Russian Ministry of Defense, Russia Today Use Debunked Internet Rumors to Lie About Ukraine

Means they don’t have much of a case.
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Russia Today, the Goebbelsian Putinist propaganda channel well-known for its rank dishonesty, has published “10 questions” to Ukraine based on the recent Russian Ministry of Defense press conference.

Questions 8 and 9:

8. Where did the launcher - from the video circulated by Western media and showing a Buk system being moved allegedly from Ukraine to Russia - come from? As the video was made on the territory controlled by Kiev, where was the launcher being transported?
“I’d like to say that the information we have presented here is based on objective and reliable data from various technical systems - unlike the groundless accusations made against Russia,” said Kartopolov.

9. Where is it right now? Why are some of the missiles missing on the launcher? When was the last time a missile was launched from it?

These questions do indeed correspond to the claims made by the MoD officials during the press conference:

[Chief of Staff of the Main Operations Directorate - deputy chief of The General Staff Andrew Kartapolov:] To conclude it I would like to mention that all the concrete information is based on the objective and reliable dates of the different Russian equipment in contrast to the accusations of the US against us made without any evidence.The good example of such fact is that some mass media showed transportation of the Buk-M1 missile system from Ukrainian to Russian territory.We can clearly see that its frame-up.

These pictures were made in the city of Krasnoarmeisk that is confirmed by a banner situated close to the road. This banner has an address of the car shop situated at the Dnepropetrovskaya, 34.

Since May 11 the Krasnoarmeysk city is under control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

That is why we have some questions.

What kind of launching system is it? Where is it transported? Where is it now? Why is it unloaded completely? What was the last time it launched missiles?

To end my speech I would like to emphasize that the Russian Federation did not deliver to the militants any Buk-M1 missiles systems and other equipment.

There are 2 problems with this claim.

1. It’s not true.

2. It comes from an anonymous viral internet text, most probably distributed by the Kremlin trolls and bots.

Moreover, the claim had been debunked long before the press conference took place. For example, on July 20 an authoritative blogger Anatoly Vorobey analyzed the photo of the same Buk made on July 17, and proved beyond doubt (by way of comparison with other photos) that it was made in Torez, i.e. on the territory held by the “separatists”, and thus couldn’t have been on the Ukrainian-controlled territory the next day (when the video was made). Moreover, the claim that one can read the name of the street on the poster in the video is a direct lie, the text on the video is simply unreadable. But the same ad was found online, and the words are not “Dnepropetrovskaya 34”, but rather “natsionalnyj avtodiler” (“national autodealer”).

So the top Russian MoD experts either fell for an internet lie or knowingly repeated it. Either way, they have no credibility.

And RT’s questions can now be reversed: so what was a Buk (the existence of which the “separatists” and Russian officials now strenuously deny, despite the official “separatist” and Russian state news sources having gleefully reported about it at the end of June) was doing on the territory controlled by the “separatists”? Where is one of its missiles? Where was it heading?

Actually we do know the answers to these questions, but it would be interesting to see what new wild excuses the Putinist clowns can come up with.

Further reading:

Update: it has now been confirmed that the video was shot in Lugansk, not Krasnoarmeisk. The Russian Ministry of Defense has some ‘splainin’ to do.

Basically, one can compare this and this with the video (look at the markings in the screenshots above for orientation).

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