Xenophobia Runs Rampant as Immigrant Families Are Turned Away by Right Wing Protesters

Fox News calls it “Defending the Homeland”
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In one of the sickest displays of right wing xenophobia I’ve seen in a long time, protesters turned out en masse in the California town of Murrieta today to wave flags, spew anger and hatred, chant “USA! USA!” and block buses containing hundreds of immigrant families from entering a Border Patrol processing center. Here’s the Desert Sun’s report: Protesters Block Bus at Murrieta Border Patrol.

So awful it’s hard to imagine.

But it gets worse. Because this is the graphic used by Fox News today to illustrate their report:

With an image of the Statue of Liberty, no less.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

It may be time to rewrite that inscription to reflect the new right wing reality.

UPDATE at 7/2/14 6:00:52 pm by Charles Johnson
UPDATE at 7/2/14 8:16:26 pm by Charles Johnson

To make things even weirder, Fox News blatantly stole their logo from the video game Bioshock Infinite, a game about a perverse right wing world where racists are in charge:

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719 comments
1 klys  Jul 2, 2014 5:44:33pm

Nothing creepy about references to the Homeland at all, no sirree.

2 Justanotherhuman  Jul 2, 2014 5:46:33pm

Those photos show what ignorant, scared, and racist white people look like.

3 Varek Raith  Jul 2, 2014 5:47:12pm
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
4 SteveMcGazi  Jul 2, 2014 5:47:41pm

re: #2 Justanotherhuman

Those photos show what ignorant, scared, and racist white people look like.

The pathetic thing about it is they think they’re taking a principled stand. It’s an abject failure of leadership.

5 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 5:47:46pm

With an image of the Statue of Liberty. These people are so incredibly fucked in the head.

6 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 5:47:53pm

But don’t you dare call them racists

7 SteveMcGazi  Jul 2, 2014 5:48:15pm

re: #3 Varek Raith

But just the light skinned legal ones.

8 lawhawk  Jul 2, 2014 5:48:19pm

These folks think they’re defending the homeland but are really subverting the DHS Border Patrol from processing these people. That’s the first step in deporting them.

Not that it matters.

And the same people complaining about the DHS enforcing the existing law will ignore that the DHS lacks the funds and means to deport these people and track their every move once they process them in the first place.

Unlike undocumented Mexican migrants, who are often immediately deported, the U.S. government detains and processes the Central Americans, who are eventually released and given a month to report to immigration offices. Many never show up and join the nation’s 11 million undocumented population, says the National Border Patrol Council, the union representing Border Patrol agents.

So, what to do? Find more money to deal with the problem? Or complain endlessly nothing’s done, and then protest when the DHS is doing something that it is required to do before they can be eventually deported in any event.

9 wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2014 5:48:43pm

I commented on the subject this morning:

When I heard about that this morning, my comment to Mr. w was, ‘Fucking Murrieta is a 30 year old town and they are worried about immigrants?’

I fact-checked myself later. Fucking Murrieta (which sounds like eyedrops but is named for the Basque sheep ranching family that settled there) has been incorporated for 23 years. At least 80% of the people who live there now were not there in 1980.

10 lawhawk  Jul 2, 2014 5:49:39pm

re: #3 Varek Raith

Little known fact about the Statue of Liberty is that Americans didn’t want it for a good long time. It took years to finally scrape up the funds to build the pedestal on which it stands, and it took that poem to help raise the money (along with a boost from Pulitzer).

Now? They’re going back to their xenophobic roots.

11 nsmith25  Jul 2, 2014 5:50:04pm

From Downstairs:
Text looks like it could be from Bioshock Infinite
Video game. There was a tea party group that used images from it, not knowing that they trolled themselves. Text image looks like it comes from that game.

Defend ‘Murica

12 Varek Raith  Jul 2, 2014 5:51:16pm

re: #11 nsmith25

From Downstairs:
Text looks like it could be from Bioshock Infinite
Video game. There was a tea party group that used images from it, not knowing that they trolled themselves. Text image looks like it comes from that game.

Defend ‘Murica

That was my first thought when I saw that graphic.

13 wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2014 5:52:36pm

re: #11 nsmith25

From Downstairs:
Text looks like it could be from Bioshock Infinite
Video game. There was a tea party group that used images from it, not knowing that they trolled themselves. Text image looks like it comes from that game.

Defend ‘Murica

Ah, now I get it.

14 Amory Blaine  Jul 2, 2014 5:52:45pm

15 b.d.  Jul 2, 2014 5:52:49pm

Kids. These people were acting like that in front of a bunch of scared children.

Children.

Traumatizing already scared kids, that’s your today’s GOP.

16 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 5:53:22pm
17 Amory Blaine  Jul 2, 2014 5:53:27pm

re: #14 Amory Blaine

Sorry, I’ll close the door on the way out..

18 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 5:54:01pm
19 austin_blue  Jul 2, 2014 5:55:22pm

re: #15 b.d.

Kids. These people were acting like that in front of a bunch of scared children.

Children.

Traumatizing already scared kids, that’s your today’s GOP.

Those weren’t women and children, those were Furren ‘Vaders! Brown ones!

20 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 5:55:49pm

Not the first time Bioshock Infinite got them

Tea Party Group Unironically Utilizes BioShock Infinite Propaganda

As we head into this holiday season, video game news grows relatively quiet and crazy stories start popping out their heads instead. For a bit of a break from the console wars, we turn to the National Liberty Federation, a conservative “Tea Party” styled group which has recently dipped its toes in the video game realm, albeit by accident.

They recently posted the above image to their Facebook page (found via Kotaku), which is a patriotic portrait of George Washington keeping the Irish, Chinese, Arabs and Africans at bay, demonstrating the statement on the picture:

“For God and Country - It Is Our Holy Duty To Guard Against The Foreign Hordes”

Normally, this would just be some good old fashioned racism/isolationism, but as any gamer reading this post will probably know, the image is actually taken from Irrational Games’ BioShock Infinite. The game, out earlier this year, brought players to the fictional city of Columbia, a floating metropolis where the founding fathers are worshiped as gods, and America has become a sort of fetishistic religion. The image is a mural found in the game, and has been used as part of its promotional materials, which is how the National Liberty Foundation likely found it.

21 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 5:56:36pm
22 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 5:58:16pm

They do realize that the Statue of Liberty itself is an immigrant of sorts coming from France. Oh, never mind.

23 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 5:58:18pm

typical rabble rousing agitation

it’s a contest of how much they can get their base riled up without starting actual riots and lynching before the midterms

typical fascist tactics

24 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 2, 2014 5:59:19pm

because a cheesy crop of the Statue of Liberty looks better than a concrete wall lined with barbed wire and sentries.

Which is what the hard right loons really want.

25 Amory Blaine  Jul 2, 2014 6:00:06pm

I noticed a lack of Gadsden flags in the crowd. Almost too convenient.

26 wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2014 6:00:08pm

Also from that protest:

27 SteveMcGazi  Jul 2, 2014 6:00:19pm

When I hear wingnuts insisting they only have a problem with the illegal immigrants, I have two thoughts. First, they probably want the number of legal immigrants to be zero, and second, that they should be congratulated for being born here legally,

28 lawhawk  Jul 2, 2014 6:01:21pm

re: #24 Rocky-in-Connecticut

It worked for Snake Plissken. /

29 Varek Raith  Jul 2, 2014 6:01:31pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

Also from that protest:

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Oh god spell check.

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 2, 2014 6:02:36pm

Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of cruelty to the poor and homeless. The Sodomites wanted to fuck the angels because it was OK to rape transients, not because they were Teh Ghey.

31 wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2014 6:03:06pm

More:

That man is an American.

The brother of the late banda singer Jenni Rivera, Lupillo Rivera, showed his support for migrant families and children by confronting California protesters who blocked buses carrying the migrants. Rivera carried a sign saying “Americans Are Immigrants” and waded into the protesters. According to a Telemundo report, he was spit at by protestors who didn’t want the migrants in Murrieta, California and blocked the buses carrying the migrants. Rivera, also a singer of banda with several recordings, shouted at the protesters that the migrants who come to the U.S. are the cooks, hotel workers and baby sitters. His protest came the day before what would have been his sister’s 45th birthday. Jenni Rivera died in a plane crash in December 2012.

32 thedopefishlives  Jul 2, 2014 6:03:18pm

re: #22 Gus

They do realize that the Statue of Liberty itself is an immigrant of sorts coming from France. Oh, never mind.

You didn’t really expect them to know anything about history, did you? Besides, it doesn’t matter all that much, France is white so they’re OK.

33 Amory Blaine  Jul 2, 2014 6:03:24pm

re: #22 Gus

They do realize that the Statue of Liberty itself is an immigrant of sorts coming from France. Oh, never mind.

It was a Trojan horse!!

34 ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2014 6:03:32pm

I had just posted a comment on the FOX graphic downstairs…when I noticed a new thread kicked in. So, I’d like to quote it here.

As soon as I saw that stupid FOX graphic I thought of that statement. ( A reference to what is written on the base of Lady Liberty)

FOX knows it too. But they will never miss an attempt to sell red meat to the idiots they cater to that have zero idea of history because they would have had to learn it.

35 SteveMcGazi  Jul 2, 2014 6:04:17pm

OK, maybe it’s a bit like picking low hanging fruit to go after lame sign makers, but if you can’t do something as cognitively simple as spelling a few easy words, what makes you think that you’ve thought the issues through?

36 Justanotherhuman  Jul 2, 2014 6:04:42pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

Also from that protest:

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Ignorant, scared, racist and semi-literate.

And they think they’re better than those they’re protesting against?

37 Shazam  Jul 2, 2014 6:05:28pm

Remember when America built the Statue of Liberty as a warning to immigrants to get the fuck out? The inscription reads, “Here be giants.”

38 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 6:05:47pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

Also from that protest:

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Illiterates want to keep out immigrants?

39 Justanotherhuman  Jul 2, 2014 6:05:48pm

re: #32 thedopefishlives

You didn’t really expect them to know anything about history, did you? Besides, it doesn’t matter all that much, France is white so they’re OK.

Except when it isn’t.

Freedom fries!

40 klys  Jul 2, 2014 6:06:33pm

Because occasionally you need non-derpy things to laugh at:

41 nsmith25  Jul 2, 2014 6:07:36pm

FOX used the wrong Statue of Liberty graphicI AIN’T FROM FRANCE

42 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 6:08:02pm
43 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 6:08:12pm
44 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 6:09:48pm

Sometimes I don’t even recognize what this country is becoming.

45 wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2014 6:09:52pm

Later, lizards.

46 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 6:10:33pm

obamacare? played out
benghazi? doesn’t work no matter how hard we flog it
bergdhal? seven day wonder
ISIS? base wants nothing to do with arabs

i know!

RACISM!

47 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 6:11:07pm

Watching Maddow now, and I’m about to shut this shit off. These people are just so hateful.

48 goddamnedfrank  Jul 2, 2014 6:11:34pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

More:

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That lady is a real charmer. She’s the one in the video who felt screaming “contempt of congress,” from her mini van formed some kind of compelling argument.

49 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 6:11:48pm

Typical right-wingers. All hat, no cattle.

50 ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2014 6:12:36pm

How many of these idiots have even looked into their own backgrounds?

They might discover some of their family at one time came to America sick, poor and hated too.

51 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 6:12:56pm

I am literally ashamed of these people and I need a drink.
BBL

52 Stanley Sea  Jul 2, 2014 6:13:15pm

re: #25 Amory Blaine

I noticed a lack of Gadsden flags in the crowd. Almost too convenient.

Those folks were the poors who cant afford em.

53 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 6:14:28pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

Trailer Trash.

re: #42 Gus

Much rather have her in the US than the pig from above.

I also had this article pop up on Twitter.

They missed one accomplishment. The incredibly competent response to Hurricane Sandy, when compared to Katrina.

54 ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2014 6:14:41pm

re: #47 Kid A

Watching Maddow now, and I’m about to shut this shit off. These people are just so hateful.

I’m watching too. Did you catch her dig on the woman with the spelling error sign?

Something along the line of: “She seems to have an issue or something with eagles.”

Ha.

55 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 6:15:30pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

That lady is a real charmer. She’s the one in the video who felt screaming “contempt of congress,” from her mini van formed some kind of compelling argument.

if you read the polls, contempt of congress seems to come in at at least 80%

56 nsmith25  Jul 2, 2014 6:17:39pm

OT- Channel surfing: Watching Breakin’ 2, Electic Boogaloo.

57 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 2, 2014 6:17:53pm

You guys got outrage, humor. Me, I’m just mortified. Speechless. Embarrassed to the bone.

re: #51 Kid A

I am literally ashamed of these people and I need a drink.
BBL

Gotcha covered. have one with me.

58 Stanley Sea  Jul 2, 2014 6:19:02pm

re: #50 ObserverArt

How many of these idiots have even looked into their own backgrounds?

They might discover some of their family as one time came to America sick, poor and hated too.

They are not aware. They are just angry.

59 Stanley Sea  Jul 2, 2014 6:21:29pm

re: #56 nsmith25

OT- Channel surfing: Watching Breakin’ 2, Electic Boogaloo.

Under the Dome ! !

if you are into it, watch the recap of the first season. Worth it.

60 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 2, 2014 6:21:46pm

Now that’s bad timing.

My niece got a summer internship to do research *at a beach*. Her and her father drove down there on Sunday and he flew back today. Her housing is up in the air for a month or so, but she is staying at a beach house for the first couple of weeks.

It just so happens it’s right on the North Carolina coast.
O_o

(Her and I talked last week and she asked what the odds were about a hurricane making landfall in her general area while she was down there attending school. I figured good chances of once, maybe twice, in four years.)

61 SteveMcGazi  Jul 2, 2014 6:21:50pm

I registered R in 1980 because the Dems of the day were a lot like these right wing clowns of today. In 1980 the Republican Party was the party of pragmatism (although I knew even then what the Dixiecrats were going to do to it eventually). I think you still could have made that statement as late as 1990, but certainly by 1994, the party was already looking for a shark to jump.

62 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 2, 2014 6:22:05pm

re: #15 b.d.

Kids. These people were acting like that in front of a bunch of scared children.

Children.

Traumatizing already scared kids, that’s your today’s GOP.

These kids have guts. I admire that. My mind cannot even comprehend the vitriol directed at these children.

63 Amory Blaine  Jul 2, 2014 6:22:11pm

re: #56 nsmith25

OT- Channel surfing: Watching Breakin’ 2, Electic Boogaloo.

A cinematic masterpiece.

64 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 6:23:24pm

Oh bummer. I replaced xenophobia with racists. Hope I didn’t hurt their feewings.

65 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 6:23:34pm

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

You guys got outrage, humor. Me, I’m just mortified. Speechless. Embarrassed to the bone.

Gotcha covered. have one with me.

I feel for you friends.

66 Justanotherhuman  Jul 2, 2014 6:23:47pm

Some idiot…

TSA: Samurai sword found in carry-on bag at Logan International Airport in Boston - @WCVB
Read more on wcvb.com

67 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 6:24:03pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

Under the Dome ! !

if you are into it, watch the recap of the first season. Worth it.

Not following the book at all, but it’s good.

68 Justanotherhuman  Jul 2, 2014 6:25:16pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

They are not aware. They are just angry.

They’re not angry, they’re ragers.

69 klys  Jul 2, 2014 6:26:18pm

I have no idea why these people could possibly have gotten so worked up over this. It’s not like there’s an entire news channel perpetuating false myths and outrage over the issue for the past month.

////

70 Amory Blaine  Jul 2, 2014 6:26:23pm

I have to temper this shit with humor, lest I snap and take a dump on my RWNJ neighbors lawn or something. Nice and coiled with a Gadsden toothpick flag.

71 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 6:27:38pm

re: #68 Justanotherhuman

They’re not angry, they’re ragers.

They need that rush of hate to cover up the nagging fear that they’re inferior.

72 Stanley Sea  Jul 2, 2014 6:28:01pm

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

You guys got outrage, humor. Me, I’m just mortified. Speechless. Embarrassed to the bone.

Gotcha covered. have one with me.

This morning at work. This one young woman of Mexican descent was complaining about how they were grouping those people from Central America as Mexican.

Used all my strength to keep my mouth shut.

ITS SO UGLY

73 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 6:28:36pm
74 ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2014 6:28:57pm

re: #70 Amory Blaine

I have to temper this shit with humor, lest I snap and take a dump on my RWNJ neighbors lawn or something. Nice and coiled with a Gadsden toothpick flag.

I wouldn’t tread on that. But I can appreciate your creativity!

75 darthstar  Jul 2, 2014 6:29:11pm
76 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 2, 2014 6:30:31pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

ITS SO UGLY

Indeed.

77 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 6:30:50pm

so how do I load a picture here?

78 Justanotherhuman  Jul 2, 2014 6:30:59pm

re: #75 darthstar

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How long did it take you? : )

79 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 2, 2014 6:31:13pm

My answer to all the HURR HURR JUST PAY FOR UR OWN BIRTH CONTROLS!!!!!

80 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 6:33:04pm

ha!! sagehen PWNS ALL.

81 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 6:33:10pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

This morning at work. This one young woman of Mexican descent was complaining about how they were grouping those people from Central America as Mexican.

Used all my strength to keep my mouth shut.

ITS SO UGLY

There are some Mexicans who as are xenophobic toward Central Americans as US residents are. In fact, most of the Spanish-speaking Central American, Caribbean and South American nations don’t play well with each other.

82 darthstar  Jul 2, 2014 6:35:20pm

re: #78 Justanotherhuman

How long did it take you? : )

That game - about 15 minutes. Been playing for about three months - got to 1024 a few times, then saw a hint online about how not to get trapped…kind of spoiled it for me, actually. Building up to the 256s and 512s takes about 8 minutes of constant swiping without even looking at the phone. But knowing when to break the pattern was the key…that took me a good two weeks to figure out.

83 darthstar  Jul 2, 2014 6:36:04pm

re: #80 sagehen

Fortunately, the phone doesn’t go to 4096, but I could give that a shot with my computer.

84 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 6:36:37pm

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi

There are some Mexicans who as are xenophobic toward Central Americans as US residents are. In fact, most of the Spanish-speaking Central American, Caribbean and South American nations don’t play well with each other.

True, and that’s one of the major reasons why they try to come to a country where they don’t have to deal with that kind of bigotry.

And then they’re confronted with these right wing cave-people. Children and families. It breaks my heart. This country should be better than this.

85 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 6:38:04pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

True, and that’s one of the major reasons why they try to come to a country where they don’t have to deal with that kind of bigotry.

And then they’re confronted with these right wing cave-people. Children and families. It breaks my heart. This country should be better than this.

There’s also latent prejudice in Mexico and maybe elsewhere against los índios y los mestizos.

86 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 6:38:51pm
87 nsmith25  Jul 2, 2014 6:40:06pm

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi

There’s also latent prejudice in Mexico and maybe elsewhere against los índios y los mestizos.

Had a college professor from Northern Mexico who taught me about that.

What a(nother) day. Evening Lizards.

88 darthstar  Jul 2, 2014 6:40:27pm

Okay…looked at Threes but they want me to spend $1.99. Fuck that.

89 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 2, 2014 6:41:28pm

I’m going to start watching Das Boot, (Directors Cut). Probably make it a 2 night event.

Had a nice get-together with some of my co-workers after we got done today. Told war stories, swapped lies, roasted people not there, and solved all the organizations problems.

Life is good. Tomorrow I go down pick up some scuba tanks I got from my instructor (he gave me a super deal). I may get a dive in tomorrow, it will depend on just how murky the water is. In any case, I’ve got 4 full days to enjoy before I’m back in the harness and pulling my weight again.

RBS

90 darthstar  Jul 2, 2014 6:41:42pm

Image: 1497181_525960084186258_1653898001_n.jpg

91 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 6:42:11pm

I do have questions about WTF is wrong with the gov’ts of Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and wherever the hell else these people are coming from. If the situation is that desperate… why? Is there anything useful we can do that would make these people not have to flee for their lives?

92 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 6:42:52pm
93 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 6:44:03pm

European “Immigrants”.

Fucking god damn morons

94 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 6:44:48pm

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi

There are some Mexicans who as are xenophobic toward Central Americans as US residents are. In fact, most of the Spanish-speaking Central American, Caribbean and South American nations don’t play well with each other.

right winger show how little they understand hispanics also when they assume that hispanics are sympathetic to black people since they are both “minorities”, showing no awareness of the true dynamics of inter-minority relationships in the u.s.

95 ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2014 6:46:48pm

re: #92 Kragar

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Did you notice he was a senior aide for Ron Paul at one time? He’s a live one.

96 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 2, 2014 6:47:19pm

re: #89 RealityBasedSteve

I’m going to start watching Das Boot, (Directors Cut). Probably make it a 2 night event.

Had a nice get-together with some of my co-workers after we got done today. Told war stories, swapped lies, roasted people not there, and solved all the organizations problems.

Life is good. Tomorrow I go down pick up some scuba tanks I got from my instructor (he gave me a super deal). I may get a dive in tomorrow, it will depend on just how murky the water is. In any case, I’ve got 4 full days to enjoy before I’m back in the harness and pulling my weight again.

RBS

Sounds like fun. Spend my time after work at the range this morning. Nice and relaxing after the nights work. I should do that more often.

Das Boot is good if intense. If you ever get a chance, go to Chicago and see the U-505 and then realize that, small as it is, it’s bigger than the U-96 was…

97 austin_blue  Jul 2, 2014 6:50:27pm

re: #91 sagehen

I do have questions about WTF is wrong with the gov’ts of Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and wherever the hell else these people are coming from. If the situation is that desperate… why? Is there anything useful we can do that would make these people not have to flee for their lives?

Narco-economies. Take a look at the murder rate in San Pedro de Sula:

en.wikipedia.org

Your teen son is a gang-banging mule or he is dead. Pitiful.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 2, 2014 6:51:43pm
99 Zamb  Jul 2, 2014 6:52:08pm

re: #86 Kragar

Yea pretty much sums up many of my internet experiences. I just don’t get what these “philosophers” see in memes.

100 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 6:53:30pm
101 Sherlock Hound  Jul 2, 2014 6:53:34pm

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi
You musn’t think that all dark-skinned Spanish-speakers are “Hispanics”, as if they were one group. We Caucasians are too apt to think that. Best analogy I heard from a Puerto Rican: Think of the Irish vs. the Italians. (Dominicans and Puerto Ricans have a rivalry.)

102 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 6:55:26pm
103 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 6:59:46pm

re: #101 Sherlock Hound

You musn’t think that all dark-skinned Spanish-speakers are “Hispanics”, as if they were one group. We Caucasians are too apt to think that. Best analogy I heard from a Puerto Rican: Think of the Irish vs. the Italians. (Dominicans and Puerto Ricans have a rivalry.)

Recently saw a 1930’s Pittsburgh newspaper report on a fatal “race riot”—Irish vs Italians.

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 2, 2014 7:00:33pm
105 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:02:49pm

re: #82 darthstar

That game - about 15 minutes. Been playing for about three months - got to 1024 a few times, then saw a hint online about how not to get trapped…kind of spoiled it for me, actually. Building up to the 256s and 512s takes about 8 minutes of constant swiping without even looking at the phone. But knowing when to break the pattern was the key…that took me a good two weeks to figure out.

I knew a Central American woman years ago who was upset with the predominantly Hispanic school her kids went to because they were “picking up Mexican Spanish.” Oh the horror.

106 Belafon  Jul 2, 2014 7:03:32pm

re: #98 Pie-onist Overlord

Antibiotics. You forget the effects of them until the morning after sex.

Then therre’s the fact that it’s not of any of his business.

107 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 7:04:08pm

re: #92 Kragar

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I seem to remember that the welders on Empire State and the WTC were mostly Native Americans…

108 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:06:10pm

re: #107 sagehen

I seem to remember that the welders on Empire State and the WTC were mostly Native Americans…

A Brooklyn Mohawk community had a long tradition of high steel work. Think that’s fading now.

brooklynology.brooklynpubliclibrary.org

110 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 7:07:11pm

re: #109 Feline Fearless Leader

Find all sorts of weird stuff when you mix search terms…

My 10 year old took one look at that, groaned, and left the room

111 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 7:07:13pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

And now we’ll be treated to the sick spectacle of the right wing base uniting to defend this display of xenophobia. That’s how they roll.

it will be considered acceptable on the sole basis of the fact that what they claim to be hating is not called “hispanics” - instead it receives the respectable, ostensibly racist-free designation “illegals”

they’re not ‘racists’ - god forbid! - they’re just ‘protesting illegal immigration’

112 Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2014 7:08:39pm

Defend the Fatherland!!

113 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 2, 2014 7:08:56pm

re: #111 dog philosopher

it will be considered acceptable on the sole basis of the fact that what they claim to be hating is not called “hispanics” - instead it receives the respectable, ostensibly racist-free designation “illegals”

they’re not ‘racists’ - god forbid! - they’re just ‘protesting illegal immigration’

And they’re not fooling anybody other than themselves with that attempted differentiation.

114 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 7:11:15pm

re: #105 calochortus

I knew a Central American woman years ago who was upset with the predominantly Hispanic school her kids went to because they were “picking up Mexican Spanish.” Oh the horror.

The actress who plays the Mexican cop’s wife on “The Bridge” is Venezuelan… she had to work with a dialect coach for months to do the role.

115 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:11:42pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

A Brooklyn Mohawk community had a long tradition of high steel work. Think that’s fading now.

brooklynology.brooklynpubliclibrary.org

Heh.

“This changed in 1926 when Paul Diabo, a Mohawk iron worker, was arrested in Philadelphia on charges of being an illegal alien. The U.S. government argued that he was in the country illegally and was not eligable to work. His defense team used the 1812 The Treaty of Ghent which states that all rights and privileges lost during the War of 1812 be restored to Native Americans, including the right to travel freely from Canada and the U.S…”

116 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:12:05pm

While I do understand we need to control our borders, it seems to me to be counterproductive to worry quite so much about Hispanic immigrants.

A lot of Mexicans would probably be happy to go back and forth over the border to do seasonal work and then go back to their families, who wouldn’t also have to move up here to stay together.

Folks who get it together to travel thousands of miles-often with their children, probably have the kind of initiative and determination that might make them very good citizens.

I do wish there was something we could do to help Mexico and the Central American countries become better places for their own citizens.

117 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 7:12:09pm
118 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2014 7:12:13pm

As an immigrant, this shit makes my blood boil. I may have come from the North but my journey and experiences have led me to have a special heart for what goes on at the Southern border. Id love to travel the I 10 corridor from Texas to California someday and journal my experiences.

I have much more to say but I’m still at work so it will have to wait.

PS - That graphic is beyond deplorable

119 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 2, 2014 7:12:39pm

re: #113 Feline Fearless Leader

And they’re not fooling anybody other than themselves with that attempted differentiation.

Where were they in the mid eighties when illegal immigration form Ireland spiked?

Or NOW for that matter: thinkprogress.org

Oh, yeah, they might be Catholic too but they aren’t brown so they’re ok?

120 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 7:13:25pm

So I’m at the boozer to get away from this racist shit, chatting it up with my friends. On the sound system I hear “Just Like Honey” by the Jesus & Mary Chain which I just love. Made my night.

P.S. That song is also part of the “Lost in Translation” soundtrack, which is an awesome film as well.

121 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 2, 2014 7:13:33pm

re: #96 William Barnett-Lewis

Sounds like fun. Spend my time after work at the range this morning. Nice and relaxing after the nights work. I should do that more often.

Das Boot is good if intense. If you ever get a chance, go to Chicago and see the U-505 and then realize that, small as it is, it’s bigger than the U-96 was…

Getting up to Chicago is very much in my plans, I really want to see the museum of science and industry. I recall a while back, a few of the Chicago based lizards also had some great suggestions.

I’ve seen Das Boot before, you’re correct, it’s a ‘hard’ movie to watch. and at 3:30 for the extended version, not one I’d want to do just before bed.

RBS

122 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:13:54pm

Statue of Liberty
Date of Birth: October 28, 1886
Country of Origin: France
Father: Frédéric Bartholdi
Status: Immigrant

123 Mich-again  Jul 2, 2014 7:16:39pm

If your religion stops at the border, its not a religion.

124 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 7:17:03pm

re: #123 Mich-again

You win.

125 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:17:08pm

re: #116 calochortus

While I do understand we need to control our borders, it seems to me to be counterproductive to worry quite so much about Hispanic immigrants.

A lot of Mexicans would probably be happy to go back and forth over the border to do seasonal work and then go back to their families, who wouldn’t also have to move up here to stay together.

Folks who get it together to travel thousands of miles-often with their children, probably have the kind of initiative and determination that might make them very good citizens.

I do wish there was something we could do to help Mexico and the Central American countries become better places for their own citizens.

We could start by dropping the utterly failed War on Drugs, and start treating addiction as a medical problem.

126 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:17:51pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

We could start by dropping the utterly failed War on Drugs, and start treating addiction as a medical problem.

We could, but what are the odds?

127 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 2, 2014 7:18:23pm

That horrible moment when you go to block some asshole and find out that you’ve been following his Tweets!

128 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:19:30pm

re: #126 calochortus

We could, but what are the odds?

About the same as a Black or female president. We’ll do it sooner or later unless we find a faster way to screw ourselves up.

129 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 7:20:43pm

Obama’s Open Borders Put Nation’s Health At Risk

Last weekend, at least two confirmed cases of the swine flu virus were detected in minors being held in two separate detainment facilities in South Texas, a stark reminder that the conditions created by President Obama’s orchestrated invasion of the U.S. are ripe for viral outbreaks that jeopardize the health of American citizens.

obama’s “open borders”???

investor’s fucking daily???

“orchestrated invasion of the u.s.”????

i think i need a pill or something…

130 Mich-again  Jul 2, 2014 7:21:16pm

re: #126 calochortus

We could, but what are the odds?

The numbers look pretty impressive in Colorado for the jobs created, tax revenue and drop in crime. Its going to get harder and harder to keep pushing the Reefer Madness line of BS.

131 Kragar  Jul 2, 2014 7:21:18pm
132 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 7:21:38pm

re: #129 dog philosopher

That is journalistic malpractice.

133 austin_blue  Jul 2, 2014 7:22:55pm

re: #125 Decatur Deb

We could start by dropping the utterly failed War on Drugs, and start treating addiction as a medical problem.

re: #126 calochortus

We could, but what are the odds?

Small to none. Prisons are money makers.

Treating addiction as a medical problem doesn’t punish evil-doers! We need to protect our freedoms by putting sick people in jail and paying $40,000/year to keep them there!

134 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 7:23:13pm

freeps

Spread a disease and then declare it an epidemic just in time to suspend Nov elections by executive order. Then blame the border crossing hordes.

…

This open borders nightmare is deliberate.

“The Cloward-Piven strategy involves draining and overloading the system in order to get the political change zer0/ValJar wants.”

…

Obama’s goal is the obliteration of the white race. This is an attempt to create a Pan American Union where the majority are Hispanic. Permanent Democrat/Socialist majority. Extermination by open borders.

135 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 7:23:42pm

re: #132 Kid A

That is journalistic malpractice.

investor’s fucking daily fercrissakes wtf???

136 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:25:03pm

re: #129 dog philosopher

International tourism never brings disease. Rich people don’t get sick.

137 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:26:09pm

re: #133 austin_blue

Small to none. Prisons are money makers.

Treating addiction as a medical problem doesn’t punish evil-doers! We need to protect our freedoms by putting sick people in jail and paying $40,000/year to keep them there!

We learn. It’s on a geologic timescale.

138 andres  Jul 2, 2014 7:26:18pm

re: #105 calochortus

I knew a Central American woman years ago who was upset with the predominantly Hispanic school her kids went to because they were “picking up Mexican Spanish.” Oh the horror.

There is such thing as Mexican Spanish. Each country and region has its own form of Spanish. It’s not just the accent and a few choice words. The slang can be vastly dissimilar, and words can take whole new meanings.

139 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:26:36pm

re: #134 dog philosopher

freeps

Obama’s goal is the obliteration of the white race. This is an attempt to create a Pan American Union where the majority are Hispanic. Permanent Democrat/Socialist majority. Extermination by open borders.

Supposedly in 1000 years we’ll all be sort of tan. Why should I care about that?

140 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:27:40pm

re: #138 andres

There is such thing as Mexican Spanish. Each country and region has its own form of Spanish. It’s not just the accent and a few choice words. The slang can be vastly dissimilar, and words can take whole new meanings.

Of course there is such a thing. I just think it’s silly to worry about a child’s language skills being corrupted by other languages and dialects.

141 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 7:27:49pm

re: #129 dog philosopher

Obama’s Open Borders Put Nation’s Health At Risk

Last weekend, at least two confirmed cases of the swine flu virus were detected in minors being held in two separate detainment facilities in South Texas, a stark reminder that the conditions created by President Obama’s orchestrated invasion of the U.S. are ripe for viral outbreaks that jeopardize the health of American citizens.

obama’s “open borders”???

investor’s fucking daily???

“orchestrated invasion of the u.s.”????

i think i need a pill or something…

The swine flu has been around for a very long time and is common in the US.

142 Varek Raith  Jul 2, 2014 7:27:49pm

re: #75 darthstar

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Piss off.
:P

143 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 7:28:21pm

re: #131 Kragar

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Heading back to the dark ages, you are.

144 austin_blue  Jul 2, 2014 7:28:43pm

re: #136 calochortus

International tourism never brings disease. Rich people don’t get sick.

Anti-vaxers having nothing to do with the home-grown increase in whooping cough, rubella…

Let’s blame it on the poor refugees. They’re brown, after all. Some of them may even be black!

Conspiracy to destroy the white race!

145 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:30:43pm
147 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 7:31:59pm

Meanwhile, from the right wing’s new hero:

148 Belafon  Jul 2, 2014 7:32:07pm

re: #129 dog philosopher

i think i need a pill or something…

You already took the red pill.

149 austin_blue  Jul 2, 2014 7:32:46pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

We learn. It’s on a geologic timescale.

I don’t think this society has that long. These gaspers are getting seriously weird and scary.

(Note to self: You are leaking paranoia. Not healthy. Stop it, a_b! Pull up your big boy pants!)

And yet…

150 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:34:31pm

re: #149 austin_blue

I don’t think this society has that long. These gaspers are getting seriously weird and scary.

(Note to self: You are leaking paranoia. Not healthy. Stop it, a_b! Pull up your big boy pants!)

And yet…

We are a bit better than we have ever been. Those who think not read too many blogs and too few archived newspapers.

151 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:34:33pm
152 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:34:46pm
153 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:36:33pm
154 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 7:36:45pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Fox News Rips Off BioShock Infinite Logo, Irony Ensues

Unbelievable. Dog whistles are gone. Air raid sirens have gone the way of the dodo. They’re walking right up to us and screaming it right into our ears.

WE’RE IGNORANT BIGOTED ASSHOLES ARMED TO THE TEETH

155 Jay in Oregon  Jul 2, 2014 7:36:58pm

They’re just trying to revive old-fashioned American values:

Standing athwart history, yelling “Stop”

156 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:37:38pm
157 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:38:35pm

re: #151 Gus

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An informed citizenry, apparently.
/

158 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:40:36pm
159 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 7:41:12pm

Who knew.

160 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 7:41:16pm

Easy to despair with this news.

I can rest easy though, ‘cause my mind is already in another place. I’m done with work until next week, and I’m “getting in the van” as the Umphreaks call it! Umphrey’s McGee! Tomorrow night in Omaha, Friday in Boulder and Saturday at Red Rocks!

Ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy!!!!!!

161 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 7:42:48pm

re: #155 Jay in Oregon

They’re just trying to revive old-fashioned American values:

Standing athwart history, yelling “Stop”

That’s not a picture of an ignorant, hateful mob. That’s a photo of unstoppable American courage.

162 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 7:47:14pm

re: #134 dog philosopher

freeps

Spread a disease and then declare it an epidemic just in time to suspend Nov elections by executive order. Then blame the border crossing hordes.

…

This open borders nightmare is deliberate.

“The Cloward-Piven strategy involves draining and overloading the system in order to get the political change zer0/ValJar wants.”

…

Obama’s goal is the obliteration of the white race. This is an attempt to create a Pan American Union where the majority are Hispanic. Permanent Democrat/Socialist majority. Extermination by open borders.

See also:

To: raptor22

You aint heard nothing yet. Every diseases that we thought we had eliminated in the USA is coming back, in spades. From HODGESKIN disease(LEPROCY), to tuberculosis, to lice infestation, to whatever diseases these people are carrying, will be afflicting us in spades. All because these people wanted to bring these people in. Unless we take action now, and deport these people, we will be in it clear up our shorts.

Bolding mine. I think he means Hansen’s disease and leprosy. Naturally we never,ever had leprosy in the US before now. Right?
Oh wait. Now we can just treat it unlike when we had leper colonies.
*******

To: raptor22

Drug resistant TB and Chagas disease are a death sentence for America. Read up on Chagas disease. Obama is trying to kill us all off…..this is grounds for impeachment.

18 posted on 7/2/2014, 7:17:03 PM by doc maverick
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Chagas disease? It’s transmitted through a host. That’s not going to get very far unless the bugs that carry it can enjoy a warmer climate in the US. No global warming? No problem!

163 aagcobb  Jul 2, 2014 7:49:09pm

re: #153 Gus

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Matthew 25:41-45

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

164 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 7:50:33pm

re: #163 aagcobb

165 Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2014 7:52:27pm

re: #163 aagcobb

Matthew 25:41-45

I don’t think their revised version has those lines in it. It has been translated in their book to read “Fuck them”. Jesus had a brevity with words in their translation.

166 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 2, 2014 7:54:05pm

re: #163 aagcobb

Matthew 25:41-45

I like asking fundies if they enjoy being with goats. It goes over most of their heads but occasionally one will get it and be furious.

167 Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2014 7:55:25pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

With an image of the Statue of Liberty. These people are so incredibly fucked in the head.

In a rather ironic twist, Fox News took the background graphic from Bioshock Infinite.

168 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 7:56:07pm

under what flavor of law hallucination can obama’s immigration policy be described as ‘open borders’???

169 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 8:00:44pm

re: #168 dog philosopher

Tea.

170 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 8:01:33pm

Test-marketing the TrollBurger:

Burger King sells gay pride Whopper

usatoday.com

171 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 8:04:05pm

Reich described the two factors as “push factors and pull factors.”

“The push factors are mainly poverty, lack of economic opportunity, and insecurity in the countries,” the former ambassador explained.

“The pull factor is the fact that the United States has basically, unfortunately, this president, unbeknownst to him, has declared an open border.

“When he said that the people who were here before a certain date would be allowed to stay, what the people in Central America heard was if you get to the United States now, in four or five years or in 10 years, the next president is going to say the people that got here before that date or after that day are also going to be able to stay,” Reich said.

“So, this was caused, frankly, by the lack of understanding, on the part of this administration, of what causes people to leave their homes and come to the United States.”

yet again, it’s not what you actually do, say, or believe, it’s a tortured argument that concludes that you do, say, or believe something you never did, said, or believed

172 Mich-again  Jul 2, 2014 8:05:45pm

re: #163 aagcobb

I like to drop this passage on the Tea Party crowd. Romans 13: 1-7.

1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

173 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:07:29pm

re: #172 Mich-again

I’m sure that’s not what he really meant.
/

174 Varek Raith  Jul 2, 2014 8:10:54pm

They really did rip off the Bioshock logo..
Lofuckingl.

175 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:12:41pm

It’s a longer version of “render unto Caesar” that which he is owed.

Trouble is, Tea Partiers don’t think they owe Caesar (Obamus Caesar) anything at all.

176 Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2014 8:12:45pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

Ignorant, scared, racist and semi-literate.

And they think they’re better than those they’re protesting against?

Actually, the fact that they believe they are better than the immigrants is the only thing they have to support their identities. That’s why they react so harshly to the immigrants. Their egos can’t handle the fact that they are sorry excuses for human beings.

177 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 8:14:14pm

re: #138 andres

There is such thing as Mexican Spanish. Each country and region has its own form of Spanish. It’s not just the accent and a few choice words. The slang can be vastly dissimilar, and words can take whole new meanings.

Oh god yes. There are very real differences between the Spanish spoken in Mexico and other countries in Latin America. Slang, word choice, even tenses all come into play. You could give the same paragraph to three people from three different countries (say, Mexico, Argentina, and Nicaragua) and tell them to translate it and you’d have three different translations.

Sure, it would all be in Spanish, but you’d see the subtle differences in how it’s spoken across Latin America.

178 Mich-again  Jul 2, 2014 8:14:25pm

re: #173 calochortus

I’m sure that’s not what he really meant.
/

And every time you show them that passage you will get exactly that response. That it wasn’t intended to mean what it literally says. They are strict constructionists when they find it convenient and accept liberal translations otherwise.

179 Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2014 8:19:05pm

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi

There’s also latent prejudice in Mexico and maybe elsewhere against los índios y los mestizos.

It’s almost like it’s easier to hate people a person doesn’t know than work on improving themselves.

180 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 8:19:50pm
181 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:20:50pm

re: #180 Lidane

I read that and have no idea how he thinks he is different from any other immigrant. Oh wait. He isn’t.

182 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 8:22:00pm

re: #178 Mich-again

And every time you show them that passage you will get exactly that response. That it wasn’t intended to mean what it literally says. They are strict constructionists when they find it convenient and accept liberal translations otherwise.

let me guess - it was true in jesus’ time since the pagan emperors who persecuted christianity were legitimately elected, i mean appointed, um, i mean took over power by legitimate coup d’etat, unlike obama who’s really from kenya

183 Sherlock Hound  Jul 2, 2014 8:23:00pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

Yeah, a lot of “white” immigrants like to skate over that little phenomenon. I’m 1/4 French-Canadian and I have wanted to disown that more than once after hearing some of the bigotry from French-Canadians I knew.

184 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 2, 2014 8:23:33pm

re: #172 Mich-again

That quote is also one that gets trotted out for the whole “divine right of kings” thing. But then again government and religious hierarchy have worked hand-in-hand to maintain the status quo pretty often.

185 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 8:25:18pm

Bioshock Infinite creator Ken Levine:

186 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:25:22pm

re: #177 Lidane

Oh god yes. There are very real differences between the Spanish spoken in Mexico and other countries in Latin America. Slang, word choice, even tenses all come into play. You could give the same paragraph to three people from three different countries (say, Mexico, Argentina, and Nicaragua) and tell them to translate it and you’d have three different translations.

Sure, it would all be in Spanish, but you’d see the subtle differences in how it’s spoken across Latin America.

There is as much variety among “Spanishes” as there is among “Englishes” around the world, or even more. “I’ll knock you up in the morning” means something entirely different to a Brit and a Yank, for example.

187 Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2014 8:25:26pm

re: #180 Lidane

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“chose America”

And these people were obviously just wandering around for a couple thousand miles and happened to find they had wandered to the US border. Bet they were suprised

188 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 8:25:32pm

re: #183 Sherlock Hound

The same reason reason I tend to run from my Frisian ancestry, with is approximately 30% of ancestry.

Now part of the Netherlands and Germany, two of the nastiest anti-immigrant nations in Europe.

I think Netherlands, I think Geert Wilders.

189 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:28:00pm

re: #179 Romantic Heretic

It’s almost like it’s easier to hate people a person doesn’t know than work on improving themselves.

It’s an attitude among Mexicans who believe they are of 100% European descent, with no added Indian or mestizo heritage. Rather similar to the attitude of Southerners who deny any African-American heritage.

190 Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2014 8:28:50pm

re: #188 The War TARDIS

The same reason reason I tend to run from my Frisian ancestry, with is approximately 30% of ancestry.

Now part of the Netherlands and Germany, two of the nastiest anti-immigrant nations in Europe.

I think Netherlands, I think Geert Wilders.

I think “hooge moogende”, my Irish aunt’s favorite dismissive term.

191 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 8:29:55pm

Fucking Andrew Sullivan.

You can read countless screeds against this decision, for example, that nowhere even mention that for some devout people, the mandate might actually be a genuine problem of conscience.

What a load of shit. It’s not nor has it ever been a “problem of conscience” with these people. It’s about control of women, period. And the fundies are basing their “closely held beliefs” on bad science.

192 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 8:30:23pm

re: #185 Lidane

Levine also posted about it on Facebook here and here. I love his one real complaint:

It’s not the irony of that Fox news thing that bothers me so much. It’s the typesetting.

Heh.

193 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:30:57pm

re: #188 The War TARDIS

The same reason reason I tend to run from my Frisian ancestry, with is approximately 30% of ancestry.

Now part of the Netherlands and Germany, two of the nastiest anti-immigrant nations in Europe.

I think Netherlands, I think Geert Wilders.

I think of windmills, Amsterdam and Vermeer.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 2, 2014 8:31:05pm

Youtube Video

195 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:31:07pm

re: #188 The War TARDIS

The same reason reason I tend to run from my Frisian ancestry, with is approximately 30% of ancestry.

Now part of the Netherlands and Germany, two of the nastiest anti-immigrant nations in Europe.

I think Netherlands, I think Geert Wilders.

And yet, there are lovely people there too.
Thing is that our brains aren’t really well adapted to all aspects of modern life. Prejudice can keep you alive if the neighboring tribes aren’t friendly. Even today if you see someone coming towards you wearing a ski mask and carrying a baseball bat, a form of prejudice will tend to make you run rather than question whether that is actually a classics professor with an unfortunate skin condition on his way to a softball game.

We need to work on overcoming the counterproductive aspects rather than being ashamed of our ancestors.

196 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 8:31:19pm

Apparently the Murrieta bigots are going to let it all hang out tonight.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 2, 2014 8:32:02pm

re: #196 jaunte

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Apparently the Murrieta bigots are going to let it all hang out tonight.

Until they need to build a fake town overnight.

198 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:32:38pm

re: #196 jaunte

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Apparently the Murrieta bigots are going to let it all hang out tonight.

You mean it isn’t actually all about illegal immigration? They’re really just bigots?

199 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 8:34:47pm

re: #198 calochortus

A modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.

200 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 8:34:55pm

re: #197 Feline Fearless Leader

Until they need to build a fake town overnight.

Youtube Video

201 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:36:05pm

Amid this raw bigotry, I want to relay some happier news. Two of my Chinese students have summer jobs in Wyoming. Both had some job-related troubles at first (weird bosses), but are now better situated and quite happy. They said everyone they met (aside from the weird bosses) were friendly, welcoming and helpful. One said the motel owner gave her a lift to the bus stop in Shoshoni, no charge, and the bus driver advised her on how to save money and time on the bus route.

So, we need to remember that these idiots in CA are in the minority. Most Americans are hospitable, deep down inside.

202 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 8:37:38pm

re: #188 The War TARDIS

The same reason reason I tend to run from my Frisian ancestry, with is approximately 30% of ancestry.

Now part of the Netherlands and Germany, two of the nastiest anti-immigrant nations in Europe.

I think Netherlands, I think Geert Wilders.

the frisian form of dutch is supposed to be the closest language to english

203 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 8:37:43pm

re: #199 The War TARDIS

And the Demographics of NeoGomorrah, as I will now call it:

The 2010 United States Census[11] reported that Murrieta had a population of 103,466. The population density was 3,078.1 people per square mile (1,188.5/km²). The racial makeup of Murrieta was 72,137 (69.7%) White (55.7% Non-Hispanic White),[12] 5,601 (5.4%) African American, 741 (0.7%) Native American, 9,556 (9.2%) Asian, 391 (0.4%) Pacific Islander, 8,695 (8.4%) from other races, and 6,345 (6.1%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 26,792 persons (25.9%). The census reported 103,037 people (99.6% of the population) lived in households; that 291 people (0.3%) lived in non-institutionalized group quarters, and that 138 people (0.1%) were institutionalized.

There were 32,749 households, out of which 15,863 (48.4%) had children under the age of 18 living in them, 20,577 (62.8%) were opposite-sex married couples living together, 3,814 (11.6%) had a female householder with no husband present, 1,642 (5.0%) had a male householder with no wife present. There were 1,626 (5.0%) unmarried opposite-sex partnerships, and 192 (0.6%) same-sex married couples or partnerships. 5,208 households (15.9%) were made up of individuals and 2,248 (6.9%) had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 3.15. There were 26,033 families (79.5% of all households); the average family size was 3.51.

The population was spread out with 31,471 people (30.4%) under the age of 18, 9,891 people (9.6%) aged 18 to 24, 28,144 people (27.2%) aged 25 to 44, 23,555 people (22.8%) aged 45 to 64, and 10,405 people (10.1%) who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 33.4 years. For every 100 females there were 95.2 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 91.2 males.

There were 35,294 housing units at an average density of 1,050.0 per square mile (405.4/km²), of which 23,110 (70.6%) were owner-occupied, and 9,639 (29.4%) were occupied by renters. The homeowner vacancy rate was 3.1%; the rental vacancy rate was 7.8%. 73,518 people (71.1% of the population) lived in owner-occupied housing units and 29,519 people (28.5%) lived in rental housing units.

Looks like it is a place that will become Minority Majority with in a few years.

204 Mich-again  Jul 2, 2014 8:41:08pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Fucking Andrew Sullivan.

What a load of shit. It’s not nor has it ever been a “problem of conscience” with these people. It’s about control of women, period. And the fundies are basing their “closely held beliefs” on bad science.

They have selective problem of conscience. I’m not even sure to which religion they subscribe. It seems the Court said people can just make up their own religious objections.

205 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 8:41:59pm

re: #202 dog philosopher

I know. :)

But, looking right now, especially being Muslim, I have no pride in being 30% Frisian.

206 Stephen T.  Jul 2, 2014 8:44:48pm

re: #133 austin_blue

Twelve years ago, Portugal eliminated criminal penalties for drug users. Since then, those caught with small amounts of marijuana, cocaine or heroin go unindicted and possession is a misdemeanor on par with illegal parking. Experts are pleased with the results.

Link for more.

Twelve years isn’t that long a time, but it is still a significant enough time to start making conclusions. I’m hoping that the trend will continue and that other nations start following along.

207 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 8:45:17pm

re: #205 The War TARDIS

I know. :)

But, looking right now, especially being Muslim, I have no pride in being 30% Frisian.

Fuck the ancestry and just be proud of being you.

You aren’t your ancestors.

208 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:45:40pm

re: #205 The War TARDIS

I know. :)

But, looking right now, especially being Muslim, I have no pride in being 30% Frisian.

Your heritage is not the sole determiner of your being.

209 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 8:47:03pm

Eric Dondero, Senior Aide to US Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) ‘97-03.

210 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 8:47:34pm

re: #205 The War TARDIS

I know. :)

But, looking right now, especially being Muslim, I have no pride in being 30% Frisian.

My grandfather (Dad’s dad) who passed when I was a teenager, was super racist. So yeah, heritage has nothing to do with who you are as an individual.

211 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:49:19pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

My grandfather (Dad’s dad) who passed when I was a teenager, was super racist. So yeah, heritage has nothing to do with who you are as an individual.

My mom’s dad didn’t like Baptists, Jews or Norwegians. He was a Swede with particular tastes.

212 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:49:35pm

re: #209 jaunte

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Eric Dondero, Senior Aide to US Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) ‘97-03.

Members of the Hitler Youth were running death camps? Somehow I doubt that.

213 Stephen T.  Jul 2, 2014 8:50:20pm

re: #149 austin_blue

I started to read Ready Player One but had to stop after the main character started to describe his life (our potential future) and realized that my daughter is likely to live in that predicted, depressing, future. For those who haven’t read the book, it is quite dystopic and depressing. But the predictions come across as reasonable and logical.

214 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 8:51:42pm

Aieee! [caution, bad language, like, really bad]

215 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 8:51:46pm
216 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:51:55pm

re: #213 Stephen T.

In my experience, the future tends to surprise us. I don’t worry about the predictions of dystopian novels. The future could be bleak, but odds are it won’t be in ways that are predicted.

217 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 8:52:21pm

re: #212 calochortus

I don’t think Dondero has a secure connection with reality.

218 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:53:15pm

re: #217 jaunte

I don’t think Dondero has a secure connection with reality.

Apparently not.

219 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 8:54:56pm

re: #205 The War TARDIS

30% Frisian.

i was thinking, if i had to go “back where i came from”, i’d have to get divided up into several pieces and get sent back to germany, poland, russia, and lithuania

220 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 8:55:06pm
221 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 8:57:05pm

re: #219 dog philosopher

i was thinking, if i had to go “back where i came from”, i’d have to get divided up into several pieces and get sent back to germany, poland, russia, and lithuania

England, Sweden, and Finland. Interestingly, the Finnish contingent identified as Swedish, despite an apparent lack of actual Swedish ancestry (they did live in the Swedish speaking part of Finland.)

222 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 8:58:21pm

“…The protest was organized by a Tea Party-type group called We the People Rising. The protesters held signs saying “send the illegals back,” “return to sender,” and warning of “diseases.” Patrice Lynes, an unsuccessful candidate for Temecula City Council in 2012, organized the rally and once promoted a petition opposing the construction of a mosque in the town.”
…….
americasvoice.org

” According to the North County Times, the Islamic Center of Temecula Valley purchased the land for the mosque in 2005, and has stated that the application process for the mosque has taken nearly two years, while it has gone over details with the Temecula government.”
…..
“This Southwest Riverside County (SWRC) Tea Party group has been seeking to stop the building of the Islamic Center of Temecula Valley mosque - stating “It will bring in Islam and usher out our freedoms and liberties, as has happened all across Europe and already parts of the US…”

223 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 8:58:33pm

re: #221 calochortus

England, Sweden, and Finland. Interestingly, the Finnish contingent identified as Swedish, despite an apparent lack of actual Swedish ancestry (they did live in the Swedish speaking part of Finland.)

Sweden may have claimed part of Finland back when. I know the borders have changed over the last 400 years or more.

224 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 8:58:37pm

re: #219 dog philosopher

i was thinking, if i had to go “back where i came from”, i’d have to get divided up into several pieces and get sent back to germany, poland, russia, and lithuania

hey, we’re three-quarters landsmen!! (germany, poland, russia and romania).

225 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 8:59:19pm

re: #216 calochortus

In my experience, the future tends to surprise us. I don’t worry about the predictions of dystopian novels. The future could be bleak, but odds are it won’t be in ways that are predicted.

this is in accordance with Dog’s General Theory Of Predictions:

whatever it is that you predicted - that’s what ain’t gonna happen

226 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 8:59:49pm

re: #224 sagehen

hey, we’re three-quarters landsmen!! (germany, poland, russia and romania).

nu!

227 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:00:07pm

Oh look, she’s a Bundy Ranch fan.

facebook.com

228 Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2014 9:00:24pm

re: #219 dog philosopher

i was thinking, if i had to go “back where i came from”, i’d have to get divided up into several pieces and get sent back to germany, poland, russia, and lithuania

Ha. At least one half of me would be sent to Ireland. The other half would have to be carved into who knows how many pieces. And at least one piece will get to stay.

229 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:01:02pm

re: #219 dog philosopher

Exhaustive list for me. I would be scattered across Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, France, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Ukraine, Norway, Sweden, and Israel.

230 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 9:02:04pm

re: #219 dog philosopher

i was thinking, if i had to go “back where i came from”, i’d have to get divided up into several pieces and get sent back to germany, poland, russia, and lithuania

Scotland, England, Germany, Austria, Poland, Ukraine for me

231 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:02:07pm

re: #223 wheat-dogghazi

There is a large Swedish Speaking Minority in Finland today. Swedish is still a second language there.

232 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 9:02:27pm

re: #222 jaunte

“…The protest was organized by a Tea Party-type group called We the People Rising. The protesters held signs saying “send the illegals back,” “return to sender,” and warning of “diseases.” Patrice Lynes, an unsuccessful candidate for Temecula City Council in 2012, organized the rally and once promoted a petition opposing the construction of a mosque in the town.”
…….
americasvoice.org

We the people of these United States, who ain’t you! Get out!

Warning of diseases — that’s an old saw from every period in American history when an immigrant group arrived that wasn’t wanted.

The Native Americans would have said it, too, given the chance. In their case, it was a legitimate fear.

233 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:03:40pm

re: #229 The War TARDIS

Austrian Jewish that my grandfather claimed was confirmed. It is about 4 Generations back.

234 Eventual Carrion  Jul 2, 2014 9:03:44pm

re: #227 jaunte

Oh look, she’s a Bundy Ranch fan.

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facebook.com

Someone needs to shop in an attack helicopter coming over the ridge in the background.

235 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:04:54pm

re: #232 wheat-dogghazi

She puts a little extra spin on the fear of disease angle:

“…Lynes recalls that she has worked as a nurse in regions of the U.S. that have experienced similar diseases brought from abroad. She said the diseases that are likely to come in are drug-resistant tuberculosis; leprosy; tropical diseases, including dengue fever; Chagas disease; and various other childhood diseases. Lynes also noted that many of these diseases can be difficult to detect initially, and the medical screening being done during Border Patrol screening will not catch many of these diseases.”

Insidious, invisible, drug resistant zombie diseases!!!!

236 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 9:06:37pm

re: #235 jaunte

She puts a little extra spin on the fear of disease angle:

Insidious, invisible, drug resistant zombie diseases!!!!

I wonder if she’s also an anti-vaxxer. Homegrown diseases are a growing danger, too, in some communities.

237 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:07:17pm
238 goddamnedfrank  Jul 2, 2014 9:07:25pm

The Cochran vote buying story is seriously unraveling now.

Johnson’s only source was Rev. Stevie Fielder of Meridian, an individual who has been charged multiple times with fraud. Johnson admitted to paying Fielder for the story. Screenshots of Fielder’s cell phone showed ambiguous text messages between Saleem O Baird, a Cochran campaign staffer, asking for names and addresses of individuals for cash envelopes.

The Cochran campaign said Johnson’s “story” was ludicrous and fabricated and that the $15 being referred to was for volunteers and the GOTV effort, hence the need for names and addresses for finance reports.

Becoming pretty clear that the whole thing was a pure concocted pantload.

239 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 9:07:39pm

re: #209 jaunte

That guy is a serious asshole.

240 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:07:45pm

re: #223 wheat-dogghazi

Sweden may have claimed part of Finland back when. I know the borders have changed over the last 400 years or more.

Yes, Finland has passed back and forth between Sweden and Russia, with some opportunities to govern themselves from time to time, but in this case there is a specific family story (among the family still in Finland) about the family descending from a Swedish soldier in the 17th century. Of course, he would have presumably married a local Finnish woman, and so on through the generations, unless there were a lot of Swedes wandering around among the peasantry. Who knows?

241 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:07:51pm

re: #236 wheat-dogghazi

“Lynes recalls that she has worked as a nurse in regions of the U.S. that have experienced similar diseases brought from abroad.”

That’s awfully vague.

242 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 9:08:19pm

re: #224 sagehen

hey, we’re three-quarters landsmen!! (germany, poland, russia and romania).

reminds me of an antique joke:

“billy, where is the dutch border?”

“holland borders germany, belgium, and the north sea”

“good! and emmanuel, where is the romanian border?”

“he’s in the park kissing my mother”

243 b_sharp  Jul 2, 2014 9:08:23pm

re: #237 Gus

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You’re a fucking genius.

244 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 9:09:10pm

re: #237 Gus

Good one!

245 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:09:25pm

re: #237 Gus

That dragon insignia on his outfit looks “foreign.”

246 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:10:13pm

re: #245 jaunte

That dragon insignia on his outfit looks “foreign.”

Looks Japanese-Chinese-Sushi with a Celtic cross! //

247 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:10:22pm

re: #240 calochortus

Relevant to your interests.

248 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 9:10:25pm

re: #245 jaunte

It almost looks like, like, like…SOCCER EMBLEMS!!!!

249 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:10:40pm

re: #231 The War TARDIS

There is a large Swedish Speaking Minority in Finland today. Swedish is still a second language there.

And a lot of English. There is apparently some discussion of dropping the teaching of Swedish in favor of Russian.

250 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 9:14:30pm

And with this, any chance, however minuscule the GOP had of winning the White House in 2016 just went down the shitter. Congratulations, Teabaggers. You must be so proud.

251 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 9:15:46pm

This incident in Murrieta as well as the Hobby Lobby ruling is going to haunt the GOP for quite some time.

252 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:16:18pm

re: #247 The War TARDIS

Thanks.
At a certain level of course, none of this really matters-what matters (to me anyway) is more ‘what was their life like’ than what was their genetic make-up.
What has been particularly entertaining is finding a 3rd cousin in Finland who is doing a bunch of genealogy.

I’m also devoutly thankful that Finnish records were kept by the Swedish Church. In Swedish, not Finnish. I can slog through Swedish with a dictionary and Google Translate far more easily than Finnish.

253 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:16:19pm

re: #250 Kid A

I’m sure they aren’t done yet.

254 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:16:31pm

re: #251 Kid A

This incident in Murrieta as well as the Hobby Lobby ruling is going to haunt the GOP for quite some time.

We can only hope.

255 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2014 9:17:41pm

niters, all…

256 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:18:00pm

re: #249 calochortus

Yeah, I have to think recent events in Russia may have killed that.

Finland is now considering joining NATO. Apparently, Russia threatened war if they do that.

I hope the US is hard at work trying to create a 2nd Wave of Prometheism.

257 sagehen  Jul 2, 2014 9:20:14pm

re: #242 dog philosopher

reminds me of an antique joke:

“billy, where is the dutch border?”

“holland borders germany, belgium, and the north sea”

“good! and emmanuel, where is the romanian border?”

“he’s in the park kissing my mother”

“Has the iceman come yet?”
“No, but he’s breathing hard…”

258 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:20:30pm
259 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:21:45pm

re: #256 The War TARDIS

Yeah, I have to think recent events in Russia may have killed that.

Finland is now considering joining NATO. Apparently, Russia threatened war if they do that.

I hope the US is hard at work trying to create a 2nd Wave of Prometheism.

I believe economic interests are driving the idea of teaching Russian in the schools, and long term it might not be a bad idea. I really couldn’t say.

260 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:23:37pm

re: #259 calochortus

Thing is… Russians aren’t the ones having children in Russia. It is the Minorities. Like the Chechens, and others who have been persecuted.

261 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:25:40pm

re: #260 The War TARDIS

Thing is… Russians aren’t the ones having children in Russia. It is the Minorities. Like the Chechens, and others who have been persecuted.

Which is presumably why the Russians are worrying about their minorities. Kind of gives one faith in the similarities of all mankind…

262 calochortus  Jul 2, 2014 9:26:18pm

And on that note, I’ll say goodnight. Hasta mañana, lizards.

263 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:27:54pm

Madness.

264 The War TARDIS  Jul 2, 2014 9:29:30pm

re: #261 calochortus

I hope that history works out in the favor of Russia’s minorities.

265 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:29:45pm

re: #263 jaunte

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Madness.

Oh boy. The way these wingnuts use Jews to make their stupid arguments.

266 Kid A  Jul 2, 2014 9:31:49pm

re: #263 jaunte

Holy shit.

267 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:32:19pm

OMG.

268 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:33:09pm

re: #266 Kid A

He’s like a racist energizer bunny.

269 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:34:33pm
270 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 9:35:35pm

La*ti*no
noun lə-ˈtē-(ˌ)nō

: a person who was born or lives in South America, Central America, or Mexico or a person in the U.S. whose family is originally from South America, Central America, or Mexico

271 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:36:33pm

Murrieta, CA is named after a Basque.

272 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 9:36:57pm

re: #267 Gus

OMG.

not?

is there some excuse for an explanation attached to that opinion?

273 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:38:07pm

re: #272 dog philosopher

He thinks the Anglos and French that settled in North America weren’t ‘immigrants.’

274 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:38:46pm

“Our nation is a nation of immigrants. More than any other country, our strength comes from our own immigrant heritage and our capacity to welcome those from other lands.” - Ronald Reagan, July 30, 1981

275 Pip's Squeak  Jul 2, 2014 9:39:59pm

re: #188 The War TARDIS

Now part of the Netherlands and Germany, two of the nastiest anti-immigrant nations in Europe.

I think Netherlands, I think Geert Wilders.

This is true. On the other hand, Wilders is really not considered ‘salonfaehig’.

276 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 9:40:01pm

re: #273 jaunte

He thinks the Anglos and French that settled in North America weren’t ‘immigrants.’

um hmm

perhaps north america is just a part of france and england that got lost and wandered over to the other side of the ocean

277 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:43:14pm

Now he’s ragging about my missing last name. What a bozo.

278 jaunte  Jul 2, 2014 9:44:01pm

re: #276 dog philosopher

Dondero is just making that typical sleazy fatuous nativist distinction between “our noble nation-building forefathers” and “stinky, pushy, good-for-nothing, diseased newcomers.”
Only he goes so far as to only choose the Anglo-French in the first group, and puts all the rest of the world in the second.

279 CuriousLurker  Jul 2, 2014 9:49:26pm

re: #263 jaunte

re: #267 Gus

Ethnically cleanse whites & Jews? Why are racists & bigots always so ignorant? Guess he’s not aware that Monterrey, Mexico (along with other cities) was freaking founded by Sephardic Jews fleeing the Spanish Inquisition. In fact, you can find their descendants all through Central & South America as well, FFS.

Judaism in Mexico

A brief history of the Jews in Mexico

History of the Jews in Latin America and the Caribbean

In Latin America , Jewish communities are booming - JTA

Gawd, the stupid, it burns. Okay, that’s it—I’m gonna go to bed before I get so annoyed that I can’t sleep.

Later, lizards.

280 Pip's Squeak  Jul 2, 2014 9:51:04pm

re: #202 dog philosopher

the frisian form of dutch is supposed to be the closest language to english

Vis a vis Dutch Frisian is a separate language, just as Dutch is vis a vis German.

281 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 9:51:53pm
282 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 10:05:57pm
283 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 10:09:25pm
284 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 10:09:49pm

re: #267 Gus

I would say I’m surprised by some dipshit saying we’re not a nation of immigrants, but this is the modern GOP we’re talking about.

285 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 10:09:52pm

Out of sync here. Meant to post this one first.

286 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 10:12:52pm

Gawd these people are so hopeless.

287 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 10:13:52pm

re: #263 jaunte

I’ve hard that “I’m Latino — I’m Italian!” crap before, by similar bigots. Either they are truly ignorant of the meaning of “Latino,” or they’re trying to establish some kind of creds as a minority. FAIL

288 dog philosopher  Jul 2, 2014 10:18:06pm

yet again i’m effectively QA for this hapless software vendor

made sure the bug wasn’t my fault and sent them a detailed fucking diagnosis ok now i can go home

289 teleskiguy  Jul 2, 2014 10:21:19pm

Well, bedtime. 9 hour drive for 3 hours of music. I’m crazy, in a good way.

:-D

Nite Lizards.

290 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 10:28:28pm

It’s depressing how something so basic as America being a nation of immigrants is controversial. WTF.

These idiots need some Schoolhouse Rock:

Youtube Video

291 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 10:29:18pm
292 randymo1965  Jul 2, 2014 10:32:24pm

I came and looked at this guys blog because someone described it as a conservative site, maybe if you’re Pol Pot. I love the twisted way you idiots portray citizens who want to maintain sovereignty of their borders and country, while the commenters here sling ad hominem attacks all the while ironically calling the protesters dumb. At least they are perceptive enough and energized enough to do something to show their disgust with the MAJORITY view that we have enough illegals and calling these citizens names doesn’t change facts-so sorry bout your indoctrination most of you make good useful idiots for the press and the libs-, I’ll leave you idiots alone to stew in your own hypocrisy.
To you Charles Johnson you never were conservative to begin with but compared to some of your smarmy cousins maybe appeared so, good riddance.

293 Floral Giraffe  Jul 2, 2014 10:33:32pm

re: #292 randymo1965

And the plot thickens!
A hatchling & a flounce!

294 AntonSirius  Jul 2, 2014 10:36:06pm

re: #267 Gus

OMG.

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Ronald Reagan, 1982:

Much has been said over the years about the diversity of the American people and the vitality and resilience of the American character. Well, that character isn’t centered around any one religious denomination — for in our country there are many religions; everyone has a right to worship God as he or she chooses. It isn’t based on any one ethnic group or race — for our people come in all shades and shapes, and we remain dedicated to the proposition that all of them are created equal.

or perhaps you’d prefer:

God must have placed this land here between the oceans to be found by a certain kind of people and a kind only in one thing: that whatever corner of the world they came from, they had the courage — and the desire for freedom that went with it — to uproot themselves and come to this strange land, beginning back when it was the most underdeveloped land in the world, and come here leaving family and come to a strange language and everything that went with that kind of a move.

295 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2014 10:38:10pm

re: #180 Lidane

Oh fuck him.

I mean, really? What kind of stupid argument is he making here? That other immigrants aren’t valid?

I think it’s ironic this is all happening mere days before July 4. You know, that day every year that we celebrate how awesome America is and how proud we are of American values?

I might have come here legally, but it was a hard choice to make. It’s not exactly easy to uproot oneself from everything you’ve ever known and then go to a strange new place and basically start an entire new life.

I consider myself lucky. I was welcomed by new family and the church I joined. I’ve made a lot of good friends down here who accept me for who I am and think it’s cool I’m Canadian.

But I can’t help but wonder. What if I didn’t have white skin? What if I spoke Spanish or Arabic or Japanese? Would I be treated differently? Would I still be as accepted? I think honestly the answer is no.

One thing that has been painfully obvious to me since arriving in America six years ago is how politically polarized and misguided this country is.

People on both sides love to talk about how America is the greatest, most awesome nation on all of the earth. Now don’t get me wrong, this is a great country, but we’ve still got a long way to go in many important areas and, in the eyes of many both outside and inside our borders, we are anything but “exceptional”.

These protesters have no freaking clue what these kids are running away from. I bet if they spent one day with the Guatemalan street gangs they’d be begging to come back to America.

This is a multinational struggle that goes way beyond any one country, border or people.

I think we’ve forgotten how to see each other as human. It’s so easy to make distinctions and draw lines when in reality we are far more equal than most of us realize.

This is a battle that shouldn’t be fought with fences, drones and heavily armed agents. It’s battle that should be fought with hearts and minds.

There was a man who lived a long time ago in Israel who had this crazy idea about what might happen if we loved each other a little more.

Perhaps we should think of giving that a try someday. I’m certain the results would amaze everyone.

296 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 10:38:23pm

re: #292 randymo1965

Youtube Video

297 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 10:40:26pm

re: #292 randymo1965

I came and looked at this guys blog because someone described it as a conservative site, maybe if you’re Pol Pot. I love the twisted way you idiots portray citizens who want to maintain sovereignty of their borders and country, while the commenters here sling ad hominem attacks all the while ironically calling the protesters dumb. At least they are perceptive enough and energized enough to do something to show their disgust with the MAJORITY view that we have enough illegals and calling these citizens names doesn’t change facts-so sorry bout your indoctrination most of you make good useful idiots for the press and the libs-, I’ll leave you idiots alone to stew in your own hypocrisy.
To you Charles Johnson you never were conservative to begin with but compared to some of your smarmy cousins maybe appeared so, good riddance.

So, are you a native American? You probably aren’t, so that means your family were immigrants at one time. From the Native’s perspective, we’re all illegals.

Do you understand that the protesters were preventing the Border Police from doing their job of sending these people back to their homelands? In other words, they were obstructing federal officers from doing their job. I suppose that’s perfectly OK in your mind.

Do you have any evidence to support the claim that it is a MAJORITY view that we have too many illegals? For your information, certain segments of American business depend on undocumented workers, who work for less than minimum wage and no benefits at jobs most documented Americans wouldn’t touch with a ten-foot pole. Ship all those undocumented workers home, and watch your produce prices soar.

298 AntonSirius  Jul 2, 2014 10:40:27pm

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

There was a man who lived a long time ago in Israel who had this crazy idea about what might happen if we loved each other a little more.

“And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change…”

299 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2014 10:41:53pm

You know, this almost makes me want to cry. Seriously.

This is not the America I believe in. It’s not the America I got excited about coming to 8 years ago.

And whatever this is, I don’t like it. We need to seriously look at ourselves in the mirror and make changes. NOW. Not months from now, not years from now, but NOW.

I want the America where people are free to be what they want to be, I want the America that welcomes children with open arms, I want the America where every person is treated with dignity and respect. I want the America where people from many different races can come together for a background barbecue on July 4.

Where has that America gone I wonder?

300 AntonSirius  Jul 2, 2014 10:43:08pm

re: #292 randymo1965

I came and looked at this guys blog because someone described it as a conservative site

Mostly, it’s a site for people capable of thinking for themselves.

It’s no wonder you fled in terror. I mean, for all you know thinking might be contagious.

301 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 10:43:15pm

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

There was a man who lived a long time ago in Israel who had this crazy idea about what might happen if we loved each other a little more.

Crazy idea. it’ll never catch on.

//

302 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 10:44:47pm

re: #300 AntonSirius

Thinking is dangerous. Just obey, and everything will be fine.

//

303 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 10:46:46pm

The assholes are out tonight.

304 Lidane  Jul 2, 2014 10:48:02pm

re: #299 Eclectic Cyborg

Where has that America gone I wonder?

That America died when the ni-CLANG got elected President! We need a white Republican in office to restore the country!

No sarc. That’s what these assholes think.

305 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 10:48:41pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

Are we expected to get any more drive-by soreheads?

306 Floral Giraffe  Jul 2, 2014 10:49:12pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

The assholes are out tonight.

Rally in Murietta must be over…

307 Gus  Jul 2, 2014 10:51:31pm

re: #303 Charles Johnson

The assholes are out tonight.

Doing good here. Sorry to hear about that! Weirdness.

308 TedStriker  Jul 2, 2014 10:52:12pm

re: #306 Floral Giraffe

Rally in Murietta must be over…

Funny…I would have thought they would be having some good ol’ cross burnings right about now.

309 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 10:52:38pm

re: #304 Lidane

That America died when the ni-CLANG got elected President! We need a white Republican in office to restore the country!

No sarc. That’s what these assholes think.

Sadly, yes.

My parents were not completely free of prejudice against African-Americans, bless their hearts, but I think even they would admire Obama and rejoice that a regular kid could grow up to be president.

Hell, my mom liked Bill Clinton even after the Lewinski affair. She said it was all a put-up job, and people were just picking on Clinton for being a Democrat. Mom was 80 at the time.

310 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 10:54:52pm

That one has registered two previous accounts at LGF. Glenn Beck fan, climate change denier, you know the drill.

For some reason these dimwits always try to pretend they’re just coming here for the first time.

311 TedStriker  Jul 2, 2014 10:59:29pm

re: #310 Charles Johnson

That one has registered two previous accounts at LGF. Glenn Beck fan, climate change denier, you know the drill.

For some reason these dimwits always try to pretend they’re just coming here for the first time.

Ahhh, the “long time lurker, first time poster” shtick, especially when it becomes obvious that they are getting too familiar with some Lizards right out of the gate.

312 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 11:04:20pm

re: #305 wheat-dogghazi

Are we expected to get any more drive-by soreheads?

Wouldn’t be a surprise. Whenever there’s a big public display of racism they get excited.

313 TedStriker  Jul 2, 2014 11:07:57pm

re: #299 Eclectic Cyborg

You know, this almost makes me want to cry. Seriously.

This is not the America I believe in. It’s not the America I got excited about coming to 8 years ago.

And whatever this is, I don’t like it. We need to seriously look at ourselves in the mirror and make changes. NOW. Not months from now, not years from now, but NOW.

I want the America where people are free to be what they want to be, I want the America that welcomes children with open arms, I want the America where every person is treated with dignity and respect. I want the America where people from many different races can come together for a background barbecue on July 4.

Where has that America gone I wonder?

Still alive and well in many places, but that doesn’t always sell well in today’s media.

Don’t lose hope, because then the fuckheads win.

314 Cheechako  Jul 2, 2014 11:09:19pm

re: #201 wheat-dogghazi

If your students are in the vicinity of Shoshoni, Wyoming have them stop by the Shoshoni Drugstore for a real American treat. The Shoshoni Drugstore makes the best milk-shakes I’ve ever had. Whole milk and real ice cream blended so thick you need a spoon to enjoy it. Their shakes are so thick it’s impossible to suck it up with a straw. A real surprise out in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming!

315 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 11:20:13pm

re: #314 Cheechako

If your students are in the vicinity of Shoshoni, Wyoming have them stop by the Shoshoni Drugstore for a real American treat. The Shoshoni Drugstore makes the best milk-shakes I’ve ever had. Whole milk and real ice cream blended so thick you need a spoon to enjoy it. Their shakes are so thick it’s impossible to suck it up with a straw. A real surprise out in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming!

Thanks for the tip, but they’re now in Buffalo.

I had heard of the Shoshoni Drugstore, now that you mention it. Slipped my mind till now, though.

My student, Lily, was originally supposed to work in Lander. That job went sour after a week, so she found work in Buffalo but the trick was how to get to Buffalo from Lander. There is a bus, but it stops in Shoshoni and takes eons to reach Buffalo because it either passes through Billings or Denver on the way.

Anyway, she got to her destination. Her classmate Jacob somehow ended up in Sheridan and had to wait for another bus to reach Buffalo. It’s been a learning experience for both of them.

316 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 2, 2014 11:21:40pm

You genealogists may be interested to know that ancestry.com is offering free access to US Census records through July 6. I know how I’ll be spending my time these next few days! I got some mysteries to solve.

317 Charles Johnson  Jul 2, 2014 11:22:37pm

Yup, I’m the psychopath - not the right wingers screaming hatred at frightened children. Me.

318 Cheechako  Jul 2, 2014 11:31:48pm

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi

Buffalo is a nice Wyoming small town. My wife and I considered moving there for retirement but real estate prices were out of this world. My son worked on a dude ranch just west of Buffalo for a summer several years ago. That’s how we discovered the town.

319 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 2, 2014 11:40:53pm

re: #292 randymo1965

I see you’ve already been aborted. Good.

320 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 2, 2014 11:43:25pm

Fox appropriating the BSI logo is like the phenomenon of the neo-Nazis appropriating the “Tomorrow belongs to me” slogan and praising the song itself (seen quite a lot of that).

Youtube Video

321 Snarknado!  Jul 2, 2014 11:46:13pm

re: #315 wheat-dogghazi

Thanks for the tip, but they’re now in Buffalo.

I had heard of the Shoshoni Drugstore, now that you mention it. Slipped my mind till now, though.

Make sure they’re not lactose-intolerant before you send them there (ice cream plus cream would be a recipe for disaster for many of my Asian acquaintances).

322 Swift2991  Jul 2, 2014 11:46:39pm

re: #312 Charles Johnson

But they’re not racist! It’s your fault! You’re a racist!

To prove it, the guy says, “If it was a white Swede here illegally, he’d be just as angry!” Yeah, right. Of course he would.

323 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 2, 2014 11:49:25pm

re: #322 Swift2991

But they’re not racist! It’s your fault! You’re a racist!

To prove it, the guy says, “If it was a white Swede here illegally, he’d be just as angry!” Yeah, right. Of course he would.

Reminds me of how John Derbyshire, a racist anti-immigrant writer, initially was an illegal immigrant himself.

324 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 3, 2014 12:47:38am

Next up on the GOP agenda: SAY NO TO TOURISTS! Especially the brown ones.

325 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 1:02:14am

re: #324 GlutenFreeJesus

Next up on the GOP agenda: SAY NO TO TOURISTS! Especially the brown ones.

I’m waiting for the inevitable lawsuits demanding a religious exemption from hiring non-Christians and non-whites. You know it’s just a matter of time.

326 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 1:45:00am

re: #321 Snarknado!

Make sure they’re not lactose-intolerant before you send them there (ice cream plus cream would be a recipe for disaster for many of my Asian acquaintances).

I have photographic evidence that Lily loves ice cream — eats it straight from the half-gallon carton.

327 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 2:06:53am

Does anybody remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? And not the butt-sex aspect that Bryan Fischer and his buddies are fixated on. but the part about being callous and unwelcoming to strangers in need of aid?

328 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 3, 2014 2:13:00am

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t think “being callous and unwelcoming to strangers” anywhere nearly describes the said story. You can be all that and still not cause them harm directly. The story is about the punishment for actively wanting to bring physical harm to someone, stranger or not.

329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 2:17:01am

re: #61 SteveMcGazi

I registered R in 1980 because the Dems of the day were a lot like these right wing clowns of today. In 1980 the Republican Party was the party of pragmatism (although I knew even then what the Dixiecrats were going to do to it eventually). I think you still could have made that statement as late as 1990, but certainly by 1994, the party was already looking for a shark to jump.

I registered Republican in 1980 because I still tended to vote for individual candidates, although usually defaulted to Democrats in question and wanted to be able to influence Republican primary voting (AZ was a closed primary state).

I am still registered Republican although I have not voted for one in a general election since 2000…

330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 2:22:15am

re: #328 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Thanks for filling me in on the rest of the story, I really only know that the butt-sex aspect of S & G was just a side note that was blown out of proportion by homophobes.

I am reminded of an event in the recently-opened East Germany around 1990 when a group of Third-World refugees was sent to a facility in Hoyerswerda by federal authorities. Right-wing radicals threw firebombs while a crowd stood by and cheered.

These people had never had to deal with immigrant refugees at all in the old East Germany, only the occasional African student, or Vietnamese or North Korean guest worker. They saw the refugees as a serious imposition.

331 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 3, 2014 2:33:05am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Thanks for filling me in on the rest of the story, I really only know that the butt-sex aspect of S & G was just a side note that was blown out of proportion by homophobes.

True. It’s as if they are saying that if it were heterosexual attempted rape, it would’ve been much better.

332 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 2:36:55am

re: #331 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

True. It’s as if they are saying that if it were heterosexual attempted rape, it would’ve been much better.

Given their attitude toward female rape victims, I’m sure that’s part of their rationalization.

333 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 3:00:11am

All this over a brightly colored wrapper for a burger:

The comments are exactly as derpy as you’d expect.

334 CBWill  Jul 3, 2014 3:42:36am

What I find interesting is that the city is named after a Spanish immigrant. I wonder when all of these whack jobs will start demanding that all cities with Spanish names be renamed and don’t forget about Florida.

335 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 3:50:34am

re: #334 CBWill

What I find interesting is that the city is named after a Spanish immigrant. I wonder when all of these whack jobs will start demanding that all cities with Spanish names be renamed and don’t forget about Florida.

Appropriating another culture for your own ends is fine and dandy if you’re white.

336 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 3:53:40am

re: #334 CBWill

California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Florida — have to rename them, too

337 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 4:23:14am

75 mph winds, Arthur is now a Category 1 Hurricane.

338 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:24:08am
339 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:24:44am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

Woops! Twice warned, though. : )

340 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 4:27:55am
341 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:36:34am

Tourists: If you’re not going to help with the cleanup post-Arthur, stay away from the NC coast. You’ll just get in the way.

Rubber-neckers and thrill seekers not wanted.

342 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:38:20am

Reports: US embassy has been warned of a specific threat to attack Entebbe International Airport in Uganda today - @cnni, @ABC
see original on twitter.com

343 Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2014 4:42:15am

re: #342 Justanotherhuman

Reports: US embassy has been warned of a specific threat to attack Entebbe International Airport in Uganda today - @cnni, @ABC
see original on twitter.com

Entebbe? Haven’t we already been through that one? Jeez, now we are recycling terrorists attacks.

344 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:45:23am

re: #343 Eventual Carrion

Entebbe? Haven’t we already been through that one? Jeez, now we are recycling terrorists attacks.

Well, at least Idi Amin is dead and can’t welcome current terrorists.

345 Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2014 4:46:21am

re: #343 Eventual Carrion

Entebbe? Haven’t we already been through that one? Jeez, now we are recycling terrorists attacks.

New terrorist group called ‘Al Nostalgia’.

346 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:54:31am

US Warned Of Terror Threat To Ugandan Airport

uk.news.yahoo.com

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“The US embassy in Kampala said Ugandan police had informed them that intelligence sources believe there is a threat to the airport from an unknown terrorist group.

“In a statement the embassy said the threat was apparently aimed for “today, July 3rd, between the hours of 2100-2300”.

“It added: “Individuals planning travel through the airport this evening may want to review their plans in light of this information.” More

347 Decatur Deb  Jul 3, 2014 4:55:29am

The freak flags were really out last night. It’s important not to be overwhelmed by the derp du jour. America has a long way to go, but we’re probably half way to where we want to be. My town hasn’t had a lynching in at least 15 years.

348 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 4:57:04am

For those unfamiliar w/NC, Wrightsville Beach is east of Wilmington and over 200 miles from the Outer Banks.

349 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2014 4:58:26am

Someone want to tell the RWNJs that there have been Hispanics in what is now the United States before there was an United States?

350 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 5:00:24am

re: #349 Timothy Watson

Someone want to tell the RWNJs that there have been Hispanics in what is now the United States before there was an United States?

You’d think the only colonialists on the North American continent were Anglo-Saxons, wouldn’t you?

351 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 5:00:56am

Winds now 80 mph

352 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 5:10:18am

re: #349 Timothy Watson

Someone want to tell the RWNJs that there have been Hispanics in what is now the United States before there was an United States?

LIES! The only parts of America that existed back then were the ones with white people! Everything else was a savage wasteland!

/////////

353 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 5:12:37am

The grift is on:

354 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 5:15:55am

re: #353 Lidane

The grift is on:

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IOW, I need to pay my mortgage.

355 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 5:21:51am

re: #353 Lidane

The grift is on:

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Heh. The wingnuts are master grifters, I’ll say that for them.

Even Freeperville has another grift-o-thon going.

356 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 5:22:17am

re: #353 Lidane

The grift is on:

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I have already seen Tweets from Bryan Fischer and Matt Barber shilling for the grifter. Maybe they are getting a cut?

357 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 5:24:11am

Why do wingnuts suck so hard at “analogies”

358 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 5:26:09am

re: #357 Pie-onist Overlord

Why do wingnuts suck so hard at “analogies”

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Amy and Holly are Exhibits A and B of “dumb women”.

359 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 5:28:20am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amy and Holly are Exhibits A and B of “dumb women”.

Janie Johnson is their mentor. (I blocked & muted her so I don’t see the tsunami of Derp that is scheduled to auto-spam every hour)

360 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 5:30:34am
361 Romantic Heretic  Jul 3, 2014 5:33:28am

re: #261 calochortus

Which is presumably why the Russians are worrying about their minorities. Kind of gives one faith in the similarities of all mankind…

Unfortunately the similarity is to create differences where none exist…

𠉪nd then hate the others for being that way.

362 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 5:34:43am

Speaking of grifters, Greensnow is all over the place this morning. WTF is this supposed to mean, for instance.

I’ll bet The Intercept will never be a viable online presence.

363 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 5:37:56am
364 andres  Jul 3, 2014 5:38:52am

re: #357 Pie-onist Overlord

Why do wingnuts suck so hard at “analogies”

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Actually, the last analogy has a few legs. By following that analogy, what the disaster known as Hobby Lobby really means is that her employer can choose which clothes she can buy and use at all times[1] with the money she earned.

But this analogy would be lost in them.

————————
[1] Not limit her wardrobe for work, but her life after work.

365 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 5:39:07am

Louis Zamperini Dies; War Hero Served as Inspiration for Angelina Jolie’s ‘Unbroken’

variety.com

(snip)

“Zamperini competed in the 1936 Berlin Olympics as a distance runner and went on to fight in WWII as an Air Force bombardier and a POW after he survived a crash in shark-infested waters in the Pacific.

“Having overcome insurmountable odds at every turn in his life, Olympic runner and World War II hero Louis Zamperini has never broken down from a challenge,” the family said in a statement. “He recently faced the greatest challenge of his life with a life-threatening case of pneumonia. After a 40-day long battle for his life, he peacefully passed away in the presence of his entire family, leaving behind a legacy that has touched so many lives. His indomitable courage and fighting spirit were never more apparent than in these last days.” More

366 Romantic Heretic  Jul 3, 2014 5:40:21am

re: #292 randymo1965

Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

367 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 5:43:07am

We have been so overwhelmed by Teh Derp that I almost missed this Arkenturd of Derp:

Oh yes the CEO who fucked up not one but TWO major corporations wants you to know how the “free market” is raising wages in Williston, North Dakota. What’s not mentioned is that Williston is in a boom phase, where cost of living in that shithole is higher than New York or LA, so a Walmart employee earning $17/hr is the equivalent of a Walmart employee in New York earning $7.25/hr.

368 andres  Jul 3, 2014 5:44:53am

re: #177 Lidane

Oh god yes. There are very real differences between the Spanish spoken in Mexico and other countries in Latin America. Slang, word choice, even tenses all come into play. You could give the same paragraph to three people from three different countries (say, Mexico, Argentina, and Nicaragua) and tell them to translate it and you’d have three different translations.

Sure, it would all be in Spanish, but you’d see the subtle differences in how it’s spoken across Latin America.

Heck, go to 5 random towns in Puerto Rico and ask how the 5 cent and 10 cent coins are called. You’ll get at least that many answers as you visit towns.

369 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 5:46:23am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

Heh. The wingnuts are master grifters, I’ll say that for them.

Even Freeperville has another grift-o-thon going.

They know they have a ready-made base of marks to grift. Package some hate and wrap it in a red, white and blue bow and sell.

370 Romantic Heretic  Jul 3, 2014 5:50:18am

re: #320 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

My favourite version of that song.

Youtube Video

371 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 5:51:23am

Worst economy ever?

Unemployment rate nationally drops to 6.1% as 288,000 jobs added. Stock market indices are at or near all time highs. Corporate profits continue to show strength.

The sour spot is the one that most people feel most acutely. Wages. They just aren’t keeping up.

372 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 5:54:21am

re: #371 lawhawk

Worst economy ever?

Unemployment rate nationally drops to 6.1% as 288,000 jobs added. Stock market indices are at or near all time highs. Corporate profits continue to show strength.

The sour spot is the one that most people feel most acutely. Wages. They just aren’t keeping up.

373 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 5:55:20am

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

We have been so overwhelmed by Teh Derp that I almost missed this Arkenturd of Derp:

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Oh yes the CEO who fucked up not one but TWO major corporations wants you to know how the “free market” is raising wages in Williston, North Dakota. What’s not mentioned is that Williston is in a boom phase, where cost of living in that shithole is higher than New York or LA, so a Walmart employee earning $17/hr is the equivalent of a Walmart employee in New York earning $7.25/hr.

Well, it is becoming obvious Carly only messed up those two corporations because she had to pay the employees a decent wage. If she could have cut everyone to 5$ an hour they’d be going really strong yet today!

/

374 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 6:01:48am

re: #334 CBWill

What I find interesting is that the city is named after a Spanish immigrant. I wonder when all of these whack jobs will start demanding that all cities with Spanish names be renamed and don’t forget about Florida.

There will be a riot when the various groups fight over who gets to name their town after St Raygun.

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 6:03:21am

re: #348 Justanotherhuman

For those unfamiliar w/NC, Wrightsville Beach is east of Wilmington and over 200 miles from the Outer Banks.

That’s roughly where my niece is right now.

376 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 6:07:31am

Maybe those employers should look at the (probably inadequate) compensation being offered for those jobs.

377 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 3, 2014 6:07:46am

re: #367 Pie-onist Overlord

Four.

Lucent.
Compaq.
Bought and destroyed DEC.
HP.
And got a golden parachute for her destruction. Can we name a hurricane after her?

378 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:09:33am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe those employers should look at the (probably inadequate) compensation being offered for those jobs.

No they want more “guest worker” visas.

379 Mike Lamb  Jul 3, 2014 6:09:45am

re: #357 Pie-onist Overlord

Why do wingnuts suck so hard at “analogies”

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I think Ms. Mek wins the gold medal here.

380 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 6:10:29am

re: #378 Pie-onist Overlord

No they want more “guest worker” visas.

Or “interns”.

381 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 6:12:00am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe those employers should look at the (probably inadequate) compensation being offered for those jobs.

Free Market solution: Make people pay more for college and job training!!!

382 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 6:15:16am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe those employers should look at the (probably inadequate) compensation being offered for those jobs.

Compensation is seriously a joke. Nobody wants to pay for qualified work. I have an interview this morning for what this company calls a “Business Development Consultant” but the job description feels like a call center gig. If they deign to hire me, I’d be given a mandated schedule and an hourly wage. And the pay is laughable. If the number the recruiter gave me is accurate it’s flat out insulting.

Still, I need the work since other employers have either told me I’m seriously overqualified and I’d end up bored in a month or that I need to go and get another degree before I get hired. Ugh.

383 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 6:16:38am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe those employers should look at the (probably inadequate) compensation being offered for those jobs.

Probably the majority only require a breathing human anyway.

384 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 6:19:11am

re: #382 Lidane

They all seem to know you so well for being a stranger to them, don’t they?

385 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:19:27am

Nice job, Faux News, with the “fair and balanced” thing. /

386 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:20:30am
To make things even weirder, Fox News blatantly stole their logo from the video game Bioshock Infinite, a game about a perverse right wing world where racists are in charge:

A harmless coincidence I’m sure. ////

387 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:21:34am

Dear Faux, is it still Defending the Homeland if the unarmed children and families are detoured to some other facility in the U.S.?

388 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 6:23:27am

re: #377 William Barnett-Lewis

Four.

Lucent.
Compaq.
Bought and destroyed DEC.
HP.
And got a golden parachute for her destruction. Can we name a hurricane after her?

If you see her name associated with any corporation, steer clear if you’re thinking of buying for the long term. Short? Absolutely.

She’s got awful business sense; she pushed for the AT&T spinoff of LU, which might have been great as a short term boost to AT&T stock, but was a disaster for both companies in the long term.

The Compaq merger was a mess that ruined both companies and their related product lines and to compound that, she wanted to buy the tech spinoff from PwC for $14 billion. IBM ended up buying it for $4 billion.

Safe to say, I’m not a fan. And that’s not counting her political endeavors.

389 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 6:24:08am
390 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:24:44am

re:
#15

Kids. These people were acting like that in front of a bunch of scared children.
Children.
Traumatizing already scared kids, that’s your today’s GOP.

But theyll stay and spread disease and become Democrat Party voters VOTER FRAUD and WELFARES@!!!!111

391 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 6:25:19am

re: #387 Bulworth

Is it Defending the Homeland when you deny the DHS the ability to process those folks on the buses, which is the first step towards deportation?

Yes, the process is cumbersome and deportation isn’t assured because of lack of resources to track down those folks after processing, but it’s still the first step. These so called defenders of the homeland thwarted that first step, meaning that far from defending it, they’ve undermined it.

Good job. They serve their GOP masters well.

392 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 6:25:39am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

No joke, FOX just put up a 12.1% unemployment graphic and started talking about the poll where people wished they elected Romney

unskewered statistics!

393 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 6:26:31am

re: #391 lawhawk

if we had a electric fence with a crocodile-filled moat, this problem would not have arisen in the first place

394 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:26:54am

re:
#389

That’s an important poll because whenever a majority in some random poll indicates they wished the loser in the last election was pres instead then that person automatically becomes president. It’s in the Constitution. Look it up four urselves I don’t have time to do ur research for you!!!111

395 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:28:45am

re:
#389

I’m sure that 12% unemployment rate is the TRUE unemployment rate if you only look at a certain section of the country or only count certain people or in a particular occupation. ///

396 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:29:54am

re:
#389

Maybe the 12% unemployment rate is among devoted Faux News viewers. Hey I’m just asking questions……

397 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 6:29:55am
398 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:30:01am

Once again, the sun has risen (arisen?)

It seems nice outside, thru my window at least. They agree.

Allergies, as usual, suck.

Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 07/03/2014

*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
*********************************
Trees: Absent
Weeds: Low Concentration
Grass: Moderate Concentration
Mold: Moderate Concentration

you?

399 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 6:30:38am
400 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:32:58am

re: #397 Lidane

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HURR HURR LIBRUL LIES!!!!! REAGAN CREATED TEH MOAST JRRBS OF ANY PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!

Bill Clinton created more jobs than Reagan.

401 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 6:35:15am
402 nsmith25  Jul 3, 2014 6:35:39am

re: #397 Lidane

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WORST SOCIALIST EVAH!!!

403 nsmith25  Jul 3, 2014 6:36:31am
404 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 6:37:31am

re: #395 Bulworth

re:
#389

I’m sure that 12% unemployment rate is the TRUE unemployment rate if you only look at a certain section of the country or only count certain people or in a particular occupation. ///

Well, we are supposed to officially have a 10% unemployment rate in this county, but it’s run by Republicans, so no surprise there.

405 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 3, 2014 6:37:35am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

if we had a electric fence with a crocodile-filled moat, this problem would not have arisen in the first place

We need an electric barbed wire fence with a moat of boiling oil, with robo-crocs, with lazers. /////

RBS

406 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 6:38:09am

re: #403 nsmith25

SOSHULIST TYRANEE!

407 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:38:59am
408 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 6:39:39am

re: #403 nsmith25

Dow hits 17,000 mark at the open as stocks rally after a strong June jobs report. cnnmon.ie

Obama didn’t make that.

//// FOX perspective

409 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 6:39:56am

re: #405 RealityBasedSteve

We need an electric barbed wire fence with a moat of boiling oil, with robo-crocs, with lazers. /////

RBS

and sharks with lasers to defend the coastline!

410 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 6:40:38am

Please proceed:

411 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 6:41:34am

re: #403 nsmith25

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I don’t think this is much to crow about when wages haven’t kept up and the wealth gap widens.

Pretty soon it will have tripled over Sept 2008 when it was 6,800.

So, someone is getting rich but it isn’t working people.

412 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:42:51am

413 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 6:43:17am

re: #410 Lidane

Please proceed:

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Gah! I wouldn’t buy a used car from Mitt. And that image just shows his slimy slickness.

414 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:43:47am

re: #410 Lidane

Please proceed:

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415 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 6:43:59am

From CNN

It’s the fifth straight month that employers have added at least 200,000 jobs. The last time that happened was in late 1999, as the dot-com bubble was inflating.

Hurr hurr BUBBLE!!!!!!111 Skewed!!11

416 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 6:46:14am

Hitting HRC for speaking fees? How about hitting the University for spending crazy money on athletics (including paying the coaches more than other public officials in the state) while academics (the real reason for there being universities in the first place) lag, and costs rise as states shed their support for state colleges and push the burden on to the students.

The $251,000 speaking fee is high, but is it out of line with other major speakers at colleges and other forums? Don’t think so. But since it’s HRC, the right thinks that this is out of line. Moreover, isn’t it the free market at work where she’s getting what the market for speaking will bear? Isn’t that what they’re always crowing about - that the market should be respected?

Guess that the market doesn’t apply to Hillary.

Pay millions of dollars to a coach of a school’s sports team and don’t say a word, but a speaking fee gets ink? Gotcha. It’s priorities - namely - Must. Stop. Hillary.

417 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:46:38am

418 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:47:13am

re: #416 lawhawk

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Hitting HRC for speaking fees? How about hitting the University for spending crazy money on athletics (including paying the coaches more than other public officials in the state) while academics (the real reason for there being universities in the first place) lag, and costs rise as states shed their support for state colleges and push the burden on to the students.

The $251,000 speaking fee is high, but is it out of line with other major speakers at colleges and other forums? Don’t think so. But since it’s HRC, the right thinks that this is out of line. Moreover, isn’t it the free market at work where she’s getting what the market for speaking will bear? Isn’t that what they’re always crowing about - that the market should be respected?

Guess that the market doesn’t apply to Hillary.

Pay millions of dollars to a coach of a school’s sports team and don’t say a word, but a speaking fee gets ink? Gotcha. It’s priorities - namely - Must. Stop. Hillary.

Well, she is just a woman

419 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:49:23am

Sign if you wish.

420 b.d.  Jul 3, 2014 6:49:50am

MY COMMUTE INTO WORK IS TAKING LONGER NOW THANKS TO ALL OF THESE NEWLY EMPLOYEED DEADBEATS. INPEACH! ALL OF THESE PEOPLE NOW HAVING TO DRIVE INTO WORK IS CONTRIBUTING TO GLOBAL WARMING, EVER THINK ABOUT THAT LIBTARDS!?!?

421 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 6:51:26am

re: #398 FemNaziBitch

Once again, the sun has risen (arisen?)

It seems nice outside, thru my window at least. They agree.

Allergies, as usual, suck.

you?

Temps dropped from 95F to 75F overnight. (Two big drops of 6 degrees and then 7 degrees as the front came through.) Should go back up to 90 F by this afternoon. Mold counts up, but everything else down due to the rain last night.

Feline overlords like watching rain hitting the windows. Thunder and lightning, not so much.

Also slept well since two berlinerweisse at a happy hour went down very nicely.

422 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 6:52:01am

re: #420 b.d.

MY COMMUTE INTO WORK IS TAKING LONGER NOW THANKS TO ALL OF THESE NEWLY EMPLOYEED DEADBEATS. INPEACH! ALL OF THESE PEOPLE NOW HAVING TO DRIVE INTO WORK IS CONTRIBUTING TO GLOBAL WARMING, EVER THINK ABOUT THAT LIBTARDS!?!?

Are you kidding? They would never consider global warming an issue to crow over when they’re driving their Tahoes and Expeditions on their 100 mi commutes every day.

Some people around here even still have their Hummers. With the Bush/Cheney stickers.

423 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 6:52:09am

re: #405 RealityBasedSteve

We need an electric barbed wire fence with a moat of boiling oil, with robo-crocs, with lazers. /////

RBS

I’ll settle for flying cuttlefish with electrified tentacles.

424 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 6:52:39am

re: #416 lawhawk

Reading this WaPo article, it seems her fees at several schools were paid from donations or fundraisers, not from the universities’ operating budgets. Ihttp://washingtonpost.com

Still, I wonder if people are making a deal about this because (a) she’s a potential presidential candidate and (b) she’s a she. Would they get as upset were the speaker, say, a white Republican man?

425 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:52:46am

HURR HURR!!!! UR JUST A LIBTURD ALL UNEMPLOYED & LIVIN IT UP ON TEH WELFARES!!!!!

426 b.d.  Jul 3, 2014 6:53:10am

re: #403 nsmith25

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I have a wingut sales rep that comes by and he is royally pissed that he listened to the wingnut talking heads and took his money out of the stock market because Obama was going collapse the economy. I think there must be a lot of people like him that we don’t hear about.

427 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 6:54:10am

re: #425 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! UR JUST A LIBTURD ALL UNEMPLOYED & LIVIN IT UP ON TEH WELFARES!!!!!

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Her next tweet: “You don’t have the right to exist.”

428 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 6:54:23am

re: #416 lawhawk

Hitting HRC for speaking fees? How about hitting the University for spending crazy money on athletics (including paying the coaches more than other public officials in the state) while academics (the real reason for there being universities in the first place) lag, and costs rise as states shed their support for state colleges and push the burden on to the students.

The $251,000 speaking fee is high, but is it out of line with other major speakers at colleges and other forums? Don’t think so. But since it’s HRC, the right thinks that this is out of line. Moreover, isn’t it the free market at work where she’s getting what the market for speaking will bear? Isn’t that what they’re always crowing about - that the market should be respected?

Guess that the market doesn’t apply to Hillary.

Pay millions of dollars to a coach of a school’s sports team and don’t say a word, but a speaking fee gets ink? Gotcha. It’s priorities - namely - Must. Stop. Hillary.

Fun thing to watch around these parts (PA) is the various alumni of a certain university politicking against certain trustees since they voted to fire a football coach.

429 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:54:41am

HURR HURR UR NOT ENTITLED TO A JRRB OR ANY BENEFITS, IF UR BOSS FEELS LIKE PAYING U OUT OF TEH GOODNESS OF HIS HEART TAKE IT U WORTHLESS MOOCHER!!!!!!

430 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:55:22am

Holy shit, human beings are nothing but a “business expense”

431 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 6:55:30am

re: #426 b.d.

I have a wingut sales rep that comes by and he is royally pissed that he listened to the wingnut talking heads and took his money out of the stock market because Obama was going collapse the economy. I think there must be a lot of people like him that we don’t hear about.

You might leave a chart lying around showing how the stock market has performed over the last several administrations, for his next visit. I think he’ll find the market has done better during Democratic administration more often than during GOP administrations.

432 Timothy Watson  Jul 3, 2014 6:56:46am

re: #397 Lidane

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And almost all the growth has been in the private sector, while the public sector continues to shrink.

433 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:56:48am

Sign if you wish (different from #419)

434 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:57:36am
435 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 6:57:45am

heh…

436 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 6:58:13am

Darleen is too stupid to Tweet.

437 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 6:58:14am

re: #425 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! UR JUST A LIBTURD ALL UNEMPLOYED & LIVIN IT UP ON TEH WELFARES!!!!!

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In theory …

Which is what so many Whackos live by.

No acknowledgment of facts or reality.

438 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 6:58:16am

re: #431 wheat-dogghazi

You might leave a chart lying around showing how the stock market has performed over the last several administrations, for his next visit. I think he’ll find the market has done better during Democratic administration more often than during GOP administrations.

And I partially believe that part of the reason the market contracts during GOP administrations is that they cut capital gains rates and fearmonger about Dems raising them. So people bail when they fear a change of party since the short term move *is* to bail so as to lock in gains and get them cashed out under a lower tax rate. Sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy thing where claiming doom and gloom is coming triggers the drop in value.

439 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 6:58:52am
440 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:00:06am

441 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 7:00:31am

re: #424 wheat-dogghazi

Reading this WaPo article, it seems her fees at several schools were paid from donations or fundraisers, not from the universities’ operating budgets. Ihttp://washingtonpost.com

Still, I wonder if people are making a deal about this because (a) she’s a potential presidential candidate and (b) she’s a she. Would they get as upset were the speaker, say, a white Republican man?

It’s a combination of A and B, but it’s also because other candidates aren’t or haven’t been required to indicate their speaking fees or the costs for their speaking engagements haven’t been leaked to the press.

442 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:01:10am

In the Libertarian Utopia they all imagine they will be the JRRB CREEYATERZ and they can offer employment for subminimum wage only to individuals who are desperate enough to agree to their horrific working conditions.

They never imagine that they could end up being workers in this nightmare scenario.

443 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:02:26am

KITTEH VIDEO!
Youtube Video

444 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 7:05:27am
445 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 7:06:12am

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

Murrieta, CA. Established in the 1840s by a Basque who purchased Mexican land grants. Became a city in 1991 after being a backwater for decades - where most of the growth was due to commuters to big cities (thanks surburban sprawl).

Indigenous population? Hah! Those living there are nearly all immigrants to the area going back one or two generations. Only a handful have a lineage to the area stretching back 100+ years.

446 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:06:20am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m waiting for them to claim both are a plot by Obama to deflect attention from Benghazi.
///

447 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:06:37am

re: #421 Feline Fearless Leader

Temps dropped from 95F to 75F overnight. (Two big drops of 6 degrees and then 7 degrees as the front came through.) Should go back up to 90 F by this afternoon. Mold counts up, but everything else down due to the rain last night.

Feline overlords like watching rain hitting the windows. Thunder and lightning, not so much.

Also slept well since two berlinerweisse at a happy hour went down very nicely.

Mold counts are killing me. I am most allergic to mold. When I had the old fashioned skin prick allergy tests, that mold swelled up bigger than a chigger bite.

448 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 7:07:01am
449 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 7:07:02am

re: #442 Pie-onist Overlord

In the Libertarian Utopia they all imagine they will be the JRRB CREEYATERZ and they can offer employment for subminimum wage only to individuals who are desperate enough to agree to their horrific working conditions.

They never imagine that they could end up being workers in this nightmare scenario.

In their feudal Utopia, they imagine they will all be lords. It never occurs to them they will be the serfs.

450 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:07:11am
451 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:08:30am

re: #447 FemNaziBitch

Mold counts are killing me. I am most allergic to mold. When I had the old fashioned skin prick allergy tests, that mold swelled up bigger than a chigger bite.

The big one for me in one of those tests is ragweed. Weal for that was over an inch across. (And got me a cortisone shot for my trouble.) Found out I had mold, grass pollen, grass, tree pollen, etc. allergies as well. Luckily cat dander was only a mild reaction.

452 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:08:59am

The full quote:

453 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:09:19am

re: #449 Dr Lizardo

In their feudal Utopia, they imagine they will all be lords. It never occurs to them they will be the serfs.

And “serf and turf” is the serfs eating grass in order to avoid starvation.

454 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:09:31am

re: #416 lawhawk

455 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:09:55am

re: #450 Pie-onist Overlord

“Holy hate” is a very big sign that you’re doing it wrong.

456 A Mom Anon  Jul 3, 2014 7:11:03am

re: #410 Lidane

((((shudder)))) That just totally creeped me out, yeesh. Gack. Blergh.

457 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:11:13am

re: #454 Lidane

That’s the same delusional state as the Romney campaign on election night.

458 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:12:14am

And, 5 . 4 . 3 . 2 . 1 …

Post-Hobby Lobby, Religious Orgs Want Exemption From LGBT Hiring Order

Tomorrow, I expect to hear how religious affiliated hospitals will no longer be required to offer Plan-B Contraception to Rape Victims.

What was it Justice Ginsberg said about a slippery slope?

459 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:12:38am
460 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 7:12:48am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

And almost all the growth has been in the private sector, while the public sector continues to shrink.

Part of their plan to shrink the govt small enough to fit in a bathtub, doncha know.

Would that plan also include the elimination of their own jobs as politicians?

When you complain about govt jobs not being “real jobs”, you should probably throw out the election process, too, because there would be no money to keep that up, either.

Every “libertarian” is an anarchist at heart, and vice versa. It’s why the far right and far left get along so well and eventually sound the same, albeit from a different perspective. Both would destroy the social order because they don’t want any, just the “freedom” to do as they please, and everyone else be damned.

461 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:13:13am

re: #457 Feline Fearless Leader

True. Which Sargent is mocking. Put a whole bunch of sarc tags after his tweet.

462 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:13:32am

re: #460 Justanotherhuman

Part of their plan to shrink the govt small enough to fit in a bathtub uterus, doncha know.

FTFY

463 bubba zanetti  Jul 3, 2014 7:13:48am
464 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:14:17am

re:
#459

Also, too, uppity, arrogant

465 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:14:42am

More numbers:
Economy Adds 288,000 Jobs In June, Unemployment Falls To 6.1 Percent

466 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:15:21am

re: #460 Justanotherhuman

One of my “libertarians” on FB is crowing about Hobby Lobby being a victory for religious freedom and that he hopes it leads to ALL contraceptive coverage being banned.

You know, because a business should be able to force women to double dip into their pockets to pay for basic health care. It’s not enough to deduct the premiums from their paychecks every two weeks. Those sluts have to go pay out of pocket if they want abortion pills.

*headdesk*

467 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:15:41am

re: #460 Justanotherhuman

Part of their plan to shrink the govt small enough to fit in a bathtub, doncha know.

Would that plan also include the elimination of their own jobs as politicians?

When you complain about govt jobs not being “real jobs”, you should probably throw out the election process, too, because there would be no money to keep that up, either.

Every “libertarian” is an anarchist at heart, and vice versa. It’s why the far right and far left get along so well and eventually sound the same, albeit from a different perspective. Both would destroy the social order because they don’t want any, just the “freedom” to do as they please, and everyone else be damned.

The confusion between “do what you want” and “take what you want”. It was one of the themes that came up in the “V for Vendetta” graphic novel. (And not touched on at all in the movie.)

468 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:15:45am

re:
#450

The “seemingly sane” people are the scariest.

469 Dr. Matt  Jul 3, 2014 7:15:50am

re: #465 FemNaziBitch

More numbers:
Economy Adds 288,000 Jobs In June, Unemployment Falls To 6.1 Percent

Worst.Socialist.Ever

470 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:15:52am

re: #463 bubba zanetti

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I thought Jheri Curls were specifically for AA hair?

471 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:16:24am

re: #466 Lidane

One of my “libertarians” on FB is crowing about Hobby Lobby being a victory for religious freedom and that he hopes it leads to ALL contraceptive coverage being banned.

You know, because a business should be able to force women to double dip into their pockets to pay for basic health care. It’s not enough to deduct the premiums from their paychecks every two weeks. Those sluts have to go pay out of pocket if they want abortion pills.

*headdesk*

I just blocked @DarleenClick on Twitter for that Derp.

472 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:16:50am

re: #468 Bulworth

re:
#450

The “seemingly sane” people are the scariest.

You have to understand that “sane” is a term used to describe people not undergoing mental health treatment. It does not describe people needing mental health treatment.

473 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:16:55am

re: #461 Lidane

True. Which Sargent is mocking. Put a whole bunch of sarc tags after his tweet.

Not knowing who he is it was pretty much impossible to tell it was sarc. Which does say a lot about GOP pundit mindsets.

474 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:17:00am

HURR HURR WHO’S TEH VICTIMS!!!!!!!

475 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:17:27am
476 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:18:24am
477 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:18:59am

re: #474 Pie-onist Overlord

The fact that he sees “empowered women” as the giant that needs to be slayed is telling.

478 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:19:12am

SC Restaurant Owner Refuses To Serve Blacks, Cites Religious Beliefs -

Yes, that is right Piggie Park Enterprises Inc is involved in a law suit.

479 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:19:37am

re: #474 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR WHO’S TEH VICTIMS!!!!!!!

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A bit telling about the author -eh?

480 Lidane  Jul 3, 2014 7:20:59am
481 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:21:30am

re: #478 FemNaziBitch

SC Restaurant Owner Refuses To Serve Blacks, Cites Religious Beliefs -

Yes, that is right Piggie Park Enterprises Inc is involved in a law suit.

Article indicates that it was a case from 1968. However, it does show that people *will* claim that being racist is a closely held religious belief.

482 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 7:21:53am

re: #478 FemNaziBitch

SC Restaurant Owner Refuses To Serve Blacks, Cites Religious Beliefs -

Yes, that is right Piggie Park Enterprises Inc is involved in a law suit.

“And now for you who actually took the time to read the story instead of basing your outrage solely off a headline before sharing with an ALL CAPS blurb of “SEE? I TOLD YOU THE SOUTH WAS FULL OF RACISTS!!!”, this case was heard by the Supreme Court in 1968.”
- See more at: forwardprogressives.com

483 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 3, 2014 7:22:15am

Kinda late to the party, but heard about this last night. These people are absolutely disgusting. I heard on one of the shows on MSNBC that most of these people weren’t even residents of Murrieta, one person who was there said they were part of the “Minutemen” and other right wing groups and didn’t even live in the area.

I was in El Salvador for a couple weeks (as I said). I can see why people would try to send their kids here legally or otherwise. When I was there I said that it’d be great to go to Guatemala since it wasn’t that long of a drive (to see the mayan ruins). My extended family all said the same thing, no one drives there because it’s too dangerous to drive everyone flies (and it’s not cheap). It used to be we welcomed people from war torn/war ravaged countries. But I guess the only ones we welcome now are white.

484 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 7:22:29am

re: #481 Feline Fearless Leader

Article indicates that it was a case from 1968. However, it does show that people *will* claim that being racist is a closely held religious belief.

Yeah, knowing SC as I do, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if those claims were made today.

485 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:23:37am

re:
#474

The people who gave us the Internets had no idea that derp like this would ever be shown round the world in public.

486 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:23:46am

re: #484 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, knowing SC as I do, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if those claims were made today.

I note that contrary to the article’s little “expose’” moment no one is posting about it here in outrage. Must be something in the water.

487 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:24:41am

re:
#474

I heartily approve this meme as the next GOP outreach to women project. //

488 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:24:44am

re: #476 Pie-onist Overlord

That is very impressive. If *anyone* had the right to want revenge and demand it, it would be her.

489 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 7:25:06am
491 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:26:53am

re:
#466

One of my “libertarians” on FB is crowing about Hobby Lobby being a victory for religious freedom and that he hopes it leads to ALL contraceptive coverage being banned.

Ah, the socially conservative Libertarian. My favorite. Freedom. //

492 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 7:29:47am
493 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 3, 2014 7:30:00am

re: #480 Lidane

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Notice that O’Reilly really doesn’t care about the immigrants. He’s worried about the GOP.

494 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:30:04am
495 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:30:22am

re: #478 FemNaziBitch

SC Restaurant Owner Refuses To Serve Blacks, Cites Religious Beliefs -

Yes, that is right Piggie Park Enterprises Inc is involved in a law suit.

The decision linked to makes a reference to a citizen acting as a “private attorney general”.

en.wikipedia.org

I think this term is what is being abused by the posse comitatus nuts.

496 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:31:30am

From the NYT this morning—

BOULDER, Colo. — County clerks like Hillary Hall tend not to be bomb throwers. “We’re procedural, and we’re cautious,” she said, noting that clerks are duty-bound to follow bureaucratic rules for counting ballots, recording property deeds and registering license plates.

But last week, after a federal appeals court struck down Utah’s ban on same-sex unions, Ms. Hall decided the time had come to start issuing same-sex marriage licenses in Colorado, where they are not allowed. The move drew 97 delighted couples to the clerk’s offices, but it also put this liberal college town in the Rocky Mountain foothills on a potential collision course with the state’s Republican attorney general, John Suthers.

Activist judges legislatures governors voters county clerks!!!!!1

nytimes.com

497 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 7:32:04am

After reading back through some of the late comments last night I came across #292, I decided to create a little ‘shop image for everyone to use in cases like that if they so choose.

Attack Comment #292

Another one-time Kamikaze attack…post and die!

Click on it for larger view

498 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 7:32:38am
499 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:35:30am

re:
#497

-28 is pretty impressive.

500 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:35:50am

re: #482 Justanotherhuman

“And now for you who actually took the time to read the story instead of basing your outrage solely off a headline before sharing with an ALL CAPS blurb of “SEE? I TOLD YOU THE SOUTH WAS FULL OF RACISTS!!!”, this case was heard by the Supreme Court in 1968.”
- See more at: forwardprogressives.com

I know! I didn’t see the correct date on the legal brief either.

I have a problem with dates. Even when I remember to check them, I get it wrong. I’ve done this before. That is why I try to check the links and fact check a little on my own.

I think I’ll have to put a sign on my monitor to check my brain.

501 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:39:01am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope everyone is safe.

502 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:40:41am

re: #497 ObserverArt

After reading back through some of the late comments last night I came across #292, I decided to create a little ‘shop image for everyone to use in cases like that if they so choose.

Attack Comment #292

Another one-time Kamikaze attack…post and die!

I missed the comment. Looks like it could have been good eatin’.

:(

503 jaunte  Jul 3, 2014 7:40:42am

re: #481 Feline Fearless Leader

Article indicates that it was a case from 1968. However, it does show that people *will* claim that being racist is a closely held religious belief.

I’m sure everyone has moved past all that.
//////

504 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:40:58am

Texting messages with my niece right now. She says that it’s currently pouring rain on Wrightsville Beach and “kinda scary”.

I asked if she plans to evacuate, and when.

505 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:41:40am

re: #503 jaunte

I’m sure everyone has moved past all that.
//////

naw, I’m still very concerned about Plan B being offered to rape victims. There are still some nurses that don’t want to administer it.

506 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:42:14am
507 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 7:43:21am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

For the Twitter-impaired like me, what “nonsense” is BF talking about?

508 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:44:33am

re: #507 wheat-dogghazi

For the Twitter-impaired like me, what “nonsense” is BF talking about?

He links to some derpshit on cnsnews.com. I didn’t click on it.

509 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:45:10am

It saddens me tremendously that we need a strong central government to enforce laws regarding humans treating each other with dignity.

Seems rather pathetic.

510 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:46:15am

re:
#508

Feds suing some Wisconsin company for firing Hispanic employees who, the company claims, didn’t know English sufficiently for their jobs. Didn’t read the rest of it.

512 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:48:01am

re: #502 FemNaziBitch

I missed the comment. Looks like it could have been good eatin’.

:(

Naw. Just a repeat offender that got past the irrelevant screen of mutated chameleons and posted a classic flounce as their first comment.

513 jaunte  Jul 3, 2014 7:48:25am

re: #508 Pie-onist Overlord

EEOC:
“According to John Rowe, director of the EEOC’s Chicago District, which includes Wisconsin, the EEOC’s pre-suit administrative investigation revealed that WPI fired the Hmong and Hispanic employees based on 10-minute observations that marked them down for their English skills, even though those skills were not needed to perform their jobs. All of those fired had received satisfactory ratings on their annual performance evaluations while working for WPI’s Modern Plastics Division. ”
eeoc.gov

514 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:48:25am

What does Bryan think they should do? Burn them in huge piles?

515 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 7:49:39am

DNC sets site visits for 2016 convention

politico.com

I’m betting on Ohio (well, hoping). And I’ll bet the Rs choose Dallas with all that TX money available, even though it could travel to Cleveland (the Rs have only those 2 left in contention), although Johnny Manziel might be a draw in Cleveland but he wouldn’t be enough.

516 Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2014 7:50:38am

re: #450 Pie-onist Overlord

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So are the extremist Muslims. Those 2 are closer in mindset than they would like to admit.

517 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:51:00am

Cindy Jacobs Has A Long Record Of Preventing Terrorist Attacks. Just Ask Her

Last week we noted that “respected prophet” Cindy Jacobs had issued an urgent prophetic warning that a massive 9/11-like terrorist attack against America was in the works. Now she has released a “prophetic update” video about this possible attack in which she recounted a variety of times when her prayers stopped various terrorist attacks from happening, as with the case in Dallas and the May Day prayer rally that stopped a bombing in Times Square.

nice work if you can get it.

518 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 7:51:02am

How much longer before Alito and the other four Supremes realize they opened a nasty can of worms with their Monday decision?

Well, that is if they can get past their own egos to ever admit it was screwed up.

Oh, by the way…Dark_Falcon been around. I don’t think I’ve seen him comment since Monday.

519 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 7:51:57am

re: #514 Pie-onist Overlord

What does Bryan think they should do? Burn them in huge piles?

Leave them out for the vultures

520 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 7:52:00am

re: #510 Bulworth

re:
#508

Feds suing some Wisconsin company for firing Hispanic employees who, the company claims, didn’t know English sufficiently for their jobs. Didn’t read the rest of it.

I dug deeper. Here is what the EEOC says in its press release.

According to John Rowe, director of the EEOC’s Chicago District, which includes Wisconsin, the EEOC’s pre-suit administrative investigation revealed that WPI fired the Hmong and Hispanic employees based on 10-minute observations that marked them down for their English skills, even though those skills were not needed to perform their jobs. All of those fired had received satisfactory ratings on their annual performance evaluations while working for WPI’s Modern Plastics Division.

eeoc.gov

The EEOC has filed a civil suit against the company in federal court.

521 AntonSirius  Jul 3, 2014 7:52:31am

re: #511 FemNaziBitch

Vancouver Schools’ New LGBTTQ+ Policy Includes Gender-Free Pronouns Xe, Xem and Xyr

Note that the CNS story gets it wrong, of course:

…including the creation of three pronouns, replacing masculine and feminine with xe, xem and xyr (pronounced ze, zem and zur).

He/she etc aren’t being replaced by the new pronouns, they’re just being added as alternatives:

Lombardi said the idea for a pronoun addition was raised during public hearings and was a way to bring clarity to the policy, which allows transgender students to be addressed by their name and pronoun of choice.

522 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 7:52:32am

re: #515 Justanotherhuman

DNC sets site visits for 2016 convention

politico.com

I’m betting on Ohio (well, hoping). And I’ll bet the Rs choose Dallas with all that TX money available, even though it could travel to Cleveland (the Rs have only those 2 left in contention), although Johnny Manziel might be a draw in Cleveland but he wouldn’t be enough.

COLUMBUS!!! Please.

523 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:53:19am

re: #521 AntonSirius

Note that the CNS story gets it wrong, of course:

He/she etc aren’t being replaced by the new pronouns, they’re just being added as alternatives:

Yes, that was my understanding.

524 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:53:41am

re: #511 FemNaziBitch

Vancouver Schools’ New LGBTTQ+ Policy Includes Gender-Free Pronouns Xe, Xem and Xyr

Personal opinion is that it’s a misguided approach. A small and relatively local attempt is probably not going to gain traction and make headway. It will be ignored elsewhere, or heavily criticized and poison the well towards the usage expanding.

You probably won’t see gender-free pronouns develop via a dedicated approach. If they creep in via slang it will be a long term development as they gradually gain acceptance - and fight against entrenched grammar that resists adopting slang. Or, and unlikely in my opinion, there is a country-wide mandate to add them enforced by a government. And that would also be widely resisted for reasons that I think most Lizards would see as obvious.

525 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 7:53:45am

re: #517 FemNaziBitch

Cindy Jacobs Has A Long Record Of Preventing Terrorist Attacks. Just Ask Her

nice work if you can get it.

I predict a hurricane is going to hit North Carolina soon, very soon.

526 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 7:54:25am
527 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 7:54:37am

re: #513 jaunte

Ah. You were quicker on the draw.

528 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:55:06am

re: #518 ObserverArt

How much longer before Alito and the other four Supremes realize they opened a nasty can of worms with their Monday decision?
[snip]
.

Probably when Ginsburg goes around the SC Chambers with a clue-by-four.
//

529 jaunte  Jul 3, 2014 7:55:41am

re: #527 wheat-dogghazi

Every time Bryan Fischer is wrong, it’s worth repeating.

530 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 7:56:31am
531 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:56:39am

re: #529 jaunte

Every time Bryan Fischer is wrong, it’s worth repeating.

So there needs to be a “Bryan Fischer is wrong” Twitter account that does nothing but repeat every Tweet Bryan sends out? That would save time and effort.

532 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:57:50am

re:
#520

But the noted Christianist wingnutty news service CNS can’t dig that deep. OUTRAGE!!!!!1111

533 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 7:58:31am

re: #530 FemNaziBitch

Youtube Video

534 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 7:58:50am

re: #530 FemNaziBitch

Wouldn’t a cat therapist simply tell you repeatedly that you don’t act dominant and inscrutable enough, and that you need to eat more mice?

535 Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2014 7:58:51am

re: #483 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Kinda late to the party, but heard about this last night. These people are absolutely disgusting. I heard on one of the shows on MSNBC that most of these people weren’t even residents of Murrieta, one person who was there said they were part of the “Minutemen” and other right wing groups and didn’t even live in the area.

I was in El Salvador for a couple weeks (as I said). I can see why people would try to send their kids here legally or otherwise. When I was there I said that it’d be great to go to Guatemala since it wasn’t that long of a drive (to see the mayan ruins). My extended family all said the same thing, no one drives there because it’s too dangerous to drive everyone flies (and it’s not cheap). It used to be we welcomed people from war torn/war ravaged countries. But I guess the only ones we welcome now are white.

Why the fuck don’t these people get a fucking job? Am I supporting them with my tax dollars to disrupt a lawful procedure? I want to drug test every fucking one of them and whatever I find in their system they better have a script from a reputable doctor for it (no Viagra from a buddy, or Oxy from a friend)!

536 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 7:58:52am

re:
#531

Yes but someone would have to be paid to work full-time in that job.

537 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 7:58:54am

re: #526 Pie-onist Overlord

@viciousbabushka @JuneArbogast @BryanJFischer Not only are you illiterate, your totally mis informed about all those issues.NUTCASE

I just love it when someone calls out someone for being illiterate and then goes and proves their own issues with “your” for “you’re” and doesn’t catch it.

FAIL!

Plus…if that is her in the tweet image…scary eyes.

538 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 8:00:13am

re: #536 Bulworth

re:
#531

Yes but someone would have to be paid to work full-time in that job.

You’d think a simple script could handle that. Which would also protect someone from overexposure to high concentration derp.

539 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:00:52am

re: #537 ObserverArt

I just love it when someone calls out someone for being illiterate and then goes and proves their own issues with “your” for “you’re” and doesn’t catch it.

FAIL!

Plus…if that is her in the tweet image…scary eyes.

I realized after embedding that Tweet she’s referring to the wingnut holding up the sign with all the misspellings, not to yr Pie-onist Overlord.

540 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 8:01:08am

90 mph now

541 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:01:43am

re: #523 FemNaziBitch

Yes, that was my understanding.

Well, I dunno. Replacing “women” with “womyn” 40+ yrs ago didn’t work out very well to sever the male connection of “men” in the Second Wave even though it was used extensively in a lot of writing.

542 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:04:08am

Arthur now expected to be a Category 2 hurricane when it moves near or over eastern North Carolina tonight and early tomorrow - @NHC_Atlantic
End of alert

543 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:05:17am
544 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:05:21am
545 piratedan  Jul 3, 2014 8:05:47am

re: #518 ObserverArt

I don’t think they care, it’s judicial coup counting partisan style. Pretty obvious that they’re taking the opportunity to imprint their own vision of what they want the US to be with these twisted convolutions of “logic” in order to justify their interpretation of the law but coloring it with their own moral/ethical code (flimsy as it is).

546 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:05:52am

HURR HURR UR BOSS GIVES U A PAYCHECK FOR FREE U MOOCHER!!!!!

547 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:07:52am

re: #535 Eventual Carrion

Why the fuck don’t these people get a fucking job? Am I supporting them with my tax dollars to disrupt a lawful procedure? I want to drug test every fucking one of them and whatever I find in their system they better have a script from a reputable doctor for it (no Viagra from a buddy, or Oxy from a friend)!

I’d prefer a psych evaluation.

548 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 8:07:57am

re: #542 Justanotherhuman

Arthur now expected to be a Category 2 hurricane when it moves near or over eastern North Carolina tonight and early tomorrow - @NHC_Atlantic
End of alert

Any idea of what kind of wind and rain that is going to bring your way?

549 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 8:08:42am

re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth

90 mph now

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Warm Gulf Stream waters will do that - the offshore water temps are quite warm, and temperature is what gives these storms their punch.

550 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 8:08:51am

re: #548 ObserverArt

Any idea of what kind of wind and rain that is going to bring your way?

I can text my niece and ask her what it’s doing right now.

551 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:08:59am

re: #544 Pie-onist Overlord

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Yeah, and the doctor visit? The PAP test?

Do these morons have any clue?

552 Teukka  Jul 3, 2014 8:09:01am

Please tell me I am dreaming or have somehow been transported to a weird, psychotic dimension. I just had this chat conversation:

RWNJ: who says tobacco a bad product?
Me: Most of the medical profession. Many of its users.
RWNJ: if tobacco was that bad it would not have a market
Me: What if I told you that nicotine is a substance acting on the central nervous system, is very addictive and is about as addictive as heroin?
RWNJ: Nobody holds a gun to your head like they do with Communist Medicine and makes you buy a product you do not want
RWNJ: its your opinion ONLY its bad not the free markets

(Names redacted to protect the clueless)

553 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:09:21am

re: #514 Pie-onist Overlord

I think BJF is referring to a Breitbart story about volunteer officers patrolling the area around Brooks County, TX, for lost immigrants. The volunteers have rescued people who get lost in the range without food or water. But the story muddles the rescues with some argle-bargle about the sheriff’s office having to cut staff to cover the cost of burying immigrants who die out there.

Maybe one of our TX lizards can clarify the story, because the Breitbart article ain’t helping. (BTW, I am not linking to it. I found through the magic of Google. Well, actually, Bing, because China is blocking Google right now.)

554 SteveMcGazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:10:48am

re: #430 Pie-onist Overlord

Hate to say it, but the lady has a point. COB does not equal a tax break. You get tax breaks for operating in improvement districts, or by playing one state off against another, for example. But the premiums I pay are just part of the costs of labor. We never got a discount on our tax bill because we paid health insurance premiums for our employees.

555 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 8:11:28am

re:
#552

Oh dear…..

556 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 8:11:34am

re: #450 Pie-onist Overlord

557 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:12:37am

We had a terror warning?
UK airports running ‘as normal’ after US terror warning

558 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:13:44am
559 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:14:11am

re: #553 wheat-dogghazi

A related story, from Scripps News Service. gosanangelo.com

Nothing there about the cost of burying the dead, or cutting staff, though.

Got it. Local TV station report about the sheriff’s dept facing fuel shortages, pay cuts, because the county is having to absorb the cost of burying immigrants who die out in the brush. krgv.com

So, BJF and Breitbart messed up in suggesting the sheriff’s dept has to pay for the burials. It’s the county budget that’s strapped, and everyone there is feeling the pinch. So, volunteers are going out to find people in distress before they keel over from dehydration or starvation.

560 Teukka  Jul 3, 2014 8:16:02am

re: #555 Bulworth

re:
#552

Oh dear…..

Indeed. And when I suggested that he might look into getting help just after posting this:
RWNJ: Teukka: learn history and economics before you ill again
RWNJ: kill*
RWNJ: Teukka: Communism and socialism its transition stage brings nothing but death and misery. Thats its history and fact

Either this guy is an elaborate troll, or … WOAH.

561 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 8:17:40am

re: #554 SteveMcGazi

Hate to say it, but the lady has a point. COB does not equal a tax break. You get tax breaks for operating in improvement districts, or by playing one state off against another, for example. But the premiums I pay are just part of the costs of labor. We never got a discount on our tax bill because we paid health insurance premiums for our employees.

Compensation and wages are a cost of business. Tax breaks for encouraging hiring and providing health benefits are not a cost of business. They reduce the cost of business. The tax breaks for providing health care benefits and other items are substantial and can reduce a corporation’s tax burden significantly (which improve’s the company’s bottom line).

You know what else is a cost of business - employees that are always sick and have to come in and get other employees sick, instead of being able to take paid time off and get well and get appropriate medical care before they cost even more to get well. Birth control fits into that as well - since pregnancies cost more towards health care costs of a self-insured company and reduce the woman’s output during and after pregnancy. Birth control would allow women to avoid pregnancy (if that’s their choice) on their terms so they can better plan on when they want to get pregnant instead of leaving it all to chance.

562 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:17:42am

Persecuting Christians … .

563 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:18:30am

re: #548 ObserverArt

Any idea of what kind of wind and rain that is going to bring your way?

Probably nothing much. We’re supposed to have t-storms anyway. But I’m 200 mi from the ocean.

Now, Hurricane Hugo was an entirely different matter. : )

564 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:19:51am

re: #540 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #549 lawhawk

I’m in South Carolina right now by the beach

Just started raining here a little while ago. We were able to get in 18 holes this morning before it started

565 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 8:19:52am

re: #557 FemNaziBitch

Yup. Posted about it last night in connection with the reports of a gas explosion in London.

566 SteveMcGazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:20:40am

re: #561 lawhawk

We never got tax breaks for providing health benefits. You don’t have to sing to me about the need for heath insurance and that other stuff, it’s just that my company never got tax breaks for providing health benefits, basically, they were nothing more than a COB.

567 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 3, 2014 8:20:46am

re: #526 Pie-onist Overlord

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Is she the same woman in the picture?

568 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:22:19am

re: #566 SteveMcGazi

We never got tax breaks for providing health benefits. You don’t have to sing to me about the need for heath insurance and that other stuff, it’s just that my company never got tax breaks for providing health benefits, basically, they were nothing more than a COB.

Same for me when I owned a couple of small businesses

569 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:22:34am

LOLWUT

570 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 8:22:40am

re: #562 FemNaziBitch

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Wingnuts think more about sex than porn flick directors.

571 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:23:31am

re: #570 Dr Lizardo

Wingnuts think more about sex than porn flick directors.

There is a saying …

When you point a finger at someone, there are 3 pointing back at you.

572 SteveMcGazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:23:51am

And also, just because employees have paid sick days doesn’t mean they use them when they’re sick. One of my personal maxims is “never take a sick day when you’re actually sick”, with a follow up, “Never waste a sick day when it’s raining.”

573 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:24:26am

re: #572 SteveMcGazi

And also, just because employees have paid sick days doesn’t mean they use them when they’re sick. One of my personal maxims is “never take a sick day when you’re actually sick”, with a follow up, “Never waste a sick day when it’s raining.”

I believe in Mental Health Days. …

574 ObserverArt  Jul 3, 2014 8:24:43am

re: #563 Justanotherhuman

Probably nothing much. We’re supposed to have t-storms anyway. But I’m 200 mi from the ocean.

Now, Hurricane Hugo was an entirely different matter. : )

I figured you were more inward from the coast, but some hurricanes have a pretty wide band of storms. Get yer boat ready just in case!

: )

575 Ed E. Lishus  Jul 3, 2014 8:24:57am

re: #569 Pie-onist Overlord

Ooooh! Burrrrrn!

576 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:25:14am
577 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:25:39am

re: #570 Dr Lizardo

Wingnuts think more about sex than porn flick directors.

Wingnuts are plagued by guilt. They babble against sex of all kinds to cover up their feelings for the sex they had but think they’d shouldn’t have had.

578 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:26:14am

re: #572 SteveMcGazi

And also, just because employees have paid sick days doesn’t mean they use them when they’re sick. One of my personal maxims is “never take a sick day when you’re actually sick”, with a follow up, “Never waste a sick day when it’s raining.”

Many companies have now gotten away from calling them sick days or vavaction time

It’s now an all encompassing moniker. The company I work for now calls it PTO (paid time off) Doesn’t matter if I use that “day” off to play golf or lay in bed with a terrible cold

579 iossarian  Jul 3, 2014 8:26:32am

My sign for immigrants:

Hello, my name is Iossarian and I am not a foaming-at-the-mouth racist nutter with poor spelling and grammar skills. I would like to be your friend.

580 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:26:45am

re: #573 FemNaziBitch

I believe in Mental Health Days. …

see 578

581 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 8:26:49am

re:
#561

Is there a tax break to employers for providing employee health insurance? Are any costs of business deductible from taxes? I had assumed there was.

Does it reduce the COB if the employer provides healthcare as part of compensation, and would an employer’s taxes be different if, say, an employee’s healthcare coverage was counted as income (to the employee)? Guess what I’m asking here is the mix of healthcare/wage compensation relevant to the taxes an employer pays? Also wonder if it depends on size of employer.

582 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:27:40am

re: #534 Feline Fearless Leader

Wouldn’t a cat therapist simply tell you repeatedly that you don’t act dominant and inscrutable enough, and that you need to eat more mice?

I was wondering if the therapist is for the cat or the human.

583 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:27:41am

re: #574 ObserverArt

I figured you were more inward from the coast, but some hurricanes have a pretty wide band of storms. Get yer boat ready just in case!

: )

No winds here on the coast (yet)

584 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:28:26am

How? The same way other companies are doing it—“cost cutting measures”, basically outsourcing for cheaper labor.

HTC posts 1st profit in a year, despite decreased revenue - @gigaom
Read more on gigaom.com

“HTC’s profit this quarter is due to cost-cutting measures, not increased handset sales. HTC has addressed supply chain issues, and, unusually for the one-time OEM, has started outsourcing some production to reduce costs.”

585 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 8:28:51am

re: #571 FemNaziBitch

There is a saying …

When you point your finger cos your plan fell through
You got three more fingers pointing back at you
- Dire Straits

586 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:29:08am

re: #581 Bulworth

re:
#561

Is there a tax break to employers for providing employee health insurance? Are any costs of business deductible from taxes? I had assumed there was.

Does it reduce the COB if the employer provides healthcare as part of compensation, and would an employer’s taxes be different if, say, an employee’s healthcare coverage was counted as income (to the employee)? Guess what I’m asking here is the mix of healthcare/wage compensation relevant to the taxes an employer pays? Also wonder if it depends on size of employer.

In Libertarian Utopia, there has to be a large population of unemployed, desperate people who will agree to accept the pittance salary and horrible working conditions that the almighty “JOB CREATORS” offer them.

587 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 8:29:23am

re: #577 wheat-dogghazi

Wingnuts are plagued by guilt. They babble against sex of all kinds to cover up their feelings for the sex they had but think they’d shouldn’t have had.

Yeah, wingnuts are pretty much obsessed with sex in all varieties. I think somewhere out there is a map of internet activity that shows that the Deep South (the Bible Belt, in particular) is the region that looks at porn the most.

Presumably, it’s for research.

//

588 iossarian  Jul 3, 2014 8:29:49am

re: #585 Feline Fearless Leader

When you point your finger cos your plan fell through
You got three more fingers pointing back at you
- Dire Straits

Awesome. Dire Straits auto-upding in effect.

589 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:30:10am
590 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:30:35am

re: #541 Justanotherhuman

Well, I dunno. Replacing “women” with “womyn” 40+ yrs ago didn’t work out very well to sever the male connection of “men” in the Second Wave even though it was used extensively in a lot of writing.

Ms. caught on.

I’d just like a standard to go by. They, Thy and Thou would work as well.

591 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 8:30:39am

re:
#562

There must be a requirement for RWNJ to speak of any policies, practices, personal choices, inclusiveness and anything else they oppose as radical.

592 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 8:31:59am

re: #591 Bulworth

re:
#562

There must be a requirement for RWNJ to speak of any policies, practices, personal choices, inclusiveness and anything else they oppose as radical.

they must classify anyone who disagrees with them as a loser, terrorist sympathizer, moocher, fascist/communist, racist, etc., because these people are not worth even talking to anymore.

593 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 8:32:18am

re: #588 iossarian

Awesome. Dire Straits auto-upding in effect.

Was listening to Dire Straits albums last night while reading. :)

Some blame the management some the employees
And everybody knows it’s the Industrial Disease.

594 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 8:32:52am

re: #590 FemNaziBitch

Ms. caught on.

I’d just like a standard to go by. They, Thy and Thou would work as well.

Or drop back to universal usage of “you”.

595 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:32:59am

re: #590 FemNaziBitch

Ms. caught on.

I’d just like a standard to go by. They, Thy and Thou would work as well.

Thee, thou and thy are archaic forms that a lord used to address the peasants. You and your were how the peasants were supposed to address the lord. As society became more egalitarian, the “peasant” forms of address were abandoned.

596 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:33:58am

re: #587 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, wingnuts are pretty much obsessed with sex in all varieties. I think somewhere out there is a map of internet activity that shows that the Deep South (the Bible Belt, in particular) is the region that looks at porn the most.

Presumably, it’s for research.

//

Also, Utah. Red states seems to have the highest porn viewership; blue states the least.

597 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:34:20am

THIS WEEKEND’S C-SPAN Book TV schedule.

This looks interesting.

598 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:34:28am

re: #590 FemNaziBitch

Ms. caught on.

I’d just like a standard to go by. They, Thy and Thou would work as well.

True about Ms. I always use it. I really credit Ms. magazine for that change, though.

599 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:36:54am

re: #594 Feline Fearless Leader

Or drop back to universal usage of “you”.

Doesn’t work so well in the 3nd and 3rd person if one is trying to be gender neutral.

600 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:37:15am

New Hanover County, NC, and Wilmington, NC, declare State of Emergency as the effects of Hurricane Arthur reach the area - @WWAY
Read more on wwaytv3.com

601 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 8:37:16am

re: #599 FemNaziBitch

Doesn’t work so well in the 3nd and 3rd person if one is trying to be gender neutral.

yins

602 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:37:24am

re: #592 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

they must classify anyone who disagrees with them as a loser, terrorist sympathizer, moocher, fascist/communist, racist, etc., because these people are not worth even talking to anymore.

Or the dreaded, LIBERAL!!!

603 iossarian  Jul 3, 2014 8:37:31am

re: #593 Feline Fearless Leader

Was listening to Dire Straits albums last night while reading. :)

Communique/Making Movies?

“Les Boys” might be my favorite Dire Straits song, but I love all the rock stuff. The count-in on Expresso Love is a thing of beauty.

“One… Two… One Two Three Four”

Love it.

604 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:37:43am

re: #598 Justanotherhuman

True about Ms. I always use it. I really credit Ms. magazine for that change, though.

I can (and do) use it in the written form. But when speaking to someone (as in, “Hello. Ms. Smith. Nice to meet you) , I find it awkward

605 iossarian  Jul 3, 2014 8:37:56am

re: #596 wheat-dogghazi

Also, Utah. Red states seems to have the highest porn viewership; blue states the least.

False kleenex-flags.

606 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:38:32am

re: #600 Justanotherhuman

New Hanover County, NC, and Wilmington, NC, declare State of Emergency as the effects of Hurricane Arthur reach the area - @WWAY
Read more on wwaytv3.com

As early as yesterday afternoon they were calling for a mandatory evacuation of the Outer Banks

607 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:39:56am

re: #595 Pie-onist Overlord

Thee, thou and thy are archaic forms that a lord used to address the peasants. You and your were how the peasants were supposed to address the lord. As society became more egalitarian, the “peasant” forms of address were abandoned.

The early Quakers insisted on using thee, thou and thy with everyone, even after the informal second-person forms were no longer common. Some kept the “plain speech” well into the 1800s. You can hear it in the movie The Friendly Persuasion, set in the 1860s, IIRC.

Quaker also refused to doff their hats when meeting someone of higher station, and addressed everyone by their given names, and not “Lord” or whatever. Ruffled quite a few feathers in the 17th century.

608 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:40:36am

re: #604 sattv4u2

I can (and do) use it in the written form. But when speaking to someone (as in, “Hello. Ms. Smith. Nice to meet you) , I find it awkward

My Dear Ole’ Dad always used Mz. Not because he was being a feminist or anything, that’s just how it sounded with his Kentucky drawl.

Worked out well for him.

609 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:41:47am

re: #607 wheat-dogghazi

The early Quakers insisted on using thee, thou and thy with everyone, even after the informal second-person forms were no longer common. Some kept the “plain speech” well into the 1800s. You can hear it in the movie The Friendly Persuasion, set in the 1860s, IIRC.

Quaker also refused to doff their hats when meeting someone of higher station, and addressed everyone by their given names, and not “Lord” or whatever. Ruffled quite a few feathers in the 17th century.

There was John Wayne Movie —Angel and the Bad Man. Involved Quakers and the usage of pronouns.

610 iossarian  Jul 3, 2014 8:42:03am

re: #595 Pie-onist Overlord

Thee, thou and thy are archaic forms that a lord used to address the peasants. You and your were how the peasants were supposed to address the lord. As society became more egalitarian, the “peasant” forms of address were abandoned.

A distinction preserved in various continental languages, bien sur.

611 FemNaziBitch  Jul 3, 2014 8:42:24am

bbl

612 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:42:45am

re: #608 FemNaziBitch

My Dear Ole’ Dad always used Mz. Not because he was being a feminist or anything, that’s just how it sounded with his Kentucky drawl.

Worked out well for him.

Walt Kelly’s characters in the Pogo strips always used “Miz,” for similar reasons.

613 geoffm33  Jul 3, 2014 8:43:26am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve seen that image a dozen times by now…but just now noticed that she used a period AT THE BEGINNING of the U.S. abbreviation:

.U.S.

Maybe it’s a silent “The” in “The United States”?

614 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:43:46am

re: #610 iossarian

A distinction preserved in various continental languages, bien sur.

Sie haben Recht. (Du hast Recht)

615 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 8:43:51am

re: #109 Feline Fearless Leader

Find all sorts of weird stuff when you mix search terms…

That’s freaking CREEPY!

616 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:44:28am

re: #610 iossarian

A distinction preserved in various continental languages, bien sur.

Not to mention Korean, Japanese, and Chinese, among many others. English is one of the few languages that has dispensed with informal and formal versions of the second person pronouns.

617 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 8:46:15am

IRC Section 106 and Cafeteria Plans under IRC Section 125 are for the employees.

This is for the employers:

Small Business Health Care Credits.

For tax years 2010 through 2013, the maximum credit is 35 percent of premiums paid for small business employers and 25 percent of premiums paid for small tax-exempt employers such as charities.

For tax years beginning in 2014 or later, there are changes to the credit:

The maximum credit increases to 50 percent of premiums paid for small business employers and 35 percent of premiums paid for small tax-exempt employers.
To be eligible for the credit, a small employer must pay premiums on behalf of employees enrolled in a qualified health plan offered through a Small Business Health Options Program (SHOP) Marketplace or qualify for an exception to this requirement.
The credit is available to eligible employers for two consecutive taxable years.

Here’s what this means for you. If you pay $50,000 a year toward employees’ health care premiums — and if you qualify for a 15 percent credit, you save… $7,500. If you save $7,500 a year from tax year 2010 through 2013, that’s total savings of $30,000. If, in 2014, you qualify for a slightly larger credit, say 20 percent, your savings go from $7,500 a year to $10,000 a year.

618 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 8:47:55am

re: #127 Pie-onist Overlord

That horrible moment when you go to block some asshole and find out that you’ve been following his Tweets!

There are times Twitter utterly confounds me. I have some of the weirdest shit in my timeline…and I have no idea why it is there. I am not following these people, people I follow are not RTing these morons, yet there they are.

619 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 8:48:09am

re: #612 wheat-dogghazi

Walt Kelly’s characters in the Pogo strips always used “Miz,” for similar reasons.

“Miz” was pretty common in the south. I also have heard “Mrs” pronounced as “Mizriz” or “Misriz”.

And I always hated seeing the more common form of identifying a married woman, as in “Mrs. Howard Smith” or in announcements as Jennie (Mrs. Howard) Smith.

Talk about quaint. : )

620 andres  Jul 3, 2014 8:48:58am

re: #595 Pie-onist Overlord

Thee, thou and thy are archaic forms that a lord used to address the peasants. You and your were how the peasants were supposed to address the lord. As society became more egalitarian, the “peasant” forms of address were abandoned.

Interesting. Thank you!

Languages have such a rich history embedded in them.

621 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 8:49:26am

So, I’m pretty happy. I found one of my favorite Czech TV series, Malý pitaval z velkého města archived on the Czech Television website.

I love this show. It’s from the early 1980s, and it’s about detectives in Prague going after various criminals. I’ll post the link, and you can watch it, even if you can’t understand the language.

ceskatelevize.cz

622 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 8:49:29am

re: #617 lawhawk

I am not very legally versed, but does this mean, at least potentially, that although the government cannot “force” employers to provide the full range of coverage under ACA, that it can curtail their tax credits if they choose not to fully comply?

623 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2014 8:50:10am
624 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:50:34am

re: #618 Joanne

There are times Twitter utterly confounds me. I have some of the weirdest shit in my timeline…and I have no idea why it is there. I am not following these people, people I follow are not RTing these morons, yet there they are.

I use Tweetdeck but if I happen to go over to twitter.com I also see crap in my TL that I’m not following or RT’ed by people I’m following. I think these are “featured” spam Tweets.

Hey Twitter’s gotta make money somehow!

625 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 8:51:09am

re:
#623

He’s incredibly devious like that, he is.

626 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:53:07am

re: #619 Justanotherhuman

“Miz” was pretty common in the south. I also have heard “Mrs” pronounced as “Mizriz” or “Misriz”.

And I always hated seeing the more common form of identifying a married woman, as in “Mrs. Howard Smith” or in announcements as Jennie (Mrs. Howard) Smith.

Talk about quaint. : )

Back when I was a reporter in western KY, I sometimes had to take calls from the funeral homes calling in obits. I learned that “missus” referred to a woman who was married at the time of her death and “mizriz” meant she was a widow at the time of her death.

627 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:54:22am

re: #626 wheat-dogghazi

Back when I was a reporter in western KY, I sometimes had to take calls from the funeral homes calling in obits. I learned that “missus” referred to a woman who was married at the time of her death and “mizriz” meant she was a widow at the time of her death.

Mrs. is an abbreviation of Mistress.

628 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:55:12am

Mr. is an abbreviation of Mister which means “My Lord” (see Monsieur)

629 sattv4u2  Jul 3, 2014 8:55:39am

re: #627 Pie-onist Overlord

Mrs. is an abbreviation of Mistress.

If I had a mistress my Mrs. would abbreviate ME !!

630 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 3, 2014 8:55:59am

re: #628 Pie-onist Overlord

Mr. is an abbreviation of Mister which means “My Lord” (see Monsieur)

Or does it come from “Meister” (master)?

631 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:58:02am

re: #630 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Or does it come from “Meister” (master)?

Meister means a person who has mastered a trade or a skill, or a teacher.

632 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 8:58:39am

re: #627 Pie-onist Overlord

Mrs. is an abbreviation of Mistress.

Back before it had a different connotation than now. Mistress was the female version of “Mister,” and “Mister” itself was an altered form of “Master.”

633 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2014 8:58:49am

re: #514 Pie-onist Overlord

What does Bryan think they should do? Burn them in huge piles?

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Actually I believe he probably does.

634 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 8:59:47am

re: #633 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually I believe he probably does.

Well maybe not in open piles. Build a little facility to cut down on the emissions.
//

635 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 9:00:37am

re:
#617

Other Types of Business Expenses
Employees’ Pay - You can generally deduct the pay you give your employees for the services they perform for your business.
Retirement Plans - Retirement plans are savings plans that offer you tax advantages to set aside money for your own, and your employees’ retirement.
Rent Expense - Rent is any amount you pay for the use of property you do not own. In general, you can deduct rent as an expense only if the rent is for property you use in your trade or business. If you have or will receive equity in or title to the property, the rent is not deductible.
Interest - Business interest expense is an amount charged for the use of money you borrowed for business activities.
Taxes - You can deduct various federal, state, local, and foreign taxes directly attributable to your trade or business as business expenses.
Insurance - Generally, you can deduct the ordinary and necessary cost of insurance as a business expense, if it is for your trade, business, or profession.

These seem rather broad if a little vague. But I would conclude that wages and insurance costs can be deducted.

This is in addition to the small business tax credits, which business can get if they meet certain qualifications.

636 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 9:03:54am

re:
#514

What does Bryan think they should do? Burn them in huge piles?

Bryan seems concerned about the costs to the county. Maybe more funding is needed. Or maybe galtian volunteers should perform this service.

637 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 9:05:35am

re: #626 wheat-dogghazi

Back when I was a reporter in western KY, I sometimes had to take calls from the funeral homes calling in obits. I learned that “missus” referred to a woman who was married at the time of her death and “mizriz” meant she was a widow at the time of her death.

That may have been specific to KY, because these women were alive, at least according to my relatives here in NC, who used that pronunciation. Regions, even smaller venues, take on their own pronunciations, usage, and meanings of words, of course.

638 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 9:07:01am

re: #227 jaunte

Oh look, she’s a Bundy Ranch fan.

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facebook.com

And here we have another nutburger running for public office.

639 Recreational Birth Control User  Jul 3, 2014 9:07:32am

This all makes me so sick, I can’t even begin to tell you how much.

640 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2014 9:08:46am

re: #636 Bulworth

re:
#514

Bryan seems concerned about the costs to the county. Maybe more funding is needed. Or maybe galtian volunteers should perform this service.

There are actually several legitimate “border ministries” run by churches whose sole aim is to help keep migrants from dying in the borderlands.

They’re not run by wingnut churches either.

Personally, I’d rather serve with one of those groups than be a doucehbag and hold up buses.

641 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2014 9:09:18am

Also, I’m surprised no one has suggested changing the name from Murrieta to Murrica.

/

642 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 9:10:10am

re:
#638

Is this one of the Murrieta protesters?

643 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 9:11:04am

The new craze on tcot is Tweeting close-up photos of scabies rash and going HURR HURR LOOK AT THIS INFECTIONS TEH ILLEGLES IS BRINGIN INTO ARE COUNTRY!!!!!!!

Not embedding that shit here.

644 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 9:12:45am

Topsail Island is a great vacation spot, BTW. Barrier island just south of Camp LeJeune.

645 Recreational Birth Control User  Jul 3, 2014 9:14:00am

Mexican and Hispanic immigrants have been coming into the Unites States since the beginning of the United states. But all the sudden now it is bad and most recently, filled with disease!!11!!11!!1

646 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 9:14:20am

re: #637 Justanotherhuman

That may have been specific to KY, because these women were alive, at least according to my relatives here in NC, who used that pronunciation. Regions, even smaller venues, take on their own pronunciations, usage, and meanings of words, of course.

OK, but were they widows? I got that the difference in pronunciation referred to their marital status in general, not just because of their decease.

647 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 9:15:35am

re: #646 wheat-dogghazi

OK, but were they widows? I got that the difference in pronunciation referred to their marital status in general, not just because of their decease.

Oh yeah, they were alive, of course! I meant to say they were married w/(ETA) alive husbands. My bad. : )

648 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2014 9:17:09am

OK, folks, we now have the most ridiculous claim about the NSA yet.

If that’s true, why would anyone click their clickbait? Good grief.

649 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 9:18:52am

Never met a camera they didn’t like.

They realize it doesn’t matter who’s elected, so just being publicity hounds.

650 Recreational Birth Control User  Jul 3, 2014 9:20:58am

re: #648 Charles Johnson

I just went to Boing Boing and read something there. I now await my deep permanent surveillance.

651 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2014 9:21:30am

re: #621 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m pretty happy. I found one of my favorite Czech TV series, Malý pitaval z velkého města archived on the Czech Television website.

I love this show. It’s from the early 1980s, and it’s about detectives in Prague going after various criminals. I’ll post the link, and you can watch it, even if you can’t understand the language.

ceskatelevize.cz

I found Czech bicycles to drool over. Found ‘em in the paper version of this.

652 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 3, 2014 9:21:51am

re: #648 Charles Johnson

OK, folks, we now have the most ridiculous claim about the NSA yet.

If that’s true, why would anyone click their clickbait? Good grief.

That makes absolutely no damn sense. Boing Boing is a news aggregator. Why would the NSA pay it the slightest bit of attention?

653 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2014 9:22:58am

re: #650 Recreational Birth Control User

I just went to Boing Boing and read something there. I now await my deep permanent surveillance.

Sounds relaxing, actually.

654 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2014 9:24:27am

re: #652 wheat-dogghazi

That makes absolutely no damn sense. Boing Boing is a news aggregator. Why would the NSA pay it the slightest bit of attention?

Because dudebros abound there, as well as a major dudesis. They just know they are being deeply, permanently watched.

655 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 9:25:03am

re: #651 wrenchwench

I found Czech bicycles to drool over. Found ‘em in the paper version of this.

I’ve only seen one person on a recumbent bike here in Ostrava. Maybe more people ride them in other parts of the country, but the bikes I’ve seen around town are the conventional ones. Now that the weather’s nice, I expect to see lots of bicyclists out and about.

656 Recreational Birth Control User  Jul 3, 2014 9:25:07am

re: #653 wrenchwench

Can’t wait till they get to the part where I try to decide if I should watch a Marathon of Farscape or Lexx.

657 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 9:25:45am

re: #648 Charles Johnson

OK, folks, we now have the most ridiculous claim about the NSA yet.

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If that’s true, why would anyone click their clickbait? Good grief.

Fellow at EFF. Conspiracy nut and perennial quitter of schools. Not to be confused with the brilliant writer, E. L. Doctorow.

658 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 9:27:22am

re:
#649

Wondered at first what you meant by “they” since the quote was McCain but then noticed the link with Graham. I shouldn’t have wondered. They speak with nearly one voice.

659 Mike Lamb  Jul 3, 2014 9:28:03am

re: #519 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Leave them out for the vultures

Hang them at ports of entry.

660 Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2014 9:28:06am

re: #601 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

yins

Yins guys N’at

661 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 9:29:12am

re:
#648

No idea what Boing Boing is. But as long as I don’t go there or read it I won’t be a “deep”, “permanent” target of the NSA. Good to know.

Except now I just typed the words. No going back now. /

662 Dr. Matt  Jul 3, 2014 9:30:59am

I love watching gun fails

Youtube Video

663 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 3, 2014 9:33:29am

re: #1 klys

Nothing creepy about references to the Homeland at all, no sirree.

It is creepy. Creepy as hell. How did this happen?

664 Dr Lizardo  Jul 3, 2014 9:34:56am

An unknown species of spider has been found in South Moravia, in the Macocha Abyss.

Caution, arachnophobes….there are photos of the critter at the link.

ceskenoviny.cz

If you’re wondering what the Macocha Abyss is, it’s a sinkhole in the Moravian Karst cave system. It’s about 450 feet deep, and the largest of its kind in Central Europe.

moravskykras.net

665 Justanotherhuman  Jul 3, 2014 9:35:07am

Nice little town, Southport.

666 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 9:36:24am

re: #624 Pie-onist Overlord

I use Tweetdeck but if I happen to go over to twitter.com I also see crap in my TL that I’m not following or RT’ed by people I’m following. I think these are “featured” spam Tweets.

Hey Twitter’s gotta make money somehow!

I can see that from the likes of the RNC/DNC/etc, but some schmoe with a bizarre opinion…who knows what people spend money on, though.

667 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2014 9:38:04am

re: #655 Dr Lizardo

I’ve only seen one person on a recumbent bike here in Ostrava. Maybe more people ride them in other parts of the country, but the bikes I’ve seen around town are the conventional ones. Now that the weather’s nice, I expect to see lots of bicyclists out and about.

There were no recumbents here when I arrived 20 years ago. But as time marches on, some cyclists have been told by their doctors to go recumbent or give it up. Some could not make the transition and ended up selling their ‘bents, but others continue to crank out the miles in a new position.

We also see lots of tourists on them, including this guy on bamboo:

668 Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2014 9:38:38am
669 wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2014 9:41:14am

re: #664 Dr Lizardo

An unknown species of spider has been found in South Moravia, in the Macocha Abyss.

Caution, arachnophobes….there are photos of the critter at the link.

ceskenoviny.cz

If you’re wondering what the Macocha Abyss is, it’s a sinkhole in the Moravian Karst cave system. It’s about 450 feet deep, and the largest of its kind in Central Europe.

moravskykras.net

That’s the other kind of jumping spider—the ones that would make me jump if I saw one in person. Pretty from a distance, though. I hope it’s content in its abyss.

670 b.d.  Jul 3, 2014 9:44:55am

I TOTALLY SO WANT ONE OF THESE SO I CAN INTERNET IN TEH PRIVATE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT WATCHING ME

671 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 9:45:43am

re: #668 Charles Johnson

[@jeremyduns @BradMossEsq @doctorow I clicked the link, and now the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up.]

That’s just the air conditioning. :-)

672 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 9:47:51am

Yet another idiot who thinks that workers earn “Free Stuff”
HURR HURR U SHUD BE WORKING JUST FOR TEH DIGNITY OF HAVING A JRRB!!! IF TEH JRRB CRATER GIVE U A SALARY OUT OF CHARITY & TEH GOODNES OF HIS HEART THAT’S JUST FREE STUFF 4 U LAZXY MOOCHER!!!!!

673 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 3, 2014 9:51:23am

re: #670 b.d.

I TOTALLY SO WANT ONE OF THESE SO I CAN INTERNET IN TEH PRIVATE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT WATCHING ME

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Gus needs to photoshop some snowden wallpaper on to that tablet.

674 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 9:54:35am

re: #672 Pie-onist Overlord

Yet another idiot who thinks that workers earn “Free Stuff”
HURR HURR U SHUD BE WORKING JUST FOR TEH DIGNITY OF HAVING A JRRB!!! IF TEH JRRB CRATER GIVE U A SALARY OUT OF CHARITY & TEH GOODNES OF HIS HEART THAT’S JUST FREE STUFF 4 U LAZXY MOOCHER!!!!!

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The brainwashing of people who believe all this baloney never ceases to amaze me. Aside from the women are sluts issue, there’s the whole JRB CREATORZ CAN DO NO WRONG! thing and the complete and utter inability to understand that the economy is driven by people buying crap, and having disposable income is the only time they can do that (or spend on credit cards, but that can only last so long).

The illiteracy relating to so many issues is a testament to the success of the likes of Limbaugh and Fox lies and distortions for going on for multiple decades.

I would feel sorry for these people except that they are standing in the way of, I can’t think of a more appropriate term right now, American success.

675 lawhawk  Jul 3, 2014 9:54:51am
676 Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2014 9:55:51am

re: #672 Pie-onist Overlord

Yet another idiot who thinks that workers earn “Free Stuff”
HURR HURR U SHUD BE WORKING JUST FOR TEH DIGNITY OF HAVING A JRRB!!! IF TEH JRRB CRATER GIVE U A SALARY OUT OF CHARITY & TEH GOODNES OF HIS HEART THAT’S JUST FREE STUFF 4 U LAZXY MOOCHER!!!!!

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They do realize it’s “free” birth control today or it’s “free” pre and post natal care tomorrow, right?

677 piratedan  Jul 3, 2014 9:58:22am

re: #675 lawhawk

what did that asshole think was going to happen while breathlessly catering to each of the so-called tenets that form the foundation of the Tea Party agenda? These asshats in the media yell fire in the crowded movie house and then breathlessly report the carnage and misery of those folks trapped while attempting to escape.

678 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 9:58:25am

re: #676 Targetpractice

They do realize it’s “free” birth control today or it’s “free” pre and post natal care tomorrow, right?

Hey, fuck those kids with sluts for mothers. Cut funding! Fetuses rule!

679 Ed E. Lishus  Jul 3, 2014 9:59:47am

re: #677 piratedan

I just read the article. McDaniel’s just using this as another chance to grift.

680 allegro  Jul 3, 2014 10:00:12am

re: #672 Pie-onist Overlord

Yet another idiot who thinks that workers earn “Free Stuff”
HURR HURR U SHUD BE WORKING JUST FOR TEH DIGNITY OF HAVING A JRRB!!! IF TEH JRRB CRATER GIVE U A SALARY OUT OF CHARITY & TEH GOODNES OF HIS HEART THAT’S JUST FREE STUFF 4 U LAZXY MOOCHER!!!!!

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This is so freaking bizarre to me. Men who are married/cohabitate with women are paying for birth control as well if for no other reason than the cost is coming from the total household budget. How stupid are they to not support full coverage without copay?

681 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 10:01:02am

re: #603 iossarian

Communique/Making Movies?

“Les Boys” might be my favorite Dire Straits song, but I love all the rock stuff. The count-in on Expresso Love is a thing of beauty.

“One… Two… One Two Three Four”

Love it.

First album, Love Over Gold, and Making Movies.

682 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 10:02:27am

re: #680 allegro

This is so freaking bizarre to me. Men who are married/cohabitate with women are paying for birth control as well if for no other reason than the cost is coming from the total household budget. How stupid are they to not support full coverage without copay?

These are guys who:
1 Have sex only with their palm
2 Don’t really know any women
3 Don’t care to know any women
4 See women as someone to make them a sammich
5 See life through a narrow window of religion trumps all
6 Have been brainwashed to believe anything out of the mouths of conservatives

683 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:03:47am

re: #678 Joanne

Hey, fuck those kids with sluts for mothers. Cut funding! Fetuses rule!

HURR HURR HOBBY LOBBY PAYS FOR 16 DIFFERNT FREE BIRTH CONTROLS!!!!! JUST NOT TEH ABORSHUN PILLS!!!!!!

Oh wait they also don’t allow a doctor to even TALK ABOUT those other babykilling options.

684 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 10:06:00am

re: #632 wheat-dogghazi

Back before it had a different connotation than now. Mistress was the female version of “Mister,” and “Mister” itself was an altered form of “Master.”

Just remember that they call him “Mister Tibbs”. “Heat Of the Night” is almost a documentary about some of the social conventions in the Old South.

685 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 10:06:21am

re: #683 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR HOBBY LOBBY PAYS FOR 16 DIFFERNT FREE BIRTH CONTROLS!!!!! JUST NOT TEH ABORSHUN PILLS!!!!!!

Oh wait they also don’t allow a doctor to even TALK ABOUT those other babykilling options.

Well, honestly…we wimmens are not smart enough to understand all that doctor speak without our mens being there to interpret…and tell us what to think of it all.

Ima gettin’ a case of the vapors. Point me to the nearest couch, please. <fanning self>

686 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 10:08:24am

re:
#675

The most important issue here is maintaining the integrity of the electoral process here in Mississippi, somehow hoping that some lost votes for me turn up somewhere and I can still win this thing.” McDaniel said.

687 piratedan  Jul 3, 2014 10:08:58am

re: #679 Ed E. Lishus

my response was geared more to the tweet issued by Senor Todd, I know that grifters are gonna grift (same as it ever was) just astounded at the level of oblivious obtuseness exhibited by Todd.

688 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 10:10:52am

re: #678 Joanne

Hey, fuck those kids with sluts for mothers. Cut funding! Fetuses rule!

I iz the new sheriff???

689 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:11:11am

HURR HURR!!!!!

690 Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2014 10:11:53am

re: #683 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR HOBBY LOBBY PAYS FOR 16 DIFFERNT FREE BIRTH CONTROLS!!!!! JUST NOT TEH ABORSHUN PILLS!!!!!!

Oh wait they also don’t allow a doctor to even TALK ABOUT those other babykilling options.

Hell, I didn’t know that part of their argument. So not only can you not get coverage for your pills, but if HL gets its way, just having the subject of pills broached during a doctor’s visit could mean your insurer refuses to cover the cost of the visit?

But hey, it’s only “closely held” companies that this applies to…who compromise 90% of the companies in the US…fuck, this country is so hosed.

691 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 10:12:07am

re: #689 Pie-onist Overlord

These guys are jerks just for sport.

692 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 10:12:10am

re:
#689

PJStrikeForce? As in Pajamas Media Strike Force? That’s just funny.

693 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 10:12:16am

My niece messaged me a picture from Wrightsville Beach. Looks wet and rainy, but not sea water in the streets yet. She says the surf is running 5-6’ waves right now.

694 Kragar  Jul 3, 2014 10:12:18am
695 Targetpractice  Jul 3, 2014 10:12:42am

re: #689 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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Force out the illegal invaders? Ok, when is the white man going back to Europe?

696 Joanne  Jul 3, 2014 10:13:50am

re: #695 Targetpractice

Force out the illegal invaders? Ok, when is the white man going back to Europe?

No, no…THOSE guyz iz ok.

697 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:13:51am

re: #692 Bulworth

re:
#689

PJStrikeForce? As in Pajamas Media Strike Force? That’s just funny.

I thought that has to be a parody account HAS TO BE but sadly no, it’s Teh Genuine Derp.

698 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 3, 2014 10:13:51am

re: #695 Targetpractice

Force out the illegal invaders? Ok, when is the white man going back to Europe?

Were there ever legal invaders? Though I guess the Romans paying the Saxons to settle the east coast of Britain might qualify.

699 Kragar  Jul 3, 2014 10:15:55am

re: #695 Targetpractice

Force out the illegal invaders? Ok, when is the white man going back to Europe?

California belonged to Mexico before the US annexed it after the Mexican-American war.

So lets talk about foreign invaders again.

700 Mike Lamb  Jul 3, 2014 10:16:04am

re: #689 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

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Yes! Let’s refuse to allow the buses to enter the Border Patrol facility so that they can be processed and returned to their country of origin!!

Leaving aside, momentarily, just the terrible nature of these people and their ability to consider undocumented migrants as sub-human, the stupidity of preventing the gov’t from processing and returning these kids/families is mind bottling….

701 The War TARDIS  Jul 3, 2014 10:21:24am

My have found someone through singlemuslim.com.

My grandma and Dad will have a cow though, as they are in another country.

Iran.

702 Kragar  Jul 3, 2014 10:21:24am
703 Gus  Jul 3, 2014 10:23:08am
704 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:24:11am

re: #701 The War TARDIS

My have found someone through singlemuslim.com.

My grandma and Dad will have a cow though, as they are in another country.

Iran.

Please be careful, I have read too much about the online romance scams.

705 Gus  Jul 3, 2014 10:25:54am
707 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 3, 2014 10:27:39am

re: #704 Pie-onist Overlord

Please be careful, I have read too much about the online romance scams.

My sister married a Muslim guy from Algeria and converted. I think he did it to get to the U.S. Be wary.

708 Kragar  Jul 3, 2014 10:28:14am

re: #705 Gus

709 Gus  Jul 3, 2014 10:28:14am
710 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:30:47am
711 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:32:44am
712 geoffm33  Jul 3, 2014 10:34:19am

I like to laugh at all these morans. But then I realize the are voters. And THAT is the fucking problem with this country.

713 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:35:08am

WHUT

714 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 3, 2014 10:35:23am

Blocked now.

715 The War TARDIS  Jul 3, 2014 10:36:04am

re: #704 Pie-onist Overlord

I am will be bringing an elder to help with this, He will help me socially. Also, she already has family here. In the smelliest state of the Union.

716 Bulworth  Jul 3, 2014 10:39:52am

re:
#705

Mexico, Honduras, Central Mexico America, hey man, just ship em somewhere and NO TAX $$$$$!!11111

717 gwangung  Jul 3, 2014 10:50:08am

re: #710 Pie-onist Overlord

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What a brain dead, self contradictory response.

718 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 3, 2014 12:31:02pm

re: #475 Lidane

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I hope that’s real and not photoshop.

719 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 3, 2014 12:31:56pm

re: #476 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow. That’s the kind of righteous we should all aspire to.


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