1 darthstar  May 30, 2014 4:11:35pm

A reality TV star who shows up in character. Makes me jealous of the GOP.

2 darthstar  May 30, 2014 4:12:46pm
3 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:13:25pm
4 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 30, 2014 4:14:49pm

He looks like a cross between a Biblical patriarch, a member of ZZ Top and a Confederate colonel. What better image to promote the modern GOP?

5 abolitionist  May 30, 2014 4:15:45pm

That finger. I’ve seen that gesture in so many public speakers. Seems to say Hey, I’m smart. I can count.

6 thecommodore  May 30, 2014 4:16:16pm

PHIL ROBERTSON SHOULD SHUT UP AND SING!!!11TY

7 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 4:17:06pm

I see guys like that around here and they usually are pretty damned scary.

Talk about “retro”.

8 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 4:17:22pm

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He looks like a cross between a Biblical patriarch, a member of ZZ Top and a Confederate colonel and a member of the Taliban. What better image to promote the modern GOP?

9 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 4:17:38pm

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He looks like a cross between a Biblical patriarch, a member of ZZ Top and a Confederate colonel. What better image to promote the modern GOP?

I remember the days when the GOP campaigned on being “the adults in the room”.

If I were truly malicious, I’d go onto RW internet sites and propose bringing this slogan back as a good idea.

10 b.d.  May 30, 2014 4:17:49pm

OK, so their re-branding is camouflaged.

Please proceed GOP.

11 darthstar  May 30, 2014 4:18:45pm

re: #5 abolitionist

That finger. I’ve seen that gesture in so many public speakers. Seems to say Hey, I’m smart. I can count.

…to one.

12 KingKenrod  May 30, 2014 4:19:03pm

re: #5 abolitionist

That finger. I’ve seen that gesture in so many public speakers. Seems to say Hey, I’m smart. I can count.

When I saw the picture I thought “Who’s that asshole, and why is he ranting like a fascist?”. The finger says it all.

13 b.d.  May 30, 2014 4:19:13pm

WE HATE ALL OF THE TV AND MOVIE STARS THAT PUT THEIR NOSE INTO POLITICS

14 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 4:20:21pm

That big ol’ beard be all biblical.

I bet he has some stone tablets lying around somewhere too.

15 darthstar  May 30, 2014 4:22:45pm
16 darthstar  May 30, 2014 4:24:26pm

Does a bear shit in the woods? Not if he’s on his hammock.

17 klys  May 30, 2014 4:25:05pm

re: #16 darthstar

I’m impressed the hammock is hanging in there.

/ducks

18 Floral Giraffe  May 30, 2014 4:25:49pm

Completely frightening! Maybe even more than Orly Taitz!

19 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 4:29:15pm
20 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 4:31:57pm

Here’s a handsome birdbrain.

21 Archangelus  May 30, 2014 4:33:07pm

Seriously, the Democratic Party could not have dreamed of being delivered better political ammunition than the insane craziness that the TPGOP has brought to its doorstep on an election year. If the party fails to obliterate the GOP in the coming elections, it will be a fail of staggering proportions.

22 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 4:35:28pm

re: #21 Archangelus

Seriously, the Democratic Party could not have dreamed of being delivered better political ammunition than the insane craziness that the TPGOP has brought to their doorstep on an election year. If the party fails to obliterate the GOP in the coming elections, it will be a fail of staggering proportions.

Alas it seems impossible for the GOP to suffer the kind of 45+ state blowout in a presidential election that would give GOP reform the kick in the ass it desperately needs.

23 Archangelus  May 30, 2014 4:36:58pm

re: #20 wrenchwench

Here’s a handsome birdbrain.

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A message from the Citadel announcing the coming of summer… /GoT

In all seriousness though, that’s a lovely shot.

24 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 4:37:20pm

he looks very sane and conservative - just like the kind of people who go to bible college

25 Archangelus  May 30, 2014 4:37:47pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

Alas it seems impossible for the GOP to suffer the kind of 45+ state blowout in a presidential election that would give GOP reform the kick in the ass it desperately needs.

Hey a guy can dream, can’t he?

26 Lidane  May 30, 2014 4:41:22pm

Rebranding!

27 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 4:41:28pm

Joni Ernst: UCSB Shooting Was An ‘Unfortunate Accident’

huffingtonpost.com

28 Lidane  May 30, 2014 4:42:52pm

More rebranding!

29 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 4:43:17pm

re: #26 Lidane

As I get older and crankier, I find that I can bear the misfortunes of Quislings like the Log Cabin Republicans with great fortitude.

30 Lidane  May 30, 2014 4:43:45pm

re: #27 Skip Intro

Joni Ernst: UCSB Shooting Was An ‘Unfortunate Accident’

huffingtonpost.com

It was murder. Deliberate, premeditated murder because some entitled little douchebag couldn’t get laid and blamed women for it.

There wasn’t anything accidental about it.

31 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 4:44:47pm

re: #30 Lidane

It was murder. Deliberate, premeditated murder because some entitled little douchebag couldn’t get laid and blamed women for it.

There wasn’t anything accidental about it.

This x100. It boggles the mind that anyone, even a Republican, would refer to this as ‘an accident’.

32 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 4:45:06pm

re: #27 Skip Intro

Joni Ernst: UCSB Shooting Was An ‘Unfortunate Accident’

huffingtonpost.com

I’m surprised she didn’t offer to castrate some sexist pigs or something.

33 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 4:45:36pm

re: #30 Lidane

It was murder. Deliberate, premeditated murder because some entitled little douchebag couldn’t get laid and blamed women for it.

There wasn’t anything accidental about it.

Sarah Palin’s candidate is a complete idiot, just like Sarah.

34 freetoken  May 30, 2014 4:45:47pm

re: #24 dog philosopher

he looks very sane and conservative - just like the kind of people who go to bible college

Having the Ayatollah of Alligators, the Duke of Duck-calls, as your figure head is bad?

35 Lidane  May 30, 2014 4:45:48pm
36 Lidane  May 30, 2014 4:47:39pm

Because if the GOP lacks anything, it’s religion:

37 jaunte  May 30, 2014 4:47:47pm

re: #27 Skip Intro

“I have been endorsed by the NRA in this race and again just because of a horrible, horrible tragedy, I don’t believe we should be infringing upon people’s Second Amendment rights. I will stand firmly behind that when I go to Washington, DC, as your next United States Senator.”

Because I’m totally owned and operated by an industry lobbying group.

38 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  May 30, 2014 4:48:25pm

re: #35 Lidane

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Oh look. He can count to 2.

39 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 4:49:00pm

re: #27 Skip Intro

Joni Ernst: UCSB Shooting Was An ‘Unfortunate Accident’

huffingtonpost.com

No, an unfortunate accident is when I leave the package of fresh chicken out overnight and have to throw it away. Murder is Murder, not an unfortunate accident.

RBS

40 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 4:49:37pm

re: #37 jaunte

Because I’m totally owned and operated by an industry lobbying group.

Campaigning with Willard Romney today, she looks to be the likely winner of her primary next week.

41 Interesting Times  May 30, 2014 4:50:40pm

re: #36 Lidane

On another note, have these people shown up in Austin yet?

Yes, I admit I’m nervous. I’m Canadian. I’m not used to being in places where everyone and their dog owns guns o_O

42 klys  May 30, 2014 4:51:29pm

re: #41 Interesting Times

On another note, have these people shown up in Austin yet?

Yes, I admit I’m nervous. I’m Canadian. I’m not used to being in places where everyone and their dog owns guns o_O

Even in Texas, you are likely to be able to avoid seeing them.

But if I’m wrong and you do, don’t make eye contact and walk the other direction.

43 Lidane  May 30, 2014 4:55:37pm

re: #41 Interesting Times

On another note, have these people shown up in Austin yet?

Yes, I admit I’m nervous. I’m Canadian. I’m not used to being in places where everyone and their dog owns guns o_O

Yeah, I’ve seen those dipshits walking around. I saw some of them when I was leaving a happy hour mixer last week. They looked like complete tools with their guns strapped on and waving flags saying COME AND TAKE IT AUSTIN!.

Just hang out in the bars and restaurants with a TABC license and you’ll be fine. By law guns aren’t allowed in any TABC licensed business so those morons would get arrested trying to walk in the door and they know it.

44 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 4:56:22pm

re: #42 klys

Even in Texas, you are likely to be able to avoid seeing them.

But if I’m wrong and you do, don’t make eye contact and walk the other direction.

Looks like these assholes will have to go somewhere else to wave their make believe dicks around.

Sonic And Chili’s Announce No-Gun Policies

How about Chick-fil-A?

huffingtonpost.com

45 jaunte  May 30, 2014 4:59:04pm

re: #43 Lidane

They could go out in the countryside and perform a useful function by hunting wild pigs, but that would be a lot harder work than walking around the city with rifles intimidating unarmed people.

46 Lidane  May 30, 2014 5:00:51pm

re: #45 jaunte

They could go out in the countryside and perform a useful function by hunting wild pigs, but that would be a lot harder work than walking around the city with rifles intimidating unarmed people.

That would involve work and it would take away from their need to show off their penis extensions.

Why do you hate the Second Amendment?

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47 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 5:01:28pm

re: #45 jaunte

They could go out in the countryside and perform a useful function by hunting wild pigs, but that would be a lot harder work than walking around the city with rifles intimidating unarmed people.

Some inventor really needs to come up with a gun that looks like a two foot long dildo.

48 Lidane  May 30, 2014 5:01:46pm

re: #44 Skip Intro

Looks like these assholes will have to go somewhere else to wave their make believe dicks around.

Sonic And Chili’s Announce No-Gun Policies

How about Chick-fil-A?

huffingtonpost.com

I love how each of their attempts to make guns more acceptable ends up with guns being banned in the businesses they go to.

49 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 5:02:03pm

re: #35 Lidane

At National Review, Mark Steyn compared anti-Robertson activists to Soviet totalitarians: “Everything must be gayed. There must be Five-Year Gay Plans for American bakeries, and the Christian church, and reality TV.”

you see, we’ve already accomplished bob dylan’s socialist totalitarian five year plan that he announced in his little red book where he declared “everybody must get stoned”

comrades

50 jaunte  May 30, 2014 5:02:35pm

re: #47 EPR-radar

Some inventor really needs to come up with a gun that looks like a two foot long dildo.

51 Lidane  May 30, 2014 5:04:56pm
52 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 5:11:13pm

long ago in a universe far far far away…

Why is Daddy Sad on Sunday: A Coloring Book Depicting the Most Disappointing Moments in Cleveland Sports.

54 abolitionist  May 30, 2014 5:12:21pm

re: #47 EPR-radar

Some inventor really needs to come up with a gun that looks like a two foot long dildo.

Image: 1-3619-The-Dictator-17000-lbs.jpg

The Dictator might not qualify —looks more like a boob
/

55 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 5:13:55pm

Mr. Falcon does not like the post.

56 b.d.  May 30, 2014 5:15:12pm

As an aside, I really love Getty Images and love that they want people to use them now.

57 nines09  May 30, 2014 5:15:35pm

Furiously rebranding. Only they are going backwards. A vote for any GOP politician anywhere is a vote for the worst GOP politician everywhere. Grifters On Parade 2014.

58 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 5:16:18pm

So did the last years of the Whigs resemble this mess?

59 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:16:49pm

re: #43 Lidane

Yeah, I’ve seen those dipshits walking around. I saw some of them when I was leaving a happy hour mixer last week. They looked like complete tools with their guns strapped on and waving flags saying COME AND TAKE IT AUSTIN!.

Just hang out in the bars and restaurants with a TABC license and you’ll be fine. By law guns aren’t allowed in any TABC licensed business so those morons would get arrested trying to walk in the door and they know it.

Or take refuge at a gun show. All that I know require that weapons be locked out/disabled.

60 nines09  May 30, 2014 5:18:20pm

re: #58 Rightwingconspirator

So did the last years of the Whigs resemble this mess?

I found this interesting.

61 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:18:57pm

re: #50 jaunte

[Embedded image]

The ‘jungle-taped’ magazines are wrong. The mag that’s not locked is open-end-down for quick inversion into the well.

62 b.d.  May 30, 2014 5:19:00pm

Take advice about how to grow your party from those guys!

According to Nielsen estimates, the fifth season-ender of “Duck Dynasty” averaged a 2.5 rating in adults 18-49 and 6 million viewers overall.

///snip

But compared to the show’s third-season finale in April of last year, it was down roughly 28% in overall viewership (from 9.63 million) and an even bigger 40% in adults 18-49 (4.3 rating). Its fourth-season closer did a 3.5 demo rating and 8.4 million total viewers.

variety.com

63 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 5:19:12pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Mr. Falcon does not like the post.

Hanging out the kick me sign again, I see.

One awaits the explanation of how this Robertson jackass is not representative of the GOP when he was invited to speak at their event.

Or perhaps the argument is that Robertson is not a jackass.

64 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 5:21:08pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

Hanging out the kick me sign again, I see.

One awaits the explanation of how this Robertson jackass is not representative of the GOP when he was invited to speak at their event.

Or perhaps the argument is that Robertson is not a jackass.

The NEW GOP… All the deck chairs have been carefully rearranged, and ask about our “Extra Ice For Free” special at the “Nearer My God To Thee” dance this evening!!!!

RBS

65 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 5:21:37pm

re: #58 Rightwingconspirator

So did the last years of the Whigs resemble this mess?

not really

the whigs were an ill assorted group who were only really unified by being against andrew jackson and his heirs

the corporatist agenda of the republican party has two planets worth of cash behind it and might burst out of its wingnut host and try to impregnate itself into a more viable organism

66 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 5:22:40pm

re: #65 dog philosopher

not really

the whigs were an ill assorted group who were only really unified by being against andrew jackson and his heirs

the corporatist agenda of the republican party has two planets worth of cash behind it and might burst out of its wingnut host and try to impregnate itself into a more viable organism

Now I’m worried.

67 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 5:24:48pm

re: #60 nines09

I found this interesting.

Hah! Well done, thanks.

68 b.d.  May 30, 2014 5:26:12pm

re: #36 Lidane

Because if the GOP lacks anything, it’s religion:

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“Duck Dynasty” star: “You want to turn the Republican party around, get godly

When we started talking about God our ratings fell 40%, I’m pretty sure it will work for you though!

69 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 5:26:27pm

re: #65 dog philosopher

not really

the whigs were an ill assorted group who were only really unified by being against andrew jackson and his heirs

the corporatist agenda of the republican party has two planets worth of cash behind it and might burst out of its wingnut host and try to impregnate itself into a more viable organism

i.e., the Democratic party. That little project is going very well for the masters of the universe. I don’t forget that things like repeal of Glass-Stegall and NAFTA happened under Clinton’s watch.

70 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2014 5:26:29pm

He’s got some Nugent on his finger.

71 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 5:26:30pm

WATER!

I think Colorado sent it.

72 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 5:26:41pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

Hanging out the kick me sign again, I see.

One awaits the explanation of how this Robertson jackass is not representative of the GOP when he was invited to speak at their event.

Or perhaps the argument is that Robertson is not a jackass.

Not just a speaker at the event, the featured speaker. Hard to pretend he was just filler between the serious people.

73 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 30, 2014 5:28:13pm

Basic GOP policy seems to be “say something to annoy a liberal”, at which they show no end of creative energy.

74 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:28:22pm

re: #72 Skip Intro

Not just a speaker at the event, the featured speaker. Hard to pretend he was just filler between the serious people.

They should invite him to skin a ‘gator and juggle some snakes at CPAC.

75 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 5:29:12pm

re: #72 Skip Intro

Not just a speaker at the event, the featured speaker. Hard to pretend he was just filler between the serious people.

And down dinging an article because it is an unfavorable (and accurate) report on where the GOP stands these days really is lame and deserves the mockery it gets.

76 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 5:31:08pm

Florida man travels to Syria, blows himself up

77 bratwurst  May 30, 2014 5:31:38pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Mr. Falcon does not like the post.

I wonder if he is as upset with his party inviting a bigoted TV clown to be THE FEATURED SPEAKER at a leadership conference as he is with reportage of same.

78 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:32:01pm

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

Did he employ the infernal ‘cat bomb’?

79 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 5:32:33pm

re: #69 EPR-radar

i.e., the Democratic party. That little project is going very well for the masters of the universe. I don’t forget that things like repeal of Glass-Stegall and NAFTA happened under Clinton’s watch.

there’s still a choice as to precisely how much ky jelly will be applied

80 freetoken  May 30, 2014 5:34:15pm

re: #51 Lidane

“Sterling’s trust” illustrates another way in which our society has installed legal structures to preserve the social pecking against attempts to flatten society.

81 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 5:35:04pm

re: #79 dog philosopher

there’s still a choice as to precisely how much ky jelly will be applied

Vote for the Dem and get what used to be a moderate Republican. Vote for the Republican and get a frothing-at-the-mouth crazy who would embarrass the John Birch Society.

82 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 5:35:28pm

re: #79 dog philosopher

there’s still a choice as to precisely how much ky jelly will be applied

That why I like to describe the (R) vs. (D) choice as between “almost completely evil” and “markedly less evil”.

The first priority is to get the completely evil ones marginalized. If that ever happens, we can get to work on honest political issues like rolling back the oligarchy a bit.

83 Pie-onist Overlord  May 30, 2014 5:35:37pm

OK gotta go now.

84 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2014 5:36:08pm

The tea party, open carry groups are their own worst enemy. Where do I donate!?!!

85 jaunte  May 30, 2014 5:36:22pm

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

“No more cafecitos for you!”

86 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 5:36:31pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

The first priority is to get the completely evil ones marginalized

roger that!

87 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 5:37:48pm

I love this guy and I love hoppin’ john.

88 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 5:38:35pm

re: #80 freetoken

“Sterling’s trust” illustrates another way in which our society has installed legal structures to preserve the social pecking against attempts to flatten society.

I see Sterling is suing the NBA. I’ve read two theories about that.

The first is he wants them to pay any capital gains taxes he incurs on his roughly $2 billion dollar profit.

The second is that because he was forced to sell, he won’t owe any capital gain taxes, but he’s suing anyway because that’s just what he does.

89 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 5:38:54pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

That why I like to describe the (R) vs. (D) choice as between “almost completely evil” and “markedly less evil”.

The first priority is to get the completely evil ones marginalized. If that ever happens, we can get to work on honest political issues like rolling back the oligarchy a bit.

I was reading the NYT Book Review the other day and they were reviewing Geithner’s new bio. Geithner apparently started out as a Republican. I think you got it exactly right here. When you’re voting Dem, you’re voting for someone who would be a Rockefeller Republican in the past but when you vote Republican, you’re voting for someone who would be too nutty for the Birchers.

90 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 5:39:13pm

Heh. It’s non-stop. Greenwald is constantly being harassed by antisec chuckleheads even more extreme than he is.

91 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:40:05pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

That why I like to describe the (R) vs. (D) choice as between “almost completely evil” and “markedly less evil”.

The first priority is to get the completely evil ones marginalized. If that ever happens, we can get to work on honest political issues like rolling back the oligarchy a bit.

We want Utopia, and we want it NOW!!1!

92 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 5:41:03pm

republican party

yanno, i really have no objection to a party devoted to the interests of millionaires and very large corporations. none at all

it’s the lying and stirring up hate that bothers me

93 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 5:41:55pm

Really though, Phil Robertson basically sums up the modern GOP in a nutshell. A wealthy guy pretending to be a common man with tons of bigotry. I hope the Republicans are proud of themselves for inviting this bigoted kook to their summit.

94 klys  May 30, 2014 5:41:56pm

re: #92 dog philosopher

republican party

yanno, i really have no objection to a party devoted to the interests of millionaires and very large corporations. none at all

it’s the lying and stirring up hate that bothers me

You liberal progressive.

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95 b.d.  May 30, 2014 5:42:21pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

QUIT PROTECTING THE SECURITY STATE GLENN!

96 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:43:17pm

re: #94 klys

You liberal progressive.

//

He has lickspittle tendencies.

97 bratwurst  May 30, 2014 5:43:40pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

We want Utopia, and we want it NOW!!1!

As you wish:

Youtube Video

98 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 5:44:25pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

They should invite him to skin a ‘gator and juggle some snakes at CPAC.

And Sarah could field dress a moose, then they both could pass the raw meat to the crowd. I don’t think there are many venues in the country that could hold the audience that would come for that.

99 jaunte  May 30, 2014 5:44:39pm
We want one thing from you Glenn…transparency.

No matter what he releases now, it’ll never be enough.

100 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:44:48pm

re: #97 bratwurst

That’s nowhere, man.

101 Justanotherhuman  May 30, 2014 5:44:52pm

Shorter Robertson: Put some Jesus into your life and you won’t care about what trashy grifters my family and I really are.

Hey, it worked for Palin. She created the model.

102 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 5:45:36pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

BBL. My replacement tent pole came in today. Finally get to plan out some backpack trips.

Later Lizards!

What a nice surprise. I have a North Face 4-season tent I’ve had since high school (well over a decade now) and I broke one of the tent poles last summer. I went to the local mountaineer shop a couple of weeks ago and they sent the broken one back to North Face. North Face replaced the pole free of charge, including shipping. Made my day! :D

103 jonhendry  May 30, 2014 5:46:24pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

“Or take refuge at a gun show. All that I know require that weapons be locked out/disabled.”

Occasionally you hear about an accidental discharge at the entry gate.

104 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 5:46:34pm

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

Florida man travels to Syria, blows himself up

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why is it always “Florida Man” that does this kind of stuff?

105 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 5:46:57pm
106 wrenchwench  May 30, 2014 5:47:08pm

Youtube Video

Later, lizards.

107 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 5:47:16pm
108 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:47:43pm

re: #103 jonhendry

“Or take refuge at a gun show. All that I know require that weapons be locked out/disabled.”

Occasionally you hear about an accidental discharge at the entry gate.

That’s the patriot militiaman that forgot how to clear.

109 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 5:48:09pm

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

Florida man travels to Syria, blows himself up

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It’s the ones that return home that I worry about

110 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 5:48:41pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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I understand that he also rescues kittens that are stuck in trees (that he put them in first)

111 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 5:49:38pm

re: #104 RealityBasedSteve

why is it always “Florida Man” that does this kind of stuff?

Because citizen journalists can’t spell Massachusetts.

112 thedopefishlives  May 30, 2014 5:49:59pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Narcissist? Absolutely confirmed.

113 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 5:50:40pm

The fundy side of the Republican party would love to see things like mandatory Christian Protestant prayer in schools, the outlawing of Islam, the banning of books by Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, et al. Makes me sick that one-half of our political system is being hijacked by close-minded hateful morons.

114 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 5:50:45pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Video

Later, lizards.

OMG HILARIOUS

115 b.d.  May 30, 2014 5:51:32pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Now I can’t stop picturing Snowden and Putin having Kremlin shirtless pose off challenges.

Thanks a f*ckin lot Charles.

116 Lidane  May 30, 2014 5:51:43pm

re: #104 RealityBasedSteve

why is it always “Florida Man” that does this kind of stuff?

Texas Man is almost boring by comparison:

117 Lidane  May 30, 2014 5:53:41pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

Hahaha that’s amazing.

118 jaunte  May 30, 2014 5:53:49pm

re: #116 Lidane

“drugs are suspected”

There’s that understated Kiwi humor.

119 thedopefishlives  May 30, 2014 5:54:18pm

re: #115 b.d.

Now I can’t stop picturing Snowden and Putin having Kremlin shirtless pose off challenges.

Thanks a f*ckin lot Charles.

I’m surprised they didn’t sell tickets to that gun show.

120 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 5:55:00pm

re: #116 Lidane

From earlier today.

He was found naked too.

121 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 5:55:32pm

UGH! Brain bleach needed. Just ‘cause I was curious I went over to that slimy filth-pit known as Todd Kincannon’s Twitter feed. Just vile disgusting garbage through and through. Fucker thinks he’s funny, he’s just seethes with hate.

122 b.d.  May 30, 2014 5:56:35pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

I’m surprised they didn’t sell tickets to that gun show.

lol, talk about your arms race

123 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 5:57:33pm

re: #120 Skip Intro

From earlier today.

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He was found naked too.

He thought he was a Terminator sent to protect John Connor before Judgment Day.

124 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 5:57:51pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

All cats have that base-of-the-spine spot that sends them into uncontrollable weirdness when scratched.

125 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 5:58:38pm

re: #120 Skip Intro

From earlier today.

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re: #120 Skip Intro

From earlier today.

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He was found naked too.

He was found naked too.

Loser asshole. Did he do it on purpose?

Side of the road is probably one of the most frequent causes of death :(

The trooper: Skinner was a 13-year veteran of the state police and is survived by his mother, fiancée, and two children.

126 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:00:14pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Yeesh. Probably should have read the link before I flippantly joked about a crime involving the death of a police officer.

I apologize for poor taste, carry on.

127 thedopefishlives  May 30, 2014 6:01:06pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

He was found naked too.

Loser asshole. Did he do it on purpose?

Side of the road is probably one of the most frequent causes of death :(

The trooper: >Skinner was a 13-year veteran of the state police and is survived by his mother, fiancée, and two children.

A guy driving drunk crushed my brother-in-law’s cruiser. He was on desk duty for, what, a year? We were just thankful he survived; nothing else in his car (including his dash cam) did.

128 darthstar  May 30, 2014 6:01:21pm

Holy fucking shit, but Joni Ernst has no soul.

129 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:02:38pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

He was found naked too.

Loser asshole. Did he do it on purpose?

The cops think so.

130 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:04:42pm

re: #129 Skip Intro

The cops think so.

Hard to define ‘purpose’ with someone who tries a ‘time warp’ defense.

131 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 6:05:43pm

re: #128 darthstar

Holy fucking shit, but Joni Ernst has no soul.

Sold to the NRA a long time ago. NRA ideology presumably denies that anyone gets murdered by a killer using guns, so “accident” is the term of art.

A few years from now, the NRA will probably deny that anyone, anywhere is ever killed by another using a gun, the only exceptions being wartime and “good guy with a gun” slash fiction.

132 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:06:33pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

UGH! Brain bleach needed. Just ‘cause I was curious I went over to that slimy filth-pit known as Todd Kincannon’s Twitter feed. Just vile disgusting garbage through and through. Fucker thinks he’s funny, he’s just seethes with hate.

I just can’t do that any more. Seeing it here is bad, but going right to the sewer where it comes from is nauseating. Same thing goes for reading the comments at even legitimate sites; the crazies just never stop now.

133 darthstar  May 30, 2014 6:06:56pm

re: #131 EPR-radar

Sold to the NRA a long time ago. NRA ideology presumably denies that anyone gets murdered by a killer using guns, so “accident” is the term of art.

A few years from now, the NRA will probably deny that anyone, anywhere is ever killed by another using a gun, the only exceptions being wartime and “good guy with a gun” slash fiction.

Related:

134 thedopefishlives  May 30, 2014 6:07:20pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

I just can’t do that any more. Seeing it here is bad, but going right to the sewer where it comes from is nauseating. Same thing goes for reading the comments at even legitimate sites; the crazies just never stop now.

They’re getting emboldened by the Interwebs.

135 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:08:20pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

I just can’t do that any more. Seeing it here is bad, but going right to the sewer where it comes from is nauseating. Same thing goes for reading the comments at even legitimate sites; the crazies just never stop now.

“It’s good that they’re out in the open, it’s good that they’re out in the open, it’s good that they’re out in the open.”

136 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 6:08:22pm

It’s like every memorial freeway down here is for a cop that was hit on the side of the road.

Many years ago w/the ex, he had a step-van and we were taking it somewhere for storage or some work, I forget. Well of course it got a flat. We were on the side of the freeway. I was basically freaking out while he changed the tire. Felt like I was going to die any sec, just takes one driver looking away.

Or going through a time warp.

137 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:08:59pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Hard to define ‘purpose’ with someone who tries a ‘time warp’ defense.

Then there’s this guy.

The whole story is pretty sick, just like the “time warp” guy.

138 Lidane  May 30, 2014 6:09:57pm

re: #128 darthstar

Let’s review:

—Careful research on the guns he bought? Check.

—Filled out the paperwork & passed the background checks and waited for his allotted time to get his guns? Check.

—Long, self-important manifesto blaming women for his problems? Check.

—Killing the roommates so there wouldn’t be loose ends? Check.

—YouTube videos bragging about his plans? Check.

Yep. Sounds totally accidental to me.

139 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 6:10:37pm

re: #131 EPR-radar

Sold to the NRA a long time ago. NRA ideology presumably denies that anyone gets murdered by a killer using guns, so “accident” is the term of art.

A few years from now, the NRA will probably deny that anyone, anywhere is ever killed by another using a gun, the only exceptions being wartime and “good guy with a gun” slash fiction.

6-year-old-fatally-shoots-grandfather with assault rifle at family picnic

140 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 6:11:39pm
141 Lidane  May 30, 2014 6:12:08pm

re: #133 darthstar

It’s true. If Sandy Hook couldn’t change anything in our culture with respect to guns, nothing else will.

I’m just surprised there aren’t any stories yet about a sales uptick on the guns the UCSB shooter used.

142 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:12:23pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

Then there’s this guy.

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The whole story is pretty sick, just like the “time warp” guy.

Wild Irish Rose is a hell of a drug.

143 Floral Giraffe  May 30, 2014 6:14:35pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

Could you send it our way?
Pretty Please?

144 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 6:15:12pm
145 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:15:25pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Like in the old Batman TV show, POW! ZAP!

146 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:15:33pm

re: #139 Stanley Sea

6-year-old-fatally-shoots-grandfather with assault rifle at family picnic

However, Martinez, Jr. said, there is no one to blame for this tragic event. “The family is not trying to point the finger at anybody,” said Martinez, Jr. “This is a tragic event that occurred. We can’t say it was my fault, it was my nephew’s fault, it was my father’s fault. It’s just a tragic event that occurred. If there was anything I could do to bring him back, God help me I would,” said Martinez Jr.

Missed learning opportunity.

147 TedStriker  May 30, 2014 6:15:40pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Mr. Falcon does not like the post.

Of course not, because it shows that His Team is beholden to the batshit crazies, despite what Rinsed Pubis had said previously.

148 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:15:48pm

re: #134 thedopefishlives

They’re getting emboldened by the Interwebs.

Even worse, they’ve all found each other.

149 Lidane  May 30, 2014 6:16:53pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Starting with the question of why there was an assault rifle at a family picnic.

WTF.

150 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 6:17:04pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

Like in the old Batman TV show, POW! ZAP!

He’s been doing this dishonest stuff for years and people let him get away with it because he exploits and confirms their biases, and demonizes their enemies in the crudest possible ways.

151 thedopefishlives  May 30, 2014 6:17:05pm

re: #148 Skip Intro

Even worse, they’ve all found each other.

Good news is, they’re all too afraid of the world outside to leave their moms’ basements and breed.

152 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:17:56pm

re: #149 Lidane

Starting with the question of why there was an assault rifle at a family picnic.

WTF.

To protect the booze and cocaine.

153 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 6:18:16pm

re: #152 Decatur Deb

To protect the booze and cocaine.

From the black people.

154 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 6:18:22pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

My surprise, let me show you it.

But this is the reality. Right there, in your face. I can understand why it upsets DF.

155 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:19:21pm

re: #139 Stanley Sea

6-year-old-fatally-shoots-grandfather with assault rifle at family picnic

According to police, there were people drinking and doing drugs at the home.

Oh good, Drugs, alcohol, a loaded weapon, and a group of morons. What a surprise someone got killed.

Florida again, too.

156 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 6:19:24pm

re: #152 Decatur Deb

To protect the booze and cocaine.

hookers

you forgot the hookers

157 thedopefishlives  May 30, 2014 6:19:59pm

re: #155 Skip Intro

Oh good, Drugs, alcohol, a loaded weapon, and a group of morons. What a surprise someone got killed.

Florida again, too.

As the saying goes, “What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!”

158 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:20:58pm

re: #155 Skip Intro

Oh good, Drugs, alcohol, a loaded weapon, and a group of morons. What a surprise someone got killed.

Florida again, too.

It was the video games.

159 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 6:20:59pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

However, Martinez, Jr. said, there is no one to blame for this tragic event. “The family is not trying to point the finger at anybody,” said Martinez, Jr. “This is a tragic event that occurred. We can’t say it was my fault, it was my nephew’s fault, it was my father’s fault. It’s just a tragic event that occurred. If there was anything I could do to bring him back, God help me I would,” said Martinez Jr.

Missed learning opportunity.

I’m sure that the denial mechanism of “There is nobody to blame, it’s just a tragic event that occurred” helps him to cope, but at some point reality will start to worm its way past the defenses. A tragic event is what happened in Washington state, where an entire hillside broke loose and destroyed a neighbor hood killing I don’t know how many. That’s a tragic event.

RBS

160 The Ghost of a Flea  May 30, 2014 6:21:31pm
He rejected the secular society created by Supreme Court decisions he interpreted as an attack on religion.

“We threw God out of the schools. We threw God out of the courthouses,” Robertson said, in a speech that featured quotes from several Founding Fathers, including George Washington, John Adams, and James Madison.

“Separation of church and state? I’m telling you right [now] what our Founding Fathers said and it doesn’t sound like separating God Almighty from the United States of America. It’s a lie. You remove the Bible out of schools, it was said more 200 years ago, and you are going to be wasting so much time punishing criminals. Education is useless without the Bible. Take the Bible out of schools and there’s going to be an explosion of crime.”

Just a reminder that one of our two major political parties has opened itself up to organizations and individuals that want to mutilate civil liberties and the Constitution…just like how they’ve mutilated the Bible.

Fiscal conservatives: run.

No seriously, these are not the allies you want. You think corruption is bad? Government waste is bad? Federal power is too concentrated?

How about the cost of implementing the nation these fanatics want.

All of the things they want criminalized that will require both monitoring and enforcement. All of the militarism they support because they’re envisioning a soon-arriving Apocalypse, plus a hunger for a final conflict versus Islam. All of the unvetted organizations that they want to subsidize with no oversight because they’re the said brand of Real, True Christianity.

These people are on a mission, and that mission is not fiscal prudence. When they say “small government” they don’t mean it: the government is only “big” in that it doesn’t let them do what they want to other citizens.

They are getting more power, and are experimenting with new ways to take shit away from everybody else.

161 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:22:20pm

re: #159 RealityBasedSteve

I’m sure that the denial mechanism of “There is nobody to blame, it’s just a tragic event that occurred” helps him to cope, but at some point reality will start to worm its way past the defenses. A tragic event is what happened in Washington state, where an entire hillside broke loose and destroyed a neighbor hood killing I don’t know how many. That’s a tragic event.

RBS

A good lawyer can convince a bad jury ‘They’ve been punished enough”.

162 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 6:23:07pm

re: #159 RealityBasedSteve

I’m sure that the denial mechanism of “There is nobody to blame, it’s just a tragic event that occurred” helps him to cope, but at some point reality will start to worm its way past the defenses. A tragic event is what happened in Washington state, where an entire hillside broke loose and destroyed a neighbor hood killing I don’t know how many. That’s a tragic event.

RBS

Why the hell was the rifle loaded? If you’re going to show off the penis substitute at a family picnic, isn’t it like really basic to make sure the damn thing isn’t loaded?

I could be missing something here, since I am no Gun Expert (TM), but really.

163 The Ghost of a Flea  May 30, 2014 6:24:45pm

I mean, the “fiscal conservatives” of the GOP are also ripping you off, but they’re not openly planning a fascist state.

They’re just maintaining a spoils system.

164 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:24:52pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Man, linking to a post from 2006, entitled “Leftist Lie Of The Day.”

I just think that’s funny. In those days you appeared on Drudge’s radio show and were cited approvingly by people who call you a fascist today.

In those days I would read LGF for a decidedly conservative point of view. Every commenter I can think of in those days, besides a select few (all shall be unnamed by me) are all banned.

Hell, even Pamela Geller was a frequent commenter at LGF for a time.

Why I like this site: Charles is strong in his convictions, but he is also able to think about things and change his mind, based on evidence and logic.

LGF Pride Bitchez!

Lizard Pride

165 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:25:56pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

Why the hell was the rifle loaded? If you’re going to show off the penis substitute at a family picnic, isn’t it like really basic to make sure the damn thing isn’t loaded?

I could be missing something here, since I am no Gun Expert (TM), but really.

What good is an unloaded weapon against Tyrants?

166 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 6:26:28pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

However, Martinez, Jr. said, there is no one to blame for this tragic event. “The family is not trying to point the finger at anybody,” said Martinez, Jr. “This is a tragic event that occurred. We can’t say it was my fault, it was my nephew’s fault, it was my father’s fault. It’s just a tragic event that occurred. If there was anything I could do to bring him back, God help me I would,” said Martinez Jr.

Missed learning opportunity.

Clueless gun owner. With a dead family member.

Are there more gun owners who are clueless about safety v. ones that do?

Wonder if the numbers are equaling.

167 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 6:27:55pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Clueless gun owner. With a dead family member.

Are there more gun owners who are clueless about safety v. ones that do?

Wonder if the numbers are equaling.

As noted here the other day, SYG in public vs. open carry is a bloodbath waiting to happen.

168 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:29:32pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

And that was back in the day when it was hard to get an LGF account. I don’t know how easy it is these days, as I’ve been able to have an account (with one knock on my forehead with Stinky’s banning stick before being graciously let back in) since just after Obama’s election in 2008. Before that, I would get on LGF almost every day and the first thing I would do is click on Register and it was always closed!

Been reading the joint since 2004, after I heard Charles on the radio talking about doctored Reuters photos in Gaza.

169 Lidane  May 30, 2014 6:29:54pm
170 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 6:30:58pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Clueless gun owner. With a dead family member.

Are there more gun owners who are clueless about safety v. ones that do?

Wonder if the numbers are equaling.

Since he thinks of this in the passive voice, I doubt Mr Martinez Jr. is any closer to a clue.

171 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:31:10pm

re: #160 The Ghost of a Flea

When was the bible taken out of the schools? Was it before the 1930s, because there sure was a whole lot of killing happening back then. I think there was even a term for it: Murder Incorporated.

Of course now we just call it the NRA.

172 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 6:33:52pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

When was the bible taken out of the schools? Was it before the 1930s, because there sure was a whole lot of killing happening back then. I think there was even a term for it: Murder Incorporated.

Of course now we just call it the NRA.

Biblical principles were so very helpful in dealing with US politics in the 1800s.

For example, on the question of slavery most denominations obligingly split on the issue so that both sides could claim to have God on their side.

173 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:34:43pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Clueless gun owner. With a dead family member.

Are there more gun owners who are clueless about safety v. ones that do?

Wonder if the numbers are equaling.

We’ll never know because it’s easier to buy a gun than a new car or a house , and when you do either of those things the seller knows all there is to know about you by the time you’re done.

174 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:36:35pm

A great couple of books about just how fucked up Florida can be are the collected newspaper columns of Carl Hiassen. “Kick-Ass” is the first volume. My favorite is the second volume, entitled “Paradise Screwed.” Reading some of this stuff just absolutely made my jaw drop.

175 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 6:37:13pm

re: #172 EPR-radar

Biblical principles were so very helpful in dealing with US politics in the 1800s.

They worked very well during the conquest of the New World too, where there was always a priest on hand to make sure the native peoples were murdered in a most Christian fashion.

176 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:40:31pm

How many members are there in Lynryd Skynyrd?

177 The Ghost of a Flea  May 30, 2014 6:42:33pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

When was the bible taken out of the schools? Was it before the 1930s, because there sure was a whole lot of killing happening back then. I think there was even a term for it: Murder Incorporated.

Of course now we just call it the NRA.

Dude, every thing that’s said, whether it’s about history, or religion, or psychology, or world events…none of it has to do with facts.

It’s about a Higher Truth that justifies lying. And the Higher Truth is that they have exclusive knowledge of What God Wants.

They want the woods to be full of monsters, so there are.

The Bible doesn’t tell them this, so they re-write the Bible.

Not everyone agrees, so obviously those that don’t agree must be malefic monsters that have to be stopped.

178 darthstar  May 30, 2014 6:44:59pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

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You magically went back to 2006 and added twitter links.

179 darthstar  May 30, 2014 6:46:30pm

Watching the MSNBC broadcast of the Williams/Snowden interview right now. Eddie comes across as an arrogant little prick. GG’s brief appearance out-dicks him.

180 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 6:47:36pm
181 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2014 6:47:50pm

hmmm…

Related to this:
Manchin says he was misled into participating in ‘propaganda’ film on mine safety

182 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 6:48:46pm

Stop and savor the irony of Mona Holland accusing someone else of “obsessing” over the Mighty Greenwald. This has been the sole focus of her life for years.

183 jaunte  May 30, 2014 6:48:54pm

Ommmmm
isssion!

184 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 6:50:16pm

re: #178 darthstar

You magically went back to 2006 and added twitter links.

HAHAHA! 135 link visits so far!

185 jaunte  May 30, 2014 6:50:22pm

GG, profiting more than most from the Snowden leaks.

186 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 6:52:15pm

re: #178 darthstar

You magically went back to 2006 and added twitter links.

Charles is a Jazz Musician. His mastery of time allows him to do things like that. Even The Doctor comes to him for advice.

RBS

187 Mattand  May 30, 2014 6:52:27pm

re: #160 The Ghost of a Flea

Just a reminder that one of our two major political parties has opened itself up to organizations and individuals that want to mutilate civil liberties and the Constitution…just like how they’ve mutilated the Bible.

Fiscal conservatives: run.

No seriously, these are not the allies you want. You think corruption is bad? Government waste is bad? Federal power is too concentrated?

How about the cost of implementing the nation these fanatics want.

All of the things they want criminalized that will require both monitoring and enforcement. All of the militarism they support because they’re envisioning a soon-arriving Apocalypse, plus a hunger for a final conflict versus Islam. All of the unvetted organizations that they want to subsidize with no oversight because they’re the said brand of Real, True Christianity.

These people are on a mission, and that mission is not fiscal prudence. When they say “small government” they don’t mean it: the government is only “big” in that it doesn’t let them do what they want to other citizens.

They are getting more power, and are experimenting with new ways to take shit away from everybody else.

I’m the sure resident conservatives here will give a thoughtful, reasoned argument why they still support the Republican party, despite the obvious drift towards religious fanaticism.

Ha! Just kidding!

188 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 6:55:31pm

re: #187 Mattand

I’m the sure resident conservatives here will give a thoughtful, reasoned argument why they still support the Republican party, despite the obvious drift towards religious fanaticism.

Ha! Just kidding!

A few down dings and a hasty retreat is more like it.

What the hell is so hard about switching parties to vote against willful stupidity + evil?

189 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 6:55:37pm

Youtube Video

I work all day at the factory
I’m building a machine that’s not for me
There must be a reason that I can’t see
You’ve got to humanise yourself

Billy’s joined the National Front
He always was (just) a little runt
He’s got his hand in the air with the other c*nts
You’ve got to humanise yourself

190 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 6:59:09pm

And away we go wheeeeeee!

191 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 6:59:34pm

haha, they’re in the floor cleaner isle.

192 Mattand  May 30, 2014 7:04:29pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

A few down dings and a hasty retreat is more like it.

What the hell is so hard about switching parties to vote against willful stupidity + evil?

Hell, you don’t even have to switch. Just sit a few out.

I just can’t wrap my head around the denial about where the GOP has gone, and keeps going. The party is really pushing some truly horrendous positions that are basically rooted in bigotry.

You’re either spending a tremendous amount of mental willpower to pretend this shit isn’t a problem, or you’re cool with things like institutional misogyny and bigotry.

193 Skip Intro  May 30, 2014 7:08:31pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

You never know where Tyrants will be hiding.

194 Sionainn  May 30, 2014 7:11:13pm

[redacted]

195 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 7:11:30pm

re: #192 Mattand

Hell, you don’t even have to switch. Just sit a few out.

I just can’t wrap my head around the denial about where the GOP has gone, and keeps going. The party is really pushing some truly horrendous positions that are basically rooted in bigotry.

You’re either spending a tremendous amount of mental willpower to pretend this shit isn’t a problem, or you’re cool with things like institutional misogyny and bigotry.

Another possibility is that one somehow remains convinced that the Democrats are worse.

Unfortunately for GOP apologists, this is at least as delusional as the other two.

196 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 7:13:12pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

And away we go wheeeeeee!

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Open carry fucks! We know already, your pricks are inadequate so you have to compensate. Compensate on a gun range and not in restaurants and Home Depots you piddly fucks!

197 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 7:14:25pm

It’s really unfortunate and heart-breaking that the GOP has been taken over by cavemen. But there it is.

The question is, what now?

198 RealityBasedSteve  May 30, 2014 7:14:29pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

And away we go wheeeeeee!

[Embedded content]

I’m sorry, but unless you’re an old blues musician called something like “Lonesome Jake” you have no right to wear a fedora style hat in public.

RBS

199 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 7:15:32pm

re: #43 Lidane

Yeah, I’ve seen those dipshits walking around. I saw some of them when I was leaving a happy hour mixer last week. They looked like complete tools with their guns strapped on and waving flags saying COME AND TAKE IT AUSTIN!.

Just hang out in the bars and restaurants with a TABC license and you’ll be fine. By law guns aren’t allowed in any TABC licensed business so those morons would get arrested trying to walk in the door and they know it.

Wow. So Texas actually doesn’t allow guns in places where alcohol is served? They’re more progressive than Georgia in this respect.

200 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 7:16:07pm

re: #194 Sionainn

There’s a resemblance, but it’s blurry and impossible to say for sure, based solely on this picture.

201 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 7:16:44pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

It’s really unfortunate and heart-breaking that the GOP has been taken over by cavemen. But there it is.

The question is, what now?

A huge electoral defeat a la Barry Goldwater?

202 Sionainn  May 30, 2014 7:17:24pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

There’s a resemblance, but it’s blurry and impossible to say for sure, based solely on this picture.

I decided to remove it because I can’t verify that this is actually a true story.

203 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 7:17:49pm

Police: Chicago teacher killed in gang crossfire

A Chicago public school teacher was fatally shot at her second job at a real estate office in what police say was an exchange of gunfire between two groups of alleged gang members.

Police said the gunfire appeared to stem from a gang conflict. Family members said a bullet came through a wall and struck her in the head.

Howard, 58, would travel to homes to teach disabled students, doing whatever it took to help some of the city’s most challenged youth, Brooks Principal D’Andre Weaver said.

If this story involved rich white people there would be round the clock coverage for weeks.

204 Romantic Heretic  May 30, 2014 7:18:16pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

Alas it seems impossible for the GOP to suffer the kind of 45+ state blowout in a presidential election that would give GOP reform the kick in the ass it desperately needs.

I think it more likely they’ll purge the impure and double down on the craziness.

205 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 7:18:39pm

HUH?!?

206 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 7:19:46pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

It’s really unfortunate and heart-breaking that the GOP has been taken over by cavemen. But there it is.

The question is, what now?

Move on, look elsewhere for good ideas, support and encourage moderates when possible.

207 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 7:21:42pm

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Police: Chicago teacher killed in gang crossfire

If this story involved rich white people there would be round the clock coverage for weeks.

Freep will cover it, with ‘union thug’ and ‘Amish’ tags.

208 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 7:22:31pm

re: #205 teleskiguy

What kind of self-respecting all-American college Republicans would go to a soiree? That’s French. Knowing how to spell it is already unpatriotic, and actually going is a sign of latent homosexuality.

209 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 7:22:47pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

Freep will cover it, with ‘union thug’ and ‘Amish’ tags.

Why Amish?

210 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 7:22:59pm

I interrupt this thread for an EXCLUSIVE BOMBSHELL map of the world provided by vox . com.

An American Football World Bias

211 calochortus  May 30, 2014 7:24:45pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Why Amish?

I think it’s some sort of shorthand for the idea that it’s a good idea to profile people because otherwise you end up wasting your time doing background checks on the Amish instead of the obvious dangers: people of color and folks with the wrong religion.

212 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 7:24:50pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

It’s really unfortunate and heart-breaking that the GOP has been taken over by cavemen. But there it is.

The question is, what now?

The GOP was cavemen since TR, they just dressed and spelled better.

213 Decatur Deb  May 30, 2014 7:25:58pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Why Amish?

It’s their ironic code for Blacks as a group when drooling over violence.

214 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 7:26:15pm

re: #211 calochortus

I think it’s some sort of shorthand for the idea that it’s a good idea to profile people because otherwise you end up wasting your time doing background checks on the Amish instead of the obvious dangers: people of color and folks with the wrong religion.

ah, ok

215 Gus  May 30, 2014 7:39:08pm

216 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 7:39:12pm

cold beer

Youtube Video

217 Gus  May 30, 2014 7:39:37pm

218 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 7:41:52pm

re: #216 Killgore Trout

cold beer

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The original
Youtube Video

219 Gus  May 30, 2014 7:42:15pm

220 Charles Johnson  May 30, 2014 7:45:45pm

re: #217 Gus

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Paranormal: The Greenwald Nightmare

221 jaunte  May 30, 2014 7:52:38pm

Live long and prosper.

222 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 7:55:48pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

Wow. So Texas actually doesn’t allow guns in places where alcohol is served? They’re more progressive than Georgia in this respect.

One has to believe that even in GA the inevitably disastrous results of MOAR GUNZ in bars will penetrate the solid bone the nitwits in the GA statehouse use for their ‘thinking’ and steps will be taken.

20-30 years should suffice for this.

223 Kragar  May 30, 2014 8:03:06pm

I thought they hated the Taliban?

Oh wait, is that that fake hillbilly with the duck bullshit?

224 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 8:03:35pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

It’s really unfortunate and heart-breaking that the GOP has been taken over by cavemen. But there it is.

The question is, what now?

Best option-
Now? The GOP thrashes about like a dying fish on the sand. Later, the moderates pick up and move on relatively unobstructed by the then marginalized extremists.

Worst option, decades of gridlock.

225 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 8:09:19pm

re: #224 Rightwingconspirator

Best option-
Now? The GOP thrashes about like a dying fish on the sand. Later, the moderates pick up and move on relatively unobstructed by the then marginalized extremists.

Worst option, decades of gridlock.

The GOP has been out of power for a while now. Since they’ve been powerless to do anything they could afford to be crazy. But they’re poised to take congress and I’m sure most of their efforts are going to be making life hard for Obama. But, there are presidential elections coming up. They are going to have to behave somewhat responsibly if they want a chance at retaking the White House. Along with the expected obstructionism I hope we’ll start to see some responsible policy ideas.

226 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 8:12:27pm
227 Single-handed sailor  May 30, 2014 8:13:02pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

LOL, Republicans behave responsibly?

228 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 8:14:17pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

I don’t think it will work that fast. This big a shift to the right won’t change short of a big epig defeat. Really huge. Knock out blow kinda hit like the Dems took with McGovern.

229 nines09  May 30, 2014 8:16:57pm

DO YOU REALIZE HOW TIGHT I HAVE THIS CRANKED ONTO MY EMPTY SKULL??!!!

Think of the next speaker who has to get close to the mics after Mr Natural and His Incredible Garden of Lost Food leaves.

230 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 8:18:33pm

I’m surprised no one has yet brought up Robertson’s pose resembling this guy.
Fidelito viejo

Fidel has mellowed out in his old age. This one is from his 1979 visit to the UN.
Fidelito mas joven Photo source: New York Daily News

231 Killgore Trout  May 30, 2014 8:19:19pm

re: #228 Rightwingconspirator

I don’t think it will work that fast. This big a shift to the right won’t change short of a big epig defeat. Really huge. Knock out blow kinda hit like the Dems took with McGovern.

Maybe not but remember these political parties are not completely organic and running on instinct. I have no doubt political strategists have been working for years and waiting for the Tea Party thing to blow over so they can get back to real world business. It’ll happen sooner or later.

232 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 8:19:32pm

OK. If you click on Tweets and Replies on your personal Twitter page, it does condense it and the font size is uniform throughout. That’s what I’m seeing.

233 Interesting Times  May 30, 2014 8:19:48pm

re: #228 Rightwingconspirator

I don’t think it will work that fast. This big a shift to the right won’t change short of a big epig defeat. Really huge. Knock out blow kinda hit like the Dems took with McGovern.

The GOP may very well be content to sacrifice the presidency since gerrymandering lets them sabotage and obstruct to their heart’s content (to say nothing of implementing as extreme an agenda as they want at the state/local levels).

234 Gus  May 30, 2014 8:21:52pm

235 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 8:23:16pm

re: #233 Interesting Times

The GOP may very well be content to sacrifice the presidency since gerrymandering lets them sabotage and obstruct to their heart’s content (to say nothing of implementing as extreme an agenda as they want at the state/local levels).

I’m having a hard time imagining how the GOP can recapture the presidency with the current crop of possible candidates. None have much appeal outside their TPGOP/godbotherer base.

236 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 8:25:30pm

Incidentally, today (5/31) is the fourth anniversary of my becoming an LGF member.

Oh, I’m on the other side of the International Date Line, you know.

237 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 8:27:39pm

When Neil Hamburger takes to Twitter, it’s no-holds-barred! It’s also kind of annoying when he dumps 50 tweets of people sharing their food sickness stories with Taco Bell.

239 Gus  May 30, 2014 8:33:24pm
240 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 8:42:49pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

And away we go wheeeeeee!

so if this is how @HomeDepot thinks it’s aisles should be filled I’ll be staying out of them pic.twitter.com #GrillsNotGuns

The taller dude with the sportin’ hat on the left was in another image the other day wasn’t he? Seems familiar.

241 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 8:44:00pm

re: #212 Decatur Deb

The GOP was cavemen since TR, they just dressed and spelled better.

What’s new and worse about this GOP is that they’ve formed a coalition of various kinds of bigots. The party of plutocracy didn’t used to be this evil.

242 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 8:44:00pm

“Crawford!” indeed! Corey Crawford comes through with some big saves to stop the LA Kings final push of Game 6, allowing the Chicago Blackhawks to hang on for a 4-3 win. The Western Conference finals are now tied 3-3, setting up Game 7 in Chicago on Sunday night. The winner plays the New york Rangers for the Stanley Cup.

Go Hawks!

243 Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2014 8:44:16pm

Friday night flow dynamics experiment.

Coronarita

Liquid Physics

244 Gus  May 30, 2014 8:45:34pm
245 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 8:46:11pm

Evening lizards!

I just watched a spectacular hockey game. What’s new?

246 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 8:46:47pm

re: #215 Gus

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Nice work Gus. Alfred E. Snowden.

“What…me worry?”

247 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 8:47:30pm

re: #228 Rightwingconspirator

I don’t think it will work that fast. This big a shift to the right won’t change short of a big epig defeat. Really huge. Knock out blow kinda hit like the Dems took with McGovern.

Which is basically impossible these days. Adolph Hitler running as a Republican for president would get at least 5-10 red states.

248 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 8:49:54pm

re: #247 EPR-radar

Which is basically impossible these days. Adolph Hitler running as a Republican for president would get at least 5-10 red states.

Yeah but on the other hand Mao Tse-Tung could win the same number of blue states. Polorization kinda sucks, don’t it?

249 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 8:50:16pm

re: #247 EPR-radar

Which is basically impossible these days. Adolph Hitler running as a Republican for president would get at least 5-10 red states.

That actually gets me thinking that this is kind of getting at the heart of the problem for the GOP. Their base is just big enough in elections to convince them that their ideology isn’t the problem. I really don’t think we’re going to see a repeat of Goldwater in ‘64, McGovern in ‘72, or Mondale in ‘84 any time soon. Way I figure it. A GOP presidential candidate even an extremely kooky one is going to get at least 45% of the popular vote and win at least 10 states.

250 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 8:50:27pm

re: #234 Gus

This has genuinely freaked me out. I am traumatized. Sleeping tonight could prove to be a challenge. Gus, you’re a madman!

251 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 8:51:25pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Yeah but on the other hand Mao Tse-Tung could win the same number of blue states. Polorization kinda sucks, don’t it?

Sure does, especially since the GOP is much closer to fascism than the Democrats are to communism.

252 GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2014 8:52:09pm

Hawks. That is all.

253 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 8:53:07pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

That actually gets me thinking that this is kind of getting at the heart of the problem for the GOP. Their base is just big enough in elections to convince them that their ideology isn’t the problem. I really don’t think we’re going to see a repeat of Goldwater in ‘64, McGovern in ‘72, or Mondale in ‘84 any time soon. Way I figure it. A GOP presidential candidate even an extremely kooky one is going to get at least 45% of the popular vote and win at least 10 states.

The GOP can and will win the presidency with a kook candidate if they are persistent enough. Sooner or later the Democrats will stumble.

254 HappyWarrior  May 30, 2014 8:54:23pm

re: #253 EPR-radar

The GOP can and will win the presidency with a kook candidate if they are persistent enough. Sooner or later the Democrats will stumble.

For sure. The Dems have been extremely fortunate that Obama and his campaign staff are savvy people. I’m still amazed to this day that Bush won re-election. I mean I get that Kerry had his flaws. Don’t want to rehash it but it still stumps me ten years later.

255 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 8:54:57pm

re: #252 GlutenFreeJesus

Hawks. That is all.

The other night I said they would win the next 2 to take the series.

One down, one to go.

256 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 8:55:13pm

And from Florida we have this shooting case. Different from some others because the shooter is black . “He’s being charged because of racism” some will think, but read the article because this guy pursued a group of would thieves, initially died shooting one of them, and hid his gun instead of turning it over to police. No, this fellow did things that George Zimmerman and Marissa Alexander did not do and I think he’s liable to get prison time for them.

So read the article for a look at how not to defend your business.

257 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 9:00:39pm
258 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 9:01:14pm

re: #255 NJDhockeyfan

The other night I said they would win the next 2 to take the series.

One down, one to go.

They showed real poise in stopping the Kings momentum after LA scored two quick goals to take the lead in the 3rd period. When that happened in Games 2 and 4 the Blackhawks came apart, but this time they stayed calm and answered with two goals of their own from Duncan Keith and Patrick Kane.

259 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 9:03:02pm
260 Kragar  May 30, 2014 9:08:10pm

re: #257 NJDhockeyfan

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So GG is angry about sites like this?

No Place to Hide - the torrent and now the pdf

261 NJDhockeyfan  May 30, 2014 9:11:54pm
262 Lidane  May 30, 2014 9:16:33pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

I want all these open carry fuckwits to explain to me how a gun like that is supposed to help you if you’re attacked by someone. What are you going to do, open fire on the guy if he sucker punches you? What guarantee do you have that his body will stop the bullet and that you won’t hit someone else that’s just minding their own business?

God these assholes are insufferable. And I hope Home Depot bans guns just to spite them.

263 Lidane  May 30, 2014 9:18:13pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

It’s really unfortunate and heart-breaking that the GOP has been taken over by cavemen. But there it is.

The question is, what now?

We hope that they nominate a balls out, Grade A, turbocharged True Believer for POTUS that runs an openly far-right campaign in the general without pandering to the middle.

Let’s see how people react to pure, uncensored fuckery from the GOP.

264 gwangung  May 30, 2014 9:19:32pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Yeah but on the other hand Mao Tse-Tung could win the same number of blue states. Polorization kinda sucks, don’t it?

Don’t be idiotic.

Remember, those states that’d go that way have lots of Chinese immigrants.

265 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 9:21:19pm

re: #263 Lidane

We hope that they nominate a balls out, Grade A, turbocharged True Believer for POTUS that runs an openly far-right campaign in the general without pandering to the middle.

Let’s see how people react to pure, uncensored fuckery from the GOP.

Against a competent (D) candidate, such a GOP kook (e.g., Bachmann level) will probably get 45% of the popular vote and 100+ electoral votes.

If the (D) candidate stumbles (real or media-manufactured), a GOP kook could win.

266 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 9:24:32pm

re: #262 Lidane

I want all these open carry fuckwits to explain to me how a gun like that is supposed to help you if you’re attacked by someone. What are you going to do, open fire on the guy if he sucker punches you? What guarantee do you have that his body will stop the bullet and that you won’t hit someone else that’s just minding their own business?

God these assholes are insufferable. And I hope Home Depot bans guns just to spite them.

What happens when these jackasses see other people, especially darker-skinned people, also armed at Home Depot and perhaps giving them the stink eye?

Perhaps it would improve things if letting one’s dick hang out through the fly was no longer regarded as indecent exposure?

267 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 9:26:38pm

re: #264 gwangung

Don’t be idiotic.

Remember, those states that’d go that way have lots of Chinese immigrants.

Mao benefited from having a less appealing alternative — Chiang Kaishek — as a ruler of a new China. Mao succeeded in winning over the poor, rural population to his side; Chiang was less successful in getting a wide base to his side.

A large army supporting Mao kinda helped, too.

268 gwangung  May 30, 2014 9:31:37pm

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi

Mao benefited from having a less appealing alternative — Chiang Kaishek — as a ruler of a new China. Mao succeeded in winning over the poor, rural population to his side; Chiang was less successful in getting a wide base to his side.

A large army supporting Mao kinda helped, too.

And generally, it was the richer, urban population that made it over to the US and had kids. (either directly or through Taiwan). Mao was not a good name for at least a generation of Chinese Americans.

Oh, man, was it a bad name in certain parts of Californian communities…

269 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 9:39:29pm

I found the image I thought I had seen before of Mr. Open Carry Gun in a Store Guy. Did a Google search for “Open Carry in Store” and boom. This was posted around here the other day, it may have been in a tweet. I saw another small image of this guy at even another store at a check out.

Open Carry In Store

270 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 9:39:35pm

re: #268 gwangung

And generally, it was the richer, urban population that made it over to the US and had kids. (either directly or through Taiwan). Mao was not a good name for at least a generation of Chinese Americans.

Oh, man, was it a bad name in certain parts of Californian communities…

And nowadays poorer Chinese folks are once again coming to America.

(The piece is not-anti-immigrant and is in fact highly positive, so please do give it a chance.)

271 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 9:42:05pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

I found the image I thought I had seen before of Mr. Open Carry Gun in a Store Guy. Did a Google search for “Open Carry in Store” and boom. This was posted around here the other day, it may have been in a tweet. I saw another small image of this guy at even another store at a check out.

Open Carry In Store</blockquoteu>

I guess I feel safer, it’s only 2 of em. In Texas, right?

272 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 9:42:14pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Please proceed Mr. Open Carry douchebag. I would like to see the second amendment repealed, and your stupid antics are doing more to make that possible than anything I could ever do.

273 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 9:42:35pm

Oh another thing about the guy with gun in the store. They have some kind of a protest going, so all these images are probably coming from some kind of group. Maybe that has already been discussed and I missed it.

Later…shut down time. Bzzzz…zzz…sputter..click.

274 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 9:42:50pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

And nowadays poorer Chinese folks are once again coming to America.

(The piece is not-anti-immigrant and is in fact highly positive, so please do give it a chance.)

If they can get here, we welcome them.

275 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 9:42:52pm

re: #262 Lidane

I want all these open carry fuckwits to explain to me how a gun like that is supposed to help you if you’re attacked by someone. What are you going to do, open fire on the guy if he sucker punches you? What guarantee do you have that his body will stop the bullet and that you won’t hit someone else that’s just minding their own business?

God these assholes are insufferable. And I hope Home Depot bans guns just to spite them.

This. Again and again. It really is an insecurity thing on a perverse, deep psychological level.

276 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 9:45:03pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

I found the image I thought I had seen before of Mr. Open Carry Gun in a Store Guy. Did a Google search for “Open Carry in Store” and boom. This was posted around here the other day, it may have been in a tweet. I saw another small image of this guy at even another store at a check out.

Open Carry In Store

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ?!?!?!?

What goes through the minds of these fucktards that they need to carry their biggest gun into a grocery store, get photographed, and be proud of it?

FUCK

277 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 9:45:52pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

I found the image I thought I had seen before of Mr. Open Carry Gun in a Store Guy. Did a Google search for “Open Carry in Store” and boom. This was posted around here the other day, it may have been in a tweet. I saw another small image of this guy at even another store at a check out.

Open Carry In Store

That’s inside a Safeway-owned store (I know because the late Chicago-area Dominick’s chain was owned by Safeway). Why anyone would feel the need to carry a Kalashnikov while grocery shopping in beyond me. A pistol I can understand, but an AK in such a situation is nothing more than obnoxious pose-striking.

278 ObserverArt  May 30, 2014 9:46:13pm

re: #271 Stanley Sea

Saw this before I got outta here. I still had the Google page up…and the image came from this bloggy.

Open Carry Group Sues Arlington Over the First Amendment

279 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 9:46:34pm

re: #276 teleskiguy

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ?!?!?!?

What goes through the minds of these fucktards that they need to carry their biggest gun into a grocery story, get photographed, and be proud of it?

FUCK

The Ghostbusters line seems to fit here:

“It’s true, Your Honor. The man has no dick.”

280 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 9:47:59pm

re: #278 ObserverArt

Saw this before I got outta here. I still had the Google page up…and the image came from this bloggy.

Open Carry Group Sues Arlington Over the First Amendment

Dark_Falcon to groups who think open carry of AK and ARs around town is a good idea:

281 freetoken  May 30, 2014 9:48:47pm
282 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 9:52:46pm

And may I make a suggestion? I propose that the Arlington, Texas police department buy an MRAP from DoD, mount a .50 MG and a .30 cal MG on it, and then roll it on up to the next OCTC protest. When it pulls up, have 10 cops step out in full armor and with full auto M4s.

Upside: It should put some salutary fear into OCTC and its loony members.

Downside: The city will have to clear up the sidewalk after the OCTC goobers emulate their hero Ted Nugent and shit and piss themselves.

283 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 9:53:11pm

I live in the United States, the state of Colorado to be exact. Civil society is, um, civil in these parts. Going about your daily business doesn’t require you to have a semi-automatic (or fully-automatic, I fuckin’ don’t know) long rifle with a 30 round clip with two more clips taped up. These fuckin’ open-carry gun-fuck ammosexuals are really getting my blood up tonight.

284 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 9:53:17pm

re: #276 teleskiguy

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ?!?!?!?

What goes through the minds of these fucktards that they need to carry their biggest gun into a grocery store, get photographed, and be proud of it?

FUCK

did you see this year’s batch of prom fathers threatening their daughter’s dates?

Yeah, responsible.

More here

gunfreezone.net

285 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 9:56:55pm

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

And may I make a suggestion? I propose that the Arlington, Texas police department buy an MRAP from DoD, mount a .50 MG and a .30 cal MG on it, and then roll it on up to the next OCTC protest. When it pulls up, have 10 cops step out in full armor and with full auto M4s.

Upside: It should put some salutary fear into OCTC and its loony members.

Downside: The city will have to clear up the sidewalk after the OCTC goobers emulate their hero Ted Nugent and shit and piss themselves.

Making these idiots defecate in panic and run away is an amusing thought.

What is rather less amusing is that there are probably 2-3 votes on the supreme court for the notion that private citizens are entitled to own and operate military weapons under the second amendment. Scalia, Alito and Thomas would go for this, I think.

286 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 9:58:23pm

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

Dark_Falcon to groups who think open carry of AK and ARs around town is a good idea:

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YES! Dark, you’re maligned a lot for being a staunch Republican around this part of the web. But this??? I wholeheartedly Salute You!

287 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 9:58:43pm

re: #284 Stanley Sea

did you see this year’s batch of prom fathers threatening their daughter’s dates?

Yeah, responsible.

More here

gunfreezone.net

Meh, those photos are on private property and are all in good fun, so no harm. Heck, the guy with the Thompson SMG is in a photo of his daughter with a young black man as her prom date. So while the photos have a throwback aspect, that aspect is in jest and they still show progress occurring in real ways.

Withdrawn upon reflection.

288 Gus  May 30, 2014 10:00:09pm
289 klys  May 30, 2014 10:00:12pm

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

Meh, those photos are on private property and are all in good fun, so no harm. Heck, the guy with the Thompson SMG is in a photo of his daughter with a young black man as her prom date. So while the photos have a throwback aspect, that aspect is in jest and they still show progress occurring in real ways.

And how many of the kids weren’t really keen on it but went along anyway because hey, dad’s got a gun? How many of the dates had advance warning that they were going to have photos like that done and the actual opportunity to say no without it being a big deal?

290 freetoken  May 30, 2014 10:00:34pm

Getting back on topic, one Dallas Morning News editor laments the rise of atavists in the TX GOP:

GOP primary voters are making a victim of their party

291 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 10:02:27pm

re: #285 EPR-radar

Making these idiots defecate in panic and run away is an amusing thought.

What is rather less amusing is that there are probably 2-3 votes on the supreme court for the notion that private citizens are entitled to own and operate military weapons under the second amendment. Scalia, Alito and Thomas would go for this, I think.

You’re likely wrong, given what Scalia wrote in the Heller decision. He wrote there was room for reasonable regulation, and given the cases SCOTUS has taken and not taken, I feel confident that if any of these open carry groups in Texas were to have a case come before the Supreme Court they’d in for a 9-0 drubbing.

292 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 10:03:19pm

re: #289 klys

And how many of the kids weren’t really keen on it but went along anyway because hey, dad’s got a gun? How many of the dates had advance warning that they were going to have photos like that done and the actual opportunity to say no without it being a big deal?

There is no way of knowing that.

293 klys  May 30, 2014 10:04:00pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

There is no way of knowing that.

Then maybe you shouldn’t imply that it was “all in good fun” for all the parties involved.

294 EPR-radar  May 30, 2014 10:07:39pm

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

You’re likely wrong, given what Scalia wrote in the Heller decision. He wrote there was room for reasonable regulation, and given the cases SCOTUS has taken and not taken, I feel confident that if any of these open carry groups in Texas were to have a case come before the Supreme Court they’d in for a 9-0 drubbing.

We can agree to disagree here. For the record, I believe Scalia et al. are unprincipled liars who will incrementally make progress toward their goals while trying to cover up their agenda with dicta in the opinions to pretend they aren’t as radical as they are.

Remember, in Heller Scalia needed to get Kennedy’s vote to have a majority.

295 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 10:10:24pm

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

Meh, those photos are on private property and are all in good fun, so no harm. Heck, the guy with the Thompson SMG is in a photo of his daughter with a young black man as her prom date. So while the photos have a throwback aspect, that aspect is in jest and they still show progress occurring in real ways.

Young black man being threatened by a gun hahahahahah.

It’s not in fun, really. It’s actually the epitome of our depraved gun culture.

296 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 10:10:50pm

re: #270 Dark_Falcon

And nowadays poorer Chinese folks are once again coming to America.

(The piece is not-anti-immigrant and is in fact highly positive, so please do give it a chance.)

The Fujianese in Brooklyn sound like almost every other family in rural China. The parents do everything in their power to get their kids educated and out of the countryside. Some kids only see their parents once a year, during the Chinese New Year. The rest of the time, they are raised/supervised by grandparents or other relatives.

Historically, Fujian and Guangdong provinces were the home bases for most of China’s emigrants. It was a matter of pride for families in those provinces to say someone from their family was working abroad, especially in “Gold Mountain” (San Francisco, or California generally) and Hawai’i.

297 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 10:11:03pm

re: #294 EPR-radar

I am going to disagree. Scalia is pretty open about where he thinks lines should be drawn, and he pretty consistent once he takes a position. I don’t think he favors someone being able to buy an RPG-7 over-the-counter.

298 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 10:13:38pm

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Young black man being threatened by a gun hahahahahah.

It’s not in fun, really. It’s actually the epitome of our depraved gun culture.

Youtube Video

299 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 10:14:03pm

As for me, if a man needed to show off his gun as a sign of his distrust of me, I would bid him and his daughter “Good Evening”, then turn around and go home. When people make clear they don’t trust me, I relieve them of their concerns by removing myself from the equation.

300 A Mom Anon  May 30, 2014 10:17:15pm

re: #293 klys

I think it’s fucking creepy. Like purity ball creepy. There’s nothing at all amusing about overtly threatening your daughter’s boyfriend with a gun. “In fun”, um no. It’s more over macho with a gun bullshit. She’s not dad’s property, she’s a young woman with her own wants, needs and dreams. Dad could make his point about treating his daughter with dignity and respect about 100 other better ways than with a fucking gun.

301 klys  May 30, 2014 10:17:57pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Wait, I’m confused now.

So was it all in good fun or a sign a man doesn’t trust you with his daughter? (And, I gotta say, it’s kind of shitty to punish the daughter for her father’s actions.)

302 klys  May 30, 2014 10:19:21pm

re: #300 A Mom Anon

I think it’s fucking creepy. Like purity ball creepy. There’s nothing at all amusing about overtly threatening your daughter’s boyfriend with a gun. “In fun”, um no. It’s more over macho with a gun bullshit. She’s not dad’s property, she’s a young woman with her own wants, needs and dreams. Dad could make his point about treating his daughter with dignity and respect about 100 other better ways than with a fucking gun.

My dad never needed a gun. Instead, he asked me if I was happy and took my word for it.

303 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 10:19:24pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

As for me, if a man needed to show off his gun as a sign of his distrust of me, I would bid him and his daughter “Good Evening”, then turn around and go home. When people make clear they don’t trust me, I relieve them of their concerns by removing myself from the equation.

That’s the point, it’s a party prop now. Not a threat. They’ve lost the significance of the gun.

The dudes were wondering if it was loaded, and if the father was drunk I’m sure.

304 Stanley Sea  May 30, 2014 10:21:04pm

Hitting the rack. Good night now!

305 Dark_Falcon  May 30, 2014 10:21:43pm

re: #301 klys

Wait, I’m confused now.

So was it all in good fun or a sign a man doesn’t trust you with his daughter? (And, I gotta say, it’s kind of shitty to punish the daughter for her father’s actions.)

You’re right, so I have withdrawn my #287. if you refresh you’ll see its been changed to put the original post in strike through.

306 Amory Blaine  May 30, 2014 10:23:25pm

Awesome work Gus looks like fun. In other news the Alex Jones-Bilderburg fundraiser is underway. Buy seeds. And nascent iodine.

308 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 10:26:07pm

re: #306 Amory Blaine

Awesome work Gus looks like fun. In other news the Alex Jones-Bilderburg fundraiser is underway. Buy seeds. And nascent iodine.

tinfoil haberdashery

309 prairiefire  May 30, 2014 10:35:06pm

re: #219 Gus

re: #217 Gus

Such cleverness! The shading ~ fantastic. That’s a template? Imagine the gravitas.

310 freetoken  May 30, 2014 10:43:03pm

Dwelling once more on what is called the “Late Bronze Age Crisis”, it occurs to me that these large scale, large regional changes in civilization simply can’t be avoided.

H. sapiens, no matter how much smarter than other species, is still just part of the global web of food producers and consumers, the continual machine of carbon-hydrogen bonding then releasing, ultimately all powered by the nuclear fusion of our local star but more proximately derived from the surface chemistry of this planet.

Human organizations demonstrate non-linear characteristics. Instability of the social hierarchy at any time ought to be accepted.

When I see reactionaries and atavists elected, not just in the US but worldwide, or political changes at the hands of the power-centers (e.g., recently in Thailand), I now chalk it up to our discomfort with the changes our own inventions have wrought way too quickly for many of us to truly understand, or at least understand well enough that we are not afraid of them.

The likes of Duck Dynasty stars are a world apart from, as an example, a post-doc in Boston studying genetic medicine diagnostic tools. It’s not that the Robertson clan are inherently stupid, but their culture does not value the real discoveries of the past 100 years. At least, beyond exploiting telecommunications to make a lot of money.

I fully accept that many may see me as a doomer, but I do believe that we are unlikely to see hardly any of the advances fancifully envisioned in some of our iconic science-fiction creations. And I don’t mean gadgets only, but also the positive social changes often (but not always) portrayed as arising from those inventions.

The rise of atavism as a political movement isn’t going to go away, I think. It did not start at any given point, though the election of Obama did bring many backwards thinkers out of the closet.

I do not ascribe to the doom-NOW! approaches - I can accept that even if I live many more years (and many of my ancestors and relatives have lived to ripe old ages) “things” won’t change that much, just incrementally, with a few spurts here and there.

When I read about my ancestors from say 300 years ago, I think they would have had a hard time guessing what life would be like in 2014. I’m not talking about gadgets - too many people get hung up today about technology, treating “technology” as latter day magic - but rather about social changes.

Societies do change.

Entire civilizations grow, grow old, and wither away, either disappearing for their remnants morph into something else.

311 Floral Giraffe  May 30, 2014 10:46:10pm

re: #310 freetoken

And the change in foods! Goodness, fruits & veggies that weren’t available, much less ice & being able to store food. Nutrition has changed the length and qualities of peoples lives so much!

312 freetoken  May 30, 2014 10:47:44pm

re: #311 Floral Giraffe

How we eat has changed tremendously, and that has directly affected family life and family structures.

313 Lidane  May 30, 2014 10:50:03pm

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

Why anyone would feel the need to carry a Kalashnikov while grocery shopping in beyond me. A pistol I can understand, but an AK in such a situation is nothing more than obnoxious pose-striking.

Open Carry is all about obnoxious pose-striking, especially with these long gun wearing dipshits. And I’m sorry, but the only people who need to have a pistol on open display are cops. I see some civilian dude with a gun openly on display like that and I don’t feel safe at all. And I sure as hell don’t trust him to keep anyone safe either.

Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows that a gun like that isn’t going to save you from the person who walks up next to you easy as you please and sucker punches you or otherwise knocks you out cold. And opening fire with a gun that powerful on the streets (say, against someone who mugs you) runs the risk of hitting an innocent bystander.

There is ZERO purpose to open carry except to put your penis extension on public display and making yourself look like a tool.

314 GlutenFreeJesus  May 30, 2014 10:53:17pm

re: #262 Lidane

I want all these open carry fuckwits to explain to me how a gun like that is supposed to help you if you’re attacked by someone. What are you going to do, open fire on the guy if he sucker punches you? What guarantee do you have that his body will stop the bullet and that you won’t hit someone else that’s just minding their own business?

God these assholes are insufferable. And I hope Home Depot bans guns just to spite them.

They just open themselves for being the first victims.

315 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 10:55:22pm

re: #312 freetoken

How we eat has changed tremendously, and that has directly affected family life and family structures.

When it becomes possible to feed one’s family without working long hours in the fields or on a fishing boat, an entirely new way of life opens up. Families don’t need to worry about a poor growing or fishing season, or calamities like floods wiping out their only livelihoods. They have now a wider choice of foods available than ever before.

316 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 10:59:50pm

re: #310 freetoken

Dwelling once more on what is called the “Late Bronze Age Crisis”, it occurs to me that these large scale, large regional changes in civilization simply can’t be avoided.

H. sapiens, no matter how much smarter than other species, is still just part of the global web of food producers and consumers, the continual machine of carbon-hydrogen bonding then releasing, ultimately all powered by the nuclear fusion of our local star but more proximately derived from the surface chemistry of this planet.

Human organizations demonstrate non-linear characteristics. Instability of the social hierarchy at any time ought to be accepted.

When I see reactionaries and atavists elected, not just in the US but worldwide, or political changes at the hands of the power-centers (e.g., recently in Thailand), I now chalk it up to our discomfort with the changes our own inventions have wrought way too quickly for many of us to truly understand, or at least understand well enough that we are not afraid of them.

The likes of Duck Dynasty stars are a world apart from, as an example, a post-doc in Boston studying genetic medicine diagnostic tools. It’s not that the Robertson clan are inherently stupid, but their culture does not value the real discoveries of the past 100 years. At least, beyond exploiting telecommunications to make a lot of money.

I fully accept that many may see me as a doomer, but I do believe that we are unlikely to see hardly any of the advances fancifully envisioned in some of our iconic science-fiction creations. And I don’t mean gadgets only, but also the positive social changes often (but not always) portrayed as arising from those inventions.

The rise of atavism as a political movement isn’t going to go away, I think. It did not start at any given point, though the election of Obama did bring many backwards thinkers out of the closet.

I do not ascribe to the doom-NOW! approaches - I can accept that even if I live many more years (and many of my ancestors and relatives have lived to ripe old ages) “things” won’t change that much, just incrementally, with a few spurts here and there.

When I read about my ancestors from say 300 years ago, I think they would have had a hard time guessing what life would be like in 2014. I’m not talking about gadgets - too many people get hung up today about technology, treating “technology” as latter day magic - but rather about social changes.

Societies do change.

Entire civilizations grow, grow old, and wither away, either disappearing for their remnants morph into something else.

upding for late bronze age crisis reference. sea peoples and greek dark ages what

317 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:03:42pm

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi

I think the biggest change the past 100 years has been the shrinking family unit. At least for now, this to me appears to be a change of such large consequence to our lives that we haven’t yet really appreciated all the side-effects.

Also, and this statement may incur a bit of discomfort in some, but the future will belong to those today who believe in, and practice, women having many children.

This is the irony of the Duggers - no matter how some may see them as either backwards or even horrible (for growing population) - the future belongs to them. They will have more grandchildren, great grandchildren, and so forth, than most anyone else around today:

The Duggars visit a fertility clinic to see if they can add to brood

318 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 11:06:43pm

anyway, since i always have to have a book im reading - right now it s a biography of freud - it s convenient to be able to carry it around in a little device roughly the size of a pack of cigarettes

319 teleskiguy  May 30, 2014 11:08:02pm
320 klys  May 30, 2014 11:08:31pm

re: #318 dog philosopher

anyway, since i always have to have a book im reading - right now it s a biography of freud - it s convenient to be able to carry it around in a little device roughly the size of a pack of cigarettes

Packing for trips has become SO MUCH EASIER now that I can fit a whole bookshelf into my purse.

321 Lidane  May 30, 2014 11:09:15pm
322 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 11:09:26pm

re: #317 freetoken

Maybe, but not all the Dugger-rugrats will turn out to be like their parents or grandparents. And, in terms of numbers, the Duggers’ descendants will still be outnumbered by non-Dugger offspring.

Personally, I think the Duggers are dangerously obsessed with having kids, like they’re trying for a mention in the Guinness Book of World Records. Going to a fertility clinic after you’ve already birthed 18 kids (or whatever the current Dugger population is) is just plain nuts.

323 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:11:16pm

If everyone reproduced as much as the Duggers, a back-of-the-envelope calculation tells me that it would take 24 generations before the mass of all humans surpassed the mass of the Earth.

With fast breeders we could do it in 5 centuries or so.

324 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2014 11:13:44pm

re: #295 Stanley Sea

Young black man being threatened by a gun hahahahahah.

It’s not in fun, really. It’s actually the epitome of our depraved gun culture.

And in that picture the dad actually has the gun pointed at the kid’s chest and has his finger on the trigger.

Fucking irresponsible and creepy as hell.

325 dog philosopher  May 30, 2014 11:14:43pm

re: #310 freetoken

it is our fate to live in a time when we are changing our culture constantly and so rapidly that we are all in a constant state of continual readjustment and stress

i was thinking about writing a story about a society that had had a few hundred years to learn how to live w the industrial revolution w/out things changing around them constantly all the time

326 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:15:26pm

re: #319 teleskiguy

I’m flattered, but I’m just a surly old curmudgeon, and thus according to some recent research more prone to dementia.

327 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 11:15:46pm

re: #323 freetoken

If everyone reproduced as much as the Duggers, a back-of-the-envelope calculation tells me that it would take 24 generations before the mass of all humans surpassed the mass of the Earth.

With fast breeders we could do it in 5 centuries or so.

You need to factor in mortality rates.

328 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:16:26pm

re: #327 wheat-dogghazi

I did, otherwise it would take 23 generations.

329 kirkspencer  May 30, 2014 11:20:52pm

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

I am going to disagree. Scalia is pretty open about where he thinks lines should be drawn, and he pretty consistent once he takes a position. I don’t think he favors someone being able to buy an RPG-7 over-the-counter.

20 years ago - even 15 - I’d have agreed with you. As I’ve said, however, I think Scalia is losing it mentally based on his writing of the past decade and a half. Yes, Heller was 2008, only six years ago. Even there he’s using polemic and non-precedential basis for the opinion - and not as supplement but as cornerstone.

As a small but critical reminder, it’s Scalia who had the recent decision that significantly mis-quoted, and worse mis-represented the context, of an earlier opinion written by none other than Scalia.

So sorry, but I’m in agreement with EPR-radar and think Scalia will decide and then select material to defend his decision.

330 klys  May 30, 2014 11:20:56pm

re: #323 freetoken

If everyone reproduced as much as the Duggers, a back-of-the-envelope calculation tells me that it would take 24 generations before the mass of all humans surpassed the mass of the Earth.

With fast breeders we could do it in 5 centuries or so.

As a physical scientist I feel compelled to point out that humans cannot create mass. We can transform it from food to our waistlines, but there are in fact a finite number of atoms associated with the planet and I don’t think that we’re gaining more at a sufficient rate to allow humans to surpass the mass of the earth.

Thermodynamics says no cookie.

331 goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2014 11:21:31pm

re: #328 freetoken

I did, otherwise it would take 23 generations.

The real question is what’s the carrying capacity for humanity of the Earth ecosystem. If the Duggar rate was average there’s no way we’d get through even one eighth of a generation before triggering mass starvation and total collapse.

332 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:23:51pm

re: #331 goddamnedfrank

But it’s God will for women to have babies, as many as possible.

Certainly you’re not suggesting that God would let his faithful starve?!

333 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:24:59pm

re: #330 klys

As a physical scientist I feel compelled to point out that humans cannot create mass. We can transform it from food to our waistlines, but there are in fact a finite number of atoms associated with the planet and I don’t think that we’re gaining more at a sufficient rate to allow humans to surpass the mass of the earth.

Thermodynamics says no cookie.

I was assuming, of course, that we create gadgets that could transform the mass of planet into foodstuffs for ourselves.

334 klys  May 30, 2014 11:26:18pm

re: #333 freetoken

I was assuming, of course, that we create gadgets that could transform the mass of planet into foodstuffs for ourselves.

Maybe we should instead be inventing ships to travel to other planets.

Because if you want the mass of humans to surpass the mass of the planet, there wouldn’t be a planet left after all of it had been transformed for foodstuff.

335 freetoken  May 30, 2014 11:27:11pm

re: #334 klys

Because if you want the mass of humans to surpass the mass of the planet, there wouldn’t be a planet left after all of it had been transformed for foodstuff.

A mere technicality.

336 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 11:30:08pm

re: #331 goddamnedfrank

The real question is what’s the carrying capacity for humanity of the Earth ecosystem. If the Duggar rate was average there’s no way we’d get through even one eighth of a generation before triggering mass starvation and total collapse.

Large families were more normal many years ago, to compensate for higher infant mortality rates. Now, there is really no genetic “pressure,” as it were, for produce more than a half-dozen offspring, because all those kids will likely survive childhood.

The Duggars are outliers, because most couples really don’t want to take care of 18+ children. There’s no way that size family would become a norm.

337 Floral Giraffe  May 30, 2014 11:42:09pm

re: #321 Lidane

Charming specimens, don’t you want to meet them?
//There aren’t enough sarc tags….

338 Floral Giraffe  May 30, 2014 11:45:10pm

OK, I had never heard of the Duggars.
And, kind of wish I was still innocent….

339 wheat-dogghazi  May 30, 2014 11:48:05pm

re: #338 Floral Giraffe

OK, I had never heard of the Duggars.
And, kind of wish I was still innocent….

They’re a fookin’ scary bunch, that lot.

340 sagehen  May 31, 2014 12:37:24am

People magazine recently ran a four-page spread on the “charming”, “old-fashioned” courtship the two oldest Duggar girls have going with their fiances. It’s to gag. Didn’t hold hands until already engaged. No hugging. Met on-line and e-mailed a bunch, then visiting at the house, lots of long walks and talks… with younger siblings chaperoning… going to have their first kiss at their wedding…

341 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 1:07:51am

re: #340 sagehen

People magazine recently ran a four-page spread on the “charming”, “old-fashioned” courtship the two oldest Duggar girls have going with their fiances. It’s to gag. Didn’t hold hands until already engaged. No hugging. Met on-line and e-mailed a bunch, then visiting at the house, lots of long walks and talks… with younger siblings chaperoning… going to have their first kiss at their wedding…

The Duggars are as cultish a family as the Westboro Phelps are, but outwardly nicer. I’m waiting for one of the other kids to leave the flock, because sooner or later one of them is going to catch wind of how other people manage to live quite happily without all this 19th century behavior.

Charlotte Brontë would probably consider the Duggars a very quaint family.

342 Kragar  May 31, 2014 1:09:20am

The Duggars are a profoundly broken family, who deserve both scorn and pity.

343 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 1:31:34am

re: #16 darthstar

Does a bear shit in the woods? Not if he’s on his hammock.

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Putin’s bear annexed the hammock?

344 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 1:32:46am

re: #342 Kragar

The Duggars are a profoundly broken family, who deserve both scorn and pity.

The cynic in me says the Duggars are milking cable TV for all they can get, for as long as they can. Another example of right-wing welfare.

Sure, they may have sincere religious motivations for their childbearing extremism, but having a show on cable TV sure makes supporting that family a lot easier.

345 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 1:54:29am

re: #225 Killgore Trout

In a sane and rational political party, a Mondale-esque electoral debacle would be enough to make said party realize that it is no longer in touch with reality, and that their policies need to re-oriented accordingly.

The GOP’s problem is the wingnut base. They cannot live without them. If they were to ‘purge’ the wingnuts from the party, they’d be lucky to get one of their candidates elected to the lofty position of municipal dogcatcher.

Most likely, the GOP leadership is taking the long view; by that, I mean their mindset is that extremism inevitably burns itself out - revolutionary fervor dims over time. But that will involve a long and protracted process, waiting for the wingnut base (which is largely composed of older people) to die off, and then gradually drag the party back to the center-right from the extreme right that the wingnut base has dragged them to.

In the meantime, it means their being out of power for the foreseeable future at the federal level, especially in regards to the White House and the US Senate. If they become too extreme, they may well even lose the House of Representatives, despite having gerrymandered safe districts for themselves.

I think the party leadership realizes the problem. They just don’t know how to go about fixing it without wholly alienating their voters, and therein lies their dilemma.

346 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 31, 2014 2:42:38am

re: #345 Dr Lizardo

The GOP’s problem is the wingnut base. They cannot live without them. If they were to ‘purge’ the wingnuts from the party, they’d be lucky to get one of their candidates elected to the lofty position of municipal dogcatcher.

The leadership were too scared of being shouted down by some goombah in a tri cornered hat at a town hall meeting to try to distance themselves from the insanity.

This started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and as we can see from recent comments on Isla Vista, they still have a ways to go.

347 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 2:55:09am

re: #164 teleskiguy

LGF is one of the preciously few examples of intellectual evolution - in the environment, where devolution is actually the norm.

348 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 3:02:36am

re: #247 EPR-radar

Which is basically impossible these days. Adolph Hitler running as a Republican for president would get at least 5-10 red states.

That’s far-fetched. Putin, though…

349 Kragar  May 31, 2014 3:15:09am
350 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 3:19:33am

re: #349 Kragar

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There is undoubtedly some Zen koan there.

351 Kragar  May 31, 2014 3:21:23am

re: #350 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

There is undoubtedly some Zen koan there.

“I see”, said the Blind Man pissing into the wind, “it all comes back to me now.”

352 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 3:27:00am

We’re totally doomed. My otherwise sensible grandson who just came in from work evidently is listening to too much talk radio while doing his driving rounds at night. There is some real poison out there, and he’s being exposed to it.

He informs me that the “stones used to build the Aztec pyramids were laser cut.” Some “guy at Harvard” said so. I told him that was total bullshit.

My jaw dropped. We had a huge argument about scientific proof, etc, and then, he throws in the political angle, “Well,you’d believe it if it was a Democrat saying that…”

This is ignorance being broadcast to the uneducated and those unwilling to actually do the work of finding the truth.

353 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 3:29:29am

re: #352 Justanotherhuman

:(

354 Kragar  May 31, 2014 3:31:50am

re: #352 Justanotherhuman

We’re totally doomed. My otherwise sensible grandson who just came in from work evidently is listening to too much talk radio while doing his driving rounds at night. There is some real poison out there, and he’s being exposed to it.

He informs me that the “stones used to build the Aztec pyramids were laser cut.” Some “guy at Harvard” said so. I told him that was total bullshit.

My jaw dropped. We had a huge argument about scientific proof, etc, and then, he throws in the political angle, “Well,you’d believe it if it was a Democrat saying that…”

This is ignorance being broadcast to the uneducated and those unwilling to actually do the work of finding the truth.

George Noory?

355 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 3:40:18am

re: #352 Justanotherhuman

We’re totally doomed. My otherwise sensible grandson who just came in from work evidently is listening to too much talk radio while doing his driving rounds at night. There is some real poison out there, and he’s being exposed to it.

He informs me that the “stones used to build the Aztec pyramids were laser cut.” Some “guy at Harvard” said so. I told him that was total bullshit.

My jaw dropped. We had a huge argument about scientific proof, etc, and then, he throws in the political angle, “Well,you’d believe it if it was a Democrat saying that…”

This is ignorance being broadcast to the uneducated and those unwilling to actually do the work of finding the truth.

I know far too many otherwise rational and sensible people who believe in woo such as you cited. Also, shows like “Ancient Aliens” and whatnot certainly don’t help matters - especially when they’re on networks like History.

Woo shouldn’t be presented as history. Pseudoscience and pseudohistory, fine….but not actual, objective history. That’s beyond the pale.

356 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 3:41:07am

re: #353 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

:(

Yeah, he’s 23 and really not stupid and is even smart about some things, but spent too many years talking to fantasist gamers online, young guys dumb enough to believe the same kind of crap. He even built his own gaming computer. Plus, we live in the south in a very conservative area—well, let me put it bluntly: among a lot of ignorant rednecks who just think they’re educated because they have some skill, and believe having money and embracing religion is a sign of high intelligence and that’s who they vote for, who their bosses are.

Nothing much has changed for people like that since the Aztecs.

357 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 3:42:30am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

As long as they’re stuck on “aliens”, and don’t go over to “Rothschilds rule the world” stuff, it’s tolerable. Tho one irrationality leads to another.

358 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 3:43:21am

re: #354 Kragar

George Noory?

I have no idea. He claims (and I think I caught him in a lie) that he has a library card from the town he works out of, and that it was a book on tape.

He was trying to rationalize something (by invoking a “book on tape”—a “book” which sounds better than listening to some goombah w/a mic) that I think he realizes is total hogwash.

359 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 31, 2014 3:44:27am

re: #352 Justanotherhuman

During my college years late at night I used to like listening to the AM channel conspiracy nutballs rant about UFO’s, the coming Black Reparations, Atlantis and its secret technology, and mind control. I thought it was good entertainment and a way to let social outliers vent. At the time, this sort of content was fringe commentary only on hard to find low power radio stations.

Now 20 years later we have the ratings leader on cable news spouting the same level of conspiracy nonsense not for entertainment purses like the old AM stations, but as a national propaganda tool in partnership with the Republican Party. We have major online right wing websites spewing a continuous barrage of utter garbage rejecting any and all sense of logic, reason, moderation, Scientific Method, or even just Common Sense.

Not only is this country polarizing between the monetary haves and have-nots, it is also splitting in two between those who want to live in the 21st Century, and those that want the 19th Century back (cleansed and sanitized fantasy version).

360 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 3:49:01am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

I know far too many otherwise rational and sensible people who believe in woo such as you cited. Also, shows like “Ancient Aliens” and whatnot certainly don’t help matters - especially when they’re on networks like History.

Woo shouldn’t be presented as history. Pseudoscience and pseudohistory, fine….but not actual, objective history. That’s beyond the pale.

Yeah, I mentioned the alien “connection” BS and he totally went off. “Not aliens!” Claims the Aztecs were “advanced” in their engineering and scientific capabilities.

I said, you mean primitive people who could barely feed themselves and made human sacrifices to gods invented by superstition were as advanced technologically as 20th century humans?

361 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 3:49:27am

re: #357 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

As long as they’re stuck on “aliens”, and don’t go over to “Rothschilds rule the world” stuff, it’s tolerable. Tho one irrationality leads to another.

I still recall those halcyon days of the 1970s, when you could find woo on television. “Documentaries” like Chariots of the Gods, Overlords of the UFO’s, etc. They’re fun to watch - but taking them as proof from on high is nuts.

362 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 31, 2014 3:52:56am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

I still recall those halcyon days of the 1970s, when you could find woo on television. “Documentaries” like Chariots of the Gods, Overlords of the UFO’s, etc. They’re fun to watch - but taking them as proof from on high is nuts.

It comes to a basic lack of understanding of what science is and how it works.
It is entirely possible that ancient people developed certain advanced technologies, but because there were no scientists, universities or scientific institutions to document, spread and build on it, the knowledge and the technology died out with its creators.

And that is why we need science: objective, rational, non-ideological science, in order to ensure that we do not fall back into another Dark Age.

363 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 3:57:03am

re: #362 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well, the wheel and the lever would have been “advanced” for those civilizations.

As well as having hundreds of slaves.

364 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 3:57:49am

re: #28 Lidane

More rebranding!

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Christian Taliban has their own Party now, officially.

Nice to see them coming out of the closet.

365 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 3:59:10am

re: #41 Interesting Times

On another note, have these people shown up in Austin yet?

Yes, I admit I’m nervous. I’m Canadian. I’m not used to being in places where everyone and their dog owns guns o_O

Ayn is rolling in her grave.

366 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:02:19am

re: #69 EPR-radar

i.e., the Democratic party. That little project is going very well for the masters of the universe. I don’t forget that things like repeal of Glass-Stegall and NAFTA happened under Clinton’s watch.

WEll, those things were long in the making. Clinton can’t take all the blame, it started under Carter.

367 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 4:08:18am

Join our cult or we’ll kill ya.

6 arrested in China killing blamed on cult members

bigstory.ap.org

368 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 31, 2014 4:08:38am

re: #363 Justanotherhuman

Well, the wheel and the lever would have been “advanced” for those civilizations.

As well as having hundreds of slaves.

Back then, knowledge was power, and power was jealously guarded. Only initiates were taught the “secrets”. And when they died, the knowledge died with them.

We take science for granted, but it is a fairly modern human invention.

369 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:10:40am

re: #186 RealityBasedSteve

Charles is a Jazz Musician. His mastery of time allows him to do things like that. Even The Doctor comes to him for advice.

RBS

EXCELLENT!

370 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 4:12:45am

re: #362 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It comes to a basic lack of understanding of what science is and how it works.
It is entirely possible that ancient people developed certain advanced technologies, but because there were no scientists, universities or scientific institutions to document, spread and build on it, the knowledge and the technology died out with its creators.

And that is why we need science: objective, rational, non-ideological science, in order to ensure that we do not fall back into another Dark Age.

I’ve always wondered who built the Antikythera Mechanism; it was pretty damned advanced for its era. Whoever it was, like you said, no one spread that particular bit of knowledge. I can’t help but wonder if maybe there’s another one out there, in some shipwreck somewhere at the bottom of the Mediterranean or the Aegean.

en.wikipedia.org

Not bad for the First Century B.C. Not bad at all.

371 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:14:14am

re: #240 ObserverArt

The taller dude with the sportin’ hat on the left was in another image the other day wasn’t he? Seems familiar.

Yeah, I as looking for tell-take photoshopping, but it is too early.

372 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 4:14:56am

Come on, Mr. Ellsberg, admit it—you’re flattered by the attention after all these years.

You’re digging into a very deep rabbit hole. And recitation of other cases with different circumstances doesn’t increase your credibility on the the issue of Edward Snowden.

373 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:16:50am

I give-up, not finishing the thread.

HOw is your world this morning?

374 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:26:03am

True to form:

375 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 31, 2014 4:30:21am

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

True to form:

Westboro Baptist Church planning on protesting Maya Angelou’s funeral

I mentioned the GOP’s attention-seeking race to the bottom, I would say that WBC pretty much represents the absolute nadir of what they can achieve.

376 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:31:22am

Old, but good

377 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 4:32:25am

re: #367 Justanotherhuman

Join our cult or we’ll kill ya.

6 arrested in China killing blamed on cult members

bigstory.ap.org

I do believe this Wikipedia entry is about the cult in question. The timeframe and the location of where the cult was founded match up to the info in the AP story.

en.wikipedia.org

378 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 4:39:23am

re: #367 Justanotherhuman

Join our cult or we’ll kill ya.

6 arrested in China killing blamed on cult members

bigstory.ap.org

Oh, and I found their website, in English.

It’s some weapons-grade lunacy, to put it lightly. Wow.

379 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:41:29am

I’m trying to remember the name of a math calculation or curve or something someone talked about the other day. It was discovered by a woman a long, long time ago and is called The Witch of something.

Old, old meme, it seems.

380 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 4:42:30am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

I’ve always wondered who built the Antikythera Mechanism; it was pretty damned advanced for its era. Whoever it was, like you said, no one spread that particular bit of knowledge. I can’t help but wonder if maybe there’s another one out there, in some shipwreck somewhere at the bottom of the Mediterranean or the Aegean.

en.wikipedia.org

Not bad for the First Century B.C. Not bad at all.

Yes, used for astronomy no doubt and the positioning of the known planets. Didn’t a lot of ancient learning focus on the skies? Remarkable, although I’d prefer to see a more realistic model than those shown on the page. It would have been tedious, time consuming work, considering the tools available at the time, wouldn’t you think?

And BTW, “On May 25, 2010, the first episode of the History Channel series Ancient Aliens presented it as one of the many “evidences” of ancient alien astronauts visiting earth and leaving behind technology.”[97]

381 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 4:46:23am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

Yes, used for astronomy no doubt and the positioning of the known planets. Didn’t a lot of ancient learning focus on the skies? Remarkable, although I’d prefer to see a more realistic model than those shown on the page. It would have been tedious, time consuming work, considering the tools available at the time, wouldn’t you think?

And BTW, “On May 25, 2010, the first episode of the History Channel series Ancient Aliens presented it as one of the many “evidences” of ancient alien astronauts visiting earth and leaving behind technology.”[97]

I can imagine making it would have been a truly laborious process given when it was built. A labor of love, to be sure.

And of course, what other conclusion would the folks at Ancient Aliens come to?

*headdesk*

382 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:54:34am

Excellent short video about Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome
Youtube Video

383 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:56:19am

Aliens?

OK, am I the only person on the planet to actually listen at the end of War of the Worlds?

Remember, those little microbes?

384 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 4:57:01am

re: #383 FemNaziBitch

Aliens?

OK, am I the only person on the planet to actually listen at the end of War of the Worlds?

Remember, those little microbes?

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one.

//

385 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 4:58:09am

386 Amory Blaine  May 31, 2014 5:00:25am

It’s over here. pokes at monitor

387 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:12:42am

BIL has been diagnosed with Small Cell Lung Cancer —his tests were all clear in February. I guess it is a nasty form of cancer that grows and spreads quickly. It is already in his liver.

:(

388 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:13:00am

re: #386 Amory Blaine

It’s over here. pokes at monitor

Yeah, that’s were I found it too!

389 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 5:13:59am

re: #386 Amory Blaine

It’s over here. pokes at monitor

Or over there. See it now.

390 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 5:14:05am

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

BIL has been diagnosed with Small Cell Lung Cancer —his tests were all clear in February. I guess it is a nasty form of cancer that grows and spreads quickly. It is already in his liver.

:(

Wow, bad stuff. What are the odds of successful treatment?

391 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:14:10am

Ya know, life has a way …

Little girl moved in across the way. I gave her some old sidewalk chalk that has been living in my garage for a few years.

This morning I found she had written the alphabet and all her friends names on our shared driveway.

Nice having little kids around, that don’t live in my house.

:)

392 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 5:14:47am

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

BIL has been diagnosed with Small Cell Lung Cancer —his tests were all clear in February. I guess it is a nasty form of cancer that grows and spreads quickly. It is already in his liver.

:(

So sorry.

393 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:14:48am

re: #390 Targetpractice

Wow, bad stuff. What are the odds of successful treatment?

I guess there is no cure but it can be managed with chemo etc. I don’t kow about once it is in the liver… .

394 Decatur Deb  May 31, 2014 5:16:28am

re: #385 FemNaziBitch

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Can’t actually see it on my monitor, but I’m betting it’s at the base of the taller green plant, upper right. Cats are like that.

395 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:17:40am
396 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:18:05am

re: #394 Decatur Deb

Can’t actually see it on my monitor, but I’m betting it’s at the base of the taller green plant, upper right. Cats are like that.

I had to embiggen the pic to see it.

397 Decatur Deb  May 31, 2014 5:19:28am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

I had to embiggen the pic to see it.

Dog is looking pointedly at his watch. BBL

398 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:19:49am

Soldier Adopts Dog That Saved His Life Because That’s What Best Friends Do
Youtube Video

I forgot to share!!!!!!

I have official approval to get a GSD. I put a word in with my friends involved in rescue —a female 18 months or younger hopefully!!!!

399 NJDhockeyfan  May 31, 2014 5:21:43am
400 A Mom Anon  May 31, 2014 5:25:29am

re: #398 FemNaziBitch

Oh good for you, how exciting! I love GSDs. I’d take on another, but my GSD/Doberman mix is quite a handful. You have to share pics when you get her.

401 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 5:26:07am

re: #393 FemNaziBitch

I guess there is no cure but it can be managed with chemo etc. I don’t kow about once it is in the liver… .

So sorry to hear that. Here’s hoping modern medicine can give him more time. Or, at the very least, make him comfortable.

402 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 5:29:50am

re: #352 Justanotherhuman

Direct him thither: users.adam.com.au

What he heard is yet another version of the Erick Von Daniken nonsense about ancient astronauts bringing advanced tech to the Egyptians and other big builders, because such primitive people (in his words) could never have built those pyramids with their level of technology. Also, the stones at Stonehenge were levitated into place by the druids, or something.

When I taught high school physics, I got into a long and I hope fruitful discussion with a student who had seen a TV show about the moon landing hoax. I had to painstakingly point out the scientific (actually, the sensible) explanation for every bit of nonsense he had heard.

403 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:29:51am

re: #401 Targetpractice

So sorry to hear that. Here’s hoping modern medicine can give him more time. Or, at the very least, make him comfortable.

He’s already had heart surgery. I think the hardest thing is that he is being forced to retire. He is already old enough, but loves to work.

Luckily he and my SIL have 4 grown sons a couple of grandkids in the area where they live.

404 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:31:45am

re: #400 A Mom Anon

Oh good for you, how exciting! I love GSDs. I’d take on another, but my GSD/Doberman mix is quite a handful. You have to share pics when you get her.

Well, it could be a while, but I’m very happy.

Hubby’s concession to getting an offspring of our brat puppy’s sister this fall. Because another hunting dog is a great gift on my part and he knows it. :)

I’ll have at least one dog I can train.

405 Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2014 5:32:33am

re: #394 Decatur Deb

Can’t actually see it on my monitor, but I’m betting it’s at the base of the taller green plant, upper right. Cats are like that.

That is where I thought I saw its legs and maybe head dipping below a leaf.

406 NJDhockeyfan  May 31, 2014 5:33:36am
407 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:38:54am
408 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 5:39:02am

re: #403 FemNaziBitch

He’s already had heart surgery. I think the hardest thing is that he is being forced to retire. He is already old enough, but loves to work.

Luckily he and my SIL have 4 grown sons a couple of grandkids in the area where they live.

Well, my best wishes to your family.

409 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 5:39:28am

re: #385 FemNaziBitch

If I were a rabbit or a mouse, I’d be dead by now, eaten by the hidden kitty.

I honestly can’t find him.

410 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 5:41:21am

re: #407 FemNaziBitch

Hiding the Pain: The Emotional Repression of Men

I’m not emotionally repressed. I just got some dust in my eyes!

//

411 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 5:42:18am

Internal Sheriff’s Probe Launched in Isla Vista Massacre

The investigation comes as officials were called to question over actions made during welfare check of Isla Vista killer

nbclosangeles.com

re: #405 Eventual Carrion

Actually, I see it on the right hand side, sitting in front of the rocks.

412 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:44:25am
413 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:44:43am

re: #408 Targetpractice

Well, my best wishes to your family.

Thank you so much.

414 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:45:20am

re: #411 Justanotherhuman

Internal Sheriff’s Probe Launched in Isla Vista Massacre

The investigation comes as officials were called to question over actions made during welfare check of Isla Vista killer

nbclosangeles.com

Actually, I see it on the right hand side, sitting in front of the rocks.

That is where I found him too.

415 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 5:50:20am

re: #402 wheat-dogghazi

Direct him thither: users.adam.com.au

What he heard is yet another version of the Erick Von Daniken nonsense about ancient astronauts bringing advanced tech to the Egyptians and other big builders, because such primitive people (in his words) could never have built those pyramids with their level of technology. Also, the stones at Stonehenge were levitated into place by the druids, or something.

When I taught high school physics, I got into a long and I hope fruitful discussion with a student who had seen a TV show about the moon landing hoax. I had to painstakingly point out the scientific (actually, the sensible) explanation for every bit of nonsense he had heard.

Did you ever hear tell of the theory that von Däniken was actually inspired by H.P. Lovecraft?

In this entertaining and informative book, Jason Colavito traces the origins of the belief in ancient extraterrestrial visitors to the work of horror writer H.P. Lovecraft (189o - 1937). This amazing tale takes the reader through fifty years of pop culture and pseudoscience highlighting such influential figures and developments as Erich von Däniken (Chariots of the Gods), Graham Hancock (Fingerprints of the Gods), Zecharia Sitchin (Twelfth Planet), and the Raelian Revolution. The astounding and improbable connections among these various characters are revealed, along with the disturbing consequences of Lovecraft’s “sheer fun” for modern science and public knowledge.

Beyond documenting Lovecraft’s influence on ancient astronaut theories and Raelian cloning efforts, Colavito also argues that the appeal of such modern myths is a troubling sign in an age when science is having its greatest success. He suggests that at the dawn of the 21st century Western society is witnessing a deep-seated erosion of Enlightenment values that are the basis of the modern world.

jasoncolavito.com

416 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 5:51:15am

re: #393 FemNaziBitch

I guess there is no cure but it can be managed with chemo etc. I don’t kow about once it is in the liver… .

Sorry to hear about your BIL. They might be able to treat the cancer in the liver, but the chemo will be very aggressive. He’s gonna feel like shit during those treatments.

My student here who was diagnosed with osteosarcoma last summer is doing well. Her chemo sessions were about three weeks apart, but her doctors think they’ve got the cancer under control, so she may not need chemo for several weeks at least. Here’s a photo of her now. She wanted to show me her “new look.”
Carla is 24, by the way.

417 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:52:46am
418 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 5:53:08am

re: #411 Justanotherhuman

Internal Sheriff’s Probe Launched in Isla Vista Massacre

The investigation comes as officials were called to question over actions made during welfare check of Isla Vista killer

nbclosangeles.com

Actually, I see it on the right hand side, sitting in front of the rocks.

Now I sees him!

419 darthstar  May 31, 2014 5:53:23am

This sarcastic rant is fucking brilliant. Go check it out.

As explainer sites like vox.com and fivethirtyeight.com grow in importance, we are seeking a first-class EXPLAINER EXPLAINER to help readers make sense of the people who would make sense of the world for them. You will have the enviable position of capturing recent trends in explainers by writing between five and ten blog posts a day outlining those trends.

One more snippet:

That’s why we need an EDITOR, BUZZFEED. You will not edit BuzzFeed (apparently someone does that already) but instead will edit a new vertical totally dedicated to repeatedly explaining how BuzzFeed, despite simply being a very large and well-funded blog, represents the future of the media. Articles we’d like to see include: “Is this the future of media?” “Is the future of media this?” and “Media’s future?”

420 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:55:15am

re: #416 wheat-dogghazi

Sorry to hear about your BIL. They might be able to treat the cancer in the liver, but the chemo will be very aggressive. He’s gonna feel like shit during those treatments.

My student here who was diagnosed with osteosarcoma last summer is doing well. Her chemo sessions were about three weeks apart, but her doctors think they’ve got the cancer under control, so she may not need chemo for several weeks at least. Here’s a photo of her now. She wanted to show me her “new look.”
Carla is 24, by the way.

She’s beautiful!

He has a lot of support and good insurance (sad to have to say that). He is a realist, but a fighter. Has been very healthy all his life. He’s one I never thought would get really ill.

421 RealityBasedSteve  May 31, 2014 5:56:47am

re: #307 klys

Slooooooooooooooooowly getting the beading in.

WOW!!! Looks like you got a LOT done since last you posted it. That is incredible. WOOT to klys!!!

RBS

422 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 5:58:58am

Louis C.K.
Youtube Video

423 Aqua Obama  May 31, 2014 6:00:19am

Just a FYI: Beware the US House’s new science budget. NASA funding increases, but the bill cuts social science funding and has a poison pill that strips autonomy from the National Science Foundation.

424 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 6:00:24am

re: #419 darthstar

Hahahaha!

“Are you a native full-stack visiongineer who lives to marketech platishforms? Then come work with us as an in-house NEOLOGIZER and reimaginatorialize the verbalsphere! If you are a slang-slinger who is equahome in brandegy and advertorial, a total expert in brandtech and techvertoribrand, and a first-class synergymnast, then this will be your rockupation! Throw ginfluence mingles and webutante balls, the world is your joyster. The percandidate will have at least five years working as a ideator and envisionary or equiperience.”

425 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:00:53am

re: #420 FemNaziBitch

She’s beautiful!

He has a lot of support and good insurance (sad to have to say that). He is a realist, but a fighter. Has been very healthy all his life. He’s one I never thought would get really ill.

I’ll tell her you said so. She’s a quiet, thoughtful girl, but really brave and optimistic. Even so, she’s made a “bucket list” of places to go and things to do, because she now appreciates how short life can be. Her boyfriend has stuck by her side, and they still plan to get married, maybe in 2015.

Osteosarcoma is a tough one to beat. We were really worried last fall, but for now it looks like her prognosis is good.

426 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:05:53am

re: #415 Dr Lizardo

Did you ever hear tell of the theory that von Däniken was actually inspired by H.P. Lovecraft?

jasoncolavito.com

I hadn’t heard it, but it doesn’t surprise me.

When I was a college freshman, I met a classmate who had worked with von Daniken as a go-fer of some kind. She was not a science major. Her friends told me not to criticize von Daniken while she was around, or she’d go ballistic.

427 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 6:07:10am

re: #415 Dr Lizardo

Did you ever hear tell of the theory that von Däniken was actually inspired by H.P. Lovecraft?

jasoncolavito.com

Yes, I saw that earlier, but he’ll never read it. He’s still in the honeymoon phase of peer pressure (guys).

428 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 6:09:34am

re: #426 wheat-dogghazi

re: #427 Justanotherhuman

This is a good audio lecture by Dr. Justin Woodman in London.

This in-depth lecture on Lovecraft was done by Dr. Justin Woodman himself in 2007 in London. And he is a leading expert on all things Lovecraft and magic. Dr. Woodman lectures in Social Anthropology at Goldsmiths College (University of London), where he completed his doctoral thesis on Chaos Magick in 2003. He also lectures at Birkbeck College (University of London), and the University of Westminster. Dr. Woodman has contributed articles on Lovecraftian themes to Strange Attractor and The Journal for the Academic Study of Magic, and is one of the founding moderators of the Lovecraft Scholars Yahoo Group.
Chariots of the Dark Gods, H P Lovecraft and Occult Lecture Series, Audiobook Radio Documentary

It’s quite interesting.

Youtube Video

429 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:14:25am

re: #427 Justanotherhuman

Yes, I saw that earlier, but he’ll never read it. He’s still in the honeymoon phase of peer pressure (guys).

The short version of the pyramid construction is:

Given enough time and enough free labor, pre-industrial leaders could build whatever they wanted. Cutting stones and stacking them is not rocket science, and the Egyptians and other pre-industrial societies were very good at “practical math.”

430 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 6:22:09am

And regarding Lovecraft and ancient aliens, here’s a 33-page .pdf by Colavito regarding the matter. Sort of an abbreviated version of his book.

431 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:28:23am

re: #430 Dr Lizardo

I remember reading the von Daniken book and a couple of others like it when I was in high school. Even then, I could tell it was all conjecture — wishful thinking on the part of the writers. Worlds in Collision was especially hilarious, because as an amateur astronomy I knew it was really unlikely that Venus was careening around the solar system like a drunken clown on a unicycle, and that it found its current orbit within human existence.

I find it hard to believe that 40 years later, people still believe in this nonsense.

432 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 6:32:36am

re: #431 wheat-dogghazi

I remember reading the von Daniken book and a couple of others like it when I was in high school. Even then, I could tell it was all conjecture — wishful thinking on the part of the writers. Worlds in Collision was especially hilarious, because as an amateur astronomy I knew it was really unlikely that Venus was careening around the solar system like a drunken clown on a unicycle, and that it found its current orbit within human existence.

I find it hard to believe that 40 years later, people still believe in this nonsense.

Heh.

What’s most interesting is that I can’t help but think that H.P. Lovecraft would be bemusedly horrified that his “fun stuff” would be taken seriously. He’d probably get a good chuckle out of it.

It’s like I’ve pointed out earlier about the Shaver Mysteries - which have now been pretty much forgotten, except for Takashi Shimizu with his film Marebito - and that when A Warning To Future Man was first published by Amazing Stories, the response it drew from people who swore that they’d experienced the same thing as Mr. Shaver is for me nothing short of flabbergasting.

433 NJDhockeyfan  May 31, 2014 6:33:50am
434 darthstar  May 31, 2014 6:39:36am
435 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 6:43:24am

re: #434 darthstar

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It’s actually simpler than that: If his lips are moving, you can be pretty sure Snowden is lying.

436 NJDhockeyfan  May 31, 2014 6:44:45am
437 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 6:45:28am

Interesting review.

The Classic Horror Stories of H.P. Lovecraft edited by Roger Luckhurst

bookslut.com

“Again, it’s context that reminds us, in this very scene, that what we’re reading is not only the emergence of a monster on the page, but the emergence of a genre — and perhaps that’s enough to forgive some utterly confounding prose. But Luckhurst’s forthright introduction has more context to offer readers than just an exploration of Lovecraft’s head-scratching style: it also reveals that the latter’s preoccupation with alien terrors is all too firmly rooted in his own unshakeable racism and xenophobia.

“This is not news to many Lovecraft readers, though a great number of collections of his work have been printed with little to no mention of the author’s politics in their introductions. It’s no secret that Lovecraft was a believer in eugenics, and was repulsed by the teeming number of immigrants and “lesser” people he encountered during his brief years in New York City. A staunch Anglo-Saxon Nativist, Lovecraft was in favor of strict immigration policies that would bolster New England against “racial suicide.” A passage from a letter describing denizens of the Lower East Side slums reads almost exactly like a description out of “The Dunwich Horror”: “They — or the degenerate gelatinous fermentations of which they were composed — seem’d to ooze, seep and trickle thro’ the gaping cracks in the horrible houses… and I thought of some avenue of Cyclopean and unwholesome vats, crammed to the vomiting point with gangrenous vileness, and about to burst and inundate the world…”

“In his 1991 introduction to An Epicure in the Terrible: A Centennial Anthology of Essays in Honor of H.P. Lovecraft, S.T. Joshi remarks on the surprising nature of Lovecraft’s stubborn ideas about race. In every other aspect of his life, Joshi states, Lovecraft applied a scholar’s curiosity, and was often reforming opinions when presented with logic or science. But in the matter of his xenophobia and fear of miscegenation within the Nordic race, he remained unmoveable throughout his life.”

438 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:48:07am

re: #432 Dr Lizardo

The power of suggestion can lead even intelligent people down the wrong path. And some people are just predisposed to accept any barely plausible notion as the Truth, as long as the source sounds sincere or knowledgeable. That’s how grifters like faith healers and Glenn Beck make their money.

439 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 6:48:24am

re: #437 Justanotherhuman

Interesting review.

The Classic Horror Stories of H.P. Lovecraft edited by Roger Luckhurst

bookslut.com

“Again, it’s context that reminds us, in this very scene, that what we’re reading is not only the emergence of a monster on the page, but the emergence of a genre — and perhaps that’s enough to forgive some utterly confounding prose. But Luckhurst’s forthright introduction has more context to offer readers than just an exploration of Lovecraft’s head-scratching style: it also reveals that the latter’s preoccupation with alien terrors is all too firmly rooted in his own unshakeable racism and xenophobia.

“This is not news to many Lovecraft readers, though a great number of collections of his work have been printed with little to no mention of the author’s politics in their introductions. It’s no secret that Lovecraft was a believer in eugenics, and was repulsed by the teeming number of immigrants and “lesser” people he encountered during his brief years in New York City. A staunch Anglo-Saxon Nativist, Lovecraft was in favor of strict immigration policies that would bolster New England against “racial suicide.” A passage from a letter describing denizens of the Lower East Side slums reads almost exactly like a description out of “The Dunwich Horror”: “They — or the degenerate gelatinous fermentations of which they were composed — seem’d to ooze, seep and trickle thro’ the gaping cracks in the horrible houses… and I thought of some avenue of Cyclopean and unwholesome vats, crammed to the vomiting point with gangrenous vileness, and about to burst and inundate the world…”

“In his 1991 introduction to An Epicure in the Terrible: A Centennial Anthology of Essays in Honor of H.P. Lovecraft, S.T. Joshi remarks on the surprising nature of Lovecraft’s stubborn ideas about race. In every other aspect of his life, Joshi states, Lovecraft applied a scholar’s curiosity, and was often reforming opinions when presented with logic or science. But in the matter of his xenophobia and fear of miscegenation within the Nordic race, he remained unmoveable throughout his life.”

Yep. The dark side of H.P. Lovecraft.

He was a remarkable fantasist, and one of the greatest horror authors of all time (in my opinion). He was also a pretty hardcore racist, to put it mildly. It just shows that no matter how much talent, or intellect, or genius a person may have, they aren’t necessarily immune to believing in some pretty serious twaddle.

440 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 6:52:02am

re: #439 Dr Lizardo

You have to remember, IMHO, that Lovecraft, during his lifetime, was pretty much a loser.

He had a following, but never fame or even much money from his craft.

I can see a frustrated little man falling into xenophobic comfort of his worth.

sad

441 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 6:52:20am

re: #438 wheat-dogghazi

The power of suggestion can lead even intelligent people down the wrong path. And some people are just predisposed to accept any barely plausible notion as the Truth, as long as the source sounds sincere or knowledgeable. That’s how grifters like faith healers and Glenn Beck make their money.

I’m pretty sure that Richard S. Shaver was a schizophrenic. He was hearing voices in his head in the mid-to-late 1930s, and then claimed he’d been taken underground, where he encountered the Deros, etc.

It’s also been suggested that during the time his little visit ‘underground’ was taking place, Mr. Shaver was most likely in a mental institution. He was hospitalized in 1934, and then he disappears until the early 1940s. Ray Palmer of Amazing Stories himself said that “Shaver had spent eight years not in the Cavern World, but in a mental institution”.

442 Feline Fearless Leader  May 31, 2014 6:54:09am

Good morning Lizards.

*Exciting* day yesterday (not really). Sat in line for two hours to get a license photo taken. Helped a friend who is moving his game store with moving some stock and furniture around*. Did some shopping on the way home. And then spent 45 minutes around midnight sweeping and vacuuming up glass in the kitchen.

The last was from one of the cats knocking a pint glass off the counter onto the tile floor. Glass fragments across half the apartment. So I had to exile the cats to a bedroom, don better footwear, and then do an extended sweep, vacuum, and then pick up a few additional fragments using a wet paper towel. Not the thing I wanted to do at that time since I was tired and my back hurt.

* - I’ve been taking pictures as the move progresses and things start to fill in and organize.

443 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:54:47am

re: #439 Dr Lizardo

The Victorians and Edwardians of the British Empire were very sure that they were the superior beings standing tall among the benighted native peoples of the Empire. There were similar sentiments in the USA, and Lovecraft was not the only American appalled at some of the immigrants making new homes in New York City. WASPs back then did not question the idea that they were superior in every way to everyone else.

444 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:55:46am

re: #440 FemNaziBitch

You have to remember, IMHO, that Lovecraft, during his lifetime, was pretty much a loser.

He had a following, but never fame or even much money from his craft.

I can see a frustrated little man falling into xenophobic comfort of his worth.

sad

Sounds a bit like Ted Nugent.

445 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 6:56:22am

re: #443 wheat-dogghazi

The Victorians and Edwardians of the British Empire were very sure that they were the superior beings standing tall among the benighted native peoples of the Empire. There were similar sentiments in the USA, and Lovecraft was not the only American appalled at some of the immigrants making new homes in New York City. WASPs back then did not question the idea that they were superior in every way to everyone else.

Very true. The notion of WASP superiority was pretty much taken for granted as an everyday fact of life at that time.

446 Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2014 6:56:57am

re: #411 Justanotherhuman

[snip]

Actually, I see it on the right hand side, sitting in front of the rocks.

I might need stronger reader glasses. Or start wearing my bifocals like I should rather than leaving them on my desk at work all the time.

447 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 6:59:55am

Phew! I’m low on the scale

448 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:00:43am

re: #446 Eventual Carrion

I blame my laptop’s screen. It’s definitely not a Retina display.

Besides, the cat in question is a tabby. Those stripes serve a function, and in that photo, they served the kitty very well.

449 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:00:55am

re: #444 wheat-dogghazi

Sounds a bit like Ted Nugent.

Yes, but Lovecraft actually contributed something to posterity.

450 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:02:15am

re: #449 FemNaziBitch

Yes, but Lovecraft actually contributed something to posterity.

Bada-bing!

451 Feline Fearless Leader  May 31, 2014 7:02:18am

Today is the 125th anniversary of Johnstown, PA being devastated by a flood of the Conemaugh River, killing over 2000 people. Flood was caused by a dam collapse on the Little Conemaugh River after several days of heavy rains.

en.wikipedia.org

452 Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2014 7:03:31am

re: #429 wheat-dogghazi

The short version of the pyramid construction is:

Given enough time and enough free labor, pre-industrial leaders could build whatever they wanted. Cutting stones and stacking them is not rocket science, and the Egyptians and other pre-industrial societies were very good at “practical math.”

But I still think the aqueducts were built by ancient alien water park engineers.

453 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:06:09am

re: #452 Eventual Carrion

But I still think the aqueducts were built by ancient alien water park engineers.

There is a scene in season 2 of History Channel’s Vikings in which King Ekbert and the “priest” share knowledge of what they learned travelling to King Charlemange’s court.

King Ekbert remarks that the locals know nothing of the Romans, “They actually thing such works were created by a race of giants!” Then he tells the “priest” to keep quiet about the truth at risk of death.

It is so frustrating to me that people living side-by-side can be living so vastly different realities. And it goes on generation after generation.

454 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:07:25am

re: #452 Eventual Carrion

But I still think the aqueducts were built by ancient alien water park engineers.

The Roman aqueducts are an engineering marvel, built so well that some are still in operation. As water park rides, though, they suck. Not enough of an incline to build up speed. Bo-ring!

455 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 7:09:02am

re: #439 Dr Lizardo

But the theme seems to be that his racism and nativism was expressed in his horror fiction, that there was no reconciliation for him personally to “The Other”, that is, those not Anglo, or like he, himself, and the monsters in his fiction were a metaphor for his hatred of them. I think that goes even beyond the white supremacism of today (they at least accept some immigrants if they’re “white”, like Germans, etc), and even beyond the cultural norms of his time.

Lovecraft, Racism, & the “Man of His Time” Defense

nicolecushing.wordpress.com

456 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:10:05am
457 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:14:57am

re: #455 Justanotherhuman

But the theme seems to be that his racism and nativism was expressed in his horror fiction, that there was no reconciliation for him personally to “The Other”, that is, those not Anglo, or like he, himself, and the monsters in his fiction were a metaphor for his hatred of them. I think that goes even beyond the white supremacism of today (they at least accept some immigrants if they’re “white”, like Germans, etc), and even beyond the cultural norms of his time.

Lovecraft, Racism, & the “Man of His Time” Defense

nicolecushing.wordpress.com

A fair point. I don’t know enough about Lovecraft to comment more about it, but I can believe he was deeply disturbed, if not horrified by what he saw in the tenements.

It’s the same kind of deep-seated hatred and fear some people have now toward LGBT, Mexicans and blah people, especially when such people end up in positions of power. It’s the bigots’ world turned upside down.

458 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 7:15:26am

re: #456 FemNaziBitch

The psychopathic scale

Eh, I scored a 27.

459 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:17:14am
460 Dave In Austin  May 31, 2014 7:17:20am

re: #454 wheat-dogghazi

I’ll bet is would still be a good float…. Coldies and sunburn all along the Appian Way

461 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 7:19:20am

re: #455 Justanotherhuman

But the theme seems to be that his racism and nativism was expressed in his horror fiction, that there was no reconciliation for him personally to “The Other”, that is, those not Anglo, or like he, himself, and the monsters in his fiction were a metaphor for his hatred of them. I think that goes even beyond the white supremacism of today (they at least accept some immigrants if they’re “white”, like Germans, etc), and even beyond the cultural norms of his time.

Lovecraft, Racism, & the “Man of His Time” Defense

nicolecushing.wordpress.com

Lovecraft’s racism was indeed notable, even for his time and place.

462 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 7:19:38am

re: #458 Justanotherhuman

Eh, I scored a 27.

30% here. Guess I should give up my plans of world domination.

463 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:20:37am

re: #462 Targetpractice

30% here. Guess I should give up my plans of world domination.

I scored 18, but then again, I took the test on a good day.

I think we are all prone to being less empathetic day-to-day.

464 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:20:56am

re: #453 FemNaziBitch

The Western Roman Empire fell in the 5th century, and Charlemagne ruled during the 9th in a bit of a Roman backwater. Education was very limited, so it’s entirely believable that many Frankish people knew nothing of the Romans. The Vikings were probably as a whole not much better educated, but at least they traveled a lot and got to see more of the world than Charles’ lot.

465 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:21:04am

re: #463 FemNaziBitch

I scored 18, but then again, I took the test on a good day.

I think we are all prone to being less empathetic day-to-day.

Not sure how I would test on a bad pain day.

466 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 7:21:48am

re: #459 FemNaziBitch

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She’s not saying anything every AG who’s lost similar cases hasn’t already said. Same-sex marriage bans are on borrowed time, so she might as well start thinking of ways to deal with the “harm” she predicts will befall Florida.

467 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:22:15am

re: #462 Targetpractice

30% here. Guess I should give up my plans of world domination.

So, you’re more like Pinky and less like Brain?

/

468 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 7:22:17am

re: #462 Targetpractice

30% here. Guess I should give up my plans of world domination.

World domination? I never even wanted to be a boss. Which probably accounts for my total failure in the business world.

469 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:22:23am

re: #464 wheat-dogghazi

The Western Roman Empire fell in the 5th century, and Charlemagne ruled during the 9th in a bit of a Roman backwater. Education was very limited, so it’s entirely believable that many Frankish people knew nothing of the Romans. The Vikings were probably as a whole not much better educated, but at least they traveled a lot and got to see more of the world than Charles’ lot.

and the Northmen did not read and write (really). Yet, they left their seed all over the known world.

470 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 7:22:27am

re: #467 wheat-dogghazi

So, you’re more like Pinky and less like Brain?

/

Narf!

471 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 7:23:23am

re: #463 FemNaziBitch

I scored 18, but then again, I took the test on a good day.

I think we are all prone to being less empathetic day-to-day.

Especially when we’re surrounded by whiners. : )

472 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:23:49am

So I put one of those peely-off masks on my face.

I can’t tell you how much I hate the peel process.

But, damnit, I paid for the tube and I’m going to use it!

473 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:25:28am

re: #469 FemNaziBitch

and the Northmen did not read and write (really). Yet, they left their seed all over the known world.

They were good traders, though, once they got over the raping and pillaging stuff. They were not dumb bunnies, for sure.

474 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:26:24am

More on small cell lung cancer:

Patients with small cell lung cancer (SCLC) will either be diagnosed in the limited or extensive stage of the disease. In the extensive stage, cancer has spread to tissue outside of the originally affected lung. Extensive stage small cell lung cancer can mean that the opposite lung now has the disease, or the cancer has spread further into distant organs, such as the liver or brain.

Due to the aggressive nature of small cell lung cancer, about 75 percent of patients discover the disease in the more advanced, extensive stage. At this point, surgery is typically not an option. For patients diagnosed with extensive stage SCLC, the median survival rate is 6 to 12 months.

excerpt from family mass email

475 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:27:05am

re: #473 wheat-dogghazi

They were good traders, though, once they got over the raping and pillaging stuff. They were not dumb bunnies, for sure.

And their women were equals.

476 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 7:28:16am

re: #474 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, I knew it would be a tough one to beat. My thoughts go toward you and your family.

477 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:29:37am

re: #475 FemNaziBitch

And their women were equals.

Well, that’s probably not the best way to state it.

It seems Norse society was more of a meritocracy. Strength, cunning and battle skills were valued, regardless of the status or gender of the person exhibiting those skills.

478 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:29:52am

re: #476 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, I knew it would be a tough one to beat. My thoughts go toward you and your family.

:)

479 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 7:31:33am

re: #475 FemNaziBitch

And their women were equals.

Mostly as a matter of necessity. Men would be away for long stretches, so women had to be ready to pick up the slack at home. That could mean taking care of the heavy lifting or it could mean fighting off wild animals or invading hordes. Though it was expected that sons would take up the duty of protecting the home as they grew into manhood.

480 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 7:33:22am

re: #475 FemNaziBitch

And their women were equals.

Their women were, but they thought nothing of raping the women of other nations, thought it was “fruits of victory”. So still rape culture, just with some women off-limits.

481 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:34:58am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Their women were, but they thought nothing of raping the women of other nations, thought it was “fruits of victory”. So still rape culture, just with some women off-limits.

Battle Frenzy is part of war —resulting in rape in every culture and every time period.

Yet, a woman who fought back was respected.

482 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 7:38:31am

We are so doomed, cont.

‘Gangnam Style’ becomes 1st YouTube video to hit 2 billion views, 17 months after passing 1 billion mark - @billboard
Read more on billboard.com

483 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:41:14am

re: #432 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

What’s most interesting is that I can’t help but think that H.P. Lovecraft would be bemusedly horrified that his “fun stuff” would be taken seriously. He’d probably get a good chuckle out of it.

It’s like I’ve pointed out earlier about the Shaver Mysteries - which have now been pretty much forgotten, except for Takashi Shimizu with his film Marebito - and that when A Warning To Future Man was first published by Amazing Stories, the response it drew from people who swore that they’d experienced the same thing as Mr. Shaver is for me nothing short of flabbergasting.

WEll, he made it into Project Gutenberg

484 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:42:49am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Their women were, but they thought nothing of raping the women of other nations, thought it was “fruits of victory”. So still rape culture, just with some women off-limits.

And really, this same belief is what we are fighting so hard against today. Sex Workers, sluts etc are not fair game.

Not much has changed

485 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:47:22am

Men’s emotional repression with George Clooney and Brad Pitt:
Youtube Video

486 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:48:13am

ewwwww

487 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 7:51:23am

re: #486 FemNaziBitch

ewwwww

[Embedded content]

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

488 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 7:55:02am

Today’s pie fight
STFU? Really?

Is that the direction that DKos is heading?
Forget for a moment whatever the topic is that is being discussed. It doesn’t matter if we are talking about misogyny, or racism, or foreign policy, or do these pants make me look fat.

Shut The Fuck Up means one thing and one thing alone:

the debate is over and the lecture has started

Well I didn’t come here to be lectured. I don’t go anywhere to be lectured. Except maybe to a college classroom, and this doesn’t look like a college.

I come here to debate ideas. I’m betting that a lot of other people do to. If you can’t get your point across without talking down to people then the problem is your choice of words, not their hearing.

Yes, STFU “shuts down debate.” But #yesallwomen is not a “debate.”

489 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 7:55:26am

re: #486 FemNaziBitch

ewwwww

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He was going to re-bind his copies of the Necronomicon and De Vermis Mysteriis.

490 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 7:58:45am
491 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 7:59:07am

re: #385 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded image]

We’ve done this one.

492 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 8:00:36am
493 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 8:01:56am

re: #491 b_sharp

We’ve done this one.

Did Gus photoshop GG into it?

494 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 8:02:55am

re: #492 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Bryan’s trapped in the closet and can’t find his way out.

495 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 8:03:40am

re: #493 FemNaziBitch

Did Gus photoshop GG into it?

nope.

496 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 8:04:51am

re: #495 b_sharp

nope.

Then it really hasn’t been done.

497 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:06:47am

re: #488 Killgore Trout

Shut The Fuck Up means one thing and one thing alone:

the debate is over and the lecture has started

In other words

“Doesn’t matter what you say or what evidence you post,,,, I win”

498 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 8:08:11am

re: #496 FemNaziBitch

Then it really hasn’t been done.

You got me.

499 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 8:09:48am

re: #496 FemNaziBitch

Then it really hasn’t been done.

GG isn’t in that picture.

500 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 8:14:46am

life is better with chia seed

501 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:15:08am

Happy 60th, Bilderbergers!!!!

Oh ,,,,wait ,,,, shhhhhhh,,,, we’re not supposed to know anything ‘bout your doings!!!!

theguardian.com

On this years agenda

“Intelligence sharing” and “Does privacy exist?”

shhhhhhhh

502 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 8:15:29am

re: #497 sattv4u2

Shut The Fuck Up means one thing and one thing alone:

the debate is over and the lecture has started

In other words

“Doesn’t matter what you say or what evidence you post,,,, I win”

Fundamentalists don’t question their own dogma and nobody else is allowed to either. That’s just the way it works.

503 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:16:39am

re: #500 FemNaziBitch

life is better with chia seed

Know what happens after chia seed!?!?

Chia Pet!!

Image: chia-pet.jpg

504 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:17:26am

re: #502 Killgore Trout

Fundamentalists don’t question their own dogma and nobody else is allowed to either. That’s just the way it works.

I’m right
You’re worng
Na Na, Boo Boo

(or in todays parlance,,, STFU/STFD)

505 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 8:18:07am

re: #503 sattv4u2

Know what happens after chia seed!?!?

Chia Pet!!

Image: chia-pet.jpg

I ate my chia pet.

506 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:20:03am

re: #505 b_sharp

I ate my chia pet.

PETA would like a word with you

507 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 8:20:47am

re: #505 b_sharp

I ate my chia pet.

Chia Pet, the kind and gentle fiber

508 FemNaziBitch  May 31, 2014 8:21:20am

Dogs got me up early.

Time for my mid-morning nap.

bbl

509 allegro  May 31, 2014 8:21:40am

re: #502 Killgore Trout

Fundamentalists don’t question their own dogma and nobody else is allowed to either. That’s just the way it works.

Did you actually read the article? Just fail to comprehend?

510 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 8:23:50am

re: #501 sattv4u2

Happy 60th, Bilderbergers!!!!

Oh ,,,,wait ,,,, shhhhhhh,,,, we’re not supposed to know anything ‘bout your doings!!!!

theguardian.com

On this years agenda

“Intelligence sharing” and “Does privacy exist?”

shhhhhhhh

The Guardian is trolling for conspiracists. They’ve seen how well Alex Jones typically does during the Bilderberg Conference and they want some of his action.

511 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:26:50am

Well,,, that went well!!!!

The Arsenio Hall Show’ Canceled After One Season

variety.com

512 darthstar  May 31, 2014 8:30:19am

re: #456 FemNaziBitch

The psychopathic scale

52 - I’m so fucking average.

513 darthstar  May 31, 2014 8:31:03am

re: #505 b_sharp

I ate my chia pet.

Juice it!

514 PhillyPretzel  May 31, 2014 8:31:12am

re: #511 sattv4u2

I remember that the late Erma Bombeck had a series that cancelled after one show. There have been quite a few shows that have been cancelled after one season.

516 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:32:44am

re: #514 PhillyPretzel

I remember that the late Erma Bombeck had a series that cancelled after one show. There have been quite a few shows that have been cancelled after one season.

many MANY have

517 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 8:33:04am

re: #511 sattv4u2

Well,,, that went well!!!!

The Arsenio Hall Show’ Canceled After One Season

variety.com

Sorry to see the new show didn’t really catch on like the old one did, probably too much competition these days. But, it did give us this funny moment:

Youtube Video

518 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:35:01am

re: #517 Targetpractice

Sorry to see the new show didn’t really catch on like the old one did, probably too much competition these days. But, it did give us this funny moment:

[Embedded content]

Article implies they had problems booking guests

519 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 8:37:54am

re: #512 darthstar

52 - I’m so fucking average.

30

520 Targetpractice  May 31, 2014 8:38:23am

re: #518 sattv4u2

Article implies they had problems booking guests

Probably true. Still, I remember how popular the show was back in the day, even if I didn’t watch it as much as other folks did.

521 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:40:33am

re: #520 Targetpractice

Probably true. Still, I remember how popular the show was back in the day, even if I didn’t watch it as much as other folks did.

I think I stopped watching late night gabfests once Carson retired. I’ve seen some (or segments of some) here or there, but unlike the old Tonight Show it hasn’t been Must See TV for me since then

522 Kid A  May 31, 2014 8:44:33am

The wise old Owl, Rice head coach Wayne Graham, paces the dugout during a weather delay last night in Houston. Graham, 78, has coached the Owls for 22 years, including a National Championship in 2003 over Stanford. (Photo: Kid A)

523 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 8:45:38am

Very interesting, reasoned article about spycraft and Snowden (who insists he’s a spy). Makes far more sense than anything Godwald could conjure up.

524 Kid A  May 31, 2014 8:46:36am

One more. Double play.

525 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:49:29am

re: #523 Justanotherhuman

Very interesting, reasoned article about spycraft and Snowden (who insists he’s a spy). Makes far more sense than anything Godwald could conjure up.

[Embedded content]

ANSWER,,, once he was assured he’s have safe harbor there!

Edward Snowden: Timeline
bbc.com

526 Feline Fearless Leader  May 31, 2014 8:49:56am

re: #524 Kid A

One more. Double play.

[Embedded image]

Good photo. Should offer it to the Texas baseball team and see if they want a copy of it.

527 Kid A  May 31, 2014 8:51:18am

re: #526 Feline Fearless Leader

Good photo. Should offer it to the Texas baseball team and see if they want a copy of it.

UT photographer was there last night so probably not. Plus this was on assignment for the Houston Chronicle, so technically they own the rights for two weeks.

528 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 8:53:42am

So, ever since I saw the Open Carry Gun in Store Guy something about him seemed so familiar. That is one of the reasons I thought I remembered his image when I saw the one of the two guys in the Home Depot earlier in this thread. Then I found the image I put up later saying I found the one I had seen earlier.

But something about it still reminded me of another image. And then Sergey typed one word in a response this morning that triggered it all.

That word was DEVOlution.

And so I have joined the two…the reminded image and the Open Carry Gun Guy.

Are We Not Men? Not If We Don’t Have Guns!

And I also ended up doing a bit of searching for who seems to be the main dude in the Texas Open Carry Gun Demonstration/Protests

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Mr. Kory Watkins -

Texans for Kory Watkins - Liberty Republican for U.S. Congress

529 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 8:54:37am

re: #525 sattv4u2

ANSWER,,, once he was assured he’s have safe harbor there!

Edward Snowden: Timeline
bbc.com

Along with the support of Wikileaks, Godwald, the ACLU, etc who made it look like the State was committing the crimes of invasion of “privacy” and “over-reaching” according to the Bible of Libertarianism, which has become a cover for criminal activities these days.

530 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 8:57:07am

Just in case some may not be familiar with the original image…

DEVO - Are We Not Men?

531 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 8:57:53am

re: #528 ObserverArt

I found the image I put up early later saying I found the one I had seen earlier.

Is Yogi Berra your proof reader!?!?!
//

I never said most of the things I said.
Read more at brainyquote.com

532 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 8:59:25am

re: #528 ObserverArt

So, ever since I saw the Open Carry Gun in Store Guy something about him seemed so familiar. That is one of the reasons I thought I remembered his image when I saw the one of the two guys in the Home Depot earlier in this thread. Then I found the image I put up early later saying I found the one I had seen earlier.

But something about it still reminded me of another image. And then Sergey typed one word in a response this morning that triggered it all.

That word was DEVOlution.

And so I have joined the two…the reminded image and the Open Carry Gun Guy.

Are We Not Men? Not If We Don’t Have Guns!

And I also ended up doing a bit of searching for who seems to be the main dude in the Texas Open Carry Gun Demonstration/Protests

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Mr. Kory Watkins -

Texans for Kory Watkins - Liberty Republican for U.S. Congress

So, now there are “Liberty Republicans”? WTF?

Good stuff, OA!

533 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:02:22am

re: #528 ObserverArt

Mr. Kory Watkins, sensing dimly that ‘Libertarian’ is getting tarnished.

534 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:03:19am

re: #531 sattv4u2

I found the image I put up early later saying I found the one I had seen earlier.

Is Yogi Berra your proof reader!?!?!
//

I never said most of the things I said.
Read more at brainyquote.com

Fixed. Typing too fast for the ol’ brain as I multi-multi-task.

535 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 9:03:22am

re: #532 Justanotherhuman

So, now there are “Liberty Republicans”? WTF?

Good stuff, OA!

Since the mid 90’s there have been many new “parties” hatched
en.wikipedia.org

536 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 9:04:19am

re: #534 ObserverArt

Fixed. Typing too fast for the ol’ brain as I multi-multi-text.

Thas’ Okay (hence the //)

I sat there reading and re-reading it for awhile. Then I double checked to see what was in my coffee cup!!!

537 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:06:16am

re: #532 Justanotherhuman

So, now there are “Liberty Republicans”? WTF?

Good stuff, OA!

If you want some fun…do a Google Search and for even more fun…a Google images search for Mr. Kory Watkins. The dude is a real piece of work.

He takes himself very seriously.

538 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:08:48am

re: #536 sattv4u2

Thas’ Okay (hence the //)

I sat there reading and re-reading it for awhile. Then I double checked to see what was in my coffee cup!!!

You’re too fast…I also changed ‘text’ to ‘task’.

I need to turn off the TV and the other computer. Too much stimulus going on and I am getting cross waves in the ol’ noggin.

: )

Or, maybe I am just so stunned by the awesomeness of Kory.

539 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:10:18am

re: #537 ObserverArt

Based on his ‘issues’ writing on that blog, he’s more interested in hemp than any other topic.

540 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:10:50am

re: #535 sattv4u2

Since the mid 90’s there have been many new “parties” hatched
en.wikipedia.org

Have you started your own yet?

The Democratic Republic Party of One…Me Party

541 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 9:11:13am

re: #537 ObserverArt

If you want some fun…do a Google Search and for even more fun…a Google images search for Mr. Kory Watkins. The dude is a real piece of work.

He takes himself very seriously.

I’d prefer to see more images of his wife (or significant other ,, or whoever she is) that’s in some of those photos!!
:P

542 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 9:12:06am

Good grief, if I carried a sword around, I’d be thrown in jail.
e_e

543 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 9:12:08am

re: #537 ObserverArt

If you want some fun…do a Google Search and for even more fun…a Google images search for Mr. Kory Watkins. The dude is a real piece of work.

He takes himself very seriously.

With his wife and 2 kids—in front of Hooters

544 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 9:12:40am

re: #540 ObserverArt

Have you started your own yet?

The Democratic Republic Party of One…Me Party

It’s been done!! :(

muppet.wikia.com

545 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:14:49am

re: #539 jaunte

Based on his ‘issues’ writing on that blog, he’s more interested in hemp than any other topic.

If you search just his name, he pops up on a lot of links. A real V.I.P.

/

546 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 9:15:00am

Good morning from SoCal. Screwed by Sony.

Effects firm Sony Pictures Imageworks leaving L.A. area for Canada

Grrr. My zip code is becoming a mere shell of it’s former entertainment glory. This has serious impact on the local economy.

L.A. Times story but I suggest going through Google to get ‘round the pay wall.

547 PhillyPretzel  May 31, 2014 9:16:19am

re: #546 Rightwingconspirator

Why am I not surprised? /

548 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 9:16:43am

re: #546 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning from SoCal. Screwed by Sony.

Grrr. My zip code is becoming a mere shell of it’s former entertainment glory. This has serious impact on the local economy.

L.A. Times story but I suggest going through Google to get ‘round the pay wall.

Why are they heading to Canada?

549 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:17:40am

re: #545 ObserverArt

Via Marcy Marks Howdygram

“…I should also mention that Kory Watkins is running for Congress from the 6th Congressional District. His qualifications? He goes to church, he once attended a Texas Republican Convention and he owns a lot of guns.”
howdygram.blogspot.com

550 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:18:42am

All this open carry talk puts me in the mood for some morning music
L’HOMME ARMÉ (the armed man)
Youtube Video

Background here

551 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:19:14am

re: #549 jaunte

[Embedded image]

Via Marcy Marks Howdygram

Yeah…I saw that image earlier too. Good use of it. It just might be Kory Watkins Day today!

552 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 9:20:25am

re: #548 b_sharp

Why are they heading to Canada?

………..

The Imageworks move will enable Sony to cut costs by capitalizing on incentives that aren’t available in California….

The potential layoffs at Sony Pictures Imageworks follow some other high-profile changes for the industry. The parent company of Digital Domain, a Venice business co-founded by director James Cameron, filed for bankruptcy protection in 2012. And Oscar-winning effects house Rhythm & Hues also filed for bankruptcy last year after laying off 250 employees.

Oh and I should correct myself, not my zip code exactly but certainly the same economic machine.

553 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:21:45am

re: #550 Killgore Trout

The man, the man, the armed man,
The armed man
The armed man should be feared, should be feared.
Everywhere it has been proclaimed
That each man shall arm himself
With a coat of iron mail.

That would be too heavy for the open carry guys.

554 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:22:23am

Update

9:02 PM PT: Several people have said claimed that this diary has no credibility because I didn’t read another diary that started with STFU.
First of all, That’s backwards. My whole point was how STFU shuts down a debate. I didn’t read for the exact reason I just spelled out. STFU rarely if ever is used at the middle or end of a rant.
Secondly, there has been more than one STFU diary recently. Which is the trend that needs to stop. Someone has to say something before it gets out of hand.
Finally, it’s amazing just how much hostility there is here to a diary calling for a voluntary limit on hostile language and more reasoned debate. This is thick irony. If I get banned from DKos I would want it to be for something exacty like this.

Heh.

555 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 9:22:57am

re: #549 jaunte

[Embedded image]

Via Marcy Marks Howdygram

Are those really his skinny little arms?

556 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 9:23:30am

re: #549 jaunte

The best response to these guys is point and extended laughter. Same as a flasher.

557 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:23:50am

re: #555 b_sharp

He tries to work out, but the rifles keep banging him in the back of the head.

558 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 9:25:05am

re: #552 Rightwingconspirator

………..

Oh and I should correct myself, not my zip code exactly but certainly the same economic machine.

And our provincial gov’t just cut all incentives for movie makers because … Oh hell, I don’t know, just cause they’re idiots.

559 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:25:46am

re: #553 jaunte

That would be too heavy for the open carry guys.

Plate mail, Texas, July…what could go wrong?

560 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:26:37am

re: #555 b_sharp

Are those really his skinny little arms?

That’s him. I bet a good 30 mph cross-wind could take him down.

Hopefully he has lead in those boat shoes…or he might be driven backward when he fires one of those rifles. Sort of like doing the Michael Jackson Moonwalk.

561 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 9:27:56am

re: #558 b_sharp

Canada has a huge natural advantage for exterior/outdoor shots. Latitude. Your “golden hour” is half the day. The bidding war is kinda stupid. First there is a ton of profit in the biz. Unlike say manufacturing. Secondarily there is a huge infrastructure and set of skilled people that have to go along. It’s not really all that portable.

In some cases that has reduced the quality of the final product. Like when NM does not have the makeup experts that SoCal has, incentivises using local (poorly experienced) employment. No disrespect to those folks, but they just don’t have the depth of skills. Lots of little things go wrong.

562 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 9:29:27am

re: #543 Justanotherhuman

re: #549 jaunte

Open carry protests are nothing new.

Old-school Second Amendment open-carry event

Except I get the feeling most of the current iteration of “open-carry activists” would shit themselves in hysterics and/or panic if they came across something like what’s in that photo.

563 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:30:39am
564 Lancelot Link  May 31, 2014 9:31:35am

re: #552 Rightwingconspirator

Sony needs to cut costs so they can pay Greenwald to license his book.

565 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 9:32:10am

Who’s giving this idiot money? He just lost one election, for the Mansfield school board.

ballotpedia.org

Wanted guns in the schools, yet he home schools his own kids.

star-telegram.com

Just another teabagger, actually.

566 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 9:32:46am

re: #562 Dr Lizardo

Open carry protests are nothing new.

Old-school Second Amendment open-carry event

Except I get the feeling most of the current iteration of “open-carry activists” would shit themselves in hysterics and/or panic if they came across something like what’s in that photo.

Well, they did at the time, actually.

567 Stanley Sea  May 31, 2014 9:35:05am

re: #563 jaunte

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wow!

568 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:35:37am
570 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 9:41:04am

re: #566 Justanotherhuman

Well, they did at the time, actually.

LOL. Very true….they did. They were in quite a frenzy over that one.

I can only imagine how it would be now, with Fox News on the air. It’d be wall-to-wall hysteria.

571 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:41:25am

re: #563 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Wow. I’m not a fan of prisoner swaps and ransoms but I’m very glad he’s finally free.

572 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:42:04am

re: #565 Justanotherhuman

Who’s giving this idiot money? He just lost one election, for the Mansfield school board.

ballotpedia.org

Wanted guns in the schools, yet he home schools his own kids.

star-telegram.com

Just another teabagger, actually.

Just another mutant from Texas. Not all Texans are nuts…but there sure are a hell of a lot of nutty Texans!

Must be the fracking chemicals in the water and air.

But Kory Watkins is one fascinating guy isn’t he? A true Son of Texas. I bet Rick Perry is proud he helped create ‘em.

573 jaunte  May 31, 2014 9:43:32am

re: #571 Killgore Trout

Hopefully, we gave them back the five considered least likely to succeed.

574 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 9:46:04am

re: #573 jaunte

Hopefully, we gave them back the five considered least likely to succeed.

Unless they promise to “succeed” whilst training!!!

OR

Would have been cool if we installed a chip under their skin so we could GPS them !!
//(kinda)

575 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:46:24am

Looks like it was an exchange for some Gitmo guys
boisestatepublicradio.org

U.S. officials say the only American soldier held prisoner in Afghanistan has been freed and is in U.S. custody.

The officials say Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s release was part of a negotiation that includes the release of five Afghan detainees held in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

576 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:49:02am

re: #573 jaunte

Hopefully, we gave them back the five considered least likely to succeed.

It was some gitmo guys so it’s not like we were going to do anything with them anyways. With the American withdrawal coming up these guys are going to be more of a problem for the Afghans and Pakistanis.

577 sattv4u2  May 31, 2014 9:49:56am

And on that note,,,, day off
That equates to chores!

So off we go

579 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 9:51:00am

re: #561 Rightwingconspirator

Canada has a huge natural advantage for exterior/outdoor shots. Latitude. Your “golden hour” is half the day.

Has not Toronto and Winnipeg been fairly big at getting a lot of film work in the last twenty years? Add in that Winnipeg has some pretty strong software creators, it doesn’t surprise me if they can also offer film studio CGI.

And the damn Canadians have all that free stuff too! ///

580 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:51:39am

defenseone.com

According to the official, once aboard a U.S. helicopter, Bergdahl wrote on a paper plate with a pen “SF?” meaning special operations forces, and the operators said back, loudly, “‘Yes, we’ve been looking for you for a long time.’ And at that point, Sgt. Bergdahl broke down.”

581 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:52:52am

Our friends in Pakistan again

“The transfer took place peacefully and without incident,” said the official. There were approximately 18 Taliban on the site. U.S. officials believe he was held for the bulk of his time in captivity in Pakistan.

582 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:55:27am

nytimes.com

The five Taliban prisoners at Guantánamo were being transferred into the custody of officials from Qatar, who will accompany them back to that Persian Gulf state, where they will be subject to security restrictions, including a one-year travel ban.

583 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 9:55:47am

re: #537 ObserverArt

If you want some fun…do a Google Search and for even more fun…a Google images search for Mr. Kory Watkins. The dude is a real piece of work.

He takes himself very seriously.

Here’s what he says about “monetary policy”:

I will work to abolish the Federal Reserve and the central banking system. I will work with other like minded people in Congress, to have a solution for sound money that is actually backed by some good or commodity, instead of thin air. I believe it’s time we start looking into Austrian economics.

This would be comical if he didn’t actually believe this shit.

584 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 9:57:25am

re: #579 ObserverArt

Has not Toronto and Winnipeg been fairly big at getting a lot of film work in the last twenty years? Add in that Winnipeg has some pretty strong software creators, it doesn’t surprise me if they can also offer film studio CGI.

And the damn Canadians have all that free stuff too! ///

Yes they have. On one hand we have an expanding maybe exploding customer base for movies. China. And they have interesting $ distribution rules, worth getting into another time. OTOH cost cutting and bidding wars and CGI (huge savings over practical effects) are cutting to the bone. It’s weird.

585 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 10:00:03am

re: #570 Dr Lizardo

LOL. Very true….they did. They were in quite a frenzy over that one.

I can only imagine how it would be now, with Fox News on the air. It’d be wall-to-wall hysteria.

I used to see the Panthers in downtown Charlotte back in the late 60s (without weapons, of course).

Most were just local lads, not a serious threat to anyone, and they wore the berets more as a gesture than anything else. But someone who was more serious about the kind of treatment Blacks were receiving in the south was Robert Williams, who lived in Monroe, a small town in Union County, adjacent to Charlotte, and he was loathed by the local powers, the State and J. Edgar. You have to remember, also, even into the 60s and 70s, that it wasn’t unusual for local LE and even State LE to belong to the KKK.

“At the age of 11, Williams witnessed the beating and dragging of a black woman by the police officer Jesse Helms, Sr.[2][3] (Later chief of police, he was the father of future US Senator Jesse Helms.)”

en.wikipedia.org

586 Semper Fi  May 31, 2014 10:00:06am

re: #448 wheat-dogghazi

I blame my laptop’s screen. It’s definitely not a Retina display.

Besides, the cat in question is a tabby. Those stripes serve a function, and in that photo, they served the kitty very well.

and just sitting there taking full advantage of the surrounding ‘cover’ waiting for a field mouse.

Thanks, Wheat, I enjoy reading you…

587 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:00:59am

re: #582 Killgore Trout

This is just infuriating. They hid Osama and now this. And we pay them billions for “”“”cooperation”“”“.

B O H I C A

“The transfer took place peacefully and without incident,” said the official. There were approximately 18 Taliban on the site. U.S. officials believe he was held for the bulk of his time in captivity in Pakistan, and by the Haqqani network, but would not disclose how Bergdahl came to be released by Taliban members.

588 Semper Fi  May 31, 2014 10:01:30am

re: #458 Justanotherhuman

Eh, I scored a 27.

Ditto here

589 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 10:04:03am

re: #583 Dark_Falcon

Here’s what he says about “monetary policy”:

This would be comical if he didn’t actually believe this shit.

Hey Dark…you too Rightwingconspirator, and others…

Since you guys are some of the strongest LGF gun rights supporters, what effect overall do you think guys like Kory Watkins do for the whole guns in America debate?

I see them as helping to create more and more problems for sensible regulations. Actually I think they harm all thinking about guns. The farther out they go the more they are going to cause the other side of the debate to go in the opposite direction.

I was hinting at that one week ago when I said there will be calls for no guns in America. The crazier the gun nutters go in one direction, the more the anti-gun folks will want to try to go in the other direction.

590 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 10:05:42am
591 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 10:07:08am

re: #587 Rightwingconspirator

This is just infuriating. They hid Osama and now this. And we pay them billions for “”“”cooperation”“”“.

B O H I C A

Yeah, it’s amazingly frustrating. We were never going to be able to “fix” Afghanistan while Pakistan remained permanently broken.

592 palomino  May 31, 2014 10:11:55am

re: #238 nines09

GAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUGGGEEEEESSSSSPPPPP………HACK

Michelle has no idea what she’s doing. But Marcus clearly does.

593 ObserverArt  May 31, 2014 10:12:09am

re: #591 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it’s amazingly frustrating. We were never going to be able to “fix” Afghanistan while Pakistan remained permanently broken.

Killgore…the whole entire area is permanently broken.

That is why it was extremely naive to think we could nation build any ME country into a complete Western-style Democracy.

Also to be considered, Pakistan has had problems with both the Middle East and with India. They have been stirring the shit for a long time.

The only time anything will be done is when ALL the people in the entire region decide they need to change. I don’t see that happening any time soon, do you?

594 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 10:19:58am

re: #593 ObserverArt

Killgore…the whole entire area is permanently broken.

That is why it was extremely naive to think we could nation build any ME country into a complete Western-style Democracy.

Also to be considered, Pakistan has had problems with both the Middle East and with India. They have been stirring the shit for a long time.

The only time anything will be done is when ALL the people in the entire region decide they need to change. I don’t see that happening any time soon, do you?

Anytime soon? nope. There are just too many levels of dysfuntion in the region but Pakistan is a particularly bad problem. It’s a nuclear armed failed stated and they have no interest in fixing themselves or even regaining control over their own territory. It’s one hell of a nut to crack.

595 Justanotherhuman  May 31, 2014 10:20:27am

Secretary of State John Kerry: ‘The cost of years of captivity to Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl and his family is immeasurable’ - statement via @NBCNews
End of alert

596 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:22:25am

re: #589 ObserverArt

Hey Dark…you too Rightwingconspirator, and others…

I see them (open AK carry)as helping to create more and more problems for sensible regulations. Actually I think they harm all thinking about guns. The farther out they go the more they are going to cause the other side of the debate to go in the opposite direction.

I was hinting at that one week ago when I said there will be calls for no guns in America. The crazier the gun nutters go in one direction, the more the anti-gun folks will want to try to go in the other direction.

QFT. You may have seen me call them part of the problem. The whole argument is getting more shrill out there. Here we play it reasonably cool at almost all times. But yeah, it’s an issue. Polarization and this time I don’t mean how I take a photo.

Open carry demonstrations are happening in fairly non threatening places. Places like Texas where the overall reaction is gentle as compared to when the Black panthers did their thing in the ‘60’s. If the news was strictly local it would still be a stupid kind of protest. But run that video in places where open carry has been illegal or guns are severely frowned upon and we get this amplification of outrage as if the open carry had been in Times square.

Neither side speaks of the essential difference between the city and hunting areas. The open carry gun guys want to treat Main street like a forest full of game and the anti gunners want to pretend the forest is just like the city. Willful omission of an obvious fact and both sides are guilty as hell. It’s hard to debate or negotiate a middle ground when both sides pretend something.

597 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:23:15am

re: #589 ObserverArt

Oh and I’d add open carry is really dumb in places where CCW is readily available for the qualified.

598 sagehen  May 31, 2014 10:25:43am

re: #570 Dr Lizardo

LOL. Very true….they did. They were in quite a frenzy over that one.

I can only imagine how it would be now, with Fox News on the air. It’d be wall-to-wall hysteria.

We don’t have to imagine; the memory of that event remains so vivid in the conservative mind that 40 years later, there was all-day frenzy (and months-long demand for prosecution) when two unarmed guys in similar clothing calling themselves by a similar name stood near a polling station.

599 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:26:37am

Darn it broken pencil… When I wrote “them” above I mean open carry Texas

600 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 10:27:50am

re: #598 sagehen

We don’t have to imagine; the memory of that event remains so vivid in the conservative mind that 40 years later, there was all-day frenzy (and months-long demand for prosecution) when two unarmed guys in similar clothing calling themselves by a similar name stood near a polling station.

Ah yes……I’d all but forgotten that kerfuffle.

If it was like that demo in Cali in the 60s, Fox News would be screaming for months on end that the BLAH REVOLUSHION IS UPON US!!

601 palomino  May 31, 2014 10:34:32am

re: #509 allegro

Did you actually read the article? Just fail to comprehend?

He never reads the articles he links to. Why would you expect him to start now?

602 allegro  May 31, 2014 10:37:23am

re: #596 Rightwingconspirator

Neither side speaks of the essential difference between the city and hunting areas. The open carry gun guys want to treat Main street like a forest full of game and the anti gunners want to pretend the forest is just like the city. Willful omission of an obvious fact and both sides are guilty as hell. It’s hard to debate or negotiate a middle ground when both sides pretend something.

Neither side? Really? Not once, in any gun control discussion I’ve seen, has anyone called for banning guns particularly in rural areas where subsistence hunting and legitimate protection from wildlife justifies a need for firearms. The subject almost always comes up at some point.

As far as the open carry gun guys wanting to pretend the city is like the forest, that can only be argued if those guys are seeing people as game.

603 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 10:42:05am

re: #596 Rightwingconspirator

Bullshit.
It’s a defense mechanism on your side that wants you to believe we’re out to take all your guns away.
I see the gun nuts pull this out every fucking time any one mentions gun control.
It’s a strawman.

604 Lidane  May 31, 2014 10:44:05am

re: #596 Rightwingconspirator

Neither side speaks of the essential difference between the city and hunting areas.

Bullshit. Most pro-gun control arguments start with an acknowledgement that hunting for food and even owning guns to protect your home are fine, and even somewhat understandable in some areas. What people have a problem with is the notion that folks need to own a military arsenal to protect their house or hunt for food.

605 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 10:45:17am

This is why it goes nowhere in this country.
Anytime we need to do something on guns, even the most minor of things, the other side yells. “GUN GRABBERS!” and that’s it. Debate over. Status quo saved.

606 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:45:26am

re: #602 allegro

Every time there is a call for a national or state law against open carry, that’s it right there. That comes from the more polarized anti gun folks.

How did the California law get passed? Unloaded open handgun carry in the Bay area. Now unless the law has exceptions I’m not aware of, the law has effect in the cities, and out in hiking/hunting remote areas.

607 Dr Lizardo  May 31, 2014 10:45:34am

Meanwhile, in Sudan -

Sudan ‘to free’ death row woman

Sudanese authorities are to free a woman who was sentenced to death for having abandoned the Islamic faith, a foreign ministry official says.

Meriam Ibrahim, who gave birth to a daughter in custody, will be freed in a few days, the official told the BBC.

Abdullahi Alzareg, an under-secretary at the foreign ministry, said Sudan guaranteed religious freedom and was committed to protecting the woman.

Khartoum has been facing international condemnation over the death sentence.

Just saw this story a few minutes ago. Good news, if true - these ‘apostasy’ and ‘blasphemy’ charges found in some Muslim lands are frankly ridiculous, and they need to be done away with. They’re a blatant violation of the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights not to mention the UN Charter, which these states are supposedly committed to.

bbc.com

608 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 10:45:56am

re: #597 Rightwingconspirator

Oh and I’d add open carry is really dumb in places where CCW is readily available for the qualified.

Agreed.

The other thing that bothers me is the insanity of what ‘Open Carry Tarrant County’ (OCTC) has been doing. They got banned from Chipotle and Jack in the Box, so they went into Chili’s and Sonic carrying those same rifles. In doing so they were doing the exact same thing as before while expecting a different result, which is a good definition of an insane activity.

609 palomino  May 31, 2014 10:47:12am

re: #596 Rightwingconspirator

There are very liberal states like Vermont with very lax gun laws. Clearly they understand the difference between Main St. and a forest.

Can the same be said of any red states?

610 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:51:30am

re: #604 Lidane

Bullshit. Most pro-gun control arguments start with an acknowledgement that hunting for food and even owning guns to protect your home are fine, and even somewhat understandable in some areas. What people have a problem with is the notion that folks need to own a military arsenal to protect their house or hunt for food.

That’s a lot more true here where the discussions are more reasonable. Out there in the media? The advocate sites?

Or how about when one of our own wants to take the allegedly non available ever number of actual defensive uses and then take the very well documented number of murders suicides and accidents to justify talking just about anyone out of a defensive gun. I was asked if I was joking to point out the sporting alternative provides the safety training and practice that cut gun accidents and gun thefts via proper storage.

Observers question took on the context of how polarizing open carry is how it energizes the anti gun crowd. So please regard my answer to him in that context-Discussing the outliers not the moderates.

611 allegro  May 31, 2014 10:52:45am

re: #606 Rightwingconspirator

Every time there is a call for a national or state law against open carry, that’s it right there. That comes from the more polarized anti gun folks.

How did the California law get passed? Unloaded open handgun carry in the Bay area. Now unless the law has exceptions I’m not aware of, the law has effect in the cities, and out in hiking/hunting remote areas.

It seems you didn’t read the article. It states that the law exempts LE, hunters, and those attending gun shows.

612 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:53:48am

re: #609 palomino

There are very liberal states like Vermont with very lax gun laws. Clearly they understand the difference between Main St. and a forest.

Can the same be said of any red states?

Not sure, not terribly familiar with other states laws.

613 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:54:48am

re: #611 allegro

It seems you didn’t read the article. It states that the law exempts LE, hunters, and those attending gun shows.

Hikers? And why not just say in the cities? We’ll see how that plays out with aggressive L.E. and aggressive prosecutors.

614 Lidane  May 31, 2014 10:56:58am

re: #597 Rightwingconspirator

Oh and I’d add open carry is really dumb in places where CCW is readily available for the qualified.

Which is why open carry in Texas is fucking stupid. Unless you’re on a ranch hunting there is no reason for it.

We allow concealed carry in the state capitol building for fuck’s sake. In fact, there has been a run on CHL licenses for reporters, state workers, etc. Basically anyone who has a lot of business in the capitol gets a CHL so they don’t have to wait in the same long lines that tourists do.

615 palomino  May 31, 2014 10:58:57am

re: #608 Dark_Falcon

Agreed.

The other thing that bothers me is the insanity of what ‘Open Carry Tarrant County’ (OCTC) has been doing. They got banned from Chipotle and Jack in the Box, so they went into Chili’s and Sonic carrying those same rifles. In doing so they were doing the exact same thing as before while expecting a different result, which is a good definition of an insane activity.

How much time have you spent in Texas? What do you really know about it?

As someone born and raised there, who didn’t leave until age 22, I can tell you about a couple of things you don’t seem to get. First, Texans have a close relationship with their guns. Very close, like at the molecular level. It’s almost sexual.

Secondly, many Texans see themselves as Texans first and foremost. Their entire political philosophy boils down to, “We are so big and important that we could be an independent nation. We don’t need no stinking federal govt in DC to tell us what to do.” Thus much of their protest activity is aimed at giving the middle finger to all unarmed non-Texans.

And remember, this is the geographical power base of your party. Without Texas’s electoral votes, the gop would have no hope in any national election. Without Texas’s heavily gop congressional caucus, the gop couldn’t hold the House. It’s your mess to clean up. Good luck.

616 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 10:59:59am

re: #603 Varek Raith

What do you think the goal of a person that says they want the 2nd repealed supposed to mean? Oh and what do you think DC was trying to do before the Supreme Court intervened?

Thicken the regulations enough and you get a near total ban in effect if not in exact words.

617 allegro  May 31, 2014 11:02:20am

re: #613 Rightwingconspirator

Hikers? And why not just say in the cities? We’ll see how that plays out with aggressive L.E. and aggressive prosecutors.

FFS, now you’re sounding like Greenwald/Snowden. but… but… They COULD! And you whine about dishonesty and pretending?

618 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 11:02:23am

re: #605 Varek Raith

This is why it goes nowhere in this country.
Anytime we need to do something on guns, even the most minor of things, the other side yells. “GUN GRABBERS!” and that’s it. Debate over. Status quo saved.

You know that’s not me. Not what I have written for again and again. Observer brought up how the extremes are feeding off the open carry debacle. He has a point hence my QFT.

619 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 11:03:41am

re: #615 palomino

No, it’s the people who live there who need to sort out the problems of Texas. Illinois has its own problems and my attention will remain on solving those.

620 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 11:04:32am

re: #617 allegro

FFS, now you’re sounding like Greenwald/Snowden. but… but… They COULD! And you whine about dishonesty and pretending?

Okay this is just not helping. Put your broad paint brush away please.

How about that nobody want a gun ban when various places had them on the books? Actually violated our right under the law?

Lets stop pretending the extremes never happen and move on with reasonable fixes.

621 Dark_Falcon  May 31, 2014 11:07:00am

re: #618 Rightwingconspirator

You know that’s not me. Not what I have written for again and again. Observer brought up how the extremes are feeding off the open carry debacle. He has a point hence my QFT.

I’d like to also point out that when the topic is guns the extremists tend to be more important than the moderates because it is the extremes that drive the issue (It’s not a ‘debate’; Positions are too hard set for it to be that).

622 Lidane  May 31, 2014 11:09:50am

re: #620 Rightwingconspirator

IMO, the reasonable fixes will come from the businesses and corporations that ban guns from their buildings as a result of the open carry idiots.

At least Texas still bans guns from bars and from TABC licensed establishments. We’re ahead of Georgia in that respect.

623 allegro  May 31, 2014 11:10:01am

re: #620 Rightwingconspirator

Okay this is just not helping. Put your broad paint brush away please.

How about that nobody want a gun ban when various places had them on the books? Actually violated our right under the law?

Lets stop pretending the extremes never happen and move on with reasonable fixes.

What broad brush? I’m only answering comments to you that you have made. Likewise, I am not pretending that you made them. I agree that there are extremes. The more arguments in favor of open carry you make, the more you appear to be one of them.

624 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 11:13:16am

No need to worry, gun laws will only get weaker in this country.
I’m just pissing in the wind at this point.

625 Lidane  May 31, 2014 11:14:18am

re: #624 Varek Raith

No need to worry, gun laws will only get weaker in this country.
I’m just pissing in the wind at this point.

Sandy Hook couldn’t change the debate about guns. Nothing else will.

626 b_sharp  May 31, 2014 11:18:10am

As long as guns are considered cosmetic jewelry in the US, the culture of gun will not allow rational gun laws to be enacted. When the national health organization is unable to do studies on the effect of guns because gun advocates don’t like it, you know you have a problem.

627 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 11:18:13am

re: #621 Dark_Falcon

I’d like to also point out that when the topic is guns the extremists tend to be more important than the moderates because it is the extremes that drive the issue (It’s not a ‘debate’; Positions are too hard set for it to be that).

The extremes run the pro-gun side of the argument.

628 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 11:19:00am

re: #626 b_sharp

As long as guns are considered cosmetic jewelry in the US, the culture of gun will not allow rational gun laws to be enacted. When the national health organization is unable to do studies on the effect of guns because gun advocates don’t like it, you know you have a problem.

Yes, we’re supposed to just accept this.

629 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 11:19:48am

re: #623 allegro

What broad brush? I’m only answering comments to you that you have made. Likewise, I am not pretending that you made them. I agree that there are extremes. The more arguments in favor of open carry you make, the more you appear to be one of them.

Sound like GG/Snowden? That was what I objected too. And where I say open carry should be allowed is out where it is not a problem. I oppose city open carry. And statewide bans that reflect a poor approach. Like by purpose rather than density, as California did.

Out for now…

hey I just had to reboot, I think Premiere multicam editing and browser tabs are a bit much for my system. Render time again.

630 Varek Raith  May 31, 2014 11:21:03am

re: #618 Rightwingconspirator

You know that’s not me. Not what I have written for again and again. Observer brought up how the extremes are feeding off the open carry debacle. He has a point hence my QFT.

I know it’s not you.
It is, however, who runs the pro gun argument.
We couldn’t get freaking background checks for all purchases passed.
Hell, we can’t even study gun violence because of the gun lobby.

631 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 11:52:50am

re: #385 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded image]

Took me 5 seconds. :P

632 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  May 31, 2014 11:59:02am

re: #439 Dr Lizardo

Love Lovecraft, but not disturbed by his racism because his stories basically don’t concern morality. A dayor so ago we’ve discussed Dostoyevsky’s antisemitism, and in this case it’s much more disturbing, because the man is thought of as a great moral philosopher.

633 Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2014 12:21:48pm

re: #556 Rightwingconspirator

The best response to these guys is point and extended laughter. Same as a flasher.

That looks like a penis, only smaller!

634 Eventual Carrion  May 31, 2014 12:25:21pm

re: #573 jaunte

Hopefully, we gave them back the five considered least likely to succeed.

They’re all second in command material.

635 De Kolta Chair  May 31, 2014 12:26:34pm

re: #549 jaunte

[Embedded image]

Via Marcy Marks Howdygram

No offense meant to The Greatest Tennis Player Of All Time, but he looks like an anorexic Roger Federer.

636 William Barnett-Lewis  May 31, 2014 1:36:47pm

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

BIL has been diagnosed with Small Cell Lung Cancer —his tests were all clear in February. I guess it is a nasty form of cancer that grows and spreads quickly. It is already in his liver.

:(

{{{you & your bil}}}
Kyrie eleison

637 EPR-radar  May 31, 2014 1:45:38pm

re: #419 darthstar

Agreed. I thought the funniest bit was this:

Our enterprise is seeking a full-time FAT SHAMER who can work across social media and blogs. Every day you will identify celebrities who have gained small or large amounts of weight and make remarks like “step away from the buffet table” &c., including the classic “oink!” Truly great fat shamers will not limit themselves to criticizing the bodies of famous women but will also draw attention to regular women who have been forced into the news cycle, including victims of violence and the mothers of slain children—because who couldn’t stand to lose a few? Successful candidates will be able to write the words “just sayin’!” seven thousand times per month without killing themselves. No fatties.

638 William Barnett-Lewis  May 31, 2014 1:52:35pm

re: #596 Rightwingconspirator

QFT. You may have seen me call them part of the problem. The whole argument is getting more shrill out there. Here we play it reasonably cool at almost all times. But yeah, it’s an issue. Polarization and this time I don’t mean how I take a photo.

Open carry demonstrations are happening in fairly non threatening places. Places like Texas where the overall reaction is gentle as compared to when the Black panthers did their thing in the ‘60’s. If the news was strictly local it would still be a stupid kind of protest. But run that video in places where open carry has been illegal or guns are severely frowned upon and we get this amplification of outrage as if the open carry had been in Times square.

Neither side speaks of the essential difference between the city and hunting areas. The open carry gun guys want to treat Main street like a forest full of game and the anti gunners want to pretend the forest is just like the city. Willful omission of an obvious fact and both sides are guilty as hell. It’s hard to debate or negotiate a middle ground when both sides pretend something.

I have always said that if American’s lose their gun rights it will be because of gun owners not despite them.

639 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 2:19:21pm

re: #627 Varek Raith

The extremes run the pro-gun side of the argument.

Not in Washington DC they don’t. Nor Illinois. Nor California. I can link to the more egregious laws…

640 Rightwingconspirator  May 31, 2014 2:22:29pm

re: #524 Kid A

One more. Double play.

[Embedded image]

Dude you have a great eye for catching the best instant. Kudos.

641 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 6:45:15pm

re: #579 ObserverArt

Has not Toronto and Winnipeg been fairly big at getting a lot of film work in the last twenty years? Add in that Winnipeg has some pretty strong software creators, it doesn’t surprise me if they can also offer film studio CGI.

And the damn Canadians have all that free stuff too! ///

A lot of TV shows are already produced in Canada. Vancouver is a popular location, for example. It seems the production costs are lower in our neighbor to the North.


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