Former CIA Head: Snowden Is the Kind of Guy I Used to Recruit, in Russia.

The Russians were looking for their Snowdens too
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The former head of the CIA’s Directorate of Operations looks at Edward Snowden and sees a narcissistic delusional under-achiever — the perfect candidate to be persuaded to betray his country.

In his new book, No Place to Hide, Glenn Greenwald tells how Edward Snowden once confided to him, “with a hint of embarrassment,” how much he had learned from playing video games. In the black-and-white world of video games, “the protagonist is often an ordinary person, who finds himself faced with grave injustices from powerful forces and has the choice to flee in fear or to fight for his beliefs,” Greenwald writes.

But Edward Snowden’s video-game world is not the real world. As a former director of operations for the CIA, I see Snowden in a very different light. My colleagues and I in the agency spent our careers looking for people like him—on the other side, that is. We worked hard to locate the kind of person who could be persuaded to give up his country’s secrets: narcissistic, often delusional under-achievers whom we could hope to turn into loose-lipped sources in our enemies’ camps and other hostile locations. We understood just how valuable it was to every aspect of our foreign policy to know the plans and intentions of our enemies; the best way to do this was to look for a source and exploit people like Snowden, the National Security Agency leaker, ­ to target for this purpose.

The Russians weren’t slouches either in searching for sources of classified information. They were looking for their Snowdens too. You don’t have to go back too far to see their success in recruiting American spies with unique access - John Anthony Walker, Aldreich Ames, and Robert Hanssen - who did immense damage to our national security. Moreover, Ames and Hanssen’s compromises led to the death of many of our top Russian sources. Walker’s compromise, by contrast, allowed the Soviets to know the locations of U.S. submarines around the world. One shudders to think what more could have been done against us if they had had Snowden’s access to sensitive communications and his technical know-how on how to extract it from the system. Some people think of Snowden as a latter-day Daniel Ellsberg, a noble whistle-blower. Clearly I do not.

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161 comments
1 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 4:36:07pm

Clearly I do not, either.

2 TedStriker  May 14, 2014 4:37:05pm

Ouch…

3 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 4:38:40pm

HURR HURR!!!!! WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE!!!! OF COURSE TEH CIA WOULD SAY THAT!!!! BUT I, TEH NOBLE GREENWALD, AM TEH WORLD’S MOAST BRAVE & COURAGEOUS JOURNALIST OF ALL TIMES!!!!!! BUY MY BOOK!!!!! DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT FROM TEH PIRATE BAY U DROOLING OBAMA SYCOPHANT!!!!!!

4 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 4:41:01pm

WHAT TEMPLE INVITED THIS JEW HATER?

5 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 4:42:00pm

GG should have used that Snowden pic on his book cover instead that pile of spaghetti.

6 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 4:42:54pm

Good freaking grief people. It’s too hot. I’m in no mood for this.

7 makeitstop  May 14, 2014 4:45:31pm

So, Jack Devine seems pretty convinced that Snowden was recruited by Russia.

I’ve always thought so. It’s nice to have a professional arrive at the same conclusion.

8 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 4:45:46pm
9 b.d.  May 14, 2014 4:46:07pm

The CIA never had it so good. The Russians got Snowie to do this for free and publicly, plus they got a belligerent expat lawyer volunteer to boot.

10 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 4:47:05pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Good freaking grief people. It’s too hot. I’m in no mood for this.

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Where is the smiting? I see Greenwald is still standing there, blathering away, instead of a pillar of salt.

11 b.d.  May 14, 2014 4:47:45pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Good freaking grief people. It’s too hot. I’m in no mood for this.

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Drooling bootlicker.

12 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 4:47:46pm
13 b.d.  May 14, 2014 4:52:04pm
The (misguided) passion of Glenn Greenwald
By Jack Shafer

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Once you earn a place in his scope, there you will stay, even after he runs out of ammunition.

Which would be never. Whether the venue be the Web, TV, or Twitter, Greenwald is the sort of fighter who goes on punching after the bell has rung, after the last round has been fought, and continues once the ring has been packed up. If split open by a speeding Mack truck and left bleeding at the side of the Interstate, Greenwald would still be observed shouting at passing traffic, “Ya didn’t hurt me! Come back and get what you deserve, you diesel pig!”

blogs.reuters.com

14 TedStriker  May 14, 2014 4:52:24pm

re: #3 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE!!!! OF COURSE TEH CIA WOULD SAY THAT!!!! BUT I, TEH NOBLE GREENWALD, AM TEH WORLD’S MOAST BRAVE & COURAGEOUS JOURNALIST OF ALL TIMES!!!!!! BUY MY BOOK!!!!! DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT FROM TEH PIRATE BAY U DROOLING OBAMA SYCOPHANT!!!!!!

Information wants to be free…except when GG expects to be paid for it.

15 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 4:52:57pm

What was that about useful idiots?

16 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 4:54:10pm

I don’t get why GiGi has this cult following, it’s not like he’s hot or has talent like Justin Bieber.

17 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 4:56:15pm

re: #16 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t get why GiGi has this cult following, it’s not like he’s hot or has talent like Justin Bieber.

I would like this comment from Alouette stricken from the LGF comment database as it is obviously the rantings of an insane person.

/

18 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 4:57:01pm
19 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 5:00:13pm

I’ve commented at LGF one thousand times.

Lizard Pride

20 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 5:02:08pm

Update. Girlfriend in traffic leaving San Elijo Hills from the San Marcos fire.

She’s the best. Loaded everything including kids, husband, dog, cat & the 80 year old tortoise Seymour.

I’ve tweeted Darrell Issa twice. His district I think is affected. If not, it’s adjacent. Home district lol.

Keep San Diego in your thoughts. It really is a shitshow.

21 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:03:16pm
23 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 5:08:34pm

He’s loving the new attention isn’t he?

24 teleskiguy  May 14, 2014 5:11:33pm

Glenn Greenwald is such a fucking asshole. Playing on people’s fears for money. And we’re gonna hear from him probably for years. I hope to live long enough to see him fully discredited and exposed as the charlatan he his.

*rant over*

25 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 5:13:17pm
26 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:13:24pm
27 SteveMcGazi  May 14, 2014 5:14:16pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

Glenn Greenwald is such a fucking asshole. Playing on people’s fears for money. And we’re gonna hear from him probably for years. I hope to live long enough to see him fully discredited and exposed as the charlatan he his.

*rant over*

You will be disappointed. There will always be a market for him.

28 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 14, 2014 5:16:33pm

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

He’s loving the new attention isn’t he?

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I saw a headline about that earlier today. This really reveals the true goal of Greenwald (as if we didn’t know it already) - it’s not reforming or dismantling the NSA, it’s embarrassing the United States while furthering his career and “fame.”

Narcissism, thy name is Greenwald.

(I have doubts about how much Snowden is cut from the same cloth. In fact, I wouldn’t bet against there being some falling out between them somewhere down the line, when he discovers GG’s just been using him as a meal ticket.)

Edit: Good afternoon, Lizard Nation! :)

29 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 5:17:12pm

re: #28 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I saw a headline about that earlier today. This really reveals the true goal of Greenwald (as if we didn’t know it already) - it’s not reforming or dismantling the NSA, it’s embarrassing the United States while furthering his career and “fame.”

Narcissism, thy name is Greenwald.

(I have doubts about how much Snowden is cut from the same cloth. In fact, I wouldn’t bet against there being some falling out between them somewhere down the line, when he discovers GG’s just been using him as a meal ticket.)

Snowden: I took the risk. Where’s my money?

30 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 5:18:24pm

Greenwald is filling up his bank account from a book and now a movie deal. I wonder if he’s sharing any of it with his buddy in Moscow?

31 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 5:19:20pm


Do I hear an echo?

32 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 5:20:23pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

Update. Girlfriend in traffic leaving San Elijo Hills from the San Marcos fire.

She’s the best. Loaded everything including kids, husband, dog, cat & the 80 year old tortoise Seymour.

I’ve tweeted Darrell Issa twice. His district I think is affected. If not, it’s adjacent. Home district lol.

Keep San Diego in your thoughts. It really is a shitshow.

Uh. She left the fish. She said she’s praying for him/atheist.

33 wrenchwench  May 14, 2014 5:21:32pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Uh. She left the fish. She said she’s praying for him/atheist.

It’s OK to pray for your atheist fish.

34 b.d.  May 14, 2014 5:21:49pm

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

Greenwald is filling up his bank account from a book and now a movie deal. I wonder if he’s sharing any of it with his buddy in Moscow?

Did Carl Denham give money to King Kong?

//

35 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 5:26:19pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Uh. She left the fish. She said she’s praying for him/atheist.

To Neptune, I hope.

36 Archangelus  May 14, 2014 5:26:28pm

re: #4 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT TEMPLE INVITED THIS JEW HATER?

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Oy Elohim Yishmor…. words escape me…

37 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 5:26:38pm

re: #4 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s the Sixth and I in DC.

Since 2004, Sixth & I, through its openness and pluralistic approach, has redefined the 21st-century synagogue and community space with impactful, entertaining, and thought-provoking programs spanning Jewish and cultural traditions.

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38 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 5:27:32pm

re: #33 wrenchwench

It’s OK to pray for your atheist fish.

She’s the chick who took her kids to the mission at San Juan Capistrano. Her 7 year old exclaimed “who’s the guy on the cross with the knife wounds?” or something similar. Still a huge laugh.

39 lawhawk  May 14, 2014 5:28:42pm
40 JustMark  May 14, 2014 5:30:54pm

re: #39 lawhawk

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Will they be back for the coup on Friday?

41 Gus  May 14, 2014 5:32:13pm

re: #22 Pie-onist Overlord

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42 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:32:30pm
43 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:33:29pm

re: #41 Gus

God’s chosen one. Bringing the secrets to the chosen people.

44 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 5:34:15pm

Lakeside / El Cajon.

New.

fox5sandiego.com

45 Gus  May 14, 2014 5:34:24pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

God’s chosen one. Bringing the secrets to the chosen people.

Pre-encrypted and all. :D

46 Gus  May 14, 2014 5:34:37pm
47 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 5:36:02pm

Charles,

Where did the black and white image of Snowden come from? Talk about a bit of narcissism.

I’m guessing he saw himself as a model at some point. That sure looks like a modeling portfolio image.

48 Archangelus  May 14, 2014 5:36:18pm

re: #46 Gus

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“Ve Imru AMEN”

49 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:37:09pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Charles,

Where did the black and white image of Snowden come from? Talk about a bit of narcissism.

I’m guessing he saw himself as a model at some point. That sure looks like a modeling portfolio image.

That’s from Gus’s post:

littlegreenfootballs.com

50 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 5:37:33pm

re: #30 NJDhockeyfan

Greenwald is filling up his bank account from a book and now a movie deal. I wonder if he’s sharing any of it with his buddy in Moscow?

I doubt it. Assange promised to help cover Manning’s defense costs and never followed through.

51 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 5:37:48pm

This may just be circumstantial, but it’s a big old incestuous pool, nonethless.

5 Unnerving Documents Showing Ties Between Greenwald, Omidyar & Booz Allen Hamilton

minds.com

Additionally, Innocentive, the company in which Omidyar has invested heavily, received funding from In-Q-Tel (CIA).

cia.gov

52 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 5:38:48pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Charles,

Where did the black and white image of Snowden come from? Talk about a bit of narcissism.

I’m guessing he saw himself as a model at some point. That sure looks like a modeling portfolio image.

He’s the very model of a modern major asshole.

(Photo was from a spec set he had shot, posted to Ars Technica, IIRC.)

53 dog philosopher  May 14, 2014 5:39:30pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

She’s the chick who took her kids to the mission at San Juan Capistrano. Her 7 year old exclaimed “who’s the guy on the cross with the knife wounds?” or something similar. Still a huge laugh.

when i was about 7 or so i was walking past the open locker of a female camp counselor when i saw inside an elaborate cross about a foot high with a writhing, bleeding jesus dressed only in a skimpy loincloth

i was sure it was some kind of shocking secret sexual thing

54 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 5:39:36pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

He’s the very model of a modern major asshole.

(Photo was from a spec set he had shot, posted to Ars Technica, IIRC.)

He has to be holding a mirror in his other hand.

55 Archangelus  May 14, 2014 5:39:38pm

re: #46 Gus

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BTW the translation is roughly: “Blessed be you G-d, our god the king of the world, that we have lived and sustained and reached this moment”

56 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 5:40:17pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Charles,

Where did the black and white image of Snowden come from? Talk about a bit of narcissism.

I’m guessing he saw himself as a model at some point. That sure looks like a modeling portfolio image.

When he was 21 or 22, Snowden did, I believe, post that on Ars Technica, where he was a heavy commenter under the name, “The True HOOHA.”

arstechnica.com

57 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 5:41:51pm

re: #54 Skip Intro

He has to be holding a mirror in his other hand.

Such a clean mind you have. Bravo.

58 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 5:42:04pm

Well sitting here in a heat wave, gotta say the Summer release from Sierra Nevada brewing is really good. It’s called Summerfest.

59 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 5:43:05pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

That’s from Gus’s post:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Thanks!

Color me surprised.

I must have missed that page from last June. Actually I’m glad I did. Dude thinks way too much of his bad self. Can’t make it as a model you think you are? Become a dick and screw everyone over. Punk.

60 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 5:44:15pm

re: #36 Archangelus

Oy Elohim Yishmor…. words escape me…

Well, the twit did one good thing today. I’d not heard that expression before so I looked it up and learned something new and interesting. Thank you!

61 Stanley Sea  May 14, 2014 5:45:49pm
62 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 5:46:11pm

re: #41 Gus

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Funny, but isn’t that Phoenician lettering on those tablets of the commandments?

63 Gus  May 14, 2014 5:46:55pm

Hey, look, Snowden has a stick modem. Which in theory, according to Greenwald and Snowden, the NSA can hack and monitor everything on that laptop.

64 Gus  May 14, 2014 5:47:37pm

Either that or it’s a USB memory thumbnail.

65 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:47:44pm

re: #63 Gus

Hey, look, Snowden has a stick modem. Which in theory, according to Greenwald and Snowden, the NSA can hack and monitor everything on that laptop.

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Just more proof that this was a false flag operation from the start.

66 NJDhockeyfan  May 14, 2014 5:48:41pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

I doubt it. Assange promised to help cover Manning’s defense costs and never followed through.

Dear Ed,

Here is a hundred rubles and 2 ticket to my movie at the Moscow theater.

Thanks for the memories!

Glenn

67 Jack Burton  May 14, 2014 5:49:05pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

Funny, but isn’t that Phoenician lettering on those tablets of the commandments?

It’s the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet which came from or evolved from a common source as Phoenician I think.

68 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 5:49:51pm

re: #48 Archangelus

“Ve Imru AMEN”

שפוך חמתך אל הגוים אשר לא ידעוך ועל ממלכות אשר בשמך לא קראו

69 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 5:52:03pm

re: #63 Gus

Hey, look, Snowden has a stick modem. Which in theory, according to Greenwald and Snowden, the NSA can hack and monitor everything on that laptop.

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Evidence. IIRC, Snowden said he carried no docs that could be turned over to China or Russia. So what the hell is he showing GG? The docs he gave GG, or his Ars Technica comments?

Why were Poitras and GG in Hong Kong anyway? To pick up copies on thumb drives?

70 Rightwingconspirator  May 14, 2014 5:53:21pm

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

I still think Snowden has been a Russian hand puppet from well before he left.

71 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 5:54:00pm

re: #63 Gus

Hey, look, Snowden has a stick modem. Which in theory, according to Greenwald and Snowden, the NSA can hack and monitor everything on that laptop.

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Photoshop an NSA camera on a drone peeking over their shoulder at the window.

72 Skip Intro  May 14, 2014 5:54:24pm

Deemed “disparaging,” anti-Muslim website denied trademark

INCONSTIPATIONAL!! Pambly screams!

A federal appeals court is letting stand a decision denying a trademark to a website’s banner because it could be perceived as disparaging to Muslims.

The US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit upheld a 2011 decision from the US Patent and Trademark Office against “Stop Islamization of America”—a decision raising constitutional concerns.

……

The appeals court noted Tuesday that comments and essays on the sioanline.com site, and others operated by activist Pam Geller, were against mosques in the United States and supported people to drop their Muslim faith. (The site no longer loads.)

arstechnica.com

73 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 5:54:58pm
74 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 5:55:46pm

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

I still think Snowden has been a Russian hand puppet from well before he left.

So do I. From the time he worked in Japan and a bit later, Hawaii.

If he actually did work in Switzerland for the CIA (from what I can tell, as a gofer of some type), as he alleged, he might have been thinking about it even then.

75 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 5:56:25pm

re: #63 Gus

Hey, look, Snowden has a stick modem. Which in theory, according to Greenwald and Snowden, the NSA can hack and monitor everything on that laptop.

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Getting in some PowerPoint time!

Snowden: “Now you see, this computer image is your phone Glenn. And see these lines depict how your phone conversations go directly to the NSA, this computer server image over here, before going out onto the cell towers, the big graphic tower over here. It all happens so fast, you’ll never know!”

Greenwald: “$$$$$”

76 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:00:56pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Getting in some PowerPoint time!

Snowden: “Now you see, this computer image is your phone Glenn. And see these lines depict how your phone conversations go directly to the NSA, this computer server image over here, before going out onto the cell towers, the big graphic tower over here. It all happens so fast, you’ll never know!”

Greenwald: “$$$$$”

77 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:01:06pm
78 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:01:15pm

The only reason I’m sympathetic at all to Snowden is that he seems like a vague idealistic spoiled brat, who ended up in a position to do something awful, and did it because he didn’t think it through.

That’s the most charitable explanation possible.

79 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:02:40pm

re: #76 Gus

Stand back, Gus is on fire.

80 Randall Gross  May 14, 2014 6:02:48pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

The only reason I’m sympathetic at all to Snowden is that he seems like a vague idealistic spoiled brat, who ended up in a position to do something awful, and did it because he didn’t think it through.

That’s the most charitable explanation possible.

Didn’t Timothy Hutton star in that movie? …. oh wait…

Youtube Video

81 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 14, 2014 6:04:19pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

The only reason I’m sympathetic at all to Snowden is that he seems like a vague idealistic spoiled brat, who ended up in a position to do something awful, and did it because he didn’t think it through.

That’s the most charitable explanation possible.

Yeah, and this was inevitable. A large part of the ‘blame’ has to go to the NSA, for lax-as-fuck internal security. Eventually, someone Snowden-esque would have appeared, be they a libertarian fuckwit, a ultraleftie fanatic, et al.

82 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:04:28pm
83 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 6:05:04pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Stand back, Gus is on fire.

Hey man…I’m his writer!

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84 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:06:13pm
85 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:08:30pm
86 andres  May 14, 2014 6:08:47pm

re: #74 Justanotherhuman

So do I. From the time he worked in Japan and a bit later, Hawaii.

If he actually did work in Switzerland for the CIA (from what I can tell, as a gofer of some type), as he alleged, he might have been thinking about it even then.

No doubt. My question is, since when did he know he was actually involved with the Russian Intelligence?

Or is he still in Mario Land?

87 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:10:08pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

The only reason I’m sympathetic at all to Snowden is that he seems like a vague idealistic spoiled brat, who ended up in a position to do something awful, and did it because he didn’t think it through.

That’s the most charitable explanation possible.

Snowden appeared to be already slightly paranoid about the NSA back in 2006.

“At one point in 2006, Snowden/HOOHA joked about how one user’s Xbox 360 is “NSA’s new surveillance program.” The strange clicking noise that another Ars user heard coming from his console? “That’s the sound of freedom, citizen!”

arstechnica.com

And I correct myself from above, as the same article says this:

“He mentions being in Geneva in 2007, a time when the Swiss embassy has confirmed he was an attaché with the United States Mission to the UN in that city. ” The State Dept, not the CIA…

88 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:11:53pm

re: #86 andres

No doubt. My question is, since when did he know he was actually involved with the Russian Intelligence?

Or is he still in Mario Land?

It was the State Dept, not the CIA. He probably would have known from the get-go, or shortly thereafter, I’d think. Most spies are aware of who they’re working for.

ETA: He worked for Dell from 2009-2012 and downloaded NSA docs at least at early as 2012.

reuters.com

89 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:14:41pm

re: #87 Justanotherhuman

The least charitable explanation is that he was recruited to betray the US by a conglomeration of opportunistic libertarian journalists like Glenn Greenwald, and Russian puppet groups like Wikileaks.

90 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 6:15:31pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey OA:

Tornado destroys homes in Cedarville, 2 injured

If that is all that has happened with the mess the weather was in this state today, we got off easy. Thankfully.

91 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:17:37pm
92 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:18:03pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

If that is all that has happened with the mess the weather was in this state today, we got off easy. Thankfully.

I haven’t had a drop of rain at all, but I sure could see the storm clouds and hear the thunder even though the sun was shining here.

93 b.d.  May 14, 2014 6:19:25pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

The least charitable explanation is that he was recruited to betray the US by a conglomeration of opportunistic libertarian journalists like Glenn Greenwald, and Russian puppet groups like Wikileaks.

94 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:20:07pm
95 b.d.  May 14, 2014 6:22:05pm

re: #94 Gus

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And Beavis can play Snowden, perfect.

96 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:22:08pm

Butthead is perfect to play Greenwald.

97 Archangelus  May 14, 2014 6:22:22pm

re: #94 Gus

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Damnit man! What has Butthead ever done to you to pair him with GG like that! /

98 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:22:23pm

re: #95 b.d.

And Beavis can play Snowden, perfect.

Hey! Didn’t even think of that. :D

99 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:22:47pm

re: #94 Gus

An even more uncanny resemblance than Pee-wee Herman.

100 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:23:52pm

A day for fires, I suppose.

101 b.d.  May 14, 2014 6:24:25pm

re: #95 b.d.

All it took was a pair of glasses

Ladies and Gentlemen, your Snowden.

102 Dark_Falcon  May 14, 2014 6:24:45pm

re: #94 Gus

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103 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:24:53pm

re: #101 b.d.

All it took was a pair of glasses

Ladies and Gentlemen, your Snowden.

Is that Snowden in Hawaii?

104 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:28:54pm

re: #101 b.d.

All it took was a pair of glasses

Ladies and Gentlemen, your Snowden.

Minor fix.

105 Dark_Falcon  May 14, 2014 6:30:38pm

Based on the show, Todd is perfect as Putin: A ‘tough guy’ who Beavis and Butt-Head look up to, even though he beats them up and otherwise abuses them.

106 b.d.  May 14, 2014 6:31:17pm

re: #104 Gus

hahaha, the mole makes it impossible to tell the difference.

107 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:33:14pm

How Snowden sees himself.

Image: top_ten_superheroes_image1.gif

How Greenwald sees himself.

Image: rich-guy.jpg

108 EPR-radar  May 14, 2014 6:35:27pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

That reminds me of the idiot that posted Snowden = The Batman drivel here. A proper troll-roasting ensued.

109 Gus  May 14, 2014 6:35:42pm

re: #106 b.d.

hahaha, the mole makes it impossible to tell the difference.

One more adjustment.

110 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2014 6:36:28pm
112 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:39:47pm

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113 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:40:25pm
114 b.d.  May 14, 2014 6:41:06pm

re: #109 Gus

lol, perfect

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:41:23pm
116 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:44:35pm

Finally started raining.
Lots.

117 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:45:40pm

Carlsbad, Calif., officials: Wildfire now 10% contained; winds starting to die down, but danger not over - @10News
see original on twitter.com

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:46:00pm
119 Floral Giraffe  May 14, 2014 6:46:10pm

re: #20 Stanley Sea

I have room, if you or your friends need it.

120 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:47:50pm

We have a flash flood watch in effect.

google.org

121 jonhendry  May 14, 2014 6:50:13pm

re: #81 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

“A large part of the ‘blame’ has to go to the NSA, for lax-as-fuck internal security.”

And the background-check contractor that was faking their work and not doing detailed background checks.

Not that the NSA should have outsourced that, but it was probably imposed by Congress or a President with a boner for privatization.

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:50:51pm
123 jonhendry  May 14, 2014 6:52:05pm

re: #87 Justanotherhuman

“”He mentions being in Geneva in 2007, a time when the Swiss embassy has confirmed he was an attaché with the United States Mission to the UN in that city. ” The State Dept, not the CIA…”

Given how CIA staff are placed undercover in diplomatic posts, I don’t think this is conclusive evidence.

124 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 6:52:52pm

Nigeria soldiers ‘fire at army commander in Maiduguri’

Soldiers in Nigeria have opened fire on their commander in the north-eastern city of Maiduguri, witnesses say.

Maj-Gen Ahmed Mohammed escaped unhurt after soldiers shot at his car at the Maimalari barracks, the sources said.

The soldiers blamed him for the killing of their colleagues in an ambush by suspected Boko Haram militants.

Sorry but the Nigerian military is not going to be able to handle a hostage rescue on their own. Foreign trained professional commandos are going to be necessary.

125 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:54:25pm

Commies! ///

France Boosts Power to Block Foreign Takeovers of Strategic Firms

online.wsj.com

PARIS—French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has signed a decree giving him extended authority to block foreign takeovers of companies deemed strategic, a move that could strengthen the government’s hand in the battle for Alstom SA alo.fr +1.63% ‘s energy assets, sought by General Electric Co. GE -0.59%

“In a two-page decree published in France’s Official Journal on Thursday, Mr. Valls said he aimed to better protect the country’s security interests by enlarging the scope of sectors in which foreign investors must seek prior government approval to buy French businesses.

“The decree, which came as a surprise, adds energy, water, transport, telecoms and health care to an existing, narrower list of strategic sectors that included nuclear activities, encryption technologies and vaccines.” More

126 ObserverArt  May 14, 2014 6:56:07pm

Gotta try to keep up with Gus a bit…

Patron Saint to DudeBros Everywhere.

127 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 6:56:49pm

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

We have a flash flood watch in effect.

google.org

So do we—5-8 inches in places.

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:57:53pm

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

We have a flash flood watch in effect.

google.org

Here, too, until 2 pm tomorrow.

129 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 6:58:40pm

re: #109 Gus

For B-36 freaks, Jimmy Stewart in “Strategic Air Command” is starting on the Retroplex channel.

130 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 6:59:19pm

good grief

131 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 6:59:30pm

Wish we could ship some of this excessive rain to CA. {sigh}

132 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:01:25pm
134 Mattand  May 14, 2014 7:02:41pm
In his new book, No Place to Hide, Glenn Greenwald tells how Edward Snowden once confided to him, “with a hint of embarrassment,” how much he had learned from playing video games.

You know what I’ve learned from playing video games? They’re fiction. And if I decide to steal millions of secret documents, possibly endangering the country’s security in the process, you have permission to beat me to death with my PS3.

What a fucking idiot.

135 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 7:03:02pm
136 Killgore Trout  May 14, 2014 7:04:30pm

How Nigeria’s Stupidly Brutal Cops Botch the Hunt for Boko Haram

Nigeria’s security forces have such a horrific reputation for random torture and murder that many people do not dare to cooperate with them, even to save the kidnapped girls of Chibok.

137 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 7:09:27pm

re: #93 b.d.

[Embedded content]

Of course. Retweeted by GG.

138 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 7:09:32pm
139 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:09:34pm
140 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 7:09:52pm

re: #139 Gus

heh….

141 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 7:10:42pm

re: #129 Decatur Deb

For B-36 freaks, Jimmy Stewart in “Strategic Air Command” is starting on the Retroplex channel.

Is that the one he later transitions to B-47’s in?

142 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 7:11:39pm

re: #134 Mattand

You know what I’ve learned from playing video games? They’re fiction. And if I decide to steal millions of secret documents, possibly endangering the country’s security in the process, you have permission to beat me to death with my PS3.

What a fucking idiot.

Even my 4 yr old g-grandson knows they’re fiction. Sheeeesh. : )

143 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 7:12:03pm

re: #136 Killgore Trout

How Nigeria’s Stupidly Brutal Cops Botch the Hunt for Boko Haram

Chibok Schoolgirls: U.S. will not share military intelligence with Nigeria - Officials

premiumtimesng.com

144 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 7:12:40pm
145 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 7:13:43pm

re: #141 William Barnett-Lewis

Is that the one he later transitions to B-47’s in?

Think so—has some hellish endurance flight. Or was that “Spirit of St. Louis”?

146 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 14, 2014 7:14:11pm
147 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:16:48pm

re: #137 Justanotherhuman

Of course.

[Embedded content]

148 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:20:24pm

One of the signers.

Blum left the State Department in 1967

Irony. Just started looking. That weirdo Chris Hedges signed it.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  May 14, 2014 7:21:10pm

Well here it is, Cliven Bundy, Cleon Skousen & Koch Brothers, BFF’s Forever

150 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 7:21:16pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

Think so—has some hellish endurance flight. Or was that “Spirit of St. Louis”?

Had to look it up, but yeah, long flight in B-47’s threatened by arm injury.

Also found out that Stewart flew Arc Light missions in B-52F’s. I remembered his WWII service but I didn’t remember him flying combat over Vietnam.

151 Justanotherhuman  May 14, 2014 7:21:56pm

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

Well here it is, Cliven Bundy, Cleon Skousen & Koch Brothers, BFF’s Forever

[Embedded content]

I don’t think GW meant mob rule…

152 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:22:24pm

Another signatory.

153 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:22:57pm

God do I hate these bullshit artists.

154 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 14, 2014 7:23:27pm

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

Well here it is, Cliven Bundy, Cleon Skousen & Koch Brothers, BFF’s Forever

[Embedded content]

I seriously doubt any of those fuckers have read the actual Constitution outside of (portions of) the First, (a selective reading of the) Second, and (a States’ rights reading of the) Tenth Amendments.

155 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 7:23:37pm

re: #150 William Barnett-Lewis

Had to look it up, but yeah, long flight in B-47’s threatened by arm injury.

Also found out that Stewart flew Arc Light missions in B-52F’s. I remembered his WWII service but I didn’t remember him flying combat over Vietnam.

Must have been a BG by then. Who would allow such a risk of capture?

156 Decatur Deb  May 14, 2014 7:24:37pm

re: #148 Gus

One of the signers.

Blum left the State Department in 1967

Irony. Just started looking. That weirdo Chris Hedges signed it.

Must have been a kinder, gentler, State Dept in 1967.

157 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:25:39pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Must have been a kinder, gentler, State Dept in 1967.

Yeah. The one that went balls out crazy in Viet Nam.

158 William Barnett-Lewis  May 14, 2014 7:30:47pm

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Must have been a BG by then. Who would allow such a risk of capture?

From wiki:

On February 20th 1966, Brigadier General James Stewart flew as a non-duty observer in a B-52 on an Arc Light bombing mission during the Vietnam War. At the time of his B-52 flight, he refused the release of any publicity regarding his participation, as he did not want it treated as a stunt, but as part of his job as an officer in the Air Force Reserve. After 27 years of service, Stewart retired from the Air Force on May 31, 1968.[56] He was promoted to major general on the retired list by President Ronald Reagan.[57]

en.wikipedia.org

During his AF Reserve time he remained current on the B-36, B-47 & B-52. So when you’re watching him in that movie, he’s going through the correct motions.

159 Gus  May 14, 2014 7:39:58pm

Lenin’s Hanging Order

“Comrades! The insurrection of five kulak districts should be pitilessly suppressed. The interests of the whole revolution require this because ‘the last decisive battle’ with the kulaks is now under way everywhere. An example must be demonstrated.

1. Hang (and make sure that the hanging takes place in full view of the people) no fewer than one hundred known landlords, rich men, bloodsuckers.
2. Publish their names.
3. Seize all their grain from them.
4. Designate hostages in accordance with yesterday’s telegram.
Do it in such a fashion that for hundreds of kilometres around the people might see, tremble, know, shout: “they are strangling, and will strangle to death, the bloodsucking kulaks”.

Telegraph receipt and implementation.

Yours, Lenin.

Find some truly hard people”

160 Sergey Romanov  May 14, 2014 10:04:22pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

The funny thing is that that was not a typo, that was a straight-up mistake - the dark art of using the binding “s” is not something I’ve fully mastered, only native speakers seem to be able to know when to add it and when not.

The real typo (quickly corrected by me in the original comment) is this:

“…gs[del]s[/del]syndrom”. Apparently he got distracted by the first one ;)

So, with the native speaker’s correction taken into account, the whole looks as follows:

Riesenarschlochselbstverliebtheitsverschlimmerungssyndrom

161 AntonSirius  May 15, 2014 4:31:42am

re: #6 Charles Johnson


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