Russia Today’s Sara Firth Resigns Over MH17 Coverage

Another of RT’s propaganda babes bails out
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Another one of Russia Today’s “correspondents” resigned today: Russia Today Correspondent Sara Firth Resigns Over Coverage of Ukrainian Plane Crash.

Firth, who joined the channel in 2009, told BuzzFeed that she decided to resign from the Kremlin-funded news channel because she felt it was “disrespectfully” attempting to pin the blame for Thursday’s Malaysia Airlines disaster on the Ukrainian government.

“When this story broke I ran back into the newsroom and saw how we were covering it already and I just knew I had to go,” she said.

“It was the total disregard to the facts. We threw up eyewitness accounts from someone on the ground openly accusing the Ukrainian government [of involvement in the disaster], and a correspondent in the studio pulled up a plane crash before that the Ukrainian government had been involved in and said it was ‘worth mentioning’.

“It’s not worth mentioning. It’s Russia Today all over, it’s flirting with that border of overtly lying. You’re not telling a lie, you’re just bringing something up. I didn’t want to watch a story like that, where people have lost loved ones and we’re handling it like that.

“I couldn’t do it any more. Every single day we’re lying and finding sexier ways to do it.”

Uh, well, yeah. Good on Sara Firth for finally doing the right thing, but let’s face the facts: anyone who willingly goes to work for Russia Today knows what they’re getting into — the agenda is not exactly hidden — and they do it to advance their careers, truth be damned. These sudden attacks of conscience look more like belated concern for their own reputations.

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422 comments
1 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 10:53:32am

HURR HURR SEE RUSSIA TODAY IS LEGIT AND TOTALLY NOT A MOUTHPIECE FOR PUTIN PROPAGANDA!!!1!1one

2 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 10:55:57am

I imagine most of RT staffers are eager hacks who got laughed out of getting real journalism jobs and are just so happy to be “in the business”, they willingly parrot what ever they’re told. Whenever one of them notices they’re nothing but a dupe, its nice, but you have to think “Well, duh. What took you so long?”

3 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 10:57:51am

re: #2 Kragar

I imagine most of RT staffers are eager hacks who got laughed out of getting real journalism jobs and are just so happy to be “in the business”, they willingly parrot what ever they’re told. Whenever one of them notices they’re nothing but a dupe, its nice, but you have to think “Well, duh. What took you so long?”

And yet it’s still amazing to me to see people who consider RT a legitimate news outlet and now blatant Kremlin propaganda.

Maybe they just don’t want to see that.

4 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 10:58:32am

Weren’t the nutters screaming yesterday about the State Department saying nothing about the 23 American victims?

So they basically made up the 23 Americans dead, then got outraged over it

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:00:11am

re: #4 Kragar

Weren’t the nutters screaming yesterday about the State Department saying nothing about the 23 American victims?

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So they basically made up the 23 Americans dead, then got outraged over it

Even if there were 23 Americans, DOS would contact all the next of kin before releasing the names to the public.

6 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 11:02:27am

re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord

Even if there were 23 Americans, DOS would contact all the next of kin before releasing the names to the public.

For sure. Even if 23 Americans had been booked on the flight, the State Dept would make damn sure to track them down and verify that they had been on the plane at the time before issuing a statement

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 11:02:29am

Foust said it this morning right after Sara tweeted about her resignation:

8 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 11:04:09am

re: #4 Kragar

Weren’t the nutters screaming yesterday about the State Department saying nothing about the 23 American victims?

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So they basically made up the 23 Americans dead, then got outraged over it

Actually, I think that claim originally came from the Ukrainian Interior Ministry:

9 allegro  Jul 18, 2014 11:04:27am

The nationalities of those murdered doesn’t mean squat. Even if there were 100 Americans on board it wouldn’t make the tragedy any greater than it already is.

10 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 11:04:54am
11 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 11:05:09am

re: #9 allegro

The nationalities of those murdered doesn’t mean squat. Even if there were 100 Americans on board it wouldn’t make the tragedy any greater than it already is.

Nope. And even 1 US citizen is cause enough for us to be interested in the results of the investigation.

12 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 11:06:07am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Actually, I think that claim originally came from the Ukrainian Interior Ministry:

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So where did the other 22 victims go?

I smell a cover up.

/Alexjonesmode enabled

13 Mattand  Jul 18, 2014 11:06:38am

Well, given Ms. Firth’s resume of working for a propaganda machine, she shouldn’t have any trouble landing a job at The Intercept or Fox News.

14 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 11:07:03am

Found that tweet right away using the Media Library, by the way. Very handy for finding tweets you posted.

15 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 11:07:30am

Its almost like reports are confused in the immediate aftermath of a disaster and it takes a while to sort out the truth.

16 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 11:08:54am

re: #13 Mattand

Well, given Ms. Firth’s resume of working for a propaganda machine, she shouldn’t have any trouble landing a job at The Intercept or Fox News.

Well played, sir. Well played, indeed.

17 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:10:14am

re: #15 Kragar

Its almost like reports are confused in the immediate aftermath of a disaster and take a while to sort out the truth.

That’s just what they want you to think.

18 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 11:10:38am

re: #15 Kragar

yeah, funny how that works. I think the internet is making people even more stupid than they were before, and that’s saying something.

19 piratedan  Jul 18, 2014 11:10:40am

RT propaganda babes resigning….well the next thing you know, one of the Faux News blonde anchors will claim that she likes sex and takes birth control…. although that doesn’t exactly rule out that it would be Steve Doocy. /////

20 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 11:13:57am

re: #19 piratedan

RT propaganda babes resigning….well the next thing you know, one of the Faux News blonde anchors will claim that she likes sex and takes birth control…. although that doesn’t exactly rule out that it would be Steve Doocy. /////

Ew.

(reaches for brain bleach.)

21 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:15:12am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Found that tweet right away using the Media Library, by the way. Very handy for finding tweets you posted.

Great resource! Much better than the lame search tool on the actual Twitters.

BTW Prudence deleted her Tweet about Air Force One.

22 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 11:15:23am

Maybe Ed Snowden will get her job.

23 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:16:20am

re: #22 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe Ed Snowden will get her job.

“The Dudebro Face of Russia Today”

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:16:44am

I wonder if this picture was taken while they were playing “Hail to the Chief”

25 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 11:18:33am

re: #9 allegro

The nationalities of those murdered doesn’t mean squat. Even if there were 100 Americans on board it wouldn’t make the tragedy any greater than it already is.

True. But the US media companies don’t believe that.

26 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:20:09am
27 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:20:40am

Rush Limbaugh:

Well, did you hear that the White House put out a photo of Obama talking on the phone with Vlad, and Obama’s sleeves were rolled up? That was done to make it look like Obama was really working hard—I mean, really taking it seriously. His sleeves were rolled up while on the phone with Putin! Putin probably had his shirt off practicing Tai-Chi while he was talking to Obama.

28 Dr. Matt  Jul 18, 2014 11:22:21am
29 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 11:23:18am

re: #27 jaunte

Rush Limbaugh:

Thats not true. Putin was strangling a tiger with one hand as two Russian supermodels orally pleasured him while he was on the phone with Obama, because that is the kind of manly man that Putin is.

30 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:23:43am

re: #29 Kragar

Plus miniature giraffes.

31 stpaulbear  Jul 18, 2014 11:24:20am

re: #23 jaunte

It would be interesting to hear what Snowden knows about the crash. He’s probably getting the same bullshit that everyone else in Russia is getting. Are his outside ‘friends’ able to update him on what’s going on?

32 aagcobb  Jul 18, 2014 11:24:22am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

I wonder if this picture was taken while they were playing “Hail to the Chief”

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Reagan suspended Aeroflot’s landing rights in the US for about 2 1/2 years for KAL 007. Big whoop.

33 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:25:07am

re: #31 stpaulbear

I don’t think they tell him anything.

34 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 11:25:45am

re:
#27

Another very policy-based, substantive critique Rush is making here. //

35 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 18, 2014 11:29:19am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

I wonder if this picture was taken while they were playing “Hail to the Chief”

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This might also be the salute of a President who is proud of his country, except that the skin color is a little off:
Obama Salute at Dover AFB, 2009

//

36 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:30:47am
37 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:36:02am
38 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 11:37:05am
39 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 18, 2014 11:37:45am

if only our friends at Fox News had the integrity some of RT’s “journalists” are displaying.

What the equivalent “Come to Jesus” moment of covering up a 290 passenger death airline crash would be for the mouthpieces at Fox News, I don’t know. It might take an even more blatant and tragic face palm than even this with the level of hubris and disregard for truth and facts displayed there on a daily basis.

40 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 11:37:51am
“It was the total disregard to the facts. We threw up eyewitness accounts from someone on the ground openly accusing the Ukrainian government [of involvement in the disaster], and a correspondent in the studio pulled up a plane crash before that the Ukrainian government had been involved in and said it was ‘worth mentioning’.

so they’re like FOX News then?

41 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 11:39:00am

re: #40 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

so they’re like FOX News then?

But more manly since it’s Putin TV.

42 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:39:21am

re: #38 Kragar

“He leads from behind”

They apparently have no thoughts of their own.

43 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:40:02am
44 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:40:39am

And the Dim Jim’s damage continues:

45 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 11:40:45am
46 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 11:40:51am

re: #39 Rocky-in-Connecticut

The thing is the majority of the FOX crew was hired, not because they had any journalistic integrity or skill for that matter. They were hired because they had no shame, had a bias and had no problem twisting the truth to their liking period.

47 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:40:58am

I mean what the hell does “He leads from behind” even mean?

Did Eisenhower storm the Normandy beaches in the first wave?
Would that have been a good idea?

48 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 11:42:09am

re: #43 Pie-onist Overlord

The anonymity of social media can turn relatively normal functioning adults into raging angry toddlers.Wrath and immaturity are “in the air”

(I think the rebbe has been watching our boob-pun threads.)

49 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 11:44:02am

Obama: I ‘Lose My Mind’ Around Chips and Guacamole

50 Dave In Austin  Jul 18, 2014 11:44:09am

re: #43 Pie-onist Overlord

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The more I read from this guy. The more I like him.

51 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 11:44:33am

re: #38 Kragar

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Wow. A devout critic that enjoys hindsight bias.

Classic.

52 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 11:44:50am

re: #46 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The thing is the majority of the FOX crew was hired, not because they had any journalistic integrity or skill for that matter. They were hired because they had no shame, had a bias and had no problem twisting the truth to their liking period.

Or they had huge … tracts of land.

53 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:45:26am

re: #37 Pie-onist Overlord

Cherry Pie

Is that an Angry Bird in the center?

54 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 11:45:27am

By the way - Dim Jim has been deleting every comment that supports me or points out how wrong he was. lol

55 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 11:45:45am

re: #52 thedopefishlives

Or they had huge … tracts of land.

Perky, welcoming tracts of land.

56 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 11:46:29am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

By the way - Dim Jim has been deleting every comment that supports me or points out how wrong he was. lol

And this is what they want to do with anyone who disagrees with them, should they come to power. Folks, think about who you’re supporting. Look at what they do to dissenters.

57 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 11:46:30am

Those commenters really don’t seem to like me very much. My self-esteem has suffered a major hit, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to go on.

OK, I’m over it now.

58 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:47:38am

re: #53 Joanne

Is that an Angry Bird in the center?

That is a steam-venting Pie Bird

59 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 11:47:49am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

By the way - Dim Jim has been deleting every comment that supports me or points out how wrong he was. lol

Well of course he is. Because Freedom.

60 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 11:48:36am

re:
#44

OK, so we’ve heard from the Christian Conservative wing of the Republican Party. What do other Republicans think?

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61 nines09  Jul 18, 2014 11:48:41am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

By the way - Dim Jim has been deleting every comment that supports me or points out how wrong he was. lol

Facts disturb Dimmy.

62 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:48:48am

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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Obama: I ‘Lose My Mind’ Around Chips and Guacamole

The Obama’s humanity absolutely kills them.

And the tone of that article at Politico was pathetic.

63 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:48:55am
64 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 11:48:59am

re: #60 Bulworth

re:
#44

OK, so we’ve heard from the Christian Conservative wing of the Republican Party. What do other Republicans think?

////

There are other Republicans?

65 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 11:49:05am
Israeli, Palestinian teens meet in Carlsbad
Hands of Peace conference brings together youth on both sides of conflict for dialogue, friendship

utsandiego.com

Good article. Great program.

66 blueraven  Jul 18, 2014 11:49:09am

Speaking of bad journalists.

This CNN “security analyst” is constantly bad mouthing the Obama admin on foreign policy. My impression is that she is a hawk and not a very bright one.

Meh - anyone can get punked, but since this is supposedly within her area of expertise…

67 jamesfirecat  Jul 18, 2014 11:49:38am

re: #47 jaunte

I mean what the hell does “He leads from behind” even mean?

Did Eisenhower storm the Normandy beaches in the first wave?
Would that have been a good idea?

It would have been a horrible idea for the guy in overall command to go ashore.

That said to be fair

General Theodore Roosevelt, Jr went ashore with the first wave at Utah, resulting in the famous “We’ll start the war from right here!” and capturing the Beach section he decided to have us land at with only around 200 casualties.

Granted this just goes to show that the Roosevelt family is awesome from start to finish, but I mainly brought it up because of just how awesome /interesting it is…

68 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 11:49:46am

re: #63 Pie-onist Overlord

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:(

69 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:51:17am

re: #58 Pie-onist Overlord

That is a steam-venting Pie Bird

I have never made a pie, but that is awesomely cool!

I did love the bundt pan you posted earlier. I am more of a cake gal (well, truth be told, I am a total Cookie Monster), myself.

70 Jack Burton  Jul 18, 2014 11:51:36am

re: #2 Kragar

I imagine most of RT staffers are eager hacks who got laughed out of getting real journalism jobs and are just so happy to be “in the business”, they willingly parrot what ever they’re told. Whenever one of them notices they’re nothing but a dupe, its nice, but you have to think “Well, duh. What took you so long?”

The 6-figure salary that they were getting helped.

71 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:51:44am

re: #59 Kragar

Well of course he is. Because Freedom.

Yeah, freedom to say whatever the heck you want with no repercussions whatsoever.

72 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 11:52:00am

re: #60 Bulworth

re:
#44

OK, so we’ve heard from the Christian Conservative wing of the Republican Party. What do other Republicans think?

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There are other Republicans?

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73 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:52:49am

re: #67 jamesfirecat

I just get tired of hearing the same cliched statements umpteen times. It’s clear that they would prefer someone who makes them feel safe and taken care of by immediately having a solution to every problem, but the world just doesn’t work like that fantasy.

74 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 11:53:08am

re: #67 jamesfirecat

It would have been a horrible idea for the guy in overall command to go ashore.

That said to be fair

General Theodore Roosevelt, Jr went ashore with the first wave at Utah, resulting in the famous “We’ll start the war from right here!” and capturing the Beach section he decided to have us land at with only around 200 casualties.

Granted this just goes to show that the Roosevelt family is awesome from start to finish, but I mainly brought it up because of just how awesome /interesting it is…

But

Up through the Civil War, Brigadier was a pretty good way to get killed. At one point in Vietnam, the proportion for 2LT was so bad the Army tried to come up with fixes.

75 nines09  Jul 18, 2014 11:53:40am

Russia Today is looking and acting more and more like Russia Yesterday.

76 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:54:13am

re: #66 blueraven

Speaking of bad journalists.

This CNN “security analyst” is constantly bad mouthing the Obama admin on foreign policy. My impression is that she is a hawk and not a very bright one.

Meh - anyone can get punked, but since this is supposedly within her area of expertise…

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Townsend is a signatory from the PNAC days. Signed the letter to Clinton to invade Iraq in the 90s. Not an impression, m’friend…a fact.

77 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 11:54:38am

re: #70 Jack Burton

The 6-figure salary that they were getting helped.

They were young, and needed the money for college.

78 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:54:51am

re: #72 Lidane

There are other Republicans?

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That was my first (and only) thought.

79 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:55:22am

From today’s Townhall propaganda email:

How dare the president eat a “juicy burger” at times like these. He should fast, or have dry crackers.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:57:00am

Wingnut Threeper gun-fuckers gay pr0n

81 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 11:57:13am
82 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:57:24am

re: #79 jaunte

From today’s Townhall propaganda email:
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How dare the president eat a “juicy burger” at times like these. He should fast, or have dry crackers.

No, to them he should just not eat at all and just die already.

83 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 11:58:02am

re: #82 Joanne

No, to them he should just not eat at all and just die already.

WHY DOESN’T HE EAT MICHELLE’S CRAPPY SCHOOL LUNCHES HURR HURR

84 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 11:58:18am

re:
#79

Republicans never do fundraisers. /

85 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 11:58:43am

re: #82 Joanne

“Churchill Drinks Brandy As Europe Burns!”

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 11:58:58am

From WaPo today:

RT distinguishes itself from many U.S. media outlets in its willingness to address staff defections. Anna Belkina, RT’s head of communications, sent these words, among others, about Firth’s resignation:

Sara has declared that she chooses the truth; apparently we have different definitions of truth. We believe that truth is what our reporters see on the ground, with their own eyes, and not what’s printed in the morning London newspaper. In our coverage, RT, unlike the rest of the media, did not draw conclusions before the official investigation has even begun. We show all sides of the story, even if everyone else has already decided which side is to blame.

When the Erik Wemple Blog read that statement to Firth over the phone, she short-circuited for a moment. “Oh my gosh, it’s amazing — what is the right word for it even? That’s what’s so crazy about RT, this idea that they have about versions of the truth. They took an eyewitness account and blamed the Ukrainian government” very early, she said. “It’s all about pointing fingers for them and manipulating the truth.”

87 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 12:00:28pm
88 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 12:01:06pm
“In a piece largely aimed at Charles Johnson, who has led the debunking at Little Green Footballs, Mr. Taylor demands “major apologies” from everyone — including Yrwonkette — who criticized Gateway Pundit’s error-filled report claiming that the federal government was opening a “$50 million luxury resort for illegal children, complete with tennis Courts, sauna & pools.” We would like to submit our apology to Mssrs. Taylor and Hoft right now: We’re very sorry that both of you are A Idiot, you syphilitic dicks.”
89 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 12:01:07pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

Great piece by Tommy Christopher on how Fox News helped spread Jim Hoft’s evil lies thedailybanter.com …

Conservative media online toilet Gateway Pundit got word of the plan and lied their asses off about it, then Fox News lied even more loudly about it, and BCFS was forced to scrap the plan.

Heh.

90 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 12:01:21pm

re: #80 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnut Threeper gun-fuckers gay pr0n

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Actually, this is the mother duck of the Three Percenters.

Image: Mike-Vanderboegh-courtesy-malephoto.com_.jpg

(He’s sick now, and has lost a lot of the gut from his glory days.)

91 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:05:46pm

and this crap keeps getting spammed in my TL since this morning.
I can’t remember the actual event information, but it’s not what the eejits are claiming.

92 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 12:07:04pm

Category “Unsurprising”

Vienna (Alliance News) - Pro-Russian separatists have prevented monitors from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) from fully inspecting the site where a Malaysia Airlines jet crashed, a Swiss diplomat says.

“They did not have the freedom of movement they need,” Swiss Ambassador Thomas Greminger says, representing his country’s current OSCE chairmanship, adding that the observers would try again to gain access on Saturday.

Shots were fired in the vicinity but not at the group of 17 monitors, a source close to the OSCE says.

93 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 12:07:29pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

and this crap keeps getting spammed in my TL since this morning.
I can’t remember the actual event information, but it’s not what the eejits are claiming.

[Embedded content]

It’s from a demonstration back in March against Israeli conscription.

94 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 12:07:39pm

re:
#88

Damn, was that as good for you as it was for me?

Also, would just like to take this opportunity to say how proud I am to post comments here to such an irrelevant/ website.

95 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 12:07:45pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

and this crap keeps getting spammed in my TL since this morning.
I can’t remember the actual event information, but it’s not what the eejits are claiming.

[Embedded content]

96 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:08:00pm

re: #93 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s from a demonstration back in March against Israeli conscription.

thank you!

97 aagcobb  Jul 18, 2014 12:08:05pm

re: #87 jaunte

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awesome takedown

98 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 12:09:34pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sunday, June 9, 2013
Recap and report on Atzeres protest against draft of yeshiva students in New York June 9th at Federal plaza

Tens of Thousands of Yidden attended the Atzeres/rally in lower Manhattan, federal Plaza against the drafting of Bnei Hayeshivos to the Israeli Army. The Demonstration was organized by Satmar and joined by many other Admorim, Chasidim and Roshei yeshiva as well.
thepartialview.blogspot.com

99 nines09  Jul 18, 2014 12:09:56pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Actually, this is the mother duck of the Three Percenters.

Image: Mike-Vanderboegh-courtesy-malephoto.com_.jpg

(He’s sick now, and has lost a lot of the gut from his glory days.)

He was asking a lot from those camo suspenders.

100 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 12:10:13pm

re: #87 jaunte

Key Graf, which should warm the heart of John Wheaton, who was quoted:

Well, actually, as John Wheaton notes in his reply at LGF,
Yes, it is entirely your fault, because nowhere in your article do you point out that BCFS was planning to renovate the facility, which would mean all the “luxury resort” amenities would be gone. (Hint: the Palm Aire is a 3-star tourist hotel, NOT a resort.) No, instead, you implied (falsely) that the immigrants were going to be housed in a luxury resort worth $50 million, paid for entirely with government funds. That’s certainly what your screaming headline would lead the casual reader to conclude.

Read more at wonkette.com

101 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 12:12:03pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

and this crap keeps getting spammed in my TL since this morning.
I can’t remember the actual event information, but it’s not what the eejits are claiming.

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The Neturei Karta (the nutters who protest in all the anti-Israel demonstrations) are the Jewish equivalent of the Westboro, but there are actually only a few dozen of them.

The Satmar are a very large Hasidic sect which some of the Neturei Karta belong to, but most Satmar are not NK.

I think Haredim should serve in the IDF (like my son) but since so many of them are fundamentalist wingnuts, does the IDF really need huge numbers of them WITH GUNS?

BTW not to disparage all Haredi Jews, I am Haredi and so is @JihadiJew.

102 AntonSirius  Jul 18, 2014 12:12:53pm

re: #13 Mattand

Well, given Ms. Firth’s resume of working for a propaganda machine, she shouldn’t have any trouble landing a job at The Intercept or Fox News.

“…it’s flirting with that border of overtly lying. You’re not telling a lie, you’re just bringing something up.”

Next on Fox & Friends…

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:13:19pm

re: #93 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s from a demonstration back in March against Israeli conscription.

Is that the right link? That story is from 2013.

104 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 12:13:34pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Key Graf, which should warm the heart of John Wheaton, who was quoted:

Read more at wonkette.com

And a very nice hat tip to him right at the end!

105 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 12:15:06pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was a June 2013 protest against changes to the Israeli mandatory service law that had previously excluded the Haredi from military service. They had nothing to do with protesting against Israel.

Of course, because the usual klatch of Neturei Karta nitwits up at the front row with their usual signs against Israel, the anti-Israel kooks will claim that the gathering was all about Orthodox Jews all being against Israel.

106 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 12:15:44pm

re: #88 jaunte

Great props there for wheat-dogg.

107 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 12:16:17pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is that the right link? That story is from 2013.

I guess there was another demonstration in 2013.

Here’s the story from March.

Yeah yeah they all look alike. //

108 Bulworth  Jul 18, 2014 12:19:06pm

re:
#89

Conservative media online toilet Gateway Pundit

Yes, I enjoyed reading this description as well.

Hurr hurr I is award-winning online toilet!

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:19:32pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Key Graf, which should warm the heart of John Wheaton, who was quoted:

Read more at wonkette.com

Heh…I like the last line, too:

P.S.: Also, Jim Hoft still owes us $3150, so #paythefuckup.
Read more at wonkette.com

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 12:24:31pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

111 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 12:25:44pm

re: #110 Pie-onist Overlord

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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112 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 12:25:53pm

re: #110 Pie-onist Overlord

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Mr. Taylor, may I remind you, in cases of slander and defamation, the truth is an affirmative defense. You might not want to go there. Just sayin’.

113 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 12:27:06pm

Did I miss something here? Wasn’t the hotel in question up for sale and has been sitting empty for awhile? Or did I misunderstand?

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 12:28:09pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

Did I miss something here? Wasn’t the hotel in question up for sale and has been sitting empty for awhile? Or did I misunderstand?

It was up for sale but still operating as a third-rate, crappy motel.

115 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 18, 2014 12:28:12pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Key Graf, which should warm the heart of John Wheaton, who was quoted:

Read more at wonkette.com

Just as good…

Best,
Marty Kelley
a.k.a. Doktor Zoom
(If John Wheaton, a.k.a. Wheat-dogg, is willing to step out from behind his nom-de-blog for this, so am I. I’d also like to borrow his follow-up: “I trust you and your fans will use this information wisely and responsibly.”)

P.S.: Also, Jim Hoft still owes us $3150, so #paythefuckup.

116 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 12:30:58pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

Did I miss something here? Wasn’t the hotel in question up for sale and has been sitting empty for awhile? Or did I misunderstand?

For sale, yes, but still operating and accumulating bad reviews.

117 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 12:31:24pm

re: #110 Pie-onist Overlord

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mr. West, you claim to work for reputable publications. You must be familiar with the laws on defamation.

Kristenn put his Lawyer Pants on today, I see. /

Hasn’t gained a single IQ point since his days as RimJob’s spokesputz, either.

118 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 12:33:03pm

OFFS.

The airlines balk on upgrading their plane navigation systems so that they can do NEXTGEN, which would save everyone time and money in the long run for direct routing, but now we’re supposed to believe that the threat from flying through war zones (which doesn’t describe the US btw) is so bad that we need to install anti-missile tech on all civilian airlines.

Israel installed countermeasures on its flights, but that’s because those planes are the official airlines of a country whose citizens, property, and territory is under constant threat and attacks occur all too frequently. It’s not an insubstantial cost either.

In fact, Israel appears to have installed a system that got the FAA concerned because of a fire risk (flare system against infrared (heat) signature sensors). Another system is called C-Music.

Note too that the system that the Israelis have installed is largely to defend against MANPADs, not the system that appears to have brought down the Malaysian jet.

119 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 12:34:06pm

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

So those pictures of the place that the morons are posting are old then? If so, the first things to go to shit would be the pool and the spa areas. My husband does this stuff as part of his job, all it takes is a few days of not attending to a pool or spa properly and things go bad and become unsafe quickly. That doesn’t even take into account how well the buildings are maintained, which I’m guessing isn’t great or it wouldn’t be considered a crappy motel in the first place. Not to mention that the words “motel” and “luxury resort” don’t really match up.

But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way here. Idiots.

120 Gus  Jul 18, 2014 12:34:38pm

re: #118 lawhawk

Wingnuts are insane. This won’t happen.

121 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 12:35:29pm

re: #118 lawhawk

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OFFS.

The airlines balk on upgrading their plane navigation systems so that they can do NEXTGEN, which would save everyone time and money in the long run for direct routing, but now we’re supposed to believe that the threat from flying through war zones (which doesn’t describe the US btw) is so bad that we need to install anti-missile tech on all civilian airlines.

Israel installed countermeasures on its flights, but that’s because those planes are the official airlines of a country whose citizens, property, and territory is under constant threat and attacks occur all too frequently. It’s not an insubstantial cost either.

In fact, Israel appears to have installed a system that got the FAA concerned because of a fire risk (flare system against infrared (heat) signature sensors). Another system is called C-Music.

Note too that the system that the Israelis have installed is largely to defend against MANPADs, not the system that appears to have brought down the Malaysian jet.

Yup. And El-Al’s home base is the center of a more-or-less permanent low intensity war zone.

122 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 12:36:10pm

re: #118 lawhawk

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OFFS.

The airlines balk on upgrading their plane navigation systems so that they can do NEXTGEN, which would save everyone time and money in the long run for direct routing, but now we’re supposed to believe that the threat from flying through war zones (which doesn’t describe the US btw) is so bad that we need to install anti-missile tech on all civilian airlines.

Israel installed countermeasures on its flights, but that’s because those planes are the official airlines of a country whose citizens, property, and territory is under constant threat and attacks occur all too frequently. It’s not an insubstantial cost either.

In fact, Israel appears to have installed a system that got the FAA concerned because of a fire risk (flare system against infrared (heat) signature sensors). Another system is called C-Music.

Note too that the system that the Israelis have installed is largely to defend against MANPADs, not the system that appears to have brought down the Malaysian jet.

So much for the free-market?

123 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 12:36:32pm

re: #87 jaunte

the ending was so full of awesome:

Also, Kristinn Taylor, you vacuous bucket of spleen-squeezings, please learn something about pronouns when they’re the objects of prepositions. You’re continually using “Jim Hoft and I” when it should be “Jim Hoft and me,” which is a sure sign of A Idiot trying to sound smart. No charge for that.
Read more at wonkette.com

124 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 12:37:29pm
125 EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2014 12:38:16pm

re: #118 lawhawk

This business of arming US civilian airliners is 10 pounds of stupid in a 5 pound bag.

Being one of the better Senate Republicans apparently still leaves Mark Kirk all kinds of room to be the village idiot.

126 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 12:40:00pm

re: #125 EPR-radar

This business of arming US civilian airliners is 10 pounds of stupid in a 5 pound bag.

Being one of the better Senate Republicans apparently still leaves Mark Kirk all kinds of room to be the village idiot.

Overreactionism at its finest. Tell me, what good would installing countermeasures on US aircraft have done in this case? Oh that’s right, ABSOLUTELY ZERO BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT A US AIRCRAFT. Derp.

127 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 12:41:46pm

Errands done

Home chores now staring me in the face

These days off are gonna kill me

Can’t wait to go back to work so I can get some rest!!!

/

128 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 12:43:11pm

re: #126 thedopefishlives

Overreactionism at its finest. Tell me, what good would installing countermeasures on US aircraft have done in this case? Oh that’s right, ABSOLUTELY ZERO BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT A US AIRCRAFT. Derp.

Plus who pays for it. Airlines don’t want to - it takes up weight and maintenance time and reduces their profit margins further. So it would be a federal subsidy, further passenger fees, or something like that. And that’s assuming you find a worthwhile defense system that can handle a SAM system designed to shoot down cruise missiles and military attack aircraft.

So it boils down to emotional blathering in the heat of the moment.

129 Eventual Carrion  Jul 18, 2014 12:43:45pm

re: #30 jaunte

Plus miniature giraffes.

I would love a mini giraffe. I would hold him, and I would squeeze him, and I would call him George.

130 Gus  Jul 18, 2014 12:44:40pm

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

Plus who pays for it. Airlines don’t want to - it takes up weight and maintenance time and reduces their profit margins further. So it would be a federal subsidy, further passenger fees, or something like that. And that’s assuming you find a worthwhile defense system that can handle a SAM system designed to shoot down cruise missiles and military attack aircraft.

So it boils down to emotional blathering in the heat of the moment.

So basically, another Republican talking.

131 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 12:44:59pm

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

Plus who pays for it. Airlines don’t want to - it takes up weight and maintenance time and reduces their profit margins further. So it would be a federal subsidy, further passenger fees, or something like that. And that’s assuming you find a worthwhile defense system that can handle a SAM system designed to shoot down cruise missiles and military attack aircraft.

So it boils down to emotional blathering in the heat of the moment.

Point defense lasers. Who cares how expensive or what collateral damage they could do, just imagine a 787 with frickin’ lasers on it!

132 EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2014 12:46:07pm

re: #130 Gus

So basically, another Republican talking.

It’s a bit better than most Republican blather because it is merely stupid as opposed to being both stupid and evil.

133 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:46:21pm

re: #119 A Mom Anon

So those pictures of the place that the morons are posting are old then? If so, the first things to go to shit would be the pool and the spa areas. My husband does this stuff as part of his job, all it takes is a few days of not attending to a pool or spa properly and things go bad and become unsafe quickly. That doesn’t even take into account how well the buildings are maintained, which I’m guessing isn’t great or it wouldn’t be considered a crappy motel in the first place. Not to mention that the words “motel” and “luxury resort” don’t really match up.

But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way here. Idiots.

The TripAdviser reviews about the pools are pretty gross.

134 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 12:46:36pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

For sale, yes, but still operating and accumulating bad reviews.

But it’s got a kick ass bar.

135 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 12:47:15pm

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

Plus who pays for it. Airlines don’t want to - it takes up weight and maintenance time and reduces their profit margins further. So it would be a federal subsidy, further passenger fees, or something like that. And that’s assuming you find a worthwhile defense system that can handle a SAM system designed to shoot down cruise missiles and military attack aircraft.

So it boils down to emotional blathering in the heat of the moment.

I can see the asterisk on tickets now “Price subject to future change if airplane needs to deploy anti-missile defenses”

136 Testy Toad T  Jul 18, 2014 12:47:16pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Point defense lasers. Who cares how expensive or what collateral damage they could do, just imagine a 787 with frickin’ lasers on it!

THIS IS ACTUALLY A THING! Unfortunately, all they do is dazzle the sensors of heat-seeking missiles.

Defending against something like SA-11/SA-17 will be ten million dollars per airframe, please and thank you, and no guarantees it’ll always get you home.

137 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 12:47:20pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Point defense lasers. Who cares how expensive or what collateral damage they could do, just imagine a 787 with frickin’ lasers on it!

Screw defensive measures—turn them into AC gunships.

en.wikipedia.org

138 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 12:48:01pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

But it’s got a kick ass bar.

Let’s go!

139 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 12:49:13pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Screw defensive measures—turn them into AC gunships.

en.wikipedia.org

And another asterisk “Warning: Certain seats may be in the line of ejected shell casings and may result in burns.”

140 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 12:49:23pm

it’s is always spelled it’s to me. I just don’t care anymore.

141 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 12:49:42pm

To be a ‘resort hotel’ doesn’t there need to be a resort somewhere near there? The hotel is right next to the freeway, with a bank on one side, and a Holiday Inn Express on the other. Is that the resort?

142 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:05pm

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Oh wait, thought you were linking to an article about the spectre.

143 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:19pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

To be a ‘resort hotel’ doesn’t there need to be a resort somewhere near there? The hotel is right next to the freeway, with a bank on one side, and a Holiday Inn Express on the other. Is that the resort?

Last Resort Hotel.

144 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:34pm

re: #136 Testy Toad T

THIS IS ACTUALLY A THING! Unfortunately, all they do is dazzle the sensors of heat-seeking missiles.

Defending against something like SA-11/SA-17 will be ten million dollars per airframe, please and thank you, and no guarantees it’ll always get you home.

Or we could go ahead with sub-orbital hypersonic spaceplanes… Of course, considering that the US Navy shot down a satellite with a modified SM-3 Standard missile, that might not help for too much longer, either.

145 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:34pm

It’s Russia Today all over, it’s flirting with that border of overtly

i have a solution:

just like fox news has a prominently displayed slogan, “We Lie, You Swallow It” (that is fox news’ slogan, isn’t it??), RT, should have its own slogan:

“Russia Today: Vladimir Putin’s Personal Propaganda Channel For The English Speaking World”

problem solved

146 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:47pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

To be a ‘resort hotel’ doesn’t there need to be a resort somewhere near there? The hotel is right next to the freeway, with a bank on one side, and a Holiday Inn Express on the other. Is that the resort?

I’m not really a resort but I am next to a Holiday Inn Express?

147 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:49pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

it’s is always spelled it’s to me. I just don’t care anymore.

And I’m going to use the word ‘that’ as often as I can until I get that out of my system.

148 EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2014 12:50:51pm

re: #136 Testy Toad T

THIS IS ACTUALLY A THING! Unfortunately, all they do is dazzle the sensors of heat-seeking missiles.

Defending against something like SA-11/SA-17 will be ten million dollars per airframe, please and thank you, and no guarantees it’ll always get you home.

The old Airborne Laser program (ABL) was a hoot en.wikipedia.org. That was a beast intended to take out ballistic missiles in their boost phase just after launch.

A single chemical laser + control systems etc. would occupy an entire 747-size aircraft.

149 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 12:51:13pm

re: #142 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh wait, thought you were linking to an article about the spectre.

Nope, Boeing AC-777.

150 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 12:51:16pm

re: #136 Testy Toad T

$43 billion over 20 years. Likely much more than that.

And it wouldn’t address the kind of system that was used to take down the Malaysian jet. Only MANPADs.

151 Gus  Jul 18, 2014 12:51:24pm

re: #141 wrenchwench

To be a ‘resort hotel’ doesn’t there need to be a resort somewhere near there? The hotel is right next to the freeway, with a bank on one side, and a Holiday Inn Express on the other. Is that the resort?

Resort for the Honey Boo Boo audience.

152 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:51:37pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

it’s is always spelled it’s to me. I just don’t care anymore.

153 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 12:53:22pm

INTERCEPTION!

They actually deleted the tweet. Cool, I feel like I accomplished something today.

154 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 18, 2014 12:53:50pm

re: #118 lawhawk

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OFFS.

The airlines balk on upgrading their plane navigation systems so that they can do NEXTGEN, which would save everyone time and money in the long run for direct routing, but now we’re supposed to believe that the threat from flying through war zones (which doesn’t describe the US btw) is so bad that we need to install anti-missile tech on all civilian airlines.

Israel installed countermeasures on its flights, but that’s because those planes are the official airlines of a country whose citizens, property, and territory is under constant threat and attacks occur all too frequently. It’s not an insubstantial cost either.

In fact, Israel appears to have installed a system that got the FAA concerned because of a fire risk (flare system against infrared (heat) signature sensors). Another system is called C-Music.

Note too that the system that the Israelis have installed is largely to defend against MANPADs, not the system that appears to have brought down the Malaysian jet.

Quite true. The El Al systems are primarily detector/jammers designed to counter simple infra-red homing missiles, primarily manpads but including some larger types like the Chapparal or SA-13. They would have no effect on a radar based system like the Buk/SA-11. Nobody is going to equip a civilian aircraft with radar countermeasures systems, even ignoring the exorbitant cost and security risk.
It is disturbing to see that a member of Congress is so ignorant about basic facts.

155 TedStriker  Jul 18, 2014 12:53:57pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Point defense lasers. Who cares how expensive or what collateral damage they could do, just imagine a 787 with frickin’ lasers on it!

RWNJs just loves them some collateral damage…just look no further than the “luxury resort for illegals” business.

156 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 12:54:03pm

news of the day:

Humans Continue To Be Assholes, Kill Each Other Unmercifully

nothing new under the sun, try another planet

157 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 12:54:47pm

re: #156 dog philosopher

news of the day:

Humans Continue To Be Assholes, Kill Each Other Unmercifully

nothing new under the sun, try another planet

Away team to Enterprise: Beam us up, Mr. Scott. There is no intelligent life down here.

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 12:56:12pm
159 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 12:56:24pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

it have to be admitted that teh issue am confusing

160 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 1:01:14pm

Wonkette’s comment piranhas are still at it. The possible permutations of ‘bag-of-dicks’ may be exhausted.

161 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 1:02:51pm
These sudden attacks of conscience look more like belated concern for their own reputations.

Very true. Better late than never.

I was trying to find any commentary from Pernicious G or His Light of Anti-Secrecy The Holy Snowden of ARSTechnica, but alas, no word yet.

162 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 1:04:58pm
163 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 1:05:30pm
164 b_sharp  Jul 18, 2014 1:05:40pm

re: #159 dog philosopher

it have to be admitted that teh issue am confusing

It’s the same as whose who’s

165 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 1:06:58pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Dudebrony.

166 Ryan King  Jul 18, 2014 1:09:34pm

I wonder how much time Snowden spends online.

Probably RT’s technical advisor if he doesn’t put on a sock and troll RT’s forums.

167 jamesfirecat  Jul 18, 2014 1:09:37pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Gah MLP that is not FiM, purge it, purge it with fire!

168 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 1:09:50pm
169 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 1:10:15pm

re: #111 Kragar

It isn’t defamation if it’s true.

170 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 1:10:19pm

Apropos of absolutely nothing…

My favorite YouTube video of late - guitarist plays along with sobbing Japanese politician. Absolutely Zappa-esque.

It leaves me wondering what gave that guitarist the idea to even do this in the first place.

Youtube Video

171 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 1:11:34pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

And a very nice hat tip to him right at the end!

This longtime fan of his knows that Doktor Zoom is nothing if not a gentleman.

172 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 1:12:25pm
173 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 1:13:32pm

well, that certainly escalated…

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 1:15:36pm
175 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 1:15:37pm

re: #131 thedopefishlives

Point defense lasers. Who cares how expensive or what collateral damage they could do, just imagine a 787 with frickin’ lasers on it!

Wingnuts want this:

Wingnut 9/11 fantasy

176 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 1:19:53pm
177 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 1:20:20pm

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

Because firing a bunch of guns in a pressurized tube 39,000 feet in the air makes sense.

178 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:20:40pm

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts want this:

Wingnut 9/11 fantasy

The other stupid thing about that fantasy is that it’s not exactly easy to pull out a gun on an airplane not to mention that firing a gun on a plane isn’t exactly smart but hey wingnuts need them a good gun fantasy where guns can prevent anything from the Holocaust to 9/11.

179 Kragar  Jul 18, 2014 1:20:52pm

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts want this:

Wingnut 9/11 fantasy

Because if guns were allowed on planes, the terrorists would still have only brought in box cutters, right?

180 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 1:21:19pm

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah, because what you really, REALLY want on a plane is bullets flying around.

Man, if stupid was measured in ounces and worth money, we’d have lots more millionaires than we do now.

181 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:21:38pm

re: #179 Kragar

Because if guns were allowed on planes, the terrorists would still have only brought in box cutters, right?

Seriously. This is just a stupid fantasy from the same people who think that arming teachers is going to end school shootings.

182 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 1:21:48pm

re: #172 Kragar

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OBAMA OBVIOUSLY WAS DISPOSING OF THE ADMIN PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING THE ILLEAGLE ALIEN RESORT!1!!

183 Khal Wimpo  Jul 18, 2014 1:21:50pm

There’s a great piece over on Global Voices listing the various Russian explanations/dismissals of responsibility for the destruction of MH17.

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/18/russia-mh17-ukraine-crash/

Reads like they’ve been studying the wingnut playbook - deny, obfuscate, attempt to draw false equivalency when confronted with the evidence of wrongdoing.

Number 1 on the list:

“In that case, we didn’t do it.
The self-proclaimed Prime Minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Aleksandr Boroday, was curiously unsure about rebel involvement in the incident:

К сожалению, цитата дня pic.twitter.com

— reeD (@reedmagofficial) July 17, 2014
Unfortunately, this is the quote of the day. [Caption reads, “If it is really a commercial airliner, then it wasn’t us,” Alexandr Boroday.]”

…but if it was another Ukrainian military plane, than it WAS us and is just further evidence of the imminent victory of our glorious cause.

184 sagehen  Jul 18, 2014 1:22:10pm

re: #93 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s from a demonstration back in March against Israeli conscription.

They were in the wrong then, too.

The whole reason Israel gave those exemptions to talmudic scholars is because at the time there were so very few of them left in the world, their field of study needed repopulation. 65 years later, not a problem. (plus… 95% of them really aren’t very good at it.)

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 1:22:29pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

The other stupid thing about that fantasy is that it’s not exactly easy to pull out a gun on an airplane not to mention that firing a gun on a plane isn’t exactly smart but hey wingnuts need them a good gun fantasy where guns can prevent anything from the Holocaust to 9/11.

it’s hell just getting out of your seat and walking down the aisle to get to the tiny restroom, and once THERE the difficulties really start.

186 Teukka  Jul 18, 2014 1:22:47pm

re: #177 Lidane

Because firing a bunch of guns in a pressurized tube 39,000 feet in the air makes sense.

<sarc>So tell me again how you would deal with the rapid decompression which would result from you puncturing the fuselage? More than once?</sarc>

187 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:23:35pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s hell just getting out of your seat and walking down the aisle to get to the tiny restroom, and once THERE the difficulties really start.

Agh yeah I know what you mean. Just got back from an intercontinental flight on Wednesday night. I was lucky though to have the window seat.

188 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 1:24:18pm

re: #186 Teukka

<sarc>So tell me again how you would deal with the rapid decompression which would result from you puncturing the fuselage? More than once?</sarc>

Shoot another passenger and stick their corpse in place to block the hole?
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189 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:25:02pm

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

Shoot another passenger and stick their corpse in place to block the hole?
////

Brilliant! Guinness.

190 EmmaAnne  Jul 18, 2014 1:28:36pm

I got a much needed laugh this afternoon from this:

Youtube Video

SCROTUS!

191 Gus  Jul 18, 2014 1:30:52pm

Here comes the afternoon Twitter crazy.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 1:37:09pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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The comment responses on Melissa’s tweet are wonderful!

193 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:37:27pm

re: #177 Lidane

Because firing a bunch of guns in a pressurized tube 39,000 feet in the air makes sense.

But it’s better if WE bring down the plane than these furrinurs!

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 1:38:48pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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My small effort:

195 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 1:41:45pm

re: #177 Lidane

Because firing a bunch of guns in a pressurized tube 39,000 feet in the air makes sense.

i wonder what would happen if they actually openly pressured the FAA to allow handguns to be brought on planes

196 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:41:51pm

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

Shoot another passenger and stick their corpse in place to block the hole?
////

That sucking sound wasn’t the wingnut brain evaporating, it was the body of the corpse as it began its descent back to Earth…followed be seats 13A, B, C, etc.

197 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:42:59pm

re: #195 dog philosopher

i wonder what would happen if they actually openly pressured the FAA to allow handguns to be brought on planes

The airline industry would collapse. Few would fly.

198 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:45:34pm

re: #197 Joanne

The airline industry would collapse. Few would fly.

I know, I wouldn’t fly if people were allowed to bring guns on planes. Same thing with bars and guns. Sorry gun nuts, some times you should just leave your gun at home.

199 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:46:36pm

I’m watching a teevee show called The Science of Stupid. Best. Show. Ever.

They take crazy internet videos and explain the scientific theories behind these epic wipeouts.

How did I never hear of this show before??

200 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 1:47:51pm

President Barack Obama plans to sign on Monday a long-awaited executive order prohibiting discrimination against LGBT people by federal contractors, and it will not include the broad religious exemption sought by religious leaders.

The Huffington Post reported on Friday that Obama’s order will add sexual orientation and gender identity to an existing non-discrimination order that covers race, sex and religion. A White House official confirmed the report to TPM. It will not include any general religious exemption for religious employers.

The order does, however, maintain an executive order by President George W. Bush that allows religious employers to prioritize hiring members of their religion, according to the official.

oh, nice

//

talkingpointsmemo.com

201 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:48:30pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

I know, I wouldn’t fly if people were allowed to bring guns on planes. Same thing with bars and guns. Sorry gun nuts, some times you should just leave your gun at home.

FREE MARKETS! Until they collapse the industry out of sheer stupidity, then it’s our fault for not wanting to participate in accidents (more than) waiting to happen.

202 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 1:48:53pm

re: #195 dog philosopher

i wonder what would happen if they actually openly pressured the FAA to allow handguns to be brought on planes

After they stopped laughing, picked themselves up off the floor and managed to catch their collective breath the response would look a lot like Charles responding to Dim Liar Jim.

No.

203 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 1:50:03pm

re: #195 dog philosopher

i wonder what would happen if they actually openly pressured the FAA to allow handguns to be brought on planes

That shit would change very, very quickly the first time some yahoo shoots someone for snoring or because their baby won’t stop crying.

204 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:51:37pm

re: #202 Rightwingconspirator

After they stopped laughing, picked themselves up off the floor and managed to catch their collective breath the response would look a lot like Charles responding to Dim Liar Jim.

No.

Seriously, if the FAA said yes ( which would never happen) the airlines would initiate rules against it. No way would any airline take that liability.

Checked luggage only, never be allowed in the cabin.

205 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 1:51:45pm

re: #196 Joanne

That sucking sound wasn’t the wingnut brain evaporating, it was the body of the corpse as it began its descent back to Earth…followed be seats 13A, B, C, etc.

Not so much. Well kinda but not like the movies.
Explosive Decompression MiniMyth
discovery.com

206 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 1:52:36pm

Companies that embed sound on their websites should have their web developers put in stocks so people can throw rotten fruit at them.

Boo. Hiss. I don’t want to hear your company website. Ever.

207 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 18, 2014 1:54:55pm

re: #203 Lidane

That shit would change very, very quickly the first time some yahoo shoots someone for snoring or because their baby won’t stop crying.

Or texting during the safety lecture.

208 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 1:55:05pm
209 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 1:55:43pm

For fairness, the phlawless physicists at Mythbusters did their best to create a catastrophic decompression. Shots through the aircraft skin did very little more than make a whistle. IIRC, a couple rounds into a window blew it out, but even then the curved frame shape prevented a rupture. That produced rapid but survivable decompression.

This is not an experiment I would want to witness IRL at 35,000 AGL. (They’ve been wrong before.)

210 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 1:55:49pm

re: #204 Joanne

Air marshal pistol training is very impressive. They carry .40 semi auto pistols. And they are trained to use them in flight if necessary. I got to review some of that, scary stuff, just not the way one might think.

211 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:56:33pm

re: #205 Rightwingconspirator

I always had a massive crush on Jaime. Did you ever read his CV? It’s amazingly impressive. I googled him years ago (no, I’m not an obsessed stalker, ok, maybe. :-)

212 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:57:36pm

re: #200 dog philosopher

President Barack Obama plans to sign on Monday a long-awaited executive order prohibiting discrimination against LGBT people by federal contractors, and it will not include the broad religious exemption sought by religious leaders.

The Huffington Post reported on Friday that Obama’s order will add sexual orientation and gender identity to an existing non-discrimination order that covers race, sex and religion. A White House official confirmed the report to TPM. It will not include any general religious exemption for religious employers.

The order does, however, maintain an executive order by President George W. Bush that allows religious employers to prioritize hiring members of their religion, according to the official.

oh, nice

//

talkingpointsmemo.com

Good but at the same time disappointing. But progress is a journey not an event.

213 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 1:58:34pm

re: #203 Lidane

That shit would change very, very quickly the first time some yahoo shoots someone for snoring or because their baby won’t stop crying.

Seriously, we have shootings over stupid and mundane shit on land. Like that’d change in the air?

214 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 1:59:08pm

re: #211 Joanne

I always had a massive crush on Jaime. Did you ever read his CV? It’s amazingly impressive. I googled him years ago (no, I’m not an obsessed stalker, ok, maybe. :-)

Don’t feel bad, I’m sure a bunch of guys first thoughts about Mythbusters was an image of Kari Byron.

215 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 1:59:30pm

re: #210 Rightwingconspirator

Air marshal pistol training is very impressive. They carry .40 semi auto pistols. And they are trained to use them in flight if necessary. I got to review some of that, scary stuff, just not the way one might think.

TBH, I’m not comfortable with a highly trained Air Marshall’s carrying on flights… Joe Sixpack, not at all.

216 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 1:59:39pm

ZOMG TYRANNY! INPEACH! IMPERIAL PREZNIT!

Obama’s LGBT Hiring Executive Order Will Not Include Religious Exemption

217 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 1:59:39pm

re: #164 b_sharp

It’s the same as whose who’s

heard that horton heard one

218 HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2014 2:00:44pm

re: #216 Lidane

ZOMG TYRANNY! INPEACH! IMPERIAL PREZNIT!

Obama’s LGBT Hiring Executive Order Will Not Include Religious Exemption

THIS IS JUST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST!

219 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 2:00:49pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Seriously, we have shootings over stupid and mundane shit on land. Like that’d change in the air?

Should be OK as long as they don’t show a movie or try to teach spelling.

220 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:01:49pm

re: #214 Timothy Watson

There’s a definite appeal in looks, wit and intelligence. That’s for sure.

221 Romantic Heretic  Jul 18, 2014 2:02:09pm

re: #156 dog philosopher

news of the day:

Humans Continue To Be Assholes, Kill Each Other Unmercifully

nothing new under the sun, try another planet

Which explains this.

222 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 2:02:14pm

If this is true, it seems Igor Girkhin (aka Igor Strelkov) has been taking some propaganda lessons from Alex Jones as of late:


Kremlin-backed insurgents now claim Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying corpses

The statements of Girkin posted on his Vkontakte page on July 18 appeared to be a lot more confusing.

According to Girkin, the plane’s passengers were already dead when the plane went down.

“I just talked to two people who were gathering corpses, both from Shakhtarsk (the city where the plane crashed) so they came to the spot only 30 minutes after the tragedy. I am writing from their words. They said many corpses were totally bloodless and looked like blood had clotted long before the catastrophe,” the leader of Russian backed insurgents wrote.

kyivpost.com

223 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 2:02:50pm

re: #220 Joanne

There’s a definite appeal in looks, wit and intelligence. That’s for sure.

Nah. We just like her because she loves to blow shit up.

224 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 2:03:42pm

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

If this is true, it seems Igor Girkhin (aka Igor Strelkov) has been taking some propaganda lessons from Alex Jones as of late:


Kremlin-backed insurgents now claim Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying corpses

kyivpost.com

Have they let the investigators in yet?

225 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 2:04:10pm

re: #224 Stanley Sea

Have they let the investigators in yet?

Good question. I haven’t seen anything to indicate that they have thus far.

226 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 2:04:39pm

re: #30 jaunte

Plus miniature giraffes.

When I win the PowerBall, I am SO getting some miniature giraffes. (and a couple of tiny little elephants too).

RBS

227 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:05:15pm

re: #224 Stanley Sea

Have they let the investigators in yet?

After being shot at, I’m sure the investigators said Later Gators.

228 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:05:52pm

re: #226 RealityBasedSteve

When I win the PowerBall, I am SO getting some miniature giraffes. (and a couple of tiny little elephants too).

RBS

What about House Hippos? Can’t not include them. ;-)

229 bubba zanetti  Jul 18, 2014 2:06:12pm

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

If this is true, it seems Igor Girkhin (aka Igor Strelkov) has been taking some propaganda lessons from Alex Jones as of late:


Kremlin-backed insurgents now claim Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying corpses

Sorry dude, but we all saw that episode of Sherlock already.

230 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 2:08:12pm

re: #166 Ryan King

I wonder how much time Snowden spends online.

Probably RT’s technical advisor if he doesn’t put on a sock and troll RT’s forums.

I don’t think he’s allowed to go online, he would have been tracked already. He ain’t smart enough to leave no trace, just look at all the crap he posted before he ran.

231 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 2:09:38pm

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

If this is true, it seems Igor Girkhin (aka Igor Strelkov) has been taking some propaganda lessons from Alex Jones as of late:


Kremlin-backed insurgents now claim Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying corpses

kyivpost.com

I’ve heard of autopilot, but zombie pilot is a new one on me.

232 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 2:10:03pm

re: #195 dog philosopher

i wonder what would happen if they actually openly pressured the FAA to allow handguns to be brought on planes

Where is that open space on the aircraft where they can all make a circular firing squad?

233 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 2:10:32pm

re: #229 bubba zanetti

Sorry dude, but we all saw that episode of Sherlock already.

I’m ALMOST tempted to go to ‘BeforeItsNews’ and read the postings, but that place makes me feel like I have to take a shower in carbolic acid right afterwards. (and then maybe flip over a desk and burn it)

RBS

234 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 2:13:58pm

OT: I just got around to watching the 24 finale a couple days ago, anyone hear anything about renewal for another season? That finale was depressing as hell. :(

235 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:16:37pm
236 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 2:17:52pm

re: #119 A Mom Anon

So those pictures of the place that the morons are posting are old then? If so, the first things to go to shit would be the pool and the spa areas. My husband does this stuff as part of his job, all it takes is a few days of not attending to a pool or spa properly and things go bad and become unsafe quickly. That doesn’t even take into account how well the buildings are maintained, which I’m guessing isn’t great or it wouldn’t be considered a crappy motel in the first place. Not to mention that the words “motel” and “luxury resort” don’t really match up.

But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way here. Idiots.

Downstairs somebody posted the break down on the property, at the 4 million listed price the land was worth significantly more than the buildings. It strikes me as 4 million for that much building and facilities means that it must need some significant repairs and updating.

RBS

237 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 2:18:17pm
238 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 2:18:41pm

So Microsoft’s letter to the 18,000 employees they’re laying off takes 14 paragraphs to get to the point and tell people they’re going to be out of a job.

What the fuck? Don’t they have a corporate communications department? The actual email to people letting them know that layoffs are coming should be short and apologetic. Throw in a sentence that a longer statement explaining the layoffs will be posted on the website or whatever, but no one wants to wade through 14 paragraphs of gobbledygook to find out they might be out of a job.

239 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 2:19:20pm

240 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 2:20:38pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

So snarl!
Very baby.
Wow.

241 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:20:58pm
242 TedStriker  Jul 18, 2014 2:21:18pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

So snarl!
Very baby.
Wow.

Indeed.

243 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 2:22:38pm

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

re: #227 Joanne

After being shot at, I’m sure the investigators said Later Gators.

They are looting the freaking crash site!

244 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 2:22:57pm

re: #238 Lidane

So Microsoft’s letter to the 18,000 employees they’re laying off takes 14 paragraphs to get to the point and tell people they’re going to be out of a job.

What the fuck? Don’t they have a corporate communications department? The actual email to people letting them know that layoffs are coming should be short and apologetic. Throw in a sentence that a longer statement explaining the layoffs will be posted on the website or whatever, but no one wants to wade through 14 paragraphs of gobbledygook to find out they might be out of a job.

It could have been worse….

245 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 2:25:15pm

re: #215 Joanne

Oh right I agree completely. There is just a little reality check on a gunshot in a plane. They got pistols with real bullets, not tasers or rubber bullet guns. So if a marshal draws on a bad guy on a plane I’m on I’m way more afraid of the bad guy causing a crash than a bullet that exits the roof.

246 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 2:26:40pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

For fairness, the phlawless physicists at Mythbusters did their best to create a catastrophic decompression. Shots through the aircraft skin did very little more than make a whistle. IIRC, a couple rounds into a window blew it out, but even then the curved frame shape prevented a rupture. That produced rapid but survivable decompression.

This is not an experiment I would want to witness IRL at 35,000 AGL. (They’ve been wrong before.)

The most obvious thing missing from the Mythbusters experiment was harmonic effects and aerodynamic forces. Decompression of a static airframe on the ground can’t account for the effects of 500+ mph outside air speed whistling by the puncture.

You get a very low energy but totally annoying version of the problem in your left ear when driving a car on the highway and your passenger cracks their window. It’s like living inside a bass flute. Now scale up the scale of the problem by a few hundred passengers who suddenly need oxygen in a hurry and find their inner ears shot to shit from both the decompression and the following resonance completely fucking up their equilibrium. Even if the plane doesn’t come apart it’s one of the last place anybody wants to be.

247 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 2:26:49pm

The wingnut who made that asstarded 9/11 cartoon has a whole shitpile of Derp here:
scottbieser.com

The website appears not to have been updated in over 10 years.

248 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:27:44pm
249 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 2:27:45pm

Derp

250 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 2:28:50pm

re: #215 Joanne

TBH, I’m not comfortable with a highly trained Air Marshall’s carrying on flights… Joe Sixpack, not at all.

As a very frequent flier, I’m MORE than comfortable with a highly trained Air Marshal carrying on flight just in case Joe Sixpack does get something past security

251 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 2:28:52pm

re: #238 Lidane

So Microsoft’s letter to the 18,000 employees they’re laying off takes 14 paragraphs to get to the point and tell people they’re going to be out of a job.

What the fuck? Don’t they have a corporate communications department? The actual email to people letting them know that layoffs are coming should be short and apologetic. Throw in a sentence that a longer statement explaining the layoffs will be posted on the website or whatever, but no one wants to wade through 14 paragraphs of gobbledygook to find out they might be out of a job.

Are corporate HR assholes still terrorizing their workforces with Who Moved My Cheese readings? That shit was my favorite.

252 b_sharp  Jul 18, 2014 2:31:46pm

I wonder if the layoff at M$ has anything to do with the crapfest called Windows 8 and their bullshit anti-pirating steps taken with Office?

253 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 2:32:12pm

More or less a post-and-run, I will be online later this evening. Anything new aside from the MS layoffs?

254 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 2:32:56pm

re: #252 b_sharp

I wonder if the layoff at M$ has anything to do with the crapfest called Windows 8 and their bullshit anti-pirating steps taken with Office?

Nope. It has to do with their delusion that people want a Windows Phone.

EDIT: The whole thing is here.

Worst. Email. EVAR.

255 OhNoZombies!  Jul 18, 2014 2:33:47pm

re: #79 jaunte

From today’s Townhall propaganda email:
[Embedded image]

How dare the president eat a “juicy burger” at times like these. He should fast, or have dry crackers.

They have been trying their damnedest to find the Obama equivalent to GW reading My Friend Goat, or whatever, after he was told about the towers. That one must’ve really hit a nerve.
Same with the vacation stuff.
My guess is, they don’t even know why they’re complaining.

256 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:34:57pm
257 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 2:35:14pm

re: #251 goddamnedfrank

Workers! Don’t think of yourselves as anonymous cogs. Think of yourselves as fucking rats in a maze!

The sheer empathic disconnect intrinsic in that book and the mechanical HR drones who deploy it is goddamned astounding.

258 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 2:36:46pm

re: #79 jaunte

From today’s Townhall propaganda email:
[Embedded image]

How dare the president eat a “juicy burger” at times like these. He should fast, or have dry crackers.

If it were Reagan, he would have asked Putin… “Mind If I have a bite of your burger”, then ate the whole thing, and finished off his soda too. That’s a President////
Oh wait, that’s Samuel L. Jackson …. my bad.

RBS

259 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 2:37:19pm

re: #254 Lidane

Nope. It has to do with their delusion that people want a Windows Phone.

It looked to me like they’re cutting their X-Bix division…something people actually do want.

And FFS, give us a functioning version of Windows (which I’m mandated to use) that doesn’t require a fucking book to figure out how to operate.

260 sagehen  Jul 18, 2014 2:37:50pm

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

If this is true, it seems Igor Girkhin (aka Igor Strelkov) has been taking some propaganda lessons from Alex Jones as of late:


Kremlin-backed insurgents now claim Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying corpses

kyivpost.com

They stole that story from Sherlock episode “A Scandal in Belgravia”.

261 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 2:40:32pm

re: #254 Lidane

Nope. It has to do with their delusion that people want a Windows Phone.

Microsoft has made a number of big blunders since the release of Windows 7. Everybody in the industry (well, except for the MS fanboys) saw this coming.

262 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 2:41:20pm

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

Kremlin-backed insurgents now claim Malaysia Airlines plane was carrying corpses

and snakes

263 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 2:41:45pm

re: #251 goddamnedfrank

Are corporate HR assholes still terrorizing their workforces with Who Moved My Cheese readings? That shit was my favorite.

We had a GM who was into that whole thing. He also had horrible inter-personal skills. He started off our monthly “all employees” meeting (there are only 40 or so of us” like this:

You all are the greatest group I’ve ever worked with. You guys set the standards the other centers try to meet. You guys are GREAT.

We all felt good for about 3 seconds, before he followed it up with:
And don’t forget, anyone of you could be replaced at any time.

Lets just say that sort of mixed message went over really well. We got the last laugh, about a year later, he and the sales manager did the ‘walk of shame’ with the owner after he fired them and escorted them from the building for falsifying sales invoices to meet goal.

RBS

264 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 2:41:56pm

re: #253 thedopefishlives

More or less a post-and-run, I will be online later this evening. Anything new aside from the MS layoffs?

My ex-stepbrother finally friended his sister on Facebook.

/so heartwarming!

265 sagehen  Jul 18, 2014 2:42:38pm

re: #234 Timothy Watson

OT: I just got around to watching the 24 finale a couple days ago, anyone hear anything about renewal for another season? That finale was depressing as hell. :(

There’s no current plans for more… but it wouldn’t surprise me if a couple years from now it happens.

(In the meantime, I’m looking for Chloe/Belchek post-canon fanfic. Let me know if you find any.)

266 Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2014 2:44:15pm

re: #258 RealityBasedSteve

If it were Reagan, he would have asked Putin… “Mind If I have a bite of your burger”, then ate the whole thing, and finished off his soda too. That’s a President////
Oh wait, that’s Samuel L. Jackson …. my bad.

RBS

Though I admit, that would be badass as all get out.

“Check out the big brain on Brad Vlad!”

Youtube Video

267 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 2:44:46pm

re: #252 b_sharp

I wonder if the layoff at M$ has anything to do with the crapfest called Windows 8 and their bullshit anti-pirating steps taken with Office?

my take is this:

original owners out of the picture, professional managers running the show

easy win: higher profit margins though firing people

268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 18, 2014 2:46:13pm

Putin has screwed up and he must know it.

You can play political ping pong with concepts like democracy and human rights, all you want, but it is clear that he has just fucked with a multi-billion dollar industry and the airlines are livid at him.

I hope they put all the pressure they can on him

269 bubba zanetti  Jul 18, 2014 2:47:26pm

re: #260 sagehen

They stole that story from Sherlock episode “A Scandal in Belgravia”.

jinx you owe me a coke

270 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 2:53:31pm

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Putin has screwed up and he must know it.

You can play political ping pong with concepts like democracy and human rights, all you want, but it is clear that he has just fucked with a multi-billion dollar industry and the airlines are livid at him.

I hope they put all the pressure they can on him

Also, his statement blaming Ukraine because it happened over their territory is so much transparent DARVO. It’s so obviously the statement of an abusive bully.

271 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 2:55:30pm

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Putin has screwed up and he must know it.

100% agree,,,, BUT

he has just fucked with a multi-billion dollar industry and the airlines are livid at him.
I hope they put all the pressure they can on him

Not sure what kind of pressure the airline industry can put on “him”. People will still need/ want to fly in and out of every major Russian city. The airlines aren’t going to suspend their flights. They will (or at the very least,, should) do what the FAA suggested to American carriers. That they avoid flying over/ near the areas of conflict.

272 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 2:59:59pm
Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.), who spent the weekend visiting Honduras and Guatemala with six other members of Congress, reaffirmed his belief on Wednesday that the ongoing humanitarian crisis along the southern border is to send migrants home—even though he found his host city too dangerous to go outside.

[…]

So to recap: Tegucigalpa is too dangerous for grown members of Congress to leave their downtown hotel rooms, but a perfectly fine place to send an eight-year-old kid. (According to a press release, the congressional delegation did leave their hotel to visit an outreach center funded by the US government. They also met with the president and first lady of Honduras.) Meanwhile, not content with the results of Pearce’s investigation, a rival Congressional delegation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), is en route to Central America now. We’ll see if they find it safe enough to walk around.

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273 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 3:09:16pm
Until now, the Netherlands was among the European countries that were least inclined to challenge Russia. But in the wake of the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 disaster, which claimed 192 Dutch lives when felled by a surface-to-air missile on Thursday, the Dutch government now faces pressure to toughen its position toward Moscow. Pro-Russia separatists are suspected of using a missile possibly supplied by Russia to down the flight. To do so, however, the Netherlands must reverse a policy that favored its economic interests over all other considerations.

…

Like many other European countries, the Netherlands depends on Russian oil and gas imports for much of its energy needs, but the Dutch case is particularly acute: No other European country had as high a trade deficit with Russia in 2012, and the Netherlands has also positioned itself as a tax shelter for Russia’s billionaires.

But after an attack that claimed a higher proportion of its citizens than the United States lost on Sept. 11 2001, can the Netherlands afford to maintain the status quo in respect to Russia?

…

Shifting energy politics may also play a role in Amsterdam’s response. The Gate liquefied natural gas terminal, located near Rotterdam, currently operates at just 10 percent of its present capacity. A large increase in maritime natural gas imports would help insulate The Netherlands from a drop in Russian supply. This, as much as satisfying the public thirst for justice, may be the main factor in shaping how Holland reacts to Thursday’s plane crash.

Russia has seriously shit the bed here. They were facing a grim economic outlook before the invasion of Crimea. Now after two rounds of sanctions they’ve gone and seriously pissed off not only a substantial export market and economic shelter, but pretty much the entire remainder of the European sub-continent and the nearly all of Oceania.

The damage from this epic level blunder and Putin’s colossally inept response thus far is like the calving of a gigantic ice sheet. The crack is there and the damage is now totally irreversible, all that’s left is the long, slow, inevitable slide into the sea.

274 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 3:12:20pm

Was it the all-caps from the email, The War TARDIS?

275 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 3:13:16pm

Emotional Deval Patrick explains plan to shelter undocumented children (VIDEO)

276 makeitstop  Jul 18, 2014 3:15:20pm

re: #254 Lidane

Nope. It has to do with their delusion that people want a Windows Phone.

Hey, now. I like my Windows phone.

277 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 3:17:37pm

re: #274 wrenchwench

?

278 Blue Fielder  Jul 18, 2014 3:17:52pm

re: #259 Joanne

It looked to me like they’re cutting their X-Bix division…something people actually do want.

They certainly don’t seem to want it enough. The PS4 is still eating its lunch and the Wii U is sneaking up on its milkshake.

Don’t think the layoffs are directly related to XBone’s trouble, though.

279 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 3:19:21pm

re: #275 wrenchwench

Emotional Deval Patrick explains plan to shelter undocumented children (VIDEO)

in related news, congress today passed extensions to its guaranteed medical care program to cover treatment for emotionally crippled members who advocate sealing children in railroad cars and shipping them back to war zones

280 EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2014 3:20:21pm

re: #235 Joanne

Trump’s hairpiece has evolved to have eyes. Next up is the nasty, sharp pointed teeth. Run away!!

281 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:24:58pm

re: #254 Lidane

Nope. It has to do with their delusion that people want a Windows Phone.

EDIT: The whole thing is here.

Worst. Email. EVAR.

We plan to right-size our manufacturing operations to align to the new strategy and take advantage of integration opportunities. We expect to focus phone production mainly in Hanoi, with some production to continue in Beijing and Dongguan. We plan to shift other Microsoft manufacturing and repair operations to Manaus and Reynosa respectively, and start a phased exit from Komaron, Hungary.

“Right-size”

*THROWS ALL TEH DESKS*

282 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 3:26:08pm

re: #277 The War TARDIS

No. That was me trying to scroll quickly on my phone. I only now realize what was going on.

283 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:26:45pm

YAY GOOGLE!

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2014 3:27:34pm

I am soooo keeping this for future use as needed.
:D

285 Romantic Heretic  Jul 18, 2014 3:27:43pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

Workers! Don’t think of yourselves as anonymous cogs. Think of yourselves as fucking rats in a maze!

The sheer empathic disconnect intrinsic in that book and the mechanical HR drones who deploy it is goddamned astounding.

“Human Resources” has got to be one of the worst fucking terms ever invented. It makes it sound like employees, that is people, are something dug out of the ground, processed into an appropriate form and then used until obsolete and nearly broken.

Which, come to think of it, may explain much corporate behaviour.

286 Blue Fielder  Jul 18, 2014 3:28:28pm

re: #283 Pie-onist Overlord

Their system, their rules. Don’t like the free market, Pammy?

Fucking terrorist.

287 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:29:05pm

Nobody defended that, Steve. Nice straw soldier.

288 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:31:57pm
289 EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2014 3:32:33pm

re: #287 Pie-onist Overlord

To RWNJs, Gosnell was a baby-killer and abortions are killing babies, so (for them) it follows that anyone who supports abortion is a fan of Gosnell.

Normal people point and laugh at this childish mockery of reason.

290 Mike Lamb  Jul 18, 2014 3:33:14pm

re: #287 Pie-onist Overlord

Nobody defended that, Steve. Nice straw soldier.

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Ok…even if that were true, does that change in any way the fact that GOP policies towards women are horrific?

But good Christ…Chappaquidick? Really? That’s his go-to?

291 A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2014 3:33:29pm

re: #288 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s just a freaking pervy creep. Who gives a rat’s royal rump WTF anyone is wearing under their clothes? Except for the perv on Twitter that is…

292 Blue Fielder  Jul 18, 2014 3:34:13pm

re: #290 Mike Lamb

But good Christ…Chappaquidick? Really? That’s his go-to?

GOPs always love to bring that up. They’re truly the nadir of “why y’all bringin’ up old shit?”.

293 Mike Lamb  Jul 18, 2014 3:35:40pm

re: #288 Pie-onist Overlord

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This clown thinks that men’s underwear should be mandated? I bet he’d be first in line for inspections…

294 Mike Lamb  Jul 18, 2014 3:37:07pm

re: #292 Blue Fielder

GOPs always love to bring that up. They’re truly the nadir of “why y’all bringin’ up old shit?”.

It makes sense I s’pose…considering the GOP’s other nugget of breaking news that the Democrats founded the KKK and are the real racists.

295 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 3:37:16pm

re: #288 Pie-onist Overlord

the fabled director of plan 9 from outer space would have been pleased

296 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 3:38:40pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

By the way - Dim Jim has been deleting every comment that supports me or points out how wrong he was. lol

I was banned immediately.

297 Floral Giraffe  Jul 18, 2014 3:38:41pm

re: #30 jaunte

Plus miniature giraffes.

Giggles. Not being strangled!

298 piratedan  Jul 18, 2014 3:41:00pm

re: #296 Aunty Entity Dragon

He’s a small person emotionally.

299 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 3:41:11pm

re: #277 The War TARDIS

?

Downding on the Rocky Lara solicitation.

re: #282 The War TARDIS

No. That was me trying to scroll quickly on my phone. I only now realize what was going on.

OK.

300 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 3:46:54pm

re: #298 piratedan

He’s a small person emotionally.

Rod Dreher banned me as well for continually pointing out his obsession with being a professional victim. I never insulted him or used unseemly language (He vets every single post and his standards are basically what you would be allowed to say in a church) I challenged his assumptions, so he called me a narcisist…and boring(!?)

Serious control freak..

301 TedStriker  Jul 18, 2014 3:48:50pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

By the way - Dim Jim has been deleting every comment that supports me or points out how wrong he was. lol

re: #296 Aunty Entity Dragon

I was banned immediately.

re: #298 piratedan

He’s a small person emotionally.

I’ll wager that, like most overcompensating RWNJs, Dim Jim is “small” in other areas as well:

Youtube Video

(definitely NSFW!)

302 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 3:49:07pm

re: #283 Pie-onist Overlord

YAY GOOGLE!

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Tee hee. Erm, does she actually think anyone can read the sign behind her in her avatar?

303 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:49:20pm
304 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 3:51:25pm

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh myyyyy…

305 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 3:52:52pm

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

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um recipe please? wow. Dragon_Lady Bday Sunday…

306 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:54:51pm

re: #305 Rightwingconspirator

um recipe please? wow. Dragon_Lady Bday Sunday…

Sour Cream Apple Cake

307 sattv4u2  Jul 18, 2014 3:55:51pm

re: #305 Rightwingconspirator

um recipe please? wow. Dragon_Lady Bday Sunday…

How come she keeps getting younger and you,,,well,,,,, have you looked in a mirror of late !?!?

//

308 Timothy Watson  Jul 18, 2014 3:56:20pm

re: #283 Pie-onist Overlord

YAY GOOGLE!

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Who, outside of a teenager, uses the spelling “sux”?

309 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 3:56:42pm

My friend, mom, sister and grandpa are all very supportive of me in regards to the lady in Iran.

Current plan is this:

She has a sister in NJ- I am planning to go to NYC around the second week of August. Meet her sister there while there for a small convention. I want to thank someone. (As an aside, I will want Lawhawks and CL’s help with stuff with this one later).

Then, her sister would come out her with her husband to meet me.

Then I go to Iran in January to meet her family, followed by her coming to the US to meet mine in June or July.

310 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 18, 2014 3:57:10pm
311 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 3:57:40pm

Erick Erick is a lying sack of feces, just like Jim Hoft.

312 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 18, 2014 3:57:49pm

re: #308 Timothy Watson

Who, outside of a teenager, uses the spelling “sux”?

Yeah, this stupid spelling sux.

313 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 3:58:11pm

re: #306 Pie-onist Overlord

Sour Cream Apple Cake

Thanks much kind lady.

314 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 18, 2014 3:58:21pm

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

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You, torturer, you.

315 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 4:00:16pm

re: #308 Timothy Watson

Who, outside of a teenager, uses the spelling “sux”?

Twitter users who can’t fit “sucks” into their 140-char limit.

316 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:02:19pm

re: #300 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rod Dreher banned me as well for continually pointing out his obsession with being a professional victim. I never insulted him or used unseemly language (He vets every single post and his standards are basically what you would be allowed to say in a church) I challenged his assumptions, so he called me a narcisist…and boring(!?)

Serious control freak..

aaaand on that note, Dreher is melting down over Obama being expected to sign an executive order banning discrimination against GLBT people for federal contractors. The order will not contain a clause exempting religious contractors.

of course… This is tranny gay tyranny and it iz time fer Christians to use teh “Benedict Option” and go to our version of Galt’s Gulch!

theamericanconservative.com

Today, the president signaled his intention to refuse. And so Christian and other religious groups that receive federal money to do things like feed the poor will have to decide between Christ and Caesar. The march to progress continues. Traditional religious believers are pushed ever more fully out of the public square. Your president, speaking on behalf of your government, thinks you are too tainted by bigotry to be trusted with government contracts.

I’ve been telling y’all for years now that the advance of gay rights will come at the expense of religious liberty. This is a prime example. Note that the pro-Obama religious leaders weren’t asking Obama not to issue the executive order banning discrimination against gays in federal contracting; they were only asking for tolerance for religious organizations that serve the public good, but cannot for reasons of religious principle obey the new dictate. There will be no toleration. Error has no rights.

I have never seen a more determined example of chilice tightening, martyrdom seeking, self flagellating victimhood.

The guy needs to see a counselor.

317 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 4:02:39pm

re: #308 Timothy Watson

Who, outside of a teenager, uses the spelling “sux”?

Users of Sioux Gateway Airport.

318 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:06:56pm

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

Users of Sioux Gateway Airport.

Youtube Video

319 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 4:07:34pm

re: #308 Timothy Watson

Who, outside of a teenager, uses the spelling “sux”?

I do. I use bak instead if back all the time in IM. Writing something more formal, no, but those are habits for shorthand for me.

320 blueraven  Jul 18, 2014 4:07:34pm

Krauthammer is so upset with Obama’s TONE!!!
He wants to see more passion!! And, of course more (lethal) military aid.

They really hate it that this president does not engage in over the top rhetoric.
“No drama Obama” is not something they can understand, even after 6 years.

I, on the other hand, am so grateful to have a President who is calm and thoughtful in the face of extreme situations like this. Over-reaction is not what we need right now. Nobody wants WWlll.

The thought of John McCain and Sarah Palin leading this country right now is a deeply frightening one. America was really smart in 2008.

321 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 4:08:53pm

re: #320 blueraven

Amen a hundred times.

322 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 4:09:07pm

for students of derpology

We have come a long way regarding gay rights, we now have the right to force someone to bake a cake or take photos at our ceremonies and soon all religions (except Islam of course) will have to do same sex ceremonies. But we will not truly be equal while white men are allowed to reject our advances because they are heterosexual, why should privileged people be allow to hurt my self-esteem?

323 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:09:08pm

Think I’ll watch “The Girl That Played With Fire” tonight. Looks like a light little Rom-Com.

RBS

324 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 4:09:43pm

re: #307 sattv4u2

How come she keeps getting younger and you,,,well,,,,, have you looked in a mirror of late !?!?

//

It’s my wild lifestyle.
///

325 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 4:11:44pm

re: #323 RealityBasedSteve

Think I’ll watch “The Girl That Played With Fire” tonight. Looks like a light little Rom-Com.

RBS

Did the second movie with Roony Mara and Daniel Craig come out, or is this the original with Noomi Rapace?

326 Targetpractice  Jul 18, 2014 4:12:22pm

re: #320 blueraven

Krauthammer is so upset with Obama’s TONE!!!
He wants to see more passion!! And, of course more (lethal) military aid.

They really hate it that this president does not engage in over the top rhetoric.
“No drama Obama” is not something they can understand, even after 6 years.

I, on the other hand, am so grateful to have a President who is calm and thoughtful in the face of extreme situations like this. Over-reaction is not what we need right now. Nobody wants WWlll.

The thought of John McCain and Sarah Palin leading this country right now is a deeply frightening one. America was really smart in 2008.

Wingnuts like Krauthammer continue to see everything in shades of Cold War politics, that the only way to deal with other nations is to rattle the saber at them.

327 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 4:13:43pm

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

WOW. Just wow…

328 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:13:54pm

re: #325 Pie-onist Overlord

Did the second movie with Roony Mara and Daniel Craig come out, or is this the original with Noomi Rapace?

The Original. I like movies with Subtitles, it makes me actually pay attention to it.

RBS

329 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:14:14pm

re: #323 RealityBasedSteve

Think I’ll watch “The Girl That Played With Fire” tonight. Looks like a light little Rom-Com.

RBS

Good movie (The original one in Swedish starring Noomi Rapace).

Not date material in any universe though…

330 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:15:18pm

re: #328 RealityBasedSteve

The Original. I like movies with Subtitles, it makes me actually pay attention to it.

RBS

Rapace is a damned good actress. I want to see what she will be up to in the sequel to Prometheus.

331 bratwurst  Jul 18, 2014 4:15:41pm
332 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 4:15:44pm
333 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 4:15:50pm

re: #325 Pie-onist Overlord

Did the second movie with Roony Mara and Daniel Craig come out, or is this the original with Noomi Rapace?

I don’t think it’s out yet. But if you’ve seen the Rapace films, the US ones are…meh. IMHO.

334 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 18, 2014 4:16:40pm

re: #332 Charles Johnson

LOL

335 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:16:43pm

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

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That looks like it should be on the cover of some cookbook… one of those big coffee table ones.

RBS

336 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:17:16pm

re: #332 Charles Johnson

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You’re a dockside trollop now? How very 1805 Portsmouth…

337 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 4:18:18pm

re: #329 Aunty Entity Dragon

Good movie (The original one in Swedish starring Noomi Rapace).

Not date material in any universe though…

It is for me! I love action flicks and mysteries. GWTDT is both. The 2nd one was ok, but the last one was awesome! And I don’t do RomComs unless it’s purely background noise.

338 lawhawk  Jul 18, 2014 4:19:43pm

Snowden bombshell.

NSA contractors were into porn.

You’ve got young enlisted guys, 18 to 22. They’ve suddenly thrust into a position of extraordinary responsibility, where they now have access to all of your private records. Now, in the course of their daily work, they stumble across something that is completely unrelated to their work in any sort of necessary sense. For example: an intimate nude photo of someone in a sexually compromising situation, but they’re extremely attractive. So what do they do? They turn around in their chair, and they show their coworker. And their coworker says, “Oh, hey, that’s great. Send that to Bill down the way. And then Bill sends it to George, George sends it to Tom, and sooner or later, this person’s whole life has been seen by all of these other people. It’s never reported. Nobody ever knows about it, because the auditing of these systems is incredibly weak.

Yeah, just stumbled across nudies. And then sent across to coworkers.

Again, this is on his say-so. Is this plausible? Yeah, it’s plausible. But server logs would track who is seeing what and when. Email/txts would be logged on the system, etc.

If this happened as frequently as he says, there’d be all kinds of records.

How come there’s none of that in his documents that he took? Where’s his evidence.

339 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 4:21:11pm

re: #332 Charles Johnson

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The egg favorited his own tweet.

340 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:21:32pm

re: #338 lawhawk

Snowden bombshell.

NSA contractors were into porn.

Yeah, just stumbled across nudies. And then sent across to coworkers.

Again, this is on his say-so. Is this plausible? Yeah, it’s plausible. But server logs would track who is seeing what and when. Email/txts would be logged on the system, etc.

If this happened as frequently as he says, there’d be all kinds of records.

How come there’s none of that in his documents that he took? Where’s his evidence.

I’m shocked. People at work were looking at porn.

This just in:

Dogs bite people and bears shit in the woods. More to follow!

341 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 4:22:44pm

lol

342 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:23:48pm

re: #338 lawhawk

Snowden bombshell.

NSA contractors were into porn.

Yeah, just stumbled across nudies. And then sent across to coworkers.

Again, this is on his say-so. Is this plausible? Yeah, it’s plausible. But server logs would track who is seeing what and when. Email/txts would be logged on the system, etc.

If this happened as frequently as he says, there’d be all kinds of records.

How come there’s none of that in his documents that he took? Where’s his evidence.

Our old facilities manager used to work part time for Assurion doing cellphone repairs. He told me that after looking at some of the phones you really wanted to just stick your brain in a vat of rubbing alcohol.

RBS

343 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 4:24:56pm

I must redact my previous comment, “I’ve heard of autopilot, but zombie pilot is a new one on me,” because i just remembered that I once flew on Delta.

344 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 4:29:31pm
345 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:31:03pm

re: #343 De Kolta Chair

I must redact my previous comment, “I’ve heard of autopilot, but zombie pilot is a new one on me,” because i just remembered that I once flew on Delta.

When they have the “Zombie World Cup”, when one of the shuffling creatures scores, does the announcer shout “GHOOOOUUUUUUL”?

Thank, I’ll be here all weekend.

RBS

346 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:33:08pm

re: #344 wrenchwench

I used to work on B777’s. Lovely, fantastic aircraft. Great safety record, very reliable and incredibly advanced.

One Goddamned missile.

347 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 4:34:01pm

re: #344 wrenchwench

I’m reminded of how Manfred von Richthofen had a little silver victory cup made up each time he shot someone down:

After his first confirmed victory, Richthofen contacted a jeweller in Berlin and ordered a silver cup engraved with the date and the type of enemy aircraft.[d] He continued this until he had 60 cups, by which time the dwindling supply of silver in blockaded Germany meant that silver cups like this could no longer be supplied. Richthofen discontinued his orders at this stage, rather than accept cups made in pewter or other base metal

en.wikipedia.org

Just a passing thought…

348 Floral Giraffe  Jul 18, 2014 4:39:57pm

re: #332 Charles Johnson

Giggles. Does he even know what a “trollop” is?

349 b_sharp  Jul 18, 2014 4:42:18pm

re: #254 Lidane

Nope. It has to do with their delusion that people want a Windows Phone.

EDIT: The whole thing is here.

Worst. Email. EVAR.

So, Windows 8

350 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:43:37pm

re: #348 Floral Giraffe

Giggles. Does he even know what a “trollop” is?

Isn’t it a female Troll?

RBS

351 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 4:46:52pm

re: #346 Aunty Entity Dragon

Cheap kills. I fought in that other, other war and I saw very expensive hardware taken out by RPGs that couldn’t have cost more than $200 to manufacture. Big, overly expensive war toys will be our downfall.

352 EPR-radar  Jul 18, 2014 4:46:59pm

re: #345 RealityBasedSteve

When they have the “Zombie World Cup”, when one of the shuffling creatures scores, does the announcer shout “GHOOOOUUUUUUL”?

Thank, I’ll be here all weekend.

RBS

That reminds me of a stinker I just saw elsewhere.

A man successfully robbed the Louvre, but was caught just a few blocks away. His explanation for this planning failure was “I had no Monet to get Degas to make the Van Gogh”.

353 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:47:03pm

Jesus, and I thought I had a bad few weeks…

John Cole at Balloon Juice has been trying to get into a rehab facility for alcohol.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to deal with addiction and get treatment in America? I have gold plated insurance, am comfortably middle class, and I have been going through sheer hell trying to get into a facility. It’s almost like you have to show up with a syringe full of heroin dangling from your arm and a crack pipe in your mouth to get anyone to take you seriously.

A while back, I went to my general practitioner and tried to get into a rehab facility. He was caught off guard and sent me to some place which was basically a level 4 detox facility (this meant nothing to me when I was first told it). Regardless, I had made the plans, packed my bags, gone to go be admitted, and the doctor there told me there was no way in hell he was admitting me because this was a place for court ordered detox of people who were in a far different place than me, criminal, and basically the people drinking MD under a bridge for 30 years or smoking crack rock and holding people up at gas stations. Basically, he told me that under no circumstances was this the place for me. I’d set aside the time for work. Showed up, got rejected.

Spent another couple months trying to get a place that was right, covered by insurance, and amenable to my time schedule. Found a place in Ft. Myers, Florida, and was getting ready to go, but then they flaked out on me and would never send me proof that my insurance would cover it. I’m not jumping into that kind of scam, especially in Rick Scott’s Florida. Not to mention, I sweat in a meat locker, and Ft. Myers in July sounds like my own personal hell.

So then I just said fuck it. I’m just going with the VA, even though I have private insurance. It’s close, veterans (who bitch more than anyone on the planet) consistently rate their care at the VA higher than civilians rate their hospital experiences, plus there would be a comfort level there because I was around folks I understand. Spent a couple days making arrangements with people at the VA in Pitt, they told me what to bring, packed everything up, and went, thinking I was making a big step.

Guess what. In 2003, under our favorite President, for whom I voted twice, they changed the rules of eligibility. Because I am comfortably middle class and have a retirement account, even though I am a veteran with a combat patch, I am not eligible because I have too much money. At this point, I’m just like, you have to be fucking shitting me.

354 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 4:49:09pm

re: #353 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jesus, and I thought I had a bad few weeks…

John Cole at Balloon Juice has been trying to get into a rehab facility for alcohol.

Maybe this would explain why he’s been such a complete fucking asshole to me.

355 jamesfirecat  Jul 18, 2014 4:49:16pm

re: #309 The War TARDIS

My friend, mom, sister and grandpa are all very supportive of me in regards to the lady in Iran.

Current plan is this:

She has a sister in NJ- I am planning to go to NYC around the second week of August. Meet her sister there while there for a small convention. I want to thank someone. (As an aside, I will want Lawhawks and CL’s help with stuff with this one later).

Then, her sister would come out her with her husband to meet me.

Then I go to Iran in January to meet her family, followed by her coming to the US to meet mine in June or July.

Congrats, let me go dig through your history but I know lack of a lady friend has long been something that has made your life feel incomplete and so I wish you good luck and happiness!

356 Floral Giraffe  Jul 18, 2014 4:49:51pm

re: #350 RealityBasedSteve

From Wikidictionary
trollop (plural trollops)

A woman held by others as retaining a vulgar and discourteous disposition.
(derogatory) A strumpet, a whore

357 Archangelus  Jul 18, 2014 4:50:35pm

re: #303 Pie-onist Overlord

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Recipe pretty pretty please!!

Always appropriate for such eye-dazzling food goodness

359 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 4:53:14pm

Well, well.

360 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 4:54:37pm

re: #356 Floral Giraffe

From Wikidictionary
trollop (plural trollops)

A woman held by others as retaining a vulgar and discourteous disposition.
(derogatory) A strumpet, a whore

ah, but there is a place where what I said is, in fact, true. 5 bonus points to whoever gets it.

RBS

361 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 4:55:17pm

re: #332 Charles Johnson

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Pathetic little stalker troll with 4 followers (all stalkers probs) says what?

362 Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2014 4:56:14pm

re: #316 Aunty Entity Dragon

aaaand on that note, Dreher is melting down over Obama being expected to sign an executive order banning discrimination against GLBT people for federal contractors. The order will not contain a clause exempting religious contractors.

of course… This is tranny gay tyranny and it iz time fer Christians to use teh “Benedict Option” and go to our version of Galt’s Gulch!

theamericanconservative.com

I have never seen a more determined example of chilice tightening, martyrdom seeking, self flagellating victimhood.

The guy needs to see a counselor.

The sex life of someone handing out brown bags at the mission pantry isn’t much of an issue, unless the real mission is ‘fuck the poor’.

363 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:56:14pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

Maybe this would explain why he’s been such a complete fucking asshole to me.

He is that way to everybody. I have had some massive fights with him online over GLBT related issues around Obama’s first inauguration and some hideous legal briefs Obama’s people in Justice filed to defend DOMA back in 2009.

Cole can be a serious dick (hell, I haven’t always been a rose myself). I don’t post much at Balloon Juice anymore, in any event, but I thought his experience here was worth relating. My mother-in-law had very serious addiction and mental health issues, and getting her treatment was utterly impossible at times in Georgia.

While having a psychotic delusion she snuck out of the house one night naked in December while we were visiting. Local police picked her up and brought her back, and then proceeded to chew my ass for letting her out. My wife and I begged the officer to arrest her for own protection, since that way she would at least be seen by somebody.

He blew us off and drove away.

364 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 4:57:11pm

I don’t expect to get an answer from @AymanM.

365 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 4:58:00pm

It works better for him to just pretend he never heard about Greenwald’s crazed rant. And now Greenwald’s taking credit for it.

366 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 4:58:59pm

re: #365 Charles Johnson

It works better for him to just pretend he never heard about Greenwald’s crazed rant. And now Greenwald’s taking credit for it.

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Dudebros gotta dudebro.

367 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 4:59:19pm

I always marvel at the incredible egomania and narcissism it takes for someone to call themselves a name like “Truth Teller.”

368 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:01:33pm

re: #346 Aunty Entity Dragon

I used to work on B777’s. Lovely, fantastic aircraft. Great safety record, very reliable and incredibly advanced.

One Goddamned missile.

I saw a couple of them in pieces. On the assembly line. And saw the guys on the floor riding around on the Worksman bikes and trikes I was there to fix.

369 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 5:01:39pm

re: #367 Charles Johnson

I always marvel at the incredible egomania and narcissism it takes for someone to call themselves a name like “Truth Teller.”

It’s like always referring to oneself as “An Award Winning Journalist”. It indicates that deep inside, you know you are anything BUT that you are claiming to be.

RBS

370 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 5:03:14pm

re: #345 RealityBasedSteve

When they have the “Zombie World Cup”, when one of the shuffling creatures scores, does the announcer shout “GHOOOOUUUUUUL”?

Thank, I’ll be here all weekend.

RBS

What does Zombie Mitt crave the most?

Baaaaaaaiiiiiiinnnnssss

Thank you, thank you, and for god’s sake DON’T try the veal!!!!

371 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:03:36pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

Maybe this would explain why he’s been such a complete fucking asshole to me.

Most definitely. I would say yes.

372 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 5:04:36pm

re: #367 Charles Johnson

I always marvel at the incredible egomania and narcissism it takes for someone to call themselves a name like “Truth Teller.”

Superhero complex.

I liked Alice Cooper’s comment on “Prince of Darkness” claims from so many rock performers (Ozzy Osbourne, Marilyn Manson).

“I prefer to call myself the “Jester of Twilight”.

373 Archangelus  Jul 18, 2014 5:05:31pm

re: #370 De Kolta Chair

What does Zombie Mitt most crave?

Baaaaaaaiiiiiiinnnnssss

Thank you, thank, and for god’s sake DON’T try the veal.

374 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:06:04pm

Heeeeey LGF

by the way.

I’m in the great place called the weekend, with not one thing planned.

375 Aunty Entity Dragon  Jul 18, 2014 5:07:44pm

Out for now. Have a good weekend, lizards,

376 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 5:08:43pm
377 b_sharp  Jul 18, 2014 5:09:33pm

re: #367 Charles Johnson

I always marvel at the incredible egomania and narcissism it takes for someone to call themselves a name like “Truth Teller.”

Might as well call herself ‘Inflated Ego’

378 TedStriker  Jul 18, 2014 5:12:04pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

Maybe this would explain why he’s been such a complete fucking asshole to me.

Some people are just mean drunks.

379 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:13:32pm

Sister WW, thank you for this new follow.

I’m not snake-crazy, but some of them are absolutely beautiful - did you see the snake temple post?? Gotta scroll to the 2nd story to see.

snakebuddies.net

And then there’s this

380 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 5:15:19pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

Heeeeey LGF

by the way.

I’m in the great place called the weekend, with not one thing planned.

I’m going to have to go by the center tomorrow and set up SQL server express on 18 machines for a class next week. If I were there this week I’d have set up one machine with the SQL install files on it along with a setup script, imaged that, and then deployed it out. Since I got to stay home this week I am going to do it old school. Won’t be like work, more like computer babysitting.

I also get to pick up my two new (to me) olympus cameras, lens, and underwater housing. They are sitting in a box waiting for me at the office.

Sunday, I hope to go diving. Working on some skills, almost got it nailed last week, just ran out of time.

RBS

381 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:16:46pm

re: #380 RealityBasedSteve

I’m going to have to go by the center tomorrow and set up SQL server express on 18 machines for a class next week. If I were there this week I’d have set up one machine with the SQL install files on it along with a setup script, imaged that, and then deployed it out. Since I got to stay home this week I am going to do it old school. Won’t be like work, more like computer babysitting.

I also get to pick up my two new (to me) olympus cameras, lens, and underwater housing. They are sitting in a box waiting for me at the office.

Sunday, I hope to go diving. Working on some skills, almost got it nailed last week, just ran out of time.

RBS

haha. You freak. I will be your yang and sit on the sofa all weekend.

382 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 5:17:49pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

Heeeeey LGF

by the way.

I’m in the great place called the weekend, with not one thing planned.

Enjoy! I work tonight then I have to go take a beat up old prius to the scrap yard and pray I can get enough money to cover my first child support payment… Nothing like $750 in bills on a $535 paycheck next Friday… :(

383 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:19:39pm

re: #379 Stanley Sea

Sister WW, thank you for this new follow.

I’m not snake-crazy, but some of them are absolutely beautiful - did you see the snake temple post?? Gotta scroll to the 2nd story to see.

snakebuddies.net

And then there’s this

[Embedded content]

I’m wasn’t following them (but I am now)! You may have gotten it from one of the froggy-type accounts I follow.

384 bubba zanetti  Jul 18, 2014 5:19:46pm

re: #318 Aunty Entity Dragon

[Embedded content]

4Chan Airlines, with nonstop flights from SUX to LOL and BFF.

(Lovelock, NV and Scotts Bluff, NE)

385 Lidane  Jul 18, 2014 5:21:54pm

re: #316 Aunty Entity Dragon

aaaand on that note, Dreher is melting down over Obama being expected to sign an executive order banning discrimination against GLBT people for federal contractors. The order will not contain a clause exempting religious contractors.

of course… This is tranny gay tyranny and it iz time fer Christians to use teh “Benedict Option” and go to our version of Galt’s Gulch!

theamericanconservative.com

I have never seen a more determined example of chilice tightening, martyrdom seeking, self flagellating victimhood.

The guy needs to see a counselor.

Rod Dreher has been an insufferable douche for years. I used to read his column when he posted at Beliefnet and tried to pretend he was a “crunchy granola conservative”.

He started going to an Orthodox church because the Catholics were too librul and he’s crunchy granola? Pfft.

386 prairiefire  Jul 18, 2014 5:21:59pm

re: #383 wrenchwench

I’m wasn’t following them (but I am now)! You may have gotten it from one of the froggy-type accounts I follow.

[Embedded content]

Winning the internets!

387 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:22:31pm

re: #382 William Barnett-Lewis

Luck. Luck. Luck.

388 prairiefire  Jul 18, 2014 5:22:32pm

re: #381 Stanley Sea

haha. You freak. I will be your yang and sit on the sofa all weekend.

Let’s find something on Netflix!

389 blueraven  Jul 18, 2014 5:22:48pm

re: #382 William Barnett-Lewis

Enjoy! I work tonight then I have to go take a beat up old prius to the scrap yard and pray I can get enough money to cover my first child support payment… Nothing like $750 in bills on a $535 paycheck next Friday… :(

Wait, did I miss something? You got a divorce?

390 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:23:01pm

re: #383 wrenchwench

I’m wasn’t following them (but I am now)! You may have gotten it from one of the froggy-type accounts I follow.

[Embedded content]

hahahahaha. Oh my.

391 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:23:31pm

re: #383 wrenchwench

Read the temple post. Amazing. But from 2013, dude needs to get back at it.

392 prairiefire  Jul 18, 2014 5:24:04pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

Heeeeey LGF

by the way.

I’m in the great place called the weekend, with not one thing planned.

Find an estate sale!

393 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:24:32pm

re: #382 William Barnett-Lewis

Are you getting sufficient time with your son? {{{WB-L}}}

394 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 5:24:37pm

Membership drive.

395 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 5:26:12pm

re: #389 blueraven

Wait, did I miss something? You got a divorce?

in the process.

396 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 5:26:59pm

re: #393 wrenchwench

Are you getting sufficient time with your son? {{{WB-L}}}

Yeah, the night shift thing crimps it a bit but we have a night together every Sunday night (my weekend).

397 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:28:45pm
398 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:29:06pm

re: #392 prairiefire

Find an estate sale!

Oh Prairie. I wish. I’m so unbelievably budgeted these days. If I want to travel to see my family I have to save every penny, every freaking paycheck. (double income days were good, everything else not so)

Frustrating that I live in a very expensive place and make a mediocre salary. I actually have indeed searching for my job across the US. Got alerts from North Carolina and Cleveland! Didn’t respond, but the NC one is still there.

bleah.

399 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 5:29:20pm

re: #397 wrenchwench

Lizard is not having a good day.

400 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 18, 2014 5:30:14pm

I live outside Detroit but we get our water and sewer from the Detroit infrastructure. I pay my bill on time. However I think there should be a minimum amount of water supplied to all households to maintain human needs and sanitary conditions, payment schedules can be worked out later.

401 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:30:18pm

re: #394 jaunte

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Membership drive.

In Orange CA. I thought they were talking about Orange, FL.

Unreal.

402 blueraven  Jul 18, 2014 5:30:22pm

re: #395 William Barnett-Lewis

in the process.

Oh man, so sorry to hear that. I hope you get to be with your son as much as possible.

403 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 5:30:35pm

re: #397 wrenchwench

Unhappy lizard is unhappy.

404 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:30:52pm

re: #396 William Barnett-Lewis

Didn’t realize. Hugs and support from afar.

405 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 5:31:07pm
406 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 5:31:10pm

re: #399 jaunte

Lizard is not having a good day.

He’s like “Mother of Mercy… is this the end of Rico?”

RBS

407 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:31:14pm

re: #397 wrenchwench

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OH my neighbor heard me laugh.

408 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:33:20pm

Thanks for the new follow, Stanley!

409 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:35:00pm

re: #408 wrenchwench

Thanks for the new follow, Stanley!

[Embedded content]

It came from you! today! (I think, I was working….eh)

410 prairiefire  Jul 18, 2014 5:35:06pm

re: #398 Stanley Sea

North Carolina is very pretty and is becoming more blue. You do live in a very expensive area! Fucking divorce, a lady’s total income in general goes down by quite a bit. We live in a big & beautiful country!

411 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:35:41pm

re: #408 wrenchwench

Go through your image library my dear.

412 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 5:38:37pm

Pet Peeve… People who confuse Gentile and Gentle. (and also Genital). I do have to admit that that he doesn’t look Jewish, but I’m not sure that was what the author intended.

RBS

413 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 5:40:55pm

That’s the last snake I posted.

414 jamesfirecat  Jul 18, 2014 5:41:14pm

re: #412 RealityBasedSteve

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Pet Peeve… People who confuse Gentile and Gentle. (and also Genital). I do have to admit that that he doesn’t look Jewish, but I’m not sure that was what the author intended.

RBS

Clearly Saint Peter converted all the snakes in Ireland before he chased them off…

415 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 5:42:04pm

re: #413 wrenchwench

hmm. Well he followed me back & I love it.

416 Romantic Heretic  Jul 18, 2014 5:42:38pm

re: #394 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Membership drive.

My first thought? I may be short of toilet paper but I’m not wiping my ass with that.

417 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 5:44:18pm

re: #414 jamesfirecat

Clearly Saint Peter converted all the snakes in Ireland before he chased them off…

I truly and literally LOLed at that.

418 Kid A  Jul 18, 2014 5:47:31pm

“Far left crackpot and liberal darling Sen. Elizabeth Warren released her 11 commandments of American socialism this week.”

Guess who? I laughed so hard my adult beverage came through my nose as Dim Jim called someone a “crackpot.”

419 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 18, 2014 5:52:28pm

re: #414 jamesfirecat

Clearly Saint Peter converted all the snakes in Ireland before he chased them off…

420 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 5:55:38pm

Europe should think about using Kaliningrad as a pawn against Russia.

421 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 5:58:44pm

re: #373 Archangelus

[Embedded image]

Ya know, I used to be a boxer. They called Me Canvasback De Kolta.

I’ll never forget my first fight. First came a right cross, then a left cross, and then the Red Cross.

But I had to quit the fight game, cuz I was so bowlegged that when I sat around the ring I really sat around the ring.

422 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 7:17:04pm

re: #360 RealityBasedSteve

ah, but there is a place where what I said is, in fact, true. 5 bonus points to whoever gets it.

RBS

It’s a female from the plane of Trollia actually.

(The Myth Adventure series.)


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