Jump to bottom

600 comments
1 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2014 8:05:28pm

The more he talks, the less “brilliant” he seems.

2 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:09:37pm

They didn’t livestream that shit on nbc.com or whatever?

Also, a comment in the previous thread reminded me, the BBC has one presenter (Jeremy Paxton?) who is notorious as a bulldog interviewer. Asks the same question of a politician 6-7 times if the pol is evasive.

If Snowderp ever does a BBC interview, I hope that guy gets the call, and asks some proper questions.

3 Kragar  May 28, 2014 8:09:42pm
4 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 8:10:08pm

The NHL playoffs are much more exciting. Right now Chicago and LA are tied 4-4 in overtime. This is some exciting fast paced hockey at it’s best.

5 Charles Johnson  May 28, 2014 8:10:11pm
6 sagehen  May 28, 2014 8:10:25pm

There’s a continuing webcast of more Snowden and “experts” responding, can you put that at the top of the thread?

7 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:11:17pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

The NHL playoffs are much more exciting. Right now Chicago and LA are tied 4-4 in overtime. This is some exciting fast paced hockey at it’s best.

Goooooo Hawks!

8 andres  May 28, 2014 8:11:41pm

re: #1 Justanotherhuman

The more he talks, the less “brilliant” he seems.

Same can be said of Greenwald.

For a “Master of Disguise”, Snowden seems quite resourceless. All this talking just makes him look like a script kiddie, Big Ego, little original deeds.

9 raina  May 28, 2014 8:12:06pm

do we avoid spoilers here? I didn’t watch, but followed along on Twitter.

10 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2014 8:12:52pm

re: #9 raina

do we avoid spoilers here? I didn’t watch, but followed along on Twitter.

Spoilers? NBC has been flogging this fiasco for days now.

11 Gus  May 28, 2014 8:13:14pm
12 calochortus  May 28, 2014 8:14:08pm

I don’t think I’ll be staying up until 11:00 to watch this. Of course, I don’t think I’d watch it if it were earlier either.

13 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:15:40pm

re: #12 calochortus

I don’t think I’ll be staying up until 11:00 to watch this. Of course, I don’t think I’d watch it if it were earlier either.

I have actually found that for many live events, watching a live blog among likeminded netizens is preferable to yelling at my computer screen over a live stream of the actual event. Funnier too.

14 raina  May 28, 2014 8:15:42pm

So all that talk about carefully vetting the docs he took, unlike that Manning guy was BS.

15 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2014 8:15:43pm
16 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:17:55pm

Re-posted from downstairs:

Thankfully, I’ve never actually heard Edward Snowden speak. I’ve avoided all his video interviews. I take that back, I’ve heard his voice maybe a couple of times offhand on TV. I only have read him speak, mostly here at LGF. And the narcissism and naïveté is grossly evident.

Edward Snowden is a traitor and a coward and will not prove otherwise until he comes back to the United States and sees a judge.

17 calochortus  May 28, 2014 8:18:06pm

So, if Snowden releases a list of everyone the government has been spying on, will it be alphabetized so I can find my name and the names of my friends?

18 Justanotherhuman  May 28, 2014 8:19:40pm

This is fun, but I must hit the rack. Later, Lizards. : )

19 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:20:09pm

re: #14 raina

re: #15 Justanotherhuman

I will reiterate a comment I made this morning: Some enterprising journalist should create a timeline of all the various stories GG and Snowden have told about this Great Adventure and note the discrepancies. Said journalist would be a viral hit and number one on the GG shitlist.

Would. Be. Epic.

20 Lidane  May 28, 2014 8:20:48pm

Because the US is the only country that collects intel, don’tcha know:

21 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:21:45pm

re: #20 Lidane

Nice. A variant of the old “If you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide” chestnut.

22 Gus  May 28, 2014 8:22:09pm
23 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:23:17pm

re: #22 Gus

Even with the Nerf, did Snowden manage to hit anything other than foul balls?

24 ObserverArt  May 28, 2014 8:24:06pm

Before shutting down for the evening, I want to put my last comment from the previous thread here to go along with the discussion others will have as they get to watch the Snowden interview in their time slot. I’m interested if others saw it the same way.

Meh. Typical big media interview. No real meat on them bones.

I still get the feeling all Ed really took was general outlines of how the NSA programs theoretically worked. He didn’t like the theory and its implementation so he wanted to make a big deal about it.

But really, what does it all mean to Johnny Q. Public Jr. that was all freaked out by Greenwald’s reporting of the programs? Of course Williams didn’t drill in and ask anything like that. He pitched generalized stuff that Snowden could lead to wherever Snowden wanted it to go.

Later on everyone. Remember to turn off your phones. Ed said they can use it as a mic and take pictures with it. Boo!

25 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:24:17pm

re: #22 Gus

HAHAHA!!!

26 raina  May 28, 2014 8:24:28pm

re: #19 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Several journalists have tried, but as a whole, they are way too deferential to the GG/Snowden cabal.

27 Rightwingconspirator  May 28, 2014 8:25:19pm

re: #22 Gus

I am not staying up late for Edward Traitor Snowden. Hit me with the spoilers.

28 Kragar  May 28, 2014 8:25:41pm
29 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:27:58pm

re: #27 Rightwingconspirator

I am not staying up late for Edward Traitor Snowden. Hit me with the spoilers.

“Um, I’m like, the best person ever! I am saving the free world! Why can’t I leave Russia?!? I’m like, the bestest person ever!”

30 HappyWarrior  May 28, 2014 8:28:13pm

re: #28 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Seriously the naivete on this issue is maddening. Way the dudebros tell it, you’d think espionage was something that was brand new.

31 Gus  May 28, 2014 8:28:46pm
32 Kragar  May 28, 2014 8:29:52pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Seriously the naivete on this issue is maddening. Way the dudebros tell it, you’d think espionage was something that was brand new.

No one in recorded history every wondered what anyone else was doing before US imperialism reared its ugly head.

33 Charles Johnson  May 28, 2014 8:30:03pm
34 Lidane  May 28, 2014 8:30:36pm

Derp.

35 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:31:19pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Retweeted.

36 Jay in Oregon  May 28, 2014 8:31:35pm

re: #20 Lidane

Because the US is the only country that collects intel, don’tcha know

Am I the only one who remembers the stories during the Olympics in Sochi about how the Russians were blatantly keeping tabs on everyone? People taking cellphones and laptops to Sochi, turning them on, and watching them get hacked in minutes? All of these stories were being told while Snowden was on his “Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego” world tour!

Snowden has to be judged on ALL of his actions, not just the ones that might have actually benefitted the American people. Even if his early revelations had led to a productive dialogue about the NSA (which Greenwald’s ego couldn’t let happen) all of the revelations about foreign intelligence-gathering—especially stuff that had a direct bearing on the War on Terror—counts against him as well.

37 Rightwingconspirator  May 28, 2014 8:33:04pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

This report that almost half of us have been hacked really provides the right perspective on Edward, anon., Wikileaks et al. These are the cyber criminals among us. And like some famous even popular criminals of the past the self righteous crap is just as odious as ever.

38 Lidane  May 28, 2014 8:33:41pm
39 allegro  May 28, 2014 8:34:25pm

I’m still waiting to see anything illegal that Snowden/Greenwald claim they revealed. Anything?

40 Lidane  May 28, 2014 8:34:52pm

re: #36 Jay in Oregon

Anyone who was alive during the Cold War has no business being surprised that countries spy on each other or that governments keep tabs on what’s going on inside their borders.

41 allegro  May 28, 2014 8:37:19pm

re: #40 Lidane

Anyone who was alive during the Cold War has no business being surprised that countries spy on each other or that governments keep tabs on what’s going on inside their borders.

One would think they would have picked up a clue from watching James Bond movies at least.

42 Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2014 8:38:02pm

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

The NHL playoffs are much more exciting. Right now Chicago and LA are tied 4-4 in overtime. This is some exciting fast paced hockey at it’s best.

Indeed. That’s why I haven’t been posting tonight. Too busy watching the game. It’s headed into double overtime.

43 Rightwingconspirator  May 28, 2014 8:38:30pm

re: #40 Lidane

Anyone who was alive during the Cold War last millennium or so has no business being surprised that countries spy on each other or that governments keep tabs on what’s going on inside their borders.

Couldn’t resist.

44 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:38:34pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Ah! Back when there was no Twitter!

I wanted Bush to lose that election with a fierceness. But I couldn’t vote for Kerry (I voted for some crazy nitwit who only got about 8 votes in my entire county of almost 20,000, it was truly a joke vote). I still wanted Kerry to win. Then I saw that .gif that Charles made with the so-called Killian Documents and it proved that a major news organization just fucking lied to sway an election.

That was good work, Charles. I’ve visited your site everyday since.

Ah memories!

45 Charles Johnson  May 28, 2014 8:39:07pm
46 Jay in Oregon  May 28, 2014 8:39:32pm

re: #40 Lidane

Oh, I know full well that other countries have spied and do spy on us. But like I said, we had stories of Russia, Snowden’s “champion of human rights”, spying on foreign nationals and dignitaries during this mess! But NSA and Snowden can wiretap POTUS and DRONEZ!

47 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:40:03pm

re: #40 Lidane

Anyone who was alive during the Cold War has no business being surprised that countries spy on each other or that governments keep tabs on what’s going on inside their borders.

Which makes me wonder how much of the Snowwald Saga is actually impacting the mindshare of most of the U.S. Aside from the 10 percent on either side (who seek and gain bigger microphones), does the vast majority of ‘Murica give a shit?

I was much more outraged with the “enhanced interrogation” shenanigans, which is actually a much more egregious activity. Government spying? Ho Hum.

48 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 8:40:09pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. That’s why I haven’t been posting tonight. Too busy watching the game. It’s headed into double overtime.

It’s about to start. The first period is going to be hard to beat. I don’t know how these guys can keep it up.

49 raina  May 28, 2014 8:40:48pm

Did anyone get the impression from the interview that Snowden is “blindingly smart”?

50 Gus  May 28, 2014 8:41:06pm

Tuesday: “THE NSA KNOWS WHO YOU’RE SLEEPING WITH AND RECORDS ALL YOUR PHONE CONVERSATIONS AND EMAIL!!!11ty.”

Wednesday: “People have unfairly demonized the NSA to a point that is too extreme”

51 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 28, 2014 8:42:35pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

I wrote a book chapter (said book I will not name) with your blog referenced in it relating to Rathergate (I think. I recall the citation in a paper I wrote, but unsure if it was edited out of the chapter).

I blame old age.

52 andres  May 28, 2014 8:43:03pm

re: #32 Kragar

No one in recorded history every wondered what anyone else was doing before US imperialism Obama reared its ugly head.

FTFY.

re: #36 Jay in Oregon

Am I the only one who remembers the stories during the Olympics in Sochi about how the Russians were blatantly keeping tabs on everyone? People taking cellphones and laptops to Sochi, turning them on, and watching them get hacked in minutes? All of these stories were being told while Snowden was on his “Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego” world tour!

I remember the Sochi hacking. They were warning people to assume their communications were compromised.

Snowden has to be judged on ALL of his actions, not just the ones that might have actually benefitted the American people. Even if his early revelations had led to a productive dialogue about the NSA (which Greenwald’s ego couldn’t let happen) all of the revelations about foreign intelligence-gathering—especially stuff that had a direct bearing on the War on Terror—counts against him as well.

That’s something the dudebros won’t want it to happen. They would want to believe that the (small) contribution to a productive dialog about the NSA is absolving of any and all wrong doing.

53 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 8:43:19pm

Chicago wins in the 2nd overtime

54 blueraven  May 28, 2014 8:45:06pm

re: #49 raina

Did anyone get the impression from the interview that Snowden is “blindingly smart”?

No, but he did try to blind with bullshit.
He does sound delusional and narcissistic.

55 Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2014 8:46:35pm

re: #53 NJDhockeyfan

Chicago wins in the 2nd overtime

Brilliant steal and pass to set up Handzus’ game-winner. The Blackhawks are still behind, but they have a fighting chance now.

56 Dark_Falcon  May 28, 2014 8:47:42pm

re: #49 raina

Did anyone get the impression from the interview that Snowden is “blindingly smart”?

The only thing blinding about Edward Snowden is his chutzpah.

57 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:53:29pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Brilliant steal and pass to set up Handzus’ game-winner. The Blackhawks are still behind, but they have a fighting chance now.

Always pretty fun when the sports team from your area delivers some excitement!

Here in Colorado? All our fall/winter sports were wholly anticlimactic. But we’ve got maybe-MVP Troy Tulowitzski on the Rockies baseball roster putting up some impressive numbers.

58 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 8:56:56pm

Fuck man, I really don’t like the new Twitter profile. It’s gonna take some time to get used to. And I need to change my banner photo, the one on there from my trip to Alta, UT two years ago is all blurry.

59 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 8:57:05pm

Countries spy on other countries?
Since the dawn of civilization?
NO WAII.

60 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 8:59:22pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Brilliant steal and pass to set up Handzus’ game-winner. The Blackhawks are still behind, but they have a fighting chance now.

They can beat LA 2 more times.

61 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 9:00:36pm

Let’s not forget that spying prevented WW3.

62 blueraven  May 28, 2014 9:01:01pm

It just irks the shit out of me that he thinks he is the decider of what should be out there. He had no right to do what he did, and there should be consequences.

It should be a matter for debate. Not for one little prick who is full of himself to decide.

63 Gus  May 28, 2014 9:01:32pm

New rules folks.

64 andres  May 28, 2014 9:01:40pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

And instrumental in winning WWII1

—————————-
1. As well as counter-spying

65 Gus  May 28, 2014 9:01:52pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

Let’s not forget that spying prevented WW3.

Thank you.

66 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2014 9:01:57pm

We are doomed because our people are too ignorant to survive. They actually, honestly believe that it is immoral and undemocratic for our government to have secrets and we are uniquely evil in the world in this respect.
Without wanting to give anyone ideas, there are certain types of security (ie secrecy) failures that could kill not thousands but millions of people. With a whole nihilistic industry of conspiraliars, hackers and traitors working night and day to destroy every form of secrecy, the chance of that kind of failure grows by the day. Where will these bastards and their fake morality be then?

67 blueraven  May 28, 2014 9:02:13pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Fuck man, I really don’t like the new Twitter profile. It’s gonna take some time to get used to. And I need to change my banner photo, the one on there from my trip to Alta, UT two years ago is all blurry.

#firstworldproblems

/

68 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2014 9:04:08pm

The allies won world War II because neither the Germans nor the Japanese could protect secrets as well as the allies themselves could.

69 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 9:04:11pm
70 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 9:04:44pm

re: #69 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Four hours of nerf ball?
Yeesh.

71 GlutenFreeJesus  May 28, 2014 9:05:48pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

We are doomed because our people are too ignorant to survive. They actually, honestly believe that it is immoral and undemocratic for our government to have secrets and we are uniquely evil in the world in this respect.
Without wanting to give anyone ideas, there are certain types of security (ie secrecy) failures that could kill not thousands but millions of people. With a whole nihilistic industry of conspiraliars, hackers and traitors working night and day to destroy every form of secrecy, the chance of that kind of failure grows by the day. Where will these bastards and their fake morality be then?

And when those conspirators are in power, they will be allowed to have as many secrets as they want, of course. And to question them makes you a traitor. Funny how that works.

72 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 9:06:05pm

re: #67 blueraven

#firstworldproblems

/

I’m reminded of a joke I saw in Jon Stewart’s book “Earth.” It was something along the lines of “A hot shower: a normal everyday humdrum thing you do in the morning, or an unimaginable luxury, depending on where you live.”

73 TedStriker  May 28, 2014 9:06:35pm

re: #70 Varek Raith

Four hours of nerf ball?
Yeesh.

Well, if Williams hadn’t been kissing Snowden’s ass the whole time, he wouldn’t have gotten four seconds.

74 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2014 9:06:59pm

The Assange/Greenwald/Snowden fanboys demand that the US, and the US alone, give up all national security secrecy. The fanboys are too stupid to know that this has no precedent in history, anywhere, at any time. There is a very good reason for that.

75 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 9:08:12pm

Shiplord, you have some of the best comments.

76 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 9:08:26pm

re: #65 Gus

Thank you.

I feel like I wanna hit my head on to something very dense repeatedly.
These clowns are beyond naive.

77 TedStriker  May 28, 2014 9:14:05pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

I feel like I wanna hit my head on to something very dense repeatedly.
These clowns are beyond naive.

No, the morons that treat GreenSnow as the Second Coming, they’re naive (mostly).

GreenSnow and Assange (I’m lumping Manning in the group of morons above, even though he was Assange’s smash-and-grab artist), the people in the public eye of all of this, the ones actually doing the dirty work, they know exactly what they’re doing, no doubt in my mind, and it’s not to our benefit.

Bond villian-style evil is how I see those choads.

78 simoom  May 28, 2014 9:15:42pm
79 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2014 9:15:55pm

I am sure looking forward to new governments in Ecuador and Brazil. It could happen, especially if Rousseff in Brazil continues to alienate her leftist base with the military campaign in the favelas. The latter, ironically, is making use of Brazil’s own drones. There is also the all too likely possibility of major trouble during the World Cup, draconian crackdown notwithstanding. World Cup a minefield for Brazil’s Rousseff in election year

80 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 9:16:50pm

Heh

81 jonhendry  May 28, 2014 9:23:58pm

re: #40 Lidane

Anyone who was alive during the Cold War has no business being surprised that countries spy on each other or that governments keep tabs on what’s going on inside their borders.

Anyone who was alive when Anna Chapman and the other Russian spies were rounded up just a few years ago has no business being surprised.

82 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2014 9:24:46pm

As for Ecuador, a new government there could have Assange defenestrated (thrown out the window) within the hour. Scotland Yard no doubt has a net waiting.

83 Dr Lizardo  May 28, 2014 9:25:03pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel

I am sure looking forward to new governments in Ecuador and Brazil. It could happen, especially if Rousseff in Brazil continues to alienate her leftist base with the military campaign in the favelas. The latter, ironically, is making use of Brazil’s own drones. There is also the all too likely possibility of major trouble during the World Cup, draconian crackdown notwithstanding. World Cup a minefield for Brazil’s Rousseff in election year

That thought has certainly passed through my mind. The potential for a serious incident - despite all the steps taken - is quite high, at least in my estimation.

84 simoom  May 28, 2014 9:26:04pm
85 Kragar  May 28, 2014 9:26:08pm

re: #81 jonhendry

Anyone who was alive when Anna Chapman and the other Russian spies were rounded up just a few years ago with half a fricking brain has no business being surprised.

86 jonhendry  May 28, 2014 9:26:23pm

re: #47 Rev_Arthur_Belling

“Aside from the 10 percent on either side (who seek and gain bigger microphones), does the vast majority of ‘Murica give a shit?”

I assume for most people it’ll just get integrated into their worldview (probably in a warped, incorrect fashion), and otherwise apathy will continue to dominate.

87 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 9:31:30pm
88 Shiplord Kirel  May 28, 2014 9:34:29pm

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

That thought has certainly passed through my mind. The potential for a serious incident - despite all the steps taken - is quite high, at least in my estimation.

The final in Rio will be protected by the largest army (150,000+) ever assembled in South America. They will be supported by helicopters, drones, armor, and even warships. Even so, demonstrations and general lawlessness, fueled by resentment in the favelas, could turn the streets into a war zone, to say nothing of technical failures.

89 TedStriker  May 28, 2014 9:34:35pm

re: #87 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Yeah, the CTs involving the NSA and “gag orders” (among other things) are hot and heavy over on the Ars Technica story about this.

Ars Technica: “TrueCrypt is not secure,” official SourceForge page abruptly warns

90 jonhendry  May 28, 2014 9:37:59pm

Re: Sochi

Weren’t there reports that Russian officials had said, effectively, “attendee complaints about the bathrooms aren’t true, we have video that shows the supposed events didn’t happen.”?

91 simoom  May 28, 2014 9:39:26pm

re: #87 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Huh, isn’t that the same woman who was at that Hawaiian crypto party with Snowden? Didn’t realize she covered tech journalism for Forbes.

[edit: yup]

[edit2: derp. I should have read NJDhockeyfan’s linked article first. She mentions it there too :P]

92 Dr Lizardo  May 28, 2014 9:41:07pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel

The final in Rio will be protected by the largest army (150,000+) ever assembled in South America. They will be supported by helicopters, drones, armor, and even warships. Even so, demonstrations and general lawlessness, fueled by resentment in the favelas, could turn the streets into a war zone, to say nothing of technical failures.

Many years ago, I saw the film City of God, which was filmed in the favelas and used extras from the favelas as well.

It wasn’t easy for me to wrap my head around the fact that all too many people actually live like that; that is alien to my life experience, I admit. And that particular film quite nicely captured that sense of resentment in the favelas. My impression was that they’re an explosion in search of a spark.

City of God, by the way, is one film I rank among the greatest ever made.

93 Gus  May 28, 2014 9:43:54pm
94 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 9:44:29pm

re: #91 simoom

Huh, isn’t that the same woman who was at that Hawaiian crypto party with Snowden? Didn’t realize she covered tech journalism for Forbes.

I believe so. Good catch…

It was December 11, 2012, and in a small art space behind a furniture store in Honolulu, NSA contractor Edward Snowden was working to subvert the machinery of global surveillance.

Snowden was not yet famous. His blockbuster leaks were still six months away, but the man destined to confront world leaders on a global stage was addressing a much smaller audience that Sunday evening. He was leading a local “Crypto Party,” teaching less than two dozen Hawaii residents how to encrypt their hard drives and use the internet anonymously.

“He introduced himself as Ed,” says technologist and writer Runa Sandvik, who co-presented with Snowden at the event, and spoke about the experience for the first time with WIRED. “We talked for a bit before everything started. And I remember asking where he worked or what he did, and he didn’t really want to tell.”

…

95 Kid A  May 28, 2014 9:47:55pm

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

That film crushes it. If I could give you multiple up-dings for your magnificent taste, I would.

96 Floral Giraffe  May 28, 2014 9:48:52pm

re: #14 raina

Welcome, hatchling!

97 Gus  May 28, 2014 9:53:02pm
98 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 10:03:03pm

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

Many years ago, I saw the film City of God, which was filmed in the favelas and used extras from the favelas as well.

[…]

City of God, by the way, is one film I rank among the greatest ever made.

Agreed. Just reading the words “film” and “City of God” put together sends a flood of imagery from that film into my mind. City of God is a giant in film, I would hope.

99 Lidane  May 28, 2014 10:07:14pm

Re-watching The Avengers for the nth time. I can’t even count how many times I’ve watched this movie.

Still more interesting than Snowden.

100 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2014 10:08:07pm

I can’t help but wonder how much of a bonus check Williams got for that interview.

101 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 10:08:16pm

Jimmy Page & Robert Plant - Kashmir [HD] with Egyptian Orchestra

Youtube Video

102 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 10:10:36pm

re: #93 Gus

Heh! that @dankmtl fucker happens to be the FIRST TWITTER ACCOUNT I’VE EVER BLOCKED! It was probably about a year ago now, and I tweeted something that denigrated the Greenwald/Snowden alliance and he sent me like 5 or 6 tweets in the course of 10 minutes calling me all sorts of names that didn’t apply to me at all.

I wonder if I can find that Twitter exchange. Hmm…

103 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2014 10:10:45pm

re: #101 NJDhockeyfan

Jimmy Page & Robert Plant - Kashmir [HD] with Egyptian Orchestra

[Embedded content]

Aww, no Puff Daddy?

/

(PLEASE don’t run me off the blog for that…)

104 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 10:11:55pm

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

Aww, no Puff Daddy?

/

(PLEASE don’t run me off the blog for that…)

Ewww

105 raina  May 28, 2014 10:13:51pm

re: #96 Floral Giraffe

hey thanks, and everyone else too.

106 NJDhockeyfan  May 28, 2014 10:14:07pm

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

This is Jimmy Page in the wayback machine…

Jimmy Page 1957

Youtube Video

107 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 10:14:20pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

Heh! that @dankmtl fucker happens to be the FIRST TWITTER ACCOUNT I’VE EVER BLOCKED! It was probably about a year ago now, and I tweeted something that denigrated the Greenwald/Snowden alliance and he sent me like 5 or 6 tweets in the course of 10 minutes calling me all sorts of names that didn’t apply to me at all.

I wonder if I can find that Twitter exchange. Hmm…

Here it is! Just click on the time-stamp.

108 simoom  May 28, 2014 10:14:40pm

re: #94 NJDhockeyfan

Matthew Green (cryptographer and research professor at the Johns Hopkins University Information Security Institute):

krebsonsecurity.com

“I think the TrueCrypt team did this,” Green said in a phone interview. “They decided to quit and this is their signature way of doing it.”

Green last year helped spearhead dual crowdfunding efforts to raise money for a full-scale, professional security audit of the software. That effort ended up pulling in more than $70,000 (after counting the numerous Bitcoin donations) — far exceeding the campaign’s goal and demonstrating strong interest and support from the user community. Earlier this year, security firm iSec Partners completed the first component of the code review: an analysis of TrueCrypt’s bootloader (PDF).

Green said he’s disappointed that the TrueCrypt team ended things as abruptly as they did, and that he hopes that a volunteer group of programmers can be brought together to continue development of the TrueCrypt code. That could be a dicey endeavor given the license that ships with TrueCrypt, which Green says leaves murky and unanswered the question of whether users have the right to modify and use the code in other projects.

“There are a lot of things they could have done to make it easier for people to take over this code, including fixing the licensing situation,” Green said. “But maybe what they did today makes that impossible. They set the whole thing on fire, and now maybe nobody is going to trust it because they’ll think there’s some big evil vulnerability in the code.”

Green acknowledged feeling conflicted about today’s turn of events, and that he initially began the project thinking TrueCrypt was “really dangerous.”

“Today’s events notwithstanding, I was starting to have warm and fuzzy feelings about the code, thinking [the developers] were just nice guys who didn’t want their names out there,” Green said. “But now this decision makes me feel like they’re kind of unreliable. Also, I’m a little worried that the fact the we were doing an audit of the crypto might have made them decide to call it quits.”

From his partial audit (this seems to relate to today’s warning message):

109 Gus  May 28, 2014 10:15:14pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

Here it is!

[Embedded content]

I have that asshole blocked too. Along with that nutcase libertarian @aheram.

110 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2014 10:20:00pm

I don’t think I’ve ever been as uninterested or frustrated in an election campaign as I am with the current primary campaigns in Mississippi.

In the House race you have our current Representative Steven Palazzo who practically claimed to be a true blood Tea Partier to get elected in 2010 only to dash considerably to the center after he got to Washington.

His opponent is former congressman Gene Taylor who spent a number of terms in Washington as a Democrat. Taylor has now switched to the GOP to take on Palazzo in this rematch but I haven’t seen much of anything from his campaign.

Palazzo’s campaign has been running ads touting the fact that when “Obama locked the Veterans out of the War Memorial”, Steven was one of the guys who stormed the gates to let them back in. They also tout the fact that he “voted against Obamacare 100 times”.

Taylor challenged Palazzo to a debate, but never got a response.

On the senate side we have long time Senator Thad Cochran going up against Tea Party darling and current MS State Senator Chris McDaniel.

McDaniel’s campaign has been busy painting Cochran as a bleeding heart, best friend of Obama liberal commie punk. Also , McDaniel is encouraging people to send him to Washington to “stop Obamacare” (aren’t we a little late to this party?).

Cochran’s campaign has been running ads against McDaniel calling him a lazy two face people pleaser who takes whatever position suits him at the time (I wonder if he learned that from Mitt Romney) and calling reference to the person who snuck into the nursing home to take and subsequently upload video of Cochran’s ill wife.

Cochran and McDaniel have ALSO refused to debate each other.

Since the Democratic party is practically non existent down here all the media attention is on the GOP races.

But you have four people hurling mud at each other and little else. No one will man up and debate, no one bothers to campaign on a platform. It’s not “vote for me and this is what I will do”, it’s “Don’t vote for the other guy, he sucks!”

Not that this is anything new to politics but I do find it a mite depressing.

I can’t vote yet (hopefully I will be a citizen next year so I will be eligible in 2016) but even if I could I don’t think I’d cast a ballot for any one of these yahoos.

111 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2014 10:21:00pm

re: #108 simoom

krebsonsecurity is one of the best sites on the web. That guy does great work.

112 Eclectic Cyborg  May 28, 2014 10:31:04pm

This is BEYOND AWESOME:

LeVar Burton starts Kickstarter campaign to bring back Reading Rainbow

He’s already at 150% of goal!

113 Gus  May 28, 2014 10:36:25pm
114 piratedan  May 28, 2014 10:37:27pm

well Ed, glad you can sleep at night now that you’ve soothed your conscience by betraying your country. It would be nice if there was some actual proof of wrongdoing that could justify your actions, but I guess you can’t have everything…..

115 Gus  May 28, 2014 10:44:26pm
116 Gus  May 28, 2014 10:53:02pm
117 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:02:22pm

re: #116 Gus

That would’ve been me smashing his knee on the fire plug.

118 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:03:51pm

Judge who stopped Wisconsin campaign finance probe tied to Koch-funded junkets

The federal judge who ordered an end to an investigation into possible illegal campaign coordination between Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and conservative groups during two recent recall elections regularly attended expenses-paid judicial conferences sponsored by conservative organizations including the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation — groups that have funded efforts against campaign finance reform.

119 Gus  May 28, 2014 11:04:07pm

re: #117 Amory Blaine

That would’ve been me smashing his knee on the fire plug.

Hmm. That link didn’t work. Here.

120 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:06:09pm

re: #119 Gus

Link no work.

121 Gus  May 28, 2014 11:06:48pm

re: #120 Amory Blaine

Link no work.

Yeah. Got weird. Edited. littlegreenfootballs.com

122 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:06:55pm

re: #117 Amory Blaine

Worth it BTW.

123 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:08:51pm

124 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:12:11pm

re: #119 Gus

IDK if you’ve seen any of this.

Report: Scott Walker may be cutting deal in secret John Doe probe

125 Gus  May 28, 2014 11:14:20pm

re: #124 Amory Blaine

IDK if you’ve seen any of this.

Report: Scott Walker may be cutting deal in secret John Doe probe

First I heard of it. That’s been one strange governorship. He’s such a major asshole.

126 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:16:51pm

Shit really is falling apart here in Wisconsin.

127 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:20:16pm

re: #116 Gus

128 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:29:54pm

129 teleskiguy  May 28, 2014 11:32:38pm

re: #116 Gus

This same Twitter account misattributed George Carlin not too long ago. I pointed it out to his daughter.

130 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 11:37:42pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

This is BEYOND AWESOME:

LeVar Burton starts Kickstarter campaign to bring back Reading Rainbow

He’s already at 150% of goal!

Heh, was just about to post that.
Go La Forge!

131 Gus  May 28, 2014 11:38:54pm

re: #130 Varek Raith

Heh, was just about to post that.
Go La Forge!

I used to watch the first half of Reading Rainbow just to listen to Levar Burton at the time.

132 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 11:39:20pm

re: #131 Gus

I used to watch the first half of Reading Rainbow just to listen to Levar Burton at the time.

The man is awesome.

133 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 11:43:26pm

Reached their goal in just 11 hours.

134 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:44:38pm

Bookmobile

135 Gus  May 28, 2014 11:48:30pm

Biggest news!

136 Amory Blaine  May 28, 2014 11:49:58pm

The new Frontline is must see.

137 jonhendry  May 28, 2014 11:51:32pm

re: #135 Gus

Let me guess. The “multiple sources” are Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras?

138 Varek Raith  May 28, 2014 11:52:36pm

re: #135 Gus

Even if true, one email is weaksauce.

139 Gus  May 28, 2014 11:58:33pm

A bold move by Snowden!

Weak sauce.

140 Gus  May 29, 2014 12:04:54am
141 Gus  May 29, 2014 12:39:27am

Went through that section again. More accurate.

To end up stuck in a place where those rights are are being challenged in ways that I would consider deeply unfair. The recent bloggers registration law in Russia I, I can’t think I’ve any basis for a law like that. Not just in Russia but in any country. The government shouldn’t be regulating the operations of a free press, whether it’s NBC or whether it’s some blogger in their living room. There’s so much that needs to be defended here in Russia but I’m limited by my inability to speak Russian and so on and so forth that it’s, it’s an isolating and frustrating thing and I really hope that Russia, the United States and many other countries will work to push back against this constantly increasing surveillance against this constant erosion and abrasion of public rights.

142 Kragar  May 29, 2014 12:40:39am
143 Gus  May 29, 2014 12:44:37am

Forceful. Hahahahahaha!

144 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:06:25am
145 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:07:10am

146 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:18:54am
147 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:26:02am
148 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 1:32:21am

Snowden’s lack of Russian language skills is a pure excuse. That didn’t stop him from asking Putin a question, now, did it?

I guarantee, that if Snowden wants to tell the Russians something about Putin’s dictatorship, thousands will volunteer to translate his message. The ball is in his court.

149 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:46:27am

150 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:48:31am
151 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:52:54am

“The government sometimes has legitimate reasons for needing secrecy but ‘will usually be overprotective’ so the process of decision ‘should openly tilt in favor of publication with minimal delay,’” he wrote in his defense. “Does that sound like I’m saying that news organizations ‘should simply defer’? Do the people on the other side of this argument believe that the government never has a legitimate need for secrecy?”

152 Gus  May 29, 2014 1:54:07am

night

153 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 2:04:52am

One of the few opposition Duma deputies Ilya Ponomarev:

glavcom.ua

And you just have to understand the structure of the rebel movement in the East [Ukraine]. Once I went there, I changed my mind. I had thought that there is strong social component, the left-wing component. There’s no left-wing component there, there is a purely right-wing nationalist protest. That’s where the real fascists and nationalists, neo-Nazis are. Ours, Russian, I mean. There are activists from organizations such as the Russian National Unity, National Bolshevik Party, the Russian Liberation Movement, the Cossacks, the radical Orthodox activists. They constitute the core that has arrived.

154 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 2:18:56am

Russian antifascism: Image: BnsyJYTIQAA9ERd.jpg:large

155 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 2:26:13am

Lololol loser party:

156 freetoken  May 29, 2014 3:26:07am

MP3 Audio

157 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2014 3:37:20am

re: #130 Varek Raith

Heh, was just about to post that.
Go La Forge!

Daughter1 and her friend at last year’s book event. She’s back in NYC now for the Book Expo America.

Image: dsc_0049.jpg

lorcadamon.com

158 urbanmeemaw  May 29, 2014 4:19:52am

re: #140 Gus

[Embedded content]

Godwald in his role as “Snowbro Whisperer”.

159 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 4:27:57am

re: #108 simoom

The weaknesses in TrueCrypt sound just like those another writer noted about Snowden’s other fave app, Off the Record (OTR). I paged it here littlegreenfootballs.com

One trouble with open source software is the occasional lack of follow-through. Some projects, like Linux and its many flavors, have solid support and the dedication of its author to keep it alive. Others, like TrueCrypt and OTR, apparently depend on people with short attention spans.

160 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 4:41:28am

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi

The weaknesses in TrueCrypt sound just like those another writer noted about Snowden’s other fave app, Off the Record (OTR). I paged it here littlegreenfootballs.com

One trouble with open source software is the occasional lack of follow-through. Some projects, like Linux and its many flavors, have solid support and the dedication of its author to keep it alive. Others, like TrueCrypt and OTR, apparently depend on people with short attention spans.

This is something of a trouble with any smaller software company. I have had several applications that I really liked, only to watch them shuttered when the developer got bored or got a better-paying gig. CMS plug-ins too.

Nature of the beast, I suppose.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 4:43:37am

GACK
Glenn’s derpin’ up a storm this morning.

162 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 4:46:13am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

“Great point - the Russians have no access to NBC, and will never know he did it, so it wasn’t brave at all for him to do it.”

Oh, it was supposed to be sarcasm on Glenn’s part. I thought for 2 secs that he was finally telling it like it is.

163 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 4:46:49am

re: #160 Rev_Arthur_Belling

And then you occasionally get the rare developer who bail on a project when it becomes too successful, like that guy who wrote “Flappy Bird.”

164 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 4:47:51am

OK, let’s cut Snowden some slack: why doesn’t Greenwald say smth about Putin? He’s not stranded in Russia, he’s free to say anything.

165 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 4:48:53am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

Godwald seems very afraid of the American justice system, so afraid that he himself avoided entering the country to pick up some award or something.

Wait. What?

166 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 4:49:10am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

Yes, it’s so “easy” to go on global television and criticize the one government standing between you and a life-long prison cell.

So, basically GG just admitted that Snowden’s likely to be found guilty of violating U.S. law?

167 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 4:51:10am

re: #166 Rev_Arthur_Belling

So, basically GG just admitted that Snowden’s likely to be found guilty of violating U.S. law?

He even confessed to committing multiple crimes right there on the teevee.

168 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2014 4:58:19am

Let the Circle Be Unbroken:

The University of Central Florida seems to be supporting ‘alternative education’ by investing indirectly in two of the worst private youth prison corporations. You know, for Floridians who couldn’t make The Cut.

change.org

(Dream Defenders is an NAACP student outreach, raising hell in Tallahassee since the Trayvon Martin killing.)

169 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 5:14:23am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel

We are doomed because our people are too ignorant to survive. They actually, honestly believe that it is immoral and undemocratic for our government to have secrets and we are uniquely evil in the world in this respect.
Without wanting to give anyone ideas, there are certain types of security (ie secrecy) failures that could kill not thousands but millions of people. With a whole nihilistic industry of conspiraliars, hackers and traitors working night and day to destroy every form of secrecy, the chance of that kind of failure grows by the day. Where will these bastards and their fake morality be then?

You’ve come closest to the truth yet.

Snowden doesn’t know anything about the world at large, just his own which began with gaming and an online forum, and it’s his own form of dismantling the work of those who came before him, “breaking it” by hackery and theft, and using encryption for secrecy of his ill gotten gains. You will note that his only “higher” education was centered around this. As a high school dropout, he didn’t particularly care about the humanities, social sciences, or anything that he didn’t think had any bearing on his own goals.

He grew up as a child in a technological wonderland at which he spent inordinate amounts of time figuring out how to bypass codes for his own benefit in an early acceptance of cynical entitlement—that is, steal some one else’s intellectual product and modify it for your own gain. This is the early, crude form of libertarianism, a philosophy in which you never actually grow, either intellectually or emotionally, although a few can fake it to a degree.

If Snowden-like creatures really are the future, we absolutely are fucked as a species.

170 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 5:24:36am
171 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 5:29:37am

re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Yet EE probably would not have wanted Maya Angelou as a neighbor or, dare I say it, a girlfriend.

I don’t think he learned much; he was simply entertained. His politics cheapen his “appreciation” for her art.

172 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 5:31:00am

re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord

Note that Erick twice pushes his political agenda (“She chose life”) in his memoriam. Honestly, I don’t think I could ever be friends with, or have more than a passing acquaintance with, that douchetastic gasbag, given all the odious things he’s said and written over the years.

Nice that you found meaning in “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings,” E. Too bad it had no effect on your politics.

173 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 5:32:24am

re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Just to remind us that there is a bit of a decent human being even in the likes of EE. Too bad he works hard to bury that bit.

174 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 5:36:35am
175 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 5:40:29am

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

“Olexander Turchynov said the rebels used a Russian-made anti-aircraft system, and a senior general was among the dead.”

And the Russians aren’t involved? ///

176 Flounder  May 29, 2014 5:41:23am

GDP should be out at 8:30 am this morning. Damn pesky cold weather!!!

177 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 5:43:06am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

Those were just peaceful citizens and children that operated this system. Ukrainian fascists, hands off!!//

Apropos.

178 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 5:43:42am
179 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 5:48:52am

There is a meme that is getting spammed all over Teh Twitters, that Obama is taking moneys FROM ARE HERO VETERANS and giving it to TEH ILLEGAL ALIENS.

I am pretty sure that one thing has nothing to do with the other but where are they getting this shit from?

180 William Barnett-Lewis  May 29, 2014 5:49:12am

re: #172 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Note that Erick twice pushes his political agenda (“She chose life”) in his memoriam. Honestly, I don’t think I could ever be friends with, or have more than a passing acquaintance with, that douchetastic gasbag, given all the odious things he’s said and written over the years.

Nice that you found meaning in “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings,” E. Too bad it had no effect on your politics.

Though I happen to appreciate this comment as well, I think the only thing EE likes about her was that & the fact she was a gun owner. In a recent interview she said she likes having guns around and used a gun to defend her house, twice I think. Being pushed by NRO & the right that pretends to not be extremists. Anyway, the video is here:
content.time.com

181 William Barnett-Lewis  May 29, 2014 5:50:54am

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

There is a meme that is getting spammed all over Teh Twitters, that Obama is taking moneys FROM ARE HERO VETERANS and giving it to TEH ILLEGAL ALIENS.

I am pretty sure that one thing has nothing to do with the other but where are they getting this shit from?

Considering the rat bastards in the house & senate are standing in the way of the VA appropriations? I despise ever one of them who claims to love and support the troops but then expects to be able to piss on the backs of veterans and tell them it’s raining.

182 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 5:52:10am

HURR HURR BUT NO FREE BIRTH CONTROLS FOR TEH SLUTZ!!!!!!!

183 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 5:52:57am

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

There is a meme that is getting spammed all over Teh Twitters, that Obama is taking moneys FROM ARE HERO VETERANS and giving it to TEH ILLEGAL ALIENS.

I am pretty sure that one thing has nothing to do with the other but where are they getting this shit from?

FROM ARE WHITE HERO VETERANS

FTFY, giving the reason.

184 MomSense  May 29, 2014 5:56:41am

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

where are they getting this shit from?

The usual place shit comes from!

186 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 5:59:08am

Some trouble in Donetsk right now. A pro-Russian group showed up to take over another pro-Russian group’s building…

Crips vs Bloods

187 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 5:59:52am

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

There is a meme that is getting spammed all over Teh Twitters, that Obama is taking moneys FROM ARE HERO VETERANS and giving it to TEH ILLEGAL ALIENS.

I am pretty sure that one thing has nothing to do with the other but where are they getting this shit from?

Where does shit come from? That is where they are getting it.

(Sorry to be crude so early)

Edit…I see MomSense already went there. I don’t feel bad about the timing now!

188 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 5:59:54am

THIS EXPLAINS WHY EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD STOPPED HAVING CHILDREN AFTER 2001!!!!!!!

189 b.d.  May 29, 2014 6:00:29am

Another opportunity for Snowden to appeal his case directly to the American people wasted by the fact that he is an unappealing, pompous, know-it-all douchebag.

Whiffle ball, Nerf Ball, you still only get three strikes.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 6:00:31am

re: #184 MomSense

The usual place shit comes from!

re: #187 ObserverArt

Where does shit come from? That is where they are getting it.

(Sorry to be crude so early)

You’re right.

191 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 6:02:29am
192 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 6:04:17am

re: #186 NJDhockeyfan

Insert obligatory “Judean People’s Front” jokes.

193 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 6:05:35am

re: #192 Ian G.

Insert obligatory “Judean People’s Front” jokes.

Yep……these fools will turn on each other in their jockeying for power.

Zero fucks given.

194 b.d.  May 29, 2014 6:07:33am

All you really need to know about how successful Snowden’s interview last night was is to look at DailyKos’ recommended list.

The top story is about how horrible John Kerry is.

Nothingburger.

195 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 6:08:16am

BBL

196 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 6:09:13am

re: #188 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS EXPLAINS WHY EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD STOPPED HAVING CHILDREN AFTER 2001!!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

I’d also love to have been present at the board meeting where that decision was made.

“Dr. Jones, you’re telling us that you can sterilize the whole human race within two generations?”

“Yes, boss, we’ve isolated the genes, we’re going to splice them into corn, and then our puppets in Congress will mandate that everyone consume it.”

“Excellent! Our shareholders will be delighted to see our customer base shrink from 1 billion+ to 500,000 over the next 50 years. Our earnings per share will double with a rapidly dwindling customer base. You’re owed a bonus and a promotion.”

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

197 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2014 6:09:24am

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Gee, if they’d had one of those at the Bundy ranch…

198 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 6:11:04am
199 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:12:19am

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

They bagged a general? Hmmm, maybe somebody’s feeding them intel. It would be one hell of a lucky shot.

200 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 6:12:41am

re: #188 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS EXPLAINS WHY EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD STOPPED HAVING CHILDREN AFTER 2001!!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Hahaha, this is where that came from, a site that considers its pathetic self the center of Conspiracy World.

asheepnomore.net

It ain’t nothin’ but disinformation, doncha know.

201 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:13:53am

re: #194 b.d.

All you really need to know about how successful Snowden’s interview last night was is to look at DailyKos’ recommended list.

The top story is about how horrible John Kerry is.

Nothingburger.

Just imagine the hysterics if there was a Republican in the White House.

202 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 6:14:29am

See here’s the thing. When a poor person complains about inequality the wingnuts are all HURR HURR U HAVE MINIMUM SKILLZ & MINIMUM EDUCATION & MINIMUM VALUE & MINIMUM MOTIVATION & UR PAID WHAT UR WORTH!!!!! and when a rich person (who has actual influence) complains about inequality the wingnuts are all HURR HURR BUT U HAVE MILLIONZ!!!!!!!

203 darthstar  May 29, 2014 6:14:36am
204 MomSense  May 29, 2014 6:15:44am

re: #187 ObserverArt

Great minds? Gutter minds?

205 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 6:16:01am

Koch Brothers really, really want to destroy the Import/Export Bank. Why?

206 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:16:06am

re: #194 b.d.

All you really need to know about how successful Snowden’s interview last night was is to look at DailyKos’ recommended list.

The top story is about how horrible John Kerry is.

Nothingburger.

…and the Dkos title “from Russia with love” I don’t think is intentional Irony.

207 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 6:16:58am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Just imagine the hysterics if there was a Republican in the White House.

Remember the hysterics when the Bush administration was listening to overseas phone calls?

208 b.d.  May 29, 2014 6:17:25am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Just imagine the hysterics if there was a Republican in the White House.

I’m convinced that most of the sane democrats have stopped posting at that site and now it is a haven for lazy morons who hate all politicians and most things in life in general.

209 GunstarGreen  May 29, 2014 6:17:48am

re: #182 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR BUT NO FREE BIRTH CONTROLS FOR TEH SLUTZ!!!!!!!

[Embedded content]

“Don’t have any more kids, but fuck you if you expect us to do anything along the lines of helping you not have any more kids.”

210 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 6:17:49am

re: #203 darthstar

This is one of the weirdest aspects of this whole case to me. Ostensibly, GG is acting as a “journalist,” but one of the tenets of responsible journalism is that a journalist doesn’t “handle” a source. The NY Times didn’t “handle” Daniel Ellsberg. Woodstein didn’t “handle” Deep Throat.

A journalist is not an agent, a lawyer, or a spiritual adviser to a source.

The relationships here are all fucked up.

211 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 6:21:53am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Just imagine the hysterics if there was a Republican in the White House.

What, the conservatives and their media machine don’t generate enough hysterics for you regarding everything Obama?

212 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 6:21:56am

They’re going nutz over at GG’s twitter acct, citing every source from a Jezebel accusation of misogyny against John Kerry for his “man up” comment about Snowden, to quoting former Bush officials.

Children playing in their sandbox of choice.

213 b.d.  May 29, 2014 6:23:18am

re: #207 NJDhockeyfan

Remember the hysterics when the Bush administration was listening to overseas phone calls?

The canard of if a republican were doing it you would be against it is worse than stupid.

These same morons cheered when Judy Miller was thrown in jail. These same people demanded Scooter Libby be thrown in jail for leaking information to the press.

Some people’s views have changed, mine haven’t, no matter the cast.

214 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:23:47am

re: #208 b.d.

I’m convinced that most of the sane democrats have stopped posting at that site and now it is a haven for lazy morons who hate all politicians and most things in life in general.

Yes, there’s always been a difference between meat world voters and partisan internet activists. Even look at cable news ratings. Very few Dems actually watch MSNBC and very few Republicans watch Fox. Most real world voters are busy doing other things.

215 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 6:24:49am

Nothing unusual there. Must have gotten them on sale at Bazookas-R-Us down the street.

217 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 6:28:59am
218 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:30:52am

Iran link to social media spying on military leaders

US Navy admirals, politicians, ambassadors and lobbyists, as well as senior government and military figures from the UK, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, were all targeted, said iSight.

“If it’s been going on for so long, clearly they have had success,” said Tiffany Jones, a spokeswoman for iSight, told Reuters.

In total, said the report, fake personas for 14 people were created and maintained on a variety of social media sites, including Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+, YouTube and Blogger. The bogus identities were for staff who supposedly worked for a fictitious news agency as well as defence workers, an accountant and a naval IT administrator.

Friends, relatives, workmates and acquaintances of targets were initially contacted via social media to establish ties that were later used to lend more credibility to requests to connect to the true targets of the campaign.

About 2,000 people were used to establish these lower-level ties, which were used to go after a smaller group of about 200 higher-profile individuals.

219 Lidane  May 29, 2014 6:34:06am

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

Wait, you mean that’s not one of the open carry idiots here in Texas?

///////////

220 darthstar  May 29, 2014 6:35:03am

re: #215 NJDhockeyfan

Is there an Applebee’s near by?

221 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 6:36:57am

re: #210 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This is one of the weirdest aspects of this whole case to me. Ostensibly, GG is acting as a “journalist,” but one of the tenets of responsible journalism is that a journalist doesn’t “handle” a source. The NY Times didn’t “handle” Daniel Ellsberg. Woodstein didn’t “handle” Deep Throat.

A journalist is not an agent, a lawyer, or a spiritual adviser to a source.

The relationships here are all fucked up.

But GG is not a traditional journalist. He’s the face of “new” journalism!
// :p

222 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 6:38:34am

re: #217 Dr. Matt

Brian Williams has a “I went to Russia to interview Snowden, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt” T-shirt.
//

223 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 6:38:47am

re: #210 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This is one of the weirdest aspects of this whole case to me. Ostensibly, GG is acting as a “journalist,” but one of the tenets of responsible journalism is that a journalist doesn’t “handle” a source. The NY Times didn’t “handle” Daniel Ellsberg. Woodstein didn’t “handle” Deep Throat.

A journalist is not an agent, a lawyer, or a spiritual adviser to a source.

The relationships here are all fucked up.

GG is a control freak, no doubt. Does David Miranda realize this yet after his brush with the real law?

224 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 6:43:38am

The VA scandal is exploding right now. Both sides are getting disgusted by what they are finding out and I have a feeling it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

NPR:

Floodgates open as Democrats join Republicans in calls for Shinseki’s resignation

Demands for Shinseki to resign reach fever pitch: Calls for Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki to step down grew louder on Capitol Hill Wednesday following the release of an inspector general report that determined agency officials at a facility in Phoenix had manipulated scheduling records to hide long wait times for former service members. The investigation found that the average wait time for a veteran seeking an initial appointment at the Phoenix VA hospital was 115 days, while the average wait time reported to the department was 24 days. The interim report also determined that the scheduling practices at the Phoenix facility “are a systemic problem nationwide.” The findings opened the floodgates on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers in both parties issued statements calling for Shinseki’s ouster. The Democrats pushing for Shinseki’s dismissal included Sens. Mark Udall of Colorado, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, John Walsh of Montana, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire and Al Franken of Minnesota. All five are running for re-election this fall, with Udall, Hagan and Walsh facing tough contests. Democratic Reps. Bruce Braley of Iowa, Scott Peters of California and Ron Barber of Arizona also called on Shinseki to resign. Braley is running for the Senate, while Peters and Barber have difficult re-election races on their hands.

225 Targetpractice  May 29, 2014 6:47:04am

re: #224 NJDhockeyfan

The VA scandal is exploding right now. Both sides are getting disgusted by what they are finding out and I have a feeling it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

NPR:

Floodgates open as Democrats join Republicans in calls for Shinseki’s resignation

Gee, I wish people had been this outraged when the VA’s budget was put under the knife again and again. At least a dozen bills aimed at helping veterans have been filibustered to death, but you don’t hear about them much because the GOP has been too busy ranting and raving about “EXPLODING DEFICITS!!”

226 darthstar  May 29, 2014 6:48:13am
227 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 6:49:51am

re: #224 NJDhockeyfan

It’s a bunch of BS. A dog and pony show since the real tragedy is Congress refusing to properly fund the VA. And compared to private hospital systems the VA surveys out as well or better in terms of service.

Yes, there are issues in Phoenix. But it’s more isolated in scope than a massive system-wide scandal. Perhaps Shinseki should step down by taking responsibility for being in charge of the system. But Congressmen like McCain, etc. yelling for it is the highest form of hypocrisy since they have never taken the same level of responsibility themselves for anything.

Have you gone over and read the Stonekettle Station blog post on this yet? Worth the read.

228 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 6:50:34am
229 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 6:52:28am

darthstar

Greenwald: “Brian Williams is a fawning, subservient hagiographer to those who give him access.”
t.co

He’s also an authoritarian loving, croc-wearing, lickspittle. //

230 b.d.  May 29, 2014 6:53:16am

Greenwald sitting back tweeting up a storm while The Intercept is sitting at 7 posts for the entire month of May. That’s counting a post for job openings and one announcing a live blog.

Thanks Pierre!

231 Lidane  May 29, 2014 6:54:25am
232 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:56:51am

re: #228 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

Reports of Putin backing down were premature

233 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 6:58:28am

Boko Haram kills 35 in attacks on Nigeria villages

Dozens of Boko Haram gunmen dressed in military uniform stormed Gumushi, Amuda and Arbokko in all-terrain trucks and motorcycles, opening fire on residents and torching homes with petrol bombs, they said.

“Boko Haram attacked the three villages Wednesday morning in which 35 people were killed, including 26 in Gumushi,” a military officer in the state capital Maiduguri told AFP on condition of anonymity.

“The insurgents hurled petrol bombs into homes, setting them ablaze and shot residents as they tried to escape,” he said.

He said the gunmen raided Gumushi around 6:00 am (0500 GMT) where they killed 26 residents.

Local media however put the death toll in Gumushi at 42.

234 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 6:58:51am

b.d.

Greenwald sitting back tweeting up a storm while The Intercept is sitting at 7 posts for the entire month of May. That’s counting a post for job openings and one announcing a live blog.

Obviously you have not understanding of the workings of the NEW JOURNALISM that is taking the world by storm and all the in depth investigative journalism that is happening behind the scenes that will bring the NSA and CIA and America to their knees

235 b.d.  May 29, 2014 6:59:01am

re: #232 Killgore Trout

Reports of Putin backing down were premature

Putin probably feels a need to reassert himself on the world stage after that horrific public chastising Snowden gave him last night.

//

236 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 7:00:25am

re: #225 Targetpractice

Gee, I wish people had been this outraged when the VA’s budget was put under the knife again and again. At least a dozen bills aimed at helping veterans have been filibustered to death, but you don’t hear about them much because the GOP has been too busy ranting and raving about “EXPLODING DEFICITS!!”

Exactly. This strikes me as Congressional theater at its worse. Where the hell were these people when the VA’s budget was being cut when officials of a certain party were demanding cuts to “entitlements.”

237 urbanmeemaw  May 29, 2014 7:00:34am

re: #217 Dr. Matt

How about a giant Snowden Head “Snow Globe”?

238 urbanmeemaw  May 29, 2014 7:01:13am

re: #226 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Well, Greenwald and I agree on one thing.

239 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 7:01:54am

re: #227 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s a bunch of BS. A dog and pony show since the real tragedy is Congress refusing to properly fund the VA. And compared to private hospital systems the VA surveys out as well or better in terms of service.

Yes, there are issues in Phoenix. But it’s more isolated in scope than a massive system-wide scandal. Perhaps Shinseki should step down by taking responsibility for being in charge of the system. But Congressmen like McCain, etc. yelling for it is the highest form of hypocrisy since they have never taken the same level of responsibility themselves for anything.

Have you gone over and read the Stonekettle Station blog post on this yet? Worth the read.

McCain taking responsibility for himself and his actions will never happen since he’s one of the biggest grand standing jerks in that body.

240 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 7:02:03am
241 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 7:02:49am

re: #235 b.d.

Putin probably feels a need to reassert himself on the world stage after that horrific public chastising Snowden gave him last night.

//

Putin should reassert his authority and direct the FSB to deliver Snowden to the US embassy.

242 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 7:03:09am

Unsurprisingly David Frum is not impressed
Obama at West Point: A Foreign Policy of False Choices

The president says he’s steering a sensible course between uber-hawks and do-nothings. Don’t believe it.

243 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 7:03:09am

CNN just now:

A U.S. Navy official says the pings at the center of the search for the past seven weeks are no longer believed to be from the plane’s black boxes.

Oh.

cnn.com

244 urbanmeemaw  May 29, 2014 7:03:11am

re: #234 Bulworth

YES! “New Journalismizing is HARRRRRRD!!!”

245 b.d.  May 29, 2014 7:05:44am

re: #243 Bulworth

CNN just now:

Oh.

cnn.com

So they were other random naturally occurring pings or a case of hearing things that aren’t there like those people who record ghosts talking?

246 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:06:21am

re: #231 Lidane

[Embedded content]

If a girl wears a buttoned down shirt and khaki pants, is that considered “cross dressing”? ////

247 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 7:06:54am

Conservative Senator: Gay Marriage Will Become Law Of The Land

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch conceded Wednesday it’s only a matter of time before gay marriage is legal across the country, even though he doesn’t think that’s the right way to go.

Hatch said people who can’t see what’s happening aren’t living in the real world. He made the remarks during an appearance on KSL-Radio’s Doug Wright Show (bit.ly).

“Let’s face it: anybody who does not believe that gay marriage is going to be the law of the land just hasn’t been observing what’s going on,” said Hatch, a seven-term Republican senator who has been a proponent of keeping marriage exclusively between a man and a woman.

248 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 7:08:12am

re: #247 Dr. Matt

Conservative Senator: Gay Marriage Will Become Law Of The Land

[Embedded image]

AND ALL TEH CHRISTIAN MARRIAGES WILL BE BANNED & EVERYBODY WILL BE FORCED 2 GAY-MARRY A ILLEGAL ALIEN AFTER THEY TAKE AWAY ALL TEH GUNZ!!!!!!

249 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 7:09:35am

re: #245 b.d.

So they were other random naturally occurring pings or a case of hearing things that aren’t there like those people who record ghosts talking?

Or fish?

Fish go ‘ping’ in the deep

250 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 7:09:43am

re: #247 Dr. Matt

Conservative Senator: Gay Marriage Will Become Law Of The Land

[Embedded image]

Well I guess that”s “progress.” Real progress would be Hatch saying this and telling his fellow Republicans to start treating gay people like human beings but that’s too much to ask from these primitive dicks.

251 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 7:11:07am

Dr. Matt:

Conservative Senator: Gay Marriage Will Become Law Of The Land

Shoving teh gay marriage down are throateses!!1

252 MomSense  May 29, 2014 7:11:37am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I have been wondering if McCain’s constituent services staffers received any calls or letters from Veterans or their families about the delay times. If so, did he report the problems?

253 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 7:11:41am

re: #245 b.d.

So they were other random naturally occurring pings or a case of hearing things that aren’t there like those people who record ghosts talking?

Maybe the UK lost a medical machine or two down there.
;)

254 b.d.  May 29, 2014 7:12:04am

re: #249 NJDhockeyfan

Or fish?

Fish go ‘ping’ in the deep

No, sorry. I am choosing not to believe science on this story, it’s a perfectly acceptable practice these days.

//

255 blueraven  May 29, 2014 7:12:13am

re: #228 NJDhockeyfan

This person has posted this tweet multiple times. Where is he getting his info, I wonder? I cant find it anywhere else.

256 Varek Raith  May 29, 2014 7:12:21am

re: #245 b.d.

So they were other random naturally occurring pings or a case of hearing things that aren’t there like those people who record ghosts talking?

Illegal fishing nets.

257 Lidane  May 29, 2014 7:13:00am

re: #247 Dr. Matt

Conservative Senator: Gay Marriage Will Become Law Of The Land

Orrin Hatch, Memorial Day 2014:

“If SCOTUS rules against Hobby Lobby I’ll push to amend the Constitution!”

Orrin Hatch, May 28th:

“Sooner or later gay marriage is probably going to be approved by the Supreme Court of the United States, and certainly as the people in this country move toward it, especially young people,” Hatch said. “I don’t think that’s the right way to go, on the other hand, I do accept whatever the courts have to say.”

258 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 7:13:32am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Well I guess that”s “progress.” Real progress would be Hatch saying this and telling his fellow Republicans to start treating gay people like human beings but that’s too much to ask from these primitive dicks.

That would be paramount to admitting to being wrong. So, instead, we get the political equivalent of a childish tantrum as he is being forced to face reality.

Also setting the groundwork for switching to another subject since this one is becoming an obviously losing proposition.

259 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 7:13:44am

I was checking for “trojan horse” updates….
Teacher at ‘Trojan Horse’ school charged over extreme porn

A while ago the UK passed some wierd law against bondage and simulated rape porn, not sure how many prosecutions or how the law has been applied so far. Like with the UK’s hatespeech prosecutions, the press is very hesitant to tell the public about the specific nature of the offense. Makes it very difficult to judge if this is an over reach by prosecutors or a valid charge.

260 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 7:17:22am

Pie-onist Overlord
Hillary whines about “cancer of inequality” while pulling down $5M in speeches
t.co
— Ben Shapiro

—-

If ur poor lazy moocher or wealthy U can’t complain about inequality ur argument=invalidated!!11

261 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 7:20:11am

Dr. Matt

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch conceded Wednesday it’s only a matter of time before gay marriage is legal across the country

Can someone do a welfare check on the National Organization for against Marriage (NOM)?

/

262 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:21:30am

It’s pretty obvious the Russians are now directing things in Donetsk.

263 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 7:23:38am

Wingnuts are trying to swarm the #YesAllWomen hashtag by spamming gun-fucking memes.

264 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:25:37am

They say the weather fairies are going to be kind today. In my part of the world anyway.

But Mother Nature has other ideas:

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 05/29/2014

*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
*********************************
Trees: High Concentration
Weeds: High Concentration
Grass: High Concentration
Mold: Moderate Concentration

you?

265 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:25:59am

re: #263 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are trying to swarm the #YesAllWomen hashtag by spamming gun-fucking memes.

I thought that hashtag was over.

266 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:26:58am

re: #261 Bulworth

Dr. Matt

Can someone do a welfare check on the National Organization for against Marriage (NOM)?

/

See my post to Randall’s Page.

267 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 7:27:49am

re: #264 FemNaziBitch

They say the weather fairies are going to be kind today. In my part of the world anyway.

But Mother Nature has other ideas:

you?

No rain today. Cloudy and around 60F out. Sort of like early spring. A relatively mild allergy day since the rain yesterday cleared the pollen and dust out temporarily.

268 lawhawk  May 29, 2014 7:29:23am

re: #257 Lidane

Those positions aren’t inconsistent. He could push for a constitutional amendment (which has a near zero chance of success) if the outcome of Hobby Lobby isn’t to his liking, but it also recognizes that society and culture are moving towards acceptance of gay marriage and that he and the rest of the GOP/socon crowd are on the outside looking in (in impotent rage no less).

269 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:32:34am

Oh, shit!

Glass enclosure on Chicago’s Willis Tower Skydeck ledge reportedly cracked and shattered Wednesday as family visiting was standing on it - @nbcchicago
Read more on nbcchicago.com

Get me out on something like that? No fucking way in hell.

270 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 7:32:40am

re: #255 blueraven

This person has posted this tweet multiple times. Where is he getting his info, I wonder? I cant find it anywhere else.

Found it. Here is the translation:

At a press conference in UNIAN deputy commander of the battalion “Azov” Yaroslav Gonchar.

“In general, for those that I have given to the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions illegally entered about 4.5 thousand fighters from Russia,” - he said.

“These militants - this rabble from all over the former Soviet Union”, - said Gonchar.

“The situation is such that we have unprotected border, this rabble has to cross the border of our country”, - stated the deputy battalion commander “Azov”.

271 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 7:34:36am

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

Oh, shit!

Glass enclosure on Chicago’s Willis Tower Skydeck ledge reportedly cracked and shattered Wednesday as family visiting was standing on it - @nbcchicago
Read more on nbcchicago.com

Get me out on something like that? No fucking way in hell.

THIS HAPPENED ON OBAMA’S WATCH IN HIS HOMETOWN! IMPEEACH!!!

272 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:35:26am

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

Oh, shit!

Glass enclosure on Chicago’s Willis Tower Skydeck ledge reportedly cracked and shattered Wednesday as family visiting was standing on it - @nbcchicago
Read more on nbcchicago.com

Get me out on something like that? No fucking way in hell.

I’ved tried several times at different buildings and CANNOT DO IT.

My foot just will not go onto the glass.

273 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 7:36:20am

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

Oh, shit!

Glass enclosure on Chicago’s Willis Tower Skydeck ledge reportedly cracked and shattered Wednesday as family visiting was standing on it - @nbcchicago
Read more on nbcchicago.com

Get me out on something like that? No fucking way in hell.

That’s one visit to Chicago that will never be forgotten.

274 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:36:38am

How Bee Waggle Dances Could Inform Environmental Policy

275 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 7:38:38am

re: #248 Pie-onist Overlord

AND ALL TEH CHRISTIAN MARRIAGES WILL BE BANNED & EVERYBODY WILL BE FORCED 2 GAY-MARRY A ILLEGAL ALIEN AFTER THEY TAKE AWAY ALL TEH GUNZ!!!!!!

And then sometime down the road, even the same sex marriages will be banned and everyone will need to marry their pets!

What? You don’t think so. What’s to stop it!!!!!!!!

276 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:39:39am

re: #275 ObserverArt

And then sometime down the road, even the same sex marriages will be banned and everyone will need to marry their pets!

What? You don’t think so. What’s to stop it!!!!!!!!

Unholy “family groups” will be formed with multiple husbands and wives. No child will know who his father really is because every man will be his father.

//

277 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 7:39:52am

re: #275 ObserverArt

And then sometime down the road, even the same sex marriages will be banned and everyone will need to marry their pets!

What? You don’t think so. What’s to stop it!!!!!!!!

Creepin’ Shariah Law with gay marriage.

278 b.d.  May 29, 2014 7:40:14am

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

Oh, shit!

Glass enclosure on Chicago’s Willis Tower Skydeck ledge reportedly cracked and shattered Wednesday as family visiting was standing on it - @nbcchicago
Read more on nbcchicago.com

Get me out on something like that? No fucking way in hell.

Damn low bidder.

279 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 7:42:25am

re: #252 MomSense

I have been wondering if McCain’s constituent services staffers received any calls or letters from Veterans or their families about the delay times. If so, did he report the problems?

Making too much SenseMom!

Really…how dis this all happen in McCain’s state? That really should be asked. You’d have to think Johnny-on-the-Spot would have known of this all going on being he is so concerned about the Veterans.

Especially since he always votes for increased funding.

What? Oh, wait.

280 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:43:17am

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

I’ved tried several times at different buildings and CANNOT DO IT.

My foot just will not go onto the glass.

I get vertigo just watching it in movies, on TV and such.

Once climbed all the way up at the Valley Forge tower and could not stay. And even though I’ve taken a “survival” course and rapelled off a fire tower and such, I still cannot walk over a bridge without a fear of falling.

281 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 7:44:09am

re: #253 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe the UK lost a medical machine or two down there.
;)

Big difference between a machine that goes ping and one that goes bing.

: )

282 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:44:40am

re: #227 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s a bunch of BS. A dog and pony show since the real tragedy is Congress refusing to properly fund the VA. And compared to private hospital systems the VA surveys out as well or better in terms of service.

Yes, there are issues in Phoenix. But it’s more isolated in scope than a massive system-wide scandal. Perhaps Shinseki should step down by taking responsibility for being in charge of the system. But Congressmen like McCain, etc. yelling for it is the highest form of hypocrisy since they have never taken the same level of responsibility themselves for anything.

Have you gone over and read the Stonekettle Station blog post on this yet? Worth the read.

Yeah, it was Bill Clinton.

The State Department is lucky they didn’t end up with Ambassador at Large for International Blowjobs. Though in retrospect that’s not a bad idea, because really when you think about it isn’t international diplomacy mostly about oral gratification? You want to get through to fanatical religious leaders, I’m just saying, hhhhhhmmmmm, spit, spit, and then cigars. We’d be pals with Iran in no time.

I DON’T think I’ve ever read this blog before. Thanks for mentioning it.

283 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 7:44:48am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Making too much SenseMom!

Really…how dis this all happen in McCain’s state? That really should be asked. You’d have to think Johnny-on-the-Spot would have known of this all going on being he is so concerned about the Veterans.

Especially since he always votes for increased funding.

What? Oh, wait.

You know, I may actually have less respect for McCain than I do Cruz. Hear me out, I think Cruz is a dangerous whacko and nutcase but McCain is someone who has shown the capacity to be reasonable but chooses to engage in the worst acts of political theater.

284 lawhawk  May 29, 2014 7:45:04am

re: #281 ObserverArt

Big difference between a machine that goes ping and one that goes bing.

: )

The former is an Android machine, the latter a MSFT? /

+1 for the MP reference.

285 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 7:45:17am

So, if we are all forced to have teh gay sex and tey gay marriages, will there be special FEMA instructional camps? I don’t think I would be good at being a bottom or a top in a M/M arrangement.

286 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 7:45:18am

re: #225 Targetpractice

I think what’s also not helping is that no one is telling the full story. The VA has had more funds thrown at it, BUT! that money isn’t being used properly, it’s not NEARLY enough and there are not enough VA facilities to take care of the influx of returning veterans. The population of the Phoenix metro area, just as one example, has doubled in the last 30 yrs, but they only have one big VA hospital to serve all the vets in that area (and probably beyond).

This is really an administrative issue, if what I am reading is correct. The VA and DOD are not sharing info either, which is ridiculous. Some vets are having to carry their actual paper medical files back and forth, which is also seriously sad and stupid. Most vets are happy with the standard of care they receive, it’s just getting to that care that’s the problem. Administrators are incentivized to cut corners, which is at the heart of this “new scandal”.

Meanwhile, the GOP keeps voting to cut everything for vets, from job training to housing, unemployment benefits and god knows what else. They want to break the system so they can let their paymasters at those billions of dollars, and sadly, I’m starting to see a lot of their idiot supporters agree with them. Not realizing of course that if private companies take over, then the primary loyalty will be to shareholders and executive pay and not the vets. Which is what the bastards do with every damned thing they touch.

287 Flounder  May 29, 2014 7:45:51am

GDP fell, :(

bloomberg.com

288 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:47:56am
289 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 7:48:34am
290 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 7:49:06am

I wonder if that stuff is from here.

291 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:49:55am

re: #289 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

You get hungry rebelling…

292 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:50:06am

re: #280 Justanotherhuman

I get vertigo just watching it in movies, on TV and such.

Once climbed all the way up at the Valley Forge tower and could not stay. And even though I’ve taken a “survival” course and rapelled off a fire tower and such, I still cannot walk over a bridge without a fear of falling.

Heights are a problem, generally. Just something about stepping onto something that seems like it isn’t there way, way up in the sky.

There are inborn survival traits even babies have, that is one of them. I can’t overcome it.

293 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:51:23am

re: #278 b.d.

Damn low bidder.

A spokesman for Willis Tower told the Chicago Sun Times that what cracked was a protective coating on the glass structure and not the glass itself. The spokesman said the protective coating worked exactly how it was supposed to work.

294 Lidane  May 29, 2014 7:51:34am

So Tuesday’s interview was a bust because the recruiter stupidly scheduled a call with me at 9am the day after Memorial Day weekend. Let’s see if he calls me today. He’s due in 10 minutes or so.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 7:52:56am

re: #290 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if that stuff is from here.

[Embedded content]

How much of the stuff you buy at a Walmart is from here?

296 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 7:53:21am

re: #276 FemNaziBitch

Unholy “family groups” will be formed with multiple husbands and wives. No child will know who his father really is because every man will be his father.

//

It takes a village. So, I guess you marry the entire village.

“Do you ObserverArt take this entire village to be your wedded village?”

Me: “Uh, let me think about that…”

/

297 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 7:53:45am
298 b.d.  May 29, 2014 7:54:19am

re: #293 FemNaziBitch

Press conference:

Everything worked the way it was designed to.

299 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 7:54:28am

Punk icon Exene Cervenka claims Santa Barbara shooting a ‘false flag’ government hoax

Punk singer Exene Cervenka posted a series of tweets Wednesday questioning whether the government staged last week’s mass shootings in Isla Vista, California, to enact stricter gun control laws.

Cervenka, who performed with the bands X and the Knitters, posted links to videos questioning how quickly replacement panes were delivered for glass damaged during the shooting at a convenience store where Christopher Martinez was killed.

300 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:54:52am

re: #292 FemNaziBitch

Heights are a problem, generally. Just something about stepping onto something that seems like it isn’t there way, way up in the sky.

There are inborn survival traits even babies have, that is one of them. I can’t overcome it.

And getting up there isn’t really the problem, but staying and coming down are for me. It’s kind of like that “sinking” feeling some people get on an elevator when it’s going down. When I see someone on a ledge in a movie, for instance, my feet and legs start hurting and I have to turn away to stop it. Go figure.

301 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:55:51am

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Punk icon Exene Cervenka claims Santa Barbara shooting a ‘false flag’ government hoax

Punk singer Exene Cervenka posted a series of tweets Wednesday questioning whether the government staged last week’s mass shootings in Isla Vista, California, to enact stricter gun control laws.

Cervenka, who performed with the bands X and the Knitters, posted links to videos questioning how quickly replacement panes were delivered for glass damaged during the shooting at a convenience store where Christopher Martinez was killed.

Yeah, me and the other femnazis and man-haters formed a cabal, just wait to see what we do next.

/////*spit*

302 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:55:52am

re: #297 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

They deserve each other. Maybe they’ll marry. Heh.

303 blueraven  May 29, 2014 7:56:01am

re: #270 NJDhockeyfan

Found it. Here is the translation:

translation is a bit hard to read…but is he saying 4500, in general? (meaning since the beginning)

The tweet in question makes it appear that 4500 have just now crossed the border.

304 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:56:15am

re: #300 Justanotherhuman

And getting up there isn’t really the problem, but staying and coming down are for me. It’s kind of like that “sinking” feeling some people get on an elevator when it’s going down. When I see someone on a ledge in a movie, for instance, my feet and legs start hurting and I have to turn away to stop it. Go figure.

Going down is harder regardless.

:)

305 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 7:56:22am

If you thought the Pakistan stoning story couldn’t get any worse, you were wrong. It was about money

Stoned Pakistani woman’s husband: Family demanded money to stay alive

306 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 7:56:26am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

You know, I may actually have less respect for McCain than I do Cruz. Hear me out, I think Cruz is a dangerous whacko and nutcase but McCain is someone who has shown the capacity to be reasonable but chooses to engage in the worst acts of political theater.

I’ve said it before. I once respected the hell out of the man. Now, I think he is one of the biggest asses around. He and Lindsey Graham both can rot in hell.

307 William Barnett-Lewis  May 29, 2014 7:57:25am

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Punk icon Exene Cervenka claims Santa Barbara shooting a ‘false flag’ government hoax

Punk singer Exene Cervenka posted a series of tweets Wednesday questioning whether the government staged last week’s mass shootings in Isla Vista, California, to enact stricter gun control laws.

Cervenka, who performed with the bands X and the Knitters, posted links to videos questioning how quickly replacement panes were delivered for glass damaged during the shooting at a convenience store where Christopher Martinez was killed.

Sad to see that. X was always my favorite LA band - I’ve seen them 3 times and John Does solo a couple of times.

308 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 7:57:31am

re: #280 Justanotherhuman

I get vertigo just watching it in movies, on TV and such.

Once climbed all the way up at the Valley Forge tower and could not stay. And even though I’ve taken a “survival” course and rapelled off a fire tower and such, I still cannot walk over a bridge without a fear of falling.

I can go up in small planes, look out over high ledges and out high windows, even stand on glass floors and look down 100+ stories to the ground below.

But I hate ladders. I’ll go up one to do what needs to be done, but I don’t enjoy it.

309 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 7:57:49am

re: #306 ObserverArt

I’ve said it before. I once respected the hell out of the man. Now, I think he is one of the biggest asses around. He and Lindsey Graham both can rot in hell.

It’s just more of “I got mine, fuck you.”

310 b.d.  May 29, 2014 7:57:49am

And the master throws his pet some kibble:

311 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:57:54am
312 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 7:59:43am

re: #309 Justanotherhuman

It’s just more of “I got mine, fuck you.”

I’ve come to the conclusion that John McCain put himself on the auction block and went to the highest bidder.

Lindsay — I prefer not to think of him.

313 wheat-dogghazi  May 29, 2014 8:00:06am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

I read that, and immediately wondered why Queen Elizabeth would have hitherto unheard Freddie Mercury tracks.

I think I’m tired and should go to bed.

314 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 8:00:56am

re: #294 Lidane

I hope this works out for you. This process is insane. Even for a part time retail job you have to jump through flaming hoops and perform a broadway musical. Good Luck!! I’ve got my fingers crossed for you.

My husband got his offer letter and new hire paperwork this week. All that’s left is the drug test, credit check and background check. He should be getting the info for all that stuff tomorrow.

(I swear, I was looking at his offer letter, and they have his hourly pay down to the .000 number. You multiply that number out to the full year salary and it’s 96 cents short of the yearly number. Really? )

315 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 8:02:04am

The Liberal Case for the NSA

316 Lidane  May 29, 2014 8:03:58am

re: #314 A Mom Anon

I hope this works out for you. This process is insane. Even for a part time retail job you have to jump through flaming hoops and perform a broadway musical. Good Luck!! I’ve got my fingers crossed for you.

Thanks. I point to all the process I’m going through when I get the “Why don’t you just walk in somewhere and take the first job they offer?” canard.

Usually people who say that to me haven’t been in the job market for a while. And they’re not seeing the struggle that comes with being over 40 looking for work. It’s not easy at ALL.

317 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 8:04:09am

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Punk icon Exene Cervenka claims Santa Barbara shooting a ‘false flag’ government hoax

Oh god. I liked X. Oh well.

And, I guess she is unfamiliar with franchise buildings and their maintenance crews. They probably have several panes cut and ready to go since many of the building are exactly the same or try to use the same materials as much as possible.

318 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:04:14am

re: #301 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, me and the other femnazi’s and man-haters formed a cabal, just wait to see what we do next.

/////*spit*

Well that was inevitable sigh. Wouldn’t be a tragedy without someone calling it a “false flag.”

319 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:04:36am

re: #306 ObserverArt

I’ve said it before. I once respected the hell out of the man. Now, I think he is one of the biggest asses around. He and Lindsey Graham both can rot in hell.

I did too. And I’m with you. He’s one of the biggest asses around.

320 blueraven  May 29, 2014 8:07:10am

re: #310 b.d.

And the master throws his pet some kibble:

[Embedded content]

Well the Washington Post editorial is tired and predictable. Never ending war is fine with them.

321 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 8:07:15am
322 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:08:10am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wingnut rage and demand to eliminate the NPS in 3-2-1.

323 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:09:16am

re: #199 Killgore Trout

They bagged a general? Hmmm, maybe somebody’s feeding them intel. It would be one hell of a lucky shot.

I would think all Ukrainian institutions are full of pro-Russian moles. Heck, the former SBU head (under Yanuk) is a former Russian citizen. Absurd but true.

324 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:10:57am

GWYNETH IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF YOUR MEAN TWEETS!!!!!

325 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:12:09am

wait what
voiceofrussia.com

326 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:12:22am

Sorry Gwynnie you are only the SECOND MOAST IMPORTANT THING IN TEH UNIVERSE.

327 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:12:28am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

GWYNETH IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF YOUR MEAN TWEETS!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Oh, STFU, Gwyneth. Go cleanse your bowels or something.

328 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:13:13am

I still have wounds from the first battle of facebook in 2005.

329 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:13:21am

re: #327 Justanotherhuman

Oh, STFU, Gwyneth. Go cleanse your bowels or something.

YOUR SO MEEEEEN!!!!! UR GIVING GWYNNIE TEH PTSDS!!!!!!!

330 MomSense  May 29, 2014 8:13:22am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Isn’t it frustrating that our media are so out of it?! I wish just one national reporter would ask Flake and McCain if anyone in their offices had received any complaints or questions about wait times at the VA in Phoenix. I wouldn’t mind knowing when and/or how often those Senators visited the Phoenix VA. I haven’t checked any local news sites to see if they have pursued this angle.

331 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 8:13:44am

re: #282 FemNaziBitch

I’d say that links to Jim Wright’s tweets and his blog starting popping up here six months to a year ago. I started checking the site periodically then, and also reading older postings. There seem to be 3-4 Lizards that will put up a link when something new comes out there.

He’s topical, no nonsense, anti-idiot and refreshingly blunt in an amusing way. Which seems a good fit towards what the Lizard population seems to favor.

332 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:14:08am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

I still have wounds from the first battle of facebook in 2005.

I get PTSD from the Usenet Wars of the ‘90’s.

333 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:15:04am

re: #332 Pie-onist Overlord

I get PTSD from the Usenet Wars of the ‘90’s.

Heh.

334 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:15:06am
335 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:16:21am

thedailybeast.com
Hey AnonAnon if you’re here, give it a read and post to the people you’ve brought up trying to pin Rodger’s Aspergers as being part of why he did what he did.

336 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 8:16:28am

re: #316 Lidane

Oh I know. I am 54, looking for an entry level part time retail job. After being out of the workforce to raise a family for 20 yrs. I filled out NINE applications last week. My phone isn’t ringing. Not one call. I know for a fact some of those places have had openings for months. I don’t want a corner office, I am willing to work from the bottom of the heap up the chain. It’s not the same as it used to be, I never had issues finding a job before now, EVER.

Watching what my husband has been through just to get to a lower middle management position, it’s even more crazy. I wish you all the best, it’s not at all like it used to be, it’s a clusterfuck.

337 piratedan  May 29, 2014 8:16:39am

re: #334 FemNaziBitch

well obviously it matters if the squirrel was loaded or even which end of the squirrel was used…..

338 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 8:17:05am

re: #334 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

I never realized squirrels were so sharp and stabby.

339 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:17:32am

re: #334 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Squirrels don’t kill people, people with squirrels kill people.

340 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:17:46am

re: #334 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Ah, Natasha…

341 piratedan  May 29, 2014 8:18:56am

re: #336 A Mom Anon

well it has been floated that places have been posting jobs without any real intent on filling the positions. Know that it was done at the former workplace to imply that you’ll all just have to work harder and be assured that the company is doing everything they cane to address the situation…. yada yada yada

342 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:19:25am
343 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:20:22am

This won’t turn out well (no pun intended).

Greenpeace ship arrives at the Arctic location where Norway’s Statoil is planning to drill the world’s most northerly oil well, ahead of the company’s rig which was making its way to the site - @Reuters
End of alert

344 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 8:21:33am

re: #327 Justanotherhuman

Oh, STFU, Gwyneth. Go cleanse your bowels or something.

She will. As soon as she is finished hand-picking stone ground oat particles and measuring each and every one for the proper moisture content to make some awesome oat bran muffins!

(Any wonder why lead singer dude from Cold Play and her split? And, I really do not like Cold Play either…but I felt sorry for him!)

345 nsmith25  May 29, 2014 8:21:59am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

I never realized squirrels were so sharp and stabby.

I heard he was nuts.

346 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 8:22:12am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

Isn’t Harvard’s current endowment income ahead of the GNP of a bunch of countries at this point?

347 MomSense  May 29, 2014 8:22:15am

re: #336 A Mom Anon

I meant to tell you when I saw a comment about your resume on a long ago thread that I went through the job re-entry process (yes, re-entry is a bitch!!) about 5 years ago. I separated my resume into volunteer experience and then job experience. It allowed me to put all the committees, skills, etc that I had done without being paid so they could see what kinds of things I could do. It helped a lot.

348 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:22:44am
349 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 8:23:18am

re: #323 Sergey Romanov

I would think all Ukrainian institutions are full of pro-Russian moles. Heck, the former SBU head (under Yanuk) is a former Russian citizen. Absurd but true.

Good point

350 b.d.  May 29, 2014 8:23:46am

Where was the good guy with a squirrel?

351 lawhawk  May 29, 2014 8:23:49am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

I still have wounds from the first battle of facebook in 2005.

Tis but a flesh wound. I have wounds still healing from the great MassRelay and bitnet wars of 1989. /

352 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:24:17am

re: #346 Feline Fearless Leader

Isn’t Harvard’s current endowment income ahead of the GNP of a bunch of countries at this point?

Not sure myself. I think the alum withholding funds is more ceremonial at this point. Just about any tactic to shame the Univeristies to take sexual assault seriously is welcome. JUST ABOUT.

353 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:24:35am

re: #351 lawhawk

Tis but a flesh wound. I have wounds still healing from the great MassRelay and bitnet wars of 1989. /

Lifer.

354 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:25:27am

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

wait what
voiceofrussia.com

Holy crap, their plans for world domination are coming out. : ) You’d think they were still communists or something.

355 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 8:25:50am

re: #345 nsmith25

I heard he was nuts.

Yeah, but the ones you really gotta watch for are raccoons.

356 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:26:06am
357 makeitstop  May 29, 2014 8:26:13am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

GWYNETH IS SUFFERING BECAUSE OF YOUR MEAN TWEETS!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Poor thing is probably so distraught, she can barely order the help around.
/

358 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:26:43am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but the ones you really gotta watch for are raccoons.

[Embedded image]

Racoons use squirrels that way?

359 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 8:26:51am

re: #330 MomSense

Isn’t it frustrating that our media are so out of it?! I wish just one national reporter would ask Flake and McCain if anyone in their offices had received any complaints or questions about wait times at the VA in Phoenix. I wouldn’t mind knowing when and/or how often those Senators visited the Phoenix VA. I haven’t checked any local news sites to see if they have pursued this angle.

I’ve come to the conclusion we don’t have a news media anymore. It’s all entertainment. Once there were 7 billion cable stations and millions of internet sites…hard questioning, digging for facts and really going for a story went out the window.

Everyone is in it for the advertising ratings, and since the audiences are split over so many outlets now, they can’t do anything to upset one viewer lest it hit their ratings points and kills their ad revenue.

360 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:27:19am

re: #359 ObserverArt

I’ve come to the conclusion we don’t have a news media anymore. It’s all entertainment. Once there were 7 billion cable stations and millions of internet sites…hard questioning, digging for facts and really going for a story went out the window.

Everyone is in it for the advertising ratings, and since the audiences are split over so many outlets now, they can’t do anything to upset one viewer lest it hit their ratings points and kills their ad revenue.

It’s a product that is sold.

361 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:27:48am
362 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:28:17am
363 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 8:29:05am

re: #352 FemNaziBitch

Not sure myself. I think the alum withholding funds is more ceremonial at this point. Just about any tactic to shame the Univeristies to take sexual assault seriously is welcome. JUST ABOUT.

True. Symbolic actions do have some meaning.

364 William Barnett-Lewis  May 29, 2014 8:29:14am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but the ones you really gotta watch for are raccoons.

[Embedded image]

I am _SO_ looking forward to that movie.

365 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:29:25am

A sign on a door in DonOGA: “NKVD”.

366 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 8:30:25am

As Obama Draws Down, Al Qaeda Grows in Afghanistan

American forces are headed for the exit in Afghanistan. But new U.S. intelligence assessments say that the terrorist threat there is on the rise.

367 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:30:54am

re: #359 ObserverArt

I’ve come to the conclusion we don’t have a news media anymore. It’s all entertainment. Once there were 7 billion cable stations and millions of internet sites…hard questioning, digging for facts and really going for a story went out the window.

Everyone is in it for the advertising ratings, and since the audiences are split over so many outlets now, they can’t do anything to upset one viewer lest it hit their ratings points and kills their ad revenue.

I haven’t had cable in 3 yrs, and was flipping through the channels at both my granddaughter’s and DIL’s houses. Interestingly, for every channel I recognized, there were probably 20 I didn’t. Lots of infomercial channels, from both corps and individuals shilling their shit, along with quite a number of religious channels.

I think I made the right decision not to keep cable.

368 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 8:31:05am

re: #358 FemNaziBitch

Racoons use squirrels that way?

I don’t know about squirrels, but I’ve heard tell that raccoons and sentient tree-like creatures get along pretty well.

369 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:31:11am

re: #366 Killgore Trout

There’s nothing anyone can do about it.

370 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:31:18am

re: #361 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Pray not to end poverty and hungry but LGBT pride month. Glad you care about what’s really important in this world FRC. Not hungry kids or people making but a fraction you do but a gay pride month.

371 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:31:41am
372 William Barnett-Lewis  May 29, 2014 8:32:34am

re: #365 Sergey Romanov

O_O

to put it mildly.

(of course I had a dudebro try to tell me that the NSA was worse than the Cheka/NKVD/KGB so I had to give him a brief history lesson which reminded me of what fine people they were … not.)

373 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:32:47am
374 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 8:33:19am

re: #369 Sergey Romanov

There’s nothing anyone can do about it.

Sad but true. It’s a done deal.

375 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 8:33:25am

A Mom Anon

My husband got his offer letter and new hire paperwork this week. All that’s left is the drug test, credit check and background check. He should be getting the info for all that stuff tomorrow.

Sheesh.

We should probably all go to work for these people doing the drug, credit and background tests. not sure if /

376 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 8:33:28am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I really wish people would think before running the yap. I get wanting an explanation for horrible things, but scapegoating people is dangerous and irresponsible. Thanks for the link, I’m sure it’ll come in handy, lol.

I knew that Asperger’s had been removed from the diagnostic manual, but that doesn’t mean it went away. I honestly haven’t looked to see what the new classification is, I’m sure I’ll have to at some point.

377 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:34:17am
378 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:34:55am

re: #374 Killgore Trout

It’s better to cut losses and use drones and whatever that try to repeat USSR’s mistakes (and fate).

379 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 8:35:09am

re: #373 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Lol. For me it was one of those “when you see it pics”. I spent 30 seconds comparing cleavage in the 2 pics before I realized they covered her shoulders.

380 piratedan  May 29, 2014 8:35:55am

re: #358 FemNaziBitch

squirrels are the gateway critter to raccoons…..

381 William Barnett-Lewis  May 29, 2014 8:36:44am

re: #366 Killgore Trout

As Obama Draws Down, Al Qaeda Grows in Afghanistan

Be sure to thank W for that fact. We lost the war when he shifted forces to a needless war in Iraq.

382 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 8:36:51am

re: #369 Sergey Romanov

There’s nothing anyone can do about it.

Not according to William “The Bloody” Kristol……

383 Killgore Trout  May 29, 2014 8:36:51am

re: #378 Sergey Romanov

It’s better to cut losses and use drones and whatever that try to repeat USSR’s mistakes (and fate).

That could work but the article mentions that part of the underlying problem is drone strikes (particularly in Pakistan) have reduced recently.

384 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:37:04am

re: #376 A Mom Anon

I really wish people would think before running the yap. I get wanting an explanation for horrible things, but scapegoating people is dangerous and irresponsible. Thanks for the link, I’m sure it’ll come in handy, lol.

I knew that Asperger’s had been removed from the diagnostic manual, but that doesn’t mean it went away. I honestly haven’t looked to see what the new classification is, I’m sure I’ll have to at some point.

What’s really annoying are people who don’t know anything calling Asperger’s and autism “fads.” Not a problem though. But yeah I heard about the removal from the manual. Hard to keep up since so relatively little was known when I was younger. Still want to find out as much as I can.

385 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 8:37:53am

re: #380 piratedan

squirrels are the gateway critter to raccoons…..

And then on to honey badgers.

Time to really get the day going…later LGFers.

386 blueraven  May 29, 2014 8:38:04am

re: #378 Sergey Romanov

It’s better to cut losses and use drones and whatever that try to repeat USSR’s mistakes (and fate).

You would think after 13 years that would be evident.

387 Lidane  May 29, 2014 8:38:14am

Well that wen’t pretty well. It was a screening call for a marketing role at a tech company here in town. The recruiter thinks I’m a solid match and that my education and experience would bump me to the higher levels of the salary they have budgeted for the position. And he agreed with me that it’s basically something I’ve been doing for ages, so training would be a matter of bringing me up to speed on their practices and their products.

He’s sold on me as a candidate to move forward. Tomorrow he’s meeting with the hiring manager to discuss who they want to go ahead and I’ll know soon if they want to bring me in for more interviews.

388 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 8:38:26am

re: #364 William Barnett-Lewis

I am _SO_ looking forward to that movie.

So am I; I’m also hoping it’s a success - and a good film - to see how the naysayers react. There’s something of an argument among the Marvel fanboys about it…..many of them want Marvel to focus on the well-known titles for film releases, but personally, I don’t see the harm in giving a lesser-known property some exposure.

389 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 8:39:26am

LGBT Pride Month - On Call2Fall Sunday, June 29th, the very day believers and churches across America will fall to their knees to pray for our nation, those who self-identify as homosexuals will be celebrating “LGBT Pride Day,” a grand finale for June’s observance of “LGBT Pride Month.”

On the very day that believers and churches will fall to their knees to pray for our mighty American nation, teh gays are going to celebrate sin!!! Teh gays are doing this on the very day just to be spiteful and hateful!!1 //

390 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:41:06am

Well on June 29th, I will be in Dublin and I will do a toast to the failure of the FRC now and forever.

391 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:41:54am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

What’s really annoying are people who don’t know anything calling Asperger’s and autism “fads.” Not a problem though. But yeah I heard about the removal from the manual. Hard to keep up since so relatively little was known when I was younger. Still want to find out as much as I can.

There are no “perfect” people in the world. We all try to blow ourselves up in a nice presentation, whether physical or mental, but the fact remains that we are all products of our genes and we are all flawed in some way, some more obviously than others and some not even diagnosed who therefore can’t get help. Therefore, it’s always incumbent on us to respect the humanity of others—totally and regardless of what condition they’re in, whether diagnosed or not. Science is evolving as well as we are, and to try to fault people for who they are is an exercise in hate and ignorance.

392 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:42:02am

bbl

393 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:45:32am

re: #383 Killgore Trout

That could work but the article mentions that part of the underlying problem is drone strikes (particularly in Pakistan) have reduced recently.

IMHO drones should be used sparingly and as a last resort. Anyway, that’s neither for you, nor for me to decide. As much as I empathize with the “normal” folks in Afghanistan, it’s gonna be a swamp in many senses for decades to come and it doesn’t seem to be a problem that can be solved militarily.

394 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 8:46:21am

re: #375 Bulworth

I had to agree to the same just to fill out an online application for a part time job. Not to mention the 100 plus questions in a “personality profile” you have to fill out in addition to the actual application. For a part time job making no more than 8 bucks an hour to start. It’s ridiculous.

395 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:46:21am

re: #387 Lidane

Well that wen’t pretty well. It was a screening call for a marketing role at a tech company here in town. The recruiter thinks I’m a solid match and that my education and experience would bump me to the higher levels of the salary they have budgeted for the position. And he agreed with me that it’s basically something I’ve been doing for ages, so training would be a matter of bringing me up to speed on their practices and their products.

He’s sold on me as a candidate to move forward. Tomorrow he’s meeting with the hiring manager to discuss who they want to go ahead and I’ll know soon if they want to bring me in for more interviews.

The very word “interviews” is something I only experienced a couple of times, both in corporate situations, once in HR and finally in the dept in which I’d be working and done by the mgr. No one else had input, no matter who I wound up working for. I don’t know if these multiple interviews is good or bad, but it’s certainly wearing on the person who has to go through it.

396 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:47:32am

re: #387 Lidane

Well that wen’t pretty well. It was a screening call for a marketing role at a tech company here in town. The recruiter thinks I’m a solid match and that my education and experience would bump me to the higher levels of the salary they have budgeted for the position. And he agreed with me that it’s basically something I’ve been doing for ages, so training would be a matter of bringing me up to speed on their practices and their products.

He’s sold on me as a candidate to move forward. Tomorrow he’s meeting with the hiring manager to discuss who they want to go ahead and I’ll know soon if they want to bring me in for more interviews.

I hate these long dragged out processes.

Maybe you should tell them that you have other offers.

397 palomino  May 29, 2014 8:48:41am

re: #369 Sergey Romanov

There’s nothing anyone can do about it.

Indeed, those who bother to read the article will see that it makes that exact point.

398 Lidane  May 29, 2014 8:50:06am

re: #396 Pie-onist Overlord

I hate these long dragged out processes.

Maybe you should tell them that you have other offers.

If they want me to move forward, I will definitely consider it. I can’t stand doing the Interview Obstacle Course. First the recruiter screening. Then the hiring manager’s first call to see if they like me. Then the in-person interview to meet the hiring manager and/or the team face to face. Then maybe another conversation with a different manager only to be rejected. It’s obnoxious. Bleah.

399 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 8:51:15am

ANTI-CHOICERS STOP CO-OPTING THE HOLOCAUST FOR YOUR STUPID SHIT.

400 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:51:46am

re: #396 Pie-onist Overlord

I hate these long dragged out processes.

Maybe you should tell them that you have other offers.

And they’re probably totally unnessary. Doesn’t the company know what kind of employee they’re looking for, qualifications, etc, without resorting to every Tom, Dick and Harriett having input?

401 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 8:51:54am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

And there’s this rush now to blame being an asshole or lacking in social skills on being autistic. “Oh, I can’t get a date or can’t make friends, so I must be autistic”. Yeah, ok, you also most likely are REALLY an asshole. I want to just slap the nonsense out of people who do that shit. Or using autistic in the same hurtful context as “retard”. Gah!

I will concede one tiny thing though. In every group of people, every classification we make for ourselves, there’s going to be jerks, assholes and assorted douchecanoes. Including autistic people. But to run to this bullshit diagnosis every time there’s a tragedy of this magnitude solves nothing.

402 Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2014 8:53:37am

re: #326 Pie-onist Overlord

Sorry Gwynnie you are only the SECOND MOAST IMPORTANT THING IN TEH UNIVERSE.

Actually I understand she’s #3 behind Snowden and Greenwald.

403 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 8:54:49am

We’ve killed over 8 times as many humans as Hitler killed Jews. The Jewish holocaust pales in comparison!

Hmmm, I wonder how we could reduce the number of abortions? Would birth control work? Hey, just asking questions here…

///

404 Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2014 8:55:08am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Factory explosions in every state!

405 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 8:56:24am

re: #357 makeitstop

Poor thing is probably so distraught, she can barely order the help around.
/

People just don’t understand what a rough life she has!

Gwyneth Paltrow: Moms who work 9-5 have it easier

406 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:56:52am

re: #401 A Mom Anon

And there’s this rush now to blame being an asshole or lacking in social skills on being autistic. “Oh, I can’t get a date or can’t make friends, so I must be autistic”. Yeah, ok, you also most likely are REALLY an asshole. I want to just slap the nonsense out of people who do that shit. Or using autistic in the same hurtful context as “retard”. Gah!

I will concede one tiny thing though. In every group of people, every classification we make for ourselves, there’s going to be jerks, assholes and assorted douchecanoes. Including autistic people. But to run to this bullshit diagnosis every time there’s a tragedy of this magnitude solves nothing.

Precisely and I’ve encountered my share of douches on the spectrum over the years that have had similar albeit not the violence of Elliott Rodger when it comes to women and dating. I have had a tough in the dating scene I will be the first to concede but I don’t blame women for that especially women I don’t even know. I think far too often when a tragedy like Isla Vista or Sandy Hook happens, it’s easy just to say “Oh he was crazy” or “He was such and such label” to distance ourselves from it.

407 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 8:58:37am

re: #403 Bulworth

We’ve killed over 8 times as many humans as Hitler killed Jews. The Jewish holocaust pales in comparison!

Hmmm, I wonder how we could reduce the number of abortions? Would birth control work? Hey, just asking questions here…

///

Birth control, programs that help unwed mothers. Not telling rape victims that they deserved it and were sluts because they were such and such or had the nerve to enjoy a drink. You know everything that the right thinks is ruining the “culture of masculinity.”

408 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 8:58:59am

I remember when the phrase “good fit” came into usage. At the time, I thought it was pretty ridiculous, since it made me feel like a puzzle piece or an article of clothing. Or something besides a human being.

“We think you would be a good fit.”

“We don’t think this job would be a good fit for you.”

Just tell me you don’t think I have the qualifications or whatever. And not in bullshit language.

409 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 8:59:06am

re: #399 Pie-onist Overlord

ANTI-CHOICERS STOP CO-OPTING THE HOLOCAUST FOR YOUR STUPID SHIT.

[Embedded content]

So why is he counting only the Jewish victims? Is he trying to convince Jews?

410 Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2014 8:59:39am

re: #373 FemNaziBitch

This was in Utah. Surprise, surprise. I knew it’d be a deep red state.

Honestly I think that’s dumb because, as another lizard has already pointed out, guys aren’t really that interested in looking at a girls bare shoulders.

411 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:00:02am

re: #409 Sergey Romanov

So why is he counting only the Jewish victims? Is he trying to convince Jews?

I think that could be simple ignorance. A lot of people don’t know about the Roma victims or in the case of the gay victims black it out of their minds because of their own hate.

412 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:00:05am

re: #408 Justanotherhuman

I remember when the phrase “good fit” came into usage. At the time, I thought it was pretty ridiculous, since it made me feel like a puzzle piece or an article of clothing. Or something besides a human being.

“We think you would be a good fit.”

“We don’t think this job would be a good fit for you.”

Just tell me you don’t think I have the qualifications or whatever. And not in bullshit language.

“You’re not a good fit” = “You are too Black/Brown/Female”

413 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:02:19am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

I think that could be simple ignorance. A lot of people don’t know about the Roma victims or in the case of the gay victims black it out of their minds because of their own hate.

Or that Hitler is responsible for more non-Jewish deaths than the Jewish ones.

414 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:02:46am

A recruiter used that “not a good fit” line on me when I interviewed for a GM contract in a shop full of young white penis-Americans. They thought I couldn’t possible be that much “into cars.”

415 Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2014 9:02:52am

Also, I’d like to point out the logic fail of the “false flag” people as it relates to mass shootings.

These kind of incidents have been getting major media attention since the mid to late 1990s.

So apparently these people believe every mass shooting from Columbine onward has been engineered to attempt to get gun control laws passed.

The problem is that if this were true, it would mean this plan has been a catastrophic failure since none of those shootings have resulted in many changes to gun laws. It would also mean the “gun grabbers” are apparently content to keep bodies piling up in pursuit of a goal they haven’t even come remotely close to reaching.

416 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2014 9:03:19am

re: #410 Eclectic Cyborg

This was in Utah. Surprise, surprise. I knew it’d be a deep red state.

Honestly I think that’s dumb because, as another lizard has already pointed out, guys aren’t really that interested in looking at a girls bare shoulders.

Shoulders are a LDS issue. Check photos of the extended Romney family or (in the extreme) the FLDS wives.

417 Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2014 9:04:08am

re: #411 HappyWarrior

I think that could be simple ignorance. A lot of people don’t know about the Roma victims or in the case of the gay victims black it out of their minds because of their own hate.

Could also be not a very good understanding of history. Some people who have just basic info on the Holocaust might believe it was only Jews who were killed because that’s usually what it’s commonly tied to.

418 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:04:11am

re: #413 Sergey Romanov

Or that Hitler is responsible for more non-Jewish deaths than the Jewish ones.

You want to really dumb found them point out that Hitler killed millions of communists and socialists too. There’s a lot of people in this country who have convinced themselves that the Nazis were a left wing movement.

419 Eclectic Cyborg  May 29, 2014 9:04:34am

re: #416 Decatur Deb

Shoulders are a LDS issue. Check photos of the extended Romney family or (in the extreme) the FLDS wives.

*shakes head*

Wow.

420 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 9:04:48am

re: #416 Decatur Deb

Shoulders are a LDS issue. Check photos of the extended Romney family or (in the extreme) the FLDS wives.

Elbows too, for some.

421 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 9:05:04am

re: #415 Eclectic Cyborg

Good points. And one other point: gun laws today are less restrictive than ever before in recent history.

422 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:06:34am

Has there ever been a real “false flag op” in U.S. history, ever?

423 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:06:42am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Not sure how many of ~18-19,000,000 dead non-military Soviets (incl. ~3.000,000 Jews) were socialists or communists, and that hardly matters. Add the victims outside the USSR and you get the picture.

424 lawhawk  May 29, 2014 9:06:54am
425 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 9:07:59am

Pie-onist Overlord

A recruiter used that “not a good fit” line on me when I interviewed for a GM contract in a shop full of young white penis-Americans. They thought I couldn’t possible be that much “into cars.”

“Only real masculine manly mens knows anything about the cars and mechanical thingamajigs.”

426 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2014 9:08:17am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Has there ever been a real “false flag op” in U.S. history, ever?

Boston tea party, but no one would emulate that.

427 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:08:57am

re: #412 Pie-onist Overlord

“You’re not a good fit” = “You are too Black/Brown/Female”

Yeah, that race thing. I used to tell minority women I knew who actually had the qualifications to apply to the law firm that fired me in 1994 (the sr partner said he’d never hire a Black person). I would tell them when they showed up to ask for an application if I had to fill in the front desk for some reason (I was the only paralegal who had to do that).

I told the ones I knew they were probably as qualified as any person already there (since he hired on “appearance” more than actual qualifications more than a few times) and if they didn’t get called back or actually get hired, to file an EEOC complaint. Evidently, after I left (and had filed both a sex & race complaint of my own when I was fired and got a settlement), the face of that office changed considerably, although only at the clerical level. They still don’t have any female or Black lawyers, though. Every one of the people I used to work with, even the younger ones, are no longer there.

428 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:09:35am

re: #423 Sergey Romanov

Not sure how many of ~18-19,000,000 dead non-military Soviets (incl. ~3.000,000 Jews) were socialists or communists, and that hardly matters. Add the victims outside the USSR and you get the picture.

Right. And to go with that, the more I learn about the Nazis, the more upset I get at people throwing out trivial comparisons.

429 Varek Raith  May 29, 2014 9:09:50am

God dammit.
Allergies.

430 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:10:04am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Has there ever been a real “false flag op” in U.S. history, ever?

Dunno about the real ones, but the mentality was certainly there, so I wouldn’t outright exclude the possibility.

en.wikipedia.org

431 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:10:31am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Has there ever been a real “false flag op” in U.S. history, ever?

Does the time I cheated in Capture the Flag count?//

432 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:11:41am

re: #425 Bulworth

Pie-onist Overlord

“Only real masculine manly mens knows anything about the cars and mechanical thingamajigs.”

LOL there was a Mustang commercial a couple of years ago that totally MISSED THE MARK. They showed a bunch of random people—girl in red boots, bicycle guy in green shirt, tattooed food service worker, little 7-year-old girl WTF—none of whom could afford a Mustang, but did not include “Little Old Lady In Blue Hat” who could actually walk into a dealership and put cash down and drive out in a new Mustang.

433 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 9:16:30am

Dr. Ben Carson, brain surgeon and guest star speaker at the All American Conservative Political Action Committee Conference that excludes teh gay and hates Muslims and libtard Amercians who live on the leftish enclaves on the coasts wishes all you libtards and Saul Alinsky types and everyone who doesn’t have the same tax liability as the good doctor would stop dividing real Americans so we can all be One Nation, except for teh gays and President Obama and the Democrat Party.

washingtonpost.com

434 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 9:16:37am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Has there ever been a real “false flag op” in U.S. history, ever?

Of course. When George Bush knocked down those towers in NYC!
~ Rosie

///

435 BeenHereAwhile  May 29, 2014 9:16:58am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

re: #332 Pie-onist Overlord

“I get PTSD from the Usenet Wars of the ‘90’s.”

Heh.

Being able to cancel posts is a good thing.

436 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:17:41am

re: #433 Bulworth

Dr. Ben Carson, brain surgeon and guest star speaker at the All American Conservative Political Action Committee Conference that excludes teh gay and hates Muslims and libtard Amercians who live on the leftish enclaves on the coasts wishes all you libtards and Saul Alinsky types and everyone who doesn’t have the same tax liability as the good doctor would stop dividing real Americans so we can all be One Nation, except for teh gays and President Obama and the Democrat Party.

washingtonpost.com

Carson really thinks this will get him nominated for president doesn’t he? Sad, such an obviously brilliant mind in neuroscience but apparently a complete jackass in every other field.

437 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 9:20:17am
Carson really thinks this will get him nominated for president doesn’t he?

And the whole “God has plans for me…”

Smh.

438 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:21:33am

This is a good thing, but wait for the complaints.

President Obama calls for change to youth sporting culture that says ‘you suck it up’ when it comes to health and concussions - @kwelkernbc
see original on twitter.com

439 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:21:36am

re: #437 Bulworth

And the whole “God has plans for me…”

Smh.

God had a plan for Michelle Bachmann too that involved her looking too crazy for even Republican primary voters.

440 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 9:22:44am
President Obama calls for change to youth sporting culture that says ‘you suck it up’ when it comes to health and concussions -

OMG war on Mens, Obama hates Amercia, wimp culture America decline Weakness!! ManUP!!

441 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:24:21am

re: #440 Bulworth

OMG war on Mens, Obama hates Amercia, wimp culture America decline Weakness!! ManUP!!

Right that’s exactly what’s going to happen and it’s going to come from the fine example of masculinity Limbaugh who used a pimple on his fat ass to get out of military service.

442 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:24:56am

Meh.

Report: Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has offered $1.8 billion for the Los Angeles Clippers, according to a person familiar with Ballmer’s interest in the NBA team - @Forbes
Read more on forbes.com

Again, petty cash for someone who already is worth $21B.

443 b.d.  May 29, 2014 9:25:29am

re: #437 Bulworth

And the whole “God has plans for me…”

Smh.

God loves you & has a wonderful plan for your life

444 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 9:26:42am

re: #442 Justanotherhuman

Meh.

Report: Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has offered $1.8 billion for the Los Angeles Clippers, according to a person familiar with Ballmer’s interest in the NBA team - @Forbes
Read more on forbes.com

Again, petty cash for someone who already is worth $21B.

I’m looking forward to the new Clippers-Blazers rivarly borne of Microsoft billionaires looking to one-up each other.

Kidding, sort of.

445 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:27:02am

One of the best snopes-like sites for the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is stopfake.org

It debunks rumors and propaganda and not only from the Russian side, which fact shows its objectivity. It also has an English version (not complete): stopfake.org

446 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:27:56am

You tell ‘em, Nancy.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., says Edward Snowden’s actions were not ‘patriotic’ and the US should not set a loose precedent in its handling of them - @NBCNews
End of alert

447 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 9:28:14am
448 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 9:28:48am

re: #361 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, good luck with that.

449 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 9:30:39am

re: #447 NJDhockeyfan

The Putin government really, really doesn’t like Poland. Is it because of Walesa and Solidarity being the first crack in the Iron Curtain? Pope John Paul II? Poland being an Eastern European heavyweight that has chosen a western path instead of a Russian one? All of the above?

450 Rightwingconspirator  May 29, 2014 9:32:16am

re: #432 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL there was a Mustang commercial a couple of years ago that totally MISSED THE MARK. They showed a bunch of random people—girl in red boots, bicycle guy in green shirt, tattooed food service worker, little 7-year-old girl WTF—none of whom could afford a Mustang, but did not include “Little Old Lady In Blue Hat” who could actually walk into a dealership and put cash down and drive out in a new Mustang.

Remember the perhaps mythical Chevy Nova story? Tried to sell it in Mexico despite the name meaning No Go in spanish?

451 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:32:26am

re: #449 Ian G.

The Putin government really, really doesn’t like Poland. Is it because of Walesa and Solidarity being the first crack in the Iron Curtain? Pope John Paul II? Poland being an Eastern European heavyweight that has chosen a western path instead of a Russian one? All of the above?

Plus, they’re on Ukraine’s side in all of this. And Russia actually thinks Ukraine belongs to Russia.

452 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:32:47am

re: #449 Ian G.

The Putin government really, really doesn’t like Poland. Is it because of Walesa and Solidarity being the first crack in the Iron Curtain? Pope John Paul II? Poland being an Eastern European heavyweight that has chosen a western path instead of a Russian one? All of the above?

None of this and paradoxically all of this. None of this in particular, but all of the above are details of the historical Russian-Polish enmity.

453 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:33:10am

re: #450 Rightwingconspirator

Remember the perhaps mythical Chevy Nova story? Tried to sell it in mexico despite the name meaning No Go in spanish?

No va! No va!

454 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:35:23am

Yet another NKVD sign somewhere in Donetsk:

455 BeenHereAwhile  May 29, 2014 9:37:08am

re: #450 Rightwingconspirator

Remember the perhaps mythical Chevy Nova story? Tried to sell it in Mexico despite the name meaning No Go in spanish?

What happens if it exceeds the Chandrasekhar limit?

456 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 9:37:44am

re: #454 Sergey Romanov

Yet another NKVD sign somewhere in Donetsk:

[Embedded content]

With a photo of Felix Dzerzhinsky to drive the point home, presumably.

458 Bubblehead II  May 29, 2014 9:39:44am

re: #361 FemNaziBitch

FRC just trying to get one up on the AFA.

American Family Association: Don’t Open Letters With Harvey Milk Stamp

Incensed by the release of a postage stamp honoring Harvey Milk, the American Family Association is urging its members not only to avoid purchasing the stamp…but to refuse to accept or open any letter or package postmarked with one.

Wonder how well that would go over if the recipient knew what was in the letter/package and wanted it?

459 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 9:39:47am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Does the time I cheated in Capture the Flag count?//

I cheated once as well. It was a paintball match: USN vs. USMC. The ref came to our side (USN) and gave us the instructions and then went to the USMC side to provide the same instructions. While he was doing that I snuck off and took a secured and elevated position to their left flank. It was shooting fish in a barrel when the ref blew the whistle.

460 Varek Raith  May 29, 2014 9:40:37am

re: #458 Bubblehead II

FRC just trying to get one up on the AFA.

American Family Association: Don’t Open Letters With Harvey Milk Stamp

Incensed by the release of a postage stamp honoring Harvey Milk, the American Family Association is urging its members not only to avoid purchasing the stamp…but to refuse to accept or open any letter or package postmarked with one.

Wonder how well that would go over if the recipient knew what was in the letter/package and wanted it?

What morons.

461 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 9:40:43am

re: #437 Bulworth

And the whole “God has plans for me…”

Smh.

God “told” Frothy and Crazy Eyes the same plan as well.

462 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:41:30am

re: #456 Dr Lizardo

With a photo of Felix Dzerzhinsky to drive the point home, presumably.

Interestingly, had Felix not died so early, he might have tasted the full measure of the NKVD “basement justice”, being an Old Bolshevik and all that.

463 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 9:41:39am
464 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:43:21am

Anyone who uses these things is a moron.

Tanning beds, sun lamps will carry new warnings that they should not be used by anyone under age 18 as the federal government works to reduce rising rates of skin cancer linked to the radiation-emitting devices - @AP
End of alert

466 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:44:34am

re: #458 Bubblehead II

FRC just trying to get one up on the AFA.

American Family Association: Don’t Open Letters With Harvey Milk Stamp

Incensed by the release of a postage stamp honoring Harvey Milk, the American Family Association is urging its members not only to avoid purchasing the stamp…but to refuse to accept or open any letter or package postmarked with one.

Wonder how well that would go over if the recipient knew what was in the letter/package and wanted it?

Christ it’s a gay guy on a postage stamp. I mean I’d understand the anger if someone were telling the AFA they can’t marry who they love because of a minority group who thinks only their voice should be heard.

467 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 9:44:54am
468 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 9:44:57am

CA man’s treatment for dozens of tumors not medically necessary, insurance carrier says

A northern California man said his insurance carrier refused to pay for treatment of more than a dozen tumors, reported KPIX-TV.

[…]

But the family’s health insurance carrier, Anthem Blue Cross, sent them a letter that arrived Tuesday denying coverage for the hospital stay, saying the treatments did not meet the criteria for medical necessity.

“I would call saving my husband’s life medically necessary,” Keating said.

But, remember, Obamacare has death panels.

469 Decatur Deb  May 29, 2014 9:45:11am

re: #437 Bulworth

And the whole “God has plans for me…”

Smh.

Dear Dr,
God is fucking with you.

470 Varek Raith  May 29, 2014 9:45:23am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

Christ it’s a gay guy on a postage stamp. I mean I’d understand the anger if someone were telling the AFA they can’t marry who they love because of a minority group who thinks only their voice should be heard.

*Sends million dollar donation with said stamp to AFA*
Trollolol.

471 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:45:36am

re: #458 Bubblehead II

FRC just trying to get one up on the AFA.

American Family Association: Don’t Open Letters With Harvey Milk Stamp

Incensed by the release of a postage stamp honoring Harvey Milk, the American Family Association is urging its members not only to avoid purchasing the stamp…but to refuse to accept or open any letter or package postmarked with one.

Wonder how well that would go over if the recipient knew what was in the letter/package and wanted it?

And cut off your ears if you hear something by Mercury or Tchaikovsky.

472 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:45:45am

re: #462 Sergey Romanov

Interestingly, had Felix not died so early, he might have tasted the full measure of the NKVD “basement justice”, being an Old Bolshevik and all that.

Remember hearing a proverb when I saw a documentary on Russian history but “The closer to the czar(referring to Ivan the Terrible) the closer to death. One could say the same thing about the early Bolsheviks under Stalin.

473 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:46:10am

re: #470 Varek Raith

*Sends million dollar donation with said stamp to AFA*
Trollolol.

Oh you brilliant bastard.

474 allegro  May 29, 2014 9:46:52am

re: #461 Dr. Matt

God “told” Frothy and Crazy Eyes the same plan as well.

She’s such a cut up.

475 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:47:16am

Refuse to look at the Mona Lisa in the Louvre.

Look down at the ground in the Sistine Chapel and avoid the ceiling.

476 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:47:59am

re: #472 HappyWarrior

Remember hearing a proverb when I saw a documentary on Russian history but “The closer to the czar(referring to Ivan the Terrible) the closer to death. One could say the same thing about the early Bolsheviks under Stalin.

Actually Stalin said very explicitly around 1952 or so: for the ppl in MGB there are only 2 ways - up the career ladder or to the jail.

477 jaunte  May 29, 2014 9:48:12am

re: #470 Varek Raith

They’d open it for a buck.

478 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:48:30am

Just a small sample of the insane Derp of climate change denial:

479 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:48:48am

re: #476 Sergey Romanov

Actually Stalin said very explicitly around 1952 or so: for the ppl in MGB there are only 2 ways - up the career ladder or to the jail.

Well my response as we saw or more precisely our Spanish speaking friends, Adios.

480 Varek Raith  May 29, 2014 9:49:50am

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

Not deserts.
What morons.

481 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 9:49:52am
482 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 9:50:03am
Incensed by the release of a postage stamp honoring Harvey Milk, the American Family Association is urging its members not only to avoid purchasing the stamp…but to refuse to accept or open any letter or package postmarked with one.

That’s just brilliant. /

483 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:50:09am

So are they going to refuse to use computers because of Alan Tuning? Really, the AFA is free to pursue this silly little boycott but you know if you’re boycotting over the presence of a gay man on a stamp, you really need a new hobby.

484 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 9:50:26am

John Cole gets his reward for being Greenwald’s attack dog yesterday:

485 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 9:50:39am

The amorphous Russian ideology at the moment is a heavy mix of Stalinism and Christian Orthodoxy. When ppl have that swill in their heads instead of grey matter, that leads nowhere good.

486 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 9:52:34am

With Obama focused on school lunches and “climate change,” the economy is sliding back toward recession.
t.co
#tcot
#gop
— Rep. Steve Stockman

Well, Steve, with you in the Senate next year, you’ll have a chance to…oh wait.

487 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 9:54:24am

re: #462 Sergey Romanov

Interestingly, had Felix not died so early, he might have tasted the full measure of the NKVD “basement justice”, being an Old Bolshevik and all that.

Oh, I wouldn’t be surprised by that at all. Not one bit. Stalin went after the Old Bolsheviks most ruthlessly.

488 Dr. Matt  May 29, 2014 9:55:14am
489 lawhawk  May 29, 2014 9:55:39am

re: #478 Pie-onist Overlord

Once again people don’t quite get that the fact that there’s a drought in areas that are already classified as a desert means that those already dry areas are getting even less precipitation.

But let’s focus on a more serious issue.

How many millions of Americans have moved into areas that are considered arid/semi-desert/desert regions? That pretty much encompasses the Southwest from California to Texas. Tens of millions rely on water from the Colorado River, and it’s running with a fraction of the average water flow from earlier in the 20th century when the Colorado River compact was signed and before millions moved to Arizona and Nevada to live in the desert.

Some of these areas, including the California Central Valley, were turned into agricultural production areas due to construction of massive water diversion projects.

With the drought, those areas aren’t getting the water they need, so fields are going fallow, crops are shriveling, and aquifers are being stressed beyond capacity to easily recover.

[ed]: And now that those areas are being hit with the severe drought, that pushes food prices higher because less supply with demand remaining where it is. That’s affecting everything from the price of fruit and vegetables to beef and chickens.

490 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:56:57am

re: #489 lawhawk

Once again people don’t quite get that the fact that there’s a drought in areas that are already classified as a desert means that those already dry areas are getting even less precipitation.

But let’s focus on a more serious issue.

How many millions of Americans have moved into areas that are considered arid/semi-desert/desert regions? That pretty much encompasses the Southwest from California to Texas. Tens of millions rely on water from the Colorado River, and it’s running with a fraction of the average water flow from earlier in the 20th century when the Colorado River compact was signed and before millions moved to Arizona and Nevada to live in the desert.

Some of these areas, including the California Central Valley, were turned into agricultural production areas due to construction of massive water diversion projects.

With the drought, those areas aren’t getting the water they need, so fields are going fallow, crops are shriveling, and aquifers are being stressed beyond capacity to easily recover.

HURR HURR LIES FROM TEH PITS OF HELL!!!!!!

491 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 9:57:08am
492 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:57:16am

re: #487 Dr Lizardo

Oh, I wouldn’t be surprised by that at all. Not one bit. Stalin went after the Old Bolsheviks most ruthlessly.

Did either of you or really anyone here at that read Young Stalin? I still need to read Court of the Red Czar but man it was fascinating. I typically don’t like multiple volume bios for my own quirky reasons but I really enjoyed that. Still want to and need to find a good Lenin bio. I remember my Russian history professor recommending the Robert Service bio.

493 The Ghost of a Flea  May 29, 2014 9:57:46am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

So are they going to refuse to use computers because of Alan Tuning? Really, the AFA is free to pursue this silly little boycott but you know if you’re boycotting over the presence of a gay man on a stamp, you really need a new hobby.

The real day-ruiner is going to be when they realize how gay Alfred J Gloryhole was.

494 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 9:58:16am

re: #394 A Mom Anon

I had to agree to the same just to fill out an online application for a part time job. Not to mention the 100 plus questions in a “personality profile” you have to fill out in addition to the actual application. For a part time job making no more than 8 bucks an hour to start. It’s ridiculous.

They’re really checking on your qualifications for working as a contractor for the NSA.

495 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 9:58:57am

re: #489 lawhawk

Once again people don’t quite get that the fact that there’s a drought in areas that are already classified as a desert means that those already dry areas are getting even less precipitation.

But let’s focus on a more serious issue.

How many millions of Americans have moved into areas that are considered arid/semi-desert/desert regions? That pretty much encompasses the Southwest from California to Texas. Tens of millions rely on water from the Colorado River, and it’s running with a fraction of the average water flow from earlier in the 20th century when the Colorado River compact was signed and before millions moved to Arizona and Nevada to live in the desert.

Some of these areas, including the California Central Valley, were turned into agricultural production areas due to construction of massive water diversion projects.

With the drought, those areas aren’t getting the water they need, so fields are going fallow, crops are shriveling, and aquifers are being stressed beyond capacity to easily recover.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME KINDA EGGHEAD SCIENCEY TALK THERE, FELLA - THE SORT OF EGGHEAD SCIENCEY TALK THEM PINKOS USE ALL THE TIME! YOU SOME KINDA PINKO OR SOMETHING?!

*headdesk*

496 b.d.  May 29, 2014 9:59:06am

re: #489 lawhawk

YOU CAN’T HAVE A DROUGHT IN A DESERT! IF IT WEREN’T IN A DROUGHT THEN IT WOULD BE A RAINFOREST FULL OF MONKEYS!

497 Bubblehead II  May 29, 2014 9:59:32am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

Christ it’s a gay guy on a postage stamp. I mean I’d understand the anger if someone were telling the AFA they can’t marry who they love because of a minority group who thinks only their voice should be heard.

But if it isn’t one of those self-adhesive type of stamps, they would be forced to kiss the back side of a gay guy’s (picture).

/////

498 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 9:59:42am

re: #484 Charles Johnson

I used to be a regular at Balloon Juice, because Cole, like you, was a winger who saw the light. But Cole just seemed so full of bile that it became unpleasant to be over there. It doesn’t look like he has changed much. It’s a pity, as he’s usually on the right side of things, but any deviation from his orthodoxy (like on Snowden) gets the bile really flowing.

499 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 10:00:34am
500 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:01:04am

re: #480 Varek Raith

droughtmonitor.unl.edu

Not deserts.
What morons.

It’s actually an improvement from last week. The Texas panhandle and western Oklahoma got quite a bit of rain in recent days.

501 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 10:02:11am
502 Varek Raith  May 29, 2014 10:02:23am

re: #500 Ian G.

It’s actually an improvement from last week. The Texas panhandle and western Oklahoma got quite a bit of rain in recent days.

That’s good.
I’d gladly send them all this rain we’ve been getting here in the Mid Atlantic.

503 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 10:03:06am

re: #502 Varek Raith

That’s good.
I’d gladly send them all this rain we’ve been getting here in the Mid Atlantic.

Seconded. My kid brother can’t get a damn baseball game during the week.

504 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:03:17am

re: #478 Pie-onist Overlord

Just a small sample of the insane Derp of climate change denial:

[Embedded content]

The last one is my favorite, as if weather = climate. Anyone who says “my climate changes every day!” tempts me to ask, “did it change from a cold-winter desert to a tropical savannah? Humid continental? Because either you live on a different planet where this is possible, or you don’t know what fucking words mean.”

But it ain’t worth my time.

505 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 10:03:19am

The Operation American Spring guy is an anti-Fluoride conspiracy nut. Who’da guessed?

506 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:04:17am

re: #505 Pie-onist Overlord

The Operation American Spring guy is an anti-Fluoride conspiracy nut. Who’da guessed?

[Embedded content]

Wait, fluoride in the water is something new that was started under Obama? Geez, I guess “Dr. Strangelove” was lying to me.

507 Skip Intro  May 29, 2014 10:04:34am

re: #442 Justanotherhuman

Meh.

Report: Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has offered $1.8 billion for the Los Angeles Clippers, according to a person familiar with Ballmer’s interest in the NBA team - @Forbes
Read more on forbes.com

Again, petty cash for someone who already is worth $21B.

Just think what he could do if he wasn’t taxed to death.

508 piratedan  May 29, 2014 10:04:41am

re: #498 Ian G.

Ian I think Cole is wrong on Snowden, but then again I’m not a one issue kinda guy. Plus there is a good stable of other front pagers there that consistently put out good stuff (Mayhew’s series on the ACA for one, Kay for local voting rights issues for another) that keep me checking in. Hell, I enjoy both places, the commentariat at both tend to be varied and to a degree informed and I learn something at each site.

509 blueraven  May 29, 2014 10:05:41am

re: #489 lawhawk

Once again people don’t quite get that the fact that there’s a drought in areas that are already classified as a desert means that those already dry areas are getting even less precipitation.

But let’s focus on a more serious issue.

How many millions of Americans have moved into areas that are considered arid/semi-desert/desert regions? That pretty much encompasses the Southwest from California to Texas. Tens of millions rely on water from the Colorado River, and it’s running with a fraction of the average water flow from earlier in the 20th century when the Colorado River compact was signed and before millions moved to Arizona and Nevada to live in the desert.

Some of these areas, including the California Central Valley, were turned into agricultural production areas due to construction of massive water diversion projects.

With the drought, those areas aren’t getting the water they need, so fields are going fallow, crops are shriveling, and aquifers are being stressed beyond capacity to easily recover.

Witness the rice farmers of south TX

mysanantonio.com

However, population growth and six years of drought have pitted the needs of upriver municipalities with downriver agriculture.

Though the Highland Lakes — which refers to the reservoirs west of Austin, including Lake Buchanan and Lake Travis — have provided a source of water for farmers for decades, downriver farmers have been cut off from the reservoirs for the past three years. And last week, the state environmental agency proposed changes to the Lower Colorado River Authority’s water management plan that would cut farmers off to more water in the future.

510 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 10:06:46am

Greensnow would just say, “Don’t read his emails!” Or even investigate him.

New Jersey pharmacist arrested by the FBI last year on apparent drug-related charges admits he was actually trying to produce ricin and other toxins for use as weapons - @NBCNewYork
Read more on nbcnewyork.com

511 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 10:07:50am

re: #422 Pie-onist Overlord

Has there ever been a real “false flag op” in U.S. history, ever?

en.wikipedia.org

A few, but nothing on domestic soil.

512 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 10:08:00am

re: #505 Pie-onist Overlord

The Operation American Spring guy is an anti-Fluoride conspiracy nut. Who’da guessed?

[Embedded content]

Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper explains it all.

513 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:08:15am

No.

514 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 10:09:55am

What Obama-haters do in their spare time when they’re not outraged about BENGHAZI!!!!!

515 b.d.  May 29, 2014 10:09:59am

re: #513 Gus

[Embedded content]

No.

Vox has turned into anti-click bait for me, how ridiculous.

516 Targetpractice  May 29, 2014 10:10:52am

re: #513 Gus

[Embedded content]

No.

They seriously believe that Republicans are gonna want to go to the voters and say “We never should have left Afghanistan!”? HA!

517 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 10:12:36am

LOOK AT ALL TEH JRRBS CLEANING UP TEH TOXIC WASTE AFTER SPILLS & EXPLOSIONS!!!!!

518 b.d.  May 29, 2014 10:14:19am

This was included in the article and they still wrote it:

I think that the guys at Vox are missing the duh gene

519 Targetpractice  May 29, 2014 10:14:20am

re: #488 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

I checked in on the Freepers yesterday, after the word about McConnell saying people could keep their Kynect if they wanted to. General theme: McConnell’s in deep shit with his base.

520 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 10:14:43am

Regulations are job-destroyers, not job-creators:

—-

but letting people gay marry=anarchy!! which is no Freedom and Liberty!1

521 Ed E. Lishus  May 29, 2014 10:15:32am

re: #508 piratedan

Cole’s a good guy. A bit of a hot-head at times, but that’s the part about him I find endearing. When he steps in it, he usually owns up to it, and not just in a “I’m sorry if you were offended” kind of way either, but in a “Dammit, I’m a ass. You were right here are some cat pictures” way.

522 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 10:16:13am

re: #519 Targetpractice

I checked in on the Freepers yesterday, after the word about McConnell saying people could keep their Kynect if they wanted to. General theme: McConnell’s in deep shit with his base.

McConnell’s base right now is pretty much Koch Brothers and his other big money donors.
Kentucky voters? Not too many of them left. More a very-worn veneer than a base.

523 Targetpractice  May 29, 2014 10:17:40am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell’s base right now is pretty much Koch Brothers and his other big money donors.
Kentucky voters? Not too many of them left. More a very-worn veneer than a base.

Last I checked, even the best poll numbers for McConnell showed him pulling even with Grimes. Even Rasmussen has had poll numbers in recent weeks showing Grimes with the upper hand. McConnell’s really hoping at this point that the party base is so scared come November of Democrats possibly keeping the Senate that they’re willing to hold their nose and keep Mitch in office for another term.

524 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:18:17am

re: #517 Pie-onist Overlord

LOOK AT ALL TEH JRRBS CLEANING UP TEH TOXIC WASTE AFTER SPILLS & EXPLOSIONS!!!!!

[Embedded content]

If only American cities could be more like Beijing, where there are no environmental regulations to “kill jobs”.

Oh wait, we once were like that:

en.wikipedia.org

Unfortunately for the Koch boys, democracy happened and we passed laws to prevent this kind of thing from happening again.

525 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 10:19:16am

re: #505 Pie-onist Overlord

The Operation American Spring guy is an anti-Fluoride conspiracy nut. Who’da guessed?

Send him some childrens’ ice cream.
//

526 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 10:20:13am

re: #506 Ian G.

Wait, fluoride in the water is something new that was started under Obama? Geez, I guess “Dr. Strangelove” was lying to me.

It was a conspiracy aimed at the Coca-Cola Company. Why are you surprised at the lies?
/

527 Bulworth  May 29, 2014 10:20:46am

Ed E. Lishus

Cole’s a good guy. A bit of a hot-head at times, but that’s the part about him I find endearing. When he steps in it, he usually owns up to it, and not just in a “I’m sorry if you were offended” kind of way either, but in a “Dammit, I’m a ass. You were right here are some cat pictures” way.

I totally agree. I just haven’t been over there much lately. He’s also a cat/dog lover, connects his readers to animal shelters or animals that need medical care, etc.

528 Ed E. Lishus  May 29, 2014 10:22:20am

re: #513 Gus

I would imagine even con voters in ‘16 won’t be stirred very much by the war stuff. Even to the the Tea Party crowd, with their culture war and their omg-creeping-soshulist-sharia-in-the-White-House!eleventy! derp, the neo-con message has a long past due sell by date.

529 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:23:12am

re: #521 Ed E. Lishus

Cole’s a good guy. A bit of a hot-head at times, but that’s the part about him I find endearing. When he steps in it, he usually owns up to it, and not just in a “I’m sorry if you were offended” kind of way either, but in a “Dammit, I’m a ass. You were right here are some cat pictures” way.

Yesterday he viciously attacked me on Twitter, in a very personal way, with totally dishonest smears.

You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t share your opinion that he’s a “good guy,” because he’s been a major asshole to me.

530 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 10:24:23am

re: #523 Targetpractice

Last I checked, even the best poll numbers for McConnell showed him pulling even with Grimes. Even Rasmussen has had poll numbers in recent weeks showing Grimes with the upper hand. McConnell’s really hoping at this point that the party base is so scared come November of Democrats possibly keeping the Senate that they’re willing to hold their nose and keep Mitch in office for another term.

I’m just going on what I’m hearing from Republicans here. Most are going to either hold their nose and vote for Grimes or they’re going to sit out the election.

531 Rightwingconspirator  May 29, 2014 10:28:28am

I had hoped the ACA would prevent this sort of thing

CA man’s treatment for dozens of tumors not medically necessary, insurance carrier says

Jeffrey Rusch, of Sonoma County, said an MRI revealed more than 20 tumors in his brain, and a CT scan two days later revealed a large tumor in his lungs and others in his liver and bones.

“My husband was having a lot of difficulty breathing already, and he was getting a lot worse, so we went to the hospital and they admitted him immediately,” said his wife, Zoe Keating.

Doctors removed a half-liter of fluid from Rusch’s lungs, prescribed steroids to reduce brain swelling, and administered emergency chemotherapy.

But the family’s health insurance carrier, Anthem Blue Cross, sent them a letter that arrived Tuesday denying coverage for the hospital stay, saying the treatments did not meet the criteria for medical necessity.

Chilling.

532 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:28:49am

Yeah, he’s a great guy. Loves cats.

533 b.d.  May 29, 2014 10:30:07am
534 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:31:38am

It worked, too. He was sucking up to Greenwald with those fucked up hypocritical comments, and sure enough he got a link for it. Asshole.

535 Targetpractice  May 29, 2014 10:31:40am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m just going on what I’m hearing from Republicans here. Most are going to either hold their nose and vote for Grimes or they’re going to sit out the election.

That’s what I’ve been reading from the Freepers. Most have simply decided that they’d rather let the seat go to a Democrat and try again next go around than reelect a guy who “declared war” on conservatives.

536 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:31:41am

re: #532 Charles Johnson

The irony is that he too was a former winger and Bush supporter. I mean, he’s going to attack someone for repudiated past associations when he’s got them too? Jeebus cripes.

537 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 10:31:42am

re: #533 b.d.

[Embedded content]

Yep. And that speaks at how really messed up their priorities are. Sexism and racism are to be ignored or even accepted but oh a “Christian bakery” may have to serve a gay couple. Horrible, we should protect their right under the law to be total assholes.

538 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 10:33:14am

Ramstein, 29 May 2014 - On 27 and 28 May 2014 seven NATO nations and two Partnership for Peace (PfP) member nations trained in the airspace over Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania during the 18th Baltic Region Training Event (BRTE 18). The large training audience during this 18th sequel of BRTE became possible because NATO quadrupled its Baltic Air Policing (BAP) mission in May. The Polish are the BAP lead nation at Siauliai Air Base, Lithuania. They are supported by the British (also at Siauliai), the Danish at Ämari, Estonia, and the French at Malbork, Poland.

More at the Facebook link.

539 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:33:21am

re: #536 Ian G.

The irony is that he too was a former winger and Bush supporter. I mean, he’s going to attack someone for repudiated past associations when he’s got them too? Jeebus cripes.

Exactly. And it’s pretty obvious what he was doing - he knew Greenwald would see it. Fuck him.

540 Ed E. Lishus  May 29, 2014 10:33:56am

re: #529 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I get. He can be a total Walter Sobchak at times, but for what it’s worth his own commentariat is regularly eviscerating him on the GG/Snowden stuff.

541 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:34:00am

re: #536 Ian G.

The irony is that he too was a former winger and Bush supporter. I mean, he’s going to attack someone for repudiated past associations when he’s got them too? Jeebus cripes.

Goes beyond irony. That’s carrying shit in your pockets to throw at other people, and not being able to smell the stink.

542 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 10:34:27am

re: #534 Charles Johnson

It worked, too. He was sucking up to Greenwald with those fucked up hypocritical comments, and sure enough he got a link for it. Asshole.

If Glenn retweets his insults to you, that’s just the icing on the cake.

Mona will probably retweet them.

543 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:34:55am

re: #528 Ed E. Lishus

I would imagine even con voters in ‘16 won’t be stirred very much by the war stuff. Even to the the Tea Party crowd, with their culture war and their omg-creeping-soshulist-sharia-in-the-White-House!eleventy! derp, the neo-con message has a long past due sell by date.

The neo-con message was always one from the halls of elite academia and uber-insider Beltway connections (Bill Kristol, anyone?). It has no genuine grassroots support in the fever swamps of the right. People were just scared in the aftermath of 9/11 and were easy to lie to at that point.

544 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 10:35:02am

re: #536 Ian G.

The irony is that he too was a former winger and Bush supporter. I mean, he’s going to attack someone for repudiated past associations when he’s got them too? Jeebus cripes.

Greenwald was a pretty big Bush cheerleader too at one time. Never stops him either.

545 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:35:09am

re: #532 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Yeah, he’s a great guy. Loves cats.

From a guy that used to blog about “the religion of peace.” Linked to LGF, Instapundit, Ace of Spades and others. Had categories of “the loony left” and “useful idiots.” He also carried on like this until 2006. So I guess because he converted in 2006 rather than you in 2009 he’s better than you.

Never mind that John Cole was also a wingnut probably until 2006 and was a strong supported of the Iraq war. It’s also absurd to think that supporting Snowden should be a default liberal position when it’s not. I have countless liberal followers who do not support Snowden or Greenwald one single bit. It’s absurd what he’s doing and seems to be some type of derangement he has with you.

546 Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2014 10:35:27am

re: #99 Lidane

Re-watching The Avengers for the nth time. I can’t even count how many times I’ve watched this movie.

Still more interesting than Snowden.

I watch it just to see Hulk beat the floor with Loki.

547 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 10:35:31am

re: #540 Ed E. Lishus

Yeah, I get. He can be a total Walter Sobchak at times, but for what it’s worth his own commentariat is regularly eviscerating him on the GG/Snowden stuff.

Please do not insult the beloved Walter Sobchak by comparing him to John Cole.

548 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:36:26am

re: #545 Gus

From a guy that used to blog about “the religion of peace.” Linked to LGF, Instapundit, Ace of Spades and others. Had categories of “the loony left” and “useful idiots.” He also carried on like this until 2006. So I guess because he converted in 2006 rather than you in 2009 he’s better than you.

Never mind that John Cole was also a wingnut probably until 2006 and was a strong supported of the Iraq war. It’s also absurd to think that supporting Snowden should be a default liberal position when it’s not. I have countless liberal followers who do not support Snowden or Greenwald one single bit. It’s absurd what he’s doing and seems to be some type of derangement he has with you.

He has the white supremacist Daniel Larison on his blog roll.

549 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 10:36:38am
550 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:37:15am

re: #548 wrenchwench

He has the white supremacist Daniel Larison on his blog roll.

He does or did? O.o

551 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:37:35am

re: #550 Gus

He does or did? O.o

Did yesterday.

552 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:39:00am

Larison’s blog (posted at The American Conservative) is called Eunomia.

553 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:40:26am

re: #544 HappyWarrior

Greenwald was a pretty big Bush cheerleader too at one time. Never stops him either.

Well, we all know that Greenwald is utterly shameless, so nobody should be the least bit surprised by this.

554 Justanotherhuman  May 29, 2014 10:40:45am

re: #549 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

As I noted yesterday, another smug dudebro.

555 Romantic Heretic  May 29, 2014 10:41:05am

re: #116 Gus

I once walked into a telephone pole in similar circumstances.

She was worth it.

556 A Mom Anon  May 29, 2014 10:42:17am

re: #497 Bubblehead II

I think we should all send the AFA post cards with Harvey Milk stamps that say Jesus Loves You.

557 Ed E. Lishus  May 29, 2014 10:42:36am

re: #548 wrenchwench

He also links to the dead ender of dead enders Jeralyn Merritt, so I take his blogroll with a grain of salt.

558 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:42:43am

re: #555 Romantic Heretic

I once walked into a telephone pole in similar circumstances.

She was worth it.

Since we’re confessing. I almost crashed into the back of a parked car. D’oh!

559 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 10:43:35am

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

IIRC, Blumenthal left al-Akhbar exactly because it went pro-Assad.

560 Ed E. Lishus  May 29, 2014 10:44:44am

re: #547 Pie-onist Overlord

Over the line?

562 Ed E. Lishus  May 29, 2014 10:45:21am

re: #558 Gus

My wife has done that. Twice. And that’s just since we’ve been married.

563 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:47:41am

re: #557 Ed E. Lishus

He also links to the dead ender of dead enders Jeralyn Merritt, so I take his blogroll with a grain of salt.

There is not enough salt in the sea to excuse Larison’s inclusion. Just my opinion, which seems to be fairly uncommon. I seem to surprise a lot of liberals with the news that Larison is a proud member of the League of the South.

Let me take this opportunity to say a few words about the League of the South, a group to which I am proud to belong for these past ten years. This group of ladies and gentlemen, for whom such terms still have their traditional meaning, endeavours to preserve their Southern, Christian cultural, religious and political heritage from the ravages of the same freethinking, Yankee spirit and empire that has gone on to devastate so many other societies, including that of those northern states gulled into the cause of Unionism. Though my lineage is almost entirely from the North, ours were the sort of conservative and republican people who opposed usurpation at every turn, and as much as my kinsman, William Plumer of New Hampshire, was right in arguing for secession over the illegalities of the Louisiana Purchase the Southern states were even more justified in resisting the usurpation of their rights. In the League of the South, I see the natural home of anyone who would honour and venerate the legacy of his ancestors and the early fathers of this country.

RTWT, if it’s not too close to lunch. He continues in the comments.

564 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 10:48:37am
565 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 10:48:43am

oh, hell no!

Real Life Mosquito Tornado Is Far More Terrifying Than Sharknado

While visiting Leziria Grande at Vila Franca de Xira in Portugal recently, photographer Ana Filipa Scarpa noticed something off in the distance that resembled a funnel cloud. But it wasn’t a tornado, or even a funnel for that matter. Rather, it was something… alive. What you’re seeing here is an insect swarm. A swarm of mosquitoes, to be exact.

There are photos at the link…

566 Ian G.  May 29, 2014 10:48:55am

So while right-wing Christians in the US deny the threat of environmental destruction, at least we have wise words from Pope Francis:

salon.com

I dunno, I feel like there are more than enough warnings in the Bible about the imminence of destruction if humankind doesn’t change its ways, but then again I’m not the kind of person who thinks Jesus and Ayn Rand are complementary philosophers.

567 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:49:41am

re: #563 wrenchwench

There is not enough salt in the sea to excuse Larison’s inclusion. Just my opinion, which seems to be fairly uncommon. I seem to surprise a lot of liberals with the news that Larison is a proud member of the League of the South.

RTWT, if it’s not too close to lunch. He continues in the comments.

Temptation. To. Send. Super. Snarky. Tweet.

568 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:51:38am

re: #567 Gus

Temptation. To. Send. Super. Snarky. Tweet.

Libs seem to love Larison because he’s not a neo-con. There are things worse than neo-cons, IMHO. They are isolationists. I see the appeal to a follower of Greenwald.

569 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:51:47am

re: #563 wrenchwench

There is not enough salt in the sea to excuse Larison’s inclusion. Just my opinion, which seems to be fairly uncommon. I seem to surprise a lot of liberals with the news that Larison is a proud member of the League of the South.

RTWT, if it’s not too close to lunch. He continues in the comments.

The defeat of the Confederacy, though the Confederate political experiment does not exhaust the richness of Southern culture and identity, was a defining moment when the United States took its steps towards the abyss of the monstrous centralised state, rootless society and decadent culture that we have today. In sum, the Confederacy represented much of the Old America that was swept away, and with it went everything meaningful about the constitutional republican system, and the degeneration of that system in the next hundred years was the logical and ultimately unstoppable result of Lincoln’s victory. All of this is in recognition that we are beholden to our ancestors for who we are, and we honour and remember their struggles and accomplishments not only because they can be established as reasonable, good and true but because they are the struggles and accomplishments of our people, who have made this land ours and sanctified it with their blood in defense against the wanton aggression of a barbarous tyranny.

570 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:53:12am

re: #569 Gus

It’s always difficult to select one paragraph out of that essay.

571 klys  May 29, 2014 10:54:09am

re: #457 Varek Raith

re: #468 Dr. Matt

re: #531 Rightwingconspirator

I linked this here yesterday - his wife is a musician (semi-known on the geeky circuit) so folks should feel free to check her albums and consider getting 1-2 in support if they so desire. She has a $6 minimum but you can always pay more if you want.

572 Kragar  May 29, 2014 10:55:27am
573 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 10:55:32am

hmmm…

574 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:55:36am
575 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:55:57am

re: #570 wrenchwench

It’s always difficult to select one paragraph out of that essay.

I always like last paragraphs. Seems like yet another neo-Confederate/race realist type.

576 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:56:08am
577 prairiefire  May 29, 2014 10:56:45am

re: #485 Sergey Romanov

The amorphous Russian ideology at the moment is a heavy mix of Stalinism and Christian Orthodoxy. When ppl have that swill in their heads instead of grey matter, that leads nowhere good.

That sounds like it could be very right wing!

578 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 10:58:04am
579 TedStriker  May 29, 2014 10:58:33am

re: #576 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

In other words, Snowden was full of shit when he said that he tried going through channels before he did his smash-grab-and-dash to HK and Russia.

Of course, that won’t stop him, GG, or any of their dudebro sycophants from claiming that the US government is withholding the “real truth”.

580 Gus  May 29, 2014 10:58:42am

re: #576 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Breaking alleged “whistleblower” didn’t save one document of his alleged contacts to the NSA with his whistleblowing grievances.

581 wrenchwench  May 29, 2014 10:59:04am

re: #575 Gus

I always like last paragraphs. Seems like yet another neo-Confederate/race realist type.

Exactly. His only regret being the ‘neo’ part of neo-Confederate. He wants to BE back there.

582 Rightwingconspirator  May 29, 2014 11:00:05am

re: #579 TedStriker

I think most of us suspected as much quite strongly from way back. Did not even trouble to try the actual internal process. He was scheming from day 1.

583 jaunte  May 29, 2014 11:00:21am

re: #580 Gus

You would think with Snowden’s ability to get away with documents he would have some that proved he had tried to complain through channels.

584 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 11:01:34am

today in history:

From wiki:

RMS Empress of Ireland was an ocean liner that sank in the Saint Lawrence River following a collision with the Norwegian collier SS Storstad in the early hours of 29 May 1914. Of the 1,477 persons on board the ship, 1,012 died.[1][2] The number of deaths is the largest of any Canadian maritime accident in peacetime.

Descendants of those who died in one of Liverpool’s greatest maritime disasters to attend commemoration service today

More than 50 direct descendants of people who died in one of Liverpool’s greatest shipping tragedies will attend a commemoration service today, 100 years to the day of the disaster.

The service for the 1,012 who were lost on RMS Empress of Ireland will take place in Liverpool Parish Church, as did the original memorial service for those who died 100 years ago.

585 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 11:01:39am

Wait, what, Rush plagiarized PETA?

587 Feline Fearless Leader  May 29, 2014 11:03:56am

re: #585 Pie-onist Overlord

Wait, what, Rush plagiarized PETA?

Would match the current view of the Washington political front. They have eyes, but the best thing to do with the insides of their heads is to boil, mash, and serve with butter or gravy and some fresh ground black pepper.
//

588 Targetpractice  May 29, 2014 11:05:43am

re: #586 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

What better way to make it clear just how much of a phallic symbol you view your gun of choice?

589 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 29, 2014 11:06:10am

re: #586 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

“Because the real one doesn’t work all that well :(“

590 NJDhockeyfan  May 29, 2014 11:06:25am

My kids are going to be excited.

591 lawhawk  May 29, 2014 11:06:41am

re: #583 jaunte

No log of incoming email from Snowden to IG or anyone else purporting whistleblowing or raising concerns. No provision of copy of sent email indicating the same.

IOW, he didn’t send anything raising those concerns through channels, and instead is now looking to retcon that he was trying to do things through channels before engaging in espionage and stealing NSA documents and spilling them to Greenwald and others, undermining US national security and foreign policy in the process - all in the hopes of disrupting US national security and foreign policy, as well as disrupting relations with allies and fomenting anger and vitriol against the US and other Western intel agencies that worked with the NSA or purported to share intel in some form.

He is a delusional fool who has manage to delude like minded people into thinking he’s a hero for undermining US national security. Ostensibly, it was about the NSA violating US civil rights, and yet document after document released and written about by Poitras, Greenwald, and others either indicates that there were protections in place, there were levels of scrutiny, or that the programs revealed had nothing to do with violating US law (US civil rights, US constitution or otherwise), but everything to do with revealing classified programs that had been working to gather intel on foreign persons/entities/countries.

BTW, has Greenwald named names yet on those who have been spied upon? Wasn’t there some deadly deadline he was going to wait until before revealing? I wait with baited breath.

592 jaunte  May 29, 2014 11:06:57am

re: #586 Pie-onist Overlord

“It was in the POOL!”

593 prairiefire  May 29, 2014 11:07:25am

re: #588 Targetpractice

What better way to make it clear just how much of a phallic symbol you view your gun of choice?

They put them on the back of pick up trucks around here.

594 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 29, 2014 11:08:09am

Washington — Ford Motor Co. is recalling 915,000 older Ford Escape and Mercury Mariner SUVs in North America for power steering problems, in the latest major recall this year.
The Dearborn automaker said it is calling back 2008-2011 Escape SUVs in North America under pressure from Canadian auto safety regulators, who have been investigating the issue since late 2011. Ford told the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration it has reports of five crashes and six injuries in U.S. crashes connected to the issue.
Ford said because of poor signal-to-noise issues in the torque sensor, the vehicles’ power steering system may shut off and default to manual steering, which could make it harder to steer and lead to a crash. Ford will notify owners by July 25.
From The Detroit News: detroitnews.com

595 Dr Lizardo  May 29, 2014 11:08:17am

re: #586 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Presumably, to substitute for their lack of the real deal.

596 jaunte  May 29, 2014 11:08:56am

re: #591 lawhawk

It’s pretty annoying to listen to him ask for proof of harm to US intelligence efforts. He knows damn well that giving specific proof of harm in most cases will reveal even more that should be kept secret.

597 ericblair  May 29, 2014 11:11:49am

re: #547 Pie-onist Overlord

Please do not insult the beloved Walter Sobchak by comparing him to John Cole.

Walter Sobchak: [shouting] Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules?

598 Pie-onist Overlord  May 29, 2014 11:12:24am

re: #594 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

:(

599 ObserverArt  May 29, 2014 11:15:19am

re: #576 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Hey Charles!

So, what did you think of the big Snowden interview last night? Would you care to give us a few comments. I’d be interested on your take because much of it seems to go to what many around here at LGF thought just days after it broke last year.

600 RealityBasedSteve  May 29, 2014 11:18:51am

re: #591 lawhawk

No log of incoming email from Snowden to IG or anyone else purporting whistleblowing or raising concerns. No provision of copy of sent email indicating the same.
///SNIPPAGE….

BTW, has Greenwald named names yet on those who have been spied upon? Wasn’t there some deadly deadline he was going to wait until before revealing? I wait with baited breath.

Of course there are no log, the NSA has changed the logs, and the logs of the changes of the logs…. /////

As for the baited breath, all I can say is that I’ve been that way since the initial announcement, and that piece of cheese is getting pretty nasty. I also found mice clustered around my pillow this morning.

RBS


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
Yesterday
Views: 83 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 256 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1