Peter Gabriel Live in London - Mercy Street (From “Back to Front”)

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Here’s an absolutely incredible live performance of Peter Gabriel’s “Mercy Street,” a song about the life and work of poet Anne Sexton, who committed suicide in 1974..

‘Mercy Street’ taken from the Back To Front film - available as single disc DVD or Blu-ray, as well as Deluxe Edition in a choice of DVD or Blu-ray.

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The Back to Front film captures Peter’s triumphant performance at London’s O2 recorded in October 2013 as part of his on-going Back to Front tour. The tour celebrates the album So, which is played live in it’s entirety, but also features many of Peter’s best loved songs (some in totally new acoustic arrangements) as well as previously unreleased and even unfinished material. Alongside Peter are long-time band mates Tony Levin and David Rhodes, as well as David Sancious and Manu Katche who made up the original So touring band of 1986 & 87.

The release is available as single disc DVD or Blu-ray, as well as Deluxe Edition in a choice of DVD or Blu-ray. The Deluxe Editions come with two CD audio version, the theatrical edit of the film, bonus material and a 60 page hardback photo book.

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133 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 12:25:27pm

This song gives me chills.

2 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:25:47pm

3 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:26:09pm

Some Turtles can MOVE!
Youtube Video

4 Kid A  Jul 5, 2014 12:28:06pm

For Gus downstairs:

5 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 5, 2014 12:28:22pm

re: #3 FemNaziBitch

Some Turtles can MOVE!
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Video

Tortoise.

6 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 12:30:14pm

Rwnj 4th of July sentiment.

heraldnet.com

7 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 12:31:09pm
8 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:32:18pm

re: #5 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP

Tortoise.

Frog vs. Toad
Alligator vs. Crocodile
Turtle vs. Tortoise
Godzilla vs … .

9 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 5, 2014 12:33:20pm

re: #8 FemNaziBitch

Frog vs. Toad
Alligator vs. Crocodile
Turtle vs. Tortoise
Godzilla vs … .

I’ve seen that video going around FB and it’s been driving me crazy with everyone calling it a turtle. LOL. I simply couldn’t take it anymore. ;-)

10 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:33:38pm

re: #9 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP

I’ve seen that video going around FB and it’s been driving me crazy with everyone calling it a turtle. LOL. I simply couldn’t take it anymore. ;-)

((((((Sionnan))))))

11 BongCrodny  Jul 5, 2014 12:33:47pm

re: #4 Kid A

For Gus downstairs:

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So, only a show trial, right? Guilty until proven guilty?

Another “Molon Labe” idiot, I see.

12 Kid A  Jul 5, 2014 12:34:42pm
13 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:35:25pm

Look at the Puppy Ears!!!
Youtube Video

14 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 12:35:45pm
15 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 5, 2014 12:37:59pm

What I don’t get is exactly what has Obama done to deserve treason charges? Dick Cheney did more. I just don’t get it.

16 Kid A  Jul 5, 2014 12:38:30pm

re: #14 Kragar

LOL

17 Kid A  Jul 5, 2014 12:40:34pm

re: #15 Rev_Arthur_Belling

It’s wingnutish. No one can translate it.

18 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 12:41:23pm

re: #15 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What I don’t get is exactly what has Obama done to deserve treason charges? Dick Cheney did more. I just don’t get it.

He got elected. Not once, but twice.

19 ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2014 12:41:36pm

That was nice. Always liked Gabriel’s voice when he is dealing with a lot of words…like a poem. And when he can do some dramatic acting with the words it really is his forte as an artist.

Ever since I saw him at The Agora in Columbus in early ‘74 he has been a favorite. To me, he was Genesis. My opinion. They were pretty damn good after, but they lost a lot of great enchantment when he left.

20 Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2014 12:42:04pm

re: #14 Kragar

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What an idiot that fool is. Hope he enjoys his little chat with the Secret Service, because I just reported the fucker.

21 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:42:41pm

re: #15 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What I don’t get is exactly what has Obama done to deserve treason charges? Dick Cheney did more. I just don’t get it.

He upset the world order by proving the USA could have a AA POTUS.

22 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:43:38pm

bbl

23 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 12:45:47pm

Ya’ll know that Larry was arrested yesterday in Murrieta.

24 Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2014 12:46:15pm

re: #15 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What I don’t get is exactly what has Obama done to deserve treason charges? Dick Cheney did more. I just don’t get it.

Presidenting while black.

25 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 12:46:17pm

“…Ironically, it was former President Bush which signed into law the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which requires that any unaccompanied minor who isn’t from Mexico caught at the border be taken into custody and transferred to the Office of Refugee Resettlement. They are then either sent to a suitable relative or put into long-term foster care. In other words, they stay in the United States and now that there are a lot of them - fleeing drug wars and hunger - Republicans don’t like that compassionate law any more.

Perry felt that in order to stop the thousands of children showing up at the nation’s doorstep, a military intervention was the only way and he wanted the federal government to pay for it. He told the hearing that he wants at least 1,000 Texas National Guard troops and other resources as the first step towards stemming the flow of kids.”

26 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 12:47:01pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

Ya’ll know that Larry was arrested yesterday in Murrieta.

Yes. That’s how I found him.

27 Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2014 12:47:15pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

Ya’ll know that Larry was arrested yesterday in Murrieta.

Quelle surprise.

28 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 12:47:52pm

re: #26 Gus

Yes. That’s how I found him.

I don’t think our fellows caught that.

29 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:49:23pm

So,

One way to solve the unemployment problem in this country is to disqualify women from the workplace. Change the numbers and all will be solved.

I think the Taliban tried that.

Not for unemployment problems, for Power and Control. Which in the West is code for Jobs/Economy.

30 FemNaziBitch  Jul 5, 2014 12:49:47pm

bbl again

31 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 12:49:59pm

Ergo, I think Larry is a little beyond strung out today.

32 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 12:50:15pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

I don’t think our fellows caught that.

He’ll be on Hannity next. Just watch.

33 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 12:51:16pm

“…One fragment, recently scrutinized by historian Dominic Rathbone of King’s College London, concerns a wrestling match between two teenagers, Nicantinous and Demetrius, in A.D. 267. The contract, agreed upon by Nicantinous’ father and Demetrius’ trainers, stipulates that Demetrius must “fall three times and yield.” For his intentional submission, the loser would be paid 3,800 drachmas.

34 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 12:51:21pm

re: #32 Gus

He’ll be no Hannity next. Just watch.

So Larry, how ‘bout that pay per view hanging of the President?

Oh, Hannity.

35 Teukka  Jul 5, 2014 12:51:46pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

Ergo, I think Larry is a little beyond strung out today.

You meant the Larry which exercised speech not so well protected by the first amendment towards the end of the previous thread?

36 Kid A  Jul 5, 2014 12:52:12pm
37 bratwurst  Jul 5, 2014 12:53:13pm

re: #4 Kid A

For Gus downstairs:

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Is anyone brave enough to explain the difference between “hanged” and “hung” to this intellectual giant?

38 Teukka  Jul 5, 2014 12:54:10pm

re: #37 bratwurst

Is anyone brave enough to explain the difference between “hanged” and “hung” to this intellectual giant?

*exercises strained restraint*
Must … not … post … cat … ass … trophy … picture …

39 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 12:54:49pm

This Larry Spencer is a sick fuck, no doubt about that. But the Secret Service isn’t going to investigate him unless he makes direct threats of violence that he intends to commit himself, and I don’t think he’s done that.

40 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 12:55:45pm
41 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 12:55:55pm

People who talk like this are often very aware of the legal limits, and are cunning enough to be careful about not going over them.

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2014 12:56:44pm

MrBWS just got home from restoring power in northern Indiana and had a fun story:
Yesterday, the crews broke for supper and headed to a restaurant in downtown Goshen, Indiana. Traffic was intense and the sidewalks were loaded with people.
As they are creeping along (two bucket trucks and two digger trucks), they are seeing both sides of the streets lined with classic and antique vehicles.
They managed to find themselves in the middle of a Car Cruise!
As they are creeping along, a guy in the crowd yells at MrBWS, “Hey power guy! Yeah, you!!”
Hubs looks over, thinking, oh, hell, somebody’s pissed about their power being out…
The sidewalk guy yells, “great job you guys have been doing, thank you!” and starts to applaud.
The entire crowd (and we’re talking hundreds of people) take notice and start applauding and cheering.

Best. Thing. Ever.

43 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 12:57:57pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

People who talk like this are often very aware of the legal limits, and are cunning enough to be careful about not going over them.

They’ll dance around a subject, then when you call them out on it, you’ll get “Where did I say that? You Liberals are projecting again!”

44 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 12:58:42pm
45 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 1:00:20pm

re: #40 Kragar

You’ve awakened a nihilist:

46 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 5, 2014 1:00:44pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

People who talk like this are often very aware of the legal limits, and are cunning enough to be careful about not going over them.

Larry spencer

47 RadicalModerate  Jul 5, 2014 1:01:12pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

So Larry, how ‘bout that pay per view hanging of the President?

Oh, Hannity.

Shouldn’t be of any surprise that I counted a dozen bonafide white nationalists in the group of who he is following before I stopped counting. And I’m not talking about the guys who stick confederate flags in their profiles or even rightwing media darlings like Ann Coulter and Robert Spencer either. I mean the full-blown Aryan Nation types.

48 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:01:19pm

re: #45 jaunte

You’ve awakened a nihilist:

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Its from a TV show account which features implanted memories or something

49 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:03:04pm
50 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 1:03:46pm
51 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:04:22pm

That would be in accordance with my firmly held religious beliefs, so you can’t make me pay it either.

52 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:05:07pm
53 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 1:07:11pm

re: #36 Kid A

HA

54 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 1:10:32pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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The actual barreling down the hill must have been crazy.

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2014 1:13:31pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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I had a twitter link to that downstairs this morning and then Stanley Sea found this one:

56 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 1:14:48pm

Looking up the value of the Greek drachma in AD 267, that match-fixing cost the father about $10,000-$11,000.

57 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 1:16:40pm
58 goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2014 1:16:56pm

Larry Spencer’s Bogus Journey.

Conservative activist Larry Spencer of 1589 Southside Road, Cocalalla, was subject of a citizen arrest about 8 p.m. Wednesday when he tried to reclaim personal belongings from his repossessed vehicle.

“First off, Larry Spencer is a joke. We looked for him for 4 months, he decided since he is well known that he didn’t have to pay his payments like the rest of us. So he hid his vehicle. We made 3 appointments with him to come and retrieve his personal belongings and pay a $45 gate fee to pay a agent to keep a secure yard.(which if he would have just given up the vehicle in the first place he could have had his stuff out free of charge at time of repossession.) I bet people don’t know that he has to go to his mother-in-laws to beg for gas money so he can get around in his Mercedes like a high-rolling community watchdogg!!! I mean come on now! If this was your property (like your house) would you want some wack job trespassing onto your property just because he didn’t follow the rules? Anyone in there right mind would have had him charges as well. Just because your a slim ball doesn’t mean you get special treatment.

Thanks Bent about getting a dog to watch the yard, maybe if we had one Larry would be crying for his mother-in-law!

After he got released from jail he had to walk 6 miles back to his truck from jail since he has no friends to help him out on a ride nor did he have the money for a cab.”

59 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 1:17:41pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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Video from scene H/T KPAX news.

kpax.com

Those fuselages are headed for the recycle bin.

60 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:19:07pm
61 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 1:22:34pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

Larry Spencer’s Bogus Journey.

Conservative activist Larry Spencer of 1589 Southside Road, Cocalalla, was subject of a citizen arrest about 8 p.m. Wednesday when he tried to reclaim personal belongings from his repossessed vehicle.

“First off, Larry Spencer is a joke. We looked for him for 4 months, he decided since he is well known that he didn’t have to pay his payments like the rest of us. So he hid his vehicle. We made 3 appointments with him to come and retrieve his personal belongings and pay a $45 gate fee to pay a agent to keep a secure yard.(which if he would have just given up the vehicle in the first place he could have had his stuff out free of charge at time of repossession.) I bet people don’t know that he has to go to his mother-in-laws to beg for gas money so he can get around in his Mercedes like a high-rolling community watchdogg!!! I mean come on now! If this was your property (like your house) would you want some wack job trespassing onto your property just because he didn’t follow the rules? Anyone in there right mind would have had him charges as well. Just because your a slim ball doesn’t mean you get special treatment.

Thanks Bent about getting a dog to watch the yard, maybe if we had one Larry would be crying for his mother-in-law!

After he got released from jail he had to walk 6 miles back to his truck from jail since he has no friends to help him out on a ride nor did he have the money for a cab.”

Might be a different Spencer. If he was 36 then that would make him 41 now. Looks older to me.

62 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 1:23:13pm

Ha! He just retweeted Glenn Greenwald.

63 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 1:26:37pm
64 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:29:12pm

The tweet in which Tom Nichols finally jumps the shark

Bye Tom

65 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:31:02pm

I’d been on the brink of unfollowing him for a while

This clinched it

66 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 1:42:59pm

re: #64 Kragar

I am disappoint. I really don’t understand how anyone can defend what’s going on in Murrieta. It’s raw racism at its ugliest.

67 Tigger2  Jul 5, 2014 1:45:44pm

Tomre: #64 Kragar

The tweet in which Tom Nichols finally jumps the shark

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Bye Tom

Tom, Nice jump into becoming a knuckledragger .

68 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:46:35pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

I am disappoint. I really don’t understand how anyone can defend what’s going on in Murrieta. It’s raw racism at its ugliest.

I’ve had people say straight out that the buses should just drive to the border and dump the people there.

This is some ugly, ugly stuff and anyone supporting it should feel deeply ashamed.

69 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:48:37pm
70 Kid A  Jul 5, 2014 1:49:22pm

Top Golf rocks.

71 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 1:49:59pm

re: #68 Kragar

I’ve had people say straight out that the buses should just drive to the border and dump the people there.

This is some ugly, ugly stuff and anyone supporting it should feel deeply ashamed.

Yep, yesterday was fun.

72 gwangung  Jul 5, 2014 1:50:01pm

re: #64 Kragar

The tweet in which Tom Nichols finally jumps the shark

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Bye Tom

Hmph. I think it would be the exact opposite. With more open borders, traffickers find it harder to exploit.

73 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 1:50:01pm
74 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 5, 2014 1:50:41pm

re: #68 Kragar

I’ve had people say straight out that the buses should just drive to the border and dump the people there.

This is some ugly, ugly stuff and anyone supporting it should feel deeply ashamed.

What Nichols said is also terrible logic: The best way to defeat human trafficking is for undocumented aliens to not fear speaking with the police, so that their immigration status can’t be used to hold them against their will.

75 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 1:52:22pm

I’m still digging the ancient thrown wrestling match.

76 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 1:54:52pm

re: #74 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

What Nichols said is also terrible logic: The best way to defeat human trafficking is for undocumented aliens to not fear speaking with the police, so that their immigration status can’t be used to hold them against their will.

The right wing answer to everything is to get tough, close things down, throw somebody out, use force, lose all compassion. Basically, turn into a brute.

The idea is that if you’re brutal and insensitive enough, people will be forced to change their ways.

It’s a deeply sick and inhumane world view.

77 Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2014 1:55:49pm

re: #59 Bubblehead II

Video from scene H/T KPAX news.

kpax.com

Those fuselages are headed for the recycle bin.

A little Bondo and some air freshener, and they’re good to go.

78 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 1:58:33pm

And then…

79 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:00:46pm
80 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 5, 2014 2:01:26pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

The right wing answer to everything is to get tough, close things down, throw somebody out, use force, lose all compassion. Basically, turn into a brute.

The idea is that if you’re brutal and insensitive enough, people will be forced to change their ways.

It’s a deeply sick and inhumane world view.

I had a depressing (but civil) argument with a classmate at Hunter, who is transferring to John Jay because the attitude there is a lot more right-wing on the subject of criminology. Her repeated insistence was “People shouldn’t be rewarded for doing something wrong”. She objected to prisoners having job training, books—anything, basically, and had really no answer to the problem of recidivism. She isn’t an unpleasant person or a bad person, but she purposefully stops herself from thinking things through to the conclusion, instead returning to the moral “People shouldn’t be rewarded for doing bad things.”

It’s a moral point of view, it’s not related to practicality or running a society, it’s about enacting moral punishment, and it strongly resembles a religious point of view.

81 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 2:03:50pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

A little Bondo and some air freshener, and they’re good to go.

Something tells me that the NTSB, FAA and Boeing just might have a slight problem with that fix. :-)

82 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:04:19pm

re: #80 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I had a depressing (but civil) argument with a classmate at Hunter, who is transferring to John Jay because the attitude there is a lot more right-wing on the subject of criminology. Her repeated insistence was “People shouldn’t be rewarded for doing something wrong”. She objected to prisoners having job training, books—anything, basically, and had really no answer to the problem of recidivism. She isn’t an unpleasant person or a bad person, but she purposefully stops herself from thinking things through to the conclusion, instead returning to the moral “People shouldn’t be rewarded for doing bad things.”

It’s a moral point of view, it’s not related to practicality or running a society, it’s about enacting moral punishment, and it strongly resembles a religious point of view.

I always go to empathy. Or the strikingly lack thereof.

Some have it, some don’t.

83 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:04:42pm

re: #81 Bubblehead II

Something tells me that the NTSB, FAA and Boeing just might have a slight problem with that fix. :-)

Damn socialist regulations hounding businesses needlessly.
/

84 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 5, 2014 2:06:56pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

A little Bondo and some air freshener, and they’re good to go.

Somewhere there is an Insurance underwriter who is praying you’re right rather than BHII… ;)

85 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 5, 2014 2:08:15pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

I always go to empathy. Or the strikingly lack thereof.

Some have it, some don’t.

But that’s the thing. This woman I’m describing does have empathy. She’s a kind, empathetic person who volunteers at a homeless shelter. But the idea of punishment for transgression is a very strong cultural one, and she’s been raised with that as an idea. Maybe college will change her—even at John Jay the professors are going to keep exposing her to the actual truth, the consequences of various lines of logic—and maybe not, but it’s important to remember if you grow up surrounded by those ideals, you’re more than likely going to wind up holding those ideals too, even if it requires a certain amount of double-think on your own part.

If someone is raised to believe that moral judgements are superior to practical judgements, it’s hard to argue them out of that worldview. It’s a mystic worldview.

86 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:08:29pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

And then…

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Did she drop her brain on the sidewalk?

87 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 2:08:38pm

re: #83 Kragar

Damn socialist regulations hounding businesses needlessly.
/

Well Boeing’s Insurance company(s) might have a slight problem with it as well.

88 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 2:09:35pm

re: #84 William Barnett-Lewis

Somewhere there is an Insurance underwriter who is praying you’re right rather than BHII… ;)

Yeah, the railroads. Not Boeings.

89 Mattand  Jul 5, 2014 2:09:53pm

re: #80 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I had a depressing (but civil) argument with a classmate at Hunter, who is transferring to John Jay because the attitude there is a lot more right-wing on the subject of criminology. Her repeated insistence was “People shouldn’t be rewarded for doing something wrong”. She objected to prisoners having job training, books—anything, basically, and had really no answer to the problem of recidivism. She isn’t an unpleasant person or a bad person, but she purposefully stops herself from thinking things through to the conclusion, instead returning to the moral “People shouldn’t be rewarded for doing bad things.”

It’s a moral point of view, it’s not related to practicality or running a society, it’s about enacting moral punishment, and it strongly resembles a religious point of view.

re: #82 Stanley Sea

I always go to empathy. Or the strikingly lack thereof.

Some have it, some don’t.

Welcome to my world. Any attempt to paint a subject like prisoner rehab with a subtle brush usually ends with “You don’t get it, you don’t have kids” or some other inane straw man.

90 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:11:09pm

re: #85 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Hope she never fucks up.

Sorry, what you wrote made perfect sense. Just sad.

91 Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2014 2:11:53pm

re: #84 William Barnett-Lewis

Somewhere there is an Insurance underwriter who is praying you’re right rather than BHII… ;)

If you’ve decided you’re done flying, do some research on recycling of airliner parts involved in crashes.

“Hey! The engineers said it was OK.”

92 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:12:05pm

So suddenly “we’ll be there at one” became “See you around three”

My wife’s friend has no sense of time

93 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 2:14:09pm

bbib. Beer run.

94 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2014 2:16:23pm

re: #92 Kragar

So suddenly “we’ll be there at one” became “See you around three”

My wife’s friend has no sense of time

I’ve had friends like that.
My solution (when possible) is “nowhere to be found” or “sorry the food is gone, but there’s still a bit of marinated tripe; help yourself” at three…

95 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 2:16:58pm
96 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:18:09pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve had friends like that.
My solution (when possible) is “nowhere to be found” or “sorry the food is gone, but there’s still a bit of marinated tripe; help yourself” at three…

We decided to do a joint birthday party with their kids and ours, since one of their kids was born the same week as our youngest.

Last time I’ll let my wife make this mistake.

97 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:19:24pm

re: #96 Kragar

We decided to do a joint birthday party with their kids and ours, since one of their kids was born the same week as our youngest.

Last time I’ll let my wife make this mistake.

Your kid has to wait? Huge bummer.

98 jonhendry  Jul 5, 2014 2:20:55pm

FYI: The other day I mentioned the new Charlie Stross “Laundry Files” novel, The Rhesus Chart.

He’s made the first chapter available for free on his blog. It’s a pretty good introduction to the whole setting.

“Don’t be silly, Bob,” said Mo, “everybody knows vampires don’t exist.”

I froze with my chop sticks halfway to my mouth, the tiny corpse of a tempura-battered baby squid clutched precariously between them, while I flailed for a reply to her non sequitur. We were dining out at an uncomfortably pricy conveyor-belt sushi restaurant just off Leicester Square—it was my treat, although I had an ulterior motive. Unfortunately I was in the dog house for some reason. I didn’t know why, and it might not even have been related to the deed I’d brought her here to apologize for, but dinner showed every sign of turning into one of those rare but depressingly unfocussed marital arguments we had every few months. And the most prominent warning sign was this: the replacement of reasoned discussion with peremptory denial.

“We can’t be sure of that. I mean, doesn’t that take us right into proving-a-negative territory? The ubiquity of the legends, the consistent elements, all suggest to me that maybe we’ve been looking in the wrong place—”

99 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:21:47pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Your kid has to wait? Huge bummer.

They’re also my wife’s best friend and really good about watching the kids when we need a sitter, but still?

2 fucking hours late and you don’t even call till an hour later? WTF is that shit?

100 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:22:12pm

Somebody get this gal some words. I know I have a few to spare.

Also demonstrating was 20-year-old Filly Younghorse of Murrieta, carrying a sign that said “Our land is your land” and “Bienvenidos.”

“When I saw all the hatred on Tuesday, I had to come out,” said Younghorse, a Pima Indian. “They were telling me to go back to my country. I had no words.”

I think the link is from Stanley.

101 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 2:22:16pm
102 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:23:40pm

Sorry, need to vent some here because its not worth the long term aggravation of me going off on them when they get here.

103 Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2014 2:23:57pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Did she drop her brain on the sidewalk?

You don’t even want to look at the rest of her timeline today.

The wingnut brain virus is taking over these people.

104 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:24:04pm

re: #99 Kragar

They’re also my wife’s best friend and really good about watching the kids when we need a sitter, but still?

2 fucking hours late and you don’t even call till an hour later? WTF is that shit?

Well, it’s hot.

(not good enough)

105 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:26:17pm

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Well, it’s hot.

(not good enough)

I asked them repeatedly “Do you need us to help get stuff ready? What can we do to help?”

“Oh, we’ve got it all taken care of”

Today “Oh, we’re still waiting to get this taken care of.”

106 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 5, 2014 2:26:33pm

re: #60 Kragar

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Fun fact: The word “candidate” comes from a Latin word meaning “whitened”. The reference is not to the candidates themselves but to the whitened togas they campaigned in.

107 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:27:06pm

Its not like we had other plans later this evening.

Oh wait, we totally did.

108 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:28:03pm

re: #106 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Fun fact: The word “candidate” comes from a Latin word meaning “whitened”. The reference is not to the candidates themselves but to the whitened togas they campaigned in.

No offense, but that’s gotta be one of the least fun facts ever.

/not sure if

109 Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2014 2:28:29pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

You don’t even want to look at the rest of her timeline today.

The wingnut brain virus is taking over these people.

Interestingly, that reminds me of a quote from William Shirer in Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

He noted that the Nazi ideology seemed to be spreading like a virus, particularly, the Nazi’s virulent anti-Semitism. Shirer stated that this anti-Semitism was already present, but the Nazis were acting like oxygen to a fire.

I think what we’re seeing is long-suppressed xenophobia and bigotry among a fairly broad segment of the white American population that now feels exceedingly comfortable in expressing their sentiments openly - and vocally.

If history is a precedent, it may not be much longer until those sentiments are expressed through physical violence against the targets of their hatred.

110 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:28:36pm

re: #107 Kragar

Its not like we had other plans later this evening.

Oh wait, we totally did.

Get it all out.

111 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:28:47pm

And if I say anything to her friends about being late, it will piss off the wife and we’ll fight about it for days.

So I rant here about it.

112 jonhendry  Jul 5, 2014 2:29:10pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had a twitter link to that downstairs this morning and then Stanley Sea found this one:

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They’re clearly returning upstream to spawn.

113 ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2014 2:31:26pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

You don’t even want to look at the rest of her timeline today.

The wingnut brain virus is taking over these people.

See below…too much a hurry and entered the image wrong. Sorry. Dammit.

114 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:31:45pm

re: #112 jonhendry

They’re clearly returning upstream to spawn.

That sounds familiar….

115 Kragar  Jul 5, 2014 2:32:20pm

And they’re finally here.

Later

116 ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2014 2:32:36pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

Wingnut brain virus???

Why, I just happened to be working on a graphic about that very real disease. I was going to do a page on it with some fun text, but never finished it. Might as well whip it out right here, right now…

The Deadly Palin Brain Virus

117 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:33:30pm

re: #115 Kragar

And they’re finally here.

Later

A half-hour early!

/

118 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:33:40pm

re: #111 Kragar

And if I say anything to her friends about being late, it will piss off the wife and we’ll fight about it for days.

So I rant here about it.

Good Husband.

119 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:34:25pm

re: #115 Kragar

And they’re finally here.

Later

HEY, IT’S 230. THEY’RE EARLY.

120 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:37:43pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

HEY, IT’S 230. THEY’RE EARLY.

Ya gotta look at the bright side, right?

121 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 2:38:44pm

NPR/Carl Kassell peeps - you have to listen to this Best of Carl that played today.

Hang in there till 115 or so to hear him “gooooooooooal” from 2010.

Great great segment.

npr.org

122 Gus  Jul 5, 2014 2:38:58pm

BEES
O
R
D
E
R

123 jaunte  Jul 5, 2014 2:39:27pm

He might horrify them to death with that chair.

124 wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2014 2:41:52pm
125 Teukka  Jul 5, 2014 2:42:16pm

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

Interestingly, that reminds me of a quote from William Shirer in Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

He noted that the Nazi ideology seemed to be spreading like a virus, particularly, the Nazi’s virulent anti-Semitism. Shirer stated that this anti-Semitism was already present, but the Nazis were acting like oxygen to a fire.

I think what we’re seeing is long-suppressed xenophobia and bigotry among a fairly broad segment of the white American population that now feels exceedingly comfortable in expressing their sentiments openly - and vocally.

If history is a precedent, it may not be much longer until those sentiments are expressed through physical violence against the targets of their hatred.

Or that they begin making or attempting power grabs :(

126 Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2014 2:44:30pm

re: #125 Teukka

Or that they begin making or attempting power grabs :(

They could, but I think that might well end up in a modern-day repeat of the Beer Hall Putsch.

127 darthstar  Jul 5, 2014 2:47:12pm
128 Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2014 2:47:25pm

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

They could, but I think that might well end up in a modern-day repeat of the Beer Hall Putsch.

Depends on the willing complicity of local law enforcement and administators. (There was a strong element of that in the early Murrieta disgrace.) With enough legal cover, we could see a new wave of Klannishness.

129 Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2014 2:48:24pm

Back and aw fuck!

Hell Roaring Fire ousts campers, hikers from Sawtooth National Forest

The Hell Roaring Fire started not long before noon on the Fourth of July, about 12 miles south of the mountain town. It has grown to 130 acres, burning mostly in areas filled with downed or dead lodgepole pines.

And the reason this fire is going to probably get worse is because Environmental groups have blocked every attempt by the Forest Service to allow salvage logging in the area.

Forest fires good. Logging bad.

//// dripping

130 Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2014 3:01:42pm

re: #128 Decatur Deb

Depends on the willing complicity of local law enforcement and administators. (There was a strong element of that in the early Murrieta disgrace.) With enough legal cover, we could see a new wave of Klannishness.

Yep. City Manager had to walk back Mayor shit. Biggest cheer at town meeting was Anti Obama.

Cray begets more cray.

131 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 5, 2014 3:14:31pm

re: #112 jonhendry

They’re clearly returning upstream to spawn.

And soon the river will be teeming with little Piper Cubs.

132 abolitionist  Jul 5, 2014 3:24:35pm

re: #106 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Fun fact: The word “candidate” comes from a Latin word meaning “whitened”. The reference is not to the candidates themselves but to the whitened togas they campaigned in.

That leaves me puzzled about how candid came to mean truthful, without pretense.

Scratch that, and nevermind. I must’ve had a blond moment.

133 Randall Gross  Jul 5, 2014 7:48:15pm
Where did you go?
45 Mercy Street,
with great-grandmother
kneeling in her whale-bone corset
and praying gently but fiercely
to the wash basin,
at five A.M.
at noon
dozing in her wiggy rocker,
grandfather taking a nap in the pantry,
grandmother pushing the bell for the downstairs maid,
and Nana rocking Mother with an oversized flower
on her forehead to cover the curl
of when she was good and when she was…
And where she was begat
and in a generation
the third she will beget,
me,
with the stranger’s seed blooming
into the flower called Horrid.

I walk in a yellow dress
and a white pocketbook stuffed with cigarettes,
enough pills, my wallet, my keys,
and being twenty-eight, or is it forty-five?
I walk. I walk.
I hold matches at street signs
for it is dark,
as dark as the leathery dead
and I have lost my green Ford,
my house in the suburbs,
two little kids
sucked up like pollen by the bee in me
and a husband
who has wiped off his eyes
in order not to see my inside out
and I am walking and looking
and this is no dream
just my oily life
where the people are alibis
and the street is unfindable for an
entire lifetime.

— Anne Sexton
poemhunter.com


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