Slap Fight of the Day: Wikileaks vs Pernicious G

Assange: “Firstlook is acting like a bunch of racists”
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Today on Twitter this happened: Julian Assange, who most people believe is the one behind the @Wikileaks account, threw a huge tantrum because Glenn Greenwald redacted the name of a country from his latest disingenuous article. Greenwald says he was convinced publishing the country’s name would lead to deaths. Assange doesn’t give a shit about that, of course.

There are some inadvertently hilarious moments here; Wikileaks’s Jacob Appelbaum says redacting the country “makes Wikileaks look extreme.” I almost fell out on that one. And then there’s the tweet in which Assange basically calls everyone in Greenwald’s crew “a bunch of racists.” And it all ends with Assange issuing a super-villain threat to release the country’s name “in 72 hours.”

Scroll through the collection below to see what it looks like when extreme libertarians have a purity war.

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593 comments

1 freetoken  May 19, 2014 5:13:23pm

Lover’s quarrels are always the meanest.

2 Gus  May 19, 2014 5:15:04pm
3 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 5:15:29pm

Hmm. I originally added Greenwald’s tweets to this collection, too, but it looks like they don’t show up because he blocked me. Hmm.

4 EPR-radar  May 19, 2014 5:16:02pm

Here to the happy thought of both sides in this fight losing.

5 b.d.  May 19, 2014 5:17:33pm

All that is missing is Roseanne Barr

6 jaunte  May 19, 2014 5:18:37pm

“the mass interception of an entire nation”

The aliens are listening, too.

7 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 5:18:58pm

Libertarian anarchy at work. LOL true to form.

8 b.d.  May 19, 2014 5:21:08pm

Eagerly awaiting the Great Dudebro schism of May 2014

9 jaunte  May 19, 2014 5:21:34pm

Bull Goose Dudebro. There Can Be Only One.

10 lawhawk  May 19, 2014 5:24:23pm

You’re the extremist.

No, you’re the extremist.

You’re caving to The Man.

Don’t you know who I am?

If you don’t do what we say, we’re going to hold our breath.

Turn Blue (no, not the good one, the hold your breath one).

Meh. These people are a collective headache who think that they know more and better than the rest of us, and they’re wrong. About so many things.

11 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 5:26:56pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Hmm. I originally added Greenwald’s tweets to this collection, too, but it looks like they don’t show up because he blocked me. Hmm.

U needz sokpuppett.

12 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:27:30pm

I must be a prophet or something.

13 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 5:27:50pm

OK, I redid the collection with our LGF account. Greenwald’s tweets are now included.

14 freetoken  May 19, 2014 5:28:12pm

re: #12 Sergey Romanov

I must be a prophet or something.

But where’s your profit?

15 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:29:06pm

re: #14 freetoken

But where’s your profit?

I have a non-profit prophet org.

16 Stanley Sea  May 19, 2014 5:31:41pm

re: #10 lawhawk

Hey Lawhawk, thanks so much for posting that story from the reporter @ Buzzfeed about his sister and the visit to the 9/11 memorial.

Only break I could take today was to read that. It was especially gripping.

17 Gus  May 19, 2014 5:32:44pm
18 b.d.  May 19, 2014 5:33:41pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

OK, I redid the collection with our LGF account. Greenwald’s tweets are now included.

Better take a screenshot before that gets blocked too.

//

19 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 5:34:48pm

The mystery country is Ireland. The NSA is after the music, and the Lucky Charms.

Youtube Video

20 lawhawk  May 19, 2014 5:35:41pm

re: #17 Gus

Amazing how Wikileaks ignores what Russia does in Wikileaks’ own backyard in Europe. Blind spot wide enough to drive Putin’s FSB through without the slightest look.

21 b.d.  May 19, 2014 5:36:00pm

So why is Wikileaks waiting 72 hours?

22 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 5:36:14pm

For four countries, ‘they’ decided there was NO risk to innocents. For the fifth, ‘they’ decided ‘we were *very convinced this 1 would —> deaths’. Presumably the arrow indicates causation.

How sure were ‘they’ about the other four?

What will happen in 72 hours when the fifth one is revealed? Who will take the blame?

23 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:36:20pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

OK, now, I tell you, someone must die.

Youtube Video

24 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:37:15pm

re: #21 b.d.

So why is Wikileaks waiting 72 hours?

Apparently to let that little firm that is in danger to get out. Or to have this excuse if something happens to them.

25 freetoken  May 19, 2014 5:37:31pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

What will happen in 72 hours when the fifth one is revealed? Who will take the blame?

Maybe there should be a Munk Debate to explore that answer?

26 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 5:38:50pm
27 Gus  May 19, 2014 5:39:01pm
28 jaunte  May 19, 2014 5:39:10pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

For four countries, ‘they’ decided there was NO risk to innocents

Based on an in-depth reading of PowerPoint slides.

29 Internet Tough Guy  May 19, 2014 5:39:24pm

This amuses me. Glenn found his limit and the purists are calling him out.

How does it feel, tool of the Pentagon?

30 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 5:39:29pm

re: #25 freetoken

Maybe there should be a Munk Debate to explore that answer?

Maybe they can just dangle a noose around the Disembodied Head of Snowden and he can takes all their sins upon himself and wash them clean.

31 b.d.  May 19, 2014 5:39:57pm

It sure will be fun to see the internet reaction to Glenn’s coverup if that 5th country turns out to be Israel

32 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 5:40:00pm

re: #23 Sergey Romanov

OK, now, I tell you, someone must die.

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Video

No Gonny like a Mahagonny.

33 DubsCorleone  May 19, 2014 5:40:38pm

Both of their supporters will compete to win Platinum medals in acrobatics trying to justify their actions

I’m tired of both of them…

34 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:41:01pm

REPOST FROM DOWN STAIRS:

I love writers who can write like this:

In other words, these right-wingers are people who have descended beneath the gutter into the viscous sewer of inhumanity, people who have surrendered any right to claim a role in civilized society.

Paged

35 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 5:41:11pm

That’s fucked up.

36 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 5:41:30pm

re: #33 DubsCorleone

Welcome, hatchling.

37 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 5:42:33pm

re: #31 b.d.

It sure will be fun to see the internet reaction to Glenn’s coverup if that 5th country turns out to be Israel

They would not have held that back for a second. Dudebros don’t believe in innocent Israelis.

38 b.d.  May 19, 2014 5:44:17pm

CHARLES CAN YOU PUT A COUNTDOWN CLOCK UP ON THE FRONTPAGE?!?!?!?

//

39 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 5:44:45pm

re: #31 b.d.

It sure will be fun to see the internet reaction to Glenn’s coverup if that 5th country turns out to be Israel

If it was Israel, Greenwald would definitely not have redacted it.

I think it could be Iraq.

40 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:45:30pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Or in any case one of the “hot zones”.

41 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 5:46:02pm

I imagine Putin knows.

42 jonhendry  May 19, 2014 5:46:52pm

Cuba?

Don’t they have an American in custody who was doing some kind of telecom work?

43 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:47:04pm
Everything that’s redacted can be unredacted, but not the other way around.

?????

44 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:48:35pm

re: #41 Amory Blaine

I imagine Putin knows.

All they had to do was to give a gentle hint: go big or go home.
Not even torture or bribery had to be involved.

45 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:49:00pm

re: #43 FemNaziBitch

?

46 Gus  May 19, 2014 5:51:51pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

If it was Israel, Greenwald would definitely not have redacted it.

I think it could be Iraq.

Yeah. I’m thinking either Iraq, Afghanistan, or maybe Libya.

47 Kragar  May 19, 2014 5:52:19pm
49 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:54:48pm
50 Kid A  May 19, 2014 5:56:00pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

Ahhhhh, a baby Vizsla.

51 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 5:56:13pm

re: #45 Sergey Romanov

?

I’m not sure I really understand the statement in #43, but then again, I don’t need to.

52 Sergey Romanov  May 19, 2014 5:56:47pm

re: #51 FemNaziBitch

Ah. He was explaining why they redacted the name.

53 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 5:57:16pm

Can’t we get some information from a reliable source for once? I was led to believe Bryan Fisher was going to announce today when Jesus was coming back, yet there’s been a complete media blackout.

Can’t wikileaks or GG look into this for us?

54 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 5:58:01pm

55 klys  May 19, 2014 5:59:08pm

Thanks, Tumblr.

The best video regarding the mainstream media today I’ve seen today:

Youtube Video

56 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 5:59:11pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Can’t we get some information from a reliable source for once? I was led to believe Bryan Fisher was going to announce today when Jesus was coming back, yet there’s been a complete media blackout.

Can’t wikileaks or GG look into this for us?

This seems like big news. Where’s the mainstream media?

57 jonhendry  May 19, 2014 5:59:32pm

re: #51 FemNaziBitch

He’s saying you can keep something hidden at first, and then reveal it later, but you can’t reveal something to the public, and then hide it again.

58 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 6:00:13pm

re: #57 jonhendry

re: #54 Amory Blaine

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59 Kid A  May 19, 2014 6:00:13pm

60 Kid A  May 19, 2014 6:00:55pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

This seems like big news. Where’s the mainstream media?

Obsessed with hashtags.

61 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 6:01:03pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Can’t we get some information from a reliable source for once? I was led to believe Bryan Fisher was going to announce today when Jesus was coming back, yet there’s been a complete media blackout.

Can’t wikileaks or GG look into this for us?

He’s back, but he’s hard to see among the OAS folks crowding the National Mall.

62 ObserverArt  May 19, 2014 6:02:37pm

re: #49 FemNaziBitch

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I love this image! I’ve seen it before in a Google search.

63 b.d.  May 19, 2014 6:03:59pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

This seems like big news. Where’s the mainstream media?

WE TRIED TO TELL YOU THAT THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA WAS ANTI ALL THINGS CHRIST!!1!! IF GANESHA CAME BACK THERE WOULD BE WALL TO WALL COVERAGE!!11!

64 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:05:01pm

re: #59 Kid A

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Mooncat. //

65 Kid A  May 19, 2014 6:05:05pm

66 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:05:49pm

Just because.

67 Kid A  May 19, 2014 6:05:52pm

68 Kid A  May 19, 2014 6:06:20pm

re: #66 Gus

That is so rad.

69 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 6:06:26pm

Mew

70 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:09:49pm
71 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 6:10:09pm

That’s Miley’s cat painted on a photo Gus put up a while back. I did this one today.

72 RealityBasedSteve  May 19, 2014 6:11:05pm

re: #66 Gus

Just because.

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couple of them listed over on Hemmings. 170 - 225 K. on the price. That (and its Dodge counterpart) were the cars that made NASCAR say “Whooo…. we gotta take some steps to slow this stuff down”

RBS

73 ObserverArt  May 19, 2014 6:11:08pm

I wonder if the 72 hours is Wikileaks attempt to see if they can get Greenwald to react and then they can crow about who has the real power between Assange and Greenwald.

But the real hope for me is both groups carry this pissing match out to the point that it hurts both by allowing even more people to figure out that real lives don’t matter in the race to see who has the biggest ego. And hopefully all it costs is their reputations and not lives.

Truly a Clash of the Titans (They think they are)

74 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 6:11:22pm

75 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:11:32pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

That’s Miley’s cat painted on a photo Gus put up a while back. I did this one today.

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Yep. Centered on the search area for flight MH370.

76 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:12:28pm
77 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:12:40pm

re: #54 Amory Blaine

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damn you!

78 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:12:59pm

re: #50 Kid A

Ahhhhh, a baby Vizsla.

great expression!

79 DubsCorleone  May 19, 2014 6:13:06pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

Thank you

80 Pie-onist Overlord  May 19, 2014 6:13:10pm

SLAP FIGHT!
South Park Video

81 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:13:56pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

Can’t we get some information from a reliable source for once? I was led to believe Bryan Fisher was going to announce today when Jesus was coming back, yet there’s been a complete media blackout.

Can’t wikileaks or GG look into this for us?

Jesus is not coming back. He’s dead.

82 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:15:10pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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83 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 6:17:08pm

re: #64 Gus

Mooncat. //

Moondog

Image: Moondog17.jpg

Youtube Video

84 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 6:17:46pm

re: #82 Gus

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Ha haa. The new album, “Subservient.”

85 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:18:32pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Ha haa. The new album, “Subservient.”

Easy to make: 3d-pack.com

86 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 6:19:49pm

Very special guest Julian Assange playing with the orchestra on the very tiny violin.

87 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 6:20:45pm

Later, lizards.

88 RealityBasedSteve  May 19, 2014 6:21:18pm

re: #85 Gus

Easy to make: 3d-pack.com

bookmarked. Thanks Gus…

RBS
(I don’t believe 1/2 the things they say about Gus… it can’t all be true)

89 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:22:04pm

re: #88 RealityBasedSteve

bookmarked. Thanks Gus…

RBS
(I don’t believe 1/2 the things they say about Gus… it can’t all be true)

Buy the book.

90 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 6:23:35pm

Just dropping this off—major cuteness:

91 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 6:25:30pm
92 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 6:27:21pm

Woman’s car attacked by self-identified ‘high elf’ battling evil

The last thing the woman from Northeast Portland probably expected when she got up Tuesday morning was that she would be attacked by a sword-wielding elf.

But that’s what happened around 7 a.m. as she drove her red BMW by the intersection of Southeast 7th and Morrison.

A man dressed in chain-mail with a helmet, shield and carrying a sword and staff ran into traffic and started attacking her car.

93 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 6:28:18pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

Sword-wielding elves suck.

94 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 6:29:31pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

Woman’s car attacked by self-identified ‘high elf’ battling evil

Damn.. That was not Moondog.

95 RealityBasedSteve  May 19, 2014 6:30:05pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

Woman’s car attacked by self-identified ‘high elf’ battling evil

Bass, who was cited for criminal mischief and transported to Providence Hospital, also told officers he had taken LSD.

Darn LSD tripping elves. It was bad enough when the faerie folk got into the catnip, but this is over the line.

RBS

96 dog philosopher  May 19, 2014 6:32:44pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

Damn.. That was not Moondog.

this moondog?

97 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:33:15pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

Woman’s car attacked by self-identified ‘high elf’ battling evil

A man dressed in chain-mail with a helmet, shield and carrying a sword and staff ran into traffic and started attacking her car.

Sounds more like Don Quixote than an elf.

98 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:34:17pm

re: #90 CuriousLurker

any clue what they are singing?

99 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 6:36:42pm

re: #96 dog philosopher

this moondog?

Yup. A ‘passing’ acquaintance.

littlegreenfootballs.com

100 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 6:39:02pm

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

any clue what they are singing?

They’re not singing, they’re going on a road trip and the dog is responding to the guy’s excitement. You have to click on the link that goes to the tweet or the one that goes to Vine to hear it—I couldn’t get it to embed and it doesn’t seem to work from within the tweet in a comment.

101 Kid A  May 19, 2014 6:40:27pm

At my local boozer there’s a dudebro I don’t know a bit down the bar loud as fuck who has the whole douchey sales rap down pat. I turn to my right to acknowledge someone and dudebro’s left shirt sleeve says “Top Sales, October 2013.”

102 dog philosopher  May 19, 2014 6:40:29pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Yup. A ‘passing’ acquaintance.

littlegreenfootballs.com

i used to hear about him vaguely when i was growing up in nyc in the 60s

much later i found out how he had become a much admired classical ‘new music’ composer

103 ObserverArt  May 19, 2014 6:41:02pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

They’re not singing, they’re going on a road trip and the dog is responding to the guy’s excitement. You have to click on the link that goes to the tweet or the one that goes to Vine to hear it—I couldn’t get it to embed and it doesn’t seem to work from within the tweet in a comment.

Interesting. I can click on the speaker in the upper left and it has working sound on the tweet.

104 Gus  May 19, 2014 6:41:22pm

Test.

Video

105 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:41:35pm

One of my favorite doggy friends went to the Rainbow Bridge today. Known her for a few years and she did sleep overs at our house sometimes.

:(

dogs don’t live long enough.

106 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 6:44:54pm

re: #102 dog philosopher

i used to hear about him vaguely when i was growing up in nyc in the 60s

much later i found out how he had become a much admired classical ‘new music’ composer

Used to pass him on the way to work. Sometimes I’d nod, don’t think he ever broke his guardian gaze on one of the banks.

107 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:46:26pm

Jack Russell vs. Car Wash
Youtube Video

108 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 6:47:07pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

Interesting. I can click on the speaker in the upper left and it has working sound on the tweet.

Hmm, I can see the animation, but not the speaker icon. Prolly Firefox related as I have a whole shitload of extensions installed to assist with coding & design.

109 dog philosopher  May 19, 2014 6:50:23pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Used to pass him on the way to work. Sometimes I’d nod, don’t think he ever broke his guardian gaze on one of the banks.

wasn’t likely he would have seen you nod as he was blind

110 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 6:50:57pm

111 Lidane  May 19, 2014 6:51:22pm

re: #43 FemNaziBitch

?????

In other words, you can’t take it back once you spill a classified secret.

112 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 6:51:30pm

re: #109 dog philosopher

wasn’t likely he would have seen you nod as he was blind

Didn’t know that then. Later, he was featured in the NYT.

113 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 6:54:38pm
114 Skip Intro  May 19, 2014 6:54:50pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

He’s back, but he’s hard to see among the OAS folks crowding the National Mall.

I was thinking he did come back but he looks like Yasser Arafat so everybody’s keeping real quiet, hoping he’ll go away again.

115 RealityBasedSteve  May 19, 2014 6:57:00pm

re: #114 Skip Intro

I was thinking he did come back but he looks like Yasser Arafat so everybody’s keeping real quiet, hoping he’ll go away again.

He was there, he has a sign about “Doing to the least of my brothers”, another one about “Turning the other cheek”. They ran him out as a commie pinko (and probably a pervert too).

RBS

116 Lidane  May 19, 2014 6:57:23pm

Ezra Klein, film critic:

He’s insane. Both of the trailers so far give me hope that Marvel knows what they’re doing.

117 Lidane  May 19, 2014 6:58:47pm

re: #110 FemNaziBitch

EARS! LOOK AT ALL THOSE EARS!

*ahem*

118 dog philosopher  May 19, 2014 7:00:06pm

re: #115 RealityBasedSteve

He was there, he has a sign about “Doing to the least of my brothers”, another one about “Turning the other cheek”. They ran him out as a commie pinko (and probably a pervert too).

RBS

my bank wrote me something about returning the other check

119 urbanmeemaw  May 19, 2014 7:02:54pm

re: #59 Kid A

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That cat looks like Godwald.

120 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 7:03:41pm

re: #117 Lidane

EARS! LOOK AT ALL THOSE EARS!

*ahem*

I know!!!!!

121 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 7:06:01pm
122 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 7:11:45pm

123 Varek Raith  May 19, 2014 7:12:14pm

re: #122 FemNaziBitch

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BLEH!

124 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 7:12:24pm

Yeah, it’s just that kinda night. Google puppy pictures and keep scrolling.

I’m sufficiently calm now.

I’m going to bed.

nytol

125 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:12:36pm

re: #111 Lidane

In other words, you can’t take it back once you spill a classified secret.

Exactly. Greenwald might actually understand that full disclosure in this particular case would put people if danger and realized his reputation would take a hit if he were known to have gotten people killed.

126 SpaceJesus  May 19, 2014 7:14:15pm

Freep’s cogent analysis of the Oregon SSM decision today:

To: tumblindice

When faggot Federal Judge Tyrants subvert the fairly resolved elections and will of the citizens of the respective states, they only ensure the abolishment of the Federal Judiciary in its current form.

So in effect , this faggot scumbag has actually sealed the Federal Judiciary’s fate, and is instrumental in the demise of its ability to destroy the USA

Thanks a lot Faggot!

92 posted on 5/19/2014, 8:08:34 PM by Rome2000
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127 Lidane  May 19, 2014 7:15:19pm

OUTRAGE!

How else will I make sure they put the guac on my order?! ZOMG TYRANNY!

128 SpaceJesus  May 19, 2014 7:16:23pm

Stand with the Bundy Ranch against Chipotle

129 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:17:52pm

re: #126 SpaceJesus

Freep’s cogent analysis of the Oregon SSM decision today:

Shorter Freep: THE EBBIL JUDGES AR’ FORCIN’ BIG GAY DOWN OUR THROATS!!1 REVOLUTION IZ NEEDED!!!1 MELON LABEL!!!11

130 SpaceJesus  May 19, 2014 7:17:56pm

You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands right after they’re done jerking it to the Expendables 2, Chipotle.

131 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 7:21:24pm
132 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2014 7:22:42pm

re: #127 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

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How else will I make sure they put the guac on my order?! ZOMG TYRANNY!

This appeared on Freep, is backed up by Forbes.

Image: gunschipotle.jpeg

What could go wrong?

133 Whack-A-Mole  May 19, 2014 7:26:52pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

Any self respecting elf would have used a bow.

134 Gus  May 19, 2014 7:28:18pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

This appeared on Freep, is backed up by Forbes.

Image: gunschipotle.jpeg

What could go wrong?

What a bunch of freaks. As if during hunting season hunters would go in some joint to get a bite to eat and bring their rifles or shotguns along with them. This is the new breed of gun nuts that bare little resemblance to gun owners and hunters of the past. These people are childish fools.

135 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:30:05pm

re: #134 Gus

What a bunch of freaks. As if during hunting season hunter would go in some joint to get a bight to eat and bring their rifles or shotguns along with them. This is the new breed of gun nuts that bare little resemblance to gun owners and hunters of the past. These people are childish fools.

They see carrying those rifles as an act of rebellion, which it is: Juvenile Rebellion.

136 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 7:31:09pm

re: #127 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

How else will I make sure they put the guac on my order?! ZOMG TYRANNY!

It’s a bit disturbing when businesses need to ask their patrons not to pack heat.

“Dear customers, If you are carrying a firearm, please deposit it in one of our free security lockers or feel free to use our convenient drive-thru window. Thank you, The Management.”

137 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:37:46pm

re: #136 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

It’s a bit disturbing when businesses need to ask their patrons not to pack heat.

“Dear customers, If you are carrying a firearm, please deposit it in one of our free security lockers or feel free to use our convenient drive-thru window. Thank you, The Management.”

The funny part is that Chipotle wouldn’t care if it was just people carrying a concealed handgun. Even open carry of a pistol might have become accepted. But instead these goofballs had to bring in rifles and make a big show of being armed. As a result, they got asked to stop using Chipotle restaurants as places to strike their Patriot PosesTM.

138 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 7:42:46pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

The funny part is that Chipotle wouldn’t care if it was just people carrying a concealed handgun. Even open carry of a pistol might have become accepted. But instead these goofballs had to bring in rifles and make a big show of being armed. As a result, they got asked to stop using Chipotle restaurants as places to strike their Patriot PosesTM.

Maybe it’s just me, but if I owned a restaurant, the only open-carry patrons I’d want would be cops. Everyone else could just leave their weapons at home, or go eat somewhere else. There is no need in a civilized society for civilians to carry firearms while doing their everyday business.

139 SpaceJesus  May 19, 2014 7:43:45pm

re: #132 Decatur Deb

I bet those two have some bitcoins and men’s rights pamphlets to sell you as well.

140 petesh  May 19, 2014 7:46:34pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Elmo Lewis was a pseudonym for Brian Jones, who was probably pissed that Jagger got the headline. Keith dropped the s at the end of his name when they got the record deal, restored it later. Stu stayed with the Stones forever (but not as a full member); Dick Taylor formed The Pretty Things. Mick Avery joined The Kinks. And where the hell did you find this?

141 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 7:48:28pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Yup. A ‘passing’ acquaintance.

littlegreenfootballs.com

That’s actually a pretty cool tune. Love learning new things like that :thumbsup!:

142 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:50:18pm

re: #138 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Maybe it’s just me, but if I owned a restaurant, the only open-carry patrons I’d want would be cops. Everyone else could just leave their weapons at home (or in their cars), or go eat somewhere else. There is no need in a civilized society for civilians to carry firearms while doing their everyday business.

Slight addition, since it should be OK to simply leave the gun locked in the car if you don’t want it in your building. That or a “concealed carry only, please” policy would be your right. As for me, I’m fine with someone carrying a gun iif they’re just carrying the gun, such as a pistol in a holster. But carrying around a rifle like that rubs it in everyone’s face and is just obnoxious. It doesn’t help normalize modern sporting rifles, it just makes people carrying them everywhere look like inconsiderate weirdos.

143 William Barnett-Lewis  May 19, 2014 7:50:34pm

re: #116 Lidane

Ezra Klein, film critic:

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He’s insane. Both of the trailers so far give me hope that Marvel knows what they’re doing.

The first one made me interested. The new one actually has me willing to go to the theater to see it. First time in, dunno, how long since Private Ryan came out? “Spirit in the Sky”? Hoot!

144 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 7:52:09pm

re: #138 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

For all the controversy about CCW, this illustrates an advantage. A concealed gun does not intimidate anyone except perhaps in a healthy way the CCW permitee.

Let just say we have an off duty or out of jurisdiction cop, or a guy that carries cash to deposit and did the whole CCW training program and then more and then more than that. Maybe has to carry a valuable item from one place to a distant one. He gets gas, he eats, he drives across that state, no one bothered at all by that little revolver out of sight.

That’s not a guy that wants to pose. He just wants to pass through on his own business. Posers are dangerous. They get in over their head. Fantasy then awful reality in some incident.

Again we have to see how different this is in town vs way out there in the remote areas of small towns separated by hunting areas. Like Alaska. Ya just can’t lump that in with Seattle. These idiots do exactly that.

145 Kid A  May 19, 2014 7:53:04pm

Damn illegals don’t speak English at Chipotle, what do you expect us to do to make sure we get extra salsa with our order?
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146 darthstar  May 19, 2014 7:54:34pm

That which is redacted can be unredacted, but not the other way around…gee, Glenn…What powerpoint slide did you steal that line from?

147 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:57:28pm

re: #144 Rightwingconspirator

For all the controversy about CCW, this illustrates an advantage. A concealed gun does not intimidate anyone except perhaps in a healthy way the CCW permitee.

Let just say we have an off duty or out of jurisdiction cop, or a guy that carries cash to deposit and did the whole CCW trainingprogram and then more and then more than that. Maybe has to carry a valuable item from one place to a distant one. He gets gas, he eats, he drives across that state, no one bothered at all by that little revolver out of sight.

That’s not a guy that wants to pose. He just wants to pass through on his own business. Posers are dangerous. They get in over their head. Fantasy then awful reality in some incident.

Again we have to see how different this is in town vs way out there in the remote areas of small towns separated by hunting areas. Like Alaska. Ya just can’t lump that in with Seattle. These idiots do exactly that.

THIS. There was a case earlier this year of an off-duty Army sergeant who got in some trouble for carrying a AR-type rifle while on a hike with his son. As he was out in the country and in Texas feral hogs are a danger, his rifle wasn’t a problem, IMO (and ultimately he only had to pay a small fine and his career shouldn’t be harmed). But as you so rightly put it, carrying a rifle into a restaurant is a different matter. That’s not being ready to face a threat, that’s just showing off in a very unpleasant way.

148 petesh  May 19, 2014 7:57:44pm

re: #146 darthstar

That which is redacted can be unredacted, but not the other way around…gee, Glenn…What powerpoint slide did you steal that line from?

Sounds like Rumsfeld, don’t it?

149 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 7:59:05pm

re: #146 darthstar

That which is redacted can be unredacted, but not the other way around…gee, Glenn…What powerpoint slide did you steal that line from?

Eh, for once I’d say to give Glenn Greenwald a break. He was actually saying something true for a not-indecent reason.

150 b_sharp  May 19, 2014 8:01:00pm

re: #146 darthstar

That which is redacted can be unredacted, but not the other way around…gee, Glenn…What powerpoint slide did you steal that line from?

Once the cat’s out of the bag, Schrödinger get’s pissed at needing to find a new cat.

151 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 8:01:10pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

They see carrying those rifles as an act of rebellion, which it is: Juvenile Rebellion.

Seriously. It makes me feel like people from other countries look at us as being closer to this or this or this than a democratic republic that respects the rule of law. The idiots in the restaurant may not be intending to kill anyone, but they have that same ridiculous “look at me!” macho expression on their faces

152 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 8:01:23pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

I’m starting to think a helpful kind of Page from time to rare time might be to look at some self defense incidents and take an unflinching look. What was right and what could have been better or perhaps worse. Set aside gun nut and extreme anti gun views a moment. Anecdotes can be teaching moments as long as the limits of such examples are freely admitted.

153 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:02:50pm

Best line of the day:

“It takes 20 seconds to get into trouble, and 20 years to get out.”

154 Kid A  May 19, 2014 8:04:07pm

Have the wingnuts chimed in about the evil, oppressive second amendment-hating, jackbooted Obama-loving commies at Chipolte yet?

155 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:05:35pm
156 Kid A  May 19, 2014 8:06:52pm
157 Gus  May 19, 2014 8:07:57pm
158 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 8:10:02pm

re: #156 Kid A

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These people have no sense. Just because you legally CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD. That’s just stupid.

159 Gus  May 19, 2014 8:12:08pm

That rifle on the right is almost as big as the guy holding it.

160 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:14:15pm

re: #159 Gus

That rifle on the right is almost as big as the guy holding it.

A very tricked out AK, that one is.

161 darthstar  May 19, 2014 8:16:29pm

A-weema-way, A-weema-way,
A-weema-way, A-weema-way…

162 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:16:39pm
163 darthstar  May 19, 2014 8:16:59pm

In the jungle, the mighty jungle…

164 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:18:47pm

re: #161 darthstar

A-weema-way, A-weema-way,
A-weema-way, A-weema-way…

In Texas,
In screwy Texas,
The wingnuts show their gunz.
In Texas,
In zany Texas,
The wingnuts show their gunz.
Oooooo…

165 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 8:23:17pm

Good article on the situation in Libya and background of the General.

Khalifa Hiftar, the ex-general leading a revolt in Libya, spent years in exile in Northern Virginia

He does seem like a homegrown guy but if he does have foreign backing I wonder if the Egyptian military might be using him to limit the Botherhood’s influence in N. Africa.
His situation is interesting. How much would Western powers move to stop him from cleaning up the Islamists? As long as he doesn’t go nuts with it I don’t think NATO or US would interfere with him.

166 Stanley Sea  May 19, 2014 8:23:48pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

A very tricked out AK, that one is.

That’s what we object to. Why does he need that? Oh to show power at Chipolte.

REALLY?

167 jaunte  May 19, 2014 8:25:28pm

re: #151 CuriousLurker

Seriously. It makes me feel like people from other countries look at us as being closer to this or this or this than a democratic republic that respects the rule of law. The idiots in the restaurant may not be intending to kill anyone, but they have that same ridiculous, “look at me!” macho expression on their faces

Chez Pazienza:

Maybe it’s really about something else: power. The sense that you’re the baddest bad-ass in the land, ready to stop any threat, no matter how fearsome in your own imagination. That you’re locked, loaded, and ready to go down, as Nizzari says, in “a pile of empty brass” if necessary. If you think this way, you know what that makes you? Yeah, the last person on earth who should be armed.
thedailybanter.com

168 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:25:57pm

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Slight addition, since it should be OK to simply leave the gun locked in the car if you don’t want it in your building. That or a “concealed carry only, please” policy would be your right. As for me, I’m fine with someone carrying a gun iif they’re just carrying the gun, such as a pistol in a holster. But carrying around a rifle like that rubs it in everyone’s face and is just obnoxious. It doesn’t help normalize modern sporting rifles, it just makes people carrying them everywhere look like inconsiderate weirdos. paranoid nutcases.

FTFY.

As I said, there is no need for civilians to carry firearms in a civilized society. We are not living inside a point-and-shoot computer game, or a zombie movie. 99% percent of the time, for everyday life, people just don’t need to carry a firearm, because there’s no need for one.

Bank security guards or police are the exception, though I’ve never seen Brinks guys on a lunch break eating in a restaurant. I suspect they have to get drive-through because they have to stay with their vehicle at all times.

Some folks are uncomfortable around guns. As a restaurant owner, I should have the right to make my place a gun-free zone, because I would want everyone to be comfortable in my restaurant.

Besides, accidents happen.

169 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:26:25pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

That’s what we object to. Why does he need that? Oh to show power at Chipolte.

REALLY?

I’ve got no problem with his owning the AK, or taking it out to the range to shoot. But I cannot conceive of a good purpose for carrying it around as he does.

But my parents taught my to respect the sensibilities of others, so what do I know?

170 Kid A  May 19, 2014 8:26:29pm
171 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 8:26:38pm

re: #167 jaunte

Chez Pazienza:

1000x THIS.

172 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 8:27:21pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, the new hot rod. Better to add horsepower to a muscle car.

173 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:29:05pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

I’ve got no problem with his owning the AK, or taking it out to the range to shoot. But I cannot conceive of a good purpose for carrying it around as he does.

But my parents taught my to respect the sensibilities of others, so what do I know?

But there are some people who take the Second Amendment as a requirement that everyone has to carry a firearm — and as big a one as they can afford.

174 jaunte  May 19, 2014 8:29:08pm
175 The War TARDIS  May 19, 2014 8:29:31pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

And considering how the MB has acted thus far, I say give him a blank check.

176 jaunte  May 19, 2014 8:31:54pm

Some of our CA photo lizards really should try for that.

177 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2014 8:32:46pm

re: #173 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

But there are some people who take the Second Amendment as a requirement that everyone has to carry a firearm — and as big a one as they can afford.

These idiots make me wish that every black, brown, and identifiably Muslim, Sikh, etc. person would start open carrying like these idiots, but if that happened people would probably end up getting hurt.

178 Gus  May 19, 2014 8:33:18pm

re: #170 Kid A

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The decline of the middle class actually beings somewhere around 1967.

179 Killgore Trout  May 19, 2014 8:34:19pm

re: #175 The War TARDIS

And considering how the MB has acted thus far, I say give him a blank check.

I wouldn’t go that far. He does seem to control most of the military so he can do whatever he want, let’s see what he does. The reason I think of Egypt is because this can set the tone for the rest of the Arab Spring. Islamists need to be kept in check but the last thing the Muslim World needs is more military dictatorships.

180 klys  May 19, 2014 8:34:27pm

re: #176 jaunte

Some of our CA VA photo lizards really should try for that.

Fixed for you, as it appears to be an error in the tweet.

Sadly.

I would have tried.

181 klys  May 19, 2014 8:35:22pm

re: #180 klys

Fixed for you, as it appears to be an error in the tweet.

Sadly.

I would have tried.

Also, apparently, the deadline was May 9th.

So, we need to go back in time. Anyone have the keys to the car?

182 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:35:37pm

re: #173 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

But there are some people who take the Second Amendment as a requirement that everyone has to carry a firearm — and as big a one as they can afford.

Well, if they were just going for big…

Image: tumblr_n5rikskOcQ1r9khx4o1_1280.jpg

That big rifle is a WWII-era PTRS and it fires a 14.5x114mm round. It’s good for hunting… if you’re hunting armored personnel carriers. ;)

The smaller rifle in the hands of the man above the trench is an SKS, and that one clearly still has its folding bayonet attached. It fires the same 7.62x39mm round as the AK-47. A member of our forum actually owns one of those.

183 klys  May 19, 2014 8:36:43pm

re: #181 klys

Also, apparently, the deadline was May 9th.

So, we need to go back in time. Anyone have the keys to the car?

Reading this again, it appears their tweet links a *different* launch, in June.

Off to try and source the info on the CA one in July.

184 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:36:45pm
185 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 8:37:53pm

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

That photo is probably indicative of why my Ukrainian colleagues have opted to stay another year teaching in China.

186 klys  May 19, 2014 8:37:55pm

re: #183 klys

Reading this again, it appears their tweet links a *different* launch, in June.

Off to try and source the info on the CA one in July.

The correct link for the CA opportunity in July.

187 The War TARDIS  May 19, 2014 8:39:38pm

re: #179 Killgore Trout

The MB actually lost the last election. They have only come to power by getting the Half of Parliament not elected on Party List intimidated into following them. There have been very, very frequent assassinations of Anti-MB leaders. They need to be forced out, even if at the end of a gun.

I would say the Egypt should also be given free rein to do whatever is needed to get Heftar to win. After this, I would say that the MB needs to be proscribed across the Middle East.

188 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:40:08pm

Hamas video raises concerns of possible train attack

A new train line from Ashkelon to Sderot may be vulnerable to missile fire from the Gaza Strip, a new Hamas video suggests. The video, found by Israeli forces in Gaza, depicts detailed Palestinian surveillance of an Israeli passenger train.

The train line, only a few months old, was built to link the southern city of Sderot to the center of Israel. All the stations are fully protected against missile attacks. But now it has emerged that the Palestinians are monitoring the train line from a vantage point only several hundred meters from the border.

An unnamed official involved in the incident told Israel Hayom that the footage was recovered after a recent arrest of a senior Hamas operative in Gaza.

189 The War TARDIS  May 19, 2014 8:45:29pm

Still feeling worn out and exhausted.

190 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 8:47:15pm

Mother of the year..

191 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2014 8:54:15pm

re: #188 NJDhockeyfan

Hamas video raises concerns of possible train attack

Anti-tank missiles would indeed pose a major threat. And on open ground the Russian AT-4 (NATO reporting name ‘Spigot’) Hamas has used in the past has a range of over 3000 meters. Wouldn’t even need to hit the train, just the tracks close enough in front of it for the train to be unable to stop.

192 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:03:22pm

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

Anti-tank missiles would indeed pose a major threat. And on open ground the Russian AT-4 (NATO reporting name ‘Spigot’) Hamas has used in the past has a range of over 3000 meters. Wouldn’t even need to hit the train, just the tracks close enough in front of it for the train to be unable to stop.

I assume this will push back peace talks a little bit but no worry… the UN will get right on this.
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193 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:04:55pm

Gov. Scott Walker’s business claim doesn’t hold up to scrutiny

Walker’s count includes hundreds of nonprofit organizations such as Scout troops, youth athletic leagues and condo associations. It also includes thousands of limited-liability companies that often are set up by real estate investors simply as holding companies for property. Walker’s count, according to PolitiFact, includes out-of-state companies that register in Wisconsin because they might one day want to do business here. And the governor’s list includes start-ups that are barely organized.

That’s not what you’d think, to hear the governor tell it. Walker has suggested that all of the new entities he has recently cited are producing jobs or soon will be. As PolitiFact noted, Walker told a Door County business group in April: “On average — some will do more, some will do less — but if in the next year or so they each add up to 10 new employees, you add that to the more than 100,000 new jobs we’ve created and you see we surpass 250,000 new jobs.”

Walker’s goal, of course, is to deflect attention from his most high-profile campaign promise: The governor promised that Wisconsin companies would create 250,000 net new jobs during his first term. The latest scorecard shows 105,800 jobs have been created, and even the governor’s most ardent supporters realize that he won’t be able to fulfill his promise by the end of his term in January.

194 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:12:24pm
195 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 9:12:54pm

re: #193 Amory Blaine

If Walker hadn’t scotched that high speed rail plan, he could have added more jobs toward that magic goal. But federal jobs are TEH EBIL, or something.

196 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 9:13:32pm

re: #194 NJDhockeyfan

Please tell me the kid’s name is not Lizzie.

197 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:21:11pm
198 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:22:54pm
199 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 9:25:37pm

Oh so bummed out. Car hits cat out front, neighbor thinks it’s my cat maybe so comes knocking, but I know better, mine are all inside but I go out. I wind up confirming the fatality of the poor kitty. Looked into those deep cat eyes and also found no pulse with my fingers, no lung activity poor thing is gone.

Life is so fragile.

200 TedStriker  May 19, 2014 9:29:01pm

re: #199 Rightwingconspirator

Oh so bummed out. Car hits cat out front, neighbor thinks it’s my cat maybe so comes knocking, but I know better, mine are all inside but I go out. I wind up confirming the fatality of the poor kitty. Looked into those deep cat eyes and also found no pulse with my fingers, no lung activity poor thing is gone.

Life is so fragile.

One of the things that sucks the most about pets (even if they aren’t yours) is digging the hole.

201 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:29:27pm

Drug lords are sitting on shit tons of heroin.

202 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:32:30pm

re: #199 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry to hear, that is so sad. I was walking home from a bar once I saw a dog get hit by a car. I pet him til he died.

203 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 9:34:19pm

re: #200 TedStriker

One of the things that sucks the most about pets (even if they aren’t yours) is digging the hole.

Yeah, it’s a reminder to all keep your cats in at night or just in.

204 Jack Burton  May 19, 2014 9:35:11pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

A very tricked out AK, that one is.

It’s actually an SKS with an aftermarket stock, etc. I have basically that same rifle but without the blatantly CA illegal stuff on it. (ie no removable 20 round magazine.)

What I don’t do is parade it around town like a small child waving his arms to get attention in an asinine attempt to make a political point. But like you, I respect the sensibilities of others.

205 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:36:19pm

George the cat has been whining to go outside lately I hope he doesn’t get out.

206 dog philosopher  May 19, 2014 9:38:30pm

re: #202 Amory Blaine

Sorry to hear, that is so sad. I was walking home from a bar once I saw a dog get hit by a car. I pet him til he died.

one hot and humid 3am in nyc, so humid there was an impenetrable london fog hanging over the streets, i was lying awake in my father’s apartment on the 36th floor with the window open, drinking in the gloom

there came an unearthly howling moan, a canine sound, that went on and on, but one that could have only been produced by a damaged creature, howled out of torn lungs

there was no place to go to escape it, and no way to see through the impenetrable fog down all the way to the street, no way to do anything but hear it die

207 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 9:40:03pm
208 Gus  May 19, 2014 9:40:34pm
209 Gus  May 19, 2014 9:44:01pm
210 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:45:01pm

Those are incredible images.

211 Rightwingconspirator  May 19, 2014 9:45:05pm

re: #205 Amory Blaine

George the cat has been whining to go outside lately I hope he doesn’t get out.

Give him a stroke and a treat. Tell him RWC says hello.

212 Kragar  May 19, 2014 9:47:42pm
213 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 9:51:55pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

[…]

He does seem like a homegrown guy but if he does have foreign backing I wonder if the Egyptian military might be using him to limit the Botherhood’s influence in N. Africa.
His situation is interesting. How much would Western powers move to stop him from cleaning up the Islamists? As long as he doesn’t go nuts with it I don’t think NATO or US would interfere with him.

That’s a great name. Hmmm, who am I going to use it on….?

214 Gus  May 19, 2014 9:51:57pm
215 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:52:05pm

re: #211 Rightwingconspirator

Done and done. I had to wake him up. -_-

216 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 9:54:36pm

War featuring Cheech and Chong are on Arsenio.

217 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 9:55:12pm
218 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 9:57:50pm

That’s right - now they’re accusing me of being a Birther. Which means ignoring years of posts debunking and making fun of Birthers. It’s mind-boggling how creepy and dishonest these people are.

219 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:00:02pm
220 Jack Burton  May 19, 2014 10:02:54pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

That’s right - now they’re accusing me of being a Birther. Which means ignoring years of posts debunking and making fun of Birthers. It’s mind-boggling how creepy and dishonest these people are.

221 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 10:08:27pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

That’s right - now they’re accusing me of being a Birther. Which means ignoring years of posts debunking and making fun of Birthers. It’s mind-boggling how creepy and dishonest these people are.

it’s like calling someone a racist means that you are the actual racist.

222 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 10:11:08pm

They’re using one post that I wrote on the very first day these birth certificate claims surfaced to call me a Birther, and ignoring hundreds of posts for years after that. Unreal. Sleazy beyond belief.

223 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 10:12:36pm

MonaHol and the Botherhood of the Traveling Sockpuppets.

224 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:12:50pm
225 wheat-dogghazi  May 19, 2014 10:13:29pm

Typical. They’re citing only that evidence that supports their POV, while ignoring all contradictory evidence that’s more compelling.

226 Charles Johnson  May 19, 2014 10:15:16pm

And of course, Mona Holland’s source for this lie is … the deranged far right psychos of the stalker blog. She’s found her level.

227 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 10:20:47pm

re: #224 Gus

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Pernicious G and the RTs.

228 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:21:38pm

Needs a pork pie hat.

229 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:23:15pm
230 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:23:58pm

Maybe one of these jobbers.

231 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2014 10:32:37pm

Not a fan of the skimmer hat?

232 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:34:12pm
233 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:34:23pm

re: #231 Amory Blaine

Not a fan of the skimmer hat?

Sometimes the mouse cursor ends up in the wrong place.

234 kirkspencer  May 19, 2014 10:36:23pm

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

Anti-tank missiles would indeed pose a major threat. And on open ground the Russian AT-4 (NATO reporting name ‘Spigot’) Hamas has used in the past has a range of over 3000 meters. Wouldn’t even need to hit the train, just the tracks close enough in front of it for the train to be unable to stop.

Um, no.

Or rather yes, IF it could hit a rail it would create that problem. But hitting that narrow piece of metal that’s shorter than the radius of the missile requires a tricky bit of controller expertise so the missile strikes downward and clears the berm and the tie.

It’s only about a pound of high explosive and the majority of its penetration is due to the shape of the charge. That shape is deflected and wasted on high-angle shots, especially against tamped soil and timber.

235 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:36:25pm

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

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Oh brother.

236 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 10:37:06pm

re: #233 Gus

Sometimes the mouse cursor ends up in the wrong place.

Some people have strong opinions about hats.

237 wrenchwench  May 19, 2014 10:39:32pm

The problem? Kitty litter. No kidding.

238 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:40:40pm

re: #236 wrenchwench

Some people have strong opinions about hats.

Men without hats. I used to wear a bike helmet back in the day. But, I wasn’t a hat guy. :D

239 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:42:13pm

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

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Seek truth from facts with Questioning the War on Terror author Kevin Barrett, stopimperialism.org’s Eric Draitser, James Corbett of The Corbett Report, and possible 2016 presidential candidate Jesse Ventura.

240 dog philosopher  May 19, 2014 10:42:13pm

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the internets makes it possible for more people to fuck with your head from farther away and more at one time than any fucking with people’s heads has been fucked with before from the beginning of time to the present day of now

241 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:45:37pm
242 Gus  May 19, 2014 10:46:10pm

243 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:49:49pm

re: #239 Gus

Seek truth from facts with Questioning the War on Terror author Kevin Barrett, stopimperialism.org’s Eric Draitser, James Corbett of The Corbett Report, and possible 2016 presidential candidate Jesse Ventura.

LOL… I hope Jesse gets invited to at least one debate. Some laughter would be good before the long negative nasty presidential campaigning is in full swing.

244 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 10:51:49pm

I didn’t sleep. Watched the movie, Hugo. I really liked it.

245 NJDhockeyfan  May 19, 2014 10:54:15pm

Uh oh

246 Gus  May 19, 2014 11:01:39pm
247 Swift2991  May 19, 2014 11:02:08pm

So. GG is the moderate compared to Assange. Good to know.

248 simoom  May 19, 2014 11:03:04pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Amazing how Wikileaks ignores what Russia does in Wikileaks’ own backyard in Europe. Blind spot wide enough to drive Putin’s FSB through without the slightest look.

Four years ago they had a bit of a trial balloon about Russian corruption leaks which never seemed to go anywhere:

joshuafoust.com

October 26, 2010: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange tells pro-government Izvestia: “We have [compromising materials] about Russia, about your government and businessmen,but not as much as we’d like… We will publish these materials soon.”

November 2, 2010: An official at the Center for Information Security of the FSB, Russia’s secret police, told the independent Russian news website LifeNews “It’s essential to remember that given the will and the relevant orders, [WikiLeaks] can be made inaccessible forever.”

April 17, 2012: Government-funded Russian TV station RT gives Julian Assange his own talk show.

249 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 11:10:47pm
250 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 11:16:51pm
“Somebody who premeditates what he’s doing to me, over and over again, for three-plus years, in my own home, in my own bed, by somebody I trusted fully, 100%, deserves to spend a great deal of their life in prison to pay for it,” Boardman told The Times. “What he did was wrong, and it was proven that it was wrong, and there was no consequence.”

Boardman added: “He never once apologized, never once expressed any type of remorse, and his explanation for admittedly drugging me was because I was snippy. Women, don’t get snippy out there; you might get drugged and raped.

Yeah, it’s Paged

251 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 11:19:41pm
252 FemNaziBitch  May 19, 2014 11:19:51pm

nytol

253 freetoken  May 19, 2014 11:33:02pm

re: #251 FemNaziBitch

I wonder if she has a link to that?

Anyway, the idea gets kicked around by satirists now and again:

Did Homosexuality Kill The Dinosaurs?

254 Gus  May 19, 2014 11:44:25pm
255 Varek Raith  May 20, 2014 12:34:38am

Zod help me I’m arguing with 9-11 truthers at rawstory.
:/

256 Gus  May 20, 2014 12:57:49am
257 freetoken  May 20, 2014 1:21:54am
258 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 1:22:34am

re: #255 Varek Raith

Zod help me I’m arguing with 9-11 truthers at rawstory.
:/

Truthers, birthers, conspiracy theorists of all stripes all over the intertubes.

It used to be that conspiracy nutburgers were isolated - at best, harmless cranks like your crazy aunt or uncle; at worst, standing on soapboxes in parks and raving for all to hear.

Then the internet allowed them new and fertile ground to grow their fetid dreams and connect with other like-minded mentally disturbed individuals.

That’s not to say that aren’t real conspiracies - this article cracked.com clearly shows that. But the vast majority of them, from chemtrails to HAARP to 9/11 and Sandy Hook Truthers - are largely the products of fevered imaginations.

259 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 3:08:10am

Hee, heee, heee…..so much butthurt from wingnuts on yesterday’s SSM decision out of Oregon.

MOAR TEARZ!!!

MOAR!! I MUST HAVE MOAR TEARZ OF IMPOTENT WINGNUT RAGE!!!

260 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 3:14:19am

I have survived judging yet another English speaking contest. Twenty-six contestants, three and a half hours. I need cawfee!

261 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:07:06am

re: #260 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I have survived judging yet another English speaking contest. Twenty-six contestants, three and a half hours. I need cawfee!

I survived a short trip to England, staying in a hostel—and forgot to take a toothbrush. The entire time I was in the dream it was in that hostel talking to people.

262 Alyosha  May 20, 2014 4:20:10am

re: #251 FemNaziBitch

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Whoever keeps arguing that homosexuality has led to the extinction of any species must explain to me where all these bears keep coming from ;)

263 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:33:27am

re: #250 FemNaziBitch

Republican former prosecutor who brags a lot. I put his FB campaign page over on the other post.

indyjudges.org Also, only got an 80% rating from the Indiana bar assn.

advanceindiana.blogspot.com

264 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:39:03am

Yeah, pay attention to conditions in your own country, Pootie-Poot.

Casualties feared as Russian passenger train and freight train collide near Moscow - ITAR TASS via @Reuters
End of alert

265 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 4:45:03am

Nice kitty…

New Zealand: Cat brings home bag of cannabis

bbc.com

Silly owner called cops.

266 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 4:48:49am

re: #260 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I have survived judging yet another English speaking contest. Twenty-six contestants, three and a half hours. I need cawfee!

Many years ago, I was doing an English lesson on controversial media - songs, films, TV shows, etc. I pointed out this was nothing new. To illustrate my point, I played “Mack the Knife” - Bobby Darin’s 1959 version, to be specific.

Only one of the students - Pavla - picked up on the lyrics right away. When it was over, she was like, “Oh my God - that song’s about a serial killer!”. The others started ridiculing her, so I said to the class, “No, actually Pavla’s right; maybe not a serial killer per se, but certainly one bad dude.” So I wrote the lyrics on a whiteboard and played the song again.

They were all kind of shocked that a song now considered a jazz standard was so exceedingly dark - and that it was from before their parents were born.

267 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 4:51:01am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Many years ago, I was doing an English lesson on controversial media - songs, films, TV shows, etc. I pointed out this was nothing new. To illustrate my point, I played “Mack the Knife” - Bobby Darin’s 1959 version, to be specific.

Only one of the students - Pavla - picked up on the lyrics right away. When it was over, she was like, “Oh my God - that song’s about a serial killer!”. The others started ridiculing her, so I said to the class, “No, actually Pavla’s right; maybe not a serial killer per se, but certainly one bad dude.” So I wrote the lyrics on a whiteboard and played the song again.

They were all kind of shocked that a song now considered a jazz standard was so exceedingly dark - and that it was from before their parents were born.

The original song is from Brecht’s Three Penny Opera, is it not? It also has “Pirate Jenny” another dark classic.

268 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 4:52:21am

re: #267 Pie-onist Overlord

The original song is from Brecht’s Three Penny Opera, is it not? It also has “Pirate Jenny” another dark classic.

Yep…..it’s from Three Penny Opera. Bobby Darin and also Louis Armstrong made that song a classic in the American jazz repertoire.

269 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 4:52:58am

re: #268 Dr Lizardo

Yep…..it’s from Three Penny Opera. Bobby Darin and also Louis Armstrong made that song a classic in the American jazz repertoire.

I remember Judy Collins’ cover of “Pirate Jenny” but Lottie Lenya sang the original.

270 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 4:53:19am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Love the Three Penny.

Another good one to use in that situation is to see how many realize that “Every Breath You Take” is about a very creepy stalker and Not a love song. I shudder when I hear of it used in weddings …

271 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 4:54:47am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

Can only hear that in Rita Moreno’s voice.

272 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 4:54:54am

re: #270 William Barnett-Lewis

Love the Three Penny.

Another good one to use in that situation is to see how many realize that “Every Breath You Take” is about a very creepy stalker and Not a love song. I shudder when I hear of it used in weddings …

That’s very true….the first time I heard it, my immediate impression was that the song was about the theme of obsession. It’s most certainly not a “love song”. Unless one’s idea of true love is Charles Manson or something……

273 BongCrodny  May 20, 2014 5:05:26am

re: #156 Kid A

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*Exactly* the two people I want to see with guns when I go to Chipotle.

274 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 5:07:38am

re: #270 William Barnett-Lewis

Love the Three Penny.

Another good one to use in that situation is to see how many realize that “Every Breath You Take” is about a very creepy stalker and Not a love song. I shudder when I hear of it used in weddings …

Another good one is “Jet Boy Jet Girl”…..either the version by Elton Motello or The Damned. I don’t know if a song like that would be played on American radio.

275 Dark_Falcon  May 20, 2014 5:10:39am

re: #270 William Barnett-Lewis

Love the Three Penny.

Another good one to use in that situation is to see how many realize that “Every Breath You Take” is about a very creepy stalker and Not a love song. I shudder when I hear of it used in weddings …

Most of the songs the Police are known for were about creeps and sickos:

Youtube Video

276 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 5:16:47am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Many years ago, I was doing an English lesson on controversial media - songs, films, TV shows, etc. I pointed out this was nothing new. To illustrate my point, I played “Mack the Knife” - Bobby Darin’s 1959 version, to be specific.

Only one of the students - Pavla - picked up on the lyrics right away. When it was over, she was like, “Oh my God - that song’s about a serial killer!”. The others started ridiculing her, so I said to the class, “No, actually Pavla’s right; maybe not a serial killer per se, but certainly one bad dude.” So I wrote the lyrics on a whiteboard and played the song again.

They were all kind of shocked that a song now considered a jazz standard was so exceedingly dark - and that it was from before their parents were born.

I wish the topic our contestants had were as interesting. They had two fairly insipid choices: (1) Smile and the whole world smiles with you or (2) Attitude is what determines one’s happiness. Three of the speakers gave decent talks. The rest were, well, insipid responses.

277 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 5:19:25am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Another good one is “Jet Boy Jet Girl”…..either the version by Elton Motello or The Damned. I don’t know if a song like that would be played on American radio.

College radio and a few “adventuresome” stations plus I used to see it on VH1 occaionally (the Damned’s version). No, I doubt anyone got it. If I were feeling mean, I’d send a copy to Brian Fischer… ;)

278 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 5:20:30am

re: #277 William Barnett-Lewis

College radio and a few “adventuresome” stations plus I used to see it on VH1 occaionally (the Damned’s version). No, I doubt anyone got it. If I were feeling mean, I’d send a copy to Brian Fischer… ;)

Bryan would fire off endless Tweets on that, probably not realizing it’s a pretty old song.

279 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 5:20:33am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

Most of the songs the Police are known for were about creeps and sickos:

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Video

Youtube Video

280 steve_davis  May 20, 2014 5:21:26am

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

any clue what they are singing?

“ah wooooh! werewolves of London….”

281 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:22:52am

re: #278 Dr Lizardo

Bryan would fire off endless Tweets on that, probably not realizing it’s a pretty old song.

What is the song about, gay sex with bears?

282 A Mom Anon  May 20, 2014 5:22:57am

I just witnessed two Blue Jays attacking and killing a young Robin while the parents tried like hell to fight to save it. The Jays actually carried the young bird(bigger than a hatchling, about half the size of the parents)off into the neighbors’ yard when I went outside to see if I could do anything (or pick up the dead bird before my dog found it). I’ve never seen that happen before and I pay attention to the birds and bugs around here. Yipes.

283 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 5:24:14am

re: #277 William Barnett-Lewis

College radio and a few “adventuresome” stations plus I used to see it on VH1 occaionally (the Damned’s version). No, I doubt anyone got it. If I were feeling mean, I’d send a copy to Brian Fischer… ;)

This. NSFW.

Youtube Video

Yowzer. Definitely not my taste in music, either lyrics or music.

284 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 5:24:16am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

What is the song about, gay sex with bears?

Young boy has affair with older guy who eventually dumps him for young girl. The chorus refers to oral sex.

285 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 5:25:14am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

What is the song about, gay sex with bears?

NSFW.

Youtube Video

There’s no explicit words in the song….but thematically, it’s pretty explicit. It early glam proto-punk, more or less.

286 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:25:53am

I’m at work, so no clicky linky.

287 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 5:27:47am

re: #282 A Mom Anon

I just witnessed two Blue Jays attacking and killing a young Robin while the parents tried like hell to fight to save it. The Jays actually carried the young bird(bigger than a hatchling, about half the size of the parents)off into the neighbors’ yard when I went outside to see if I could do anything (or pick up the dead bird before my dog found it). I’ve never seen that happen before and I pay attention to the birds and bugs around here. Yipes.

It’s a bird-eat-bird world out there, kiddo.

288 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 5:31:29am

Ukrainian tycoon Rinat Akhmetov confronts rebellion

bbc.com

“Steel magnate Rinat Akhmetov, saying “people are tired of living in fear and terror”, urged his tens of thousands of employees to lead the protests.

“A similar initiative last week led to ethnic Russian separatists losing control of the town of Mariupol.

“Meanwhile, Russia said its troops on Ukraine’s border were set to withdraw.”

Not that Russia hasn’t lied about “withdrawing its troops” on Ukraine’s border before. Hell, they even lied about them being there.

289 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 5:32:45am

Well, folks, off to learn how to make industrial hamburgers & say “would you like fries with that?” for 8 hours. Whee!

That said, I happily chose McD’s over Walfart. We must have standards in whom we allow to exploit us. I’d rather a small franchise owner get the under-paid value of my minimum wage labor than the Walton family.

BBL.

290 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 5:33:54am

re: #289 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, folks, off to learn how to make industrial hamburgers & say “would you like fries with that?” for 8 hours. Whee!

That said, I happily chose McD’s over Walfart. We must have standards in whom we allow to exploit us. I’d rather a small franchise owner get the under-paid value of my minimum wage labor than the Walton family.

BBL.

Are you full time or part time?

291 William Barnett-Lewis  May 20, 2014 5:34:26am

35 ~ 37 hours a week.

292 De Kolta Chair  May 20, 2014 5:36:04am

re: #246 Gus

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In that that photo, Pernicious J bears a striking resemblance to Mark Kay Place.

293 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 5:38:23am

re: #289 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, folks, off to learn how to make industrial hamburgers & say “would you like fries with that?” for 8 hours. Whee!

That said, I happily chose McD’s over Walfart. We must have standards in whom we allow to exploit us. I’d rather a small franchise owner get the under-paid value of my minimum wage labor than the Walton family.

BBL.

You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din. I worked concessions at two football games in college, and that was my last experience in the food service industry. I like cooking, but not for hordes of people who each want immediate service.

294 darthstar  May 20, 2014 5:39:02am

re: #292 De Kolta Chair

In that that photo, Pernicious J bears a striking resemblance to Mark Kay Place.

Or a young Ellen Degeneres.

295 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 20, 2014 5:39:18am

So tragic. NW Indiana: Boy, 4, dies after accidentally discharging gun (warning: autoplay video)

A Merrillville, Indiana, boy died Saturday after finding a gun in his parents’ bedroom.

According to the Merrillville Police Department, Cash Irby Jr., 4, took the gun from his parents’ bedroom and brought it to his room, where it went off and shot him in the head. Police found the child unresponsive and doctors pronounced him dead at Broadway Methodist Hospital South.

Gun was not in a gun-safe, loaded. Jeez.

296 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 5:45:15am

And now for something completely different: Syrian punk rock.

Youtube Video

297 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 5:55:24am

And for those who like music with a harder edge, I give you Aliaj - a heavy metal band from Iran.

Youtube Video

298 Justanotherhuman  May 20, 2014 5:59:26am

re: #285 Dr Lizardo

BTW, that song is supposed to have first been done in 1977. I was too old by that time to have any interest in punk; I thought it was boring since I had young teenagers with whom I had to deal with, like middle-aged men preying on them (believe me, I heard those stories more than once). Both of them tended to look younger than they were and slight in build. There actually was a shoe repair shop owner a few blocks from us who liked to give “head” to very young teen boys “with their permission” (as he said) for which he’d “gift” them with a pair of boots, which most of those kids, who were fairly poor, couldn’t afford. He was arrested for soliciting sex from underaged boys when the cops had enough evidence. Several blocks along that same road got a reputation as “chicken hawk row”. There was no “consensual sex” involved—all of the victims were underaged (12-16) and this creep took advantage of them. It’s called Hebephilia and there’s been a lot of concern over whether it’s a mental disorder or a “genuine” sexual preference, although not as much, it seems, as over their pubescent victims.

en.wikipedia.org

299 Flounder  May 20, 2014 6:00:43am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

That’s not heavy metal!
This is heavy metal. :)

Youtube Video

300 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 6:05:07am

Well that’s pretty intense for music during my wake up and first coffee. Awake now!

301 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:10:47am

re: #300 Rightwingconspirator

Oh you’re here! I have a jewelry question.

I have a 14K charm bracelet with a bunch of charms, but the little gold loops (findings?) that attach the charms to the bracelet links are missing. Do you know where I can find those gold loops?

302 GunstarGreen  May 20, 2014 6:15:06am

re: #298 Justanotherhuman

It’s both, honestly.

Some people are wired a little weirdly and have a preference for kids. Only disordered people take that and say, “Well, since I like it, it’s alright to touch kids”. Because normal people do not believe that touching kids is alright, mostly on account of the fact that they’re not sociopaths and they understands that kids aren’t ready for that and cannot consent.

303 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 6:16:12am

Shit. The Shield was my favorite TV show when it was on. This is a tragedy.

304 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 6:16:33am

re: #295 Rev_Arthur_Belling

So tragic. NW Indiana: Boy, 4, dies after accidentally discharging gun (warning: autoplay video)

Gun was not in a gun-safe, loaded. Jeez.

Can the parents be banned from having any more children since they don’t know how to properly protect the one they had?

305 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 6:16:42am

re: #299 Flounder

That’s not heavy metal!
This is heavy metal. :)

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Video

And here’s the Czech Republic’s Atari Terror:

NSFW! Really….it’s not. Which is why I’m hiding it in a spoiler tag. It has boobs. They’ve played it on Czech TV here unedited, because here, it’s really not a big deal - though some younger Americans are rather surprised by the occasional bit of nudity on Czech television.

Ya’ll been warned.

306 darthstar  May 20, 2014 6:17:22am

re: #303 NJDhockeyfan

Shit. The Shield was my favorite TV show when it was on. This is a tragedy.

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They’ll get another actor. The bigger tragedy here is that this man’s wife is dead and it looks like he killed her.

307 darthstar  May 20, 2014 6:18:19am
308 De Kolta Chair  May 20, 2014 6:18:56am

re: #294 darthstar

Or a young Ellen Degeneres.

Rewrite desk! Copy boy! No, make that a coffee boy!

Meant to say Mary Kaye Place.

309 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 6:19:14am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh you’re here! I have a jewelry question.

I have a 14K charm bracelet with a bunch of charms, but the little gold loops (findings?) that attach the charms to the bracelet links are missing. Do you know where I can find those gold loops?

Good Morning! What you need are 14kt split rings. They are made like key rings, so they hold fast without being soldered. You know, where you spin the little thing to wind the key in? There are findings vendors on 47th street. Myron Toback 25 W 47th St, Crown Findings 23 W 47th St. Or online… Rio Grande out of Albuquerque

310 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 6:23:52am
311 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:27:29am

re: #309 Rightwingconspirator

Good Morning! What you need are 14kt split rings. They are made like key rings, so they hold fast without being soldered. You know, where you spin the little thing to wind the key in? There are findings vendors on 47th street. Myron Toback 25 W 47th St, Crown Findings 23 W 47th St. Or online… Rio Grande out of Albuquerque

Thanks.
I got the bracelet & charms when I was a teenager. I haven’t worn it in years. I want to give it to my granddaughter for her birthday but need to reattach the charms.

I thought of buying her a Pandora bracelet but then I found this.

312 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 6:28:58am

re: #306 darthstar

They’ll get another actor. The bigger tragedy here is that this man’s wife is dead and it looks like he killed her.

No they won’t get another actor because the series is over. Of course it’s a tragedy his wife is dead.

313 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 6:28:59am

re: #305 Dr Lizardo

And here’s the Czech Republic’s Atari Terror:

NSFW! Really….it’s not. Which is why I’m hiding it in a spoiler tag. It has boobs. They’ve played it on Czech TV here unedited, because here, it’s really not a big deal - though some younger Americans are rather surprised by the occasional bit of nudity on Czech television.

Ya’ll been warned.

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I remember the first time I saw a European commercial for soap or shampoo or something on TV. I was in high school, sitting with my host family, and my jaw dropped (I suppose) when the woman in the commercial showed her boobs on TV … and no one else in the room paid the slightest attention to it, because people are usually naked when they shower. American TV commercials were never that frank.

Euro TV shows also freely admit that couples, having had sex, generally remain unclothed for the rest of the night. American (broadcast) TV couples apparently put their underwear back on, if in fact it ever came off.

314 De Kolta Chair  May 20, 2014 6:30:00am

re: #256 Gus

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If the NY Times wants to entice the yuts, they should change that to “20 Reasons Why Ike Wouldn’t Celebrate the D-Day Anniversary.”

315 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 6:32:29am

re: #313 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

I remember the first time I saw a European commercial for soap or shampoo or something on TV. I was in high school, sitting with my host family, and my jaw dropped (I suppose) when the woman in the commercial showed her boobs on TV … and no one else in the room paid the slightest attention to it, because people are usually naked when they shower. American TV commercials were never that frank.

Euro TV shows also freely admit that couples, having had sex, generally remain unclothed for the rest of the night. American (broadcast) TV couples apparently put their underwear back on, if in fact it ever came off.

LOL. The impression my ex-wife had from watching American TV was that we all have sex with our underwear on! She figured we were all hopeless prudes….which led her to ask, “How did you turn out be such a deviant?!”

316 De Kolta Chair  May 20, 2014 6:37:15am

re: #310 Killgore Trout

Why Putin Really Will Pull Back

From Igor Bunin’s Center for Political Technologies English web site (cpt.ru):

Center for Political Technologies (CPT) is one of the oldest independent think-tanks in Russia […]

Selected Clients
Government

Administration of the President of Russian Federation
Ministry of Economic Development and Trade of Russian Federation
Ministry of Information Technologies and Communications of Russian Federation
Federal Statistics Service of Russian Federation
Staff of the Cabinet of Ministers of Russian Federation
Security Council of Russian Federation

317 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 6:38:44am

PR move, or did someone just wake up after a very long sleep?

(The band Spirit is pursuing legal action against Led Zeppelin, claiming Zeppelin’s most iconic song lifted its opening from Spirit’s tune, “Taurus.”)

nbcnews.com

318 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 6:40:07am

re: #315 Dr Lizardo

LOL. The impression my ex-wife had from watching American TV was that we all have sex with our underwear on! She figured we were all hopeless prudes….which led her to ask, “How did you turn out be such a deviant?!”

Well, her generalization would apply to a certain percentage of the US population, given the outrage about the occasional nip slip on network TV.

319 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 6:41:32am

re: #311 Pie-onist Overlord

Good choice, and very kind of you. Keeping it in the family is the best. Charms are popular again, first time in a very long time.

320 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 6:43:02am

re: #319 Rightwingconspirator

Good choice, and very kind of you. Keeping it in the family is the best. Charms are popular again, first time in a very long time.

Since they live in NY and I don’t, maybe I will give her the bracelet and charms and she can take it to 47th St and they attach the charms.

321 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 6:47:24am

re: #316 De Kolta Chair

From Igor Bunin’s Center for Political Technologies English web site (cpt.ru):

Center for Political Technologies (CPT) is one of the oldest independent think-tanks in Russia […]

Selected Clients
Government

Administration of the President of Russian Federation
Ministry of Economic Development and Trade of Russian Federation
Ministry of Information Technologies and Communications of Russian Federation
Federal Statistics Service of Russian Federation
Staff of the Cabinet of Ministers of Russian Federation
Security Council of Russian Federation

Yeah, I’m doubtful Putin is going to withdraw troops anytime soon. There’s business to be done.

322 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 6:48:39am

re: #317 Feline Fearless Leader

PR move, or did someone just wake up after a very long sleep?

(The band Spirit is pursuing legal action against Led Zeppelin, claiming Zeppelin’s most iconic song lifted its opening from Spirit’s tune, “Taurus.”)

nbcnews.com

Many of Zeplin’s hits were stolen songs. I assumed they quietly settled these cases long ago.

323 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 6:49:49am
324 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 6:54:11am
325 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 6:56:57am
326 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 7:05:38am

Libyan lawmakers to meet in secret amid standoff

Libya’s Islamist-led parliament is pushing ahead with holding a vote of confidence Tuesday to approve a disputed new prime minister in a session held in undisclosed location Tuesday, defying demands by a renegade general that the legislature disband.
The vote could escalate one of Libya’s worst crises since the ouster and death of dictator Moammar Gadhafi in 2011. Powerful militias allied to the general, Khalifa Hifter, stormed parliament earlier this week and unilaterally declared it suspended, part of a campaign that Hifter says is aimed at breaking the power of Islamic extremists in the country.
….
In Benghazi, the al-Qaida-inspired militant group Ansar al-Shariah vowed in a statement to battle Hifter’s forces, denouncing them as “advocates of sedition and corruption that we must confront and expel” because they are waging war against Islamic law.

“The choice of confrontation has become inevitable,” it said.

328 darthstar  May 20, 2014 7:13:05am
329 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 7:14:17am

Oldest currently living Feline Overlord is 24.

nbcnews.com

330 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 7:14:57am

re: #328 darthstar

They’ve realized that tofu does not fear bullets.
/

331 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 7:15:47am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

They’ve realized that tofu does not fear bullets.
/

Arugula sneers at AK-47s

332 darthstar  May 20, 2014 7:15:58am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

They’ve realized that tofu does not fear bullets.
/

Could also be an allergy to china.

333 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 7:16:10am
334 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 7:16:59am

re: #325 NJDhockeyfan

Never get in to a land war in Asia. /Vizzini

335 darthstar  May 20, 2014 7:17:06am

re: #331 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Arugula sneers at AK-47s

I will give up my amuse bouche when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers…or after this sip, as it’s only one.

336 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 7:20:43am

re: #334 lawhawk

Never get in to a land war in Asia. /Vizzini

Unless you’re the mongols, then, y’know, have at it.

337 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 7:25:15am

re: #334 lawhawk

Never get in to a land war in Asia. /Vizzini

Been there, done that.

338 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 7:26:53am
339 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 7:27:11am

re: #336 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Unless you’re the mongols, then, y’know, have at it.

If they ever work out grass-fueled armor they might be back. Which would make neither China nor Russia very happy.

340 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 7:28:50am

re: #138 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Maybe it’s just me, but if I owned a restaurant, the only open-carry patrons I’d want would be cops. Everyone else could just leave their weapons at home, or go eat somewhere else. There is no need in a civilized society for civilians to carry firearms while doing their everyday business.

A couple of years ago, on another political forum I used to participate in, someone started a thread asking the question, “If you walked into a bar, would you prefer to carry your gun openly or concealed?”

My reply? “I’m so glad I live in a place where walking into a bar doesn’t result in an automatic dick swinging contest.”

341 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 7:29:59am

re: #339 Feline Fearless Leader

If they ever work out grass-fueled armor they might be back. Which would make neither China nor Russia very happy.

The Chinese try very hard to gloss over the Mongol invasion and occupation. It interferes with the concept of 5,000 years of unbroken Chinese history.

See also, the Manchus.

342 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 7:31:42am

re: #322 Killgore Trout

Many of Zeplin’s hits were stolen songs. I assumed they quietly settled these cases long ago.

I just put a YouTube of some of the claims of borrowing in the pages article about Spirit suing Zep in Randy California’s name.

By the way, are you familiar with Zep’s management? I’m thinking that had something to do with claims not being settled. Peter Grant was a class one-A, son-of-a-bitch, hard-knocking, take-no-prisoners kind of guy. He probably scared the beejesus out of anyone claiming anything.

343 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 7:34:01am
344 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 7:35:30am

re: #342 ObserverArt

I just put a YouTube of some of the claims of borrowing in the pages article about Spirit suing Zep in Randy California’s name.

By the way, are you familiar with Zep’s management? I’m thinking that had something to do with claims not being settled. Peter Grant was a class one-A, son-of-a-bitch, hard-knocking, take-no-prisoners kind of guy. He probably scared the beejesus out of anyone claiming anything.

I always assumed it was that Zeplin was so rich and record companies were making so much money that this stuff was handled quietly. I still like Zeplin but for me it does limit their legacy having ripped off so much music. Everybody gets hit with plagiarism claims sometimes but I think Zeplin was clearly stealing songs.

345 kirkspencer  May 20, 2014 7:36:19am

re: #299 Flounder

That’s not heavy metal!
This is heavy metal. :)

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No, sorry, THIS is heavy metal. ;)

Youtube Video

346 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 7:41:07am

re: #343 NJDhockeyfan

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Is it ok to take drugs OR go whoring?

RBS

347 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 7:41:50am

re: #299 Flounder

That’s not heavy metal!
This is heavy metal. :)

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Babymetal
Youtube Video

348 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 7:43:58am

re: #214 Gus

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An FW 190. Damn, that’s a nice aircraft.

349 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 7:44:04am

re: #347 Killgore Trout

Babymetal
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Geriatric Metal…

RBS

350 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 7:44:13am

re: #344 Killgore Trout

I always assumed it was that Zeplin was so rich and record companies were making so much money that this stuff was handled quietly. I still like Zeplin but for me it does limit their legacy having ripped off so much music. Everybody gets hit with plagiarism claims sometimes but I think Zeplin was clearly stealing songs.

Do some reading on their manager Peter Grant and how he handled record companies. He brought them down to his level and told them what they were going to do for Zepplin. Not the other way around. Zepplin made the money, record companies were just glad to have a taste. And then Zepplin made their own label.

351 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 7:44:43am

re: #342 ObserverArt

I just put a YouTube of some of the claims of borrowing in the pages article about Spirit suing Zep in Randy California’s name.

By the way, are you familiar with Zep’s management? I’m thinking that had something to do with claims not being settled. Peter Grant was a class one-A, son-of-a-bitch, hard-knocking, take-no-prisoners kind of guy. He probably scared the beejesus out of anyone claiming anything.

Just as he is portrayed in “The Song Remains The Same”.

352 Internet Tough Guy  May 20, 2014 7:46:01am

re: #349 RealityBasedSteve

Can’t unsee……

353 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 7:47:03am

re: #347 Killgore Trout

Babymetal
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Video

Shonen Knife

Youtube Video

354 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 7:47:04am

re: #350 ObserverArt

Zepplin were one of the first to get a piece of the gate rather than a flat fee for performances, too.

355 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 7:47:12am

re: #241 Gus

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Why do they think that is news? Weapons are sold by every nation that manufactures them to any nation with the money to buy.

Weapons are no longer concerned with national security. They are a business and business only cares about profit.

356 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 7:47:35am

re: #342 ObserverArt

I just put a YouTube of some of the claims of borrowing in the pages article about Spirit suing Zep in Randy California’s name.

By the way, are you familiar with Zep’s management? I’m thinking that had something to do with claims not being settled. Peter Grant was a class one-A, son-of-a-bitch, hard-knocking, take-no-prisoners kind of guy. He probably scared the beejesus out of anyone claiming anything.

Grant wasn’t afraid of anyone. He scared away some mob guys wanting money in order to play in, I think Boston when they were on tour.

Peter Grant

357 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 7:50:11am

re: #256 Gus

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We really could use another Ike these days.

358 Romantic Heretic  May 20, 2014 7:54:14am

re: #282 A Mom Anon

I just witnessed two Blue Jays attacking and killing a young Robin while the parents tried like hell to fight to save it. The Jays actually carried the young bird(bigger than a hatchling, about half the size of the parents)off into the neighbors’ yard when I went outside to see if I could do anything (or pick up the dead bird before my dog found it). I’ve never seen that happen before and I pay attention to the birds and bugs around here. Yipes.

That’s about right. Jays are almost as big assholes as crows.

359 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 7:55:32am
360 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 7:55:52am

re: #354 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Zepplin were one of the first to get a piece of the gate rather than a flat fee for performances, too.

Yep, all due to Grant knowing they were in demand, and so demand he did. He changed the way things were done.

361 Killgore Trout  May 20, 2014 7:56:15am

re: #353 Dr Lizardo

Shonen Knife

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lol, loves it.

362 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 7:56:38am

MOAR WINGNUT TEARZ!!

BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

Author and conservative filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza plead guilty this morning to one count on federal charges detailed in an indictment accusing him of violating campaign finance laws and making false statements. D’Souza admitted in front of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, that he did in fact ask two people to make contributions in their name and later reimbursed them, knowing it was not proper under the law. D’Souza submitted a plea deal on May 19. Judge Richard Berman accepted his guilty plea today and set a sentencing date for September 23, 2014. The government argued attorneys would be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the defendant, D’Souza, is guilty. There will be no trial by jury in this case.

“Guilty your honor,” D’Souza said, adding that he deeply regrets his actions.

“The plea is now accepted and Mr. D’Souza is now guilty under the indictment,” Berman replied.

By entering a guilty plea, D’Souza waived his right to appeal and his right to sentence modification or reduction. He faces a maximum of two years in prison, three years supervised release and a $250,000 fine. There is no parole in the federal system. His right to vote, right to hold public office, right to possess a firearm and right to sit on a jury have been revoked.

townhall.com

363 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 7:58:48am
BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

Entrapment!! Obama thugs! RESTART Op American Spring RESTART and unleash Revolution!!! Free Dinesh!!!

364 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 7:59:51am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

MOAR WINGNUT TEARZ!!

BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

townhall.com

But what about the millions that Obama got in contrabutions from his web site that came from foreign countries like Saudi Arabia? //true fact ‘cuz I’ve read it a lot

365 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 8:00:41am

“BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law”

Monee=FReeSpeech!!! CitizensUnited!!! Repeal unjust campaign finance laws!!!

366 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:01:32am

re: #363 Bulworth

BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

But, he and his lawyer ensured us that he did nothing wrong and that this was just Obama seeking revenge. What gives?

////

367 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 8:01:38am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

And just 2 months ago, he was proclaiming his innocence and that this was a hunt to go after people who didn’t like the President (as claimed by both D’Souza and his lawyer Ben Brafman).

368 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 8:02:23am

Dr.Matt posted:

But, he and his lawyer ensured us that he did nothing wrong and that this was just Obama seeking revenge. What gives?

Dinesh and RWNJ answer to a higher law….//

369 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 8:02:37am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

MOAR WINGNUT TEARZ!!

BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

townhall.com

It couldn’t have happened to a bigger political mud throwing dirt bag. I hope he does see some time. It would do him good.

370 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 8:03:33am

re: #367 lawhawk

And just 2 months ago, he was proclaiming his innocence and that this was a hunt to go after people who didn’t like the President (as claimed by both D’Souza and his lawyer Ben Brafman).

D’Souza is a clown…..he broke the law. That he plead guilty leads me to think there was some absolute, airtight evidence against him.

371 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 8:05:05am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

His right to vote, right to hold public office, right to possess a firearm and right to sit on a jury have been revoked.

D’Souza was an utter blockhead, to risk losing these rights just for campaign contributions. I weep no tears for him.

Of course, now he has even more fodder for his overblown treatises on what is wrong with America.

372 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 8:07:16am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

MOAR WINGNUT TEARZ!!

BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

townhall.com

This is obviously an anti-colonial conspiracy.

373 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 8:07:23am

re: #371 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

D’Souza was an utter blockhead, to risk losing these rights just for campaign contributions. I weep no tears for him.

Of course, now he has even more fodder for his overblown treatises on what is wrong with America.

Not to mention a heaping plate full of martyr cookies to enjoy.

374 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 8:08:04am

re: #373 Dr Lizardo

Not to mention a heaping plate full of martyr cookies to enjoy.

Are those the kind with the holes in the middle?

375 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 8:08:11am

Yeah not the end of D’Sousa in the slightest. Ollie North did far worse than what he did and he’s still a right wing hero.

376 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 8:08:13am

re: #371 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

D’Souza was an utter blockhead, to risk losing these rights just for campaign contributions. I weep no tears for him.

Of course, now he has even more fodder for his overblown treatises on what is wrong with America.

HE is what is wrong with America. He can go ahead and admit that too. He and others like him.

377 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 8:08:59am

Happy Warrior posted:

This is obviously an anti-colonial conspiracy.

You can only really understand our totally tyranical unjust campaign laws TRUTH Confirmed by understanding anti-colonial Kenyaism. //

378 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:11:00am
379 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 8:11:35am

re: #375 HappyWarrior

Yeah not the end of D’Sousa in the slightest. Ollie North did far worse than what he did and he’s still a right wing hero.

Ollie had that uniform, and that seems to get him some excuses, such as being loyal to his Commander-in-Chief.

Anymore, it seems the whole Iran-Contra thing has been excused away. I guess there is no time for American conservatives and wing-nutters to remember about a real scandal when you have to work so hard to make scandals out of…(wait for it)

BENGHAZI. BENGHAZI. BENGHAZI.

380 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 8:13:22am

re: #379 ObserverArt

Ollie had that uniform, and that seems to get him some excuses, such as being loyal to his Commander-in-Chief.

Anymore, it seems the whole Iran-Contra thing has been excused away. I guess there is no time for American conservatives and wing-nutters to remember about a real scandal when you have to work so hard to make scandals out of…(wait for it)

BENGHAZI. BENGHAZI. BENGHAZI.

Ah good point about North’s military background.

381 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 8:14:32am

re: #376 ObserverArt

HE is what is wrong with America. He can go ahead and admit that too. He and others like him.

But that would require self-examination and a certain amount of humility, traits which he and others like him lack. They seem only to find humility on a case-by-case basis, and then only when caught with their pants down. Once the transgression is forgotten, they’re back to the same old “I’m right, because God and country” shit.

And their admirers let them get away with it, over and over again.

382 GunstarGreen  May 20, 2014 8:15:11am

Kind of makes me think that I should go to the local video stores, find copies of D’souza’s slop, and slap “By Convicted Felon” stickers above his name.

383 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 8:16:50am

re: #381 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

But that would require self-examination and a certain amount of humility, traits which he and others like him lack. They seem only to find humility on a case-by-case basis, and then only when caught with their pants down. Once the transgression is forgotten, they’re back to the same old “I’m right, because God and country” shit.

And their admirers let them get away with it, over and over again.

Okay…so it is HIM and all of THEM that are what is wrong with America.

: )

384 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 8:18:45am

re: #381 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

But that would require self-examination and a certain amount of humility, traits which he and others like him lack. They seem only to find humility on a case-by-case basis, and then only when caught with their pants down. Once the transgression is forgotten, they’re back to the same old “I’m right, because God and country” shit.

And their admirers let them get away with it, over and over again.

It probably will increase his book sales and invitations to talk on CNN.

385 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 8:18:54am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

The plea deal probably came after his motion was denied last week to get the charges dropped. His lawyer probably began working up a plea deal minutes after the motion was denied in order to avoid an even longer sentence that was possible (5 years on the false statements charge).

It saves the prosecutors time and effort of trying to prove this in court, and D’Souza gets certainty of not facing the max sentence.

386 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:19:41am

Drudge Deletes All His Tweets, Leaves One Mysterious Clue

I’m sure Alex Jones has an explanation. FYI, here’s the tweet he left standing:

In this manic Digital Age… It’s vital… To clear your mind… Constantly…
— MATT DRUDGE (@DRUDGE) May 18, 2014

387 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 8:20:13am

re: #385 lawhawk

The plea deal probably came after his motion was denied last week to get the charges dropped. His lawyer probably began working up a plea deal minutes after the motion was denied in order to avoid an even longer sentence that was possible (5 years on the false statements charge).

It saves the prosecutors time and effort of trying to prove this in court, and D’Souza gets certainty of not facing the max sentence.

Sounds about right. He might be still looking at a max of 2 years.

388 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 8:20:32am

In two years’ time, expect the following bump “Next on Fox News, convicted felon persecuted right wing hero, Dinesh D’Souza.”

389 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 8:22:18am

re: #386 Dr. Matt

Drudge Deletes All His Tweets, Leaves One Mysterious Clue

I’m sure Alex Jones has an explanation. FYI, here’s the tweet he left standing:

They had to do a reformat before installing Drudge 3.0

390 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 8:22:26am

re: #386 Dr. Matt

Drudge Deletes All His Tweets, Leaves One Mysterious Clue

I’m sure Alex Jones has an explanation. FYI, here’s the tweet he left standing:

Of course Alex Jones has an explanation, and it goes like HAARPCHEMTRAILSWEATHERMACHINEKENYANBIRTHCERTIFICATE9/11WASANINSIDEJOBFEMADEATHCAMPSANDGUILLOTINESMARTIALLAWIÄIÄCHTHULUFH’TAGN!!

391 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:22:39am

re: #388 lawhawk

In two years’ time, expect the following bump “Next on Fox News, convicted felon persecuted right wing hero, Dinesh D’Souza.”

What are the odds that he ends up on Hannity tonight so Dinesh pretend to be the victim and Hannity can attempt to cleanse his criminal record?

392 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 8:22:58am

re: #383 ObserverArt

Okay…so it is HIM and all of THEM that are what is wrong with America.

: )

To forgive is a noble act, but I would also expect the other person to stop doing whatever it is I forgave him for. I would hope D’Souza spends his term in the pen reflecting on his actions and attitudes, and how they landed him in the pokey. Not holding my breath, though.

393 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 8:24:12am

re: #391 Dr. Matt

What are the odds that he ends up on Hannity tonight so Dinesh pretend to be the victim and Hannity can attempt to cleanse his criminal record?

Pretty good I say.

394 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 8:26:18am

WTFITS

395 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 8:26:58am

Well, well. Found another indication that most gun owners have far more sense than some of them would make you think, like that stupid looking couple at the restaurant. An unscientific poll taken at a pro gun/pro guns for self defense advocacy site (gunssavelines dot net) If the idiots were not so loud and deliberately baiting the pro gun control advocates, creating an impression they are far more numerous than they really are I’d not bother to post this.

Now ordinarily I would not count on anything from an advocacy site like that but it’s a poll they did about long gun open carry. To their credit when they run self defense stories they include local MSM links.

In the last 24 hours many Second Amendment writers, advocates, and legal minds have voiced their concern that openly carried rifles in private businesses are not the way to advance gun rights, and only result in more businesses taking a stand on the gun issue.

What do you think? Let us know in the poll below. Note, results are not scientific and may not update in real time.

82.78% including my vote that this hurts the gun rights effort. 12.91% Think it helps and the rest unsure. I will speculate that the nature of the site would have a “helps” bias but no way to back that up really. I chose not to link to avoid appearing to endorse or suggest the site per se.

396 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 8:27:15am

re: #394 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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So he doubles as an anti-vaxxer. Whoulda thought.

397 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 8:28:28am

Good grief… another racist politician exposed. This one doesn’t want to resign.

Nassau Dems, civic activists call on Birnbaum to resign

Civic activists joined Nassau Democrats Monday as they kept pressuring a Democratic county legislator to resign over accusations that she made racially derogatory comments.

…Birnbaum, a former Town of North Hempstead intergovernmental director, has apologized and called her comments “insensitive.” But she has refused to resign from her elected post, which pays $39,500 a year.

…Former Nassau Legis. Robert Troiano, a North Hempstead official, read an account of Birnbaum’s remarks, which he said came from a “collective recollection” of people who heard them directly. She was speaking to staff attorneys and was overheard by an aide to Legis. Siela Bynoe (D-Westbury).

“She said, ‘Why would anyone want to go there?’ Then … she added, ‘It’s a bad neighborhood,’ and ‘It’s a ghetto’ and … ‘It’s full of those black people,’ ” Troiano said Monday.

“She then … whispered, ‘Come on, who from the rest of the town is going to go there? After all, mostly black people live there,’ ” Troiano continued. “She later added, ‘All they want to do is play basketball.’ “

Asked about Troiano’s account, Birnbaum said, “Those are not my words.” She added, “I did not use ‘ghetto.’ “

398 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:29:46am

It’s only a matter of time before GG starts questioning Obama’s birth certificate.

399 b.d.  May 20, 2014 8:31:31am

re: #394 Pie-onist Overlord

That pos is lying, the vaccines were real and the kids got vaccinated.

400 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:32:06am

This is an automatic Pollen and Mold Alert from the National Allergy Bureau, a service of the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology.
It’s warmer and sunny, but they say it may be scary soon. The birds are, again, ominously quiet. That, combined with the allergy report makes unsure of what I can reasonably accomplish today.

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 05/20/2014

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Pollen & Mold Summary
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Trees: High Concentration
Weeds: High Concentration
Grass: High Concentration
Mold: Moderate Concentration

401 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 8:32:34am

re: #394 Pie-onist Overlord

Greenwald doesn’t like the fact that the CIA used the polio vaccination program as a cover to get DNA that it apparently helped use to track down OBL in Pakistan. The CIA now promises not to do that again, in the interests of public health (because the backlash has undermined the efforts to eradicate polio in Pakistan, which is one of the few places in the world where it’s still prevalent).

The polio vaccination program was vaccinating people (a truly worthy goal) - but it was also using the injectors to pick up the DNA, and that was funneled into a CIA database.

402 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 8:33:55am

re: #394 Pie-onist Overlord

403 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:34:06am

re: #401 lawhawk

In summary, GG is always unhappy about everything.

404 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 8:35:18am

re: #397 NJDhockeyfan

Unless LI has really deteriorated since I was last there 20 years ago, I can’t recall any community there that could be categorized as a “ghetto.” I note that Birnbaum is from Great Neck, one of the whiter areas of the Island. She must not get out very much from her little suburban enclave.

405 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 8:37:48am

re: #404 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Unless LI has really deteriorated since I was last there 20 years ago, I can’t recall any community there that could be categorized as a “ghetto.” I note that Birnbaum is from Great Neck, one of the whiter areas of the Island. She must not get out very much from her little suburban enclave.

Hey, there are lots of black people living over there. It must be a ghetto!
//

406 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:40:02am
ABOUT THE DOCUMENTARY

The feature-length documentary God Loves Uganda is a powerful exploration of the evangelical campaign to change African culture with values imported from America’s Christian Right.

The film follows American and Ugandan religious leaders fighting “sexual immorality” and missionaries trying to convince Ugandans to follow Biblical law.

God Loves Uganda premiered at the Sundance Film Festival on January 18th, 2013 and has screened at over 50 American and international film festivals, winning numerous awards. The film serves as a catalyst for change, through our upcoming international screening tour and social action campaign.

407 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 8:44:42am

re: #406 FemNaziBitch

It sounds like it’s in the same vein as Jesus Camp: let the subjects speak for themselves and let the viewer decide how wacked out they are.

408 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:47:21am

re: #407 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

It sounds like it’s in the same vein as Jesus Camp: let the subjects speak for themselves and let the viewer decide how wacked out they are.

Isn’t that what they call Journalism?

:0

409 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 8:48:00am
410 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 8:48:47am

lawhawk, your thoughts on that he’ll actually serve any jail time?

411 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:53:34am

Yes? No?

412 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 8:54:12am

re: #410 Dr. Matt

The prosecutor will probably recommend something, maybe give a range of 6 months to a year (probably the year because it is a felony), and that will be accepted by the judge and D’Souza. That plus the fines/penalties.

The judge will probably accept those kinds of terms.

413 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 8:57:45am
414 wheat-dogghazi  May 20, 2014 9:00:35am

Kentucky primaries are today. Any news yet from that neck of the woods?

415 b_sharp  May 20, 2014 9:02:01am

re: #394 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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I don’t see in there where the vaccines weren’t real, only that the doctor used DNA collected during the program.

I disagree with using a vaccination program for anything but vaccinations, it poisons important health programs but the implication Pernicious G is putting out there is that the vaccinations were not real.

It would be nice if that information was available without all the hype.

416 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:02:09am
417 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 9:03:04am

re: #413 FemNaziBitch

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What??? You can no longer put the phone on vibrate???

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418 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 9:04:35am

re: #412 lawhawk

The prosecutor will probably recommend something, maybe give a range of 6 months to a year (probably the year because it is a felony), and that will be accepted by the judge and D’Souza. That plus the fines/penalties.

The judge will probably accept those kinds of terms.

I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say no jail time, just probation and fines.

419 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 9:05:29am
420 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:07:07am

Exclusive: U.S. Can’t Track All of the American Jihadists Home From Syria

Western intelligence services have been warning that European and American jihadists have been flocking to Syria to fight. But they’ve been reluctant to say how many Americans have joined the extremist forces there—until now. The latest U.S. intelligence estimates say that more than 100 Americans have joined the jihad in Syria to fight alongside Sunni terrorists there.

Senior American intelligence officials tell The Daily Beast that they believe between six and 12 Americans who have gone to Syria to fight Assad have now returned to America. “We know where some are,” one senior U.S. intelligence official told The Daily Beast. “The concern is the scale of the problem we are dealing with.”

I guess knowing were some are is better than none.

421 Mattand  May 20, 2014 9:14:56am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

MOAR WINGNUT TEARZ!!

BREAKING: Dinesh D’Souza Pleads Guilty to Violating Campaign Finance Law

townhall.com

HAW HAW!

422 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 9:16:09am
423 allegro  May 20, 2014 9:16:10am

re: #413 FemNaziBitch

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Hmmm… I thought that’s what the vibrate setting was for. :D

424 Mattand  May 20, 2014 9:16:36am

re: #397 NJDhockeyfan

Good grief… another racist politician exposed. This one doesn’t want to resign.

Nassau Dems, civic activists call on Birnbaum to resign

Well, that’s one confirmed racist Democrat vs who-can-count-that-high number of Republicans.

The Balance Fairy is most pleased…

425 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:18:08am

Outrage!

Lib website is refusing to let SEIU bring in a union. SEIU Local 500 has posted a petition to help them change their mind:

Tell Media Matters to Stop Opposing a Union for their Employees!

Employees at Media Matters have been organizing to form a union and join SEIU Local 500, but Media Matters executives have been fighting it every step of the way - even though they claim to pro-union!

They advocate for card check and pro-union and pro-workplace democracy policies for everyone else, but oppose it inside their own office.

Click here to sign a petition telling them to cut it out and “walk the walk” when it comes to being pro-union.

CLICK HERE TO SIGN THE PETITION

426 allegro  May 20, 2014 9:18:48am

re: #423 allegro

Hmmm… I thought that’s what the vibrate setting was for. :D

Oops, I see OA got there first.

427 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 9:20:07am

re: #419 Sergey Romanov

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Video

Sparks!!!

Thanks Sergey…it’s been a long long time since I came across anyone mention Sparks. I always loved their sense of humor and the tunes were pretty campy to fit the lyrics. Rock-cabaret with a Euro bent. Good stuff.

428 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 9:20:54am

re: #423 allegro

Hmmm… I thought that’s what the vibrate setting was for. :D

Ha…I beat you with #417!

429 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:24:24am

re: #424 Mattand

Well, that’s one confirmed racist Democrat vs who-can-count-that-high number of Republicans.

The Balance Fairy is most pleased…

Notice I didn’t label the politician as a Dem or Rep. As far as I’m concerned a racist is a racist and if they are caught they should be exposed. I’m not keeping score.

430 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 9:24:30am

PIE CHART FAIL
Which country is missing from the legend?

431 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 9:24:35am

re: #401 lawhawk

Greenwald doesn’t like the fact that the CIA used the polio vaccination program as a cover to get DNA that it apparently helped use to track down OBL in Pakistan. The CIA now promises not to do that again, in the interests of public health (because the backlash has undermined the efforts to eradicate polio in Pakistan, which is one of the few places in the world where it’s still prevalent).

The polio vaccination program was vaccinating people (a truly worthy goal) - but it was also using the injectors to pick up the DNA, and that was funneled into a CIA database.

It was not smart to use a vaccination program this way - that much is definitely true. But it would be nice if people also put the largest share of the blame for the backlash on the Taliban cavemen, who started murdering health workers in response.

It’s not a rational response to this revelation, and there’s more than a hint of condescension in the way people seem to hold the Taliban blameless for their violent behavior.

432 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:26:39am

re: #417 ObserverArt

What??? You can no longer put the phone on vibrate???

/// : )

Guess not —NSA and all.

433 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 9:26:45am

re: #429 NJDhockeyfan

Notice I didn’t label the politician as a Dem or Rep. As far as I’m concerned a racist is a racist and if they are caught they should be exposed. I’m not keeping score.

You don’t care about which party is more racist and has more racist policies?

434 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:27:44am

re: #430 Pie-onist Overlord

PIE CHART FAIL
Which country is missing from the legend?

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England?

435 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:28:16am

re: #434 FemNaziBitch

England?

no, no, Canada!

436 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 9:29:07am

re: #430 Pie-onist Overlord

PIE CHART FAIL
Which country is missing from the legend?

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Brazil.

437 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:29:35am

re: #433 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You don’t care about which party is more racist and has more racist policies?

Oh, for fucks sake. I don’t like racists and I don’t label either party a racist party. Both partys have their fair share of racists but I don’t keep a scorecard. I guess you do.

438 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:31:05am
439 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 9:31:21am

re: #436 ObserverArt

Brazil.

Tuvalu?
Nunavut?

440 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:31:43am

You can’t put handcuffs on the Invisible Hand of the Market
Comedy Central Video

441 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 9:32:27am

re: #434 FemNaziBitch

England?

The Country of Africa is missing!

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442 gwangung  May 20, 2014 9:33:55am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Oh, for fucks sake. I don’t like racists and I don’t label either party a racist party. Both partys have their fair share of racists but I don’t keep a scorecard. I guess you do.

I think you’re in a privileged position to be able to do that.

If you’re a head honcho in the Republican party, though, I would think you do.

443 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 9:34:07am

re: #427 ObserverArt

Love’em :)

444 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 9:34:12am

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Oh, for fucks sake. I don’t like racists and I don’t label either party a racist party. Both partys have their fair share of racists but I don’t keep a scorecard. I guess you do.

That wasn’t my question, though. I asked if you cared which party is more racist and has more racist policies.

There’s a lot of ways to look at this, but in the recent past, the GOP attempts at voter suppression against blacks, anti-immigrant rhetoric, ‘food stamp president’, Romney endorsing birtherism, etc., the GOP has both more racist politics and racist policies.

Do you disagree, and if so, why?

445 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:34:40am
446 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 9:35:22am

re: #438 FemNaziBitch

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These clowns must have some ‘Special Edition’ Qur’an I’m quite unaware of. Last time I checked the rules of war in Islamic jurisprudence, that sort of thing is forbidden. As are a lot of the things these groups do.

447 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:36:50am

re: #430 Pie-onist Overlord

PIE CHART FAIL
Which country is missing from the legend?

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According to The Intercept stylebook, the US is the only problem in the world.

448 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:37:23am

re: #446 Dr Lizardo

These clowns must have some ‘Special Edition’ Qur’an I’m quite unaware of. Last time I checked the rules of war in Islamic jurisprudence, that sort of thing is forbidden. As are a lot of the things these groups do.

Yeah, I would think that firing on children is universally verboten. Just shows how far over line this particular group of whackos have travelled.

449 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 9:37:44am

A fellow lizard has taken me to task on Teh Twitters over this meme.
Is it lame?

450 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:40:16am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

Inconclusive. The 30% increase was probably driven by inflation. Raising the wage might increase prices slightly, so I’d say that graphic doesn’t tell the whole story.

451 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:41:23am

re: #444 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That wasn’t my question, though. I asked if you cared which party is more racist and has more racist policies.

No, I look at the individuals. There are plenty of Dems who get caught in racist rants.

There’s a lot of ways to look at this, but in the recent past, the GOP attempts at voter suppression against blacks, anti-immigrant rhetoric, ‘food stamp president’, Romney endorsing birtherism, etc., the GOP has both more racist politics and racist policies.

Do you disagree, and if so, why?

If you paid attention in the past you would know I don’t vote down party lines. I look at who is running and decide who will serve best for me. I have a feeling you vote strictly for one party only.

452 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:41:38am

Taking a slight increase in burger prices is a good tradeoff for generating more economic activity by raising the minimum wage, IMO.

453 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 9:42:03am

re: #431 Charles Johnson

… there’s more than a hint of condescension in the way people seem to hold the Taliban blameless for their violent behavior.

That has bothered me from way back, from the anti Afghan war/nation building crowd. Every mistake, every incident about our guys writ large, and the Taliban gets distant kinda “Oh yeah them too” criticism.

Case(s) in point-Civilian casualties in drone strikes even deep in bad guy land.

454 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 9:42:03am

re: #427 ObserverArt

This one is so trashy in its synthpop glory, that it’s actually great ;)

Youtube Video

455 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 9:43:22am
456 lawhawk  May 20, 2014 9:43:57am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

Several factors go into higher prices, including inflation, state-based increases in minimum wages, higher capital costs, higher raw materials costs (droughts reducing herd sizes and increasing prices for a pound of beef, etc.), higher executive pay, and not all can be attributed to line-worker pay.

It would take a far greater analysis than any infographic or 140 characters would allow. Alas, any kind of analysis along those lines would be TL;DR.

457 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:44:53am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

A fellow lizard has taken me to task on Teh Twitters over this meme.
Is it lame?

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Switzerland almost had a huge increase to their minimum wage…

Switzerland Rejects World’s Highest Minimum Wage of $25 Per Hour

458 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 9:44:56am

re: #448 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, I would think that firing on children is universally verboten. Just shows how far over line this particular group of whackos have travelled.

Yeah, they’ve crossed into Kharijite territory now.

en.wikipedia.org

islamfrominside.com

The second one is certainly worth reading - it pretty much explains so much of what we’re seeing. To coin a phrase, it’s neo-Karijitism.

459 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 9:45:02am

re: #452 jaunte

Taking a slight increase in burger prices is a good tradeoff for generating more economic activity by raising the minimum wage, IMO.

Have to agree. As shown, the price of burgers has gone up even without raising the minimum wage. I don’t mind paying five cents or so more so someone can make a more decent wage.

460 b_sharp  May 20, 2014 9:46:02am

The following conclusion is the problem.

“That just debunks the myth that raising the wage increases prices.”

That the prices have gone up without any minimum wage increase shows only that there are other factors that can increase the price of goods, including inflation which is part of the free market.

It doesn’t exclude minimum wage increases from being a factor in the past or in the future as the conclusion states. It does show that this specific increase was not due to a minimum wage increase, but the conclusion goes beyond the immediate case and encompasses all cases.

461 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:47:25am
462 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 9:47:47am

re: #445 FemNaziBitch

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What was hotter, the picnic table or the ATM?

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463 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 9:48:13am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

A fellow lizard has taken me to task on Teh Twitters over this meme.
Is it lame?

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Hmm. Memes by nature oversimplify, a bit like big bumper stickers. Tie minimum to inflation? I think I’d agree. maybe most folks would. Impose rather than encourage the minimum wage into the living wage across the board? Much more economically debatable, controversial.

On a light side note I’d feel better of the meat they use did not taste like it has also been frozen for years and years

464 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 9:48:24am

Alabama just being Alabama.

465 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 9:49:36am

re: #464 Skip Intro

Or rather dixienet being dixienet. If they’re the only ones putting up such billboards, it’s a sign that secession isn’t all the rage…

466 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:49:40am

re: #463 Rightwingconspirator

On a light side note I’d feel better of the meat they use did not taste like it has also been frozen for years and years

Try the newly discovered Mammothburger!

467 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:49:45am

re: #462 NJDhockeyfan

What was hotter, the picnic table or the ATM?

//

I’m thinking the ATM —money has a way about it, you know.

468 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 9:50:06am

Yes, Alabama is such an economic powerhouse that no doubt seceding will prove to be fruitful.

469 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 9:50:56am

re: #451 NJDhockeyfan

No, I look at the individuals. There are plenty of Dems who get caught in racist rants.

Why don’t the overall policies of the party, the things that actually affect people, matter to you on this?

If you paid attention in the past you would know I don’t vote down party lines. I look at who is running and decide who will serve best for me. I have a feeling you vote strictly for one party only.

I haven’t accused you of only voting for one party, so this is a weird bit of defensiveness. I’m asking you why it’s not important to you that one party, the GOP, pushes policies like voter suppression and anti-DREAM act stuff—leaving aside the politics, but just looking at the policies.

470 sagehen  May 20, 2014 9:51:26am

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

A fellow lizard has taken me to task on Teh Twitters over this meme.
Is it lame?

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It’s not just “inflation”… climate change has led to smaller crops/rise in grain price (you may notice bagels and challah have gone up by more than inflation), plus ethanol is taking a larger share of the corn crop so feedlot beef is more expensive (grass-fed beef hasn’t gone up by much, but it’s already so much more expensive than grain-fed that who’d notice).

So. It’s only semi-lame, in the sense that it simplifies the complicated. CEO pay isn’t the biggest driver of rising McD’s prices.

471 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:51:28am

Do Condo Owners get 1/2 a vote?

472 jaunte  May 20, 2014 9:51:42am

re: #464 Skip Intro

Alabama just being Alabama.

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Who needs those 83,000 aerospace and defense jobs, anyway?

473 b.d.  May 20, 2014 9:52:18am

re: #464 Skip Intro

Alabama just being Alabama.

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Because Alabama would do soooo great just being the country of Alabama,

p.s. - that means they can’t be part of the SEC anymore either, that is for American teams.

474 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 9:52:19am

re: #471 FemNaziBitch

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Do Condo Owners get 1/2 a vote?

Ted Yoho- to the right of Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams on suffrage.

475 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 9:52:37am

re: #443 Sergey Romanov

Love’em :)

For the music lovers unfamiliar with Sparks and the Mael Brothers here is a Sparks golden oldie…TITS! (Sounds like there is a skip in it, but the only copy that came up in a YouTube search)

Youtube Video

And with that…time for lunch and the afternoon work schedule…maybe grab a beer and drink until I can’t see no more!

476 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:54:00am
477 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 9:54:09am

re: #471 FemNaziBitch

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Do Condo Owners get 1/2 a vote?

That’s time-share owners. Condo owners get a vote that’s automatically nullified by a counter-vote from another condo owner who hates them.

478 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 20, 2014 9:54:17am

re: #414 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window

Kentucky primaries are today. Any news yet from that neck of the woods?

On my way to town now to vote.

479 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:54:33am
480 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:55:23am
481 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 9:57:03am

re: #480 FemNaziBitch

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I saw that earlier. I give up. I’m becoming more and more of a cynic every day knowing that we elect people like this and Yoho whose views on suffrage would be considered reactionary in the 1860’s.

482 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:57:21am
483 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 9:58:06am

re: #471 FemNaziBitch

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Do Condo Owners get 1/2 a vote?

Not a surprise - that’s a common theme among the wingnuttier wingnuts.

484 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:58:28am

This Page is worth reading —well the link.

It’s a rather short read.

485 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 9:58:57am

re: #483 Dr Lizardo

Not a surprise - that’s a common theme among the wingnuttier wingnuts.

I was thinking, after I posted that, it would be more like 3/5.

486 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 9:59:00am

re: #483 Dr Lizardo

Not a surprise - that’s a common theme among the wingnuttier wingnuts.

That and we need to bring back the state legislatures electing senators. Nuts and bolts.

487 Eventual Carrion  May 20, 2014 9:59:32am

re: #363 Bulworth

Entrapment!! Obama thugs! RESTART Op American Spring RESTART and unleash Revolution!!! Free Dinesh!!!

Free danishes? I love danishes. Oh, I miss read that. Never mind.

488 NJDhockeyfan  May 20, 2014 10:00:17am

re: #469 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Why don’t the overall policies of the party, the things that actually affect people, matter to you on this?

I haven’t accused you of only voting for one party, so this is a weird bit of defensiveness. I’m asking you why it’s not important to you that one party, the GOP, pushes policies like voter suppression and anti-DREAM act stuff—leaving aside the politics, but just looking at the policies.

I shall repeat what I just posted. Pay attention: I look at who is running and decide who will serve best for me. If I only vote for people who had an ‘R’ next to their name I would be considered a Republican hack.

If you were serious about being against racists you would be outraged by what Ellen Birnbaum said. Instead you appear more upset that this racist has a ‘D’ next to her name which would make you a Democrat hack.

I have to get ready for work now. Thanks for the debate. BBL

489 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 10:00:21am

continuing on a meme:

490 Dr. Matt  May 20, 2014 10:00:24am

re: #480 FemNaziBitch

Things that will turn kids Teh Gay:

*School Standards
*Evolution
*Gay Marriage
*Hollywood
*Libruls
*Teh Gay Mafia/Teh Gay Agenda
*Books about Teh Gays
*TV shows about Teh Gays
*The NFL draft

Am I missing anything?

491 Eventual Carrion  May 20, 2014 10:00:34am

re: #366 Dr. Matt

But, he and his lawyer ensured us that he did nothing wrong and that this was just Obama seeking revenge. What gives?

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Facts. Confirmed!

492 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:00:37am

re: #487 Eventual Carrion

Free danishes? I love danishes. Oh, I miss read that. Never mind.

This was the same to my disappointment with Chuck Hagel. They said he was a friend of Hamas. I heard friend of hummus. Shit everyone loves hummus. Well everyone except wingnuts.

493 Varek Raith  May 20, 2014 10:01:10am

re: #489 FemNaziBitch

continuing on a meme:

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Are they trying to be as cartoonishly villainous as possible?
Yeesh.

494 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 10:01:39am
495 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 10:01:44am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

That and we need to bring back the state legislatures electing senators. Nuts and bolts.

That’s a very common theme with the RWN’s…..you’ll see it on Freep all the time. Occasionally, repealing the right of women to vote as well.

496 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:01:54am

re: #489 FemNaziBitch

continuing on a meme:

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Can we just deport Gohmert to the moon?

497 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:02:33am

re: #493 Varek Raith

Are they trying to be as cartoonishly villainous as possible?
Yeesh.

You’re not kidding. I’m waiting for Gohmert or one of the idiots to claim the 13th amendment was unconstitutional and big government interfering with the rights of proper owners.

498 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:03:05am

re: #495 Dr Lizardo

That’s a very common theme with the RWN’s…..you’ll see it on Freep all the time. Occasionally, repealing the right of women to vote as well.

Yeah I remember being shocked when I first saw that espoused when Alan Keyes said it about a decade ago but it’s become an almost mainstream wingnut position.

499 Varek Raith  May 20, 2014 10:03:47am

re: #494 FemNaziBitch

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LIES.
The fairy on my shoulder said so.

500 BeenHereAwhile  May 20, 2014 10:03:49am

re: #245 NJDhockeyfan

Uh oh

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“Large number of Chinese troops seen heading for China-Vietnam border”

ISTR that that didn’t go so well for the PLA the last time they invaded Vietnam.

501 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:04:27am

re: #488 NJDhockeyfan

I shall repeat what I just posted. Pay attention: I look at who is running and decide who will serve best for me. If I only vote for people who had an ‘R’ next to their name I would be considered a Republican hack.

This isn’t a response to my question, though, it’s a dodge. I”m talking about the policies that that person is going to enforce. I know you don’t mean it this way, but right now the way you’re pretzeling is making it look like you’re saying you don’t care if the person has racist policies, as long as they serve best for you. Again: I know that’s not what you mean. But you’re not engaging with the actual question I’m asking you: do you disagree that the GOP has more racist policies, more policies negatively affecting minorities—like opposing the DREAM act, like talking about repealing the 14th amendment, like opposing the VRA, et al— and if so, why?

If you were serious about being against racists you would be outraged by what Ellen Birnbaum said. Instead you appear more upset that this racist has a ‘D’ next to her name which would make you a Democrat hack.

I think what she said is shitty and I’m glad she’s being taken to task for it. It doesn’t change the much bigger issues, like the GOP’s systematic attempts to suppress the black vote.

I have to get ready for work now. Thanks for the debate. BBL

It wasn’t a debate. You just dodged the question repeatedly.

502 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 10:06:17am

re: #500 BeenHereAwhile

ISTR that that didn’t go so well for the PLA the last time they invaded Vietnam.

Historically, it’s never gone well for China when they invade Vietnam. The Chinese typically prevail initially, but then they end up getting their asses handed to them once the Vietnamese fight back.

503 FemNaziBitch  May 20, 2014 10:06:41am

bbl

504 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 10:07:57am
505 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 10:10:12am

re: #494 FemNaziBitch

Is that a temporary, or cumulative effect?

506 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 10:11:16am

re: #504 Charles Johnson

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I could so imagine that as a screensaver from Berkley Systems back in the day. Where have all the good screensavers gone? (and don’t tell me we don’t need them…. I don’t NEED an overclocked 6 core machine with RAID to surf the web…. but I’ve got one).

RBS

507 iossarian  May 20, 2014 10:14:44am

re: #506 RealityBasedSteve

I could so imagine that as a screensaver from Berkley Systems back in the day. Where have all the good screensavers gone? (and don’t tell me we don’t need them…. I don’t NEED an overclocked 6 core machine with RAID to surf the web…. but I’ve got one).

RBS

Ha. First thing I thought of was the flying toasters.

508 Kragar  May 20, 2014 10:19:46am
509 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 10:20:33am

re: #507 iossarian

Ha. First thing I thought of was the flying toasters.

You realize that we are seriously dating ourselves. I can feel the carbon 14 atoms breaking down even as we speak.

RBS

510 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:24:56am

re: #508 Kragar

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It’s actually worse than that:

“Well, because of the talk of amnesty in this town and because we do not have a secured border, then this administration and this Congress also is complicit in helping lure people into sex trafficking, into horrible situations, even people trying to cross deserts who don’t make it,” Gohmert said during a speech on the House floor. “That should not be.”

“It is time to stop the luring of young children across the border by the activities of this administration,” Gohmert insisted.

Racist and creepy: A twofer!

And:

He added that children would continue to come to the U.S. as long as Homeland Security continued to provide “three hot meals, a bed to sleep,” and “if we can’t find your parents illegally in the United States, then we will find you some other parents, people are being drawn in.”

So… what doe she actually want done with the kids?

511 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:25:26am

re: #509 RealityBasedSteve

You realize that we are seriously dating ourselves. I can feel the carbon 14 atoms breaking down even as we speak.

RBS

Do you remember a great mac game where you piloted a paper airplane through various environments?

That game ruled.

512 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:26:38am

re: #510 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’s actually worse than that:

Racist and creepy: A twofer!

And:

So… what doe she actually want done with the kids?

He really is a special kind of asshole. It’s that kind of shit that makes me resent the hell out of the whole both parties are just as bad crap.

513 BeenHereAwhile  May 20, 2014 10:27:38am

re: #342 ObserverArt

I just put a YouTube of some of the claims of borrowing in the pages article about Spirit suing Zep in Randy California’s name.

By the way, are you familiar with Zep’s management? I’m thinking that had something to do with claims not being settled. Peter Grant was a class one-A, son-of-a-bitch, hard-knocking, take-no-prisoners kind of guy. He probably scared the beejesus out of anyone claiming anything.

Just one of many.

Only to be surpassed by the folk running record companies.

“Like a mongoose and a cobra in a cage.”

514 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:29:12am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

He really is a special kind of asshole. It’s that kind of shit that makes me resent the hell out of the whole both parties are just as bad crap.

The GOP can’t even pass an incredibly moderate, military-service-path-to-citizenship immigration bill.

Rep. Jeff Denham labeled his bill the ENLIST Act and said he would seek a vote as an amendment to the popular annual defense bill, the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA.

In response, Doug Heye, spokesman for House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, said: “No proposed ENLIST amendments to NDAA will be made in order.”

Heye said no stand-alone vote on the measure would be permitted, either.
When the Associated Press asked House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) office whether the Speaker agrees with Cantor’s decision, Boehner’s spokesperson said the GOP leadership is on the same page.

And with that, a sensible bill with broad support, which would bolster the military, support immigrants, and honor American traditions, is dead - because Heritage Action and Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) deemed the proposal unacceptable.

msnbc.com

515 Rightwingconspirator  May 20, 2014 10:29:45am

re: #504 Charles Johnson

Made me think of this book I actually own and enjoyed on a long flight

At LGF Amazon

amazon.com

516 Kragar  May 20, 2014 10:30:14am

re: #514 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The GOP can’t even pass an incredibly moderate, military-service-path-to-citizenship immigration bill.

msnbc.com

The GOP is nothing but obstructionists and seditionists at this point

517 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:36:16am

re: #516 Kragar

The GOP is nothing but obstructionists and seditionists at this point

What’s annoying is not bringing it up to a vote.

I worked for two years to get a bill passed here in New York, and it died because the GOP wouldn’t bring it to a vote. They admitted it would pass if they brought it to the floor, but they didn’t want to. What reason? None really given. Political reason: not wanting to do anything that looked like they supported labor.

518 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 10:36:25am

Kragar posted:

Louie Gohmert: 3-year-old immigrants don’t deserve legal status if they can’t pay taxes.

Behold our party of ‘family values’. /

519 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:37:01am

re: #514 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The GOP can’t even pass an incredibly moderate, military-service-path-to-citizenship immigration bill.

msnbc.com

It’s really pathetic. HAdn’t heard about that, thanks for the link.

520 iossarian  May 20, 2014 10:37:15am

re: #511 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Do you remember a great mac game where you piloted a paper airplane through various environments?

That game ruled.

The best aspect of old games is the unbeatable final level (or sometimes 2-3 levels, e.g., Manic Miner). The designers obviously knew that any “you won” final screen would be a huge let down, so they just made it nigh-on impossible to get past the 43 flying exploda-monkeys.

521 Iwouldprefernotto  May 20, 2014 10:37:31am

re: #518 Bulworth
Louie Gohmert: 3-year-old immigrants don’t deserve legal status if they can’t pay taxes.

Kragar posted:

Behold our party of ‘family values’. /

I thought taxes were bad

522 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:38:14am

re: #521 Iwouldprefernotto

Louie Gohmert: 3-year-old immigrants don’t deserve legal status if they can’t pay taxes.

I thought taxes were bad

Gohmert’s just being his usual troll self.

523 Eventual Carrion  May 20, 2014 10:38:32am

re: #506 RealityBasedSteve

I could so imagine that as a screensaver from Berkley Systems back in the day. Where have all the good screensavers gone? (and don’t tell me we don’t need them…. I don’t NEED an overclocked 6 core machine with RAID to surf the web…. but I’ve got one).

RBS

I like to use the marquee screensaver. Then I can just put in any random crap I want. Like right now when it activates the message “If Milli Vanilli fell in the woods, would someone else make a noise?” scrolls across the screen.

524 petesh  May 20, 2014 10:39:47am

re: #476 FemNaziBitch

Nine different House and Senate committees have already investigated the #Benghazi attacks.

Time for a meta-investigation committee!

525 klys  May 20, 2014 10:40:20am

re: #521 Iwouldprefernotto

Louie Gohmert: 3-year-old immigrants don’t deserve legal status if they can’t pay taxes.

I thought taxes were bad

Taxes are bad unless they’re being paid by blah people. Then they are the due of the overlords people.

//

526 Varek Raith  May 20, 2014 10:40:31am

re: #511 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Do you remember a great mac game where you piloted a paper airplane through various environments?

That game ruled.

Now you’re making me feel old.

527 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 10:42:13am

re: #526 Varek Raith

Now you’re making me feel old.

I think the only Mac game I ever played was Wizardry.

528 makeitstop  May 20, 2014 10:45:30am

re: #475 ObserverArt

For the music lovers unfamiliar with Sparks and the Mael Brothers here is a Sparks golden oldie…TITS! (Sounds like there is a skip in it, but the only copy that came up in a YouTube search)

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And with that…time for lunch and the afternoon work schedule…maybe grab a beer and drink until I can’t see no more!

St. Vincent’s ‘Birth In Reverse’ should have been a Sparks song.

Youtube Video

529 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  May 20, 2014 10:47:40am

re: #506 RealityBasedSteve

I could so imagine that as a screensaver from Berkley Systems back in the day. Where have all the good screensavers gone? (and don’t tell me we don’t need them…. I don’t NEED an overclocked 6 core machine with RAID to surf the web…. but I’ve got one).

RBS

jwz.org

Lots of great screen hacks, including some you will recognize from the AfterDark days.

530 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 10:50:13am

Today the Russian terrorist (and former drug-dealer, as well as escaped convict) Aleksandr Mozhaev aka Babay addressed Vladimir Putin and asked for help in destroying the “kike-Masons” in the West.

Youtube Video

531 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:51:26am

re: #530 Sergey Romanov

He seems nice.

532 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 10:51:58am

re: #531 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

He seems nice.

A hero of the pro-Russian side.

533 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:54:56am

re: #532 Sergey Romanov

A hero of the pro-Russian side.

I know that this Jewish-Mason conspiracy thingy is old as shit, but I don’t get why it stuck or perpetuated. Was it just that Masons tended to be more cosmopolitan and actually let Jews join and stuff? Do you know much on this?

534 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:56:09am

re: #530 Sergey Romanov

Today the Russian terrorist (and former drug-dealer, as well as escaped convict) Aleksandr Mozhaev addressed Vladimir Putin and asked for help in destroying the “kike-Masons” in the West.

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Next years Value Voters summit keynote?

535 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 10:57:47am

re: #533 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I know that this Jewish-Mason conspiracy thingy is old as shit, but I don’t get why it stuck or perpetuated. Was it just that Masons tended to be more cosmopolitan and actually let Jews join and stuff? Do you know much on this?

More that Freemasonry is part of “The Zionist Plan” to conquer the world. I think it crops in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but it’s been a loooooong time since I’ve read that, so my memory might be a little fuzzy.

536 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 10:58:20am

re: #533 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I know that this Jewish-Mason conspiracy thingy is old as shit, but I don’t get why it stuck or perpetuated. Was it just that Masons tended to be more cosmopolitan and actually let Jews join and stuff? Do you know much on this?

The antisemitic logic is uncomplicated:
Masons = elites.
Elites = Jews, secret or otherwise, or their “shabbos-goyim”.

537 Kragar  May 20, 2014 10:58:37am

in an interview with Colmes last night, Riley said that thousands of people were present: “I think we probably had three or four thousand the first day.” He later added that “probably 1,000” activists are still on the National Mall pushing for Obama’s removal from office.

Declaring the event to be a success, Riley said Operation American Spring is now entering a second phase in its plan to oust President Obama and top administration officials.

“We’re still in that process, we were in a mobilization phase, now we’re in phase II of exercising our strength and length of phase”

538 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 10:59:20am

re: #536 Sergey Romanov

The antisemitic logic is uncomplicated:
Masons = elites.
Elites = Jews, secret or otherwise, or their “shabbos-goyim”.

The anti-semites’ firm conviction of Jewish superiority is one of the weirder aspects.

539 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 10:59:37am

re: #533 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I know that this Jewish-Mason conspiracy thingy is old as shit, but I don’t get why it stuck or perpetuated. Was it just that Masons tended to be more cosmopolitan and actually let Jews join and stuff? Do you know much on this?

But in this particular case it’s religion-based (as is all too usual). He’s an Orthodox fundy nationalist.

540 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 10:59:43am

re: #537 Kragar

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Doesn’t Phase I need to be successful for Phase II to occur?

541 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:00:21am

re: #539 Sergey Romanov

But in this particular case it’s religion-based (as is all to usual). He’s an Orthodox fundy nationalist.

So what’s old is new in otherwords. This guy would have fit in fine with the people I did my research paper on.

542 Pie-onist Overlord  May 20, 2014 11:00:49am

[never mind, it’s a parody account]
CURSES PWN3D AGAIN

543 Kragar  May 20, 2014 11:00:54am

re: #540 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t Phase I need to be successful for Phase II to occur?

Invader Zim had a stronger grasp of reality.

544 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:01:17am

re: #542 Pie-onist Overlord

Stay classy, wingnuts!

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But Obama’s a Nazi, right?

545 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:01:39am

re: #541 HappyWarrior

IIRC, your paper was about the pre-revolutionary Russian right-wing?

546 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 11:02:10am

re: #530 Sergey Romanov

Today the Russian terrorist (and former drug-dealer, as well as escaped convict) Aleksandr Mozhaev aka Babay addressed Vladimir Putin and asked for help in destroying the “kike-Masons” in the West.

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Ha! I’m really glad you’re here to cut through some of the BS. I just googled him and the second link in the results was an article in Time that tries to paint quite a different, more sympathetic, picture:

Exclusive: Meet the Pro-Russian Separatists of Eastern Ukraine

Perhaps aptly, Mozhaev’s nickname among them is Babay, the Russian word for bogeyman, which is exactly what the Ukrainian government has tried to make him. Over the past week, authorities in Kiev have released photographs that purport to prove that Mozhaev is an agent of the Russian military intelligence service known as GRU, and they have shared that information with senior Western diplomats and some reporters. This claim has been at the center of their narrative that Russian special forces, controlled by the Kremlin, have taken over towns in the Donbass, the industrial heartland of eastern Ukraine.

But Mozhaev, a mild-mannered fighter with a chest like a barrel, says he only wishes that were true, and so do many of the people in the separatist-controlled towns that dot this region. If Russian forces had indeed taken over eastern Ukraine, as they did in Crimea last month, the streets of the separatist stronghold of Slavyansk would probably not be nearly as lawless as they have become in recent days. […]

Mozhaev and his comrades took control of Slavyansk about a week ago. But over the past few days there has been no evident sign that they are receiving material support from Russia. Their foot soldiers have been so short on fuel that they have asked journalists to bring them gasoline in exchange for granting interviews, saying they don’t have enough fuel to go on patrols. […]

547 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:02:25am

re: #545 Sergey Romanov

IIRC, your paper was about the pre-revolutionary Russian right-wing?

The pogroms from Alexander II’s assassination to the eve of WWI but the pre-revolutionary Russian right wing of course played a big part. Good memory though.

548 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 11:03:21am

re: #540 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t Phase I need to be successful for Phase II to occur?

I guess it depends on what the real plans are. If it’s some sort of grift plan the phases can continue regardless of what the expressed “phases” actually accomplished since you can simply proclaim that they succeeded and things are going according to plan.

549 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:03:43am

My kid brother made an amusing point the other day about the SS. “You can’t claim you’re the good guys when your emblem is the skull and cross bones.”

550 wrenchwench  May 20, 2014 11:04:27am

re: #542 Pie-onist Overlord

This was in the Sunday NYT.

Always Hungry? Here’s Why

FOR most of the last century, our understanding of the cause of obesity has been based on immutable physical law. Specifically, it’s the first law of thermodynamics, which dictates that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. When it comes to body weight, this means that calorie intake minus calorie expenditure equals calories stored. Surrounded by tempting foods, we overeat, consuming more calories than we can burn off, and the excess is deposited as fat. The simple solution is to exert willpower and eat less.

The problem is that this advice doesn’t work, at least not for most people over the long term. In other words, your New Year’s resolution to lose weight probably won’t last through the spring, let alone affect how you look in a swimsuit in July. More of us than ever are obese, despite an incessant focus on calorie balance by the government, nutrition organizations and the food industry.

[…]

The sad, almost tragic irony is that the co-author’s name is Dr. Ludwig.

551 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 11:04:34am

re: #549 HappyWarrior

My kid brother made an amusing point the other day about the SS. “You can’t claim you’re the good guys when your emblem is the skull and cross bones.”

But everyone (but the victims) love pirates!
/

552 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:05:16am

re: #551 Feline Fearless Leader

But everyone (but the victims) love pirates!
/

Haha touche.

553 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 20, 2014 11:05:48am

re: #549 HappyWarrior

My kid brother made an amusing point the other day about the SS. “You can’t claim you’re the good guys when your emblem is the skull and cross bones.”

Youtube Video

554 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:07:02am

re: #553 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

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Great minds ha! Good sketch.

555 b_sharp  May 20, 2014 11:07:10am

re: #540 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t Phase I need to be successful for Phase II to occur?

Phase II is actually Plan B.

556 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:07:20am

re: #549 HappyWarrior

My kid brother made an amusing point the other day about the SS. “You can’t claim you’re the good guys when your emblem is the skull and cross bones.”

Skull and Bones Society… well, OK, not necessarily good guys, but not necessarily monsters either. Then there are whole religions with means of execution as their symbols… ;)

557 Lidane  May 20, 2014 11:07:55am

Impeachment is a dead end, so apparently, just arresting POTUS for somehow violating the Appropriations Clause should do the trick.

WTF.

558 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 11:07:56am

re: #552 HappyWarrior

Haha touche.

And it was not that uncommon as insignia in military units pre-WW2. The naval use generally harking back to pirates, but also Napoleonic-era cavalry used it, especially hussar units.

en.wikipedia.org

559 b.d.  May 20, 2014 11:09:34am

re: #557 Lidane

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Impeachment is a dead end, so apparently, just arresting POTUS for somehow violating the Appropriations Clause should do the trick.

WTF.

I hope WND sticks with that call for the duration, the next step what they would call for is pretty clear.

560 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 11:10:52am

re: #556 Sergey Romanov

Skull and Bones… well, OK, not necessarily good guys, but not necessarily monsters either. Then there are whole religions with means of execution as their symbols… ;)

Ouch.

561 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:11:05am

re: #558 Feline Fearless Leader

And it was not that uncommon as insignia in military units pre-WW2. The naval use generally harking back to pirates, but also Napoleonic-era cavalry used it, especially hussar units.

en.wikipedia.org

Good points. I guess we do have the benefit of hindsight bias but it just looks so sinister while many of those other emblems look more cool than sinister but again it’s present bias.

562 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:11:29am

re: #556 Sergey Romanov

Skull and Bones… well, OK, not necessarily good guys, but not necessarily monsters either. Then there are whole religions with means of execution as their symbols… ;)

Yeah I always thought that was weird too. Organized religion confuses the kid too.

563 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 11:11:53am

re: #548 Feline Fearless Leader

I guess it depends on what the real plans are. If it’s some sort of grift plan the phases can continue regardless of what the expressed “phases” actually accomplished since you can simply proclaim that they succeeded and things are going according to plan.

I am SO GLAD that I didn’t bid to get the T-Shirt concession for the upcoming coup / revolution. I’d be seconding them off to a jobber for pennies on the dollar by now.

RBS

564 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 11:12:52am

re: #557 Lidane

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Impeachment is a dead end, so apparently, just arresting POTUS for somehow violating the Appropriations Clause should do the trick.

WTF.

These people live in some kind of fantasy world. Like that wacko from OAS who says they’re launching “Phase II”.

They’re utterly delusional.

565 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:13:06am

re: #562 HappyWarrior

Yeah I always thought that was weird too. Organized religion confuses the kid too.

What? Heresy! Bring in the comfy chair!

566 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 11:13:47am

re: #533 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I know that this Jewish-Mason conspiracy thingy is old as shit, but I don’t get why it stuck or perpetuated. Was it just that Masons tended to be more cosmopolitan and actually let Jews join and stuff? Do you know much on this?

Obdi, you weren’t around this weekend when I posted my latest Page, but it might be of interest to you: Anti-Semitism: A Convenient Hatred.

567 jaunte  May 20, 2014 11:14:23am

re: #563 RealityBasedSteve

I am SO GLAD that I didn’t bid to get the T-Shirt concession for the upcoming coup / revolution. I’d be seconding them off to a jobber for pennies on the dollar by now.

RBS

Discounted! Originally $32.50!!!

OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING T-Shirt
4.00 (8681 reviews)
$27.99

cafepress.com

568 BeenHereAwhile  May 20, 2014 11:14:29am

re: #506 RealityBasedSteve

I could so imagine that as a screensaver from Berkley Systems back in the day. Where have all the good screensavers gone? (and don’t tell me we don’t need them…. I don’t NEED an overclocked 6 core machine with RAID to surf the web…. but I’ve got one).

RBS

‘I don’t need no stinking screen saver.’

569 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:15:15am

You know though on the subject of the Nazis, the more that I learn about them the more it actually angers me when people try to cheapen their evil by comparing Obama’s admin to them.

570 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:16:32am

BTW, Russian “zhid” in “zhidomasony” is usually translated as “Judeo”. But that’s a mistranslation, like using “black” to translate the n-word. It doesn’t even begin to express the hatred with which this word is charged. (Note: the Poles use the same word absolutely neutrally.)

571 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 11:16:32am

re: #465 Sergey Romanov

Or rather dixienet being dixienet. If they’re the only ones putting up such billboards, it’s a sign that secession isn’t all the rage…

Bunch of Pennsylvanians on their way to Panama City Beach for some shrimp.

572 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 11:16:42am

Given that the current President of the United States is determined to bypass the House’s appropriation authority and spend gigantic sums on whatever programs he wants or enforcing whatever executive orders he issues, is there an enforcement mechanism for his violating the power of the purse clauses in the Constitution?

This is a special kind of derp stupid. And it’s only Tuesday.

573 RealityBasedSteve  May 20, 2014 11:17:04am

re: #567 jaunte

Discounted! Originally $32.50!!!

Considering that CafePress does it “On-Demand”, the pity is that he’s not taking a beating on it.

RBS

574 Feline Fearless Leader  May 20, 2014 11:18:40am

re: #573 RealityBasedSteve

Considering that CafePress does it “On-Demand”, the pity is that he’s not taking a beating on it.

RBS

Should have gone with the shower curtains and mentioned that with minor modifications they can double as an emergency body bag.
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575 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:19:17am

So, does anyone here use MS Surface with the full Windows?

576 klys  May 20, 2014 11:19:41am

re: #575 Sergey Romanov

So, does anyone here use MS Surface with the full Windows?

I have a Surface Pro 2, which runs the full Windows.

577 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:20:00am

re: #576 klys

I have a Surface Pro 2, which runs the full Windows.

Are you satisfied? Is it fast?

578 Decatur Deb  May 20, 2014 11:21:22am

re: #570 Sergey Romanov

BTW, Russian “zhid” in “zhidomasony” is usually translated as “Judeo”. But that’s a mistranslation, like using “black” to translate the n-word. It doesn’t even begin to express the hatred with which this word is charged. (Note: the Poles use the same word absolutely neutrally.)

Do you suggest context and intent might have something to do with the meaning of a syllable?

579 klys  May 20, 2014 11:22:49am

re: #577 Sergey Romanov

Are you satisfied? Is it fast?

It works great for my purposes. I replaced a Macbook Air running Win 7 with it.

I’ve got the 256gig model (8 gigs RAM). I use it mostly when travelling, although some at home too. It runs everything I have thrown at it without any problems and can handle some gaming (although not with spectacular graphics). I was using it for Android development last week.

If you get one, get the TypeCover (the one with the physical keys).

580 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 11:23:02am

There are many barriers to impeachment. First is, you need Congress to do it, and that takes too long and would require something like a rational debate. The invertebrates who run the GOP don’t have the spine for it there are at least some marginally sane members of the GOP. Second, impeachment is merely the indictment, issued by a House majority. That’s a many month-long arduous processand we don’t have time for that—if Obama stays in office another day, he’ll set up his FEMA death camp trailer parks for reals. The actual trial is held by the Senate. Even if the GOP gains majority this November, it will be nowhere near the 67 votes to convict required by the Constitution. so no matter what, nobody will do what we want. We need immediate action now because shut up

581 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:24:03am

re: #579 klys

Cool, thanks. I’m sort of eyeing Surface 3.

582 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 11:24:33am

re: #556 Sergey Romanov

Skull and Bones Society… well, OK, not necessarily good guys, but not necessarily monsters either. Then there are whole religions with means of execution as their symbols… ;)

Ohhhh…Sergey is flying above some heads today!

I’ve mentioned it around here before, but you were not around I don’t think.

A good friend (since passed) and I used to go fishing, but it really was more like an exercise in philosophy. Anyway, we were kicking around what would happen if Jesus Christ came back to earth and we decided he would be killed again, but this time with someone assassinating him when speaking to the people as he would be seen as a radical threat.

My buddy then blurted out, well then, should that happen, would a future religion break out and the people would all wear a little silver pistol as the symbol of his death. And everyone would pray to the gun and make the sign of the gun, etc.

That thought has always stuck with me. I have never been able to look at the cross the same way ever again. I admit, my buddy and I were never what one would call normal. And I am still glad of that fact!

583 Bulworth  May 20, 2014 11:25:37am

Obama is using BENGHazi!! as a distraction from his writing executive orders and violating Appropriations Clause!!!

584 Sergey Romanov  May 20, 2014 11:26:31am
585 darthstar  May 20, 2014 11:26:47am
586 klys  May 20, 2014 11:27:52am

re: #581 Sergey Romanov

Cool, thanks. I’m sort of eyeing Surface 3.

There have been some bumps in the road with it (Windows Update no longer installs automatically after a mess with the firmware over December) but overall I’m really happy with it. It’s fully capable of functioning as a laptop, although I advocate having a mouse if you really want to use it that way.

587 Stanley Sea  May 20, 2014 11:31:29am
588 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 11:36:47am

re: #587 Stanley Sea

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As Mr. Takei would say, “Oh, my……”

589 Lidane  May 20, 2014 11:38:03am
590 Dr Lizardo  May 20, 2014 11:39:27am

re: #589 Lidane

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And……….BOOM! Another one. Wingnut heads go all ‘splodey.

591 HappyWarrior  May 20, 2014 11:40:29am

re: #589 Lidane

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Woot. Great news.

592 A Mom Anon  May 20, 2014 11:59:13am

re: #459 HappyWarrior

The price of beef in general has gone up if my trip to the store this morning is any indication. The cheapest decent quality ground beef I could find at Kroger was 4.29 a lb. Obviously McD’s doesn’t use the top notch or even the medium notch beef, but still the price of beef is a bit nuts right now, even cheaper cuts are between 5.99 and 7.99 a lb. Last year at this time I could buy a decent pot roast for about 4.49 a lb, that same cut today was 7.99. So the price of any beef is going to be higher, just as an FYI. The drought in the west and Midwest where the cows are is a big reason why. There’s not enough water for large herds and they’ve been sold off before they died off. Now there’s a shortage, comparatively speaking, and the prices are up. Chicken on the other hand is still fairly reasonable.

Of course this is just North Metro Atlanta, I have no idea what it’s like anywhere else.

593 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 3:28:29pm

re: #489 FemNaziBitch

continuing on a meme:

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Here’s another pic of Louie just begging for some text or something.


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