Right Wing Mounts Unprecedented Smear Campaign Against Freed POW

The new right wing motto: “Some soldiers should be left behind”
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I thought I’d seen massive lock-step right wing smear campaigns before, but the effort the Republican Party and their media parrots have mounted to assassinate the character of freed POW Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is absolutely mind-boggling in its volume and derangement. For example…

On the front page of the Breitbart “News” Network, we currently find at least eighteen articles ranting about Sgt. Bergdahl.

And on HotAir’s front page, it’s even more ridiculous. As I write this, I count at least twenty-four articles bashing Bergdahl, his father, his father’s beard, and of course, President Obama — because Obama is very obviously the real target, and Bergdahl and his family are just collateral damage to these hateful assholes.

And speaking of Republicans and conservatives complaining about Obama being seen with Bergdahl’s father and his long, unkempt beard, savor the irony if you will:

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From the 2014 Republican Leadership Conference on May 29, 2014 in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Also see
Fox News Contributor Behind PR Campaign for Soldiers Critical of Bowe Bergdahl

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649 comments
1 lawhawk  Jun 3, 2014 11:39:59am
2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 11:41:31am

new wingnut talking point!

3 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 11:42:07am
4 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 3, 2014 11:42:22am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boy if I were an American GI I’d love to know that my rescue from torture and abuse depended on what the right-wing media thought of me.

5 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 11:42:55am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

new wingnut talking point!

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Typical RW hypocrisy. Sickening.

They clearly have no sense of shame.

Or honor, for that matter.

6 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 11:43:04am
7 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 11:43:27am

Oh, and a repost from downstairs. Methinks some will end up on a fainting couch:

Markos has also RT’d this story, too.

8 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 11:44:02am
10 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 11:45:06am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

This must be either a joke or a ploy by Charles to boost subscriptions…

LOL at the Republican Retread Party.

11 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 11:45:34am

re: #7 Lidane

Oh, and a repost from downstairs. Methinks some will end up on a fainting couch:

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Markos has also RT’d this story, too.

Serious spoldey heads from the lefter than thou crowd will be forthcoming, for sure.

12 bratwurst  Jun 3, 2014 11:45:34am

Every time you think the American right has hit rock bottom, they keep digging. Today Mark Steyn was on the radio (filling in for Limbaugh) ranting and raving about John Walker Lindh and bemoaning the fact that nobody in the Muslim word takes the US nuclear threat seriously. I am not exaggerating!

13 Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2014 11:45:47am

Repost for anyone who hasn’t read Jim Wright’s take.

14 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 11:46:13am
15 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 11:46:14am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

This must be either a joke or a ploy by Charles to boost subscriptions…

I actually do hear Mitt wants to run again. Apparently he doesn’t get the fact that voters just don’t like him. He’s won one election his whole career.

16 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 11:46:39am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

new wingnut talking point!

@daveweigel I supported this kid getting home….before I found out the details! Come on, they made his unit sign non disclosure stmnts

I wonder what she thought about the whole Pat Tillman affair. Oh, those nasty details.

17 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 11:46:42am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Romney 2016! He’ll keep his yap shut this time!

18 lawhawk  Jun 3, 2014 11:46:46am

Freed from Taliban hands, but not beyond being investigated by the US Army for charges of desertion.

But to the GOP, Bergdahl’s a pawn in game of politics against President Obama, who, as Commander in Chief, can do nothing right, even when it’s something that the GOP was agitating for just hours/weeks/months earlier.

If Obama did nothing, the GOP would be complaining that he wasn’t cutting a deal. Now that Obama cut a deal, they’re complaining that a deal was done.

It’s craven. It’s politics at its ugliest, and it’s the modern GOP. And they’re busy whipping up the anger among the same right wing that was calling for Bergdahl to be released weeks and months ago for … securing his release.

It’s a deal not without risks - both to US and Afghan forces if the five end up back fighting against the US and its interests overseas. But we’ve been down this road before - plenty of times with those detainees released from Gitmo and have found their way back into the fight. Some have been killed in subsequent actions, and some have even inflicted casualties.

But the President was adhering to the mission of not leaving any of our soldiers behind - even ones that might be deserters, who should be subjected to UCMJ discipline if that holds to be the case. We should adjudicate on our own, and it also appears that Bergdahl had attempted escape once before, but was subsequently recaptured, so expect that to play into things as well.

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 11:47:00am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

It came from the fertile imagination of Jake Tapper.
Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero

Many of Bergdahl’s fellow troops — from the seven or so who knew him best in his squad to the larger group that made up the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division — told CNN that they signed nondisclosure agreements agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl’s disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. Some were willing to dismiss that document in hopes that the truth would come out about a soldier who they now fear is being hailed as a hero, while the men who lost their lives looking for him are ignored.

20 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 11:48:01am

It just gets better:

21 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 11:48:51am

re: #4 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Boy if I were an American GI I’d love to know that my rescue from torture and abuse depended on what the right-wing media thought of me.

Oh, no - they’d still be in favor of your rescue, as long as it didn’t happen under a Democrat. If it does, they’ll paint you as a traitor.

22 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 11:48:54am

It’s a good thing (for many reasons) that McCain and Palin are not Democrats. If they were, however, the GOP would now be asserting that we should have left McCain in the Hanoi Hilton just to prevent him from nominating her.

23 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 11:48:55am

re: #20 Lidane

It just gets better:

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This shit is getting old. Really go to hell Boehner you pathetic hack.

24 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 11:49:47am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

LOL at the Republican Retread Party.

Can a retread be applied to a tire that suffered a complete sidewall blowout?

Not that they won’t try it.

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 11:49:51am

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Repost for anyone who hasn’t read Jim Wright’s take.

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Don’t miss Jim’s follow-up in Facebook this morning!

My hatemail this morning is AWESOME.
It may be the most awesome hatemail I’ve ever gotten. I’ve been condemned to special bible hell (a lot), I’ve been called a [commie, traitor, fag, coward, pussy, ignorant, stupid, fucked up, clueless, asshole, unAmerican, Muslim, a tool of Satan (my personal favorite), and things I’m not really sure of because despite my extensive professional background in cryptology I’m unable to decode the gibberish], I’ve been threatened with death and maiming and Jesus missiles. And, of course, there’s the predictable swiftboating - which is a special kind of hypocritical douchebaggery, the kind I enjoy more than anything else (except for the tool of Satan thing), especially since it’s coming from people who compulsively jerk off every time they see the flag and who declare their undying love for all things military.

The rest at:
facebook.com

26 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 11:49:58am

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Repost for anyone who hasn’t read Jim Wright’s take.

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An excellent rant.

27 gwangung  Jun 3, 2014 11:50:13am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

new wingnut talking point!

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Gonna bet 95% of what she “learned” is innuendo and insinuations.

28 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 11:50:15am
29 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 11:52:06am

re: #26 wrenchwench

An excellent rant.

Well, actually… //

30 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 11:52:45am

re: #14 Lidane

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I try not to follow things that seem useless, so help me out here. Is the GOP seriously going to make a major issue and attempt to ruin this young soldier just to say “WE WERE RIGHT?”

31 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 11:53:05am
32 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 11:53:56am

re: #28 Lidane

Former Bush official blasts GOP on Bergdahl: Bush would have done the same thing bit.ly

Heh, they’ll probably tell him not to bring up Bush, that was 6+ years ago.

33 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 11:54:03am

DERP!!!

34 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 11:54:48am

re: #29 Gus

Well, actually… //

I know,

So angryyyyyyy

35 Hal_10000  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:10am

There’s a significant indication that this guy deserted his unit. Whether he did so because he had PTSD or for some other reason is an open question. The army is opening an investigation and I think they should. But the circumstances of his capture are independent of the question of whether you get him back or not. I don’t think we leave our own behind, even if they did desert.

The course of action seems pretty clear: you get him back because that’s what we do. Then you investigate whether he deserted and punish him if he did. These are not incompatible ideas.

36 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:23am

Weak.

37 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:25am
“Oh, I get it. I understand that frightened people become more and more irrational, especially when they are allowed, encouraged, to feed incestuously on each other’s fear. And I get that they are afraid. I can see it in their faces, I can hear it in their voices. I get that they’re afraid of change. I get that they’re afraid of the future. I get that they’re afraid of the past. And I get that they’re afraid of the present. I get that they’re afraid of losing power and privilege and prestige. I get that they’re afraid of their capricious and childishly vengeful god. I get that they’re afraid of different races and different cultures and different accents and different religions and different sexual orientations and different viewpoints and different politics. I get it, they’ve screamed their small fears over and over and only a dead man could possibly miss it.”

Why cant’ I rant this well?

Damn talent!

from the Stone Kettle Station post linked above.

38 iossarian  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:34am

re: #33 b.d.

DERP!!!

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The time has come. I call on the coffee machine to make me some more coffee.

39 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:34am

re: #33 b.d.

DERP!!!

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Yes, impeach the president over a POW rescue. That will go over so well Allen. Please try and please enjoy the egg on your pathetic party’s face when it backfires.

40 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:47am

re: #33 b.d.

DERP!!!

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Okay…someone around here already called that one. Step up and take your award.

41 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 3, 2014 11:55:49am

re: #33 b.d.

Wow. Tough talk for a guy who retired rather than face a court martial.

42 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 11:56:06am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

This is Breitbart’s London “correspondent.” Total wingnut.

43 Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2014 11:56:15am

re: #29 Gus

Well, actually… //

I will lose my shit if it happens again mind you.

44 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 11:56:24am

Didn’t some POTUS pardon the Vietman “conscious objectors”?

Did that include deserters?

45 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 11:56:56am
46 iossarian  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:07am

The time has come. I call on the elevator to come to my floor so that it can take me to another floor.

47 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:17am

re: #33 b.d.

DERP!!!

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Please proceed.

I can think of little else that will drive Democratic voter turnout to levels almost unprecedented for a mid-term.

Go right ahead, assclowns.

48 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:32am

So Allen West wants to impeach Bergdahl? //

49 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:42am
50 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:47am

re: #35 Hal_10000

There’s a significant indication that this guy deserted his unit. Whether he did so because he had PTSD or for some other reason is an open question. The army is opening an investigation and I think they should. But the circumstances of his capture are independent of the question of whether you get him back or not. I don’t think we leave our own behind, even if they did desert.

The course of action seems pretty clear: you get him back because that’s what we do. Then you investigate whether he deserted and punish him if he did. These are not incompatible ideas.

“Sigtnificant indication” in the information available to us stay-at-homes. The Army is quite capable of determining his duty status. Of course by then the facts will be drowned in the BS partisan rage tsunami.

51 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:54am

re: #34 wrenchwench

I know,

So angryyyyyyy

Maybe a bit too angry, but then maybe not. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

/

Been a fun morning, and I’ve actually gotten a few things done while jumping into this great fray.

Now it is time to really get to it. Later Lizards…keep the heat on!

52 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 11:57:57am

re: #46 iossarian

The time has come. I call on the elevator to come to my floor so that it can take me to another floor.

Scotty!!!!!

53 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 11:58:02am

re: #33 b.d.

Dear GOP.

Please proceed. Go on the record impeaching a President for bringing a POW home.

It will totally help you in the midterms and in 2016. Really.

Sincerely,
Me

54 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 11:58:10am

re: #38 iossarian

The time has come. I call on the coffee machine to make me some more coffee.

The time has come. I call on my MegaMillions numbers to hit tonight.

//

55 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 11:58:33am

re: #37 FemNaziBitch

Why cant’ I rant this well?

I think you can. Just need to work on the long-form rant.

56 Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2014 11:59:08am

re: #53 Lidane

Dear GOP.

Please proceed. Go on the record impeaching a President for bringing a POW home.

It will totally help you in the midterms and in 2016. Really.

Sincerely,
Me

They’ll see it as a step up from a blow job.

57 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 11:59:42am

re: #56 Stanley Sea

They’ll see it as a step up from a blow job.

Hell these are the folks that think health care reform is tyranny.

58 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:00:21pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

I think you can. Just need to work on the long-form rant.

Yep. Actually, Jim’s longer rants are much better. //

59 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:00:47pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

They’ll see it as a step up from a blow job.

You said blow job! //

60 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:00:56pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Hell these are the folks that think health care reform is tyranny.

Except when done by their Presidential candidate.

61 piratedan  Jun 3, 2014 12:01:20pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

because Glenn Greenwald said so, witness anytime that anyone has used his own statements or Snowden’s against him to illustrate their own hypocrisy. As evidence, any GOP proposal that was accepted by Democrats as being a good thing to enact over the last six years…

jaysus doesn’t anyone over there perform the least bit of self editing or self examination or do they perpetually just lip off whatever the strategy du juor is with no thought whatsover to their past deeds and statements.

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 12:01:24pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Repost for anyone who hasn’t read Jim Wright’s take.

Read it already and he hammered the point straight home.

63 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:01:32pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

I think you can. Just need to work on the long-form rant.

Honestly, I don’t need the high-blood pressure.

64 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:04pm

re: #59 Gus

You said blow job! //

Can you photoshop GG on to that?

:0

65 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:12pm

My sister introduced me to Stonekettle’s blog (Jim Wright).

66 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:22pm
67 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:24pm

it seems a genuine scandal like the va is too boring for wingnuts

68 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:32pm

re: #41 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Wow. Tough talk for a guy who retired rather than face a court martial.

As I understand it, he was given the choice of quietly retiring and keeping his pension or facing a court-martial and possibly doing jail time in addition to forefeiting all benefits. And that he was “encouraged” to retire to save the Army the embarrassment of court-martialing him.

69 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:35pm

re: #64 FemNaziBitch

Can you photoshop GG on to that?

:0

Can I just favorite this comment? //

70 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:02:39pm

re: #65 Gus

My sister introduced me to Stonekettle’s blog (Jim Wright).

Many thanks to Gus’s sister!!!!!

71 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:03:02pm

I am going to enjoy re: #66 Kragar

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And the Soviets during the Cold War etc etc.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 12:03:11pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

Can a retread be applied to a tire that suffered a complete sidewall blowout?

Not that they won’t try it.

All long as it was a whitewall tire - sure.
// :P

73 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:03:39pm

WHY DID THEY MAKE HIS UNIT SIGN NON DISCLOSURE FORMS!!!!!!!

Benghazi 2.0

74 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:03:39pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

As I understand it, he was given the choice of quietly retiring and keeping his pension or facing a court-martial and possibly doing jail time in addition to forefeiting all benefits. And that he was “encouraged” to retire to save the Army the embarrassment of court-martialing him.

And this is the kind of guy that becomes a GOP Superstar in the 21st century.

75 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:04:03pm

re: #67 dog philosopher

it seems a genuine scandal like the va is too boring for wingnuts

Because the VA scandal can’t just be confined to Obama’s administration. It’s big, messy, and even involves a Republican POTUS. Can’t allow that.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:04:50pm

This is actually a lesson in anti-Muslim bigotry. Stay classy Janie, but that’s what you do all day at the country club.

77 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:04:57pm

New Study Reveals a Surprising Relationship Between Televised Sports and Crime

I’m really horrible at statistics and such. How does the influx of the Rape for Profit industry figure into all this?

78 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 12:05:44pm

re: #66 Kragar

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Shit, we’ve negotiated time and again with terrorists, we just referred to them as our “allies” while doing it. OBL was our buddy all through the 80s, we allowed the Taliban to come to America to negotiate with Unocal, we were pumping money and weapons into Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War, and I don’t think anybody really has forgotten what we were during with Iran and the Contras.

And hell, we’ve not even touched on the hundreds of Gitmo detainees we released, many who went back to the battlefield, for absolutely no gain whatsoever.

79 blueraven  Jun 3, 2014 12:06:10pm

No wonder the daily beast is such a cesspool

80 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:06:25pm

re: #76 Pie-onist Overlord

This is actually a lesson in anti-Muslim bigotry. Stay classy Janie, but that’s what you do all day at the country club.

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81 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 12:06:27pm

re:
#73
Pie-onist Overlord

Who gave the stand-down order on the no-disclosure forms???!??!11

Also too:
Pentagon Report!11!1

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:06:29pm

re: #38 iossarian

The time has come. I call on the coffee machine to make me some more coffee.

Yell at it first. I hear that makes it more cooperative.

83 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:06:35pm

re: #35 Hal_10000

There’s a significant indication that this guy deserted his unit. Whether he did so because he had PTSD or for some other reason is an open question. The army is opening an investigation and I think they should. But the circumstances of his capture are independent of the question of whether you get him back or not. I don’t think we leave our own behind, even if they did desert.

The course of action seems pretty clear: you get him back because that’s what we do. Then you investigate whether he deserted and punish him if he did. These are not incompatible ideas.

Even if Bergdahl were a deserter, leaving him in the hands of the Taliban would hardly be a suitable punishment. It’s easy to understand why a prisoner abusing lowlife like Allen West might think otherwise though.

84 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:04pm

Anyone ever read this book. Is it worth reading —will it give me any insights to the male?

85 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:17pm

I hate to use the word evil but these people come close to it.

86 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:22pm
87 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:29pm

sacré bleu!!!

Calling Out Ideologically Driven Media, Sharyl Attkisson Lands At Heritage

mediamatters.org

88 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:32pm

re: #54 b.d.

The time has come. I call on my MegaMillions numbers to hit tonight.

//

“The time has come,” the Walrus said,
“To talk of many things:
Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
Of cabbages—and kings—
And why the sea is boiling hot—
And whether pigs have wings.”

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:43pm

re: #29 Gus

Well, actually… //

I just ignored it and posted SadCat tweets instead.

90 missliberties  Jun 3, 2014 12:07:59pm

Do folks think that the soldiers who died looking for this guy really wanted him to stay in Taliban hands and be tortured forever? I don’t think so. T

The question to ask would be when the War in Afghanistan is ‘officially’ over, what would have happened in the US had we left this one POW left in the field.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:08:05pm

re: #80 Gus

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92 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:09:19pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

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What kind of guns to Good Beards carry?

:0

93 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 12:09:32pm

re:
#79

She sounds nice….

94 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:09:34pm

I know what will happen if I respond to this idiot.

95 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:10:23pm

re: #87 b.d.

sacré bleu!!!

mediamatters.org

Now that’s what you call ironic.

96 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 12:10:44pm

re:
#94

You’ll get “introduced” to all this guy’s hate-fueled followers….

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:10:58pm

She also thinks Obama is a SEEKRIT MUSLIM
Oh and she’s a Birther too.

98 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:11:05pm

guys with beards that long, what is the purpose?

Do they have to use conditioner and de-tangler to keep it in line?

99 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:11:48pm

Technically *ahem* anyone who seeks G-d is a muslim—no?

100 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:12:08pm

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

guys with beards that long, what is the purpose?

Do they have to use conditioner and de-tangler to keep it in line?

I knew a guy who had a stick-straight beard. Zedushka said he bet he put his chin on an ironing board.

101 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 12:12:15pm
102 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:12:20pm

Viking style, braided with beads looks so much better than that matted mass of stuff haning off the chin.

103 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:12:27pm

Meanwhile, Wikileaks is retweeting white supremacists:

104 Petero1818  Jun 3, 2014 12:12:49pm

This rush to judgement is insane. I would add as well that even if he was in the act of desertion he is entitled to the same protections that every other soldier has until such time as he has had a fair hearing. Beyond that, I do believe that within days of the GOP hammering this administration for their bungling the care provided for veterans (Shinseki), the same group is condemning this guy as a traitor a coward and all sorts of things, when desertion may in fact be caused by PTSD. Not saying it was, or even that he was a deserter, but the incongruity is obscene. If all that we are hearing is true, it is possible that the military knew or ought to have known that this soldier was in distress. What did they do about it? I am not convinced the GOP really cares about soldiers as much as they care about politics.

105 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:13:13pm

re: #100 Pie-onist Overlord

I knew a guy who had a stick-straight beard. Zedushka said he bet he put his chin on an ironing board.

It’s just what you are used to, I guess.

I’m used to guys with “winter beards”.

106 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:13:18pm
107 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:13:45pm

re: #106 Pie-onist Overlord

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Mean but I burst out laughing.

108 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:13:47pm

re: #106 Pie-onist Overlord

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Her eyes just ain’t right.

109 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 12:14:03pm

re: #101 Dr. Matt

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Fact of the matter is the Pentagon hasn’t confirmed much besides his being in their custody at the moment. That the Army hasn’t already drug him off for an Artcle 32 hearing does not mean that they’re covering something up, which I’ve heard more than one wingnut assert.

110 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 12:14:21pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Wikileaks is retweeting white supremacists:

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WE THOUGHT THE WHITE RESISTER WAS AN ELECTRICAL SUPPLY HOUSE!

111 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:14:30pm

Phil DuckBro wears that beard so he always has something to eat. You can dig around and come up with all kinds of snacks.

112 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 12:14:40pm

re: #106 Pie-onist Overlord

I laffed

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:14:47pm

re: #90 missliberties

Do folks think that the soldiers who died looking for this guy really wanted him to stay in Taliban hands and be tortured forever? I don’t think so. T

The question to ask would be when the War in Afghanistan is ‘officially’ over, what would have happened in the US had we left this one POW left in the field.

Or, to turn this around back at the wingnuts, why would they prefer he stay with the Taliban and keep spilling sekrets?
/only half

114 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 12:15:36pm

re: #108 FemNaziBitch

Her eyes just ain’t right.

They aren’t hers. She has empty sockets and takes a pair from a new victim every fortnight.
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115 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:15:48pm

re: #111 nines09

Phil DuckBro wears that beard so he always has something to eat. You can dig around and come up with all kinds of snacks.

Please, have some consideration for the lizards on the west coast, where it is lunchtime.

116 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 12:15:50pm

I need a break from this, gonna go kill so aliens on XCOM. At least there, the world makes some bit of sense. BBL

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:16:00pm

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

guys with beards that long, what is the purpose?

Do they have to use conditioner and de-tangler to keep it in line?

Conditioner or de-tangler???
DD Commander doesn’t even know how to use a comb or brush.

118 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 12:16:44pm

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

guys with beards that long, what is the purpose?

Do they have to use conditioner and de-tangler to keep it in line?

To avoid shaving.

Hair brush is sufficient, conditioner is nice.

119 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:16:53pm
120 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:17:42pm

re: #119 Gus

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What the fuck.

121 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:18:39pm

So not only is the right wing scream machine bigoted and filled with hate, they are now judge, jury and executioner. Amazingly they are professionals at every aspect of life and living. War makes normal people do crazy things and all this guy did was sign the fuck up to serve. Stress disorder? Go a little off? I have friends who are still not all the way back from ‘Nam. Jerkoff Right Wing Jeroffs just continue to Jerkoff.

122 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:20:46pm

Leave no man behind, unless he is suspected of desertion or some other impropriety, since it is a sacred American principle to let people be tortured and beheaded on suspicion.
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The GOP has turned into a mob of deranged howler monkeys, without even the pretense of consistency or principle.

123 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:21:28pm

Guilty until proven innocent. Say people who claim to be patriots and revere the Constitution. Nice job assholes.

124 Amory Blaine  Jun 3, 2014 12:21:43pm

How am I supposed to talk to these people? I’m depressed. =(

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 12:21:44pm

Christ what a stupid tool.

126 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:22:19pm

re: #111 nines09

Phil DuckBro wears that beard so he always has something to eat. You can dig around and come up with all kinds of snacks.

You might have to kill some of them first though.

127 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:22:23pm

You live in a Primary State this year? PLEASE VOTE and encourage others to do so.

128 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:22:31pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

Leave no man behind, unless he is suspected of desertion or some other impropriety, since it is a sacred American principle to let people be tortured and beheaded on suspicion.
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The GOP has turned into a mob of deranged howler monkeys, without even the pretense of consistency or principle.

Guilty according to some of using a Rosetta Stone software program to learn the language of the nation where he was serving. It’s like David Horowitz’s outrage de jour over Arabic being taught in more schools in the US.

129 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 12:22:43pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Wikileaks is retweeting white supremacists:

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It’s just for relevance, though, not necessarily alignment.

So, it’s like, OK and stuff.

130 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:23:03pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Guilty until proven innocent. Say people who claim to be patriots and revere the Constitution. Nice job assholes.

The only part of the Constitution they revere is the Second Amendment. Everything else is details.

131 Justanotherhuman  Jun 3, 2014 12:23:09pm

Congrats, Gus, Charles and LGF for the recognition.

Now if only someone in the MSM would make the proper connections like you’ve managed to do here.

I’m not holding my breath, though.

132 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:23:25pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel

You might have to kill some of them first though.

He lives for that. Doesn’t even have to call them in….

133 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:23:52pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel

You might have to kill some of them first though.

slippery but satisfying?

134 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:24:10pm

re: #130 Lidane

The only part of the Constitution they revere is the Second Amendment. Everything else is details.

Yep.

135 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 12:24:23pm

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

You live in a Primary State this year? PLEASE VOTE and encourage others to do so.

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Off to do that right now.

136 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:24:30pm

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

You live in a Primary State this year? PLEASE VOTE and encourage others to do so.

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This morning my wife insisted I got through the primary ballot and tell her who to vote for. She DID agree to look into the Superintendent of Public Instruction race, being a credentialed, if unemployed, teacher.

I’m not sure this is the best use of the franchise…

137 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:24:31pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Guilty according to some of using a Rosetta Stone software program to learn the language of the nation where he was serving. It’s like David Horowitz’s outrage de jour over Arabic being taught in more schools in the US.

Soldiers learning language and customs is nothing new.
Remind me who it was that said we’re going to war to win hearts and minds?

138 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:24:49pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Guilty according to some of using a Rosetta Stone software program to learn the language of the nation where he was serving. It’s like David Horowitz’s outrage de jour over Arabic being taught in more schools in the US.

Because learning the language of the people you’re fighting against is totally useless during a war.

WTF.

139 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:25:01pm

re: #131 Justanotherhuman

Congrats, Gus, Charles and LGF for the recognition.

Now if only someone in the MSM would make the proper connections like you’ve managed to do here.

I’m not holding my breath, though.

Second this, major props to Charles, Gus, and all the others who have exposed the right’s boldface hypocrisy on the rescue of Sgt. Bergdahl.

140 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:25:19pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

It’s just for relevance, though, not necessarily alignment.

So, it’s like, OK and stuff.

CONTEXT!!!11!!

141 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:25:50pm

re: #138 Lidane

Because learning the language of the people you’re fighting against is totally useless during a war.

WTF.

Have a family member who majored in Arabic Studies after 9/11. I think a lot of young people did that. Just like Condi Rice specialized in Russia during the Cold War.

142 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:25:52pm

Looks at referrers. :D

143 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:26:03pm

re: #133 FemNaziBitch

slippery but satisfying?

Crunchy. Salty and sweet. The wings are delicate. The antennae have a hint of garlic.

144 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:26:21pm

re: #138 Lidane

Because learning the language of the people you’re fighting against is totally useless during a war.

WTF.

Yep as useless as actually learning about the religion of Islam from sources that aren’t Robert Spencer or Pamela Geller.

145 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 12:26:45pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Fact of the matter is the Pentagon hasn’t confirmed much besides his being in their custody at the moment. That the Army hasn’t already drug him off for an Artcle 32 hearing does not mean that they’re covering something up, which I’ve heard more than one wingnut assert.

Exactly. Yet they are “reports” that:
* 6, 8, and 14 men died looking for him
* he was helping the Taliban make bombs
* the Army has designated him as a deserter
* he has renounced his citizenship

146 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:26:47pm
147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:26:49pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel

You might have to kill some of them first though.

I just got an icky flash back to Marlin Perkins…

148 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:27:11pm

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

Have a family member who majored in Arabic Studies after 9/11. I think a lot of young people did that. Just like Condi Rice specialized in Russia during the Cold War.

It’s very common. Hell you’d think that ultra-hawks like Horowitz would want more people learning Arabic but I digress since guys like this are clearly motivated by hatred above all else.

149 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:28:16pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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Well yes, this is the common theme among conservatives. You can’t have shades of gray. If Sgt. Bergdahl isn’t a hero in the sense that Audie Murphy was then that must mean eh’s a traitorous scoundrel who deserves punishment.

150 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:28:36pm

I am UNBELIEVABLY SWEET.

Yeah, this test/quiz is bogus.

151 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:28:56pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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Perfect example of flawed poll premise. How about human being at war. Who knows anything yet? The gray area slowly fades to nothing.

152 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:29:00pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just got an icky flash back to Marlin Perkins…

You have a squirrel?

153 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 12:29:23pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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Real heroes don’t let themselves get captured.
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154 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:29:31pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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It’s always a zero-sum game.

Learned about it right here at LGF!

155 MomSense  Jun 3, 2014 12:30:02pm

Not sure if this has been posted yet but No More Mister Nice Blog has Ollie North facebook post from 2011 wanting everyone to wear “never forget” POW/MIA bracelets in support of Bergdahl.

Bonus Fox News segments on the subject as well.

Link

156 GunstarGreen  Jun 3, 2014 12:30:26pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

I hate to use the word evil but these people come close to it.

No, they don’t come close. They are Evil, with a capital E, full stop.

Today has made me, for the first time in my life, ashamed to be a part of this country. To be part of a nation that has allowed this to happen. That has allowed this kind of festering, puss-filled Evil to rise up within it. To have allowed simpering, parasitic worms to draw some of the highest salaries in the nation by taking to their public platforms and spewing this, this disgusting bile that would besmirch the name of one of our troops in the name of attacking a black man they can’t stand having some power.

This disgusting shit makes me want to puke. I can hardly breathe I’m so mind-blowingly, froth-slinging enraged.

Around half the country supports this bullshit. Half. This is some seriously Evil Shit, and it has got to stop.

157 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:30:28pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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Well, I was neither hero nor deserter. No wonder I can’t be a Republican anymore.

158 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:30:34pm

re: #155 MomSense

Not sure if this has been posted yet but No More Mister Nice Blog has Ollie North facebook post from 2011 wanting everyone to wear “never forget” POW/MIA bracelets in support of Bergdahl.

Bonus Fox News segments on the subject as well.

Link

That was before they knew him.

159 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:30:56pm

Its Time To Class Feminism As a Terrorist Group

I guess I’m an international criminal.

160 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:31:20pm

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

Christ what a stupid tool.

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Actually, the correct answer to ‘Has anyone ever explained this?’ is

‘Yes. It was made up to fool gullible chumps like you, to delegitimize the duly elected (and reelected) President of the United States by people who have no scruples about using stupid gullible, hatefilled loudmouths like you as tools. Why aren’t you ashamed at being used?’

161 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:32:00pm

re: #159 FemNaziBitch

Its Time To Class Feminism As a Terrorist Group

I guess I’m an international criminal.

Halt you’re under arrest by order of the boogermeister.

162 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:32:20pm

re: #150 FemNaziBitch

I am UNBELIEVABLY SWEET.

Yeah, this test/quiz is bogus.

Hey, me too! I was trying for ‘Irretrievably Depraved’.

163 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 12:32:29pm
164 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 12:32:45pm

July 20, 2009: Was Bergdahl a Deserter? Back to the Rape Analogy
mypetjawa.mu.nu

Was the reason that Pvt. Bowe Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban because he was a deserter?

Short answer: I don’t care.

Long answer: I don’t care, he’s an American (one of us) and the Taliban are our enemies in a hot war. They have one of our soldiers.

Even if the Taliban took Michael Moore hostage I’d have a similar response.

Michael Moore is a douche, but he’s our douche.

No person deserves the fate of a hostage in the hands of the Taliban. I’m told by a friend that Islamists are having a field day over at a certain well known forum contrasting how well Bergdahl is being treated by the Taliban with how poorly the US treats its POWs captured in the War on Terror.

165 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:33:30pm

Weather is looking serious in Nebraska right now.

166 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:33:40pm

Illinois Lizards:

CAASE IN THE NEWS: Tune in to NBC Chicago tonight at 10PM for a special on Human Trafficking.

Learn more about our End Demand Illinois campaign’s legislative intitiative, SB 3558 which passed the Illinois General Assembly last week and will create new funding streams for survivors of sex traffciking.
Watch a live stream, or tune in to Channel 5, tonight at 10pm.

167 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:33:52pm

re: #163 Kragar

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Yes, let’s impeach the president over returning a POW. Said everyone ever who had no real ideology except I hate the president and everything he does gives me ragegasms.

168 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:35:20pm

re: #156 GunstarGreen

No, they don’t come close. They are Evil, with a capital E, full stop.

Today has made me, for the first time in my life, ashamed to be a part of this country. To be part of a nation that has allowed this to happen. That has allowed this kind of festering, puss-filled Evil to rise up within it. To have allowed simpering, parasitic worms to draw some of the highest salaries in the nation by taking to their public platforms and spewing this, this disgusting bile that would besmirch the name of one of our troops in the name of attacking a black man they can’t stand having some power.

This disgusting shit makes me want to puke. I can hardly breathe I’m so mind-blowingly, froth-slinging enraged.

Around half the country supports this bullshit. Half. This is some seriously Evil Shit, and it has got to stop.

I’m becoming a cynic more and more everyday. It’s not just the crap one reads on the internet, it’s what one hears on the streets, at little league games, etc.

169 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:35:46pm
170 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:36:23pm

One wants to be an optimist in this world because one does know the greatness human beings are capable of. But one becomes a cynic when every act of greatness can have 10 other acts that are equally horrible.

171 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:37:08pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

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We should be so lucky.

172 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:37:16pm

re: #136 GeneJockey

This morning my wife insisted I got through the primary ballot and tell her who to vote for. She DID agree to look into the Superintendent of Public Instruction race, being a credentialed, if unemployed, teacher.

I’m not sure this is the best use of the franchise…

I could rant about your wife, but I won’t. There have been times in which I was too involved in other matters (having a baby), that I didn’t pay attention and just voted the party line. (Like Clinton’s first bid in which I voted for the other guy *ggt hangs head*.)

Overall, tho I think that delegating one’s vote that way is running from adulthood.

173 Mattand  Jun 3, 2014 12:37:28pm

re: #155 MomSense

Not sure if this has been posted yet but No More Mister Nice Blog has Ollie North facebook post from 2011 wanting everyone to wear “never forget” POW/MIA bracelets in support of Bergdahl.

Bonus Fox News segments on the subject as well.

Link

I’m really going to miss Colbert when he goes “normal” and takes over the Late Show. He was ridiculing this whole “We wanted Bergdahl free until the no-clang went and did it!” mentality.

I sometimes wonder if Obama wakes up in the middle of the night realizing he’s in a real life reenactment of Blazing Saddles.

174 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 12:37:56pm

Yes, impeaching a president for freeing an American POW…..the right finds one more low to sink to.

175 Mike Lamb  Jun 3, 2014 12:37:57pm

Wouldn’t the GOP want Bergdahl back either way—i.e. whether he’s a hero or a deserter? Let’s suppose that it’s the latter—wouldn’t the GOP want him to face the music?

I mean I understand that it’s really about making Obama look bad, but at the same time, if they believe he deserted, I’d think they’d be glad that we get the chance to investigate/punish as necessary…

176 MomSense  Jun 3, 2014 12:38:21pm

re: #158 nines09

They even discussed the possibility that he had left his post on FOX in 2009 but of course they had a different opinion then.

Fox host Julie Banderas said, “Regardless of what the situation is, we do not want to see any U.S. soldier in harm’s way. And we hope that this guy gets out of there safely. He’s an American — he’s one of ours.”

Wonder what changed.

177 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 12:38:32pm
178 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:38:48pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

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How many bridges could be repaired/rebuilt with the money wasted on impeachment trials?

179 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:39:05pm

re: #176 MomSense

They even discussed the possibility that he had left his post on FOX in 2009 but of course they had a different opinion then.

Wonder what changed.

election year?

180 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 12:39:05pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Yes, let’s impeach the president over returning a POW. Said everyone ever who had no real ideology except I hate the president and everything he does gives me ragegasms.

If the GOP seriously makes an effort to impeach President Obama, all they will effectively do is seal their own fate.

Furious Democrats will turn out in droves - furthermore, the GOP doesn’t even have anything remotely close to the two-thirds in the Senate to remove President Obama.

So please…..go for it, RWNJ’s.

181 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 3, 2014 12:39:35pm

re: #164 Dr. Matt

An uncommon sentiment for that rabble.

182 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:39:37pm

re: #173 Mattand

I’m really going to miss Colbert when he goes “normal” and takes over the Late Show. He was ridiculing this whole “We wanted Bergdahl free until the no-clang went and did it!” mentality.

I sometimes wonder if Obama wakes up in the middle of the night realizing he’s in a real life reenactment of Blazing Saddles.

Except in Blazing Saddles, the people of Rock Ridge came to like their ni-clang sheriff. I really and I hate to sound hyperbolic feel that our right would probably side with Hitler over Obama if those circumstances had happened. Again I hate saying it but man when you see them shit on the POTUS for getting a POW free, you start to believe that they’re capable of anything. I’m really starting to lose my patience with conservatives. I do blame them for enabling the bigotry.

183 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:41:53pm
184 piratedan  Jun 3, 2014 12:41:57pm

what has to be infuriating for the GOP is that the Obama Presidency has probably been the most corruption and scandal free set of terms for the last 100 years, if not all of American history. Unsure if that will be the case 20 years from now, but in this environment of hyper investigative journalism and knee-jerk partisan reactions, there’s been pretty much bupkis to hang around the head of this President. I think that it is exponentially causing the GOP to lose its ever lovin’ mind and as such, anything, ANYTHING that gets mandated by the WH is seen as apocalyptic.

185 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:42:03pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I’m becoming a cynic more and more everyday. It’s not just the crap one reads on the internet, it’s what one hears on the streets, at little league games, etc.

Cuteness Break!

186 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:42:36pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

Leave no man behind, unless he is suspected of desertion or some other impropriety, since it is a sacred American principle to let people be tortured and beheaded on suspicion.
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The GOP has turned into a is a mob of deranged howler monkeys, without even the pretense of consistency or principle.

FTFY

187 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 12:43:13pm

I recently read The Ghost Soldiers, Hampton Sides’s epic story of the Cabanatuan PoW rescue in 1945.

There were almost certainly deserters, cowards, thieves, and collaborators among the 500+ American prisoners rescued from the Japanese prison camp. The Rangers and Filipino guerillas who carried out the rescue never gave this a moment’s thought and would probably have assaulted anyone who suggested they should.

188 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:43:42pm

re: #176 MomSense

They even discussed the possibility that he had left his post on FOX in 2009 but of course they had a different opinion then.

Wonder what changed.

Obama is POTUS and he did not clear it with the True Republican Leadership.

189 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:43:54pm

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

I could rant about your wife, but I won’t. There have been times in which I was too involved in other matters (having a baby), that I didn’t pay attention and just voted the party line. (Like Clinton’s first bid in which I voted for the other guy *ggt hangs head*.)

Overall, tho I think that delegating one’s vote that way is running from adulthood.

To be fair, it’s a primary election in a state where one party controls the statewide offices and the legislature, in a district where a Republican couldn’t get elected, so it’s largely a formality. BUT, it’s a formality she wants to carry out, rather than blowing off.

So, there’s that.

AND we pretty much agree on everything anyway. She even likes the Challenger, since I bought it in a pretty color.
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190 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:44:11pm

I case you ever wondered.

191 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:44:49pm

re: #189 GeneJockey

To be fair, it’s a primary election in a state where one party controls the statewide offices and the legislature, in a district where a Republican couldn’t get elected, so it’s largely a formality. BUT, it’s a formality she wants to carry out, rather than blowing off.

So, there’s that.

AND we pretty much agree on everything anyway. She even likes the Challenger, since I bought it in a pretty color.
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Challenger —the car?

(same as shoes)

Car colors matter.

192 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 12:45:02pm

re: #186 nines09

The GOP has turned into a is a mob of deranged howler monkeys, without even the pretense of consistency or principle.

FTFY

Yep….and if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS in 2016, I can only imagine the shrill shrieking at that point.

193 Mattand  Jun 3, 2014 12:45:09pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Except in Blazing Saddles, the people of Rock Ridge came to like their ni-clang sheriff. I really and I hate to sound hyperbolic feel that our right would probably side with Hitler over Obama if those circumstances had happened. Again I hate saying it but man when you see them shit on the POTUS for getting a POW free, you start to believe that they’re capable of anything. I’m really starting to lose my patience with conservatives. I do blame them for enabling the bigotry.

LOL, no need to apologize. I’m not sure if Godwin applies when it’s true. These idiots were wallowing in Putin Envy a few weeks back and he’s pretty much trying purge Russia of as many gays as possible.

It’s not that far of a stretch to see today’s Republicans going “Well, Hitler was a uniter!”

194 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:45:47pm

Hey! Thing are too bad today:

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 06/03/2014

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Pollen & Mold Summary
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Trees: Moderate Concentration
Weeds: Low Concentration
Grass: Moderate Concentration
Mold: High Concentration

195 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 12:46:11pm

From today’s Townhall email; still banging the drum.

“ahem”

196 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:46:13pm

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

Yep….and if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS in 2016, I can only imagine the shrill shrieking at that point.

The most insidious rants will be from women.

197 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:46:14pm

The military will investigate the circumstances around his capture. The Taliban says he was drunk. His platoon mates say he deserted. Bergdahl says he was captured when he lagged behind on patrol. Investigate that all you want. If he acted negligently or maliciously, then he should be dealt with appropriately. But under no circumstances do we leave our own behind. Period.

198 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:46:50pm

re: #193 Mattand

LOL, no need to apologize. I’m not sure if Godwin applies when it’s true. These idiots were wallowing in Putin Envy a few weeks back and he’s pretty much trying purge Russia of as many gays as possible.

It’s not that far of a stretch to see today’s Republicans going “Well, Hitler was a uniter!”

I know. It’s just as someone descended from Nazi atrocity victims. I’m extremely reluctant to do that. But damn it’s this and the crap I continue to hear people spew.

199 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:46:50pm

re: #195 jaunte

From today’s Townhall email; still banging the drum.

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“ahem”

It’s obvious, they fed him so well and he didn’t need any medical treatment when he returned.

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200 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:47:31pm

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

Yep….and if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS in 2016, I can only imagine the shrill shrieking at that point.

Think of Shit Storm and Monkey House and Jackals and Hyenas in full throated lunacy. With Foaming.

201 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:47:48pm

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

Cuteness Break!

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There we go.

202 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 12:48:21pm

re: #199 FemNaziBitch

The source for that story:

“A senior official confirms to Fox News”
“The Pentagon official”
“sources”

A. Nonny Mouse

203 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 3, 2014 12:48:28pm

204 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:48:39pm

Please proceed, wingnuts:

205 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 3, 2014 12:48:57pm

I want to spit on these assholes. They support, without hesitation, those soldiers that have been found guilty of murdering Iraqi/Afghani families/locals. And they supported the Abu Ghraib idiots. But you suddenly have a black Democrat with a foreign sounding name as President, and as far as they are concerned, a 5 year POW who may or may not have left his post for whatever reason, should have just been left to die, when only months ago, they were calling for his release/rescue, whatever the cost.

Fuck these people.

206 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:49:47pm

re: #191 FemNaziBitch

Challenger —the car?

(same as shoes)

Car colors matter.

She was torn, originally - she thinks white is the best color for cars because it’s so visible and doesn’t fade. But in white, the Challenger just looks so BIG, and apparently ‘Midlife Crisis-y’.

In the blue I got it in, it is not only acceptable, it’s downright pretty!

207 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:49:50pm
208 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 12:49:54pm

re: #200 nines09

Think of Shit Storm and Monkey House and Jackals and Hyenas in full throated lunacy. With Foaming.

I think that might be an……understated image, actually.

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:49:59pm

re: #203 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

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Sounds like a GOP wet dream.

210 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 3, 2014 12:50:06pm

re: #204 Lidane

We should note that, if Lopez’s analysis were right, the White House was likely already “claimed” for Islam long ago — in December 1805, at an Iftar dinner hosted by President Thomas Jefferson.

211 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 12:50:08pm

re: #203 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

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“Weird Orgies”

As opposed to the good old fashioned normal every day orgies

212 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 12:50:16pm

Mad Magazine goes full metal wingnut.

213 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:50:17pm

re: #204 Lidane

Please proceed, wingnuts:

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West is a ghoulish fucker who instead of spreading smear campaigns should just enjoy his retirement happy that he didn’t get his pathetic ass court-martialed out of our military. Only in wingnutfuckheadistan is this guy to be admired but Bergdahl to be treated like a terrorist.

214 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:50:45pm

re: #206 GeneJockey

She was torn, originally - she thinks white is the best color for cars because it’s so visible and doesn’t fade. But in white, the Challenger just looks so BIG, and apparently ‘Midlife Crisis-y’.

In the blue I got it in, it is not only acceptable, it’s downright pretty!

I see her point, but white also blends in too well with the snow.

Besides, it shows all the dirt.

215 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:51:05pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like a GOP wet dream.

minus the rent boys

216 MomSense  Jun 3, 2014 12:51:14pm

re: #173 Mattand

I sometimes wonder if Obama wakes up in the middle of the night realizing he’s in a real life reenactment of Blazing Saddles.

I think we are all waking up in the night wondering if we are stuck in a Blazing Saddles reenactment.

217 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 12:51:21pm

re: #204 Lidane

Please proceed, wingnuts:

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LOLOLOL

WIngnuts. So it’s the ‘White Mosque’ now?

Bismillah al-Rahman ar-Rahim! Alhamdulillah! Allahu Akbar!

*headdesk*

218 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:51:46pm

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

I could have worded it as “Making a……..Look sane.” That might be a better idea. I concur.

219 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:52:10pm

re: #216 MomSense

I think we are all waking up in the night wondering if we are stuck in a Blazing Saddles reenactment.

not me

I’m convinced you-all are a product of my addled brain and I am in a continual hallucination of my own madness.

220 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:52:21pm

re: #207 Gus

221 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:52:28pm

I almost want Obama to find some openly lesbian Muslim person and nominate that person to a position that has to be confirmed by the Senate just so we could get the full head explosion of the homophobes and Islamaphobes.

222 Petero1818  Jun 3, 2014 12:52:32pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Even Darth Vader had more latitude!

223 lawhawk  Jun 3, 2014 12:52:44pm

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

I’ll go and vote, but in nearly every slot, the candidates are running unopposed. That’s absolutely pathetic, and it shows just how the parties at the local level are failing their constituents. You get unopposed races in the primaries, and often the parties will cede the races to the other party or put up a token opponent. So, whoever wins the primary wins the general.

And we get more of the same. [deleted]

224 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:53:03pm

re: #220 Lidane

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oh yeah, the beard.

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 12:53:12pm

re: #220 Lidane

Calvinist - Islamist. What difference?
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226 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:53:30pm

re: #220 Lidane

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Preston Brooks for those who don’t know was the Congressman who attacked Charles Sumner with a cane. A fellow South Carolinan of Todd’s and an all around shithead.

227 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:53:46pm

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Calvinist - Islamist. What difference?
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One has an entire clothing line —mostly jeans.

228 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 12:54:22pm

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

One has an entire clothing line —mostly jeans.

And no fear of tigers either.

229 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:54:30pm

re: #220 Lidane

Todd is one tough hombre ain’t he? He makes mold spore look intelligent.

230 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 12:55:26pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

Mad Magazine goes full metal wingnut.

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Lame. Weak Photoshop. Too political for MAD. Must be the new MAD I’ve never seen before.

231 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:55:34pm

re: #229 nines09

Todd is one tough hombre ain’t he? He makes mold spore look intelligent.

Todd makes Jim Hoft look like a reasonable adult. That’s saying something. Amazing to know that he’s been elected before. That’s the kind of shit that brings out the cynic.

232 Mike Lamb  Jun 3, 2014 12:55:39pm

re: #195 jaunte

From today’s Townhall email; still banging the drum.

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“ahem”

Let’s parse this a bit:

1) Given that he was in captivity for 5 years, what critical information would he have after, say, the first 2 months?

2) If he had value as a collaborator, wouldn’t the Taliban have been more likely to keep him?

3) If he had value as a collaborator, wouldn’t they have kept him a bit healthier?

4) If he was a collaborator, why would he have attempted to escape?

233 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:56:38pm

re: #232 Mike Lamb

Let’s parse this a bit:

1) Given that he was in captivity for 5 years, what critical information would he have after, say, the first 2 months?

2) If he had value as a collaborator, wouldn’t the Taliban have been more likely to keep him?

3) If he had value as a collaborator, wouldn’t they have kept him a bit healthier?

4) If he was a collaborator, why would he have attempted to escape?

I guess they think this is a real live version of Homeland.

234 Ian G.  Jun 3, 2014 12:56:51pm

re: #220 Lidane

“Preston Brooks”? Poe’s Law strikes again, as I can’t tell if this is real or satire twitter.

235 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:57:00pm

re: #232 Mike Lamb

You’re trying to apply logic to a bunch of RWNJ idiocy. Won’t work.

236 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:57:11pm

I know nothing of the Common Core debate, but this story has a video of a dog.
In Kentucky, Moving Beyond Dependence On Tests

237 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 12:57:36pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Todd makes Jim Hoft look like a reasonable adult. That’s saying something. Amazing to know that he’s been elected before. That’s the kind of shit that brings out the cynic.

I do not see anything to admire or regard as intelligent or useful from any of them. Not. One. Thing.

238 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 12:57:40pm

re: #228 Feline Fearless Leader

And no fear of tigers either.

A healthy respect.

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 12:57:45pm

ouch ouch ouch

240 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 12:57:50pm

re: #220 Lidane

Former South Carolina GOP Head Loves The Troops So Much He Wishes This One Vet Had ‘Come Home In A Body Bag’

“…Kincannon, whose own record of military service appears to consist of being really happy to send Americans to go die in some wars…”

241 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 12:58:07pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I guess they think this is a real live version of Homeland.

That’s a real thing. If you search Twitter for Bergdahl and Homeland you’ll find lots of people openly wondering if this guy is a real life Nick Brody.

242 Minor_L  Jun 3, 2014 12:58:15pm

I don’t know, it seems like, deep down, the right wing thinks that Bergdahl’s rescue is a good thing. That’s why they are so scared.

It would be funny if there weren’t actual victims of their actions.

243 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:58:17pm

I just feel so bad for this guy. Bad enough that you’re a captive of the Taliban for five long years. And you find out that finally you’re going home. And then to find that there’s an already eager smear machine ready to do everything to not merely attack your character but your family too. This is the kind of shit that has me disillusioned.

244 Ian G.  Jun 3, 2014 12:58:29pm

re: #169 Charles Johnson

If Obama deserves impeachment for trading a handful of Taliban prisoners for Bergdahl, what does Netanyahu deserve for trading over 1000 Palestianian prisoners for Gilad Shalit? Drawing and quartering?

Christ, these people are deranged.

245 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 12:58:36pm

re: #214 FemNaziBitch

I see her point, but white also blends in too well with the snow.

Besides, it shows all the dirt.

1) No snow here, pretty much ever.

2) In my experience, white shows dirt a lot less than, say black. Or dark blue.

I thought about silver or gray, but then I SAW the blue! And she says “Don’t buy a car the color of the road!”

246 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 12:58:57pm

re: #241 Lidane

That’s a real thing. If you search Twitter for Bergdahl and Homeland you’ll find lots of people openly wondering if this guy is a real life Nick Brody.

That was honestly just speculation on my part as I don’t tweet. But my God.

247 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 1:00:00pm

re: #244 Ian G.

If Obama deserves impeachment for trading a handful of Taliban prisoners for Bergdahl, what does Netanyahu deserve for trading over 1000 Palestianian prisoners for Gilad Shalit? Drawing and quartering?

Christ, these people are deranged.

Pat Robertson would say he deserves God’s punishment just like that sick fucker did when Sharon had a stroke.

248 Mike Lamb  Jun 3, 2014 1:00:09pm

re: #235 Lidane

You’re trying to apply logic to a bunch of RWNJ idiocy. Won’t work.

I see the problem.

249 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:00:14pm

ggt puts fingers in ears **lalalalala, fadeeda, I’m not listening***

250 Ian G.  Jun 3, 2014 1:00:24pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

ouch ouch ouch

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That’s just nuts. I think the largest hailstone I’ve ever seen is about half-dollar sized. Don’t want to know what those would do to a windshield.

251 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 3, 2014 1:00:34pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

Mad Magazine goes full metal wingnut.

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Obama traded away the Duck Dynasty cast? Sounds like a deal to me.

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 1:01:06pm

re: #250 Ian G.

That’s just nuts. I think the largest hailstone I’ve ever seen is about half-dollar sized. Don’t want to know what those would do to a windshield.

I can tell you: it’s not pretty.

253 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:01:13pm
254 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 1:01:23pm

Bowe Bergdahl’s Dad on Why He Grew That Beard | TIME

Robert Bergdahl said he began growing the beard as soon as he received news of his son’s capture. He was on his usual UPS delivery route on July 1, 2009, when management radioed him back to headquarters. Two army officers delivered the devastating news, and according to friends, he resolved in that moment to do whatever he could to facilitate his son’s release. That included scouring websites and chat rooms for rumors about his son’s captors, teaching himself Pashto and Urdu and growing a long, eye-catching beard.

A devout Presbyterian, Bergdahl was aware of the impression he made on local congregants. His former pastor told the Washington Post that Bergdahl occasionally explained to friends that he had not developed any sympathies for the Taliban, he only wanted to understand their worldview.

255 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 1:02:37pm

re: #250 Ian G.

That’s just nuts. I think the largest hailstone I’ve ever seen is about half-dollar sized. Don’t want to know what those would do to a windshield.

I once got hit by a few quarter-size hailstones.
Damned near knocked me out. And the subsequent bruises were spectacular.

256 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 1:02:41pm

re: #250 Ian G.

The sheet metal gets a whole new texture.

257 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 1:02:59pm

re: #241 Lidane

That’s a real thing. If you search Twitter for Bergdahl and Homeland you’ll find lots of people openly wondering if this guy is a real life Nick Brody.

Bah, I liked it better when it was called The Manchurian Candidate.

258 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 1:03:10pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Bowe Bergdahl’s Dad on Why He Grew That Beard | TIME

From the father of the shooting victim in Isla Vista, there seems to be no shortage of attacks on grieving fathers by right wing shitheads.

259 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:03:22pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Trying to understand the other side in any disagreement is a sin, doncha know?

260 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:04:14pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Bowe Bergdahl’s Dad on Why He Grew That Beard | TIME

It was also a good visual reminder of how long his son had been gone.

261 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:04:25pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Bowe Bergdahl’s Dad on Why He Grew That Beard | TIME

LIES! He grew his beard as part of his jihadi plot to claim the White House for Islam!

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262 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:04:55pm

re: #259 calochortus

Trying to understand the other side in any disagreement is a sin, doncha know?

The whole Sun Tzu thing —wasn’t there a part about “know your enemy”?

263 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 1:04:59pm

re: #259 calochortus

Trying to understand the other side in any disagreement is a sin, doncha know?

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

264 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:05:24pm
265 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:05:40pm

re: #259 calochortus

Trying to understand the other side in any disagreement is a sin, doncha know?

I’ve heard the argument that we don’t need to understand them, just kill them.

266 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:06:34pm

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

The whole Sun Tzu thing —wasn’t there a part about “know your enemy”?

What did some Chinese guy know about war?

267 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 1:06:43pm

re: #265 GeneJockey

I’ve heard the argument that we don’t need to understand them, just kill them.

And then take selfies pissing on their corpses.
Yay, ‘Murica!

268 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:06:46pm
269 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:07:10pm

re: #265 GeneJockey

I’ve heard the argument that we don’t need to understand them, just kill them.

What a great way to have a safer world!
/

270 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 1:07:30pm

You know everyone deals with tragedy differently. Bob Bergdahl could have become a bitter drunk after his son’s capture. He chose to grow a beard in solidarity with his son who wouldn’t be allowed a shave. Unconventional maybe but at the same time, we’re talking about a father dealing with a son whose safety and well being he had to be worried about constantly not only during his capture but before it too. For a bunch of people who claim to support “family values”, the attacks on Mr. Bergdahl show that “family values” is just a load of shit when conservatives claim to support it. A real ideology of “family values” wouldn’t attack a grieving father.

271 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:08:26pm

re:
#254

He could have said he grew the beard to look like those dudes on the Duck Murderers show.

272 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 1:08:54pm

re: #265 GeneJockey

I’ve heard the argument that we don’t need to understand them, just kill them.

Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. Or as you better know her Ann Coulter and the words I was introduced to her by.

273 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:09:35pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. Or as you better know her Ann Coulter and the words I was introduced to her by.

Wait, didn’t the RC church get some flack for that from Martin Luther?

274 HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2014 1:10:15pm

re: #273 FemNaziBitch

Wait, didn’t the RC church get some flack for that from Martin Luther?

The whole killing people without understanding their beliefs? Not sure. Wouldn’t shock me.

275 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:10:22pm

re: #204 Lidane

I really don’t understand how (never mind why) a Presbyterian, or even a secret Muslim, could “claim” the White House for Islam.
What would happen?
What if I claimed it for weavers? Could we have a conference there and all bring our looms?

276 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:12:27pm

re: #269 calochortus

What a great way to have a safer world!
/

When questioned about it, they seemed to be of the opinion that there’s a defined group of “terrorists” that won’t grow or shrink based on external events, like, say, bombing the crap out of their homes.

277 sagehen  Jun 3, 2014 1:12:36pm

re: #249 FemNaziBitch

ggt puts fingers in ears **lalalalala, fadeeda, I’m not listening***

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I vote real. (my dad’s dog was a great dane… until I was about 4 I used to ride him like a pony.)

278 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:12:45pm

re:
#220

Bergdahl’s dad is a Muslim radical himself. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

—-

Confirmed. FACT.

279 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:13:13pm

re: #275 calochortus

I really don’t understand how (never mind why) a Presbyterian, or even a secret Muslim, could “claim” the White House for Islam.
What would happen?
What if I claimed it for weavers? Could we have a conference there and all bring our looms?

Another danger, looming on the horizon…

280 aagcobb  Jun 3, 2014 1:14:08pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I actually do hear Mitt wants to run again. Apparently he doesn’t get the fact that voters just don’t like him. He’s won one election his whole career.

Be still my heart; we can’t be lucky enough to get Romney as the nominee two elections in a row. OTOH, what is the alternative for the GOP? Ted Cruz? Rand Paul? Another Bush?

281 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 1:15:00pm
282 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:15:20pm

re: #276 GeneJockey

When questioned about it, they seemed to be of the opinion that there’s a defined group of “terrorists” that won’t grow or shrink based on external events, like, say, bombing the crap out of their homes.

Kind of like the people whose homes will be underwater, or whose crops will fail as the result of global warming who won’t try to move to another country or cause trouble?
Of course, all of these folks feel they have a right to strike back at any perceived insult, much less existential issue.

283 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:15:49pm

re: #279 GeneJockey

Another danger, looming on the horizon…

And we’re a warped group.

284 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:16:08pm

re: #280 aagcobb

Be still my heart; we can’t be lucky enough to get Romney as the nominee two elections in a row. OTOH, what is the alternative for the GOP? Ted Cruz? Rand Paul? Another Bush?

Doesn’t Mitt have to throw his son and wife under the bus first for telling everyone post-2012 election about how he really didn’t want to be President?

Oh wait, I forgot about that silly short-term memory thing in US politics.

285 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:16:08pm

re:
#212

Mad Magazine still exists?

286 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 1:16:35pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

Mad Magazine goes full metal wingnut.

Whoa. When did Mad Magazine turn into Teh Blaze?????

287 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:17:02pm
288 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:17:03pm

re: #283 calochortus

And we’re a warped group.

I thought you were a weftist?
//

289 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:17:22pm

re: #283 calochortus

And we’re a warped group.

Who is the weft then?

290 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:17:27pm
291 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jun 3, 2014 1:18:15pm

re: #264 Gus

If [insert any conceivable occurrence here] the RW would have blamed Obama. Full stop.

292 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:19:22pm

re: #275 calochortus

I really don’t understand how (never mind why) a Presbyterian, or even a secret Muslim, could “claim” the White House for Islam.
What would happen?
What if I claimed it for weavers? Could we have a conference there and all bring our looms?

They might be bound by the Constitution?

:0

293 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:19:29pm

re: #289 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t treadle on me?

Trouble is, I’m not sure if some of the terminology is to esoteric for folks…

294 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:20:09pm

re: #275 calochortus

I really don’t understand how (never mind why) a Presbyterian, or even a secret Muslim, could “claim” the White House for Islam.
What would happen?
What if I claimed it for weavers? Could we have a conference there and all bring our looms?

They might take “all men were created equal” literally?

Can I put a plug in for the ERA?

295 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:20:27pm

re: #287 Lidane

BTW, Amanda Terkel has linked to LGF:

296 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:20:39pm

re: #293 calochortus

Don’t treadle on me?

Trouble is, I’m not sure if some of the terminology is to esoteric for folks…

Don’t mechanize it too far, or you’ll start attracting Luddites.

297 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:20:41pm

re: #293 calochortus

Don’t treadle on me?

Trouble is, I’m not sure if some of the terminology is to esoteric for folks…

I’ll support you, if I can have a flying shuttle! I’m tired of driving to work.
//

298 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:21:12pm

re: #294 FemNaziBitch

Of course you can. ERA, ERA!
I have a niece whose initials are ERA. I’m not sure that was a coincidence.

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:21:44pm

re: #297 GeneJockey

I’ll support you, if I can have a flying shuttle! I’m tired of driving to work.
//

Flying shuttles are *definitely* weftist devices!

300 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 1:22:12pm
301 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:22:14pm

re: #296 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t mechanize it too far, or you’ll start attracting Luddites.

But I am a Luddite. I don’t have a power loom. I don’t even use a computer interface.

302 GunstarGreen  Jun 3, 2014 1:22:49pm

re: #220 Lidane

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Seriously. Evil. Shit.

Major Republican public personas aren’t even trying to look civilized anymore. They are now acting like literal fucking cartoon villains. Motherfucking Skeletor wasn’t evil enough to proudly proclaim that he’d murder his own damn son.

It has to stop. It must end. One way or another.

303 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:22:58pm

Little gray cells are definitely spinning away today, huh?

304 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:23:30pm

re: #303 FemNaziBitch

Spinning then weaving. That’s how we do it.

305 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 1:23:35pm

re: #275 calochortus

I really don’t understand how (never mind why) a Presbyterian, or even a secret Muslim, could “claim” the White House for Islam.
What would happen?
What if I claimed it for weavers? Could we have a conference there and all bring our looms?

Maybe it’s like playing that capture the flag game.

306 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:23:56pm

re: #304 calochortus

Spinning then weaving. That’s how we do it.

They we catch the fly in the net …

307 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:24:02pm

re: #303 FemNaziBitch

Little gray cells are definitely spinning away today, huh?

Aren’t you afraid of losing the thread?

308 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:24:28pm

re: #307 GeneJockey

Aren’t you afraid of losing the thread?

No, it will be caught in the felting process.

309 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:24:36pm

re: #302 GunstarGreen

Seriously. Evil. Shit.

Major Republican public personas aren’t even trying to look civilized anymore. They are now acting like literal fucking cartoon villains. Motherfucking Skeletor wasn’t evil enough to proudly proclaim that he’d murder his own damn son.

It has to stop. It must end. One way or another.

So wait, evil mooslims kill their daughters for dishonoring the family and that’s a bad thing. This guy wants to kill sons for doing the same and that’s good?

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:24:57pm

re: #306 FemNaziBitch

They we catch the fly in the net …

I think the GOP is trying to invoke the Infield Fly rule where Obama is out irregardless.

311 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:25:39pm

The Senate got weekly briefings on Bergdahl’s whereabouts. And they worked to keep his rumored location clear of drone attacks so he wouldn’t get accidentally killed:

Sen. Risch says he sought to keep Bowe Bergdahl safe from drones

As a member of the Intelligence Committee, Risch said, he was privy to information on Bergdahl’s whereabouts. He said senators weren’t aware of his precise location but had a sense of what region he was in within a country.

“There wasn’t a week that went by that we didn’t get a briefing,” Risch said.

312 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 1:26:03pm

re: #308 FemNaziBitch

No, it will be caught in the felting process.

please! have mercery on us

313 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 1:26:46pm

The “pro-life” movement wants to execute an American POW. Charming.

314 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:26:59pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe it’s like playing that capture the flag game.

In actual fact, I suppose it’s that ‘naming and claiming’ thing where the almighty is an ATM. You just have to remember your PIN number.

315 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 1:27:18pm

re: #313 Dr. Matt

The “pro-life” movement wants to execute an American POW. Charming.

Well, he was born long ago, so they don’t care about him.

316 A Mom Anon  Jun 3, 2014 1:27:19pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I’m not going to be ashamed. Because I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF. If anything, I’ve been down here in Red State Hell trying do stand up to this shit. And even if I’m not winning, I will be god damned if I’m going to let these retrograde assholes take my love of my country away from me. Fuck them. With rusty farm implements. Ashamed? OH Hell to the NO I’m not. I’m a patriot, these assholes have no clue what that means whether they’ve claimed the word as solely theirs or not.

317 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:27:27pm

re: #309 calochortus

So wait, evil mooslims kill their daughters for dishonoring the family and that’s a bad thing. This guy wants to kill sons for doing the same and that’s good?

see my Pages Post

318 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:27:47pm

re: #312 dog philosopher

please! have mercery on us

If they had a notion they would become haberdashers.

319 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:28:14pm

re: #316 A Mom Anon

I’m not going to be ashamed. Because I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF. If anything, I’ve been down here in Red State Hell trying do stand up to this shit. And even if I’m not winning, I will be god damned if I’m going to let these retrograde assholes take my love of my country away from me. Fuck them. With rusty farm implements. Ashamed? OH Hell to the NO I’m not. I’m a patriot, these assholes have no clue what that means whether they’ve claimed the word as solely theirs or not.

Great Rant!

Hell Hath No Fury

320 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:28:45pm

re: #318 Feline Fearless Leader

If they had a notion they would become haberdashers.

Milliners use do it with feathers!

321 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 1:30:28pm

Gus’s post just went over 1000 click-throughs from Twitter, and almost 500 Facebook shares.

Some people at PJ Media aren’t going to be very happy about this.

322 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:30:41pm

re:
#313

Of course, that’s what being “prolife” is all about. //

323 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 1:31:05pm

re: #320 FemNaziBitch

Milliners use do it with feathers!

Carroll’s Hatter is quite a bit more amusing in his nonsense than these asses though.

324 TedStriker  Jun 3, 2014 1:31:47pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Gus’s post just went over 1000 click-throughs from Twitter, and almost 500 Facebook shares.

Some people at PJ Media aren’t going to be very happy about this.

They try to memory hole it yet?

325 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 1:31:48pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Gus’s post just went over 1000 click-throughs from Twitter, and almost 500 Facebook shares.

Some people at PJ Media aren’t going to be very happy about this.

The poor dears.

//

326 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:32:29pm

re: #323 Feline Fearless Leader

Carroll’s Hatter is quite a bit more amusing in his nonsense than these asses though.

Wasn’t Caroll the mother-of-all modern fantasy novels?

327 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 1:32:32pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Well, If they’re not going to be happy about something then it might as well be this.

328 goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2014 1:32:34pm

re: #79 blueraven

No wonder the daily beast is such a cesspool

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Um, my credulity doesn’t extend so far as to believe that Tina Brown has an unverified Twitter account.

329 FemNaziBitch  Jun 3, 2014 1:33:15pm

I have to go, have fun at the quilting circle later.

330 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:34:28pm

re:
#311

As a member of the Intelligence Committee, Risch said, he was privy to information on Bergdahl’s whereabouts.

[wingnut]If they knew where the traitor was why didn’t they send in drones to rescue him and kill the terrorists instead of releasing maor terrorirsts?!??!??!?! PROOF!![

331 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:34:29pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Gus’s post just went over 1000 click-throughs from Twitter, and almost 500 Facebook shares.

Some people at PJ Media aren’t going to be very happy about this.

And I’m OK with that.

332 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:35:13pm
333 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 3, 2014 1:35:24pm

I know I”m cranking up the cynicism to maximum, but the wingnut’s support for veterans and troops is a lot like support for Israel: shallow, and more about eidolons than the realities of women and men going to war.

Taken together, the far right’s dehumanization of the American soldier is clear. If he or she is willing to promote the Sarah Palin version of patriotism, honor and masculinity (or at least allow themselves to be used for that purpose), they are not human beings but rather legends and gods. And if they refuse, they lose their humanity once more, now becoming contemptible beyond all measure. Either way, they are not individuals — complex and mysterious and sacred — but rather means to an end that is, fundamentally, about their self-styled defenders’ ideological satisfaction. This, it seems to me, is an exceedingly twisted way to support our troops.

334 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:36:35pm

re: #329 FemNaziBitch

I have to go, have fun at the quilting circle later.

Ladies’ Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society

335 teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2014 1:36:37pm
336 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 1:36:43pm

re: #332 Gus

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We’ve entered a whole new dimension of chutzpah.

337 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 1:36:58pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

Um, my credulity doesn’t extend so far as to believe that Tina Brown has an unverified Twitter account.

Actually, her account is indeed unverified.
That’s her twitter account.

338 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 1:37:00pm
339 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:37:45pm

re: #332 Gus

My irony meter just exploded.

340 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 1:40:39pm

re: #332 Gus

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341 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 1:41:12pm

Janie you utter fucking moron. They’re playing “Hail To The Chief.”

Most of Janie’s Tweets are on a spambot, since she posts the same shit over and over.

342 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:41:34pm

So, even if Bergdahl became disallusioned and walked away from his base, so what? We’re supposed to punish him for this one mistake his entire life by leaving him as a POW? For five effin years? Yeah that sounds totally principled and patriotic of us.

343 Lancelot Link  Jun 3, 2014 1:41:54pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

Mad Magazine goes full metal wingnut.

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Not even gone a month and already Al Feldstein is spinning in his grave.

344 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:41:57pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

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345 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 1:42:48pm

What could possibly go wrong?

346 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 1:43:27pm

re: #343 Lancelot Link

Not even gone a month and already Al Feldstein is spinning in his grave.

It’s not even funny. At all. Pure wingnut clickbait.

347 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 1:43:49pm

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

Right. Because invading Mexico would be easy.

I’m sure we’ll be greeted as liberators.

348 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2014 1:45:19pm

re: #342 Bulworth

So, even if Bergdahl became disallusioned and walked away from his base, so what? We’re supposed to punish him for this one mistake his entire life by leaving him as a POW? For five effin years? Yeah that sounds totally principled and patriotic of us.

You know who else was disillusioned while in uniform?
Chelsea Manning.

349 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 1:45:32pm

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

What could possibly go wrong?

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LOLOL

The clowns have been watching Red Dawn or The Expendables waaaayy too much.

Reminds me of a stanza from the Dead Kennedys:

Be a Wolverine
You’ll rule the hills
Just get some guns and Cheerios
Any kid can conquer Libya
Just steal a fighter plane!

350 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 1:47:15pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

Gus’s post just went over 1000 click-throughs from Twitter, and almost 500 Facebook shares.

Some people at PJ Media aren’t going to be very happy about this.

One respondent to Weigel’s tweet lamented the lack of disclosure that you were a founder. Like it’s a secret.

351 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:47:15pm
352 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 1:47:27pm

re: #342 Bulworth

If I had to guess, and it would be irresponsible not to speculate, wouldn’t it? I’d say he either thought he had a “great idea” to go out and talk to/help the locals by himself, to show how sincere we all were about being good guys, or maybe he just got tired of it all and wandered off.
In either case, he was what, 19 or 20, bright, well, but unconventionally, educated, inexperienced (because he was young,) and a bit isolated from his peers. He made a really bad decision and has paid for it big time.
No young person has ever shown this sort of lack of judgement before, have they?

353 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:47:53pm

COOPER: Would you oppose the idea of some form of negotiations or prisoner exchange? I know back in 2012 you called the idea of even negotiating with the Taliban bizarre, highly questionable.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Well, at that time the proposal was that they would release — Taliban, some of them really hard-core, particularly five really hard-core Taliban leaders, as a confidence- building measure. Now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our American fighting man.

I would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details

354 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 1:48:04pm

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

What could possibly go wrong?

My guess: They would end up either dead, injured, or sharing a prison cell with Tahmooressi.

355 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:48:28pm

COOPER: So if there was some — the possibility of some sort of exchange, that’s something you would support?

MCCAIN: I would support. Obviously I’d have to know the details, but I would support ways of bringing him home and if exchange was one of them I think that would be something I think we should seriously consider.

356 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 3, 2014 1:48:46pm

re: #353 Gus

Oh but ‘details’.

357 leftynyc  Jun 3, 2014 1:48:49pm

For more ammo about how the cons just love the troops, here’s a walk down memory lane:

huffingtonpost.com

snip
Within hours of Pat Tillman’s death, the Army went into information-lockdown mode, cutting off phone and Internet connections at a base in Afghanistan, posting guards on a wounded platoon mate, and ordering a sergeant to burn Tillman’s uniform.

snip
He wasn’t so much a patriot as he was apparently an antiwar leftist who enjoyed chomping on Noam Chomsky.
… Not the first, won’t be the last leftist in the ranks. Fact is so is his brother, Kevin. Shame. We used to sniff them out in basic training and help them “out”.

358 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 1:49:04pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

It’s in my Twitter profile.

359 Mattand  Jun 3, 2014 1:50:01pm

re: #223 lawhawk

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I’ll go and vote, but in nearly every slot, the candidates are running unopposed. That’s absolutely pathetic, and it shows just how the parties at the local level are failing their constituents. You get unopposed races in the primaries, and often the parties will cede the races to the other party or put up a token opponent. So, whoever wins the primary wins the general.

And we get more of the same. [deleted]

As an atheist, I couldn’t run for office if I wanted to. Not officially, of course, but there’s still that “No God, not good” stigma that follows you around. Even in a relatively socially liberal state like NJ.

Besides, I don’t need death threats in addition to the other shit I’m dealing with.

360 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 1:50:10pm

re: #351 Gus

WOW!

COOPER: Would you oppose the idea of some form of negotiations or prisoner exchange? I know back in 2012 you called the idea of even negotiating with the Taliban bizarre, highly questionable.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Well, at that time the proposal was that they would release — Taliban, some of them really hard-core, particularly five really hard-core Taliban leaders, as a confidence- building measure. Now this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our American fighting man.

I would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of the details.

361 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:50:14pm
362 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 1:50:59pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

One respondent to Weigel’s tweet lamented the lack of disclosure that you were a founder. Like it’s a secret.

I don’t see that reply when I look at the tweet - I probably blocked and muted whoever it was.

363 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 1:53:11pm

NRO: A Tale of Two GIs: Obama Jumps for Bergdahl, Leaves Tahmooressi to Rot

“Jumps”? Bergdahl was a POW for five years. Jebus. Idiots.

364 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 1:53:13pm

re: #354 Dr. Matt

My guess: They would end up either dead, injured, or sharing a prison cell with Tahmooressi.

I’ll take Door #3.

365 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 1:53:31pm

re: #362 Charles Johnson

I don’t see that reply when I look at the tweet - I probably blocked and muted whoever it was.

It’s that strange Ali A. Akbar guy.

366 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 1:53:37pm

re: #356 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Obdi, I posted this the other day hoping you’d see it, but you weren’t around. I think it’ll be of interest to you as it echoes much of what I’ve heard you say here.

367 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 1:54:21pm

Now the number is up to 14? I thought it was 6.

Funny how we never heard about this when it “happened.”

368 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 1:56:42pm

For some reason, I have more sympathy for a guy held prisoner by the Taliban for 5 years than a jackass driving around with a vehicle full of guns who gets arrested by a legal government.

369 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:56:54pm

re:
#363

WTFITS?

370 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 1:59:01pm

re:
#367

WTFITS?

371 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 1:59:13pm

re: #363 Dr. Matt

You know it’s strange days when NRO writes approvingly of someone with a name like Tahmooressi.

372 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 1:59:38pm

re: #365 Gus

It’s that strange Ali A. Akbar guy.

Ugh, yeah, the Breitbart guy. Yuck.

He claIms “PJ Media was a deal Charles Johnson went bad on.”

WTF is that supposed to mean?

373 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 1:59:59pm

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Now the number is up to 14? I thought it was 6.

Funny how we never heard about this when it “happened.”

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That’s alright, got another on the other board I frequent who says he’s been speaking with Bergdahl’s unit and they’re blaming him for every death in that region for the six months after his disappearance.

374 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:00:01pm

re: #368 Kragar

For some reason, I have more sympathy for a guy held prisoner by the Taliban for 5 years than a jackass driving around with a vehicle full of guns who gets arrested by a legal government.

The party of personal responsibility believes, for now, that Tahmooressi should not be held accountable for the laws he broke. But, as we all know, they will change their mind in a heartbeat about him…..say, word comes out that Tahmooressi was going AWOL to live on a Mexican beach.

375 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 2:00:34pm

re:
#367

I don’t remember seeing those death numbers in the PJ Media petition they were directing patriotic true conservative Americans to sign. //

376 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:01:03pm

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Now the number is up to 14? I thought it was 6.

Funny how we never heard about this when it “happened.”

latimes.com

Calling Bergdahl a deserter, the soldiers said he should be held accountable for possible violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. They contended that several U.S. service members died in direct or indirect connection with the massive 90-day search for the missing sergeant.

The Pentagon has not confirmed that any deaths were related to the search for Bergdahl.

377 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:01:29pm

Stand by for new incoming bullshit.

378 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:01:56pm

U.S. Marine held in Mexican prison on weapons charge

(CNN) — For more than a month, a U.S. Marine and Afghanistan war veteran has been held in a Tijuana, Mexico, prison, fighting for his release after being charged with a crime he says he did not commit.

Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi said he accidentally crossed into Mexico around 10 p.m. on March 31 with three personal firearms while on his way to meet friends in San Ysidro, California.

Tahmooressi, 25, had recently moved to the area to get treatment for his post-traumatic stress disorder and was “essentially living out of his truck,” his mother, Jill, told CNN.

He is currently being held in the La Mesa penitentiary in Tijuana on a weapons charge and awaits a May 28 court date, according to the Mexican attorney general’s office.

“I accidentally drove into Mexico with 3 guns … a rifle (AR-15), a .45 cal pistol and a 12 gauge pump shotgun with no intensions (sic) on being in Mexico or being involved in any criminal activities,” Tahmooressi wrote in a statement of innocence to U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter. “I have rights to all 3 weapons. They are under my name … Please help me.”

379 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:02:26pm

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Now the number is up to 14? I thought it was 6.

Funny how we never heard about this when it “happened.”

I have seen right-wing propaganda “reports” of 6, 8, and 14.

380 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 2:03:08pm

It gets worse…apparently he knows how to READ!

381 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 2:03:59pm

re: #371 jaunte

You know it’s strange days when NRO writes approvingly of someone with a name like Tahmooressi.

Indeed. Ever since I saw his last name I’ve been wondering what its origins are. It sounds very Middle Eastern.

382 Mike Lamb  Jun 3, 2014 2:04:37pm

re: #360 Dr. Matt

WOW!

Details such as whether we still have a Dem POTUS when such exchange actually transpired.

383 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:04:58pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

“I have rights to all 3 weapons.”

Not in Mexico.

I see one Marine who failed his Land Nav course.

384 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:05:06pm
385 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:05:59pm
386 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 2:06:02pm

re: #372 CuriousLurker

Ugh, yeah, the Breitbart guy. Yuck.

He claIms “PJ Media was a deal Charles Johnson went bad on.”

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Yeah, I had to check…

Complete bullshit as usual. I didn’t “go bad” on anything - we parted ways without rancor. PJ Media kept my photo and bio on their site for a long time. Probably not now, though.

387 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:06:04pm

re: #383 Kragar

“I have rights to all 3 weapons.”

Not in Mexico.

I see one Marine who failed his Land Nav course.

Indeed.

388 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 3, 2014 2:06:29pm

re: #366 CuriousLurker

It’s sad this common-sense stuff has to be said, much less papered:

The central determinants of how Muslim jurists have interpreted the Qur’anic verses on fighting are tradition and political necessity, both of which had to be reconciled with the authoritative texts in order to maintain consistency.The need to protect consistency between theory and practice was a central concern of Muslim jurists, but it did not necessarily represent an overwhelming challenge. The ambiguity of some Qur’anic passages, along with the common practice of abrogation, allowed for a certain amount of selective interpretation. Early Muslim communities, like the majority of societies, faced conflict with neighboring societies, and dealt with war as a practical reality of expansion and survival. Although the morality of war within Islamic law is a fundamentally theological issue, it is equally a political and social issue, having been shaped by the historical needs of Islamic communities interacting with other societies

.

Gee, sounds like every other religion ever.

To me, one of the reasons this is uncomfortable and difficult for people to accept is that it shows the politicization of religion from the very start, that, even if you happened to believe in an absolutely divine origin of the text (which would require ignoring reality) you can’t ignore that every major religion has found completely convenient ways to accept and even promote war. Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam—massive wars, generation-spanning conquests and campaigns have been launched by not just pious but fervent kingdoms of all these religions.

The uncomfortable take away is that the actual text of the religion matters much less than the use to which it is put.

389 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:07:09pm
390 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:09:03pm

re: #350 wrenchwench

One respondent to Weigel’s tweet lamented the lack of disclosure that you were a founder. Like it’s a secret.

What does that have to do with the fact that Gus did some research on their past? Do we ignore reality because of past acquaintances? It’s not like they are even trying anymore.

391 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:09:22pm

Fox News Contributor Behind PR Campaign For Soldiers Critical Of Bowe Bergdahl

Fox News contributor Richard Grenell and his public relations firm have been coordinating interviews for soldiers criticizing the actions of recently-released Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl.

Those critics have said that Bergdahl, who had been imprisoned by the Taliban since 2009, risked the lives of soldiers who tried to find him after he reportedly walked off his Afghanistan base.

Several media outlets have reported on these soldiers and their concerns, including Fox News, The New York Times, Time, The Los Angeles Times, The Daily Mail, and The Daily Beast. According to a report in Buzzfeed, Fox News contributor Richard Grenell and his firm Capitol Media have “played a key role in publicizing” these critics.

392 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:09:29pm

re: #389 Lidane

He spent his free time studying Dari and Pashto and took great interest in the lives of local Afghans. Fellow soldiers say that when the platoon dined with the local Afghan National Police forces, Bergdahl lingered to mix with the Afghans. In free time on Forward Operating Base Sharana, when others passed time playing games, chatting with friends or clicking around their computers, Bergdahl chose to engage the locals. “He’d spend hours drinking tea with them, just hanging out,” says one of Bergdahl’s former platoon mates. “He got to know the locals well and had many friends.”

So he got to know the local authorities, their languages and cultures, and socializing with the people they were serving with. And this is bad how, exactly?

393 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 2:09:39pm

When I was at the gym at lunch, CNN was hyping the Taliban angle like nobody’s business. I think Obama’s response (We bring our soldiers home. Full stop.) and basic radio silence beyond that is the right response. Let those fuckers hype themselves into a froth.

394 bluebonnetbunny  Jun 3, 2014 2:09:49pm

re: #243 HappyWarrior

If he had just wandered off the base and killed the first few Afghans he saw, he would be a hero to the Right Wing crazies.
I can’t imagine what his family and friends feel when they hear all the hate and rage directed at him. I’m glad he’s free and will be on his way home soon.

395 Bulworth  Jun 3, 2014 2:10:20pm

I realize that for the wingnuts there may be no true Peak Wingnut, that, for them, the derp can just keep going, climbing higher and still higher, but there does come a point when those of us non-wingnuts have ingested as much derp as we can and we can’t stanze no moar.

396 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:10:32pm
397 jhncsy  Jun 3, 2014 2:11:05pm

I haven’t been paying much attention to this story until lately. Can someone tell me the reason why the right wing is pissed off about this (well, besides the obvious reason)?

398 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:12:49pm

re: #397 jhncsy

I haven’t been paying much attention to this story until lately. Can someone tell me the reason why the right wing is pissed off about this (well, besides the obvious reason)?

Because they didn’t get a chance to campaign about how they worked hard to save an American POW over Obama’s objections. Or something.

Really, that’s all it comes down to. Up until the point that Bergdahl was released, the GOP were perfectly happy to “support” him and call for his release no matter how it happened.

399 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 2:12:55pm
400 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:13:15pm

Gee, I can’t imagine why a soldier being heckled and bullied by his squadmates for trying to learn about where they’re serving might ever get the idea to desert.
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401 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:14:12pm
402 Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2014 2:15:00pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

U.S. Marine held in Mexican prison on weapons charge

He fired his attorney at the recent hearing.

I’m not following the story to find out why.

403 blueraven  Jun 3, 2014 2:15:11pm

re: #328 goddamnedfrank

Um, my credulity doesn’t extend so far as to believe that Tina Brown has an unverified Twitter account.

Actually, I thought the same but…
couldn’t find another one for her and it seems legit.

404 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:15:51pm

For the last 4 decades we heard countless bullshit stories about ‘hippies spitting on returning vets’; RWNJs turned their myth into a reality.

405 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:16:10pm

re: #400 Kragar

Gee, I can’t imagine why a soldier being heckled and bullied by his squadmates for trying to learn about where they’re serving might ever get the idea to desert.
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I mean, why would a guy whose “buddies” were put off about how he wouldn’t drink beer and eat BBQ with them ever wish to leave?

406 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:16:40pm

Books
Ballett
Bicycles
Bowe
Bergdahl
Benghazi

407 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 2:16:53pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

U.S. Marine held in Mexican prison on weapons charge

I was born & raised in South Central Texas. I’ve been across the Texas-Mexico border dozens of times. The idea that someone can “accidentally” drive into Mexico stirkes me as patently absurd. I don’t know about where he crossed, but in Texas unless you’re in some really out of the way place there’s no mistaking when you’re approaching the freaking border.

There are no unmanned US-Mexico border crossings you can drive through AFAIK, so his claim sounds like pure bullshit to me.

408 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:18:10pm

re: #407 CuriousLurker

I was born & raised in South Central Texas. I’ve been across the Texas-Mexico border dozens of times. The idea that someone can “accidentally” drive into Mexico stirkes me as patently absurd. I don’t know about where he crossed, but in Texas unless you’re in some really out of the way place there’s no mistaking when you’re approaching the freaking border.

There are no unmanned US-Mexico border crossings you can drive through AFAIK, so his claim sounds like pure bullshit to me.

That’s what I was figuring.

409 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:18:16pm

re: #407 CuriousLurker

I was born & raised in South Central Texas. I’ve been across the Texas-Mexico border dozens of times. The idea that someone can “accidentally” drive into Mexico stirkes me as patently absurd. I don’t know about where he crossed, but in Texas unless you’re in some really out of the way place there’s no mistaking when you’re approaching the freaking border.

There are no unmanned US-Mexico border crossings you can drive through AFAIK, so his claim sounds like pure bullshit to me.

I remember driving into Tijuana. Was like a war zone even before getting to the entry.

410 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:18:17pm

re: #406 Gus

Books
Ballett
Bicycles
Bowe
Bergdahl
Benghazi

Barack
Bo
Birth Certificates

411 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 2:18:44pm

re: #402 Stanley Sea

Hearing Delayed. New Evidence Shows Marine Checked Into Downtown Tijuana Hotel Nelson Before Re-Crossing Back into Mexico in Truck with Weapons Stash
sandiegored.com

412 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:18:49pm

re: #410 Dr. Matt

Barack
Bo
Birth Certificates

TaliBan

413 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:19:08pm

Braincells

414 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:20:04pm

Boobs.

/Had to be said.

415 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 2:20:47pm

READ WARNING SIGN FOR IMPORTANT INFO

google.com

416 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:22:18pm

re: #414 Varek Raith

Boobs.

/Had to be said.

Blow jobs.

417 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:22:41pm

You know, I might put more weight into the words of the guys from Bergdahl’s unit if I didn’t vividly remember when Pat Tillman’s “buddies” were lying to investigators about a phantom ambush that saw Pat get drilled in the head with three 5.56mm rounds at close range. And how they felt so saddened by his death that, before the Army could send anybody to look into it, they’d proceeded to burn his uniform, his armor, and his journal.

418 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 2:22:57pm

re: #414 Varek Raith

Boobs.

/Had to be said.

Beer! Beer! Beer! cried the private.
Brave men are we
There’s none so fair as they can compare
to the fighting infantry.

419 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:24:13pm

re: #411 jaunte

Tahmooressi parked his weapons and ammo-laden black F-150 pickup truck with a stash eerily-similar to that which Huberty had used on his McDonalds victims three decades earlier: an AR-15 rifle, a .45 caliber pistol, a 12-guage pump shotgun and more than 400 rounds of ammo.

Tahmooressi then walked across the border into Mexico and checked into Room 310 of downtown Tijuana’s historic, old Hotel Nelson on the corner of First and Revolution - in spite of his claim that he had never visited Tijuana before.

At some point later that day Tahmooressi re-entered the United States on foot. He then got into his gun-laden truck and drove back into Mexico where he was detained, arrested and became a political football on the larger playing field of Mexican/U.S. relations within the context of the war on drugs and the flow of weapons from the U.S. into Mexico. His incarceration, and its attendant publicity, has re-opened a cultural divide of mutual mistrust and suspicion between the U.S. and Mexico that has been festering for decades.

File this under: Things you won’t hear on Fox.

420 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:25:18pm

So, anyone want to tell me how you accidentally drive thru this and not notice?

google.com

421 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:25:23pm

re: #411 jaunte

Weapons STASH? Now wait a second.

422 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:25:35pm

re: #414 Varek Raith

Boobs.

/Had to be said.

Bikinis
Babes
Brisket
BBQ
Booze
Beach

423 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:25:56pm

re: #420 Kragar

So, anyone want to tell me how you accidentally drive thru this and not notice?

google.com

What is that? We ran into a Marine road block.

424 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 2:25:57pm

The allegation against Bergdahl now is that he cooperated with the Taliban. The evidence is one soldier, who says their targeting improved after Bergdahl was taken prisoner.

425 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:27:03pm

re: #423 Gus

What is that? We ran into a Marine road block.

Google “San Diego border crossings” and switch to images

426 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:27:29pm
427 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:27:31pm

re: #424 Charles Johnson

The allegation against Bergdahl now is that he cooperated with the Taliban. The evidence is one soldier, who says their targeting improved after Bergdahl was taken prisoner.

Well, that’s definitive then.
///

428 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 2:27:56pm

re: #421 Gus

Weapons STASH? Now wait a second.

Weapon buddies?

429 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:28:20pm

re: #424 Charles Johnson

The allegation against Bergdahl now is that he cooperated with the Taliban. The evidence is one soldier, who says their targeting improved after Bergdahl was taken prisoner.

All the allegations so far depend upon the word of the guys in his unit, who have been pretty candid about how little they thought of him. And they’ve had five years to get their stories straight and agree on a general narrative.

430 EdDantes  Jun 3, 2014 2:28:41pm

re: #184 piratedan

what has to be infuriating for the GOP is that the Obama Presidency has probably been the most corruption and scandal free set of terms for the last 100 years, if not all of American history. Unsure if that will be the case 20 years from now, but in this environment of hyper investigative journalism and knee-jerk partisan reactions, there’s been pretty much bupkis to hang around the head of this President. I think that it is exponentially causing the GOP to lose its ever lovin’ mind and as such, anything, ANYTHING that gets mandated by the WH is seen as apocalyptic.

Corruption and scandal free?
IRS, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, VA, Solyndra et al., James Rosen,…

431 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:30:39pm

re: #430 EdDantes

Corruption and scandal free?
IRS, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, VA, Solyndra et al., James Rosen,…

HAHAHAHAHAHA

*That’s the only reasonable response to such idiocy*

432 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:32:16pm

re: #429 Targetpractice

All the allegations so far depend upon the word of the guys in his unit, who have been pretty candid about how little they thought of him. And they’ve had five years to get their stories straight and agree on a general narrative.

5 years of nursing grudges toward “that weird guy who didn’t hang out with us and wandered off one night”. 5 years of ‘Hey remember when Bergdahl said this, or did that?’ Throw in likely remuneration, exposure, getting in front of cameras - but only if you don’t say, “He was different, but I liked him. I worried about him, and I’m glad he’s coming home.”

433 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 3, 2014 2:32:21pm

re: #430 EdDantes

Elaborate on how Benghazi is a scandal. Do you mean the GOP cutting funding for embassy security?

434 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 2:32:21pm

re: #286 Dr. Matt

Whoa. When did Mad Magazine turn into Teh Blaze?????

DC comics is a Warner company.

435 gwangung  Jun 3, 2014 2:32:55pm

re: #430 EdDantes

Corruption and scandal free?
IRS, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, VA, Solyndra et al., James Rosen,…

Mention the IRS and you pretty much brand yourself pig iron ignorant.

Say “Fast and Furious”, and you show you have a room temperature IQ.

IDIOT.

436 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:33:05pm

re: #430 EdDantes

Corruption and scandal free?
IRS, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, VA, Solyndra et al., James Rosen,…

Oh, Jesus, Ed.

437 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 2:34:27pm

HURR HURR WHY DON’T WE DO TEH SAME TO ALL TEH MEXICENS TAHT SNEAK ACROSS ARE BORDER LIKE TEH MEXICENS DID TOO ARE BRAVE MARINE!!!!!!!

438 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:34:57pm

re: #407 CuriousLurker

I was born & raised in South Central Texas. I’ve been across the Texas-Mexico border dozens of times. The idea that someone can “accidentally” drive into Mexico stirkes me as patently absurd. I don’t know about where he crossed, but in Texas unless you’re in some really out of the way place there’s no mistaking when you’re approaching the freaking border.

There are no unmanned US-Mexico border crossings you can drive through AFAIK, so his claim sounds like pure bullshit to me.

EXACTLY. I was born in the Rio Grande Valley and have family all along the border, from the Valley to Laredo. I know that part of the state well.

There is no surprise when you’re coming up on a border crossing. Ever. If the traffic jams and all the semi trucks don’t tip you off, all the signs telling you that you’re about to cross the border will tell you. Oh, and the armed Border Patrol guards asking where you’re going and why.

BTW, this is the border crossing into Tijuana:

google.com

There’s no goddamn way you accidentally walk into Mexico. At all.

439 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:36:05pm

re: #432 GeneJockey

5 years of nursing grudges toward “that weird guy who didn’t hang out with us and wandered off one night”. 5 years of ‘Hey remember when Bergdahl said this, or did that?’ Throw in likely remuneration, exposure, getting in front of cameras - but only if you don’t say, “He was different, but I liked him. I worried about him, and I’m glad he’s coming home.”

5 years to look back at other guys killed in the same theater and come to the conclusion that “All this happened after that guy who was real cozy with the locals disappeared…” Want to believe so badly that the guys they actually liked, ones killed in battle, could only have died because the enemy was getting help.

440 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:36:53pm

Black president.

441 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:37:29pm

re: #435 gwangung

Mention the IRS and you pretty much brand yourself pig iron ignorant.

Say “Fast and Furious”, and you show you have a room temperature IQ.

IDIOT.

He’s probably looking to be featured on Diary of an Obsessive Stalker.

442 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:37:30pm

re: #422 Dr. Matt

Bikinis
Babes
Brisket
BBQ
Booze
Beach

I like where this is going. I’ll take BBW Brisket and Booze, with Babes in Bikinis. You can hold the Beach though - I don’t want to put the SAND in sandwich.

443 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 2:38:19pm

re: #424 Charles Johnson

The allegation against Bergdahl now is that he cooperated with the Taliban. The evidence is one soldier, who says their targeting improved after Bergdahl was taken prisoner.

By the end of the week he’ll probably be a willing convert/Jihadi and POTUS will have rescued him because he himself is secretly Muslim and therefore obviously a Taliban/MB/AQ sympathizer.*

———————————————

*As ALL Muslims are known to be in their evil, treasonous heart of hearts. //

444 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:38:28pm
445 makeitstop  Jun 3, 2014 2:38:44pm

(makeitstop raises hand…)

I have a question.

If the members of Bergdahl’s unit were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements, why are so many of them blabbing to the media?

446 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:38:46pm

re: #440 Gus

Black president.

BEESBEESBEES

447 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:39:31pm

re: #443 CuriousLurker

By the end of the week he’ll probably be a willing convert/Jihadi and POTUS will have rescued him because he himself is secretly Muslim and therefore obviously a Taliban/MB/AQ sympathizer.*

———————————————

*As ALL Muslims are known to be in their evil, treasonous heart of hearts. //

I think that was last night, actually. No, really.

448 Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2014 2:40:04pm

BEES

449 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:40:31pm

re: #445 makeitstop

(makeitstop raises hand…)

I have a question.

If the members of Bergdahl’s unit were forced to sign non-disclosure agreements, why are so many of them blabbing to the media?

I read that they were ‘willing to set that aside’.

Worth the paper they were written on….

450 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 2:40:48pm

re: #443 CuriousLurker

By the end of the week he’ll probably be a willing convert/Jihadi and POTUS will have rescued him because he himself is secretly Muslim and therefore obviously a Taliban/MB/AQ sympathizer.*

———————————————

*As ALL Muslims are known to be in their evil, treasonous heart of hearts. //

You are way late with that. Ever lurk Freep?

451 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:41:05pm

re: #443 CuriousLurker

By the end of the week he’ll probably be a willing convert/Jihadi and POTUS will have rescued him because he himself is secretly Muslim and therefore obviously a Taliban/MB/AQ sympathizer.*

———————————————

*As ALL Muslims are known to be in their evil, treasonous heart of hearts. //

Thank goodness this whole Bergdahl thing doesn’t come with the usual Islamophobia!

//

452 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:41:39pm

Bullshit Mountain

453 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:41:45pm

Not a big country music fan, but Brad Paisley continues to be awesome:

454 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:42:11pm

re: #449 wrenchwench

I read that they were ‘willing to set that aside’.

Worth the paper they were written on….

That’s what my Scientist friend who went to Law School to beome a patent attorney said when she was taking Contracts. We laymen tend to think of contracts as binding, and having the force of the legal system behind them, but really, she said, they’re worth what you’re willing to sue for.

455 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:42:28pm
456 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 2:42:32pm

re: #453 Lidane

Not a big country music fan, but Brad Paisley continues to be awesome:

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Burro

457 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:42:42pm

re: #450 Decatur Deb

You are way late with that. Ever lurk Freep?

Going to Freep requires hazmat suits, hip waders , and a decon chamber.

458 makeitstop  Jun 3, 2014 2:43:39pm

re: #456 Gus

Burro

Brad

459 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:43:42pm

re: #454 GeneJockey

That’s what my Scientist friend who went to Law School to beome a patent attorney said when she was taking Contracts. We laymen tend to think of contracts as binding, and having the force of the legal system behind them, but really, she said, they’re worth what you’re willing to sue for.

Lawyers guns and money. Those are for contract enforcement.

460 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:43:42pm

re: #448 Charles Johnson

BEES

Image: oprahbees.gif

461 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 2:44:22pm

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Now the number is up to 14? I thought it was 6.

Funny how we never heard about this when it “happened.”

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Thousands were killed and not a peep until….

462 Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2014 2:44:31pm

re: #407 CuriousLurker

I was born & raised in South Central Texas. I’ve been across the Texas-Mexico border dozens of times. The idea that someone can “accidentally” drive into Mexico stirkes me as patently absurd. I don’t know about where he crossed, but in Texas unless you’re in some really out of the way place there’s no mistaking when you’re approaching the freaking border.

There are no unmanned US-Mexico border crossings you can drive through AFAIK, so his claim sounds like pure bullshit to me.

I live in San Diego and if you do something dumb like miss the off ramp for Camino de la Plaza in San Ysidro, there is a place to make a U-Turn right before the border. The only time I almost “accidentally” crossed the border was in pea-soup thick fog, and even then I figured it out. This “accidentally” thing has never set well with me.

463 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 2:44:51pm

re: #450 Decatur Deb

You are way late with that. Ever lurk Freep?

I used to be a regular FReeper. Then in 2008 I had to choose whether to stay at FReep or stay here.

Never looked back.

Well once in a while I will follow a link if it’s posted here, but that place has really turned into a running sewer. I remember when there used to be moderators who removed the most egregious posts.

464 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:45:12pm

re: #459 wrenchwench

Lawyers guns and money. Those are for contract enforcement.

Youtube Video

465 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 2:45:21pm

re: #457 Lidane

Going to Freep requires hazmat suits, hip waders , and a decon chamber.

They are the sanest RW site I regularly cache-lurk. Did you know we have non-Constitutionalist militias that consider the Founding Fathers the source of America’s decline?

466 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 2:45:29pm

Beards

467 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:45:50pm

re: #460 Varek Raith

Image: oprahbees.gif

Image: tumblr_mhz98iMji71rou9fto1_400.gif

468 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:45:54pm

Bush

469 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:46:05pm

re: #465 Decatur Deb

They are the sanest RW site I regularly cache-lurk. Did you know we have non-Constitutionalist militias that consider the Founding Fathers the source of America’s decline?

Wait - what?

471 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 2:47:33pm

re: #470 Pie-onist Overlord

Mexico can’t have their own laws!!! They’re foreigners!!!

472 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:47:55pm

re: #465 Decatur Deb

Did you know we have non-Constitutionalist militias that consider the Founding Fathers the source of America’s decline?

Did that decline start before or after that genocidal asshole tyrant Lincoln terrorized the Confederacy?

///////

473 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:48:21pm

re: #470 Pie-onist Overlord

WTF

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Clearly, Bergdahl would be more sympathetic if the Taliban had been holding him on a weapons charge of which he was clearly guilty, rather than being taken and held as a Prisoner of War.

474 EdDantes  Jun 3, 2014 2:48:22pm

re: #436 GeneJockey

Oh, Jesus, Ed.

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

475 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:48:46pm

Bismillah

476 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:04pm

re: #475 wrenchwench

Bismillah

WE WILL NOT LET YOU GO

477 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:22pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

What’s the appropriate response to someone who believes Sharyl Attkisson?

478 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:23pm

re: #455 wrenchwench

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From the sounds of it, the military hasn’t really considered desertion during the GWOT worth prosecuting. Something on the order of 8,000 troops deserted between the start of the Second Iraq War and 2005, and the most they got was a slap on the wrist.

479 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:37pm

The crux of the Biscuit

480 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:43pm

re: #470 Pie-onist Overlord

WTF

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Why the fuck did he need to drive around with a truck load of guns in San Diego? Afraid a horde of banditos was going to way lay him?

481 Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:45pm

re: #476 Varek Raith

WE WILL NOT LET YOU GO

Let me go!

482 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 2:49:58pm

re: #469 GeneJockey

Wait - what?

Yup. There is a segment of the 3% movement that considers the Constitution a collectivist sell-out that inevitably led to things like the Civil Rights Act. One of the two ‘major’ threepers had to modify his Oath-keeperish membership oath to accommodate them. There is some serious deep shit out there.

483 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:50:12pm

re: #478 Targetpractice

From the sounds of it, the military hasn’t really considered desertion during the GWOT worth prosecuting. Something on the order of 8,000 troops deserted between the start of the Second Iraq War and 2005, and the most they got was a slap on the wrist.

I had no idea.

Clearly I am not alone there.

484 makeitstop  Jun 3, 2014 2:50:22pm

re: #477 wrenchwench

What’s the appropriate response to someone who believes Sharyl Attkisson?

Pointing and laughing?

485 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:50:24pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

Says the idiot that posts a gibberish, yet comical, rant about: Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, VA, waaaah, waaaaah, waaaah

486 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:50:49pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

No, we’re hopeful. But you keep disappointing us, hence the disappointed, disgusted dismissal.

All of what you’ve called ‘scandals’ have been investigated repeatedly and there’s no there there. No arrests, no coverups, no grand conspiracy.

487 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:50:51pm

re: #475 wrenchwench

Bismillah

Youtube Video

488 klys  Jun 3, 2014 2:51:07pm

re: #485 Dr. Matt

Says the idiot that posts a gibberish, yet comical, rant about: Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, VA, waaaah, waaaaah, waaaah

He can’t help himself. Charles is just so mean and won’t give him his martyr cookies.

489 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:51:09pm

re: #480 Kragar

Why the fuck did he need to drive around with a truck load of guns in San Diego? Afraid a horde of banditos was going to way lay him?

I read that all three guns were within reach as he was driving. He’s lucky to be alive.

490 gwangung  Jun 3, 2014 2:51:13pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

You really crave that attention, don’t you?

I really wish you could come up with some knowledgeable and intelligent critiques. Doing dumb and ignorant posts is a cheap way to get that attention.

491 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:51:16pm

re: #484 makeitstop

Pointing and laughing?

Works for me.

492 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:51:38pm

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me go!

He spilled blood!

493 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:51:59pm
494 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 2:52:17pm

re: #488 klys

He can’t help himself. Charles is just so mean and won’t give him his martyr cookies.

That’s right. He’s in the middle of a flounce. I had forgotten.

495 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 2:52:29pm

re: #484 makeitstop

Pointing and laughing?

496 Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2014 2:52:30pm

re: #489 wrenchwench

I read that all three guns were within reach as he was driving. He’s lucky to be alive.

So not only did he run afoul of Mexican law, he was blatantly violating California law as well.

497 Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2014 2:52:51pm

re: #483 wrenchwench

I had no idea.

Clearly I am not alone there.

We’ve had thousands of soldiers who deserted or refused to deploy. But Bergdahl is the only one who deserted and ended up in enemy hands. Odd that…

498 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:53:02pm

re: #489 wrenchwench

I read that all three guns were within reach as he was driving. He’s lucky to be alive.

Shit, that’s not even legal in the state he thought he was in.

499 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 2:53:31pm

re: #478 Targetpractice

From the sounds of it, the military hasn’t really considered desertion during the GWOT worth prosecuting. Something on the order of 8,000 troops deserted between the start of the Second Iraq War and 2005, and the most they got was a slap on the wrist.

Don’t have a feel for how wrist-slappy, but we had a 2ID soldier cross the Korean DMZ in the 80’s. (Poor taste in girlfriends). It took the rest of a lawyer buddy’s tour to start the JAG paperwork.

500 blueraven  Jun 3, 2014 2:54:06pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

then fuck right off then. We don’t need your approval, your understanding nor your blessing.

501 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:54:24pm

re: #494 wrenchwench

That’s right. He’s in the middle of a flounce. I had forgotten.

“You despise me, don’t you, Rick LGF?”

“I probably would, if I gave you any thought.”

502 Kragar  Jun 3, 2014 2:55:00pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

Well, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

503 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 2:56:34pm

re: #493 Kragar

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He “refused to renounce America”? WTF does that even mean in the context of a border crossing? These people are beyond stupid.

504 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 2:56:49pm
“But it is Robert Bergdahl, the father, who is also engendering some controversy. He has learned to speak Pashto, the language of the Taliban, and looks like a Muslim,” O’Reilly said on his show. “He is also somewhat sympathetic to Islam, actually thanking Allah right in front of the president.”

Fox, go figure.

505 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 2:56:50pm

re: #502 Kragar

Well, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Too lame to ban, to dull to argue with. What a sad state.

506 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 3, 2014 2:56:52pm

re: #479 jaunte

The crux of the Biscuit

The poodle bites.

507 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 2:57:06pm
508 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 2:57:39pm

re: #503 CuriousLurker

He “refused to renounce America”? WTF does that even mean in the context of a border crossing? These people are beyond stupid.

And what happened to “accidentally”? They need to pick a version & stick with it.

509 teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2014 2:59:14pm

I knew somehow that Dave Brockie didn’t die of natural causes. How sad. At least I got to see Gwar on Halloween years ago.

510 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 2:59:25pm

re: #504 Varek Raith

Fox, go figure.

what was oreilly’s position on W celebrating eids and fitr in the white house?

511 Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2014 2:59:37pm

re: #430 EdDantes

Corruption and scandal free?
IRS, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, VA, Solyndra et al., James Rosen,…

None of these were the result of corruption. Some were honest screw ups, blown out of proportion and the others were fauxtrages over nontroversies.

Compared to some of the bullshit that happened during the Bush administration, which I never thought was bad enough to ever even consider the ‘I-word’, the Obama administration has been saintly.

512 TedStriker  Jun 3, 2014 3:00:00pm

re: #474 EdDantes

Oh, Lord. Typical LGF response. you people are hopeless.

You know, Ed, if you’re just gonna act like this, I have a tip for you: Don’t go away angry, just go away.

513 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 3:00:28pm

This makes my geeky heart happy:

514 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 3:00:45pm

Breitbart

515 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 3:01:51pm

Pashto, the language of the Taliban

then there’s italian and spanish, the languages of the inquisition, as well as english, the language of darwinism

i particularly dislike dutch, the language of dutch crunch

516 Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2014 3:02:07pm

Bingo
Bingo

517 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:03:26pm

re: #515 dog philosopher

Pashto, the language of the Taliban

then there’s italian and spanish, the languages of the inquisition, as well as english, the language of darwinism

i particularly dislike dutch, the language of dutch crunch

Then you’ve never had a Darby Dan’s Crab Salad Sandwich, with everything including the garlic spread, on Dutch Crunch.

518 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 3:04:43pm

re: #414 Varek Raith

Boobs.

/Had to be said.

Always.

519 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:06:17pm

re: #516 Dr. Matt

Bingo
Bingo

My son made fun of me for pronouncing ‘gif’ like the popular peanut butter that Choosey Mothers Choose.

I said, “Yeah, smart guy? Then how do you pronounce ‘G-I-F-T’?… Hey, shut up! I still pay all the bills here!!!”

520 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 3:07:44pm

re: #517 GeneJockey

Then you’ve never had a Darby Dan’s Crab Salad Sandwich, with everything including the garlic spread, on Dutch Crunch.

i hear they serve half-and-half sandwiches where the crabs and the shrimp co-habit with each other in unholy matrimony

next thing you know they’ll have sandwiches marrying their dogs

521 Justanotherhuman  Jun 3, 2014 3:08:18pm

Holy cow. Don’t mean to interrupt the discussion, but I inadvertently opened a bill addressed to my late son (I’ve been sending them back as “deceased”). It was for the Medivac when he was transported to Charlotte. Cost: $16,58.75 with an “uninsured discount” of $5,006.92, for a total of $11,451.82 (for a distance of about 35, maybe 40 mi).

Luckily, Medicaid will pay everything. Ironically, something he couldn’t get when he was alive, because also, ironically, he was considered “disabled” while he was hospitalized for 6 days before he died.

522 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:08:29pm

re: #519 GeneJockey

My son made fun of me for pronouncing ‘gif’ like the popular peanut butter that Choosey Mothers Choose.

I said, “Yeah, smart guy? Then how do you pronounce ‘G-I-F-T’?… Hey, shut up! I still pay all the bills here!!!”


It’s settled! Creator tells us how to pronounce ‘GIF’
:P

523 makeitstop  Jun 3, 2014 3:09:44pm

re: #506 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

The poodle bites.

St Alphonso’s Pancake Breakfast

524 TedStriker  Jun 3, 2014 3:09:58pm

re: #414 Varek Raith

Boobs.

/Had to be said.

re: #518 darthstar

Always.

I’d say “Tits or GTFO!”, but, somehow, I don’t think that the Lizardettes would care for that.

///

525 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 3:10:23pm

Eyewitness testimony

Reliability

The reliability of eyewitness testimony has been questioned by psychologists since the beginning of the 20th century.[1] However, many early studies on the matter were regarded as insufficient.

This questioning of its credibility began with Hugo Munsterberg, who first developed the field of Forensic Psychology. He specifically doubted the reliability of perception and memory in “On the Witness Stand.” Interrogation was mentioned as an issue because of its intimidating methods. Through this he developed an early version of the lie detector. There was a torn reaction to his ideas; while the legal arena was in stern disagreement, it was popular among the public.[2] It was not until forensic DNA testing began exonerating innocent people d 52 of the first 62 DNA exoneration cases involved eyewitness testimony.[3] The Innocence Project reports eyewitness misidentification occurs in approximately 75% of convictions that are overturned.[4]

In the USA, juries are responsible for assessing the credibility of witness testimony presented in a trial.[5] Research has shown that mock juries are often unable to distinguish between a false and accurate eyewitness testimony. The confidence level of the witness is often seen by jurors to correlate with the accuracy of their testimony. An overview of this research by Laub and Bornstein shows this to be an inaccurate gauge of accuracy.[6]

Another reason why eyewitness testimony may be faulty is due to an eye witness’s memory being influenced by things that they might hear or see after the crime occurred. This distortion is known as the post-event misinformation effect (Loftus and Palmer, 1974). After a crime occurs and an eyewitness comes forward, law enforcement tries to gather as much information as they can to avoid the influence that may come from the environment, such as the media. Many times when the crime is surrounded by much publicity, an eyewitness may experience source misattribution. Source misattribution is when a witness is incorrect about where or when they have the memory from. If a witness cannot correctly identify the source of their retrieved memory, the witness is seen as not reliable.

While some witnesses do see the entirety of a crime happen in front of them, there are some that only witness part of a crime. These witnesses are more likely to experience confirmation bias. Witness expectations are to blame for the distortion that may come from confirmation bias. For example, Lindholm and Christianson (1998)found that witnesses of a mock crime, who did not witness the whole crime, nevertheless testified to what they expect would have happened. These expectations are normally similar across individuals due to the details of the environment.

526 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:10:42pm

re: #522 Varek Raith


It’s settled! Creator tells us how to pronounce ‘GIF’
:P

Son of a bitch! I was RIGHT!!!!!

527 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:11:47pm

re: #522 Varek Raith


It’s settled! Creator tells us how to pronounce ‘GIF’
:P

Jesus says it’s pronounced “Heef”.

528 goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2014 3:12:35pm

re: #519 GeneJockey

My son made fun of me for pronouncing ‘gif’ like the popular peanut butter that Choosey Mothers Choose.

You are right and your son is wrong.

Steve Wilhite created the Graphics Interchange Format, or GIF, while working for Compuserve in 1987. On Tuesday, he received a Webby Award for it and delivered his five-word acceptance speech (that’s all the Webbys allow) by flashing a GIF on the big screens at the Cipriani Wall Street in New York.

And, in a flash, it all became clear:

“It’s pronounced JIF, not GIF.”

529 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:12:44pm

re: #520 dog philosopher

i hear they serve half-and-half sandwiches where the crabs and the shrimp co-habit with each other in unholy matrimony

next thing you know they’ll have sandwiches marrying their dogs

There’s also the Sleeper. I never understood the name till I had one and tried to stay awake while analyzing DNA sequence data.

530 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:13:58pm

re: #520 dog philosopher

i hear they serve half-and-half sandwiches where the crabs and the shrimp co-habit with each other in unholy matrimony

next thing you know they’ll have sandwiches marrying their dogs

…
*Backs slowly away*

531 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:14:17pm

re: #526 GeneJockey

Son of a bitch! I was RIGHT!!!!!

Show that kid who’s boss!
/

532 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 3:15:47pm

re: #527 Decatur Deb

Heev me the drink and seet down.

533 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 3, 2014 3:15:48pm

re: #493 Kragar

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As an old Army scout, I agree with this 100%.

534 klys  Jun 3, 2014 3:16:07pm

re: #525 Gus

Eyewitness testimony

I have a very distinct memory from about 3-4 years old of having observed a cloud-to-ground lightning strike at a range where escaping physical harm would be incredibly unlikely, and some of the physical phenomena that would accompany it being completely missing. Pretty clearly not a real memory.

Once I realized that, I became much more skeptical of eyewitness accounts.

535 A Mom Anon  Jun 3, 2014 3:16:48pm

re: #521 Justanotherhuman

When my grandkids were in a car wreck last year about this time, they had to life flight my grandson about 65 miles away to a trauma center. The cost for just that was 30K. Over 200K for all three kids’ injuries, two head injuries, a broken arm, grandson was in a medically induced coma for 36 hours, assorted bumps and bruises and the like. They were sent home after THREE days. Three days and close to a quarter million dollars. The attorneys and insurance companies, along with Medicaid are fighting it out still. It’s nuts.

536 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 3:16:52pm
537 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 3:17:04pm

A press release from Kelly Ayotte regarding Bowe Bergdahl addressed to Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel - Dated January 24th 2014. In addition of McCain interview. McCain, Graham and Ayotte often times sing (parrot) the same song regarding defense department issues.

AYOTTE LETTER TO SECRETARY HAGEL:

The Honorable Chuck Hagel
Secretary of Defense
1000 Defense Pentagon
Washington, DC 20301-1000

Dear Secretary Hagel:

I am writing to request an update on the Department of Defense’s (DoD) efforts to locate and bring home Sergeant Bowe R. Bergdahl.

On January 15, it was reported that a proof-of-life video featuring Sergeant Bergdahl was received by DoD. Can you please confirm whether this video exists and has been received by the Pentagon? If the reports are accurate, this video appears to provide hope that Sergeant Bergdahl may be alive.

This June will mark five years since Bowe Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban. After so long in captivity, DoD must redouble its efforts to find Sergeant Bergdahl and return him safely to his family.

Our men and women in uniform must know that if they are captured by the enemy, our nation will not rest until they are rescued.

I look forward to receiving your response. Thank you for your service to our country.

From Ayottes’ own web site. Ayotte Urges Defense Secretary to Redouble Efforts to Find Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl

I haven’t heard anything from her yet, but just in case…

538 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 3:17:56pm

I voted.

539 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:18:52pm

re: #534 klys

I have a very distinct memory from about 3-4 years old of having observed a cloud-to-ground lightning strike at a range where escaping physical harm would be incredibly unlikely, and some of the physical phenomena that would accompany it being completely missing. Pretty clearly not a real memory.

Once I realized that, I became much more skeptical of eyewitness accounts.

Are you old enough to remember the McMartin Preschool debacle? Children testified to having all sorts of things done to them, Satanic rituals, etc. One thing that they probably DIDN’T bring up at the trial was the children claiming they’d witnessed the ritual slaughter of zoo animals.

Turns out you can easily convince people, especially children who want to please an adult, that they witnessed things that didn’t happen.

540 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 3:19:35pm

re: #528 goddamnedfrank

You are right and your son is wrong.

It will always be GIF with a hard g to me. Jif is a crappy peanut butter.

541 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 3:19:38pm

re: #527 Decatur Deb

Jesus says it’s pronounced “Heef”.

i’m going with the greek pronunciation, ‘yiff’

542 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:20:17pm

re: #541 dog philosopher

i’m going with the greek pronunciation, ‘yiff’

I’m just going to call it a magical moving picture.

543 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 3:20:18pm

re: #525 Gus

There is an old Russian saying, which goes, “He lies like an eyewitness”.

544 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:20:38pm

re: #532 jaunte

Heev me the drink and seet down.

Won’t it spill if I heave it to you instead of just putting it down in front of you?

545 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 3:20:44pm

re: #540 darthstar

It will always be GIF with a hard g to me. Jif is a crappy peanut butter.

I would like to save my photos as Skippy files.

546 klys  Jun 3, 2014 3:21:00pm

re: #539 GeneJockey

Are you old enough to remember the McMartin Preschool debacle? Children testified to having all sorts of things done to them, Satanic rituals, etc. One thing that they probably DIDN’T bring up at the trial was the children claiming they’d witnessed the ritual slaughter of zoo animals.

Turns out you can easily convince people, especially children who want to please an adult, that they witnessed things that didn’t happen.

Nope, but I read about it after the fact.

In the case of the lightning strike, I have concluded that most probably it was a nightmare, but who can tell for sure? I’ve recounted the memory to my parents and they were both unaware of anything like that ever happening, and the furniture wasn’t in quite the proper arrangement for that age range.

The lit match my mom dropped on me on my 4th birthday, however, was real.

547 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:21:04pm

re: #538 wrenchwench

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I voted.

I didn’t. The few Dems we could get to run are unopposed, so I took the ‘pissing blood and blue urine’ exemption.

548 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 3:21:52pm

re: #539 GeneJockey

Are you old enough to remember the McMartin Preschool debacle? Children testified to having all sorts of things done to them, Satanic rituals, etc. One thing that they probably DIDN’T bring up at the trial was the children claiming they’d witnessed the ritual slaughter of zoo animals.

Turns out you can easily convince people, especially children who want to please an adult, that they witnessed things that didn’t happen.

I certainly remember it. One of the first instances of mass hysteria/moral panic I can recall in my lifetime. I was quite young, in my early teens.

549 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 3:22:09pm

re: #547 Decatur Deb

I didn’t. The few Dems we could get to run are unopposed, so I took the ‘pissing blood and blue urine’ exemption.

How’re you doing?

550 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:22:18pm

re: #534 klys

I have a very distinct memory from about 3-4 years old of having observed a cloud-to-ground lightning strike at a range where escaping physical harm would be incredibly unlikely, and some of the physical phenomena that would accompany it being completely missing. Pretty clearly not a real memory.

Once I realized that, I became much more skeptical of eyewitness accounts.

Oy, I constantly confuse sounds I hear in dreams and vice versa.

551 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 3:22:47pm

re: #532 jaunte

Heev me the drink and seet down.

unfrozen siberian girlfriend keeps confusing me by talking about the green beans

you know, the green garbage beans on the curb

552 klys  Jun 3, 2014 3:23:00pm

re: #538 wrenchwench

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I voted.

I remembered to vote this morning, just barely.

CA’s primary system is all weird as shit now. But I got to not vote for Orly and that other AG candidate that wrote about how he was going to defend the laws in court including Prop 8.

553 teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2014 3:23:10pm
554 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 3:23:21pm

Nope. Too big and messy. And it started long before Obama became POTUS.

Republicans will stick with being raging hypocrites about prisoner swaps instead.

555 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:23:53pm

re: #549 wrenchwench

How’re you doing?

Haven’t put my socks on yet. Dog has missed his walks for the second day. He senses weakness, and might try to take over the pack, but he lacks the intelligence. And a can-opener.

556 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:24:34pm

re: #555 Decatur Deb

Haven’t put my socks on yet. Dog has missed his walks for the second day. He senses weakness, and might try to take over the pack, but he lacks the intelligence. And a can-opener.

You okay?

557 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:25:00pm

re: #540 darthstar

It will always be GIF with a hard g to me. Jif is a crappy peanut butter.

Jif surely is crappy peanut butter. Yeesh. And I used to LOVE that shit.

558 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 3:25:40pm
559 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 3:25:41pm

re: #555 Decatur Deb

Haven’t put my socks on yet. Dog has missed his walks for the second day. He senses weakness, and might try to take over the pack, but he lacks the intelligence. And a can-opener.

Keep showing him your thumbs. They’re still good, right?

560 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:25:59pm

re: #555 Decatur Deb

Haven’t put my socks on yet. Dog has missed his walks for the second day. He senses weakness, and might try to take over the pack, but he lacks the intelligence. And a can-opener.

I sense that I missed something during my obsession with my new car, and getting some work done.

561 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 3:26:39pm

re: #534 klys

I have a very distinct memory from about 3-4 years old of having observed a cloud-to-ground lightning strike at a range where escaping physical harm would be incredibly unlikely, and some of the physical phenomena that would accompany it being completely missing. Pretty clearly not a real memory.

Once I realized that, I became much more skeptical of eyewitness accounts.

Then you have a group effect. They were no doubt corroborating and talking through the events. Leading to statements like, “now that you mention it, that was what he way carrying.”

562 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 3:27:04pm
563 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:27:56pm

re: #556 Varek Raith

You okay?

Yeah, thanks. On a normal heal, but they couldn’t do litho, so they did a snatch-and-grab. I think they used the rotorooter. The blue piss is from an ovate pill that looks like Viagra. Thank god it isn’t.

564 Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2014 3:28:04pm

re: #522 Varek Raith


It’s settled! Creator tells us how to pronounce ‘GIF’
:P

He invented the GIF file format, he didn’t invent how letters and words are pronounced. The letters in acronyms are pronounced the same as the word they represent. The word “Graphic” is not pronounced with a soft-G or J sound at the beginning so neither would GIF. I don’t give a rat’s ass what that guy says.

565 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:28:22pm

re: #559 wrenchwench

Keep showing him your thumbs. They’re still good, right?

When the younger boy was still in the single digits age-wise, he and his Mother saw a Mad Dog Delivery truck, with a logo of an angry dog gripping a steering wheel. My wife said, “He can’t drive! He doesn’t have a license!”

Younger boy said, “No, he has a license. He doesn’t have opposable thumbs!”

566 bratwurst  Jun 3, 2014 3:28:51pm

How about a math break?

567 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:29:19pm

re: #560 GeneJockey

I sense that I missed something during my obsession with my new car, and getting some work done.

Adventures in Backwoods Dick Surgery. It’s all over but the whining now.

568 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 3:29:20pm

re: #558 Lidane

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rawstory.com

569 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 3:29:28pm

re: #552 klys

I remembered to vote this morning, just barely.

CA’s primary system is all weird as shit now. But I got to not vote for Orly and that other AG candidate that wrote about how he was going to defend the laws in court including Prop 8.

Me too. There was a lot of sorting through candidates now that we don’t divide things up by party. Normally I’m saved from having to even think about whomever the American Independent Party, et. al. might be fielding.

570 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 3:29:35pm
571 Justanotherhuman  Jun 3, 2014 3:30:26pm

re: #535 A Mom Anon

When my grandkids were in a car wreck last year about this time, they had to life flight my grandson about 65 miles away to a trauma center. The cost for just that was 30K. Over 200K for all three kids’ injuries, two head injuries, a broken arm, grandson was in a medically induced coma for 36 hours, assorted bumps and bruises and the like. They were sent home after THREE days. Three days and close to a quarter million dollars. The attorneys and insurance companies, along with Medicaid are fighting it out still. It’s nuts.

Yes, it is. I remember when the elderly father of an atty I worked for was hospitalized for about a 2 weeks in the early 80s for a stroke, and the bill was close to $100K, and the atty almost had a stroke himself over the bill.

I was able to give an app for Medicaid over the phone through the hospital, though, and she said it would pay for everything, which is good, because he had no assets, no income (he was waiting for yet another disability hearing), and no estate of any kind.

572 Varek Raith  Jun 3, 2014 3:31:50pm

re: #563 Decatur Deb

Yeah, thanks. On a normal heal, but they couldn’t do litho, so they did a snatch-and-grab. I think they used the rotorooter. The blue piss is from an ovate pill that looks like Viagra. Thank god it isn’t.

Yikes!

573 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:31:59pm

re: #567 Decatur Deb

Adventures in Backwoods Dick Surgery. It’s all over but the whining now.

Ah. May all your whining be exaggeration!

574 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 3:32:00pm
575 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 3:33:21pm

re: #534 klys

I have a very distinct memory from about 3-4 years old of having observed a cloud-to-ground lightning strike at a range where escaping physical harm would be incredibly unlikely, and some of the physical phenomena that would accompany it being completely missing. Pretty clearly not a real memory.

Once I realized that, I became much more skeptical of eyewitness accounts.

Even actual events tend to be remembered quite differently by different people who experienced them at the same time. Anyone with siblings will be able to attest to that, as will anyone who has attended a family reunion or other similar event and then reminisced about it later with others who were there.

576 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:33:26pm

re: #569 calochortus

Me too. There was a lot of sorting through candidates now that we don’t divide things up by party. Normally I’m saved from having to even think about whomever the American Independent Party, et. al. might be fielding.

Imagine my surprise when Orly Taitz appeared on my ballot.

577 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 3:34:20pm

re: #564 Jack Burton

He invented the GIF file format, he didn’t invent how letters and words are pronounced. The letters in acronyms are pronounced the same as the word they represent. The word “Graphic” is not pronounced with a soft-G or J sound at the beginning so neither would GIF. I don’t give a rat’s ass what that guy says.

then you’re with me on the issue of ‘char*’ not ever ever ever being pronounced “tchar-star”?

it’s a character pointer fercrissakes

578 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:34:55pm

re: #575 CuriousLurker

Even actual events tend to be remembered quite differently by different people who experienced them at the same time. Anyone with siblings will be able to attest to that, as will anyone who has attended a family reunion or other similar event and then reminisced about it later with others who were there.

I have one sister whose memories of our shared childhood don’t match ANYONE else in the family. We nod and smile (and exchange furtive glances) when she starts reminiscing.

579 klys  Jun 3, 2014 3:36:22pm

re: #577 dog philosopher

then you’re with me on the issue of ‘char*’ not ever ever ever being pronounced “tchar-star”?

it’s a character pointer fercrissakes

It’s a car-star!

580 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 3:36:37pm

re: #576 GeneJockey

Imagine my surprise when Orly Taitz appeared on my ballot.

On the top line, no less.

581 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 3:37:08pm

re: #480 Kragar

Why the fuck did he need to drive around with a truck load of guns in San Diego? Afraid a horde of banditos was going to way lay him?

HE WAS HOMELESS AND LIVING IN HIS CAR WITH ALL HIS WORLDLY BELONGINGS

582 dog philosopher  Jun 3, 2014 3:37:31pm

re: #579 klys

It’s a car-star!

AAAAAAAAAAGH!

583 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 3:37:53pm

re: #575 CuriousLurker

Even actual events tend to be remembered quite differently by different people who experienced them at the same time. Anyone with siblings will be able to attest to that, as will anyone who has attended a family reunion or other similar event and then reminisced about it later with others who were there.

Someone should make a movie with that theme. Maybe a Japanese one?

(although it wasn’t exactly about a family reunion…)

584 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:38:16pm

re: #564 Jack Burton

He invented the GIF file format, he didn’t invent how letters and words are pronounced. The letters in acronyms are pronounced the same as the word they represent. The word “Graphic” is not pronounced with a soft-G or J sound at the beginning so neither would GIF. I don’t give a rat’s ass what that guy says.

So why is SNAFU pronounced ‘snafoo’, and not ‘snoffuh’?
//

585 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:38:29pm

re: #583 calochortus

Someone should make a movie with that theme. Maybe a Japanese one?

Rashzilla?

586 klys  Jun 3, 2014 3:38:44pm

re: #582 dog philosopher

AAAAAAAAAAGH!

I can tell you which professor at Stanford to take my pronunciation up with.

587 palomino  Jun 3, 2014 3:39:20pm

re: #163 Kragar

Impeachment is something most people don’t understand. Especially the tp/gop at this moment in history.

You don’t get to impeach a president over something he did that you think was a mistake. Even if you attach the word scandal to it, that doesn’t make it an impeachable offense.

588 calochortus  Jun 3, 2014 3:39:53pm

re: #585 Decatur Deb

Rashzilla?

Comparing how Godzilla and Mothra remember various events?

589 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:41:00pm

re: #585 Decatur Deb

Rashzilla?

Now THAT would be an interesting movie - Japanese Creature film, done from multiple viewpoints.

Anyone see the Angry Beavers’ ‘Rashomon’ episode? Each character’s reminiscence was in a different cartoon style. My favorite was the teen girl’s Anime version complete with the huge eye/tiny pupil/jagged mouth surprised look.

590 Archangelus  Jun 3, 2014 3:41:17pm

re: #566 bratwurst

How about a math break?

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* Insert Industrial-grade facepalm here *

That also applies in general to most of the deranged RWNJ statements seen in this article and comments…

591 Eventual Carrion  Jun 3, 2014 3:41:30pm

re: #512 TedStriker

You know, Ed, if you’re just gonna act like this, I have a tip for you: Don’t go away angry, just go away.

Really Ed.
Next time you’re passing by, why don’t you.

592 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:41:40pm

re: #588 calochortus

Comparing how Godzilla and Mothra remember various events?

With a subtheme of how the taste of roller-coasters trigger submerged memories.

593 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 3:41:56pm

re: #545 wrenchwench

I would like to save my photos as Skippy files.

Skippy is a type of dog food.

594 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:43:15pm

re: #587 palomino

Impeachment is something most people don’t understand. Especially the tp/gop at this moment in history.

You don’t get to impeach a president over something he did that you think was a mistake. Even if you attach the word scandal to it, that doesn’t make it an impeachable offense.

No, silly! Impeachment is a chance for a Do-Over for Republicans who can’t win elections!
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595 Justanotherhuman  Jun 3, 2014 3:44:14pm

When ideology tries to trump the existing Federal law.

Georgia officials told they cannot implement a new law requiring drug tests for some food stamp applicants and recipients - @ajc
Read more on ajc.com

Idiots.

596 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 3:45:28pm

Crashman? My Spidey sense is tingling….

597 TedStriker  Jun 3, 2014 3:49:38pm

re: #596 CuriousLurker

Crashman? My Spidey sense is tingling….

???

598 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 3:50:03pm
599 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 3:51:46pm

re: #597 TedStriker

???

New registrant. Maybe a false alarm, first post seems okay. Guess I’m feeling a little twitchy with everything that’s going on.

600 Justanotherhuman  Jun 3, 2014 3:55:17pm

White House considering nominating Cleveland Clinic head as next Veterans Affairs secretary - @WSJbreakingnews
End of alert

601 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 3:55:59pm

re: #595 Justanotherhuman

When ideology tries to trump the existing Federal law.

Georgia officials told they cannot implement a new law requiring drug tests for some food stamp applicants and recipients - @ajc
Read more on ajc.com

Idiots.

Highlighted in that AJC twitter line. Someone alert the Chief Justice:

Black workers sue over ‘white’ water fountain

newstome.blog.ajc.com

602 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 3:56:08pm

There she is! I was wondering when the welcoming committee was going to greet him.

603 GeneJockey  Jun 3, 2014 3:56:12pm

The extent of my gardening skills…

Pea-Tatoes

604 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 3:56:52pm

re: #603 GeneJockey

The extent of my gardening skills…

Pea-Tatoes

LOLOLOL

605 b.d.  Jun 3, 2014 3:57:19pm

re: #603 GeneJockey

That’s one huge dime.

606 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 3:59:23pm

OT, but just damn…..this is nuts. A studio apartment in London (N1 post code) near Kings Cross station was rented within half a day of being put on the market. This studio is so tiny it makes my studio apartment look like the penthouse suite at the Ritz-Carlton.

This isn’t a studio apartment - it’s a broom closet

The best part….all that could be yours for a mere $1234.11 per month.

O_O

independent.co.uk

607 klys  Jun 3, 2014 4:00:20pm

re: #603 GeneJockey

The extent of my gardening skills…

Pea-Tatoes

Last year, our cherry tomato plant produced a whole 7 tomatoes.

608 Ed E. Lishus  Jun 3, 2014 4:02:20pm

This EdDantes person thinks most…uncritically.

609 palomino  Jun 3, 2014 4:02:34pm

re: #363 Dr. Matt

NRO: A Tale of Two GIs: Obama Jumps for Bergdahl, Leaves Tahmooressi to Rot

“Jumps”? Bergdahl was a POW for five years. Jebus. Idiots.

More evidence that NRO has sunk into the Blaze/Red State/Daily Caller/FoxNation gutter.

When Tahmooressi gets released, listen for the crickets from NRO. That’s all you’ll hear.

610 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 4:03:34pm

Here’s Cody. One of the “witnesses.”

611 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 4:04:50pm
612 Ed E. Lishus  Jun 3, 2014 4:05:09pm

re: #606 Dr Lizardo

There are places in the LA area, like Pasadena near Old Town and the theater district, that come close to rivaling those kinds of rents.

613 Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2014 4:05:17pm

re: #609 palomino

When Tahmooressi gets released, listen for the crickets from NRO. That’s all you’ll hear.

Didn’t this guy allegedly break weapons laws in Mexico?

614 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 4:05:58pm

Whoboy. Links to Gatestone.

615 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 4:06:34pm

re: #610 Gus

Here’s Cody. One of the “witnesses.”

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I thought that was a stalker nic when I first saw it.

His twit bio:

@CodyFNfootball

Those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else.

616 TedStriker  Jun 3, 2014 4:07:49pm

re: #615 wrenchwench

I thought that was a stalker nic when I first saw it.

His twit bio:

Creeptastic

617 Gus  Jun 3, 2014 4:08:06pm

re: #615 wrenchwench

I thought that was a stalker nic when I first saw it.

His twit bio:

Hates liberals. Hates Muslims. Hates books. Hates learning foreign languages. Hmm.

618 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 4:08:06pm

re: #612 Ed E. Lishus

There are places in the LA area, like Pasadena near Old Town and the theater district, that come close to rivaling those kinds of rents.

That’s insane….my studio is 376 sq. ft., and rent here comes to about $267, including power/water, per month.

I guess I’ll stay here for the foreseeable future.

619 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 4:08:42pm

re: #613 Dave In Austin

Didn’t this guy allegedly break weapons laws in Mexico?

On trial for it right now. Fired his lawyer recently.

620 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 4:10:26pm

Quick…look pathetic for the camera!

621 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 4:11:39pm
622 A Mom Anon  Jun 3, 2014 4:11:48pm

re: #595 Justanotherhuman

Oh Georgia. And people really do believe that “their” taxes pay for people to sit around and get high all day and gorge themselves on free government funded food. Never mind that it costs more to test the people than it saves in the less than 1 percent of people who do abuse the system. Or that most poor people aren’t on drugs, they’re the working poor, food stamps help keep the money from running out before the month does.

If Our Media didn’t suck, people would know this stuff. But, it’s easier to hate on poor people instead of the assholes that refuse to pay a living wage for a 40 hour work week.

623 klys  Jun 3, 2014 4:13:08pm

re: #620 darthstar

Quick…look pathetic for the camera!

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I really don’t know what to say about this. These guys got to come home, back to their families, for the past five years.

Good fucking lord, if the people I was supposed to be depending on them to watch my back treated me the way it sounds like these folks did, I’d fucking desert.

624 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 4:15:14pm

re: #605 b.d.

That’s one huge dime.

He’s going to try to grow wooden nickels next.

625 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 4:16:41pm
626 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 4:17:03pm
627 jaunte  Jun 3, 2014 4:18:35pm

re: #626 darthstar

What a trustworthy looking bunch.

628 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 4:18:47pm

To give an example of what’s available here, you can check out this apartment for rent, 441 sq ft for $276 p/m.

reality.avizo.cz

I know the neighborhood where this apartment is, and it’s a quiet residential part of town.

629 Zamb  Jun 3, 2014 4:20:11pm

re: #622 A Mom Anon

I’ve come to the understanding that a conservative is someone who would rather see a thousand people starve than see someone they deem as unworthy get something they think he doesn’t deserve regardless of the reality

630 A Mom Anon  Jun 3, 2014 4:24:58pm

re: #626 darthstar

And it’s the same idiot in the fedora again. You know, if they keep this up, it’ll be real interesting to see how many places their supporters are going to have to boycott. Hmm. Maybe they won’t have to leave the house anymore. Bonus! Good luck buying groceries at Home Depot, lol.

631 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 4:25:03pm
632 darthstar  Jun 3, 2014 4:25:43pm

re: #627 jaunte

What a trustworthy looking bunch.

Looks like an eighth grade education…cumulatively.

633 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 3, 2014 4:26:30pm

re: #606 Dr Lizardo

OT, but just damn…..this is nuts. A studio apartment in London (N1 post code) near Kings Cross station was rented within half a day of being put on the market. This studio is so tiny it makes my studio apartment look like the penthouse suite at the Ritz-Carlton.

This isn’t a studio apartment - it’s a broom closet

The best part….all that could be yours for a mere $1234.11 per month.

O_O

independent.co.uk

You can buy a 5-bedroom house in Detroit for about that much.

Location, location, location.

634 Lidane  Jun 3, 2014 4:28:27pm

re: #626 darthstar

Oh look. It’s the Open Carry Texas idiots. I’m sure the NRA is happy with this development.

////

635 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 4:28:38pm

re: #626 darthstar

Oh look. Three jerkoffs.

636 nines09  Jun 3, 2014 4:29:21pm

Maybe 4? 5?

637 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 4:31:00pm

re: #633 Pie-onist Overlord

You can buy a 5-bedroom house in Detroit for about that much.

Location, location, location.

Yep…..it’s all about the location.

This is the street view of the apartment I posted about in my #628.

maps.google.com

Quiet residential area, close to a tram station, and not far from various shops. Similar to my neighborhood.

638 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 3, 2014 4:35:44pm

re: #637 Dr Lizardo

Yep…..it’s all about the location.

This is the street view of the apartment I posted about in my #628.

maps.google.com

Quiet residential area, close to a tram station, and not far from various shops. Similar to my neighborhood.

My place is a bit more spacious than that studio. But it also appears to have an infestation of feline overlords.

Who dat who callin’ us an infestation?

639 Killgore Trout  Jun 3, 2014 4:36:17pm

The prisoner-swap deal that saved Bowe Bergdahl might have been a bad one, but it was also moral and necessary.

…over the years, America has dressed up many of its policies as moral imperatives. Idealism and realpolitik mix both uneasily and easily in U.S. foreign policy and always will. That’s because Americans need a certain measure of illusion and delusion to believe in who they are, and that the country is acting for all the right reasons.

That all may be rife with inconsistencies. But another inconsistency is on display now: Many of the same people who demand that U.S. foreign policy more or less always be guided by moral imperatives are not comfortable with a decision that followed precisely that lead. They are criticizing the decision to bring Bergdahl home — or at least, the way in which the deal went down — not comfortable, it seems, that their own principles were put into action, with other factors taking a backseat.

The deal that brought Bowe Bergdahl home might have been a bad deal, but it was a moral and necessary one. That’s a contradiction worth embracing.

640 CuriousLurker  Jun 3, 2014 4:36:48pm

Good grief, I have to get more exercise. I just worked myself up into a dripping sweat taking macro photos. Using a tripod. Indoors. With the A/C on. O-o

641 palomino  Jun 3, 2014 4:37:24pm

I think this pretty much nails it. Basically Bergdahl is the new Benghazi because Obama hates America.

The Palin Tendency and Bowe Bergdahl

Tomasky today predicts that the Bergdahl prisoner swap may well become the next Benghazi on the fetid horizons of the Palinite right. I hope he’s wrong, but I’ve learned not to under-estimate the extremism of the Dolchstoss brigade. The Benghazi and Bergdahl “scandals”, after all, are both rooted in the assumption that the president is in some way anti-American, that his loyalty is somehow not to the United States, but to some other abstract but foreign authority, and so he would obviously be happy to leave Americans to perish in an undefended consulate and lie about it afterwards to cover his negligence up … or be content to deal with the Taliban on behalf of another “anti-American”.

Beneath the intricacies and easy emotional manipulation, this McCarthy era paranoia is what drives both obsessions. The contradictions are, of course, bleeding obvious. Obama is to be excoriated for abandoning Americans in the line of fire in Benghazi and then excoriated for rescuing a servicemember in enemy captivity in the matter of Bowe Bergdahl. You’ll see that, not for the first time, the president cannot win.

I’m not saying, of course, that robust pushback against this tough call is not legitimate. That’s embedded in the very notion of a tough call. There are powerful questions that need addressing:

Was the deal a good one? How effective will the monitoring of the Taliban commanders be? Did the president comply with the letter of the law? But I’d argue vehemently that Bergdahl’s personal politics and Obama’s core motivations aren’t among them. Whether Bergdahl was a deserter or not, whether he was “anti-American” or not, whether he may have cooperated with his captors under duress or not: these questions should be dealt with by the regular process of military justice and investigation. But none of that can truly happen without Bergdahl himself to question and interrogate. And if we are going to rescue a service-member depending on our assessment of his politics or character, we have undermined a key principle of military justice and discipline. You wear the uniform, you get rescued if captured. Period. No other questions need to be asked or answered until after you’re safe and in US custody.

642 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 3, 2014 4:38:20pm

re: #606 Dr Lizardo

OT, but just damn…..this is nuts. A studio apartment in London (N1 post code) near Kings Cross station was rented within half a day of being put on the market. This studio is so tiny it makes my studio apartment look like the penthouse suite at the Ritz-Carlton.

This isn’t a studio apartment - it’s a broom closet

The best part….all that could be yours for a mere $1234.11 per month.

O_O

independent.co.uk

Yikes! And I feel ripped off paying $500 a month for my 14x66 single wide former FEMA Katrina Trailer. Lots of room for a single guy in this thing.

643 Killgore Trout  Jun 3, 2014 4:40:55pm

re: #615 wrenchwench

I thought that was a stalker nic when I first saw it.

His twit bio:

It’s Hemingway
brainyquote.com

644 Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2014 4:41:03pm

re: #642 William Barnett-Lewis

Yikes! And I feel ripped off paying $500 a month for my 14x66 single wide former FEMA Katrina Trailer. Lots of room for a single guy in this thing.

Hell, even my studio is spacious by the standards of the one rented in London. I can’t complain too much.

645 Killgore Trout  Jun 3, 2014 4:43:09pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

It’s Hemingway
brainyquote.com

…and I think it’s a melancholy reflection on how war changes men

646 ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2014 4:43:45pm

re: #600 Justanotherhuman

White House considering nominating Cleveland Clinic head as next Veterans Affairs secretary - @WSJbreakingnews
End of alert

Whoa. The Cleveland Clinic does fantastic work and it is a very large system. Also they are very modern in their approaches to care and always looking at any new ways that come along. There has been speculation that they might go for a non-military head, so this fits. If this happens good luck!

647 wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2014 5:06:42pm

re: #645 Killgore Trout

…and I think it’s a melancholy reflection on how war changes men

It’s a shitty thing for him to crap on a former team member when he has not been able to speak to him personally about what happened. Sounds like he didn’t want to speak to him before he left, either.

648 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 3, 2014 6:13:05pm

I registered just to upding the Michele Bachmann beard joke.

649 Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2014 6:38:53pm

re: #648 BlueSpotinAL

I registered just to upding the Michele Bachmann beard joke.

Welcome. Now there are two of us.


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