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1 OhNoZombies!  Jul 18, 2014 6:05:12pm

I should probably feel guilty for laughing so hard, and for trying desperately to call the number, but summer vacation can feel so very long…
:-)
I keed,I keed.

2 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:06:43pm

This seems perfect for those times when you’re sick and tired of reading to them from Go the Fuck to Sleep.

3 wrenchwench  Jul 18, 2014 6:07:34pm

Later, lizards.

4 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:08:50pm
5 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:09:55pm
6 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:10:42pm
7 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:13:43pm
8 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 6:13:49pm

Simplistic? All Putin needs to do is tell the thugs to let the investigators in.

THEY ARE LOOTING.

Monsters.

9 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:15:14pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

When you have a chance—maybe during a Twitter ceasefire //—can we have a “Photography” category for the Pages?

10 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:16:05pm

I just caught this today. One of Dim Jim’s bloggers was going after the agency, BCFS, proposing that facility in Weslaco. I won’t link, but the headline is: UPDATE on BCFS: Using the word “Baptist” in the Government organization title doesn’t make it a Church

So, they must be taking some heat for sinking a project organized by Republican Baptists.

On a brighter note, I woke up this morning to find Wonkette’s Doc Zoom referred to me by name (twice) and linked to my post. wonkette.com

And I have heard absolutely nothing from Hoft or Taylor via email, Twitter or website. Color me surprised.

11 b_sharp  Jul 18, 2014 6:17:34pm

re: #9 CuriousLurker

When you have a chance—maybe during a Twitter ceasefire //—can we have a “Photography” category for the Pages?

Someone is having fun with her new hobby.

12 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:19:57pm

re: #11 b_sharp

Someone is having fun with her new hobby.

Heh, yep. There are 4-5 of us who post photos on a pretty regular basis, so it would be helpful since the other categories don’t always fit the subject matter.

13 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 6:20:31pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

How this is different from Putin/Russia’s usual how?

How many Chechens were murdered by Putin? How many Tatars were forced out by him and Stalin? Ask the Finns, Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians about their history with Russia.Or the groups still stuck in there, like the Kalmyks, the Dagestanis, among others.

Russia is stuck in the 18th-19th Centuries. And refuses to mature.

14 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:22:33pm

Since this isn’t a serious thread, I figure it’s okay to go OT and point to my latest page: As a Father Who Lost His Children in Gaza, I Call for an End to This Bloodshed

Now I’m gonna stop thinking about serious/sad things and go lose myself in videos for the rest of the night.

Later, lizards. ;)

15 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:22:34pm

re: #10 wheat-dogghazi

Your post was great. Their threats of lawsuits are complete bullshit. No lawyer would take a case like that - it would be unethical, they’d lose, and very possibly be sanctioned.

16 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 6:22:47pm

re: #10 wheat-dogghazi

I just caught this today. One of Dim Jim’s bloggers was going after the agency, BCFS, proposing that facility in Weslaco. I won’t link, but the headline is: UPDATE on BCFS: Using the word “Baptist” in the Government organization title doesn’t make it a Church

So, they must be taking some heat for sinking a project organized by Republican Baptists.

On a brighter note, I woke up this morning to find Wonkette’s Doc Zoom referred to me by name (twice) and linked to my post. wonkette.com

And I have heard absolutely nothing from Hoft or Taylor via email, Twitter or website. Color me surprised.

Yes… I saw that. You’re like famous now. Not like Kato Kaelin famous, but still… your next stop is probably “Dancing with the Stars”.

Seriously, that was an EXCELLENT piece you did. I can occasionally put one word after another to express a coherent thought, but that was masterful.

Like I did downstairs to close off that thread (Philly wasn’t around to do it)…

Well done Sir…. Well Done.

17 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 6:23:17pm

re: #10 wheat-dogghazi

I just caught this today. One of Dim Jim’s bloggers was going after the agency, BCFS, proposing that facility in Weslaco. I won’t link, but the headline is: UPDATE on BCFS: Using the word “Baptist” in the Government organization title doesn’t make it a Church

So, they must be taking some heat for sinking a project organized by Republican Baptists.

On a brighter note, I woke up this morning to find Wonkette’s Doc Zoom referred to me by name (twice) and linked to my post. wonkette.com

And I have heard absolutely nothing from Hoft or Taylor via email, Twitter or website. Color me surprised.

I knew you were sleeping. Awaiting you seeing that. KUDOS.

One of the most succinct fact checking pages I’ve ever seen.

And yeah, you KNEW that had to walk back attacking the Baptists.

18 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:25:30pm

re: #9 CuriousLurker

Ok - to match the front page page categories, I added an “Images” category.

19 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 6:26:07pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

Heh, yep. There are 4-5 of us who post photos on a pretty regular basis, so it would be helpful since the other categories don’t always fit the subject matter.

I feel like such a slacker, haven’t really gone out and made any pictures. The worst part, I’m picking up my new (to me at least) olympus mirrorless camera bodies / lens and underwater housing tomorrow, it’s sitting behind the desk back at the center, haven’t been in this week.

Need to do some studies of the architecture in downtown Nashville. Maybe a good project for me once I get SQL installed in 16 machines.

20 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:28:37pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Ok - to match the front page page categories, I added an “Images” category.

Thanks! You’re sorta like having a genie—just rub the magic lamp, and out you pop in a swirl of green smoke to grant our wishes. LOL

21 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:29:30pm

re: #19 RealityBasedSteve

I feel like such a slacker, haven’t really gone out and made any pictures. The worst part, I’m picking up my new (to me at least) olympus mirrorless camera bodies / lens and underwater housing tomorrow, it’s sitting behind the desk back at the center, haven’t been in this week.

Need to do some studies of the architecture in downtown Nashville. Maybe a good project for me once I get SQL installed in 16 machines.

Yeah, I saw your post about the deal you got on the cameras—lucky you!

22 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:31:01pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

So where’s Barbara Eden when I need her?

23 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 18, 2014 6:31:30pm

“NAPTIME” mocks all those commercialized behavior modification programs we see for dealing with unruly children, everything from instructional books to inpatient camp programs that have been the subject of one abuse scandal after another.

24 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:32:35pm

Apply directly to forehead. Repeat until effective.

Evening Lizardim.

25 sagehen  Jul 18, 2014 6:33:08pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

Heh, yep. Also, there are 4-5 of us who post photos on a pretty regular basis, so it would be helpful since the other categories don’t always fit the subject matter.

I tried to get a photo of Obama yesterday, but… Even though he was only two buildings away, his motocade came the other way around the block so I didn’t even get to see much of that. His car pulled up to the tentlike structure they’d put up at the front door to the building, there was a blur of movement (too far for my iPhone even if they’d moved slower). Later, most of the rest of the motorcade (empty) drove in front of my building to the end of the block to turn around and be ready to leave going the other way. 3 SUV’s labeled press, something that looked like a bomb unit truck, an ambulance, a bunch of NYPD on motocycles, and half a dozen sedans with mostly dark windows that when they were directly in front you could see through sorta to know they were empty.

There was no parking on the street that day, all the cars that own parking spaces in the driveway had to be moved for the day, those waist-height barricades they use for parades blocked us from getting onto the sidewalk (dozens from my building congregated in our driveway, right up to the line of where we could go and gawk and not see anything). Someone with binoculars told me there were secret service on rooftops of several buildings, but they may have been mistaken — somebody also thought my buiding manager was secret service, because he wore a dark suit and shades and has a buzzcut.

My not brush with destiny. But still, I can say I was within 100 yards of President Obama for a moment. Which is definitely more exciting than the time in 1976 I handed Steven Ford a slice of pizza.

26 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 18, 2014 6:33:55pm

The funniest part is the apparently legit doctor saying, “this is chloroform…”

27 Floral Giraffe  Jul 18, 2014 6:35:30pm

VERY funny video!

28 Varek Raith  Jul 18, 2014 6:36:44pm

Just got through my backlog of emails and some requests on twitter.
Sorry for the delay.

29 jaunte  Jul 18, 2014 6:38:57pm

New Toyota minivan lets parents use built-in microphone to scream at unruly kids in back seats

Toyota calls it “Driver Easy Speak.”

30 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 6:39:30pm

re: #21 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I saw your post about the deal you got on the cameras—lucky you!

funny thing… The guy that owns the local bike shop, where I’ve done business for 15+ years now, asked me how I get some of the great deals that I’ve scored over the years. I tell him, (and I really believe it), it’s because of karma. I try to treat people right and fairly, and sometime it comes back to me. Sort of like the “Rule of 3’s”.

I love the stuff you’ve posted, you have a great eye. I’ve got some technical skills, but anybody can learn that. You have an eye for the shot, and that can only be taught just so far. That’s what I’m working on.

Ohh… New toys to play with, and the Canon 60d with the 15-85 and my old Non-stabilized 70-210 F4 are all packed up. Going to go make some pictures tomorrow.

RBS

31 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 6:40:40pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

Thanks! You’re sorta like having a genie—just rub the magic lamp, and out you pop in a swirl of green smoke to grant our wishes. LOL

Thanks, but I’d really rather NOT have a mental picture of Charles in harem pants and crop top vest.

RBS

32 dog philosopher  Jul 18, 2014 6:41:09pm

synnex corporation

despite the name, it doesn’t make any products that get rid of sin

33 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:43:22pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Your post was great. Their threats of lawsuits are complete bullshit. No lawyer would take a case like that - it would be unethical, they’d lose, and very possibly be sanctioned.

I’m not worried. I had oil industry executives threaten me with bodily harm back when I was a reporter. Kristinn Taylor is milquetoast by comparison.

34 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 6:44:25pm

re: #33 wheat-dogghazi

I’m not worried. I had oil industry executives threaten me with bodily harm back when I was a reporter. Kristinn Taylor is milquetoast by comparison.

Wow. That’s pretty hardcore.

35 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 6:48:28pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

re: #16 RealityBasedSteve

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Thanks, y’all. Thanks to Orson, too, for the hand clap.

As for Dancing with the Stars, if Bill Nye can do it, why not me?

36 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 6:48:52pm

re: #33 wheat-dogghazi

I’m not worried. I had oil industry executives threaten me with bodily harm back when I was a reporter. Kristinn Taylor is milquetoast by comparison.

I’ve actually paid lawyers to investigate possible defamation lawsuits. It was a learning experience.

37 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:52:45pm

re: #30 RealityBasedSteve

Thanks for the compliment. Can’t wait to see what you comes back with!

re: #31 RealityBasedSteve

Thanks, but I’d really rather NOT have a mental picture of Charles in harem pants and crop top vest.

RBS

LOL

38 CuriousLurker  Jul 18, 2014 6:57:54pm

Okay, there’s a troll dropping anti-Muslim turds in in RWC’s most recent Page, so I’m gonna skedaddle before I lose my cool.

Later, lizards.

39 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 7:01:43pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

Okay, there’s a troll dropping anti-Muslim turds in in RWC’s most recent thread, so I’m gonna skedaddle before I lose my cool.

Later, lizards.

Finished allowing that asshole to post at LGF. Gone.

40 freetoken  Jul 18, 2014 7:02:44pm

We need a NapTime! for trolls.

41 Teukka  Jul 18, 2014 7:04:03pm

I don’t know if these two have been posted earlier here on LGF, but I find them as fun as the above, and these have … how should I put it … a suitable political edge in my taste. Maybe NSFW. Definitively NSFWN*.

Spoiler

Not Safe for WingNuts


Youtube Video
Youtube Video
*dons lizard-who-has-hatched-world-domination-plan smile*

42 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:05:59pm

I don’t have have a Juris Doctor, only a measly MFA — in Art! — but can I still count posting this comment as a billable hour?

43 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 18, 2014 7:06:27pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Finished allowing that asshole to post at LGF. Gone.

Thank you good sir.

44 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 18, 2014 7:07:27pm

re: #40 freetoken

We need a NapTime! for trolls.

GrillTime!

45 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:11:34pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Finished allowing that asshole to post at LGF. Gone.

Troll barbecue is oiled and ready for its gamey buttocks. Tonight’s flavor is teriyaki.

46 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 7:13:19pm

re: #41 Teukka

I don’t know if these two have been posted earlier here on LGF, but I find them as fun as the above, and these have … how should I put it … a suitable political edge in my taste. Maybe NSFW. Definitively NSFWN*.

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]

Video
*dones lizard-who-has-hatched-world-domination-plan smile*

Too funny.

RBS

47 Gus  Jul 18, 2014 7:13:47pm

Heh. Over at Gateway Pundit.

DOCTOR WARNS — US Schools Could Face HEALTH CRISIS as Illegal Immigrants Enter Classrooms This Fall (Video)

Fox News. Here’s the links at her website.

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
bestpricemd.com
CSL H1N1 vaccine package Insert Information
Dr Andrew Moulden
Liberty Health Share
List of vaccine adjuvants
List of vaccines that contain thimerosal
Medibid
MedImmune H1N1 vaccine package insert
Medishare
National Vaccine Information Center
Novartis H1N1 vaccine package insert information
Peachtree ENT Center
Sanofi Pasteur H1N1 vaccine package insert
Synopsis of House healthcare reform bill HR3200
The Gardesil vaccine
The self pay patient
Vaxtruth
Vitamin D Deficiency and link to proliferation of H1N1
Vitamin D guide

Anti-vaxxer?

48 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:17:32pm

re: #47 Gus

Science! Defenestration!

49 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 7:19:04pm

re: #47 Gus

Heh. Over at Gateway Pundit.

DOCTOR WARNS — US Schools Could Face HEALTH CRISIS as Illegal Immigrants Enter Classrooms This Fall (Video)

Fox News. Here’s the links at her website.

Anti-vaxxer?

About the “Association of American Physicians and Surgeons”…

littlegreenfootballs.com

50 Floral Giraffe  Jul 18, 2014 7:19:05pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Finished allowing that asshole to post at LGF. Gone.

Looked like it might have been a stalker’s sock!
“Registered since: Mar 3, 2007 at 4:42 pm”

51 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 7:19:37pm

The short version: this is a batshit insane far right group.

52 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 7:19:48pm

re: #47 Gus

Hoft prob German. His Grandfather or great Grandfather heard the same shit. FOR SHAME.

53 The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 18, 2014 7:20:12pm

re: #47 Gus

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

All purpose right wing quack organization.

54 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:22:04pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

About the “Association of American Physicians and Surgeons”…

littlegreenfootballs.com

Don’t make me flip this desk.

55 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:22:08pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

The short version: this is a batshit insane far right group.

Lengthier version: Coming to a click-crazy mainstream media outlet near you!

56 thatthatisis  Jul 18, 2014 7:23:00pm

In case anyone’s interested, I’m posting this from Detroit where I’m attending the progressives’ convention (Netroots Nation). Fun group. Lots of different viewpoints. And don’t believe the press that it’s all Elizabeth Warren, either. There are plenty of people saying they love Warren but don’t think sh’s ready.

The most common take is that the progressives have loads of good candidates to choose from so they’re willing to support lots of them.

57 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 7:24:03pm

re: #56 thatthatisis

In case anyone’s interested, I’m posting this from Detroit where I’m attending the progressives’ convention (Netroots Nation). Fun group. Lots of different viewpoints. And don’t believe the press that it’s all Elizabeth Warren, either. There are plenty of people saying they love Warren but don’t think sh’s ready.

The most common take is that the progressives have loads of good candidates to choose from so they’re willing to support lots of them.

EH, she can do more good in the senate keeping the banksters on their toes than she could in the White House.

58 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 7:24:48pm

re: #56 thatthatisis

In case anyone’s interested, I’m posting this from Detroit where I’m attending the progressives’ convention (Netroots Nation). Fun group. Lots of different viewpoints. And don’t believe the press that it’s all Elizabeth Warren, either. There are plenty of people saying they love Warren but don’t think sh’s ready.

The most common take is that the progressives have loads of good candidates to choose from so they’re willing to support lots of them.

Keep reporting!

59 blueraven  Jul 18, 2014 7:27:05pm

re: #47 Gus

Heh. Over at Gateway Pundit.

DOCTOR WARNS — US Schools Could Face HEALTH CRISIS as Illegal Immigrants Enter Classrooms This Fall (Video)

Fox News. Here’s the links at her website.

Anti-vaxxer?

Yes…Dr Andrew Moulden

Through my extensive research and my work throughout the years, I have discovered that vaccinations are causing impaired blood flow (ischemia) to brain and body from clinically silent to death. These are strokes - across the board for all of us. I have reason to believe that all are being affected and all vaccinations ARE causing the overwhelming rise in autism, specific learning disabilities, attention deficit disorders, sudden infant death, gulf war syndrome, dementia, seizure disorders, some cancers it would appear, and much much more.

60 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 7:31:18pm

re: #59 blueraven

Dogs and cats living together!

61 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:32:23pm

re: #59 blueraven

Yes…Dr Andrew Moulden

I hate, hate, hate these idiots, not because they’re idiots — that’s their problem — but because they have no qualms about putting children in grave danger — which is everyone’s problem.

62 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:35:06pm

re: #59 blueraven

Yes…Dr Andrew Moulden

Yet not a lick of it has been published. I wonder why.

63 thatthatisis  Jul 18, 2014 7:35:19pm

A little history - the year before he died, Breitbart crashed the Netroots convention. He came down the escalator. I was about 5 or 6 feet away. This was on our main convention floor, just in front of the door where you’d need a badge to enter. So he was legal, but no one would have been there unless they were planning to enter. So it was clear he was just making trouble. I couldn’t hear exactly what he said to some of our attendees but it was obviously confrontational from the reaction. Some of our folks yelled out “just ignore him” so that was the main reaction after a few moments. I guess he got frustrated because he finally left after about 10 minutes. What an ass he was.

64 thedopefishlives  Jul 18, 2014 7:37:46pm

Good night, gentle lizards. Be careful flipping your desks - I suggest you consult RealityBasedSteve for something a little easier on the back. Thoughts and prayers with you all.

65 OhNoZombies!  Jul 18, 2014 7:38:16pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

I hate, hate, hate these idiots, not because they’re idiots — that’s their problem — but because they have no qualms about putting children in grave danger — which is everyone’s problem.

Yep, and people are inclined to believe whatever a doctor will tell them, with the assumption that that the doc will have one’s best interests in mind.
Scary.

66 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 7:39:22pm

It seems the RWNJs are targeting BCFS solely because of its work with immigrants. Not linking to site, but here is the Alipac headline The new ACORN? How about Baptist Child and Family Services.

67 thatthatisis  Jul 18, 2014 7:39:48pm

The press hasn’t reported that Chuck Schumer spoke yesterday. He was treated very nicely with a big round of applause. He spoke about immigration, and gave a really stunningly personal attack on Rep. Steve King. He asked to speak at the convention ( not the kind of senator who would normally be on the guest list), so I’m wondering what he was really up to.

68 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:40:37pm

re: #65 OhNoZombies!

Yep, and people are inclined to believe whatever a doctor will tell them, with the assumption that that the doc will have one’s best interests in mind.
Scary.

Personally, my doctors are a bright bunch. Of course, when I’m gone I may have a different opinion.

69 bratwurst  Jul 18, 2014 7:46:42pm
70 calochortus  Jul 18, 2014 7:47:40pm

re: #1 OhNoZombies!

I should probably feel guilty for laughing so hard, and for trying desperately to call the number, but summer vacation can feel so very long…
:-)
I keed,I keed.

When my kids were young and we were looking at buying a new car, I asked the salesman whether any of the station wagons came with a roll up window between the front and back seats and a little nozzle in the back for the knockout gas (like in all the spy movies.) Sadly, there was nothing like that available at the time.

71 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 7:50:56pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi

It seems the RWNJs are targeting BCFS solely because of its work with immigrants. Not linking to site, but here is the Alipac headline The new ACORN? How about Baptist Child and Family Services.

When they attack Baptists.

Talibangilists.

72 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 7:52:34pm

In case you missed this.

73 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 7:57:50pm

re: #72 Stanley Sea

In case you missed this.

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“I believe that we will one day have to answer for our actions and our inactions. My faith teaches that ‘if a stranger dwells with you in your land, you shall not mistreat him,’ but rather ‘love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt,’” Patrick said , quoting scripture, as he grew visibly emotional.

“Once, in 1939, we turned our backs on Jewish children fleeing the Nazis, and it remains a blight on our national reputation,” said Patrick. “The point is that this good nation is great when we open our doors and our hearts to needy children, and diminished when we don’t.”

74 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 7:58:42pm

re: #69 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

TV soap operas began to vanish at the same time the internet got big. Coincidence or another one of Victor Newman’s diabolical schemes?

75 OhNoZombies!  Jul 18, 2014 7:58:49pm

re: #70 calochortus

When my kids were young and we were looking at buying a new car, I asked the salesman whether any of the station wagons came with a roll up window between the front and back seats and a little nozzle in the back for the knockout gas (like in all the spy movies.) Sadly, there was nothing like that available at the time.

Ha! Hmmmm, I wonder…$$$

Usually iPods and earbuds keep it quiet in the car, otherwise I just have to take away their laptops, and tell them that a needy kid is about to hit the jackpot.
They know I’m serious, cause toys have disappeared.

76 calochortus  Jul 18, 2014 7:59:42pm

re: #75 OhNoZombies!

Ahhh, modern technology…

77 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 8:02:08pm
78 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 18, 2014 8:02:45pm

Have a good one all, I’m off to the motel once again.

79 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 8:04:11pm

re: #74 De Kolta Chair

Considering it was Soap Operas that killed Doctor Who, this is a good thing. Along with fact that a lot of it is Tripe.

80 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:09:11pm

re: #79 The War TARDIS

As a friend of mine once said about soap operas, “I love seeing white people in trouble.”

81 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 8:10:57pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

When they attack Baptists.

Talibangilists.

They’ve got their underwear in knots about spending SOOO much money on them ill eagles. BCFS got a $190 million grant to open six new offices across the country, and the RWNJs see this as some kind of stupendous theft of Our Tax Dollars. They’re also complaining that the CEO of BCFS makes about $450,000 a year, which is Outrageous!!11ty!!

Meanwhile, I’m trying to track down the source of the $50M figure Kristinn Taylor quoted in the original story and is sticking to like a bee in honey. It was only mentioned in the TV report he cites, and no where else.

Surprise, surprise, surprise!

82 De Kolta Chair  Jul 18, 2014 8:11:05pm

Ciao y’all. I’m off to find a strange hotel with a neon burnin’ bright…

83 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:13:25pm

re: #82 De Kolta Chair

Just don’t go to any hash houses that have the word “EAT” spelled out in light bulbs.

84 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 8:14:53pm

re: #80 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That’s a problem too. Most of the time, soaps have the skin tone ranging from paper, to peach.

British ones are more diverse, but are still badly written.

Also, gave my Imam a heads-up. As I think this story will create trouble for American Muslims.

Philadelphia mosque leaders try to cut off man’s hand

Thank You Randall for putting the page up on it.

85 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:19:12pm

re: #84 The War TARDIS

Oh, shit. Just what the wingers need.

On another note, if you want some serious soapy goodness try watching the Spanish language telenovelas.

86 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 8:20:11pm

re: #85 Higgs Boson’s Mate

One warning sign with the mosque-The Imam is 35 years old.

87 KiTA  Jul 18, 2014 8:21:18pm

theverge.com

Putin’s administration was caught adding propaganda to the Malaysia air disaster page. Specifically they changed:

The plane [flight MH17] was shot down by terrorists of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic with Buk system missiles, which the terrorists received from the Russian Federation.

to:

The plane [flight MH17] was shot down by Ukrainian soldiers.

Quite a few “But it was the Ukranians” / “Westerners just wanna blame Russia for everything” comments in there, too.

88 OhNoZombies!  Jul 18, 2014 8:21:24pm

Speaking of Brit shows…of to binge on some more Midsomer Murders.
That show is cra-cray.
G’night all.

89 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 8:23:47pm
90 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:24:24pm

re: #88 OhNoZombies!

Loves me some Brit police procedurals. Midsomer is a good one - despite the theremin music.

91 Blue Fielder  Jul 18, 2014 8:24:34pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel

Ugh, you mean like that creepy woman who talks about why you should buy her (probably bullshit - or worse, eerily mind-controlish) system if your child is “disrespectful”? Free tip, cupcake, THAT’S WHAT TEENAGERS ARE LIKE! Hell, I was, and I know it, unlike my contemporaries.

92 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 8:25:02pm

re: #80 Higgs Boson’s Mate

As a friend of mine once said about soap operas, “I love seeing white people in trouble.”

The thing that always amused me about soap operas was the time shifting that could take place. A simple dinner party could take over a week, a wedding, that was 2 weeks, an operation might take a month, but Christmas, New Years, Thanksgiving all rolled around right on schedule. How do they do that?

RBS

93 calochortus  Jul 18, 2014 8:25:47pm

re: #88 OhNoZombies!

Speaking of Brit shows…of to binge on some more Midsomer Murders.
That show is cra-cray.
G’night all.

One of our local PBS stations is showing the “Orchis Fatalis” episode now. I’ve seen it once before, but it’s worth seeing again.

94 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 8:27:21pm
95 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 18, 2014 8:27:43pm

A couple of the British shows I really enjoyed were “Keeping Up Appearances” and “Waiting for God”.

RBS

96 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:32:05pm

re: #92 RealityBasedSteve

It was like looking through the wrong end of a telescope. My late mom loved the soaps and I’m old enough to remember when they were performed live. Once, on Edge of Night, the Surgeon Who Had to Redeem Himself was in the middle of a multi-episode operation;
“Scalpel!”
“Suture.”
“Hyponermic Deedle.”

I, at age ten, was on the floor.

97 Stanley Sea  Jul 18, 2014 8:32:17pm

I’m going to keep with my work week schedule. Early to bed, early to rise.

I’ll leave you with this

xenophobia

98 BeachDem  Jul 18, 2014 8:37:32pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Loves me some Brit police procedurals. Midsomer is a good one - despite the theremin music.

Try “Touching Evil.” Robson Green is incredible. Some of the cases are downright creepy, but the show is outstanding.

imdb.com

99 calochortus  Jul 18, 2014 8:38:44pm

Well, I think I’ll turn my full attention to Midsomer’s latest suspicious deaths.

Hasta mañana, lizards.

100 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:41:07pm

re: #98 BeachDem

The imdb summary looks fascinating. I have Netflix, but they don’t have the show. And I’m cheap.

101 prairiefire  Jul 18, 2014 8:42:42pm

re: #25 sagehen

A slice of pizza! Presidential pizza..

102 Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2014 8:43:48pm
103 BeachDem  Jul 18, 2014 8:47:47pm

re: #100 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The imdb summary looks fascinating. I have Netflix, but they don’t have the show. And I’m cheap.

See if they have “Wire in the Blood,” another Robson Green series, equally good. (And keep an eye out for “Touching Evil.” )

Edit to add—just noticed that USA Network did an American version of “Touching Evil” but from the reviews, it’s a shadow of the Robson Green version.

104 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 18, 2014 8:49:13pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

Dang me. Triple distilled cuteness. I didn’t have a pet for nearly fifty years. Then I was introduced to my terrier mix. He’s a rescue. He was smelly, dirty, missing considerable fur and he was mine. I didn’t think that I had that much heart left.

105 goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2014 8:51:04pm

So, if this map on the NY Times is anything close to correct then it would have been physically impossible for Ukrainian forces to have launched that missile, since the lateral range of the most capable BUK missile is far less than the shortest distance from the crash site to the closest edge of rebel controlled territory- unless Ukraine snuck one into that thin section in the southeast, right next to the border with Russia, which seems doubtful to say the least.

American intelligence agencies concluded that the Boeing 777-200 was struck by a Russian-made SA-11 missile fired from a rebel-controlled area near the border in Ukraine. American analysts were focused on an area near the small towns of Snizhne and Torez, about midway between the rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk.

Their determination was based on an analysis of the launch plume and trajectory of the missile, as detected by an American military spy satellite.

106 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 9:03:13pm

China’s President Xi Jinping calls for a fair an objective probe of the MH17 crash. thestar.com.my

Two of the passengers were a Hong Kong resident (a chef) and his wife.

107 Interesting Times  Jul 18, 2014 9:18:09pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi

China’s President Xi Jinping calls for a fair an objective probe of the MH17 crash. thestar.com.my

I hope that will be remotely possible before the russia-backed rebel thugs loot and desecrate the place even further.

108 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 9:34:10pm

re: #107 Interesting Times

They have pretty much contaminated the crime scene, as it were.

109 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 9:38:33pm

re: #107 Interesting Times

The EU should ban flights to Kaliningrad using EU airspace.

For a starting point. We should now be offering NATO intervention to cleanse Eastern Ukraine of terrorist elements, and offer Moldova the same in regards to Transnistria.

110 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 9:48:34pm

I had a logical breakthrough why Libertarians make awful friends. Will explain it in the morning.

111 austin_blue  Jul 18, 2014 9:49:18pm

re: #105 goddamnedfrank

So, if this map on the NY Times is anything close to correct then it would have been physically impossible for Ukrainian forces to have launched that missile, since the lateral range of the most capable BUK missile is far less than the shortest distance from the crash site to the closest edge of rebel controlled territory- unless Ukraine snuck one into that thin section in the southeast, right next to the border with Russia, which seems doubtful to say the least.

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Why would the Ukes be firing missiles at planes the rebels don’t have in the first place?

Pooty-poot and his miscreants can spin it any way they want, but they turned away the inspectors today for a very good reason:

Their hands were covered with the blood of innocents.

They fucked the dog. They screwed the pooch. They thought they were firing at a Uke transport. And the Russians, if not actually manning the weapons system, must then have trained the Rebs to (mis)use it.

The EU, spurred by the Netherlands, will be in conclave this weekend. You can’t just slaughter 200 civilians of an EU member and claim that it is ancillary to an internal regional conflict. The EU is going to drop on Russia like a ton of bricks on Monday. Why?

The EU doesn’t need Russia’s natural gas in the summertime! Fuck your natural gas, Vlad, you little tin-pot Stalin! All your banks are dead to us. All your trade is dead to us. All of the Rodina is dead to us.

Tuesday is going to be an interesting day.

112 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 9:51:57pm

re: #111 austin_blue

It’s worse than that.

192 Dutch Citizens. However, other EU Members lost citizens as well.

Belgium lost 4, Germany another 4, Ireland lost 1, and the UK lost 10.

211 Dead EU Citizens.

113 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2014 9:52:34pm

re: #111 austin_blue

That’s going to be the main effect of this tragedy. Making the EU look at the Ukraine situation again and have a cause belli for sanctioning Russia and taking steps in that direction.

114 austin_blue  Jul 18, 2014 10:01:54pm

re: #112 The War TARDIS

It’s worse than that.

192 Dutch Citizens. However, other EU Members lost citizens as well.

Belgium lost 4, Germany another 4, Ireland lost 1, and the UK lost 10.

211 Dead EU Citizens.

Yes, but the Dutch will lead the way.

115 The War TARDIS  Jul 18, 2014 10:02:46pm

re: #114 austin_blue

And they should.

Is there a full list of the victims? I want to see the last names.

116 austin_blue  Jul 18, 2014 10:05:47pm

re: #113 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s going to be the main effect of this tragedy. Making the EU look at the Ukraine situation again and have a cause belli for sanctioning Russia and taking steps in that direction.

And it’s about damned time. The EU has taken a laissez faire attitude toward this conflict for months, and has emboldened Pooty. Time to turn the screws and make him realize just how fragile his petrocracy/kleptocracy is.

117 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 10:24:12pm

re: #115 The War TARDIS

And they should.

Is there a full list of the victims? I want to see the last names.

I don’t think it’s been released yet, pending notification of the families. Only the Malaysian crew manifest has been published.

There is this, however. forbes.com

It’s not official.

118 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 18, 2014 10:34:00pm

The Sydney Morning Herald this morning linked to this unofficial passenger manifest. It did not come from Malaysia Airlines or any official sources. However, i confirmed that some victims whose names have been released are also listed in the manifest. So, I’m providing the link here.
Scribd Document

119 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 10:34:52pm
120 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 10:37:28pm

Awwwww!!

121 austin_blue  Jul 18, 2014 10:42:57pm

re: #120 Joanne

Awwwww!!

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Hamster likes him some pasta!

122 austin_blue  Jul 18, 2014 10:52:59pm

re: #119 Joanne

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Israel has invaded Gaza. Russian surrogates have blown an airliner to pieces over the eastern Ukraine and killed 298 innocents. The economy of Europe and Russia hangs in the balance on what decisions the EU will take this weekend, and you post about a pedophile lurking among over three hundred million Americans who was appropriately beaten to shit by a father protecting his 11 year old son.

It must be really early on a Saturday morning at LGF.

123 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 10:59:45pm

re: #122 austin_blue

Israel has invaded Gaza. Russian surrogates have blown an airliner to pieces over the eastern Ukraine and killed 298 innocents. The economy of Europe and Russia hangs in the balance on what decisions the EU will take this weekend, and you post about a pedophile lurking among over three hundred million Americans who was appropriately beaten to shit by a father protecting his 11 year old son.

It must be really early on a Saturday morning at LGF.

I thought it interesting in a poetic justice kinda way.

And don’t forget the hamster. He was beyond cute! :-)

124 austin_blue  Jul 18, 2014 11:01:34pm

re: #123 Joanne

I thought it interesting in a poetic justice kinda way.

And don’t forget the hamster. He was beyond cute! :-)

Well, there is that.

125 Joanne  Jul 18, 2014 11:24:23pm

For the phototogs amongst us. Follow the link at wired for the cool as he’ll gallery.

126 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 18, 2014 11:45:49pm
127 goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2014 12:33:50am
President Vladimir Putin is missing a golden opportunity by not disowning the pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine. Instead, as pro-Putin media and social network trolls invent increasingly fantastical versions of the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, Russia risks becoming a pariah even to developing countries that have sympathized with its anti-American stance.

…

I may have missed a few other colorful myths, but the general plan is clear: to sow doubt in the minds of ordinary Russians. “The more versions, the less clear it is, the less clear it is, the more time there is to work out the final version that will later become canonical,” columnist Oleg Kashin wrote on svpressa.ru.

As Kashin also points out, it isn’t Russian TV that writes the canonical version of events internationally. In the eyes of the world, Putin is as guilty as he is portrayed on Friday’s front page of the British tabloid, the Sun. If Putin keeps backing the insurgents until their inevitable defeat, his international isolation will deepen, as did that of the Soviet Union’s leaders after their jets shot down a Korean passenger jet in 1983, and former Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi after the 1988 bombing of a PanAm airliner over Lockerbie, Scotland. Malaysia, a Muslim nation that has long fought American influence, can hardly be expected to listen to Russian fairy tales about the crash. The developing world will now join the West in condemning the rebels — and Putin as their only ally. “It’s one thing to be the modest helper of some rebels,” former Russian diplomat Alexander Baunov wrote on Facebook. “It’s another thing to help insurgents who have perpetrated one of the biggest terrorist attacks in the history of aviation.”

By disowning the rebels immediately — in the form of criminal proceedings against the Russian citizens among them, the immediate withdrawal of any Russian aid for them and a public admission that it was their activity that led to the downing of MH17 — Putin could abandon the losing side while saving face. The window of opportunity for Putin to escape this losing war is shrinking, however, and he is unlikely to get a better chance.

It’s an interesting position, but politically how realistic an option is this for Putin? It seems like he’s locked himself into symbiosis with a far-right, know-nothing base that cares about little more than reclaiming past nationalist glory and hating the West out of shear jingoistic angst.

The economic leverage is certainly there. Russia was facing a poor economic outlook before the annexation of Crimea. Now they’re two rounds of sanctions deep, their credit rating has been cut to BBB-, one step away from junk bond status, then this absolutely colossal fuck up happens at probably the most inopportune time imaginable. However since continued and possibly drastically increased sanctions are basically a long term certainty now matter what he does now how far can he successfully back peddle while maintaining his base of support? Sooner or later the average Russian is going to feel the economic effects, but the dead enders might well be more forgiving of his tanking the economy than about abandoning Novorossiya. For one thing he can probably blame an economic disaster on external forces, but there’s no way he dodges the blame if / when he pulls out of Ukraine.

128 Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2014 12:43:11am

Meanwhile, in Wississippi:

All GOP hopefuls in 6th District lean toward Obama impeachment

Town of Cedarburg — Each of four Republican candidates for the 6th Congressional District told residents Thursday that if elected in November, he would be inclined to vote to impeach President Barack Obama for any number of transgressions.

At a GOP candidates forum Thursday in Ozaukee County, each candidate said he would approve naming a special prosecutor to investigate specific scandals as a first step toward impeachment.

They held up both the IRS targeting of tea party-connected groups seeking nonprofit status and the NSA collecting of bulk telephone data and the magnitude of its everyday surveillance routine as examples of government overreach in the Obama administration.

“He should be impeached for so many things,” state Sen. Glenn Grothman (R-Campbellsport) told an audience of more than 100 residents at the forum inside the Hub at Cedar Creek in the Town of Cedarburg.

A chance the democrat will win?
Slim to none and slim left town.
District full of RWNJ.

129 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 12:46:57am

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

It’s an interesting position, but politically how realistic an option is this for Putin? It seems like he’s locked himself into symbiosis with a far-right, know nothing base that cares about little more than reclaiming past nationalist glory and hating the West out of shear jingoistic angst.

The economic leverage is certainly there. Russia was facing a poor economic outlook before the annexation of Crimea. Now they’re two rounds of sanctions deep, their credit rating has been cut to BBB-, one step away from junk bond status, then this absolutely colossal fuck up happens at probably the most inopportune time imaginable. However since continued and possibly drastically increased sanctions are basically a long term certainty now matter what he does now how far can he successfully back peddle while maintaining his base of support? Sooner or later the average Russian is going to feel the economic effects, but the dead enders might well be more forgiving of his tanking the economy than about abandoning Novorossiya. For one thing he can probably blame an economic disaster on external forces, but there’s no way he dodges the blame if / when he pulls out of Ukraine.

The Novorossiya folks and the Russian ultra-nationalists/imperialists would indeed be more forgiving of an economic disaster than they would be of Putin abandoning their aspirations. For them, that would be the ‘unforgivable sin’, and if they felt strongly enough about it, there’s even the possibility (though remote) that they could launch an insurrection against Putin in Russia itself.

Putin has foolishly put himself - and the Russian government - between the proverbial ‘rock and a hard place’. And ultimately, he has no one to blame but himself.

130 goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2014 12:50:12am

Assuming the Ukrainian phone intercepts are accurate it’s really kind of surprising that the rebel’s communications protocols are so lax. This isn’t the first time these kinds of recordings have surfaced either. It’s like these guys are running an insurgency on a civilian cell network, with no mind at all towards military grade encryption, which I’m sure Russia has.

Maybe Russia didn’t want their radio tech to fall into the wrong hands in such a soft and nebulous environment. There are other reports as well that the Russian forces seen in Ukraine are operating in a very unprofessional manner, with the report by the crash investigators today that some of the rebel militia appeared to be drunk.

DONETSK, Ukraine—When international observers arrived for the first time at the Flight 17 crash site outside this separatist-held capital on Friday afternoon, they found what they described as a field of already decomposing body parts and debris, lacking a secure cordon or any discernible on-site management. It was guarded by armed irregulars, some of whom the observers accused of being drunk.

So who knows? Maybe the lax attitude towards communication security just goes part and parcel with the overall ramshackle nature of using militia forces to avoid the label of a hot war in the media, and the general absence of actual military discipline that goes with it … you get what you pay for. The entire ratfucking strategy of sending irregulars and volunteers in without insignia always did seem too clever by half, and was probably bound to blow up in Putin’s face sooner or later.

131 Teukka  Jul 19, 2014 1:04:33am

re: #71 Stanley Sea

When they attack Baptists.

Talibangilists.

Y’all Qaeda. Tealiban.

132 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 1:08:36am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

Sure. What needs to be understood is that it’s not the Russian army fighting there. It’s a colorful mix of local insurgents and volunteers from Russia, some with military training, some without. They’re led by people, some of whom are Russian citizens (former military, GRU, etc. - with emphasis on “former”), some are locals. All of them, without doubt, have handlers on the Russian side. Sometimes from different agencies (which has been suggested as a source of certain conflicts between the factions). So Russia is responsible. And it does sponsor them, also by providing weapons (now more than a few weeks before). But that’s that. It’s still not a real army in the fullest sense, rather, something that has been glued together in a very short time period.

133 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 1:13:16am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

I’m reading at various places that the idea is floating around of designating the ‘Donetsk People’s Republic’ (DNR) a terrorist organization; that could have a grave consequence, namely, the US State Department putting Russia itself on its list of ‘State Sponsors of Terrorism’, which is not where a country wants to find itself for an entire host of reasons, most of them economic.

Russia is already teetering on the brink of a recession; putting them on the ‘State Sponsors’ list would certainly push them over the edge. They could look forward to essentially being frozen out of international credit markets, aside from China, but frankly - and I believe it was yourself who pointed it out - the lending terms of China are probably only slightly more desirable than borrowing money from a loan shark hanging out on Ilyinka Street near Red Square.

But certainly, designating the DNR as a terrorist organization needs to be done; simply because it is precisely what they are.

134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 1:19:34am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

Last time I checked, the Saudis feel fine./

135 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 1:22:52am

re: #134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Last time I checked, the Saudis feel fine./

Fair enough, and in my opinion, yes….the Saudis are state sponsors of terrorism. Perhaps they’re just a bit more, shall we say….. discreet about it.

136 Amory Blaine  Jul 19, 2014 1:23:21am

Rebel Leader: Malaysia Plane Filled with Already Dead Bodies

MOSCOW (AP) — A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off.

The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 1:25:10am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough, and in my opinion, yes….the Saudis are state sponsors of terrorism. Perhaps they’re just a bit more, shall we say….. discreet about it.

Or, rather, when you’re friends with the very people, who decide who goes into the list… you won’t be in the list.

138 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 1:26:43am

re: #136 Amory Blaine

That certainly sounds hopelessly insane and laughable on its face, but sure enough, there’s plenty of conspiracy theorists out there who’ll buy it. The Alex Jones crowd and their Russian equivalents, to name some examples.

139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 1:27:00am

re: #136 Amory Blaine

On the way to Oklahoma, his split became complete
Reality had faded, his fantasy complete
The world he had constructed, from felines and despair
On the way to Oklahoma, became as clear as air

140 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 1:28:31am

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Or, rather, when you’re friends with the very people, who decide who goes into the list… you won’t be in the list.

Very true.

But I certainly think putting the DNR on the list of terrorist organizations is a necessary thing to do. They clearly are a terrorist organization, using violence in order to influence Ukraine’s internal politics.

141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 1:33:42am

142 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 1:46:57am

Dear Asshole Neighbors,

Thanks so much for setting off fireworks at 3:30 in the goddamn morning. No, really. I love being forcibly woken up by a series of explosions after a long week.

And hey, who needs sleep when you have a party going on? It’s not like anyone else lives on your street.

No love,
Me

143 goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2014 2:11:50am

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Or, rather, when you’re friends with the very people, who decide who goes into the list… you won’t be in the list.

Like the Nicaraguan Death Squads we sponsored in the 80’s. Or more recently the Sunni Awakening Councils we worked with during the Iraq “surge” that are now coordinating with ISIS. Bullshit proxy warfare shenanigans aren’t exactly something the US is historically above. I feel bad for this unfortunate phase that liberal Russians are having to live through, but it’s not like 2004 through 2008 weren’t massively cringe inducing years to live through here foreign policy wise.

144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 2:15:50am

The intercepts about BUK now have subs.

Youtube Video

145 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 2:27:19am

re: #144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The intercepts about BUK now have subs.

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Video

That’s pretty damning, and I’m being generous. It indicates overt Russian military assistance and directly implicates the Russians in the shootdown. If I understand that correctly, the BUK-M behind the shootdown was crewed by Russian military personnel.

Russia has ‘splainin to do, I’d say. Of course, they’ll try to blow it off or claim it’s all “fascist lies”, but that recording is a smoking gun that’s pretty damned hard to ignore.

146 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 2:29:27am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

Youtube Video

147 goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2014 2:38:14am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

If I understand that correctly, the BUK-M behind the shootdown was crewed by Russian military itself.

It had a crew, and ostensibly came from Russia. I wouldn’t read too much into the level of training the crew was given or assume they were active duty military. For one thing they apparently missed the fact they were shooting at a plane carrying a commercial, civilian transponder that showed no indication of landing inside Ukrainian territory. I don’t know jack shit about how BUK systems work, but it’d be a pretty glaring oversight for them not to be able to read and display civil aviation transponder codes. It’s not like that shit is designed to be at all cryptic or obscure.

Whoever was manning that battery was all clown shoes.

148 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 2:45:52am

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

It had a crew, and ostensibly came from Russia. I wouldn’t read too much into the level of training the crew was given or assume they were active duty military. For one thing they apparently missed the fact they were shooting at a plane carrying a commercial, civilian transponder that showed no indication of landing inside Ukrainian territory. I don’t know jack shit about how BUK systems work, but it’d be a pretty glaring oversight for them not to be able to read and display civil aviation transponder codes. It’s not like that shit is designed to be at all cryptic or obscure.

Whoever was manning that battery was all clown shoes.

I read that the BUK-M typically travels along with a ‘spotter’ vehicle and a command vehicle; apparently, the purpose of the ‘spotter’ and the command vehicle is to determine the type of aircraft being targeted. In this case, as it’s being noted, it seems this particular BUK-M battery didn’t have either of the support vehicles along with it; it was just the missile battery itself. If that was the case, then the BUK-M battery was basically firing blind, not knowing exactly what they were shooting at, just knowing “Hey….there’s a plane up there. Shoot it down.”

A standard Buk battalion consists of a command vehicle, target acquisition radar (TAR) vehicle, six transporter erector launcher and radar (TELAR) vehicles and three transporter erector launcher (TEL) vehicles. A Buk missile battery consists of two TELAR and one TEL vehicle. The battery requires no more than 5 minutes to set up before it is ready for engagement and can be ready for transit again in 5 minutes. The reaction time of the battery from target tracking to missile launch is around 22 seconds.

That is a staggering level of incompetence, not to mention sheer stupidity.

149 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 3:02:19am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

And I’ll add this from Jane’s Defence Weekly:

When fielded, a Buk firing battery consists of:

- the 9S18M1Target Acquisition Radar used to acquire potential aerial targets and transmit their position and tracks;

- the 9S470M1 Command Post (CP) vehicle (contains the missile battery’s data display and control system; digital fire-control computer, which assigns targets to individual launchers; and computes the engagement); and

- one or more 9A310M1S launchers each armed with four radar-guided missiles.

All three of these systems are vehicle-mounted.

In a normal engagement, all three would operate as an integrated weapon system and crew of the CP vehicle are likely to have a good idea of the local air activity.

However, a Buk launcher can also operate in stand-alone mode. Its built-in radar is normally used to track the target being engaged, but can be operated in a target-detection mode, allowing it to autonomously engage targets that were present in the radar’s forward field of view.

Although it has its own identification friend or foe system, this is only able to establish whether the target being tracked is a friendly aircraft. It is the electronic equivalent of a sentry calling out: “Who goes there?”. If there is no reply, all you know is that it is not one of your own combat aircraft. It would not give you a warning that you were tracking an airliner.

Operating Buk hardware would require a trained crew; with personnel who are currently trained operators or who learned how to operate the hardware while serving as conscripts.

janes.com

150 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 3:04:01am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

In this case, as it’s being noted, it seems this particular BUK-M battery didn’t have either of the support vehicles along with it; it was just the missile battery itself.

We don’t know that.

151 Teukka  Jul 19, 2014 3:05:23am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

I read that the BUK-M typically travels along with a ‘spotter’ vehicle and a command vehicle; apparently, the purpose of the ‘spotter’ and the command vehicle is to determine the type of aircraft being targeted. In this case, as it’s being noted, it seems this particular BUK-M battery didn’t have either of the support vehicles along with it; it was just the missile battery itself. If that was the case, then the BUK-M battery was basically firing blind, not knowing exactly what they were shooting at, just knowing “Hey….there’s a plane up there. Shoot it down.”

That is a staggering level of incompetence, not to mention sheer stupidity.

And a staggering level of cheapness and incompetence. For $35, you can buy a radio receiver dongle for USB. A laptop with free software available on the internet will allow you to receive the ADS-B beacon of (especially) civilian aircraft, location, callsign and flight # (civilian aircraft transmit updates every 0.5 seconds (sic(!))).

And for $50-ish more, you can get a Raspberry Pi which can connect to just about any computer monitor or TV for display, and using the radio receiver dongle and software, get the same ADS-B information.

Staggering stupidity, cheapness and incompetence does not even begin to cover it.

Anyone here willing to contact media and inform them of how cheap a solution which would’ve prevented the rebels from shooting down a civilian aircraft, available to both the rebels and their russian backers, do it. I am so fucking pissed off right now.

Link to Software:
http://www.satsignal.eu/raspberry-pi/dump1090.html

The receiver is a standard DVB-T USB dongle, and it ain’t rocket science to make your own high-performance 1090 MHz antenna. And there are designs on the internet on how to do a receiver from scratch.

152 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 3:05:49am

re: #150 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

We don’t know that.

That’s true; we don’t know that. Hopefully, we will know that, but that would require Russian cooperation, and I think the odds of that are looking pretty slim.

153 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 3:14:18am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

My point is, at this point it’s probably not useful to speculate about this particular issue since we just have no data. We have no idea or indication of whether the Buk was complete or not. It’s clear neither from the intercepts (which don’t discuss this issue), nor from various photos. Maybe they fired blindly, or maybe they didn’t know how to correctly interpret the data. The result is the same.

154 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 3:24:38am

re: #153 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

My point is, at this point it’s probably not useful to speculate about this particular issue since we just have no data. We have no idea or indication of whether the Buk was complete or not. It’s clear neither from the intercepts (which don’t discuss this issue), nor from various photos. Maybe they fired blindly, or maybe they didn’t know how to correctly interpret the data. The result is the same.

Yep, in the end the result is the same.

For me the bigger question is what is actually Russian military personnel who did the deed or what is the Novorossiya separatists?

Putin is certainly in a quandry in any event; times like this make me quite happy I’m not a leader of a country anywhere on the planet.

Well, unless it could be one of those countries where absolutely nothing happens and my Presidential duties could consist of watching sunsets and having merry conversation with people. I’m not entirely sure if such a place exists, but if it does, I wanna be its President. :D

155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 3:28:05am

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

Acc. to the older intercepts, it might have been certain “Cossacks”. I can imagine the Russian crew being temporarily absent and these Cossack clowns thinking, “Hey, let’s try this thing out. Hold my vodka and watch this…”

156 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 3:53:32am
157 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 4:10:59am

Why They Were on Flight MH17
thestar.com.my

Features some of the crew. a Catholic nun, young couples, some with babies, an entire family coming home from Kazakhstan, Muslims coming home for Hari Raya, and two men involved with AIDS organizations.

Reports that there were a hundred people on board heading to an international AIDS conference in Australia have turned out to be wrong. There were only six, apparently.

Cargo included 100 kg of medical supplies and 1,450 kg of lithium batteries.

Besides the medical supplies and batteries, pets - including two dogs, five birds and four pigeons - as well as 215kg of fresh cut flowers, textiles, helicopter and aircraft parts and diplomatic mail were also part of the cargo.

thestar.com.my

There have been reports of looting at the crash site from passengers’ baggage.

Malaysian armed forces have sent a 15-member medical team to Kiev to aassist the airline’s own MH17 Post-tragedy Investigation and Management Team. Two C-30s have also been sent to Kiev for support.

The airline’s 131-member team includes police forensic specialists and medical experts. thestar.com.my

158 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 4:14:17am

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Acc. to the older intercepts, it might have been certain “Cossacks”. I can imagine the Russian crew being temporarily absent and these Cossack clowns thinking, “Hey, let’s try this thing out. Hold my vodka and watch this…”

Does ‘Grumpy’ and his comrades have any idea of how bad this is making them look? Or do they simply not give a single, solitary f**k?

159 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 4:18:18am

Malaysian Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai is also on his way to Kiev to ensure his country’s investigators have access to the crash site.
thestar.com.my

With this many Malaysian citizens, military people and a cabinet minister in Kiev, it’s going to look really bad if the rebels prevent them from reaching the site.

160 ericblair  Jul 19, 2014 4:28:07am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Does ‘Grumpy’ and his comrades have any idea of how bad this is making them look? Or do they simply not give a single, solitary f**k?

From all I’ve seen, these people are thugs and extremists who are way out of their depth in this. The senior leaders like Strelkov should have more diplomatic skills but seem to be as crazy as the rest of them. They don’t know how to clean up for the camera and they’re just used to waving guns at people to get their way. Now they’re in a high visibility international crisis and are going to keep stepping on their dicks in front of everyone.

I don’t doubt Putin is sick of covering for these amateurs, but I don’t think he could pull out now even if he wanted to considering the propaganda shitstorm he’s created.

161 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 4:32:29am

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi

Malaysian Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai is also on his way to Kiev to ensure his country’s investigators have access to the crash site.
thestar.com.my

With this many Malaysian citizens, military people and a cabinet minister in Kiev, it’s going to look really bad if the rebels prevent them from reaching the site.

I doubt the separatists care how it looks.

162 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 4:33:27am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Does ‘Grumpy’ and his comrades have any idea of how bad this is making them look? Or do they simply not give a single, solitary f**k?

This is what the Teahadi would be like if they formed a real militia …

163 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 4:35:02am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

I doubt the separatists care how it looks.

True, but people in the EU and elsewhere are going to wonder and draw conclusions why the Malaysians would be kept away. It’s their airplane, after all.

164 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 4:38:45am

re: #163 wheat-dogghazi

True, but people in the EU and elsewhere are going to wonder and draw conclusions why the Malaysians would be kept away. It’s their airplane, after all.

I’d say so.

It’ll be interesting to see how things progress here in the EU. The Netherlands is epically pissed off about this, and they’d been more-or-less cozy with the Russians up until this incident. They are likely to be leading the charge to impose further and more dramatic sanctions against Russia. The key is Angela Merkel of Germany; if she can be persuaded to impose further sanctions against Russia, the rest of the EU will most likely go along with it.

165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 4:47:01am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

I’d say so.

It’ll be interesting to see how things progress here in the EU. The Netherlands is epically pissed off about this, and they’d been more-or-less cozy with the Russians up until this incident. They are likely to be leading the charge to impose further and more dramatic sanctions against Russia. The key is Angela Merkel of Germany; if she can be persuaded to impose further sanctions against Russia, the rest of the EU will most likely go along with it.

Yeah, good luck with that.

166 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 4:48:24am

re: #165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yeah, good luck with that.

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I wouldn’t entirely count it out; I’m pretty sure she’s under a good deal of pressure to show some backbone regarding this situation and stop looking like Putin’s lapdog.

167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 4:58:04am

Some are having second thoughts. A guy from Snezhnoye:

“Fuck, we’ve we’ve gone too far with the war game… I hate myself…

[…]

Tanya, I personally saw the missile launch and then rejoiced that the Ukrs had been hit… I repent before God…”

168 ericblair  Jul 19, 2014 4:59:28am

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

I wouldn’t entirely count it out; I’m pretty sure she’s under a good deal of pressure to show some backbone regarding this situation and stop looking like Putin’s lapdog.

I seriously doubt Merkel personally likes Putin at all. Merkel is afraid of dogs, and Putin famously brought his dogs into meetings with her to fuck with her head. He really is an asshole.

Germany shut down its nuke plants without a real plan to replace the capacity, and is now stuck buying a lot of carbon fuels from Russia. That’s a pretty good reason for their ass-dragging.

169 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 5:19:10am

Soon, I hope.

170 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 5:32:01am

re: #168 ericblair

Yeah, that decision to shut down Germany’s nuclear plants without something to replace them wasn’t a good idea.

Properly, they should have phased it out over a 25 or 35-year period or whatnot, so that replacement power sources could be found and infrastructure built.

171 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 5:42:55am

re: #83 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Just don’t go to any hash houses that have the word “EAT” spelled out in light bulbs.

Belated Gahan Wilson upding.

172 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 5:43:08am

Ah. Beer:30… ;)

173 ericblair  Jul 19, 2014 5:45:02am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

Properly, they should have phased it out over a 25 or 35-year period or whatnot, so that replacement power sources could be found and infrastructure built.

I remember an interview with a Green activist a couple of years ago when they were pushing to get the nukes shut down. Her goal was to get them shut down immediately, so that the German people would have to address the energy issue, presumably carefully and sustainably, and not kick it down the road again.

Of course, they addressed it in the most panicked, short-sighted way possible, which should have been absolutely no surprise to anyone who has ever dealt with human beings before, but there you go.

174 Flounder  Jul 19, 2014 5:45:47am

I don’t know what was worse, that video, or me laughing so loudly that I woke up the wife. I better start making some chocolate chip waffles.

175 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 5:46:40am

re: #173 ericblair

I remember an interview with a Green activist a couple of years ago when they were pushing to get the nukes shut down. Her goal was to get them shut down immediately, so that the German people would have to address the energy issue, presumably carefully and sustainably, and not kick it down the road again.

Of course, they addressed it in the most panicked, short-sighted way possible, which should have been absolutely no surprise to anyone who has ever dealt with human beings before, but there you go.

And never mind that Nuke remains the best currently available power source for large groups of humans…

177 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 6:19:23am

re: #167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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Some are having second thoughts. A guy from Snezhnoye:

“Fuck, we’ve we’ve gone too far with the war game… I hate myself…

[…]

Tanya, I personally saw the missile launch and then rejoiced that the Ukrs had been hit… I repent before God…”

Well, no shit, Sherlock. I think that some of these people are realizing just how deep they’ve stepped in it - lots of people tend to be very unhappy when you blow up a civilian airliner full of people completely unrelated to your cause.

Morning Lizardim.

178 PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2014 6:26:56am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

They are trying to cover up the incident by saying that the rebels are taking the evidence. At least that is what The Wall Street Journal has as the lead story. online.wsj.com

179 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 6:39:43am

re: #178 PhillyPretzel

They are trying to cover up the incident by saying that the rebels are taking the evidence. At least that is what The Wall Street Journal has as the lead story. online.wsj.com

Not entirely unexpected. Let’s face it - who wants to get caught red-handed shooting an anti-aircraft missile at an unassuming (and unaware) 777?

180 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:13:36am
Water, when exposed to the words “Hitler” and “Satan” changes its physical properties.
181 Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2014 7:15:03am

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

Somehow I knew Dr. Oz was going to be on that list.

182 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:18:37am

re: #181 Timothy Watson

Somehow I knew Dr. Oz was going to be on that list.

Yeah, just posted a Page with the article. I chose an excerpt about Oz to use.

183 Jay in Oregon  Jul 19, 2014 7:23:03am

re: #131 Teukka

Y’all Qaeda.

Oh, I am so stealing that. There was also this:

184 PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2014 7:23:24am

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

21st Century snake oil and a Ponzi scheme too. wow what a bargain. ///

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 7:25:21am

re: #183 Jay in Oregon

Oh, I am so stealing that. There was also this:

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I do prefer “Teahadi” but that is accurate if a mouthful.

186 Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2014 7:26:34am

re: #182 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, just posted a Page with the article. I chose an excerpt about Oz to use.

I remember watching the program as background noise one day while doing something else, and they had some segment on there about “the fruits your ancestor used to eat and that’s why they were so much healthier”.

My ancestors were probably more concerned about having enough grain, potatoes, and meat so they didn’t starve to worry about fruits.

Not to mention, is he so stupid that he thinks that peasants and serfs were rolling in fruits like cantaloupes (IIRC, that was one of the ones he showcased)?

187 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2014 7:26:54am

re: #19 RealityBasedSteve

I feel like such a slacker, haven’t really gone out and made any pictures. The worst part, I’m picking up my new (to me at least) olympus mirrorless camera bodies / lens and underwater housing tomorrow, it’s sitting behind the desk back at the center, haven’t been in this week.

Need to do some studies of the architecture in downtown Nashville. Maybe a good project for me once I get SQL installed in 16 machines.

Go to Hattie B’s for hot fried chicken, a Nashville special cuisine. If a masochist, get What the Cluck.

188 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:28:39am

Excellent Post by Kerfluffer. Well worth a discussion among Lizards.

Mostly, I’d like to know what tactics men and women can use to stop the Assholes when such conversational bullying occurrs.

Please give updings where updings are due.

189 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 7:29:32am

Way OT but fun.

Saw this Cracked article by the Lizards fav astronauty, Chris Hatfield:
cracked.com

Which reminded me of this delightful filk:

Youtube Video

Hopefully you all will enjoy these two bits as much as I have.

190 Jay in Oregon  Jul 19, 2014 7:29:49am

re: #162 William Barnett-Lewis

This is what the Teahadi would be like if they formed a real militia …

This stuff with Ukrainian rebels blocking access to the wreckage and the shenanigans with the Bundy Ranch militia thugs setting up their own checkpoints and checking IDs (FREEDOM!) should give people a really good idea what life in the New Confederacy would be like. All of the liberty you can hold on to with your cache of guns.

191 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 7:33:07am

re: #188 FemNaziBitch

Excellent Post by Kerfluffer. Well worth a discussion among Lizards.

Mostly, I’d like to know what tactics men and women can use to stop the Assholes when such conversational bullying occurrs.

Please give updings where updings are due.

Harsh as this treatment is, at least the current administration put her in the place to fight against this. She’s getting shit from the master shit slingers but our current president had enough faith in her to put her out there to fight that specific battle. That is no small thing either.

192 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 7:35:35am

Proving once again, that hockey players are the craziest AND toughest of all that play sports!!

deadspin.com

Tyler Seguin Let Someone Drive A Golf Ball Off His Crotch

193 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:38:49am

Interesting:

Oklahoma’s Same Sex Marriage Ban Overturned: Learning American Civics the Hard Way

When federal judges overturned the same-sex marriage ban in Oklahoma, the state’s governor was fighting mad. She claimed that the judges had “trampled” on states rights. Perhaps Fallin needs to remember this isn’t Russia.

The American system isn’t based on mob rule. -

194 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:39:33am

re: #191 William Barnett-Lewis

Harsh as this treatment is, at least the current administration put her in the place to fight against this. She’s getting shit from the master shit slingers but our current president had enough faith in her to put her out there to fight that specific battle. That is no small thing either.

Did you see the 2nd link Kerfluffer posted?

195 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:40:43am
196 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:41:12am
197 PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2014 7:42:45am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

that is cute. lol

199 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 7:48:46am

re: #198 Killgore Trout

Hamas Attacks Israeli Soldiers with Explosive Donkey

What an ass!!!

200 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 7:48:52am

re: #194 FemNaziBitch

Did you see the 2nd link Kerfluffer posted?

Apparently not. Let me go look.

201 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 7:51:08am

re: #198 Killgore Trout

Hamas Attacks Israeli Soldiers with Explosive Donkey

Shrek was unavailable for comment.

202 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 7:51:10am
203 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:51:44am
204 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 7:52:19am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

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and snakes,, don’t forget about the snakes

205 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 7:54:13am

Yeah,,,,, NO!!!

Twelve bodies found in Massachusetts storage unit, prosecutors say

news.yahoo.com

Police late Thursday recovered 12 human bodies from a storage unit in Weymouth, Massachusetts, about 13 miles (20 km) southeast of Boston, Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel Conley said.

That came a day after police found cremated remains in a storage unit rented by the man in Somerville, just north of Boston.

LUCY ,,,, YOU GOT SOME ‘SPLAININ TO DOOO!!!!

206 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 7:55:10am

List of Passengers --NYT

207 PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2014 7:55:41am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those cats have the run of his place. It is a one heck of a cat house. The meow type. encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com

208 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 7:58:41am

LOL. Kurginyan now hypothesizes that Strelkov might have wanted to shoot down Putin’s plane to eventually take his place (and downed MH17 by mistake).

eot.su

209 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:00:26am
210 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:04:32am

re: #208 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

LOL. Kurginyan now hypothesizes that Strelkov might have wanted to shoot down Putin’s plane to eventually take his place.

eot.su

Who is this Mr. Kurginyan?

211 Jay in Oregon  Jul 19, 2014 8:04:41am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

Rebel Leader: Malaysia Plane Filled with Already Dead Bodies

Holy shit, Alex Jones has nothing on this guy. #falseflag

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 8:05:41am
213 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:06:14am

re: #209 FemNaziBitch

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Oh,, I LOVE Kegels!!!! Especially right out of the oven!!!

no,,, wait,,, thats KUGELS

Nevahmind

google.com

214 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:06:48am

re: #211 Jay in Oregon

Holy shit, Alex Jones has nothing on this guy. #falseflag

Alex Jones is probably taking lessons from him.

215 PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2014 8:07:29am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

It looks like something Van Gogh would have painted. Very peaceful.

216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 8:08:08am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

It looks like something Van Gogh would have painted. Very peaceful.

Agree. I thought Van Gogh before I read the caption.

217 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:08:13am

You know, when white women can’t get justice, it can’t be good for WOC.
UConn to Pay $1.3 Million to End Suit on Rape Cases

218 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:08:46am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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too much micro-detail for Van Gogh.

219 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:10:06am
220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 8:11:33am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

Corpses? What if they were ZOMBIES? It would be recklessly irresponsible not to speculate!!!

221 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 8:14:23am

re: #199 sattv4u2

What an ass!!!

Strongly worded letter from PETA on its way

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 8:15:48am
223 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:16:44am

Why women are far more likely to vote than men

They don’t work and have the time during day—they can vote on their way to the store to buy more bon bons

224 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 8:17:38am

KTVK-TV reported on Tuesday that Riggs, along with the militia members, attended a demonstration opposing the prospective placement of about 40 immigrant children at a facility near Oracle, Arizona.

“The idea that these minors would be placed in Arizona, where they, presumably, would have to be quarantined for public health reasons, I think, is a huge challenge, Riggs said at the time, using a conservative talking point that has been debunked by medical professionals.

225 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 19, 2014 8:17:43am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Evidence left in the hands of the offenders is just not going to ever be seen by investigators. The case for who did this is going to rest on radar data and intelligence gathering rather than evidence on the shattered ground.

226 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:17:46am

need moar coffee

228 Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2014 8:20:13am

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

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Not buying it? Well … you see …. it crashed in this cemetery and that is why there are so many bodies. Still no? Ahhhh … lemme think …

229 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 8:21:11am

re: #219 FemNaziBitch

How the fuck is it Obama’s fault that some trigger happy asshole shot down a plane? WTF.

230 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:22:11am

Open Carry Advocate Wants To Fight Police Brutality By Threatening Cops With Guns

I don’t think this is going to turn out well.

231 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 8:23:13am

re: #221 Killgore Trout

Hmm. Post “dead-horse.gif” yet again, ignore him or make smarmy comment about ignorance of the issue he’s pretending to comment about? I’ll chose comment, Alex.

Grow up, KT.

232 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:23:58am

re: #224 Lidane

I swear, these people have some kind of apocalyptic SF movie playing in their heads, like the children are carrying ebola or the Spanish flu.

Fear. That’s all it is. Abject fear. Of children.

233 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 19, 2014 8:24:45am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Open Carry Advocate Wants To Fight Police Brutality By Threatening Cops With Guns

I don’t think this is going to turn out well.

Ooh. I’m a big pro-gun gut. Nut level even. I still want to watch this idiot get hammered into the ground…

234 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:24:57am

re: #227 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

A very … interesting person.

en.wikipedia.org

web.archive.org
zavtra.ru
eng.kremlin.ru

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Yeah…….interesting.

And interesting that he’s trying to throw Girkin under the bus by accusing him of trying to bump off Putin.

235 Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2014 8:25:11am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Open Carry Advocate Wants To Fight Police Brutality By Threatening Cops With Guns

I don’t think this is going to turn out well.

Replace sporadic police brutality with armed mob brutality? Tell me more.

236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 8:25:35am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Open Carry Advocate Wants To Fight Police Brutality By Threatening Cops With Guns

I don’t think this is going to turn out well.

This is light fighting hijackers by arming passengers…

237 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:26:01am

re: #229 Lidane

How the fuck is it Obama’s fault that some trigger happy asshole shot down a plane? WTF.

He’s like Dr Xavier with his special room that enables him to see everyone’s mind. But, even presidents have to pee sometime. So, while he was in the head …

238 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 8:27:45am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Open Carry Advocate Wants To Fight Police Brutality By Threatening Cops With Guns

I don’t think this is going to turn out well.

Future Darwin Award winner.

239 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:28:07am

Casey Kasem’s body is missing?

240 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:29:03am

re: #232 wheat-dogghazi

I swear, these people have some kind of apocalyptic SF movie playing in their heads, like the children are carrying ebola or the Spanish flu.

Fear. That’s all it is. Abject fear. Of children.

There was a post a while back explaining that these children are probably better vaccinated than US children. Their public health laws are such that the parents don’t have the choice not to vaccinate.

241 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:29:06am

re: #238 Lidane

Future Darwin Award winner.

Death by Cop.

242 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:29:33am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This is light fighting hijackers by arming passengers…

There are people that would advocate for that.

243 Teukka  Jul 19, 2014 8:29:57am

re: #241 wheat-dogghazi

Death by Cop.

<sarc>”Acute Lead Poisioning”</sarc>

244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 8:30:55am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

He’s been anti-Strelkov pretty much the whole time, so now n-ps think he’s a traitor. But as you can see, he’s not without influence. BTW watch the mouth in the last video starting from 00:50.

245 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:31:19am

re: #238 Lidane

Future Darwin Award winner.

Yeah, I expect we’ll be reading a headline along the lines of “Trevor Lyman, open-carry activist and blogger, gunned down by police after he made threatening comments while armed” in the not-too-distant future.

246 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:32:41am

re: #240 FemNaziBitch

There was a post a while back explaining that these children are probably better vaccinated than US children. Their public health laws are such that the parents don’t have the choice not to vaccinate.

Yup. I think the vaccination rates are in the 90 percent range for all of Central America. The doctors working with the new arrivals say the kids are in pretty good health, all things considered. Any illnesses they have are temporary and will be treated in the arrival facilities, and the kids will be just fine by the time they are released.

Like I said earlier, most Americans face greater risk getting seriously ill by visiting someone in the hospital.

247 ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2014 8:33:39am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

You know, when white women can’t get justice, it can’t be good for WOC.
UConn to Pay $1.3 Million to End Suit on Rape Cases

I sure as hell hope the female officer that made the peanut butter reference was kicked off the campus cop squad. The whole story is depressing…but a female officer making a crack like that is way out of line. Wouldn’t surprise me if the whole police staff needs a good going-over. Sounds like a ‘culture’ issue. I hope the college can get their shit together, they only seem to be about 100 years behind.

248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 8:33:43am

re: #242 FemNaziBitch

There are people that would advocate for that.

you mean these folks?

249 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:34:04am

re: #244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He’s been anti-Strelkov pretty much the whole time, so now n-ps think he’s a traitor. But as you can see, he’s not without influence. BTW watch the mouth in the last video starting from 00:50.

Oh, shit. Literally, spittle-flecked, foaming-at-the-mouth rhetoric.

Just damn.

250 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:34:14am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I expect we’ll be reading a headline along the lines of “Trevor Lyman, open-carry activist and blogger, gunned down by police after he made threatening comments while armed” in the not-too-distant future.

“Sir, put down your weapon! Put down your weapon, or we will be forced to shoot you”

251 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:34:54am

re: #250 wheat-dogghazi

“Sir, put down your weapon! Put down your weapon, or we will be forced to shoot you”

Oh….the last words Trevor Lyman ever hears.

252 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 8:35:18am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Yes. Nowadays “Kurginyan’s foam parties” is a meme.

253 Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2014 8:35:19am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi

[snip]

Like I said earlier, most Americans face greater risk getting seriously ill by visiting someone in the hospital.

Or a middle school cafeteria at lunch time.

254 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:35:52am

re: #252 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yes. Nowadays “Kurginyan’s foam parties” is a meme.

lolol

255 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 8:36:42am
256 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:37:10am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. In cases like that, the police would take the necessary steps. Officers involved would get a few days off active duty, there’d be an administrative investigation, and then the officers would be back on the streets.

Trevor would get a nice long rest.

257 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:38:21am

re: #253 Eventual Carrion

Elementary school is the place to go to get sick. Though, I knew of some middle schools with higher than normal STD rates.

258 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 8:38:57am

His Divine Shadow

259 Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2014 8:39:24am

re: #255 Lidane

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Tories were conservatives last I checked, so how does historical tea party = conservatism work for them?

260 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:39:34am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah. In cases like that, the police would take the necessary steps. Officers involved would get a few days off active duty, there’d be an administrative investigation, and then the officers would be back on the streets.

Trevor would get a nice long rest.

Yes, indeed. And that’s how it would most likely end, because when instructed to put down his weapon, Mr. Lyman would refuse to comply.

And then, as you said, he gets a nice long rest.

261 ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2014 8:40:30am

re: #232 wheat-dogghazi

I swear, these people have some kind of apocalyptic SF movie playing in their heads, like the children are carrying ebola or the Spanish flu.

Fear. That’s all it is. Abject fear. Of children.

Do you really think it is fear? I guess I don’t.

I think if there is any fear involved, the idiots making these stands against immigrants fear they will be seen as hateful bigots and only use the fear of disease as an excuse to be, well…hateful bigots.

262 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:41:41am

Ahhhhhhh

cleveland.cbslocal.com

105-Year-Old Woman To Become Oldest Person To Throw Out First Pitch At MLB Game
A former Cleveland resident will make history when she throws out the ceremonial first pitch at PETCO Park Sunday when the San Diego Padres host the New York
After the game, both teams offer her a contract for the rest of the season!!//

263 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 8:41:45am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah. In cases like that, the police would take the necessary steps. Officers involved would get a few days off active duty, there’d be an administrative investigation, and then the officers would be back on the streets.

Trevor would get a nice long rest.

Or, unfortunately, become a martyr to the cause…why can’t free citizens exercise their 2nd Amendment right without police terror?

264 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:43:26am

re: #261 ObserverArt

Do you really think it is fear? I guess I don’t.

I think if there is any fear involved, the idiots making these stands against immigrants fear they will be seen as hateful bigots and only use the fear of disease as an excuse to be, well…hateful bigots.

Not fear of disease. Fear of non-WASPy kids coming to overwhelm White America™.

265 Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2014 8:43:29am

re: #258 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

His Divine Shadow

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But I cast no reflection in the mirror.

266 KiTA  Jul 19, 2014 8:44:04am

re: #229 Lidane

How the fuck is it Obama’s fault that some trigger happy asshole shot down a plane? WTF.

The argument seems to be that Obama is just so weak that the “bad guys (tm)” feel free to do things that they wouldn’t if real manly men like Mittens or McCain were in charge.

It’s upper tripe but matches the “Obama wears mom jeans” meme they’ve been pushing lately. Which in itself is a transparent attempt to get him to support military action that they will profit from.

267 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:44:21am

re: #262 sattv4u2

Ahhhhhhh

cleveland.cbslocal.com

105-Year-Old Woman To Become Oldest Person To Throw Out First Pitch At MLB Game
A former Cleveland resident will make history when she throws out the ceremonial first pitch at PETCO Park Sunday when the San Diego Padres host the New York
After the game, both teams offer her a contract for the rest of the season!!//

I wonder how good her fast ball is.

268 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:44:32am

Just lovely

269 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:45:12am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi

I wonder how good her fast ball is.

Better than half the staffs of either team,, AND ,, if she’s a lefty,, MORE teams will bid///

270 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 8:45:15am

re: #258 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

271 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:46:02am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

That’s offensive on many different levels. Fox News has outdone themselves.

272 Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2014 8:46:03am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi

I wonder how good her fast ball is.

She has a mean breaker. Hip that is.

273 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:46:38am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi

Yup. I think the vaccination rates are in the 90 percent range for all of Central America. The doctors working with the new arrivals say the kids are in pretty good health, all things considered. Any illnesses they have are temporary and will be treated in the arrival facilities, and the kids will be just fine by the time they are released.

Like I said earlier, most Americans face greater risk getting seriously ill by visiting someone in the hospital.

I live in an area with an large hispanic population. The kids I know are extremely healthy and strong. Most of the brown kids I know are like that. It’s the white kids who have all the problems.

I still think white people are inbred.

274 Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2014 8:47:10am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

Just lovely

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Satire account (note the logo).

275 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 8:48:30am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

Just lovely

Has Israel considered giving Palestine reservations with casinos on them?

Fox comment is behind the times. During the (quiet) years we were there, the PA ran a casino at its capitol in Jericho. The Israelis were ‘officially’ prohibited from gambling there.

276 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:48:30am

re: #271 wheat-dogghazi

That’s offensive on many different levels. Fox News has outdone themselves.

NOT News

not

FOX News

277 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 8:49:54am

re: #276 sattv4u2

“Fake but accurate!”

278 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:50:00am

Speaking of such:

white and fundamentalist children will get sick and many will die. Immigrant children will thrive.

Just imagine the derp.

:(

279 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:50:26am

re: #273 FemNaziBitch

Maybe. There’s also the anti-vax/alt-med mentality that seems more prevalent among white yuppie types than in other demographic groups.

And an alarming obsession with making everything bacteria-free — as if that were possible.

280 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:51:06am

re: #274 Timothy Watson

Satire account (note the logo).

Yes, I still think it’s offensive.

281 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 8:51:32am

re: #271 wheat-dogghazi

That’s offensive on many different levels. Fox News has outdone themselves.

It’s a parody account.

282 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 8:52:00am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

Just lovely

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Parody account

Willfully ignorant for the sake of our narratives. Seriously Satirical Soft-Hitting Journalism.

283 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 8:52:36am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a parody account.

I expect more accuracy from parody. Fox, not so much.

284 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 8:52:40am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a parody account.

OK, but I can still imagine someone at Fox News saying it.

285 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:52:50am

Jesus people are knocking on doors in my neighborhood.

I was making coffee …

286 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:53:22am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

Jesus people are knocking on doors in my neighborhood.

I was making coffee …

Maybe the smelled it. Do they have cups in their hands??

287 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:53:42am
288 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:54:10am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

re: #286 sattv4u2

Maybe the smelled it. Do they have cups in their hands??

(((dual purpose,,,, if they don’t get a collection, then maybe they’ll get coffee!!!))

289 Teukka  Jul 19, 2014 8:54:28am

re: #287 FemNaziBitch

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A Mongolian horde?

290 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 8:55:04am

re: #279 wheat-dogghazi

Maybe. There’s also the anti-vax/alt-med mentality that seems more prevalent among white yuppie types than in other demographic groups.

And an alarming obsession with making everything bacteria-free — as if that were possible.

Heh.

My ex-wife and I were talking about that back in the day on the subject of kids; she asked me, ‘You’re not one of those neurotic Americans who think children need to live in a sterile environment, are you?” to which I replied, “No.” She was quite relieved, as I recall.

291 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:56:14am

Legitimate Rape is an abbreviation

292 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 8:57:37am

This guy has some riding chops!!! (especially considering the type of bike he’s on),,, weight ,,,, power)

Youtube Video

293 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:57:52am

re: #291 FemNaziBitch

Legitimate Rape is an abbreviation

He really should quit while he is behind.

294 ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2014 8:58:06am

re: #264 wheat-dogghazi

Not fear of disease. Fear of non-WASPy kids coming to overwhelm White AmericaTM.

Most likely…so excuses just the same.

Maybe what the media needs is a wingnut interpreter. Sort of like Garret Morris doing the “News for the Hard of Hearing” on the original SNL shows.

When interviewed the wingnut can be saying “we fear the diseases” and over that the interpreter shouts “what they are saying is they fear the non-whites coming to America and being successful and lessening the power of WASP America.”

This shit is really pissing me off. Damn.

295 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 8:59:26am

re: #292 sattv4u2

This guy has some riding chops!!! (especially considering the type of bike he’s on),,, weight ,,,, power)

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Video

excellent!

296 Joanne  Jul 19, 2014 9:00:40am

re: #162 William Barnett-Lewis

This is what the Teahadi would be like if they formed a real militia …

That is terrifying. Truly terrifying. Jeebus.

297 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:01:32am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Most likely…so excuses just the same.

Maybe what the media needs is a wingnut interpreter. Sort of like Garret Morris doing the “News for the Hard of Hearing” on the original SNL shows.

When interviewed the wingnut can be saying “we fear the diseases” and over that the interpreter shouts “what they are saying is they fear the non-whites coming to America and being successful and lessening the power of WASP America.”

This shit is really pissing me off. Damn.

They have different germs than us

age-old xenophobia

298 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:03:18am

re: #290 Dr Lizardo

My mom kept our house tidy, but it was not sterile.

Humans are supposed to acquire natural immunity to the normal germs that co-exist with us. Trying to make everything “sterile” will only succeed in killing the weak germs and encouraging the stronger ones to survive.

Soap and water is usually all that’s needed to keep your kitchen and bathroom safe.

299 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:03:34am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Most likely…so excuses just the same.

Maybe what the media needs is a wingnut interpreter. Sort of like Garret Morris doing the “News for the Hard of Hearing” on the original SNL shows.

When interviewed the wingnut can be saying “we fear the diseases” and over that the interpreter shouts “what they are saying is they fear the non-whites coming to America and being successful and lessening the power of WASP America.”

This shit is really pissing me off. Damn.

That’s precisely what it is.

300 Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2014 9:04:59am

re: #287 FemNaziBitch

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Something that will truly make you sick

301 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:05:54am

re: #298 wheat-dogghazi

My mom kept our house tidy, but it was not sterile.

Humans are supposed to acquire natural immunity to the normal germs that co-exist with us. Trying to make everything “sterile” will only succeed in killing the weak germs and encouraging the stronger ones to survive.

Soap and water is usually all that’s needed to keep your kitchen and bathroom safe.

When I’d cut myself as a really little kid, my mom would wash the injury and treat it with rubbing alcohol, then put a bandage on it.

Simple as that. That’s really all that needs to be done. Hell, I’ve even done my own stitches before - I learned that from my dad.

302 ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2014 9:06:39am

Right now History channel is running their Viet Nam in HD series.

This is very depressing for me. Hell on earth.

I think people that are war hawks should be forced to watch this series for 72 hours straight with no sleep. Yeah, steep them in reality.

303 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 9:06:56am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Most likely…so excuses just the same.

When interviewed the wingnut can be saying “we fear the diseases” and over that the interpreter shouts “what they are saying is they fear the non-whites coming to America and being successful and lessening the power of WASP America by voting against a party that is consistently xenophobic and racist.”

304 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:07:29am

re: #294 ObserverArt

The RW echo chamber has them all believing there is an “invasion” of unwashed, diseased ill eagles from the South. They picture thousands of men, women and children charging across the Rio Grande to take away our way of life

305 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:10:07am

re: #304 wheat-dogghazi

The RW echo chamber has them all believing there is an “invasion” of unwashed, diseased ill eagles from the South. They picture thousands of men, women and children charging across the Rio Grande to take away our their white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant way of life

FTFY.

306 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:11:11am

Jennie Cook’s Zucchini Butter

picture:

307 Timothy Watson  Jul 19, 2014 9:11:40am

Anyone else find it funny that the only two things that the Republican Party has in common with its values at inception, the two being nativism and Protestant post-millennialism, are the worst of its founding values?

308 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:13:48am

re: #305 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, right.

One of my family members has this mentality. He’s not rabid anti-immigration, but he worries about all the “Mexicans” moving into his town and all the Spanish he sees and hears around him. He’s seriously afraid people will stop speaking English and he won’t be able to talk to anyone.

309 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:14:54am

re: #308 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, right.

One of my family members has this mentality. He’s not rabid anti-immigration, but he worries about all the “Mexicans” moving into his town and all the Spanish he sees and hears around him. He’s seriously afraid people will stop speaking English and he won’t be able to talk to anyone.

Perhaps you could suggest he learn Spanish?

310 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:14:55am

Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t

311 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 9:15:57am

re: #306 FemNaziBitch

Jennie Cook’s Zucchini Butter

picture:

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oooh…looks good and I have all the ingredients on hand.

312 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:16:31am
313 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:17:13am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

Perhaps you could suggest he learn Spanish?

Then he’ll become one of them!! 11ty!!
//

He’s not that bad, really. He just didn’t think too rationally sometimes. Fortunately, he doesn’t spend his time watching Fox News or I’d have to arrange an intervention.

314 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:18:04am
315 calochortus  Jul 19, 2014 9:18:06am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi

Yup. I think the vaccination rates are in the 90 percent range for all of Central America. The doctors working with the new arrivals say the kids are in pretty good health, all things considered. Any illnesses they have are temporary and will be treated in the arrival facilities, and the kids will be just fine by the time they are released.

Like I said earlier, most Americans face greater risk getting seriously ill by visiting someone in the hospital.

Just a drive-by, but my daughter is a pediatrician in the SF East Bay area and she says it’s the immigrant parents who are always checking up on whether their kids need vaccinations-and will practically take the hypodermic and do it themselves to be sure it gets done. After all, they’ve seen these diseases and want to keep their kids healthy.
The Caucasians and other long term residents are much more likely to worry about what the vaccines might do to their child, rather than worrying about the kid dying from something.

316 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:18:53am

re: #310 FemNaziBitch

Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t

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Fear of female sexuality is a very, very old theme. Probably goes back to the Neolithic Era - maybe even earlier.

I read somewhere that it came about with the rise of agriculture and permanent human settlements, which in turn ultimately lead to patriarchy.

317 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:20:07am

re: #312 FemNaziBitch

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heh,,old joke

Secret serviceman comes into the Oval Office and tells President Clinton

“There’s a snowbank out by the Rose Garden and in it in urine is the phrase ‘Bill is an asshole’. Analysis of the Urine says it’s Al Gores. The REALLY bad news is, it’s Hillarys handwriting”

318 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:20:29am

re: #315 calochortus

Just a drive-by, but my daughter is a pediatrician in the SF East Bay area and she says it’s the immigrant parents who are always checking up on whether their kids need vaccinations-and will practically take the hypodermic and do it themselves to be sure it gets done. After all, they’ve seen these diseases and want to keep their kids healthy.
The Caucasians and other long term residents are much more likely to worry about what the vaccines might do to their child, rather than worrying about the kid dying from something.

What a change…..when I was a kid in the 70s, I don’t recall parents being all worried about vaccinations and stuff. I had mine in due measure when I supposed to. No big deal.

319 ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2014 9:21:38am

re: #307 Timothy Watson

Anyone else find it funny that the only two things that the Republican Party has in common with its values at inception, the two being nativism and Protestant post-millennialism, are the worst of its founding values?

I don’t know if I’d use the word funny. But you are right.

A great example of what happens to an entity that can’t adapt and change.

Hmmm. Well, they do not believe in evolution…so I guess they will be going for a “Darwin” award. No more you.

Later LGFers…I see more wood stripping calling my name. Viet Nam War in the background…war on old white oak trim in my sights.

320 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:24:36am

re: #310 FemNaziBitch

Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t

Here’s anecdote from my high school teaching days. One of our female students had a “reputation,” as we used to say back in the day. Even the teachers knew. Being a fairly liberal school, her activity was tolerated.

One day, she came to school wearing tight jeans and in her back pocket was the clear outline of a packaged condom. It was a teacher who first caught sight of it, but she did nothing about it. But, later on the teacher expressed in the teacher’s break room how shocked she was that the girl was so open about her “availability.”

That same girl is now in her mid-40s, has a good career, has two or three kids, and has been happily married for at least 15 years.

321 calochortus  Jul 19, 2014 9:24:51am

re: #318 Dr Lizardo

I know, it’s weird. People just don’t think things through. There is a slight risk to vaccines, but the risk of not vaccinating is much greater, and if everyone who can be safely vaccinated, is vaccinated, then we’ll all be safer.

My kids were fully vaccinated-including with a few that weren’t available when I was young. I wouldn’t have minded missing measles, mumps and chicken pox…

322 calochortus  Jul 19, 2014 9:29:31am

Time to get my act together. Mr. Calochortus and I need to go clean out the tent. We had a great camping trip, but between the natural affinity of dirt for anything you take camping, and the fact it’s a dry year and pretty dusty, the tent has more than its usual complement of dirt. One more load of wash and a good tent cleaning and life will be back to normal.

323 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:30:24am

re: #320 wheat-dogghazi

Here’s anecdote from my high school teaching days. One of our female students had a “reputation,” as we used to say back in the day. Even the teachers knew. Being a fairly liberal school, her activity was tolerated.

One day, she came to school wearing tight jeans and in her back pocket was the clear outline of a packaged condom. It was a teacher who first caught sight of it, but she did nothing about it. But, later on the teacher expressed in the teacher’s break room how shocked she was that the girl was so open about her “availability.”

That same girl is now in her mid-40s, has a good career, has two or three kids, and has been happily married for at least 15 years.

Was the girl advertising her availability or her progressive opinions?

324 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 9:30:52am
325 Bear  Jul 19, 2014 9:31:36am

All this talk about vaccines. Yesterday I got a shingles shot per recommendation of the VA doctor. Guess many of us that were in the service at one time are so used to shots that we just automatically line up for them. Only one that I recall giving me a problem was the small pox which itched for a while.

326 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 9:32:29am

re: #310 FemNaziBitch

Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t

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As long as people still insist on linking morality to sexuality and sexual preferences (insisting that i.e. anything other than heterosexual abstinence-until-marriage sex is immoral) then we are never going to get anywhere in the discussion.

327 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:32:51am

re: #321 calochortus

I know, it’s weird. People just don’t think things through. There is a slight risk to vaccines, but the risk of not vaccinating is much greater, and if everyone who can be safely vaccinated, is vaccinated, then we’ll all be safer.

My kids were fully vaccinated-including with a few that weren’t available when I was young. I wouldn’t have minded missing measles, mumps and chicken pox…

Yeah. The only one of the classic childhood diseases I had was chickenpox; I was vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella and a few others I simply can’t recall anymore it’s been so long.

328 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:32:59am

re: #323 FemNaziBitch

Was the girl advertising her availability or her progressive opinions?

Preparedness.

Probably because the boys were too stupid to bring any to school.

329 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:33:20am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

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be it THE airliner or not, that’s just chilling

330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 9:33:33am

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

Fear of female sexuality is a very, very old theme. Probably goes back to the Neolithic Era - maybe even earlier.

I read somewhere that it came about with the rise of agriculture and permanent human settlements, which in turn ultimately lead to patriarchy.

There was a time when paternity was fairly irrelevant: children were born to the clan and raised by it. Paternity only became an issue when we started owning livestock and property and the question of inheritance became important.

331 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2014 9:35:07am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Looks like it could be legit, but I’ll reserve judgment for now.

332 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:36:11am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when paternity was fairly irrelevant: children were born to the clan and raised by it. Paternity only became an issue when we started owning livestock and property and the question of inheritance became important.

thus the link between sex and money?

333 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:38:08am

Staying with the theme:

334 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:38:22am

Reuters is reporting Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) monitors have been allowed to visit the crash site and to talk to locals. Also, the rebels are now saying they have not found or touched the flight recorders. thestar.com.my

335 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:38:26am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when paternity was fairly irrelevant: children were born to the clan and raised by it. Paternity only became an issue when we started owning livestock and property and the question of inheritance became important.

That’s what I’d read….I can’t remember the exact book now, but I do recall that same concept is in Larry Gonick’s Cartoon History of the Universe, Vol. I.

336 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 9:38:33am

re: #329 sattv4u2

be it THE airliner or not, that’s just chilling

Brown Moses retweeted it so it might have some validity but I have no idea. It is indeed a large plane with an engine on fire but I have no clue why it’s on some arabic language youtube account. There’s audio but I don;t hear the usual “allahu ackbar” that I’d expect form a recycled video from Syria or something. Looks like an Olive tree in parts of the video but that doesn’t narrow things down much.

337 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 9:39:25am

re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg

Looks like it could be legit, but I’ll reserve judgment for now.

I wouldn’t venture a guess either way. The only reason I posted is because Brown Moses who is generally pretty responsible.

338 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:39:46am

re: #334 wheat-dogghazi

Reuters is reporting Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) monitors have been allowed to visit the crash site and to talk to locals. Also, the rebels are now saying they have not found or touched the flight recorders. thestar.com.my

They’re fucking lying. The other day they claimed they’d sent them to Moscow.

339 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 9:39:46am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

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And why would it appear on some Arabic YT channel? Moreover, here the plane seems to fall pretty intact. I think MH-17 pretty much fell apart in the air.

340 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 9:40:56am

Brown Moses also has a lot of factually concerned followers. If someone recognizes the video or spots a problem he’ll update with it.

341 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 9:41:23am

re: #339 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And why would it appear on some Arabic news channel? Moreover, here the plane seems to fall pretty intact. I think MH-17 pretty much fell apart in the air.

Good points for which I have no answers.

342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 9:41:31am
343 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:41:34am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

They’re fucking lying. The other day they claimed they’d sent them to Moscow.

Interpol and Europol are sending officers to the site, too.

344 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 9:43:08am

That video is posted on a very suspicious looking youtube channel
youtube.com
My little Pony and Syria?

345 wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2014 9:43:34am

re: #337 Killgore Trout

I wouldn’t venture a guess either way. The only reason I posted is because Brown Moses who is generally pretty responsible.

The tweet in #324 has been deleted.

346 blueraven  Jul 19, 2014 9:43:59am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

They’re fucking lying. The other day they claimed they’d sent them to Moscow.

I don’t know, seems to me it would take a while to find the black boxes with such a huge debris field. They claimed they found them almost immediately.

Maybe they have them by now, but I have a hard time believing they found them that quickly.

347 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:44:13am

re: #339 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And why would it appear on some Arabic news channel? Moreover, here the plane seems to fall pretty intact. I think MH-17 pretty much fell apart in the air.</blockquote>

Plane in the video still seems fairly high up in the sky. We see the engine on fire so after it’s out of camera view the fuel could have exploded from the engine fire breaking the plane up while still airborne

Again, like KT stated,,,, I wouldn’t venture a guess either way.

348 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 9:44:13am

re: #337 Killgore Trout

I wouldn’t venture a guess either way. The only reason I posted is because Brown Moses who is generally pretty responsible.

re: #339 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And why would it appear on some Arabic news channel? Moreover, here the plane seems to fall pretty intact. I think MH-17 pretty much fell apart in the air.

From the look, it would have to be real or a very good fake. There truly just aren’t that many airliners falling out of the sky in flames. OTOH, a bunch of people have a RL interest in creating BS and confusion.

349 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 19, 2014 9:44:24am

re: #308 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, right.

One of my family members has this mentality. He’s not rabid anti-immigration, but he worries about all the “Mexicans” moving into his town and all the Spanish he sees and hears around him. He’s seriously afraid people will stop speaking English and he won’t be able to talk to anyone.

When I was in California up in the Sierras for a week in early August last year I heard more German than I did English in Yosemite Park and a few other locations.

350 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 9:45:02am

re: #344 Killgore Trout

It’s just an older video.

Youtube Video

351 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:45:11am

gahhh,,, TAKE TWO

re: #339 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And why would it appear on some Arabic news channel? Moreover, here the plane seems to fall pretty intact. I think MH-17 pretty much fell apart in the air.

Plane in the video still seems fairly high up in the sky. We see the engine on fire so after it’s out of camera view the fuel could have exploded from the engine fire breaking the plane up while still airborne

Again, like KT stated,,,, I wouldn’t venture a guess either way.

352 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:45:14am

re: #336 Killgore Trout

Brown Moses retweeted it so it might have some validity but I have no idea. It is indeed a large plane with an engine on fire but I have no clue why it’s on some arabic language youtube account. There’s audio but I don;t hear the usual “allahu ackbar” that I’d expect form a recycled video from Syria or something. Looks like an Olive tree in parts of the video but that doesn’t narrow things down much.

Olive trees do not grow in Ukraine, AFAIK. The climate is too cold.

353 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:45:44am

re: #350 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s just an older video.

[Embedded content]

Video

Good Google fu!!

354 Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2014 9:45:55am

re: #259 Timothy Watson

Tories were conservatives last I checked, so how does historical tea party = conservatism work for them?

To imply the American Revolution was totally about tea is to miss the point by a few hundred light years.

355 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2014 9:46:15am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

They’re fucking lying. The other day they claimed they’d sent them to Moscow.

They already have them. That’s what all that stalling/keeping investigators out was for. Now that they have them, they can send them back to Moscow so nobody else gets their hands on them. Even Putin knows those will prove his thugs are guilty.

356 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 9:46:22am

re: #350 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s just an older video.

[Embedded content]

Video

One of the AN transports, then?

357 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:46:24am

re: #346 blueraven

I don’t know, seems to me it would take a while to find the black boxes with such a huge debris field. They claimed they found them almost immediately.

Maybe they have them by now, but I have a hard time believing they found them that quickly.

If they found the tail section reasonably intact, it probably wouldn’t take long to find the CVR and the FDR. That’s where they’re located, if my memory serves me correct.

358 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 9:46:55am

re: #351 sattv4u2

Step 1: bing.com video search
Step 2: search for “plane falling”

Not much of a fu :)

359 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:47:00am

re: #344 Killgore Trout

That video is posted on a very suspicious looking youtube channel
youtube.com
My little Pony and Syria?

Syronys.

360 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:47:59am

re: #358 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Step 1: bing.com video search
Step 2: search for “plane falling”

Not much of a fu :)

well,, FU too!!!!

//

361 Joanne  Jul 19, 2014 9:48:27am

re: #318 Dr Lizardo

What a change…..when I was a kid in the 70s, I don’t recall parents being all worried about vaccinations and stuff. I had mine in due measure when I supposed to. No big deal.

I’m curious as to when the rules changed to allow unvaccinated kids to attend public school. When I was a kid in Chicago, you had to show proof of vaccinations. Heck, I got one IN school (4th grade), along with everyone in my class.

362 FemNaziBitch  Jul 19, 2014 9:49:52am

bbl

363 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:49:53am

re: #361 Joanne

I’m curious as to when the rules changed to allow unvaccinated kids to attend public school. When I was a kid in Chicago, you had to show proof of vaccinations. Heck, I got one IN school (4th grade), along with everyone in my class.

Same here. You had to be vaccinated to attend public school.

364 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 9:50:24am
365 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 19, 2014 9:50:51am

re: #361 Joanne

I’m curious as to when the rules changed to allow unvaccinated kids to attend public school. When I was a kid in Chicago, you had to show proof of vaccinations. Heck, I got one IN school (4th grade), along with everyone in my class.

Some districts issue waivers for “religious reasons,” and some states are pretty lax in enforcing the rules at non-public schools. Such was not the case when my kids attended school in Kentucky. If their vaccination cards were not up to date, the schools would not let them attend.

366 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:51:25am

re: #364 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’d call that “destruction of evidence” and “impeding a criminal investigation”.

367 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 9:51:34am

re: #361 Joanne

I’m curious as to when the rules changed to allow unvaccinated kids to attend public school. When I was a kid in Chicago, you had to show proof of vaccinations. Heck, I got one IN school (4th grade), along with everyone in my class.

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

Same here. You had to be vaccinated to attend public school.

Alabama has the requirement, but it has exceptions, especially the “Lord will protect us” sort.

368 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:52:54am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

Same here. You had to be vaccinated to attend public school.

private also

369 Joanne  Jul 19, 2014 9:53:32am

re: #329 sattv4u2

be it THE airliner or not, that’s just chilling

The length of time it took to come down…I can’t begin to imagine the terror of the people inside.

My heart hurts watching that.

370 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 9:54:52am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

Alabama has the requirement, but it has exceptions, especially the “Lord will protect us” sort.

Well, I’m still waiting on Halle Berry to knock on my door, come in, look me deeply in the eyes and say, “Where have you been all my life? Take me! Take me now!!” but thus far it hasn’t happened.

Vaccinations are important, and these damned dim bulbs who are listening to Jenny McCarthy, et al, are being dumbasses of the highest magnitude.

371 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:56:40am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

Well, I’m still waiting on Halle Berry to knock on my door, come in, look me deeply in the eyes and say, “Where have you been all my life? Take me! Take me now!!” but thus far it hasn’t happened

i’m sorry, but I’m not letting her leave here !!
/

372 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 9:57:18am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

re: #371 sattv4u2

Well, I’m still waiting on Halle Berry to knock on my door, come in, look me deeply in the eyes and say, “Where have you been all my life? Take me! Take me now!!” but thus far it hasn’t happened

i’m sorry, but I’m not letting her leave here !!
/

((that is,, unless Sofia Vergara shows up to take her place!!!)))

373 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 9:59:17am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

Well, I’m still waiting on Halle Berry to knock on my door, come in, look me deeply in the eyes and say, “Where have you been all my life? Take me! Take me now!!” but thus far it hasn’t happened.

Vaccinations are important, and these damned dim bulbs who are listening to Jenny McCarthy, et al, are being dumbasses of the highest magnitude.

In the 1970s, our office had a secretary whose parents didn’t believe or didn’t bother with the polio vaccine. If you needed to hear a world-class rant, you just had to sit in front of her wheelchair and ask about it. Sometimes you didn’t have to ask.

374 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 19, 2014 9:59:20am

re: #332 FemNaziBitch

thus the link between sex and money?

and the concept of women as property, or at least something to be controlled. do not want the inheritance going to an outsider’s offspring.

375 Joanne  Jul 19, 2014 10:00:06am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

Alabama has the requirement, but it has exceptions, especially the “Lord will protect us” sort.

To which I’d say, “Bully for you, but what about everyone else?” You want no vaccines, fine. No public school for you.

And do your community a favor; never let your kids leave your house.

376 EmmaAnne  Jul 19, 2014 10:01:34am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

You know, when white women can’t get justice, it can’t be good for WOC.
UConn to Pay $1.3 Million to End Suit on Rape Cases

Very good point. These clean-cut all-american white girls were treated like a bother. Yikes:

None of the men accused in the complaint faced criminal charges. One accused rapist was expelled, but his expulsion was appealed and he was permitted back on campus.

At least this hits the school financially so they might be better in the future.

377 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 10:07:05am

re: #345 wrenchwench

The tweet in #324 has been deleted.

Yeah, that youtube channel looks way too suspicious and the Arabic language title doesn’t help.

378 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 10:10:31am

Was just out chatting with a neighbor who returned from Israel 2 days ago. Many cool stories, I really want to go someday.

379 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:14:05am

re: #378 Killgore Trout

Was just out chatting with a neighbor who returned from Israel 2 days ago. Many cool stories, I really want to go someday.

It’s usually quite safe, except for the drivers. When Saddam was threatening shit, we had the option to evacuate or send our families back. The State Department rules were to go to a ‘safe haven’, in our case Washington DC. Told the commander “Are you kidding? You can get killed there.”

380 wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2014 10:15:03am

re: #378 Killgore Trout

Was just out chatting with a neighbor who returned from Israel 2 days ago. Many cool stories, I really want to go someday.

Many years ago my grandmother was talking about going, if she could find someone to go with her. I wanted to go, but the ‘with her’ part prevented me. My mom went on a trip to Europe with her once (one of those ‘if it’s Tuesday this must be Belgium’ tours) and their relationship was never the same afterwards.

381 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 10:15:38am

re: #373 Decatur Deb

In the 1970s, our office had a secretary whose parents didn’t believe or didn’t bother with the polio vaccine. If you needed to hear a world-class rant, you just had to sit in front of her wheelchair and ask about it. Sometimes you didn’t have to ask.

My father contracted polio in the late 30s or early 40s.
When the polio vaccine became available, he made sure all of us kids were immunized.
I got the vaccine that left a round scar on my upper left arm.
I’m 60-something and the scar is still there. I wear it as a badge of pride.

382 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 10:15:48am

A couple of brushstrokes to Strelkov’s portrait:

1. He published quite a lot of articles about Bosnia and Chechnya in the infamous ultranationalist, neofascist, neo-Stalinist, theocratic commie newspaper “Zavtra” (the one that Putin congratulated when it had an anniversary):

zavtra.ru

2. Acc. to some old testimonies he’s had a hand in torture and disappearances of some Chechens:

echo.msk.ru

3. In a recent comment he rants about some “agents of the world oligarchy” in the Russian govt., about “finance oligarchy” that sponsors “liberal scum” and warns against any alliances with “satanists and sodomites” (the Russian liberal opposition).

politikus.ru

383 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:16:48am

re: #382 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

A couple of brushstrokes to Strelkov’s portrait:

1. He published quite a lot of articles about Bosnia and Chechnya in the infamous ultranationalist, neofascist, neo-Stalinist theocratic commie newspaper “Zavtra” (the one that Putin congratulated when it had an anniversary):

zavtra.ru

2. Acc. to some old testimonies he’s had a hand in torture and disappearances of some Chechens:

echo.msk.ru

3. In a recent comment he rants about some “agents of the world oligarchy” in the Russian govt., about “finance oligarchy” that sponsors “liberal scum” and warns against any alliances with “satanists and sodomites” (the Russian liberal opposition).

politikus.ru

Starting to sound like ex-colonel Allan West.

384 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 10:17:29am

re: #383 Decatur Deb

West is a wimpy clown compared to this guy.

385 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 10:17:40am

re: #378 Killgore Trout

Was just out chatting with a neighbor who returned from Israel 2 days ago. Many cool stories, I really want to go someday.

re: #380 wrenchwench

Spent one day there (Israel,, in the Ela Valley region) at a “sister” facility of where I work. Really want to go back for an actual visit/ site seeing tour

386 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:19:02am

re: #384 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

West is a wimpy clown compared to this guy.

Give him time and power. Circumstances make the man.

387 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 10:19:27am

Wheee!

388 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:20:13am

re: #385 sattv4u2

Spent one day there (Israel,, in the Ela Valley region) at a “sister” facility of where I work. Really want to go back for an actual visit/ site seeing tour

One-day turnaround? You had a shitty boss.

389 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 10:21:34am

re: #385 sattv4u2

Spent one day there (Israel,, in the Ela Valley region) at a “sister” facility of where I work. Really want to go back for an actual visit/ site seeing tour

here

rrsat.com

390 allegro  Jul 19, 2014 10:22:36am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

My father contracted polio in the late 30s or early 40s.
When the polio vaccine became available, he made sure all of us kids were immunized.
I got the vaccine that left a round scar on my upper left arm.
I’m 60-something and the scar is still there. I wear it as a badge of pride.

Are you sure that isn’t a smallpox vaccine? I have a similar scar on my thigh from one. As I recall, the polio vaccine was developed and introduced in the late 50s and it was an oral vaccine. I remember standing in line with my mom and my brother at the county courthouse to get our doses. It was a BFD. We knew many people who had suffered from the disease including children fated to life in iron lungs. Horrid disease.

391 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 10:22:39am

re: #388 Decatur Deb

One-day turnaround? You had a shitty boss.

Stop over on the way to Jordan for a build

392 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 10:23:17am

re: #379 Decatur Deb

It’s usually quite safe, except for the drivers. When Saddam was threatening shit, we had the option to evacuate or send our families back. The State Department rules were to go to a ‘safe haven’, in our case Washington DC. Told the commander “Are you kidding? You can get killed there.”

lol

393 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:24:14am

re: #390 allegro

Are you sure that isn’t a smallpox vaccine? I have a similar scar on my thigh from one. As I recall, the polio vaccine was developed and introduced in the late 50s and it was an oral vaccine. I remember standing in line with my mom and my brother at the county courthouse to get our doses. It was a BFD. We knew many people who had suffered from the disease including children fated to life in iron lungs. Horrid disease.

Sounds like smallpox too, but the first Salk polio vaccine was a shot (my generation). Sabin’s oral vaccine was later.

394 allegro  Jul 19, 2014 10:25:37am

re: #393 Decatur Deb

Sounds like smallpox too, but the first Salk polio vaccine was a shot (my generation) Sabin’s oral vaccine was later.

Ah, thanks.

395 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2014 10:26:10am

re: #380 wrenchwench

Many years ago my grandmother was talking about going, if she could find someone to go with her. I wanted to go, but the ‘with her’ part prevented me. My mom went on a trip to Europe with her once (one of those ‘if it’s Tuesday this must be Belgium’ tours) and their relationship was never the same afterwards.

Oddly enough I get along with my mom best when traveling but visits at home can be tense. I do my best to meet up with her in Africa or Europe when I can instead of visiting her at home.

396 blueraven  Jul 19, 2014 10:27:37am

re: #390 allegro

Are you sure that isn’t a smallpox vaccine? I have a similar scar on my thigh from one. As I recall, the polio vaccine was developed and introduced in the late 50s and it was an oral vaccine. I remember standing in line with my mom and my brother at the county courthouse to get our doses. It was a BFD. We knew many people who had suffered from the disease including children fated to life in iron lungs. Horrid disease.

Looks like the oral vaccine wasn’t widely available until 1962

en.wikipedia.org

397 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 10:29:48am

Shrinkage!

398 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:32:22am

Rain-delayed dogwalk. BBL

399 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 10:33:45am

re: #398 Decatur Deb

Rain-delayed dogwalk. BBL

Doggies been sitting by the door,, with their legs crossed and a terse look on their faces,, waiting???

400 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 10:34:12am

Heh, and now Dugin says Kurginyan may have had something to do with the Boing “provocation”. It’s like a battle royale between snakes, cockroaches and toads.

401 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 10:35:56am

re: #399 sattv4u2

Doggies been sitting by the door,, with their legs crossed and a terse look on their faces,, waiting???

Nah. Kicked Doofus’ ass out in the rain. His contract still says he gets two walks a day, and I don’t want to fight another grievance.

402 Snarknado!  Jul 19, 2014 10:36:12am

re: #400 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Heh, and now Dugin says Kurginyan may have had something to do with the Boing “provocation”. It’s like a battle royale between snakes, cockroaches and toads.

In defense of snakes, cockroaches and toads…

/(a little)

403 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 10:37:17am

re: #400 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Heh, and now Dugin says Kurginyan may have had something to do with the Boing “provocation”. It’s like a battle royale between snakes, cockroaches and toads.

They’re turning on each other; should the situation of the separatists become even more dire - as in, ideally, they’re reduced to two separate pockets surrounded by Ukrainian forces - expect the blame game to really heat up.

404 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 10:44:19am

re: #390 allegro

Are you sure that isn’t a smallpox vaccine? I have a similar scar on my thigh from one. As I recall, the polio vaccine was developed and introduced in the late 50s and it was an oral vaccine. I remember standing in line with my mom and my brother at the county courthouse to get our doses. It was a BFD. We knew many people who had suffered from the disease including children fated to life in iron lungs. Horrid disease.

You are right! It was smallpox!
Polio was the sugar cube vaccine.

I. am. old.

405 allegro  Jul 19, 2014 10:48:17am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

You are right! It was smallpox!
Polio was the sugar cube vaccine.

I. am. old.

Heh. Me. Too.

406 Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2014 10:50:54am
407 allegro  Jul 19, 2014 10:53:51am

re: #406 Charles Johnson

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Jebus they haven’t even taken care of the bodies?!!

408 wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2014 10:57:33am

I don’t know the veracity of this one:

409 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 19, 2014 10:58:26am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

I recall getting an injection of the Salk polio vaccine when I was in Second Grade. That made it 1955. I don’t believe that the sugar cubes came out until the Sabin vaccine.

It is a horrible disease. I recall parents who were just miserable because their children had polio-like symptoms. There were outbreaks and rumors of outbreaks. Most everyone knew someone whom polio had put on crutches or, worse, into an iron lung. I also recall not using drinking fountains and avoiding the swimming hole in the heat of summer because the disease was so damned contagious. To gain immunity to something that we feared so much seemed miraculous at the time.

Yeah, I’m old too. Beats the alternative.

410 CuriousLurker  Jul 19, 2014 10:58:27am

re: #407 allegro

Jebus they haven’t even taken care of the bodies?!!

That’s what Rachel Maddow said last night, that the bodies were left as is Thursday night and were scheduled to be left again Friday night. It’s awful.

411 Aqua Obama  Jul 19, 2014 10:59:24am

re: #406 Charles Johnson

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Everybody can walk up to the wreckage… except the investigators, apparently.

What a joke.

412 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:00:20am

re: #409 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I recall getting an injection of the Salk polio vaccine when I was in Second Grade. That made it 1955. I don’t believe that the sugar cubes came out until the Sabin vaccine.

It is a horrible disease. I recall parents who were just miserable because their children had polio-like symptoms. There were outbreaks and rumors of outbreaks. Most everyone knew someone whom polio had put on crutches or, worse, into an iron lung. I also recall not using drinking fountains and avoiding the swimming hole in the heat of summer because the disease was so damned contagious. To gain immunity to something that we feared so much seemed miraculous at the time.

Yeah, I’m old too. Beats the alternative.

Yep. I remember telling my younger siblings that they were lucky to get the sugar cube in the 1960s.

413 wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2014 11:01:43am

Max Seddon has lots more tweets from the site, and now an article.

A muted sun baked golden fields of hay and sunflowers. Bloated and mangled bodies gave off a fetid stench. A burly gunman who called himself Grumpy stepped into the road as a convoy of international observers snaked along the bumpy country road to crash site of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17.

“I will let none of you pass! I have an order!” he shouted. Motley gunmen in ragtag uniforms flanked out alongside him. A lanky rebel in a beekeeping suit who reeked of drink folded his automatic rifle in his arms. The observers wandered out, then meekly retreated

[…].

414 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:03:00am
415 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:05:11am
416 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 11:05:14am

re: #413 wrenchwench

Max Seddon has lots more tweets from the site, and now an article.

It’s pretty obvious the separatists are doing everything they can to obstruct the investigation.

417 Snarknado!  Jul 19, 2014 11:05:24am

re: #409 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I recall getting an injection of the Salk polio vaccine when I was in Second Grade. That made it 1955. I don’t believe that the sugar cubes came out until the Sabin vaccine.

It is a horrible disease. I recall parents who were just miserable because their children had polio-like symptoms. There were outbreaks and rumors of outbreaks. Most everyone knew someone whom polio had put on crutches or, worse, into an iron lung. I also recall not using drinking fountains and avoiding the swimming hole in the heat of summer because the disease was so damned contagious. To gain immunity to something that we feared so much seemed miraculous at the time.

Yeah, I’m old too. Beats the alternative.

I remember the shot, and the three sugar-cube days later, but I’m (just) too young to remember the fear.

418 The War TARDIS  Jul 19, 2014 11:07:39am

No better way to start the day than serenading my lady in Iran with a Taylor Swift song. :)

419 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:07:54am

So who is marking the body parts if the separatists aren’t allowing anyone in?

Earlier reports had the separatists just tossing debris/ bodies into a dump-style truck so I doubt it’s them “marking” them.

ALSO,, can’t find it now but I did see a photo of two men with NTSB type jumpsuits at the site. Looked as if they were looking at wreckage and/ or bodies

420 Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2014 11:08:30am

As I recall my polio vaccination it was three visits, first a shot, second was sugar cube, and third was a sugar solution. I was 5 at the time but I don’t recall any other vaccines that used the sugar.

421 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 11:08:55am

re: #409 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I recall getting an injection of the Salk polio vaccine when I was in Second Grade. That made it 1955. I don’t believe that the sugar cubes came out until the Sabin vaccine.

It is a horrible disease. I recall parents who were just miserable because their children had polio-like symptoms. There were outbreaks and rumors of outbreaks. Most everyone knew someone whom polio had put on crutches or, worse, into an iron lung. I also recall not using drinking fountains and avoiding the swimming hole in the heat of summer because the disease was so damned contagious. To gain immunity to something that we feared so much seemed miraculous at the time.

Yeah, I’m old too. Beats the alternative.

Polio was a scourge. I was born in 1969, so I never saw it, but I heard the tales from my parents and occasionally met an older person who’d had it.

422 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:10:57am

re: #421 Dr Lizardo

I was born in 1969

Frak, i’m old!!

423 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 19, 2014 11:12:55am

re: #422 sattv4u2

I was born in 1969

Frak, i’m old!!

You were born in 68? I mean 68 CE ;)

424 blueraven  Jul 19, 2014 11:13:24am

re: #413 wrenchwench

Max Seddon has lots more tweets from the site, and now an article.

This is an abomination! The entire world needs to rain down hell-fire on their ass for this.
There is no excuse for not letting officials in to take care of the bodies. None!

425 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:13:25am

re: #422 sattv4u2

I was born in 1969

Frak, i’m old!!

I don’t even remember 1969, except in a few flashbacks…

426 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 19, 2014 11:14:09am

re: #417 Snarknado!

Be glad that you’ve managed to forget the fear. It was a fearful time; between polio, tuberculosis (At the time incurable and also very contagious), and weekly duck-and-cover drills we were immersed in fear. That experience has contributed to my impatience with the fear of terrorism that’s gripped the nation.

427 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:14:44am

re: #417 Snarknado!

I remember the shot, and the three sugar-cube days later, but I’m (just) too young to remember the fear.

I was old enough to appreciate a bunch of terror diseases—polio, diphtheria, meningitis, lockjaw. Only meningitis is still a (milder) public health problem. Salk and his like need to be carved into a mountain somewhere.

428 CuriousLurker  Jul 19, 2014 11:15:34am

re: #321 calochortus

My kids were fully vaccinated-including with a few that weren’t available when I was young. I wouldn’t have minded missing measles, mumps and chicken pox…

Oh, man—they have vaccinations for mumps now? I wish they’d had that when I was a kid. I got the mumps in elementary school and it was miserable. Chicken pox too (or was it measles?—don’t remember as I was too young).

My older brother got mumps as a teenager and they “dropped” on him. He was one unhappy camper for weeks.

429 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:16:32am

re: #422 sattv4u2

I was born in 1969

Frak, i’m old!!

Child, I’m pre-atomic.

430 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 11:16:48am

re: #422 sattv4u2

I was born in 1969

Frak, i’m old!!

Heh.

Ahh, growing up in Los Angeles of the 1970s. Seems like a sort of Golden Age to be a kid, but even my long-term memory can recall issues like busing, civil rights, the murders of Harvey Milk and George Moscone, the earthquake drills we did in school.

I remember the tail-end of the Disco Era, the Carter Administration, the Iranian Revolution and subsequent hostage crisis, a brief oil embargo in the mid-to-late 70s - I remember the odd/even license plate scheme in California at the time - and other things.

So even in that Golden Age, there were hints of a darker future to come.

431 CuriousLurker  Jul 19, 2014 11:17:17am

re: #421 Dr Lizardo

Polio was a scourge. I was born in 1969, so I never saw it, but I heard the tales from my parents and occasionally met an older person who’d had it.

Heh, same as my younger brother.

432 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:17:40am

re: #429 Decatur Deb

Child, I’m pre-atomic.

So what DID Ooogg say when he invented fire?

433 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:18:27am

re: #426 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Be glad that you’ve managed to forget the fear. It was a fearful time; between polio, tuberculosis (At the time incurable and also very contagious), and weekly duck-and-cover drills we were immersed in fear. That experience has contributed to my impatience with the fear of terrorism that’s gripped the nation.

From what my Mom tells me, I’m glad I don’t remember having the chicken pox when I was about 2 or 3 years old. Apparently, all the chicken pox eruptions were inside my mouth and throat, and I almost died.
It seemed like I got measles every time there was an outbreak.
No vaccines for either of them back in the day.

434 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:18:36am

re: #432 sattv4u2

So what DID Ooogg say when he invented fire?

Bak-kon.

435 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 11:20:08am

I had chicken pox as a kid. It was miserable. To this day, I still despise the smell of calamine lotion. Ugh.

I simply do not understand the people who refuse to vaccinate their kids. If there’s a simple way to protect your kid from a series of diseases that used to be fatal, why not do it?

436 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:21:18am

re: #435 Lidane

I had chicken pox as a kid. It was miserable. To this day, I still despise the smell of calamine lotion. Ugh.

I simply do not understand the people who refuse to vaccinate their kids. If there’s a simple way to protect your kid from a series of diseases that used to be fatal, why not do it?

“The derp of the fathers shall be visited upon the children.”

437 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 11:22:08am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t even remember 1969, except in a few flashbacks…

I wasn’t even a gleam in my mother’s eyes in 1969. I wasn’t born until 1973.

438 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:22:23am

I had chicken pox, measles and the mumps.. All I recall from any of them,,, the mumps, I got lots and lots and lots of ice cream!!

439 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:22:25am

re: #435 Lidane

I had chicken pox as a kid. It was miserable. To this day, I still despise the smell of calamine lotion. Ugh.

I simply do not understand the people who refuse to vaccinate their kids. If there’s a simple way to protect your kid from a series of diseases that used to be fatal, why not do it?

I’ve been hearing that “disease parties” are making a come back.
Parents who would prefer to deliberate infecting their children and undergo the torture of mumps, measles, chicken pox instead of the vaccine is mind-boggling.

440 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:23:37am

re: #437 Lidane

I wasn’t even a gleam in my mother’s eyes in 1969. I wasn’t born until 1973.

{sigh}

I had already started my own small business by ‘73

441 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 11:24:04am

re: #437 Lidane

I wasn’t even a gleam in my mother’s eyes in 1969. I wasn’t born until 1973.

That’s well before my time. I was delivered early in the morning on a fall Wednesday in 1984.

442 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:24:24am

re: #441 thedopefishlives

That’s well before my time. I was delivered early in the morning on a fall Wednesday in 1984.

GGAAAHHHHH!!!!!

443 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:24:33am

re: #438 sattv4u2

I had chicken pox, measles and the mumps.. All I recall from any of them,,, the mumps, I got lots and lots and lots of ice cream!!

So you should be getting into shingles vaccine, if not already.

444 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 11:24:35am

re: #439 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been hearing that “disease parties” are making a come back.
Parents who would prefer to deliberate infecting their children and undergo the torture of mumps, measles, chicken pox instead of the vaccine is mind-boggling.

Those people are stupid. It’s cheaper and easier to get your kid a series of vaccine shots than it is to take them to the doctor for chicken pox or whatever. Also, if you deliberately get your kid sick, there is something wrong with you.

445 Lidane  Jul 19, 2014 11:26:14am

re: #441 thedopefishlives

That’s well before my time. I was delivered early in the morning on a fall Wednesday in 1984.

If you lived in Houston, I probably made money babysitting you. Hahahaha.

446 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 11:29:13am

re: #445 Lidane

If you lived in Houston, I probably made money babysitting you. Hahahaha.

Nay. I was born a Mountaineer, raised a Hoosier, and adopted a Minnesotan.

447 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:30:36am

A friend has a Model 94 Winchester 30-30 from (he thinks) the 1940s.
Offering to trade us to get back a Panther he sold us years ago.
Dickering has commenced.

448 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:31:42am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t even remember 1969, except in a few flashbacks…

Same here, and I was 25.

449 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:32:28am

re: #448 Decatur Deb

Same here, and I was 25.

I was 17. Friends from back then tell me it was a GREAT year.

450 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:33:19am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dickering has commenced.

Did you at least buy dinner and flowers 1st!?!?!
/

451 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 11:33:34am

re: #450 sattv4u2

Dickering has commenced.

Did you at least buy dinner and flowers 1st!?!?!
/

*WHACK!*

452 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 11:33:40am

re: #432 sattv4u2

So what DID Ooogg say when he invented fire?

You’ll have to dig out your copy of Quest For Fire for that one, I’d think.

453 wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2014 11:33:48am

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was 17. Friends from back then tell me it was a GREAT year.

I was 11. It was a GREAT year.

454 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:34:02am

Something for wheat…

455 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:34:24am

re: #452 Dr Lizardo

You’ll have to dig out your copy of Quest For Fire for that one, I’d think.

The movie anthropologists most love to hate.

456 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:34:24am

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was 17. Friends from back then tell me it was a GREAT year.

Got me by 1

16 in 69

457 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 11:35:48am

re: #456 sattv4u2

Got me by 1

16 in 69

I started 1969 at 16 and turned 17 at the beginning of summer.
At least as much of 1969 as I can remember…

458 Joanne  Jul 19, 2014 11:36:04am

re: #422 sattv4u2

I was born in 1969

Frak, i’m old!!

And I in 1959. If you’re old, I’m…

Fuck.

459 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 11:37:08am

re: #455 Decatur Deb

The movie anthropologists most love to hate.

I believe the director remarked he wished he’d set it at a different era. 80,000 BCE is the wrong time frame.

460 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:37:17am

re: #458 Joanne

And I in 1959. If you’re old, I’m…

Fuck.

In the seminary then. No fucks.

461 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:37:30am

re: #458 Joanne

And I in 1959. If you’re old, I’m…

Fuck.

younger

(1953 here)

462 sattv4u2  Jul 19, 2014 11:38:41am

And on that note, if I can get all these creaky ole bones moving in unison, the long quiet drive to go do errands beckons

463 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 19, 2014 11:41:15am

In 69 I was 21 and already in the Navy. The Navy stationed me in South Texas - WTF? South Texas was so bad that in 70 I volunteered to serve in-country in Vietnam. Oddly enough, the Navy was happy to send me on down to the Mekong Delta for a year. It was better than South Texas.

464 allegro  Jul 19, 2014 11:43:36am

re: #426 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Be glad that you’ve managed to forget the fear. It was a fearful time; between polio, tuberculosis (At the time incurable and also very contagious), and weekly duck-and-cover drills we were immersed in fear. That experience has contributed to my impatience with the fear of terrorism that’s gripped the nation.

Even so there were few ‘helicopter parents.’ I feel so bad for kids today whose parents control and plan every moment of their lives. It’s nuts and not doing those kids any favors at all.

465 b_sharp  Jul 19, 2014 11:44:33am

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was 17. Friends from back then tell me it was a GREAT year.

Holy shit you guys are old.

I was 14.

466 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:45:17am

re: #465 b_sharp

Holy shit you guys are old.

I was 14.

Get up and change the channel. Try to find the fights.

467 Joanne  Jul 19, 2014 11:46:00am

re: #466 Decatur Deb

Get up and change the channel. Try to find the fights.

That was hubby’s dad. Hubby was the remote.

468 allegro  Jul 19, 2014 11:47:17am

re: #467 Joanne

That was hubby’s dad. Hubby was the remote.

Heh, that was my dad’s joke back in the day. He’d say “why should I buy a new teevee with a remote? That’s why I have kids!”

469 Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2014 11:48:12am

re: #468 allegro

Heh, that was my dad’s joke back in the day. He’s say “why should I buy a new teepee with a remote? That’s why I have kids!”

My ex-wife’s joke when asked by my dad if she had an automatic dishwasher here in the Czech Republic was that I was the automatic dishwasher.

470 Decatur Deb  Jul 19, 2014 11:50:48am

re: #468 allegro

Heh, that was my dad’s joke back in the day. He’s say “why should I buy a new teepee with a remote? That’s why I have kids!”

And the thread slowly drifts back on-topic…

471 thedopefishlives  Jul 19, 2014 11:53:17am

re: #458 Joanne

And I in 1959. If you’re old, I’m…

Fuck.

If it matters, the fishfolk are both older than you (‘55 and ‘58). And yet, my wife’s parents have them both put to shame (‘41).

472 prairiefire  Jul 19, 2014 12:04:53pm

re: #427 Decatur Deb

I was old enough to appreciate a bunch of terror diseases—polio, diphtheria, meningitis, lockjaw. Only meningitis is still a (milder) public health problem. Salk and his like need to be carved into a mountain somewhere.

Meningitis vaccine now.

473 Snarknado!  Jul 19, 2014 12:10:02pm

re: #426 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Be glad that you’ve managed to forget the fear. It was a fearful time; between polio, tuberculosis (At the time incurable and also very contagious), and weekly duck-and-cover drills we were immersed in fear. That experience has contributed to my impatience with the fear of terrorism that’s gripped the nation.

I haven’t forgotten, I’m just that tiny bit too young. Salk vaccine was available before I could talk.

474 Snarknado!  Jul 19, 2014 12:14:43pm

re: #456 sattv4u2

Got me by 1

16 in 69

Me too.

475 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 12:25:00pm

Jonas Salk deserves the never-ending gratitude of humanity for refusing to patent his vaccine.

On April 12, 1955, Edward R. Murrow asked Jonas Salk who owned the patent to the polio vaccine. “Well, the people, I would say,” Salk responded. “There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?”

476 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 19, 2014 1:02:55pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jonas Salk deserves the never-ending gratitude of humanity for refusing to patent his vaccine.

They don’t make ‘em like that anymore, do they?

477 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2014 1:04:22pm

re: #476 Higgs Boson’s Mate

They don’t make ‘em like that anymore, do they?

Salk and Murrow both.


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