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1 S'latch  Jun 6, 2014 9:55:50am

This is issue no. 1 with me. It is the clearest reason to me that the Republicans need to be out of power. I hope they will be out of power to a larger degree soon. However, 2014 does not look promising right now.

2 Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2014 10:01:01am

Decades from now, as the effects of global warming become impossible to deny, many of those lawmakers today who made their bones attacking scientists for sounding the alarm will be regarded like those who argued that leaded gasoline and cigarettes were harmless.

3 FemNaziBitch  Jun 6, 2014 10:03:03am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Decades from now, as the effects of global warming become impossible to deny, many of those lawmakers today who made their bones attacking scientists for sounding the alarm will be regarded like those who argued that leaded gasoline and cigarettes were harmless.

They’ll be preaching that it is the fault of sexual behavior, and if we all don’t top having sex, the end will come.

Then the’ll burn more woman at the stake.

4 Ace-o-aces  Jun 6, 2014 10:03:13am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Decades from now, as the effects of global warming become impossible to deny, many of those lawmakers today who made their bones attacking scientists for sounding the alarm will be regarded like those who argued that leaded gasoline and cigarettes were harmless.

I got bad news for you buddy, it’s still the same people.

5 FemNaziBitch  Jun 6, 2014 10:04:22am
6 jaunte  Jun 6, 2014 10:04:55am
7 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:05:00am

I wonder how these people would explain why so few scientists reject the idea that carbon dioxide causing global warming is a hoax.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Oh yeah that’s right, its a conspiracy or they’re not “real” scientists, because “real” scientists agree with us, just like “real” scientists reject evolution.

As much as I wish climate change wasn’t real, denying it, won’t make it go away.

8 Ian G.  Jun 6, 2014 10:06:23am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Decades from now, as the effects of global warming become impossible to deny, many of those lawmakers today who made their bones attacking scientists for sounding the alarm will be regarded like those who argued that leaded gasoline and cigarettes were harmless.

I dunno. I feel like the GOP is so pathetic, that you could have Marco Rubio standing in 3 feet of water where Miami Beach once stood and deny that there was ever a city there (liberal propaganda!)

Also, it’s impossible not to contrast this with the Montreal Protocol (passed under Reagan): swift action against ozone depletion. If that had waited 25 years, we’d have Rush Limbaugh telling everyone how UV radiation is good for us. And we’d all be dying of melanoma.

9 FemNaziBitch  Jun 6, 2014 10:06:31am

Twitter Banned My Company From Promoting Safe Condom Use

10 Gus  Jun 6, 2014 10:06:53am

Their climate change stance is a reflection of their world view on many things.

11 FemNaziBitch  Jun 6, 2014 10:07:04am

bbl

12 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:07:07am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Decades from now, as the effects of global warming become impossible to deny, many of those lawmakers today who made their bones attacking scientists for sounding the alarm will be regarded like those who argued that leaded gasoline and cigarettes were harmless.

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

They’ll be preaching that it is the fault of sexual behavior, and if we all don’t top having sex, the end will come.

Then the’ll burn more woman at the stake.

You forgot to mention how they’ll blame the gays.

13 S'latch  Jun 6, 2014 10:07:37am

They deny it simply because they are motivated by greed and a desire for power.

14 Ian G.  Jun 6, 2014 10:08:18am

re: #7 CriticalDragon1177

I wonder how these people would explain why so few scientists reject the idea that carbon dioxide causing global warming is a hoax.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Oh yeah that’s right, its a conspiracy or they’re not “real” scientists, because “real” scientists agree with us, just like “real” scientists reject evolution.

As much as I wish climate change wasn’t real, denying it, won’t make it go away.

Those scientists are on the take. Just like the investigators who failed to find explosives in the WTC rubble. With conspiracy theorists, the overwhelming evidence against the conspiracy is just proof at how far the conspiracy has spread.

And yes, I consider climate change deniers just as morally and intellectually bankrupt as 9/11 truthers.

15 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:08:34am

The few, the proud, the ignorant, the GOP.

16 FemNaziBitch  Jun 6, 2014 10:09:12am

re: #12 CriticalDragon1177

You forgot to mention how they’ll blame the gays.

That falls under “sexual behavior” —no?

bbl, for real.

17 b.d.  Jun 6, 2014 10:09:40am

If only they were to make the effects of climate change a tax deductible line item, then the republicans would be all over it and find even more ways that climate change costs them.

18 Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2014 10:10:02am

re: #8 Ian G.

I dunno. I feel like the GOP is so pathetic, that you could have Marco Rubio standing in 3 feet of water where Miami Beach once stood and deny that there was ever a city there (liberal propaganda!)

Also, it’s impossible not to contrast this with the Montreal Protocol (passed under Reagan): swift action against ozone depletion. If that had waited 25 years, we’d have Rush Limbaugh telling everyone how UV radiation is good for us. And we’d all be dying of melanoma.

Ayep. Just like rivers and lakes turning into burning cauldrons motivated Nixon to create the EPA in the first place. Thing about global warming is that its been so slow moving that the detractors have, amongst other excuses, simply written off its effects as “cycles.” I wonder how long this particular “cycle” has to continue before even that excuse falls apart.

19 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:10:20am

re: #10 Gus

Their climate change stance is a reflection of their world view on many things.

Capitalists are always the good guys, so big business can do no wrong. Science that goes against our world view isn’t science, its the communists trying to destroy the free market, good God fearing Christians and America!

20 nines09  Jun 6, 2014 10:12:08am

Wow. That was like Spartacus. “I’m Spartacus!” No! I’M Spartacus! “NO I’m Spartacus!!!” It would be funny if it wasn’t so clear that the GOP agenda has nothing whatsoever to do with the health and welfare of not only this nation, but humanity as a whole. Entirely corrupt and not an honest man among them.

21 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:12:15am

re: #14 Ian G.

Those scientists are on the take. Just like the investigators who failed to find explosives in the WTC rubble. With conspiracy theorists, the overwhelming evidence against the conspiracy is just proof at how far the conspiracy has spread.

And yes, I consider climate change deniers just as morally and intellectually bankrupt as 9/11 truthers.

I know, thankfully very few Americans believe the 9/11 “truth” nonsense.

22 Kragar  Jun 6, 2014 10:12:51am
23 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:13:24am

Wingnut/GOP view on climate change in a nutshell. Scientists are distorting climate change data for money but let’s be blissfully ignore the business interests that stand to benefit tons financially by climate change not being considered real. Really, they accuse the scientists of being greedy yet ignore the fact that the industries they love to apologize for have much more to gain financially than the scientists do. Can you say hypocritical bullshit?

24 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:14:39am

re: #22 Kragar

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Yeah, Tony, it’s just like that. Your bigoted ass having to make a cake for a gay couple is just like being murdered savagely because of your religious identity. Now tell me again how you respect the Jewish people when you say insane shit like that and get your mailing list from a former KKK leader who routinely attacks Jews, you anti-semitic piece of shit.

25 Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2014 10:15:01am

re: #22 Kragar

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Let me know when bakery owners are getting stuffed into cattle cars, moved to concentration camps, beaten and tortured, allowed to starve until they resemble skeletons, used as slave labor, and ultimately gassed in large groups.

26 Kragar  Jun 6, 2014 10:15:27am
27 lawhawk  Jun 6, 2014 10:15:28am

re: #21 CriticalDragon1177

There’s enough noise from those nutters to have planted the seeds of conspiracy quackery for generations to come. And you’ve got nutjobs like Alex Jones to thank, and so too Matt Drudge, who doesn’t hesitate a moment to tout Jones at every opportunity. So, his stuff spreads into wider view.

28 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:16:36am

Really fundies, your experiences in 21st century America are nothing like what the Jews of occupied Europe had to go through. Oh your bigoted pride may be hurt by having to treat gay people as human beings. The Jews of occupied Europe who you so happily compare yourself to showing complete ignorance and zero sensitivity to their suffering meanwhile had to deal with each day being a battle for survival. So fuck you and everything you stand for. Signed, someone who actually knows what real evil is.

29 Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2014 10:17:04am

re: #26 Kragar

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Guess they gotta pimp these guys as much as possible, what with their ratings doing an excellent imitation of the sinking of the Titanic.

30 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 6, 2014 10:17:49am

This is where Cosmos put a dent in the wall of denial. A good one, dead center. watch the cracks form as the credibility on the right takes the hit from the POW debacle.

Evidenced by some links,

‘Cosmos’ recap: Climate change is explained in ‘The World Set Free’
LA Times

Fox vs. FOX: Neil deGrasse Tyson Speaks Out On Climate Change
On Cosmos, Tyson Makes Climate Connections That Fox News Mocks

31 Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2014 10:18:38am

re: #22 Kragar

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Wingnuts being wingnuts.

I’m waiting for the EPIC WINGNUT FREAKOUT! on this story, personally. The head ‘splosions should be at least at 6 on the VEI.

Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.

Abbas, Peres, and Francis will be joined by Jewish, Christian and Islamic religious leaders, a statement released by Peres’s spokesperson said, according to the Times of Israel.

Of course, the story wisely points out:

However, expectations for the event should be kept low, according to Rev. Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the custodian of Catholic Church property in the Holy Land.

[No-one should think] “peace will suddenly break out on Monday, or that peace is any closer,” AP reported him as saying.

Nonetheless, a very nice gesture by Pope Francis. And much appreciated in this era of ever-increasing sectarian and interreligious strife.

english.alarabiya.net

Of course, I presume the wingnuts will all scream ZOMG! TEH VATICAN IZ NOW A MOSQUE AND TEH POPE IS A MUZZLIM!!1! or some such BS.

32 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:19:13am

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

Wingnuts being wingnuts.

I’m waiting for the EPIC WINGNUT FREAKOUT! on this story, personally. The head ‘splosions should be at least at 6 on the VEI.

Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican

Of course, the story wisely points out:

Nonetheless, a very nice gesture by Pope Francis. And much appreciated in this era of ever-increasing sectarian and interreligious strife.

english.alarabiya.net

Of course, I presume the wingnuts will all scream ZOMG! TEH VATICAN IZ NOW A MOSQUE AND TEH POPE IS A MUZZLIM!!1! or some such BS.

Pope Francis is a capo.//

33 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:20:01am

re: #22 Kragar

34 b.d.  Jun 6, 2014 10:20:20am

re: #26 Kragar

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The Pintail Testament?

Haven’t those duck f*ckers about run their course?

35 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 6, 2014 10:21:39am

re: #34 b.d.

The Pintail Testament?

Haven’t those duck f*ckers about run their course?

The Book of Mallard telling of the Duckpocalypse and the breaking of the Seven Teals.

36 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:22:04am

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

Wingnuts being wingnuts.

I’m waiting for the EPIC WINGNUT FREAKOUT! on this story, personally. The head ‘splosions should be at least at 6 on the VEI.

Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican

Of course, the story wisely points out:

Nonetheless, a very nice gesture by Pope Francis. And much appreciated in this era of ever-increasing sectarian and interreligious strife.

english.alarabiya.net

Of course, I presume the wingnuts will all scream ZOMG! TEH VATICAN IZ NOW A MOSQUE AND TEH POPE IS A MUZZLIM!!1! or some such BS.

Oh, its going to be an epic melt down, especially with Catholic wingnuts.

37 RadicalModerate  Jun 6, 2014 10:23:22am

re: #22 Kragar

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Given Tony Perkins association with neo-Nazis like David Duke, maybe he thinks this is a good thing?

38 Kragar  Jun 6, 2014 10:23:22am

“Other cities across the state, including Bay St Louis, Greenville, Hattiesburg, Magnolia, Oxford and Starkville, have also passed similar resolutions” to Jackson’s, recognizing that the state law paves the way for legalized wholesale discrimination against LGBT people or anyone else a religious person might object to, such as unwed mothers (Hebrews 13:4) or mixed-race couples (Daniel 2:43).

Jackson businesses formed a pro-equality alliance led by gay entrepreneur Eddie Outlaw. The businesses are displaying blue and white stickers in their front windows that read, “We don’t discriminate. If you’re buying, we’re selling.”

“We have a long and well-documented history of discrimination in this state,” Outlaw told the Associated Press in April. “To think there won’t be any discrimination [under the ‘religious freedom’ law] is laughable.”

39 Bulworth  Jun 6, 2014 10:23:25am

Very confused by cnn.com’s webpage where the main story is about yesterday’s shooting in Seattle while above that is a Breaking News segment about another shooting in Atlanta, today.

40 Dr. Matt  Jun 6, 2014 10:24:24am

Another fine example of a Flori-DUH resident:

Florida man accused of shining laser at police helicopter

The incident occurred Tuesday around 1:28 a.m., when Tampa police Officers Brian Gentry and Mark McCann say their helicopter was hit with a green laser as they were flying over the area of 50th Street and Adamo Drive.

Using night vision devices to detect the source of the laser, the officers led patrol units to Bradley Steffes, 29, who was entering a Dodge Ram pickup truck parked at 5205 Adamo Drive.

Steffes, who was the only individual in the parking lot, consented to have his vehicle search. Police then found a laser pointer, as well as marijuana and a pipe.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 6, 2014 10:24:59am
42 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:25:56am

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

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Already being discussed. Words can’t express how much this disgusts me that Perkins equates the suffering and deaths of millions of Jews to some bigoted asshole who can’t be bothered to treat a gay customer like a human being.

43 leftynyc  Jun 6, 2014 10:26:12am

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

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Although I happen to be Jewish, I don’t think one would have to be to find that comparison incredibly disgusting.

44 Ian G.  Jun 6, 2014 10:26:23am

re: #22 Kragar

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Can we create a time machine and send Tony Perkins to 2nd century Rome so he can actually be the martyr he so desperately wants to be?

45 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:26:43am

re: #38 Kragar

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Good, this whole “My religion gives me the right to discriminate against people” crap is bullshit and should be stopped.

46 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 6, 2014 10:27:47am

re: #43 leftynyc

Although I happen to be Jewish, I don’t think one would have to be to find that comparison incredibly disgusting.

Last week they were comparing it to slavery.

47 Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2014 10:27:52am

re: #36 CriticalDragon1177

Oh, its going to be an epic melt down, especially with Catholic wingnuts.

Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking.

On the other hand, several German Jesuits of close acquaintance will be exceedingly delighted at this. It’s something they - as individuals - have long been urging; genuine interreligious cooperation and dialogue.

48 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:27:54am

re: #43 leftynyc

Although I happen to be Jewish, I don’t think one would have to be to find that comparison incredibly disgusting.

I’m not Jewish myself and it offends the hell out of me. Granted unlike Mr. Perkins, I actually had family persecuted by the Nazis and know that in part because of that and being a student of history how utterly pathetic it is to trivialize the horrors of the Third Reich.

49 Ian G.  Jun 6, 2014 10:28:40am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I’m not Jewish myself and it offends the hell out of me.

Seconded.

50 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:29:16am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

Last week they were comparing it to slavery.

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Gee another asshole who wants to equate real suffering to having a business that deals with the population. Newsflash assholes, if you’re going to have a bakery operating in the public sphere, you can’t refuse someone service because of your own bigotry and you sure as shit can’t compare being told you can’t to some of the worst horrors in history. Just bake the fucking cakes and stop crying like fucking cowards.

51 Shiplord Kirel  Jun 6, 2014 10:30:15am

re: #33 CriticalDragon1177

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Does Tony think the fundy bakers are being forced into the ovens with the cakes?

52 CriticalDragon1177  Jun 6, 2014 10:31:03am

re: #43 leftynyc

Although I happen to be Jewish, I don’t think one would have to be to find that comparison incredibly disgusting.

Only someone who is incredibly homophobic would not.

53 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:31:57am

re: #49 Ian G.

Seconded.

I mean damn. It’s like these people think the Nazis were these cartoon characters led by a guy with a funny looking mustache. The horrors of the Nazis were very real. We’re talking whole generations of families wiped out with the signing of a pen. Communities in Europe where Jews lived and worshiped for generations wiped out. And this asshole wants to compare the fact that a bigoted baker may have to bake a cake for a gay couple about celebrate their love? That’s just offensive as hell and these people have the nerve to claim to be friends of the Jewish people because they claim to “love” Israel which is actually just their twisted religious world view.

54 b.d.  Jun 6, 2014 10:32:12am

re: #35 Feline Fearless Leader

The Book of Mallard telling of the Duckpocalypse and the breaking of the Seven Teals.

Boo!

55 Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2014 10:32:51am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I’m not Jewish myself and it offends the hell out of me. Granted unlike Mr. Perkins, I actually had family persecuted by the Nazis and know that in part because of that and being a student of history how utterly pathetic it is to trivialize the horrors of the Third Reich.

What Perkins said is obscene, quite frankly.

56 Kragar  Jun 6, 2014 10:33:35am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

Last week they were comparing it to slavery.

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Of course if you claim your religion doesn’t allow you to serve bigots or promote hate speech and you deny them services, then you’re waging a war on religion.

57 RadicalModerate  Jun 6, 2014 10:34:14am

re: #37 RadicalModerate

Given Tony Perkins association with neo-Nazis like David Duke, maybe he thinks this is a good thing?

That would be this Tony Perkins. For those of you who don’t know, CoCC is the white nationalist organization Council of Conservative Citizens. He was a member for most of the 1990s, and recruited many from their ranks into the Family Research Council.

Tony Perkins and Friends

58 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:35:38am

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

What Perkins said is obscene, quite frankly.

It makes me ill. Your being in the Czech Republic though reminds me of my visit to Prague and the old Jewish Quarter there. Seeing the old cemetery and knowing how far back many of those graves went and how that community was practically wiped out during the war by people like Heydrich and for Tony Perkins to compare a business having to serve a gay customer to that. I mean it actually makes me almost violently angry. The man has no sense of decency whatsoever and then he has the nerve to act like he’s somehow a friend to the Jewish people? And that’s even without pointing out Perkins using a former klan leader’s mailing list to get supporters.

59 GeneJockey  Jun 6, 2014 10:36:23am

re: #7 CriticalDragon1177

I wonder how these people would explain why so few scientists reject the idea that carbon dioxide causing global warming is a hoax.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Oh yeah that’s right, its a conspiracy or they’re not “real” scientists, because “real” scientists agree with us, just like “real” scientists reject evolution.

As much as I wish climate change wasn’t real, denying it, won’t make it go away.

It’s always about the sweet, sweet grant money.

People train for years, working for a pittance as a graduate student, then a slightly larger pittance as a Post-Doc, just to get an income most professionals would laugh at. And for that they ALL sell their souls and create all their data from whole cloth, carefully matching the results to that found by others, and never does anyone decide they’ve had enough of the lies and expose the whole thing.

And all to destroy Capitalism.

Yep. Makes sense to me.
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60 Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2014 10:38:22am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

It makes me ill. Your being in the Czech Republic though reminds me of my visit to Prague and the old Jewish Quarter there. Seeing the old cemetery and knowing how far back many of those graves went and how that community was practically wiped out during the war by people like Heydrich and for Tony Perkins to compare a business having to serve a gay customer to that. I mean it actually makes me almost violently angry. The man has no sense of decency whatsoever and then he has the nerve to act like he’s somehow a friend to the Jewish people? And that’s even without pointing out Perkins using a former klan leader’s mailing list to get supporters.

Indeed. And the wingnuts are certainly no friends to the Jewish people - for them, the Jewish people are simply fodder for their apocalyptic fantasies. Someone, I forgot who, once said, “For Christian fundamentalists, the Jews are major actors in a four-act play, except they’re supposed to disappear towards the end of the third act.”

61 calochortus  Jun 6, 2014 10:38:25am

re: #36 CriticalDragon1177

Oh, its going to be an epic melt down, especially with Catholic wingnuts.

Catholic wingnuts have already rejected this pope’s legitimacy.

62 Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2014 10:40:37am

re: #61 calochortus

Catholic wingnuts have already rejected this pope’s legitimacy.

Yeah, sadly that’s true.

63 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:41:52am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

Indeed. And the wingnuts are certainly no friends to the Jewish people - for them, the Jewish people are simply fodder for their apocalyptic fantasies. Someone, I forgot who, once said, “For Christian fundamentalists, the Jews are major actors in a four-act play, except they’re supposed to disappear towards the end of the third act.”

It’s well to remember that after Blacks, the people despised most in the Jim Crow South were Jews and also Catholics.

64 HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2014 10:42:17am

re: #61 calochortus

Catholic wingnuts have already rejected this pope’s legitimacy.

I think some of them have rejected every pope since John XXIII. The Hutton Gibson types this is.

65 leftynyc  Jun 6, 2014 10:47:52am

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

They really are beyond being able to feel shame. I remember when the pubs used to be the loyal opposition (my very best friend used to be one) but they’ve gone so far around the bend it’s likely the party will have to be destroyed and replaced with something else.

66 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 6, 2014 10:52:24am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

re: #49 Ian G.

Count me in. Everyone down through the primates hs every reason to be offended.

67 Ace-o-aces  Jun 6, 2014 11:22:36am

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican

english.alarabiya.net

Of course, I presume the wingnuts will all scream ZOMG! TEH VATICAN IZ NOW A MOSQUE AND TEH POPE IS A MUZZLIM!!1! or some such BS.

According to some fundamentalist protestants (like Jack Chick) Islam was actually formed by the Catholic Church to keep Arabs away from Christianity.

68 lostlakehiker  Jun 7, 2014 6:50:47am

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

There’s even a book documenting that. “Doubt is their product”.


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