Glenn Greenwald: Being Called a Traitor Is a “Badge of Honor”

A testament to the wonderfulness of the Mighty Greenwald
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In this short clip from Pete Williams’ Meet the Press interview this morning, Williams asks Glenn Greenwald two questions about his reaction to being called a “traitor,” and Greenwald replies that he considers it “a badge of honor.”

Notice that the questions Williams asked came from ordinary folks on Twitter and Facebook, but Greenwald’s answer is that he’s called a traitor because he’s speaking truth to power — implying what? That the people who asked the questions are mindless subservient sheep doing the bidding of a brutal national surveillance state?

Greenwald: It is always the case that people who bring unwanted disclosure that makes people in power uncomfortable are called traitors, and I look at that really as a badge of honor. I think it’s a testament to the fact that we’re doing our jobs.

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277 comments
1 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 3:06:23pm

Ask Greenwald if he think Pollard is a “hero” who deserves a “badge of honor”

2 Gus  May 18, 2014 3:09:21pm
3 b.d.  May 18, 2014 3:10:15pm

Every traitor was also called a traitor.

4 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 3:10:59pm

re: #1 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL! Bullseye.

5 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 3:12:00pm

“Greenwald: It is always the case that people who bring unwanted disclosure that makes people in power uncomfortable are called traitors, and I look at that really as a badge of honor. I think it’s a testament to the fact that we’re doing our jobs.”

What a totally bullshit statement because no, not everyone who is a genuine whistleblower is a traitor. Snowden stole secret govt documents and “sold” them to the highest bidder, his accomplices, Greenwald and Poitras.

I also am beginning to think that Omidyar may have been previously involved even more than we have been led to believe. It only took him from June to Oct—just 4 months—to finalize a deal with Greenwald for the moribund start-up, “First Look” and offer $250M as seed money.

6 Gus  May 18, 2014 3:14:40pm
7 b.d.  May 18, 2014 3:18:43pm

re: #6 Gus

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Who on earth could that be!?!?!?

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8 Ryan King  May 18, 2014 3:22:49pm

Well, because all people on Twitter are Obama loyalists or NSA hacks. Therefore, I’m awesome.

Sounds legit.

9 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 18, 2014 3:25:35pm

I’m not up on my AnonSpeak, so who or what is Cryptome?

10 PhillyPretzel  May 18, 2014 3:26:51pm

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Do not feel too bad about that. I have no idea who it could be.

11 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 18, 2014 3:28:33pm

This whole affair reminds me of those stories about child actors who become famous and make a lot of money, but their parents spend it all, and the child actors end up being broke before their 18th birthdays.

Little Eddie Snowden and Griftin’ Glenn Greenwald.

12 b.d.  May 18, 2014 3:29:53pm

re: #11 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This whole affair reminds me of those stories about child actors who become famous and make a lot of money, but their parents spend it all, and the child actors end up being broke before their 18th birthdays.

Little Eddie Snowden and Griftin’ Glenn Greenwald.

Greenwald strikes me as the kind of guy who would sue his parents.

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13 andres  May 18, 2014 3:30:14pm

re: #6 Gus

So, the ship is sinking. It’s a surprise that they might jump ship this quickly.

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’m not up on my AnonSpeak, so who or what is Cryptome?

From the Tweeter feed, seems like yet another Anon off-shot. Might be related to this.

14 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 3:30:43pm
15 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 18, 2014 3:31:06pm

re: #13 andres

Yeah, I went to the site to see what else I could find, but it’s just a document dump, looks like.

16 PhillyPretzel  May 18, 2014 3:31:14pm

re: #11 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Or Freddie Bartholomew for that matter. encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com

17 Ryan King  May 18, 2014 3:32:23pm
18 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 18, 2014 3:32:28pm

re: #12 b.d.

Greenwald strikes me as the kind of guy who would sue his parents.

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He strikes me more as the “groomer” cashing in his chips and assuring his mark that “everything’s gonna be just fine, lil Eddie. You’re a big star! A big star!”

19 Gus  May 18, 2014 3:33:51pm

re: #9 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’m not up on my AnonSpeak, so who or what is Cryptome?

en.wikipedia.org

20 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 3:37:38pm

re: #8 Ryan King

Well, because all people on Twitter are Obama loyalists or NSA hacks. Therefore, I’m awesome.

Sounds legit.

To an egomaniac like Glenn Greedwald, John Q. Public is only righteous as long as he agrees with and supports Glenn Greenwald. If J.Q. Public faults Glenn Greenwald for a wrong or disagrees strongly with a conclusion Greenwald has reached, then he instantly changes from one of the People to one of the “sheeple”.

Glenn Greenwald think Galileo was rendered wrong when he was born, as now the Sun and all the planets orbit Glenn Greenwald, who is the greatest thing in the whole solar system.

21 Ryan King  May 18, 2014 3:41:55pm

Keep Rootin’ for Putin

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An eBook written by Barrett Brown, edited by Kevin Gallagher, designed by Nikki Loehr

A hilarious, brilliantly crafted, full-on verbal assault on America’s pundit class. Brown shows us just how lazy, stupid, and corrupt almost all of our nation’s most beloved columnists have become. I’m now fully convinced that this entire generation of over-published bullshit artists deserve to be tasered in the face, one at a time, preferably on live television.
— Michael Hastings (1980-2013)

22 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 3:46:01pm

re: #21 Ryan King

Keep Rootin’ for Putin

Establishment Pundits and the Twilight of American Competence

An eBook written by Barrett Brown, edited by Kevin Gallagher, designed by Nikki Loehr

A hilarious, brilliantly crafted, full-on verbal assault on America’s pundit class. Brown shows us just how lazy, stupid, and corrupt almost all of our nation’s most beloved columnists have become. I’m now fully convinced that this entire generation of over-published bullshit artists deserve to be tasered in the face, one at a time, preferably on live television.
— Michael Hastings (1980-2013)

Barrett Brown is criminal hacker, obnoxious forum troll, and all-around assclown.

23 Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2014 3:49:19pm

I think I’m going start referring to Greenwald as “Tenacious G”.

I’ll be happy when the book/victory tour is over. I’m really starting to get tired of this mans face,

24 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 3:50:02pm

re: #5 Justanotherhuman

omidyargroup.com

25 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 3:56:44pm

Well, it is the decent thing to do, after all. Everyone should be calling for this shit head’s resignation.

Mitt Romney calls for police commissioner in Wolfeboro, NH, where he has a home, to apologize and resign over racist remark about President Obama - @stevebruskCNN
see original on twitter.com

26 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 3:59:58pm

A rare but mild scolding of Greenwald on the Dkos front page
Glenn Greenwald’s blind spot on racism and sexism

Glenn Greenwald has provided some of the most important analysis and journalism of the past decade. He continues to play an important role in our national discourse. But he is wrong on the issues of racism and sexism and how they impact our national political discussion. I hope he can learn to see the error of his analysis.

27 sattv4u2  May 18, 2014 4:01:47pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

A rare but mild scolding of Greenwald on the Dkos front page
Glenn Greenwald’s blind spot on racism and sexism

I’ve been a fan of Glenn Greenwald’s work since I first became aware of it during the first NSA scandal of recent years

Once a fan, always a fan!!

28 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2014 4:04:11pm

Badge of honor?
The Stalin prize used to come with one of those as well as a big pile of gold (aircraft designer Alex Yakovlev received $120,000 in 1940), a luxury dacha, and a new car. Yakovlev received a Pontiac Silver Chief which, though cool, would probably not be available.

29 b.d.  May 18, 2014 4:04:12pm

re: #27 sattv4u2

I’ve been a fan of Glenn Greenwald’s work since I first became aware of it during the first NSA scandal of recent years

Once a fan, always a fan!!

Being able to scold and blow at the same time is an art form.

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30 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 4:06:13pm

re: #27 sattv4u2

I’ve been a fan of Glenn Greenwald’s work since I first became aware of it during the first NSA scandal of recent years

Once a fan, always a fan!!

These are the same people that were unbothered by Ron Paul’s racist newsletters. It’s more important to be on the bandwagon than keep it clean.

31 andres  May 18, 2014 4:09:27pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

A rare but mild scolding of Greenwald on the Dkos front page
Glenn Greenwald’s blind spot on racism and sexism

Greenwald is neither a woman or a racial minority, so those are not his concerns (his concerns are his bank account).

Now, another reason he dismisses those concerns is also to keep his attacks open. He’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, so he has to cling to anything that he can use to attack.

Not that Greenwald doesn’t reverse himself and deny his original position.

32 sattv4u2  May 18, 2014 4:11:05pm

bbl

33 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 4:16:28pm

Don’t worry, Pernicious G. I don’t think you’re a traitor. Eddie is a traitor; you’re just a hack peddling in traitorous wares and throwing twitter stinkbombs from your Fortress of Derpitude.

I guess that’s… better!

34 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 4:16:45pm

lol

35 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 4:18:01pm

To be a traitor, you sort of have to exploit and violate the implicit or explicit trust of the mother country. Really yank the rug out from under everyone’s feet. Be dishonest; pretend to be something you’re not.

It’s plainly obvious that Glenn has no higher loyalty than to himself. Not a sellout; just for sale.

36 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 4:19:26pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

I think I’m going start referring to Greenwald as “Tenacious G”.

I’ll be happy when the book/victory tour is over. I’m really starting to get tired of this mans face,

“Pernicious G”

37 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 4:19:27pm

Guess what? “First Look”/”The Intercept” is a “nonprofit”.

Pierre Omidyar’s dicey embrace of nonprofit status

dankennedy.net

ETA to correct link.

38 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2014 4:19:47pm

Meanwhile, the military offensive in the Brazilian favelas continues to attract zero commentary from GG. I guess he, too, wants the howling slums across the fence from his digs cleaned up in time for the World Cup, whatever the cost.

Btw, I ran across this tidbit recently:
Brazil to boost World Cup security with unmanned Hermes 900
Brazil has operated the smaller Hermes 450 drone for several years. These aren’t known to be armed but the 900’s payload is 300 kg and arming them with any of several Brazilian made guided weapons would be a simple matter. I wonder if the Brazilians have declared a no-drone zone around GG’s pad to keep from unduly alarming their most famous guest.

39 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 4:22:07pm

re: #37 Justanotherhuman

Guess what? “First Look”/”The Intercept” is a “nonprofit”.

Pierre Omidyar’s dicey embrace of nonprofit status

about.poynter.org

Could be a typo for a “nonpurpose”.

40 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 4:23:22pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

Could be a typo for a “nonpurpose”.

Note: I corrected link. The story is interesting. Omidyar has a few irons in the news fire.

41 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 4:23:25pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Meanwhile, the military offensive in the Brazilian favelas continues to attract zero commentary from GG. I guess he, too, wants the howling slums across the fence from his digs cleaned up in time for the World Cup, whatever the cost.

GG’s pernicious-yet-silent embrace of the Brazilian police state is probably the most concise and damning argument that can possibly be made about his cause, and so I raise it at nearly every opportunity.

To move to a place like that and then weep and moan about the horrors of your old government is more than a little bit disgusting.

42 b.d.  May 18, 2014 4:24:11pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

A rare but mild scolding of Greenwald on the Dkos front page
Glenn Greenwald’s blind spot on racism and sexism

From that post:

From Glenn Greenwald (0+ / 0-)
Hi Armando - As you know, I respect your work as well, but my views have not been fairly or accurately represented here at all.

Here are 2 statements, both of which I agree with:

(1) Anti-semitism is a serious problem, and some opposition to Israel is motivated by anti-semitism.

(2) Neocons cynically exploit accusations of antisemitism to discredit legitimate, fair-minded critics of Israel.

To assert (2) is not to negate (1). I believe both. Similarly:

(1) Racism is a serious problem, and some opposition to Obama is motivated by racism.

(2) Some Democrats cynically exploit accusations of racism to discredit legitimate, fair-minded critics of Obama.

To assert (2) is not to negate (1). I believe both. Similarly:

(1) Sexism is a serious problem, and some opposition to Hillary Clinton will be motivated by sexism.

(2) Some Democrats will cynically exploit accusations of sexism to discredit legitimate, fair-minded critics of Hillary Clinton.

To assert (2) is not to negate (1).

Your entire post is based on a logical fallacy: that because I asserted (2) (“Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist”) then it must mean that I believe none of the opposition to Obama and Clinton are based on racism and sexism.

I’m well aware that some opposition to Obama and Clinton are motivated by those things and nothing I said suggested otherwise. I’ll grant that it could have been stated more clearly - this was an oral interview over many days, not a carefully written essay - but I think the meaning is nonetheless clear.

by GlennGreenwaldDK on Sun May 18, 2014 at 06:18:33 PM CDT

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Who the hell knows if it is him or not, I don’t think it is condescending enough to be him.

43 Gus  May 18, 2014 4:31:43pm

If you want to read something stupid.

More derp on the Tweet page.

44 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 4:34:54pm

Caught a mention of dip in Masterspy. Where are the SkoalRebels of yesteryear?

(Last online presence was c. 2011. He’s needed for the 2016 Derpathon.)

45 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 4:36:23pm

re: #43 Gus

If you want to read something stupid.

I was skeptical but hopeful that Vox would turn out a good product. Their sports coverage is very, very good.

Well, they didn’t.

46 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 4:37:03pm

re: #42 b.d.

From that post:

dailykos.com

Who the hell knows if it is him or not, I don’t think it is condescending enough to be him.

“Greenwald does us and himself a disservice by accepting the corrosive notion that we can not recognize that racism and sexism impact even the most powerful in our society, while at the same time being able to substantively critique powerful persons of color, women and other members of minority groups. It is not true.

“Greenwald also misunderstands the powerful and reasonable allegiance that minority groups will have towards one of their own who advocates and understands their concerns. Thus Greenwald dismissively writes “women in America are going to be completely invested in her candidacy”—as if Clinton’s longstanding and persistent advocacy for womens’ rights would have nothing to do with it. It was slighting and frankly, sexist. (Of course, this is also true for President Obama and African Americans.)”

This is important, because Greenwald tries to get us into the trap of thinking that no one inside a “group” ever criticizes one of their own.

That is really a condescending, wrong-headed assumption. If he got out more, he’d hear those criticisms. But OTOH, I think he’s being more than just dishonest.

47 Gus  May 18, 2014 4:39:12pm

re: #45 Testy Toad T

I was skeptical but hopeful that Vox would turn out a good product. Their sports coverage is very, very good.

Well, they didn’t.

48 ObserverArt  May 18, 2014 4:43:10pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

To an egomaniac like Glenn Greedwald, John Q. Public is only righteous as long as he agrees with and supports Glenn Greenwald. If J.Q. Public faults Glenn Greenwald for a wrong or disagrees strongly with a conclusion Greenwald has reached, then he instantly changes from one of the People to one of the “sheeple”.

Glenn Greenwald think Galileo was rendered wrong when he was born, as now the Sun and all the planets orbit Glenn Greenwald, who is the greatest thing in the whole solar system.

You’re late Dark. I did this the other day. I attributed it to Copernicus, the first known thinker to figure out the planets revolve around the sun.

On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres Corrected

There is a little ‘planet’ spinning off too…click to enlarge.

49 Gus  May 18, 2014 4:43:24pm
50 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 4:43:50pm

re: #43 Gus

If you want to read something stupid.

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More derp on the Tweet page.

That piece of stupidity just reminded me of another I saw the other day—a woman on a motorcycle who had her helmet on (it’s the law in NC) but was wearing a fucking bikini and flip flops. And yes, she was riding down the road in the opposite direction from me on a 2 laner, not stopped anywhere.

51 BongCrodny  May 18, 2014 4:44:36pm

re: #49 Gus

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You don’t shower in the middle of the freeway.

52 allegro  May 18, 2014 4:45:45pm

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

Just like the women of America were fully invested in the candidacy of Sarah Palin… oh wait, no we weren’t. Sexist asshole.

53 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 4:48:42pm

Suicide car bomb kills 5 in bar district of north Nigeria’s Kano

A suicide car bomber killed five people on a street of popular bars and restaurants in the northern Nigerian city of Kano on Sunday evening, in an area mostly inhabited by southern Christians, police said.

Kano police spokesman Musa Majiya said the bomber struck Gold Coast Street in the Sabon Gari or “foreign quarter” of the North’s biggest city.

54 Lidane  May 18, 2014 4:49:02pm

re: #43 Gus

If you want to read something stupid.

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More derp on the Tweet page.

Oh geez. Not that shit again.

I had a friend from grad school who got hit by a car while riding her bike home from work one day. Because of her helmet, the worst things she had to deal with were a totaled bike, some minor cuts and bruises and a broken nose. If she hadn’t had a helmet on, who knows what would have happened to her?

55 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 18, 2014 4:51:05pm

meanwhile Putin and the top leadership of China are laughing their a** off at his distracting monologue.

56 jaunte  May 18, 2014 4:53:26pm

re: #42 b.d.

It sounds like him, in that only he will somehow be able to distinguish the fair-minded criticism from the foul.

57 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 4:53:55pm

re: #43 Gus

If you want to read something stupid.

[Embedded content]

More derp on the Tweet page.

Not a helmet in sight
Youtube Video

58 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 4:54:37pm

re: #52 allegro

Just like the women of America were fully invested in the candidacy of Sarah Palin… oh wait, no we weren’t. Sexist asshole.

Or Michelle Bachmann.

59 Gus  May 18, 2014 4:57:26pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Not a helmet in sight
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Video

60 Kid A  May 18, 2014 4:58:18pm

Softball at sunset.

(Photo: Kid A)

61 Gus  May 18, 2014 4:59:32pm
62 b.d.  May 18, 2014 5:02:02pm

I can’t wait for Vox’s next article showing how child safety caps on pills are oppressive and really aren’t necessary.

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63 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:02:45pm

Adam Zyglis - Cagle

64 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2014 5:03:11pm

re: #62 b.d.

I can’t wait for Vox’s next article showing how child safety caps on pills are oppressive and really aren’t necessary.

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and how child safety seats are a bad idea, after all, those young bones are flexible.

RBS

65 Gus  May 18, 2014 5:04:47pm

re: #62 b.d.

I can’t wait for Vox’s next article showing how child safety caps on pills are oppressive and really aren’t necessary.

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Child safety caps actually increase accidental ingestion by children.

66 Gus  May 18, 2014 5:05:09pm
67 jaunte  May 18, 2014 5:05:49pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Interesting pitch for improving our bicycling infrastructure here.

68 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:07:29pm

I gave my bike away once I started working at home and stopped bike commuting. But recently I’ve banned myself from using the car for grocery shopping and close errands (within an hour walk). It takes more time but it’s a nice lifestyle change. I might buy a bike again for when I’m in a rush for quick errands.

69 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2014 5:07:51pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

Adam Zyglis - Cagle

I suspect that Stanley Sea will be the first openly gay player to be cut by a NFL team. I really think that he’s undersized for the Pro game, and some articles have suggest that his work ethic may not be the best. On the other hand, he was the, if memory serves me, SCC Defensive Player of the Year, so he may have the flexibility to adjust into a special teams or limited use player.

Who knows. He’s no different than hundreds of other players who were good to great in college, some have what it takes to play at the highest level, some just can’t make the cut. Not good, not bad, just the way it is.

RBS

70 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:11:08pm

re: #67 jaunte

Interesting pitch for improving our bicycling infrastructure here.

It’s a tough sell here in America because it’s a cultural thing too. Portland is a very bike friendly city with plenty of bike lanes (I live on one) but we’re still Americans. We like cars and we’re always in a hurry.

71 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:13:01pm

As much as I’d bitch about it, I’m starting to think I’d like to see Portland start shutting down streets and sections of town to car traffic. It would never happen but the end result would probably be nice.

72 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 5:13:16pm

re: #69 RealityBasedSteve

I suspect that Stanley Sea will be the first openly gay player to be cut by a NFL team. I really think that he’s undersized for the Pro game, and some articles have suggest that his work ethic may not be the best. On the other hand, he was the, if memory serves me, SCC Defensive Player of the Year, so he may have the flexibility to adjust into a special teams or limited use player.

Who knows. He’s no different than hundreds of other players who were good to great in college, some have what it takes to play at the highest level, some just can’t make the cut. Not good, not bad, just the way it is.

RBS

Got Stanley Sea on the brain, do you? I think you might mean Michael Sam…

73 jaunte  May 18, 2014 5:13:41pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Here in Houston in the summer we’d probably need showers at work if everyone started commuting by bike.

74 thedopefishlives  May 18, 2014 5:16:08pm

Evening Lizardim. LGF’ing from phone tonight, so I will probably be kinda quiet. How go things among the lizardfolk?

75 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:16:53pm

re: #73 jaunte

Here in Houston in the summer we’d probably need showers at work if everyone started commuting by bike.

It’s pretty rough here most of the year with the rain but it’s doable.

76 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 5:16:55pm

re: #64 RealityBasedSteve

and how child safety seats are a bad idea, after all, those young bones are flexible.

RBS

Gah, my kids grew up without seat belts. We used to hold babies in our arms in the front seat. There were the lap belts first, which no one actually used and it seems it took forever after the law was passed in NC to get used to the shoulder/lap harnesses in 1985. You still don’t have to have seat belts on in the back seat, but children must be in proper restraints for their age and/or weight.

77 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:17:56pm

re: #69 RealityBasedSteve

I suspect that Stanley Sea will be the first openly gay player to be cut by a NFL team. I really think that he’s undersized for the Pro game, and some articles have suggest that his work ethic may not be the best. On the other hand, he was the, if memory serves me, SCC Defensive Player of the Year, so he may have the flexibility to adjust into a special teams or limited use player.

Who knows. He’s no different than hundreds of other players who were good to great in college, some have what it takes to play at the highest level, some just can’t make the cut. Not good, not bad, just the way it is.

RBS

Fuck! I practice every day, eat right and am on time to all the meetings.

78 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 5:18:48pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

Adam Zyglis - Cagle

No disrespect to the man, but Michael Sam won’t have earned that roar until he proves he can make it in the NFL. Ignoring the preseason, his first chance on October 13th, when the Rams play the 49er’s. If he can make good plays against San Francisco’s offense, he’ll have shown the talent he’ll need to stay in the league. The NFC West has two powerhouse offenses, the Seahawks being the other, and the Rams will of course play both times times. It will be interesting to see if Michael Sam gets playing time in those games and how well he does.

There is one other measure of talent Sam can show, as the Rams play both the Broncos and the Giants this coming season. With New York having upgraded its o-line, those teams will provide the second challenge:

Should Michael Sam be able to sack either Manning brother, then he will have shown a sign of true greatness.

79 urbanmeemaw  May 18, 2014 5:20:00pm

re: #48 ObserverArt

Hmm. Maybe I can cash in on the Greenwaldo-mania. How about the Church of the Godwaldian Gospels, based on the Teaching of the Tweets.

OK. How many of you are willing to fork over your life savings to me for your chance to troll with Godwald’s Progressive Pures for eternity? Bueller? Anyone?

80 jaunte  May 18, 2014 5:20:14pm

AT&T, DirecTV announce $49 billion merger

81 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 5:20:29pm

re: #69 RealityBasedSteve

I suspect that Stanley Sea will be the first openly gay player to be cut by a NFL team. I really think that he’s undersized for the Pro game, and some articles have suggest that his work ethic may not be the best. On the other hand, he was the, if memory serves me, SCC Defensive Player of the Year, so he may have the flexibility to adjust into a special teams or limited use player.

Who knows. He’s no different than hundreds of other players who were good to great in college, some have what it takes to play at the highest level, some just can’t make the cut. Not good, not bad, just the way it is.

RBS

Need some coffee? : )

82 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:20:51pm

Finished the Vox article. I don’t think it’s that outrageous, they make a decent point. I wouldn’t mind encouraging biking with libertarian Dutch style attitude. Don’t discourage biking with laws, fines, rules, taxes, fees, etc.

83 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:23:08pm

Cycling in the US from a Dutch perspective

Youtube Video

84 Kid A  May 18, 2014 5:23:28pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, but sacking Eli or Peyton is not showing greatness. Neither one of them can move an inch in the pocket with the clay feet they both possess. Wanna impress me as a seventh round pick? Go sack Kaepernick or Wilson, which he’ll get a chance to do twice each a season as the Rams play in their division. He has to make the team first, of course.

85 jaunte  May 18, 2014 5:25:00pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

That video you posted suggests the big difference is the infrastructure required to separate bike traffic from motorized traffic, and the Dutch seem to be more public-spirited in their approach to spending money on the paths.
They do have the advantage of much shorter distances.

86 thedopefishlives  May 18, 2014 5:25:17pm

re: #84 Kid A

Sorry, but sacking Eli or Peyton is not showing greatness. Neither one of them can move an inch in the pocket with the clay feet they both possess. Wanna impress me as a seventh round pick? Go sack Kaepernick or Wilson, which he’ll get a chance to do twice each a season as the Rams play in their division. He has to make the team first, of course.

Not in and of itself, maybe, but getting past the O-line to reach one of the Manning boys is no small feat.

87 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 5:25:31pm

Wish my grandson had thought of this instead of using it. Well, I don’t know if he uses this particular one, but whatever. It’s an offshoot of justin.tv, launched only in 2011.

Sources: Google’s YouTube to buy videogame-streaming company Twitch for more than $1 billion - @Variety
Read more on variety.com

88 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2014 5:25:44pm

re: #69 RealityBasedSteve

I suspect that Stanley Sea will be the first openly gay player to be cut by a NFL team. I really think that he’s undersized for the Pro game, and some articles have suggest that his work ethic may not be the best. On the other hand, he was the, if memory serves me, SCC Defensive Player of the Year, so he may have the flexibility to adjust into a special teams or limited use player.

Who knows. He’s no different than hundreds of other players who were good to great in college, some have what it takes to play at the highest level, some just can’t make the cut. Not good, not bad, just the way it is.

RBS

ROFLMAO…. Geeze, I am just having all kinds of problems today… First I managed to misspell CDC (!). Now I’ve made Stanley Sea into a black gay football player. (Statistically, it’s highly unlikely that he is one).

Thank dog that this isn’t 4-chan or SomethingAwful…. I hate to think the kind of humiliation and ridicule that would rain down upon me.

RBS

89 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 5:25:45pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. LGF’ing from phone tonight, so I will probably be kinda quiet. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Sitting at home editing photos downloaded from the camera. Listening to the jackhammering (day 3) of the new construction across the street putting in sewer connections. They work after hours since they are tearing up the road to do the work.

90 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 5:26:36pm

And Godzilla comes close, but falls 1.8 million dollars short of Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s 95 million dollar opening weekend.

For those who have seen this version of Godzilla, is it worth seeing?

91 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2014 5:29:45pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

And Godzilla comes close, but falls 1.8 million dollars short of Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s 95 million dollar opening weekend.

For those who have seen this version of Godzilla, is it worth seeing?

A lot of people liked it, but I found it to be very slowly paced for the first half, the characters were flat and 1 dimensional, and even allowing for the gigantic suspense of belief you make going into a monster movie, I found the plot holes and wild jumps to be over the top.

FWIW, I actually found myself looking at my watch to see how close it was to being done. Worst part…. Godzilla has gotten really fat. Looks like William Shatner.

92 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 5:29:47pm

re: #86 thedopefishlives

Not in and of itself, maybe, but getting past the O-line to reach one of the Manning boys is no small feat.

It’s not so much that they move (though Eli has had some impressive dodges in his career), its that they both act as a force multiplier for a decent or better offense (with Peyton having the greater effect in this aspect) and catching them by surprise is quite hard; They almost always are be able to get the ball away before they can be hit.

93 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:30:09pm

Ya know, Michael Sam broke a barrier. Not sure if he will make the team or be a success.

But it kind of diminishes the enormity by adding the caveat.

First kiss on draft day tveeee. I don’t care if he plays a snap (well I do, I WANT him to succeed) but once he starts playing he becomes part of the NFL grind. That’s the point, it will become normal. I just want him to always be able to bask in the glory of being gay and proud in the NFL.

94 thedopefishlives  May 18, 2014 5:31:46pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I was going to qualify my statement as, “Getting to one of the Manning boys with the ball still in his hand.”

95 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:32:31pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

ROFLMAO…. Geeze, I am just having all kinds of problems today… First I managed to misspell CDC (!). Now I’ve made Stanley Sea into a black gay football player. (Statistically, it’s highly unlikely that he is one).

Thank dog that this isn’t 4-chan or SomethingAwful…. I hate to think the kind of humiliation and ridicule that would rain down upon me.

RBS

Statistically it’s in the stratosphere, since I’m female!

96 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 5:35:15pm

Practice practice… Sunday Night Hummingbird

Look at that tiny tongue

ISO 500 Speed 1/1000 5.6 at 680mm

97 uncah91  May 18, 2014 5:36:08pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

Statistically it’s in the stratosphere, since I’m female!

I really don’t see how it reduces your chances of,being black or gay … Just saying. ;D

98 Gus  May 18, 2014 5:36:35pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Finished the Vox article. I don’t think it’s that outrageous, they make a decent point. I wouldn’t mind encouraging biking with libertarian Dutch style attitude. Don’t discourage biking with laws, fines, rules, taxes, fees, etc.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

99 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 5:36:55pm

Time for a few photo montages to be dumped on the lizards! :p

First, three shots of the Franklin Institute’s Shimmer Wall. I need to do a video to do this justice.

100 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 5:37:11pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

Ya know, Michael Sam broke a barrier. Not sure if he will make the team or be a success.

But it kind of diminishes the enormity by adding the caveat.

First kiss on draft day tveeee. I don’t care if he plays a snap (well I do, I WANT him to succeed) but once he starts playing he becomes part of the NFL grind. That’s the point, it will become normal. I just want him to always be able to bask in the glory of being gay and proud in the NFL.

No offense, but in my mind the barrier is not broken until he actually is in a play in a regular season game. He does that, then he’s broken through. But given the level of attention he’s gotten, to impress me he’ll have to show real talent, and I hope he does. Just as long as his talent can’t get him past the Bears offensive line, that is. But the only NFC North team the Rams play this year is the Vikings, the last and least of the North.

101 Skip Intro  May 18, 2014 5:39:54pm

re: #80 jaunte

Funny no one seems to care about this. I posted an article about it yesterday, and I’ve seen multiple posts today with basically no response.

Two huge companies, ATT and Comcast will have a nearly complete stranglehold on cable/satellite content/delivery and internet access and it’s a big ho-hum. Do I also need to mention that they both rate at or near the bottom in customer satisfaction in their respective fields?

We’ll see what people think a year from now when their rates for everything take a big hike and internet throttling is just business as usual because what are you going to do about it.

102 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 5:39:57pm
103 Kid A  May 18, 2014 5:41:47pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

I want him to make the team and succeed, and his coming out and being drafted is a very big deal for the precedent it sets for other gay athletes in the future. That’s the one thing these wingnuts can not understand about what Sam did. They scream SAM CAN COME OUT AS GAY AND BE EMBRACED BUT TEBOW WAS MOCKED FOR BEING A CHRISTIAN!!!! until my ears bleed, it’s so pathetic.

104 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 5:42:42pm

Item #2 - A feline overlord statue down in the park behind the Art Museum.

105 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 5:43:00pm

I once had a bike crash in which I ended up falling backward and hitting my head on pavement, at about 20mph. Nearly knocked me out, and I was wearing a good Bell helmet. When I looked at the helmet later, the foam shell was actually cracked straight up the back where it hit. If I hadn’t been wearing the helmet that would have been my skull.

That Vox article is really really stupid and irresponsible, in my experienced opinion.

106 Lidane  May 18, 2014 5:43:18pm

re: #73 jaunte

Here in Houston in the summer we’d probably need showers at work if everyone started commuting by bike.

You’d also need rooms full of respirators and beds since commuting by bike in Houston would be impossible if your job is across town.

107 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:43:19pm

re: #96 Rightwingconspirator

Practice practice… Sunday Night Hummingbird

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Look at that tiny tongue

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ISO 500 Speed 1/1000 5.6 at 680mm

Beautiful.

108 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:43:28pm

re: #98 Gus

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

I just checked and Portland doesn’t require helmets for adults. I assumed it was mandatory. It’s very rare to see a cyclist here without a helmet, It’s legal but I would guess some hippy would scold you for not wearing a helmet.

109 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:44:12pm

re: #97 uncah91

I really don’t see how it reduces your chances of,being black or gay … Just saying. ;D

Oh got it! Ok, add NFL to the criteria…

110 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:45:24pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Defensive player of the SEC 2013. Should be enough. Everyone forgets that.

111 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 5:46:05pm

Only an idiot rides a bike without a helmet, especially in any kind of traffic.

112 Killgore Trout  May 18, 2014 5:46:09pm

Portlandia bike
Youtube Video

113 Kid A  May 18, 2014 5:47:04pm

re: #96 Rightwingconspirator

Nicely done.

114 Skip Intro  May 18, 2014 5:47:27pm

re: #102 Pie-onist Overlord

Obama is the slowest Hitler ever.

After a year or so, Adolph had complete control of the army, police, unions - (there weren’t any), the media, the courts, political parties - (there weren’t any of them left either), and damn near everything else.

These dumb asses have no idea what life under an actual tyrant is like, but they know they’re living in totalitarian state nonetheless.

115 Kid A  May 18, 2014 5:48:13pm

re: #102 Pie-onist Overlord

Look at the ones of protesters!

116 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 5:48:57pm

I did a March Philly skyline photo with snow. Here is roughly the same view a month later.

April Philly view from the Art Museum

117 jaunte  May 18, 2014 5:49:40pm

re: #102 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe they know this genius:

118 thedopefishlives  May 18, 2014 5:50:42pm

re: #117 jaunte

What actual event did that image come from?

119 Kid A  May 18, 2014 5:51:40pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

What actual event did that image come from?

LOL.

120 Lidane  May 18, 2014 5:53:03pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Defensive player of the SEC 2013. Should be enough. Everyone forgets that.

Yep. Sam shared that award with CJ Mosley. Mosley got drafted in the first round.

No one will ever convince me that the SEC Defensive Player of the Year was a seventh round pick. Ever. That was pure cowardice on the NFL’s part. He shouldn’t have gone any later than the third round.

121 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 5:53:31pm

Worst thing about that crash was that I needed to buy a new helmet, and I couldn’t really afford it at the time. If I’d needed to go to the hospital it would have wiped me out for years. Not to mention the effects on my friends and family.

Helmets are a good thing. Vox sucks.

122 jaunte  May 18, 2014 5:53:37pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

I’m not sure, but I like the “Forrest Gump screenshot” guess.

123 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:53:41pm

re: #120 Lidane

Yep. Sam shared that award with CJ Mosley. Mosley got drafted in the first round.

No one will ever convince me that the SEC Defensive Player of the Year was a seventh round pick. Ever. That was pure cowardice on the NFL’s part. He shouldn’t have gone any later than the third round.

YES, exactly.

124 thedopefishlives  May 18, 2014 5:53:51pm

re: #119 Kid A

LOL.

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Can I call ‘em or what?

125 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 5:55:31pm

re: #61 Gus

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There was a time I thought everyone should wear helmets, but I was wrong. Only smart people and Democrats should wear helmets.

126 Kid A  May 18, 2014 5:56:27pm

re: #124 thedopefishlives

You’d think the whole Kodacolor grain in the photo might have tipped her off, but we are dealing with the brain of a wingnut.

128 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 5:57:02pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

There was a time I thought everyone should wear helmets, but I was wrong. Only smart people and Democrats should wear helmets.

No, everyone still should. Because dumb people’s head injuries aren’t any cheaper to treat than smart people’s are.

129 Kragar  May 18, 2014 5:57:05pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

What actual event did that image come from?

January at a MLK event

concordmonitor.com

130 thedopefishlives  May 18, 2014 5:58:11pm

re: #126 Kid A

You’d think the whole Kodacolor grain in the photo might have tipped her off, but we are dealing with the brain of a wingnut.

I would’ve noticed if I could actually see the image. I need a phone upgrade badly.

131 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 5:58:34pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

No, everyone still should. Because dumb people’s head injuries aren’t any cheaper to treat than smart people’s are.

There is a Catholic concept called ‘Invincible ignorance’. Works in politics, too.

132 b.d.  May 18, 2014 5:58:48pm

Next up on Vox

DDT really did do a good job of killing mosquitoes and why we have too many birds anyways.

//

133 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 5:59:01pm

I knew a girl who died because she wasn’t wearing a helmet and was side-swiped by a car going up the long Palisades Drive hill in Pacific Palisades.

I also used to ride with a guy who was kind of a hot-head, always getting into stupid races, and one day when I wasn’t riding with him he got into a race with somebody who crashed right in front of him, sending him flying over the handlebars at 30+ mph. With no helmet. He ended up in the trauma unit at UCLA with a fractured skull and nearly died.

Vox really, really sucks. Fuck them.

134 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 5:59:50pm

OK kitchen people. I just cleaned my Tools of the Trade 14” pan (Macy’s my wedding registry 1999 - way way long ago)

And it is still beautiful. I use it all the time. I looked for a stock photo to show you and can’t find. They stopped making?

Too bad, I would tell you to buy one.

135 Kragar  May 18, 2014 6:00:58pm
136 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:01:32pm

re: #129 Kragar

January at a MLK event

concordmonitor.com

That couldn’t be January. Trees are fully out and no one is dressed for Jan in a DC winter.

Temperature for January 1968

In January 1968 the average high temperature in Washington, DC was 37.0°F, and this was 7.9°F cooler than the average of 44.9°F. The hottest day in January 1968 was 30 January when the temperature reached 58.3°F. Overnight the average temperature in January is 28.9°F and in 1968 the average overnight temperature was 3.0°F cooler at 25.9°F.

137 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:02:35pm

Next up. A few shots from a statue garden behind the Art Museum while the cherry blossoms were out.

138 Kid A  May 18, 2014 6:02:40pm

#baseballisbetter is trending.

139 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 6:03:10pm

re: #135 Kragar

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I don’t bother getting into a Twitter conversation with some troll who has very few followers & following. Waste of time.

#OperationAmericanSpring is totally owned by TEH LIBRULZ.

140 uncah91  May 18, 2014 6:03:14pm

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

No offense, but in my mind the barrier is not broken until he actually is in a play in a regular season game. He does that, then he’s broken through. But given the level of attention he’s gotten, to impress me he’ll have to show real talent, and I hope he does. Just as long as his talent can’t get him past the Bears offensive line, that is. But the only NFC North team the Rams play this year is the Vikings, the last and least of the North.

He is the first openly gay player to go through the combine and other draft processes. He is the first to be drafted. He will go to mini-camp and camp and he will play in exhibition games. He will be on nationwide television playing the sport. He will shower same as anyone else on the team and no one will catch gay cooties.

And, after that kiss, he is unabashedly gay. He isn’t trying say he is gay but not show any hint that he actually is gay.

Even if he doesn’t play a regular season snap, he will still been first in so many important ways.

141 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 6:04:07pm

re: #137 Feline Fearless Leader

Next up. A few shots from a statue garden behind the Art Museum while the cherry blossoms were out.

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Who’s the patriot?

(also, anyone watching Turn?)

142 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 6:04:56pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

What actual event did that image come from?

Google Image Search guesses it’s from the Poor People’s March on Washington, shortly after MLK’s assassination in 1968.

(Tip if one is using Chrome: right click on any picture on a web page and select ‘Search Google for this image’.)

143 Kragar  May 18, 2014 6:05:15pm

re: #136 Justanotherhuman

That couldn’t be January. Trees are fully out and no one is dressed for Jan in a DC winter.

Temperature for January 1968

In January 1968 the average high temperature in Washington, DC was 37.0°F, and this was 7.9°F cooler than the average of 44.9°F. The hottest day in January 1968 was 30 January when the temperature reached 58.3°F. Overnight the average temperature in January is 28.9°F and in 1968 the average overnight temperature was 3.0°F cooler at 25.9°F.

The article was from back in January and included the photo, meaning it wasn’t from last friday.

144 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:06:10pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

OK kitchen people. I just cleaned my Tools of the Trade 14” pan (Macy’s my wedding registry 1999 - way way long ago)

And it is still beautiful. I use it all the time. I looked for a stock photo to show you and can’t find. They stopped making?

Too bad, I would tell you to buy one.

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What kind of material is that? I have a lot of cast iron, but I like stainless steel pots, too.

145 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:06:55pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

Who’s the patriot?

(also, anyone watching Turn?)

Let me double check. I think the one with the telescope is Barry and the one pointing is Von Steuban.

Checked - John Paul Jones with the telescope. The one pointing is Von Steuban.

146 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2014 6:07:15pm

re: #129 Kragar

January at a MLK event

concordmonitor.com

It’s a Getty image from June 19, 1968.

sojo.net

147 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:07:37pm

re: #143 Kragar

The article was from back in January and included the photo, meaning it wasn’t from last friday.

OK, misunderstood. I agree the photo is from 1968, though.

148 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 6:08:00pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

And Godzilla comes close, but falls 1.8 million dollars short of Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s 95 million dollar opening weekend.

For those who have seen this version of Godzilla, is it worth seeing?

Really good review of it by the guy who does Schlock Mercenary (I’m sure you know that one :) schlockmercenary.com

149 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 6:08:35pm

re: #144 Justanotherhuman

What kind of material is that? I have a lot of cast iron, but I like stainless steel pots, too.

I don’t know! Not cast iron. Hard Anodized Non Stick???? I just looked that up.

Non stick and it is heavy. Therefore 2 handles.

150 Kragar  May 18, 2014 6:10:03pm

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

OK, misunderstood. I agree the photo is from 1968, though.

I couldn’t find the original, but did find it earlier than this weekend, so now I know, thanks

151 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 6:10:06pm

re: #137 Feline Fearless Leader

Next up. A few shots from a statue garden behind the Art Museum while the cherry blossoms were out.

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That first statue… Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben?

152 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:10:10pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a Getty image from June 19, 1968.

sojo.net

Yeah, those people are dressed much nicer in 1968 than those “patriots” in 2014, too. : )

153 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 6:11:50pm

re: #138 Kid A

#baseballisbetter is trending.

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The only game that makes it’s parent, cricket, seem exciting.

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2014 6:13:23pm
155 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 6:14:31pm

re: #138 Kid A

#baseballisbetter is trending.

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Hockey: Chicago Blackhawks

Baseball: Chicago Cubs

Enough said.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:17:03pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

That first statue… Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben?

Yes. The other is John Paul Jones. I mis-labeled it at Barry, but his is a different statue in that garden.

157 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:20:38pm

Still around the Art Museum - looking at the Waterworks, dam, and Boathouse Row on the Schuylkill River. Plus a nice view of the architecture of part of the Art Museum itself.

Waterworks and Boathouse Row. The “bulge” in the background is the top of a balloon over at the Zoo.

158 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:23:04pm

re: #138 Kid A

#baseballisbetter is trending.

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All bat and ball games, baseball, cricket and rounders, had their origins in old English folk games.

en.wikipedia.org

159 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 6:23:12pm

re: #157 Feline Fearless Leader

Love the color in the stone in the bottom shot

160 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 18, 2014 6:23:17pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

I’m not much of a sports fan, but aside from a small number of Olympic events that I only cars about every 4 years, hockey is the only sport I could actually sit through for the whole game. The few baseball games I’ve ever seen seem to consist of 3 minutes of actual game activity, followed by 20 minutes of the coach shooting the shit with the pitcher, after which there will be another 3 minutes of activity. ZzzzzzZzz.

161 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 6:26:25pm

*small bell ringing*
Refreshments and appetizers by the pool. The bar is open.
Anyone making anything special for Sunday dinner? Marinating flap steak here.

162 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:26:26pm

re: #160 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I’m not much of a sports fan, but aside from a small number of Olympic events that I only cars about every 4 years, hockey is the only sport I could actually sit through for the whole game. The few baseball games I’ve ever seen seem to consist of 3 minutes of actual game activity, followed by 20 minutes of the coach shooting the shit with the pitcher, after which there will be another 3 minutes of activity. ZzzzzzZzz.

Baseball was actually better 65 yrs ago. My dad took me to a couple of games in Buffalo and I thought they were great. The most exciting one was where Hopalong Cassidy made an appearance, though. Hey, I was 8 or 9 at the time. : )

163 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:29:05pm

re: #159 Rightwingconspirator

Love the color in the stone in the bottom shot

That’s probably why I took the shot. Blue sky behind it and the light was good for making the color stand out.

My brother knew what it was geologically and had a general idea where it had been quarried. If I recall correctly it’s a dolomite (metamorphized limestone) and it contains visible fossil traces.

164 Skip Intro  May 18, 2014 6:29:41pm

re: #161 Rightwingconspirator

*small bell ringing*
Refreshments and appetizers by the pool. The bar is open.
Anyone making anything special for Sunday dinner? Marinating flap steak here.

Great! I’ve brought along the entertainment.

165 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 6:32:02pm

re: #164 Skip Intro

Didn’t he used to be in the band with the worlds tiniest violin?

166 Kragar  May 18, 2014 6:32:40pm

I can’t imagine any scenario where I actually chose to sit down and watch a game of baseball.

167 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 6:35:31pm
168 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:35:54pm

Two composition shots - featuring a cat and a calendar. The main difference is which object is in sharp focus.

Not sure which I like better, I guess it’s whether the cat or the Chat Noir is the main focus.

169 Randall Gross  May 18, 2014 6:36:09pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

I’m betting he’s one of those massholes.

170 A Mom Anon  May 18, 2014 6:37:23pm

re: #166 Kragar

Eh, if your kid was into it you’d figure it out. Hey, that’s why we have i pads and Kindle Fires now, lol.

171 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 6:38:28pm

re: #169 Randall Gross

I’m betting he’s one of those massholes.

Libertarianism poisons everything.

172 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2014 6:39:02pm

re: #168 Feline Fearless Leader

Two composition shots - featuring a cat and a calendar. The main difference is which object is in sharp focus.

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Not sure which I like better, I guess it’s whether the cat or the Chat Noir is the main focus.

I prefer the first one. It has a strong central focus and interest area. The second one, to me, is a bit ‘blah’. The out-of-focus foreground overpowers the in-focus image. I like the position of the cat better in the First one too, it more closely parallels the position of the cat in the poster.

But that’s just me, and I think the Pontiac Aztec was cool looking.

RBS

173 b.d.  May 18, 2014 6:39:39pm

STOP SIGNS ARE OPPRESSIVE

174 Kragar  May 18, 2014 6:40:18pm

re: #170 A Mom Anon

Eh, if your kid was into it you’d figure it out. Hey, that’s why we have i pads and Kindle Fires now, lol.

Luckily, my kids are as adverse to boredom as I am

175 A Mom Anon  May 18, 2014 6:40:32pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

What the fresh hell is wrong with this idiot? I defy him to come where I live and ride a bike with no helmet AND roll through red lights and all the 4 way stops in the area. We have a few miles of bike lanes around here, but I sold my bike when my son was little because the area has become so busy and the roads have gone from 2 lanes to 4.

Seriously, if you’re really THAT offended by wearing a helmet maybe you should just stick to driving a car. Oh, and try not to run red lights while you’re doing it.

176 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 6:41:53pm

re: #164 Skip Intro

Great! I’ve brought along the entertainment.

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Great gif. Where did you find that?

177 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:41:57pm

re: #173 b.d.

STOP SIGNS ARE OPPRESSIVE

All signs are oppressive.

178 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 6:43:42pm

re: #168 Feline Fearless Leader

Two composition shots - featuring a cat and a calendar. The main difference is which object is in sharp focus.

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[Embedded image]

Not sure which I like better, I guess it’s whether the cat or the Chat Noir is the main focus.

Awesome photos. Cat, because Chat Noir is pretty familiar.

179 Skip Intro  May 18, 2014 6:44:24pm

re: #176 Rightwingconspirator

Great gif. Where did you find that?

I, uh, borrowed it from another site.

180 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 6:44:49pm

re: #168 Feline Fearless Leader

I like the top one if only because the cat on the poster is looking the same way ans the cat. Tough call.

181 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 6:45:02pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

This Vox “expert” doesn’t just want cyclists to ride without helmets - he wants them to be able to run red lights.

If he wants to do that, let him knock himself out.

182 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:45:14pm

re: #175 A Mom Anon

What the fresh hell is wrong with this idiot? I defy him to come where I live and ride a bike with no helmet AND roll through red lights and all the 4 way stops around here. We have a few miles of bike lanes around here, but I sold my bike when my son was little because the area has become so busy and the roads have gone from 2 lanes to 4.

Seriously, if you’re really THAT offended by wearing a helmet maybe you should just stick to driving a car. Oh, and try not to run red lights while you’re doing it.

When I took a walk yesterday I saw three solid blocks of designated “bike lane” blocked.

Moving van sitting there with its flashers on (no one around it). Some lady who parked her BMW there while she went into the local market. And two blocks that were cards with placards for the local synagogue, and a bunch of people who saw other cars parked and parked there themselves. They were getting a pleasant surprise soon afterwards since I saw the Philadelphia Parking Authority working their away along the block. (That side of the street is marked - No Stopping At Any Time.) I presume the synagogue has an exemption for services on Saturday.

183 b_sharp  May 18, 2014 6:46:40pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

Libertarianism poisons everything.

salon.com

184 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:46:56pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Youtube Video

With musical accompaniment.

185 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 6:47:18pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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Given the sorts of assholes on bikes who have nearly run into me over the years, I’d rather that red lights remain as ‘stop’ for bicycles.

186 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 6:47:56pm

re: #180 Rightwingconspirator

I like the top one if only because the cat on the poster is looking the same way ans the cat. Tough call.

I’d like to get my other cat into that pose in front of the poster since he is solid black. :)

187 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 6:48:13pm

As a bicyclist, do I come to a full and complete stop at every stop sign in a quiet neighborhood? No, I do not.

But I am damned careful to make sure there are no cars around when I do that, and it’s not because I’m afraid of getting hit, or afraid of getting a perfectly legitimate ticket. It’s because nothing makes cycling more dangerous than careless or spiteful drivers, and nothing makes drivers hate bikers more than jackasses who duck through traffic and ignore signals.

Seriously, fuck those people. It takes me a month of careful, illuminated, courteous, DOT-orange-wearing biking to make up for one fuckhead who makes a driver spill coffee on themselves with a rapid lane-change or panic stop.

I don’t know if Vox is trolling for pageviews or something, Malaysia Flight Whatever Number style, but this is really pathetic and rage-inducing. It makes me have to work that much harder to cover for the shitheads.

188 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 6:49:34pm

Jerry Vale had a great voice. RIP. I remember all those songs from childhood.

Youtube Video

189 BongCrodny  May 18, 2014 6:49:37pm

Things I learned from Peter Jackson’s “The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug”:

1) When going on a quest, it is critically important to take along a hobbit. They figure out everything.

2) Closing a door will stop a rampaging bear creature.

3) Orcs are really, really overrated. Sure, they talk a good game, and scowl like your constipated grandmother, but for fierce “take no prisoners” warriors, they don’t really ever seem to kill anyone. Also, they die by the truckload.

4) It’s quite easy to survive a burst of dragonfire. I haven’t quite calculated the relative ease, but it seems to be comparable to outrunning charging Wargs when you’re on foot.

5) Evangeline Lilly is really elfing hot, if you get my drift.

6) A novel that you never want to end and a movie where you go “When the hell does this thing end?” are not the same thing.

190 Randall Gross  May 18, 2014 6:51:03pm

In that pic from #OAS there’s a banner with Hillary’s face and the infamous bloody red hand used as a symbol by terror groups in Ramallah. That’s sad and disgusting.

en.wikipedia.org

191 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 6:52:13pm

re: #188 Justanotherhuman

Jerry Vale had a great voice. RIP. I remember all those songs from childhood.

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Video

Just listened. Did not know the guy. Sure my elders did. RIP.

192 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 6:53:15pm

Apparently Joseph Stromberg is also a writer for the batshit insane antiwar.com libertarian site.

Yup. Hard core paleo-libertarian here.

194 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 6:54:48pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

Apparently Joseph Stromberg is also a writer for the batshit insane antiwar.com libertarian site.

Yup. Hard core paleo-libertarian here.

And I thought they were just Juice-hating assholes, like Stormfront.

195 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 6:55:15pm

re: #187 Testy Toad T

As a bicyclist, do I come to a full and complete stop at every stop sign in a quiet neighborhood? No, I do not.

But I am damned careful to make sure there are no cars around when I do that, and it’s not because I’m afraid of getting hit, or afraid of getting a perfectly legitimate ticket. It’s because nothing makes cycling more dangerous than careless or spiteful drivers, and nothing makes drivers hate bikers more than jackasses who duck through traffic and ignore signals.

Seriously, fuck those people. It takes me a month of careful, illuminated, courteous, DOT-orange-wearing biking to make up for one fuckhead who makes a driver spill coffee on themselves with a rapid lane-change or panic stop.

I don’t know if Vox is trolling for pageviews or something, Malaysia Flight Whatever Number style, but this is really pathetic and rage-inducing. It makes me have to work that much harder to cover for the shitheads.

You’ll never see the Mercedes that has your name on it.

196 Randall Gross  May 18, 2014 6:55:43pm

re: #194 Pie-onist Overlord

And I thought they were just Juice-hating assholes, like Stormfront.

Those guys (Raimondo etc. ) trail all the way back to Paul Weyrich believe it or not.

197 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 6:57:39pm

re: #187 Testy Toad T

All that goes for pedestrians too, by the way. Don’t be surprised when drivers treat you like meat-based bowling pins if you antagonize them. Doesn’t make it right, but it does make it smart. Jaywalk when nobody’s around. Don’t piss people off.

198 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 6:59:04pm

A Korean friend told me that you are responsible for the subsequent actions and consequences of any life you save. I’ll never tell a libertarian to stop on red.

199 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 6:59:47pm

Well, today this happened.

My #3 son called and said he would like to come with his family for Shavuot, which this year is June 4-5.

So happily I baked a huge pile of challah using entire 5-lb bag of flour.

And as I was bagging & putting away the beautiful nice loaves I suddenly realized OH NOES MY DIL IS VEGAN AND ALL TEH BREADS HAVE EGG IN THEM!!!

So I will have to bake some extra rolls without egg in them. I have this recipe with whole wheat and butternut squash that I have been waiting to try out.

And a blueberry pie in addition to Teh Traditional Cheesecakes.

200 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 7:00:42pm

His name also comes up in connection with Critical Mass, which is incredibly not surprising.

201 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 7:00:53pm

re: #199 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, today this happened.

My #3 son called and said he would like to come with his family for Shavuot, which this year is June 4-5.

So happily I baked a huge pile of challah using entire 5-lb bag of flour.

And as I was bagging & putting away the beautiful nice loaves I suddenly realized OH NOES MY DIL IS VEGAN AND ALL TEH BREADS HAVE EGG IN THEM!!!

So I will have to bake some extra rolls without egg in them. I have this recipe with whole wheat and butternut squash that I have been waiting to try out.

And a blueberry pie in addition to Teh Traditional Cheesecakes.

Couldn’t you just get the chickens to sign a waiver of responsibility?

202 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 7:03:49pm

re: #201 Decatur Deb

Couldn’t you just get the chickens to sign a waiver of responsibility?

You are responsible for the future actions of any chickens that you save in the course of being a vegan.

203 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 7:05:10pm

re: #202 Testy Toad T

You are responsible for the actions of any chickens that you save in the course of being a vegan.

Thinking an unfertilized egg is just sort of a tragic chicken miscarriage.

205 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 7:07:28pm

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Thinking an unfertilized egg is just sort of a tragic chicken miscarriage.

HURR HURR IT TEH CHICKEN ABORTION!!!!!!!

206 Kragar  May 18, 2014 7:11:52pm

What we all need is “THE CHICKEN OF TOMORROW!”

Youtube Video

207 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2014 7:12:01pm

re: #204 Varek Raith

Why The Church Of Satan May Get To Open Your City Council’s Next Meeting With A Prayer To The Devil
Tee-hee.

You’d think the Supreme Court justices would know where this was heading simply from the way things have gone regarding holiday displays on public grounds.

Soon the various groups will just ban having opening prayers to avoid having to give minority religious groups equal opportunity - and they will whine about it a lot. (Though no opening prayer is just fine with me.)

208 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2014 7:12:08pm
209 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 18, 2014 7:12:54pm

the present level of extreme narcissism by American dudebro culture like Snowden and Greeny is being played like a fiddle by Russian Intelligence. But despite the martyrdom rhetoric from these dudebro types there really is no fallout or repercussions that seem to be made manifest.

When one is faced with the decision to continuously attack an entity that celebrates freedom and is by definition an open society (despite its warts) like the USA and ignore a truly authoritarian espionage-based system like Putin’s Russia or a Plutocratic China, this is not bravery. This is called cowardice.

And I guess these days, cowardice $$$ pays.

210 Testy Toad T  May 18, 2014 7:13:06pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

And nothing of value was lost.

211 Varek Raith  May 18, 2014 7:13:45pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dear Drudge,
The internet is forever.

212 Belafon  May 18, 2014 7:13:51pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

I see they neither get the laws of physics nor the problems associated with an increase in population density. What works in Idaho will not work in NYC or Dallas. Laws of the road that worked in the 1960s will not work in 2014.

Being generous, maybe they think there hasn’t been enough natural selection in the human population.

213 Ryan King  May 18, 2014 7:13:57pm

re: #129 Kragar

January at a MLK event

concordmonitor.com

Wow, look at all those Black Republicans!

214 Pie-onist Overlord  May 18, 2014 7:14:59pm

re: #213 Ryan King

Wow, look at all those Black Republicans!

HURR HURR!!!!! WHY IS TEH LIBRUL MEDIA NOT REPORTIN THIS!!!!!!

215 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 7:15:34pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

Drudge Deletes All His Tweets, Leaves One Mysterious Clue

Profound loss to Literature.

216 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 18, 2014 7:16:55pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

Profound loss to literature.

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good! Now if he’d just do us all a solid and delete that 1990s era web site he runs.

217 Ryan King  May 18, 2014 7:21:05pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

Profound loss to ILLiterature.

Cuz he be illin like Bob Dylan.

218 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2014 7:22:12pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Has he had an epiphany? : )

219 Lidane  May 18, 2014 7:23:15pm

Tonight’s episode of Cosmos will, as always, get the derp flowing. Aside from the show pointing out in its first five minutes that the Gilgamesh myth came almost 1000 years before the tale of Noah’s Ark, there were lots of other statements that will definitely piss off the RWNJs. I can’t wait.

Oh, and the next episode? It’s all about AGW. Should be a hoot.

220 Floral Giraffe  May 18, 2014 7:27:10pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, I live between 2 of the most bike unfriendly cities in Ca. I don’t have a solution for them, but the bikers are safest on Sundays! Less traffic.

221 Kragar  May 18, 2014 7:27:32pm

re: #219 Lidane

Tonight’s episode of Cosmos will, as always, get the derp flowing. Aside from the show pointing out in its first five minutes that the Gilgamesh myth came almost 1000 years before the tale of Noah’s Ark, there were lots of other statements that will definitely piss off the RWNJs. I can’t wait.

Oh, and the next episode? It’s all about AGW. Should be a hoot.

Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World

222 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 7:28:08pm

re: #219 Lidane

Tonight’s episode of Cosmos will, as always, get the derp flowing. Aside from the show pointing out in its first five minutes that the Gilgamesh myth came almost 1000 years before the tale of Noah’s Ark, there were lots of other statements that will definitely piss off the RWNJs. I can’t wait.

Oh, and the next episode? It’s all about AGW. Should be a hoot.

MacFarlane tweeted earlier that it was an episode not to miss.

223 jaunte  May 18, 2014 7:29:03pm
224 teleskiguy  May 18, 2014 7:29:41pm
225 Lidane  May 18, 2014 7:31:59pm

re: #222 Stanley Sea

MacFarlane tweeted earlier that it was an episode not to miss.

Oh definitely. I think it’s my favorite one so far.

The show keeps getting better and better. It’s such a bummer that it’s only a limited series.

226 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 7:32:53pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

oh my

227 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 7:36:34pm

Is it just me or does this wingnut state senator from Mississippi, Chris McDaniel (who’s also running for the U.S. Senate in 2014), look freakishly like what you’d expect the offspring of GG & Rick Perry to look like if they could procreate? //

228 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2014 7:41:27pm

re: #190 Randall Gross

In that pic from #OAS there’s a banner with Hillary’s face and the infamous bloody red hand used as a symbol by terror groups in Ramallah. That’s sad and disgusting.

en.wikipedia.org

Bloody hand? Make sure you run at once if any Celestials show up.

Image: 61_48thSD_Grigori2.jpg

Image: 30_jalphoenix_43rdShadow_Seraph_2.jpg

229 Internet Tough Guy  May 18, 2014 7:42:00pm

re: #227 CuriousLurker

Id say more like teh GG and Rand Paul myself.

230 teleskiguy  May 18, 2014 7:44:02pm

Holy shit I just found out Matt Drudge deleted all of his (very carefully curated at) 100 tweets, except for one. I saw it in my feed and just haphazardly left a reply with a manual RT. Now I’m prominently displayed at the comments section of Matt Drudge’s only tweet.

231 Stanley Sea  May 18, 2014 7:44:14pm

re: #227 CuriousLurker

Is it just me or does this wingnut state senator from Mississippi, Chris McDaniel (who’s also running for the U.S. Senate in 2014), look freakishly like what you’d expect the offspring of GG & Rick Perry to look like if they could procreate? //

Speaking of Rick Perry (he’s going to run again, oops)

232 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 7:46:05pm

re: #229 Internet Tough Guy

Yeah, now that you mention it, him too. In some of the pics. The hair is Rick Perry-ish though.

233 Gus  May 18, 2014 7:46:09pm

Hahaha!

and

234 Gus  May 18, 2014 7:49:29pm

Another idiot.

Wearing a helmet does nothing to prevent you from being hit by a car.

235 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2014 7:50:44pm

re: #234 Gus

Another idiot.

Wearing a helmet does nothing to prevent you from being hit by a car.

Wearing a parachute does nothing to keep your engine from grenading.

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2014 7:50:56pm
237 teleskiguy  May 18, 2014 7:52:17pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

It’s a good thing LGF keeps the texts of tweets if they’re deleted.

Case in point.

238 Mattand  May 18, 2014 7:52:56pm

re: #182 Feline Fearless Leader

When I took a walk yesterday I saw three solid blocks of designated “bike lane” blocked.

Moving van sitting there with its flashers on (no one around it). Some lady who parked her BMW there while she went into the local market. And two blocks that were cards with placards for the local synagogue, and a bunch of people who saw other cars parked and parked there themselves. They were getting a pleasant surprise soon afterwards since I saw the Philadelphia Parking Authority working their away along the block. (That side of the street is marked - No Stopping At Any Time.) I presume the synagogue has an exemption for services on Saturday.

I am convinced the PPA are descended from a race of wizards who have mastered teleportation. If you even think about parking illegally, you turn around and see your car plastered with 18 tickets.

239 Lidane  May 18, 2014 7:53:15pm

re: #234 Gus

Another idiot.

Wearing a helmet does nothing to prevent you from being hit by a car.

Dear idiot,

No shit. It won’t stop the car from hitting you, but it might just stop your brain from splattering on the side of the road. Moron.

No love,
Me

240 Gus  May 18, 2014 7:55:37pm

Ride safely. And remember that severe bike accidents are quite rare, and bike deaths are even rarer. (In Canada, more people die by falling out of bed (an average of 78 per year) than from cycling accidents (an average of 64 a year, or 2 per million per year); 5 times as many die from falling on stairs; and 2.5 times as many die from tripping and falling on level surfaces [source: Statistics Canada’s reports on external causes of morbidity and mortality, 2000—2003].)

241 Gus  May 18, 2014 7:56:30pm

re: #239 Lidane

Dear idiot,

No shit. It won’t stop the car from hitting you, but it might just stop your brain from splattering on the side of the road. Moron.

No love,
Me

Anti-helmet people are a strange bunch. They remind me of Ron Paul.

242 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 7:57:52pm
243 Lidane  May 18, 2014 7:58:06pm

re: #219 Lidane

It begins!

Haha. Awesome. I can’t wait for the AGW episode. The wankery will be glorious.

244 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 7:58:16pm
245 teleskiguy  May 18, 2014 7:58:37pm

re: #240 Gus

Ride safely. And remember that severe bike accidents are quite rare, and bike deaths are even rarer. (In Canada, more people die by falling out of bed (an average of 78 per year) than from cycling accidents (an average of 64 a year, or 2 per million per year); 5 times as many die from falling on stairs; and 2.5 times as many die from tripping and falling on level surfaces [source: Statistics Canada’s reports on external causes of morbidity and mortality, 2000—2003].)

Dude, I think this nails the essence of “explanatory journalism.” I salute you.

246 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 7:59:35pm
247 b_sharp  May 18, 2014 8:00:11pm

re: #241 Gus

Anti-helmet people are a strange bunch. They remind me of Ron Paul.

Or Gary Busey.

248 Rightwingconspirator  May 18, 2014 8:04:11pm

re: #247 b_sharp

Or Gary Busey.

You just have to get him to talk to the helmet.
*so hoping that weird commercial runs national and Canada*

249 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:04:51pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

Dude, I think this nails the essence of “explanatory journalism.” I salute you.

From a blog.

250 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 8:05:51pm

Spoke to my son in NC a little while ago. He went to his first NASCAR event in Charlotte this weekend. *whimper*

I told him that if he ever votes Republican he can consider himself disowned. //

251 b_sharp  May 18, 2014 8:07:08pm

re: #248 Rightwingconspirator

You just have to get him to talk to the helmet.
*so hoping that weird commercial runs national and Canada*

Yup, it’s here.

252 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:07:42pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

He’ll be fine. I’ve been to one and survived.

253 b_sharp  May 18, 2014 8:08:07pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Spoke to my son in NC a little while ago. He went to his first NASCAR event in Charlotte this weekend. *whimper*

I told him that if he ever votes Republican he can consider himself disowned. //

I love car racing. I used to watch F1, Champ and IRL.

Never voted conservative.

254 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 8:08:09pm
255 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 8:08:27pm

re: #248 Rightwingconspirator

You just have to get him to talk to the helmet.
*so hoping that weird commercial runs national and Canada*

Yep, runs here too. At least on the internet it does (I never watch shows on TV).

256 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 8:08:53pm

Unreal. This guy tried to tell me I was misrepresenting an article by quoting its exact headline word for word.

257 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:09:35pm

Paraphrasing?

258 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 8:09:50pm

This is why I have a very itchy block finger on Twitter. There’s no point with some of these people.

259 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:09:56pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Spoke to my son in NC a little while ago. He went to his first NASCAR event in Charlotte this weekend. *whimper*

I told him that if he ever votes Republican he can consider himself disowned. //

Hey, if all he did was go to a NASCAR race, count yourself lucky. ;-P

Seriously, it’s one thing to watch a race on TV, but another altogether to be at the track in the stands; I’ve watched races at a couple of the short tracks here in Nashville (Fairgrounds Speedway and Highland Rim Speedway) and, while it’s been years since I’ve gone to one, it’s a total blast.

260 teleskiguy  May 18, 2014 8:10:27pm

re: #249 Gus

From a blog.

I’m starting a blog called 420NO MARIJUANA KILLS and I’ll post a bunch of jibber-jabber that “1000 people died in Denver today from pot overdoses” and “Accidental ingestion of poison pot smoke will require a blood transfusion so you don’t go insane.” Stuff like that. Because blogs are the forefront of good quality information!

The Twitter hashtag #420NO is pretty hysterical in this respect.

261 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:10:50pm

re: #259 TedStriker

I was amazed with all the noise that some fans could go to sleep while they waited a few dozen laps for someone to make a move.

262 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 8:12:50pm

re: #259 TedStriker

Hey, if all he did was go to a NASCAR race, count yourself lucky. ;-P

Seriously, it’s one thing to watch a race on TV, but another altogether to be at the track; I’ve watched races at a couple of the short tracks here in Nashville (Fairgrounds Speedway and Highland Rim) and, while it’s been years since I’ve gone to one, it’s a total blast.

That’s what he said, that it’s SO different from TV and how they go really, really fast. He said it was some kind All Stars thing where it was only the best drivers and the number of laps were shorter than usual (or something like that).

263 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:13:22pm

re: #261 jaunte

I was amazed with all the noise that some fans could go to sleep while they waited a few dozen laps for someone to make a move.

That may happen at races on superspeedways like Talledega, but I’ve never seen it happen at any short track race I’ve been at.

264 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:15:50pm

re: #263 TedStriker

I saw it at the Charlotte Motor Speedway. Long, long races.

265 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:16:45pm

re: #262 CuriousLurker

That’s what he said, that it’s SO different from TV and how they go really, really fast. He said it was some kind All Stars thing where it was only the best drivers and the number of laps were shorter than usual (or something like that).

It’s all quite primal…the sounds, the smells, the action on the track and in the pits, the fans in the stands. Even at a really small short track (like Highland Rim Speedway here, a short oval only 1/3 of a mile long), there’s just a certain something.

266 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:17:12pm

re: #262 CuriousLurker

NASCAR All-Star Race:
usatoday.com

267 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:19:00pm

re: #257 jaunte

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Paraphrasing?

268 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:20:04pm

re: #262 CuriousLurker

The other strange NASCAR thing I recall were the groups of anti-fans who stood up every lap to yell “Kyle Busch sucks!”

269 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:21:11pm

270 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:22:30pm

re: #264 jaunte

I saw it at the Charlotte Motor Speedway. Long, long races.

See, that’s why I wouldn’t want to go to a superspeedway race…too long and drawn out.

271 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 8:24:03pm

re: #265 TedStriker

It’s all quite primal…the sounds, the smells, the fans in the stands. Even at a really small short track (like Highland Rim Speedway here), there’s just a certain something.

He mentioned something about the crowds and about walking across some sort of bridge/footpath that swayed because of all the people. I think—as soon as he said NASCAR my eyes kinda glazed over and I only heard about every 3rd word ‘cause I was suddenly preoccupied with imagining him morphing into a knuckle-dragging, wingnut marching on DC and sending me Fwd:Fwd:Fwd emails about HAARP & Freemasons & chemtrails. LOL

Well, at least we know now why OAS was a flop—they were all at NASCAR! //

272 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:26:37pm

273 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2014 8:27:35pm

Ugh, time to start preparing for Monday. Besides, it looks like there’s a shiny new thread up now, so that’s my signal to depart.

Have a good night, lizards.

274 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:28:58pm

re: #273 CuriousLurker

Ugh, time to start preparing for Monday. Besides, it looks like there’s a shiny new thread up now, so that’s my signal to depart.

Have a good night, lizards.

Hasta mañana…

275 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2014 8:41:44pm

I’m so old I still associate “OAS” with the Organisation de l’armée secrète, a very nasty French terrorist gang that opposed Algerian independence in the early 1960s.
The OAS operated mostly within the French army and had few if any scruples about its methods. They tried to assassinate President Charles DeGaulle and writer Jean-Paul Sartre and did assassinate many others. At one point in 1962, the OAS was setting off more than a hundred bombs a day. They gleefully massacred Arabs and routinely killed french civilians and fellow French soldiers. One fight between OAS gunmen and loyal troops resulted in 35 fatalities. The organization was eventually broken up and its members imprisoned. Several OAS hitmen were executed but the leaders, including General Raoul Salan, got off lightly in comparison to the atrocities they had committed. Salan was sentenced to death, but this was commuted to life imprisonment. He was released in 1968 and re-instated in the army at his former rank in 1982. He died of natural causes in 1984.
In later years, OAS veterans were a factor in many, many anti-insurgency and subversion operations in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.
The OAS still has a supposed presence in French right wing circles. It is generally “credited” with inventing the car bomb, or at least popularizing it.

276 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 19, 2014 5:00:54am

re: #35 Testy Toad T

The emerged Libertarian ideal is that there should be no such thing as “countries” anyway. Anything that weakens the concept of “country” or “nation” is worthy of advancing, even if other countries’ Intelligence and punishment methods and like Russia or China go far beyond what is acceptable in the US. It negates the inconvenience of having to play the moral equivalency game. It is the ultimate Utopia of Dudebro Libertarians.

It is the “citizen of the world” concept re-imagined and packaged for the hard right wing, in Bizzaro-world.

277 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 19, 2014 5:38:51am

re: #114 Skip Intro

their only experience with a real totalitarian state is the one in their minds they wish to inflict “re-establish back to the Original (Christian) Constitution”.


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