President Obama: US Will Not Send Troops to Iraq, Considering Other Options

No good options

In a statement this morning, President Obama said he will not be sending US troops to Iraq, but did not rule out other types of military action such as airstrikes.

Speaking just before leaving for North Dakota, Obama told reporters that Iraqi leaders would have to reach a political solution to the sectarian divide in their country by making compromises with their opponents.

“We can’t do it for them,” the president said, repeating the same phrase a few minutes later.

The insurgent group, which calls itself the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), “poses a danger to Iraq and its people,” Obama said. “And given the nature of these terrorists, it could pose a threat, eventually, to American interests as well.”

Obama said the insurgents’ recent gains should serve as “a wake-up call” to the Iraqi government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, and he cautioned that he would not exercise any military option until Iraq’s leaders demonstrated their commitment to bridging differences between sectarian groups.

In other news, the Pentagon is reportedly moving the aircraft carrier George H.W. Bush into the Persian Gulf.

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185 comments

1 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 10:48:24am

IMPEAHC!
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2 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 10:50:39am

I already knew he was a weenie, but this seals the deal.

3 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 10:52:02am

Congress to create special supercommittee to investigate situation in regard to confirmed deserter/traitor Bowe Bergdahl Benghazi Iraq, to collect information, determine facts and impeach Obama.

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4 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 10:52:20am

IOW, he’s preparing for the least bad option available to him.

And the GOP will dissemble his comments by claiming he’s losing (or lost) Iraq by not sending in troops (even though they’d be complaining all the same if he did).

The Iraqi government has to do more on its own behalf to get the situation under control, and the US can help with the military aspects, but this is as much about the sociopolitical situation across the country as it is about ISIS gaining territory.

ISIS wouldn’t be in the position it is currently in if the military were cohesive and the personnel were eager to fight on behalf of the government. They’re not. That is a huge vote of no confidence in the Maliki government. It’s also up to the Iraqi govt to figure out how to fix that; and speed is of the essence.

5 klys  Jun 13, 2014 10:53:18am

Man, how refreshing is it to have a President who actually considers the cost of actions, including the indirect costs of things like …enabling a government that really needs to be able to stand on its own if it is going to have legitimacy?

Of course, from the circle-jerk by certain folks downstairs, you wouldn’t have any idea. But I appreciate all the sane Lizards.

6 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 10:55:53am

If I read this right, it’s like this:

Maliki: Barack! Save my ass!

Obama: Prove to me that it’s worth saving.

7 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 10:58:58am

Pipsqueak says what?

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio: ‘Both Congress and the Pentagon have been warning the White House about the worsening situation in Iraq … It’s long past time for the president to lay out a plan for how we can reverse the momentum and spread of terrorism in Iraq’ - statement via @NBCNews
End of alert

Sorry, JB, but we’re not sending in the troops to satisfy your defense industry friends.

8 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 10:59:53am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I already knew he was a weenie, but this seals the deal.

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1) He’s offended by something a band retweeted
2) OneRepublic? Seriously?

9 FemNaziBitch  Jun 13, 2014 11:00:05am

10 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 11:01:21am

Mexico, 1-0, if you’re keeping score.

11 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 11:01:24am
12 FemNaziBitch  Jun 13, 2014 11:07:17am
13 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 11:07:30am

Home team advantage?

More: With win over Cameroon, Mexico defeats an African team for the 1st time at the World Cup - @SportsCenter
see original on twitter.com

14 FemNaziBitch  Jun 13, 2014 11:08:04am
15 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 11:08:43am

re:
#8

Some people are easily offended.

16 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 11:09:33am

And again…

The “Unsafe Abortion Protection Act” will require that any doctor who performs more than five abortions per year “have active admitting privileges at a hospital that is located not further than thirty miles from the location at which the abortion is performed or induced and that provides obstetrical or gynecological health care services.”

Jindal said the law “will give women the health and safety protections they deserve, and continue to make Louisiana a state that values individual human life.”

However, the admission privileges the new law requires doctors to have are difficult to come by, because they are largely business decisions based on how many beds a doctor can fill. Because of the low rate of complications associated with abortions, it is difficult for abortion providers to meet the minimum number of admissions required to obtain the privilege.

17 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 11:10:16am

re: #15 Bulworth

re:
#8

Some people are easily offended.

What the fuck do you mean by that?
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18 FemNaziBitch  Jun 13, 2014 11:10:16am
19 piratedan  Jun 13, 2014 11:10:21am

re: #12 FemNaziBitch

gee, I dunno, maybe having multiple networks pumping out the message 24/7 that liberals are evil, unpatriotic and willing to sacrifice everything you hold dear in this way of life could have something to do with it…..

20 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:10:33am

re: #16 Kragar

And again…

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21 Killgore Trout  Jun 13, 2014 11:10:52am

re: #12 FemNaziBitch

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The culture wars are toxic.

22 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:11:35am
23 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:11:50am
24 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 11:12:06am

re: #20 Gus

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Whats the difference between a Jihadi and an Ammosexual?

Geography

25 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 11:12:35am

re:
#16

So, ‘less government’, ‘more Freedom”, then?

26 FemNaziBitch  Jun 13, 2014 11:12:36am

Really? Canada is looking better and better.

27 FemNaziBitch  Jun 13, 2014 11:13:29am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

The culture wars are toxic.

and tiresome.

going for my nap

bbl

28 b.d.  Jun 13, 2014 11:14:09am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Bizarre

29 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 11:15:16am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

The culture wars are toxic.

MBF.

The ever-rightward drift of the already-right creating the gap in the middle is toxic. Especially if you’re female and/or poor and/or gay and or not white.

30 klys  Jun 13, 2014 11:16:44am

re: #29 wrenchwench

MBF.

The ever-rightward drift of the already-right creating the gap in the middle is toxic. Especially if you’re female and/or poor and/or gay and or not white.

I like the part where I am supposed to compromise with people seeking to take away my rights. Like that is a valid position. Ok. Sure. Whatever.

31 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 11:16:46am

re: #12 FemNaziBitch

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Which just proves that liberals are more open minded about new ideas, people not like ourselves, other cultures, and are less likely to judge people with preconceived prejudices, and more likely to move out of our “comfort zones” than conservatives.

32 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:17:19am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

The culture wars are toxic.

You mean like women’s suffrage, voting rights, gay rights, civil rights, and Jim Crow laws? Those culture wars or just some white male on Twitter?

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 11:17:38am
34 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:17:53am

The culture wars have been terrible on white alpha-males!

MRAs unite!

//

35 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 11:18:09am
36 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 11:18:45am

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

Which just proves that liberals are more open minded about new ideas, people not like ourselves, other cultures, and are less likely to judge people with preconceived prejudices, and more likely to move out of our “comfort zones” than conservatives.

Well, let’s see.

Moved overseas and still living there.
Lived in several different countries.
Learned a few languages.
Became a Sufi Muslim.
Currently dating an African Christian woman.

Holy shit! I must be more liberal than Lenin!!!

37 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 11:18:52am

It is impossible for our society to deal with complex issues, like Iraq, it appears, based on what is blaring through the various media.

Take this for example:

A Simple and Useful Guide to Understanding the Conflict in Iraq

Because we need it simple.

But it comes across more like simpleton - this from that article:

Can You Remind Me About Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds Quickly?

Yes. This is tricky but important. There are three main groups in Iraq: Sunni Arabs, Shiite Arabs and Sunni Kurds.

Sunni and Shiite are different sects of Islam, a religion.

Kurd is an ethnic group, like Arab or Indian or Caucasian.
[…]

sigh….

38 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 11:19:18am

re:
#33

just asking questions….

39 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 11:19:19am

re: #21 Killgore Trout

The culture wars are toxic.

“Culture War” is a MBF term designed to hide the fact that you have groups of people demanding their rights, and others who fight to deny those rights. “Culture War” makes it sound like “Both Sides Do It”, and plays into the idea that not being able to deny others the rights you enjoy is the same as having your own rights infringed.

40 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:20:30am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

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Like I said. They have a lot in common with ISIS.

42 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 11:21:36am

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

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From the link:

So, in those specific respects, Joe the Plumber has a point. He obviously needs a lesson in decorum; his absolutist message cries out for subtlety; but the principle that government must prove its case before trumping constitutional rights is perfectly valid.

Shorter CATO:

The message is right. The messaging needs work though.

43 klys  Jun 13, 2014 11:22:40am

re: #39 GeneJockey

“Culture War” is a MBF term designed to hide the fact that you have groups of people demanding their rights, and others who fight to deny those rights. “Culture War” makes it sound like “Both Sides Do It”, and plays into the idea that not being able to deny others the rights you enjoy is the same as having your own rights infringed.

Apparently we are all just supposed to wait for the other side to die off/public opinion to change and then we get our rights. Instead of, you know, recognizing the very real and detrimental impact that not having those rights in the here-and-now has.

Of course, from his comments KT doesn’t have to worry about any of these problems and as such it’s all an abstract to him.

44 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 11:23:39am

re: #39 GeneJockey

“Culture War” is a MBF term designed to hide the fact that you have groups of people demanding their rights, and others who fight to deny those rights. “Culture War” makes it sound like “Both Sides Do It”, and plays into the idea that not being able to deny others the rights you enjoy is the same as having your own rights infringed.

It is also true that the people who first started with the “culture war” rhetoric are extremist reactionaries intent on undoing decades of progress for women, minorities, gays, etc., etc.

To set off a war, it is sufficient to have one side intent on doing so. So let’s have it out. Either the American Taliban win and we end up with a theocracy, or they lose and we can get back to debating real political issues as opposed to culture war bullshit.

45 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:25:11am

Democrats need to stop oppressing minorities! It’s not helping in the culture war!

Both sides do it!

MBF

46 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:26:21am

Here’s a fucking clue. Some asshole Firefox CEO stepping down does not equal women’s rights; racism; voting rights; civil rights; etc. Damn these MRAs are just so weird.

47 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:26:49am
48 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 11:27:43am
49 CuriousLurker  Jun 13, 2014 11:28:31am

OT: Postman just brought my 1 kilo jar of Pakistani mango pickles. I don’t otherwise like mangoes, but these things nom, nom, nom… They’re chopped up and preserved in curry, spices, and oil. They’re spicy, but not hot and the flesh of the mangoes is very soft & kind of tangy-sour—a nice complement to the oil and strong curry flavor. The work great as a side dish or condiment.

They’re not gonna win any beauty pageants, but that’s okay as long as they taste good (excuse the somewhat blurry pic):

Mago pickles

Screw the culture wars—I have mango pickles and you guys don’t, so there. Time to go eat some… BBL

50 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 11:28:50am

Isn’t the world supposed to end today, Fri the 13th, with that solar flare and all? ////////////////////////////

51 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 11:29:31am

re: #12 FemNaziBitch

I was disappointed in this article. It doesn’t seem to point out that the main reason for this increasing polarization is that the GOP and the US right are going nuts.

Since this is a fact as opposed to opinion, its omission in a piece of straight reporting is troubling.

52 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 11:29:58am

re: #50 Justanotherhuman

53 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 11:30:10am

re: #49 CuriousLurker

OT: Postman just brought my 1 kilo jar of Pakistani mango pickles. I don’t otherwise like mangoes, but these things nom, nom, nom… They’re chopped up and preserved in curry, spices, and oil. They’re spicy, but not hot and the flesh of the mangoes is very soft & kind of tangy-sour—a nice complement to the oil and strong curry flavor. The work great as a side dish or condiment.

They’re not gonna win any beauty pageants, but that’s okay as long as they taste good (excuse the somewhat blurry pic):

Mago pickles

Screw the culture wars—I have mango pickles and you guys don’t, so there. Time to go eat some… BBL

Don’t like mangoes? What are you, nuts? Mangoes are like peaches with attitude!!
//

54 nsmith25  Jun 13, 2014 11:30:16am

re: #50 Justanotherhuman

Isn’t the world supposed to end today, Fri the 13th, with that solar flare and all? ////////////////////////////

And a Full Moon OMG
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55 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 11:30:30am
56 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:30:37am

re: #51 EPR-radar

I was disappointed in this article. It doesn’t seem to point out that the main reason for this increasing polarization is that the GOP and the US right are going nuts.

Since this is a fact as opposed to opinion, its omission in a piece of straight reporting is troubling.

Exactly. Honestly the left really hasn’t grown any more left wing the past six years. The right OTOH continues to grow more and more rabid.

57 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 11:31:08am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

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Yeah, but that was always true.

58 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:31:13am

re: #49 CuriousLurker

OT: Postman just brought my 1 kilo jar of Pakistani mango pickles. I don’t otherwise like mangoes, but these things nom, nom, nom… They’re chopped up and preserved in curry, spices, and oil. They’re spicy, but not hot and the flesh of the mangoes is very soft & kind of tangy-sour—a nice complement to the oil and strong curry flavor. The work great as a side dish or condiment.

They’re not gonna win any beauty pageants, but that’s okay as long as they taste good (excuse the somewhat blurry pic):

Mago pickles

Screw the culture wars—I have mango pickles and you guys don’t, so there. Time to go eat some… BBL

Oh my wantness.

59 CuriousLurker  Jun 13, 2014 11:31:28am

re: #53 GeneJockey

Don’t like mangoes? What are you, nuts? Mangoes are like peaches with attitude!!
//

Don’t like peaches either. *wrinkles nose*

60 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:31:59am

re: #59 CuriousLurker

Don’t like peaches either. *wrinkles nose*

You must be some kind of Muslim.

61 Timothy Watson  Jun 13, 2014 11:32:37am

re: #48 Pie-onist Overlord

To be fair, I agree with the point about not knowing the true cost for healthcare, to an extent.

But the problem is that hospitals and in-/out- patient care providers don’t advertise what the cost is for a procedure or an operation.

62 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 11:32:46am

re: #59 CuriousLurker

Don’t like peaches either. *wrinkles nose*

Ah. So you ARE nuts. Ripe peaches are the best damned fruit on the planet, and I’ll fight anyone who says different!!!
///(mostly - the fighting part, not the ‘best damned fruit’ part)

63 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 11:33:08am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

You must be some kind of Muslim.

Is that like “Some kind of wonderful”?

64 klys  Jun 13, 2014 11:34:18am

re: #59 CuriousLurker

Don’t like peaches either. *wrinkles nose*

I will sacrifice myself to eat all the peaches for you.

65 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 11:34:19am

re: #53 GeneJockey

Don’t like mangoes? What are you, nuts? Mangoes are like peaches with attitude!!
//

Nothing would make me like mangos. Didn’t eat them when they were all over our yard in FL and I refuse to eat them to this day (I even bought one recently to see if the dislike was still there—yeah, it was). Like guavas, papayas, oranges and coconuts, they were ubiquitous in FL, and I don’t like guavas or papayas, either. OTOH, fresh coconut and oranges—yum.

66 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 11:34:20am

Culture war whining from the people that want to oppress women, gays, Muslims, etc. Was thinking about adding atheists but they’re not oppressed since atheism is a mutable characteristic.

67 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:34:29am

re: #63 GeneJockey

Is that like “Some kind of wonderful”?

Haha more so spoofing the old calling someone a commie and in this case calling CL a Muslim is accurate though not germane to not liking peaches. You know what I like though, avocados. So good.

68 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:35:27am

re: #66 Gus

Culture war whining from the people that want to oppress women, gays, Muslims, etc. Was thinking about adding atheists but they’re not oppressed since atheism is a mutable characteristic.

Right, you’ve got one side that just wants to live their lives in peace and you’ve got the other side who actually believes things like same sex marriage will usher in the Third Reich 2.0.

69 klys  Jun 13, 2014 11:35:46am

re: #66 Gus

Culture war whining from the people that want to oppress women, gays, Muslims, etc. Was thinking about adding atheists but they’re not oppressed since atheism is a mutable characteristic.

Which is totally why religion is a protected class that deserves strict scrutiny but sexual orientation is not!

///

That was really one of the WTF arguments in some of the court cases on SSM.

70 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:37:39am

You know to me it’s simple. If you don’t like abortion. No one’s pressuring you to have one. Pro-choice is all about that last word. You don’t like SSM? Well no one is forcing your church to perform the marriage. Fundie zealots can’t handle gay people being on their postage stamps for crying out loud without them flipping the hell out. So yeah it’s definitely not both sides. It’s one side that is still stuck in the 1960’s in regards to things like birth control and homosexuality.

71 sagehen  Jun 13, 2014 11:43:36am

re: #24 Kragar

Whats the difference between a Jihadi and an Ammosexual?

Geography

BEARDS!!

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 11:43:36am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Right, you’ve got one side that just wants to live their lives in peace and you’ve got the other side who actually believes things like same sex marriage will usher in the Third Reich 2.0.

The thing is, the RWNJ are more like the you-know-whats than they think TEH LIBRULS are.

73 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 11:44:46am

what just happened

74 blueraven  Jun 13, 2014 11:47:10am

Uh oh. It. Is. On.

Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) said Friday that he will run for House majority leader, which means that Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will not have a clear path to the second-ranking leadership position in the lower chamber.

75 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 11:48:27am
Uh oh. It. Is. On.

And Labrador tends to libertarianism. See what is happening? Someone is paying a lot to have this tilt happen.

76 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:50:08am

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

The thing is, the RWNJ are more like the you-know-whats than they think TEH LIBRULS are.

Yeah, I agree with that.. What amuses me is they like to compare us on the left to the you know who and the Klan but yet they hate on us for embracing multiculturalism too because you know the you know who and KKK, they’re totally the types that welcome immigrants of all backgrounds and don’t mind languages that aren’t their own being spoken.

77 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 11:50:51am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Right, you’ve got one side that just wants to live their lives in peace and you’ve got the other side who actually believes things like same sex marriage will usher in the Third Reich 2.0.

THAT’S RIGHT CUZ HITLER WAS GHEY-MARRIED TO EBERHARDT BRAUN BEFORE HE KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WAS TEH GHEY!

78 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 11:54:30am

Wrong headline of the day:

Study: Vast Underground Ocean Discovered Near Earth’s Core

That is very misleading. The “water” isn’t really water but rather hydroxide ions, part of Ringwoodite.

It’s not an ocean, it’s a rock. The rock can change as it moves upwards, and eventually the hydroxide ions can separate and form water that can then reach the surface through lava flows, volcanoes, and such.

Many silly headlines on this one today.

The original paper is here:

sciencemag.org

79 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 11:55:28am

And, 440 miles down is not really “near Earth’s core”.

80 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:55:34am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

THAT’S RIGHT CUZ HITLER WAS GHEY-MARRIED TO EBERHARDT BRAUN BEFORE HE KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WAS TEH GHEY!

I’d like to ask them how the 1000 year Reich was supposed to work if all the Nazis were as they believe gay. But I always like to turn their logic on them and point out that heterosexual Christians far outnumbered gay non-Christians in the Third Reich and no one is using that as rationale for making that group second class citizens. That’s usually when they make some crap up about how gay marriage discriminates against them. They have no real valid argument against allowing gay couples the same equality under the law as heterosexual ones- only their own bigotry and bigotry should never be the basis for law.

81 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jun 13, 2014 11:56:51am

re: #66 Gus

Culture war whining from the people that want to oppress women, gays, Muslims, etc. Was thinking about adding atheists but they’re not oppressed since atheism is a mutable characteristic.

That depends. Yes, it’s possible to change one’s mind. But I don’t think it’s possible to believe something that one simply can’t believe.

82 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 11:58:53am
83 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 11:59:52am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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If you don’t want the right to be referenced in regards to bigotry, here’s a helpful tip. Stop acting like bigots. I’m looking at you, Tucker.

84 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:01:32pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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HURR HURR!!!! EVERYBUDY KNOWS TEH DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL BIGGOTS!!!!!!

85 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 12:02:06pm

re: #84 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! EVERYBUDY KNOWS TEH DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL BIGGOTS!!!!!!

HERE”S HOW THE TWO PARTIES WERE IN RECONSTRUCTION, SEE LIBTARD!

86 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 12:02:22pm
87 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:02:42pm

re:
#82

Hurr hurr teh Goooogle is BIASed!1 Boycot!!1

88 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 12:02:43pm

It’s sort of like looking at a bed of gypsum:

Image: Natural-Gypsum-Formation-2.jpg

and saying - ‘Oh, look at that pond of water.’

Chemistry - how does it work?

89 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 12:04:08pm

For the weather and science geeks, track lightning strikes in near real time.

blitzortung.org

Mesmerizing…

90 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 12:04:30pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I’d like to ask them how the 1000 year Reich was supposed to work if all the Nazis were as they believe gay. But I always like to turn their logic on them and point out that heterosexual Christians far outnumbered gay non-Christians in the Third Reich and no one is using that as rationale for making that group second class citizens. That’s usually when they make some crap up about how gay marriage discriminates against them. They have no real valid argument against allowing gay couples the same equality under the law as heterosexual ones- only their own bigotry and bigotry should never be the basis for law.

What the wingnuts mean be “being discriminated against” is being made to feel like they’re wrong. That society is moving away from them and their views and increasingly viewing them - and their ideas - as outmoded.

And they really hate that.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:04:35pm

Wow this is stupid.
WHY WOULD “KILLERS” COME TO YOUR HOUSE IN SEARCH OF FOOD? DO YOU HAVE THE ONLY FOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

92 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:04:46pm

re:
#74

Labrador only PURE conservative to fight the good fite against libtard McCarthy

93 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 12:04:58pm

Today has been a good World Cup day. Mexico beat Cameroon and now I’m watching a rematch of the 2010 Final as Spain takes on the Netherlands.

Dis gun be good. :D

94 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:06:24pm

When killers come to your house in search of food, they will not be asking kindly. Do yourself big favor: buy a gun. Get ready.

Get ready for what?

95 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:06:31pm

re: #93 Lidane

Today has been a good World Cup day. Mexico beat Cameroon and now I’m watching a rematch of the 2010 Final as Spain takes on the Netherlands.

Dis gun be good. :D

This is a sports thing I take it?

96 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:06:59pm

re: #94 Bulworth

When killers come to your house in search of food, they will not be asking kindly. Do yourself big favor: buy a gun. Get ready.

Get ready for what?

Zombie Apocalypse
Food=brains
SHOOT THE ZOMBIES!!!

97 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:07:41pm

re:
#91

This troubled heart wingnut needs moar hashtags. Also, too, TGDN will keep killers wanting fud away from your house. Confirmed. FACT.

98 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 12:07:43pm

re: #49 CuriousLurker

OT: Postman just brought my 1 kilo jar of Pakistani mango pickles. I don’t otherwise like mangoes, but these things nom, nom, nom… They’re chopped up and preserved in curry, spices, and oil. They’re spicy, but not hot and the flesh of the mangoes is very soft & kind of tangy-sour—a nice complement to the oil and strong curry flavor. The work great as a side dish or condiment.

They’re not gonna win any beauty pageants, but that’s okay as long as they taste good (excuse the somewhat blurry pic):

Mago pickles

Screw the culture wars—I have mango pickles and you guys don’t, so there. Time to go eat some… BBL

Those do sound good. The way you describe them, I could see doing something with lamb and using those as an accent, or perhaps as part of a sauce. We’ve got an international grocer not too far from the office, I’ll have to ask him next time I go down there about them.

RBS

99 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 12:08:04pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow this is stupid.
WHY WOULD “KILLERS” COME TO YOUR HOUSE IN SEARCH OF FOOD? DO YOU HAVE THE ONLY FOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

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Well, obviously she means poor, possibly melanin-enhanced people, who are by their very nature killers. Just like how undocumented immigrants are by their nature thieves, rapists, and murderers.

100 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:08:17pm

re: #96 Pie-onist Overlord

Zombie Apocalypse
Food=brains
SHOOT THE ZOMBIES!!!

Why would a zombie be looking for brains at TCOT household?

101 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:08:42pm

re:
#91

Note: The Purge is only a movie.

102 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 12:09:03pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow this is stupid.
WHY WOULD “KILLERS” COME TO YOUR HOUSE IN SEARCH OF FOOD? DO YOU HAVE THE ONLY FOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

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See, by “Killers” she means TEH BLAHS!!!.

103 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 12:09:23pm

Good afternoon. The waterfall-esque deluge from the sky that soaked me to the bone (despite the umbrella) on my morning commute is gone, and the sun has come out here in NYC.

So has the House called for Obama’s impeachment for “losing” Iraq yet?

104 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 12:09:38pm

re: #95 Kragar

This is a sports thing I take it?

Yep. Bunch of sweaty guys running up and down a soccer pitch for 90 minutes.

What I need to do is switch to the Spanish language networks. Those commentators are hilarious.

105 GeneJockey  Jun 13, 2014 12:10:51pm

re: #103 Ian G.

Good afternoon. The waterfall-esque deluge from the sky that soaked me to the bone (despite the umbrella) on my morning commute is gone, and the sun has come out here in NYC.

So has the House called for Obama’s impeachment for “losing” Iraq yet?

No, but it’s early yet.

106 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 12:11:04pm

re: #99 GeneJockey

Well, obviously she means poor, possibly melanin-enhanced people, who are by their very nature killers. Just like how undocumented immigrants are by their nature thieves, rapists, and murderers.

and don’t forget the calves the size of cantalopes…. can’t forget the calves.

107 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 12:11:13pm

Heh. Some glorious SAD DERP here.

108 Randall Gross  Jun 13, 2014 12:11:39pm

So if I knock on the door to borrow a cup of sugar I get shot? …

109 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:11:43pm

re: #104 Lidane

Yep. Bunch of sweaty guys running up and down a soccer pitch for 90 minutes.

What I need to do is switch to the Spanish language networks. Those commentators are hilarious.

Meh, supersquad competitions are more interesting

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:11:59pm

re: #100 Kragar

Why would a zombie be looking for brains at TCOT household?

LOL

111 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:12:25pm

re: #108 Randall Gross

So if I knock on the door to borrow a cup of sugar I get shot? …

GET YOUR OWN SUGAR HIPPIE!

112 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:12:27pm
113 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 12:12:33pm

BTW, I’m sure everyone is aware of the absurdity of the hawks who want us to do…something in Iraq AND Syria, but it’s helpful to think of it this way:

1) In Syria, join forces with the Sunni jihadists against the Shi’a government
2) In Iraq, join forces with the Shi’a government against the Sunni jihadists
3) Make sure you go to war with Iran too, no matter what they do.
4) PROFIT!!!!!

114 iossarian  Jun 13, 2014 12:13:02pm

re: #112 Pie-onist Overlord

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Deranged.

115 makeitstop  Jun 13, 2014 12:14:18pm

re: #112 Pie-onist Overlord

yal..that’s it…hoarding. share your last cracker before they shoot you for everything else you got.

I cannot imagine living at that level of fear. It’s gotta really suck.

116 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:14:45pm

clearly, we failed to babysit iraq properly with a permanent american occupation force large enough to intimidate everybody in a country of 32 million people

////do i have to?

after all, isn’t a permanent american military occupation of all oil islamic countries exactly what george bush described to us in 2003?

117 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:16:59pm

It’s Friday 13th and a Full Moon

118 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:17:20pm

the main thing about iraq is that bp and halliburton are gonna be pissed pissed pissed off if the oil processing profits get taken away from them yet again

and what happens then?

119 Killgore Trout  Jun 13, 2014 12:17:46pm

Finally someone confirms the Iran troops story
Iran sends forces to Iraq as ISIS militants press forward, official says

In recent days, Iran has sent about 500 Revolutionary Guard troops to fight alongside Iraqi government security forces in Diyala province, a senior security official in Baghdad told CNN.

120 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 12:17:56pm

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Some glorious SAD DERP here.

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Er, what exactly can’t we rely on our military to do anymore? If you were expecting it to turn a violently sectarian country into a Scandanavian welfare state, well, you might as well ask the Marines to breed you unicorns too.

121 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:20:30pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Finally someone confirms the Iran troops story
Iran sends forces to Iraq as ISIS militants press forward, official says

and what are a mere 500 troops gonna accomplish in the middle of that gigantic mess?

get killed, i think

122 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:21:00pm

re: #117 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s Friday 13th and a Full Moon

123 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 12:21:26pm

re: #120 Ian G.

Er, what exactly can’t we rely on our military to do anymore? If you were expecting it to turn a violently sectarian country into a Scandanavian welfare state, well, you might as well ask the Marines to breed you unicorns too.

Yeah. I guess that tweeter haz a sad because now TEH GHEYZ! and SKEERY MOOZLIMS!! and whatever other paranoid delusion he or she can come up with is in the military, which means of course, they’ll ZOMG! MASSAKER THE GOOD WHITE CHRISTIAN ‘MERICAN PATRIOTZ!!!

124 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 13, 2014 12:23:36pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow this is stupid.
WHY WOULD “KILLERS” COME TO YOUR HOUSE IN SEARCH OF FOOD? DO YOU HAVE THE ONLY FOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD?

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Yeah, much better to be known as the house containing more guns than people, because in the event of the complete societal collapse that these idiots always fantasize about, absolutely nobody would be looking to pry your guns out of your cold, dead fingers.

125 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:24:38pm

re:
#124

True dat.

126 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 12:25:10pm

re: #120 Ian G.

Er, what exactly can’t we rely on our military to do anymore? If you were expecting it to turn a violently sectarian country into a Scandanavian welfare state, well, you might as well ask the Marines to breed you unicorns too.

Am I the only one amused by the irony of the same AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! cheerleaders who wanted us to invade, turn Iraq into a parking lot then leave them to their new freedom now demanding that we turn Iraq into a peaceful utopia?

127 piratedan  Jun 13, 2014 12:25:42pm

geez, you would have thought that the GOP (of all semi/mildly interested parties) would have been on board with the “let them kill each other and let the almighty sort it out” tack that the President is taking but I guess ODS is stronger than any long held political truths that this party used to adhere to.

128 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:26:21pm

re: #124 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Yeah, much better to be known as the house containing more guns than people, because in the event of the complete societal collapse that these idiots always fantasize about, absolutely nobody would be looking to pry your guns out of your cold, dead fingers.

A house full of guns? Say hello to a tire fire.

Now we wait.

129 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 12:26:47pm
130 Killgore Trout  Jun 13, 2014 12:26:55pm

re: #121 dog philosopher

and what are a mere 500 troops gonna accomplish in the middle of that gigantic mess?

get killed, i think

I think the estimates that ISIS has only 800 troops might be a bit low but Iran has been fighting ISIS in Syria for years. They might know what they’re doing.

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:26:55pm

That crazy person has 24,000 followers.

132 Jayleia  Jun 13, 2014 12:27:56pm

re: #127 piratedan

I think part of the GOP’s reasoning is that we can kill melanin-enhanced people faster than other melanin-enhanced people…and maybe get the other group of melanin-enhanced people too.

I wish I was //

133 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 13, 2014 12:28:00pm

re: #128 Kragar

A house full of guns? Say hello to a tire fire.

Now we wait.

Strange minds think alike. Tire fire was the first thing that came to mind. Hmm.

134 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:28:39pm

Wow this timeline is full of Teh Bad Crazy

135 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:28:54pm

Listen up: just because someone arms himself and goes to a school and shoots people doesn’t mean that is a ‘school shooting’. It means that there was a shooting at a school. And a ‘shooting at a school’ is not a very serious thing even if someone or many someones are teh killed by the person not by the gun which don’t kill nobody.

136 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 12:29:05pm

re: #129 lawhawk

Dear Princess Dumbass,

Please proceed.

No love,
Me

137 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:29:27pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

That crazy person has 24,000 followers.

And supposedly follows 23k people as well.

Youtube Video

Thats what you get for joining the TGDN, a guaranteed follower base full of idiots talking at each other

138 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:29:57pm

re: #127 piratedan

geez, you would have thought that the GOP (of all semi/mildly interested parties) would have been on board with the “let them kill each other and let the almighty sort it out” tack that the President is taking but I guess ODS is stronger than any long held political truths that this party used to adhere to.

oil

139 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:30:19pm

re: #133 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Strange minds think alike. Tire fire was the first thing that came to mind. Hmm.

Smoking out the enemy is always a classic

140 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 12:30:26pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I think the estimates that ISIS has only 800 troops might be a bit low but Iran has been fighting ISIS in Syria for years. They might know what they’re doing.

They aren’t any better at fighting an insurgency than the next. Those ISIS militant/terrorists have been fighting in Syria for the last 2+ years, and are using the porous border to flow into Iraq. 500 Iranian troops is barely sufficient to patrol a decent sized town in the throes of an insurgency, let alone hold thousands of square miles (because how many of those troops are actually going to be patrolling versus the supply chain back to Iran).

141 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 12:31:15pm

And retweeted this from Todd Kincannon. (WARNING: It’s Todd Kincannon. click at your own risk.)

142 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:32:21pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I think the estimates that ISIS has only 800 troops might be a bit low but Iran has been fighting ISIS in Syria for years. They might know what they’re doing.

well it appears that this effort has been somewhat less than fully successful

143 Killgore Trout  Jun 13, 2014 12:32:53pm

ISIS’s Secret Allies
The Iraqi extremist group didn’t conquer a major chunk of the country on their own. They had help - from ex-Saddamites, tribal councils, and other militants.

All eyes have been on ISIS as the jihadist group, in a matter of days, cut Iraq in half and declared its own state in the cities it captured. With fewer than 10,000 fighters ISIS forced the retreat of the better-armed Iraqi army forces many times its size. Their incredible success on the battlefield has fed into a growing lore about the group: the small band of fanatics that can take down a country. The truth is more basic and it’s something ISIS doesn’t want to admit—they weren’t acting alone.

144 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:33:18pm

re:
#141

Know what Democrats do after total chaos starts. They run away to another city like they did in Detroit. No one really knows them..again.

what the what?

145 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:34:51pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

I think the estimates that ISIS has only 800 troops might be a bit low but Iran has been fighting ISIS in Syria for years. They might know what they’re doing.

I believe they meant 800 troops in that engagement, not 800 total fighters for the entire organization

146 Killgore Trout  Jun 13, 2014 12:35:11pm

re: #142 dog philosopher

well it appears that this effort has been somewhat less than fully successful

The Iranians might have more luck now they can work from both sides of the Syria-Iraq border. I’m not sure if the Iraqis will be as brutal as Assad, we’ll have to wait and see how this goes.

147 Killgore Trout  Jun 13, 2014 12:35:52pm

re: #145 Kragar

I believe they meant 800 troops in that engagement, not 800 total fighters for the entire organization

see #143

148 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 12:37:17pm

re: #129 lawhawk

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Yes… Please. I think that you should help lead a new party, a party of the true conservatives. Gather your like minded people with you, and strike off into obscurity and inconsequence. America is Waiting….

RBS

149 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:38:58pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

ISIS’s Secret Allies
The Iraqi extremist group didn’t conquer a major chunk of the country on their own. They had help - from ex-Saddamites, tribal councils, and other militants.

well exactly. now you have a clear explanation as to how a token iranian force of 500 is likely to be overwhelmed

150 klys  Jun 13, 2014 12:39:55pm

re: #149 dog philosopher

well exactly. now you have a clear explanation as to how a token iranian force of 500 is likely to be overwhelmed

maybe, maybe not.

///

151 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 12:41:12pm

Are we sure this is the real World Cup? I don’t see any vuvuzela. They told me “Come to the Dark Side, we have vuvuzelas”

RBS

152 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 12:41:57pm

re: #151 RealityBasedSteve

They were banned.

154 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:42:52pm

i read an article this morning on how al maliki has totally shut out the sunnis and the kurds

nobody in dc felt this was important enough to talk about

155 lockjawcanbefun  Jun 13, 2014 12:43:24pm

re: #26 FemNaziBitch

Fox is on the TV dial here, but it is part of a secondary news package. We don’t need it, since we’ve got our own right wing noise network with the unwatchable Sun News Network. Fortunately, that network gets ratings that rival test patterns.

156 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 12:43:31pm

re: #152 lawhawk

They were banned.

then #vuvuzelaGulagDefenseNetwork

158 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 12:45:18pm

re: #155 lockjawcanbefun

Fox is on the TV dial here, but it is part of a secondary news package. We don’t need it, since we’ve got our own right wing noise network with the unwatchable Sun News Network. Fortunately, that network gets ratings that rival test patterns.

Any relation to the British tabloid The Sun? Of Page Three girls notoriety?

159 sagehen  Jun 13, 2014 12:47:17pm

re: #100 Kragar

Why would a zombie be looking for brains at TCOT household?

Fresh in the wrapping, never been used…

160 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:49:57pm
161 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 12:51:27pm

re:
#141

So today like yesterday and day before: please go buy gun to protect your family and friends. Wake up. Obama would love Iraq in USA.
#tcot — Anna Teresa Arnold

—-

Let your hearts be very troubled indeed. BUY MOAR GUNZ*

*even if you don’t ever need it, or even if the gun you buy ends up as someone’s murder weapon, you will have helped the gun industry out a lot and that means freedoms.

162 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 12:51:32pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

ICYMI :(

Repo man dies after Virginia truck owner ‘accidentally’ shoots him — twice

Yea…. that’s gonna fly. The only thing stopping a good guy from doing his job is some trigger happy idiot with a gun. He shot a guy in tow truck. I don’t think that most car thiefs actually roll up with a tow.

RBS

163 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 13, 2014 12:51:40pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

ISIS’s Secret Allies
The Iraqi extremist group didn’t conquer a major chunk of the country on their own. They had help - from ex-Saddamites, tribal councils, and other militants.

This underscores how amazingly, utterly wrong you were in your blithe statement a few weeks ago that Iraq didn’t have serious ethnic-religious conflict.

164 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 12:54:00pm

Party of Small Government and Individual Liberty:

165 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 12:54:49pm

*sigh*

That was a beautiful goal a few minutes ago. Too bad it was the wrong team scoring. :(

166 lockjawcanbefun  Jun 13, 2014 12:56:30pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

The newspaper, which is directly related, has got Page 3 girls, but there’s no other relation to the Brit tabloid other than the name.

167 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 12:56:51pm

This is the old gang of mine.

The imam has a great voice for Qur’an recitation.

livestream.com

168 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 12:57:27pm

Just as German society demonized Jews for years before the Nazis took power, Beck warned that this nation “has been watering some seeds” for nearly ten years to condition Americans to accept that “there are those enemies of the president that need to be punished.”

Obama has been POTUS for nearly 10 years?

169 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 12:59:52pm

re: #168 Kragar

Glenn Beck Warns Obama Is About To

im sure this will happen right after inflation goes through the roof because of how obama has been printing money recklessly

170 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:00:09pm

re: #168 Kragar

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Obama has been POTUS for nearly 10 years?

I’d say Glenn Beck is about to snap, but I’m pretty sure that happened years ago.

171 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 1:01:46pm

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

I’d say Glenn Beck is about to snap, but I’m pretty sure that happened years ago.

There will be tears….

RBS

172 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 1:01:50pm

All Bush Era NeoCons Volunteer En Masse To Go Fight ISIS In Person, Including The Entire Cheney Family

no they didnt

173 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 1:02:40pm

re: #168 Kragar

Mr. Beck is projecting again. We all know he has a lengthy list of ‘undesirables’ he and his ilk would send off to death camps as soon as it becomes politically possible to do so.

174 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 13, 2014 1:03:08pm

re: #78 freetoken

Wrong headline of the day:

Study: Vast Underground Ocean Discovered Near Earth’s Core

That is very misleading. The “water” isn’t really water but rather hydroxide ions, part of Ringwoodite.

It’s not an ocean, it’s a rock. The rock can change as it moves upwards, and eventually the hydroxide ions can separate and form water that can then reach the surface through lava flows, volcanoes, and such.

Many silly headlines on this one today.

The original paper is here:

sciencemag.org

So basically it’s all dunnite and associated ultramafic rock. I thought as much.

175 Romantic Heretic  Jun 13, 2014 1:04:46pm

re: #26 FemNaziBitch

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Really? Canada is looking better and better.

We do have a FOX equivalent: Sun News. But so few people watch it that they tried to pressure the CRTC, that’s the Canadian equivalent of the FCC, to force cable companies to include Sun News in their packages.

It didn’t work. I gather the ‘network’ is failing.

You might want to wait until the next federal election to come to Canada. If Our Dear Leader gets a majority in the next one we might not have any more elections for a while.

176 jaunte  Jun 13, 2014 1:06:35pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

The racists are really going to town on that Daily Caller comment thread.

177 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 1:06:42pm

re: #129 lawhawk

I almost literally spit out my coffee. The denunciations of her as a RINO traitor will begin soon.

178 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:09:02pm

re: #168 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Obama has been POTUS for nearly 10 years?

Well consider the source…
politifact.com

179 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 1:09:52pm

re: #177 Ian G.

I almost literally spit out my coffee. The denunciations of her as a RINO traitor will begin soon.

eventually all republicans will have their own personal party, which will be the only true conservative party

180 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:10:58pm

re: #179 dog philosopher

eventually all republicans will have their own personal party, which will be the only true conservative party

And in each of their minds, they’ll win in a landslide election!!

181 Romantic Heretic  Jun 13, 2014 1:11:14pm

re: #39 GeneJockey

“Culture War” is a MBF term designed to hide the fact that you have groups of people demanding their rights, and others who fight to deny those rights. “Culture War” makes it sound like “Both Sides Do It”, and plays into the idea that not being able to deny others the rights you enjoy is the same as having your own rights infringed.

The way I look at it is one side (non-whites, women, LGBT people etc.) gathered under the title of liberal are looking to get the rights that are ensured to them under the Constitution.

The other side, claiming to be conservatives, are fighting to ensure that power stays in their hands.

When the left talks, it talks about rights and freedom. When the right talks, it talks about power and denying it to those they deem unworthy.

182 KerFuFFler  Jun 13, 2014 1:15:16pm

re: #172 dog philosopher

All Bush Era NeoCons Volunteer En Masse To Go Fight ISIS In Person, Including The Entire Cheney Family

no they didnt

I still seethe when I remember the clip of Cheney opining during the first Gulf War that it was a bad idea to go into Baghdad because it would be “a quagmire.” But then when sweet-talking America into the second Gulf War, suddenly it was going to be a piece of cake. They would greet us as liberators and it would not cost us a cent because, oil….

Then when defending the management of the war he said things like, “How could anyone have known….? Blah, blah, blah.”

If anything called out for a freakin’ congressional investigation it would be the former administration’s handling of the run up to the war. Benghazi is a minor pimple in the scheme of things compared to the systemic gangrenous rot that is the Iraq War. Karma demands that Cheney be water-boarded.

183 Romantic Heretic  Jun 13, 2014 1:17:14pm

re: #89 lawhawk

For the weather and science geeks, track lightning strikes in near real time.

blitzortung.org

Mesmerizing…

Cool!

184 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:24:59pm

re: #66 Gus

Culture war whining from the people that want to oppress women, gays, Muslims, etc. Was thinking about adding atheists but they’re not oppressed since atheism is a mutable characteristic.

Islam too.

185 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 1:31:45pm

re: #177 Ian G.

I almost literally spit out my coffee. The denunciations of her as a RINO traitor will begin soon.

There will be those who think she’s the one true GOPer, and everyone else is a RINO. No doubt she truly will be a splitter (Judean People’s Front v People’s Front of Judea).

But it once again shows that the GOP has no interest in big tent issues, or addressing the fact that they’re going for an ideological purge.


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