An Incredibly Beautiful Short Documentary About National Geographic Photographer Cory Richards

“Photography became my voice in this big confusing world”
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Blue Chalk worked with National Geographic Creative photographer and North Face athlete Cory Richards to create a promotional piece to demonstrate the scope of his work and the passion and athleticism that accompanies him in the field. A Tribute to Discomfort brings the viewer through Cory’s stunning work, his unique sense of humor, and his quest to create photographs that relate a common humanity.

Original Still Photography: Cory Richards/National Geographic Creative
Co-Director, Producer: Catherine Yrisarri
Co-Director, DP, Editor: Rob Finch
Assistant Camera: Jamie Francis
Original Music: Elizabeth Lim
Sound Design: Chip Sloan, Digital One
Additional Footage: Keith Ladzinski, 3 Strings Productions

Created by Blue Chalk Media bluechalk.com

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416 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 4:41:22pm

This film looks absolutely spectacular in full screen mode.

2 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 5:16:34pm

Yes everybody, watch this in HD Full Screen. Stunning photography!

Life is fun.

3 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 5:21:42pm

Police said they found a checklist at Marx’s home in Cumming, Georgia, that matched the items inside the rented silver Nissan SUV used in Friday’s mid-morning attack. Marx had a number of bags and buckets holding homemade and commercial explosive devices that could be clipped to hostages; a gas mask; two handguns; zip ties and two bulletproof vests, police said. They said Marx, 48, wore one of the vests and clipped a hand grenade and wire to himself as a booby trap.

“All the items were checked off,” Forsyth County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Doug Rainwater said. “So this was a very deliberate planned assault on the Forsyth County courthouse.”

4 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 5:26:55pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

One of the essential elements of his plan went wrong - he rented a Nissan Armada because he thought he’d be able to drive it right up the steps and into the building. Oops, sorry, no, and now you’ve been shot about 200 times.

He was in some kind of sovereign citizen Rambo fantasy world. Good thing he didn’t get into that building.

5 Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2014 5:27:44pm

Marx, huh? Obviously another leftist just like the Right always says.

6 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 5:30:08pm

Video of this dangerous idiot getting shot a whole lot.

Youtube Video

7 psddluva4evah  Jun 7, 2014 5:32:03pm

ICYMI: Michelle Obama Emotional Speech at Maya Angelou Memorial

Youtube Video

8 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 5:32:33pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Video of this dangerous idiot getting shot a whole lot.

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They use a snow shovel to clean up the mess?

9 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 5:34:22pm

re: #8 Gus

They use a snow shovel to clean up the mess?

He was wearing two bullet proof vests. Probably thought he was like Iron Man. Oops, sorry, no, not with hundreds of high-powered rounds coming at you, you’re not Iron Man. You’re just stupid, and dead.

10 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 5:39:37pm

re: #7 psddluva4evah

ICYMI: Michelle Obama Emotional Speech at Maya Angelou Memorial

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Video

A really great speech. Heartfelt.

11 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 5:40:14pm

Not much new here but still a decent article
Bergdahl Was In Unit Known For Its Troubles

….some of his peers also said that Sergeant Bergdahl seemed enthusiastic about fighting, particularly after the platoon was ambushed several weeks before his disappearance.

“He’d complain about not being able to go on the offensive, and being attacked and not being able to return fire,” said Gerald Sutton, …

Mr. Sutton said he had struggled to square the popular portrayal of Sergeant Bergdahl as brooding and disenchanted with the soldier he knew. “He wanted to take the fight to the enemy and do the mission of the infantry,” he said, adding, “He was a good soldier, and whenever he was told to do something, he would do it.”
…
Just how and why Sergeant Bergdahl disappeared remains a mystery to his fellow soldiers.

They say they do not remember his leaving behind any note or explanation. They said they were unaware that he had previously wandered off the base, as the internal Army review reported.

And they vehemently disputed reports that implied he had seen a vehicle from his unit run over an Afghan child, which Sergeant Bergdahl had apparently told his parents in an email before his disappearance. That never happened, his fellow soldiers said.

12 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 5:40:50pm

This poisonous “sovereign citizen” way of thinking might have a fighting chance of becoming a plank in the Texas GOP. To wit:

“We support the establishment and maintenance of a volunteer Constitutional State Militia with assistance from County Sheriffs.”

13 wrenchwench  Jun 7, 2014 5:44:03pm

Later, lizards.

14 Skip Intro  Jun 7, 2014 5:46:40pm

Intel’s new processor family, certain to be in the nightmares of the Bryan Fischers of the country.

15 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 5:47:37pm

Bergdahl tells of ordeal in cage after escape attempt

From the initial briefings given to senior military and civilian officials in the past week, Bergdahl, 28, in some ways seems healthier than expected. He suffers from skin and gum disorders typical of poor hygiene and exposure, but otherwise is physically sound, one official said.

16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 5:56:26pm

An older tweet that I just saw…I like it.

17 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2014 5:58:15pm

Police don’t mess around anymore do they? Start shooting and its coming back heavy.

Add in smart phone videos and we get to see it all go down almost instantly. Incredible when you think about it.

18 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 5:59:12pm

My goddamn Facebook blew up today with ZOMG CHARLES MANSON PAROLED!!!!!!111T1!Y, a story pushed by one of these fake-ass Onion sites. Lots of folks out there, even in my circles, that completely lack critical thinking skills, not to mention Google skills.

19 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 6:01:28pm

re: #7 psddluva4evah

Beautiful. And that’s just dust in my eyes. Really.

20 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:02:11pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

These sites are parasites. They’re preying on people’s ignorance and confirmation bias.

This is not humor - it’s more like spam.

21 ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2014 6:02:43pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

An older tweet that I just saw…I like it.

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Otters are so cool. It’s like they all have very distinct personalities. The one in her arms is like…ahhh!

22 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:08:18pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

These sites are parasites. They’re preying on people’s ignorance and confirmation bias.

This is not humor - it’s more like spam.

I’m going to page that New Republic article.

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:08:49pm

Fun hallucinogenic times in the 13th century!
Possibly what Maureen Dowd might have seen during her brownie episode:

24 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:08:58pm

Bergdahl family getting threats. FBI. According to CNN (cough).

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:09:40pm

re: #24 Gus

Bergdahl family getting threats. FBI. According to CNN (cough).

The armchair crowd loves doing those threats.

26 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2014 6:12:21pm

re: #24 Gus

Bergdahl family getting threats. FBI. According to CNN (cough).

CNN leads the story with photo(s) of the soldiers allegedly killed hunting him, and gives more inches to the angry mother of one of them.

27 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:13:48pm
28 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:14:52pm

re: #24 Gus

Bergdahl family getting threats. FBI. According to CNN (cough).

I saw that too sad but hopefully not serious. In brighter news it seems he’s in good health (see #15)

29 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:18:00pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I saw that too sad but hopefully not serious. In brighter news it seems he’s in good health (see #15)

Yep, read it, and Tweeted.

30 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:19:45pm

Dey tuk er freedoms!

31 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 6:19:52pm
32 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 6:21:12pm

Scrolling through my on demand I found Rescue Me. Dog I loved that show. My girlfriend & I went to the Rescue Me Comedy Tour in SD. We took photos wearing fireman gear in the booth & I rushed the stage at the end and shook Denis Leary’s hand!

The opening credits visual plus the song by the Von Bondies rocks.

Youtube Video

33 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:21:15pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I saw that too sad but hopefully not serious. In brighter news it seems he’s in good health (see #15)

Sure, good health. Except for the skin and gum disorders, and the being kept in a metal cage for weeks at a time thing, great health.

34 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2014 6:21:33pm

re: #24 Gus

Bergdahl family getting threats. FBI. According to CNN (cough).

Don’t knock CNN much, since that was a really good job they did in cracking up the corruption and failures to provide care at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

35 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 6:22:27pm

re: #24 Gus

Bergdahl family getting threats. FBI. According to CNN (cough).

They are going to backtrack baby.

36 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:22:56pm

Only a total wimp would whine about being kept in a metal cage in darkness for weeks at a time. Prosecute him.

37 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:23:29pm
38 klys  Jun 7, 2014 6:25:02pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

Don’t knock CNN much, since that was a really good job they did in cracking up the corruption and failures to provide care at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

They only found that because they’re looking everywhere for the plane.

39 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2014 6:25:48pm

re: #37 Gus

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I’m not sure…. Are we praising or condemning Fox news in this tweet? I could read that one either way…

RBS

40 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2014 6:25:56pm

re: #31 jaunte

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Amazing what flowing water can do in 6,000 years.

41 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:25:58pm

As details emerge about Bergdahl’s captivity, we’re going to hear from a lot of right wingers saying it was no big deal. Because they need to picture him as a craven traitor.

42 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:27:04pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Amazing what flowing water can do in 6,000 years.

Hey now! Paul Broun (R-Clueless) says it’s 9000 years!

/

43 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2014 6:27:32pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Hey now! Paul Broun (R-Clueless) says it’s 9000 years!

/

Burn him !!1!

44 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:27:54pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Sure, good health. Except for the skin and gum disorders, and the being kept in a metal cage for weeks at a time thing, great health.

It could be much worse. His mental health is going to take longer to recover. It’s the kind of thing some people never recover from.

45 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:30:38pm

LGF names. I’ll tell ya what! Stanley Sea, from what I gather, is a gal. And Decatur Deb - says it straight up - is a guy.

For the record, I am a guy.

46 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:32:47pm
47 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:33:00pm
48 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 7, 2014 6:34:01pm

Send some positive energy my way, I’m doing my first open-water checkout scuba dive tomorrow. Going from a warm pool, 10 foot deep with unlimited visibility to a spring fed quarry, 60 degree water and maybe 15 foot of visibility. I’ll also be changing from diving in swimtrunks to 5mm of neoprene covering me from head to toe. All in all, a pretty big change from what I had done.

I’m confident that I’ll do well, I have the basic skills pretty well burned in, shined on all the pool work, but I’m still a bit apprehensive about it. Not scared, but a healthy respect for what I’m doing. I also know that Marcos (my instructor) wouldn’t have me do it if he wasn’t sure that I was ready.

I’ll let you know how it went tomorrow. No pics, I’ve made a conscious decision to NOT take a camera underwater until I get at least 25 dives under my belt before I want to introduce a high-concentration task into the mix.

Talk at ya later…

RBS

49 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 6:34:17pm

re: #46 Gus

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It is the saddest, most craven thing. America.

50 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:34:35pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

LGF names. I’ll tell ya what! Stanley Sea, from what I gather, is a gal. And Decatur Deb - says it straight up - is a guy.

For the record, I am a guy.

I’m just an old fahrt.

51 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:35:22pm

Ah, I see my #15 is getting downdings. I assume Bergdahl’s good health is not welcome news because wingnuts or something. Maybe just potato.

52 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:35:33pm

re: #48 RealityBasedSteve

Send some positive energy my way, I’m doing my first open-water checkout scuba dive tomorrow. Going from a warm pool, 10 foot deep with unlimited visibility to a spring fed quarry, 60 degree water and maybe 15 foot of visibility. I’ll also be changing from diving in swimtrunks to 5mm of neoprene covering me from head to toe. All in all, a pretty big change from what I had done.

I’m confident that I’ll do well, I have the basic skills pretty well burned in, shined on all the pool work, but I’m still a bit apprehensive about it. Not scared, but a healthy respect for what I’m doing. I also know that Marcos (my instructor) wouldn’t have me do it if he wasn’t sure that I was ready.

I’ll let you know how it went tomorrow. No pics, I’ve made a conscious decision to NOT take a camera underwater until I get at least 25 dives under my belt before I want to introduce a high-concentration task into the mix.

Talk at ya later…

RBS

Keep Calm and Enjoy.

53 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2014 6:35:58pm

re: #48 RealityBasedSteve

Rapture

Youtube Video

54 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:37:22pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m just an old fahrt.

I wanna be an old fahrt someday! Now? I’m in my early 30s, so I’m not young, but I’m not old? Does that work?

55 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 6:37:33pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Rapture!

Youtube Video

56 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2014 6:37:57pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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It’s tabloid journalism at its finest, which the GOP has exploited time and time again. The media needed a big, explosive angle to this whole prisoner swap, more than just the dry politics of arguing over a law nobody knew about prior to last week and whose constitutionality is arguable.

In comes the GOP with a major scoop: POW that President traded 5 terrorists for is actually a deserter, possibly even a traitor to his country. And they back this up with hand-picked soldiers from the POW’s old unit, men who are ready to swear on-camera that the guy not only deserted his country in time of war, he got other men killed by helping the enemy. Smelling the possibilities in this, of destroying a President by turning a prisoner swap into a major political snafu, the media pounces and gives the spurious rumors wall-to-wall coverage. And, never one to rest on their laurels, they quickly grab up whatever rumors and speculation they can and report it as the truth, though always with the “if true” caveat to cover their asses later.

If all this seems familiar, it’s the same three act play they go through with every major “scoop.” And now we’re into the third act: The assigning of blame. More specifically, blaming everybody but themselves for their actions.

57 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:38:44pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

I wanna be an old fahrt someday! Now? I’m in my early 30s, so I’m not young, but I’m not old? Does that work?

Imma gonna be 63 this month.
If I’d known I’d have lived this long I would have taken better care of myself.
Word from the older & wiser to you young whippersnapper!

58 psddluva4evah  Jun 7, 2014 6:39:39pm

re: #24 Gus

this bit in the article really is just…ugh

…All the while, a fallen soldier’s mother and a former member of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s unit pressed assertions Saturday that troops were killed while searching for him in Afghanistan. Officials say that there is no such evidence.
“Yes, men were injured and killed in the search for him,” former Sgt. Matt Vierkant, a member of Bergdahl’s platoon, told CNN. “The mission was to find Bergdahl.”
Pentagon and Army officials have looked at such claims, and “right now there is no evidence to back that up,” a U.S. official told CNN on Thursday…

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:40:13pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

I wanna be an old fahrt someday! Now? I’m in my early 30s, so I’m not young, but I’m not old? Does that work?

oh, serious advice here. Take care of your teeth.
Seriously.

60 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 6:40:57pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Ah, I see my #15 is getting downdings. I assume Bergdahl’s good health is not welcome news because wingnuts or something. Maybe just potato.

Like you read/believe anything you post? Bullshitter looking for attention.

61 Cheechako  Jun 7, 2014 6:40:59pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

I wanna be an old fahrt someday! Now? I’m in my early 30s, so I’m not young, but I’m not old? Does that work?

It just takes time….lots of time

62 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 6:41:00pm

Officials would not disclose if Sergeant Bergdahl has made any special requests. One thing, however, that does rub him wrong is when hospital staff call him “sergeant,” the result of two automatic promotions while he was in captivity.

“He says, ‘Don’t call me that,’ ” said one American official. ” ‘I didn’t go before the boards. I didn’t earn it.’ “

63 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:43:16pm

re: #62 Lidane

Officials would not disclose if Sergeant Bergdahl has made any special requests. One thing, however, that does rub him wrong is when hospital staff call him “sergeant,” the result of two automatic promotions while he was in captivity.

“He says, ‘Don’t call me that,’ ” said one American official. ” ‘I didn’t go before the boards. I didn’t earn it.’ “

Wow. That really is not sounding much like an anti-American deserter.

64 BongCrodny  Jun 7, 2014 6:43:27pm

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Ah, I see my #15 is getting downdings. I assume Bergdahl’s good health is not welcome news because wingnuts or something. Maybe just potato.

I suspect your downdings have absolutely nothing to do with Bergdahl’s physical condition.

65 urbanmeemaw  Jun 7, 2014 6:44:52pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

They’re transferring their rage about Obama. It’s Full Metal ODS.

66 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2014 6:46:01pm

re: #38 klys

They only found that because they’re looking everywhere for the plane.

No, to be fair they broke the VA story by working it hard over a period of several months. They beclowned themselves over the plane, but they then redeemed themselves with some real reporting.

67 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:46:10pm

re: #62 Lidane

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The truth is coming out, bit by bit. And this whole smear campaign is blowing up in the RWNJs faces.

Popcorn Time!

68 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:46:36pm

BTW. #15 is the same story as #62.

69 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:47:31pm

re: #64 BongCrodny

I suspect your downdings have absolutely nothing to do with Bergdahl’s physical condition.

Yeah, same article just reposted now getting upvotes. Just potato.

70 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:47:53pm

re: #68 Gus

BTW. #15 is the same story as #62.

Shhhh!

71 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:48:07pm

lol

72 urbanmeemaw  Jun 7, 2014 6:48:43pm

re: #48 RealityBasedSteve

Good luck! My son in law and grandson scuba dive and love it. My SIL swam with a 20 foot hammerhead shark in Key Largo.

73 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:49:52pm
74 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:50:16pm

re: #68 Gus

BTW. #15 is the same story as #62.

A few weeks ago I posted an article and it got downdinged. An hour later the same person who downdinged posted the exact same article. Ya gotta laugh.

75 urbanmeemaw  Jun 7, 2014 6:51:13pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Congrats and early Happy Birthday! I turn 65 in October (Yikes)!

76 A Mom Anon  Jun 7, 2014 6:51:30pm

re: #49 Stanley Sea

And every damned one of these fucking media outlets who’ve been pushing the whole traitorousmuslimdefector angle is to blame too.

77 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:54:20pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

A few weeks ago I posted an article and it got downdinged. An hour later the same person who downdinged posted the exact same article. Ya gotta laugh.

It’s kind of obvious why that happens, though, isn’t it?

78 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 6:54:46pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

The truth is coming out, bit by bit. And this whole smear campaign is blowing up in the RWNJs faces.

Popcorn Time!

Watching the same GOP assholes who begged and pleaded for POTUS to rescue Bergdahl turn on a dime and attack Obama for rescuing him has been instructive. So has watching the same RWNJs who fawned over Bergdahl for years now turn around and call him a traitor and a deserter that deserved to die in captivity.

At this point, the American right has shown its total moral bankruptcy and ignorance. Between the Bergdahl attacks and the total horseshit that state parties like the Texas GOP offer up as principles they honestly don’t have any redeeming qualities anymore. Voting Republican is basically admitting that you care more about your bank statements than anything or anyone else.

79 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 6:55:56pm
80 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 7, 2014 6:56:17pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

It could be much worse. His mental health is going to take longer to recover. It’s the kind of thing some people never recover from.

It’ll take him even longer to recover because of the horrible irresponsibleness of people spreading vicious rumors about him. Y’know, like you were doing.

One of the key factors in a veteran’s rehabilitation is their reception at home. For most soldiers, that just means their family and friends and coworkers. He ain’t so lucky. He’s being used by the media as something to make ratings off of, the GOP as something they can whip up anti-Muslim sentiment about, fund-raise off, and freak the US about, and you in order to play the facile contrarian and second-guess the PR presentation of events by Obama as if they could have prevented the right wing from this gibbering monstrosity.

81 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 6:56:29pm

Pretty obvious to me, anyway.

82 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 6:57:28pm

re: #69 Killgore Trout

Yeah, same article just reposted now getting upvotes. Just potato.

You are the fox news of LGF, then you post something positive looking for redemption.

83 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 6:57:32pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

It’s kind of obvious why that happens, though, isn’t it?

Sure is.

84 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:58:16pm

re: #78 Lidane

Voting Republican is basically admitting that you care more about your bank statements than anything or anyone else.

So sad. So true.

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2014 6:58:19pm

re: #75 urbanmeemaw

Congrats and early Happy Birthday! I turn 65 in October (Yikes)!

And we lived to tell the many tall tales… :D

86 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 6:58:48pm

re: #73 Gus

Happy Birthday Prince!

87 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2014 6:59:48pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

It’s kind of obvious why that happens, though, isn’t it?

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on its messenger.

88 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 7:01:29pm
89 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 7:01:54pm

I feed my cats both wet & dry cat food, but they’re especially fond of the wet food. Whenever I pull on the tab to pop open a can of it, they come running in anticipation of being fed.

Sometimes, I have no intention of feeding them and am simply opening a can of boiled poatoes or whatever for myself. Silly cats—they’re so conditioned to the sound that they can’t tell the difference and come running! Ya gotta laugh.

//

90 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 7:03:20pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on its messenger.

neg neg neg neg neg neg neg neg neg (oooh I’ll sneak in a positive) neg neg neg neg neg neg neg neg.

Hey! You people are picking on me!!!!

Ego, that’s what we are dealing with.

91 psddluva4evah  Jun 7, 2014 7:03:45pm

re: #73 Gus

thanks for this one Gus.

Is Prince already in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame? Cause if not…

Now I’m really mad I can’t make it to Essence Music Festival this year. Price is the first night headliner

92 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 7:04:10pm

re: #89 CuriousLurker

Every time I make anything with tuna the cats go nuts, but only one of them is actually interested in the tuna. It’s hilarious. The older boy cat will cry like he’s been starved for weeks until I drain the water from the can into a bowl for him to drink. but the baby girl cat turns her nose up at all of it.

93 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 7:04:35pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on its messenger.

It’s human nature. The essence of an idea doesn’t change but people perceive the idea differently depending on circumstances. I think Plato had some stuff to say about that.

94 Decatur Deb  Jun 7, 2014 7:05:27pm

re: #91 psddluva4evah

thanks for this one Gus.

Is Prince already in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame? Cause if not…

Now I’m really mad I can’t make it to Essence Music Festival this year. Price is the first night headliner

Raspberry Beret has to be in the Earworm Hall of Fame.

95 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 7:06:54pm

re: #92 Lidane

Every time I make anything with tuna the cats go nuts, but only one of them is actually interested in the tuna. It’s hilarious. The older boy cat will cry like he’s been starved for weeks until I drain the water from the can into a bowl for him to drink. but the baby girl cat turns her nose up at all of it.

Both of mine love tuna, but the younger one is really picky about which foods she’ll eat, both wet & dry. She won’t touch people food, not even milk (well okay, milk once in a great while).

96 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:09:55pm

twistedsifter.com

97 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 7:09:56pm

re: #91 psddluva4evah

thanks for this one Gus.

Is Prince already in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame? Cause if not…

Now I’m really mad I can’t make it to Essence Music Festival this year. Price is the first night headliner

Prince is a very talented musician. Underrated as guitarist IMO.

98 goddamnedfrank  Jun 7, 2014 7:11:22pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

It’s human nature. The essence of an idea doesn’t change but people perceive the idea differently depending on circumstances. I think Plato had some stuff to say about that.

Did Plato spend several years acting like an asshole and then expect to be taken seriously?

99 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:11:53pm

100 Eventual Carrion  Jun 7, 2014 7:11:55pm

re: #97 Gus

Prince is a very talented musician. Underrated as guitarist IMO.

I have always liked his stuff. Catchy, different.

101 Varek Raith  Jun 7, 2014 7:12:04pm

So tempted to war dec these guys. XD

Good evening.

102 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 7:13:30pm

re: #97 Gus

Prince is a very talented musician. Underrated as guitarist IMO.

Prince is the MAN! Seen him live only once, a fantastic spectacle in the Pepsi Center with a mini solo acoustic set. Dude can PLAY, dude can PUT ON A SHOW, Prince concerts are very cool!

103 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:13:47pm

104 blueraven  Jun 7, 2014 7:14:33pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

It’s human nature. The essence of an idea doesn’t change but people perceive the idea differently depending on circumstances. I think Plato had some stuff to say about that.

Oh please, keep Plato out of this. It has nothing to do with the message in your # 15. People are down dinging you because up until maybe late yesterday, everything you posted about Bergdahl was negative and you were defending them as being most likely true.

If you have changed your mind…say so!

105 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 7:14:50pm

Here’s Prince playing circles around everybody!

Youtube Video

106 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:15:27pm

107 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 7:15:41pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on its messenger.

Yeah, if there’s a guy that walks by some dog’s yard every day and teases it by rattling the fence, poking a stick at it, etc. then the dog probably isn’t gonna be inclined to greet that particular guy’s arrival with happiness or trust. As a matter of fact, it might start bristling & growling the minute it catches wind of him.

108 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 7, 2014 7:18:31pm

re: #92 Lidane

Every time I make anything with tuna the cats go nuts, but only one of them is actually interested in the tuna. It’s hilarious. The older boy cat will cry like he’s been starved for weeks until I drain the water from the can into a bowl for him to drink. but the baby girl cat turns her nose up at all of it.

Baby girl is obviously concerned about over-fishing, and is boycotting tuna. Either that, or she’s holding out for albacore.

109 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:19:06pm

The Cat Strikes Back

Youtube Video

110 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:20:19pm

111 TedStriker  Jun 7, 2014 7:22:29pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

Don’t knock CNN much, since that was a really good job they did in cracking up the corruption and failures to provide care at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

A blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

112 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 7:23:09pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

Here’s Prince playing circles around everybody!

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Video

Wow, have never seen that. Prince was fantastic as Prince is. Appears George’s son was playing too. And hell yeah Stevie Winwood et al.

thanks!

113 Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2014 7:23:46pm

re: #107 CuriousLurker

Yeah, if there’s a guy that walks by some dog’s yard every day and teases it by rattling the fence, poking a stick at it, etc. then the dog probably isn’t gonna be inclined to greet that particular guy’s arrival with happiness or trust. As a matter of fact, it might start bristling & growling the minute it catches wind of him.

favorited.

114 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2014 7:24:26pm

re: #92 Lidane

Every time I make anything with tuna the cats go nuts, but only one of them is actually interested in the tuna. It’s hilarious. The older boy cat will cry like he’s been starved for weeks until I drain the water from the can into a bowl for him to drink. but the baby girl cat turns her nose up at all of it.

The middle child is like, that if you grab any kinda can, he’s making a fuss at your feet. And he’s always the first to the bowl when I drain the juice from a can of tuna for his enjoyment. Our eldest is also the smallest and she will sometimes try to butt in, but usually just waits until he’s had his fill and then helps herself. And always finishes with the “burying the uneaten portion for later” dance by scratching at the floor for a few seconds before walking away.

115 psddluva4evah  Jun 7, 2014 7:26:36pm

re: #97 Gus

For my money, Purple Rain has to be one of THE BEST movies about “music and muscians” ever. And the Soundtrack…..woo, don’t get me started! The title track alone…classic

116 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 7:28:54pm

Hey, our thinkfluence voxsplainer friends just put out a snarky thing!

117 Varek Raith  Jun 7, 2014 7:31:08pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

After days of you posting the crap from his detractors?
Hmmm…

118 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 7, 2014 7:31:19pm

Hello Lizardim, Happy Saturday Night!

Long hard 10 hour on our feet workday today so now it’s antipasta, pizza and cocktails.

119 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 7:32:20pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

The middle child is like, that if you grab any kinda can, he’s making a fuss at your feet. And he’s always the first to the bowl when I drain the juice from a can of tuna for his enjoyment. Our eldest is also the smallest and she will sometimes try to butt in, but usually just waits until he’s had his fill and then helps herself. And always finishes with the “burying the uneaten portion for later” dance by scratching at the floor for a few seconds before walking away.

LOL, my younger cat is like yours, she has to be first. I give them two separate plates and the younger one wants to try to eat both—she’ll go back & forth between the plates shoving the older one out of the way—never mind that they’ve been served the exact same food from the same can, hers might taste better. The younger one usually eats less though, so the older one will often just move off to the side an wait for her to have her fill.

120 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 7, 2014 7:32:33pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Wow. That really is not sounding much like an anti-American deserter.

Getting those three stripes means a lot to most soldiers. I know they did to me.

121 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 7, 2014 7:34:38pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

Did Plato spend several years acting like an asshole and then expect to be taken seriously?

Plato famously serious-posted about Muslims for years and years and then asked “What’s a sufi?”

122 PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2014 7:34:58pm

Ugggh. I just looked at the gold box deals on amazon. The bonus deal is the complete set of Magnum PI. I really liked that series. I have to repeat the mantra “Resistance is not futile.”

123 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:38:50pm

re: #122 PhillyPretzel

Ugggh. I just looked at the gold box deals on amazon. The bonus deal is the complete set of Magnum PI. I really liked that series. I have to repeat the mantra “Resistance is not futile.”

I hope you’ll click through from here when you eventually give in to the temptation!

124 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 7:42:14pm

125 blueraven  Jun 7, 2014 7:42:32pm

Flipping through channels I caught a few minutes of Huckabee right at the end. He was laughing about what Putin said about Hillary. Something about, Best not to argue with women and Hillary wasn’t very eloquent anyway, or some such crap.

Then Huckabee said he had secret video of a private meeting between Putin and Hillary

This is the clip he showed…

Youtube Video

Putin worship, misogyny and violence against women all in one unfunny segment.

he and the “live audience” thought it was HILARIOUS
Who really thinks this man is a Christian?

127 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 7:45:33pm
128 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2014 7:58:32pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Yegods, is that what we’ve come to as a nation? Attacking the family of a POW because of shit we heard in the media? “Support the troops,” my ass.

129 PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2014 8:00:45pm

::: grumbling ::: I have a *&^) superdrive on my MacBook Pro and I ordered the set. Gee I have to find another group of people who will talk me out of spending money. /half kidding

130 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:01:22pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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And Fox News should take a responsibility for a lot of those threats given that they’ve done all they can do to paint Bowe Bergdahl as a real life Nick Brody.

131 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:02:38pm

re: #125 blueraven

Flipping through channels I caught a few minutes of Huckabee right at the end. He was laughing about what Putin said about Hillary. Something about, Best not to argue with women and Hillary wasn’t very eloquent anyway, or some such crap.

Then Huckabee said he had secret video of a private meeting between Putin and Hillary

This is the clip he showed…

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Video

Putin worship, misogyny and violence against women all in one unfunny segment.

he and the “live audience” thought it was HILARIOUS
Who really thinks this man is a Christian?

Huckabee’s a disgusting guy. I used to think he was one of their more decent people but he’s proven himself time and time after again to be an evil prick.

132 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 8:02:39pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

And Fox News should take a responsibility for a lot of those threats given that they’ve done all they can do to paint Bowe Bergdahl as a real life Nick Brody.

‘Deeply serious’ CNN segment likens Bergdahl to ‘Homeland’ TV terrorist Nick Brody

133 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:03:17pm

re: #132 Gus

‘Deeply serious’ CNN segment likens Bergdahl to ‘Homeland’ TV terrorist Nick Brody

Fuck them too.

134 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:04:33pm

Really the media in this country is a joke. It’s all about how can we sensationalize a story as much as possible and not give two shits if people get hurt or killed because of that.

136 Targetpractice  Jun 7, 2014 8:05:34pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

Really the media in this country is a joke. It’s all about how can we sensationalize a story as much as possible and not give two shits if people get hurt or killed because of that.

That’s because the media is this country is a business, not a service. You want news, go to the BBC. Nine times outta ten, if it’s an international news story, they’ve probably got more factual coverage than any of the domestic stations in the States.

137 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 8:05:42pm

re: #132 Gus

“Their heads were both shaved so you immediately think, ‘Oh, OK, they must be the same person,’” CNN host Sally Kohn observed.

She seems smart.

138 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:06:48pm

re: #137 jaunte

She seems smart.

“We’re receiving reports that both Nicholas Brody and Bowe Bergdahl needed oxygen to breath. And that this is something while he was still alive that Osama Bin Laden used to survive as well.”

139 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 8:07:02pm

Whenever I see someone with a shaved head, I always assume it’s the same person as every other person with a shaved head.

Doesn’t everyone think this way?

140 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 8:07:30pm

OMG the NBA is full of terrorists!

141 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:08:00pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

That’s because the media is this country is a business, not a service. You want news, go to the BBC. Nine times outta ten, if it’s an international news story, they’ve probably got more factual coverage than any of the domestic stations in the States.

Yep.

142 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:08:32pm

re: #140 jaunte

OMG the NBA is full of terrorists!

I guess it’s not a good time to mention that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was a Muslim with a shaved head.

143 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 8:09:38pm

Spurs fan with shaved head

144 PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2014 8:10:48pm

Am I the only one who remembers Telly Savalas and Yul Brenner and their “chrome domes?”

145 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 8:11:44pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Whenever I see someone with a shaved head, I always assume it’s the same person as every other person with a shaved head.

Doesn’t everyone think this way?

Bowe Bergdahl: Kojak?

146 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:12:07pm

So I thought you were a closet Muslim if you were a white guy with a long beard like Bowe’s father. Now CNN says you’re a secret Muslim if you shave your head like Nicholas Brody? What are you if you do both? A double secret Muslim?

147 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 8:12:25pm
148 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 8:17:14pm

Sometimes I wonder, wow, how did this one guy with a shaved head end up all over the place like this? I mean, it’s weird.

149 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 7, 2014 8:18:33pm

re: #145 Gus

Bowe Bergdahl: Kojak?

Bowe Bergdahl; King of Siam?

Youtube Video

150 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 8:19:08pm

LOLOLOLOL

151 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:19:39pm

re: #149 The Ghost of a Flea

Bowe Bergdahl; King of Siam?

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Video

He was also the pharaoh of Egypt that wouldn’t free Charlton Heston and thus part of the Muslim Brotherhood!

152 BeenHereAwhile  Jun 7, 2014 8:20:09pm

re: #48 RealityBasedSteve

Send some positive energy my way, I’m doing my first open-water checkout scuba dive tomorrow. Going from a warm pool, 10 foot deep with unlimited visibility to a spring fed quarry, 60 degree water and maybe 15 foot of visibility. I’ll also be changing from diving in swimtrunks to 5mm of neoprene covering me from head to toe. All in all, a pretty big change from what I had done.

I’m confident that I’ll do well, I have the basic skills pretty well burned in, shined on all the pool work, but I’m still a bit apprehensive about it. Not scared, but a healthy respect for what I’m doing. I also know that Marcos (my instructor) wouldn’t have me do it if he wasn’t sure that I was ready.

I’ll let you know how it went tomorrow. No pics, I’ve made a conscious decision to NOT take a camera underwater until I get at least 25 dives under my belt before I want to introduce a high-concentration task into the mix.

Talk at ya later…

RBS

Breathe easy.

153 PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2014 8:20:23pm

re: #149 The Ghost of a Flea

Upding. That is because I saw Yul Brenner at the Academy of Music quite a few years ago in his “king” role. It was a wonderful show.

154 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 8:21:33pm

re: #150 CuriousLurker

Is that Nick Brody lurking in the water?

155 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2014 8:21:49pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

It’s kind of obvious why that happens, though, isn’t it?

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on its messenger.

156 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 8:23:52pm

Bowe Bergdahl; Daddy Warbucks?

No, wait!

Bowe Bergdahl; Nosferatu?

157 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 7, 2014 8:25:02pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on its messenger.

Not just that, though. Like, a lot of the stories drudge links to about black people attacking white people are true. But he links to those in a disproportionate way, and his slant is clear. Even if a story on Drudge happens to be ‘true’, it’s still being presented in the general assholish context.

Killgore’s been being as bad a gossip-monger as anyone in the press with negative stories, and now is astonished to find that acting that way has had negative effects on the way people see him.

158 Ed E. Lishus  Jun 7, 2014 8:25:35pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

What’s the message Dark_Falcon? I think that’s an important question.

159 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:25:41pm

re: #156 CuriousLurker

Bowe Bergdahl; Daddy Warbucks?

No, wait!

Bowe Bergdahl; Nosferatu?

Bowe Bergdahl: Homer Simpson?

160 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 7, 2014 8:26:21pm

re: #156 CuriousLurker

Bowe Bergdahl: Vin Diesel.

161 blueraven  Jun 7, 2014 8:26:25pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, it speaks to a truth: People will value the same message differently depending on the sincerity, honesty and past attitudes of its messenger.

FTFY

162 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:27:14pm

It’s obvious that Bowe Bergdahl is Mr. Potter.

163 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 7, 2014 8:27:35pm

Didn’t David Harewood also have a shaved head on Homeland?

164 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 8:27:51pm

re: #156 CuriousLurker

Bowe Bergdahl; Nosferatu?

165 PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2014 8:28:58pm

re: #164 jaunte

That looks a little like Yoda.

166 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 8:31:08pm

You know who else has a shaved head?

Spoiler

US Army Chief of Staff - General Odierno

167 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:31:39pm

re: #166 Gus

You know who else has a shaved head?

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Jihadi!

168 BeenHereAwhile  Jun 7, 2014 8:32:23pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

I wanna be an old fahrt someday! Now? I’m in my early 30s, so I’m not young, but I’m not old? Does that work?

“You don’t get to be old being no fool.
Lotta young wise men, they dead motherfuckers, ain’t they.”
-Richard Pryor

169 PhillyPretzel  Jun 7, 2014 8:32:25pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Ghandi.

170 Charles Johnson  Jun 7, 2014 8:32:29pm

re: #166 Gus

You know who else has a shaved head?

BEES

171 jaunte  Jun 7, 2014 8:32:55pm

re: #166 Gus

Look out Mr. President!

172 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:34:00pm

re: #171 jaunte

Look out Mr. President!

Now, now, he’s a fine patriot. Not like that bum that was captured wearing a U.S Army uniform by the Taliban in Afghanistan.

173 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:34:47pm

Humor is the only thing that keeps me from getting really upset at this whole story. You just hate hearing that Bergdahl’s family are receiving threats. What the hell is wrong with some of our fellow Americans?

174 GeneJockey  Jun 7, 2014 8:37:14pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Humor is the only thing that keeps me from getting really upset at this whole story. You just hate hearing that Bergdahl’s family are receiving threats. What the hell is wrong with some of our fellow Americans?

Time didn’t stop in 1955. They’ve never recovered from that.

175 teleskiguy  Jun 7, 2014 8:37:39pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

BEES

BEES! FUCKING BEES!

Bee Beard

Oh, how does one make the big and small fonts in comments?

176 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:37:59pm

re: #174 GeneJockey

Time didn’t stop in 1955. They’ve never recovered from that.

Now are we talking 1955 BC or 1955 AD?

177 HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2014 8:38:10pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

BEES! FUCKING BEES!

Bee Beard

Oh, how does one make the big and small fonts in comments?

It’s a Beeeeeeehad.

178 GeneJockey  Jun 7, 2014 8:39:10pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

BEES! FUCKING BEES!

Bee Beard

Oh, how does one make the big and small fonts in comments?

Looks like a Muslim.
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179 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 7, 2014 8:41:02pm

Kings win 5-4 in 2nd OT period.

180 Killgore Trout  Jun 7, 2014 8:43:01pm

Must be Naked Bike Ride day here in Portland

181 GeneJockey  Jun 7, 2014 8:43:08pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Now are we talking 1955 BC or 1955 AD?

Ha!

1955 AD, but not one that actually existed. The one they remember, like the Reagan they remember - A time when everyone knew their place, and white Christian males were unquestionably top of the heap. Women didn’t want to work. Blacks didn’t want equal rights.

They don’t remember high marginal tax rates, or strong unions and frequent strikes. They don’t even remember being afraid of nuclear annihilation.

182 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 8:48:39pm

re: #158 Ed E. Lishus

What’s the message Dark_Falcon? I think that’s an important question.

I think it’s a little bit of both, as Obdi just pointed out.

In my #89 , while what I wrote was entirely true, I admit I was trolling KT with the reference to opening a can of potatoes and by ending with “Ya gotta laugh,” howeverLidane took what I said at face value and responded honestly and warmly with a story about her cats.

So the same message had two meanings and was understood and responded to based on past interactions & current expectations/assumptions. It was sort of the perfect illustration of what we were talking about, though I couldn’t have foreseen that.

183 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 8:53:27pm

re: #132 Gus

‘Deeply serious’ CNN segment likens Bergdahl to ‘Homeland’ TV terrorist Nick Brody

But hey, let’s give them credit for ignoring the missing plane.

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184 CuriousLurker  Jun 7, 2014 8:59:40pm

And with that I’m outta here. I’ll leave you with some videos on the nature of Sufi knowledge. They’re the live talks that the books are based on and are quite entertaining. The first one starts off with communication and how our assumptions complicate things. Enjoy.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

185 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2014 9:00:51pm

re: #179 Feline Fearless Leader

Kings win 5-4 in 2nd OT period.

This year’s Stanley Cup Finals are an overmatch in the Kings favor. The Rangers are good, ubt they’ve not got what is needed to take down LA.

186 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 9:03:54pm

Finally got around to watching the third episode of Penny Dreadful. One more to go and I’ll be caught up for tomorrow night.

I am absolutely in love with this show. It’s fantastic. Smart, well written, and the horror elements are done in the service of the story, not just for shock value. Love love love.

187 Dark_Falcon  Jun 7, 2014 9:12:41pm

re: #158 Ed E. Lishus

What’s the message Dark_Falcon? I think that’s an important question.

I was just speaking generally in response to Charles.

188 Lidane  Jun 7, 2014 9:20:48pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

189 Belafon  Jun 7, 2014 9:29:06pm

re: #186 Lidane

The show got my son, age 14, to read the Picture of Dorian Grey.

190 bratwurst  Jun 7, 2014 9:54:54pm
191 Ed E. Lishus  Jun 7, 2014 10:23:39pm

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

And that’s fine, but what I was really getting at is there is the message within the linked story, but there’s also the message in the sharing of the story. Like others I noticed earlier in the week Killgore linking to several articles the general gist was to cast a shadow on Sgt. Bergdahl’s character, with Killgore occasionally adding his own brief commentary, usually along the lines of “interesting” and “maybe he’s a deserter maybe he’s not.”

But you know that is completely irrelevant to the principle of “Leave No Soldier Behind.” All this stuff about Bergdahl’s character is really just political posturing by the right wing to attack President Obama. And maybe Killgore genuinely thinks he’s just linking to some interesting news, but it does nothing than to further this right wing narrative.

192 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 10:54:39pm

So yeah. Some moron went there with the USS Forrestal trutherism.

193 Gus  Jun 7, 2014 11:06:21pm

Sad. Fighting fire with fire.

194 Cheechako  Jun 7, 2014 11:33:17pm

I think this sums everything up.

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195 freetoken  Jun 8, 2014 12:33:22am

MP3 Audio

196 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 3:48:23am

re: #122 PhillyPretzel

Ugggh. I just looked at the gold box deals on amazon. The bonus deal is the complete set of Magnum PI. I really liked that series. I have to repeat the mantra “Resistance is not futile.”

I’m watching reruns on Encore every night. When I watched it in the 80’s off and on it was mostly for the Tom Selleck eye candy. Now I really appreciate what a great series it was - the variety of plots, relationships between Magnum, Higgins, TC and Rick, the exploration of social issues (PTSD, racism), balance of comedy and drama - I think it’s one of the best series in the history of television. Selleck is a great actor.

197 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 4:00:56am

Yes, it was a Walmart truck at fault in that Tracy Morgan wreck. Three people, including Morgan are still in critical condition.

“Police have charged 35-year-old Kevin Roper of Jonesboro, Ga. with one count of death by auto and four counts of assault by auto after the early morning Saturday accident, according to the Middlesex County Acting Prosecutor Andrew C. Carey and New Jersey State Police Superintendant Col. Joseph Fuentes.

“Roper surrendered to authorities late Saturday afternoon and was transported to the Middlesex County jail, where he is being held on $50,000 bail, according to New Jersey State Police.

“Roper was driving a Walmart tractor trailer northbound on the New Jersey Turnpike near Exit 7A in Cranbury, N.J. — about 15 miles north of Trenton — around 1 a.m. Saturday when he failed to notice slow moving traffic and slammed into a limo bus, which had Morgan, stand-up comedians Ardie Fuqua Jr., Harris Stanton and 62-year-old James McNair, and three others on board, according to officials.

nbcphiladelphia.com

198 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 4:08:08am

I am very pissed at the news that the FBI is investigating reports of threats against the Bergdahls; however, I’m not surprised at all, considering the insane coverage we’ve been witnessing, that people are resorting to such horrible tactics. I wouldn’t be surprised if this family doesn’t have to be relocated for their own safety.

Now you are tainted just by association with Pres Obama.

How dare them? From the outside, it must seem as though the entire country needs a mental health evaluation.

199 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 4:33:10am

^^^ I wish there was an FCC investigation of Fox News for failure to provide the necessary elements that qualify that damn organization as a legit news provider. A few others too. Knock Fox down a few notches, maybe some others will learn some lessons and watch what they are doing too.

200 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 4:41:05am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Indeed! In my case, boring old people tales (-:!

201 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 4:48:56am

re: #199 ObserverArt

^^^ I wish there was an FCC investigation of Fox News for failure to provide the necessary elements that qualify that damn organization as a legit news provider. A few others too. Knock Fox down a few notches, maybe some others will learn some lessons and watch what they are doing too.

CREW has already made a sort of attempt in the past couple of years, as have others, trying to build on the NewsCorp scandal in Britain, but got nowhere with it.

citizensforethics.org

Murdoch wants the LA Times, which is looking for a buyer by The Tribune Co, along with 7 other of its papers, but he may not get it.

nytimes.com

202 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 4:50:18am

re: #196 urbanmeemaw

I’m watching reruns on Encore every night. When I watched it in the 80’s off and on it was mostly for the Tom Selleck eye candy. Now I really appreciate what a great series it was - the variety of plots, relationships between Magnum, Higgins, TC and Rick, the exploration of social issues (PTSD, racism), balance of comedy and drama - I think it’s one of the best series in the history of television. Selleck is a great actor.

And did you know that Ivan Dixon, of Hogan’s Heroes fame, directed quite a few episodes of Magnum, P.I.?

Mr. Dixon also directed and produced a film that was not looked very kindly upon by The Man, and by ‘The Man’, I mean the FBI. There are allegations that the FBI had the film more or less suppressed by cajoling distributors into pulling the film shortly after its release. It was Tim Reid, of WKRP In Cincinnati fame, whose company got the film released on video - he tracked down a negative, which had been stored under a different name, and with that, got it released on DVD.

en.wikipedia.org

In 2012, the film was included in the National Film Registry.

imdb.com

Not many have seen the film; it is absolutely incendiary. I have it on DVD, and I highly recommend it. It’s a unique look at a particular era of American history, as well as a testament to African-American independent film-making.

203 Lidane  Jun 8, 2014 5:04:37am

My surprise, etc. —

I wonder which Republican will be the first one to say he deserved it.

204 Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2014 5:12:26am

re: #203 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

I wonder which Republican will be the first one to say he deserved it.

So he’s just like Senator McCain, except for having some kind of moral impulse.

205 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 8, 2014 5:12:31am

re: #196 urbanmeemaw

I’m watching reruns on Encore every night. When I watched it in the 80’s off and on it was mostly for the Tom Selleck eye candy. Now I really appreciate what a great series it was - the variety of plots, relationships between Magnum, Higgins, TC and Rick, the exploration of social issues (PTSD, racism), balance of comedy and drama - I think it’s one of the best series in the history of television. Selleck is a great actor.

There are only a tiny handful of TV shows I can go back to and watch at any time - the ones that hold up and remain entertaining. For me it’s Start Trek, Hogan’s Heroes, Rockford Files, Hill Street Blues & Magnum PI. I’d hate to try and rank them but you are so right about what they did and how they did it on Magnum with a flair rarely matched since.

206 A Mom Anon  Jun 8, 2014 5:14:10am

re: #203 Lidane

Or that he’s lying. Remember, some of these asshats saw the video of his release and said he looked perfectly fine.

You know, this whole thing makes me sick. Our Stupid Media is directly responsible for the way this guy and his family are being treated and they need to be held accountable for it.

I was accused of having BDS back in the day because I opposed us going into Iraq and saw the massive job losses no one was doing anything about. But the people with ODS really seem to have an actual disorder. Clinical.

207 Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2014 5:20:05am

re: #178 GeneJockey

Looks like a Muslim.
///

Muzzzzzzlim.

208 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 5:20:39am

re: #200 urbanmeemaw

Indeed! In my case, boring old people tales (-:!

Yes, but we shouldn’t overlook oral history if we want to understand how common folks lived, saw and experienced the world. Sure, it’s not academic but even that is not always correct, either. History is written by those who have a stake in writing it, from their own perspective, although that is changing in modern times when education tends to be universal and we’ve become more literate and can challenge assumptions, although modern communications may be having an effect on that, as we see everywhere online. The internet is somewhat like the party line gossip that used to plague people.

When we look for the history of common people in various eras, for instance, we must usually second-guess, since most educated people belonged to the upper class, or could hire academics and others who often did their work for commissions (just as they did others, such as artists) since some who assumed power were themselves illiterate. It’s not surprising that religious institutions, for instance, controlled more than a few kingdoms since they pretty much controlled education. But what was life like for the ordinary man, woman or child, for instance, when money was not available and other means were used to feed, shelter and provide for any of their needs? When you live off the land, and conditions are not always to your advantage, resulting in little or no crops, you are constantly suffering—not surprising that religion and superstition reigned over people. Hard to imagine that there are those who would like to go back to that.

209 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 5:38:07am

re: #205 William Barnett-Lewis

There are only a tiny handful of TV shows I can go back to and watch at any time - the ones that hold up and remain entertaining. For me it’s Start Trek, Hogan’s Heroes, Rockford Files, Hill Street Blues & Magnum PI. I’d hate to try and rank them but you are so right about what they did and how they did it on Magnum with a flair rarely matched since.

Haha, you should have been around for the “Peyton Place” phenomenon in the mid-60s. Since there was no way to record the show then, no one even went out on the nights it aired. I’d never heard of the book until then (it came out in 1956) but I read it and even though it was “cleaned up” somewhat, the series was pretty edgy for the time. It made a lot of careers.

en.wikipedia.org

210 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 8, 2014 5:40:18am

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Whenever I see someone with a shaved head, I always assume it’s the same person as every other person with a shaved head.

Doesn’t everyone think this way?

I shave my head. Other people shave their head. Therefore, I’m all shaved persons //fail

RBS

211 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 5:57:36am

Hello from Paris ;)

212 A Mom Anon  Jun 8, 2014 6:01:35am

re: #211 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

What the hell are you on the internet for then? GO. NOW. Come back with pictures.

(I haz a jealous)

213 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 6:05:06am

re: #212 A Mom Anon

What the hell are you on the internet for then? GO. NOW. Come back with pictures.

(I haz a jealous)

A midday pause :)

214 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 6:09:48am

Holy crap.

Delhi records a high temperature of 47.8º Celsius (118ºF), breaks 70-year-old record - @ndtv
see original on twitter.com

215 A Mom Anon  Jun 8, 2014 6:12:45am

Alright, I have to go get ready and load the car to take The Son back to school after lunch. Hopefully I won’t be driving through storms and wind, ack. BBL.

216 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 6:13:35am

So, this is spreading everywhere, this “don’t criticize me, bro” stuff?

Syrian condemns EU criticism of President Assad’s election win as “violation” of national sovereignty - @AJELive
Read more on aljazeera.com

217 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 8, 2014 6:14:25am

Ben Shapiro is spamming this Fake Quote:

218 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 6:18:45am

re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord

Not to mention that an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

219 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 8, 2014 6:20:06am

re: #218 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

Not to mention that an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

Tweeting Fake Quotes all day is what wingnuts do. I don’t think I have ever seen a Real Quote.

220 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 6:31:04am

re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord

Instead of dealing with facts and arguments.
It’s really not complicated in this instance.

1) When ppl speak about “Zionists” in contexts not related to Israel or the I-P conflict, they mostly use an antisemitic dog whistle.

Example: after the pro-Russian terrorists captured the TV tower in Slavyansk, they replaced the usual programming with some cultic national-patriotic crap (what that crap was is a separate curious story), claiming that it was a blow “against the Zionist zombies, the Zionist zombie box”. Since the situation had nothing whatsoever to do with Israel, they were obviously antisemites who were speaking about Jews.

2) When ppl speak about Zionists while discussing Israel, etc., they probably mean the ideology.

That’s all. No fake quotes and logical fallacies.

221 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 8, 2014 6:35:35am

Good morning lizards!

222 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 6:40:28am

re: #192 Gus

So yeah. Some moron went there with the USS Forrestal trutherism.

That’s the dumb allegation that the Navy lied about which Skyhawk fighter’s rocket pods fired while lined up on the deck, a misfire that started a massive fire and killed dozens of sailors. In truth, it was an electrical malfunction that caused the Skyhawk behind his to fire in John McCain’s (III) bird, but ever since 2008 there has been a floating meme that McCain was somehow responsible for the fire and the Navy covered it up because his father (John McCain Jr.) was an admiral at the time.

223 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 6:49:04am
Life seems normal when you’re in pain, until somebody helps you take the pain away. My therapist did that. And I never had a serious psychological condition like schizophrenia or a personality disorder. Not even a relatively common problem like anxiety or depression. No, I just had the normal stresses and pains of being human, like everyone else.

Also Paged

224 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 6:51:09am

re: #205 William Barnett-Lewis

There are only a tiny handful of TV shows I can go back to and watch at any time - the ones that hold up and remain entertaining. For me it’s Start Trek, Hogan’s Heroes, Rockford Files, Hill Street Blues & Magnum PI. I’d hate to try and rank them but you are so right about what they did and how they did it on Magnum with a flair rarely matched since.

Andy Griffith

225 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 6:52:51am

re: #197 Justanotherhuman

Yes, it was a Walmart truck at fault in that Tracy Morgan wreck. Three people, including Morgan are still in critical condition.

“Police have charged 35-year-old Kevin Roper of Jonesboro, Ga. with one count of death by auto and four counts of assault by auto after the early morning Saturday accident, according to the Middlesex County Acting Prosecutor Andrew C. Carey and New Jersey State Police Superintendant Col. Joseph Fuentes.

“Roper surrendered to authorities late Saturday afternoon and was transported to the Middlesex County jail, where he is being held on $50,000 bail, according to New Jersey State Police.

“Roper was driving a Walmart tractor trailer northbound on the New Jersey Turnpike near Exit 7A in Cranbury, N.J. — about 15 miles north of Trenton — around 1 a.m. Saturday when he failed to notice slow moving traffic and slammed into a limo bus, which had Morgan, stand-up comedians Ardie Fuqua Jr., Harris Stanton and 62-year-old James McNair, and three others on board, according to officials.

nbcphiladelphia.com

Trucker Charged in Tracy Morgan Crash, Wal-Mart Apologizes

226 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 6:56:33am

re: #225 FemNaziBitch

Trucker Charged in Tracy Morgan Crash, Wal-Mart Apologizes

Still, it is Roper who should be morally blamed for the wreck, not Wal-Mart. It’s their truck, so they’ve got some liability, but this particular fuck-up should not be ascribed to Wal-Mart’s policies unless further evidence emerges to support such a conclusion.

227 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 6:56:41am

6 Most Hilarious Pot Freak-Outs

228 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 6:57:35am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

6 Most Hilarious Pot Freak-Outs

Publishing mogul Tina Brown took her pot freakout to Twitter. She tweeted, “legal weed contributes to us being a fatter, dumber, sleepier nation even less able to compete with the Chinese.”

Matt Taibbi’s response to this little number is unrivaled: “Right. Because marijuana, not China’s bottomless supply of slave labor, is what’s responsible for the West’s growing trade imbalance.”

229 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 6:58:11am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

6 Most Hilarious Pot Freak-Outs

Grace also claimed in the segment that she’s against pot legalization because, “I’ve seen too many felonies, and I don’t mean pot sales or growing pot… I mean people on pot that shoot each other, that stab each other, strangle each other, drive under the influence, kill families.” She shared an anecdote about a stockbroker who “got addicted to pot” and lost her job, car and family.

230 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 6:58:19am

And from the Czech Republic’s premier tabloid Blesk, 21 photos of ‘Nope’.

blesk.cz

Enjoy.

232 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 7:00:42am

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

Still, it is Roper who should be morally blamed for the wreck, not Wal-Mart. It’s their truck, so they’ve got some liability, but this particular fuck-up should not be ascribed to Wal-Mart’s policies unless further evidence emerges to support such a conclusion.

I’ll wait for the official investigation’s findings and subsequent trial verdict.

233 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 8, 2014 7:04:40am

re: #224 FemNaziBitch

Andy Griffith

Mr Ed
Addams Family

234 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 7:06:53am

Now granted, this is from the UK Daily Mail, aka the ‘Daily Fail’, but it’s interesting nonetheless.


Edward Snowden was in Moscow’s sights six years before leaking U.S. secrets claims former KGB agent

Russian spies ‘tricked’ US whistleblower Edward Snowden into asking Moscow for asylum by posing as diplomats after spending six years targeting him, a former major in the KGB has claimed.

Boris Karpichkov, who fled Russia after 15 years serving with the KGB said Snowden had been identified as a potential defector as far back as 2007.

Snowden, 30, arrived in Moscow after he was revealed as responsible for leaking more than 1.7 million highly classified US documents.

Former CIA official Robert Baer has said the US has began investigating whether Snowden had been turned by the Russians in 2007.

Baer believes the Russians will want to know the extent of the West’s electronic interception capability.

dailymail.co.uk

Bear in mind, the DM is a tabloid, so take it with a grain of salt.

235 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 7:07:09am

re: #232 FemNaziBitch

I’ll wait for the official investigation’s findings and subsequent trial verdict.

There’s not going to be a trial, GGT. The criminal case will be resolved with a plea bargain, and the civil litigation via a settlement in which Wal-Mart admits no fault.

Cases like this don’t go to trial, frankly because trials take took long and because a company in this situation will want to make the matter go away. Neither party party to the civil suit will want to hire expensive experts to testify about the crash either, preferring instead to settle. The driver, for his part, will most likely be unable to afford expert testimony of his own and will thus have to take a plea bargain. Because if he were to fight this case out and lose, he’d receive significant prison time.

236 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 7:07:35am

The email I got promoting this book was titled: When did the NRA Go Crazy?.

The NRA bills itself as “the nation’s longest standing civil rights organization.” That’s not exactly how it started.

During the Civil War, Union officers had grown perturbed at the poor marksmanship of their troops. Previously, guns were inaccurate, and target practice a waste of time. Now new technology—breech-loading guns and metal cartridge ammunition—made shooting a prized skill. In 1871, militia and army veterans created a new organization to train American men to shoot safely and accurately: the National Rifle Association. General Ambrose Burnside—yes, the same gent whose name lives to describe his distinctive whiskers—served as ceremonial president for a year. Government helped: New York State bought the NRA a rifle range to hold contests. The organization nearly collapsed when the state withdrew its support. “There will be no war in my time or in the time of my children,” New York’s governor assured the group’s leader. “The only need for a National Guard is to show itself in parades and ceremonies.” So federal officials stepped in, creating the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice in 1901. It gave away surplus guns to clubs sponsored by the NRA. Between the world wars, the federal government provided 200,000 rifles to NRA members at cost. After the defeat of Japan, with its membership swelled, the NRA began to shift its focus. Its publications dwelled on hunting and sports shooting, not paramilitary activity. The group lobbied, and was based in Washington, D.C., but its principal focus was bagging deer, not blocking laws. In the late 1950s, it opened a new headquarters building to house its hundreds of employees. Metal letters spelled out its purpose in 1958: firearms safety education, marksmanship training, shooting for recreation.

239 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 7:21:23am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Now granted, this is from the UK Daily Mail, aka the ‘Daily Fail’, but it’s interesting nonetheless.


Edward Snowden was in Moscow’s sights six years before leaking U.S. secrets claims former KGB agent

dailymail.co.uk

Granted, the DM is a tabloid, so take it with a grain of salt.

It does match Russia’s tactics, though. They are famously willing to take the long view on spying.

240 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 7:21:59am

More on the Snowden affair from my #234, from the Mirror, which is also a sensationalistic tabloid.

Russian spies had whistleblower Edward Snowden in their sights SIX YEARS before he exposed US secrets, reports the Sunday People.

Moscow believed the cyber wizard working for the CIA in Geneva was ripe for defection in 2007 and opened a file on him, says a KGB defector.

But secret agents did not swoop until last year when Snowden, 30, fled to Hong Kong with 1.7 million top secret documents which he leaked to the media.

Ex-KGB Major Boris Karpichkov said spies from Russia’s SVR intelligence service posing as ­diplomats tricked Snowden into ­seeking asylum in Russia.

And when the turncoat went there the information was leaked to ­provoke the US into cancelling his passport , so restricting his movements, said Karpichkov.

He believes the Kremlin will keep the ex-US intelligence ­official another three years - until he has no more information to give.

Kapichkov revealed that the SVR had a recruitment operational dossier on Snowden, who had diplomatic cover to maintain the CIA’s computer network security in the Swiss city.

But they did not approach him until he went to Hong Kong, when agents persuaded him President Putin’s Russia was the best place for him to seek asylum in a nation of his choice.

Snowden caused a nightmare for Western espionage chiefs by revealing how US spy agencies harvested data on international phone calls and emails and even snooped on foreign leaders.

But Karpichkov says his old spymasters are not interested in that.

They want to know exactly how America and Britain encrypt and ­decrypt secret information.

“Codebreakers are the top targets of every secret service,” he said.

Last week the Sunday People ­revealed how Snowden has given so much away about how our GCHQ eavesdroppers gather information on Islamist killers that officials have been forced to set up new procedures.

This week it has emerged that GCHQ staff named by Snowden have made plans to rush their partners and kids to safety should they become targets for terrorists.

A senior Whitehall source told us: “Parts of the radar have gone dark and that is very worrying. Snowden has committed the worst kind of treachery.”

mirror.co.uk

Again, this is from a tabloid so as always, take it with a grain of salt. That being said, just because a tabloid is a tabloid doesn’t mean they can’t get one hell of a scoop.

241 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 7:24:21am

re: #236 FemNaziBitch

The email I got promoting this book was titled: When did the NRA Go Crazy?.

“There will be no war in my time or in the time of my children,” New York’s governor assured the group’s leader. “The only need for a National Guard is to show itself in parades and ceremonies.”

It goes without saying that the governor was quite wrong. His children lived to see World War I, when all of their father’s Victorian assumptions of progress came crashing down in a rain of shells and poison gas.

242 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 8, 2014 7:25:01am

re: #196 urbanmeemaw

I’m watching reruns on Encore every night. When I watched it in the 80’s off and on it was mostly for the Tom Selleck eye candy. Now I really appreciate what a great series it was - the variety of plots, relationships between Magnum, Higgins, TC and Rick, the exploration of social issues (PTSD, racism), balance of comedy and drama - I think it’s one of the best series in the history of television. Selleck is a great actor.

The co-creator of Magnum PI was Donald Bellisario, who also created JAG and NCIS. He wanted a detective show with a different setting than NY, or LA, and specifically one with Vietnam vets as characters. It built on the film industry created by Hawaii Five-O.

243 Eventual Carrion  Jun 8, 2014 7:27:04am

re: #227 FemNaziBitch

6 Most Hilarious Pot Freak-Outs

Here is my funny story with edibles.

Friend of mine used to grow back in his hometown. He was back there visiting and got some clippings that his friends were doing on their plants. He brings them back and sautes them up with some butter. Then uses the butter for some brownies.

Jam night comes around and he brings them out. There weren’t many people there that night that wanted to play so me, him, and 2 other friends are on stage most of the night just playing around.

I can feel the buzz kicking in and just enjoying the playing and singing. One guy wants to do a song that i had not heard but once before so he gives the key and chord progression and the change in the middle. We start a rather long intro and I am just playing around with the progression. We get into the meat of the song and I am just having fun with the chords, until I notice that I am the only one playing. I had missed the change and just kept on rolling. They were all smiling at me and the crowed was giggling. I asked the crowed if they enjoyed my solo and then we picked up where we left off.

So yeah, edibles can cause you to contemplate your navel. But maybe more people should do some contemplating.

244 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 7:40:01am

The nuances are difficult to navigate:

Exhibit 1 from a fb paged called the The real face of Men’s Rights Activism.

Exhibit 2 from the Wiki on Warren Farrell:

He came to prominence in the 1970s as one of the leading male thinkers[2] championing the cause of second wave feminism, and serving on the New York City Board of the National Organization for Women (NOW). However, when NOW took policy positions that Farrell regarded as anti-male and anti-father, he continued supporting the expansion of women’s options[3] while adding what he felt was missing about boys, men and fathers. He is now recognized as one of the most important figures in the modern men’s movement.

245 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 7:41:35am

re: #202 Dr Lizardo

And did you know that Ivan Dixon, of Hogan’s Heroes fame, directed quite a few episodes of Magnum, P.I.?

Mr. Dixon also directed and produced a film that was not looked very kindly upon by The Man, and by ‘The Man’, I mean the FBI. There are allegations that the FBI had the film more or less suppressed by cajoling distributors into pulling the film shortly after its release. It was Tim Reid, of WKRP In Cincinnati fame, whose company got the film released on video - he tracked down a negative, which had been stored under a different name, and with that, got it released on DVD.

en.wikipedia.org

In 2012, the film was included in the National Film Registry.

imdb.com

Not many have seen the film; it is absolutely incendiary. I have it on DVD, and I highly recommend it. It’s a unique look at a particular era of American history, as well as a testament to African-American independent film-making.

Thank you so much for this information. I am not aware of this film, and would love to see it. What struck me as I was reading the Wikipedia entry is how terrified this country was/is of insurrection by African Americans, but treat white terrorists or any threat they may pose as insignificant. The Tea Party and followers are every bit as incendiary in word and action as some African Americans were in the late 60’s/early 70’s, but the mainslime media treat them as justifiably “angry” and downplay terrorist tactics of Bundy, Marx, et al.

246 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 7:41:59am

Time to go Trout Fishing:

Killgore, this is for you, as is this.

This is on something you first brought up here, and I’m not sure its credible. But I wanted you to have have it.

247 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 7:43:32am

re: #243 Eventual Carrion

Here is my funny story with edibles.

Friend of mine used to grow back in his hometown. He was back there visiting and got some clippings that his friends were doing on their plants. He brings them back and sautes them up with some butter. Then uses the butter for some brownies.

Jam night comes around and he brings them out. There weren’t many people there that night that wanted to play so me, him, and 2 other friends are on stage most of the night just playing around.

I can feel the buzz kicking in and just enjoying the playing and singing. One guy wants to do a song that i had not heard but once before so he gives the key and chord progression and the change in the middle. We start a rather long intro and I am just playing around with the progression. We get into the meat of the song and I am just having fun with the chords, until I notice that I am the only one playing. I had missed the change and just kept on rolling. They were all smiling at me and the crowed was giggling. I asked the crowed if they enjoyed my solo and then we picked up where we left off.

So yeah, edibles can cause you to contemplate your navel. But maybe more people should do some contemplating.

I just shake my head a lot.

People seem to want absolutes and it just doesn’t work that way. The drug, the dose and the method of administration all affect the outcome.

All said, I have a very difficult time accepting that one method is going to produce horrible violent behavior. It’s freaking weed.

Unless there is some other drug interaction going on that I have never heard of . …

248 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 7:46:25am

another from my fb

I wonder if Trayvon Martin had been walking around with an open carry weapon instead of a can of ice tea and skittles if George Zimmerman would have thought he was a patriot and not a thug.

249 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 7:49:49am

re: #205 William Barnett-Lewis

There are only a tiny handful of TV shows I can go back to and watch at any time - the ones that hold up and remain entertaining. For me it’s Start Trek, Hogan’s Heroes, Rockford Files, Hill Street Blues & Magnum PI. I’d hate to try and rank them but you are so right about what they did and how they did it on Magnum with a flair rarely matched since.

Oh, yes! Rockford Files is another timeless show. I didn’t watch the other shows you mentioned back in the day, though I’ve been catching Hogan’s Heroes episodes on METV and find them brilliant. I also love WKRP In Cincinnati.

250 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 7:56:12am

re: #208 Justanotherhuman

Yes, but we shouldn’t overlook oral history if we want to understand how common folks lived, saw and experienced the world. Sure, it’s not academic but even that is not always correct, either. History is written by those who have a stake in writing it, from their own perspective, although that is changing in modern times when education tends to be universal and we’ve become more literate and can challenge assumptions, although modern communications may be having an effect on that, as we see everywhere online. The internet is somewhat like the party line gossip that used to plague people.

When we look for the history of common people in various eras, for instance, we must usually second-guess, since most educated people belonged to the upper class, or could hire academics and others who often did their work for commissions (just as they did others, such as artists) since some who assumed power were themselves illiterate. It’s not surprising that religious institutions, for instance, controlled more than a few kingdoms since they pretty much controlled education. But what was life like for the ordinary man, woman or child, for instance, when money was not available and other means were used to feed, shelter and provide for any of their needs? When you live off the land, and conditions are not always to your advantage, resulting in little or no crops, you are constantly suffering—not surprising that religion and superstition reigned over people. Hard to imagine that there are those who would like to go back to that.

I agree with you. I’ve always loved folk music for that reason. Studs Terkel’s oral histories (Working, Hard Times, etc) are masterpieces. Here in Cincinnati different organizations have engaged citizens in oral history projects. The Underground Railroad Freedom Center produced a video in which people talked about their reactions to 9-11. A local theater sponsors an event in which people tell their stories. I’m glad to see there are organizations that encourage this activity.

251 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 7:57:25am

re: #209 Justanotherhuman

Haha, you should have been around for the “Peyton Place” phenomenon in the mid-60s. Since there was no way to record the show then, no one even went out on the nights it aired. I’d never heard of the book until then (it came out in 1956) but I read it and even though it was “cleaned up” somewhat, the series was pretty edgy for the time. It made a lot of careers.

en.wikipedia.org

I’ve watched the movie several times on TCM and am always amazed at how cutting edge the subject matter was for that time.

252 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 7:57:26am

re: #248 FemNaziBitch

another from my fb

One thing is certain: Had he seen a gun, George Zimmerman would not have gotten out of his SUV. But he would have called the police, who would have come running.

253 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 8:06:44am

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi

A brilliant writer indeed. I’ll have to wikipedia him to see if he was a vet.

I don’t think the his nuanced treatment of soldiers in combat has ever been surpassed on a TV series.

254 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 8:07:21am

re: #245 urbanmeemaw

Thank you so much for this information. I am not aware of this film, and would love to see it. What struck me as I was reading the Wikipedia entry is how terrified this country was/is of insurrection by African Americans, but treat white terrorists or any threat they may pose as insignificant. The Tea Party and followers are every bit as incendiary in word and action as some African Americans were in the late 60’s/early 70’s, but the mainslime media treat them as justifiably “angry” and downplay terrorist tactics of Bundy, Marx, et al.

I can only imagine the absolute, wall-to-wall, nonstop pants-shitting hysteria from the usual suspects pundits if a film like that were released today.

In 2014.

FNC would be running specials denouncing the film, with their pretty blondes ramped up to their shrillest. It would be an epic meltdown to behold.

ETA: The film is on YouTube. Just enter the title of the film, and you’ll find it easily enough.

255 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 8, 2014 8:09:45am

Enormous risk of what?

256 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:10:02am

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

Time to go Trout Fishing:

Killgore, this is for you, as is this.

This is on something you first brought up here, and I’m not sure its credible. But I wanted you to have have it.

Yeah, I was just catching up this morning on the Trojan Horse story. It seems the row over the briefing is a big deal in the UK and causing some political shakeups. Telegraph is reporting this:
Trojan Horse ‘links to terror’

Radical school’s parents leader has been to Syria to support rebels and helps extreme groups

But still most of the reports are questionable and based of leaked info from the report. We’ll see what comes of this. The Brits will hopefully take care of this even though the final report may be watered down to pacify community relations. What a mess.

257 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:12:15am

re: #255 NJDhockeyfan

Enormous risk of what?

[Embedded content]

Perhaps future considerations wrt negotiating the Taliban having a place in the future of the Afghan gov’t
“Peace talks” have been ongoing (on and off) for a year or so now

abcnews.go.com

258 FemNaziBitch  Jun 8, 2014 8:17:56am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

One thing is certain: Had he seen a gun, George Zimmerman would not have gotten out of his SUV. But he would have called the police, who would have come running.

And, of course, Trayvon was underage.

259 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:18:18am

Carryover from last night’s conversation
The Paranoid Style in American Politics

The paranoid spokesman, sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms — he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization… he does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated — if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes

260 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:19:42am

re: #259 Killgore Trout

Carryover from last night’s conversation
The Paranoid Style in American Politics

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE BECAUSE OF ,,,,,,,,((fill in appropriate outrage du jour)))

261 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 8, 2014 8:24:28am

re: #257 sattv4u2

Perhaps future considerations wrt negotiating the Taliban having a place in the future of the Afghan gov’t
“Peace talks” have been ongoing (on and off) for a year or so now

abcnews.go.com

Heh. I think the Taliban can care less about any peace talks. That would mean they have to stop poisoning female students, carrying on suicide bombings, and killing Americans.

262 Teukka  Jun 8, 2014 8:25:21am

re: #260 sattv4u2

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE BECAUSE OF ,,,,,,,,((fill in appropriate outrage du jour)))

*fills in papercuts*

Lots of vicious papercuts

263 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:25:49am
The enemy is clearly delineated: he is a perfect model of malice, a kind of amoral superman — sinister, ubiquitous, powerful, cruel, sensual, luxury-loving. Unlike the rest of us, the enemy is not caught in the toils of the vast mechanism of history, himself a victim of his past, his desires, his limitations. He wills, indeed, he manufactures, the mechanism of history, or tries to deflect the normal course of history in an evil way. He makes crises, starts runs on banks, causes depressions, manufactures disasters, and then enjoys and profits from the misery he has produced. The paranoid’s interpretation of history is distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the stream of history, but as the consequences of someone’s will. Very often, the enemy is held to possess some especially effective source of power: he controls the press; he has unlimited funds; he has a new secret for influencing the mind (brainwashing); he has a special technique for seduction (the Catholic confessional)
264 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:27:07am

re: #261 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. I think the Taliban can care less about any peace talks. That would mean they have to stop poisoning female students, carrying on suicide bombings, and killing Americans.

Not really. As a part of a new legit new gov’t they could just “condemn” it as rogue elements in ungovernable areas or ignore it altogether

265 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:27:16am

re: #261 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. I think the Taliban can care less about any peace talks. That would mean they have to stop poisoning female students, carrying on suicide bombings, and killing Americans.

Pakistan has had peace talks (off and on) for decades. It ain’t gonna happen.

266 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:27:45am

re: #262 Teukka

*fills in papercuts*

Lots of vicious papercuts

Nasty buggers, those!!!

267 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:30:00am

re: #266 sattv4u2

Nasty buggers, those!!!

Pro Tip: vinegar and hot sauce soothe the pain and speed healing

268 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:30:42am

re: #267 Killgore Trout

Pro Tip: vinegar and hot sauce soothe the pain and speed healing

I prefer rubbing alcohol and lemon juice

269 makeitstop  Jun 8, 2014 8:31:46am

re: #268 sattv4u2

I prefer rubbing alcohol and lemon juice

Lacquer thinner and rock salt for me.

270 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:32:55am

Feinstein: ‘You can’t help but worry’ about released detainees

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said she was not satisfied with reassurances from Secretary of State John Kerry that the five Taliban leaders released in exchange for a U.S. soldier pose no threat to Americans.
“You can’t help but worry about them in Doha,” she said on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” in response to comments Kerry made on an earlier talk show insisting they were under heavy surveillance.

“And we have no information on how the United States is actually going to see that they remain in Doha, that they make no comments, that they do no agitations.”

271 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:33:59am

re: #270 Killgore Trout

And we have no information on how the United States is actually going to see that they remain in Doha, that they make no comments, that they do no agitations

I think I read somewhere that before they left GITMO they all made
pinky promises!!

272 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:35:32am

re: #271 sattv4u2

And we have no information on how the United States is actually going to see that they remain in Doha, that they make no comments, that they do no agitations

I think I read somewhere that before they left GITMO they all mad pinky promises!!

My guess is the strategy is to make things so nice for them in Doha that they’ll be too comfortable to leave. It might work.

273 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:36:51am

” What do you mean you’re leaving for Jihad? You have a message scheduled for Thursday.”

274 GeneJockey  Jun 8, 2014 8:40:37am

Morning Lizards!

They say you have to love your siblings, but you don’t have to like them.

My sister is bitching on FB about those awful cyclists shutting down the downtown of a nearby town, and holding a bicycle race, and how she feels bad for the poor residents of the town, inconvenienced for 4-5 whole hours on one Saturday morning during the whole fucking year.

I took part in the setup and teardown of the Burlingame Criterium for several years back in the early 00’s, and I can tell you, we got there in the dark, worked assiduously to make the course safe for racers, spectators, and residents, then spent hours standing in the sun as marshals to keep folks safe, then as soon as the last race ended we worked like dogs to make the whole place look as it if had never happened. Most of the downtown businesses not only welcomed the Crit, they actually sponsored it. The all claimed they got a lot more business that morning than a usual Sunday. Of course there was one business that bitched and moaned. We did what we could to mollify them, but you’re never gonna make some people happy.

Now my sister is turning into one of those cranky old farts who yell at clouds. Sheesh.

275 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:40:46am

re: #272 Killgore Trout

My guess is the strategy is to make things so nice for them in Doha that they’ll be too comfortable to leave. It might work.

Maybe, but living any type of “comfy” lifestyle requires some sort of income. Not sure any of them have much in the way of “marketable skills” and I’m not sure the Qatar gov’t wants to shell out the money needed for all five in perpetuity

276 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 8:41:54am

re: #272 Killgore Trout

My guess is the strategy is to make things so nice for them in Doha that they’ll be too comfortable to leave. It might work.

Might not, too. But it’s not a safe world. As for how they’ll be monitored, I’d wager it’ll just be covert surveillance.

277 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 8, 2014 8:42:29am

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Feinstein: ‘You can’t help but worry’ about released detainees

She better watch out. She might be labeled a DINO or something if this keeps up.

Dianne Feinstein: No threat to Bergdahl

Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein said she has not seen any evidence that the Taliban would have killed Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl if details of an agreement had leaked, contrary to what Obama administration officials have said.

When asked whether there was a “credible threat” on Bergdahl’s life if word had gotten out, the California Democrat responded: “No, I don’t think there was a credible threat, but I don’t know. I have no information that there was.”

278 The Awkward Guy  Jun 8, 2014 8:45:29am

Good fucking god. It never fucking stops.

279 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 8:46:27am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

One thing is certain: Had he seen a gun, George Zimmerman would not have gotten out of his SUV. But he would have called the police, who would have come running.

Yep. And then police would most likely have started shooting. Hey, black kid with a gun.

Speaking of Black Kids, or really any ages…has anyone seen a group of African Americans or even a single individual involved in open carry demonstrations? I don’t think I have.

Dark_Falcon, how would you feel about open carry in Chicago? Maybe Chicago area African Americans should take up open carry and have an effect on all the gun deaths there in the city.

280 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 8:47:45am

re: #274 GeneJockey

Morning Lizards!

They say you have to love your siblings, but you don’t have to like them.

My sister is bitching on FB about those awful cyclists shutting down the downtown of a nearby town, and holding a bicycle race, and how she feels bad for the poor residents of the town, inconvenienced for 4-5 whole hours on one Saturday morning during the whole fucking year.

I took part in the setup and teardown of the Burlingame Criterium for several years back in the early 00’s, and I can tell you, we got there in the dark, worked assiduously to make the course safe for racers, spectators, and residents, then spent hours standing in the sun as marshals to keep folks safe, then as soon as the last race ended we worked like dogs to make the whole place look as it if had never happened. Most of the downtown businesses not only welcomed the Crit, they actually sponsored it. The all claimed they got a lot more business that morning than a usual Sunday. Of course there was one business that bitched and moaned. We did what we could to mollify them, but you’re never gonna make some people happy.

Now my sister is turning into one of those cranky old farts who yell at clouds. Sheesh.

I can tell you that for some people, those bike races are seen as something kind of like overgrown, spoiled children with money who can afford $5K bikes and such and don’t have a dreaded 8-5 work schedule that keeps them from having any fun—in other words, they’re seen as “elitist” and not something anyone the critic knows participates in. Bikes are something they rode as kids and then gave up for good. Also, they’re vaguely “European” or “foreign”—not football or baseball, and certainly not American.

281 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 8:48:14am

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

She better watch out. She might be labeled a DINO or something if this keeps up.

Dianne Feinstein: No threat to Bergdahl

Yeah, I think the White House could have done a better job of getting their own folks on board.

283 The Awkward Guy  Jun 8, 2014 8:49:17am

MOAR BULLSHIT. Yes that’s clearly what’s needed here.

284 GeneJockey  Jun 8, 2014 8:51:41am

re: #280 Justanotherhuman

I can tell you that for some people, those bike races are seen as something kind of like overgrown, spoiled children with money who can afford $5K bikes and such and don’t have a dreaded 8-5 work schedule that keeps them from having any fun—in other words, they’re seen as “elitist” and not something anyone the critic knows participates in. Bikes are something they rode as kids and then gave up for good. Also, they’re vaguely “European” or “foreign”—not football or baseball, and certainly not American.

They should see the Cat 5’s lining up, then. A more regular-looking group of guys you’ll never see!

285 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 8:52:21am

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

When asked whether there was a “credible threat” on Bergdahl’s life if word had gotten out, the California Democrat responded: “No, I don’t think there was a credible threat, but I don’t know. I have no information that there was.”

You consider that a credible opinion?

286 GeneJockey  Jun 8, 2014 8:52:45am

re: #281 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I think the White House could have done a better job of getting their own folks on board.

Another talking point failure, eh Killgore?

287 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 8:52:51am

This one isn’t being taken the way I intended so its withdrawn.

288 The Awkward Guy  Jun 8, 2014 8:53:36am

AUGH. I need to step away. FUCK.

289 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 8:54:23am

re: #282 sattv4u2

Image: lanell-babbage-torres-speakers-guns.jpg

Image: HT_jack_in_box_ml_140506_16x9_992.jpg

Not sure what your images are showing and how they go to African Americans and open carry.

290 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 8:54:43am

Dianne Feinstein’s nose is out of joint because she wasn’t informed about the prisoner swap, and she’s acting like a vindictive ass, as usual.

291 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 8:55:31am

re: #289 ObserverArt

Not sure what your images are showing and how they go to African Americans and open carry.

African Americans at open carry rallies

Sorry. I thought that was what you were looking for

has anyone seen a group of African Americans or even a single individual involved in open carry demonstrations? I don’t think I have.

292 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 8, 2014 8:56:32am

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

Just fucking stop. Your party is disgracing itself with a vile, pathetic attack on an American POW who has probably suffered torture and worse at the hands of the Taliban and you’re desperately trying to get something, some responsibility to stick to the Obama.

Just fucking stop. Nobody believes this is because of anything Obama did. The GOP pivoted on a fucking dime from attacking Obama for not freeing Bergdhal to attacking Bergdhal. On a fucking dime.

Have some self-respect.

It won’t stop because of what the GOP has become.

293 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 8:57:06am
294 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 8:57:57am
295 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 8:57:57am

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

And part of the reason it does not stop is that the Obama Administration has offered several reasons for the Bergdahl Swap over the past week. That wouldn’t be a big deal if they’d put all of that info out in one press conference, but instead reasons and explanations were sent out over several days. Given the attacks leveled against the administration, that stream of rationales looks to many people like the administration trying to spin its way out of a jam.

So that’s why it won’t stop, SteelPH: Because the Obama Administration let itself look like its spinning.

Weak. Trying to answer to all the crap that is being tossed by the monkeys in the zoo is now spinning.

I’ll tell you one thing. Much of this has exposed many an ass in this country.

296 GeneJockey  Jun 8, 2014 8:58:40am

re: #287 Dark_Falcon

And part of the reason it does not stop is that the Obama Administration has offered several reasons for the Bergdahl Swap over the past week. That wouldn’t be a big deal if they’d put all of that info out in one press conference, but instead reasons and explanations were sent out over several days. Given the attacks leveled against the administration, that stream of rationales looks to many people like the administration trying to spin its way out of a jam.

So that’s why it won’t stop, SteelPH: Because the Obama Administration let itself look like its spinning.

Yeah, I guess the WH should have predicted that the folks who had been slamming Obama for ‘abandoning’ Bergdahl and demanding that he be brought home ‘by any means necessary’ would turn ON A FUCKING DIME and insist that Obama should have left him there to rot.

All this concern trolling over how the WH is handling what is clearly an insane situation makes me REAL cranky. I mean, seriously - If I’d told you two weeks ago that Obama would gain the release of an American POW that the Right had been calling form, and they’d IMMEDIATELY turn the POW into a traitor and castigate Obama for getting him out, you’d have told me I was being far too cynical.

297 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:00:22am

re: #284 GeneJockey

They should see the Cat 5’s lining up, then. A more regular-looking group of guys you’ll never see!

No, no, no—a real “bike” is a Harley, doncha know. : )

298 Dark_Falcon  Jun 8, 2014 9:02:10am

re: #279 ObserverArt

Yep. And then police would most likely have started shooting. Hey, black kid with a gun.

Speaking of Black Kids, or really any ages…has anyone seen a group of African Americans or even a single individual involved in open carry demonstrations? I don’t think I have.

Dark_Falcon, how would you feel about open carry in Chicago? Maybe Chicago area African Americans should take up open carry and have an effect on all the gun deaths there in the city.

1. The only instance of an African American involved in an open carry demonstration was during Obama’s first term in Phoenix, AZ. The man was (and still is) a Paulian who carried the only AR-type rifle of the demonstration (everyone else carried pistols).

2. If such a change in the law got rid of some of Chicago’s other gun restrictions, I’d like that aspect. But overall I don’t favor open carry for anybody save law enforcement. And regardless, I have no intention of carrying a gun in public myself. I don’t want to accept the responsibility it entails.

299 bratwurst  Jun 8, 2014 9:02:38am

Got to love it when people who ordinarily wouldn’t give two shits about what Dianne Feinstein has to say are now extremely concerned about her opinions.

300 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 9:02:40am

301 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 9:02:55am

And now we have Chris Wallace on Fox News wondering if Sgt. Bergdahl should be executed.

Right. This is all Obama’s fault. Pathetic.

302 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:04:07am

re: #274 GeneJockey

heh

There’s an annual race here in Atlanta. Course runs right across several streets that no matter which way I come to work I have to cross through (cops at intersections let a car go through when/ if there is an opening)

It also goes right in front of the entrance to our driveway in to the complex. Again, cops let a car go through when/ if there is an opening

On that day, I just leave home a LOT earlier and admire/ cheer the riders as I wait my turn to get through it

303 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 9:05:10am

304 sagehen  Jun 8, 2014 9:06:21am

re: #281 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I think the White House could have done a better job of getting their own folks on board.

Diane Feinstein has never been one of Obama’s “own folks”. Even Barbara Boxer, who’s considerably left of DiFi, was always more of a Clintonite. (they’re related by marriage, through Hillary’s brother).

305 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:06:36am

re: #301 Charles Johnson

And now we have Chris Wallace on Fox News wondering if Sgt. Bergdahl should be executed.

Right. This is all Obama’s fault. Pathetic.

I can’t stand much more of this myself.

This is an American GI. Fuck FN, the RWNJs and everyone who agrees with their POV.

This is a kangaroo court by media—no, worse, an Inquisition—of Bergdahl (and peripherally, his parents) and it should be shut down and stopped right however we, the public, can do it.

306 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:06:45am

re: #291 sattv4u2

African Americans at open carry rallies

Sorry. I thought that was what you were looking for

has anyone seen a group of African Americans or even a single individual involved in open carry demonstrations? I don’t think I have.

Well, how the hell am I supposed to know the woman in #1 was at an open carry rally. I see no gun. I can understand many African Americans wanting to protect some aspects of the Second Amendment, which she seems to be doing.

And in #2, is the young man second from right involved or was he there, maybe as a manger or worker. Again, where is his gun, he seems to be pointing to the guys drink?

And when I said participating, I meant an actual Open Carry Demonstrator carrying a gun. I would expect some African Americans caught up in some of the images at open carry.

And I am not trying to be smarmy about it. Just saying I haven’t seen African Americans involved in Open Carry Demonstrations. I am interested in the dynamic that hoping for Open Carry laws is going to have once a large group of African Americans want to Open Carry and occupy a Home Depot or A Chic-fil-A.

308 Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2014 9:08:08am

Sunday morning wingnut fandango.

309 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 9:08:37am

re: #303 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

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I’m so jealous. Eating well? What’s the seasonal treat in Paris this time of year?

310 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:08:54am

re: #306 ObserverArt

Image: art.obama.gun.pool.jpg

311 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:09:04am

re: #298 Dark_Falcon

1. The only instance of an African American involved in an open carry demonstration was during Obama’s first term in Phoenix, AZ. The man was (and still is) a Paulian who carried the only AR-type rifle of the demonstration (everyone else carried pistols).

2. If such a change in the law got rid of some of Chicago’s other gun restrictions, I’d like that aspect. But overall I don’t favor open carry for anybody save law enforcement. And regardless, I have no intention of carrying a gun in public myself. I don’t want to accept the responsibility it entails.

Just for debate, how would you think Chicago would react if open carry was allowed and large groups of African Americans hit the streets in an effort to make their own areas of the city better?

312 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 9:09:37am

re: #285 Charles Johnson

You consider that a credible opinion?

That was a non-opinion

313 bratwurst  Jun 8, 2014 9:09:41am

re: #308 Stanley Sea

Sunday morning wingnut fandango.

It’s the Wingnut Morning Wave Classical Liberal Morning Wave!

314 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 9:09:43am

315 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 9:10:37am

Amazing. Politico’s headline:

Dianne Feinstein: No threat to Bergdahl

But read the article and you discover she actually said “I DON’T KNOW.”

Such reeking clickbait bullshit.

316 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:11:09am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Dianne Feinstein’s nose is out of joint because she wasn’t informed about the prisoner swap, and she’s acting like a vindictive ass, as usual.

Seems to be the case. She even expresses that in her disgusted with it all looks she gives when being interviewed. I think she was left out of the party and is not liking it.

317 sagehen  Jun 8, 2014 9:11:44am

re: #292 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Just fucking stop. Your party is disgracing itself with a vile, pathetic attack on an American POW who has probably suffered torture and worse at the hands of the Taliban and you’re desperately trying to get something, some responsibility to stick to the Obama.

Just fucking stop. Nobody believes this is because of anything Obama did. The GOP pivoted on a fucking dime from attacking Obama for not freeing Bergdhal to attacking Bergdhal. On a fucking dime.

Have some self-respect.

It won’t stop because of what the GOP has become.

Bill Maher calls it “blacktracking: to change your mind because Obama agreed with you.”

318 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 9:12:36am

re: #309 Killgore Trout

Heh, I avoid fancy restaurants, the prices are even more eye-gouging than the last time :)

319 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:14:06am

re: #316 ObserverArt

Seems to be the case. She even expresses that in her disgusted with it all looks she gives when being interviewed. I think she was left out of the party and is not liking it.

However, if Feinstein (as a member of her committee) had been told and the rest of the members left out of the conversation, there would be screaming headlines of “Admin. Bias”. Would she have been obligated to inform her committee mates of what she’d been told by the WH?

320 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 9:14:31am

321 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:14:44am

re: #318 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

Heh, I avoid fancy restaurants, the prices are even more eye-gouging than the last time :)

Hell with fancy

Just some warm bread, some cheese, a tasty beverage at an outdoor cafe!!

322 Ding-an-sich Wannabe  Jun 8, 2014 9:15:09am

re: #321 sattv4u2

Yep :)

323 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 9:15:15am

re: #306 ObserverArt

Here’s a classic photo of some African-Americans at an open-carry, Second Amendment rally. California freaked out so bad, they changed the law. I suspect the same would happen nowadays, to be honest. California collectively dropped a deuce when they saw this open-carry rally

324 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 8, 2014 9:17:42am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

‘Cept they had the far more legit cause in mind. Scary open carry for it’s own sake is just recursive. Or something.

325 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 9:18:13am

...

326 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 9:18:44am

re: #321 sattv4u2

Hell with fancy

Just some warm bread, some cheese, a tasty beverage at an outdoor cafe!!

Yeah, the street vendors are more than good enough for me.

327 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:18:46am

re: #301 Charles Johnson

And now we have Chris Wallace on Fox News wondering if Sgt. Bergdahl should be executed.

Right. This is all Obama’s fault. Pathetic.

Really? That is going way out of bounds. Way the fuck out of bounds.

Decent Americans of all political stripes should be outraged about that sort of ‘reporting’ by the Fair and Balanced™ folks.

But they won’t. This country needs its collective mouth washed out with soap. Very old soap made with lye and animal fats.

328 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 9:21:06am

re: #327 ObserverArt

Really? That is going way out of bounds. Way the fuck out of bounds.

Decent Americans of all political stripes should be outraged about that sort of ‘reporting’ by the Fair and BalancedTM folks.

But they won’t. This country needs its collective mouth washed out with soap. Very old soap made with lye and animal fats.

“This town country needs an enema!”
-The Joker

329 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:21:22am

re: #310 sattv4u2

Image: art.obama.gun.pool.jpg

There you go. Thanks.

330 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 9:21:54am

Scrolling through this thread I’ve noticed a lot of blank comments.

What are you bad people saying that needs to be censored?

331 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:22:23am

re: #330 b_sharp

Scrolling through this thread I’ve noticed a lot of blank comments.

What are you bad people saying that needs to be censored?

nothing

332 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:23:31am

re: #327 ObserverArt

Really? That is going way out of bounds. Way the fuck out of bounds.

Decent Americans of all political stripes should be outraged about that sort of ‘reporting’ by the Fair and BalancedTM folks.

But they won’t. This country needs its collective mouth washed out with soap. Very old soap made with lye and animal fats.

The perfect soap for the purpose.

333 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 8, 2014 9:23:36am

re: #330 b_sharp

Scrolling through this thread I’ve noticed a lot of blank comments.

What are you bad people saying that needs to be censored?

Charles has not yet implemented thought bubbles.

334 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 9:24:39am

re: #331 sattv4u2

nothing

You always need to be censored just to keep young kids’ minds safe.

335 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:24:45am

re: #332 Justanotherhuman

The perfect soap for the purpose.

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We can’t use that till we’re in our 80’s, right???
/

336 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 9:26:17am

That blank comment by me was a deleted tweet from a raving wingnut, saying Bergdahl, his father, and Obama should all be turned over to the Taliban and beheaded.

Her profile calls herself a “devout Catholic.”

337 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 9:28:37am

re: #336 Charles Johnson

That blank comment by me was a deleted tweet from a raving wingnut, saying Bergdahl, his father, and Obama should all be turned over to the Taliban and beheaded.

Her profile calls herself a “devout Catholic.”

LOL ‘cause Jesus was so well-known for lopping heads off left and right - hell, he was practically like Conan the Barbarian, amirite?

///

*smh*

338 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:28:40am

re: #335 sattv4u2

We can’t use that till we’re in our 80’s, right???
/

Nope. You can still get it. Here, and if you want to overpay, on eBay.

vermontcountrystore.com

339 Skip Intro  Jun 8, 2014 9:28:51am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

Here’s a classic photo of some African-Americans at an open-carry, Second Amendment rally. California freaked out so bad, they changed the law. I suspect the same would happen nowadays, to be honest. California collectively dropped a deuce when they saw this open-carry rally

“There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” - Saint Ronald Reagan.

340 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:28:56am

re: #333 wheat-dogghazi

Charles has not yet implemented thought bubbles.

I had to jog up a hill the other day at the golf course and blew a snot bubble,,,, does that count??

341 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:29:07am

re: #329 ObserverArt

There you go. Thanks.

Image: art.obama.gun.pool.jpg

On second thought…was that maybe a Tea Party rally? Maybe you would know since you found the image. By the way, I’m guessing there are not a whole hell of a lot of such images. If I was an African American, I would be thinking twice about strapping on a gun for any kind of a demonstration, legit or not. I think they have some historical reasons for such concerns.

342 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:30:49am

re: #341 ObserverArt

Image: art.obama.gun.pool.jpg

On second thought…was that maybe a Tea Party rally? Maybe you would know since you found the image. By the way, I’m guessing there are not a whole hell of a lot of such images. If I was an African American, I would be thinking twice about strapping on a gun for any kind of a demonstration, legit or not. I think they have some historical reasons for such concerns.

It was a TP rally, IIRC, and the guy was even interviewed. A total tool for the RWNJs.

343 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:31:53am

re: #342 Justanotherhuman

It was a TP rally, IIRC, and the guy was even interviewed. A total tool for the RWNJs.

Thanks.

Okay Satty…balls back in your court. Play fair!

344 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:32:43am

re: #338 Justanotherhuman

Nope. You can still get it. Here, and if you want to overpay, on eBay.

vermontcountrystore.com

(((( I was playing off the brand name Octagon vis a vis octogenarian)))))

345 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 9:32:56am

re: #340 sattv4u2

I had to jog up a hill the other day at the golf course and blew a snot bubble,,,, does that count??

Gross.

346 plansbandc  Jun 8, 2014 9:33:31am

More hilarious Mad humor

347 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:34:03am

re: #343 ObserverArt

Thanks.

Okay Satty…balls back in your court. Play fair!

I googled African Americans at PRO open carry rally

All three images I posted came from the results

348 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 9:34:08am

re: #336 Charles Johnson

That blank comment by me was a deleted tweet from a raving wingnut, saying Bergdahl, his father, and Obama should all be turned over to the Taliban and beheaded.

Her profile calls herself a “devout Catholic.”

I’ve got a screenshot of that tweet.

349 makeitstop  Jun 8, 2014 9:35:02am

As for black guys and Open Carry Texas - I’m pretty sure that in the video where they get thrown out of Chili’s (the same video where the woman tells a member of OCT ‘you’re a dumbass’), mention is made of how they might be able to get into one restaurant or another ‘because we have a black guy with us.’ The black guy is the one filming to stupidity, IIRC.

350 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:35:06am

re: #345 b_sharp

Gross.

You want gross, you should have seen the tee shot that put me at the bottom of that hill

351 danhenry1  Jun 8, 2014 9:35:31am

Just WoW.

352 bratwurst  Jun 8, 2014 9:36:18am

Potentially big news breaking in Israel. Yair Lapid, head of Yesh Atid (translation: There Is a Future), the largest opposition party in the current government, has made a major statement at the Herzliya national security conference:

Edit: Haaretz now has a story on this topic (registration required to read the whole thing)

353 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 9:37:08am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can you post it, please?

354 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 9:37:36am

re: #350 sattv4u2

You want gross, you should have seen the tee shot that put me at the bottom of that hill

It was behind you right?

Hit a tree and it bounced?

355 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 9:37:41am

re: #353 Charles Johnson

Can you post it, please?

356 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 9:38:04am

re: #352 bratwurst

Potentially big news breaking in Israel. Yair Lapid, head of Yesh Atid (translation: There Is a Future), the largest opposition party in the current government, has made a major statement at the Herzliya national security conference:

[Embedded content]

That’s quite an interesting development. It could well trigger the fall of the current Netanyahu government and lead to new elections in Israel.

357 Amory Blaine  Jun 8, 2014 9:39:00am

Yeah lets all piss in our pants because 5 goat herders are back in the middle east. Newsflash, our invasion of the middle east created more terrorists.

358 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:39:52am

re: #354 b_sharp

It was behind you right?

Hit a tree and it bounced?

tee shot went PERFECT for about 120-130 yards,,, then it took a HUGE slice right. Been happening a lot ever since I got this new driver.

359 bratwurst  Jun 8, 2014 9:40:36am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded image]

Unreal. The sad part is that she probably never heard of Bergdahl or his father until about a week ago when the GOP taught her to hate them.

360 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 9:42:01am

re: #358 sattv4u2

tee shot went PERFECT for about 120-130 yards,,, then it took a HUGE slice right. Been happening a lot ever since I got this new driver.

Must be the driver. Right?

Rotate your hands earlier.

361 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 8, 2014 9:43:35am

Tonight was the graduation “party,” as they call it in China. Really, it’s a variety show in honor of the grads. I took a lot of photos, but this one I’m really happy with. Just pure luck getting the right pose and framing. The young lady, a graduating senior, is doing a Bollywood style dance.

Bebe

The shooting conditions at these things are tricky. They change the stage lighting gels quickly. I usually set my camera at ISO 1600 and shoot manually, hoping for the best.

362 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 9:43:57am

re: #360 b_sharp

Must be the driver. Right?

Rotate your hands earlier.

Thanks Tiger

363 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:46:32am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded image]

Has that acct been deleted? I can’t seem to find it.

364 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 9:47:47am

re: #363 Justanotherhuman

Has that acct been deleted? I can’t seem to find it.

She deleted the tweet but the account is still there.

365 bratwurst  Jun 8, 2014 9:48:22am

re: #363 Justanotherhuman

Has that acct been deleted? I can’t seem to find it.

Nope…here is the account for anyone who’d care to send some fan mail:

twitter.com

366 ObserverArt  Jun 8, 2014 9:51:32am

re: #347 sattv4u2

I googled African Americans at PRO open carry rally

All three images I posted came from the results

Bzzzt! Fail.

Google was associating African American with Guns and returned those results. That is the way Google works. But thanks for the effort. Later today I am going to do that same search to see how it works for my own education.

367 Amory Blaine  Jun 8, 2014 9:53:19am

Terrorism wouldn’t exist if weren’t for these 5 guys.!!!!! And Obamao let them go!!!! PATHETIC. I just saw a news segment talking about the life of luxury that awaits them. Clearly intended to undermine Obama. FOAD.

368 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 9:57:12am

re: #365 bratwurst

Nope…here is the account for anyone who’d care to send some fan mail:

twitter.com

Disgusting stuff.

369 Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2014 10:03:23am

re: #363 Justanotherhuman

Has that acct been deleted? I can’t seem to find it.

twitter.com

370 b_sharp  Jun 8, 2014 10:04:22am

re: #362 sattv4u2

Thanks Tiger

Hey, I’m an expert slicer.

371 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 8, 2014 10:06:36am

re: #361 wheat-dogghazi

Love the tone and edge light on her, I think she was looking at you and your camera.

372 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 10:07:56am
373 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 10:09:45am

Welp, the crazies and stalkers are trying for peak cray-cray.

374 Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2014 10:11:19am

Denial.

375 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jun 8, 2014 10:11:33am

re: #373 Gus

Welp, the crazies and stalkers are trying for peak cray-cray.

I suspect peak cray-cray is like peak wingnut, a myth.

376 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jun 8, 2014 10:12:08am

re: #374 Charles Johnson

That’s really sad. Joyner is usually one of the saner right wingers.

377 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:12:47am

re: #376 Rev_Arthur_Belling

That’s really sad. Joyner is usually one of the saner right wingers.

They all march in lock step, in the end.

378 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jun 8, 2014 10:14:41am

re: #377 Justanotherhuman

They all march in lock step, in the end.

Joyner is former military, too. He should know better.

379 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 10:14:58am

re: #370 b_sharp

Hey, I’m an expert slicer.

“Got fired from my job at the pickle plant

I put my finger in a pickle slicer.

The pickle slicer got fired too”

((h/t ,, Ron White))

380 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:15:02am

WTF is this bullshit?

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has declined to speak to his family, according to a US official familiar with the Army soldier’s recovery - @WSJ
Read more on online.wsj.com

“… according to a US official familiar…” Yeah.

381 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jun 8, 2014 10:16:50am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

WTF is this bullshit?

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has declined to speak to his family, according to a US official familiar with the Army soldier’s recovery - @WSJ
Read more on online.wsj.com

“… according to a US official familiar…” Yeah.

I really wish all these unnamed officials would keep their traps shut. The signal-to-noise ratio is bad enough as is. They’re not helping matters.

382 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:18:40am

re: #381 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I really wish all these unnamed officials would keep their traps shut. The signal-to-noise ratio is bad enough as is. They’re not helping matters.

It gets clicks for the WSJ, doncha know.

Name your source or STFU already with the gossip.

383 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 10:24:11am

Americans are sick in the head.

384 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 10:24:25am
385 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:25:18am

re: #384 Gus

[Embedded content]

Because non-thinkers don’t question the media? Sad.

386 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 10:27:12am
387 urbanmeemaw  Jun 8, 2014 10:28:25am

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

Thank you! I will definitely check it out.

388 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 10:30:37am

re: #385 Justanotherhuman

Because non-thinkers don’t question the media? Sad.

As Freetoken will tell you about Muricans. Also.

389 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 10:32:54am

re: #388 Gus

As Freetoken will tell you about Muricans. Also.

[Embedded content]

‘MURICA’S LOOKIN AT YOU, MICRONESIA!!

390 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 10:38:11am
391 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:38:28am

Rafael Nadal becomes 1st man to win 5 straight French Open titles - @SportsCenter
End of alert

He’s won 9 FOs. What a player.

392 sattv4u2  Jun 8, 2014 10:42:44am

re: #391 Justanotherhuman

Rafael Nadal becomes 1st man to win 5 straight French Open titles - @SportsCenter
End of alert

He’s won 9 FOs. What a player.

Could be the best clay court player of all time

AND,,, others that would be in the running for that title were nowhere as good as Rafa is on hard surfaces or grass

393 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:43:01am

394 Amory Blaine  Jun 8, 2014 10:43:19am

re: #388 Gus

As Freetoken will tell you about Muricans. Also.

[Embedded content]

And then after invasion, whine that the rich deserve another tax cut.

395 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 10:44:27am

re: #391 Justanotherhuman

Rafael Nadal becomes 1st man to win 5 straight French Open titles - @SportsCenter
End of alert

He’s won 9 FOs. What a player.

396 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:48:21am

Wow, it’s only 74 deg here with a little rain; t-storms later this evening. Was supposed to be 84, but I don’t think it will make it.

This weather…up and down, up and down temps, although it has been fairly warm recently.

397 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 10:48:54am

If you watch here: Youtube Video you can see that peace prayer thingie going on at the Vatican.

Right now, an imam is speaking. Cue wingnut meltdown!!

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 10:49:52am

quite the exchange of hatchling poop flinging over at littlegreenfootballs.com

399 Justanotherhuman  Jun 8, 2014 10:51:50am

re: #397 Dr Lizardo

If you watch here: [Embedded content]

you can see that peace prayer thingie going on at the Vatican.

Right now, an imam is speaking. Cue wingnut meltdown!!

We don’t need no stinkin’ ack-ew-mimical meetings, ‘specially w/those Mooslims.

400 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 10:53:28am

re: #399 Justanotherhuman

We don’t need no stinkin’ ack-ew-mimical meetings, ‘specially w/those Mooslims.

Heh.

I expect the wingnuts will go all ‘splodey heads over this. They seemed pretty pissed about it when the news broke, especially the Catholic wingnuts.

401 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 10:55:11am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

quite the exchange of hatchling poop flinging over at littlegreenfootballs.com

Sometimes it’s a good idea to Google “comments” like those. Found that one elsewhere. Grain meet salt.

402 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 8, 2014 10:56:12am

re: #401 Gus

Sometimes it’s a good idea to Google “comments” like those. Found that one elsewhere. Grain meet salt.

yep. Seems like they are following each other around derping wherever they land.

403 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 10:57:50am

Reuters Reporter Once Held by Taliban Pleads for Caution in Judging Bergdahl

I caution Americans. There’s all these rumors that came out during my case and many were not true. It’s really important to sort of wait and get the facts here. A lot of the reporting on this story has been way off and we need to hear from Bowe Bergdahl about what happened that night. And on another note, I still today, five years later, feel tremendous regret for going to an interview with the Taliban, getting kidnapped, and what I put my family through. Whatever caused Bowe Bergdahl to walk off that base — did he desert, did he have a mental breakdown — he will regret this for the rest of his life. I guarantee you.

404 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 10:57:59am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. Seems like they are following each other around derping wherever they land.

WAR OF THE GARGANTUDERPS!!

405 CuriousLurker  Jun 8, 2014 10:59:47am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

WTF is this bullshit?

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has declined to speak to his family, according to a US official familiar with the Army soldier’s recovery - @WSJ
Read more on online.wsj.com

“… according to a US official familiar…” Yeah.

ABC is reporting it differently, emphasis mine:

Bergdahl has said that he was kept in the cage after an attempt to escape. While Bergdahl appears to be physically able to travel, officials do not believe he is yet prepared for talking with his parents or family.

One senior defense official tolld ABC that Bergdahl’s condition shouldn’t be particularly surprising, considering the brutal conditions he was in and the abuse and beatings he suffered.

I’m WAY past disgusted with the MSM over this story.

406 Dr Lizardo  Jun 8, 2014 10:59:54am

ZOMG! HE’S RECITING FROM THE QUR’AN! TEH VATICAN IZ NOW A MOSQUE!!

Wingnuts

407 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 11:02:04am

re: #401 Gus

Sometimes it’s a good idea to Google “comments” like those. Found that one elsewhere. Grain meet salt.

Looks like one of those “social media strategies” that you can hire. Maybe people involved have some money to burn to settle personal/legal grudges or political motives from political groups. If it’s a political group it’s a low cost cheap operation, Probably cost them a couple hundred bucks to have bots scour the web.

408 Stanley Sea  Jun 8, 2014 11:02:31am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

quite the exchange of hatchling poop flinging over at littlegreenfootballs.com

Amazing they found LGF.

409 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 11:08:05am

re: #408 Stanley Sea

Amazing they found LGF.

I think it’s a paid service, probably using bots to scour google looking for mentions of each other

410 Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2014 11:09:03am

re: #409 Killgore Trout

I think it’s a paid service, probably using bots to scour google looking for mentions of each other

Part of a swiftboat toolkit?

411 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 11:10:37am

re: #410 Decatur Deb

Part of a swiftboat toolkit app?

ftfy

412 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 11:11:40am

re: #411 Gus

ftfy

$2.99 and a free copy of Angry Birds.

413 Gus  Jun 8, 2014 11:13:43am

re: #407 Killgore Trout

Looks like one of those “social media strategies” that you can hire. Maybe people involved have some money to burn to settle personal/legal grudges or political motives from political groups. If it’s a political group it’s a low cost cheap operation, Probably cost them a couple hundred bucks to have bots scour the web.

Yeah. But as we learned from the stalkers never underestimate the ability for people to make this a personal “hobby.” O.O

414 Killgore Trout  Jun 8, 2014 11:14:14am

re: #413 Gus

Yeah. But as we learned from the stalkers never underestimate the ability for people to make this a personal “hobby.” O.O

Good point

415 De Kolta Chair  Jun 8, 2014 11:17:47am

re: #242 wheat-dogghazi

The co-creator of Magnum PI was Donald Bellisario, who also created JAG and NCIS. He wanted a detective show with a different setting than NY, or LA, and specifically one with Vietnam vets as characters. It built on the film industry created by Hawaii Five-O.

I’ve been catching Magnum PI reruns as well, though I’m not a fan of the last season, which I recall Selleck didn’t care for either. If it hadn’t been for his contract with CBS, he would’ve been Indiana Jones.

Fun fact: Orson Welles provided the voice of Robin Masters.

416 CuriousLurker  Jun 8, 2014 12:11:37pm

re: #405 CuriousLurker

ABC is reporting it differently, emphasis mine:

I’m WAY past disgusted with the MSM over this story.

I forgot the link: abcnewsradioonline.com


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