Finally: a Truly Fair Representative Climate Change Debate From John Oliver

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342 comments
1 Kragar  May 12, 2014 10:26:05am

“Who gives a shit? You don’t need people’s opinions on a fact.”

2 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 10:26:45am
3 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 10:28:46am
4 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 10:31:45am

I’m starting to see some journalists getting fed up with the Mighty Greenwald.

5 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 10:33:46am

Are coubs embeddable here?

6 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 10:34:42am

re: #5 Sergey Romanov

Are coubs embeddable here?

What’s a coub?

7 Kragar  May 12, 2014 10:35:03am
8 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 10:36:56am

meanwhile, in Kentucky the excitement never ends:

9 HappyWarrior  May 12, 2014 10:37:01am

re: #7 Kragar

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And this guy has had people in the US House of Representatives think he should be the Speaker.

10 [deleted]  May 12, 2014 10:37:21am
11 Kragar  May 12, 2014 10:40:21am
12 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 10:42:12am

OFFS
Now there are “Emily Letts Abortion Video” Truthers.

13 b.d.  May 12, 2014 10:42:17am

QUIT POINTING OUT GLENN’S QUOTES YOU DROOLING OBAMABOT SYCOPHANT!!!1!

14 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 10:42:51am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Hehe, should have expected that :P

digitalintheround.com
calvertjournal.com

There are some really good ones.

coub.com

15 Targetpractice  May 12, 2014 10:44:13am

re: #11 Kragar

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The question these wingnuts never seem able to answer: What happens if they win in 2016 and they don’t “get their country back” before year’s end?

16 b.d.  May 12, 2014 10:44:51am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

What is the CAP in CAP fabrication?

17 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 12, 2014 10:45:27am

I appreciate good American skepticism and critical thinking, but this attitude has simply been hijacked by people with an economic and ideological interest in ignoring global warming and the steps necessary to deal with it…

18 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 10:46:48am

What is the CAP in CAP fabrication?
———
Center for American Progress (I think)

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 10:47:27am

re: #16 b.d.

What is the CAP in CAP fabrication?

Center for American Progress

20 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 10:47:38am

re: #16 b.d.

Formerly a far-right bogeyman. Now seemingly a far-left bogeyman.

21 iossarian  May 12, 2014 10:49:37am

The word “partisan” is a bit like “monies” in that using it non-ironically often flags that you’re making a content-free assertion that your own personal point of view is the only correct one.

22 Kragar  May 12, 2014 10:52:15am

His example of a well regulated militia:

The Oath Keepers

23 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 10:54:03am
24 b.d.  May 12, 2014 10:54:25am

re: #18 Bulworth

What is the CAP in CAP fabrication?
———
Center for American Progress (I think)

Is that worse than the CATO Institute that Glenn use to work for? The one that originally started out as the Charles Koch Foundation?

25 Targetpractice  May 12, 2014 10:56:11am

re: #22 Kragar

His example of a well regulated militia:

The Oath Keepers

The ones who got called “deserters” and threatened with “execution” for calling it quits on the Bundy front during an argument over a phantom drone strike?

26 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 10:57:41am
27 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 10:58:39am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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That second photo - the B&W photo - looks like a mugshot.

28 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:00:04am
29 lawhawk  May 12, 2014 11:00:06am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

30 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:00:43am
31 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:01:08am

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

That second photo - the B&W photo - looks like a mugshot.

Looks like a 1930s mug shot.

32 Lidane  May 12, 2014 11:01:15am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

33 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2014 11:04:55am

re: #31 b.d.

Looks like a 1930s mug shot.

Greenwald is public enema #1?
//

34 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:05:45am

re: #29 lawhawk

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Glenn looks like one of those guys who escaped from Alcatraz.

35 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 11:05:46am

re: #33 Feline Fearless Leader

Greenwald is public enema #1?
//

I see what you did there. :)

36 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2014 11:10:57am

I liked the Grimes/ McConnell ads they had on the show, hilarious. Definitely NSFW though.

37 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 11:10:59am
Glenn looks like one of those guys who escaped from Alcatraz.

That’s not them. Clint Eastwood was one of the escapees. I saw it on TV.

38 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 11:11:01am
39 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:11:55am

Gun-fucker tries a healthcare meme:
No dipshit, a 12-year-old is still a child and the alternative to “Plan B” is a 12-year-old being pregnant.

40 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2014 11:12:53am

re: #34 b.d.

He was the guy stuck on the roof.

41 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 11:13:41am

So Twitter Gulag Defense Network (TGDN) is still a thing….

42 Lidane  May 12, 2014 11:13:50am

GOHMERT! is flapping his pie hole again:

43 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2014 11:14:32am

re: #36 Amory Blaine

I liked the Grimes/ McConnell ads they had on the show, hilarious. Definitely NSFW though.

mediaite.com

44 klys  May 12, 2014 11:15:52am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

If his slogan is “education defeats propaganda” …

…

well, there’s just way too many things that need to be addressed here. Like his lack of education, and the part where he is actively producing propaganda.

45 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:16:04am

Well we’re fucked.
China says they should get a pass on burning coal because of their “One Child” population control policy.

46 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 11:16:39am

How the Left Cut Down a Democratic Frontrunner

Rep. Allyson Schwartz was up by 25 points in Pennsylvania’s Democratic primary for governor. Then came accusations of centrism—now a dirty word in a party with an energized left flank.

47 Lidane  May 12, 2014 11:17:20am

re: #39 Pie-onist Overlord

If it’s taken early enough, Plan B is something like 95% effective at stopping a pregnancy. Yeah, each pill costs $50, but it’s a small price to pay to keep your 12 year old from becoming a mom.

48 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:17:24am
49 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 11:19:20am

Lidane posted:

If it’s taken early enough, Plan B is something like 95% effective at stopping a pregnancy. Yeah, each pill costs $50, but it’s a small price to pay to keep your 12 year old from becoming a mom.

ABstinence is only TRUTH policy, libtard moran!!!

50 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:19:21am

Google image search shows that atrocity photo showing up on Syrian blogs back in 2009, but this is another example of THEIR IS NO PHOTOS OF OBAMA HUGGING SOLIDERS LIKE THIS ONE OF GW BUSH!!!!! NONE AT ALL!!!!!!!

51 lawhawk  May 12, 2014 11:19:50am

Twitter has unveiled a mute button.

To mute a user from a Tweet on your iOS or Android device or on Twitter for web tap more and then mute @username. To mute someone from their profile page, tap the gear icon on the page and choose mute @username.

52 Lidane  May 12, 2014 11:20:47am

So remember this joke tweet during the WHCD?

Well, Rick Wiles has his panties in a twist over it:

Rick Wiles Points To ‘Game Of Thrones’ Tweet To Prove Obama Is The Antichrist

53 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:20:49am

I’m at work now and can’t Google image that Syrian atrocity pic, I think it was Gus who found it on a Syrian blog dating to 2009.

54 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 11:22:37am
If it’s taken early enough, Plan B is something like 95% effective at stopping a pregnancy. Yeah, each pill costs $50, but it’s a small price to pay to keep your 12 year old from becoming a mom.

Gotta say the seamless transition some RWNJ can make between late-term abortion killings and no birthcontrol pillz for our daughters is truly astounding. /

55 GunstarGreen  May 12, 2014 11:22:58am

re: #51 lawhawk

Twitter has unveiled a mute button.

Muting: For those times when you want to block someone, but you don’t really want to block them block them.

Was this really… necessary?

56 Targetpractice  May 12, 2014 11:23:07am

re: #52 Lidane

So remember this joke tweet during the WHCD?

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Well, Rick Wiles has his panties in a twist over it:

Rick Wiles Points To ‘Game Of Thrones’ Tweet To Prove Obama Is The Antichrist

Funny, I always pictured Obama more like Conan sitting upon his throne than GoT.

57 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 11:24:00am

show me definitive proof
@viciousbabushka
and I’ll delete the tweet.

Oh I doubt that….

58 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 11:24:14am
59 GunstarGreen  May 12, 2014 11:24:16am

re: #54 Bulworth

Gotta say the seamless transition some RWNJ can make between late-term abortion killings and no birthcontrol pillz for our daughters is truly astounding. /

It’s not much of a transition when the core driving principle is wimminz r filthy slutz and shuld keep there legz clozed!!1!!11!!1!

60 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:25:32am

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

You can use these:

aangirfan.blogspot.com

rogerhollander.wordpress.com

61 iossarian  May 12, 2014 11:25:48am

re: #54 Bulworth

Gotta say the seamless transition some RWNJ can make between late-term abortion killings and no birthcontrol pillz for our daughters is truly astounding. /

It’s sad. I really believe that many people who think of themselves as “opposed to abortion” and vote as such really haven’t thought through the consequences of their position, or indeed what the current legal situation allows and does not allow.

Difficult to get past the noise machine though.

62 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2014 11:26:04am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

A disclaimer on how any relationship between his scribblings and reality are purely coincidental?
//

63 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:26:48am

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

They are alleged to be CIA torture photos tho.

64 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 11:26:50am

re: #55 GunstarGreen

Muting: For those times when you want to block someone, but you don’t really want to block them block them.

Was this really… necessary?

I couldn’t use Twitter without it. There are some people it’s really best to completely not see at all, and they’re the ones who find ways to get around the simple block feature - i.e., stalkers. The mute feature keeps these nutcases out of my view entirely.

65 makeitstop  May 12, 2014 11:28:03am

re: #28 Pie-onist Overlord

‘She’s a fucking hawk and almost like a neo-con, practically.’

I thought the GG loved him some neo-cons? Didn’t he defend Bush the Younger at one point?

66 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:28:16am

ANOTHER WINGNUT ADMITS BEING WRONG!!!
I’m keeping this Tweet encased in lucite.

67 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:29:05am

re: #66 Pie-onist Overlord

Here it is alleged to be an Argentinian torture pic:

20min.ch

68 William Barnett-Lewis  May 12, 2014 11:29:49am

re: #22 Kragar

His example of a well regulated militia:

The Oath Keepers

I do hope you laughed loud at him calling the Oathbreakers 1) a militia and 2) well regulated. The qualify as a seditious political group I suppose and they have weapons but in the event of real conflict they’d make the Continental militias of 1777 look like a mighty blue wall. smh.

69 iossarian  May 12, 2014 11:30:02am

re: #66 Pie-onist Overlord

ANOTHER WINGNUT ADMITS BEING WRONG!!!
I’m keeping this Tweet encased in lucite.

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One down, 27% of the US electorate to go…

70 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:30:10am

BUT DON’T THINK U HAVE BEATEN ME LIBTURD!!!!!!

71 FemNaziBitch  May 12, 2014 11:30:16am
72 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:30:19am

re: #66 Pie-onist Overlord

Here’s the same photo in 2008: funnytheworld.com

73 GunstarGreen  May 12, 2014 11:30:33am

re: #61 iossarian

It’s sad. I really believe that many people who think of themselves as “opposed to abortion” and vote as such really haven’t thought through the consequences of their position, or indeed what the current legal situation allows and does not allow.

Difficult to get past the noise machine though.

They haven’t thought it through because it’s not a matter of facts and logic. It’s a matter of Divine Duty. The Skydad says abortion is bad and therefore you must vote against abortion, because if you don’t vote with the Skydad you go to Hell.

Then something actually happens to them and theirs and suddenly their views get a lot more ‘flexible’.

See also: their views on Teh Gayz.

74 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 11:31:32am

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

BUT DON’T THINK U HAVE BEATEN ME LIBTURD!!!!!!

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Words that don’t belong together in a sentence:

a quick google search will show you correct …

75 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:31:33am

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

And here it’s Egyptian authorities torturing a suspect (tho the photo itself is offline): pkpolitics.com

76 lawhawk  May 12, 2014 11:32:56am

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

TinEye indicates that the image might actually date back to 2008, and has been referred to in relation to torture by the CIA at Bagram. Then again, this page has the photo in relation to torture in Argentina (dates to 2010).

Clearly, this is not the Ambassador, and it was clearly circulating before the Ambassador was killed in Benghazi.

77 Kragar  May 12, 2014 11:33:55am

re: #66 Pie-onist Overlord

ANOTHER WINGNUT ADMITS BEING WRONG!!!
I’m keeping this Tweet encased in lucite.

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Nevemind, he’s still saying he was tortured

78 lawhawk  May 12, 2014 11:34:09am

re: #66 Pie-onist Overlord

Frozen in carbonite. But like Jar Jar or George Lucas tinkering with the originals, they keep coming back.

79 jaunte  May 12, 2014 11:35:26am
she can have that one, there are other pictures out there

Maybe they’ll show some discretion and not make Cafe Press shower curtains out of them.

80 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 11:35:37am

Rand Paul joins Alan Grayson and Code Pink
Show Us the Drone Memos

81 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:36:01am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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GET HOLDER ON THE PHONE AND YOU BETTER NOT HAVE TO CALL TWICE!1

82 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:36:48am
83 FemNaziBitch  May 12, 2014 11:38:14am
84 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:38:17am

re: #82 Pie-onist Overlord

He might make a coffee table book though…

85 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 11:38:51am

On Topic:

86 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:38:57am

WATCH OUT US JUSTICE DEPARTMENT! DON’T MAKE GLENN CALL JESSALYN RADACK ON YOU BASTARDS!!1!

87 Kragar  May 12, 2014 11:38:59am
88 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 11:39:09am

re: #78 lawhawk

Frozen in carbonite. But like Jar Jar or George Lucas tinkering with the originals, they keep coming back.

What is this ‘Jar Jar’ everyone keeps speaking of? I can only gather it is some hellish entity from an alternate dimension.

89 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 11:39:13am

Syria update:
Exclusive: Kerry Told Syrian Rebels ‘We Wasted a Year’ in Fight Against Assad

The international community’s failure to coordinate on aid and weapons for the rebels dramatically set back efforts to fight the regime, the secretary of state told opposition leaders.

90 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:39:59am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

What is this ‘Jar Jar’ everyone keeps speaking of? I can only gather it is some hellish entity from an alternate dimension.

It’s worse than that.

91 FemNaziBitch  May 12, 2014 11:40:08am

re: #73 GunstarGreen

They haven’t thought it through because it’s not a matter of facts and logic. It’s a matter of Divine Duty. The Skydad says abortion is bad and therefore you must vote against abortion, because if you don’t vote with the Skydad you go to Hell.

Then something actually happens to them and theirs and suddenly their views get a lot more ‘flexible’.

See also: their views on Teh Gayz.

There is also a certain backward illogic. ” If they can’t have an abortion, then they won’t have sex”

Don’t ask me to explain it, but people really do think that way.

92 lawhawk  May 12, 2014 11:40:23am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Meesa think you better not to know. /

93 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 11:40:41am

a quick google search will show you correct pictures of Steven’s torture, however.

And…what? That Obama had him tortured? That if only Obama had immediately droned Benghazi1!1 then something something?

94 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:41:27am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

What is this ‘Jar Jar’ everyone keeps speaking of? I can only gather it is some hellish entity from an alternate dimension.

No, it was created by HPL’s not-so-smart brother Billo…

95 FemNaziBitch  May 12, 2014 11:41:44am

Sistah Simone rocks!
Youtube Video

96 Randall Gross  May 12, 2014 11:43:38am

re: #87 Kragar

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Let’s cut to the video…

cnn.com

97 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:45:47am

Do most books have their own twitter account?

98 jaunte  May 12, 2014 11:46:31am

re: #97 b.d.

“Everyone will know you’ve ordered one!”

99 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:47:24am

re: #98 jaunte

“Everyone will know you’ve ordered one!”

IT’S NO SECRET I BOUGHT THIS BOOK - FAKE CLAPPER

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 11:47:44am

The shooting situation in East Lansing is still unresolved. Schools are still on lockdown.

101 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 11:47:55am

KINKY

102 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:48:20am

re: #99 b.d.

IT’S NO SECRET I BOUGHT THIS BOOK - FAKE CLAPPER

I STOLE A COPY OF THIS BOOK FROM THE MOSCOW LIBRARY - FAKE SNOWDEN

103 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 11:48:48am

Just a quick note to pages authors - the people who run Raw Story get upset when you post their articles here, even with a link to their site. They don’t like having their articles quoted elsewhere.

I suggest when you find a story there that looks interesting, check the original source instead (since Raw Story basically is just repackaged stories from elsewhere) and use that for a post.

And it’s always best to write something about it in your own voice, instead of just quoting the article. Tell us why you thought this was interesting or important. It makes for a much more interesting post.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 11:48:50am

re: #97 b.d.

Do most books have their own twitter account?

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How many pre-orders did The Intercept make?

105 FemNaziBitch  May 12, 2014 11:49:35am
Population control has a privatized side too. In Mexico, Human Rights Watch has documented how many U.S.-owned factories force women workers to submit to mandatory pregnancy testing as a condition for getting or keeping a job. Quinacrine, a chemical form of sterilization not approved by any drug regulatory authority, is promoted by private population control interests in clinics in Florida and many countries overseas. In the U.S. the organization CRACK pays poor women drug users to be sterilized.

It’s ok because it doesn’t happen on US Soil.

106 jaunte  May 12, 2014 11:49:52am

re: #99 b.d.

“I’m planning to read it over your shoulder.”
—Drone

107 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:49:52am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

How many pre-orders did The Intercept make?

Looks like we have a lot of orders from some guy named Pierre in Honolulu.

//

108 b.d.  May 12, 2014 11:52:02am

THIS IS THE BEST BOOK EVER WRITTEN, I CAN’T WAIT FOR IT TO COME OUT!!

109 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:53:20am

So, I haven’t been paying attention - is GG a darling of Fox etc.?

110 GunstarGreen  May 12, 2014 11:54:12am

re: #105 FemNaziBitch

It’s ok because it doesn’t happen on US Soil.

Always remember: It is not decent morality or a functioning sense of human ethics that keeps US companies from treating their workers in this fashion. Only the force of law prevents them from doing this kind of sick shit here as well.

111 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 11:54:20am

Meanwhile in Yemen
US Drone Strike Kills 6 Al-Qaida Militants

112 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 11:55:39am

re: #109 Sergey Romanov

So, I haven’t been paying attention - is GG a darling of Fox etc.?

Nope. Last summer he was really popular on msnbc but I haven’t watched since then

113 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 11:55:54am

But will Pres Obama get credit for this?

US budget surplus in April totaled $106.9 billion compared to $112.9 billion year ago; deficit forecast for narrowest gap since 2008 - @AP
read more on bigstorystage.ap.org

114 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:57:42am

re: #112 Killgore Trout

Sure, “the left” is his original ground, I just wonder if he has been making rounds in the RW media, what with his Obama stance etc.

115 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 11:58:27am

re: #109 Sergey Romanov

So, I haven’t been paying attention - is GG a darling of Fox etc.?

He’s been on Eric Bolling’s Fox News show twice now.

116 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 11:58:45am

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Ugh.

117 GunstarGreen  May 12, 2014 11:59:24am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

What is this ‘Jar Jar’ everyone keeps speaking of? I can only gather it is some hellish entity from an alternate dimension.

Lucas is, always has been, and always will be a hack. The only reason the original trilogy was any good was all of the people that were not Lucas that worked on them. As soon as Lucas got control, he not only made three new and awful movies, but also went back and screwed up the originals, even going so far as to go back and insert a BIG NOOOOOOOOOO into Return of the Jedi’s pivotal scene, presumably as some sort of middle-finger to everyone that criticized him the first time he did it.

118 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 11:59:32am
119 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:00:37pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

I’ve lost count of how many times the pro-Russian bloggers have used unrelated pictures to lie about the situation.

120 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 12:00:40pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

He’s been on Eric Bolling’s Fox News show twice now.

Youtube Video

121 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 12:00:42pm

HURR HURR U LINKED TO MEDIA MATTERS SOROS LIES!!!!! U LIBTURD.

122 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:01:49pm

re: #121 Pie-onist Overlord

Wait, what? I don’t see a MMFA link in Kragar’s tweet.

123 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 12:02:46pm

re: #122 Sergey Romanov

Wait, what? I don’t see a MMFA link in Kragar’s tweet.

124 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:03:15pm

re: #123 Pie-onist Overlord

Ah, thanks.

125 sagehen  May 12, 2014 12:03:29pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Rand Paul joins Alan Grayson and Code Pink
Show Us the Drone Memos

Dogs and cats lying down together!!

126 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:04:13pm

Kragar, here’s that same pic in 2008:

web.archive.org

The earliest occurence I could find.

127 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:04:35pm

I abandoned those morons. They’re completely delusional.

Meanwhile…

128 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 12:05:00pm

HAHA can’t want till Friday for 20 Teaturds to show up, just like their Labor Day Trucker Fail.

129 FemNaziBitch  May 12, 2014 12:05:15pm

bbl

130 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:05:47pm

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

What was that last time, the truckers gathering in Washington? That went over well…

131 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:05:51pm

re: #126 Sergey Romanov

Kragar, here’s that same pic in 2008:

web.archive.org

The earliest occurence I could find.

I ended up doing a google search and setting the date range for all of 2009 to find my source.

132 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 12:07:24pm

re: #130 Sergey Romanov

What was that last time, the truckers gathering in Washington? That went over well…

They had like 5 rigs show up, but all day long they were Tweeting pictures of trucks from other events.

133 jaunte  May 12, 2014 12:07:49pm
134 iossarian  May 12, 2014 12:07:59pm

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

HAHA can’t want till Friday for 20 Teaturds to show up, just like their Labor Day Trucker Fail.

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I quite like surprise tea parties with my friends. It’s a chance to catch up and talk about how our lives have changed since we were younger. Also an opportunity to eat cake, which is never a bad thing.

For that Twitter poster, though, I imagine that “surprise tea party” is more about RAGE and the interminable “rise of the red nation”.

135 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 12:10:21pm

Who says the south can’t get with the program? : )

More: 125 marriage license applications for same-sex couples processed today so far in Pulaski County, Arkansas - @THV11
end of alert

45 same-sex marriage licenses issued in Washington County, Arkansas; 1 in Marion County, Arkansas; 13 in Carroll County, Arkansas - @THV11
end of alert

136 sagehen  May 12, 2014 12:11:02pm

I just beat my previous high score on that 2048 timesuck. My life is very sad, that this brings me a feeling of accomplishment.

137 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:11:29pm

HURR HURR MEDIA MATTERS LIES you’re argument = INVALIED

138 jaunte  May 12, 2014 12:11:58pm

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

That means at least 165,000 conservative southerners will be forced to fantasize about gay sex.

139 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:12:19pm

re: #137 Bulworth

HURR HURR MEDIA MATTERS LIES you’re argument = INVALIED

140 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 12:12:20pm

Excellent article.

If you want to know more about ‘intersectionality’ read this, even though it never uses that word.

141 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 12:12:21pm

re: #136 sagehen

I just beat my previous high score on that 2048 timesuck. My life is very sad, that this brings me a feeling of accomplishment.

Timesuck is right. My best score so far is 5612. Ugh.

142 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 12:12:56pm

re: #138 jaunte

That means at least 165,000 conservative southerners will be forced to fantasize about gay sex.

Forced? Hell, it’s all they think about right now as it is.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2014 12:13:20pm

re: #125 sagehen

Dogs and cats lying down together!!

Yea, but the cats have knives!

144 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:13:26pm
145 Lidane  May 12, 2014 12:13:44pm
146 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:13:53pm

6 DAYS! until Operation American Spring.Plan to take part 5-16-2014 #teaparty #tcot #takeourcountrybackpic.twitter.com
— Surprise Tea Party (@surprisetpp)

Gotta be a parody, right?

147 jaunte  May 12, 2014 12:14:02pm

re: #144 Kragar

That’s it! I knew there was something familiar about him.

148 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 12:14:39pm

re: #136 sagehen

I just beat my previous high score on that 2048 timesuck. My life is very sad, that this brings me a feeling of accomplishment.

And my life is sad and out of control because I don’t want to be reminded that the game exists in an as yet unconquered (by me) manner. I appreciate that you did not include a link.

149 Lidane  May 12, 2014 12:15:24pm

Getting back to the original topic, the Christian Post haz an answer:

150 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2014 12:15:48pm

re: #145 Lidane

That’s because he has moved beyond Howard Zinn and read Ayn Rand.
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151 CriticalDragon1177  May 12, 2014 12:17:05pm

Randall Gross,

This “debate” off course will never happen since the climate change deniers know they would lose. This is the first time I saw a clip from John Oliver’s new show by the way.

152 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2014 12:17:19pm

re: #149 Lidane

Getting back to the original topic, the Christian Post haz an answer:

Just poorly aimed since I doubt that a Tyson’s chicken farm was homosexually owned. Maybe the divine needs to cut down on the sacramental wine while throwing thunderbolts.
//

153 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 12:19:12pm

re: #149 Lidane

Getting back to the original topic, the Christian Post haz an answer:

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Some folks have just never quite moved past the Bronze Age, have they?

*headdesk*

154 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:20:18pm
155 Shiplord Kirel  May 12, 2014 12:21:29pm

No particular reason:

Fantastic period aviation photo from Boneyard Safari:

This is the prototype DeHavilland Sea Hornet aboard HMS Ocean in April 1945.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 12:23:03pm
157 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:23:55pm

6 DAYS! until Operation American Spring.Plan to take part 5-16-2014

OK, but can I “take part” from my keyboard? Cuz that would be really awesome. /

158 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:24:03pm

re: #154 Kragar

Is this a cross border war now?

Um, no. Why do they ask?

159 freetoken  May 12, 2014 12:24:22pm

re: #149 Lidane

Getting back to the original topic, the Christian Post haz an answer:

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Any column titled “Prophecy and the News” is bound to be, let’s say, a bit out there.

160 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 12:26:34pm

Update: EU imposes sanctions on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s 1st deputy chief of staff, commander of Russian airborne troops and 11 others, as well as 2 Crimean companies - @Reuters
end of alert

161 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:26:40pm

re: #158 Sergey Romanov

Um, no. Why do they ask?

Apparently Ukraine launched an attack on Sloyvansk, which was under “referendum” I think

162 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 12:26:54pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

Excellent article.

thefeministwire.com

If you want to know more about ‘intersectionality’ read this, even though it never uses that word.

Yes, this is right on the mark. Very similar to the reasoning I went through when I decided to de-emphasize these issues at LGF — there’s a double bind at work, where even if you’re trying to promote logical reasoned criticism of the more extreme elements in Islam, the climate of demonization causes a reversal of the intent and instead it ends up just feeding into the right’s smear campaigns.

It’s a real problem, but I decided I didn’t want to be part of that cycle any more.

163 jaunte  May 12, 2014 12:27:15pm

“It’s Aggie vs. [Rick Perry Appointed] Aggie on the Science of Climate Change”

164 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:27:25pm

re: #161 Kragar

Sure, it’s still Ukraine tho, so why would there be a question?

165 jaunte  May 12, 2014 12:28:30pm
“Shaw and the TCEQ’s position that the science of climate change is “far from settled” ( a stance shared by many other Republican leaders in Texas, including the Governor) is an interesting, but flawed, bit of linguistic jujitsu. Since much of science is never “fully” settled, even a scientific consensus of 97 percent on climate change isn’t enough, because it still leaves that three percent up in the air.”
stateimpact.npr.org
166 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:28:44pm

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

Frankly? These kinds of sanctions make the Russians laugh.

167 iossarian  May 12, 2014 12:28:47pm

re: #136 sagehen

I just beat my previous high score on that 2048 timesuck. My life is very sad, that this brings me a feeling of accomplishment.

DAMN YOU AND YOUR GAME

168 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:28:51pm

freetoken posted:

Any column titled “Prophecy and the News” is bound to be, let’s say, a bit out there.

Hey, our prophecy speculation is pure FACTS. Confirmed.

169 Pie-onist Overlord  May 12, 2014 12:29:24pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well shitfire. I’m in Wayne County about to drive up to Oakland.

170 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:29:50pm

re: #164 Sergey Romanov

Sure, it’s still Ukraine tho, so why would there be a question?

No clue, maybe how Russia responds. I was just mentioning the attack, no clue what that guys deal is on the subject

171 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:30:24pm

re: #159 freetoken

Hey, I’ve been meaning to ask - did you read this article?

muse.jhu.edu

I must say, Carrier did convince me in regard to Josephus being useless when it comes to the evidence of Jesus’ historicity.

172 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 12:30:47pm

re: #166 Sergey Romanov

Frankly? These kinds of sanctions make the Russians laugh.

Yup. The real problem for Europe, though, is that they don’t have the stomach to take the kind of action that Russia wouldn’t laugh at. Too much to lose, and the EU doesn’t see Ukraine as being worth a war.

173 Chrysicat  May 12, 2014 12:33:14pm

re: #45 Pie-onist Overlord

Well we’re fucked.
China says they should get a pass on burning coal because of their “One Child” population control policy.

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I read the whole article that Tweet referred to and didn’t notice anything about the one-child policy—embed the wrong one?

174 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 12:33:54pm

The raven should have been our national bird.

/maybe, maybe not

175 Ian G.  May 12, 2014 12:34:26pm

re: #149 Lidane

Tornadoes devastating Mississippi, and not San Francisco or New York or Provincetown. God’s aim is really, really bad if he’s using violent weather to punish homosexuality.

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 12:34:38pm

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

Well shitfire. I’m in Wayne County about to drive up to Oakland.

Be careful

177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 12, 2014 12:35:02pm

re: #166 Sergey Romanov

Frankly? These kinds of sanctions make the Russians laugh.

So we gave the Ukraine guarantees of defending its territorial integrity in exchange for them giving up their nuclear arsenal, which used to be the 5th largest in the world.

Now I am not advocating going in militarily, but since we are not about to , wouldn’t it be fair to let them have their nukes back so they can defend themselves?

/

178 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 12:35:07pm
179 Lidane  May 12, 2014 12:35:37pm

That sound you hear is a bunch of RWNJ heads going ‘splodey:

180 brennant  May 12, 2014 12:35:55pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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It’s always cocktail and accordion o’clock somewhere…

[sip]

181 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:36:18pm

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Poroshenko - who is likely to be the next president - has already said that giving up the nukes was a mistake. So…

182 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:36:40pm
Michael Sam’s jersey is the No. 2 seller among NFL rookies:

Stop shoving ur football jerseys down are throatese!!111!

183 Ian G.  May 12, 2014 12:37:05pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

Youtube Video

Raven annoying a Snowy Owl.

184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 12, 2014 12:37:09pm

re: #181 Sergey Romanov

Poroshenko - who is likely to be the next president - has already said that giving up the nukes was a mistake. So…

Never trust a capitalist!!!

185 Ian G.  May 12, 2014 12:38:12pm

re: #179 Lidane

That sound you hear is a bunch of RWNJ heads going ‘splodey:

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I just….wow. So it’s ahead of Clowney and Sammy Watkins and Teddy Bridgewater. Wow.

186 Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2014 12:38:25pm

Here’s the opening blurb from MacMilan on GG’s book:

In May 2013, Glenn Greenwald set out for Hong Kong to meet an anonymous source who claimed to have astonishing evidence of pervasive government spying and insisted on communicating only through heavily encrypted channels. That source turned out to be the 29-year-old NSA contractor Edward Snowden, and his revelations about the agency’s widespread, systemic overreach proved to be some of the most explosive and consequential news in recent history, triggering a fierce debate over national security and information privacy. As the arguments rage on and the government considers various proposals for reform, it is clear that we have yet to see the full impact of Snowden’s disclosures.

Now for the first time, Greenwald fits all the pieces together, recounting his high-intensity ten-day trip to Hong Kong, examining the broader implications of the surveillance detailed in his reporting for The Guardian, and revealing fresh information on the NSA’s unprecedented abuse of power with never-before-seen documents entrusted to him by Snowden himself.

I wouldn’t be surprised if GG himself wrote it. More and more I think that he, like the other Glenn, has become more an actor taking on a persona than a man making an honest representation of himself.

187 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:39:30pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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Youtube Video

188 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 12:39:55pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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Well alrighty then.

Youtube Video

189 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 12:40:10pm

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So we gave the Ukraine guarantees of defending its territorial integrity in exchange for them giving up their nuclear arsenal, which used to be the 5th largest in the world.

Now I am not advocating going in militarily, but since we are not about to , wouldn’t it be fair to let them have their nukes back so they can defend themselves?

/

Giving Ukraine it’s nukes back would most likely put Russia in quite the dilemma. If you really wanted to put the fear of God into the pants of the Russians, give Ukraine its nukes back and simultaneously make them a full NATO-member state.

Imagine NATO nukes with a 30-second flight time to Moscow.

I think that might get the Kremlin’s attention a bit.

190 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:40:55pm

Nukes are useless against the salami tactics.

191 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 12:42:30pm

El Corrido de Jesse James (Ry Cooder)

Youtube Video

192 Kragar  May 12, 2014 12:43:44pm

re: #188 wrenchwench

Well alrighty then.

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Video

Youtube Video

193 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:43:52pm

Eclectic Cyborg posted:

That source turned out to be the 29-year-old NSA contractor Edward Snowden, and his revelations about the agency’s widespread, systemic overreach proved to be some of the most explosive and consequential news in recent history,

MOST EXPLOSIVE….CONSEQUENTIAL!!!!

Well, not really. Yawn.

194 simoom  May 12, 2014 12:44:34pm

An interesting tidbit from Greenwald’s book excerpt in the Guardian — the Snowden interview that unveiled his identity to the world was actually a do-over (a first interview was scrapped by Poitras and he was allowed to try and improve his performance):

theguardian.com

We were determined that the world would first hear about Snowden, his actions and his motives, from Snowden himself, not through a demonisation campaign spread by the US government while he was in hiding or in custody and unable to speak for himself.

…

Poitras had spent the previous 48 hours editing the footage from my first interview with Snowden, but she said it was too detailed, lengthy, and fragmented to use. She wanted to film a new interview right away; one that was more concise and focused, and wrote a list of 20 or so specific questions for me to ask him. I added several of my own as Poitras set up her camera and directed us where to sit.

I’d love to see the real first interview leaked.

195 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 12, 2014 12:44:50pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

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The raven should have been our national bird.

/maybe, maybe not

New Caledonian crows exhibit advanced tool use and tool making behaviors not seen in other avian species. Ravens are primarily known for pestering troubled drunks who are trying to get some reading in before bedtime.

196 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 12:45:33pm
it is clear that we have yet to see the full impact of Snowden’s disclosures.

THERES STILL MOAR!@!!!! TO COME!!!!11

197 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2014 12:47:05pm

re: #195 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

New Caledonian crows exhibit advanced tool use and tool making behaviors not seen in other avian species. Ravens are primarily known for pestering troubled drunks who are trying to get some reading in before bedtime.

They gotta get their booze money somewhere.

198 Lidane  May 12, 2014 12:47:51pm

Yeah, it’s a publicity stunt for the show Modern Family, but who cares? This is awesome:

199 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:51:36pm

The funny thing - from what I’ve read - is how Tymoshenko is hated by everyone, be it pro-Ukrainians or pro-Russians. She really should have enjoyed her retirement.

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 12:53:19pm

heh…

201 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 12:53:41pm

re: #199 Sergey Romanov

Funny thing - from what I’ve read - is how Tymoshenko is hated by everyone, be it pro-Ukrainians or pro-Russians. She really should have enjoyed her retirement.

Yeah, from what I’ve read, she isn’t exactly ‘Ms. Popularity’.

202 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 12:54:21pm

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

She’s seen as a corrupt old-guard power-hungry opportunist. Which she probably is.

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 12:56:22pm

re: #202 Sergey Romanov

She’s seen as a corrupt old-guard power-hungry opportunist. Which she probably is.

Her fake crowns of braid always annoyed me.

204 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 12, 2014 12:59:14pm
205 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:00:26pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

Heh. Well, they are kind of stylish, better than Image: 2538-734633.jpg

But that’s not what bugs me. This does:

pravda.com.ua

I do not want to bear responsibility for the failure of the revolution any longer. But if the country elects other president [than her], and, as a matter of fact, I have only one rival today, I think we will have to have the third round of the revolution.

206 Kragar  May 12, 2014 1:00:27pm
207 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 1:00:37pm

Meanwhile:

Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts

The collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in West Antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported Monday.

The finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable. The rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.

That large red section is what scientists are worried about

But the GOP will continue in denial, because BEHGHAZI!!

ETA: link nytimes.com

208 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:04:59pm
209 klys  May 12, 2014 1:07:08pm

re: #208 Sergey Romanov

First response: that’s a brilliant ad.

Second response: how’d they get the edges cut so clean?

210 Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2014 1:07:33pm

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

We are so screwed. Between oil companies owning the right and paranoid environmentalists on the left blocking nuclear power you just know mankind will burn every ton of coal and every gallon of oil it can find. Smart play now is adaptation is that’s even still an option. Natural forces are going to fix this and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

211 makeitstop  May 12, 2014 1:08:59pm

re: #209 klys

First response: that’s a brilliant ad.

Second response: how’d they get the edges cut so clean?

They must have glued the pages together.

212 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:09:28pm

re: #209 klys

First response: that’s a brilliant ad.

Second response: how’d they get the edges cut so clean?

Amputavit marginibus!

213 Lidane  May 12, 2014 1:09:45pm

BENGHAZI!

214 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 1:11:48pm

re: #210 Rightwingconspirator

We are so screwed. Between oil companies owning the right and paranoid environmentalists on the left blocking nuclear power you just know mankind will burn every ton of coal and every gallon of oil it can find. Smart play now is adaptation is that’s even still an option. Natural forces are going to fix this and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

You ain’t kiddin’. It’s gonna be ugly, that’s for damned sure, and it’s not like there’s another planet to run to.

Dystopia, here we come! Woohoo!
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*facepalm*

215 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:12:47pm
216 klys  May 12, 2014 1:12:47pm

re: #211 makeitstop

They must have glued the pages together.

My initial thought was actually a block of wood with a cover pasted on, but the behavior of the cover made me rethink that.

I suppose glue might work, I was just thinking of the drill techniques that come to mind and most would still likely cause some ripping on the edges. I think.

I don’t have handy access to a book to try it out on + a drill press + the required bits so I guess I’ll have to wait to figure it out.

217 jaunte  May 12, 2014 1:15:08pm

re: #216 klys

It’s probably laser-cut:
brit.co

218 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  May 12, 2014 1:16:38pm

re: #212 Sergey Romanov

Amputavit marginibus!

“It has been cut off by means of edges”?

219 klys  May 12, 2014 1:16:53pm

re: #217 jaunte

It’s probably laser-cut:
brit.co

Learn something new every day. I would have thought that would leave char marks, but apparently not. :)

220 jaunte  May 12, 2014 1:17:35pm

re: #219 klys

I think the cut line is just vaporized.

221 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:17:59pm

re: #218 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Potter Latin doesn’t have to make sense.

222 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  May 12, 2014 1:19:15pm

re: #221 Sergey Romanov

Potter Latin doesn’t have to make sense.

I’m always happier when it does, however. For example, “exspecto patronum” and “draco dormiens nunquam titillandus”.

223 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:19:47pm

re: #222 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Well, google translate says it’s “Cut off the edges!”. So there’s that. :P

224 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  May 12, 2014 1:20:19pm

re: #223 Sergey Romanov

Well, google translate says it’s “Cut off the edges!”. So there’s that. :P

Google Translate’s Latin is worse than Rowling’s.

225 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:21:03pm

re: #224 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

It’s just a Bavarian dialect of Latin.

226 sagehen  May 12, 2014 1:22:57pm

re: #210 Rightwingconspirator

We are so screwed. Between oil companies owning the right and paranoid environmentalists on the left blocking nuclear power you just know mankind will burn every ton of coal and every gallon of oil it can find. Smart play now is adaptation is that’s even still an option. Natural forces are going to fix this and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

I was starting to warm up to the idea of nuclear power… until Fukishima. Now I’m a big NOOOO on that question.

227 sagehen  May 12, 2014 1:24:10pm

re: #213 Lidane

BENGHAZI!

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But that’s only because April is when a lot of people send in a whole year’s worth of tax, right?

228 klys  May 12, 2014 1:25:20pm

re: #226 sagehen

I was starting to warm up to the idea of nuclear power… until Fukishima. Now I’m a big NOOOO on that question.

I am still very cognizant of the improvements that have been made in reactor design and am unwilling to rule out future plants.

I would like to see the older designs retired securely, though. I’m with you on that aspect.

229 freetoken  May 12, 2014 1:26:56pm

re: #210 Rightwingconspirator

Natural forces are going to fix this and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

There is no “fix”ing to be done. Those organisms that fit the new environment survive to reproduce.

Those that don’t, don’t.

230 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2014 1:29:41pm
231 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 1:30:41pm

Warning area now includes Detroit.

232 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:30:52pm

Hi there, Awkward Guy ;)

233 Lidane  May 12, 2014 1:31:22pm

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

And while Antarctica melts, internet scientists don’t see the big deal:

234 Lidane  May 12, 2014 1:32:26pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

So what is God punishing Michigan for today?

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235 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 1:32:47pm

re: #233 Lidane

And while Antarctica melts, internet scientists don’t see the big deal:

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Yep. Daily Mail, the best source for definitive scientific FACTS.

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236 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 1:33:20pm

re: #234 Lidane

So what is God punishing Michigan for today?

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VB needs to bake more pies to appease the higher powers.

237 klys  May 12, 2014 1:36:05pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

VB needs to bake more pies to appease the higher powers.

I will offer myself as a sacrifice in the name of eating them for the cause.

I got apple pie with lunch today.

It was more like pie-shaped cake.

I was confused. But I’m not sure if that’s a normal thing or just that pub, which admittedly doesn’t have the greatest food ever but is convenient to the hotel and I like the atmosphere.

238 Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2014 1:36:25pm

re: #149 Lidane

Getting back to the original topic, the Christian Post haz an answer:

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Finally, something we can get some hard data on.

239 freetoken  May 12, 2014 1:37:08pm

re: #233 Lidane

It’s not called the DailyFail for nothing.

Here’s the real information:

sites.google.com

240 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:39:18pm

freetoken, are you here?

241 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 1:39:50pm

Time to start putting in for polar bear hunts

Oh, so in addition to being a dolt, he’s an asshole, too.

242 freetoken  May 12, 2014 1:40:50pm

re: #240 Sergey Romanov

freetoken, are you here?

No.

243 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:41:28pm

re: #242 freetoken

Good, I’ve left a comment for you over there. ;)

244 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 1:41:50pm
BREAKING: U.S. April budget surplus at $106.9 billion
— Bloomberg TV

SKewwed!!!1! Cooking the books!!!!

245 Lidane  May 12, 2014 1:42:38pm

re: #209 klys

First response: that’s a brilliant ad.

Second response: how’d they get the edges cut so clean?

I think it’s a block of wood. The actual book cover looks like this:

amazon.com

246 freetoken  May 12, 2014 1:43:29pm

Humans have long eliminated other species, and we’re not done yet.

Getting some coverage today is the BBC story of the discovery of an Auk bone from the middle ages:

‘Scotland’s dodo’ bone found at Scottish Seabird Centre dig

Trying to get society as a whole to change the collective habits for the purposes of preserving life on this planet has, and is, and uphill battle.

247 Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2014 1:44:22pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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At a quick glance, the image behind Paul bears a striking resemblance to a sinking Titanic.

248 Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2014 1:46:38pm

re: #233 Lidane

And while Antarctica melts, internet scientists don’t see the big deal:

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Is this the thing where they get the North and South poles mixed up again?

249 freetoken  May 12, 2014 1:46:46pm

re: #243 Sergey Romanov

Josephus has always been suspect, about his references to Christians. Not only is the obvious insertion obvious, but as Josephus had vested religious interests I never really considered him an objective observer.

But that is “history”, which is one person selecting what they think is important and forcing the data into their framework for understanding the universe.

250 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 1:47:39pm

re: #228 klys

I am still very cognizant of the improvements that have been made in reactor design and am unwilling to rule out future plants.

I would like to see the older designs retired securely, though. I’m with you on that aspect.

We could try nukes without the cost-cutting profit motive. (Or Mafia-owned welding inspectors.)

251 Lidane  May 12, 2014 1:48:59pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Is this the thing where they get the North and South poles mixed up again?

No, it’s a thing where they think that one polar cap expanding and the other one melting are no big deal because ALGORE.

I’m actually seeing derp online where the nutters dismiss the news about Antarctica as no big deal because the Arctic ice cap is expanding. WTF.

252 Bulworth  May 12, 2014 1:49:45pm
Rogers’ hope is to “move the needle” toward the political center on radio, which is crowded with conservative antagonists, and at a time when the division between the GOP’s mainstream and right wings is deep.

HAHAHAHAHhahhahhahhahahhah

news.yahoo.com

253 b.d.  May 12, 2014 1:50:00pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

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Anonymous vs. Greenwald?

It’s like Mothra vs. Godzilla without the warmer, more cuddly, characters.

254 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 1:51:17pm

Clay Aiken may be a shoo-in for Congress in the 2nd District after all.

myfox8.com

ASHEBORO, N.C. — Keith Crisco, Clay Aiken’s opponent for the U.S. House District 2 seat, died at his home on Monday afternoon, a spokeswoman for Asheboro Elastics Corp. has confirmed.

“Reports suggest he suffered injuries from a fall around 1 p.m. at his home on Thayer Drive in Asheboro.

(snip)

“The District 2 race was considered “too close to call,” but Aiken lead Crisco by 369 votes.” More

RIP Mr. Crisco.

255 b.d.  May 12, 2014 1:51:34pm

re: #233 Lidane

And while Antarctica melts, internet scientists don’t see the big deal:

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Published: 18:37 EST, 7 September 2013 | Updated: 13:45 EST, 28 September 2013

Read more: dailymail.co.uk
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

256 Kragar  May 12, 2014 1:51:55pm

The document states “Report by Carl DeMaio” on the first page and does not credit the Journal.

In addition to making a few slight changes — such as adding dollar signs and commas — the DeMaio campaign added his opponent’s name, which had not been in the original. Peters had filed for an extension when the original database was published, making the information unavailable.

257 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:53:45pm

re: #249 freetoken

Testimonium Flavianum was certainly useless, but the second mention - his ref to James “the brother of Jesus, who is called Christ” - is still accepted by the majority as authentic, and I used to think it constituted sort of a convergence with Paul’s mention of the same. Carrier’s reasoning is too convincing for me though, in that this reference doesn’t fit the context and is more easily explained as referring to Jesus Damnaeus, with “the Christ” being an inadvertent interpolation of a later marginal note (this kind of thing used to happen all the time).

258 Kragar  May 12, 2014 1:54:20pm
259 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 1:55:06pm

re: #253 b.d.

Anonymous vs. Greenwald?

It’s like Mothra vs. Godzilla without the warmer, more cuddly, characters.

CHARGE OF THE MONSTERS DUDEBROS!!*

* The original Japanese title of the film known as “Destroy All Monsters!” to Western audiences; Kaijū Sōshingeki (怪獣総進撃)

260 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:56:34pm

I’m just waiting for the moment when Assange, envious of the limelight, starts attacking GG or something to that effect.

261 Dr. Matt  May 12, 2014 1:58:20pm

Marginally human/desperate pundit

262 HappyWarrior  May 12, 2014 1:58:34pm

re: #258 Kragar

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You know if they want to argue ACA rationally, I’m willing to listen but this hysterical crap does them no favors.

263 Kragar  May 12, 2014 1:59:10pm

re: #260 Sergey Romanov

I’m just waiting for the moment when Assange, envious of the limelight, starts attacking GG or something to that effect.

Like at the end of Transformers 3 when Megatron goes nuts when he gets hit with basic high school psychobabble?

264 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 1:59:40pm

BTW, many years ago Assange promised to release information about the Russian corruption. #stillwaiting

265 Kragar  May 12, 2014 2:00:34pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

You know if they want to argue ACA rationally, I’m willing to listen but this hysterical crap does them no favors.

Shit like that is why I left the GOP. After the 2008 election, I wondered how they would stand up to Obama and all I got was birth certificate and conspiracy theories.

266 Lidane  May 12, 2014 2:01:27pm
267 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:02:09pm

re: #263 Kragar

1. I know I’ve seen this film.
2. Still, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
3. And I don’t want to know. ;)

268 Dr. Matt  May 12, 2014 2:02:46pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

You know if they want to argue ACA rationally, I’m willing to listen but this hysterical crap does them no favors.

Fleming suggested that “this is the type of thing you would see with Obamacare, a centralized system, when you have the president making all of the decisions.”

When they actually believe privatized insurance is “a centralized system”, having a rational discussion with these bottom feeders is impossible. How come not one of the Obamabots in the MSM challenges these idiots?

269 The Awkward Guy  May 12, 2014 2:04:21pm

re: #268 Dr. Matt

When they actually believe privatized insurance is “a centralized system”, having a rational discussion with these bottom feeders is impossible. How come not one of the Obamabots in the MSM challenges these idiots?

The dreaded Liberal Media label.

270 freetoken  May 12, 2014 2:05:13pm

While I find the know-nothing right-wing as mendacious as ever, with regard to subjects like climate change, our society as a whole has a great bit of difficulty coming to terms with the idea and even more so the implications.

Most reporters use the “IPCC” as a crutch, not realize or not caring that the IPCC doesn’t really do research itself, and as far as research is concerned is useful mostly in coordinating disparate research worldwide.

Notice how few news reports cite the source of information, and if they do any citation it will be “IPCC”.

I’m waving my hands in generalities here… but most writers on the subject in the popular media really don’t have the first clue about climate change (as with most technical subjects.)

The current political approach to emphasis the “now” in climate change sounds good to political operatives but I think will backfire, because the hard truth is that our lives are quite short compared to the changes on the surface of the planet around us. No one alive today in Florida, for example, will have to worry about Florida being flooded out of existence. Yes, during the next millenium south Florida will slip under the waters of the Gulf of Mexico. I expect our current society to have undergone at least an economic, if not also political, collapse by then.

That’s why I linked the Auk article - we’ve been at global life-web destruction for millennia, but only with the industrial revolution have we scaled up our destruction to where we can affect the globe within a couple of centuries. Previous extinctions were more or less regional, now we are eliminating life planetary-wide.

It’s not a story that sells to the crowd, who are more interested in race cars and sex - forms of immediate gratification - than in big picture, civilization scale issues.

271 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:06:06pm

re: #268 Dr. Matt

So, we’re dealing with a libertarian, I guess? I just wonder: does he think that the dreaded centralization should be avoided in the military? Should make it more effective! /

272 HappyWarrior  May 12, 2014 2:06:38pm

re: #266 Lidane

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They think they can get away with being Know Nothings just like Romney ran away with the nomination when he started outwingnutting the others on immigration.

273 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:06:45pm

Man, this is good. Just don’t look at David Lindley’s pants.

Youtube Video

274 Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2014 2:07:30pm

I fear this country has become too partisan and politically charged for any kind of sane, rational discourse to occur.

I hope I’m wrong but I suspect I’m not.

275 CuriousLurker  May 12, 2014 2:07:40pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

Excellent article.

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If you want to know more about ‘intersectionality’ read this, even though it never uses that word.

Excellent article. It covers part of what I was referring to more generally in my Page on honor killing victims the other day:

We need to stop allowing politicians and anti-Muslim activists to turn these critically important issues into circus sideshows that benefit and enrich the activist groups & individuals, but do little or nothing to provide real help to women, children, and other at risk groups.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Not only do these groups have a negative impact of the efforts of Muslim women’s rights activists, they also hobble our ability to effectively combat external, global terrorist threats as well as home-grown extremism.

They’re not doing anyone any favors, least of all non-Muslims. The sooner people wake up and realize that, the better off everyone will be.

276 Dr. Matt  May 12, 2014 2:08:38pm

re: #271 Sergey Romanov

So, we’re dealing with a libertarian, I guess? I just wonder: does he think that the dreaded centralization should be avoided in the military? Should make it more effective! /

The US military is the epitome of socialized medicine. I used it for 4 years and it wasn’t that bad.

277 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:09:41pm

re: #270 freetoken

So suppose you’ve convinced the USA. Now you only have the rest of the world to convince. Good luck with that!

/ [yes, I know that many countries are on-board; many leading players aren’t; the world is fucked]

278 Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2014 2:11:41pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

The US military is the epitome of socialized medicine. I used it for 4 years and it wasn’t that bad.

Thank you. I used it too in Canada. It wasn’t perfect but it was way better than whatever you call this system America has right now.

I’ve often felt a hybrid system might be possible. One in which the government covers certain basic health care costs (annual physical, annual dental check up, eye exam every 2 years, up to $X in prescription costs and so forth) in full, others are split between government/private insurance and some (mainly elective and vanity procedures) remain entirely private.

279 Lidane  May 12, 2014 2:12:16pm

I am truly out of fucks to give. I am DONE. I have had it with lazy people who sit on their ass all day playing video games telling me that I need to get a fucking job.

I am over it. Completely.

280 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:14:00pm

re: #275 CuriousLurker

Excellent article. It covers part of what I was referring to more generally in my Page on honor killing victims the other day:

Not only do these groups have a negative impact of the efforts of Muslim women’s rights activists, they also hobble our ability to effectively combat external, global terrorist threats as well as home-grown extremism.

They’re not doing anyone any favors, least of all non-Muslims. The sooner people wake up and realize that, the better off everyone will be.

Thanks! I missed that Page when you posted it.

281 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 2:15:13pm

re: #270 freetoken

And that’s just it.

No one’s talking about a scenario out of “The Day After Tomorrow” (was that ever a hoot - but then again, it’s a disaster movie with lots of CGI eyecandy) and because of that, the classic response is “Meh - not my problem.”

282 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 2:17:50pm

re: #279 Lidane

I am truly out of fucks to give. I am DONE. I have had it with lazy people who sit on their ass all day playing video games telling me that I need to get a fucking job.

I am over it. Completely.

Don’t let them yank your chain.

Consider the source(s).

283 freetoken  May 12, 2014 2:18:22pm

This comment over at RawStory’s article on the WAIS melting probably conveys the deeper meaning of denial:

Flying Squid • an hour ago
That’s okay, it will just drip off the Earth because it’s on the bottom.

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 2:18:36pm

re: #279 Lidane

I am truly out of fucks to give. I am DONE. I have had it with lazy people who sit on their ass all day playing video games telling me that I need to get a fucking job.

I am over it. Completely.

For you; use it freely and often as needed:

adding fertilizer just kills it faster.

285 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:20:02pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Image: 7vmhJcT.jpg

286 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 2:20:48pm

re: #283 freetoken

This comment over at RawStory’s article on the WAIS melting probably conveys the deeper meaning of denial:

If that commenter isn’t kidding, then it’s frankly amazing that their brain can generate enough power for them to still be alive.

287 freetoken  May 12, 2014 2:22:06pm

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure it was sarcasm.

288 Kragar  May 12, 2014 2:22:49pm
289 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 2:24:30pm

Jesus Christ. There’s the “fascist” meme again about the US.

And plenty of people have “such convictions” but not enough to wreck their lives.

These people are the same kind of “true believers” as the ‘bagger types.

Worse, since they purport to hold “liberal” and “progressive” views.

But we know exactly what they are.

290 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 2:24:57pm

re: #287 freetoken

I’m pretty sure it was sarcasm.

Yes, you’re right. It’s disturbing when I can’t discern between what should be obvious sarcasm and what wingnuts actually spew out of their pieholes.

291 thedopefishlives  May 12, 2014 2:27:08pm

Evening Lizardim. What’s new from the front lines in the war on derp?

292 CuriousLurker  May 12, 2014 2:28:23pm

re: #280 wrenchwench

Thanks! I missed that Page when you posted it.

Yeah, a lot of times I post stuff on Saturday in the PM as I have the most free time then, unfortunately there’s also hardly ever anyone around at that time and by the time things get busy again it has gotten pushed down and is out of sight. I should prolly just save the next one as a text file and post it on Sunday or Monday.

293 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:28:28pm

re: #289 Justanotherhuman

Jesus Christ. There’s the “fascist” meme again about the US.

And plenty of people have “such convictions” but not enough to wreck their lives.

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These people are the same kind of “true believers” as the ‘bagger types.

Worse, since they purport to hold “liberal” and “progressive” views.

But we know exactly what they are.

They are the kind of people who tweet about themselves with an account they made for a book they wrote so the book could tweet about them.

294 Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2014 2:28:56pm

re: #291 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. What’s new from the front lines in the war on derp?

There are times when I fear it is a losing battle, as the wingnuts press forward with their attacks to make the collective American IQ somewhere around that of a carrot.

295 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:30:25pm

re: #292 CuriousLurker

Yeah, a lot of times I post stuff on Saturday in the PM as I have the most free time then, unfortunately there’s also hardly ever anyone around at that time and by the time things get busy again it has gotten pushed down and is out of sight. I should prolly just save the next one as a text file and post it on Sunday or Monday.

I deleted a bunch of jokes to the effect of that being my Sabbath from the internet. They weren’t funny. But yeah, your Page should get reupped. Maybe I’ll write a letter to Mr. Beaumont.

296 thedopefishlives  May 12, 2014 2:30:41pm

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

There are times when I fear it is a losing battle, as the wingnuts press forward with their attacks to make the collective American IQ somewhere around that of a carrot.

Just remember the immortal words of Jesus: “The stupid you shall always have with you.” (paraphrased)

297 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 2:32:26pm

re: #293 wrenchwench

They are the kind of people who tweet about themselves with an account they made for a book they wrote so the book could tweet about them.

And in which GG attempts to give Rand Paul legitimacy.

298 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:34:12pm

re: #297 Justanotherhuman

That would be a respectable position for Paul to take … if he didn’t belong to the Republican party that started the whole thing.

299 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:34:26pm

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Thank you. I used it too in Canada. It wasn’t perfect but it was way better than whatever you call this system America has right now.

I’ve often felt a hybrid system might be possible. One in which the government covers certain basic health care costs (annual physical, annual dental check up, eye exam every 2 years, up to $X in prescription costs and so forth) in full, others are split between government/private insurance and some (mainly elective and vanity procedures) remain entirely private.

That’s essentially Italy. Very good place for everyone to get their shots, preventive medicine and normal care. OK place for exotic treatment if you’re wealthy.

300 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:36:54pm

re: #297 Justanotherhuman

And in which GG attempts to give Rand Paul legitimacy.

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Time to squelch the BS that Greenwald is a lefty. He turns up as a libertarian at every examination, and not left-leaning.

301 thedopefishlives  May 12, 2014 2:37:54pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

Time to squelch the BS that Greenwald is a lefty. He turns up as a libertarian at every examination, and not left-leaning.

He’s in his own class now, Headmaster of the Dudebros, Chiefest and Greatest of Derplamities.

302 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:37:55pm

Meanwhile Conchita Wurst is #1 on the Russian iTunes, far above the Russian EV contenders.

Image: itunes.JPG

303 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 2:39:42pm

“Free speech” activists target supporter’s book tour
Anonymous Hacker Collective Ironically Targeting Glenn Greenwald and His Book Tour

304 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:40:20pm

OK, who can resist a quiz from Lizard Point? [Me.] First question: from these 229 flags, pick out that of Micronesia.

305 iossarian  May 12, 2014 2:40:31pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

Time to squelch the BS that Greenwald is a lefty. He turns up as a libertarian at every examination, and not left-leaning.

His anti-government-surveillance stance plays well with those on the left who (rightly or wrongly) believe that the US government went too far in expanding and/or lost control of surveillance organizations in the wake of 9/11.

But yes, he has never been “left-wing” himself. As far as my limited awareness of his past activity goes, he’s basically slid around between being a more-or-less conventional right-winger and a libertarian.

306 Kragar  May 12, 2014 2:41:44pm

What Tony did in his Kelly File appearance is a perfect encapsulation of the really terrible mindset that the anti-LGBT movement, in general, brings to the debate. When we raise pertinent points, they respond with meaningless talking points. When we say we won’t to have a debate about civil rights, they resort to biblical opinion. When we push back against something discriminatory that they said or did, they turn themselves into the “victims” of “free speech.” And when we show then their own words, intact and beyond any reasonable debate, they act like we and our friends in the entertainment industry colluded to make up that which they themselves put on the record. If you track this stuff with any regularity, as I do, it can feel like living in a bizarro world—one where the war on critical thinking feels almost as stifling and in some ways as damaging as the fight against tangible rights.

307 dog philosopher  May 12, 2014 2:42:00pm

re: #302 Sergey Romanov

Meanwhile Conchita Wurst is #1 on the Russian iTunes, far above the Russian EV contenders.

Image: itunes.JPG

Thomas “Tom” Neuwirth, better known as the drag persona Conchita Wurst, is an Austrian singer. Wurst represented Austria and won the Eurovision Song Contest 2014 in Copenhagen, Denmark

euroWTF????

308 Killgore Trout  May 12, 2014 2:42:13pm

re: #297 Justanotherhuman

And in which GG attempts to give Rand Paul legitimacy.

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It’s something to keep an eye on. Lefty “establishment” outlets like DKos and MSNBC are trying to tamp it down but it’s entirely possible that Rand Paul could foster some cross over appeal from grass roots progressives. It’s a mixed blessing; it can potentially siphon off some votes but it does unload some of the loons on the other party.

309 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:44:44pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

OK, who can resist a quiz from Lizard Point? [Me.] First question: from these 229 flags, pick out that of Micronesia.

Would guess #150 assuming that’s the Southern cross on a light blue field.

310 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:45:53pm

re: #309 Decatur Deb

Would guess #150 assuming that’s the Southern cross on a light blue field.

Go ahead… click on it. If you’re wrong, you get two more chances. Then: Luxembourg.

311 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 2:46:18pm

re: #298 Sergey Romanov

That would be a respectable position for Paul to take … if he didn’t belong to the Republican party that started the whole thing.

Libertarians of a feather flock together.

I used to respect the ACLU and, in fact, worked for lawyers who handled typical ACLU cases of the ’60s and ’70s, civil rights and so forth, Constitutional issues that had teeth in them and were for the good of individuals who were members of groups discriminated against traditionally over the years and defended their free speech issues as well.

I don’t know how to explain exactly how I see them today, but they’ve changed and I’m not so sure it’s for the better, even defending hate speech in a number of instances. Consider their position on Citizens United, for instance. aclu.org

I find I’m at odds with them on more issues than ever.

312 Stanley Sea  May 12, 2014 2:47:00pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

OK, who can resist a quiz from Lizard Point? [Me.] First question: from these 229 flags, pick out that of Micronesia.

Brutal!!!

313 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:47:05pm

re: #308 Killgore Trout

It’s something to keep an eye on. Lefty “establishment” outlets like DKos and MSNBC are trying to tamp it down but it’s entirely possible that Rand Paul could foster some cross over appeal from grass roots progressives. It’s a mixed blessing; it can potentially siphon off some votes but it does unload some of the loons on the other party.

Applying the “no true progressive” response to that. They won’t be missed when the work get tedious.

314 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:47:44pm

re: #308 Killgore Trout

I don’t believe it. His positions on the other issues are just too far removed from progressivism.

315 Randall Gross  May 12, 2014 2:48:33pm

re: #206 Kragar

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Beyond Thunderwomb?

316 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2014 2:48:48pm
317 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:48:59pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

Go ahead… click on it. If you’re wrong, you get two more chances. Then: Luxembourg.

?? Nothing happened, other than the flag growing a fuzzy fringe. Probably need to enter higher up.

318 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:50:48pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

other than the flag growing a fuzzy fringe

Was that the Austrian flag? /

319 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:51:20pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

?? Nothing happened, other than the flag growing a fuzzy fringe. Probably need to enter higher up.

I just pulled up the page again. This time it starts with Sierra Leone. There’s a box on the right with the pertinent writing in it. YMMV.

320 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 2:51:38pm

re: #318 Sergey Romanov

Was that the Austrian flag? /

LOL

321 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:52:23pm

re: #318 Sergey Romanov

Was that the Austrian flag? /

Not unless they’ve changed it—this is a light blue field with 4 white stars. Not very Hohenzollernish.

322 dog philosopher  May 12, 2014 2:54:09pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

?? Nothing happened, other than the flag growing a fuzzy fringe. Probably need to enter higher up.

admiralty flag!!!

323 dog philosopher  May 12, 2014 2:54:49pm

why do the tiny islands and 600 year-old principalities get the coolest flags?

324 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 2:55:25pm

re: #322 dog philosopher

admiralty flag!!!

For Sovereign Micronesian Citizens!!!

325 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:56:45pm

re: #311 Justanotherhuman

I won’t stop respecting ACLU just because I disagree with a couple of cases. And Skokie was in 1978. They’re merely staying true to the principle.

326 Lidane  May 12, 2014 2:57:55pm

So Rand Paul being complimented by Greenwald means that Rand is going to siphon off millions of Democratic votes in 2016? ROFL. Yeah. Sure it does.

That would require ignoring everything Rand Paul actually stands for, but hey. Clearly we must keep our eyes on DKos for proof that they’re going to all vote for Rand Paul now. *eyeroll*

327 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 2:57:57pm

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

(And I’m far from a free speech absolutist.)

328 CuriousLurker  May 12, 2014 3:00:33pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

OK, who can resist a quiz from Lizard Point? [Me.] First question: from these 229 flags, pick out that of Micronesia.

Oddly, while I didn’t take the quiz I was able to pick out Micronesia’s flag correctly on the first try. I can’t for the life of me figure out why on earth I’d be able to do such a thing. The human brain is a strange, strange thing…

329 GeneJockey  May 12, 2014 3:03:41pm

O-whatever the T has become, but I now know why 70 year old men are angry.

Let me start years ago, when I was just 9 years old, in 1966. I bought my first car magazine, Road & Track, with a picture of the then-new Jaguar E-type 2+2 coupe. OMG, what a beautiful car! I have been obsessed with sporty cars, basically all my life, but the American muscle cars of the late 60s through 71 - those I REALLY loved..

When you’re a kid, you can’t have one because you can’t drive. When you’re a young man, you can’t have one because you can’t afford it or the insurance. When you get married, you can’t have one because you’re supposed to be responsible. When you have kids, you can’t have one because you need a family car, AND you can’t afford it.

So, here I am, middle aged. The Big 3 started making muscle cars again, only now they don’t fly off the road when it bends gently, they get >20 mpg, they’re comfy, and even the base models have more power than most of the muscle cars did back in the day. I’ve been waiting 40 years, and I thought ‘Finally! I can get the car I’ve been wanting forever.’

Nope. Now, according to Mrs. Jockey, “It screams “Midlife Crisis!”

So there you go, why men at 70 are so pissed. Because they put off getting things they wanted for years, to be responsible family men, and when finally the kids are grown up, and you’re more financially stable, now you’re considered too old for it. You should buy a nice sedan.

I believe ‘Midlife Crisis’ is a ruse, and I think it’s as insulting as telling a woman “Don’t you worry your pretty head about that, little lady!”

/rant. Now get off my fucking lawn.

330 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 3:03:51pm

Snacks on the porch. Meanwhile a bit of Gawker cruelty to Ann Coulter.

Leave Ann Alone!!

gawker.com

331 wrenchwench  May 12, 2014 3:04:45pm

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

I won’t stop respecting ACLU just because I disagree with a couple of cases. And Skokie was in 1978. They’re merely staying true to the principle.

Edward Snowden Is a Patriot

by Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union

Just so you know…

332 Sergey Romanov  May 12, 2014 3:05:56pm

re: #331 wrenchwench

I know.

333 dog philosopher  May 12, 2014 3:09:50pm

WARNING: type punning pointer may be dangerous

watching long compile teevee

334 thedopefishlives  May 12, 2014 3:11:33pm

re: #333 dog philosopher

WARNING: type punning pointer may be dangerous

watching long compile teevee

Linking this one because I absolutely do want to do this:

xkcd.com

335 sagehen  May 12, 2014 3:13:11pm

re: #329 GeneJockey

So, here I am, middle aged. The Big 3 started making muscle cars again, only now they don’t fly off the road when it bends gently, they get >20 mpg, they’re comfy, and even the base models have more power than most of the muscle cars did back in the day. I’ve been waiting 40 years, and I thought ‘Finally! I can get the car I’ve been wanting forever.’

Nope. Now, according to Mrs. Jockey, “It screams “Midlife Crisis!”

So she’s the kind of trophy wife a midlife crisis guy would pick? Good for you, Mrs J. And when he sits you in the passenger seat of his MLC car, wearing your flashy new MLC-trophy jewelry… make sure he turns the radio to a station that plays stuff you danced to in high school.

336 William Barnett-Lewis  May 12, 2014 3:13:58pm

re: #314 Sergey Romanov

I don’t believe it. His positions on the other issues are just too far removed from progressivism.

FYI, Sergey:

Something that has changed since you were last around here is KT. He’s more often concern trolling over articles he can’t be bothered to actually read or news stories that he twists in utterly strange ways. Everything he hates is leftist inspired and he still sees OWS behind every evil thing in America when it’s not under his bed trying to scare him.

It’s a shame, KT used to bring a lot of good to the conversation around here but I haven’t seen that KT for more than one or two posts since OWS started. Instead it’s passive/aggressive concern trolling to poison as many threads as possible.

337 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2014 3:24:19pm

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

I won’t stop respecting ACLU just because I disagree with a couple of cases. And Skokie was in 1978. They’re merely staying true to the principle.

I wasn’t even thinking about Skokie. The “principle” is supposed to be about constitutionality. And I just think there are a lot more “shouting fire in a crowded theater” situations out there that are indefensible, IMHO, but are receiving a hearing. Some, of course, disagree, but at the same time, defending those kinds of cases adds nothing to civil discourse, as we are finding out. Hate has become a cottage industry, to our detriment.

But yes, I suppose those who do it have every right to mutter their insanities and hate without restriction. I should not have to listen to it, day in and day out, and I elect not to. Unfortunately, enough do to make it profitable and in some quarters, influential.

338 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2014 3:29:36pm

re: #337 Justanotherhuman

I wasn’t even thinking about Skokie. The “principle” is supposed to be about constitutionality. And I just think there are a lot more “shouting fire in a crowded theater” situations out there that are indefensible, IMHO, but are receiving a hearing. Some, of course, disagree, but at the same time, defending those kinds of cases adds nothing to civil discourse, as we are finding out. Hate has become a cottage industry, to our detriment.

But yes, I suppose those who do it have every right to mutter their insanities and hate without restriction. I should not have to listen to it, day in and day out, and I elect not to. Unfortunately, enough do to make it profitable and in some quarters, influential.

Are we allowed to yell ‘Fire’ as we shoot in a crowded theater?

339 dog philosopher  May 12, 2014 3:30:57pm

re: #334 thedopefishlives

Linking this one because I absolutely do want to do this:

xkcd.com

beginning to think they sent me a build script with an endless loop in it i’m beginning to think

340 GeneJockey  May 12, 2014 3:53:27pm

re: #335 sagehen

So she’s the kind of trophy wife a midlife crisis guy would pick? Good for you, Mrs J. And when he sits you in the passenger seat of his MLC car, wearing your flashy new MLC-trophy jewelry… make sure he turns the radio to a station that plays stuff you danced to in high school.

She’s the trophy I won for falling in love with her at 17, and waiting 13 years till she was ready.

And she doesn’t like jewelry.

341 Floral Giraffe  May 12, 2014 4:28:34pm

re: #336 William Barnett-Lewis

That is incredibly rude.
How would you feel if he said that about you?

342 William Barnett-Lewis  May 12, 2014 5:17:51pm

re: #341 Floral Giraffe

That is incredibly rude.
How would you feel if he said that about you?

I’ve received worse from him when he’s trolling. Shrug. As the saying goes, truth is an absolute defense.


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