Not This Guy Again

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Remember this guy?

Mitt Romney poses with anti-Muslim hate group leader Pamela Geller

Yes, he’s popping up again like a malevolent right wing jack-in-the-box, predictably calling President Obama all kinds of names and boasting about how he would have solved everything by… well, he actually never gets around to saying how he would do that.

I’m guessing it involves WAR, the all-purpose Republican response to foreign policy issues.

Mitt Romney Slams Leadership of Clinton, Obama at Donor meeting:

“He and his people will try to hide from their record,” Romney said. “Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday that some world leaders ‘may not be happy’ when they read her new book,” Romney said, adding that she singled out Putin.

“Please,” Romney said. “This from the woman who was gushing with smiles when she presented his minion with her red reset button.” …

“Jihadism and extremism are surging and on the rise in the Middle East and Africa. The Taliban is not defeated in Afghanistan,” Romney said as he spoke to his former donors in a theater-in-the-round setting. “And tragically, all that we fought for in Iraq, all that 4,500 American lives were shed to gain, is on the cusp of vanishing.”

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215 comments
1 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 13, 2014 1:05:38pm

Mittins is right there with angry grandpa Mccain.

More war. War is. War can never end.

2 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:06:02pm

He’s running again.

3 qubit2020  Jun 13, 2014 1:06:12pm

Can’t Mitt do something remotely positive with all the time and money at his disposal? Make the world a better place in some small way? What a waste of humanity.

4 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 13, 2014 1:06:49pm

A lot of people, after the brief success of the ‘surge’ in stabilizing things militarily in Iraq, decided that Iraq was solved and everything was good. And they promptly stopped paying much attention to Iraq, and so they didn’t notice the endemic corruption, the increased sectarianism on the government’s part, and especially the breakdown in the justice system that saw many people disappeared and tortured.

Iraq’s government, despite what people like McCain and Romney need to tell themselves, was never stable, was never ‘won’.

5 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 13, 2014 1:06:50pm

FWIW… I don’t think that’s red-eye caused by the flash reflecting. I think it’s actually a photo showing the evil and hatred burning in her soul.

RBS

6 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:07:57pm

After all the Romney family sacrificed in back in the 2003 invasion and subsequent occupation and his leading the way with his multistep plan for peace in the Middle East, you just knew Mitt was going to take the news coming out of of Iraq hard.
/

7 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 1:08:33pm

Bitter, twice-rejected plutocrat says what?

Can’t he just buy himself a 24-karat solid gold commode and go stick his head in it?

8 b.d.  Jun 13, 2014 1:08:40pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

He’s running again.

He can’t, he’s the same age as Hillary which as I’ve been told, is too old to be president.

//

9 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 1:09:32pm

REED mah Buk: NO APLogies!!!1

10 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:09:40pm

Vietnam war veteran and military expert, Mitt Romney. Oops, wait.

11 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 1:10:03pm

Romney will almost certainly be running in 2016.

12 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:10:31pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Romney will almost certainly be running in 2016.

Angry mobs have that effect on people

13 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 13, 2014 1:11:06pm
“This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence.War is god.”

Mitt Romney The Judge, Blood Meridian

14 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 1:11:09pm

re: #12 Kragar

Angry mobs have that effect on people

Well done.

15 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 1:12:07pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Romney will almost certainly be running in 2016.

After Rand Paul, Ted Cruz & the rest of the Tea Party eat each other, he thinks he’ll be the Last Man Standing.

Then he’ll have to duke it out with Chris Christie and Jeb Bush.

16 Bulworth  Jun 13, 2014 1:12:45pm

re:
#11

Not sure why. He’s already perfected the art of cutting off the credit of the help before the concession speech has sang.

17 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:12:58pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Romney will almost certainly be running in 2016.

I can’t even imagine that; but then again, I’m sane.

18 Shazam  Jun 13, 2014 1:14:10pm

I prefer the crushed, defeated Romney who could barely speak a word or comb his hair. Time truly does heal all wounds.

19 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jun 13, 2014 1:14:33pm
“The good news is that we have a volunteer Army and that’s the way we’re going to keep it,” Romney told some 200 people gathered in an abbey near the Mississippi River that had been converted into a hotel. “My sons are all adults and they’ve made decisions about their careers and they’ve chosen not to serve in the military and active duty and I respect their decision in that regard.”

He added: “One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I’d be a great president.”

Mitt Romney, 2007

War is for the 47% moochers.

/

20 gwangung  Jun 13, 2014 1:15:15pm

Isn’t he the moron who offended an ally while trying to praise them?

And made a major foreign policy speech using countries that hadn’t been in existence for at least ten years?

Please proceed. MORON.

21 blueraven  Jun 13, 2014 1:16:49pm

Live press conference on Bergdahl condition from SA military hospital.
On CNN now.

22 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 1:17:03pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Romney will almost certainly be running in 2016.

Please proceed.

23 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 1:17:13pm

Meanwhile:

24 b.d.  Jun 13, 2014 1:18:50pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Romney will almost certainly be running in 2016.

DAVE BRAT FOR PRESIDENT!!!

25 MomSense  Jun 13, 2014 1:19:41pm
Remember this guy?

How can we forget him if he never goes away??

26 nines09  Jun 13, 2014 1:20:15pm

Mr. Empty Suit and Ms. Hate Inc. Tag Team Stupid.

27 Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2014 1:20:27pm

I really do wonder how a guy with such poor memory as Willard demonstrates ever made it anywhere in the business world. I thought you had to be a pretty smart guy to be the head a major corporation.

///

28 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:20:41pm

re: #24 b.d.

DAVE BRAT FOR PRESIDENT!!!

NEVER, YOU HERETIC!! CRUZ/GOHMERT 2016!!.

I can think of almost nothing that would be more derpalicious.

29 nines09  Jun 13, 2014 1:22:07pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

I really do wonder how a guy with such poor memory as Willard demonstrates ever made it anywhere in the business world. I thought you had to be a pretty smart guy to be the head a major corporation.

///

He’s like the Tooled Leather Horn on a saddle. The stuff underneath does all the work and the horn just looks important.

30 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:22:43pm

re: #25 MomSense

How can we forget him if he never goes away??

Absence makes the heart grow fonder
So I never want to see you again…

-X, “How I (Learned My Lesson)”

31 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 1:22:58pm

i don t think the democratic party will be lucky enough to face mittens as the nominee in 2016

that s asking too muchly

32 Jayleia  Jun 13, 2014 1:28:50pm

re: #31 dog philosopher

Actually…I wouldn’t put it past them…and given the current batch of geniuses and paragons of virtue that they have, his primary slogan could be

“I’m Mitt Romney, and I’m the ONLY chance you fuckers have”

And he’d probably be right.

33 KerFuFFler  Jun 13, 2014 1:29:23pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

He’s running again.

My gut feeling is to down-ding that out of utter revulsion———but it’s not your fault, so I won’t. :)

34 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 1:30:01pm

re: #8 b.d.

He can’t, he’s the same age as Hillary which as I’ve been told, is too old to be president.

//

35 MomSense  Jun 13, 2014 1:30:29pm

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

Ha! Or as my grandma used to say “Come again when you can’t stay so long”

36 Kid A  Jun 13, 2014 1:31:13pm
37 Ace-o-aces  Jun 13, 2014 1:31:40pm

You know what, let the GOP make a new Iraq war part of their platform.
“Hey America, you remember that war in Iraq where all the crazy extremists tried to kill each other and us and we wasted over a trillion dollars and lost thousands of lives ? Let’s do that again!”

38 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 1:32:16pm

Where is William of Orange???

39 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:33:14pm
40 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:33:37pm

re: #35 MomSense

Ha! Or as my grandma used to say “Come again when you can’t stay so long”

lol

I’ll have to remember that.

41 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 1:33:58pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Where is William of Orange???

Busy cheering the Netherlands, probably. They’re currently in the middle of beating Spain like a red-headed stepchild. It’s embarrassing.

42 Kid A  Jun 13, 2014 1:34:22pm

re: #39 Kragar

Only seven??!!

43 lawhawk  Jun 13, 2014 1:34:54pm

re: #4 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

A lot of people, after the brief success of the ‘surge’ in stabilizing things militarily in Iraq, decided that Iraq was solved and everything was good. And they promptly stopped paying much attention to Iraq, and so they didn’t notice the endemic corruption, the increased sectarianism on the government’s part, and especially the breakdown in the justice system that saw many people disappeared and tortured.

Iraq’s government, despite what people like McCain and Romney need to tell themselves, was never stable, was never ‘won’.

It was stable enough that the US wouldn’t keep hemorrhaging troops (which was enough for the politicians to claim victory, or at least honorable exit under the circumstances). But without the SOFA, the US backstop left, and the Iraqi forces have shown that they were not interested in protecting a government many saw as not protecting their interests, was more interested in sectarian gain (or violence), and did little to improve the economic plight of most Iraqis.

44 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 1:35:03pm

re: #41 Lidane

Busy cheering the Netherlands, probably. They’re currently in the middle of beating Spain like a red-headed stepchild. It’s embarrassing.

Oh I’m a-watching!

45 Kid A  Jun 13, 2014 1:35:06pm

re: #41 Lidane

Pardon the pun. Go Dutch!!!!

46 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 1:35:48pm

Former state party Vice Chairman Robin Armstrong of Friendswood moderated a panel discussion on minority outreach.

He remembered Said as a “very appealing, nice, polite young lady.”

“I had to tell her,” he said a little sheepishly, “that I don’t know of much Muslim outreach.”

He mentioned the party’s scattered Muslim precinct chairs, which would include Southlake City Council member Shahid Shafi, the target of Haussmann’s wrath.

Armstrong used the word Islamists. He said: “I use Muslims and Islamists interchangeably. I thought they meant the same thing.”

Uh — no.

(Might be a good topic for the next minority outreach.)

47 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 1:39:47pm

(LOLSPAIN.)

48 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 1:40:21pm

re: #45 Kid A

Pardon the pun. Go Dutch!!!!

Ha, they certainly are! Such a contrast to Mexico/Cameroon.

49 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:40:37pm

The point about the reset button is beyond dumb. Should the US have tried to be the bad cop? For what purpose? Sure, Putin eventually shitted all over this gesture of goodwill, but that’s the point - he did, not Obama or Hillary. And the latter did everything right in that case, unlike, say, Bush, who looked into Putin’s eyes and saw his beautiful soul. I don’t remember the wingnuts complaining about that.

What’s Romney’s idea of diplomacy anyway?

50 blueraven  Jun 13, 2014 1:40:51pm

re: #4 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

A lot of people, after the brief success of the ‘surge’ in stabilizing things militarily in Iraq, decided that Iraq was solved and everything was good. And they promptly stopped paying much attention to Iraq, and so they didn’t notice the endemic corruption, the increased sectarianism on the government’s part, and especially the breakdown in the justice system that saw many people disappeared and tortured.

Iraq’s government, despite what people like McCain and Romney need to tell themselves, was never stable, was never ‘won’.

Al-Maliki was always a stooge for the Iranians.

Fareed Zakaria: Who lost Iraq? The Iraqis did, with an assist from George W. Bush

The insurgency the Maliki government faces today was utterly predictable because, in fact, it happened before. From 2003 onward, Iraq faced a Sunni insurgency that was finally tamped down by Gen. David Petraeus, who said explicitly at the time that the core element of his strategy was political, bringing Sunni tribes and militias into the fold. The surge’s success, he often noted, bought time for a real power-sharing deal in Iraq that would bring the Sunnis into the structure of the government.

A senior official closely involved with Iraq in the Bush administration told me, “Not only did Maliki not try to do broad power-sharing, he reneged on all the deals that had been made, stopped paying the Sunni tribes and militias, and started persecuting key Sunni officials.” Among those targeted were the vice president of Iraq and its finance minister.

I would have preferred to see a small American force in Iraq to try to prevent the country’s collapse. But let’s remember why this force is not there. Maliki refused to provide the guarantees that every other country in the world that hosts U.S. forces offers. Some commentators have blamed the Obama administration for negotiating badly or halfheartedly and perhaps this is true. But here’s what a senior Iraqi politician told me in the days when the U.S. withdrawal was being discussed: “It will not happen. Maliki cannot allow American troops to stay on. Iran has made very clear to Maliki that its No. 1 demand is that there be no American troops remaining in Iraq. And Maliki owes them.” He reminded me that Maliki spent 24 years in exile, most of them in Tehran and Damascus, and his party was funded by Iran for most of its existence. And in fact, Maliki’s government has followed policies that have been pro-Iranian and pro-Syrian.

51 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:41:06pm

re: #46 Lidane

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At one time, Muslim Americans were considered a relatively reliable GOP voting bloc. They tend towards social conservatism and a good many of them are entrepreneurs. In the 80s, I can recall quite a few Muslim Americans proudly noting they voted for President Reagan; one chap I knew, a business owner, even proudly displayed a photo of him and President Reagan.

Way to go, GOP. Keep up the good work - if their track record holds, pretty soon they’ll have 100% of that ancient, rural white Christian fundamentalist vote!

And precious little else.

52 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 1:41:11pm

re: #41 Lidane

Busy cheering the Netherlands, probably. They’re currently in the middle of beating Spain like a red-headed stepchild. It’s embarrassing.

Well, this would only be my 2nd favorite stunning Dutch upset. When they beat the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic a few years back, that was amazing.

Of course, this is a slightly bigger stage….

53 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 1:41:15pm

Ever notice that the only cars with those super-annoying car alarms any more are the cars nobody would ever want to steal?

54 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 1:41:16pm
55 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 1:41:32pm

Go home, Spain. You’re drunk.

56 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 1:42:12pm

Article advocates covert boots on the ground:

This is new to me:

The U.S. can fly electronic warfare platforms that will shut down any improvised explosive devices that threaten U.S. personnel.

57 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:42:25pm

re: #49 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

The point about the reset button is beyond dumb. Should the US have tried to be the bad cop? For what purpose? Sure, Putin eventually shitted all over this gesture of goodwill, but that’s the point - he did, not Obama or Hillary. And the latter did everything right in that case, unlike, say, Bush, who looked into Putin’s eyes and saw his beautiful soul. I don’t remember the wingnuts complaining about that.

What’s Romney’s idea of diplomacy anyway?

Being an asshole like John Bolton?

58 Kid A  Jun 13, 2014 1:42:36pm

re: #52 Ian G.

That was huge. I had no idea the Dutch even liked baseball let alone knew how to play it until then.

59 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:43:18pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

Article advocates covert boots on the ground:

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This is new to me:

Caruso is one of those guys like Max Fisher, Michael Weiss and Josh Rogin.

60 b.d.  Jun 13, 2014 1:43:57pm

re: #55 Lidane

Go home, Spain. You’re drunk.

Asskicking

61 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:44:00pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Ever notice that the only cars with those super-annoying car alarms any more are the cars nobody would ever want to steal?

I notice the only time I want to vandalize a car is when they have an annoying car alarm.

62 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 1:44:01pm
63 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 1:44:11pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

This is new to me:

The U.S. can fly electronic warfare platforms that will shut down any improvised explosive devices that threaten U.S. personnel.

It’s new to you because it is not true.

More accurately, it’s a hugely sweeping overstatement. Anything wired, or just plain booby-trapped, is completely immune to such measures.

64 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 1:44:26pm

re: #58 Kid A

That was huge. I had no idea the Dutch even liked baseball let alone knew how to play it until then.

Well, most “Dutch” baseball players are actually from Caribbean territories like Aruba and Curacao, but Hall of Fame pitcher Bert Blyleven was from the Netherlands proper. And a guy named Rick Vanden Hurk who had a cup of coffee in the majors a few years back.

But you’re right, it ain’t exactly the DR or Cuba or Japan when it comes to baseball fanaticism.

65 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 1:44:31pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Ever notice that the only cars with those super-annoying car alarms any more are the cars nobody would ever want to steal?

My paranoid neighbor. 10 year old truck.

66 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:44:34pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

Article advocates covert boots on the ground:

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This is new to me:

Its new to anyone who has a brain.

67 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 1:45:08pm

re: #59 Gus

Caruso is one of those guys like Max Fisher, Michael Weiss and Josh Rogin.

In what way?

68 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 1:47:22pm

Heh.

69 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:47:48pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

In what way?

They’re like these neo-hawks.

70 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 1:47:56pm

Spain has a better chance of coming back to beat the Dutch than a US intervention would have of improving the present situation in Iraq.

71 ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2014 1:48:02pm

And we all thought we had enough Bush and Clinton candidates. At least they were/are different Bush and Clinton individuals.

This is the same old Romney. Way past the best-by date.

72 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:48:31pm

I’m surprised they haven’t come up with the “if you don’t support boots on the ground in Iraq you must hate Israel” bullshit like they love doing.

73 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:48:35pm
74 Rightwingconspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:48:47pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Ever notice that the only cars with those super-annoying car alarms any more are the cars nobody would ever want to steal?

What I remember is what a creepy sound countless thousands of cars made after the 1989 Loma Prieta. These days not so much.

75 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:48:55pm

re: #72 Gus

I’m surprised they haven’t come up with the “if you don’t support boots on the ground in Iraq you must hate Israel” bullshit like they love doing.

Its early yet

76 goddamnedfrank  Jun 13, 2014 1:49:05pm

re: #4 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

A lot of people, after the brief success of the ‘surge’ in stabilizing things militarily in Iraq, decided that Iraq was solved and everything was good. And they promptly stopped paying much attention to Iraq, and so they didn’t notice the endemic corruption, the increased sectarianism on the government’s part, and especially the breakdown in the justice system that saw many people disappeared and tortured.

Iraq’s government, despite what people like McCain and Romney need to tell themselves, was never stable, was never ‘won’.

When you look at the timeline of “the Surge” it’s also clear that Bush used it to take credit for work done primarily by the Sunni Awakening Councils. Many of those same groups are now helping ISIS because Maliki froze them out of power, preferring to promote and appoint people primarily within his own Shia base of support.

77 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:49:31pm

re: #72 Gus

Wait, the day is young…/

78 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 1:49:47pm
79 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 1:52:24pm
80 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:52:35pm

re: #77 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

Wait, the day is young…/

Favorite of the “Class of 2004.” :D :D :D

81 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 1:52:36pm

re: #71 ObserverArt

And we all thought we had enough Bush and Clinton candidates. At least they were/are different Bush and Clinton individuals.

This is the same old Romney. Way past the best-by date.

If Romney really does run again in 2016, he’s going to become the Lyndon LaRouche of the GOP.

The perpetual candidate.

82 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:53:08pm

Just going to drop this here…

83 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:55:15pm

re: #82 Kragar

Just going to drop this here…

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Hahahaha!

84 nines09  Jun 13, 2014 1:55:26pm

re: #82 Kragar

Just going to drop this here…

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Someone might step in it.

85 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 1:56:05pm

re: #82 Kragar

Just going to drop this here…

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Retweeted.

86 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 1:56:21pm
87 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 1:56:49pm

I WANNA KISS FROM MILEY!

88 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 1:56:50pm

Boink.

Well, actually.

89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 13, 2014 1:57:41pm

re: #82 Kragar

Just going to drop this here…

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You know what? Let him have all the credit for the end result.

90 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 1:57:48pm

as a young man, he “never would have dreamed” that some day he would be in a position to hinder the entire American lawmaking process and completely neuter dozens of bills. “Of course, I’m disappointed because I thought I had many more years of impeding accomplishments ahead of me, and I’ll be the first to admit that I never quite managed to stall environmental policies as much as I would have liked. But at the end of the day, I’m very proud of how I helped Congress accomplish so little during my time in office.”

91 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 1:59:40pm

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

If Romney really does run again in 2016, he’s going to become the Lyndon LaRouche of the GOP.

The perpetual candidate.

GOP establishment vs. the GOP base should be interesting in 2016. If the nuts can unite behind a true believer, that should suffice to win the nomination. The establishment knows this, and will most likely pick one and try for a repeat of 2012. However, I can’t imagine the establishment picking Romney again. They will have a better chance in both primary and general with any random suit they can pass off as a generic Republican.

So if Romney does run in 2016, it would pretty much have to be as one of the nuts, which would be greatly entertaining. Lyndon LaRouche indeed.

92 ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2014 2:01:48pm

re: #26 nines09

Mr. Empty Suit and Ms. Hate Inc. Tag Team Stupid.

Hey…leave the kid out of this!!!

Oh wait…his name is spelled Tagg.

/

93 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 2:04:13pm
94 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 13, 2014 2:04:20pm

Mitt. GFY. Sideways. It’s your damn party and way of thinking that got us into that Iraq mess to begin with. You cite the 4,500 victims who lost their lives for some neocon experiment that has gone terribly wrong, as predicted by everyone outside of your little clique, and you have the audacity to pin this on Obama? Sorry pal. Fuck off.

95 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 2:04:45pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

GOP establishment vs. the GOP base should be interesting in 2016. If the nuts can unite behind a true believer, that should suffice to win the nomination. The establishment knows this, and will most likely pick one and try for a repeat of 2012. However, I can’t imagine the establishment picking Romney again. They will have a better chance in both primary and general with any random suit they can pass off as a generic Republican.

So if Romney does run in 2016, it would pretty much have to be as one of the nuts, which would be greatly entertaining. Lyndon LaRouche indeed.

It’ll be interesting to see if the wingnuts can unify behind one candidate early. They might, and I could see Ted Cruz as being acceptable enough to the majority of the Teahadis to pass muster.

96 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:05:06pm
97 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 13, 2014 2:05:18pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Was reading up on that yesterday. I bet we would have blamed it on the Soviets. WAR WAR WAR WAR.

98 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 2:06:11pm

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

It’ll be interesting to see if the wingnuts can unify behind one candidate early. They might, and I could see Ted Cruz as being acceptable enough to the majority of the Teahadis to pass muster.

I don’t see why not. The Teahadis unified behind five or six candidates early last cycle, discarding each in turn after they opened their mouth and derp flew out.

99 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 2:07:06pm
100 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 2:07:26pm
101 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:09:15pm

re: #98 Testy Toad T

I don’t see why not. The Teahadis unified behind five or six candidates early last cycle, discarding each in turn after they opened their mouth and derp flew out.

The solution is obvious. Derping by true believers can no longer be a disqualification in GOP primaries. //

102 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:09:17pm
103 gwangung  Jun 13, 2014 2:09:25pm

re: #82 Kragar

Just going to drop this here…

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If the troops have been gone for four years…how has it the fault of the US? Doesn’t Iraq have to should some responsibility?

104 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 2:10:52pm

So to recap. Republicans want a war with boots on the ground in:

1. Afghanistan
2. Crimea
3. Iran
4. Iraq
5. Pakistan
6. Ukraine

105 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:11:28pm

re: #103 gwangung

If the troops have been gone for four years…how has it the fault of the US? Doesn’t Iraq have to should some responsibility?

Ah, but you forget.

Obama is the President.

106 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 2:11:29pm

re: #103 gwangung

If the troops have been gone for four years…how has it the fault of the US? Doesn’t Iraq have to should some responsibility?

You see, you failing to understand the GOP’s nuanced point of view in this matter, which is THERE’S A NI-CLANG! IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

107 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 2:11:52pm

re: #100 Lidane

@AdamJShriver
Crazy idea: maybe the Sunday talk shows should include some of the people who were, you know, actually right about Iraq, WMDs, etc.

I keep thinking “Please proceed” is going to wear out its welcome. It’s not.

If the chuckleheaded McCain gang wants to go on national television and explain how it’s so very important to their party’s vision for the US that we go get more of our kids shot up in Iraq, who am I to stop them?

108 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:12:45pm

re: #103 gwangung

If the troops have been gone for four years…how has it the fault of the US? Doesn’t Iraq have to should some responsibility?

Particularly since Iraq can’t field an army and the present government is apparently backsliding on all the power-sharing deal between various factions.

My view is that the US shouldn’t lift a finger until the Iraqi government meaningfully addresses both these issues. Happily, it seems that is also the official US position.

GOP backbiters can fuck themselves with chainsaws.

109 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:13:25pm

re: #104 Gus

110 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:14:02pm

re: #107 Testy Toad T

I keep thinking “Please proceed” is going to wear out its welcome. It’s not.

If the chuckleheaded McCain gang wants to go on national television and explain how it’s so very important to their party’s vision for the US that we go get more of our kids shot up in Iraq, who am I to stop them?

I would like to see some more pushback against MOAR WAR than is apparent in the talk show lineup.

111 Ian G.  Jun 13, 2014 2:15:13pm

re: #99 Gus

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Shep Smith is an island of sanity and honesty in the sea of lies and derp that is FOX. God bless him.

112 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 2:15:43pm
113 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:16:09pm

re: #109 Kragar

They should have had that on the cover of the PNAC manifesto. It serves admirably as an executive summary, with one small caveat:

Countries that submit to rule by US economic interests (multinationals etc.) need not be invaded.

114 sagehen  Jun 13, 2014 2:16:18pm

re: #49 Ding-an-sich Wannabe

What’s Romney’s idea of diplomacy anyway?

Telling the Brits they live on a small island, their houses and roads are small, and BTW their Olympics are looking sketchy. Then publicly announce that you just had a secret meeting with someone whose name/title are supposed to be classified…

115 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:16:35pm
116 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 2:16:40pm
117 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 13, 2014 2:16:40pm

re: #104 Gus

So to recap. Republicans want a war with boots on the ground in:

1. Afghanistan
2. Crimea
3. Iran
4. Iraq
5. Pakistan
6. Ukraine

You forgot:

7. Sudan (because Meriam Ibrahim)
8. Mexico (because Andrew Tahmooressi)
9. Canada (because 54’40’ or FIGHT!)

118 CuriousLurker  Jun 13, 2014 2:17:11pm

Drive-by Comment: LOL, remember poor, departed Paul the octopus who predicted the 2010 World Cup games?

This year the UAE proudly presents #Shaheen the #WorldCupCamel.

Youtube Video

119 ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2014 2:17:36pm

re: #39 Kragar

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Ha! The Friedman Unit. Loved that.

They do a nice job of ripping on those 7. It shows how some people, no matter how wrong and discredited, fail to ever be embarrassed by their own actions. They dive right back in and continue with their arrogance never allowing them to see how they are seen.

120 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:17:39pm

re: #114 sagehen

Telling the Brits they live on a small island, their houses and roads are small, and BTW their Olympics are looking sketchy. Then publicly announce that you just had a secret meeting with someone whose name/title are supposed to be classified…

In other words, waving his dick around like it’s a checkbook, or perhaps the other way around.

Either way, it’s a perfect match for GOP foreign policy.

121 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 2:18:05pm

Approved by Bush White House.

Unofficial Translation of U.S.-Iraq Troop Agreement from the Arabic Text

Article 24

Withdrawal of American Forces from Iraq

Admitting to the performance of Iraqi forces, their increased capabilities and assuming full responsibility for security and based upon the strong relationship between the two parties the two parties agreed to the following:

All U.S. forces are to withdraw from all Iraqi territory, water and airspace no later than the 31st of December of 2011.

All U.S. combat forces are to withdraw from Iraqi cities, villages, and towns not later than the date that Iraqi forces assume complete responsibility of security in any Iraqi province. The withdrawal of U.S. forces from the above-mentioned places is on a date no later than the 30 June 2009. The withdrawing U.S. forces mentioned in item (2) above are to gather in the installations and areas agreed upon that are located outside of cities, villages and towns that will be determined by the Joint Military Operation Coordinating Committee (JMOCC) before the date determined in item (2) above.

The United States admits to the sovereign right of the Iraqi government to demand the departure of the U.S. forces from Iraq at anytime. The Iraqi government admits to the sovereign right of the United States to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq at anytime.

The two parties agree to put a mechanism and preparations for reducing the number of U.S. forces during the appointed period. And they are to agree on the locations where the forces are to settle…

122 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 2:18:13pm

re: #104 Gus

So to recap. Republicans want a war with boots on the ground in:

1. Afghanistan
2. Crimea
3. Iran
4. Iraq
5. Pakistan
6. Ukraine

Don’t forget their open demand for Patton’s Army on the US-Mexico border to stop the invading brown horde.

123 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 2:19:29pm

romney, christie shrug off paul’s resounding win in iowa

christie, romney vow to fight on after inconclusive nh results

romney drops out of race after disappointing nc results; calls for jeb to enter get louder

paul and cruz trade bitter insults, christie jabs from sidelines; jeb edges closer

could we have an open convention? gop ponders limited choices after lukewarm jeb reception

124 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 2:19:52pm

I don’t care what Ann says, it will never be the Romneys’ “turn”.

125 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 2:23:36pm

re: #123 dog philosopher

I expect 2016 for the GOP to be the usual scene, with plenty of wingnuts and one or two “mainstream” candidates. If the old rules apply and the next-in-line is based on past entries, then Santorum would win but he may be a bit too religious for some of the money men.

It’s the Democrats in 2016 which look to be a real quandry. Clinton and Biden are not going to be that fresh, no matter how their supports will try to convince everyone else that both deserve to be President. I’m hoping a Democratic governor comes out of fog and ends up leading the charge, but I don’t know if the Dems have a well-known enough politician on deck.

126 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 2:23:49pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

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lol The MC is introducing everyone and having them stand up. He says, ‘The elderly of the Sioux, I know you can’t stand up, so wave!’

He’s killing time because Obama is late.

127 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 2:25:13pm
128 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 2:25:50pm

John McCain’s explaining on CNN right now why we need ETERNAL WAR.

129 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 2:27:11pm
130 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:27:44pm

God I wish Mitt would just shut the fuck up already. Mitt doesn’t have a clue how to run a country let alone deal with foreign policy. Hey, Mitt the fuck up that is Iraq is due to your party’s president who people like you were too busy kissing his ass to listen to any thoughtful criticism of him and his policeis.

131 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:28:38pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

John McCain’s explaining on CNN right now why we need ETERNAL WAR.

I wish that hack would just retire. There was a time when I respected John McCain man to man but now he’s shown himself as a man who is always looking forward to the next war. I know he served himself as a young man but this shit needs to stop.

132 Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2014 2:29:10pm

re: #129 Gus

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“The US really wasn’t organized, trained and equipped to do nation-building.”

Not that you let that stop ya, eh Donald? Yegods.

133 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 2:29:19pm
134 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:29:29pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

John McCain’s explaining on CNN right now why we need ETERNAL WAR.

I did not realize McCain was a metalhead.

Youtube Video

135 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 2:29:30pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

lol The MC is introducing everyone and having them stand up. He says, ‘The elderly of the Sioux, I know you can’t stand up, so wave!’

He’s killing time because Obama is late.

He’s great!!!

136 Decatur Deb  Jun 13, 2014 2:30:06pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

I wish that hack would just retire. There was a time when I respected John McCain man to man but now he’s shown himself as a man who is always looking forward to the next war. I know he served himself as a young man but this shit needs to stop.

A comma makes a difference.

137 ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2014 2:30:35pm

re: #104 Gus

So to recap. Republicans want a war with boots on the ground in:

1. Afghanistan
2. Crimea
3. Iran
4. Iraq
5. Pakistan
6. Ukraine

Done forgot a big one. And it may be the #1.

1. The United States of America

/

138 Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2014 2:30:37pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

John McCain’s explaining on CNN right now why we need ETERNAL WAR.

But don’t ask for unemployment benefits, because damnit we ain’t got money in the budget for that!

///

139 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:30:38pm

But I know we’re not allowed to “blame Bush” but it’s perfectly okay for dim wits like Romney and co to talk about Jimmy Carter’s administration as if it were yesterday.

140 gwangung  Jun 13, 2014 2:30:38pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

Not that you let that stop ya, eh Donald? Yegods.

Or that YOU were a major reason the US wasn’t organized or ready….

141 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:31:01pm

re: #136 Decatur Deb

A comma makes a difference.

Fair enough but I’m fed up with McCain’s crap and war lust.

142 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:31:17pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

Not that you let that stop ya, eh Donald? Yegods.

Rumsfeld talks about “mission creep” as though it happens via emanations from aliens in outer space.

No. Mission creep happens when the people in charge don’t know what the hell they are doing.

Pretty simple, really.

143 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 2:31:22pm
144 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:31:45pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

But don’t ask for unemployment benefits, because damnit we ain’t got money in the budget for that!

///

We don’t have enough money for health insurance, better education, better roads, etc. Oh there’s a conflict somewhere? Spend away, lads!

145 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 13, 2014 2:32:03pm

We always been at war with Eastasia.

And Centralasia.

And Mexicocanada.

146 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 2:32:27pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

He’s great!!!

I gotta go back to work, just when Obama shows up….

147 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 2:32:46pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

The pixels suck.

148 Decatur Deb  Jun 13, 2014 2:32:54pm

re: #129 Gus

“The US really wasn’t organized, trained and equipped to do nation-building.”

You go to nation building with the asshole Sec’y of Defense you have, not the asshole Sec’y of Defense you might want.

149 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 2:33:29pm

re: #147 Stanley Sea

The pixels suck.

Take the ‘m’ off to get the non-mobile version with better resolution.

Off of the address.

150 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 2:33:40pm
151 Decatur Deb  Jun 13, 2014 2:34:04pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

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We won nothing, and now we are in danger of losing it.

152 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 2:34:17pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

Take the ‘m’ off to get the non-mobile version with better resolution.

GEE THANKS!!!!

153 Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2014 2:35:03pm

Here’s the YouTube live feed:

Youtube Video

154 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:35:36pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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That’s the delusions of a man who is still bitter about losing his chances at the presidency and decided to stay in office.

155 Gus  Jun 13, 2014 2:35:41pm
156 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 2:35:44pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

I don’t legitimately question the mental faculties of politicians lightly, but I think it’s completely fair to wonder if the man is actually all upstairs anymore.

When you say something that stunningly out-of-touch, you’re going to get that.

157 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 2:35:45pm

Uh oh, it looks like another opportunity for the Congressman Car Thief to open up yet another investigative hearing:

IRS lost emails by official in tea party probe

158 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:35:48pm

Youtube Video

159 bratwurst  Jun 13, 2014 2:36:09pm

Does this description remind you of anyone you know?

160 Testy Toad T  Jun 13, 2014 2:37:21pm

re: #159 bratwurst

I didn’t know South Park was on twitter.

161 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:37:53pm
162 Slap  Jun 13, 2014 2:37:57pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

Damn it to hell. And as I recall, the rightwing and hawks used to say that about Viet Nam.

We have a really abysmal record in our adventures into non-Western cultures. That’s a truth I can’t find a way to refute.

Arrogance can cause real harm.

163 thedopefishlives  Jun 13, 2014 2:39:34pm

Evening Lizardim. Ooh, look at the shiny. *admires the new button links on replies* How go things among the lizardfolk this cloudy, calm-before-the-storm evening?

164 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:39:40pm

re: #162 Slap

Damn it to hell. And as I recall, the rightwing and hawks used to say that about Viet Nam.

We have a really abysmal record in our adventures into non-Western cultures. That’s a truth I can’t find a way to refute.

Arrogance can cause real harm.

It remains an article of faith in the RW nut house that Vietnam was winnable.

They really are that delusional.

165 blueraven  Jun 13, 2014 2:39:50pm

What a tangled web we weave…

166 sagehen  Jun 13, 2014 2:41:13pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Here’s the YouTube live feed:

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Video

That’s the “we want North Dakota back kthx” dance. The women will be up next, with their rendition of “and Montana too”.

167 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 2:41:25pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

the “surge” WON the Iraq War

izzat so?

personally i have never heard of a war that was “won” and then somehow “won” became unstuck and fell apart

168 Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2014 2:43:11pm

re: #167 dog philosopher

izzat so?

personally i have never heard of a war that was “won” and then somehow “won” became unstuck and fell apart

Come now, if we leave Japan tomorrow, they’ll be invading China by dinner time!

///

169 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:43:23pm

re: #156 Testy Toad T

I don’t legitimately question the mental faculties of politicians lightly, but I think it’s completely fair to wonder if the man is actually all upstairs anymore.

When you say something that stunningly out-of-touch, you’re going to get that.

He’s no more crazy than the rest of the GOP. Claiming that Iraq was “won” and that Obama bungled it is the least that is required by the GOP’s maximally anti-Obama on every issue every second of every day ideology.

170 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 2:43:58pm

“Sounding once again like a presidential candidate, Mitt Romney denigrated the “Obama-Biden-Clinton” foreign policy as a “monumental bust” in a speech Friday morning to 300 of his former donors as he opened his annual conference at a ski resort in Deer Valley.”

The conference is being held at the upscale 5 star Stein-Ericksen Lodge. Romney also has a vacation home in the area, so he didn’t have to fly in. He bought this house, which was listed at $8.9M, last year.

forbes.com

He’s got a lot of nerve talking about the Clintons’ wealth which is nowhere near what he’s worth.

ETA: This makes a total of at least 4 homes that the Romneys own.

171 blueraven  Jun 13, 2014 2:44:25pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

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Did you hear him say…Obama didn’t try for a residual force. Lindsey Graham, Me and Joe Lieberman were there at the time, we could have got it done!

The man is delusional and should retire like his amigo did.

172 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 2:45:33pm

If I dance, I get to shake hands. No debate. So cute.

173 wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2014 2:45:34pm
174 CuriousLurker  Jun 13, 2014 2:45:46pm

re: #159 bratwurst

Does this description remind you of anyone you know?

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It’s gotta be tough for the poor centrists to stay balanced on their pedestals what with all the riffraff constantly trying to push them off and make them fall into the mud wrestling pit.

175 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:45:54pm

re: #170 Justanotherhuman

“Sounding once again like a presidential candidate, Mitt Romney denigrated the “Obama-Biden-Clinton” foreign policy as a “monumental bust” in a speech Friday morning to 300 of his former donors as he opened his annual conference at a ski resort in Deer Valley.”

The conference is being held at the upscale 5 star Stein-Ericksen Lodge. Romney also has a vacation home in the area, so he didn’t have to fly in. He bought this house, which was listed at $8.9M, last year.

forbes.com

He’s got a lot of nerve talking about the Clintons’ wealth which is nowhere near what he’s worth.

Can you say hypocritical asshole who lost every state he has a home in? And at least Hillary worked for her wealth unlike Daddy’s Boy who chickened out of Vietnam. I don’t care about his LDS mission. Plenty of LDS men who would have been the same age as Mitt during Vietnam were with my grandfather during Korea.

176 thedopefishlives  Jun 13, 2014 2:46:38pm

re: #169 EPR-radar

He’s no more crazy than the rest of the GOP.

Look, that’s not setting the bar terribly high.

177 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 13, 2014 2:47:00pm

re: #161 Kragar

Presumably she fired one-handed while staring directly into the sun.

178 Mike R  Jun 13, 2014 2:47:41pm

re: #10 Gus

But he really wanted to be a veteran, but somebody had to stay in that Villa in France. Everyone sacrifices in their own way. //// hope those are the right marks to show snark. That guy is a real piece of shit.

179 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:48:35pm

re: #178 Mike R

But he really wanted to be a veteran, but somebody had to stay in that Villa in France. Everyone sacrifices in their own way. //// hope those are the right marks to show snark. That guy is a real piece of shit.

It was hard work sharing that croissant I tell ya!

180 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:48:42pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Can you say hypocritical asshole who lost every state he has a home in? And at least Hillary worked for her wealth unlike Daddy’s Boy who chickened out of Vietnam. I don’t care about his LDS mission. Plenty of LDS men who would have been the same age as Mitt during Vietnam were with my grandfather during Korea.

“Oh, you can’t go to war because your religion doesn’t let you? Desmond Doss would like to have a word with you.”

181 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:50:25pm

re: #177 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Presumably she fired one-handed while staring directly into the sun.

Its not an terrible grouping, but still, if the weapon was properly zeroed and she use the sights, there is no reason it shouldn’t have been center mass.

182 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:50:30pm

re: #180 Kragar

“Oh, you can’t go to war because your religion doesn’t let you? Desmond Doss would like to have a word with you.”

You know, it wouldn’t even bother me if guys like Romney weren’t so eager to send other peopel’s kids to war. None of his sons have served. What a cowardly bunch Mitt and his whole immediate family are.

183 dog philosopher  Jun 13, 2014 2:50:46pm

well i think mccain is correct in his evaluation that if we want to bend the rest of the world to our will and control all major oil production, we must maintain a significant military presence everywhere and live in a constant state of war

he just doesn’t understand why nobody else thinks that’s the way to go

184 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 13, 2014 2:50:48pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

It was hard work sharing that croissant I tell ya!

He could have slightly burned the inside of his mouth if it was too fresh from the oven.

185 jaunte  Jun 13, 2014 2:51:42pm

re: #161 Kragar

I loved shooting this @ColtFirearms rifle. Look at my grouping from 21 feet

21 feet, that’s like all the way across a classroom.

186 ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2014 2:51:58pm

I just had a chill run down my spine…the names Romney Cruz came to me.

Smarm for America.
Romney Cruz 2016

187 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:52:02pm

re: #178 Mike R

But he really wanted to be a veteran, but somebody had to stay in that Villa in France. Everyone sacrifices in their own way. //// hope those are the right marks to show snark. That guy is a real piece of shit.

Best of the clown parade of 2012, but still a real piece of crap.

The GOP is a party of the resentful organized by rich sociopaths like Mitt Romney.

188 thedopefishlives  Jun 13, 2014 2:52:26pm

re: #185 jaunte

21 feet, that’s like all the way across a classroom.

If you’re shooting with a rifle, 21 feet or 21 yards is basically the same thing. Now 210 yards, that’s some fine shootin’, Tex.

189 Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2014 2:52:54pm

re: #184 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

He could have slightly burned the inside of his mouth if it was too fresh from the oven.

The horror! The horror!

190 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:53:24pm

re: #186 ObserverArt

I just had a chill run down my spine…the names Romney Cruz came to me.

Smarm for America.
Romney Cruz 2016

Revolting. Fortunately, I can’t imagine Cruz settling for being a VP candidate.

191 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:54:15pm

re: #185 jaunte

21 feet, that’s like all the way across a classroom.

Because long rifles are the perfect weapons for CQB situations.

If you’re firing your rifle and your target isn’t double digit yards/meters away, its called a carnival attraction, not a shooting range

192 freetoken  Jun 13, 2014 2:54:52pm

Stupid headlines multiply and mutate like flu viruses:

Study: Incredible ocean discovered near the center of the earth

Once again: no, and no.

193 CuriousLurker  Jun 13, 2014 2:55:30pm

re: #186 ObserverArt

I just had a chill run down my spine…the names Romney Cruz came to me.

Smarm for America.
Romney Cruz 2016

*eyes bug out, grabs throat, falls to floor gagging*

194 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 2:55:36pm

Let’s not forget that this fetish for all war all the time is one of the pillars of movement conservatism.

In other words, this warmongering would remain even if the GOP were significantly cleaned up by ridding it of its creationists, confederates and assorted other cranks.

195 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 13, 2014 2:56:28pm

re: #190 EPR-radar

Revolting. Fortunately, I can’t imagine Cruz settling for being a VP candidate.

<sign>
WHEAR BIRTH CERTFACT TED CRUZ WHEAR?!!
</sign>

196 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:56:35pm

re: #194 EPR-radar

Let’s not forget that this fetish for all war all the time is one of the pillars of movement conservatism.

In other words, this warmongering would remain even if the GOP were significantly cleaned up by ridding it of its creationists, confederates and assorted other cranks.

That’s very true.

197 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:57:16pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

If you’re shooting with a rifle, 21 feet or 21 yards is basically the same thing. Now 210 yards, that’s some fine shootin’, Tex.

Battle site zeroing of an M-16A2 was roughly 20-30 yards, since due to the ballistic arc, it would be hitting the same point at roughly 300 yards

Image: M855_drop_during_25-meter_zeroing_trajectory_M16A2_M4.jpg

198 Justanotherhuman  Jun 13, 2014 2:57:58pm

re: #180 Kragar

“Oh, you can’t go to war because your religion doesn’t let you? Desmond Doss would like to have a word with you.”

And how many sons do the Romneys have who never served a day in their miserable lives?

Can you say five, 5, cinco?

199 sagehen  Jun 13, 2014 2:58:40pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

You know, it wouldn’t even bother me if guys like Romney weren’t so eager to send other peopel’s kids to war. None of his sons have served. What a cowardly bunch Mitt and his whole immediate family are.

You left out the best part… in 1969, he was photographed leading a pro-draft rally at Stanford, as counter-demonstrators to the anti-draft folks. He got his entire College Republicans chapter to turn out in support of that position.

200 Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2014 2:58:53pm
201 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:58:54pm

McCain’s ramblings though are a good reminder while the TP/Brat wing of the party are nuts that the establishment is just as bad. McCain has never met an armed conflict he hasn’t want us involved in. I am glad he opens his mouth though because he always reminds me how glad I am that I did not vote for him and his even more insane running mate.

202 Kragar  Jun 13, 2014 2:59:17pm

re: #198 Justanotherhuman

And how many sons do the Romneys have who never served a day in their miserable lives?

Can you say five, 5, cinco?

Think of how many lives they saved by not being chickenshit officers out in the field!

203 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 2:59:22pm

re: #199 sagehen

You left out the best part… in 1969, he was photographed leading a pro-draft rally at Stanford, as counter-demonstrators to the anti-draft folks. He got his entire College Republicans chapter to turn out in support of that position.

I didn’t bring that up because just thinking about that fact angers me.

204 ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2014 2:59:44pm

re: #198 Justanotherhuman

And how many sons do the Romneys have who never served a day in their miserable lives?

Can you say five, 5, cinco?

Their own Band of Brothers.

Each has the other’s back…and some access to the old man’s money and influence.

/

205 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 3:00:24pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

Their own Band of Brothers.

Each has the other’s back…and some access to the old man’s money and influence.

/

They fought hard so the other would not go yachtless.

206 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 3:01:41pm

re: #198 Justanotherhuman

And how many sons do the Romneys have who never served a day in their miserable lives?

Can you say five, 5, cinco?

It always amuses me when RWNJs get all hot and bothered about accusations of chickenhawking. It’s so often true, and their reactions make it apparent the charge stings.

207 HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2014 3:03:11pm

re: #206 EPR-radar

It always amuses me when RWNJs get all hot and bothered about accusations of chickenhawking. It’s so often true, and their reactions make it apparent the charge stings.

What’s always upset me about the chickenhawks is the arrogance of them. Cheney claiming ot have other priorities. Gee, Dick, I’m sure the guys who went in your place would have rather been somewhere else too. Or Mitt acting like he so badly wanted to be there. What was stopping you, chickenshit?

208 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 3:05:27pm

re: #134 Kragar

I did not realize McCain was a metalhead.

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209 Lidane  Jun 13, 2014 3:06:56pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

It’s a common RWNJ talking point. We had Iraq pacified to the point where they were having drum circles and maypole dances in the middle of Baghdad, then Obama had to ruin it all.

You know, because the invasion was perfectly executed and we built a stable Iraq in the aftermath.

210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 13, 2014 3:23:27pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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“Vee come in piece!”

211 Decatur Deb  Jun 13, 2014 3:28:40pm

re: #185 jaunte

21 feet, that’s like all the way across a classroom.

What the NRA calls “Battlesight Zero”.

212 TedStriker  Jun 13, 2014 3:47:56pm

re: #206 EPR-radar

It always amuses me when RWNJs get all hot and bothered about accusations of chickenhawking. It’s so often true, and their reactions make it apparent the charge stings.

It’s because they know, deep down, that they really don’t give a shit that they’re willing to send other people to die for their own selfish ends; they also know that if they had any shame or remorse, they would likely eat a bullet, yet self-preservation is strong with them.

213 EPR-radar  Jun 13, 2014 3:50:33pm

re: #212 TedStriker

It’s because they know, deep down, that they really don’t give a shit that they’re willing to send other people to die for their own selfish ends; they also know that if they had any shame or remorse, they would likely eat a bullet, yet self-preservation is strong with them.

Indeed. It’s a delicious combination of shame and imperfect denial. They really are chickens that want other people to die for their war-lust.

214 Skip Intro  Jun 13, 2014 4:20:37pm

re: #129 Gus

Three life rules from Donald Rumsfeld

Have to be lie, cheat, and steal.

215 krypto  Jun 13, 2014 5:56:24pm

Romney would have solved all of America’s problems by being a Republican President, instead of the Democrat President we have, of course.

And the evidence of it is that Fox and its sheep would have praised and defended whatever he did instead of attacking it.


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