Another Native American Casino Cancels Ted Nugent After Community Complaints

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This is not shaping up as a good month for right wing racist Ted Nugent: Tacoma Casino Cancels Nugent Shows, Citing Racism.

TACOMA, Wash. — Emerald Queen Casino will cancel two Ted Nugent concerts that were scheduled August 2 and 3 over allegations of racist remarks by the singer.

Puyallup Tribe officials said the decision came after learning that Nugent has said racist remarks.

“The first amendment gives people the right free speech, but I think racism is intolerable and not acceptable here,” said Puyallup Tribal Council Vice President Lawrence W. LaPointe. “We’ve been getting lots of complaints from the community and other organizations.”

“I don’t want to take away his right to say what he wants to say, but we don’t need it here.”

In case you’re tempted to doubt Nugent’s long history of racism, please note that he was a frequent guest on the Tennessee white supremacist radio show “Political Cesspool.”

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257 comments
1 darthstar  Jul 24, 2014 8:17:51pm

The upside is they don’t have to deal with his fans, either.

2 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:19:14pm

re: #1 darthstar

The upside is they don’t have to deal with his fans, either.

or hear his music.

3 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 8:21:45pm

The Nuge is becoming irrelevant. That’s a good thing. I hear he can’t sell tickets on this summer tour for the life of him, on top of gigs being cancelled because he’s RWNJ.

4 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 24, 2014 8:22:43pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

or hear his music.

Music? “Wang-bang-whatever-papapang” is hardly music, more like cacophony.

5 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:24:36pm

By the way, a while back I saved the entire guest list from the white supremacist Political Cesspool website as a Safari web archive, and I’ve now extracted it into a web-useable set of files. They deleted all this stuff years ago, but I’m going to put it back online.

I think people are going to be shocked at some of the names on this guest list. You’ll recognize a lot of them.

6 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:25:30pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

By the way, a while back I saved the entire guest list from the white supremacist Political Cesspool website as a Safari web archive, and I’ve now extracted it into a web-useable set of files. They deleted all this stuff years ago, but I’m going to put it back online.

I think people are going to be shocked at some of the names on this guest list. You’ll recognize a lot of them.

Can’t wait to see.

7 plansbandc  Jul 24, 2014 8:33:16pm

Hope ole Teddy melts down in a spectacular way.

8 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 8:34:40pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

By the way, a while back I saved the entire guest list from the white supremacist Political Cesspool website as a Safari web archive, and I’ve now extracted it into a web-useable set of files. They deleted all this stuff years ago, but I’m going to put it back online.

I think people are going to be shocked at some of the names on this guest list. You’ll recognize a lot of them.

The internet never forgets.

9 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 24, 2014 8:35:52pm

Time wounds all heels.

10 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:36:11pm
11 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 24, 2014 8:37:10pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

He wishes.

12 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 8:38:25pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Delusions of grandeur.

13 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:38:37pm
14 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:38:46pm

He really is a pathetic figure when you thnk about it. Here’s a guy in his 60’s who has all the maturity of an immature teenage boy.

15 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:39:36pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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is that why you called those who you didn’t like unclean vermin, Ted?

16 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:39:41pm
17 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 8:41:06pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Will this trigger @RobotJMcCarthy?

*edit* Nope. That account has been suspended.

18 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:41:25pm
19 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:42:19pm

I think honest to God the man is mentally disturbed.

20 austin_blue  Jul 24, 2014 8:44:03pm

He is, at fundamental level, a putz. A pitiful human being.

Hell of a guitar slinger, though.

But why is he breathing perfectly good oxygen that the rest of us need?

Meh. He is beneath my contempt.

21 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 8:44:44pm

Judging from Mr. Nugent’s Twitter timeline he seems like a humble fellow.

22 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:45:19pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Judging from Mr. Nugent’s Twitter timeline he seems like a humble fellow.

Knows how to respect the opinions of those who disagree with him too. Nothing but class and respect./

23 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:49:20pm
24 Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2014 8:50:57pm
25 HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2014 8:51:03pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Awesome question. Too bad he’ll ignore it or call you a subhuman vermin for daring to question the great Nuge.

26 austin_blue  Jul 24, 2014 8:52:19pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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I’m expecting *crickets*.

As I am sure you are, also.

27 TedStriker  Jul 24, 2014 8:57:02pm

Charles, a slight correction is in order: Political Cesspool is broadcast out of a Memphis-area station, not from Nashville.

It’s bad enough that it’s coming out of TN at all, but as a Nashvillian, I’d like it to be clarified.

28 Ryan King  Jul 24, 2014 8:59:21pm

It’s been a bad week. But Nuge getting his just desserts is making it a little better.

29 BeachDem  Jul 24, 2014 9:06:03pm

And because it will never get old:

30 TedStriker  Jul 24, 2014 9:09:22pm

re: #29 BeachDem

And because it will never get old:

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Kid Rock’s a dick too; my cousin has a story about his ass raising hell in one of Nashville’s toniest strip clubs (at the time) more than a few years ago.

Doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy some of his music and his film appearances, but he’s still an asshole, just like Uncle Ted.

31 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 9:18:29pm

Here’s some dorks that’ll be remembered in the music world better and longer than Ted Nugent. (hah! the sexual innuendo in that sentence…)

Video

32 bratwurst  Jul 24, 2014 9:31:40pm

Will be interesting to see if there is any truth to this:

33 darthstar  Jul 24, 2014 9:38:50pm

re: #29 BeachDem

And because it will never get old:

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Just so you know,
So it’s set in stone,
Kid Rock don’t come where I come from…

It’s true, he’s a Yank,
He ain’t no son of Hank
and if you thought so goddamn you’re fuckin’ dumb.
—Hank 3 (Great song, by the way)

34 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2014 9:50:38pm

Ted who?

35 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 24, 2014 9:53:26pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

Delusions of grandeur adequacy.

36 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2014 9:54:05pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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So says the asshole from Detroit.

37 BeachDem  Jul 24, 2014 9:57:20pm

And when I think of favorite musical artists from Detroit, Bob Seger and Mitch Ryder are head, shoulders, torsos, and legs above the Nuge and Kid Rock. I mean, come on—it’s not even a close contest.

Youtube Video

38 sagehen  Jul 24, 2014 10:01:16pm

Does the 1960’s Motown roster count as Detroit?

39 goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2014 10:10:24pm

re: #32 bratwurst

Will be interesting to see if there is any truth to this:

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Conditional confirmation:

Hamas has agreed, in principle to the cease fire proposal of Secretary of State John Kerry of the United States, according to a Riday-morning report by the London-based Arab newspaper Al-Hayat.

The proposal includes American guarantees for the opening of crossings into Gaza. Hamas is waiting for guarantees regarding other demands, such as the release of convicted and recently-arrested prisoners.

40 BeachDem  Jul 24, 2014 10:19:08pm

re: #38 sagehen

Does the 1960’s Motown roster count as Detroit?

I would say definitely, yes.

Image: 250px-Hitsville_USA.jpg

The Hitsville U.S.A. Motown building at 2648 West Grand Boulevard in Detroit served as Motown’s headquarters from 1959 until 1968, and became the Motown Historical Museum in 1985

41 sagehen  Jul 24, 2014 10:27:47pm

In which case… all due respect to Seger and Ryder, they’re 2nd tier for their locale.

42 BeachDem  Jul 24, 2014 10:46:30pm

re: #41 sagehen

In which case… all due respect to Seger and Ryder, they’re 2nd tier for their locale.

OK, you got me. I was thinking of solo Detroit artists, but if you put the Motown artists as first tier; Seger second tier; Ryder, third; (and I didn’t realize Glen Frey was a Detroit guy as well), then I’d still put the Nuge and Kid Rock at about Tier 15 (because I’m guessing there are at least 10-12 others who wouldn’t make me puke.)

Seger still lives there, too. Per wiki:

Seger lives mainly at his home in Orchard Lake Village, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit. He frequents many local events including West Bloomfield High School football games to watch his son, who is in the nationally ranked marching band.

43 Egregious Philbin  Jul 24, 2014 10:50:05pm

I think the Nuge will find his support to be a mile wide, and an inch deep.

But, the power of hillbilly DERP is strong.
Hope this guy becomes more of a has-been.

Right quick

44 BeachDem  Jul 24, 2014 10:51:36pm

re: #43 Egregious Philbin

I think the Nuge will find his support to be a mile wide, and an inch deep.

But, the power of hillbilly DERP is strong.
Hope this guy becomes more of a has-been.

Right quick

I prefer to think of him as a never was.

45 teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2014 11:00:40pm

Ted Nugent and his music couldn’t even come close to selling 9,450 tickets - which is what’s required for a SOLD OUT gig - at the venerated Red Rocks.

He’s playing a concert in Denver (well, not exactly) at the end of the month, on Broadway, several miles south of downtown in a theater called the Gothic in Englewood, CO, 1,100 capacity.

But my favorite touring band played to a SOLD OUT crowd at Red Rocks on 5 July.

Youtube Video

Take note of the DRONE footage.

46 sagehen  Jul 24, 2014 11:34:17pm

re: #42 BeachDem

OK, you got me. I was thinking of solo Detroit artists, but if you put the Motown artists as first tier; Seger second tier; Ryder, third; (and I didn’t realize Glen Frey was a Detroit guy as well), then I’d still put the Nuge and Kid Rock at about Tier 15 (because I’m guessing there are at least 10-12 others who wouldn’t make me puke.)

Seger still lives there, too. Per wiki:

Seger lives mainly at his home in Orchard Lake Village, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit. He frequents many local events including West Bloomfield High School football games to watch his son, who is in the nationally ranked marching band.

A nationally ranked High School marching band? Already we’ve found an act we’d probably like better than Nugent.

Do we call Madonna a Detroit artist because she grew up there, or NYC because that’s where she made her career?

47 freetoken  Jul 25, 2014 12:28:41am

Tier 0:

MP3 Audio

48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 12:47:12am

I used to have a bit of grudging respect for TN as an idiosyncratic but principled individualist, living on his ranch and eating only raw meat that he had killed with his bare hands. But that was before he went totally off the rails and started asking Obama to suck on his assault rifle.

49 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 25, 2014 1:51:53am

Hi folks,
I’m back in Lubbock to get everything arranged for my mom’s funeral. My daughters will get here tomorrow. My brother Judas the deacon/traitor will be here as well, but his wife Jezebel will not. My mom specifically said in writing that she was not to attend. Some other scumbag relatives were also excluded by name. If they show anyway, unlikely since they are as cowardly as they are immoral, they will be arrested for trespassing and disrupting a funeral. In a classic Baptist hypocrite DARVO ploy, some of them are reportedly hurt over this. Well, to hell with them, they never showed the slightest regard for anyone else’s feelings and nobody is obligated to respect theirs, or what theirs are alleged to be. I really don’t think any of them give a rat’s ass about anything but being assholes and deluding themselves that they got away with it. Now, as old age approaches, they are paying the price and finally learning about cause and effect.

50 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 25, 2014 2:01:41am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

Good luck with the family. Sounds like your fam has worse issues than mine.

51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 2:04:13am

Condolences and best wishes for those who need and deserve them.

Last time my entire family was together (all six siblings) was at my mom’s funeral…that was the last time, too, the youngest sister has since died.

We are not particularly close but there is no animosity between any of us.

52 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 25, 2014 3:29:55am

Democratic Montana Rep John Walsh turns out to have plagiarized his master’s thesis.

Why do people who do shit like that go into politics, they’ve gotta know it’ll eventually come out.

53 Dr Lizardo  Jul 25, 2014 3:35:35am

Morning, Lizards. In the midst of all the madness of the world, I just had the chance to read a review of the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy - and it’s a positive review: four out of five stars.


Guardians of the Galaxy, review: ‘a pop-culture gem’

With this action-packed space saga, Marvel swaps gloomy superheroes for snappy, Saturday-cartoon fun. And it’s an absolute blast, says Robbie Collin

The fun of it - and Guardians of the Galaxy specialises in fun, served by the sugar-sprinkled ice-cream-scoopload - is in seeing this odd quintet bluster through space battles and alien brawls that would have defeated anyone smarter and better-equipped. Just as the team makes do with the junk they find around them, the film feels like a mound of gems culled from decades of pop-culture scavenging: essentially, the Guardians are two Han Solos, two Chewbaccas and a Princess Leia, pitched against Ming the Merciless and his cronies, in spacecraft from the video games Star Fox and Galaga.

The script, by the film’s director James Gunn and Nicole Perlman, shares the jokes democratically and tends towards the quotable: in particular, the use of “pelvic sorcery” as a euphemism for slow dancing is a line worthy of Joss Whedon, the most favoured filmmaker in Marvel’s court.

In fact, Guardians of the Galaxy’s cheerful, hectic aesthetic is closer to one of the crackpot fantasias of Guillermo del Toro than Marvel’s own increasingly house-styled output, which reassures you, even in the wake of the Ant-Man debacle, that the studio hasn’t entirely lost the will to experiment. Who could have guessed that, after six years of hawkish franchise-building, the new instalment in cinema’s mightiest serial would be such a delirious one-off?

telegraph.co.uk

As always with any film reviews, there might be a mild spoiler or two, though for me, nothing terribly important.

I’m genuinely looking forward to seeing this one when it opens here, which won’t be until mid-to-late August. I should add that overall, it seems to be getting good reviews on Metacritic and rave reviews thus far on the Rottentomatoes site.

54 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 3:42:22am

So the first paycheck at this new job deposited overnight. What. A. Joke. Are you kidding me? I am not happy. I mean, getting some money for work is always good, but this is bullshit. It’s barely anything.

A new job can’t come to me fast enough. Staying with this shit is unacceptable. I won’t be able to survive or pay bills if I stay with this company.

55 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 3:42:29am

re: #52 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Democratic Montana Rep John Walsh turns out to have plagiarized his master’s thesis.

Why do people who do shit like that go into politics, they’ve gotta know it’ll eventually come out.

Several major German politicians, including one who was being groomed as a successor to Angela Merkel, have seen their careers derailed over plagiarism charges.

56 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 25, 2014 3:51:44am

re: #54 Lidane

So the first paycheck at this new job deposited overnight. What. A. Joke. Are you kidding me? I am not happy. I mean, getting some money for work is always good, but this is bullshit. It’s barely anything.

A new job can’t come to me fast enough. Staying with this shit is unacceptable. I won’t be able to survive or pay bills if I stay with this company.

I hear you. My two week check is $75 shy of covering the rent now that child support is being withheld…

57 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 4:00:07am

re: #56 William Barnett-Lewis

I hear you. My two week check is $75 shy of covering the rent now that child support is being withheld…

Mine is less than half of what it should be. I started last Tuesday. The two days of training were supposed to be paid and I’ve worked on the main office floor since. They’ve barely paid anything at all.

This is a joke. It’s worse than if I’d stayed unemployed and begged my family for money to cover my rent. I barely have anything to offer my landlady when she comes by and even less to keep for myself to put food on the table for the next two weeks. I want to cry. I’m supposed to be getting ready for another day at work but I don’t know how I’m going to make it through today. I guess I can console myself with the fact that it’s Friday. Blah.

58 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 4:07:43am

It’s morning by me.

you?

59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 4:09:30am

lunchtime and I still got a whole day’s work ahead of me…

60 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 4:10:37am

re: #46 sagehen

A nationally ranked High School marching band? Already we’ve found an act we’d probably like better than Nugent.

Do we call Madonna a Detroit artist because she grew up there, or NYC because that’s where she made her career?

I thought Madonna was from Bay City/Lake Huron?

61 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 4:11:21am

Grand Funk Railroad from Flint, MI!!!

62 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:24:48am

re: #38 sagehen

Does the 1960’s Motown roster count as Detroit?

ABSOLUTELY!

63 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:25:08am

re: #60 FemNaziBitch

I thought Madonna was from Bay City/Lake Huron?

Rochester, Oakland County.

64 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 4:28:10am

re: #62 Pie-onist Overlord

ABSOLUTELY!

IMHO, Motown is the Detroit roster.

65 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:28:22am

re: #54 Lidane

So the first paycheck at this new job deposited overnight. What. A. Joke. Are you kidding me? I am not happy. I mean, getting some money for work is always good, but this is bullshit. It’s barely anything.

A new job can’t come to me fast enough. Staying with this shit is unacceptable. I won’t be able to survive or pay bills if I stay with this company.

My previous job paid about half of what I am earning now. I accepted it at the time, because I had been unemployed for three years and I just wanted to get back in the game.

The best time to look for a job is when you already have a job. Then you can ask all the questions to recruiters that the “job advice sites” tell you never to ask, like “How much is the pay? That’s not enough!”

66 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 4:29:56am
67 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:35:20am

So, yesterday afternoon I was driving home and I had CNN “The Lead” on the readio. They were interviewing Kelly Fucking Ayotte and she was dribbling some crap out of her mouth about sending weapons and military assistance to the Ukraine.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

68 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:35:36am

These people are just fucked up.

69 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 25, 2014 4:38:22am

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning by me.

you?

mid-60s F this morning. Construction noise across the street. (Digging on one site and cement pouring on the other.)

About to get off my duff and take a shower, fix a cup of tea, and then take a bike ride.*

* - Trying to extend my range for going and taking photos.

70 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 4:39:36am

re: #66 FemNaziBitch

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And that’s really what it is, they want the benefits of society without the cost of supporting it. They support their greediness by arguing that “someone else” will pick up the tab in their place.

71 Stephen T.  Jul 25, 2014 4:41:16am

re: #65 Pie-onist Overlord

Then you can ask all the questions to recruiters that the “job advice sites” tell you never to ask, like “How much is the pay? That’s not enough!”

There is a reason why Job Advice Sites tell you not to ask such a question. It’s because the answer is always: “I’m sorry you feel that way, I guess this job isn’t a good fit for you. Tell the next applicant to step in as you leave, thank you.”

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 25, 2014 4:44:02am

re: #67 Pie-onist Overlord

So, yesterday afternoon I was driving home and I had CNN “The Lead” on the readio. They were interviewing Kelly Fucking Ayotte and she was dribbling some crap out of her mouth about sending weapons and military assistance to the Ukraine.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

She was just setting the table for conservative outrage for when the Obama Administration refuses to militarily intervene in the Ukraine.

73 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 4:46:31am

re: #67 Pie-onist Overlord

So, yesterday afternoon I was driving home and I had CNN “The Lead” on the readio. They were interviewing Kelly Fucking Ayotte and she was dribbling some crap out of her mouth about sending weapons and military assistance to the Ukraine.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

Ayotte is Mini-McCain, totally invested in the warhawk belief that every major foreign policy issue can be addressed through armed confrontation.

Diplomatic breakdown? “Send troops.”

Civil war? “Send troops.”

Diplomat gave us the stink eye? “Send troops.”

About the only time they don’t want to send troops is when the President actually tries to send troops.

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 25, 2014 4:48:41am

re: #71 Stephen T.

There is a reason why Job Advice Sites tell you not to ask such a question. It’s because the answer is always: “I’m sorry you feel that way, I guess this job isn’t a good fit for you. Tell the next applicant to step in as you leave, thank you.”

Yep and you dodge a bullet by not wasting time there.

75 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 25, 2014 4:49:58am

re: #73 Targetpractice

A time-honored kneejerk reaction, as immortalized by Tom Lehrer

Liveleak Video

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:53:38am

re: #71 Stephen T.

There is a reason why Job Advice Sites tell you not to ask such a question. It’s because the answer is always: “I’m sorry you feel that way, I guess this job isn’t a good fit for you. Tell the next applicant to step in as you leave, thank you.”

It’s not a stupid question to ask if the recruiter is calling about a job that pays less or the same as your current job.

77 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 4:53:39am

re: #70 Targetpractice

And that’s really what it is, they want the benefits of society without the cost of supporting it. They support their greediness by arguing that “someone else” will pick up the tab in their place.

They want to choose who get’s their money.

I have a feeling it would be their “friend’s’ charity (wink wink) and they complain about government corruption and nepotism.

78 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:54:09am

Another thing I have noticed is there are a lot of telemarketers making spam calls pretending to be recruiters.

79 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 4:54:51am

re: #78 Pie-onist Overlord

Another thing I have noticed is there are a lot of telemarketers making spam calls pretending to be recruiters.

It seems to be season for direct spam marketeers.

80 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 4:57:11am

re: #79 FemNaziBitch

It seems to be season for direct spam marketeers.

Yeah they get your phone number from Monster and they figure they will get you to listen to their spiel if they pretend to be a recruiter.

The problem is these are all offshore telemarketers who can barely speak English, and they are always calling about imaginary jobs way outside of your area.

81 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 4:57:43am

re: #77 FemNaziBitch

They want to choose who get’s their money.

I have a feeling it would be their “friend’s’ charity (wink wink) and they complain about government corruption and nepotism.

I’ve said time and again that if you did away with the tax deduction tomorrow, charitable giving in this country would dry up overnight. And that would include folks like the Waltons who “give” to their own “charity.”

82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 4:59:45am

re: #75 wheat-dogghazi

A time-honored kneejerk reaction, as immortalized by Tom Lehrer

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and echoed by John McCain

83 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 5:00:45am

Conservative woman explains why she doesn’t use Birth Control AND NOBODY ELSE SHOULD EITHER!!!!!!!

I mean yeah, I have 9 kids too, but I DON’T TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.

That BTW includes my own kids.

84 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 25, 2014 5:01:20am

This article about Russian volunteers in Donbass has been scrapped, obviously it revealed too much. I’ll just leave a copy here.

webcache.googleusercontent.com

peeep.us

85 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 5:02:01am

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

Conservative woman explains why she doesn’t use Birth Control AND NOBODY ELSE SHOULD EITHER!!!!!!!

I mean yeah, I have 9 kids too, but I DON’T TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.

That BTW includes my own kids.

What’s the age spread? You didn’t have them all in 10 years, right?

86 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 5:02:31am

Today is Key Lime Pie Day.

87 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 5:02:51am

re: #85 sagehen

What’s the age spread? You didn’t have them all in 10 years, right?

15 years.

88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 25, 2014 5:03:20am

re: #84 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Funny, they forgot to delete the print version.

mk.ru

peeep.us

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2014 5:04:43am

hatchling on the Glenn Beck thread.

90 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 5:04:55am

Hemlock Grove Season 3: Netflix Show Not Renewed or Canceled Yet; Stars Discuss Potential Future Plot

aahhhhhhuuuuuugghhhhhhhhhhaawwwwwww!!!!!!!

I wanna know now!

91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:07:01am

There was a time when women were not expected to know how their reproductive system even worked, pregnancies were just seen as Gifts from God.

And when six or seven of her ten children died in infancy, that was also seen as God’s workings, too…

92 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 5:08:02am

re: #83 Pie-onist Overlord

Conservative woman explains why she doesn’t use Birth Control AND NOBODY ELSE SHOULD EITHER!!!!!!!

I mean yeah, I have 9 kids too, but I DON’T TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.

That BTW includes my own kids.

She is whacked. (IMHO)

93 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 5:09:26am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when women were not expected to know how their reproductive system even worked, pregnancies were just seen as Gifts from God.

And when six or seven of her ten children died in infancy, that was also seen as God’s workings, too…

I think that is a big part of the problem. People have no personal experience with the dangers of pregnancy and childbirth for both the woman and the child.

94 FemNaziBitch  Jul 25, 2014 5:09:34am

bbl

95 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 5:12:02am

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

15 years.

Any twins?

96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:13:45am

re: #93 FemNaziBitch

I think that is a big part of the problem. People have no personal experience with the dangers of pregnancy and childbirth for both the woman and the child.

These people are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very concept of planning parenthood in the first place.

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 5:20:34am

re: #95 sagehen

Any twins?

All singles.

I have twin grandkids, though.

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2014 5:21:24am

re: #97 Pie-onist Overlord

All singles.

I have twin grandkids, though.

And one of the twin grandkids is a Vulcan!
:D

100 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 5:24:35am

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

And one of the twin grandkids is a Vulcan!
:D

101 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:32:17am

re: #99 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

2008: a renowned Polish traveler who’s been all over the world dies in a traffic accident in Russia.

2012: a renowned Japanese traveler who’s been all over the world dies in a traffic accident in Russia.

2014: a renowned American traveler who’s been all over the world dies in a traffic accident in Russia.

1992, not a renowned world traveller, I nearly died in a traffic accident in Russia. I cannot imagine that the condition of the roads there has improved since then, back then the Moscow Ring Road was a frigging death race, few markings or warning signs.

I found myself suddenly in the oncoming lane, swerved just in time to avoid being totalled. Once had to swerve to miss an enormous truck battery that had fallen out and was leaking acid all over the road.

102 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 5:38:24am

If we didn’t have wide spread birth control like the wingnuts want, they’d be complaining about having to provide for all these people. Honestly, I look at this way. If you want to have a large family, that’s your choice but if you want to have only one or two or even no children, that’s also your choice.

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:39:56am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

If we didn’t have wide spread birth control like the wingnuts want, they’d be complaining about having to provide for all these people. Honestly, I look at this way. If you want to have a large family, that’s your choice but if you want to have only one or two or even no children, that’s also your choice.

They share the same idea, simply, though, if you do not want all those kids, then JUST DON’T HAVE SEX!!!

What could be simpler?

/

104 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 5:43:57am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They share the same idea, simply, though, if you do not want all those kids, then JUST DON’T HAVE SEX!!!

What could be simpler?

/

And if you get raped, tough shit.

105 Jayleia  Jul 25, 2014 5:45:00am

re: #12 teleskiguy

Delusions of adequacy.

106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:45:21am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

And if you get raped, tough shit.

That is God’s will, too, remember? Assuming it was a legitimate rape.

107 ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2014 5:47:08am

Morning all! Don’t mind me and my love of guitar players…but I want to go back to the topic.

If you want a really good guitarist from Detroit…skip Teddy and go with the dude from out of Ryder’s Detroit Wheels Mr. Jimmy McCarty. A true blues burner with a very long career.

From McCarty’s Wiki page, even Teddy weighs in:

In an August 2006 interview on VH1 Classic, Ted Nugent remarked “I’m the only guy in rock’n’roll that plays that hollow body jazz guitar and it’s because in 1960 I saw Jimmy McCarty creating those big fat full chords like I do on “Stranglehold”; I learned that from Jimmy McCarty. Remember the name Jimmy McCarty. He is as important as Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry and Les Paul…a god on guitar.” Guitar-maker Paul Reed Smith is among McCarty’s admirers.

Go to YouTube and check him out. Dude was lightin’ fast in Cactus and cleaner than Jimmy Page doing basically the same rockin’ blues licks. In my opinion. And he can still kick it pretty good these days.

Here is a taste of him in 2012 (70 years old) doing a version of Fleetwood Macs Mystery Train.

Youtube Video

108 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:48:03am

In any case, Ted and the Amboy Dukes gave us this gem back in the 60’s, which Ted insists is not a drug song.

Whatever, Ted…

Jouney to the Center of the Mind

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 5:49:14am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

If we didn’t have wide spread birth control like the wingnuts want, they’d be complaining about having to provide for all these people. Honestly, I look at this way. If you want to have a large family, that’s your choice but if you want to have only one or two or even no children, that’s also your choice.

Yes there is a tcot meme (can’t find it now, Twitter’s search tool is Teh Suck) that goes like HERE’S A TIP FOR U POORS: DON’T HAVE MORE KIDS THAN YOU CAN AFFORD!!!!! but at the same time HEY DON’T EXPECT ME 2 PAY FOR UR BIRTH CONTROLS!!!!!!

110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 5:53:32am

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

Yes there is a tcot meme (can’t find it now, Twitter’s search tool is Teh Suck) that goes like HERE’S A TIP FOR U POORS: DON’T HAVE MORE KIDS THAN YOU CAN AFFORD!!!!! but at the same time HEY DON’T EXPECT ME 2 PAY FOR UR BIRTH CONTROLS!!!!!!

The fact is that they consider ALL sex as sinful, it is just slightly less sinful and perverted if it is for procreative purposes only, done as quickly as possible in the dark and in the missionary position, and of course, only between a legally married man and his obedient wife.

As long as that is the underlying approach, nothing else will change.

111 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 5:54:13am

My surprise, etc. —

Sean Hannity Shouts Down Palestinian Guest (VIDEO)

Fox News host Sean Hannity on Thursday shouted down a Palestinian guest who would not say whether he viewed Hamas as a terrorist organization.

The exchange between Hannity and Yousef Munayyer, the executive director of The Jerusalem Fund and Palestine Center in Washington, was hostile from the outset as Hannity accused Munayyer of rationalizing Hamas rocket fire and blaming the victims of the Israel-Gaza conflict.

112 alpuz  Jul 25, 2014 5:55:30am

F*ck the nuge. He would give a bowhunting class/demo at the local Rod & Gun club here about once a year. *sigh*

On a more upbeat note, here’s an original Detroit band:

netflix.com

113 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 5:55:39am

Oh, and we might be headed towards another government shutdown.

Fun times.

114 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:00:13am

re: #111 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Sean Hannity Shouts Down Palestinian Guest (VIDEO)

I see Sean’s well versed in the Bill O’Reilly tactic of inviting people on his show just to bully them.

115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 6:01:23am

Hannity could shout down an airliner at 30,000 feet…

116 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 6:02:03am

So, the gun enthusiasts will use this as proof that we need more guns in circulation (and that’s the Drudge angle). Except that it actually can be used as the counter argument - that but for a mentally ill man’s access to firearms, the doctor would not have needed to use the gun in the first place as self defense:

“Without a doubt, I believe the doctor saved lives,” Yeadon Police Chief Donald Molineux said. “If he [the doctor] wasn’t armed … this guy could have went out in the hallway and just walked down the offices until he ran out of ammunition.”

The patient, Richard Plotts, 49, of Upper Darby, was brought to the center yesterday afternoon by his caseworker, Theresa Hunt, 53, Delaware County District Attorney Jack Whelan said.

MORE COVERAGE
1 dead, 2 wounded in hospital shooting
Plotts, Hunt and the psychiatrist, Dr. Lee Silverman, met about 2 p.m. in a small office in the psychiatric unit on the third floor of the center, across the street from Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital, Whelan said.

A worker in a nearby office heard them arguing, opened the door and saw Plotts pointing a gun at Silverman’s head, Whelan said. That staffer quickly and quietly shut the door and called police.

Moments later, shots rang out.

Two other staffers - a caseworker and a psychiatrist - forced their way into the office and wrestled Plotts to the floor in the hallway, initially unaware that he was still armed, Whelan said. They disarmed Plotts and secured his weapon.

Authorities don’t know for sure what went on inside the office - and only two people are still alive to tell the story. Hunt, the caseworker, died from a gunshot wound that entered the right side of her face and exited her left temple.

Silverman suffered a graze wound to the head. He was taken to the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, where he was treated and was expected to be released last night.

Plotts, shot twice in the torso and once in the arm, was listed in critical but stable condition at HUP. He has a history of suicide attempts and a criminal record, authorities said.

So, a man with a history of suicide attempts and a criminal record was still able to obtain a gun. It is not known at this point whether Potts obtained the gun legally or not, but Potts did have firearms violations in the past.

117 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 6:06:35am

re: #113 Lidane

Oh, and we might be headed towards another government shutdown.

Fun times.

Oh good, another round of listening to wingnuts whine that “Obama won’t negotiate!”, when in reality it’s Republicans who have known for months that the deadline was coming up and decided to play chicken with the White House rather than accept that they’re not going to get what they want.

118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 6:10:32am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Oh good, another round of listening to wingnuts whine that “Obama won’t negotiate!”, when in reality it’s Republicans who have known for months that the deadline was coming up and decided to play chicken with the White House rather than accept that they’re not going to get what they want.

I guess they figure that if they do it enough times, some of the blame will finally stick to Obama…

119 makeitstop  Jul 25, 2014 6:11:54am

re: #107 ObserverArt

Morning all! Don’t mind me and my love of guitar players…but I want to go back to the topic.

If you want a really good guitarist from Detroit…skip Teddy and go with the dude from out of Ryder’s Detroit Wheels Mr. Jimmy McCarty. A true blues burner with a very long career.

From McCarty’s Wiki page, even Teddy weighs in:

Go to YouTube and check him out. Dude was lightin’ fast in Cactus and cleaner than Jimmy Page doing basically the same rockin’ blues licks. In my opinion. And he can still kick it pretty good these days.

Here is a taste of him in 2012 (70 years old) doing a version of Fleetwood Macs Mystery Train.

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McCarty was years ahead of his time in the Detroit Wheels. His solos on that string of hit singles were the prototype for hard rock guitar.

I saw about 15 minutes of him with Cactus at BB King’s in NYC last year - my band was playing in the small room while Cactus played the big room. He can still kick it like few others.

120 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 6:12:55am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Oh good, another round of listening to wingnuts whine that “Obama won’t negotiate!”, when in reality it’s Republicans who have known for months that the deadline was coming up and decided to play chicken with the White House rather than accept that they’re not going to get what they want.

It takes a special level of stupid to float the possibility of another government shutdown due to GOP obstruction right before the midterm elections.

Please proceed, Republicans.

121 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 6:14:06am

Utter batshit hysteria at Red State:

HURR HURR TEH BIRTH CONTROLS CAN KILL YOU!!!!!!

122 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:15:43am

re: #113 Lidane

Oh, and we might be headed towards another government shutdown.

Fun times.

Yay shutdown! It will give the candidates more time to campaign for reelection! Win-win!

123 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 6:15:46am

re: #121 Pie-onist Overlord

Utter batshit hysteria at Red State:

HURR HURR TEH BIRTH CONTROLS CAN KILL YOU!!!!!!

The RWNJ obsession with the sexual and reproductive lives of other people is very telling. These cretins aren’t happy unless they’re the ones in control.

124 ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2014 6:16:49am

re: #107 ObserverArt

Here is a taste of him in 2012 (70 years old) doing a version of Fleetwood Macs Mystery Train.

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Dang…still early and brain and fingers are not connected. The video is Fleetwood Mac “Oh Well” and the band is Jim McCarty Mystery Train.

Sheesh…

125 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 6:17:32am

re: #121 Pie-onist Overlord

Utter batshit hysteria at Red State:

HURR HURR TEH BIRTH CONTROLS CAN KILL YOU!!!!!!

Because, as we all know, pregnancy is totally safe and women never die from childbirth.

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126 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:17:49am

re: #121 Pie-onist Overlord

Utter batshit hysteria at Red State:

HURR HURR TEH BIRTH CONTROLS CAN KILL YOU!!!!!!

And how many children does Erick have?

127 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:18:14am

re: #125 Targetpractice

Because, as we all know, pregnancy is totally safe and women never die from childbirth.

////

Oh come on, it’s a walk in the park.

128 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:18:44am

re: #122 darthstar

Yay shutdown! It will give the candidates more time to campaign for reelection! Win-win!

Oh, Jesus..McCarthy’s against the Export Import bank. Stupid, stupid fucker.

129 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 6:19:04am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

And how many children does Erick have?

It’s not an article by Erick, it’s one of his female groupies, who’s spinning an example of misconduct on the part of pharmaceutical companies into “proof” that contraceptives are dangerous to women.

130 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:19:17am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

And how many children does Erick have?

And can anything be done to save them?

131 ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2014 6:19:45am

re: #116 lawhawk

So, the gun enthusiasts will use this as proof that we need more guns in circulation (and that’s the Drudge angle). Except that it actually can be used as the counter argument - that but for a mentally ill man’s access to firearms, the doctor would not have needed to use the gun in the first place as self defense:

So, a man with a history of suicide attempts and a criminal record was still able to obtain a gun. It is not known at this point whether Potts obtained the gun legally or not, but Potts did have firearms violations in the past.

I thought that same line of thinking when I heard the details this morning in the news. The NRA will be all over this.

132 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 6:21:21am

Good morning lizards! I may be getting back into the mortgage business again and I miss the excitement. I am going to call a recruiter I spoke to last February. Selling cable is getting tough.

133 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 6:21:41am
134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 6:21:59am

re: #125 Targetpractice

Because, as we all know, pregnancy is totally safe and women never die from childbirth.

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Sex has to have consequences! And unless a woman is legally married, the consequences should be dire and serve as a warning to others!!!

135 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 6:22:23am
136 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:23:29am

re: #135 Pie-onist Overlord

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Now that’s going to make a lot of heads explode. Very courageous of them.

137 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:24:01am

re: #129 Targetpractice

It’s not an article by Erick, it’s one of his female groupies, who’s spinning an example of misconduct on the part of pharmaceutical companies into “proof” that contraceptives are dangerous to women.

Well I’ll ask the same thing given that contraceptive use is nearly universal except if your name is Duggar.

138 ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2014 6:24:36am

re: #135 Pie-onist Overlord

[Wonderful Jewish and Arab couple showing that love knows no bounds #P2 #UniteBlue #LGBT #Winning #Win #Truth ]

And just think…certain Christians here in America can hate on both of them for a multitude of reasons.

/

139 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 6:27:44am

re: #128 darthstar

And even moderate and good policies like prison and drug sentencing reform proposals, which have bipartisan support from Rand Paul, Paul Ryan!, and Cory Booker will be shelved, well… because. It’s DC.

Gridlock is what we have, and even good ideas get shelved because the inmates running the House aren’t about to let anything happen that might inure benefit to Democrats, let alone the White House.

Compromise isn’t part of their vocabulary. Even when they lose, they think they win. Heck, even the proposals that ended the last government shut down were on their terms - and they hated it. The sequester gave them the across the board spending cuts they had demanded, but then complain when the economy isn’t growing fast (because there is a correlation between government spending and economic growth).

So now they’re back to where they were last summer. They’re itching for a repeat of a shutdown. In the meantime, the Senate will be taking up the House’s interim highway funding bill. It’s meant to kick the can down the road, rather than carry out a rational discussion that prioritizes funding and improves how we spend on infrastructure.

The current Congress will simply wait for the next crisis and pass interim legislation because they can’t do anything else. That’s on this House GOP, which refuses to do anything but.

140 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:28:20am

re: #138 ObserverArt

And just think…certain Christians here in America can hate on both of them for a multitude of reasons.

/

Sad but true.

141 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 6:29:23am
142 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 6:30:02am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Now that’s going to make a lot of heads explode. Very courageous of them.

Israel is light years ahead of any other Mideast country when it comes to gay rights. Some call this “pinkwashing”

143 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 6:31:32am

re: #142 Pie-onist Overlord

Israel is light years ahead of any other Mideast country when it comes to gay rights. Some call this “pinkwashing”

They were allowing openly gay people to serve in the military before we did as I was fond of pointing out to Christian fundamentalists who claimed that allowing gays to serve would ruin our military.

144 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 6:33:59am

There is a lizard sex satellite floating in space and Russia no longer has it under control

At this very moment, a Russian satellite full of geckos — (possibly) having sex — is floating around in space — and mission control has lost the ability to control it.

The Foton-M4 research satellite launched on July 19 with five geckos on board. The plan: To observe their mating activities in the zero-gravity conditions of Earth orbit. Several other earthly creatures, including plants and insects, were also placed on board for experiments.

But shortly after the satellite made its first few orbits, it stopped responding to commands from mission control. The equipment on board, however, is still sending scientific data back to earth, a spokesman for Russia’s Institute of Biomedical Problems said.

145 alpuz  Jul 25, 2014 6:34:11am

Way OT, but I have the rainy day off so I’m browsing netflix. If any of you grew up riding the stakedoarb, there’s a great documentary/film on netflix about the Bones Brigade. As a kid who grew up in this era it tugs at some heartstrings.

I highly recommend it to anyone who’s interested in the origins of skateboarding and the art, dedication, and talent involved.

PS. I got many a beat down in the 90’s for riding a skateboard.

netflix.com

bonesbrigade.com

146 b.d.  Jul 25, 2014 6:35:16am
Vladimir Putin’s daughter flees Netherlands penthouse as outrage grows over doomed Malaysia Flight MH17

Maria Putin, 29, has apparently ditched her $3.3 million home near Amsterdam. She lived there with her Dutch boyfriend. The daughter of Russian President Vladimir Putin has become a target of fury since Russia has been suspected of being involved in shooting down the Malaysian plane.

Read more: nydailynews.com

It takes either a very brave or a very stupid man to shack up with Putin’s daughter.

147 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 6:35:53am

It’s essentially calling for a 1-week cooling off period, and the Netenyahu security cabinet is meeting to discuss. Given the Israeli willingness to accept ceasefires proposed previously by the US, UN, and ICRC, they’ll probably accept this one as well.

What Hamas does is anyone’s guess. They should accept it, but will probably insist on airing all their grievances once again and demanding that Israel immediately open up borders and other steps before Hamas stops their shelling of Israel.

Pretty much the only ones supporting Hamas at this point are the Iranians, who are more than willing to let more Gazans die.

Complicating matters is the heavy handed way Israel is dealing with protests in the West Bank, where several protesters were killed by Israeli forces. That’s not good - Israel needs to get Abbas and Palestinians living in both Gaza and the West Bank to choose peace, and killings during demonstrations/protests isn’t going to do that.

148 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 6:35:57am

re: #139 lawhawk

This time around, the reasons for possible shutdown are even more inane. Last time, it was all about Obamacare, and their belief that opposition to it was so great that the public would rise up and demand Democrats knuckle under to efforts to undermine the law. In reality, the public didn’t start to give a damn about the shutdown until we started flirting with the debt ceiling, at which point polls quickly soured for the GOTP and they were the ones who gave in.

This time, they’re going to be stuck in the weeks before the mid-term elections trying to convince the public that shutting down the government over the Ex-Im Bank and CO2 regulations is a good thing. I very much doubt they’re gonna have any better success than last time.

149 Bulworth  Jul 25, 2014 6:36:00am

re:
#113

Democrats broadly support Ex-Im renewal and a significant number of Senate Republicans do, too. “I think we do need to have an Export-Import Bank because we do need to be global competitively,” Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) said. “We don’t want to shoot ourselves in the foot.”

Dude, man, ‘shooting ourselves in the foot’ is your party’s mantra.

150 Joanne  Jul 25, 2014 6:38:26am

re: #148 Targetpractice

This time around, the reasons for possible shutdown are even more inane. Last time, it was all about Obamacare, and their belief that opposition to it was so great that the public would rise up and demand Democrats knuckle under to efforts to undermine the law. In reality, the public didn’t start to give a damn about the shutdown until we started flirting with the debt ceiling, at which point polls quickly soured for the GOTP and they were the ones who gave in.

Way too many people think that default would be a good thing. Reboot. Fresh start. Blah blah blah. The clueless…who vote.

151 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 6:38:35am

re: #149 Bulworth

re:
#113

Dude, man, ‘shooting ourselves in the foot’ is your party’s mantra.

All the Koch shills want the Ex-Im Bank to be destroyed, that means it must be doing something they think hurts them.

152 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:38:38am

Charles? Are you being a bad boy?

153 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 6:38:42am

re: #147 lawhawk

Hamas will definitely use the ceasefire time to re-arm itself.

154 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 6:39:28am

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

There is a lizard sex satellite floating in space and Russia no longer has it under control

But shortly after the satellite made its first few orbits, it stopped responding to commands from mission control.

Well, duh. Lizards in zero G (especially in large groups) don’t even need opposable thumbs, their coordinated tail action pushes buttons and flips levers to countermand any orders mission control might transmit.

155 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 6:40:26am

re: #154 sagehen

Well, duh. Lizards in zero G (especially in large groups) don’t even need opposable thumbs, their coordinated tail action pushes buttons and flips levers to countermand any orders mission control might transmit.

Then again they do want some privacy up there.

156 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 6:40:53am

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

There is a lizard sex satellite floating in space and Russia no longer has it under control

Something to think about when you and your best girl are staring up into the summer night sky…

157 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 6:41:00am
158 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 6:42:23am

re: #150 Joanne

Way too many people think that default would be a good thing. Reboot. Fresh start. Blah blah blah. The clueless…who vote.

That’s because most of those who buy into this shit have been duped by the people who likely stand to gain the most from the subsequent market crash.

159 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 6:43:24am

re: #151 Pie-onist Overlord

All the Koch shills want the Ex-Im Bank to be destroyed, that means it must be doing something they think hurts them.

It offers attractive financing terms to importers and exporters who don’t have as much cash on hand as the Kochs do, thus allowing for competition.

160 b.d.  Jul 25, 2014 6:43:54am

re: #152 darthstar

Charles? Are you being a bad boy?

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Thanks Putin. Signed; The Future.

161 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:43:57am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Something to think about when you and your best girl are staring up into the summer night sky…

Better than an afternoon on a hot rock…

162 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:45:55am

re: #160 b.d.

Thanks Putin. Signed; The Future.

And when they come back, they’ll look just like us…

163 darthstar  Jul 25, 2014 6:47:56am

Honestly, as much as the media tries to deny it, we could see a return of the wave this fall…

164 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 6:49:37am

More of this, please:

Federal Judge: Firing Squads, Guillotine More ‘Foolproof’ In Executing Inmates

“I’ve always thought executions should be executions, not medical procedures,” Chief Judge Alex Kozinski of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals told the Associated Press.

Kozinski, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan, told the AP that he thought lethal injections were a “dishonest” attempt to cover up the brutality of capital punishment. He said a properly trained firing squad, or even the guillotine, would be a “foolproof” way to execute an inmate without the complications lethal injections can pose — although Kozinski conceded that the public probably wouldn’t be comfortable with bringing back the guillotine.

He’s right. If we have to have a death penalty in this country, it should be quick and honest. As long as there is an illusion that all we’re doing is putting someone to sleep, we’re not going to get anywhere. Every botched execution will just be met with indifference and no one will care about the imbalances in the application of the death penalty in this country.

165 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 6:55:57am

re: #164 Lidane

More of this, please:

Federal Judge: Firing Squads, Guillotine More ‘Foolproof’ In Executing Inmates

He’s right. If we have to have a death penalty in this country, it should be quick and honest. As long as there is an illusion that all we’re doing is putting someone to sleep, we’re not going to get anywhere. Every botched execution will just be met with indifference and no one will care about the imbalances in the application of the death penalty in this country.

Also: every judge and juror who sit on a death penalty case should be required to attend the execution and pull the lanyard/trigger/trapdoor

166 Bulworth  Jul 25, 2014 6:55:57am

re:
#157

I’m sure the comments are full of positive vibes about the generorisity of strangers. /

168 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:05:21am

re: #163 darthstar

Honestly, as much as the media tries to deny it, we could see a return of the wave this fall…

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I guess even Kansas voters are tired of the theocon crap.

169 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 7:07:51am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I guess even Kansas voters are tired of the theocon crap.

Nah, what’s sinking Brownback is that the state economy is in the shitter due to his going Full Metal Wingnut with the state’s tax code, doing away with the income tax for most of those in the upper brackets, trying to make up for it by shitting on the poor, and engaging in some rather hinky means of patching up the holes blown in the budget.

170 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 7:08:29am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

A drop in education performance and a budget gap caused by tax cuts will do that. That, plus the fact that the tax cuts didn’t bring about the economic growth they claimed would overcome the tax cuts.

171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:09:39am

re: #170 lawhawk

A drop in education performance and a budget gap caused by tax cuts will do that. That, plus the fact that the tax cuts didn’t bring about the economic growth they claimed would overcome the tax cuts.

Must be Obama’s fault for intruducing ACA

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172 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:10:17am

re: #169 Targetpractice

Nah, what’s sinking Brownback is that the state economy is in the shitter due to his going Full Metal Wingnut with the state’s tax code, doing away with the income tax for most of those in the upper brackets, trying to make up for it by shitting on the poor, and engaging in some rather hinky means of patching up the holes blown in the budget.

Ah I stand corrected then. Now to go to our own state of Va, Warner won’t have any problems with Gillespie. Haven’t seen any polling for my district though. Hoping Foust can beat Comstock. Relieved though that Bob Marshall did not win the GOP primary because just the thought of him having a chance to be my Congressman made me sick.

173 ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2014 7:12:19am

re: #169 Targetpractice

Nah, what’s sinking Brownback is that the state economy is in the shitter due to his going Full Metal Wingnut with the state’s tax code, doing away with the income tax for most of those in the upper brackets, trying to make up for it by shitting on the poor, and engaging in some rather hinky means of patching up the holes blown in the budget.

And that same kind of ‘management’ is in several other states. I’m hoping it blows back on several governors in places like here in Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, Texas, etc.

Time for voters of all stripes to send a message.

And I have not given up on a few surprise in this fall’s election to hit some Republican Senators and Representatives. They keep going TeaNutty so I hope for a slap from the real people.

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2014 7:13:01am
175 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 7:13:14am

And, of course, Brownback is excusing the fact that his state’s budget is doing its best impression of the sinking of the Titanic, in contrast to virtually every state around it, by (of course) blaming the President while also trying to argue that the tax cuts need “more time” to work properly.

176 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:15:01am
SSU (Ukraine’s Security Service) releases a recording of the telephone conversation between terrorists two minutes before the Boeing-777 tragedy on 17 July.

Specifically, the recording proves that the terrorists from the group of Igor Bezler, (aka “Bies” (Devil), lieutenant-colonel of GRU, Russia’s Military Intelligence Directorate) knew about the approaching aircraft. After the subordinates reported to “Bies” about the approaching jet-liner, he commanded to pass the information up the command chain.

Youtube Video

177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:19:15am

re: #176 NJDhockeyfan

It has already been established in Russian media that this is a fabrication.

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178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:19:41am

In Russia, lie fabricates YOU!!!

179 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:23:37am

This is a disaster waiting to happen…

First Ebola victim in Sierra Leone capital on the run

(Reuters) - Sierra Leone officials appealed for help on Friday to trace the first known resident in the capital with Ebola whose family forcibly removed her from a Freetown hospital after testing positive for the deadly disease.

Radio stations in Freetown, a city of around 1 million inhabitants, broadcast the appeal on Friday to locate a woman who tested positive for the disease that has killed 660 people across Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone since an outbreak was first identified in February.

“Saudatu Koroma of 25 Old Railway Line, Brima Lane, Wellington,” the announcement said. “She is a positive case and her being out there is a risk to all. We need the public to help us locate her.”

Koroma, 32, a resident of the densely populated Wellington neighborhood, had been admitted to an isolation ward while blood samples were tested for the virus, Health ministry spokesman Sidi Yahya Tunis. The results came back on Thursday.

“The family of the patient stormed the hospital and forcefully removed her and took her away,” Tunis said. “We are searching for her.”

180 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 7:23:51am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s actually Brownback’s fallback - that Obama wrecked the economy in KS with his economic policies. Except that Kansas (and NJ, where Christie has likewise presided over a collapsing economy) have seen tax receipts drop by a greater percentage than other states, indicating that it is local factors that explain the shortfalls.

In NJ, it’s the fact that the casinos are failing in Atlantic City and aren’t driving revenues as they did just a few years ago. More competition plus the fact that Christie’s internet gambling revenue projections were off by a factor of 15 (expected $180 million, got about $12). Four casinos are set to close or are teetering on bankruptcy. Since 2006, Atlantic City’s casino revenue has collapsed from a high of $5.2 billion to $2.86 billion last year. That’s billions that NJ could have used to spend on infrastructure or education, but instead Christie had to raid the Port Authority to get money to do road work on the Pulaski Skyway (among other things).

Kansas doesn’t have the same situation. There, the issue is much more straight forward. Brownback pushed tax cuts and decimated the tax revenue, leaving the state with a massive shortfall. He was hoping for voodoo economics to save the day, but that’s why it’s voodoo. It just doesn’t work.

181 ObserverArt  Jul 25, 2014 7:26:47am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like a muppet.

182 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:27:47am
183 sattv4u2  Jul 25, 2014 7:28:31am

re: #181 ObserverArt

Looks like a muppet.

Cookie Monster would be my guess

184 aagcobb  Jul 25, 2014 7:30:16am

re: #180 lawhawk

That’s actually Brownback’s fallback - that Obama wrecked the economy in KS with his economic policies. Except that Kansas (and NJ, where Christie has likewise presided over a collapsing economy) have seen tax receipts drop by a greater percentage than other states, indicating that it is local factors that explain the shortfalls.

In NJ, it’s the fact that the casinos are failing in Atlantic City and aren’t driving revenues as they did just a few years ago. More competition plus the fact that Christie’s internet gambling revenue projections were off by a factor of 15 (expected $180 million, got about $12). Four casinos are set to close or are teetering on bankruptcy. Since 2006, Atlantic City’s casino revenue has collapsed from a high of $5.2 billion to $2.86 billion last year. That’s billions that NJ could have used to spend on infrastructure or education, but instead Christie had to raid the Port Authority to get money to do road work on the Pulaski Skyway (among other things).

Kansas doesn’t have the same situation. There, the issue is much more straight forward. Brownback pushed tax cuts and decimated the tax revenue, leaving the state with a massive shortfall. He was hoping for voodoo economics to save the day, but that’s why it’s voodoo. It just doesn’t work.

But Reagan!

185 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 7:32:45am

re: #184 aagcobb

But Reagan!

…proved that cut taxes don’t work because the economy nosedived almost immediately after he passed them and didn’t begin to recover until after he’d already signed off on new tax increases and increased federal spending.

186 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:32:52am
187 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:33:17am

Obama is every Republican’s fallback position when their policies fail to produce desired results.

188 Dr Lizardo  Jul 25, 2014 7:35:15am

re: #179 NJDhockeyfan

This is a disaster waiting to happen…

First Ebola victim in Sierra Leone capital on the run

That’s how apocalyptic disaster films usually start off.

189 Bulworth  Jul 25, 2014 7:36:50am

Seriously, this headline was on page A1 of my Wash Post this morning—

Some Republicans push compassionate, anti-poverty agenda ahead of 2016 contest

The last time Republicans began running for president, there was a race to be the most confrontational, the most unbending. Mitt Romney said he was “severely conservative” and got caught mocking the “47 percent.” Rick Perry called the Federal Reserve “treasonous.” Rick Santorum said he was “for income inequality.”

What a difference a disastrous election, two years and terrible polling make. If 2012 was a contest to be the toughest, the 2016 presidential Republican primary is likely to include a competition to appear the most compassionate.

The rebranding effort is taking center stage this week with pleas for more compassion from four potential GOP presidential candidates: Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Rand Paul (Ky.), House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (Wis.) and former Florida governor Jeb Bush. The Republicans are working to redefine the GOP as kinder, more connected to the daily economic anxieties of poor Americans — and better able to win national elections.

REBRANDING!!!!

Seriously, wtactualf? Trying to kill Obamacare’s subsidies for RED STATE citizens. Shrieking hysterically over the child migrants at the border.

washingtonpost.com

190 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 7:37:12am

re: #170 lawhawk

A drop in education performance and a budget gap caused by tax cuts will do that. That, plus the fact that the tax cuts didn’t bring about the economic growth they claimed would overcome the tax cuts.

Only once in this country have tax cuts created enough growth to create enough revenue to make up for themselves.

When the Kennedy admin reduced the top rate from 92% to 70%, and some middle-rate 70%ers and 80%ers went down to 55%… the ultrarich stopped pouring most of their money into tax-free foundations and thus had TEN TIMES AS MUCH TAXABLE INCOME. while the regular rich just had 50% more to spend and they spent it on American products. (1960’s Europe and Asia were still busy rebuilding their cities and highways and airports and railways and sewage systems and everything else, they weren’t making a lot of exports. Also, they were buying a lot of the concrete and steel and bulldozers from us).

191 Dr Lizardo  Jul 25, 2014 7:38:01am

re: #179 NJDhockeyfan

Also from that story,

On Thursday authorities in Nigeria announced that they were testing a Liberian man for Ebola after he collapsed upon arrival at an airport in Lagos, the country’s commercial capital and a mega-city of 21 million people.

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this movie before, a few times actually. It usually doesn’t end well.

192 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:39:08am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

That’s how apocalyptic disaster films usually start off.

That scares me more than wars or nuclear attacks. You don’t see it coming.

193 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:40:44am

re: #189 Bulworth

Seriously, this headline was on page A1 of my Wash Post this morning—

REBRANDING!!!!

Seriously, wtactualf? Trying to kill Obamacare’s subsidies for RED STATE citizens. Shrieking hysterically over the child migrants at the border.

washingtonpost.com

Yeah, they keep on talking about GOP “re-branding” but it’s the same old shit. Oh and a House GOPer likened the migrant children to catch and release fish yesterday. The GOP thinks they can just hide what colossal pricks they are and that will win people over.

194 The War TARDIS  Jul 25, 2014 7:41:07am

re: #189 Bulworth

The chuckleheads are trying to push a horse-race. Now, they are trying to Whitewash the Republicans.

Here is the thing:The Washington Post is not the only source of news.

195 Dr Lizardo  Jul 25, 2014 7:41:14am

re: #192 NJDhockeyfan

That scares me more than wars or nuclear attacks. You don’t see it coming.

Yeah. Like this.

Vimeo

196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:42:08am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

That’s how apocalyptic disaster films usually start off.

The novel World War Z (forget the film) is a brilliant fable about how humans fail to deal with crises: first by ignoring them, then denying them, then instituting measures to keep panic from spreading, which wind up causing the problem to spread even more and then by applying standard methods that totally fail to work.

197 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 7:42:26am

re: #185 Targetpractice

…proved that cut taxes don’t work because the economy nosedived almost immediately after he passed them and didn’t begin to recover until after he’d already signed off on new tax increases and increased federal spending.

Reagan also did some sleight-of-hand in that the initial tax cuts drastically reduced rates for the wealthiest, and the later tax hikes were mostly lower down the ladder (especially the payroll tax and FICA).

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 7:42:54am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Also from that story,

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this movie before, a few times actually. It usually doesn’t end well.

Now we know why the Algerian airliner had to crash.

199 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 7:43:13am

re: #189 Bulworth

Seriously, this headline was on page A1 of my Wash Post this morning—

REBRANDING!!!!

Seriously, wtactualf? Trying to kill Obamacare’s subsidies for RED STATE citizens. Shrieking hysterically over the child migrants at the border.

washingtonpost.com

I’m pretty sure I watched this film back in 2000. Remember “compassionate conservatism”?

200 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:43:43am

re: #189 Bulworth

Seriously, this headline was on page A1 of my Wash Post this morning—

REBRANDING!!!!

Seriously, wtactualf? Trying to kill Obamacare’s subsidies for RED STATE citizens. Shrieking hysterically over the child migrants at the border.

washingtonpost.com

Like an alcoholic. In sober, lucid moments, they know what they have to do. But then they quickly fall back into their old habits and forget until the next crisis envelops them.

201 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:43:50am

re: #199 Targetpractice

I’m pretty sure I watched this film back in 2000. Remember “compassionate conservatism”?

Yep. Same shit, different year.

202 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 7:44:25am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The novel World War Z (forget the film) is a brilliant fable about how humans fail to deal with crises: first by ignoring them, then denying them, then instituting measures to keep panic from spreading, which wind up causing the problem to spread even more and then by applying standard methods that totally fail to work.

“Most people don’t believe something can happen until it already has. That’s not stupidity or weakness, that’s just human nature. “

203 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:44:34am

In a way I guess the re=branding part is true. They’re just changing the way they’re selling themselves without changing the very true fact that their party and ideology is for theocrats and plutocrats.

204 aagcobb  Jul 25, 2014 7:46:06am

re: #189 Bulworth

Seriously, this headline was on page A1 of my Wash Post this morning—

REBRANDING!!!!

Seriously, wtactualf? Trying to kill Obamacare’s subsidies for RED STATE citizens. Shrieking hysterically over the child migrants at the border.

washingtonpost.com

Not Ted Cruz; he’s still running like its 2012 to be the purest conservative.

205 Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2014 7:46:14am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cookie Monster.

206 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:46:43am
207 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 7:48:47am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

In a way I guess the re=branding part is true. They’re just changing the way they’re selling themselves without changing the very true fact that their party and ideology is for theocrats and plutocrats.

in music business terms — they’re putting all their creatives into marketing and promotion, the A&R dept still sucks.

208 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:49:13am

re: #207 sagehen

in music business terms — they’re putting all their creatives into marketing and promotion, the A&R dept still sucks.

So you mean they’re like KISS.

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2014 7:49:38am

re: #189 Bulworth

210 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 7:50:11am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

So you mean they’re like KISS.

I was gonna say Celine Dion, but okay, that works too.

211 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:50:42am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Same guy who thinks he can get the African American vote while he admits that he would have opposed the most important civil rights legislation of the past 100 years.

212 Bulworth  Jul 25, 2014 7:50:58am

re:
#193

I was just…my jaw almost dropped to the floor reading this headline. It’s like nobody at the Post has been following the news for the past five years. Just the past couple of months should have been enough.

213 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:51:05am

re: #210 sagehen

I was gonna say Celine Dion, but okay, that works too.

That works too.

214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 7:51:49am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

Immigration reform to Rand Paul means rounding up and deporting all undocumented aliens, building a border fence and shooting anything that tries to cross it.

Anything else is a compromise and compromise is a sign of weakness and lack of resolve.

215 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:52:01am

I mean it’s easy to talk like you’re more concerned about the poor but when you haven’t done shit when it comes to actual policies to help the less well off and moreover fight tooth and nail policies that do. You’re full of shit.

216 Stanley Sea  Jul 25, 2014 7:53:12am
217 Bulworth  Jul 25, 2014 7:53:31am

re:
#215

Yeah maybe they could stop trying to kill Obamacare, for starters. Allow the working poor to get the subsidies the law obviously intended for them, regardless of how heartless their state governors/legislatures are in not setting up exchanges. Oh, they’re GOP, too. Oh well.

218 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:53:31am

It’s all about appearing nicer though while not actually doing anything lest their bigoted base get upset.

219 Killgore Trout  Jul 25, 2014 7:53:40am

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan

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Australia will send 100 additional police and some defense force personnel to Europe to join a planned Dutch-led international security force to secure the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 crash site, Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on Friday.

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) officers, some of whom will be armed, will join a contingent of 90 AFP officers already in London waiting for a deal with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to be approved by Ukraine’s parliament.

I wonder if we’re involved in this effort. No mention of it.

220 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 7:53:59am

The 2014 Ebola outbreak is larger than all the previous outbreaks. More fatalities in this outbreak (660 of 1,093 and 786 have been positively confirmed as Ebola) than everyone who was infected in the next largest outbreak (Uganda in 2000), which had 425 infected.

It’s spreading in parts of Africa that have never seen the disease before, and we’re talking about a fatality rate of 60%. Many of those who have died have been health professionals tending to the sick, including one doctor who was a leading researcher.

This is scary stuff alright.

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2014 7:55:22am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Same guy who thinks he can get the African American vote while he admits that he would have opposed the most important civil rights legislation of the past 100 years.

Urban League gives Paul positive but lukewarm reception

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul received a positive but lukewarm response when he spoke before the National Urban League conference in Cincinnati on Friday morning.
Before a half-filled auditorium of about 60 people at the Duke Energy Convention, Paul highlighted policies of his that he thinks could bridge the gap between minority communities and the GOP. His 30-minute speech that repeatedly referenced civil rights icons Martin Luther King and Clyde Kennard, a black man who attempted to enroll in Mississippi Southern College during the 1950s.
Paul spoke of his support for restoring the voting rights for felons and other criminal justice reforms. He also outlined his Economic Freedom Zones proposal for poor neighborhoods.

I was watching the livestream but had to stop before I was forced to kill my computer.

222 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 7:55:29am

Silver lining department… if 40% of the people on Earth die, that solves global warming, right?

The plague was pretty miserable for the people who were there, but the people 100 years later were much better off because of it.

223 Killgore Trout  Jul 25, 2014 7:57:12am

A good analysis of the document circulating online about the ISIS FGM story
Doubts surround ISIS ‘FGM edict’

224 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 7:57:33am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Urban League gives Paul positive but lukewarm reception

I was watching the livestream but had to stop before I was forced to kill my computer.

Paul’s other problem is that he’s a condescending asshole. I still remember him thinking he pulled a fast one over the Howard students when he pointed out that the founders of the NAACP were all Republicans and that they’d(the student body) be “shocked” to know that. Fact of the matter is the African-American community knows that Paul’s party was the party of Civil Rights for many years, they also know that the same party has embraced the same bigotry that the NAACP has spent decades fighting.

225 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 7:58:07am

Grifters gotta grift:

Antigay Bakery Happy to Provide Ex-Gay Cakes to Ministry

An Oregon bakery that refuses to bake wedding cakes for same-sex couples is now proudly touting cakes made for an ex-gay organization.

Sweet Cakes by Melissa, which rose to national attention and drew the ire of civil rights organizations in 2013 for refusing to make a cake for a lesbian couple’s wedding, posted a photo to its Facebook page of baked goods commissioned for Restored Hope, a religious organization that advocates for gay conversion therapy.

If your feelings about teh ghey keep you from mixing flour, sugar, butter, vanilla, milk, and eggs in different combinations for people to eat, you’re doing it wrong. It’s cake, for fuck’s sake. It’s not like you’re being asked to do anything but provide a dessert.

226 Killgore Trout  Jul 25, 2014 7:58:25am
227 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 7:58:46am

Heh

World’s oldest joke traced back to 1900 BC

It is a saying of the Sumerians, who lived in what is now southern Iraq and goes: “Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband’s lap.”

It heads the world’s oldest top 10 joke list published by the University of Wolverhampton Thursday.

A 1600 BC gag about a pharaoh, said to be King Snofru, comes second — “How do you entertain a bored pharaoh? You sail a boatload of young women dressed only in fishing nets down the Nile and urge the pharaoh to go catch a fish.”

The oldest British joke dates back to the 10th Century and reveals the bawdy face of the Anglo-Saxons — “What hangs at a man’s thigh and wants to poke the hole that it’s often poked before? Answer: A key.”

“Jokes have varied over the years, with some taking the question and answer format while others are witty proverbs or riddles,” said the report’s writer Dr Paul McDonald, senior lecturer at the university.

“What they all share however, is a willingness to deal with taboos and a degree of rebellion. Modern puns, Essex girl jokes and toilet humor can all be traced back to the very earliest jokes identified in this research.”

228 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 8:00:15am
229 Killgore Trout  Jul 25, 2014 8:00:25am

re: #227 NJDhockeyfan

“Jokes have varied over the years, with some taking the question and answer format while others are witty proverbs or riddles,” said the report’s writer Dr Paul McDonald, senior lecturer at the university.

“What they all share however, is a willingness to deal with taboos and a degree of rebellion.

Outrage!

230 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:01:14am

re: #225 Lidane

Grifters gotta grift:

Antigay Bakery Happy to Provide Ex-Gay Cakes to Ministry

If your feelings about teh ghey keep you from mixing flour, sugar, butter, vanilla, milk, and eggs in different combinations for people to eat, you’re doing it wrong. It’s cake, for fuck’s sake. It’s not like you’re being asked to do anything but provide a dessert.

What I wonder is what businessman with any sense at all says to himself “No, I’m going to deny my product to a certain part of the population.” Say I own a bakery, even if I can’t stand these anti-gay bigots, I’m not going to deny them service because I think they’re anti gay bigots. It’s really childish and pathetic to deny someone service at a frigging bakery because you think homosexuality is sinful. Is this bakery also denying service to divorcees, people who work on Sunday, etc? I doubt it. It’s stupid selective petty crap disguised as religious liberty and I hope their bakery fails due to their bigotry and stupidity.

231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 8:01:18am

re: #228 Targetpractice

Prison chief: Parts of Arizona’s botched execution went “perfectly”

NASA: Parts of Challenger launch went “perfectly”

233 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 8:02:03am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Prison chief: Parts of Arizona’s botched execution went “perfectly”

NASA: Parts of Challenger launch went “perfectly”

It was a totally routine launch…right up until it exploded. Let’s not rush to any conclusions.

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234 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:02:31am

re: #228 Targetpractice

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I read that as prison chef and was thinking why is the chef commenting.

235 sagehen  Jul 25, 2014 8:03:25am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

I read that as prison chef and was thinking why is the chef commenting.

His last meal was superb?

236 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:03:55am

re: #235 sagehen

His last meal was superb?

Yeah good point.

237 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 8:04:13am
238 BeachDem  Jul 25, 2014 8:04:42am

re: #207 sagehen

in music business terms — they’re putting all their creatives into marketing and promotion, the A&R dept still sucks.

And in the advertising business, it’s nothing kills a bad product faster than good advertising.

239 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 25, 2014 8:05:15am

Whats up with vile cupcake shops this week? Yesterday was the NYC cupcake truck and today we have this…

240 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:06:37am

re: #239 NJDhockeyfan

Whats up with vile cupcake shops this week? Yesterday was the NYC cupcake truck and today we have this…

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A vegan cup cake shop tied to Italian neo-fascists. Now, I’ve seen everything.

241 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 8:08:20am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

It’s stupid selective petty crap disguised as religious liberty and I hope their bakery fails due to their bigotry and stupidity.

I actually had someone try to use the whole “Would you ask a kosher or halal bakery to sell you a bacon cake?” garbage with me to try and justify the idiocy of denying a cake to a gay couple on religious grounds. I pointed out that if a bakery offered anything with bacon in it, it’s not kosher or halal to begin with. And no, supplying your own bacon for them to use in your cake doesn’t change that, either.

Honestly, if your bigotry against gays or whoever gets in the way of you making a cake, you’re a douchebag.

242 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 25, 2014 8:08:28am
243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 25, 2014 8:09:20am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

A vegan cup cake shop tied to Italian neo-fascists. Now, I’ve seen everything.

Mussolini muffins?

244 lawhawk  Jul 25, 2014 8:11:51am

CNN: Majority of Americans don’t think President should be impeached, but majority of GOPers do.

[A]ccording to the poll, only 35% want Obama impeached, with nearly two-thirds saying the President should not be removed from office.

There’s an obvious partisan divide, with 57% of Republicans but only 35% of independents and 13% of Democrats backing a move to impeach Obama.

“Anti-impeachment sentiment is roughly where it was for past presidents - 67% opposed Bill Clinton’s impeachment in September 1998, and 69% opposed impeaching George W. Bush when a few Democrats began talking about it in 2006,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

“One reason may be that Americans take impeachment very seriously. Only about one in five say that impeachment is a valid response if Congress is dissatisfied with a president’s policies or the way he is handling his job. Nearly eight in 10 say impeachment should be reserved for high crimes and misdemeanors,” Holland adds.

What do you expect when you’ve got an echo chamber on the RW pushing nonsense day in-day out that demands impeachment for every slight or issue that doesn’t favor the GOP.

Executive order? Impeach.
Reasonable regulations? Impeach.
Not bending the laws of time and space (f/k/a Benghazi)? Impeach.
Not controlling world events, even when no one actually has a way to control them? Impeach.
Propose reasonable gun control regulations? Impeach.

That’s the GOP platform. Impeach. And what they can’t impeach, they’ll move to repeal in a vain attempt to keep the rank and file happy (and their campaign coffers full).

245 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:12:03am

re: #241 Lidane

I actually had someone try to use the whole “Would you ask a kosher or halal bakery to sell you a bacon cake?” garbage with me to try and justify the idiocy of denying a cake to a gay couple on religious grounds. I pointed out that if a bakery offered anything with bacon in it, it’s not kosher or halal to begin with. And no, supplying your own bacon for them to use in your cake doesn’t change that, either.

Honestly, if your bigotry against gays or whoever gets in the way of you making a cake, you’re a douchebag.

Yeah VB has brought up people using that ridiciulous fallacy on Twitter. It’s just so stupid. As you point out, it become a a non kosher or halal bakery. There’s no such thing as a “Christian bakery” where you can only provide your product to people you deem worthy. To believe so is to believe that one should be able to deny service based on race which to be fair some of these more whacked wackos do believe is fine which is why they oppose the CRA of ‘64. It’s just so stupid. If you’re letting your “religious beliefs” get in the way of baking a happy couple a cake, you’re a douchebag of the highest level and disguising it as “religious principle” is just cowardice.

246 Teukka  Jul 25, 2014 8:12:45am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

A vegan cup cake shop tied to Italian neo-fascists. Now, I’ve seen everything.

Not that surprised. Hitler was a vegetarian. Not that every vegan is a Nazi, more like this particular store fell for the temptation of an assured market.
*cough*

247 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:13:26am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Mussolini muffins?

Don’t mind if I do. After being in Portugal though, I could go for an Estado Novo Pastel.

248 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:14:16am

re: #246 Teukka

Not that surprised. Hitler was a vegetarian. Not that every vegan is a Nazi, more like this particular store fell for the temptation of an assured market.
*cough*

I know, it’s just you know your stereotypical vegan and fascist are two totally different things.

249 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 25, 2014 8:14:38am

re: #241 Lidane

I actually had someone try to use the whole “Would you ask a kosher or halal bakery to sell you a bacon cake?” garbage with me to try and justify the idiocy of denying a cake to a gay couple on religious grounds. I pointed out that if a bakery offered anything with bacon in it, it’s not kosher or halal to begin with. And no, supplying your own bacon for them to use in your cake doesn’t change that, either.

Honestly, if your bigotry against gays or whoever gets in the way of you making a cake, you’re a douchebag.

Demanding a bacon cake from a kosher/halal/vegan bakery is NOT THE SAME as denying a cake to Teh Ghey.

It’s very simple to understand. Gay customers are requesting THE EXACT SAME CAKE that the bakery already supplies to non-gay customers. If they wanted a gay cake topper featuring two brides or two grooms, the sweatshop in China that makes those things probably does not have that product available so the bakery would have to sell them two hetero cake toppers which they can saw in half.

Maybe that would be discrimination, making a gay customer pay for two cake toppers.

250 Targetpractice  Jul 25, 2014 8:14:40am

re: #244 lawhawk

CNN: Majority of Americans don’t think President should be impeached, but majority of GOPers do.

What do you expect when you’ve got an echo chamber on the RW pushing nonsense day in-day out that demands impeachment for every slight or issue that doesn’t favor the GOP.

Executive order? Impeach.
Reasonable regulations? Impeach.
Not bending the laws of time and space (f/k/a Benghazi)? Impeach.
Not controlling world events, even when no one actually has a way to control them? Impeach.
Propose reasonable gun control regulations? Impeach.

That’s the GOP platform. Impeach. And what they can’t impeach, they’ll move to repeal in a vain attempt to keep the rank and file happy (and their campaign coffers full).

Hence Boehner’s attempt now to assuage the angry natives by offering them his piss-poor excuse of a lawsuit, banking on it either going nowhere due to the House being unable to show injury or the whole thing dragging on until way after the President has left office.

251 HappyWarrior  Jul 25, 2014 8:18:41am

re: #249 Pie-onist Overlord

Demanding a bacon cake from a kosher/halal/vegan bakery is NOT THE SAME as denying a cake to Teh Ghey.

It’s very simple to understand. Gay customers are requesting THE EXACT SAME CAKE that the bakery already supplies to non-gay customers. If they wanted a gay cake topper featuring two brides or two grooms, the sweatshop in China that makes those things probably does not have that product available so the bakery would have to sell them two hetero cake toppers which they can saw in half.

Maybe that would be discrimination, making a gay customer pay for two cake toppers.

Exactly. The hypothetical gay couple is demanding the same product that the non-gay one is. They’re not being asked to provide ingredients that in the case of a halal or kosher bakery being asked to provide bacon(why anyone would bacon on a dessert is beyond me) would go against their business. The whole crap about “Oh we deem homosexuality sinful.” There’s lots of sinful behavior out there. You never ever hear about these “Christian bakeries” denying service to couples who have one of the spouses marrying a second time. It’s bigotry and it’s the same crap that allowed Jim Crow to work for centuries.

252 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 25, 2014 8:24:49am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Prison chief: Parts of Arizona’s botched execution went “perfectly”

NASA: Parts of Challenger launch went “perfectly”

“Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”

253 Lidane  Jul 25, 2014 8:26:18am

re: #252 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

“Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”

“How was your trip to Dallas, Mrs. Kennedy?”

254 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 25, 2014 8:27:01am

re: #223 Killgore Trout

A good analysis of the document circulating online about the ISIS FGM story
Doubts surround ISIS ‘FGM edict’

Again, care to shed any light onto why you thought this story was even likely? It’d be a very bizarre thing for FGM to suddenly be pushed by Islamists in the Middle East, since it’s a cultural thing and not part of Islamic fundamentalism.

Was you falling for the story just part of your larger ignorance about Islam and the Middle East?

256 goddamnedfrank  Jul 25, 2014 1:05:38pm

re: #52 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Democratic Montana Rep John Walsh turns out to have plagiarized his master’s thesis.

Why do people who do shit like that go into politics, they’ve gotta know it’ll eventually come out.

Also, how is it that the US Army War College doesn’t require graduate theses to be submitted to TurnItIn?

257 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 25, 2014 1:08:32pm

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

Also, how is it that the US Army War College doesn’t require graduate theses to be submitted to TurnItIn?

I’m assuming this was awhile ago.


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