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1 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 8:47:09pm
2 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 8:47:19pm

Secret Service guys don’t seem very amused.

3 teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2014 8:49:31pm

Hey, I’m born bred raised live in Colorado, so…

4 andres  Jul 8, 2014 8:49:57pm

I’m pretty sure that isn’t the weirdest thing Obama faced today.

Not by a long shot.

5 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 8:50:26pm

Probably wouldn’t be a very good idea for anyone else to show up at an Obama event in a horse mask.

6 Lidane  Jul 8, 2014 8:50:56pm
7 teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2014 8:54:40pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Secret Service guys don’t seem very amused.

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Probably wouldn’t be a very good idea for anyone else to show up at an Obama event in a horse mask.

Obama is in pretty friendly territory tonight. I’m thinking he felt safe enough to go up to some white dude on the side of the street in Denver in a horse mask and engage (which is why Secret Service are like “Fuck, 200% DEFCON7 Alert” in the picture). In the end the internet got a funny picture and life goes on.

8 Lidane  Jul 8, 2014 8:56:54pm
9 klys  Jul 8, 2014 8:58:06pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Secret Service guys don’t seem very amused.

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a picture where they really look amused.

10 austin_blue  Jul 8, 2014 8:58:09pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Obama is in pretty friendly territory tonight. I’m thinking he felt safe enough to go up to some white dude in a horse mask and engage (which is why Secret Service are like “Fuck, 200% DEFCON7 Alert” in the picture). In the end the internet got a funny picture and life goes on.

Horse’s mask? That was an alien handler hooking up with his pawn!

(He’s really a lizard!)

11 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 8:59:22pm

Oh yeah, right - we’re supposed to be watching The Intercept.

/yawn

12 klys  Jul 8, 2014 8:59:29pm

To go with the enchilada casserole that is dinner tonight (currently cooling in the fridge before it goes into the oven, because the husband has not left the office yet and I am a kind and benevolent wife), I’m trying a new cucumber salad.

Diced cucumber, red onion, salt, lime juice, tequila, and a little bit of garlic powder and cumin. Tossed in just a tiny bit of feta. My first tastes were that it’s pretty good, I’m looking forward to trying it with the meal.

13 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 8:59:50pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Oh yeah, right - we’re supposed to be watching The Intercept.

/yawn

We are? Did I miss a memo?

14 Kid A  Jul 8, 2014 9:00:16pm

OBAMA SHAKES HANDS WITH A SUPPORTER OF GLUE FACTORIES!!!

15 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:01:15pm

Horse Guy gets signed for reality tv pilot by the end of the week.

16 Blue Fielder  Jul 8, 2014 9:01:22pm

I always knew this My Little Pony thing was going to go too far…

…

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17 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 9:01:54pm
18 austin_blue  Jul 8, 2014 9:02:59pm

re: #12 klys

To go with the enchilada casserole that is dinner tonight (currently cooling in the fridge before it goes into the oven, because the husband has not left the office yet and I am a kind and benevolent wife), I’m trying a new cucumber salad.

Diced cucumber, red onion, salt, lime juice, tequila, and a little bit of garlic powder and cumin. Tossed in just a tiny bit of feta. My first tastes were that it’s pretty good, I’m looking forward to trying it with the meal.

Oh, yum. That sounds outstanding. Don’t skimp on the feta. That and unflavored yogurt are outstanding with cucumbers and red onions, (also, try a little curry).

19 klys  Jul 8, 2014 9:04:24pm

re: #18 austin_blue

Oh, yum. That sounds outstanding. Don’t skimp on the feta. That and unflavored yogurt are outstanding with cucumbers and red onions, (also, try a little curry).

I will probably add more to mine, but not sure how much the husband wants so I figured that could be an individual thing. :)

I will have to consider maybe just a bit of yogurt next time (for some creaminess).

20 Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2014 9:04:26pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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SS is slacking. When I heard Texas today I definitely gulped.

21 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:04:44pm

“Do you want a hit, man?”
instagram.com

22 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:05:51pm
23 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:06:01pm
24 Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2014 9:06:14pm

And the chick putting her business card in his front pocket? Woah.

Maybe that group was pre-screened. Ah prob not.

Half empty tonight.

25 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 9:06:17pm

I think the Intercept released their latest bombshell, but I can’t be arsed.

26 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:06:25pm

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

27 teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2014 9:07:23pm

re: #21 jaunte

“Do you want a hit, man?”
instagram.com

OH SNAP!!! Memories of the Choom Gang zap through his mind!

28 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:08:07pm

Things are going good for me right now, except I am not making enough money, and am spending to much on gas.

I am now aiming to rectify that, though the whole process or sifting through job openings, and the 10-page process of applying to things is daunting to me. Too much stimuli!!!!

But, I must try.

Also, my Dad is using his passport for the first time this month, going to Montreal. I may be needing one, but the nation I would be going to is farther out than that.

I also might be missing the part of my brain that accurately calculates risk. :P

29 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:08:31pm

The spreadsheet shows 7,485 email addresses listed as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Many of the email addresses on the list appear to belong to foreigners whom the government believes are linked to Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Among the Americans on the list are individuals long accused of terrorist activity, including Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, who were killed in a 2011 drone strike in Yemen.

And?

30 austin_blue  Jul 8, 2014 9:08:47pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Meh, I wouldn’t be that concerned. The dude is wearing tight clothing. Nothing concealed. He doesn’t have any obvious side arms. He doesn’t have a rifle strapped to his back. The only place he could hide a bomb would be in the donkey head.

At some point you’ve got to let the POTUS get out among the electorate, Charles.

31 Kid A  Jul 8, 2014 9:09:06pm

re: #23 jaunte

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True that.

32 klys  Jul 8, 2014 9:09:22pm

re: #29 Gus

The spreadsheet shows 7,485 email addresses listed as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Many of the email addresses on the list appear to belong to foreigners whom the government believes are linked to Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Among the Americans on the list are individuals long accused of terrorist activity, including Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, who were killed in a 2011 drone strike in Yemen.

And?

Shit, you mean this stuff works?

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33 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:09:35pm

Given that the government’s justifications for subjecting Gill and the other U.S. citizens to surveillance remain classified, it is impossible to know why their emails were monitored, or the extent of the surveillance

34 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:10:23pm

“Excuse me sir, we’re going to have to check the contents of your muzzle.”

35 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:11:15pm

It grew!

36 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:11:29pm

Last paragraph.

In 2003, the Al Haramain Islamic Foundation, a Saudi charity, hired Ghafoor after its U.S. assets were frozen by the Treasury Department over claims that it funded terrorist operations. The government alleged that there were “direct links” between the U.S. branch of the charity and Osama bin Laden. Al Haramain had previously been represented by some of the biggest and most prestigious American law firms, including the D.C. powerhouse Akin Gump. Ghafoor’s work with Al Haramain led him to other controversial clients, including Mohammed Jamal Khalifa, a brother-in-law of Osama bin Laden who was the subject of FBI and CIA surveillance for years, as well as the government of Sudan.

37 EiMitch  Jul 8, 2014 9:11:45pm

re: #16 Blue Fielder

I always knew this My Little Pony thing was going to go too far…

…

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Hey, Politics is Magic. Just ask our House Science Committee.

38 teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2014 9:12:49pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Meh, I wouldn’t be that concerned. The dude is wearing tight clothing. Nothing concealed. He doesn’t have any obvious side arms. He doesn’t have a rifle strapped to his back. The only place he could hide a bomb would be in the donkey head.

At some point you’ve got to let the POTUS get out among the electorate, Charles.

You said it better than me. Obama is in Denver tonight, a city that went 73.4% for Obama in 2012. He can shake the hand of a horse head if he feels safe, which tonight he did.

39 Lidane  Jul 8, 2014 9:14:26pm

re: #26 Gus

Haven’t we been doing that since 2001? Or hell, since the first WTC bombing in 1993? WTF.

40 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:14:29pm
41 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:16:51pm
42 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:17:01pm

Walker also awarded $20,400 each to Wendell Belew and Asim Ghafoor, two of the foundation’s Washington-based lawyers. They had their phone conversations with Al-Haramain principals monitored, the judge said.

43 Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2014 9:17:19pm

re: #40 jaunte

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With fake smart man glasses. Gah that simpleton!

44 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:18:42pm

Generally, government investigators are required to obtain search warrants signed by judges to eavesdrop on domestic phone calls, e-mail traffic and other electronic communications. But Bush authorized the surveillance program shortly after 9/11, allowing the National Security Agency to bypass the courts and intercept electronic communications believed connected to al-Qaida.

Bush ended the program in January 2007.

45 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:18:52pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

Perry will get to the bottom of Obama’s plan to flood the state with Hispanic children who can’t vote.

46 Stanley Sea  Jul 8, 2014 9:19:52pm

Night all. Arg v Netherlands tomorrow!

47 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 9:20:17pm

re: #44 Gus

Generally, government investigators are required to obtain search warrants signed by judges to eavesdrop on domestic phone calls, e-mail traffic and other electronic communications. But Bush authorized the surveillance program shortly after 9/11, allowing the National Security Agency to bypass the courts and intercept electronic communications believed connected to al-Qaida.

Bush ended the program in January 2007.

That’s a lie, the program’s still going on! I know because they’ve been monitoring me!!!

48 jaunte  Jul 8, 2014 9:20:36pm
49 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:20:45pm

re: #26 Gus

Looking through the names on Wikipedia

Nihad Awad- Has made friendly statements on Hamas, and towards Qaddafi. Qaddafi was behind 2 terror attacks against the US (Berlin Discotheque Bombing, and Pan Am 103)

Agha Saeed- Not much, but he made a remark serious enough about Palestinians to cause Hillary Clinton to refund a $50,000 donation from his organization

Hooshang Amirahmadi- This one stumps me. An Iranian-American who wants reconciliation between Iran and the US. In addition, quite a liberal fellow.

Asim Ghafoor- Lawyer for the al-Haramain Foundation, an organization banned by the UN as a terrorist group.

Faisal Gill- Worked in the American Muslim Association under Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was convicted in 2003 of smuggling in $1 million from Libya to the US. Has links to Asim Ghafoor.

I only see a problem with Amirahmadi being looked at. Saeed is a bit questionable though.

50 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 9:22:36pm

re: #48 jaunte

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Obama’s just like Bush! No doubt he restarted the program without our knowledge! I mean, why would Glenn comment on a program that was ended 7 years ago otherwise?!

51 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 9:24:48pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Meh, I wouldn’t be that concerned. The dude is wearing tight clothing. Nothing concealed. He doesn’t have any obvious side arms. He doesn’t have a rifle strapped to his back. The only place he could hide a bomb would be in the donkey head.

At some point you’ve got to let the POTUS get out among the electorate, Charles.

Sorry, but if it were up to me those Secret Service guys would be in for serious discipline tonight.

This really is not cool, under any circumstances. Yes, it’s funny because nothing happened. But if that had been someone who intended harm to the President we wouldn’t be laughing right now.

52 sagehen  Jul 8, 2014 9:27:26pm

Keith Olbermann is on Letterman tonight — wow did he ever get fat.

On the upside, he’s not talking politics. Mostly sports, a little bit of his personal “old man talking about his medical issues” (am I supposed to care about his pain?).

53 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:28:56pm

Al-Haramain Islamic Found., Inc. v. Obama

Which is basically a holdover because Obama is president now. You can read an opinion there.

54 Killgore Trout  Jul 8, 2014 9:29:40pm

re: #26 Gus

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Of the names I didn’t recognize a quick google search shows why the Feds might be interested in them. It would be a bigger scandal if these guys weren’t investigated.

55 teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2014 9:30:30pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but if it were up to me those Secret Service guys would be in for serious discipline tonight.

This really is not cool, under any circumstances. Yes, it’s funny because nothing happened. But if that had been someone who intended harm to the President we wouldn’t be laughing right now.

I must commend Secret Service for the job well done in the last six years for protecting Barack Obama. I’d argue that this US President has seen more threats to his life since Lincoln.

Fuck. That’s totally hyperbole. Presidents get threatened with death constantly. Oh well, I’ll still submit this as a comment at LGF.

56 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:31:14pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I am not so sure about Amirahmadi

57 austin_blue  Jul 8, 2014 9:33:16pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but if it were up to me those Secret Service guys would be in for serious discipline tonight.

This really is not cool, under any circumstances. Yes, it’s funny because nothing happened. But if that had been someone who intended harm to the President we wouldn’t be laughing right now.

The Secret Service is all about threat level. Perimeter control is paramount. I guarantee that man had to remove his Democratic Donkey Head before he was admitted inside the control zone. There is a reason why it’s funny. Nothing was going to happen, or he wouldn’t have been there.

Seriously. These guys are the ultimate pros in close-quarters security. They have been ever since Reagan got popped at the Dupont Circle Hilton.

58 Killgore Trout  Jul 8, 2014 9:33:54pm

re: #49 The War TARDIS

Hooshang Amirahmadi- This one stumps me. An Iranian-American who wants reconciliation between Iran and the US. In addition, quite a liberal fellow.

He did try to run for president of Iran. He was a very long shot but that’s the kind of thing NSA is interested in. Who’s he talking to? How much support does he have? Does he have backers? etc.

59 Mich-again  Jul 8, 2014 9:34:10pm

I think that was John Kerry because it sure looks like the Secretariat of State.

60 teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2014 9:34:31pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Not only hyperbole, but extremely poorly constructed sentences that would anger any editor.

61 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 8, 2014 9:34:56pm

There is undoubtedly a conspiracy at work here. I don’t what it is, but I am sure the wingnut blogger/radio axis will let us know.

62 austin_blue  Jul 8, 2014 9:36:14pm

re: #59 Mich-again

I think that was John Kerry because it sure looks like the Secretariat of State.

Oh! Badda-bing! Best of the night!

You should see me right right now, with my long face for not coming up with that..

63 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 9:36:29pm
64 blueraven  Jul 8, 2014 9:36:34pm

re: #26 Gus

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

When he is releasing stuff that happened back 6 - 12 years ago, he must be running out of material.

While some of those names may be questionable for targeting, this shit began right after 9/11 when paranoia ran deep. The program was ended.

And also…this happened under Bush, not Obama.

65 J A P  Jul 8, 2014 9:37:16pm

re: #49 The War TARDIS

My own guess would be that he wasn’t a target himself but may have had contact with someone who was. Not that I know anything about security.

66 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:38:59pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

I do talk to someone in Iran regularly now.

He may well have been able to find support. Most people there do not like the Ayatollah. Not to mention, hard polling in the country shows that Iranians seem to view the American people positively.

She seemed fascinated that our Parliament, as I explained it, only works 100 days a year, but is paid $160,000+ a year.

67 J A P  Jul 8, 2014 9:41:02pm

re: #49 The War TARDIS

I might add that I once had a professor who mentioned that the government had listened to his phone conversations. He was officially informed of this. This made him feel funny, but at the time I thought to myself, “Geez, they actually follow their own rules.” According to the paranoid far left environment in which I lived at the time that came as a surprise to me. His communications outside the U.S. were being monitored because he had contacts with some people in the Cuban government.

68 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:43:35pm

re: #67 J A P

Oh, I have no doubt I am being monitored. I talk to a friend in Pakistan regularly, I am talking with someone from Iran regularly for another reason, and I tend to be harshly Anti-Saudi because of their links to terrorism.

69 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:44:06pm
70 gwangung  Jul 8, 2014 9:44:51pm

re: #67 J A P

I might add that I once had a professor who mentioned that the government had listened to his phone conversations. He was officially informed of this. This made him feel funny, but at the time I thought to myself, “Geez, they actually follow their own rules.” According to the paranoid far left environment in which I lived at the time that came as a surprise to me. His communications outside the U.S. were being monitored because he had contacts with some people in the Cuban government.

This was pre Bush Cheney administration, right?

(I’m beginning to think that Bush was an amiable, but not very strong leader; with a competent, non-slime chief, he would have muddled through without a lot of the incompetence and sliminess that came to infest his administration)

71 J A P  Jul 8, 2014 9:45:14pm

Is anybody here familiar with one of Greenwald’s sources, John Guandolo?

72 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:46:55pm

re: #68 The War TARDIS

Of course, the poor guy is probably tracking me and my Doctor Who and Taylor Swift fanaticism, and has to read a Doctor Who fanfiction I have written but not completed yet.

73 J A P  Jul 8, 2014 9:49:34pm

re: #68 The War TARDIS

Ah, well back in the days when I live in a paranoid far left world, everyone I knew thought they were being monitored by the government. I remember an acquaintance once said she was sure the FBI had a file on her because her little clique of feminists had been taping photocopies of vulvas on lampposts. My boyfriend at the time asked in a deadpan monotone, “Did you put any above Fourteenth Street?” She gave him a blank stare and he said, “I hate to tell you but no one even noticed.”

74 Mich-again  Jul 8, 2014 9:49:57pm

This was my brush with getting shot by secret service agents. We hung out behind the trailer in Wyandotte MI in 1988 to snap this photo when Bush the Elder walked out. We didn’t realize until we got the pictures developed that we may have spooked the security detail. HEY GEORGE

75 J A P  Jul 8, 2014 9:50:04pm

re: #70 gwangung

Early nineties, if my memory serves.

76 J A P  Jul 8, 2014 9:52:05pm

re: #72 The War TARDIS

Did you see “The Lives of Others?” It’s one of my favorite movies.

77 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 9:52:25pm

re: #73 J A P

I don’t really have a huge issue with it. :)

78 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:52:43pm

Seriously?

79 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 9:53:51pm

re: #78 Gus

Seriously?

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Wait, so the far-reaching, unrestrained NSA…has only monitored five Americans?

80 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 9:54:30pm

re: #79 Targetpractice

Wait, so the far-reaching, unrestrained NSA…has only monitored five Americans?

Guess so.

81 Lidane  Jul 8, 2014 9:57:04pm

re: #74 Mich-again

My brush with the Secret Service happened in 1992. I was a volunteer for the Clinton campaign and Bill had come to Houston to speak at a rally. I had my volunteer badge on and went for a rope fence to avoid the long line at the metal detector I’d already gone through. SS guy got right in my face until I showed the badge and was able to walk by.

82 Mich-again  Jul 8, 2014 9:57:52pm

re: #78 Gus

I love how they used the flag from Fort McHenry for the graphic. ha

83 austin_blue  Jul 8, 2014 10:00:32pm

re: #79 Targetpractice

Wait, so the far-reaching, unrestrained NSA…has only monitored five Americans?

Damn those farging bastiges!

It’s late, my dear Lizards, and I am off for the rack. Sweet scaly dreams.

Oh, and check out Orphan Black at your local DVD store. It’s a Canadian series, released in the US on BBC America, and it is outstanding.

84 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 10:00:59pm

re: #80 Gus

I decided to yell at Greenwald.

I feel better.

85 sagehen  Jul 8, 2014 10:03:39pm

re: #66 The War TARDIS

I do talk to someone in Iran regularly now.

He may well have been able to find support. Most people there do not like the Ayatollah. Not to mention, hard polling in the country shows that Iranians seem to view the American people positively.

She seemed fascinated that our Parliament, as I explained it, only works 100 days a year, but is paid $160,000+ a year.

Is she equally fascinated that our “Parliament” hates our President, that the parliamentary leaders have handed down an official party loyalty pronouncement that anything the President is for they have to be against?

86 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 10:04:02pm

re: #84 The War TARDIS

I decided to yell at Greenwald.

I feel better.

Cheers!

87 Lidane  Jul 8, 2014 10:06:25pm

Well, that explains the similarities to the Red Wedding:

88 sagehen  Jul 8, 2014 10:07:51pm

re: #81 Lidane

My brush with the Secret Service happened in 1992. I was a volunteer for the Clinton campaign and Bill had come to Houston to speak at a rally. I had my volunteer badge on and went for a rope fence to avoid the long line at the metal detector I’d already gone through. SS guy got right in my face until I showed the badge and was able to walk by.

Mine was in 1976 — I was working for the Ford campaign, when his cute son Steven came to the office to thank us and eat pizza with us. Very very cute son Steven, I had such a crush.

89 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 10:09:34pm

re: #85 sagehen

Probably not, cause she doesn’t like to talk politics, which I don’t mind. I am getting the feeling that a similar situation is going on in Iran right now between Rouhani and Khamenei.

And it is definitely happening between Khamenei and Rafsanjani.

So, for them, this is likely a day ending in y.

90 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 10:29:22pm

re: #89 The War TARDIS

Been meaning to ask, seen the latest teasers for Series 8?

91 The War TARDIS  Jul 8, 2014 10:32:14pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

Yes I have.

92 BeachDem  Jul 8, 2014 10:32:17pm

OK—I can go to sleep now—Sarah pronounces irreparable just as I knew she would— EAR ree PEAR uh bull.

(I thought Gus was messing around with that chartreuse fringey jacket thing, but she was actually wearing it.)

I’ve avoided hearing that screech for quite some time, and had to suffer through 3 minutes and 40 seconds to get to that word, so now I need to take some Advil and try to avoid having nightmares about banshees.

93 Lidane  Jul 8, 2014 10:33:08pm
94 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 10:34:13pm

re: #91 The War TARDIS

Yes I have.

So I’ve heard hints that the Master will be back and now possibly Davros. Are there any of the Doctor’s enemies who know how to stay dead?

95 Jayleia  Jul 8, 2014 10:36:37pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

If the Doctor can’t figure out how to stay dead, and he’s smarter than his enemies, how are THEY supposed to do that?

96 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 10:41:40pm
97 Lancelot Link  Jul 8, 2014 10:42:47pm

re: #78 Gus

NSA targeted 5 Americans?

98 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 10:50:49pm
99 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 10:51:22pm
100 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 10:51:59pm

ME! THEY WERE SPYING ON MEEEE!

101 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 10:54:30pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

ME! THEY WERE SPYING ON MEEEE!

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I really don’t know how a person can function like that, going from day to day convinced they’re the subject of government monitoring. I’m not quite sure if it’s paranoia or narcissism.

102 Gus  Jul 8, 2014 10:57:19pm
103 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 10:58:17pm
104 piratedan  Jul 8, 2014 11:01:07pm

I think I’d rather wait on a bottle of Heinz ketchup to dress up some fries rather than the anticipation of another Greenwald “reveal” that essentially shows the spying organs of the US actually spying on people that are players internationally, be they friend or foe. What’s next GG, water is wet? dogs and cats living together?

seems like his entire fucking shtick is to promote everything like it’s a goddamn summer movie blockbuster and the previews are plainly not that inspiring.

105 BeachDem  Jul 8, 2014 11:04:27pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Perhaps Glenn’s ego is like a gateway drug to hallucinations of overblown importance (hence the “spectacular multicoloured hues.”)

106 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 11:09:09pm
107 BeachDem  Jul 8, 2014 11:13:39pm

re: #102 Gus

I was leaning more toward “Haven’t Got Time for the Pain” (because melodrama never makes me weep anymore.)

Youtube Video

108 Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2014 11:14:01pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

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“We finally have proof that the government spies on Americans!!!”

“So, should we now discuss limits on such programs and agree that there should be barriers?”

“Fuck that, shut down these agencies immediately! That’s the only way to be sure nobody will ever be spied on again!!!”

109 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 11:42:25pm
110 Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2014 11:45:35pm
111 davidroadrunner  Jul 8, 2014 11:55:02pm

“No hard feelings, Ms. Coulter.”

112 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 12:20:34am
In one 2005 document, intelligence community personnel are instructed how to properly format internal memos to justify FISA surveillance. In the place where the target’s real name would go, the memo offers a fake name as a placeholder: “Mohammed [bigoted word].”

Wow. This is from the people who are supposed to be objective in their analysis.

113 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 12:32:57am

Well, at least some good news: Senate Dems Ready To Unveil Bill Reversing Hobby Lobby Ruling

114 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 12:40:36am
115 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 1:10:28am

re: #112 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wow. This is from the people who are supposed to be objective in their analysis.

Yes, that’s pretty ugly - in 2005, under the Bush administration. Nine years ago.

116 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 1:13:35am

Note that even when LGF was supposed to be so “far right,” I never tolerated those kinds of bigoted slurs here, and banned people who used them.

117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 2:09:16am

118 Varek Raith  Jul 9, 2014 2:28:17am

Kentucky GOP lawmaker defends coal: ‘We all agree’ Mars is the same temperature as Earth

“I won’t get into the debate about climate change,” Smith said. “But I’ll simply point out that I think in academia we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that. Yet there are no coal mines on Mars. There’s no factories on Mars that I’m aware of.”
…
The average temperature on Earth is about 57 degrees Fahrenheit, while the average temperature on Mars is about -81 degrees Fahrenheit.

And another moron;

“The dinosaurs died, and we don’t know why, but the world adjusted, and to say that this is what’s going to cause detriment to people, I just don’t think it’s out there,” said state Rep. Kevin Sinnette (D-Ashland).

Your dumb comments for the day.
Yeesh.

119 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 2:32:39am

re: #114 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’m expecting more scenes like that in the coming days. Brazil has had a ton of demonstrations and controversy over the money they’ve spent on the World Cup at the expense of internal problems in the country.

All they got for it was the loss of their two best players, a trip to the semis, and a 7-1 curbstomping by the Germans. I’m expecting their media and fans to be angry for a good while.

120 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 3:13:01am

It’s morning! Good day.

So, is Greemwald now done and over? Seems the big blockbuster was a big dud.

Oh well, he did his best to draw as much publicity and bucks as he could out of the whole thing before it just withered out.

Anyone think the dudebros learned anything from it all?

I doubt it myself, they were all naive going in…

121 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 3:17:14am

re: #120 ObserverArt

Anyone think the dudebros learned anything from it all?

They have learned the exact same lesson the Tea Party has:

The lamestream media is ignoring the TRUTH!

122 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 3:24:41am

re: #121 Lidane

They have learned the exact same lesson the Tea Party has:

The lamestream media is ignoring the TRUTH!

Yeah, there is always that.

If you don’t get the facts you want claim they are being withheld. It is the only legitimate way to maintain the paranoia.

123 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 3:41:20am

*headdesk*

Iowa GOPer: ‘Dictator’ Obama’s ‘Impeachment’ Should Be An Option

God, this sort of rhetoric pisses me off. NO ONE in this country knows what it’s like to live under a dictator unless they defected from or fled an actual tyranny.

This horseshit pissed me off when Dubya was being compared to Hitler and it pisses me off now. There isn’t a single American POTUS that qualifies as a dictator. At all. Ever. The GOP need to STFU with that noise.

124 Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2014 3:56:28am

re: #70 gwangung

This was pre Bush Cheney administration, right?

(I’m beginning to think that Bush was an amiable, but not very strong leader; with a competent, non-slime chief, he would have muddled through without a lot of the incompetence and sliminess that came to infest his administration)

Yeah, I always referred to him as a meat puppet. Cheney, Rummy, his dad and friends pulling his strings. Like a Ron Reagan who couldn’t remember the lines of his script.

125 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 4:21:15am

Glad I got a good night’s sleep without knowing about the nothing-burger from Greenwald.

I’ll bet he’s sobbing into his pillow, though.

126 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 4:28:40am

re: #118 Varek Raith

“The dinosaurs humans died, and we don’t know why, but the world adjusted, and to say that this is what’s going to cause detriment to people cetaceans, I just don’t think it’s out there,” said state Rep. Kevin Sinnette (D-Ashland). cetaceans the world over.

Edited for future accuracy.

127 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 4:33:47am

Are Reddit users up and around at 9 am? So, reporting the “news” is now akin to “making up” the news?

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 4:41:54am

SO TOTALLY TROLLING THE RACISTS

129 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 4:49:59am

Of course it’s not the “finale” if Glenn plays his cards right he can drag this out for years to come.

130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 9, 2014 4:55:55am

re: #124 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, I always referred to him as a meat puppet. Cheney, Rummy, his dad and friends pulling his strings. Like a Ron Reagan who couldn’t remember the lines of his script.

I even supported him on immigration reform, but his own party killed that.

131 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 4:56:18am

Morning Lizards. 6:00 A.M. and it’s already 75 degrees out and the frigging sun hasn’t even topped the horizon.

132 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 4:58:20am

What goes into hospitals should stay in hospitals, not broadcast to the world.

Nurse Firing Highlights Hazards of Social Media in Hospitals

abcnews.go.com

Yes, this woman was insensitive and indiscreet. How long before she got enough attention that would drive her to post other photos, perhaps some with people in them? If, as she claims, she lifted the photo from a doctor’s instagram acct, shouldn’t he be fired as well?

133 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 4:59:37am

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

Of course it’s not the “finale” if Glenn plays his cards right he can drag this out for years to come.

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Later, it will be revealed that “Pierre was on my back to publish something”, so this was all I had at the time.”

134 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 5:00:57am

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

Of course it’s not the “finale” if Glenn plays his cards right he can drag this out for years to come.

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Fizzling finale fails, falls flat.

135 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 5:01:10am

re: #129 Pie-onist Overlord

According to the article, the FBI was running the show, not the NSA, too.

FBI surveillance of Muslims with alleged ties to terrorist organizations or their supporters isn’t exactly a groundbreakingly new story.

136 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:01:48am

re: #131 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. 6:00 A.M. and it’s already 75 degrees out and the frigging sun hasn’t even topped the horizon.

76 here at 8:01 w/83% humidity; we’re supposed to have t-storms later.

137 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 5:02:19am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but if it were up to me those Secret Service guys would be in for serious discipline tonight.

This really is not cool, under any circumstances. Yes, it’s funny because nothing happened. But if that had been someone who intended harm to the President we wouldn’t be laughing right now.

There are nut groups playing with toxins (definite) and bio (potentially).

138 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 5:03:43am

I’m sure that Glenn’s story of the NSA spying on the other 313,899,995 Americans will be so much more enthralling.

139 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 5:04:30am

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow. That racist idiot can’t even troll properly. Total fail.

140 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:06:20am

re: #138 b.d.

I’m sure that Glenn’s story of the NSA spying on the other 313,899,995 Americans will be so much more enthralling.

Isn’t that beeping sound on my coffeemaker only supposed to be 3 beeps? Well, it’s 5. I knew something wasn’t right.

And they turned off the light in my microwave, too.

////

141 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 5:10:06am

Fucking lawsuits, how do they work?

According to the Associated Press, U.S. District Judge Robert Cleland dismissed the latest lawsuit because the FBI’s report on gangs “does not recommend any particular course of action for local law enforcement to follow.” Meaning that, just because the FBI report calls the Juggalos—or anyone else—a gang, it doesn’t meant it’s necessarily trying to crack down on them.

142 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 5:11:57am

My opponent called me the wrong kind of bigot! Eleventy!

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 5:13:39am

re: #142 Lidane

My opponent called me the wrong kind of bigot! Eleventy!

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Every time I see a photo of Chris McDaniel, I think it’s Glenn Greenwald.

They are serious doppelgangers.

144 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 5:14:20am

re: #140 Justanotherhuman

Isn’t that beeping sound on my coffeemaker only supposed to be 3 beeps? Well, it’s 5. I knew something wasn’t right.

And they turned off the light in my microwave, too.

////

In this day of Internet of Things appliances, it was probably just your run of the mill hacker screwing with your stuff.

only 1/2 //

145 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 5:14:46am

{{yawn}}

I have to do a better job of scheduling my days

Didn’t get home from work till about 1;30 this morning,,,,,didn’t fall asleep till about 2:00

Forgot I had scheduled a company to come over this morning to remove a couple of trees from the property

They got here at 7:30

YOU do the sleep/ math

146 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 5:16:06am

AND ,,,, I’m out of coffee!!!!

147 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 5:16:46am

Heh, from The Intercept’s comment section:

Hooshang Amirahmadi isn’t Muslim, as you clearly state in the article: ‘Amirahmadi, who does not self-identify as a Muslim and describes himself as an atheist.’

So why is he described as such by you in this comment, and in the article? ‘Even if the government obtained FISA warrants to monitor some or all of the five Muslim-Americans…’

Reply

So Glenn just calls him a Muslim because…..?

148 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 5:17:52am

re: #144 Bubblehead II

In this day of Internet of Things appliances, it was probably just your run of the mill hacker screwing with your stuff.

only 1/2 //

Wife and I are at Kitchen War. Kid gave her a Keurig, and she retired our perfectly good French press.

149 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 5:18:19am

I weep for my state. These are the kind of ignorant jackwagons the Texas GOP nominates for office:

Iraq War vet Larry Smith is the Republican nominee to take on Rep. Filemon Vela (D-Texas) in November. He’s also, it turns out, an armchair psychiatrist. According to Smith, Barack Obama’s handling of the child refugee crisis along the Mexican border suggests the president is suffering from Münchausen syndrome by proxy, a rare psychological condition that causes caretakers to abuse kids.

What the actual fuck? These people are deranged.

150 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:21:21am

re: #145 sattv4u2

{{yawn}}

I have to do a better job of scheduling my days

Didn’t get home from work till about 1;30 this morning,,,,,didn’t fall asleep till about 2:00

Forgot I had scheduled a company to come over this morning to remove a couple of trees from the property

They got here at 7:30

YOU do the sleep/ math

You pay—always—for removing trees. Unless they’re already dead.

Five and a half hours is what I usually live by; 6 tops, unless I’m sick.

151 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 5:21:24am

re: #149 Lidane

I weep for my state. These are the kind of ignorant jackwagons the Texas GOP nominates for office:

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What the actual fuck? These people are deranged.

Another idea donated to American awareness by Law and Order.

152 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:24:24am

re: #149 Lidane

I weep for my state. These are the kind of ignorant jackwagons the Texas GOP nominates for office:

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What the actual fuck? These people are deranged.

As someone who also stayed in a Holiday Inn once, I’d say Smith is the one with the not-so-rare psychological disorder these days: ODS.

153 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 5:26:29am

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

You pay—always—for removing trees. Unless they’re already dead.

Five and a half hours is what I usually live by; 6 tops, unless I’m sick.

After working four 12+ hour days in a row (and add on the nearly 3 hour round trip commute each day) I really needed more than 5-6 this morning

AND,,, one of the trees ( a bradford pear) is growing into a beautiful leyland cypress out front of the house. The other tree is pushing up against (and about to knock over) a portion of the stockade fence in the backyard

So both are going out of necessity

154 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 5:26:51am

bbiab

155 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 5:27:37am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Wife and I are at Kitchen War. Kid gave her a Keurig, and she retired our perfectly good French press.

We picked one up a couple of months ago (K cup) and like it. It hasn’t replaced our cold brew setup (nothing will). We like the different varieties teas, coffee, and hot chocolates you can get for it.

156 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:29:01am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Wife and I are at Kitchen War. Kid gave her a Keurig, and she retired our perfectly good French press.

I use both. Usually the French press at supper time, if I want a couple of cups then for a pretty much no-cal “dessert” (sweetened w/Splenda and 2% milk).

157 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:32:10am

re: #153 sattv4u2

After working four 12+ hour days in a row (and add on the nearly 3 hour round trip commute each day) I really needed more than 5-6 this morning

AND,,, one of the trees ( a bradford pear) is growing into a beautiful leyland cypress out front of the house. The other tree is pushing up against (and about to knock over) a portion of the stockade fence in the backyard

So both are going out of necessity

Oh well, if it’s a Bradford pear. : )

No, really, they couldn’t be replanted elsewhere on the property? But I get your point. People sometimes forget that sometimes a small plant grows into a monstrous blighter.

158 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 5:42:04am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Wife and I are at Kitchen War. Kid gave her a Keurig, and she retired our perfectly good French press.

I use my Keurig for hot tea and hot chocolate because it heats up water very quickly. The French press gets pulled out for flavored coffees. The drip coffee maker comes out for regular coffee.

Thank goodness for cabinet space. Haha.

159 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 5:43:21am

re: #147 b.d.

Heh, from The Intercept’s comment section:

So Glenn just calls him a Muslim because…..?

Because he hangs around with John Guandolo? In spite of his alleged favoring of Palestinians over Israel, GG hates everyone except himself, but he must take that side to appease the Dudebros™ because he must be the hippest guy in the room, too, the King Kong of hipsterdom.

160 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 5:48:10am

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

Because he hangs around with John Guandolo? In spite of his alleged favoring of Palestinians over Israel, GG hates everyone except himself, but he must take that side to appease the DudebrosTM because he must be the hippest guy in the room, too, the King Kong of hipsterdom.

I guess Glenn thought this was going to be the grand unifying finale because:

* It happened under Bush so the Dems who have been on Glenn’s ass would now naturally gravitate to him now?
* It involved Americans which would outrage all? (no matter their past associations)

I’m really at a loss as to why this would be considered the end of a fireworks show, go out like a bang finale.

This feels more like watching the series finale of Lost.

161 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 5:53:29am

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

Oh well, if it’s a Bradford pear. : )

No, really, they couldn’t be replanted elsewhere on the property? But I get your point. People sometimes forget that sometimes a small plant grows into a monstrous blighter.

No. The pine was about 25 feet tall and where it was no way to get deep enough to get any of the roots to go with it

The bradford was,,, well ,, as you said, a bradford. We never planted that one. It just grew and as I said, right into a nice leyland cypress. The bradford is also right up against the telephone/ cable companies pedestal so no way to get the the roots of that one either

BUT,,,, we will be planting 4 trees different places around the property

162 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 5:56:17am

re: #96 Gus

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For the people who are too young to remember those two, there’s always these two:

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163 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 6:06:17am

Greenwald touts that the NSA and FBI had wide latitude in carrying out surveillance against … wait for it… suspects, including Americans who were long believed to be working with/for terror groups.

He’s going on about how programs that ended in 2008. Collection status - terminated 02/01/2008 through 02/08/2008. In other words, the collection of data on those individuals ended under those former programs.

This is what Greenwald thinks is a blockbuster?

The FBI had CAIR under surveillance? That’s supposed to be newsy? That they even had some attorneys who worked in terrorism related cases under surveillance? Lynne Stewart conspired with her clients to send messages to Sheikh Rahman’s followers in violation of her agreements with prosecutors to not do so.

For a bureaucracy that was supposedly out of control, the program ended not with a bang, but a whimper. And all without Snowden stealing documents to “blow the whistle”.

164 Kid A  Jul 9, 2014 6:06:19am

Relocating to Germany.

165 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:06:33am
166 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:08:48am
167 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:09:46am

Yup - they’re going for the cheap smear right away.

168 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 6:11:06am
Current and former law enforcement officials reject that analogy, and say that the FISA process is too rigorous to permit any abuse. Still, several acknowledge that political speech is sometimes viewed as a sufficient reason to launch an investigation that can culminate in full-blown surveillance.

In other words, despite Greenwald’s claims of a lax environment and NSA doing everything to hoover up every bit of data on everyone, the agency does nothing of the sort. It’s possible that an investigation that can result in someone getting on to the surveillance dashboard, but that’s because their words and deeds are putting them on it.

Where there is an issue is that speech alone shouldn’t be the factor - there should be more (steps in furtherance of financing terror or carrying out attacks or similar). Political speech is protected speech, but when you start talking of overthrowing the government, or sending funds to terror groups or making steps to join with terror groups, then the NSA surveillance is warranted.

169 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 6:11:31am

Little Green Footballs under attack again…

Another one-time Kamikaze attack…post and die!

(Don’t know if many caught this ‘shop from last Friday morning)

170 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 6:12:08am

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Yup - they’re going for the cheap smear right away.

They’re all chirping Mona’s favorite talking point, which she got from the Dead Louse—an actual for-reals anti-Muslim hate site.

171 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:14:36am

re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord

They’re all chirping Mona’s favorite talking point, which she got from the Dead Louse—an actual for-reals anti-Muslim hate site.

The bullshit is about to get deep.

172 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 6:15:43am

Am I the only person left on the planet with a whistling tea kettle? I do use it to make tea but also to water my inside plants. : )

Only 4 small appliances on the counter here, not counting microwave; the 5 others stay in the cupboard. I am pressed for counter space, but it’s a cozy, compact Pullman type kitchen, about 3 ft width of “free” space between cupboards, so not stressful otherwise—everything is within easy reach and I like it. Now, I’m wondering, though, where I’m going to put my dining room table and chairs in the apt downstairs. There’s a 3 BR, 2B house on the property here, but they’re not moving—that’s what we really wanted. It’s a deal for a decent house around here and I’m not moving elsewhere because I have really good landlord/landlady and I like the location, safe and clean.

First world problems once again. : )

173 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 6:17:25am

re: #172 Justanotherhuman

Am I the only person left on the planet with a whistling tea kettle?

Nope

Mrs Satty has one sitting on one of the burners of the stove 24/7

(that stated, she usually micro-blasts her cup-o-water for her tea which she has 3-4 cups a day)

174 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 6:18:59am

re: #163 lawhawk

Greenwald touts that the NSA and FBI had wide latitude in carrying out surveillance against … wait for it… suspects, including Americans who were long believed to be working with/for terror groups.

He’s going on about how programs that ended in 2008. Collection status - terminated 02/01/2008 through 02/08/2008. In other words, the collection of data on those individuals ended under those former programs.

This is what Greenwald thinks is a blockbuster?

The FBI had CAIR under surveillance? That’s supposed to be newsy? That they even had some attorneys who worked in terrorism related cases under surveillance? Lynne Stewart conspired with her clients to send messages to Sheikh Rahman’s followers in violation of her agreements with prosecutors to not do so.

For a bureaucracy that was supposedly out of control, the program ended not with a bang, but a whimper. And all without Snowden stealing documents to “blow the whistle”.

And lets not forget is wasn’t only the Federal alphabet soup agencies engaged in covert surveillance of Muslims. The NYPD was also engaged in some pretty hinky surveillance ops as well.

175 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 6:21:55am

re: #163 lawhawk

Greenwald touts that the NSA and FBI had wide latitude in carrying out surveillance against … wait for it… suspects, including Americans who were long believed to be working with/for terror groups.

He’s going on about how programs that ended in 2008. Collection status - terminated 02/01/2008 through 02/08/2008. In other words, the collection of data on those individuals ended under those former programs.

This is what Greenwald thinks is a blockbuster?

The FBI had CAIR under surveillance? That’s supposed to be newsy? That they even had some attorneys who worked in terrorism related cases under surveillance? Lynne Stewart conspired with her clients to send messages to Sheikh Rahman’s followers in violation of her agreements with prosecutors to not do so.

For a bureaucracy that was supposedly out of control, the program ended not with a bang, but a whimper. And all without Snowden stealing documents to “blow the whistle”.

I think it’s odd that the left doesn’t think of Stewart as a traitor.

It’s one thing to represent the oppressed, but not only to be sympathetic to, but collude, with criminals like that is reprehensible for a member of the bar sworn to uphold the Constitution—all of it.

176 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 6:24:20am

re: #174 Bubblehead II

And lets not forget is wasn’t only the Federal alphabet soup agencies engaged in covert surveillance of Muslims. The NYPD was also engaged in some pretty hinky surveillance ops as well.

Yeah, but that was probably under the command of Rudy Giuliani. And, at the time he could do nothing wrong. If he personally grabbed a dark-skinned and bearded guy off the street and pummeled him on camera, large segments of America would have cheered.

Actually, not much has really changed has it?

/

177 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 6:25:13am

Headline of the day from Al Jaz: Israel-Palestian-Clashes *DELETE THIS*

178 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:25:51am
179 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 6:28:38am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Yeah, but that was probably under the command of Rudy Giuliani. And, at the time he could do nothing wrong. If he personally grabbed a dark-skinned and bearded guy off the street and pummeled him on camera, large segments of America would have cheered.

Actually, not much has really changed has it?

/

They disbanded the unit after it’s activities became known.

180 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 6:29:30am

I’m supposed to be impressed that Greenwald interviewed people who were previously under investigation by FBI, NSA, or other agencies (including the NYPD who carried out a wide-ranging surveillance of Muslims in the NYC metro area because they didn’t trust the feds to share intel on a timely basis via the JTTF).

What are those people going to say? That it was warranted?

181 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 6:30:17am

re: #178 Charles Johnson

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What “archive”?

182 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 6:30:21am

SCHROOMS!!!!

The news: Magic mushrooms don’t just make you see the sound of a distant airplane ripple across your living room wall. They also calm the ego and boost your sense of optimism, according to a new study.

So how does a psychedelic mushroom actually change your brain? It sounds crazy, but shrooms’ mind-altering compound (psilocybin) helps unlock mental states that are normally only active when we sleep, inducing a state of wakeful dreaming with which many users should be more than familiar.

The more mind-blowing part, though, is not how the drug amplifies some sections of the brain, but how it mutes others. When the emotional centers of the brain light up with activity, the action in the regions responsible for higher-level thinking and our sense of self, or ego, become hushed.

The drug’s long-term effects seem far more pleasant than the terrifying, mind-bending trips that can be brought on by too high a dose.

183 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 6:30:39am
184 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 6:31:25am

re: #178 Charles Johnson

Suddenly, the spectacular finale isn’t the finale at all. Uh huh.

So what would it take to get a final finale? Could we kickstart GG’s stay at a Trappist monastery?

185 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 6:31:29am
186 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 6:32:01am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

I think it’s odd that the left doesn’t think of Stewart as a traitor.

It’s one thing to represent the oppressed, but not only to be sympathetic to, but collude, with criminals like that is reprehensible for a member of the bar sworn to uphold the Constitution—all of it.

If you think back to the Bush era of Stewart’s case many were embracing radical ideas and heroes in response to having a Republican in the White house at a time of crisis. People did a lot of stupid things. 9-11 truth, Ward Churchill, George Galloway, Robert Fisk, volunteering as a human shield for Saddam, questioning the timing behind every terror attack, etc. A lot of people were nutty back then and they weren’t cured. They’ll be nutty again in the near future.

187 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:32:51am
188 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 6:33:33am

George Takei!! (14 min -TED TALK)
Youtube Video

189 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 6:33:53am

Nope, no reason at all to try and find out what this guy is up to.

“Iranian policymakers will have the opportunity to make policy statements first hand. I believe Mr. Ahmadinejad’s government will accept my request [to open an office].”

190 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 6:33:56am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

So what would it take to get a final finale? Could we kickstart GG’s stay at a Trappist monastery?

Isn’t there one in KY?

191 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 6:36:10am

Israel - Additional video of the 5 Hamas Islamic terrorist killed while trying to strorm an Israeli village

Liveleak Video

192 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 6:36:30am

re: #182 FemNaziBitch

SCHROOMS!!!!

“Wakeful dreaming” will get you into auto accidents. I know when I’m “day dreaming” while driving, even briefly, it’s pretty scary not to remember that I just passed the road I live on. It’s called “not paying attention” and that can be fatal.

And if you have ever experienced “night terrors” as I did in my 30s when undergoing a lot of stress, you don’t want anything to do with “magic mushrooms”. : )

193 Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2014 6:36:33am

re: #183 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

“This is my finale! My magnum opus! I have the names of the NSA’s victims!”

“There were only 5 people. And this program ended 7 years ago.”

“I’m not done yet! There’s more to come!”

194 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 6:38:11am

re: #179 Bubblehead II

They disbanded the unit after it’s activities became known.

Understood.

My comment about nothing changing is about much of America still not trusting of anything to do with the Middle East and the Muslim religion. Look how it still spills over and gets attached to Barack Hussein Obama. You know, the secretive Muslim Kenyan that is destroying this country.

By the way, has there been any blowback with Bill de Blasio ending the program?

195 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 6:38:12am

ZOMG WHY WON’T OBUMMER DO ANYTHING ABOUT TEH BORDER?

Obama Asks for $3.7 Billion to Aid Border

President Obama urged Congress on Tuesday to quickly provide almost $4 billion to confront a surge of young migrants from Central America crossing the border into Texas, calling it “an urgent humanitarian situation.”

But the request quickly became entangled in the fierce political debate over immigration: Republicans said they were wary of Mr. Obama’s request and could not immediately support it, given what they called his administration’s failure to secure the Mexican border after years of illegal crossings. Mr. Obama could face resistance from members of his own party as well.

WE CAN’T SUPPORT HIS IDEAS! BORDER SECURITY! DEPORT ERRYBODY!

President Obama simply cannot win with these people.

196 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 6:38:19am

re: #186 Killgore Trout

If you think back to the Bush era of Stewart’s case many were embracing radical ideas and heroes in response to having a Republican in the White house at a time of crisis. People did a lot of stupid things. 9-11 truth, Ward Churchill, George Galloway, Robert Fisk, volunteering as a human shield for Saddam. A lot of people were nutty back then and they weren’t cured. They’ll be nutty again in the near future.

Sad how the nuts du jour always seem to rise to the top ((sorry for mixing metaphors)))

197 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 6:38:37am

So I’ve been brushing up on my math in order to take more advanced statistics courses, and I’ve got to say, Khan academy is really cool. I highly recommend people check them out if they want to shore up a forgotten skill or learn something new.

And I now know trigonometry again. Slightly less cool than kung-fu, but overall more useful.

198 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 6:39:05am

re: #191 Killgore Trout

Israel - Additional video of the 5 Hamas Islamic terrorist killed while trying to strorm an Israeli village

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Was just watching that

Thought in my head prior to the ‘splosions,,,,, “Buh Bye!”

199 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:39:36am
200 sattv4u2  Jul 9, 2014 6:39:56am

bbiab

tree removal guys are done

time to pay!

201 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 6:40:08am

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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LIES!!!

202 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 6:41:17am

re: #194 ObserverArt

You mean other than from the likes of Geller and Co? Nope.

The NYPD’s new efforts on community outreach may do more to gain intel and trust among local community leaders and folks than the surveillance and stop and frisk ever did.

Shootings are down, murders are down, and stop and frisk is down significantly. That’s despite what naysayers were claiming would have happened. Effective policing is what gets results and with a recent spike in shootings as the weather warmed, the NYPD sent more cops on the street from behind desks. Combined with compustat and other methods, they can focus on areas where there are outbreaks of shootings.

203 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 6:42:16am

And the biggest loser in all of this is Pierre.

Poor fella.

204 Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2014 6:42:46am

re: #195 Lidane

ZOMG WHY WON’T OBUMMER DO ANYTHING ABOUT TEH BORDER?

Obama Asks for $3.7 Billion to Aid Border

WE CAN’T SUPPORT HIS IDEAS! BORDER SECURITY! DEPORT ERRYBODY!

President Obama simply cannot win with these people.

I wish they’d be honest and admit that their desire to see the man fail is greater than their desire to actually fix any of the nation’s problems. Because if the problems are actually addressed, then they’ve nothing to bitch about anymore.

205 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 6:43:03am

re: #203 b.d.

And the biggest loser in all of this is Pierre.

Poor fella.

He has his money to keep him alive and kicking.

206 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 6:43:40am

re: #193 Targetpractice

“This is my finale! My magnum opus! I have the names of the NSA’s victims!”

“There were only 5 people. And this program ended 7 years ago.”

“I’m not done yet! There’s more to come!”

First Look Media

207 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 6:45:59am

I AM SHOCKED! SHOCKED I TELL YOU! VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SHOCKED!!!!!

208 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 6:46:07am
209 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 6:54:13am

re:
#195

The secret Kenyan Muslim’s request for moar money is obviously a further sign he’s trying to force are Country to accept these disease-ridden fraudulent voters. //

210 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 6:55:39am

re:
#193

Yes, but they could do this! Don’t you see?!

211 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 6:57:43am

Anyone have any info on this?
Pallywood caught on BBC
Liveleak Video

212 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 6:58:29am

re: #190 FemNaziBitch

Isn’t there one in KY?

Yeah—Gethsemane, Thomas Merton’s old digs. Good wine and cheese.

213 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 6:59:36am

re: #196 sattv4u2

Sad how the nuts du jour always seem to rise to the top ((sorry for mixing metaphors)))

Creme de la Cranks.

214 Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2014 7:01:14am

re: #149 Lidane

I don’t know if you watch the comments on the Statesman website (there is some real sad comedy there), but there is a troll that is posting this crap under every article that has “Obama” in it. I think this guy thinks that this is actually a thing. Very sad.

215 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 7:01:24am

re: #211 Killgore Trout

He was in shock that Brazil got pounded by Germany? /

216 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 7:02:23am

Well, good news for my feline overlord with the intestinal blockage. They operated on him yesterday and removed the hair ball and he is apparently recovering quickly from the surgery. Might pick him up tonight.

217 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 7:03:59am

Who knew “fuck” was the same word in Hebrew?
Gaza Rocket Attack on Israeli Army Base
Youtube Video

218 simoom  Jul 9, 2014 7:04:10am

re: #127 Justanotherhuman

Are Reddit users up and around at 9 am? So, reporting the “news” is now akin to “making up” the news?

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What was interesting about his IAmA, is that he posted it to Reddit, then immediately removed it. That made it so it was unlisted in the r/IAmA subreddit, but still could be accessed if you knew the URL. He then tweeted a link to it on his Twitter feed. This made it so that all of the initial traffic was only flowing in from his Twitter followers (and from folks who happened to be refreshing is Reddit user page). Later on the IAmA was restored to general visibility with a couple dozen questions already asked and upvoted.

219 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 7:04:38am

re: #215 lawhawk

He was in shock that Brazil got pounded by Germany? /

Well, at least he recovered quickly.

220 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:04:45am
221 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 7:06:01am

re: #214 Dave In Austin

I don’t know if you watch the comments on the Statesman website (there is some real sad comedy there), but there is a troll that is posting this crap under every article that has “Obama” in it. I think this guy thinks that this is actually a thing. Very sad.

For the most part I try to avoid the comments sections. I don’t need to be reminded just how batshit crazy the RWNJs in this state have gotten.

222 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:06:27am

And,

We now have the concept of Corrective Rape. But I guess it is just too much for the GOP-types to advocate before November.

223 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:07:07am

re: #216 Bulworth

Well, good news for my feline overlord with the intestinal blockage. They operated on him yesterday and removed the hair ball and he is apparently recovering quickly from the surgery. Might pick him up tonight.

Damn Hairballs!

(((Bullworths Feline Overlord))))

224 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:07:09am

re: #218 simoom

What was interesting about his IAmA, is that he posted it to Reddit, then immediately removed it. That made it so it was unlisted in the r/IAmA subreddit, but still could be accessed if you knew the URL. He then tweeted a link to it on his Twitter feed. This made it so that all of the initial traffic was only flowing in from his Twitter followers (and from folks who happened to be refreshing is Reddit user page). Later on the IAmA was restored to general visibility with a couple dozen questions already asked and upvoted.

He thinks he’s clever with this kind of shit. : )

225 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:07:34am

This idiotic wingnut meme, again:
DUMBASS it was NEVER 100% your responsibility or even 0.000001% your responsibility.

226 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:09:56am

re: #197 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

So I’ve been brushing up on my math in order to take more advanced statistics courses, and I’ve got to say, Khan academy is really cool. I highly recommend people check them out if they want to shore up a forgotten skill or learn something new.

And I now know trigonometry again. Slightly less cool than kung-fu, but overall more useful.

Do you really think it could help me?

227 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 7:10:36am

re:
#220

But I thought the RWNJ plan was to wall themselves off in super secure protected communities where the outside world can’t infect them.

228 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:10:49am

Despite the awful allergies, it might be nice today in my part of the world .

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 07/09/2014

*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
*********************************
Trees: Low Concentration
Weeds: Low Concentration
Grass: Moderate Concentration
Mold: High Concentration

229 Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2014 7:11:40am
230 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:12:49am

re: #225 Pie-onist Overlord

This idiotic wingnut meme, again:
DUMBASS it was NEVER 100% your responsibility or even 0.000001% your responsibility.

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Let’s see if we can turn this somewhat logical.

How can other men’s sperm be 100% of my financial responsibility and none of my business?

231 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:14:20am
232 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:15:55am

WHY WHY WHY are there always more buns in a package of hotdog buns than there are hotdogs in a package?

IT’S AN EVIL PLOT BY THE BUN BAKERS & HOTDOG MAKERS TO SLOWLY DRIVE PEOPLE INSANE.

233 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 7:16:24am

re: #226 FemNaziBitch

Do you really think it could help me?

I don’t know what kind of a learner you are. For me, it works really well. You’d have to try it and see. The hardest part is probably figuring out where you need to begin.

234 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:17:04am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Let’s see if we can turn this somewhat logical.

IT’S NOT YOUR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LIBTARD BECAUSE U ARE ALL UNEMPLOYED & LIVING OFF TEH WELFARES ON TEH RIGHTWING TAXPAYERS EXPENS!!!!!!

235 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 9, 2014 7:18:35am

Good morning lizards! I haven’t been following the news lately and heard about what’s going on in Israel last night. I called my friends in Virginia who’s son lives in Tel Aviv and said he’s fine right now. His mom is definitely worried though. They just spent a week in Israel visiting him. She told me it was fantastic and very peaceful the whole time. The shit hit the fan 2 days after they left. Her son doesn’t see any chance of being called up for the reserves any time soon. His poor mom. She follows the news constantly. It’s got to be so tough knowing your son is there.

And the rockets keep coming…

236 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:19:26am

Youtube Video

from 3effJeff’s excellent Pages comment. give credit where credit is due.

237 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:19:39am

re: #233 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I don’t know what kind of a learner you are. For me, it works really well. You’d have to try it and see. The hardest part is probably figuring out where you need to begin.

5th grade

238 Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2014 7:20:14am

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Who knew “fuck” was the same word in Hebrew?
Gaza Rocket Attack on Israeli Army Base
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Israeli mom: “Why are you so late getting back from base?”
Reservist son: “The whole platoon was held down. Too many fukim.”

239 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:20:31am

This is pure, unmitigated horse hockey because it’s not “information”, or at least facts, it’s GG & Co’s interpretation of them. And we’re to believe that the pipsqueak Snowden is really directing the release of this obfuscated, deceiving, and false junk?

“Do you worry that the amount of information that has been released overwhelms the public? I read everything that is published and I find it overwhelming at times. When I talk to family and friends about the stories I often see their eyes glaze over”

GG:
“This is one reason I think we were right to space out the stories rather than just putting everything out there at once.

“Aside from the fact that our source, Edward Snowden, insisted that we report the stories one by one, I think this method has proven to be the best for public consumption.

“I’ve been amazed at how long the interest level in this story has been sustained, and how intense it has been all over the world, literally.”

Face it, GG, you’ve been too busy trying to line your pockets with your POS book (started, of course, before your savior, Pierre, came along), and not doing real journalism, but drive-by bullshit.

What “stories”? The ones you’re making up as you go along? Or is it just one big, old bloated-with-your ego “story”?

240 Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2014 7:23:06am

Wife is being tested for West Nile this morning. She has some unexplained symptoms that are indicative of the virus. If she come up positive, our redneck hillbilly tire collecting neighbor is going to be hating life….

241 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 7:23:43am

re: #172 Justanotherhuman

Am I the only person left on the planet with a whistling tea kettle? I do use it to make tea but also to water my inside plants. : )

Only 4 small appliances on the counter here, not counting microwave; the 5 others stay in the cupboard. I am pressed for counter space, but it’s a cozy, compact Pullman type kitchen, about 3 ft width of “free” space between cupboards, so not stressful otherwise—everything is within easy reach and I like it. Now, I’m wondering, though, where I’m going to put my dining room table and chairs in the apt downstairs. There’s a 3 BR, 2B house on the property here, but they’re not moving—that’s what we really wanted. It’s a deal for a decent house around here and I’m not moving elsewhere because I have really good landlord/landlady and I like the location, safe and clean.

First world problems once again. : )

I have a whistling tea kettle! I guess I bought it to remind me of my childhood. My mom always used it to heat water for instant coffee or for tea. She used a percolator for coffee.

I would bet my kitchen is smaller than yours. I’m too lazy to take a tape measure to it now, but I’ve got less than 3 ft of counter space for sure. I store some stuff on top of the fridge.

Cooking equipment: two burner gas cookstove, running off bottled LP, cold water sink, fridge, microwave (on top of fridge), wok, small fry pan, couple of sauce pans, stock pot with steamer insert, rice cooker, slow cooker. The last two are outside the kitchen for space reasons. For coffee, I use a French press. For instant, I can use the hot water from the drinking water dispenser in the living room.

Despite the limitations, I’ve had up to 12 people over for dinner. My students include some excellent cooks, who are adept at dealing with limited space and equipment. I can manage OK, too.

242 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 9, 2014 7:24:32am
243 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 7:26:50am

Is it really a federal requirement that I produce a physical original or certified copy of my birth certificate for employment? My last job, since HR was in California and I was here in Texas I just got my uncle to scan my birth certificate and save it into a PDF, which I emailed to HR. They were fine with it and never asked for a physical document any of the times I traveled to the office.

I’m being told my by new employer that they need a physical document so now I have to go spend money and time at the Vital Statistics office for no goddamn reason. Why isn’t the same scanned document good enough? Blah.

244 Stanley Sea  Jul 9, 2014 7:31:34am

re: #243 Lidane

Is it really a federal requirement that I produce a physical original or certified copy of my birth certificate for employment? My last job, since HR was in California and I was here in Texas I just got my uncle to scan my birth certificate and save it into a PDF, which I emailed to HR.

I’m being told they need a physical document so now I have to go spend money and time at the Vital Statistics office for no goddamn reason. Why isn’t the same scanned document good enough? Blah.

Go to the last page for the requirements. If you have a passport that’s all you need.

If you have a drivers licence and a social security card, that is all you need.

If not, you need the drivers license and the birth cert.

245 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 7:32:11am

re:
#225

Hurr hurr why does mah insurance premium pays for hospital stays for uther peoples??!??!?

246 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:34:19am

re: #241 wheat-dogghazi

I have a whistling tea kettle! I guess I bought it to remind me of my childhood. My mom always used it to heat water for instant coffee or for tea. She used a percolator for coffee.

I would bet my kitchen is smaller than yours. I’m too lazy to take a tape measure to it now, but I’ve got less than 3 ft of counter space for sure. I store some stuff on top of the fridge.

Cooking equipment: two burner gas cookstove, running off bottled LP, cold water sink, fridge, microwave (on top of fridge), wok, small fry pan, couple of sauce pans, stock pot with steamer insert, rice cooker, slow cooker. The last two are outside the kitchen for space reasons. For coffee, I use a French press. For instant, I can use the hot water from the drinking water dispenser in the living room.

Despite the limitations, I’ve had up to 12 people over for dinner. My students include some excellent cooks, who are adept at dealing with limited space and equipment. I can manage OK, too.

Very good! My kitchen is fully equipped with a reg size fridge and stove, so you’re doing very well! I just don’t have a lot of prep room, either, so have learned to economize w/it. For me, it’s going to be a matter of getting a table about half as large and people eating in the LR, too. Although even now, that happens and I don’t mind if they don’t. My last crowd was over a dozen, too, after my son’s funeral (I had prepped everything before hand, which was a cold spread and in the fridge). It was mostly family, though. Some of his friends in Charlotte actually had to go back to work and couldn’t come up.

247 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 7:34:30am

re: #237 FemNaziBitch

5th grade

They have that: khanacademy.org

248 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:35:20am

re: #243 Lidane

Is it really a federal requirement that I produce a physical original or certified copy of my birth certificate for employment? My last job, since HR was in California and I was here in Texas I just got my uncle to scan my birth certificate and save it into a PDF, which I emailed to HR. They were fine with it and never asked for a physical document any of the times I traveled to the office.

I’m being told my by new employer that they need a physical document so now I have to go spend money and time at the Vital Statistics office for no goddamn reason. Why isn’t the same scanned document good enough? Blah.

It’s Texas?

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 7:38:37am

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

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chemtrails!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!

250 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:38:43am

*sigh*

251 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 7:39:00am
252 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:39:11am

Some people are having fun w/GG over at Reddit, asking him how much money he’s made in the last year and such other questions.

Of course, he’s not answering those. Or any others he doesn’t like. He lets his Dudebro™ cohorts blast them.

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:39:23am

How many lives have been saved because of Snowden?

254 Timothy Watson  Jul 9, 2014 7:39:30am

Dumbass ThinkProgress link of the day:
How This California Police Officer Escaped Charges For Shooting A 13-Year-Old Dead
Short version: WHY DIDN’T THE POLICE WALK RIGHT UP TO THE SOMEONE THEY THOUGHT WAS HOLDING AN AK-47 AND USE A TASER ON HIM!?!?!?!

255 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 7:39:33am

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Ugh. Bureaucracy. Lucky that I have an SS card, then. I can bypass all the rest of this shit. Still not happy, but I’ll get over it.

256 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:42:25am

*facepalm*

257 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:43:36am

re: #250 Pie-onist Overlord

*sigh*

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That’s pretty infuriating in its implication that the US is the only country that ever invades another country, or starts a war. We are just imperialistic bastards, all of us, if we don’t agree with his bullshit. I’m not in favor of imperialism and never will be, but this is beyond the pale and encourages distrust, cynicism, and nihilism.

Pathetic old man in his dotage, trying to live off past glory days. Fuck him, too.

258 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:44:24am

I thought it was humans —no?

259 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 7:45:31am

re:
#251

Sounds familiar—

“Article 13 of Indiana’s 1851 Constitution stated “No Negro or Mulatto shall come into, or settle in, the State, after the adoption of this Constitution.” The 1848 Constitution of Illinois led to one of the harshest Black Code systems in the nation until the Civil War. The Illinois Black Code of 1853 extended a complete prohibition against black immigration into the state.”

civilwartalk.com

260 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 9, 2014 7:47:15am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

chemtrails!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:47:54am

So we call them Dudenuts, or Wingbros?

262 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:48:14am

PRIORITIES!!!

263 Bubblehead II  Jul 9, 2014 7:49:13am

Morning Dose of Takei humor.

264 piratedan  Jul 9, 2014 7:49:38am

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

brought to you by the party that believes their own hype regarding being fiscally responsible. Maybe we can put that old tired meme to rest at last.

265 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:50:29am

Dear little Wingnut whiner baby: this is exactly what “liberal” women do WHEN PREMIUMS & COPAYS ARE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECKS.

266 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:51:18am

Actually the copay isn’t deducted from the paycheck, that has to be paid out of pocket.

267 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 7:52:34am

re: #265 Pie-onist Overlord

These idiots don’t understand how employer provided health insurance works, do they?

268 piratedan  Jul 9, 2014 7:54:13am

re: #267 Lidane

they have the same grasp on that subject as they do about what the Constitution actually says, the three branches of the government and general economic theory.

269 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:54:46am

re: #267 Lidane

These idiots don’t understand how employer provided health insurance works, do they?

270 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:55:14am
271 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:56:14am

re: #265 Pie-onist Overlord

Dear little Wingnut whiner baby: this is exactly what “liberal” women do WHEN PREMIUMS & COPAYS ARE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECKS.

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We aren’t crying. We are voting.

272 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 7:56:47am

re: #265 Pie-onist Overlord

Dear little Wingnut whiner baby: this is exactly what “liberal” women do WHEN PREMIUMS & COPAYS ARE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECKS.

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Look at meeeeeeeeee! That’s what I see it as. Idiots couldn’t get a job in a pie factory, as we say in the south.

273 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:57:08am

I’ve learned that insurance is a complex subject. It requires some frontal lobe development in order to understand.

:0

274 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 7:58:09am

re: #272 Justanotherhuman

Look at meeeeeeeeee! That’s what I see it as. Idiots couldn’t get a job in a pie factory, as we say in the south.

You need SKILLS to work at my pie factory!

275 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 7:58:43am

re: #265 Pie-onist Overlord

Dear little Wingnut whiner baby: this is exactly what “liberal” women do WHEN PREMIUMS & COPAYS ARE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECKS.

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That one has an interesting bio on her twitter nic.

276 piratedan  Jul 9, 2014 7:59:08am

money.msn.com

who knew that the GOP’s constant fucking of that chicken would eventually lead to this?

277 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 7:59:18am

re:
#270

Secure THE Border!!!1

Sally Kohn tweets: Do conservatives realize these kids are being caught at the border; border is fine, immigration system broken.

Hurr hurr Obama sux! Send ‘em back home! USAUSAUSAUSA!!!!11

Moving the goalposts….

278 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 7:59:28am

re: #267 Lidane

These idiots don’t understand how employer provided health insurance works, do they?

It makes you wonder if these people ever held down a job, and if they did, ever got sick. Anyone worker with half a brain knows how employer provided health insurance works. You have to pick a plan. You agree to have money deducted from your pay to cover premiums. You end up paying co-pays out of pocket.

Challenge them on this point, because if they have been employed, either they got shit benefits (or none at all), or they’re speaking out of total ignorance of how the world works.

280 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 8:00:57am

re: #279 lawhawk

The Bulls Win… The Bulls Win.

Author of How to Survive the Bulls of Pamplona is gored during the day’s running of the bulls.

Who says bulls have no sense of humor?

281 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 8:02:12am

re: #269 Pie-onist Overlord

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In fact, what the Hobby Lobby is going to make happen is the government to provide what the company is denying.

This is what the general ‘conservative’ mindset overlooks: People in need remain in need if you deny them that need. People who need birth control, people who need housing, food, jobs, they don’t just disappear if you don’t address their needs. One way or another, it has to get addressed.

282 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:03:28am

One of my AA friends had to sign a statement verifying that her child was HER CHILD in order to get her mortgage.

Her lawyer advised she just sign it to facilitate the closing. This was 20 years ago.

283 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:03:48am

re: #275 FemNaziBitch

That one has an interesting bio on her twitter nic.

Crunchy little wingnut.

284 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 8:04:09am

Benghazi!!!1 Never 4ge….hurr hurr SecureTheBorder Send ‘em Back Home!! Impeach!!11 USAUSUAUSUAUAUA

285 Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2014 8:04:57am

re: #281 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

In fact, what the Hobby Lobby is going to make happen is the government to provide what the company is denying.

This is what the general ‘conservative’ mindset overlooks: People in need remain in need if you deny them that need. People who need birth control, people who need housing, food, jobs, they don’t just disappear if you don’t address their needs. One way or another, it has to get addressed.

Which is why, in the near future, I expect that there will be movement in the GOP to push a bill denying taxpayer dollars for birth control. Why? “Religious freedom.”

286 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 8:06:16am

re: #281 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

In fact, what the Hobby Lobby is going to make happen is the government to provide what the company is denying.

This is what the general ‘conservative’ mindset overlooks: People in need remain in need if you deny them that need. People who need birth control, people who need housing, food, jobs, they don’t just disappear if you don’t address their needs. One way or another, it has to get addressed.

They also overlook the old saw, “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” They whine about all the money spent on social programs, without stopping to calculate what future problems those programs might prevent.

I would argue this same mindset has infected American corporate culture for decades.

287 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:06:41am

re: #278 wheat-dogghazi

It makes you wonder if these people ever held down a job, and if they did, ever got sick. Anyone worker with half a brain knows how employer provided health insurance works. You have to pick a plan. You agree to have money deducted from your pay to cover premiums. You end up paying co-pays out of pocket.

Challenge them on this point, because if they have been employed, either they got shit benefits (or none at all), or they’re speaking out of total ignorance of how the world works.

HURR HURR I AM TEH JRRB CREEYATER!!!!!! IN MY BIDNESS I GIVE MY WORKERS TEH PAYS & TEH HEALTHCARES OUT OF TEH GOODNESS OF MY CHRISTIAN HEART!!!!!! THEY SHOULD ALLS BE WORKIN FOR NO PAY TEH WORTHLESS LAZY MOOCHERS THEY ARE TAKIN AWAY MY BOTTOM LINE!!!!!! I SHOULD REPLACE ‘EM ALL WITH MACHINES!!!!

288 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 8:07:05am

re: #275 FemNaziBitch

That one has an interesting bio on her twitter nic.

Holy crap, she covers all the craziness, doesn’t she? : )

“God, Family & Country; Patriot, Sports Fitness & Vegan; Psychotherapist, Relationship Counselor & Fixer; Fight 4 Wrongfully Convicted & Animals #2A #NRA #TCOT,”

Anyone who sees this idiot for psychotherapy is treading on very thin ice.

289 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:07:17am
290 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:08:02am

LOLWHUT

291 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:08:58am

re: #288 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap, she covers all the craziness, doesn’t she? : )

“God, Family & Country; Patriot, Sports Fitness & Vegan; Psychotherapist, Relationship Counselor & Fixer; Fight 4 Wrongfully Convicted & Animals #2A #NRA #TCOT,”

Anyone who sees this idiot for psychotherapy is treading on very thin ice.

I’ve had a hard time pinning down the exact credentials necessary to use the term “Psychotherapist”. I understand Psychologist, and Psychiatrist, but Psychotherapist seems just a little snake oil-ish to me.

292 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:09:36am

re: #291 FemNaziBitch

I’ve had a hard time pinning down the exact credentials necessary to use the term “Psychotherapist”. I understand Psychologist, and Psychiatrist, but Psychotherapist seems just a little snake oilish to me.

There is a space missing between “Psycho” and “Therapist”

293 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 8:10:45am

re:
#290

Hurr hurr slutz pills mandate canceled employee contract employment confirmed. FACT.

294 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:12:26am

re: #290 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWHUT

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And what about the whole Stem Cell controversy.

Are they going to approve some Stem Cell treatments and not others? HIV and AIDS treatment, is it going to depend on how the patient/employee contracted the disease?

More and More I am reminded of this book (recommended by a Lizard). Money (power) and Religion (morality) are confused in the mind of so many.

295 piratedan  Jul 9, 2014 8:12:52am

re: #290 Pie-onist Overlord

who knew that Hobby Lobby was a union shop… oh yeah, they aren’t.

296 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:16:32am

Why do so many have the secular world and it’s laws confused with the non-secular (mythology) and it’s laws?

Oh, I forgot, the Powerful controlling the less Powerful.

297 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 8:17:48am

Morning fellow Lizards, counting down the hours until I leave for King’s Canyon for my annual camping/fishing/drinking trip.

298 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 8:18:29am
299 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:19:07am

Eric misspelled “Treasonous thieving shitweasel”

300 Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2014 8:20:36am

re: #295 piratedan

who knew that Hobby Lobby was a union shop… or yeah, they aren’t.

To wingnuts, any way that your boss chooses to fuck you over is with your approval because you took the job. Even shit that wasn’t an issue when you joined, but becomes such after you’ve started working there, is with your approval because you took the job.

301 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 8:21:20am

re:
#298

Hurr hurr why Obamu not at border securing are border??!??!?!?!

302 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 8:23:13am

re: #216 Bulworth

Well, good news for my feline overlord with the intestinal blockage. They operated on him yesterday and removed the hair ball and he is apparently recovering quickly from the surgery. Might pick him up tonight.

Glad to here that the Feline Overlord is recovering.

One of my Siamese once had the lethargic “sick kitty” look and I took him to a clinic on the weekend since the regular vet was closed. Turned out that he’d been outside and eaten a load of dry grass (it was winter). He didn’t immediately hack it up like they usually do - so it got into his gut, absorbed water, and expanded his gut to the point it shoved a bunch of internal organs to the side. (It was an interesting x-ray.)

No operation - the vet at the clinic gave him an enema. Which cleared him out over the next couple of hours and he was back to normal within 24 hours.

And the vet also told me the cat had asthma. (Undiagnosed by the regular vet - and I took the hacking attacks for being hairballs.) So the cat became a seasonal consumer of small amounts of prednisone.

303 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:23:14am

re: #300 Targetpractice

To wingnuts, any way that your boss chooses to fuck you over is with your approval because you took the job. Even shit that wasn’t an issue when you joined, but becomes such after you’ve started working there, is with your approval because you took the job.

HURR HURR QUIT & GET ANOTHER JRRB!!!!!!

304 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 8:24:30am

The Intercept’s Grand Finale

305 Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2014 8:24:43am

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR QUIT & GET ANOTHER JRRB!!!!!!

The mating call of dipshits who’ve held the same job for 20+ years, if not already retired, but believe that getting a new job is as simple as walking in the door and asking for an application. After all, it worked when they were kids, so obviously it holds true today.

306 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 8:24:54am

re: #299 Pie-onist Overlord

Eric misspelled “Treasonous thieving shitweasel”

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Big surprise. /

I hope he rots in Russia.

307 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 8:25:13am

re: #300 Targetpractice

To wingnuts, any way that your boss chooses to fuck you over is with your approval because you took the job. Even shit that wasn’t an issue when you joined, but becomes such after you’ve started working there, is with your approval because you took the job.

Some people have never quite got over the end of feudalism. It’s like they revel at having a lord rule over every aspect of his workers’ lives.

308 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:25:17am

re: #300 Targetpractice

To wingnuts, any way that your boss chooses to fuck you over is with your approval because you took the job. Even shit that wasn’t an issue when you joined, but becomes such after you’ve started working there, is with your approval because you took the job.

In The Libertarian Utopia, every man has his own Sweatshop where he sets the rules for all workers, gives them pay & benefits out of the goodness of his heart, & if they don’t like it go somewhere else.

309 Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2014 8:26:16am

re: #291 FemNaziBitch

Prolly like a drug and alcohol rehab counselor. They can be a dime a dozen I. E., “I’ve been sober for 6 months. I’m now recovered and an expert in mental illness and D&A recovery.” Get the picture? If you know Bill W. Like I know Bill W. You know the type.

310 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:26:19am

They all believe they will get to be the Sweatshop Owner, but never the desperate, starving worker.

311 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:27:53am

When white people are unemployed:
HURR HURR OBAMA TUUK ARE JRRBS!!!!!!!

When blah people are unemployed:
HURR HURR GET A JRRB U WORTHLESS LAZY MOOCHER!!!!!!!

312 Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2014 8:28:55am

re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord

They all believe they will get to be the Sweatshop Owner, but never the desperate, starving worker.

St. Rand of the Church of Galt told them in the sacred scripture Atlas Shrugged that every exceptional person can be a captain of industry and obscenely wealthy, but liberals are holding them down. None of the faithful ever question how, if everybody is equally capable of being one of the elite, there will be anybody to do the menial jobs. Because if they did, they’d have to acknowledge that they’re not the exceptional people that Ayn talked about, they’re the very “parasites” she raged against.

313 wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2014 8:29:40am

re: #297 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Morning fellow Lizards, counting down the hours until I leave for King’s Canyon for my annual camping/fishing/drinking trip.

Nice! My mom planned for her 60 birthday there, but there was an avalanche on the road in that wasn’t cleared yet (in June!) so we switched to Anza Borrego, where it was 102 F. I loved it. I was the only one. We switched again to the beach after a couple of days. That’s California.

It should be perfect in July. Do you always go around the same time?

314 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 8:31:02am

re: #270 FemNaziBitch

A nation doesn’t have morals any more than a corporation does.

It depends on the morals of the individual leaders and citizens of the nation in question. A leader can try to make a nation (or corporation) act like a moral individual would. And moral citizens can pressure the nation (or corporations) to act that way via the choices and actions they are legally allowed to take - voting, where they purchase things, and being activists.

315 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 8:31:17am
316 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 8:32:24am

re: #309 Dave In Austin

Prolly like a drug and alcohol rehab counselor. They can be a dime a dozen I. E., “I’ve been sober for 6 months. I’m now recovered and an expert in mental illness and D&A recovery.” Get the picture? If you know Bill W. Like I know Bill W. You know the type.

Except peer counseling sometimes works very well if you have a sponsor/friend to get you over the hump, so to speak, if that person has actually been successful.

That said, it doesn’t mean they’re experts; a lot of them become dependent upon religion, but—whatever keeps them straight and healthier, I suppose.

317 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 8:32:31am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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318 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 9, 2014 8:32:41am

re: #123 Lidane

*headdesk*

Iowa GOPer: ‘Dictator’ Obama’s ‘Impeachment’ Should Be An Option

God, this sort of rhetoric pisses me off. NO ONE in this country knows what it’s like to live under a dictator unless they defected from or fled an actual tyranny.

I work with a couple of guys who each have more wingnut bumper stickers than teeth (all the Obama-is-Hitler, don’t-tread-on-me, etc bullshit you’re used to seeing), and I also have other co-workers who came from cheerful places including Russia, Bulgaria, Romania, Vietnam, Cambodia, Iran, Cuba, and El Salvador, all of whom presumably know a little something about what it’s like to live in a real dictatorship. Luckily, there’s a fairly well-observed unwritten rule against talking religion and politics at work, but I would really enjoy hearing the wingnuts explain to the rest of the office how life under the current incarnation of the US government is comparable to life under the Soviets, Castro, Pol Pot, the Mullahs, and whatever military junta-of-the-week. I’m sure it would prove very enlightening.

319 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:32:57am

re: #309 Dave In Austin

Prolly like a drug and alcohol rehab counselor. They can be a dime a dozen I. E., “I’ve been sober for 6 months. I’m now recovered and an expert in mental illness and D&A recovery.” Get the picture? If you know Bill W. Like I know Bill W. You know the type.

yeah

320 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 8:33:25am

Here’s video of the Israeli practice of “Roof Knocking” to minimize civilian casualties and the Hamas tactic of human shields to increase civilian casualties.
DF Avoids Civilians Casualties in Gaza, Hamas Increases Them
Youtube Video

321 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 8:33:43am

re: #297 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Morning fellow Lizards, counting down the hours until I leave for King’s Canyon for my annual camping/fishing/drinking trip.

Never been in there. But I looked down into it from Sequoia and it looks like a nice place.

322 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:33:49am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What is the symbolism of the rabbit?

323 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 8:34:28am

re: #322 FemNaziBitch

What is the symbolism of the rabbit?

No idea, but rabbits show up a lot in medieval manuscripts.

324 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 8:34:30am

re: #313 wrenchwench

It should be perfect in July. Do you always go around the same time?

Last year we went in mid-June, had to go later this year. I had been a few times before several years ago and was bragging to my fishing buddies about the trout fishing up there and we finally arranged the first trip last year. So now it’s an annual thing. I love it up there and am so looking forward to getting away from civilization for a few days.

325 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 8:34:35am

re: #320 Killgore Trout

Here’s video of the Israeli practice of “Roof Knocking” to minimize civilian casualties and the Hamas tactic of human shields to increase civilian casualties.
DF Avoids Civilians Casualties in Gaza, Hamas Increases Them
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That’s a lot of people.

326 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:34:46am

re: #316 Justanotherhuman

Except peer counseling sometimes works very well if you have a sponsor/friend to get you over the hump, so to speak, if that person has actually been successful.

That said, it doesn’t mean they’re experts; a lot of them become dependent upon religion, but—whatever keeps them straight and healthier, I suppose.

A lot of addicts transfer their addiction to Jesus. It’s not recovery, it’s just another addiction.

Like golf, shoppping, eating and other common transfer addictions. It’s not any healthier.

327 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:35:36am

The only thing I can think of regarding rabbits is uncontrolled sex and breeding.

How does that work with religious symbolism?

328 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 8:36:03am

re: #268 piratedan

they have the same grasp on that subject as they do about what the Constitution actually says, the three branches of the government and general economic theory.

It’s all Obama’s fault dontcha know!

329 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:36:27am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Secret Service guys don’t seem very amused.

Just registered this from the top.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an amused SS agent.

330 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 8:36:31am

re: #321 Feline Fearless Leader

Never been in there. But I looked down into it from Sequoia and it looks like a nice place.

This time of year the Cedar grove campsites are open. Nicely shaded, in a cedar grove and close to the river. Having been there and to Yosemite I will take King’s Canyon any day.

331 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 8:36:33am

re:
#302

Yeah I probably should have asked why they couldn’t flush it out. I think because they weren’t sure what it was, whether it was a growth or something.

332 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 8:38:24am

here are photos from last year’s trip

333 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 8:39:00am

WHY does anyone listen to this asshole?

334 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 9, 2014 8:39:11am

re: #308 Pie-onist Overlord

In The Libertarian Utopia, every man has his own Sweatshop where he sets the rules for all workers, gives them pay & benefits out of the goodness of his heart, & if they don’t like it go somewhere else.

In the Calvinist utopia, we all work for the Glory of God and to keep our Souls Free of Sin, and anything that our employer pays us is a Gift from God that We Do Not Really Deserve.

335 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 8:39:54am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

No idea, but rabbits show up a lot in medieval manuscripts.

This might explain it more clearly.

The Adventures of Medieval Bunny, Part I: The Killer Rabbit

sexycodicology.net

336 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 8:40:19am

*headdesk*

337 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 8:40:29am

Sally Kohn doing yeoman’s work trying to get wingnuts to say how, exactly, the arrival of child immigrants is a crisis of border security. Since the border patrol is catching or receiving them.

SendemBack!!!1 UAAUSUSUSUSUSUUSUUUSUSus

338 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 8:41:19am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bring me the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

339 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 8:41:50am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

No idea, but rabbits show up a lot in medieval manuscripts.

Fairly common food source. Including specifically setting up areas for them to live in so that they could be harvested.

340 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:42:45am

re: #336 Lidane

*headdesk*

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paged, also awarded DOOFUS OF THE DAY

341 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2014 8:43:08am

re: #251 Lidane

The League City council passed a resolution on Tuesday night to ban undocumented children from entering the municipality.

League City Council Member Heidi Thiess drafted the measure, which declines to accept federal requests to operate detention or processing centers in the city. “Health and safety” concerns were cited among the reasons for the proposed ordinance.

Because a bunch of scared and hungry 6 year olds would totally start tearing up the city and spreading disease.

342 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:43:29am

re: #339 Feline Fearless Leader

Fairly common food source. Including specifically setting up areas for them to live in so that they could be harvested.

Hassenpfeffer?

343 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:43:55am

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

Because a bunch of scared and hungry 6 year olds would totally start tearing up the city and spreading disease.

They have different germs than us

344 FemNaziBitch  Jul 9, 2014 8:44:01am

bbl

345 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 9, 2014 8:44:03am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

Hassenpfeffer?

Welsh rabbit?

346 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 8:44:06am

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

Because a bunch of scared and hungry 6 year olds would totally start tearing up the city and spreading disease.

THEY’RE COVERED IN LICE! DISEASED MONGRELS! ELEVENTY!

347 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 8:44:13am

re: #330 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’ve now been to both Kings Canyon and Yosemite, and there’s something to be said for going in off-peak periods. Fewer crowds. Kings Canyon doesn’t get the crowds of Yosemite, even during peak periods, so I can see why that’d be a better choice.

When we visited Sequoia and Kings Canyon, the Kings Canyon road was still closed for the winter, so we couldn’t get out to the further reaches. Still pretty imposing and impressive to view.

348 Ryan King  Jul 9, 2014 8:44:22am

Remember this?

Two Young, Gun-Wielding Mothers Appear Side-by-Side on Twitter
Fanaticism, dressed in similar symbols, but in different contexts
By wheat-dogghazi

Fox News goes for a Level 7 Flip of the Narrative:
OUTRAGEOUS
Mom Viciously Attacked Online for Photo With Flag, Gun & Bible

Yes, it’s a total orgy of victimood and Christian Conservative grievance.

349 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 8:46:22am

re: #348 Ryan King

Yes, it’s a total orgy of victimood and Christian Conservative grievance.

Fuck ‘em. It’s about damn time that someone pointed out the similarities between the RWNJs and other extremists.

350 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2014 8:46:46am

Sears, Amazon and Wal-Mart go on the defensive after Concentration Camp Gate poster shows up for sale online

The poster came with a description calling it a “generic Gate with inscription Arbeit Macht Frei, Dachau Concentration Camp, Dachau, Upper Bavaria, Bavaria, Germany Poster Print by Pa.”

This is why you have to keep a tight watch on “3rd party sellers”.

351 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 8:47:07am

re: #326 FemNaziBitch

A lot of addicts transfer their addiction to Jesus. It’s not recovery, it’s just another addiction.

Like golf, shoppping, eating and other common transfer addictions. It’s not any healthier.

Yes, I realize that. Society doesn’t exactly encourage well-rounded individuals so that we develop into thinking, creative beings who are valuable in our own right, and the push to commercialize every aspect of our lives doesn’t do anything to help that. The push to be “popular” rather than to develop our intellect during our school years is a great shame as well because it goes right along with the commercialization aspect. We are constantly having to “sell ourselves”. Any tiny bit of eccentric behavior is seen as “having something wrong” with us.

And when you don’t measure up to the expectations of others, it really does fuck with your head.

352 Gus  Jul 9, 2014 8:47:35am

Sad clown face.

353 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 8:48:14am

Much crashing noise coming from a storage area in the kitchen.
Apparently a mouse hunt is getting serious…

354 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 8:48:49am

re:
#352

The Center for American Progress is obviously part of the NSA surveilance caliphate.

355 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2014 8:49:02am

re: #348 Ryan King

That’s exactly what I said would probably happen. From a comment I made two days ago:

Let me guess: The nut jobs are saying Hollys picture is ok because she has the right book in her hand?

356 EmmaAnne  Jul 9, 2014 8:49:23am

re: #326 FemNaziBitch

A lot of addicts transfer their addiction to Jesus. It’s not recovery, it’s just another addiction.

I’ve got to argue with you there. We’ve got a lot of them in my family, and the God addiction may not be very healthy or fun to be around, but it is a hell of a lot healthier (and fun to be around) than the drinking.

357 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 8:50:30am
358 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 8:50:33am

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s exactly what I said would probably happen. From a comment I made two days ago:

HURR HURR SHE’S DEFENDING HERSELF AGAINST TEH MUSLINS WHICH INCLUDES TEH KENYAN IMPOSTER IN TEH WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

That said, there were a lot of sexist attacks on Holly that were just as bad as anything sent to Sandra Fluke or Amanda Marcotte.

359 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 9, 2014 8:52:03am

Malaysian MP hails German World Cup win by praising Hitler

On Tuesday, Germany demolished the host nation Brazil in a 7-1 World Cup win that will go down in history. It was an astonishing victory for the Germans, and an epically humiliating loss for the Brazilians. For observers, it was at the very least remarkable.

After the game, Malaysian MP Bung Mokhtar Radin, a member of the dominant United Malays National Organization, decided to tweet to congratulate Germany.

He did so by congratulating Hitler.


360 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 8:53:55am

re: #347 lawhawk

Yeah it is one heckuva view from the top. Down in the canyon is just amazing. When we went it was a full moon so at night the rocks walls were just lit up. Then there are some of the cliffs that literally jut up from one side of the river. You can’t even cross without hitting a wall in some spots. It is an awesome place from above and from down inside.

361 Ryan King  Jul 9, 2014 8:54:00am

re: #358 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR SHE’S DEFENDING HERSELF AGAINST TEH MUSLINS WHICH INCLUDES TEH KENYAN IMPOSTER IN TEH WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

That said, there were a lot of sexist attacks on Holly that were just as bad as anything sent to Sandra Fluke or Amanda Marcotte.

That is abhorrent, always is and always will be.

362 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 8:54:24am

re: #358 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR SHE’S DEFENDING HERSELF AGAINST TEH MUSLINS WHICH INCLUDES TEH KENYAN IMPOSTER IN TEH WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

That said, there were a lot of sexist attacks on Holly that were just as bad as anything sent to Sandra Fluke or Amanda Marcotte.

I’m not going to say there weren’t any liberals who did that, at least not thinking ones, but I’d bet the majority were set ups.

363 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 8:55:23am

re: #197 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

So I’ve been brushing up on my math in order to take more advanced statistics courses, and I’ve got to say, Khan academy is really cool. I highly recommend people check them out if they want to shore up a forgotten skill or learn something new.

And I now know trigonometry again. Slightly less cool than kung-fu, but overall more useful.

Will you have calculus?

364 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 9, 2014 8:57:30am

re: #348 Ryan King

Fox News tagline under their photos: “Mom attacked online for conservative values.” If you stop and think, it could apply to either woman. Not that Fox News fans would stop and think about anything.

The personal attacks on Fisher and her kids are despicable, but the general disgust with her willful ignorance and cluelessness is spot-on.

I hope she enjoys her fame (or infamy), and the pushback she’s going to get if she continues with this God, guns and flag propaganda.

365 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 8:58:46am
366 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 8:59:47am

re: #359 NJDhockeyfan

What is it with Malaysian politicians? Mahathir Mohammad, now this…

367 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 9:00:55am
368 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:03:04am

This is a typical acct which tries to bomb HHL.

twitter.com

369 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:03:59am

Nebraska Supreme Court to announce it will hear oral arguments in the case over the Keystone XL pipeline’s route in early September, effectively postponing any final federal decision on the controversial project until after the midterm elections - @washingtonpost
Read more on washingtonpost.com

370 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 9:06:01am

re: #360 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That’s one of the reasons I love Zion and Bryce so much - you can view the canyons from all angles, and the scenery is straight out of a Dr. Seuss book (though Arches has that up to 11ty).

As for night shots, if you’re in Yosemite, you’ve got to get nighttime Valley shots from Tunnel View. It’s absolutely spectacular, though I didn’t try to do that from the Valley floor (I’ve seen some photographers catching moonbows at Bridal Veil or Yosemite Falls)

371 Gus  Jul 9, 2014 9:06:19am
372 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 9:06:58am

re:
#365

Yeah that guy is so persecuted, can’t speak anywhere anytime he wants, can’t get a job anywhere or earn income, has to live off the streets….

/

373 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 9, 2014 9:07:08am

I had coffee with a friend last night, and we got talking about the logical implications from the Hobby Lobby decision. One that is the next logical step, since the HL Owners don’t object to ALL forms of birth control, but only to some for religious reasons. (not rooted in the science).

The Catholic Church teaches, and devout Catholics believe that ALL forms of birth control is a sin. What happens the first time that a company (not a true ‘religious organization’) that is owned by Catholics says “We can’t cover ANY form of BC, since our beliefs hold it to be a sin”.

I know that this is sitting right around the corner, getting ready to raise its ugly head.

RBS

374 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 9:08:10am

re: #370 lawhawk

That’s one of the reasons I love Zion and Bryce so much - you can view the canyons from all angles, and the scenery is straight out of a Dr. Seuss book (though Arches has that up to 11ty).

As for night shots, if you’re in Yosemite, you’ve got to get nighttime Valley shots from Tunnel View. It’s absolutely spectacular, though I didn’t try to do that from the Valley floor (I’ve seen some photographers catching moonbows at Bridal Veil or Yosemite Falls)

When the wife and I went to vegas to use our timeshare for a week we did the drive from Vegas to Zion and it was gorgeous. Really want to go back there and spend a few days there.

375 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:09:12am

re: #348 Ryan King

Remember this?

Two Young, Gun-Wielding Mothers Appear Side-by-Side on Twitter
Fanaticism, dressed in similar symbols, but in different contexts
By wheat-dogghazi

Fox News goes for a Level 7 Flip of the Narrative:
OUTRAGEOUS
Mom Viciously Attacked Online for Photo With Flag, Gun & Bible

Yes, it’s a total orgy of victimood and Christian Conservative grievance.

How much did they pay her for her appearance so they could flog that meme?

Of course, callling every asshat who tweeted some sexist, piggish remark about her or her kids is a “liberal”.

You see what the RW is doing here?

376 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 9:09:22am

re: #368 Justanotherhuman

This is a typical acct which tries to bomb HHL.

twitter.com

Has that acct sent anything to Sandra Fluke, Jessica Valenti, Imani Gandy or Amanda Marcotte? That would make it an equal opportunity asshole.

377 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 9:12:23am

re: #373 RealityBasedSteve

It’s already a court case. SCOTUS has even ordered that the lower courts look at it again in light of the HL case:

usatoday.com

378 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 9:13:18am
Brazil Fans Start Obscene Chant Toward Female President During World Cup Loss

washington.cbslocal.com

WASHINGTON (CBSDC) - During the 7-1 loss in the World Cup semifinals against Germany, Brazil soccer fans became so outraged with the score that they began chanting “Ei, Dilma, vai tomar no cu,” which translates to: “Hey, Dilma, go f*** yourself in the a**!”

Brazilian fans are angry with President Dilma Rousseff, for allowing the government to spend more than $11 billion dollars to host the 2014 FIFA World Cup. Fans began chanting around the 40th minute of the match that became the worst defeat since Brazil’s 1950 World Cup loss to Uruguay.

379 b_sharp  Jul 9, 2014 9:15:49am

I think Charles needs to be slapped for that bad pun.

“Neigh sayers”

Harumph

380 wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2014 9:16:13am

re: #373 RealityBasedSteve

I had coffee with a friend last night, and we got talking about the logical implications from the Hobby Lobby decision. One that is the next logical step, since the HL Owners don’t object to ALL forms of birth control, but only to some for religious reasons. (not rooted in the science).

The Catholic Church teaches, and devout Catholics believe that ALL forms of birth control is a sin. What happens the first time that a company (not a true ‘religious organization’) that is owned by Catholics says “We can’t cover ANY form of BC, since our beliefs hold it to be a sin”.

I know that this is sitting right around the corner, getting ready to raise its ugly head.

RBS

There’s an older, bigger problem that predates the Hobby Lobby case. Catholic hospitals. My sister had an ectopic pregnancy removed in a Catholic hospital many years ago. I don’t think they can be counted on to do that sort of thing any more. A few years ago, a hospital administrator got excommunicated in Arizona for serving on an ethics committee that approved an abortion to save a woman’s life.

381 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 9:16:16am
382 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:18:35am

re: #376 Pie-onist Overlord

Has that acct sent anything to Sandra Fluke, Jessica Valenti, Imani Gandy or Amanda Marcotte? That would make it an equal opportunity asshole.

Probably some 15 yr old who did tweet this (and I don’t care to spend much time at its acct).

383 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 9:19:15am

LOL wingnut meme fail, look at the background flag

384 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 9:19:41am
385 Varek Raith  Jul 9, 2014 9:22:05am

re: #384 Lidane

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No, Brian, what’s almost treason is that my coffee cup is empty.

386 sagehen  Jul 9, 2014 9:22:11am

re: #365 Lidane

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Every time Slacktivist writes about Tony Perkins, he uses the full title The Liar Tony Perkins. Every couple of weeks there’s another post about what The Liar Tony Perkins has said today.

387 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 9:25:45am

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

Heh. The Union Jack. For the United Kingdom. They probably thought it was the Stars and Bars and figured it was close enough.

388 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 9:27:51am

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

389 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 9:28:28am
390 iossarian  Jul 9, 2014 9:30:36am

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL wingnut meme fail, look at the background flag

“Is that you, Benedict Arnold?”

391 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 9:30:43am

re: #388 lawhawk

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hahaha

392 Stanley Sea  Jul 9, 2014 9:31:04am

re: #388 lawhawk

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Y’all lost her with UK and Union Jack.

393 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 9:31:06am

re:
#383

I guess she got if from the EDL or whatever the anti-immigrant group over there is.

394 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 9:31:09am

re: #387 lawhawk

Heh. The Union Jack. For the United Kingdom. They probably thought it was the Stars and Bars and figured it was close enough.

Secure our borders mate!

395 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 9:31:47am
396 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 9:32:03am

Why do these new “volunteers” from Russia look like a bunch of degenerates?

397 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 9:32:22am

re: #388 lawhawk

Funny, but confusing the Union Jack with the US Flag would mean you’d get questions wrong on the citizenship test for becoming a naturalized citizen (questions can and have asked about the meaning of the 13 stripes, 50 stars, etc.)

398 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 9:32:48am

So the Brits are trying to copy Are grate Flag! BAsterds!

399 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:33:18am

Retweeted by GG. The short piece doesn’t give specifics: “The report clearly documents how biased training by the FBI leads to biased surveillance.” And wasn’t that during the Bush admin? And then goes on to question the Obama admin: “Nearly three years ago, the Obama administration pledged to purge bigoted training materials from federal agencies. This report clearly calls into question whether that commitment has been fulfilled and the urgent need for re-training of law enforcement officials.”

Nothing—nothing—this President does will ever please everyone, esp those who criticize him the most.

Several people have tweeted this to GG who has retweeted them.

400 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:34:16am

re: #395 Lidane

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He would be president any way he could.

401 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 9:34:30am

THEY’RE TOTALLY GOING TO IGNORE OUR DEMONIZING A BUNCH OF SCARED KIDS, GUYS!

402 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 9:34:44am

re: #396 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Why do these new “volunteers” from Russia look like a bunch of degenerates?

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Yeesh. Honestly, those guys look creepy.

Like sex-offender/kiddie porn aficionado level creepy.

403 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 9:36:00am
404 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 9:36:03am

re: #402 Dr Lizardo

Like “Hollywood Russian” creepy ;)

405 dog philosopher  Jul 9, 2014 9:36:03am

new frontiers in dumb

Let us consider the Hallmarks of the Great Man’s Reign:
- Direct election of Senators, severing the States control of DC
- The Federal Reserve, which has debased the currency to pennies on the dollar
- The Income Tax, which is has become oppressive, incomprehensible
The country is swirling in the Toilet Bowl of Doom because of Woody Wilson.

extra credit for detecting the dates that these measures passed congress

406 iossarian  Jul 9, 2014 9:36:13am

re: #401 Lidane

THEY’RE TOTALLY GOING TO IGNORE OUR DEMONIZING A BUNCH OF SCARED KIDS, GUYS!

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Lol. He’ll stick to his story right up to Texas going Blue in 2020.

What a dumbass.

407 dog philosopher  Jul 9, 2014 9:37:32am

re: #401 Lidane

Louie Gohmert says Latinos will vote Republican because they are hard workers and believe in God

st ronald the imperfectly educated tried this one back in the last century

408 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 9, 2014 9:39:31am

re: #377 Lidane

It’s already a court case. SCOTUS has even ordered that the lower courts look at it again in light of the HL case:

usatoday.com

Thank you… I wonder if I had read about that earlier, and was subconsciously referring to that case. In any case, it’s the exact situation that I’m afraid will become pervasive. I find it interesting that they don’t fund anti-smoking and weight loss drugs either. I would imagine that any cost/benefit analysis would show that they are MORE than cost effective in preventing future larger (and long term) claims.

RBS

409 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 9:39:53am

re: #404 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Like “Hollywood Russian” creepy ;)

Yep….right out of central casting.

410 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 9:40:45am
411 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 9:41:01am

re: #399 Justanotherhuman

Retweeted by GG. The short piece doesn’t give specifics: “The report clearly documents how biased training by the FBI leads to biased surveillance.” And wasn’t that during the Bush admin? And then goes on to question the Obama admin: “Nearly three years ago, the Obama administration pledged to purge bigoted training materials from federal agencies. This report clearly calls into question whether that commitment has been fulfilled and the urgent need for re-training of law enforcement officials.”

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Nothing—nothing—this President does will ever please everyone, esp those who criticize him the most.

Several people have tweeted this to GG who has retweeted them.

Uh oh, not a sternly worded press release!!!

412 b_sharp  Jul 9, 2014 9:42:40am

I’m a bit concerned that if GG ever visits LGF he’ll notice that we have a ‘Spy’ button.

It could put LGF on his hit list.

413 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 9:42:44am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

Hassenpfeffer?

The coney-garth.

en.wikipedia.org

And the fact that some compared the rabbits’ social structures to monasteries might be one reason they get adopted into manuscript illuminations as well.

414 The War TARDIS  Jul 9, 2014 9:42:46am

re: #399 Justanotherhuman

I have never even heard of this organization before.

415 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 9:43:22am

re:
#403

GOP doesn’t care about governing, so no problem.

416 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 9:45:37am
417 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 9:46:30am

re: #414 The War TARDIS

I have never even heard of this organization before.

They seem to be the only website on the planet that publishes something less frequently than The Intercept.

Recent Posts

Statement on Report by Glenn Greenwald on NSA Spying
July 8, 2014

Muslim Advocates Statement on Profiling
June 25, 2014

Civil Rights Lawyers Condemn New NYPD Muslim Spying Revelations
May 12, 2014

418 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 9:47:12am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

Much crashing noise coming from a storage area in the kitchen.
Apparently a mouse hunt is getting serious…

When I hear that stuff it’s the tuxedo Feline Overlord expressing unhappiness with the quantity or quality of kibble in the bowl by knocking the kibble holder (tupperware), watering can (empty), and any small empty boxes being saved for recycling off the counter.

The moment I get up (or appear from another room) she jumps down since she knows she should not be on the kitchen counter. But she has also succeeded in drawing me forth to be complained to directly.

Chat Noir Feline Overlord occasionally gets bombed from above since he goes over to examine the initial object knocked off the counter - and the second and third item fall in his general vicinity. (I am careful about sharps and heavy objects being placed in that area for that reason.)

419 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 9:48:20am

re: #333 Lidane

WHY does anyone listen to this asshole?

[Fox ‘s Keith Ablow: LGBT rights will lead to ‘three humans and a dog ’ marriage rawstory.com …]

Would he be working anywhere else but FOX News doing what he is doing?

Only FOX gives misfits like this jobs because they are willing and ready to say anything. I sometimes wonder if they are just people with titles and FOX pays them to say crazy crap off a script to feed the needy FOX nutty audience.

420 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 9:49:54am

re:
#412

Oh great, the next big “scoop” at the Interupt. Or the Intercept. Whatever.

421 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 9:50:28am

re: #370 lawhawk

That’s one of the reasons I love Zion and Bryce so much - you can view the canyons from all angles, and the scenery is straight out of a Dr. Seuss book (though Arches has that up to 11ty).

As for night shots, if you’re in Yosemite, you’ve got to get nighttime Valley shots from Tunnel View. It’s absolutely spectacular, though I didn’t try to do that from the Valley floor (I’ve seen some photographers catching moonbows at Bridal Veil or Yosemite Falls)

Tunnel View is pretty much the iconic shooting locale for Yosemite. There is a nice overlook on the other end as you come over the pass as well. You get a view down that end of the valley to point where it turns at Half Dome.

I think I posted two Yosemite shots last year side-by-side where one was from each view.

422 wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2014 9:50:57am
423 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 9:51:30am

re: #333 Lidane

WHY does anyone listen to this asshole?

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I suppose it shows that Keith Ablow wants to marry three dogs.

424 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 9:51:57am

re: #422 wrenchwench

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Oh no! It’s almost like “Fidel Castro”! I knew Obama was a commie!/

425 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 9:53:58am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Julián Castro moves one step closer to the 2016 VP slot. I’m convinced that’s the long-term Democratic plan.

Castro gave the keynote at the 2012 DNC and up until Wendy Davis gave her filibuster I think they were grooming him to run for governor. Now he’s jumped to the Cabinet just in time for the next election. By the time 2016 rolls around he’ll have the executive experience of running a city and a federal post too.

426 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 9:54:46am

re: #414 The War TARDIS

I have never even heard of this organization before.

Probably cooked up by Dudebros™. /

427 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 9:55:40am

re: #420 Bulworth

re:
#412

Oh great, the next big “scoop” at the Interupt. Or the Intercept. Whatever.

The litter box has more scoops with more interesting content than The Intercept.

428 wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2014 9:56:15am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Doh. Didn’t see yours.

429 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 9:56:21am

re: #412 b_sharp

I’m a bit concerned that if GG ever visits LGF he’ll notice that we have a ‘Spy’ button.

It could put LGF on his hit list.

What makes you think LGF isn’t already on his “hit” list?

430 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 9, 2014 9:56:35am

re: #401 Lidane

THEY’RE TOTALLY GOING TO IGNORE OUR DEMONIZING A BUNCH OF SCARED KIDS, GUYS!

Louie Gohmert says Latinos will vote Republican because they are hard workers and believe in God]

There is a kernel of truth to that: the GOP could do a lot more to appeal to Latino voters, but in doing so, they would piss off their rabid base constituency.

431 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 9:57:03am

re: #429 Pie-onist Overlord

What makes you think LGF isn’t already on his “hit” list?

The native irrelevancy of Lizards? Pie discussions?
//

432 b_sharp  Jul 9, 2014 9:58:57am

re: #429 Pie-onist Overlord

What makes you think LGF isn’t already on his “hit” list?

Do you not recognize my superior sarcasm when you see it?

433 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 10:01:30am

re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is a kernel of truth to that: the GOP could do a lot more to appeal to Latino voters, but in doing so, they would piss off their rabid base constituency.

Oh sure. The GOP could do a lot to try and appeal to Latinos. Problem is, they have to also appeal to the same knuckle dragging INVADING BROWN HORDE! DISEASED MONGRELS! SHOOT OR DEPORT THEM ALL! Tea Party base. The GOP are never going to gain among Latinos as long as they have to whore themselves out to the racists to win.

434 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:01:43am

re: #432 b_sharp

Do you not recognize my superior sarcasm when you see it?

Did it get its hair cut recently, because that can throw people off?

435 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 10:02:34am

re: #427 Feline Fearless Leader

The litter box has more scoops with more interesting content than The Intercept.

If any of you Twitter folk want to use that one to needle GG, be my guest.

436 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 10:05:16am

heh…

437 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:05:20am

re: #399 Justanotherhuman

Retweeted by GG. The short piece doesn’t give specifics: “The report clearly documents how biased training by the FBI leads to biased surveillance.” And wasn’t that during the Bush admin? And then goes on to question the Obama admin: “Nearly three years ago, the Obama administration pledged to purge bigoted training materials from federal agencies. This report clearly calls into question whether that commitment has been fulfilled and the urgent need for re-training of law enforcement officials.”

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Nothing—nothing—this President does will ever please everyone, esp those who criticize him the most.

Several people have tweeted this to GG who has retweeted them.

Not surprising. I could have written that response myself.

438 b_sharp  Jul 9, 2014 10:06:59am

re: #434 Kragar

Did it get its hair cut recently, because that can throw people off?

Well, a little off the top.

439 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 9, 2014 10:08:52am

re: #433 Lidane

Oh sure. The GOP could do a lot to try and appeal to Latinos. Problem is, they have to also appeal to the same knuckle dragging … Tea Party base. The GOP are never going to gain among Latinos as long as they have to whore themselves out to the racists to win.

And they fail to understand that Latinos have a sense of community that goes beyond their front porch step: they want good schools and reliable public services, even if they cost cost money and do not support such a radical “cut all taxes and abolish government” approach.

And since they have seen locals frothing at the mouth and passing legislation against other Latinos, they have fewer reservations about appealing to the federal government.

440 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 10:10:30am

nbcnews.com

Radioactivity - and now cold/permafrost. I think they have a daikaiju buried down there now.

441 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:11:36am

Live cam, I think Gaza City
ustream.tv

Sunset

442 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 10:13:24am

Ucch I hate when people that I follow on Twitter, post Latuff cartoons.

443 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 10:14:34am

Bringing a bunch of guns into a bank, that’s real smart wingnuts.

444 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 10:15:40am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

What could possibly go wrong?

445 gwangung  Jul 9, 2014 10:15:44am

re: #439 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And they fail to understand that Latinos have a sense of community that goes beyond their front porch step: they want good schools and reliable public services, even if they cost cost money and do not support such a radical “cut all taxes and abolish government” approach.

And since they have seen locals frothing at the mouth and passing legislation against other Latinos, they have fewer reservations about appealing to the federal government.

Isn’t this also the case that many Latinos have come from countries where the government has shacked up with the rich overclass to screw the lower classes? Crony capitalism with ineffective government services?

Kinda hard to support a party that looks so similar to the crooks back home….

446 bubba zanetti  Jul 9, 2014 10:16:29am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing a bunch of guns into a bank, that’s real smart wingnuts.

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That’s trolling.

447 Gus  Jul 9, 2014 10:17:55am
448 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 10:18:13am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing a bunch of guns into a bank, that’s real smart wingnuts.

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449 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 9, 2014 10:18:41am

re: #81 Lidane

My brush with the Secret Service happened in 1992. I was a volunteer for the Clinton campaign and Bill had come to Houston to speak at a rally. I had my volunteer badge on and went for a rope fence to avoid the long line at the metal detector I’d already gone through. SS guy got right in my face until I showed the badge and was able to walk by.

My first encounter with the Secret Service was during the 1976 Carter Presidential campaign.

As Governor of Georgia, Carter had previously attended our Annual BBQ and Summer Games, so he was considered a friend of the company. And his presence was no big deal.

At the first meeting, the Secret Service agent seem uncomfortable with the idea of Carter mingling with some 3,000 music industry executives, talent, and Rock and Roll party goers (damn some of them smoke pot, and there will be food and open bars everywhere).

So we worked thru the laundry list of communication (dedicated phone lines), security (site survey, control areas where Carter will mingle, and area access badges, logistical (where what is), and medical facilities. The Secret Service did pay for enhancements they required for that event.

It was a good party (they all were). In addition to Carter, other non music industry notables were Andy Warhol, Don King, and Rusty Calley. (Calley was kept carefully separate from Carter, as Phil did not want any press photos of Calley and Carter together. Hunter S. Thompson bowed out at the last moment to our relief.

The press followed Carter around the site en-mass with camera motor drives clicking like a giant insect.

Still kicking myself for not getting a photograph of myself standing between Don King and Jimmy Carter.

(re-edit checked my time line)

450 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 10:18:43am

re: #373 RealityBasedSteve

I had coffee with a friend last night, and we got talking about the logical implications from the Hobby Lobby decision. One that is the next logical step, since the HL Owners don’t object to ALL forms of birth control, but only to some for religious reasons. (not rooted in the science).

The Catholic Church teaches, and devout Catholics believe that ALL forms of birth control is a sin. What happens the first time that a company (not a true ‘religious organization’) that is owned by Catholics says “We can’t cover ANY form of BC, since our beliefs hold it to be a sin”.

I know that this is sitting right around the corner, getting ready to raise its ugly head.

RBS

The church may say it, but many Catholic women and their male family and friends do not follow the rules of the church with regards to birth control and many other things.

Who knows, maybe all this is going to lead to a collision between dogma and reality. It is not like it is not needed.

And as we all know all too well, the churches own people have had some big problems following the dogma and doing everything right.

I always wondered as a Catholic myself, why do people say they ‘believe’ but do not follow the rules. Nothing of good for anyone in that.

451 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:19:06am
452 blueraven  Jul 9, 2014 10:19:19am

re: #389 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator


I just watched the entire video. So sad…the old people living in bombed out buildings with no windows, no food, electricity or water.

Also many people turning on each other. Pointing fingers; You supported the separatists! No, you did!

453 piratedan  Jul 9, 2014 10:20:12am

re: #447 Gus

when GOP folks do it, they’re called “speaking fees”, wonder how they manage their disdain when Caribou barbie has essentially been grifting the right for the last six years… oh that’s right, they let her write OpEd pieces.

454 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 10:21:31am

re:
#443

ALL CAPS!!!!!!

455 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:23:34am

re: #454 Bulworth

re:
#443

ALL CAPS!!!!!!

Serious business.

456 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 10:23:41am

Texas Republican candidate diagnoses the president with … ‘Münchausen syndrome by proxy’?

*facepalm*

And my parents are going to Texas, on purpose, for a vacation because my father thinks it’s the bestest place ever because of people like this.

457 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:23:53am

looks like parts of Gaza city are without power

458 bubba zanetti  Jul 9, 2014 10:24:38am

re: #451 Kragar

Is everyone’s troll radar down this morning? Check TL’s, people.

459 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 10:25:09am

re: #363 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Will you have calculus?

I will eventually obtain the calculus.

460 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:25:57am

re: #458 bubba zanetti

Is everyone’s troll radar down this morning? Check TL’s, people.

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Nevermind

461 Gus  Jul 9, 2014 10:26:37am

re: #458 bubba zanetti

Is everyone’s troll radar down this morning? Check TL’s, people.

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Yeah, she’s a lefty troll and also blocked.

462 Gus  Jul 9, 2014 10:27:19am

That’s also not her in the avi.

463 J A P  Jul 9, 2014 10:27:44am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

They don’t want a modern society.

464 KerFuFFler  Jul 9, 2014 10:28:05am

re: #450 ObserverArt

I always wondered as a Catholic myself, why do people say they ‘believe’ but do not follow the rules. Nothing of good for anyone in that.

My sister was engaged a long time ago to a Catholic. I asked her if they were planning of using birth control and she was like, “of course!” So then I asked what it meant for her to be planning on converting while at the same time planning to not follow church doctrine——-essentially would she consider that a true conversion? “Of course! I’d be Catholic, but I’d just be sinning.”

465 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:28:09am

Funny conversation on the Gaza Cam. An American lady and a Kenyan guy talking about Boris.

466 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:28:18am

re: #459 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I will eventually obtain the calculus.

Its weird, but I always had a really tough time with Algebra, but when I got to trig and calculus, it all made sense and I did great.

And then I never touched either since high school.

467 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 10:28:20am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing a bunch of guns into a bank, that’s real smart wingnuts.

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lolwut?!

The stupid, it burns.

468 wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2014 10:28:21am

re: #462 Gus

That’s also not her in the avi.

She’s not Debby Harry?

469 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 10:30:02am

re: #466 Kragar

Its weird, but I always had a really tough time with Algebra, but when I got to trig and calculus, it all made sense and I did great.

And then I never touched either since high school.

I’m probably switching my grad school idea away from being a social worker and more towards doing a Masters in Public Health. Partially because there’s so many jobs as a social worker that are just shoveling back the tide, and partially because have you seen the public? They need some health.

Anyway, I may wind up doing epidemiology, and I’d be then using real live math all the time, trig and calc and all that whatnots.

470 J A P  Jul 9, 2014 10:32:11am

re: #450 ObserverArt

I always wondered as a Catholic myself, why do people say they ‘believe’ but do not follow the rules. Nothing of good for anyone in that.

As an atheist, I’ve wondered the same thing.

471 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:33:03am

re: #469 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I’m probably switching my grad school idea away from being a social worker and more towards doing a Masters in Public Health. Partially because there’s so many jobs as a social worker that are just shoveling back the tide, and partially because have you seen the public? They need some health.

Anyway, I may wind up doing epidemiology, and I’d be then using real live math all the time, trig and calc and all that whatnots.

Back when I was doing network design and implementation, especially setting up field networks, I had to use math all the time. Nowadays, now that I’ve transitioned over to security and auditing, not so much.

472 b_sharp  Jul 9, 2014 10:33:40am

re: #471 Kragar

Back when I was doing network design and implementation, especially setting up field networks, I had to use math all the time. Nowadays, now that I’ve transitioned over to security and auditing, not so much.

Math is evil.

473 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 10:36:15am

re:
#468

Looks like Elisha Cuthbert. Terrible misuse of Ms. Cuthbert image.

474 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 10:36:35am

re: #470 J A P

As an atheist, I’ve wondered the same thing.

Just to be clear…I am not a practicing Catholic, just raised and schooled for 12 years. I loved the education. The rest I found troubling due to things like we are discussing.

475 ObserverArt  Jul 9, 2014 10:38:03am

re: #473 Bulworth

re:
#468

Looks like Elisha Cuthbert. Terrible misuse of Ms. Cuthbert image.

Wait…people on twitter are not who they depict themsleves as???

Who knew?

/

476 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:38:14am

re: #472 b_sharp

Math is evil.

Nowadays, my math consists of “We have 500,000 devices across 75 server farms. Figure out how many scanners we need to employ based on the devices homed to each site, taking bandwidth, network latency and ability to support other mission requirements”

Its not so much math as its practical knowledge of the environment.

477 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:39:17am

re: #475 ObserverArt

Wait…people on twitter are not who they depict themsleves as???

Who knew?

/

I do, in fact, totally look like this:

478 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 10:39:59am

re: #477 Kragar

You’re a car?

479 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 10:41:36am

re: #459 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I’m always amazed at how with the calculus one starts more or less from nothing (derivatives (and thus also integrals) are derived from the first principles, basically) and in the end gets a sort of a mathematical analog to Hubble… That’s what I call “free lunch”.

480 Romantic Heretic  Jul 9, 2014 10:42:25am

re: #433 Lidane

Oh sure. The GOP could do a lot to try and appeal to Latinos. Problem is, they have to also appeal to the same knuckle dragging INVADING BROWN HORDE! DISEASED MONGRELS! SHOOT OR DEPORT THEM ALL! Tea Party base. The GOP are never going to gain among Latinos as long as they have to whore themselves out to the racists to win.

They don’t have to whore themselves out. They just want to.

481 Romantic Heretic  Jul 9, 2014 10:43:37am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing a bunch of guns into a bank, that’s real smart wingnuts.

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Oh, that’s going to turn out well.

482 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:44:19am

Hamas: We attempted to hit the nuclear reactor in Dimona

Channel 2 suggested that the rockets may have been the Syrian-made M-302 type rocket, which was used to target Hadera on Wednesday.

483 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 10:45:26am

re: #482 Killgore Trout

“Because we wouldn’t be affected if anything happened, God will protect us!”

484 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 10:46:37am

re: #478 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You’re a car?

Nope, I’m a manga of a car accident waiting to happen.

485 J A P  Jul 9, 2014 10:47:10am

re: #474 ObserverArt

I was raised without any religion and I have to say that there are some things that I just don’t get. One of them is whether or not people really, truly believe what they say they believe. When I was young and I still had friends who would sort of try to get me to believe but who were very moderate in practice, I used to tell them that they didn’t want me to believe. If I actually thought that I was going to be tortured for eternity for doing certain things, like sex outside of marriage or drinking, I sure as hell wouldn’t be doing them. I don’t even think it would be a difficult decision. It would be easy - provided I actually believed it.

486 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 10:47:50am

re: #483 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“Because we wouldn’t be affected if anything happened, God will protect us!”

Nuclear radiation, how does it work? /

487 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:48:06am

re: #483 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“Because we wouldn’t be affected if anything happened, God will protect us!”

Wind blows towards the west bank anyways. That’s the PA’s problem

488 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 9, 2014 10:49:00am

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing a bunch of guns into a bank, that’s real smart wingnuts.

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Memo to self… Don’t go by my local BOA Friday… pay the 2 dollar surcharge to get money from the ATM at the gas station.

RBS

489 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 10:49:01am

re: #486 Archangelus

Reminds me of the fundies who think that the GW won’t affect anyone, God’s promise and stuff.

490 J A P  Jul 9, 2014 10:49:08am

re: #466 Kragar

I had a similar experience. Calculus was far easier for me than the things that came before it.

491 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 10:49:23am

re: #487 Killgore Trout

Wind blows towards the west bank anyways. That’s the PA’s problem

I’m fairly certain any fallout would cover the idiots trying to hit it just as well… it’s a small small region after all..

492 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 10:50:24am

It looks like an organized trolling effort.

493 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 9, 2014 10:51:12am

re: #476 Kragar

Nowadays, my math consists of “We have 500,000 devices across 75 server farms. Figure out how many scanners we need to employ based on the devices homed to each site, taking bandwidth, network latency and ability to support other mission requirements”

Its not so much math as its practical knowledge of the environment.

How many scanners do you need?

494 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 10:51:20am

An account called DumbGOP is probably not a teabagger—they are not that self-aware. :)

495 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 10:51:28am

re: #481 Romantic Heretic

Oh, that’s going to turn out well.

I do think they want a test case. This is how those people operate.

496 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:51:44am

re: #491 Archangelus

I’m fairly certain any fallout would cover the idiots trying to hit it just as well… it’s a small small region after all..

I’m reasonably sure they don’t care.

497 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 10:51:51am

Here’s a simple calculus problem for those who’ve found the calculus easy:

;)

498 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 9, 2014 10:52:46am

re: #497 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Here’s a simple calculus problem for those who’ve found the calculus easy:

[Embedded image]

;)

Dear X,

I am not your therapist. Solve your own damn problems.

499 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 10:53:19am

re: #488 RealityBasedSteve

Memo to self… Don’t go by my local BOA Friday… pay the 2 dollar surcharge to get money from the ATM at the gas station.

RBS

Naw, buy a candy bar at the drugstore or supermarket and get cash back. At least you’ll have something to snack on and no charge. : )

500 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 10:54:43am

re: #489 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Reminds me of the fundies who think that the GW won’t affect anyone, God’s promise and stuff.

I remember the last time i encountered one of the “God won’t let the world come to an end” anti-GW type… replied with a somewhat lengthy but to the point explanation on how GW wouldn’t be anywhere near the biblical “end of the world” - the globe we live in has endured much worse before humanity showed up - but just the suffering and deaths of dozens of millions around the world, quite a few of which will probably be Republicans in red US states. That last part got him to go silent and start to think.

501 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 10:54:48am

re: #497 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Here’s a simple calculus problem for those who’ve found the calculus easy:

[Embedded image]

;)

Don’t even come near me with anything squared. : )

502 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 10:54:59am

re: #492 Pie-onist Overlord

I will laugh my ass off if any of the open carry idiots do this.

503 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 10:55:18am

re: #498 RealityBasedSteve

Dear X,

I am not your therapist. Solve your own damn problems.

Now that’s a reality-based attitude ;)

504 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 10:56:07am

re: #502 Lidane

I will laugh my ass off if any of the open carry idiots do this.

I’ll be watching with a big tub of popcorn…

505 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 10:56:52am

Hamas Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri: Human-Shield Policy Is Effecive
Youtube Video

506 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 10:57:39am

re: #493 RealityBasedSteve

How many scanners do you need?

Holy shit—did you notice when that movie came out (1981) there were only 4B people on the planet? 33 yrs later there are 7.046 billion (2012)?

Exponential growth is still exponential growth, no matter how you slice it.

507 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 10:59:24am

re: #498 RealityBasedSteve

Dear X,

I am not your therapist. Solve your own damn problems.

and I’m not gonna tell you Y.

508 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 10:59:36am

OK, I know it’s been a long day and i’m super tired due to lack of sleep and whatnot, but am I really the only one who can’t quite make sense of part of the following paragraphs (taken from the start of a commentary on Israeli media in English)?

IDF and Hamas enter the second day of “Operation Protective Edge”, with both parties acting in contrasting ways: Hamas has activated thus far most of its repertoire prepared in advanced for this round of fighting, but has failed to cause casualties or major damage to Israel.

However, the IDF began the operation with moderation on its behalf, and works according to an orderly plan of attacking targets, which have become increasingly intense. The objective of the IDF is to put gradual pressure, which will continue to increase, without exhausting all the qualitative targets, within the first two-three days. The growing pressure should lead Hamas to consider at any given moment the continued profitability of the fighting.

It has come to be seen that by the end of the first day of Operation Protective Edge, Hamas, with the assistance of Islamic Jihad, tried to surprise with a heavy attack on Israeli territory. For this reason, Hamas sent a Marine squad to attack in the area of kibbutz Zikim, while in parallel volleys of missiles were fired on large areas of Israel, including Tel Aviv, the Sharon Plain and Jerusalem. The firing of rockets even arrived the northern city of Hadera.

509 Romantic Heretic  Jul 9, 2014 11:00:20am

re: #495 Justanotherhuman

I do think they want a test case. This is how those people operate.

I’m hoping the casualty count of getting a test case isn’t too high.

510 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:00:26am

re: #507 Backwoods_Sleuth

and I’m not gonna tell you Y.

And Z is dead anyway.

/doesn’t work in the US

511 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:01:13am

re: #510 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And Z is dead anyway.

/doesn’t work in the US

Zed is dead?

512 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:01:31am

re: #510 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And Z is dead anyway.

/doesn’t work in the US

Zed is dead baby :)

513 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 11:01:51am

re: #482 Killgore Trout

Hamas has attempted to hit a lot of things - people for one. Thus far, they’ve been spectacularly awful in that regard. Thankfully few Israelis (or Palestinians) have been injured from Hamas projectiles.

They’ve failed to hit targets they’ve aimed for, whether by missile, or even infiltrating Israel by sea (as the video you provided earlier shows their forces coming under fire and being killed on the beach). Hamas will claim that bit to be victory, that they were able to wade ashore, even though they were all killed.

Israel has Iron Dome and other point defense systems in place around Dimona and other key facilities. It is doubtful that they’d be able to hit the reactor, but if they did, and this presupposes that they’d be able to damage the reactor and its containment systems, then the ensuing fallout would generally take it over the Negev and into Jordan and Saudi Arabia before looping back towards Egypt and then to Gaza based on prevailing winds depending on time of year.

514 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:01:56am

re: #511 Justanotherhuman

Zed is dead?

And the bird is the word.

515 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:02:31am

re: #514 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And the bird is the word.

Nooooooooooooooo!!!! /StewieGriffin

516 wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2014 11:02:58am

re: #514 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And the bird is the word.

Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

517 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 11:03:58am

re: #511 Justanotherhuman

re: #512 Archangelus

That’s right Fabienne. Now get on the chopper baby!

518 J A P  Jul 9, 2014 11:04:06am

re: #500 Archangelus

Excellent point. It isn’t “the end of the world” at all. It’s rising food prices, famine, various other types of suffering that I probably can’t even figure, changing coast lines, loss of property, relocation of large numbers of people, probably lots of refuges, loss of many species, but not the “end of the world.” Do the people on the far right think that that’s what people who believe climate change is real are saying? That it’s “the end of the world?”

519 jaunte  Jul 9, 2014 11:04:09am

re: #508 Archangelus

It’s just really bad writing.

520 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 11:04:27am

Daughter: “I had a scary dream last night.”
Me: “Were you being chased thru an abandoned carnival ground at night by clowns with abnormally long arms and legs who moved through shadows while distorted calliope music played?”
Daughter: “No… Thanks, I won’t be sleeping ever again.”

521 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 11:05:15am
522 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:05:20am

re: #520 Kragar

Thanks for that, now it’s me that won’t be sleeping ever again!! /

523 Randall Gross  Jul 9, 2014 11:05:35am

mediamatters.org

Oh Noes! They r givin r fAmbly restrooms to the transexuals!!11ty!

524 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:06:01am

re: #520 Kragar

Daughter: “I had a scary dream last night.”
Me: “Were you being chased thru an abandoned carnival ground at night by clowns with abnormally long arms and legs who moved through shadows while distorted calliope music played?”
Daughter: “No… Thanks, I won’t be sleeping ever again.”

That last line is what some Czech friends said when I showed them a J-Horror film called Noroi. Really creeped them out.

525 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:06:03am

re: #521 Backwoods_Sleuth

Australia’s Archie Thompson also broke the record for most goals scored by a player in an international match by scoring 13 goals.[1]

526 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:06:18am

re: #525 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

They had fun that day. /

527 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:06:58am

re: #524 Dr Lizardo

So you would recommend?

528 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 11:07:35am
529 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:08:22am

re: #519 jaunte

It’s just really bad writing.

Also (and probably more a case of) bad or simply no editing..
Didn’t wanna post the whole thing since the rest is bad, but was curious for an opinion other than my own since I’m what you might call biased (used to work for them)…

530 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 11:08:53am

re: #524 Dr Lizardo

That last line is what some Czech friends said when I showed them a J-Horror film called Noroi. Really creeped them out.

I later played this just loudly enough she could hear it in the other room.

Youtube Video

“MOM! DAD IS PLAYING CARNIVAL MUSIC!”

531 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 11:08:57am

re: #514 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And the bird is the word.

Youtube Video

532 CuriousLurker  Jul 9, 2014 11:09:27am

Anyone who’s Jewish or has Jewish friends or family members, please be aware of this as it looks like something really ugly is bubbling up from the stinking depths of the wingnut cesspool.

If Klayman is involved in promoting antisemitic memes, then it may be a test run at attempting to mainstream this crap: littlegreenfootballs.com

Ignore it at your peril.

533 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 11:10:34am

re: #459 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I will eventually obtain the calculus.

I have some calculus bouncing around in my kidneys.

:(

534 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 11:10:38am

re: #532 CuriousLurker

I’d page that.

535 Randall Gross  Jul 9, 2014 11:11:05am

re: #530 Kragar

I later played this just loudly enough she could hear it in the other room.

[Embedded content]

Video

“MOM! DAD IS PLAYING CARNIVAL MUSIC!”

Youtube Video

536 J A P  Jul 9, 2014 11:11:45am

re: #533 Feline Fearless Leader

Last night I was having some back pain and was thinking, “I hope this isn’t what I think it is.”

538 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:11:52am

re: #527 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So you would recommend?

Yes, I would. It’s directed by Koji Shiraishi, and while the bulk of his repertoire is mediocre, with Noroi, he nailed it.

One of the creepier J-Horror films. Not so much scary as much as it gets under your skin.

539 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 11:12:21am

re: #521 Backwoods_Sleuth

Losing 7 -1 in a World Cup semifinal is goddamned embarrassing. I don’t care how anyone wants to parse it.

Brazil gave up four goals in six minutes and five goals in the first half. That’s just pathetic.

540 piratedan  Jul 9, 2014 11:12:43am

re: #537 jaunte

obviously the mutants are walking amongst us……

541 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 11:13:22am

Will. Have. One.

542 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 11:13:30am

re: #539 Lidane

Losing 7 -1 in a World Cup semifinal is goddamned embarrassing. I don’t care how anyone wants to parse it.

Brazil gave up four goals in six minutes and five goals in the first half. That’s just pathetic.

FALSE FLAG TO DISTRACT FROM BENGHAZI!!!!11!!!!!

543 Timothy Watson  Jul 9, 2014 11:14:03am

re: #537 jaunte

WaPo Data Visualization

President Obama and the horse mask person: An investigation involving data and charts

Really, WaPo? Are you doing the graphs for USA Today now?

544 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 9, 2014 11:14:31am

re: #537 jaunte

That’s overlooking Washington’s encounter with Ye Masked Dragoone, where the Dragoone implored Washington to ride him into battle and Washington replied, “Neigh.”

545 Timothy Watson  Jul 9, 2014 11:15:01am

Speaking of calculus, I’m currently taking precalculus/trigonometry (voodoo I say), to met some prerequisites for a post-baccalaureate certificate program in accounting.

546 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 11:15:10am

How the Senate voted on Castro’s Cabinet appointment. Spoiler: all the nays were Republicans.

547 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:15:39am

re: #527 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So you would recommend?

As a matter of fact, here it is with English subtitles.

Youtube Video

548 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2014 11:15:41am

re: #536 J A P

Last night I was having some back pain and was thinking, “I hope this isn’t what I think it is.”

Been there. Luckily most of the time it’s just discomfort as they shift down the tubes and eventually go out. Not like a friend of mine whose stones are too big to effectively pass.

549 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:16:16am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

Thanks ^_^

550 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 11:16:44am

re: #541 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Will. Have. One.

I prefer more Fallout in my hoodies: Vault 101 :)

551 CuriousLurker  Jul 9, 2014 11:17:49am

re: #534 lawhawk

I’d page that.

I don’t have the time—I’m running behind today—but feel free to use any all of it if you want to make a Page yourself. Here’s my pastebin with the raw HTML code of the comment if you (or someone else) wants to go for it.

Gotta run. BBL

552 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:17:54am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

Oh, wait, it’s The Curse. I’ve seen it.

553 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 11:18:15am

Gun-fucking Meme of the Day:
Why are these people wearing camo? They are not active members of any military force: no nation’s army would allow that “STAB ME!” bare midriff.

554 Stanley Sea  Jul 9, 2014 11:18:28am

re: #546 Backwoods_Sleuth

How the Senate voted on Castro’s Cabinet appointment. Spoiler: all the nays were Republicans.

McCain is such a dick.

555 b.d.  Jul 9, 2014 11:19:09am

Someone needs a nap.

556 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:21:50am

re: #541 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Will. Have. One.

Nearly ordered the same thing from dealextreme.com (REALLY popular for shoppers in Israel to the point that they now offer many products with instructions in English, Chinese and Hebrew)… I’m assuming that website is a competitor based on the price and free global shipping…

557 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 11:22:41am

Al Jazz does the “disproportionate response” thing
Photos: Disproportionate civilian impacts as Gaza war escalates

Few injuries reported among Israeli civilians, while hundreds injured in Gaza and over 40 killed

558 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:22:48am

re: #553 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking Meme of the Day:
Why are these people wearing camo? They are not active members of any military force: no nation’s army would allow that “STAB ME!” bare midriff.

[Embedded content]

Gun porn almost always requires either (a) a belly button showing, or (b) cleavage.

Meanwhile,

President Obama: ‘We’re better off now than we were 5 years ago, despite the unyielding opposition of a few’ - live video
End of alert

559 Gus  Jul 9, 2014 11:22:51am

re: #555 b.d.

Someone needs a nap.

[Embedded content]

Ironic coming from him.

560 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:23:42am

re: #552 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Oh, wait, it’s The Curse. I’ve seen it.

Are you thinking of Ju-On?

561 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 11:23:56am

re: #558 Justanotherhuman

Gun porn almost always requires either (a) a belly button showing, or (b) cleavage.

or: (c) buttcheeks

562 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:24:14am

re: #557 Killgore Trout

Al Jazz does the “disproportionate response” thing
Photos: Disproportionate civilian impacts as Gaza war escalates

Would they be screaming about proportionality if each of the 100+ rockets that Hamas fired had killed Israeli civilians? Methinks not…

563 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:24:43am

re: #560 Dr Lizardo

No no, I remember the tin-foil hat guy.

564 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 11:24:44am

re: #558 Justanotherhuman

It’s the Lara Croft syndrome.

565 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 11:25:59am

re: #553 Pie-onist Overlord

Reports of military sex assault up sharply

566 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 11:26:09am

re: #562 Archangelus

Would they be screaming about proportionality if each of the 100+ rockets that Hamas fired had killed Israeli civilians? Methinks not…

..or if Israel acted like Hamas and crowded civilians where they know rockets are going to land?

567 lawhawk  Jul 9, 2014 11:26:17am

re: #562 Archangelus

The only thing disproportionate is that Israel’s targeting is disproportionately hitting terrorists, while Hamas has thus far managed not to kill anyone via their barrages (not counting all those Palestinians killed because they’re firing from within civilian areas on purpose to maximize the body count).

568 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:28:30am

re: #565 Kragar


Reports of military sex assault up sharply

The perps need to be kicked out with bad discharges. And make it stick.

569 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 11:29:31am

So yesterday, Joni Ernst hopped on board the impeachment failboat. Today? Not so much:

ZOMG RINO!

570 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:29:36am

re: #563 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No no, I remember the tin-foil hat guy.

OK.

571 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 11:30:04am

re: #568 Justanotherhuman

The perps need to be kicked out with bad discharges. And make it stick.

But the women all have access to guns, how could they be sexually assaulted?
///

572 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:30:31am

re: #564 lawhawk

It’s the Lara Croft syndrome.

Or the Revy Syndrome.

See also, the anime Black Lagoon.

573 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:30:32am

re: #570 Dr Lizardo

The other film you’ve recommended, Marebito, I haven’t seen yet, but it’s on the list.

574 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:30:44am

re: #564 lawhawk

It’s the Lara Croft syndrome.

Yeah, they do live in a fantasy world, don’t they?

575 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 9, 2014 11:31:02am

re: #571 Kragar

But the women all have access to guns, how could they be sexually assaulted?
///

HURR HURR THEY MAKES TEH GUN-FREE ZONES & DON’T ALLOWED TEH BRAVE SOLIDERS TO HAS ALL TEH GUNS!!!!!!!

576 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:31:03am

re: #573 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The other film you’ve recommended, Marebito, I haven’t seen yet, but it’s on the list.

That’s a good one too. Also creepy and strongly influenced by the Shaver Mysteries.

577 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:31:45am

re: #571 Kragar

But the women all have access to guns, how could they be sexually assaulted?
///

The same way their male counterparts are being sexually assaulted, also.

578 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:32:25am

OT: Thanks to people on the Internet , the success of the ridiculous Potato salad Kickstarter has exceeded its $10 project goal by more than $70,000 to date.
(For those who have no idea what i’m talking about, see this article about it: avclub.com)

Meanwhile, a friend of mine has created a mock project mixing potato salad with the game Flappy Bird to create Flappy Potato Salad. While originally an act of sarcasm (you can find the project Here), it’s actually been funded in a couple of hours…

In conclusion, the internet is a strange place indeed…

579 Killgore Trout  Jul 9, 2014 11:32:35am

Israel’s disproportionate care for Palestinian civilians

IDF Pinpoint Strike on Weapons Storage Facility in Gaza

Youtube Video

580 Timothy Watson  Jul 9, 2014 11:33:48am

re: #578 Archangelus

OT: Thanks to people on the Internet , the success of the ridiculous Potato salad Kickstarter has exceeded its $10 project goal by more than $70,000 to date.
See article about it here:
avclub.com

Meanwhile, a friend of mine has created a mock project mixing potato salads with the Flappy Bird game to create Flappy Potato Salad. While originally an act of sarcasm (you can find the project Linkhere, it’s actually been funded in a couple of hours…

In conclusion, the internet is a strange place indeed…

Who is contributing money to these projects and how do we go about charging a tax surcharge on them?

581 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:35:02am

Wait what?
A St.-Petersburg official was caught yesterday drunken, walking on the streets without pants and mumbling about “Lugansk” (!).

fontanka.ru

582 Archangelus  Jul 9, 2014 11:35:33am

re: #580 Timothy Watson

Who is contributing money to these projects and how do we go about charging a tax surcharge on them?

NO NEW TAXES!!!1eleventy /

583 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 11:36:36am

re: #581 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wait what?
A St.-Petersburg official was caught yesterday drunken, walking on the streets without pants and mumbling about “Lugansk” (!).

fontanka.ru

[Embedded image]

Everybody needs a hobby…

584 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 11:36:42am

re: #556 Archangelus

re: #550 Lidane

And, ordered. Wife thinks I will look hot in it so it was a no brainer lol.

585 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:37:11am

re: #583 Backwoods_Sleuth

First thought: “So it has begun!”

586 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:37:42am

Every hobby needs a lobby.

587 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:38:04am

re: #578 Archangelus

OT: Thanks to people on the Internet , the success of the ridiculous Potato salad Kickstarter has exceeded its $10 project goal by more than $70,000 to date.
(For those who have no idea what i’m talking about, see this article about it: avclub.com)

Meanwhile, a friend of mine has created a mock project mixing potato salad with the game Flappy Bird to create Flappy Potato Salad. While originally an act of sarcasm (you can find the project Here), it’s actually been funded in a couple of hours…

In conclusion, the internet is a strange place indeed…

In a way, it’s almost worse than the worst drug addiction…

588 Lidane  Jul 9, 2014 11:38:40am

Mental health break:

BRB. Need moar coffee.

589 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 11:38:50am

re: #556 Archangelus

Not sure myself. I have seen these hoodies before then saw the price on this one and sent the link to my wife and she thought I would look great in it so it’s a done deal. Love the Assassin’s Creed games so that’s an added bonus.

590 Timothy Watson  Jul 9, 2014 11:39:18am

Methinks Penny Arcade was on to something a couple years ago:

Original Link.

591 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:41:23am

re: #588 Lidane

592 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:42:14am

re: #591 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

(it lies in wait…)

593 Teukka  Jul 9, 2014 11:44:13am

re: #506 Justanotherhuman

Holy shit—did you notice when that movie came out (1981) there were only 4B people on the planet? 33 yrs later there are 7.046 billion (2012)?

Exponential growth is still exponential growth, no matter how you slice it.

Ayup. And a J population curve is still J population curve no matter how you slice it, which means that it ends in an extinction pulse.

594 Stanley Sea  Jul 9, 2014 11:44:47am
595 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:46:46am

So you wake up, and what do you see?..

596 Justanotherhuman  Jul 9, 2014 11:46:48am

Holy crap, have there ever been 2 senators who liked the camera this much yet had nothing to offer?

Live video: Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., Ted Cruz, R-Texas, speak on the US Senate floor about President Obama’s Texas trip - @NBCNews
see original on nbcnews.com

598 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 9, 2014 11:52:49am

re: #595 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

as soon as the alarm goes off that is what I am greeted with. If I do not move fast enough. If the meowing doesn’t work the face slapping/pawing begins.

599 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 9, 2014 11:53:34am

re: #598 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

These guys mean business. ;)

600 Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2014 11:54:51am

re: #599 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

These guys mean business. ;)

It’s Reginald and Ronald Kray.

If the Krays were cats, of course.

601 Kragar  Jul 9, 2014 11:55:39am

re: #600 Dr Lizardo

It’s Reginald and Ronald Kray.

If the Krays were cats, of course.

Nonsense.

Its clearly Doug and Dinsdale Piranha.

602 Bulworth  Jul 9, 2014 11:57:52am

re:
#596

They’re mad he didn’t go to Texas soon enough. Then they’re mad he didn’t go to the right spot. Then they’re mad he didn’t bring a thousand mile wall with him.

603 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2014 12:00:03pm

I’ve witnessed two microbursts. They are freaking amazing (and scary).

604 Jolo5309  Jul 9, 2014 12:16:15pm

re: #153 sattv4u2

After working four 12+ hour days in a row (and add on the nearly 3 hour round trip commute each day) I really needed more than 5-6 this morning

AND,,, one of the trees ( a bradford pear) is growing into a beautiful leyland cypress out front of the house. The other tree is pushing up against (and about to knock over) a portion of the stockade fence in the backyard

So both are going out of necessity

I have gotten rid of two spruce so far from my yard, both about 17 m tall, and both within 2 m of the house. The next one to go is one of the maples, it is about 35 years old and has been losing branches (large branches) whenever the wind picks up.

605 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 9, 2014 1:02:24pm

re: #595 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So you wake up, and what do you see?..

[Embedded image]

They are getting ready to steal your soul.

RBS

606 Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2014 1:17:11pm

re: #458 bubba zanetti

Is everyone’s troll radar down this morning? Check TL’s, people.

[Embedded content]

“She” has to assure you “she” is a girl in real life.

607 Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2014 1:22:11pm

re: #497 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Here’s a simple calculus problem for those who’ve found the calculus easy:

[Embedded image]

;)

I can play that on a saxophone :-)

608 Jolo5309  Jul 9, 2014 1:58:27pm

re: #550 Lidane

I prefer more Fallout in my hoodies: Vault 101 :)

Looks like a bunnyhug to me


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