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VIDEO: Heritage Foundation’s Benghazi Panelists Mock Muslim Student

Speakers at a Heritage Foundation panel mocked a Muslim student who pointed out that Muslim Americans were not represented at the forum and stated that conservative rhetoric on Islam is often starkly negative.

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Anti-Muslim Conpiracy Theorist, Brigitte Gabriel on Fox News

Update: Brigitte Gabriel - Conspiracy Theorist

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“America has been infiltrated on all levels by radicals who wish to harm America,” she said. “They have infiltrated us at the C.I.A., at the F.B.I., at the Pentagon, at the State Department. They are being radicalized in radical mosques in our cities and communities within the United States.”

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Ms. Gabriel is only one voice in a growing circuit that includes counter-Islam speakers like Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and Walid Shoebat. What distinguishes Ms. Gabriel from her counterparts is that she has built a national grass-roots organization in the last three years that has already engaged in dozens of battles over the place of Islam in the United States. ACT! for America claims 155,000 members in 500 chapters across the country. To build her organization, Ms. Gabriel has enlisted Mr. Rodgers, who had worked behind the scenes for the Christian Coalition’s leaders, Ralph Reed and the television evangelist Pat Robertson. (Ms. Gabriel herself was once an anchor for Mr. Robertson’s Christian television network in the Middle East).

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1 Charles Johnson  Jun 17, 2014 8:29:10pm
2 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:29:17pm

Can’t be a right wing event without some good old Islamaphobia but I know wingnuts, libtards are the real bigots and the Muslims deserve your bigotry.

3 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:30:22pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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You know, I used to think the Heritage Foundation was a pretty awful organization but since DeMint taken over, they’ve proven that you can go even lower. I guess that’s the story of the past six years. Just when you think right wing bigots can’t show themselves to be any more lower, they do it again.

4 Kragar  Jun 17, 2014 8:31:17pm

And people have made a career out of this

5 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:33:35pm

re: #4 Kragar

And people have made a career out of this

See, Geller, Pamela and Spencer, Robert. Good money in being scapegoating an entire group of people of an entire religion.

6 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 8:35:11pm

Brave woman to face down some Islamaphobes. I applaud the questioner.

7 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:35:36pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Brave woman to face down some Islamaphobes. I applaud the questioner.

Yep.

8 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 8:42:04pm

Brigitte Gabriel:

America has been infiltrated on all levels by radicals who wish to harm America,” she said. “They have infiltrated us at the C.I.A., at the F.B.I., at the Pentagon, at the State Department. They are being radicalized in radical mosques in our cities and communities within the United States.”nytimes.com

Frank Gaffney:

Another question yet to be resolved is whether Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States, a prerequisite pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. There is evidence Mr. Obama was born in Kenya rather than, as he claims, Hawaii. There is also a registration document for a school in Indonesia where the would-be president studied for four years, on which he was identified not only as a Muslim but as an Indonesian. If correct, the latter could give rise to another potential problem with respect to his eligibility to be president.
washingtontimes.com

Is Dylan Byers seriously expecting everyone to ignore the context in this story?

9 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!  Jun 17, 2014 8:42:06pm

So Pam lite was saying that she knows not all Muslims are terrorists, but *Nails on a chalkboard for 3 minutes* by default, all Muslims are to blame for the terrorists?

10 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 8:44:20pm
The Heritage Foundation also feels that the event was “mischaracterized” by Milbank. It also notes that while the event took place at Heritage, it was hosted by the Benghazi Accountability Coalition.politico.com

I was wearing a mask!!! You can’t say it was me!!!

11 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 8:44:21pm

re: #8 jaunte

Brigitte Gabriel:

Frank Gaffney:

Is Dylan Byers seriously expecting everyone to ignore the context in this story?

Nice find.

12 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 17, 2014 8:44:22pm

Reposting a link from downstairs:

Mohammed Idris was assassinated on June 10 for speaking against Al Shebab.

There’s been dozens, if not hundreds, of individual Muslims assassinated for criticism of terrorist groups—not killed in bombing or stochastic violence, but explicitly targeted to silence them. They just haven’t ever gotten much press outside their own nations.

Heritage’s gaggle of Islamophobes and their fellow travelers aren’t really interested, though. They’re intent on the image of an undifferentiated mob of religious fanatics. They don’t care that Islamist terror primarily falls upon more liberal Muslims, they don’t care that Muslims can and still do protest Islamist violence, Islamist politics, and Islamist theology. I’m repeating myself, but there is no good faith to found amongst these “thinkers”—they’re intent upon a “clash of civilization” and other such nonsense.

13 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 8:45:06pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Brave woman to face down some Islamaphobes. I applaud the questioner.

She handled herself with a LOT more aplomb that I would’ve been able to muster under those circumstances.

14 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:46:15pm

re: #8 jaunte

Brigitte Gabriel:

Frank Gaffney:

Is Dylan Byers seriously expecting everyone to ignore the context in this story?

Well these are the rants of people who totally make sense. Yeah Frank and Brigit, Islamists have totally infilitrated our security services under Obama. That’s why Bin Laden and others are dead. Really, these fools can’t bring themselves to admit that Obama not only isn’t the secret Islamist they claim he is but he’s damn more effective than they would be on dealing with terrorism. They just can’t help themselves to push Obama the appeaser meme.

15 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:46:41pm

re: #13 CuriousLurker

She handled herself with a LOT more aplomb that I would’ve been able to muster under those circumstances.

I think you would surprise yourself. You’ve handled yourself well here over the years.

16 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 17, 2014 8:47:11pm

We’ve been infiltrated alright. Just not in the way these hateful assholes think.

17 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:47:20pm

re: #12 The Ghost of a Flea

Reposting a link from downstairs:

Mohammed Idris was assassinated on June 10 for speaking against Al Shebab.

There’s been dozens, if not hundreds, of individual Muslims assassinated for criticism of terrorist groups—not killed in bombing or stochastic violence, but explicitly targeted to silence them. They just haven’t ever gotten much press outside their own nations.

Heritage’s gaggle of Islamophobes and their fellow travelers aren’t really interested, though. They’re intent on the image of an undifferentiated mob of religious fanatics. They don’t care that Islamist terror primarily falls upon more liberal Muslims, they don’t care that Muslims can and still do protest Islamist violence, Islamist politics, and Islamist theology. I’m repeating myself, but there is no good faith to found amongst these “thinkers”—they’re intent upon a “clash of civilization” and other such nonsense.

They just don’t give a damn. The want a Crusades 2.0 or whatever where it’s Christians versus Muslims.

18 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 8:48:19pm

Dana Milbank, WaPo:

Heritage hosted Monday’s gathering in conjunction with the Benghazi Accountability Coalition, a federation coordinated by Andrew McCarthy (prosecutor of the Blind Sheik, Omar Abdel Rahman) and including 15 groups such as Heritage, Judicial Watch and the Traditional Values Coalition. McCarthy’s talk to the gathering was titled “Just the Facts” — but the facts never had a chance against all the groups’ self-promotion (“Go to benghazicoalition.org” and “You need to be on our mailing list”) and anti-Islamist rhetoric that too often sounded just anti-Islam.
washingtonpost.com

19 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 8:48:35pm

re: #8 jaunte

Brigitte Gabriel:

Frank Gaffney:

Is Dylan Byers seriously expecting everyone to ignore the context in this story?

We don’t need no stinkin’ context!!11! Context is for RINOs & libtards.

20 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 17, 2014 8:49:19pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

They just don’t give a damn. The want a Crusades 2.0 or whatever where it’s Christians versus Muslims.

I think radical Islam is the new Communism. And the new Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It’s not even about foreign policy, it’s about liberal domestic policy secretly serving a malefic international conspiracy that will destroy civilization.

21 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:49:40pm

You know though, I’m old enough to remember G.W Bush having a Muslim as his ambassador to Afghanistan and him for all his faults after 9/11 telling the American people not to blame all Muslims for 9/11. Now OTOH we have Republican political candidates go out of their way to not merely be hostile to American Muslims but to question their loyalty to our country.

22 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 8:49:42pm

re: #19 CuriousLurker

We’ve been infiltrated by radicals at all levels!

23 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 8:49:48pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I think you would surprise yourself. You’ve handled yourself well here over the years.

I don’t do nearly as well in person, heh.

24 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 8:49:56pm

Ms. Gabriel is only one voice in a growing circuit that includes counter-Islam speakers like Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and Walid Shoebat. What distinguishes Ms. Gabriel from her counterparts is that she has built a national grass-roots organization in the last three years that has already engaged in dozens of battles over the place of Islam in the United States. ACT! for America claims 155,000 members in 500 chapters across the country. To build her organization, Ms. Gabriel has enlisted Mr. Rodgers, who had worked behind the scenes for the Christian Coalition’s leaders, Ralph Reed and the television evangelist Pat Robertson. (Ms. Gabriel herself was once an anchor for Mr. Robertson’s Christian television network in the Middle East).

nytimes.com

Nothing to see here.

25 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:50:35pm

re: #20 The Ghost of a Flea

I think radical Islam is the new Communism. And the new Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It’s not even about foreign policy, it’s about liberal domestic policy secretly serving a malefic international conspiracy that will destroy civilization.

I think you’re right that it is domestic in nature at its core because more Muslim immigrants is something they see as a threat to the America as they’ve known it. I OTOH have had Muslim classmates, friends, and neighbors for years now.

26 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:51:02pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

I don’t do nearly as well in person, heh.

It can be tough I’m sure. People are so narrow minded.

27 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 8:51:08pm

re: #20 The Ghost of a Flea

I think radical Islam is the new Communism. And the new Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It’s not even about foreign policy, it’s about liberal domestic policy secretly serving a malefic international conspiracy that will destroy civilization.

Yeah, we’ve been “It” for a while now. We need to find someone else to tag… //

28 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 8:52:01pm

re: #27 CuriousLurker

Belgians. Why did they make those waffles so… deep?

29 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 8:53:01pm

Hey CuriousLurker!

I am non-religious, so I have to ask, that hashtag #MuslimBuzzFeed was funny, yes? A lot of Muslims on Twitter seemed to think so. Most of the entries went straight over my head. :p

30 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:53:16pm

re: #28 jaunte

Belgians. Why did they make those waffles so… deep?

Hey, they make a good beer and chocolate.

31 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!  Jun 17, 2014 8:53:41pm

re: #24 Gus</re: #28 jaunte

Canadians. Why is their bacon round??

32 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 8:54:10pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

It can be tough I’m sure. People are so narrow minded.

I exhausted whatever patience I had with bigots back in Texas. See this comment in the Pages from earlier today.

33 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 8:54:46pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Hey CuriousLurker!

I am non-religious, so I have to ask, that hashtag #MuslimBuzzFeed was funny, yes? A lot of Muslims on Twitter seemed to think so. Most of the entries went straight over my head. :p

Yeah, thanks for that one. I’d never heard of it before. ;-)

34 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 8:54:46pm

BENGHAZI ACCOUNTABILITY COALITION
As of JUNE 11, 2014
Chairman:
Andrew C. McCarthy

Andrew C. McCarthy

He has defended the practice of waterboarding as not necessarily being torture, and as necessary in some situations to prosecute the War on Terror[3][4] whilst admitting that “waterboarding is close enough to torture that reasonable minds can differ on whether it is torture”.[5]

During the 2008 presidential election campaign, Andrew McCarthy wrote a number of posts on the National Review’s Corner blog stating that he thought that Democratic Presidential candidate, Barack Obama, was not serious about protecting US national security against threats from radical Islam and elsewhere, and that Obama had a number of troubling ties and associations with leftist radicals.

In an opinion posted on the blog ‘the Corner’ on 10/22/08,[6] Mr. McCarthy wrote “I believe that the issue of Obama’s personal radicalism, including his collaboration with radical, America-hating Leftists, should have been disqualifying.”

In May 2009, Mr. McCarthy provided details of a letter declining an invitation from Attorney General Eric Holder for a round-table meeting with President Barack Obama concerning the status of people detained in the War on Terror. Mr. McCarthy noted his dissension with the administration in their policies regarding the detainees.[7] On December 5, 2009 he came out publicly against prosecuting Islamic terrorists in civil courts rather than military tribunals, saying “A war is a war. A war is not a crime, and you don’t bring your enemies to a courthouse.”[8]

McCarthy has recently spoken out against the War in Afghanistan, saying that the War benefits the Afghans while hurting American interests, and that the United States should be concerned solely with its interests.

Coupled with his national security conservatism, McCarthy also espouses strong fiscal conservative views on entitlement spending, and favors the abolition of Medicare, which he calls a fraud and a Ponzi scheme greater than that perpetrated by Bernie Madoff. He says that the goals of the original proponents of Medicare was to get a foot in the door for full out socialized medicine, under a single payer system.

Leaders - About Us : Benghazi Accountability Coalition

General Jerry Boykin
Col. Allen West
Frank Gaffney
Andy McCarthy
Dan Bongino
Steven Bucci
Elaine Donnelly
Brigitte Gabriel
Paul Vallely
Anita MonCrief
Gayle Trotter
Everett Woolum
Dick and Patricia Schermerhorn
Tony Papandrea, Private Citizen, USNA
Col. USMC, Ret. David Percy
Susan Creed Percy, Advocate for Military Families
Archpriest Alexander F.C. Webster, PhD, Chaplain (Colonel), USA, Retired

35 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:55:12pm

re: #32 CuriousLurker

I exhausted whatever patience I had with bigots back in Texas. See this comment in the Pages from earlier today.

You’re only human. Really we’ve come a long way I feel as a nation but we have a ways to go.

36 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:55:41pm

re: #34 Gus

BENGHAZI ACCOUNTABILITY COALITION
As of JUNE 11, 2014
Chairman:
Andrew C. McCarthy

Andrew C. McCarthy

Leaders - About Us : Benghazi Accountability Coalition

Swell bunch right there.

37 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 8:56:37pm

re: #34 Gus

Looks like they haven’t decided how to respond to the recent capture.

38 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 8:57:41pm

re: #33 CuriousLurker

Yeah, thanks for that one. I’d never heard of it before. ;-)

It just took off today.

Stuff like this. As a Muslim I’m sure this is pretty hilarious, but I’m like Huh?

39 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 17, 2014 8:57:48pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

I think you’re right that it is domestic in nature at its core because more Muslim immigrants is something they see as a threat to the America as they’ve known it. I OTOH have had Muslim classmates, friends, and neighbors for years now.

It’s not even about actual, factual Muslim immigrants. It’s about a mysterious network of crypto-Muslims and sympathizers trying to destroy the nation, who presence can only be discerned by a few in-the-know individuals.

The concept of Secret Muslims is where this shit really goes down the rabbit hole.

40 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 8:58:57pm

re: #39 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s not even about actual, factual Muslim immigrants. It’s about a mysterious network of crypto-Muslims and sympathizers trying to destroy the nation, who presence can only be discerned by a few in-the-know individuals.

The concept of Secret Muslims is where this shit really goes down the rabbit hole.

Ah true- Secret Muslims just like the Communist subversives that Senator McCarthy found after drinking a fifth of John Jameson’s best.

41 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!  Jun 17, 2014 8:59:42pm

re: #34 Gus

If water boarding isn’t torture, why do it? Are they just cleaning their face for them?

42 jaunte  Jun 17, 2014 9:00:39pm

re: #39 The Ghost of a Flea

The concept of Secret Muslims is where this shit really goes down the rabbit hole.

Counting the minutes until the Huma Abedin/Hillary sekrit muslin lesbian lover scandal gets reanimated and starts shambling around.

43 prairiefire  Jun 17, 2014 9:01:20pm

re: #41 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!

No, they are making them suck in water into their lungs.

44 Charles Johnson  Jun 17, 2014 9:01:32pm
45 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!  Jun 17, 2014 9:02:56pm

re: #43 prairiefire

Ah, so they are cleaning their lungs for them! But not torturing them!!11!!!/

46 TedStriker  Jun 17, 2014 9:04:04pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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47 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 9:06:37pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

I feel sheepish saying it. I’ve mentioned it in the past. LGF convinced me to get a Twitter account 4 years ago (how I was convinced escapes me). The first Twitter account I followed was Lizardoid which is now @Green_Footballs.

48 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 9:09:46pm

I don’t know how many of you saw when I posted YouTube video about Boko Haram from the Naval War College in a semi-snarky comment to KT yesterday or the day before, but I sat down and watched the entire thing last night and was particularly struck by his mention of American Muslims being able to make a difference.

In one instance he talked about how a group of American imams traveled to Nigeria and talked to Nigerian imams and got some of the to change their minds on some radical ideas. The other thing was American Muslims getting together and creating a photo gallery of mosques in the U.S. He said the Nigerians were like, “Oh, well they just haven’t burned them down yet…” They were truly shocked to learn that (bumps in the road & the professional Islamophobes notwithstanding) we’re free to practice Islam in peace & safety here.

If these assholes would HELP us reach out instead of fear mongering and trying to marginalize & demonize us, we might be able to make a real difference where radicalism is concerned, both here and overseas.

But I guess they’re making too much money with their hate to care. *SIGH*

49 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 9:10:15pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

It just took off today.

Stuff like this. As a Muslim I’m sure this is pretty hilarious, but I’m like Huh?

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Ah, no wonder then!

50 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 17, 2014 9:10:47pm

re: #42 jaunte

Counting the minutes until the Huma Abedin/Hillary sekrit muslin lesbian lover scandal gets reanimated and starts shambling around.

Remember when they condemned Grover Norquist because of his wife?

These are not nice people.

They’re bugfuck crazy, or exploiting the bugfuck crazy to make cash. Either way, they’re willing to persecute and disenfranchise anybody that doesn’t match their standards.

Their entirely subjective, ever-shifting, self-serving standards.

51 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 9:11:05pm
52 HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2014 9:12:35pm

re: #50 The Ghost of a Flea

Remember when they condemned Grover Norquist because of his wife?

These are not nice people.

They’re bugfuck crazy, or exploiting the bugfuck crazy to make cash. Either way, they’re willing to persecute and disenfranchise anybody that doesn’t match their standards.

Their entirely subjective, ever-shifting, self-serving standards.

Hell Grover himself was subject because he has a beard which amused me given that both Robert Spencer and Frank Gaffney aren’t exactly clean shaved. They’re not only assholes but extremely stupid ones. Extremely stupid ones with influential friends or friends like Romney who wlil pander to them.

53 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 9:17:15pm

I am so sick to death of this shit. 13 freaking long years of this bullshit.

54 Charles Johnson  Jun 17, 2014 9:20:46pm

re: #53 Gus

I am so sick to death of this shit. 13 freaking long years of this bullshit.

I hear you.

55 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 9:23:12pm

The state of Georgia executed someone tonight.

Any Lizard medical professionals want to weigh in on the drug used?

Georgia uses one drug — the sedative pentobarbital — for executions. Oklahoma uses three.

56 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 9:24:34pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

BTW, if anyone’s interested in learning more about Boko Haram that’s a really good lecture. The speaker is John Campbell, who was the ambassador to Nigeria under G.W. Bush and is currently the State Department’s acting director of the Office of the Historian.

It starts off kinda slow (first 10 minutes or so), but then it gets really interesting. Gives you lots of insight and reminds you that not everyone sees the world the way we do, and the sooner we obtain a higher degree of religious literacy WRT Islam, the better off we’ll be (because the whole cowboy, bomb ‘em back to the Stone Age just isn’t gonna work).

57 Dark_Falcon  Jun 17, 2014 9:24:57pm

re: #9 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!

So Pam lite was saying that she knows not all Muslims are terrorists, but *Nails on a chalkboard for 3 minutes* by default, all Muslims are to blame for the terrorists?

Actually, I think Brigitte Gabriel is the enhanced version of Pam Geller. There are still a good number Lebanese Christians (both outside of and within Lebanon) who hate Muslims with an intensity that leaves the Shrieking Harpy in the shade. And on some occasions during Lebanon’s civil war, that hate flared to dreadful heights that even Frank Gaffney would not likely go.

58 CuriousLurker  Jun 17, 2014 9:44:42pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

While we’re on the subject, some of you may be interested in this as it gives you a peek into the competing narratives:

Kenya president blames locals for deadly attacks

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — The killers in the Kenyan village singled out non-Muslims, shooting them point-blank or slitting their throats, just like the previous night in an adjacent hamlet. A Somali extremist group claimed responsibility but Kenya’s president on Tuesday blamed local political networks for the 60 deaths.

President Uhuru Kenyatta, in a national address, said evidence indicates that the motive for the killing spree was to evict a community of people in order to grab the land along the coast near the Somali border. He said al-Shabab, a Somali group linked to al-Qaida, was not behind it.

But analysts expressed doubt. Matt Bryden, the former head of the U.N. Monitoring Group on Somalia, said al-Shabab has never claimed credit for an attack it didn’t carry out.

“It has all the hallmarks of an al-Shabab attack, said Bryden, now the head of Sahan Research. “Secondly, there’s been no sign of a Kenyan group carrying out an attack on this scale or with these tactics.” […]

Bearded Muslim leaders conferring inside Nairobi’s largest mosque, a grand white facade nestled among the capital’s high rises, condemned what they called savage acts and ghastly killings and said there was no justification for them.

They warned of a potential sectarian rift.

“The continued violence risks tearing the country apart,” they said, continuing later: “We need to be cognizant of the fact that some of these attacks are aimed at planning seeds of discord and animosity among Kenyans and divide the country along ethnic and religious lines.” […]

mdjonline.com

Like Geller, Spencer, Gabriel, et al these extremists want to create fear & strife and have people at each other’s throats. I don’t understand it—the only thing I know is they make me sick. *spit*

Okay, I was already in bed with my iPad when I saw everyone tweeting this Page promotion, so I came back to my computer. Gonna go get try to get some sleep now. Later, lizards.

59 Zamb  Jun 17, 2014 9:46:35pm

I saw this earlier, is she basically claiming you can’t criticize her hateful statements about muslims unless you can get a bunch of other muslims to spew hateful rhetoric at muslims?

60 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 9:47:30pm

re: #58 CuriousLurker

While we’re on the subject, some of you may be interested in this as it gives you a peek into the competing narratives:

Like Geller, Spencer, Gabriel, et al these extremists want to create fear & strife and have people at each other’s throats. I don’t understand it—the only thing I know is they make me sick. *spit*

Okay, I was already in bed with my iPad when I saw everyone tweeting this Page promotion, so I came back to my computer. Gonna go get try to get some sleep now. Later, lizards.

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It’s never the job it’s always the people. :D

61 gwangung  Jun 17, 2014 9:51:32pm

The exact same rhetoric was spewed about Japanese Americans in WW II. And Chinese Americans in the 19th Century. And they used the same words.

I really don’t see any difference between the so-called anti-Islamists and those bigots. Let’s call them what they are—RACISTS.

62 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 9:52:26pm
63 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!  Jun 17, 2014 9:52:35pm

re: #59 Zamb

I think so.

64 sagehen  Jun 17, 2014 9:59:31pm

Fargo.

Satisfying conclusion.

65 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 10:02:27pm
66 Gus  Jun 17, 2014 10:02:47pm
67 makeitstop  Jun 17, 2014 10:17:46pm

Well, this is a bummer.

Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station posted on his Facebook page that both Mike Molloy and Stephanie Miller used stuff on their shows without getting any type of permission to do so - and when he called them on it, he got some variation of ‘You should be flattered that we’re reading your stuff.’

He’s pissed. So pissed, in fact, that he’s seriously thinking about shutting everything down.

This sucks. Both Molloy and Miller should apologize, loudly and publicly, and promise never to use his stuff without authorization from now on.

It would really be a shame to lose Wright’s perspective.

68 Varek Raith  Jun 17, 2014 10:22:39pm

Awww, I missed the creationist…

69 Varek Raith  Jun 17, 2014 10:29:52pm

Lol@drudge.
Chicken!

70 Lidane  Jun 17, 2014 10:38:25pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

You know though, I’m old enough to remember G.W Bush having a Muslim as his ambassador to Afghanistan and him for all his faults after 9/11 telling the American people not to blame all Muslims for 9/11. Now OTOH we have Republican political candidates go out of their way to not merely be hostile to American Muslims but to question their loyalty to our country.

It’s a consequence of the stupid faction of the GOP taking over the party.

20 years ago, the GOP were just greedy assholes. Now they’re stupid, greedy assholes. Fun times.

71 sagehen  Jun 17, 2014 10:52:32pm

re: #67 makeitstop

Well, this is a bummer.

Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station posted on his Facebook page that both Mike Molloy and Stephanie Miller used stuff on their shows without getting any type of permission to do so - and when he called them on it, he got some variation of ‘You should be flattered that we’re reading your stuff.’

He’s pissed. So pissed, in fact, that he’s seriously thinking about shutting everything down.

This sucks. Both Molloy and Miller should apologize, loudly and publicly, and promise never to use his stuff without authorization from now on.

It would really be a shame to lose Wright’s perspective.

Did they at least credit him by name?

72 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 10:59:44pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

Awww, I missed the creationist…
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It was the first time I’ve personally had to deal with a creationist in a LGF comments section. I truly thought the heathen Lizard Army scared all of them away.

I asked dude over and over “So if you’re not a creationist but you don’t believe that evolution and natural selection are valid explanations for biology, then what do you believe?”

Dude never answered any of our questions. Charles summed it up nicely.

re: #251 Charles Johnson

It always amazes me that creationists feel a compulsion to lie about being creationists. Almost as if they realize on some level how irrational their beliefs are.

73 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 17, 2014 11:03:50pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

I’m going with his ignorance confusing evolution with abiogenesis. It’s the only way I can comprehend how someone is not a creationist yet doesn’t accept evolution — he means he doesn’t accept abiogenesis.

Perhaps he will deign to offer a clarification, though I rather doubt it.

74 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 17, 2014 11:19:19pm

It’s impossible to debate someone usefully when they don’t even understand the subject being debated, or take the time to understand even basic terminology.

And it’s frustrating when they duck direct questions, drop a bombshell, and say “Bye-bye, gotta go!”

On that note, I gotta go teach some students some stuff. See y’all later.

75 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 11:25:01pm

Twitter is not allowing me to send out tweets. For the last 10 minutes it’s just said INTERNAL SERVER ERROR.

:(

76 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 11:39:09pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Twitter is not allowing me to send out tweets. For the last 10 minutes it’s just said INTERNAL SERVER ERROR.

:(

20 minutes now. Twitter won’t let me send out tweets. I’ve tried on desktop, laptop, iPhone. I’m simply not allowed to tweet at present time. Baffling to say the least.

77 teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2014 11:57:47pm

So fucking weird! I can tweet any other matter of nonsense or whatever, but I can’t tweet this:

D. Boon’s guitar solo in Minutemen’s song “King of the Hill” is one of my favorite pieces of guitar noise out there. Short, but masterful.

I’m genuinely baffled.

78 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 12:06:24am

re: #77 teleskiguy

So fucking weird! I can tweet any other matter of nonsense or whatever, but I can’t tweet this:

I’m genuinely baffled.

Hmm, could it be a copyright thing?

79 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:07:18am

OK Lizard Tweeters, could you do me a favor?

Type in a tweet, just type in “d. boon” and try to tweet it and tell me what happens.

Pretty please?

If I start a tweet out with “d. boon” it won’t let me tweet it out, period, the end. Very weird.

80 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:16:03am

I have posted “allah is the devil” and many different combinations of obscenity (all deleted) on my twitter account and all posted successfully. But when I type the first 7 characters as “d. boon” no fucking dice. I’m weirded out, what’s wrong with starting your tweets out with “D. Boon”?

81 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 12:18:53am

re: #79 teleskiguy

OK Lizard Tweeters, could you do me a favor?

Type in a tweet, just type in “d. boon” and try to tweet it and tell me what happens.

Pretty please?

If I start a tweet out with “d. boon” it won’t let me tweet it out, period, the end. Very weird.

Won’t let me tweet that either.

82 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:21:21am

re: #81 Varek Raith

Won’t let me tweet that either.

I’m not crazy! YAY!

83 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 12:22:32am

I’m amazed I remembered my twitter login.
Signed up in 2011 because of the idiot stalkers and haven’t touched it since.
Heh.

84 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:25:05am

re: #83 Varek Raith

I’m amazed I remembered my twitter login.
Signed up in 2011 because of the idiot stalkers and haven’t touched it since.
Heh.

And they won’t let anybody tweet out anything where the tweet starts off with “d. boon”.

So freaking weird, man!

85 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 12:26:09am
86 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:27:03am

FWIW, I did get my original thought out on Twitter, I just had to not start the damn tweet with “d. boon” ‘cause I guess that’s not allowed.

87 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 12:27:05am

This is clearly the work of the Illuminati.

88 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 18, 2014 12:29:12am

Test post from the patron’s pc in our lobby. I think I have the thing to the point where IE works but Chrome is still bogged under this “speed dial” mal-ware crud that I don’t have permissions to clean up. Silly people downloading useless apps and then installing all kinds of other cruft with out noticing… :bang head:

89 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 12:30:22am

Hey Charles, I just followed you on twitter.

90 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:35:10am

re: #89 Varek Raith

Hey Charles, I just followed you on twitter.

Hey Varek Raith, I just followed YOU on Twitter, because reasons.

91 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 12:36:28am

re: #90 teleskiguy

Hey Varek Raith, I just followed YOU on Twitter, because reasons.

What he said.

92 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:37:31am

re: #91 Lidane

Lidane! Type in “d. boon” into a tweet and tell me what happens!

93 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 12:38:00am

With or without the quote marks?

94 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:38:45am

re: #93 Lidane

With or without the quote marks?

Without.

95 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 12:39:41am

I’m such a twitter noob.

96 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 12:40:04am

re: #94 teleskiguy

It posted for me. I’ve already deleted it, but it went through right away.

97 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:41:16am

OK, I saw that. (I hate to do this, I may seem paranoid. :( )

Type it as D period space Boon.

It didn;t work for Varek Raith, will it work for Lidane?

98 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 12:42:34am

It shouldn’t work at all. Typing it that way is you trying to send a direct message to someone with the username Boon.

Never mind. I’m an idiot. I read your instructions wrong. Hang on.

99 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:45:29am

re: #98 Lidane

It shouldn’t work at all. Typing it that way is you trying to send a direct message to someone with the username Boon.

Shouldn’t the username begin with a @ ?”

D. Boon

I type that into a tweet and I send, INTERNAL SERVER ERROR every time.

I’m genuinely baffled. Then again, I don’t know much about internet coding. Still, I (and Varek Raith) cannot start a tweet with the characters “D. Boon” starting it out.

100 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:48:59am

I’m sorry late-nite US Lizards out there for my Twitter nonsense. I just find it incredibly bizarre that I can’t start one of my tweets with the 7 characters “d. boon” in any of my tweets. I am forbidden to have the first seven characters in a tweet start out thusly: “d. boon”

101 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 18, 2014 12:50:23am

Could it be the D. part? Try, I dunno, W. Lewis or D. Tele and see if they post.

102 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 12:52:09am

That doesn’t work for me either.

My guess is that it is somehow related to the direct messaging function. Since you would normally type “d [username] [message]” to send a DM to someone mabye there’s something in Twitter’s code that automatically flags the “d.[text]” string at the start of a Tweet as a direct messaging error.

103 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:52:12am

re: #101 William Barnett-Lewis

Could it be the D. part? Try, I dunno, W. Lewis or D. Tele and see if they post.

W. Lewis posted.

D. part and D. tele did not post.

Hmm…

104 BadExampleMan  Jun 18, 2014 12:53:53am
105 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:54:39am

re: #102 Lidane

That doesn’t work for me either.

My guess is that it is somehow related to the direct messaging function. Since you would normally type “d [username] [message]” to send a DM to someone mabye there’s something in Twitter’s code that automatically flags the “d.[text]” string at the start of a Tweet as a direct messaging error.

This is probably the most logical explanation.

Man, you’d think that a NASDAQ company like Twitter would let its customers tweet out “D. (whatever)” without interference.

The internet is still very new technology to most.

106 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:57:42am

By the way, D. Boon was a gifted punk rocker from the early eighties. His band Minutemen has influenced countless rock n roll bands through the years. If you ever watched the program “Jackass” the first thing you heard was Minutemen’s song “Corona.”

107 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 12:59:40am

Heh! I just typed “d. asshole”

INTERNAL SERVER ERROR

108 teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2014 1:06:38am

Lesson learned. Lizards, if your tweet starts out with “d.” it’ll be summarily rejected by Twitter.

Good to know.

109 BadExampleMan  Jun 18, 2014 1:32:53am

Heh, heh, Twitter hates the D.

110 Kragar  Jun 18, 2014 2:15:19am

re: #109 BadExampleMan

Heh, heh, Twitter hates the D.

BLASPHEMY!

Youtube Video

111 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:01:04am
112 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 3:05:17am

Up at 6AM, because puppy. Ugh.

113 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:12:09am
A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

pungle

PRONUNCIATION:
(PUNG-uhl)

MEANING:
verb tr.: To make a payment; to shell out.

ETYMOLOGY:
Alteration of Spanish póngale (put it down), from poner (to put), from Latin ponere (to put). Ultimately from the Indo-European root apo- (off or away) that is also the source of after, off, awkward, post, puny, apposite, apropos, and dispositive. Earliest documented use: 1851.

No, it’s not a cross between a beagle and a pug, that is a puggle.

114 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:13:16am
115 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 3:13:38am

Looks like my Facebook wingnuts are going with the ‘Hillary book sales’ angle this morning.

Nothing is beyond belief for them. Nothing.

116 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:26:17am

I think, maybe, I will read this book.

117 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:26:34am

re: #115 makeitstop

Looks like my Facebook wingnuts are going with the ‘Hillary book sales’ angle this morning.

Nothing is beyond belief for them. Nothing.

Did the puppy go back to sleep?

118 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 3:30:10am

re: #117 FemNaziBitch

Did the puppy go back to sleep?

No, he’s still wandering around, looking for stuff to get into.

119 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:36:53am

Republican’s obsession with sex:

In a letter to Bangor News, Lockman once wrote “Clearly the practice of sodomy is learned behavior, and those addicted to this form of biologically-insane sex are at high risk for all manner of serious medical problems.”

Yes, Paged

120 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:37:18am

re: #118 makeitstop

No, he’s still wandering around, looking for stuff to get into.

Then why aren’t you playing with him? He has to be more fun than the computer.

121 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 3:38:45am

re: #120 FemNaziBitch

Then why aren’t you playing with him? He has to be more fun than the computer.

Good point! BBL

122 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 3:43:35am

re: #115 makeitstop

Looks like my Facebook wingnuts are going with the ‘Hillary book sales’ angle this morning.

Nothing is beyond belief for them. Nothing.

Mine have been surprisingly quiet so far. When all the stuff with ISIS started heating up a few of them were bleating about ZOMG OBUMMER LOST IRAQ but that lasted about a day.

These days, the so-called “libertarian” (i.e., the socon wingnut who won’t admit he’s a wingnut) is busy pimping some incoherent garbage about Satan being a librul. Another one is reduced to talking about music, and dogs and sharing the occasional Ayn Rand meme. A third one is spending more time talking about his family’s upcoming summer vacation, sending FB game requests and posting 80’s music videos. And the history buff and gun nut is babbling about some blog post speculating that space colonies might just be illegal.

I am amused.

123 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 3:47:12am
124 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 4:03:08am

These are horrible, vicious racists, but, Saba Ahmed has a little history of her own. Obviously, she’s doing this all wrong. Seems like a bright young woman, but very confused. She not only interned for Dems, but ran as a Dem for a cong seat 3 yrs ago, then switched to the Republican Party.

Saba Ahmed’s unusual race for an Oregon congressional seat

blog.oregonlive.com

She went on to switch from being a supportive Dem running for a House seat to registering Republican, because

“Never thought I would see this day, but I am officially a registered REPUBLICAN. Thank you to all the Oregon Democrats for helping me realize my Conservative Potential. Looking forward to 2012 Republican Victories!

(snip)

“(M)y conservative Islamic values (pro-life, pro-family values, pro-business) made it very hard for me to defend myself as a Democrat. George Bush advocated water boarding torture just like Obama advocated drone missiles. Both parties treat Muslims badly, which is why American economy is going bankrupt fighting Islam. Inshallah, I look forward to helping foster a better understanding of our faith…

“And yes I was banned from the Oregon Tea Party and Washington County Republicans earlier this year because of my Islamic beliefs, but I have to believe there is room for learning. I have to try and make a place for myself even if i’m unwelcomed. I know several tea party republicans hate me because they somehow blame me for 9/11. But I know once we talk to each other, get to know one another, we can all heal together. Inshallah!”

blog.oregonlive.com

125 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:13:03am

re: #124 Justanotherhuman

This are horrible, vicious racists, but, Saba Ahmed has a little history of her own. Obviously, she’s doing this all wrong. Seems like a bright young woman, but very confused. She not only interned for Dems, but ran as a Dem for a cong seat 3 yrs ago, then switched to the Republican Party.

Saba Ahmed’s unusual race for an Oregon congressional seat

blog.oregonlive.com

She went on to switch from being a supportive Dem running for a House seat to registering Republican, because

“Never thought I would see this day, but I am officially a registered REPUBLICAN. Thank you to all the Oregon Democrats for helping me realize my Conservative Potential. Looking forward to 2012 Republican Victories!

(snip)

“(M)y conservative Islamic values (pro-life, pro-family values, pro-business) made it very hard for me to defend myself as a Democrat. George Bush advocated water boarding torture just like Obama advocated drone missiles. Both parties treat Muslims badly, which is why American economy is going bankrupt fighting Islam. Inshallah, I look forward to helping foster a better understanding of our faith…

“And yes I was banned from the Oregon Tea Party and Washington County Republicans earlier this year because of my Islamic beliefs, but I have to believe there is room for learning. I have to try and make a place for myself even if i’m unwelcomed. I know several tea party republicans hate me because they somehow blame me for 9/11. But I know once we talk to each other, get to know one another, we can all heal together. Inshallah!”

blog.oregonlive.com

Ambition makes strange bedfellows?

126 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 4:19:49am

What do just 1,000 people know? How many follow current events with any intelligence and in depth? I hate to think this way because I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, but most people only pay attention to the evening news (if that) and many don’t even care about politics (until they’re called in a poll). Which is why I think polls like this are just pure bullshit to make headlines.

NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama’s Foreign Policy Rating Plummets, Even Without Iraq

nbcnews.com

“The NBC/WSJ poll was conducted June 11-15 of 1,000 adults (including 337 reached by cell phone), and it has an overall margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points.”

(Note: I got a poll call the other day which first asked me if I was registered as a Dem, Republican or other, and when I answered “Democratic”, they thanked me for answering but that was it. Officially, I’m registered as “Unaffiliated”.)

127 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:25:01am

This is a very well written article about Domestic Violence.

128 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 4:26:14am

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

Ambition makes strange bedfellows?

Yes, but look at this way; a lot of Muslims are what could be defined as more-or-less socially conservative, for the reasons she cited (I don’t count myself among that number) and for quite some time, they were a reliable GOP voting bloc.

Now the wingnuts have alienated American Muslims with their fanatical bigotry, and a good many have drifted to the Democratic Party as a result.

I can see what she’s trying to do, but my take on it is that the GOP is increasingly becoming a hardline Protestant white nationalist party - especially if the wingnut base gets its way. The GOP leadership itself faces a Catch-22: Either condemn this direction the party is taking and make an effort to get those folks out of the party - and in doing so, consign themselves to electoral oblivion until a new base can be built-up - or tolerate this nonsense, which will serve them for the foreseeable future until the wingnut base dies off (and let’s face it, most of the wingnut base is getting on in years) and then build a new, more inclusive base.

The danger for the GOP’s leadership is if the wingnut base completely take over the party and turn it into the aforementioned hardline Protestant white nationalist party in the immediate future, and by that, I mean over the next two presidential election cycles. Ironically enough, in that scenario the problem will resolve itself as the GOP will no longer be competitive on a national level, and they kiss the White House goodbye for quite some time.

I simply don’t see the wingnut base of the GOP accepting Muslims anytime soon.

And with that, I’ll be back in a bit.

129 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 4:26:38am

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

She said, “Both parties treat Muslims badly, which is why American economy is going bankrupt fighting Islam.”

So, if she thinks both parties treat Muslims badly, she is in way over her level of understanding, esp if she thinks Democrats aren’t “pro-life, pro-family values, pro-business”. Those are just a few choices we can make as Democrats. Republicans give you no options.

130 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:28:36am
131 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:29:48am

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

Yes, but look at this way; a lot of Muslims are what could be defined as more-or-less socially conservative, for the reasons she cited (I don’t count myself among that number) and for quite some time, they were a reliable GOP voting bloc.

Now the wingnuts have alienated American Muslims with their fanatical bigotry, and a good many have drifted to the Democratic Party as a result.

I can see what she’s trying to do, but my take on it is that the GOP is increasingly becoming a hardline Protestant white nationalist party - especially if the wingnut base gets its way. The GOP leadership itself faces a Catch-22: Either condemn this direction the party is taking and make an effort to get those folks out of the party - and in doing so, consign themselves to electoral oblivion until a new base can be built-up - or tolerate this nonsense, which will serve them for the foreseeable future until the wingnut base dies off (and let’s face it, most of the wingnut base is getting on in years) and then build a new, more inclusive base.

The danger for the GOP’s leadership is if the wingnut base completely take over the party and turn it into the aforementioned hardline Protestant white nationalist party in the immediate future, and by that, I mean over the next two presidential election cycles. Ironically enough, in that scenario the problem will resolve itself as the GOP will no longer be competitive on a national level, and they kiss the White House goodbye for quite some time.

I simply don’t see the wingnut base of the GOP accepting Muslims anytime soon.

And with that, I’ll be back in a bit.

They’ll use her as a “token” Muslim so the choir can feel good about themselves.

132 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 4:30:02am
133 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 4:30:52am
134 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 4:31:54am

re: #109 BadExampleMan

Heh, heh, Twitter hates the D.

Detroit haz a sad. :(

135 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:32:48am
136 Eventual Carrion  Jun 18, 2014 4:34:24am

re: #135 FemNaziBitch

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Look ma, no cavities!

137 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:36:19am
138 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 4:40:07am
139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 4:42:06am

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

One can also say that a lot of Latin American immigrants are socially conservative, but the GOP has managed to alienate them as well in order to play to its shrinking base.

And in the end that will be their downfall. Politics is about engaging people in dialogue and winning them over to your side, not branding a anyone who disagrees with you as a terrorist/moocher/loser/traitor/fascist/baby-killer, etc. while constantly narrowing the window of “acceptable” viewpoints

140 Flounder  Jun 18, 2014 4:42:36am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

Wrong animal, should be the honey badger, because the honey badger doesn’t give a shit.

141 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 18, 2014 4:46:34am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

One can also say that a lot of Latin American immigrants are socially conservative, but the GOP has managed to alienate them as well in order to play to its shrinking base.

And in the end that will be their downfall. Politics is about engaging people in dialogue and winning them over to your side, not branding a anyone who disagrees with you as a terrorist/moocher/loser/traitor/fascist/baby-killer, etc. while constantly narrowing the window of “acceptable” viewpoints

Yeah, but the current TPGOP platform seems to be: (1) deport all the people we don’t like (2) if that doesn’t work, marginalize them (3) if that doesn’t work, make sure they can’t vote (4) meanwhile, ship middle class jobs overseas while taxing the middle class more (5) creating more lower class people with less political power (7) GOTO (1)

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 4:49:25am

Very intense thunderstorms going on here.

143 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:51:49am
144 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:52:25am

re: #142 Pie-onist Overlord

Very intense thunderstorms going on here.

We are supposed to get them.

145 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:52:58am
146 Flounder  Jun 18, 2014 4:55:29am

re: #145 FemNaziBitch

For whatever reason, that reminds me of this scene in Poltergeist. Be warned, you will want to hurl, toss the cookies, have a technicolor yawn.

Youtube Video

Sorry, too early?

147 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 4:57:13am

re: #146 Flounder

For whatever reason, that reminds me of this scene in Poltergeist. Be warned, you will want to hurl, toss the cookies, have a rainbow yawn.

[Embedded content]

Video

Sorry, too early?

yes too early.

even with 2 cuppas.

:)

148 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 5:05:25am
IMF to the U.S.: Raise your minimum wage: On Monday, the IMF issued its annual review of the American economy, downgrading the U.S. GDP growth forecast to 2% this year (it’s usually over 3%). The IMF also included a long list of recommendations to boost the economy — and for the first time, the list included raising the minimum wage. “[G]iven its current low level (compared both to U.S. history and international standards), the minimum wage should be increased,” the IMF wrote. “This would help raise incomes for millions of working poor and … ensure a meaningful increase in after-tax earnings for the nation’s poorest households.”

from Policy Mic email digest.

Link in quote takes you to the article.

149 Romantic Heretic  Jun 18, 2014 5:07:31am
America has been infiltrated on all levels by radicals who wish to harm America,” she said.

Lady? I don’t think your fellow wingnuts appreciate you giving away their plans like that.

150 FemNaziBitch  Jun 18, 2014 5:11:11am

going back to bed.

bbl

151 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 18, 2014 5:12:22am
152 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 5:14:44am

re: #127 FemNaziBitch

This is a very well written article about Domestic Violence.

How do you change any culture that tells women they must have a man, be dependent on him, keep pumping out babies, subject themselves to him, and not have the means to make their own way in life?

Women have always had to do it ourselves. You have to keep the whip hand yourself, be in control of your own destiny even if it means going against the grain.

153 Romantic Heretic  Jun 18, 2014 5:15:24am

re: #48 CuriousLurker

I don’t know how many of you saw when I posted YouTube video about Boko Haram from the Naval War College in a semi-snarky comment to KT yesterday or the day before, but I sat down and watched the entire thing last night and was particularly struck by his mention of American Muslims being able to make a difference.

In one instance he talked about how a group of American imams traveled to Nigeria and talked to Nigerian imams and got some of the to change their minds on some radical ideas. The other thing was American Muslims getting together and creating a photo gallery of mosques in the U.S. He said the Nigerians were like, “Oh, well they just haven’t burned them down yet…” They were truly shocked to learn that (bumps in the road & the professional Islamophobes notwithstanding) we’re free to practice Islam in peace & safety here.

If these assholes would HELP us reach out instead of fear mongering and trying to marginalize & demonize us, we might be able to make a real difference where radicalism is concerned, both here and overseas.

But I guess they’re making too much money with their hate to care. *SIGH*

Well, they’re not just getting rich. They’re getting high. Essentially they’re low level dealers in the drugs fear, anger and hate.

154 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 5:17:08am
155 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 18, 2014 5:24:45am

Boo!

156 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 18, 2014 5:39:10am

re: #137 FemNaziBitch

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Isn’t it appropriate that the Teahadi symbol is a snake in the grass?

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157 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 18, 2014 5:41:13am
158 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 5:42:02am

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

looks like ground beef from up there…

159 De Kolta Chair  Jun 18, 2014 5:45:40am

Speaking of Ralph Reed, he was on Bill Maher’s show the other night and I was disappointed, but not surprised, that Maher hit the smirking little weasel with questions about contradictions in the bible instead of about his sleazy political activities.

160 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 5:53:28am

STUPID MEME OF THE DAY (but it’s early)

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 5:54:22am

I DON’T NEED FEMINISM BECAUSE
I’M PERFECTLY HAPPY WORKING FOR LESS PAY!

162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 5:55:52am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

I DON’T NEED FEMINISM BECAUSE
I’M PERFECTLY HAPPY WORKING FOR LESS PAY!

She defines herself by her own standards, remember?

(or she has a man who earns enough to make up the difference)

163 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 5:56:41am

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

STUPID MEME OF THE DAY (but it’s early)
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She has “problems”, all right.

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 6:03:05am
165 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:07:05am

Oh my. Certainly not by Libyans.

Libyan minister says arrest of Benghazi suspect is an ‘attack on Libyan sovereignty,’ captured suspect should be tried in Libya - @Reuters
End of alert
2

166 GunstarGreen  Jun 18, 2014 6:09:08am
The State Department is infested with communists Muslims. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party Muslim Faith and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department.

Time has gone full circle! My brain is collapsing in on itself!

167 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:16:57am

I don’t need feminism because I’m happy being told I should be obedient to men.

168 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 6:17:17am

At this same “hearing” Gaffney also reiterated one of his longstanding pet conspiracies, that Huma Abedin is a Muslim Brotherhood plant shifting US foreign policy to the whims of the Muslims.

Yeah, he’s one we should take seriously.

So, yes, everyone was polite during the exchanges, even though they were positing dubious and debunked conspiracy theories, exploring the depths of their hate towards Muslims, and pursuing Benghazi conspiracies as fast as their little troubled hearts will allow.

169 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:17:57am

re: #159 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of Ralph Reed, he was on Bill Maher’s show the other night and I was disappointed, but not surprised, that Maher hit the smirking little weasel with questions about contradictions in the bible instead of about his sleazy political activities.

Seriously, Maher can go after the contradictions that exist in the Bible with any Christian guest. Reed OTOH is a crook.

170 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 6:20:28am

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards.

Please fetch forth the tuna, with all speed!

heh, my feline overlords provided some midnight entertainment when they caught a very small bat.
Fortunately, I was able to rescue the bat, which was very VERY happy when I released it outdoors.
This morning, the kittehs are looking for the bat where it was last sighted on the bathroom floor.

171 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 6:21:19am

Curious Lurker:

I checked into the problem with the feed links in Charles’ linking on the sidebar, and I don’t think the problem is on my end.

I use an atom feed for rss, lawhawk.blogspot.com, which then gets translated to feeds.feedburner.com. That process provides working links as you can see.

So, unless there’s something else I’m missing on my end (which is quite possible), I think this is something that Charles would have to look into.

172 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 6:21:40am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Seriously, Maher can go after the contradictions that exist in the Bible with any Christian guest. Reed OTOH is a crook.

I would suspect that Reed had some preconditions about questions before agreeing to appear. That would be one alternative to Maher simply being afraid to ask a question to Reed about his political activities.

173 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:22:08am

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

I would suspect that Reed had some preconditions about questions before agreeing to appear. That would be one alternative to Maher simply being afraid to ask a question to Reed about his political activities.

That does make sense.

174 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:22:13am

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

I just noticed: is she naked? Doesn’t own a comb or brush? Where did that photo come from?

175 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:24:17am

Egyptian court sentenced 12 supporters of ousted Islamist president Mohammed Morsi to death - @AFP
Read more on alarabiya.net

176 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 6:24:18am

re: #174 Justanotherhuman

I just noticed: is she naked? Doesn’t own a comb or brush? Where did that photo come from?

Found it in this wingnut’s Tweet:

177 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 6:24:55am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh, my feline overlords provided some midnight entertainment when they caught a very small bat.
Fortunately, I was able to rescue the bat, which was very VERY happy when I released it outdoors.
This morning, the kittehs are looking for the bat where it was last sighted on the bathroom floor.

They did their standard race around the apartment last night after lights out and then settled down. The one pictured above is pretty laid back in the morning. He’ll snooze on the office chair or come onto the bed and lie next to me until I decide to get up. The other one, OTOH, wants me up at the crack of dawn. She might opt to lie on the bed by my feet for a while, but once the alarm goes off and I turn it off and don’t get up she starts knocking objects off the night stand or dresser until I *do* get up.

178 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:29:58am

re: #176 Pie-onist Overlord

Found it in this wingnut’s Tweet:

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Originally came from Reddit, so who knows. reddit.com

179 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:31:01am

I don’t need feminism because I don’t use a dictionary and nor do I appreciate what was done before me.

180 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 6:31:31am

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

Ohhh… that’s ripe for a fisking.

I’ll work from the bottom up:

You don’t demonize men and blame them for your problems. I guess she doesn’t have a problem with fact that women make a fraction of what men make for the same job. Wage equality eliminating gender bias is something foreign to her, even though that affects her (and every other woman) directly and reduces her net worth by tens of thousands (or more) of dollars over her life.

You’re not a target of violence…. until you are. And when you are, it can be sexual assaults, precisely because you’re a woman.

The war against women is one that is reducing their rights to control what they can do with their body - whether it’s getting access to abortions or access to birth control as part of health insurance policies. Limiting access to abortions and birth control puts women at a disadvantage that applies in particular to women with limited economic means, and traps them with few options.

You don’t need someone else to empower you…except that your right to vote was done because some other group of women sought your empowerment. This woman’s views of empowerment and feminism are so narrow, that she ignores that women are in the position they’re in because other women fought for those rights and positions - and the fight will continue until there’s parity on socio-economic and political issues.

The “taking responsibility for your own actions” is just fine, until you look at the fine print (all of the above).

181 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 6:32:23am

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

What.

182 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 6:32:37am

The feline overlord’s morning entertainment is watching the antics of this device - which has been erected in the parking lot across the street.

Migratory Crane

Crane, Church, and Comcast

183 De Kolta Chair  Jun 18, 2014 6:32:40am

re: #168 lawhawk

So, yes, everyone was polite during the exchanges, even though they were positing dubious and debunked conspiracy theories, exploring the depths of their hate towards Muslims, and pursuing Benghazi conspiracies as fast as their little troubled hearts will allow.

Before 2008, the panel discussion would have been about UFO’s and Area 51.

184 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 6:34:39am

Captured Suspect Said Benghazi Attack Was Revenge For Anti-Islam Video

Has Fox “News” apologized to Susan Rice yet?

185 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:34:57am

Frankly that meme gets at what many of us have agreed to be what defines conservatism. A bunch of people who want to live in modern society without having to pay for it and deal with it. It’s so easy to hate on feminists I guess if you take for granted the fact that suffrage for women isn’t even a century old, that spousal rape only became a crime in many states a generation ago, etc. Being a right winger is all about glorifying a mystical past that never was.

186 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 6:36:38am

re: #182 Feline Fearless Leader

The feline overlord’s morning entertainment is watching the antics of this device - which has been erected in the parking lot across the street.

Migratory Crane

[Embedded image]Crane, Church, and Comcast

I bet your cat would be at the top of it if you let it…

187 Flounder  Jun 18, 2014 6:37:09am

re: #182 Feline Fearless Leader

Sweet crane!
Look at that telescopic boom!!!

I pick things up, I put them down.

188 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 6:37:17am

That meme is pretty much a fucking fail by all accounts because none of those points have anything to do with feminism. Assholes

189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 6:37:40am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

It is also unfortunately assumed that these advances in women’s, gay and minority rights will be maintained once they have been won.

The GOP is doing a great job of reminding everyone that the struggle is still going on.

190 geoffm33  Jun 18, 2014 6:38:04am

re: #178 Justanotherhuman

Originally came from Reddit, so who knows. reddit.com

Best comment on that reddit thread:

Yep, I would defend feminism and outline the issues with this girl’s attempt at mocking it, but then I remember the main demographic of reddit is white 18-25 year old men and I just close the internet browser and read a book.

191 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 18, 2014 6:38:49am
192 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 6:38:54am

re: #188 Dr. Matt

That meme is pretty much a fucking fail by all accounts because none of those points have anything to do with feminism. Assholes

They all have to do with some straw man they call “feminism”, which seems (in their minds) to have to do with women cutting off men’s dicks and forcing them into gay marriages…

193 De Kolta Chair  Jun 18, 2014 6:40:22am

With apologies to Irina Dunn, “I don’t need feminism like a fish needs a bicycle.”

194 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:40:25am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is also unfortunately assumed that these advances in women’s, gay and minority rights will be maintained once they have been won.

The GOP is doing a great job of reminding everyone that the struggle is still going on.

Right, and with unions you too often hear this phrase- “Unions were once needed but we don’t need them anymore.”

195 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:41:05am

re: #188 Dr. Matt

That meme is pretty much a fucking fail by all accounts because none of those points have anything to do with feminism. Assholes

Right, goes with the whole bs that feminist means hating men.

196 geoffm33  Jun 18, 2014 6:41:42am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Right, and with unions you too often hear this phrase- “Unions were once needed but we don’t need them anymore.”

Or voting rights act.

197 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:42:41am

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

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Sad that the Russians beat the US by 20 years sending a woman into space.

198 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:42:54am

re: #196 geoffm33

Or voting rights act.

Agh and then Roberts’ extremely naive and ignorant claim that racism really isn’t a problem anymore.

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 6:42:56am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Right, and with unions you too often hear this phrase- “Unions wereThe minimum wage was once needed but we don’t need it anymore.”

200 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:43:23am

re: #196 geoffm33

Or voting rights act.

Or affirmative action.

201 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 6:44:04am

re: #188 Dr. Matt

That meme is pretty much a fucking fail by all accounts because none of those points have anything to do with feminism. Assholes

I’m looking for a 1950’s illustration of a woman with a bunch of shopping bags saying WHO NEEDS EQUALITY, I’M RICH & WHITE.

202 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 6:44:27am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

re: #196 geoffm33

Yet, these same idiots believe drunk women who are sexually assaulted shouldn’t make a fuss. I have read this in comments sections more times than you could imagine.

203 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 6:45:34am

re: #174 Justanotherhuman

I just noticed: is she naked? Doesn’t own a comb or brush? Where did that photo come from?

She’s wearing a tank top or something similar: You can see brown fabric on her side and a strap goes up her right (our left) shoulder that’s a lighter color of brown than her hair.

204 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 6:46:50am
205 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:47:29am

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m looking for a 1950’s illustration of a woman with a bunch of shopping bags saying WHO NEEDS EQUALITY, I’M RICH & WHITE.

Doris Duke.

harpersbazaar.com

206 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 6:49:35am

So, according to twitter, Cheney made an asshole comment about Obama being out of touch and Chuck Todd cites a poll and says “Obama is done.” Conservatives really are upset about the Benghazi guy getting caught.

207 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:50:21am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t disagree but you hear the phrase more with unions.

208 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 6:51:28am
209 GunstarGreen  Jun 18, 2014 6:51:52am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Right, goes with the whole bs that feminist means hating men.

In fairness, the issue is pretty annoyingly confounded by those few nutbars who do legitimately hate men and claim feminism as their cause.

210 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 6:51:55am

It does seem that when the entire GOP gets caught going over the cliff with outrageous statements that they trot Cheney out to spout some nonsense that eclipses even then dumbest misstatements by the GOP.

This isn’t an accident.

211 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 6:52:49am

re: #206 darthstar

So, according to twitter, Cheney made an asshole comment about Obama being out of touch and Chuck Todd cites a poll and says “Obama is done.” Conservatives really are upset about the Benghazi guy getting caught.

Yup,

212 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 6:53:06am

They think Cheney’s going to make them look more in touch?

213 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 6:53:35am

re: #210 b.d.

It does seem that when the entire GOP gets caught going over the cliff with outrageous statements that they trot Cheney out to spout some nonsense that eclipses even then dumbest misstatements by the GOP.

This isn’t an accident.

It’s like in those movies where the little demons are all getting their asses kicked by the hero and then the ground splits open and a monstrous Satan rises up and spews fiery bile over everyone.

214 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 6:55:36am

re: #208 darthstar

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I think that the mullet probably never went out of style in some of the more wretched hinterlands of the US.

215 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 6:55:43am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

They think Cheney’s going to make them look more in touch?

Everybody starts talking about how nutzo Cheney’s statement is and they forget about all of the other recent nutzo statements by the rest of the GOP.

Deflection. It works. Every time. And Cheney doesn’t mind.

216 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 6:55:45am

re: #205 Justanotherhuman

Doris Duke.

harpersbazaar.com

What I’m looking for is one of those stereotypical illustrations. Something like this:

217 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 6:55:57am

re: #209 GunstarGreen

In fairness, the issue is pretty annoyingly confounded by those few nutbars who do legitimately hate men and claim feminism as their cause.

There’s a difference between hating men and hating what they do to women.

218 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 6:56:07am

re: #206 darthstar

So, according to twitter, Cheney made an asshole comment about Obama being out of touch and Chuck Todd cites a poll and says “Obama is done.” Conservatives really are upset about the Benghazi guy getting caught.

Well Obama is done. 22nd Amendment and all….

219 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 6:56:31am
220 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 6:56:56am
221 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 6:57:29am

Chuck Todd is wearing his Wednesday GOP knee-pads.

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 6:58:14am

re: #220 darthstar

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They just hit them right where it counts: in the marketing and licensing rights…

223 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 6:59:11am

re: #220 darthstar

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Wow!

Now the Washington football team will have to change its logo because all of this is really just about money. No licensed gear to sell? No way.

224 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 7:00:07am

re: #215 b.d.

Everybody starts talking about how nutzo Cheney’s statement is and they forget about all of the other recent nutzo statements by the rest of the GOP.

I just wish Cheney were nuts enough to do something like vacation in Ibiza so someone like Balthasar Garzon could order the handcuffs slapped on him. There wouldn’t be enough popcorn in the world to enjoy the wingnut howling to follow.

Alas, Cheney seems to realize that he’d best not do any international travel for the rest of his life.

225 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 7:00:43am
226 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:00:48am

ICYMI, this morning from the NYT

The president of the board of supervisors, Lee Caldwell, a fellow Republican, can riff extensively on the local infrastructure projects that Mr. Cochran, Mississippi’s powerful senior senator, has helped bring to fruition, thanks to his skill at procuring federal funds: The construction of the air-traffic control tower at the Olive Branch Airport. The new east-west stretch of Interstate, which will bisect the county when completed. And a state-of-the-art regional sewer system that solved a chronic wastewater management problem, allowing DeSoto County to attract new industry and build new neighborhoods.

Yeah but people on welfares and foodstamps and spending ARGH!!11

“Everybody’s got their hand out like these damn people at the food stamp office,” Mr. Harris, 67, said between sips of coffee on Thursday at a local barbecue restaurant. “They’ve got to put an end to all of this spending.”

Others, like Jane Buehl Coln of Olive Branch, suspect that whatever benefits have come to Mississippi have come at a steep price.
“There’s no telling what kinds of liberal things he had to vote for to get those kinds of things for Mississippi — what kind of trading he had to do,” she said.

(snip)

Marty Wiseman, a political science professor and the former director of the John C. Stennis Institute of Government and Community Development at Mississippi State University, said he was astonished that so many voters were choosing Mr. McDaniel in a state with the nation’s highest poverty rate and lowest median household income and, according to the Tax Foundation, a nonprofit Washington think tank, one that receives the highest level of federal aid as a percentage of state revenue.

“It’s the strangest thing I’ve ever seen,” said Professor Wiseman, who considers himself a liberal by Mississippi standards. “It defies logic or reason for somebody to not only run on cutting off the supply of federal money to Mississippi, but to actually be winning the race.”

Americka:shooting our nose off to spite our face

Read the whole thing

nytimes.com

227 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:00:51am

Good on the patent office.

228 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 7:00:54am

re: #224 Ian G.

Alas, Cheney seems to realize that he’d best not do any international travel for the rest of his life.

He only travels to undisclosed locations…force of habit.

229 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:00:59am

I still think they should just change the logo to a potato.

I know I know that’s what PETA wants but this is the ONE AND ONLY TIME I agree with PETA about anything.

230 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 7:01:42am

re: #220 darthstar

Will be appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, along with a temporary order delaying the Trademarks Board’s enforcement of their decision.

231 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 7:01:47am

That’ll probably force the NFL and Washington team owner to change the team name, though they’ll probably appeal the ruling even though it was the right one (and will likely set precedent for other sports teams around the nation that use similar terms).

Of course, a few are complaining that this is another sign of a bureaucracy run amok. That’s a bogus complaint since the US PTO has rules for trademarking, and that includes a prohibition of terms, phrases, and images that are disparaging. The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board ruled on the case, brought by a Native American against the team’s trademarks, and won.

Allowing the trademark to stand would have undermined the existing regulation prohibiting derogatory trademarks (in other words, allowing a group like the KKK or a white supremacist group to file trademarks and protect their use - like say against the SPLC that goes after these hate groups).

232 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:02:48am

re:
#225

Has it only been 21 years? Seems longer…

233 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:03:20am

GLENN GREENWALD IS NOT A LIBERAL U FREAKING IDIOT

234 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:03:46am

Was at a family function the other day. My uncle was wondering why no one in the NA community raised a fuss in the past. My Dad had to remind him that when the Redskins were founded that no one was listening to what NA people had to say anyhow and then I pointed out that the Redskins were founded by a white supremacist prick who nearly lost the team’s stadium lease with the DOI because he refused to integrate.

235 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 7:03:48am

re: #231 lawhawk

This follows a pattern set by courts on race-related issues. Namely that you can write a whites-only covenant in a property deed, for example, but no court will enforce it.

Now they are saying that you can use disparaging names but no court will uphold your right to trademark them.

236 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 7:04:42am

re: #231 lawhawk

Wow. First Donald Sterling get booted from owning the Clippers, now this. It’s nice to see some of the more odious elements in pro sports get their just desserts. Now can we order Jeffrey Loria to give a refund with interest to the taxpayers of Miami-Dade County?

237 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:04:56am

re:
#221

They just never wear out, do they?

238 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 7:04:56am
239 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:04:59am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This follows a pattern set by courts on race-related issues. Namely that you can write a whites-only covenant in a property deed, for example, but no court will enforce it.

Now they are saying that you can use disparaging names but no court will uphold your right to trademark them.

Essentially they’re saying sure you have the right to use the name but don’t expect the u.S government to protect your right to sell merchandise with that disparaging name and logo. Smart move. We’ll see what really matters to Snyder soon.

240 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 7:09:02am

re: #238 darthstar

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Young, hip and deadly, no doubt.

241 NJDhockeyfan  Jun 18, 2014 7:09:40am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Chuck Todd is wearing his Wednesday GOP knee-pads.

You mean for this?

242 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 7:10:55am

re: #231 lawhawk

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That’ll probably force the NFL and Washington team owner to change the team name, though they’ll probably appeal the ruling even though it was the right one (and will likely set precedent for other sports teams around the nation that use similar terms).

Of course, a few are complaining that this is another sign of a bureaucracy run amok. That’s a bogus complaint since the US PTO has rules for trademarking, and that includes a prohibition of terms, phrases, and images that are disparaging. The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board ruled on the case, brought by a Native American against the team’s trademarks, and won.

Allowing the trademark to stand would have undermined the existing regulation prohibiting derogatory trademarks (in other words, allowing a group like the KKK or a white supremacist group to file trademarks and protect their use - like say against the SPLC that goes after these hate groups).

After reading the decision (note: I’m not a lawyer nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night), the decision merely prohibited them from registering the trademark. They can still enforce the trademark, although it would be harder to do so in court.

243 iossarian  Jun 18, 2014 7:12:39am

re: #187 Flounder

Sweet crane!
Look at that telescopic boom!!!

I pick things up, I put them down.

Auto +1 for “I pick things up, I put them down.”

244 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 7:13:11am
245 Decatur Deb  Jun 18, 2014 7:14:18am

Randall G. got a heavy Wonkette h/t:

wonkette.com

246 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:16:32am

What annoys me though is how people blindly defend the name and logo. And claim the name is about pride. It’s about your pride that you’ve gotten from watching a team with that name on the football field and you would have gotten that same pride if the team had the same success in the past using the nickname the “Washington Tinkerbells.” There’s never been any attempt to think “Gee, this logo and name may be offensive.” I still contend and this is no defense of these people who accept the logo and name but they accept it because it’s what they’ve always known. The rage you get from Washingtonian and other DC area fans when you criticize the name is telling too.

247 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:18:32am

re:
#245

Nothing to see here but some Occupy hasbeen LLALAlalalalalalalllalaal FReedom!!! BENGHAZI!!!!111

248 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 7:20:43am

re: #242 Timothy Watson

The ruling cancels the trademarks (pending the expiration of the appeal period); without the trademark, they can’t protect its use against others using it (for other purposes), and Snyder can’t sue someone over infringements.

249 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:22:49am

re: #248 lawhawk

The ruling cancels the trademarks (pending the expiration of the appeal period); without the trademark, they can’t protect its use against others using it (for other purposes), and Snyder can’t sue someone over infringements.

So hypothetical if I use the logo and use it to make shirts without the Redskins knowing, I can’t be prosecuted or sued for copyright infringement?

250 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 7:23:59am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

So hypothetical if I use the logo and use it to make shirts without the Redskins knowing, I can’t be prosecuted or sued for copyright infringement?

Or, even better, if you use it to parodize the Redskins or sell T-shirts saying that “this is bullshit”, they have no legal means to stop you…

251 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:24:04am

STAY CLASSY ERICK

252 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 7:24:11am

re: #248 lawhawk

The ruling cancels the trademarks (pending the expiration of the appeal period); without the trademark, they can’t protect its use against others using it (for other purposes), and Snyder can’t sue someone over infringements.

You have common law trademark rights over a trademark rather it’s registered or not.

253 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:26:46am

re: #251 Pie-onist Overlord

STAY CLASSY ERICK

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What’s that pathetic loser babbling about now.

254 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 7:28:20am

re: #248 lawhawk

The ruling cancels the trademarks (pending the expiration of the appeal period); without the trademark, they can’t protect its use against others using it (for other purposes), and Snyder can’t sue someone over infringements.

And, as I said previously, the ruling doesn’t cancel the trademark, it cancels its registration:

As explained below, we decide, based on the evidence properly before us, that these registrations must be cancelled because they were disparaging to Native Americans at the respective times they were registered, in violation of Section 2(a) of the Trademark Act of 1946, 15 U.S.C. § 1052(a). This decision concerns only the statutory right to registration under Section 2(a). We lack statutory authority to issue rulings concerning the right to use trademarks. See, e.g., In re Franklin Press, Inc., 597 F.2d 270, 201 USPQ 662, 664 (CCPA 1979). (p. 2 at link, emphasis in original)

255 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 7:28:46am

re: #187 Flounder

Sweet crane!
Look at that telescopic boom!!!

I pick things up, I put them down.

It’s currently putting stuff on top of a nearby building. Will have to wait until lunch to get a picture of it in upright mode.

256 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:28:48am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

What’s that pathetic loser babbling about now.

He’s butthurt that the Redskins trademark got cancelled.

257 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:29:35am

re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s butthurt that the Redskins trademark got cancelled.

Gotcha, something’s always up his ass.

258 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 7:29:43am

re: #251 Pie-onist Overlord

STAY CLASSY ERICK

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HOW DARE THE PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW!!!1!!!1!

CLEARLY, THE PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!1!!!1

259 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:30:10am

re: #258 Timothy Watson

HOW DARE THE PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE FOLLOW FEDERAL LAW!!!1!!!1!

CLEARLY, THE PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!1!!!1

The patent office is an example of Marxist Fascist Shariah.

260 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 7:30:54am

The trademark was not cancelled, it was just ruled unenforceable…just like the government cannot enforce a “whites only” sign above a lunch counter

261 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 7:30:56am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

The patent office is an example of Marxist Fascist CommieNazi Gay Shariah.

FTFY.

262 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 7:31:29am

re: #216 Pie-onist Overlord

What I’m looking for is one of those stereotypical illustrations. Something like this:
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That picture makes me wonder what pill she just took, or maybe it was only a double expresso.

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 7:32:43am

Historic Black Cemetery Bulldozed

(HOUSTON) — A cemetery dating back to the 1800s, with the bodies of slaves and African-Americans who fought in wars and were denied a proper burial, is being bulldozed by heavy equipment, and the family who owns the land says they don’t even know who is responsible.
The Bradshaw Cemetery is clearly marked on Rand McNally maps and Key Maps, yet heavy equipment started clearing a large swath through the area Monday, seemingly without warning.

264 darthstar  Jun 18, 2014 7:32:52am
265 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 7:34:08am

re: #252 Timothy Watson

The common law rights may prevent someone else from trying to use the trademark, but that becomes an uphill battle, and isn’t worth the time or effort. But the PTO indicates that registering this particular trademark isn’t possible as a violation of federal law.

Common law rights can prevent someone else from registering the trademark or challenge an application, but that’s not the issue here. The Board ruled you can’t hold a valid federal trademark, and it’s up to Snyder and the NFL to figure out what to do.

If I were the NFL, I’d move to get the name changed, and push for new jerseys too (since that’s a huge cashflow for the team and league).

266 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:35:06am

re:
#251

Erick son of Erick didn’t even wait long enough for me to snark that some RWNJ would soon tweet out a grievance about the Patent Office.

267 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:36:00am

re: #262 Feline Fearless Leader

That picture makes me wonder what pill she just took, or maybe it was only a double expresso.

Benzedrine

268 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 7:36:14am

re: #265 lawhawk

The common law rights may prevent someone else from trying to use the trademark, but that becomes an uphill battle, and isn’t worth the time or effort. But the PTO indicates that registering this particular trademark isn’t possible as a violation of federal law.

Common law rights can prevent someone else from registering the trademark or challenge an application, but that’s not the issue here. The Board ruled you can’t hold a valid federal trademark, and it’s up to Snyder and the NFL to figure out what to do.

If I were the NFL, I’d move to get the name changed, and push for new jerseys too (since that’s a huge cashflow for the team and league).

No argument on any of those points, I was just getting annoyed at how the media was explaining the case.

269 iossarian  Jun 18, 2014 7:38:05am

re: #264 darthstar

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I always want to ask these clowns what happened to “turning the other cheek”. Somehow that gets interpreted to mean “come up with a clunky-yet-insulting comeback”.

270 Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2014 7:38:43am

re: #220 darthstar

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Well, that’s less a shot across the bow as much as a torpedo up the arse.

271 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 7:39:17am

re: #265 lawhawk

The common law rights may prevent someone else from trying to use the trademark, but that becomes an uphill battle, and isn’t worth the time or effort. But the PTO indicates that registering this particular trademark isn’t possible as a violation of federal law.

Common law rights can prevent someone else from registering the trademark or challenge an application, but that’s not the issue here. The Board ruled you can’t hold a valid federal trademark, and it’s up to Snyder and the NFL to figure out what to do.

If I were the NFL, I’d move to get the name changed, and push for new jerseys too (since that’s a huge cashflow for the team and league).

And there will also be a massive run on the old logo as well. Collectors and, of course, those who will embrace it as a misplaced way to protest authority.

272 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 7:40:49am

re: #251 Pie-onist Overlord

STAY CLASSY ERICK

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I like the open racism of the right. It should serve as a sharp reminder to anyone of non-northern European heritage that this is what you get by pulling the level for the GOP.

273 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:41:18am
274 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 7:45:10am

re: #273 Pie-onist Overlord

Having Zero effect on the civil rights of US citizens, which was one of Greenwald’s and Snowden’s ongoing claims as to why he stole these documents and then released them.

Instead, all we’ve got is a series of releases and reports that undermine the NSA operations across the world, revealing means and methods that have nothing to do with US civil rights, and everything to do with hobbling US national security and intel gathering policies and procedures.

And Snowden is staying put in a country that stands to benefit most from undermining US intel gathering means and methods.

275 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:45:21am

From the NYT article on the Mississippi Senate race I posted above (or below if reading in Spy):

For Tim Cole, a blackjack dealer and used car detailer, the issue was not so much what Mr. Cochran had brought home, but what Mr. McDaniel could bring to Washington. Mr. Cole, 50, said he believed that Mr. McDaniel would do a better job of representing his conservative values, which included an opposition to President Obama’s health care law and to same-sex marriage.

Even if it takes us getting poorer and poorer still we still musts gets rid of Obamacare and the same sex marriage1

The new Interstate? Mr. Cole said that had been built only to give gamblers an easier route to the casinos in neighboring Tunica County — Mr. Cochran’s gift, he said, to the casino owners.

What need has we of any roadz? REPEAL OBMACARE!!!

And the rest of the local projects? Mr. Cole said he would rather take a gamble on a world without such Washington perks.

This should be an interesting experiment. Can’t wait to see how it turns out.

“I can’t wait for the whole system to be turned upside down,” he said.

This should end well.

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 7:45:30am

re: #272 Ian G.

I like the open racism of the right. It should serve as a sharp reminder to anyone of non-northern European heritage that this is what you get by pulling the level for the GOP.

Pull the lever today. Pull the plow tomorrow.
;P

277 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:52:11am

Wingnuts are whining that the Patent Office is attacking “Free Speech” WTF.

278 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 7:53:24am

re: #272 Ian G.

I like the open racism of the right. It should serve as a sharp reminder to anyone of non-northern European heritage that this is what you get by pulling the level for the GOP.

It was a strategic decision whose outcome was wrested from the control of the establishment starting in 2008: appeal to the red-meat base by simultaneously denying the racism in their own ranks and accusing everyone else of reverse racism.

279 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 7:54:23am

re: #277 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are whining that the Patent Office is attacking “Free Speech” WTF.

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and demonstrating again that they have no idea of what comprises “free speech”…

280 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:55:40am
281 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 7:56:31am
282 Killgore Trout  Jun 18, 2014 7:57:13am

No surprise here: Iran using Iraq as leverage in nuclear talks
Iran Could Work with U.S. in Iraq if Nuclear Talks Succeed

A top Iranian official said on Wednesday that Tehran could consider working with the United States over the crisis in Iraq if talks on its nuclear program are successful.

Asked about possible cooperation in Iraq, President Hassan Rouhani’s chief of staff Mohammad Nahavandian told reporters in Oslo that the nuclear talks were a “test for confidence building”.

“If that comes to a final resolution, then there might be opportunities for other issues to be discussed.”

283 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:57:47am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

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Okay, Ben we can change the name and mascot of Washington’s football team to a disparaging anti-Jewish slur and make the mascot a Jewish caricature and I’m sure you’d be just fine with that. But oh wait, these are Native Americans so you don’t give a shit because you like any good conservative can’t empathize with someone who isn’t you.

284 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:58:30am

re:
#277

Once again, I’ve been caught off guard.

I never imagined that even the most vile wingnuts would react so bitterly at the news of a POW being released.

Nor would I have thought for a minute that the RWNJ cared about patents and trademarks or had so much at stake in the Redskins name.

285 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:59:08am

Really, one should look at the Redskins actual history to see why this happened and why frankly it’s long over due. George P. Marshall (Redskins founder not the Marshall plan namesake and former chief of staff/Sec of State) refused to integrate his football team for years.

286 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 7:59:13am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Okay, Ben we can change the name and mascot of Washington’s football team to a disparaging anti-Jewish slur and make the mascot a Jewish caricature and I’m sure you’d be just fine with that. But oh wait, these are Native Americans so you don’t give a shit because you like any good conservative can’t empathize with someone who isn’t you.

Just rename them to the “Cheneys” and use the old Houston Oilers derrick logo.
:P ///

287 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 7:59:37am

re:
#280

full on gangster government!!!

But let not UR heart be troubled….

288 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 7:59:45am

Rename them the Rich Assholes and use Mitt Romney?

289 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:01:09am

290 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:02:48am

re:
#280

WH has “weaponized” the Patent Office? So that’s where all the gunz and ammos bought by DHS went. //

291 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:03:29am

espn.go.com
Wasn’t aware of this but apparently this happened in ‘99 too and was overturned in 2003 mostly on a technicality. Damn Obama gangster government doing what his predecessors’ patent office has done.

292 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:04:01am

re: #290 Bulworth

re:
#280

WH has “weaponized” the Patent Office? So that’s where all the gunz and ammos bought by DHS went. //

They have the patent on the bazooka. Be very scared.//

293 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 8:05:32am

re: #274 lawhawk

Having Zero effect on the civil rights of US citizens, which was one of Greenwald’s and Snowden’s ongoing claims as to why he stole these documents and then released them.

Instead, all we’ve got is a series of releases and reports that undermine the NSA operations across the world, revealing means and methods that have nothing to do with US civil rights, and everything to do with hobbling US national security and intel gathering policies and procedures.

And Snowden is staying put in a country that stands to benefit most from undermining US intel gathering means and methods.

And still, people refuse to call him a traitor. Or a thief, rather than the “whistle blower” meme they keep pushing.

294 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:05:32am

The Hillary Derangement sexist attacks are ramping up.

295 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:06:01am

I can’t wait to hear Fox News’ careful, thoughtful and nuanced reaction to the trademark name case. /

296 Killgore Trout  Jun 18, 2014 8:06:44am

Someone Is Spilling ISIS’s Secrets on Twitter

The terror group may be on a rampage in Iraq. But ISIS is being threatened from inside, it seems. And no one is sure who’s behind the tweets disclosing the group’s intimate details.

297 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 8:06:48am

re: #284 Bulworth

Nor would I have thought for a minute that the RWNJ cared about patents and trademarks or had so much at stake in the Redskins name.

Thinking back about how many R candidates were served with C&D notices for unauthorized use of songs at campaign rallies, I’d be inclined to believe that they didn’t care about copyrights at all.

298 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 8:07:10am

re: #294 Pie-onist Overlord

The Hillary Derangement sexist attacks are ramping up.

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Oh, fuck. That’s really, really low.

299 Stanley Sea  Jun 18, 2014 8:07:16am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

espn.go.com
Wasn’t aware of this but apparently this happened in ‘99 too and was overturned in 2003 mostly on a technicality. Damn Obama gangster government doing what his predecessors’ patent office has done.

The group argued that the Redskins should lose their federal trademark protection based on a law that prohibits registered names that are disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous or disreputable.

300 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:08:30am

re: #299 Stanley Sea

Totally gangster government.//

301 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:08:53am

re: #294 Pie-onist Overlord

The Hillary Derangement sexist attacks are ramping up.

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What in the name of fuck.

302 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:09:23am

re:
#297
Makeitstop

Good on the Wilson sisters for keeping Barracuda, one of the really great classic rock tunes, from being linked to that campaign.

303 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:09:35am

re: #295 Bulworth

I can’t wait to hear Fox News’ careful, thoughtful and nuanced reaction to the trademark name case. /

Probably some racist crap. Wouldn’t be Fox News without it.

304 Flying Squirrel Girl  Jun 18, 2014 8:11:49am

re: #294 Pie-onist Overlord

They really can’t help themselves. It’s HER fault he cheated on her.

305 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 8:11:51am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

Enforcing a law that was approved by Congress and signed into law by President. The original law was enacted in 1946, and subsequently amended in by Congress in 1962, 1975, 1988, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, and 2006.

And this particular provision has been on the books for all that time.

This law review is a pretty interesting history of the Lanham Act, who has standing to sue on disparagement, and the fact that Congress has consistently refused to allow all trademarks to be registered, regardless of whether they’re offensive or not. They’ve set limits, but haven’t clearly defined what those limits are, leaving the issue to the courts to figure out.

306 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:12:45am

These people are insane.

307 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:13:32am

Teh Butthurt continues

308 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 8:13:41am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

Harjo. Which is cited repeatedly in the current case. In both instances, the trademarks were canceled pending appeal. Similar grounds too.

309 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:13:45am

Think I’ll start another Twitter collection.

310 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 18, 2014 8:13:53am

So it seems the outrage du jour has moved on from Benghazi and Bergdahl, to the Washington Redskins logo, and as always, the usual suspects get the facts wrong and blow everything up into a vast Obama-centric conspiracy.

SNAFU

311 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 8:14:01am
312 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:14:30am

re: #305 lawhawk

Enforcing a law that was approved by Congress and signed into law by President. The original law was enacted in 1946, and subsequently amended in by Congress in 1962, 1975, 1988, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, and 2006.

And this particular provision has been on the books for all that time.

This law review is a pretty interesting history of the Lanham Act, who has standing to sue on disparagement, and the fact that Congress has consistently refused to allow all trademarks to be registered, regardless of whether they’re offensive or not. They’ve set limits, but haven’t clearly defined what those limits are, leaving the issue to the courts to figure out.

So the basis for this decision is in a law that was passed when Barack Obama was negative fifteen years old. Damn you Obama.

313 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 8:14:56am

How can these people stayed pissed ALL of the time?

How wearisome.

314 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:15:35am

re:
#294

She sounds nice….

315 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 18, 2014 8:15:48am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

So the basis for this decision is in a law that was passed when Barack Obama was negative fifteen years old. Damn you Obama.

The law. How the fuck does that work?

316 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:16:48am

Well I’m expecting my facebook feed to be full of derp. Lots of Redskins fans I know obviously being a D.C area native and resident. Honestly, it just pisses me off that people have blindly accepted the logo and name for years without even trying to comprehend why it might be offensive but I know Erick, I’m just a white guilt stricken liberal. Better than than a white conservative asshole who never thinks about how other people may feel about something you piece of shit.

317 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 8:17:08am

re: #307 Pie-onist Overlord

318 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:17:13am

re: #308 lawhawk

Harjo. Which is cited repeatedly in the current case. In both instances, the trademarks were canceled pending appeal. Similar grounds too.

Help me out here, what was the Harjo decision.

319 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:17:55am

The Dulles Dumb Danes will be established tomorrow morning with a mascot loosely based off of Erick Erickson’s mug.

320 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 8:18:49am

Shouldn’t Erick son of Erick be tweeting about anal sex right about now?

321 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 8:19:01am

re: #313 b.d.

How can these people stayed pissed ALL of the time?

How wearisome.

I would have died from sheer exhaustion a long time ago.

I really don’t see the point of living in a constant raged-up state like that. Even in the darkest days of Bush II, I never got a sustained rage on like that.

322 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 8:19:11am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

The defense of the current logo basically falls into - because, history.

Which would ignore the larger, longer, and more reprehensible big H history of the US treatment of Native Americans. And in this instance, the history of the team franchise is trumped by the history of the treatment of Native Americans and that the PTO is following the Lanham Act on what constitutes a disparaging trademark that shouldn’t be registered.

A law that has been in place for decades.

323 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 8:19:29am

So many possible jokes, so little time…

324 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:19:56am

Really if you’re more upset about a football team losing the right to trademark their racist logo then say poverty or people not getting good health insurance, you just may be a typical conservative.

325 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:20:10am

re:
#320

It’s still early…

326 geoffm33  Jun 18, 2014 8:21:34am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Well I’m expecting my facebook feed to be full of derp. Lots of Redskins fans I know obviously being a D.C area native and resident. Honestly, it just pisses me off that people have blindly accepted the logo and name for years without even trying to comprehend why it might be offensive but I know Erick, I’m just a white guilt stricken liberal. Better than than a white conservative asshole who never thinks about how other people may feel about something you piece of shit.

I love days like today on facebook, I enjoy pruning my friends list.

327 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:21:49am

re: #322 lawhawk

The defense of the current logo basically falls into - because, history.

Which would ignore the larger, longer, and more reprehensible big H history of the US treatment of Native Americans. And in this instance, the history of the team franchise is trumped by the history of the treatment of Native Americans and that the PTO is following the Lanham Act on what constitutes a disparaging trademark that shouldn’t be registered.

A law that has been in place for decades.

It’s all about the logo being the only thing many of these people have ever known. Even my uncle who at 70 has been around for most of the Redskins history was dumbfounded when I told him about how the Redskins founder was a segregationist. Now contrast that with the people like the Maras, Rooneys, Lombardi, and other peons of early NFL history and you can show that he wasn’t a product of his times but a pure bigot who nearly had the Kennedy Interior department remove the Skins’ lease in DC after they refused to integrate.

328 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 8:21:58am

re: #320 Dr. Matt

Shouldn’t Erick son of Erick be tweeting about anal sex right about now?

I’m sure Bryan Fischer will find a way to link this Patent Office decision to anal sex.

I’d like to say I’m just kidding, but…….this is Bryan Fischer we’re talking about.

329 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:23:19am

re: #328 Dr Lizardo

I’m sure Bryan Fischer will find a way to link this Patent Office decision to anal sex.

I’d like to say I’m just kidding, but…….this is Bryan Fischer we’re talking about.

There’s a gay person who probably worked for the patent office at one point so you know something about how this is as bad as the Nazis and gays.

330 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 8:23:40am

re: #326 geoffm33

I love days like today on facebook, I enjoy pruning my friends list.

My brother, who still identifies as a Republican, but as a non crazy one, used Dave Brat’s victory to purge ~200 friends who were celebrating Brat’s victory from his Facebook account.

331 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 8:23:57am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

There’s a gay person who probably worked for the patent office at one point so you know something about how this is as bad as the Nazis and gays.

Probably.

And bears.

332 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 8:24:35am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Harjo was essentially the same case as the current one, except it was doomed on procedural grounds (laches - or the delay in asserting the right in court), even though the Board found that the trademark should be canceled.

The Supreme Court denied cert in hearing the appeal on those procedural grounds, so the case was remanded to the Board, which then found that even the youngest plaintiff in the case was also bound by laches.

333 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 8:25:24am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

It’s all about the logo being the only thing many of these people have ever known. Even my uncle who at 70 has been around for most of the Redskins history was dumbfounded when I told him about how the Redskins founder was a segregationist. Now contrast that with the people like the Maras, Rooneys, Lombardi, and other peons of early NFL history and you can show that he wasn’t a product of his times but a pure bigot who nearly had the Kennedy Interior department remove the Skins’ lease in DC after they refused to integrate.

Al Davis could be an ass at times, but his support for civil rights was touching.

334 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 18, 2014 8:27:51am

re: #220 darthstar

Out freaking standing. I wondered what was causing all the wingnut heads to start popping like popcorn this morning.

335 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:28:06am

re: #333 Timothy Watson

Al Davis could be an ass at times, but his support for civil rights was touching.

Indeed. And as a Steelers fan, I can’t help but to think of the recently deceased Chuck Noll who along with Bill Nunn scouted small African American schools for talent and also gave African Americans like Tony Dungy coaching jobs in a time where black coaches were unheard of. I became a huge admirer of Lombardi’s when I learned about him staunchly defending a black player of his who was getting some shit because he was married to or dated a white woman. And even more groundbreaking was that he stood up for gay players too.

336 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 8:30:25am

re: #313 b.d.

How can these people stayed pissed ALL of the time?

How wearisome.

The same way that Obama stays black all the time…

337 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 8:30:55am

Heritage™ White Heritage™ O.o

338 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 8:31:51am

Well, it’s good to know that Erick has his priorities straight. For hours after the announcement of the capture yesterday of the Benghazi ringleader, RS wouldn’t touch the story. But Redskins get slapped by the government? OMG, FRONT PAGE!!!

339 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 8:31:55am

re: #328 Dr Lizardo

I’m sure Bryan Fischer will find a way to link this Patent Office decision to anal sex.

I’d like to say I’m just kidding, but…….this is Bryan Fischer we’re talking about.

And Rush will certainly evoke his all-time favorite statement about “getting bent over.”

340 klys  Jun 18, 2014 8:33:00am
341 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 8:33:16am

Love all the details in this.

342 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:33:23am

It appears my GPS was stolen last night. Unfortunately I have a rather bad habit of leaving my car unlocked at nights. So this time it came back to bite me. At least no broken windows.

343 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 8:33:53am
344 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 18, 2014 8:34:07am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Indeed. And as a Steelers fan, I can’t help but to think of the recently deceased Chuck Noll who along with Bill Nunn scouted small African American schools for talent and also gave African Americans like Tony Dungy coaching jobs in a time where black coaches were unheard of. I became a huge admirer of Lombardi’s when I learned about him staunchly defending a black player of his who was getting some shit because he was married to or dated a white woman. And even more groundbreaking was that he stood up for gay players too.

He (Lombardi) also helped the local native american people near Green Bay when no one else would. They would stand along the golf course and as he’d play through he would talk to them and give them as much of what they needed as he could.

345 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:35:25am

re: #344 William Barnett-Lewis

He also helped the local native american people near Green Bay when no one else would. They would stand along the golf course and as he’d play through new would talk to them and give them as much of what they needed as he could.

I was not aware of that bit too. Great guy. As I said above, I’m a Steelers fan but Lombardi really was one of the great ones not just in coaching but in humanity. Really, it’s people like him that transcend sports.

346 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 8:38:04am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

Ben should go out in public every day with the hat on the left just because doing otherwise would be conceding defeat to the “PC Police”.

347 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:39:36am

re: #346 Ian G.

Ben should go out in public every day with the hat on the left just because doing otherwise would be conceding defeat to the “PC Police”.

That whole campaign really did show how patently absurd the Indians logo and others like it are. Really, it just sickens me to see people blindly defending a blatantly bigoted name and logo.

348 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:40:16am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Really if you’re more upset about a football team losing the right to trademark their racist logo then say poverty or people not getting good health insurance, you just may be a typical conservative.

Conservatives are also upset about poverty and healthcare, they want more people to stay in poverty and fewer people to have healthcare.

349 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:41:01am
350 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 8:41:15am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

That whole campaign really did show how patently absurd the Indians logo and others like it are. Really, it just sickens me to see people blindly defending a blatantly bigoted name and logo.

And you’ll notice that the Cleveland Indians have changed their hat to a block “C” as they slowly phase out “Chief Wahoo”. It’s a whole different dynamic than Dan Synder’s assholish refusal to budge an inch on this issue.

351 Aqua Obama  Jun 18, 2014 8:41:33am

Uh, so does this mean we’re going to see scads of cheap, knock off Redskins merchandise now that the trademark is dead?

352 Dr. Matt  Jun 18, 2014 8:42:21am
353 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:43:27am

re: #350 Ian G.

And you’ll notice that the Cleveland Indians have changed their hat to a block “C” as they slowly phase out “Chief Wahoo”. It’s a whole different dynamic than Dan Synder’s assholish refusal to budge an inch on this issue.

Yeah Snyder’s been a special total ass which I think is a means of distracting the Redskins faithful from the fact that he continues to be among the worst owners in all of sports maybe the worse if you look at bang for buck.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 8:43:44am

re: #351 Aqua Obama

Uh, so does this mean we’re going to see scads of cheap, knock off Redskins merchandise now that the trademark is dead?

Probably. Especially since there will be a huge run on it by the idiots who will want to wear it as a “protest” against political correctness and Obama. Which, given what really happened, I think would qualify as ironic.

355 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:43:58am

re: #351 Aqua Obama

Uh, so does this mean we’re going to see scads of cheap, knock off Redskins merchandise now that the trademark is dead?

Probably. In which case, you’d think wingnuts would be happy. Free market and all.

356 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 8:45:01am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Yeah Snyder’s been a special total ass which I think is a means of distracting the Redskins faithful from the fact that he continues to be among the worst owners in all of sports maybe the worse if you look at bang for buck.

I do wonder sometimes if the Eagles fanatics realize what a gift they were given by having both Snyder and Jones as owners of teams in their division.

357 Killgore Trout  Jun 18, 2014 8:45:51am

Iran digs in heels on nuclear centrifuges at Vienna talks -envoys

Two other stumbling blocks are Iran’s planned Arak nuclear reactor - which Western officials suspect could be a source of plutonium, an alternative to HEU as bomb fuel - and Iranian clarification of intelligence indications that it researched how to design bombs in the past - something it also denies doing.

Diplomatic sources have told Reuters that it is increasingly probable Iran will seek a prolongation of the talks deadline. But Western officials insisted the focus now remained on sealing the deal by late July, noting that any extension must be agreed by all sides and would likely be short. “If there is an extension it will be for a few weeks,” a diplomat from one of the six powers told Reuters. If a deal were really within reach, the sides should not need six more months, the maximum extension approved under a preliminary deal Iran struck with the six powers in Geneva last November.

358 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 8:46:20am

Jim Wright’s feud with Mike Malloy just went very public.

And Mike Malloy’s ‘fan club’ is swarming Wright’s email, with threats. Great.

359 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:46:23am

re:
#350

Are there attempts to change the Cleveland Indians name as well?

360 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:46:24am

I’ve seen people try to bring up Notre Dame as a counter-argument but it’s worth noting that Notre Dame was started by Catholics and the man who gave the “Fighting irish” moniker was a son of Irish immigrants himself and the Irish brigade’s chaplain during the Civil War.

361 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:47:05am

re: #356 Feline Fearless Leader

I do wonder sometimes if the Eagles fanatics realize what a gift they were given by having both Snyder and Jones as owners of teams in their division.

Heh Giants fans too. Really you’re lucky if you get one incompetent with tons of money but not a clue to do with it, you’re blessed if you get two.

362 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:47:51am

re: #359 Bulworth

re:
#350

Are there attempts to change the Cleveland Indians name as well?

Haven’t heard any about that. I think the beef with the Indians has mainly been about the Chief Wahoo logo which as discussed is slowly fading out.

363 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 8:49:10am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Heh Giants fans too. Really you’re lucky if you get one incompetent with tons of money but not a clue to do with it, you’re blessed if you get two.

Arguably true for the Steelers and Ravens as well since Cincinnati and Cleveland have been historically* poorly run franchises as well.

* - Past 40 years. Cleveland was a power at one time, like when they had Jim Brown.

364 bratwurst  Jun 18, 2014 8:49:56am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

I’ve seen people try to bring up Notre Dame as a counter-argument but it’s worth noting that Notre Dame was started by Catholics and the man who gave the “Fighting irish” moniker was a son of Irish immigrants himself and the Irish brigade’s chaplain during the Civil War.

Total tu quoque nonsense. If thousands of Irish people decide they ARE offended, they are free to organize and put pressure on that university.

365 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 8:50:30am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Haven’t heard any about that. I think the beef with the Indians has mainly been about the Chief Wahoo logo which as discussed is slowly fading out.

I guess getting the annoying “Tomahawk Chop” chant to go away in Atlanta is a pipe dream though. Had a Philadelphia-Atlanta game on as background the other day, and had the mute button going within 10 minutes.

366 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 8:50:33am
367 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:50:51am

re: #363 Feline Fearless Leader

Arguably true for the Steelers and Ravens as well since Cincinnati and Cleveland have been historically* poorly run franchises as well.

* - Past 40 years. Cleveland was a power at one time, like when they had Jim Brown.

Yeah true.

368 klys  Jun 18, 2014 8:54:03am

re: #358 makeitstop

Jim Wright’s feud with Mike Molloy just went very public.

And Mike Molloy’s ‘fan club’ is swarming Wright’s email, with threats. Great.

He’s pulled the article* down and has put up notice that Stonekettle Station is offline until further notice. :( There are a lot of people out there who are assholes.

* The one about the conservatives leading the charge.

369 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 8:55:32am

re: #359 Bulworth

re:
#350

Are there attempts to change the Cleveland Indians name as well?

Not that I’m aware of, but I think the specific problem there is less the name than the racist caricature logo.

370 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 8:56:45am
371 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 8:57:30am

never mind.

372 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 8:58:09am

re: #370 Gus

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Yep. Too true.

373 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 8:58:49am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Yep. Too true.

That’s the very short list too.

374 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 8:59:17am

re:
#369

They do use the ‘C’ on the cap a lot more now. Not sure they’ve done away with the other logo entirely.

375 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 8:59:30am

re: #368 klys

He’s pulled the article* down and has put up notice that Stonekettle Station is offline until further notice. :( There are a lot of people out there who are assholes.

* The one about the conservatives leading the charge.

I posted way upthread early this morning that he announced on FB that he was considering shutting down the blog altogether.

That’d be a shame. Wright’s a hell of a writer. I hope he reconsiders.

376 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 9:00:31am

They can keep the Redskin name if we can keep calling them Teabaggers.

//

377 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 9:01:10am

re: #358 makeitstop

Jim Wright’s feud with Mike Malloy just went very public.

And Mike Malloy’s ‘fan club’ is swarming Wright’s email, with threats. Great.

This is why Charles insists that LGF pages use only a very brief block quote from other sources, then provide a link to read the rest at the source, rather than copy & paste an entire article.

378 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:01:11am

re:
#358

And Mike Molloy’s ‘fan club’ is swarming Wright’s email, with threats. Great.

His fan club must have lots of time on its hands.

379 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 9:01:42am
380 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:03:55am

re: #379 Pie-onist Overlord

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Number seven is the one that the defenders want to ignore. ERickson and co claim it’s merely a handful of Native Americans and guilty white liberals.

381 wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2014 9:04:29am

re: #337 Gus

HeritageTM White HeritageTM O.o

I read an article by a local Cliven Bundy wannabe. He referred to raising cattle as a ‘heritage industry’. O.o

382 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:04:39am

I won’t know what to think about this Redskins name trademark thing until the most infamous half governor in American history weighs in to tell me what to think. /

383 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 9:05:20am

Nope.

Top US general confirms that Iraq has asked the US to launch air strikes - @BBCNews
Read more on bbc.com

384 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 9:05:54am
385 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:06:20am

re:
#383

Iraq doesn’t have its own planes?

386 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:06:59am

Honestly, what I always ask the defenders and I’ve had this conversation many a time given most of my family root for this team is what would the reaction today be if a team with this name and logo were to be an expansion team. They’ve come to accept the name because it’s all they’ve ever known and that blinds them to the reality of its offensive nature. And they can’t really answer that question because I think many do know/realize its offensive. Really, I heard Joe Gibbs asked about the name and he says it’s about pride. Well, Joe, that’s nice and all but if you had won all those SBs you won in the 80’s and early 90’s as the coach of the Washington Wankers. There would be a lot of proud “wankers” too. It’s not the name that made people proud to root for that team. It’s what they did.

387 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:07:26am

re: #382 Bulworth

I won’t know what to think about this Redskins name trademark thing until the most infamous half governor in American history weighs in to tell me what to think. /

She probably thinks she has special credibility on the subject since her husband is 1/8 NA.

388 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 9:08:56am

re: #385 Bulworth

re:
#383

Iraq doesn’t have its own planes?

I think they just received an order of a couple dozen F-16s about a month ago. I doubt they have any pilots who know them well enough to use them in combat yet.

And Saddam Hussein’s airforce was literally buried in the desert prior to the 2003 invasion, so they have nothing left of that.

389 klys  Jun 18, 2014 9:11:15am

re: #388 Ian G.

I think they just received an order of a couple dozen F-16s about a month ago. I doubt they have any pilots who know them well enough to use them in combat yet.

And Saddam Hussein’s airforce was literally buried in the desert prior to the 2003 invasion, so they have nothing left of that.

Well, they must have something to have pulled off these airstrikes this past week.

390 Killgore Trout  Jun 18, 2014 9:11:15am

re: #388 Ian G.

I think they just received an order of a couple dozen F-16s about a month ago. I doubt they have any pilots who know them well enough to use them in combat yet.

And Saddam Hussein’s airforce was literally buried in the desert prior to the 2003 invasion, so they have nothing left of that.

They have some choppers and seem to know how to use them ok
Liveleak Video

391 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 9:11:43am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

The Washington Hogs (and Heifers).

392 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 9:12:40am

re: #389 klys

Well, they must have something to have pulled off these airstrikes this past week.

Maybe they are using those brand-new F-16s. I dunno. But if they are, why do they need us?

393 blueraven  Jun 18, 2014 9:13:33am

UGH

WARNING: Very disturbing images at link. Wish I hadn’t clicked through.

394 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:13:45am

And now amazon.com has removed all the “century” departments under U.S. History. Used to list best sellers and new releases for the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries. FAIL.

395 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 9:14:39am

Classic:

396 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:16:32am

re: #395 lawhawk

Classic:

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That’s pathetic even for a pathetic piece of shit like West.

397 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:17:00am

re:
#395

Wingnuts 2013: Why won’t Obama get American POW Bowe Bergdahl released??!?!?!

Wingnuts 2014: Why did traitor Obama get deserter and traitor Bowe Bergdahl released?!??!!?!

Rinse, repeat.

398 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:17:18am

re: #393 blueraven

UGH

WARNING: Very disturbing images at link. Wish I hadn’t clicked through.

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Fucking Nazi scumbags.

399 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 9:17:37am

re: #395 lawhawk

Classic:

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Yeah, this is what I was expecting after the NYT story came out yesterday, that the “ringleader” suddenly becomes somebody of little importance.

400 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:17:45am

re: #397 Bulworth

re:
#395

Wingnuts 2013: Why won’t Obama get American POW Bowe Bergdahl released??!?!?!

Wingnuts 2014: Why did traitor Obama get deserter and traitor Bowe Bergdahl released?!??!!?!

Rinse, repeat.

Choose your own wingnut adventure, the Benghazi edition.

401 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:17:52am

re:
#395

The Internet. How the fck does it work?

402 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:19:44am

Can’t wait to see the next Teabag Party protest where they’re all dressed in 18th century patriot garb complaining about the Redskins trademark case.

403 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:20:24am

But we’re supposed to treat the GOP as if they are a party made of rational, thoughtful individuals rather than what they are; a party that becomes opposed to anything Barack Obama does upon his doing it. Oh we’re for insurance mandates? It becomes tyrannical tyranny when Obama does it. We need to get Sgt. Bergdahl free from the Taliban. And then it’s why did Obama get that deserter freed! I mean this isn’t even philosophical disagreement. This is just their inability to accept that Obama is the president and that McCain and Romney will only be visiting the WH as visitors.

404 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:21:30am

Maybe Operation American Spring can add the Redskins trademark case to their list of grievances and causes for overthrowing a dually elected federal government….
/

405 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 18, 2014 9:22:39am
406 wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2014 9:23:16am

re: #402 Bulworth

Can’t wait to see the next Teabag Party protest where they’re all dressed in 18th century patriot garb complaining about the Redskins trademark case.

They can wear Arrow shirts like Custer.

407 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 9:23:22am

re: #403 HappyWarrior

But we’re supposed to treat the GOP as if they are a party made of rational, thoughtful individuals rather than what they are; a party that becomes opposed to anything Barack Obama does upon his doing it. Oh we’re for insurance mandates? It becomes tyrannical tyranny when Obama does it. We need to get Sgt. Bergdahl free from the Taliban. And then it’s why did Obama get that deserter freed! I mean this isn’t even philosophical disagreement. This is just their inability to accept that Obama is the president and that McCain and Romney will only be visiting the WH as visitors.

Yep. the party that screams for respect refuses to offer it, or basic civility, to others.

408 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 9:29:51am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Fucking Nazi scumbags.

Sick Nazi scum.

I won’t elaborate on what I’d like to do to neo-Nazi scum, but it most certainly involves a great deal of discomfort on their part.

And a chainsaw.

409 wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2014 9:33:25am
410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 9:33:38am

re: #407 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. the party that screams for respect refuses to offer it, or basic civility, to others.

A party that does not hesitate to brand anyone who disagrees with them as moochers, traitors, losers, terrorist sympathizers, etc…

411 BeenHereAwhile  Jun 18, 2014 9:35:25am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Yeah Snyder’s been a special total ass which I think is a means of distracting the Redskins faithful from the fact that he continues to be among the worst owners in all of sports maybe the worse if you look at bang for buck.

In terms of personality, among NFl team owners, Snyder is in a class all by himself. After he purchased the Washington franchise, stories would circulate within the NFL, “wow can you believe that Snyder did this?”

One of the most public things he did was to charge admission to fans to watch the team practice in 2000.

412 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 9:35:35am
413 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jun 18, 2014 9:36:06am

re: #409 wrenchwench

Once you genocide a people, let them be. I’m going to guess that there are no German soccer teams named the “Fighting Jews.

Until the 70’s a popular a chocolate-marshmallow confection was known as a “Negerkuss”, a “n***** kiss”

I even found an old box of them depicting two Africans kissing on it.

You see, the NAZIS regained power here!!!

/

414 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 9:38:18am
415 ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2014 9:39:11am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

Good on the patent office.

They were probably threatened to do it by Obama and Holder.

/

416 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 9:40:14am

re: #413 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Until the 70’s a popular a chocolate-marshmallow confection was known as a “Negerkuss”, a “n***** kiss”

I even found an old box of them depicting two Africans kissing on it.

You see, the NAZIS regained power here!!!

/

I’ve never seen it, but I’ve heard tell of it from older Germans. A friend of mine’s daughter had a German translation of Pippi Longstocking, and her father’s title wasn’t “fat white chief” like it is in the most recent editions of the series. It was an older book, at least as old as I am, if not older, though I didn’t check to see when it was published.

417 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 9:41:39am

re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nah. From Kristol in particular, I want not just an apology, but admission that he’s a clueless incompetent who would be a used car salesman if he hadn’t won the sperm lottery.

And from the media, I want a mea culpa for their action in enabling half-wit sperm lottery winners like Kristol and Donald Trump and continuing to treat them as if they’re “experts” in anything.

418 wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2014 9:42:34am

re: #413 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Until the 70’s a popular a chocolate-marshmallow confection was known as a “Negerkuss”, a “n***** kiss”

I even found an old box of them depicting two Africans kissing on it.

You see, the NAZIS regained power here!!!

/

All over the world.

In Colombia, it’s called Beso De Negra (Black Woman’s Kiss) or “Chocmelo”, a portmanteau of chocolate and masmelo (marshmallow). However, these last ones don’t always have a cookie as its base.

Still in use.

419 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 9:42:47am

Has Sarah Palin gone out and gotten a Washington Redskins logo tattoo yet?

420 wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2014 9:46:27am

re: #419 b.d.

Has Sarah Palin gone out and gotten a Washington Redskins logo tattoo yet?

Or Todd, for that matter.

421 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 9:46:53am

Fun stuff at the White House today.

422 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:48:47am

re:
#419

Right above her Big Gulp tattoo.

423 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 9:49:27am
424 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 9:51:52am

re: #422 Bulworth

re:
#419

Right above her Big Gulp tattoo.

is that near the incandescent light bulb one?

425 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 9:52:58am

re: #424 b.d.

is that near the incandescent light bulb one?

It’s just above the Benghazi tramp stamp.
/

426 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 9:54:33am
Gabriel: What we found was shocking and we found that history is being whitewashed, Islam is given preferential treatment in public schools, and political correctness has literally altered how history is being taught in our public schools to our children.

How can the future generation of America protect America and make the right decisions that will protect and serve America and keep America a great nation if they are being fed mistruths about historical, factual information. Hitler made a very important statement, Hitler said, ‘give me the children, I will change society in ten years,’ and that is exactly what he did and look where we ended up and we’re seeing the same thing happening with our children right now. And by the way, all paid for by our tax dollars in public schools.

rightwingwatch.org

427 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 9:55:36am

re: #425 makeitstop

It’s just above the Benghazi tramp stamp.
/

She’ll soon be getting that one reworked like she did the Never Forget Bowe Bergdahl one.

428 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 9:56:13am
429 ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2014 9:57:31am

re: #296 Killgore Trout

Someone Is Spilling ISIS’s Secrets on Twitter

Must be some form of Middle Eastern dudebros/libertarian thing. They have their own Snowden!

430 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 9:58:02am

re:
#423

Just another very serious person in a very serious movement we should all treat very seriously because confirmed fact.

431 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 9:58:40am

re: #428 Gus

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So they continue to ask WHERE ARE THE MUSLIM MODERATES and then this kid whowas not even a teenager when 9/11 happened writes a thoughtful column. They accuse him of deliberately feeding misinformation. These people make me almost embarrassed to be an American.

432 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 9:59:32am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

So they continue to ask WHERE ARE THE MUSLIM MODERATES and then this kid whowas not even a teenager when 9/11 happened writes a thoughtful column. They accuse him of deliberately feeding misinformation. These people make me almost embarrassed to be an American.

Yep. Exactly. No Islamophobia here! //

433 BeenHereAwhile  Jun 18, 2014 10:00:04am

re: #333 Timothy Watson

Al Davis could be an ass at times, but his support for civil rights was touching.

Among NFL team owners, Al Davis was one of a kind.

He always thought that he should have become NFL Commissioner instead of Pete Rozelle. He sued the NFL several times, to move his franchise from Oakland to LA and back to Oakland. IIRC, he usually won his lawsuits against the NFL.

During breaks at team owner meetings, Al & Jerry Jones would sit off by themselves, and you could imagine the other owners looking and wondering, “what are Al and Jerry cooking up this time.”

Although it wasn’t what he normally wore, I’ll always remember Al wearing a white jump suit (just like Elvis) with a cape to one of the team owners meeting press conference.

434 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 10:00:24am

re:
#428

WHERE ARE THE PEACEFUL MUSLIMS HOW COME WE KNOW HERE FROM THEM??????!?!?1

435 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 10:01:34am

They seem nice (and, surprise! It’s not Florida this time)

436 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 10:02:31am

re:
#428

THE ALL CAPS IN OUR RESPONSE TO THIS TRAITOROUS UNAMERICAN ISLAM PERSON PROOFS WERE RIGHT FACTS!!11

437 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:03:44am

re: #428 Gus

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Typical RW behavior. They have no interest in peace, or tolerance, and then they have the sheer audacity to condemn those Muslims who do stand up for peace and tolerance by screaming “Taqqiya!!” and at the same time asking fatuous questions like, “How come no Muslims speak out against extremism?”

Brigette Gabriel, Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and the rest of the professional bigot brigade can well and truly go fuck themselves.

They’re little more than modern-day Julius Streicher clones.

They can go straight to hell.

438 ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2014 10:04:56am

re: #366 Gus

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How about Washington Thinskins?

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439 bratwurst  Jun 18, 2014 10:06:56am
440 The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2014 10:08:30am

re: #426 Gus

Later in the show, Rios, who earlier said that secular Jews have been “the worst enemies of the country,” asked Gabriel why “Jewish leftists in this country” such as Anti-Defamation League president Abraham Foxman 𠇊re eager to embrace Islam.”

As always, concerns about “leftist Jews” follows three steps behind concern about Muslims.

441 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:11:00am

re: #440 The Ghost of a Flea

As always, concerns about “leftist Jews” follows three steps behind concern about Muslims.

She’s always bringing up Hitler and Nazis WRT Islam. I’ve seen that number before.

442 Kragar  Jun 18, 2014 10:11:10am
443 Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2014 10:13:08am
444 ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2014 10:14:08am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Yeah true.

As a downtrodden Browns fan, you have to remember they had almost made the super bowl two years in the late 80s (Kosar vs Elway) and made the playoffs two years before Modell took them to Baltimore. Then they go and win the Super Bowl a few years later as the Ravens.

The All-new Browns came back in 99 with an owner that was old and did die a few years in and turned it over to his son (Randy Lerner) who really liked his soccer team (British?) more and really just let anyone take over the show, and if that didn’t work in 2 years they were all fired.

Yeah, that’ll work.

Now they have owner Jimmy Haslam, brother of Tennessee governor Bill Haslam. He finds himself in trouble with the Pilot/Flying J Trucks stops and the feds are going through the books.

Who knows…but it can’t have been a bigger mess since coming back.

Sigh.

445 Eventual Carrion  Jun 18, 2014 10:14:42am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

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No, they are the patent police.

446 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 10:15:50am

re: #443 Charles Johnson

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I can never look at pictures from that time period without cringing at the clothes on display.

447 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:16:46am
448 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 10:16:50am

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fun stuff at the White House today.

The robotic giraffe is the prototype for the Kenyan Sharia Enforcer.
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449 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 18, 2014 10:16:53am

re: #446 Targetpractice

I can never look at pictures from that time period without cringing at the clothes on display.

1970’s=WORST FASHION DECADE OF ALL TIME

450 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 10:17:07am

re:
#447

Stay classy, wingnuts

451 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 10:19:26am

re:
#447

WERE NOT RACISTS WE JUST WANNA CRITIC OBAMA POLICIES AND U PEOPLE SAY RACIST LIKE THIS HERE POLICY HEAR OF OBAMA DAUGHTER TAKING JOBS FROM US!!11

452 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 10:20:05am

re: #442 Kragar

He’s have better luck claiming to be Spartacus.

453 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:20:19am

re: #451 Bulworth

re:
#447

WERE NOT RACISTS WE JUST WANNA CRITIC OBAMA POLICIES AND U PEOPLE SAY RACIST LIKE THIS HERE POLICY HEAR OF OBAMA DAUGHTER TAKING JOBS FROM US!!11

Those crazy POLARIZING lefties at it again! //

454 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 10:20:22am

About time…

Philadelphia man, 89, ordered held without bond on Nazi death camp charges - @AP
Read more on abcnews.go.com

455 Bulworth  Jun 18, 2014 10:20:33am

re:
#442

He’s the president of the U.S., the entire Supreme Court and all the members of Congress, too.

456 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 10:22:10am

re: #440 The Ghost of a Flea

As always, concerns about “leftist Jews” follows three steps behind concern about Muslims.

That’s partially because they see the same rhetoric used in the past for anti-Semitism simply being rephrased to be anti-Muslim with a simple copy and paste. I think secondarily is that they know that the rhetoric from these same blowhards (or their allies) would turn back to anti-Semitic in a heartbeat as well given the opportunity.

457 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:22:44am

re: #442 Kragar

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Attorney General?

Pshaw.

I’m the Grand Caliph and Supreme Sultan of the United States of America, Conqueror of the British Empire, King of Scotland and The All-Powerful Warrior Who, Because Of His Endurance And Inflexible Will To Win, Goes From Conquest To Conquest, Leaving Fire In His Wake.

Because I said so, that’s why.

(that last part of my title, btw - yeah, that’s the translation of the name of a famous 20th Century African dictator. Hint; that’s not his real name but one he adopted for himself after consolidating his power)

458 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 10:23:58am

re: #457 Dr Lizardo

Attorney General?

Pshaw.

I’m the Grand Caliph and Supreme Sultan of the United States of America, Conqueror of the British Empire, King of Scotland and The All-Powerful Warrior Who, Because Of His Endurance And Inflexible Will To Win, Goes From Conquest To Conquest, Leaving Fire In His Wake.

Because I said so, that’s why.

(that last part of my title, btw - yeah, that’s the translation of the name of a famous 20th Century African dictator. Hint; that’s not his real name but one he adopted for himself after consolidating his power)

Idi Amin, wasn’t it?

459 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:24:55am

re: #458 Targetpractice

Idi Amin, wasn’t it?

Nope. Another hint; the country is still in a great deal of turmoil

460 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 10:25:35am

re: #458 Targetpractice

Idi Amin, wasn’t it?

Was it Mad Magazine that joked that he had so much gold braid on his hat that it had crushed his brain?

(cue for photos of North Korean generals)

461 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:26:02am

re: #458 Targetpractice

Another hint; he was considered a strong ally of the US during the Cold War because of his anti-communism.

462 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 10:26:05am

re: #457 Dr Lizardo

Congo’s Mobutu Sese Seko.

463 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:27:07am

re: #462 lawhawk

Congo’s Mobutu Sese Seko.

We have a winner!

Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu Wa Za Banga, or as he was born, Joseph-Desiré Mobutu.

464 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 10:27:12am

re: #447 Gus

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Gawd, those people must have fucking miserable lives to live in so much hate.

465 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 18, 2014 10:27:51am

re: #459 Dr Lizardo

Nope. Another hint; the country is still in a great deal of turmoil

If it’s not Idi Amin it has to be someone screwing up the Congo (Zaire). Talk about an area that just continues to be dealt bad hand after bad hand.

466 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 10:28:02am

re: #459 Dr Lizardo

Nope. Another hint; the country is still in a great deal of turmoil

Yeah, I remember the “king of scotland” bit as one of the titles that Idi Amin gave himself. Always marvel at the grandiose titles that dictators give themselves.

467 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:31:23am

re: #466 Targetpractice

Yeah, I remember the “king of scotland” bit as one of the titles that Idi Amin gave himself. Always marvel at the grandiose titles that dictators give themselves.

Idi Amin’s full title was “His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular and Uncrowned King of Scotland.”

468 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:33:22am
469 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:33:33am
470 gwangung  Jun 18, 2014 10:33:56am

re: #456 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s partially because they see the same rhetoric used in the past for anti-Semitism simply being rephrased to be anti-Muslim with a simple copy and paste. I think secondarily is that they know that the rhetoric from these same blowhards (or their allies) would turn back to anti-Semitic in a heartbeat as well given the opportunity.

Repurposed from anti-Chinese, anti-Japanese, Anti Hispanic, Anti-German, anti-Polish, and so on and so forth….

471 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 10:34:10am

I, for one, am going to miss Jay.

Live video: White House Press Secretary Jay Carney’s last day briefing the press - @NBCNews
see original on msnbc.com

472 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:34:12am

re: #468 Gus

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Gaffney’s been pushing that siren song of crap for years now.

473 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 10:35:04am
474 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:35:28am
475 b.d.  Jun 18, 2014 10:37:35am

re: #447 Gus

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Picking on a 15 year old kid?

F them.

476 Ian G.  Jun 18, 2014 10:37:55am

re: #467 Dr Lizardo

“Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas” is a nice touch.

Still, in terms of utterly batshit Africa tyrants, I’m not sure Idi Amin was up to the level of Jean Bedel Bokassa, or Francisco Macías Nguema.

477 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 10:38:17am

re: #467 Dr Lizardo

Idi Amin’s full title was “His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular and Uncrowned King of Scotland.”

And this,

The Last King of Scotland

imdb.com

478 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:39:07am

re: #473 Lidane

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Ah, yes……World Net White Nationalist Daily - they’re asking questions.

Granted, insane questions, but questions nonetheless.

479 Kragar  Jun 18, 2014 10:40:17am
480 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 10:41:03am

To be fair, Henry VIII’s title was “Henry the Eighth, by the Grace of God, King of England, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith and of the Church of England and also of Ireland in Earth Supreme Head”

481 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 10:41:31am

re: #471 Justanotherhuman

I, for one, am going to miss Jay.

Live video: White House Press Secretary Jay Carney’s last day briefing the press - @NBCNews
see original on msnbc.com

Kinda wish Jay would give the press corps the “respect” they deserve for how they’ve acted the last six years:

Youtube Video

482 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:41:46am

re: #476 Ian G.

“Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas” is a nice touch.

Still, in terms of utterly batshit Africa tyrants, I’m not sure Idi Amin was up to the level of Jean Bedel Bokassa, or Francisco Macías Nguema.

Bokassa I’ve read about, but I had to look up Nguema.

From Wiki:

During Christmas of 1975 he ordered about 150 of his opponents killed. Soldiers dressed up in Santa Claus costumes executed them by shooting at the football stadium in Malabo, while amplifiers were playing Mary Hopkin’s “Those Were the Days”.

Oh shit. That’s some extra-special crazy right there.

O_O

483 Kragar  Jun 18, 2014 10:42:05am

re: #481 Targetpractice

I’ve trained you well.

484 Kragar  Jun 18, 2014 10:43:30am
485 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:43:35am

re: #477 Justanotherhuman

And this,

The Last King of Scotland

imdb.com

An outstanding film, and Forest Whitaker’s Oscar was richly deserved.

486 Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2014 10:44:31am

Thing is, I read Milbank’s original column and I agree in a very limited way that he somewhat overstated his case.

But the right wingers are now acting as if this means there was NOTHING WRONG with that shit show. It was disgusting, almost beyond belief — open bigotry and hatred, and deranged conspiracy theories.

If I have to pick a side on this, I’m on Milbank’s side. That event was sickening.

487 Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2014 10:48:05am

re: #484 Kragar

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So what if it’s great medicine if you die during the wait?!

488 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:48:07am

re: #486 Charles Johnson

Thing is, I read Milbank’s original column and I agree in a very limited way that he somewhat overstated his case.

But the right wingers are now acting as if this means there was NOTHING WRONG with that shit show. It was disgusting, almost beyond belief — open bigotry and hatred, and deranged conspiracy theories.

If I have to pick a side on this, I’m on Milbank’s side. That event was sickening.

489 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:49:47am
490 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 10:49:49am

re: #486 Charles Johnson

Then there are those folks who think that Milbank was reaching for a story just by covering Heritage in the first place. As if a major think tank that feeds talking points and political issues to GOP candidates is something to be ignored.

The place is a cesspool, and shedding light on it reveals quite a bit about who’s involved, and what Heritage is willing to do to further its agenda. And that includes rolling around with conspiracy nuts like Gaffney (who thinks there’s a Muslim Brotherhood plant behind every federal agency and decision) and racists (to name but two from this conference alone).

491 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:52:19am

re: #490 lawhawk

Then there are those folks who think that Milbank was reaching for a story just by covering Heritage in the first place. As if a major think tank that feeds talking points and political issues to GOP candidates is something to be ignored.

The place is a cesspool, and shedding light on it reveals quite a bit about who’s involved, and what Heritage is willing to do to further its agenda. And that includes rolling around with conspiracy nuts like Gaffney (who thinks there’s a Muslim Brotherhood plant behind every federal agency and decision) and racists (to name but two from this conference alone).

492 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 10:56:30am
493 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 10:57:16am

re: #489 Gus

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heh. From the article:

Gabriel is less well known. With her, we start by putting “Brigitte Gabriel” in quotes because that’s apparently her stage name. She was born Hanah Kahwagi in Marjayoun, Lebanon. I’m guessing she changed her name because when you are trying to get conservatives to buy your books and pay for your lectures, they like good ol’ American names as opposed to those “Ay-rab-sounding ones.”

494 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 10:59:00am

re: #489 Gus

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Imagine a panel on Jewish issues featuring David Duke.

495 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 11:01:30am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh. From the article:

SPLC has the goods on her.

splcenter.org

496 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 11:01:44am
497 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2014 11:02:06am

re: #495 Justanotherhuman

SPLC has the goods on her.

splcenter.org

Yep. The article notes that as well.

498 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 11:03:35am
499 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 11:03:49am

re: #495 Justanotherhuman

SPLC has the goods on her.

splcenter.org

Wingnuts hate the SPLC.

500 Gus  Jun 18, 2014 11:04:06am
501 Timothy Watson  Jun 18, 2014 11:07:23am

re: #498 Gus

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lolwhut? The Saudis and the Iranians are going to team up?

502 Dr Lizardo  Jun 18, 2014 11:07:55am

re: #498 Gus

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A “Saudi-Iranian” Caliphate?

Go home, Allen. You’re drunk.

503 Lidane  Jun 18, 2014 11:08:04am

Ah, there we go. I was starting to worry that my FB wingnuts were in a stupor since they haven’t been bitching about anything of significance in a few days.

The socon, Heritage quoting, Allen West/Joe the Plumber linking wingnut who claims he’s a libertarian is currently on a tear over the Redskins losing their trademarks:

If I was Dan Snyder I’d change the team name to “The Generics”. No city or state affiliation, and no team nickname. Then make their uniforms all white with a single black stripe. And I’d protest having the numbers on it because that sets people apart. One player having a certain number, for example, might hurt the feelings of another player who might want it.

I was starting to worry. The FB wingnuts are usually so much more vocal. There’s hope. Heh.

504 Justanotherhuman  Jun 18, 2014 11:08:20am

Neither do I. You support offshoring of these by saving maybe $20 in taxes? You come cheap if you do. These come right before the start of school when people are spending a lot of money they would spend anyway.

White House says President Obama does not support voluntary repatriation tax holiday because would reward firms that have shift profits, jobs overseas -@Reuters
End of alert

505 jaunte  Jun 18, 2014 11:10:27am

re: #495 Justanotherhuman

From that SPLC article:

During a private legislative briefing in the basement of the Capitol, congressmen — many of them rising stars in the Tea Party movement where Gabriel has made many inroads — spoke freely about the danger supposedly posed by Muslims. “This jihadist, Islamist, terrorist ideology, it is more dangerous than the Nazi ideology,” Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) told about 250 ACT members who attended. “As evil as the Nazis were, they wanted to live.”
splcenter.org

Trent Franks:

“Thomas Jefferson once said, “The constitutional freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights.”

Religious liberty is our first freedom and it is the cornerstone of all other human freedoms. The Bill of Rights passed by the First Congress included protections for religious freedom because without religious liberty and freedom of conscience, all other liberties cease to exist. Indeed, religious liberty is the wellspring of our other liberties and a defining statement of freedom in America.”
franks.house.gov

506 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 11:12:37am

re: #503 Lidane

Ah, there we go. I was starting to worry that my FB wingnuts were in a stupor since they haven’t been bitching about anything of significance in a few days.

The socon, Heritage quoting, Allen West/Joe the Plumber linking wingnut who claims he’s a libertarian is currently on a tear over the Redskins losing their trademarks:

I was starting to worry. The FB wingnuts are usually so much more vocal. There’s hope. Heh.

You should tell him that if he’s a libertarian, he should be glad because now he has the freedom to make Washington Redskins knock-off merch.

507 makeitstop  Jun 18, 2014 11:12:45am

re: #503 Lidane

Ah, there we go. I was starting to worry that my FB wingnuts were in a stupor since they haven’t been bitching about anything of significance in a few days.

The socon, Heritage quoting, Allen West/Joe the Plumber linking wingnut who claims he’s a libertarian is currently on a tear over the Redskins losing their trademarks:

I was starting to worry. The FB wingnuts are usually so much more vocal. There’s hope. Heh.

My FB wingnuts have gone the other way so far today. Roaring out of the gate this morning, jabbering about how the terrorist takedown was to help Hillary sell books. I roundly mocked them, and I was surprised when they stopped.

But they’ll be back later. They always come back.

508 HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2014 11:13:46am

Pleasantly surprised I haven’t seen any bs from the many Redskins fans I know. But the day as they say is young.

509 lawhawk  Jun 18, 2014 11:22:40am

Oh no! She’d didn’t just go there. Oh yes she did!


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