Anti-Science Lunacy of the Day: GOP Lawmaker Disproves Climate Change with a Thermometer

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It’s difficult to understand why anyone would ever get the impression that anti-science lunacy runs rampant in the Republican Party.

Louisiana state Rep. Lenar Whitney (R) is accusing liberals, such as former Vice President Al Gore, of advancing “the greatest deception in the history of mankind” — man-made climate change — in a scheme to empower the executive branch and increase taxes.

“A specter is haunting America,” Whitney, who is running for Congress in Louisiana’s 6th Congressional District, warned in a campaign video released Wednesday. “It is perhaps the greatest deception in the history of mankind.”

Mocking Gore’s 2006 Academy Award-winning climate change documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth,” Whitney claimed that the planet “has done nothing but get colder each year since the film’s release.”

“Quite inconveniently for Al Gore, and for the rest of the politicians who continue to advance this delusion, any 10-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man: a thermometer,” Whitney said, citing record sea ice in the Antarctic sector.

More: GOP Lawmaker Says Climate Change Is ‘The Greatest Deception in the History of Mankind’

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260 comments

1 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2014 9:16:49am
“Quite inconveniently for Al Gore, and for the rest of the politicians who continue to advance this delusion, any 10-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man: a thermometer,” Whitney said, citing record sea ice in the Antarctic sector.

Yes, but there is record Ice LOSS in the ARCTIC section.

2 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 1, 2014 9:54:32am

I wish they would go ahead and have the encourage to say what they really WANT to say, and that is “Science is the greatest deception in the history of mankind.”

*except Science directly related to extracting oil out of the ground and science directly related to dropping bombs and killing (brown skinned) people. Evangelicals are solidly behind this sort of science.

3 Bulworth  Jul 1, 2014 11:27:53am

Sorry, OT but just posted this downstairs
————
I have a question about marriage equality bumber stickers…

I have the standard one from HRC with the blue background and the yellow bars in the middle.

However, I sometimes see another sticker that is just three horizontal bars. Often the top and bottom bars are black so that on darker cars only the middle bar shows up. I was wondering if anyone else had seen these and if they are (1) just another version of the marriage equality sticker (2) some kind of anti-marriage equality message or (3) not related to marriage equality at all.

Unfortunately whenever I’ve seen these there haven’t been any other stickers on the car that would help interpret the message, if there is one.

4 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 1, 2014 11:29:56am

CEOs, you’re not priests, you’re not doctors. Politicians, you’re not priests, you’re not scientists. How about listening to the smart people you dumb fucks.

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:30:41am

That woman has the face of a 40-year-old but the neck of an 80-year-old.

6 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 11:30:55am

When the seas rise, go build yourself a fucking Ark, you addlepated nitwit

7 PhillyPretzel  Jul 1, 2014 11:31:02am

I am starting to think we should have a basic knowledge test for those who run for public office.

8 lawhawk  Jul 1, 2014 11:31:03am

I’m fully expecting the climate change denialists to claim it isn’t changing and global warming doesn’t exist because NYC didn’t have a 90 degree day in June. Hasn’t happened often, but it does happen.

What they will ignore is that the climate change and global warming affects not just a specific location on the planet, but the whole thing - and global temps keep showing a rise. CO2 levels continue to rise.

And any effort to make the environment cleaner and fewer emissions is met with abject horror from the right claiming that it will destroy the economy (even though those same emissions send folks to the hospital and undermine the economy by making it toxic to drink water, breath the air, or come in contact with the soil in some parts of the country).

9 Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2014 11:33:54am

Shhhhhh…..

Be vewy vewy quiet!

More Free rides here

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2014 11:35:21am

Reminds me of the Simpsons episode with the Comet where at the end Moe recommends burning down the Observatory so “this never happens again”.

11 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 1, 2014 11:36:15am

re: #8 lawhawk

I’m fully expecting the climate change denialists to claim it isn’t changing and global warming doesn’t exist because NYC didn’t have a 90 degree day in June. Hasn’t happened often, but it does happen.

We had a ton of unseasonably hot days in May and even April, too. Those cherries are getting harder and harder to pick.

12 jaunte  Jul 1, 2014 11:36:16am
Whitney is the first woman to represent Terrebonne in the legislature and the first Republican to hold the District 53 seat.

“…Whitney graduated from Vanderbilt High School in Houma and obtained an associate’s degree in business from Nicholls State University* in Thibodaux, Louisiana.”
en.wikipedia.org

*The school is sometimes referred to as “Our Harvard on the Bayou;” the university bookstore even sells shirts sporting this light-hearted nickname. The Quality Enhancement Plan (QEP) at Nicholls—which focuses on critical thinking—has the motto “L’esprit engagé,” which means “the engaged mind.”
en.wikipedia.org

Probably not renowned for science education.

13 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 11:36:34am

From a nutball who think BC is abortion

14 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 11:38:16am

re: #8 lawhawk

I’m fully expecting the climate change denialists to claim it isn’t changing and global warming doesn’t exist because NYC didn’t have a 90 degree day in June. Hasn’t happened often, but it does happen.

What they will ignore is that the climate change and global warming affects not just a specific location on the planet, but the whole thing - and global temps keep showing a rise. CO2 levels continue to rise.

And any effort to make the environment cleaner and fewer emissions is met with abject horror from the right claiming that it will destroy the economy (even though those same emissions send folks to the hospital and undermine the economy by making it toxic to drink water, breath the air, or come in contact with the soil in some parts of the country).

Pity it can’t be arranged for only the denialists to get malaria and the other diseases as they shift north with the warmer climate.
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15 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 11:38:51am

Oh. It’s actually the National Debt that’s apocalyptic. So we should cripple the economies of the Middle East. Why didn’t I think of that.

16 Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2014 11:40:27am

re: #13 Kragar

Twitter profile:

Just an average guy who carries a Glock 30.

He seems nice.

17 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 11:41:17am

Been seeing articles about hippos being an issue in Columbia. There are examples of transplanted animals and plants becoming pests and affecting local ecology. This appears to be one of the larger examples.

18 A Mom Anon  Jul 1, 2014 11:42:05am

So can we say the inmates are running the asylum yet?

I cannot bear much more stupid with a hate propellant topped with fuck up sprinkles. Grrr.

19 lawhawk  Jul 1, 2014 11:42:33am

re: #14 Feline Fearless Leader

Much of the South, well, most of the East Coast, up through DC would become malaria/tropical disease ridden. And if it’s not malaria, it could be any number of other tropical type diseases getting a foothold.

Chikungunya is another one that bears watching.

20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 11:42:56am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Twitter profile:

He seems nice.

Frankly, I have nothing against guns or normal folks who have them (like you) or responsible gun enthusiasts (like our own William Barnett-Lewis), but gun fetishists… they’re just pitiful.

21 CuriousLurker  Jul 1, 2014 11:46:17am

re: #20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Frankly, I have nothing against guns or normal folks who have them (like you) or responsible gun enthusiasts (like our own William Barnett-Lewis), but gun fetishists… they’re just pitiful.

THIS. If you feel the need to mention you carry a Glock 30 (or any other weapon) in your freaking Twitter profile, then you have serious issues and need to see a mental health professional.

22 Teukka  Jul 1, 2014 11:46:26am

Can I have prayers, good thoughts, utilization of various good luck charms etc. for 2:50-ish AM PDT on the 2nd? NASA’s making another attempt at getting the OCO-2 (Orbiting Carbon Observatory #2) into orbit, it got scrubbed today because some launchpad equipment didn’t work as it should.

For more information, see NASA’s Orbiting Carbon Observatory 2 (OCO-2) page.

23 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:46:43am

re: #20 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Frankly, I have nothing against guns or normal folks who have them (like you) or responsible gun enthusiasts (like our own William Barnett-Lewis), but gun fetishists… they’re just pitiful.

Especially the ones who think this is so kewl:

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:47:34am

NO YOU DUMBSHIT:

25 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 11:47:47am

re: #21 CuriousLurker

THIS. If you feel the need to mention you carry a Glock 30 (or any other weapon) in your freaking Twitter profile, then you have serious issues and need to see a mental health professional.

He could have just as easily mentioned his dick length with as much sense. Oh wait, there’s nothing to be proud of on that front /

26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 1, 2014 11:47:57am

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

Especially the ones who think this is so kewl:

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When running away is not an option BECAUSE GUNS ARE FREAKIN’ EVERYWHERE!!!

27 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 11:49:35am
28 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:49:59am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When running away is not an option BECAUSE GUNS ARE FREAKIN’ EVERYWHERE!!!

I don’t know why they couldn’t just drive away in that freaking big truck.

29 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 11:50:14am

re: #19 lawhawk

Much of the South, well, most of the East Coast, up through DC would become malaria/tropical disease ridden. And if it’s not malaria, it could be any number of other tropical type diseases getting a foothold.

Chikungunya is another one that bears watching.

Used to be annual yellow fever epidemics in a number of US cities until the worked out it was mosquito-borne and also dependent on a reservoir of infected animals for the mosquitoes to transmit the disease between.

30 S'latch  Jul 1, 2014 11:50:45am

I wonder if anyone could count the bogus claims that Lenar Whitney crammed into that 4 minute 45 second video.

31 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 11:50:57am

re: #28 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t know why they couldn’t just drive away in that freaking big truck.

Prolly because in the world where this is “real” the big truck will eatcha.

32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 1, 2014 11:51:10am

re: #27 Lidane

Fox News host: Obama’s absence at the World Cup is “controversial”

Let us just imagine he was there…Fox news reports that Obama abandons America for a decadent Euroweenie sport…

33 GunstarGreen  Jul 1, 2014 11:52:08am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

NO YOU DUMBSHIT:

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Notice how he treats political ideology as being equivalent to a genetic trait. “Conservatives” are “Outbreeding”, as if being to the right on the political spectrum was the same thing as being a sub-species of human. It assumes, as so much of Right-wing ideology does, an unquestioning obedience to an arbitrary authority figure (one’s parents) such that dissent is an unthinkable non-option. Conservatives are not people who have arrived at rational conclusions based on observations and logic, they are “bred”. Like dogs.

Very telling.

34 Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2014 11:52:27am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

NO YOU DUMBSHIT:

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Oh Eric the brain dead, you breeder you.

35 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 11:52:39am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

NO YOU DUMBSHIT:

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36 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 11:52:51am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Let us just imagine he was there…Fox news reports that Obama abandons America for a decadent Euroweenie sport…

Or that he went there to grandstand and steal attention from the hard-working USA team. (That is still playing a Euroweenie sport.)

(And attempting to deflect attention from BENGHAZI as well. Of course.)

37 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 11:53:00am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Let us just imagine he was there…Fox news reports that Obama abandons America for a decadent Euroweenie sport…

Obummer is spending $500 trillion a day to travel! Eleventy!

38 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:53:19am

And Conservatives still don’t know how that “healthcare as part of an employee’s compensation package” thing works.

39 makeitstop  Jul 1, 2014 11:53:45am

re: #27 Lidane

Fox News host: Obama’s absence at the World Cup is “controversial”

And if he did go, they’d all be bitching about jet fuel and Secret Service pay and ‘vacations.’ Imbeciles.

40 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:54:13am

re: #35 Gus

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OH NOES TEEN HUNTRESS CAN HAS TEH GUNZ, SHE CANS SHOOT!!!!

41 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 11:54:28am

re: #35 Gus

Good morning. (?)

42 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 11:55:16am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

NO YOU DUMBSHIT:

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43 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 11:55:38am

re: #41 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Good morning. (?)

[Lurch moan]

Good afternoon.

44 geoffm33  Jul 1, 2014 11:56:18am

Posted this downstairs, but you all left :(
—————————————-

Not sure how many of you are fans of poker, the World Series of Poker is going on right now in Vegas. Well, this guy was in the “Big One” million dollar buyin (he won his way in from a $25,000 buyin satellite event).

He and another player raised and re-raised each other until they were both all-in before the flop. When they flipped their cards over, they both had pocket aces. No biggie right? Well….

45 S'latch  Jul 1, 2014 11:56:43am

The earth has gotten colder since 2006? Wow.

46 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:57:17am

WTF

47 Romantic Heretic  Jul 1, 2014 11:58:48am

No, Ms. Whitney. The greatest deception in the history of mankind is that barbarians like you and your fellow teahadis claim that you are fit for public office.

48 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 11:59:34am

Whoa I just looked at GimmeGowdy’s timeline. What a bunch of bugfuck insane toxic Derp.

49 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 1, 2014 12:01:15pm

My freezer says it’s 0°. My thermometer trumps his thermometer.

50 Bulworth  Jul 1, 2014 12:01:19pm

Getting ready to leave work early, taking the long-haired FOL to be groomed. This should go well…

51 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 12:02:07pm

re: #44 geoffm33

Is there a video?

52 S'latch  Jul 1, 2014 12:03:07pm

Polar bears are being forced out of their habitat because of overpopulation? Really?

53 Bulworth  Jul 1, 2014 12:03:07pm

re:
#38

And Erick son of Erick still thinks it gets rid of all the BC in the nation, ends SSM, and Christianizes all our public schools.

54 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 12:04:30pm

These morons don’t just want freedom to oppress, they want to destroy the planet as well.

It’s 93 deg here and 67% (or better) humidity and feels like a damned sauna outside, as a trip to the store just revealed.

I’m still debating whether or not to get freon in my car a/c and get it going. Or just use the sun roof and windows for cross ventilation. I mean, if I’m going to be using something that’s bad for the environment, I’d rather it be inside the apt where it’s not moving. Besides, I keep the thermo on 77 and it’s quite tolerable in here (when I’m watching TV I need a throw), and only a $99 elec bill for most of June.

First world problems, doncha know.

55 Kilroy01  Jul 1, 2014 12:05:56pm

This is great stuff. I could make a career out of this gal! You see how clever her part is? How it doesn’t require a shred of proof? Most paranoid delusions are intricate, but this is brilliant!

56 Bulworth  Jul 1, 2014 12:07:12pm

re:
#55

I see what you did there…..

57 geoffm33  Jul 1, 2014 12:07:47pm

re: #51 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Is there a video?

I don’t think so, at least not posted yet. Such a bad beat. Worse then Matt Affleck/Jonathan Duhamel (which I witnessed in person).

Youtube Video

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 12:08:33pm

re: #48 Pie-onist Overlord

Parked this tweet on your Detroit water page:

59 A Mom Anon  Jul 1, 2014 12:11:01pm

re: #21 CuriousLurker

And maybe ought to NOT HAVE A GUN. Grr. I find myself Grrrrring a lot these days, mostly at assholes. And today is the first day of The Carry Your Gun Lovingly Around Everyplace in Georgia- Because Hey Why Not? Law, so I’m SO excited about that. It should make trips to the park and out for dinner just a hoot. Retrograde nitwits.

Alrighty Lizards, I popped in to say hi and I have to run again. Lots of outdoor work and The No Longer a Teenager is home for the week so my interwebs time is confined to a drink and cool off breaks before heading back out to the massive clean up madness outside.

60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 12:11:58pm

re: #57 geoffm33

WTF! Hehehe.

61 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 12:14:13pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

Parked this tweet on your Detroit water page:

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Is that asshole still there?

62 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 1, 2014 12:14:18pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

My freezer says it’s 0°. My thermometer trumps his thermometer.

Hobby Lobby sincerely believes the planet is cooling.

63 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 12:14:34pm

I hate summer. It won’t get below 80 here until around midnight, and will be 97 tomorrow. Maybe t-storms, maybe not, if it follows the pattern lately.

And July is just getting started.

64 OhNoZombies!  Jul 1, 2014 12:14:51pm

These people are just un observant.
If we are using weather as a gauge, the extremes are like nothing I’ve ever seen, and I haven’t even hit 40 yet.
Winter temps in Ohio hit -40 including the wind chill, and schools were closed for most of January.
Now, we have sub tropical, weather: 90+ degree days with 70 % humidity hanging around just before the torrential monsoons start.
As I type right now, the thunder starts booming…

65 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 1, 2014 12:15:56pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but there is record Ice LOSS in the ARCTIC section.

How is the land ice doing in Antarctica? They do know Antarctica is a continent, right?

66 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 12:16:18pm

re: #61 Pie-onist Overlord

Is that asshole still there?

nope

67 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 12:16:42pm

HEY LIZARDS!!

Happy Canada’s birthday.

Canada is now officially older than me.

Yee Haw!

68 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 12:17:57pm

Ha!

69 lawhawk  Jul 1, 2014 12:18:23pm

re: #57 geoffm33

Ouch. That’s going to leave a mark.

I’ll stick to the stock market. Bought GPRO a few days ago when it went public. Made a tidy profit, and got out yesterday. Of course, it’s up another 20%+ since I sold it.

Woulda, coulda, but didn’t.

70 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 12:18:59pm

re: #67 b_sharp

Youtube Video

71 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 12:19:00pm

re: #65 BlueSpotinAL

How is the land ice doing in Antarctica? They do know Antarctica is a continent, right?

Moving toward the sea at an increased rate.

The loons crow about area covered, not volume though so their arguments are about single year ice, not older ice.

Same for the Arctic.

72 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 12:19:05pm

My Journalist Simulator Tweet made Gawker.

73 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 12:20:43pm

re: #68 Gus

Ha!

You’re famous!

74 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 12:21:34pm

re: #72 Gus

“Tinfoil hatters—both pro- and anti-Greenwald—let loose.”

Weak mbf is weak.

75 Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2014 12:21:41pm

re: #68 Gus

Ha!

I believe he called you a “tinfoil hatter…”

76 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 12:22:29pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

I believe he called you a “tinfoil hatter…”

Yes. Because joking about Greenwald makes me a tinfoil hater.

77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 12:22:55pm

re: #68 Gus

Ha!

Famous!

78 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 12:23:12pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

I believe he called you a “tinfoil hatter…”

I think Gus as more of having a duraluminum coating.
;)

79 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 12:23:33pm

re: #76 Gus

Yes. Because joking about Greenwald makes me a tinfoil hater.

The author of the article doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of simple English words.

80 Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2014 12:23:33pm

Wait, Intercept editor John Cook is “on vacation?”

Really? Don’t you have to actually do some work first before you get to go on vacation?

Freaking unreal. They’re soaking Omidyar for all he’s worth.

81 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 12:23:33pm

re: #76 Gus

Yes. Because joking about Greenwald makes me a tinfoil hater.

Dude, it’s aluminum foil now.

82 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 12:23:49pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

I believe he called you a “tinfoil hatter…”

The origin of that started with PUG TORNADO. It was late and my leg was aching. So I started making Simulater Photoshop and it struck me to make one with Greenwald chiding him on on the journalist thing.

83 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 12:25:54pm
84 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 12:26:31pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

I believe he called you a “tinfoil hatter…”

And get a load of this—when did he start, about 3 mos ago and already needs a break?

“Intercept editor John Cook, who formerly edited Gawker dot com, didn’t respond to an emailed request for comment today (he’s on vacation)…”

85 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 12:27:05pm

Did Greenwald actually say that they were saving the best for last?

That pretty much shows that he’s doing it for the notoriety not for people’s freedom.

86 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 12:27:06pm

re: #82 Gus

The origin of that started with PUG TORNADO. It was late and my leg was aching. So I started making Simulater Photoshop and it struck me to make one with Greenwald chiding him on on the journalist thing.

Thank you for not making a Greenwald tornado.

87 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 12:27:52pm

re: #82 Gus

The origin of that started with PUG TORNADO. It was late and my leg was aching. So I started making Simulater Photoshop and it struck me to make one with Greenwald chiding him on on the journalist thing.

Can we cut that leg off and replace it with a Terminator leg?

88 nsmith25  Jul 1, 2014 12:28:06pm

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

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And God said “Today was a Good Day”

89 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 12:29:13pm

Gabrielle commented:

“No new postings since June 18th?? When that happens to my mother’s facebook, I call to make sure she’s still alive.”

90 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 12:29:20pm

re: #84 Justanotherhuman

And get a load of this—when did he start, about 3 mos ago and already needs a break?

“Intercept editor John Cook, who formerly edited Gawker dot com, didn’t respond to an emailed request for comment today (he’s on vacation)…”

Youtube Video

91 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 12:30:49pm

I’ll just assume now that my activity WRT Greenwald is intimidating to the manarchists.

92 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 12:31:44pm

Oh, and that Simulator pic wasn’t even about his latest scoop. Like I said. It started with that PUG. Derp. I think they’re the ones wearing the tinfoil.

93 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 12:32:58pm
94 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 12:35:12pm

dick swinging contest loser:

95 Tigger2  Jul 1, 2014 12:37:17pm

re: #27 Lidane

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If Obama went to the World Cup then the knuckledraggers would be screaming Obama is off watching a game while America burns.

96 Mike Lamb  Jul 1, 2014 12:37:28pm

re: #88 nsmith25

And God said “Today was a Good Day”

Well, of course, Broun didn’t mean there. Everywhere but there.

97 geoffm33  Jul 1, 2014 12:39:35pm

Have the wingnuts gone ballistic over the Google Doodle yet?

Football vs Football

98 lawhawk  Jul 1, 2014 12:40:42pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

Wait, Intercept editor John Cook is “on vacation?”

Really? Don’t you have to actually do some work first before you get to go on vacation?

Freaking unreal. They’re soaking Omidyar for all he’s worth.

And it’s been how many weeks since Greenwald threatened to name names - and he’s yet to name a single one. You mean to tell me that he couldn’t find a name, even one, of an American citizen among all those Snowden docs who got NSA treatment that somehow violated US law?

I’m shocked. Shocked.

We go from an out of control NSA to realizing that the only one out of control is Greenwald with hyperbolic and bellicose statements about how the NSA is running amok and must be constrained over its rampant and unfettered spying on US citizens (which is simply not true, despite his protestations to the contrary).

99 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 12:40:54pm
100 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 12:42:30pm

And here I thought my 39 incher was huge, even tho I’m usually sitting 10 ft away. But 100 inch TVs?

From big to giant: Behemoth TVs start to take off

bigstory.ap.org

Ah, I see, trimming the food budget seems to be a popular way to afford them.

101 Tigger2  Jul 1, 2014 12:44:44pm

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

And here I thought my 39 incher was huge, even tho I’m usually sitting 10 ft away. But 100 inch TVs?

From big to giant: Behemoth TVs start to take off

bigstory.ap.org

Ah, I see, trimming the food budget seems to be a popular way to afford them.

Mine is only 50 inch guess I need to upgrade. lol

102 Teukka  Jul 1, 2014 12:44:51pm

re: #54 Justanotherhuman

These morons don’t just want freedom to oppress, they want to destroy the planet as well.

It’s 93 deg here and 67% (or better) humidity and feels like a damned sauna outside, as a trip to the store just revealed.

I’m still debating whether or not to get freon in my car a/c and get it going. Or just use the sun roof and windows for cross ventilation. I mean, if I’m going to be using something that’s bad for the environment, I’d rather it be inside the apt where it’s not moving. Besides, I keep the thermo on 77 and it’s quite tolerable in here (when I’m watching TV I need a throw), and only a $99 elec bill for most of June.

First world problems, doncha know.

I had to put solar film (blocks 99% UV, 45% Visible, 10% IR) on all my windows this year. Why? Because without it, the temperature in my flat easily goes up to 35°C/95°F from the sunlight. When I moved here 20 years ago, I only had occational days, maybe weeks when the temps would spike that bad.

Last year? Things had escalated to the extent that I had to put the oscillating fan on and leave at least 3 windows open in the flat in mid-May. I didn’t shut the fan off or close the windows (bar torrential downpours) until September. I hope that the film will work.

Now, I live in downtown Stockholm, 59°19’46”N 18°04’07”E. I have a 6-lane road right outside the window (live on the 4th floor thankfully). The noise and the dust issue is minor compared with the heat problem. And I’m not the only one with the issue, not in the building, not in the city or even the Stockholm county area.

<rant>
And still the right wingers are harping on HURR! DURR! gloBULL warning is a liBULLar conspiracy to stifle free enterprise, the scientists are all on the take. etc. etc. etc. And US rightwingers are exporting that mindless incoherent BULLSHIT to rightwingers here (yes, I’m beginning to hear the same arguments from conservo’s this side of the pond, not only on climate issues but other issues as well).

And I haven’t even mentioned winters yet. They’re major league fucked up (pardon my French) as well. Something is amiss —BIG TIME— with the climate and it needs our motherfucking attention motherfucking NOW (again, pardon my French).

These retrobulbarly evacuated individuals are playing not only with the lives of their electorate, but the lives of many on this planet we call home. The only home we got.

If we fuck this place up (pardon the French again), we might well not get a second chance. As in GAME OVER. I’ve seen preliminary worst-case scenarios that raise that possibility. Not involving nuclear exchange, but simply the cumulative effects of famine, disease, conventional war and climate mayhem.
</rant>

*Phew* glad to get that load off my tounge.

*sits in corner and awaits reaction*

103 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 12:45:34pm

ICYMI

104 Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2014 12:48:18pm

re: #103 Kragar

ICYMI

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LOLOLOL

That person has his head so far up his ass, he can probably see out his navel.

105 b.d.  Jul 1, 2014 12:48:50pm

From the Gawker comment section:

No new postings since June 18th?? When that happens to my mother’s facebook, I call to make sure she’s still alive.

106 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 12:49:00pm
107 bratwurst  Jul 1, 2014 12:51:09pm
108 Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2014 12:51:14pm
109 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 12:51:25pm
110 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 12:53:16pm
111 Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2014 12:53:18pm
112 Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2014 12:54:00pm
113 Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2014 12:54:13pm

The kid escorts are just the best.

114 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 12:54:26pm

re: #107 bratwurst

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I’m sympathetic to people being sad that their kids/the next generation don’t like the same sports as them. Sport can be a great inter-generational bonding device, and to be told that your favorite pastime is boring/passe/whatever is not nice.

The whole moral decline/soccer is gay thing is something else though. That’s just pathetic.

115 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 12:54:55pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

116 b.d.  Jul 1, 2014 12:55:14pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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He’s been at his job for 3 months and not doin’ stuff is hard work!

117 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 12:55:25pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Wasn’t The Intercept that $250 million dudebro vanity press?

I’ll write one article a month for that kind of cash. Shit, I might even strain myself and write two or three posts. I’m a hard worker like that. :p

118 lawhawk  Jul 1, 2014 12:55:35pm

re: #116 b.d.

It’s harshing on his mellow.

119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 1, 2014 12:56:07pm

re: #114 iossarian

I’m sympathetic to people being sad that their kids/the next generation don’t like the same sports as them. Sport can be a great inter-generational bonding device, and to be told that your favorite pastime is boring/passe/whatever is not nice.

The whole moral decline/soccer is gay thing is something else though. That’s just pathetic.

I have a rectal thermometer reading to prove it!

120 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 12:57:07pm

re: #101 Tigger2

Mine is only 50 inch guess I need to upgrade. lol

Same here.

I’m starting to feel outdated.

121 b.d.  Jul 1, 2014 12:57:26pm

8 articles published total* at FirstLook since it was announced that Cook was coming on board.

Flat worn out.

*Under news, Greenwald has posted some of his own stuff and various articles have been put up

122 Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2014 12:57:40pm

re: #117 Lidane

Wasn’t The Intercept that $250 million dudebro vanity press?

I’ll write one article a month for that kind of cash. Shit, I might even strain myself and write two or three posts. I’m a hard worker like that. :p

Forget where, but I’ve seen a semi-serious suggestion that Omidyar is the Good Guy, deliberately hobbling the dudebros with his do-nothing harem.

123 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 12:58:11pm
124 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 12:58:26pm

re: #101 Tigger2

Mine is only 50 inch guess I need to upgrade. lol

*panics*

*reads original comment*

*relaxes*

125 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 12:58:46pm

re: #121 b.d.

8 articles published total at FirstLook since it was announced that Cook was coming on board.

Flat worn out.

Those are hand-carved fonts!

126 Tigger2  Jul 1, 2014 12:58:56pm

re: #124 iossarian

*panics*

*reads original comment*

*relaxes*

Hahaha

127 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 1:00:59pm

re: #126 Tigger2

Hahaha

Try the veal etc.

128 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 1:02:59pm

re: #121 b.d.

8 articles published total at FirstLook since it was announced that Cook was coming on board.

Flat worn out.

I’m looking forward to their in depth analysis on the perfect ratio of cocaine to hooker’s ass they plan to release in the next few weeks

129 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 1:04:13pm
130 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 1:04:15pm
131 b.d.  Jul 1, 2014 1:06:22pm

3 months on, 3 months off.

Working at FirstLook is kind of like working on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

132 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 1:07:30pm

re: #102 Teukka

I had to put solar film (blocks 99% UV, 45% Visible, 10% IR) on all my windows this year. Why? Because without it, the temperature in my flat easily goes up to 35°C/95°F from the sunlight. When I moved here 20 years ago, I only had occational days, maybe weeks when the temps would spike that bad.

Last year? Things had escalated to the extent that I had to put the oscillating fan on and leave at least 3 windows open in the flat in mid-May. I didn’t shut the fan off or close the windows (bar torrential downpours) until September. I hope that the film will work.

Now, I live in downtown Stockholm, 59°19’46”N 18°04’07”E. I have a 6-lane road right outside the window (live on the 4th floor thankfully). The noise and the dust issue is minor compared with the heat problem. And I’m not the only one with the issue, not in the building, not in the city or even the Stockholm county area.

<rant>
And still the right wingers are harping on HURR! DURR! gloBULL warning is a liBULLar conspiracy to stifle free enterprise, the scientists are all on the take. etc. etc. etc. And US rightwingers are exporting that mindless incoherent BULLSHIT to rightwingers here (yes, I’m beginning to hear the same arguments from conservo’s this side of the pond, not only on climate issues but other issues as well).

And I haven’t even mentioned winters yet. They’re major league fucked up (pardon my French) as well. Something is amiss —BIG TIME— with the climate and it needs our motherfucking attention motherfucking NOW (again, pardon my French).

These retrobulbarly evacuated individuals are playing not only with the lives of their electorate, but the lives of many on this planet we call home. The only home we got.

If we fuck this place up (pardon the French again), we might well not get a second chance. As in GAME OVER. I’ve seen preliminary worst-case scenarios that raise that possibility. Not involving nuclear exchange, but simply the cumulative effects of famine, disease, conventional war and climate mayhem.
</rant>

*Phew* glad to get that load off my tounge.

*sits in corner and awaits reaction*

Fuck ‘em. We need strict conservation measures now. But how we’ll get them in the US, or when, if ever, is debatable. It’s going to take outages, floods, worse weather more than likely. Even then, there will be those who have the attitude that if they have the money, they’ll do as they please.

I usually keep the plantation blinds closed so no direct sun enters the apt, and the exterior LR wall with the front door is solid, with a window only on the kitchen (a Pullman type), and another on the opposite end. There’s also a sliding glass door on that end, too, but it gets morning sun and not the hot, direct sun of the afternoon which the solid wall blocks. Around noon, the sun has gone over the apt, so it’s bright in the am, darker in the pm but I leave an 11 watt bulb on in the LR to brighten it up more since I don’t leave the front door open to the sun.

133 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 1:07:58pm

re: #131 b.d.

3 months on, 3 months off.

Working at FirstLook is kind of like working on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

You wonder when its going to explode and goes down with all hands?

134 Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2014 1:08:21pm
135 bubba zanetti  Jul 1, 2014 1:09:38pm
136 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 1:10:18pm

re: #132 Justanotherhuman

Since I have south and west exposures the A/C is on in the apartment and all the blinds are down - barring those raised a foot or two to allow the planters to get sun and allow Feline Overlord access for basking and observation purposes.

137 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 1:10:36pm
138 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 1:12:54pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

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What a fucking fall from his political career (well, it was what it was).

Libertarians poison everything.

139 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 1:13:37pm

WORST. SOCIALIST. EVAR.

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 1:17:31pm

re: #116 b.d.

He’s been at his job for 3 months and not doin’ stuff is hard work!

Hey, Pierre is a flowing fountain of money!

141 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 1:19:01pm

More agita for the RWNJs:

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 1:19:12pm

I missed this news from yesterday:

143 CuriousLurker  Jul 1, 2014 1:20:00pm

OT: Interestingly, of all the countries she sent her photo to, it appears that the Photoshop expert in the Philippines is the only one who thought the woman in the video was beautiful in her natural state. All the others changed something, even if it was just subtly lightening/darkening her skin tone, making her skin look smoother, adding color to her cheeks, etc. (Yes, I paused it on the original photo in one tab, then played it in another tab.)

Youtube Video

144 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 1:21:32pm
145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 1:22:23pm

More on Kentucky’s SSM ruling this morning:

Kentucky had argued that legalizing gay marriage would harm the state’s birth rate. “These arguments are not those of serious people,” wrote US district judge John Heyburn. “Though it seems almost unnecessary to explain, here are the reasons why.

“Even assuming the state has a legitimate interest in promoting procreation, the Court fails to see, and Defendant never explains, how the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage has any effect whatsoever on procreation among heterosexual spouses. Excluding same-sex couples from marriage does not change the number of heterosexual couples who choose to get married, the number who choose to have children, or the number of children they have.

“The state’s attempts to connect the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage to its interest in economic stability and in ‘ensuring humanity’s continued existence’ are at best illogical and even bewildering…The Court can think of no other conceivable legitimate reason for Kentucky’s laws excluding same-sex couples from marriage.”

full ruling at the MJ link.

146 dog philosopher  Jul 1, 2014 1:22:46pm

any 10-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man: a thermometer

inconveniently, it needs to be removed from your ass first

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 1:23:28pm

I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

148 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 1:25:54pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

“Any questions?”

“Actually, yes: how do you feel about your party’s collapsing support among white women?”

149 KerFuFFler  Jul 1, 2014 1:27:03pm

It really pisses me off that she (Lenar Whitney in the posted video) refers to the hacked data and communications from the East Anglia research facility. She says that the hacked information proves incontrovertibly that the scientists were falsifying research.

That was what was alleged in 2009 when the story first broke because scientists used terms like “data manipulations” which the conspiracy-minded folk took to be admissions of chicanery. Several different independent scientific bodies have looked carefully at the data, the statistical methods and analytic models employed by the East Anglia scientists and have found no indications of misrepresentation or deception———but still the knuckle draggers continue to list this among scandals alongside Benghazi11!, the IRS, Fast and Furious and whatever else.

Once they fall for something it is TRUE forever. One can practically imagine them still believing in the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and of course, Santa Claus.

150 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 1:27:12pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

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151 Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2014 1:27:17pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

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Cries out for somebody to grab a picture of a pig fetus at a similar level of development and ask J. Random Wingnut to identify what species it belongs to.

152 GunstarGreen  Jul 1, 2014 1:27:23pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

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“Yes, a couple of questions actually. Where’s the rest of the series? The one where you show that fetus developing into a child, and then an adolescent, and then an adult, all of them labelled “Human” right up to the point where the “Human” is on an execution table in Texas and you don’t have any problem with that?”

153 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 1:29:50pm
154 Tigger2  Jul 1, 2014 1:30:46pm

re: #152 GunstarGreen

“Yes, a couple of questions actually. Where’s the rest of the series? The one where you show that fetus developing into a child, and then an adolescent, and then an adult, all of them labelled “Human” right up to the point where the “Human” is on an execution table in Texas and you don’t have any problem with that?”

Also the question of why do you want to cut funding to any program that is meant to feed them when they are hungry.

155 dog philosopher  Jul 1, 2014 1:31:48pm

clearly it has yet to be proven in court whether or not biologically individual human animals qualify as people under the law and so have the same rights as corporations

156 Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2014 1:32:23pm

“Questions? Yes, where do corporations fall on that chart? When do they become humans?”

157 KerFuFFler  Jul 1, 2014 1:35:35pm

re: #156 Targetpractice

“Questions? Yes, where do corporations fall on that chart? When do they become humans?”

Seriously wanted to upding that repeatedly!

158 Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2014 1:36:10pm

“Another question: If the first item on your list gets flushed out in the next menstrual cycle, as millions are every day, do they still qualify as human? Do we need to count each as a miscarriage?”

159 Gus  Jul 1, 2014 1:36:14pm
160 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 1:36:23pm
161 goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2014 1:37:36pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

OT: Interestingly, of all the countries she sent her photo to, it appears that the Photoshop expert in the Philippines is the only one who thought the woman in the video was beautiful in her natural state. All the others changed something, even if it was just subtly lightening/darkening her skin tone, making her skin look smoother, adding color to her cheeks, etc. (Yes, I paused it on the original photo in one tab, then played it in another tab.)

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The Philippine version does have what looks like a very subtle smart sharpening or unsharp mask adjustment, it appears to be a single global adjustment and doesn’t impact skin tone. It’s apparent when you overlay the two versions in Photoshop and switch the top layer off and on.

162 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 1, 2014 1:38:58pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

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When did anyone ever say none of those were human?

163 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 1:40:12pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

Cries out for somebody to grab a picture of a pig fetus at a similar level of development and ask J. Random Wingnut to identify what species it belongs to.

I was thinking of making a Photoshop of random stock images of adolescent & adult female human beings at various ages from 12-90 and labeling them “HUMAN” do you think wingnuts would get it?

164 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 1, 2014 1:41:50pm

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

I was thinking of making a Photoshop of random stock images of adolescent & adult female human beings at various ages from 12-90 and labeling them “HUMAN” do you think wingnuts would get it?

No. It would go “whoosh” right over their heads.

165 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 1:41:52pm
166 goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2014 1:47:53pm

re: #162 Second Class Citizen

When did anyone ever say none of those were human?

It’s the pro-life conflation between human and persons. In reality not all human beings are sentient and hence people with a full set of inalienable rights. We remove brain dead human beings from life support all the time, and for several very compelling reasons.

167 Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2014 1:50:01pm

re: #140 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey, Pierre is a flowing fountain of money!

“I am a river to my people.”

Youtube Video

168 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 1:53:24pm

Another charming pro-lifer offers his opinion

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 1:54:14pm
170 GeneJockey  Jul 1, 2014 1:55:17pm

Spermatazoa are also human. Imagine the

Tissue culture cells derived from tumors are also human, AND they’re diploid (at least).

Hair follicle cells attached to pulled-out hairs? Human, AND diploid, AND normal.

171 Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2014 1:55:29pm

1 dead, 3 hurt in Indiana GM plant chemical blast

indystar.com

172 OhNoZombies!  Jul 1, 2014 1:55:31pm

re: #168 Kragar

So easy to talk shit when no one knows where you are.
Damn.

173 GeneJockey  Jul 1, 2014 1:57:00pm

re: #168 Kragar

Another charming pro-lifer offers his opinion

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That must be part of that outreach to women and minorities we heard so much about.

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 1:58:05pm

So, if the US loses this game is the headline going to be “US Defense Waffles in Loss to Belgium”?

FOX, of course, will change it to “Obama Fails to Support US sportsmen on foreign soil leading to humiliating loss to minor European power.”

175 Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2014 1:58:05pm

re: #168 Kragar

Another charming pro-lifer offers his opinion

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“Do you take communion with that tongue?”

176 GeneJockey  Jul 1, 2014 1:59:47pm

re: #175 Decatur Deb

“Do you take communion with that tongue?”

Yeah, but the wafer leaves a burn mark.

177 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 1, 2014 2:00:15pm
178 GeneJockey  Jul 1, 2014 2:00:30pm

re: #168 Kragar

Another charming pro-lifer offers his opinion

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Oh, no, wait - he put a smiley on it. That makes it okay.
//

179 b_sharp  Jul 1, 2014 2:01:13pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

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Human!

180 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 2:01:23pm

re: #163 Pie-onist Overlord

I was thinking of making a Photoshop of random stock images of adolescent & adult female human beings at various ages from 12-90 and labeling them “HUMAN” do you think wingnuts would get it?

181 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 2:01:29pm

re: #178 GeneJockey

Oh, no, wait - he put a smiley on it. That makes it okay.
//

“Your daughter’s a whore - no hard feelings, eh?”

182 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 2:01:44pm
The waffles were popularized in the United States during the 1964 New York World’s Fair[74] by Maurice Vermersch of Brussels, Belgium, and was named the Bel-Gem Waffle. Largely based on a simplified recipe for the Brussels waffles, Vermersch decided to change the name upon observing the poor geographical skills of Americans.

Wikipedia explanation for why it is “Belgian Waffle” here instead of “Brussels Waffle”. Maybe he was also trying to avoid any connection with the sprouts.

;)

183 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:01:46pm

And yes, I blocked him after that

184 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 2:02:40pm

re: #180 Pie-onist Overlord

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It has been noted that you didn’t put QEII there…
;P

185 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:03:15pm

re: #181 iossarian

“Your daughter’s a whore - no hard feelings, eh?”

They’re also 12 and 11, but anonymous trollings are fun like that.

186 Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2014 2:03:17pm

re: #184 Feline Fearless Leader

It has been noted that you didn’t put QEII there…
;P

The science isn’t settled.

187 GeneJockey  Jul 1, 2014 2:03:29pm

re: #183 Kragar

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And yes, I blocked him after that

I’m sure he ‘a-hyuck, a-hyuck, a-hyucked’ about his rapierist-like wit.

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 2:03:32pm

re: #184 Feline Fearless Leader

It has been noted that you didn’t put QEII there…
;P

Hmm except 3 of the women look as though they might not need birth controls.

189 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:07:07pm

re: #182 Feline Fearless Leader

Wikipedia explanation for why it is “Belgian Waffle” here instead of “Brussels Waffle”. Maybe he was also trying to avoid any connection with the sprouts.

;)

I’m going to fix a quick waffle for dinner, that way when I eat it I eat Belgium’s strength. So, if the USA wins, it will be due to tasty carbs with syrup and butter.

RBS

190 geoffm33  Jul 1, 2014 2:07:14pm

re: #179 b_sharp

Human!

191 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 2:09:09pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

I’m going to fix a quick waffle for dinner, that way when I eat it I eat Belgium’s strength. So, if the USA wins, it will be due to tasty carbs with syrup and butter.

RBS

How about some chicken and waffles?
en.wikipedia.org

192 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:09:16pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

The science isn’t settled.

ref: gender, or the whole “Lizardoid from Dracos” thing.

RBS

193 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:09:20pm

re: #180 Pie-onist Overlord

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Women are only human when you’re considered a “fetus”.

194 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:10:35pm

re: #183 Kragar

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And yes, I blocked him after that

That idiot probably knows a lot about asses since he’s a shit stain.

195 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 2:11:28pm

re: #193 Justanotherhuman

Women are only human when you’re considered a “fetus”.

???

196 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 2:11:28pm

...

197 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:11:45pm

re: #194 Justanotherhuman

That idiot probably knows a lot about asses since he’s a shit stain.

I just checked, he’s still trying to send me stuff.

198 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:11:52pm

re: #191 Feline Fearless Leader

How about some chicken and waffles?
en.wikipedia.org

I remember a discussion on those here one night. I had thought that they were a ‘southern thing’, since I never heard of them before I got here, but turned out I was wrong.

That’s just something that doesn’t work for me, I just can’t get my head around the flavors together. I’ve not tried them, so perhaps some day I will, but not tonight.

RBS

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 2:12:31pm

200 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:13:31pm

re: #198 RealityBasedSteve

I remember a discussion on those here one night. I had thought that they were a ‘southern thing’, since I never heard of them before I got here, but turned out I was wrong.

That’s just something that doesn’t work for me, I just can’t get my head around the flavors together. I’ve not tried them, so perhaps some day I will, but not tonight.

RBS

Hey, I used to like potato chips and ice cream together when I was young…

201 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 2:14:18pm

re: #195 Feline Fearless Leader

???

Took me a minute.

202 dog philosopher  Jul 1, 2014 2:15:04pm

the science isn’t settled regarding the issue of which in trimester of the game the waffles become belgian, socialist, or both

203 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:15:50pm

re: #199 Pie-onist Overlord

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LIES! That picture on the upper left is clearly a cartoon!

You almost had me.

204 Decatur Deb  Jul 1, 2014 2:16:20pm

re: #192 RealityBasedSteve

ref: gender, or the whole “Lizardoid from Dracos” thing.

RBS

Icke’s shtick, I think.

205 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:17:07pm

re: #203 Kragar

LIES! That picture on the upper left is clearly a cartoon!

You almost had me.

Yea, but look how she’s dressed, she’s a slutty slut cartoon that takes all kinds of birth control.

RBS

206 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:17:50pm

re: #205 RealityBasedSteve

Yea, but look how she’s dressed, she’s a slutty slut cartoon that takes all kinds of birth control.

RBS

Slutty cartoons are the best cartoons

207 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:18:59pm

re: #204 Decatur Deb

Icke’s shtick, I think.

Yep, first time I ran across his stuff many years ago, I really thought it was somebody’s idea of a satire site. Then I found out that there are a lot of believers out there. Now I think it’s a great grift.

RBS

208 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 1, 2014 2:19:39pm
209 Dr Lizardo  Jul 1, 2014 2:21:02pm

re: #207 RealityBasedSteve

Yep, first time I ran across his stuff many years ago, I really thought it was somebody’s idea of a satire site. Then I found out that there are a lot of believers out there. Now I think it’s a great grift.

RBS

I’d like to hope that Icke is satirizing conspiracy theories and CT types, because as a satire, Icke’s stuff is brilliant.

As a real idea…….not so much.

210 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:22:33pm
211 thedopefishlives  Jul 1, 2014 2:23:48pm

Afternoon/evening Lizardim.

212 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:26:06pm

re: #210 Kragar

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More interested in India saying its Mars mission cost less than “Gravity”.

213 thedopefishlives  Jul 1, 2014 2:28:07pm

One advantage to hanging out on LGF: On World Cup match days, I’ll know what happens before the ESPN Gamecast updates.

214 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:29:14pm
215 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:29:34pm
216 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:30:05pm

0-0 at 70 min
Belgium is really pushing hard on the US end

217 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:31:22pm

Some people can’t even trust their kids with grandma…

Grandmother arrested after toddler drinks meth tea

hosted.ap.org

“McDonald says investigators found that the grandmother, Cynthia Watson, made a cup of tea the night before and put meth in it “to get herself high.” The girl apparently drank it when the cup was unattended.”

More

218 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 2:31:50pm

Pat Nevin sums up the USA with quasi-Twitter brevity:

“The battling qualities of the USA players are second to none. They are not the most skilful side, in fact if they were to go through to the quarter-finals they would probably be the eighth-best of eight. But you still wouldn’t write them off because of how hard they work.”

bbc.com

219 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 2:32:03pm

re: #209 Dr Lizardo

theguardian.com

“Yes.” clarified David Icke, “the families in positions of great financial power obsessively interbreed with each other. But I’m not talking about one earth race, Jewish or non-Jewish. I’m talking about a genetic network that operates through all races, this bloodline being a fusion of human and reptilian genes.” He threw up his hands. “And now, suddenly, the idea is that I’m saying it is a gigantic Jewish plot. But let me make myself clear - this does not in any way relate to an earth race.”

[…]

Fans and TV crews blocked his path. He hesitated for a moment. But then, miraculously, a gap appeared, a window of opportunity. Michael opened his coat, retrieved his pie, and took aim. The meringue pie flew through the air. It lightly brushed David’s sleeve and continued its journey. It splattered, with a devastating thud, all over the children’s book section.

“Well,” murmured David, brushing the pastry flakes from his jacket, “that massively backfired.”

“We’re just booksellers,’” said the store manager softly. “You’re wrecking the store.”

“Shame,” said some old ladies. There were sad tuts of disapproval.

The manager produced a sponge and began gently to clean the children’s books. “Please leave,” he said.

And, as the anti-racists slipped quietly away, a few members of David’s entourage grinned behind their hands. Later, over dinner, I heard one of them murmur, “Well, the fat Jews fucked up.”

David didn’t hear this comment. When they saw that I had, they blushed and fell silent and said nothing like it again

220 thedopefishlives  Jul 1, 2014 2:32:48pm

re: #216 RealityBasedSteve

0-0 at 70 min
Belgium is really pushing hard on the US end

From what I’m seeing, the Belgians have been absolutely owning this match offensively, but the American defense has refused to roll over and die.

221 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 1, 2014 2:34:51pm

I’ve just realized that according to Catholic theology the only people who could have gay sex are straight people because they won’t enjoy it. If it was a joyless and traumatic affair there’d be no sin to it. It could even be a form of penance.

222 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 1, 2014 2:35:27pm

Whatever Howard gets paid, it’s not enough.

RBS

223 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 2:35:50pm

re: #221 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Nope, doesn’t lead to procreation.

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:35:52pm
225 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:36:17pm

US Soccer Federation tells NBC there are 28,000 fans watching the US-Belgium match at Soldier Field in Chicago - @LukeRussert
see original on twitter.com

Prez has gotten a haircut. Today?

226 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 2:36:35pm

re: #219 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Not really sure about Jon Ronson. He presents his material in such a way as to practically invite suspicion that he’s making half of it up.

227 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 2:36:51pm

MVP of this match = Tim Howard’s legs. They’ve blocked so many potential goals.

228 Zamb  Jul 1, 2014 2:36:57pm

re: #221 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That sounds more like based on Catholic stereotypes than any theology…

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:37:05pm
230 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 2:38:04pm

re: #226 iossarian

Maybe. Not really familiar with his work.

231 Justanotherhuman  Jul 1, 2014 2:38:15pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wow, that’s very well done. : )

232 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:38:29pm

re: #221 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I’ve just realized that according to Catholic theology the only people who could have gay sex are straight people because they won’t enjoy it. If it was a joyless and traumatic affair there’d be no sin to it. It could even be a form of penance.

According to Fundamentalist logic, gay sex must be the most absolutely wonderful thing ever because once people are allowed to have it, society will collapse because no one will ever have straight sex ever again.

233 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:39:17pm

re: #232 Kragar

According to Fundamentalist logic, gay sex must be the most absolutely wonderful thing ever because once people are allowed to have it, society will collapse because no one will ever have straight sex ever again.

They sure do spend a lot more time talking about it than any other people.

234 thedopefishlives  Jul 1, 2014 2:40:02pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

They sure do spend a lot more time talking about it than any other people.

My suspicion is that many of them would secretly enjoy it, and that’s why they’re so afraid of it.

235 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:40:31pm
236 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 2:40:38pm

HURR HURR TEH DARKER HUMANZ WILL DESTROY AMERICA!!!!!!!

237 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:41:01pm

And excitement isn’t just in the US:

238 thedopefishlives  Jul 1, 2014 2:41:18pm

re: #236 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR TEH DARKER HUMANZ WILL DESTROY AMERICA!!!!!!!

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Well, maybe if they quit bitching about abortions and birth control and loosened up their sphincters about sex, we’d have more white babies.

239 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 2:41:52pm

re: #230 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Maybe. Not really familiar with his work.

I guess what I mean is that you have to assume he’s telling you the truth. Of course this is true of all journalism to some extent, but “proper” journalism is fairly rigorous about providing enough detail that someone could have a decent shot at verifying it, if they had the time and energy to do so.

With Ronson’s “fat Jews” statement, though, where do you start?

Later, over dinner, I heard one of them murmur, “Well, the fat Jews fucked up.”

I’m not saying it didn’t happen, just that there’s really no way to fact-check it at all.

240 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2014 2:42:25pm

re: #236 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR TEH DARKER HUMANZ WILL DESTROY AMERICA!!!!!!!

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These are the same people who are against minimum wage and tell the poorz don’t have children you can’t afford, right?

241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 2:43:24pm

re: #239 iossarian

I think journalists have a right to write about what they’ve witnessed themselves. That also means that sometimes this won’t be verifiable.

242 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 1, 2014 2:43:31pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

These are the same people who are against minimum wage and tell the poorz don’t have children you can’t afford, right?

AND TEH FAIR TAX!!!!!!

243 danarchy  Jul 1, 2014 2:43:42pm

Win or lose every US player should buy Howard a drink.

244 Targetpractice  Jul 1, 2014 2:44:03pm

re: #243 danarchy

Win or lose every US player should buy Howard a drink.

AMEN!

245 Kragar  Jul 1, 2014 2:44:35pm
246 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 2:48:48pm
247 wrenchwench  Jul 1, 2014 2:48:57pm

re: #238 thedopefishlives

Well, maybe if they quit bitching about abortions and birth control and loosened up their sphincters about sex and offered maternity and paternity benefits and childcare for reasonable prices and support for breast feeding at work (etc.), we’d have more white babies.

248 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 2:49:38pm

re: #241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I think journalists have a right to write about what they’ve witnessed themselves. That also means that sometimes this won’t be verifiable.

Yes - to some extent. But to say “someone in X’s entourage made the following sotto voce racist comment” is, for me, tricky, because you’re essentially accusing X of (at best) tolerating racism in a way that is very, very difficult to refute. I see it as being close to “when did you stop beating your wife”.

249 Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2014 2:49:48pm

OMG Tim Howard.

250 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 2:50:48pm
251 Tigger2  Jul 1, 2014 2:51:47pm

re: #236 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR TEH DARKER HUMANZ WILL DESTROY AMERICA!!!!!!!

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That’s not death to America that’s just a changing America, Bob Henry like most on the right are drama queens.

252 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 2:52:47pm

re: #248 iossarian

Sure, it’s tricky. But I think that the man who believes in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - even if he reinterprets them as “reptiloid conspiracy”, is not above suspicion in what concerns racism. So this “fits”, more or less.

253 dog philosopher  Jul 1, 2014 2:53:51pm

re: #245 Kragar

if you check fox news today you’ll find several articles claiming the influx of immigrants from latin america are bringing in epidemic levels of disease

it’s like something out of kkk literature of 100 years ago

254 Lidane  Jul 1, 2014 2:54:02pm
255 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 2:57:39pm

re: #252 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sure, it’s tricky. But I think that the man who believes in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - even if he reinterprets them as “reptiloid conspiracy”, is not above suspicion in what concerns racism. So this “fits”, more or less.

This is actually my bigger problem with Ronson, I think. If he toned down the “isn’t this crazy” stuff, or even just presented it in a less ambiguous way, he would be more effective in exposing the stuff he covers. As it is it becomes easier to dismiss it.

To continue this example, why didn’t he try to find out who this particular member of Icke’s entourage was? He could (presumably) have asked him, or Icke, for his name. If the guy had refused to answer, Ronson could have reported that refusal.

By publishing a name, or some more identifying information, of course, Ronson/The Guardian open themselves up to a libel case. But that’s what gives you the confidence that the phrase was, in fact, spoken.

256 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 1, 2014 3:05:34pm

re: #255 iossarian

I’m not sure I agree with this particular argument. How do you know he didn’t know who the member was? He didn’t publish his name, but the name would be out of place in the context - it’s not a news item, it’s an essay.

And, as the anti-racists slipped quietly away, a few members of David’s entourage grinned behind their hands. Later, over dinner, I heard Jack Jackson murmur, “Well, the fat Jews fucked up.”

Sure, this could have been written, but the reader doesn’t care about names of some random guys in Icke’s circle, so this kind of breaks the narrative flow. Yeah, I get your point about skepticism. But there’s nothing extraordinary in what has been reported here.

257 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 1, 2014 3:07:43pm

re: #228 Zamb

That sounds more like based on Catholic stereotypes than any theology…

What stereotypes? Actual Catholics don’t act like that about sex. That’s just Catholic doctrine. There’s a huge difference between the Church and the actual people; the disconnect is so large that it actually brings into question what the identity of a religion is: is it in the doctrine, or how its adherents behave and believe?

258 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 3:11:36pm

re: #256 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yeah, I get your point about skepticism. But there’s nothing extraordinary in what has been reported here.

You’d think it was extraordinary if it was reported about your entourage and you thought it hadn’t happened. Again, the problem for me is that it’s presented in such a way that Icke couldn’t really sue for libel even if he did think it hadn’t happened.

As for the essay/news article distinction, that’s really my discomfort with Ronson again - to some extent he wants to have it both ways, presenting “facts” but without the rigor to lend confidence that the stuff he’s reporting actually happened.

259 iossarian  Jul 1, 2014 3:14:43pm

Got to go - thanks for the back-and-forth*.

* as the bishop said to the actress.

260 Swift2991  Jul 1, 2014 6:10:06pm

re: #59 A Mom Anon

Well, SOMEBODY liked to meet all his friends in a beer hall in Munich, and they were armed. They didn’t harm anybody, did they?


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