Breitbart “News” Says Dark-Skinned Teen Actor Is “Obama Look-Alike,” Commenters Wish Death on the President

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Breitbart “News” crack journalist Tony Lee has yet another BREAKING BOMBSHELL SCOOP today, a US Customs and Border Protection advertisement that features a dark-skinned Central American actor who “dies” trying to cross the border into the US.

What?! A dark-skinned actor? To the Breitbrats this can mean only one thing, because they do all look alike, don’t they? OBAMA LOOK-ALIKE DIES IN US BORDER PROTECTION COMMERCIAL AIMED AT MIGRANTS.

Of course, if you watch the video they posted you discover there really isn’t much of a resemblance at all; the actor is a teenager.

This absurdly stereotypical post gets the Breitbart audience all worked up, of course, because that’s what it was designed to do; they react by wishing death on the President.

On July 4th.

Be still my beating heart.

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Fake? Damnnnnit quick toying with my emotions! I was happy at the news until I found out it was a commercial.

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Obama is waging war on the traditional white-European American demographic. He is crushing them economically and he will further use the people from foreign countries to batter the citizen culturally and politically. His disdain for America is deep and he will do whatever he can to destroy her.

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We all know what we’re wishing…

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And they said there are no FEEL GOOD videos any more!

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Obama the illegal alien. A cameo appearance!

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We couldn;t be so lucky! I pray every day AF 1 goes down.

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The only thing wrong with that video I that they used a look alike………

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Speaking of diversions I wonder what the Muslims in the White House are planning while the country is being distracted by the illegals.

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I don’t want to see him die like that…I want him to get cancer and a bad doctor…..

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I have NEVER thought of this before and can’t believe I am about to say this. I think it’s time our country had Her first military coup.

As I write this, there are almost 800 comments in the thread, just dripping with hatred, overt racism, xenophobia and calls for revolution and military takeover. And lots of comments calling for the President’s death.

That’s what these kinds of posts are intended to provoke — it’s the Breitbart “News” business model.

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181 comments
1 BroncD  Jul 4, 2014 1:16:51pm
“We couldn;t be so lucky! I pray every day AF 1 goes down.”

Gee, I wonder why Jesus hasn’t fulfilled that prayer.

2 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 4, 2014 1:20:05pm
Obama is waging war on the traditional white-European American demographic.

smh

3 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 1:21:46pm

re: #2 Rev_Arthur_Belling

smh

I can’t say that surprises me. Overt white ethnocentrism is becoming more and more out in the open on the right with every passing day.

4 Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2014 1:23:33pm

If you’re praying for someone to die, ur doin it wrong.

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 1:23:48pm

CONFIRMED. FACT.

6 Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2014 1:23:59pm

The right wing base is utterly vile.

7 nsmith25  Jul 4, 2014 1:25:13pm

From downstairs. I had a crush on her in High School, so I’m enjoying getting to repost:
The Woman to support for the next Senator from the State of Kentucky at the Lexington KY, 4th of July Parade. We support you Alison.
DITCH MITCH

8 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 4, 2014 1:25:37pm

I guess it’s not surprising, but I really can’t comprehend how people can be filled with such hate and not get eaten up by it.

9 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 4, 2014 1:25:44pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

If you’re praying for someone to die, ur doin it wrong.

I won’t godwin the thread. ///

But yeah. It never got so bad under Bush, even while all the accusations of “treason” were being thrown around (by these same people).

10 Egregious Philbin  Jul 4, 2014 1:25:57pm

So many mouthbreathers out there. Polarized, raised on hate radio, completely lacking the ability to think without hate.

11 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 1:26:47pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The right wing base is utterly vile.

TCOT is full of hating the President on the 4th of July.

12 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 1:26:50pm

re: #2 Rev_Arthur_Belling

smh

White-eyes speaks with Indo-european tongue.

13 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 1:29:15pm

This white ethnocentrism we’re seeing now is in its infancy, in my opinion. As the US changes demographically, it’s going to become increasingly shrill.

14 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 4, 2014 1:30:05pm

re: #13 Dr Lizardo

This white ethnocentrism we’re seeing now is in its infancy, in my opinion. As the US changes demographically, it’s going to become increasingly shrill.

As a white male, I pray you’re wrong.

15 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 1:30:08pm

re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord

CONFIRMED. FACT.

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FACT: The conservatives of today would have opposed the Civil War. That’s simply not open to debate. #caring #TCOT #UniteBlue

16 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 4, 2014 1:31:33pm

re: #15 Gus

They would’ve supported it. If the South attacked. /

17 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 1:33:36pm

re: #14 Rev_Arthur_Belling

As a white male, I pray you’re wrong.

As a white male myself too I hope I’m wrong.

My fear is that it won’t be confined to mere shrill shrieking or incendiary rhetoric; my fear is that will become genuinely violent, and not just intimidation tactics, but outright wholesale murder of minorities by white ethnocentrists who’ve worked themselves up into an absolute frenzy.

18 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 1:35:22pm
19 EPR-radar  Jul 4, 2014 1:35:26pm

re: #8 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I guess it’s not surprising, but I really can’t comprehend how people can be filled with such hate and not get eaten up by it.

Who says they aren’t getting eaten up by their hate? They are, and this is a big part of why the GOP base gets more evil and deluded with every passing year.

20 Targetpractice  Jul 4, 2014 1:37:41pm

re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord

CONFIRMED. FACT.

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Really? The people who think that voting should be restricted to the landed gentry, believe that wealth and status equal authority, and deride the idea that the unwashed masses should be trusted with freedom and liberty are the ones who’d have supported the Revolution?

21 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 1:39:44pm

re: #17 Dr Lizardo

As a white male myself too I hope I’m wrong.

My fear is that it won’t be confined to mere shrill shrieking or incendiary rhetoric; my fear is that will become genuinely violent, and not just intimidation tactics, but outright wholesale murder of minorities by white ethnocentrists who’ve worked themselves up into an absolute frenzy.

Coming up on the 150th anniversary of the lynch era.

22 Eventual Carrion  Jul 4, 2014 1:41:55pm

re: #1 BroncD

Gee, I wonder why Jesus hasn’t fulfilled that prayer.

Because when Jesus talks back to him, Jesus calls him an asshole. So he dismisses it as the devil trying to dissuade him.

23 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 4, 2014 1:42:44pm

re: #19 EPR-radar

Who says they aren’t getting eaten up by their hate? They are, and this is a big part of why the GOP base gets more evil and deluded with every passing year.

That is a good point. I guess I can’t fathom that level of evil. I think it would eventually consume itself, but maybe I’m naive that way.

24 missliberties  Jul 4, 2014 1:45:11pm

Scary stuff.

Has it always been the bad? Or do the internets make it seem worse?

25 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 4, 2014 1:46:26pm

re: #24 missliberties

Scary stuff.

Has it always been the bad? Or do the internets make it seem worse?

I think the Internets only magnify what was already there. JFK was the target of a lot of hate, after all.

26 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 1:46:44pm

re: #24 missliberties

Scary stuff.

Has it always been the bad? Or do the internets make it seem worse?

It’s never been this good. Really.

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2014 1:48:11pm

You’d think the Breitbart folks might ever just shut the hell up for one day and let us celebrate America in peace?

28 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 1:49:06pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think the Breitbart folks might ever just shut the hell up for one day and let us celebrate America in peace?

If they shut their mouths they disappear, like a Cheshire Rat.

29 klys  Jul 4, 2014 1:49:28pm

I’d like to think that my grandfather would have looked at all of this and turned his back on it, but I’m not sure. I guess I’m glad that I’ll never know for sure, because the disappointment of seeing him embrace it would have hurt.

He passed away from an aortic aneurysm, heart attack, and stroke four years ago today. I woke up to calls from my dad letting me know what was happening as they frantically tried to finish driving home from WI so my dad could fly out. Grandpa died within 12 hours.

His tombstone reads “Husband. Father. Patriot.” and that’s true. Grandpa was the most patriotic person I knew, from his 20 years in the Air Force on. He was a Chief Master Sergeant who didn’t take shit. He was a Texan.

This is what the 4th means for me now, every year. Thinking about you, Grandpa.

30 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 4, 2014 1:50:46pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

If they shut their mouths they disappear, like a Cheshire Rat.

From your lips to a noodle appendage.

31 sagehen  Jul 4, 2014 1:51:23pm

re: #7 nsmith25

From downstairs. I had a crush on her in High School, so I’m enjoying getting to repost:
The Woman to support for the next Senator from the State of Kentucky at the Lexington KY, 4th of July Parade. We support you Alison.
DITCH MITCH

Was this a crush from afar, a pal too afraid to say anything, or did you ask her out and get rejected?

32 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 1:56:15pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think the Breitbart folks might ever just shut the hell up for one day and let us celebrate America in peace?

I’m celebrating at the moment with a glass of wine and watching Blossom the cockatoo bomb the dog with silverware she’s pulling out of the sink.

33 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 4, 2014 1:57:10pm

OT but menu for this afternoon:

Grilled Mojo pork spare ribs.
Moros y Cristianos.
Corn on the cob.
Cold slaw.

For Lightning Hopkins fans, a different kind of mojo:

Youtube Video

34 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 1:58:25pm

re: #32 allegro

I’m celebrating at the moment with a glass of wine and watching Blossom the cockatoo bomb the dog with silverware she’s pulling out of the sink.

Faucet fixed?

35 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 4, 2014 1:58:35pm

re: #24 missliberties

Scary stuff.

Has it always been the bad? Or do the internets make it seem worse?

It’s been worse. It’s important to remember that, although a lot of these assholes are trying to turn back the clock on society accepting racism and other kinds of reactionary shit, we actually are advancing on those issues. Nothing is fair yet, we have a long way to go, but John Lewis is sitting in congress and not being beaten down with a truncheon.

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2014 2:00:00pm

re: #32 allegro

I’m celebrating at the moment with a glass of wine and watching Blossom the cockatoo bomb the dog with silverware she’s pulling out of the sink.

pictures! We NEED pictures!!!!!!!!

37 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 2:02:47pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Faucet fixed?

Hell no. I did go to Lowe’s and buy one along with the miscellaneous other stuff recommended. It’s sitting on the counter, still in the box.The friend who’s going to help me (meaning he’ll install it while I read the directions to him) isn’t here yet.

38 Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2014 2:04:09pm

Meanwhile, Boing Boing continues hyping their bogus clickbait story.

39 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 2:04:39pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

pictures! We NEED pictures!!!!!!!!

LOL I tried! I was cracking up so hard it took me too long fumbling with the camera in my Surface. I missed it.

40 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 4, 2014 2:05:37pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

No joke: If you read @BoingBoing, the NSA considers you a target for deep surveillance. boingboing.net …

It is indeed no joke - rather, it’s pure misinformation. Boing Boing, however, is a joke.

41 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:06:05pm

re: #37 allegro

Hell no. I did go to Lowe’s and buy one along with the miscellaneous other stuff recommended. It’s sitting on the counter, still in the box.The friend who’s going to help me (meaning he’ll install it while I read the directions to him) isn’t here yet.

If it’s the modern tech with stainless flexline, it’s really only about 20 min work.

42 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 2:07:02pm
43 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:07:14pm

And this page is suddenly getting a lot of RTs.

44 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2014 2:07:36pm

And of course the first thing I see on my FB feed is Lee Greenwood.

45 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2014 2:08:24pm

re: #39 allegro

LOL I tried! I was cracking up so hard it took me too long fumbling with the camera in my Surface. I missed it.

dammit…
A video would have been even better.

46 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:08:24pm

Off to recharge the charcoal and rotate the ribs.

“If you’re lookin’, you aint cookin’.”

47 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:08:29pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

If it’s the modern tech with stainless flexline, it’s really only about 20 min work.

Would that be after the hour and a half of trying to get the old one-welded in place by corrosion-off?

48 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 2:09:03pm

re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg

That guy gravy-trained that mediocre song for every cent he could.

49 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:09:34pm

re: #47 calochortus

Would that be after the hour and a half of trying to get the old one-welded in place by corrosion-off?

Depends on how fatted the calf was. You did sacrifice a calf?

50 ausador  Jul 4, 2014 2:09:43pm

;)

Prevent Bang?

Engrish indeed…

51 danarchy  Jul 4, 2014 2:10:13pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

If it’s the modern tech with stainless flexline, it’s really only about 20 min work.

That’s what I thought the last time I had to swap mine out. Unfortunately rust and extraordinarily cramped quarters and I had a working faucet about 4 hours later.

52 nsmith25  Jul 4, 2014 2:10:58pm

re: #31 sagehen

Was this a crush from afar, a pal too afraid to say anything, or did you ask her out and get rejected?

We went to different High Schools, had some mutual acquaintances, but I was much too shy back then to ever ask her out. Thing is now I teach at the HS she graduated from.

53 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2014 2:11:09pm

re: #48 Kid A

That guy gravy-trained that mediocre song for every cent he could.

Which I begrudgingly give him credit for, it’s certainly a way of keep oneself relevant.

54 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:11:14pm

re: #51 danarchy

That’s what I thought the last time I had to swap mine out. Unfortunately rust and extraordinarily cramped quarters and I had a working faucet about 4 hours later.

Hey. We’re trying to prevent a wine-soaked meltdown here.

55 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:11:20pm

re: #42 Kid A

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What a bunch of assholes.

56 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:11:22pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Off to recharge the charcoal and rotate the ribs.

“If you’re lookin’, you aint cookin’.”

Maybe and maybe not.

57 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 4, 2014 2:11:27pm

re: #50 ausador

At least it goes out with a bang.

58 PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2014 2:11:31pm

re: #50 ausador

That was on the back inside cover of Consumer Reports a few months ago. I am still trying to figure it out. /half

59 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:12:18pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Depends on how fatted the calf was. You did sacrifice a calf?

Oh. That explains it. I used chicken sacrifices. And a lot of WD 40, and the right size basin wrench.

60 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:14:54pm

re: #56 calochortus

Maybe and maybe not.

I’m using a Weber, the one I bought in 1980. Note its heat-loss profile. (I use a handheld electronic thermometer , working from three points around the perimeter.)

61 missliberties  Jul 4, 2014 2:15:48pm

re: #35 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’s been worse. It’s important to remember that, although a lot of these assholes are trying to turn back the clock on society accepting racism and other kinds of reactionary shit, we actually are advancing on those issues. Nothing is fair yet, we have a long way to go, but John Lewis is sitting in congress and not being beaten down with a truncheon.

Thank You. I find that a comfort. I dunno. This stuff is starting to get to me. It is affecting my attitude.

It’s like watching a train wreck where you know people are gonna get hurt, but you just can’t take your eyes away. Worse that so much of this hate is based on pure political propaganda spewed by the right wing elites. Provoking revolution for the sake of political gain?

The reality, I believe is there is a minority of folks with really loud voices who know how to work the media to their advantage, and they do it with a professional precision. It is true that you don’t need a majority to win elections just a really motivated base. I don’t want these haters to be anywhere close to the levers of power.

It worries me to see so much hate on the Fourth of July. People used to at least pretend to be more civil.

62 ausador  Jul 4, 2014 2:16:30pm

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

That was on the back inside cover of Consumer Reports a few months ago. I am still trying to figure it out. /half

Then I guess you have seen this one too (if you read consumer reports).

Panda?

63 PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2014 2:17:33pm

re: #62 ausador

That one I did not see but like the battery it is a good one. :)

64 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:18:00pm

The gluten free graham crackers are out of the oven. They still need to cool and harden up a bit more, but THEY’RE GOOD*! Yay. Mr. Calochortus will have S’mores on the camping trip.

*as with all GF baking, they’re not quite the same as wheat based because, you know, there’s no wheat in them. But flavor and texture are better than just acceptable.

65 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 2:18:21pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

If it’s the modern tech with stainless flexline, it’s really only about 20 min work.

It’s a Pfister pull-out model. Very cool.

66 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:20:39pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

I’m using a Weber, the one I bought in 1980. Note its heat-loss profile. (I use a handheld electronic thermometer , working from three points around the perimeter.)

True confessions, I don’t actually use the barbeque myself. That’s men’s work, and all. I just thought I’d offer a contrarian opinion.

67 PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2014 2:22:43pm

re: #64 calochortus

Cooks Illustrated has a gluten free cookbook and a news letter if you are interested. cooksillustrated.com

68 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 2:23:24pm

Passing time at the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston. Hipstamatic iPhone, John S lens, Sugar film.

69 ausador  Jul 4, 2014 2:29:49pm

re: #64 calochortus

The gluten free graham crackers are out of the oven. They still need to cool and harden up a bit more, but THEY’RE GOOD*! Yay. Mr. Calochortus will have S’mores on the camping trip.

Since you’re in the market for gluten free products…

Cholesterol-free too!

70 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 2:30:36pm

Her Majesty back at play at about 3:00 after her nap…

I did not give her that Tabasco sauce.

71 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:30:36pm

re: #66 calochortus

True confessions, I don’t actually use the barbeque myself. That’s men’s work, and all. I just thought I’d offer a contrarian opinion.

In the 1960s, wife’s family traveled from Deepest Tennessee to Louisville to meet her Yankee newlywed. I grilled for them. Her great-something aunt went into the trailer and told her: “Your husband’s outside cookin’. I never thought I’d live to see a man lift his hand to cook.”

72 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 2:30:50pm

re: #68 Kid A

Do they still give those little metal tags to show you’ve paid admission? I remember both MFAH and the Museum of Natural Science having them but it’s been years since I’ve gone to either.

73 Timothy Watson  Jul 4, 2014 2:32:20pm

re: #50 ausador

;)

Prevent Bang?

Engrish indeed…

Sounds like one of the Hybrids on (the reimagined) Battlestar Galactica.

74 danarchy  Jul 4, 2014 2:33:02pm

re: #67 PhillyPretzel

Cooks Illustrated has a gluten free cookbook and a news letter if you are interested. cooksillustrated.com

I am pretty convinced that the whole gluten free thing is just the latest fad. The evidence for non-ciliac gluten sensitivity is tenuous at best. I think most people who feel better on a gluten free diet are doing so for one of two reasons, either they expect to feel better so they do, or they are just paying more attention to what they eat and thus are just generally eating a healthier diet.

75 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:33:54pm

re: #67 PhillyPretzel

Cooks Illustrated has a gluten free cookbook and a news letter if you are interested. cooksillustrated.com

Thank you. I have seen it and am mulling over its purchase. Unfortunately (from my point of view) their baked recipes use psyllium husk rather than other gums to provide cohesion. I have nothing against psyllium husk, but I’m not sure where I can get it locally, and besides, my pantry currently contains 10 (at least) kinds of flour and 3 kinds of starches along with xanthan gum, guar gum and a couple of pre-mixed flour/starch combos for when I am too lazy to measure out 1 c. +1 Tbsp of 2 different flours, 2/3 c. of starch A and 1/4 c. of starch B and just a pinch of eye of newt (or whatever the hell it is they want.)

Can you tell I get a little teeny bit tired of all this from time to time? ;)
Still my husband feels so much better than he used to. Most of the time anyway. Who knew wasabi almonds had wheat in them? He said it was a good test of whether the gluten intolerance was all psychosomatic. It’s not.

76 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:34:22pm

This idiot tried to put me on his stupid list.

77 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 2:34:30pm

About an hour later, the fallout…

Bombs away!

Note the silverware. LOL I had swept that floor while dear Blossom was enjoying her afternoon repose. That’s how fast that pink chicken can take out a wood block.

78 PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2014 2:34:50pm

re: #74 danarchy

It might be but there are quite a few groups who say this is helpful to them. As for me I am not into whatever the latest fad diet is. It costs too much.

79 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:35:28pm

re: #69 ausador

I’ll remember that next time a recipe calls for toilet bowl cleaner.

80 allegro  Jul 4, 2014 2:36:40pm

Now…

Happy 4th of July!

81 TedStriker  Jul 4, 2014 2:39:21pm

re: #75 calochortus

Thank you. I have seen it and am mulling over its purchase. Unfortunately (from my point of view) their baked recipes use psyllium husk rather than other gums to provide cohesion. I have nothing against psyllium husk, but I’m not sure where I can get it locally, and besides, my pantry currently contains 10 (at least) kinds of flour and 3 kinds of starches along with xanthan gum, guar gum and a couple of pre-mixed flour/starch combos for when I am too lazy to measure out 1 c. +1 Tbsp of 2 different flours, 2/3 c. of starch A and 1/4 c. of starch B and just a pinch of eye of newt (or whatever the hell it is they want.)

Can you tell I get a little teeny bit tired of all this from time to time? ;)
Still my husband feels so much better than he used to. Most of the time anyway. Who knew wasabi almonds had wheat in them? He said it was a good test of whether the gluten intolerance was all psychosomatic. It’s not.

Psyllium husk is the active ingredient in Metamucil and its generic equivalents; I guess you can try to find some of the unflavored kind over in the health/beauty section and try it.

82 sagehen  Jul 4, 2014 2:39:41pm

AMC is marathoning Walking Dead all weekend; they’re in early season 2 now. They just met Maggie and Herschel, T-Dog and Dale are on the highway, Shane is being an asshole, Andrea’s a whiny screamer unable to defend herself, Carl just got shot…

83 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:40:01pm
84 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 2:41:21pm

re: #72 Lidane

No, they’ve “modernized” to stickers.

85 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:42:13pm
86 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:42:33pm
87 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:42:43pm

re: #74 danarchy

I am pretty convinced that the whole gluten free thing is just the latest fad. The evidence for non-ciliac gluten sensitivity is tenuous at best. I think most people who feel better on a gluten free diet are doing so for one of two reasons, either they expect to feel better so they do, or they are just paying more attention to what they eat and thus are just generally eating a healthier diet.

The fact that it is a fad doesn’t mean people don’t have actual gluten intolerance. My husband had serious digestive issues and pain (like ER room visit levels of pain a couple times) It was always diagnosed as IBS or “you need more fiber” and he suffered for decades. 3 years ago he dropped gluten from his diet and is much, much better. He does have some issues with beans and pulses if he eats too many, so it might have something to do with digesting various saccharides as well, but the point is even if it isn’t gluten per se, it is strongly associated with wheat, rye, and barley, so a gluten free diet works for him.

The fact that there are a lot of people who “just feel better” when they avoid gluten, doesn’t mean that there aren’t people whose lives are made easier by having food faddists wanting gluten-free products.

The study that is often referred to by people saying there is no such thing as gluten intolerance is a study of something like 3 dozen people who self reported gluten intolerance. I’m not sure of its validity.

88 sagehen  Jul 4, 2014 2:43:33pm

re: #85 Gus

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You can still do that.

It was an attempted City ordinance (nothing to do with Obama or any other part of the federal gov’t), thrown out by a judge.

89 Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2014 2:43:57pm

re: #80 allegro

Now…

Happy 4th of July!

Pink Chicken LOL.

Have a great 4th everyone, I’m out to a friends pool partay and bbq.

90 sagehen  Jul 4, 2014 2:45:01pm

re: #87 calochortus

Gluten intolerance, like ADHD, is a real true thing for about 10% of the people who think they have it.

91 Zamb  Jul 4, 2014 2:45:30pm

re: #85 Gus

Under Bush I was unable to buy my coke in gallons. I never felt more oppressed.

92 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 2:46:46pm
93 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 2:46:54pm

re: #88 sagehen

You can still do that.

It was an attempted City ordinance (nothing to do with Obama or any other part of the federal gov’t), thrown out by a judge.

94 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:00pm

re: #84 Kid A

No, they’ve “modernized” to stickers.

That sucks. I loved those little pins.

95 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:12pm

Watching some Wacken 2013.

Youtube Video

96 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:16pm

re: #81 TedStriker

Psyllium husk is the active ingredient in Metamucil and its generic equivalents; I guess you can try to find some of the unflavored kind over in the health/beauty section and try it.

I know, I’m just not sure if the measurement would translate accurately. As I said, the worst part of gluten free baking is the sheer number of ingredients you need to replace wheat flour in various recipes. Every cookbook author/blogger has their favorites and one ends up with zillions of different ones. Thank heavens that Bob’s Red Mill seems to have them all.

97 ausador  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:18pm

This one is a perfect example of uninformed jingoism in action. 29,000+ reviews on Cafe Press that average 4.3 stars…

Not Really J/K

98 andres  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:29pm

re: #25 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I think the Internets only magnify what was already there. JFK was the target of a lot of hate, after all.

… which reminds me of my visit to the JFK Museum in Dallas. It’s one of the facts that is lost on the retelling. My USA History isn’t good, but I didn’t know the amount of hate JFK went thru. It was chilling seeing that much hate.

99 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:38pm

re: #85 Gus

0_0

100 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 2:47:46pm

re: #91 Zamb

Under Bush I was unable to buy my coke in gallons. I never felt more oppressed.

I buy my Rover’s gas in Imperial Gallons, get much better mileage. Silly Colonials.

101 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 2:48:51pm

Neymar being carried off in a stretcher. Wow.

Colobmia better hustle if they want this game to last past stoppage time.

102 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 2:54:51pm

Someone at work today gave me these cool matchbooks. Inside were paper pickets embedded with Serrano Chili pepper seeds.

103 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 2:57:23pm

What a surprise.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2014 3:00:27pm

Oh, Bossy Rena, your last name is “Clueless Irony”:

Guess what Bossy Rena? You STILL have the freedom to choose your own doctor!
What’s that? Your insurance won’t cover out-of-network providers?
Hey, that’s the cost of FREEDUMB!!
Pay for it yourself if your insurance, for which you pay premiums, won’t pay for it.

//gawd…the disconnect…

105 jaunte  Jul 4, 2014 3:07:30pm

re: #93 Gus

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But I can’t bring home a bucket full of beer from the pub like great-granddad could!!!

106 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 3:07:54pm
107 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 3:08:17pm
108 TedStriker  Jul 4, 2014 3:11:29pm

re: #107 Gus

I get to count Jackson as a fellow Tennessean, even though she’s a transplant and I’ve lived here my entire life.

Damn, she’s dumber than a box of rocks, with a streak of mean and derp.

109 Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2014 3:12:26pm

re: #107 Gus

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Be fair. It’s not like she’s ever been exposed to satire.

110 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 3:13:15pm

I hate Scott Walker with the heat of a thousand suns. But I give his son credit for being real here.

Scott Walker’s son acted as witness in gay marriage

Gov. Scott Walker may be having a little trouble stating his position on gay marriage these days.

Not so his son Alex.

Alex Walker, who will be a sophomore this fall at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, recently acted as the state-required witness to a gay marriage in Waukesha County.

Records show Shelli Marquardt and Cathy Priem married at the Waukesha County Courthouse on June 9. Alex Walker, 19, scribbled his signature on the marriage certificate as one of two adult witnesses to the wedding. The certificate is on file with the Waukesha County register of deeds.

111 TedStriker  Jul 4, 2014 3:15:19pm

re: #110 Amory Blaine

I hate Scott Walker with the heat of a thousand suns. But I give his son credit for being real here.

Scott Walker’s son acted as witness in gay marriage

I wonder if Walker’s disowned his son by now…

///half

112 Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2014 3:16:50pm

Victoria Jackson is one of those wingnuts who’s so mentally challenged, it almost seems mean to make fun of her - or it would if she weren’t also so hateful and bigoted. An incredibly stupid person.

113 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 3:18:15pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

I used to like her whimsical stage manner back on SNL. Ugghh.

114 BroncD  Jul 4, 2014 3:18:52pm
You can still do that.

It was an attempted City ordinance (nothing to do with Obama or any other part of the federal gov’t), thrown out by a judge.

You’d think that Hannity, a New Yorker, would know this. Oh, wait. He does know. He’s just milking the ignorant masses for clicks.

115 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 3:21:37pm

Well, had a nice visit w/a friend and the munchkin splashed around in the lake and didn’t want to leave. I sat on the dock w/my friend and ate watermelon.

Then I have to come home to this stupidity the RW just can’t seem to stop, although I have to remember this is mostly just internet bullshit.

I’ll bet if I mentioned “Breitbart” to anyone I know holds RW views, they would say, “Who?”

116 TedStriker  Jul 4, 2014 3:26:35pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Victoria Jackson is one of those wingnuts who’s so mentally challenged, it almost seems mean to make fun of her - or it would if she weren’t also so hateful and bigoted. An incredibly stupid person.

Every time I watch UHF, I have to console myself with the notion that neither Jackson, nor Michael Richards, were publicly known as cray-cray bigots at that time.

Besides, Weird Al (and Kevin McCarthy) pwns all.

117 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 3:26:58pm

And as a last 4th of July treat, “Stars and Stripes Forever” conducted by Mstislav Rostropovich at the Grande of the Halls of Tchaikovsky Moscow Conservatory on February 13th, 1990.

Youtube Video

118 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 3:27:40pm
119 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 3:28:43pm

Actually, the President has been here this afternoon…

120 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 3:28:54pm

What is wrong with visiting a mosque today ?!@?!!

121 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 3:29:53pm

re: #113 Amory Blaine

I used to like her whimsical stage manner back on SNL. Ugghh.

I used to think her dimwit act on SNL was an act. Then she became a teabagger and proved me wrong.

122 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 3:30:23pm

re: #120 Amory Blaine

What is wrong with visiting a Mosque today ?!@?!!

Aw come on. Anything Obama does must be wrong and positively unAmerican.

123 sagehen  Jul 4, 2014 3:30:56pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, Bossy Rena, your last name is “Clueless Irony”:

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Guess what Bossy Rena? You STILL have the freedom to choose your own doctor!
What’s that? Your insurance won’t cover out-of-network providers?
Hey, that’s FREEDUM!!
Pay for it yourself if your insurance, for which you pay premiums, won’t pay for it.

//gawd…the disconnect…

Or choose an insurer whose network includes that provider… (that’s how most of us choose our insurance; asked my primary care doc what networks she’s in and those were the ones I could pick from).

124 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 3:30:59pm

Watching Live At Pompeii.

125 CuriousLurker  Jul 4, 2014 3:31:41pm

Just a quick reminder of how bad things aren’t for us. I read a news report from Lebanon this morning which said that:

The so-called Free Sunni Brigades in Baalbek said on its Twitter feed late Wednesday that militants would attack churches in Lebanon.

It said the jihadists were tasked with “cleansing the Islamic state of Bekaa in particular and Lebanon in general from the churches.” […]

To which the Lebanese Interior Minister responded:

Al-Mashnouq rejected such threats, saying “we are keen on protecting every inch of the nation’s land.”

“We will defend our churches and mosques with all the power we have,” he said in remarks to al-Mustaqbal daily published on Friday.

He also vowed to “cut the hands” off wrongdoers. […]

naharnet.com

Heh, he’s basically threatening to open up a can of Sharia style whoop-ass on any jihadis who get out of line trying to establish their “Caliphate”. That would basically be like Eric Holder or Jeh Johnson announcing they were gonna start putting troublemakers in stocks in the town square or whatever.

So, yeah, no matter how bad any of us think we have it here… O_o

Happy 4th, lizards. ;)

126 Gus  Jul 4, 2014 3:32:26pm
127 Zamb  Jul 4, 2014 3:35:51pm

re: #123 sagehen

Or choose an insurer whose network includes that provider… (that’s how most of us choose our insurance; asked my primary care doc what networks she’s in and those were the ones I could pick from).

Don’t you understand? Before Obamacare all doctors everywhere were in all networks and healthcare was cheap as a loaf of bread.

128 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 3:36:04pm

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

And as a last 4th of July treat, “Stars and Stripes Forever” conducted by Mstislav Rostropovich at the Grande of the Halls of Tchaikovsky Moscow Conservatory on February 13th, 1990.

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Video

It’s a very “martial” tune, isn’t it? Sousa’s entire body of work was marches, wasn’t it?

We kids used to sing,

Be kind to your fine feathered friends,
For a duck may be somebody’s brother…

129 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 3:36:16pm

We got a bunch of shit to grill tonight. The boy is doing it all (bonus for me). I can hardly wait.

130 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 4, 2014 3:37:23pm

Glad to see Jim Wright is still posting (and hitting it out of the park in his own straightforward style.) I was afraid he was going to close up shop after he had an article stolen.

stonekettle.com

131 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 3:38:00pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

It’s a very “martial” tune, isn’t it? Sousa’s entire body of work was marches, wasn’t it?

We kids used to sing,

Be kind to your fine feathered friends,
For a duck may be somebody’s brother…

Yep, Sousa was marches. “Stars and Stripes Forever” is probably my favorite.

132 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 4, 2014 3:41:45pm

From Boneyard Safari:

133 PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2014 3:44:49pm

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

That was very nice. Thanks.

134 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 3:45:59pm

Is that KT’s abode? : )

135 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 3:46:50pm

re: #133 PhillyPretzel

That was very nice. Thanks.

My pleasure.

136 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 3:48:31pm
137 jaunte  Jul 4, 2014 3:51:09pm
138 The War TARDIS  Jul 4, 2014 3:52:21pm

re: #125 CuriousLurker

Found out yesterday that the whackadoodle who knocked off the Sphinx’s nose was actually executed by the leader of Egypt of the time.

Grandfather was impressed to hear that in regards to historical preservation, but thought that Execution was overkill.

139 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 3:57:04pm
140 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 3:58:40pm

re: #98 andres

… which reminds me of my visit to the JFK Museum in Dallas. It’s one of the facts that is lost on the retelling. My USA History isn’t good, but I didn’t know the amount of hate JFK went thru. It was chilling seeing that much hate.

141 jaunte  Jul 4, 2014 3:59:04pm

Dogs Flew Spaceships!

142 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 4:00:25pm

re: #126 Gus

143 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 4:02:05pm

re: #141 jaunte

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Dogs Flew Spaceships!

So much fail in one little Tweet.

As a particular Dark Lord of the Sith would say,

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144 EPR-radar  Jul 4, 2014 4:03:12pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

It’s a very “martial” tune, isn’t it? Sousa’s entire body of work was marches, wasn’t it?

We kids used to sing,

Be kind to your fine feathered friends,
For a duck may be somebody’s brother…

I still remember the start of this version of the Battle Hymn of the Republic:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school
We have tortured all the teachers and broken all the rules

145 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 4:03:38pm

Of course her comments make sense. Everyone in the US is entitled to defend him or herself from charges. You don’t believe in this, GG? You just want your boy to get off scot free. Ain’t gonna happen. The Guardian is just trying to muddy the waters with this kind of thing about the US Espionage Act, first, because a good lawyer will mount a defense, no matter what The Guardian thinks of the difference between spy and whistle blower (and they just assume Snowden is a whistle blower in their own broad definition); and no, Clinton nor anyone else but those who prepared the charges know exactly what they are, so why should she comment on something she doesn’t know the precise details about?

“The broadly worded law makes no distinction between a spy and a whistleblower and affords Snowden almost no recourse to a defence.

“The former NSA employee is likely to face a number of additional charges should he return to the US.

“When Clinton was asked if she believed the Espionage Act - passed in 1917 - should be reformed in order to allow Snowden a defence, she claimed not to know what the whistleblower had been charged with as they were “sealed indictments”.

“Ben Wizner, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, said: “The laws would not provide him any opportunity to say that the information never should have been withheld from the public in the first place.”

Oh, please. You don’t get the opportunity to say what you think should never have been withheld from the public. It’s not your place to say that since you’re not a person in a position to write, pass or reject a law. That is the job of Congress. If you want to change a law, there are avenues to pursue to have that process started—and that doesn’t include stealing top secret documents. Wizner should know this and he’s just blowing smoke out of his ass at this point.

146 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2014 4:04:18pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Coming up on the 150th anniversary of the lynch era.

So many people don’t realize that the U.S. was once subjected to a long and successful terrorist campaign. Carried out by the same sort of people who are now calling for the President’s death.

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 4:05:18pm

re: #140 Kid A

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148 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 4:06:03pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

I think it was someone here that said “You lost your country in 1865” to Ann Coulter.

149 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2014 4:10:46pm

re: #31 sagehen

Was this a crush from afar, a pal too afraid to say anything, or did you ask her out and get rejected?

Made me think of this story.

Here in Canada a couple of decades ago we had a Premier (the Canadian equivalent of Governor) of Manitoba by the name of Ed Schreyer.

He and his wife, Lily, stopped for gas one day, and realized the man running the station was someone Lily had dated in high school.

“Just think where you’d be now if you’d married him instead of me,” remarked Ed.

After a moment’s thought Lily replied, “I’d the the wife of the Premier of Manitoba.”

150 Lidane  Jul 4, 2014 4:13:09pm
151 Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2014 4:13:09pm

I was just recalling a fond memory.

In January of 2009, I had my first class with a bunch of intermediate ESL learners, a rather rambunctious bunch as I’d been informed.

So it’s winter, and I’m dressed in black; black trousers, black turtleneck, black flat cap, with silverish accents; my earring, wristwatch, etc. As it’s the dead of the winter, I was also wearing a long black wool greatcoat.

So, I walk in, and just as I do, my phone goes off.

This was my ringtone:

Youtube Video

One of the students close to me looks at the others and says, “Jsme mrtví”, or “We’re dead.” I promptly answered back, “To je pravda …. Chápu, co mluvíš” or, “That’s right…..I understand what you’re talking about.”

What a great way to introduce oneself. :D

152 De Kolta Chair  Jul 4, 2014 4:21:15pm

Back in the day, whenever the British army retreated from battle, their pipers played a mournful tune called “The World Turned Upside Down.”

I suggest that the righties adopt that as their theme song.

Theme song for lib/progs? The Pogues’ Sunny Side of the Street, of course.

153 jaunte  Jul 4, 2014 4:21:22pm
154 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 4:25:35pm

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I was just recalling a fond memory.

In January of 2009, I had my first class with a bunch of intermediate ESL learners, a rather rambunctious bunch as I’d been informed.

So it’s winter, and I’m dressed in black; black trousers, black turtleneck, black flat cap, with silverish accents; my earring, wristwatch, etc. As it’s the dead of the winter, I was also wearing a long black wool greatcoat.

So, I walk in, and just as I do, my phone goes off.

This was my ringtone:

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Video

One of the students close to me looks at the others and says, “Jsme mrtví”, or “We’re dead.” I promptly answered back, “To je pravda …. Chápu, co mluvíš” or, “That’s right…..I understand what you’re talking about.”

What a great way to introduce oneself. :D

Haha! That’s my grandson’s ringtone!

155 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2014 4:27:35pm

re: #144 EPR-radar

I still remember the start of this version of the Battle Hymn of the Republic:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school
We have tortured all the teachers and broken all the rules

I’ve always been fond of Mad Magazine’s version of The Marine Hymn.

From the neck high mud of foxholes,
to malaria filled bogs.
We will march for ninety miles a day,
then drop out and die like dogs.
We will land on mine strewn beaches.
We will live with snakes and fleas.
The we’ll all leave Parris Island for,
restful combat overseas.

156 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2014 4:28:25pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

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Plus ca change and all that.

157 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 4, 2014 4:28:42pm

re: #146 Romantic Heretic

So many people don’t realize that the U.S. was once subjected to a long and successful terrorist campaign. Carried out by the same sort of people who are now calling for the President’s death.

The South continued as an insurgency for a long time; there weren’t really many die-hard Nazis making trouble in Germany, but in the South, some of the same people who fought to preserve slavery then formed organizations like the KKK and continued a campaign of harassment and murder.

The attitude of the South about the Civil War is often baffling, but I think part of it comes from this accident of history. Before the Civil War, we had a sense of ourselves as a nation but a very strong regional and state sense of ourselves, too. The South had always been very different from the North. The national perspective changed after the Civil War: Many in the South, who had been anti-slavery and pro-Union, happily accepted this, as did the black population. But a significant percentage of the South did not, you’d expect from any ‘losing side’ in any war. They felt they had lost the war: they didn’t feel that proved they were in the wrong. And frankly, war does not determine who is right about an issue.

There is a long intellectual and social stream in the South that has held—often politely and firmly—the idea that the result of the Civil War was not a good one. Or that there simply should have been no war; a negation of the issue. Or that the events that rolled back all the progress of black involvement in politics weren’t horrible, but a good and proper correction of excess.

So the South has been at a disadvantage, this whole time. It’s easy to blame people for falling for the hucksters, but if you’re someone who grew up with loving parents in a community you like and you never really travel and your education doesn’t really challenge your views, and you deal with the media in the horrible state they are now, the way your politics get formed is extremely haphazard. You generally just follow what your parents believed in and what your community did because they were decent people and that’s as complex as you get.

The proper place for the blame is not on the average people but the assholes like Limbaugh and every GOP politician fostering anti-black attitudes, all the people who are using the issue and perpetuating it for their own selfish ends. Or because they foolishly think that the North pushed the South into the Civil War and slavery would have died out ‘naturally’ and that would be better. Or, sadly, for some, because they still feel that black people are inferior to white people.

This feels too much like Southern-bashing, so I wanted to reiterate: Many Southerners gladly accepted the end of slavery, even if they were worried about what would happen in the aftermath. Many Southerners had always proudly identified as American, and Southern volunteers for WWII proves the patriotism of the vast majority. They deserve better than having assholes like Limbaugh and Perry and Joe Wilson and Strom Thurmond and the litany of other outspoken racists.

158 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 4:36:13pm

re: #157 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The South continued as an insurgency for a long time; there weren’t really many die-hard Nazis making trouble in Germany, but in the South, some of the same people who fought to preserve slavery then formed organizations like the KKK and continued a campaign of harassment and murder.

The attitude of the South about the Civil War is often baffling, but I think part of it comes from this accident of history. Before the Civil War, we had a sense of ourselves as a nation but a very strong regional and state sense of ourselves, too. The South had always been very different from the North. The national perspective changed after the Civil War: Many in the South, who had been anti-slavery and pro-Union, happily accepted this, as did the black population. But a significant percentage of the South did not, you’d expect from any ‘losing side’ in any war. They felt they had lost the war: they didn’t feel that proved they were in the wrong. And frankly, war does not determine who is right about an issue.

There is a long intellectual and social stream in the South that has held—often politely and firmly—the idea that the result of the Civil War was not a good one. Or that there simply should have been no war; a negation of the issue. Or that the events that rolled back all the progress of black involvement in politics weren’t horrible, but a good and proper correction of excess.

So the South has been at a disadvantage, this whole time. It’s easy to blame people for falling for the hucksters, but if you’re someone who grew up with loving parents in a community you like and you never really travel and your education doesn’t really challenge your views, and you deal with the media in the horrible state they are now, the way your politics get formed is extremely haphazard. You generally just follow what your parents believed in and what your community did because they were decent people and that’s as complex as you get.

The proper place for the blame is not on the average people but the assholes like Limbaugh and every GOP politician fostering anti-black attitudes, all the people who are using the issue and perpetuating it for their own selfish ends. Or because they foolishly think that the North pushed the South into the Civil War and slavery would have died out ‘naturally’ and that would be better. Or, sadly, for some, because they still feel that black people are inferior to white people.

This feels too much like Southern-bashing, so I wanted to reiterate: Many Southerners gladly accepted the end of slavery, even if they were worried about what would happen in the aftermath. Many Southerners had always proudly identified as American, and Southern volunteers for WWII proves the patriotism of the vast majority. They deserve better than having assholes like Limbaugh and Perry and Joe Wilson and Strom Thurmond and the litany of other outspoken racists.

Thanks for that. Yes, we have progressives down here, liberals and others. Not everyone is a racist. I fought it as a kid and was lucky enough to get the cultures and thinking of other regions of the country under my belt, too. But those who have never even left the states they live in and don’t even travel far from the counties they’re born and raised in get a very skewed, parochial view of both themselves and their surroundings, and other parts of the country. When that happens, the politicians know those people well, and pander to them, even while they themselves are educated and sophisticated enough to know the difference. That is real cynical dishonesty and harmful to everyone.

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 4, 2014 4:37:29pm

re: #136 Lidane

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They just don’t seem to get that “white pride” can be held without requiring another group to be inferior.

160 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2014 4:39:09pm

re: #157 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

And frankly, war does not determine who is right about an issue.

I’ve often remarked about the Civil War, and the Iraq War, that the war was won but the peace was lost. It’s what happens after the fighting that is important.

I remember reading Harry Truman’s remarks along the same line about the Civil War, and being from a generation much closer to the Civil war as well as from the South, he was very aware of the failures of policy that bedevil the States to this day.

He made it clear that it was his memories of this failure that informed his policy towards Germany after WWII. He did not want them to feel like a defeated nation and worked hard to make it appear otherwise so that there wouldn’t be another World War within a generation. I believe that we can say with a great deal of certainty he was very successful.

I was thinking that Harry was the last time we had a ‘common man’ as President. But then I thought that Obama comes very close. People from humble beginnings make good Presidents.

161 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 4, 2014 4:44:07pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

It’s a very “martial” tune, isn’t it? Sousa’s entire body of work was marches, wasn’t it?

Not entirely. He wrote operettas too.

Youtube Video

162 Kid A  Jul 4, 2014 4:47:06pm
163 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 4:54:10pm

OFFS

164 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 4:55:23pm

Anyone seen KT lately?

165 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 4:55:52pm

Anyway if Obama DID visit a mosque today, Jumu’ah during Ramadan, how would that be a “bad” thing, except to a bigot?

166 calochortus  Jul 4, 2014 5:01:00pm

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

Anyway if Obama DID visit a mosque today, Jumu’ah during Ramadan, how would that be a “bad” thing, except to a bigot?

I believe the “except to a bigot” part explains all.

167 De Kolta Chair  Jul 4, 2014 5:07:35pm

Visiting the in-laws in the ‘burbs of Baltimore for the Fourth, and their neighbors have a big annual backyard party for the occasion. This year, in addition to a great dj, they have a comedienne, who just delivered a very funny opening line, “This sound system sounds like a clock radio.”

168 b_sharp  Jul 4, 2014 5:08:16pm

Anyone get a chance to read the Xkeyscore rules posted?
Looks like IPs get placed in a DB but doesn’t tell us what rules govern the DB.

daserste.ndr.de

169 De Kolta Chair  Jul 4, 2014 5:16:41pm

Another good line by the comedienne performing next door: “White people think Obama is just a temp worker.”

170 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 5:18:25pm

re: #168 b_sharp

Anyone get a chance to read the Xkeyscore rules posted?
Looks like IPs get placed in a DB but doesn’t tell us what rules govern the DB.

daserste.ndr.de

// START_DEFINITION
/*
These variables define terms and websites relating to the TAILs (The Amnesic
Incognito Live System) software program, a comsec mechanism advocated by
extremists on extremist forums.

// START_DEFINITION
/*
This fingerprint identifies users searching for the TAILs (The Amnesic
Incognito Live System) software program, viewing documents relating to TAILs,
or viewing websites that detail TAILs.
*/
fingerprint(‘ct_mo/TAILS’)=
fingerprint(‘documents/comsec/tails_doc’) or web_search($TAILS_terms) or
url($TAILS_websites) or html_title($TAILS_websites);
// END_DEFINITION

Those seem to be pretty well defined as to what they’re looking to find. Why would anyone who wasn’t looking for specific information go to those sites or make contact there?

171 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 4, 2014 5:19:49pm

NO. JUST. NO.

172 De Kolta Chair  Jul 4, 2014 5:20:18pm

Another good line by the comedienne performing next door: “I like crackers… in my soup.”

173 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 5:21:04pm

re: #171 Pie-onist Overlord

NO. JUST. NO.

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“TookPackinMama” is a tool herself.

174 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 5:38:45pm

re: #170 Justanotherhuman

comsec: Communications security is the discipline of preventing unauthorized interceptors from accessing telecommunications in an intelligible form, while still delivering content to the intended recipients. Wikipedia

So, this pertains to extremists who are using this method for “eyes only” encryption to intended recipients from senders. How many ordinary people use this method to send emails?

At least, that’s how I understand it.

175 Amory Blaine  Jul 4, 2014 5:42:53pm

re: #70 allegro

OMG I love cockatoos (Moluccan). Such gentle beautiful creatures. It must be a privilege to be a caretaker.

176 Justanotherhuman  Jul 4, 2014 6:59:54pm

...

177 Tigger2  Jul 4, 2014 7:12:54pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Boing Boing continues hyping their bogus clickbait story.

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This should be added to that every time it is tweeted.

If you read Breitbart the NSA considers you a target for deep surveillance

178 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2014 7:30:46pm

re: #171 Pie-onist Overlord

NO. JUST. NO.

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Never mind. A parody.

My bad.

179 RadicalModerate  Jul 5, 2014 12:40:33am

re: #140 Kid A

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Some historical significance of that poster - it was distributed by members of the John Birch Society, who along with the KKK had a very significant presence in Dallas in the late 50s/early 60s. In fact, the per-capita membership in the Klan at the time was the highest in the nation.

From a Slate article about the history of the flyer:

General Edwin A. Walker, a Texan who served in World War II and the Korean War, had resigned his Army post in 1961 after a Kennedy-ordered investigation found that he had violated the Hatch Act, which prohibits federal employees from engaging in political activity on the job, by distributing John Birch Society literature to his troops. Walker moved to Dallas and became a leader of right-wing activity in the city (more on the full range of that activity here). The ex-General led resistance to James Meredith’s 1962 enrollment at the University of Mississippi and unsuccessfully ran for the position of Texas governor.

As for the flyer itself, its heaviest distribution was on November 21, 1963, when copies of it were placed inside newspapers throughout the city.
Here’s a larger version if you want to read the text:
John Birch Society flier from Dallas TX, November 21, 1963

180 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Jul 5, 2014 4:54:34am

re: #83 Gus

This whole notion of “conservatives” or “liberals” during the revolution is ahistorical and should be ignored.

181 AntonSirius  Jul 5, 2014 8:44:40am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Boing Boing continues hyping their bogus clickbait story.

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I stopped paying attention to anything NSA-related that Cory posted a long, long time ago.


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