Greenwald Wrong Again: The Real Reason NBC Correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin Was Pulled From Gaza

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When NBC News correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin was recently called home from Gaza where he had been reporting on the conflict, our good friend Glenn Greenwald immediately took to The Intercept to post one of his over-heated propaganda pieces, very strongly insinuating that Mohyeldin was pulled out because his reporting was too pro-Palestinian: NBC News Pulls Veteran Reporter From Gaza After Witnessing Israeli Attack on Children.

Despite this powerful first-hand reporting - or perhaps because of it - Mohyeldin was nowhere to be seen on last night’s NBC Nightly News broadcast with Brian Williams. Instead, as Media Bistro’s Jordan Chariton noted, NBC curiously had Richard Engel - who was in Tel Aviv, and had just arrived there an hour or so earlier - “report” on the attack. Charlton wrote that “the decision to have Engel report the story for ‘Nightly’ instead of Mohyeldin angered some NBC News staffers.”

Indeed, numerous NBC employees, including some of the network’s highest-profile stars, were at first confused and then indignant over the use of Engel rather than Mohyeldin to report the story. But what they did not know, and what has not been reported until now, is that Mohyeldin was removed completely from reporting on Gaza by a top NBC executive, David Verdi, who ordered Mohyeldin to leave Gaza immediately.

Over the last two weeks, Mohyeldin’s reporting has been far more balanced and even-handed than the standard pro-Israel coverage that dominates establishment American press coverage; his reports have provided context to the conflict that is missing from most American reports and he avoids adopting Israeli government talking points as truth. As a result, neocon and “pro-Israel” websites have repeatedly attacked him as a “Hamas spokesman” and spouting “pro-Hamas rants.”

It doesn’t take an expert at reading between the lines to see what Greenwald is getting at with these incendiary accusations, and sure enough his followers immediately launched a Twitter campaign to pressure NBC into returning Mohyeldin to Gaza, all of them completely convinced that he’d been pulled out because of pro-Israel bias at NBC.

At the time, I posted these tweets about the situation:

This Friday, NBC reversed their decision, and announced that Mohyeldin would be returning to Gaza — leading Greenwald to take credit and tweet triumphantly:

But now, thanks to Brian Stelter (who actually committed some journalism to get at the truth of the story), we learn that Mohyeldin’s withdrawal from Gaza had nothing to do with his empathy for Palestinians, but everything to do with internal NBC politics around the most important thing to a cable news network: ratings.

What Really Happened With NBC and Ayman Mohyeldin.

Did this decision demonstrate unfairness on the part of NBC, or more mundane internal politicking? Engel is one of NBC’s most recognizable correspondents, after all, and “Nightly News” is locked in a battle with ABC’s “World News” for No. 1 in the Nielsen ratings.

“The producers are so paranoid about the ratings, they’ll do anything to stick with the faces viewers know and trust — so that would be Richard over Ayman,” said one of the employees. “Plus, there is no tolerance if a story is fed in and doesn’t live up to expectations.”

At this point, one has to wonder how many times Glenn Greenwald will cry “WOLF!” and still be considered a reputable journalist, instead of what he really is: a propagandist who regularly twists and distorts facts to suit his agenda.

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556 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 2:12:51pm
2 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2014 2:14:57pm

Has he ever been right? Ever? Seriously. I’m asking.

3 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 2:20:45pm

HURR HURR. GLENN IS A JOURNALIST DOING JOURNALISM!!!!! HOW MANY JOURNALISM AWARDS HAS U WON, U SLOBBERING OBAMABOT!!!!!

4 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 2:22:20pm

I have a journalism degree. I chose that field because I love to write, I love to investigate and I love hunting down the truth behind an incident.

I weep for what this profession has become. Doesn’t matter if it’s newspaper, television news, blog, news website, news radio. It’s all propaganda driven crap.

The truth has no home anymore. It’s been replaced with accusations, assumptions, strawman arguments, religious bias and just outright false statements (the complete opposite of what real journalism should be).

I still dream of being writer, but I’m not sure I want to be a journalist.

5 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 2:22:36pm

The A Team shows up so the B Team gets sent somewhere else. Yep, earth shattering story you have there Glenn.

6 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 2:23:07pm

What has Glenn said about the Malaysian airliner? Has he done any actual JOURNALISM?

HURR HURR I TEH MIGHTY GLENN CHOOSE THE TOPICS OF MY AWESOME JOURNALISTIC SKILLZ!!!!

I CHOOSE TO NOT WRITE ABOUT BRAZIL OR RUSSIA WHAT CONCERN IS IT OF URS U LOWLY THING???? I DO TEH GREATEST JOURNALISM & NOT U.

7 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 20, 2014 2:31:53pm

Pet peeve: Putin’s name is Vladimir (diminutive: Volodya, Vova). Not Vladislav (diminutive: Vlad). /mini-rant over

8 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 2:58:51pm

Gosh, this is the quietest I’ve seen LGF in a good long awhile.

Did Charles suddenly get boring or something?

9 RadicalModerate  Jul 20, 2014 3:00:47pm

RT goes the “creative journalism” route again - because obviously the best way to show the horror of a country using child solders is to use an image from a video game.

News Station Uses Metal Gear Solid V Pic For Report On Child Soldiers

10 Ryan King  Jul 20, 2014 3:03:54pm

I’m really happy about a minor quibble on the last thread that stayed nothing more than a minor quibble.

Humanity first, allegiances second/

Progress.

11 Romantic Heretic  Jul 20, 2014 3:09:03pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Gosh, this is the quietest I’ve seen LGF in a good long awhile.

Did Charles suddenly get boring or something?

Sunday night. Dinner time. Only reason I’m posting is my dinner was early.

I’ll be heading off shortly to finish beating Catherine the Great into paste.

12 D Koch  Jul 20, 2014 3:09:09pm

I don’t read Griftwald because he’s a sick joke.

Nevertheless, his Moonie-like cult likes to distribute his leaflets on well trafficked corners of the net.

When I saw his garbage, the thing that stuck out to me was that it had no sourcing. And given his history as a notorious liar, sock puppet, and conspiracy theorist, you just knew that most of this shit had to be fabricated.

Like every cult you can think of, it’s all based on a foundation of lies and exploitation of damaged people (ie Abby Martin and Trutherism)

13 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 3:10:47pm

Of course, there are those who’d rather believe in pro-Israel conspiracies than in the simple fact that companies like NBC ONLY make decisions like this based on profit:

14 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 3:11:17pm
15 BeachDem  Jul 20, 2014 3:13:20pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I have a journalism degree. I chose that field because I love to write, I love to investigate and I love hunting down the truth behind an incident.

I weep for what this profession has become. Doesn’t matter if it’s newspaper, television news, blog, news website, news radio. It’s all propaganda driven crap.

The truth has no home anymore. It’s been replaced with accusations, assumptions, strawman arguments, religious bias and just outright false statements (the complete opposite of what real journalism should be).

I still dream of being writer, but I’m not sure I want to be a journalist.

I often say that after J-school, I chose the more honorable profession of advertising, where there are still some requirements for telling the truth.

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 3:15:52pm

Where’s Jeff Foxworthy when you need him?

“If you believe your ego is bigger than the size of Texas…you might be Glenn Greenwald.”

“If you consider Russia and Brazil to be bastions of freedom and the U.S. tyrannical…you might be Glenn Greenwald.”

“If you have recurring dreams about Edward Snowden…you might be Glenn Greenwald.”

“If it takes you 27 paragraphs to say something that could easily be said in 3…you might be Glenn Greenwald.”

“If you spend more than 10 minutes a day at the mirror practicing your scowl…you might be Glenn Greenwald.”

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 3:16:20pm

re: #15 BeachDem

I often say that after J-school, I chose the more honorable profession of advertising, where there are still some requirements for telling the truth.

The really funny part about that is…my other degree is in marketing!

18 Kragar  Jul 20, 2014 3:18:00pm
19 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 3:20:54pm
20 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 20, 2014 3:25:16pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #15 BeachDem

I was once recruited by a diamond guy to leave my gold refinery job and switch to selling diamonds. He was unhappy when I said I’d not switch to a job that would make a liar out of me. Then commenced the unhappy sputtering.

I explained that in my biz, 14kt is 14kt. No arguments other than assays as quality control. Okay he nods his head right. Then i asked him if he argued the hypothetical stone at hand was the same quality when he both bought and then later sold the stone. It’s an example of horsetrading vs a commodity.

I kept the gold gig. That horsetrading thing is not for me.

21 Ryan King  Jul 20, 2014 3:25:31pm
22 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 3:33:24pm

We need real journalists in Gaza.

Why isn’t Pierre allowing Glenn to go and report from Gaza?!?!? Quit trying to silence the truth Pierre! Pierre is censoring his journalists from going over to Israel and report the truth! Is Pierre just another Isreal lap dog?!

Free Greenwald! Send him to Gaza!

23 D Koch  Jul 20, 2014 3:38:54pm

I’m shocked! I’m shocked!

Shocked, to discover First Intercept with their blank check doesn’t have any reporters or free lancers on the ground in Gaza.

Shocked, I tell ya!

24 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 3:42:36pm

re: #23 D Koch

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I’m shocked! I’m shocked!

Shocked, to discover First Intercept with their blank check doesn’t have any reporters or free lancers on the ground in Gaza.

Shocked, I tell ya!

It is almost that Pierre is trying to cover up the truth for somebody?

I wonder who he is beholden too and why?

//

25 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 3:52:10pm

There is this boutique, Hijabee, that I drive by every day on the way home from work.

I have often thought about going in there to buy something, because they have nice things in the window, and it’s almost impossible to find a “Sabbath robe” anywhere, but an abaya looks virtually the same.

26 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 20, 2014 4:01:23pm

re: #7 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Pet peeve: Putin’s name is Vladimir (diminutive: Volodya, Vova). Not Vladislav (diminutive: Vlad). /mini-rant over

Thank you for the reminder. Russian names always make me confused even without adding in Patronymics…

27 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 4:04:19pm

re: #23 D Koch

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I’m shocked! I’m shocked!

Shocked, to discover First Intercept with their blank check doesn’t have any reporters or free lancers on the ground in Gaza.

Shocked, I tell ya!

First Look Media - $250 Million licking Snowden’s balls but not a dime for covering the plight of the Palestinian people.

28 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 20, 2014 4:05:15pm

Russia says it backs transparent international probe of jet crash in Ukraine

Pffft. Tell me another one.

29 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 4:06:10pm

re: #27 b.d.

First Look Media - $250 Million licking Snowden’s balls but not a dime for covering the plight of the Palestinian people.

SNOWDEN: HEY!!!! I’M HERE WITH TEH WHIPPED CREAM & CHOCOLATE SPRINKLES & NOBODY IS LICKING MY BALLS. WHERE IS ALL TEH EVERYBODYS???? HERE’S MY BALLS, HERE!!!!!

30 Archangelus  Jul 20, 2014 4:10:12pm

re: #29 Pie-onist Overlord

Oy gevald … yeah, thanks for THAT mental image. Excuse me while I go seek some professional-grade brain bleach…

31 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 4:10:44pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Russia says it backs transparent international probe of jet crash in Ukraine

Pffft. Tell me another one.

Do as I say, not as I do…etc.

32 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 4:11:09pm

re: #30 Archangelus

Oy gevald … yeah, thanks for THAT mental image. Excuse me while I go seek some professional-grade brain bleach…

Wait up for me!

/

33 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 4:11:30pm

re: #29 Pie-onist Overlord

SNOWDEN: HEY!!!! I’M HERE WITH TEH WHIPPED CREAM & CHOCOLATE SPRINKLES & NOBODY IS LICKING MY BALLS. WHERE IS ALL TEH EVERYBODYS???? HERE’S MY BALLS, HERE!!!!!

Maybe Pierre’s First Look employee, Matt Taibbi, can call up a few of his old flames in Russia for Eddie?

…What’s nice about Russian girls is you don’t have to talk too much, you can pretend that you don’t understand Russian. And they’re usually so drunk. They like to have fun, they like adventure and they like doing things that are reckless.”

“They like to live while they’re still young and attractive,” said Mr. Taibbi. “They look at their mothers, who turn into nose tackles at age 30.”

observer.com

Classy.

34 Teukka  Jul 20, 2014 4:13:34pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Russia says it backs transparent international probe of jet crash in Ukraine

Pffft. Tell me another one.

Yeah. Right.

35 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 4:15:38pm

re: #15 BeachDem

I often say that after J-school, I chose the more honorable profession of advertising, where there are still some requirements for telling the truth.

Wall Street Journal had a front page “article” on their print edition this week about the epic popularity of ranch salad dressing (not kidding). a couple paragraphs in it became obvious that it was an advertizement for Clorox who owns a salad dressing manufacturer (again, not kidding). Journalism ain’t what it used to be.

36 BeachDem  Jul 20, 2014 4:16:26pm

Sort of on topic. Have any of you ever seen the “Ethics in America” series? It’s about 25 years old, but many of the issues are still so relevant today. Cynthia McFadden was the producer and it was a series of roundtable discussion about ethical issues where they’d set up a hypothetical and then build on it. It was (and is) a fascinating series. And you get to see people like Scalia, Newt, Rudy G (with hair) being as asshatty then as they are now. (Also, Jeff Greenfield, Ellen Goodman and scores of others who come across very well.)

I’ve been re-watching some of them and I highly recommend the entire series. All viewable here:

learner.org

37 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 4:16:34pm

There aren’t many Woodwards and Bernsteins left these days.

38 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 4:18:53pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

There aren’t many Woodwards and Bernsteins left these days.

MATT TAIBBI AND ALL OTHER FIRST LOOK PEOPLE ARE THE BEST JOURNALISTS ALIVE TODAY!!

“We wrote a whole bunch of editorials about the size of Putin’s penis,” said Mr. Taibbi.

39 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 4:21:09pm

I had to check to make sure I wasn’t dreaming. Yes, this was on the front page of the print edition
You Can’t Corral Some Folks’ Taste for Ranch Dressing

At the top of the ranch heap is Hidden Valley, a brand owned by Clorox Co. CLX +0.23% Sales of its dressings, which also include Italian and other varieties, outpace the company’s eponymous bleach by a drop. In the 52 weeks that ended June 22, the company says, Clorox pulled in $442 million from U.S. sales of Hidden Valley, compared with $441 million from retail sales of the disinfectant.

Hidden Valley says the dressing was created in the 1950s by the owners of a California dude ranch known as Hidden Valley Ranch.

MMMMMM! Taste the Clorox in every bite!

40 Joanne  Jul 20, 2014 4:23:21pm

re: #33 b.d.

This is Rolling Stone’s Tiabbi?

41 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 4:24:35pm

re: #25 Pie-onist Overlord

There is this boutique, Hijabee, that I drive by every day on the way home from work.

I have often thought about going in there to buy something, because they have nice things in the window, and it’s almost impossible to find a “Sabbath robe” anywhere, but an abaya looks virtually the same.

That would be awesome. Something small that would mean so much.

I’ve got something in my eye.

42 Archangelus  Jul 20, 2014 4:24:45pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait up for me!

/

Here you go, just be sure not to finish it all (this is a Greenwald comments section after all, medium to high chance that it will be required again)…

43 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2014 4:24:58pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Russia says it backs transparent international probe of jet crash in Ukraine

Pffft. Tell me another one.

Of course. They have the black boxes now.

44 jaunte  Jul 20, 2014 4:25:22pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

“…in 1972, the Clorox Company bought the Hidden Valley Ranch brand for $8 million.”
slate.com

45 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 4:26:56pm

re: #36 BeachDem

Bookmarked. Thanks.

46 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 4:27:24pm

re: #40 Joanne

This is Rolling Stone’s Tiabbi?

He left Rolling Stone and is now with First Look

thewrap.com

Expect for his writing to appear sometime before the year 2020.

47 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 4:28:07pm

re: #44 jaunte

“…in 1972, the Clorox Company bought the Hidden Valley Ranch brand for $8 million.”
slate.com

It may be a hidden valley but I bet it sure is a clean one.

48 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 4:28:41pm

re: #44 jaunte

“…in 1972, the Clorox Company bought the Hidden Valley Ranch brand for $8 million.”
slate.com

Chemical companies make our food. It’s not front page news but it should be.

49 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 4:30:14pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

There aren’t many Woodwards and Bernsteins left these days.

The original Woodward and Bernstein didn’t turn out so hot either, especially the Woodward.

50 b_sharp  Jul 20, 2014 4:30:20pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Chemical companies make our food. It’s not front page news but it should be.

So what?

51 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 4:31:02pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Chemical companies make our food. It’s not front page news but it should be.

Why? It’s not like they’re mixing the chemicals and the food in the same plant. Gad you’re thick.

52 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2014 4:31:04pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Chemical companies make our food. It’s not front page news but it should be.

Food companies make our chemicals.

53 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 4:32:03pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Chemical companies make our food. It’s not front page news but it should be.

Old Monsanto slogan -

“Without chemicals, life itself would not be possible.”

54 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 4:32:07pm

Conglomerate 101

55 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:34:15pm
56 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 20, 2014 4:34:34pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

You do realize the two products - two of many owned and produced by the same holding company - are made in very different facilities? Or is this just another one of those things like your disdain of leftists where the facts don’t matter?

American capitalism in action - it’s publicly held so if you want to change them, buy up stock and go to the shareholder meetings.

57 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:34:52pm
58 Joanne  Jul 20, 2014 4:34:53pm

re: #46 b.d.

He left Rolling Stone and is now with First Look

thewrap.com

Expect for his writing to appear sometime before the year 2020.

After reading that shit he said, I’ll never read him again. I’m stunned.

59 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 4:35:35pm

re: #51 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Why? It’s not like they’re mixing the chemicals and the food in the same plant. Gad you’re thick.

Well now that you mention it, I used to work at BASF Wyandotte. They mixed vitamins and isocyanate* at the same plant.

* Remember Bhopal? Yeah, that stuff.

60 Teukka  Jul 20, 2014 4:36:26pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

Well now that you mention it, I used to work at BASF Wyandotte. They mixed vitamins and isocyanate* at the same plant.

* Remember Bhopal? Yeah, that stuff.

*gulp*

61 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:37:40pm

This fucking guy.

62 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 4:37:50pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

Well now that you mention it, I used to work at BASF Wyandotte. They mixed vitamins and isocyanate* at the same plant.

* Remember Bhopal? Yeah, that stuff.

Exactly what does isocyanate do? Or rather, its commercial purpose?

Still, generally speaking, I can’t imagine they’re producing Clorox and Ranch Dressing in the same building, at least not in the same production areas.

Edit: I saw a documentary about Bhopal a while back. That was an amazing clusterfuck of an operation, and shame on all those who should have been held criminally liable for the deaths and suffering involved.

63 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 4:40:24pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Apparently, “explanatory journalism” means: “radically distort the words of adversaries”

Well, if anyone would know, it would be GG.

64 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:43:16pm
65 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:44:31pm
66 jaunte  Jul 20, 2014 4:45:28pm
67 Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2014 4:52:25pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Of course, there are those who’d rather believe in pro-Israel conspiracies than in the simple fact that companies like NBC ONLY make decisions like this based profit:

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People seem to forget that there is no NBC any longer. There is only Comcast, which owns 100% of NBC.

If people think Comcast is in the “news” business for any reason other than maximizing profit. you’re living in a long past dead century.

68 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 4:53:20pm
69 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:55:38pm

re: #67 Skip Intro

People seem to forget that there is no NBC any longer. There is only Comcast, which owns 100% of NBC.

If people think Comcast is in the “news” business for any reason other than maximizing profit. you’re living in a long past dead century.

Exactly. The idea that they’d pull a reporter out because of some secret conspiracy to make Israel look good is beyond ridiculous.

70 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 4:56:00pm

re: #59 Pie-onist Overlord

Well now that you mention it, I used to work at BASF Wyandotte. They mixed vitamins and isocyanate* at the same plant.

* Remember Bhopal? Yeah, that stuff.

That’s probably industry standard and government approved. Even tested it on rats and everything. All those unpronounceable things on ingredient lists for manufactured food products have to be made in an industrial lab somewhere. Chemical companies have the facilities.

71 ausador  Jul 20, 2014 4:56:36pm

A very bizarre sort of Godwin by William Happer…

“The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler. Carbon dioxide is actually a benefit to the world, and so were the Jews.”

Seriously?

An Exxon funded, professional climate change denialist says what?

72 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 4:59:20pm

re: #71 ausador

I posted that story almost a week ago…

CNBC Climate “Expert” Compares “Demonization of Carbon Dioxide” to the Holocaust

73 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 5:01:26pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

I posted that story almost a week ago…

CNBC Climate “Expert” Compares “Demonization of Carbon Dioxide” to the Holocaust

The mediamatters story is from 7/15 as well. Some of us don’t get news until later.

74 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 5:08:08pm

re: #62 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Exactly what does isocyanate do? Or rather, its commercial purpose?

Still, generally speaking, I can’t imagine they’re producing Clorox and Ranch Dressing in the same building, at least not in the same production areas.

Edit: I saw a documentary about Bhopal a while back. That was an amazing clusterfuck of an operation, and shame on all those who should have been held criminally liable for the deaths and suffering involved.

Isocyanates

75 ausador  Jul 20, 2014 5:08:41pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

I posted that story almost a week ago…

CNBC Climate “Expert” Compares “Demonization of Carbon Dioxide” to the Holocaust

Oops, I have not had a lot free time to keep up with the site lately, guess I missed that one.

76 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2014 5:12:23pm

re: #75 ausador

Oops, I have not had a lot free time to keep up with the site lately, guess I missed that one.

You’re fired!

77 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 20, 2014 5:14:20pm

re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus

You’re fired!

You’re gone in two weeks, as soon as you finish your current projects and train your replacement.

RBS

78 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2014 5:15:14pm

re: #77 RealityBasedSteve

You’re gone in two weeks, as soon as you finish your current projects and train your replacement.

RBS

Just wait until you see how I train my replacement. ;)

79 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 5:19:01pm
80 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 5:21:10pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

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TEH NSA IS EVERYWHERE!

81 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 5:24:04pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

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IT’S LITERALLY JUST LIKE 1984!

82 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 5:25:00pm

re: #80 Rev_Arthur_Belling

TEH NSA IS EVERYWHERE!

THE NSA IS WATCHING US NOT DOING STUFF!

83 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 20, 2014 5:27:39pm

re: #82 b.d.

THE NSA IS WATCHING US NOT DOING STUFF!

The NSA sniped an Ebay auction I wanted to win… they slowed down my packets and they peeked to see what my max was.

84 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 5:28:19pm
85 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 5:30:19pm
86 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 5:35:10pm

Dudebroface.

87 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 20, 2014 5:37:01pm

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

Dudebroface.
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Backpfeifengesicht

88 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 5:39:48pm

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s got a major case of it.

89 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 5:43:47pm

re: #86 Pie-onist Overlord

What is with that half goatee/neckbeard? ugh.

90 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 5:44:46pm

re: #89 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What is with that half goatee/neckbeard? ugh.

I was going to say, is that all the face hair he has been able to grow in the past year? FSB must be putting something in his food.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 5:46:01pm
92 Teukka  Jul 20, 2014 5:47:33pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

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Dudebroitis. Morbus Dudebro.

93 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 5:52:12pm

So, we’ve established that apparently NSA contractors can’t grow facial hair.

Seriously, that extra neck beard fuzz is throwing me off.

94 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 5:55:24pm

re: #93 Rev_Arthur_Belling

So, we’ve established that apparently NSA contractors can’t grow facial hair.

Seriously, that extra neck beard fuzz is throwing me off.

Someone told him the neck mole is unsightly and chicks don’t dig it.

95 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 5:57:21pm

re: #93 Rev_Arthur_Belling

So, we’ve established that apparently NSA contractors can’t grow facial hair.

Seriously, that extra neck beard fuzz is throwing me off.

Russia has 1980 razors.

96 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 5:59:16pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

Russia has 1980 razors.

They might not give Eddie razors or other sharp objects.

97 jaunte  Jul 20, 2014 6:00:21pm

re: #92 Teukka

Dudebroitis. Morbus Dudebro.

Trond Fausa as Torgeir Lien, Lillyhammer

98 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 6:00:30pm

re: #93 Rev_Arthur_Belling

So, we’ve established that apparently NSA contractors can’t grow facial hair.

Seriously, that extra neck beard fuzz is throwing me off.

All their hair grows on the palms of their hands.

99 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 6:01:07pm

Patio grilling. I’m smoking out the neighbs.

100 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 20, 2014 6:01:50pm

re: #62 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Exactly what does isocyanate do? Or rather, its commercial purpose?

…

One use I know of is in some 2K paints (two-component polyurethane) as one of the ingredients in the hardener component. I know this because I used Sherwin-Williams Ultra 7000 2K system to paint one of our cars, our motorcycle and one of my guitars so I read the MSDS very carefully to make sure I knew what I needed for full protection.

Beautiful colors and gloss but very nasty stuff to spray.

101 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 6:06:53pm

re: #100 Odie Hugh Manatee

One use I know of is in some 2K paints (two-component polyurethane) as one of the ingredients in the hardener component. I know this because I used Sherwin-Williams Ultra 7000 2K system to paint one of our cars, our motorcycle and one of my guitars so I read the MSDS very carefully to make sure I knew what I needed for full protection.

Beautiful colors and gloss but very nasty stuff to spray.

I’m curious to know how that guitar looks. :) /guitar geek

102 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 6:08:42pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

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When does Eddie’s dissident eyeglass insurance kick in? He sure is want for a new pair.

103 b_sharp  Jul 20, 2014 6:08:54pm

re: #101 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’m curious to know how that guitar looks. :) /guitar geek

Another guitar geek.

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 6:10:20pm

re: #102 b.d.

When does Eddie’s dissident eyeglass insurance kick in? He sure is want for a new pair.

He needs a new shirt too. I haven’t seen him wear any shirt except for that gray one.

105 Lidane  Jul 20, 2014 6:12:24pm
106 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 6:15:47pm

re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord

He needs a new shirt too. I haven’t seen him wear any shirt except for that gray one.

One would think that Greenwald could at least buy Snowden a new shirt and a new pair of spectacles with his Snowden book/movie monies?

107 b_sharp  Jul 20, 2014 6:17:11pm

re: #106 b.d.

One would think that Greenwald could at least buy Snowden a new shirt and a new pair of spectacles with his Snowden book/movie monies?

That’s too commie for him.

108 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 6:21:00pm

re: #104 Pie-onist Overlord

He needs a new shirt too. I haven’t seen him wear any shirt except for that gray one.

Velcom to da Mother Land.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 6:22:33pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

Velcom to da Mother Land.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA SHIRT WEARS YOU!

110 Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2014 6:24:20pm

Anybody want to talk about what happens when there isn’t enough water to generate hydroelectric power?

Last week, Lake Mead dropped to the lowest levels since the reservoir was filled upon the completion of the Hoover Dam in the 1930s. The Southwest has remained in the grips of an everlasting drought for the past 14 years, forcing waters down more than 130 feet since a high-water mark was last reached in 2000.

The Arizona Spillway at the Hoover Dam is shown on July 17, 2014 in the Lake Mead National Recreation Area, Arizona.

huffingtonpost.com

111 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 6:25:55pm
112 ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2014 6:27:35pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

There aren’t many Woodwards and Bernsteins left these days.

Even Woodward isn’t Woodward any more. He blew it with me with that BS about Obama’s admin threatening him in an email. Plus he carried water for the Bushies regarding the ramped up BS to go to war.

113 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 6:27:41pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

But do you have a neck beard?

114 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 6:28:42pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

arachnoid.com

115 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 6:29:38pm

re: #113 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Right now, kind of, yes. It’s the weekend.

116 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 20, 2014 6:31:52pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Right now, kind of, yes. It’s the weekend.

I do that on weekends too. I hate shaving.

117 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 6:35:52pm
One Crucial Party Has Disappeared From Snowden’s Story

businessinsider.com

Most significantly, Assange — who hosted a TV show on Russia propaganda network RT — has admitted that he advised Snowden to go to Russia and stay there.

“While Venezuela and Ecuador could protect him in the short term, over the long term there could be a change in government. In Russia, he’s safe, he’s well-regarded, and that is not likely to change,” Assange told Janet Reitman of Rolling Stone. “That was my advice to Snowden, that he would be physically safest in Russia.”

Assange reiterated that statement on Twitter in May when WikiLeaks tweeted that “we advised Snowden to take Russia. Not safe elsewhere.”

Funny how Team Edward forgets to mention this part over and over and over again.

118 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 6:35:57pm
119 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 6:36:14pm

I must have missed this if it was posted:

James Garner: Cowboy, soldier, detective, astronaut, race car driver

120 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 6:41:19pm

Water is local, politics is local, the two meet here:

Lake Morena caught in crosshairs of San Diego’s water policy

These stories will become more familiar in coming decades.

Around here people seem not too concerned, though many landscapes are not being watered.

Most people could do with less water in their landscape if they knew anything about plants. One of the stupider habits around here is using those damn leaf blowers to get rid of clippings - clippings that ought to stay on the ground as mulch.

121 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 6:42:50pm

Speaking of local stupidity, the anti-vaxxers are at it again:

Student filmmakers find themselves drawn into the vaccine/autism fray

122 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 6:43:43pm

FWIW, out today:

Common gene variants account for most of the genetic risk for autism

123 ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2014 6:43:48pm

re: #119 freetoken

I must have missed this if it was posted:

James Garner: Cowboy, soldier, detective, astronaut, race car driver

We were talking about that in the overnight into morning thread. I mentioned the auto racing part of his life since I am a racing fan foolio.

124 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 6:48:28pm

re: #117 b.d.

businessinsider.com

Most significantly, Assange — who hosted a TV show on Russia propaganda network RT — has admitted that he advised Snowden to go to Russia and stay there.

Funny how Team Edward forgets to mention this part over and over and over again.

Anybody who takes advice from Assange on going someplace & staying there…

…IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PIT OF STUPIDS.

125 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 6:53:49pm

re: #121 freetoken

Speaking of local stupidity, the anti-vaxxers are at it again:

Student filmmakers find themselves drawn into the vaccine/autism fray

That is a good read.

126 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 6:54:26pm
127 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 6:56:51pm
128 ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2014 6:56:53pm

In regards to Kilgore’s mention of chemicals and food. Anyone remember the posters similar to this back in the early 70s?

Chemical type names for all the ingredients in an egg.

129 allegro  Jul 20, 2014 7:04:03pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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That’s a lot of babysitters for kids at the border who can’t wait to turn themselves in.

130 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 7:06:23pm

Wow, the loons are really raving at me tonight. Just searched on my username on Twitter. Bad craziness. Shut the window immediately; who needs to read that crap? It’s just psychic pollution. These poor people are not well.

131 Lidane  Jul 20, 2014 7:14:06pm

The carrot cake has finally cooled, and I’ve layered and frosted it. Yay me.

Now I just have to get some things together for a recruiter. Now that I finally took a job, the recruiters I had been dealing with have decided to pay attention to me again. I had a long conversation with one on Friday about a marketing communications position here in town with a pretty big named company. If I managed to get hired there, I’d be getting triple what my current job is paying. Yeah, I’m motivated to bust my butt and get her what she needs.

132 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 7:18:02pm

*THROWS DESK*

133 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 20, 2014 7:21:54pm

re: #131 Lidane

The carrot cake has finally cooled, and I’ve layered and frosted it. Yay me.

Now I just have to get some things together for a recruiter. Now that I finally took a job, the recruiters I had been dealing with have decided to pay attention to me again. I had a long conversation with one on Friday about a marketing communications position here in town with a pretty big named company. If I managed to get hired there, I’d be getting triple what my current job is paying. Yeah, I’m motivated to bust my butt and get her what she needs.

She needs a carrot cake?

RBS

134 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 7:24:52pm
135 Lidane  Jul 20, 2014 7:24:54pm

re: #133 RealityBasedSteve

She needs a carrot cake?

RBS

LOL no. I wanted something sweet to take to work this week, so I baked a cake. Haha.

She needs a custom resume, some paperwork giving her the right to represent me (a first from all the recruiters I’ve dealt with) and some other things. That’s what I’m doing now.

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 7:25:53pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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137 Joanne  Jul 20, 2014 7:26:10pm

re: #128 ObserverArt

In regards to Kilgore’s mention of chemicals and food. Anyone remember the posters similar to this back in the early 70s?

Chemical type names for all the ingredients in an egg.

I just read that off and my too freaking smart for my own good hubby says: It’s living. Human?

138 Joanne  Jul 20, 2014 7:27:15pm

re: #133 RealityBasedSteve

She needs a carrot cake?

RBS

I do! I do!!

139 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 20, 2014 7:28:06pm

IDF says no soldier was captured.

140 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 7:31:07pm

It’s basically a PR war. With dead bodies.

141 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 7:32:33pm

Go Bibi! Go Hamas!

boo Israelis. boo Palestinians.

142 lawhawk  Jul 20, 2014 7:33:06pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Wow, the loons are really raving at me tonight. Just searched on my username on Twitter. Bad craziness. Shut the window immediately; who needs to read that crap? It’s just psychic pollution. These poor people are not well.

Not well would be one of the understatements of the day. They’re raving like loons at someone who is so completely irrelevant that they devote an increasing amount of time and energy ranting and raving into the ether about your positions on pretty much everything.

Stay the course!

143 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 7:36:51pm
144 teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2014 7:38:12pm
145 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 7:39:44pm

I am already thinking of tomorrow.

146 Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2014 7:40:17pm

Night Lizardys.

147 b.d.  Jul 20, 2014 7:41:27pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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SE Cupp & Newt Gingrich still get checks from CNN because, for some reason, Crossfire is on the air.

So no, Lemon still has a ways to go.

148 lawhawk  Jul 20, 2014 7:44:28pm

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

A relief that an Israeli soldier wasn’t captured; but it’s apparently the case that Hamas was trying to claim the capture of a soldier they happened to have killed today.

The bloody campaign will continue until either Israel is forced to stop because of the sheer number of civilians killed in Gaza (no matter what the final tally of Hamas members are among the dead) or Hamas realizes that they’ve gone over the edge and need to reel back in before they are truly lost.

And that’s saying something since Hamas will claim victory even when losing hundreds or thousands - all to inflict a few casualties among Israelis. They treat the firing of rockets at Tel Aviv (and the necessary Israeli moves to shelters) as a victory, even when they don’t hit anything or are successfully intercepted by Iron Dome. It’s a perverse view, but one where Hamas has such low expectations that they’re met simply by persisting until the next flare-up. The continued struggle is itself a victory.

That’s once again conflating and confusing restraint for weakness.

Israel is dealing with an entrenched and determined foe, and the kind of urban/subterranean fighting negates much of the technological prowess and advantages of the IDF; it means that Israel will take more casualties. This is a fight on Hamas’ turf where Netenyahu really can’t blink, even though the Israeli govt still holds the cards. So the IDF will continue the fight. For now.

And the dead and injured will continue piling up; until the pressure gets to the point that Israel will have to admit that they didn’t achieve their military goals of cracking Hamas, while Hamas gets to crow for another day (until the next fight erupts).

149 calochortus  Jul 20, 2014 7:50:35pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

I am already thinking of tomorrow.

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It is a well known fact that harnesses break cats.

150 sagehen  Jul 20, 2014 7:54:27pm

re: #128 ObserverArt

In regards to Kilgore’s mention of chemicals and food. Anyone remember the posters similar to this back in the early 70s?

Chemical type names for all the ingredients in an egg.

I did poorly in organic chemisty.

There was the test where we were given diagrams of organic compounds and asked to name them — I called them Bob, Susan, Jim, Lucy…

Not a single right answer other than my own name, but the prof was amused enough to give me a D for creativity. Thank God organic was only 1/4 of the grade, I performed reasonably well on the rest of the units. (also, the only person in class who didn’t have any “accidental” fires or explosions. Points for attention to lab safety.)

151 bratwurst  Jul 20, 2014 7:59:08pm
152 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 8:07:43pm

I didn’t believe the story when I first saw it this morning but it does appear that the UN, after finding rockets stored in a UN school, returned the rockets to Hamas (via local police)
The U.N. agency that runs schools and hospitals in Gaza is supposed to be neutral. But it gave 20 rockets found in one of its buildings to cops who many believe report to Hamas.

153 Kragar  Jul 20, 2014 8:09:48pm
154 sagehen  Jul 20, 2014 8:11:06pm

re: #153 Kragar

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Has Alex Jones ever once believed that any violent action was carried out by whoever the evidence seemed to indicate?

155 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 8:11:31pm

I appreciate the position the UN is in but that’s a little like the UN helping to make sure Mohammed Atta doesn’t miss his flight.

156 Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2014 8:15:32pm
157 sattv4u2  Jul 20, 2014 8:32:20pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Israel, for its part, seems at times unable to distinguish between civilian and military targets

That’s due to where Hamas has their “military”.

158 Joanne  Jul 20, 2014 8:43:42pm

Very interesting article.

159 Gus  Jul 20, 2014 8:43:42pm
160 Killgore Trout  Jul 20, 2014 8:47:37pm

re: #157 sattv4u2


Israel, for its part, seems at times unable to distinguish between civilian and military targets

That’s due to where Hamas has their “military”.

With rockets stored in schools and Hamas operatives being transported in ambulances mistakes are bound to happen.

161 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 20, 2014 8:57:48pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Wonderful! Each of the troops will only have to cover 1.2 miles of the Mexico-Texas border. that should stop those immigrant children all right.

162 Alyosha  Jul 20, 2014 9:03:46pm

re: #161 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Wonderful! Each of the troops will only have to cover 1.2 miles of the Mexico-Texas border. that should stop those immigrant children all right.

And what the hell are they going to do when they intercept migrant children? Disobey Federal law and turn them back? I’m unsure of Perry’s endgame here.

163 Gus  Jul 20, 2014 9:08:44pm

Yousuf Karsh / Photographer / the work / portraits

164 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2014 9:13:13pm

Getting here late, but wanted to share a couple of reminders from 45 years ago today:
Buzz Aldrin saluting the American flag.

165 D Koch  Jul 20, 2014 9:18:02pm

re: #162 Alyosha

How would you even turn them back?

166 piratedan  Jul 20, 2014 9:22:32pm

re: #162 Alyosha

pandering to the rubes is an endgame unto itself as it guarantees one’s place on the GOP griftstravaganza

167 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 20, 2014 9:23:32pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

Getting here late, but wanted to share a couple of reminders from 45 years ago today:
Buzz Aldrin saluting the American flag.

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Typography fanatics will be interested to know that the NYT rarely used (uses?) font sizes larger than 36 pt and reserved (reserves) banner headlines (ones stretching across the front page) for Super-Duper Major News Stories That Will Never Happen Again - Ever! Also, the Times hardly ever devoted(-es) the front page to just one story, unless that story is a SDMNSTWNHA-E!, which the Moon landing definitely was.*

* As it was the first. Later Moon landings happened, but they weren’t the first.

168 teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2014 9:24:07pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

Holy…Living…Fuck!

169 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 9:37:38pm

The world seems to be going crazy. Is it just me, or does it appear as if many little groups are just itching for a big war? Is there something in our makeup that requires us to fight semi-regularly?

170 CuriousLurker  Jul 20, 2014 9:47:08pm

re: #169 freetoken

The world seems to be going crazy. Is it just me, or does it appear as if many little groups are just itching for a big war? Is there something in our makeup that requires us to fight semi-regularly?

If behavior on social media and in blog comments are any indication, then it would seem so. There are instigators galore.

171 Floral Giraffe  Jul 20, 2014 9:49:18pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

If behavior on social media and in blog comments are any indication, then it would seem so. There are instigators galore.

Or, they’re just becoming more visible BECAUSE of social media….

172 CuriousLurker  Jul 20, 2014 9:52:14pm

re: #171 Floral Giraffe

Or, they’re just becoming more visible BECAUSE of social media….

Yep, they’ve always been around, but now they have bullhorns & a wider reach.

173 Alyosha  Jul 20, 2014 9:55:24pm

re: #166 piratedan

pandering to the rubes is an endgame unto itself as it guarantees one’s place on the GOP griftstravaganza

The blatant pandering to the nativists who want to treat the issue like a military option against an invading force I get. But as D Koch pointed out in #165, what can the National Guard really do to stop the influx? They can’t turn them back because it’d be against the law to do so. At some point Perry’s bold step is going to be revealed for the empty gesture it is or worse, as a more efficient means of rounding up migrant children once they cross the border and processing them as per the law.

Surely Perry sees how this backfires. Surely.

I mean, they can’t shoot them either. Right?

174 Gus  Jul 20, 2014 10:10:14pm

Stupid.

175 Gus  Jul 20, 2014 10:10:40pm

Stupid.

176 Gus  Jul 20, 2014 10:11:32pm

Stupid.

177 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 20, 2014 10:13:01pm

re: #174 Gus

Sending three ships across the ocean the wrong way to India was cool. “Man, wouldn’t that be awesome!” is a pretty good reason for a large government program.

Made Spain rich.

178 Gus  Jul 20, 2014 10:17:40pm
179 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 20, 2014 10:21:07pm

“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.” — Albert Einstein
mads.stenfatt.com

180 CuriousLurker  Jul 20, 2014 10:22:59pm

re: #176 Gus

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Stupid.

Dumb & dumber.

181 Alyosha  Jul 20, 2014 10:24:09pm

re: #176 Gus

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Stupid.

I can’t stand the sort of people who look at the cost of a space program and get all pissed off because it’s money that could be better used on Earth. I mean, there’s some truth to the argument but it’s not an excuse not to.

Besides, the people who have absolutely no curiosity about the Universe because ‘there’s nothing there’ and ignores every scientific breakthrough a space program has achieved are the same ones who through their ignorance and selfishness trash the Earth, making the need to colonise other planets merely in order to survive a desperate inevitability.

Stupid.

182 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2014 10:25:18pm

We don’t need to stake our entire future on the continued habitability of this crowded, abused, overheated planet. It seems increasingly likely that recovery from the present environmental crisis will not be possible. Ironically, this is in large part attributable to the influence of dishonest, venal, myopic, science denying luddites. Let them stew in their own toxic juice while people too smart to make the same mistakes escape to build worlds of their own. This is a tremendous task, the greatest in human history. In many ways, starting with the bare fact of proving it could be done, Project Apollo gave us a 50 year head start.

183 Alyosha  Jul 20, 2014 10:26:30pm

We wouldn’t go to Mars just to beat al Qaeda.

That’s just an incidental bonus.

184 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2014 10:29:28pm

re: #183 Alyosha

We wouldn’t go to Mars just to beat al Qaeda.

That’s just an incidental bonus.

Don’t know about AQ’s position on lunar exploration, but I do know that their allies, the Taliban, were the only national government in the world to officially endorse Fox TV’s claim that the landings were faked. I guess they found it singularly threatening.

185 Alyosha  Jul 20, 2014 10:32:53pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel

For reals? Well, it’s an entity that banned kite-flying so it was a safe bet space travel wouldn’t be kosher.

186 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 20, 2014 10:39:09pm

FWIW taken in 1980:

This was my late wife’s favorite picture of me and it is my daughters’ (plural) and my mother’s. Could I ever really have had that much hair? Actually, there were times when I had quite a bit more.

187 D Koch  Jul 20, 2014 10:40:30pm

Josh Barro:

A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey’s on the moon)
I can’t pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey’s on the moon)
Ten years from now I’ll be payin’ still.
(while Whitey’s on the moon)
The man jus’ upped my rent las’ night.
(‘cause Whitey’s on the moon)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but Whitey’s on the moon)
I wonder why he’s uppi’ me?
(‘cause Whitey’s on the moon?)
I wuz already payin’ ‘im fifty a week.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Taxes takin’ my whole damn check,
(with Whitey on the moon)

Video

188 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 20, 2014 10:49:13pm

We can put a man on the Moon, but we still can’t get some people to understand why it was important.

189 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 20, 2014 10:50:33pm

re: #101 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’m curious to know how that guitar looks. :) /guitar geek

Well…

It’s a Jackson Rhoads RR3 that I decided to go nuts on…lol! I pried out the MOTO Mother of Toilet Seat) inlays and replaced them with Indonesian mother of pearl ones that I cut, shaped and polished myself. Then I yanked the Duncan Designed pickups and replaced them with Seymour Duncan pickups (Jazz in neck and TB-4 bridge). Then I yanked the Licensed Jackson ‘Floyd’ and replaced it with a real Floyd Rose Pro trem. That required some face work so I had to throw the paint job on it too.

A better closeup of the paint:

I painted it Lexus Diamond White with PT Cruiser Blue stripes, covered that with a clear that had a touch of Coral Pink pearl and glass flake in it and then hit that with a clear coat. Some finishing sanding and polishing later and it’s perfect. No camera I have can do it justice, it’s just beautiful in the sunlight.

I know it’s a waste of money but it’s my money to waste and I love the way it plays. Now I love the way I made it look too!

190 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 20, 2014 10:53:09pm

re: #189 Odie Hugh Manatee

That is a nice looking guitar! Updinged.

191 Amory Blaine  Jul 20, 2014 11:37:32pm

re: #189 Odie Hugh Manatee

Very nice! Way to take something and really make it your own.

192 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 11:38:39pm

RIP James Garner:

MP3 Audio

193 freetoken  Jul 20, 2014 11:40:23pm

It was one of the few TV shows I remember well from that period, probably because it was syndicated throughout the period of my childhood.

194 sagehen  Jul 20, 2014 11:40:44pm

re: #181 Alyosha

I can’t stand the sort of people who look at the cost of a space program and get all pissed off because it’s money that could be better used on Earth. I mean, there’s some truth to the argument but it’s not an excuse not to.

Besides, the people who have absolutely no curiosity about the Universe because ‘there’s nothing there’ and ignores every scientific breakthrough a space program has achieved are the same ones who through their ignorance and selfishness trash the Earth, making the need to colonise other planets merely in order to survive a desperate inevitability.

Stupid.

Actually, it’s not true that the money could be better used on Earth.

Computers. Velcro. Tang. New useful metal alloys. Water purification, air filtration, UV protection, fuels, weather satellites, satphones, etc etc etc etc. And how many of those patents are open-source because the government doesn’t collect royalties?

(although, there is some truth that maybe not every single dollar was wisely spent.

Old joke. American space program, because 49¢ ballpoints are useless in zero gravity, spends umpteen years and x bazillion dollars developing a special writing implement that blah blah blah. The Russians? Used pencils.)

195 sagehen  Jul 20, 2014 11:44:22pm

re: #185 Alyosha

For reals? Well, it’s an entity that banned kite-flying so it was a safe bet space travel wouldn’t be kosher.

You mean halal. Space travel absolutely is kosher — rabbinical courts have offered opinions on how to figure Sabbath in the space station (go by Houston time); when is Sukkot on Mars (not on the Earth schedule; it’s based on local seasons), etc.

196 teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2014 11:45:59pm

People my age questioning the wisdom of lunar exploration make me want to set fire to a great many desks.

Full disclosure: Josh Barro is 29. I’m 32.

197 sagehen  Jul 20, 2014 11:47:56pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

People my age questioning the wisdom of lunar exploration make me want to set fire to a great many desks.

Full disclosure: Josh Barro is 29. I’m 32.

You and VB this week have revitalized the American desk industry.

198 teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2014 11:48:49pm

re: #197 sagehen

You and VB this week have revitalized the American desk industry.

You can see Alouette’s desk fire from space!

199 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 20, 2014 11:49:35pm

re: #190 wheat-dogghazi

Thanks! I wish it was 24 frets though so I wouldn’t have to ‘stretch’ the high E sometimes when I’m jamming with my wife (she’s a violinist). I also have a Peavey Patriot that I bought new back in the early 80’s that I’m ripping into now. SD Jazz neck and Pearly Gates bridge pickups, push-pull pots (I have the same on my RR3) and undecided on the same trem or changing it out. I’m thinking about doing the EVH thing with the same colors but not decided whether to go blue/white or white/blue. Our Mustang is the Lexus Diamond white and our motorcycle is the PT Cruiser blue, hence the color choices…lol! This one will get a purple pearlescent in the clear along with a touch of glass flake.

The glass flake used is very fine, not the big flake stuff, so it really makes it shine and sparkle but is hard to see from any distance. The Peavey has a maple neck that I sealed in clear poly as I like the slick feel of it. That and it keeps the fretboard looking clean.

Guitars are good habits to have. :)

200 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 20, 2014 11:50:34pm

re: #191 Amory Blaine

Thanks! :)

201 goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2014 11:51:06pm

re: #194 sagehen

Old joke. American space program, because 49¢ ballpoints are useless in zero gravity, spends umpteen years and x bazillion dollars developing a special writing implement that blah blah blah. The Russians? Used pencils.)

There’s no truth behind the joke however.

202 Amory Blaine  Jul 21, 2014 12:15:16am

Good to see you freetoken!

203 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 12:33:45am

re: #199 Odie Hugh Manatee

Where do you do your painting? What equipment do you use? High quality paint jobs on cars, motorbikes and guitars cost an arm and a leg if you go to a commercial shop.

204 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 21, 2014 12:57:30am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi

My good friend has a huge 60’ x 80’ shop that he lets me borrow for the big stuff. I built my own temporary paint booth in an area in it out of 2x4 framing and plastic sheeting. Some large filters and two explosion proof fans for the ventilation and a fresh air respirator to keep me alive. Portable lighting so I can see and a large compressor (and filter/line dryer!) to feed the beast. I have a nice DeVilbiss HVLP gun to shoot with plus some air brush tools.

It’s a hobby, one of many for me. :)

205 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 1:02:27am

re: #204 Odie Hugh Manatee

Sweet! You could make a comfy extra income doing work on the side, you know. Car restoration people are always looking for quality paint jobs, and they often have the cash to spend on them.

206 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 21, 2014 1:12:21am

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah but then my hobby would become work and I’ve done that one already (computer/network builds and service). I have had many offers from friends but I’ve declined them all except for two friends who wanted me to teach them how to paint their cars. Help? No prob! As long as they are doing the work that’s just fine with me! Years ago when I was a single guy, one of my roommates was a painter and he taught me how to do it right. In return I built his 454 in his Chevelle and taught him about high performance engines, intakes, heads, exhaust and cam theory.

I learned a lot of that stuff from a Porsche-Audi dealership I used to wrench for. Can’t beat hands on for an education!

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 1:19:55am

re: #194 sagehen

Old joke. American space program, because 49¢ ballpoints are useless in zero gravity, spends umpteen years and x bazillion dollars developing a special writing implement that blah blah blah. The Russians? Used pencils.)

I understood that the problem with pencils was the graphite dust and broken tips getting into sensitive equipment.

208 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 1:38:33am

re: #206 Odie Hugh Manatee

I know how that goes. My hobby was mucking about with computers and similar tech gear. Then my headmaster asked me to become the school’s IT coordinator, in addition to being a teacher. I managed to do both reasonably well, but after 6 years I was ready to call it quits. Two F/T jobs, one F/T salary just didn’t cut it.

Now I rarely mention I have any IT experience to anyone. I’ve fixed two computers and rescued data from a friend’s hard drive. Computers are back to being a hobby, and I like that situation just fine.

209 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 1:41:46am

re: #195 sagehen

Technically it would be halal but in the local vernacular, kosher has a better flow. Considering I used it to describe Taliban proscriptions I can see how it’s use is a bit jarring in this case ;)

210 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 21, 2014 1:53:21am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi

Yup, as they say: It used to be fun but now it’s a job. I always wanted to be a mechanic so that’s what I aimed for out of high school. When I had that down good I was talked into working for a boat manufacturer where I eventually became the department head of rigging and motors, then moved on to designing their electrical and hydraulic systems (prototype work). Then I was hired as the service manager and head mechanic for one of their dealerships. Once health issues arose, it was off to a new career in computers and that hobby died a quick death. Now mechanics, electronics, machining, painting and stuff like that are my hobbies…lol! Plus guitar playing when I want to lose myself in something for a while.

I just rebuilt the automatic transmission in our Mustang and enjoyed every minute of it. Just think, that used to be work! ;)

211 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 2:28:57am

re: #169 freetoken

The world seems to be going crazy. Is it just me, or does it appear as if many little groups are just itching for a big war? Is there something in our makeup that requires us to fight semi-regularly?

In the words of Cracked, “Humans are social animals, and by that I of course mean we are bred by evolution for group murder.”

Most people divide the world into “Us” and “Them”. “Them” are the avatars of all evil in the world and must be destroyed.

Plus hate makes you high.

With such a plethora of hate addled tiny groups out to save the world it’s not surprising that there’s so much chaos in the world.

212 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 2:42:08am

re: #169 freetoken

The world seems to be going crazy. Is it just me, or does it appear as if many little groups are just itching for a big war? Is there something in our makeup that requires us to fight semi-regularly?

Things aren’t going well for some in power, so they might want to start a big tribal fight as a diversion.

And it is getting sickening in places, I spotted this comment to an article:

We all know that USA, UK and EU want war not just Governments but the majority of its Citizens
They believe the war is great, they believe it is like in the movies, video games, lots of killings, lots of destruction and a happy ending.
Well USA, UK and EU real war is coming and there won’t be a happy ending. There won’t be a reset button to start the game again, once started there will be no end
So I hope all of you that have been calling for Nato intervention, sending nukes are very happy as soon you will all have your wish with WW3 nuclear war following to all the corners of the globe
Amen

— Poster “Purple Rain” in a comment to Bloomberg article in question.

It’s especially chilling for me, because a Putin ally (Markov) threatened both the country I live in (Sweden) and the one I am from (Finland) with starting WWIII if we joined NATO or didn’t back off about Ukraine.

213 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 2:46:24am

re: #212 Teukka

Things aren’t going well for some in power, so they might want to start a big tribal fight as a diversion.

And it is getting sickening in places, I spotted this comment to an article:

It’s especially chilling for me, because a Putin ally (Markov) threatened both the country I live in and the one I am from with starting WWIII if we joined NATO or didn’t back off about ukraine.

If I were Finland, I would join NATO ASAP.

214 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 2:49:42am

re: #213 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If I were Finland, I would join NATO ASAP.

There is talk both in Finland and Sweden about joining NATO now. Very ironically for Putin & Co, there WASN’T (sic(!!)) much of that before Markov began waving his dick around with Finnish and Swedish journo’s.

And I would like to think we can stand our ground a bit against the Russian bear, long enough for reinforcements to arrive.

215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 3:07:19am

re: #214 Teukka

There is talk both in Finland and Sweden about joining NATO now. Very ironically for Putin & Co, there WASN’T (sic(!!)) much of that before Markov began waving his dick around with Finnish and Swedish journo’s.

And I would like to think we can stand our ground a bit against the Russian bear, long enough for reinforcements to arrive.

NATO was created to balance the Warsaw Pact. I think that keeping it on and expanding it up to the borders of Russia was counterproductive.

I think that Russia is too interested in consolidating the old territory of the Russian Empire to worry about threatening/attacking other countries

216 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:12:01am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think that Russia is too interested in consolidating the old territory of the Russian Empire to worry about threatening/attacking other countries

Wait, what? Did you write this seriously? After Russia’s open aggression against Ukraine? And you do know that Finland was a part of the Russian empire, right?

217 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 3:13:15am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

NATO was created to balance the Warsaw Pact. I think that keeping it on and expanding it up to the borders of Russia was counterproductive.

I think that Russia is too interested in consolidating the old territory of the Russian Empire to worry about threatening/attacking other countries

Between 1815 and 1917, Finland was part of the Russian Empire. And if
Foundations of Geopolitics is to be believed, the plans for Finland consist of invasion, followed by giving the southern parts to the Karelian Republic and the northern parts to the Murmansk Oblast.

If they are aiming at restoring the former glory of the Russian Empire, my country of birth is in their crosshairs.

218 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 3:14:57am

re: #216 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wait, what? Did you write this seriously? After Russia’s open aggression against Ukraine? And you do know that Finland was a part of the Russian empire, right?

Yes, and I don’t see FInland as part of their short-term goals, it is way too associated with the West now. They are more fixed on the former Soviet Republics.

219 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:17:05am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes

Then what you wrote was false, sorry.

220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:17:46am

re: #217 Teukka

Stalin tried it, after all.

221 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 3:19:25am

re: #219 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Then what you wrote was false, sorry.

There have been allegations of attempts at stirring separatist sentiments in the Russian minority in Finland. Could be mere sabre-rattling, but a little unnerving considering it isn’t the first time that Modus Operandi has been used.

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 3:19:37am

I wondered why they simply let the USSR fall apart without addressing issues like all the expatriate populations, or matters of dividing up infrastructure and assets…

Now it is clear: people like Putin wanted chaos to reign for a decade or so before they stepped in and promised to restore Law and Order and the Glory of Russia.

223 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:21:33am

re: #221 Teukka

If they ever get to doing it, they’ll start with the Baltic countries. But hopefully the neo-fascist Eurasian project will break its teeth in Ukraine.

224 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:23:49am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Um, there was no long range plan at all, that’s conspiratorial thinking. The mentality of the people at the end of 1980s/beginning of 1990s was very different. The break-up of the USSR was seen differently too. And it happened too fast to settle any of those problems.

225 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 3:25:52am

re: #220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Stalin tried it, after all.

Finland: 25,904 dead or missing, 43,557 wounded, 1,000 captured, 957 civilians in air raids, 20-30 tanks, 62 aircraft, 70,000 total casualties.
Soviet Union:126,875 dead or missing, 188,671 wounded, concussed or burned, 5,572 captured, 3,543 tanks, 261-515 aircraft, 323,000 total casualties.
Source: Wikipedia (English): Winter war.

And those heavy losses were sustained in a mere 3 months.

It ended with the peace of 1944. Finland lost territory, had to pay damages
(IIRC, it took decades to pay it all) and chase the Nazis out of the country. As late as October last year, one of the “surprise packages” the Nazis left behind claimed a life.

226 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 3:28:58am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So break it so they can fix it??

Why not just fix it instead of breaking it!?!?!

Sorry, but I don’t think there was any grandiose plan. Things happened that were out of a lot of peoples control

227 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 3:30:39am

re: #223 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If they ever get to doing it, they’ll start with the Baltic countries. But hopefully the neo-fascist Eurasian project will break its teeth in Ukraine.

However, an attack on the Baltics would be expected, on Finland not so much. As to breaking its teeth, it would require eroding away Putin’s popularity at home, which is high, and there are lot who fully believe the tripe Russian Media and Schools disseminate to the Russian public.

But those teeth will need to be kicked in if we want to avoid a 4th Reich of sorts :(

228 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:31:58am

re: #225 Teukka

Yes. What is significant here is that Stalin’s plan was to make the whole of Finland a Soviet republic. He was “gathering the lands” of the Russian empire. By then Finland was already firmly associated with the West, of course.

“The gathering of the lands” is what Putin has attempted too.

229 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:32:16am

re: #226 sattv4u2

Yup.

230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 3:34:29am

re: #226 sattv4u2

So break it so they can fix it??

Why not just fix it instead of breaking it!?!?!

Sorry, but I don’t think there was any grandiose plan. Things happened that were out of a lot of peoples control

There was nothing to prevent them from sitting down and addressing a lot of open questions, like the status of Russians living beyond the borders of Russia, the Status of Soviet forces, how to divide up assets and infrastructure (like pipelines and oilfields)

But to do so in 1991 would have put Russia at a great disadvantage at the bargaining table. They know that now they have recovered a bit of their strength and status, they are in a better position to start strong-arming their neighbors instead of negotiating with them.

231 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:36:02am

re: #227 Teukka

You don’t need to tell me this, I’m a Russian, I know what the propaganda says ;)

It all depends on the internal Russian affairs, of course, but much more so on the outcome of the Ukrainian adventure. By now we’ve already seen that Putin was not up to sending in the troops, he only managed to pick the fruit that was ripe for picking. That’s a good sign.

232 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 3:46:12am

re: #231 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You don’t need to tell me this, I’m a Russian, I know what the propaganda says ;)

It all depends on the internal Russian affairs, of course, but much more so on the outcome of the Ukrainian adventure. By now we’ve already seen that Putin was not up to sending in the troops, he only managed to pick the fruit that was ripe for picking. That’s a good sign.

I don’t think Putin is just sitting around waiting for fruit top ripen before he picks it

He is actively planting the seeds, nurturing the plants, weeding out the ,, well,, weeds,, THEN harvest the ripened fruit that HE laid out

233 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 3:46:14am

re: #231 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You don’t need to tell me this, I’m a Russian, I know what the propaganda says ;)

It all depends on the internal Russian affairs, of course, but much more so on the outcome of the Ukrainian adventure. By now we’ve already seen that Putin was not up to sending in the troops, he only managed to pick the fruit that was ripe for picking. That’s a good sign.

Well, what I worry about is the Russian admin feeling so pressured they do something silly.

234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 3:49:32am

re: #232 sattv4u2

I don’t think Putin is just sitting around waiting for fruit top ripen before he picks it

He is actively planting the seeds, nurturing the plants, weeding out the ,, well,, weeds,, THEN harvest the ripened fruit that HE laid out

“Protecting the rights of Russian minorities” will be a major theme of future interventions.

235 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 3:50:16am

re: #233 Teukka

Well, what I worry about is the Russian admin feeling so pressured they do something silly.

I think Putin is actually pissed that the Malaysian plane got shot down. It’s a pr nightmare for him. He was doing fine (overall) in his quest to push into eastern Ukraine. Yes, there was some pushback from the west. Some “strongly worded letters” and “hashtags” and even economic sanctions on “friends”, none of which was deterring him from moving forward. But overall, a collective yawn because it wasn’t affecting every day life in most regions of the world

Now, the whole world IS actually watching

236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 3:55:40am

re: #235 sattv4u2

I think Putin is actually pissed that the Malaysian plane got shot down. It’s a pr nightmare for him. He was doing fine (overall) in his quest to push into eastern Ukraine. Yes, there was some pushback from the west. Some “strongly worded letters” and “hastags” and even economic sanctions on “friends”, none of which was deterring him from moving forward. But overall, a collective yawn because it wasn’t affecting every day life in most regions of the world

Now, the whole world IS actually watching

Also, he is fucking with a multi-billion dollar industry and interfering with international travel and commerce.

Human rights are all well and good,, but they are often just talking points. Fucking with a major international industry, however, will not remain without consequences, and going to have repercussions for Putin

237 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:58:54am

re: #232 sattv4u2

I don’t think Putin is just sitting around waiting for fruit top ripen before he picks it

He is actively planting the seeds, nurturing the plants, weeding out the ,, well,, weeds,, THEN harvest the ripened fruit that HE laid out

He wouldn’t have made any move if not for the chaos in Ukraine. Which chaos was not part of any plans.

238 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 3:59:46am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Protecting the rights of Russian minorities” will be a major theme of future interventions.

Or not. Now that everybody knows about the shtick.

239 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 4:04:16am

re: #237 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He wouldn’t have made any move if not for the chaos in Ukraine. Which chaos was not part of any plans.

Knowing that there was (is) a strong and vibrant pro-Russian faction in the Ukraine gave him an easy blueprint for a plan

240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 4:09:27am

re: #238 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Or not. Now that everybody knows about the shtick.

Unfortunately, not just a shtick. Ethnic Russians who were born in states like Lithuania and Estonia find themselves being denied citizenship because they cannot pass a language test. And the Ukranian government also wanted to abolish Russian

These are all issues that should have been resolved peacefully before the USSR was broken up.

241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 4:09:44am

re: #239 sattv4u2

Knowing that there was (is) a strong and vibrant pro-Russian faction in the Ukraine gave him an easy blueprint for a plan

Sure, and knowing is not the same as doing. The point is, this fruit was not laid out by Putin.

Now, the situation in L and D oblasts is his doing. But so far it looks like a big failure.

242 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 4:13:07am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Unfortunately, not just a shtick. Ethnic Russians who were born in states like Lithuania and Estonia find themselves being denied citizenship because they cannot pass a language test.

If they live in this state, they should know the state language.

And the Ukranian government also wanted to abolish Russian

Interesting that you repeat this utterly false bit of Putin’s propaganda here.

These are all issues that should have been resolved peacefully before the USSR was broken up.

It’s like saying “ponies should fart rainbows”. Maybe they should, but it’s not realistic to expect them to.

243 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 4:13:16am

re: #241 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sure, and knowing is not the same as doing. The point is, this fruit was not laid out by Putin.

Now, the situation in L and D oblasts is his doing. But so far it looks like a big failure.

Short term, perhaps

He’s been playing the long game though. This incident (the shooting down of the plane) will pass in time. Not totally, but enough that he’ll be back on track and all systems go soon enough

244 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 21, 2014 4:14:18am

re: #243 sattv4u2

I really don’t get this weird idea that Putin is some kind of mastermind.

245 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 4:15:00am

re: #243 sattv4u2

Ukraine is not asleep at the wheel. The “rebels” don’t have much time left.

246 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 4:15:56am

Off to eat something.

247 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 4:18:25am

re: #244 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I really don’t get this weird idea that Putin is some kind of mastermind.

Who said anything about “mastermind”

I stated he has a plan, he’s sowing seeds to try to make that plan come to fruition. Same as any other head of state, or captain of industry, or Joe average planning their families future

248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 4:29:26am

re: #242 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If they live in this state, they should know the state language.

.

They were born in these countries, they are not like immigrants who come to a new country and can be expected to adapt. It is a touchy issue and a difficult one to resolve. Which is why it was not addressed at all with the demise of the USSR.

Those Russian minorities were once a pampered and favored minority. Now they find themselves subject to discrimination against them. And that seething resentment is the fuel that powers a lot of separatist movements.

249 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 21, 2014 4:31:50am

re: #247 sattv4u2

Who said anything about “mastermind”

I stated he has a plan, he’s sowing seeds to try to make that plan come to fruition. Same as any other head of state, or captain of industry, or Joe average planning their families future

Oh, so what you said means absolutely nothing, then, you basically just said “Putin is a human being”?

250 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 4:34:51am

re: #194 sagehen

Tang

Who actually drinks that shit?

251 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 21, 2014 4:39:40am

re: #250 Pie-onist Overlord

Who actually drinks that shit?

I know a guy who bought like fifty pounds cheap from the estate sale of a survivalist.

Also got a ton of iodine. Literally.

252 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 4:41:12am

Agence France Presse reports 251 bodies and 86 body parts have been located. Dutch investigators have been able to check the bodies in the reefer cars and were satisfied with the storage conditions. Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces were battling separatists in Donetsk.
thestar.com.my

Ukraine president Poroshenko has told Ukrainian forces not to fire weapons within a 40 km radius of the crash site, however. thestar.com.my

253 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 4:59:06am

Libertarians suck so hard. Really, they long for slavery, they think they will all be plantation owners.

254 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:06:25am

Libertarian is all HURR HURR IF FOUNDING FATHER RESTRICTED VOTING THEY HAD A GOOD REASON!!!!!!

255 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:08:07am
256 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:08:59am

If you are citizen of this country, you have skin in the game, regardless of what you own.

257 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 5:15:03am

If you have a problem with people who aren’t landowners or “taxpayers” having a say in our society, then you forfeit any right to call yourself a supporter of democracy. The funny irony though is conservatives would shoot themselves in the foot if they ever got their way with this stupid reactionary bs.

258 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 5:15:51am

Notice with many conservatives, it’s never about expanding freedom and liberty, but about limiting it to a certain group.

259 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:17:14am

WTFITS

260 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:18:37am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They were born in these countries, they are not like immigrants who come to a new country and can be expected to adapt.

That’s the problem right there. They were born in these countries but don’t even know the language. So in some sense they are exactly like immigrants (or immigrant children) who are to be expected to adapt.

Those Russian minorities were once a pampered and favored minority. Now they find themselves subject to discrimination against them. And that seething resentment is the fuel that powers a lot of separatist movements.

Yes, it is surely better to pout at a host country rather than, you know, just learn the fucking language./

Also, for some unfathomable reason they prefer to be allegedly discriminated against in these evil European states instead of flourishing in Russia. Now, why would that be?

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:19:44am
262 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:21:35am

re: #260 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s the problem right there. They were born in these countries but don’t even know the language. So in some sense they exactly like immigrants (or immigrant children) who are to be expected to adapt.

Yes, it is surely better to pout at a host country rather than, you know, just learn the fucking language./

Also, for some unfathomable reason they prefer to be allegedly discriminated against in these evil European states instead of flourishing in Russia. Now, why would that be?

These people were settled there by the Soviets in a conscious policy of Russification, and often given favorable treatment regarding jobs, education, housing and general advancement through the system.

These people are not responsible for Soviet demographic policy.

Have you ever tried learning Estonian?

263 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:21:42am

Libertarians are so fucking full of Teh Stupids.

264 ericblair  Jul 21, 2014 5:22:02am

re: #243 sattv4u2

He’s been playing the long game though. This incident (the shooting down of the plane) will pass in time. Not totally, but enough that he’ll be back on track and all systems go soon enough

The general analyst consensus is that Putin is smart, but an opportunist and there is no great long-term plan besides keeping Putin in power. He reacts, and then his pet think-tanks cook up some great strategic rationale after the fact (which doesn’t make for very coherent political thought if you read some of it).

And actually, the shootdown is going to be around for a long time. This is now a billion-dollar insurance case, with years of lawsuits and investigations. Lawsuits went on for seven years after the Iran Air shootdown until the US settled. They will be looking for everything that ties Russia to the incident, and they’ll be doing this long after the Donetsk People’s Republic is dead and gone.

265 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:22:15am

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

NO silly, anyone paying taxes should have a vote NO taxes NO vote Many problems solved almost overnight #tcot

So just save the sales tax receipt from your next purchase…

266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:24:01am

re: #264 ericblair

And actually, the shootdown is going to be around for a long time. This is now a billion-dollar insurance case, with years of lawsuits and investigations. Lawsuits went on for seven years after the Iran Air shootdown until the US settled. They will be looking for everything that ties Russia to the incident, and they’ll be doing this long after the Donetsk People’s Republic is dead and gone.

Yep, he is messing with the wrong people. They might disregard his human rights record, but they will not forgive or forget this transgression against their business.

267 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:24:28am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So just save the sales tax receipt from your next purchase…

WE SHOULD ABOLISH TEH INCOME TAXES & RAISE TEH SALES TAX!!!!! INCOME TAX IS UNFAIR TO TEH RICHS!!!!! TAX TEH POORS!!!!

“Fair Tax” in a nutshell.

268 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 5:24:55am

Only taxpayers should have a vote? Well good thing that pretty much everyone pays taxes. Stupid right wing fucksticks.

269 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:25:25am

Hey guys, I am two updings short of 40,000…please hit the button and make my day!!!

270 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 5:25:46am

re: #259 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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What he means is that the SS (Schutzstaffel) was essentially the armed branch of the Nazi Party; I don’t know if I’d quite call them a “militia” but they were the “military wing” of the party. To the best of my recollection of Germany’s WWII military history, they weren’t a part of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, the German MIlitary High Command during WWII; as I recall, they answered only to Himmler and Hitler, not the OKW.

271 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 5:26:11am

re: #263 Pie-onist Overlord

These guys are arguing over things that were settled years ago. Do they somehow think we’re going to amend the Constitution and repeal federal law to take voting rights away from people who already them?

That would not go over very well.

272 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:27:22am

In Russia itself, regardless of which minority you belong to, it’s unthinkable that an adult citizen doesn’t know Russian (unless your name is Depardieu).

273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:28:50am

re: #272 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

In Russia itself, regardless of which minority you belong to, it’s unthinkable that an adult citizen doesn’t know Russian (unless your name is Depardieu).

Certainly if you want to advance in your career beyond manual labor or service jobs

274 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:30:43am

re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

These people were settled there by the Soviets in a conscious policy of Russification, and often given favorable treatment regarding jobs, education, housing and general advancement through the system.

These people are not responsible for Soviet demographic policy.

Neither are Estonians.

Have you ever tried learning Estonian?

If I wanted their citizenship, I sure would have attempted to. Moreover, while there may be some questions about this policy towards older people, it’s been what, more than 20 years. The younger generations have no excuse.

275 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 5:32:29am

re: #272 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

In Russia itself, regardless of which minority you belong to, it’s unthinkable that an adult citizen doesn’t know Russian (unless your name is Depardieu).

Uzbeks? Tajikis?

276 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:32:48am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Certainly if you want to advance in your career beyond manual labor or service jobs

And that’s normal. But no, the Baltic states should give their minorities a favorable treatment /

277 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:33:06am

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

Uzbeks? Tajikis?

What about them?

278 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 5:34:02am

re: #264 ericblair

And actually, the shootdown is going to be around for a long time. This is now a billion-dollar insurance case, with years of lawsuits and investigations

And that’s the point

The average Joe On The Street will quickly lose interest as the lawyers battle for years on end

Lawsuits went on for seven years after the Iran Air shootdown until the US settled

Exactly. And shortly after the incident the next time people really cared was once it was settled, and even then it was a news story for a short time only

279 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:35:32am

re: #278 sattv4u2

True, but it’s a drip-drip-drip/bad karma kind of thing.

280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:36:55am

re: #279 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

True, but it’s a drip-drip-drip/bad karma kind of thing.

Putin has pissed off the wrong people. He can laugh and shrug off the UN or EU all he wants, but when airline industry bosses gang up him, they know how to make things uncomfortable for him.

281 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 5:37:50am

re: #274 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Neither are Estonians.

If I wanted their citizenship, I sure would have attempted to. Moreover, while there may be some questions about this policy towards older people, it’s been what, more than 20 years. The younger generations have no excuse.

Again, it is a question that they could have and should have resolved in 1991, but they left it an open sore. There is no excuse for it.

282 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:38:23am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not sure why they would have any special power over Poo.

283 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:39:37am

re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Again, it is a question that they could have and should have resolved in 1991, but they left it an open sore. There is no excuse for it.

Again, it’s a question that could not have been resolved.

284 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 5:40:41am

re: #279 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

True, but it’s a drip-drip-drip/bad karma kind of thing.

Oh no doubt

285 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 5:42:22am

re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

re: #282 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Not sure why they would have any special power over Poo.

Exactly

People will still want to travel in and out of Russia (hopefully not flying over the territory where the fighting is anymore)

286 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 5:58:13am

re: #270 Dr Lizardo

What he means is that the SS (Schutzstaffel) was essentially the armed branch of the Nazi Party; I don’t know if I’d quite call them a “militia” but they were the “military wing” of the party. To the best of my recollection of Germany’s WWII military history, they weren’t a part of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, the German MIlitary High Command during WWII; as I recall, they answered only to Himmler and Hitler, not the OKW.

My own impression on the ‘armed militia’ aspect of the claim made is that when the National Socialists had organised themselves sufficiently, their ranks swelled by WWI vets, they formed armed units using military materiel that had been misappropriated during the chaos of the postwar years. Communists had arms too, it was just the natural evolution of the political upheaval of the time. The militia in question is most likely the SA brownshirts. Early Nazi propaganda is replete with gun poseurs and pr0n.

287 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 5:59:23am

Interesting posters: yaronimus.wordpress.com

288 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:00:54am

re: #286 Alyosha

Ironically, Hitler had to put down the very Stormtroopers who carried him to power during the Night of the Long Knives because they were a little too revolutionary even for his tastes.

289 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 6:02:44am

re: #263 Pie-onist Overlord

Besides the fact that everyone is paying taxes, whether it is federal motor fuels, payroll (FICA/SS), and a variety of state taxes (sales, motor fuel, property). So, even if someone is on SS, they’re paying taxes. Anyone going into stores to buy cigarettes is paying tax (fed and state). Pay for utilities? There’s taxes on that too. Phone service? There’s a tax for that.

The fact is that paying tax is inescapable. Everyone pays, even illegal aliens. Not everyone pays income taxes at the federal or state level - though if you’re required to file withholding, the feds will withhold a percentage of your income, which will be refunded if your tax obligation is less than what you owe.

These nutters conflate the fact that not everyone pays income tax with all the other taxes that they do pay.

290 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 6:07:56am

The morning cute:

291 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 6:08:38am

re: #290 lawhawk

The morning cute:

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You otter make that your avatar!!

292 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 6:11:56am

re: #291 sattv4u2

You otter make that your avatar!!

*whack*

293 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:17:48am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Also, he is fucking with a multi-billion dollar industry and interfering with international travel and commerce.

Human rights are all well and good,, but they are often just talking points. Fucking with a major international industry, however, will not remain without consequences, and going to have repercussions for Putin

And he had Western Europe sort of standing by while he chewed on the rest of the Ukraine. This event caused by his pet separatists has the citizenry majorly pissed off now.

294 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 6:18:34am

NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN.
And what is “prayerful” Ted Cruz praying for? He’s PRAYING THAT POOR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
How Jesusy of him.

295 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:22:22am

I’ve never seen a photo of Abraham Lincoln praying either.

296 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:22:54am

re: #260 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s the problem right there. They were born in these countries but don’t even know the language. So in some sense they are exactly like immigrants (or immigrant children) who are to be expected to adapt.

Yes, it is surely better to pout at a host country rather than, you know, just learn the fucking language./

Also, for some unfathomable reason they prefer to be allegedly discriminated against in these evil European states instead of flourishing in Russia. Now, why would that be?

Would they flourish if they went back to Russia?

297 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:25:01am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen a photo of Abraham Lincoln praying either.

It’s that damnable Illinois.

Personally, I reckon President Obama’s an unbeliever wearing the mantle of godliness that the office seems to require.

298 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:25:55am

Cruz talks about faith but what has he actually done to back up his talk of piety? Cruz’s whole schtick is repealing Obamacare. Well how very Christian of you Ted, Ted who possesses and has shown no desire to give up health insurance paid for by the U.S taxpayer to go after other people’s health insurance.

299 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:26:54am

Frankly the whole essence of modern conservatism is about restricting freedoms and liberties not expanding them and that’s why conservatism as we know it is such a morally bankrupt ideology.

300 Aqua Obama  Jul 21, 2014 6:27:46am

re: #297 Alyosha

It’s that damnable Illinois.

Personally, I reckon President Obama’s an unbeliever wearing the mantle of godliness that the office seems to require.

John Quincy Adams didn’t even try to feign the act, and that was almost 200 years ago.

301 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 6:28:27am

re: #296 Feline Fearless Leader

Would they flourish if they went back to Russia?

I doubt that.

302 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 6:28:52am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

Cruz talks about faith but what has he actually done to back up his talk of piety? Cruz’s whole schtick is repealing Obamacare. Well how very Christian of you Ted, Ted who possesses and has shown no desire to give up health insurance paid for by the U.S taxpayer to go after other people’s health insurance.

Cruz is so oozingly sanctimonious, like one of those televangelists, that I wonder how soon it will be before he gets caught in some scandal or other.

303 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 6:29:09am

re: #294 Pie-onist Overlord

NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN.
And what is “prayerful” Ted Cruz praying for? He’s PRAYING THAT POOR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
How Jesusy of him.

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King James Bible - Matthew 6:6

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

I guess it is just another Christian that likes the demonstration of how devout Cruz and the others are even if it is against the teachings.

And while on the subject…I never ever got the whole hands up with the pained face expression looking toward heaven thing in many a fundamental church. More demonstration to those around of how saved you are going to be.

304 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:29:40am

re: #302 wheat-dogghazi

Cruz is so oozingly sanctimonious, like one of those televangelists, that I wonder how soon it will be before he gets caught in some scandal or other.

I think it will be right around the time he officially announces his run for president.

305 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 6:29:41am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen a photo of Abraham Lincoln praying either.

Image: ABRAHAM-LINCOLN-PRAYING-OVAL-OFFICE.jpg

You’re welcome

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306 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:29:53am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Frankly the whole essence of modern conservatism is about restricting freedoms and liberties not expanding them and that’s why conservatism as we know it is such a morally bankrupt ideology.

And it has the accompanying demagoguery about race war since it hides the class war that is the real underpinnings. And they have enough fools convinced that if the conservatives win they’ll be the overseers and masters on the outside of the wire instead of being inside the wire along with the majority of everyone else. And even then they’d willingly be trustees or stoolies since the mindset is such that there has to be an underclass below them in order to keep their egos propped up.
(spit)

307 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:31:33am

re: #301 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I doubt that.

That’s what I figured. So they’re caught between a rock and a hard place. Which would partially explain a willingness to get fanatical, or to buy into being willing pawns in Putin’s games.

308 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:31:38am

re: #300 Aqua Obama

John Quincy Adams didn’t even try to feign the act, and that was almost 200 years ago.

Times was diff’rent back then.

Seriously though, I don’t know much of his history, but I imagine the tradition was still strongly deist. Remembering the blood-wringing that went on in Europe in the 17th century and why America required that brilliant ‘wall of separation’.

309 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:32:13am

re: #305 sattv4u2

Image: ABRAHAM-LINCOLN-PRAYING-OVAL-OFFICE.jpg

You’re welcome

//

Fair enough but the point is we don’t elect these people to pray, we elect them to lead. People like the twit that VB was quoting expect our leaders to be devout Christians. IF we have great leaders who happen to be devout Christians so be it and if they happen to be atheists too, so be it.

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:33:00am

re: #305 sattv4u2

Image: ABRAHAM-LINCOLN-PRAYING-OVAL-OFFICE.jpg

You’re welcome

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I expected you were going to pull out a McNaughton.

Lincoln probably did all his praying in church, or totally in private.

311 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:33:45am

re: #305 sattv4u2

Image: ABRAHAM-LINCOLN-PRAYING-OVAL-OFFICE.jpg

You’re welcome

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Lunges helped defeat the Confederacy.

312 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 6:35:43am

re: #311 Alyosha

Lunges helped defeat the Confederacy.

His pilates class was killer from what I hear

313 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:37:22am

re: #312 sattv4u2

His pilates class was killer from what I hear

While Jefferson Davis was content to lift a medicine ball from toe to sternum but a score a day…

314 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 6:39:23am

re: #311 Alyosha

Lunges helped defeat the Confederacy.

Chances are good some poor artist’s assistant had to stay in that position while the artist got it down on canvas and then Lincoln sat for a few moments to get his head right. That is if he didn’t already have other Lincoln images to work from…like a previous painting.

315 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 6:40:17am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Frankly the whole essence of modern conservatism is about restricting freedoms and liberties not expanding them and that’s why conservatism as we know it is such a morally bankrupt ideology.

THIS.

The modern conservative movement is all about taking hard fought rights away from people. Just look at their antipathy to the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts, for fuck’s sake. Some of them want to take away a woman’s right to vote, or to end the direct election of Senators. I’ve even seen some freaks online arguing that the 14th Amendment was the worst thing to happen to blacks because corporations became people and started to oppress them. Yes, really.

When was the last time we fought a war, or passed a Constitutional amendment or whatever to restrict rights? It makes no damned sense. These people are deranged.

316 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 6:41:26am

re: #302 wheat-dogghazi

Cruz is so oozingly sanctimonious, like one of those televangelists, that I wonder how soon it will be before he gets caught in some scandal or other.

Anybody who has any good dirt on that guy is waiting for him to announce a run at the White House. Using it before then would be pointless.

317 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:43:24am

re: #315 Lidane

THIS.

The modern conservative movement is all about taking hard fought rights away from people. Just look at their antipathy to the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts, for fuck’s sake. Some of them want to take away a woman’s right to vote, or to end the direct election of Senators. I’ve even seen some freaks online arguing that the 14th Amendment was the worst thing to happen to blacks because corporations became people and started to oppress them. Yes, really.

When was the last time we fought a war, or passed a Constitutional amendment or whatever to restrict rights? It makes no damned sense. These people are deranged.

or their views on labor rights. Could go on and on but these people are all about what can we take away more so than what can we expand. I still think it was telling that Rove and Bush’s other strategists used opposition to gay marriage to get out the vote in his 2004 re-election campaign and that initiatives like those are what gets out the conservative bloc.

318 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:43:50am

re: #316 Lidane

Anybody who has any good dirt on that guy is waiting for him to announce a run at the White House. Using it before then would be pointless.

I have it on good authority that the guy -scans left and right- wasn’t even born ‘ere!

319 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 6:44:13am

One final image of my friend and a group of amazing sand sculptors at the competition/ festival this past weekend at Revere Beach Massachusetts

Image: 10536710_10203100574407898_1083812364627315156_o.jpg

They are all posing in front of her creation. She is the one sitting, front row, black pants/ shirt

Congrats Debbie. GREAT job

320 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 6:45:22am

I learned something about women’s fashion today:

“Look at what I am wearing! It is a botanist dress, This is a cocktail dress to be worn only standing up maximum four hours! I had three to four people that helped me get into this dress. The NYPD, you must supply me with clothing!”

I did not know that!

321 Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2014 6:47:18am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Fair enough but the point is we don’t elect these people to pray, we elect them to lead. People like the twit that VB was quoting expect our leaders to be devout Christians. IF we have great leaders who happen to be devout Christians so be it and if they happen to be atheists too, so be it.

Article 6 paragraph 3, US Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

322 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:47:51am

I for one can’t wait for Cruz to break the purer than thou’s hearts or for him to actually get nominated and to get totally repudiated at the polls.

323 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:48:08am

re: #321 Eventual Carrion

Article 6 paragraph 3, US Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

SOCIALIST SHARIAH!

324 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 6:48:11am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

I still think it was telling that Rove and Bush’s other strategists used opposition to gay marriage to get out the vote in his 2004 re-election campaign and that initiatives like those are what gets out the conservative bloc.

Rove knows what works:

325 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 6:48:29am

re: #316 Lidane

Anybody who has any good dirt on that guy is waiting for him to announce a run at the White House. Using it before then would be pointless.

We can only hope.

326 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:49:25am

re: #320 Flounder

I’ll take ‘Things a modern day Marie Antoinette might have said’ for five hundred, Alex.

327 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 6:49:52am

re: #319 sattv4u2

One final image of my friend and a group of amazing sand sculptors at the competition/ festival this past weekend at Revere Beach Massachusetts

Image: 10536710_10203100574407898_1083812364627315156_o.jpg

They are all posing in front of her creation. She is the one sitting, front row, black pants/ shirt

Congrats Debbie. GREAT job

And for those that didn’t see the photo I posted yesterday, here’s a better look at her artwork (a lot of the one above is blocked by people)

Image: 10520652_10152276695672333_481313618456128707_n.jpg

328 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 6:49:56am

re: #320 Flounder

That has nothing to do with women’s fashion and everything to do with someone being an asshole.

329 sattv4u2  Jul 21, 2014 6:50:48am

and on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

330 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 6:51:28am

re: #327 sattv4u2

And for those that didn’t see the photo I posted yesterday, here’s a better look at her artwork (a lot of the one above is blocked by people)

Image: 10520652_10152276695672333_481313618456128707_n.jpg

Ah way cool. Always admire the work that people do with sand at the beach.

331 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 21, 2014 6:52:06am

re: #189 Odie Hugh Manatee

Late reply, but very nice work on the guitar! :)

332 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:52:25am

re: #329 sattv4u2

and on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

Does it do that something like a Maneki-neko?

en.wikipedia.org

333 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 6:52:43am

This will ruin your morning, four EMS workers put on leave for not helping a man in cardiac arrest.

A seven-minute video captured the last few minutes of diabetic dad Eric Garner’s life — and the apparent procedural lapses by two medics and two EMTs, sources told The Post.
“It was pretty obvious this patient was in distress,” a source said. “His body was limp and lifeless.”
Yet none of the workers — nor the eight cops on hand — can be seen in the video administering any aid to Garner. One medic at Garner’s side doesn’t even have any of the required equipment on her, such as an oxygen bag or a defibrillator, the source said.

334 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 6:53:19am

re: #328 Lidane

How is that?

335 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 6:54:00am

re: #332 Feline Fearless Leader

Does it do that something like a Maneki-neko?

en.wikipedia.org

Before I clicked the link I was certain that it was going to lead to a Polynesian portal.

336 Killgore Trout  Jul 21, 2014 6:56:27am

re: #327 sattv4u2

And for those that didn’t see the photo I posted yesterday, here’s a better look at her artwork (a lot of the one above is blocked by people)

Image: 10520652_10152276695672333_481313618456128707_n.jpg

Nice!

337 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 6:57:02am

re: #307 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s what I figured. So they’re caught between a rock and a hard place.

With exception of perhaps some old people, who were objectively too old in 1991 to learn the language, no, they are not. On the contrary, they have all the opportunities. Learn the language and become a citizen of a EU country, with all the freedom and democracy this entails. Don’t care much about democracy? Become a Russian citizen. The economic situation is not as good as in Europe, but certainly is bearable. One may not flourish, but one can make a good living. Don’t care about democracy, love Russia, but don’t want to go there because it’s simply more comfortable living in Europe and being a Russian patriot from afar? Tough luck, hypocrite.

But anyway, thousands of non-citizens are getting naturalized each year. The problem will eventually get solved.

338 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 6:59:29am

re: #337 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

With exception of perhaps some old people, who were objectively too old in 1991 to learn the language, no, they are not. On the contrary, they have all the opportunities. Learn the language and become a citizen of a EU country, with all the freedom and democracy this entails. Don’t care much about democracy? Become a Russian citizen. The economic situation is not as good as in Europe, but certainly is bearable. One may not flourish, but one can make a good living. Don’t care about democracy, love Russia, but don’t want to go there because it’s simply more comfortable living in Europe and being a Russian patriot from afar? Tough luck, hypocrite.

But anyway, thousands of non-citizens are getting naturalized each year. The problem will eventually get solved.

But a decent number of them view option 3 as agitating, getting help from the Motherland, getting reabsorbed in it, and then having the inside track to being one of the overlords for the new territory?

339 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 7:05:19am

re: #334 Flounder

How is that?

Because according to that article, she spent the entire time antagonizing the police and being a jerk. What the hell does any of that have to do with what she’s wearing? She’d be just as much of an asshole in a T-shirt and jeans.

340 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 7:05:44am

re: #335 Alyosha

Before I clicked the link I was certain that it was going to lead to a Polynesian portal.

And sitting under the monitor on my desk at work…

Desktop decor

For those curious (from left to right)
1. Photo cut-out of one of the Siamese (17 year-old photo)
2. Toy ammonite. It’s holding a piece of obsidian from a volcano in California.
3. Plastic Maneki-neko purchased in Malaysia. Battery-powered to wave constantly, but battery currently removed since it makes a clicking noise.
4. Trilobite plushee. From a museum just outside of Ithaca, NY.

341 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:09:53am

re: #340 Feline Fearless Leader

3. Plastic Maneki-neko purchased in Malaysia. Battery-powered to wave constantly, but battery currently removed since it makes a clicking noise.

Has this affected your fortunes in any way? ;P

342 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 21, 2014 7:10:30am

re: #340 Feline Fearless Leader

4. Trilobite plushee. From a museum just outside of Ithaca, NY.

WANT! ;)

343 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:10:31am

re: #340 Feline Fearless Leader

Trilobite plushie for the win.

344 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 7:10:52am

re: #338 Feline Fearless Leader

But a decent number of them view option 3 as agitating, getting help from the Motherland, getting reabsorbed in it, and then having the inside track to being one of the overlords for the new territory?

There are those types, like in any immigrant or quasi-immigrant population. I wouldn’t venture any statistical guesses. I’d like to think most Russians who are citizens of those countries are loyal folks who just try to get by like the rest of us. I can’t say much about those that still aren’t citizens.

345 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:13:51am

Jim Bridenstine is a Horrible Human Being

346 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:14:44am

EVERYBODY PAYS 30% SALES TAX!!!! WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG!!!!

347 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 7:15:18am

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

Anyone who argues for a “Fair Tax” or a flat tax or anything that would push the tax burden even further on the middle and lower classes is a total asshole. Simple as that.

348 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:16:34am

Yeah 30% sales tax in a consumer economy. Brilliant.

349 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:17:38am

re: #347 Lidane

Anyone who argues for a “Fair Tax” or a flat tax or anything that would push the tax burden even further on the middle and lower classes is a total asshole. Simple as that.

That’s the whole point. The 1% do not spend most of their income on consumer goods, but the poor do. “Fair Tax” is actually a regressive tax that harms the poor and middle class.

Not to mention that a consumer tax will wreak havoc on the economy. I mean it like the “fair taxers” DON’T WANT PEOPLE TO BUY APPLIANCES, FURNITURE, & NEW CARS.

350 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:19:12am

re: #345 Pie-onist Overlord

Jim Bridenstine is a Horrible Human Being

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And yet, the data is presented in a way that, if you gave it no critical thought whatsoever, would lead you to believe that some genius had helped the world turn a corner on the tax code and usher in a gilded age of prosperity and wonderfulness-ness.

Poof! No IRS! Unicorns for everybody!!!

351 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:20:25am
352 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 7:23:28am

re: #341 Alyosha

3. Plastic Maneki-neko purchased in Malaysia. Battery-powered to wave constantly, but battery currently removed since it makes a clicking noise.

Has this affected your fortunes in any way? ;P

Good question.

353 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:24:40am

Conservatives claim to want to end welfare yet won’t even consider increasing the minimum wages. Sorry conservatives, you can’t complain about people being on welfare when you want to allow employers to pay people dirt wages. Hypocritical dumbasses.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 7:25:09am

re: #342 William Barnett-Lewis

WANT! ;)

museumoftheearth.org

Don’t see it on the store list, but I see a nice Eurypterid.

355 blueraven  Jul 21, 2014 7:25:58am

President Obama to make a statement on Ukraine in about half an hour.
10:50 ET

356 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 7:26:44am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Conservatives claim to want to end welfare yet won’t even consider increasing the minimum wages. Sorry conservatives, you can’t complain about people being on welfare when you want to allow employers to pay people dirt wages. Hypocritical dumbasses.

You misunderstand. Conservatism wants BOTH low wages for workers AND no welfare. They don’t want to pay for anything and they expect to keep everything for themselves, and they justify it because capitalism.

357 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:27:32am

re: #356 Lidane

You misunderstand. Conservatism wants BOTH low wages for workers AND no welfare. They don’t want to pay for anything and they expect to keep everything for themselves, and they justify it because capitalism.

True that. They’re more into feudalism more so than capitalism anyhow though.

358 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:27:48am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Conservatives claim to want to end welfare yet won’t even consider increasing the minimum wages. Sorry conservatives, you can’t complain about people being on welfare when you want to allow employers to pay people dirt wages. Hypocritical dumbasses.

359 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:28:34am

re: #356 Lidane

You misunderstand. Conservatism wants BOTH low wages for workers AND no welfare. They don’t want to pay for anything and they expect to keep everything for themselves, and they justify it because capitalism.

They regard workers as a “business expense” that has to be minimized.

360 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:30:25am

re: #358 Pie-onist Overlord

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It’s true. You might also be a conservative if you think we spend too much on food stamps but think the defense budget shouldn’t even be touched.

361 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 7:32:24am

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

They regard workers as a “business expense” that has to be minimized.

Which only shows that they know just as much about accounting as they do economics. :-P

362 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 7:33:11am

This pic is currently popular among various Russian (national-)patriots:

363 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:33:48am

re: #361 Lidane

Which only shows that they know just as much about accounting as they do economics. :-P

It never occurs to them (as it did to Henry Ford) that workers are also consumers.

364 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:34:46am

re: #362 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Medvedev is more serious than Putin?

365 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 7:35:00am

What’s he supposed to order, one of Michelle’s school means?
This makes no freaking sense.

366 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:36:00am

re: #365 Pie-onist Overlord

What’s he supposed to order, one of Michelle’s school means?
This makes no freaking sense.

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Because Bush went on a hunger strike after 9/11.

367 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:36:01am

re: #365 Pie-onist Overlord

Gotta feed the machine.

368 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 7:36:22am

re: #365 Pie-onist Overlord

HOW DARE OBUMMER EAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE DYING. WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?

369 Bulworth  Jul 21, 2014 7:36:25am

re:
#345

FARE TAX Hurr hurr make poars pay for stuff they buy…

Afterwards: people don’t buy as much stuff or create black markets for everything, revenues collapse.

Hurr hurr we haz deficits debt must cut moar government spending!!11

370 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 7:36:55am

re: #365 Pie-onist Overlord

A wingnut emptyhead tweets nonsense while 298 souls lie smoldering on a debris field.

371 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:37:18am

You know someone is being murdered right now. And what is Nobama doing about it? Nothing!

372 Bulworth  Jul 21, 2014 7:38:41am

re:
#365

I thought the plane crash was a distraction from the crisis on the border of il-eagle invasions.

373 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 7:38:50am

re: #368 Lidane

HOW DARE OBUMMER EAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE DYING. WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS?

He’s fasting! He must be Muslim since this is Ramadan!

374 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:38:58am

POTUS orders a cheeseburger while Putin makes a meal of his fingernails.

Fine with me.

377 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 7:42:09am
378 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 7:43:47am

re: #375 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I live in an area where there are a lot of families with relatives in Russia or Ukraine. One of the larger Russian and Ukrainian communities outside of Brighton Beach. And while the two have been feuding for months, it hasn’t been a visible issue here. The Post Office has had a sign up warning that mail to and from Ukraine is unreliable due to the ongoing strife. But this morning was the first time I saw people flying the Ukrainian flag from their car.

379 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 21, 2014 7:44:19am

re: #327 sattv4u2

That’s incredible, thanks for sharing.

380 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 7:46:35am

Fuck CNN.

381 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2014 7:49:15am

what an asshat…

382 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 7:50:08am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an asshat…

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Tough guy.

383 Alyosha  Jul 21, 2014 7:52:19am

Gotta sleep. Hold the fort. Remember the Alamo… oy!

384 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 7:54:32am

Nice article on plush toys being educational. Also mentions the trilobites, which were a museum exclusive at the time.

ithaca.com

385 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 7:56:03am

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

They regard workers as a “business expense” that has to be minimized.

So much for the “dignity of labor”…you are on a par with paper clips and toner for the copier.

386 Kilroy01  Jul 21, 2014 7:56:20am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least the adults made sure the gun wasn’t loaded.

I do wonder if he is humming Cry of the Valkyries… (I would be)

387 Emoprog Refugee  Jul 21, 2014 7:57:33am

re: #380 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fuck CNN.

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I guess CNN allows the people it covers to invent their own nationalities and titles.
Note to self: if ever a subject of one of CNN’s stories, refer to myself as Mary, Queen of Scots, Prime Minister and resident of St. Kitts, premier aerospace engineer. That should give me an air of authority.
Just wait til Glenn Greensnow figures this out. He and Eddie will be all kinds of journalist spy programmer lawyer dentist experts.

388 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 7:58:13am

But we kept being told how Obama isn’t funding border control/security.

We’ve had interior border checkpoints run by DHS Customs/Border for years. I’ve actually gone through the one outside Tubac, AZ twice when vacationing in AZ. It is odd to see customs that far from the actual border, but they have caught illegals at that location that have managed to cross at other points.

It’s dangerous work for the LEOs, but it also is getting pushback from locals who don’t want to have to deal with checkpoints that inquire about citizenship far from the actual border. There’s actually a push to get rid of them in parts of AZ.

And they have a point - but that these checkpoints exist is pushback that the Administration isn’t going after illegals at all.

389 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 7:58:25am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So much for the “dignity of labor”…you are on a par with paper clips and toner for the copier.

These people haven’t been mid-level managers ever, or for much too long. At that level it is almost *all* about handling people effectively.

390 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 7:59:24am

re: #387 Emoprog Refugee

I guess CNN allows the people it covers to invent their own nationalities and titles.
Note to self: if ever a subject of one of CNN’s stories, refer to myself as Mary, Queen of Scots, Prime Minister and resident of St. Kitts, premier aerospace engineer. That should give me an air of authority.
Just wait til Glenn Greensnow figures this out. He and Eddie will be all kinds of journalist spy programmer lawyer dentist experts.

Doesn’t referring to oneself as “Mary” also require the wearing of the clown shoes and riding a unicycle?
/ ;)

391 BlueSpotinAL  Jul 21, 2014 8:00:11am

re: #310 Feline Fearless Leader

Instead, they pulled a Hong Min Zou instead of a McNaughton: christcenteredmall.com

392 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:00:23am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So much for the “dignity of labor”…you are on a par with paper clips and toner for the copier.

PEOPLE SHOULD WORK JUST FOR TEH WORK ETHIC1!!!!! TEH MONEYS IS A GIFT THAT TEH JRRB CREATOR GIVE OUT OF TEH GOODNESS OF HIS HEART!!!!!!

393 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 8:00:45am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who does he think he is? Door Gunner from FMJ?

394 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 8:02:28am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because a bunch of unaccompanied children fleeing unimaginable horrors are a threat to Texas.

Asshole.

395 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2014 8:03:58am

re: #394 Lidane

Because a bunch of unaccompanied children fleeing unimaginable horrors are a threat to Texas.

Asshole.

396 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:04:36am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh my win.

397 blueraven  Jul 21, 2014 8:04:50am

re: #394 Lidane

Because a bunch of unaccompanied children fleeing unimaginable horrors are a threat to Texas.

Asshole.

Trying to prove he really doesn’t have a heart, regardless of what he said in the 2012 debates.
Or…If you cant beat em, join em.

398 Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2014 8:05:23am
399 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:06:06am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an asshat…

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I don’t know about the rest of the LGF members, but Perry looks more stupid in these images than Michael Dukakis did in the tank. And the tank image was laughed at and derided big time.

I won’t even mention the backwards cap…no explanation for that amount of fool.

400 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 21, 2014 8:06:31am

re: #384 Feline Fearless Leader

Nice article on plush toys being educational. Also mentions the trilobites, which were a museum exclusive at the time.

ithaca.com

Some of my son’s favorite plushies are from giantmicrobes.com - Flu is one of his favorites ;)

401 JustMark  Jul 21, 2014 8:06:42am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I’ve never seen a photo of Abraham Lincoln praying either.

Never seen a photo of Jesus praying either…

402 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:07:23am

re: #398 Charles Johnson

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He’s a broken fucking record.

403 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:07:52am

re: #340 Feline Fearless Leader

Maneki-nekos are popular in China, too. They come in a variety of sizes.

404 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 8:08:25am

re: #387 Emoprog Refugee

I guess CNN allows the people it covers to invent their own nationalities and titles.
Note to self: if ever a subject of one of CNN’s stories, refer to myself as Mary, Queen of Scots, Prime Minister and resident of St. Kitts, premier aerospace engineer. That should give me an air of authority.
Just wait til Glenn Greensnow figures this out. He and Eddie will be all kinds of journalist spy programmer lawyer dentist experts.

If CNN ever interviews me, I shall refer to myself (insert real name here) the First of House Canneto di Caronia, Padishah Emperor of the Known Universe.

405 De Kolta Chair  Jul 21, 2014 8:08:26am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

REDRUM!!!!

406 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:08:36am

re: #399 ObserverArt

I don’t know about the rest of the LGF members, but Perry looks more stupid in these images than Michael Dukakis did in the tank. And the tank image was laughed at and derided big time.

I won’t even mention the backwards cap…no explanation for that amount of fool.

Nothing more pitiful than an aging teen boy. /

407 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:10:02am

Not sure what kind of attitude I find more disgusting. The my country is never wrong attitude or GG’s which is how can I twist a terrible tragedy to attack my country.

408 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:12:15am

WTFITS

409 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:12:19am

re: #400 William Barnett-Lewis

Some of my son’s favorite plushies are from giantmicrobes.com - Flu is one of his favorites ;)

Who knew e-coli could be so darn cute!?

410 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:12:44am

re: #403 wheat-dogghazi

Maneki-nekos are popular in China, too. They come in a variety of sizes.

Except here they are called 金猫 (jinmao - golden cat).

411 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 8:12:58am

re: #400 William Barnett-Lewis

Some of my son’s favorite plushies are from giantmicrobes.com - Flu is one of his favorites ;)

I’ve seen some of the giant microbes in a number of museum gift shops.

412 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:13:10am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

You didn’t know? It’s coupla days old :)

413 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:13:30am

re: #406 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Nothing more pitiful than an aging teen boy. /

I wonder if he has tats???

/

414 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 8:14:07am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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That’s an actual conspiracy theory making the rounds among the Novorossiya separatists and Putin’s useful idiots in the West.

415 Kilroy01  Jul 21, 2014 8:14:23am

re: #381 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an asshat…

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Here is his day dream

416 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:15:33am

Makes you sick looking at Perry. America’s longest tenured governor in our second biggest state which is bigger population wise than many countries.

417 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:15:46am

re: #415 Kilroy01

Here is his day dream
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Send him to Novorossiya, to fight for Jesus against teh ghey.

418 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 8:16:22am

re: #415 Kilroy01

Needs some Wagner.

Youtube Video

419 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 8:16:44am

re: #403 wheat-dogghazi

Maneki-nekos are popular in China, too. They come in a variety of sizes.

Saw a lot of them in Malaysia as well. Generally anywhere there is a ethnic Chinese presence seems to be using them at shops. Which I find sort of interesting given the anti-Japanese bias that I’ve seen as well. My guess is that it sort of established itself without the known connection that it came from Japanese folklore.

And I’ve seen sizes from a few inches to a few feet tall. Different colors and materials (usually plastic or ceramic though). Plus varying degrees of beckoning automation.

420 Aqua Obama  Jul 21, 2014 8:16:46am

AK-47s become hot commodity after U.S. sanctions

421 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:17:12am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Not sure what kind of attitude I find more disgusting. The my country is never wrong attitude or GG’s which is how can I twist a terrible tragedy to attack my country.

All Greenwald needs America for these days is for the marks. Grifter has to grift from someone now doesn’t he? He probably counts himself more a Brazilian. After all, it is a perfect country in every way, especially in politics and societal matters.

/

422 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 21, 2014 8:17:28am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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It’s a good article. This really punctures the fantasy of those who think that Putin is playing some long con or masterminding a series of strategic positions to allow him to get what he wants. The Ukranian stuff has always been more about domestic politics for him than actual gains—it was extraordinarily stupid in terms of actually gaining anything of strategic or economic value.

The lingering question is how does Russia emerge from this locked-in state? How does Putin, even if you imagine he wants to change and hasn’t drunk his own kool-aid, start tamping down the rhetoric? Now that he’s created this paranoid nationalism, if he fails to live up to its demands, he’d be ousted and replaced by someone who would.

423 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 8:17:46am

re: #415 Kilroy01

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn’t find one of ‘em, not one stinkin’ dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like…

Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore (Character)
from Apocalypse Now (1979)

424 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 21, 2014 8:18:48am

re: #423 Flounder

There are some people who won’t know that’s a quote, and since it’s got a racial slur in it you might want to put it into a quote-block.

425 Varek Raith  Jul 21, 2014 8:21:28am

Hey, internet works.

426 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 8:21:28am

re: #424 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Thankyou Obdi.

427 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:21:34am

re: #419 Feline Fearless Leader

Saw a lot of them in Malaysia as well. Generally anywhere there is a ethnic Chinese presence seems to be using them at shops. Which I find sort of interesting given the anti-Japanese bias that I’ve seen as well. My guess is that it sort of established itself without the known connection that it came from Japanese folklore.

And I’ve seen sizes from a few inches to a few feet tall. Different colors and materials (usually plastic or ceramic though). Plus varying degrees of beckoning automation.

Merchants like them as a good luck/good fortune charm. Some double up and put a Laughing Buddha (布袋 budai) on display, too. en.wikipedia.org

I’m sure if you told them the cat has Japanese origins, they’d refuse to believe it, and say the Japanese copied it from China.

428 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 8:23:18am

So the President is currently making a statement about flight MH17, and I have the Flight of the Valkyries playing in the background, coincidence?

429 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 8:26:01am

re: #427 wheat-dogghazi

Merchants like them as a good luck/good fortune charm. Some double up and put a Laughing Buddha (布袋 budai) on display, too. en.wikipedia.org

I’m sure if you told them the cat has Japanese origins, they’d refuse to believe it, and say the Japanese copied it from China.

Heh. Not that they have a monopoly on that sort of behavior.

Edit: I find the back-and-forth behaviors from “not invented here” to “must have been invented here” behaviors alternately amusing or annoying based on my current mood.

430 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 8:28:14am

re: #398 Charles Johnson

Things that did happen after the US shot down the Iranian airliner. We ended up admitting that we did shoot it down after claiming that we initially thought it was an Iranian F-14 on an attack vector. It was a gross error by the Vincennes, her captain, and crew.

Here? The rebels initially claimed they purposefully shot down the civilian airliner, until they realized world opinion would come down hard on them and Vlad Putin. So they went around deleting and denying it ever since. Putin and his supporters in Ukraine have been trying to deny, delay, and defeat investigator attempts to piece together what happened on the scene, and investigators can’t get to examine the wreckage without the Russians essentially looking over their shoulders at every opportunity.

So yeah, just the same. Except that it isn’t.

431 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:29:23am

re: #428 Flounder

Seems to have been a pretty generic, i.e. useless statement. With all respect.

432 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 8:29:39am
433 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:30:22am

re: #432 darthstar

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Hahaha. Well if we’re counting grass blades, he’s a huge hit.

434 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:33:22am
HRABOVE (Ukraine): The Dutch head of a team sent to identify the victims of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 praised the Ukrainian recovery workers who collected hundreds of bodies from a giant swathe of land in a war zone for doing a “hell of a job”.

Peter van Vliet, leader of a three-man team of Dutch body identification experts, the first international investigators to visit the crash area, said his priority would be getting hundreds of bodies now stored in refrigerated rail cars to a location where they can be identified and sent home.

thestar.com.my

The bodies will be removed to Kharkiv, then transferred to the Netherlands. (Reuters) thestar.com.my

435 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:33:35am

Fairtax idiot says what?

436 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:34:12am

re: #432 darthstar

Huge turnout for Steve King’s anti-immigrant rally in Council Bluffs, crowd control tricky.

Damn, he couldn’t even talk some of his own staff and associates to get behind him to fill out the TV camera view.

Pathetic. Anyone think he is even the slightest bit embarrassed by this?

Answer: Fuck no…there has never been embarrassment in Steve King.

437 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:35:00am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord

12:00 Benghazi
13:00 Benghazi
14:00 Benghazi

and so on

438 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 8:35:19am

re: #436 ObserverArt

Damn, he couldn’t even talk some of his own staff and associates to get behind him to fill out the TV camera view.

Pathetic. Anyone think he is even the slightest bit embarrassed by this?

Answer: Fuck no…there has never been embarrassment in Steve King.

I’m sure he’ll claim fear of drones, Benghazi, and fluoridated water all had something to do with the low turnout.
////

439 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:36:40am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord

Fairtax idiot says what?

[I will be tweeting #ObamaScandals every hour. We must continue to highlight the failures of this Administration.#tcot ]

What he really means: I will be chumming the TeaParty waters for idiots all day…it’s all I am good for.

440 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:37:23am

re: #438 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m sure he’ll claim fear of drones, Benghazi, and fluoridated water all had something to do with the low turnout.
////

It was the teeming hordes of diseased, ravening Central American children flowing up from Texas. People were scared and stayed hunkered down in their tornado shelters.

//

441 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:37:40am

re: #430 lawhawk

It was not exactly the same, yes. Although you have failed to accept any legal liability and obligation or to apologize to Iran, just like the “separatists”, and although your vice-president (and future president) was a complete douchebag about this, at least you paid some money (however comically small the sums might have been). On the plus side, you did not get called terrorists for the bombing./rant over

442 Flounder  Jul 21, 2014 8:38:34am

My cat Fat Maggie apparently likes my new boxers.

Mine!

443 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:38:45am

re: #438 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m sure he’ll claim fear of drones, Benghazi, and fluoridated water all had something to do with the low turnout.
////

Or all the cantaloupe-legged Mexicans came and carried them all off!

/

444 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 8:39:09am

re: #437 wheat-dogghazi

12:00 Benghazi
13:00 Benghazi
14:00 Benghazi

and so on

I have to wait another three and a half hours for my Benghazi?

445 Kilroy01  Jul 21, 2014 8:39:22am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord

446 blueraven  Jul 21, 2014 8:39:51am

re: #441 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It was not exactly the same, yes. Although you have failed to accept any legal liability and obligation or to apologize to Iran, just like the “separatists”, and although your vice-president (and future president) was a complete douchebag about this, at least you paid some money (however comically small the sums might have been). On the plus side, you did not get called terrorists for the bombing./rant over

America does not Apologize!

…except for that commie Obama.

//

447 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 8:40:13am

re: #442 Flounder

My cat Fat Maggie apparently likes my new boxers.

Mine!

I got a new pair of hiking boots in the mail. The box, once opened and the shoebox removed, was immediately turned over to the Feline Overlords for immediate occupation - including nice pieces of crinkly packing paper.

448 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 8:41:18am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Notice with many conservatives, it’s never about expanding freedom and liberty, but about limiting it to a certain group.

Actually they don’t care about freedom at all. When a ‘conservative’ or ‘libertarian’ talks about ‘freedom’ they are really taking about power.

Power for them and power for those like them.

449 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:42:33am

re: #446 blueraven

America does not Apologize!

…except for that commie Obama.

//

450 bratwurst  Jul 21, 2014 8:42:38am
451 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 8:43:02am

re: #442 Flounder

My cat Fat Maggie apparently likes my new boxers.

Mine!

See, the problem there was that you thought those were your boxers. Such misunderstandings are quite common where Feline Overlords are concerned.

452 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 8:44:54am

re: #450 bratwurst

I hope Rick Perry succeeds in turning Texas blue in 2016 because of this.

A little purpling in 2014 would be nice too. Please proceed, governor.

453 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 8:45:05am

re: #271 wheat-dogghazi

These guys are arguing over things that were settled years ago. Do they somehow think we’re going to amend the Constitution and repeal federal law to take voting rights away from people who already them?

That would not go over very well.

But we have gunz and teh pansy libtards don’t. So fuck ‘em!

454 Bulworth  Jul 21, 2014 8:45:54am

re:
#435

“Hi, I’m trying to get some attention.”

456 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:46:41am

re: #453 Romantic Heretic

But we have gunz and teh pansy libtards don’t. So fuck ‘em!

The CSA had a similar attitude, and that didn’t work out so well for them.

457 Bulworth  Jul 21, 2014 8:46:45am

re:
#442

Aww, what a sweetie

458 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:47:48am

re: #455 Pie-onist Overlord

What is this I just can’t even:
CATO Institute says:
HURR HURR!!!! THEIR IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE CRISIS!!!! TEH STATISTS JUST WANT UR MONEYS FOR FIXIN’ TEH ROADS & BRIDGES!!!!!

And yet they’ll be the first people complaining when infrascture has problems. It’s the typical conservative/libertarian mindset. Bitch about having to pay for this stuff and then act shocked when it’s under-funded and inefficient.

459 ObserverArt  Jul 21, 2014 8:48:01am

re: #441 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It was not exactly the same, yes. Although you have failed to accept any legal liability and obligation or to apologize to Iran, just like the “separatists”, and although your vice-president (and future president) was a complete douchebag about this, at least you paid some money (however comically small the sums might have been). On the plus side, you did not get called terrorists for the bombing./rant over

Ouch!

Thanks for the cold slap of truth Sergey.

460 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:50:03am

re: #458 HappyWarrior

And yet they’ll be the first people complaining when infrascture has problems. It’s the typical conservative/libertarian mindset. Bitch about having to pay for this stuff and then act shocked when it’s under-funded and inefficient.

HURR HURR MAKIN ME PAY TAXES TO PAY FOR TEH ROADS & BRIDGES & INFRASTRUCTURE IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!!!!

461 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:50:56am

Ayn apparently believe that all rich people are Tony Stark, and they can get wherever they want to go without transportation infrastructure.

462 danarchy  Jul 21, 2014 8:51:23am

re: #456 wheat-dogghazi

The CSA had a similar attitude, and that didn’t work out so well for them.

Everytime I see CSA this is what I think of:

oldenoursefarmgourmet.com

And I get very confused until my brain catches up and parses it correctly.

463 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 8:51:45am
464 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:51:57am

This is the Stupidest Meme of the Day:
Of course the day is not over

465 HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2014 8:52:05am

re: #460 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR MAKIN ME PAY TAXES TO PAY FOR TEH ROADS & BRIDGES & INFRASTRUCTURE IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!!!!
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And yet Ayn had no problem taking disability money.

466 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:53:09am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

And yet Ayn had no problem taking disability money.

HURR HURR SHE PAID IN TO TEH SYSTEM WITH TEH TAXES TEH STATISTS CONFISCATED FROM HER ROYALTIES WHICH SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO KEEP FOR HERSELF!!!!!!

467 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 8:53:37am
468 Bulworth  Jul 21, 2014 8:55:52am

re:
#464

Just seeing ChuckWoolery in this person’s mentions is not giving me lots of confidence in their argument.

469 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 8:57:20am

re: #450 bratwurst

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If he’d done it sooner the 20th Century wouldn’t have gotten in either!

470 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 8:59:14am

Since we’re talking economics and libertarians here, I just finished a lengthy book about the S&L crisis of the late 1980s, written by William Black: The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One.

It covers how Charles Keating, the Keating Five, and the anti-regulation attitudes of the Reagan administration poisoned the waters and let Keating and hundreds of other bank owners fleece the public while lining their own pockets. Black says the “free market” people, like Greenspan, Bernanke, Geithner, and others, all assume everyone is honest, and not crooks. The fact is, as he carefully explains, some of the best swindlers on the surface look like perfectly respectable, upstanding citizens.

It’s a non-partisan attack. Black admits he’s a Democrat, but he blames Clinton and Obama, too, for their willingness to let the bankers and Wall Street walk away scotfree after costing the nation billions of dollars.

He mentioned a book called The Monster: How a Gang of Predatory Lenders and Wall Street Bankers Fleeced America—and Spawned a Global Crisis by William Hudson. That’s next on my reading list.

But first, I just finished my first C.J. Box mystery. I forgot which of you lizards told me about him, but I like his writing and the Wyoming setting. So thanks!

471 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 9:00:25am

re: #460 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR MAKIN ME PAY TAXES TO PAY FOR TEH ROADS & BRIDGES & INFRASTRUCTURE IS TEH SLAVERYS!!!!!!
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I will point out that Ayn Rand is a Marxist so she is an idiot.

I won’t go in to her sexuality but it’s obvious to me. Have you noticed her female protagonists don’t become complete unit they find a ‘Great Man’ to own them, body and soul?

472 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:01:24am

re: #471 Romantic Heretic

I will point out that Ayn Rand is a Marxist so she is an idiot.

I won’t go in to her sexuality but it’s obvious to me. Have you noticed her female protagonists don’t become complete unit they find a ‘Great Man’ to own them, body and soul?

It is clear from her novels that she was a submissive (NTTAWWT)

473 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:02:57am

re: #472 Pie-onist Overlord

It is clear from her novels that she was a submissive (NTTAWWT)

So, if Ayn Rand were the protagonist in 50 Shades of Grey, she would have probably stayed around?

474 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 21, 2014 9:03:06am

re: #471 Romantic Heretic

I will point out that Ayn Rand is a Marxist so she is an idiot.

I won’t go in to her sexuality but it’s obvious to me. Have you noticed her female protagonists don’t become complete unit they find a ‘Great Man’ to own them, body and soul?

I didn’t know Ayn Rand was a Marxist. I thought she sort of created Objectivism.

475 Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2014 9:03:39am

re: #270 Dr Lizardo

What he means is that the SS (Schutzstaffel) was essentially the armed branch of the Nazi Party; I don’t know if I’d quite call them a “militia” but they were the “military wing” of the party. To the best of my recollection of Germany’s WWII military history, they weren’t a part of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, the German MIlitary High Command during WWII; as I recall, they answered only to Himmler and Hitler, not the OKW.

Since the party was the government, I don’t know where he gets the “private militia” from, other than pulling it out of his ass.

476 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:03:39am

Bezler needs psych help ASAP. He reports 20 tanks with USA and NATO flags near Dzerzhinsk. “Soldiers speak English”.
vk.com

477 Stanley Sea  Jul 21, 2014 9:03:41am

re: #445 Kilroy01

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Saudi involvement in the Boston Marathon bombing?

deeeeeeep

478 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:05:22am

re: #474 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I didn’t know Ayn Rand was a Marxist. I thought she sort of created Objectivism self-absorbed, clueless assholes who use her philosophy as an excuse to be self-absorbed, clueless assholes.

479 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2014 9:05:38am

re: #476 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Bezler needs psych help ASAP. He reports 20 tanks with USA and NATO flags near Dzerzhinsk. “Soldiers speak English”.
vk.com

yeah…but do they speak with an accent?
//(channeling Wolf Blitzer)

480 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 9:05:52am

re: #474 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’m being sort of satirical. From my reading Objectivism is the Marxist version of Satanism. The theology is accepted but inverted so bad is good and good is bad.

481 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 9:06:33am

re: #467 Pie-onist Overlord

My comment

482 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:06:41am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah…but do they speak with an accent?
//(channeling Wolf Blitzer)

Thank god he doesn’t see any Israelis around, that would be only fitting./

483 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2014 9:08:24am

Rebranding!!!

484 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 9:08:42am

re: #473 wheat-dogghazi

So, if Ayn Rand were the protagonist in 50 Shades of Grey, she would have probably stayed around?

From what I know probably.

I started 50 Shades of Grey but didn’t finish. As a writer of kinky erotica myself I thought it sucked really badly. The writer knows nothing about the lifestyle and didn’t even make the slightest attempt to research it. Awful, awful work.

485 makeitstop  Jul 21, 2014 9:09:43am

I just saw the damndest thing.

I ran out to the bank and stopped at a local deli on the way back to pick up a sammich for my wife, who is working from home today. While I was there, the local news station carried Obama’s remarks about the Ukrainian situation. The guy on line behind mewas about to pay for his order, and he looked up at the TV on the wall.

I guess he saw the word ‘Russia’ on the screen, and out of nowhere he said ‘Great, now that guy’s going to get us in a war with Russia!’ He glowered at me, threw his money on the counter, grabbed his bag and stomped out of the deli, obviously pissed as hell.

It amazes me that the very sight of Obama on a TV screen can send some people into a frothing rage. WTF is wrong with people?

486 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:09:55am

re: #481 darthstar

MAC is useful only if you have an access to the nearest router. Or if you use some fancy Java applet. Otherwise you can’t do much with a MAC address, since you just don’t see it.

487 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:10:55am

re: #484 Romantic Heretic

I “read” it by subscribing to the Twitter user who was live tweeting her reading of it. I think her twitter account is @luvvie.

488 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2014 9:12:24am

whut??!!

489 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 9:14:15am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

You haven’t seen the new iSpeculum? It’s even bluetooth compatible!

490 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:15:04am

WTF

491 Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2014 9:15:52am

re: #485 makeitstop

I just saw the damndest thing.

I ran out to the bank and stopped at a local deli on the way back to pick up a sammich for my wife, who is working from home today. While I was there, the local news station carried Obama’s remarks about the Ukrainian situation. The guy on line behind mewas about to pay for his order, and he looked up at the TV on the wall.

I guess he saw the word ‘Russia’ on the screen, and out of nowhere he said ‘Great, now that guy’s going to get us in a war with Russia!’ He glowered at me, threw his money on the counter, grabbed his bag and stomped out of the deli, obviously pissed as hell.

It amazes me that the very sight of Obama on a TV screen can send some people into a frothing rage. WTF is wrong with people?

They’re addicts, pure and simple. Addicts with a severe habit are not rational people.

492 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:17:58am

re: #490 Pie-onist Overlord

40 miles is “near”?

493 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:18:26am

Michelle Malkin once again proves what a self-loathing POS she is:

I went to the Google reviews. This expresses the book perfectly:

Malkin’s conclusions are based on flawed sources, poor scholarship, and an incomplete understanding of the topic. This book was shrill; it would have made me laugh if its assertions weren’t so disturbing.

494 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:18:54am

That’s some mighty misleading headline. I thought somebody was killed on the site.

495 The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 21, 2014 9:19:39am

re: #484 Romantic Heretic

From what I know probably.

I started 50 Shades of Grey but didn’t finish. As a writer of kinky erotica myself I thought it sucked really badly. The writer knows nothing about the lifestyle and didn’t even make the slightest attempt to research it. Awful, awful work.

Try the Pervocracy read through of 50 Shades. It’s very incisive about how wrong and awful the books are, but also funny.

496 ericblair  Jul 21, 2014 9:21:17am

re: #441 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It was not exactly the same, yes. Although you have failed to accept any legal liability and obligation or to apologize to Iran, just like the “separatists”, and although your vice-president (and future president) was a complete douchebag about this, at least you paid some money (however comically small the sums might have been). On the plus side, you did not get called terrorists for the bombing./rant over

True, and instead of being imprisoned for essentially gross negligence the Vincennes captain got a medal for it, and George HW Bush was a complete asshole about it for domestic political reasons. Not many people around here are fans of that administration, and nobody’s holding it up as honorable behavior on the US’s part.

Since the MH17 shootdown was a Malaysian airliner flying from the Netherlands shot down over Ukraine with the majority of victims being Dutch citizens, the “US did it too” argument doesn’t seem very relevant. Not everything that happens in the world happens because of the United States, and each country in the world will have its own reaction for its own reasons despite what the US may think or do.

497 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:21:31am

Fischer manages to connect Obama, MH17 and The GHey menace again

498 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 9:22:37am

re: #484 Romantic Heretic

From what I know probably.

I started 50 Shades of Grey but didn’t finish. As a writer of kinky erotica myself I thought it sucked really badly. The writer knows nothing about the lifestyle and didn’t even make the slightest attempt to research it. Awful, awful work.

Fifty Shades is nothing but bad Twilight fan fiction with the names and details changed. That’s it.

I had some friends read through the series and roast it mercilessly as legitimizing domestic abuse and calling it kink. They’re actually in the lifestyle and they hated those books. I’m clueless about BDSM except on an intellectual level (that is, I’ve read about it but don’t have experience with it), so I just took their word for it.

499 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 21, 2014 9:23:23am

re: #493 wheat-dogghazi

Michelle Malkin once again proves what a self-loathing POS she is:

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I went to the Google reviews. This expresses the book perfectly:

In 1942, the Takei family was forced to live in the horse stables of Santa Anita Park before being sent to the Rohwer War Relocation Center for internment in Rohwer, Arkansas.[7][8] The family was later transferred to the Tule Lake War Relocation Center in California.[9] He and his family returned to Los Angeles at the end of World War II.

Michelle Malkin is why we can’t have nice things. Takei actually went through the internment. Malkin has had no hardship in life and spends her time spewing bile from her hate gland and making a nice living doing so. It would be like David Horowitz telling Eli Weisel he should have been glad for the concentration camps.

500 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:25:39am

re: #499 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I googled but couldn’t find what MM said to Takei. Anyone got linky?

501 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:26:20am

re: #500 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I googled but couldn’t find what MM said to Takei. Anyone got linky?

502 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:29:07am

re: #500 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I googled but couldn’t find what MM said to Takei. Anyone got linky?

The tweet refers to MM’s book about why profiling is good, and uses the Japanese internment camps as an example. Takei and his family were internees. I don’t think Malkin and Takei exchanged words — yet.

503 Teukka  Jul 21, 2014 9:29:15am

re: #497 wheat-dogghazi

Fischer manages to connect Obama, MH17 and The GHey menace again

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What the fuck is wrong with this guy? The world is slipping dangerously in the WWIII direction and this retrobulbarly evacuated individual still takes pot shots at the president when trying to provide the commander in chief with a stable platform to act decisively would be priority #1.

*smh*

504 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:29:25am

re: #501 Pie-onist Overlord

You mean, MM said nothing, but a parody account did?

505 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:30:35am

re: #504 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You mean, MM said nothing, but a parody account did?

The parody account was speaking figuratively.

It’s not really a parody account. It’s a fisking of the real MM account/website.

506 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:30:37am

re: #502 wheat-dogghazi

Yes, but I was asking about MM. I figured the parody account was parodying something real. Maybe not.

507 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:31:49am

Another Brilliant Libertarian Solution to Fixing The Roads:

STOP FUNDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

“Private industry will just step right up!!” hurr hurr argle bargle

508 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 21, 2014 9:32:49am

re: #506 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

re: #505 wheat-dogghazi

So that’s not the real Twitchy account? I has a confused.

(My comment still stands, btw. Malkin’s book is odious and she is a wretched excuse for a human being.)

509 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:32:53am

re: #503 Teukka

What the fuck is wrong with this guy? The world is slipping dangerously in the WWIII direction and this retrobulbarly evacuated individual still takes pot shots at the president when trying to provide the commander in chief with a stable platform to act decisively would be priority #1.

*smh*

Everything revolves around Teh Ghey Menace for Fischer.

510 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:33:38am

re: #504 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You mean, MM said nothing, but a parody account did?

It links to an actual book that MM wrote.

511 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 9:33:46am

re: #509 wheat-dogghazi

Everything revolves around Teh Ghey Menace for Fischer.

And bears.

512 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:33:52am

re: #508 Rev_Arthur_Belling

So that’s not the real Twitchy account? I has a confused.

(My comment still stands, btw. Malkin’s book is odious and she is a wretched excuse for a human being.)

No, it’s not. @Twitchydotdum is the giveaway.

513 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:33:53am

re: #502 wheat-dogghazi

The tweet refers to MM’s book about why profiling is good, and uses the Japanese internment camps as an example. Takei and his family were internees. I don’t think Malkin and Takei exchanged words — yet.

OK, I assumed from your words - “Michelle Malkin once again proves what a self-loathing POS she is” - as well as from Arthur’s comment that she said something offensive to Takei.

514 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 21, 2014 9:34:48am

re: #512 wheat-dogghazi

re: #513 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’ll have to invoke Poe’s Law here, and I don’t always look at the @name part of a tweet.

515 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:36:47am

re: #513 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

OK, I assumed from your words - “Michelle Malkin once again proves what a self-loathing POS she is” - as well as from Arthur’s comment that she said something offensive to Takei.

Well, I wasn’t being too clear. Malkin is Asian herself, though not Japanese, so I wonder how understanding she’d be if it were Filipinas being profiled.

516 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 9:36:59am

re: #476 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Bezler needs psych help ASAP. He reports 20 tanks with USA and NATO flags near Dzerzhinsk. “Soldiers speak English”.
vk.com

Clearly, brown acid.

517 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:37:04am

re: #514 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I’ll have to invoke Poe’s Law here, and I don’t always look at the @name part of a tweet.

The book is an actual book, actually written by Ms. Malkin.

518 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 9:37:23am

re: #507 Pie-onist Overlord

Another Brilliant Libertarian Solution to Fixing The Roads:

STOP FUNDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

“Private industry will just step right up!!” hurr hurr argle bargle

Remember, Libertoolians, that corporations are not people, they are collectives, that’s right, groups of people who have voluntarily surrendered some of their individual rights and privileges in order to enjoy the benefits of a collective undertaking.

Why is it that only when people form unions and collectives to bargain with such entities that it is frowned on?

519 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:37:34am

re: #517 Pie-onist Overlord

The book is an actual book, actually written by Ms. Malkin.

Yes, but that’s not news.

520 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:40:27am

re: #515 wheat-dogghazi

Well, I wasn’t being too clear. Malkin is Asian herself, though not Japanese, so I wonder how understanding she’d be if it were Filipinas being profiled.

There are some people that seriously think that only whites can be racists. Clearly Malkin would be an obvious refutation of such a silly thesis.

521 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:41:01am

re: #517 Pie-onist Overlord

The book is an actual book, actually written by Ms. Malkin.

Some people wonder if it’s really her (white) husband writing all the books and columns and MM is merely the front for it. She acts as if she’s not aware that she’s not, you know, a WASP.

522 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 9:41:27am

re: #520 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

There are some people that seriously think that only whites can be racists. Clearly Malkin would be an obvious refutation of such a silly thesis.

No, only Democrats and liberals can be racists!!!

/

523 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 21, 2014 9:43:10am

re: #520 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

There are some people that seriously think that only whites can be racists. Clearly Malkin would be an obvious refutation of such a silly thesis.

Don’t get me started on how racist Chinese can be. Some of them would feel quite at home at a KKK meeting, as long they didn’t take off their hoods.

524 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 21, 2014 9:46:03am

Got an appointment at 1 PM CDT for a conference call with an advocate & marketplace.gov to see if I can somehow get squeezed into a tax credit level of health care. I can afford $9 a month (one person, silver plan, $5 co-pay for my 5 monthly prescriptions.) but not the $450 it is without a tax credit.

Of course this is only happening because of that pond scum Walker turning down Medicare expansion.

525 Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2014 9:46:39am

re: #523 wheat-dogghazi

Don’t get me started on how racist Chinese can be. Some of them would feel quite at home at a KKK meeting, as long they didn’t take off their hoods.

I once had a Chinese boss who would tell me behind closed doors how much she hated Black people and would never hire more than one Black person at a time because she couldn’t trust them. Lovely person. //

526 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 9:48:49am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rebranding!!!

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I found the asshole on Twitter.

527 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 9:48:51am

re: #525 Dr. Matt

I once had a Chinese boss who would tell me behind closed doors how much she hated Black people and would never hire more than one Black person at a time because she couldn’t trust them. Lovely person. //

And this person would try to convince you that she was no racist, just a “racial realist”.

528 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:49:57am

re: #525 Dr. Matt

I once had a Chinese boss who would tell me behind closed doors how much she hated Black people and would never hire more than one Black person at a time because she couldn’t trust them. Lovely person. //

And yet:

chaunceydevega.com

To maintain, continue with, circulate, and support racist practices is an active choice, and also one of tacit consent. Thus, while James Earl Jones’ First World, indigenous, black grandmother, may have been bigoted or prejudiced, she was in no way racist—for racism is a particular and unique sin of white people, whatever their class or social location, in modernity and beyond.

529 Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2014 9:50:40am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

whut??!!

Ugh. What a monster:

Levy, a doctor in the Johns Hopkins Community Medicine system since 1988, took his life in February 2013 amid an investigation which revealed he was using tiny cameras — concealed in pens and key fobs — to record patients.

Hopkins officials had been alerted by a female colleague who noticed a pen camera around Levy’s neck, and police found more than 1,200 video clips and images after searching 10 hard drives at Levy’s Towson-area home, authorities have said.

530 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 9:51:40am

re: #525 Dr. Matt

I once had a Chinese boss who would tell me behind closed doors how much she hated Black people and would never hire more than one Black person at a time because she couldn’t trust them. Lovely person. //

When I was working at the Job From Hell, there was a Black African guy, from Botswana, who said some of the most horrific racist shit against Blacks that I have ever heard. He had lived under Apartheid in South Africa, said he achieved success because “the White man was his role model” and went on and on about American Blacks and their worthlessness.

I don’t understand how the African-American sitting right across from him didn’t smack the living shit out of him.

Imagine my surprise that he also hated Teh Ghey.

531 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 21, 2014 9:52:33am

re: #528 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You are discussing a sort of institutional racism, one which usually favors the dominant ruling classes over the minorities. In the case he was talking about, white people were the ruling classes and blacks were the victims of institutionalized, “legal” racism.

532 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 21, 2014 9:53:28am

Morning fellow Lizards. Finished Sniper Elite 3 over the weekend. Really loving that game series.

533 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 9:54:29am

re: #531 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Except, of course, the guy doesn’t acknowledge the existence of any other form of racism. Which is only too convenient, given how he obviously is a racist himself.

534 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 21, 2014 9:55:26am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rebranding!!!

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In the immortal words of Attorney Joseph Welch:

“Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness…You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

535 Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2014 9:58:41am

Tom Cotton

Tom Cotton is another GOP-bagger twerp. Scrawny little fuck….I’ve taken shits that weighed more than this wimp.

536 Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2014 10:04:44am

re: #530 Pie-onist Overlord

Sadly, prejudice exists everywhere.

I dated a girl that once went on a mini-rant about the Roma, and my retort was a deliberately incendiary rant - using my full command of Third Reich racial ideology and terminology - about her utter worthlessness, being as she was Slavic.

Of course, I didn’t mean it, but I know enough of that kind of nonsense, especially Nazi-era pseudo-scientific racism, to utilize it to make her realize how it feels to be on the receiving end of such twaddle.

She wasn’t too happy to hear it, especially when I repeatedly reminded her that she was an untermensch. As a matter of fact, I recall I ended that Goebbels-esque rant with ‘So now you know how a Gypsy feels every time you open your ignorant piehole.’

She was sputtering, but couldn’t come up with an adequate response. She also stopped using the prejudicial language about the Roma, at least in my presence. Maybe it gave her pause to reflect that not long ago, historically speaking, she and her fellow Slavs were the objects of profound hatred - much the same as the Roma are the objects of some pretty serious hatred from the Czechs from time to time.

537 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 10:05:55am

re: #530 Pie-onist Overlord

When I was working at the Job From Hell, there was a Black African guy, from Botswana, who said some of the most horrific racist shit against Blacks that I have ever heard. He had lived under Apartheid in South Africa, said he achieved success because “the White man was his role model” and went on and on about American Blacks and their worthlessness.

I don’t understand how the African-American sitting right across from him didn’t smack the living shit out of him.

Imagine my surprise that he also hated Teh Ghey.

Uncle Ruckus /

538 wrenchwench  Jul 21, 2014 10:06:13am

re: #535 Dr. Matt

Tom Cotton

Tom Cotton is another GOP-bagger twerp. Scrawny little fuck….I’ve taken shits that weighed more than this wimp.

And I could beat up Michele Bachmann. So what? Isn’t the war of ideas more important?

539 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 10:08:35am

Allegedly Grads firing in Donetsk itself, with both sides blaming each other. Shit.

540 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2014 10:09:09am

re: #507 Pie-onist Overlord

Another Brilliant Libertarian Solution to Fixing The Roads:

STOP FUNDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

“Private industry will just step right up!!” hurr hurr argle bargle

How many privately owned turnpikes are still operating? I know there are still some troll-bridges still going in private hands, but the turnpikes are generally state-controlled now, aren’t they?

541 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 10:10:12am

Today the tweet, that has changed the world, has a 8 month anniversary.

542 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 21, 2014 10:13:38am

re: #540 Feline Fearless Leader

How many privately owned turnpikes are still operating? I know there are still some troll-bridges still going in private hands, but the turnpikes are generally state-controlled now, aren’t they?

Matty the Bridge Troll has not done any maintenance on the Bridge he owns, or the access ramps, all he does is collect the tolls and keep the revenue from the giant toll-free store (which charges retail prices).

543 Varek Raith  Jul 21, 2014 10:14:07am

Lol, Russia claiming an Ukrainian SU-25 shot down the plane.
Yeppers, them ground attack planes and their AA abilities!
e_e

544 gwangung  Jul 21, 2014 10:14:14am

re: #540 Feline Fearless Leader

How many privately owned turnpikes are still operating? I know there are still some troll-bridges still going in private hands, but the turnpikes are generally state-controlled now, aren’t they?

People HATE tolls, and that’s how these projects will be funded.

545 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 21, 2014 10:14:32am

re: #541 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“We meet at 22:30 under the Independence monument. Dress warm, take umbrellas, tea, coffee, good mood and friends. Reposting is encouraged!”

That’s how Maidan began.

546 Dr. Matt  Jul 21, 2014 10:15:34am

re: #538 wrenchwench

And I could beat up Michele Bachmann. So what? Isn’t the war of ideas more important?

Feel better that you got that off your chest, sweety? #derp

547 Mike Lamb  Jul 21, 2014 10:20:48am

re: #526 darthstar

I found the asshole on Twitter.

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Food is a helluva a drug…

548 Kragar  Jul 21, 2014 10:21:52am
549 lawhawk  Jul 21, 2014 10:23:57am

re: #540 Feline Fearless Leader

There are a number of P3I initiatives across the nation. In NYC metro, the Port Authority is partnering with a private entity to build a new Goethals Bridge. It’s a 35 year deal, where the private entity will build and maintain the bridge under contract with the Port Authority.

There are several toll roads across the nation that were done in a similar fashion, including one in Texas (which has been at the forefront of P3I). The problem is that ridership projections have fallen short in some areas, meaning that they’re not getting the volume needed to sustain the private entity’s solvency and the state/govt has to cough up the funds when issues arise.

550 wrenchwench  Jul 21, 2014 10:31:37am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

Feel better that you got that off your chest, sweety? #derp

?

551 blueraven  Jul 21, 2014 10:33:20am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

Feel better that you got that off your chest, sweety? #derp

wait, what?

552 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 10:35:16am

Congratulations, North Korea, for defeating Brazil in the finals of the 2014 FIFA World Cup by a resounding score of 8-1!

Youtube Video

553 darthstar  Jul 21, 2014 10:35:51am

re: #535 Dr. Matt

Tom Cotton

Tom Cotton is another GOP-bagger twerp. Scrawny little fuck….I’ve taken shits that weighed more than this wimp.

You’ve probably taken shits that are more intelligent than him too.

554 Lidane  Jul 21, 2014 10:35:56am

re: #507 Pie-onist Overlord

Another Brilliant Libertarian Solution to Fixing The Roads:

STOP FUNDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

“Private industry will just step right up!!” hurr hurr argle bargle

These are the same morans who advocate for privatizing emergency services and the courts. Because nothing could possibly go wrong if the fire department or the police only responded to those who could pay.

555 Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 21, 2014 12:33:37pm

re: #331 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Late reply myself but thanks! :)

556 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 21, 2014 1:05:04pm

re: #471 Romantic Heretic

I will point out that Ayn Rand is a Marxist so she is an idiot.

I won’t go in to her sexuality but it’s obvious to me. Have you noticed her female protagonists don’t become complete unit they find a ‘Great Man’ to own them, body and soul?

A close friend’s wife booked Ayn Rand’s speaking engagements.

She characterized Rand as “full of shit.”


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