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Given the topic of the day, an appropriate song from the great John Hiatt: “Shredding the Document.”

Oh, what have you done with your life?
Oh, please don’t tell me
Just shut up and go to work
‘Cause you’re interrupting me

I won’t represent the U.S.
In the Summer Olympics
My character’s questionable
My life is a broken record

I’m shredding the documents
I’m keeping my mouth shut
I’m running on radio silence
I’m letting the record speak

I’m shredding the documents
The switchboard is lighting up
I’m not taking any more calls
Well maybe from Larry King

And I don’t know who killed who
I’m having a sex change
To a woman who loves too much
My sister’s a petty thief

I doctored the evidence
Yeah it was a cover up
I wanna stay wrapped in my blanket
And never get out of bed

I’m shredding the documents
I’m keeping my mouth shut
I’m running on radio silence
I’m letting the record speak

I’m shredding the documents
The switchboard is lighting up
I’m not taking any more calls
Well maybe from Larry King

All rumor and innuendo
An Eagles reunion
The 20th century’s closing
It’s closing in on me

You know what my father said
Well I’m not gonna tell you
Some words that I try to live by
It’s none of your goddamn business

I’m shredding the documents
I’m keeping my mouth shut
I’m running on radio silence
I’m letting the record speak

I’m shredding the documents
The switchboard is lighting up
I’m not taking any more calls
Well maybe from Larry King

I’m shredding the documents
The switchboard is lighting up
I’m not taking any more calls
Well maybe from Oprah Winfrey

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578 comments

1 freetoken  May 29, 2014 8:22:46pm

You know you’ve “made it” when Oprah calls you.

2 jaunte  May 29, 2014 8:25:24pm

“I wanna stay wrapped in my blanket
And never get out of bed”

I carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest,” he said. “There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn’t turn over, because harming people isn’t my goal. Transparency is.”
theguardian.com

3 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:26:22pm

re: #2 jaunte

“I wanna stay wrapped in my blanket
And never get out of bed”

OMFREAKIN’GOD!

Just dragging out his 15 minutes of fame to avoid prison time?

4 jaunte  May 29, 2014 8:27:49pm

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

That was from back when he was wrapped up in a hotel blanket in Hong Kong.

5 Charles Johnson  May 29, 2014 8:29:29pm

Greenwald is probably going to have a full-on assault ready tomorrow to counteract Snowden’s bad press today.

6 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:34:29pm
7 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:36:26pm
8 FemNaziBitch  May 29, 2014 8:51:09pm

nytol

9 Stanley Sea  May 29, 2014 8:54:10pm
10 teleskiguy  May 29, 2014 8:58:50pm

Charles,

Had to put another music video up so you didn’t have to keep staring at that tobacco sunburst Les Paul, Eh?

*gets ready to duck that chair that Charles is about to throw at me*

11 teleskiguy  May 29, 2014 9:02:09pm
12 freetoken  May 29, 2014 9:03:08pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

Here:

video.foxnews.com

and here:

Youtube Video

13 teleskiguy  May 29, 2014 9:07:56pm

Stanley Sea,

Did you read my winded stony response to this downstairs?

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Bottom line, we’ve lost respect for life.

14 Dark_Falcon  May 29, 2014 9:10:05pm

It’s about time for me to sign off for the night, but let me leave you with a pretty awesome photo of an Ukrainian Mi-24 ‘Hind’ on a strafing run:

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15 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:13:24pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

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Somehow I don’t think a guy who thinks women need to be able to marry underaged has a keen insight into what America’s problems are.

16 jaunte  May 29, 2014 9:15:20pm
17 Stanley Sea  May 29, 2014 9:16:53pm

re: #12 freetoken

Here:

video.foxnews.com

and here:

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No way in hell am I clicking that.

18 Lidane  May 29, 2014 9:17:28pm

re: #6 FemNaziBitch

Dear Reince,

People don’t see the GOP as a party of equality because you don’t govern like one.

You run on policies and pass laws that openly exclude women, minorities, LGBT people, and religious groups you don’t agree with. You pass laws that blatantly punish the poor to enhance the rich. What the hell part of any of that makes you think you’re a party of equality?

Party of equality my ass. You’re all a bunch of revanchist bigots that would send us back to the Dark Ages to please your masters. In short, fuck you.

No love,
Me

19 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:18:21pm

re: #18 Lidane

Dear Reince,

People don’t see the GOP as a party of equality because you don’t govern like one.

You run on policies and pass laws that openly exclude women, minorities, LGBT people, and religious groups you don’t agree with. You pass laws that blatantly punish the poor to enhance the rich. What the hell part of any of that makes you think you’re a party of equality?

Party of equality my ass. You’re all a bunch of revanchist bigots that would send us back to the Dark Ages to please your masters. In short, fuck you.

No love,
Me

They’re a party of equality alright. A party that treats everyone equally shitty not like them. Oh and when your party has been pushing for a federal ban on same sex marriage for years now. You lose any right to claim to be a party of equality. Sorry Reince, roll again, maybe you’ll get Boardwalk.

20 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 9:20:40pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

No way in hell am I clicking that.

That makes two of us!

21 Stanley Sea  May 29, 2014 9:20:58pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Stanley Sea,

Did you read my winded stony response to this downstairs?

I just did and yes, a purpose rather than a defense would be nice.

22 blueraven  May 29, 2014 9:21:18pm

I like to check in on Bruce Bartlett (ex republican, part of Reagan admin, now critic) every now and then. I usually find something that invites a snicker.

23 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 9:23:03pm

re: #2 jaunte

“I carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest,” he said. “There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn’t turn over, because harming people isn’t my goal. Transparency is.”
theguardian.com

Every single time Snowden or GG says something like that, I soooo want someone to ask him “And who the fuck are you to decide what’s to be secret or not? What gist of the overall picture of international relations and espionage to you possess you little shit?” Every. Single. Time.

But NOOOOOOO!

24 Stanley Sea  May 29, 2014 9:23:18pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Somehow I don’t think a guy who thinks women need to be able to marry underaged has a keen insight into what America’s problems are.

Tee bagger. Millionaires pretending to be good ole boys. Taking the rubes for the ride they deserve.

25 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:24:40pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Tee bagger. Millionaires pretending to be good ole boys. Taking the rubes for the ride they deserve.

Yep. Good money in that.

26 HappyWarrior  May 29, 2014 9:25:16pm

re: #22 blueraven

I like to check in on Bruce Bartlett (ex republican, part of Reagan admin, now critic) every now and then. I usually find something that invites a snicker.

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I’m sure that also applies to their understanding of basic economics and the Constitution as well.

27 Lidane  May 29, 2014 9:28:18pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Tee bagger. Millionaires pretending to be good ole boys. Taking the rubes for the ride they deserve.

They can screw the rubes over all day every day and twice on Sundays. I just wish they didn’t drag the rest of us down in the process.

28 Stanley Sea  May 29, 2014 9:28:31pm

Justanother Human brought back a saying I haven’t heard in awhile and am happy to assist in reviving……I’m gonna hit the rack. Night all.

29 teleskiguy  May 29, 2014 9:28:38pm

YAY!

30 simoom  May 29, 2014 9:34:25pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Greenwald is probably going to have a full-on assault ready tomorrow to counteract Snowden’s bad press today.

What I want to know is how today’s three question, narrowly focused WaPo interview came about, what were the terms, and how exactly it was conducted. There’s zero disclosure from WaPo (the interviewer isn’t even identified).

It reads like a one-question-at-a-time e-mail back and forth. One of Snowden’s earliest interviews was for the NYT Profile of Laura Poitras, which was focused on questions about her, and buried after the article was a brief note that the interview was conducted by e-mail, through Poitras as an intermediary. Was there again an intermediary between WaPo and Snowden? Who even pitched the interview (Greenwald? Snowden? Gellman?)

It’s frustrating that major papers obfuscate such basic background details, especially when so much of the Snowden affair is best understood as a deep collaboration between PR & media savvy activists.

31 teleskiguy  May 29, 2014 9:41:39pm

I find that if you’re perusing your own Twitter account (what with the new FB-style layout) if you click on “Tweets and Replies” it condenses your feed somewhat.

32 blueraven  May 29, 2014 9:41:42pm

re: #30 simoom

What I want to know is how today’s three question, narrowly focused WaPo interview came about, what were the terms, and how exactly it was conducted. There’s zero disclosure from WaPo (the interviewer isn’t even identified).

It reads like a one-question-at-a-time e-mail back and forth. One of Snowden’s earliest interviews was for the NYT Profile of Laura Poitras, which was focused on questions about her, and buried after the article was a brief note that the interview was conducted by e-mail, through Poitras as an intermediary. Was there again an intermediary between WaPo and Snowden? Who even pitched the interview (Greenwald? Snowden? Gellman?)

It’s frustrating that major papers obfuscate such basic background details, especially when so much of the Snowden affair is best understood as a deep collaboration between PR & media savvy activists.

Link?

33 simoom  May 29, 2014 9:48:23pm

re: #32 blueraven

Link?

It’s from earlier in the day:

washingtonpost.com

Here’s the attribution for who conducted the interview:

By The Washington Post, Published: May 29

Former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden responded to questions from The Washington Post following the release of an e-mail he had sent while working for the National Security Agency.

Though I just noticed in another WaPo article that links to the interview there’s a slight bit more detail:

washingtonpost.com

But in an e-mail to The Washington Post, Snowden, who last year leaked large quantities of classified documents to journalists and who is living in Russia under temporary asylum, called the official release “incomplete.”

So e-mail interview.

34 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 9:50:20pm

Not sure if Killgore Trout (I hate that one of Vonnegut’s characters is sullied so) is around, but that Bloomberg commencement speech he was concern-trolling over in the previous thread was Grade A third-way bullshit.

“Conservative Thought” has been a cancerous growth on the republic since its founding. It’s what kept slavery intact, “states rights” operational, initiated the Civil War, held back women from voting, perpetuated the subjugation of blacks throughout the sixties and continues to do its level best to push back against women’s rights, LBGT rights, worker’s rights, and protect and serve the wealthy and ignorant fools who think bygone eras were some sort of halcyon example of “civilized society.”

Fuck that noise.

/rant

35 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 29, 2014 9:58:28pm

Also, anyone who argues that the extremism in the GOP is a recent phenomenon needs to remember where folks like Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, etc. got their start. It wasn’t in the Reagan White House, that’s for damn sure.

36 blueraven  May 29, 2014 10:09:20pm

re: #33 simoom

It’s from earlier in the day:

washingtonpost.com

Here’s the attribution for who conducted the interview:

Though I just noticed in another WaPo article that links to the interview there’s a slight bit more detail:

washingtonpost.com

So e-mail interview.

So, he said this:

“Ultimately, whether my disclosures were justified does not depend on whether I raised these concerns previously,” Snowden said. “That’s because the system is designed to ensure that even the most valid concerns are suppressed and ignored, not acted upon.”

Moving the goalpost

37 Amory Blaine  May 29, 2014 10:25:15pm

Abele to release thousands of pages of emails from Doe probe

A pool of at least tens of thousands of emails will likely soon become available from aides to Gov. Scott Walker when he was Milwaukee County executive.

One person’s records consist of 25,000 to 40,000 emails, Milwaukee County Executive Chris Abele said in an interview Thursday. Prosecutors seized the computers of multiple people, but Abele said he did not know how many emails those others had exchanged.

Abele’s comments marked the most detailed explanation yet of the scope of the records in question.

38 D Koch  May 29, 2014 11:55:17pm
Greenwald is probably going to have a full-on assault ready tomorrow to counteract Snowden’s bad press today.

I’m so not up to speed. Would some one be nice enough to link to the bad press.

thanks in advance

39 Jayleia  May 30, 2014 12:00:57am

re: #38 D Koch

They let him talk. That’s more than enough bad press.

40 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 12:45:57am
41 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 1:05:53am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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The documents were sour anyway!

42 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 2:36:06am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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Hilarious to see how the strongest leg in the Dudebro/Snowden/Greenwald stool, the thing which is supposed to convince us that the jewel heist-like act of thievery of NSA documents was a patriotic act that only occurred after Snowden’s appeals to his superiors failed. I was so confident that they’d have this base covered, that I didn’t even try to find out what these supposed conscientious communiques purported to contain.

But it makes sense now, as others have pointed out, that if Snowden was such a genius superspy, why didn’t he keep a record of his attempts to resolve his ethical concerns through the proper channels? Further, if I were Greenwald, if such documents existed, I would lead with the device that covers the arse of my source if only to clear up first and foremost his status as a whistleblower and not expose him for a traitor.

This is why I do not believe that Greenwald directed Snowden to send a perfunctory email detailing any concern, however disappointingly uncritical it turned out to be.

Greenwald was smart to keep this facet of the story an assumed truth and let the overblown content of the documents themselves dictate the direction of the story. Snowden’s realisation of the reality of his current living arrangement is the turd in the punchbowl. Thanks to the Williams interview, the details of Snowden’s deception are being exposed, even if the initial thrust of it was the kind of poor journalism that has dominated the issue to date.

Snowden is a narcissist who bit off more than he could chew.
Greenwald has deliberately deflected attention away from his narrative’s weakpoints.
Now the whole thing is unravelling.

What act are we in now, I wonder.

43 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 30, 2014 2:44:18am

re: #42 Alyosha

Everytime your username pops up I think:

“Above all, don’t lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”

44 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 2:49:25am

re: #43 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Everytime your username pops up I think:

Not sure if that is from Dostoevsky, since it’s been about two years since I last read “The Brothers Karamazov” and we might be reading different translations, too.

45 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 2:50:00am

Sounds like something he’d say to Ivan.

46 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 2:51:01am

Dostoyevsky wrote lots of stuff, not everything being equally useful.

47 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 2:54:21am

re: #46 Sergey Romanov

Dostoyevsky wrote lots of stuff, not everything being equally useful.

Agreed. It’s the kind of thing that I can’t even read and say, “well, he is a product of his time” without cringing internally.
Psychologically, speaking, I feel he has few equals. Kafka and Nietzsche are probably peers.

48 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 30, 2014 3:34:55am

re: #46 Sergey Romanov

Dostoyevsky wrote lots of stuff, not everything being equally useful.

I’m reading Boswell’s accounts of Johnson, and it’s interesting how it veers between “Wow, Johnson’s saying some brilliant shit here” and “Wow, Johnson’s talking some shit here”.

49 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 3:41:00am

re: #48 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’s like that with brilliant ppl. Dostoyevsky’s essay “On the Jewish Question” is and always has been a hit with the Russian national-patriots and neo-Nazis. On the other hand, Semyon Reznik, a Russian-Jewish-American author and researcher has suggested that it would be a grave mistake for civilized ppl to give up on D. because of this one lapse - that would be a free present to the neo-Nazis, the one which they don’t deserve.

50 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 3:41:25am

Same thing with Wagner.

51 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 3:42:13am

So, basically what Ben Wizner and other “legal advisers” to Snowjob are saying is that you can’t trust anyone in govt, so you must—you must—commit crimes because your judgment is superior and you might be questioned by those who actually make the law and the Constitution itself. The same law Wizner, and other attorneys are sworn to uphold. Of course, that doesn’t go for non-practitioners like Godwald and non-lawyers like Sarah Harrison, nor does it apply to any FSB lawyer, either.

“Legal advisers to Snowden said the debate about what he did and didn’t report internally is a distraction because it was essentially impossible for him to blow the whistle through government channels on programs all three branches of government had blessed.

“This whole dispute is irrelevant. It’s a red herring,” the American Civil Liberties Union’s Ben Wizner said. “What does it mean to say he should have gone [through] channels? He should have called Congress and said, ‘I’m calling to report programs that you’ve approved in secret’? The problem was that the public had not been consulted as the NSA constructed and deployed a system of mass surveillance and there was no channel through which to raise those concerns, except to bring the public into that conversation.”

politico.com

In other words, fuck the US and all 3 branches of govt. We know much, much better what’s good for people, i.e., committing crimes and getting away with it.

I don’t see a lot of difference between people like Cliven Bundy and his “sovereign citizens” bullshit and these types. It’s all about what I want, what I judge is right, and the rest of you can all go fuck yourselves because we don’t need no stinking democracy.

52 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 3:48:27am

The Caucasian Knot confirms that the bodies of militants are arriving to Chechnya from the Ukraine: kavkaz-uzel.ru

53 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 3:58:16am

re: #49 Sergey Romanov

It’s probable that, if one were to delve deep enough, no significant person ever born was without some prejudicial taint. That will probably be true for a long time yet.

54 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 4:01:11am

re: #53 Alyosha

It’s probable that, if one were to delve deep enough, no significant person ever born was without some prejudicial taint. That will probably be true for a long time yet.

ftfy

55 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 4:15:47am

re: #52 Sergey Romanov

The Caucasian Knot confirms that the bodies of militants are arriving to Chechnya from the Ukraine: kavkaz-uzel.ru


Don’t you mean “To Ukraine from Chechnya”?

Deleted. Please excuse the comprehension error.

56 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:20:12am

Pie there!

57 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 4:22:43am

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Don’t you mean “To Ukraine from Chechnya”?

Eh?

58 A Mom Anon  May 30, 2014 4:22:54am

re: #56 Pie-onist Overlord

Yummy! And now I’m hungry….

59 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 4:23:40am

With all of its poverty and crime, I never understood why westerners went to India for “enlightenment”.

Children raped, forced to eat faeces in Indian school - police

reuters.com

NEW DELHI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - The owner and manager of a children’s boarding school in western India have been arrested after five minors said they were raped, forced to watch pornographic films and act them out with one another, police and charity workers said.

“The children were made to eat faeces as a punishment if they did not comply.

“The 52-year-old owner of the Chandraprabha Charitable Trust and his 30-year-old female manager were arrested on Monday after a police raid on the school in Karjat city in Maharashtra state.” More

60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 30, 2014 4:24:05am

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

Or do you mean that dead Chechens are being sent back home for burial?

Bad joke time…what do you call the remains of a Chechen who was blown up in a McDonald’s?

Chechen McNuggets!

61 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 4:25:42am

re: #57 Sergey Romanov

Eh?

Never mind, I figured it out.

62 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 4:25:51am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hmph.

63 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 30, 2014 4:28:44am

re: #62 Sergey Romanov

Hmph.

What do you call the same remains six weeks later?

The funky Chechen!

64 William Barnett-Lewis  May 30, 2014 4:30:53am

Well, done with my weekend spent moving and off to do a 7 to 3 shift on the grill.

Please don’t feed The Troll while I’m away.

65 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 4:30:55am

re: #59 Justanotherhuman

With all of its poverty and crime, I never understood why westerners went to India for “enlightenment”.

Children raped, forced to eat faeces in Indian school - police

reuters.com

NEW DELHI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - The owner and manager of a children’s boarding school in western India have been arrested after five minors said they were raped, forced to watch pornographic films and act them out with one another, police and charity workers said.

“The children were made to eat faeces as a punishment if they did not comply.

“The 52-year-old owner of the Chandraprabha Charitable Trust and his 30-year-old female manager were arrested on Monday after a police raid on the school in Karjat city in Maharashtra state.” More

The fault there is the corruption in India that often means the money for government schools is stolen and the teaching jobs are too often no-show or no-work patronage hand-outs. This forces parents to send their children to private schools with no state oversight. Some such schools are run by religious organizations, which provide some oversight, but others are entirely independent and India does not have the system of accreditation that the US employs.

66 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 4:32:27am

And gang rapes continue, also, along with “revenge”.

UP: Rape victim’s mother brutally beaten for refusing to withdraw case

zeenews.india.com

“Etawah: In a shocking incident, the mother of a rape victim was brutally beaten by the father of the accused in Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh Yadav’s home town Etawah in Uttar Pradesh.

(snip)

“The gruesome incident came to light after two teenage sisters were allegedly gang-raped and later hanged from a tree in Katra village in Badaun district on Wednesday.

“Four people, including a constable, accused in the gang-rape and murder of two minor girls in UP were arrested on Thursday.” More

67 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 4:33:10am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What do you call the same remains six weeks later?

The funky Chechen!

What do you call former protesters turned soldiers killed when the Russians shot down their chopper yesterday?

A Maidan sacrifice.

68 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 4:33:11am

Lesbian poetry as a Soviet rock song (1975):

Youtube Video

69 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:34:39am

I am sure Robin hell hood would love his log cabin in the woods, which he built by clearing the land, cutting down the trees, notching the logs. No electricity, no running water, no sanitations.

He is probably imagining living on a big tobacco plantation where he sits on the verandah sipping a julip while slaves do all the work.

70 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 4:35:44am

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

What are his plans for the African-Americans?

71 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:39:41am

re: #70 Sergey Romanov

What are his plans for the African-Americans?

I was thinking what are his plans for the Native Americans, since he wants to build his log cabin on their lands.

72 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 4:42:40am

re: #70 Sergey Romanov

What are his plans for the African-Americans?

“100% employment” apparently…

73 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 4:43:51am

re: #71 Pie-onist Overlord

I was thinking what are his plans for the Native Americans, since he wants to build his log cabin on their lands.

Future mascots? now everyone’s happy…

74 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:44:16am

re: #73 Alyosha

Future mascots? now everyone’s happy…

Never mind, now I know.

75 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:46:56am

Found this idiot in my timeline:

I responded to this idiotic meme:

76 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 4:47:35am

re: #68 Sergey Romanov

Lesbian poetry as a Soviet rock song (1975):

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I don’t think it’s ever been made clear that Sappho herself was a lesbian or ever engaged in sexual practices with other women. The use of the word “lesbian” didn’t originate until the 19th century. Sappho was a lyrical poet and esthete and little more is known about her than she had a daughter and was mocked by some men who questioned her love and respect for other women and who appreciated the beauty of women. I don’t think we can really make a judgment from fragments of poetry and what little is known of her life 2500 yrs ago. I think you would have had to be there.

But reputations persist.

77 A Mom Anon  May 30, 2014 4:49:49am

re: #74 Pie-onist Overlord

I was just looking for that, lol.

I seriously wish these fuckers would just pool their resources, buy an island and go ahead and create their government free society. I’d happily help them pack.

78 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 4:49:58am

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

BTW, regarding that shootdown in Ukraine yesterday, Jane’s has a good article on it:

Ukraine has lost another helicopter in fighting around Slavyansk in East Ukraine, Kiev confirmed on 29 May.

This is now the fourth helicopter shot down by pro-Russian separatists since the conflict in East Ukraine began. The loss is also the largest to date - with 12 personnel killed and one seriously injured when the Mil Mi-8 ‘Hip’ helicopter was downed, the Ukraine National Guard stated.

Acting President Oleksandr Turchynov separately confirmed the loss in a press conference, adding that the head of combat and special training for Ukraine’s National Guard, Major General Serhiy Kulchytskiy, was among the fatalities. Turchynov stated that the helicopter had been downed by a Russian-made man-portable air defence system (MANPADS).

Six of those killed were members of the national guard, with the other six being Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs special forces personnel, the national guard stated.

79 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 4:49:59am

re: #56 Pie-onist Overlord

Pie there!

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Morning!

Hey, that pie is like the one in the little logo graphic I created for you months ago! It has the dough lattice strips.

80 A Mom Anon  May 30, 2014 4:53:03am

Dog walkies, chores and the garden await. Have a good Pie Day!!

81 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:53:49am

re: #79 ObserverArt

Morning!

Hey, that pie is like the one in the little logo graphic I created for you months ago! It has the dough lattice strips.

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LOL how can I not use that for my new avatar. THANKS SO MUCH!

82 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 4:54:04am

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

What do you call former protesters turned soldiers killed when the Russians shot down their chopper yesterday?

A Maidan sacrifice.

Booo!

Come on Dark. Did you really need to post that?

83 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 4:54:04am

re: #79 ObserverArt

Loves it!

BBL

84 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 4:54:32am

re: #74 Pie-onist Overlord

Terra Nullius

Because they’re not really people.

85 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 4:54:47am

re: #77 A Mom Anon

I was just looking for that, lol.

I seriously wish these fuckers would just pool their resources, buy an island and go ahead and create their government free society. I’d happily help them pack.

Haha, they’d probably all be dead in 6 months.

Too generous a time frame?

86 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 4:54:47am

re: #76 Justanotherhuman

I didn’t say Sappho was lesbian (albeit Lesbian she surely was). I only said that the poetry was [L/l]esbian, which it was, both from the content and from the place of origin.

87 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:59:33am

Glenn finally gets around to playing the homophobia card, but not against Putin.

88 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 4:59:45am

re: #86 Sergey Romanov

I didn’t say Sappho was lesbian (albeit Lesbian she surely was). I only said that the poetry was [L/l]esbian, which it was, both from the content and from the place of origin.

OK, but she’s held up by many as an exemplar of female sexual love. I’d call her a feminist, way ahead of her time, a woman who appreciated other women and wrote about it, even if to her personally it was a platonic love.

89 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 5:01:09am

re: #81 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL how can I not use that for my new avatar. THANKS SO MUCH!

No problem. I enjoy doing little graphic things like that.

I’ve mentioned before, I used to go up to Detroit for both the old Grand Prix races and the CART sanctioned Indycar races out on Belle Isle. I saw last night on a racing forum the track on the Isle had a blowout from a water main break. And they have the race this weekend. Probably gonna cost the city bucks it doesn’t need to spend on the event. But hey…when Roger Penske says jump…people jump.

(And I will refrain from the actual racing politics and why I no longer go to the Indycar events.)

90 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 5:01:23am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn finally gets around to playing the homophobia card, but not against Putin.

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And it can be ignored if for The Cause.

91 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 5:01:36am

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

I am sure Robin hell hood would love his log cabin in the woods, which he built by clearing the land, cutting down the trees, notching the logs. No electricity, no running water, no sanitations.

He is probably imagining living on a big tobacco plantation where he sits on the verandah sipping a julip while slaves do all the work.

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So he wishes to disband the Army, dismantle the Air Force, and reduce the size of the Marines and Navy only to what is necessary to protect commerce from piracy?

Hell, I’m hip. Let’s ride.

92 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 5:06:06am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn finally gets around to playing the homophobia card, but not against Putin.

@BruceBarmer @TheLastWord The only thing that matters on some MSNBC shows is who helps Obama - homophobia is good if for The Cause

Ahhh, that would be the MSNBC shows that didn’t have him on and fawn all over him.

By my watch…Glenn’s 15 minutes are winding down. I expect we will be getting to the “Exorcist” (movie) stage next where he starts hurling, cussing and spinning his head. It will not be pretty, and he will take down as many as he can on the way.

93 Iwouldprefernotto  May 30, 2014 5:09:05am

re: #92 ObserverArt

Ahhh, that would be the MSNBC shows that didn’t have him on and fawn all over him.

By my watch…Glenn’s 15 minutes are winding down over. I expect we will be getting to the “Exorcist” (movie) stage next where he starts hurling, cussing and spinning his head. It will not be pretty, and he will take down as many as he can on the way.

Fixed

94 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 5:09:53am

Lately I have been hearing & seeing a bunch of radio & TV commercials from the carbon-burning industries about how cheap, abundant, GREAT JOBS, “safe” and “good for the environment” their products are.

No explanation of how that works, just BECUZ WE SAY SO!!!!!!

95 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 5:10:35am

They don’t really want to go back to the way things were back in the 1790s. Hell, if you really quiz them, most don’t even really want to go back to the way things were in the 1950s. The government has grown because the population has grown, because the needs of this nation have grown as it has expanded, advanced, and discovered the need for certain services to fall under the purview of a central government. The behemoth that they rail against didn’t spring fully grown like Athena from her father’s head, it was built in bits and pieces by generations of Americans who had to deal with the changes this nation went through over the course of 200+ years.

They certainly don’t want a return to the immigration policy of the 1790s, which was that all are welcome and if you pull your weight, you’re welcome to a piece of the pie. And if they said aloud they want to return to a time when Indians lived on everything west of the 13 colonies, black folks were legally classified as property, women had no vote or equality, and even men couldn’t vote if they didn’t own property, they’d be laughed out of any civilized gathering.

96 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 5:13:26am

I suppose Godwald and his minions will be questioning this as some kind of set up.

Israeli troops manning checkpoint inside West Bank catch Palestinian suicide bomber en route to an attack, military says - @AP
Read more on bigstory.ap.org

It’s all lies! The guy was delivering pies!

97 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 5:16:10am

I just saw we had co-champion national spelling bee champions this year.

Oh…and they both have dark skin. That ought to drive a few loons nuts, if you get my drift.

Pretty cool. Congrats kids.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 5:18:05am

re: #97 ObserverArt

I just saw we had co-champion national spelling bee champions this year.

Oh…and they both have dark skin. That ought to drive a few loons nuts, if you get my drift.

Pretty cool. Congrats kids.

HURR HURR!!!! ARE AMURIKAN WHITE KIDZ CANTS SPEL BECUZ OF OBUMA’S COMMIE COAR!!!!!!!!!

99 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 5:21:16am

Wingnuts keep spamming this meme. They can’t comprehend that game wardens do not have the authority to patrol the border. Unless they think there should be “open season” on Teh Brown Peoples? Also: armpit huntress has a fancy expensive bow, no way is she subsistence hunting to feed a hungry family.

100 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 5:22:18am
101 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 5:27:04am

Good morning lizards!

Looks like the we dodged a bullet…

‘Asteroid to hit Earth’ story goes up on CNN, people believe it
A user posts a fake news piece to CNN’s iReport news hub. It stays live for 22 hours before someone realizes it must surely not be true.

‘Asteroid to hit Earth’ story goes up on CNN, people believe it

102 urbanmeemaw  May 30, 2014 5:30:14am

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Have you read Dallas 1963? It illustrates your point perfectly.

103 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 5:36:24am

It’s morning, it’s nice out and the birds are very talkative.

you?

104 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 5:40:26am

Government needs to scaled back to what it was in the 90s..the 1790s.

When do we give Louisiana back to France and California and Texas back to Mexico?

105 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 5:44:20am

Government needs to scaled back to what it was in the 90s..the 1790s.

No navy to speak of, no standing army. But I realize there’s not a whole lot of thinking going on with this tweeter.

106 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:46:04am

re: #105 Bulworth

Government needs to scaled back to what it was in the 90s..the 1790s.

No navy to speak of, no standing army. But I realize there’s not a whole lot of thinking going on with this tweeter.

First we need to get rid of the FAA and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

107 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:48:34am

re: #104 Bulworth

Government needs to scaled back to what it was in the 90s..the 1790s.

When do we give Louisiana back to France and California and Texas back to Mexico?

Hell we’ll have to start speaking Spanish again in this part of Alabama. That will never do…

108 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 5:49:34am

re:
#97
ObserverArt

I just saw we had co-champion national spelling bee champions this year.

Oh…and they both have dark skin. That ought to drive a few loons nuts, if you get my drift.

Why our they allow non-Americans in these spelling bees??!!!1

109 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:53:00am

re: #108 Bulworth

re:
#97
ObserverArt

Why our they allow non-Americans in these spelling bees??!!!1

That would be like having Canadians in the NHL.

110 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 5:55:53am

re: #101 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Looks like the we dodged a bullet…

Thing about an asteroid impact is that, given how little of the world’s budget is put towards finding and tracking celestial objects which could pose a danger to Earth, we likely wouldn’t know we’re about to get rocked until just before impact.

111 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 5:56:28am
Alinsky, in his writings and deeds, was an explicit anti-communist. Alinsky, Rules, p. 10:

The Secret Hillary Rodham Clinton, Part I

We have permitted a suicidal situation to unfold wherein revolution and communism have become one. These pages are committed to splitting this political atom, separating this exclusive identification of communism with revolution. If it were possible for the Have-Nots of the world to recognize and accept the idea that revolution did not inevitably mean hate and war, cold or hot, from the United States, that alone would be a great revolution in world politics and the future of man.

Anti-communism was not a popular position for a man of the left to take in his era. Moreover, Alinsky personally advised Cardinal Montini, who would go on to become Pope Paul VI, on how to counter the Italian Communist Party. Alinsky also was an intimate of the great Catholic philosopher Jacques Maritain who praised, in a letter to Alinsky, Rules for Radicals. (For the record, let us note, Alinsky of course also abjured Joe McCarthy’s demagoguery masquerading as anti-communism.)

112 darthstar  May 30, 2014 5:59:01am
113 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:01:27am

re: #112 darthstar

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Our gun laws are being re-formed. Since the Brady Bill they have become considerably more lax.

114 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 6:01:45am
115 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:04:30am

re: #112 darthstar

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Think the high water mark for gun control in this country was in the immediate wake of Columbine with the Assault Weapons Ban. Since it’s passage, the NRA’s puppet politicians have scared federal agencies into silence about gun violence, have handicapped the gun control laws already in force, and have spread misinformation about how such laws are “ineffective” and that Americans need even more guns to protect them from all the guns that are floating around out there.

116 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:06:57am

re: #114 NJDhockeyfan

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Won’t be enough. The demands for his head will continue on until either he voluntarily resigns or the President demands his resignation. The clock’s ticking on when the Dem leadership will unanimously join in the calls for his surrender.

117 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:08:34am

re: #115 Targetpractice

Think the high water mark for gun control in this country was in the immediate wake of Columbine with the Assault Weapons Ban. Since it’s passage, the NRA’s puppet politicians have scared federal agencies into silence about gun violence, have handicapped the gun control laws already in force, and have spread misinformation about how such laws are “ineffective” and that Americans need even more guns to protect them from all the guns that are floating around out there.

In hard measurable terms, the AWB was allowed to lapse and Heller invalidated many local laws. The ‘shall issue’ states and reciprocity means the raw number of legal carries has expanded. Laws prohibiting even the funding of gun impact study are going on the books.

118 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 6:09:13am

White House says President Obama will meet with Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki at 10:15 am ET in the Oval Office - @nedrapickler
see original on twitter.com

119 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 6:12:44am

re: #116 Targetpractice

Won’t be enough. The demands for his head will continue on until either he voluntarily resigns or the President demands his resignation. The clock’s ticking on when the Dem leadership will unanimously join in the calls for his surrender.

It’s already starting…

120 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:15:14am

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

It’s already starting…

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It’s an election year, so of course Democrats who either are in close races or fear that this “scandal” could hurt those who are will be quick to call for his head. TPM had a story yesterday about how Pelosi is still refusing to join the angry mob, but I’m not sure she can really do much besides try to offer him her support. The White House is very likely going to shit can him, either publicly or by privately asking for his resignation, if only to give the appearance of “doing something.”

121 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 6:16:12am

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

It’s already starting…

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All politics.

But hey, I’ll have no problem just so long as Johnny McCain also resigns due to the Phoenix issues being in his own state and right under his nose.

We can all play politics, if that is what most want.

122 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 6:16:46am

How We All Miss the Point on School Shootings

But this “witch hunt” we go through every time a school shooting happens is a total ruse. Elliot Rodger didn’t become a killer because he was a misogynist; he became a misogynist because he was a killer. Just like Eric Harris didn’t become a killer because he loved violent video games; he loved violent video games because he was a killer. Just like Adam Lanza didn’t become a killer because he loved guns; he loved guns because he was a killer.

123 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 6:17:23am

re: #120 Targetpractice

Read the Gates book?

Insights into this scandal abound.

124 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:17:24am

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

It’s already starting…

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As a former 4-star, he knows the drill. Our staff section was (several layers) under him when he was Chief of Staff. He was pretty impressive.

125 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 30, 2014 6:19:14am

re: #123 Rightwingconspirator

Read the Gates book?

Insights into this scandal abound.

I haven’t been following this, so what is the scandal? The deprivation of funding to the VA?

126 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 30, 2014 6:21:04am

Why is Shikensi being blamed, and for what? Vets are happier with the VA than the average person with market insurance is with their insurance. The GOP has been denying vets funding for years now. Any systemic problems in the VA probably have their roots before he started, what’s the connection to him and his leadership?

127 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 6:21:52am

IMHO-Shinseki is getting screwed over again. The worlds finest manager/leader/general/President can’t make things happen for which the resources don’t exist.

It’s a microcosm of where our medical system could fail, an example of what happens in any medical benefit/insurance system when funding in woefully inadequate long term. Shuffle the execs all ya want ya can’t fix without more money.

Maybe the ACA keeps that happening overall. But the VA needs billions.

128 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 6:21:58am

Just think of how much help to the Veterans Administration “W” Bush could have been if we didn’t start the Iraq war.

129 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 6:22:05am

This is from last Oct. Have they met yet?

Pierre Omidyar has never met Glenn Greenwald

politico.com

Astute commenter said, and he was right on the mark:

“Greenwald will screw Omidyar over in the end, just like he’s done to everyone else.

“Glenn Greenwald is the world’s most insufferable human.”

130 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:22:17am

re: #125 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I haven’t been following this, so what is the scandal? The deprivation of funding to the VA?

The “scandal” so far consists of allegations, some of them seemingly substantiated by the IG’s interim report, that VA hospitals in Arizona were sending bullshit reports and estimated waiting times back to D.C., as well as keeping a secret list of appointments separate from their official ones that resulted in vets dying without ever receiving care. There’s a strong argument to be made that the 14 day standard waiting period that was set some time back during Shinseki’s watch were unrealistic with the resources the VA has to work with, but that’s getting swept aside in favor of the usual “OFF WITH HIS HEAD!” rhetoric that grips D.C. anytime the scent of a scandal wafts through the halls of Congress.

131 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:22:20am

re: #126 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Why is Shikensi being blamed, and for what? Vets are happier with the VA than the average person with market insurance is with their insurance. The GOP has been denying vets funding for years now. Any systemic problems in the VA probably have their roots before he started, what’s the connection to him and his leadership?

To encourage the others.

132 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 6:24:02am

Meanwhile Alex Jones posts more shocking photos of the Bilderberg conference in Copenhagen…

133 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 6:24:59am

re: #126 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Why is Shikensi being blamed, and for what? Vets are happier with the VA than the average person with market insurance is with their insurance. The GOP has been denying vets funding for years now. Any systemic problems in the VA probably have their roots before he started, what’s the connection to him and his leadership?

The connection would be Barack Obama.

All problems start with Barack Obama. Once he is out of office, America will no longer have problems and it will be “Happy Days are Here Again”…again.

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134 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 6:25:15am

re: #126 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Why is Shikensi being blamed, and for what? Vets are happier with the VA than the average person with market insurance is with their insurance. The GOP has been denying vets funding for years now. Any systemic problems in the VA probably have their roots before he started, what’s the connection to him and his leadership?

They have to have a scapegoat, even if they’re wrong. Shinseki has already said he is bearing full responsibility—something others haven’t owned up to yet.

135 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:25:57am

re: #133 ObserverArt

The connection would be Barack Obama.

All problems start with Barack Obama. Once he is out of office America will no longer have problems and it will be “Happy Days are Here Again”…again.

///+///x2

Not if we shove HRC down their throats.

136 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:27:41am

In a sane world, the President would go before the people and tell them that forcing Shinseki’s resignation would be a massive mistake if the goal is to improve the VA, rather than simply to score political points in the lead-up to midterm elections. That it will take months for a replacement secretary to be nominated, go through committee, and ultimately be voted upon by the Senate. Atop that will be the months that will be necessary for the new secretary to become familiar with how the VA works, to be brought up to speed with the problems in the system, and who can and can’t be trusted to competently do their jobs.

But it’s not a sane world, so he’s likely to give into the angry mob’s demands by either demanding Shinseki’s resignation or quietly sitting to the side until the man can’t take the pressure any longer and resigns just to get away from it.

137 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 6:28:20am

God is in the Neurons
Youtube Video

138 darthstar  May 30, 2014 6:29:24am
139 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 6:29:28am

Some interesting comments from the GOP on Capital Hill about calling for Shinsheki’s resignation:

Representative Jeff Miller of Florida, chairman of the House Veterans Affairs Committee, had resisted calling for Mr. Shinseki’s resignation for days, saying it would turn attention first to the search for a successor, then to confirmation hearings, and finally it would force a “honeymoon” period to let the new secretary get a team in place and start fresh. Then this week he changed course.

“Look, they are not going to get a honeymoon,” Mr. Miller promised Thursday.

I don’t have a particular allegiance to Shinsheki or any cabinet member and ultimately the buck stops with the executive leadership. And the delays for care and cover-ups involved are awful. Our veterans deserve much better. At the same time, it seems clear there are some deep-rooted problems that merely changing the head may not immediately cure.

“The question I ask myself is, ‘Is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? Is it going to help us find out what’s really going on?’ And the answer I keep getting is no,” Mr. Boehner told reporters. “This is more than just about phony waiting lists. This is also about the quality of care we provide for our veterans.”

nytimes.com

140 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 6:32:48am

I think universal health care should be the goal. Why should we have so many different programs doing the same thing for people? The VA, now ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, State programs, etc. The profit motive should be removed for something as essential and necessary as health care.

Think of the waste you could save by combining all of them into one comprehensive program that served everyone and was tailored to individual needs, like children, vets, the elderly, etc. Research wouldn’t have to be driven by profit, neither would health care, medicine, or other related services and products.

I know you can’t make some people care for and about others, but you should can make it much harder for them to profit from the suffering of others.

141 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:34:43am

Then again, perhaps I’m being too pessimistic. The President ignored calls to force Holder’s resignation in the nothingburger that was “Fast & Furious.” He stood by Hillary when the wingnuts wanted her resignation over BENGHAZI!!!. And he didn’t give into Congressional pressure to fire Sibelius over the initially poor rollout of healthcare.gov. So he may very well go the press and tell them he has faith in Shinseki to tackle the identified problems and will not be calling for his resignation.

142 darthstar  May 30, 2014 6:34:47am
143 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 6:35:47am

re: #139 Bulworth

Some interesting comments from the GOP on Capital Hill about calling for Shinsheki’s resignation:

I don’t have a particular allegiance to Shinsheki or any cabinet member and ultimately the buck stops with the executive leadership. And the delays for care and cover-ups involved are awful. Our veterans deserve much better. At the same time, it seems clear there are some deep-rooted problems that merely changing the head may not immediately cure.

nytimes.com

Boehner is a liar. This has been going on for many years, and while money can’t cure bad leadership, it can be used to help vets themselves by funding what they need.

144 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  May 30, 2014 6:36:08am

re: #141 Targetpractice

Then again, perhaps I’m being too pessimistic. The President ignored calls to force Holder’s resignation in the nothingburger that was “Fast & Furious.” He stood by Hillary when the wingnuts wanted her resignation over BENGHAZI!!!. And he didn’t give into Congressional pressure to fire Sibelius over the initially poor rollout of healthcare.gov. So he may very well go the press and tell them he has faith in Shinseki to tackle the identified problems and will not be calling for his resignation.

Shinseki may not want to get dragged through the mud for months and months by assholes like McCain and the rest of the GOP, attacking him for problems they’re more culpable for.

145 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 6:36:24am

So a few short weeks ago the Clipper were said to be worth 500 mil to maybe 800 mil.

The offer is 2 billion. Is that 800 mil for the team and 1.2 billion hush/go away money? Platinum parachute for a despicable ass.

147 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 6:37:35am

re: #142 darthstar

Just sent-Make that a money clip. Two billion.

148 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:38:12am

re: #144 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Shinseki may not want to get dragged through the mud for months and months by assholes like McCain and the rest of the GOP, attacking him for problems they’re more culpable for.

According to sources, the purpose of today’s meeting between him and the President is to see if he feels he’s up to the task. I wouldn’t fault him for not wanting to spend the next two years being drug through the mud, but I have enough faith in the man to believe that he wants to do what’s best for our veterans. And spending the better part of the next two years putting somebody new in charge would be time wasted, time many of our vets don’t have.

149 Feline Fearless Leader  May 30, 2014 6:40:25am

re: #126 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Why is Shikensi being blamed, and for what? Vets are happier with the VA than the average person with market insurance is with their insurance. The GOP has been denying vets funding for years now. Any systemic problems in the VA probably have their roots before he started, what’s the connection to him and his leadership?

Being at the top when the shit hit the fan. That is all.

150 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 6:41:05am

Donald Sterling will receive $2 Billion for a team that he paid $12 Million for!

And he’s still bitching that his “punishment” is too harsh.

151 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 6:42:15am

Add 2 more Dems to the list calling for Shineski’s resignation.

Tim Kaine, Mark Warner push for Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shineski to resign

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Virginia’s Democratic U.S. senators are calling on Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shineski to resign.

Thursday, Sens. Timothy M. Kaine and Mark R. Warner joined the growing number of lawmakers calling for Shineski’s resignation.

Shinseki faces calls to resign from Republicans and Democrats in Congress because of an escalating scandal about problems in the VA’s nationwide health care system.

152 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:42:19am

re: #149 Feline Fearless Leader

Being at the top when the shit hit the fan. That is all.

Occupational hazard in D.C.

153 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:44:41am

re: #150 Pie-onist Overlord

Donald Sterling will receive $2 Billion for a team that he paid $12 Million for!

And he’s still bitching that his “punishment” is too harsh.

He’s bitching because owning the team isn’t about the money, it’s about the bragging rights. It’s about being able to tell his fellow rich assholes that they may have a gold-plated yacht, but he owns an NBA team.

154 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 6:47:17am

re: #153 Targetpractice

He’s bitching because owning the team isn’t about the money, it’s about the bragging rights. It’s about being able to tell his fellow rich assholes that they may have a gold-plated yacht, but he owns an NBA team.

1% People Problems.

155 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 6:55:13am

re: #149 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m not 100% sure, but I could swear it was you who posted a pic a month or two ago of a meal with some bread that I wanted to ask about because the texture looked like the sort I prefer (“toothy” not squishy) and it looked like it might have been made in a bread maker. Was it you, or is my memory foggy? I’m asking because I’m looking for a decent bread machine recipe.

156 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 6:57:14am

Well, off to play more XCOM, BBIAB.

157 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 7:00:16am

Pro-Russian assholes grab a busload of kids…

…and send them to….camp?

158 Feline Fearless Leader  May 30, 2014 7:00:37am

re: #155 CuriousLurker

I’m not 100% sure, but I could swear it was you who posted a pic a month or two ago of a meal with some bread that I wanted to ask about because the texture looked like the sort I like (“toothy” not squishy) and it looked like it might have been made in a bread maker. Was it you, or is my memory foggy? I’m asking because I’m looking for a decent bread machine recipe.

Looking for meal pictures including bread:

From April 13th -
Moroccan Lamb Stew, Cheese Bread, and a nice Reisling

Back in January -

159 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:01:06am

I met a youngish vet the other day with major back problems resulting from an accident while active. This person they don’t and would never to to the VA.

I didn’t ask, but was wondering what insurance company paid for all the treatments and surgeries?

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the VA to become just an insurance company regarding medical treatment. Why does the military need it’s own facilities, doctors etc?

I’m not advocating privatization per se, it just seems there is a lot of duplication in the system. Why should a vet have to accept substandard care just because it’s the VA?

Our Vets deserve the best treatment possible and they deserve for us to pay for it.

160 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 7:02:11am

re: #158 Feline Fearless Leader

Looking for meal pictures including bread:

From April 13th -
Moroccan Lamb Stew, Cheese Bread, and a nice Reisling

That one—that’s it! Is that bread machine bread?

161 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 7:03:07am

Sorry, but these “shoes” are truly awful.

reuters.com

162 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:03:53am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

God is in the Neurons
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This is a fairly short video 20 some minutes, but very interesting.

Just the concept of mirror neurons has reeling. OH, Dr. Seuss, the thoughts we could have.

163 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 7:04:12am

Matt Barber is the gay devil spawn of Bryan Fischer and Erick Erickson.

164 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:06:44am

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

Sorry, but these “shoes” are truly awful.

reuters.com

But will they work for the old lady with balance issues?

165 Feline Fearless Leader  May 30, 2014 7:07:53am

re: #160 CuriousLurker

Nope. A cheese bread loaf purchased from a Wegman’s. It’s fairly squishy, but has cheese in it. (Some also have sliced hot peppers included with the cheese.) I prefer toasting it personally to stiffen it up a little bit when eating it with stew.

The loaf in the other picture is an “old fashioned round” from Metropolitan Bakery in Philadelphia. One reason I have not bothered with messing with a bread machine and such is that a 4-5 block walk can get me a loaf or baguette from a professional bakery.

166 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:08:07am

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

Matt Barber is the gay devil spawn of Bryan Fischer and Erick Erickson.

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All public bathrooms will have to be the same!!!!!

167 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 7:08:20am

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

Sorry, but these “shoes” are truly awful.

reuters.com

Heh, yeah—gorgeous girl, clever idea, fugly shoes.

168 Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2014 7:08:41am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Just think of how much help to the Veterans Administration “W” Bush could have been if we didn’t start the Iraq war.

Walter Reed Medical Center

169 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 7:09:07am

LOLWUT wingnuts spamming Snowden quotes now.

170 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 7:09:45am

re: #165 Feline Fearless Leader

Nope. A cheese bread loaf purchased from a Wegman’s. It’s fairly squishy, but has cheese in it. (Some also have sliced hot peppers included with the cheese.) I prefer toasting it personally to stiffen it up a little bit when eating it with stew.

The loaf in the other picture is an “old fashioned round” from Metropolitan Bakery in Philadelphia. One reason I have not bothered with messing with a bread machine and such is that a 4-5 block walk can get me a loaf or baguette from a professional bakery.

Drat! Both of them look & sound delicious. I’m sooooo jealous that you live that close to a bakery.

171 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:10:41am

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

Matt Barber is the gay devil spawn of Bryan Fischer and Erick Erickson.

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Same brand of bullshit arguments I heard from my father in the 1970’s. Except it’s not the 1970’s and

172 Feline Fearless Leader  May 30, 2014 7:11:42am

re: #170 CuriousLurker

Drat! Both of them look & sound delicious. I’m sooooo jealous that you live that close to a bakery.

Wegman’s expanded into NJ a while back. Not sure where/if one is anywhere close to you though. Before they got into eastern PA I used to hit the one in Bridgewater when coming back to Philly from visiting friends in Parsippany.

174 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 7:12:43am

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

Sorry, but these “shoes” are truly awful.

reuters.com

Can’t see the vid. Are those Lady Gaga’s meat shoes?/

175 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 7:14:36am

re: #164 FemNaziBitch

But will they work for the old lady with balance issues?

Only orthopedics made to order more than likely. : )

Never much into shoes myself. Plain (mostly black or navy) with small heels and athletic shoes, maybe a pair of sandals and flip flops. Served every occasion. But I’m rather a conservative dresser anyway.

176 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 7:15:23am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT wingnuts spamming Snowden quotes now.

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And Snowden was doing neither with his engaging in espionage.

He wasn’t questioning the constitutionality of the NSA’s work. He was subverting the entire national security apparatus because he thought he knows better than the government.

And he’s got a willing accomplice in the form of Greenwald.

177 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 7:16:23am

re:
#169
Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT wingnuts spamming Snowden quotes now.

They’re running out of material, I see.

178 Feline Fearless Leader  May 30, 2014 7:17:31am

re: #177 Bulworth

re:
#169
Pie-onist Overlord

They’re running out of material, I see.

Snowden’s next email to the NSA will be, “Please sir. May I steal more documents? Otherwise I will lose my meal ticket!”
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179 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 7:17:41am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT wingnuts spamming Snowden quotes now.

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Being a patriot, at the very least, must entail the capacity to determine when the country’s interests have been damaged and its security undermined. Am I wrong?

180 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 7:18:58am

Equal Rights Amendment: A War on Women
t.co via @barbwirecom — Matt Barber

Matt Barber has women’s best interests in mind. Anything he has to say on this subject is fair and balanced and totally reasonable. ////

181 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:19:41am

It’s a bit better on the allergy front today.

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 05/30/2014

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Pollen & Mold Summary
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Trees: High Concentration
Weeds: Moderate Concentration
Grass: High Concentration
Mold: Moderate Concentration

182 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 7:19:43am

re: #139 Bulworth

183 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:20:44am

re: #170 CuriousLurker

Drat! Both of them look & sound delicious. I’m sooooo jealous that you live that close to a bakery.

Bakery Says It Will Finally Get Around To Cleaning Neighbor’s Flour-Covered House

184 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:21:36am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

Only orthopedics made to order more than likely. : )

Never much into shoes myself. Plain (mostly black or navy) with small heels and athletic shoes, maybe a pair of sandals and flip flops. Served every occasion. But I’m rather a conservative dresser anyway.

I love, I mean, LOVE shoes. All kinds of shoes.

So, if her funky shoes were comfy, I might try them.

185 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 7:21:50am

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

Wegman’s expanded into NJ a while back. Not sure where/if one is anywhere close to you though. Before they got into eastern PA I used to hit the one in Bridgewater when coming back to Philly from visiting friends in Parsippany.

*sigh* No, the only stores in these parts are ShopRite & Pathmark, and SR has the better bakery/deli. The only other options are dinky little grocery stores (like C-Town and Bravo) that are awful.

I bought a bread machine a few months ago, but haven’t used it yet. I have all the ingredients I could possibly need—a jar of yeast; whole wheat, rye, and unbleached bread flours; sesame, poppy, flax, and raw sunflower seeds—the only thing lacking is a good, tested recipe.

186 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 7:22:28am

re: #179 Alyosha

“Patriot” isn’t a word with which I’m comfortable anyhow, but by definition, doesn’t the security and integrity of one’s state necessarily take primacy?

187 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:23:27am

re: #186 Alyosha

“Patriot” isn’t a word with which I’m comfortable anyhow, but by definition, doesn’t the security and integrity of one’s state necessarily take primacy?

Yeah, it’s basically become synonymous with wingnut, conservative and WHACKO.

188 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 7:25:16am

re: #180 Bulworth

Equal Rights Amendment: A War on Women
t.co via @barbwirecom — Matt Barber

Matt Barber has women’s best interests in mind. Anything he has to say on this subject is fair and balanced and totally reasonable. ////

Matt Barber only cares about Teh Fetus Wimmenz. After they are born, they are just TEH SLUTZ!!!!!

189 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 7:26:11am

re:
#182
Lawhawk

Agree about the need for more funding. I was just surprised Boehner wasn’t calling for Shinsheki’s head as well. He seems to be more cautious about this than I would have supposed.

190 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 7:27:17am

The Demon Barber of Efreet Street.

191 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:30:28am

The Surprising Failures of 12 Steps

When, as a culture, we ascribe the addict the lowest possible social value, is it any wonder why they flock to a fellowship of equally alienated individuals with common lived-experiences? Organizations like AA? It’s true addicts are deserving of treatment plans based in something more than blind faith—Dodes’s argument is more than persuasive in that regard—but pills and therapy and data and evidence aren’t necessarily enough to treat a condition so inherently linked to emotional wellbeing and self-worth. The addict, like any human, craves community. And if the greater community persists in shunning and shaming addicts, and AA remains the only door left ajar, then it’s to AA the addicts will go. And who could blame them?

192 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 7:32:00am

re: #187 FemNaziBitch

Which is why the term is so changeable and problematic. It adjusts to the wind of public dissent so that the commonest form of outrage against the state is claimed to be ‘true’ patriotism. It’s just hot air. Political realism isn’t particularly sexy, but if Obama’s presidency has taught me anything, it’s how the edifice of the state endures and has a sort of pragmatic continuity.

The gods help us if the extremists ever take power.

193 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:32:26am

The thing about the 12-steps.

I am a recovering alcoholic who doesn’t attend regular meetings anymore. I don’t have the compusion to drink, yet I do not know what I would do if I didn’t know there was a meeting I could attend, probably right now somewhere in Chicagoland.

The power of community (fellowship) is a strange thing.

194 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 7:32:29am

re: #189 Bulworth

Maybe he knows that a confirmation hearing on a new VA head would expose the fact that Congress hasn’t been funding the VA as it should, and that the pressure to do more with less has resulted in less.

That and the fact that replacing Shinseki, which would be a show of accountability is just that - show. Fixing the problem requires money - money that the GOP is unwilling to spend in their almighty quest to chop government spending without touching defense spending (VA is a separate line). Spend on tanks, but ignore the men who operate them especially after they’ve separated from service.

195 palomino  May 30, 2014 7:32:45am

re: #125 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I haven’t been following this, so what is the scandal? The deprivation of funding to the VA?

That should be the scandal.

196 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:36:19am
197 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:37:19am
198 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:38:20am
199 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 7:38:58am

Amid all the awfulness coming in with my Google alerts, I have to say that it makes me feel better to see some in the Jewish community pushing back against Pamela Geller’s latest hatefulness:

Ugly Muslim Bashing

An Antidote for Islamophobia

And on that positive note, it’s time for me to get back to work. Later, lizards.

200 Feline Fearless Leader  May 30, 2014 7:41:42am

re: #185 CuriousLurker

*sigh* No, the only stores in these parts are ShopRite & Pathmark, and SR has the better bakery/deli. The only other options are dinky little grocery stores (like C-Town and Bravo) that are awful.

I bought a bread machine a few months ago, but haven’t used it yet. I have all the ingredients I could possibly need—a jar of yeast; whole wheat, rye, and unbleached bread flours; sesame, poppy, flax, and raw sunflower seeds—the only thing lacking is a good, tested recipe.

That does sound like your best option. Most grocery stores (in my opinion) have fairly lousy in-store bakery bread. Wegman’s is fortunately one of the exceptions. Luckily the last two places I have lived had a decent local option for a good loaf of Italian bread.

201 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:41:51am

There is a lot of this type of graphic floating around social media regarding veterans:

202 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:45:13am
203 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 7:46:32am

re: #202 FemNaziBitch

In defense of old white men

WHITE MANS IS TEH VICTIMZ!!!!! THEY ARE TEH MOAST VICTIMZ!!!!

I’m heading out to the auctioneer’s now, who else wants an Old White Man?

204 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 7:49:12am

re: #201 FemNaziBitch

There is a lot of this type of graphic floating around social media regarding veterans:

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In the brackets after the names I still counted four capital ‘D’s

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205 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:50:47am
206 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:53:35am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

WHITE MANS IS TEH VICTIMZ!!!!! THEY ARE TEH MOAST VICTIMZ!!!!

I’m heading out to the auctioneer’s now, who else wants an Old White Man?

“We just want to be treated as human beings

207 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 7:53:43am

re: #205 FemNaziBitch

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The photo almost begs the caption,

‘But whaddya gonna do about it?’

208 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 7:55:22am

I’d join in, but I’m way behind on today’s oppressin’.

209 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:55:53am
210 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:57:03am

Senate rejects far-reaching Veterans Affairs bill

There is just no end to the finer-pointing, baiting and back stabbing.

211 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 7:57:19am

Not that any reminders are necessary, but just as an illustration of the degeneracy of the post-Soviet commies. Leader of the Communist party of the Ukraine Pyotr Simonenko in 2009:

You see what they did with the elections to the Ternopil regional council? I reminded the representatives of this people [Jews] that in ‘32 they - the representatives of this people - brought Hitler to power, and [now] Kolomoysky has financed the election of [Tyahnibok’s] Svoboda”

korrespondent.net

212 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 7:57:26am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

I’d join in, but I’m way behind on today’s oppressin’.

eh, it’s still early, you’ve got time.

213 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:04:29am
214 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 8:05:38am

re: #210 FemNaziBitch

Senate rejects far-reaching Veterans Affairs bill

There is just no end to the finer-pointing, baiting and back stabbing.

From the article:

‘Aside from the costs, Republicans also were concerned that the bill would add more veterans to a system already struggling with extensive wait times at VA health clinics and a long-standing backlog of disability claims. The legislation would have extended the period of time veterans are eligible to enroll in the VA health-care system from five years to 10 years after deployment.’

Yeah, let’s just let the perfect be the enemy of the good as well as being utter knobheads. Pathetic.

And tie the bill to sanctions against Iran. I thought that region of the world and the US’s involvement there was the very reason why Vet’s healthcare is in such a bind.

215 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:06:15am
216 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:07:30am

So, not only are the birds still very talkative this morning, Roofers have decided to work today in my neighborhood.

I wish the world had a volume/mute button sometimes.

(old lady rant off)

217 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:08:55am

re: #215 FemNaziBitch

Kirk Cameron Changes His Tune on Same-Sex Marriage

Have to wonder Kirk’s political connections …again, there is an election coming up and the timing is ominous to me.

218 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:11:22am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

Have to wonder Kirk’s political connections …again, there is an election coming up and the timing is ominous to me.

Yeah, he is rather politically active

219 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 30, 2014 8:12:59am

re: #215 FemNaziBitch

Kirk Cameron Changes His Tune on Same-Sex Marriage

I am not a fan of Cameron (or major religions for that matter) but it is nice to see that he is putting a mirror up to “the church” as he puts it and saying “hey we’re hurting marriage more than teh gays are”.

220 Romantic Heretic  May 30, 2014 8:13:58am

re: #74 Pie-onist Overlord

Never mind, now I know.

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Please be aware my statement about this is going to be quite obscene.

Ms. Rand? You are one ignorant ****.

221 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 8:14:56am

re: #219 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am not a fan of Cameron (or major religions for that matter) but it is nice to see that he is putting a mirror up to “the church” as he puts it and saying “hey we’re hurting marriage more than teh gays are”.

Yeah I actually find that attitude refreshing from him. Of course, he’s been part of that problem more so than the solution for a while but let’s see.

223 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:16:01am

re: #219 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am not a fan of Cameron (or major religions for that matter) but it is nice to see that he is putting a mirror up to “the church” as he puts it and saying “hey we’re hurting marriage more than teh gays are”.

No, I think he is part of the GOP to confuse voters and get the majority of votes in November.

It’s always fun to watch politicians and pundits flip on issues during an election year.

224 kirkspencer  May 30, 2014 8:16:44am

re: #185 CuriousLurker

*sigh* No, the only stores in these parts are ShopRite & Pathmark, and SR has the better bakery/deli. The only other options are dinky little grocery stores (like C-Town and Bravo) that are awful.

I bought a bread machine a few months ago, but haven’t used it yet. I have all the ingredients I could possibly need—a jar of yeast; whole wheat, rye, and unbleached bread flours; sesame, poppy, flax, and raw sunflower seeds—the only thing lacking is a good, tested recipe.

As an aside, I use my stand mixer instead of a bread machine. But here’s the deal about making bread: even with a good, tested recipe, you’re going to have to tweak it. And sometimes apparently minor tweaks have phenomenal effects.

What recipe do you use that comes the closest, and what do you mean by “toothy”? coarser crumb? More developed gluten?

225 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 8:17:12am

WTFITS

226 Romantic Heretic  May 30, 2014 8:17:28am

re: #77 A Mom Anon

I was just looking for that, lol.

I seriously wish these fuckers would just pool their resources, buy an island and go ahead and create their government free society. I’d happily help them pack.

I’d cheerfully keep them stocked with ammunition because it wouldn’t be long before they started ‘purging the impure.’

227 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 8:18:13am

re: #225 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Okay Todd, you go start an international dispute with a country we have a large border and relationship with. I’ll stay here in the real world.

228 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 8:18:22am

re: #225 Pie-onist Overlord

Todd can lead the charge, if he’s so gung ho about it.

229 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 8:19:08am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Yeah I actually find that attitude refreshing from him. Of course, he’s been part of that problem more so than the solution for a while but let’s see.

Once again, I find myself awarding a ding for a sentiment of optimism I hope turns faith-based excuses for backwardism on its head. Time will tell, I s’pose.

230 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 8:21:31am

Shinseki has resigned.

That will fix everything.
//

231 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 8:22:46am

Wingnuts are not done pissing on Maya Angelou’s grave.

232 Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2014 8:23:47am

re: #231 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are not done pissing on Maya Angelou’s grave.

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It is. But I somehow don’t believe the RWNJ’s can do it honestly.

233 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 8:24:13am

re: #231 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are not done pissing on Maya Angelou’s grave.

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Let them rant. How much attention do poets get?

234 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 8:28:01am

re: #230 Pie-onist Overlord

Shinseki has resigned.

That will fix everything.
//

Well, shit.

Rumsfeld should have been nominated VA Sec. for life and made to redeem himself. Maybe people might forgive all the mismanagement of the Iraq War if he threw himself into reforming an overstrained health care system with the resources “we have, not those…”

eh, you guys know the rest…

235 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:28:10am

re: #230 Pie-onist Overlord

Shinseki has resigned.

That will fix everything.
//

He’s probably relieved to get out of that clusterfuck.

236 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 8:28:11am

We had a Joe Bonamassa vid, then a John Hiatt vid, now get two great tastes together! This song was about my eleventh-favorite (out of 11) on Hiatt’s Dirty Jeans and Mudslide Hymns album, but the addition of Bonamassa makes it irresistible.

Youtube Video

(It’s safe, Joe is using a different guitar.)

237 jaunte  May 30, 2014 8:29:59am

re: #225 Pie-onist Overlord

Why can’t we just send troops over the border to retrieve our Marine? It’s not like the Mexicans haven’t been coming across our border.

That crazy Todd, always willing to ask the tough questions about who’s willing to go die in the next military excursion.

238 calochortus  May 30, 2014 8:33:32am

re: #185 CuriousLurker

*sigh* No, the only stores in these parts are ShopRite & Pathmark, and SR has the better bakery/deli. The only other options are dinky little grocery stores (like C-Town and Bravo) that are awful.

I bought a bread machine a few months ago, but haven’t used it yet. I have all the ingredients I could possibly need—a jar of yeast; whole wheat, rye, and unbleached bread flours; sesame, poppy, flax, and raw sunflower seeds—the only thing lacking is a good, tested recipe.

Like Kirkspencer, I use a mixer rather than a bread machine, but his advice is sound. Pick a recipe and just try it. Chances are good the bread will be edible but imperfect. Play with it.
Basically you need flour, water, a bit of salt, and yeast. Subbing in some milk for the water gives a softer ‘crumb’ (good for sandwiches-not for a nice chewy baguette.)
Different flours and additives (herbs, cheese, etc.) give different flavors, but may make the bread rise less well just because the more stuff in there that isn’t gluten-y and forming pockets for air, the less rise to the loaf.

Go for it!

239 coin operated  May 30, 2014 8:33:41am

re: #230 Pie-onist Overlord

Shinseki has resigned.

That will fix everything.
//

My dad, 82 and served in Korea, is pissed. He said he’s seen improvements while Obama and Shinseki were in control.

And I’m pissed too. Fsck those rat-bastards who cut VA funding year after year.

240 jaunte  May 30, 2014 8:34:37am
241 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 8:37:08am

The video is over, but these are some important highlights:

President Obama says Eric Shinseki saw his own leadership at the VA as a ‘distraction’ from solving the department’s issues - live video
End of alert

President Obama says Sloan Gibson will become acting secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs in place of Eric Shinseki - live video
End of alert

16m
President Obama says report from VA Secretary Eric Shinseki shows misconduct was not limited to Phoenix facility - live video

242 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 8:37:19am

re: #222 FemNaziBitch

Barber: ‘So Many Women Are … Taking Anti-Depressants’ Because They Feel Guilty For Having Had An Abortion

No Matt, many women are on anti-depressants because they have to live in a world with men like you.

243 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 8:38:04am

re: #240 jaunte

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No, they’re filing their papers to run for president.

244 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 8:41:31am

re: #238 calochortus

Like Kirkspencer, I use a mixer rather than a bread machine, but his advice is sound. Pick a recipe and just try it. Chances are good the bread will be edible but imperfect. Play with it.
Basically you need flour, water, a bit of salt, and yeast. Subbing in some milk for the water gives a softer ‘crumb’ (good for sandwiches-not for a nice chewy baguette.)
Different flours and additives (herbs, cheese, etc.) give different flavors, but may make the bread rise less well just because the more stuff in there that isn’t gluten-y and forming pockets for air, the less rise to the loaf.

Go for it!

It’s amazing to me just how good 4 ingredients, none of which are that appealing by themselves (except maybe water), combine to make such a delightful product.

One thing… DON’T forget the salt. I made a big batch not long ago, and the moment I tasted it I knew I had forgotten the salt. Ended up feeding it to the ducks in the pond at the park.

RBS

245 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 8:45:14am

13 year old Joe Bonamassa on Real life with Jane Pauley (with cameos by John Lee Hooker and B.B. King).

Youtube Video

246 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 8:45:53am

re: #244 RealityBasedSteve

Ended up feeding it to the ducks in the pond at the park.

Quack! Quack! Free bread! Needs salt! Quack quack!

247 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 8:47:59am

Well, now that the wingnuts on Capital Hill got their scalp, we can be assured a quick nomination and confirmation process so that the new Secretary can get to work fixing the VA’s problems, right?

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248 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 8:51:47am

re: #244 RealityBasedSteve

It’s amazing to me just how good 4 ingredients, none of which are that appealing by themselves (except maybe water), combine to make such a delightful product.

One thing… DON’T forget the salt. I made a big batch not long ago, and the moment I tasted it I knew I had forgotten the salt. Ended up feeding it to the ducks in the pond at the park.

RBS

They probably get enough sodium from stale store-bought bread anyhow.

My GF’s uncle was talking the other day about how he follows a Maltese and probably Mediterranean tradition of retaining a small amount of the dough used on the previous day’s loaf and setting the equivalent portion aside every day and kneading it into the next day’s dough. This portion he called the ‘mother dough’, I think and it allowed the idea that potentially one was consuming bread made from the flour ground decades ago as well as introducing a hint of maturity into the end product.

Could even be a generational metaphor of some kind.

Interesting, if nothing else.

249 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 8:53:03am

Sloan D. Gibson.

va.gov

250 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 8:53:32am

Steve, who was POTUS in 2008 & why didn’t he do anything about the VA scandal?

251 calochortus  May 30, 2014 8:55:14am

re: #248 Alyosha

Sounds like it’s giving a nod to sourdough starter. It doesn’t sound like enough to actually leaven the bread, so I assume yeast is added as well. (A typical sourdough-leavened bread would involve 1 part starter:1 part water:2 parts flour + a pinch of salt.)

252 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 8:55:24am
253 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 8:55:28am

re:
#247
Targetpractice

Money for vets cut by Obummer’s sequester and increase food stamp welfares $$$!! Confirmed. FACT.

254 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 8:56:20am

re: #250 Pie-onist Overlord

Steve, who was POTUS in 2008 & why didn’t he do anything about the VA scandal?

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Steve, based upon everything I’ve heard, the majority of the problems with the VA predate this administration. Hell, they predate the Clinton administration. So what did Bush do for the VA? Well, he was really good at giving it plenty of new patients.

255 calochortus  May 30, 2014 8:56:56am

re: #252 Pie-onist Overlord

So why didn’t Obama wave his magic wand and fix everything?
Just asking.///

256 Dr. Matt  May 30, 2014 8:58:22am

re: #250 Pie-onist Overlord

Steve, who was POTUS in 2008 & why didn’t he do anything about the VA scandal?

The VA hospital problems started in 2005. Hell, even WND acknowledges this fact

motherjones.com

wnd.com

google.com

257 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 8:58:55am

re: #248 Alyosha

It’s called “pate fermente”. You can find it online.

258 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 8:59:48am

It comes as a major disappointment to me that someone has let Steve Stockman near an Internets again.

259 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 9:01:44am

While #Shinseki shares the blame responsibility lies with Obama, who was told of #VAScandal in Nov 2008, refused to direct #VA
to stop it.

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November 2008 when BEGnhazi!! and Obama playing golf and gave order to stand down!!!1

260 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:02:40am

re: #224 kirkspencer

As an aside, I use my stand mixer instead of a bread machine. But here’s the deal about making bread: even with a good, tested recipe, you’re going to have to tweak it. And sometimes apparently minor tweaks have phenomenal effects.

What recipe do you use that comes the closest, and what do you mean by “toothy”? coarser crumb? More developed gluten?

I don’t have the patience to drag out my Kitchen Aid stand mixer and go through a long process, especially since it’s just for me.

I like it with more developed gluten, not too dense, but when you bite into it there’s some resistance. Like this no-knead bread. The no-knead stuff is much less time consuming for me, but I wanted to go simpler still, thus the bread machine.

261 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:06:11am

re: #238 calochortus

Like Kirkspencer, I use a mixer rather than a bread machine, but his advice is sound. Pick a recipe and just try it. Chances are good the bread will be edible but imperfect. Play with it.
Basically you need flour, water, a bit of salt, and yeast. Subbing in some milk for the water gives a softer ‘crumb’ (good for sandwiches-not for a nice chewy baguette.)
Different flours and additives (herbs, cheese, etc.) give different flavors, but may make the bread rise less well just because the more stuff in there that isn’t gluten-y and forming pockets for air, the less rise to the loaf.

Go for it!

Thanks for the tips, I’ll keep ‘em in mind. I’ll have to just pick a recipe and try it this weekend. I don’t know much about the science of bread, so if whatever I do is a flop, I’ll be back to pick you guys’ brains.

262 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:06:37am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

Have you looked around the internets for advice? The Fresh Loaf has useful advice and forums.
You’ll still have to experiment, though.

263 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:07:04am

re: #251 calochortus

Sounds like it’s giving a nod to sourdough starter. It doesn’t sound like enough to actually leaven the bread, so I assume yeast is added as well. (A typical sourdough-leavened bread would involve 1 part starter:1 part water:2 parts flour + a pinch of salt.)

Prbly.

Actually I’m bread illiterate but it gives me assumed wisdom to add if the topic comes up again :)

264 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:07:44am

This fucking stupid meme again.

265 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:08:27am

re: #262 calochortus

Have you looked around the internets for advice? The Fresh Loaf has useful advice and forums.
You’ll still have to experiment, though.

Not really, at least not since I first tried the no-knead stuff. Bookmarked that one—thanks!

266 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:09:32am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

I don’t have the patience to drag out my Kitchen Aid stand mixer and go through a long process, especially since it’s just for me.

I like it with more developed gluten, not too dense, but when you bite into it there’s some resistance. Like this no-knead bread. The no-knead stuff is much less time consuming for me, but I wanted to go simpler still, thus the bread machine.

Last year I bought an Ankarsrum Assistent mixer. Pricey but so totally worth it.

267 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:09:56am

re: #264 Pie-onist Overlord

This fucking stupid meme again.

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MAybe you could ask them if they’re content with having our military the same size it was in 1913. There’s a lot wrong with that stupid meme.

268 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:10:38am

I still use the old Kitchen Aid stand mixer for cake batter, and the Cuisinart for pie crust.

269 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:11:03am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

MAybe you could ask them if they’re content with having our military the same size it was in 1913. There’s a lot wrong with that stupid meme.

Like the idea that there were no taxes at all before 1913.
Also too, they want to go back to tariffs to support the government?

270 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:11:55am

re: #264 Pie-onist Overlord

This fucking stupid meme again.

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They want things like they were in 1913? Alright, let’s start by tearing up any paved streets that either weren’t paved or didn’t exist in 1913. Then we’ll top that by demolishing the entire Interstate Highway System. Let’s see how much they love travel times across the country measured in weeks.

271 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:11:56am

re: #266 Pie-onist Overlord

Last year I bought an Ankarsrum Assistent mixer. Pricey but so totally worth it.

If I was baking bread for a family I could see it, but when it’s just me & the cats, there’s no way I could justify the expense.

272 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:12:00am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

MAybe you could ask them if they’re content with having our military the same size it was in 1913. There’s a lot wrong with that stupid meme.

State of the art horses & bayonets!

Sure privatize the military! What could go wrong? Halliburtonblackwatermumblemumble

273 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 9:12:16am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

I don’t have the patience to drag out my Kitchen Aid stand mixer and go through a long process, especially since it’s just for me.

I like it with more developed gluten, not too dense, but when you bite into it there’s some resistance. Like this no-knead bread. The no-knead stuff is much less time consuming for me, but I wanted to go simpler still, thus the bread machine.

That’s very much like the technique I use, but I make up a larger batch (30 oz of flour), so I can make a loaf whenever I want. The baking it in a dutch oven is a great trick, I’ve started doing that, it makes for a moist environment for the start, then it dries out with the lid off.

I use a tall cylindrical beverage pitcher to store it in the fridge. When I use up whats there, any little tag ends and left overs get added to the next batch. The longer you can let it mature (up to about 2 weeks) the more flavor it develops, but the longer you let it sit in the fridge, it needs a bit more time to rise before it goes in the oven.

It’s not always perfect, but it does have a good taste, and usually a great crust.

RBS

274 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:13:15am

It occurs to me that LGF could have the tag line “Food, Music and Politics”

275 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:14:05am
276 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:14:13am

What’s that you say, you’ll just fly to LA from NYC? Sorry, no FAA in 1913, and certainly no jumbo jets. You want to get to LA, you better be prepared to ride a train, provided you can find any privately owned ones that still go to LA from NYC.

277 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 9:14:40am

re: #274 calochortus

It occurs to me that LGF could have the tag line “Food, Music and Politics”

Luckily, the baseball threads are rare.

278 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:14:57am

re: #276 Targetpractice

What’s that you say, you’ll just fly to LA from NYC? Sorry, no FAA in 1913, and certainly no jumbo jets. You want to get to LA, you better be prepared to ride a train, provided you can find any privately owned ones that still go to LA from NYC.

The railroads were heavily subsidized.

279 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:15:44am

re: #268 Pie-onist Overlord

I still use the old Kitchen Aid stand mixer for cake batter, and the Cuisinart for pie crust.

I don’t use my Kitchen Aid nearly as much as I used to. I used to use it for flour tortillas, cookies, etc. but it’s so big & heavy, ugh. I love my Cuisinart food processor though, and I use it more often.

280 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:15:56am
281 kirkspencer  May 30, 2014 9:17:29am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

I don’t have the patience to drag out my Kitchen Aid stand mixer and go through a long process, especially since it’s just for me.

I like it with more developed gluten, not too dense, but when you bite into it there’s some resistance. Like this no-knead bread. The no-knead stuff is much less time consuming for me, but I wanted to go simpler still, thus the bread machine.

OK, does your machine have a ‘delay’ setting? In other words, can you pour the ingredients into the pan, give them a quick stir, and just have them sit in there for a while?

If so take your basic recipe and try setting a delay of an hour or two before everything starts. An alternative (though a smidge more effort) would be to put the pan with ingredients in the refrigerator overnight.

What I’m doing here is increasing the gluten development through a bit of autolysis. ummmm, here, read this for a better explanation and explanation of why no-knead breads work. But you’re not going totally no-knead so there’s no need for full self-development. Just, increasing what you’ve got by a bit.

Just as a referential addendmum: Personal experience with bread machines, and why I didn’t replace mine when it broke a decade ago, was that I didn’t think the machines developed the dough with enough kneading. It’s HARD to overknead bread even with a stand mixer.

282 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 9:18:20am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

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It’s ok for Glenn to do it because

Speaking on The Blaze, Beck told of how his father had been repeatedly raped at a YMCA after running away from home. He also said his dad was repeatedly raped by a man who caught him stealing golf balls at a country club, and raped again by a preacher.

“Don’t you ever preach to me about what I can say and cannot say about rape,” Beck said through tears. “Don’t you ever try to be an authority to me on the effects of rape. Don’t you ever try to tell me what victims should or should not feel as I have tried to piece my family back together and to give my sisters the love that they deserve and never had.”

So, to be consistent, the question from Glenn should be why did his dad keep asking for it?

283 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:18:38am

re: #276 Targetpractice

What’s that you say, you’ll just fly to LA from NYC? Sorry, no FAA in 1913, and certainly no jumbo jets. You want to get to LA, you better be prepared to ride a train, provided you can find any privately owned ones that still go to LA from NYC.

What’s that? You want the weekend off? You want better conditions on your job? Get the hell out of here you union thug!

284 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:19:45am

re: #282 Skip Intro

It’s ok for Glenn to do it because

So, to be consistent, the question from Glenn should be why did his dad keep asking for it?

So he’s saying it’s okay for him to be insensitive to rape victims because his father was a rape victim? I think your Dad needs to have the long talk with you, young Glenn.

285 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:20:15am

re: #280 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!

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I am glad at times like these that I may sleep soundly knowing that there are Vicious Babushkas patrolling the Twitter and eviscerating the derp-mongers so that lily-livered folk like myself might not have to.

286 Dr. Matt  May 30, 2014 9:20:25am

re: #274 calochortus

It occurs to me that LGF could have the tag line “Food, Music and Politics”

And Sideboob.

287 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:20:29am

What’s that, you want to access Twitter? Sorry, no internet in 1913. No FedEx or UPS, you wanna contact your friends, you better hope they’re near a landline or are home to get a letter from the US Postal Service. ‘course, you might get lucky and find a telegram service still operating that will only charge you a little extra to track your friend down and get your message to them in a “timely” fashion.

288 Kragar  May 30, 2014 9:22:21am
289 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 9:22:37am

re: #281 kirkspencer

SNIP….
What I’m doing here is increasing the gluten development through a bit of autolysis. ummmm, here, read this for a better explanation and explanation of why no-knead breads work. But you’re not going totally no-knead so there’s no need for full self-development. Just, increasing what you’ve got by a bit.

I remember reading some on that myself. It seems that the very slow formation of the bubbles, and the motion as they work up through the dough during that 12 -24 hour initial rise actually forms the gluten. Pretty interesting stuff.

One nice thing, even if you totally mess something up, all you’ve really spent is time. The ingredient cost is really pocket change. Makes it easy to experiment.

One thing I have to warn you about, once you get a recipe and a technique that works for you, in 6 months (or less), you’re going to be posting and whining about how your clothes don’t fit… why am I gaining this weight…. (Trust me…)

RBS

290 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:22:37am

re: #281 kirkspencer

I don’t remember if my machine has a delay option or not, but I’ll check. Many thanks for the tip, alternative option, and link!

291 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 9:22:59am

re: #270 Targetpractice

They want things like they were in 1913? Alright, let’s start by tearing up any paved streets that either weren’t paved or didn’t exist in 1913. Then we’ll top that by demolishing the entire Interstate Highway System. Let’s see how much they love travel times across the country measured in weeks.

And we can get rid of the CDC because everyone knows how well epidemics were controlled back then, including the great influenza epidemic of 1918 that killed my grandmother.

Stupid, motherfucking, Fox News watching, Rush Limbaugh listening assholes, every single one of them.

292 kirkspencer  May 30, 2014 9:23:09am

Minor divergence on the whole bread thing - these days I make oat bread. More accurately a minor modification of Alton Brown’s ‘leftover oatmeal’ bread. I don’t bother with the eggwash and coat, I use molasses instead of agave, I use steel cut for the dry add, and most of the time I add about 1/3 cup of dried fruit (cranberries by preference). Experience has shown that in my area the rising times are different as well.

It makes a somewhat denser loaf than the standard flour loaf, but I like it so it’s what I make - a loaf every two or three days.

293 HoosierHoops  May 30, 2014 9:23:15am

re: #287 Targetpractice

What’s that, you want to access Twitter? Sorry, no internet in 1903. No FedEx or UPS, you wanna contact your friends, you better hope they’re near a landline or are home to get a letter from the US Postal Service. ‘course, you might get lucky and find a telegram service still operating that will only charge you a little extra to track your friend down and get your message to them in a “timely” fashion.

Imagine what it will be like 10 years from now..

294 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:23:43am

re: #289 RealityBasedSteve

Too, too true.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:23:48am

re: #288 Kragar

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296 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 9:26:09am

Because I’m the Evil Master of the Earworms! Bwahahaha!

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297 kirkspencer  May 30, 2014 9:26:50am

re: #289 RealityBasedSteve

I remember reading some on that myself. It seems that the very slow formation of the bubbles, and the motion as they work up through the dough during that 12 -24 hour initial rise actually forms the gluten. Pretty interesting stuff.

One nice thing, even if you totally mess something up, all you’ve really spent is time. The ingredient cost is really pocket change. Makes it easy to experiment.

One thing I have to warn you about, once you get a recipe and a technique that works for you, in 6 months (or less), you’re going to be posting and whining about how your clothes don’t fit… why am I gaining this weight…. (Trust me…)

RBS

Welllll, maybe. Me, I’m actually losing weight. On the other hand I’ve cooked, and loved to cook (except oddly in restaurants) for a long time. So yes for a while there was the “I like my cooking” growth. The ‘cook’s taste’ inch, and the inch from the “oh, that’s not enough for another plate I’ll just get rid of it” and…

298 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:26:53am

re: #293 HoosierHoops

Imagine what it will be like 10 years from now..

Hell, I’d be willing to be that now, most houses either have no landline or only keep it for emergency purposes. We turned the ringer on ours off because if we have any important calls incoming, they usually call on of our cellphones.

And mail? Well, Republicans are trying their damnedest to kill off/privatize the USPS, so we might not even had mail deliveries anymore in 10 years. On the upside, I won’t get as much junk mail in my mailbox. Downside, I get plenty of it already in my spam folder online.

299 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:26:56am

re: #286 Dr. Matt

And Sideboob.

Subscription Only? lol

300 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 9:27:35am

re: #293 HoosierHoops

Imagine what it will be like 10 years from now..

Have you moved back to California yet? Things getting better?

301 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:27:49am

It’s in this sense that I say that paradoxically that today’s conservatives exist because of modern progress. They take so much shit for granted that either wouldn’t be here or would be in much small quantities had we done things the way they wanted to do things. Yes, we had education in 1913 but guess what it was beyond high school something reserved only for the very wealthy. You don’t get crazy sick from the food you eat. Your welcome, FDA. You’re able to enjoy time off on the weekends to spend time with your family and friends. Hey, thanks unions. Really these people who look fondly at 1913’ and how things were done back then would be the first people complaining to get back if they ever had to experience it.

302 Mattand  May 30, 2014 9:28:09am

O’Reilly To Megyn Kelly: You’re Buying The Income Inequality ‘Fraud’ (VIDEO)

I know it’s cynical, but I look at these ‘disagreements’ between Fox News stars as thoroughly rehearsed, staged debates. A thinly veiled attempt to pretend that the network is marching to the beat of the same talking points.

303 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 9:28:36am
Speaking on The Blaze, Beck told…

Uh, wait a sec, I think I see the problem…

304 Kragar  May 30, 2014 9:28:42am

re: #296 Sergey Romanov

Because I’m the Evil Master of the Earworms! Bwahahaha!

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Video

I defy you with the power of Dio

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305 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:29:11am

I was checking to see what the Freepers thought of the Shinseki resignation earlier, and just gave up. How sad to make everything a reflection of hate and fear. Their world seems so small and, well, sad.

306 BlackPearl  May 30, 2014 9:30:04am

EmmaAnne asked in the last thread:

Please explain this joke from the article:

Funny, right? No? How about this exchange:

“Is that called arrayReverse?”
“s/camel/_/”
“Cool thanks.”

Wasn’t that guy helpful? With the camel? Doesn’t that seem like an appropriate response? No? Good. You can still find Jesus. You have not yet spent so much of your life reading code that you begin to talk in it.

****

Because I am a dork, it became VERY IMPORTANT that I register to answer. I’m not a real programmer, so I may get it wrong, but the internet is like that. Hi everyone!

So… the first guy is asking if a thing (function, probably) is named arrayReverse.

arrayReverse is using a naming convention called camelcase. This is where the first letter is lowercase, and everything else is lowercase except the first letters of subsequent words in the name, e.g. helloIAmAVariableName . (See the camel humps?)

The second guy responds with a regular expression. This is where you search some text to try to find phraseX, and if you use the “s” or “substitute” flag you replace it with phraseY, like so: s/phraseX/phraseY/ .

Finally, there’s another naming convention where you delineate words by separating them with underscores, e.g. hello_i_am_a_variable_name .

So he’s saying, “Right general idea, but replace the camelcase convention with the underscore convention,” instead of being a normal human being and saying, “No, it’s not arrayReverse, it’s array_reverse.” And the point is to strive to be a normal person, I think. :)

307 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:30:12am

re: #302 Mattand

Diversity of opinion. ‘We Report, You Decide’ style.

308 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 9:30:56am

For those interested in Koch Bros: Libertarianism 3.0: Koch And A Smile

Written by a senior editor for the lefty magazine Mother Jones, the book is hugely revelatory, though not in a way that will please or flatter the conspiracy theories of Democrats, liberals, and progressives who vilify the Kansas-raised billionaires Charles and David Koch for fun and profit. Sons of Wichita chronicles the post-World War II transformation of a mid-size oil-and-ranching family business into the second-largest privately held company in the United States. From a straight business angle, it’s riveting and illuminating not just about how Koch Industries—makers of “energy, food, building and agricultural materials…and…products [that] intersect every day with the lives of every American”—evolved over the past 60 years but also how the larger U.S. economy changed and globalized.

But what’s far more interesting—and important to contemporary America—is the way in which Schulman documents the absolute seriousness with which Charles and David have always taken specifically libertarian ideas and their signal role in helping to create a “freedom movement” to counter what they have long seen as a more effective mix of educational, activist, and intellectual groups on the broadly defined left. By treating the Koch brothers’ activities in critical but fair terms, Sons of Wichita points to what I like to think of as Libertarianism 3.0, a political and cultural development that, if successful, will not only frustrate the left but fundamentally alter the right by creating fusion between forces of social tolerance and fiscal responsibility.

309 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:31:25am
310 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 9:31:28am

re: #306 BlackPearl

Welcome, hatchling.

311 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:31:34am

re: #289 RealityBasedSteve

One thing I have to warn you about, once you get a recipe and a technique that works for you, in 6 months (or less), you’re going to be posting and whining about how your clothes don’t fit… why am I gaining this weight…. (Trust me…)

I can’t do that. I’m diabetic, so I have to be really careful about my carbs.

312 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 9:31:58am

re: #296 Sergey Romanov

Because I’m the Evil Master of the Earworms! Bwahahaha!

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Video

I gotta feed the robin…

313 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:32:36am

re: #302 Mattand

O’Reilly To Megyn Kelly: You’re Buying The Income Inequality ‘Fraud’ (VIDEO)

I know it’s cynical, but I look at these ‘disagreements’ between Fox News stars as thoroughly rehearsed, staged debates. A thinly veiled attempt to pretend that the network is marching to the beat of the same talking points.

No, I don’t think you’re being cynical at all here. Yeah, sometimes Kelly or even BillO himself will look reasonable and then the next night they’re echoing the same old crap.

314 HoosierHoops  May 30, 2014 9:32:47am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

Have you moved back to California yet? Things getting better?

I nixed the California move…Staying here on the lake.. I hurt my foot the other day so that sucks..But the fishing is good…
How are you KT?

315 Kragar  May 30, 2014 9:33:42am

re: #312 wrenchwench

I gotta feed the robin…

Here, have some more Dio. You’ll feel better.

Youtube Video

316 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:34:00am

LOLWUT

317 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 9:34:03am

re: #297 kirkspencer

Welllll, maybe. Me, I’m actually losing weight. On the other hand I’ve cooked, and loved to cook (except oddly in restaurants) for a long time. So yes for a while there was the “I like my cooking” growth. The ‘cook’s taste’ inch, and the inch from the “oh, that’s not enough for another plate I’ll just get rid of it” and…

ROFLMAO. I know exactly what you’re referring to.

RBS

318 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:34:05am

re: #264 Pie-onist Overlord

This fucking stupid meme again.

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ALL Americans had those things? Really? What about sewers, paved roads, quality education, indoor plumbing? central heating? reliable fire houses?

should I go on?

319 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 9:34:38am

re: #306 BlackPearl

Thanks, explanation appreciated.

320 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:35:51am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT

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You have no right to take money and give it to another? Gee was Shit for brains crying this during the massive military build ups we’ve had? Or is that pathetic tune only reserved for education and health care? Fucking hypocritical assholes.

321 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 9:36:09am

Thanks again for sharing your bread tips, everyone. Gotta get back to work now. *waves at Hoops on the way out*

BBL

322 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 9:36:12am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

Ask what state the person lives in. Then (and I’m going to go on a limb that the person lives on a state who takes more in federal money than it delivers in the form of taxes), note that the state should be impoverished because NY, NJ, and a handful of blue states subsidize the rest of the nation.

323 Ian G.  May 30, 2014 9:36:13am

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

Actually, I read it as “there were no taxes until 1913”, which is so stupid it’s making my brain bleed.

Jeez, you think these numbskulls who have their “the Confederacy wasn’t about slavery!” talking points down would remember all the tariff disputes between the north and south in the antebellum days.

324 Minor_L  May 30, 2014 9:36:29am

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

(Super late, but oh well.)

But, the ACLU also said to David Corn, “Snowden raised many complaints over many channels.” motherjones.com

So, which is it? He did? Or he couldn’t?

And if Wizner is correct, why didn’t Snowden just say that in the first place: “I didn’t report because I felt I couldn’t.” I agree that that’s not legitimate, but it’s better than lying and saying he reported.

325 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2014 9:36:39am

re: #314 HoosierHoops

I nixed the California move…Staying here on the lake.. I hurt my foot the other day so that sucks..But the fishing is good…
How are you KT?

Yay for staying at the lake!
Really, this recent unpleasant winter was pretty much a return of the 30-year dreaded polar vortex cycle.
You survived it! Future winters will not be so bad.

326 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 9:36:47am

re: #315 Kragar

Here, have some more Dio. You’ll feel better.

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The one in #304 was much better.

327 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:37:25am

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

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Angela’s Ashes. Frank McCourt described being set loose in the neighborhood as a young child. A young boy walking the sidewalks/streets of New York with no shoes in the winter.

Yeah, things were so much better back then.

328 Ian G.  May 30, 2014 9:37:29am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT

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Yes, you were responsible for the race riots, the redlining, the near-death of GM/Ford/Chrysler, and the political dysfunction/corruption. You PERSONALLY.

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329 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:37:36am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT

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Do they mean like the billions we ended up giving over to the Iraqi and Afghan governments, either in solid currency or in various goods and materiel? Including all the money that will never be accounted for because nobody was keeping track of it?

330 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 9:38:04am

re: #315 Kragar

Stop it, we have an English-only policy here.

Youtube Video

332 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:39:01am

re: #287 Targetpractice

What’s that, you want to access Twitter? Sorry, no internet in 1913. No FedEx or UPS, you wanna contact your friends, you better hope they’re near a landline or are home to get a letter from the US Postal Service. ‘course, you might get lucky and find a telegram service still operating that will only charge you a little extra to track your friend down and get your message to them in a “timely” fashion.

No hair dryers, or deodorant!

333 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:39:43am

re: #291 Skip Intro

And we can get rid of the CDC because everyone knows how well epidemics were controlled back then, including the great influenza epidemic of 1918 that killed my grandmother.

Stupid, motherfucking, Fox News watching, Rush Limbaugh listening assholes, every single one of them.

antibiotics were cheap then!!!

334 Ian G.  May 30, 2014 9:39:50am

re: #332 FemNaziBitch

No hair dryers, or deodorant!

No antibiotics. Hope that strep throat infection doesn’t get any worse!

335 piratedan  May 30, 2014 9:39:58am

re: #302 Mattand

well I’m sure that Megyn is being paid roughly the same as Bill-O, at least five figures, amirite?

336 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 9:40:07am

re: #314 HoosierHoops

I nixed the California move…Staying here on the lake.. I hurt my foot the other day so that sucks..But the fishing is good…
How are you KT?

I’m well. Busy with the summer garden. Glad to hear you’re going to give the lake another try. Maybe next winter will go better now that you know what to expect.

337 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:40:13am

re: #327 FemNaziBitch

Angela’s Ashes. Frank McCourt described being set loose in the neighborhood as a young child. A young boy walking the sidewalks/streets of New York with no shoes in the winter.

Yeah, things were so much better back then.

Funny you mention him. I’m going on a tour in Limerick this summer that includes many of the sites from the book. But, yes, I remember reading about his early childhood in Brooklyn. It was far from an uncommon existence. Really the people who look on the past the most are more often the people without any tangible links to that past.

338 gwangung  May 30, 2014 9:40:36am

re: #334 Ian G.

No antibiotics. Hope that strep throat infection doesn’t get any worse!

Well, we might get that anyway, thanks to the over-use of antibiotics by Big Agriculture.

339 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:41:18am

re: #328 Ian G.

Yes, you were responsible for the race riots, the redlining, the near-death of GM/Ford/Chrysler, and the political dysfunction/corruption. You PERSONALLY.

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Of course she was. It’s good to find a simple explanation. All we need do now is wait for VB to single handedly fix all the problems she caused.

340 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:41:39am
341 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:41:59am

re: #334 Ian G.

No antibiotics. Hope that strep throat infection doesn’t get any worse!

What’s that, you’ve got bad headaches that won’t go away? Sorry, we don’t have anything more sophisticated than an X-Ray machine, and it can’t tell you more than your skull’s intact. Might I recommend this “Cure-All” elixir that has heroin as the primary drug?

342 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:42:08am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT

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Evil Babushka!

*LOL*

343 sagehen  May 30, 2014 9:42:35am

re: #159 FemNaziBitch

Wouldn’t it make more sense for the VA to become just an insurance company regarding medical treatment. Why does the military need it’s own facilities, doctors etc?

I’m not advocating privatization per se, it just seems there is a lot of duplication in the system. Why should a vet have to accept substandard care just because it’s the VA?

Our Vets deserve the best treatment possible and they deserve for us to pay for it.

A lot of vets’ medical issues are specifically vets’ issues. There’s a benefit to specialization. Who better than the VA to create surgical/rehab/research units dedicated to prosthetics or TBI? Where else but the military are these common problems?

Problems related to Agent Orange exposure. Or depleted uranium ammo. Or the immunizations given to those deployed in specific parts of the world. The statistical evidence only comes clear, and ideas for treatment, when vets’ medical issues are separated out from all-Americans’ medical issues.

344 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:43:21am
345 Kragar  May 30, 2014 9:43:35am

re: #330 Sergey Romanov

Stop it, we have an English-only policy here.

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Well, fine then

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346 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:43:45am

re: #334 Ian G.

No antibiotics. Hope that strep throat infection doesn’t get any worse!

I know and no tampons!

347 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:44:36am

re: #346 FemNaziBitch

I know and no tampons!

No kotex either!

348 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:45:16am

re: #347 Pie-onist Overlord

No kotex either!

what about the little yellow pills?

349 HoosierHoops  May 30, 2014 9:45:25am

Well Lizards..Heading out to catch a Walleye for dinner..Also I’ll put together a summer salad…Have a great day!

350 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:45:33am

The state that refuses to invest in its people is a failed state. Simple as that.

351 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 9:46:11am

re: #311 CuriousLurker

I can’t do that. I’m diabetic, so I have to be really careful about my carbs.

Pro tip for diabetics and bread. Check out the glycemic index. Whole wheat pita bread is lower than whole wheat regular bread. Why? Because the longer cooking time for regular bread raising it’s glycemic rating. So you can safely make Pita, naan, flatbreads. You can mix dough and store it in the fridge. Rolling out single servings of pita or naan when needed. They take just a few minutes to cook. fresh bread every day.

352 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:46:24am
353 Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2014 9:46:49am

re: #270 Targetpractice

They want things like they were in 1913? Alright, let’s start by tearing up any paved streets that either weren’t paved or didn’t exist in 1913. Then we’ll top that by demolishing the entire Interstate Highway System. Let’s see how much they love travel times across the country measured in weeks.

Or product/produce prices once one of the more inexpensive means of transporting goods is destroyed (that being trucking).

354 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:46:49am

Teh Derp is strong in Wingnuttia today.

355 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:46:59am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

The state that refuses to invest in its people is a failed state. Simple as that.

QFT

356 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:48:12am
357 gwangung  May 30, 2014 9:48:51am

re: #352 Pie-onist Overlord

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Don’t these fixes require money? Money that was consistently blocked by Congress? REPUBLICAN members of Congress?

358 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:48:54am

re: #353 Eventual Carrion

Or product/produce prices once one of the more inexpensive means of transporting goods is destroyed (that being trucking).

What’s that, you live in Arizona but you want fresh Alaska salmon? Good luck with that. Likewise if you’re hoping for any fresh produce not grown in the state, then you’re SOL. Better start up that garden and hope you can grow what you like in the desert heat.

359 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:49:04am
360 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:49:07am

re: #355 Alyosha

Excellent argument against amputationist austerity if I ever heard one. Hear, fuckin’ hear!

361 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:49:11am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

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Sheriffs who uphold the law? Good, I thought for a second they were talking about Arapaio. Oh wait.

362 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2014 9:49:42am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

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AZ, home of the Phoenix VA and where local and state officials didn’t do a thing.

363 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:49:53am

re: #357 gwangung

Don’t these fixes require money? Money that was consistently blocked by Congress? REPUBLICAN members of Congress?

Yes, yes, they do. This hack wants to put the blame squarely on the Obama administration but none on the Republican Congress who has repeatedly opposed increased funding for the VA.

364 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:50:13am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Sheriffs who uphold the law? Good, I thought for a second they were talking about Arapaio. Oh wait.

Arpaio’s not a sheriff, he’s a wannabe dictator.

365 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 9:50:40am

Yeah, let’s all go back to 1913.

it sure would be nice because a whole hell of a lot of these fuckwit crybabies would not be around. And then maybe we could figure out what created this thinking so we could nip it in the bud next go-round.

People in 1913 had to work damn hard just to get through a day. I sincerely doubt many of those bitching about today would have been able to handle it.

I remember all the stories my grandfather born in the 1880s and my father born in 1906 told me. It was not an easy life.

366 calochortus  May 30, 2014 9:50:53am

re: #358 Targetpractice

What’s that, you live in Arizona but you want fresh Alaska salmon? Good luck with that. Likewise if you’re hoping for any fresh produce not grown in the state, then you’re SOL. Better start up that garden and hope you can grow what you like in the desert heat.

Arizona? 3 words: Federal water projects.

367 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:51:14am

Wow what a freaking idiot.

368 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:51:28am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

Yes, yes, they do. This hack wants to put the blame squarely on the Obama administration but none on the Republican Congress who has repeatedly opposed increased funding for the VA.

Hell, at least this administration requested the additional funds. The VA in 2005 said that it would need a 13% budgetary increase to cover all that was asked of it. The budgetary increase in the White House’s FY06 budget?

0.5%.

369 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:51:37am

re: #360 Alyosha

Excellent argument against amputationist austerity if I ever heard one. Hear, fuckin’ hear!

Thanks. Really, I just look at it from a historical perspective. We and other nations have done our best when we invest in our people. The GI Bill? Brings millions of American young men into the college system who otherwise wouldn’t be in? Oh what do you know, the 50’s becomes a prosperous time. Refusing to invest in your own people is just boneheaded.

370 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 9:52:22am

re: #330 Sergey Romanov

Stop it, we have an English-only policy here.

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371 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:52:26am

Documents Show the VA Debacle Began Under George W. Bush - Mother Jones

Has this already been shared?

372 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 9:52:27am

re: #349 HoosierHoops

Well Lizards..Heading out to catch a Walleye for dinner..Also I’ll put together a summer salad…Have a great day!

Yummm. Fresh walleye. Nothing better. Well, maybe a nice ice chest full of 12” long yellow perch.

373 gwangung  May 30, 2014 9:52:33am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

Thanks. Really, I just look at it from a historical perspective. We and other nations have done our best when we invest in our people. The GI Bill? Brings millions of American young men into the college system who otherwise wouldn’t be in? Oh what do you know, the 50’s becomes a prosperous time. Refusing to invest in your own people is just boneheaded.

That’s a point of pride among modern conservatives.

374 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:52:35am

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow what a freaking idiot.

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Just ignore the loser. He’s convinced that he’s only made it through sheer grit and bootstraps while you’re sitting on a mound of government aid checks.

375 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:53:15am

re: #371 FemNaziBitch

Documents Show the VA Debacle Began Under George W. Bush - Mother Jones

Has this already been shared?

376 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:53:20am

re: #373 gwangung

That’s a point of pride among modern conservatives.

Well modern conservatives are kooky assholes who would fit in better in the Dark Ages than our present time.

377 Eventual Carrion  May 30, 2014 9:53:44am

re: #291 Skip Intro

And we can get rid of the CDC because everyone knows how well epidemics were controlled back then, including the great influenza epidemic of 1918 that killed my grandmother.

Stupid, motherfucking, Fox News watching, Rush Limbaugh listening assholes, every single one of them.

I hear stories that my grandmother got very sick from that flu. She was only 4 at that time and guess it almost killed her, glad she made it through.

378 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 9:53:45am

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow what a freaking idiot.

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Let me guess, Jo Go is a self-made American who never took nothing from no one that they didn’t earn. Was home schooled and everything.

379 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 9:54:22am

Really, you can’t blame Obama for all the VA problems when the local and state officials did nothing and while the Republican majority in the House which controls the purse strings has been involved in a pathetic attempt to repeal his signature legislation since tis passage.

380 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:55:11am

A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

noesis

PRONUNCIATION:
(no-EE-sis)

MEANING:
noun:
1. Cognition; perception.
2. The exercise of reason.

381 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 9:55:33am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

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The constitution specifies that arresting illegal aliens is a federal job.

Ask her how she likes Sheriff Paul Babeu, who had an illegal alien boyfriend.

382 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 9:56:33am

Winning logic:

383 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 9:57:06am

RUNS AWAY CRYING.

384 FemNaziBitch  May 30, 2014 9:57:11am

bbl

385 Kragar  May 30, 2014 9:57:43am
386 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 9:58:18am

re: #370 wrenchwench

English is great and so flexible, ain’t it!

387 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 9:59:05am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

Thanks. Really, I just look at it from a historical perspective. We and other nations have done our best when we invest in our people. The GI Bill? Brings millions of American young men into the college system who otherwise wouldn’t be in? Oh what do you know, the 50’s becomes a prosperous time. Refusing to invest in your own people is just boneheaded.

It’s a harder case to make than you’d think though. SS, welfare and many forms of government assistance are easy to cut when you can paint them as being mere ‘costs’, but if you can actually get people to understand that they are trusts that allow potential, however small, you might actually get people opposed to ‘entitlement’ to see the worth in such a system.

You just happened to sum it up in a more concise way.

388 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:00:06am

I live in a border state too but you don’t see Canadians swarming over the border for free health care.

389 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 10:00:23am

re: #386 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

English is great and so flexible, ain’t it!

Very flexible and stretchy, but you know how it hurts when a rubber band snaps.

What’s the nic mean? Doesn’t look like Englisch….

390 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 10:01:24am

re:
#368
Targetpractice

Hell, at least this administration requested the additional funds. The VA in 2005 said that it would need a 13% budgetary increase to cover all that was asked of it. The budgetary increase in the White House’s FY06 budget? 0.5%.

You can’t just throw other people’s money at the PROLBEM!! Governemnt WASte! Scandal!

391 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 10:02:26am

re: #296 Sergey Romanov

Because I’m the Evil Master of the Earworms! Bwahahaha!

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Imma not gonna click on that. I am still suffering from “baby monkey riding backwards on a pig” from yesterday.

Plus, I’m hoping to do some work on some song tracks later tonight in my home studio…and I don’t think I need earworms right now.

: )

392 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:02:27am

re: #388 Pie-onist Overlord

I live in a border state too but you don’t see Canadians swarming over the border for free health care.

CA is also a border state, but if you look at Taxation vs spending, CA brings in more with a .8% net gain, while AZ costs the Federal governments at -8.1%.

But yeah, it must be all those illegals.
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393 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 10:02:49am

re: #389 wrenchwench

Very flexible and stretchy, but you know how it hurts when a rubber band snaps.

What’s the nic mean? Doesn’t look like Englisch….

Kant explain.

394 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:03:47am

What else could be going on in AZ?

Oh, right….

10 Meth-iest Crimes (Allegedly) Committed by Arizona Meth-Heads

395 Mike Lamb  May 30, 2014 10:05:16am

re: #340 Pie-onist Overlord

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Of fucking course he does. Goddammit, I hate living here.

396 blueraven  May 30, 2014 10:05:25am

re: #393 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

Kant explain.

I see what you did there

397 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:06:04am

Where in my Twitter bio does it say WELFARE TAKER?

398 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 10:06:35am

re: #394 Kragar

What else could be going on in AZ?

Oh, right….

10 Meth-iest Crimes (Allegedly) Committed by Arizona Meth-Heads

It’s why I’ve adopted one line I’ve heard from more than one critic of Arizona: “The Meth Lab of Democracy.”

399 Mike Lamb  May 30, 2014 10:06:37am

re: #364 Targetpractice

Arpaio’s not a sheriff, he’s a wannabe dictator.

He’s pretty close to removing the “wannabe” tag.

400 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:08:48am

re: #397 Pie-onist Overlord

Where in my Twitter bio does it say WELFARE TAKER?

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Statistically, he’s more likely to be a taker

The following historical table shows the annual ratio of federal spending to the corresponding federal revenue collected from each state. Values greater than 1 indicate the state was a net negative effect on the federal budget in that fiscal year.

Arizona 1.17
Michigan 0.83
California 0.62

401 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:09:54am

re: #397 Pie-onist Overlord

Where in my Twitter bio does it say WELFARE TAKER?

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I guess I struck a nerve. Limp dick blocked me

402 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:10:43am

What an ignorant asshat.

403 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:11:37am

re: #400 Kragar

Arizona takes in roughly 20 billion more in federal funds than it sends back to the feds in taxes and fees. It is a net recipient of federal funds.

But for those federal outlays, Arizona wouldn’t be the destination it is now - and that includes all the snowbirds who retire there. Without those funds, Arizona would be virtually uninhabited.

BTW, NY sends 40 billion more than it gets back. NY would like to get that money back. We’ve got some unfinished business - namely rebuilding and expanding our infrastructure, which has been on hold because we keep paying for stuff in places like AZ where self-styled libertarians have no problem reaping benefits of other people’s money but complain once they’re called out for the blatant hypocrisy.

404 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:12:54am

Not all auto companies received a bailout but if there was no bailout, the ENTIRE AUTO INDUSTRY would have collapsed.

Wingnuts think this would be A GOOD THING.

405 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:13:08am

re: #402 Pie-onist Overlord

What an ignorant asshat.

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This bailout?

Auto Industry Bailout an Impressive Success: Report

406 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:13:29am

re: #404 Pie-onist Overlord

Not all auto companies received a bailout but if there was no bailout, the ENTIRE AUTO INDUSTRY would have collapsed.

Wingnuts think this would be A GOOD THING.

The Free Market at work.
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407 Mike Lamb  May 30, 2014 10:14:09am

re: #366 calochortus

Arizona? 3 words: Federal water projects.

Federal Water Projects
Mining/agriculture on BLM lands
Land grant colleges

408 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:14:16am

re: #404 Pie-onist Overlord

TARP as a whole ended up generating profits on the bank bailout, and economists will debate the effects on the auto industry, but it was a net positive result on the global economy at a time when we were headed to a credit lockup and global depression.

409 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:14:51am
410 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:15:22am

re: #407 Mike Lamb

Without the federal water projects, Arizona would be uninhabitable. As it is, the state is facing the same drought as the rest of the Southwest, so even the water projects wont keep the region from suffering economically.

411 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:16:32am
412 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 10:18:52am

Have problems with anyone from Arizona that uses an image of himself on a golf course bitching about the government and “takers?”

Shut off his water.

Take that!

Edit…I see lawhawk is making a similar point.

413 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:21:00am

Faster please

414 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 10:21:10am

re: #411 Kragar

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I would laugh, but McCain and the rest of the Peanut Gallery are already demanding that we move to “privatize” the VA, by which they mean start cutting vouchers and throwing our veterans to the wolves.

415 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 10:22:13am
Shut off his water.

Don’t TREad on ME! 2nd Amendment solutions!! restart Operation American Spring!!

416 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:22:21am

re: #414 Targetpractice

Not to mention adding to the strain on a healthcare system which is trying to ramp up to deal with all the newly insured folks under the ACA.

417 darthstar  May 30, 2014 10:22:53am
418 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 10:25:04am

re: #416 calochortus

Not to mention adding to the strain on a healthcare system which is trying to ramp up to deal with all the newly insured folks under the ACA.

Indeed. Democrats wanted to create 27 new medical centers and the GOP filibustered the bill into an early grave. Republicans instead just want to dump our vets into private hospitals and let them take their chances with private hospital billing departments.

419 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:25:19am
420 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:25:57am

I’m getting bored of this idiot.

421 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:27:21am

re: #417 darthstar

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422 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 10:28:31am

re: #421 Kragar

I nominate Sarah Palin to head the VA.
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She hasn’t even finished a tour!

423 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 10:28:49am

re: #419 Kragar

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The said jerk should go to prison.

424 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:29:13am

Arizona is running out of water.

I would just love to see Arizonans and Texans come begging to the Great Lakes states & Canada for water. We will sell it to them, because we’re not heartless assholes like they are.

That’s assuming Koch Brothers & their tool Matty Moroun don’t poison the water supply.

425 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:30:22am

re: #423 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

The said jerk should go to prison.

Nah, just lose his job and face a fine.

426 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:30:24am

Lots of malignant narcissists out there…

Youtube Video

427 Alyosha  May 30, 2014 10:30:53am

re: #423 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

The said jerk should go to prison.

I think a FEMA re-ed camp should suffice.

428 klys  May 30, 2014 10:32:06am

re: #425 calochortus

Nah, just lose his job and face a fine.

From the article, the judge who appointed him is apparently fine with this because the other officiant was appointed for civil ceremonies and this one for religious ceremonies.

Apparently they forgot to write that down clearly, however.

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429 Ian G.  May 30, 2014 10:33:31am

re: #404 Pie-onist Overlord

Not all auto companies received a bailout but if there was no bailout, the ENTIRE AUTO INDUSTRY would have collapsed.

Wingnuts think this would be A GOOD THING.

I guess they think they would crush unions once and for all and that would be a good thing. Of course, think of all the auto manufacturing (unionized or not) that goes on in Red State America. Hey, I guess you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

430 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:33:40am

re: #424 Pie-onist Overlord

Arizona is running out of water.

I would just love to see Arizonans and Texans come begging to the Great Lakes states & Canada for water. We will sell it to them, because we’re not heartless assholes like they are.

That’s assuming Koch Brothers & their tool Matty Moroun don’t poison the water supply.

Why aren’t we purifying wastewater? Because it sounds icky? As though treating wastewater, dumping it in a river, pulling it out downstream and using it somehow makes it magically pure?

431 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:35:07am
432 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:35:16am

re: #428 klys

From the article, the judge who appointed him is apparently fine with this because the other officiant was appointed for civil ceremonies and this one for religious ceremonies.

Apparently they forgot to write that down clearly, however.

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Good to know my marriage of 37 years is simply a delusion because we’re not religious.

433 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2014 10:35:49am

re: #430 calochortus

Why aren’t we purifying wastewater? Because it sounds icky? As though treating wastewater, dumping it in a river, pulling it out downstream and using it somehow makes it magically pure?

Apparently, that’s how they think it works in Kentucky and West Virginia. The farther it travels the purer it gets…magically dissolved!

434 piratedan  May 30, 2014 10:37:43am

re: #407 Mike Lamb

and the time spent to maintain such national treasures as:

The Grand Canyon
The Painted Desert/Petrified Forest
Canyon De Chelly

and the huge amount of National Forest properties that exist out here.

I love Arizona, loathe it’s R bent in politics though (and I keep working to change that)

435 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:37:44am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently, that’s how they think it works in Kentucky and West Virginia. The farther it travels the purer it gets…magically dissolved!

Allegedly water in the Mississippi has been used 11 times before it gets to the gulf. And even if it weren’t, what do people think all those fish and waterfowl are using for their elimination? Portapotties?

436 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 10:38:43am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

Pro tip for diabetics and bread. Check out the glycemic index. Whole wheat pita bread is lower than whole wheat regular bread. Why? Because the longer cooking time for regular bread raising it’s glycemic rating. So you can safely make Pita, naan, flatbreads. You can mix dough and store it in the fridge. Rolling out single servings of pita or naan when needed. They take just a few minutes to cook. fresh bread every day.

Thanks!

Wait—*eyes narrow with suspicion*—unless you’re trying to get rid of me: “Here sprinkle a 1/2 teaspoon of this polonium into your bread dough then turn off the lights and wait for it to start glowing. The glowing stage indicates that all the dangers of the carbs have been counteracted, I promise!” // ;o)

437 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:40:43am

OT, but Klys, did you know that Hedgehog Handworks is having a 15% off sale?
I keep hearing some Soie Ovale calling to me…

438 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:41:17am

HURR HURR!!! I’D RUTHER LIVE IN A STATE WITH NO WATERS THEN LIVE IN A STATE WITH LIBRULZ!!!!!

439 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 10:42:03am

OT, but this is a guitar related question for the musical types:

I have a Fender tele (Mexico made) ‘52 repro. I love the maple fretboard. I’ve had rosewood fretboards before, and an ebony fretboard bass, but I always come back to the maple. Maybe it’s just the Tele neck vs. the Strat neck. I can’t say I notice a tonal difference.

So, the question: Maple or Rosewood? Preferences? Differences?

Edit: I notice frequent discussions of various gun brands and even WW2 airplanes and cars, but the guns and planes are like Greek to me. Figured there would be some guitar nuts around.

440 Gus  May 30, 2014 10:42:14am

Wait a day.

441 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:43:24am

re: #438 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!! I’D RUTHER LIVE IN A STATE WITH NO WATERS THEN LIVE IN A STATE WITH LIBRULZ!!!!!

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442 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 10:44:13am

re: #440 Gus

As @benwizner says, whether Snowden first invoked the “proper” (deliberately impotent) channels is also irrelevant politico.com

Not irrelevant at all, actually.

443 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 10:44:44am

re:
#438
Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!! I’D RUTHER LIVE IN A STATE WITH NO WATERS THEN LIVE IN A STATE WITH LIBRULZ!!!!!

Doesn’t Mich have a Repub Gov and didn’t Mich just pass an increase in the minimum wage (admittedly by less than a proposed ballot initiative would have)? I’m surprised the teabagging shock troops haven’t rioted over that one.

444 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:46:33am

re: #440 Gus

He’s bluffing his way through on nothing but a Jack high (if that). Snowden’s retcon is a con and dodge, which takes attention away from the fact that Snowden stole classified documents, most of which that have been published to date have nothing to do with US violations of US law, but rather exposing lawful programs to gather intel on foreign sources overseas.

And Greenwald is well past tiresome in his bloviation.

445 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:46:52am

re: #443 Bulworth

re:
#438
Pie-onist Overlord
HURR HURR!!! I’D RUTHER LIVE IN A STATE WITH NO WATERS THEN LIVE IN A STATE WITH LIBRULZ!!!!!

Doesn’t Mich have a Repub Gov and didn’t Mich just pass an increase in the minimum wage (admittedly by less than a proposed ballot initiative would have)? I’m surprised the teabagging shock troops haven’t rioted over that one.

The min wage increase was to $9.25 not $10.10 which the labor activists wanted, so it was a last ditch effort by state GOP to keep it from going on the ballot. Rick Snyder is GOP, in fact MI has had more GOP governors in the past 40 years than TX.

446 piratedan  May 30, 2014 10:47:31am

re: #442 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I find it strange that these folks KNOW that the whistleblowing channels are impotent because of what exactly?

447 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 10:47:47am

Snowden voiced CONCERNS!!!

448 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:48:07am

re: #440 Gus

449 calochortus  May 30, 2014 10:48:31am

BBL

450 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:50:31am

re: #445 Pie-onist Overlord

This one is all yours

451 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 10:50:44am

re:
#446
Piratedan

I find it strange that these folks KNOW that the whistleblowing channels are impotent because of what exactly?

DELIBERATELY impotent!! Deliberately!!

452 Gus  May 30, 2014 10:50:46am

re: #448 lawhawk

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Richard Milhouse Greenwald

453 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 10:51:42am

re: #446 piratedan

I find it strange that these folks KNOW that the whistleblowing channels are impotent because of what exactly?

It’s really interesting how you can hear the sneering in GG’s tweet.

454 prairiefire  May 30, 2014 10:51:59am

Three different versions of Frozen’s “Let It Go” at the 5th grade talent show today. One was a little dude who changing the wording “Queen” to “King” but forgot to change “the girl I’ve always been.”
Frozen continues its world domination of the under 15 year olds.

455 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 10:53:26am

re: #454 prairiefire

Three different versions of Frozen’s “Let It Go” at the 5th grade talent show today. One was a little dude who changing the wording “Queen” to “King” but forgot to change “the girl I’ve always been.”
Frozen continues its world domination of the under 15 year olds.

Give it 3 months. There’ll be a new shiny soon.

456 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 10:53:28am

Drudge feed is touting Dinesh D’Souza’s new book….

just ignoring one tiny tidbit.. like the bit that he’s an admitted felon.

457 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:54:04am

re: #450 Kragar

This one is all yours

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458 The War TARDIS  May 30, 2014 10:54:04am

re: #454 prairiefire

I love Frozen!!!!!

re: #450 Kragar

After she interjects, I have a comment.

459 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 10:54:38am

re: #456 lawhawk

hey! per the wingnuts (and his lawyer), he’s just an honest guy who made a mistake (a pretty damned convoluted and calculated mistake at that).

(still hoping for jail time)

460 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 10:54:57am

Snowden DID SO invoke proper concerns to the proper people at NSA

Actual: Snowden sent one innocuous unrelated question to officials.

Doesn’t matter! Impotent! Deliberately

461 darthstar  May 30, 2014 10:55:08am

re: #421 Kragar

I nominate Sarah Palin to head the VA.
/

Nah…get McCain in there, and once his Senate seat is gone, fire his ass. Then give the VA to Cruz, Paul, Rubio in that order.

462 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:55:29am

DETROIT WAS RUINED BY YOONYUNZ, LIBRULS & TEH BLAH PEOPLES!!!!!! UR ARGUMENT IS INVALID!!!! TL;DR!!!!!!

463 Kragar  May 30, 2014 10:55:39am

AKA “I’m not falling for your liberal lies!”

464 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 10:56:14am

re: #461 darthstar

Nah…get McCain in there, and once his Senate seat is gone, fire his ass. Then give the VA to Cruz, Paul, Rubio in that order.

Wouldn’t you want a veteran to be in charge of the VA? That disqualifies all three of those yahoos.

465 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 10:57:09am

re: #463 Kragar

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AKA “I’m not falling for your liberal lies!”

HURR HURR DETROIT WOULD STILL BE THRIVING IF ALL TEH AUTO WORKERS GOT MINIMUM WAGE!!!!!!

Wouldn’t you just love to drive a car made in unsafe conditions by impoverished workers?

466 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 10:58:43am

re: #464 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Wouldn’t you want a veteran to be in charge of the VA? That disqualifies all three of those yahoos.

Mr. w, a veteran, said they should put a civilian in charge. I didn’t have time to ask his reasoning this morning.

467 darthstar  May 30, 2014 10:58:50am

re: #464 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Wouldn’t you want a veteran to be in charge of the VA? That disqualifies all three of those yahoos.

Yeah…good point. Shit.

468 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 10:59:27am
469 jaunte  May 30, 2014 10:59:30am

re: #457 Pie-onist Overlord

Bankruptcy: it’s only a legit solution for wealthy GOP casino magnates.

470 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 11:00:34am

re: #436 CuriousLurker

Thanks!

Wait—*eyes narrow with suspicion*—unless you’re trying to get rid of me: “Here sprinkle a 1/2 teaspoon of this polonium into your bread dough then turn off the lights and wait for it to start glowing. The glowing stage indicates that all the dangers of the carbs have been counteracted, I promise!” // ;o)

My favorite Indian meal is chapatis and daal, simple street food so you can’t usually find it in Western restaurants. Very diabetic friendly, simple to make and very cheap.
P.S. I’m also working on a new Vox article about a new study that shows paranoia raises blood glucose.

471 Gus  May 30, 2014 11:00:39am
472 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:01:09am

re: #469 jaunte

Bankruptcy: it’s only a legit solution for wealthy GOP casino magnates.

HURR HURR!!!! I KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE DETROIT’S PROBLEMS!!!! SELL ALL TEH ART TREASURES TO ALICE WALTON & SHE CAN OPEN A WALMART IN DETROIT & CREEYATE JRRBS!!!!!!

473 darthstar  May 30, 2014 11:01:34am

Another distraction from Benghazi

474 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:02:08am

re: #466 wrenchwench

Mr. w, a veteran, said they should put a civilian in charge. I didn’t have time to ask his reasoning this morning.

I’d like to hear his reasoning. TBH, I don’t have a problem with a civilian in charge. Never served, so maybe it’s a military thing. And, ftr, my grandfather (RIP), a vet of the Battle of the Bulge, received excellent care at VA hospitals in Texas - that was a few years ago, though.

475 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:03:06am

Earnest - what a name for a press secretary. Not as good as Carney, though (Carnival barker).

476 The War TARDIS  May 30, 2014 11:03:31am

re: #465 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe I have the wrong impression, but it seems to me that White Flight is what is causing the misery of Detroit. People moved out with integration, which caused the tax base to shrink because the people moving had less means as a result of centuries of prejudice. Tis caused a vicious cycle that lasts up to know.

Of course, Canada did something a while back that I think would solve the Tax Base problem:

In Canada, the 1990s saw the forced amalgamation of several municipal entities in the provinces of Nova Scotia, Ontario and Quebec into larger new municipalities. The process created what was labeled a megacity by the media, although none of the created municipalities fit in the definition of a megacity in the international sense and some of them have fewer than a million inhabitants.

Toronto, Halifax, and Montreal being the largest examples. Amalgamate the white flight suburbs into Detroit.

That, or find a way to put a special Punishment Tax on the Suburbs to reconstruct Detroit, with special effort being made to get those still living in the city decent jobs.

477 sagehen  May 30, 2014 11:04:33am

re: #435 calochortus

Allegedly water in the Mississippi has been used 11 times before it gets to the gulf. And even if it weren’t, what do people think all those fish and waterfowl are using for their elimination? Portapotties?

“I don’t drink water. Fish fuck in it.”
— W.C. Fields

478 Gus  May 30, 2014 11:04:40am

re: #475 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Earnest - what a name for a press secretary. Not as good as Carney, though (Carnival barker).

The Importance of Being Earnest

479 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:04:45am

re: #476 The War TARDIS

Maybe I have the wrong impression, but it seems to me that White Flight is what is causing the misery of Detroit. People moved out with integration, which caused the tax base to shrink because the people moving had less means as a result of centuries of prejudice. Tis caused a vicious cycle that lasts up to know.

Of course, Canada did something a while back that I think would solve the Tax Base problem:

Toronto, Halifax, and Montreal being the largest examples. Amalgamate the white flight suburbs into Detroit.
That, or find a way to put a special Punishment Tax on the Suburbs to reconstruct Detroit, with special effort being made to get those still living in the city decent jobs.

Of course, that also gave us Rob Ford, so …

edit because blockquote fail

480 CuriousLurker  May 30, 2014 11:05:47am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

My favorite Indian meal is chapatis and daal, simple street food so you can’t usually find it in Western restaurants. Very diabetic friendly, simple to make and very cheap.

Nom, nom, nom. I didn’t realize those were diabetic friendly.

P.S. I’m also working on a new Vox article about a new study that shows paranoia raises blood glucose.

LOL

481 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 11:06:49am

re: #468 NJDhockeyfan

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Is it spring cleaning day at the White House?

482 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:07:16am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

P.S. I’m also working on a new Vox article about a new study that shows paranoia raises blood glucose.

Nice! Upding for that.

483 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:07:56am

re: #476 The War TARDIS

Maybe I have the wrong impression, but it seems to me that White Flight is what is causing the misery of Detroit. People moved out with integration, which caused the tax base to shrink because the people moving had less means as a result of centuries of prejudice. Tis caused a vicious cycle that lasts up to know.

Of course, Canada did something a while back that I think would solve the Tax Base problem:

Toronto, Halifax, and Montreal being the largest examples. Amalgamate the white flight suburbs into Detroit.

That, or find a way to put a special Punishment Tax on the Suburbs to reconstruct Detroit, with special effort being made to get those still living in the city decent jobs.

The city limits of Detroit are quite specific, and most industry moved beyond the boundaries some time ago. All these little satellite cities and townships are completely autonomous and those north of 8 Mile are not even in the same county as Detroit.

484 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 11:08:34am

Damn don’t talk about Indian food after I had lunch heh. Pretty nice lunch today though. Tortellini with Italian chicken sausage and shredded mozzarella. Kabobs for dinner tonight. Psyched for that since the grill’s up and running.

485 jaunte  May 30, 2014 11:08:52am
486 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 11:09:02am

Breaking-Jay Carney has resigned.

nbcnews.com

487 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:09:40am

re: #483 Pie-onist Overlord

The city limits of Detroit are quite specific, and most industry moved beyond the boundaries some time ago. All these little satellite cities and townships are completely autonomous and those north of 8 Mile are not even in the same county as Detroit.

This is also not a Detroit-specific problem. Houston, for instance, has similar white flight problems, and a bunch of suburban cities that cut away at its tax base while sucking at its major metro area teet.

488 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:09:44am

I drive through Detroit every day on my way to and from work in Dearborn. It’s pretty sad to see all the abandoned houses.

489 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 11:09:52am

re: #485 jaunte

Well we get what Congress authorizes to be paid for. Don’t hang that on the average taxpayer. Quibble? Maybe.

490 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 11:10:06am

re: #485 jaunte

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It’s our culture of wanting it all but not wanting ot pay for it. I blame Norquist’s stupid little tax pledges for feeding that bs.

491 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 11:10:57am

re: #487 Rev_Arthur_Belling

This is also not a Detroit-specific problem. Houston, for instance, has similar white flight problems, and a bunch of suburban cities that cut away at its tax base while sucking at its major metro area teet.

Right, white flight isn’t limited to Detroit. Honestly, I think it’s pathetic to blame the unions for Detroit’s decline. It’s a cop out honestly.

492 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 11:11:32am

re:
#473
darthstar

Another distraction from Benghazi

Confirmed. FACT. //

493 jaunte  May 30, 2014 11:12:35am

re: #489 Rightwingconspirator

We could blame it on the average GOP primary voter.

494 The War TARDIS  May 30, 2014 11:13:18am

re: #483 Pie-onist Overlord

So, Detroit is screwed then, barring some immigrant revival.

I really want to punish those Cookie-Cutter Suburbs for being too bigoted to have anybody with more than a tiny amount of skin-color.

And I have ancestry that only reaches as far south as Northern Switzerland and Northern Austria. This attitude disgusts the hell out of me.

495 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:15:03am

re: #491 HappyWarrior

Right, white flight isn’t limited to Detroit. Honestly, I think it’s pathetic to blame the unions for Detroit’s decline. It’s a cop out honestly.

All the wingnuts who blame the condition of Detroit on HUR HURR LIBRULZ!!!! have no answer when it is pointed out to them that all major cities, New York, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, even Dallas & Houston have Democrat mayors. That in fact there are no major cities with Republican mayors that they can point to as paragons of urban success.

496 Flounder  May 30, 2014 11:16:15am

I hope there is a hell.

CHENANGO BRIDGE (AP) — The pickup truck driver accused of intentionally hitting and killing a trooper conducting a traffic stop along a highway on Thursday told reporters a “time warp” might be to blame for the crash.

It is bad enough people don’t slow down for road work and warning lights. To intentionally run someone down is beyond disgusting. Trust me, it isn’t fun working on interstates when the only thing between you and the next lane are a series of cones. Pebbles feel like BB’s when they hit you.

timesunion.com

497 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:16:53am

re: #495 Pie-onist Overlord

All the wingnuts who blame the condition of Detroit on HUR HURR LIBRULZ!!!! have no answer when it is pointed out to them that all major cities, New York, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, even Dallas & Houston have Democrat mayors. That in fact there are no major cities with Republican mayors that they can point to as paragons of urban success.

FSM, don’t get me started on the White Flight evidenced in the DFW metroplex. Mixed with the proper amount of wingnut gun humping bullshit, it’s a perfect noxious stew.

498 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 11:17:36am

re: #439 Rev_Arthur_Belling

OT, but this is a guitar related question for the musical types:

I have a Fender tele (Mexico made) ‘52 repro. I love the maple fretboard. I’ve had rosewood fretboards before, and an ebony fretboard bass, but I always come back to the maple. Maybe it’s just the Tele neck vs. the Strat neck. I can’t say I notice a tonal difference.

So, the question: Maple or Rosewood? Preferences? Differences?

Edit: I notice frequent discussions of various gun brands and even WW2 airplanes and cars, but the guns and planes are like Greek to me. Figured there would be some guitar nuts around.

I’m no expert Rev…but necks have different widths, thicknesses and radii. Strats tend to be a bit narrower than a Tele but sometimes a bit thicker in cross section. So, I’ve always been told to go for what feels best in your hand. As far as all maple versus rosewood or ebony upper that seems to have some tonal differences. All maple is more bright and tighter sounds, the rosewood is supposed to give more lower tones and mellower highs. I think the use of ebony is for the same reason as rosewood, but it is longer lasting and less prone to wear.

Guitars are amazing pieces of both art and physics. No two ever sound the same even if using the same materials. A maple neck on an alder or ash body is what fender was always about. Gibson tended to be more about using various woods for different characteristics. And weight of the whole thing comes into play too. A Tele is a lightweight compared to a classic Les Paul. But then a Tele doesn’t have the sustain of a Les Paul.

And then there is all the other thinking in all the other makes. They all have their place.

The one guy I still play mostly with the most has well over 100+ guitars. Some as inexpensive as a Danelectro plywood to his Gretsch. They all have their place in the world.

499 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 11:18:12am

re: #495 Pie-onist Overlord

All the wingnuts who blame the condition of Detroit on HUR HURR LIBRULZ!!!! have no answer when it is pointed out to them that all major cities, New York, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, even Dallas & Houston have Democrat mayors. That in fact there are no major cities with Republican mayors that they can point to as paragons of urban success.

Exactly. Really if Detroit’s failure is such an indictment on the failures of liberalism in big cities, then they should perhaps explain those cities. They can’t though because all they know about Detroit if what they’re told.

500 Gus  May 30, 2014 11:18:31am
501 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:19:20am

This meme is going around Teh Twitters.
I actually looked up SB 1159 on Google and guess what! It says NOTHING about undocumented immigrants or veterans.

502 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 11:20:55am

re: #439 Rev_Arthur_Belling

OT, but this is a guitar related question for the musical types:

I have a Fender tele (Mexico made) ‘52 repro. I love the maple fretboard. I’ve had rosewood fretboards before, and an ebony fretboard bass, but I always come back to the maple. Maybe it’s just the Tele neck vs. the Strat neck. I can’t say I notice a tonal difference.

So, the question: Maple or Rosewood? Preferences? Differences?

Edit: I notice frequent discussions of various gun brands and even WW2 airplanes and cars, but the guns and planes are like Greek to me. Figured there would be some guitar nuts around.

I’ve got Teles and Strats, and I’ve got both maple and rosewood necks. The maple necks tend to make the guitar sound brighter, while rosewood tends to darken the tone a bit. I use the maple necked guitars if I want the Tele ‘quack’ or ‘spank’ of the Strat (mostly for country), and the rosewood when I’m playing rock.

503 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:21:20am

Jo Jo is blocked now.

504 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 11:22:19am

re: #501 Pie-onist Overlord

This meme is going around Teh Twitters.
I actually looked up SB 1159 on Google and guess what! It says NOTHING about undocumented immigrants or veterans.

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What about those illegal aliens who are veterans. And there have been quite a bit of them including many of who have died in combat.

505 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:22:55am

re: #498 ObserverArt

Thanks for the observations. I just was searching google, and apparently, Les Paul made some maple necks a while back. Consensus seems to be the maple is brighter, which may explain that bright Tele tone. I just like the feel, like I said. Maybe it’s the finish vs. unfinish of the rosewood, although I loved the ebony on my Gibson T-Bird bass. Not sure I’d have the same response on a guitar, though.

I really think the LP sustain comes from the body, though.

And agreed, they are beautiful works of art. One day, I’d like a Paul Reed Smith and I have a few acoustic luthiers’ guitars I’d like to own too.

506 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 11:23:48am

re: #475 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Earnest - what a name for a press secretary. Not as good as Carney, though (Carnival barker).

Now, he needs an assistant called “Frank”. Then we would have a “Frank and Earnest Press Department”

RBS

507 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:25:18am

re: #502 makeitstop

I’ve got Teles and Strats, and I’ve got both maple and rosewood necks. The maple necks tend to make the guitar sound brighter, while rosewood tends to darken the tone a bit. I use the maple necked guitars if I want the Tele ‘quack’ or ‘spank’ of the Strat (mostly for country), and the rosewood when I’m playing rock.

Again, thanks for the reply. I play my tele for rock and a more country/folk sound, but I think a lot comes from the amp (Line 6 modeling).

I love that Tele sound! Also love the jangle of the Rickenbackers, but those are pricey!

508 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:28:31am

WHUT

509 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 11:28:45am

re: #498 ObserverArt

…SNIP…
The one guy I still play mostly with the most has well over 100+ guitars. Some as inexpensive as a Danelectro plywood to his Gretsch. They all have their place in the world.

A friend of mine who is an avid guitarist got on me for having 5 bicycles. I tried to explain that they were all different, good for different purposes, each was unique when I rode them… He kept saying ‘yea, but they are just bikes’. I asked him “And how many guitars do you have now?”. He got exactly what I meant.

I’m no musician, but I do woodwork, I love rosewood, and think that rosewood coupled with curly (or quilted) maple is one of the most beautiful combinations there is.

510 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 11:30:14am

re: #474 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’d like to hear his reasoning. TBH, I don’t have a problem with a civilian in charge. Never served, so maybe it’s a military thing. And, ftr, my grandfather (RIP), a vet of the Battle of the Bulge, received excellent care at VA hospitals in Texas - that was a few years ago, though.

He happened to call…

He said there’s a ‘corporate culture’ that’s part of the problem, and a civilian from the health care industry could ignore that and get around it, and a military person cannot.

511 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:31:37am

Gee, maybe he could have at least saved some documents that would exonerate him.

512 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 11:32:02am

re: #510 wrenchwench

He happened to call…

He said there’s a ‘corporate culture’ that’s part of the problem, and a civilian from the health care industry could ignore that and get around it, and a military person cannot.

Interesting. Not surprised to hear there’s a corporate culture. We’ve seen the run the government like you would a business rhetoric for years now.

513 Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2014 11:32:35am

OT, but for those Lizards interested in history, here’s one of the most unique documentary films ever made.

General Idi Amin Dada: A Self Portrait by Barbet Schroeder.

Director Barbet Schroeder has characterized the film as a “self-portrait” by Amin. While Schroeder and cameraman Nestor Almendros were given unprecedented access to Amin’s daily life, the documentary makes it plain that many of the events (including the residents of a garrison town turning out en masse to greet Amin) were staged for their benefit. In several sequences, Amin actively directs the cameraman to particular points of interest, at one point shouting to “film that helicopter!”

However, Amin’s influence as a “director” went beyond the actual filming of Idi Amin Dada. As per his agreement with Amin, Barbet Schroeder made two versions of his documentary: the first, an hour-long cut, was released in Uganda and delivered directly to Amin, who was apparently pleased with the result. The second version was released only outside Uganda and contained an additional half-hour of footage and narration.

According to Schroeder, Amin dispatched his agents in Britain to watch the film and write down a full transcript of its contents. Amin soon sent a letter to Schroeder requesting additional cuts to the film, but Schroeder refused. In response, Amin rounded up almost 200 French citizens living in Uganda and confined them to a hotel surrounded by the Ugandan army, supplying them with Schroeder’s home telephone number and explaining that their release was conditional on Schroeder’s acquiescence. In the face of this dilemma, Schroeder made the requested cuts, replacing the 21/2 minutes of excised footage with title cards crediting the gaps to Amin. On Amin’s fall from power, Schroeder restored the missing material, and most versions seen today contain the full footage.

Be forewarned; there are some scenes of violence in the film. Nonetheless, it’s quite fascinating. I was a child when Idi Amin was in power, and for those Lizards who remember his erratic reign, this film will serve as something of an insider’s view; for those Lizards born after his regime, it will be a unique glimpse of one the Twentieth Century’s most bizarre dictators.

Youtube Video

514 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 11:32:54am

re: #500 Gus

@jearnest44

Wow. ‘Josh’ is the exact opposite of ‘earnest’. What a great name. Perfect for the job, too.

515 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:33:02am

Glenn is such an asshole that he even snarks and insults his own groupies.

516 Gus  May 30, 2014 11:33:04am

re: #511 Pie-onist Overlord

Gee, maybe he could have at least saved some documents that would exonerate him.

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Right.

517 lawhawk  May 30, 2014 11:33:24am

re: #475 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Youtube Video

518 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 11:35:52am

re: #507 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Again, thanks for the reply. I play my tele for rock and a more country/folk sound, but I think a lot comes from the amp (Line 6 modeling).

Hell, I’ll talk guitars all day if you get me started. And amps… I’ve got a few pieces of Line 6 gear, which come in very handy for recording purposes. For live, I’ve been using an Atomic Reactor (that one’s an 18 watt amp, while I’ve got the 50 watt version) with a first-generation Vox Tonelab modeler. I prefer the Vox for live because it’s got an actual 12AX7 preamp tube in it, and it get a lot closer to a ‘real’ tube amp tone. (The Reactor is a tube amp, with no internal volume or tone controls, which makes the amp ‘transparent’ and all the tone control is done through the modeler.)

I love that Tele sound! Also love the jangle of the Rickenbackers, but those are pricey!

I love my Teles. Truly a Swiss Army Knife of guitars - way more versatile than a lot of guitars with all the bells and whistles!

I’ve tried Rics, can’t play ‘em with my big ham hands. The necks are very narrow. I run into the same problem with my Gretsch, but I love that guitar, skinny neck and all. :)

519 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 11:37:37am

Why does every minor news has to be BREAKING?

520 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 11:38:05am

re: #504 HappyWarrior

What about those illegal aliens who are veterans. And there have been quite a bit of them including many of who have died in combat.

And including some who have been deported and will be allowed back once they are dead so they can be buried here.

521 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 11:39:52am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

Interesting. Not surprised to hear there’s a corporate culture. We’ve seen the run the government like you would a business rhetoric for years now.

Technically, a flag officer never quite retires—they can always be recalled in time of need. That’s partly how RDML Grace Hopper was still in the Navy at just under 80.

522 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:40:06am

re: #518 makeitstop

Hell, I’ll talk guitars all day if you get me started. And amps… I’ve got a few pieces of Line 6 gear, which come in very handy for recording purposes. For live, I’ve been using an Atomic Reactor (that one’s an 18 watt amp, while I’ve got the 50 watt version) with a first-generation Vox Tonelab modeler. I prefer the Vox for live because it’s got an actual 12AX7 preamp tube in it, and it get a lot closer to a ‘real’ tube amp tone. (The Reactor is a tube amp, with no internal volume or tone controls, which makes the amp ‘transparent’ and all the tone control is done through the modeler.)

I love my Teles. Truly a Swiss Army Knife of guitars - way more versatile than a lot of guitars with all the bells and whistles!

I’ve tried Rics, can’t play ‘em with my big ham hands. The necks are very narrow. I run into the same problem with my Gretsch, but I love that guitar, skinny neck and all. :)

My main problem with the Rics is keeping them in tune (I had a solid-body, not the semi-hollow). I love tube amps! I’m looking at the Strat maple necks, but I’d like to expand to some humbuckers for my next axe.

523 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:41:48am

Also, seems a lot of ppl look down on the tele, until they play one. The strat gets all the love, along with the les paul.

524 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 11:42:47am

Now I want to have a kid just so I can name him (or her) Josh Earnest.

OK, maybe another cat…

525 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 11:44:08am

re: #509 RealityBasedSteve

A friend of mine who is an avid guitarist got on me for having 5 bicycles. I tried to explain that they were all different, good for different purposes, each was unique when I rode them… He kept saying ‘yea, but they are just bikes’. I asked him “And how many guitars do you have now?”. He got exactly what I meant.

I’m no musician, but I do woodwork, I love rosewood, and think that rosewood coupled with curly (or quilted) maple is one of the most beautiful combinations there is.

I love wood. But right now, I am in a titanic battle with the quarter-sawn white oak trim in the 1906 house I am rehabbing. The entire main lower and upper hallway and main staircase is all quarter-sawn white oak, and it gives the house a hell of a lot of character. But it was abused when the place was an inner city slum-landlord rooming house/apartment.

It is gorgeous with all tiger stripes and crazy patterns, but it is a real bitch to strip it. I think it was originally covered with shellac and then probably hit with a few coats of older spar varnishes. Getting all that old dark varnish out of the grain in taking me forever. I use mild strippers (3M Safest stripper…when I can get it) and they are doing a good job of getting the upper coats off, but then toi get down into those little deep “hair-like” grain flecks is proving to be very time consuming. I am going through brass wire brushes left and right, and with the safer strippers, there is a bit of fuzziness left that needs to be sanded.

But I’ll do what I have to do, because I can well imagine how it will all look when finished. I figure this is going to take me all summer and into fall.

And then it will be going through the same process with the formal living room and the mahogany trim in it.

526 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 11:44:25am

BROKEN! I’m hungry.

527 piratedan  May 30, 2014 11:45:23am

re: #511 Pie-onist Overlord

who knew that breaking the law was so…. brave?

If that’s the case, if the NSA is alleged to have broken the law in the supposed pursuit of making us a safer country, shouldn’t they be considered heroes?

528 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:46:45am

re: #527 piratedan

who knew that breaking the law was so…. brave?

If that’s the case, if the NSA is alleged to have broken the law in the supposed pursuit of making us a safer country, shouldn’t they be considered heroes?

So far none of the revealed documents have shown any evidence of lawbreaking on the part of the NSA.

529 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 11:47:19am

re: #522 Rev_Arthur_Belling

My main problem with the Rics is keeping them in tune (I had a solid-body, not the semi-hollow). I love tube amps! I’m looking at the Strat maple necks, but I’d like to expand to some humbuckers for my next axe.

It’s always nice to have a humbucking guitar around. While you can get close to the sound with a Fender and a modeler, it’s never 100%. And of course, single-coil pickups can get pretty noisy through a high-gain amp (or if the electrical wiring in a venue is old or badly done). Humbuckers stay relatively quiet through it all.

Another alternative to Fender single-coils is a P-90-equipped guitar. After all, they built humbuckers to emulate the sound of P-90s!

530 piratedan  May 30, 2014 11:49:49am

re: #528 Pie-onist Overlord

I know, just busy attempting to hoist Greenwald on his own logical petard…. :-)

531 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 11:51:18am

re: #529 makeitstop

whoa, never heard of the p-90 before, just looking it up. Whoa!

My bass playing has always been on humbuckers, but I admire the Fender Jazz. My baby was a Thunderbird, which I foolishly traded away. An Ibanez dual humbucker has filled the gap, at least.

532 Flounder  May 30, 2014 11:52:50am

re: #525 ObserverArt

Have you tried a heat gun?

533 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:53:19am

Got another libertarian moron on that HURR HURR BEFORE TEH INCOME TAXES EVERYTHING WAS SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!!

534 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 11:54:56am

re: #531 Rev_Arthur_Belling

whoa, never heard of the p-90 before, just looking it up. Whoa!

My bass playing has always been on humbuckers, but I admire the Fender Jazz. My baby was a Thunderbird, which I foolishly traded away. An Ibanez dual humbucker has filled the gap, at least.

I’m in the midst of building a Jazz Bass replica for a friend’s upcoming 50th birthday. That’s the beauty of Leo Fender’s work - due to the use of a bolt-on neck, anyone can build a pretty good working copy of a Fender guitar.

Back to P-90s: think Leslie West on ‘Mississippi Queen.’ That’s a single P-90 in all its roaring glory, on a Les Paul Junior.

535 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 11:55:09am

Hurr Hurr Teh income tax took away all are Freedoms!!Too confusing, complicated!!

536 jaunte  May 30, 2014 11:56:20am

re: #533 Pie-onist Overlord

She’ll have to wait a while for a reply; people have to cut quill pens, make ink, save enough to buy some paper, and find a messenger with a horse, willing to take the mail down to wherever she lives.

537 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 11:56:39am
538 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 11:57:38am

re: #518 makeitstop

Hell, I’ll talk guitars all day if you get me started. And amps… I’ve got a few pieces of Line 6 gear, which come in very handy for recording purposes. For live, I’ve been using an Atomic Reactor (that one’s an 18 watt amp, while I’ve got the 50 watt version) with a first-generation Vox Tonelab modeler. I prefer the Vox for live because it’s got an actual 12AX7 preamp tube in it, and it get a lot closer to a ‘real’ tube amp tone. (The Reactor is a tube amp, with no internal volume or tone controls, which makes the amp ‘transparent’ and all the tone control is done through the modeler.)

I love my Teles. Truly a Swiss Army Knife of guitars - way more versatile than a lot of guitars with all the bells and whistles!

I’ve tried Rics, can’t play ‘em with my big ham hands. The necks are very narrow. I run into the same problem with my Gretsch, but I love that guitar, skinny neck and all. :)

Hey! I use a Vox Valvetronic 2 x 12 modeling amp with the same preamp stage. I love it. The other guitarist has the real Vox AC30 with the Blue Alnico Speakers. We also have a Hartke bass amp fed into a small Carvin 15” cabinet. It’s nice because it has an XLR connector right on the front fro direct to the mixer.

I have two Tradition Tele-like guitars. I got them through a guitar wizard here in Columbus. He sold them to me many years back. They are made in Korea, but have necks from America attached. The Korean bodies are made of ash that is still very much available over there I am told.

I had him add a Seymour Duncan classic double stack pickup in the bridge position, a new Tele-like brass bar bridge and a single thickness black pickguard on the natural finish with a maple neck. It has that classic original Tele look.

Overall, I am the drummer and I have a fairly new Yamaha set about 5-years old. But, in the last many years I’ve gotten a bit better on guitar too. I write most of the songs we put together.

539 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:02:53pm
540 Targetpractice  May 30, 2014 12:03:54pm

re: #539 Pie-onist Overlord

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A tax system that discourages spending? And these geniuses think that will lead to economic prosperity?

541 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 12:04:12pm

Oh, today’s meme is the consumption tax? smh

542 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:04:21pm

HURR HURR!!!! POORS SHOULD JUST SUCK IT UP & NOT BUY STUFF!!!!!

543 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 30, 2014 12:04:21pm

BROKEN! No longer hungry.

544 jaunte  May 30, 2014 12:04:33pm

re: #539 Pie-onist Overlord

The poor are free to stop wasting all their money on mansions, yachts and sportscars.

545 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:05:13pm

OK now I know this freaking stupid meme is being passed around by Tax-Teh-Poors assholes.

546 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:05:32pm
547 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 12:06:25pm

re: #534 makeitstop

I’m in the midst of building a Jazz Bass replica for a friend’s upcoming 50th birthday. That’s the beauty of Leo Fender’s work - due to the use of a bolt-on neck, anyone can build a pretty good working copy of a Fender guitar.

Back to P-90s: think Leslie West on ‘Mississippi Queen.’ That’s a single P-90 in all its roaring glory, on a Les Paul Junior.

That Jazz replica sounds awesome. I never got the appeal of the P-Bass, as the tone was so limited, but taste.

I should curse you for mentioning the p-90 now, as it’s something to lighten my wallet lol

548 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 12:07:58pm

I wonder how long the “collaboration” between NBC/MSNBC and First Look is going to last?

Godwald is suffering some major butthurt because he’s lashing out wildly.

549 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:09:42pm

So much teh stupids.

550 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 30, 2014 12:09:52pm

re: #548 Justanotherhuman

Godwald is suffering some major butthurt because he’s lashing out wildly.

There’s a lot of butthurt over at the GOS as well. They’re going with the “Are you going to believe the gov’t or High Lord Snowden/Godwald” line.

551 jaunte  May 30, 2014 12:11:12pm

re: #550 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

They’re going with the “Are you going to believe the gov’t or High Lord Snowden/Godwald” line.

So they’ve got nothing.

552 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2014 12:11:30pm

re: #515 Pie-onist Overlord

Glenn is such an asshole that he even snarks and insults his own groupies.

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“Nuance”…a concept with which GG is as familiar and adept as he is with “Humor” and “Sarcasm”.

553 Interesting Times  May 30, 2014 12:11:41pm

re: #546 Pie-onist Overlord

Did you see this?

Someone finally polled the 1% — And it’s not pretty

Screenshot of poll results

It’s like they’re deliberately trying to live up to every “rich asshole” stereotype you can think of (sniveling, fawning bios saying the “koch brothers aren’t so bad after all” aside)

Edited to add: and how many of the people polled got where they are through the help of the very social programs and infrastructure that they disdain? The poll’s entire results can be summed up as “FU, I got mine”

554 Bulworth  May 30, 2014 12:12:05pm

somehow I think the teabagging party base hasn’t thought through this whole consumption tax business….

555 Gus  May 30, 2014 12:14:21pm

re: #548 Justanotherhuman

I wonder how long the “collaboration” between NBC/MSNBC and First Look is going to last?

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Godwald is suffering some major butthurt because he’s lashing out wildly.

REP. KING GIVING HIS OPINION THAT BRIAN WILLIAMS SHOULD HAVE “GONE AFTER” EDWARD SNOWDEN IS TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

556 b.d.  May 30, 2014 12:14:59pm

I’m still waiting for the day that Team Snowden doesn’t have to go into full defelction/damage control mode after Snowden shows his face.

557 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:15:04pm

What a hateful, evil bitch:

558 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 12:15:37pm

re: #538 ObserverArt

Hey! I use a Vox Valvetronic 2 x 12 modeling amp with the same preamp stage. I love it. The other guitarist has the real Vox AC30 with the Blue Alnico Speakers.

A friend has got a Valvetronic - always sounds pretty good. I’ve got a line on a second 1G Tonelab that I’ll probably pick up next week. Nice to have a spare in case the first one goes toes-up. :)

I have two Tradition Tele-like guitars. I got them through a guitar wizard here in Columbus. He sold them to me many years back. They are made in Korea, but have necks from America attached. The Korean bodies are made of ash that is still very much available over there I am told.

I’ve got four Teles, and only one of them is a full factory stock Fender. I’ve got one with a Lollar rail in it (for heavier stuff) and one with a Hipshot B-G bender (both ‘Esquire’ style with one pickup), and a double-bound black body which is my favorite. All three of them are assembled from bodies and necks that I’ve picked up here and there, Like I said, if you can work a screwdriver and soldering iron, you can build a pretty good guitar without a lot of effort.

559 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 12:15:52pm

Vonny is blocked. I can deal with Teh Stupid but not with Teh Evil.

560 Gus  May 30, 2014 12:15:53pm
561 Lidane  May 30, 2014 12:15:54pm

re: #554 Bulworth

somehow I think the teabagging party base hasn’t thought through this whole consumption tax business….

Cut the baggers some slack. They’re still stuck on the Earth being 6000 years old, the Flintstones being a documentary and slavery being a good thing that would have ended on its own if it hadn’t been for that asshole tyrant Lincoln.

/////

562 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 12:16:09pm

re: #557 Pie-onist Overlord

What a hateful, evil bitch:

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I just blocked her for being annoying even though we’ve never tweeted at each other.

563 b.d.  May 30, 2014 12:17:20pm

A “news” show near you soon:

Next Tuesday: Our exclusive interview with Edward Snowden

Next Wednesday: Greenwald and crew are our guests to explain what Snowden really meant to say.

564 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 12:18:02pm

Meanwhile in Thailand: Thai Coup Chief: No Elections for More than a Year
Coup coup ca choo!

565 Bear  May 30, 2014 12:18:14pm

I do not think food or medicine should ever be taxed.

566 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 12:18:41pm

re: #538 ObserverArt

re: #558 makeitstop

So a 30w Valvtronix should be enough for a gig? Modeling ok? Like I said, I’ve used Line 6, but loaned from a friend, so I’m still in the market for a decent amp. (have a small 15w practice amp atm - had a Fender Twin Reverb at one point, but smh I sold it).

567 Lidane  May 30, 2014 12:19:08pm

Oh, well that explains everything:

568 jaunte  May 30, 2014 12:19:53pm

re: #554 Bulworth

somehow I think the teabagging party base hasn’t thought through this whole consumption tax business….

“Temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

569 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 12:21:38pm

re: #565 Bear

I do not think food or medicine should ever be taxed.

They removed the sales tax from food a few years ago in NM. The state made up some of the revenue to cities and counties that they lost, but only for a few years. Now that’s expiring and police and library staff and street maintenance are being cut. They got addicted to that money and are having a difficult withdrawal.

570 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 12:21:47pm

re: #563 b.d.

A “news” show near you soon:

Next Tuesday: Our exclusive interview with Edward Snowden

Next Wednesday: Greenwald and crew are our guests to explain what Snowden really meant to say.

Well, the FSB didn’t brief Snowjob well enough, I suppose, according to the Gospel of Godwald.

571 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 12:22:13pm

re: #547 Rev_Arthur_Belling

That Jazz replica sounds awesome. I never got the appeal of the P-Bass, as the tone was so limited, but taste.

I should curse you for mentioning the p-90 now, as it’s something to lighten my wallet lol

Glad to help! :)

My most recent build was a Jazzmaster copy - yet another Fender that’s got a really unique sound. My bass player friend saw it and told me he wanted me to build a bass to match - so I’m building it on the sly to give to him for his birthday. Here’s what the Jazzy looks like:

Jazzmaster

572 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 12:22:24pm

re: #567 Lidane

Oh, well that explains everything:

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Is He burning out in re-entry through the atmosphere?

573 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 12:24:57pm

re: #571 makeitstop

Dude! can you make me one? Seriously, that is some nice work.

574 klys  May 30, 2014 12:27:16pm

I can’t chime on the guitar-y aspects, but in harp-land maple is often described as having a brighter tone, while cherry is favored for being a little more mellow and walnut is warm.

575 makeitstop  May 30, 2014 12:28:59pm

re: #573 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Dude! can you make me one? Seriously, that is some nice work.

Thank you! That’s the first time I started from scratch and did all the finishing, wiring and assembly.

I got the JM body as part of a trade for a ‘66 Tele bridge pickup (along with all the parts to build a Strat!) and I thought it was going to be a dog. Turns out to be one of my favorite guitars.

576 Rev_Arthur_Belling  May 30, 2014 12:32:17pm

re: #575 makeitstop

Thank you! That’s the first time I started from scratch and did all the finishing, wiring and assembly.

I got the JM body as part of a trade for a ‘66 Tele bridge pickup (along with all the parts to build a Strat!) and I thought it was going to be a dog. Turns out to be one of my favorite guitars.

It looks like such a unique beast. Bet that was fun. Would love to hear how that sounds. I’ve never played a jazz master before. Recently discovered a Starcaster remake, but they don’t make a real case for it (wtf?), so I’m skeptical.

577 EmmaAnne  May 30, 2014 12:59:08pm

re: #306 BlackPearl

EmmaAnne asked in the last thread:

Please explain this joke from the article:

Because I am a dork, it became VERY IMPORTANT that I register to answer. I’m not a real programmer, so I may get it wrong, but the internet is like that. Hi everyone!

So he’s saying, “Right general idea, but replace the camelcase convention with the underscore convention,” instead of being a normal human being and saying, “No, it’s not arrayReverse, it’s array_reverse.” And the point is to strive to be a normal person, I think. :)

You rock. It was this tiny niggling annoyance in a corner of my brain and now all is serene (in that corner anyway).

578 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 1:20:18pm

re: #565 Bear

I do not think food or medicine should ever be taxed.

The State of Alabama disagrees with ya’.


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