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1 Stanley Sea  May 31, 2014 7:41:54pm
2 Kragar  May 31, 2014 7:42:05pm

Obviously this is meant as a distraction from the Benghazi hearings.
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3 RealityBasedSteve  May 31, 2014 7:46:07pm

Of course the Freepers are greeting the return of our soldier with all the good grace and class that they always display.

The whole thing is a cheeseball fake operation from the get go.

SET UP from the start.

Fake, fake, fake.

Daddy talks muslim ?

The whole thing is an op.

I can’t go there anymore for more than 5 minutes at the most. It just angers / saddens / scares me so much that I want to scream and punch a wall.

RBS

4 jaunte  May 31, 2014 7:47:00pm
5 Gus  May 31, 2014 7:54:42pm

6 Pie-onist Overlord  May 31, 2014 7:58:17pm

America’s Gilad Shalit. Glad he’s home.

7 Gus  May 31, 2014 7:59:38pm

re: #5 Gus

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That was for this.

8 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 8:21:06pm

Exclusive - Shift by hard-line Taliban factions may have sealed prisoner exchange

Mistrust between Washington and the insurgents had blocked progress, U.S. officials said. So did the deep-seated fears of Afghan President Hamid Karzai that a deal between the Americans and the Taliban would undercut him and his fragile government.
….

The question now, two U.S. officials say, is whether the prisoner swap could lead to broader peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government for a negotiated end to the Afghan conflict.

The officials expressed hope that it might.

“We do hope that having succeeded in this narrow but important step, it will create the possibility of expanding the dialogue to other issues. But we don’t have any promises to that effect,” said one senior U.S. official deeply involved in the diplomacy.
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There are indications that the Taliban will be more willing to engage in peace talks with the Afghan government once Karzai leaves office, the officials said.

But given the tortured diplomatic path needed to release five Afghans and an American, those talks are likely to be difficult.

9 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 8:25:49pm

Taliban says ‘five senior leaders’ have been ‘liberated’ from Guantanamo

The Taliban also argues that it got a good deal in the prisoner exchange. “It is worth mentioning that the Islamic Emirate, in exchange for the release of its five prominent people,…released one America soldier that it had captured five years ago and handed him over to America,” the Taliban says, according to SITE’s translation.

10 RealityBasedSteve  May 31, 2014 8:42:59pm

Well, I’ve just finished spending money on skin tight rubber clothing that I’ll only wear on weekends around other people. On that pleasant thought, have a good evening.

RBS
(It was a scuba wet suit. get your minds out of the gutter people).

11 Gus  May 31, 2014 8:45:37pm
12 Gus  May 31, 2014 8:51:20pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Taliban says ‘five senior leaders’ have been ‘liberated’ from Guantanamo

Game over man. The GWOT is lost. These 5 GITMO prisoners will be back in a year to carry out the final global Jihadist domination of the world.

13 Eclectic Cyborg  May 31, 2014 8:54:09pm

re: #11 Gus

Where’s the miniature Glenn Greenwald at the base?

14 Killgore Trout  May 31, 2014 9:13:34pm

re: #12 Gus

Game over man. The GWOT is lost. These 5 GITMO prisoners will be back in a year to carry out the final global Jihadist domination of the world.

They seem dedicated and young enough to return to their former professions. If they do they’ll be a problem for the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. I think it’s unlikely they’ll bother us much but I wouldn’t want to be a schoolgirl in their vicinity.

15 Lidane  May 31, 2014 9:15:27pm

*headdesk*

Reminder: These assholes would be celebrating if POTUS was a white Republican.

16 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 9:15:38pm

re: #10 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I’ve just finished spending money on skin tight rubber clothing that I’ll only wear on weekends around other people. On that pleasant thought, have a good evening.

RBS
(It was a scuba wet suit. get your minds out of the gutter people).

I knew what you were talking about. I went on a dive for the first time two years ago. Just 45 minutes. I was hooked! But I decided it would be better to have a dive coach who can speak English.

17 Stanley Sea  May 31, 2014 9:18:30pm

re: #15 Lidane

*headdesk*

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Reminder: These assholes would be celebrating if POTUS was a white Republican.

We support the troops, until, uh.

18 Decatur Deb  May 31, 2014 9:18:57pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

They seem dedicated and young enough to return to their former professions. If they do they’ll be a problem for the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. I think it’s unlikely they’ll bother us much but I wouldn’t want to be a schoolgirl in their vicinity.

You mean we didn’t win their hearts and minds during their Gitmo rehabilitation?

19 Lidane  May 31, 2014 9:22:43pm

Finally got around to watching Star Trek Into Darkness. Now I’m watching Attack on Titan. They’re both waaaay more interesting than the RWNJs trying to find a reason to bitch about a soldier coming home.

20 Stanley Sea  May 31, 2014 9:23:29pm

Gitmo is and always will be a stain on the great land of law US of A. We degraded ourselves to unlawfulness and deserve the price we will pay.

21 Gus  May 31, 2014 9:24:05pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

They seem dedicated and young enough to return to their former professions. If they do they’ll be a problem for the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. I think it’s unlikely they’ll bother us much but I wouldn’t want to be a schoolgirl in their vicinity.

Hope nothing ever happened with the 500 that Bush released from GITMO.

22 Lidane  May 31, 2014 9:24:12pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

You mean we didn’t win their hearts and minds during their Gitmo rehabilitation?

Pfft. We won their hearts and minds when they greeted us as liberators.

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23 Mattand  May 31, 2014 9:27:30pm

re: #10 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I’ve just finished spending money on skin tight rubber clothing that I’ll only wear on weekends around other people. On that pleasant thought, have a good evening.

RBS
(It was a scuba wet suit. get your minds out of the gutter people).

I was going to say ‘part-time superhero’.

24 blueraven  May 31, 2014 9:27:45pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

They seem dedicated and young enough to return to their former professions. If they do they’ll be a problem for the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. I think it’s unlikely they’ll bother us much but I wouldn’t want to be a schoolgirl in their vicinity.

They have been locked up for a long time. There will probably be a lot of suspicion about them from others in their “profession”.

At some point all these people in Gitmo will have to be let go or tried. At least we got something for the SOB’s.

25 sagehen  May 31, 2014 9:28:23pm

re: #19 Lidane

Finally got around to watching Star Trek Into Darkness. Now I’m watching Attack on Titan. They’re both waaaay more interesting than the RWNJs trying to find a reason to bitch about a soldier coming home.

I only just finally watched the Star Trek Reboot… I’ll watch the sequels when they come on TV, but I wasn’t thrilled enough to want to go to the theatre. (I like Young Kirk and Young Uhura, wasn’t fond of Young Scottie, Young Chekhov, Young Sulu and Young McCoy.)

26 blueraven  May 31, 2014 9:30:05pm

re: #21 Gus

Hope nothing ever happened with the 500 that Bush released from GITMO.

That was different!

28 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 9:37:06pm

re: #25 sagehen

I only just finally watched the Star Trek Reboot… I’ll watch the sequels when they come on TV, but I wasn’t thrilled enough to want to go to the theatre. (I like Young Kirk and Young Uhura, wasn’t fond of Young Scottie, Young Chekhov, Young Sulu and Young McCoy.)

What about Young Spock?

As for me, I like the Young McCoy. The actor captures the personality of the Dee Kelley McCoy perfectly. He was a curmudgeon even as a younger man. Haha!

29 D Koch  May 31, 2014 9:42:47pm

re: #21 Gus

or the 1,027 Palestinian prisoners Netanyahu exchange for the release of Gilad Shalit in october 2011: “Arabian newspaper Al-Hayat as confirming that the prisoners released as part of the deal were collectively responsible for the killing of 569 Israelis.”

But, as always, IOKIYAR

30 Lidane  May 31, 2014 9:43:26pm

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi

As for me, I like the Young McCoy. The actor captures the personality of the Dee Kelley McCoy perfectly. He was a curmudgeon even as a younger man. Haha!

That was Karl Urban. I think he’s a great younger McCoy. Apparently, Leonard Nimoy was so overcome watching Urban’s first scenes the day they were shot that he burst into tears because they reminded Nimoy so much of Kelley.

31 Stanley Sea  May 31, 2014 9:45:21pm

Not leaving me, not leaving you.

32 Gus  May 31, 2014 9:51:15pm

re: #29 D Koch

or the 1,027 Palestinian prisoners Netanyahu exchange for the release of Gilad Shalit in october 2011: “Arabian newspaper Al-Hayat as confirming that the prisoners released as part of the deal were collectively responsible for the killing of 569 Israelis.”

But, as always, IOKIYAR

Or Likud. I can understand the concern but after releasing close to 500 which includes many who returned to terrorism suddenly returning 5 becomes the end of the world? It is a case of IOKIYAR. Then you add the ODS.

33 Shiplord Kirel  May 31, 2014 9:51:28pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

Not leaving me, not leaving you.

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It’s our new bio-drone, genetically engineered to track down and destroy patriots, Bible readers and other gun owners all over the world.

34 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 9:51:58pm

re: #30 Lidane

That was Karl Urban. I think he’s a great younger McCoy. Apparently, Leonard Nimoy was so overcome watching Urban’s first scenes the day they were shot that he burst into tears because they reminded Nimoy so much of Kelley.

I can get that. I didn’t burst into tears when I saw Urban’s first appearance, but I felt like I was watching a reincarnation of DeForest Kelley. Urban has done the best job in channeling the original character of the lot, although the others are not bad at all.

Nimoy and Kelley were close friends, as I recall.

35 sagehen  May 31, 2014 11:00:47pm

re: #28 wheat-dogghazi

What about Young Spock?

As for me, I like the Young McCoy. The actor captures the personality of the Dee Kelley McCoy perfectly. He was a curmudgeon even as a younger man. Haha!

I liked Karl Urban so much in “Almost Human”, and Zachary Quinto in “American Horror Story”… plus Zachary Quinto as himself in some Funny or Die spots and a car commercial he did with Nimoy, I had trouble suspending my disbelief to see them as these characters.

(I have this problem with a lot of actors in genre shows. It took me an entire season of Hawaii Five-0 before I stopped seeing Jin and Boomer, two whole seasons of Babylon 5 before Chekhov turned into Bester and Bobby turned into Zach).

36 freetoken  May 31, 2014 11:08:49pm

So, if you’re going to go to the hospital, do it on a weekday:

Study of 55 million people adds further evidence that patients admitted to hospital at weekends have higher mortality

37 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 11:10:42pm

re: #35 sagehen

I liked Karl Urban so much in “Almost Human”, and Zachary Quinto in “American Horror Story”… plus Zachary Quinto as himself in some Funny or Die spots and a car commercial he did with Nimoy, I had trouble suspending my disbelief to see them as these characters.

(I have this problem with a lot of actors in genre shows. It took me an entire season of Hawaii Five-0 before I stopped seeing Jin and Boomer, two whole seasons of Babylon 5 before Chekhov turned into Bester and Bobby turned into Zach).

Now, whenever I will see Sean Bean, I’ll think of Ned Stark.

38 sagehen  May 31, 2014 11:11:08pm

re: #10 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I’ve just finished spending money on skin tight rubber clothing that I’ll only wear on weekends around other people. On that pleasant thought, have a good evening.

RBS
(It was a scuba wet suit. get your minds out of the gutter people).

Hey!! I can jpg two threads at a time!! (zachary quinto in a skin tight rubber suit…)

Image: ZacharyQuinto_AmericanHorrorStory_588x329.jpg

39 wheat-dogghazi  May 31, 2014 11:15:50pm

re: #38 sagehen

Hey!! I can jpg two threads at a time!! (zachary quinto in a skin tight rubber suit…)

Image: ZacharyQuinto_AmericanHorrorStory_588x329.jpg

My female students here were very dismayed when I told them Quinto is gay.

40 piratedan  May 31, 2014 11:22:27pm

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi

I ALWAYS see him as Richard Sharpe, but hey ymmv :-)

41 freetoken  May 31, 2014 11:27:33pm

God certainly does seem to like punking Republicans, though this one finally learned and switch from the GOP to the Constitution party:

Newman follows God’s instructions into the gubernatorial fray once more

Robert Newman says he was told to run for governor by the one voice he can’t ignore.

“I was praying while taking care of the pigs,” the 70-year-old retired clinical psychologist said.

He farms on the rural property he and his wife have lived on, out on the outskirts of Redlands, just over the line into Riverside County, for 27 years.

“I said ‘Lord, I didn’t get an advanced education to take care of pigs. So what do I do with the rest of my life?’” he said.

Newman, a devout Christian, prays regularly and enthusiastically.

“The response was clear: ‘Be the governor.’”

It wasn’t a welcome instruction.

[…]

But Newman has taken God’s instructions to heart, running for governor in 2003, 2006 as a write-in candidate, 2010 and now in 2014, studying the Bible to prepare for each of his runs, especially seldom-discussed sections of the Bible discussing good governance and leadership.

His past losses don’t deter him:

“The beauty of this is that I’m not a novice at this,” Newman said. “But this is a God call. I could have gone to the Bahamas a number of times, I could have bought a John Deere (tractor)” with the money he’s spent on his efforts, instead of running for office.

[…]

Although he previously ran as a Republican, he split with them after California Republican leaders said they wanted to distance themselves from social issues, and focus on raising money for “viable” candidates who could turn the party’s fortunes around in the state.

Newman is “emphatically pro-life” and said increasingly common legalization of gay marriage is leading society down a slippery slope.

“Once we say two males can marry or two females can marry, why not three people?”

This year, Newman has been endorsed by the Constitution Party of California, although he says he and the party disagree on how to deal with California’s population of immigrants […]

42 freetoken  May 31, 2014 11:31:22pm

Yet, some remain in the GOP who are asking to be punked yet again:

Herman Cain says he might run for president again

Herman Cain, who ended his 2012 presidential campaign amid allegations of multiple affairs, said Saturday that he might run for president again in 2016.

Cain, in a speech at the Republican Leadership Conference here, brought up the prospect of another run toward the end of his speech. He then suggested he would do it if he were called by God.

“I do not know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future,” the Georgia businessman said. “And I trust in God.”

[…]

43 Kragar  May 31, 2014 11:34:29pm

re: #42 freetoken

Yet, some remain in the GOP who are asking to be punked yet again:

Herman Cain says he might run for president again

Youtube Video

44 TedStriker  Jun 1, 2014 12:06:47am

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi

Now, whenever I will see Sean Bean, I’ll think of Ned Stark.

Is there anything that Sean Bean plays in that he doesn’t end up dead before it’s over?

/rhetorical

45 Kragar  Jun 1, 2014 12:18:57am

re: #44 TedStriker

Is there anything that Sean Bean plays in that he doesn’t end up dead before it’s over?

/rhetorical

Silent Hill

46 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 1, 2014 12:58:44am

re: #41 freetoken

I find it amusing that a clinical psychologist hears a voice in his head that tells him to run for governor, not once, but four times, and doesn’t stop to wonder whether his own mind is playing tricks on him.

Then, there’s the question of why God would tell you to do something on three previous occasions, and each time let you fail. Why is the fourth time going to be any different?

God at least let Jonah win, once he sprung Jonah out of his fishy prison cell.

47 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 1:18:21am

re: #37 wheat-dogghazi

Now, whenever I will see Sean Bean, I’ll think of Ned Stark.

To me he’ll always be Boromir. And Alec Trevelyan.

48 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 1:22:18am

re: #40 piratedan

I ALWAYS see him as Richard Sharpe, but hey ymmv :-)

Never have seen Sharpe, but Sean Bean always puts a line into his roles that mentions the character in some way. It’s one of his trademarks.

49 TedStriker  Jun 1, 2014 1:33:08am

re: #47 Lidane

To me he’ll always be Boromir. And Alec Trevelyan.

Of all of the ways that Bond villians over the years have met their end, Bean’s was one of the better ones:

Fight James Bond on the top superstructure of Arecibo (even if that’s not what it was supposed to be in the film), get dropped from it head first and somehow survive that, then have the superstructure fall and crush you.

That’s pretty damned thorough…

50 Alyosha  Jun 1, 2014 1:58:20am

When even the safe return of a soldier from the evil clutches of the Taliban is shit upon by these raging paranoia-addicts…
Obama-hatred reaches a new depth of abject assholishness.

And yet this is unsurprising.

51 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 2:20:41am

re: #11 Gus

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Before I went to the link, I thought this was Putin’s reward to Snowden for being a good boy the other night w/Brian Williams.

I still think that. Because who the hell names a “journalism” award after a traitor to his country?

52 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 2:25:53am

re: #41 freetoken

God certainly does seem to like punking Republicans, though this one finally learned and switch from the GOP to the Constitution party:

Newman follows God’s instructions into the gubernatorial fray once more

This quack doesn’t know that 3 people used to be able to marry because they said God told them they could? And some still do illegally? Of course, it was only 1 man and as many women as he wanted. Tell him to ask a Mormon.

53 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 2:40:10am

I hope this is a solid arrest.

French arrested suspect in Brussels Jewish centre attack

Alleged killer arrested for conducting attack on Jewish centre in Brussels that killed three

telegraph.co.uk

54 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 3:02:05am

If Snowald had known about this, it would have been out in a NY minute.

Hagel: Captive’s life was in danger

bigstory.ap.org

BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan (AP) — U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Sunday the military operation to free Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl from the Taliban in exchange for the release of five Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detainees was not relayed to Congress because officials believed the soldier’s life was in danger.

(snip)

“He said it was the unanimous consensus of the National Security Council, and the president has the authority to order such a release under Article 2 of the Constitution.

“Only a handful of people knew about the operation and Hagel said “we couldn’t afford any leaks anywhere, for obvious reasons.” More

And the govt has secrets because?

55 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 1, 2014 3:22:48am

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

Before I went to the link, I thought this was Putin’s reward to Snowden for being a good boy the other night w/Brian Williams.

I still think that. Because who the hell names a “journalism” award after a traitor to his country?

“Ekho Moskvy” (“The Echo of Moscow”) is special in that it is owned by the state (through Gazprom), and yet has a decidedly liberal take on things most of the time. It is certainly hated by the national-patriots, who have nicknamed it “Ekho matsy” (“The Echo of Matzo”). So if Snowden does take part in this, it will certainly be interesting whether he will be willing to give out his award to a journalist from the opposition, and if so, what the subsequent reactions might be.

56 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 3:33:16am

Lebanon has told more than a million Syrian refugees they will lose their refugee status if they cross back into Syria - @Reuters
End of alert

57 freetoken  Jun 1, 2014 4:12:53am

We live in a crazy world:

Video: Shocking moment mother is murdered in McDonalds by religious cult trying to recruit her

Wu Ting was set upon by the gang at a McDonald’s restaurant when she refused to give them her telephone number

[…]

Wu Ting, 23, is believed to have refused to give her telephone number to members of the All-Powerful Spirit cult moments before she was smashed round the head with a mop.

People watch on helplessly as the attack continues with the young woman lying on the ground as the man who appears to be attacking her is egged on by fellow members of the cult.

Nobody stepped in to help the woman, instead standing around before leaving the McDonald’s before standing outside and watching through the window.

[…]

In the video a woman can be heard shouting “beat her to death” while someone else says “call the police”.

[…]

After the arrest police also recovered pamphlets that the group had been distributing about their religion. The McDonald’s is located across the street from a local police station.

[…]

The All Powerful Spirit cult was founded in the northeastern province of Heilongjiang in the early 1990s and later spread to the country’s eastern provinces. The cults philosophy is based on a distorted reading of the Christian Bible and it was banned under the country’s corporals in 1995.

Seventeen of its members had been arrested in Beijing in December 2012 for harassing people in a public park and claiming the world was coming to an end.

[…]

I suppose gun fetishists would argue that if they were there with their rifles and pistols that they would have stopped this.

58 freetoken  Jun 1, 2014 4:17:25am

Burp:

Youtube Video

59 Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2014 4:27:02am

re: #57 freetoken

We live in a crazy world:

Video: Shocking moment mother is murdered in McDonalds by religious cult trying to recruit her

I suppose gun fetishists would argue that if they were there with their rifles and pistols that they would have stopped this.

Here’s some info about that particular doomsday cult.

en.wikipedia.org

They’re really out there. Here’s a little more:

Zhao Wei Shan was formerly a member of The Shouters, another cult offshoot of Christianity that was founded in the 1960s (and banned by the Chinese government in 1983). He broke away from them, starting a new group called the “Church of the Everlasting Foundation.” At some point, he met a woman from the central Henan province called Deng. He eventually came to believe that Deng was actually Christ returning as a woman. Calling her The Almighty God, Zhao and Deng formed The Church of the True God, which later became the Eastern Lightning (and Deng was now referred to as Lightning Deng). (They seem to change their names so much you’d think something shady was going on.)

Eastern Lightning considers Deng the third incarnation of God, the first being Jehova (Old Testament) and the second Jesus (New Testament). They have a book called Lightning from the Orient, which further explains the female Christ’s purpose, which includes defeating the Devil. They use extreme methods to get converts, including kidnapping, torturing, and brainwashing.

oddculture.com

60 Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2014 4:50:39am

Yesterday was Walt Whitman’s birthday, and you missed the party. There was cake.

⸨web.mail.comcast.net I M A G E ⸩

61 andres  Jun 1, 2014 4:51:15am

re: #11 Gus

I think it’s missing the mic and the antenna to allow Putin to hear them better…

62 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 5:13:14am

re: #49 TedStriker

Of all of the ways that Bond villians over the years have met their end, Bean’s was one of the better ones:

Fight James Bond on the top superstructure of Arecibo (even if that’s not what it was supposed to be in the film), get dropped from it head first and somehow survive that, then have the superstructure fall and crush you.

That’s pretty damned thorough…

And unlike most of the others, he actually had a backstory that made a lifelong grudge against the UK seem possible (his parents were Cossacks who’d sided with the Germans in WWII and who were handed over to the Red Army by the British at war’s end).

63 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 5:16:54am

re: #57 freetoken

What’s truly sick is the way other people just stood around watching. It bothers me a great deal when that happens.

64 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 1, 2014 5:17:41am

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

What’s truly sick is the way other people just stood around watching. It bothers me a great deal when that happens.

en.wikipedia.org

65 Bulworth  Jun 1, 2014 5:22:16am

re: #15 Lidane

*headdesk*

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Reminder: These assholes would be celebrating if POTUS was a white Republican.

Why Obama leave our prisoner in Afghanistan to DIE why no Rescue why didn’t he send in the military to….oh wait….

66 Bulworth  Jun 1, 2014 5:25:54am

re: #3 RealityBasedSteve

Of course the Freepers are greeting the return of our soldier with all the good grace and class that they always display.

I can’t go there anymore for more than 5 minutes at the most. It just angers / saddens / scares me so much that I want to scream and punch a wall.

RBS

I don’t even get what the freepers are trying to say here. You’d think they might have been crying SCANDAL with him being held for 5 years and How come Obmam no rescue he hate America??!??!!?.

67 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 5:30:37am

Oh my. Something is afoot.

NATO defence ministers to discuss temporarily reinforcing their forces in Poland when they meet in Brussels, German government says - @Reuters
End of alert

68 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 5:31:37am

This doesn’t mean it will stop.

Coalition of Pakistani religious leaders issues edict declaring ‘honor killings’ to be a ‘highly condemnable’ and ‘un-Islamic’ - @AJELive
Read more on aljazeera.com

69 Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2014 5:34:24am

Mike Gousha from WISN will be pitching softballs to Gov. Walker this morning on his show. No doubt to provide cover so Walker can get in front of the WSJ thing before Monday.

70 urbanmeemaw  Jun 1, 2014 5:34:51am

re: #54 Justanotherhuman

I’m assuming the US engaged in intelligence gathering to get this information.

OH NOOOOO!!!!!! FREEDUMZ VIOLATED!!! DUHRONEZ!!!!!

71 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 5:41:36am

The question is already being raised.

Is Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl a hero or a deserter?

cbsnews.com

“A transcript of radio intercepts, publicly released through Wikileaks, indicates that Bergdahl, then 23, was captured while sitting in a makeshift latrine.

“We were attacking the post he was sitting,” according to a radio intercept of a conversation among insurgents. “He had no gun with him. … They have all (the) Americans, ANA (Afghan National Army), helicopters, the planes are looking for him. Can you guys make a video of him and announce it all over Afghanistan that we have one of the Americans?”

“Rolling Stone magazine quoted emails Bergdahl is said to have sent to his parents that suggest he was disillusioned with America’s mission in Afghanistan, had lost faith in the U.S. Army’s mission there and was considering desertion.” More

That story was written by Michael Hastings.

rollingstone.com

72 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 5:42:49am

Terrorist attack at the Jewish Museum: arrested man, Mehdi Nemmouche is believed to have been in Syria in 2013 with jjihadist groups

man with suspected ties to Islamic radicals in Syria has been arrested by French police in connection with the terrorist attack at the Jewish Museum of Belgium in Brussels on 24 May in which four people were killed.

The French suspect, 29-year-old Mehdi Nemmouche, a native of Roubaix in northern France, was arrested in the southern French city of Marseille in possession of a Kalashnikov rifle and a handgun similar to the ones used in the museum attack.

73 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 5:47:42am

re: #69 Amory Blaine

Mike Gousha from WISN will be pitching softballs to Gov. Walker this morning on his show. No doubt to provide cover so Walker can get in front of the WSJ thing before Monday.

The Journal is irritated that Walker isn’t going to fight things out after the favorable court decision earlier this month. It’s editorial board wants Walker to gain a full vindication for Americans For Prosperity (AFP).

Gov. Walker, for his part, sees (correctly in my eyes) the continuing discussion of the John Doe investigation as a distraction / minor scandal that can only hurt him as his reelection campaign goes forward. Thus he wants to settle the case, pay a fine if he has to and move on. He sees the court decision as giving his legal team crucial leverage with which to cut a deal, which it likely is. Prosecutors, like most trial lawyers, tend to prefer a settlement to a gallant defeat.

Most likely, the John Doe investigation will involve the Walker campaign and AFP paying moderate fines and agreeing to some disclosure and/or non-coordination rules going forward. Partisans on both sides will not like this, but it is important to remember that settlement is the normal result for legal proceedings in this country. Hollywood aside, neither side usually wants to fight things through to their conclusion.

74 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 5:53:41am

In spite of the quoted US intelligence gathered and quoted in the story about Bowe being kidnapped by the Taliban, the Wikileaks transmission, and the fact that the AP could not independently confirm the content of the emails allegedly sent by Bowe to his parents in which it is alleged he talked about “desertion”, Hastings continued to push his narrative that Bowe was disgusted with the US, and his own, presence in Afghanistan and giving it as the reason he wound up as a Taliban prisoner.

rollingstone.com

75 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 5:54:40am

I’m making whole wheat vegan challah today. What can I use to brush the crust for a shiny glazed topping instead of the usual egg wash?

76 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 5:57:40am

re: #75 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m making whole wheat vegan challah today. What can I use to brush the crust for a shiny glazed topping instead of the usual egg wash?

How in the world can you make real challah without eggs. : )

77 PhillyPretzel  Jun 1, 2014 5:57:47am

re: #75 Pie-onist Overlord

The challah sounds great but I have no idea what can be used as a substitute for the egg wash.

78 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 5:59:40am

re: #76 Justanotherhuman

How in the world can you make real challah without eggs. : )

My son is coming with his family for the Shavuot holiday and my DIL is vegan. I already baked a bunch of challah that is full of eggs.

79 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 6:00:33am

I did some Googling and they suggest using a sugar syrup wash.

80 A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2014 6:01:44am

re: #79 Pie-onist Overlord

I was going to suggest that or maybe diluted honey. Not sure how much shine you’d get, but it would make a nice brown crust.

81 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 6:03:01am

I thought I knew how to prepare vegan: I’ll just make everything pareve! But then I forgot about the chicken fetuses.

82 PhillyPretzel  Jun 1, 2014 6:06:28am

Cook’s Country (aka Cook’s Illustrated) only suggests using egg. :(
This is there answer to a reader:
Pie recipes call for egg washes of all sorts. Does it matter what I brush my pie crust with?

Bakers brush double-crust pies with egg wash to improve browning and lend a shiny finish. As you’ve noticed, different recipes call for different formulations. We made a list of the typical methods and put them all to the test. We started by making three double-crust pies and brushing the top crust of one with a beaten egg, one with a beaten egg white, and one with beaten yolk. The crust brushed with egg white was still dull and pale when the pie was done. Yolk alone made the crust very shiny, but by the time the pie was fully cooked, it was too dark. Moreover, the yolk was too thick to spread evenly, leaving deep brush marks and bald spots. A whole egg spread evenly and browned well but lacked the shine of the yolk-brushed crust. Some recipes call for thinning egg wash with water, milk, or cream. We tried each of these in combination with yolks, whites, and whole eggs. None produced the glossy crust we were looking for, although both milk and cream sped browning. In the end, we found that brushing the crust with a whole egg plus one yolk gave us both a glossy finish and perfect browning.

THE BOTTOM LINE Brushing pie crust with a whole egg and one yolk, lightly beaten, yields a shiny finish and moderate browning speed.

83 A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2014 6:08:45am

re: #74 Justanotherhuman

And there’s a few people in the comments over there at RS that claim to be on the inside in one form or another who just KNOW that this kid was a traitor. One of them seems to have gone to every outlet he could to post that he had the inside scoop because he was in the same unit as Bergdahl. So this is going to be dragged out and out and out as Obama “paling around with terrorists”. Goody.

I guess the next step, if all this stuff about Bergdahl is true, would be a court martial, right?

84 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 6:10:15am

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

Cook’s Country (aka Cook’s Illustrated) only suggests using egg. :(
This is there answer to a reader:
Pie recipes call for egg washes of all sorts. Does it matter what I brush my pie crust with?

“Pie and Pastry Bible” also commands you to use ONLY BUTTER in making pie crust because Crisco is just to inferior & lame.

85 PhillyPretzel  Jun 1, 2014 6:13:15am

re: #84 Pie-onist Overlord

I think Mary Ann Esposito on Ciao Italia used melted fruit jelly once on a fruit tart. That may work on challah.

86 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 6:13:46am

#TCOT as usual, who claim to have so much love & respect for ARE TROOPS, seething with rage of the release of Bowie Bergdahl:

87 Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2014 6:15:04am

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

That favorable ruling is going to be overturned.

88 Bulworth  Jun 1, 2014 6:17:47am

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

#TCOT as usual, who claim to have so much love & respect for ARE TROOPS, seething with rage of the release of Bowie Bergdahl:

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Just when I think Freepernation has reached max derp they just keep raising the bar

89 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 6:17:56am

re: #83 A Mom Anon

And there’s a few people in the comments over there at RS that claim to be on the inside in one form or another who just KNOW that this kid was a traitor. One of them seems to have gone to every outlet he could to post that he had the inside scoop because he was in the same unit as Bergdahl. So this is going to be dragged out and out and out as Obama “paling around with terrorists”. Goody.

I guess the next step, if all this stuff about Bergdahl is true, would be a court martial, right?

The WH says no, that even if the evidence was against Bergdahl, he’s suffered enough in the 5 yrs he was the Taliban’s prisoner. That was in one of the stories I linked, but I can’t remember which.

90 Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2014 6:18:26am

re: #83 A Mom Anon

And there’s a few people in the comments over there at RS that claim to be on the inside in one form or another who just KNOW that this kid was a traitor. One of them seems to have gone to every outlet he could to post that he had the inside scoop because he was in the same unit as Bergdahl. So this is going to be dragged out and out and out as Obama “paling around with terrorists”. Goody.

I guess the next step, if all this stuff about Bergdahl is true, would be a court martial, right?

Next would be an investigation and review, something the RWNJs think superfluous.

91 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 6:24:11am

re: #87 Amory Blaine

That favorable ruling is going to be overturned.

Don’t be very sure of that. But there is a decent chance it will be and that’s a factor motivating the Walker campaign to settle. Scott Walker does not want the ruling overturned in the fall, which would inflict a ‘late hit’ which might be hard to recover from. Better to settle and not run the risk.

92 Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2014 6:25:30am

This site is a repository of RWNJ memes.

93 Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2014 6:26:25am

A new Marquette University poll has Burke dead even with Walker.

94 Dr. Matt  Jun 1, 2014 6:28:42am

Bergdahl is ashamed to be an American? How is that any different from the Teabaggers who have been saying the exact same thing because our country elected a Black Democrat as POTUS?

95 A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2014 6:29:09am

re: #90 Decatur Deb

I’m trying to figure out where these emails are, I’ve read that his parents had released them when the initial negotiations for his release started and that there was no proof they existed, or that he had sent his belongings, including his uniform home. It can’t be both. I guess the best thing is to wait and see what comes next. I would think the military would have the final say on what happens now.

I just hope Our Stupid Media can leave this family alone for awhile, but I get the feeling that they’re already camped out in the town they live in. I’ll be shocked if they don’t end up harassed by wingnuts before it’s over.

96 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 1, 2014 6:30:28am

Randall Gross,

This is great news. I’m glad that he’ll finally be able to see his family again. 2009 to 2014, that means he’s be a prisoner of war for about five years.

97 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 6:32:19am

re: #74 Justanotherhuman

In spite of the quoted US intelligence gathered and quoted in the story about Bowe being kidnapped by the Taliban, the Wikileaks transmission, and the fact that the AP could not independently confirm the content of the emails allegedly sent by Bowe to his parents in which it is alleged he talked about “desertion”, Hastings continued to push his narrative that Bowe was disgusted with the US, and his own, presence in Afghanistan and giving it as the reason he wound up as a Taliban prisoner.

rollingstone.com

Soldiers throughout history have bitched and complained so that’s not new but it does sound like his unit was dysfunctional and it’s entirely possible his own actions led to his capture. I’m not sure what disciplinary action from the military he might be in for, his capture and release used up a lot of valuable resources but I think he’s been through enough already.

98 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 6:35:17am

re: #94 Dr. Matt

Bergdahl is ashamed to be an American? How is that any different from the Teabaggers who have been saying the exact same thing because our country elected a Black Democrat as POTUS?

It’s one thing to be ashamed of your country, another to be ashamed of what it does in your name, and the actions of those who represent this country.

RWers do the former and some people do the latter.

I’ve disagreed, and even been disgusted, with many things I saw reported in Iraq and Afghanistan, even done by ordinary soldiers and their commanders, but I’ve never been ashamed of the country as a whole.

99 freetoken  Jun 1, 2014 6:38:18am

Desperate people:

7 Die in Cambodia After Looking for Money in Well

Seven people died from a lack of oxygen after climbing down a well in Cambodia to retrieve about 75 cents, police and relatives said Sunday.

The incident happened late Saturday in a remote area of the northwestern province of Siem Reap when an 11-year-old boy and six other people went into the well to collect 3,000 riel (75 cents). The boy’s older sister, Che Chhan, said their father had accidentally dropped the money when taking water.

She said her 13-year-old sister and 15-year-old brother also died, as well as four of her neighbors.

“My youngest brother thought the amount of money was huge for poor people like us,” Che Chhan said by phone.

[…]

100 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 6:38:48am

re: #93 Amory Blaine

A new Marquette University poll has Burke dead even with Walker.

It also has other numbers that are good news for the governor: His favorable/unfavorable numbers are noticablely better and 52% of those polled say Wisconsin is on the ‘right track’ versus 42 who say its on the ‘wrong track’.

Moreover, 32% of that new poll identified as Dems, as opposed to 27% in the previous poll Marquette ran. I don’t think the Wisconsin electorate moved 5% in party identification, so the question is: Which poll sampled Democrats incorrectly?

101 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 6:40:52am

Cancer survivors: More than 14.5 million in US

bigstory.ap.org

CHICAGO (AP) — It’s National Cancer Survivors Day, and chances are good that you know at least one of them.

“Cancer survivors now number more than 14.5 million in the United States and are expected to grow to 19 million over the next decade, a new report finds. More cancers are cured, more people are living longer with the disease and people are living longer in general, which boosts the number of cases and survivors because the risk of developing cancer rises with age.

(snip)

“The American Cancer Society’s report was released Sunday during the annual meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the world’s largest group of specialists who treat the disease.” More

102 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 1, 2014 6:42:38am

re: #100 Dark_Falcon

Moreover, 32% of that new poll identified as Dems, as opposed to 27% in the previous poll Marquette ran. I don’t think the Wisconsin electorate moved 5% in party identification, so the question is: Which poll sampled Democrats incorrectly?

Neither of them sampled incorrectly. You expect differences in identification between polls. If they were always the same, then that’d show a problem with sampling.

Am I misunderstanding you in some way?

103 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 6:44:45am

A nice post from Patton Oswalt

“Tyrants conduct monologues above a million solitudes.”

104 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 6:48:26am

Pie fight continues: I’ll be back when you stop telling each other to STFU

105 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 6:48:47am

Of course, his supporters have flooded the comments…

You might note that older respondents tend to think he committed a crime, while younger ones think he did something “heroic”.

There’s something to be said about age, experience and knowing something about the world. Of course, a 73 yr old would think that and I have plenty of evidence that 23 yr-olds think I serve nothing-burgers, too. : )

106 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 6:55:00am

re: #105 Justanotherhuman

Of course, his supporters have flooded the comments…

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You might note that older respondents tend to think he committed a crime, while younger ones think he did something “heroic”.

There’s something to be said about age, experience and knowing something about the world. Of course, a 73 yr old would think that and I have plenty of evidence that 23 yr-olds think I serve nothing-burgers, too. : )

You forgot to tell Killgore and I to get off your lawn. :D

107 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 6:57:47am

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

You forgot to tell Killgore and I to get off your lawn. :D

Younger people are also far more committed to the internet, too, and can get their messages and memes out like lightning.

Still, lightning hits lawns, too, on which you might not want to be standing.

108 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 7:06:12am

re: #92 Amory Blaine

This site is a repository of RWNJ memes.

I’m collecting the 10 Stupidest Wingnut Memes for a listicle which I will post here.

109 darthstar  Jun 1, 2014 7:10:01am

Okay…turns out this Snowden/Greenwald defender, according to his profile, is a well seasoned idiot with a background in media…and is a bitcoin fan, so I added that to my mockery:

110 Belafon  Jun 1, 2014 7:14:49am

re: #102 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

“Unskew the polls!”

111 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:14:49am

re: #109 darthstar

Okay…turns out this Snowden/Greenwald defender, according to his profile, is a well seasoned idiot with a background in media…and is a bitcoin fan, so I added that to my mockery:

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Loves RT, too.

The Corbett Report | Why We Must Oppose Bilderberg (Video & Transcript) >>> ow.ly @abbymartin @MaxKeiser @stacyherbert

Wonder how many times he’s been sacked?

112 Lancelot Link  Jun 1, 2014 7:16:20am

re: #109 darthstar

So that character’s pretending he isn’t being manipulated by certain corporate-sponsored media figures?

113 Archangelus  Jun 1, 2014 7:19:14am

re: #75 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m making whole wheat vegan challah today. What can I use to brush the crust for a shiny glazed topping instead of the usual egg wash?

Recipe i found in Hebrew for a vegan Challah a while back mentions the following for substituting eggs..

Ingredients:
1/4 cup white sugar
3 spoons water
1 spoon olive oil
A dash of salt
1 spoon cornflower
Optional - some sesame

The “Egg” for the brushing is prepared as follows:
Microwave the sugar and water in a small bowl for about 2 minutes until the sugar melts. Add the olive oil, salt and cornflower and stir for a few minutes until the cornflower is absorbed and the mix has a yellowish color (kinda like a real egg). Optional: add sesame to the mix if desired

114 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:20:33am

Gerard Ange jumped in the Snowden fray last July over at The Guardian.

id.theguardian.com

115 Archangelus  Jun 1, 2014 7:21:23am

re: #113 Archangelus

Either way, let me know how it comes out - Inquiring minds that occasionally have to prepare vegan for friends and family want to know! :)

116 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 7:22:10am

re: #110 Belafon

“Unskew the polls!”

I was just about to say that. There is never a uniform voter breakdown between polls, the electorate does not stay static from day to day. Hell, if you’d polled me 5 years ago, I’d have told you I was a die-hard Republican. Today, I’d sooner be shot dead than vote Republican again.

A singular poll, or even a pair of polls, will never show you the whole picture. You gotta go by the trend, weighing as many polls in a given period of time as possible and accounting for variables like turnout. In this particular case, Walker’s numbers have been trending downward for awhile now, so arguing that one poll showing a dead heat race is questionable based upon voter breakdown seems to missing the forest for the trees.

117 darthstar  Jun 1, 2014 7:24:15am

re: #114 Justanotherhuman

Gerard Ange jumped in the Snowden fray last July over at The Guardian.

id.theguardian.com

They didn’t canonize him as a saint, so that proves beyond a doubt that they’re guilty!

This guy’s an idiot conspiracist.

118 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:24:39am

Suspect detained in France over Brussels Jewish Museum killings had gone to Syria, Prosecutor says - @AP
End of alert

119 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 7:26:31am

re: #116 Targetpractice

I was just about to say that. There is never a uniform voter breakdown between polls, the electorate does not stay static from day to day. Hell, if you’d polled me 5 years ago, I’d have told you I was a die-hard Republican. Today, I’d sooner be shot dead than vote Republican again.

A singular poll, or even a pair of polls, will never show you the whole picture. You gotta go by the trend, weighing as many polls in a given period of time as possible and accounting for variables like turnout. In this particular case, Walker’s numbers have been trending downward for awhile now, so arguing that one poll showing a dead heat race is questionable based upon voter breakdown seems to missing the forest for the trees.

Actually, the new poll has his favorable numbers up from the previous poll. The other thing to say is that the challenger often gets a boost after winning the primary due to the media attention that brings and due to more people ‘tuning in’ to the election.

120 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 7:26:55am

re: #115 Archangelus

Either way, let me know how it comes out - Inquiring minds that occasionally have to prepare vegan for friends and family want to know! :)

Thanks! I’m looking for something simpler but this will do.

121 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:29:49am

I was a vegan for a couple of months back in the ’80s and was always tired.

Too many carbs, also, and no protein except for some form of bean (incl tofu) and rice.

Not something I’d want to do again, even though today I still won’t eat any kind of mammal, just birds and fish.

122 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:32:18am

Cruz needs some lessons.

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on prisoner swap: ‘I do not think the way to deal with terrorists is through releasing other violent terrorists’ - @chrisdonovan
End of alert

Maybe we should have traded arms for Bergdahl, eh, Ted?

123 makeitstop  Jun 1, 2014 7:34:28am

Well, the RWNJs got their talking points all in a row already. I’m seeing ‘it was probably illegal’ and ‘he was probably a traitor’ all over Facebook this morning.

‘Support the troops,’ my ass. They’ll throw an American POW straight under the bus to feed their Obama hate. SMMFH.

124 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 7:34:37am

Stay classy TCOT

125 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 7:35:55am

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the new poll has his favorable numbers up from the previous poll. The other thing to say is that the challenger often gets a boost after winning the primary due to the media attention that brings and due to more people ‘tuning in’ to the election.

Walker’s favorable may be up, but the man’s been alternating between a dead-heat and a small lead for weeks now. Even RCP’s calling it a toss-up. And the first time Rasmussen weighed in on the race was in March, and that poll showed a dead-heat. Perhaps it’s because, this time around, Scotty can’t question the need for an election or blame it on the unions.

126 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:38:01am

So fucking what?

127 A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2014 7:38:06am

re: #121 Justanotherhuman

I think the options for vegans are a bit better now, but I can’t go the full route. I used to work with twins who were serious vegans, they were always sick. Colds, flu, allergies, complaining of fatigue, etc.

I think like anything else it’s about balance. Animal protein isn’t bad for us, but too much is. Like too many grain based carbs and sugars are in excess. I can’t imagine life without the occasional burger or a nice piece of fried chicken.

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 7:39:51am

HAV SUM MOAR CLASS WINGNUTS

129 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 7:40:16am

re: #126 Justanotherhuman

So fucking what?

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I’d be shocked…if we didn’t already have computers and cellphones slowly introducing us to the idea that biometric scans as an everyday thing. When you can sign into your computer with your webcam or unlock your phone with a thumbprint, the idea that the NSA is collecting pictures of our faces loses its shock value.

130 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 7:41:27am
131 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 7:41:55am

re: #124 Pie-onist Overlord

Stay classy TCOT

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132 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:42:27am

re: #127 A Mom Anon

I think the options for vegans are a bit better now, but I can’t go the full route. I used to work with twins who were serious vegans, they were always sick. Colds, flu, allergies, complaining of fatigue, etc.

I think like anything else it’s about balance. Animal protein isn’t bad for us, but too much is. Like too many grain based carbs and sugars are in excess. I can’t imagine life without the occasional burger or a nice piece of fried chicken.

Turkey burgers and no fried (except the occasional french fry) for me. I still cook my eggs in butter, though. : )

My grandson has no problems with turkey burgers or whatever else I cook (and I use ground turkey instead of beef in a lot of recipes—it’s great in chili, for instance, and it’s food I’ll eat, too). He tends to be overweight and of course I don’t have any say-so over his outside choices or portions except keeping my mouth shut, but can make a little difference.

133 Romantic Heretic  Jun 1, 2014 7:44:51am

re: #19 Lidane

Finally got around to watching Star Trek Into Darkness. Now I’m watching Attack on Titan. They’re both waaaay more interesting than the RWNJs trying to find a reason to bitch about a soldier coming home.

Attack on Titan is a deeply disturbing series. I’m enjoying it, but I can only watch about one episode every two weeks.

134 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 7:47:04am

re: #132 Justanotherhuman

and I use ground turkey instead of beef in a lot of recipes—it’s great in chili
We actually prefer turkey chili to beef, but I don’t use ground turkey. I buy turkey thighs, take the skin off, boil them till cooked through then chop up the meat to bite size chunks

135 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:47:17am

re: #129 Targetpractice

I’d be shocked…if we didn’t already have computers and cellphones slowly introducing us to the idea that biometric scans as an everyday thing. When you can sign into your computer with your webcam or unlock your phone with a thumbprint, the idea that the NSA is collecting pictures of our faces loses its shock value.

I don’t think the NSA wants photos of people’s vaginas and penises, either, unless they’re on some wanted criminal’s pages along w/his or her photo.

People put all kinds of shit out there on the internet, and then they complain because the NSA is using facial recognition to catch criminals?

136 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 7:47:59am

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

And that guy gets Israel wrong, too:

We also have this ugly post, the puts part of the blame of mass shootings on women for not “putting out”:

137 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:49:50am

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

And that guy gets Israel wrong, too:

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These misogynistic assholes are disgusting.

138 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 7:50:56am

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

And that guy gets Israel wrong, too:

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Yet another nimrod who sees a picture of someone walking around with a gun slung over their shoulder in Israel and assumes that’s just because the laws there are so friendly to gun owners that nobody things twice about it.

139 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:54:47am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Yet another nimrod who sees a picture of someone walking around with a gun slung over their shoulder in Israel and assumes that’s just because the laws there are so friendly to gun owners that nobody things twice about it.

I thought that photo was found to be ‘shopped a while back.

140 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 7:58:08am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Yet another nimrod who sees a picture of someone walking around with a gun slung over their shoulder in Israel and assumes that’s just because the laws there are so friendly to gun owners that nobody things twice about it.

I know, but it was the second picture that really gets me steamed. It puts the onus on women for when men misbehave. Frankly, as a man I’m offended by the idea that I might be so hormonal and primitive that I’d kill people because I couldn’t have sex. As a human being, I’m offended by this asshole refusing to put the chief blame of mass shootings where it belongs: On those people (almost entirely men) who commit them.

141 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 7:58:57am

re: #134 sattv4u2

and I use ground turkey instead of beef in a lot of recipes—it’s great in chili
We actually prefer turkey chili to beef, but I don’t use ground turkey. I buy turkey thighs, take the skin off, boil them till cooked through then chop up the meat to bite size chunks

I usually buy a huge package of thighs and/or legs and cook them on the grill. After a few days of BBQ turkey I pull the meat off the bone and make Chilli with the leftovers. Adds a great smokey flavor to the chilli.

142 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 7:59:23am

re: #126 Justanotherhuman

Also, people are asking, Doesn’t Laura Poitras work for The Intercept? Why is she publishing something in the NYT?

Also, ask James Risen about Wen Ho Lee.

143 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 7:59:57am

re: #141 Killgore Trout

I usually buy a huge package of thighs and/or legs and cook them on the grill. After a few days of BBQ turkey I pull the meat off the bone and make Chilli with the leftovers. Adds a great smokey flavor to the chilli.

Yeah. I’ve been meaning to try throwing the thighs on the grill. Next time for sure

144 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:01:38am

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

I know, but it was the second picture that really gets me steamed. It puts the onus on women for when men misbehave. Frankly, as a man I’m offended by the idea that I might be so hormonal and primitive that I’d kill people because I couldn’t have sex. As a human being, I’m offended by this asshole refusing to put the chief blame of mass shootings where it belongs: On those people (almost entirely men) who commit them.

I personally just roll my eyes. Seems like the list of “reasons” for gun violence are getting longer all the time, but the word that never appears on that list is “Guns.”

145 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 1, 2014 8:02:24am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Yet another nimrod who sees a picture of someone walking around with a gun slung over their shoulder in Israel and assumes that’s just because the laws there are so friendly to gun owners that nobody things twice about it.

Well, he’s not a real Man unless he’s wearing a nifty hat, like that Kory dude.

146 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 8:02:42am

re: #143 sattv4u2

Yeah. I’ve been meaning to try throwing the thighs on the grill. Next time for sure

I grind my own spice mix but you can buy jerk season mix at the store. It’s amazingly good.
Jamaican Jerk Turkey Thighs

147 A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2014 8:04:43am

re: #140 Dark_Falcon

Dark Falcon, I think you might be a feminist. What you just said there was spot on and thank you for saying it.

149 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 8:05:18am

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I grind my own spice mix but you can buy jerk season mix at the store. It’s amazingly good.
Jamaican Jerk Turkey Thighs

Well, if anyone knows about making a jerk out of themselves it would be you

Wait ,, that didn’t sound right (except to some here)
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150 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 8:06:11am

re: #147 A Mom Anon

Dark Falcon, I think you might be a feminist. What you just said there was spot on and thank you for saying it.

I have it on good authority that he doesn’t shave his armpits!
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151 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:07:51am

Remember when we wondered about some of the MIA in Vietnam? How we often times would wonder if they stayed or defected to the other side? And how we still thought about those MIA in Vietnam, regardless of cause?

152 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:07:57am

It’s morning in my part of the world. The birds are still vocal.

you?

153 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:08:10am

re: #151 Gus

Remember when we wondered about some of the MIA in Vietnam? How we often times would wonder if they stayed or defected to the other side? And how we still thought about those MIA in Vietnam, regardless of cause?

I still do

154 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:09:43am

re: #150 sattv4u2

I have it on good authority that he doesn’t shave his armpits!
/

Feminists do that?

155 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 8:10:30am

re: #151 Gus

Remember when we wondered about some of the MIA in Vietnam? How we often times would wonder if they stayed or defected to the other side? And how we still thought about those MIA in Vietnam, regardless of cause?

Childhood friend of my older sister is an MIA in Vietnam so yeah,,,, I still think of him

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 1, 2014 8:11:12am

re: #152 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning in my part of the world. The birds are still vocal.

you?

Jackhammer work outside until after 2am last night.

157 A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2014 8:11:55am

re: #151 Gus

Exactly. I still remember those metal bracelets people had with the names of the missing on them. I don’t remember anyone questioning their patriotism.

158 makeitstop  Jun 1, 2014 8:13:15am

re: #156 Feline Fearless Leader

Jackhammer work outside until after 2am last night.

Some stupid landscaper was two doors down from us at 8:20 this morning, despite the noise ordinance prohibiting lawn mowers and such before 10 AM on Sundays.

My wife was ready to go out and beat the dude about the head.

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 1, 2014 8:13:20am

And I’m sure these same idiots are all over Rolling Thunder for being unpatriotic as well.
//

160 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:16:55am

When I hear the suggestions to that Bergdahl “deserted” or “converted,” all I hear is wingnuts trying their damnedest to spin this as a total loss for the President, trying to argue that he let 5 terrorists go in exchange for somebody who wasn’t “worth” the price the paid.

161 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:17:22am

re: #159 Feline Fearless Leader

And I’m sure these same idiots are all over Rolling Thunder for being unpatriotic as well.
//

Rolling Thunder does not endorse OAS.

162 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 1, 2014 8:18:08am

re: #160 Targetpractice

When I hear the suggestions to that Bergdahl “deserted” or “converted,” all I hear is wingnuts trying their damnedest to spin this as a total loss for the President, trying to argue that he let 5 terrorists go in exchange for somebody who wasn’t “worth” the price the paid.

As others here have said, the same wingnuts would be falling over themselves to praise a white Republican who had done the same thing.

163 makeitstop  Jun 1, 2014 8:19:37am

re: #160 Targetpractice

When I hear the suggestions to that Bergdahl “deserted” or “converted,” all I hear is wingnuts trying their damnedest to spin this as a total loss for the President, trying to argue that he let 5 terrorists go in exchange for somebody who wasn’t “worth” the price the paid.

Meanwhile, I’m seeing a meme saying that we should invade Mexico to get back the Marine who got himself arrested down there, and blaming Obama for being weak for not doing that.

Wingnut logic - 31 flavors of fucked up derangement.

165 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 8:22:23am

re: #157 A Mom Anon

Exactly. I still remember those metal bracelets people had with the names of the missing on them. I don’t remember anyone questioning their patriotism.

Yes, but this man got rescued as part of a prisoner swap done by the administration of a black Democrat. And his wandering off base showed a lack of appreciation of the fact that Afghans are scary and Muslim.

If he had been a True Patriottm, he would have served out his tour, come home and helped build a militia to fight by against Obamunist Tyranny.

Note: This how some wingnuts actually think.

166 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:22:43am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi

As others here have said, the same wingnuts would be falling over themselves to praise a white Republican who had done the same thing.

You can hear it now: “The President didn’t forget him! He got him back without seeking Congress’ approval! This kid deserves our thanks for his service!”

Instead, we get: “He’s a fucking traitor! Deserter! The President just put us in more danger!”

167 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:22:52am

re: #156 Feline Fearless Leader

Jackhammer work outside until after 2am last night.

Ah, how did you become so fortunate?

168 Killgore Trout  Jun 1, 2014 8:23:04am

re: #160 Targetpractice

When I hear the suggestions to that Bergdahl “deserted” or “converted,” all I hear is wingnuts trying their damnedest to spin this as a total loss for the President, trying to argue that he let 5 terrorists go in exchange for somebody who wasn’t “worth” the price the paid.

you can safely ignore most of the partisan noise. The same people who hate Reagan for his deal are praising Obama’s move. If the positions were reversed here it would just be different people making the same complaint. Was it a good move or not? I don’t know but like anything else it’s mostly just the same old partisan bickering and really has little to do with the situation at hand.

169 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 8:24:27am

re: #138 Targetpractice

Yet another nimrod who sees a picture of someone walking around with a gun slung over their shoulder in Israel and assumes that’s just because the laws there are so friendly to gun owners that nobody things twice about it.

In Israel the only people walking around with M4 carbines are active duty or reservists. Regular civilians, not so much.

When my son was in the IDF he only carried his weapon when he was in uniform, but not when he was in civilian clothes.

170 Bulworth  Jun 1, 2014 8:24:47am

re: #163 makeitstop

Meanwhile, I’m seeing a meme saying that we should invade Mexico to get back the Marine who got himself arrested down there, and blaming Obama for being weak for not doing that.

Wingnut logic - 31 flavors of fucked up derangement.

That’s completely different because shutup

171 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 8:24:59am

re: #163 makeitstop

Meanwhile, I’m seeing a meme saying that we should invade Mexico to get back the Marine who got himself arrested down there, and blaming Obama for being weak for not doing that.

Wingnut logic - 31 flavors of fucked up derangement.

That meme has also been used for Putin-worship as well:

172 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:27:07am

Bowe snaps. Walks over to the other side. Goes missing/POW/unknown status for 5 years. Traitor.

Robert Bales snaps. Murders 16 Afghan civilians. Sentenced to life without parole. Patriot.

173 makeitstop  Jun 1, 2014 8:27:10am

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

That meme has also been used for Putin-worship as well:

Yep, that’s the one. These people make me sick.

174 Bulworth  Jun 1, 2014 8:28:00am

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

Cruz needs some lessons.

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on prisoner swap: ‘I do not think the way to deal with terrorists is through releasing other violent terrorists’ - @chrisdonovan
End of alert

Maybe we should have traded arms for Bergdahl, eh, Ted?

Please proceed, GOP….

175 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 8:28:00am

re: #166 Targetpractice

You can hear it now: “The President didn’t forget him! He got him back without seeking Congress’ approval! This kid deserves our thanks for his service!”

Instead, we get: “He’s a fucking traitor! Deserter! The President just put us in more danger!”

The idea of a common good has been so diminished by conservative “thought leaders” that they’re completely missing the point. We recover every captured member of the armed forces we can for the benefit of everyone in the forces.

176 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:28:44am

re: #172 Gus

Bowe snaps. Walks over to the other side. Goes missing/POW/unknown status for 5 years. Traitor.

Robert Bales snaps. Murders 16 Afghan civilians. Sentenced to life without parole. Patriot.

Well, obviously Bales is a patriot because he was only killing Muslims. If he’d killed Americans, they’d want his ass hung from the nearest elm tree by sundown.

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177 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:28:59am
Over the past decades, abortion providers live with increasing risk: One in five clinics annually are the targets of repeated violence. Since the early 1990s, nine doctors and clinic workers have been murdered in attacks by anti-abortion extremists, and 30 others wounded, including law enforcement officers responding to the incidents.

Each time, the killers, or attempted killers, (like Rachelle “Shelley” Shannon, who shot Tiller in both arms in 1993,) would be characterized as lone nuts. But in truth, they are often involved with extremist anti-abortion organizations that track the whereabouts of abortion doctors and deliver white-hot rhetoric that paints someone like George Tiller as a murderer rather than a healer. Anti-abortion extremists have even promoted the assassinations of abortion providers as “justifiable homicides.” So these “lone nuts,” heeding the call to violence, are as good as licensed to kill.

Yes, it is Paged

178 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 8:29:52am

Love how Steele goes out of his way to NOT mention party…

179 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:32:42am

re: #178 psddluva4evah

Love how Steele goes out of his way to NOT mention party…

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Makes sure not to mention that it was Fox that initially floated the accusations of desertion and treason, and that it was Republicans who were first to accuse the White House of breaking the law.

Shocker.

180 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:32:52am

So Firefly is quite the series. I like it.

181 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:34:34am

re: #176 Targetpractice

Well, obviously Bales is a patriot because he was only killing Muslims. If he’d killed Americans, they’d want his ass hung from the nearest elm tree by sundown.

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And we still don’t know what happened with Bowe Bergdahl. Yet people don’t withhold assumptions that fit their own personal narrative, partisanship or biases.

182 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:35:05am
183 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:35:27am

Seems to be the current practice:

184 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 8:36:03am

re: #177 FemNaziBitch

Yes, it is Paged

Why they continue to call these ideological crazies “pro-life” is beyond my understand.

en.wikipedia.org

185 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 8:36:45am

re: #174 Bulworth

Please proceed, GOP….

To be fair to Cruz, saying “Releasing Taliban leaders in a prisoner swap is a bad idea” is logically defensible. Attacking Obama as a traitor for making the swap is not.

186 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:37:04am

187 Ryan King  Jun 1, 2014 8:37:22am
188 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 8:37:43am

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

Seems to be the current practice:

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Except she lied like a rug. She didn’t “have hers” but had to petition the Fed govt for SS and Medicare.

189 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:37:53am

It’s sort of like saying, Snowden should come back to the USA and face justice. Then, if he finally did come back, turning around and saying, fuck him anyway.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 8:38:20am

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

Seems to be the current practice:

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I Tweeted that but FUCK YOU was showing up in the timeline so I deleted it.

191 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:38:57am

192 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:39:49am

re: #188 Justanotherhuman

Except she lied like a rug. She didn’t “have hers” but had to petition the Fed govt for SS and Medicare.

Which, in theory, she paid into.

I’m not an Ayn Rand hater. I’ve learned a lot from reading Ayn. I just don’t seem to have learned what other’s are practicing currently.

193 Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2014 8:42:18am

re: #187 Ryan King

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Heh. If President Obama went on TV and said, “You know….shooting yourself in the head is a bad idea. As a matter of fact, I’m going to be signing an Executive Order against shooting yourself in the head tomorrow evening at 5:30 PM”, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there were suddenly reports of thousands upon thousands of wingnuts doing precisely that, just to show President Obama their abject disdain for him.

And I’m only half-kidding.

194 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 8:45:02am
“So many of us are concerned about what really is a break with U.S. policy of not negotiating with terrorists,”[House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.)

Rogers said that “the No. 1 way Al Qaeda raises money” is by kidnapping and ransoming.

“We have now set a price,” he said. “If you negotiate here, you’ve sent a message to every Al Qaeda group in the world - by the way, some who are holding U.S. hostages today - that there is some value now in that hostage in a way that they didn’t have before. That is dangerous.”
thehill.com

So listen up, front line soldiers: While we’re in the WOT, if you get captured by terrorists, Mike Rogers says we’re not going to negotiate your release.

195 Zamb  Jun 1, 2014 8:45:55am

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately their selfishness and desire to revel in their rage would lead them to force their families to do it just so they could blame Obama for killing their kids.

196 Bulworth  Jun 1, 2014 8:46:19am

re: #194 jaunte

So listen up, front line soldiers: While we’re in the WOT, if you get captured by terrorists, Mike Rogers says we’re not going to negotiate your release.

So nice the GOP has “concerns”….

197 Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2014 8:46:36am

re: #194 jaunte

So listen up, front line soldiers: While we’re in the WOT, if you get captured by terrorists, Mike Rogers says we’re not going to negotiate your release too bad, so sad, fuck you.

FTFY.

198 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:47:30am

re: #191 FemNaziBitch

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Someone with better googlefu than me, please find out about this sculpture.

thx

199 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 8:47:38am
200 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 8:47:58am

re: #192 FemNaziBitch

Which, in theory, she paid into.

I’m not an Ayn Rand hater. I’ve learned a lot from reading Ayn. I just don’t seem to have learned what other’s are practicing currently.

Only “in theory”. Just like her “got mine” bullshit.

I’ll go with RationalWiki on Rand.

rationalwiki.org

201 Dark_Falcon  Jun 1, 2014 8:48:07am

BBL

202 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:49:06am

Guys, if this is real, the dog painted an incredibly well balanced piece.

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2014 8:49:34am

re: #198 FemNaziBitch

Someone with better googlefu than me, please find out about this sculpture.

thx

‘The Caring Hand’ in Glarus, Switzerland.

204 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 8:49:38am

re: #133 Romantic Heretic

Attack on Titan is a deeply disturbing series. I’m enjoying it, but I can only watch about one episode every two weeks.

Yeah, it’s pretty harsh. There’s no way I could marathon it either.

205 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:50:02am

re: #194 jaunte

So listen up, front line soldiers: While we’re in the WOT, if you get captured by terrorists, Mike Rogers says we’re not going to negotiate your release.

Unless we can find some way to trade weapons for hostages in secret.

206 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:50:09am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘The Caring Hand’ in Glarus, Switzerland.

Much thanks!

207 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 8:50:41am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

Only “in theory”. Just like her “got mine” bullshit.

I’ll go with RationalWiki on Rand.

rationalwiki.org

What about what you got from reading Ayn? I go with my own impressions.

208 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 8:52:44am

re: #207 FemNaziBitch

What about what you got from reading Ayn? I go with my own impressions.

What I got? Indigestion.

209 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:53:10am

In fact, that’s one thing I wanna ask any wingnut who’s bent out of shape over this exchange: Were you this concerned about who the hostages that were released in exchange for weapons during Iran-Contra? Did you get worked up overly much about the President knowingly violating the law, not smply bending it, in order to supply aid to anti-Communist “allies”?

210 Ryan King  Jun 1, 2014 8:54:43am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

Generally, the work of Ms. Rand is hugely enjoyed by people with the literary sensitivities of 11-year-olds who imagine they have fierce political sophistication.

Win.

211 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 8:55:23am

re: #194 jaunte

Lordy, how can the GOP not see when they are being set up. Who other than the usual wingnut and Fox news breathers will even support this.

Who’s gonna run on this?

Personally I hope they continue. Go ahead, malign the newly free POW without just cause…”Please Proceed…GOP”

212 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 8:56:06am

WTF is this guy’s problem?

Oh, I see now: Englishman in New York. Foreign editor @ABC, previously foreign editor @BBCNews. Runner, traveller. Views mine alone.

213 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 8:56:25am

re: #211 psddluva4evah

Lordy, how can the GOP not see when they are being set up. Who other than the usual wingnut and Fox news breathers will even support this.

Who’s gonna run on this?

Personally I hope they continue. Go ahead, malign the newly free POW without just cause…”Please Proceed…GOP”

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“You are not forgotten,” my ass.

The GOP’s new motto for POWs: “You’re on your own.”

214 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 8:57:05am

Of courser GOP was IRATE over the investigation of Ollie North et al, NOT so much the actual sale of arms …part though

215 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 8:57:06am

re: #212 Justanotherhuman

#Bergdahl’s story complex and murky.

Not unlike the nation’s.

216 darthstar  Jun 1, 2014 8:57:46am

re: #202 FemNaziBitch

Guys, if this is real, the dog painted an incredibly well balanced piece.

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I’m more impressed with the dog’s framing skills.

217 darthstar  Jun 1, 2014 8:59:18am

re: #214 psddluva4evah

Let’s not forget the fact that Obama gave five Taliban who’ve been carmelizing their onions for a dozen years in Gitmo. You know what those guys are going to do when they get home? Absolutely nothing.

218 ObserverArt  Jun 1, 2014 9:01:05am

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

I don’t think the NSA wants photos of people’s vaginas and penises, either, unless they’re on some wanted criminal’s pages along w/his or her photo.

People put all kinds of shit out there on the internet, and then they complain because the NSA is using facial recognition to catch criminals?

Good mid-day everyone!

A great example of people putting themselves all over the ‘net was my recognizing the tall thin dude in the fedora with the guns in a store in a couple of images linked here both in tweets. So, identifying him as part of Open Carry Texas led me to doing a Google image search of Open Carry Texas. Surprise…who showed up? Kory Watkins, the thin dude in the fedora. Links from the images took me to his blog and other sites with others in his group.

Is Kory going to bitch and cry about that nasty NSA or any other government agency having his image? I didn’t have any motive to dig him up except to do a photoshop of him in his fedora reminiscent of an old Devo album. Actually I learned way too much about him. Who’s fault was that?

But what about the ATF? I’m betting they know Kory too. And Kory did that to himself. If Kory and his group screw up and something bad comes out of one of his protests/demonstrations, how long will it take before Kory is picked up and questioned?

But should that happen, there will no doubt be someone saying it was unfair that Kory was being watched by the Feds. Really? Seems to me the Feds wouldn’t have to do much more than a Google search. Who needs a sophisticated spy program to scan communications. I didn’t. I didn’t even need his name, that was attached to the images. I was just looking for the tall thin dude in a fedora open carrying a gun.

219 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:01:34am
220 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 9:01:49am

re: #214 psddluva4evah

Obama Trades Five Guys? GOP Heads Explode.

These guys are apparently the five lost Nazgûl.

221 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:02:07am

Yeah, this is gonna haunt us—not.

222 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 9:02:09am
223 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 1, 2014 9:04:07am

I have to say that I’m beyond speechless with the RWNJs response on this. They have raised the ability to object to everything while contributing nothing to an art form. They seen to be be, as a friend of mine once said, “spring loaded in the pissed off position, and set with a hair trigger”

How can anybody go through life like that and derive any real enjoyment from living?

RBS
Who is enjoying how well the mobile interface plays on his nexus 7

224 Ryan King  Jun 1, 2014 9:05:12am
225 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:06:17am
226 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:06:20am

Now I almost wish the President had put the issue before Congress. Nothing like a month long of Republicans railing that the best thing this nation could do is leave a POW to rot in enemy custody for the rest of his life. See “Maverick” McCain and Huckleberry Closetcase up upon their soapboxes, demanding the White House invade Pakistan just to secure the release of a single POW. And hearing the Republican candidates from sea to sea declaring that, if elected to Congress, they’ll make sure the President doesn’t bring POWs home unless its unconditionally.

227 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:06:55am

Can You Pass an 8th Grade Science Test?

12/15 I am easily confused by the way questions are worded.

228 Ryan King  Jun 1, 2014 9:06:56am
The news of the prisoner exchange — in which Sgt. Bergdahl was swapped for Afghan detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay — surprised many Republicans because, they claim, it violated a law Obama signed last year requiring the defense secretary to notify congressional committees 30 days before arranging for a transfer of prisoners.

That sounds totally efficient and completely arbitrary. Much like the entirety of government according to the GOP.

229 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:09:16am

re: #228 Ryan King

That sounds totally efficient and completely arbitrary. Much like the entirety of government according to the GOP.

The law itself actually has nothing to do with prisoner exchanges and everything to do with Republicans wanting to prevent the White House from closing Gitmo.

230 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 9:10:58am

re: #225 Lidane

Huh, next thing Obama will be inviting future Jihadis to the Oval Office for tea. Oh, wait.

He’ll just have it delivered.

231 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:11:02am

re: #226 Targetpractice

I’m still convinced that some asshole teabagger will file articles of impeachment over bringing an American POW home. It’s inevitable at this point.

232 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:11:33am

re: #231 Lidane

I’m still convinced that some asshole teabagger will file articles of impeachment over bringing an American POW home. It’s inevitable at this point.

I wouldn’t be surprised, especially with how their whinging themselves inside out over the “precedent.”

233 b_sharp  Jun 1, 2014 9:15:19am

re: #192 FemNaziBitch

Which, in theory, she paid into.

I’m not an Ayn Rand hater. I’ve learned a lot from reading Ayn. I just don’t seem to have learned what other’s are practicing currently.

I have a friend who is a Prof in Australia as a philosopher of science. He calls the Ayn Rand fans morons.
He may have a reason.

234 Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2014 9:15:35am

re: #232 Targetpractice

I wouldn’t be surprised, especially with how their whinging themselves inside out over the “precedent.”

The “precedent” set by President Reagan?

That’s what I’d say immediately to the wingnuts if I was President. As a matter of fact, I’d say it was my direct inspiration.

235 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:15:45am

re: #226 Targetpractice

Now I almost wish the President had put the issue before Congress. Nothing like a month long of Republicans railing that the best thing this nation could do is leave a POW to rot in enemy custody for the rest of his life. See “Maverick” McCain and Huckleberry Closetcase up upon their soapboxes, demanding the White House invade Pakistan just to secure the release of a single POW. And hearing the Republican candidates from sea to sea declaring that, if elected to Congress, they’ll make sure the President doesn’t bring POWs home unless its unconditionally.

See, Rs want a “strong President” who gets things done—until he’s Black.

236 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:17:41am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

Can You Pass an 8th Grade Science Test?

12/15 I am easily confused by the way questions are worded.

15/15. Awesome. :D

237 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:17:49am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

The “precedent” set by President Reagan?

That’s what I’d say immediately to the wingnuts if I was President. As a matter of fact, I’d say it was my direct inspiration.

Indeed, the “precedent” already existed, the Taliban just set a higher price than last time.

And I know nothing about the five released. Have they ever been charged with crimes, let alone tried and convicted? What’s the evidence against them? Am I just supposed to take the word of Congressional Republicans that these were very dangerous guys and letting them loose was a horrifically bad idea?

238 ObserverArt  Jun 1, 2014 9:18:16am

re: #178 psddluva4evah

Love how Steele goes out of his way to NOT mention party…

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I used to like to see Michael Steele as a GOP spokesman on some of the televised political shows. He seemed like he at least understood politics and wasn’t quite so quick to turn everything into us and them.

Lately I am thinking Michael was grabbed by the leadership and read the riot act for not following all the talking points to the letter. He seems to have changed his tone lately and is now just as much a parrot as the rest of them. I hope I am wrong…but I fear the GOP Body Snatchers got him.

Is there really a middle ground any more? You know the area where probably 70% of the American people reside with their thinking? The GOP doesn’t seem to think so and they don’t seem to want to find their way back there. I guess I no longer understand politics.

239 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:20:11am

Wasn’t this meme determined to be a parody?

240 Zamb  Jun 1, 2014 9:20:59am

re: #238 ObserverArt

He kind of got thrown under the bus by the G.O.P so he was more willing to take a moderate tone and actually criticize the party. He’s probably still a little pissed about being tossed out as RNC chair after a winning campaign season when Priebus kept his job after getting trounced in 2012.

241 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:21:31am

I have two different Platos following me on Twitter?

How does that work?

242 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:22:02am

re: #240 Zamb

He kind of got thrown under the bus by the G.O.P so he was more willing to take a moderate tone and actually criticize the party. He’s probably still a little pissed about being tossed out as RNC chair after a winning campaign season when Priebus kept his job after getting trounced in 2012.

Yes, unlike most reasonable people, he didn’t switch sides.

243 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 9:23:09am

re: #239 FemNaziBitch

I think this is the actual quote:

Wind is God’s way of balancing heat. Wind is the way you shift heat from areas where it’s hotter to areas where it’s cooler. That’s what wind is. Wouldn’t it be ironic if in the interest of global warming we mandated massive switches to energy, which is a finite resource, which slows the winds down, which causes the temperature to go up? Now, I’m not saying that’s going to happen, Mr. Chairman, but that is definitely something on the massive scale. I mean, it does make some sense. You stop something, you can’t transfer that heat, and the heat goes up. It’s just something to think about.
grist.org

244 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:23:30am
245 ObserverArt  Jun 1, 2014 9:23:40am

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

To be fair to Cruz, saying “Releasing Taliban leaders in a prisoner swap is a bad idea” is logically defensible. Attacking Obama as a traitor for making the swap is not.

Try softballing that creep all you want Dark. To do so you have to totally ignore his character which is rather slimy. I know you like your party and all, but what is that old saying about lying down with dogs? Ted Cruz only wants to use people like you to get what he needs to get for those that control him.

246 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:23:55am

Don’t know how he is still posting …

247 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:24:31am

Can I have one?????

248 Jay in Oregon  Jun 1, 2014 9:24:35am

re: #44 TedStriker

In the Sharpe’s Rifles TV movies, Sean Bean plays the title character. It’s pretty hard to have more than one of those movies if you die a lot.

Has anyone compared Bean’s on-screen mortality to other character actors? Michael Ironside seems to die a lot in his appearances.

Or is it because Bean plays both heroes and villains, yet it never seems to affect the lifespan of his characters?

249 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:24:44am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

Can You Pass an 8th Grade Science Test?

12/15 I am easily confused by the way questions are worded.

I missed 4 and 12, both of which I second-guessed myself on. : )

250 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 9:25:41am

re: #221 Justanotherhuman

Hmmm, Can’t wait to see them put this pic up against the pic of the soldier’s homecoming to his parents and friends.

My guess, once again no one but strictest winguts will care.

Question though, who is this guy and why is he on a tear?

251 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:27:11am

It will never end

252 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:27:43am

re: #250 psddluva4evah

Hmmm, Can’t wait to see them put this pic up against the pic of the soldier’s homecoming to his parents and friends.

My guess, once again no one but strictest winguts will care.

Question though, who is this guy and why is he on a tear?

“Englishman in New York. Foreign editor @ABC, previously foreign editor @BBCNews. Runner, traveller. Views mine alone.” (from his twitter page)

253 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:27:48am

re: #248 Jay in Oregon

In the Sharpe’s Rifles TV movies, Sean Bean plays the title character. It’s pretty hard to have more than one of those movies if you die a lot.

Has anyone compared Bean’s on-screen mortality to other character actors? Michael Ironside seems to die a lot in his appearances.

Or is it because Bean plays both heroes and villains, yet it never seems to affect the lifespan of his characters?

He was 006. I’ll never forget that.

254 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 9:29:00am
255 BongCrodny  Jun 1, 2014 9:29:52am

I just got an email fro Crackle, touting its “Summer of Heroes”:

Let the hero worship begin. Our Summer of Heroes series counts off ten films featuring heroes of all stripes—from cops and renegades to lone wolves and wolf packs—all worship-worthy. Bow down.

On the list was “Taxi Driver.”

I’m not sure that Crackle really understands that movie.

256 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:30:28am

257 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 9:31:05am

2012 GOP threat: Sgt. Bergdahl swap will be Obama, Democrats’ ‘Willie Horton moment’

…One possible reason the president chose not to notify lawmakers is that last time he attempted to negotiate Sgt. Bergdahl’s release, Republicans both formally and informally blocked all efforts to do so.

In addition to using congressional oversight, special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Marc Grossman was told by Republican leadership that negotiating an exchange of Sgt. Bergdahl that involved detainees from Guantanamo Bay would be the president’s “Willie Horton moment,” a reference to the infamous “Revolving Door” advertisement that George H.W. Bush campaign used to make 1988 Democratic presidential nominee Michael Dukakis look “soft” on crime…

258 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:31:37am

re: #252 Justanotherhuman

“Englishman in New York. Foreign editor @ABC, previously foreign editor @BBCNews. Runner, traveller. Views mine alone.” (from his twitter page)

Foreign Policy likes him. At least on Twitter.

abcnews.go.com

259 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:32:49am

Does Florida have any redeeming qualities besides the New Diagon Alley/Harry Potter part of Universal & Mickey Mouse?

260 Romantic Heretic  Jun 1, 2014 9:33:35am

re: #233 b_sharp

I have a friend who is a Prof in Australia as a philosopher of science. He calls the Ayn Rand fans morons.
He may have a reason.

I make the Randroids heads explode by noting that Objectvism is simply inverted Marxism. If Marx says something is good, Rand says it’s bad and vice versa.

Hardly original thinking.

261 BongCrodny  Jun 1, 2014 9:33:38am

re: #248 Jay in Oregon

In the Sharpe’s Rifles TV movies, Sean Bean plays the title character. It’s pretty hard to have more than one of those movies if you die a lot.

Has anyone compared Bean’s on-screen mortality to other character actors? Michael Ironside seems to die a lot in his appearances.

Or is it because Bean plays both heroes and villains, yet it never seems to affect the lifespan of his characters?

In case you were wondering:

Actors with most onscreen deaths

Sean’s way up there on the list. :-)

262 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:34:08am
263 sagehen  Jun 1, 2014 9:34:32am

re: #237 Targetpractice

Indeed, the “precedent” already existed, the Taliban just set a higher price than last time.

And I know nothing about the five released. Have they ever been charged with crimes, let alone tried and convicted? What’s the evidence against them? Am I just supposed to take the word of Congressional Republicans that these were very dangerous guys and letting them loose was a horrifically bad idea?

Nobody at Gitmo has been tried and convicted. Not a single one. Whatever evidence there may be against them is classified, and some of it was probably obtained by means that would make it unreliable and/or inadmissible.

264 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:35:16am

5 GITMO prisoners out of 500 is, 1 percent.

265 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:35:30am

re: #257 psddluva4evah

2012 GOP threat: Sgt. Bergdahl swap will be Obama, Democrats’ ‘Willie Horton moment’

Oh-fucking-please. The war in Afghanistan is winding down, and one of the things that happens when wars end is both sides begin wheeling and dealing over the release of POWs. Americans are gonna be happy to have this soldier back, and if they’re worried about “precedent” set and more soldiers taken hostage, then that’s all the more reason to get the fuck out now.

266 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 9:35:42am

re: #252 Justanotherhuman

ah…ok, thanks

267 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:36:45am

re: #261 BongCrodny

In case you were wondering:

Actors with most onscreen deaths

Sean’s way up there on the list. :-)

HA!
Danny Trejo - Dies 11 times

268 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:37:22am

re: #263 sagehen

Nobody at Gitmo has been tried and convicted. Not a single one. Whatever evidence there may be against them is classified, and some of it was probably obtained by means that would make it unreliable and/or inadmissible.

Just reading through the BBC story makes it clear that the five we’ve been holding would, if this were any other war, be non-issues. None of them seem to have been charged with crimes towards the US, and the crimes they are suspected of committing should be prosecuted by Afghanistan, as we have no jurisdiction in such matters.

269 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:39:43am

re: #268 Targetpractice

Just reading through the BBC story makes it clear that the five we’ve been holding would, if this were any other war, be non-issues. None of them seem to have been charged with crimes towards the US, and the crimes they are suspected of committing should be prosecuted by Afghanistan, as we have no jurisdiction in such matters.

Still, they must be there for a reason. Obama has been a stickler for following the law in immigration and drug laws, why would he vow to close GITMO and then not do it?

The reason probably has something to do with someone elses issues with Power and Control. Yet, I understand there are some really, baddy baddie guys there.

270 psddluva4evah  Jun 1, 2014 9:39:45am

Wait…what?

271 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:39:54am

Since it’s almost time for lunch:

272 Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2014 9:40:04am
273 b_sharp  Jun 1, 2014 9:40:32am

re: #260 Romantic Heretic

I make the Randroids heads explode by noting that Objectvism is simply inverted Marxism. If Marx says something is good, Rand says it’s bad and vice versa.

Hardly original thinking.

I came to the same conclusion.

274 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:41:42am

re: #271 Lidane

Since it’s almost time for lunch:

[Embedded content]

Raw fish? No way in hell.

275 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:43:05am

re: #272 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Maybe Pierre realizes he fucked up with this crowd of even bigger narcissists than he might be?

276 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:43:07am

I really, really want one, I really really do

277 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:43:42am

#GOPWillieHortonMoments

278 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:44:22am

re: #269 FemNaziBitch

Still, they must be there for a reason. Obama has been a stickler for following the law in immigration and drug laws, why would he vow to close GITMO and then not do it?

The reason probably has something to do with someone elses issues with Power and Control. Yet, I understand there are some really, baddy baddie guys there.

The list of reasons for not clearing out Gitmo at this point mostly boil down to one thing: There’s no way to try most of these men in a court of law without the very real danger of the cases being thrown out either due to lack of admissible evidence or because under the rules of war we can’t try POWs for crimes against us while the war is ongoing, and we can’t guarantee that their home countries wouldn’t torture or execute them upon release. So we’re stuck with men we can’t legally try but also can’t release.

279 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:45:11am

re: #278 Targetpractice

The list of reasons for not clearing out Gitmo at this point mostly boil down to one thing: There’s no way to try most of these men in a court of law without the very real danger of the cases being thrown out either due to lack of admissible evidence or because under the rules of war we can’t try POWs for crimes against us while the war is ongoing, and we can’t guarantee that their home countries wouldn’t torture or execute them upon release. So we’re stuck with men we can’t legally try but also can’t release.

So, they aren’t safe anywhere else and we don’t know if WE are safe with them anywhere else?

280 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:45:36am

Yes, but. That was different!

281 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:45:56am

re: #270 psddluva4evah

I’m seeing that a lot from the RWNJs. For example:

282 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:46:25am

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

So, they aren’t safe anywhere else and we don’t know if WE are safe with them anywhere else?

Well, it’s not so much we’re not sure if we’re safe so much as the NIMBY effect, no Congress critter wants to be the one to announce that he allowed Gitmo’s finest to be housed in his state indefinitely.

283 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:46:35am

I’d to see some investigative journalism done by interviewing the detainee’s themselves. Its been 10 years (ish) for them.

284 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:46:53am

Katz had just participated in a buyout of the Phila Inquirer. The deal is expected to go ahead.

Update: 3 crew members, 4 passengers were on board during Hanscom Field crash, including Lewis Katz - @BostonGlobe
Read more on bostonglobe.com

285 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 9:48:23am

re: #270 psddluva4evah

Cruz: U.S. could have used military force to free POW

Despite all recent evidence to the contrary, military force is still considered a magic solution.

286 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:49:18am

re: #285 jaunte

Despite all recent evidence to the contrary, military force is still considered a magic solution.

Lies! Haven’t you ever watched the A-Team?

287 Justanotherhuman  Jun 1, 2014 9:49:47am

re: #285 jaunte

Despite all recent evidence to the contrary, military force is still considered a magic solution.

Yes, what could possibly go wrong?

288 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:49:53am

re: #281 Lidane

I’m seeing that a lot from the RWNJs. For example:

[Embedded content]

I imagine that’s gonna be a line for weeks or months to come, that we knew exactly where Bergdahl was being kept and could have gone in to get him, but the President wouldn’t authorize the mission. No question of if the intel was right, the political implications of invading a sovereign nation (nay “ally”) for the purpose of rescuing one POW, or the fallout back home if we lost one or more soldiers in the attempt.

289 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:50:35am

re: #281 Lidane

I’m seeing that a lot from the RWNJs. For example:

[Embedded content]

Some chickenhawk author. God he’s pathetic.

290 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 9:51:07am

re: #286 Gus

The Bourne Incursion, starring Brad Thor

292 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 9:53:33am

re: #288 Targetpractice

The other competing storyline seems to be that Bergdahl is going to be just like Brody on the TV show Homeland:

Of course these are the same dipshits who thought Jack Bauer was a role model for US foreign policy.

293 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:53:35am

I have no clue about Skyrim, yet I am totally enjoying the soundtrack.

294 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 9:55:18am

re: #292 Lidane

The other competing storyline seems to be that Bergdahl is going to be just like Brody on the TV show Homeland:

[Embedded content]

Of course these are the same dipshits who thought Jack Bauer was a role model for US foreign policy.

Yeah, they’re gonna need to get their shit together and agree on a common theme. Is Bergdahl a Manchurian Candidate who turned on America and should not be trusted? Or a great American whose release was so vital that we should have risked war with Pakistan to ensure his return?

295 jaunte  Jun 1, 2014 9:56:11am
296 FemNaziBitch  Jun 1, 2014 9:57:50am

bbl

297 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 9:59:21am

Mujahideen > Taliban

Cold War baby.

298 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:02:32am

Soviet invasion.
Mujahideen.
Charlie Wilson.
Gust Avrakotos.
CIA.
Cold War.
Afghanistan.

299 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:02:53am

re: #298 Gus

Soviet invasion.
Mujahideen.
Charlie Wilson.
Gust Avrakotos.
CIA.
Cold War.
Afghanistan.

Reagan doctrine.

300 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:03:05am

re: #299 Gus

Reagan doctrine.

Operation Cyclone.

301 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:03:45am

Also see Philip Seymour Hoffman.

302 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:04:40am

Gust Avrakotos

303 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:06:16am

Bosnian/Serb wars.
Bosnian mujahideen

304 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 10:07:06am

Of course, another thing to keep in mind is that, technically, we did not negotiate with terrorists. Despite what Republicans on Capital Hill will assert and wingnuts will froth over, the Taliban is not listed by the State Department as a terrorist organization. In fact, according to Wiki, there’s only one nation that still classifies the Taliban as a terrorist organization: Russia.

305 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:07:14am

Whew. Thanks God the USG never utilizes Jihad for their own counter Soviet and national security operations.

306 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:08:44am
…In the 1980s while at Langley, Avrakotos led Operation Cyclone, the largest covert operation in the CIA’s history. Through intermediaries, mostly Zia ul-Haq’s ISI in Pakistan, the CIA-armed Afghanistan’s Mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. Avrakotos eventually met congressman Charlie Wilson of Texas’s 2nd congressional district. Together they collaborated to massively increase funding for the rebels, and together helped persuade officials from Egypt, Pakistan, China, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere to increase support for the cause. Avrakotos also plucked Michael G. Vickers from obscurity in the CIA’s paramilitary group to revamp the strategy for the Mujahideen. Vickers urged them to drop the Enfield Rifle in favor of a mix of weapons like the AK-47, and to introduce new tactics, training, and logistics.[2]

Avrakotos’ position in the agency meant that he was also responsible for Iran. In 1985 he witnessed a group within the government, including Oliver North, Bud McFarlane, certain members of the National Security Council, and others attempting to run the Iran arms-for-hostages trade using the CIA. He told his superior Clair George that the Iran Contra trade was a disaster in the making, as he did not trust Manucher Ghorbanifar nor the Israelis pushing the scheme, and he viewed the people like North as the “lunatic fringe” who had earlier tried to bring bizarre ideas into the Afghan war. Avrakotos also warned George that the scheme was illegal and wrote a notable memo distributed within the CIA to that effect. According to author George Crile, the bureaucracy punished Avrakotos for his dissent and then banished him to a do-nothing job with little responsibility, just as his greatest success, the Afghan program, was showing results.[2][5] Avrakotos was re-assigned “just as the Stinger antiaircraft missile launchers downed the first Soviet gunships” and after a brief role in an African assignment, he retired from the CIA in 1989.[1] Gust’s predictions about Iran-Contra were accurate, as the Iran-Contra affair resulted in numerous prosecutions of government officials and years of congressional hearings and controversy…

en.wikipedia.org

307 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 10:09:25am

Wingnuts are all HURR HURR!!!!! WHY OBAMA TRADES 5 TALIBANS 4 U.S. SOLDIER BUT WON’T TRADE 5,000 MEXICANS FOR U.S. MARINE!!!!!!

308 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:10:29am

The Taliban. We built that. Still true to this day.

309 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 10:11:11am

We did not negotiate with terrorists, because legally we don’t consider them terrorists. We instead did what we always do at the end of a war: We negotiated the release of POWs we were holding in exchange for a POW the other side was holding. If the five were being held for crimes committed against the US, then they should have been tried for those crimes already in a court of law. If they were being held for crimes committed on the battlefield, then we cannot try them for those crimes under the Geneva Conventions. And if they are being held for crimes committed against the Afghan people, then the Afghan government has jurisdiction and must try them.

310 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:12:20am

Similar outcomes in Bosnia, Libya, and now possibly Syria.

311 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:12:53am

And Iraq. See ISIS.

312 Lidane  Jun 1, 2014 10:13:44am

re: #307 Pie-onist Overlord

Better yet, they pull out the Putin would’ve totally invaded Mexico card.

313 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 10:14:09am

Is there really NO SIGNAGE on the I-5 like this signage on the I-94?

314 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 1, 2014 10:14:50am

re: #308 Gus

The Taliban. We built that. Still true to this day.

Sadly. We just ended up replacing the Soviet Tyranny in Afghanistan with another.

315 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:16:33am

re: #314 CriticalDragon1177

Sadly. We just ended up replacing the Soviet Tyranny in Afghanistan with another.

Yep. We used them to counter the Soviets. The Soviets left and the USA was like. See ya. Good luck in your future endeavors now that we’ve armed the warlords to the teeth. Nothing to see here!

316 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 1, 2014 10:16:51am
317 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:18:37am

re: #309 Targetpractice

We did not negotiate with terrorists, because legally we don’t consider them terrorists. We instead did what we always do at the end of a war: We negotiated the release of POWs we were holding in exchange for a POW the other side was holding. If the five were being held for crimes committed against the US, then they should have been tried for those crimes already in a court of law. If they were being held for crimes committed on the battlefield, then we cannot try them for those crimes under the Geneva Conventions. And if they are being held for crimes committed against the Afghan people, then the Afghan government has jurisdiction and must try them.

The CIA however will negotiate with anyone depending on the USG’s FP goals.

318 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:18:44am

re: #313 Pie-onist Overlord

Marine Andrew Tahmooressi had just moved to California from Florida and had all his belongings in his vehicle, including the guns, when he missed the last U.S. exit on April 1, forcing him to cross the border. Road closures because of checkpoints and construction added to the confusion, and there was no opportunity for drivers to turn around,

usatoday.com

319 Targetpractice  Jun 1, 2014 10:21:36am

re: #318 sattv4u2


Marine Andrew Tahmooressi had just moved to California from Florida and had all his belongings in his vehicle, including the guns, when he missed the last U.S. exit on April 1, forcing him to cross the border. Road closures because of checkpoints and construction added to the confusion, and there was no opportunity for drivers to turn around,

usatoday.com

From the sounds of it, if he did nothing wrong, then it won’t be that hard to prove as much to a judge and be released. After all, don’t we hear all the time from wingnuts how they really wish that we had laws like Mexico’s when it came to dealing with foreigners?

320 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:21:52am

US Marine arrested in Mexico for breaking Mexican law. Bring him back. He’s a hero and a patriot.

Mexican Marine arrested in USA for breaking US law. Fuck him. He broke the law and needs to face justice.

321 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jun 1, 2014 10:22:31am

re: #320 Gus

US Marine arrested in Mexico for breaking Mexican law. Bring him back. He’s a hero and a patriot.

Mexican Marine arrested in USA for breaking US law. Fuck him. He broke the law and needs to face justice.

Does Mexico have Marines?

322 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:22:59am

re: #321 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Does Mexico have Marines?

I don’t know.

323 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:24:20am

re: #321 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Does Mexico have Marines?

Yes

‘Fuerza de Infantería de Marina

324 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:28:01am

re: #319 Targetpractice

From the sounds of it, if he did nothing wrong, then it won’t be that hard to prove as much to a judge and be released. After all, don’t we hear all the time from wingnuts how they really wish that we had laws like Mexico’s when it came to dealing with foreigners?

In the USA they’re detained. Charged. Then further detained for a year or more until a trial in which they are either found guilty or innocent. I’m sure it’s the same in Mexico. Mexico, like the USA, won’t release someone like this “because they sound innocent.”

325 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:29:51am

Texas executing Mexican nationals from time to time doesn’t help.

326 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:37:27am

re: #324 Gus

“because they sound innocent.”

Maybe if they throw in an affidavit from their mom saying that he was always such a “good boy” would do it!!

327 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:38:18am

re: #326 sattv4u2

“because they sound innocent.”

Maybe if they throw in an affidavit from their mom saying that he was always such a “good boy” would do it!!

Online petitions help too. //

328 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:39:46am

re: #327 Gus

Online petitions help too. //

and hashtags!

329 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:40:42am

re: #327 Gus

re: #328 sattv4u2

and hashtags!

or is that hashish!?!?

330 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:41:08am

re: #329 sattv4u2

or is that hashish!?!?

I like that better.

“Hey man, like. I’m hungry.”

331 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:41:39am

This Tweet just made it to Algeria in seconds.

332 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:41:52am

re: #330 Gus

I like that better.

“Hey man, like. I’m hungry.”

Hash and eggs for that

333 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:42:27am

re: #332 sattv4u2

Hash and eggs for that

Hash is a very useful word. //

334 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:43:02am

re: #332 sattv4u2

Hash and eggs for that

(((dammit ,,, now I want corned beef hash. Haven’t had a great plate of corned beef hash in years))))

335 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:43:33am

re: #333 Gus

Hash is a very useful word. //

Only when it’s out

336 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:45:12am

hash
hashish
hashtags
corned beef hash
rehashed

337 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:45:52am

#rehashedtags

338 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:46:38am

re: #336 Gus

hash
hashish
hashtags
corned beef hash
rehashed

hash it out
hashbrowns
hashimoto

339 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:48:38am

re: #338 sattv4u2

hash it out
hashbrowns
hashimoto

Hashcats.

340 Lancelot Link  Jun 1, 2014 10:48:43am

Uh-oh, now you guys have really made a hash of it.

341 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:49:09am

fish hash
potato hash

342 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:49:36am

Hash Puppies™ New line of shoes. //

343 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:52:23am

hashy
Hashy
Hashy Yusof

344 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:54:53am

Hasheem Thabeet

(University of Connecticut BBall player)

345 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:56:53am

re: #342 Gus

Hash PuppiesTM New line of shoes. //

Image: 203658-12-too-small-for-your-boots-508x400.jpg

346 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 10:57:18am

We have zebra print and cheetah print pants. Why are there no tabby print pants? //

347 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 10:58:52am

re: #346 Gus

We have zebra print and cheetah print pants. Why are there no tabby print pants? //

YOU might have zebra print and cheetah print pants

Me,, not so much

348 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 11:14:47am

Hey. Remember when Gerald Ford pardoned Tokyo Rose on January 19, 1977? Traitor

//

349 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 11:17:38am

re: #348 Gus

Hey. Remember when Gerald Ford pardoned Tokyo Rose on January 19, 1977? Traitor

//

I remember that day
It was a Wednesday

I had the fish for dinner

350 Gus  Jun 1, 2014 11:18:47am

re: #349 sattv4u2

I remember that day
It was a Wednesday

I had the fish for dinner

Fortunately it was before Twitter. //

351 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 11:23:58am

re: #350 Gus

Fortunately it was before Twitter. //

In my case, even today is before Twitter

352 sattv4u2  Jun 1, 2014 11:24:12am

re: #350 Gus

re: #351 sattv4u2

In my case, even today is before Twitter

fortunately

353 darthstar  Jun 1, 2014 1:10:34pm

Why one of my friends, who is HIV+ loves his Obamacare (monthly prescription costs - his share at right):


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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