1 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:28:32pm
2 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 5:30:30pm

The NBC News feed is good - no yammering anchor-things, just the raw feed. I actually find this unedited stuff more interesting than the main event sometimes.

3 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 5:32:50pm

Man, that room is tuxedo’ed OUT.

4 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:33:10pm

I’m helping CSPAN to their biggest viewership of the year.

5 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 5:33:41pm
6 darthstar  May 3, 2014 5:35:45pm

Mmm…watching reporters eat.

7 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:36:15pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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I think she’s at Rutgers?

8 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 5:37:08pm

re: #6 darthstar

Mmm…watching reporters eat.

each other?

Is this a LOST episode???

Those CANNIBALS!!!

9 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:37:09pm

Reference for everyone else who never heard of Joel McHale before tonight:
en.wikipedia.org

10 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 5:38:14pm

re: #6 darthstar

re: #8 sattv4u2

each other?

Is this a LOST episode???

Those CANNIBALS!!!

(Jeffery Dahmer was unavailable for comment ,,,, {burp})

11 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:38:21pm

re: #9 jaunte

Reference for everyone else who never heard of Joel McHale before tonight:
en.wikipedia.org

The Soup? I remember that.

12 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:38:51pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

I think she’s at Rutgers?

nope

13 ninja cat  May 3, 2014 5:39:01pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

Wonder if it was the link to this not so great pic?
instagram.com

14 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 5:39:25pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

The Soup? I remember that.

It’s still on

15 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:40:07pm

re: #13 ninja cat

Wonder if it was the link to this not so great pic?
instagram.com

Awww maybe? It is what it is.

16 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:40:32pm

re: #14 sattv4u2

It’s still on

ha!

17 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 5:40:52pm

re: #13 ninja cat

Wonder if it was the link to this not so great pic?
instagram.com

Snapped in mid blink

I have a drawer full of old polaroids that never made it in to albums because someone in the photo was like that

18 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:41:22pm

Michelle Obama has the best seat. Potus…..he has to make talk with the correspondence dinner guy.

19 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 5:42:37pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

nope

[Embedded content]

Uh oh.

20 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:43:24pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

Code Bismol.

21 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:43:47pm

re: #17 sattv4u2

Snapped in mid blink

I have a drawer full of old polaroids that never made it in to albums because someone in the photo was like that

PIMF

22 Floral Giraffe  May 3, 2014 5:44:25pm

re: #20 jaunte

Rubber Chicken!

23 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 5:44:38pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Uh oh.

They’re just ranting on the street like idiots. It’s what they do

24 freetoken  May 3, 2014 5:44:56pm

You mean, they actually eat at a “dinner”?

25 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:45:04pm

There’s a better one.

26 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 5:45:57pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

nope

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Separated at birth!?!?

Image: 101309_colmes_shaffer2_16_9.jpg

27 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 5:46:36pm

A great victory for tolerance and diversity has been achieved

How Condoleezza Rice’s Rutgers commencement appearance fell apart in 88 days

“I am honored to have served my country. I have defended America’s belief in free speech and the exchange of ideas. These values are essential to the health of our democracy. But that is not what is at issue here,” she said. “As a professor for thirty years at Stanford University and as (its) former provost and chief academic officer, I understand and embrace the purpose of the commencement ceremony and I am simply unwilling to detract from it in any way.”

Rice wished good luck to the Rutgers graduates.

28 freetoken  May 3, 2014 5:48:07pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

We missed you on the Sterling imbroglio.

29 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 3, 2014 5:48:45pm

If I were president, I would mandate a dress code of t-shirts and cargo shorts for this sort of thing.

30 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 5:49:07pm
31 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 5:49:34pm

re: #28 freetoken

We missed you on the Sterling embroglio.

Sterling Embroglio

I knew him

mom was English,, father, Italian

32 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 5:50:08pm

re: #25 jaunte

Devine lives!

33 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:50:39pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

Now, now.

34 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:51:03pm
35 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 5:51:18pm

re: #33 jaunte

I know. I already feel bad about it.

36 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:52:08pm

re: #34 jaunte

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I saw Wolf earlier in the photo line, waiting to hear someone say “where’s the PLANE?”

37 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:52:13pm
38 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 5:52:47pm
39 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:52:58pm
40 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 5:53:46pm

re: #37 jaunte

Those guys would be great in a Frankenstein remake.

Damn! I just don’t know what’s wrong with me tonight.

41 freetoken  May 3, 2014 5:54:03pm

Amazing at the crowd one can get when you hang out a sign that says “free food”.

42 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:54:25pm

re: #40 Skip Intro

Das Winklevoss.

43 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:54:34pm

re: #39 jaunte

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Can’t even tie his tie. Gotta keep the down homeishness up.

Such a fake. Being used by GOP as hate against gays. Nothing more.

44 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 5:54:57pm

re: #28 freetoken

We missed you on the Sterling embroglio.

Meh, I didn’t really follow that story enough to form a strong opinion. I really can’t find much reason to oppose the outrage on that one.

45 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 5:55:01pm

re: #41 freetoken

Amazing at the crowd one can get when you hang out a sign that says “free food”.

“but only if you don’t need it”.

46 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:55:50pm

hahahahahahahaha.

47 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:56:27pm

re: #41 freetoken

Amazing at the crowd one can get when you hang out a sign that says “free food”.

I think they pay big for this. Or their companies do, then write it off.

48 freetoken  May 3, 2014 5:56:44pm

I wonder if the hotel kitchen staff get minimum wage?

49 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 5:57:38pm

re: #48 freetoken

I wonder if the hotel kitchen staff get minimum wage?

How many have green cards?

50 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:57:46pm
51 freetoken  May 3, 2014 5:58:38pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

I think they pay big for this. Or their companies do, then write it off.

Maybe. Isn’t it put on by the little conclave called White House Correspondants’ Association ?

I’d assumed that they picked up the tab.

52 Floral Giraffe  May 3, 2014 5:58:38pm

You haven’t had bad food, until you go to a big event like this.
NOTHING is served properly, it’s all cold & you’re eating salad while the table next to you has finished desert!

53 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 5:59:34pm

re: #48 freetoken

I wonder if the hotel kitchen staff get minimum wage?

Heard a little blurb earlier. They work hard. Most change from the past was no more smoking, hard booze down (bottles per table) wine & sweet cocktails up.

Seniority gets the best service position. i.e. POTUS. See that server, probably with Hilton 40 years.

omg my life.

54 jaunte  May 3, 2014 5:59:57pm

Hey, is that Don Draper?

55 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:01:23pm

re: #54 jaunte

It’s amazing what gets past security.

56 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:01:49pm

re: #54 jaunte

Hey, is that Don Draper?

[Embedded image]

Not in any shape or form. Except for the Brylcreem. And Remember Don is in the 60-70’s. Not 20fucking14.

57 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:02:20pm

1/2 hour. Got time to go & get avocados.

58 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:03:21pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

1/2 hour. Got time to go & get avocados.

is that code for something!?!?

umm,, okay

The fat man sits on the park bench winking at squirrels!

59 freetoken  May 3, 2014 6:03:22pm

Well, this is captivating.

60 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:03:54pm

Anybody brought up Benghazi yet?

61 freetoken  May 3, 2014 6:04:41pm

Lots of hydrangeas in those flower arrangements?

Can’t really grok the color-thinking in this one.

62 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:04:45pm

re: #60 Skip Intro

Anybody brought up Benghazi yet?

Yes

Skip Intro in post # 60!

63 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:05:32pm

Before I even read the thread, I want to go on the record as saying the WHCD is one of the things I HATE with the heat of 1000 suns about the DC politico/media circle jerk.

Journalists shouldn’t be hosting such. They shouldn’t be socializing with politicians outside the office period. And the WH Correspondents Association (or whatever the formal name is) is utterly useless bunch of prima donnas preening because of their vaunted seats in the press room, which used to be a swimming pool (and is really tiny, at that).

64 klys  May 3, 2014 6:07:02pm

re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Before I even read the thread, I want to go on the record as saying the WHCD is one of the things I HATE with the heat of 1000 suns about the DC politico/media circle jerk.

Journalists shouldn’t be hosting such. They shouldn’t be socializing with politicians outside the office period. And the WH Correspondents Association (or whatever the formal name is) is utterly useless bunch of prima donnas preening because of their vaunted seats in the press room, which used to be a swimming pool (and is really tiny, at that).

We might be better served if it was turned back into a swimming pool.

65 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:07:51pm

re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling

But where to draw the line
We have journalists married to and related to politicians
We have politicians married to and related to execs of companies that lobby ,,, politicians

and on and on and on

66 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:08:04pm

re: #62 sattv4u2

Well, somebody had to. It’s the most pressing issue of the century.

67 freetoken  May 3, 2014 6:08:50pm

re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Rulers have always had their courtesans.

68 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:08:56pm

re: #66 Skip Intro

Well, somebody had to. It’s the most pressing issue of the century.

My pants need pressing too
Can you get to that soon also!!

69 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:10:03pm

re: #68 sattv4u2

My pants need pressing too
Can you get to that soon also!!

Sure. Where do you like the iron burns?

70 klys  May 3, 2014 6:10:24pm

re: #69 Skip Intro

Sure. Where do you like the iron burns?

I could recommend a decent location.

71 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:11:12pm

re: #69 Skip Intro

Sure. Where do you like the iron burns?

The way I played golf Tuesday, I’d like to burn my irons, as well as my putter and driver

72 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:13:31pm

re: #65 sattv4u2

Any journalist married to a politician should be reassigned to another beat nowhere near politics (I’m looking at you Andrea Mitchell).

Any politician married to a journalist should recuse him/herself from any legislation related to media, and should refuse coverage from his/her spouse.

For that matter, any self-respecting journalist who marries a politician should probably find another line of work, like P.R.

As for the politician/lobbyist thing, I have nothing to say about that. Most lobbyists could be scourged from K Street and I wouldn’t shed a single tear.

73 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:14:51pm

OK, now I see why this thread’s so dead. It’s just a video of people eating.

I hope everybody at the Duck Dynasty table said their prayers first.

74 freetoken  May 3, 2014 6:15:13pm

As riveting as watching people eat is, I think I’ll go for a walk.

75 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:15:15pm

re: #72 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’d take it a step further

How about no politician being able to work for a lobbying company or PR firm until 4 years after he/she leaves office

76 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:15:37pm

re: #74 freetoken

As riveting as watching people eat is, I think I’ll go for a walk.

why not go eat and let other people watch YOU !!!?

77 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:16:16pm

re: #75 sattv4u2

How about 1 year for every year he/she was in office? The political/lobbying revolving door is sickening.

78 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:17:24pm

re: #75 sattv4u2

Never happen. Free speech, you know.

Hey, how about a Supreme Court Justice who has a wife who’s a lobbyist? Any conflicts there?

79 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:18:37pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

Never happen. Free speech, you know.

Hey, how about a Supreme Court Justice who has a wife who’s a lobbyist? Any conflicts there?

Same as the one(s) I mentioned above

No better, no worse

80 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:19:51pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

I think there was actually a case he should have recused himself on a few years ago because she was lobbying on that issue. Of course the bastard didn’t do any such thing.

81 klys  May 3, 2014 6:21:11pm

re: #80 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I think there was actually a case he should have recused himself on a few years ago because she was lobbying on that issue. Of course the bastard didn’t do any such thing.

I guess we’ll just vote him out of office to express our displeasure! Same as any other politician!

///

82 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:22:29pm

re: #81 klys

I guess we’ll just vote him out of office to express our displeasure! Same as any other politician!

///

Even when “we” can, “we” don;t!!!

nytimes.com

83 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:23:26pm

re: #80 Rev_Arthur_Belling

My opinion is that a SC Justice, being one of only nine, has a hell of a lot more influence on the laws of this country than a politician who may only be one of 100 or 500+.

Of course, you might think that a SC Justice, having a lifetime appointment and not having to scramble for money would have higher standards of propriety.

Apparently not, though.

84 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:23:49pm

re: #81 klys

Ha! There was a post at Lawyers, Guns & Money the other day arguing that there should be some kind of restriction on SCOTUS justices’ service, because they usually don’t retire when they should (because of incapacitation due to senility or some other disability).

I’d be down with term limits on justices.

85 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:25:46pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

1/2 hour. Got time to go & get avocados.

Back! Good neighborhood.

86 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:25:57pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

You’ll get no argument from me on any of those points.

87 klys  May 3, 2014 6:30:13pm

re: #82 sattv4u2

Even when “we” can, “we” don;t!!!

nytimes.com

As is normal, it’s an article that is tangentially related to the topic at hand, mostly due to the phrase “conflict of interest.”

Although I agree that the effect lawmakers can have on companies that they may own stock in is one that should be addressed, it is a somewhat different one than the topic under discussion which primarily related to spousal conflict of interest.

(And, for the record, the bill under discussion a) died in committee and b) seems consistent with her overall positions.)

88 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:31:24pm

re: #86 Rev_Arthur_Belling

You’ll get no argument from me on any of those points.

But I paid for an argument!!

Youtube Video

89 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:32:56pm

re: #88 sattv4u2

No you didn’t. ;)

90 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:33:05pm

I thought I just saw Donald Sterling’s, uhh, personal assistant walk by in the background.

A guest of Barbara Walters?

91 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:33:14pm

Susan Rice getting Duck Dynasty dude’s autograph.

oh for fucks sake

92 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:33:41pm

Is Trump there?

93 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:35:11pm

Kumbaya. Maybe WE just don’t get it.

94 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:36:19pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

Is Trump there?

Arianna Huffington is. Jeez.

95 Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2014 6:36:59pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Susan Rice getting Duck Dynasty dude’s autograph.

oh for fucks sake

Maybe she enjoys duck hunting.

96 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 6:37:42pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Susan Rice getting Duck Dynasty dude’s autograph.

oh for fucks sake

It might surprise you to learn that these people DC don’t actually hate the other side. They just make a show of it to excite the rubes voters

97 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 6:38:35pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

Kumbaya. Maybe WE just don’t get it.

Now you’ve got it!

98 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:39:16pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

It might surprise you to learn that these people DC don’t actually hate the other side. They just make a show of it to excite the rubes voters

Exactically

They rub elbows WAY more than this once a year shindig

99 Varek Raith  May 3, 2014 6:39:25pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

You’re free to tolerate homophobes.
I won’t.
If that’s ‘hate’ in your book, then whatever man.

100 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 3, 2014 6:39:38pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

Some do, some don’t. There are quite a few of the teabagger caucus who genuinely hate the “Democrat party” politicians. I have no doubt of that.

Edit: And I truly believe Sally Quinn hated the Clintons.

101 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 6:41:11pm

re: #98 sattv4u2

Exactically

They rub elbows WAY more than this once a year shindig

The Clintons and Bushes get along just fine in real life

102 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:42:00pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

The Clintons and Bushes get along just fine in real life

Shhhh,,,,,,

103 klys  May 3, 2014 6:42:04pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

You’re free to tolerate homophobes.
I won’t.
If that’s ‘hate’ in your book, then whatever man.

Careful, that’s getting awfully close to infringing on their free speech.

Racism, however, is ok to speak out against. There is nothing wrong with outrage against companies and people using their free market veto on that. Just not homophobia and bigotry against gay people.

//

I’m sorry, the logic pretzel machine has failed. Please reboot and try again later.

104 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 6:44:43pm

re: #100 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Some do, some don’t. There are quite a few of the teabagger caucus who genuinely hate the “Democrat party” politicians. I have no doubt of that.

Edit: And I truly believe Sally Quinn hated the Clintons.

It happens but it’s thankfully rare

105 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 6:46:24pm
106 sagehen  May 3, 2014 6:47:01pm

So what do we think of Michelle’s dress?

107 Varek Raith  May 3, 2014 6:47:19pm

If only the Mozilla CEO wanted to ban marriage between blah people.
Only then we could protest him!
e_e

108 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 6:47:39pm

re: #106 sagehen

So what do we think of Michelle’s dress?

Outrageous!

109 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:48:44pm

THIS is the best part.

110 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 3, 2014 6:50:59pm

Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner confirming all the cynicism expressed in “House of Cards”…

111 Varek Raith  May 3, 2014 6:51:38pm

I can’t get it to stream.
Way to fail, Verizon.

112 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:52:48pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

113 Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2014 6:52:50pm

re: #106 sagehen

So what do we think of Michelle’s dress?

I say say its [insert appropriately flattering adjective]. :)

114 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:53:05pm

re: #111 Varek Raith

I can’t get it to stream.
Way to fail, Verizon.

Consult a urologist!

115 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 6:54:16pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

I can see they picked the wrong person to be the M.C.

116 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:54:37pm

re: #106 sagehen

So what do we think of Michelle’s dress?

Mrs Satty doesn’t like me thinking about dresses!

117 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:54:49pm

re: #115 Skip Intro

I can see they picked the wrong person to be the M.C.

:)

118 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:55:19pm

re: #106 sagehen

re: #116 sattv4u2

Mrs Satty doesn’t like me thinking about dresses!

No

Wait

Thats chasing skirts!

Nevahmond!!

119 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 6:59:32pm

re: #109 Stanley Sea

THIS is the best part.

No one watched the video. It was great history of the press corps.

120 sattv4u2  May 3, 2014 6:59:51pm

And on that note the long quiet drive home beckons!

121 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 7:01:28pm

So now it’s turned into the Academy Awards. “I wanna thank ……”

122 freetoken  May 3, 2014 7:08:11pm

Dean Martin roasts had lots less overhead.

123 Stanley Sea  May 3, 2014 7:10:01pm

This year, the White House Correspondents’ Association is celebrating its 100th anniversary, and it plans to posthumously honor the first African-American reporter to cover a presidential news conference.

That recognition is 70 years overdue.

npr.org

124 Skip Intro  May 3, 2014 7:11:02pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Freepers go ballistic.

“OH goody…we yet again get to hear it for the poor opressed black folks and women folk…..(Im gonna barf!)”

and

“Anyone keeping a count of “raysiss white boys” getting some free sh$t tonight?

I see mostly blacks, wymin, and a few other assorted minorities. Must be “reparations time” in the old town tonight.”

125 freetoken  May 3, 2014 7:11:51pm

I do wonder if in decades to come there will be a WHCA. I can easily imagine a future where a new President decides to open up press interviews to online sources only.

The current WHCA president mentioned he worked for McClatchy. They have had to fight off rumors of being bought. So many old time news organizations are already gone, and many that are left still have not secured a good business model in the new digital world.

126 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 3, 2014 7:22:32pm

“The Secret Service doesn’t let me drive off the property”

that was actually somewhat amusing

127 jaunte  May 3, 2014 7:25:33pm

“The lengths we have to go to to get CNN coverage these days.”
Boom.

128 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 7:32:30pm

“Orange really is the new black.” Heh.

129 sagehen  May 3, 2014 7:32:31pm

“Orange is the New Black.”

ETA:

aarrgh! One Second!!

You got some fast fingers there.

130 Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2014 7:33:12pm

re: #127 jaunte

“The lengths we have to go to to get CNN coverage these days.”
Boom.

All the president has to do is thank the US Navy for its efforts to find MH370 and CNN would come running.

131 William of Orange  May 3, 2014 7:33:26pm

“Orange is the new black”.

That was a good one!

Yes, that’s me, watching live from the Netherlands. It’s 4:30AM over here!

132 Dark_Falcon  May 3, 2014 7:34:25pm

re: #131 William of Orange

“Orange is the new black”.

That was a good one!

But enough about John Boehner…

133 William of Orange  May 3, 2014 7:35:57pm

Hahaaha!!!

The right wing and Putin.

134 Charles Johnson  May 3, 2014 7:39:26pm
135 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 3, 2014 7:39:59pm

Holy shit, given that Rick Perry’s property was called “n*****head Ranch” I was suddenly expecting that bit to play out differently than it did.

136 Gus  May 3, 2014 7:42:29pm

Boom!

137 Gus  May 3, 2014 7:44:08pm

Fat joke.

138 William of Orange  May 3, 2014 7:45:33pm

Is it me or is McHale bombing a bit?

139 sagehen  May 3, 2014 7:45:34pm

Kardashians are Republicans…

140 jaunte  May 3, 2014 7:45:47pm

Needs less McHale, more Obama.

141 Lancelot Link  May 3, 2014 7:48:02pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Aren’t those the bullies who stole MoreScience High School?

142 sagehen  May 3, 2014 7:50:24pm

When the baby is born, do we give Bill Clinton a cigar?

143 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 3, 2014 7:52:37pm

I’ve never heard of Joel McHale before tonight, but now I know that he sucks as a comic.

144 ninja cat  May 3, 2014 7:53:25pm

re: #138 William of Orange

Underwhelmed. Opened with a good zinger but I think several lines have been over the line.

145 allegro  May 3, 2014 7:57:11pm

re: #143 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I’ve never heard of Joel McHale before tonight, but now I know that he sucks as a comic.

That is being real generous. Who is this guy?

146 jaunte  May 3, 2014 7:58:35pm

Here’s something funny.

147 allegro  May 3, 2014 8:00:38pm

The only thing possibly worse than his jokes is his delivery.

148 William of Orange  May 3, 2014 8:05:15pm

Glad that’s over. Next time Colbert again please…

It’s 5AM here,

I’m off to bed. See ya.

149 jaunte  May 3, 2014 8:05:30pm
150 Pie-onist Overlord  May 3, 2014 8:09:01pm

Somebody is not amused.

151 Kragar  May 3, 2014 8:10:45pm

So dang hot here, wife didn’t feel like cooking. I dove into the fridge, pulled out some grilled mushroom chickens we had earlier in the week, diced it up with some green onions and other stuff and made us some omelets. Turned out pretty good.

152 sagehen  May 3, 2014 8:11:07pm

re: #146 jaunte

Here’s something funny.

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Gee… you’d think they could fire up the BBQ for some beef ribs….

153 klys  May 3, 2014 8:11:13pm

re: #151 Kragar

So dang hot here, wife didn’t feel like cooking. I dove into the fridge, pulled out some grilled mushroom chickens we had earlier in the week, diced it up with some green onions and other stuff and made us some omelets. Turned out pretty good.

There are not words for how grateful I am that the AC went in last year, although today finally cooled off.

154 Kragar  May 3, 2014 8:13:30pm

re: #153 klys

There are not words for how grateful I am that the AC went in last year, although today finally cooled off.

We’ve got AC, but don’t want to run it too much if we don’t have to.

155 klys  May 3, 2014 8:16:36pm

re: #154 Kragar

We’ve got AC, but don’t want to run it too much if we don’t have to.

I am currently home all the time and get cranky in the heat. It runs.

I don’t let him turn it down too much though.

156 klys  May 3, 2014 8:17:12pm

re: #155 klys

I am currently home all the time and get cranky in the heat. It runs.

I don’t let him turn it down too much though.

Also, it was a high of 95-97 three days this week. That gets up to 80+ in the house.

157 Killgore Trout  May 3, 2014 8:18:58pm

There has been outrage
Jeremy Clarkson: BBC gave me final warning

Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson says the BBC has told him he will be sacked if he makes “one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time”.

158 Kragar  May 3, 2014 8:21:27pm

That little bit of golden mushroom gravy left over in the omelet turned out pretty good.

159 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 8:23:30pm

re: #157 Killgore Trout

There has been outrage
Jeremy Clarkson: BBC gave me final warning

And then he’ll be brought back after Top Gear fans give them hell for the decision.

160 klys  May 3, 2014 8:23:50pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

And then he’ll be brought back after Top Gear fans give them hell for the decision.

It’s like the free market has an effect or something.

161 PT Barnum  May 3, 2014 8:23:55pm

re: #146 jaunte

Here’s something funny.

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Wonder if a reception is be ing planned.

162 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 8:29:12pm

re: #146 jaunte

Here’s something funny.

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LOL, what, all those rugged Real American™ manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?

163 jaunte  May 3, 2014 8:29:39pm

re: #162 CuriousLurker

Costco Commandos.

164 b_sharp  May 3, 2014 8:29:55pm

re: #162 CuriousLurker

LOL, what, all those rugged Real AmericanTM manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?

I don’t think the cows know how to pull the trigger.

165 klys  May 3, 2014 8:30:04pm

re: #162 CuriousLurker

LOL, what, all those rugged Real AmericanTM manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?

He’s not going to accommodate any freeloaders.

///

166 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 8:31:53pm

re: #162 CuriousLurker

LOL, what, all those rugged Real AmericanTM manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?

Hell, what about Bundy? They’re squatting on his land, shouldn’t he play good host and help cover their food costs?

167 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 8:37:39pm

How in the hell are they supposed to survive during this new civil war/revolution they have planned if they’re already running out of MREs after a couple of weeks and whining for handouts?

I wish they’d send the National Guard or whoever to roll up there in a heavily armored convoy complete with tanks & air cover to deliver them some MREs, just to watch them piss their pants.

168 jaunte  May 3, 2014 8:40:31pm

re: #167 CuriousLurker

They really aren’t too smart. One of the people out there ran out of gas on the way from NC (according to his twitter TL) some stranger in Texas gave him $200 to get to Nevada.

169 teleskiguy  May 3, 2014 8:41:31pm

Greetings Lizards.

Did my first mountaineering trek of 2014 today, on the south slopes of Mt. Sherman in CO. Don’t tell anyone, but I went the wrong way and did a summit of neighboring Mt. Sheridan. Oops.

Snow climbing was excellent. Half way up I was cursing myself for not bringing my skis.

170 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 8:41:57pm

Charles: I don’t know if you’re watching, but I just noticed that the HTML character entity for ™ is getting lost and turned into a plain old TM when the comment gets quoted. Same thing happens in the Spy.

171 klys  May 3, 2014 8:42:50pm

SPARKLE POWER.

172 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 8:42:57pm

re: #168 jaunte

They really aren’t too smart. One of the people out there ran out of gas on the way from NC (according to his twitter TL) some stranger in Texas gave him $200 to get to Nevada.

*facepalm*

173 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 8:44:29pm

re: #171 klys

SPARKLE POWER.

Nice!

174 klys  May 3, 2014 8:45:14pm

re: #173 CuriousLurker

Nice!

I got a needle threader. The sparkle thread is EVIL. But at least I’ve been able to move forward.

175 teleskiguy  May 3, 2014 8:50:59pm

I just noticed somewhere in my Twitter timeline something about Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court Roy Moore (the same zealot that wanted a stone cutout of the 10 Commandments in front of the court) saying something about how the first amendment to our Constitution only applies to Christians.

I. Just. Can’t.

176 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 8:55:01pm

re: #174 klys

I got a needle threader. The sparkle thread is EVIL. But at least I’ve been able to move forward.

Well, at least your women aren’t…

I get frustrated with the journaling stuff sometimes because of all the crafters and… gah. Glimmer mist, perfect pearls, faeries, butterflies, mermaids… Oh, and babies, they love those creepy tiny polymer clay dolls that look like babies, and the baby-shaped silicone fondant molds. Who in the hell wants to eat fondant that looks like a newborn baby?

177 klys  May 3, 2014 8:57:48pm

re: #176 CuriousLurker

Well, at least your women aren’t…

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I get frustrated with the journaling stuff sometimes because of all the crafters and… gah. Glimmer mist, perfect pearls, faeries, butterflies, mermaids… Oh and babies, they love those creepy tiny polymer clay dolls that look like babies, and the baby-shaped silicone fondant molds. Who in the hell wants to eat fondant that looks like a newborn baby?

One of my favorite designers is a …more art-deco style? So it at least avoids some of it.

Lord help me the day I start this pattern though.

178 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 9:06:40pm

re: #177 klys

One of my favorite designers is a …more art-deco style? So it at least avoids some of it.

Lord help me the day I start this pattern though.

Oh wow, that’s gorgeous. I love art nouveau & art deco—all the late 19th to early 20th century stuff—and the “golden age” illustrators like Edmund Dulac. The kinds of faeries those guys drew were amazing.

My favorite building in NYC the Chrysler.

179 klys  May 3, 2014 9:12:21pm

re: #178 CuriousLurker

Oh wow, that’s gorgeous. I love art nouveau & art deco—all the late 19th to early 20th century stuff—and the “golden age” illustrators like Edmund Dulac. The kinds of faeries those guys drew were amazing.

My favorite building in NYC the Chrysler.

THERE’S THE WORD I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING OF.

Cross stitching is funny because there really are a ton of different styles and everyone finds something that works for them but I definitely lean in that direction versus the old-style samplers or whatever.

Or babies. I definitely don’t stitch babies.

180 Mattand  May 3, 2014 9:13:37pm

re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Before I even read the thread, I want to go on the record as saying the WHCD is one of the things I HATE with the heat of 1000 suns about the DC politico/media circle jerk.

Journalists shouldn’t be hosting such. They shouldn’t be socializing with politicians outside the office period. And the WH Correspondents Association (or whatever the formal name is) is utterly useless bunch of prima donnas preening because of their vaunted seats in the press room, which used to be a swimming pool (and is really tiny, at that).

Agree 1000%.

181 Rightwingconspirator  May 3, 2014 9:17:52pm

This just In…

9:00pm Moon

May Nights Moon

Watermark witheld for the blog

182 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 9:24:26pm

re: #181 Political Atheist

This just In…

9:00pm Moon

May Nights Moon

Watermark witheld for the blog

Nice!

183 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 9:39:05pm

Okay, totally different subject before I call it a night. I was just checking to see if there was some setting that would let me change the default thumbnail size when searching with Google Images and I found this in the settings:

Um… NO.

The link goes to this page. NO, Google, I don’t want you to give me “private” results based on what you consider “relevant information” from my other Google products, nor do I want you to help me with any other damned thing, I just want you to return search results.

Yeah, I’m gonna worry about the NSA looking at my phone call meta data when Google & every other private company’s marketing department is up in my business all day every day. How many of those little “member” discount cards do you carry around? You know, the ones for the drug store, the grocery store, the pet supplies place, etc? Credit cards? Debit card? Library card? Those people know every damned intimate detail of your life, all they way down to how much toilet paper you use every month. Gah!

[/rant over]

184 CuriousLurker  May 3, 2014 9:42:44pm

Okay, if anybody’s still here, I’m out. Have a good night.

185 Rightwingconspirator  May 3, 2014 9:44:00pm

re: #184 CuriousLurker

Sleep well.

186 Lidane  May 3, 2014 9:48:17pm

Joel McHale is made for scripted TV like his show Community. He’s not a very good stand up comic at all. His delivery isn’t warm enough for live shows, IMO. It’s like going to see Bill Maher live. He’s good when he’s doing political humor but the rest of his jokes fall flat because he’s not funny beyond that.

I’ll watch POTUS do his bit later, but it seems like I didn’t miss much with Joel McHale.

187 Lidane  May 3, 2014 9:50:09pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

Hell, what about Bundy? They’re squatting on his land, shouldn’t he play good host and help cover their food costs?

They should offer to pay him back in 20 years.

188 Rightwingconspirator  May 3, 2014 10:03:41pm

Okay this shot just surprised me in post. Shot today in the Ojai Valley.

Same one in color-To me not such an interesting look at all

189 klys  May 3, 2014 10:08:00pm

re: #188 Political Atheist

It can really be mind-boggling, the difference in the shot between color and B&W.

I get to shoot in Ireland next week. Oh man.

190 Rightwingconspirator  May 3, 2014 10:11:21pm

re: #189 klys

It can really be mind-boggling, the difference in the shot between color and B&W.

I get to shoot in Ireland next week. Oh man.

Officially jealous here… Good for you!

We went out after condors and birds of prey. Where I could see birds, no parking, no vantage. Then I got to a good vantage. No birds. So I started messing with whatever was there. Whew drove 250 rt miles for that.

191 klys  May 3, 2014 10:16:09pm

re: #190 Political Atheist

Officially jealous here… Good for you!

We went out after condors and birds of prey. Where I could see birds, no parking, no vantage. Then I got to a good vantage. No birds. So I started messing with whatever was there. Whew drove 250 rt miles for that.

It’ll mostly be in Dublin; we’ll see what I find in the way of bus tours or whatever.

Also, Waterford. MUST GET TO WATERFORD.

On the black and white thing, I’ve posted this shot of OF before:

Old Faithful in B&W.

Here’s the same shot in color.

I much prefer the B&W.

192 darthstar  May 3, 2014 10:16:48pm
193 darthstar  May 3, 2014 10:17:08pm
194 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 3, 2014 10:22:07pm

I discovered a new way to make panoramas yesterday. Microsoft has a free tool called Image Composition Editor. I wanted to update a Wikipedia article with a new panorama of the university where I work. Microsoft’s ICE took my four shots and stitched them into one in just a few seconds. Here’s the result:
This is Jishou University, Jishou, China

Here’s the link to the ginormous size pano. Image: Panoramic_view_of_Jishou_from_Jishou_University.png

195 freetoken  May 3, 2014 10:27:08pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

Apparently there have been complaints from certain quarters about the BBC paying too much to on-air personalities. The BBC is looking to downsize their payroll, lowering salaries for the top presenters. To reach that end they are trying to push some of the older and more highly paid presenters out the door, the replacements for whom will be younger and get smaller salaries.

196 freetoken  May 3, 2014 10:34:01pm

MP3 Audio

197 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 10:47:25pm

re: #188 Political Atheist

Okay this shot just surprised me in post. Shot today in the Ojai Valley.

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Same one in color-To me not such an interesting look at all
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I like the color version because the depth of field seems more discernible. It’s striking.

198 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 10:58:39pm

200 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:26:31pm

vocabulary word of the morning:

Oobleck

Oobleck is a non-Newtonian fluid that behaves unlike other fluids. Flowing freely, it behaves as a regular liquid, but when a force is applied, it is more like a solid. If you pick oobleck up with your hands, it will easily flow through your fingers. If you squeeze or punch it, it will resist and feel like a solid. In large enough quantities, you can even walk on it! Oobleck can also dance to music, when spread out onto a sheet pan or plastic wrap and placed over a subwoofer. The pressure from the sound waves causes it to thicken as it moves.

For this experiment, you will need:

201 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 11:27:27pm

Gotta a derp-friend wingnut who’s absolutely convinced that reports of the militia running wild in Bunkerville are all lies. Says he won’t accept any report from the media because they’re “paid lying shills.”

202 Varek Raith  May 3, 2014 11:30:17pm

re: #201 Targetpractice

Gotta a derp-friend wingnut who’s absolutely convinced that reports of the militia running wild in Bunkerville are all lies. Says he won’t accept any report from the media because they’re “paid lying shills.”

Sigh.

203 Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2014 11:32:58pm

It’s early Sunday morning so I decided to go ahead and update the LGF Hymnal. Here are today’s selections:

Crown him with many clowns - The ballad of Glenn Greenwald

Come Thou Font of every Blessing

How great Thou aren’t - The Sarah Palin Song

It is well with my Code

204 Varek Raith  May 3, 2014 11:33:42pm

Updated firefox, hate the gui changes.

205 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 11:34:13pm

re: #202 Varek Raith

Sigh.

Yeah, won’t say why he thinks the whole things a fabrication, but he’s convinced it is. And won’t do anything keep stamping his food and demanding “proof,” though I know any proof I provide will just be written off. If I presented video of Bundy himself out there demanding to see IDs, he’d probably tell me that the video is obviously falsified.

206 Bubblehead II  May 3, 2014 11:40:18pm

Now 40 minutes into my 53rd year. Sigh.

Morning Lizards

207 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:44:02pm

Happy Birthday Bubblehead II!!!!!!!

208 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:44:28pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

Yeah, won’t say why he thinks the whole things a fabrication, but he’s convinced it is. And won’t do anything keep stamping his food and demanding “proof,” though I know any proof I provide will just be written off. If I presented video of Bundy himself out there demanding to see IDs, he’d probably tell me that the video is obviously falsified.

Ask him what “proof” he would accept?

209 freetoken  May 3, 2014 11:45:27pm

MP3 Audio

210 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:46:31pm

I’ve decided that for some people god = random chance.

They can’t accept that no matter how well they follow the rules bad things can happen to them for no apparent reason.

Therefore, there must be a god and he must have a plan.

211 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:46:53pm

re: #210 FemNaziBitch

I’ve decided that for some people god = random chance.

They can’t accept that no matter how well they follow the rules bad things can happen to them for no apparent reason.

Therefore, there must be a god and he must have a plan.

and they are at the center of it.

212 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 11:47:08pm

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

Ask him what “proof” he would accept?

Just did. I imagine that when I finally do get it an answer, it’ll be a lot of handwaving.

213 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:48:18pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

Just did. I imagine that when I finally do get it an answer, it’ll be a lot of handwaving.

I don’t want it to be true, so even if you buy me a plane ticket and drive me to the site of the event and I see with my own eyes, I’ll assume you have drugged me and I’m hallucinating!!!

214 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 11:48:37pm

re: #204 Varek Raith

Updated firefox, hate the gui changes.

It’s caused some sort of memory leak issue with my computer, so bad that I had to go into the config to turn off caching to memory and disk. And even that only looks like it strangles the leak, rather than fixing it. The other two computers in my house have updated without an issue, so I’m thinking it’s one of my extensions. But which one…that’s the tricky part.

215 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:49:10pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

It’s caused some sort of memory leak issue with my computer, so bad that I had to go into the config to turn off caching to memory and disk. And even that only looks like it strangles the leak, rather than fixing it. The other two computers in my house have updated without an issue, so I’m thinking it’s one of my extensions. But which one…that’s the tricky part.

macbook is sooooo much easier.

216 Targetpractice  May 3, 2014 11:49:49pm

re: #213 FemNaziBitch

I don’t want it to be true, so even if you buy me a plane ticket and drive me to the site of the event and I see with my own eyes, I’ll assume you have drugged me and I’m hallucinating!!!

I’m almost tempted to post a link to the Daily Kos diary that includes pictures of militia thugs “attending” a city council meeting and the police reports of threats made to the hotel that BLM agents stayed at during the roundup.

217 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:50:32pm

re: #216 Targetpractice

I’m almost tempted to post a link to the Daily Kos diary that includes pictures of militia thugs “attending” a city council meeting and the police reports of threats made to the hotel that BLM agents stayed at during the roundup.

This is really pissing me off.

who are the Jihadi thugs now?

218 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:51:17pm

So, they found confirmed another element (or something) #117?

Did I get that right?

219 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:53:31pm

Yes, I did.

2nd Vocabulary Word for the morning:

Ununseptium

Ununseptium is the superheavy artificial chemical element with temporary symbol Uus and atomic number 117. The element, also known as eka-astatine or simply element 117,

220 Bubblehead II  May 3, 2014 11:55:12pm

re: #218 FemNaziBitch

So, they found another element (or something) #117?

Did I get that right?

Yep and it lasts for only a few milliseconds.

Boffins confirm super-heavy Element 117 does exist - albeit briefly

221 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:56:10pm

re: #220 Bubblehead II

Yep and it lasts for only a few milliseconds.

Boffins confirm super-heavy Element 117 does exist - albeit briefly

Boffins! I love that word.

Yes, It’s all too much mathlikestuff for me, but the idea that there is still more to the world to be learned is a very cool thing.

I like it.

222 FemNaziBitch  May 3, 2014 11:58:42pm

Well, all, I have to be up in 4 hours for the annual MS walk. Team Oscar has reached it’s stretch goal of 10K which we didn’t think we’d do this year. We got over $2K in the last 3 days!

$10K is 2 months worth of MS drugs for someone without insurance.

Every little bit helps.

223 Floral Giraffe  May 3, 2014 11:59:11pm

re: #206 Bubblehead II

Now 40 minutes into my 53rd year. Sigh.

Morning Lizards

Happy birthday to you!
(Sung badly off key!!!)

224 Bubblehead II  May 4, 2014 12:02:15am

re: #221 FemNaziBitch

Boffins! I love that word.

Yes, It’s all too much mathlikestuff for me, but the idea that there is still more to the world to be learned is a very cool thing.

I like it.

I like reading the Reg. They tend to be , shall we say, irreverent while at the same time factual. Must be that dry British humour.

225 Bubblehead II  May 4, 2014 12:15:25am

Night Lizards.

226 freetoken  May 4, 2014 12:27:04am

Continuing on with Schnittke’s Requiem:

MP3 Audio

227 goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2014 1:01:24am

re: #191 klys

It’ll mostly be in Dublin; we’ll see what I find in the way of bus tours or whatever.

Also, Waterford. MUST GET TO WATERFORD.

On the black and white thing, I’ve posted this shot of OF before:

Old Faithful in B&W.

Here’s the same shot in color.

[Embedded image]I much prefer the B&W.

I reconverted the color to b&w, because flat imagery makes me sad. Also cropped it to get rid of the distracting fence rail, and made it square because it really wants to be square.

228 freetoken  May 4, 2014 1:03:57am

MP3 Audio

229 goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2014 1:21:03am

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

If you have pretty much any version of Photoshop made in the last decade there’s a really good easy to remember method for b&w conversion that gives you decent control over tonal relationships.

First make two hue / saturation adjustment layers.

On the top adjustment layer bring the saturation down to zero.

Play with the hue slider on the bottom adjustment layer. You’ll see the various parts of your black and white conversion change in relation to one another depending on the corresponding color hues in the original image. This essentially duplicates the use of traditional color filters on the camera without having to alter exposure.

The nice thing about this method vs. more sophisticated tools like the channel mixer or selective color layers is that it’s very quick and intuitive, you don’t have to think about the colors, you just stop the slider where you think the best overall image is.

230 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 1:27:36am

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

I really need to learn how to use PS better. You just taught me a new thing.

231 Fineday  May 4, 2014 2:18:06am

Happy birthday, Bubblehead!

232 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 4:11:08am

Since it’s Sunday and I knew no one would be here, I read the whole blog.

WHCD not interesting and jokes here were probably better.

And the chick and the egg omelet sounds delicious, Kragar. : )

Now, time to make a small one for breakfast.

233 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 4:22:57am

re: #194 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

This is really weird, but the ICE link is 404. Even searching with Google, all the links are 404. Hmm.

234 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:10:37am

I’ve had to go into Charlotte 2 days, Fri and Sun. I noticed far more motorcycles, “crotch rockets”, mopeds and bicycles on the road there who have to share the road. Although there are bicycle lanes in many places, the mopeds and other motorized 2 wheelers share the same lanes as autos, of course and Charlotte is one of those “sprawling” metros. I was mainly on the eastside of Charlotte, but most cars seemed to be 5 yrs old or older; saw very few really late model, or new vehicles. I don’t think these days too many people can afford both a house and car payment, and used cars are in demand. They are around here, also.

I think the economy over the past dozen years has managed to establish a very large lower working class of people who struggle to keep up and aren’t being helped by those “titans of capitalism” who seek only to increase their own coffers. Used goods are also in demand; the thrift stores are always crowded. The lower working class are renting apts or buying used mobile homes in lots tucked within the city limits (skirting middle class suburban enclaves), actually cheaper than renting in many cases. You can buy one of those that are covered under City regs for less than $10K, and pay a tiny lot rent of about $300/mo. I know this because my ex-DIL just did it, paying $4K for a 2BR, 1-1/2 bath. Her total pmt is around $600 for both the lot rent and trailer (and that will be paid off in about 4 yrs).

I’d rather rent and let someone else take care of repairs and the landscaping, and now just look for collectibles. Sat I scored 4 Johnson Bros fruit dishes that are probably 50-60 yrs old (pattern was from 1954 to 1965) and they’re in excellent shape. $2 for the lot. Like everything else, this venerable old English company was bought by Wedgewood in 1966 and now all of what’s left of its brand is made in China now—1,000 jobs were lost in Stoke.

235 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:10:57am

re: #233 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What OS are you using?

236 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 5:15:26am

re: #235 Justanotherhuman

Mac. This is the first search result in Google:

research.microsoft.com

237 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:17:09am

re: #233 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This is really weird, but the ICE link is 404. Even searching with Google, all the links are 404. Hmm.

Maybe this would help (scroll down a bit).

blogs.msdn.com

238 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:24:35am

re: #236 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Mac. This is the first search result in Google:

research.microsoft.com

This should be the download for your MAC:

download366.com

ETA: I got that download here (scroll down): en.softonic.com

239 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 5:32:25am

Good morning lizards!

How about some Eagle to start the day?

Youtube Video

240 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:36:21am

Good summary of happenings in Ukraine.

Video: Anger and frustration in Ukraine amid unrest in Odessa

france24.com

241 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 5:43:24am

re: #233 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This is really weird, but the ICE link is 404. Even searching with Google, all the links are 404. Hmm.

Works for me. research.microsoft.com

242 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:44:03am

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

How about some Eagle to start the day?

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Video

Don Henley reminds me physically too much of my ex-husband (who doesn’t sing).

243 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:47:19am

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

How about some Eagle to start the day?

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How about some Linda instead?

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244 Bubblehead II  May 4, 2014 5:51:59am

Here’s some Patti Page.

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245 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 5:53:40am

re: #241 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

404

This is what I see in chrome. Address:
research.microsoft.com

Edit: It’s no big deal, I was just curious about the software. I probably wouldn’t use it, but I have some photographer friends who might find it useful.

246 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 5:59:01am

re: #244 Bubblehead II

Here’s some Patti Page.

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Pure 50s. I remember her well. : ) I was 9 when this came out.

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247 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 6:05:57am

re: #244 Bubblehead II

Here’s some Patti Page.

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Back at ya with Nancy Sinatra

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248 Bubblehead II  May 4, 2014 6:11:44am

re: #246 Justanotherhuman

Pure 50s. I remember her well. : ) I was 9 when this came out.

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I grew up with her music as well as many of the old greats. Hank Sr. Ernest Tubb, Johny Cash, etal. Didn’t really get into R&R until the late 70’s early 80’s

249 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 6:18:07am

Sometimes all you need is just a guitar….

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250 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 6:19:13am

re: #247 NJDhockeyfan

Back at ya with Nancy Sinatra

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Raise you a Patsy Cline…

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251 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 6:28:40am
252 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 6:32:50am

re: #251 NJDhockeyfan

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In what strength, I wonder? With the Crimea gone, Ukraine cannot afford to lose Odessa. If the pro-Russia forces take any major government buildings there, the Ukrainian government is going to have to take them back, regardless of how Putin may use such an action.

253 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 6:39:25am

re: #250 Justanotherhuman

Raise you a Patsy Cline…

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Loretta Lynn…

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254 Sionainn  May 4, 2014 6:39:39am

Good morning, Lizards!

I’m wondering if I’m misremembering this. Way back in September of 2012, wasn’t there a video posted here in Libya of attackers at the consulate claiming that they were protesting the video? If there was, would someone please help me out with a link? I can’t find it in my search. Thanks!

255 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 6:40:30am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

In what strength, i wonder? With the Crimea gone, Ukraine cannot afford to lose Odessa. If the pro-Russia forces take any major government buildings there, the Ukrainian government is going to have to take them back, regardless of how Putin may use such an action.

Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.

256 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 6:52:50am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

In what strength, I wonder? With the Crimea gone, Ukraine cannot afford to lose Odessa. If the pro-Russia forces take any major government buildings there, the Ukrainian government is going to have to take them back, regardless of how Putin may use such an action.

It’s not looking good. They took over without a fight and freed their comrades.

257 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 6:59:14am
258 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 6:59:37am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.

Ukraine can’t do without a port, Killgore and they’re not just going to concede their entire coastline. Over Odessa, they’ll fight, even though they can’t win a stand up fight. Because being choked to death is worse than going down in a hail of gunfire.

259 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 7:04:39am

And moreover, Russia doesn’t need Odessa. Sevastopol is the main port for the Black Sea Fleet and between it and Novorossiysk Russia already has two major ports on the Black Sea.

260 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:11:15am

re: #245 Rev_Arthur_Belling

404

This is what I see in chrome. Address:
research.microsoft.com

Edit: It’s no big deal, I was just curious about the software. I probably wouldn’t use it, but I have some photographer friends who might find it useful.

That’s weird. I click the link you included, and the page comes up fine. Can you get to research.microsoft.com?

261 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:15:40am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.

Why does Putin need Odessa? For that matter, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian Federation? He’s got plenty of territory already, and he should get the hell out of Crimea.

Are you some kind of Putin apologist? Or is Ukraine an “expendable” country, like, say, Austria, Poland or Czechoslovakia were in the 1930s?

262 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 7:15:44am

re: #260 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Even weirder, here’s what I get when I go to the link you just posted.
Error page

An error page itself isn’t that big a deal, but the fact that you were able to access it and I’m getting an error page - that’s weird.

Maybe MS doesn’t like me. :)

263 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:17:22am

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

And moreover, Russia doesn’t need Odessa. Sevastopol is the main port for the Black Sea Fleet and between it and Novorossiysk Russia already has two major ports on the Black Sea.

He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.

264 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:17:57am

re: #262 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Well, I get that, too, now. So you can at least get to the index page. I don’t understand why the link to ICE is not working for you, though.

265 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 7:18:25am

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.: ‘I would rather pass comprehensive immigration reform than win the elections in November’ - @upwithsteve
end of alert

266 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 7:18:36am

On an OT note, I checked my “Karma” just now and somewhere over the weekend, I crossed 1,000! Not sure what that means, and nowhere near some of the Karma levels of the other commenters here, but thanks for making a n00b feel welcome.

267 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:19:45am

re: #263 Killgore Trout

He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.

I repeat, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian borders? Russia has plenty of ports already.

268 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 7:20:05am

re: #265 Justanotherhuman

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.: ‘I would rather pass comprehensive immigration reform than win the elections in November’

Sadly, thanks to GOP intransigence and gerrymandering, she probably won’t get either.

269 NJDhockeyfan  May 4, 2014 7:20:47am

Today is Audrey Hepburn’s birthday

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270 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:20:47am

re: #261 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Why does Putin need Odessa? For that matter, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian Federation? He’s got plenty of territory already, and he should get the hell out of Crimea.

Are you some kind of Putin apologist? Or is Ukraine an “expendable” country, like, say, Austria, Poland or Czechoslovakia were in the 1930s?

I’m very much opposed to Putin’s expansionism but I’m also opposed to making threats and red lines that we aren’t going to enforce. Obama says military options are not on the table and nobody thinks sanctions are going to dissuade Putin. Maybe the next administration will have better ideas but I’m not seeing any good options here.

271 andres  May 4, 2014 7:22:07am

re: #267 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I repeat, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian borders? Russia has plenty of ports already.

To force Ukraine into their fold once again?

272 darthstar  May 4, 2014 7:22:24am
273 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:23:12am

re: #263 Killgore Trout

He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.

Taking all of southern Ukraine for a land route would cut off Odessa from the rest of Ukraine anyways. Either way, Kiev loses Odessa.

274 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 7:24:01am

re: #263 Killgore Trout

He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.

That makes no sense. If he wants to send supplies to Transnistria, he could get that without fighting. Attacking Odessa guarantees that things will get very ugly, since its not something Ukraine can accept.

275 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 7:26:41am

This is hilarious:
Julia Louis-Dreyfuss and Joe Biden promo:

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276 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 7:27:14am

re: #270 Killgore Trout

I’m very much opposed to Putin’s expansionism but I’m also opposed to making threats and red lines that we aren’t going to enforce. Obama says military options are not on the table and nobody thinks sanctions are going to dissuade Putin. Maybe the next administration will have better ideas but I’m not seeing any good options here.

The US may still have the largest share of the world’s wealth (even though people like us don’t get it), but that doesn’t mean that we’re the policemen of the world, either.

I think Europe and NATO have a bigger stake in what’s going on than the US, and they would be the obvious defenders of Ukraine. The US can help with “boots on the ground” only as a part of NATO, not an individual country. Otherwise, we can send Ukraine equipment and supplies, as much as we wish.

277 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:27:43am

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Well, then rephrase your statements to reflect this opinion. Saying Putin needs Odessa or southern Ukraine connotes approval of his expansionism. Putin doesn’t need Odessa. He wants Odessa. That’s a big difference.

.

278 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:29:10am

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

That makes no sense. If he wants to send supplies to Transnistria, he could get that without fighting. Attacking Odessa guarantees that things will get very ugly, since its not something Ukraine can accept.

It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.

Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”

“They have their own opinions about their fate. Democracy let them live as they want. We should continue negotiations with Moldova, Transnistria. We should lift the blockage from the Transnistrian region,” he said.

279 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:32:34am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Anschluss

Just sayin’

280 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 7:35:26am

Everyone is so sick of war, no one wants to get involved outside of the country in conflict.

281 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 7:39:02am

re: #280 Justanotherhuman

Everyone is so sick of war, no one wants to get involved outside of the country in conflict.

Amen.

Well, everyone except one Kilgore Trout, LGF member.

I think. I am not sure. I am only guessing. Maybe.

Is that clear?

: )

282 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 4, 2014 7:42:00am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.

What does Putin need Odessa for, Killgore?

283 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 4, 2014 7:43:01am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.

Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”

Obviously trade routes are worth starting invasions that destroy your international credibility when it comes to upholding treaties and dealing with trading partners.

If that were actually Putin’s reasoning, he’d be a deeply stupid man, which I don’t think he is.

284 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:43:41am

re: #280 Justanotherhuman

Everyone is so sick of war, no one wants to get involved outside of the country in conflict.

Agreed, recent polling shows that US public opinion is against international involvement. A war with Russia over it’s expansion would be very unpopular.

285 Bubblehead II  May 4, 2014 7:43:44am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.

Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”

Did you even bother to read the FIRST link you provided? Because the way I read it, it’s a win/win for everybody except Russia and smugglers

It should be noted that the registration process for Transnistrian businesses in Chisinau is free of charge and that all import / export duties are paid to the Transnistrian administration.

This I think is the real reason this shit is going down.

Moldova has been able to achieve the partial economic reintegration of Transnistria.

And this is something Putin doesn’t want to happen.

* Edited for clarity

286 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 4, 2014 7:45:16am

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Agreed, recent polling shows that US public opinion is against international involvement. A war with Russia over it’s expansion would be very unpopular.

War with Russia would be fucking stupid beyond belief, and nobody except the most insane assholes actively thinks it should happen.

287 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:47:53am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

This I think is the real reason this shit is going down.

Moldova has been able to achieve the partial economic reintegration of Transnistria.

And this is something Putin doesn’t want to happen.

Agreed. When Putin takes Transnistria he may annex it or leave it as a semi-autonomous region but the taxes and duties will go to Moscow via his “customs union” thing he’s putting together.

288 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 7:48:13am

More proof that those “pro-Russians” in eastern Ukraine are a blend of reactionary types (such as the ‘baggers in the US) and Russian provocateurs.

Meet the self-proclaimed ‘people’s mayor’ of Ukraine’s Slaviansk

france24.com

I really don’t see how Ukraine could function as a democracy at all while its leaders, like Yanuk, were taking direction from Russia and enriching themselves at the same time. A veil of fascism remains over Ukraine at the moment, which would take years and a number of reforms to make democracy a real feature of the country. “Democratic” elections don’t ensure that; they’re just elections and can always be manipulated by those who want to maintain power, as we’re seeing in country after country.

289 Romantic Heretic  May 4, 2014 7:49:10am

re: #206 Bubblehead II

Now 40 minutes into my 53rd year. Sigh.

Morning Lizards

Is that all? ;)

Happy Birthday.

290 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:52:08am

re: #287 Killgore Trout

Agreed. When Putin takes Transnistria he may annex it or leave it as a semi-autonomous region but the taxes and duties will go to Moscow via his “customs union” thing he’s putting together.

Sounds like the 18th century Stamp Act and similar tariffs. Tax the colonies to enrich the crown, as it were.

291 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 7:54:28am

Happy, happy birthday, Bubblehead! : )

292 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:56:19am

re: #290 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Sounds like the 18th century Stamp Act and similar tariffs. Tax the colonies to enrich the crown, as it were.

Yup. The weird thing is most of the properties Putin is absorbing into his tax union are pretty shitty economies on their own. I don’t understand the economics of it but I assume the Russians have some plan to make this all work out for them. Maybe the plan is just as simple as milking these shitty economies dry, enriching Moscow while leaving them to rot.

293 Romantic Heretic  May 4, 2014 7:57:02am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.

I believe we’ll have to sooner or later. I don’t believe that Putin will stop short of The English Channel. He needs conflict with ‘Enemies of The Motherland’ to remain in power. If he stopped Russians would realize how badly he’s fucked up their country, and he’d suffer the same fate as the Romanovs.

So, he’s always going to be spoiling for a fight.

294 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 7:59:31am

President Bill Clinton will join tour of tornado damage Sunday

Read more: 4029tv.com
(snip)

“Clinton will join the Secretary of Homeland Security, Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe and Senator Mark Pryor to survey the damage and get an update on recovery in Faulkner County.

“President Obama is schedule to visit the area Wednesday, in his first visit to Arkansas since being elected president.”

295 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 4, 2014 8:04:28am

re: #290 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Sounds like the 18th century Stamp Act and similar tariffs. Tax the colonies to enrich the crown, as it were.

This totally has nothing to do with anything, but the Stamp Act is actually fascinatingly convoluted. Basically, the UK kept a big standing army, but Parliament didn’t like having it in the UK in case a Napoleon type situation occurred or a crisis between the monarchy and the parliament. So most of the troops were garrisoned throughout the empire. The US didn’t actually need as many troops as it had to defend against American Indians, the British campaigns probably just inflamed problems and most actual indian attacks were beaten back by Colonial forces. This is complicated by Britain and France using the US as a proxy battlefield, but it was mostly Britain as the aggressor.

The Stamp Act was part of a series of taxes to get the Americans to pay for these troops, even though they were mostly just part of the political favor system in Britain; it was a good place to stick lower sons of the nobility and for middle-class guys looking to get ahead to get some service time. So it didn’t really wind up enriching the crown, but it enriched the people selling commissions.

The Americans didn’t like this shit first because of economic reasons, it was a big admin cost as well as the direct cost of the ‘stamp’, and most of the British manufacturers didn’t like it because it lowered their exports to the colonies and raised overhead for those that had invested in stuff in America. It later became important as an actual ‘constitutional’ issue for the Americans.

The Stamp Act was basically something that benefitted a certain narrow class (the officer class) and was opposed by a lot of other British interests. It got repealed in 1766, but the power to enact such taxes didn’t get repealed, so the Americans who had agitated against it weren’t satisfied by just repeal.

296 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 8:25:00am

re: #295 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

—snip—

The Stamp Act was part of a series of taxes to get the Americans to pay for these troops, even though they were mostly just part of the political favor system in Britain; it was a good place to stick lower sons of the nobility and for middle-class guys looking to get ahead to get some service time.

I’ve learned recently that it is common in China for government officials to buy commissions in the PLA. This entitles them to wear a middle rank officer’s uniform, and I presume, to gain some additional economic benefits. When my friend told me he had just bought himself a colonel-ship in the PLA, I thought he was joking. He wasn’t.

A nation that uses its military to gain social status has serious social problems.

297 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 8:31:59am

Yeah, I’m a victim of watching Meet The Press again. However, I’m kind of glad I did watch today. They have Will I. Am as part of their round table panel today, and I have to give it to him. He is doing a good job and is making more sense with his questions to the panel than Jason Chaffetz is with the answers. He asked about health care and why that is even an issue and Chaffettz went and mentioned Obamacare.

Immediately Anita Dunn, Fmr. White House Communications Director jumped in and said that she understands Will I. Am’s question and how Chaffetz’s answer goes to Will I. Am’s frustration as a younger communicator with politics. She rightly pointed out that Will I. Am’s question was about Washington doing something through politics, but Chaffetz’s answer was just pure party politics and that is what it has done what Will I. Am called the younger peoples frustration and turn-off and disconnect.

Good stuff. I wonder if the larger point made in that exchange got through Chaffetz? Probably not.

And Will I. Am just closed the show with a nice comment about last evenings White House Correspondents dinner. He said there were politicians and a lot of “Celebriticians”…and Gregory cut the show with everyone chuckling.

I think Will I. Am has a good political future, should he go down that road. He impressed me and I am glad he is active in his community and working to help inner city kids turn it around.

298 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 9:09:06am

Where are you?

299 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:10:23am

re: #298 b_sharp

Where are you?

physically?

meta-physically?

financially??

spiritually!?!?!?

I’M SO CONFUSED!!!

300 kirkspencer  May 4, 2014 9:11:17am

re: #298 b_sharp

Where are you?

Here. Why aren’t you?

301 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 9:11:29am

re: #293 Romantic Heretic

I believe we’ll have to sooner or later. I don’t believe that Putin will stop short of The English Channel. He needs conflict with ‘Enemies of The Motherland’ to remain in power. If he stopped Russians would realize how badly he’s fucked up their country, and he’d suffer the same fate as the Romanovs.

So, he’s always going to be spoiling for a fight.

I’m starting to think that might be a possibility.

302 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 9:11:45am

re: #298 b_sharp

Where are you?

I’m on the sidelines. I thought I broke the innerwebs!

303 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:14:13am

re: #298 b_sharp

re: #300 kirkspencer

Here. Why aren’t you?

And when you do get here,,,, bring beer ,,,, and bbq’d wings ,,,

304 Targetpractice  May 4, 2014 9:17:11am

re: #298 b_sharp

Where are you?

What do you want?

/(geek moment)

305 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:17:46am

My list of things TO DO Today

Mow the front lawn
Spray weed-eater at the entrance of our sub-division
Give one of the dogs a bath
Grocery shop
2nd coat of wood sealer on the back steps

Things that WILL get done off the list

Grocery shop

(hey,, ya gotta eat!!!)

306 Lidane  May 4, 2014 9:20:10am
307 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 9:21:11am

re: #293 Romantic Heretic

I don’t believe that Putin will stop short of The English Channel.

Are you being serious here? I can’t see Putin going after Denmark, Germany or France. But maybe my geography is rusty.

308 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:21:37am

re: #304 Targetpractice

What do you want?

/(geek moment)

Τι θέλεις?

/(Greek moment)

309 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 9:22:42am

re: #301 Killgore Trout

I’m starting to think that might be a possibility.

Didn’t you also start to think that back when there were the first hints Putin was going to make a move on Crimea?

Why do I get the feeling what you are really concerned with is how bad this could all possibly look for President Obama and how you hope it affects Hillary come 2016?

Add in the Kerry outrage from last week and it looks like that is the real motivation.

All of course couched in your confusion over what it is you really think. Don’t you think you and all the members here would be better served with you just coming out and saying it? Then we cold at least debate your position instead having to walk through the mud(dle).

Maybe I’m wrong?

310 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 9:22:44am

re: #299 sattv4u2

physically?

meta-physically?

financially??

spiritually!?!?!?

I’M SO CONFUSED!!!

You look it.

311 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 9:22:59am

re: #300 kirkspencer

Here. Why aren’t you?

I got lost.

312 Stanley Sea  May 4, 2014 9:23:54am

Happy birthday Bubblehead!

313 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 9:24:05am

re: #303 sattv4u2

And when you do get here,,,, bring beer ,,,, and bbq’d wings ,,,

Brought the beer, but not the wings.

I brought ham and pineapple pizza instead.

Mushrooms on half.

314 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:25:17am

re: #307 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Are you being serious here? I can’t see Putin going after Denmark, Germany or France. But maybe my geography is rusty.

Hyperbole, I think

I think he (Putin) has his eyes on carving out parts of “old” territories the former USSR had

I said yesterday, eastern Ukraine (draw a line just about straight down north to south from the furthest southeast corner of Belarus down to Odessa)

315 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:25:49am

re: #313 b_sharp

Brought the beer, but not the wings.

I brought ham and pineapple pizza instead.

Mushrooms on half.

BE GONE, HEATHEN!!

316 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 9:26:12am

re: #309 ObserverArt

Maybe I’m wrong?

Probably.

317 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 9:26:13am

re: #307 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Are you being serious here? I can’t see Putin going after Denmark, Germany or France. But maybe my geography is rusty.

I think maybe the English Channel reference was just an example meaning that Putin isn’t going to stop doing whatever the hell he is doing until he is finished and not stop at some border or obstacle he could easily jump.

318 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 9:27:01am

re: #316 Killgore Trout

Probably.

But maybe not entirely.

319 andres  May 4, 2014 9:27:07am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.

Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”

You know who else decided their fate by themselves? Crimea, with Russian guns on their heads.

321 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 9:28:48am

re: #319 andres

You know who else decided their fate by themselves? Crimea, with Russian guns on their heads.

They probably would have approved the referendum anyways. The guns and vote rigging was just a bonus.

322 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:29:35am

re: #309 ObserverArt

I think we’re all confused, concerned and pretty much clueless as to what Putins end game is.
I don;t think the Bush admin had a handle on it, and I believe this admin is in the same quandary.

323 bluebonnetbunny  May 4, 2014 9:32:12am

Everything that is wrong with the White House Correspondents Dinner, David Gregory and Meet The Press explained in one short video Youtube Video from the 2006 WHCD.
NBC didn’t need to hire psychologists to find out why the ratings for Meet The Press are collapsing. This video tells the tale.

324 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 9:33:12am

re: #320 Killgore Trout

Rising Russian Intelligence Activity in Hungary

He also has an excellent and reasonable post on Benghazi
Ground Truth About Benghazi

The White House today finds itself in an awkward place of its own creation. What could have been a brief, manageable scandal has now become an extended one that may dog the administration for the rest of its second term, while trashing Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential ambitions to boot. Mainstream media outlets are no longer burying the story, and the White House ought not expect a pass anymore, particularly as reporters generally sympathetic to the administration are calling it out for its dishonesty over Benghazi. For this, the White House, again, has nobody to blame but themselves.

I hope the American public learns the truth about what happened at Benghazi, why, and what came in its aftermath, both in Libya and in Washington, DC. There are more than academic questions at play here. Truth and justice, by no means always the same thing in our nation’s capital, deserve an audience. I especially hope that the coming investigation avoids excessive partisanship of the sort so many Americans, including this one, feel is corroding our entire political system, but I’m not overly optimistic on that point, given the recent track record of both parties. I’ll settle for knowing what really happened to Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods - and why.

325 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 4, 2014 9:37:25am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

That post about Benghazi is not reasonable at all. Just because he throws a “avoid partisanship” disclaimer in at the end doesn’t mean it’s “reasonable.” It’s retread GOP bullshit.

326 makeitstop  May 4, 2014 9:37:57am

Smells like troll in here this morning.

327 Rightwingconspirator  May 4, 2014 9:41:48am

re: #314 sattv4u2

Hyperbole, I think

I think he (Putin) has his eyes on carving out parts of “old” territories the former USSR had

I said yesterday, eastern Ukraine (draw a line just about straight down north to south from the furthest southeast corner of Belarus down to Odessa)

We have a young mom neighbor. Ukrainian. Pro Putin. She has been an interesting person to chat with about a lot of this. And reading up on NATO expansion, may or may not be a factor in Putins actions. Did we break a deal to not expand NATO? Gorbachev says yes, academics say no. Those Warsaw pact populations did it on their own for economic reasons and Putin would of course never blame the west for that… Back and forth

c-span.org

nationalinterest.org

foreignpolicy.com

nytimes.com

328 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 9:42:29am

re: #326 makeitstop

Smells like troll in here this morning.

Sorry, my stomach is upset and I have bad gas.

329 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:44:00am

re: #328 b_sharp

Sorry, my stomach is upset and I have bad gas.

I told you to get the higher octane

330 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 9:44:42am

speaking of bad gas ,,, ANOTHER thing on the To Do list

Tune up the riding mower

331 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 9:50:32am

re: #330 sattv4u2

speaking of bad gas ,,, ANOTHER thing on the To Do list

Tune up the riding mower

I still need to finish planting my quinoa then clear out a spot for borlotti beans. My goal this year is to not have the neighborhood’s tallest dandelion. I’ll be happy with second or third place.

332 Rightwingconspirator  May 4, 2014 9:53:30am

Historical Flashback-My added bold of course. It may add something to the discussion about Ukraine.

Yeltsin Opposes Expansion Of NATO in Eastern Europe
By ROGER COHEN,
Published: October 2, 1993

President Boris N. Yeltsin, apparently under pressure from his armed forces, has sent a letter to President Clinton opposing any expansion of NATO to include East European nations like Poland or the Czech Republic, Western diplomats said today.

Sent after President Yeltsin dissolved Parliament on Sept. 21 and embarked on a collision course with members opposed to his reforms, the letter amounts to sharp retreat from the position the Russian leader outlined during a visit to Warsaw in August. At the time he expressed understanding of Poland’s desire to join NATO and said it did not threaten Russian interests.

“Yeltsin calls it an elaboration of his position, but I’d describe it as furious backpedaling,” one diplomat who has seen a copy of the letter said. Clinton Undecided

NATO officials said that while debate on the issue of expanding the NATO alliance had been intense in Washington in the last month, President Clinton had not made up his mind on the question.

333 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 9:54:07am

re: #331 Killgore Trout

I still need to finish planting my quinoa then clear out a spot for borlotti beans. My goal this year is to not have the neighborhood’s tallest dandelion. I’ll be happy with second or third place.

I use this. Organic, and I know it’s there all the time.

Image: 0003068486565_180X180.jpg

334 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 9:56:58am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

I use this. Organic, and I know it’s there all the time.

Image: 0003068486565_180X180.jpg

If you throw a handful of that in the garden it’ll grow. The leaves are very tasty too.

335 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 9:57:27am

I’d say he’d better watch his back, if comments I’ve read are any indication.

Report: Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder - @BBCBreaking
end of alert

336 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 10:03:11am

I have my grandbaby here today. Boy does he demand attention. I can’t go more than 5 minutes without him asking (without words) for me to play on the floor with him.

He’s two years old now and he still isn’t talking. I’m convinced he’s autistic like his older brother and I’m hoping he’s as high functioning as well.

337 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 10:08:05am

re: #335 Justanotherhuman

I’d say he’d better watch his back, if comments I’ve read are any indication.

Report: Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder - @BBCBreaking
end of alert

What’s being said? I haven’t caught too much about the story since they nabbed him the other day.

338 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 10:09:15am

Damn it.

Circus performers injured during show

turnto10.com

“Providence Fire and Rescue are responding to the Dunkin Donuts Center where an unknown number of circus performers fell from rafters during a show Sunday afternoon.

“Multiple rescues are being called to the scene to transport performers to the hospital.

“An NBC 10 news crew is en route and will have the latest on turnto10.com and NBC 10 News at 6.”

Image: Bmzn5VyIEAAI3b3.jpg

339 Dr Lizardo  May 4, 2014 10:10:18am

re: #298 b_sharp

Where are you?

No matter where you go, there you are.

340 jaunte  May 4, 2014 10:10:19am
341 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 10:11:21am

re: #338 Justanotherhuman

Damn it.

Circus performers injured during show

turnto10.com

“Providence Fire and Rescue are responding to the Dunkin Donuts Center where an unknown number of circus performers fell from rafters during a show Sunday afternoon.

“Multiple rescues are being called to the scene to transport performers to the hospital.

“An NBC 10 news crew is en route and will have the latest on turnto10.com and NBC 10 News at 6.”

Image: Bmzn5VyIEAAI3b3.jpg

Not good. That means kids were witnesses.

342 Dr Lizardo  May 4, 2014 10:11:39am

re: #335 Justanotherhuman

I’d say he’d better watch his back, if comments I’ve read are any indication.

Report: Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder - @BBCBreaking
end of alert

Indeed. In my personal opinion, Mr. Adams is up to his neck in all manner of things from the era of The Troubles.

343 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 10:12:56am

re: #339 Dr Lizardo

No matter where you go, there you are.

Thank you Buckaroo.

344 blueraven  May 4, 2014 10:13:18am

re: #336 b_sharp

I have my grandbaby here today. Boy does he demand attention. I can’t go more than 5 minutes without him asking (without words) for me to play on the floor with him.

He’s two years old now and he still isn’t talking. I’m convinced he’s autistic like his older brother and I’m hoping he’s as high functioning as well.

Perhaps. But my son barely spoke until he was 2.5 years old. I was very concerned and would express that to our pediatrician. He told me to wait a bit and see. Then about that time he started speaking in complete sentences. He is 22 now and has always had an excellent vocabulary beyond his years.

345 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 10:13:42am

re: #337 ObserverArt

What’s being said? I haven’t caught too much about the story since they nabbed him the other day.

Just comments from various people who hate Sinn Fein and him, I suppose.

Sinn Féin accused of ‘blackmailing’ PSNI over Gerry Adams

bbc.com

346 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 10:16:47am

re: #331 Killgore Trout

I still need to finish planting my quinoa then clear out a spot for borlotti beans. My goal this year is to not have the neighborhood’s tallest dandelion. I’ll be happy with second of third place.

yeah

My goal this summer was to not have to do all the mowing and weed spraying ,, BUT, ,, my son just told me he’s spending the summer at a friends apartment up near school where he just got a job offer. He’ll come home “some weekends” to help me out (says he) but I’m sure they’ll mostly be spent going to see old friends at night and sleeping all day!!

347 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 10:19:57am

re: #340 jaunte

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So, I’m assuming most are ex-Soviet era?

348 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 10:22:20am

re: #345 Justanotherhuman

Just comments from various people who hate Sinn Fein and him, I suppose.

Sinn Féin accused of ‘blackmailing’ PSNI over Gerry Adams

bbc.com

Thanks for the link. The further link in the story is pretty good too. It’s about “Who were the ‘Disappeared’?” And that link breaks off into a whole slew of others on the individual stories. I’m gonna put that in the ‘must read’ bookmarks folder.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen too much on that back in the day much of this was going on. Of course, I was also just out of high school and readying for college…and America had enough of its own political crap going on with Viet Nam, Watergate, etc.

349 jaunte  May 4, 2014 10:24:12am

re: #347 Justanotherhuman

Three are 55 and under, so fairly young.

350 missliberties  May 4, 2014 10:25:39am

re: #325 Rev_Arthur_Belling

That post about Benghazi is not reasonable at all. Just because he throws a “avoid partisanship” disclaimer in at the end doesn’t mean it’s “reasonable.” It’s retread GOP bullshit.

More like….

The select Committee to smear Hillary…

351 jaunte  May 4, 2014 10:27:44am

re: #325 Rev_Arthur_Belling

That post about Benghazi is not reasonable at all. Just because he throws a “avoid partisanship” disclaimer in at the end doesn’t mean it’s “reasonable.” It’s retread GOP bullshit.

Watching the hearings on CSPAN this morning, it’s pretty obvious that the GOP members are trying to get the witnesses to conform to their preferred narrative, even when facts don’t permit.

352 ObserverArt  May 4, 2014 10:33:15am

re: #346 sattv4u2

yeah

My goal this summer was to not have to do all the mowing and weed spraying ,, BUT, ,, my son just told me he’s spending the summer at a friends apartment up near school where he just got a job offer. He’ll come home “some weekends” to help me out (says he) but I’m sure they’ll mostly be spent going to see old friends at night and sleeping all day!!

I give you credit for remembering how things were when you were younger. I’m not a parent, but it does seems sometimes some parents forget they were kids and how they thought then. You have the real view.

And now…off to stripping a bunch of old white oak woodwork pulled from my hallway. Got a lot to strip and it is beautiful, but has been through the inner city slum-landlord years. It’s too bad too, since it is all quarter-sawn and has the most interesting striping running through it. I figure, even if it has it’s gouges and scrapes and holes, all cleaned up, sanded and stained with a nice clear gloss varnish it is still going to look great.

When I get it done. This part is so, well…gooey, smelly and just sucks. Yuck. Luckily it is only a combination of what appears to be shellac with a coat or two of varnish on top of that.

I still wonder what the hall and staircase must have been like when new. I had a guy that made me some new replacement pocket doors tell me, my front entrance and staircase would fetch some major money if taken out and sold in a place like San Francisco.

353 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 10:36:58am

re: #352 ObserverArt

I give you credit for remembering how things were when you were younger. I’m not a parent, but it does seems sometimes some parents forget they were kids and how they thought then. You have the real view.

Thanks

Wifeys non too happy that her “baby” won;t be here all summer but as I told her (and stated above) he’d be shuttered in his room asleep most of the day and out with friends (or over their houses,, or them over here) so we really wouldn’t see much of him anyway

This way, he earns some money, puts another notch on his resume pre-graduation, and what we DON’T see won;t bother us!!!

354 Gus  May 4, 2014 10:37:06am
355 Charles Johnson  May 4, 2014 10:42:22am

re: #354 Gus

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What the fuck.

356 Gus  May 4, 2014 10:43:17am

re: #355 Charles Johnson

What the fuck.

Abby Martin and Max Blumenthal’s friend.

357 jaunte  May 4, 2014 10:43:36am

re: #354 Gus

Rania “Too many Jews at The Nation” Khalek.

358 Sionainn  May 4, 2014 10:46:08am

re: #336 b_sharp

I have my grandbaby here today. Boy does he demand attention. I can’t go more than 5 minutes without him asking (without words) for me to play on the floor with him.

He’s two years old now and he still isn’t talking. I’m convinced he’s autistic like his older brother and I’m hoping he’s as high functioning as well.

Is it just the not talking that makes you think that? Just wondering because my daughter didn’t really speak until just after her 3rd birthday. She watched a lot of “Signing Time” on PBS, so she used signs and facial expressions to communicate with us.

359 Gus  May 4, 2014 10:47:01am

re: #357 jaunte

Rania “Too many Jews at The Nation” Khalek.

She then went on a rant listing her grievances. Of course they included DRONES!

360 Rightwingconspirator  May 4, 2014 10:47:54am

re: #346 sattv4u2

Looks like you might just hire some other local kid to earn some summer cash. That’s not all bad.

361 Charles Johnson  May 4, 2014 10:51:30am

Conor Friedersdork has another ridiculous article about DRONES today, I see.

These people are just play-acting. If they really believed the shit they say, they’d be hiding out and living in abject fear, not writing articles for the Atlantic and posting asinine tweets.

362 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 10:51:52am

re: #358 Sionainn

Is it just the not talking that makes you think that? Just wondering because my daughter didn’t really speak until just after her 3rd birthday. She watched a lot of “Signing Time” on PBS, so she used signs and facial expressions to communicate with us.

History of autism in the family and several other telltales from my other grandson’s childhood.

363 sattv4u2  May 4, 2014 10:52:28am

re: #360 Political Atheist

Looks like you might just hire some other local kid to earn some summer cash. That’s not all bad.

Yeah. The heavy-lifting stuff. The other stuff, I don’t mind. I have a riding mower for the backyard and right side of the driveways front of the house. Directly in front of the house the landscape is too “sculptured” for the rider so I have a regular lawn mower and I may hire someone to shove that around. Carrying the 4 gallon tank sprayer is a pain in the neck (and back, literally) so I would farm that out too

364 Sionainn  May 4, 2014 10:54:46am

re: #362 b_sharp

History of autism in the family and several other telltales from my other grandson’s childhood.

Got it. Hope you are correct, then, in that he is high functioning. My 22-year-old nephew was finally diagnosed as autistic at age 17, after being diagnosed his whole life as having ADD and being medicated for it. He’s super smart and did very well in school. I just wish his diagnosis had been made when he was very young. There are skills that he could have and should have been working on to help him through life.

365 jaunte  May 4, 2014 10:57:44am

re: #361 Charles Johnson

He must be watching you.

“…*An earlier version of this article erroneously called the aircraft a drone.”

366 wrenchwench  May 4, 2014 11:01:16am

Matt Bors is also a fan of hers.

367 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 11:04:54am

re: #364 Sionainn

Got it. Hope you are correct, then, in that he is high functioning. My 22-year-old nephew was finally diagnosed as autistic at age 17, after being diagnosed his whole life as having ADD and being medicated for it. He’s super smart and did very well in school. I just wish his diagnosis had been made when he was very young. There are skills that he could have and should have been working on to help him through life.

My daughter was diagnosed late, but my grandkid was diagnosed early enough that he attended special class throughout school and is doing quite well now.

368 Gus  May 4, 2014 11:09:10am

re: #366 wrenchwench

Matt Bors is also a fan of hers.

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Oh well. No loss when it’s people you never liked in the first place. :D


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