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1 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 5:44:49pm

Why not?

2 Charles Johnson  May 4, 2014 5:48:55pm

France’s fascist National Front party is getting disturbingly frisky again.

npr.org

MP3 Audio

3 Kragar  May 4, 2014 5:50:40pm

I had almost forgotten the sweet joy of playing Imperial Guard

4 Pie-onist Overlord  May 4, 2014 5:53:08pm

This Stupid Wingnut Meme Again
SO WHERE DID ALL THE MONEY COME FROM?
Oh yeah taxes.

5 darthstar  May 4, 2014 5:54:26pm

Greetings lacerti…

Enjoying a nice weekend in Lake Tahoe with my wife. Got in a couple of hours of skiing yesterday and today, closed up our ski lease for the season, took a nice hike yesterday, then came around to the south shore for a night at my sister’s house. Taking the missus to the top of Harrah’s for dinner at Friday’s Station (nice steak/seafood place)…celebrating her coming promotion.

Be good to each other.

6 Pie-onist Overlord  May 4, 2014 5:54:31pm

Oh and This Stupid Meme Again
Why are they using a photo from a factory that shut down in 1958?

7 Stanley Sea  May 4, 2014 5:56:54pm

re: #5 darthstar

Greetings lacerti…

Enjoying a nice weekend in Lake Tahoe with my wife. Got in a couple of hours of skiing yesterday and today, closed up our ski lease for the season, took a nice hike yesterday, then came around to the south shore for a night at my sister’s house. Taking the missus to the top of Harrah’s for dinner at Friday’s Station (nice steak/seafood place)…celebrating her coming promotion.

Be good to each other.

Throw 20 on black for me.

8 Charles Johnson  May 4, 2014 5:58:29pm
9 Justanotherhuman  May 4, 2014 6:01:38pm

What really happened in Odessa: A step-by-step reconstruction of a tragedy that killed 46 people (VIDEO)

kyivpost.com

10 Kragar  May 4, 2014 6:01:50pm

re: #4 Pie-onist Overlord

This Stupid Wingnut Meme Again
SO WHERE DID ALL THE MONEY COME FROM?
Oh yeah taxes.

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All you need is one word: Tariffs

Tariffs were the main source of all Federal revenue from 1790 to 1914. At the end of the American Civil War in 1865 about 63% of Federal income was generated by the excise taxes, which exceeded the 25.4% generated by tariffs. In 1915 during World War I tariffs generated only 30.1% of revenues. Since 1935 tariff income has continued to be a declining percentage of Federal tax income.

The U.S. Constitution of 1789 gave the federal government authority to tax, stating that Congress has the power to “… lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.” and also “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.” Tariffs between states is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution, and all domestically made products can be imported or shipped to another state tax-free.

11 Stanley Sea  May 4, 2014 6:06:57pm

Micheners Kent State book not in apple store. ?!?!!!!

Will find/request at library.

Dammit ready to read tonight.

12 freetoken  May 4, 2014 6:13:16pm

The triple reverse summersaults that the religious right has to do at times to convince themselves to not think too deeply about things is quite amusing.

This is a long story and I’m not going to take the time to fill it all out, but a few days ago Murdoch’s WSJ ran a screaming headline:

How the ‘Jesus’ Wife’ Hoax Fell Apart

Subtitle is:

The media loved the 2012 tale from Harvard Divinity School.

Which is pretty indicative. Anyway, the author is Jerry Pattengale, and as noted at the bottom:

Dr. Pattengale is executive director of the Green Scholars Initiative, with appointments at Indiana Wesleyan University and other institutions.

For those who didn’t know, the Hobby Lobby Greene family, one of them in particular, went out (and apparently still does) and spent a lot of money buying up all sorts of ancient documents, big and fragmentary. Their goal is to set up a giant museum for the Bible on the National Mall, or somewhere close to it. Pattengale heads up their scholarly division of their vision.

Anyway, yes, the “Wife of Jesus” fragment has many problems, as I’ve gathered by all that has been written about widely in more scholarly outlets than the WSJ.

What Pattengale is doing is subtle, though. He’s trying to avoid answering the uncomfortable reality about the NT, which is that all of the Gospels are not history, written after the fact, and the earliest existing copies for a great part of the NT are not even near the 2nd century but much later. Only a few tiny papyri fragments from the late 1st or early 2nd century have every been found.

The attack on Harvard is part of the strategy too, because the more the Greenes and their attendants can throw mud at the secular scholars the more they can keep the true believers confused about the scholarship of the past several centuries that have picked apart the Bible so well.

13 Kragar  May 4, 2014 6:14:11pm
14 freetoken  May 4, 2014 6:22:00pm

In case it’s not obvious, here is Pattengale’s (and Green’s) agenda, from the last paragraph:

It is perhaps understandable that Ms. King would have been taken in when an anonymous owner presented her with some papyrus fragments for research. What is harder to understand was the rush by the media and others to embrace the idea that Jesus had a wife and that Christian beliefs have been mistaken for centuries. No evidence for Jesus having been married exists in any of the thousands of orthodox biblical writings dating to antiquity. You would have thought Thomas Aquinas might have mentioned it. But this episode is not totally without merit. It will provide a valuable case study for research classes long after we’re gone and the biblical texts remain.

15 Decatur Deb  May 4, 2014 6:26:15pm

re: #12 freetoken

Snip…

The attack on Harvard is part of the strategy too, because the more the Greenes and their attendants can throw mud at the secular scholars the more they can keep the true believers confused about the scholarship of the past several centuries that have picked apart the Bible so well.

The theology isn’t settled.

16 freetoken  May 4, 2014 6:27:06pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I find Fargo to be the most engaging drama on American television since Breaking Bad finished.

17 Skip Intro  May 4, 2014 6:28:41pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

The theology isn’t settled.

Naw, that’s science.

Theology was perfect from day one. Still is, too, except for people who are on the fast train straight to hell.

18 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 6:29:16pm

re: #12 freetoken

The assumption that Jesus never married nor even had a girlfriend supports a whole world of Christian practices and beliefs, Catholic celibacy being one notable one. If there were evidence he was married, or that Mary Magdalene were his main squeeze, the Church would have suppressed it ages ago.

[ADDED: So, Aquinas could hardly be expected to reveal any evidence that Jesus had had a wife.]

That said, the Church could not have possibly found every bit of evidence, or spurious manuscript. It’s not like they had a search engine during the 4th century.

For literalists, anything that would contradict the 100% True and Accurate Gospels is automatically rejected as false, despite (as you say) the shaky reliability of those Gospels. Ditto, evolution, modern geology and cosmology, and the utter lack of archaeological evidence for much of what is contained in the OT and NT.

Which leads to the question, would it really make a difference to the core teachings of Jesus if he had been married? I would say not at all, but I am neither a literalist nor a believer in his Divinity, since I don’t believe there is a God. YMMV.

19 William Barnett-Lewis  May 4, 2014 6:34:26pm

re: #18 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

My feeling is that he almost certainly was married during the period before the public ministry began. To be a Jewish man, learned enough to be called Rabbi, he almost certainly would have been married. What happened? Death came early and often in those days. I’ve often wondered if he didn’t start his walk to the Jordan and his relative John because of the loss of his family, wanting to find meaning after that loss.

Yet another reason to give thanks for the blessing of vaccination in our time.

20 freetoken  May 4, 2014 6:34:54pm

re: #18 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Which leads to the question, would it really make a difference to the core teachings of Jesus if he had been married?

Well, you see, you’ve still got lots of presumptions loaded just in there.

1) What makes you think the “Jesus” of the NT existed?
2) Or at least existed as is believed by many today?
3) What makes you think that even if such a person/persons existed, that there were teachings, or that the teachings that were recorded later are accurate?

This is like peeling an onion. There are many layers.

But that is what Pattengale and Green don’t want - they don’t want the modern criticism to gain any more traction in society, that would detract from the Magick.

21 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 6:35:01pm

re: #6 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh and This Stupid Meme Again
Why are they using a photo from a factory that shut down in 1958?

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I think you should read this, since it concerns Detroit:

Detroit’s Message to Investors
By Steven Malanga

When emergency financial manager Kevyn Orr filed his plans in late February to lift Detroit out of bankruptcy, his proposals drew fire from the municipal-finance industry. Investors, bond insurers, ratings analysts, and industry groups all balked at his terms. That’s not surprising, since Orr, a private-sector restructuring expert, has used the Detroit bankruptcy to try to overturn years’ worth of precedent in municipal finance.

Even before Detroit went bankrupt, Orr made it clear that he would attack sacrosanct practices. Last June, he castigated holders of Detroit’s general-obligation bonds—traditionally considered among the safest kinds of municipal borrowing—for investing in the city for a decade, even as it went broke “openly and notoriously,” in his words. Though the usual assumption is that general-obligation bonds have the “full faith and credit” backing of a city or state, Orr said, he would regard Detroit’s bonds as unsecured—and he warned investors that they’d see deep cuts in any structuring plan. “They understood the risk,” he said.

Orr used the unprecedented threat of treating general-obligation bonds like unsecured debt as a negotiating tool, which prompted the backers of those bonds to agree to significant concessions in the face of his threats to repay them just 15 cents on the dollar. They’re now going to let the city divert some $26 million in city revenues they are owed to help pay off other Detroit debts, including pension obligations. Orr’s successful negotiating ploy means buyers of general-obligation municipal bonds will never quite feel as secure as they once were, especially when it comes to purchasing the debt of struggling cities.

It’s a pretty text-dense piece, but its worth reading as Malanga documents aspects of Orr’s approach to resolving Detroit’s bankruptcy likely to alarm both left and right.

22 Shiplord Kirel  May 4, 2014 6:40:14pm

Good bye, Micro-Satan, at least your Win-doze time stealing division. I downloaded a new version of Ubuntu today, after losing another half hour of computer time to an unauthorized Micro-shit evil update. For about the third time I thought I had turned automatic update off, but there it was when I powered my computer back on, ready to drone on for perhaps hours while it configured the latest dis-service pack. It did go on for 20 minutes before I pulled the plug (I know, hell on hard drives but this is drastic action to prevent theft and harassment by demonic flying monkeys in the pay of the antichrist himself, Bill Gates). I had to wait several minutes while the evil computer genie reverted the changes it had allegedly made. I am only here now, still trapped by win-doze, because Ubuntu files seem to take an inordinate amount of time to simply burn onto a suitable disk. Hmmm.

23 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 6:41:29pm

re: #20 freetoken

Well, you see, you’ve still got lots of presumptions loaded just in there.

1) What makes you think the “Jesus” of the NT existed?
2) Or at least existed as is believed by many today?
3) What makes you think that even if such a person/persons existed, that there were teachings, or that the teachings that were recorded later are accurate?

This is like peeling an onion. There are many layers.

But that is what Pattengale and Green don’t want - they don’t want the modern criticism to gain any more traction in society, that would detract from the Magick.

QFT. It’s been the SOP for the holders and keepers of Magick from prehistorical times — a handy way to keep the masses under control.

Jesus could be purely literary character, like Herakles or Don Quijote, or a heavily embellished version of a historical figure, like King Arthur or Gilgamesh. We really have no way of knowing for sure. That’s where faith comes in — for believers, anyway.

24 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 6:42:11pm

Jonah Goldberg just keeps hacking away:

But what hasn’t been discussed is what all of this talk about “KGB tactics” suggests about the past, and our understanding of it. Anyone roughly my age or older (“Ah yes, you are the measure of man!” — The Couch) probably remembers how the Soviets and their defenders used to bend and manipulate logic, facts, and truth to make it seem like there was a plausible case that the Soviet Union had the better economic and social model. But what is less well-remembered among older folks and completely unknown to most younger folks is the damage done by the Soviets to our understanding of the world.

For instance, the Soviets are the foremost authors the idea that “Zionism equals racism.” They championed this idea without any regard for the truth, never mind any concern about the evils of racism — the Soviet regime was remarkably racist (as was Marx himself, and their fight against racism was entirely tactical). Many of the old-guard Palestinian leadership were weaned on Soviet propaganda. Mahmoud Abbas has a Ph.D. from Moscow’s Patrice Lumumba University (stop laughing!). His thesis: “The Other Side: the Secret Relationship Between Nazism and Zionism.” The Soviets — and other Communist regimes — cultivated front groups who spread lies about how the American government created AIDS, distributed crack in inner cities, and countless other stories that still survive in America and abroad as vague half-truths, urban legends, and secrets “no one wants you to know.” Not everyone who spread this stuff was a paid propagandist. Many didn’t even know anyone was pulling their strings, and if they did know, many wouldn’t care because they assumed the Communists were the good guys.

And those are just the crazy left-wingers. Countless liberals still embrace various ideas that are the diluted legacy of Soviet and Marxist slander. As I argue (I’d even say demonstrate) in Liberal Fascism, the whole idea that Communism and fascism have absolutely no common intellectual heritage or other meaningful similarities is wholly a product of Soviet (and at times Nazi) propaganda (that the Putinistas are trotting out the “we’re a popular front against fascists” talking point is quite revealing). Stalin’s theory of social fascism was a propaganda tool. It didn’t become any less of one because a lot of decent, mainstream liberals bought into it. To the contrary, it proved how successful that propaganda effort was.

The italics are in the original piece, but the bolding is mine. Years have gone by, but Goldberg keeps coming back to that book he wrote. He thinks it strengthens his case on the issue he’s talking about now, but what it really does is cripple it.

25 William Barnett-Lewis  May 4, 2014 6:44:51pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Jonah Goldberg just keeps hacking away:

The italics are in the original piece, but the bolding is mine. Years have gone by, but Goldberg keeps coming back to that book he wrote. He thinks it strengthens his case on the issue he’s talking about now, but what it really does is cripple it.

He has no other achievement to his name so he’s forced to keep going back to that sad little piece of self hatred.

26 freetoken  May 4, 2014 6:44:56pm

The UK is more conservative in some ways than we might think. Especially the BBC:

Strictly Come Dancing to make TV history as Tess Daly and Claudia Winkleman take over from Bruce Forsyth

And it is good news for Claudia Winkleman, 42, who will be 45-year-old Tess’ co-presenter, making them the first all-female pairing to host a prime-time Saturday night show.

Believer or not, there are commenters over there still saying the show needs a male host.

27 Stanley Sea  May 4, 2014 6:45:59pm

re: #18 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Which leads to the question, would it really make a difference to the core teachings of Jesus if he had been married? I would say not at all, but I am neither a literalist nor a believer in his Divinity, since I don’t believe there is a God. YMMV.

It should not matter at all. Except the Christians of today do not follow the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Any way shape or form.

28 goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2014 6:46:10pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

Good bye, Micro-Satan, at least your Win-doze time stealing division. I downloaded a new version of Ubuntu today, after losing another half hour of computer time to an unauthorized Micro-shit evil update. For about the third time I thought I had turned automatic update off, but there it was when I powered my computer back on, ready to drone on for perhaps hours while it configured the latest dis-service pack. It did go on for 20 minutes before I pulled the plug (I know, hell on hard drives but this is drastic action to prevent theft and harassment by demonic flying monkeys in the pay of the antichrist himself, Bill Gates). I had to wait several minutes while the evil computer genie reverted the chances it had allegedly made. I am only here now, still trapped by win-doze, because Ubuntu files seem to take an inordinate amount of time to simply burn onto a suitable disk. Hmmm.

After 15 years of obstinate refusal to take my advice my Dad finally caved and bought a new iMac. He’d been dreading the transition forever, thinking he’d have to learn everything over again. Took less than a week to get him to where there were no more questions, and this is a man who questions every pointless little thing. I don’t even think he realized how much time he was wasting dealing with bullshit Windows problems, or how much of my time he was wasting on them when he couldn’t figure them out. Now when I see his name on caller ID I don’t cringe.

29 freetoken  May 4, 2014 6:46:53pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Jonah Goldberg - the man who called Leonard Nimoy a “pornographer.”

Jonah’s latest article is a BENGHAZI!! article, like the rest of the no-mind desperate-for-eyes right wing pundits, hoping to ride on the train that Faux engine has pulled for several years now.

30 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 6:47:25pm

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

What really happened in Odessa: A step-by-step reconstruction of a tragedy that killed 46 people (VIDEO)

kyivpost.com

That’s a pretty good rundown and is more or less what I saw watching the live stream. One incident missing is a professional soldier without insignias (I assume Russian) stabbed or shot a protester in the neck. Police captured the soldier guy and ripped off his mask. The crowd kept beating him, police tried to protect him. I still haven’t seen follow up on that, what happened, who was the soldier, etc.

31 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 6:47:26pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

You’re luckier than I am. My laptop’s CD/DVD burner stopped working a couple of years ago. So I’ve got a nice ISO of Ubuntu sitting on an external drive, with no way at the moment to burn a disc. For the nonce, Win7 is working well for me, despite the annoying tendency to perform updates when I least expect them. I’ve reacquired my habit of saving all my work before I go to bed, because there’s no guarantee Windoze won’t reboot overnight.

I also had turned off automatic updates. Hah. Silly me to expect I had control over my own laptop.

32 Stanley Sea  May 4, 2014 6:48:37pm

re: #25 William Barnett-Lewis

He has no other achievement to his name so he’s forced to keep going back to that sad little piece of self hatred.

Like his mama. Learn the grift, live the grift.

33 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 6:50:07pm

re: #25 William Barnett-Lewis

He has no other achievement to his name so he’s forced to keep going back to that sad little piece of self hatred.

I’m curious; Why is Liberal Fascism a work of self-hatred in your view?

34 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 6:52:18pm

re: #31 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

You’re luckier than I am. My laptop’s CD/DVD burner stopped working a couple of years ago. So I’ve got a nice ISO of Ubuntu sitting on an external drive, with no way at the moment to burn a disc. For the nonce, Win7 is working well for me, despite the annoying tendency to perform updates when I least expect them. I’ve reacquired my habit of saving all my work before I go to bed, because there’s no guarantee Windoze won’t reboot overnight.

I also had turned off automatic updates. Hah. Silly me to expect I had control over my own laptop.

Run it in a VM.

35 William Barnett-Lewis  May 4, 2014 6:58:55pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I’m curious; Why is Liberal Fascism a work of self-hatred in your view?

Pretending that fascism is a left wing ideology so he can pretend that all antisemitism is from the left rather than from the right wing. He comes across to me, as being unable to accept that his far right beliefs - and I believe he holds very extreme beliefs - are incompatible with his Judaism. About the only way it could be worse would be for him to be one of the open Jewish neo-nazi’s that pop up on rare occasion. On that he’s still closeted.

It could just be grifting as Stanley Sea suggests, but I find if far more convincing that he’s simply trying to find psychological cover for the cognitive dissonance he’d otherwise have to face up to.

36 goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2014 7:00:04pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I’m curious; Why is Liberal Fascism a work of self-hatred in your view?

Probably because actual historical fascism arose in Italy from an extreme corporatist conservative movement, who’s ideals of government existing to serve business interests and preserve traditional culture are largely identical to the modern GOP and American conservative policies.

37 Pie-onist Overlord  May 4, 2014 7:03:45pm

re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis

Pretending that fascism is a left wing ideology so he can pretend that all antisemitism is from the left rather than from the right wing. He comes across to me, as being unable to accept that his far right beliefs - and I believe he holds very extreme beliefs - are incompatible with his Judaism. About the only way it could be worse would be for him to be one of the open Jewish neo-nazi’s that pop up on rare occasion. On that he’s still closeted.

It could just be grifting as Stanley Sea suggests, but I find if far more convincing that he’s simply trying to find psychological cover for the cognitive dissonance he’d otherwise have to face up to.

I have noticed a tendency among some Orthodox Jews to embrace the right wing because they think that evangelical Christians “respect” them.

They are flattered by evangelicals and don’t understand they are only being used.

38 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 7:05:31pm

re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis

I dunno, I’ve never seen him as far-right. Conservative, yes, but not crazy. Liberal Fascism did eventually force me to classify him as a fool, though.

39 William Barnett-Lewis  May 4, 2014 7:09:22pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Probably because actual historical fascism arose in Italy from an extreme corporatist conservative movement, who’s ideals of government existing to serve business interests and preserve the existing culture are largely identical to the modern GOP and American conservative policies.

That brings up one other important point - Spanish & Italian fascism is far more useful to modern far right. It provides a framework that is welcomed all too easily by the scared, unthinking and easily propagandized folks that make up a big chunk of the right wings voting block.

It’s seems like a good time to link to Umberto Eco’s Ur-Fascism again:

40 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:10:32pm

re: #34 b_sharp

If I had enough space on my HD, I would. That’s my other problem. I should have partitioned my HD five years ago when I bought this computer.

41 Whack-A-Mole  May 4, 2014 7:11:12pm

re: #31 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Run/install it from a thumbdrive:

pendrivelinux.com

42 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:12:35pm

re: #41 Whack-A-Mole

Run/install it from a thumbdrive:

pendrivelinux.com

I’ve considered that. Thanks for the link.

43 William Barnett-Lewis  May 4, 2014 7:13:05pm

re: #41 Whack-A-Mole

Run/install it from a thumbdrive:

pendrivelinux.com

Had to do that with an older Dell to get Xubuntu (my preferred version. Hate Unity with a passion) as it only has a CD-R not a DVD-R & 13.x went over a cd in size. Works a treat from a cheap 4gb thumb drive.

44 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:17:15pm

OT:
Fresh, ripe mangoes are delish! I’m noshing on the big green one I bought underripe in Guilin a few days ago.

45 kirkspencer  May 4, 2014 7:18:41pm

re: #6 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh and This Stupid Meme Again
Why are they using a photo from a factory that shut down in 1958?

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So how come they don’t mention Jefferson County, Alabama? Oh, right, wrong party.
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46 Floral Giraffe  May 4, 2014 7:21:54pm

re: #44 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

OT:
Fresh, ripe mangoes are delish! I’m noshing on the big green one I bought underripe in Guilin a few days ago.

Yummy!!!

47 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:25:17pm

re: #46 Floral Giraffe

Yummy!!!

Sweet and so much better than the little yellow ones we have in the supermarkets here in Hunan. Not that those are bad.

I put half in the freezer, because I know mangoes perish quickly once they’re ripe.

48 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 7:27:16pm

re: #41 Whack-A-Mole

Run/install it from a thumbdrive:

pendrivelinux.com

I just ran the installer. I’m gonna try Precise Puppy, though I also have an Ubuntu 12.04 ISO somewhere. I’ll let you know how it works.

49 kirkspencer  May 4, 2014 7:31:33pm

re the mac and linux discussion… I’m sticking with windows for the most part.

I’ve got arch running on a laptop that’s got too little memory to run anything M$ heavy (1GB RAM), and too old to be worth upgrading. Makes a nice runabout since I killed my tablet. (Shattered the silly thing. sigh.)

Macs, well, they hit a few negatives for me.

a) Personal experience, which is both anecdotal and most personally persuasive, is the macbook they never fixed despite three runs in under warranty. The problem was confirmed, it just couldn’t be fixed and we never quite hit the threshold for a replacement.

b) Neither Mac nor Linux is an enterprise. If you’re working with a range of largish businesses they want to interact without bringing in someone from IT and wasting half an hour.

c) I am a computer geek, built some of my machines, mod software, and the rest. Noting (a) is an exception, Macs are very very good so long as you stay in their walled garden. Getting outside the garden is a different story, being both difficult to do and causing more problems than just modding a windows box.

d) As I mentioned a few days ago, I think Apple is getting out of the Mac business. I would not be surprised to see the iPad (in numerous variations) as their largest interaction device. Being honest there’s a fair argument for that for a large proportion of individual user uses. Businesses, on the other hands, may be a different story.

I like the mac and the iPad I still have. But the majority of things I do are on a windows box because it’s the one the stuff I need runs most consistently.

50 b_sharp  May 4, 2014 7:32:55pm

re: #40 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

If I had enough space on my HD, I would. That’s my other problem. I should have partitioned my HD five years ago when I bought this computer.

You can always ‘burn’ the ISO to a flash-drive if you want to run Ubuntu.

51 Gus  May 4, 2014 7:34:03pm

52 Gus  May 4, 2014 7:34:18pm
53 psddluva4evah  May 4, 2014 7:39:34pm

Evening everyone.

On a pop culture movie note, I saw spider man 2 today.

My review was….meh. I was kinda bored even with the special effects and junk.

I really only saw it because I wanted to see if it followed the comic book plotline.

Spoiler alert…. nellybellsplace.com

54 psddluva4evah  May 4, 2014 7:43:05pm

I like George Clooney even more now. Clooney seems like that type of friend who isn’t gonna let nobody else talk bad about his friend for no apparent reason….good friends do that!

George Clooney Interrupts Engagement to Eviscerate Las Vegas Hotel Mogul in Scathing New Statement

…Wynn decided to make an appearance on Bloomberg to dredge up the old argument and further diss the groom-to-be. “George didn’t call me an asshole,” Wynn said. “He was a little into the tequila, but he is fun to be with. He’s a good storyteller… .George Clooney is fun to be with. . You just have to watch your timing.” Presumably having had enough with Wynn’s condescension and self-serving cable interviews, Clooney has issued a new statement in which he eviscerates the hotel tycoon’s argument piece by piece…

Wynn and I have met three times, two times for dinner. That is the extent of our knowledge of one another, so I will refrain from trying to categorize him based on the little time we’ve spent together, but I will not let his version of the truth go unchallenged. He now says he didn’t call the president an ‘a——.’ That is false. He bellowed ‘I voted for the a——,’ and then called him the same thing several more times as the dinner came to an abrupt end. Again there were eight people at the table, eight witnesses. I did in turn, call him the same body part, and walked out. Again he can make up whatever story he wants, but these are the facts. He said I drank 16 shots of tequila. I didn’t drink one shot of tequila, not one. We were drinking but it was early and we still had two events to attend.

55 psddluva4evah  May 4, 2014 7:44:39pm

re: #54 psddluva4evah

a bit more from Clooney:

He said I live in a bubble. More of a bubble than Las Vegas? Honestly? He says I’m ‘molly coddled,’ that I’m surrounded by people who coddle me. I would suggest that Mr. Wynn look to his left and right and find anyone in his sphere that says anything but ‘yes’ to him. Emphatically. I did not attend a private boys’ school, I worked in tobacco fields and in stock rooms, and construction sites. I’ve been broke more of my life than I have been successful, and I understand the meaning of being an employee and how difficult it is to make ends meet. Steve is one of the richest men in the world and he should be congratulated for it, but he needs to take off his red sparkly dinner jacket and roll up his sleeves every once in a while and understand what most of the country is actually dealing with … or at least start with the fact that you can’t make up stories when eight people who are not on your payroll are sitting around you as witnesses…

What happens in Vegas … doesn’t stay in Vegas when you are George Clooney and get in an argument with a hotel tycoon over President Obama. “There were 9 people at that table…So you can ask them…Steve likes to go on rants…HE called the president an asshole… that is a fact…I said the President was my longtime friend and then he said ‘your friend is an asshole.’ …At that point I told Steve that HE was an asshole and I wasn’t going to sit at his table while he was being such a jackass. And I walked out. There were obviously quite a few more adjectives and adverbs used by both of us. Those are all the facts. It had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with character.”

56 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:46:12pm

re: #52 Gus

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more product placement than you can shake a stick at. Cars, cellphones, Amazon. Interesting twist on the combination of politics, entertainment and sales.

57 palomino  May 4, 2014 7:46:39pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Jonah Goldberg just keeps hacking away:

The italics are in the original piece, but the bolding is mine. Years have gone by, but Goldberg keeps coming back to that book he wrote. He thinks it strengthens his case on the issue he’s talking about now, but what it really does is cripple it.

Liberal Fascism is part of the long line of books from Coulter, Malkin, Limbaugh, Beck, etc., that arch-conservatives lap up because it tells them what they want to hear in exaggerated, even apocalyptic, terms. It’s a “shock book”, kinda like the crap most Fox personalities have published at least once. Nice to see that some conservatives like you recognize this.

Calling Hillary a fascist neo-Hitler does no good in terms of the national discourse. Especially when conservatives claim that the Dems and Obama are the ones responsible for our current high level of polarization.

What remains of the conservative intellectual movement doesn’t take Goldberg seriously. And he apparently has no original ideas, other than painting a Hitler mustache on a smiley face, and specious garbage like “Hitler was a vegetarian, thus…”, as if that meant modern vegetarians inherently have something Hitlerian deep in their personality.

58 Shiplord Kirel  May 4, 2014 7:50:02pm

Continuing the conversation on Kent State from the last thread.

I was in flight training at Fort Wolters at the time. The initial news didn’t make much of an impression, partly because I was very busy and partly because many of the reports were contradictory and wildly inaccurate. The big 3 TV networks bent over backward to give the benefit of the doubt to the Guardsmen and the state authorities, reporting as fact the claim of a sniper. There were also many claims of wounded and even dead Guardsmen. One local outlet went quite a bit farther, implying strongly that the Guardsmen had been attacked by thousands of drug crazed hippies and had been forced to shoot their way out.
Reactions at the base varied, with the expected “they had it coming,” to a lot of discussion and comments about the incompetence and poor discipline of the Guardsmen. Very few active soldiers took the sniper or crazed mob attack stories very seriously for long. As more facts filtered in, the picture looked worse and worse, with the President’s bungled response only playing into the hands of his opponents.
I really didn’t have what I considered an accurate picture until I read Michener’s book and cross checked some key facts. To me, the evidence suggests a deliberate, willful decision by certain Guardsmen to kill the protesters, rather than a panic stricken volley in the face of provocation. Among other things, the number of protesters was much smaller than initial reports had suggested, and only 27 of the 77 Guardsmen are known to have fired their weapons. Many of those apparently aimed away from the protesters or over their heads, since the range was quite short (the most distant fatality was 105 meters away) and the targets fully exposed, ie sitting ducks at that range. 67 rounds were fired, including a number from .45 pistols and several from at least one shotgun. All the deaths were caused by M-1 rifles. The perfunctory investigation failed to determine who had fired which shot, which is hard to believe given the means available. It was an obvious whitewash, and it looks like one or more Guardsmen got away with murder.

59 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 7:54:01pm

re: #57 palomino

I just called it as I saw it: Liberal Fascism having been refuted to my satisfaction, Goldberg’s bringing it up in context of Putin’s latest power-plays constitutes Goldberg being a hack. Hence my saying he was “hacking away”.

Historical accuracy matters a lot to me, and thus I could not abide Goldberg’s hooey.

60 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:54:01pm

examiner.com

The dinner has become more commercialized over the years with product placement seemingly everywhere and celebrities brazenly promoting their shows. At one point, the televisions at the dinner had the logo of animated movie ‘Frozen’ on them. HBO’s ‘VEEP’ organized to get coverage with star Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who play the Vice President on the show with the real Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden.

I guess they must sell ad space for the event.

61 Gus  May 4, 2014 7:55:24pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

more product placement than you can shake a stick at. Cars, cellphones, Amazon. Interesting twist on the combination of politics, entertainment and sales.

Didn’t notice. Just the Vette.

62 Gus  May 4, 2014 7:55:55pm

Anywho. Made a page. Not up to whining about the video of a page I just made. Later.

63 Dark_Falcon  May 4, 2014 7:56:11pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

examiner.com

I guess they must sell ad space for the event.

Killgore, you know as well as I that it’s always about the money.

64 palomino  May 4, 2014 7:56:40pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

examiner.com

I guess they must sell ad space for the event.

This is nothing new. Two years ago the whole cast of Duck Dynasty was on hand for the WHCD. And they were referred to several times during the evening. Even Seth Meyers had some fun at their expense.

65 palomino  May 4, 2014 7:58:15pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Killgore, you know as well as I that it’s always about the money.

Yes, of course it is. This is America, after all.

And in Murica, it’s always about money, just as Jesus intended.

66 Killgore Trout  May 4, 2014 7:58:43pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Killgore, you know as well as I that it’s always about the money.

I never noticed it before. It’s usually a dry event, it never crossed my mind that companies would buy ad space for it.

67 palomino  May 4, 2014 8:01:42pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

I just called it as I saw it: Liberal Fascism having been refuted to my satisfaction, Goldberg’s bringing it up in context of Putin’s latest power-plays constitutes Goldberg being a hack. Hence my saying he was “hacking away”.

Historical accuracy matters a lot to me, and thus I could not abide Goldberg’s hooey.

I think Goldberg went over schedule by quite a long time to finish Liberal Fascism, it wasn’t published until many months, if not a year or more, after its intitial date was set. So he’ll keep on pimping the book until he finally gets around to writing another huge oversimplification of poltical history meant to satisfy his ditto heads.

68 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 8:07:38pm

re: #67 palomino

I think Goldberg went over schedule by quite a long time to finish Liberal Fascism, it wasn’t published until many months, if not a year or more, after its intitial date was set. So he’ll keep on pimping the book until he finally gets around to writing another huge oversimplification of poltical history meant to satisfy his ditto heads.

He can take a page from Rush and write a children’s history book, something like Goldberg-vere and the Raiders.

69 Feline Fearless Leader  May 4, 2014 8:08:20pm

A belated good evening to one and all.

Spent the weekend not getting things done efficiently. And the evacuation caused by the window leaking last week led to an impromptu spring cleaning as well. Still furniture to get back into place, but I did get around to neatening up the herb garden, replacing a torn mattress cover, purchasing additional litter box capacity for the cats, and taking care of some other miscellaneous errands.

Whoever suggested the MS Image Composite Editor a few threads back gets major kudos. I used it to stitch together a string of photos from last fall - and can see other places to use it.

USS North Carolina - plus a few relatives for scale.

70 TedStriker  May 4, 2014 8:11:59pm

re: #54 psddluva4evah

I like George Clooney even more now. Clooney seems like that type of friend who isn’t gonna let nobody else talk bad about his friend for no apparent reason….good friends do that!

George Clooney Interrupts Engagement to Eviscerate Las Vegas Hotel Mogul in Scathing New Statement

BOOM goes the dynamite!

71 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  May 4, 2014 8:13:51pm

re: #69 Feline Fearless Leader

A belated good evening to one and all.

Spent the weekend not getting things done efficiently. And the evacuation caused by the window leaking last week led to an impromptu spring cleaning as well. Still furniture to get back into place, but I did get around to neatening up the herb garden, replacing a torn mattress cover, purchasing additional litter box capacity for the cats, and taking care of some other miscellaneous errands.

Whoever suggested the MS Image Composite Editor a few threads back gets major kudos. I used it to stitch together a string of photos from last fall - and can see other places to use it.

USS North Carolina - plus a few relatives for scale.

That was me, and I found it purely by accident. It came up in a Google search.


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