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I don’t think the Guardian’s editors fully appreciated the bizarre disconnect between these two pieces on today’s front page.

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1 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:09:41pm

I see I happened to refresh just as a new thread went up.

OT, but I’m in the middle of moving across town this week, and my Internet won’t be transferred until Friday. Meanwhile, my bedding will be moved tomorrow. I’m thinking about setting up an air mattress at the old place until the tubes are relocated.

2 b.d.  Jul 22, 2014 6:09:45pm

Life as a Spy?

I’ll be waiting for that headline to change too.

3 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:10:59pm

On topic: Does Snowden not have teeth? The only time I ever see him smile, it’s that smarmy smile like in the Guardian pic there.

4 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 6:14:42pm

Later, lizards.

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 6:14:44pm

HURR HURR ZIONIST CHECKS!!!!!!
HEY WHERE IS MY ZIONIST CHECK?

6 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 6:17:19pm

Well we know who’s paying Greenwald to badmouth Israel, the US and others he targets.

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 6:19:58pm

re: #1 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I see I happened to refresh just as a new thread went up.

OT, but I’m in the middle of moving across town this week, and my Internet won’t be transferred until Friday. Meanwhile, my bedding will be moved tomorrow. I’m thinking about setting up an air mattress at the old place until the tubes are relocated.

I made sure I had a sleeping bag around for that reason when I moved last month ;)

8 allegro  Jul 22, 2014 6:23:29pm

re: #7 William Barnett-Lewis

I made sure I had a sleeping bag around for that reason when I moved last month ;)

Can you say “addiction”? I knew you could!

/yeah, me too

9 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 6:23:37pm

I’d say slim to none.

10 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:24:20pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d say slim to none.

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Why would he hand them out?

11 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 6:27:21pm

re: #10 b_sharp

Why would he hand them out?

Because SHUT UP!

12 allegro  Jul 22, 2014 6:28:10pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d say slim to none.

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Agreed. The Costco boss clearly respects people.

13 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 6:28:19pm
14 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 6:28:37pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

They probably won’t get a giant canister of beef jerky either, Todd.

15 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 6:29:20pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d say slim to none.

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They can find them in the toilet in place of the Sears Catalog…

16 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 6:29:33pm

What other products is Costco boss withholding from Obama donors?

17 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:30:34pm

re: #15 William Barnett-Lewis

They can find them in the toilet in place of the Sears Catalog…

Might cause a toilet overflow.

18 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 6:30:39pm

No 18-pack of bean burgers for you.

19 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:31:35pm

Obama Didn’t. Even. Try.

20 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 6:32:29pm

re: #13 Kragar

Ha! Succinct.

21 piratedan  Jul 22, 2014 6:34:42pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

Maybe they were burning in the fireplace, gotta recoup costs somehow…. ////

22 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 6:37:06pm

HURR HURR!!!!! WE WILL BOYCOTT TEH SOSHULIST MATH & SCIENCE!!!!!!

23 Donna Ballard  Jul 22, 2014 6:37:59pm

Hi Kids! Lookie, lookie, lookie! RWC aka Daniel, got me my own laptop for my birthday, now I can post without bugging him to vacate the desk top! Woo Hoo!

24 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:38:30pm

re: #22 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!! WE WILL BOYCOTT TEH SOSHULIST MATH & SCIENCE!!!!!!

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They really fear THE ATHEIST AGENDA!!!

25 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 6:38:31pm

re: #22 Pie-onist Overlord

I hear closing your eyes, putting fingers in your ears, and holding your breath is a great way to learn about life, the universe, and everything.

26 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:39:16pm

re: #23 Donna Ballard

Hi Kids! Lookie, lookie, lookie! RWC aka Daniel, got me my own laptop for my birthday, now I can post without bugging him to vacate the desk top! Woo Hoo!

Cool!

Way to go big D.

27 calochortus  Jul 22, 2014 6:40:48pm

re: #10 b_sharp

Why would he hand them out?

Presumably a reference to Costco pulling D’Souza’s book when it wasn’t selling well.

28 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 6:41:02pm

29 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:41:14pm

I will take this opportunity to again tell my Todd Starnes story:
While in the throes of fundamentalism (I got better), I had the opportunity on several occasions to interact with Starnes when he was at Baptist Press, the propaganda arm of the Southern Baptist Convention.

I cannot point to a single example, but I can say that the overall impression of everyone in our office who came in contact with Starnes was that he was a shit-weasel. This was back in the 1990s. I see he’s become even more of one since then.

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 6:41:57pm
31 calochortus  Jul 22, 2014 6:42:41pm

re: #24 b_sharp

They really fear THE ATHEIST AGENDA!!!

You mean the agenda where we leave other people alone to get on with their lives, unless of course they need some help and then we band together through the government to help them?

32 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:43:42pm

re: #27 calochortus

Presumably a reference to Costco pulling D’Souza’s book when it wasn’t selling well.

I know, but it’s a meaningless point he’s trying to make.

Sarcasm should have a touch of snark, a pinch of irony and a shit load of relevance.

33 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 6:44:21pm

re: #28 alpuz

“I’m about as politically incorrect as you can get. I’m wearing an NRA ball cap, eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich, reading a Paula Deen cookbook and sipping a 20-ounce sweet tea while sitting in my Cracker Barrel rocking chair with the Gather Vocal Band singing ‘Jesus Saves’ on the stereo and a Gideon’s Bible in my pocket. Yes sir, I’m politically incorrect and happy as a June bug.”

“[Community Standards]…10 no-no areas for Facebook users: violence and threats, self-harm, bullying and harassment, hate speech, graphic content, nudity and pornography, identity and privacy, intellectual property, phishing and spam and security.”

I think this may qualify as a statement about ‘self-harm.’
washingtonpost.com

34 calochortus  Jul 22, 2014 6:44:47pm

re: #32 b_sharp

They don’t do irony or relevance. It puts them at a serious disadvantage when it comes to sarcasm.

35 allegro  Jul 22, 2014 6:44:54pm

re: #29 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I will take this opportunity to again tell my Todd Starnes story:
While in the throes of fundamentalism (I got better), I had the opportunity on several occasions to interact with Starnes when he was at Baptist Press, the propaganda arm of the Southern Baptist Convention.

I cannot point to a single example, but I can say that the overall impression of everyone in our office who came in contact with Starnes was that he was a shit-weasel. This was back in the 1990s. I see he’s become even more of one since then.

Like a good wildlife biologist, I would say that shit-weasels, like fire ants, have a purpose in the greater biosphere… ‘cept I can’t think of a single one.

36 Romantic Heretic  Jul 22, 2014 6:46:15pm

re: #13 Kragar

Who needs coherency when you have hate?

37 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 6:46:37pm

I’m not trying to be a complete dick here but what’s up with the glasses? They’re showing up everywhere among the conservative blowhards.

Why?

38 calochortus  Jul 22, 2014 6:47:26pm

re: #35 allegro

Like a good wildlife biologist, I would say that shit-weasels, like fire ants, have a purpose in the greater biosphere… ‘cept I can’t think of a single one.

But you have to remember many of them are either introduced or feral, rather than native critters where we find them now.

39 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 6:47:43pm

re: #23 Donna Ballard

Hi Kids! Lookie, lookie, lookie! RWC aka Daniel, got me my own laptop for my birthday, now I can post without bugging him to vacate the desk top! Woo Hoo!

He’ll want to borrow your wireless mouse.

40 Donna Ballard  Jul 22, 2014 6:47:49pm

We used to have a neighbor that collected politically incorrect t-shirts and he wore them all the time! He would deliberately wear one if a one of our more ,um, shall we say more sensitive neighbors was out and about. It was a riot, sometimes literally!

41 Romantic Heretic  Jul 22, 2014 6:47:56pm

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

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Don’t forget they also have public health care.

42 nines09  Jul 22, 2014 6:48:13pm

re: #37 alpuz

I’m not trying to be a complete dick here but what’s up with the glasses? They’re showing up everywhere among the conservative blowhards.

Why?

I’ll take a wild guess. Dicks with glasses get free passes?

43 dog philosopher  Jul 22, 2014 6:48:20pm

re: #28 alpuz

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i’m looking forward to taking advantage of my newly discovered constitutional right to never have anyone ever tell me to shut up and go away

44 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 22, 2014 6:48:24pm

re: #24 b_sharp

They really fear THE ATHEIST AGENDA!!!

Not to be confused with “THE GEHY AGENDA”, which shouldn’t be confused with “The COMMUNIST AGENDA”. With all these different agendas, I’m going to need a bigger day-runner

RBS

45 piratedan  Jul 22, 2014 6:48:37pm

re: #37 alpuz

when you keep saying the stupid shit that Republicans do, you can at least hold on to the facade that glasses supposedly equate with intelligence… that’s the best I got.

46 dog philosopher  Jul 22, 2014 6:48:41pm

re: #35 allegro

Like a good wildlife biologist, I would say that shit-weasels, like fire ants, have a purpose in the greater biosphere… ‘cept I can’t think of a single one.

they fertilize blogs

47 Mattand  Jul 22, 2014 6:49:00pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d say slim to none.

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48 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 6:49:01pm

re: #37 alpuz

I’m not trying to be a complete dick here but what’s up with the glasses? They’re showing up everywhere among the conservative blowhards.

Why?

1. Their eyes are getting older
2. Possible gain in apparent intelligence

49 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:49:11pm

re: #37 alpuz

I’m not trying to be a complete dick here but what’s up with the glasses? They’re showing up everywhere among the conservative blowhards.

Why?

1) It makes them look smarter.
2) They’re getting older and need reading glasses.

This is one reason why I don’t necessarily diss Perry for his new glasses thing. I now need bifocals, but I hate them. So I wear regular strength contacts and reading glasses as well. I’ve tried several different styles, and have found a couple I like. The beauty of reading glasses is they don’t cost much if you don’t like them (~$10 for a decent frame).

Edit: re: #48 jaunte beat me to it, but reversed the order. :)

50 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 6:49:26pm

re: #28 alpuz

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His mother dresses him funny.

51 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:49:49pm

re: #37 alpuz

I’m not trying to be a complete dick here but what’s up with the glasses? They’re showing up everywhere among the conservative blowhards.

Why?

Glasses make you look intelligent, self reflective, contemplative, bookish and nerdish.

They want to be us.

52 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 6:50:53pm

re: #23 Donna Ballard

Hi Kids! Lookie, lookie, lookie! RWC aka Daniel, got me my own laptop for my birthday, now I can post without bugging him to vacate the desk top! Woo Hoo!

Hey, Donna! I just tweeted this photo from earlier to Daniel since he’s been doing hummingbird photos, but I’m sure you’ll apprentice it too.

53 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 6:51:02pm

re: #51 b_sharp

Glasses make you look intelligent, self reflective, contemplative, bookish and nerdish.

They want to be us.

Not always.

54 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 22, 2014 6:51:47pm

re: #49 Rev_Arthur_Belling

1) It makes them look smarter.
2) They’re getting older and need reading glasses.

This is one reason why I don’t necessarily diss Perry for his new glasses thing. I now need bifocals, but I hate them. So I wear regular strength contacts and reading glasses as well. I’ve tried several different styles, and have found a couple I like. The beauty of reading glasses is they don’t cost much if you don’t like them (~$10 for a decent frame).

I’m in sort of that boat. Have a plastic lens in one eye (cataract surgery), and see a golf ball at 200 yards with it. Other eye is about 20/400, so I wear a contact in that one. A set of $7.00 WalMart “half eyes” reading glasses handles everything out to arms length. I’ve actually got a couple of pairs of safety glasses for the shop with readers built in. about 10 bucks a pair.

RBS

55 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:52:02pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

Not always.
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That is about the worst possible angle Hoft could have been photographed in.

56 darthstar  Jul 22, 2014 6:53:02pm

Can I say one thing? Fuck Edward Snowden. He was on TV saying he’d be okay if he “wound up in chains in Guantanamo” - if he wanted to find himself in chains, all he’d have to do is seek out the US Embassy. He’d be chained up by Putin before he got within 500 yards.

57 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 22, 2014 6:53:25pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

Not always.
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OMG… I know we refer to Dim Jim as a dickhead sometimes… but I just realized that the shape of his head, especially that hair, has a definite penile look to it.

Off for the brain bleach for that self inflicted trauma.

58 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:53:52pm

re: #56 darthstar

Can I say one thing? Fuck Edward Snowden. He was on TV saying he’d be okay if he “wound up in chains in Guantanamo” - if he wanted to find himself in chains, all he’d have to do is seek out the US Embassy. He’d be chained up by Putin before he got within 500 yards.

Yeah, he could have done that already. He’s full of shit.

59 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:53:53pm

re: #49 Rev_Arthur_Belling

1) It makes them look smarter.
2) They’re getting older and need reading glasses.

This is one reason why I don’t necessarily diss Perry for his new glasses thing. I now need bifocals, but I hate them. So I wear regular strength contacts and reading glasses as well. I’ve tried several different styles, and have found a couple I like. The beauty of reading glasses is they don’t cost much if you don’t like them (~$10 for a decent frame).

I’ve worn bifocals and progressive lenses for 20 years.
Reading killed my eyes I think.

60 b_sharp  Jul 22, 2014 6:54:23pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

Not always.
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WHY!!!!

61 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 22, 2014 6:55:14pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

Hey, Donna! I just tweeted this photo from earlier to Daniel since he’s been doing hummingbird photos, but I’m sure you’ll apprentice it too.

I pulled it up, +1 of course. What a shot!!

62 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 6:55:27pm

re: #60 b_sharp

WHY!!!!

Because it had to be. Point taken!

63 Donna Ballard  Jul 22, 2014 6:55:45pm

re: #36 Romantic Heretic

Boy, you aren’t kidding! The haters gonna hate no matter what! I see it over and over, who cares if it makes sense or not, I hate you! Bla, bla, bla! Sheesh, I wish these people would grow up! Or go away, I’m not picky, either one would do!

64 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 6:56:23pm

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

I pulled it up, +1 of course. What a shot!!

Looks like that hummingbird has miniature peacock feathers all over it!

65 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 6:57:18pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d say slim to none.

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66 Donna Ballard  Jul 22, 2014 6:58:22pm

re: #52 CuriousLurker

Wow, no kidding huh? Great super close up! Thanks for the link, I’m not so tech savy as Daniel so I need links like that to get around!

67 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 6:59:05pm

re: #47 Mattand

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Great minds, etc…

68 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 7:03:57pm

WTFITS

69 Donna Ballard  Jul 22, 2014 7:04:04pm

re: #51 b_sharp

Blast it all, I’ve worn the darn things since I turned 9 years old and I’d LOVE to be rid of them! Gaugh! I hate them! But I’m not candidate for the laser surgery and contacts are a pain in the bum, not to mention expensive as all get out. Oh well.

70 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 22, 2014 7:04:05pm

re: #66 Donna Ballard
re: #52 CuriousLurker

Okay now i’m starting to think do the post work on the shots from Big Sur and Hwy 1 a couple weeks ago.

71 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 7:05:08pm

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

re: #66 Donna Ballard

When I went to look at the photo on Flickr I was really excited to see that it was taken with the same 100mm macro I recently bought! It’s good to know what it’s capable of and what settings work for a shot like that.

Anyway, it’s getting late here so I need to prepare for tomorrow and get ready for bed. Have a great night, everyone.

72 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 7:09:42pm

re: #68 Pie-onist Overlord

smh

73 Donna Ballard  Jul 22, 2014 7:09:46pm

I’m gonna go help with dinner, now that I have a compooter of my own you guys are stuck with me! Ha! Later Lizardia! Keep on Laughing!

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 7:10:35pm

off to sleep…laterz…..

75 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:12:28pm

re: #68 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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Herpity derpity DURRRRR

Evening Lizardim.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 7:15:23pm

I guess it was “street art”

77 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 7:17:27pm

re: #68 Pie-onist Overlord

Earlier today I thought she was making sense. I guess not, though.

78 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 7:20:54pm

Uhm. Ok.

79 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 7:22:10pm

Oh goody.

80 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 7:22:37pm

Did anyone read the Weigel piece about the Hagee/adelson Christians for Israel fest? They are going to be PISSED if Kerry gets a cease fire going.

81 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 7:23:07pm
82 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:23:18pm

re: #79 Joanne

Oh goody.

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Yeah, I heard about that. Some of my Minnesota FB friends were talking about it. BRING ON THE DERP.

83 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 7:27:24pm

re: #79 Joanne

Oh goody.

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84 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 7:28:50pm

So ends another moonbat Twitter day.

85 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:30:19pm

re: #84 Gus

So ends another moonbat Twitter day.

A blue-letter day?

86 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 7:32:04pm

re: #33 jaunte

Todd Starnes
“I’m about as politically incorrect as you can get. I’m wearing an NRA ball cap, eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich, reading a Paula Deen cookbook and sipping a 20-ounce sweet tea while sitting in my Cracker Barrel rocking chair with the Gather Vocal Band singing ‘Jesus Saves’ on the stereo and a Gideon’s Bible in my pocket. Yes sir, I’m politically incorrect and happy as a June bug.”

washingtonpost.com

Who gives a shit.

87 prairiefire  Jul 22, 2014 7:37:46pm

re: #54 RealityBasedSteve

I’m in sort of that boat. Have a plastic lens in one eye (cataract surgery), and see a golf ball at 200 yards with it. Other eye is about 20/400, so I wear a contact in that one. A set of $7.00 WalMart “half eyes” reading glasses handles everything out to arms length. I’ve actually got a couple of pairs of safety glasses for the shop with readers built in. about 10 bucks a pair.

RBS

me hippy mum’s latest contention is that readers lead to brain damage cause you are not using your brain as well as you should. ?

88 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 7:38:05pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Jack White is absolutely right - the Black Keys did blatantly steal the White Stripes’ style.

I beg to differ! (Kidding…but there may something to it, as I’ve always wondered).

There was a two man, drums and guitar band here in Columbus a ways back before the White Stripes called the Bassholes. Saw them a couple times when a friends band (V3 - Jim Shepard) was the main act and the Bassholes opened.

Here is a Wiki page on the main dude, guitarist Don Howland. I was sort of surprised how much info on the ‘net there is about them.

Bassholes - Don Howland Wiki

And an image…

Bassholes

And of course, I realize there might be others. But I have no doubt Jack White may have heard of them being the music historian and hound for underground he is.

89 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 7:38:27pm

re: #86 BeenHereAwhile

Who gives a shit.

That’ll show them librulz!

90 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 7:41:32pm

“…In Hice’s view, the United States took a turn for the worse after the Civil War, when President Abraham Lincoln stripped away the hallowed rights of states. He says “the technical reasons for the War are still being debated,” but he mentions that the war—by undermining states rights—essentially ruined the original idea of America.”
motherjones.com

91 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:05pm

re: #86 BeenHereAwhile

I assume that he paid the Gideons a proper price. Oh, wait, he’s a lying conservative.

92 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:09pm

re: #84 Gus

So ends another moonbat Twitter day.

It’s pretty bad out there right now.

93 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:16pm

re: #35 allegro

Like a good wildlife biologist, I would say that shit-weasels, like fire ants, have a purpose in the greater biosphere… ‘cept I can’t think of a single one.

They keep the elk from over grazing the meadows and river banks, allowing aspens and other trees to grow, cutting down on erosion and providing habitat for birds.

Todd just has his priorities confused.

94 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:29pm
95 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:45pm

re: #88 ObserverArt

I beg to differ! (Kidding…but there may something to it, as I’ve always wondered).

There was a two man, drums and guitar band here in Columbus a ways back before the White Stripes called the Bassholes. Saw them a couple times when a friends band (V3 - Jim Shepard) was the main act and the Bassholes opened.

Here is a Wiki page on the main dude, guitarist Don Howland. I was sort of surprised how much info on the ‘net there is about them.

Bassholes - Don Howland Wiki

And an image…

Bassholes

And of course, I realize there might be others. But I have no doubt Jack White may have heard of them being the music historian and hound for underground he is.

There was also the flat duo jets

96 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:56pm

re: #90 jaunte

No one is debating the technical reasons for the war, outside of neo-cons and revisionists, that is.

97 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:44:03pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

It’s pretty bad out there right now.

This is why I don’t Twitter. I refuse to give into despair. I let others handle the bulk of the stupid so I don’t flip desks and set them on fire.

98 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 7:44:55pm

Ha…there are a couple Bassholes YouTubes. So, I had to share an EP to see what you all think.

Youtube Video

99 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 7:46:50pm

re: #88 ObserverArt

The Bassholes had a thing, no doubt. But the thing that made the White Stripes so cool is that they were so completely incompetent at playing their instruments, but somehow made it work amazingly well. They sucked, but they were awesome.

100 piratedan  Jul 22, 2014 7:47:50pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

kinda like the Sex Pistols and Siouxsie and the Banshees?

101 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 7:48:12pm

re: #95 Rev_Arthur_Belling

There was also the flat duo jets

Thanks for that. I love reading up on bands that I know nothing about. And the beauty of it all is you can find stuff on YouTube.

102 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 7:49:47pm

I’ve been getting into the Arctic Monkeys lately

Youtube Video

103 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 7:51:48pm
104 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 7:53:46pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

It’s pretty bad out there right now.

Mute, mute, mute, mute… //

105 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 7:55:30pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

The Bassholes had a thing, no doubt. But the thing that made the White Stripes so cool is that they were so completely incompetent at playing their instruments, but somehow made it work amazingly well. They sucked, but they were awesome.

See, I don’t think they sucked as much as all that. Jack White has shown remarkable growth in his style over the years. Sure, they probably started out sucking, but they grew, and Jack White, at least, seems to continue to do so. Meg White (according to a recent Rolling Stone piece) appears to have become a hermit. What a waste.

106 teleskiguy  Jul 22, 2014 7:58:15pm

re: #105 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What a waste.

Word association!

107 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 7:58:52pm

re: #79 Joanne

Oh goody.

[Embedded content] …Michelle Bachman…[Embedded content]

‘Bout time for her to stage her own kidnapping.

108 prairiefire  Jul 22, 2014 8:00:19pm

re: #105 Rev_Arthur_Belling

See, I don’t think they sucked as much as all that. Jack White has shown remarkable growth in his style over the years. Sure, they probably started out sucking, but they grew, and Jack White, at least, seems to continue to do so. Meg White (according to a recent Rolling Stone piece) appears to have become a hermit. What a waste.

I love to play air drums along with Meg!!! thump thump thump crash

109 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 8:03:18pm

I mentioned my friend Jim Shepard and his band V3 up thread. Sadly Jim took his own life back in ‘98 at 39. He had had a contract with Rick Rubin and Onion records. After one record he was dropped. And I think he took that as his one last chance to make it in the music biz…and he never really got past the disappointment. He was known for his low-fi, but very unique sound.

Allow me to drop a couple tunes on you…both from Photograph Burns - Onion Records…recorded in my basement studio back in 94-95 on a 8-track Otari. I do it in memory of him. He was a great music friend and some of the bands I was in got to open for him around Ohio State and other Columbus locations. Mentioning him made me sad and so I had to dig these up. I think you will like them.

The first video (End of the Bar) has the album cover image, the second (American Face) is of him at Staches with his lovely Framus Akkerman guitar. He could get the best crunchy sounds out of that guitar, with nary a pedal. Sometimes getting into Robert Fripp territory, using usually a small amp about ready to blow up and miked.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

Thanks for allowing me the memories.

110 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 8:04:06pm

And off to the motel for the night. Have a good evening lizards.

111 Romantic Heretic  Jul 22, 2014 8:04:34pm

re: #59 b_sharp

I’ve worn bifocals and progressive lenses for 20 years.
Reading killed my eyes I think.

But what a great way to go!

112 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:08:59pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

Thanks for sharing. And sorry about your friend. Music, like any creative business, is so hit-and-miss at times. I know some bands right now who are doing really neat things, but will probably never get anywhere.

113 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 8:09:36pm

re: #91 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I assume that he paid the Gideons a proper price. Oh, wait, he’s a lying conservative.

The only source of Gideon’s bibles I’m aware of are hotel or motel rooms.

“checked into his room, only to find Gideon’s bible.”

114 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 8:10:53pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

The Bassholes had a thing, no doubt. But the thing that made the White Stripes so cool is that they were so completely incompetent at playing their instruments, but somehow made it work amazingly well. They sucked, but they were awesome.

There was that!

I like raw tunes. Play that way myself to a degree. I just wish I could get the guys I was working with to polish off a CD we were doing so I could share. Sometime I’ll see if I can post up some of an older CD we did too…but I can be shy about my own stuff.

One thing I can say, the bands I was in (drummer, songwriter, vocals) never got laughed off stage…and often we did command attention. Nothing like creating music and playing live! Never did much cover either. Almost all original. All for the love of it.

Now I am working with the last member of our long-time Friday night band and doing really simple stuff, with what I hope are good lyrics.

115 calochortus  Jul 22, 2014 8:12:59pm

re: #113 BeenHereAwhile

The only source of Gideon’s bibles I’m aware of are hotel or motel rooms.

“checked into his room, only to find Gideon’s bible.”

I vaguely recall that the Gideons encourage people to take the bible if they need one, though.
Perhaps he is too poor to afford one all on his own?
/

116 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 8:13:34pm

re: #105 Rev_Arthur_Belling

See, I don’t think they sucked as much as all that. Jack White has shown remarkable growth in his style over the years. Sure, they probably started out sucking, but they grew, and Jack White, at least, seems to continue to do so. Meg White (according to a recent Rolling Stone piece) appears to have become a hermit. What a waste.

I think she suffers from some stage fright. That hurt XTC’s Andy Partridge too. Sadly…one of the best writers of the 80s.

117 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:14:01pm

re: #113 BeenHereAwhile

The only source of Gideon’s bibles I’m aware of are hotel or motel rooms.

“checked into his room, only to find Gideon’s bible.”

Actually, they do a lot of work on college campuses too, handing out tiny New Testaments.

118 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:15:19pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

I think she suffers from some stage fright. That hurt XTC’s Andy Partridge too. Sadly…one of the best writers of the 80s.

Yeah, stage fright but also apparently some social anxiety as well. This was based on Jack White’s interview, so it’s all we have to go on. I know Partridge had stage fright. At least he kept producing some great music, just not touring.

119 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 22, 2014 8:19:01pm

WTFITS

A VA Tech professor says…

120 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 8:20:32pm

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

WTFITS

A VA Tech professor says…

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And he’s a single prong of stupidity

121 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:21:42pm

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

Palestine. Native America. BDS. Decolonization. Indigenous Studies. Author of six books, most recently Israel’s Dead Soul.

He seems nice.

122 jaunte  Jul 22, 2014 8:22:00pm

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

“Author of six books, most recently Israel’s Dead Soul.”

Probably not an objective voice.

123 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 8:28:42pm

Jack White played in Milwaukee last night.

Jack White’s Monday night concert at the Rave’s Eagles Ballroom reportedly was the fastest sellout in venue history: about 3,500 tickets gone in seven minutes flat.

So naturally, excitement was high — higher, perhaps, than the stifling temperature in the room. But the person who seemed most thrilled to be there Monday was White.

Bursting on stage and taking a swig from a bottle in the shadows, White jumped up and down, his mad-scientist mane flailing in the cool blue light before the rumble of a distortion-dipped jam that segued into a pounding “Icky Thump” from White’s breakthrough duo the White Stripes.

Sounds like it was a great show.

124 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:31:25pm

re: #123 Amory Blaine

It’s possible he was in Chicago tonight?
deadspin.com

125 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 8:35:14pm

I like Jack White a whole hell of a lot. Loved the Raconteurs and Dead Weather. I’d like to see another Dead Weather project, but doubt it happens. Probably never another Raconteurs album again either. But he never disappoints.

Later LGFers…good rockin’ tonight!

126 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:39:55pm

re: #124 Rev_Arthur_Belling

It’s possible he was in Chicago tonight?
deadspin.com

He wore the jersey at least.

127 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 8:41:48pm

He was on Jimmy Fallon with Neil Young singing in a Voice-O-Graph recording booth where he recorded his new album.

Youtube Video

128 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:48:30pm

re: #127 Amory Blaine

I will be in Nashville next week. I wish I knew where that booth was. It sounds cool.

129 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 8:57:52pm

re: #128 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I will be in Nashville next week. I wish I knew where that booth was. It sounds cool.

Third Man Records

130 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Jul 22, 2014 8:59:55pm

re: #129 Amory Blaine

Very cool! I’ll be near there. Hope I can make it at some point (stupid meetings!)

131 teleskiguy  Jul 22, 2014 9:20:13pm

It’s a teensy little fire now, burned maybe a tree or two, but I can see it from my deck! We were almost evacuated about 16 years ago when a fire got out of control on the same hillside. The slurry bombers had to come in for that one.

132 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 9:20:58pm

I’ve only been through Nashville, but I would like to see it. I’ve been to Memphis probably ten times. Fell in love with it while visiting my little sister in the Navy. Although last time I went was about 10 years ago. Heh. Went with my wife, mom and step-dad. We went to this fantastic seafood restaurant and mom and her hubby weren’t as enthused as we were and brought most of their food back to the hotel. Where, after they fell asleep, the wife and I took their food and ate it ever so quietly in the bathroom (I called it the bathroom of shame).

133 Jay in Oregon  Jul 22, 2014 9:33:06pm

re: #56 darthstar

Can I say one thing? Fuck Edward Snowden. He was on TV saying he’d be okay if he “wound up in chains in Guantanamo” - if he wanted to find himself in chains, all he’d have to do is seek out the US Embassy. He’d be chained up by Putin before he got within 500 yards.

That’s why he was crying about not being able to come home because he was afraid he wouldn’t get a fair hearing, right?

But he gets a +5 bonus to Charisma checks when addressing his worshippers, which is all that matters.

134 BeachDem  Jul 22, 2014 9:46:36pm

re: #132 Amory Blaine

For your fond memories of Memphis:

Youtube Video

135 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:54:50pm

136 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:56:53pm

137 teleskiguy  Jul 22, 2014 9:58:34pm

re: #135 Gus

I recognize the fellow on the right, Gus Grissom if I’m not mistaken.

Had he lived, he probably would have been the first man to set foot on the moon.

138 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:55pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

I recognize the fellow on the right, Gus Grissom if I’m not mistaken.

Had he lived, he probably would have been the first man to set foot on the moon.

Negative. :D

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:13:17pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

I recognize the fellow on the right, Gus Grissom if I’m not mistaken.

Had he lived, he probably would have been the first man to set foot on the moon.

Only fitting that the first fellow to walk on the moon would be called Ivan. (that was his real first name, for obvious reasons, they stuck with his nickname “Gus”)

140 teleskiguy  Jul 22, 2014 10:14:18pm

re: #138 Gus

Negative. :D

I mean, I’m just another guy with internet!

Gus Grissom, United States Space Pioneer and Badass who should be remembered as one of the bravest humans that ever lived.

141 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:14:52pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

I mean, I’m just another guy with internet!

Gus Grissom, United States Space Pioneer and Badass who should be remembered as one of the bravest humans that ever lived.

I love the man.

142 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 10:35:10pm

re: #132 Amory Blaine

I’ve only been through Nashville, but I would like to see it. I’ve been to Memphis probably ten times. Fell in love with it while visiting my little sister in the Navy. Although last time I went was about 10 years ago. Heh. Went with my wife, mom and step-dad. We went to this fantastic seafood restaurant and mom and her hubby weren’t as enthused as we were and brought most of their food back to the hotel. Where, after they fell asleep, the wife and I took their food and ate it ever so quietly in the bathroom (I called it the bathroom of shame).

The 3rd leg of Nashville’s economy Music (1st TN State Gov, 2nd Insurance) is still vibrant, but for the last 30 or so years, folk making music in Nashville realized that they don’t have to be on Music Row to make hit records.

It may sound hokey, but for an historical introduction to Music Row, maybe take the $30 Studio B tour (it’s more than just Studio B), or walk Broadway from 5th Ave (the Ryman is on 5th) Tootsie’s is on the corner, down to 2nd Ave up to Church and back down 1st Ave.

Stop by the Ernest Tubb Record Shop, 417 Broadway. See if they have a copy of “Steel Guitar Rag.”

You’ll see cutoffs, cowboy boots, & along 1st Ave, in addition to the honky tonks & blues clubs, some Nashville pre music row history.

Or go to the Country & Western Music Museum. It’s an interesting place. A couple of years ago, they did a retrospective on Jimi Hendrix.

There’s also the Frist (Sen Bill & Tommy Frist) Center For The Visual Arts at 919 Broadway. Some good exhibits there.

RBS can probably suggest some good downtown food spots.

.

143 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:35:46pm
144 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 10:38:30pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

I recognize the fellow on the right, Gus Grissom if I’m not mistaken.

Had he lived, he probably would have been the first man to set foot on the moon.

Pure Oxygen.

145 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 10:41:28pm

re: #143 Gus

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“How do you like them rockets son?”

Chuck Yeager

146 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 10:41:37pm

re: #143 Gus

Powerful image.

147 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 10:43:41pm

“I don’t have a quarter for air!!”

148 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:48:36pm

re: #146 Amory Blaine

Powerful image.

Indeed.

149 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 22, 2014 11:01:24pm

re: #134 BeachDem

For your fond memories of Memphis:

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Video

Peabody Hotel, Edward Penbroke and ducks.

150 sagehen  Jul 22, 2014 11:08:10pm

re: #145 BeenHereAwhile

“How do you like them rockets son?”

Chuck Yeager

He’s my favorite, too.

For the awesome eyesight, for getting screwed out of the Mercury program because his accent and education wasn’t what the PR people wanted, for breaking the sound barrier, for free-falling five miles on fire (and not pulling his chute until the last second because he didn’t want it to catch on fire too) and then walking back to base smoldering, for being the best goddam test pilot this nation has ever produced….

151 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 11:11:17pm

re: #149 BeenHereAwhile

Yep the little duck walk to the fountain.

152 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 11:13:02pm

re: #151 Amory Blaine

Yep the little duck walk to the fountain.

There’s a story about the Peabody ducks in one of the English textbooks my Chinese students use.

153 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 11:15:00pm

Youtube Video

154 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:24:39pm

155 Single-handed sailor  Jul 22, 2014 11:30:42pm

re: #154 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Click to Reveal

87

156 Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2014 11:53:01pm

Youtube Video

157 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 12:11:58am

re: #154 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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But can they write a 5 paragraph order?

158 RadicalModerate  Jul 23, 2014 12:12:41am

re: #155 Single-handed sailor

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Nope.

Click to Reveal

It’s clearly L8

159 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 12:16:40am

re: #154 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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42.

NEXT!

160 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 12:23:39am
161 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 12:24:33am

re: #160 Kragar

How is that even possible…

162 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 12:30:44am

re: #159 Varek Raith

42.

NEXT!

42+42=?

163 Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2014 12:30:53am

heh. I bought this with my niece on vacation. The dude watches my desk.

164 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 12:31:31am

re: #162 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

42+42=?

Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.

165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 12:32:30am

re: #164 Varek Raith

(Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything)*2=?

166 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 12:34:14am

re: #161 Varek Raith

How is that even possible…

I still don’t know how he made it thru the Clone Wars without a friendly fire incident.

167 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 12:34:36am

re: #160 Kragar

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Of the Right side of the aisle, at least this much is true;

Both are clumsy, confused, inept, fail to advance, well, anything. Both are products of a rigid and militaristic class system. Both are teeth-grindingly embarrassing recent creations of a once-proud and well-regarded national institution. And both are just a little racially insensitive at the best of times…

But Jar Jar means well, dammit!

168 Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2014 12:39:44am

Watched a pretty good Outer Limits last night with Robert Duval.

169 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 12:40:43am

Residents of Donetsk ask the neo-Nazi Gubarev: what are you defending us from? We were in no way repressed. The reply is as usual about nothing - “junta”, “nationalists” (rich, coming from a neo-Nazi), “Banderites”…

Youtube Video

170 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 1:32:57am

re: #169 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Residents of Donetsk ask the neo-Nazi Gubarev: what are you defending us from? We were in no way repressed. The reply is as usual about nothing - “junta”, “nationalists” (rich, coming from a neo-Nazi), “Banderites”…

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It seems the residents of Donetsk - or at least some of them - are getting a little sick of the separatists BS. For me at least, the question remains; what if the majority of the residents of Donetsk tell the separatists, “We want you out of here - pack up your shit and leave, now”, what are the separatists such as Gubarev going to do? Will they simply ignore such a demand? Will they turn their guns on the residents of Donetsk?

An equally good question is how would the Kremlin react to such a scenario? I can imagine they wouldn’t be happy on one hand, but on the other hand, it’s also a way out for them - they can claim “the separatists overstepped their bounds and lost the loyalty of the people”; such a scenario would allow them to wash their hands of the entire matter by throwing Gubarev, Girkin, etc., under the bus and still claim some kind of moral high ground: Novorossiya failed not because of Russia, but because the separatists politically and morally failed and ‘lost’ the people.

Like I said, the Kremlin wouldn’t be happy about that - but they could still easily twist such a scenario to their advantage.

171 freetoken  Jul 23, 2014 1:39:52am

MP3 Audio

172 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 1:56:16am

Meanwhile, in China - specifically in Sichuan Province:

What appears to be the world’s largest flying aquatic insect was discovered earlier this month in China’s Sichuan province, officials there say.

According to the Insect Museum of West China, an expedition to the outskirts of Chengdu in mid-July returned dobsonflies with 8.3-inch wingspans and “giant snake-like fangs.” Previously, the largest-known aquatic insect was the South American helicopter damselfly, which had a wingspan measuring 7.5 inches.

au.news.yahoo.com

173 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 3:06:44am

The British mouthpiece of the pro-Russian terrorists Graham Phillips has apparently disappeared.

174 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 3:09:32am

re: #173 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Last tweet:

175 Timothy Watson  Jul 23, 2014 3:17:11am

re: #172 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in China - specifically in Sichuan Province:

au.news.yahoo.com

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Is that a Goa’uld?

176 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 3:26:21am

re: #175 Timothy Watson

Is that a Goa’uld?

Either a Goa’uld or some flying form of Facehugger.

177 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 3:30:22am

re: #175 Timothy Watson

If it’s a Facehugger, this graphic would probably come in handy:

178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 3:40:07am

The road to the Crimea.

Youtube Video

179 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 23, 2014 3:44:06am

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I just found out my friend Tamas’s wife’s grandmother, who I’ll get to meet at her 92nd birthday party, grew up in Ukraine during the holodomor, then lived through WWII (as a Jew in the Ukraine), and then emigrated to the US. She’s still totally with it and sharp as a tack, and apparently has a very dry, straightforward way of talking about “The time when Stalin decided it would be best if Ukrainians died in large numbers.”

180 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 23, 2014 3:51:42am

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

181 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 3:55:31am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

My condolences on your loss. You’ll be in my thoughts and prayers.

182 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 4:02:39am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

condolences. my mom passed at 85…

183 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 4:07:02am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

{{{{Shiplord Kirel}}}}

184 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 23, 2014 4:08:38am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

I’m glad her passage was sudden and not lingering, but I can’t imagine your sadness right now. Make sure to take the time to take care of yourself as well as others.

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 23, 2014 4:14:44am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

May God be with you all and gather her up into the light.

186 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 4:17:44am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

My condolences, SK.

187 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 4:24:52am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

{{{{{{{{{{Shiplord}}}}}}}}}}

188 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 4:25:41am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

To her memory. (sips port)

I’m sorry for your loss, SK.

189 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 4:27:38am

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

What’s with the influx? What kind of people are we looking at? I imagine it has something to do with the fact the isthmus is now an international border.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 4:28:45am

I turned on CNN in the car this morning and listened to a screaming match between Chris Cuomo (of the New Day program) and Peter Lavelle. Cuomo was calling Lavelle a shill for Putin.

191 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 4:31:41am

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The road to the Crimea.

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Video

What’s going on?

192 Bubblehead II  Jul 23, 2014 4:34:20am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

My condolences for your loss.

193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 4:35:11am

re: #191 Pie-onist Overlord

What’s going on?

are these former refugees returning or are they offering homestead land grants?

194 Teukka  Jul 23, 2014 4:35:24am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

My condolences, SK.

195 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 4:37:13am

re: #191 Pie-onist Overlord

What’s going on?

I’d kill to be able to understand Russian or any Slavic tongue right now.

196 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 4:38:42am

My son changed his Facebook profile pic to show him in the IDF uniform when he served 10 years ago. Everybody is liking it so I liked it too. I am proud of him.

197 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 4:43:03am

re: #191 Pie-onist Overlord

What’s going on?

Vacation.

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 4:43:59am

The MH17 crash site is so unsecured, they even have tea party guys carrying their guns around.

199 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 4:45:24am

Went to PZ Myer’s blog, Pharyngula. From a post made by the professor himself on the 20th.

We should not be propping up the vile and bloody government of Israel anymore. Maybe if they’re deprived of the teat of unquestioning US aid, they’ll realize that they can’t afford to solve their problems with attempted genocide.

Couldn’t believe my eyes. Freethought my arse. Only one or two of the commenters even touch on the intellectual dishonesty of using the term ‘genocide’.

200 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 4:45:50am

re: #197 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Vacation.

Ahhhhhh…

201 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 4:47:22am

re: #199 Alyosha

Went to PZ Myer’s blog, Pharyngula. From a post made by the professor himself on the 20th.

We should not be propping up the vile and bloody government of Israel anymore. Maybe if they’re deprived of the teat of unquestioning US aid, they’ll realize that they can’t afford to solve their problems with attempted genocide.

Couldn’t believe my eyes. Freethought my arse. Only one or two of the commenters even touch on the intellectual dishonesty of using the term ‘genocide’.

I used to hang out there a few years ago, but PZ is way too full of himself to be bearable. Now I only visit if he has something scientific he’s commenting on.

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 4:48:03am

re: #197 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Vacation.

Looks like fun.

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 4:48:30am
204 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 4:52:20am

re: #200 Alyosha

re: #202 Pie-onist Overlord

The peninsula lived from tourists, both Russian and Ukrainian. Now the Russians can’t get there by train, the plane tickets are pretty expensive, and the Ukrainians can’t visit for obvious reasons. The beaches are empty, the whole season has gone to the dogs. Hail Putin!

205 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 4:52:49am

re: #201 wheat-dogghazi

I used to hang out there a few years ago, but PZ is way too full of himself to be bearable. Now I only visit if he has something scientific he’s commenting on.

Hence why I noticed the post only today. Try and share anything in the comments. Saw too many people allied with the Horde’s cause drowned out with invective because they had a slight disagreement on definition or detail. Not a healthy environment.

206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 4:53:21am

re: #204 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The peninsula lived from tourists, both Russian and Ukrainian. Now the Russians can’t get there by train, the plane tickets are pretty expensive, and the Ukrainians can’t visit for obvious reasons. The beaches are empty, the whole season has gone to the dogs. Hail Putin!

I thought that the people were longing to be returned to the fold of mother Russia.

207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 4:57:27am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought that the people were longing to be returned to the fold of mother Russia.

So much that they didn’t have time to think./

208 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 4:58:42am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought that the people were longing to be returned to the fold of mother Russia.

Be careful what you wish for, because you may get it.

209 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 5:00:55am
210 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 5:03:48am
211 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 5:05:44am

re: #210 Pie-onist Overlord

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I’m sick of idiots conflating Gazans with Hamas.

212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 5:08:52am

re: #211 Alyosha

I’m sick of idiots conflating Gazans with Hamas.

It is the flip side of conflating Jews with Zionists

213 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 5:14:45am

Hamas isn’t desperate. They’re loving the bloodshed. It’s their only form of publicity other than their ‘social work’. If the IDF could somehow eradicate that particular parasitic blight forever without killing so many civilians, I’d paint my face white and blue tomorrow.

214 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 5:15:42am

re: #213 Alyosha

Hamas isn’t desperate. They’re loving the bloodshed. It’s their only form of publicity other than their ‘social work’. If the IDF could somehow eradicate that particular parasitic blight forever without killing so many civilians, I’d paint my face white and blue tomorrow.

They wish they could do that.

215 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 5:17:17am

ISRAELIS ARE MONSTERS, EVEN WORSE THAN AMERICANS!!!!!!

216 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 5:18:46am

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Jonathan Richman has been dueting with drummer Tommy Larkins for a long time.

That summer feeling is gonna haunt you the rest of your life

217 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 5:20:09am

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

ISRAELIS ARE MONSTERS, EVEN WORSE THAN AMERICANS!!!!!!

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Having contempt for the five-decade Israeli treatment of Palestinians isn’t remotely tantamount to celebrating Hamas

‘That, I do more privately.’

218 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 5:21:11am
contempt for the five-decade Israeli treatment of Palestinians

So he’s basically saying he’s hated Israel for its entire existence.

219 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 5:29:02am

re: #218 Pie-onist Overlord

So he’s basically saying he’s hated Israel for its entire existence.

I did when I was an avid reader of Chomsky, Pilger et al. But one needs to gain a broader perspective and not fall into the same dehumanising trap that fuels these conflicts. Glenn has not evolved this capacity and so will always see this through the eyes of an adolescent anarchist who desires to see the imperfect power that tries to do good (most of the time) fall into ashes. He’s your classic contrarian.

220 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 5:36:30am

re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord

The MH17 crash site is so unsecured, they even have tea party guys carrying their guns around.
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Either that or it’s Gerard Depardieu.

221 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 5:37:49am

re: #220 De Kolta Chair

Either that or it’s Gerard Depardieu.

Nosejob!

222 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 5:38:45am

re: #220 De Kolta Chair

Or Steven Seagal. What other pro-Putin clowns are there, among the so-called stars?

223 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 5:55:12am

More freedom than America! Greenwald and Snowden said so!

Putin signs law that could end up blocking Facebook and Twitter in Russia

Russian president Vladimir Putin has signed a new law that forces firms operating web services in the country to store Russian citizens’ data there. As the law also makes it possible to block non-compliant services, this may be a precursor to a new wave of internet censorship.

Putin also signed a law on Tuesday to ban repeated street protests. On Wednesday, telecoms regulator Roskomnadzor also clarified an upcoming requirement for bloggers to abandon anonymity, saying they would only need to do so if they receive a Roskomnadzor notice. This law will come into effect on 1 August.

224 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 5:57:21am

re: #223 Lidane

More freedom than America! Greenwald and Snowden said so!

Putin signs law that could end up blocking Facebook and Twitter in Russia

BUT GREENWALD AND SNOWDEN ASSURED US THAT RUSSIA IS THE GREATEST AND FREEST NATION IN THE WORLD!!

225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 5:57:40am

re: #223 Lidane

So they fear anonymous sources of information.

I place very little faith in unnamed or anonymous sources except as editorials and opinions, but Putin seems to have reason to mistrust their power as sources of verifiable information.

226 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 5:58:24am

How is it?

227 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:01:31am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He just wants to be able to put any critic in prison.

228 ericblair  Jul 23, 2014 6:01:40am

re: #204 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The peninsula lived from tourists, both Russian and Ukrainian. Now the Russians can’t get there by train, the plane tickets are pretty expensive, and the Ukrainians can’t visit for obvious reasons. The beaches are empty, the whole season has gone to the dogs. Hail Putin!

I believe the plan now is to open a bunch of casinos in Crimea to drum up tourist business. The Crimeans have always considered it a family-friendly place, and aren’t too thrilled about this. Seems the Russian response to that is “you’re free now, so sit down and shut up.”

Plus there’s that little matter of months of TV footage of masked men in combat uniform waving automatic rifles around and shit blowing up. Doesn’t exactly scream “fun in the Black Sea sun.”

229 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:01:43am

re: #222 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Or Steven Seagal. What other pro-Putin clowns are there, among the so-called stars?

Alain “Remember Moi?” Delon is said to be a fan, but I suspect he only hangs with Vlad to meet chicks.

230 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:02:25am

Snowden is reminding me of Chuck “The Gong Show” Barris.

231 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 6:04:22am

We need a graphic of Boris Yeltsin that says ‘Miss Me Yet?’

232 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:04:23am

re: #222 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Or Steven Seagal. What other pro-Putin clowns are there, among the so-called stars?

Putin isn’t the only person Seagal is chummy with.

233 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:05:36am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Putin isn’t the only person Seagal is chummy with.

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Pardon my ignorance. Who is he with?

234 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:05:39am

re: #222 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Or Steven Seagal. What other pro-Putin clowns are there, among the so-called stars?

Also:

235 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:06:22am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Pardon my ignorance. Who is he with?

Adnan Oktar, aka Harun Yahya, well-known Muslim creationist and neo-Ottomanist.

236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 6:06:27am

re: #227 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He just wants to be able to put any critic in prison.

Or in a mental hospital, as anyone who would criticize Putin must be clearly and clinically insane.

237 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 6:06:51am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Pardon my ignorance. Who is he with?

The president of one of them Uzbeki-beki-stan-stans?

Edited for punct.

238 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:08:14am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Adnan Oktar, aka Harun Yahya, well-known Muslim creationist and neo-Ottomanist.

Ah. Thanks. Seagal sure knows how to pick winners.

239 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:08:34am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Also:

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240 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 6:09:53am

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

Let’s see. Hamas has used ambulances in the past to navigate Gaza in order to carry out attacks. It uses launch sites in close proximity to hospitals, schools, and other civil buildings, including using apartment buildings to launch attacks against Israel.

Israel is within its rights to defend itself from attack. It also has a responsibility to minimize the effect on civilians. That puts the two goals at odds with each other, particularly when Hamas seeks to maximize civilian casualties at every opportunity - including refusing to accept any and all ceasefire agreements all while extending attacks deeper into Israel, including near Ben Gurion airport.

It’s that move that may have been Hamas’ fatal undoing. The attack, and subsequent move by airlines and then the FAA to stop flights in and out of TLV, gives Israel the rationale to go and finish off Hamas - disarming it once and for all. Of course, Hamas can read into this that the attacks succeeded beyond their wildest dreams by causing significant economic harm to Israel, so they’ll pursue more attacks of that kind.

Each side read into the FAA decision what they want - but Israel holds the stronger hand because even the EU is calling on the disarmament of Hamas and other terror groups in Gaza - although they don’t spell out who will do it (and knowing the EU, it doesn’t want to be them) or when this will happen.

Greenwald likes to play the moral equivalency card, but there have been thousands of attacks against Israel - each one with deadly intent in this current round (but there have been rocket/missile attacks from Gaza every month except one since the 2012 ceasefire was in place). The only difference is that Hamas needs to get lucky to inflict casualties with its mortar and rocket attacks, while Israel can more easily inflict casualties on Gazans and Hamas.

He further ignores the decades of abuse heaped on Palestinians by their own Arab neighbors - like when Egypt, TransJordan and Syria and Lebanon refused to resettle the Palestinian refugees after 1948, and instead locked them into camps from which they stoked the flames of hatred for use against Israel. Or that Transjordan and Egypt didn’t help found Palestine with the territory they captured in 1948 - the West Bank (including West Jerusalem and the Old City) and Gaza by allowing the Palestinians to determine their futures for themselves.

He ignores the fact that Israel was able to make peace with Egypt and Jordan, which included land returns, but Gaza was specifically excluded because Egypt didn’t want to deal with the extremists there (and that’s a rather prescient move - sticking the mess with Israel).

IOW, Greenwald ignores facts, the history of the region and the Palestinians own efforts to scuttle peace with Israel. It doesn’t diminish Israel’s own steps that make a peace deal more difficult, including settlements but I’ve always contended that settlements are housing and housing can be sold/transferred as Israel has done twice - once in the return of Sinai and then with the unilateral withdrawal from Gaza. The Israelis forcibly removed Israelis from those settlements and they could do it yet again in the name of peace, but Hamas has shown no willingness to accept a peace deal with Israel. It’s always a ceasefire with an eye towards the next conflict. That, plus their constant acts in carrying out attacks against Israel is the textbook definition of an interminable conflict.

241 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 6:11:20am

re: #239 De Kolta Chair

Only a very spiritual person can pull off wearing a doo-rag under a panama hat. //

with unnaturally dark dyed hair and goatee.

He’s like Fashion Chuck Norris.

242 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 6:11:51am

re: #228 ericblair

That bit about the masked gunmen/separatists is the part I don’t quite get.

If they’re the freedom fighters and are truly on the side of the good, why don’t they want anyone to know who they really are? They go out of their way to mask their identities and limit information about their uniforms and affiliations.

243 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 6:12:50am

BUT SNOWDEN IS PRESSURING PUTIN FROM THE INSIDE, HE’S BOUND TO CRACK SOON

244 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:14:10am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Ah. Thanks. Seagal sure knows how to pick winners.

I’ve met Oktar; he’s an…..interesting….chap, to put it mildly. He catches a lot of flak from hardcore Islamists, largely owing to his rather liberal interpretations of Islam.

That, and he advocates secularism. And art. And music. Needless to say, the hardcore Islamists find that to be a big no-no. There actually was a genuine, bona-fide attempt a year ago or so to assassinate him by al-Qaeda. He was a primary target on their Turkish shit list. They accused him of being a Mossad agent as well as a Freemason (that last one comes about because he was made an honorary Mason by the Grand Lodge of Italy, I believe).

245 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 6:14:33am

re: #209 Pie-onist Overlord

246 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 6:14:47am

re: #240 lawhawk

He further ignores the decades of abuse heaped on Palestinians by their own Arab neighbors - like when Egypt, TransJordan and Syria and Lebanon refused to resettle the Palestinian refugees after 1948, and instead locked them into camps from which they stoked the flames of hatred for use against Israel. Or that Transjordan and Egypt didn’t help found Palestine with the territory they captured in 1948 - the West Bank (including West Jerusalem and the Old City) and Gaza by allowing the Palestinians to determine their futures for themselves.

The worst incendiaries have been those like Saudi Arabia and Iran who love to use Palestine as an issue and as a crutch for their own sickly states but who are so partisan as to be unable to help broker a peace even if they were so inclined.

Palestinian blood is the oil for the Mid East hate factory.

247 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:15:26am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

I’ve met Oktar; he’s an…..interesting….chap, to put it mildly. He catches a lot of flak from hardcore Islamists, largely owing to his rather liberal interpretations of Islam.

That, and he advocates secularism. And art. And music. Needless to say, the hardcore Islamists find that to be a big no-no. There actually was a genuine, bona-fide attempt a year ago or so to assassinate him by al-Qaeda. He was a primary target on their Turkish shit list. They accused him of being a Mossad agent as well as a Freemason (that last one comes about because he was made an honorary Mason by the Grand Lodge of Italy, I believe).

Goes to show you that you will never be hardcore enough for osme people.

248 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:15:27am

The NY Times’ weekly “Obama Faces a Test Because of Something Happening Somewhere” article:

nytimes.com

249 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:18:51am

re: #223 Lidane

He’s imitating China in many ways. Originally, users of China’s Twitter clones, like Sina Weibo, could register anonymously, with just an email address. The government stopped that a few years ago, requiring everyone to register with their real names and their national ID number. (It’s the same process for getting a cellphone number, which means some businesses accept your cell number as a form of ID.) Then, after Weibo users began to report news events — like train wrecks — and shoot video of corrupt police and government officials doing corrupt things, the government put a different control on netizens. Any weibo user that has more than 5,000 followers or any post that gets more than 500 hits will be investigated. Officially, this is to control the spread of harmful “rumors” which disturb the harmonious society of China.

The Great Firewall of China is well known. The government blocks Google now, to add to a growing list of mostly Western sites. Certain words and phrases are blocked from Internet searches and Wikipedia searches.

Facebook officially is blocked, and has been since 2009, but I’ve noticed in the last year an increasing number of my students and former students on Facebook. They use VPNs to “climb” the Great Firewall.

250 Timothy Watson  Jul 23, 2014 6:19:10am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Adnan Oktar, aka Harun Yahya, well-known Muslim creationist and neo-Ottomanist.

After reading his Wikipedia page: There’s just nothing new in the universe is there?

251 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 6:20:26am
252 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:20:35am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Goes to show you that you will never be hardcore enough for osme people.

Personally, I put him somewhere at the more liberal end of the spectrum, as far as socio-cultural matters go. It’s obvious there’s a strong Kemalist influence to his thinking. Politically, I’d put him somewhere between center and center-right. He likes the AKP, but he’s critical of some of their shenanigans as well.

But he also occasionally goes with conspiracy theories as well; he’s certainly a mixed bag. That being said, I’d rather spend time talking with him than with the absolute lunatics of ISIS.

253 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:20:44am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Putin isn’t the only person Seagal is chummy with.

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Holy shit! That tub on the right with the do-rag is Steven Seagal? Da-yum!

254 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:22:53am

re: #253 wheat-dogghazi

Holy shit! That tub on the right with the do-rag is Steven Seagal? Da-yum!

Well, I guess Stevie’s been hitting the all-you-can-eat-taco-bar a bit too frequently as of late.

255 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:23:06am
256 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 6:23:12am

Really interesting juxtaposition today.

Russian oil tycoon’s $300m super yacht is anchored just off island while the Navy exercises with hovercraft and Ospreys, plus with bonus Chinese spy ship.

Made the boring drive to work a little more interesting, though I didn’t see a Chinese spy ship.

257 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:23:31am

re: #253 wheat-dogghazi

Holy shit! That tub on the right with the do-rag is Steven Seagal? Da-yum!

Seagal is Whacked.

258 ericblair  Jul 23, 2014 6:25:22am

re: #242 lawhawk

That bit about the masked gunmen/separatists is the part I don’t quite get.

If they’re the freedom fighters and are truly on the side of the good, why don’t they want anyone to know who they really are? They go out of their way to mask their identities and limit information about their uniforms and affiliations.

I’m not sure quite what their thinking is. The reason why Russian soldiers wore masks in Crimea is pretty obvious: they were supposed to be locals, so when nobody recognized any of them it might have been a little too much to explain, plus with the amount of TV coverage people could have recognized them back home. (The sudden appearance of disciplined, identically uniformed, well-equipped people unfamiliar with the area didn’t exactly fool too many of the locals in reality.) I don’t think many of Putin’s Tourists (the irregulars who just waltzed over the border) wore masks much.

As for the rest of them, it will get you off the hook if you accidentally shoot Ivan from down the street in a drunken accident. Plus, all the cool freedom fighters are wearing them these days.

259 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:26:19am

Today’s allergy report:Station:

Chicago Area (Melrose Park), IL
Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Station Head(s): Joseph G. Leija, MD FAAAAI
Date of Pollen and Mold Count: 07/23/2014

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Pollen & Mold Summary
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Trees: Absent
Weeds: Low Concentration
Grass: Absent
Mold: High Concentration

Rageweed season is coming …

260 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:26:25am
261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 6:26:31am

re: #242 lawhawk

That bit about the masked gunmen/separatists is the part I don’t quite get.

Plausible deniability. Period.

262 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:26:49am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

263 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:27:30am

Mornin’ gang.

264 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:27:31am

re: #255 FemNaziBitch

Nice shot! Photogs take note-Catch the instant. That’s your great shot. That one is textbook.

265 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:27:50am

re: #257 FemNaziBitch

Seagal is Whacked.

Seagal is just a few years older than me, and easily a 100 pounds heavier, judging from the photo. When we were younger, he could have whipped my ass easy. Now I figure I can run and move faster — enough it might be a pretty even match.

My ex loved Seagal’s movies. I’m sure I’ve exceeded the recommended maximum dosage of Under Siege several times over.

266 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 6:28:00am

Chances of American children on the border getting shot because they “look illegal” have risen again:

Jim Gilchrist Announces Grand Vision for New Minuteman Border Patrols in 2015

The Minuteman Project’s “Operation Normandy” has been launched as of 1200 hours Monday, July 7. This event will dwarf the original Minuteman Project of 2005. I expect at least 3,500 non-militia volunteers to participate, plus uncounted groups of militias from all over the country.

If you are familiar with the Normandy invasion of France in 1944, then you have an idea how large and logistically complicated this event will be. However, there is one difference. We are not going to the border to invade anyone. We are going there to stop an invasion.

Our federal, state, and community governments have failed to address and fix this calamity. In the spirit of our nation’s Founding Fathers, it is once again time to bring unprecedented national awareness to the decades-long illegal alien crisis jeopardizing the United States.

Participation is open to everyone and there is only one rule: whatever you do, stay within the rule of law.

It will take 10 months to recruit, organize, and launch this event, and it will cover the porous areas of the 2,000-mile border from San Diego, Ca. to Brownsville, Texas.

D-Day: 1 May, 2015.

267 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:29:02am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Adnan Oktar, aka Harun Yahya, well-known Muslim creationist and neo-Ottomanist.

Adnan “I used to deny Holocaust but then decided that instrumentalizing it against evolution is more effective” Oktar.

268 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:30:24am

re: #260 darthstar

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Someone who may top Steve King and Michelle Bachmann’s crazy. Wow.

269 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:30:25am

re: #260 darthstar

I read that, and thought it said “nxt gay Congressman.” It might be prophetic., Who knows?

270 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 6:30:54am

re: #266 Lidane

I think they’re trying to protect Normandy, Texas.

271 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:31:06am

Puppy Golden Retriever Comforts Older Dog During Nightmarehttps://Youtube Video

272 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 6:31:39am

re: #266 Lidane

So they’re going to portray the Germans on the Atlantic Wall in this little fantasy of theirs?

273 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 6:32:08am
274 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:32:16am

re: #260 darthstar

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Demagogues used to have food tasters, now they have texters.

275 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:32:20am

re: #266 Lidane

Chances of American children on the border getting shot because they “look illegal” have risen again:

Jim Gilchrist Announces Grand Vision for New Minuteman Border Patrols in 2015

Such patriots.

276 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:33:46am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

He wants creationism taught in public schools and unis. Not what I would call a secularist.

277 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:33:56am

re: #266 Lidane

I dunno. Their attention span is pretty short, and the date is May 2015. I figure most of them will have forgotten all about this so-called invasion by the time the November elections are past. Then, they’ll have a new outrage du jour to fret about.

278 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:34:00am

How does your dog wake you up?
Youtube Video

279 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:34:27am

re: #265 wheat-dogghazi

Seagal is just a few years older than me, and easily a 100 pounds heavier, judging from the photo. When we were younger, he could have whipped my ass easy. Now I figure I can run and move faster — enough it might be a pretty even match.

My ex loved Seagal’s movies. I’m sure I’ve exceeded the recommended maximum dosage of Under Siege several times over.

Confession: I enjoyed some of the earlier Seagal movies…but by the time of Under Siege I’d realized that he only had one script, and it was everyone else on the set trying to create a movie by acting around him. He was probably hell at set meals.
“Steven, can you pass the ketchup?”
(heavy sigh)
“You’d really like that, wouldn’t you? Well let me tell you what I’m going to do…”

280 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 6:34:40am
281 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:35:04am

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Someone who may top Steve King and Michelle Bachmann’s crazy. Wow.

Bachmann’s not running, and nature abhors a vacuum.

282 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 6:35:20am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

Sorry for your loss, SK.

283 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 6:35:24am
284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 6:35:38am
285 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:36:08am

re: #281 darthstar

Bachmann’s not running, and nature abhors a vacuum.

I know she’s not but she’s still among the most crazy in a crazy Congress.

286 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:36:17am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Horrible.

287 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 6:36:25am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

Baruch Dayan Emet.

288 Timothy Watson  Jul 23, 2014 6:37:24am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

I’ve met Oktar; he’s an…..interesting….chap, to put it mildly. He catches a lot of flak from hardcore Islamists, largely owing to his rather liberal interpretations of Islam.

That, and he advocates secularism. And art. And music. Needless to say, the hardcore Islamists find that to be a big no-no. There actually was a genuine, bona-fide attempt a year ago or so to assassinate him by al-Qaeda. He was a primary target on their Turkish shit list. They accused him of being a Mossad agent as well as a Freemason (that last one comes about because he was made an honorary Mason by the Grand Lodge of Italy, I believe).

Huh? He’s promoted anti-Freemason conspiracy theories for years per Wikipedia.

289 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:37:45am

re: #266 Lidane

Chances of American children on the border getting shot because they “look illegal” have risen again:

Jim Gilchrist Announces Grand Vision for New Minuteman Border Patrols in 2015

Gilchrist ordered his troops to storm Omaha Beach, so they drove to Nebraska.

290 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:38:30am
291 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 6:39:38am

re: #288 Timothy Watson

Huh? He’s promoted anti-Freemason conspiracy theories for years per Wikipedia.

Yep. Funny, that.

292 BadExampleMan  Jul 23, 2014 6:39:42am
293 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:39:55am

Local news- A school caught fire, lots of smoke several buildings involved, nobody hurt. The news anchor says ‘But the REAL news is a drone was spotted over the fire.” The traffic/news helicopter then goes on to fly toward and use the super telephoto setup to show us…. A phantom R/C quad with some little cam.

At this point I’d guess that drone was being run by a very local hobbyist or a very bold news video company just wanting a good view and footage of the fire. One of these indy crews that chase fire/police dispatch orders.

294 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:39:56am

re: #290 darthstar

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He complains about that and then he does the usual stupid the dead vote for Democrats crap. Didn’t he see how Sideshow Bob got elected? Not only human dead but dead animals too.

295 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:40:07am

re: #264 Rightwingconspirator

Nice shot! Photogs take note-Catch the instant. That’s your great shot. That one is textbook.

It’s a beautiful cat. Not my photo.

296 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 6:40:14am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

Very bad news this morning. My mother died suddenly about 3 hours ago. I will be out for a few days. She was 85 and outlived her own mother by just a year.
Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as I gather the family and we all say good bye to our mom, grandma, and great grandma.

Oh no. I’m so sorry to hear this, SK. My condolences to you and your family. :(

297 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:40:24am

re: #265 wheat-dogghazi

Seagal is just a few years older than me, and easily a 100 pounds heavier, judging from the photo. When we were younger, he could have whipped my ass easy. Now I figure I can run and move faster — enough it might be a pretty even match.

My ex loved Seagal’s movies. I’m sure I’ve exceeded the recommended maximum dosage of Under Siege several times over.

IIRC, even his x-wife says he is whacked.

298 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:40:31am

re: #290 darthstar

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A Red State Wedding?

299 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:41:09am

re: #279 darthstar

Under Siege is not all that bad, plus it has a completely over-the-top performance by Tommy Lee Jones. The other variants all seemed to feature Seagal in another vessel (sub, train, etc.) doing basically the same thing, or he was playing a honest cop being suckered by bad cops, or just a good cop trying to clean shit up. Same character, different names, different settings.

His later ones have less martial arts stuff and more Seagal lumbering around trying to run. Since my divorce, I have not watched one Seagal movie and never intend to.

300 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:41:29am
301 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 6:43:01am

re: #292 BadExampleMan

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PUTIN WILL KEEP THAT INFORMATION OUT OF THE NSA’S HANDS, THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS!

302 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 6:43:17am

Meanwhile, Russian separatists are cheering that they’ve downed two Ukrainian fighter jets near where Malaysian Air 17 was shot down.

The planes, both Su-125 jets, were struck in the vicinity of Saur Mogila, a town just west of the Russian border, said Aleksey Dmitrashkovsky, a spokesman for the Ukrainian armed forces. He said he had no information about the fate of the pilots.

But Bogdan Senik, a spokesman for the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, said a witness reported seeing at least one parachute open.

Vladislav Seleznev, a Ukrainian military spokesman in the eastern combat zone, said the two fighter jets were struck by antiaircraft missiles when they were flying in the same vicinity as Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, which was shot down last week with 298 passengers and crew on board. He said a pilot was the only person in each of the two military planes.

There is no such thing as a production model SU-125. There may have been prototypes of the ground attack plane, but nothing was ever put in production. It’s far more likely that the fighters shot down were SU-25s, which Ukraine does have.

It also highlights the fact that the separatists continue to have the weapons necessary to take down fighter planes and civilian aircraft.

303 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 6:43:35am

re:
#266

The Minuteman Project’s “Operation Normandy” has been launched

OFFS. Seriously, RWNJ, “Operation Normandy”?

304 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:44:43am

Been watching Hemlock Grove.

Really well done drama.

Famke Janssen would make an excellent Morticia Adams.

305 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:45:42am

re: #303 Bulworth

re:
#266

OFFS. Seriously, RWNJ, “Operation Normandy”?

Why not? They already think Obama is Hitler. Why not liken migrant children to the Wehrmacht.

306 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 6:46:10am
307 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:46:16am

It was actually the immigration issue that made me realize that Bush wasn’t peak wingnut in the slightest.

308 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 6:47:00am

re: #302 lawhawk

Sure, the WaPo columnist just made a typo (or doesn’t have the first idea…)

309 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:47:33am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

It was actually the immigration issue that made me realize that Bush wasn’t peak wingnut in the slightest.

That and his insistence that Islam was not horrible religion.

He did a good job of separating the criminals from the rank n’ file.

310 Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2014 6:47:38am

re: #245 lawhawk

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What’s next, locusts?

311 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:48:15am

re: #310 Eventual Carrion

What’s next, locusts?

frogs if Kilgore has anything to do withit.

312 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 6:48:51am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Why not? They already think Obama is Hitler. Why not liken migrant children to the Wehrmacht.

Except that in their scenario, they’re the Germans repelling the Allies storming the beach.

Methinks the Minutemen yahoos didn’t think that bit through too much.

313 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:02am

re: #309 FemNaziBitch

That and his insistence that Islam was not horrible religion.

He did a good job of separating the criminals from the rank n’ file.

I don’t disagree but for me personally it was seeing his approach to immigration which mirrored his approach to Muslims and Islam I’d add not so coincidentally. Have a lot of faults with how Bush ran our country but a xenophobic bigot he was not. Can’t say the same about Romney, Cruz, Santorum, and co.

314 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:07am

endthebacklog.org

315 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:29am

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

How does your dog wake you up?
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Video

Mine just jumps on the bed and stands on me. As he continues to grow and gain weight, it’s become amazingly effective.

Here’s a pic of our erstwhile puppy from yesterday.

I will soon weigh more than you, Human. Then…it’s on.

316 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:50am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

It was actually the immigration issue that made me realize that Bush wasn’t peak wingnut in the slightest.

The way that his own party fought him on it gave us a good inkling of things to come.

317 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:56am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I don’t disagree but for me personally it was seeing his approach to immigration which mirrored his approach to Muslims and Islam I’d add not so coincidentally. Have a lot of faults with how Bush ran our country but a xenophobic bigot he was not. Can’t say the same about Romney, Cruz, Santorum, and co.

I got the idea that he did try to take his Evangelical Faith to heart —not as a brainwashed drone.

318 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:59am

re: #303 Bulworth

re:
#266

OFFS. Seriously, RWNJ, “Operation Normandy”?

They should try Operation Normalcy.

I see that the head freeper is driving down from California to the Rio Grande Valley to personally yell at some brown children.

freerepublic.com

Likewise, if the people of Texas and of the rest of America wish to see our borders secured, our laws faithfully enforced and repel Obama’s illegal alien invasion, we’re going to have to bite the bullet and take individual action.

And so we independent units of the Bolinas Border Patrol and the Central Valley citizens militia are saddling up and marching to the border where we’ll be meeting up with our patriot brethren in Texas.

Will be reporting live along the way and from our encampments.

319 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:49:59am

re: #312 Lidane

Except that in their scenario, they’re the Germans repelling the Allies storming the beach.

Methinks the Minutemen yahoos didn’t think that bit through too much.

They never do think things through. Kind of like when genius Joe Miller or fellow genius Bill O’Reilly talk about their admiration for Reagan yet think building a wall that would resemble but be larger than the Berlin Wall would be a good ideea.

320 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:50:09am

re: #312 Lidane

Except that in their scenario, they’re the Germans repelling the Allies storming the beach.

Methinks the Minutemen yahoos didn’t think that bit through too much.

Analogies and history are not their strong suits. I bet they got really horrible SAT scores.

321 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:50:28am

re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The way that his own party fought him on it gave us a good inkling of things to come.

Foreshadowing, yes.

322 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:50:43am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

They never do think things through. Kind of like when genius Joe Miller or fellow genius Bill O’Reilly talk about their admiration for Reagan yet think building a wall that would resemble but be larger than the Berlin Wall would be a good ideea.

Reagan paid taxes —something the current crop of GOP billionaires doesn’t seem to do.

323 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:50:56am

re: #310 Eventual Carrion

What’s next, locusts?

Can we have the raining frogs? That was my favorite omen/plague.

324 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 6:51:50am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

They never do think things through. Kind of like when genius Joe Miller or fellow genius Bill O’Reilly talk about their admiration for Reagan yet think building a wall that would resemble but be larger than the Berlin Wall would be a good ideea.

No problem with funding it, just abolish all federal government organizations except the Department of Defense.

325 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:52:02am

re: #317 FemNaziBitch

I got the idea that he did try to take his Evangelical Faith to heart —not as a brainwashed drone.

I obviously don’t know the man but I really think his experiences in business as an oil man and then baseball team owner gave him a more reasonable picture of what immigrants go through. Obviously, I had my issues with the man but the Republican party has gotten much worse since he stopped being their standard bearer.

326 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:52:06am
327 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 6:52:25am

re: #318 b.d.

They should try Operation Normalcy.

I see that the head freeper is driving down from California to the Rio Grande Valley to personally yell at some brown children.

freerepublic.com

He’s going to scare some already scared grade school children.

328 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 6:52:35am

I saw this on FB yesterday. It really is a cute video.

329 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:52:36am
330 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:53:04am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

No problem with funding it, just abolish all federal government organizations except the Department of Defense.

Well I’m not talking about the funding aspect. I’m talking about how these guys can cheer Ronnie for Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall and yet want what would be an even bigger wall on our southern border than the Berlin Wall was.

331 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:53:31am

re: #329 FemNaziBitch

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332 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:53:44am

re: #326 darthstar

Never mind…it was the US-Canadian border.

333 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 6:54:19am

re: #329 FemNaziBitch

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Who told #RickPerry that looking like you are about to shoot a bunch of children was a good political move?

It’s called appealing to his base.

Booing soldiers, shooting kids, letting uninsured friends die, the GOP base eats that stuff up.

334 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 6:55:08am
335 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 6:55:17am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

Well I’m not talking about the funding aspect. I’m talking about how these guys can cheer Ronnie for Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall and yet want what would be an even bigger wall on our southern border than the Berlin Wall was.

they will insist that the wall is there to keep people out, not in.

336 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 6:56:00am

*THROWS FLAMING DESK OUT OF WINDOW*

337 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:56:01am
338 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:56:04am

re: #333 b.d.

It’s called appealing to his base.

Booing soldiers, shooting kids, letting uninsured friends die, the GOP base eats that stuff up.

He probably saw the nasty comments his fellow Texan Cruz got on facebook when he actually dared to show some humanity. I really think the GOP base more than ever is the problem than the politicians. I’ve been debating internally the question for a while but the problem is the base.

339 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:56:10am
340 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:56:24am

re: #335 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

they will insist that the wall is there to keep people out, not in.

Of course, they will.

341 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 6:56:45am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

I saw this on FB yesterday. It really is a cute video.

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Dude’s got his Cab Calloway moves down! NRBQ’s “Get Down Grandpa” could be about him…

Youtube Video

342 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:57:26am

re: #315 makeitstop

Mine just jumps on the bed and stands on me. As he continues to grow and gain weight, it’s become amazingly effective.

Here’s a pic of our erstwhile puppy from yesterday.

I will soon weigh more than you, Human. Then…it’s on.

ooooh, ear scratches from meeee!

343 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 6:57:48am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

Well I’m not talking about the funding aspect. I’m talking about how these guys can cheer Ronnie for Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall and yet want what would be an even bigger wall on our southern border than the Berlin Wall was.

And it’s not just the wall. Some of them want the United States to put land mines all along the southern border. You know, because land mines never drift and never indiscriminately kill. They also want snipers using lethal force and sharks with frickin’ laser beams in the Rio Grande.

344 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 6:58:41am

re: #343 Lidane

And it’s not just the wall. Some of them want the United States to put land mines all along the southern border. You know, because land mines never drift and never indiscriminately kill. They also want snipers using lethal force and sharks with frickin’ laser beams in the Rio Grande.

As I said, the base disgust me more than the politicians than pander to them. Some of these people would actually be happy if kids were shot down crossing the border.

345 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 6:58:44am

re: #343 Lidane

And it’s not just the wall. Some of them want the United States to put land mines all along the southern border. You know, because land mines never drift and never indiscriminately kill. They also want snipers using lethal force and sharks with frickin’ laser beams in the Rio Grande.

I always thought skunk musk or neon paint mines would be fun.

346 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 6:59:06am

Okay…time to walk the boys.

347 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 6:59:36am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

ooooh, ear scratches from meeee!

I will deliver those personally, thank you!

He’s turning into quite the handsome dog. He’s also turning into kind of a drool monster, but he’s mah dude.

348 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 7:00:24am
349 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 7:00:57am

NYC police looking for 4-5 climbers who replaced the Brooklyn Bridge flags in the wee hours of the morning.
abcnews.go.com

350 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 7:01:15am

re: #343 Lidane

And it’s not just the wall. Some of them want the United States to put land mines all along the southern border. You know, because land mines never drift and never indiscriminately kill. They also want snipers using lethal force and sharks with frickin’ laser beams in the Rio Grande.

Doesn’t Murica have a right to defend itself?

351 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 7:01:26am
352 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 7:02:37am

re: #349 wheat-dogghazi

NYC police looking for 4-5 climbers who replaced the Brooklyn Bridge flags in the wee hours of the morning.
abcnews.go.com

Hipster Homo Jihadis!

353 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 7:02:46am
354 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 7:03:24am
355 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 7:03:51am

re: #352 Ryan King

Hipster Homo Jihadis!

No sign of any PBR or Miller cans, though.

356 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 7:04:08am

For the photographer set who have National Park photos, Tamron’s running a photo contest to submit your best for the chance to win a 150-600 IS lens.

yellowstonepark.com

357 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 7:04:09am

bbl

358 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 7:09:39am

re: #355 wheat-dogghazi

No sign of any PBR or Miller cans, though.

I’m sure they escaped on Nortons or fixed gear bikes.

359 Alyosha  Jul 23, 2014 7:11:47am

Really must sleep. Be good to each other.

360 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 7:13:05am

They INDENTURE themselves you dumbshit.
INDENTURE, go look it up.

361 Bubblehead II  Jul 23, 2014 7:13:48am

I wonder how this is going to play out.

Medina to bill former Costco CEO for Obama visit costs

MEDINA, Wash. — The city of Medina says its taxpayers won’t be footing the bill for President Obama’s visit to former Costco CEO Jim Sinegal’s home as part of the president’s whirlwind fundraising tour Tuesday afternoon across the Seattle and Eastside areas.

Instead, they’re going to send the bill to Sinegal, according to Medina City Manager Mike Sauerwein.

362 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 7:15:29am

re: #360 Pie-onist Overlord

Plus, the paid that money out to get here. They can’t keep it.

363 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 7:15:29am

re: #360 Pie-onist Overlord

They INDENTURE themselves you dumbshit.
INDENTURE, go look it up.

You mean they get free dental care when they come here?

364 becominginvisible  Jul 23, 2014 7:15:44am

Watching Tour d’France live streams, NOS Netherlands stream cut to live landing of planes with victims of crash returning.

365 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 7:17:55am

Ted Cruz is butthurt about HBO’s True Blood:

“Of all the places I never thought to be mentioned, HBO’s True Blood vampire show would have to be near the top of the list,” Cruz wrote on his Facebook page. “Sunday night, they aired a misogynist and profanity-ridden episode where Texas Republicans are murdered attending a ‘Ted Cruz fundraiser.’”

In an episode that aired Sunday, two vampires go undercover as Texas Republicans to attend a gala in Cruz’s honor at the George W. Bush Presidential Library in Dallas, where they hope to track down a woman who helped introduce a disease that kills vampires. The gala quickly turns violent when a gang of thugs guns down the attendees in search of the same woman.

366 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:18:20am

re: #360 Pie-onist Overlord

They INDENTURE themselves you dumbshit.
INDENTURE, go look it up.

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Some of these pricks are incredibly stupid and I think purposely ignorant.

367 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:20:05am

re: #365 Lidane

Ted Cruz is butthurt about HBO’s True Blood:

Profanity.

That sure causes a lot of pain.

No really, my wife broke my jaw once by telling me to fuck off.

368 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 23, 2014 7:20:47am

re: #366 b_sharp

Some of these pricks are incredibly stupid and I think purposely ignorant.

My favorite quote (and my @geoffm33 twitter bio line):

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

Martin Luther King Jr.

369 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 7:21:15am

re: #365 Lidane

Shades of Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown.

370 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:22:54am

re: #365 Lidane

Ted Cruz is butthurt about HBO’s True Blood:

It’s interesting that Cruz can identify misogyny in cases where his party is not held in a favourable light but can’t or won’t see it when his fellow wingnuts pass bills laced with it.

371 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 7:23:39am
372 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 7:27:06am

re:
#360

If illegals are able to scrape together $5,000-7,000 to get here they’re actually better off than a lot of Americans.

Sounds like a lot of $$ to have to “scrap together”. Or are they alleging that trafficking groups pay this to them to immigrate?

373 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:28:33am

re: #371 NJDhockeyfan

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I love it when people throw poison into the well by stating ‘right thinking people’ wouldn’t do what the opponent did. In my eyes doing that immediately makes me suspect a problem with their argument.

374 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 7:29:12am

re:
#360

So the child migrants are walking around with $5k-$7k on them? Derp.

375 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 7:29:27am

re: #372 Bulworth

re:
#360

If illegals are able to scrape together $5,000-7,000 to get here they’re actually better off than a lot of Americans.

Sounds like a lot of $$ to have to “scrap together”. Or are they alleging that trafficking groups pay this to them to immigrate?

The migrants indenture themselves to the traffickers.

376 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 7:30:55am

I don’t even know where to begin with this pile of fail:

Gordon Klingenschmitt Says Those Who Can’t Enter Church Shouldn’t Be Able To Use Public Restrooms

WTF.

377 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 7:32:09am

re: #376 Lidane

He’s basically equating churches with toilets. Not sure he thought this through too well.

378 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:33:28am

re: #374 Bulworth

re:
#360

So the child migrants are walking around with $5k-$7k on them? Derp.

They have to pay the traffickers that money to transport them over the border. They get it by working it off once they get to the destination, sometimes through prostitution. The anti-immigration people want us to believe the illegal immigrants are rich enough in their original situations that they can afford to pay it outright.

379 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 7:34:13am

NRA Floats Idea Of Kids Needing To Show Gun Proficiency “To Advance To The Next Grade”

New NRA Commentary: “What If Instead Of Gun-Free Zones We Had Gun-Required Zones?”

380 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 7:34:26am

re: #376 Lidane

I don’t even know where to begin with this pile of fail:

Gordon Klingenschmitt Says Those Who Can’t Enter Church Shouldn’t Be Able To Use Public Restrooms

WTF.

Doesn’t Gordon have anything better to do than telling people where they can and cannot go to the bathroom?

381 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 7:34:48am

re: #379 Varek Raith

NRA Floats Idea Of Kids Needing To Show Gun Proficiency “To Advance To The Next Grade”

Really NRA. Fuck off and leave the kids out of your gun porno.

382 Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2014 7:35:03am

re: #376 Lidane

I don’t even know where to begin with this pile of fail:

Gordon Klingenschmitt Says Those Who Can’t Enter Church Shouldn’t Be Able To Use Public Restrooms

WTF.

Klingenschmitt needs a default asterisk at each mention, to remind us he’s the nutcase busted out of the navy chaplaincy for weirding it out.

383 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:35:18am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t Gordon have anything better to do than telling people where they can and cannot go to the bathroom?

He’s an evil deluded man.

384 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 7:35:21am

re: #377 wheat-dogghazi

He’s basically equating churches with toilets. Not sure he thought this through too well.

Well his church is like a toilet, it’s a great place to pinch a loaf.

385 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 7:35:45am

re: #383 b_sharp

He’s an evil deluded man.

As is pretty much the whole leadership of the religious right.

386 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 7:36:05am

Heh.

387 Timothy Watson  Jul 23, 2014 7:36:09am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t Gordon have anything better to do than telling people where they can and cannot go to the bathroom?

He’s obviously very anal retentive.

388 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 23, 2014 7:36:44am

re: #378 b_sharp

They have to pay the traffickers that money to transport them over the border. They get it by working it off once they get to the destination, sometimes through prostitution. The anti-immigration people want us to believe the illegal immigrants are rich enough in their original situations that they can afford to pay it outright.

I would be safe in saying most of the anti-immigration rank and file don’t have $5K to $7K just sitting around. So, how’s a campesino from east Nowhere, Latin America, going to have it?

389 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 7:37:06am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Heh.

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lol

390 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 7:37:26am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Code Pink still exists? Last I checked they had maybe a dozen people.

391 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 7:38:41am

re: #390 Lidane

Code Pink still exists? Last I checked they had maybe a dozen people.

PINK PANTHERS!

392 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 7:39:56am

re: #390 Lidane

Code Pink still exists? Last I checked they had maybe a dozen people.

Remember when Medea heckled Obama and he pwn3d her?

393 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 7:40:20am

re: #376 Lidane

I don’t even know where to begin with this pile of fail:

Gordon Klingenschmitt Says Those Who Can’t Enter Church Shouldn’t Be Able To Use Public Restrooms

WTF.

Gimme dat Old Time Religion. Let’s just make a deal: Klingenschmitt can spread this stuff all he wants if he agrees to live by the rules and proscriptions of Deuteronomy

394 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 7:40:49am
395 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 7:41:22am
396 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 7:47:31am

re: #395 Pie-onist Overlord

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I’ve been thinking about what a “real” conversation about the conflict might be like. It’s hard to imagine but we aren’t even in the ball park yet. Not even close.

399 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 7:50:59am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Heh.

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Israel’s adopting the cop-killer flag now too?

400 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 7:52:57am

re: #399 darthstar

Israel’s adopting the cop-killer flag now too?

Actually, that’s just a pro-Israel teabagger. A group that loves nothing more than killing brown people is not exactly the support Israel needs.

401 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 23, 2014 7:55:06am

The UN was unavailble for comment…

402 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 7:55:37am
403 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 7:56:27am

re: #397 Lidane

Rebranding!

GOP Candidate In Arizona Promises To Fight ‘The Gay Lobby,’ Stop Illegal Immigration ‘Before It’s Too Late’

My ex-girlfriend, who really wanted to marry me and whom I dumped just before she took her LSAT exams, went on to graduate 3rd in her class of University of Arizona Law School and became an assistant attorney general for Arizona and has been one of the people writing a lot of Arizona’s anti-gay marriage legislation.

I apologize, gays of Arizona, if I had only gone on and married her, this would not have happened. But since she could not get the man she wanted, she is out to make sure that NOBODY does…

404 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 7:56:35am

re: #402 darthstar

The missing comma isn’t the problem, the word ‘crash’ is.

405 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 7:56:42am
406 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 23, 2014 7:56:55am

re: #396 Killgore Trout

I’ve been thinking about what a “real” conversation about the conflict might be like. It’s hard to imagine but we aren’t even in the ball park yet. Not even close.

Who do you mean by ‘we’? Lawhawk and I managed to have a real conversation about the conflict the other day.

407 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 7:57:50am

re: #394 Killgore Trout

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What does Hamas use these tunnels for?

408 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 7:58:31am

re: #407 b_sharp

What does Hamas use these tunnels for?

Cake and ice cream.

409 Mattand  Jul 23, 2014 7:59:26am

re: #406 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Who do you mean by ‘we’? Lawhawk and I managed to have a real conversation about the conflict the other day.

Doesn’t count. You guys take actual stances on positions.

410 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:01:23am

re: #404 darthstar

The missing comma isn’t the problem, the word ‘crash’ is.

What word would you substitute for crash?

Disaster? Crime? Horror? Attack?

411 Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2014 8:02:42am

re: #409 Mattand

Doesn’t count. You guys take actual stances on positions.

And don’t weakly bring up Code Pink.

412 piratedan  Jul 23, 2014 8:02:47am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

and Pink jumpsuits, welcome to Joe Arpaio’s Maricopa County Prison system

413 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:02:58am

re: #403 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My ex-girlfriend, who really wanted to marry me and whom I dumped just before she took her LSAT exams, went on to graduate 3rd in her class of University of Arizona Law School and became an assistant attorney general for Arizona and has been one of the people writing a lot of Arizona’s anti-gay marriage legislation.

I apologize, gays of Arizona, if I had only gone on and married her, this would not have happened. But since she could not get the man she wanted, she is out to make sure that NOBODY does…

IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT!!!

:0

414 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:03:33am

re: #408 Varek Raith

Cake and ice cream.

Are they using them to smuggle bombs into Israel?

Move rockets?

What makes them important?

415 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 8:03:37am

re: #410 b_sharp

What word would you substitute for crash?

Disaster? Crime? Horror? Attack?

Attack is probably the right word but I’d put the word missile in front of it.

416 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 8:04:54am

Democrats are teh real racists!

National Review Writer Blasts Dem Support Of Jim Crow, Ignores Magazine’s Own Support

Fund went on to invoke arguments familiar to anyone who’s heard a conservative try to explain why Democrats are the real racists, reminding readers that Woodrow Wilson had a horrible record on race relations, that a larger percentage of congressional Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and that the late Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) was once a member of the Ku Klux Klan.

He only blithely alluded to Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy,” which, coupled with Lyndon B. Johnson’s support of civil rights legislation, helped cement a half-century of voting patterns in the old Confederate states: black voters flocked to the Democratic Party while white voters shifted to the GOP in droves.

417 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:05:41am

re: #378 b_sharp

They have to pay the traffickers that money to transport them over the border. They get it by working it off once they get to the destination, sometimes through prostitution. The anti-immigration people want us to believe the illegal immigrants are rich enough in their original situations that they can afford to pay it outright.

Making the case for guest worker visa (or some such status). Exploitation of the undocumented is EVIL and we are allowing it to happen.

418 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:05:55am

re: #416 Lidane

Democrats are teh real racists!

National Review Writer Blasts Dem Support Of Jim Crow, Ignores Magazine’s Own Support

Seriously NRO. Next NRO will complain about McCarthyism.

419 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 8:06:12am

re: #413 FemNaziBitch

IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT!!!

:0

AFAIK, she is still single. A lapsed Catholic, there were parts of their thinking that she just could not shake.

Good news is that she will be retiring in 2016…

420 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 8:06:25am

re: #416 Lidane

Democrats are teh real racists!

National Review Writer Blasts Dem Support Of Jim Crow, Ignores Magazine’s Own Support

HURR HURR TEH SOUTHERN STRATEGERY NEVER HAPPENED, LIBRULS MADE IT UP LIKE GLOBULL WARMING!!!!!!

421 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 23, 2014 8:07:29am

re: #409 Mattand

Doesn’t count. You guys take actual stances on positions.

Sadly, the result of the conversation was that the stances of leaders on both sides prevent anything moving forwards right now.

Bibi and the far-right nationalist hardliners that he’s allied with are not at all interested in an actual peace process at the moment, or to put it more fairly to them, they don’t believe it’s possible.

This does not, note, justify the use of indiscriminate violence by Hamas. That also isn’t going to move a peace process forward.

422 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 8:07:30am

re: #411 Stanley Sea

And don’t weakly bring up Code Pink.

Bonus for UN + Code Pink + Occupy reference.

423 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 8:07:30am

re: #414 b_sharp

Are they using them to smuggle bombs into Israel?

Move rockets?

What makes them important?

Serious question? They use them to infiltrate Israel in attempt to launch attacks and kidnappings across the border. Also used for missile storage and general movement of fighters from one place to another.

424 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:07:44am

re: #410 b_sharp

What word would you substitute for crash?

Disaster? Crime? Horror? Attack?

The job of an editor is to reduce verbiage and make sure the concept being conveyed is clear. Dropping crash doesn’t diminish the point being conveyed.

Substituting incident for crash conveys that we don’t know all the facts/circumstances. Crash indicates how the flight eventually ended.

Alternatively, commas added thusly would convey things much more clearly:

Dutch military plane, carrying victims from Malaysian Air Flt. 17 crash, landed in Netherlands.

I’d probably have written it as: Dutch military plane, carrying victims from Malaysian Air Flt. 17 incident, landed in Netherlands.

425 The War TARDIS  Jul 23, 2014 8:08:06am

Meanwhile, Jordan is about to buckle.

Jordan’s Quiet Emergency

Wonder if we will do anything to help, like resettle them here or try to give Jordan aid.

Oh wait, second one won’t happen. We have to give Israel billions in foreign aid every year.

426 Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2014 8:08:44am

re: #327 wheat-dogghazi

He’s going to scare some already scared grade school children.

If he scares anybody else they might give him the swift kick in the nuts he deserves.

Bullies never pick on people who can fight back.

427 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:10:12am

re: #420 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR TEH SOUTHERN STRAGERY NEVER HAPPENED, LIBRULS MADE IT UP LIKE GLOBULL WARMING!!!!!!

It really doesn’t matter. It’s a case of - what have you done for us lately. The GOP has implemented racist and misogynistic laws, leaders of the Tea Party have been vocally racist, as have their elected reps but the Dems are the ones trying to continue the civil rights gains made since the 60s.

428 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:10:13am

re: #423 Killgore Trout

Serious question? They use them to infiltrate Israel in attempt to launch attacks and kidnappings across the border. Also used for missile storage and general movement of fighters from one place to another.

It depends on where this particular tunnel was found. If it was found along the Egypt-Gaza border, then it would be for smuggling items in and out of Gaza so as to avoid the Rafah border crossing and Egyptian security. Weapons are among the items being smuggled, along with general contraband as well as people.

If the tunnel is along the Israel-Gaza border, then the purpose is meant to allow Hamas to infiltrate Israel so as to carry out attacks that couldn’t be done through the missile and rocket barrages. Those attacks include the attempts to kidnap Israelis, including soldiers patrolling along the border with Gaza.

429 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:11:57am

re: #423 Killgore Trout

Serious question? They use them to infiltrate Israel in attempt to launch attacks and kidnappings across the border. Also used for missile storage and general movement of fighters from one place to another.

Yes it was a serious question.

Can Israel not close off the entrances to those tunnels within their own borders?

430 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:13:09am

re: #425 The War TARDIS

You’ve got a million refugees from Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq and NGOs, the UN, and Jordanian efforts are quite overloaded. As that article notes, the refugees Jordan has taken in is like the US adding the population of Canada in one shot. It’s just not possible to provide adequate humanitarian care and services for all of them.

The solution is to grant assistance, which has been done, both directly to the Jordanian government, through UNHCR, and trying to settle down the conflicts in those neighboring countries so their refugees can return from where they came.

But because the fighting continues along its borders, this would be a Herculean task and not likely to be concluded anytime soon.

431 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 8:13:15am

re: #428 lawhawk

It depends on where this particular tunnel was found. If it was found along the Egypt-Gaza border, then it would be for smuggling items in and out of Gaza so as to avoid the Rafah border crossing and Egyptian security. Weapons are among the items being smuggled, along with general contraband as well as people.

If the tunnel is along the Israel-Gaza border, then the purpose is meant to allow Hamas to infiltrate Israel so as to carry out attacks that couldn’t be done through the missile and rocket barrages. Those attacks include the attempts to kidnap Israelis, including soldiers patrolling along the border with Gaza.

Since this is part of the recent operations I assume it’s on the Israel Gaza border.

432 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:14:16am

re: #424 lawhawk

The job of an editor is to reduce verbiage and make sure the concept being conveyed is clear. Dropping crash doesn’t diminish the point being conveyed.

Substituting incident for crash conveys that we don’t know all the facts/circumstances. Crash indicates how the flight eventually ended.

Alternatively, commas added thusly would convey things much more clearly:

Dutch military plane, carrying victims from Malaysian Air Flt. 17 crash, landed in Netherlands.

I’d probably have written it as: Dutch military plane, carrying victims from Malaysian Air Flt. 17 incident, landed in Netherlands.

I wasn’t trying to say the comma wasn’t necessary, just that if I, dumb as I am, can come up with a clearer message by changing out one word they could too.

433 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:14:24am

re: #427 b_sharp

It really doesn’t matter. It’s a case of - what have you done for us lately. The GOP has implemented racist and misogynistic laws, leaders of the Tea Party have been vocally racist, as have their elected reps but the Dems are the ones trying to continue the civil rights gains made since the 60s.

Yep. They can bring up 19th century political dynamics all they want and ignore that their party and ideology happily welcomed in Dixiecrats but the fact of the matter is since the 60’s by and large the Democratic Party has taken the lead on issues involving gender, racial, religious, and sexual orientation equality more so than the Republican ones. They love to bring up the unproved LBJ quote or that more Republicans voted for the CRA of 1964 but ignore that their very party nominated an opponent of the law for president that same year and pretty much every Republican presidential candidate has embraced some form of the Southern Strategy from Nixon to Romney.

434 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:14:29am

Where else? The Cayman Islands:

435 The War TARDIS  Jul 23, 2014 8:15:01am

re: #430 lawhawk

We could help more, but we aren’t is the point. Why does Israel need foreign aid from us? Those hundreds of millions of dollars we just gave to Israel could have been used to try to help Jordan out for a few months.

436 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 8:15:07am

re: #424 lawhawk

The job of an editor is to reduce verbiage and make sure the concept being conveyed is clear. Dropping crash doesn’t diminish the point being conveyed.

Substituting incident for crash conveys that we don’t know all the facts/circumstances. Crash indicates how the flight eventually ended.

Alternatively, commas added thusly would convey things much more clearly:

Dutch military plane, carrying victims from Malaysian Air Flt. 17 crash, landed in Netherlands.

I’d probably have written it as: Dutch military plane, carrying victims from Malaysian Air Flt. 17 incident, landed in Netherlands.

Ok. But was it a “crash”? The plane didn’t crash it exploded. I know this is semantics but I’m curious. I know that if you blow up a ship they still call it a sinking, what do people that blow airplanes out of the sky call it in their industry?

437 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:15:11am

re: #428 lawhawk

It depends on where this particular tunnel was found. If it was found along the Egypt-Gaza border, then it would be for smuggling items in and out of Gaza so as to avoid the Rafah border crossing and Egyptian security. Weapons are among the items being smuggled, along with general contraband as well as people.

If the tunnel is along the Israel-Gaza border, then the purpose is meant to allow Hamas to infiltrate Israel so as to carry out attacks that couldn’t be done through the missile and rocket barrages. Those attacks include the attempts to kidnap Israelis, including soldiers patrolling along the border with Gaza.

Thanks for the info.

438 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 23, 2014 8:15:53am

re: #303 Bulworth

re:
#266

OFFS. Seriously, RWNJ, “Operation Normandy”?

Typo. It was supposed to be Norm-For-A-Day and they were going to all go take over a bar and drink beer while philosophizing about the freedoms of the ancient Babylonians.

439 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 8:15:54am

re: #417 FemNaziBitch

Making the case for guest worker visa (or some such status). Exploitation of the undocumented is EVIL and we are allowing it to happen.

The agriculture, construction, restaurant, and hospitality industries alone make a case for guest worker visas, since without undocumented immigrants, they’d all collapse. It’s absurd that we exploit their labor for our benefit and then threaten to deport them if they step out of line.

440 Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2014 8:18:00am

re: #376 Lidane

I don’t even know where to begin with this pile of fail:

Gordon Klingenschmitt Says Those Who Can’t Enter Church Shouldn’t Be Able To Use Public Restrooms

WTF.

According to my wife the passage Klingenschmitt (he really needs to get over his name) cited is actually in Leviticus and so applies only to the tribe of Levi.

Fail, dirtbag!

ETA: My wife was incorrect about the passage being in Leviticus. We should have checked before I posted. My bad.

But she points out that since this is the Old Testament this passage is directed at the Israelites and not the whole world.

So Klingenschmitt (who really needs to get over his name) still failed.

441 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:18:14am

re: #439 Lidane

The agriculture, construction, restaurant, and hospitality industries alone make a case for guest worker visas, since without undocumented immigrants, they’d all collapse. It’s absurd that we exploit their labor for our benefit and then threaten to deport them if they step out of line.

They pay taxes on everything they buy too, don’t they?

442 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 8:18:19am

re: #434 FemNaziBitch

Where else? The Cayman Islands:

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If corporations can be people, why can’t internal organs be corporations?

443 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:19:14am

re: #429 b_sharp

You’d have to identify, locate, and target them. Hamas has gotten progressively more sophisticated in its tunnels, so finding them has been even more difficult.

The situation could be akin to the US experience in the Cu Chi region of Vietnam, where the Viet Cong built hundreds of miles of tunnels from which they launched incessant attacks and all kinds of technological efforts fell short of eliminating the tunnel threat until a combination of Tunnel Rats and B-52 airborne attacks with large bombs revealed the extent of the tunneling.

Now consider that the region in question in Gaza and adjoining Israel is heavily populated and used for agriculture (particularly on the Israeli side) making airborne bombing a non-starter since it would destroy the livelihood of Israelis on their side of the border.

444 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 8:19:28am

oh good grief…

445 szilard  Jul 23, 2014 8:19:34am

If anyone is interested, here is the video from where the Guardian picture originates, the one with the soldier holding up the toy:
Youtube Video
At ~60 second is that part.

446 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:21:22am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief…

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No cartel murderers here Glenn. Maybe just maybe you have your head up your fat ass again. And fuck Rand Paul for being his usual pandering himself for going along with this libelous bastard.

447 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:23:05am

re: #435 The War TARDIS

The US provides significant aid to Jordan. Foreign aid signed into law earlier this year provided $360 million in civil aid, and $300 million in military aid to Jordan. The foreign assistance is also constrained by the sequester.

Should Jordan get more aid? Absolutely.

That report linked above also indicates that U.S. officials have noted that of the $1.7 billion in total U.S. multilateral funding for the Syrian humanitarian crisis, the United States has provided more than $268 million toward the humanitarian needs of Syrian refugees in Jordan.

448 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 8:24:32am

re: #429 b_sharp

Yes it was a serious question.

Can Israel not close off the entrances to those tunnels within their own borders?

The tunnel networks are quite extensive. IIRC estimates are that Hamas has spent $10 million building them up. It’s too risky to leave them with that much underground infrastructure. More info here: time.com

449 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:25:23am

Man reading about the Australian couple that lost their three kids on the flight. One is tragic. Three? I don’t even know the word for it.

450 Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2014 8:25:30am

re: #394 Killgore Trout

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Which proves the UN supports Hamas! /////

451 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 8:25:34am

re: #441 b_sharp

They pay taxes on everything they buy too, don’t they?

If they’re here in Texas, then yeah. Sales taxes on everything. Social Security and Medicare and all the usual deductions out of their paychecks unless their employer pays them in cash. No insurance so they rely on the ER for medical care if they need it, or on doctors that will look the other way and not ask too many questions.

But of course, they’re the ones taking advantage of the system. It’s not the employers who want (or in the case of agriculture, need) immigrant labor exploiting them that’s the problem. :-p

452 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:27:08am
453 Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2014 8:28:17am

re: #419 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

AFAIK, she is still single. A lapsed Catholic, there were parts of their thinking that she just could not shake.

Good news is that she will be retiring in 2016…

I’m sure she has a nice wingnut welfare position lined up.

454 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:28:56am

re: #452 FemNaziBitch

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Love thy neighbor eh Fox. This is the same mindset that rejects benefits for 9/11 first responders since some of them may be “illegals.”

455 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:30:04am
456 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 8:31:16am

re: #452 FemNaziBitch

Not to mention, what about legal residents, tourists, etc. who may not be citizens, though here legally?
What is with this “citizens only” mentality?

457 bratwurst  Jul 23, 2014 8:31:24am
458 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:31:31am

THIS IS ME!!!!! I still can’t find that damned box.

459 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:31:42am

re: #457 bratwurst

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Awww.

460 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 8:34:43am
461 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:35:00am
“One father of two of the girls kidnapped just went into a kind of coma and kept repeating the names of his daughters, until life left him,” said Bitrus.

Pged

462 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 8:35:06am

The grift that keeps on giving:

Fed. Judge To Hear Arguments In True The Vote Mississippi Case Thursday

A federal judge in Texas will hear oral arguments on Thursday in True the Vote’s lawsuit seeking Mississippi election from the U.S. Senate primary runoff records, according to the Clarion-Ledger.

True the Vote, a Tea Party-aligned group that has made voter fraud its primary issue, sued the Mississippi secretary of State and the state Republican Party.

Ready! Fire! Aim!

I will never stop laughing at all the drama caused by some blah people voting in an open GOP primary. The RWNJ explosions over this are fantastic.

463 Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2014 8:35:38am

re: #441 b_sharp

They pay taxes on everything they buy too, don’t they?

Yep, and if they are using a fake Social Security #, they are paying into that fund. For years. And they cannot collect it in the end.

464 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:36:18am

re: #452 FemNaziBitch

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What stupid people they are. Shockingly ignorant brain dead people.

465 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 8:37:08am

re: #453 Romantic Heretic

I’m sure she has a nice wingnut welfare position lined up.

She worked hard and lived frugally. I wish her a fruitful, non-political retirement.

466 Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2014 8:38:00am

re: #442 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If corporations can be people, why can’t internal organs be corporations?

What else could be more closely held?

467 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 8:38:18am

re:
#452

These are really awful people.

468 sattv4u2  Jul 23, 2014 8:38:40am

Quick respite from our staff meeting

My brain,,, it hurts

((so much for my “day off))

469 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 8:39:14am

re:
#462

Please proceed…..

470 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:40:43am

re: #468 sattv4u2

Quick respite from our staff meeting

My brain,,, it hurts

((so much for my “day off))

I hate meetings.

471 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:41:20am

re: #452 FemNaziBitch

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911: How can we help you?

Injured person: My wife is having trouble breathing.

911: I noticed you have an accent. Are you an illegal immigrant?

IP:

911: Sir, are you an illegal immigrant?

IP: Help me, my wife is dying!!

911: Are you an illegal immigrant?

IP (crying): Yes, yes I am. Please help. I don’t know what to do!

911: Sir, you need to return to Mexico. Goodbye.

472 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 8:41:59am

BOOTSTRAPS!

473 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:42:11am
474 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 23, 2014 8:42:16am

re: #443 lawhawk

You’d have to identify, locate, and target them. Hamas has gotten progressively more sophisticated in its tunnels, so finding them has been even more difficult.

The situation could be akin to the US experience in the Cu Chi region of Vietnam, where the Viet Cong built hundreds of miles of tunnels from which they launched incessant attacks and all kinds of technological efforts fell short of eliminating the tunnel threat until a combination of Tunnel Rats and B-52 airborne attacks with large bombs revealed the extent of the tunneling.

Now consider that the region in question in Gaza and adjoining Israel is heavily populated and used for agriculture (particularly on the Israeli side) making airborne bombing a non-starter since it would destroy the livelihood of Israelis on their side of the border.

Cu Chi is basically a sort of national park in Vietnam now. I went there when I spent 2-3 days there at the tail end of the Malaysia visit. They’ve widened the tunnels a bit so that the tourists can fit through them better. And they’re (rightfully) proud of kicking the butts of those who carpet bombed farmers.

The picture I’ve posted of someone going in/out of a spider hole is from there. And there are identifiable bomb craters all about the area still as well.

475 bratwurst  Jul 23, 2014 8:42:58am
476 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:42:59am

re: #458 FemNaziBitch

THIS IS ME!!!!! I still can’t find that damned box.

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If you can’t find it, how is your husband supposed to find it?

477 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:43:33am

re: #476 b_sharp

If you can’t find it, how is your husband supposed to find it?

I thought men had some special spidey sense about these things …

:0

478 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 8:43:43am

re: #471 b_sharp

I know how to solve the issue: lets have a MANDATORY NATIONAL ID CARD for all citizens and legal resident aliens and a CENTRAL REGISTER at which the 9/11 dispatcher can check names and addresses.

Simple and easy, right?

Probably cheaper than a fence in any case.

/

479 BeachDem  Jul 23, 2014 8:44:36am

re: #265 wheat-dogghazi

This Kathy Griffin take on Seagal’s “Lawman” tv show is hilarious. (First 4:30 of the clip)

Youtube Video

480 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:44:40am

481 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:44:57am

re: #478 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I know how to solve the issue: lets have a MANDATORY NATIONAL ID CARD for all citizens and legal resident aliens and a CENTRAL REGISTER at which the 9/11 dispatcher can check names and addresses.

Simple and easy, right?

Probably cheaper than a fence in any case.

/

BUT THAT IS COMMUNISM!!!!!

482 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:45:00am

re: #473 FemNaziBitch

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So in short, Republicans are showing why they’re the fuck you, I got mine party.

483 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:46:12am

2 HRS AGO / THE DAILY SHOW
‘The Daily Show’ Wants to Buy CNN, but They Need Your Help

484 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:47:50am
485 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:48:22am

re: #477 FemNaziBitch

I thought men had some special spidey sense about these things …

:0

We just fumble about in the dark.
It’s almost a random thing.

486 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:48:59am

re: #484 FemNaziBitch

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That’s lame even for her. Really blaming a song? Own up to your mistake Sarah, I know humility isn’t your strong suit but still.

487 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:49:08am
488 sattv4u2  Jul 23, 2014 8:49:25am

re: #485 b_sharp

We just fumble about in the dark.
It’s almost a random thing.

Speak for yourself.,.

I fumble around just as much and as well in the dark or light

489 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 8:50:11am

re: #478 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I know how to solve the issue: lets have a MANDATORY NATIONAL ID CARD for all citizens and legal resident aliens and a CENTRAL REGISTER at which the 9/11 dispatcher can check names and addresses.

Simple and easy, right?

Probably cheaper than a fence in any case.

/

I’m hoping the 911 operator is too busy helping the caller to worry about asking for legal status.

Besides, people will just learn to lie about it.

490 Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2014 8:51:00am

Lawhawk alert. Vacationers on Lake Hopatcong are going to need a bigger trap:

google.com

491 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:51:30am

re: #489 b_sharp

I’m hoping the 911 operator is too busy helping the caller to worry about asking for legal status.

Besides, people will just learn to lie about it.

You’d think and hope the kind of person that signs up to become a dispatcher is the kind of person that doesn’t care about the status of a person in danger.

492 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:51:35am
493 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:52:28am

re: #490 Decatur Deb

Eh, never been there. I work in NYC, where we’ve got RoUS. Far more troublesome than a mystery snake.

494 gwangung  Jul 23, 2014 8:53:07am

re: #491 HappyWarrior

You’d think and hope the kind of person that signs up to become a dispatcher is the kind of person that doesn’t care about the status of a person in danger.

Yeah. And just HOW is the person needing 911 help going to “prove” his citizenship status? Think about that (and the fact that looking stuff up takes time).

495 Bubblehead II  Jul 23, 2014 8:53:10am

Lovely. Power just went out. Have 45 minutes left on the UPS before I get shut down as well

496 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:53:29am

re: #492 FemNaziBitch

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They delayed a big transportation project here in NOVA because some of the workers were OMG UNION.

497 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 23, 2014 8:53:47am

Morning fellow Lizards

498 Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2014 8:53:50am

re: #493 lawhawk

Eh, never been there. I work in NYC, where we’ve got RoUS. Far more troublesome than a mystery snake.

Thought you were in N. Jersey. I worked at Picatinny, near Hopatcong.

499 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:54:08am

re: #494 gwangung

Yeah. And just HOW is the person needing 911 help going to “prove” his citizenship status? Think about that (and the fact that looking stuff up takes time).

Well these are the same blockheads that think you can just deport all the illegals and build a wall and no worries.

500 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:54:36am

Albany is a cesspool, and Cuomo had been pushing for an ethics reform to clean it up. Then he noticed that the commission began poking around his own campaign financers, so he put the kibosh on it.

He has been a mess in Albany, but his opponents in November are just awful - Rob Astorino and Zephyr Teachout.

501 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 8:54:59am

re: #498 Decatur Deb

I live in Bergen County, but work in NYC.

502 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 8:57:13am

re: #491 HappyWarrior

You’d think and hope the kind of person that signs up to become a dispatcher is the kind of person that doesn’t care about the status of a person in danger.

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE THE ONES WHO CAN PAY FOR THEM! Privatize everything! Eleventy!

503 sattv4u2  Jul 23, 2014 8:57:19am

re: #501 lawhawk

I live in Bergen County, but work in NYC.

Used to go there (from Boston) every other weekend for almost two years for a gig I had teaching back in the early 80’s

504 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 8:58:02am

re: #502 Lidane

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE THE ONES WHO CAN PAY FOR THEM! Privatize everything! Eleventy!

What’s sad is this is a real world view.

505 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 8:59:15am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

Well these are the same blockheads that think you can just deport all the illegals and build a wall and no worries.

Yep. Because rounding up and deporting millions of people will be cheap and easy and totally doable without expanding the size and scope of the government.

Also, I’m sure that only white people with citizenship papers will build that wall, and that all the private land that would have to be seized via eminent domain to build said wall will be given up willingly. ////////

506 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 8:59:46am
507 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:00:38am

re: #505 Lidane

Yep. Because rounding up and deporting millions of people will be cheap and easy and totally doable without expanding the size and scope of the government.

Also, I’m sure that only white people with citizenship papers will build that wall, and that all the private land that would have to be seized via eminent domain to build said wall will be given up willingly. ////////

Fiscal responsibility.//

508 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:00:42am

Bezler’s people allegedly burned ~25 Nat. Guard soldiers alive in a building in Dzerzhinsk, as they say now, to avenge the “Odessa Khatyn”. Seen some brutal videos of that, won’t post.

509 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:00:42am

re: #488 sattv4u2

Speak for yourself.,.

I fumble around just as much and as well in the dark or light

It was a metaphor for ‘we couldn’t find our asses if our hands were tied behind our backsides.’.

510 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:01:53am

re: #501 lawhawk

I live in Bergen County, but work in NYC.

A punk rocker from Paterson once broke my heart. Of course that’s next door in Passaic County, but 35 years later I still whine about it every chance I get.

511 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2014 9:03:15am

OT:

So I finally got around to knocking an item off my bucket list and at long last started my own blog. I am a writer of many things, but my heart is in poetry.

I didn’t start it to make money. It’s a labor of love thing but I have been enjoying it thus far.

I am currently doing it on Blogger. My goal is when I manage to save up a bit of money to spin it off to its own independent site. I’m learning as I go, especially with regards to the finer points of layout and design so bear with me.

Thanks to Charles for allowing me to share this and to the LGF community for being so supportive of one another.

The blog can be found here: Man…Spirit…Pen

512 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:03:37am
513 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 9:04:29am

re: #512 Pie-onist Overlord

Quoting mondoweiss as mainstream press? Is he nuts?

514 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:04:55am

re: #513 lawhawk

Quoting mondoweiss as mainstream press? Is he nuts?

You know the answer to that.

515 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:05:22am

Funnily enough, MCain is seen in Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. almost as some US official who decides something, represents some official POV…

516 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 9:05:29am

re: #450 Romantic Heretic

Which proves the UN supports Hamas! /////

The reason why that pic is significant is because after the soldiers leave the owner of that house is going to return, take a pic of the tattered/destroy UN food bags and post it online claiming the Israelis are destroying UN food stockpiles. There’s even a decent chance a media stringer is going to come along and sell the pics to Reuters, AFP etc. That’s how this stuff works. The UN’s role in perpetuating/enabling to conflict is a separate issue. Have they returned the rockets found yesterday in the UN school to the terrorists who own them?

517 Timothy Watson  Jul 23, 2014 9:05:32am

I’m in the process of reading the The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and, at the risk of Godwinning, thought this paragraph was interesting:

It [poverty] never, however drove him [Adolf Hitler] to the extremity of trying to find a regular job. As he makes clear in Mein Kampf, he had the petty bourgeoisie’s gnawing fear of sliding back into the ranks of the proletariat, of the manual laborers—a fear he was later to exploit in building up the National Socialist Party on the broad foundation of the hitherto leaderless, ill-paid, neglected white-collar class, whose millions nourished the illusion that they were at least socially better off than the “workers.”

518 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 9:05:55am
519 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:06:07am

re: #515 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Funnily enough, MCain is seen in Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. almost as some US official who decides something, represents some official POV…

Well that’s because McCain is the Will Rodgers of cameras. He never met one he didn’t like.

520 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:06:21am

Todd Starnes being a shitty excuse for a “journalist” again:

Another Bogus Fox News Report: The University Of Wisconsin Will ‘Adjust The Grades’ Of Minority Students

521 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 9:06:31am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

I’m in the process of reading the The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and, at the risk of Godwinning, though this paragraph was interesting:

GREAT book.

worth re-reading at differnt stages of life.

522 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 9:08:07am

re: #494 gwangung

Yeah. And just HOW is the person needing 911 help going to “prove” his citizenship status? Think about that (and the fact that looking stuff up takes time).

(sekrit handshake)

shh!

523 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 9:09:16am

re: #520 Lidane

Todd Starnes being a shitty excuse for a “journalist” again:

Another Bogus Fox News Report: The University Of Wisconsin Will ‘Adjust The Grades’ Of Minority Students

see my #487

524 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:09:24am
525 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 9:09:29am

re: #512 Pie-onist Overlord

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STAFF OF 30, 2 STORIES IN A MONTH ON ISRAEL FROM THE FINEST STABLE OF DUDEBRO JOURNALISTS IN TEH WORLD.

Nope. Pierre hasn’t told you not to write about certain things, it’s that he pays you and you don’t write at all.

526 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:11:01am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

I’m in the process of reading the The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and, at the risk of Godwinning, though this paragraph was interesting:

Still need to read that.

527 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:11:15am

re:
#520

Did Todd get his “reporting” job at Faux based on merit or because of his political views? Hey, I’m just asking questions…..

528 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 9:11:37am

529 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:11:44am

re: #523 FemNaziBitch

see my #487

Ah. Yeah, I missed that. Work blocks Twitter, FB and all the social networks except LinkedIn, so I don’t see tweets as anything but text.

530 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:11:56am

LOLWUT

531 sattv4u2  Jul 23, 2014 9:12:45am

Ah well

Back to meeting hell

532 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:13:06am

Nope. No hyperbole here:

William Gheen: Undocumented Immigrants More Dangerous ‘Than Anything Al Qaeda Could Blow Up’

Speaking with TPNN host Larry Altman on July 8, Gheen said that undocumented immigrants would “displace millions of American workers, cost untold Americans their lives, cost untold Americans their families and their homes and their mortgage payments” and warned that American children will be turned away from college “because invaders have been brought in the country and put in those seats ahead of” them.

533 FemNaziBitch  Jul 23, 2014 9:13:34am

bbl

534 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:13:45am

re:
#529

So you got the new job?

535 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:14:25am

re: #532 Lidane

Nope. No hyperbole here:

William Gheen: Undocumented Immigrants More Dangerous ‘Than Anything Al Qaeda Could Blow Up’

They really want the Hispanic vote to be as strong for the Democrats as the African American vote don’t they? Or they’re just stupid bigots who can’t ehlp themselves with narivist shit.

536 Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2014 9:15:41am

re: #516 Killgore Trout

The reason why that pic is significant is because after the soldiers leave the owner of that house is going to return, take a pic of the tattered/destroy UN food bags and post it online claiming the Israelis are destroying UN food stockpiles. There’s even a decent chance a media stringer is going to come along and sell the pics to Reuters, AFP etc. That’s how this stuff works. The UN’s role in perpetuating/enabling to conflict is a separate issue. Have they returned the rockets found yesterday in the UN school to the terrorists who own them?

What kind of future does the school have if they don’t?

537 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:15:59am

re: #534 Bulworth

re:
#529

So you got the new job?

I started a job last week as an account manager for a CRM company. It’s not a bad job, and the people are nice, but the pay is shit.

I’m hoping that the recruiter who is pushing me for a marketing communications gig comes through. That job would pay me almost triple what this current job pays and I wouldn’t feel like I’m in a call center. :-p

538 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:16:30am

re:
#532

Gheen: Well, what the illegals that are coming — and especially the ones that are coming from China

OK, well, I didn’t know anything about these Chinese coming over the border to destroy us. /////

539 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 9:16:41am

re: #532 Lidane

Nope. No hyperbole here:

William Gheen: Undocumented Immigrants More Dangerous ‘Than Anything Al Qaeda Could Blow Up’

So these folks are ebil, country-destroying menaces until they become citizens when suddenly they are natural conservatives with strong family values? Got it.

540 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:17:39am

You know what, fuck conservatism. If conservatism is going to be about racism, sexism, homophobia, and classism. Fuck it. And fuck the Republican party too.

541 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:17:53am

re: #530 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWUT

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I reserve judgment until Bernard Lewis agrees with everything David Horowitz says. /

542 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:18:23am

re:
#537

Cool, hope the higher paying job comes through…

543 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 9:21:17am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

I’m in the process of reading the The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and, at the risk of Godwinning, though this paragraph was interesting:

Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is an excellent book, and yes….the Nazis were very much a lower-middle class phenomenon; as Shirer pointed out, white-collars workers terrified of sliding into the ranks of the working class, whom they considered themselves to be superior to.

544 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:21:43am

Oh hey. Lord Monckton is flapping his pie hole again:

WorldNetDaily columnist Lord Christopher Monckton knows that Americans would rise up and demand President Obama’s imprisonment if only they knew the truth about “the genuineness of the ‘birth certificate.’” They would know this, he argues, if only the “Marxstream news media” (that’s a new one) would stop suppressing the findings of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s conspiracy-theory-driven “cold case posse.”

Monckton writes today in WND that the findings of Arpaio’s “investigation” into Obama’s birth certificate received “virtually no major news coverage,” thus letting Obama off the hook and suppressing the great work of “tea party citizens.”

He goes on to link media coverage of the birther conspiracy theory to reports about climate change: “[T]he voters are not given a fair selection of the facts on the climate, on the ‘birth certificate’ or on many other subjects where the ‘liberal’ majority in the news media simply refuses to keep them briefed. Herein lies a grave danger to democracy.”

It seems voters will miss out on Arpaio’s damning investigation, “unless they had been fortunate enough to read WND.”

545 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:22:34am

re: #523 FemNaziBitch

see my #487

I think the chemicals from chemtrails have eaten away at Starnes’ brain cells.

546 Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2014 9:23:55am
547 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:24:11am

Have noticed across my Twitter feed recently the new found evidence TCOT has regressed to the Ronald Reagan was the greatest president ever and WHY IS OBUMA ALWAYS ON VACATIONS????!?!1 stage of the political cycle. I guess the BENGHAZIIRS scandals aren’t going so well.

548 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:24:40am

re: #517 Timothy Watson

I’m in the process of reading the The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and, at the risk of Godwinning, thought this paragraph was interesting:

I can’t recommend enough Ian Kershaw’s two volumes on Hitler. In a word, monumental.

549 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:25:33am

re:
#544

Hmmm, maybe if conservatives had their very own cable television news station they could highlight this. ///

550 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:26:41am

re: #532 Lidane

Nope. No hyperbole here:

William Gheen: Undocumented Immigrants More Dangerous ‘Than Anything Al Qaeda Could Blow Up’

Hmmm.

Aren’t there Christian colleges popping up all over that they could pay to accept their kids (obviously the kids don’t have the chops to get in on their own)

551 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:26:44am

re: #528 FemNaziBitch

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Yes, line-drawing stock illustration lady, I have wanted to slap YOU for this stupid meme:

552 Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2014 9:26:51am

re: #492 FemNaziBitch

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They are barbarians. They don’t understand civilization and wouldn’t like it if they did.

553 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:27:40am

re: #544 Lidane

Oh hey. Lord Monckton is flapping his pie hole again:

I see Lord Monckton has been eating bath salts again.

554 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 9:28:07am

re:
#550

Hurr hurr Obamas waging war against Christians and Christian colleges because evidence!!!1

555 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:28:28am

No one is talking about this! And then they brag about how they’re really popular.

556 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:28:41am

re: #547 Bulworth

Have noticed across my Twitter feed recently the new found evidence TCOT has regressed to the Ronald Reagan was the greatest president ever and WHY IS OBUMA ALWAYS ON VACATIONS????!?!1 stage of the political cycle. I guess the BENGHAZIIRS scandals aren’t going so well.

I’m amazed they’re not in full on ZOMG INVADING BROWN HORDE mode over the unaccompanied kids at the border.

557 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 9:29:04am

FedEx just delivered my new pressure canner.
Kittehs have already claimed the shipping box.

558 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:29:15am

re: #544 Lidane

Oh hey. Lord Monckton is flapping his pie hole again:

Please Monckton, continue.

559 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 9:31:06am

re: #546 Stanley Sea

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560 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:31:59am

re: #557 Backwoods_Sleuth

FedEx just delivered my new pressure canner.
Kittehs have already claimed the shipping box.

Youtube Video

561 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:32:25am

Ron Paul openly shilling for Putin:

562 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:33:03am

Today’s forced dissolution of the Communist faction in the Rada will probably cause outcry among western lefties. The immediate reason was Simonenko’s claim to a Russian propaganda channel that the National Guard engages in trade of organs of wounded soldiers. The claim was based on a Russian fake.

In 2009 Simonenko claimed, that Jews brought Hitler to power.

While there may be some decent communists around the world, particularly the Russian and the Ukrainian Communist parties are degenerate, shameless Stalinist entities.

563 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:33:12am
564 Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2014 9:33:49am

re: #502 Lidane

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE THE ONES WHO CAN PAY FOR THEM! Privatize everything! Eleventy!

That will last right up until they can’t afford something. If they get the chance to have it happen, which is doubtful.

565 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 9:34:13am

re: #544 Lidane

So how did the government miss out on suppressing WND?

566 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:35:00am

re: #565 calochortus

So how did the government miss out on suppressing WND?

You’re using logic again. Stop ruining the narrative.

/////

567 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 9:35:40am

re: #566 Lidane

You’re using logic again. Stop ruining the narrative.

/////

Sorry. I keep forgetting.

568 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:36:24am

re: #562 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Clarification/correction - the plan is to disband it on Thursday.

569 wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2014 9:37:41am

re: #568 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Clarification/correction - the plan is to disband it on Thursday.

On Wednesday, there was a fistfight in Ukraine’s parliament between members of the Communist Party and MPs of the nationalist party Svoboda (Freedom). Turchynov had to announce a 15-minute break. “We’ll have to put up with this (Communist) faction just for a day,” the parliament speaker said.

570 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 9:38:01am

re: #562 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Today’s forced dissolution of the Communist fraction in the Rada will probably cause outcry among western lefties. The immediate reason was Simonenko’s claim to a Russian propaganda channel that the National Guard engages in trade of organs of wounded soldiers. The claim was based on a Russian fake.

In 2009 Simonenko claimed, that Jews brought Hitler to power.

While there may be some decent communists around the world, particularly the Russian and the Ukrainian Communist parties are degenerate, shameless Stalinist entities.

He offers proof that the Ukrainian Government is a fascist, nationalist coup regime, and therefore anything that True Patriots do against them is justified.

Sound familiar?

571 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 9:39:10am

Seeing on Twitter that FAA has extended their TLV flight ban for another 24 hours.

Israel has already moved to open an alternative international airport in Southern Israel, but some airlines are likely to balk at the move.

The FAA currently has flight restrictions on quite a few war zones and unstable regions due to threats to flying aircraft, airports, and other transportation facilities.

572 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 9:39:15am

re: #561 Pie-onist Overlord

Ron Paul openly shilling for Putin:

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What are you hinting at Paul?

They will not report that the Ukrainian government has much to gain by pinning the attack on Russia, and that the Ukrainian prime minister has already expressed his pleasure that Russia is being blamed for the attack.

They will not report that the missile that apparently shot down the plane was from a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system that requires a good deal of training that the separatists do not have.

They will not report that the separatists in eastern Ukraine have inflicted considerable losses on the Ukrainian government in the week before the plane was downed.

Come out and say it.

573 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:40:32am

re: #570 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I’m of two minds about the dissolution, esp. in light of the fact that no one will do that to the ultranationalist factions. But I certainly have no pity toward Stalinist degenerates.

574 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:41:38am
575 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 9:41:39am

Dear Abby,

Due to this morning’s steaming truckload of DERP, I’m inclined to throw my desk out the window. But if I do so, I won’t have a handy surface to bang my head against.

What should I do?

Signed,
Torn

576 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 9:42:01am

Some people are trying to discern something from the body language and why they aren’t smiling.

Why would they be smiling. Netenyahu’s in the middle of fighting a war against Hamas. Kerry is trying to figure out some kind of ceasefire so that Israel can reopen the airport and stop the casualties on both sides. Hamas wont cooperate with either.

577 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:42:19am

With all the crap people do to each other it’s natural to get extremely angry and want to punish them. Nice thing about us is our ability to go beyond that anger and think things through - if we are motivated to do it.

578 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:43:13am

re: #574 Pie-onist Overlord

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I can’t agree with an attack on a hospital.

579 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 9:43:14am

re: #571 lawhawk

But Mike Bloomberg found a way to get there:

580 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:43:51am

re: #558 b_sharp

Please Monckton, continue.

Sorry WND, but this is the US of A and we don’t do the Lord thing.

581 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:43:52am

IDF could post raw video of Hamas fighters charging at them wearing bulletproof vests built of toddlers but it wouldn’t help.

582 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 9:44:00am

re: #576 lawhawk

Some people are trying to discern something from the body language and why they aren’t smiling.

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Why would they be smiling. Netenyahu’s in the middle of fighting a war against Hamas. Kerry is trying to figure out some kind of ceasefire so that Israel can reopen the airport and stop the casualties on both sides. Hamas wont cooperate with either.

Really why would they be smiling.

583 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:44:22am

re: #579 Backwoods_Sleuth

But Mike Bloomberg found a way to get there:

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OK Mike, how many stranded tourists will you take home with you?

584 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 9:44:35am

re: #452 FemNaziBitch

Video of Fox flipping their shit over this here:

Fox Hosts Gin Up Outrage Over ‘Stranded Illegals’ Calling 911 In Spanish (VIDEO)

Please proceed. I’m sure that a Fox News drone whining about people speaking Spanish won’t affect anything at all.

585 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:45:14am

re: #579 Backwoods_Sleuth

But Mike Bloomberg found a way to get there:

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And on El Al yet. I would’ve expected him to take his personal jet.

586 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 9:45:26am

Bloomberg’s here, everyone hide their Big Gulps.

587 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:46:20am

OK, has the US released any promised evidence or not?

588 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:47:21am
589 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:47:27am

re: #580 De Kolta Chair

Sorry WND, but this is the USA and we don’t do lords.

Not even Lordes?
Lorde

590 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:48:13am

re: #589 b_sharp

Not even Lordes?
Lorde

That’s exactly why I rewrote my comment, ya whippersnapper ya!

591 Mike Lamb  Jul 23, 2014 9:48:26am

re: #532 Lidane

Nope. No hyperbole here:

William Gheen: Undocumented Immigrants More Dangerous ‘Than Anything Al Qaeda Could Blow Up’

Yup…they are displacing Americans occupying all the high paying produce harvesting positions…

592 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:50:28am

re: #591 Mike Lamb

Yup…they are displacing Americans occupying all the high paying produce harvesting positions…

I remember someone over at FreeRepublic about 10 years ago, saying that all the outsourced tech workers should stop whining and get jobs as farm labor.

593 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:50:30am

re: #590 De Kolta Chair

That’s exactly why I rewrote my comment, ya whippersnapper ya!

You were too late.

Muhahaha..

594 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 9:52:09am

From what I’ve been reading, the plane tried to land during bad weather due to Typhoon Tail.

595 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 9:52:18am

Must go run errands. Which will be more exciting, Costco or Home Depot?

596 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 9:53:11am

re: #595 calochortus

Must go run errands. Which will be more exciting, Costco or Home Depot?

Try to avoid being attacked by Dinesh’s book if you go to Costco…

597 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 9:53:14am

re: #595 calochortus

Must go run errands. Which will be more exciting, Costco or Home Depot?

You tell us.

598 piratedan  Jul 23, 2014 9:53:29am

re: #595 calochortus

Costco, where you can pick up D’Souza’s book, shake your head ruefully, chortle quietly to yourself as you place it back on the pile…..

599 b.d.  Jul 23, 2014 9:53:33am

re: #595 calochortus

Must go run errands. Which will be more exciting, Costco or Home Depot?

Costco. Go see if they have D’Souza’s book laying out.

:P

600 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:54:24am

re: #587 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

OK, has the US released any promised evidence or not?

I’m looking e.g. at online.wsj.com but don’t see any photos, only claims, claims and more claims. Nobody is interested in claims.

601 De Kolta Chair  Jul 23, 2014 9:54:41am

re: #593 b_sharp

You were too late.

Muhahaha..

Ya got me! Well, we’re off to visit friends in the Catskills for a week. Have a great time y’all!

602 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 9:55:02am

re: #589 b_sharp

Not even Lordes?
Lorde

Or Lordi?

We’ll never be Royals…

603 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 9:55:03am

re: #595 calochortus

Must go run errands. Which will be more exciting, Costco or Home Depot?

MOAR GUNZ ar Home Depot!

604 CuriousLurker  Jul 23, 2014 9:55:35am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel

{{{Shiplord Kirel}}}

605 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 9:55:56am

re: #597 b_sharp

You tell us.

Well, probably Home Depot, though I prefer independent hardware stores to big box. In this case HD will be on my route so I’ll bite the bullet and go there. Costco is just grocery-type stuff today.

606 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 9:56:00am

Great idea for rebranding!!11!!

607 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 9:57:33am

re: #602 makeitstop

Or Lordi?

We’ll never be Royals…

Back when that band won its 15 minutes of fame in the 2006 Eurovision Song Contest, a buddy of mine was working on a project in Finland, which he proposed to name Laser-Organic Digital Interface, or LORDI for short…

608 calochortus  Jul 23, 2014 9:57:40am

re: #598 piratedan

Costco, where you can pick up D’Souza’s book, shake your head ruefully, chortle quietly to yourself as you place it back on the pile…..

If they haven’t pulled it again-there was a lot of conspiratorial derp someplace or other yesterday about Costco pulling it and forbidding their employees to mention it-except of course, one of them spilled the beans to a random customer and…oh never mind.

BBL

609 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 9:58:22am

re: #600 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Then I look at theguardian.com and see some photos. Except one can’t make out anything on the first one, the second is irrelevant and the third one is from the internet. It all looks really weak. If I didn’t know what I know, I would not take claims based on such evidence seriously.

610 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 10:02:02am

re: #607 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Back when that band won its 15 minutes of fame in the 2006 Eurovision Song Contest, a buddy of mine was working on a project in Finland, which he proposed to name Laser-Organic Digital Interface, or LORDI for short…

As you might know, I do a lot of work for Twisted Sister. When the band was recording their first album, they asked Jay Jay French to do a guitar solo on one of the tracks. He did it for what amounted to union scale.

Then they won Euro, the album took off, and Jay Jay realized he should have charged them a little more. :)

611 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:03:00am

re: #329 FemNaziBitch

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Does that really impress anyone?

It just makes him look phony to me.

612 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 10:05:17am

re: #609 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This would work for The Guardian, as well:

613 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:05:50am

re: #337 FemNaziBitch

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Australia is trying to close the gap so the US better get their denialist ducks in a row and shoot for 100% denial.

614 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 10:06:25am

re:
#592

Ah, well, that would have been in the Bush Admin when outsourcing was no problem.

Now it’s Obama’s fault.

615 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:08:00am
616 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 10:08:08am

re: #612 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not about the Guardian. It’s about the US intelligence press conference, which was a failure, as far as I’m concerned.

617 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:09:34am

TEH MOAST PATRIOTIC PATRIOTS WHO EVER PATRIOTED!!! EXCEPT NO TAX PAYS FOR TEH PATRIOTS!!!!!!

618 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:10:10am

HURR HURR ONLY TEH UNPATRIOTIC COMMUNISTS PAYS TEH TAX MONEYS!!!!!!!

619 Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2014 10:11:02am

Youtube Video

620 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 10:13:22am

Start packing yer things, folks:

Tea Party News Site Is Pretty Sure You Will Be Thrown Into A FEMA Camp

621 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 10:17:02am

re: #620 Lidane

Start packing yer things, folks:

Tea Party News Site Is Pretty Sure You Will Be Thrown Into A FEMA Camp

I hope there will be crafts.
I love camp crafts.

622 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:17:18am
623 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 10:17:22am
624 Killgore Trout  Jul 23, 2014 10:17:24am

re: #574 Pie-onist Overlord

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It’s so frustrating that things like this aren’t getting more attention.

625 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 10:18:14am

re: #623 Kragar

How do those two things even connect? WTF.

626 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:19:03am

re: #621 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope there will be crafts.
I love camp crafts.

I’m still trying to light a fire with a string and two sticks.

627 Lidane  Jul 23, 2014 10:19:25am

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

“Just like we teach them reading and writing, necessary skills. We would teach shooting and firearm competency,” he explained. “It wouldn’t matter if a child’s parents weren’t good at it. We’d find them a mentor. It wouldn’t matter if they didn’t want to learn. We would make it necessary to advance to the next grade.”

Johnson also suggested that the government would have to “subsidize” the purchase of guns like it did with food, education, and health care.

“I mean, perhaps we would have government ranges where you could shoot for free or a yearly allotment of free ammunition,” he said. “Gun policy, driven by our need for guns would protect equal access to guns, just like we protect equal access to voting, and due process, and free speech.”

Johnson concluded by lamenting that even Second Amendment advocates “can’t fathom a world where we would treat guns as a need.”

628 Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2014 10:19:43am

re: #626 b_sharp

I’m still trying to light a fire with a string and two sticks.

You’ll need to take lessons from Rae Dawn Chong.

629 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:19:52am

re: #623 Kragar

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WTF?

630 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:20:41am
631 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:20:52am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

Don’t the gun nuts want less gov’t interference?

632 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:21:13am

re: #628 Dr Lizardo

You’ll need to take lessons from Rae Dawn Chong.

I have no problem with that.

633 lawhawk  Jul 23, 2014 10:21:47am

re: #625 Lidane

How do those two things even connect? WTF.

Hamas is a proxy for Iran. Therefore, going on the offensive against Hamas means you should go to war against Iran.

At least that’s the logic of Gohmert.

634 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 23, 2014 10:22:35am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

Home rifle range schooling!!!

635 Bulworth  Jul 23, 2014 10:23:21am

re:
#631

No it won’t require any government just the kids to shoot the other kids who don’t shoot well. /

636 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 23, 2014 10:24:41am

re: #627 Lidane

To be honest, given that guns are around and so many idiots don’t know how to handle one safely I think people should take a gun safety course. Now I don’t think it should be a requirement in order to graduate but it’s not a completely bad idea. I had to take one in NY (hunter safety course which included gun safety) in order to get my hunting license and was raised in a family that owned fire arms. This was before the “ZOMG lock your guns up and hide them from your kids” craze and my father showed me how to shoot and safely handle guns and rifles.

I honestly think the “Hide the guns” mentality has done more harm than good because kids find the gun eventually and that’s when accidents happen. And don’t even get me started on adults and their irresponsible handling of firearms.

637 Bubblehead II  Jul 23, 2014 10:26:03am

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

638 Mike Lamb  Jul 23, 2014 10:26:41am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

This is SPARTA!!!

639 darthstar  Jul 23, 2014 10:26:57am

re: #410 b_sharp

What word would you substitute for crash?

Disaster? Crime? Horror? Attack?

I would have just stopped after the words “flight MH-17.”

640 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:27:57am

re: #637 Bubblehead II

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

Unclean vermin is what grows in your ass crack if you crap your pants for weeks at a time.

641 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 10:28:55am

re: #637 Bubblehead II

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

You know Ted, if you’re upset about you not getting gigs. Maybe you should stop sounding like a Nazi and stop calling people vermin. It makes you sound like an even bigger asshole than you already are.

642 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 10:29:06am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

Would the NRA support legislation saying if you can’t pass a firearms safety class, you are legally prohibited from owning or using a firearm?

Until then, they can fuck right off.

643 makeitstop  Jul 23, 2014 10:29:17am

re: #637 Bubblehead II

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

I guess he’d consider them ‘clean vermin’ if they had paid him to do his show.
/

644 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 10:30:00am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

Yes, because being able to shoot is so pertinent to academic success. Seriously NRA just fuck off and find a better hobby than guns. Your obsession with these things isn’t healthy.

645 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 10:30:12am

re: #637 Bubblehead II

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

Gee, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want to host such a charming fellow.

646 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 23, 2014 10:31:03am

re: #410 b_sharp

What word would you substitute for crash?

Disaster? Crime? Horror? Attack?

Is it still a crash when a plane falls apart in midair?

647 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 10:31:15am

re: #645 Kragar

Gee, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want to host such a charming fellow.

Oh come on, he’s a nice guy………if you’re not unclean vermin.

648 Bubblehead II  Jul 23, 2014 10:31:22am

re: #641 HappyWarrior

You know Ted, if you’re upset about you not getting gigs. Maybe you should stop sounding like a Nazi and stop calling people vermin. It makes you sound like an even bigger asshole than you already are.

re: #643 makeitstop

I guess he’d consider them ‘clean vermin’ if they had paid him to do his show.
/

That’s the thing. Is he calling the Tribe unclean vermin or the SPLC vermin? Maybe both.

649 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 23, 2014 10:31:48am

re: #646 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Is it still a crash when a plane falls apart in midair?

Yes, unless the pieces don’t fall to the ground.

650 Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2014 10:32:21am

re: #637 Bubblehead II

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

His white supremacy language is freeeeeeee!

651 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 10:32:59am

re: #648 Bubblehead II

That’s the thing. Is he calling the Tribe unclean vermin or the SPLC vermin? Maybe both.

Either way, he comes off like a Nazi. Really I’ve never seen anyone outside the Nazi leadership so obsessed with using dehumanizing rhetoric.

652 Kragar  Jul 23, 2014 10:33:16am

Music History has been made

653 HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2014 10:33:34am

re: #652 Kragar

Music History has been made

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Way to go Weird Al!

654 Mike Lamb  Jul 23, 2014 10:33:50am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

Sneak preview of school uniforms under NRA’s new guns for grades policy:

655 Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2014 10:36:07am

re: #572 b.d.

What are you hinting at Paul?

[snip]

They will not report that the missile that apparently shot down the plane was from a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system that requires a good deal of training that the separatists do not have.

Come out and say it.

Yet the separatists gleefully report on how they are bringing down Ukrainian fighter jets. So they are able to bring down a fighter jet with surface-to-air missiles yet don’t have the know how to bring down commercial jets with surface-to-air missiles. Gotcha.

656 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 23, 2014 10:36:36am

re: #641 HappyWarrior

You know Ted…It makes you sound like an even bigger asshole than you already are.

657 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:39:12am

re: #646 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Is it still a crash when a plane falls apart in midair?

No, I don’t think so.

658 b_sharp  Jul 23, 2014 10:40:03am

re: #648 Bubblehead II

That’s the thing. Is he calling the Tribe unclean vermin or the SPLC vermin? Maybe both.

I think he’s calling the SPLC and envious lefties vermin.

659 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2014 10:57:07am

re: #637 Bubblehead II

The Nuge has some butthurt.

Ted Nugent lashes out at ‘unclean vermin’ after Idaho Native American tribe cancels his concert

way to make new friends, Ted…

660 Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2014 11:12:24am

re: #627 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

NRA’s ‘Everyone Gets A Gun’ plan: Kids must pass shooting tests to advance in school

Why don’t we teach them about sex? i bet more people have sex than own a gun.

661 jamjam  Jul 23, 2014 11:16:04am

re: #516 Killgore Trout

The reason why that pic is significant is because after the soldiers leave the owner of that house is going to return, take a pic of the tattered/destroy UN food bags and post it online claiming the Israelis are destroying UN food stockpiles. There’s even a decent chance a media stringer is going to come along and sell the pics to Reuters, AFP etc. That’s how this stuff works. The UN’s role in perpetuating/enabling to conflict is a separate issue. Have they returned the rockets found yesterday in the UN school to the terrorists who own them?

How do you know that, though ? That seems a remarkable statement - is there evidence of this going on ?

662 CuriousLurker  Jul 23, 2014 12:02:02pm

re: #661 jamjam

How do you know that, though ? That seems a remarkable statement - is there evidence of this going on ?

Some people believe that every single video or photo taken by a Palestinian showing Palestinian suffering of any kind is suspect/staged, regardless of whether it’s coming from a photojournalist or a civilian. If the person recording the image/video was Palestinian, it’ll be assumed they’re lying; if it was a non-Palestinian working for a news agency, then it’ll be assumed they were either sympathetic—and therefore in cahoots with, or duped by—duplicitous Palestinians.

The logic seems to be that since there have been occasions where something has been staged, cropped, or Photoshopped in the past, ergo everything is automatically assumed to be faked.

For example +972 Magazine posted this video clip early this morning. It shows no wounded or “telegenically dead Palestinians”, but it does show 4 minutes of terrified Palestinian adults & children trying to escape to escape their eastern Gaza City neighborhood during intense bombardment earlier this week. It was taken by a Palestinian media outlet, so it’s sure to be dismissed by some.

663 Ryan King  Jul 23, 2014 9:06:35pm

re: #401 NJDhockeyfan

You’re a douche.


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