Wikileaks Admits: “We Advised Snowden” to Flee to Russia

The “no choice” narrative falls apart
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The official line from the Greenwald gang for some time has been that Edward Snowden was on his way to South America when the evil United States revoked his passport for no reason whatsoever except maybe those stolen top secret documents, and forced him to get stuck in Russia. In other words, Snowden didn’t choose Russia; it’s all Obama’s fault he ended up there.

But today, the official account of Wikileaks blew this story up, admitting openly that they “advised” Snowden to flee to Russia. And also, they’d like you to give them some money.

As time goes on, it’s obviously getting more difficult for these people to keep their various conflicting stories straight.

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212 comments
1 Kragar  May 1, 2014 10:31:18am

And now, we cut live to the Wikileak offices…

Youtube Video

2 Bulworth  May 1, 2014 10:31:20am

Well, Russia is most Freedom compared to America and no NSA!!!

3 Bulworth  May 1, 2014 10:32:17am

donate

4 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 10:34:31am

HURR HURR DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT WIKI SAYS!!!! THERE JUST JEALOUS THAT GLENN IS TEH MOAR BETTER JOURNALIST THEN THEM!!!!!

5 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 1, 2014 10:35:13am

This whole thread is going to be in Dudebro font, isn’t it? :)

6 b.d.  May 1, 2014 10:37:02am

DIDN’T YOU SEE THAT TOM HANKS MOVIE WHERE THE GUY GOT STUCK IN AN AIRPORT!?!?!? IT WAS JUST LIKE THAT AND EVEN PUTIN CAN’T GET ANYONE PAST THOSE AIRPORT GATE CLERKS WITHOUT THE PROPER PAPERWORK!

7 b.d.  May 1, 2014 10:37:27am

re: #5 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This whole thread is going to be in Dudebro font, isn’t it? :)

YES

8 b.d.  May 1, 2014 10:39:21am

EVERYONE GOES TO SOUTH AMERICA VIA HONG KONG AND MOSCOW!

9 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 1, 2014 10:40:00am

re: #7 b.d.

Just checkin’

10 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 10:40:32am

It’s always strange how little embarrassment Glenn Greenwald has about his abject subservience to Russia.

11 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 10:40:48am

re: #5 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Da!

12 b.d.  May 1, 2014 10:42:42am

I HOPE THE INTERCEPT ADDRESSES THIS IN THEIR NEXT MONTH’S POSTING

13 Testy Toad T  May 1, 2014 10:45:46am

That word, “safe”. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

14 Lidane  May 1, 2014 10:49:22am

I love how the same idiot dudebros who babble incoherently about ZOMG DRONEZ also call Russia a safer, freer country than the United States.

Really? WTF.

15 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 10:50:08am

re: #14 Lidane

I love how the same idiot dudebros who babble incoherently about ZOMG DRONEZ also call Russia a safer, freer country than the United States.

Really? WTF.

BECUZ TEH U.S. IS TEH MOAST EVIL!!!!!11!!!!

16 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 10:52:05am

Сноуден герой

Spoiler

Dudebros think Snowden’s a hero

17 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 10:53:34am

HURR HURR!!!!!! TCOT HEARTS SNOWDEN MOAR THEN OBAMA!!!!!!!

18 Charles Johnson  May 1, 2014 10:57:44am
19 b.d.  May 1, 2014 10:59:41am

GERMANY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE US’ DROOLING LAPDOGS

20 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 10:59:55am

PUTIN PROTECTS RUSSIAN INTERNET FROM NOT DOUBLEPLUSSGOOD SITES. HERE HERE! MOAR FREEDUM!

vnews.com

21 Kragar  May 1, 2014 11:00:28am
22 ObserverArt  May 1, 2014 11:00:53am
As time goes on, it’s obviously getting more difficult for these people to keep their various conflicting stories straight.

Pretty tough getting rats, weasels and poisonous snakes to get on the same page.

23 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:02:07am

re: #21 Kragar

Damn! That means $25 cups of coffee, and a home improvement loan just to buy a burger.

That’s it. No one will have a job in Seattle tomorrow.

24 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 11:02:56am

Happy May Day!
Threats to Seattle police discovered ahead of May Day

Mayor Ed Murray’s office say the posters, discovered on Capitol Hill through the Central District, read, “The only good cop is a dead cop.”

Another poster found on Capitol Hill reads, “No new jail. No old jail. Fire to the prisons. (expletive) the police.” The bottom of the poster listed the website for Puget Sound Anarchists.

The protests have turned violent the past couple of years, with anarchists and other groups infiltrating the scheduled peaceful marches. They have led to several arrests and vandalism of businesses. Someone spray painted the words “Smash this” and “May Day” on windows at the Bario restaurant on Capitol Hill.

25 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:03:43am

THE NSA MUST HAVE TAKEN OVER WIKILEAK’S TWITTER ACCOUNT

26 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:03:48am

re: #21 Kragar

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NOW A BURGER IN SEATTLE IS GONNA COST $30!!!!!

27 Kragar  May 1, 2014 11:04:36am

The idea that workers will buy things if given more money is just socialist bullshit.
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28 ericblair  May 1, 2014 11:04:41am

re: #19 b.d.

GERMANY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE US’ DROOLING LAPDOGS

Every country on the planet is either a lapdog, victim, or heroic rebel against American fascism, apparently. No other country has its own interests. I get the impression that a lot of Greenwald fans like Putin because he’s Stickin It To The Man.

29 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:05:18am
WikiLeaks Just Blew A Big Hole In The Snowden Narrative

Read more: businessinsider.com

30 dog philosopher  May 1, 2014 11:07:41am

re: #24 Killgore Trout

with anarchists

all 19 of them, i’m sure

31 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 11:08:17am

re: #21 Kragar

The deal including restaurant workers is huge. Tipped workers get shafted under the minimum wage, and the deal appears to eliminate the tipped worker’s base pay that’s a fraction of the minimum wage.

It might also finally kill the whole notion of tips too (though restaurants may institute service fees to cover the higher minimum wage over time).

32 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:08:20am

IT’S ALL OVER NOW FOR OBAMA BUT THE FROGMARCHING!! UNIVERSE SHATTERING NEWS COMING ANY DAY NOW!!!!!!!

Youtube Video

33 jaunte  May 1, 2014 11:11:27am

twitter.com

34 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 11:11:43am

re: #30 dog philosopher

all 19 of them, i’m sure

Depends on how many show up. They’ve done quite a bit of damage in years past.

35 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:11:56am

HURR HURR!!!!! NO JRRBS IN SEATTLE1!!!!! 100% UNEMPLOYMENT THEIR!!!!!! CONFIRMED. FACT1!!!!

36 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:13:33am

IF I EVER HAVE TO GO TO THAT LIBTARD HELL THAT IS SEATTLE I’M GOING TO BRING MY OWN SANDWICHES AND MAKE SURE NOT TO BUY ANYTHING WHILE THERE!

37 klys  May 1, 2014 11:14:41am

Strangely enough, I have managed to survive quite a while at this point without being panicked about anarchists.

I think I will continue to do so.

Unless, of course, you want to talk about the anarchists masquerading as the Republican party. I do worry some about those, since they have actually gotten themselves into a position of real power.

38 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 1, 2014 11:14:42am

re: #35 Pie-onist Overlord

They need to just retire the award for Dumbest Man on The Internet, because Hoft has earned the lifetime achievement award with his continuous DERP.

39 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:16:20am

re: #36 b.d.

The commissars will be blocking all entrances to the city and confiscating all foodstuffs before you’ll be allowed to enter. It will be worse than trying to sneak them into a theater.

40 RealityBasedSteve  May 1, 2014 11:18:29am

re: #39 Skip Intro

The commissars will be blocking all entrances to the city and confiscating all foodstuffs before you’ll be allowed to enter. It will be worse than trying to sneak them into a theater.

And they will make you go the Creeping Sharia Subways. /fact

RBS

41 Jayleia  May 1, 2014 11:18:36am

re: #32 Skip Intro

I’m listening to this now…I hate you Skip. I couldn’t headdesk on my desk hard enough…had to set up a wrestling ring and a folding table outside the ring and do a head-table off the top rope to get close to dealing with the derp.

42 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:20:18am

Wingnut Minimum Wage Hell:

Where every sandwich costs $30 except for the Halal menu at Subway.

43 Amory Blaine  May 1, 2014 11:20:51am

Interview of Mary Burke running for governor of Wisconsin.

Democratic Candidate for Governor Mary Burke Makes Her Case

Shepherd: How did you become the Democratic Party’s self-selected candidate? What kind of backroom deals or promises did you have to make to the party bosses?

Burke: People were encouraging me to run, but I made sure that I did my homework before deciding to run. Whether it was having a poll done or talking to people across the state and understanding whether they would be supporting me and that people would be excited about my candidacy. Those were the things that came into play before I jumped in and did this. It didn’t have anything to do with asking for anything or promising anything. It was about feeling that I could win.

The only promises I make are with the people of Wisconsin. It is about being the best governor I can be and putting the interests of the people of Wisconsin first. That’s how I’m running my campaign. That’s the kind of governor I’m going to be.

Of course every answer was a nothingburger but I like Lisa Kaisers line of questioning. Though her lack of follow through is disappointing.

44 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:21:09am

re: #39 Skip Intro

The commissars will be blocking all entrances to the city and confiscating all foodstuffs before you’ll be allowed to enter. It will be worse than trying to sneak them into a theater.

they’ll probably make you pay for everything in bitcoin!

45 jaunte  May 1, 2014 11:21:10am

Keeping up with the latest trends in disenfranchisement theory:

On today’s episode of “WallBuilders Live,” David Barton explained that women were not given the right to vote when the Constitution was written because the Founding Fathers were trying to protect the institution of the family by giving every “family” a right to vote through the male head of the household.

46 Eventual Carrion  May 1, 2014 11:23:17am

re: #35 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! NO JRRBS IN SEATTLE1!!!!! 100% UNEMPLOYMENT THEIR!!!!!! CONFIRMED. FACT1!!!!

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March 2014 unemployment for Seattle: 5.7%
Nationwide: 6.7%
March 2014 unemployment for St. Louis (where I believe Jim lives: 7.4%

47 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:28:13am

re: #46 Eventual Carrion

March 2014 unemployment for Seattle: 5.7%
Nationwide: 6.7%
March 2014 unemployment for St. Louis (where I believe Jim lives: 7.4%

And where did those so-called “statistics” come from? The GOVERNMENT!!

DimJim isn’t falling for that one! He’ll wait for Fox News to make up the real ones.

48 Eventual Carrion  May 1, 2014 11:30:23am

re: #47 Skip Intro

And where did those so-called “statistics” come from? The GOVERNMENT!!

DimJim isn’t falling for that one! He’ll wait for Fox News to make up the real ones.

uNsKeWeD!

49 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:32:02am

re: #47 Skip Intro

And where did those so-called “statistics” come from? The GOVERNMENT!!

DimJim isn’t falling for that one! He’ll wait for Fox News to make up the real ones.

HURR HURR!!!!! EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN U RAISE MINIMUM WAGE PRICES GO UP & JRRB CREEATERS FIRES ALL TEH WORKERS!!!! CONFIRMED!!!!! FACT!!!!! ECON 101 LIBTARDS!!!!!!!

50 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:33:01am

HURR HURR!!!!!!!

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 11:33:47am

heh…

52 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:34:33am

re: #46 Eventual Carrion

March 2014 unemployment for Seattle: 5.7%
Nationwide: 6.7%
March 2014 unemployment for St. Louis (where I believe Jim lives: 7.4%

PEOPLE WORKING LESS THAN 50 HOURS A WEEK IN ST. LOUIS ARE TOO PROUD TO CALL THEMSELVES EMPLOYED UNLIKE THOSE MOOCHING, HIPSTER DOUCHEBAGS IN SEATTLE

53 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 11:36:02am

Ah, Julian.
The only bigger prick than GG.

54 Kragar  May 1, 2014 11:37:02am

re: #50 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!!!

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55 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:38:41am

And maybe some fast food joints will fire a bunch of workers and double their prices, then go out of business as competitors offer the same or better product for less.

FREE MARKET BABY.

56 jaunte  May 1, 2014 11:39:55am

re: #54 Kragar

Aug 12, 2013: When a constituent asked Rep. Markwayne Mullin for his take on the push to raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour at an Afton, Oklahoma town hall meeting last Thursday, Mullin responded with a question of his own: “You guys wanna pay $20 for a hamburger at McDonald’s?”
thinkprogress.org

They keep recycling these old wheezes.

57 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:41:44am

re: #48 Eventual Carrion

uNsKeWeD!

uNsKeWeD statistics shows that unemployment in pure Red States is -2% because even fetuses have paying jobs, while in pure Blue States it’s over 150%.

True Fact. Watch the Twitters pick it up soon.

58 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:43:01am

Business Insider piece picked up by The Houston Chronicle

WikiLeaks Just Blew A Big Hole In The Snowden Narrative

Michael Kelley, provided by Business Insider

chron.com

59 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:43:16am

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

What are his unskewed ratings? Those are the ones Limbaugh uses to claim 20 million listeners.

60 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 11:43:29am

Oh and the makers of the automatic burger machine, remember them? Still haven’t rolled out their product.

Probably because it would not be profitable for them unless they charged $50 a burger, or something like that.

61 jaunte  May 1, 2014 11:44:58am
62 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:45:39am

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

WND Headline soon.

Seattle Communists hate hamburgers, try to put cattle ranchers out of business.

63 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 11:47:29am

re: #62 Skip Intro

WND Headline soon.

Seattle Communists hate hamburgers, try to put cattle ranchers out of business.

Followed by a RWNJ drive to rename grilled ground beef the “Bundyburger”?
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64 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 11:48:22am

re: #35 Pie-onist Overlord

The minimum wage is being phased in over 5 years, so it’s not going to automagically turn $15 when the law is effective.

That the businesses and industry got behind this suggests that the opposition is wildly overblown, and that the effect on businesses wont be nearly as dire as they’ve been saying.

Fast food prices will probably go up - in the 10-15% range (probably at the high end given the $15 minimum wage, versus the $10.10 rate that many of the figures had based their estimates on.

That would mean that the average person spending $1,200 a year on fast food will now spend $120-180 more. But for the person working at that fast food restaurant, they’ll go from $9.32 to $15 eventually.

Put another way, the worker will see their wages go from around poverty wages, to $31,000+ a year. That’s a huge boost, and one that would potentially reduce reliance on federal and state safety net programs.

Businesses would see a reduction in the ability to shift tax/benefits burdens on to taxpayers by paying their employees less-than-subsistence wages.

65 RealityBasedSteve  May 1, 2014 11:48:23am

re: #62 Skip Intro

WND Headline soon.

Seattle Communists hate hamburgers, try to put cattle ranchers out of business.

And the eternal ad… Cattle Ranchers Hate This One Weird Trick!

66 A Mom Anon  May 1, 2014 11:49:46am

For a modest fee I will HAPPILY help anyone who thinks Russia is a bastion of freedom and democracy to pack their stuff, tote it to the proper facility and ship it to Moscow for them. I’m a very organized person and really good at packing fragile and valuable items so they arrive safely.

Call me at 1-800-DONTTELLMEYOUAREAPATRIOTYOUASSHOLE for shipping rates and my hourly fees.

67 Lidane  May 1, 2014 11:49:48am

re: #62 Skip Intro

WND Headline soon.

Seattle Communists hate hamburgers, try to put cattle ranchers out of business.

Or worse:

Seattle Commies Overpay Fast Food Workers; BLM Seizing Cattle to Lower Beef Prices

68 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 11:49:58am

re: #47 Skip Intro

The right wing is busy spinning the ACA enrollment figures too. They’re busy trying to claim that the number who have actually paid for policies is far less than the number that have signed up. They’ll go through great lengths to make the claim, except that the insurers are finding that the numbers paying the premiums are in line with expectations and that they’re finding that like with most things that require advance payments, people are waiting until the last moment to pay.

69 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:51:12am

re: #67 Lidane

Or worse:

Seattle Commies Overpay Fast Food Workers; BLM Seizing Cattle to Lower Beef Prices

RAISE CATTLE, NOT WAGES!

70 RealityBasedSteve  May 1, 2014 11:51:18am

re: #64 lawhawk

The minimum wage is being phased in over 5 years, so it’s not going to automagically turn $15 when the law is effective.

That the businesses and industry got behind this suggests that the opposition is wildly overblown, and that the effect on businesses wont be nearly as dire as they’ve been saying.

Fast food prices will probably go up - in the 10-15% range (probably at the high end given the $15 minimum wage, versus the $10.10 rate that many of the figures had based their estimates on.

That would mean that the average person spending $1,200 a year on fast food will now spend $120-180 more. But for the person working at that fast food restaurant, they’ll go from $9.32 to $15 eventually.

Put another way, the worker will see their wages go from around poverty wages, to $31,000+ a year. That’s a huge boost, and one that would potentially reduce reliance on federal and state safety net programs.

Businesses would see a reduction in the ability to shift tax/benefits burdens on to taxpayers by paying their employees less-than-subsistence wages.

I’ve looked, but haven’t been able to find anywhere, what percentage of costs at the typical fast food restaurant is labor expense, as opposed to the rest of the costs.

RBS

71 darthstar  May 1, 2014 11:51:34am
72 darthstar  May 1, 2014 11:53:25am

Filling in managing our devops group while the boss is on vacation…loving his label-less keyboard. My new keyboard for the next three weeks.

73 Skip Intro  May 1, 2014 11:53:59am

re: #70 RealityBasedSteve

This is just a gut feeling, but I think the franchise fees and the requirement to only buy from the franchisor have a bigger impact on the bottom line than labor costs.

74 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 11:56:36am

re: #70 RealityBasedSteve

The labor costs are typically figured at about 30% of gross sales.

yourbusiness.azcentral.com

According to the 2010 Restaurant Industry Operations Report compiled by the National Restaurant Association, restaurants whose average ticket runs $15 and under or $25 and over typically spend 33.7 percent of their gross sales revenue on labor. Restaurants whose average ticket totals between $15 and $25 typically spend 33.2 percent of gross sales on labor expenses. These numbers are close enough to indicate that labor costs are relatively consistent throughout the restaurant industry, regardless of the level of service that a establishment provides.

Productivity Goals

According to Monica Parpal of Foodservice Warehouse, most restauranteurs aim to spend about 20 percent of their revenue on payroll costs. This figure is considerably lower than the 33 percent that the National Restaurant Association documented. This discrepancy may be due to the fact that Parpal’s figure represents a target amount while the Restaurant Association’s numbers represent actual restaurant activity. Restaurants can lower their labor costs and achieve numbers closer to the 20 percent goal by cross training employees and planning employee schedules carefully to correspond with busy times.

75 b.d.  May 1, 2014 11:56:57am

It sure does, except when it doesn’t

Freakin Düdebros.

76 b_sharp  May 1, 2014 11:57:43am

re: #72 darthstar

Filling in managing our devops group while the boss is on vacation…loving his label-less keyboard. My new keyboard for the next three weeks.

Uh, keyboards can be exchanged between computers.

77 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 11:58:06am

re: #69 b.d.

RAISE CATTLE, NOT WAGES!

Trying to fix the skew in the cattle to bullshit ratio in the US?
/

78 klys  May 1, 2014 11:58:40am

re: #76 b_sharp

Uh, keyboards can be exchanged between computers.

I think the boss might notice though.

79 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 11:58:56am

re: #75 b.d.

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Freakin Düdebros.

My translation was fake but accurate!11!1ty

80 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 11:59:15am

re: #72 darthstar

Filling in managing our devops group while the boss is on vacation…loving his label-less keyboard. My new keyboard for the next three weeks.

Now is your chance to experiment with Dvorak layout without being confused by wrong labels!

81 Lidane  May 1, 2014 11:59:20am

Wheee!

82 kirkspencer  May 1, 2014 11:59:31am

re: #72 darthstar

Filling in managing our devops group while the boss is on vacation…loving his label-less keyboard. My new keyboard for the next three weeks.

Hah, a touch typist.

Be glad he’s not a dvorak touch typist. //

83 kirkspencer  May 1, 2014 12:00:26pm

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

16 seconds…

84 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:00:55pm

A Chinook just flew over my farm. Dogs were really excited about it.
You can hear them coming long before you see them. Always very cool.

85 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:01:37pm

re: #53 Varek Raith

Ah, Julian.
The only bigger prick than GG.

Everyone knows Greensnow is working hard to change that.

86 Kragar  May 1, 2014 12:02:08pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

My translation was fake but accurate!11!1ty

87 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:03:33pm

I’ve posted this before about fast food and minimum wage:

The Magical World Where McDonald’s Pays $15 an Hour? It’s Australia

The article has a chart that shows wages vs prices.

88 GeneJockey  May 1, 2014 12:07:10pm

Just in case folks missed it in last nights thread, the goats have arrived, and already made short work of the mint, the apple tree, the grape vine, and the wisteria.

Rango, the male Greyhound, managed to get out of the house and try to make friends, but they were having none of it. I think the Greyhound idea of play is very different from the Goat’s idea.

This morning I leashed him up and we went outside to see the goats, but they were cautious, and after a pee and a dump (his, not mine), I was leading him back into the house when he brushed up against the electric fence and WOW, was he SURPRISED! Took a good half hour for him to forgive me.

89 Eventual Carrion  May 1, 2014 12:07:46pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Chinook just flew over my farm. Dogs were really excited about it.
You can hear them coming long before you see them. Always very cool.

Thunder over the Valley will be taking place in my area soon.

90 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 12:08:33pm

re: #88 GeneJockey

Just in case folks missed it in last nights thread, the goats have arrived, and already made short work of the mint, the apple tree, the grape vine, and the wisteria.

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Rango, the male Greyhound, managed to get out of the house and try to make friends, but they were having none of it. I think the Greyhound idea of play is very different from the Goat’s idea.

This morning I leashed him up and we went outside to see the goats, but they were cautious, and after a pee and a dump (his, not mine), I was leading him back into the house when he brushed up against the electric fence and WOW, was he SURPRISED! Took a good half hour for him to forgive me.

At least he didn’t pee on it. (The electric fence that is.)

91 jaunte  May 1, 2014 12:08:50pm

re: #86 Kragar

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Wortvergnügen

92 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 12:09:03pm

re: #88 GeneJockey

yummmm,,, goat stew!!!

93 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:10:24pm

re: #90 Feline Fearless Leader

At least he didn’t pee on it. (The electric fence that is.)

Youtube Video

94 Testy Toad T  May 1, 2014 12:11:04pm

I care more about what the NSA does and doesn’t do than about what the name does or doesn’t sort of translate to and how that compares to the names of other historical organizations, but I suppose I’m a pretty terrible dudebro.

95 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:11:05pm

re: #89 Eventual Carrion

Thunder over the Valley will be taking place in my area soon.

During Hurricane Sandy, the Chinook flights were almost a daily event. One time there were six of them flying in line. Megacoolness.

96 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:12:46pm
97 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:13:51pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s going to need a particle accelerator instead of a whip.
That’s all that’s left of that poor horse.

98 GeneJockey  May 1, 2014 12:15:42pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

He’s going to need a particle accelerator instead of a whip.
That’s all that’s left of that poor horse.

About like that horse the White Walker was riding in last Sunday’s GoT, buw without the glowing blue eyes, and no longer ambulatory.

99 Eventual Carrion  May 1, 2014 12:16:03pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

During Hurricane Sandy, the Chinook flights were almost a daily event. One time there were six of them flying in line. Megacoolness.

Pretty much daily I see at least one, some times 2 or 3 in formation, cargo (C-130’s I think) on their daily check runs. They fly low and slow over the valley reservoir.

100 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:16:31pm

Kid in training for GG’s job.

Image: TerrificDaringBernesemountaindog.gif

101 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:17:22pm

re: #99 Eventual Carrion

Pretty much daily I see at least one, some times 2 or 3 in formation, cargo (C-130’s I think) on their daily check runs. They fly low and slow over the valley reservoir.

Saw some B-52s when they were heading to Dulles for an event way back in high school.

102 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:18:55pm

So at least one R admits Benghazi! is all about politics.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, on Senate floor discussing Benghazi: ‘If this had been the Bush administration, it’d be front page news everywhere’ - @kasie
see original on twitter.com

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:19:07pm

re: #99 Eventual Carrion

Pretty much daily I see at least one, some times 2 or 3 in formation, cargo (C-130’s I think) on their daily check runs. They fly low and slow over the valley reservoir.

I don’t see them very often, usually just when there’s a natural disaster or major forest fire.

104 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:20:30pm

Gee, McCain, maybe you should have gotten Palin up there and plastered this on her ass—just to remind us what you really are.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., Lindsey Graham, R-SC, place an ‘enormous’ printout of White House adviser Ben Rhodes’ email related to Benghazi onto an easel on the Senate Floor - @kasie
see original on twitter.com

105 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:21:33pm

These clowns known as Republicans are pathetic…

Rep. Howard ‘Buck’ McKeon, R-Calif., challenges Benghazi testimony of retired Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell - @AP
read more on bigstory.ap.org

106 Decatur Deb  May 1, 2014 12:25:01pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

During Hurricane Sandy, the Chinook flights were almost a daily event. One time there were six of them flying in line. Megacoolness.

So are Superstallions when 2 of them are being refueled by a KC130, each slingloading 2 Humvees.

Image: OFRw2b6.jpg

Our office had a similar photo of a tanker with fuel drogues out to 4 Chinooks, each carrying 105 howitzer.

107 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 12:25:16pm

re: #102 Justanotherhuman

So at least one R admits Benghazi! is all about politics.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, on Senate floor discussing Benghazi: ‘If this had been the Bush administration, it’d be front page news everywhere’ - @kasie
see original on twitter.com

There they go again trying to push Benghazi as if it’s the only time an embassy or consulate has been attacked. Graham’s pathetic. He honestly deserves to get primaried because he’s a spineless hack. Better a wingnut who actually knows what he is than some wuss who cares only about trying to look as anti-Obama as possible for the base.

108 Pie-onist Overlord  May 1, 2014 12:26:33pm
109 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:26:46pm

re: #102 Justanotherhuman

So at least one R admits Benghazi! is all about politics.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, on Senate floor discussing Benghazi: ‘If this had been the Bush administration, it’d be front page news everywhere’ - @kasie
see original on twitter.com

Ok Lindsey, I can play too.
thedailybanter.com

110 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 12:26:46pm

re: #99 Eventual Carrion

Pretty much daily I see at least one, some times 2 or 3 in formation, cargo (C-130’s I think) on their daily check runs. They fly low and slow over the valley reservoir.

I see a Chinook now and then around Philly. See USMC Cobras playing around more often than that - about every other week or so. They appear to have some exercise where they buzz over Center City to the Art Museum, swing around, and go back out to the Delaware River.

111 EdDantes  May 1, 2014 12:26:51pm

re: #105 Justanotherhuman

Your link went to an entire website. Do you have a linkto the McKeon story?

112 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 12:28:46pm

re: #109 Varek Raith

Ok Lindsey, I can play too.
thedailybanter.com

Seriously, if you only listened to hacks like Lindsay and McCain, you’d think that nothing like this ever happened in the Bush years except it totally did. Benghazi was tragic to be certain and we do need to prevent future tragedies like it from happening but the witch hunt from it is a pathetic game.

113 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:29:14pm

re: #111 EdDantes

Your link went to an entire website. Do you have a linkto the McKeon story?

Read more: bigstory.ap.org

114 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 12:30:11pm

re: #113 Justanotherhuman

Read more: bigstory.ap.org

Reminiscent of Ryan calling the Pentagon officials who thought a defense budget cut was necessary liars.

115 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:30:49pm

More total bullshit.

House Speaker John Boehner statement on newly released documents related to Benghazi: ‘If the White House won’t explain it, Secretary of State John Kerry should come to the Capitol to explain why he defied an official congressional subpoena’ - @frankthorpNBC
see original on twitter.com

116 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:30:52pm

Fox News’ Ed Henry Evades Jay Carney’s Question About Benghazi Email

“Right,” Carney said, “and I would refer you to the C.I.A.-produced talking points on that, that referred, at the time, to currently available information suggesting that there were protests outside the facility in Benghazi inspired by demonstrations outside of Cairo.”

Then, he asked Henry “What inspired those demonstrations outside our embassy in Cairo? Do you even remember?”

Henry hesitated. “There was… Cairo, I don’t remember specifically, there was a.. um..”

“Does anyone remember?” Carney asked the assembled press. “Can we get a little call-and-response?”

Boom.

117 Charles Johnson  May 1, 2014 12:31:06pm

Benghazi Testimony Derails Fox’s “Incredibly Damning” Attack on Obama

During the question and answer portion of the testimony, Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA) asked Lovell specifically about claims that the military had resources that they did not utilize. Lovell explained that when he said “we should have tried,” he did not mean that the response was insufficient and that it is a “fact” that there was nothing more the military could have done.

Oops. Another attack fizzles.

118 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 12:32:34pm

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

Source of the tweeted photo? Might be this one, which I’d consider unverified.

democraticunderground.com

119 EdDantes  May 1, 2014 12:33:26pm

re: #113 Justanotherhuman

Read more: bigstory.ap.org

Thank you. I will look for McKeon’s statement.

120 lawhawk  May 1, 2014 12:39:00pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

The President specifically urged the DoD to create a fast-response strike team to address the problems raised by the Benghazi attack. It was formed in April 2013 as a response to Benghazi, and it is now based in Spain, and is primarily composed of Marines.

The military simply didn’t have resources available to respond to an attack at the consulate in Benghazi, and the nearest help was hours away. Despite dozens of prior attacks on US diplomatic facilities around the world, the US never had that capability until after the President responded less than a year after Benghazi.

121 darthstar  May 1, 2014 12:40:32pm

How to draw an owl.

122 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 12:43:27pm

re: #119 EdDantes

Thank you. I will look for McKeon’s statement.

“Lovell did not serve in a capacity that gave him reliable insight into operational options available to commanders during the attack, nor did he offer specific courses of action not taken,” McKeon said.

“The chairman said his committee had interviewed more than a dozen witnesses in the operational chain of command and reviewed thousands of pages of transcripts, emails and other documents.

“We have no evidence that Department of State officials delayed the decision to deploy what few resources the Defense Department had available to respond,” McKeon said. “Lovell did not further the investigation or reveal anything new, he was another painful reminder of the agony our military felt that night: wanting to respond but unable to do so.”

“The unusual rebuke pitted McKeon, who has said he was satisfied that the military did all it could on Sept. 11, 2012, against fellow Republican and Californian Rep. Darrell Issa, who has doggedly pursued the question of whether the military was told to “stand down” on the night of the attacks.”

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:43:35pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

So are Superstallions when 2 of them are being refueled by a KC130, each slingloading 2 Humvees.

Image: OFRw2b6.jpg

Our office had a similar photo of a tanker with fuel drogues out to 4 Chinooks, each carrying 105 howitzer.

great photo!

Most of the helicopters we see around here are AirCare/Medivacs. But during growing season, DEA is a constant presence. They’ll spend a week scouting my farm in early summer and then later in the season, right before harvest. About 10 years ago, they found a huge operation up in my woods, not very far from my house. It was interesting watching them rappel from the chopper, and then send bale after bale of marijuana back up to the helicopter (which was much larger than the chopper they use for spotting).

This news article is a couple of years old, but I still like it, and not just because it features a female pilot:
DEA Pilot’s Eyes Are In The Skies For Drug Cases

As a military pilot, criminal justice graduate student Angela Warner came under enemy fire when evacuating wounded soldiers in Iraq. As the first female helicopter pilot and supervisory agent for the Drug Enforcement Administration’s aviation division, the door once came off her helicopter while doing surveillance of marijuana fields in Kentucky.
A 25-year veteran of the U.S. Army, Warner, who is based out of Houston, supervises special agent/pilots who patrol the skies to collect evidence in narcotics cases in South Texas, New Mexico, Mexico and Central America.

124 Decatur Deb  May 1, 2014 12:43:48pm

re: #118 lawhawk

Source of the tweeted photo? Might be this one, which I’d consider unverified.

democraticunderground.com

If you want to risk your sanity for an hour, that’s the video included in the Vanderboegh article I posted in the Bundy page. A DUer has made a synopsis in your link.

125 Lidane  May 1, 2014 12:43:58pm

re: #121 darthstar

I keep getting stuck on Step 1. :(

126 Kragar  May 1, 2014 12:45:39pm

re: #121 darthstar

127 darthstar  May 1, 2014 12:46:01pm

re: #121 darthstar

How to draw an owl.

Related

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:47:12pm

re: #126 Kragar

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MrBWS’ favorite superhero of all time.
SPOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!

129 A Mom Anon  May 1, 2014 12:48:50pm

re: #121 darthstar

…and once again I scared the hell out of the animals from laughing too loud. (((snort)))

130 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:49:17pm

Happy tree.

131 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 12:50:28pm

Just noticed something.
Charles, wikileaks is misspelled in the title.

132 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:52:31pm

re: #131 Varek Raith

Just noticed something.
Charles, wikileaks is misspelled in the title.

Yep. It should have been spelled “witleaks”.

133 darthstar  May 1, 2014 12:54:45pm

#SanJose, CA. #1010 #MinimumWage

134 Lidane  May 1, 2014 12:54:49pm

And this is why I laugh when people complain about traffic here in Austin:

135 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:56:08pm

teehee

136 darthstar  May 1, 2014 12:56:42pm
137 Shiplord Kirel  May 1, 2014 12:56:58pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

If you want to risk your sanity for an hour, that’s the video included in the Vanderboegh article I posted in the Bundy page. A DUer has made a synopsis in your link.

The conflict between the Oafkeepers and the other kooks apparently started when a rumor made the rounds that federalist cossacks were about to launch a drone strike on the ranch. The second group fled to motels in the nearby town. This led to the Oafs calling them deserters and cowards and even demanding that they be shot if they tried to slink back.

They obviously don’t know that the only reason the feds haven’t launched a B-52 strike is the large number of federal undercover agents and false flaggers among the militia volunteers, especially the non-Oathkeepers contingent.
(Just trying to help the invincible true patriots root out the many traitors in their ranks. What action they take is up to them)

138 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 12:57:08pm

re: #136 darthstar

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snap!

140 kirkspencer  May 1, 2014 12:59:18pm

re: #134 Lidane

One of the things I really wish(ed) for here in Houston was for them to push the rail line a little further, with the endpoints outside the beltway. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a major advantage with the push outside the inner loop, but pushing each of the lines outside the beltway to various park-n-rides would have had phenomenal effects on traffic.

That said it would have been even more expensive than it was - and it already faced lots of opposition.

141 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:01:24pm
142 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 1:05:13pm

re: #141 Kragar

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Individual liberties! (Unless they’re fucking in a way we don’t like)

143 EdDantes  May 1, 2014 1:07:04pm

re: #133 darthstar

Considering the cost of living in San Jose,10.00 per hour is about the minimum that anyone could work for. Even one bedroom apartments are in the 900 dollar per month range.

144 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:07:17pm
145 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:07:22pm

Somebody was lamenting the lack of Guy Fawkes this morning


Nothing celebrates worker’s rights better that capitalists selling masks of a Catholic terrorist made my Chinese slave labor to wealthy leftists in NYC.
146 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 1:07:58pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Somebody was lamenting the lack of Guy Fawkes this morning

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Nothing celebrates worker’s rights better that capitalists selling masks of a Catholic terrorist made my Chinese slave labor to wealthy leftists in NYC.

Rubes.

147 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:08:07pm
148 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:08:31pm

Not a Tea Bagger

149 GeneJockey  May 1, 2014 1:08:58pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Somebody was lamenting the lack of Guy Fawkes this morning

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Nothing celebrates worker’s rights better that capitalists selling masks of a Catholic terrorist made my Chinese slave labor to wealthy leftists in NYC.

So that’s not from “The 500 Masks Of Bartholomew Cubbins”?

150 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 1:09:15pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Not a Tea Bagger

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Ali Baba Obama?

151 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:09:25pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

Rubes.

If I was better with sentence structure I could have worked in something about the toxic chemicals used to make those things.

152 RealityBasedSteve  May 1, 2014 1:09:49pm

re: #147 Kragar

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Thor? you think you’re Thor????

RBS

153 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 1:10:03pm

Guy Fawkes mask with a Che shirt.
Boom.

154 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 1:10:04pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

Not a Tea Bagger

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So you’re arguing that Tea Partiers don’t have a monopoly on stupid and irrational anti-Obama hatred? Well no shit.

155 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:10:10pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Somebody was lamenting the lack of Guy Fawkes this morning

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Nothing celebrates worker’s rights better that capitalists selling masks of a Catholic terrorist made my Chinese slave labor to wealthy leftists in NYC.

Twas moi!

156 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:10:17pm

re: #150 Varek Raith

Ali Baba Obama?

It does have a nice ring to it.

157 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 1:10:46pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

So you’re arguing that Tea Partiers don’t have a monopoly on stupid and irrational anti-Obama hatred? Well no shit.

Probably a Fire Bagger.

158 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:11:34pm

re: #155 sattv4u2

Twas moi!

I guess you had to wait for the American leftists to roll out of bed. Plenty of Guy Fawkes for the rest of the day.

159 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 1:11:43pm

re: #157 Varek Raith

Probably a Fire Bagger.

Yeah that would be my guess too. Shrug.

160 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 1:11:48pm

re: #156 Killgore Trout

It does have a nice ring to it.

A tad bit more clever than the usual dreck.
Hurr durr, Obama is a thief!

161 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:11:49pm

re: #157 Varek Raith

Probably a Fire Bagger.

or a Paulian

162 GeneJockey  May 1, 2014 1:12:55pm

re: #151 Killgore Trout

If I was better with sentence structure I could have worked in something about the toxic chemicals used to make those things.

Spelling, too.
//

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 1:13:25pm
164 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 1:13:43pm

re: #156 Killgore Trout

It does have a nice ring to it.

What party do the 40 thieves belong to then?
///

165 FemNaziBitch  May 1, 2014 1:13:49pm

166 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 1:13:52pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quick destroy their union.//

167 Varek Raith  May 1, 2014 1:14:38pm

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

What party do the 40 thieves belong to then?
///

ALL PARTIES ARE TEH SAME!11!1ty

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 1:16:11pm
169 dog philosopher  May 1, 2014 1:16:29pm

re: #60 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh and the makers of the automatic burger machine, remember them? Still haven’t rolled out their product.

Probably because it would not be profitable for them unless they charged $50 a burger, or something like that.

i look forward to the time when self-admiring Job Creators can make a profit without any need for humans being involved in the business at all, either as the dreaded employees or as annoying customers

Attention Robots!

Kauft Nicht Bei Humans!

170 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:17:00pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I fail to see how a Smart Gun coded to its owner is a threat to 2nd Amendment Rights.

171 HappyWarrior  May 1, 2014 1:18:14pm

re: #170 Kragar

I fail to see how a Smart Gun coded to its owner is a threat to 2nd Amendment Rights.

The NRA thinks studies on gun safety are a threat to the 2nd amendment so this really isn’t a stretch.

172 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:19:26pm

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

What party do the 40 thieves belong to then?
///

20/20,,,, even split

173 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:20:13pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

The NRA thinks studies on gun safety are a threat to the 2nd amendment so this really isn’t a stretch.

Because when you’re confident in your beliefs, its only right to obstruct any attempt to confirm them.

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 1:20:56pm

re: #170 Kragar

I fail to see how a Smart Gun coded to its owner is a threat to 2nd Amendment Rights.

IIRC, the NRA believes that because of some laws in some places that say when the technology becomes available it will be mandatory for all guns.
How suppressing potential sales invalidates the development of technology is a puzzlement.

175 William Barnett-Lewis  May 1, 2014 1:21:21pm

re: #170 Kragar

I fail to see how a Smart Gun coded to its owner is a threat to 2nd Amendment Rights.

When they work well enough that the army uses only them, then talk to me about them. Until then, I will retain my antiques.

176 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 1:21:43pm

re: #141 Kragar

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It’s all about LGBTs, not “anal sex” at all.

177 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:25:03pm

re: #176 Justanotherhuman

It’s all about LGBTs, not “anal sex” at all.

Sex only once a year??

oh ,, wait , you typed ANAL,,,,,, I saw ANNUAL!!!!

nevahmind

178 dog philosopher  May 1, 2014 1:26:18pm

re: #175 William Barnett-Lewis

When they work well enough that the army uses only them, then talk to me about them. Until then, I will retain my antiques.

if crossbows were good enough for the norman invasion, they’re good enough for me

179 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:27:04pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

Sex only once a year??

oh ,, wait , you typed ANAL,,,,,, I saw ANNUAL!!!!

nevahmind

Honest mistake.

180 Eventual Carrion  May 1, 2014 1:27:19pm

re: #134 Lidane

And this is why I laugh when people complain about traffic here in Austin:

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Yep. I lived out on the west side almost to Hwy. 6 on Westheimer and it was a journey to get to my friends place in Channelview. I worked downtown too, another clusterfornication. Only good thing was when I would work second or third shift, commute was just fine then. But I still hate driving in Pittsburgh more.

181 jaunte  May 1, 2014 1:27:49pm

re: #134 Lidane

And this is why I laugh when people complain about traffic here in Austin:

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According to the NYC overlay, my Houston commute is equivalent to working in Manhattan and going home to Hoboken.

182 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:28:20pm

re: #175 William Barnett-Lewis

When they work well enough that the army uses only them, then talk to me about them. Until then, I will retain my antiques.

Ah, I didn’t realize they were going to force all the gun owners in America to trade in their collections for the new guns. My mistake.
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183 Jack Burton  May 1, 2014 1:28:23pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

So you’re arguing that Tea Partiers don’t have a monopoly on stupid and irrational anti-Obama hatred? Well no shit.

Moonbats still exist.

Next up: Pope Francis is Catholic. Scientists observe Ursus arctos defecating in wilderness.

184 darthstar  May 1, 2014 1:29:00pm

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Somebody was lamenting the lack of Guy Fawkes this morning

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Nothing celebrates worker’s rights better that capitalists selling masks of a Catholic terrorist made my Chinese slave labor to wealthy leftists in NYC.

Guy Fawkes day is November 5. (Remember, remember, the fifth of November)

185 darthstar  May 1, 2014 1:29:37pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

Sex only once a year??

oh ,, wait , you typed ANAL,,,,,, I saw ANNUAL!!!!

nevahmind

It’s time for your Annual sex, Satty…face north.

186 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:30:05pm

re: #185 darthstar

It’s time for your Annual sex, Satty…face north.

oliver??

187 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 1:30:48pm

re: #180 Eventual Carrion

Yep. I lived out on the west side almost to Hwy. 6 on Westheimer and it was a journey to get to my friends place in Channelview. I worked downtown too, another clusterfornication. Only good thing was when I would work second or third shift, commute was just fine then. But I still hate driving in Pittsburgh more.

Nothing like having bottleneck geography complicate the potential highway routes. And the fact that if you missed a turn trying to take the next turn and trying to double back via a few more turns often does not work.

Love Pittsburgh, but it is the land of “can’t get there from here”.

188 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2014 1:32:18pm
189 Kragar  May 1, 2014 1:33:26pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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190 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:33:48pm

re: #181 jaunte

According to the NYC overlay, my Houston commute is equivalent to working in Manhattan and going home to Hoboken.

Thats less than a quarter of my daily commute ,, one way ,,,, time and mileage wise!!

191 dog philosopher  May 1, 2014 1:33:59pm

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). April 23-27, 2014. N=approx. 500 adults nationwide.

[includes only responses from those who have said they have heard of it] “Moving on to the issue of Benghazi - what do you think it refers to?”

ObamaCare 23%
Birth Certificate 21%
Hillary Clinton’s Hairdo 19%
A Buzzing Sound Made By African Bees 19% (tie)
My Taxes Are Too High 13%
Other 3%
Fish 2%

192 darthstar  May 1, 2014 1:34:19pm

re: #186 sattv4u2

oliver??

It’ll be oliver in a few minutes.

193 William Barnett-Lewis  May 1, 2014 1:34:38pm

re: #178 dog philosopher

if crossbows were good enough for the norman invasion, they’re good enough for me

Crossbows didn’t need a battery to work in an emergency either… O_o

194 dog philosopher  May 1, 2014 1:34:50pm

re: #181 jaunte

According to the NYC overlay, my Houston commute is equivalent to working in Manhattan and going home to Hoboken.

i think the entire state of texas is equivalent to going home to hoboken

195 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:35:10pm

re: #192 darthstar

It’ll be oliver in a few minutes.

Good. At my age I can’t stay bent over that long or I won;t be able to straighten back up

196 jaunte  May 1, 2014 1:35:31pm

re: #194 dog philosopher

But it takes much longer to get there.

197 FemNaziBitch  May 1, 2014 1:35:43pm

blog.petflow.com

better:
Youtube Video

watch the whole thing

198 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 1:39:26pm

re: #194 dog philosopher

i think the entire state of texas is equivalent to going home to hoboken

I think the old quote was “Heaven, Hell or Hoboken… by Christmas.”

199 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 1:40:28pm

re: #190 sattv4u2

Thats less than a quarter of my daily commute ,, one way ,,,, time and mileage wise!!

I always said I’d never live in the suburbs, never drive more than a half hour to work. And stuck to it.

Giving up more money, no doubt, but WTF, it’s not everything.

200 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 1:42:06pm

re: #191 dog philosopher

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). April 23-27, 2014. N=approx. 500 adults nationwide.

[includes only responses from those who have said they have heard of it] “Moving on to the issue of Benghazi - what do you think it refers to?”

ObamaCare 23%
Birth Certificate 21%
Hillary Clinton’s Hairdo 19%
A Buzzing Sound Made By African Bees 19% (tie)
My Taxes Are Too High 13%
Other 3%
Fish 2%

This country is fucking doomed.

201 Feline Fearless Leader  May 1, 2014 1:43:20pm

The other famous quote being from a fictional character.
“Hoboken???? Ooooh I’m DYING Again!!!”

:)

203 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:50:37pm

Charity linked to Crawley suicide bomber investigated

A charity through which a man from West Sussex travelled to Syria where he blew himself up with a truck bomb is being investigated by the Charity Commission.

The regulator said it had opened a statutory inquiry into Children in Deen to investigate “serious concerns” about governance and financial management.

Abdul Waheed Majeed, 41, a father-of-three from Crawley, joined one of the charity’s aid convoys last year.

He went on to carry out a suicide bomb attack at a Syrian prison in February.

204 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:52:38pm

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Charity linked to Crawley suicide bomber investigated

Their website is having some trouble but it looks like they’re still accepting donations

205 Killgore Trout  May 1, 2014 1:52:59pm

childrenindeen.org

206 Lidane  May 1, 2014 1:53:50pm

re: #181 jaunte

According to the NYC overlay, my Houston commute is equivalent to working in Manhattan and going home to Hoboken.

My daily commute when I left Houston was the equivalent of driving back and forth from Brooklyn to Newark for work.

207 TedStriker  May 1, 2014 1:56:46pm

re: #72 darthstar

Filling in managing our devops group while the boss is on vacation…loving his label-less keyboard. My new keyboard for the next three weeks.

Ahhh, DasKeyboard…I’ve heard about them for years.

Freaky.

208 Lidane  May 1, 2014 1:57:05pm

re: #206 Lidane

This also explains why a friend of mine from Houston got a house in Bayonne when he first started working in Manhattan. His rent/mortgage was cheaper by a few orders of magnitude and he was already used to the drive.

209 sattv4u2  May 1, 2014 1:58:09pm

re: #199 Justanotherhuman

I always said I’d never live in the suburbs, never drive more than a half hour to work. And stuck to it.

Giving up more money, no doubt, but WTF, it’s not everything.

Lived in the city for most of the 1st 45 years of my life

Been in the country for the last 16 (the “suburbs” are between where I live and where i work

I like the elbow room

210 Justanotherhuman  May 1, 2014 2:07:26pm

re: #197 FemNaziBitch

blog.petflow.com

better:
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Video

watch the whole thing

Did you miss this 9 year old girl singing “O Mio Babbino Caro”? I know it’s a talent show and she’s being imitative of Callas, but still. Imagine what she could do with a voice coach.

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211 jamjam  May 2, 2014 5:21:29am

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I guess you had to wait for the American leftists to roll out of bed. Plenty of Guy Fawkes for the rest of the day.

I’m not an american leftist, but I am a leftist, and guess what? I work 14 hour days at least, arrive between 6 and 7am, done by 9PM or 10PM. Most of the folks I work with are younger folks between 25 and 35, and they all hold sensible (i.e. leftist) viewpoints. Which comes up because in my occupation (research scientist in chemistry), because you conservative tightwad, money-suckers (see, I can do stereotypes too) are constantly trying to cut research funding. Yeah, by the way, we’re not researching fucking rare birds of the amazon or whatever that right wing meme was, about useless research. We’re trying to cure cancer, alzheimer’s, heart disease, huntington’s and other disastrous medical ailments, and thankfully, the Government funds much of our research - so we can spend more time in the lab and less in the office writing grant applications.

Oh by the way? There are a bunch of americans who work with me, daily - some post-docs, some PhD students, most of whom will return to the US, but all of whom express leftist political viewpoints.

They work longer hours than I do.

So are they exempt from your stereotype, are they exceptions to the rule or is your stereotype just God-damned bullshit?

What is it with you? Your half-hearted sarcasm isn’t as funny or as useful as you think it is. It just makes you look bitter, sad and frankly, pitiful. I’m surprised you’re still at it. Try posting something useful, descriptive, entertaining…anything except your ‘picture with cynical, passive-aggressive comment about leftists’ routine. It is lazy and stupid. You could get a ‘bot’ to do it - hey, here’s a productive idea, you could learn how to code a bot to do it. Unless you are a bot.

That’d explain a good deal.

212 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 2, 2014 5:23:15am

re: #211 jamjam

He’s a contrarian troll doing performance art, not meant to be taken seriously.


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