I’m going out on a limb to predict that George Will’s attempt to man-splain his recent column on sexual abuse and rape, in which he claimed women report rapes so they can be afforded the “coveted status” of “privileged” victimhood, isn’t going to win anyone over to his weird, heartless argument.
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Gus Jun 20, 2014 12:40:30pm |
Wait. You mean the well respected, non-partisan, moderate, and non-polarizing George Will?
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Testy Toad T Jun 20, 2014 12:40:51pm |
I’m sure that’s the reason that more than half of all rapes go unreported. Because “victim of rape” is such a coveted status.
Fossilized piece of shit.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 12:41:12pm |
Actually met George Will once at a cook-out. He’s just as much of an asshole as you’d think.
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Eclectic Cyborg Jun 20, 2014 12:43:38pm |
Because being ostracized and slut shamed are such awesome “privileges”.
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aagcobb Jun 20, 2014 12:44:21pm |
Hope we can get some GOP senatorial candidates commenting favorably on how women falsely report rape to obtain that coveted victimhood status. Though by now you’d think they would’ve learned that when the word “rape” comes up, the only appropriate response is to say that it is a horrendous crime which should be vigorously prosecuted and victims should get all the assistance they need for their recovery.
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TedStriker Jun 20, 2014 12:45:05pm |
Of course Will is doubling down; being a modern “conservative” means never having to say that you’re wrong or that you’re sorry.
What a fucking bloviating assbag.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 12:45:14pm |
Yeah, women want this “coveted” status, all right. Even though it took me almost 50 yrs to publicly admit what happened to me twice.
I never talked about it until a couple of years ago.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 12:45:45pm |
OMG! They won’t get into medical school or law school! SMH
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gwangung Jun 20, 2014 12:45:45pm |
Not a surprise. He’ll straight up lie about scientific research. He certainly doesn’t care about women.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 12:47:41pm |
I love how he says several times, “It’s my job” … to be a heartless asshole.
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 12:47:52pm |
Oh come on, folks, can’t you see that George is all broken up over the possible damage to the futures of these young men? Yeah, he doesn’t seem to give much of a shit about their victims, but damnit, these boys might not get into medical school! This is just an absolute travesty!
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 12:48:02pm |
Near the end, he admits that the only reason he wrote about it was because he’s a troll.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 12:48:20pm |
re: #13 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Near the end, he admits that the only reason he wrote about it was because he’s a troll.
It’s his job to be a troll.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 12:49:05pm |
re: #12 Targetpractice
It’s discrimination is what it is! Bias against rapists.
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BroncD Jun 20, 2014 12:49:07pm |
He needs to stick with writing boring baseball columns.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 12:49:31pm |
re: #5 aagcobb
Hope we can get some GOP senatorial candidates commenting favorably on how women falsely report rape to obtain that coveted victimhood status. Though by now you’d think they would’ve learned that when the word “rape” comes up, the only appropriate response is to say that it is a horrendous crime which should be vigorously prosecuted and victims should get all the assistance they need for their recovery.
They can’t really talk sensibly about rape. After all, US so-cons are perilously close to approving of rape, as long at it only happens to uppity women and other undesirables (e.g., prison inmates).
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 12:49:39pm |
He’s worried about the men who are accused of rape, because he takes sexual assault more seriously than his critics do.
The real bad people are the ones who keep young men from getting into medical school by holding them accountable for their behavior.
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 12:50:03pm |
George seems to think Animal House was a documentary.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 12:51:23pm |
re: #1 Gus
Wait. You mean the well respected, non-partisan, moderate, and non-polarizing George Will?
You need a stamp for that. Or a tattoo.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 12:51:31pm |
re: #18 wrenchwench
He’s worried about the men who are accused of rape, because he takes sexual assault more seriously than his critics do.
The real bad people are the ones who keep young men from getting into medical school by holding them accountable for their behavior.
Because our society needs more doctors and lawyers who got away with sexual assault in college.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 12:51:50pm |
re: #7 Justanotherhuman
Yeah, women want this “coveted” status, all right. Even though it took me almost 50 yrs to publicly admit what happened to me twice.
I never talked about it until a couple of years ago.
But men’s lives are upended by these accusations!
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aagcobb Jun 20, 2014 12:52:10pm |
I wonder if George was thinking of all the women who wouldn’t give him the time of day when he was a geeky loser in college, and fantasizing about giving them the business?
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Jun 20, 2014 12:52:16pm |
As someone who was raped I can’t tell you how great this victimhood status is. Yeah.
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 12:52:38pm |
Say George, if you take rape so seriously, perhaps you might start treating men as equal partners in it and ask them why they got so drunk that they allowed their hormones to get the better of them. You know, just like you’d question their victims.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 12:53:01pm |
Say what you will about Bloody Bill Kristol, but George Will has been the most successful troll. I blame the bow-tie.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 12:53:07pm |
Of course, how could George Will be wrong? He’s never been wrong a day in his life. You can tell by how easily he puts all of this to rest. That is a man of conviction and damn sure of his own opinion.
“Now, pass the scotch. I need to find out why papers may be dropping me.”
/
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Dr. Matt Jun 20, 2014 12:53:40pm |
Ugh,…I’ve got nothing….so here’s a pic of dog, in a bathtub, wearing a wig, and licking spider man:
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AntonSirius Jun 20, 2014 12:54:19pm |
Yes George, you desiccated fucktard, the criminal justice system has done a great job handling rape charges in the past.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 12:54:26pm |
re: #29 Dr. Matt
Ugh,…I’ve got nothing….so here’s a pic of dog, in a bathtub, wearing a wig, and licking spider man:
[Embedded image]
LOL
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 12:54:28pm |
re: #27 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Say what you will about Bloody Bill Kristol, but George Will has been the most successful troll. I blame the bow-tie.
Kristol strikes me as stupid, Will appears more malevolent.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 12:56:19pm |
Have we gotten to the stage yet where he claims to be victimized by the feedback yet?
I eagerly await having someone explain to me why his free speech means that we must all now buy the Post in order to make sure that he doesn’t suffer any kind of economic consequences for his position.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 12:56:29pm |
re: #32 b_sharp
Kristol strikes me as stupid, Will appears more malevolent.
Will doesn’t only appear more malevolent, he has the sincerity of conviction. As I mentioned above, I met him at a cookout, and the dude was creepy sure of himself. I felt sorry for his autistic son, who kept telling his dad he was wrong about Iraq.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 12:56:34pm |
re: #22 Charles Johnson
Because our society needs more doctors and lawyers who got away with sexual assault in college.
You shouldn’t keep great men down. Anyone that would use rape as a way to stop some young man from finding the cure for cancer…
er,…or raping again…
er, uh. Um. Something or something.
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TedStriker Jun 20, 2014 12:56:47pm |
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Flying Squirrel Girl Jun 20, 2014 12:57:46pm |
re: #15 Charles Johnson
Of course! Just look how the whole town turned against the Marysville football players! Look at the multiple suicide attempts by those poor guys!
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TedStriker Jun 20, 2014 12:58:02pm |
re: #16 BroncD
He needs to stick with writing boring baseball columns.
And railing against people wearing blue jeans.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 1:00:20pm |
I appreciated his “boring” baseball book, as someone who’s not a huge baseball fan, but on politics, he’s awful.
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Flying Squirrel Girl Jun 20, 2014 1:01:27pm |
Daisy Coleman probably only attempted suicide twice after she was assaulted to make those boys look even worse!!! She really should have thought about them.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:01:30pm |
You’d think that the “Law ‘N Order” Conservatives would be more supportive of the victims, but I guess the problem is that it’s feminists who are bringing the topic up, AND the kind of rape they’re talking about isn’t the kind where the perp is a violent stranger, ideally a minority, and the victim is chaste and ideally white. Also it probably makes them uncomfortable to think that getting a girl drunk and taking advantage is a bad thing.
It was only a brief time ago where probably most of them thought that there could be no such thing as rape in a marriage.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:01:59pm |
Knee deep in shit and not a smell upon him. Delusional.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 1:03:27pm |
re: #41 GeneJockey
It was only a brief time ago where probably most of them thought that there could be no such thing as rape in a marriage.
Like, 2 minutes ago?
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:04:11pm |
re: #43 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Like, 2 minutes ago?
Yah. I’m probably being too charitable in my thinking.
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Shazam Jun 20, 2014 1:05:18pm |
It totally isn’t like the opposite, where most rapes go unreported because being raped isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 1:05:26pm |
re: #12 Targetpractice
Oh come on, folks, can’t you see that George is all broken up over the possible damage to the futures of these young men? Yeah, he doesn’t seem to give much of a shit about their victims, but damnit, these boys might not get into medical school! This is just an absolute travesty!
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Will shows all the signs of an elite, privileged boarding school type who remembers when “boys will be boys” and turning one into the police would “ruin a young man’s future.” Yeah, it’s that kind of attitude even if he wasn’t that privileged w/money, although since his father was a professor, he was able to get a leg up at the UI jr/sr high school which was considered “elite”. Will and I are the same age, from the same generation, and I saw it in actual practice. No doubt he did, too, and it shaped his perspective.
Never mind the damage it did to women who were forced to just bear it or suffer the consequences, because no one would believe that such “fine young men” would be the actual pigs they were.
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 1:06:08pm |
I believe I’ve mentioned it before, but this past March I had to sit on a jury for a rape trial. And that had to be the most uncomfortable three days of my life. It was the sort of trial that George Will would have quickly blown off, two teens in court with the girl claiming she’d been taken advantage of while passed out and the guy claiming she’d been a willing participant. Even if the prosecutor hadn’t screwed up with her medical witness, bringing in a nurse examiner who wasn’t qualified to testify as the conclusions of the medical exam, the case was still pretty flimsy. It was her word against his, no other witnesses to the event itself, and plenty of doubt as to veracity of her claim.
I never felt more emotionally drained when, after five hours of deliberation, I had to vote to acquit. Do I believe she was raped? I can really only say that, in her mind, what happened was rape. Can I prove it? Not beyond reasonable doubt. I can say that I think the defendant is a sleazeball, and I think he’s on borrowed time before he’s back in court on another criminal charge.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:07:33pm |
re: #46 Justanotherhuman
He yearns as does the entire GOP of them halcyon days where men were men and women cried in their sleep. Fuck. You.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 1:07:36pm |
I wonder if Julian Assange is sending kisses George Will’s way.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 20, 2014 1:07:42pm |
OT, but does any Lizard recognize this rendering of a (possible) military base decal?
This would have been from the 1970s or thereabouts.
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aagcobb Jun 20, 2014 1:09:01pm |
Its going to make it hard for George to criticize Hillary for her defense of a criminal defendant accused of rape.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 1:09:14pm |
re: #47 Targetpractice
I believe I’ve mentioned it before, but this past March I had to sit on a jury for a rape trial. And that had to be the most uncomfortable three days of my life. It was the sort of trial that George Will would have quickly blown off, two teens in court with the girl claiming she’d been taken advantage of while passed out and the guy claiming she’d been a willing participant. Even if the prosecutor hadn’t screwed up with her medical witness, bringing in a nurse examiner who wasn’t qualified to testify as the conclusions of the medical exam, the case was still pretty flimsy. It was her word against his, no other witnesses to the event itself, and plenty of doubt as to veracity of her claim.
I never felt more emotionally drained when, after five hours of deliberation, I had to vote to acquit. Do I believe she was raped? I can really only say that, in her mind, what happened was rape. Can I prove it? Not beyond reasonable doubt. I can say that I think the defendant is a sleazeball, and I think he’s on borrowed time before he’s back in court on another criminal charge.
Similar case I sat on. Basically he said/she said. Never want to be in that position again. (It wasn’t a rape case, but an assault case - misdemeanor)
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bubba zanetti Jun 20, 2014 1:09:23pm |
And in other asshole news, for some reason Weird Twitter really has it out for Todd Starnes lately:
the melvins-night goat plays as the biker gang i'm infiltrating and i traffic pure maryland piss to todd starnes in new york— Hot Take Fuck (@swarthyvillain) June 20, 2014
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TedStriker Jun 20, 2014 1:10:35pm |
re: #20 Targetpractice
George seems to think Animal House was a documentary.
It wasn’t? ///
Well, I guess it does sort of make sense, seeing as today’s conservative/TPGOP mantra is lifted straight from the movie: “You fucked up…you trusted us!”
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Testy Toad T Jun 20, 2014 1:10:52pm |
re: #51 aagcobb
Its going to make it hard for George to criticize Hillary for her defense of a criminal defendant accused of rape.
No it won’t. Such mental gymnastics are trivial for the modern Republican.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 1:11:20pm |
re: #54 TedStriker
It wasn’t?
Well, I guess it does sort of make sense, seeing as today’s conservative/TPGOP mantra is lifted straight from the movie: “You fucked up…you trusted us!”
I thought they meant it wasn’t over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 1:11:27pm |
I made the mistake of reading some of the comments on the WaPo piece.
Ugh.
Some days I think we’re making progress and then the amount of victim blaming/slut shaming/let’s put sexual assault in scare quotes because it’s just women overreacting to men being men…
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:12:38pm |
re: #51 aagcobb
Its going to make it hard for George to criticize Hillary for her defense of a criminal defendant accused of rape.
I think that kind of attack has to be the lowest of the low. These assholes claim to worship the Constitution and the rights enshrined therein, one of the most important of which is that the Government can’t just chuck you in jail forever without trial, and that you have the right to be competently represented at that trial.
But no, their desire to punish the wicked overrides their alleged love of rights.
Again.
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Timothy Watson Jun 20, 2014 1:12:53pm |
re: #54 TedStriker
It wasn’t?
Well, I guess it does sort of make sense, seeing as today’s conservative/TPGOP mantra is lifted straight from the movie: “You fucked up…you trusted us!”
Not to mention the entire channel which seems to be based off of Howard Beale.
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 1:13:46pm |
re: #59 Timothy Watson
Not to mention, the entire channel which seems to be based off of Howard Beale.
Network was scary prescient.
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aagcobb Jun 20, 2014 1:16:25pm |
re: #57 klys
I made the mistake of reading some of the comments on the WaPo piece.
Ugh.
Some days I think we’re making progress and then the amount of victim blaming/slut shaming/let’s put sexual assault in scare quotes because it’s just women overreacting to men being men…
If she didn’t want it, she wouldn’t have worn that burqa so provocatively.//
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 20, 2014 1:17:07pm |
re: #58 GeneJockey
I think that kind of attack has to be the lowest of the low. These assholes claim to worship the Constitution and the rights enshrined therein, one of the most important of which is that the Government can’t just chuck you in jail forever without trial, and that you have the right to be competently represented at that trial.
But no, their desire to punish the wicked overrides their alleged love of rights.
Again.
I would also fear their definition of “the wicked” if they gain greater power and influence.
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Decatur Deb Jun 20, 2014 1:17:23pm |
re: #50 Dr Lizardo
OT, but does any Lizard recognize this rendering of a (possible) military base decal?
This would have been from the 1970s or thereabouts.
Info here. Looks like a NASA contractor organization:
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 1:17:27pm |
re: #58 GeneJockey
I think that kind of attack has to be the lowest of the low. These assholes claim to worship the Constitution and the rights enshrined therein, one of the most important of which is that the Government can’t just chuck you in jail forever without trial, and that you have the right to be competently represented at that trial.
But no, their desire to punish the wicked overrides their alleged love of rights.
Again.
Punish certain wicked people. If you’re rich and affluential, then you obviously just made a mistake and need to be given a break. But you’re so poor that you, like the defendant in that case, need to have a court-appointed attorney like Hillary? Then you’re guilty as sin and anybody who’d defend you is an immoral monster.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 20, 2014 1:17:51pm |
re: #62 aagcobb
If she didn’t want it, she wouldn’t have worn that burqa so provocatively.//
Or what is under the burqa.
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Rameau Jun 20, 2014 1:19:32pm |
One can disagree with Will without hating him. I for usually do disagree.
One can hate rape without believing that sex after drinking (or after getting high) is rape just because drinking took place..
I regret having to choose between Charles Johnson, and K.C. Johnson, but on his issue I find myself in agreement with K,C. Johnson (as well as FIRE, and CHERM) regarding their abiding concern with due process “even” when grave issues such as rape and murder are involved.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:20:21pm |
re: #63 Feline Fearless Leader
I would also fear their definition of “the wicked” if they gain greater power and influence.
Did I mention that I was once told I was the worst person in the world?
“Worse than Hitler?” I asked.
“YES!!”
Well, okay then.
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Testy Toad T Jun 20, 2014 1:21:09pm |
re: #67 Rameau
I read this three times before giving up.
If there’s a point in there, it’s a well-camouflaged one.
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Dr Lizardo Jun 20, 2014 1:22:10pm |
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:22:21pm |
re: #70 Testy Toad T
I read this three times before giving up.
If there’s a point in there, it’s a well-camouflaged one.
Me too. I call BS. Done.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:24:11pm |
re: #70 Testy Toad T
I read this three times before giving up.
If there’s a point in there, it’s a well-camouflaged one.
Sometimes, there’s flecks of gold in the mud at the bottom of a creekbed.
Generally, though, just mud.
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TedStriker Jun 20, 2014 1:24:25pm |
re: #25 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
As someone who was raped I can’t tell you how great this victimhood status is. Yeah.
re: #41 GeneJockey
You’d think that the “Law ‘N Order” Conservatives would be more supportive of the victims, but I guess the problem is that it’s feminists who are bringing the topic up, AND the kind of rape they’re talking about isn’t the kind where the perp is a violent stranger, ideally a minority, and the victim is chaste and ideally white. Also it probably makes them uncomfortable to think that getting a girl drunk and taking advantage is a bad thing.
It was only a brief time ago where probably most of them thought that there could be no such thing as rape in a marriage.
Precisely.
Conservatives tend to only be all law-and-order on rape if it’s black/brown man-on-white woman; anything else either triggers the circle-the-wagons response (when it’s well-off white dudes doing the raping) or simply doesn’t compute in their microscopic brains (all other cases).
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aagcobb Jun 20, 2014 1:25:02pm |
re: #69 GeneJockey
Did I mention that I was once told I was the worst person in the world?
“Worse than Hitler?” I asked.
“YES!!”
Well, okay then.
But not worse than Obama, I bet. He’s the worst person in the history of the world.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 1:26:11pm |
re: #67 Rameau
One can disagree with Will without hating him. I for usually do disagree.
One can hate rape without believing that sex after drinking (or after getting high) is rape just because drinking took place..
I regret having to choose between Charles Johnson, and K.C. Johnson, but on his issue I find myself in agreement with K,C. Johnson (as well as FIRE, and CHERM) regarding their abiding concern with due process “even” when grave issues such as rape and murder are involved.
What part of sex without consent being rape is not clear?
What part of consent being impossible when one is too drunk to meaningfully say yes is not clear?
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 1:26:46pm |
re: #67 Rameau
my analysis of the not-very-explicit point here is that rameau thinks that rape accusations are overdone
but this is my extrapolation so i will let rameau clarify his/her meaning themself
in the meantime, how about
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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Jun 20, 2014 1:28:53pm |
re: #67 Rameau
One can disagree with Will without hating him. I for usually do disagree.
One can hate rape without believing that sex after drinking (or after getting high) is rape just because drinking took place..
Nobody here believes this.
I regret having to choose between Charles Johnson, and K.C. Johnson, but on his issue I find myself in agreement with K,C. Johnson (as well as FIRE, and CHERM) regarding their abiding concern with due process “even” when grave issues such as rape and murder are involved.
Nobody here believes rapists shouldn’t get due process.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 1:29:06pm |
re: #67 Rameau
It’s one thing to debate what constitutes consent, what counts as evidence for rape and what doesn’t, etc.
But to claim that the status of a rape victim is coveted is so out there, that…
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 1:29:59pm |
re: #46 Justanotherhuman
Will shows all the signs of an elite, privileged boarding school type who remembers when “boys will be boys” and turning one into the police would “ruin a young man’s future.” Yeah, it’s that kind of attitude even if he wasn’t that privileged w/money, although since his father was a professor, he was able to get a leg up at the UI jr/sr high school which was considered “elite”. Will and I are the same age, from the same generation, and I saw it in actual practice. No doubt he did, too, and it shaped his perspective.
Never mind the damage it did to women who were forced to just bear it or suffer the consequences, because no one would believe that such “fine young men” would be the actual pigs they were.
This attitude is really no different in ALL the things many call “The War on Women.” To many guys of that generation (my oldest brother is 74) it is just collateral damage and the women should get over it, they have it good, what’s the big deal and thousands of other excuses men had and used while men were in control or thought they were.
Since the late 60s and early 70s, that shit changed and those excuses no longer cut it. I know…I graduated high school in ‘72 and after that college…graduated in early ‘77. It was already clear to me that old thinking was gone. Not that some of the guys my age (almost 60) didn’t try it, but they already knew they were being fuck-ups and skirting the law, etc.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:30:47pm |
I must go attack alien life forms from space, AKA Weeds. If we could only get them to bear fruit or nut or edible seed…
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:31:22pm |
re: #81 nines09
I must go attack alien life forms from space, AKA Weeds. If we could only get them to bear fruit or nut or edible seed…
I can highly recommend goats.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:32:28pm |
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 1:33:12pm |
re: #67 Rameau
One can hate rape without believing that sex after drinking (or after getting high) is rape just because drinking took place…
do you have a personal stake in the particular issue of whether a drunk person is in a position to consent to sex?
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:33:23pm |
….re: #67 Rameau
I’ve got one for you. If you went camping and woke up with your ass sore and your panties or underalls down around your ankles…..Would you tell anyone? No? Want to go camping?
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:33:41pm |
re: #83 nines09
They know not when to stop.
True. You have to fence off the areas you don’t want stripped. And they go for the stuff you like first.
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Single-handed sailor Jun 20, 2014 1:33:48pm |
re: #67 Rameau
You sound like a rapist.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:35:07pm |
re: #86 GeneJockey
True. You have to fence off the areas you don’t want stripped. And they go for the stuff you like first.
They are a munching machine and I’m still amazed at how high they can jump. Fence? Hahahhahaha.
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Decatur Deb Jun 20, 2014 1:35:41pm |
re: #71 Dr Lizardo
OK. Interesting.
The discussion looks like it doesn’t follow from the site. Weird.
(Lots of R&D organizations and their contractors cook up very short-lived project symbolism. It differs from official insignia approved by the various service heraldry agencies.)
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 1:36:25pm |
re: #88 nines09
They are a munching machine and I’m still amazed at how high they can jump. Fence? Hahahhahaha.
Well, it helps if it’s electric. They didn’t get over our 6’ privacy fence, either.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:36:58pm |
re: #90 GeneJockey
SIX FEET. I rest my case….
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 1:38:43pm |
Just like the country song, “Trashy Women” except ___________.
I always hated that song. Jerry Jeff Walker wrote it in 1989.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 1:43:13pm |
Woot!
National Republican Senatorial Committee raises $5.8 million in May, falling short of Democrat’s committee, which raised $8.3 million - @politico
Read more on politico.com
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 1:44:38pm |
re: #67 Rameau
What’s your interest in repeatedly defending George Will? Is it the issue or the person?
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:45:22pm |
re: #94 wrenchwench
What’s your interest in repeatedly defending George Will? Is it the issue or the person?
The smell?
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bratwurst Jun 20, 2014 1:48:26pm |
I will shamelessly take this opportunity to mention a page I wrote about George Will’s tenuous grasp on reality nearly 4 years ago!
My favorite part is where he suggests changing gender roles might have something to do with the lack of westerns on TV. I am not kidding!
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 1:48:32pm |
re: #87 Single-handed sailor
You sound like a rapist.
Well, there was alcohol involved…and I didn’t know she said no, stop it. So, that isn’t really rape because I was out of my mind. I need due process to protect me from this hussy that is going to ruin my life and from myself because I am one dumb mother.
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 1:50:56pm |
re: #94 wrenchwench
What’s your interest in repeatedly defending George Will? Is it the issue or the person?
“Impaired consent”? WTF? Are we back to blaming the victim?
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 1:51:51pm |
WEEDS BBL if I survive…..Breaking……Film at 11……This JUST in……Now reported…….Sources say……Video emerges…..man falls down in yard….Update at 6….
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 1:55:59pm |
re: #99 Targetpractice
“Impaired consent”? WTF? Are we back to blaming the victim?
I doubt “Rameau” gets many dates with that kind of thinking.
Ply them with alcohol, then I have to take no responsibility for what I do.
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bratwurst Jun 20, 2014 1:57:33pm |
re: #99 Targetpractice
“Impaired consent”? WTF? Are we back to blaming the victim?
I think we have some kind of Men’s Rights Activist on our hands here.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 1:57:42pm |
re: #101 Justanotherhuman
I doubt “Rameau” gets many dates with that kind of thinking.
Ply them with alcohol, then I have to take no responsibility for what I do.
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missliberties Jun 20, 2014 1:58:39pm |
There are rare instances of women playing the rape card to garner sympathy.
????? Okay Will ?????? Has this happened to you buddy?
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 1:59:36pm |
re: #97 ObserverArt
Well, there was alcohol involved…and I didn’t know she said no, stop it. So, that isn’t really rape because I was out of my mind. I need due process to protect me from this hussy that is going to ruin my life and from myself because I am one dumb mother.
///
That was another of the highlights of the case I sat on the jury for, the guy’s insistence that she was raring to go because she hadn’t stopped him. And his defense attorney made sure to emphasize that she had not at any time cried out or gave an indication that she was distressed until after he’d dropped her off at her sister’s apartment.
Yes, it was another of those “She didn’t want to get in trouble, so she cried ‘RAPE!’” cases.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 2:03:18pm |
re: #104 missliberties
There are rare instances of women playing the rape card to garner sympathy.
????? Okay Will ?????? Has this happened to you buddy?
He heard it standing at the urinal in a restaurant in DC back in the day before people put (or faked) presidential heads in them to be pissed on. Bored while waiting to get his stream going he was listening to other dudes talking.
Anyway, a guy was going on about his cousin that had a brother who knew a guy that was framed for rape 4 times!
FACT!
/
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 2:03:51pm |
re: #104 missliberties
There are rare instances of women playing the rape card to garner sympathy.
????? Okay Will ?????? Has this happened to you buddy?
Will is still pissed that a woman made him feel sorry for her once. He’s not going to let that happen again.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 2:05:16pm |
re: #108 wrenchwench
Will is still pissed that a woman made him feel sorry for her once. He’s not going to let that happen again.
Will has been married twice. It must have been the first wife since he’s still married to the second one.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 2:05:20pm |
re: #107 ObserverArt
We both managed to work urine into our responses. I blame the first thread of the day.
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Irving Jun 20, 2014 2:05:53pm |
George Will: single-handedly working to make bow ties uncool again.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 2:07:00pm |
I need to focus on good things. So.
Dinner tonight: gruyere and olive tapanade grilled cheese (on olive bread!), with wilted garlic kale (attempted) and a summer corn salad.
Tomorrow I get an outdoor performance of Taming of the Shrew.
Sunday a massage and hot water.
We have new pipes and I am making reasonable progress on stitching. Hooray.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 2:08:36pm |
re: #111 Irving
George Will: single-handedly working to make bow ties uncool again.
Oddly enough, the professor Johnson chosen by Rameau as being superior to the blogger Johnson is also a bow tie freak.
Professor Johnson’s trademark is the bow tie, which he can often be seen wearing at events and conferences.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 2:08:40pm |
re: #110 wrenchwench
We both managed to work urine into our responses. I blame the first thread of the day.
I always try to comment and include little bits of the entire day’s comments to make little stories that fit the times. Might as well have some fun with all this. It helps to keep from crying about all the nuttiness.
In a non-trolling way mind you.
; )
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 2:09:41pm |
re: #112 klys
I need to focus on good things. So.
Dinner tonight: gruyere and olive tapanade grilled cheese (on olive bread!), with wilted garlic kale (attempted) and a summer corn salad.
Tomorrow I get an outdoor performance of Taming of the Shrew.
Sunday a massage and hot water.
We have new pipes and I am making reasonable progress on stitching. Hooray.
Pipes is good!
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klys Jun 20, 2014 2:11:15pm |
re: #117 ObserverArt
Pipes is good!
We passed final inspection yesterday so now it’s just a matter of getting the solder completely flushed out. I am a big fan of it not taking 5 minutes for hot water to arrive in the master bathroom.
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Rameau Jun 20, 2014 2:11:29pm |
re: #70 Testy Toad T
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
One can believe this and still repudiate Will’s “coveted status.”
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 2:11:41pm |
Obviously, Will doesn’t mind making subjectively derived revenge remarks toward people, either.
Maseng sought work on Romney campaign
He is a very petty person who tries very hard to give off an intellectual odor.
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TedStriker Jun 20, 2014 2:14:42pm |
re: #111 Irving
George Will: single-handedly working to make bow ties uncool again.
Nah, Will has help from Tucker Carlson on that one.
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Jack Burton Jun 20, 2014 2:15:36pm |
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 2:15:38pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
One can believe this and still repudiate Will’s “coveted status.”
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad narrow, people who are not guilty of it will not be accused of it.
I suppose we each want to use our own definitions.
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iossarian Jun 20, 2014 2:17:59pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
Are you willing to state what your definition of rape is, how it differs from this hypothetical “too broad” concept, and who espouses the latter?
Otherwise this looks an awful lot like a classic straw man argument.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 2:20:16pm |
Note: This relates to the advisers already in Iraq and up to 300 who might be added. The “575 new troops” is incorrect.
U.S and Iraq talking over legal immunity for troops
“The U.S. and Iraqi governments are revisiting the controversial issue of legal immunity for American troops, the key sticking point that prompted a complete withdraw of troops in 2011.
“As the Pentagon prepares to send up to 575 new troops into Iraq, officials say, talks are underway with the Iraqis to clarify the legal protections for service members working outside the U.S embassy.
“We are pursuing something in writing,” Rear Adm. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said Friday.” More
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 2:20:50pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
One can believe this and still repudiate Will’s “coveted status.”
This doesn’t sound much removed from Will’s suggestion that young men’s lived are “ruined” simply by being accused of rape, while their victims are somehow granted “coveted status” by being identified as rape victims.
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gwangung Jun 20, 2014 2:29:13pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
Basically, then, it sounds like you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 2:29:54pm |
The Dudebros™ are not going to like this. At all.
Obama Adm announces its request for a 90 day reauthorization of Sect. 215 metedata program was approved as they wait for larger reforms— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) June 20, 2014
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bratwurst Jun 20, 2014 2:31:27pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
It must be SUCH a burden for you, having to be 100% certain you have a woman’s consent.
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Kid A Jun 20, 2014 2:33:42pm |
And George Will’s status at Fixed News will be elevated after this, I’m sure.
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Romantic Heretic Jun 20, 2014 2:34:35pm |
re: #70 Testy Toad T
I read this three times before giving up.
If there’s a point in there, it’s a well-camouflaged one.
He said if a woman gets drunk she can’t complain about anything that happens to her.
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thedopefishlives Jun 20, 2014 2:35:39pm |
re: #127 Targetpractice
This doesn’t sound much removed from Will’s suggestion that young men’s lived are “ruined” simply by being accused of rape, while their victims are somehow granted “coveted status” by being identified as rape victims.
See, the first half of that argument does sort of play out in the media. Rapists are looked upon as dirty evil people (as they should be), and not everyone is good enough to adhere to the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”. That being said, if you’re even remotely concerned about the possibility of a girl crying rape, perhaps you should rethink your approach to dating rather than complain about it.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 2:35:52pm |
re: #126 Rameau
Sorry, that should have been NCHERM.
This NCHERM?
The NCHERM Group is the umbrella for eight linked organizations which serve to advance holistic, proactive prevention and risk management within K-12 schools and on college and university campuses. The NCHERM Group is both a law and consulting practice that has served the education field for more than 15 years. As a law firm, The NCHERM Group represents 35 colleges and universities as outside counsel, making it one of the largest higher education-specific law practices in the country. As a consulting group, The NCHERM Group’s twenty-four consultants have provided services to more than 3,000 clients, giving it unparalleled reach and impact on the field. The NCHERM Way has become the risk management touchstone for schools, colleges and universities across the country.
I bet they are in favor of women getting a fair hearing in a rape case, as long as it didn’t happen on or near an educational facility.
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Romantic Heretic Jun 20, 2014 2:38:04pm |
re: #102 bratwurst
I think we have some kind of Men’s
RightsPower Activist on our hands here.
That’s what these sad sacks of shit are really about; men having absolute power over women once again.
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Nines All The Times Jun 20, 2014 2:39:43pm |
re: #135 wrenchwench
So. We are back to which way the body fell? On or off “Property”? Nice game. Money is at stake.
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 2:40:33pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
One can believe this and still repudiate Will’s “coveted status.”
what is it that leads you to think that there are some people who have a concept of rape that you think is “too broad”?
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Rameau Jun 20, 2014 2:40:45pm |
re: #127 Targetpractice
Will’s assertion that an accuser “covets” making an accusation is inexcusable.
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bratwurst Jun 20, 2014 2:41:32pm |
People sometimes ask me why I prefer living in Germany to the US (where I am now to be closer to family). One reason is that polemic nonsense like you see below is not legal there. Call it a violation of free speech and stifling to the marketplace of ideas, but it certainly leads to a higher level of public discourse when folks almost never compare each other (or public institutions) to Nazis.
Fox News host Mike Huckabee: “The IRS is the closest thing the U.S. has to a Gestapo” http://t.co/OfCMNYZbVy pic.twitter.com/nkCcLEymqr— Media Matters (@mmfa) June 20, 2014
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calochortus Jun 20, 2014 2:42:08pm |
OK, I think we can all agree that a rape where you suffer a broken arm and a couple broken ribs, and fear for your life is probably worse than some guy forcing himself on a virtually unconsious woman at the end of a date. That doesn’t make either one OK.
Furthermore, the fact that it isn’t rape doesn’t make being groped by someone OK either.
The fact that a few people who claim to be crime victims are lying doesn’t mean women who say they have been raped need to be subjected to special scrutiny.
Thank you for your kind attention. That is all.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 2:43:59pm |
re: #140 bratwurst
When I saw that chyron out of the corner of my eye, I first thought it read “House overwhelmingly stupid…”
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Dr Lizardo Jun 20, 2014 2:45:55pm |
re: #140 bratwurst
People sometimes ask me why I prefer living in Germany to the US (where I am now to be closer to family). One reason is that polemic nonsense like you see below is not legal there. Call it a violation of free speech and stifling to the marketplace of ideas, but it certainly leads to a higher level of public discourse when folks almost never compare each other (or public institutions) to Nazis.
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Heh. I think a lot of RWNJ’s would find themselves in a good deal of trouble with the Bundesverfassungsgericht.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 2:47:33pm |
re: #139 Rameau
Will’s assertion that an accuser “covets” making an accusation is inexcusable.
So you have finally agreed with Charles, thereby refuting your own first comment.
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calochortus Jun 20, 2014 2:48:39pm |
re: #140 bratwurst
People sometimes ask me why I prefer living in Germany to the US (where I am now to be closer to family). One reason is that polemic nonsense like you see below is not legal there. Call it a violation of free speech and stifling to the marketplace of ideas, but it certainly leads to a higher level of public discourse when folks almost never compare each other (or public institutions) to Nazis.
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On the other hand, if the IRS is as close as we get to the Gestapo, we’re in really good shape. Not quite as good as if it were some symphony orchestra or something that was as close as we get, but I feel pretty safe the way things are.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 2:49:47pm |
re: #119 Rameau
If one’s concept of what constitutes rape is too broad, people who are not guilty of it will be accused of it.
One can believe this and still repudiate Will’s “coveted status.”
1) Is sex without consent rape? Yes or no answer please.
2) Can someone who is totally drunk give consent? Yes or no answer please.
for extra credit
3) Can someone who is underage give consent to an adult? Yes or no answer please.
This shit is not hard.
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Kid A Jun 20, 2014 2:52:51pm |
That second career of making bow ties has been calling you George for some time now. I’d advise you to listen to it.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 2:53:27pm |
re: #147 calochortus
Free, full, and informed consent.
Enthusiastic consent makes it sound a bit less legalistic.
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NJDhockeyfan Jun 20, 2014 2:53:53pm |
Shadowy Obama megadonor indicted on fraud and manslaughter charges http://t.co/QhhPwZmCBs pic.twitter.com/jMpnVfFRR6— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) June 20, 2014
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calochortus Jun 20, 2014 2:55:01pm |
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 2:56:29pm |
re: #147 calochortus
On the whole, in most cases, yes. One area where things do get murky is a consent given by mentally impaired persons. Obviously, not every time such a person has sex they’re being raped, but their “diminished” consent also means that they’re extremely vulnerable to sexual abuse.
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 2:56:40pm |
re: #3 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Actually met George Will once at a cook-out. He’s just as much of an asshole as you’d think.
at a cook-out he might run the risk of encountering some of that dreaded ‘informality’ that worries him so much
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 2:58:15pm |
OK, now Russia, who has massed troops along the Ukraine border, previously took over Crimea and faked an election there, delivered equipment to its hand-picked eastern Ukraine “dissidents” and planted provocateurs, is crying like a baby because of sanctions imposed on it.
Russia files complaint with the World Trade Organization against the US for imposing sanctions over the Ukraine crisis, Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev says - @Reuters
End of alert
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Rocky-in-Connecticut Jun 20, 2014 3:00:32pm |
You know, that particular high school girl that crushed George Will’s heart by not recognizing his brilliant mind and charming personality (and denying him his rightful access to her body) I’m sure regrets her decision now.
He’ll show her.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 3:01:29pm |
re: #154 Justanotherhuman
OK, now Russia, who has massed troops along the Ukraine border, previously took over Crimea and faked an election there, delivered equipment to its hand-picked eastern Ukraine “dissidents” and planted provocateurs, is crying like a baby because of sanctions imposed on it.
Russia files complaint with the World Trade Organization against the US for imposing sanctions over the Ukraine crisis, Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev says - @Reuters
End of alert
Are those the same sanctions the talking heads and many a politician…plus a couple members here…laughed and pointed at and said would have no bearing?
Seems their buddy Vlad must feel differently.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:01:37pm |
re: #154 Justanotherhuman
A typical Russian national-patriot sees himself as a persecuted victim.
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calochortus Jun 20, 2014 3:02:41pm |
re: #152 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
On the whole, in most cases, yes. One area where things do get murky is a consent given by mentally impaired persons. Obviously, not every time such a person has sex they’re being raped, but their “diminished” consent also means that they’re extremely vulnerable to sexual abuse.
Very true. I recall hearing about an older woman with dementia who thought a man who lived at the same nursing home was her husband. Having a physical relationship might actually have been good for her (IIRC the man was treating her kindly and all-he just wasn’t who she thought he was.)
I don’t know what the correct decision would be in this case, or who would be the appropriate person to make that decision.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 3:02:43pm |
“An Open Letter to Higher Education about Sexual Violence,” from Brett A. Sokolow, Esq. and The NCHERM Group Partners
Ten page .pdf here.
Lays out the situation being dealt with on campuses wrt sexual assault and other issues. They say all the right things, pretty much. I’d advise someone who needed legal representation to get an independent advocate because NCHERM spends much of their time representing campuses, but they definitely have an understanding of the issues.
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ObserverArt Jun 20, 2014 3:03:37pm |
re: #155 Rocky-in-Connecticut
You know, that particular high school girl that crushed George Will’s heart by not recognizing his brilliant mind and charming personality (and denying him his rightful access to her body) I’m sure regrets her decision now.
He’ll show her.
Probably sitting back and reading or hearing of this and saying to herself…
“Always knew George was a creepy asshole. Glad I told him to fuck off all the way back then.”
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klys Jun 20, 2014 3:08:43pm |
re: #158 calochortus
Very true. I recall hearing about an older woman with dementia who thought a man who lived at the same nursing home was her husband. Having a physical relationship might actually have been good for her (IIRC the man was treating her kindly and all-he just wasn’t who she thought he was.)
I don’t know what the correct decision would be in this case, or who would be the appropriate person to make that decision.
I think that’s why people like to cling to the very clear-cut person-was-beaten-into-submitting definition of rape. Because it does avoid the murky grounds of intent and consent and what these things actually mean in practice.
However, papering over these issues doesn’t make them go away, as much as some conservatives would like them to. And, for that matter, some liberals as well.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 3:10:52pm |
It’s no small thing to wreck your 2011 Maserati GranTurismo in a pre-dawn jaunt through a working bus yard. But it’s another thing entirely to wreck a borrowed Maserati. And, in this case, a Maserati borrowed from one’s boss.
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calochortus Jun 20, 2014 3:11:01pm |
re: #161 klys
Many things would be easier if everything was binary-Good or Bad. That is not how life is and a lot of conservatives, in particular, have trouble with that.
(I’m sure there are liberals who have trouble with it too, we’ve just seen an awful lot of conservative discomfort with shades of gray lately.)
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Varek Raith Jun 20, 2014 3:11:50pm |
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:13:33pm |
Just one of many…
?????? ????? ?? ????? ????? ?? ???????, ?? ?????? ??????????. ?? ??????????? ????????? ?????. pic.twitter.com/SLul7NbElf— ?????????? (@euromaidan) June 20, 2014
“Today in Ivanovo a young man was buried, I knew him, in April he married the daughter of my friends. He died in the Donetsk airport. Together with him four more guys from Ivanovo died. I asked the parents - why did he go there? The answer was monstrous: “Credit debts…”
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klys Jun 20, 2014 3:14:16pm |
re: #164 Varek Raith
Oh my.
He failed a field sobriety test.
There’s a shocker for you.
Added bonus: we have clearly shown the existence of SF’s public transportation options in this story as well!
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 3:16:24pm |
re: #165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
Just one of many…
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Debtor’s army instead of debtors prison?
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 3:16:25pm |
My surprise, etc…
George Will's rape column was edited by a bunch of men: http://t.co/qpLuwRajLj— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) June 20, 2014
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Kid A Jun 20, 2014 3:17:15pm |
George Will on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch dropping his column that hasn’t mattered since the times of the horse and buggy: “They know how to propitiate the rabble. …These [brouhahas] are like summer storms. They dissipate fast.”
I’ve always felt conservatives have no self-awareness nor empathy for people. That quote confirms it.
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blueraven Jun 20, 2014 3:17:40pm |
re: #150 NJDhockeyfan
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Another reason to do away with Super PACs and limit campaign money.
If charges are true they should throw the book at him.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 3:18:04pm |
re: #169 Kid A
George Will on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch dropping his column that hasn’t mattered since the times of the horse and buggie: “They know how to propitiate the rabble. …These [brouhahas] are like summer storms. They dissipate fast.”
I’ve always felt conservatives have no self-awareness nor empathy for people. That quote confirms it.
Funny, that sounds just like KT.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:18:26pm |
re: #167 wrenchwench
Debtor’s army instead of debtors prison?
Not in the sense that anyone forced him. Apparently thought he could make a few bucks killing Ukrainians on their land.
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Decatur Deb Jun 20, 2014 3:18:49pm |
re: #169 Kid A
George Will on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch dropping his column that hasn’t mattered since the times of the horse and buggie: “They know how to propitiate the rabble. …These [brouhahas] are like summer storms. They dissipate fast.”
I’ve always felt conservatives have no self-awareness nor empathy for people. That quote confirms it.
Does he wear a powdered wig as well as a bow tie?
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 3:19:11pm |
re: #172 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
Not in the sense that anyone forced him. Apparently thought he could make a few bucks killing Ukrainians on their land.
Oh, OK. Mercenary?
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klys Jun 20, 2014 3:21:42pm |
re: #165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
Not directly related, but sparked by the comment (which I think the original was not a tweet so this is even less relevant, but…): I’m always fascinated by the different levels of information that can be fit into 140 characters. You can say an awful lot more on Twitter in Japanese than you can in English, for example.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:23:06pm |
Pretty surreal. The St. George ribbon, the supposed symbol of victory over Nazism, and the swastika. From one of the Russians fighting in Ukraine.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 20, 2014 3:24:09pm |
OT question for lizards owned by feline overlords.
Doorframe has developed some fur mats as a result of his recent injury, surgery and recuperation.
I know that using scissors to remove matted fur is a no-no for cats, so I’m over at Amazon right now looking for cat grooming tools.
Anyone have suggestions as to which grooming tools are worth looking at? He’s a short hair, so it’s not a complete disaster.
yet…
| 179 |
Kid A Jun 20, 2014 3:24:21pm |
George Will’s beloved Chicago Cubs have never won a World Series in his lifetime. God works in mysterious ways, George…
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 3:25:05pm |
re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth
OT question for lizards owned by feline overlords.
Doorframe has developed some fur mats as a result of his recent injury, surgery and recuperation.
I know that using scissors to remove matted fur is a no-no for cats, so I’m over at Amazon right now looking for cat grooming tools.
Anyone have suggestions as to which grooming tools are worth looking at? He’s a short hair, so it’s not a complete disaster.
yet…
Furminator?
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 3:25:51pm |
re: #168 Targetpractice
Fred Hiatt runs the WaPo editorial page. He’s a pox on humanity.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 20, 2014 3:26:10pm |
re: #180 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Furminator?
That’s one I have on the possible list. How well does it work?
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Rev_Arthur_Belling Jun 20, 2014 3:27:33pm |
re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s one I have on the possible list. How well does it work?
My cat loves it. The only problem is getting her to stay still because she gets into the brushing so much. There’s a low end model and a high-end model. I’ve never tried the high-end version.
Edit: And it pulls in a LOT of fur.
Edit 2: But she’s never had matted hair, so I can’t comment on how well it would work with that.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 3:28:15pm |
re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth
OT question for lizards owned by feline overlords.
Doorframe has developed some fur mats as a result of his recent injury, surgery and recuperation.
I know that using scissors to remove matted fur is a no-no for cats, so I’m over at Amazon right now looking for cat grooming tools.
Anyone have suggestions as to which grooming tools are worth looking at? He’s a short hair, so it’s not a complete disaster.
yet…
Two of my overlords are of the very fluffy variety, but for the most part this has thankfully been …less of a problem.
I have a comb with rolling teeth (really not sure what else to call it) that I will sometimes use to very slowly work things out. There is generally a lot of bribing involved.
Google tells me that you are supposed to use a mat splitter to cut the mats into smaller pieces to be removed with the comb.
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 20, 2014 3:28:54pm |
re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth
OT question for lizards owned by feline overlords.
Doorframe has developed some fur mats as a result of his recent injury, surgery and recuperation.
I know that using scissors to remove matted fur is a no-no for cats, so I’m over at Amazon right now looking for cat grooming tools.
Anyone have suggestions as to which grooming tools are worth looking at? He’s a short hair, so it’s not a complete disaster.
yet…
I’ve carefully combed a few out using a flea comb on a short hair. I try to hold the fur beneath the mat in order to reduce the pulling on the cat’s skin as much as possible. Cat was still not happy due to it being belly fur, but he put up with it for the most part. (This was with the older cats, and the one Siamese started to get mats and lots of loose tufts that needed combed out once his arthritis got bad enough he couldn’t groom his belly and back legs properly.)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 20, 2014 3:29:42pm |
Might just get both of the tools. One of the younger kittehs (the short hair one, not the rough coated one, oddly) has coughed up hairballs twice in the past month.
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calochortus Jun 20, 2014 3:30:30pm |
My sourdough starter is fully fed and burbling. Time to make some dough.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 3:37:36pm |
re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth
OT question for lizards owned by feline overlords.
Doorframe has developed some fur mats as a result of his recent injury, surgery and recuperation.
I know that using scissors to remove matted fur is a no-no for cats, so I’m over at Amazon right now looking for cat grooming tools.
Anyone have suggestions as to which grooming tools are worth looking at? He’s a short hair, so it’s not a complete disaster.
yet…
One of my cats lurrrrrrrrrrrvs this brush. Also, any other brush. The other kitteh seemed too sensitive for vigorous brushing, but once he got into it, his fave turned out to be this one, or one like it. Both are shorthairs.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 3:39:32pm |
re: #181 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Fred Hiatt runs the WaPo editorial page. He’s a pox on humanity.
John Hiatt makes up for it.
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Pie-onist Overlord Jun 20, 2014 3:43:15pm |
Here is the Pie of the Week:
Lemon Meringue.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:44:54pm |
re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord
[Pie-zombie mode on]PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEE!!
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Feline Fearless Leader Jun 20, 2014 3:46:22pm |
re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord
Here is the Pie of the Week:
Lemon Meringue.
[Embedded image]
If you make a hat out of it, is it then Carmen Meringue?
(runs for cover)
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 3:50:03pm |
re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord
Here is the Pie of the Week:
Lemon Meringue.
[Embedded image]
I hate you.
LM is my fav.
I don’t have any.
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Decatur Deb Jun 20, 2014 3:50:08pm |
re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord
Here is the Pie of the Week:
Lemon Meringue.
[Embedded image]
Now that’s just showing off.
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Killgore Trout Jun 20, 2014 3:52:06pm |
Wow! Anyone else getting nervous?
Embattled Iraqi Prime Miniser Nouri al-Maliki ‘won’t go quietly,’ foes and friends say
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki will not readily surrender power and is unlikely to do so unless chief ally Iran insists that he go, Maliki’s foes and supporters warn as pressure mounts on the embattled Iraqi leader to make concessions to rivals or step aside.
Looks like we’ve already crossed the point of no return on this one. This bell can’t be un-rung.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:53:00pm |
re: #197 Varek Raith
Road trip to Alouette’s house!
You can steal the pie with your teleportation ray, right?
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 3:54:06pm |
re: #199 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
You can steal the pie with your teleportation ray, right?
Only if you like flies embedded in it.
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Bubblehead II Jun 20, 2014 3:56:13pm |
Afternoon Lizards. Came home to no power. The little widget that monitors the battery life of my UPS says I have about 30 minutes left before it shuts down. Any world shattering news I need to be aware of other than George Will is a dick?
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:56:19pm |
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 3:57:22pm |
re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
Or files, if I’m in a space prison.
Might try molecular acid. Works faster.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 3:58:24pm |
re: #204 b_sharp
Might try molecular acid. Works faster.
I see you have experience escaping space prisons.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 3:59:47pm |
re: #205 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator
I see you have experience escaping space prisons.
I’m pleading the 5th.
Of scotch.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:03:54pm |
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:04:51pm |
re: #207 b_sharp
Everybody must be off grabbing a piece of pie.
We had a Smoothie happy hour here at work. Fortunately, there was also unhealthy snack food to be had.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 4:05:20pm |
The season finale of Fargo was as good as I’d hoped it would be. Just a great, great show - I actually think I enjoyed this more than True Detective. Off the wall characters that develop in completely unexpected ways. Billy Bob Thornton has the role of a lifetime.
Long form storytelling really works with Coen Brothers-type material. No Country For Old Men would have worked really well as a series like this — the film seemed too condensed in parts to really tell the full story.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 4:06:28pm |
When I first heard about the Fargo series, I doubted it would work, but they really pulled off something exceptional.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:06:54pm |
re: #210 Charles Johnson
The season of finale of Fargo was as good as I’d hoped it would be. Just a great, great show - I actually think I enjoyed this more than True Detective. Off the wall characters that develop in completely unexpected ways. Billy Bob Thornton has the role of a lifetime.
Long form storytelling really works with Coen Brothers-type material. No Country For Old Men would have worked really well as a series like this — the film seemed too condensed in parts to really tell the full story.
I have met several people who could not STAND the movie “Fargo”. I can only assume they were dropped on their heads as babies.
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Bubblehead II Jun 20, 2014 4:07:03pm |
Shutting down the tower and monitor and switching to the lap top wireless. That will leave the modem and 2 switches active on the UPS. Let the Games begin!
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 4:07:52pm |
re: #212 GeneJockey
I have met several people who could not STAND the movie “Fargo”. I can only assume they were dropped on their heads as babies.
I don’t get the movie. It’s OK, but that’s about it.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:08:29pm |
re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord
Here is the Pie of the Week:
Lemon Meringue.
[Embedded image]
Can I come live with you?
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 4:08:39pm |
re: #211 Charles Johnson
When I first heard about the Fargo series, I doubted it would work, but they really pulled off something exceptional.
golly i’ll have to try it then, eh?
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:10:28pm |
re: #216 dog philosopher
golly i’ll have to try it then, eh?
Me too. Gotta have SOMETHING to watch after we finish up Season 2 of “Orange Is The New Black”, and GoT, Mad Men, and House of Cards are done, and Boardwalk Empire hasn’t started up again yet.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:11:30pm |
re: #212 GeneJockey
I have met several people who could not STAND the movie “Fargo”. I can only assume they were dropped on their heads as babies.
I found the movie to be meh.
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Timothy Watson Jun 20, 2014 4:11:57pm |
re: #212 GeneJockey
I have met several people who could not STAND the movie “Fargo”. I can only assume they were dropped on their heads as babies.
I’ve never seen it, but I keep meaning to order a copy just because I find Peter Stormare such fun.
I can’t wait until the inevitable ham-off between him, James Spader, and Alan Alda next season on “The Blacklist”.
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Varek Raith Jun 20, 2014 4:12:02pm |
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:12:38pm |
re: #217 GeneJockey
Me too. Gotta have SOMETHING to watch after we finish up Season 2 of “Orange Is The New Black”, and GoT, Mad Men, and House of Cards are done, and Boardwalk Empire hasn’t started up again yet.
I can’t get into OitNB. I’m finding it monotonous, predictable and boring.
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Islamo-Masonic Conspirator Jun 20, 2014 4:12:59pm |
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:13:52pm |
re: #218 b_sharp
I found the movie to be meh.
“Meh” is not the same as “cannot STAND”. My sister actively hates it. She said she and her husband walked out of it when the kid was killed. (?)
It made me wonder what movie she actually walked out of.
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Varek Raith Jun 20, 2014 4:14:19pm |
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:14:28pm |
re: #224 GeneJockey
“Meh” is not the same as “cannot STAND”. My sister actively hates it. She said she and her husband walked out of it when the kid was killed. (?)
It made me wonder what movie she actually walked out of.
Is there a porn version?
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:14:55pm |
re: #219 Timothy Watson
I’ve never seen it, but I keep meaning to order a copy just because I find Peter Stormare such fun.
I can’t wait until the inevitable ham-off between him, James Spader, and Alan Alda next season on “The Blacklist”.
“I need unguent.”
He’s exceptionally low key in Fargo.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:15:14pm |
re: #225 Varek Raith
I can’t help it.
:P
I’ve just sent some Canadian Attack Zombie Beavers to get you.
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 4:17:50pm |
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:18:20pm |
re: #219 Timothy Watson
I’ve never seen it, but I keep meaning to order a copy just because I find Peter Stormare such fun.
I can’t wait until the inevitable ham-off between him, James Spader, and Alan Alda next season on “The Blacklist”.
Great, now I have the need to go dig out the MASH DVDs and watch some more.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:18:31pm |
re: #221 b_sharp
I can’t get into OitNB. I’m finding it monotonous, predictable and boring.
My wife enjoys it more than I do. Perhaps it’s more of a “Double X” kind of thing. I’m finding a number of the characters annoying, especially the lead. But, if the characters made good choices, they wouldn’t be in prison, would they?
Same thing with Thelma and Louise. I’d have shot Thelma in the first reel, or tossed her out of the car, over the cliff in the final scene.
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Snarknado! Jun 20, 2014 4:18:38pm |
re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth
OT question for lizards owned by feline overlords.
Doorframe has developed some fur mats as a result of his recent injury, surgery and recuperation.
I know that using scissors to remove matted fur is a no-no for cats, so I’m over at Amazon right now looking for cat grooming tools.
Anyone have suggestions as to which grooming tools are worth looking at? He’s a short hair, so it’s not a complete disaster.
yet…
I would use a scissors to cut along the mat, not across it (producing several smaller mats) then pull apart with my fingers and comb the “daughter” mats.
Am I evil?
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:20:50pm |
re: #57 klys
I made the mistake of reading some of the comments on the WaPo piece.
Ugh.
Some days I think we’re making progress and then the amount of victim blaming/slut shaming/let’s put sexual assault in scare quotes because it’s just women overreacting to men being men…
I had a massive, week long fight with my brother that played out over facebook, private phone calls and email…all over a fb post I put up about supporting ‘slutwalks’ that focus shame on rapists instead of the victims. My brother was utterly apoplectic that I would post such a thing and ended up publically disowning me as a family member after I took down several stalker-ish posts he left on my fb front page where he cursed at and attacked a female college friend of mine who defended my position.
He just recently started talking to me again, but things will never, ever be the same between us.
I talked to three different counselors about the incident and showed them the emails. Two of them were convinced he had sexually assaulted someone in the past based on his reaction to the original post.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:21:35pm |
re: #230 klys
Great, now I have the need to go dig out the MASH DVDs and watch some more.
Funny thing about MASH - I used to watch it all the time, back when it was still on network. I’d watch 2 or 3 episodes a day, plus the weekly new one. Then came the Series Finale - which I enjoyed - and I found I suddenly lost all desire to see it. This has continued to the present day.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 4:22:38pm |
re: #230 klys
Great, now I have the need to go dig out the MASH DVDs and watch some more.
Before cable, DVDs and VCRs, southern California was the place to live for TV. More channels than most places.
When MASH was syndicated, there was a time that you could watch MASH five times a day. I had an unemployed roommate for a time who did just that.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:23:02pm |
re: #233 Aunty Entity Dragon
I had a massive, week long fight with my brother that played out over facebook, private phone calls and email…all over a fb post I put up about supporting ‘slutwalks’ that focus shame on rapists instead of the victims. My brother was utterly apolplectic that I would post such a thing and ended up publically disowning me as a family member after I took down several stalker-ish posts he left on my fb front page where he cursed at and attacked a female college friend of mine who defended my position.
He just recently started talking to me again, but things will never, ever be the same between us.
I talked to three different counselors about the incident and showed them the emails. Two of them were convinced he had sexually ssauted smeone in the past based on his reaction to e original post.
Ugh.
Honestly, things like this are why I have a policy of absolutely nothing politically related on Facebook, and the majority of family is relegated to a list that I can ignore at will.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:23:27pm |
re: #231 GeneJockey
My wife enjoys it more than I do. Perhaps it’s more of a “Double X” kind of thing. I’m finding a number of the characters annoying, especially the lead. But, if the characters made good choices, they wouldn’t be in prison, would they?
Same thing with Thelma and Louise. I’d have shot Thelma in the first reel, or tossed her out of the car, over the cliff in the final scene.
I find the lead incredibly annoying. Her boy friend is just as bad.
Kate Mulgrew as the cook really, really sucks.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:24:13pm |
re: #234 GeneJockey
Funny thing about MASH - I used to watch it all the time, back when it was still on network. I’d watch 2 or 3 episodes a day, plus the weekly new one. Then came the Series Finale - which I enjoyed - and I found I suddenly lost all desire to see it. This has continued to the present day.
re: #235 wrenchwench
Before cable, DVDs and VCRs, southern California was the place to live for TV. More channels than most places.
When MASH was syndicated, there was a time that you could watch MASH five times a day. I had an unemployed roommate for a time who did just that.
It was only on in syndication by the time I was born but I am a big fan of seasons 4 and 5 in particular.
I own the entire series on DVD.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:25:36pm |
re: #238 klys
It was only on in syndication by the time I was born but I am a big fan of seasons 4 and 5 in particular.
I own the entire series on DVD.
Now I feel really, really old.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:26:15pm |
re: #239 GeneJockey
Now I feel really, really old.
You’re welcome. Anything else I can do for you today?
(Look on the bright side, I’m not 30 yet.)
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 4:26:52pm |
re: #235 wrenchwench
Before cable, DVDs and VCRs, southern California was the place to live for TV. More channels than most places.
When MASH was syndicated, there was a time that you could watch MASH five times a day. I had an unemployed roommate for a time who did just that.
in the early 60s we were subjected to wall to wall i love lucy
the good part was that on the late show, the late late show, and the milkman’s matinee, all the old movies really were old movies
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Timothy Watson Jun 20, 2014 4:27:02pm |
re: #230 klys
Great, now I have the need to go dig out the MASH DVDs and watch some more.
Don’t forget about Boston Legal for Spader!
:)
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 4:27:23pm |
re: #233 Aunty Entity Dragon
I had a massive, week long fight with my brother that played out over facebook, private phone calls and email…all over a fb post I put up about supporting ‘slutwalks’ that focus shame on rapists instead of the victims. My brother was utterly apolplectic that I would post such a thing and ended up publically disowning me as a family member after I took down several stalker-ish posts he left on my fb front page where he cursed at and attacked a female college friend of mine who defended my position.
He just recently started talking to me again, but things will never, ever be the same between us.
I talked to three different counselors about the incident and showed them the emails. Two of them were convinced he had sexually assaulted smeone in the past based on his reaction to e original post.
There’s no doubt in my mind that George Will can imagine himself in the position of a rapist (or at the very least, accused of rape) much more easily than he can imagine himself as a woman doing anything.
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RealityBasedSteve Jun 20, 2014 4:27:29pm |
re: #240 klys
You’re welcome. Anything else I can do for you today?
(Look on the bright side, I’m not 30 yet.)
Yea…. and you better get a high paying job, cuz you’re covering all our Social Security benefits. So what are you doing hanging out on the internetz kid?
RBS
ROFLMAO
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:27:43pm |
re: #237 b_sharp
I find the lead incredibly annoying. Her boy friend is just as bad.
Kate Mulgrew as the cook really, really sucks.
I get frustrated at the characters obviously choosing the wrong thing, or not saying the right thing, but given the tendency in my own family to avoidant behavior (for example), I can’t really say it’s unrealistic.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:27:45pm |
re: #236 klys
Ugh.
Honestly, things like this are why I have a policy of absolutely nothing politically related on Facebook, and the majority of family is relegated to a list that I can ignore at will.
I have scarcely ventured onto fb ever since then. This was last October. Unbelievably, my parent blame me for what happened. Then again, I live 3,000 miles away, and he lives an hour from them and framed things as he saw fit in conversations to them.
I did not forward the emails to family members because I thought it unethical…and because they were so sickening I couldn’t bring myself to show any relatives who would never be able to forget what he says in them.
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Varek Raith Jun 20, 2014 4:28:27pm |
re: #244 RealityBasedSteve
Yea…. and you better get a high paying job, cuz your covering all our Social Security benefits. So what are you doing hanging out on the internetz kid?
RBS
ROFLMAO
Get off my space lawn!
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:29:40pm |
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:29:47pm |
re: #239 GeneJockey
Now I feel really, really old.
I watched them real-time too.
I watched the original Star Trek in real-time.
Hell I watched the Leafs win the Stanley Cup live.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:30:08pm |
re: #240 klys
You’re welcome. Anything else I can do for you today?
(Look on the bright side, I’m not 30 yet.)
Go slap yourself.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:30:08pm |
re: #243 wrenchwench
There’s no doubt in my mind that George Will can imagine himself in the position of a rapist (or at the very least, accused of rape) much more easily than he can imagine himself as a woman doing anything.
When someone wants to parse the boundaries of what is and isn’t rape with great attention to legalistic technicalities combined with complete disregard for the underlying concept of consent, I suspect there is motivation for taking that path.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:30:22pm |
re: #246 Aunty Entity Dragon
I have scarcely ventured onto fb ever since then. This was last October. Unbelievably, my parent blame me for what happened. Then again, I ive 3,000 miles away and he lives an hour from them and framed thngs as he saw fit in conversations to them.
I did not forward the emails to family members because I thought it unethical…and because they were so sickening I couldn’t bring myself to show any relatives who would never be able to forget what he says in them.
I am sorry that you’ve had to deal with that. I can’t imagine how it would feel to have a sibling turn on me like that, over something that should be uncontroversial.
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CuriousLurker Jun 20, 2014 4:31:05pm |
re: #246 Aunty Entity Dragon
It’s scary how you can know someone all your life, grow up around them, and yet still never really know them.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:31:09pm |
re: #251 EPR-radar
When someone wants to parse the boundaries of what is and isn’t rape with great attention to legalistic technicalities combined with complete disregard for the underlying concept of consent, I suspect there is motivation for taking that path.
Quoted for truth.
Parsing definitions should set off every warning bell and red flag you have.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:31:26pm |
re: #246 Aunty Entity Dragon
I have scarcely ventured onto fb ever since then. This was last October. Unbelievably, my parent blame me for what happened. Then again, I ive 3,000 miles away and he lives an hour from them and framed thngs as he saw fit in conversations to them.
I did not forward the emails to family members because I thought it unethical…and because they were so sickening I couldn’t bring myself to show any relatives who would never be able to forget what he says in them.
I have occasionally watched in horrified fascination as someone WILDLY overreacted to things, and wondered what the hell it was that caused such a violent emotional reaction.
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RealityBasedSteve Jun 20, 2014 4:31:32pm |
Had a great week this week. Had some motivated students, good personalities, some really good questions that made me really “THINK” before I popped off an answer. Weeks like this one really make it all fun. They didn’t even mind that I blew off the last chapter all about MVC 2.0 and Silverlight 4. (at least not once I explained that I didn’t see the need to teach them antiquated (and in one case orphaned) technology on a nice friday afternoon.
RBS
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:31:49pm |
re: #246 Aunty Entity Dragon
I have scarcely ventured onto fb ever since then. This was last October. Unbelievably, my parent blame me for what happened. Then again, I ive 3,000 miles away and he lives an hour from them and framed thngs as he saw fit in conversations to them.
I did not forward the emails to family members because I thought it unethical…and because they were so sickening I couldn’t bring myself to show any relatives who would never be able to forget what he says in them.
I have FB expressly so I can ignore it.
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Charles Johnson Jun 20, 2014 4:32:01pm |
Oh yes, I will be photoshopping this. pic.twitter.com/zfSBAhyYRy— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) June 20, 2014
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RealityBasedSteve Jun 20, 2014 4:32:21pm |
re: #248 GeneJockey
“Honey! Have you seen my Flying Car keys?”
I think they are next to the Warp-Hover Round….
RBS
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Varek Raith Jun 20, 2014 4:32:56pm |
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:33:03pm |
re: #249 b_sharp
I watched them real-time too.
I watched the original Star Trek in real-time.
Hell I watched the Leafs win the Stanley Cup live.
Me, too. And WKRP.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:33:30pm |
re: #258 Charles Johnson
Caption contest! My mind is shot on a Friday afternoon, so I all have to get this started is “Stupid, Stupider and Stupidest”
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:34:13pm |
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:34:25pm |
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:34:42pm |
re: #264 b_sharp
WKRP.
Loved the turkey episode.
“As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!”
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 4:34:47pm |
re: #264 b_sharp
WKRP.
Loved the turkey episode.
“As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!”
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Varek Raith Jun 20, 2014 4:34:55pm |
re: #267 klys
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
Same.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:34:56pm |
re: #267 klys
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
Shut
Shut
Shut
……………………
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 4:34:58pm |
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:35:14pm |
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 4:35:18pm |
re: #253 CuriousLurker
It’s scary how you can know someone all your life, grow up around them, and yet still never really know them.
It’s even creepier to see something unpleasant in a four year old that you see all grown up and fleshed out in a forty year old, and be unable to cope with that person at all, even though all the other siblings seem to, although they all say she’s a ‘problem for everyone’.
That rambled a little, didn’t it.
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prairiefire Jun 20, 2014 4:35:23pm |
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:35:30pm |
re: #267 klys
Soon enough we will have Lizards for whom 9/11 happened before they were born.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:35:55pm |
re: #252 klys
I am sorry that you’ve had to deal with that. I can’t imagine how it would feel to have a sibling turn on me like that, over something that should be uncontroversial.
I utterly did not see it coming.
At all.
This is one of the posts he sent me on fb…
I DONT FUCKING CARE IF OTHER {redacted} FAMILY MEMBERS SEE IT. THAT BITCH WAS WRONG AND A FUCKING IDIOT. I DONT CARE IF SHE WAS GANG RAPED BY THE FOOTBALL TEAM, THE FACT IS, IS THAT STATS ON ACTUAL RAPE IS NOT BAD AND SHE WAS WRONG
DONT DEFEND ME, BECAUSE MY ARGUMENT WAS NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE FEMINISTS WANT YOU TO BELIEVE
This is why I will never look at my brother the same way again, even if we are talking once more.
Shocked and heartbroken don’t even begin to describe this.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:36:08pm |
re: #276 EPR-radar
Soon enough we will have Lizards for whom 9/11 happened before they were born.
Nope, they’re all still in elementary school.
See, I can pretend I’m not getting older too.
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Targetpractice Jun 20, 2014 4:36:23pm |
re: #267 klys
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
I barely remember the whole Bosnian/Kosovo mess during the 90s.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:36:46pm |
re: #267 klys
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
Aw, hell. I can make MYSELF feel old, just remembering what all I remember.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 4:36:48pm |
re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord
Here is the Pie of the Week:
Lemon Meringue.
[Embedded image]
Gawd. You’ve really outdone yourself this time. : )
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:37:30pm |
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:38:05pm |
re: #281 Targetpractice
I barely remember the whole Bosnian/Kosovo mess during the 90s.
That’s where Clinton sent planes over, right?
//
My first memories of politics involve the Republicans shutting down the government and then impeaching the president over oral sex.
It’s sad to say they’ve only really gone downhill since then.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:38:06pm |
re: #278 Aunty Entity Dragon
On the other hand, it is better to know about things like this than not, since it may prevent a painful case of misplaced trust.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:38:47pm |
re: #278 Aunty Entity Dragon
I utterly did not see it coming.
At all.
This is one of the post he sent me on fb…
This is why I will never look at my brother the same way again, even if we are talking once more.
Shocked and heartbroken don’t even begin to describe this.
I really, truly hope that someday he realizes how completely wrong he is. But in the meantime, I hope you continue to take care of yourself.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:39:24pm |
In better news, our son is 14 today and I will be going out in a moment to get pizza and then we will watch the first LOTR movie. He actualy wanted a brie and portabella mushroom soup for his bday dinner (our kid is a bit of a foodie, methinks), but we are waiting to do that on monday. :)
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BeachDem Jun 20, 2014 4:39:33pm |
Just saw that the irrepressible (insufferable) Greenwald is supposed to be on Bill Maher tonight. I used to love that show, but this season, he’s had on some of the most repulsive wingers. I can’t stand to watch it anymore.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:39:43pm |
re: #274 wrenchwench
It’s even creepier to see something unpleasant in a four year old that you see all grown up and fleshed out in a forty year old, and be unable to cope with that person at all, even though all the other siblings seem to, although they all say she’s a ‘problem for everyone’.
That rambled a little, didn’t it.
That’s what I meant last week when I said, “You have to love your siblings, but you don’t have to like them.”
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:40:36pm |
re: #285 klys
That’s where Clinton sent planes over, right?
//
My first memories of politics involve the Republicans shutting down the government and then impeaching the president over oral sex.
It’s sad to say they’ve only really gone downhill since then.
My first memories of Republicans were the resignation of Nixon (under bipartisan pressure from Congress) and a few years later the release of the hostages just when Reagan took office.
W’s first term neatly dispatched that favorable first impression of Republicans.
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Interesting Times Jun 20, 2014 4:40:54pm |
re: #278 Aunty Entity Dragon
I utterly did not see it coming.
At all.
This is one of the post he sent me on fb…
This is why I will never look at my brother the same way again, even if we are talking once more.
Shocked and heartbroken don’t even begin to describe this.
Does he have daughters? If so, I don’t even want to think of what he’d say to them if they were ever assaulted…
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:42:51pm |
re: #291 EPR-radar
My first memories of Republicans were the resignation of Nixon (under bipartisan pressure from Congress) and a few years later the release of the hostages just when Reagan took office.
W’s first term neatly dispatched that favorable first impression of Republicans.
Same here. I remember the evacuation of Saigon and seeing the helicopters landing on the carriers and then getting pushed over the side to make room for more. I also remember being annoyed one saturday morning when my cartoons were interrupted by Nixon coming on to do a tv statement…heh!
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:42:51pm |
re: #290 GeneJockey
That’s what I meant last week when I said, “You have to love your siblings, but you don’t have to like them.”
I don’t talk politics with family for some very distinct reasons, mostly relating to the fact that I want to have relationships with people other than my siblings. I don’t talk religion with anyone in my family, full stop.
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wrenchwench Jun 20, 2014 4:43:34pm |
re: #291 EPR-radar
My first memories of Republicans were the resignation of Nixon (under bipartisan pressure from Congress) and a few years later the release of the hostages just when Reagan took office.
W’s first term neatly dispatched that favorable first impression of Republicans.
I watched the Watergate hearings on TV. It was a boring summer at Grandma’s house.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:43:53pm |
re: #292 Interesting Times
Does he have daughters? If so, I don’t even want to think of what he’d say to them if they were ever assaulted…
He has three sons. Our extended family is very, very heavily biased towards male children (three or four to one).
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:44:12pm |
re: #278 Aunty Entity Dragon
I utterly did not see it coming.
At all.
This is one of the post he sent me on fb…
This is why I will never look at my brother the same way again, even if we are talking once more.
Shocked and heartbroken don’t even begin to describe this.
It’s one thing to roll your eyes when a sibling gets involved with something you think is nonsense, but to go THAT apeshit? Such a violent reaction does indeed suggest something he did that bothers him when viewed in that context.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:45:13pm |
re: #297 GeneJockey
It’s one thing to roll your eyes when a sibling gets involved with something you think is nonsense, but to go THAT apeshit? Such a violent reaction does indeed suggest something he did that bothers him when viewed in that context.
Yes.
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Aunty Entity Dragon Jun 20, 2014 4:45:43pm |
Out for tonight. Talk to you all next week :)
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:45:53pm |
re: #294 klys
I don’t talk politics with family for some very distinct reasons, mostly relating to the fact that I want to have relationships with people other than my siblings. I don’t talk religion with anyone in my family, full stop.
I’m lucky - all my family members who are on FB are Liberal. Some annoyingly so, like the brother who’s in the “Obama’s foreign policy is like Bush with a smile” camp.
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 4:47:00pm |
re: #289 BeachDem
Just saw that the irrepressible (insufferable) Greenwald is supposed to be on Bill Maher tonight. I used to love that show, but this season, he’s had on some of the most repulsive wingers. I can’t stand to watch it anymore.
With BM, it will be a love fest tonight. He’s actually a libertarian himself.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:48:09pm |
re: #294 klys
To elaborate just a tiny bit on this, I am a huge daddy’s girl. In the sense that my father is my super-hero and role model in an awful lot of ways.
It kills me to know that he leans pretty heavily Republican. We don’t talk about it. We never will talk about it. But to know that the man I have respected for years and years and years cannot see the anti-women platform and won’t put my rights, my sisters’ rights above lower taxes and “smaller” government …hurts. I absolutely do my best to deal with it and not let it be an issue, and for the most part it’s not - but I can’t pretend it doesn’t exist either.
I hope some other fathers of daughters consider that.
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dog philosopher Jun 20, 2014 4:48:29pm |
re: #267 klys
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
i remember going to kindergarden and feeling totally cool because the year had changed from 1959 to - wow! - 1960
i remember when vaughn meader was really popular and why his career went to hell after nov 22 1963
i remember the first time i heard a beatles tune and how it sounded like no other rock n roll song that had ever been heard in the united states before
i remember the illicit thrill of wearing a shirt that was not actually white with a tie and jacket at prep school
i remember when rock n roll became just rock and how utterly different 1968 was from 1966 and everything that came before
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CuriousLurker Jun 20, 2014 4:48:29pm |
re: #274 wrenchwench
It’s even creepier to see something unpleasant in a four year old that you see all grown up and fleshed out in a forty year old, and be unable to cope with that person at all, even though all the other siblings seem to, although they all say she’s a ‘problem for everyone’.
That rambled a little, didn’t it.
When I was a kid there was a boy a couple of years younger than me whose grandma lived a few doors down from us. He was really creepy at a very young age—I’m talking catching snakes, chopping them up, then putting all the gore in a bucket and showing it to you creepy… asking to see girls & women naked and/or asking to touch them inappropriately creepy… IOW, gonna grow up to be a serial killer creepy. And he always did this stuff with a smile, like it was perfectly normal and he was enjoying it immensely. He made my skin crawl.
He drowned when he was 12. As horribly callous as it sounds, all I can remember feeling is relief upon hearing about his demise.
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Snarknado! Jun 20, 2014 4:48:46pm |
re: #293 Aunty Entity Dragon
Same here. I remember the evacuation of Saigon and seeing the helicopters landing on the carriers and then getting pushed over the side to make room for more. I also remember being annoyed one saturday morning when my cartoons were interrupted by Nixon coming on to do a tv statement…heh!
I remember “Oh, happy day” playing on the radio after the TV statement. Among other things. Whippersnappers.
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BeachDem Jun 20, 2014 4:48:54pm |
re: #301 Justanotherhuman
With BM, it will be a love fest tonight. He’s actually a libertarian himself.
I know—I just can’t bear to think about the drooling that will be going on. GG is on the panel—not an interview guest, so he’ll be pontificating full out.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:49:43pm |
re: #303 dog philosopher
Haha, I think you’re older than my parents.
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GeneJockey Jun 20, 2014 4:52:00pm |
re: #303 dog philosopher
i remember going to kindergarden and feeling totally cool because the year had changed from 1959 to - wow! - 1960
i remember when vaughn meader was really popular and why his career went to hell after nov 22 1963
i remember the first time i heard a beatles tune and how it sounded like no other rock n roll song that had ever been heard in the united states before
i remember the illicit thrill of wearing a shirt that was not actually white with a tie and jacket at prep school
i remember when rock n roll became just rock and how utterly different 1968 was from 1966 and everything that came before
I’m a bit younger than that, but not much.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:53:20pm |
re: #303 dog philosopher
i remember going to kindergarden and feeling totally cool because the year had changed from 1959 to - wow! - 1960
i remember when vaughn meader was really popular and why his career went to hell after nov 22 1963
i remember the first time i heard a beatles tune and how it sounded like no other rock n roll song that had ever been heard in the united states before
i remember the illicit thrill of wearing a shirt that was not actually white with a tie and jacket at prep school
i remember when rock n roll became just rock and how utterly different 1968 was from 1966 and everything that came before
You sound to be a year older than me.
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b_sharp Jun 20, 2014 4:54:18pm |
re: #307 klys
Haha, I think you’re older than my parents.
I don’t think I like you any more.
pout
pout
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:54:26pm |
On a semi-serious note, the ability to pick the brains of all you old farts is one of the things I really appreciate. It’s the kind of thing that one would do through church or bridge club or whatever in the past but for those of us who don’t subscribe to those kind of social things, it’s really wonderful to have a community where it can happen. Thanks. :)
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:55:17pm |
re: #311 klys
On a semi-serious note, the ability to pick the brains of all you old farts is one of the things I really appreciate. It’s the kind of thing that one would do through church or bridge club or whatever in the past but for those of us who don’t subscribe to those kind of social things, it’s really wonderful to have a community where it can happen. Thanks. :)
Let’s work out the terms of this licensing deal. ///
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:55:46pm |
re: #313 EPR-radar
Let’s work out the terms of this licensing deal. ///
Umm… I’ll take pie lessons from VB?
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 4:56:24pm |
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Justanotherhuman Jun 20, 2014 4:57:03pm |
re: #307 klys
Haha, I think you’re older than my parents.
Haha, you’re not much older than my granddaughter—she’ll be 27 Oct 1. Graduated from HS in 2004. No one in my family is as liberal as Grandma, sadly, but my grandson shows promise.
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CuriousLurker Jun 20, 2014 4:57:33pm |
re: #312 klys
But I bring science factoids!
I thought about you and my dad today (he was an avid rock hunter)—went to see a new doctor and he had a display case full of sparkly geodes. ;)
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klys Jun 20, 2014 4:58:51pm |
re: #318 Justanotherhuman
Haha, you’re not much older than my granddaughter—she’ll be 27 Oct 1. Graduated from HS in 2004. No one in my family is as liberal as Grandma, sadly, but my grandson shows promise.
I graduated in 2003, but I’ll share my 29th birthday with our fantastic President.
I used to have an e-mail filter for my grandmother so that I didn’t get all the Fox News forwards 20 times a day. The other set (the ones who are still around) are less bad, but mostly in that they are less vocal about it. Oh well. I corrupted my sisters, I will take what I can get.
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CuriousLurker Jun 20, 2014 5:00:24pm |
re: #320 klys
My son turned 30 last year. *sniffles, wipes tear from ancient, wrinkly face*
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 5:01:39pm |
re: #320 klys
I graduated in 2003, but I’ll share my 29th birthday with our fantastic President.
I used to have an e-mail filter for my grandmother so that I didn’t get all the Fox News forwards 20 times a day. The other set (the ones who are still around) are less bad, but mostly in that they are less vocal about it. Oh well. I corrupted my sisters, I will take what I can get.
Oddly enough, my parents are at least as liberal as I am, and have been more consistent about it.
Apparently, they were GOP activists for the Goldwater(!) campaign, but got disillusioned with him when he came out on the wrong side of the civil rights issues of the time. Years later, Reagan didn’t fool them at all.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Jun 20, 2014 5:01:49pm |
re: #232 Snarknado!
I would use a scissors to cut along the mat, not across it (producing several smaller mats) then pull apart with my fingers and comb the “daughter” mats.
Am I evil?
That’s what I tried on other furry companions in the past.
It never ended well.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 5:01:58pm |
re: #321 CuriousLurker
My son turned 30 last year. *sniffles, wipes tear from ancient, wrinkly face*
I pointed out to my mother that now she is going to have a 29 year old child and cannot pretend to be 29 anymore and got grumped at on the phone.
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klys Jun 20, 2014 5:03:11pm |
re: #324 klys
I pointed out to my mother that now she is going to have a 29 year old child and cannot pretend to be 29 anymore and got grumped at on the phone.
Granted my mother is in better shape than I am so I am allowed to be an occasional obnoxious child.
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EPR-radar Jun 20, 2014 5:11:43pm |
On the subject of family politics, my mom’s parents were big time Republican supporters, especially after they moved to Sun City in AZ in retirement.
I still have a CREEP medal from them somewhere (yes, the 1972 election really did have Committee to RE-Elect the President as an official supporter of the GOP/Nixon).
A noteworthy deviation from this orthodoxy was Grandpa’s disapproval of Pat Buchanan (probably after the infamous culture war speech). Apparently Grandpa said Buchanan was doing Nazi talk. Since Grandpa and Grandma emigrated from Germany because of the Nazis’ growing power, he should know it when he hears it.
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makeitstop Jun 20, 2014 5:30:07pm |
re: #282 GeneJockey
Aw, hell. I can make MYSELF feel old, just remembering what all I remember.
I can remember a lot of things, but I still don’t feel old most of the time. But catch me after a a two hour set in a sweltering performance space in Brooklyn (like I did last night for Intel’s rollout of this new app), and yeah. Might feel a little old at that point.
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Eventual Carrion Jun 20, 2014 5:50:24pm |
re: #321 CuriousLurker
My son turned 30 last year. *sniffles, wipes tear from ancient, wrinkly face*
My oldest just turned 29 on the 10th of this month. And my youngest, the surprise, turns 14 in August.
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Decatur Deb Jun 20, 2014 6:21:10pm |
re: #270 Varek Raith
Same.
re: #267 klys
We can play the make other lizards feel old game.
I hadn’t graduated high school yet when 9/11 happened.
The first election I was eligible to vote in was 2004.
I have no memories of the Berlin Wall falling.
I remember it going up.
(But my wife bests me—she was stationed with her father in Vielsek then, her second tour in FRG.)
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bluebonnetbunny Jun 20, 2014 6:35:36pm |
re: #249 b_sharp
Me too! My whole family went to downtown Toronto for the Stanley Cup parade in 1967. Mahovlich, Horton, Armstrong, Kelly , Keon, Bower, winning over Montreal. Good times! We’ve been waiting a very long time for another Cup, haven’t we?
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De Kolta Chair Jun 20, 2014 10:08:31pm |
Anything that keeps George Will from writing another boring sentence about baseball has to be a good thing.
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J A P Jun 21, 2014 5:53:09am |
re: #46 Justanotherhuman
My mother spent the better part of a decade asking what happened to the “nice young boy” who raped me. She would say things like, “He liked you so much.” The creepy part of it is that he did. Afterward he told me he wanted to marry me.
I think there is something that genuinely doesn’t add up in the minds of many, perhaps most, rapists. They really do believe that “no” means “yes” and so on.
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lostlakehiker Jun 21, 2014 6:30:25pm |
re: #50 Dr Lizardo
No idea which unit, but it looks like a fuel-air bomb, not a missile. Those bombs go by parachute so they’ll descend slowly so as to allow the big clunky sky trucks that carry them to get clear of the area before they go off.
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lostlakehiker Jun 21, 2014 6:43:40pm |
re: #271 b_sharp
Shut
Shut
Shut
……………………
I’ll make you feel young. I remember the Berlin wall going UP. I remember hating it. I remember visiting Berlin and hating it more. Here you had a wall whose purpose was to make a whole part of the world into a maximum security prison. And it had the body count to prove that the guards meant business. And there I was walking on the other side, and the guards were watching me. And they had machine guns. The big kind, with a tripod etc.
Putting aside the more important personal events that rank first, second, etc. in happiest days of life, the day that wall was breached and Berlin threw a liberation party was number 1.
A year or two later, walking under the Brandenburg gate where once the central iconic sector of that wall stood, was right up there too.
Kennedy’s Ich bin…quote may have been a slip up of German grammar, but it was an inspirational moment in history and made its own big contribution to the string of events that led to that day. And I remember that too.
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