Overnight Short Documentary: Portrait of My Grandfather: 80 and Still Cycling

A birthday gift
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A short documentary film about my grandfather and his passion for cycling. I made this as a gift for his 80th birthday (or his ‘4th 20th birthday’, as he likes to say).

Filming and editing : Florent Piovesan
Titles : Ams

Music :
Cliff Martinez - He Had A Good Time
Cliff Martinez - I Drive
Mike Patton - Snow Angel

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455 comments
1 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 8:23:33pm

Notice: he wears a helmet.

2 Alyosha  May 18, 2014 8:26:51pm

Government stooge…
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3 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:30:28pm

re: #2 Alyosha

Government stooge…
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4 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:31:23pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Notice: he wears a helmet.

re: #2 Alyosha

Government stooge…
//

Totally in the clutches of Dark Big Helmet…

5 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:31:42pm

re: #3 Gus

Join helmet or die.

6 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:34:28pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Notice: he wears a helmet.

7 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 8:35:39pm

My Best Friend, she fell head over heels for the person her parents found for her in Pakistan.

She decided to stay. Without anyone to share things with, I cancelled most summer plans.

I didn’t get the job either. I am going to have all but two friends leave by July. Meaning I am stuck at a stressful customer service job, with low pay, no-one to share things with, and being a failure of a human being.

Because, why else would my heart be crushed like this. She will still talk to me, and plan on vacations here, but I can’t go anywhere with them.

I just want something good to last for once. But it isn’t in the cards.

8 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 8:36:03pm

That was one of the more freakish exchanges I’ve had on Twitter. Being accused of taking something out of context by quoting the exact words. Wow. Are these people drunk or something?

9 Alyosha  May 18, 2014 8:36:17pm

Information hair wants to be free!

10 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:37:01pm

re: #5 jaunte

Join helmet or die.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to not wear a cycling helmet shall not be infringed.

11 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:42:01pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

That was one of the more freakish exchanges I’ve had on Twitter. Being accused of taking something out of context by quoting the exact words. Wow. Are these people drunk or something?

Vox is already a club.

12 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:43:03pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

That was one of the more freakish exchanges I’ve had on Twitter. Being accused of taking something out of context by quoting the exact words. Wow. Are these people drunk or something?

‘Completely insane’ fits.

13 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:43:23pm

re: #10 Gus

We can’t just criticize the author’s actual written words without also factoring in the subtle emanations of their unspoken positive intentions.

14 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:44:04pm
15 Lidane  May 18, 2014 8:44:21pm

re: #4 TedStriker

Even Dark Helmet knows that wearing a helmet helps:

Youtube Video

Heh.

16 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:44:38pm

I too have suffered the tyranny of the stop sign.

17 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:45:22pm

Head injuries, ranging from fatal skull fractures and brain damage to minor concussion and cuts, are very common injuries to cyclists. Hospital data shows that over 40% of cyclists, and 45% of child cyclists, suffer head injuries. A study of 116 fatal cyclist accidents in London and rural areas found over 70% of the cyclist fatalities in London had moderate or serious head injuries in London, and over 80% of those killed in collisions on rural roads.

18 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:46:34pm

re: #16 jaunte

I too have suffered the tyranny of the stop sign.

Don’t stop sign me bro’!

19 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 8:47:32pm

Sorry for butting in.

20 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:49:15pm

Pedestrians, cyclists among main road traffic crash victims

Half of 1.27 million people who die in road traffic crashes every year are pedestrians, motorcyclists and cyclists, finds new WHO study.

21 EmmaAnne  May 18, 2014 8:49:25pm

re: #17 Gus

Head injuries, ranging from fatal skull fractures and brain damage to minor concussion and cuts, are very common injuries to cyclists. Hospital data shows that over 40% of cyclists, and 45% of child cyclists, suffer head injuries. A study of 116 fatal cyclist accidents in London and rural areas found over 70% of the cyclist fatalities in London had moderate or serious head injuries in London, and over 80% of those killed in collisions on rural roads.

Concussion here, as well as several teeth knocked loose, leading to long-term dental problems. This was many years ago when most people didn’t wear helmets, but I certainly never went without one again.

22 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:50:31pm

re: #19 The War TARDIS

Try not to worry so much. To use your card analogy, they will keep being dealt. Just be aware when the time comes.

23 b_sharp  May 18, 2014 8:50:41pm

re: #19 The War TARDIS

Sorry for butting in.

You aren’t butting in. You’re a member of the site, but I don’t think anyone knows what to say to you.

24 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:51:26pm

Approximately 1.3 million people die each year on the world’s roads, and between 20 and 50 million sustain non-fatal injuries. The Global status report on road safety is the first broad assessment of the road safety situation in 178 countries, using data drawn from a standardized survey. The results show that road traffic injuries remain an important public health problem, particularly for low-income and middle-income countries. Pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists make up almost half of those killed on the roads, highlighting the need for these road users to be given more attention in road safety programmes. The results suggest that in many countries road safety laws need to be made more comprehensive while enforcement should be strengthened. The Global status report on road safety results clearly show that significantly more action is needed to make the world’s roads safer.

25 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 8:52:54pm

re: #22 jaunte

To use your analogy, I can’t imagine having a good deal of cards happen where it isn’t reversed two hands later.

I feel like The Doctor in the The Snowman.

Except I know for a fact there will be no Clara.

26 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 8:54:47pm

re: #19 The War TARDIS

Sorry for butting in.

Don’t be. I noticed. If you wish, I’ll add you to my daily prayers?

27 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 8:55:00pm

Uh oh, that dudebro’s throwing a little fit because I blocked and started ignoring him. Now I’m supposed to “own up to what I did.” Un-freaking-real.

28 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 8:56:11pm

re: #22 jaunte

Try not to worry so much. To use your card analogy, they will keep being dealt. Just be aware when the time comes.

True enough. I’m in the middle of some seriously shitty hands. I’ve had good ones & worse ones though and tomorrow is another day. As long as I’m on this side of the daisies, I’m happy.

29 Gus  May 18, 2014 8:56:30pm

Pedestrians, cyclists among main road traffic crash victims
Half of 1.27 million people who die in road traffic crashes every year are pedestrians, motorcyclists and cyclists, finds new WHO study.

News release

15 June 2006 | Geneva/New York - The first global assessment of road safety finds that almost half of the estimated 1.27 million people who die in road traffic crashes every year are pedestrians, motorcyclists and cyclists. While progress has been made towards protecting people in cars, the needs of these vulnerable groups of road users are not being met.

The Global status report on road safety published today provides the first worldwide analysis of how well countries are implementing a number of effective road safety measures. These include limiting speed, reducing drink-driving, and increasing the use of seatbelts, child restraints and motorcycle helmets. Funded by Bloomberg Philanthropies, the report presents information from 178 countries, accounting for over 98% of the world’s population. It uses a standardized method that allows comparisons between countries to be made.

“We found that in many countries, the laws necessary to protect people are either not in place or are not comprehensive. And even when there is adequate legislation, most countries report that their enforcement is low,” said WHO Director-General Dr Margaret Chan. “We are not giving sufficient attention to the needs of pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists many of whom end up in clinics and hospitals. We must do better if we are to halt or reverse the rise in road traffic injuries, disability and deaths.”

Continues.

30 TedStriker  May 18, 2014 8:56:42pm

re: #15 Lidane

Even Dark Helmet knows that wearing a helmet helps:

[Embedded content]

Video

Heh.

Indeed…

/”Smoke if you got ‘em!” *thud*

31 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 8:57:37pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Uh oh, that dudebro’s throwing a little fit because I blocked and started ignoring him. Now I’m supposed to “own up to what I did.” Un-freaking-real.

If I tweeted I’d go laugh at him. But that’s one of the biggest reasons I don’t. I have better things to do with my life than piss into the wind at dudebros on Twitter.

32 jaunte  May 18, 2014 8:58:24pm

LIES!

33 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2014 8:59:38pm

With your indulgence, a re-post from the dead thread.

Someone mentioned being old enough to associate the initials “OAS” with the Organization of American States.
Well, I’m so old I still associate “OAS” with the Organisation de l’armée secrète, a very nasty French terrorist gang that opposed Algerian independence in the early 1960s.
The OAS operated mostly within the French army and had few if any scruples about its methods. They tried to assassinate President Charles DeGaulle and writer Jean-Paul Sartre and did assassinate many others. At one point in 1962, the OAS was setting off more than a hundred bombs a day. They gleefully massacred Arabs and routinely killed french civilians and fellow French soldiers. One fight between OAS gunmen and loyal troops resulted in 35 fatalities.
The organization was eventually broken up and its members imprisoned. Several OAS hitmen were executed but the leaders, including General Raoul Salan, got off lightly in comparison to the atrocities they had committed. Salan was sentenced to death, but this was commuted to life imprisonment. He was released in 1968 and re-instated in the army at his former rank in 1982. He died of natural causes in 1984.
In later years, OAS veterans were a factor in many, many anti-insurgency and subversion operations in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.
The OAS still has a supposed presence in French right wing circles. It is generally “credited” with inventing the car bomb, or at least popularizing it.

34 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 8:59:48pm

re: #26 William Barnett-Lewis

Yeah, for a miracle.

Because half of this isn’t in my control. And when it isn’t it always goes against me.

35 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 8:59:50pm

re: #25 The War TARDIS

During the worst period of my life (thus far!) I adopted this song as my personal theme song:

Youtube Video

I still haven’t… ;)

36 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:02:26pm

re: #34 The War TARDIS

Yeah, for a miracle.

Because half of this isn’t in my control. And when it isn’t it always goes against me.

Simply being alive is a miracle to begin with. Keep using what you’ve been given and you may find more of them.

37 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 9:03:25pm

re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. I had the last of my optimism blown off today.

You will literally have to have a real-life equivalent to Clara come into my life to convince me the Universe isn’t set against me.

38 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:04:40pm
39 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:06:27pm
40 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2014 9:07:23pm

Watch - now the stalkers will contact that guy. This kind of stuff gets them all lathered up.

41 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:09:02pm

re: #37 The War TARDIS

Heh. I had the last of my optimism blown off today.

You will literally have to have a real-life equivalent to Clara come into my life to convince me the Universe isn’t set against me.

I’ve had that happen. About 19 years ago.

I’ve also had her walk away. Not nastily perhaps, but none-the-less…

Less than a month ago.

Gotta keep plugging.

42 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:12:47pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

Hadn’t thought of those slime in a very long time. Not quite old enough to know of them from the news, but I remember the first time I read “Day of the Jackal” with it’s plot against de Gaulle.

43 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:13:11pm

Conspiracy!

Excellent TEDxTalk. One of my favs. The most telling reality he describes is how auto manufacturers are pushing for bicycle helmets not because they care about the safety of bikers, but to scare people away from bicycles. The health benefits of bicycling are awesome. Bicycling is fun, freeing, good exercise and more.

From this derp: ▶ TEDxCopenhagen - Mikael Colville-Andersen - Why We Shouldn’t Bike with a Helmet - YouTube

44 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:14:40pm

Slippery slope he says!

45 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:15:46pm

He compares approving bike helmets to approving vaccines.

46 Eclectic Cyborg  May 18, 2014 9:17:13pm

I completely owned a “states rights” fool earlier tonight.

He was telling me how Federal Courts should stay out of the gay marriage issue and respect the wishes of the voters on that and anything else.

I then replied to him: “Ok, so what if the residents in New York voted to ban guns?”

I still haven’t heard back.

47 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 9:19:11pm

re: #41 William Barnett-Lewis

I don’t have the energy anymore.

All the messages I get on singlemuslim.com are all people trying to take advantage of me from overseas.

If I saw one damn sign of hope, I would get back up.

But one friend will go to England in late June. The other works for Lankford’s campaign here. Polling shows him losing, she will go elsewhere in July or August likely. Hell, I would register as Republican if I could just to make sure he wins, and she stays here a little longer.

One friend is back in August, but will graduate in May. Then gone to Pakistan.

Leaving my Imam.

My Dad was just a big a jackass as ever over the weekend, and my Grandfather is beginning to weaken mentally. Under siege from all sides, with no sign of aid.

48 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:21:47pm

“Auto manufacturers are pushing for bicycle helmets.”

Uh huh.

49 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:23:01pm

re: #47 The War TARDIS

Leaving my Imam.

I seriously can’t help you with any of the rest from here, but I can say this -

Don’t.

Right now I know my priest is the only one keeping me something resembling sane. From what I see of you across the net, I know you need that too.

I’ll just say this then I won’t mention it again: Please don’t?

50 Lidane  May 18, 2014 9:25:15pm

re: #35 William Barnett-Lewis

Excellent choice. I’m also partial to this one:

Youtube Video

It’s impossible for me to stay in a bad mood when I play it.

51 Mattand  May 18, 2014 9:25:24pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

That was one of the more freakish exchanges I’ve had on Twitter. Being accused of taking something out of context by quoting the exact words. Wow. Are these people drunk or something?

I think Newt Gingrich pulled something like back in 2011 or so. IIRC, people were pointing out that he was Team Health Insurance Mandate until Teh Seecret Muzlim in the White House™ got behind it.

I think he said something to the effect than anyone quoting his past statements were illegitimate or they weren’t factual or something.

It’s a Republican thing. I don’t get it, because I’m not brain damaged.

52 Jocko's Rocket Ship  May 18, 2014 9:32:56pm

I know what the Vox write was getting at, but it had the economist-type, removed-from-reality argument that drives me crazy. There is always initial resistance to safety laws, but they work in the long run as the action becomes the norm. A helmet is a no-brainer for bicyclists.

Also, there is no way that biking is as safe as walking or driving. I’m not going to bother backing it up because it’s obviously wrong. It’s certainly not as safe in the area we are trying to promote, commuting in urban areas. Biking in the city is intense, it takes 100% attention to every detail that change every second. I love that it’s challenging - I get locked in and my brain works faster than any other time - and that I have more control over my commute -it’s quicker by a lot - but I’m acutely aware that it’s more dangerous.

But I do agree with the Idaho law. Stop signs are yields and red lights are stop signs. If I had to stop at every stop sign, I’d quit biking. Plus, it would push bikers off side streets and onto more dangerous busy thoroughfares where they muck up traffic if there isn’t a bike lane.

53 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 9:36:20pm

re: #47 The War TARDIS

This was me taking stock of what I have at this point.

I do have one friend’s family who wants to be sure I am ok, and be happy. I am un-related uncle to my friends child.

54 darthstar  May 18, 2014 9:36:33pm

Just watched GOT: Note to contractors…forget the moon door.

55 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:38:36pm

re: #52 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

But I do agree with the Idaho law. Stop signs are yields and red lights are stop signs. If I had to stop at every stop sign, I’d quit biking. Plus, it would push bikers off side streets and onto more dangerous busy thoroughfares where they muck up traffic if there isn’t a bike lane.

The real danger in this idea? The idiot cagers (my motorcycling past is showing through & WE’RE more visible than you!) will see them doing this, find out the “justification” and start doing it too. How many dead will be needed before it’s seen as the bad idea that it is?

Yeah, coming to a full stop is a pain. But I’d rather suffer that than kiss a grill at even 20 mph. I like my legs and my head intact.

56 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:39:39pm

re: #53 The War TARDIS

And you do have us. Please do no denigrate that.

57 darthstar  May 18, 2014 9:39:45pm
58 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:40:09pm

re: #52 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

You stand. I learned how to stand on my bike.

59 b_sharp  May 18, 2014 9:40:53pm

re: #57 darthstar

We build things because we can, not because we should.

I’ve always wondered if that was possible.

60 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2014 9:41:20pm

re: #42 William Barnett-Lewis

Hadn’t thought of those slime in a very long time. Not quite old enough to know of them from the news, but I remember the first time I read “Day of the Jackal” with it’s plot against de Gaulle.

In the spring of 1962, the OAS and its depredations were the lead story for weeks on end, with footage from the previous day’s attacks jetted across the Atlantic in time for the evening news. The scale of the assault is almost unbelievable today, though its wanton cruelty set a pattern that is all too familiar these days. At one point, OAS gunmen massacred dozens of Arab cleaning ladies as they gathered at their employer’s office to be paid. The employer, a Frenchman, was also killed. Attacks on schools and even random groups of children were commonplace. Hospitals were blown up, bazaars bombed, and mortar shells were fired randomly into Arab neighborhoods. The authorities got the upper hand rather suddenly with Salan’s arrest and hundreds of terrorists were rounded up, but attacks continued at a reduced rate for the rest of the year.

61 darthstar  May 18, 2014 9:42:12pm

re: #59 b_sharp

I’ve always wondered if that was possible.

And now you can die knowing it was.

/sorry…still on Game of Thrones mode here…

62 The War TARDIS  May 18, 2014 9:44:02pm

re: #56 William Barnett-Lewis

I don’t, but things are…different in person. You can’t give hugs over the internet, and you can’t spend time in physical contact with a person.

The internet feels more cold, I guess.

Heh, it’s ironic, people talk about Autistic People having an easier time on the internet, but for me, I even eschew talking on the phone, because the voice is distorted.

I always, if I am able, communicate in person, or failing that, by text.

63 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:45:37pm

re: #57 darthstar

We build things because we can, not because we should.

Someone had to hold up both sides till the key “monitor” was put in place. That’s really wild.

64 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 9:47:51pm

re: #62 The War TARDIS

I don’t, but things are…different in person. You can’t give hugs over the internet, and you can’t spend time in physical contact with a person.

The internet feels more cold, I guess.

Heh, it’s ironic, people talk about Autistic People having an easier time on the internet, but for me, I even eschew talking on the phone, because the voice is distorted.

I always, if I am able, communicate in person, or failing that, by text.

Well, you can always send a message to wlewisiii via google mail if you desire. Can’t say how much _good_ it’ll do, but it’s there.

65 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:51:20pm
66 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:52:05pm
67 Lidane  May 18, 2014 9:53:11pm

re: #66 Gus

That sound you hear is my irony meter going ‘splodey.

68 Gus  May 18, 2014 9:54:00pm

re: #67 Lidane

That sound you hear is my irony meter going ‘splodey.

Big time! I’m laughing here. Double plus good.

69 Gus  May 18, 2014 10:02:03pm
70 SteveMcGazi  May 18, 2014 10:07:41pm

re: #62 The War TARDIS

I don’t, but things are…different in person. You can’t give hugs over the internet, and you can’t spend time in physical contact with a person.

The internet feels more cold, I guess.

Heh, it’s ironic, people talk about Autistic People having an easier time on the internet, but for me, I even eschew talking on the phone, because the voice is distorted.

I always, if I am able, communicate in person, or failing that, by text.

I’m finding out the hard way that you can’t depend on people. If you have to get something off your chest, do it here where people only know you by handle. I’ve been finding myself abandoned by everybody I know and I haven’t even done anything to deserve it. People just bailing left and right. People who said they’d be there for me don’t have room in their lives. The darndest thing was I needed so little.

71 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 10:14:12pm

“You only hear the music
When your heart begins to break”

Youtube Video

And with that, I’ll leave for the night, Goodnight & godspeed.

72 Gus  May 18, 2014 10:22:06pm
73 Jocko's Rocket Ship  May 18, 2014 10:22:53pm

re: #55 William Barnett-Lewis

Ok, just curious, where do you live and do you bike in a city?

74 Gus  May 18, 2014 10:24:28pm
75 Gus  May 18, 2014 10:32:51pm

76 piratedan  May 18, 2014 10:38:38pm

if these folks seriously think that they’re safer riding without a helmet, can they do us all a favor and activate themselves as organ donors… just because you want to be willfully stupid doesn’t mean that you still can’t be useful.

77 William Barnett-Lewis  May 18, 2014 10:46:39pm

re: #73 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

Ok, just curious, where do you live and do you bike in a city?

Now? In the boonies. I’ll even ride a bicycle to work up here because it’s not suicidal.

Before? Madison WI where we suffered from bicycle riding road rage on a weekly basis. I have little love and less respect for bicycles. I started CCW before it was legal in Wisconsin because of my fear of bicycle riders.

The worst thing though is that car drivers are even worse.

Take it as you will.

78 Gus  May 18, 2014 10:54:16pm
79 Gus  May 18, 2014 11:00:01pm
80 Kragar  May 18, 2014 11:21:55pm
81 Gus  May 18, 2014 11:27:09pm
82 Kragar  May 19, 2014 1:30:51am

How it started…

and now…

83 Alyosha  May 19, 2014 1:44:18am

re: #80 Kragar

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I always have to double-check that an imbedded Donald Trump tweet isn’t by the Donald Drumpf mock account.

Not that it makes a great deal of difference. The man is a self-parody.

84 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 3:49:47am

re: #34 The War TARDIS

Yeah, for a miracle.

Because half of this isn’t in my control. And when it isn’t it always goes against me.

I read your post above, and I’m not sure if you’re around, but I just wanted to encourage you to hang in there. I went through a pretty shitty time recently, and I seem to be on an upward trend.

One of the things that has helped me through this is a saying: “You cannot control what life and other people do, only your own reaction.”

You mentioned that you don’t have someone to do things with. Perhaps try meetup.com, or some local hobby-based group and meet some new people to do things with. I know it’s hard, but find some things you can do that will absorb your attention away from whatever negative emotions you are feeling.

Hope things get better for you soon.

85 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 3:56:53am

Oh wow, first we have to put up with insane twittering by the ‘bagger types, now the libertarian dudebros? Makes me doubly glad I never opened an acct.

Too many people use twittering as the exact opposite of a reasoned, civil approach to communications.

But—keep calm and carry on.

86 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 4:00:14am

re: #85 Justanotherhuman

Oh wow, first we have to put up with insane twittering by the ‘bagger types, now the libertarian dudebros? Makes me doubly glad I never opened an acct.

Too many people use twittering as the exact opposite of a reasoned, civil approach to communications.

But—stay calm and carry on.

Eh, I have an account I use for work-related stuff. Fortunately, even though it’s tangentially related to politics, I don’t get a lot of dudebro seepage. Twitter’s a tool, a platform, and you can tailor it to suit your interests. I’m more disappointed when I see that shit on my FB feed. Lost respect for quite a few people I’ve known over the years when I see what kind of derp they post on their timeline.

87 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 4:01:34am

re: #85 Justanotherhuman

Too many people use twittering as the exact opposite of a reasoned, civil approach to communications.

Twitter is for posting photos of what you had for lunch or telling us who you are hanging with and where. It does not allow for any sort of nuanced, reasoned political discussion, just spreading memes and spouting talking points.

on the other hand, that is pretty much all that most news media do these days, anyways…

88 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 4:03:09am

Is Russia rethinking its strategy or is it the same old, same old with them, that is, lies, more lies, and more damned lies?

More: Lavrov says Slovakia’s decision to allow for reverse gas flows to Ukraine does not violate agreements with Gazprom and Russian government - @Reuters

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov says Russia’s relations with the EU and NATO require ‘rethinking’ due to Ukraine crisis - @Reuters
End of alert

NATO sees no sign of Russian troops returning to bases after drills near Ukraine, NATO military officer says - @Reuters
End of alert

Update: Moscow urges Ukraine’s government to withdraw troops from southeast Ukraine - Interfax

Kremlin says Russia’s President Putin has ordered troops near Ukraine to return to their home bases - @AP
End of alert

89 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 4:06:48am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Twitter is for posting photos of what you had for lunch or telling us who you are hanging with and where. It does not allow for any sort of nuanced, reasoned political discussion, just spreading memes and spouting talking points.

This is where I think my point above comes in. Twitter can be more than that. And there are people who use it for more than that, to promote worthwhile content that they’ve found elsewhere on the web, to live tweet from a conference or event, and to talk about particular industry issues (the whole # chat phenomenon). I find it very useful for those things.

But again, I stay away from the overtly political on Twitter, because you’re right, it’s not nuanced or thoughtful.

90 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 4:08:49am

Just as an example, if I were into cooking, I could follow a bunch of people who are focused on cooking (not all major media outlets) and get ideas for cooking, maybe some inspiration, maybe connect and engage with other people who enjoy cooking who wouldn’t be on a forum or major web site.

91 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 4:12:29am

re: #86 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Eh, I have an account I use for work-related stuff. Fortunately, even though it’s tangentially related to politics, I don’t get a lot of dudebro seepage. Twitter’s a tool, a platform, and you can tailor it to suit your interests. I’m more disappointed when I see that shit on my FB feed. Lost respect for quite a few people I’ve known over the years when I see what kind of derp they post on their timeline.

I don’t do FB, either. Only “social” stuff I do online is here.

I like to think I pick my friends wisely, not just have them reflect off me. I like to learn from others, and I hope I teach them a little bit, too. That’s the kind of social interaction I like.

92 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 4:20:40am

re: #91 Justanotherhuman

I don’t do FB, either. Only “social” stuff I do online is here.

I like to think I pick my friends wisely, not just have them reflect off me. I like to learn from others, and I hope I teach them a little bit, too. That’s the kind of social interaction I like.

To each his/her own. :) I’m certainly not saying everyone should have a Twitter or FB account.

I didn’t do FB for a long time, but I started using it a couple of years ago, and it’s good for keeping up with some local people coordinating events and such, and family goings-on. It’s okay, but I may start drawing back from it. I try to set certain boundaries for myself on any “social” site. I will post stuff here, for instance, that I wouldn’t post on FB or Twitter. I guess I have little compartments I put each of them into.

As for Twitter, I’ve never used it for any type of “friend” purpose. It’s just another source of information for me, and I find it helpful for my job. If I weren’t in the field I’m in, I wouldn’t use Twitter at all.

93 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 4:21:20am

China recovers space debris: State media

straitstimes.com

BEIJING (AFP) - Objects that crashed to the ground in China have been identified as space debris, state media reported, after a Russian rocket carrying a communications satellite fell back to Earth minutes after lift-off.

“Qiqihar city in the northeastern province of Heilongjiang, which borders Russia’s far east, reported that several objects appeared to have fallen from the sky on Friday, the Xinhua news agency said.

“After analysis, experts have concluded they were “parts from a carrier rocket or a satellite”, Xinhua said Sunday, citing the China National Space Administration.” More

94 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 4:36:32am

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

With your indulgence, a re-post from the dead thread.

Someone mentioned being old enough to associate the initials “OAS” with the Organization of American States.
Well, I’m so old I still associate “OAS” with the Organisation de l’armée secrète, a very nasty French terrorist gang that opposed Algerian independence in the early 1960s.
The OAS operated mostly within the French army and had few if any scruples about its methods. They tried to assassinate President Charles DeGaulle and writer Jean-Paul Sartre and did assassinate many others. At one point in 1962, the OAS was setting off more than a hundred bombs a day. They gleefully massacred Arabs and routinely killed french civilians and fellow French soldiers. One fight between OAS gunmen and loyal troops resulted in 35 fatalities.
The organization was eventually broken up and its members imprisoned. Several OAS hitmen were executed but the leaders, including General Raoul Salan, got off lightly in comparison to the atrocities they had committed. Salan was sentenced to death, but this was commuted to life imprisonment. He was released in 1968 and re-instated in the army at his former rank in 1982. He died of natural causes in 1984.
In later years, OAS veterans were a factor in many, many anti-insurgency and subversion operations in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.
The OAS still has a supposed presence in French right wing circles. It is generally “credited” with inventing the car bomb, or at least popularizing it.

Indeed, a very nasty bunch. Their attempted assassination of Charles de Gaulle forms the opening scene of The Day Of The Jackal and from what I understand, it was quite faithfully recreated for the film.

95 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 4:44:56am

re: #92 Rev_Arthur_Belling

As a general rule, I restrict my FB contacts to people I know from Real Life® and wish to remain in contact with. It is useful for organizing events and posting photos, but I tend to keep away from political discussion, and I have unfriended people for getting to carried away on the political stuff there.

96 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:22:34am

Once again, it is morning. It is beautiful and quite right now, but those in the know say it’s going to change in my part of the world.

It’s too early for the allergy report, but my sinus’s are most cranky.

you?

97 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:27:24am

William Randolph Hearst is the reason Marijuana is illegal?

98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 5:28:46am

Heat Wave expected in Germany, temps pushing into the 90’s, which sounds piddling for anyone from the southern USA, but there are very, very few residential air conditioners in use here.

Fortunately I live in an old farmhouse with thick walls and roller blinds.

99 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 5:31:15am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Heat Wave expected in Germany, temps pushing into the 90’s, which sounds piddling for anyone from the southern USA, but there are very, very few residential air conditioners in use here.

Fortunately I live in an old farmhouse with thick walls and roller blinds.

Looks like it’ll get up 84° F here in Ostrava by Sunday, and much like in Germany, yeah……there’s very little in the way of residential A/C around here.

100 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 5:31:20am

Temp here is 52, it’s expected to go up to the 70’s today.

We are going to Canada for the holiday weekend.

101 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 5:31:46am

We have only used the AC one day this year.

102 JustMark  May 19, 2014 5:35:23am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Heat Wave expected in Germany, temps pushing into the 90’s, which sounds piddling for anyone from the southern USA, but there are very, very few residential air conditioners in use here.

Fortunately I live in an old farmhouse with thick walls and roller blinds.

I went to HS in Germany and remember how temps in the 80s would lay the locals out. Our school didn’t have AC either, but we had those huge turboprop fans that would drown out all but the most determined teacher.

103 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 5:40:47am

Make your bed, brush your teeth, wash your face, comb your hair, tie your shoes, eat your veggies, keep doing trivial shit so you don’t have any time for “changing the world.”

104 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 5:42:53am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

Make your bed, brush your teeth, wash your face, comb your hair, tie your shoes, eat your veggies, keep doing trivial shit so you don’t have any time for “changing the world.”

And the Admiral better be able to bounce a quarter off those covers, seaman, or it’s galley duty for the next two weeks!

105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 5:44:48am

I attended a junior high school in Gary, Indiana, that was designed to have AC…but the school board sorta ran out of money to install it…and somehow managed to install the insulation backwards so that it kept the heat in instead of out.

So there were only two small windows in each classroom that opened and whenever temps got above 85° they had to cancel classes. We finally wound up going to school like German kids: from 7.30 am until 1:30 pm without a lunch break.

106 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:49:54am
107 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 5:53:28am

U.S. Charges China With Cyber-Spying on American Firms

“The Justice Department has filed criminal charges against several Chinese government officials, accusing them of stealing American trade secrets through cyber espionage, according to U.S. officials familiar with the case.

“It’s the first time the United States has brought hacking charges against a state actor.

(snip)

“The charges will name several individuals who are Chinese government employees, according to a U.S. official. “They used military and intelligence facilities to commit cyber espionage against U.S. companies,” the official said.” More

nbcnews.com

108 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:54:01am
109 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 5:59:10am

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

Also from ‘Crooks and Liars’;

Stewart Rhodes of the Oathkeepers admits to distributing thousands of dollars worth of ammunition to Bundy’s militia supporters on the ranch that he suspected were “mentally imbalanced.”

Rhodes at the 38:4 mark says:

The problem is there are a few, a small handful of complete nuts who are not kicked off the property …. My point is, is that there are true — like mentally imbalanced people who are allowed to stay there with weapons. And those are the ones who threatened to shoot my guys. Those are the guys who went running back to their — their truck and got an AR and came runnin back to draw on my guy until they run away. He could-a shot him but he didn’t. They’re the ones who are putting their hands on their guns like this and posturing and going into a gun-fighter claw [holds right hand over gun in side holster with fingers in claw shape

*smh*

crooksandliars.com

110 darthstar  May 19, 2014 5:59:41am
111 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 6:01:52am

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

U.S. Charges China With Cyber-Spying on American Firms

“The Justice Department has filed criminal charges against several Chinese government officials, accusing them of stealing American trade secrets through cyber espionage, according to U.S. officials familiar with the case.

“It’s the first time the United States has brought hacking charges against a state actor.

(snip)

“The charges will name several individuals who are Chinese government employees, according to a U.S. official. “They used military and intelligence facilities to commit cyber espionage against U.S. companies,” the official said.” More

nbcnews.com

BUT TEH NSA IS READING UR EMAILZ WORSER!

112 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 6:02:31am

Meanwhile, in Libya:

Armed group attacks Libyan parliament

Government insists it is in control after attack on parliament by forces loyal to a renegade general.

Libya’s government has insisted it is still in control of the worsening security situation, even as an al-Qaeda-inspired group vowed to fight troops loyal to a renegade general behind an attack on the country’s parliament.

Gunmen launched an attack on the parliament in the capital Tripoli on Sunday and demanded its suspension and an airport in the Eastern city of Benghazi came under rocket attack early on Monday.

Later on Monday the al-Qaeda-inspired Lions of Monotheism Group said it would fight forces apparently loyal to a renegade Libyan general, Khalifa Hifter, after they attacked parliament and suspended its activities.

aljazeera.com

ETA: Succeeding where Operation American Spring failed.

*headdesk*

113 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:03:02am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

Also from ‘Crooks and Liars’;

*smh*

crooksandliars.com

Yeah, My Dear Ole’ Dad wouldn’t have gone for that.

114 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:03:42am

The allergy report is in, but I won’t be sharing it.

Far to abysmal.

115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 6:06:08am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

I read some reports that the leader of the Libyan uprising had spent some time in Langley, Virginia, where he even supposedly admitted having contact with the CIA. Anything behind those stories?

116 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:07:34am

Debunking the Hemp Conspiracy Theory

Pot isn’t illegal because the paper industry is afraid of competing with hemp — it’s because of racism and the culture wars.

ah!

118 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:11:53am

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

U.S. Charges China With Cyber-Spying on American Firms

“The Justice Department has filed criminal charges against several Chinese government officials, accusing them of stealing American trade secrets through cyber espionage, according to U.S. officials familiar with the case.

“It’s the first time the United States has brought hacking charges against a state actor.

(snip)

“The charges will name several individuals who are Chinese government employees, according to a U.S. official. “They used military and intelligence facilities to commit cyber espionage against U.S. companies,” the official said.” More

nbcnews.com

Stay tuned for categorical denials from China, and complaints that the US has hurt the Chinese people’s feelings by leveling such groundless accusations.

119 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 19, 2014 6:12:01am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Killgore Trout was linking to that several times yesterday.

120 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 6:13:43am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I read some reports that the leader of the Libyan uprising had spent some time in Langley, Virginia, where he even supposedly admitted having contact with the CIA. Anything behind those stories?

Honestly, I don’t how true that is, but Gen. Hifter did live in VA for about 20 years or so before returning to Libya in 2011. And of course, Langley is home to The Shop, so I suppose anything’s possible.

121 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:15:40am

122 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:17:23am

re: #121 FemNaziBitch

I like that photo. Any idea which country they are from?

123 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:19:07am

re: #122 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I like that photo. Any idea which country they are from?

None what so ever. Just one of those fb graphics.

124 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:24:24am

I don’t know which is worse. The idea that William Randolph Hearst not racism and culture were responsible for marijuana being banned or the idea that a Capitalist has that much power being ignored.

Ah! Liberatarians

Why, then, do so many people believe in the “hemp conspiracy”? First, it’s the influence of The Emperor Wears No Clothes ; many people inspired to cannabis activism by Jack Herer’s hemp-can-save-the-world vision and passionate denunciations of pot prohibition buy into the whole “conspiracy against marijuana” package. Another is that many stoners love a good conspiracy theory; secret cabals are simpler and sexier villains than sociopolitical forces. The conspiracist worldview, a hybrid of the who-really-killed-the-Kennedys suspicions of the ’60s left and the Bilderbergs-and-Illuminati demonology of the far right, is especially common in rural areas and among pothead Ron Paul supporters. Most people don’t have the historical or political knowledge to dispute a conspiracist flood of detailed half-truths.

125 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 6:25:16am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I read some reports that the leader of the Libyan uprising had spent some time in Langley, Virginia, where he even supposedly admitted having contact with the CIA. Anything behind those stories?

It seems true but I don’t believe the rumors that he might somehow still be acting on our behalf. From what I can tell this is a breakdown of the semiprivate militia system. Since the Libyans left most of these militias in tact after the revolution it was inevitable that someone would get ambitious and make a power grab.

126 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:25:59am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

None what so ever. Just one of those fb graphics.

I just wondered if they were Nigerian kids. It’s impossible to tell from the uniforms, unfortunately.

127 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:26:43am

re: #126 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I just wondered if they were Nigerian kids. It’s impossible to tell from the uniforms, unfortunately.

Could be Jamaica or somewhere in the US for all I know.

128 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 6:27:35am

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

Could be Jamaica or somewhere in the US for all I know.

They are all waving little green and white flags.

129 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 6:27:37am

Wow, this is unexpected…
Libya orders Islamist militias to oppose rogue general

What a fucking mess.

130 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:28:44am

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

Could be Jamaica or somewhere in the US for all I know.

i doubt it’s the US. The uniforms and the kids have an African look about them. Kinda hard to explain unless you’ve been there. But Jamaica or one of the other Caribbean nations might be plausible, too.

131 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:30:00am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

They are all waving little green and white flags.

Well, aren’t you chipper and observant in the morning!

:0

132 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:30:07am

bbl

133 darthstar  May 19, 2014 6:30:31am
134 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 6:30:48am

It’s the flag of Nigeria.

135 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 6:31:04am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

They are all waving little green and white flags.

Given the crest you can see on some of them it might be Rhodesia pre-1979.

136 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 6:31:13am

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s the flag of Nigeria.

137 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:32:38am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

They are all waving little green and white flags.

Oh, good eye! I missed them. it’s the Nigerian flag.

138 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 6:33:56am

This reminds me of something.

139 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 6:35:10am

“Anti-Christian” businesses=businesses that don’t refuse to serve gay people.

140 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 6:35:59am

Kauft nur bei den Christen!

141 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:36:30am

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

“Anti-Christian” businesses=businesses that don’t refuse to serve gay people.

Pretty much, yeah. Starnes is like Fischer — got a bug up his ass (so to speak) about TEH GHEY.

142 Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2014 6:38:28am

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

This reminds me of something.

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Sure Todd, and maybe a list of Jewish, Muslim and atheist ones too just to be safe huh? Maybe put a sign or something on the store so everyone knows and can act accordingly.

143 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 6:39:11am

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

This reminds me of something.

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Reminds me that I refuse to do business with anyone flaunting the Ichthys fish symbol on their advertising or door or whatever. I’d probably like a copy of his list to use as a “buy from” reference since the odds are really bad that they’re actually anti-christian.

144 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 6:39:55am

Moorish Science Temple

Came across this on a walk the other day. An organization that I had never heard of - and my initial impression was whether Christian Science had been branching out. The reality is somewhat different from that.

en.wikipedia.org

145 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:40:37am

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

“Anti-Christian” businesses=businesses that don’t refuse to serve gay people.

I still don’t get how a business owner is supposed to know who is LGBT and who isn’t. Take a restaurant, for instance. Two men have lunch together. Or two women. Do hyper-Christian restaurant operators have hyper-gaydar to scan these people to find out if they’re straight or not?

146 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 6:42:08am

re: #144 Feline Fearless Leader

Moorish Science Temple

Came across this on a walk the other day. An organization that I had never heard of - and my initial impression was whether Christian Science had been branching out. The reality is somewhat different from that.

en.wikipedia.org

Yep, the Moorish Science Temple has been around a looooong time.

Some have said that the founder of the Nation of Islam was originally a member of the MSTA but left after a leadership dispute when the founder of the MSTA died; he went to Detroit and founded what was to become the NOI.

The [MSTA] community was further split when Wallace Fard Muhammad, known within the temple as David Ford El, also claimed (or was taken by some) to be the reincarnation of Drew Ali. When his leadership was rejected, Ford-El broke away from the Moorish Science Temple. He moved to Detroit, where he formed his own group, an organization that would become the Nation of Islam, although the Nation of Islam denies any historical connection with the Moorish Science Temple.

147 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 6:46:08am

Dick Cheney wants Hillary Clinton ‘held accountable’ for Benghazi terror attacks

148 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 6:48:44am

Yeah well, you can’t always get what you want.

149 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 6:50:36am

re: #148 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah well, you can’t always get what you want.

But if you try real hard, you just might get what you need

150 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 6:50:41am

re: #148 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah well, you can’t always get what you want.

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She forgot her kkk hashtag…

151 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 6:52:24am

re: #144 Feline Fearless Leader

Moorish Science Temple

Came across this on a walk the other day. An organization that I had never heard of - and my initial impression was whether Christian Science had been branching out. The reality is somewhat different from that.

en.wikipedia.org

And if you want to read something really interesting, read up on Wallace Fard Muhammad, the found of the Nation of Islam. He was a piece of work, to put it mildly. en.wikipedia.org

152 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 6:59:27am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

And if you want to read something really interesting, read up on Wallace Fard Muhammad, the found of the Nation of Islam. He was a piece of work, to put it mildly. en.wikipedia.org

A lot of sects seem to have founders with shady, shadowy, or just odd backgrounds. And then generate some sort of succession crisis at some point.

153 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 7:03:03am

re: #152 Feline Fearless Leader

A lot of sects seem to have founders with shady, shadowy, or just odd backgrounds. And then generate some sort of succession crisis at some point.

Sometimes these leaders have psychological problems, judging from what I’ve read about them.

154 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 7:04:05am

Libyan air force base in eastern city says joins forces of renegade general

A Libyan air force base in the eastern city of Tobruk has decided to join forces of a renegade general which have been fighting militant Islamists, according to a statement published on Monday.

“The Torbuk air force base will join … the army under the command of General Khalifa Qassim Haftar,” said the statement posted on social media websites. Staff at the air base confirmed its authenticity

155 Kid A  May 19, 2014 7:04:42am

Nice tweet from a photo colleague that I admire about my Ironman work on Saturday. Link to said work provided.

156 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 7:04:55am

re: #152 Feline Fearless Leader

A lot of sects seem to have founders with shady, shadowy, or just odd backgrounds. And then generate some sort of succession crisis at some point.

The interesting about Wallace Fard Muhammad is that no one really knows with any certainty where he was from, what his real name was, and most importantly, what the hell happened to him after he pulled a disappearing act in the 1930s. There were stories that he was originally from New Zealand, from Pakistan, from Afghanistan….you name it.

One researcher, Karl Evanzz, a noted authority on the NOI has written;

that Fard was born Wali Dodd Fard in New Zealand in 1893. His parents were Zared Fard (a New Zealander whose parents were from an area of East India that eventually became Pakistan) and Beatrice (of New Zealand’s minority British population).

Evanzz believes that Fard immigrated to the United States via Canada in 1913. He earned his living at various times as a restaurateur, gambler, bootlegger and traveling salesman. Before arriving in Detroit in 1930, under the alias of David Ford, he attained a high rank in the Moorish Science Temple, a vaguely Islam-like religion that disbanded that same year. Evanzz reported that Wallace D. Fard died in Chicago in 1971 at the age of 78.

www2.metrotimes.com

It is to me quite fascinating because it is perhaps such a uniquely American tale, and the NOI - like Scientology and the Mormons - is a uniquely American religion.

157 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 7:06:33am
158 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:07:06am

re: #153 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Sometimes these leaders have psychological problems, judging from what I’ve read about them.

Quite possible. From my limiting reading many claim to be a direct prophet or representative for God(s). This could be psychological, or simply the basis for claiming authority and establishing a grift and hold on followers.

I guess it’s a cult if it’s non-religious or stays small. A sect if it gets bigger and lasts longer. And a religion if it grows and lasts long enough to be something that the establishment has to treat with some sort of respect.

I do note that these groups appear to be supplying something to their followers. Community, identity, or something else.

159 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 7:07:19am
160 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:09:10am

Well, I just had to install another anti-virus, firewall because AVG got all crazy. Evidently, some of these are not going to be available to those of us still slogging along on XP. I didn’t even have a firewall any longer when I checked my XP “security site”.

So, I went to Zone Alarm Security, downloaded and am fixed for the time being. I suppose at some point, I’m going to have to bite the bullet and get a new computer and OS. My car is 12 yrs old, why can’t my computer be? : )

161 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:10:52am

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

Well, I just had to install another anti-virus, firewall because AVG got all crazy. Evidently, some of these are not going to be available to those of us still slogging along on XP. I didn’t even have a firewall any longer when I checked my XP “security site”.

So, I went to Zone Alarm Security, downloaded and am fixed for the time being. I suppose at some point, I’m going to have to bite the bullet and get a new computer and OS. My car is 12 yrs old, why can’t my computer be? : )

Because if MS designed car engines they’d be the size of the Chrysler Building by now.

;p

162 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 7:11:39am

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

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I’m still looking for some sort of analysis about what’s going on. I guess all the pundits with knowledge about Libyan affairs are still in bed.

163 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:11:46am

re: #161 Feline Fearless Leader

Because if MS designed car engines they’d be the size of the Chrysler Building by now.

;p

Haha, some old people wish their cars were the size of the Chrysler Bldg. : )

164 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 7:12:11am
165 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 7:13:52am

re: #161 Feline Fearless Leader

Because if MS designed car engines they’d be the size of the Chrysler Building by now.

;p

And would require updates every 9 hours.

166 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:15:02am

re: #165 Dr. Matt

And would require updates every 9 hours.

And would have been forced to issue a belated recall regarding Win ME.

;)

167 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 7:15:54am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

That was one of the more freakish exchanges I’ve had on Twitter. Being accused of taking something out of context by quoting the exact words. Wow. Are these people drunk or something?

You just don’t understand nuance, you drooling lickspittle…

///

168 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:16:42am

Around here teabaggers and their sympathizers consider bicycles and its relevant infrastructure as akin to communism. A group donated privately funded bike racks to place on whats left of our bus system a while back and the wailing it aroused surely reached the ear of the FSM. AM radio exploited this mine of stupidity for weeks. Mind you that 99% of these bigots wouldn’t be caught dead on a public bus or on a bicycle does not stop their idiotic rantings.

It’s fucking communism you stupid sheeple!!!

169 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:19:35am

Another reason to consider going vegetarian I guess. And I’m sure Detroit enjoys the additional publicity.

nbcnews.com

Then again, have to be careful with the vegetables as well due to various outbreaks traced back to them.

170 Stanley Sea  May 19, 2014 7:20:15am

Check out the google doodle today. And good luck.

171 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:20:34am

re: #168 Amory Blaine

Around here teabaggers and their sympathizers consider bicycles and its relevant infrastructure as akin to communism. A group donated privately funded bike racks to place on whats left of our bus system a while back and the wailing it aroused surely reached the ear of the FSM. AM radio exploited this mine of stupidity for weeks. Mind you that 99% of these bigots wouldn’t be caught dead on a public bus or on a bicycle does not stop their idiotic rantings.

It’s fucking communism you stupid sheeple!!!

Is that the same group of nuts who referred to a bike rack on the front of a public bus as a “socialist cowcatcher”?

172 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:21:12am

Former New York Times editor Jill Abramson in Wake Forest commencement speech: ‘I am here today to talk to everybody out there who has ever been dumped’ - @SteveCase
End of alert

newsday.com

Wakefuckingforest? Even though it calls itself “nonsectarian” the Baptists are still in full control.

173 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:21:31am

Wearing safety equipment can cause the user to be more aware of their surroundings. When you have a hard hat on, you are more likely to think “yeah I’m around some shit that could cave my skull in so I better be careful”.

174 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 7:21:50am

Might be a good idea for someone to create a list of anti-Christian businesses

If this is so important, maybe Todd should do it his own damn self. //

175 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:22:51am

re: #171 Feline Fearless Leader

Haha that’s a good one.

IDK the derp flies so fast it’s easy to miss stuff.

176 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 7:25:08am
Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney were both born in 1947. Remember how the
#GOP
worried about Mitt’s age? Me neither.

Yeah but Hillary and her head and Shutup

177 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 7:25:12am

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

Well, I just had to install another anti-virus, firewall because AVG got all crazy. Evidently, some of these are not going to be available to those of us still slogging along on XP. I didn’t even have a firewall any longer when I checked my XP “security site”.

So, I went to Zone Alarm Security, downloaded and am fixed for the time being. I suppose at some point, I’m going to have to bite the bullet and get a new computer and OS. My car is 12 yrs old, why can’t my computer be? : )

I find Xubuntu is a very good way to continue to use older computers. Depends on what you need to do, but Chrome is available to browse with and the free office replacements are good enough for home users (and most offices too but that’s another story…). If there is anything on Windows that you really need, WINE is your friend.

178 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 7:25:28am

Boko Haram: Inside the State Department debate over the ‘terrorist’ label

Hindsight is always 20/20. In retrospect, perhaps the State Department could have moved quicker with a designation, as Jackson conceded to Congress. But at the time the officials involved in the discussions believed they had come up with an acceptable compromise that would not upset the Nigerian government and would have helped improve the behavior of the Nigerian military.

Given the facts at hand, it was not an unreasonable solution — and the process by which the decision was made was fair-minded and thorough. Officials on both sides of the debate argued their case, and, as is often the case, a compromise was reached. Moreover, there is no evidence that an FTO designation any sooner would have prevented the kidnapping of the girls.

179 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:26:13am

Use Avast!. Much better free solution.

180 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:27:30am

re: #179 Amory Blaine

Use Avast!. Much better free solution.

I heard that solution is hard on the “R” key.

;P

181 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:31:33am

Thanks for the recommendations. This was recommended, so I’ll see how it performs. I only use this computer to get on the internet, nothing else, and my internet usage is limited anyway. I have plenty of other fish to fry in meat world, as you say. Plus, I’m old, and after typing docs for 40 yrs of some kind of another, I never want to use word processing or a spreadsheet ever again. I’m done with all that. : )

182 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:34:54am

You could run Ubuntu off of a disk to see if you like it.

183 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:35:15am

Another time shredder.

Anonymous social network Whisper now lets you search for secrets in your city

Major iOS app update adds categories and worldwide search options

theverge.com

184 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:36:27am

re: #182 Amory Blaine

You could run Ubuntu off of a disk to see if you like it.

I’m not crazy about Chrome, though. I like Firefox a lot and have used it for a number of years now.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 7:36:57am

I haz baby chickens:

Chicken nuggets!

186 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 7:37:10am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

they had come up with an acceptable compromise that would not upset the Nigerian government and would have helped improve the behavior of the Nigerian military.

I’m left to wonder what/ if the conversations were like with the Nigerians during this debate

187 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:37:25am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

Ubuntu has firefox installed I think.

188 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:38:11am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haz baby chickens:

Chicken nuggets!

What mix of breeds?

189 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 7:38:14am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haz baby chickens:

Chicken nuggets!

Next year at this time, you could have an excellent BBQ!!!

190 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 7:38:17am

Here is an update on the murder of Waynesboro, Va police Captain Kevin Quick. My wife went to HS with him. He went to visit his mother who lives down the street from where we used to live and then left to go to his gf’s house but never made it. I think we left at the right time.

4 Gang Members Indicted in Capt. Kevin Quick Murder; 5 Others Charged in Case

Daniel Mathis, Shantai Shelton, Mersadies Shelton and Travis Bell are charged with murdering Quick

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (WRIC) - According to federal court documents, four people have been charged with murder in the death investigation of Capt. Kevin Quick.

Daniel Mathis, Shantai Shelton, Mersadies Shelton and Travis Bell (a.k.a. Kweli Uhuru) are charged with murdering Quick. The capital murder charge could carry a very serious penalty, according to U.S. Attorney Tim Heaphy.
“That is a penalty up to the death sentence in this case that is available for that offense.”

Five others - Gert Wright III, Anthony White, Anthony Stokes, Leslie Casterlow and Devante Bell - are facing gang-related racketeering charges in connection to the case.

Those indicted are all members of a subset of the Bloods street gang known as the 99 Goon Syndicate.

The indictment spells out how members of the gang allegedly carjacked and kidnapped Quick and then drove around to various banks, attempting to withdraw cash from his accounts before murdering him and dumping his body in Goochland County.

The gang is also charged with numerous robberies, shootings and assaults taking place across Central Virginia as well as drug and weapons charges.

…To read the full indictment, click here.

Charlottesville is a small college town. Seeing the Bloods gang in the area is scary to say the least. The indictment is an interesting read with the history of the Bloods gang.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 7:39:21am

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

That’s the flag of Nigeria.

[Embedded image]

Here’s a version of the Nigerian flag that includes the crest:

192 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 7:41:13am

re: #145 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I still don’t get how a business owner is supposed to know who is LGBT and who isn’t. Take a restaurant, for instance. Two men have lunch together. Or two women. Do hyper-Christian restaurant operators have hyper-gaydar to scan these people to find out if they’re straight or not?

Perhaps a mandatory symbol sewn on their clothing would be helpful here. I’m sure Bryan Fischer has some ideas on the matter.

193 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:41:17am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

So cute!

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 7:41:27am

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

What mix of breeds?

They are two collections (Rainbow Layers and Ornamental) that we’ll have to play “guess the breed” as they grow up. Two of the chicks are definitely White Crested Black Polish and two are Black Cochins.

195 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:43:06am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haz baby chickens:

Chicken nuggets!

Do I see a Rhode Island Red? : )

196 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 7:44:07am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

I’m not crazy about Chrome, though. I like Firefox a lot and have used it for a number of years now.

That’s fine - it’s available too. I didn’t like it much so I just stopped using it as soon as there was a viable alternative. At least it’s one area where there are real alternatives.

197 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 7:44:31am

HAHAHA

198 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 7:44:37am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haz baby chickens:

Chicken nuggets!

Home hatched or mailed from the hatchery?

199 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 7:44:59am

re: #195 Justanotherhuman

Do I see a Rhode Island Red? : )

yep, good chance that big one on the left is a Rhode Island Red.

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 7:45:25am

re: #198 William Barnett-Lewis

Home hatched or mailed from the hatchery?

Mailed from the hatchery.

201 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:45:58am

Our neighbor has chickens and they get through his fence and strut around the complex sometimes. They don’t run off and my g-grandson loves ‘em.

They have a couple of ducks, too. Used to have a couple of horses, but those are gone.

202 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 7:46:08am

re: #187 Amory Blaine

Ubuntu has firefox installed I think.

It does. I did suggest Xubuntu because the XFCE UI uses far less memory and cpu resources than does the Unity UI in stock Ubuntu. That can be important for re-purposing an older machine.

203 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:49:03am

That’s a good point, a shiny UI can use alot of memory. And if you use Firefox you’re going to need all the memory you can get.

/ducks

204 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 7:49:10am

Group of OAS goobers, sitting on their fat asses, in front of WH fence, with sign.

Note to goobers: If you’re going to bother making signs, why not make them so they can be read?

205 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 7:49:55am

re: #202 William Barnett-Lewis

It does. I did suggest Xubuntu because the XFCE UI uses far less memory and cpu resources than does the Unity UI in stock Ubuntu. That can be important for re-purposing an older machine.

Zone Alarm uses 84MB. I still have about 73% free on my hard drive.

And 2GB of RAM.

206 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:51:40am

If you ran the OS off a disk, you really don’t need AV if it’s just one machine on the network.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 7:52:32am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are two collections (Rainbow Layers and Ornamental) that we’ll have to play “guess the breed” as they grow up. Two of the chicks are definitely White Crested Black Polish and two are Black Cochins.

I think the world needs more breeds of chicken…

en.wikipedia.org

;)

My brother’s flock stays pretty limited: Rhode Island Reds, Barred Plymouth Rocks, Araucunas (black), and perhaps a Dark Brahma or two.

208 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 7:58:40am

re: #152 Feline Fearless Leader

A lot of sects seem to have founders with shady, shadowy, or just odd backgrounds. And then generate some sort of succession crisis at some point.

Common theme for messianic/millenarian religions, particularly those that rose in response to disastrous contact between native and European groups. The founders of the Ghost Dance, Handsome Lake, and any number of African/Pacific Island sects were marginal persons, often reformed alcoholics, with one foot in each culture.

amazon.com

209 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 7:58:43am

I skillfully ducked my obligation to put a gate up in the backyard by distracting my wife with a nice lunch along Lake Michigan yesterday.

210 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 7:58:57am

re: #204 Skip Intro

Group of OAS goobers, sitting on their fat asses, in front of WH fence, with sign.

[Embedded image]

Note to goobers: If you’re going to bother making signs, why not make them so they can be read?

They’re like some people who make Powerpoint slides

211 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 7:59:16am

So just how dumb are birthers? Sometimes they like to post screen shots of what they’re working on.

Birther and Conspiracy Theorist too crazy even for Free Republic Butterdezillion does it like this:

Yeah, that’s right, she uses a camera.

212 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:00:59am

re: #209 Amory Blaine

I skillfully ducked my obligation to put a gate up in the backyard by distracting my wife with a nice lunch along Lake Michigan yesterday.

So now you STILL have to put the gate up and are out the $$$ for lunch!!

Good plan!
/

213 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:01:27am

re: #212 sattv4u2

I’m a genius!!!

214 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:01:37am

Love the OAS birther sign. That’s just awesomesauce, guys. Very Serious! //

215 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 8:01:48am

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announces the state will conduct a ‘rigorous’ review of the Time Warner Cable-Comcast merger - via @NBCNews
End of alert

216 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:02:11am

re: #212 sattv4u2

So now you STILL have to put the gate up and are out the $$$ for lunch!!

Good plan!
/

He’s thinking that if global warming generates a big storm and knocks the whole fence down than the gate will cease to be an important issue.

;)

217 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:03:48am

re: #215 Justanotherhuman

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announces the state will conduct a ‘rigorous’ review of the Time Warner Cable-Comcast merger - via @NBCNews
End of alert

How about the AT&T-DirecTV merger? That one gives me the willies, too.

218 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 8:03:57am

re: #173 Amory Blaine

Wearing safety equipment can cause the user to be more aware of their surroundings. When you have a hard hat on, you are more likely to think “yeah I’m around some shit that could cave my skull in so I better be careful”.

All The Gear, All The Time.

A number of people give me somewhat-odd looks or little “Man, don’t you get hot / isn’t all that stuff heavy?” quips when they see me coming in or going out in full armor for my motorcycle. I explain to them every time — I’m not concerned about my riding. I’m concerned about when that asshole runs a red light and T-bones me at 50+ MPH. And wearing all the gear serves as a constant reminder to me that there is a reason I wear all that gear, and to pay some damn attention.

219 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 8:04:17am

re: #217 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

How about the AT&T-DirecTV merger? That one gives me the willies, too.

Give him time…

220 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:05:06am

re: #217 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

How about the AT&T-DirecTV merger? That one gives me the willies, too.

It’s not a “merger”. AT&T is buying DTV for a mere $48.5 Billion

221 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:05:25am

re: #219 Justanotherhuman

Give him time…

Well, at least someone in office is worried.

222 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 8:05:30am

re: #218 GunstarGreen

All The Gear, All The Time.

A number of people give me somewhat-odd looks or little “Man, don’t you get hot / isn’t all that stuff heavy?” quips when they see me coming in or going out in full armor for my motorcycle. I explain to them every time — I’m not concerned about my riding. I’m concerned about when that asshole runs a red light and T-bones me at 50+ MPH. And wearing all the gear serves as a constant reminder to me that there is a reason I wear all that gear, and to pay some damn attention.

So, you don’t drive in a bikini like I saw a woman do the other day here? : )

I couldn’t believe my eyes or the recklessness.

223 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 8:05:43am

re: #211 Skip Intro

So just how dumb are birthers? Sometimes they like to post screen shots of what they’re working on.

Birther and Conspiracy Theorist too crazy even for Free Republic Butterdezillion does it like this:

[Embedded image]

Yeah, that’s right, she uses a camera.

The image is blurry. What’s going on?

224 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 19, 2014 8:05:45am

Euphemistic weasel-speak annoys me.

The 69 words you can’t use at GM

always, annihilate, apocalyptic, asphyxiating, bad, Band-Aid, big time, brakes like an “X” car, cataclysmic, catastrophic, Challenger, chaotic, Cobain, condemns, Corvair-like, crippling, critical, dangerous, deathtrap, debilitating, decapitating, defect, defective, detonate, disemboweling, enfeebling, evil, eviscerated, explode, failed, flawed, genocide, ghastly, grenadelike, grisly, gruesome, Hindenburg, Hobbling, Horrific, impaling, inferno, Kevorkianesque, lacerating, life-threatening, maiming, malicious, mangling, maniacal, mutilating, never, potentially-disfiguring, powder keg, problem, rolling sarcophagus (tomb or coffin), safety, safety related, serious, spontaneous combustion, startling, suffocating, suicidal, terrifying, Titanic, unstable, widow-maker, words or phrases with a biblical connotation, you’re toast

225 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:06:05am

re: #220 sattv4u2

It’s not a “merger”. AT&T is buying DTV for a mere $48.5 Billion

Does that mean more wires, or fewer?

226 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:06:58am

re: #220 sattv4u2

It’s not a “merger”. AT&T is buying DTV for a mere $48.5 Billion

Details, details …

In your professional opinion, would AT&T owning DTV change anything, like programming, service, etc.?

227 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 19, 2014 8:07:49am

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Does that mean more wires, or fewer?

It means that all the damned junk mail I get from Direct TV and AT&T will probably become more obnoxious and probably no less voluminous.

228 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:08:18am

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Does that mean more wires, or fewer?

Means AT&T wants to be on an equal footing competitively with COMCAST for TV distribution. AT&T’s “U-Verse” has been somewhat of a bust nationally. getting DTV’s customer base/ distribution vaults them up to where Comcast’s XFINITY brand is

229 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 8:08:39am

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

So, you don’t drive in a bikini like I saw a woman do the other day here? : )

I couldn’t believe my eyes or the recklessness.

Don’t forget the flip flops. First time I saw that I couldn’t believe anyone would be dumb enough to ride a crotch rocket wearing them. (shorts, sleeveless T & mirror shades completed the kit…)

230 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:08:41am

re: #227 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

It means that all the damned junk mail I get from Direct TV and AT&T will probably become more obnoxious and probably no less voluminous.

Now there’s a postage rate the USPS should jack up.
;P

231 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:09:32am

re: #226 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Details, details …

In your professional opinion, would AT&T owning DTV change anything, like programming, service, etc.?

No. But AT&T might eventually dump their UVERSE service, giving those customers a “free” dish and install

232 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 8:09:39am

Irony: Calling Obama an “epic fail” at a protest of 100 people while expecting 10 million.

Irony

233 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 8:09:58am

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

So, you don’t drive in a bikini like I saw a woman do the other day here? : )

I couldn’t believe my eyes or the recklessness.

There’s a whole lot of squidjockeys around here that ride in a t-shirt and shorts. They wear helmets, I can only presume because the law requires it and not by choice. Alright guy/gal, so your noodle won’t splatter when you come off the bike, but you’re cool with losing large tracts of your skin?

I benefit from a good reinforcer though, I suppose. When I took my safety course, one of the instructors was goofing around during our lunch break and lowsided one of the training bikes; he was wearing jeans and a long-sleeve shirt, but no actual armor other than the helmet. Walked away from that with a nice chunk torn out of his arm.

234 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 8:10:07am

re: #226 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Details, details …

In your professional opinion, would AT&T owning DTV change anything, like programming, service, etc.?

Not a pro, but I look at it like this: a company with hideous customer service that pushes overpriced content that isn’t worth watching being bought by a company with even worse customer service that likes to push bad content priced to make the first company’s trash seem cheap. Such a win for the Consumer!

235 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:10:40am

re: #232 Dr. Matt

Irony: Calling Obama an “epic fail” at a protest of 100 people while expecting 10 million.

Irony

Well, he’s failed at being a socialist tyrant, for sure.

236 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:11:06am

My dad has a lot of old biker friends around here and about 10 years ago I ran into a gentle giant he knew. He gave me a ride home on the back of his bike.

I sat behind his girlfriend!

237 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:11:15am

re: #234 William Barnett-Lewis

Not a pro, but I look at it like this: a company with hideous customer service that pushes overpriced content that isn’t worth watching being bought by a company with even worse customer service that likes to push bad content priced to make the first company’s trash seem cheap. Such a win for the Consumer!

Your attitude has been noted.
;)

238 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:11:20am

re: #223 Dr. Matt

The image is blurry. What’s going on?

I think when she dropped the film off at WalMart to be developed they screwed it up somehow.

239 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:12:06am

Obama also epic-failing at locking all the RWNJ in FEMA death panel trailer camps like promised. /

240 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 8:12:37am

re: #232 Dr. Matt

Irony: Calling Obama an “epic fail” at a protest of 100 people while expecting 10 million.

Irony

Oh come on, their estimate was only 9 million plus people off. //

241 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 8:12:47am

re: #228 sattv4u2

Means AT&T wants to be on an equal footing competitively with COMCAST for TV distribution. AT&T’s “U-Verse” has been somewhat of a bust nationally. getting DTV’s customer base/ distribution vaults them up to where Comcast’s XFINITY brand is

Shudder. U-Verse was a nightmare for the last 6 months we were in Madison after we were forced onto it. If the phone range we lost internet for 5 to 15 minutes. The speed was less than 1/2 of what was promised (and 1/3 of what we had been getting prior to U-Verse.)

We had killed our TV a couple of years before; AT&T damn near killed the internet for us too.

242 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 8:12:52am

re: #239 Bulworth

Obama also epic-failing at locking all the RWNJ in FEMA death panel trailer camps like promised. /

Worst dictator ever.

243 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 8:12:52am

re: #232 Dr. Matt

Irony: Calling Obama an “epic fail” at a protest of 100 people while expecting 10 million.

Irony

WORST. MUSLIM. HITLER. EVER.

244 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:13:54am

re: #226 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Details, details …

In your professional opinion, would AT&T owning DTV change anything, like programming, service, etc.?

Like price. They have to make back their investment, so they’ll do it the old fashioned way: raise prices.

Service too, because ATT is second only to Comcast in having the worst customer service in it’s field.

245 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:14:07am

“Irony: Calling Obama an “epic fail” at a protest of 100 people while expecting 10 million.”

Is that an upside down flag in that picture?

Is that like a distress signal or meant to convey how hopeless the U.S. is when we participate in and adhere to the regular, constitutional, democratic electoral process?

246 lawhawk  May 19, 2014 8:14:09am

re: #204 Skip Intro

Where’s Obama’s Birth Certificate . com ?

That’s the sum total of that guy’s sign? Really?

Another bunch of birthers. Super.

247 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:14:23am

Oh good grief. A couple of “friends” on FB are pulling passive-aggressive BS by posting/sharing a picture of the text of the Pledge of Allegiance along with some claim that they want to see how many will re-post it before someone gets pissed off about it. And, of course, they’re recalling how they said The Pledge in school every day without growing up badly.

I responded that I preferred the pre-1952 version personally.

248 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:15:29am

re: #245 Bulworth

“Irony: Calling Obama an “epic fail” at a protest of 100 people while expecting 10 million.”

Is that an upside down flag in that picture?

Is that like a distress signal or meant to convey how hopeless the U.S. is when we participate in and adhere to the regular, constitutional, democratic electoral process?

I thought flying the flag upside down was a real no-no unless there is for-real, serious distress.

249 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 8:15:42am

re: #239 Bulworth

Obama also epic-failing at locking all the RWNJ in FEMA death panel trailer camps like promised. /

But EPIC WIN at disbanding the protest via HAARP

Washington Times reader: 01) Yes. I agree, the Feds fired-up HAARP. However, do not let this be an end to this noble movement. Restart! Frankly, I wish the event had been staged locally, and at state capitals, in compliment to the DC event. I think what “scared-off” potential attendees was the logistics of a supposed-rally of 30 million-that’s roughly 10% of the population! Similar anti-Barry events in DC have been MUCH more successful and noteworthy. This one, thought noble, proved a terrible embarrassment, only ennobling and enabling the tyrant-in-chief and his minions. The failure here wasn’t in cause, but in planning and forethought and the failure of a supportive conservative press. Restart!

250 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:15:46am

U-Verse around here sucks too. Most complaints are for slow internet. Comcast has the best internet by far in the Nashvile area…until Google arrives. Then a true competition will be on.

252 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:16:55am
Oh good grief. A couple of “friends” on FB are pulling passive-aggressive BS by posting/sharing a picture of the text of the Pledge of Allegiance along with some claim that they want to see how many will re-post it before someone gets pissed off about it.

If you don’t repost this it’ll mean you hate Amercia. //

253 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:16:58am

re: #244 Skip Intro

Like price. They have to make back their investment, so they’ll do it the old fashioned way: raise prices.

Service too, because ATT is second only to Comcast in having the worst customer service in it’s field.

Prices go up, services go down. Sounds familiar.

254 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:17:10am

re: #223 Dr. Matt

They took an actual screen shot with a camera rather than use the “prt scr” button.

255 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 8:18:28am

re: #254 Amory Blaine

They took an actual screen shot with a camera rather than use the “prt scr” button.

aahhhhh. Ok. A little slow today. Stayed up late watching the Tigs sweep the Sox. Thnx

256 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:19:07am

The failure here wasn’t in cause, but in planning and forethought and the failure of a supportive conservative press. Restart!

RWNJ has never failed, it has only been failed. Also, too, NOBLE!!!

257 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:19:29am

re: #252 Bulworth

If you don’t repost this it’ll mean you hate Amercia. //

Of course.

Another friend posted about leaving his loaded shotgun out on a chair for a day or so, then coming back and noting that it had not shot anyone in the meantime.

I did not post that I had sort of wished it had been stolen during that period due to the stupidity and non-responsibility of the action.

258 Shiplord Kirel  May 19, 2014 8:19:52am

Know them by their fruits: America’s second most conservative city.

I paid my Lubbock friend’s electric bill again today. It was as high as mine here in Palo Pinto County and I have 4 times the floor space to light, plus a fair amount of machinery. The bill was due April 28, he got an extension till today, and they were going to cut it off tomorrow (21 days past due). He could pay it Wednesday and he told them so. Too bad, they said, no flexibility at all. He will pay me instead. What would their precious Jesus think? He would chase them into the street with a whip and throw their JBS/GOP propaganda after them.

Rent and utility costs in Lubbock are higher than in Fort Worth while average hourly wage is less than 70% as much. How does Lubbock’s dried-scum neo-Conderate, Bircher upper crust stay in business when the working and middle classes are too poor to be worth scamming?
It’s simple, they scam outsiders who benefit from cheap labor products and they scam the state and federal governments in more ways than I have time to enumerate. So much for their libertarian small government rhetoric. Without all the federal grants, federal support for the massive poor population, state and fed money at Texas Tech and the medical centers, and federal ag money, the place would dry up and blow away.

259 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:20:41am

re: #248 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I thought flying the flag upside down was a real no-no unless there is for-real, serious distress.

I bet they were in serious distress in their view from making themselves look like total idiots.
//

260 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:21:34am

re: #257 Feline Fearless Leader

Of course.

Another friend posted about leaving his loaded shotgun out on a chair for a day or so, then coming back and noting that it had not shot anyone in the meantime.

I did not post that I had sort of wished it had been stolen during that period due to the stupidity and non-responsibility of the action.

In some neighborhoods that would an open invitation for someone to grab the gun and rob his sorry ass.

261 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:22:02am

re: #244 Skip Intro

Like price. They have to make back their investment, so they’ll do it the old fashioned way: raise prices.

Service too, because ATT is second only to Comcast in having the worst customer service in it’s field.

Not necessarily. They get an immediate cash flow on day 1 from all the current Direct TV customers to start recouping. It’s not like they’re buying a startup business that has no assets or cash flow

262 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 8:22:05am

Putin’s retreat update: still not retreating
Kremlin Announces Ukraine Pullback, but NATO Doesn’t See It

The Kremlin announced Monday that President Vladimir V. Putin had ordered Russian troops conducting exercises along the Ukrainian border to return to their home bases at the conclusion of the drills, apparently sending another loud signal that Russia is not planning any military action in eastern Ukraine ahead of that country’s presidential elections on Sunday.

However, the NATO secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said the Western allies had not seen any sign of a withdrawal of Russian forces. During a news conference at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Mr. Rasmussen noted that it was the third such statement by Mr. Putin without any evidence of a pullback of troops or equipment from the Ukrainian border.

263 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 8:22:56am

re: #250 NJDhockeyfan

U-Verse around here sucks too. Most complaints are for slow internet. Comcast has the best internet by far in the Nashvile area…until Google arrives. Then a true competition will be on.

We’re getting Google sometime soon in Portland too. I’m very excited.

264 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 8:23:27am

Free Burgers? Yes
Livable wage? Hell no

265 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:23:29am

re: #262 Killgore Trout

Putin’s retreat update: still not retreating
Kremlin Announces Ukraine Pullback, but NATO Doesn’t See It

one step(pe) back, two step(pe)s forward

266 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 8:25:10am

re: #265 sattv4u2

one step(pe) back, two step(pe)s forward

Putin has fallen for our trap and we’ve got him just were we want him!
/

267 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 8:25:30am

re: #257 Feline Fearless Leader

Of course.

Another friend posted about leaving his loaded shotgun out on a chair for a day or so, then coming back and noting that it had not shot anyone in the meantime.

I did not post that I had sort of wished it had been stolen during that period due to the stupidity and non-responsibility of the action.

Another Responsible Gun Owner™.

268 BeenHereAwhile  May 19, 2014 8:26:05am

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

I completely owned a “states rights” fool earlier tonight.

He was telling me how Federal Courts should stay out of the gay marriage issue and respect the wishes of the voters on that and anything else.

I then replied to him: “Ok, so what if the residents in New York voted to ban guns?”

I still haven’t heard back.

New Jersey state law: unless you can show “justifiable need” and get a permit, you better not possess a hand gun outside your residence (even in the trunk of your car).

The permits are not easy to obtain.

269 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:26:44am
270 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:27:13am

re: #261 sattv4u2

Not necessarily. They get an immediate cash flow on day 1 from all the current Direct TV customers to start recouping. It’s not like they’re buying a startup business that has no assets or cash flow

Not from me. Since if the Comcast/TWC merger goes through, I’ll be switched from Charter to Comcast. While I’d love to drop cable/satellite altogether, the wife won’t have it so I may drop ATTDirectv and put everything with Comcast.

It will definitely be cheaper, especially with the bundling.

I admit, I hate ATT, and I used to work there (back when there really was an ATT, not the current reconstituted old RBOCs that killed the old ATT and took its name).

271 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:28:26am

re: #264 Dr. Matt

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Free Burgers? Yes
Livable wage? Hell no

Looks to be around 3000 calories. Should be able to live off of that for a couple of days.

272 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:28:28am
Free Burgers? Yes
Livable wage? Hell no

If you raise the minimum wage you make me pay for free burgers!!!

273 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:30:36am
Free Burgers? Yes
Livable wage? Hell no

Don’t tell job creators Freedom what to do except if they’re anti-Christian and hire teh gay then….put them on a list!!!1

274 sattv4u2  May 19, 2014 8:31:16am

re: #270 Skip Intro

It will definitely be cheaper, especially with the bundling.

Up until a little while ago, COMCAST wasn’t available in my neighborhood
I had AT&T for phone and internet, Direct TV for television
Due to my companies working relationship with Direct TV I got a 25% discount off that service

NOW,, I have COMCAST for all three. I only get a 15% discount, but I have faster internet, better TV service and it comes out to about $15 per month less

275 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 8:31:37am

re: #271 Skip Intro

Looks to be around 3000 calories. Should be able to live off of that for a couple of days.

We have absolutely no idea why America is fat.

It must be genetics or thyroids.

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276 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 8:32:57am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

Oh good grief. A couple of “friends” on FB are pulling passive-aggressive BS by posting/sharing a picture of the text of the Pledge of Allegiance along with some claim that they want to see how many will re-post it before someone gets pissed off about it. And, of course, they’re recalling how they said The Pledge in school every day without growing up badly.

I responded that I preferred the pre-1952 version personally.

Tell them it was written by a socialist. That ought to set them off. Send them to Bellmay’s wiki page, or to this page. If they really want to dig deep, which I doubt, they can go here.

277 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 8:33:14am
278 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:35:25am

re: #271 Skip Intro

Looks to be around 3000 calories. Should be able to live off of that for a couple of days.

530 Calories, according to the company website mcdonalds.com

279 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:35:49am

The only answer is to stop the government from alerting us about poisonous meat. The free market will sort this all out.

280 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:37:07am

re: #279 Amory Blaine

The only answer is to stop the government from alerting us about poisonous meat. The free market will sort this all out.

And … it will decrease the surplus population!
//

281 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:38:36am
282 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:38:42am

re: #278 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

530 Calories, according to the company website mcdonalds.com

I stand corrected. I’m amazed.

Ah, I see my error. It’s only 7 oz. total weight.

Damn trick photography.

283 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 8:39:04am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

But EPIC WIN at disbanding the protest via HAARP

Washington Times reader: 01) Yes. I agree, the Feds fired-up HAARP. However, do not let this be an end to this noble movement. Restart! Frankly, I wish the event had been staged locally, and at state capitals, in compliment to the DC event. I think what “scared-off” potential attendees was the logistics of a supposed-rally of 30 million-that’s roughly 10% of the population! Similar anti-Barry events in DC have been MUCH more successful and noteworthy. This one, thought noble, proved a terrible embarrassment, only ennobling and enabling the tyrant-in-chief and his minions. The failure here wasn’t in cause, but in planning and forethought and the failure of a supportive conservative press. Restart!

284 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:39:32am

re: #282 Skip Intro

The rubber in the bread is calorie free.

285 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 8:39:42am

re: #276 CuriousLurker

Tell them it was written by a socialist. That ought to set them off. Send them to Bellmay’s wiki page, or to this page. If they really want to dig deep, which I doubt, they can go here.

That’s the next step if they escalate it. I know about Bellmay since he was born in a town adjacent to where my brother teaches, and they have a sign about it being his birthplace.

286 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 8:40:11am

re: #263 Killgore Trout

We’re getting Google sometime soon in Portland too. I’m very excited.

That’s good to hear; if I’m remembering right, Portland is Comcast territory.

287 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:40:15am

re: #282 Skip Intro

I stand corrected. I’m amazed.

Yeah, but check the sodium and fat content. It’s not what you’d call a healthy meal, especially if you made a habit of eating them more than once a week, with fries and a Coke.

288 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:40:32am
289 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:40:55am

re: #279 Amory Blaine

The only answer is to stop the government from alerting us about poisonous meat. The free market will sort this all out.

A complete waste of food that the poors could be eating instead of expecting us to pay to feed them. Just more government meddling proving the Dems hate the poors.

290 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:42:35am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

That’s good to hear; if I’m remembering right, Portland is Comcast territory.

So is Nashville, Kansas City….etc. I think they are aiming for Comcast because of their fastest internet. Google is going to steal away a shitload of Comcast customers.

291 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 8:43:20am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

That’s good to hear; if I’m remembering right, Portland is Comcast territory.

Yup, I’m looking forward to giving Comcast the boot.

292 Flounder  May 19, 2014 8:43:42am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Funny thing about baby chicks under a heat lamp, they smell like chicken!!!

293 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 8:45:12am

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Yup, I’m looking forward to giving Comcast the boot.

Oh, I’m sure lots of folks in Portland are looking forward to that glorious day when they can tell Comcast to shove it. :)

294 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 8:47:39am

re: #287 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Yeah, but check the sodium and fat content. It’s not what you’d call a healthy meal, especially if you made a habit of eating them more than once a week, with fries and a Coke.

Yeah, worth noting is that the sandwich alone is 530 cals — and who knows weather McD’s is counting any other condiments in that total. Pretty much nobody gets just a sandwich at one of those places. Comes with hundreds more calories worth of fries and soda/tea. A lot of their ‘meals’ easily top 1,000.

So when you’re getting half or more of your daily caloric need from a single, ultra-quick meal? Yeah, that’s how the obesity epidemic happened.

295 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 8:49:32am

Google homepage has a working Rubik’s cube on it.

296 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:50:17am

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Yup, I’m looking forward to giving Comcast the boot.

re: #293 Dr Lizardo

Oh, I’m sure lots of folks in Portland are looking forward to that glorious day when they can tell Comcast to shove it. :)

Youtube Video

297 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:54:05am

re: #294 GunstarGreen

Especially when you consider some folks eat at fast food joints more than once a day, and may have gotten the habit from their parents, and tend not to be physically active. it’s a snowball effect.

298 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 8:54:10am

“Google homepage has a working Rubik’s cube on it.”

I was great with that Rubik’s cube. Especially after I bought the book showing how to solve it.

299 BeenHereAwhile  May 19, 2014 8:54:56am

re: #86 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Eh, I have an account I use for work-related stuff. Fortunately, even though it’s tangentially related to politics, I don’t get a lot of dudebro seepage. Twitter’s a tool, a platform, and you can tailor it to suit your interests. I’m more disappointed when I see that shit on my FB feed. Lost respect for quite a few people I’ve known over the years when I see what kind of derp they post on their timeline.

I’ve had a twitter account since 2009.

Found the best use is use twitter as information aggregator by following people who know what the hell they are writing about, on topics I’m interested in.

e.g. I turn off the TV on election night, and follow returns via twitter. The comments or RTs by the folk I follow are insightful and sometimes very humorous.

Do I follow network, cable or news organizations? No.

Currently following about 90 people, whom I don’t always agree with, but if they get too nutso, be it political left or right, I unfollow.

300 Slap  May 19, 2014 8:55:08am

re: #143 William Barnett-Lewis

Worth remembering the words of Uncle Frank:

“Whenever you see THE FISH, it’s time to grab THE HARPOON.”

(I have conjured many mental harpoons over the years….!)

301 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 8:56:42am

Amazon sells art (who knew?)

Critics respond.

Yoshitomo Nara’s “Untitled” (1993)

Price: $33,250

Reminds Me of My Own

★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Pretty sure I drew this exact painting in 2nd grade. It was in crayon though and I lost it so now I’m so excited that I can buy back for a fairly reasonable price! Too bad it isn’t prime eligible though… has me thinking twice

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 8:57:04am

re: #298 Bulworth

“Google homepage has a working Rubik’s cube on it.”

I was great with that Rubik’s cube. Especially after I bought the book showing how to solve it.

I got one side all green.
I’ll stop while I’m ahead.

303 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:04:16am

re: #301 Skip Intro

Amazon sells art (who knew?)

Critics respond.

Yoshitomo Nara’s “Untitled” (1993)

I have a bunch of my kids art and schoolwork from K-3rd grade in the basement. I didn’t realize how much of a goldmine is sitting in those boxes down there.

304 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 9:05:05am

re: #301 Skip Intro

Amazon sells art (who knew?)

Critics respond.

Yoshitomo Nara’s “Untitled” (1993)

Huh? $33,250?

*sigh*

305 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 9:07:43am

Grown-Ass Men Fighting Over A Baseball Bat, In Extreme Slow Motion

1. Is this that “Texas southern hospitality” they are always bragging about.
2. That is an assault…and remember RWNJs want to pass laws to allow firearms into stadiums. Drunken armed fanatics and a stadium…..what could go wrong?

306 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 9:08:04am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Huh? $33,250?

*sigh*

The art lies in the fact that he can fetch prices like that.

307 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:10:48am

Woops….busted!

…An internal investigation at the network found that Marie-Louise Gumuchian had published about 50 stories containing plagiarized work. Those pieces contain a total of 128 separate instances of plagiarism, according to a CNN source, and the investigation is ongoing. Gumuchian covered international news, including Africa, Europe and the Middle East.

308 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 9:12:46am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Perhaps you lean towards impressionism?

Le portrait d’une jeune femme, 1870 - $800,000.00 & FREE Shipping

Buyers have some questions.

Q: Does this come with the room pictured?
A: You can have any room you want!

Then the damn critics.

I picked this up to cover a large hole the … December 12, 2013 By JRB

I picked this up to cover a large hole the plumber made in the wall to repair a leaky pipe. Unfortunately this painting was too small to completely cover the opening and mice were sneaking through the uncovered gap. I returned it and the seller gave me a full refund despite the bite marks.

amazon.com

309 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:13:08am

2014 commencement speech:

“Sucks to be you”

310 jaunte  May 19, 2014 9:14:14am

re: #308 Skip Intro

Free shipping? I’ll take two!

311 Gus  May 19, 2014 9:14:41am

Benghazi HELMETS!

312 BeenHereAwhile  May 19, 2014 9:15:21am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

And if you want to read something really interesting, read up on Wallace Fard Muhammad, the found of the Nation of Islam. He was a piece of work, to put it mildly. en.wikipedia.org

Who was followed by Elijah (Robert Poole) Muhammad.

Who moved from Macon, GA, to Detroit.

en.wikipedia.org

314 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2014 9:18:42am

re: #312 BeenHereAwhile

Who was followed by Elijah (Robert Poole) Muhammad.

Who moved from Macon, GA, to Detroit.

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, the NOI is an interesting bunch. A Sufi friend of mine in Berlin asked me to explain their beliefs - to the best of my knowledge - and when I did (with surprising accuracy, actually) his reaction was like this:

Youtube Video

315 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:18:43am
316 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 9:19:39am

re: #309 Amory Blaine

2014 commencement speech:

“Sucks to be you”

2015 commencement speeches:

“Thanks for not protesting me”

318 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 9:23:08am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

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Late last night I was having trouble synching my Kindle, so I had the list of wifi networks open. Suddenly, “FBI Surveillance Van 3” appeared on the list—my first reaction was to LOL, then I wondered what would happen if there were any conspiracy theorists in the neighborhood. Grab the tin foil, stat!!

Anyway, it disappeared after 2-3 minutes, so I figured someone was probably just bored and playing around renaming their wifi network. Either that or…

*peeks out window to check for black helicopters (and suspicious vans)*

BTW, I googled wifi fbi surveillance van and found this Gawker article which has some really funny comments WRT wifi network names.

Okay, time to get back to work.

319 jaunte  May 19, 2014 9:23:08am
320 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:23:09am

I only see one drug.

321 Shiplord Kirel  May 19, 2014 9:24:56am

Youtube Video

Dust bowl, Bible belt
Got more churches than trees
Raise me, praise me, couldn’t save me
Couldn’t keep me on my knees
Oh, boy, rave on down loop 289
That’ll be the day you see me back
In this fool’s paradise

Temptation’s strong
(Salvation’s gone)
I’m on my way
To hell’s half acre
How will I ever
How will I ever
Get to heaven now

Throwing stones from the top of your rock
Thinking no one can see
The secrets you hide behind
Your southern hospitality

On the strip the kids get lit
So they can have a real good time
Come Sunday they can just take their pick
From the crucifix skyline

Temptation’s strong
(Salvation’s gone)
I’m on my way
To hell’s half acre
How will I ever
How will I ever
Get to heaven now
Get to heaven now

International airport
A quarter after nine
Paris Texas, Athens Georgia’s
Not what I had in mind
As I’m getting out I laugh to myself
Cause this is the only place
Where as you’re getting on the plane
You see Buddy Holly’s face

I hear they hate me now
Just like they hated you
Maybe when I’m dead and gone
I’m gonna get a statue too

Temptation’s strong
(Salvation’s gone)
I’m on my way
To hell’s half acre
How will I ever
How will I ever
Get to heaven now
Get to heaven now
How will I ever

Get to heaven now (emphasis added)

Natalie exaggerates for effect: Lubbock does have more trees than churches though not by a huge amount. It also has about the same number of bars as churches (ca. 210 of each) and several dozen licensed liquor stores.

322 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:26:53am
323 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:28:36am
324 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 9:29:44am

DUMBEST. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.

325 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:31:26am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

DUMBEST. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.

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What exactly is the argument there anyhow? You need infrastructure for markets to flourish and exist. That’s something that Smith would have strongly agreed with too.

326 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 9:31:44am

re: #300 Slap

Worth remembering the words of Uncle Frank:

“Whenever you see THE FISH, it’s time to grab THE HARPOON.”

(I have conjured many mental harpoons over the years….!)

The other day, I saw a Title Pawn shop with Da Fish on its sign.

And here I was, thinking that Jesus had some pretty specific things to say about money-changers and usurers.

327 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 9:32:39am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

DUMBEST. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.

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And let unregulated trucks wreck the highways with excessive loads?

328 Varek Raith  May 19, 2014 9:32:40am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

DUMBEST. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.

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And without the roads…
Ugh, nevermind.

329 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:32:59am

The new Stalingrad movie is high on production value and the propaganda would make Putin smile.

330 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 9:33:13am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

What exactly is the argument there anyhow? You need infrastructure for markets to flourish and exist. That’s something that Smith would have strongly agreed with too.

The ‘argument’, such as it is, boils down to soothing the butthurt of JRRB KREEAYTORZ!!1!!1!!1 that got miffed when Obama reminded them of the fact that their business skills count for exactly jack shit without the publicly-funded infrastructure that enables it.

331 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:33:49am

re: #328 Varek Raith

And without the roads…
Ugh, nevermind.

Seriously but I’ll say this about wingnuts. They’re products of modernity where they can take for granted things like infrastructure.

332 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 9:34:02am

re: #322 NJDhockeyfan

My all time favorite:

When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years. —Mark Twain

My son experienced the same epiphany in his early 20’s, heh.

333 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:34:10am
334 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:34:46am

re: #330 GunstarGreen

The ‘argument’, such as it is, boils down to soothing the butthurt of JRRB KREEAYTORZ!!1!!1!!1 that got miffed when Obama reminded them of the fact that their business skills count for exactly jack shit without the publicly-funded infrastructure that enables it.

Ah yes the creators who think that they built everything themselves and no one helped them along the way and that they pulled themselves up with only bootstraps and sheer grit.

335 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 9:35:10am

It takes more than roads, it takes the FREE MARKET

—-

FACT. Checkmate, Libtards!!!1

336 Varek Raith  May 19, 2014 9:35:22am

re: #333 NJDhockeyfan

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Fear. Pain. Death.

337 BeenHereAwhile  May 19, 2014 9:35:32am

re: #228 sattv4u2

Means AT&T wants to be on an equal footing competitively with COMCAST for TV distribution. AT&T’s “U-Verse” has been somewhat of a bust nationally. getting DTV’s customer base/ distribution vaults them up to where Comcast’s XFINITY brand is

And AT&T is pulling copper and installing fiber.

338 jaunte  May 19, 2014 9:35:47am

re: #330 GunstarGreen

The ‘argument’, such as it is, boils down to soothing the butthurt of JRRB KREEAYTORZ!!1!!1!!1 that got miffed when Obama reminded them of the fact that their business skills count for exactly jack shit without the publicly-funded infrastructure that enables it.

The economy of sucking up.

339 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:36:22am

Doh!

340 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:36:25am

Jesus built the first road.

341 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 9:37:35am

Meet the GOP candidate running in GA to replace Paul “Lies From The Pit of Hell” Broun.

Youtube Video

342 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:38:36am

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

Doh!

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I think this falls in the same category of the NRA blaming American Psycho and Natural Born Killers for Sandy Hook in the game of “Late to Pop Culture.”

343 BeenHereAwhile  May 19, 2014 9:38:47am

re: #229 William Barnett-Lewis

Don’t forget the flip flops. First time I saw that I couldn’t believe anyone would be dumb enough to ride a crotch rocket wearing them. (shorts, sleeveless T & mirror shades completed the kit…)

Very common in Miami, FL.

I quit riding street bikes when I moved to Miami.

Too many folk from other places who considered it an insult to their manhood to carry vehicle insurance, or stop at red lights and stop signs.

344 jaunte  May 19, 2014 9:39:33am
345 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 9:40:41am

re: #328 Varek Raith

And without the roads…
Ugh, nevermind.

Not to mention, during the 19th century, that “Golden Age” of unregulated Free Enterprise, the railroads were highly subsidized.

346 jaunte  May 19, 2014 9:42:29am

Maybe the thinking is that if they flatter the ‘job creators’ hard enough, some jobs might happen.

347 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:42:54am

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

Not to mention, during the 19th century, that “Golden Age” of unregulated Free Enterprise, the railroads were highly subsidized.

But let’s not let facts get away in the way of a good wingnut delusion that enterprise is possible in the modern world without infrastructure.

348 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 9:44:44am

re: #346 jaunte

Maybe the thinking is that if they flatter the ‘job creators’ hard enough, some jobs might happen.

ALL TEH JRRBS COME FROM TEH JRRB CREEYATERZ1!!!! THEY DON’T NEED UR WORTHLESS ASS FLIPPIN THERE BURGERS & STOCKIN THERE STORE SHELVES, MACHINES CAN DO THAT!!!! THEY JUST HAS PITY ON UR WORTHLESS ASS & GIVES YOU TEH MONEYS BUT U SHUD WORK FOR LESS & BE GRATEFUL U HAS A JRRB WORTHLESS MOOCHER!!!!!!

349 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 9:44:58am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

But let’s not let facts get away in the way of a good wingnut delusion that enterprise is possible in the modern world without infrastructure.

Privately owned infrastructure controlled by robber barons.

350 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:46:10am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Privately owned infrastructure controlled by robber barons.

Yeah privatize it all. God they’re as delusional if not more so than communists are about the reality of how the world around them works.

351 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 9:47:27am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Yeah privatize it all. God they’re as delusional if not more so than communists are about the reality of how the world around them works.

HURR HURR!!!! WE HAZ BUILT TAHT WITH ARE GUNZ!!!!!!

352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 9:48:52am

They live in mental world where we all live autonomously on our 40 acres of land that we have carved out of the wilderness with our bare hands and need no government.

353 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 9:49:54am

re: #311 Gus

Benghazi HELMETS!

354 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 9:51:24am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They live in mental world where we all live autonomously on our 40 acres of land that we have carved out of the wilderness with our bare hands and need no government.

Except to drive off or kill the previous tenants.

355 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:51:54am

The thing that amuses me most about them is they don’t want government involved in things like infrastructure, making sure health care is affordable to all, etc but they sure as hell love the government being the arbitrator of their morals.

356 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  May 19, 2014 9:52:01am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

DUMBEST. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.

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“Day ain’t over yet.” - Curly (Jack Palance), City Slickers

357 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:52:08am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

Except to drive off or kill the previous tenants.

Brilliant.

358 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 9:52:19am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

Except to drive off or kill the previous tenants.

A mental world, one that has very little to do with current or historical realities…

359 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 9:53:43am

Preaching tolerance to the intolerant

WATCH: Commencement Speaker Slams Students’ ‘Immature, Arrogant’ Protest

Bowen also criticized the student leaders of the protest, who hailed Birgeneau’s withdrawal as a “minor victory.” “It represents nothing of the kind,” Bowen responded. “In keeping with the views of many others in higher education, I regard this outcome as a defeat, pure and simple, for Haverford - no victory for anyone who believes, as I think most of us do, in both openness to many points of view and mutual respect.”

360 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:53:58am

re: #344 jaunte

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Must be an upgrade from this one

Escape From NY

361 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 9:54:53am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

The thing that amuses me most about them is they don’t want government involved in things like infrastructure, making sure health care is affordable to all, etc but they sure as hell love the government being the arbitrator of their morals.

As I’ve said so many times before, Big Government vs. Big Gub’mint™.

They want a huge government that is highly involved in our lives. It’s just that they want that government dictating religion, rather than safety regulations. All of this is, of course, based on their bizzaroland-style understanding of their own religion, wherein Baby Jesus thinks it’s fine to poison people with tainted meat but the utmost affront to God to let teh gayz marry each other.

362 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 9:56:11am

Yes, let free markets regulate our interstate systems. Privatize all highways, freeways, state roads, farm-to-markets, etc and let’s see how life would be so much better and freer.

364 lawhawk  May 19, 2014 9:57:07am
365 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 9:57:20am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

Except to drive off or kill the previous tenants.

WITH ARE GUNZ!!!!!!

366 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 9:58:24am

re: #361 GunstarGreen

As I’ve said so many times before, Big Government vs. Big Gub’mintTM.

They want a huge government that is highly involved in our lives. It’s just that they want that government dictating religion, rather than safety regulations. All of this is, of course, based on their bizzaroland-style understanding of their own religion, wherein Baby Jesus thinks it’s fine to poison people with tainted meat but the utmost affront to God to let teh gayz marry each other.

Yeah, I just don’t get how they live with that disconnect is all.

367 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 9:58:26am

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

Must be an upgrade from this one

Escape From NY

As a kid I loved that movie and Snake Plissken….a silence, scoped Uzi (at night). Gun pron.

368 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:00:16am

The Duke of New York is A #1!!

369 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:01:23am
370 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:01:37am

re: #359 Killgore Trout

Preaching tolerance to the intolerant

WATCH: Commencement Speaker Slams Students’ ‘Immature, Arrogant’ Protest

I don’t know how to best phrase this but I am sympathetic to a recent graduate who puts a lot of time and cash into their university expressing their discontent with their university’s choice of commencement speaker.

371 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 10:01:45am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Yes, let free markets regulate our interstate systems. Privatize all highways, freeways, state roads, farm-to-markets, etc and let’s see how life would be so much better and freer.

Toll roads and bridges for EVERYBODY!

372 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:01:50am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Yes, let free markets regulate our interstate systems. Privatize all highways, freeways, state roads, farm-to-markets, etc and let’s see how life would be so much better and freer.

HURR HURR NO ROAD REPAIRS FOR TEH DEMOCRATZ!!!!!1!!!!

No. Seriously it is an actual thing.

373 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 10:02:08am
Republicans say they need to find out why security was insufficient (Congress underfunded), what the president did the night of the attack (read My Pet Goat), why the U.S. military didn’t intervene (ask and answered 84 times already), why initial explanations focused on a protest over a YouTube video (these people can’t read apparently) and whether the administration deliberately sought to hide evidence about its conduct (have you stopped beating your spouse?).

news.yahoo.com

Note: I’ve added a few completely non-bi-partisan responses in parentheses

374 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2014 10:02:12am

re: #368 Amory Blaine

The Duke of New York is A #1!!

The Duke

375 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 10:04:31am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I just don’t get how they live with that disconnect is all.

“Fuck you, I got mine” is a pretty easy philosophy to live by, and neatly handles many such disconnects.

376 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:05:50am

re: #375 GunstarGreen

“Fuck you, I got mine” is a pretty easy philosophy to live by, and neatly handles many such disconnects.

Yep quite true. I just love the disconnect is all. To them, government can’t be trusted to make health care more affordable or schools more higher quality but it can be used to enforce their morals or to deport all the illegal aliens.

377 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 10:06:10am
378 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:06:10am

28,000 new jobs last year, a 3-year state low

MADISON — Gov. Scott Walker’s administration reported Thursday that just over 28,000 private-sector jobs were created in Wisconsin last year, the lowest annual amount since Walker took office.

Walker promised during the 2010 election, and again during the recall less than two years later, that by the end of 2014 the state would add 250,000 private-sector jobs. But after three years, based on the employment count Walker chose and that economists say is the most accurate, the state is only 37 percent of the way toward meeting the promise.

379 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:06:37am

re: #378 Amory Blaine

28,000 new jobs last year, a 3-year state low

But he’s anti-union so you know he’s good.//

380 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 10:10:50am
“Fuck you, I got mine” is a pretty easy philosophy to live by, and neatly handles many such disconnects.

And it’s totally what Jesus Christ and all the prophets taught in the Bible. //

381 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:11:46am

DUMBER. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.
There are human beings, not robots, behind the counter, dipshit.

382 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:12:07am

re: #380 Bulworth

And it’s totally what Jesus Christ and all the prophets taught in the Bible. //

And Jesus sayeth to the poor man, get lost moocher, I won’t fund you and your children because I worked hard and you didn’t.

383 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:13:56am

re: #364 lawhawk

Great pics Lawhawk. I hope to be privileged enough to go back to NYC and see the finished memorial.

384 A Mom Anon  May 19, 2014 10:14:30am

re: #332 CuriousLurker

Haha. My daughter just turned 30 and is about to have baby number 4. From age 8 or 9 til she was about 25 I was THE biggest idiot in the world EVAR. Now she calls me almost every day to ask my advice. It’s amazing how brilliant I am now, lol.

385 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:14:46am

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve seen ipads in fancier joints being used for ordering.

386 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:15:28am

Did the artist making this cartoon use Mona Holland’s Twitter avi as inspiration?

387 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 10:16:23am

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

Not to mention, during the 19th century, that “Golden Age” of unregulated Free Enterprise, the railroads were highly subsidized.

And the northern states that did so had a transportation network in place when the 1861 Great Unpleasantness started.

388 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:16:40am

re: #385 Amory Blaine

Not that I cared for it I think it’s just for the fad. Same with the steak joint where you cook your own steak. Why am I even going out to eat if I’m doing all the work?

389 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:17:20am
390 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 10:17:31am

re: #381 Pie-onist Overlord

DUMBER. MEME. OF. THE. DAY.
There are human beings, not robots, behind the counter, dipshit.

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As with so many parts of wingnut ideology, it requires one to turn off their brain and not think about… well, anything really.

Okay, so you order from the machine instead of relaying it to a person who puts it into a machine. Then you pick up your order from the pickup line. This is… pretty much exactly the way the drive-through works right now, except that you’re punching buttons instead of relaying your order to somebody else who punches the buttons. They still have to have cooks to make the food, they still have to have people to bag the food up into orders and deliver them to customers. At the absolute most, this would only replace the order-taking personnel.

And it won’t do that completely, ever, for the exact same reason that U-Scan has been present in every major grocery store for over a decade now and yet it still hasn’t replaced all of the checkout belts. Because machines break down, or customers fail to understand how to use them, or just plain prefer dealing with other humans rather than machines in the first place.

391 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:18:56am

re: #387 Feline Fearless Leader

And the northern states that did so had a transportation network in place when the 1861 Great Unpleasantness started.

Many years ago, I read that one of the factors that contributed to the South’s defeat was the fact that they used different railroad gauges and their rolling stock was not standardized. STATES RIGHTS & PRIVATE ENTERPRISE!!!!!

392 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:19:25am

re: #390 GunstarGreen

As with so many parts of wingnut ideology, it requires one to turn off their brain and not think about… well, anything really.

Okay, so you order from the machine instead of relaying it to a person who puts it into a machine. Then you pick up your order from the pickup line. This is… pretty much exactly the way the drive-through works right now, except that you’re punching buttons instead of relaying your order to somebody else who punches the buttons. They still have to have cooks to make the food, they still have to have people to bag the food up into orders and deliver them to customers. At the absolute most, this would only replace the order-taking personnel.

And it won’t do that completely, ever, for the exact same reason that U-Scan has been present in every major grocery store for over a decade now and yet it still hasn’t replaced all of the checkout belts. Because machines break down, or customers fail to understand how to use them, or just plain prefer dealing with other humans rather than machines in the first place.

Precisely. And honestly having this technology from McD’s pov is a good thing for profits. Another wingnut economics fail.

393 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:19:48am

The only teller-staffed cash register at Home Depot is at the contractor desk. Otherwise it’s DIY. Pretty soon you’ll have to cook and assemble your own burger at Mickey D’s.

394 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:20:45am

re: #393 Amory Blaine

The only teller-staffed cash register at Home Depot is at the contractor desk. Otherwise it’s DIY. Pretty soon you’ll have to cook and assemble your own burger at Mickey D’s.

The one here still has cashiers on both sides.

395 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:20:50am

re: #391 Pie-onist Overlord

Many years ago, I read that one of the factors that contributed to the South’s defeat was the fact that they used different railroad gauges and their rolling stock was not standardized. STATES RIGHTS & PRIVATE ENTERPRISE!!!!!

Never heard that but the CSA if you ask me doomed itself from the start. When you’re a society founded on the principle that you can just split whenever you want to because you don’t like certain laws, bad things are going to happen to you.

396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 10:22:30am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Never heard that but the CSA if you ask me doomed itself from the start. When you’re a society founded on the principle that you can just split whenever you want to because you don’t like certain laws, bad things are going to happen to you.

Had the war turned out differently, I wonder how long the CSA would have held together before it split into separate states.

397 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:22:51am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Never heard that but the CSA if you ask me doomed itself from the start. When you’re a society founded on the principle that you can just split whenever you want to because you don’t like certain laws, bad things are going to happen to you.

The CSA was founded on the principle of owning other human beings as property. The secession thing was just a means to an end.

398 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 10:23:07am
And it won’t do that completely, ever, for the exact same reason that U-Scan has been present in every major grocery store for over a decade now and yet it still hasn’t replaced all of the checkout belts. Because machines break down, or customers fail to understand how to use them, or just plain prefer dealing with other humans rather than machines in the first place.

And because how to scan lettuce and oranges and stuff like that. If I have anything that’s not in a box or bag with one of those scan things on it then I don’t go through the DIY line.

399 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:24:33am

re: #397 Pie-onist Overlord

The CSA was founded on the principle of owning other human beings as property. The secession thing was just a means to an end.

I know. I’m just saying that they doomed themselves from the start making secession the basis of their whole existence. A little known part of the war is that the CSA tried to or failed crushed secessionist movements within the CSA. The latter’s result is why the state of West Virginia exists today.

400 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 10:24:55am

re: #391 Pie-onist Overlord

Many years ago, I read that one of the factors that contributed to the South’s defeat was the fact that they used different railroad gauges and their rolling stock was not standardized. STATES RIGHTS & PRIVATE ENTERPRISE!!!!!

That. And also that most of their railroads ran from market center (that bought cotton) to port (that shipped cotton). Lots of local lines for that with their different gauges and rolling stock. The North by then had interest in running products from the East Coast to Chicago and beyond, and thus larger companies, greater interest in common gauge*, and also more interest in varied goods and passengers.

* - Was not a universal gauge, but the main lines were fairly standardized in order to simplify transfer of loaded freight cars. There were also narrow gauge railroads still running in a number of places, and also railroads who laid a third rail to allow the running of either narrow or standard gauge trains. (Note: I picked up most of this from a book specifically on the development and evolution of railroads in western New York state.)

401 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:25:57am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Had the war turned out differently, I wonder how long the CSA would have held together before it split into separate states.

Yep, I think that’s something to wonder about and I think that’s something that the CSA leadership feared since as it was pointed out to me here a couple weeks back that the CSA constitution explicitly forbade secession.

402 Kragar  May 19, 2014 10:26:34am

re: #398 Bulworth

And because how to scan lettuce and oranges and stuff like that. If I have anything that’s not in a box or bag with one of those scan things on it then I don’t go through the DIY line.

I ended up blocking the whole bunch of them in that thread. Dumbass libertarian scum.

403 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 10:27:18am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Yep, I think that’s something to wonder about and I think that’s something that the CSA leadership feared since as it was pointed out to me here a couple weeks back that the CSA constitution explicitly forbade secession.

no fooling. talk about the ultimate irony…

404 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:28:17am
405 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 10:28:38am

So my feline overlord crisis last week was one of my male cats not eating/lethargic, which precipitated a three day/night hospital stay and tests all to reveal what seems to be pancreatitus. Brought him home yesterday with lots of medicine to dispense. But he seems much better.

406 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 10:28:58am

The dudebro attitude about helmets has got to be one of the dudebroyest positions there is:

Fewer people ride when helmets are mandated, and when fewer people ride, it’s more dangerous for ME to ride because of the safety-in-numbers factor.

Never mind that the dudebro’s safety comes at the cost of endangering newbie cyclists by encouraging them to ride helmetless.

It’s actually the same argument used to promote bike lanes.

Teh number one reason non-cyclists give for not riding is that they don’t feel safe. Let’s make them feel safe by painting stripes on the road and telling them they are safer there! Then I’ll be safer because there will be lots of newbs out there and drivers will be watching more!

Again, the dudebro’s safety comes at the expense of the newbs being used as the traffic equivalent of cannon fodder.

I have even seen the argument, in mainstream Bicycling Magazine, no less, that colorful lycra outfits are to be abandoned because they discourage newbs from taking up the sport.

BTW, the number one difference between cyclists who have accidents and those who don’t is experience.

407 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:30:07am
408 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:30:25am
409 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 10:31:15am

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

Don’t wanna harsh your buzz, but that looks more like a garden pond than a flood area. cute pic, though

410 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 10:31:54am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Yep, I think that’s something to wonder about and I think that’s something that the CSA leadership feared since as it was pointed out to me here a couple weeks back that the CSA constitution explicitly forbade secession.

Is there?

en.wikipedia.org

411 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:32:00am

re: #406 wrenchwench

The dudebro attitude about helmets has got to be one of the dudebroyest positions there is:

Fewer people ride when helmets are mandated, and when fewer people ride, it’s more dangerous for ME to ride because of the safety-in-numbers factor.

Never mind that the dudebro’s safety comes at the cost of endangering newbie cyclists by encouraging them to ride helmetless.

It’s actually the same argument used to promote bike lanes.

Teh number one reason non-cyclists give for not riding is that they don’t feel safe. Let’s make them feel safe by painting stripes on the road and telling them they are safer there! Then I’ll be safer because there will be lots of newbs out there and drivers will be watching more!

Again, the dudebro’s safety comes at the expense of the newbs being used as the traffic equivalent of cannon fodder.

I have even seen the argument, in mainstream Bicycling Magazine, no less, that colorful lycra outfits are to be abandoned because they discourage newbs from taking up the sport.

BTW, the number one difference between cyclists who have accidents and those who don’t is experience.

The attitude about helmets reminds me of how they approach nutrition honestly.

412 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 10:34:33am

re: #405 Bulworth

So my feline overlord crisis last week was one of my male cats not eating/lethargic, which precipitated a three day/night hospital stay and tests all to reveal what seems to be pancreatitus. Brought him home yesterday with lots of medicine to dispense. But he seems much better.

Ouch. It’s recoverable though since my Siamese who lived to 21 had a bout of that due to a poor reaction to a hyperthyroid medicine when he was 15 or so. He spent 3 days at the vet and was on additional medication for an extra week or so.

Hope your F.O. rides things out without any additional complications.

413 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 10:34:37am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

I don’t know how to best phrase this but I am sympathetic to a recent graduate who puts a lot of time and cash into their university expressing their discontent with their university’s choice of commencement speaker.

I can see that point but they are paying for an education, they aren’t paying to be told what they want to hear. I can see cases where boycotting a speaker would be warranted but it’s become way too common and it’s creating (or reflecting) a culture of intolerance.

414 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 10:35:19am

re: #406 wrenchwench

The dudebro attitude about helmets has got to be one of the dudebroyest positions there is:

Fewer people ride when helmets are mandated, and when fewer people ride, it’s more dangerous for ME to ride because of the safety-in-numbers factor.

Never mind that the dudebro’s safety comes at the cost of endangering newbie cyclists by encouraging them to ride helmetless.

It’s actually the same argument used to promote bike lanes.

Teh number one reason non-cyclists give for not riding is that they don’t feel safe. Let’s make them feel safe by painting stripes on the road and telling them they are safer there! Then I’ll be safer because there will be lots of newbs out there and drivers will be watching more!

Again, the dudebro’s safety comes at the expense of the newbs being used as the traffic equivalent of cannon fodder.

I have even seen the argument, in mainstream Bicycling Magazine, no less, that colorful lycra outfits are to be abandoned because they discourage newbs from taking up the sport.

BTW, the number one difference between cyclists who have accidents and those who don’t is experience.

The kind of person that rides a two-wheeled vehicle, which is inherently more prone to dislodging and injuring the operator than a four-wheeled vehicle, without a helmet is the kind of person that bears a flagrant disregard for basic safety and common sense, and should not be riding in the first place.

415 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2014 10:35:27am
416 Ian G.  May 19, 2014 10:35:29am

Good afternoon, lizards. Looks like that extended weekend I took in Portland, OR made me miss the glorious American Spring revolution, although by the looks of things, I would have missed it if I were standing at the base of the freakin’ Washington Monument.

One thing that never gets old about the Pacific Northwest every time I visit it is the view of the mountains on a clear day. I mean, the view of the Rocky Mountains from Denver is spectacular, but with Portland or Seattle, you have the mountains, but you also have The Mountain: Rainier, Hood, Adams, etc., rising majestically above the rest, covered in glaciers. The snow line at Mt. Hood was at about 4,000’, and up at the Timberline Lodge, there were snowdrifts 3-4 times as tall as me, in mid-May. No wonder Jack Nicholson went nuts there.

417 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:36:16am
418 GunstarGreen  May 19, 2014 10:36:50am

re: #413 Killgore Trout

I can see that point but they are paying for an education, they aren’t paying to be told what they want to hear. I can see cases where boycotting a speaker would be warranted but it’s become way too common and it’s creating (or reflecting) a culture of intolerance.

There’s nothing wrong with intolerance where bad crazy is concerned.

Tolerating lunacy for the sake of tolerance is how American politics have gotten as toxic and broken as they are now.

419 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2014 10:38:19am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

Source tells me that Wolfeboro Police Commissioner Robert Copeland, who called President Obama the n-word, has resigned

But he had CRITERIA!!!

/

420 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:39:56am

re: #413 Killgore Trout

I can see that point but they are paying for an education, they aren’t paying to be told what they want to hear. I can see cases where boycotting a speaker would be warranted but it’s become way too common and it’s creating (or reflecting) a culture of intolerance.

See, that’s the point KT. It’s subjective. Someone who may be warranted a boycott may be different in my eyes, your eyes, or these students’ eyes. Some in the Notre Dame student body wanted to boycott Obama because of his pro-choice views. I understand what you mean about a culture of intolerance but at the same time, I really do feel that if you put in tons of time and money to one’s college education, you definitely do have the right to express your displeasure if you feel your college has chosen someone who you feel doesn’t represent your values. I’m phrasing this poorly I concede but I just don’t know what the solution if any to this. There’s always going to be discontent. There was in the early 70’s when my father was of college age and there is now, and I know there will be when I have children of college age.

421 blueraven  May 19, 2014 10:40:20am

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

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That looks like a backyard pond to me. You can see the plants are in a pot.

422 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:43:29am

re: #418 GunstarGreen

There’s nothing wrong with intolerance where bad crazy is concerned.

Tolerating lunacy for the sake of tolerance is how American politics have gotten as toxic and broken as they are now.

This is certainly true too. My broader point is obviously these students feel that the university’s choice of speaker is someone who they feel doesn’t reflect the values that they put forth in earning their degree. Put yourselves in their shoes. You put a lot of hard work and money in to getting your degree and the university chooses someone whose views that you and many among your peers find abhorrent to speak at your graduation ceremony. I’m sympathetic to protesting that.

423 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 10:46:01am
Source tells me that Wolfeboro Police Commissioner Robert Copeland, who called President Obama the n-word, has resigned

POlitcal Correctness police amock!!! What about FReedom speach???! Obama thugs fire all there enemies in America!!11

424 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:46:09am

Honestly though, I don’t think this generation of American college students is any more tolerant or intolerant of differing points of views. We’re reading more about student discontent with choices of speakers because well we’re a more connected society than we were in the past. Word gets around quicker. That’s 2014 America. It’s for that same reason I don’t believe that people are any more (I actually believe less) hateful than they were in the past but hate just has a larger platform than it did when my parents were my age.

425 Varek Raith  May 19, 2014 10:47:11am

Yeah, I’m going to be ‘intolerant’ of someone who lied us in to war.

426 Bulworth  May 19, 2014 10:50:14am
Hope your F.O. rides things out without any additional complications.

Thanks. He’s my real sweet fella. Sleeps on my pillow. Sits on the arm of my recliner when I is watching the teevee. I sure missed him those few days. He also apparently made lots of human friends at the hospital who just loved him.

427 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 10:55:43am

Fox and Morons misspell Selfie while doing a segment on selfies.

428 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 10:56:10am

re: #427 Skip Intro

Fox and Morons misspell Selfie while doing a segment on selfies.

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Whoops.

429 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:56:23am

Yooper ‘eh?

430 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:58:36am

re: #429 Amory Blaine

Yooper ‘eh?

Almost Canadian.

431 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 10:58:47am

So, it appears AVG is not taking kindly to my dumping them. They will not be ignored. Or removed.

Internet cut off, router screwed up, had to cut the power to everything and start over.

I hate when that happens.

Everything is well for the moment…

432 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 10:59:47am

Jesus called Bryan and said “I’M COMING TO KICK YOUR ASS!”

433 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 11:00:12am

re: #386 Pie-onist Overlord

Did the artist making this cartoon use Mona Holland’s Twitter avi as inspiration?

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I was thinking it might be Peggy Noonan.

434 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 11:00:14am

And getting a message from Chrome saying it won’t support this computer any longer with updates.

Are they in cahoots with MS?

At least I got Firefox back. : )

435 Kragar  May 19, 2014 11:00:24am
436 lawhawk  May 19, 2014 11:00:30am

re: #432 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus called Bryan and said “I’M COMING TO KICK YOUR ASS!”

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He keeps mishearing.

It’s Hey! Zeus!

437 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 11:02:16am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the job offer from Heritage came through.

438 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 11:02:35am

re: #436 lawhawk

He keeps mishearing.

It’s Hey! Zeus!

It’s Jesus, he’s an undocumented Mexican immigrant.

439 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 11:02:56am

re: #438 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s Jesus, he’s an undocumented Mexican immigrant.

Bryan’s lawn guy?

440 BeenHereAwhile  May 19, 2014 11:03:37am

re: #431 Justanotherhuman

So, it appears AVG is not taking kindly to my dumping them. They will not be ignored. Or removed.

Internet cut off, router screwed up, had to cut the power to everything and start over.

I hate when that happens.

Everything is well for the moment…

How To Uninstall McAfee Antivirus

Youtube Video

441 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 11:05:43am

OH TEH BUTTHURT

442 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 11:06:24am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

Oh good grief. A couple of “friends” on FB are pulling passive-aggressive BS by posting/sharing a picture of the text of the Pledge of Allegiance along with some claim that they want to see how many will re-post it before someone gets pissed off about it. And, of course, they’re recalling how they said The Pledge in school every day without growing up badly.

I responded that I preferred the pre-1952 version personally.

Why not make a pic with the original text and see if they share it?

443 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2014 11:07:11am

re: #441 Pie-onist Overlord

OH TEH BUTTHURT

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Why shouldn’t American Spring be mocked? You’re an asswipe if you don’t mock a bunch of people who thought they’d have 10 million people removing Obama last weekend. I jest but they’re worthy of the mocking they’ve gotten.

444 Ian G.  May 19, 2014 11:08:50am

re: #432 Pie-onist Overlord

I await Bryan’s answer with bated breath.

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445 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 11:09:12am

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

Doh!

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Those Egyptian Gellers…

446 Ian G.  May 19, 2014 11:10:03am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Why shouldn’t American Spring be mocked? You’re an asswipe if you don’t mock a bunch of people who thought they’d have 10 million people removing Obama last weekend. I jest but they’re worthy of the mocking they’ve gotten.

Right. I’m guessing this guy would have had no problem mocking International ANSWER’s rallies during the Bush administration, and I really don’t see much of a difference between then and the American Spring clowns.

447 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2014 11:11:18am

Report: Twitter is considering a deal to buy SoundCloud - @Recode
Read more on recode.net

448 Ian G.  May 19, 2014 11:11:42am

re: #442 Sergey Romanov

Why not make a pic with the original text and see if they share it?

Or mention that the author of the pledge was a socialist.

And then mention that the author of “America the Beautiful” was a socialist lesbian.

449 Jordy LuhPhorj  May 19, 2014 11:12:50am

re: #429 Amory Blaine

Ooooo yah! Up der in da Yoo Pee ya know we’re just darn tootin’ soh happy about dis recognition! Did ya see da turdy pointer…er no?

450 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 11:24:52am

re: #446 Ian G.

Right. I’m guessing this guy would have had no problem mocking International ANSWER’s rallies during the Bush administration, and I really don’t see much of a difference between then and the American Spring clowns.

Well, ANSWER, ISM and CODE PINK got more turnout, and they had better Giant Puppets.

451 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 11:26:14am

I had to search to find the commencement speaker for my college graduation (which I did not attend). I was not pleased with my alma mater to be at that point over a number of issues.

en.wikipedia.org

Philadelphia-area House Rep (at the time). Went on to be House Majority Whip and later head of the United Negro College Fund.

Given that I’d attended my sister’s graduation at a smaller school years before and seen Coretta Scott King speak I must have thought this guy was pretty small potatoes in comparison.

452 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2014 11:27:06am

re: #436 lawhawk

He keeps mishearing.

It’s Hey! Zeus!

How soon until a bad sitcom with that title comes out?
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453 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 11:27:57am

Even the almighty is pulling for me. As I began digging the hole for the gate post the skies opened up!!

454 bluebonnetbunny  May 19, 2014 11:42:05am

re: #176 Bulworth

Mitt was in a coma for three days after a car accident in France. Accounts of the circumstances surrounding the accident have changed over the years and don’t reflect well on Mitt. dailykos.com

455 Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2014 1:26:00pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toll roads and bridges for EVERYBODY!

Yep. $20 a day just for the privilege of driving on their roads back and forth for work. Of course the big businesses know they won’t have to pay near that much for their trucks because they will have made backroom deals to keep their costs down, and the toll road owner will just push the costs of that deal onto the scum going back and forth to work every day. Win Win for the big money.


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