The Incredibly Stupid Republican Obsession With Benghazi Ramps Up Again

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A big announcement today from House Speaker John Boehner about the Republican Party’s absolutely insane obsession with Benghazi:

What can anyone say at this point? The Republican Party needs an intervention.

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Benghazi Testimony Derails Fox’s “Incredibly Damning” Attack on Obama

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244 comments
1 Skip Intro  May 2, 2014 10:33:33am

#GOPSpecialCommittee

2 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:33:48am

They need more than an intervention. They need a trip to the same hospital that McMurphy, Billy Bibbit, and the Chief were at.

3 Varek Raith  May 2, 2014 10:33:55am

What a fantastic example of government abuse and waste!

4 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:34:56am

And of course said committee will end up stacked with Issa and his ilk, all of whom will in no way abuse the expanded powers of being appointed to a special committee to go fishing for stuff unrelated to Benghazi.

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5 Skip Intro  May 2, 2014 10:34:57am

So it would be a safe bet that the GOP leadership gets its orders directly from Fox News now.

6 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:35:50am

So John, just how hard did they have to twist your arm to go along with this? What was the 30 pieces of silver they promised you? Not to object to your continued speakership after the next election?

7 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 10:35:52am
8 Ian G.  May 2, 2014 10:36:03am

Can we first establish a committee to investigate the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut, which was about 50 Benghazis?

Oh wait, that happened under Ronaldus Mangnus (PBUH). Nothing to see there, folks. Carry on.

9 b.d.  May 2, 2014 10:36:09am

Will this be a Blue Ribbon Select Committee or just a regular Select Committee, those guys deserve a Blue Ribbon Select Committee or nothing at all.

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10 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 10:36:15am
11 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:36:46am

re: #7 lawhawk

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The embassy security cuts is something that the GOP never wants to talk about in this pathetic fishing expedition.

12 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:37:46am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

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They don’t know what treason fucking is.

13 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:37:56am

So, does this mean we now have to start referring to Issa as the Grand Inquisitor?

14 b.d.  May 2, 2014 10:38:07am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

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Damn all caps, you can’t argue with that.

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15 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 10:38:22am
16 Testy Toad T  May 2, 2014 10:39:44am

I still have yet to actually encounter a #BENGHAZI in the wild, and I work with more than several very seriously Republican-leaning folks. I remain unconvinced that this topic has anywhere near the breadth of appeal that the GOP thinks.

17 Gus  May 2, 2014 10:40:24am

re: #3 Varek Raith

What a fantastic example of government abuse and waste!

They don’t care. It’s all about taking Hillary down now. Think of it as Whitewater II.

18 b.d.  May 2, 2014 10:40:49am

SO THEY HAVE GIVEN UP ON REPEALING OBAMACARE?!?!?

19 Ian G.  May 2, 2014 10:40:49am

Note that this is happening on the day where 280k jobs were reported added in April, after a rough few weeks where elderly constipated white men (i.e. the core of the GOP) spewed forth a bunch of racist shit that embarrassed the entire GOP.

In short, it’s a desperate attempt at a diversion.

20 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:40:50am

It also needs to be pointed out that Romney the slimy asshole he is actually said POTUS sympathized with the Benghazi attackers.

21 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 10:41:35am

Treason. You keep using that word. It doesn’t mean what you think it means.

A policy dispute isn’t treason. The inability to respond to a terror attack within milliseconds of the attack isn’t treason. Taking several days to get all the facts straight about what happened, or giving incomplete or incorrect information about the attack in the hours after the attack occurred isn’t treason.

But, apparently, Presidenting while Obama will be a treasonous event for the usual suspects on the right.

And yet, this goes beyond trying to get Obama. It’s about trying to tar Sec. State Clinton too. That’s the ultimate goal here - tie her up with what happened and smear her so that the GOP pretenders have a better shot at the WH in 2016. Or, failing that, fatten the campaign warchests of those involved, and provide a new outlet for the cottage industry of Clinton haters.

22 Bubblehead II  May 2, 2014 10:42:50am

re: #15 Pie-onist Overlord

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PWB obviously.

23 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 10:43:57am
24 Bulworth  May 2, 2014 10:44:07am

Bush didn’t commit TREASON but obvious OBAMA has

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OBVIOUS! Confirmed. FACT. Thats why wes need spec committee to get FACTS we KNOW and CONVICT!!!11

25 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:45:13am

re: #19 Ian G.

Note that this is happening on the day where 280k jobs were reported added in April, after a rough few weeks where elderly constipated white men (i.e. the core of the GOP) spewed forth a bunch of racist shit that embarrassed the entire GOP.

In short, it’s a desperate attempt at a diversion.

Which will become a liability if the vote succeeds. I’m curious if there 218 Republicans in the House who are willing to go along with this. Last I heard, the bill to actually establish such a committee, introduced months ago, only has 180 co-sponsors.

26 b.d.  May 2, 2014 10:45:14am

Which Bush is that guy talking about?

I’ll give Jenna a pass but I’m not sure about the rest of them.

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27 petesh  May 2, 2014 10:45:52am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

They don’t know what treason fucking is.

Is that what Mata Hari used to do?

28 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:47:20am

re: #27 petesh

Is that what Mata Hari used to do?

Ha win.

29 Charles Johnson  May 2, 2014 10:47:50am

Wow, what’s going on in North Korea?

30 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:48:47am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Wow, what’s going on in North Korea?

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The zombie apocalypse has begun!

31 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 10:49:40am

The Bundy militia roadblocks are the far right’s Fort Sumter. They are begging for a shootout, in the apparent belief that the authorities will surrender completely rather than give it to them. This isn’t Waco or Ruby Ridge, this is the gangs coming onto public property and usurping lawful authority. This is intolerable if the rule of law means anything. It is an armed insurrection. Order the roadblockers to surrender and be placed under arrest. If they point their weapons, open fire.

32 Gus  May 2, 2014 10:49:49am
33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 2, 2014 10:50:41am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Wow, what’s going on in North Korea?

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Maybe they legalized weed.

34 Mike Lamb  May 2, 2014 10:50:54am

I’d still love to hear the endgame for this supposed cover-up. My recollection was that they somehow believed that there was cover-up in order to enhance Obama’s re-election bid, which doesn’t make any fucking sense given the public’s tendency to support the president fully in the wake of terrorist attacks (see e.g. Bush’s popularity post-9/11).

Is it now just a matter of “proving” that he hates America?

I mean seriously this is the Underpants Gnome of Foreign Policy, but it’s missing two steps…

1. Benghazi cover-up…
2. ??
3. ??

35 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:52:09am

re: #32 Gus

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And when they finally did appoint a commission, they allowed the White House to appoint Henry Kissinger to lead it until he became too controversial, at which point he was dropped but so was White House support. It was woefully underfunded and given a very short deadline, received little to no cooperation from the agencies that might have reason to avoid looking culpable for intelligence lapses, and ultimately was made aware that the GOP majority had no desire to see the commission exist at all.

36 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 10:52:16am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

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You need to point him to the GOP committee reports that say there was no Stand Down order, and no forces in the area able to respond in time. This ‘Left to die’ shit is ridiculous, and it’s completely false.

37 Gus  May 2, 2014 10:52:23am
38 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:52:32am

re: #34 Mike Lamb

I’d still love to hear the endgame for this supposed cover-up. My recollection was that they somehow believed that there was cover-up in order to enhance Obama’s re-election bid, which doesn’t make any fucking sense given the public’s tendency to support the president fully in the wake of terrorist attacks (see e.g. Bush’s popularity post-9/11).

Is it now just a matter of “proving” that he hates America?

I mean seriously this is the Underpants Gnome of Foreign Policy, but it’s missing two steps…

1. Benghazi cover-up…
2. ??
3. ??

It’s a stupid partisan game. They’re trying to sell the public that these kind of things only happened under Obama. Really the way the Republicans tell it, there weren’t any attacks on embassies and consulates in the Bush years just Obama’s. Even though there have actually been fewer attacks since Obama became president.

39 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 10:53:05am

CONFIRMED. FACT.

40 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 10:53:30am

re: #35 Targetpractice

And when they finally did appoint a commission, they allowed the White House to appoint Henry Kissinger to lead it until he became too controversial, at which point he was dropped but so was White House support. It was woefully underfunded and given a very short deadline, received little to no cooperation from the agencies that might have reason to avoid looking culpable for intelligence lapses, and ultimately was made aware that the GOP majority had no desire to see the commission exist at all.

Oh, and forgot that Bush and Cheney would not speak to the commission unless they could do so together, not under oath, and could walk away if they didn’t like where the questions were going.

41 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:53:40am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

CONFIRMED. FACT.

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Confirmed Fact, Ed is as stupid as a box of dicks.

42 Gus  May 2, 2014 10:53:54am

From Jon Karl, Jake Tapper to John Boehner. Coincidence?

43 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:54:29am

re: #42 Gus

From Jon Karl, Jake Tapper to John Boehner. Coincidence?

Jawohl

44 Bubblehead II  May 2, 2014 10:55:50am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Prepping the fields for planting.

“Many fires appear in farming areas along rivers,” NASA notes in writing up the satellite imagery. While the country’s best farmland is in the west, which has few fires, many people in the country’s east and north farm small pieces of land. As NASA’s post explains, “They use fire to clear debris from last year’s crop and to help fertilize the soil for the coming season.”

45 GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2014 10:57:41am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

CONFIRMED. FACT.

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The President couldn’t do anything because the GOP cut funding for embassy security. Dur!

46 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:58:27am

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

The President couldn’t do anything because the GOP cut funding for embassy security. Dur!

Yep but that would mean that Benghazi may not be all Obama’s fault and we don’t want that now do we.

47 Jack Burton  May 2, 2014 10:58:44am

re: #42 Gus

From Jon Karl, Jake Tapper to John Boehner. Coincidence?

For a second, until I noticed the Jake in there, I thought you were implying they were Red Lectroids from the Planet 10.

48 Gus  May 2, 2014 10:59:00am
49 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 10:59:42am

re: #48 Gus

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Says a member of the party that cut embassy and consulate security.

50 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 10:59:53am

Only wingnuts can read “a well-regulated militia” and see blank parchment.

51 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:00:01am

This was the ‘thread killer’ from downstairs, but though it needed to get moved over here…

re: #745 Sionainn

This guy has been live-tweeting from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Link

52 b.d.  May 2, 2014 11:00:14am

re: #32 Gus

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But that was just practice 9/11, this is the REAL 9/11 BENGHAZI!!

53 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:00:29am

You think 9/11 trutherism was bad under Bush? Imagine if it happened under Obama. Don’t even want to think about what crazy shit Boehner, Issa, and the nuts would say.

54 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:01:07am

Janie blocked me for calling her a country club princess who never had a job.

55 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:01:12am

re: #50 Pie-onist Overlord

Only wingnuts can read “a well-regulated militia” and see blank parchment.

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Shoulder fired SAMs are armaments too. Just saying. Myself, I’m actually very centered on gun rights. I’m pretty much a liberal centrist.

56 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:01:12am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

CONFIRMED. FACT.

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He should have no difficulty detailing the available forces, their numbers, the tim from alert till ready to take off, travel time to Benghazi, travel time from the airport to Benghazi.

Then he has to explain why every then-or currently-serving member of the military brass have all lied about these capabilities repeatedly for the last two years, and why the GOP Congressional investigations all agreed with those supposed lies.

57 Sionainn  May 2, 2014 11:01:25am

re: #51 RealityBasedSteve

This was the ‘thread killer’ from downstairs, but though it needed to get moved over here…

Thanks, although apparently absolutely nothing is going on. He has not tweeted anything new for 38 minutes.

58 nines09  May 2, 2014 11:02:32am

It does two things. Makes it appear that they are doing something, which they are not, and feed their brain dead base. Grifters gotta grift.

59 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:02:57am

re: #57 Sionainn

Thanks, although apparently absolutely nothing is going on. He has tweeted anything new for 38 minutes.

They Came, They Filed, They Went Home. (and press outnumbers the supporters maybe)

RBS

60 Mike Lamb  May 2, 2014 11:03:06am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

It’s a stupid partisan game. They’re trying to sell the public that these kind of things only happened under Obama. Really the way the Republicans tell it, there weren’t any attacks on embassies and consulates in the Bush years just Obama’s. Even though there have actually been fewer attacks since Obama became president.

I understand that it’s partisan, but there still needs to be some kind of a + b = c involved.

61 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:03:29am

re: #56 GeneJockey

He should have no difficulty detailing the available forces, their numbers, the tim from alert till ready to take off, travel time to Benghazi, travel time from the airport to Benghazi.

Then he has to explain why every then-or currently-serving member of the military brass have all lied about these capabilities repeatedly for the last two years, and why the GOP Congressional investigations all agreed with those supposed lies.

Because they found a brigadier general from AfriCom Intel who told Issa yesterday that they totally could have had boots on the ground in Benghazi in time to help out. Granted, he admitted he had no real idea what resources were available or the actual travel time, but in his opinion it was totally possible and he believes the only reason it didn’t happen is because the military was not given the “Go” signal.

62 Sionainn  May 2, 2014 11:04:12am

Trying to pull up the 11:00 a.m. news right now. Link

63 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 11:04:14am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

The flippant response would be that the zombie apocalypse has come.

The less flippant answer? Don’t know. If they were trying to hide troop movements, that’s not going to do it. Nor would it correspond to the known location of missile launch sites or nuclear test sites.

What’s possible is that the country’s hit by a combination of annual fire-clearing of fields and wildfires in much the same way that California and the US West are - drought and winds turning into a deadly combination.

64 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:04:17am

re: #58 nines09

It does two things. Makes it appear that they are doing something, which they are not, and feed their brain dead base. Grifters gotta grift.

It’s not a surprise that one of the guys pushing BENGHAZI! the most is Graham who sweating off a primary challenge. This is all about looking as anti-Obama as possible for a base who hates POTUS more than the actual perpetrators of the Benghazi attack.

65 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 11:04:28am

I don’t think a Bundy bloodbath will play out the way the far right thinks. These people are essentially holding themselves hostage, manipulating the situation so the legitimate authorities have no choices other than complete acquiescence or a bloodbath. They are sublimely confident that any shooting, especially on the scale that seems to be required, would be a black eye for the feds.
That is the conventional wisdom based on precedents like Waco and Ruby Ridge. This is a fundamentally different situation, however, especially if the insurrectionists decide to fight on public property. The kooks would not be perceived as victims of overreach and oppression (though right wing media would labor mightily to portray them as such) but as fascist thugs and fools.
In any case, the president and the federal government cannot allow right wing radio liars to intimidate them into allowing lawless fanatics to seize power even in a small area.

66 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:04:42am

re: #60 Mike Lamb

I understand that it’s partisan, but there still needs to be some kind of a + b = c involved.

You’re not thinking fourth dimensionally. They’re playing the long game here, hedging their bets that this time next year, they’ll have a Senate majority that will vote to convict, finally ending their roadblock on impeachment.

67 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:05:29am

re: #66 Targetpractice

You’re not thinking fourth dimensionally. They’re playing the long game here, hedging their bets that this time next year, they’ll have a Senate majority that will vote to convict, finally ending their roadblock on impeachment.

Don’t they need 2/3’s of the vote to convict?

68 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:05:31am
69 GunstarGreen  May 2, 2014 11:05:40am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

CONFIRMED. FACT.

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“Even assuming that were true (it’s not), what part of that is in violation of the law in a way that can be legally defined as ‘treason’? Please cite section and paragraph.”

70 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 11:05:53am

re: #55 Gus

Shoulder fired SAMs are armaments too. Just saying. Myself, I’m actually very centered on gun rights. I’m pretty much a liberal centrist.

You’ll pry the 101st Chairborne brigade from my cold dead hands. That includes my M1-A2 tanks, A10 troop support, RQ-9s, and B-52 long range support. /

71 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:06:10am
72 nines09  May 2, 2014 11:06:11am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

They are conniving hyenas. The most ignorant pack of useless in a long, long time.

73 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:07:09am
74 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:07:18am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Don’t they need 2/3’s of the vote to convict?

Remember, these are the same folks who went ahead with impeachment of Clinton because they were convinced they could con enough Democrats into going along with conviction simply to save their own hides in the next elections.

75 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:07:42am

re: #73 Gus

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Because being outside the White House for any length of time is an impeachable offense when you’re a Democrat.

76 Sionainn  May 2, 2014 11:08:20am

Okay, Las Vegas local news officially sucks.

77 Charles Johnson  May 2, 2014 11:08:23am
78 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:08:31am

re: #70 lawhawk

You’ll pry the 101st Chairborne brigade from my cold dead hands. That includes my M1-A2 tanks, A10 troop support, RQ-9s, and B-52 long range support. /

All I have is a piece of fruit. :-(

RBS

79 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:08:39am

Ed is a never-ending fountain of Derp.

80 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:08:53am

re: #73 Gus

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McCain and Graham, but of course.

81 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:08:53am

re: #78 RealityBasedSteve

All I have is a piece of fruit. :-(

RBS

I got a rock.

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82 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:09:29am

re: #79 Pie-onist Overlord

Ed is a never-ending fountain of Derp.

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I’d just block him. He’s not interested in having an intelligent conversation.

83 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:09:48am

re: #79 Pie-onist Overlord

Ed is a never-ending fountain of Derp.

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If security was such an issue, as they have repeatedly alleged, then why did Stevens turn down at least two offers from Gen. Ham for soldiers to post at the consulate in the weeks before the attacks?

84 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:09:53am

re: #74 Targetpractice

Remember, these are the same folks who went ahead with impeachment of Clinton because they were convinced they could con enough Democrats into going along with conviction simply to save their own hides in the next elections.

Ah true.

85 Ian G.  May 2, 2014 11:10:00am

re: #73 Gus

Isn’t that something that 9/11 truthers dwell on too? Where was Bush during the attacks, or immediately after the attacks?

Who gives a rat’s ass?

86 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:10:04am

re: #77 Charles Johnson

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Breaking News…. Glen Greenwald’s Mom says that “Glen is the best son EVER!”

87 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:10:08am

Gun-fucking meme of the day. Notice no ear protection.

88 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 11:10:13am

re: #81 Targetpractice

I got a rock.

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Rock beats fruit, but Lizard beats rock, and Spock beats lizard. But paper disproves Spock. /so there.

89 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:10:27am

GOP = Benghazi Truthers

90 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:10:58am

re: #85 Ian G.

Isn’t that something that 9/11 truthers dwell on too? Where was Bush during the attacks, or immediately after the attacks?

Who gives a rat’s ass?

Exactly what I was thinking minutes ago.

91 Mike Lamb  May 2, 2014 11:11:02am

re: #73 Gus

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See—this what I’m talking about. Unless Obama says he was leading the terrorists in Libya or having sex with one of these jagoffs wives (which would be an awesome Costanza like response), what, exactly, does it matter in terms of a “cover up”?

92 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:12:18am

re: #91 Mike Lamb

See—this what I’m talking about. Unless Obama says he was leading the terrorists in Libya or having sex with one of these jagoffs wives (which would be an awesome Costanza like response), what, exactly, does it matter?

He was with one of his many gay lovers if you believe the asylum that is WND.

93 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:12:43am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking meme of the day. Notice no ear protection.

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hard to tell from the pic, but the more I look at the ear opening, the more I think she’s got a set of the yellow expanding foam plugs in there…. hard to tell for sure.

RBS

94 jaunte  May 2, 2014 11:12:46am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Flips flops, the stylish new footwear for summer militias.

95 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:13:03am
96 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:13:27am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking meme of the day. Notice no ear protection.

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I see what could be ear plugs. I’ve worn ear plugs to shoot, you don’t need to cover the ears, just plug the ear ‘oles.

97 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:13:41am

re: #93 RealityBasedSteve

hard to tell from the pic, but the more I look at the ear opening, the more I think she’s got a set of the yellow expanding foam plugs in there…. hard to tell for sure.

RBS

She does.

98 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:13:49am

re: #85 Ian G.

Isn’t that something that 9/11 truthers dwell on too? Where was Bush during the attacks, or immediately after the attacks?

Who gives a rat’s ass?

I’ve seen Bush’s fan club spend years excusing his continuing to read a book even after being alerted about what was going on in NYC because “He didn’t want to scare the children!”

99 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:14:13am

re: #96 GeneJockey

I see what could be ear plugs. I’ve worn ear plugs to shoot, you don’t need to cover the ears, just plug the ear ‘oles.

Zoomed to 500%, I’m 99.9% sure she’s got foam plugs.

RBS

100 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:15:28am

re: #99 RealityBasedSteve

Zoomed to 500%, I’m 99.9% sure she’s got foam plugs.

RBS

Unless her tragus is brightly, and unnaturally colored, yeah.

101 kirkspencer  May 2, 2014 11:16:07am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking meme of the day. Notice no ear protection.

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Actually, looks to me like she’s wearing ear plugs. And despite the clothing looks more like she’s actually shooting instead of posing.

One of the saner pictures, actually.

102 Bulworth  May 2, 2014 11:16:17am

Gus posted:

Fox News cuts away from Obama-Merkel presser becus he wasn’t talking about Benghazi:

Obama-Merkel probably talking about Ukraine or something non-important like that. /

103 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 11:16:54am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

I picture her taking the first shot, and the kickback sending her onto her back, and if the first one doesn’t, then the second or third shot would. It does look like she’s got ear protection though.

104 GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2014 11:17:43am

re: #93 RealityBasedSteve

hard to tell from the pic, but the more I look at the ear opening, the more I think she’s got a set of the yellow expanding foam plugs in there…. hard to tell for sure.

RBS

And if it’s a .22LR, no biggie anyway. ;)

105 Ian G.  May 2, 2014 11:17:46am

re: #98 Targetpractice

I’ve seen Bush’s fan club spend years excusing his continuing to read a book even after being alerted about what was going on in NYC because “He didn’t want to scare the children!”

There are many, many reasons to think Bush was a disaster as president, but this is one thing I’m not going to get on his case about. I mean, what the hell was he supposed to do in that situation? None of us were reacting in a cool, calm, prepared manner to the attacks.

Plus, if he had gone immediately into some sort of superhero mode, the 9/11 truthers would just say it’s evidence that he knew the attacks were coming.

106 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 11:17:50am

Speculation: The feds are unprepared to confront right-wing insurrectionists because for several years right-wing media and politicians have landed on them like a ton of bricks every time word leaked out that the possibility was even being considered. Remember the uproar over the 2009 DHS report on domestic terrorism?

The report, released just as the “tea-party” movement was heating up, came under withering criticism from the right. Commentators complained that it unfairly placed conservatives under suspicion. John Boehner, the House Speaker, said it cast veterans as “potential terrorists”. Daryl Johnson, who headed the unit responsible for that report, said that DHS promptly caved in to the pressure. Within months his unit, which had six-full time analysts and two supplemental staff—fewer by far than the team that monitored Islamic threats—was gutted, “out of malice and risk aversion”, Mr Johnson maintains, and out of fear of politically motivated budget cuts. Training and publications were cut too.

Nor is this imbalance limited to the DHS: since coming under Republican control in 2010, the House Homeland Security Committee has held five hearings on Muslim radicalisation, and none on right-wing threats. Yet America’s right-wing extremists commit a vastly greater number of murderous attacks (though leading to fewer deaths) than Muslims do. According to the Extremist Crime Database (ECDB), published by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, between 1990 and 2010 right-wing extremists carried out 145 murderous attacks, resulting in 348 deaths, 168 of which resulted from the Oklahoma City bombing. During that same time period Muslim extremists committed around 25 attacks, which killed over 3,000 people; but 9/11 accounted for 2,977 of these.

107 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:18:27am

Though, honestly, I’d rather see a woman with a bolt-action rifle with a nice walnut stock. Black rifles have all the appeal of compound bows or crossbows for me, i.e. none.

108 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:18:53am

#BenghaziTruthers

109 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:19:16am

re: #105 Ian G.

There are many, many reasons to think Bush was a disaster as president, but this is one thing I’m not going to get on his case about. I mean, what the hell was he supposed to do in that situation? None of us were reacting in a cool, calm, prepared manner to the attacks.

Plus, if he had gone immediately into some sort of superhero mode, the 9/11 truthers would just say it’s evidence that he knew the attacks were coming.

Yeah same. What gets me though is the different standards wingnuts hold Republican presidents especially Reagan to and the ones they hold Obama to. Take Iran-Contra or the Beirut barracks bombings, those are things that had they happened on Obama’s watch would have had the wingnuts screaming for Obama’s head but because Saint Ronnie did it, no biggie!

110 EPR-radar  May 2, 2014 11:20:24am

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel

In other words, the US mainstream right has now fallen so far that they are presently enabling their lunatic fringe.

111 Bubblehead II  May 2, 2014 11:20:40am

re: #96 GeneJockey

I see what could be ear plugs. I’ve worn ear plugs to shoot, you don’t need to cover the ears, just plug the ear ‘oles.

I’ve used (unused) cigarette butts as ear plugs in a pinch.

112 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:21:28am

re: #105 Ian G.

There are many, many reasons to think Bush was a disaster as president, but this is one thing I’m not going to get on his case about. I mean, what the hell was he supposed to do in that situation? None of us were reacting in a cool, calm, prepared manner to the attacks.

Plus, if he had gone immediately into some sort of superhero mode, the 9/11 truthers would just say it’s evidence that he knew the attacks were coming.

And that’s why I don’t sweat where Bush was or where the President was, because that shit’s inconsequential. They have staff who are around them 24/7 and can keep them up-to-date on what’s happening. If he decides to give orders, they can relay them to those people who need those orders. The President does not need to be sitting in a specific spot, in a specific room, at a specific time in order for shit to get done.

113 GlutenFreeJesus  May 2, 2014 11:21:37am

Benghazi is 9/11 x 100!

Youtube Video

114 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:22:06am

re: #110 EPR-radar

In other words, the US mainstream right has now fallen so far that they are presently enabling their lunatic fringe.

I’m “old” enough to remember when opposition to all abortions was a fringe position even in the GOP. Now it’s more common than not to find GOPers opposed to legalized abortion in all incidences. The GOP just keeps on growing more and more reactionary. That’s what is disturbing to me and I just don’t see it changing though thankfully they didn’t nominate the total nutbar for our open Congressional seat.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:22:22am

I notice that guy wingnuts will try to argue with me but girl wingnuts are just all EEK A COMMUNIST!!!!!!! and block me right away.

116 GunstarGreen  May 2, 2014 11:23:30am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

I’m “old” enough to remember when opposition to all abortions was a fringe position even in the GOP. Now it’s more common than not to find GOPers opposed to legalized abortion in all incidences. The GOP just keeps on growing more and more reactionary. That’s what is disturbing to me and I just don’t see it changing though thankfully they didn’t nominate the total nutbar for our open Congressional seat.

This is what happens when our society changes to believe that it’s improper to tell someone “You are a fucking loon and you belong in a padded room.”

Nah, we need to hear “both sides” nowadays.

117 jaunte  May 2, 2014 11:23:34am

So the argument is, they should have told somebody to go save people?

118 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:23:38am
119 makeitstop  May 2, 2014 11:23:46am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

McCain and Graham, but of course.

And don’t forget Kelly Ayotte. The Benghazi Trio.

120 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:23:56am

re: #113 GlutenFreeJesus

Benghazi is 9/11 x 100!

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Video

Kim Jong Il: It will be 911 times 2356.
Chris: My God, that’s… I don’t even know what that is!
Kim Jong Il: Nobody does!

121 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:24:42am

re: #116 GunstarGreen

This is what happens when our society changes to believe that it’s improper to tell someone “You are a fucking loon and you belong in a padded room.”

Nah, we need to hear “both sides” nowadays.

Yeah the old MBF.

122 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 11:24:46am

re: #110 EPR-radar

In other words, the US mainstream right has now fallen so far that they are presently enabling their lunatic fringe.

Absolutely. It serves their objectives by weakening the current administration and the federal government in general. The latter is perhaps more important since it will ultimately benefit the GOP’s real constituency, the corporate overlords who want an end to federal regulation.

123 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:25:30am

re: #119 makeitstop

And don’t forget Kelly Ayotte. The Benghazi Trio.

Of course. Good point.

124 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:25:36am

re: #117 jaunte

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So the argument is, they should have told somebody to go save people?

Except Lovell was not in that chain of command, he was an Intel guy. He had no authority to send soldiers to Benghazi, that was the job description of other generals. Men who have already sat before Congress and said they were not told to “stand down” or to refuse assistance to the consulate.

125 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:25:42am

Jesus Christ she’s still pushing this shit.

126 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:26:34am

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus Christ she’s still pushing this shit.

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#Youmightbeaconservative if you continue to post well debunked bs as fact.

127 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:26:51am

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

I notice that guy wingnuts will try to argue with me but girl wingnuts are just all EEK A COMMUNIST!!!!!!! and block me right away.

In my limited experience, men are more likely to want to argue. Wingnut women just want to express outrage. My cousin in WV’s wife blocked me on FB when I asked her to explain how she thought one could increase jobs by giving more money to people who were already wealthier than anyone in history, with taxes lower than they have been for most of our lives.

128 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:28:05am

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Yeah the old MBF.

“Shape of the Earth - opinions differ.”

129 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:28:21am

re: #127 GeneJockey

In my limited experience, men are more likely to want to argue. Wingnut women just want to express outrage. My cousin in WV’s wife blocked me on FB when I asked her to explain how she thought one could increase jobs by giving more money to people who were already wealthier than anyone in history, with taxes lower than they have been for most of our lives.

I hate people turning their facebook into 24/7 soapboxes. And I include people in that I’m inclined to agree with more than not in that too. Sorry just ranting.

130 Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2014 11:28:25am

re: #48 Gus

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How does he not hurt himself tying his shoes in the morning? Slip on loafers I guess.

131 Sionainn  May 2, 2014 11:29:34am

They had about 20 supporters there and about an equal number of press. LOL. Link

132 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:29:35am

re: #124 Targetpractice

Except Lovell was not in that chain of command, he was an Intel guy. He had no authority to send soldiers to Benghazi, that was the job description of other generals. Men who have already sat before Congress and said they were not told to “stand down” or to refuse assistance to the consulate.

The other thing is, Lovell specifically stated that he was not testifying that there were any forces in a position to respond. More that he was frustrated by the inability to do so.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:30:37am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

I hate people turning their facebook into 24/7 soapboxes. And I include people in that I’m inclined to agree with more than not in that too. Sorry just ranting.

I use Teh Twitters for needling wingnuts, keep FB for pictures of my grandkids. Even then I have to block all the derp that my kids engage in.

134 jaunte  May 2, 2014 11:30:46am

re: #132 GeneJockey

The other thing is, Lovell specifically stated that he was not testifying that there were any forces in a position to respond. More that he was frustrated by the inability to do so.

Fox News Selective Focus™ shows only the story we want to show!

135 Bulworth  May 2, 2014 11:30:50am

If you are NOT at all curious why there are NO records, NO ID or sightings of O at Columbia,

Is this some birther reference to the “old” Obama social security number and born in Kenya, etc?

136 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:31:08am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

I hate people turning their facebook into 24/7 soapboxes. And I include people in that I’m inclined to agree with more than not in that too. Sorry just ranting.

I figure if you share a link to something political, you’re inviting discussion. If you block people who present an opposing position, you’re just a dick, whether you have one or not.

137 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:31:58am

re: #132 GeneJockey

The other thing is, Lovell specifically stated that he was not testifying that there were any forces in a position to respond. More that he was frustrated by the inability to do so.

Yep, Lovell’s entire testimony was effectively one man stating his opinion on what happened that evening and frustration over “not enough” being done.

138 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:32:15am

re: #134 jaunte

Fox News Selective FocusTM shows only the story we want to show!

Fox News - All The News That Fits The Narrative!

139 kirkspencer  May 2, 2014 11:32:16am

re: #124 Targetpractice

Except Lovell was not in that chain of command, he was an Intel guy. He had no authority to send soldiers to Benghazi, that was the job description of other generals. Men who have already sat before Congress and said they were not told to “stand down” or to refuse assistance to the consulate.

So he’s basically calling his (then) superior, General Ham, a liar.

140 Testy Toad T  May 2, 2014 11:32:35am

re: #117 jaunte

So the argument is, they should have told somebody to go save people?

“Did X happen?”
“Not to my knowledge.”

He’s ready for his First Look Media interview!

141 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:32:38am

re: #135 Bulworth

If you are NOT at all curious why there are NO records, NO ID or sightings of O at Columbia,

Is this some birther reference to the “old” Obama social security number and born in Kenya, etc?

No, it’s the fake Columbia ID that somebody Photoshopped from a German guy’s student ID, then forgot to change the ID NUMBER.

142 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:32:50am

re: #139 kirkspencer

So he’s basically calling his (then) superior, General Ham, a liar.

For his sake, I hope he’s retired.

143 makeitstop  May 2, 2014 11:33:49am

I don’t know if this has been shared here, but I think it’s brilliant.

The Story of Barack Obama (as told by Conservatives)

Barack Obama was born in Kenya. His father was the communist Frank Marshall Davis, who taught the young Barack the ways of Communism.

At some point, Barack Obama Sr. came into the picture and pretended to be Barack Obama’s real father. He taught his “son” to hate the British because of their behavior in colonial days. The Obamas posted a birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper in order to fake their son’s birth on U.S. soil.

Obama attended a Madrassa in Indonesia, where he grew up. This is where he learned to be a Muslim.

Obama then decided to adopt the name “Barry” as part of his long-standing plot to fake being American.

Much more there. Delicious snark, just like Mom used to make.

144 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:34:28am

re: #139 kirkspencer

So he’s basically calling his (then) superior, General Ham, a liar.

To be fair to the now retired general, the GOP basically conned him into believing he was there to discuss his views on what precipitated the events, before beginning with the leading questions into whether he felt that AfriCom could have responded in time to save at least two lives at the CIA annex.

145 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:34:39am

re: #143 makeitstop

I don’t know if this has been shared here, but I think it’s brilliant.

The Story of Barack Obama (as told by Conservatives)

Much more there. Delicious snark, just like Mom used to make.

It was, and you’re right, it’s brilliant. Though it does fly in the face of ‘Fiction has to make sense.”
////

146 Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2014 11:36:38am

re: #85 Ian G.

Isn’t that something that 9/11 truthers dwell on too? Where was Bush during the attacks, or immediately after the attacks?

Who gives a rat’s ass?

I saw the tape, he was reading “My Pet Goat” and thinking of lost love.

147 Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2014 11:36:47am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking meme of the day. Notice no ear protection.

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What is with all the gun nuts and peashooters?

I’ll take this, thanks.

Marlin lever action .444 caliber

148 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 11:37:55am

They are trying to stop Hillary again, just like they did in 2008.
For about two years before the ‘08 campaign, vicious RW radio liar Sean Hannity referred to his program as the “Stop Hillary express.”

Hey, it worked!

I wonder what unintended consequence will fall on their empty heads this time?

149 Lidane  May 2, 2014 11:38:09am

re: #73 Gus

Don Quixote called. He wants the GOP to know that Benghazi is a windmill.

150 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:38:54am

re: #136 GeneJockey

I figure if you share a link to something political, you’re inviting discussion. If you block people who present an opposing position, you’re just a dick, whether you have one or not.

Yep. Honestly, I just stay the hell away from it. One, despite posting here, I’m really not that political anymore despite having had done work with my university’s Democrats chapter and two, people are so self-righteous about politics.

151 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:39:26am

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel

They are trying to stop Hillary again, just like they did in 2008.
For about two years before the ‘08 campaign, vicious RW radio liar Sean Hannity referred to his program as the “Stop Hillary express.”

Hey, it worked!

I wonder what unintended consequence will fall on their empty heads this time?

President O’Malley wouldn’t be bad. I like Hillary mind you but I really like my neighboring state’s governor.

152 Killgore Trout  May 2, 2014 11:39:40am

first rule of gun safety: open eyes before firing

153 jaunte  May 2, 2014 11:39:42am

From today’s Fox News email alert.

154 Lidane  May 2, 2014 11:39:50am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

No ear or eye protection. Also, wouldn’t shooting a gun in that position lead to injury?

155 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:40:35am

re: #154 Lidane

No ear or eye protection. Also, wouldn’t shooting a gun in that position lead to injury?

It’s been pointed out she does actually have ear protection.

156 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 11:40:58am
157 jaunte  May 2, 2014 11:41:01am

Why would people think Bengfoxghazi is a Fox Benghazi News story?

158 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:41:09am

re: #154 Lidane

No ear or eye protection. Also, wouldn’t shooting a gun in that position lead to injury?

She’s wearing plugs upon further inspection. Surprised no eye protection tho.

159 Charles Johnson  May 2, 2014 11:41:16am

Just caught up on EdDantes’ latest mind-numbingly lame creationism troll comments.

He’s really not asking for evidence honestly — you folks know that, right? He just enjoys making you waste time responding to him.

160 Lidane  May 2, 2014 11:41:33am

re: #155 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s been pointed out she does actually have ear protection.

Ah. I see it now. I hadn’t gotten to those posts yet.

161 b.d.  May 2, 2014 11:42:16am

I FOUND THIS RANDOM STUDENT ID ON THE GROUND, I BETTER SAVE IT FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES IN CASE THIS RANDOM FOREIGN KID BECOMES PRESIDENT

162 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:42:52am

re: #153 jaunte

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From today’s Fox News email alert.

Yeah Bill no one in the press gives a damn except your network which wants to make this 9/11 times 2356. Love iet when wingnut hacks in the media act as if they’re not part of the media and they’re just part of the underground news trying to get to the truth!

163 kirkspencer  May 2, 2014 11:43:04am

re: #154 Lidane

No ear or eye protection. Also, wouldn’t shooting a gun in that position lead to injury?

Depends on recoil, which depends on a few other things. If that’s a .223 or smaller then no, it’s not going to knock her over. Heavier and yes it might rock her backward.

164 Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2014 11:44:55am

re: #6 Targetpractice

So John, just how hard did they have to twist your arm to go along with this? What was the 30 pieces of silver they promised you? Not to object to your continued speakership after the next election?

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

165 Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2014 11:45:19am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

My condolences.

166 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:45:22am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

Sorry to hear about your loss.

167 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:45:41am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

What is with all the gun nuts and peashooters?

I’ll take this, thanks.

Marlin lever action .444 caliber

A friend of mine had one of those chambered in 45-70. Nice gun. Loud. You can see it to the left of the balding old bastard who just fired the .50 cal. Lyman Plains Rifle.

In retrospect, I probably should have put the cap back on the Pyrodex before shooting, but no harm explosion no foul, right?

168 sattv4u2  May 2, 2014 11:45:44am

re: #152 Killgore Trout

first rule of gun safety: open eyes before firing

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Makes it easier to say “I didn’t know that I was shooting a little old lady”

169 Testy Toad T  May 2, 2014 11:45:46am

re: #153 jaunte

[Embedded image]

From today’s Fox News email alert.

“Dude, where’s my Benghazi?”

170 sattv4u2  May 2, 2014 11:46:15am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

{{heretic}}

171 kirkspencer  May 2, 2014 11:46:43am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

My sympathies. Been there recently.

172 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:46:50am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

Sorry for your loss.

173 EPR-radar  May 2, 2014 11:47:14am

re: #159 Charles Johnson

Just caught up on EdDantes’ latest mind-numbingly lame creationism troll comments.

He’s really not asking for evidence honestly — you folks know that, right? He just enjoys making you waste time responding to him.

It really is amazing to see the spread of creationist-type ‘thinking’ to all other aspects of movement conservatism.

I’m old enough to remember the GOP as the ‘party of ideas’ talking point, which has now long since been retired.

174 klys  May 2, 2014 11:47:58am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

Thoughts with you, your mother, and your family.

{{RH}}

175 Stanley Sea  May 2, 2014 11:48:08am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

So sorry RH.

176 Bubblehead II  May 2, 2014 11:48:26am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

Sorry for your loss.

177 makeitstop  May 2, 2014 11:48:56am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

Sympathies, RH.

178 Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2014 11:49:07am

re: #167 GeneJockey

A friend of mine had one of those chambered in 45-70. Nice gun. Loud. You can see it to the left of the balding old bastard who just fired the .50 cal. Lyman Plains Rifle.

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In retrospect, I probably should have put the cap back on the Pyrodex before shooting, but no harm explosion no foul, right?

One of my faves, which I no longer own, was an Arisaka Type 99. It wasn’t modified, and it still had the Imperial Crysanthemum on it. Picked it up at a hock shop. It wasn’t easy to find ammo for it (7.7 mm), but I did after a while. It was in good condition.

179 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 11:50:11am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

What is with all the gun nuts and peashooters?

I’ll take this, thanks.

Marlin lever action .444 caliber

Very cool. They also have this in 45/70. I’ve thought pretty seriously about getting one, particularly the short barrel “guide gun” version.

180 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:50:33am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

Sorry to hear that RH. Even when it’s expected, it’s tough.

181 CuriousLurker  May 2, 2014 11:51:29am

Drive-by comment - Oh look, our old friend. I saw this so I googled it:

Dutch MP Geert Wilders: EU cares about expansion, not Ukraine
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Geert Wilders: EU will burst at seams after European Parliament elections
(RT YouTube channel)

182 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 11:52:44am

re: #167 GeneJockey

A friend of mine had one of those chambered in 45-70. Nice gun. Loud. You can see it to the left of the balding old bastard who just fired the .50 cal. Lyman Plains Rifle.

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In retrospect, I probably should have put the cap back on the Pyrodex before shooting, but no harm explosion no foul, right?

That could be me, balding pate and all.

183 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:53:20am

re: #181 CuriousLurker

Drive-by comment - Oh look, our old friend. I saw this so I googled it:

Dutch MP Geert Wilders: EU cares about expansion, not Ukraine
(RT cache ink)

Geert Wilders: EU will burst at seams after European Parliament elections
(RT YouTube channel)

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This guy?

184 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:53:56am

re: #183 GeneJockey

This guy?[Embedded image]

Is it just me or does he look like an ugly version of Leonard DiCaprio?

185 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 11:54:15am

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel

That could be me, balding pate and all.

That was about 9 years ago, so although it was me then, it couldn’t be me now, because there’d be a lot more pink!

186 lawhawk  May 2, 2014 11:56:06am

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

Thoughts and prayers to you and yours. My condolences.

187 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 11:56:17am
188 Rightwingconspirator  May 2, 2014 11:56:34am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking meme of the day. Notice no ear protection.

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I get your frustration with some of these.

What is so bad about this one? Young lady WITH ear protection out summer shooting. I took a closer look she hes the yellow foam ear inserts. They have a higher rate of ear protection than the mickey mouse ear type.

Easy my friend it’s not all that bad. That could easily have been an old shot of Dragon_Lady except she only shoots high caliber handguns.

189 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:56:38am

re: #187 Pie-onist Overlord

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They misspelled “Treasonous Bastards” on the sign.

190 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:56:45am
191 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:56:53am
192 sattv4u2  May 2, 2014 11:56:55am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Is it just me or does he look like an CHUBBY ugly version of Leonard DiCaprio?

ftfy

193 Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2014 11:57:04am

re: #179 Shiplord Kirel

Very cool. They also have this in 45/70. I’ve thought pretty seriously about getting one, particularly the short barrel “guide gun” version.

If you can find one, and it shouldn’t be too hard, this is a beautiful big-game rifle.

CZ 550 American Safari Magnum, .458. ჎ská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ 550 Safari, .458)

194 Gus  May 2, 2014 11:57:20am

Benghazi.

Truthers.

Benghazi Truthers.

195 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:58:22am

re: #190 Gus

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Says the man who wants to blacklist all professors who don’t share his ultra-right wing worldview

196 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 11:58:25am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Is it just me or does he look like an ugly version of Leonard DiCaprio?

It’s a Chimera…. Leonard PigCaprio.

RBS

197 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 11:58:31am

re: #191 Gus

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As I noted earlier, the only guarantee that Boehner has given to the House TPers is that he’ll put a bill before them to appoint a committee. I’m not sure that there are 218 Republicans who really want to face the voters and explain why they wish for this witch hunt to continue.

198 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 11:58:52am

re: #192 sattv4u2

ftfy

Yeah good eye. But you see what I saw too right? Looks sim to Leo in the face.

199 Testy Toad T  May 2, 2014 11:59:03am

re: #197 Targetpractice

As I noted earlier, the only guarantee that Boehner has given to the House TPers is that he’ll put a bill before them to appoint a committee. I’m not sure that there are 218 Republicans who really want to face the voters and explain why they wish for this witch hunt to continue.

Something something enough rope to hang selves something.

200 klys  May 2, 2014 11:59:12am

re: #197 Targetpractice

As I noted earlier, the only guarantee that Boehner has given to the House TPers is that he’ll put a bill before them to appoint a committee. I’m not sure that there are 218 Republicans who really want to face the voters and explain why they wish for this witch hunt to continue.

You are more optimistic than I.

201 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 12:00:06pm
202 Rightwingconspirator  May 2, 2014 12:00:11pm

re: #103 lawhawk

I picture her taking the first shot, and the kickback sending her onto her back, and if the first one doesn’t, then the second or third shot would. It does look like she’s got ear protection though.

From .223? No way.

203 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 12:00:55pm

Glenn is going to debate Charles and Bob Cesca?

204 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 12:01:18pm

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

If you can find one, and it shouldn’t be too hard, this is a beautiful big-game rifle.

CZ 550 American Safari Magnum, .458. ჎ská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ 550 Safari, .458)

A real beauty. That would put a wild hog out of the vegetable rustling business for good.

205 sattv4u2  May 2, 2014 12:01:35pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Yeah good eye. But you see what I saw too right? Looks sim to Leo in the face.

Yup. Leo had a similar expression in Catch Me If You Can

Image: catch-me-if-you-can-8.jpg

206 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 12:02:00pm

re: #205 sattv4u2

Yup. Leo had a similar expression in Catch Me If You Can

Image: catch-me-if-you-can-8.jpg

I still need to see that. Did see Wolf of Wall Street though which I enjoyed.

207 Rightwingconspirator  May 2, 2014 12:02:25pm

re: #164 Romantic Heretic

The Tea Partiers probably told him he just might, emphasis on might, continue among the living.

No promises though.

O/T My dad passed away this morning.

Oh so sorry to hear about that. My Dad is really getting up there and Mom has been gone a long time. I find myself thinking about that a lot. It’s life but hard to take.

208 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 12:02:42pm

re: #200 klys

You are more optimistic than I.

I didn’t watch the entire hearing yesterday, but I was informed afterhours that there was even some arguing going on between Issa and another of the Republicans on the committee during questioning. And, as noted above, there’s been a bill out there to appoint a special committee for weeks now and it’s only got 180 co-sponsors.

209 sattv4u2  May 2, 2014 12:02:48pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I still need to see that. Did see Wolf of Wall Street though which I enjoyed.

Not yet

We have it cued up in our On Demand list

210 Pie-onist Overlord  May 2, 2014 12:02:55pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I still need to see that. Did see Wolf of Wall Street though which I enjoyed.

Leo can chew up the scenery. Has he ever been nominated for an Oscar?

211 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 12:03:26pm

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

Leo can chew up the scenery. Has he ever been nominated for an Oscar?

Nominated yes but has never won which is a shame.

212 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 12:03:48pm

re: #209 sattv4u2

Not yet

We have it cued up in our On Demand list

Very deserving of the hype it got.

213 RealityBasedSteve  May 2, 2014 12:04:21pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

As I posted up thread… This is the equivalent of Glen Greenwald’s Mom says “He’s the best son in the entire world… EVER”.

RBS

214 Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2014 12:04:27pm

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

A real beauty. That would put a wild hog out of the vegetable rustling business for good.

Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but give me a good old hunting rifle anyday over the quasi-military nonsense.

Not to mention, I can go elk hunting with a good old hunting rifle. With a lot of the wingnut’s favorite peashooters - not so much.

215 Gus  May 2, 2014 12:04:44pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

That article made me vomit in my mouth.

216 HappyWarrior  May 2, 2014 12:05:31pm

Greenwald is always right. Juts ask Greenwald. That’s why I can’t stand the guy. He’s so convinced he’s right that he won’t even entertain the possibility he’s wrong.

217 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 12:07:08pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Greenwald is always right. Juts ask Greenwald. That’s why I can’t stand the guy. He’s so convinced he’s right that he won’t even entertain the possibility he’s wrong.

For guys like Greenwald, to entertain the possibility they’re wrong is to question if their entire worldview is in error.

218 klys  May 2, 2014 12:07:10pm

re: #208 Targetpractice

I didn’t watch the entire hearing yesterday, but I was informed afterhours that there was even some arguing going on between Issa and another of the Republicans on the committee during questioning. And, as noted above, there’s been a bill out there to appoint a special committee for weeks now and it’s only got 180 co-sponsors.

If they can’t even pass a bill to form the special committee, they really are the most do-nothing Congress ever, I swear.

///

219 Gus  May 2, 2014 12:07:13pm

“two of the most pernicious human beings on the planet”

220 sattv4u2  May 2, 2014 12:07:28pm

re: #215 Gus

That article made me vomit in my mouth.

You didn’t have to do that

I would have bought you a sandwich if I knew you were hungry!!

221 Shiplord Kirel  May 2, 2014 12:08:06pm

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

re: #167 GeneJockey

One thing these beautiful rifles are not good for is mowing down rampaging mobs of “others” when the RW preppers’ proverbial stuff hits the fun. Perhaps this explains the wingnut element’s lack of appreciation. In reality, a hypothetical mob of desperate looters would turn tail and run at the first shot. Wingnuts however take it for granted that they are dealing with subhumans, and the latter would keep coming, zombie like, until all were satisfyingly slaughtered.

222 klys  May 2, 2014 12:08:06pm

re: #217 Targetpractice

For guys like Greenwald, to entertain the possibility they’re wrong is to question if their entire worldview is in error.

YOU’RE AN IDIOT, OF COURSE KERRY IS THE VP. I’M NEVER WRONG.

/stops channeling GG followers

223 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 12:08:25pm

re: #204 Shiplord Kirel

A real beauty. That would put a wild hog out of the vegetable rustling business for good.

CZ’s are some nice looking rifles.

I’m out of the guns and hunting game, though. I kinda got into hunting via archery, but California is a godawful place to hunt. Deer season is in JUNE, there are very few deer and even fewer where you can actually hunt, very little public hunting land that isn’t 5 or more hours drive.

My friends Back East can practically hunt out their back doors, or at least they can hunt so close to home that it’s practical to hunt a few hours before work, plus there are SO MANY DEER that they can get half a dozen doe tags. Some of them eat more venison than any other meat.

224 klys  May 2, 2014 12:09:52pm

re: #223 GeneJockey

CZ’s are some nice looking rifles.

I’m out of the guns and hunting game, though. I kinda got into hunting via archery, but California is a godawful place to hunt. Deer season is in JUNE, there are very few deer and even fewer where you can actually hunt, very little public hunting land that isn’t 5 or more hours drive.

My friends Back East can practically hunt out their back doors, or at least they can hunt so close to home that it’s practical to hunt a few hours before work, plus there are SO MANY DEER that they can get half a dozen doe tags. Some of them eat more venison than any other meat.

My parents, in nice suburban NJ, had 11 deer in their backyard at 3:30pm the other day.

Of course, you totally can’t hunt there, because it is nice, suburban NJ and you’d hit the neighbors’ houses pretty quickly.

225 Targetpractice  May 2, 2014 12:11:11pm

re: #218 klys

If they can’t even pass a bill to form the special committee, they really are the most do-nothing Congress ever, I swear.

///

It’s sort of the nuclear option for the GOP right now. Benghazi has run its course, the only people really believing that there’s anything there much anymore are the crazies in the party base. Yeah, it’ll ensure turnout at the polls this November, but unless they can find something under a trash can at Foggy Bottom to indict Hillary with, then those who went along with this witch hunt are gonna look like fools.

226 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 12:13:58pm

re: #224 klys

My parents, in nice suburban NJ, had 11 deer in their backyard at 3:30pm the other day.

Of course, you totally can’t hunt there, because it is nice, suburban NJ and you’d hit the neighbors’ houses pretty quickly.

A number of the states Back East have strict restrictions on what you can use. PA, for instance, used to allow rifles only with open sights, no scopes, to discourage long shots, since a lot of the time you’re hunting in wood lots etc.

The West, OTOH, is ALL long shots. Big, open, empty areas with long sight lines and all.

227 Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2014 12:15:39pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

One thing these beautiful rifles are not good for is mowing down rampaging mobs of “others” when the RW preppers’ proverbial stuff hits the fun. Perhaps this explains the wingnut element’s lack of appreciation. In reality, a hypothetical mob of desperate looters would turn tail and run at the first shot. Wingnuts however take it for granted that they are dealing with subhumans, and the latter would keep coming, zombie like, until all were satisfyingly slaughtered.

Heh. But if they’re so dagnabbed worried, they should just get themselves one of these legendary bad boys.

Not to even mention that the Thompson is .45 ACP, which is pretty damned powerful. Especially at full-auto.

228 freetoken  May 2, 2014 12:15:45pm

I don’t even know where to start with this one… but I think the SacBee writer is being a bit too generous, or perhaps overly romanticizing the guilty:

Another U.S. Marine shackled in Mexican prison on gun charges

Prison authorities in Tijuana, Mexico, have shackled a decorated U.S. Marine veteran of two combat tours in Afghanistan to his cot in a prison infirmary, restraining each of his limbs, on charges of introducing outlawed weapons into Mexico.

The Marine reservist, Andrew Tahmooressi, 25, who’s from Weston, Fla., outside Miami, drove his black Ford F-150 pickup through the San Ysidro, Calif., border crossing into Tijuana on April 1, carrying his worldly possessions, including three U.S.-registered firearms.

Tahmooressi, who suffers from what his mother calls “directional dysfunction,” got lost near the border after dark. He and his family say he took a wrong turn into Mexico.

Mexican prosecutors have slapped three firearms charges on him, and his fate has been clouded by an attempt to escape the La Mesa penitentiary April 6 that involved ninja-style scaling of a wall topped with coiled barbed wire.

Tahmooressi’s situation parallels that of a another Florida Marine veteran who was held for four months in a Mexican border prison in 2012 for carrying an antique shotgun in his motor home on his way to surf in Costa Rica. A media uproar and pressure from U.S. legislators helped win the freedom of that Marine, Jon Hammar, who grew up in Miami.

In a statement that he signed earlier this week, Tahmooressi said he’d crossed the border inadvertently while he was looking for housing in the San Diego area so he could begin treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder at a nearby Veterans Affairs facility. Tahmooressi had received his official PTSD diagnosis on March 20.

“I accidentally drove into Mexico with 3 guns, a rifle (AR-15), a .45 cal pistol and a 12 gauge pump shotgun with no intentions on being in Mexico or being involved in any criminal activity,” Tahmooressi wrote in a signed privacy waiver this week for the office of U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., a Marine veteran himself whose district is near the border.

[…]

“Wrong turn”… it’s not as if the whole “border” thing at San Ysidro isn’t obvious:
Image: mexicoborder_t700.jpg

Secondly, if this guy is so messed up with PTSD that he doesn’t know where he is and can’t understand one of the more obvious border crossings anywhere, why does he have three guns, including an AR15?

Thirdly, his attempt at an escape I suppose can be chalked up to normal fear, but the way the SacBee writer put it the guy sounds not quite right.

And the SacBee article itself seems overly concerned with the guy somehow not having to follow Mexican law because the guy is a US Vet.

229 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 12:16:44pm

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

Heh. But if they’re so dagnabbed worried, they should just get themselves one of these legendary bad boys.

[Embedded image]

Not to even mention that the Thompson is .45 ACP, which is pretty damned powerful. Especially at full-auto.

“I’M GEORGE NELSON!!!!”

230 Lidane  May 2, 2014 12:17:01pm
231 jaunte  May 2, 2014 12:17:59pm

re: #219 Gus

“two of the most pernicious human beings on the planet”

*taps perniciousness meter*

232 Mattand  May 2, 2014 12:18:50pm

re: #224 klys

My parents, in nice suburban NJ, had 11 deer in their backyard at 3:30pm the other day.

Of course, you totally can’t hunt there, because it is nice, suburban NJ and you’d hit the neighbors’ houses pretty quickly.

When I was a kid, we had some guys go hunting in the open field behind our house. They pulled the whole “We’re a legal distance from a residence” horseshit.

Of all the fucking places to fire a rifle in the greater Phiadelphia area, they chose an overgrown field between a housing development with an elementary school and the NJ Turnpike.

IIRC, the police chased them off. However, this was probably over 30 years ago. Way before the NRA became the nut jobs they are now. I can only imagine what would happen today, or what would happen if the state was Georgia, Florida or Texas.

The cops and I probably would full of lead and bleeding out for daring to question the almighty Second Amendment.

233 kirkspencer  May 2, 2014 12:18:58pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

It’s sort of the nuclear option for the GOP right now. Benghazi has run its course, the only people really believing that there’s anything there much anymore are the crazies in the party base. Yeah, it’ll ensure turnout at the polls this November, but unless they can find something under a trash can at Foggy Bottom to indict Hillary with, then those who went along with this witch hunt are gonna look like fools.

It has to be. When RCP runs a Hillary v X series, puts the thumb on the scale by using conservative polls only, and she’s STILL got double digit leads on them all, they’re desperate.

If Ms. Clinton chooses to run the big thing she’ll have to avoid is being Coakley, and in my opinion that starts with NOT using Mark Penn’s services. That noted, she’s not just the front-runner but she’d run as a defacto incumbent with all the advantages that implies.

234 Gus  May 2, 2014 12:20:10pm

Is it me or does that P/M article call Greenwald, polite?

235 GeneJockey  May 2, 2014 12:20:36pm

re: #232 Mattand

When I was a kid, we had some guys go hunting in the open field behind our house. They pulled the whole “We’re a legal distance from a residence” horseshit.

Of all the fucking places to fire a rifle in the greater Phiadelphia area, they chose an overgrown field between a housing development with an elementary school and the NJ Turnpike.

IIRC, the police chased them off. However, this was probably over 30 years ago. Way before the NRA became the nut jobs they are now. I can only imagine what would happen today, or what would happen if the state was Georgia, Florida or Texas.

The cops and I probably would full of lead and bleeding out for daring to question the almighty Second Amendment.

Right. “We measured from every building near by, and if we stay within this 20 x 30 foot box, we’re legal!”

236 Mattand  May 2, 2014 12:30:13pm

re: #235 GeneJockey

Right. “We measured from every building near by, and if we stay within this 20 x 30 foot box, we’re legal!”

Seriously. The land in question eventually became zoned for a little mini business park, but at the time it was a field with weeds over 4 feet high. It’s not like you couldn’t see the houses.

That’s why I laughed when I saw Klys’s comment. A stray bullet one way and these guys shoot into someone’s house; the other way could have possibly hit a car on the Turnpike.

The reports from the rifles were actually shaking loose branches out of the trees. They were close enough that we could carry on a conversation by speaking loudly/slightly yelling.

That I remember because I asked them to take it elsewhere, as our cat was out in the field at the time. That’s when I got the distance speech.

That’s why I get so frustrated with gun culture at times. I know there’s many, many responsible owners (including everyone here), but the margin for error seems guns really tight. Poor judgement like that doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies.

237 sagehen  May 2, 2014 12:32:14pm

re: #224 klys

My parents, in nice suburban NJ, had 11 deer in their backyard at 3:30pm the other day.

Of course, you totally can’t hunt there, because it is nice, suburban NJ and you’d hit the neighbors’ houses pretty quickly.

not with this:

Image: Darryl-Dixon-daryl-dixon-26455132-590-375.jpg

238 klys  May 2, 2014 12:35:45pm

re: #237 sagehen

not with this:

Image: Darryl-Dixon-daryl-dixon-26455132-590-375.jpg

I’d hit him.

///

239 ObserverArt  May 2, 2014 12:40:04pm

Click on it for a larger view.

I placed this in the newer thread first…and screwed the first go-round by forgetting one of the A letters.

Wheel of Republicans…goes around and around

240 Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2014 12:47:37pm

re: #161 b.d.

I FOUND THIS RANDOM STUDENT ID ON THE GROUND, I BETTER SAVE IT FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES IN CASE THIS RANDOM FOREIGN KID BECOMES PRESIDENT

Too bad they didn’t have an old blue dress that hadn’t been cleaned in a year or so.

241 urbanmeemaw  May 2, 2014 12:53:54pm

re: #164 Romantic Heretic My deepest condolences.

242 jaunte  May 2, 2014 1:05:02pm
243 Amory Blaine  May 2, 2014 1:35:15pm

Anyone else find the Speakers graphic in his tweet in poor taste? It looks like a trailer for a Quentin Tarantino movie. Not a respectful acknowledgement of the victims.

244 steve_davis  May 2, 2014 1:45:43pm

re: #9 b.d.

Will this be a Blue Ribbon Select Committee or just a regular Select Committee, those guys deserve a Blue Ribbon Select Committee or nothing at all.

//

It’ll be a Pabst Blue Ribbon Committee, complete with beer sampling: “We regret to inform you that your horse will surely die.”


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