“Weird Al” Yankovic Pokes Fun at the Prison Planet Dopes: Foil

World domination, black helicopters and food wrappings
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I’ve never really understood why he’s supposed to be “Weird” Al — he’s not really that weird. Funny, sure, but weird? Captain Beefheart was weird; honestly, deeply weird. The Captain couldn’t be anything but weird. Al, on the other hand, does parodies of pop songs, usually involving food.

Nonetheless, this is a great new video that pokes fun at the Alex Jones crowd, so let’s lighten the mood a little after this heinous day, shall we?

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412 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 5:23:50pm
2 Ian G.  Jul 17, 2014 5:32:49pm

Well, before I sign off for the weekend, I want to suggest that if the Russians shooting down KAL 007 wasn’t enough to start a war, then the shoot-down of MH17 isn’t going to cause a war either. As horrific as the latter is, it was likely a mistake. The Russians (or separatists, whoever) probably thought it was another Ukrainian military transport.

In the case of KAL 007, all evidence suggests the Soviets knew exactly what it was that they were shooting down.

3 ausador  Jul 17, 2014 5:41:13pm

Lighten the mood? OK, this might take you back to “easier” times…

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4 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 17, 2014 5:42:17pm

Saw Johnny Winter as the opening act for George Thorogood in Pittsburgh back in 1984 or so. Unfortunately have to say that at that age I was relatively unappreciative of what I was hearing.

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 5:45:50pm
6 Kid A  Jul 17, 2014 5:47:59pm

My mood is about get lightened and alcohol induced. On the runway taking off for a bachelor party in Vegas. Adios, Lizards!

7 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 5:49:12pm
8 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 5:50:12pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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BWAHAHAHAHA!

9 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 5:51:53pm

re: #6 Kid A

My mood is about get lightened and alcohol induced. On the runway taking off for a bachelor party in Vegas. Adios, Lizards!

BEHAVE

10 ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2014 5:51:58pm

I was relaxing playing my guitar a bit and saw Charles put this up.

I had to add to the memorial to Johnny…off the album that really turned me on to Johnny Winter and with assistance from Ohio’s own Rick Derringer.

It’s My Own Fault from Johnny Winter And Live. Enjoy some blues with some matching twin leads to go with it all!

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11 dog philosopher  Jul 17, 2014 5:52:26pm

curses - foiled again!

12 ausador  Jul 17, 2014 5:52:28pm

Good advice from Doris Day…

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13 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 5:52:37pm

re: #6 Kid A

Best of luck; try to keep all your teeth.

14 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 5:52:40pm
15 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 5:52:44pm

My salmon is almost done. nom.

16 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 17, 2014 5:52:52pm

masterorganicchemistry.com

Better chemistry via cats!

:)

17 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 5:56:02pm
18 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 5:57:17pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

My salmon is almost done. nom.

You cook it? For shame!

19 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 5:57:59pm

You’re misguided, dude, but whatevs!

Deep thoughts.

20 ausador  Jul 17, 2014 5:58:26pm

re: #18 GlutenFreeJesus

You cook it? For shame!

Gollum does not approve…

21 The War TARDIS  Jul 17, 2014 5:58:29pm

Changed the Profile picture to the flag of the Dutch.

Felt I should considering the terrible days they are having, and it is where the Plurality of my ancestry comes from.

22 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 5:58:48pm
23 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 5:59:00pm

DIM JIM DERPS AGAIN

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:00:07pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Eddie has that “dudebro face” about perfect now.

25 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:00:24pm

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

DIM JIM DERPS AGAIN

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Wow. He really is the dumbest man on the Internet, isn’t he. Holy crap.

26 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:00:52pm

Just pop a trilby on his head and he’s good to go.

27 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:02:02pm

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t understand how lying to get interviewed on the air during a tragic airliner shoot-down is “epic” or even mildly amusing. It’s just lying.
Hoft as usual lives up to his reputation.

28 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:02:43pm
29 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:03:29pm

re: #28 Pie-onist Overlord

Because Real Men (tm) engage in dangerous brinksmanship with powers that have the ability to wipe out the entire Western Hemisphere.

30 wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2014 6:03:47pm

re: #21 The War TARDIS

Changed the Profile picture to the flag of the Dutch.

Felt I should considering the terrible days they are having, and it is where the Plurality of my ancestry comes from.

The plurality of your ancestry is meaningless.

What you do with the DNA you ended up with is all that counts.

31 Ian G.  Jul 17, 2014 6:08:49pm

re: #28 Pie-onist Overlord

1983 wasn’t a particularly good year for Ronaldus Mangnus. Forced to withdraw from Lebanon after losing 241 Marines to Hezbollah. KAL 007 shot down and not a damn thing he could do about it. Obama would have been impeached had he presided over either one.

Oh well, at least he got to kick the shit out of a tiny Caribbean nation as a consolation prize.

32 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:09:06pm

WTFITS
NO YOU ASSTARD. BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ADVANCED ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING OCEAN.
TEH STUPIDS IS SO STRONG. TEH STUPIDS IS WINNING.

33 wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2014 6:10:09pm

Later, lizards.

34 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:10:18pm

re: #32 Pie-onist Overlord

I saw that go by earlier today and just had to put my head down on the desk for a minute.

35 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:11:30pm

The cavalcade of bad news continued unabated.

36 Blue Fielder  Jul 17, 2014 6:12:17pm

Bought Al’s new album, in actual, comes-in-a-case physical form (gasp!) on Tuesday. It’s pretty much all I’ve listened to since. It’s even the first album I’ve put on my phone.

“Word Crimes” might well be my new Al favorite: It’s brilliantly smart, funny, useful in discussions, and it even defuses one of the worst tracks to come out of popular music since… well, I’m not sure what.

37 ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2014 6:13:04pm

re: #34 jaunte

I saw that go by earlier today and just had to put my head down on the desk for a minute.

At least you still have a desk. Pie-onist Overlord threw all hers and a bunch of others out the window the last couple days!

No more desks for her! Only pies.

38 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:13:30pm

re: #37 ObserverArt

At least you still have a desk. Pie-onist Overlord threw all hers and a bunch of others out the window the last couple days!

No more desks for her! Only pies.

Then she had the audacity to burn them all. The nerve!

39 goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2014 6:16:19pm

LOL, Fox News tard fight.

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40 Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2014 6:18:25pm

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

Eddie has that “dudebro face” about perfect now.
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Once again, I think he really needs a good night’s sleep.

But I know from experience that it’s hard to sleep when the only thought going through your head is, “How the fuck do I get out of this situation?”

41 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 6:19:56pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Fox News tard fight.

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Video

Needs moar broken beer bottles.

42 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 6:20:30pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Fox News tard fight.

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How quickly they turned on Putin. Need to look up all of their previous praise.

43 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:20:37pm

Tin foil for everyone!

44 Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2014 6:20:39pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

People actually watch that shit?

45 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:21:15pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Needs moar broken beer bottles.

They need to dub in a Jerry Springer Show crowd cheering lustily in the background.

46 Skip Intro  Jul 17, 2014 6:21:39pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

How quickly they turned on Putin. Need to look up all of their previous praise.

I thought they wanted to run Pooty Poot for President a couple of months ago.

47 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:21:56pm

re: #45 thedopefishlives

They need to dub in a Jerry Springer Show crowd cheering lustily in the background.

With randomly thrown chairs.

48 Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2014 6:22:35pm

re: #46 Skip Intro

I thought they wanted to run Pooty Poot for President a couple of months ago.

That was then, this is now.

49 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:23:20pm

re: #48 Romantic Heretic

A couple of months ago he was a “mastermind.”

50 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:23:27pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Needs moar broken beer bottles.

re: #45 thedopefishlives

They need to dub in a Jerry Springer Show crowd cheering lustily in the background.

re: #47 Varek Raith

With randomly thrown chairs.

With added Weird Al!

Youtube Video

51 ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2014 6:24:29pm

re: #47 Varek Raith

With randomly thrown chairs.

And over-turned desks! Never forget the overturning of desks.

52 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:25:11pm

re: #51 ObserverArt

And over-turned desks! Never forget the overturning of desks.

I dunno. Personally, the ol’ Ballmer is more gratifying (and appropriate). Either that or going full Office Space.

53 TedStriker  Jul 17, 2014 6:28:03pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Fox News tard fight.

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re: #41 Decatur Deb

Needs moar broken beer bottles.

re: #42 Stanley Sea

How quickly they turned on Putin. Need to look up all of their previous praise.

re: #48 Romantic Heretic

That was then, this is now.

re: #49 jaunte

A couple of months ago he was a “mastermind.”

It’s one of the “conservative”/”libertarian” truisms: What have you done for me lately?

54 dog philosopher  Jul 17, 2014 6:28:19pm

shot-down airplane

so do we know yet Why This Is Obama’s Fault?

55 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:28:56pm

re: #54 dog philosopher

“emboldening”
“weakness”
“dilatory”

56 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:29:06pm

re: #54 dog philosopher

shot-down airplane

so do we know yet Why This Is Obama’s Fault?

Because reasons.

57 ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2014 6:29:26pm

re: #54 dog philosopher

shot-down airplane

so do we know yet Why This Is Obama’s Fault?

Yes. Because he’s Obama.

/ not too much though…

58 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:32:37pm

Hopefully, if all goes to plan and the weather cooperates, I’ll be climbing this mountain next week. I climbed it in college, but that was a long time ago. I’m taking a friend who wants a taste of what the harder 14ers are like.

Mt. Sneffels, San Juan Mountains, Colorado

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59 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:32:59pm

re: #40 Romantic Heretic

Once again, I think he really needs a good night’s sleep.

But I know from experience that it’s hard to sleep when the only thought going through your head is, “How the fuck do I get out of this situation?”

He still thinks he can get out? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

60 dog philosopher  Jul 17, 2014 6:33:41pm

fastboot flash rides again!

armed with his trusty bootloader, the rapid visual phenomenon comes to the rescue…

61 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:33:58pm

re: #60 dog philosopher

fastboot flash rides again!

armed with his trusty bootloader, the rapid visual phenomenon comes to the rescue…

Lol.

62 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:34:21pm

The world is so random, it totally would not surprise me if this turned out to be HEY VONYA HOLD MY VODKA AND WATCH THIS!!! moment.

Not joking, that’s probably what happened.

63 ObserverArt  Jul 17, 2014 6:34:53pm

And now it’s time to bang the drums up a bit. Good evening all.

And thanks Charles for a little port in the storms.

64 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:36:19pm

re: #62 Pie-onist Overlord

The world is so random, it totally would not surprise me if this turned out to be HEY VONYA HOLD MY VODKA AND WATCH THIS!!! moment.

Not joking, that’s probably what happened.

I mentioned downstairs a couple of threads, it had all the hallmarks of the pro-Russian crowd getting ahold of a new toy and itching to play with it. MH17 just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

65 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:36:26pm

That Getty Images picture I embedded in #58 isn’t showing up in my browser (Chrome). Can the lizards see the image? Did I do something wrong?

66 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 17, 2014 6:36:31pm

I have figured out how I’m going to make my fortune, and it’s right here on LGF!

Coming soon, RBS Branded Balsa wood desks, pre-impregnated with Lighter fluid. Easy to flip, no strain on your back throwing them out the window, and they burn with a single match. Available in Modern, Traditional and Pigeon Hole style.

RBS

67 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 6:37:15pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

That Getty Images picture I embedded in #58 isn’t showing up in my browser (Chrome). Can the lizards see the image? Did I do something wrong?

It works if you click the link inside the frame. Bad mountain.

68 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:37:31pm

WTF.
thedailybanter.com

69 goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2014 6:37:32pm

This is how I roll.

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70 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:39:31pm

I made this graphic in 2006 and now it’s all over Teh Internets. Looks like they Photoshopped off my watermark. Oh well.

71 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:39:54pm

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Bad mountain.

On a clear day you can see this mountain from Grand Junction, over a hundred miles to the north. It’s in the San Juan Mountains, the best mountain range in Colorado.

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:40:27pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

WTF.
thedailybanter.com

There was no “Palestinian Land” in 1947, it was all part of the British Mandate.

73 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:41:00pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

It’s a beautiful spot. I’ve been hiking up there, getting off the train halfway between Durango & Silverton.

74 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:41:30pm

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

There was no “Palestinian Land” in 1947, it was all part of the British Mandate.

This knee jerk reaction on the left always annoys me. It’s like the don’t even care to learn why things are like that.

75 jamesfirecat  Jul 17, 2014 6:41:50pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

With added Weird Al!

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Ahem!
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76 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:42:02pm

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

There was no “Palestinian Land” in 1947, it was all part of the British Mandate.

Come on, now. We mustn’t let facts get in the way of a good outrage.

77 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:42:44pm

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

‘Dukesirius’ in the comments does a good job with the history:

“The first image is Mandatory Palestine, which as I’ve mentioned in previous comments was created with an explicit mandate to create a Jewish state within it. Whatever other bullshit you want to throw at the wall, that’s a fact.

The second image shows the partition line that the Jews accepted and the Arabs rejected right before Israel declared Independence and the Arab nations attacked.

The third is where that dispute was settled. Israel probably could have just seized literally the entire country in the war, but they didn’t. Those borders are the rightful borders of Israel.

That last image shows the territory where Israel has security forces after the Oslo Agreement. They are there to ensure the security of Israel, and have wound up being the security forces for the settlers as well, which as I’ve mentioned previously is fucked up. Let’s not pretend that these security forces are there for no reason, as there’s been an enormous drop in suicide bombings since the security occupation. I agree that they need to exit expeditiously, but they’re there for a reason.”

78 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 6:43:57pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

That Getty Images picture I embedded in #58 isn’t showing up in my browser (Chrome). Can the lizards see the image? Did I do something wrong?

Getty Images has apparently been messing around with their embedding code again. I’ll investigate, but probably not tonight.

79 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:44:09pm

re: #76 thedopefishlives

Come on, now. We mustn’t let facts get in the way of a good outrage.

Why don’t they show Trans-Jordan, which Churchill just lopped off and gave to the Hashemite, because the British gave away THEIR land to the Saud tribe.

80 thedopefishlives  Jul 17, 2014 6:44:36pm

Alright, gentle lizardfolk. I’ve been hanging out with you guys all day (and I’ll probably be around most of the day tomorrow, too; this is what happens when they stop giving you actual work to do). Have a good night, and never fear - it may be the end of the world as we know it, but I do feel fine.

81 Lidane  Jul 17, 2014 6:45:35pm

re: #36 Blue Fielder

“Word Crimes” might well be my new Al favorite: It’s brilliantly smart, funny, useful in discussions, and it even defuses one of the worst tracks to come out of popular music since… well, I’m not sure what.

Oh definitely. He also takes a subtle swipe at Alanis in the video when they compare Irony to Coincidence:

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I love this video. Funny stuff. And it redeems that shitty Robin Thicke song. Haha.

82 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:45:55pm

WHAT DO I DO, I’M ALL OUT OF DESKS.
*SETS HAIR ON FIRE*

83 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:46:09pm

Man, I usually like Ben’s articles, but damn, he’s clueless on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
Sigh.

84 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 6:47:06pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

This is how I roll.

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You’ll definitely get your mate that way.

85 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 6:49:05pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Getty Images has apparently been messing around with their embedding code again. I’ll investigate, but probably not tonight.

What’s for dinner Charles? Been a busy day.

86 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:49:42pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

What’s for dinner Charles? Been a busy day.

I had turkey burger with mac and cheese and green beans.
Yum.

87 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 6:50:15pm

I had salmon with yellow rice. Huge pile left for lunch tomorrow.

88 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:50:42pm

re: #73 jaunte

It’s a beautiful spot. I’ve been hiking up there, getting off the train halfway between Durango & Silverton.

Chicago Basin! I’ve never been, it’s on my bucket list for sure. Did some backpacking in the North Needle Mountains right outside of Silverton. Tears-in-your-eyes beauty, for sure (and I was born and raised in these parts!).

89 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:51:09pm

re: #87 Stanley Sea

I had salmon with yellow rice. Huge pile left for lunch tomorrow.

We need some pie…
Wonder who we should ask for some…

90 Killgore Trout  Jul 17, 2014 6:53:11pm

re: #83 Varek Raith

Man, I usually like Ben’s articles, but damn, he’s clueless on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
Sigh.

It shouldn’t be surprising. Looks like generic progressive/leftist take on the issue. It’s wrong but a very common version of the situation.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:53:43pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

We need some pie…
Wonder who we should ask for some…

I decided to make an Apple Bundt Cake, because I got this funky new cake pan.

92 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 6:53:48pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

We need some pie…
Wonder who we should ask for some…

My cupboard is completely sweet free. I’m gonna die.

93 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 6:53:58pm

TWEETSTORM!

94 The War TARDIS  Jul 17, 2014 6:54:12pm

re: #79 Pie-onist Overlord

So, what do you want to have happen to the Arabs of Israel and Palestine then?

I have a Palestinian friend, and a survivor of Sabra and Shatila for an Imam.

95 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 6:54:50pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

I decided to make an Apple Bundt Cake, because I got this funky new cake pan.

Funky indeed. Neat.

re: #92 Stanley Sea

My cupboard is completely sweet free. I’m gonna die.

I have…a packet of hot chocolate. That’s it. :/

96 Killgore Trout  Jul 17, 2014 6:55:18pm

Remember Putin’s pivot towards Asia a few months ago?
Russian Reliance on Chinese Loans May Blunt the Impact of U.S. Sanctions

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:55:40pm

Trolling for registrations on Twitter? Or is this a honey trap?

I remember when newbies had to lurk for MONTHS for an open registration window.

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:56:34pm

re: #94 The War TARDIS

So, what do you want to have happen to the Arabs of Israel and Palestine then?

I have a Palestinian friend, and a survivor of Sabra and Shatila for an Imam.

Don’t troll me.

99 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 6:56:58pm
100 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 6:57:16pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

TWEETSTORM!

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Not to mention, for a low low low monthly fee (the price of a sixpack of imported beer) you can turn off all ads.

101 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 17, 2014 6:57:22pm

re: #82 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT DO I DO, I’M ALL OUT OF DESKS.
*SETS HAIR ON FIRE*

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I’ll start really worrying when you start setting pies on fire.
O_o

102 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:57:23pm

This is my favorite Weird Al song:
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103 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 6:57:49pm

re: #97 Pie-onist Overlord

I remember when newbies had to lurk for MONTHS for an open registration window.

Years for me.

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 6:58:30pm
105 The War TARDIS  Jul 17, 2014 6:58:33pm

re: #97 Pie-onist Overlord

I genuinely want to hear your opinion.

I put a bit of framing to let you know where I am coming from.

106 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 6:58:38pm

re: #97 Pie-onist Overlord

Trolling for registrations on Twitter? Or is this a honey trap?

I remember when newbies had to lurk for MONTHS for an open registration window.

thus my Stanley Sea nic. Window is open, ITS OPEN FUCK!

107 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 17, 2014 6:59:24pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

What’s for dinner Charles? Been a busy day.

I’m teaching an all remote student class this week, so I’m working from the house. Hit a rack of ribs with my seasoning mix, 200* oven. Went in about noon, an occasional baste with some sauce, just to glaze them. Rice and some green beans finished off the dinner. Best part, plenty of leftovers.

Can’t eat like that when I’m teaching at the center.

RBS

108 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 7:00:06pm

Heh. Wu-Tang Financial waxing philosophical.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:01:15pm

re: #105 The War TARDIS

I genuinely want to hear your opinion.

I put a bit of framing to let you know where I am coming from.

I have loved ones in Israel and all I care about is that they should be safe. Everyone else who has loved ones wants them to be safe.

I don’t know how to achieve that, it will take a divine intervention as far as I am concerned.

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:01:56pm
111 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:02:22pm

re: #97 Pie-onist Overlord

These tools are pretty unique and powerful, and somebody needs to get the word out about them. It might as well be me.

112 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 17, 2014 7:03:41pm

Maybe this came up earlier…

If that airliner had been a Ukrainian military jet, it would have been the third shot down. Third. And airliner routes were within a hundred miles of there?
I’m having a WTF moment. Maybe I need to open Google earth and overlay missile ranges. See how much airspace that is.

113 goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2014 7:03:56pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

Remember Putin’s pivot towards Asia a few months ago?
Russian Reliance on Chinese Loans May Blunt the Impact of U.S. Sanctions

LOL, I wish them luck with that.

Russia Debt Rating Cut to Step Above Junk at S&P

Russia’s sovereign debt rating was cut to the lowest investment grade at Standard & Poor’s, which said further downgrades are possible if economic growth deteriorates and the conflict in Ukraine sparks wider sanctions.

S&P cut Russia’s rating one step to BBB-, it said in a statement today. The grade, on par with Brazil and Azerbaijan, has a negative outlook. S&P last downgraded Russia in December 2008. Russia’s currency and bonds fell.

China’s appetite for Russian debt is going to be very, very finite, at least as an aboveboard investment. This has all the hallmarks of a predatory Mafia loan, and when Russia can’t repay they may well end up having to repay China for years via steeply discounted oil and gas shipments, or territory in the East.

114 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 7:04:41pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

These tools are pretty unique and powerful, and somebody needs to get the word out about them. It might as well be me.

A lot of what ends up in the pages ends up at TPM or Andrew sullivan or whatever DAYS after they were posted at LGF. Can’t get too much by an informed lizard.

115 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:05:22pm

re: #112 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe this came up earlier…

If that airliner had been a Ukrainian military jet, it would have been the third shot down. Third. And airliner routes were within a hundred miles of there?
I’m having a WTF moment. Maybe I need to open Google earth and overlay missile ranges. See how much airspace that is.

All the major carriers have changed their routes to avoid flyovers. But it must suck if your destination is Kiev.

116 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:06:19pm

One of the reasons I used to open registration only for limited windows back in the right wing day: because if I didn’t limit it, there would be a whole lot of raving nutbags in the comments.

117 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:08:05pm
118 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:08:10pm
119 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 7:08:53pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

One of the reasons I used to open registration only for limited windows back in the right wing day: because if I didn’t limit it, there would be a whole lot of raving nutbags in the comments.

It is so much more civil these days. Thanks.

120 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 7:11:02pm

Oh, Alouette, thanks for the Win the Internet downstairs. That was sweet.

:-D

121 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 7:11:18pm

Lee (can I call him Lee?) is wonderful.

122 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:11:22pm

I expect a lot of stalker action after those tweets, of course.

123 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:13:04pm

re: #120 teleskiguy

Oh, Alouette, thanks for the Win the Internet downstairs. That was sweet.

:-D

I didn’t realize that some people thought you said a homophobic slur. Mainly because I’m not that hip to the lingo. It just sounded like awesome pwn3ge

124 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 17, 2014 7:13:33pm
125 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:14:11pm

If we can get more people to post LGF Pages, it will increase everyone’s visibility.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

126 bubba zanetti  Jul 17, 2014 7:17:12pm
127 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 17, 2014 7:18:21pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

BTW I was talking to my ISP web redesign guy. He’s working on my day job website. Anyway I got him to take a look at the code in the Pages system. He was kinda blown away.

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:18:32pm

They totally DO KNOW you freaking asstard, they just want to inform the next of kin before announcing it to morons like you.

129 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 7:19:34pm

re: #123 Pie-onist Overlord

awesome pwn3ge

That’s ALL I thought I was doing. It was a reference to Queens of the Stone Age on a live album they did. Some asshole was throwing shit at Josh and Josh stopped played and pointed the dude out to everybody in the crowd and proceeded to use the epithet I threw at dumbshit downstairs.

Thing is, I fancy myself as young (early 30s) and I guess Carlin was right, the language keeps getting softer and more PC.

*toilet paper -> bathroom tissue*
*trailer -> mobile home*
*motel -> motor lodge*
*constipation -> occasional irregularity*

130 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:20:35pm
131 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 17, 2014 7:20:57pm
132 Varek Raith  Jul 17, 2014 7:22:10pm

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

They totally DO KNOW you freaking asstard, they just want to inform the next of kin before announcing it to morons like you.

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He’s still going on about that?

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:26:34pm

re: #132 Varek Raith

He’s still going on about that?

It’s been an all-day Derpathon.

134 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:26:37pm

re: #127 Rightwingconspirator

BTW I was talking to my ISP web redesign guy. He’s working on my day job website. Anyway I got him to take a look at the code in the Pages system. He was kinda blown away.

This shit ain’t easy.

135 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 17, 2014 7:26:47pm

Off to bed early tonight.

A couple of Nieuports for Gus. :)

Nieuport 12

Nieuport 17

136 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 7:26:49pm
137 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:27:51pm

TEH AIRLINER WENT DOWN & OBAMA ATE A BURGER!!!! HE’S A MONSTER!!!11!!! INPEECH!!!1!!!!!!

138 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 17, 2014 7:28:37pm

THIS IS WHAT A REAL PRESIDENT SAYS!!!!!11!!!

139 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 7:30:19pm

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

140 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:31:53pm
141 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 7:33:54pm

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

They totally DO KNOW you freaking asstard, they just want to inform the next of kin before announcing it to morons like you.

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It doesn’t matter anyway. People were killed. Doesn’t matter where they were from. Stupid nationalism.

142 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:34:07pm
143 Irving  Jul 17, 2014 7:36:51pm

How “on topic” would you like pages to be, Charles? I wouldn’t mind a place to post about fencing and SCA stuff, but that’s pretty far off the beaten path for the usual crowd here.

144 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 7:40:16pm

re: #143 Irving

There are a bunch of categories to choose from:

145 Romantic Heretic  Jul 17, 2014 7:40:52pm

re: #135 Feline Fearless Leader

Off to bed early tonight.

A couple of Nieuports for Gus. :)

Nieuport 12

[Embedded image]Nieuport 17

Billy Bishop’s first ride.

146 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:43:49pm

re: #143 Irving

How “on topic” would you like pages to be, Charles? I wouldn’t mind a place to post about fencing and SCA stuff, but that’s pretty far off the beaten path for the usual crowd here.

Please feel free to post anything you like. You might be surprised at how much interest there is!

147 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 17, 2014 7:45:01pm

re: #143 Irving

How “on topic” would you like pages to be, Charles? I wouldn’t mind a place to post about fencing and SCA stuff, but that’s pretty far off the beaten path for the usual crowd here.

Post away! I’d enjoy seeing stuff like that.

148 Floral Giraffe  Jul 17, 2014 7:46:11pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

Post away! I’d enjoy seeing stuff like that.

Me too!

149 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 7:48:43pm

re: #143 Irving

How “on topic” would you like pages to be, Charles? I wouldn’t mind a place to post about fencing and SCA stuff, but that’s pretty far off the beaten path for the usual crowd here.

My first page is about skiing in Afghanistan, something I really want to do in my lifetime.

150 andres  Jul 17, 2014 7:50:31pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Can we gift Greenwald a dictionary? Half the words he uses doesn’t mean what he think they mean.

151 Belafon  Jul 17, 2014 7:51:32pm

re: #150 andres

He probably has a different definition for “dictionary.”

152 Charles Johnson  Jul 17, 2014 7:59:56pm

re: #150 andres

I’m pretty sure he knows what the words mean. He’s consciously manipulating his gullible followers.

153 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 17, 2014 8:00:36pm

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS IS WHAT A REAL PRESIDENT SAYS!!!!!11!!!

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This is how he really reacted. I remember this speech. Fucking Soviet bastards.

President Reagan’s Address to the Nation on the Soviet Attack on a Korean Airliner (KAL 007)

Youtube Video

154 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 8:02:37pm

Badass skier gals make me smile.

155 Rob Lll  Jul 17, 2014 8:07:18pm
Al, on the other hand, does parodies of pop songs, usually involving food

.

In other words, Al may be hungry but he sure ain’t weird.

156 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 17, 2014 8:13:40pm
157 Belafon  Jul 17, 2014 8:14:22pm
158 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 8:17:20pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

One of the reasons I used to open registration only for limited windows back in the right wing day: because if I didn’t limit it, there would be a whole lot of raving nutbags in the comments.

No shit.

159 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 17, 2014 8:19:20pm
160 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 8:20:24pm

re: #159 NJDhockeyfan

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The other says “Putin Terrorist”.

161 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 8:22:33pm

All the previous Putin praise givers. Where are they today?

162 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 17, 2014 8:24:08pm
163 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 17, 2014 8:26:40pm

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan

Paged.

164 bubba zanetti  Jul 17, 2014 8:29:07pm

re: #138 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS IS WHAT A REAL PRESIDENT SAYS!!!!!11!!!

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The reality:

165 bubba zanetti  Jul 17, 2014 8:29:37pm
166 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 8:34:13pm

re: #164 bubba zanetti

The reality:

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Oh, snap!

167 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 8:37:09pm

The poor fuck. The poor miserable fuck.

168 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 8:39:34pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

He’s 83. Maybe he should relax about not being able to buy everything.

169 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 8:40:15pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

The poor fuck. The poor miserable fuck.

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Chou en-Lai did far less damage to this country than Rupert Murdoch.

170 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 8:40:30pm

Go fishing before its too late Rupert!

171 bratwurst  Jul 17, 2014 8:41:11pm

re: #164 bubba zanetti

The reality:

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There is also the fact (as pointed out by Maddow tonight in her long opening segment) in Reagan’s speech on September 5th he stated that other countries (aside from the USSR) do not engage in the practice of shooting down unarmed civilian aircraft…until the US Navy did it less than 5 years later while Reagan was still president.

172 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 8:41:30pm

re: #166 austin_blue

Oh, snap!

And by the way, the woman in the Kiev picture with the “Putin Terrorist” sign has an English translation written in Cyrillic letters. It’s for the foreign press, which doesn’t make it inaccurate.

It’ll be interesting to see what the EUs reaction to today’s shoot down will be. Obama put some pretty harsh additional sanctions on Russian industry and banks yesterday. The EUs initial response was more “measured” (aka weak). Pressure will ratchet up tomorrow on the EU to match or exceed the US sanctions. The Dutch will be swinging for the fences. Merkel and Cameron will be under significant duress.

Oh, and it’s raining like hell here. Yay!

173 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 8:41:39pm

re: #166 austin_blue

Oh, snap!

Watch out for Matt Binder you fools.

174 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 8:43:13pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

The poor fuck. The poor miserable fuck.

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He’s looking for his last hurrah. Fuck, his wife cheated on him with Tony Blair. What’s left?

175 goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2014 8:43:37pm

re: #165 bubba zanetti

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Also, a year earlier Reagan had done absolutely nothing when an F-1 from Saddam Hussein’s Iraq fired two missiles at the USS Stark, killing 37 sailors. In retrospect the guy was some kind of epic level ass clown.

176 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 8:45:50pm

He’s gonna have to drop this persona when he hits The Late Show.

177 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 8:48:45pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Also, a year earlier Reagan had done absolutely nothing when an F-1 from Saddam Hussein’s Iraq fired two missiles at the USS Stark, killing 37 sailors. In retrospect the guy was some kind of epic level ass clown.

That was during the “Tanker Wars” in the Persian Gulf. Go to Google Maps and take a look at Kharg Island, which is a major offshore ship-loading platform for Iranian crude. Notice the shipwrecks? It was a dicey time. Saddam had no reason to attack the Stark. We were asshole buddies with him at the time. Fog of war.

178 Stanley Sea  Jul 17, 2014 8:50:41pm

I’m out. Hope tomorrow morning doesn’t bring more carnage.

Sleep tight Lizards.

not comfy

179 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 8:55:20pm

The age is dead, the world has turned, we are not fit food for aliens:

Youtube comment
“im doing a power point on duane eddy for my college freshman class :-)”

180 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 17, 2014 8:56:29pm

re: #178 Stanley Sea

I’m out. Hope tomorrow morning doesn’t bring more carnage.

Sleep tight Lizards.

not comfy

it’s a Monorail-Cat

181 jaunte  Jul 17, 2014 9:01:55pm
182 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 9:05:51pm

Via my FB.

Actually they already got all the boxes. The “separatists” don’t have the means of downing planes flying that high. According to European dispatchers, it was Ukrainian fighter jets that were escorting the commercial jet and probably downed it having mistaken it for Putin’s plane, which was airborne over Eastern Europe around the same time.

Sigh.

183 The War TARDIS  Jul 17, 2014 9:07:48pm

Me and the lovely lady in Iran are growing close. I am planning on Iran in January. Anybody travel there? I need to know how things work, in traveling there. I know a small number of Americans travel their each year.

184 Belafon  Jul 17, 2014 9:08:06pm

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

You might ask this person, if you care, why the separatist leader first started claiming credit for the attack, and then took his tweets down after it was discovered that it was not a Ukranian airplane.

185 The War TARDIS  Jul 17, 2014 9:10:57pm

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

RT needs to be investigated.

186 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 9:13:59pm

Sharknado 2 opens Wed, 30 Jul.

187 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 9:18:31pm

All I’d really have to ask this guy is “Why would Putin be flying over Ukiraine?”, but I’ll have fun with him for awhile. He’s got a Russian last name. :)

188 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 9:18:57pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Sharknado 2 opens Wed, 30 Jul.

Aug. 1, it’ll be on Netflix. lol

189 The War TARDIS  Jul 17, 2014 9:19:59pm

re: #187 GlutenFreeJesus

Awww, I want to deal with him.

190 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 9:21:27pm

re: #189 The War TARDIS

Awww, I want to deal with him.

lol You can, vicariously through me. Kind of a touchy situation though. It’s a friend of a friend kind of thing and he just happened to jump in. Never met the guy. and from what I’m reading, I’m ok with that.

191 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 9:28:22pm

To offset all of today’s shit, Bonnie Dobson has surfaced again. She wrote the Dead’s Morning Dew and did the first successful recording of The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face.

Youtube Video

192 freetoken  Jul 17, 2014 9:40:19pm

re: #183 The War TARDIS

travel.state.gov

193 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 17, 2014 9:41:33pm

well, I’m gone for the night, lost out on an Ebay auction, but that’s life. I set my max price, and if it goes over, it’s not a bargain.

RBS

194 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 17, 2014 9:43:55pm

Sigh.

My wingnut FB friend from college today posted Dim Jim’s story about the Weslaco hotel with nary an acknowledgement that (a) the story was false and (b) the project has been abandoned. His fellow wingnut commenters had to bring up the truth about (b), but not one questioned whether the original story was accurate.

I think it’s time I just un-friend him. It’ll be easier on my BP.

195 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 9:52:07pm

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi

Sigh.

My wingnut FB friend from college today posted Dim Jim’s story about the Weslaco hotel with nary an acknowledgement that (a) the story was false and (b) the project has been abandoned. His fellow wingnut commenters had to bring up the truth about (b), but not one questioned whether the original story was accurate.

I think it’s time I just un-friend him. It’ll be easier on my BP.

Makes room for two young friends with the future in their eyes.

196 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 10:00:19pm

Hillary weighs in:

4.29am BST

Hillary Clinton: EU can not stand idly by, must toughen sanctions

If the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile, as has been quite confidently suggested by US analysts, then “the equipment had to have come from Russia”, the former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has said in one of the strongest US statements about the crash yet.

She also called on the EU to increase sanctions against Russia, and join with the US in further supporting Ukraine.

“From my perspective benefit of not being in the government, if there is evidence linking Russia to this, that should inspire the Europeans to do much more on three counts. One, toughen their own sanctions. Make it very clear there has to be a price to pay. Number two, immediately accelerate efforts and announce they are doing so to find alternatives to Gazprom. You know, Russia has not diversified its economy. It is still largely dependent upon natural resources, principally gas and oil. And thirdly, do more in concert with us to support the Ukrainians. There has to be more help on their borders in order to prevent this porous border allowing Russians to go back and forth, insurgents to do the same. Do more to help their military obtain better equipment, better training. The Ukrainian military under Poroshenko has been much more focused and more successful, but nobody kids themselves.

If Russia really keeps weighing in on behalf of the insurgents, there’s a lot more that needs to be done. And to put Putin on notice that he has gone too far and we are not going to stand idly by. So Europeans have to be the ones to take the lead on this. It was a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur over European territory. There should be outrage in European capitals.”

197 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2014 10:02:24pm

Does anyone know anything about the conditions of Julian Assange’s imprisonment at the Ecuadoran embassy? Has he literally not been out of that little office flat in 2 years? I know they have converted part (probably most) of their limited floor space into an apartment for him, but other than that, can he go anywhere? Is he allowed to have guests at his leisure, say, entertaining spy groupies? Can he bring in whatever booze or other recreational materials he wants?
If he hasn’t been outside in this whole time, he might want to consider that the well designed and progressively managed Swedish prisons allow inmates fresh air and sunshine and even their own little gardens if they are so inclined. Wouldn’t that be wonderful, Julian? To trod the well maintained turf of a Swedish facility, to smell the pine trees that are no doubt nearby, to feel the sun on your face, to be able to walk, say, 50 meters without having to reverse yourself. You also wouldn’t have the constant din of London traffic just a few feet away or the constant fear that your benefactors in Quito will be voted out and you will be thrown out.

198 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:03:47pm

re: #197 Shiplord Kirel

Julian who?

199 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 10:07:19pm

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Julian who?

Now, see, that’s funny!

200 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:08:17pm

re: #199 austin_blue

Now, see, that’s funny!

Wasting my best shit at 12:08 AM.

201 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2014 10:08:36pm

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Julian who?

Interpol fugitive, alleged sex offender, wanted in Sweden.

202 goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2014 10:11:02pm

203 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:11:52pm

re: #201 Shiplord Kirel

Interpol fugitive, alleged sex offender, wanted in Sweden.

“Well, the weeks went by and spring turned to summer
And summer faded into fall
And it turns out he was a missing person
who nobody missed at all”

204 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2014 10:12:18pm

You know, I’d hate to think that my whole future hinges on the result of the next election in Ecuador.

205 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 10:14:15pm

re: #201 Shiplord Kirel

Interpol fugitive, alleged sex offender, wanted in Sweden.

Oh, that guy.

Did you hear that Israeli troops have entered Gaza, that Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine shot down a commercial airliner full of AIDS activists, that Elaine Stritch and Johnny Winter died, and that Rory Mcilroy shot a 66 today?

206 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 10:14:18pm

More on this Russian Facebook guy after I posted the screenshots down a few threads.

Both of the posts talk about shooting down an AN-26 military plane. I’m not sure I’d believe in the authenticity of these screen shots though - anyone can put a graphic together to make it look like somebody’s post on social media. Since the Ukrainian military has had no problem with the indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets (which has included the use of some illegal weapons), I don’t see why they would have a problem shooting down an airliner. Besides, Poroshenko’s premature statement denying any involvement of his military was to say the least unprofessional. Let the investigations take place.

Predictable.

207 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:16:34pm

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

More on this Russian Facebook guy after I posted the screenshots down a few threads.

Predictable.

DMF

Dosvedanya Motherfucker.

208 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 17, 2014 10:20:56pm

re: #205 austin_blue

Oh, that guy.

Did you hear that Israeli troops have entered Gaza, that Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine shot down a commercial airliner full of AIDS activists, that Elaine Stritch and Johnny Winter died, and that Rory Mcilroy shot a 66 today?

Didn’t know about Mcilroy.

209 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:22:30pm

Loved her for 50 years.

Youtube Video

210 goddamnedfrank  Jul 17, 2014 10:24:29pm

re: #201 Shiplord Kirel

Interpol fugitive, alleged sex offender, wanted in Sweden.

Wanted on a material witness warrant. He hasn’t actually been charged with anything.

His friends have reported that he told them he did have an agreement with the Swedish prosecutors to return for more questioning later. His breaking of that promise is why they’re pissed off.

It’s really stupid of him. I’m not sure how Swedish law works exactly, and I do know their sexual assault laws are much stronger, but logic dictates that the case can’t be that strong or he’d already be charged officially. His reluctance to go back and answer questions after agreeing to go back and do so only tends to make him look guiltier than his actual legal position ostensibly indicates.

His publicly espoused fear of extradition to the US is just more of the same, and it’s so stupid. He’s letting the seemingly very thin odds both of an actual conviction in Sweden and of a US prosecution ever occurring keep him locked up as a de facto prisoner in that embassy.

211 Snarknado!  Jul 17, 2014 10:24:30pm

re: #155 Rob Lll

.

In other words, Al may be hungry but he sure ain’t weird.

Where are our manners? Greetings, hatchling!

212 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 10:25:41pm

re: #207 Decatur Deb

DMF

Dosvedanya Motherfucker.

Prit-e-much.

I already apologized to my friend for getting into it with this guy. Her response, paraphrased: Oh, he’s just an acquaintance. And he’s Russian. Of course he’s going to think his country is innocent.

213 BeachDem  Jul 17, 2014 10:26:01pm

re: #203 Decatur Deb

“Well, the weeks went by and spring turned to summer
And summer faded into fall
And it turns out he was a missing person
who nobody missed at all”

I guess I shouldn’t love that song, but I do! Thanks for a smile to end an otherwise depressing day.

214 austin_blue  Jul 17, 2014 10:33:16pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

Loved her for 50 years.

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Johnny Winter, Elaine Stritch, Lorin Maazel. As She Who Must Be Obeyed noted, no matter your musical bent, this has been a tough week. Giants have left the stage.

215 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:33:17pm

Her previous album was 1972.

hornbeamrecordings.com

216 teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2014 10:35:32pm
217 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 17, 2014 10:48:34pm

And where are the Russians getting the idea that Putin’s plane flew along the same flight path just an hour before this happened, therefore it was Ukraine that show down the passenger plane? Ugh.

218 Single-handed sailor  Jul 17, 2014 10:49:47pm

re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus

Especially since the great circle route from Brazil to Moscow doesn’t go over Ukraine.

219 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 10:51:26pm

re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus

And where are the Russians getting the idea that Putin’s plane flew along the same flight path just an hour before this happened, therefore it was Ukraine that show down the passenger plane? Ugh.

re: #218 Single-handed sailor

Especially since the great circle route from Brazil to Moscow doesn’t go over Ukraine.

Great Anal Route.

220 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 17, 2014 10:57:27pm

re: #214 austin_blue

Tommy Ramone as well. Bad week as you say.

221 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 11:14:07pm

re: #220 William Barnett-Lewis

Tommy Ramone as well. Bad week as you say.

Home from the motel/asylum? Have an image of you doing a bit like John LaRoquette at the bus terminal.

dailymotion.com

222 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 17, 2014 11:18:29pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Home from the motel/asylum? Have an image of you doing a bit like John LaRoquette at the bus terminal.

dailymotion.com

Cute. Nah, had to get a new phone last week and this galaxy s4 handles lgf fine.

223 Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2014 11:22:50pm

‘Nite, all.

“This is a dark ride.”

224 Amory Blaine  Jul 17, 2014 11:45:27pm

Was in the Dells again yesterday and took my wife, mom and niece zip-lining. I was very impressed that my wife went as she normally shies away from risky activities. Then I crooned around the campfire with my guitar for about 4 hours. Was a good time.

225 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 12:10:39am

Daily Show host Jon Stewart mocked Republican lawmakers on Thursday for talking tough in referring to President Barack Obama as a “tyrant,” but never following up on their repeated insistence that he should be impeached out of fear it would only push more of the electorate against them.

“That’s how you know all this talk of tyranny is bullsh*t,” he said. “When your main concern when you’re deposing a tyrant is how it will affect your party’s chances in the upcoming midterm elections, that’s not tyranny.”

What made the latest round of GOP trash-talking interesting, Stewart noted, was that it seemed to stem from “word sausages” from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R), who referred to the increase in undocumented immigrants from Central America as “the last straw that makes the battered wife say, ‘No mas.’”

“If I may, it appears ex-Governor Palin has finally finished with mangling the English language, and has moved on to making Spanish incomprehensible,” Stewart explained. “She’s like a serial killer of language. Or whatever the opposite of a Rosetta Stone is.”

226 Varek Raith  Jul 18, 2014 12:34:18am

Youtube Video

227 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 12:40:39am

So, perusing Teh Twitters this afternoon, I came across this RT from our friend Prudence:

The link points to an editorial in Investor’s Business Daily, which riffs off a report by ABC News. As you can expect, the IBD editorial plays up the “OMG! Alien-borne diseases! We’re all gonna die!!” angle, while completely ignoring the latter half of the ABC report saying there’s really nothing to worry about. The doctors have things under control.

“My biggest concerns are with the health of these children,” said Richard Besser, ABC News’ chief health and medical editor. “They are victims going through incredibly stressful circumstances and some will have health issues that need to be treated. Some come from countries that don’t vaccinate against pneumonia or meningitis. They need those vaccines. Some come from countries where it is flu season. They need that vaccine, too. The big health risks are among these children, not to our communities.”

abcnews.go.com

Curious about the original tweeter, Linda Suhler Ph.D. — that’s how all her articles, comments, blogs, etc., are signed: Linda Suhler P-H-D — I checked her Twitter profile.

Unabashed & unapologetic Constitutional Conservative, working with you to save our nation. #SisterPatriots #2A #ProLife #ProIsrael #antiObama #PJNET #tcot #WAAR

Arizona Texan! #CruztoVictory

Boo-rah!

She’s got a ridiculous number of followers (69K) and has tweeted a ridiculous number of times. But my google-fu has failed to turn up exactly what she got her Ph.D. in, and why people seem to think she’s such hotshit.

Anybody here know?

228 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 1:04:18am

OK, my google-fu is still up to snuff. Here’s what Linda Suhler P-H-D told someone who asked what her degree is in.

I googled her. I have no independent source to back her statement.

Someone also asked where she got her degree. Fortunately, Linda Suhler P-H-D answers the question:

I guess we are supposed to be impressed.

So, why is this woman so famous? It’s not because of her molecular biology or biophysics publications or other achievements.

229 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 18, 2014 1:14:08am

The airliner incident will have repercussions for Putin, He can put all the political spin on it that he wants, blame it on whomever he wants, but his role is clear.

And it is that it is clear to everyone that he has interfered with international airline routes and is tampering with a multi-billion dollar industry.

That cannot go without economic consequences. You can get away with trampling human rights but you do not fuck with the big boys.

230 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 1:19:27am

231 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 2:03:15am

Comedian and comic actor Jonathan Winters dead at 87.

us.cnn.com

The man who inspired Robin Williams and others.

232 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 18, 2014 2:03:20am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi

Just last weekend, I watched a BBC documentary on the Third Reich that showed a Nazi propaganda newsreel with a voiceover decrying Jews as immigrant vermin who spread disease and crime. It was *exactly* the same language currently being used by the lunatics obsessed with turning away busloads of refugee kids.

233 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 2:10:17am

re: #232 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Just last weekend, I watched a BBC documentary on the Third Reich that showed a Nazi propaganda newsreel with a voiceover decrying Jews as immigrant vermin who spread disease and crime. It was *exactly* the same language currently being used by the lunatics obsessed with turning away busloads of refugee kids.

Yup. And anti-immigration groups have used the same language against the Irish, the Jews, the Japanese, the Chinese, Eastern Europeans … you name it.

The fact is, even according to the sensationalized ABC report I cited, these children are not carrying any diseases into the US that present an imminent danger to the health of American citizens. Most people have a greater chance of getting sick by visiting a friend or loved one in the hospital.

234 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 2:56:57am

Some of you are just waking up. Here’s the latest bulletins about MH17 from The Star, in Malaysia.

RT is reporting 121 bodies have been recovered.
thestar.com.my

The second black box has been found. Citing Reuters, The Star does not identify who recovered the second flight recorder. Separatists apparently found the first black box and were going to send it to Moscow for examination. thestar.com.my

Three Shell Malaysia employees and the step-grandmother of the Malaysian Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak were among the 298 victims of the crash. thestar.com.my

235 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 3:15:14am
236 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 3:29:04am

Ugh. Today is going to be awful. The weather is horrid.

Go away rain.

237 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 4:00:10am

re: #235 Lidane

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Comic book fans will appreciate this photo from the linked article.

A German refugee child and Superman devotee at the NY City Children’s Colony - Marjory Collins/Library of Congress

Alarmists painted immigrants—children included—as disease-ridden job stealers bent on destroying the American way of life. And they’re still at it. On a CNN segment about the current crisis of child migrants from Central and South America, Michele Bachmann used the word “invaders” and warned of rape and other dangers posed to Americans by the influx. And last week, National Review scoffed at appeals to American ideals of compassion and charity, claiming Ellis Island officials had a strict send-‘em-back policy when it came to children showing up alone.

They didn’t. Not then, and not now.

238 KiTA  Jul 18, 2014 4:01:03am

Man, this new schedule is so weird.

239 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 4:23:30am

Morning Lizardim. Well, the Twin Cities are still standing this morning when I drove by, so I presume that means things haven’t escalated badly yet. What did I miss in my unconscious hours?

240 BongCrodny  Jul 18, 2014 4:23:48am

re: #165 bubba zanetti

KAL007 crashed on September 1, 1983. Reagan didn’t address the nation to condemn the shooting until September 5th

You’re spoiling the hagiography, dammit!

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 4:24:17am

re: #238 KiTA

Man, this new schedule is so weird.

Try this one:

:D

242 Flounder  Jul 18, 2014 4:33:36am

Good morning!
A perfect day today in upstate NY.
First day of the track in Saratoga Springs.
Took the scooter into work this morning, 50 degrees F, a wee bit nipply.

243 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 4:38:05am

re: #232 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Just last weekend, I watched a BBC documentary on the Third Reich that showed a Nazi propaganda newsreel with a voiceover decrying Jews as immigrant vermin who spread disease and crime. It was *exactly* the same language currently being used by the lunatics obsessed with turning away busloads of refugee kids.

It’s the same dehumanizing rhetoric. Hell I even see RWNJs use the same word- “parasite” that the Nazis often used to describe those they deemed inferior. Frankly what the RWNJs are doing is standing against everything America has and should stand for.

244 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 4:40:56am

I just have one little request about the Pages system. Can we change the “Moonbats” category to “Dudebros”? Times have change and we do tend to post more articles about Greenwald & Friends than about Code Pink & PETA.

245 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 4:42:28am
246 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 4:45:54am

re: #145 Romantic Heretic

Billy Bishop’s first ride.

Yep. And right next to that Nieuport 17 display was this.

Display of Billy Bishop’s medals

247 Teukka  Jul 18, 2014 4:55:06am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

It’s the same dehumanizing rhetoric. Hell I even see RWNJs use the same word- “parasite” that the Nazis often used to describe those they deemed inferior. Frankly what the RWNJs are doing is standing against everything America has and should stand for.

A while back while arguing with a RWNJ on a different topic, I found this gem of a page:

Nazi racial ideology was religious, creationist and opposed to Darwinism

A couple of quotes which will send chills down your spine:

“The liberal epoch brought enormous desolation in the church domain. This was precipitated by its many pseudoscientific beliefs such as evolution. […] The tragic thing about the spiritual history of the last hundred years is that the churches have made the liberal materialistic outlook their own. […] Thus the Darwinian era was able to create enormous confusion.”

— Alfred Rosenberg, NSDAP ideologue

“We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past years.”

— The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

Although the block article does have a slight anti-Christian bias, it paints a good picture of the convergence of religion and politics in the Third Reich, and how the Nazi’s co-opted Christianity to do their horrible deeds. The co-opted version even had a flag:

The Flag of Deutsche Christen, Nazi-coopted version of Christianity

I have gotten quite some bit of “that is a lib lie” “that’s cultural marxist propaganda” “that’s gay propaganda” and worse responses from wingnuts when posting select quotes from the article in a chat, showing how the rightwing ideology matches that of Nazism in terms of hatred of atheism, creationism and anti-evolutionism.

And I’m sure the rabbit hole goes much deeper if anyone is willing to do the research.

More at: Nazi racial ideology was religious, creationist and opposed to Darwinism | coelsblog

248 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 5:03:37am

re: #247 Teukka

The quotes from Rosenberg and Hitler could easily have been said as little as a week ago by the likes of Rick Santorum or Allen West or pretty much anyone among the RWNJ’s.

That is indeed chilling.

249 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 18, 2014 5:05:26am
250 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 5:08:39am

What I find most chilling is that they engage in dehumanizing rhetoric much like the Nazis would. That’s something I refuse to do myself. I hate the RWNJs and what they stand for but I can and will not deny someone their humanity. So it naturally makes me ill to see people from Middle Eastern Muslims to immigrants whose sole crime is simply trying to make a better life for their families called vermin, parasite, etc.

251 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 5:09:42am

re: #247 Teukka

A while back while arguing with a RWNJ on a different topic, I found this gem of a page:

Nazi racial ideology was religious, creationist and opposed to Darwinism

A couple of quotes which will send chills down your spine:

Although the block article does have a slight anti-Christian bias, it paints a good picture of the convergence of religion and politics in the Third Reich, and how the Nazi’s co-opted Christianity to do their horrible deeds. The co-opted version even had a flag:

The Flag of Deutsche Christen, Nazi-coopted version of Christianity

I have gotten quite some bit of “that is a lib lie” “that’s cultural marxist propaganda” “that’s gay propaganda” and worse responses from wingnuts when posting select quotes from the article in a chat, showing how the rightwing ideology matches that of Nazism in terms of hatred of atheism, creationism and anti-evolutionism.

And I’m sure the rabbit hole goes much deeper if anyone is willing to do the research.

More at: Nazi racial ideology was religious, creationist and opposed to Darwinism | coelsblog

Anyone who believes the Nazis were anything but right wing is guilty of deluding themselves.

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 5:15:22am

I just don’t get how some people think it’s no big deal leaving a dog (or a child!) in a locked car.

253 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 5:18:04am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just don’t get how some people think it’s no big deal leaving a dog (or a child!) in a locked car.

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People just don’t think, that’s all.

254 Teukka  Jul 18, 2014 5:18:18am

re: #248 Dr Lizardo

The quotes from Rosenberg and Hitler could easily have been said as little as a week ago by the likes of Rick Santorum or Allen West or pretty much anyone among the RWNJ’s.

That is indeed chilling.

I am hesitant about this, but sometimes when I observe the wingnuts in the US, what they say, how they behave… It is so familiar for me, I’ve seen it all before.

I come from Finland, which paid deerly for siding with the Nazis during WWII. Many of us learn from an early age to recognize fascism in whatever guise it may come. And it wasn’t longer ago than October last year our special forces had to deal with one of many surprises the nasty Nazis left behind when we ran them out of our country.

… “The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored because it cannot survive their being repeated” …

— Justice Robert Jackson, Opening Address for the US Prosecution, Nürnberg trials.

Wise words indeed. Maybe it is time to acknowledge that what walks like a duck and talks like a duck very likely is a duck, and call the wingnuts out on the monster they are trying to revive.

We know from several instances in 20th century history that it does not end well, and in an nuclear age, we as a species might not survive the mistake of letting the monster wake up again.

255 Mattand  Jul 18, 2014 5:19:52am

re: #232 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Just last weekend, I watched a BBC documentary on the Third Reich that showed a Nazi propaganda newsreel with a voiceover decrying Jews as immigrant vermin who spread disease and crime. It was *exactly* the same language currently being used by the lunatics obsessed with turning away busloads of refugee kids.

It ain’t Godwin’s Law when the people you’re describing are actually acting like goddamn Nazis.

256 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 5:21:12am

Putin was the right’s hero a few months ago, a manly man to wimpy Obama’s fecklessness.

But now Putin is a bad guy again. Not as bad as Obama, of course. Why is this? Because Reagan is relevant again being used to smear Obama.

Ideology is poison.

257 Teukka  Jul 18, 2014 5:24:55am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Anyone who believes the Nazis were anything but right wing is guilty of deluding themselves.

Preaching to the choir man, preaching to the choir…

The National Socialists were as Socialist as the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North) is Democratic, which is not at all.

I think that the painting of Nazism as a left-wing, atheistic and “evolutionary (sic(!))” ideology is a conscious tactic of the wingnut elite to divert the grassroots attention from what it is they are tricked into believing and supporting.

And the US is not alone, the same sort of monster is alive and well in Russia of all places.

What will it take from them to notice?

*smh*

258 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 5:27:47am

re: #257 Teukka

Preaching to the choir man, preaching to the choir…

The National Socialists were as Socialist as the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North) is Democratic, which is not at all.

I think that the painting of Nazism as a left-wing, atheistic and “evolutionary (sic(!))” ideology is a conscious tactic of the wingnut elite to divert the grassroots attention from what it is they are tricked into believing and supporting.

And the US is not alone, the same sort of monster is alive and well in Russia of all places.

What will it take from them to notice?

*smh*

American Christians (and, truthfully, Christians the world over) don’t want to acknowledge the religious overtones of the Nazi ideology. They’d rather pretend Hitler was a Darwin fetishist and paper over the fact that the Roman Catholic church actively aided the escape of Nazi war criminals. It’s a black mark on our record that we don’t own up to it and come out in opposition to the way the Nazis twisted our religious beliefs to support their horrific actions.

259 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 5:28:20am

When the right loved Vladimir Putin

Right-Wing Media’s Love Affair With Putin Continues Over Syria Weapons Proposal

5 Right-Wing Media Stars On Team Putin

right in love with putin: About 34,600,000 results (0.37 seconds)

But now that a civilian plane got shot down, it’s Obama’s fault or at least a chance to smear him while the bodies are still burning in Ukraine.

260 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 5:29:51am

re: #256 Ryan King

Putin was the right’s hero a few months ago, a manly man to wimpy Obama’s fecklessness.

But now Putin is a bad guy again. Not as bad as Obama, of course. Why is this? Because Reagan is relevant again being used to smear Obama.

Ideology is poison.

They still think Vlad is a manly man who is pwning Obama & eating his lunch.

261 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 5:30:06am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi

Oh shit. Jonathan Winters’ humor informed my life.

262 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 5:31:08am

re: #260 Pie-onist Overlord

Evil sickness, the zombie apocalypse is well underway.

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 5:31:48am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi

Comedian and comic actor Jonathan Winters dead at 87.

us.cnn.com

The man who inspired Robin Williams and others.

He died last year.

264 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 5:33:45am
265 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 5:41:14am
266 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 5:49:51am

re: #259 Ryan King

When the right loved Vladimir Putin

Right-Wing Media’s Love Affair With Putin Continues Over Syria Weapons Proposal

5 Right-Wing Media Stars On Team Putin

right in love with putin: About 34,600,000 results (0.37 seconds)

But now that a civilian plane got shot down, it’s Obama’s fault or at least a chance to smear him while the bodies are still burning in Ukraine.

The “constitutional conservative” history buff I’ve known since high school posted this on his FB page the other day:

“Mr. Putin, I do respect your decision. When you said the inhumane tragedy of the flight, you will investigate, you will apprehend those responsible, whoever they are, and that they will soon learn what misery is, I do believe you will. History has shown KGB tactics to be very effective in matters like this.”

I wasn’t quite sure how to interpret that.

267 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:50:47am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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268 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 5:53:55am

re: #266 Lidane

Quite simply, fascism. A fascist sees other fascists as brethren.

269 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:57:42am

There are 8 tweets in the train of thought. See her TL for the rest.

270 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:59:50am
271 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 6:00:19am

re: #242 Flounder

Good morning!
A perfect day today in upstate NY.
First day of the track in Saratoga Springs.
Took the scooter into work this morning, 50 degrees F, a wee bit nipply.

I was born and spent my early formative years upstate. Utica, NY to be precise.

RBS

272 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 6:10:04am

My son-in-law is delivering Shabbat food to IDF and to citizens in Sderot, which is what the Israeli victim of rocket attack was doing when he was killed.

273 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 6:11:17am

Someone is trying to burnish his wingnut credentials for 2016:

Chris Christie Now Supports the Hobby Lobby Ruling

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) said Thursday that he backs the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby ruling, after declining to give an opinion on the outcome of the case earlier this month.

Christie voiced his support in response to a question from an attendee at a meet-and-greet event in Marion, Iowa, where Christie was campaigning for Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad (R). The Democratic research super PAC American Bridge caught the exchange on video.

“Do I support the Supreme Court decision in the Hobby Lobby case? I do,” Christie said, according to the video posted by American Bridge.

“Do you support Hobby Lobby’s position on birth control for its employees?” the attendee pressed.

“Well I just said I support the case, so if I support the case and they support the Hobby Lobby—” Christie said before moving on to greet other attendees.

274 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 6:12:01am

re: #271 RealityBasedSteve

I was born and spent my early formative years upstate. Utica, NY to be precise.

RBS

I spent formative years (9 through high school) on the other side of the Adirondacks from there. Massena.

Passed through there in late June. Place is an economic wreck.

275 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 6:12:27am

And because stupid, sexist fail doesn’t just come from the RWNJs:

276 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 6:13:23am

re: #275 Lidane

Wow. Can’t say that I’m surprised.

277 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 6:14:38am

re:
#273

And he’s going to keep up the fight against teh gay marriage! Because Freedom.

278 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:14:54am

re: #275 Lidane

And because stupid, sexist fail doesn’t just come from the RWNJs:

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What the… How the…

*flips desk, sets on fire*

279 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 6:16:14am

re:
#266

Yeah I don’t know about the constitutional conservative’s mish mash there. But I’m sure Obama’s to blame somehow.

280 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 6:16:58am

re:
#273

But Christie’s a Moderate!!!!11

281 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 6:17:46am

re: #278 thedopefishlives

What the… How the…

*flips desk, sets on fire*

Sir, Can I talk to you for a moment about the RBS line of Balsawood Desks? Light and easy to flip, pre-impregnated with lighter fluid, so they burn quickly and easily. No more straining your back trying to get it out the window….

RBS

282 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 18, 2014 6:18:02am

Maybe the RWNJ’s and the TPGOP are onto something with regards to creating jobs. With all their rhetoric lately, there seems to be a demand for new desks and fire extinguishers. Jrrrbzzz!!!

283 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 6:18:58am

re: #235 Lidane

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EXACTLY THAT’S HOW DON VITO CORLEONE GOT INTO OUR COUNTRY!!1!!

284 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 6:19:55am

Greets and saluts from the gloriously sunny NYC metro area. It’s a wonderful morning here, in stark contrast to the events unfolding half a world away over the past 24+ hours in both Gaza and Ukraine.

While Israel’s ground incursion into Gaza to deal with Hamas has been expected (though I thought that they’d hold off), the ongoing incessant rocket attacks by Hamas against Israel required the Israeli government to take further action despite the fact that Hamas has done very little damage overall.

The situation in Ukraine, however, was a bolt from the blue. The downing of the Malaysian jet took everyone by surprise, but it’s no surprise that the Russians and Ukrainians are both playing the event in their ongoing propaganda war against the other. Russia is busy claiming that it wouldn’t have happened had Ukraine acceded to separatist (and Russian demands), all while Russia essentially ignores 20 years of border integrity between Russia and Ukraine. Ukrainians, meanwhile are pointing the finger at the separatists who have been fighting against the government in Kiev.

Now, the world mourns the loss of AIDS researchers who were on the way to a major conference along with more than 200 others who were disinterested parties and were not involved in the fight.

The questions that have yet to be answered are numerous, including who actually fired on the plane, how they obtained the weapons capable of downing the jet at 33,000+ feet, and whether this signals a new and more dangerous phase in the fighting in Ukraine all while bringing the risk of an open fight between Russia and Ukraine even closer to a dangerous reality.

So, with all that in mind, you’ve got conspiracy theorists already hard at work - one claiming that it was Ukraine that was the one who fired on the plane, thinking that they were going after a plane that was carrying Putin that was supposedly in the area.

Imagine my shock that Matthew Keys, Alex Jones, and Russia Today were among those involved.

285 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 6:22:02am

re: #280 Bulworth

re:
#273

But Christie’s a Moderate!!!!11

And he said it outside NJ, where he’d run into a whole lot more resistance. Instead, he says it in Iowa, where he’s gauging the possibility of a run for the WH.

I’m suspecting that NJ will be happy to see Christie gone, particularly in a failed WH bid.

286 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:23:53am

re: #281 RealityBasedSteve

Sir, Can I talk to you for a moment about the RBS line of Balsawood Desks? Light and easy to flip, pre-impregnated with lighter fluid, so they burn quickly and easily. No more straining your back trying to get it out the window….

RBS

Yeah, I was in the thread yesterday when you discussed your groundbreaking enterprise idea. I’ll place an order for, uhhh… *quick mental math* Five hundred to start.

287 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 6:25:08am

re: #281 RealityBasedSteve

Sir, Can I talk to you for a moment about the RBS line of Balsawood Desks? Light and easy to flip, pre-impregnated with lighter fluid, so they burn quickly and easily. No more straining your back trying to get it out the window….

RBS

That can be the name of VB’s company - Flaming Desk Pies

“In Crust We Trust” - cherry flambe’ filling our specialty.

288 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 6:25:59am

re: #287 Feline Fearless Leader

That can be the name of VB’s company - Flaming Desk Pies

“In Crust We Trust” - cherry flambe’ filling our specialty.

S’mores Pies.

289 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 6:26:29am

From the WashPost this morning—

The West has charged Russia with sending increasingly sophisticated weapons into eastern Ukraine. As recently as Wednesday, when Obama announced stepped-up sanctions against Moscow, officials cited extensive surveillance showing new Russian arms shipments and additional Russian troops deployed to the border.

U.S. officials said Thursday that analysts at the CIA and other intelligence agencies were scrutinizing intercepted communications, satellite imagery and other information in an effort to determine who fired the missile that struck the Malaysian aircraft.

The officials noted that the conflict has been an area of intense focus for U.S. spy agencies, which have stepped up efforts to monitor communications among rebel units as well as aerial surveillance to track positions of Russian-backed forces and their weapons.

In the wake of the crash, officials said, U.S. analysts were working to retrace the path of the missile and reviewing signals intercepts for telltale reactions or admissions among separatist units.

Hurr hurr US is spying on Russia and Ukraine and whole world!!!11

washingtonpost.com

290 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 6:28:37am

re: #270 wrenchwench

I once made a pretty passionate speech to the admins at my son’s school about bullies. It’s not just the kid on the receiving end that is hurt. If the bully is allowed to continue, it damages who they are. Sometimes to the point where it’s either not repairable or the will to be repaired is destroyed. I’m a rape and domestic abuse survivor, I know all about escalation and how unhealthy it is. Of course my little speech wasn’t taken seriously, one asshole was checking his phone the whole time, but I said what I had to say.

Violence ISN’T HEALTHY. Period. For anyone. I’m an advocate for fighting back if you have to (in my case, a hammer worked pretty well), but even in self defense it has a negative effect. I also don’t buy that humans are just violent either. I’ve worked with kids as a teacher’s aide and preschool teacher. Violence is learned.

291 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:28:44am

re: #289 Bulworth

From the WashPost this morning—

Hurr hurr US is spying on Russia and Ukraine and whole world!!!11

washingtonpost.com

I note Snowden and Greenwald have been completely silent since the plane went down. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

292 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 6:29:07am

Please proceed:

McDaniel Campaign Begins Mississippi ‘Truth And Justice Tour’

Ready! Fire! Aim!

293 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 6:29:32am

re: #288 Pie-onist Overlord

S’mores Pies.

Jalapeno & Apple - Napalm Pie.
(Only half-joking since I have an apple pie recipe from a friend that does use pepper sauce in it.)

294 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 6:29:53am

It’s only 9:29 AM Eastern and I think we have the recipient of the most bullshit today award right here:
McCain: I’d Have Been ‘Reluctant’ To Start Iraq War If I Won In 2000

295 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:30:49am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah. I really need to check datelines before I post stuff.

296 darthstar  Jul 18, 2014 6:34:34am

re: #294 Timothy Watson

It’s only 9:29 AM Eastern and I think we have the recipient of the most bullshit today award right here:
McCain: I’d Have Been ‘Reluctant’ To Start Iraq War If I Won In 2000

His response to MH17 was a call to send more arms to the region.

297 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 6:35:17am

re: #294 Timothy Watson

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran…

298 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:36:19am

re: #296 darthstar

His response to MH17 was a call to send more arms to the region.

Because giving a bunch of people we don’t know and can’t trust highly advanced weaponry has worked out SO well in the past. After all, we just witnessed what happened when the Russians did it.

299 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 6:41:33am

re: #296 darthstar

Yeah, that’s McCain.

Here’s an idea, however…..if indeed pro-Russian separatists did this - and I’m pretty damned sure they did - then put Russia on the US State Department’s list of ‘State Sponsors of Terrorism’.

That unhappy designation includes the following actions:

1. A ban on arms-related exports and sales.
2. Controls over exports of dual-use items, requiring 30-day Congressional notification for goods or services that could significantly enhance the terrorist-list country’s military capability or ability to support terrorism.
3. Prohibitions on economic assistance.
4. Imposition of miscellaneous financial and other restrictions, including:

Requiring the United States to oppose loans by the World Bank and other international financial institutions;
Lifting diplomatic immunity to allow families of terrorist victims to file civil lawsuits in U.S. courts;
Denying companies and individuals tax credits for income earned in terrorist-listed countries;
Denial of duty-free treatment of goods exported to the United States;
Authority to prohibit any U.S. citizen from engaging in a financial transaction with a terrorist-list government without a Treasury Department license; and
Prohibition of Defense Department contracts above $100,000 with companies controlled by terrorist-list states.

When the Russian government formally disavows the Novorossiya separatists and indeed, makes efforts to bring them to justice in front of, let’s say, the International Criminal Court in The Hague, then Russia will be removed from the list.

That should do the trick pretty nicely.

300 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 6:41:43am

re:
#292

He’s gotta do something to keep the donations coming in…..

301 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 6:44:29am

DIM JIM HAS TEH BUTTHURT

302 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:44:50am

Storm front passed through here a couple hours ago, and we lost power for a while. Just a quick and heavy dousing, not like the four-day deluge we had last week.

Meanwhile, to the south, supertyphoon Rammasun has made landfall in Hainan (island and province) and is expected to move toward Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan provinces before moving into northern Vietnam.

(I had been planning a trip to Hanoi, but changed my mind to save money for my USA trip. Now it seems like an even better idea.)

Expect news reports of flooding in southern China and Vietnam in the next few days. Rammasun is a doozy.

303 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:45:48am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s got a lot a fuckin’ nerve.

304 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:46:13am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

DIM JIM HAS TEH BUTTHURT

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Apologies? What do we owe him apologies for? He’s an idiot and I won’t apologize for that.

305 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 6:50:10am

re: #304 thedopefishlives

Apologies? What do we owe him apologies for? He’s an idiot and I won’t apologize for that.

Time to break out the footage of Colonel Dax’s “apology” to the general in “Paths of Glory”.

306 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 6:51:51am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

For what? Pointing out he’s a lying sack of crap with the IQ of moss? (I apologize to moss for dragging its soft green name into this madness)

307 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:51:53am

re: #304 thedopefishlives

Get this last paragraph:

It is not our fault the currently open Palm Aire Hotel and Suites advertises (with eye-catching photographs) it has large beautiful swimming pools, Jacuzzis, saunas, tennis courts, racquet ball courts and a spacious exercise room with 20 machines and free weights.

You nitwit, you implied throughout the article that the new facility for the immigrants would be a freakin’ deluxe resort! Nowhere do you say anything about it being remodeled to a more suitable configuration.

It’s just more RWNJ martyrdom/oppression bullshit. They can never admit they were wrong.

308 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 6:52:38am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

Dear Jim,

We can’t apologize for you being a complete blithering moron. And we also can’t apologize for you needing a crash helmet to get through the day. That’s not our fault.

Also, this:

No love,
Me

309 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:53:27am

re: #308 Lidane

Aaaand we’re done here.

310 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 6:53:38am

re: #307 wheat-dogghazi

Get this last paragraph:

You nitwit, you implied throughout the article that the new facility for the immigrants would be a freakin’ deluxe resort! Nowhere do you say anything about it being remodeled to a more suitable configuration.

It’s just more RWNJ martyrdom/oppression bullshit. They can never admit they were wrong.

Obviously did not read the Tripadvisor reviews.

311 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 6:54:30am

re: #310 Pie-onist Overlord

Obviously did not read the Tripadvisor reviews.

He didn’t believe that review since it didn’t mention that the place might be full of brown people - mainly children.
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312 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 6:55:43am

re: #36 Blue Fielder

“Word Crimes” might well be my new Al favorite: It’s brilliantly smart, funny, useful in discussions, and it even defuses one of the worst tracks to come out of popular music since… well, I’m not sure what.

That was awesome! Thank you for sharing. I think I might have to hit iTunes today.

313 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 6:57:05am

Goddamn it Bratton:

Man Dies After Being Put In Choke-Hold By NYPD

Those cops are going to their pants sued off and most likely lose since a choke hold is (usually) not part of police training and considered deadly force in most instances.

314 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 6:57:22am

Speaking of Derp:

315 ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2014 6:58:57am

re: #275 Lidane

And because stupid, sexist fail doesn’t just come from the RWNJs:

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If you scratch the surface of Maher off, not far down you will find he is an ass.

And we must always remember Gus’s Circle of Derp…at the bottom there is a convergence of left and right into a dank dark greasy pool of asshole behavior.

Oh yeah…good morning! It’s a beautiful day here in central Ohio. It may be the last of the summer cool down. I will miss the last few days…not often you get this weather in mid-July. I hope another cooling trend hits in the middle of August!

316 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 7:01:14am

Mornin’, Lizards,

So what’s the first thing I see when I look at Facebook this morning?

A link to that stupid ‘Before It’s News’ web site (nope, not linking it) with the headline ‘Malaysian Airlines MH17 may have never taken off.’

The article makes the claim that the flight was cancelled, along with the claim that the plane was being escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until it was shot down. Also - zombie empty ‘replacement’ jet, media publishing pictures of bodies which they never do; more debris than Flight 93, and on and on.

It’s gonna be one of those days. Might be a good day to just play hooky from the net altogether.

Beautiful day, though!

317 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 7:03:10am

re: #316 makeitstop

Mornin’, Lizards,

So what’s the first thing I see when I look at Facebook this morning?

A link to that stupid ‘Before It’s News’ web site (nope, not linking it) with the headline ‘Malaysian Airlines MH17 may have never taken off.’

The article makes the claim that the flight was cancelled, along with the claim that the plane was being escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until it was shot down. Also - zombie empty ‘replacement’ jet, media publishing pictures of bodies which they never do; more debris than Flight 93, and on and on.

It’s gonna be one of those days. Might be a good day to just play hooky from the net altogether.

Beautiful day, though!

So all the passengers on MH17 are in the same seekrit gubmit concentration camp where they are holding the passengers from Flight 77 “that never crashed into the Pentagon”

318 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 18, 2014 7:04:19am

re: #316 makeitstop

re: #317 Pie-onist Overlord

Yep. They are all in some secret lot in Hollywood hanging out on the moon landing set.

319 ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2014 7:04:53am

re: #281 RealityBasedSteve

Sir, Can I talk to you for a moment about the RBS line of Balsawood Desks? Light and easy to flip, pre-impregnated with lighter fluid, so they burn quickly and easily. No more straining your back trying to get it out the window….

RBS

Ha! I was thinking of foamy nerf-like material made into a desk that has Velcro attachments for the legs, top, etc. It would be like those bricks you can throw at the TV or the little ref dolls you can rip apart when you don’t like a call in a game.

The nice thing about foam…you can run down on the sidewalk, pick up the pieces and put it all back together in a minute or two and be ready to rip it apart again and again.

320 Gus  Jul 18, 2014 7:05:32am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

DIM JIM HAS TEH BUTTHURT

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BOLOGNA

Lede.

FEDS TO OPEN $50 MILLION RESORT FOR ILLEGAL CHILDREN - Complete With Tennis Courts, Sauna & Pools (Updated)

A) Not a $50 million resort.
B) Wasn’t going to be a “RESORT FOR ILLEGAL CHILDREN.”

Still bullshit Dim Jim, et al.

321 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 7:05:37am

re: #318 geoffm33

Yep. They are all in some secret lot in Hollywood hanging out on the moon landing set.

And no doubt having a cup of coffee and listening to humorous anecdotes from Stanley Kubrick, who of course, is still alive.

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322 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 7:06:04am

re: #316 makeitstop

Hey
Now it’s two Malaysian airliners ,,,, one “missing”,, the other “never took off”

Coincidence??

I think not!!

//

323 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 7:06:20am

You know, I was angry at the BS Dim Jim published a few days ago, and now I’m even more pissed off.

I might page it.

324 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:11:08am

re: #84 Stanley Sea

You’ll definitely get your mate that way.

Long, long ago, I was driving down a main road an these 12 guys were walking along, one of them with a giant boom box (did I mention it was long, long ago?) and all of a sudden they all stopped, started boogieing on the side of the road for about 20 seconds, then kept right on walking.

I was laughing so hard I could barely see through the tears.

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 7:11:35am

re: #322 sattv4u2

Hey
Now it’s two Malaysian airliners ,,,, one “missing”,, the other “never took off”

Coincidence??

I think not!!

//

The one just destroyed was the “missing” one that they had repainted in order to hide it. It is now in plain sight and no one suspects. It just took them a while to generate the false backgrounds of all the non-existent victims.
/

326 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 7:12:15am

re: #325 Feline Fearless Leader

The one just destroyed was the “missing” one that they had repainted in order to hide it. It is now in plain sight and no one suspects. It just took them a while to generate the false backgrounds of all the non-existent victims.
/

Those devious bastards!!!!

327 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 18, 2014 7:12:24am

re: #323 wheat-dogghazi

Doesn’t he claim to be a journalist? “Blogger” (at least bad bloggers) take a news story as fact and report on it. Journalists vet the story and report the truth.

328 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 7:12:46am

re: #317 Pie-onist Overlord

So all the passengers on MH17 are in the same seekrit gubmit concentration camp where they are holding the passengers from Flight 77 “that never crashed into the Pentagon”

My guess is they’re all hanging out in the hangar with the other Malaysian Airlines plane. Or something.

329 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 7:15:25am

Once caught, will the perpetrator also be charged for littering!!?!?!

Human Head Discovered In Hempstead Yard
Pair of Arms Also Found In Same Residential Area Of Long Island Last Week

newyork.cbslocal.com

330 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2014 7:16:10am

re: #328 makeitstop

My guess is they’re all hanging out in the hangar with the other Malaysian Airlines plane. Or something.

And smoking doobs with OBL and Jimmy Hoffa.

331 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 7:17:14am

re:
#314

Hurr hurr

332 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 7:19:36am

re:
#316

Who is behind the Before Its News website?

333 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:22:38am

re: #114 teleskiguy

A lot of what ends up in the pages ends up at TPM or Andrew sullivan or whatever DAYS after they were posted at LGF. Can’t get too much by an informed lizard.

I read Pages daily. You definitely get caught up on everything. It’s great that all the Lizards having different interests post news and stuff…it’s like a one-stop-shop for everything awesome.

334 piratedan  Jul 18, 2014 7:27:44am

Dear Mr. Hoft,

I’m sorry that you didn’t pay enough attention in school to understand context and critical thinking. Maybe you were sick that day or perhaps the school and the teachers simply failed you. For that, I humbly apologize. Maybe there’s a local junior college you could access to obtain these very critical skills that every blogger needs.

Thanks,

PirateDan

335 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 7:28:06am

LOL!

336 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 7:29:30am

Doesn’t Dim Jim still owe Wonkette $3000 for some stupid reward he posted (“Gatewaypundit will pay $3000 to anyone who can show nazi signs at a Tea Party gathering”)

337 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 7:29:45am
338 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 7:30:22am
339 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 7:30:40am

Dear Jim,

We are sorry that you are so stupid. It must really suck to be you.

340 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:31:53am

I believe I can safely predict that today

A) Some of my clients will mention the passing of Elaine Stritch

B) Most of my fellow happy hour elbow-benders will mention the passing of Johnny Winter

But who knows, the day is young as we all grow older.

341 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:32:19am

re: #176 teleskiguy

He’s gonna have to drop this persona when he hits The Late Show.

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I don’t think that is a persona…I think that’s just Stephen Colbert (Col-Bert), comedian.

342 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:34:24am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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Morning Charles. I see you’ve found our early morning entertaining headline of the day. Good ol’ Dim Jim is always good for a laugh.

343 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:34:40am

re: #187 GlutenFreeJesus

All I’d really have to ask this guy is “Why would Putin be flying over Ukiraine?”, but I’ll have fun with him for awhile. He’s got a Russian last name. :)

In a passenger jet with its giant “I am a passenger jet” radar signature and MALAYSIA AIRLINES splashed across the sides, no less.

344 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:36:00am

re: #343 Joanne

In a passenger jet with its giant “I am a passenger jet” radar signature and MALAYSIA AIRLINES splashed across the sides, no less.

Well, in fairness, the theory probably goes that Putin was flying in a different plane and MH17 got hit on accident. No one is going to come out and say the airliner was shot down on purpose, except the complete drooling wrecks who think it’s the same plane as MH370.

345 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 7:36:01am

re: #343 Joanne

In a passenger jet with its giant “I am a passenger jet” radar signature and MALAYSIA AIRLINES splashed across the sides, no less.

HEY VONYA, HOLD MY VODKA AND WATCH THIS!!!!

346 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:36:38am

It’s morning. it’s still Spring in my part of the world.

AND

I can still breathe! (thru my nose)

Station: Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 07/18/2014

*********************************
Pollen & Mold Summary
*********************************
Trees: Low Concentration
Weeds: Low Concentration
Grass: Absent
Mold: Moderate Concentration

you?

347 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 7:37:37am

You broke it. You bought it.

It was Gateway Pundit that claimed it was a $50 million luxury resort for illegals.

It was nothing of the sort. He and that guest “poster” implied and explicitly claimed it was a luxury resort - both in the headlines and text.

It was nothing of the sort. It was never going to be anything of that sort.

It was his dishonest smears that led DCFS to kill the proposal, along with the $50 million in economic benefits to the area. For all the talk about jobs, that dishonest smear killed jobs. Weslaco deserves an apology for this nonsense from Jim. They’re the ones who got screwed by this smear, along with the people who would have been served by this charitable group who has done good work across a wide range of missions worldwide to care for the needy.

348 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:38:19am

Would someone be really nice to me (because it’s morning) and give me the skinny on the Malaysia Airplane downing?

349 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 7:39:20am

re: #344 thedopefishlives

The theory is whatever the nutters want the theory to be. Facts be damned.

Whoever gave the order to shoot the SAM murdered nearly 300 people in cold blood. Whoever fired the missile likewise murdered 300 people - knowing full well that it was a civilian airliner.

350 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:41:05am

re: #348 FemNaziBitch

Would someone be really nice to me (because it’s morning) and give me the skinny on the Malaysia Airplane downing?

Some trigger-happy Russian thought he was shooting down a Ukrainian cargo plane and nailed a Malaysian Airlines 777 instead. Killed 298 people, including 23 US citizens (if the actual passenger list matches the ticket count). The Russian separatists initially admitted to shooting down a plane, but went on a Twitter deleting spree as soon as they realized they’d shot down someone else’s civilian airliner. Now Russia and Ukraine are pointing fingers at each other and it’s a whole big ugly mess.

351 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:41:44am

re: #350 thedopefishlives

Some trigger-happy Russian thought he was shooting down a Ukrainian cargo plane and nailed a Malaysian Airlines 777 instead. Killed 298 people, including 23 US citizens (if the actual passenger list matches the ticket count). The Russian separatists initially admitted to shooting down a plane, but went on a Twitter deleting spree as soon as they realized they’d shot down someone else’s civilian airliner. Now Russia and Ukraine are pointing fingers at each other and it’s a whole big ugly mess.

lovely

Thanks for the update!

352 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 7:41:50am

re: #348 FemNaziBitch

Would someone be really nice to me (because it’s morning) and give me the skinny on the Malaysia Airplane downing?

A ML flight was shot down over the eastern Ukraine - killing 295 people.

The Ukraine government says it was the separatists, probably with explicit or implicit Russian help.

The separatists, after crowing yesterday in tweets about downing a Ukrainian military transport at roughly that time, and saying they had an operational BUK system, deleted the tweets and claimed the Ukrainians did it since they don’t have a missile system capable of it.

The Russians say that the Ukrainians are responsible since it happened over the Ukraine. And, of course, that there is trouble in the region because they refused to roll over and let Russia occupy them without a fuss.

353 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 7:44:07am

re: #352 Feline Fearless Leader

A ML flight was shot down over the eastern Ukraine - killing 295 people.

The Ukraine government says it was the separatists, probably with explicit or implicit Russian help.

The separatists, after crowing yesterday in tweets about downing a Ukrainian military transport at roughly that time, and saying they had an operational BUK system, deleted the tweets and claimed the Ukrainians did it since they don’t have a missile system capable of it.

The Russians say that the Ukrainians are responsible since it happened over the Ukraine. And, of course, that there is trouble in the region because they refused to roll over and let Russia occupy them without a fuss.

HURR HURR!!!! OBAMA DID IT TO DISTRACT FROM THE BORDER WHICH IS TO DISTRACT FROM BENGHAZI!!!!!!

HURR HURR!!!! TEH ZIONISTS DID IT TO DISTRACT FROM TEH INVASION OF GAZA!!!!!!

354 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:46:09am

Advice for foreigners on how Britons walk

355 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:46:17am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! OBAMA DID IT TO DISTRACT FROM THE BORDER WHICH IS TO DISTRACT FROM BENGHAZI!!!!!!

HURR HURR!!!! TEH ZIONISTS DID IT TO DISTRACT FROM TEH INVASION OF GAZA!!!!!!

I figured it was something like that.

356 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:46:36am

re: #258 thedopefishlives

Speaking of American Christians…not so Christ-like.

I was watching this show Who the Bleep Did I Marry? and this guy beat, raped, choked his wife and she finally had enough and he got jail time. CA requires her to pay spousal support - for which she got a “rape discount” in paying less than the norm, and took her case to Sacramento and got the law changed. But this is the woman hating, “Christian” take on it.

357 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:47:20am

re: #356 Joanne

Ugh. Not really what I want to get into this early in the morning. My flamethrower isn’t warmed up yet.

358 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:48:00am

re: #355 FemNaziBitch

I figured it was something like that.

Yeah, there’s a lot of that going around, too. The derp has been frantic since the news broke.

359 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2014 7:48:53am

re: #337 Charles Johnson

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I know this will get deleted, but here’s my $0.02.

You’re the one that should apologize, you twat. You cost the city and local economy $50m, and forced a BAPTIST charity organization to abandon their good-intentioned plans of helping children in need.

I guess if you want a wingnut to care about you, you should remain a fetus. As long as you’re in the womb, they will literally kill to save you (How’s that for “pro-life”). But once you’re umbilical cord is cut, screw you, you nasty little free-loading brown person.

360 Romantic Heretic  Jul 18, 2014 7:49:58am

re: #266 Lidane

The “constitutional conservative” history buff I’ve known since high school posted this on his FB page the other day:

I wasn’t quite sure how to interpret that.

What he means is that since the KGB (and their descendants) have no limits on what they can do anything they find must therefore be the truth.

361 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:50:54am

Americans Are Leaving Religion Behind and It Scares the Hell Out of the Christian Right

Take Fox News host Gretchen Carlson in an interview with WorldNetDaily, where she explained why she felt the need to participate in a Christian right movie called “Persecuted” that laughably posits that there’s some kind of attack on the right of American Christians to practice their faith. Carlson argued that Christians are being persecuted by not being able to foist their faith on others, complaining about “petitions at state governors’ offices during the Christmas season to put up a ‘Festivus pole’ - from the made-up holiday of ‘Festivus’ from the ‘Seinfeld’ TV show - next to a Christian crèche on public lands.” She also bemoaned the disappearance of crèches around town during Christmas, implying that her neighbors have an obligation to decorate for Christmas so that she and her kids feel satisfied that their beliefs are still dominant.

Yeah, it’s Paged.

362 Romantic Heretic  Jul 18, 2014 7:52:52am

re: #278 thedopefishlives

What the… How the…

*flips desk, sets on fire*

I’m going to start a desk manufacturing business. At the rate desks are being destroyed around here I’ll make a mint.

364 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:53:22am

re: #362 Romantic Heretic

I’m going to start a desk manufacturing business. At the rate desks are being destroyed around here I’ll make a mint.

You need to connect with RBS and his patent-pending Balsawood desk line.

365 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 7:53:39am

re: #347 lawhawk

You broke it. You bought it.

It was Gateway Pundit that claimed it was a $50 million luxury resort for illegals.

It was nothing of the sort. He and that guest “poster” implied and explicitly claimed it was a luxury resort - both in the headlines and text.

It was nothing of the sort. It was never going to be anything of that sort.

It was his dishonest smears that led DCFS to kill the proposal, along with the $50 million in economic benefits to the area. For all the talk about jobs, that dishonest smear killed jobs. Weslaco deserves an apology for this nonsense from Jim. They’re the ones who got screwed by this smear, along with the people who would have been served by this charitable group who has done good work across a wide range of missions worldwide to care for the needy.

I really shouldn’t care, but why did Kristinn type

BCFS (formerly Baptist Child and Family Services)

Formerly? So they aren’t Baptist anymore? Way to deny attacking a religious org?

pitiful.

366 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 7:53:51am

We can post this as a meme.

367 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:54:34am

re: #314 Pie-onist Overlord

Speaking of Derp:

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How long before Stockman is tweeting from a jail cell?

368 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 7:54:51am

re: #359 GlutenFreeJesus

I know this will get deleted, but here’s my $0.02.

I got into a long argument with a couple of Facebook wingnuts yesterday, and they completely refused to acknowledge that it’s kids we’re talking about here. To a person, they would only call them ‘illegals.’

I called them out on it repeatedly and told them that their refusal to acknowledge them as children was a dodge to mask their complete lack of compassion for children. It’s absolutely stunning to me that they are so blinded by their need to bash Obama that they completely dehumanize innocents, but I guess I should have expected nothing different.

Their indifference to the suffering of children is horrific, and they have zero claim to any moral high ground on this one. None.

369 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 7:56:09am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

LOL!

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You should apologize for doing our fact-checking for us!!! That ‘Gus’ has a lot of nerve!!!11!1!

371 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 7:56:59am

re: #317 Pie-onist Overlord

So all the passengers on MH17 are in the same seekrit gubmit concentration camp where they are holding the passengers from Flight 77 “that never crashed into the Pentagon”

No, they’ve joined the passengers from the Malaysian airliner that disappeared over the Indian Ocean. Aliens, man…that’s where they all are. Aliens are no longer happy with the onesey-twosey approach to human abduction and probing. They want MOAR! MOAR HUMANS!

Hey, maybe they are zombie aliens! Brains! Moar brains! Yeah, that’s the ticket!

372 FemNaziBitch  Jul 18, 2014 7:57:27am

gotta go

Have a great day Lizards!

373 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 7:58:41am
374 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 7:59:20am

re:
#361

Take Fox News host Gretchen Carlson in an interview with WorldNetDaily

When you combine Fox News, Gretchen Carlson, and WorldNutsDaily in one phrase, you know the outcome can never be good.

375 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 8:00:56am

This guy probably needs a better hobby.

376 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 8:01:02am

re: #368 makeitstop

I got into a long argument with a couple of Facebook wingnuts yesterday, and they completely refused to acknowledge that it’s kids we’re talking about here. To a person, they would only call them ‘illegals.’

I called them out on it repeatedly and told them that their refusal to acknowledge them as children was a dodge to mask their complete lack of compassion for children. It’s absolutely stunning to me that they are so blinded by their need to bash Obama that they completely dehumanize innocents, but I guess I should have expected nothing different.

Their indifference to the suffering of children is horrific, and they have zero claim to any moral high ground on this one. None.

They know, deep down, it’s an immoral stance to take. They just refuse to let the cognitive dissonance break them.

377 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 8:02:07am

re: #347 lawhawk

And yes, I typo’d the DCFS, which should be BCFS. Have Department of Children and Family Services on the brain (it’s a NYC agency operating not too far from my own office).

378 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:02:42am

re: #373 wrenchwench

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Nevermore!

379 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 8:03:10am

re: #378 sattv4u2

Nevermore!

That’s ravens, ya dope.

380 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:03:33am

re: #379 thedopefishlives

That’s ravens, ya dope.

Baltimore Ravens?

381 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 8:03:34am

re:
#368

Hurr hurr liberuls don’t believe in right or wrong, everything’s relative, no absolutes, hurrhurrhurr

Liberal: We should care for these kids who are refugees and make sure they receive due process. It’s the right thing to do.

Hurr hurr Its and Invasion created by Obummer and thare Il-eagles and we need to send them back home and secure the border!!!1

382 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 8:06:11am

Fun with Statistics: House GOP edition

383 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 8:06:52am

And the DUDEBRO FACE gets bigger and bigger…

384 piratedan  Jul 18, 2014 8:07:51am

re: #383 Pie-onist OverlordThen feel free to come on back Eddie Baby!

385 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:08:52am

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

“If I end up in chains in Guantanamo, I can live with that”

See
I KNEW we could agree about things!!!

386 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 8:09:04am

re: #323 wheat-dogghazi

You know, I was angry at the BS Dim Jim published a few days ago, and now I’m even more pissed off.

I might page it.

I paged it. I feel better now. littlegreenfootballs.com

387 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 8:09:38am

So apparently there weren’t any Americans on the Malaysian flight?

388 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 8:10:37am

re: #387 Bulworth

So apparently there weren’t any Americans on the Malaysian flight?

It’s looking that way.

389 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2014 8:11:40am

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

And the DUDEBRO FACE gets bigger and bigger…

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So why doesn’t he come back to the USA? :)

390 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 8:12:05am

good morning all. Heard on Jose Diaz Beilart’s show this morning that a family in Australia who lost two people in the MH370 crash lost their daughter in the plane that was shot down. Absolutely horrible.

391 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 8:12:07am

re: #383 Pie-onist Overlord

And the DUDEBRO FACE gets bigger and bigger…

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He is looking stick-thin. Like sick-thin.

392 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 8:12:39am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s looking that way.

I heard something about a University of Indiana student being on the plane on The Daily Rundown this am.

393 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:12:58am

re: #387 Bulworth

So apparently there weren’t any Americans on the Malaysian flight?

The bulk of the passengers were from the Netherlands — 154 people. Next highest was 45 from Malaysia and 27 from Australia.

No American passengers have been confirmed dead. There are still 20 passengers whose nationalities have yet to be verified.

washington.cbslocal.com

394 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 8:12:59am

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s looking that way.

I wonder where the ‘23 Americans’ number came from, then?

Also - mention has been made of the AIDS activists and researchers en route to Melbourne.

It’s surprising to me that there wouldn’t be a single American among them.

395 Romantic Heretic  Jul 18, 2014 8:13:01am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

This guy probably needs a better hobby.

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Man, my gonads pulled up just looking at that. Obviously he was just letting them lie out in the open, letting the fuses, explosives and propellant deteriorate.

That was a disaster waiting to happen. A couple of those weapons are, I believe, incendiary bombs from WWII. An explosion would have spread thermite and white phosphorous all over the neighbourhood.

I’m glad the police got hold of this stuff. I don’t envy the Bomb Disposal people that have to clean up this mess.

396 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:13:49am

re: #390 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

good morning all. Heard on Jose Diaz Beilart’s show this morning that a family in Australia who lost two people in the MH370 crash lost their daughter in the plane that was shot down. Absolutely horrible.

Woman Who Lost Brother On Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Loses Stepdaughter On Flight 17

washington.cbslocal.com

397 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 8:14:53am

re: #391 Joanne

He is looking stick-thin. Like sick-thin.

Like ‘slowly being poisoned to death’ thin.

/ (half)

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 8:15:00am

According to CNN (yeah, I know…) none of the passengers checked in with a US passport.

399 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 8:15:22am

re: #396 sattv4u2

Woman Who Lost Brother On Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Loses Stepdaughter On Flight 17

washington.cbslocal.com

There was a Malaysian family of six — parents and their four kids — on that flight.

400 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:15:42am

re: #394 makeitstop

I wonder where the ‘23 Americans’ number came from, then?

Also - mention has been made of the AIDS activists and researchers en route to Melbourne.

It’s surprising to me that there wouldn’t be a single American among them.

There may very well (most likely) have been American AIDS activists and researchers en route to Melbourne. But, they also most likely would have gathered in/near California and proceeded to Melbourne that route. Doesn’t make sense to travel from the US to Europe to get to Australia

401 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 8:16:10am

re: #394 makeitstop

I wonder where the ‘23 Americans’ number came from, then?

Also - mention has been made of the AIDS activists and researchers en route to Melbourne.

It’s surprising to me that there wouldn’t be a single American among them.

It was an early report. I hadn’t heard that it had changed.

402 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 8:16:51am

re: #401 thedopefishlives

It was an early report. I hadn’t heard that it had changed.

see 393

403 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 8:18:10am

re: #400 sattv4u2

There may very well (most likely) have been American AIDS activists and researchers en route to Melbourne. But, they also most likely would have gathered in/near California and proceeded to Melbourne that route. Doesn’t make sense to travel from the US to Europe to get to Australia

Good point. Hadn’t thought of that.

404 Kid A  Jul 18, 2014 8:19:00am

Someone double check me on this but I think the link that Dim posts as the source of the original story is not the one he/they posted two days ago.

405 ObserverArt  Jul 18, 2014 8:19:22am

re: #390 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

good morning all. Heard on Jose Diaz Beilart’s show this morning that a family in Australia who lost two people in the MH370 crash lost their daughter in the plane that was shot down. Absolutely horrible.

Unimaginable the pain they must be going through. I cannot even think of anything else to say except the world can be cruel.

406 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 18, 2014 8:22:59am

re: #404 Kid A

Someone double check me on this but I think the link that Dim posts as the source of the original story is not the one he/they posted two days ago.

It is. I checked here:

web.archive.org

This is the 1st snapshot available in the archive. So it’s possible, but unlikely they changed it.

407 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 8:23:55am

re: #404 Kid A

Someone double check me on this but I think the link that Dim posts as the source of the original story is not the one he/they posted two days ago.

Someone besides me will have to do it. China blocks Blogspot, which is where Dim JIm hosts his blog.

Now that you mention it, I don’t recall Taylor using the same source in the first as he mentions in the second blog.

408 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 18, 2014 8:28:15am

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409 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 8:48:16am

re: #365 Stanley Sea

I really shouldn’t care, but why did Kristinn type

BCFS (formerly Baptist Child and Family Services)

Formerly? So they aren’t Baptist anymore? Way to deny attacking a religious org?

pitiful.

Sounded like BCFS might be a name change to their logo.

410 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 8:52:50am

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Sounded like BCFS might be a name change to their logo.

Well, if that’s the case, no wonder the right hates them. #WarOnChristianity for removing Baptist from their name.

411 Eventual Carrion  Jul 18, 2014 8:53:27am

re: #365 Stanley Sea

I really shouldn’t care, but why did Kristinn type

BCFS (formerly Baptist Child and Family Services)

Formerly? So they aren’t Baptist anymore? Way to deny attacking a religious org?

pitiful.

KFC (formerly Kentucky Fried Chicken)

412 Skip Intro  Jul 18, 2014 4:01:27pm

The only thing that keeps me going these days, and the chance of it happening are somewhere between zero and nil.


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