GOP Will Sue Obama for Not Imposing His Nightmare Socialist Scheme Quickly Enough

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Just when you think it’s impossible for the Republican Party’s obstructionism to get any more absurd and ridiculous, John Boehner releases the details of his plan to sue President Obama.

The GOP have spent the last couple of years demonizing the Affordable Care Act as the most nightmarish socialist scheme ever imposed on America. So now they’re going to sue Obama for not imposing it quickly enough.

You can’t make this stuff up; no one would believe it.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) on Thursday revealed that he plans to sue President Barack Obama for his unilateral delay of the Obamacare employer mandate.

The Speaker unveiled a two-page bill that he plans to advance through the House, declaring a right of action to sue the president for exceeding his authority.

“Today we’re releasing a draft resolution that will authorize the House to file suit over the way President Obama unilaterally changed the employer mandate,” Boehner said in a statement. “In 2013, the president changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work. No president should have the power to make laws on his or her own.”

Good grief.

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222 comments
1 Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2014 3:08:18pm

So after 50+ votes to repeal the law, they’re now suing the White House for not implementing it fast enough.

It’s comedy that writes itself.

2 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2014 3:08:26pm

They obviously aren’t listening to themselves.

3 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:08:56pm

Moving this up from downstairs.

What a pile of pearl clutching by the Rs.

Delaying Parts of Obamacare: ‘Blatantly Illegal’ or Routine Adjustment?

The GOP says Obama’s decision to postpone implementing the “employer mandate” stomps all over the Constitution. It doesn’t, and here’s why.

theatlantic.com

“The Administration has not postponed the employer mandate out of policy opposition to the ACA, nor to the specific provision itself. Thus, it’s misleading to characterize the action as a “refusal to enforce.” Rather, the President has authorized a minor temporary course correction regarding individual ACA provisions, necessary in his Administration’s judgment to faithfully execute the overall statute, other related laws, and the purposes of the ACA’s framers. As a legal as well as a practical matter, that’s well within his job description. “

4 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 10, 2014 3:10:04pm

He just wants a man-date with Obama

5 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:11:04pm

If the Republicans actually knew anything about the Constitution, they might be able to get something done.

So, so tired of their obstructionist bullshit, and now they want to sue so they can get this shit up before their boys on the SC? The same activist judges who are making a mockery of the Constitution every single session?

6 ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2014 3:13:09pm

re: #3 Justanotherhuman

Moving this up from downstairs.

What a pile of pearl clutching by the Rs.

Delaying Parts of Obamacare: ‘Blatantly Illegal’ or Routine Adjustment?

The GOP says Obama’s decision to postpone implementing the “employer mandate” stomps all over the Constitution. It doesn’t, and here’s why.

theatlantic.com

“The Administration has not postponed the employer mandate out of policy opposition to the ACA, nor to the specific provision itself. Thus, it’s misleading to characterize the action as a “refusal to enforce.” Rather, the President has authorized a minor temporary course correction regarding individual ACA provisions, necessary in his Administration’s judgment to faithfully execute the overall statute, other related laws, and the purposes of the ACA’s framers. As a legal as well as a practical matter, that’s well within his job description. “

That is nice and logical as an argument. But BoehnHead knows all he needs is to keep feeding the red meat to the idiots and try and drum up some votes…and money.

It’s all a delay to get control of the Senate. That is their game plan. And then they will tie Obama up for the rest of his term…even more than they have now, while ramming their legislation through best as they can.

7 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 3:13:16pm

unilateral delay of the Obamacare employer mandate

psssst, johnny boy - this was done to help the same people who give you campaign donations

pass it on

8 AntonSirius  Jul 10, 2014 3:14:06pm

re: #3 Justanotherhuman

I was just about to post that link…

9 Bubblehead II  Jul 10, 2014 3:16:30pm

Bringing this up from down stairs.

re: #133 Targetpractice

Let me get this straight, the GOP wants the courts to order the White House to implement a mandate they’ve predicted will lead to widespread economic doom and has been the crux of many efforts to repeal the entire law?

Why not. Stop and think about. In his speech today PBO pointed out that the economy was recovering, though slower than it should be and we are in better shape than we have been for years.

What better way to sour that recovery than forcing the administration to implement the mandate and possibly causing the economy to tank right at midterm?

We are talking republicans here. You know the ones that didn’t have a problem with letting the U.S. default on its’ debt or forcing a shut down. You know those republicans.

On the other hand, I may be giving them more credit than they deserve.

154 AntonSirius Jul 10, 2014 3:03:20pm

re: #152 Bubblehead II

What better way to sour that recovery than forcing the administration to implement the mandate and possibly causing the economy to tank right at midterm?

Except there’s no chance the suit will even get to court before the midterms, much less that Boehner will get a ruling in his favor that needs to be acted upon after appeals etc

157 Bubblehead II Jul 10, 2014 3:05:18pm

re: #154 AntonSirius

Except there’s no chance the suit will even get to court before the midterms, much less that Boehner will get a ruling in his favor that needs to be acted upon after appeals etc

Ok, then let’s keep the same scenario and aim for the 2016 Presidential election then.

Again, I may be giving them to much credit.

10 Amory Blaine  Jul 10, 2014 3:17:38pm

The best obstruction money can buy. This is why they love the House.

11 Testy Toad T  Jul 10, 2014 3:17:46pm

So, okay. Let’s say Boehner wins. Then his big prize will be… a faster employer mandate? That’ll be his big golden calf? The House either will or won’t vote on impeachment; no actual matter of fact is relevant. The Senate won’t convict, barring the most stunning revelation of eeeevil conspiracy this side of Battlestar Galactica.

Is the point actually, honestly, explicitly to slow down his own caucus on voting on articles of impeachment? I feel like it might seriously be.

12 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:18:37pm
13 AntonSirius  Jul 10, 2014 3:19:32pm

re: #9 Bubblehead II

I think you are. There’s no plan here beyond mollifying the base and trying to head off an impeachment movement.

The SCOTUS precedent is crystal clear on the matter. Legally speaking, the lawsuit is a joke.

14 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 3:20:32pm

i’m really not clear on how this “sue” action works in regard to a presidential action

A lawsuit is a civil action brought in a court of law in which a plaintiff, a party who claims to have incurred loss as a result of a defendant’s actions, demands a legal or equitable remedy

i’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that if you can’t plausibly claim to be an injured party, you will be deemed to have no “standing” to bring suit

who has incurred loss here?

15 Jayleia  Jul 10, 2014 3:21:34pm

re: #14 dog philosopher

FREEDOM HAS BEEN LOST!

16 Archangelus  Jul 10, 2014 3:22:59pm

re: #11 Testy Toad T

The Senate won’t convict, barring the most stunning revelation of eeeevil conspiracy this side of Battlestar Galactica The X-Files Season 9.

FTFY /

17 Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2014 3:23:02pm

re: #14 dog philosopher

i’m really not clear on how this “sue” action works in regard to a presidential action

A lawsuit is a civil action brought in a court of law in which a plaintiff, a party who claims to have incurred loss as a result of a defendant’s actions, demands a legal or equitable remedy

i’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that if you can’t plausibly claim to be an injured party, you will be deemed to have no “standing” to bring suit

who has incurred loss here?

House Republicans are claiming they are injured by the White House’s refusal to implement a law as written by Congress, despite there being plenty of precedent that the White House’s constitutional power over how a law is implemented give it wide latitude.

18 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:24:03pm

re: #14 dog philosopher

i’m really not clear on how this “sue” action works in regard to a presidential action

A lawsuit is a civil action brought in a court of law in which a plaintiff, a party who claims to have incurred loss as a result of a defendant’s actions, demands a legal or equitable remedy

i’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that if you can’t plausibly claim to be an injured party, you will be deemed to have no “standing” to bring suit

who has incurred loss here?

It would have to be companies that have standing.

They may not like having to pay a tax on the waiver, but I doubt they would sue on their own. This is strictly a Republican red meat gesture—their racist hatred of Pres Obama knows no bounds and no sanity.

19 Archangelus  Jul 10, 2014 3:24:37pm

Meanwhile in today’s “What?!?!” category:

They just are!

20 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 10, 2014 3:26:08pm

re: #11 Testy Toad T

The Senate won’t convict, barring the most stunning revelation of eeeevil conspiracy this side of Battlestar Galactica.

Number Six is busy pestering the President in her slinky red dress no doubt…

21 whitebeach  Jul 10, 2014 3:26:32pm

Note the sly “his or her” in the illustrious speaker’s final sentence. Wonder who he could be referencing .

22 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:26:47pm

re: #19 Archangelus

Meanwhile in today’s “What?!?!” category:

They just are!

Those droll Brits. : )

23 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 10, 2014 3:27:39pm

re: #19 Archangelus

Meanwhile in today’s “What?!?!” category:

They just are!

Actually, the Chipotle Black Bean veggie burgers at Costco are pretty damned good..and I am a confirmed lover of anything meat. Just be sure to grill them about one third of the time as for a regular burger.

24 AntonSirius  Jul 10, 2014 3:28:29pm

re: #21 whitebeach

Note the sly “his or her” in the illustrious speaker’s final sentence. Wonder who he could be referencing .

RUN SARAH RUN

25 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:30:54pm

The Rs already tried setting up this bullshit in March.

House passes bill making it easier for Congress to sue the president

washingtonpost.com

“The Republican-backed measure passed 233 to 181 and was the latest in a string of Republican measures designed to calm their divided ranks by raising doubts about President Obama’s leadership during a midterm election year. Five moderate Democrats joined with every voting Republican to approve the bill.

“If passed, lawmakers concerned that a president isn’t fully executing a law would be able to file a lawsuit directly to a three-judge panel on a federal district court and appeal directly to the U.S. Supreme Court.

“But the White House said Wednesday that Obama would veto the legislation and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) called the measure “dead on arrival” in the Democratic-controlled Senate.” More

26 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:32:34pm

Like I said, if these Rs knew anything at all about the Constitution, they might get something done.

But they don’t. Ignorant fools, spending time and tax dollars on racism and hatred of Pres Obama.

Anyone with half a brain should be able to see through this horse shit.

27 Targetpractice  Jul 10, 2014 3:33:32pm

So Boehner is putting this resolution to a vote…which will likely pass without a single Democrat voting in favor, thus shredding the argument that there’s “nothing political” about this lawsuit.

28 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:34:54pm

re: #23 Aunty Entity Dragon

Actually, the Chipotle Black Bean veggie burgers at Costco are pretty damned good..and I am a confirmed lover of anything meat. Just be sure to grill them about one third of the time as for a regular burger.

I’m a lover of turkey burgers, esp fresh ground I shape myself. Veggie are OK, but most people get the edges hard overcooking them. They’re veg, not meat, so no salmonella is involved. : )

29 Kragar  Jul 10, 2014 3:35:40pm

So they obstruct him at every turn, then sue him for not moving fast enough?

30 Kid A  Jul 10, 2014 3:35:51pm

Boner wants to sue Obama? Boner, please proceed…

31 Archangelus  Jul 10, 2014 3:37:30pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

So Boehner is putting this resolution to a vote…which will likely pass without a single Democrat voting in favor, thus shredding the argument that there’s “nothing political” about this lawsuit.

You just know he’ll find some half-baked BS argument to go against that claim. Spouting BS and getting nothing substantial done is all the party seems to be doing these days…

32 Kid A  Jul 10, 2014 3:38:20pm

re: #29 Kragar

So they obstruct him at every turn, then sue him for not moving fast enough?

It’s not designed to be intelligent. Let’s not forget who Boner’s base is.

33 darthstar  Jul 10, 2014 3:39:20pm

Oh, I’d so like Obama to say, “Okay, Boehner, you win. Employer mandate holiday revoked!”

34 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 3:39:46pm

re: #32 Kid A

It’s not designed to be intelligent. Let’s not forget who Boner’s base is.

And a businessman should never go up against a Constitutional lawyer.

That’s kind of like me telling Charles how to write code. : )

35 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 3:42:41pm

re: #33 darthstar

Oh, I’d so like Obama to say, “Okay, Boehner, you win. Employer mandate holiday revoked!”

oh wouldn’t that be sweet!

36 Archangelus  Jul 10, 2014 3:48:39pm

Dozens of attempts to repeal the ACA, impeachment and other anti-obama tactics - the GOP’s efforts are about as substantial, successful and finite as the efforts of the feline overlord depicted below:

No end in sight..

37 CuriousLurker  Jul 10, 2014 3:56:40pm

I know it’s early in the thread to go OT, but I’m gonna call it a night and wanted to leave you guys something positive. Next time you think you’re having a rough day, remember this little guy:

Youtube Video

Full story here: Englewood toddler takes victory walk after amputations

G’nite, lizards.

38 geoffm33  Jul 10, 2014 3:57:21pm

Evening all. Having dinner in Ogunquit ME to wrap my vacation. On the lookout for FEMA gay marriage enforcement officers.

39 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 10, 2014 3:59:11pm

What do they expect him to do?

What the hell do they expect him to do?

Obama tries to go through Congress:

Filibuster! Obstruction!

Obama tries to get around Congress:

Tyranny! Communism! Dictator!

40 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 4:07:50pm

Tragedy everywhere.

11 people, including 8 children, killed when minivan falls into pond in Hunan, China - @XHNews
End of alert

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 4:13:48pm

I thought the Costco Derangement was already over yesterday, but then this came over Teh Twitters:

42 Minor_L  Jul 10, 2014 4:16:08pm

re: #12 Justanotherhuman

Yep, that’s pretty much the extent of it.

Think what they could have achieved if they hadn’t spent all of their time obstructing, trying to repeal ACA and attempting to get rid of the President. But, then they have the chutzpah to claim he and the Democrats aren’t getting anything done. These people are un-freaking-real.

43 DubsCorleone  Jul 10, 2014 4:17:20pm

I have never in my life seen such group of people so eagerly willing to take their turn at being drivers of the dumbassmobile in my entire life
If there ever were a group of people that needed an ex-lax, it’s Boehener and his cronies-they literally are proud to be an unmitigated waste of our collective time-SMH

44 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 4:17:30pm

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

I thought the Costco Derangement was already over yesterday, but then this came over Teh Twitters:

[Embedded content]

Good grief…talk about Godwinning something.

45 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 4:22:45pm

I’ll bet the sheets on their bed are confederate flags, and they use the white percales for social events.

twitter.com

46 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 4:23:02pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

Good grief…talk about Godwinning something.

Well if you go back and look at the thread from a couple of days ago, there was always the Godwins, but it looks like somebody spent some time picking out the right font and logo for this one, instead of just grabbing the first picture that came up in Google image search.

47 ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2014 4:23:27pm

I had introduced some new evidence of illegal aliens invading Murrieta California in the last thread…just as Charles launched this one. I wanted to let this thread go some before I bring it up here so everyone can get a feel for what those poor folks are facing…

Illegal Aliens invade Murrieta California

48 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 4:25:17pm

Ridiculous story:

ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) - We now know more about the veteran who died at a VA Hospital cafeteria recently in Albuquerque while he waited for an ambulance.

The family of 71-year-old Jim Napoleon Garcia - a Vietnam veteran - says he died while waiting for an ambulance to take him to the emergency room which was only 500 yards away.

Hospital officials say it took 15 to 20 minutes for an ambulance to be dispatched to take Garcia from one building to another.

VA spokeswoman Sonja Brown says staff followed policy in calling 911 after Garcia collapsed last week.

She went on to say that the policy is under review.

Strongly worded letter from the whole NM Congressional delegation (.pdf).

49 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:27:37pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Ridiculous story:

Strongly worded letter from the whole NM Congressional delegation (.pdf).

Waiting for an ambulance is a fairly common pastime for those who are dying.

50 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 4:29:26pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Waiting for an ambulance is a fairly common pastime for those who are dying.

Ya, he shoulda got up and walked over there….

/wtf were they thinking

51 ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2014 4:29:36pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Ridiculous story:

Strongly worded letter from the whole NM Congressional delegation (.pdf).

Policy. It’s always policy. I understand there might be legal issues…but sometimes maybe the law could be made to have times when the situation demands policy will not cut it and pure need and logic take precedent.

52 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 4:29:39pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Ridiculous story:

Strongly worded letter from the whole NM Congressional delegation (.pdf).

Good gawd, they expected MoC to file an FOIA request?

What gall.

53 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 4:30:34pm

re: #51 ObserverArt

Policy. It’s always policy. I understand there might be legal issues…but sometimes maybe the law could be made to have times when the situation demands policy will not cut it and pure need and logic take precedent.

Then they won’t even pull the policy out of the file drawer…

54 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:32:05pm

re: #51 ObserverArt

Policy. It’s always policy. I understand there might be legal issues…but sometimes maybe the law could be made to have times when the situation demands policy will not cut it and pure need and logic take precedent.

Guess they could have slung him over the dessert cart and pushed him the 500 yards.

There was no way to know the ambulance wasn’t the quickest, best equipped response.

55 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 10, 2014 4:34:49pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Guess they could have slung him over the dessert cart and pushed him the 500 yards.

There was no way to know the ambulance wasn’t the quickest, best equipped response.

500 yards is a really fucking long way. 5 football fields. Who knows what the terrain or stairs or whatever between the cafeteria and the ER is. Etc.

56 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 4:35:38pm

Guns found at teen slaying-suspect’s home in Tenn.

bigstory.ap.org

LOBELVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Police are examining firearms found at the home of a 15-year-old boy charged with shooting a longtime member of the National Guard at a Tennessee armory.

“Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokesman Josh DeVine, said “several” weapons were uncovered Thursday.

“Ballistic experts are studying whether any were involved in Wednesday’s shooting in Lobelville, about 50 miles southwest of Nashville.” More

No doubt this kid came from a “Guns R Us” home.

57 EPR-radar  Jul 10, 2014 4:37:55pm

re: #52 Justanotherhuman

Good gawd, they expected MoC to file an FOIA request?

What gall.

Indeed. Now is not the time for VA officials to play bureaucratic games.

58 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:38:25pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

Ya, he shoulda got up and walked over there….

/wtf were they thinking

They were thinking sound risk management. The ambulance is the policy because, when it works, it’s the best policy. Doesn’t always work.

From the institutional perspective, the shit that comes down when you follow the regs and someone dies is always sweeter-smelling than the shit that comes down when you don’t follow the regs and someone dies.

59 Skip Intro  Jul 10, 2014 4:38:38pm

Obama and Governor Goodhair having a little chat.

60 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:39:31pm

re: #55 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

500 yards is a really fucking long way. 5 football fields. Who knows what the terrain or stairs or whatever between the cafeteria and the ER is. Etc.

And a modern ambulance is half an ER, on-site, when it arrives.

61 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 10, 2014 4:42:03pm

re: #59 Skip Intro

Obama and Governor Goodhair having a little chat.

[Embedded content]

It is like when your mom drags you along to an event and you scowl throughout the whole thing to let the world know you do not want to be there.

62 ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2014 4:42:06pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Guess they could have slung him over the dessert cart and pushed him the 500 yards.

There was no way to know the ambulance wasn’t the quickest, best equipped response.

Okay understood. But if that is the case…maybe the hospital needs a transport for such emergencies. And I know…VA…budgets…lawyers, insurance…frustration…no way to get the guy 500 yards. Dead guy.

It just a plain bitch then.

Sad for all involved.

63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 4:43:57pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

And a modern ambulance is half an ER, on-site, when it arrives.

“on-site” is the operative word. An ambulance is not always right there, and most likely is some distance away already dealing with another call.
I speak from personal experience as an EMT.

64 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 4:45:29pm

what’s all this i hear about illegal aileens?

or is it eileens? irenes?

65 Teukka  Jul 10, 2014 4:46:47pm

re: #62 ObserverArt

Okay understood. But if that is the case…maybe the hospital needs a transport for such emergencies. And I know…VA…budgets…lawyers, insurance…frustration…no way to get the guy 500 yards. Dead guy.

It just a plain bitch then.

Sad for all involved.

I’ve seen a similar situation happen outside a an ER here in Stockholm County, Sweden. Two nurses and a gurney those 500m (slightly more than 500yds) there and back. No questions asked.
If anything, special purpose gurney with wheels more appropriate for outdoor use (e.g. bicycle or wheelchair weels) and standard gear loaded for this kind of situation, or have a grab bag for such purpose.
Done.

66 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 10, 2014 4:46:49pm

re: #64 dog philosopher

what’s all this i hear about illegal aileens?

or is it eileens? irenes?

Plan 9 From Outer Space!

67 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:48:57pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

“on-site” is the operative word. An ambulance is not always right there, and most likely is some distance away already dealing with another call.
I speak from personal experience as an EMT.

The hospital people who make up hospital rules probably have a good idea of the mean response experience. These are educated professionals. Sometimes it doesn’t work, but they had no way to know it wasn’t the best answer.

We had an Army saying: “Regulations are written in blood.”

68 dell*nix  Jul 10, 2014 4:49:11pm

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

And how many friendly, local christian book stores stock materials for Hindu, Wiccan, Buddist or other religion worshipers?

69 Mike Lamb  Jul 10, 2014 4:51:10pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

House Republicans are claiming they are injured by the White House’s refusal to implement a law as written by Congress, despite there being plenty of precedent that the White House’s constitutional power over how a law is implemented give it wide latitude.

But what is the remedy here? Even if it’s some kind of dec action—what are they looking for? A time machine so that he can go back to the original time frame?

70 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 4:52:29pm

re: #68 dell*nix

And how many friendly, local christian book stores stock materials for Hindu, Wiccan, Buddist or other religion worshipers?

HURR HURR THAT’S FREEDUMB U LIBTARD!!!!!!!

71 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:53:00pm

re: #65 Teukka

I’ve seen a similar situation happen outside a an ER here in Stockholm County, Sweden. Two nurses and a gurney those 500m (slightly more than 500yds) there and back. No questions asked.
If anything, special purpose gurney with wheels more appropriate for outdoor use (e.g. bicycle or wheelchair weels) and standard gear loaded for this kind of situation, or have a grab bag for such purpose.
Done.

Play the downside, though. They could be halfway across the meadow with a corpse when the ambulance with defib and oxygen arrives back at the starting line. This is a sad thing, but a nontroversy. That won’t keep the politicians from adding him to Obama’s Death Tally.

72 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 10, 2014 4:53:07pm

re: #67 Decatur Deb

The hospital people who make up hospital rules probably have a good idea of the mean response experience. These are educated professionals. Sometimes it doesn’t work, but they had no way to know it wasn’t the best answer.

We had an Army saying: “Regulations are written in blood.”

Oh, it’s fine. We’ll change it to “Just rush the patient over there on a gurney” and the the next story can be “92 year old vet dies on a gurney on 500 yard trip to ER; standard protocol at other hospitals would have been to use an ambulance” and the policy can get switched back again.

73 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 4:53:39pm

re: #72 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Oh, it’s fine. We’ll change it to “Just rush the patient over there on a gurney” and the the next story can be “92 year old vet dies on a gurney on 500 yard trip to ER; standard protocol at other hospitals would have been to use an ambulance” and the policy can get switched back again.

Precisely.

74 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 4:55:10pm

Judge Rules Florida Legislature Broke Law on Redistricting

nbcmiami.com

“A state judge says Florida’s Legislature illegally drew the state’s congressional districts and has ordered them redrawn.

“Judge Terry Lewis on Thursday found that the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature broke the law when it drew up political maps in 2012. He rejected arguments from top legislative leaders that they had done nothing wrong.

“Lewis’ ruling, however, is not expected to disrupt this year’s elections because the Legislature is expected to appeal the decision.” More

75 Mike Lamb  Jul 10, 2014 4:55:17pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

I know it’s early in the thread to go OT, but I’m gonna call it a night and wanted to leave you guys something positive. Next time you think you’re having a rough day, remember this little guy:

[Embedded content]

Video

Full story here: Englewood toddler takes victory walk after amputations

G’nite, lizards.

Lady behind him…knock it off…he’s got this!!

76 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 4:55:47pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

What do they expect him to do?

What the hell do they expect him to do?

Obama tries to go through Congress:

Filibuster! Obstruction!

Obama tries to get around Congress:

Tyranny! Communism! Dictator!

Again, paraphrased…If I proclaimed Apple Pie American, they’d be against it.

77 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 5:00:57pm

re: #72 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Oh, it’s fine. We’ll change it to “Just rush the patient over there on a gurney” and the the next story can be “92 year old vet dies on a gurney on 500 yard trip to ER; standard protocol at other hospitals would have been to use an ambulance” and the policy can get switched back again.

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Precisely.

OK, I concede.

78 Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2014 5:02:51pm

Hello.
My dad was discharged from the hospital today.
Glad that’s over.
:)

79 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:08:11pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

OK, I concede.

More gracefully than congress, I bet.

80 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 5:09:47pm

re: #78 Varek Raith

Hello.
My dad was discharged from the hospital today.
Glad that’s over.
:)

Good news!!

Having parents at “their age” is quite scary. I lost it when my Mom didn’t answer the phone for 3 hours only to find she was outside drinking wine with the neighbors and left her phone inside. She’s 78.

Nothing compared to dad in the hospital, but I know the horrible feeling.

81 klys  Jul 10, 2014 5:09:55pm

Oh man, I hate fillings. Of the tooth related variety.

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 5:10:24pm

re: #78 Varek Raith

great news!
Did they figure out what caused the bad reaction?

83 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 5:12:52pm

re: #81 klys

Oh man, I hate fillings. Of the tooth related variety.

YOU TWEETED FROM THE CHAIR.

I couldn’t even tweet back. Something bad coulda happened.

84 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:14:24pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

YOU TWEETED FROM THE CHAIR.

I couldn’t even tweet back. Something bad coulda happened.

Live-blogging a root canal? That’s sharing.

85 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 5:14:45pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

YOU TWEETED FROM THE CHAIR.

I couldn’t even tweet back. Something bad coulda happened.

LOL I missed that.

86 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 5:15:07pm

re: #81 klys

Oh man, I hate fillings. Of the tooth related variety.

I was at the dentist today, for a routine cleaning.

87 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:16:05pm

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

I was at the dentist today, for a routine cleaning.

Told ya’ to drink less coffee, didn’t he?

88 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 5:16:47pm

OMG OMG OMG

ANOTHER OBAMA OUTRAGE!!!!

HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY SURVIVE!!!!!

89 klys  Jul 10, 2014 5:18:47pm

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Live-blogging a root canal? That’s sharing.

Not a root canal, just an itty-bitty cavity.

There were periods between each stage where they left me to myself. Like between the drilling and the filling.

Now I am waiting out the fat-lip stage.

90 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:19:09pm

re: #88 Pie-onist Overlord

OMG OMG OMG

ANOTHER OBAMA OUTRAGE!!!!

HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY SURVIVE!!!!!

Open Carry Tarrant County could have stopped that.

91 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 5:20:23pm

I have been retweeted by a McCarthybot.

92 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:21:37pm

re: #89 klys

Not a root canal, just an itty-bitty cavity.

There were periods between each stage where they left me to myself. Like between the drilling and the filling.
Now I am waiting out the don’t-bite-though-your fat-lip stage.

93 Teukka  Jul 10, 2014 5:21:44pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Play the downside, though. They could be halfway across the meadow with a corpse when the ambulance with defib and oxygen arrives back at the starting line. This is a sad thing, but a nontroversy. That won’t keep the politicians from adding him to Obama’s Death Tally.

The “Grab bag” is a hockey trunk with the basic gear of an ambulance, like O2, IV needles, drugs which nurses regularly can give, and other assorted goodies.
I don’t know about the US, but in Swedish ER’s it is standard practise for every section in an ER (ortho, neuro, infection, family med etc) to have such a bag, or a number of generic bags in known location throughout the ER (depends on what model ER they use).
The reason being exactly if they get into the situation where a patient “crashes” near the hospital, either by the accident happening there, or a patient being en route in a car.
I’ve seen it broken out three times in my life, twice when my now late girlfriend going into seizure just in front of the entrance to the ER, and this one time when a guy crashed with his motorbike.
And because of my late girlfriends condition, I’ve spent more time in ER and chatting with ER staff than I really want.
Basically, the reason they have the grab or “crash” bags is when something happens near or inside the hospital, because the two trauma nurses that go out with the bag have an attack time of 5 minutes tops, usually 2 or 3, while an ambulance has an attack time of 10-20 minutes.
Which means that care can begin much faster, and if an ambulance is required for transport into the ER, it will be a Scoop’N’Run gig, because care has already begun.
As to the cases with my late ex? Both times, they had given diazepam to
begin breaking the seizure within a minute.
As to reasons, my guess is either that the operators take their oath dead seriously or they’ve had too many incidents of patients dying close to care.

94 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 5:21:50pm

re: #91 jaunte

I have been retweeted by a McCarthybot.

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He’s been saving that quip.

95 klys  Jul 10, 2014 5:22:26pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Haha, it’s the upper lip and puffing out.

That would a) take talent and b) require eating something. He recommended soft foods. I said if this wasn’t justification for a milkshake for dinner then what was?

96 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 5:23:14pm

re: #91 jaunte

I have been retweeted by a McCarthybot.

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It automatically RT’s any Tweet containing the words “Communist” “Socialist” and “Marxist” maybe also “Stalin” “Lenin” and “Mao”

97 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 5:23:31pm
98 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 5:24:37pm

re: #88 Pie-onist Overlord

OMG OMG OMG

ANOTHER OBAMA OUTRAGE!!!!

HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY SURVIVE!!!!!

Liars! Did he order a brisket or 5?

franklinbarbecue.com

“Traveling? Dip in and grab a fully cooked brisket, chilled and packed for travel. You can skip the line.”

99 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 5:25:25pm

All the horses are wearing human heads today.

100 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 5:26:17pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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And the Secret Service went nuts. : )

101 Killgore Trout  Jul 10, 2014 5:26:31pm

Washington man first to buy legal weed in Spokane is fired after spotted on news

Mike Boyer, 30, was canned Tuesday after waiting 20 hours to buy pot and immediately going home to smoke. He was called up for urine analysis after he was spotted on TV buying the pot. Boyer told The News he ‘regrets nothing.

102 Emoprog Refugee  Jul 10, 2014 5:27:51pm

Didn’t OrangeMan have weeks to come up with a reason to sue? This was the best he could come up with? Delaying the implementation of Obamacare? I think alcohol has been affecting his brain. Even so, you’d think he’d have a bevy of advisers, or at least the other House Republicans to help him with such things. Maybe that’s the problem. Maybe his advisers were Michele Bachmann and Louie Gohmert (no, can’t be; the basis of the suit isn’t insane enough, it’s just petty and silly). Honestly, I was expecting a Benghazziiiieleventy!! related lawsuit. This is just pathetic. Does the OrangeMan have an attorney representing him? Is it Orly Taitz? Or maybe someone he saw advertizing on late-night teevee?

103 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 5:31:51pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Open Carry Tarrant County could have stopped that.

Dude, I was waiting so hard for AF1 wheels up.

Yeah, it was beautiful Austin, but still.

104 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:32:30pm

re: #93 Teukka

The sheer size and wild variety of jurisdictions mean we are all over the spectrum for emergency care. (In fact, the impact of some states’ refusal of ACA/Medicaid insurance has put many ERs in danger of closing. There are only 2 in a 60 km radius of here.)

The most imaginative response I’ve seen were NY City EMT teams who rode small, well-equipped scooters down the sidewalks because of impassible street traffic.

105 Killgore Trout  Jul 10, 2014 5:33:11pm

A Citizens Vew of the Missile Barrage and Iron Dome Interceptions

Liveleak Video

That’s a lot of rockets

106 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 5:33:56pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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They have to peeeeel the wimmins offa him.

107 klys  Jul 10, 2014 5:34:07pm

Oh, I see it’s time for link-dump.

My mouth may be numb but that doesn’t cover passive-aggressive bullshit, so have a cat instead.

108 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:34:22pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

Dude, I was waiting so hard for AF1 wheels up.

Yeah, it was beautiful Austin, but still.

He might be bad-assed enough to visit Dealey Plaza before he leaves office.

109 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 5:34:50pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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The audience is always representative of the US.

Compare to the pasty GOP events.

110 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:39:07pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Washington man first to buy legal weed in Spokane is fired after spotted on news

Non, je ne regrette rien

Youtube Video

111 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 5:40:06pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Non, je ne regrette rien

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Video

Yes, but will he have money for weed now? ///

112 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 5:40:09pm

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday on “Hannity” that President Obama needs to act now to stop the surge in illegal immigrants flooding across his state’s border, calling it “a humanitarian crisis that he has the ability to stop.”

“You know, I was like, Mr. President, you can deal with this. You can unilaterally direct the Department of Defense to put those troops on the border…” he told Fox News, later adding, “The president needs to understand that the single most important thing that he can do is put the National Guard on the border to coordinate with local law”

oh, i forgot - you’re a moron and nobody cares what you say

113 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 5:40:12pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Love love love that.

114 Teukka  Jul 10, 2014 5:40:46pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

The sheer size and wild variety of jurisdictions mean we are all over the spectrum for emergency care. (In fact, the impact of some states’ refusal of ACA Medicaid insurance has put many ERs in danger of closing. There are only 2 in a 60 km radius of here.)

The most imaginative response I’ve seen were NY City EMT teams who rode small, well-equipped scooters down the sidewalks because of impassible street traffic.

*sigh* What is more important than saving human lives (note: rhetorical q)?
London has them too, and I’ve heard of Stockholm County considering them too.
What kind of disaster will it take to cool heads to prevail on the healthcare issue on your side of the pond (note: rhetorical q)? Sheesh.

BTW, the first time I ever heard of the insurance company “Kaiser Permanente” was in a Stockholm ER with my late ex. And not in a good way.

115 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 5:41:01pm

116 Kragar  Jul 10, 2014 5:41:19pm
117 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 5:42:01pm

Apparently the idiot stalkers have a new smear:

These assholes are such fucking liars. My very first post on the subject linked to “Buckhead’s” post at Free Republic and quoted it.

Bush Guard Documents: Forgeries?

A post at FreeRepublic sums up the situation:

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90’s. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn’t used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80’s used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.

Fucking smear artists and liars.

118 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:45:39pm

re: #114 Teukka

*sigh* What is more important than saving human lives (note: rhetorical q)?
…snip.

The GOP leadership has demonstrated it would accept tens of thousands of early deaths (in a quiet, unnoticed, distribution) if it could defeat the President on Obamacare.

119 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 5:46:20pm

re: #112 dog philosopher

“You know, I was like, Mr. President, you can deal with this. You can unilaterally direct the Department of Defense to put those troops on the border…”

That maroon Blake Farenthold was on CSPAN this morning talking about troops on the border, but he never got around to saying exactly what the encounter of troops with minor children from Central America would be, or why he thought the procedure for handling them (signed into law by George Bush) shouldn’t be followed.

120 Killgore Trout  Jul 10, 2014 5:47:40pm

Rutgers professor not surprised by NSA monitoring of his e-mail

“I think the USA security system simply wanted to make sure that what I am doing is right,” Amirahmadi, 66, of Princeton, said Thursday. “And I think that’s not really unusual, I’m not surprised at all.”

“However … I think what they are doing is not right, and they shouldn’t have started,” he said.

He’s being a good sport about it.

121 ObserverArt  Jul 10, 2014 5:47:53pm

re: #112 dog philosopher

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday on “Hannity” that President Obama needs to act now to stop the surge in illegal immigrants flooding across his state’s border, calling it “a humanitarian crisis that he has the ability to stop.”

“You know, I was like, Mr. President, you can deal with this. You can unilaterally direct the Department of Defense to put those troops on the border…” he told Fox News, later adding, “The president needs to understand that the single most important thing that he can do is put the National Guard on the border to coordinate with local law”

oh, i forgot - you’re a moron and nobody cares what you say

Wouldn’t that be awful empirical, lawless and dictatory…he is asking for the President to just do it with a unilateral direction?

///

122 Killgore Trout  Jul 10, 2014 5:48:36pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Non, je ne regrette rien

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Video

Is that the song from Saving Private Ryan?

123 Teukka  Jul 10, 2014 5:48:39pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

The GOP leadership has demonstrated it would accept tens of thousands of early deaths (in a quiet, unnoticed, distribution) if it could defeat the President on Obamacare.

I know, they be exporting their tripe to our side of the pond :(
“HURR! DURR! It is them librull fasist maxist that are a danger! HURR! DURR!”

124 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 5:49:15pm

They’re constantly doing this - contacting people I communicate with on Twitter and spreading lies. These people are disgusting.

125 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 5:49:31pm
126 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 5:50:33pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

They’re constantly doing this - contacting people I communicate with on Twitter and spreading lies. These people are disgusting.

Every once in a while somebody that I haven’t already blocked pops up in my time line.

127 Kragar  Jul 10, 2014 5:50:43pm
128 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 5:51:50pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Is that the song from Saving Private Ryan?

No, this is:

Youtube Video

129 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 5:51:56pm
130 wrenchwench  Jul 10, 2014 5:53:28pm

Later, lizards.

131 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 5:57:42pm

132 klys  Jul 10, 2014 5:58:18pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

Now we’ve got you doing it too!

133 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 5:59:00pm

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Steve Israel in response to Republican’s resolution to sue President Obama: ‘They’re spending millions more to sue the president over ACA. Is there any question why a Congress that continues to force middle class families to foot the bill for their political stunts is the least popular in history’ - via @NBCNews
End of alert

134 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 5:59:31pm

re: #122 Killgore Trout

Is that the song from Saving Private Ryan?

JAH got it, I think. A group of children sang this in it:

Youtube Video

135 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 6:00:01pm

re: #129 jaunte

I will be answering questions about border security in 10 minutes. Ask yours here

yes, um, ok:

republicans are always saying that we have to seal the border before any other action can be taken on immigration

so where the hell is the bill coming out of the house that funds building the damn fence or wall or whatever the hell it’s supposed to be already?

136 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 6:02:36pm

137 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 6:02:46pm

re: #129 jaunte

I will be answering questions about border security in 10 minutes. Ask yours here:

“Do you know how long a mile is?”
“Can you multiply and divide?”

138 Killgore Trout  Jul 10, 2014 6:02:47pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

No, this is:

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Video

Ah, that’s it

139 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:02:51pm
140 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 6:04:02pm

Damn it.

Sirens reportedly sound across Haifa, signaling rocket attack in one of biggest cities in northern Israel - @IDFSpokesperson
End of alert

141 Kragar  Jul 10, 2014 6:05:27pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

“Do you know how long a mile is?”
“Can you multiply and divide?”

“How are you going to keep those militia twits in check?”

142 Kragar  Jul 10, 2014 6:06:39pm
143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 6:07:19pm
144 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:11:01pm
145 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 6:14:54pm
146 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:15:32pm
147 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 6:18:43pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Dim Jim.

148 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 6:21:04pm

What a stupid fucking tool

WORST. ANTI-SEMITE. EVER.

149 Justanotherhuman  Jul 10, 2014 6:24:36pm

Have a great rest of the evening.

Later, Lizards!

150 klys  Jul 10, 2014 6:25:21pm

Possible best Mythbusters tweet ever. (They are live-tweeting the new season start, east coast time.)

151 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:32:29pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

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Dim Jim.

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There’s so much idiocy radiating from that photo, it’s dangerous to look at it for too long.

152 Killgore Trout  Jul 10, 2014 6:32:41pm

How we talk about politics is infecting how we talk about culture

We treat people whose interpretations differ from our own as if they are acting in bad faith. We focus on gaffes and supposed gaffes. And we demand that significant figures in cultural commentary have something to say about every big event so we can check their reactions against our sense of what they ought to feel to remain in good standing.
…
But in discussing big issues, art’s advantage is that it is so different from politics. Art does not need to align with partisan conventions. It can lend moral clarity to the limitations we have accepted on our politics. And speculative fiction can pose scenarios and propose solutions that are liberated from what is actually politically possible. It can hold multiple, even contradictory, ideas in place simultaneously.

I cannot help but wonder if we would enjoy ourselves more and do greater honor to the art we loved so much if we accepted that the conventions of our conversations about art can reflect that same difference.

153 nsmith25  Jul 10, 2014 6:33:14pm

My wife saw one of the Rolling Coal trucks today. Put out the exhaust at the light, left everyone there in a cloud of black smoke for 3-4 sec.

Douchebag

154 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 10, 2014 6:34:16pm

these Republicans can’t help but cut their own nose off to spite the face. Don’t they realize that any precedence set in this regard can be used against a potential Republican President? Or does their rabid hatred only make them think in 2 week news cycles?

155 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:34:25pm

156 Varek Raith  Jul 10, 2014 6:36:15pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

great news!
Did they figure out what caused the bad reaction?

The combination of anesthesia and him lying flat cause fluid in his lungs.

157 Tor  Jul 10, 2014 6:36:18pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 6:38:46pm

re: #156 Varek Raith

The combination of anesthesia and him lying flat cause fluid in his lungs.

whew! Glad it was a good outcome.

159 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 6:42:48pm

Republicans Have Unveiled Their Solution To The ‘Highway Shutdown,’ And Conservatives Already Hate It

Maybe they can agree in good faith that nobody gains from a broken highway system.

160 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 6:45:56pm

re: #159 jaunte

Republicans Have Unveiled Their Solution To The ‘Highway Shutdown,’ And Conservatives Already Hate It

HURR HURR!!!!! IT’S SLAVERY TO FORCE TEH MOST RICHEST TO PAY FOR TEH ROADS!!!!!

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 6:47:48pm
162 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:47:55pm

163 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 6:48:28pm

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! IT’S SLAVERY TO FORCE TEH MOST RICHEST TO PAY FOR TEH ROADS!!!!!
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yes, thank you ayn, but i pay taxes so it’s my fucking money and i told the government i want them to build the fucking hospitals and roads with it ok?

164 Lidane  Jul 10, 2014 6:49:30pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

So after 50+ votes to repeal the law, they’re now suing the White House for not implementing it fast enough.

It’s comedy that writes itself.

Seriously. THIS is the hill the GOP have chosen to die on? Suing POTUS for not immediately implementing a law they’ve been trying to repeal? Really?

165 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 6:52:32pm
166 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 6:53:12pm
167 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 10, 2014 6:53:54pm

No dipshit, SCOTUS says your boss doesn’t have to give you something YOU ALREADY PAID FOR.

168 Gus  Jul 10, 2014 6:53:57pm
169 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 6:55:13pm

It doesn’t take a prophet to know that the sick freaks who stalk me on Twitter will be very worked up by my tweets today about the Rathergate documents.

170 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 6:55:58pm

Rep. Joaquin Castro, a Texas Democrat from San Antonio, was less than impressed by Perry’s performance at the hearing or with the governor in general.

“The border is a boogeyman for Rick Perry. And its been helpful to try out that boogeyman the last several years around campaign time,” Castro said. “He’s running for president and so he’s doing it again.”

171 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 7:02:48pm

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

Sorry, but the dress and the hair seem so WRONG.

172 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 7:05:19pm

Pollsters working for Ted Cruz followed me for some reason.

173 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 10, 2014 7:06:14pm

Hey Lizards,

I am in a fantastic mood this evening. I just scored a HELL of a deal on some camera equipment from a guy on the Scuba Forum I’m on. 2 Olympus PEN E-PL1 (micro 4/3) 12 Megapixel bodies, a kit 14-28 lens, the official Olympus underwater housing, chargers, extra batteries and some other accessories. All for 500 bucks. Cameras both have very low shutter counts, the housing is first quality, it’s a hell of a deal. Still going to have to spend about 250 for a decent U/W flash (unless I can score one used), but it’s a great setup for me to get into mirrorless cameras and U/W photography.

Considering that the equivalent model housing for the newer OLY 4/3 camera (and its very much the same thing) alone is over 500 bucks…. all I can say is that I’m feeling pretty damn good right now.

I’m still not taking a camera down for quite a while, my plan is to get more solid in my diving skills before I start to add additional complex tasks, but it’s a great deal.

RBS

174 teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2014 7:18:19pm

Hometown hero - Olympic Gold Medalist Mikaela Shiffrin - at Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me at Red Rocks tonight, a National Public Radio thing. She’s a libtard sosholist!

175 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 7:19:10pm
176 dog philosopher  Jul 10, 2014 7:19:37pm

rainbow unicorn political theory of firebaggers:

The Democratic Party will not listen to a single constituency of its
base unless said members withdraw their support, votes and cash, and require that the Dems win them back

yah that oughtta work real good

177 Skip Intro  Jul 10, 2014 7:20:13pm

re: #112 dog philosopher

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday on “Hannity” that President Obama needs to act now to stop the surge in illegal immigrants flooding across his state’s border, calling it “a humanitarian crisis that he has the ability to stop.”

“You know, I was like, Mr. President, you can deal with this. You can unilaterally direct the Department of Defense to put those troops on the border…” he told Fox News, later adding, “The president needs to understand that the single most important thing that he can do is put the National Guard on the border to coordinate with local law”

oh, i forgot - you’re a moron and nobody cares what you say

Back when Bush the Lesser was pres, you heard people saying this but it was a wingnut suggestion from the far, far right, totally ignored by the GOP. Now it’s mainstream GOP policy.

178 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 7:21:14pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Seen on FB today:

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 7:22:31pm

Waiting for someone to come up with @RickPerryGlasses on teh twitterz

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 10, 2014 7:22:56pm

re: #173 RealityBasedSteve

The E-PL1 is a great little camera - it’s what I have - and the best thing about it is that with adapters you can use just about every type of lens ever made on it. I’m currently using a Canon FD 50/1.8 manual focus as a 100 equivalent and loving it. Lots of cheap old lenses out there to play with :D

181 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 7:25:54pm
182 Blue Fielder  Jul 10, 2014 7:26:36pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exists: @RPerryGlasses

183 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 7:27:11pm

In a Freep thread on the TP/GOP Mississippi infighting, a McDaniel partisan just called Cochran’s operatives klansmen.

” Joe Nosef is Haley Barbour’s lawyer.
Mississippi Night Riders with their sheets
will destroy anyone who do not submit.”

This crap is getting craptacular.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 7:29:55pm

re: #182 Blue Fielder

Exists: @RPerryGlasses

Only two tweets and they are very old.
Kinda like Perry…

185 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 7:31:18pm

re: #182 Blue Fielder

Exists: @RPerryGlasses

Not funny yet. :(

186 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 7:32:05pm
187 b_sharp  Jul 10, 2014 7:32:27pm

Is the US Congress the world’s most lucrative make work project?

188 teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2014 7:33:15pm

WHOOPS indeed!

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 10, 2014 7:36:18pm

Time to catch that midnight train to sleep…

laters…

190 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 10, 2014 7:36:55pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

What will it take for @twitter to realize that their brand is being damaged by stalkers?

People leaving in droves. Same thing it always takes.

191 Stanley Sea  Jul 10, 2014 7:42:18pm
192 teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2014 7:43:34pm
193 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 7:44:43pm

“How cold do you have to be to use children in this way?” she asked.

194 Lidane  Jul 10, 2014 7:46:37pm
195 lawhawk  Jul 10, 2014 7:49:14pm

Look, I get that a bill passed by Congress and signed into law by the President should be enforced as written. But this Congress - the GOP in particular - has opposed the law at every opportunity, and now they’re suing to make the President carry out the law as written.

The same law they’ve sought to repeal 50+ times. The same provisions they claim would adversely affect the public. The same provisions that they were calling for delays for because they claimed it would harm corporations.

Yet, by the time the suit is heard (and after the inevitable appeals), these provisions will be in force since the President only delayed the implementation.

They hope no one was paying attention and now they’re hoping to pivot to this?

This is what they’re hoping will be a winning issue?

196 teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2014 7:50:29pm

in re #192

I remember it pretty vividly. Snowden had just come out as a whistleblower traitor. I posted a LGF article criticizing the Mighty G and Snowjob. I even posted some tweets with no links that said plainly that I thought Snowden was a traitor to his country. Later that night I log into Twitter and I had something on the order of 30 notifications. I was stunned to see all these random Twitter accounts (none of which used real names) calling me all sorts of nasty names and saying I’m part of the problem and how dare I criticize such heroes to America. It sucked, took me probably an hour to go through, block and report most these nut jobs. And that’s the thing, most of them still tweet to this day, and they harass people that don’t toe the Greensnow line.

197 Lidane  Jul 10, 2014 7:51:44pm
198 piratedan  Jul 10, 2014 7:52:03pm

re: #192 teleskiguy

It’s standard tactical political warfare, own the media, own the message, control the framing, control the context.

It’s a good reason why progressive ideas get shunted off into the corners and are rarely discussed in the mainstream media.

case in point, how often did you see the budgetary proposal of the progressive congressional caucus used as a discussion point ANYWHERE? Perhaps that’s just ignorance on my part, but none of the places I frequent for engaging political discussion had more than a message or note that it was out there.

199 Interesting Times  Jul 10, 2014 7:52:10pm

re: #195 lawhawk

This is what they’re hoping will be a winning issue?

You would think with all their billions, the kochs could afford to buy them a more effective (or at least better-looking) strategy. Maybe they really are “smoking their own stash”, so to speak.

200 Decatur Deb  Jul 10, 2014 7:53:29pm

re: #195 lawhawk

Look, I get that a bill passed by Congress and signed into law by the President should be enforced as written. But this Congress - the GOP in particular - has opposed the law at every opportunity, and now they’re suing to make the President carry out the law as written.

The same law they’ve sought to repeal 50+ times. The same provisions they claim would adversely affect the public. The same provisions that they were calling for delays for because they claimed it would harm corporations.

Yet, by the time the suit is heard (and after the inevitable appeals), these provisions will be in force since the President only delayed the implementation.

They hope no one was paying attention and now they’re hoping to pivot to this?

This is what they’re hoping will be a winning issue?

Gotta keep the rubes’ attention.

201 piratedan  Jul 10, 2014 7:54:35pm

re: #195 lawhawk

follow the money is still a good investigative practice, what media organizations made the ads, who pays their salaries?

202 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2014 7:57:09pm

re: #9 Bubblehead II

I really think this is their last hope at getting rid of the ACA. They truly believe this last bit will ruin companies, and therefore the economy. They see the ACA actually helping people, and a good majority actually liking their coverage. By forcing (not really) the Presudent to implement this part, it’ll turn the momentum backwards. That’s why they want it to go into effect. This is their last ditch effort.

But in reality where the rest of us exist, their idea of doom won’t happen, and the President is now openly mocking them. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

203 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 10, 2014 7:58:42pm

And so once more into the night. Have a good evening folks and we’ll see you later.

204 prairiefire  Jul 10, 2014 8:08:01pm

Great news about Varek’s dad! My mom got through her surgery fine and no internal cancer, just a cyst. Her lymphoma is “just” skin lymphoma as well. Much better. We are all relieved and very thankful.

205 Gus  Jul 10, 2014 8:21:43pm
206 Lidane  Jul 10, 2014 8:34:06pm

BILLIONS AND BILLIONS!

207 teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2014 8:34:15pm

LIBTARD CIRCLE JERK

208 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 8:36:39pm

At 14, with his parents dead, Gutierrez followed the path of 700,000 of his countrymen to California. He made the 2,000-mile journey from his Guatemala City neighborhood without entry papers. He hopped 14 freight trains to get through Mexico. U.S. immigration authorities detained him.

Fernando Castillo, Guatemala’s consul general in Los Angeles, says the United States doesn’t deport Guatemalan minors who arrive without family. Gutierrez was made a ward of Los Angeles Juvenile Court. He was placed in a series of group homes and foster families. He learned English and finished high school.

When he reached 18, he got residency documents, Castillo said.

209 Charles Johnson  Jul 10, 2014 8:41:47pm
210 Amory Blaine  Jul 10, 2014 8:44:16pm

Scott Walker, J.B. Van Hollen appeal gay marriage ruling

Gov. Scott Walker and Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen on Thursday appealed a decision from last month that struck down Wisconsin’s ban on same-sex marriage.

The two Republicans filed a two-page notice of appeal that will soon be followed up with a full brief explaining their legal arguments.

U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb in June found the state’s gay marriage ban violated the U.S. Constitution, but she stayed her order so Van Hollen and Walker could pursue an appeal.

Thursday’s filing puts the case before the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago. It comes amid a wave of court rulings across the nation striking down state bans on same-sex marriage. The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to ultimately determine whether gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry.

211 Amory Blaine  Jul 10, 2014 8:51:25pm

re: #205 Gus

Mount Douchemore.

212 Amory Blaine  Jul 10, 2014 8:55:37pm

My sister-in-law is recovering on my couch from a stent surgery today. Seems like it went well, she’s in the living room laughing her butt off with my wife.

213 Interesting Times  Jul 10, 2014 8:58:28pm

re: #212 Amory Blaine

My sister-in-law is recovering on my couch

That reminds me - were you ever able to clean/repair the leather couch that got pissed on by your drunken wingnut relative? (thus making the couch a perfect metaphor for America at the mercy of the GOP House, but I digress…)

214 Amory Blaine  Jul 10, 2014 9:01:16pm

re: #213 Interesting Times

Ha! Yes it seemed to clean up ok, washed the down and the leather didn’t stain. Thanks for asking. :)

215 jaunte  Jul 10, 2014 9:09:04pm
216 Bubblehead II  Jul 10, 2014 9:14:25pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Washington man first to buy legal weed in Spokane is fired after spotted on news

Might be legal in the State, but still illegal under Federal law. Which is why States legalizing pot are actually putting their residents in harms way. While the State might say it’s fine for you to grow or posses pot. The Feds says otherwise and an over zealous Federal Prosecutor can and probably will charge you for possession and or production.

217 Bubblehead II  Jul 10, 2014 9:28:09pm

re: #205 Gus

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I really do hope you are tweeting these shops to the individuals you are mocking.

218 Gus  Jul 10, 2014 9:32:24pm

I better get horizontal. ‘Night.

219 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 10, 2014 9:44:38pm

re: #212 Amory Blaine

My sister-in-law is recovering on my couch from a stent surgery today. Seems like it went well, she’s in the living room laughing her butt off with my wife.

BTW… they ARE laughing about you.

RBS
Just thought you should know.

220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 10, 2014 9:52:31pm

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

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A true racist falsely complains about racism? Reminds me of a certain Russian president…

221 Mike Lamb  Jul 10, 2014 10:20:47pm

re: #160 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! IT’S SLAVERY TO FORCE TEH MOST RICHEST TO PAY FOR TEH ROADS!!!!!
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Then don’t use the fucking highways, airports, trains etc. That quote is patent bullshit. I can’t say that I’ve really considered what Ayn Rand has said, but she’s clearly a fucking nitwit.

222 Mike Lamb  Jul 10, 2014 10:29:54pm

re: #195 lawhawk

Look, I get that a bill passed by Congress and signed into law by the President should be enforced as written. But this Congress - the GOP in particular - has opposed the law at every opportunity, and now they’re suing to make the President carry out the law as written.

The same law they’ve sought to repeal 50+ times. The same provisions they claim would adversely affect the public. The same provisions that they were calling for delays for because they claimed it would harm corporations.

Yet, by the time the suit is heard (and after the inevitable appeals), these provisions will be in force since the President only delayed the implementation.

They hope no one was paying attention and now they’re hoping to pivot to this?

This is what they’re hoping will be a winning issue?

I suspect that they think winning the suit will force Obama to implement the law immediately, which, in turn, will cause the list of horribles to come to fruition. In other words, the upshot of the suit is to inflict as much pain as possible for political gain.


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