Sunday Night Jam: Los Lobos, “Short Side of Nothing”

Crows up on the rooftop, laughing out my name
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Here’s a great song from East LA’s own Los Lobos, performed live on eTown.

Dreams wash down the gutter
All my hopes in vain
Crows up on the rooftop
Laughing out my name

Here I am on the short side of nothing
Here I am on the short side of nothing

We danced all night as life stood by
We told another lie
Found a spot down by the roadside
There I closed my eyes

And here I am on the short side of nothing
Here I am on the short side of nothing
All alone, all alone
Can’t find my way home

Summer has come and the heat hangs low
No escape in sight
Sirens scream and lovers moan
Just like any other night

And here I am on the short side of nothing
Here I am on the short side of nothing
All alone, all alone
Can’t find my way home

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254 comments
1 jaunte  Jul 27, 2014 8:38:07pm

David Hidalgo:

What guitars do you bring to a typical Los Lobos show these days?
I’ve been using a Fender Custom Shop ‘51 Nocaster Relic lately. When Los Lobos started out back in 1973, it was an all acoustic group. We were on a quest to learn Mexican folk music—the music of our roots, our culture—and little by little we started to incorporate electric instruments. These days I take my goldtop Les Paul and the Nocaster on the road. I feel that Gibson and Fender got solidbody electric guitars right the first time around, and guitars haven’t gotten any better.
guitarplayer.com

2 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 8:54:07pm

One of the truly great bands.

3 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 9:05:05pm

The album this song comes from is a real masterpiece - I just bought the digital version. Used to love it years ago, and forgot how great it was.

4 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 9:10:41pm
5 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 9:14:18pm
6 klys  Jul 27, 2014 9:14:44pm

re: #4 Gus

That cat is much less terrified of heights than I am.

Atop the Bald Mountain fire lookout in the Sierras.

The floor was grate. So were the stairs. I avoided looking down. And shook an awful lot.

7 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 9:22:14pm
8 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 9:33:59pm

Always liked Los Lobos.

9 klys  Jul 27, 2014 9:38:14pm

So I already posted one of the Multnomah pictures, but while we were there and I was waiting for the husband to climb down from the top (see the mentioned fear of heights) I was fooling around with my long-exposures-no-tripod photos at the bottom when the sun came out.

Since the lens-flare proceeded to make good photos impossible, I played with it a little and then went back to the car, but here’s the post-processing on one of them, since I’m playing with photos.

If I could have cut down that damn bush…

10 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 9:43:41pm
11 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 9:47:35pm
12 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 9:49:08pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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They got all worked up after your Gov. Perry memes. Must have struck a nerve.

13 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 9:49:37pm
14 sagehen  Jul 27, 2014 9:50:50pm

re: #6 klys

That cat is much less terrified of heights than I am.

Atop the Bald Mountain fire lookout in the Sierras.

The floor was grate. So were the stairs. I avoided looking down. And shook an awful lot.

Is the Bald Mountain any relation to Mt Baldy?

15 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 9:51:27pm
16 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 9:51:50pm

re: #12 Gus

They got all worked up after your Gov. Perry memes. Must have struck a nerve.

They’ve been especially lathered up since my little altercation with Robert Spencer.

17 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 9:53:52pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

They’ve been especially lathered up since my little altercation with Robert Spencer.

18 klys  Jul 27, 2014 9:54:55pm

re: #14 sagehen

Is the Bald Mountain any relation to Mt Baldy?

I have absolutely no idea.

The husband had just Sherman Pass left to do of the trans-Sierras routes so we did that this trip to start, before finishing our drive of 395 in its currently-signed entirety (we made it to the Canada border on a previous trip, down to Pendleton, OR, and north from where it starts on I-15 to Susanville, CA, so it was just that section left).

As always, the bowling alley in Bishop, CA was lovely.

Drinks were Sad Kitteh approved.

19 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 9:59:32pm
20 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 10:02:03pm

It’s very twisted how they try to smear me by association with someone I renounced years ago, when they’re still promoting his evil crap today.

These people are really fucked up.

21 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 10:03:24pm

It may be time to code up an automatic disclaimer for all posts about Spencer before 2007.

22 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 10:05:15pm
23 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 10:09:03pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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Don’t even recognize anyone in the comments there.

24 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 10:11:07pm

Those nutcases are still watching our Tweets and comments at LGF. Psycho! :D

25 Floral Giraffe  Jul 27, 2014 10:13:24pm

re: #24 Gus

Tiny little people with nothing better to do with their lives.
Sad, really.

26 Charles Johnson  Jul 27, 2014 10:14:10pm

They live for this. It’s a mental illness.

27 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 10:15:00pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

They live for this. It’s a mental illness.

I think it’s like 1 AM where Chen is at. Weird.

28 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 10:15:21pm
29 Teukka  Jul 27, 2014 10:15:51pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

They live for this. It’s a mental illness.

They’re in denial. They think it is people that you that scare people away from them, while in reality it is themselves that put people off.

The reality check they will get once that occurs to them will be brutal.

30 Floral Giraffe  Jul 27, 2014 10:16:55pm

re: #29 Teukka

Sorry, but they’ve done this for so long, that they will never get a reality check, I’m afraid.

31 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 10:17:20pm

Bert and Ernie. Derp.

32 Teukka  Jul 27, 2014 10:24:07pm

re: #30 Floral Giraffe

Sorry, but they’ve done this for so long, that they will never get a reality check, I’m afraid.

Never say never. Their authority figures have lied to them so long, and with ever increasing scale and number of the lies,that they have lost the compass which tells them what lies they can get away with.

Which means that it is only a matter of time before the authority figures tell a lie which not even a hardened wingnut will believe, followed by a spate of lies of the same type, causing a significant number of wingnuts ideological framework to suffer a cascading failure.

I mean, it happened to Charles, so it will happen to others, what matters is the critical mass of lies which sets the landslide off.

Which admittedly can be very large for ERWNJ’s.

33 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 27, 2014 10:25:16pm

Florida man…

34 goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2014 10:27:57pm

I think this might be one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded.

Youtube Video

35 goddamnedfrank  Jul 27, 2014 10:33:46pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

The commercial failure of Hearts and Bones makes me want to go back in time and kick 1983 square in the box.

36 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 10:36:20pm
37 ausador  Jul 27, 2014 10:52:48pm

re: #33 NJDhockeyfan

Florida man…

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Finger on trigger, pistol pointed directly at the cat and HIS OWN HAND!
Sigh…unsafe moron.

Then again if you do the same thing but add cute text to the photo then it is perfectly OK! /

Repost Cat

38 ausador  Jul 27, 2014 10:55:44pm

So as not to be accused of playing favorites amongst our friends in the animal kingdom…

Repost Dog

39 darthstar  Jul 27, 2014 10:58:36pm

Going? Hell, I’ve already got a confirmation number.

40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 27, 2014 11:38:44pm

re: #23 Gus

Don’t even recognize anyone in the comments there.

KT shows up in the comments for the next post after that one. That’s the only name I recognized.

41 ausador  Jul 27, 2014 11:39:41pm

A little public blog war between two competing “Israel Identity” ministries caught my attention and I was thinking of doing a page, but…

The more I looked into them both the more abhorrent their espoused beliefs and associations became. Since I really don’t want to give fanatically delusional bigots any free PR the page idea is now history.

Ughh, I need a shower now. :(

42 Gus  Jul 27, 2014 11:40:40pm
43 ausador  Jul 27, 2014 11:42:55pm

re: #40 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

KT shows up in the comments for the next post after that one. That’s the only name I recognized.

Only one name I recognize/remember in the thread, heck back then I was still just an infrequent lurker here.

44 Gus  Jul 28, 2014 12:10:52am
45 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 28, 2014 12:12:47am

From Boneyard Safari, recent photos of a couple of 60 somethings in great shape:

Restored F-86 Sabre (1953 tail number) in the markings of the USAF Skyblazers aerobatic team.

Red Bull’s dazzlingly finished DC-6B (built in 1949)

46 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 28, 2014 12:18:46am

Me (left) with my (then) two brothers and our mother in 1955. Tomorrow we will be dressed up again to say our final good byes.

47 freetoken  Jul 28, 2014 2:41:19am

MP3 Audio

48 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 28, 2014 3:08:20am

Stuck at level 31 in gameaboutsquares.com

49 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jul 28, 2014 3:34:00am

re: #43 ausador

Only one name I recognize/remember in the thread, heck back then I was still just an infrequent lurker here.

lawhawk and Shiplord Kirel are there too.

50 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 28, 2014 3:34:22am

It may seem like beating a dead horse, but when dealing with deniers it’s important to have as much evidence as possible.

1. The AP journalists who reported seeing the Buk did this before the catastrophe, which means that their eyewitness report is independent.

2. Paris Match published yet another photo of the Buk on that specific truck (white cabin, blue line). The Buk itself is barely visible, but the phone number on the truck could now be read. So they found and interviewed the owner of truck and it turns out that it had been confiscated by … surprise surprise, the DNR thugs.

51 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 28, 2014 3:48:25am

re: #50 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s less beating a dead horse and more doing an autopsy on a dead horse.

52 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 3:56:54am

re: #51 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’s less beating a dead horse and more doing an autopsy on a dead horse.

with a baseball bat

53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 28, 2014 4:00:40am

Russian propaganda channel “LifeNews” finally proves that the Ukrainians did it.

Because psychics. Say. So.

Youtube Video

54 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 4:05:11am

re: #53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Russian propaganda channel “LifeNews” finally proves that the Ukrainians did it.

Because psychics. Say. So.

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Video

I have a Truthiness Detector!

55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 28, 2014 4:05:25am

It’s unbelievable how Russia has degraded in just ~10 years.

56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 4:07:13am

re: #55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s unbelievable how Russia has degraded in just ~10 years.

They are falling back on the old authoritarian program of keeping the masses stupid but well fed while quietly consolidating power among a small elite.

57 Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2014 4:39:52am

Meanwhile, Caribou Barbie has launched her own online subscription-based TV channel.

In a Facebook post late Sunday evening, the former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice-presidential nominee announced the Sarah Palin Channel, an interactive, online network designed as an alternative to mainstream news media.

“This is a news channel that really is a lot more than news,” Palin said in a video introducing the network. “This is a community where we’re going to be able to share ideas and discuss the issues of the day. And we’re going to find solutions.”

The network will cost $9.95 per month or $99.95 annually for subscribers.

Sarah Palin will be laughing all the way to the bank; I have little doubt that there’s plenty of subscribers suckers out there willing to pony up to join the echo chamber.

politico.com

*smh*

58 sattv4u2  Jul 28, 2014 4:45:52am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. I saw a blurb about that in an online trade publication

Like every other channel out there, either over the air, satellite, cable, streaming, you don’t want to watch it,, don’t (I won’t be, btw)

I personally give it a “meh”

59 Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2014 4:52:06am

re: #58 sattv4u2

Yeah. I saw a blurb about that in an online trade publication

Like every other channel out there, either over the air, satellite, cable, streaming, you don’t want to watch it,, don’t (I won’t be, btw)

I personally give it a “meh”

Of course; nonetheless, it sounds like Sarah has come up with a great grift; even better than starting her own political party. She does have her hardcore contingent of true believers, and I’m sure the money will flow in, at least at first it will. Whether it grows from there is anyone’s guess, but I’m pretty sure she won’t be giving FNC too much competition, aside from those who think that FNC is ‘too liberal’.

60 BongCrodny  Jul 28, 2014 5:16:31am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Caribou Barbie has launched her own online subscription-based TV channel.

Sarah Palin will be laughing all the way to the bank; I have little doubt that there’s plenty of subscribers suckers out there willing to pony up to join the echo chamber.

politico.com

*smh*

Tonight on the Sarah Palin Channel, stay tuned for all-new episodes of “The Todd Couple,” “Mother Knows Worse,” and “Ice Road Grifters!”

61 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 5:17:40am

Wingnut talking point of the day:

NO, if you actually read the article this talking point is based on “Right to work” does not increase worker’s pay.

The “higher compensation per capita” was calculated by adding up ALL THE MONEYS (salaries, dividends, capital gains, welfare, social security, all of it) and DIVIDING BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE STATE.

Since they threw the 1% into the mix, of course that’s going to in skew the results upward.

But since we’re talking about Michigan, the auto bailout created a whole bunch of white-collar, professional jobs for high pay since people with those skills are scarce., and also there are still a bunch of Union workers.

The “right-to-work” non-Union poor shmucks still make the lowest incomes in the state.

62 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 5:28:06am
63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2014 5:38:06am

This is beyond sad.
And horrifying.

64 Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2014 5:41:48am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

…snip
Sarah Palin will be laughing all the way to the bank; I have little doubt that there’s plenty of subscribers suckers out there willing to pony up to join the echo chamber.

politico.com

*smh*

Derp Tax.

65 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 6:01:04am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

That’s more expensive than Netflix for all Palin, all the time.

Just how many people would think to pay that for the opportunity for so much word salad crammed in to a content channel like that?

Guess she figures that if Beck, Rush, and other folks can do it, so can she. Just for paying the privilege of hearing/seeing her push her demagogic talking points.

66 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 6:03:29am

I cannot believe something like the Ex-Im bank has the idiots in Congress in an uproar. WTF.

Export-Import Bank faces danger from all sides

The skirmishes on the left and the right underscore the growing political divisions that have emerged over a bank few Americans had even heard of only several weeks ago. With Ex-Im’s charter set to expire at the end of September, its supporters are struggling to narrow the opinion gap between businesses that rely on its financing for sales in risky foreign markets and tea party conservatives who see the bank’s loan, guarantee and insurance programs as a distortion of the free market and a form of corporate welfare.

With the government’s funding also due to expire after Sept. 30, Democrats have said they could raise the stakes by linking the bank’s reauthorization to a stopgap spending measure that would avert another shutdown.

If they shut down the government over this, I will be amazed.

67 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 6:07:07am

re: #66 Lidane

I cannot believe something like the Ex-Im bank has the idiots in Congress in an uproar. WTF.

Export-Import Bank faces danger from all sides

If they shut down the government over this, I will be amazed.

Kochs are all in a lather over Ex-Im Bank so they have their tools in Congress working for them.

68 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 6:07:50am

re: #18 klys

I have absolutely no idea.

The husband had just Sherman Pass left to do of the trans-Sierras routes so we did that this trip to start, before finishing our drive of 395 in its currently-signed entirety (we made it to the Canada border on a previous trip, down to Pendleton, OR, and north from where it starts on I-15 to Susanville, CA, so it was just that section left).

As always, the bowling alley in Bishop, CA was lovely.

Drinks were Sad Kitteh approved.

I think when I was in Bishop about a year ago I stayed in the hotel just in front of that bowling alley. Didn’t know it was a place for eats/drinks, so I went down the street and got BBQ.

69 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 6:08:06am

I don’t know why Kochs want to destroy Ex-Im Bank, but for whatever reason they think Ex-Im Must Die.

70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2014 6:10:37am

Seen on FB this morning.
Apparently, I need to keep a watchful eye out for ferrets…

:D

71 Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2014 6:13:09am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seen on FB this morning.
Apparently, I need to keep a watchful eye out for ferrets…

:D

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72 ericblair  Jul 28, 2014 6:14:08am

re: #69 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t know why Kochs want to destroy Ex-Im Bank, but for whatever reason they think Ex-Im Must Die.

My understanding of the real-world issues is that Koch is big enough not to need Ex-Im’s services, and getting rid of it would kneecap his competitors. Whether it’s because of this or some insane libertoonian fixation I don’t know, but that would be the effect.

I’m thinking this throws another monkey wrench into Big Sane Amoral Bidness, LLC and Crazy, Inc.

73 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 6:16:55am

re: #72 ericblair

My understanding of the real-world issues is that Koch is big enough not to need Ex-Im’s services, and getting rid of it would kneecap his competitors. Whether it’s because of this or some insane libertoonian fixation I don’t know, but that would be the effect.

I’m thinking this throws another monkey wrench into Big Sane Amoral Bidness, LLC and Crazy, Inc.

I keep seeing Koch-fueled sockpuppet accounts on Twitter slamming ExIm, so I assumed that it’s a Koch vendetta of some kind.

74 ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2014 6:19:48am

Morning all. Looks like mild weather for the week and a cool intro into August.

Seeing the Los Lobo comments and music associated with this thread brings up a sad memory.

Back in the long-ago, 1987 or 1988 can’t remember exactly, the guys I played music with had an opportunity that popped up quickly to open for Los Lobos at a small club (Staches) on High Street just a few blocks up from Ohio State. Apparently the show came together quick and the owner of the club was looking for an opener and my cousin, our lead guitar player, knew the guy who booked the shows and got us the chance to do it.

But as with all bands, not everyone was on the same page at all times (if ever!) and our keyboard player said he couldn’t do it because it came up too quick and he hadn’t planned on it. A few days later he quit the band.

Yeah, we were bummed. Not that it would have been a launch to a big career…but it would have been a nice deal and helped us get a bit better known around town. Sigh.

75 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 6:19:54am

re:
#73

Hurr hurr were not Koch sockpuppets were just regular Americans who watch Faux news all days and who love Freedoms and want less government and less taxes regulation!!!111

76 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 28, 2014 6:29:17am

Obdicut/ GDFrank I see you are logged in. A link for you to the page we had some discussion on last evening just before I went to bed for the night. Just another gun discussion

77 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 6:32:34am

re: #72 ericblair

My understanding of the real-world issues is that Koch is big enough not to need Ex-Im’s services, and getting rid of it would kneecap his competitors.

I’d bet money that’s the only reason they’re on a crusade against Ex-Im. So many smaller companies rely on it to help them go overseas. It’s insane to target them for closure. Ex-Im is profitable, FFS. They make billions more than they spend. Why in the world would you target a successful program unless you’re trying to kneecap the competition so you can maybe acquire them?

78 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 6:34:47am

Good morning Lizards.
Sticky and mid-70s in the wake of the thunderstorms that rolled through last night. Got some extra exercise this morning due to leaving my work laptop at home - got to work, saw no laptop on my desk, went right back out the door and home again to get it. (An advantage of having a fairly short walking commute.)

Knees complaining a bit from the bike ride yesterday. They’ve requested getting advance notice for the next ride.

How was everyone else’s weekend?

79 Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2014 6:44:25am

re: #33 NJDhockeyfan

Florida man…

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Even with firearms they are hideously inadequate people.

80 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 6:48:54am

re: #65 lawhawk

That’s more expensive than Netflix for all Palin, all the time.

More expensive than Netflix and nowhere near the entertainment value.

Anyone who signs up for that is a sucker.

81 Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2014 6:51:46am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They are falling back on the old authoritarian program of keeping the masses stupid but well fed while quietly consolidating power among a small elite.

Personally, I think that is the natural human state.

There are anomalies, such as the time we are now in, but overall democracy and freedom are too much work of the spiritual and intellectual nature to be popular. Neither the peasants nor the lords have to do much thinking or sacrificing under an authoritarian system.

People would rather strain their backs or their stomachs than their brains.

82 Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2014 6:55:08am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is beyond sad.
And horrifying.

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83 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 28, 2014 6:57:03am

re: #76 Rightwingconspirator

Obdicut/ GDFrank I see you are logged in. A link for you to the page we had some discussion on last evening just before I went to bed for the night. Just another gun discussion

i’d love for you to actually address that a police officer can run a license plate, but he cannot do that to a gun he sees in someone’s possession without stopping them. Please address this, as you have consistently failed to do so.

84 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 28, 2014 7:00:46am

Some of these #palintvshows are just fantastic.

85 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 7:02:56am

re: #83 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

i’d love for you to actually address that a police officer can run a license plate, but he cannot do that to a gun he sees in someone’s possession without stopping them. Please address this, as you have consistently failed to do so.

There’s a practical issue- the motor vehicle license plate is open and obvious. There’s no need for the law enforcement to stop the vehicle to check it against databases. The stop can happen, after the plate is run with the new crop of plate scanners since states require vehicles to have plates in open and obvious locations.

In order to run an individual’s firearm license, one would have to stop the individual to question them, obtain the license, and then run it (or the gun serial number) to see whether they’re legitimate.

86 b.d.  Jul 28, 2014 7:05:41am

re: #84 Franklin Brewsevelt

hehehehe:

87 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 28, 2014 7:05:53am

re: #85 lawhawk

Yes. That’s exactly my point. We can verify that someone is a legal driver—or at least that the car is legal—very easily. We can’t do that with guns. Therefore, since the right to carry a gun around is one regulated by the state, having police be able to stop people with guns and verify the legality of the gun is completely reasonable.

88 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 7:09:59am

#YouMightBeAConservative if you laugh at French military prowess and ignore the cognitive dissonance when the French were roundly defeated by the Nazis in WWII despite having a military that had more tanks and planes than the Nazis did at the start of the war but think that a few guys with guns would have stopped the Nazis in their tracks.

89 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:11:56am

re: #88 lawhawk

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#YouMightBeAConservative if you laugh at French military prowess and ignore the cognitive dissonance when the French were roundly defeated by the Nazis in WWII despite having a military that had more tanks and planes than the Nazis did at the start of the war but think that a few guys with guns would have stopped the Nazis in their tracks.

Can you condense that to 140 chars or put it in a graphic?

90 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:14:43am

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG????

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:17:02am
92 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:17:37am

Nine months in, “First Look” has had a lot of false labor, but still no baby.

93 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:21:11am

It’s morning and I think my touch pad is going bad.

I don’t have time to go to the Apple Store today.

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?????

and how are you?

94 Mattand  Jul 28, 2014 7:21:26am

re: #87 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yes. That’s exactly my point. We can verify that someone is a legal driver—or at least that the car is legal—very easily. We can’t do that with guns. Therefore, since the right to carry a gun around is one regulated by the state, having police be able to stop people with guns and verify the legality of the gun is completely reasonable.

The only problem with this is the amount of dead cops we’d be seeing, when the Oppressed Gun Nut kills the officer for daring to question him about his gunpowder-powered Holy Relic that Jesus and Washington bestowed on him.

95 BeenHereAwhile  Jul 28, 2014 7:21:39am

re: #55 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s unbelievable how Russia has degraded in just ~10 years.

Time to dust off that old Soviet joke:

“We pretend to work,

and they pretend to pay us.”

96 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 7:23:51am

re: #90 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG????

Why do I suspect that one reason someone suggested this is that if they do “opt out” that means that the following happens:
1) There is not any sort of salary increase, just that part of the existing salary is no longer withheld.
2) The employer is no longer responsible for any FICA amount at all - so an “opt out” is actually of benefit to the employer.

And in addition it looks like no serious thought is given to what happens to any low-income earners who fail to save on their own. They will be pretty much penniless and haven’t been putting into Soc. Sec. and thus would not be getting any benefits back out. I guess their families are expected to support them since otherwise they’d just be “moochers” on the public dime.

Along these lines is my current reading - Jared Diamond’s - _The World Until Yesterday: What Can We Learn From Traditional Societies?_

amazon.com

97 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:25:24am

re: #88 lawhawk

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#YouMightBeAConservative if you laugh at French military prowess and ignore the cognitive dissonance when the French were roundly defeated by the Nazis in WWII despite having a military that had more tanks and planes than the Nazis did at the start of the war but think that a few guys with guns would have stopped the Nazis in their tracks.

The French are a bad example —remember the Maginot line?

98 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:26:51am

re: #96 Feline Fearless Leader

Why do I suspect that one reason someone suggested this is that if they do “opt out” that means that the following happens:
1) There is not any sort of salary increase, just that part of the existing salary is no longer withheld.
2) The employer is no longer responsible for any FICA amount at all - so an “opt out” is actually of benefit to the employer.

And in addition it looks like no serious thought is given to what happens to any low-income earners who fail to save on their own. They will be pretty much penniless and haven’t been putting into Soc. Sec. and thus would not be getting any benefits back out. I guess their families are expected to support them since otherwise they’d just be “moochers” on the public dime.

Along these lines is my current reading - Jared Diamond’s - _The World Until Yesterday: What Can We Learn From Traditional Societies?_

amazon.com

I think they are assuming that “the poor” are all brown people.

Think the illegal drug market and such is bad now? Just wait until a large group of aging americans have NO income.

99 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 7:27:11am

Keith Urban concert sends 22 to hospital, 50 into custody

If this happened at a Jay-Z concert, the right-wing media/cavemen would be calling the crowd a bunch of thugs, welfare queens, ghetto trash, etc.

100 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 7:27:59am

re: #92 Pie-onist Overlord

Nine months in, “First Look” has had a lot of false labor, but still no baby.

That’s a hefty gestation period with very little to show for it. Typically a start up wants to put out as much content as possible because that’s what is needed to satisfy the investors and is necessary to build brand identity and product loyalty.

The Intercept/First Look is doing none of that. They’re ignoring all the typical metrics, and their publication schedule is irregular and one has to wonder just where all the money is going, because it’s not showing on the pages they’ve published.

101 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:30:48am
102 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:30:57am

re: #100 lawhawk

That’s a hefty gestation period with very little to show for it. Typically a start up wants to put out as much content as possible because that’s what is needed to satisfy the investors and is necessary to build brand identity and product loyalty.

The Intercept/First Look is doing none of that. They’re ignoring all the typical metrics, and their publication schedule is irregular and one has to wonder just where all the money is going, because it’s not showing on the pages they’ve published.

Hey, Glenn’s condo won’t redecorate itself!

103 Jayleia  Jul 28, 2014 7:32:30am

re: #95 BeenHereAwhile

That’s not a Soviet joke…that’s a joke I use where I work…

In Capitalist America, joke tells you.

104 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 7:32:59am
105 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 7:35:32am

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

I’m well aware of the Maginot Line. Strategy, tactics, and the material equipment that the French had during WWII shows the folly of claiming that a few Jews with guns could have stopped the Holocaust.

The French fortified their border, they had more of, and had more modern jets and tanks than the Nazis, and yet the French still lost.

The tanks didn’t make a difference.

The planes didn’t make a difference.

All the fortifications didn’t make a difference.

The Nazis still overran France. Yet the right wingers think that if a few Jews had guns, they would have been saved from the Holocaust.

The Nazis also made short order of the Polish as well. Heck, the Nazis pushed hundreds of miles into the Soviet Union and were at the door of Moscow and laid siege to Stalingrad and Leningrad and Kursk. Millions of troops, tens of thousands of tanks and planes and the Soviets just barely hung on to eventually begin the push back to Berlin.

The fact is that of the more than 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, only about 110,000 were actually German Jews. The bulk of those genocide of the Holocaust were Polish and Russian - Jews living in territories overrun by the Nazis. Those were Jews living in countries that had actual armies, navies, and air forces.

That’s the point - entire armies fell to the Nazis, so to think that a few Jews with guns could have stopped the Nazi onslaught is ahistorical.

106 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:35:37am

Interesting, the return on investment on marketing for a Human Trafficking Hotline.

107 b.d.  Jul 28, 2014 7:35:50am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

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From Pierre:

I expect we’ll be in this planning, startup and experimental mode for at least the next few years as we explore how to become integrated into people’s lives in meaningful ways.

So Glenn and crew are nothing but a flash back to the olden days when the rich would employ their own scientists, artists, etc. First Look is nothing more than Pierre’s private menagerie.

108 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:36:35am

re: #105 lawhawk

I’m well aware of the Maginot Line. Strategy, tactics, and the material equipment that the French had during WWII shows the folly of claiming that a few Jews with guns could have stopped the Holocaust.

The French fortified their border, they had more of, and had more modern jets and tanks than the Nazis, and yet the French still lost.

The tanks didn’t make a difference.

The planes didn’t make a difference.

All the fortifications didn’t make a difference.

The Nazis still overran France. Yet the right wingers think that if a few Jews had guns, they would have been saved from the Holocaust.

The Nazis also made short order of the Polish as well. Heck, the Nazis pushed hundreds of miles into the Soviet Union and were at the door of Moscow and laid siege to Stalingrad and Leningrad and Kursk. Millions of troops, tens of thousands of tanks and planes and the Soviets just barely hung on to eventually begin the push back to Berlin.

The fact is that of the more than 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust, only about 110,000 were actually German Jews. The bulk of those genocide of the Holocaust were Polish and Russian - Jews living in territories overrun by the Nazis. Those were Jews living in countries that had actual armies, navies, and air forces.

That’s the point - entire armies fell to the Nazis, so to think that a few Jews with guns could have stopped the Nazi onslaught is ahistorical.

I agree, but the French are not a good example to use. Just sayin’.

109 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 7:37:29am

Someone please grab a few balsa wood desks and send them flying, plz:

Boehner Op-Ed: I Oppose The Law I’m Suing Obama To Implement

Boehner revealed the political awkwardness of the lawsuit by reiterating his opposition to the law he intends to sue the president for delaying administratively.

“I oppose the employer mandate in the president’s health care law. The House of Representatives has voted to delay or eliminate it (and we will do so again if we prevail in court),” he wrote. “But it is the letter of the law that was passed by Congress and signed by President Obama. He simply cannot unilaterally rewrite it.”

Because suing POTUS over a law you don’t want enforced in the first goddamn place makes sense. WTF. If you’re suing him to implement the law then what the fuck were the 50+ repeal attempts for aside from fundraising off the rubes?

110 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:37:30am
111 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 28, 2014 7:38:41am
112 b.d.  Jul 28, 2014 7:39:09am

Are there some new job descriptions out there in the world that I am not aware of?

The hub of that effort will be in San Francisco, where we’ll create an opportunity for technologists to break new ground. We’re working with design thinkers in a variety of ways to develop fresh, user-centered approaches to the questions we’re asking.

from pierre

113 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 7:40:14am

re: #109 Lidane

Someone please grab a few balsa wood desks and send them flying, plz:

Boehner Op-Ed: I Oppose The Law I’m Suing Obama To Implement

Because suing POTUS over a law you don’t want enforced in the first goddamn place makes sense. WTF. If you’re suing him to implement the law then what the fuck were the 50+ repeal attempts for aside from fundraising off the rubes?

Shorter Boehner: “Pay no attention to the gun the base has pointed at my head.”

114 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 7:42:18am

re: #111 NJDhockeyfan

Hopefully the public helps this guy and boosts the reward up from $150. Poor guy.

115 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:43:48am

re: #110 Pie-onist Overlord

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But we have to have as many babies as we can??????

Is the Fox News host advocating Eugenics?

Anything to hit a nerve in the viewer and promote advertising—huh?

116 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 7:44:25am

LIES! OBUMMER NEEDS SNOWDEN!

NSA: Less need now for Snowden deal

“As time goes on, the utility for us of having that conversation becomes less,” NSA Deputy Director Rick Ledgett said during an appearance Saturday at the Aspen Security Forum. “It’s been over a year since he had access to our networks and our information so the need for us to understand that greater level of detail is lesser and lesser.”

Ledgett was the first U.S. official to public discuss the possibility of amnesty or leniency for Snowden, telling “60 Minutes” in an interview aired last December that it was “worth having conversations about” such a deal if it could stem the tide of leaks. The discussion Saturday was framed slightly differently, focusing on obtaining a better idea of what Snowden copied from NSA systems and reportedly gave to journalists.

Ledgett’s remarks signal that lawyers for Snowden might have a weaker bargaining position over time. However, the NSA official also suggested that the damage Snowden did to NSA operations will also diminish with time because terrorist groups and foreign militaries change their communication methods from time to time anyway.

117 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 7:45:03am

Yet another moral guardian clutching their pearls over “The children!.”

118 FemNaziBitch  Jul 28, 2014 7:45:09am

My unresponsive touch pad is driving me crazy(ier).

bbl

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:45:37am

re: #115 FemNaziBitch

But we have to have as many babies as we can??????

Is the Fox News host advocating Eugenics?

Anything to hit a nerve in the viewer and promote advertising—huh?

Fox is thinking of “Brave New World” where they purposely bred “Deltas” and “Epsilons” as menial drones to serve the elite Alphas.

120 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:47:15am

It’s HATE TEH POORS Day on TCOT!

121 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 7:47:16am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

Fox is thinking of “Brave New World” where they purposely bred “Deltas” and “Epsilons” as menial drones to serve the elite Alphas.

And had separate uteri specifically maintained for producing them as well. Pretty much a separation of the lady parts from the woman in order to have easier control.

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2014 7:47:50am
123 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 7:48:07am

re:
#117

When liberals do this the term “nanny-state” is used.

124 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:48:19am

re: #121 Feline Fearless Leader

And had separate uteri specifically maintained for producing them as well. Pretty much a separation of the lady parts from the woman in order to have easier control.

All people were gestated ex-utero IIRC. A woman who actually got pregnant was shunned and despised and exiled to a reservation of “savages”

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:49:34am

BUSINESS, HOW DOES IT FUCKING WORK?

126 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 7:49:41am

So embarrassingly stupid that it doesn’t even warrant a retort:

127 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 7:51:19am

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

BUSINESS, HOW DOES IT FUCKING WORK?

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If by “boom,” they mean the sound make when an economy implodes.

128 Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2014 7:51:44am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seen on FB this morning.
Apparently, I need to keep a watchful eye out for ferrets…

:D

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I can vouch for the Dimensional Rifts I sometimes float into and out of.

129 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 7:52:07am

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord

BUSINESS, HOW DOES IT FUCKING WORK?

Every time TCOT tweet about economics, taxes, or anything even remotely related to business, an angel dies.

130 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:52:27am

re: #127 Targetpractice

If by “boom,” they mean the sound make when an economy implodes.

NO TAXES ON BUSINESS but with a 30% sales tax who is going to buy their stuff?

131 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 7:53:25am

re: #128 Eventual Carrion

I can vouch for the Dimensional Rifts I sometimes float into and out of.

The ones that lead into the Libertarian Zone are especially dangerous.
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132 Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2014 7:54:11am

re: #77 Lidane

I’d bet money that’s the only reason they’re on a crusade against Ex-Im. So many smaller companies rely on it to help them go overseas. It’s insane to target them for closure. Ex-Im is profitable, FFS. They make billions more than they spend. Why in the world would you target a successful program unless you’re trying to kneecap the competition so you can maybe acquire them?

Free (kill) market.

133 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 7:54:24am

Pro tip: If you’re going to hit the RWNJ grifter circuit saying that Obama never went to Columbia, it helps not to admit he went to Columbia.

Wayne Allyn Root Accidentally Admits His Obama Conspiracy Theory Is Bogus

After spending years insisting that Obama was a complete ghost at Columbia — “It’s the story of the Manchurian candidate” — Root somehow continues to also assert that Obama did indeed attend Columbia where he studied how to destroy America from within.

In his ironically titled post, “I Can Put Obama At The Scene Of The Crime,” the conservative commentator says everything Obama knows, he learned at Columbia.

“It’s all according to plan - a plan Obama learned at Columbia,” writes the pundit who earlier suggested the president never attended Columbia. “Everything Obama does, and everything happening to the U.S. economy, all started at Columbia. The entire Obama agenda to overwhelm the system, destroy capitalism and murder the middle class was hatched at Columbia.”

134 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 7:54:58am

re:
#126

OK, but this person was obviously born after 9/11/2001…..

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135 Kilroy01  Jul 28, 2014 7:56:34am

Not on the Twitter machine, so I figure I’ll share here.

PalinTV:
Flipper
My Little Palin: Grifting is Magic
Get Smart
It takes a thief
Mighty Morphin Palin Rangers

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 7:58:43am
137 ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2014 7:59:51am

re: #104 Dr. Matt

[#PalinTVShows The Walking Derp]

I was thinking she could open to Led Zep’s Ramble On for the music.

138 andres  Jul 28, 2014 8:03:16am

re: #116 Lidane

LIES! OBUMMER NEEDS SNOWDEN!

NSA: Less need now for Snowden deal

It’s not a surprise. The value of Snowden’s stash depreciates rather quickly. Even when it was still fresh, many of the documents exposed were pretty old by Internet standards.

Add to that the time the forensics team has had to retrace Snowden’s actions, and it adds to pretty much nothing useful is left in his stash. GG & Co. must also know this, but could care less about Snowden’ts fate.

139 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 28, 2014 8:05:12am

re: #87 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yes. That’s exactly my point. We can verify that someone is a legal driver—or at least that the car is legal—very easily. We can’t do that with guns. Therefore, since the right to carry a gun around is one regulated by the state, having police be able to stop people with guns and verify the legality of the gun is completely reasonable.

Um how do they even know there is a gun? We are talking concealed here right? When/if a law is passed making giving up the probable cause as a part of the CCW license, then we have a proper arrangement.

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:08:59am

re: #138 andres

It’s not a surprise. The value of Snowden’s stash depreciates rather quickly. Even when it was still fresh, many of the documents exposed were pretty old by Internet standards.

Add to that the time the forensics team has had to retrace Snowden’s actions, and it adds to pretty much nothing useful is left in his stash. GG & Co. must also know this, but could care less about Snowden’ts fate.

It’s looking more and more that all he grabbed was a bunch of Powerpoint presentations.

141 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 28, 2014 8:09:36am

re: #139 Rightwingconspirator

Um how do they even know there is a gun? We are talking concealed here right? When/if a law is passed making giving up the probable cause as a part of the CCW license, then we have a proper arrangement.

Either with open-carry, or concealed. It’s often completely possible to see that someone is carrying a concealed weapon, especially if your’e trained to look for it.

Do you think that law would be a good thing, and if not, why not?

142 blueraven  Jul 28, 2014 8:12:50am

Damn

Air strike at outpatient clinic at the main Gaza hospital and another at a Refugee camp.

No details, but casualties streaming in.

143 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 28, 2014 8:15:29am

re: #142 blueraven

Damn

Air strike at outpatient clinic at the main Gaza hospital and another at a Refugee camp.

No details, but casualties streaming in.

Hamas is not allowing cameras in. Are they hiding something? Also Israel says it wasn’t them.

144 Rightwingconspirator  Jul 28, 2014 8:16:13am

re: #141 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Either with open-carry, or concealed. It’s often completely possible to see that someone is carrying a concealed weapon, especially if your’e trained to look for it.

Do you think that law would be a good thing, and if not, why not?

For the purpose of simplicity, let’s stick to CCW at least a moment. How often was stop and frisk coming up with false alarms? I think that was too often IIRC. A bulge in a coat can be many things.

That law depending on some very significant details of how it works on the street day to day could be a very good thing or just an instrument to discourage CCW. How well is that going to work with a black man with a CCW? Strike a fair balance and I’m in. Fail to do that and I’m not.

Open carry? I have mixed feeling leaning to allowing the stop and chat. Again I have a hesitation on how fairly that is actually done.

145 ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2014 8:17:35am

re: #140 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s looking more and more that all he grabbed was a bunch of Powerpoint presentations.

That has been my contention since day one. And everything that has been reported has been about the concepts of how the programs work and very little detail on who they were used on and against. It was one big scare job by Greenwald.

But overall, we no longer receive details and facts in anything anymore. Which is how so many grifters in media work anymore…like Sarah Palin. It’s all so sad.

146 Killgore Trout  Jul 28, 2014 8:18:05am

re: #142 blueraven

Damn

Air strike at outpatient clinic at the main Gaza hospital and another at a Refugee camp.

No details, but casualties streaming in.

IDF is claiming the hospital wasn’t their missile but even if there’s video proof it will still probably be blamed on an Israeli strike. I’m not seeing many updates or corrections on the false kidnapping story or the video of the UN school compound. Looks like another sad day ahead with no end in sight.

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:19:34am

SO FULL OF TEH STUPIDS:

148 blueraven  Jul 28, 2014 8:20:44am

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

Hamas is not allowing cameras in. Are they hiding something? Also Israel says it wasn’t them.

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Of course there will be denials from both sides. The point is, innocent people are being killed by the hundreds. This has to stop.

149 Killgore Trout  Jul 28, 2014 8:21:13am

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

Hamas is not allowing cameras in. Are they hiding something? Also Israel says it wasn’t them.

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Hmm, Israelis say neither strike was theirs. Interesting.

150 ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2014 8:21:33am

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

SO FULL OF TEH STUPIDS:

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Ahh…politics reduced down to two images and a couple cliches.

We are so screwed as a country.

151 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 8:21:58am

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

SO FULL OF TEH STUPIDS:

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More projection than an IMAX theater.

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:23:13am

When I see a picture of Sarah Palin & Ted Cruz together it makes me think:
Who is stupid enough to vote for them?

And then I haz a sad. :(

153 Skip Intro  Jul 28, 2014 8:25:20am

re: #152 Pie-onist Overlord

When I see a picture of Sarah Palin & Ted Cruz together it makes me think:
Who is stupid enough to vote for them?

And then I haz a sad. :(

That gives you a sad?

How about this?

Republicans’ Senate Chances Rise Slightly to 60 Percent

nytimes.com

154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 8:27:22am

re: #152 Pie-onist Overlord

When I see a picture of Sarah Palin & Ted Cruz together it makes me think:
Who is stupid enough to vote for them?

And then I haz a sad. :(

They just want you to think

about abstinence only
about a total absence of health, safety and environmental standards
about who might be pointing a weapon at you the next time you are in public
about how you are going to pay the mortgage, feed, clothe and educate your family on the pittance of a wage that you negotiated on your own with a multi-million dollar corporation…

155 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 8:29:34am

BarbWire Pundit Thinks Obama Is Bringing ISIS Members Into America

As I’ve written repeatedly, the American people-including African-Americans and other Blacks-are being replaced. Obama and the Dems know the onslaught is coming against them this November because of their never-ending attacks against us all. Too many people for the Democrats’ liking have awakened to the truth…as the polls now affirm. Therefore, it’s time to replace the current population in the US to incorporate non-English speakers who will vote for anyone who gives them free stuff; something in which the Obama crime syndicate excels. And don’t think that these are just children. Obama has already brought in hundreds if not thousands of MS-13 gang members and Islamists…including ISIS/ISIL members.

As few seem interested in saving their country-or even themselves-better think about how much ammo you have on hand. The ObamaGestapo won’t go against the criminal element, folks. They’re coming for those who follow the US Constitution and US law. That’s us…

“The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders”-2 Thessalonians 2:9

156 Kilroy01  Jul 28, 2014 8:30:31am

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

Fix it

157 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 8:32:40am

re: #156 Kilroy01

Bull. I’m a liberal and I don’t want anyone to think like me. My hope is for people to think for themselves.

158 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:34:00am

Sarah Palin makes Kim Kardashian look like a rocket physicist.

159 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 8:36:04am

Seriously, “a conservative wants you to think”? Sure, so long as its not about anything other than party orthodoxy.

You think anthropogenic global warming is real? Don’t be a moron, everybody knows it’s a liberal hoax.

You think tax cuts don’t lead to economic growth? Everybody knows Kennedy and Reagan proved they do!

You think that we should provide a path to citizenship? Everybody knows they’re just looking for free stuff!

160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 28, 2014 8:37:28am

re: #156 Kilroy01

Doesn’t wants?

161 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 8:38:11am

re: #158 Pie-onist Overlord

Sarah Palin makes Kim Kardashian look like a rocket physicist.

162 Kilroy01  Jul 28, 2014 8:39:31am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

re: #160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Oh boy.. did I do a job on that.. pardon.. RIF

163 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:39:51am
164 ausador  Jul 28, 2014 8:40:19am

re: #142 blueraven

Damn

Air strike at outpatient clinic at the main Gaza hospital and another at a Refugee camp.

No details, but casualties streaming in.

NBC doesn’t need details, they just go with whatever their first guess is. So far they have already changed the headline on their article twice. From Israel bombed the hospital and refugee camp, to Israel bombed the refugee camp but hit the hospital with a drone strike (“witnessed” by an NBC reporter), to…

Drone Strike? Israel Hits Refugee Camp, Near Main Gaza Hospital.

165 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 8:43:54am

re: #110 Pie-onist Overlord

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That’s a misleading headline and interpretation.

166 blueraven  Jul 28, 2014 8:46:26am

re: #165 b_sharp

That’s a misleading headline and interpretation.

Yeah, Raw Story is good at that.

What he really said was stupid, but…

167 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:46:52am

re: #165 b_sharp

That’s a misleading headline and interpretation.

I went back and read the article. Fox news does not think workers have any right to expect to support their families on whatever the “Jrrb Creeyaters” deign to bestow upon them.

168 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 28, 2014 8:46:58am

Behold my ridiculously photogenic niece and her dog:

169 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 8:47:47am

“Obama’s responsible for this hole I just blew in my own foot!”

170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 8:48:08am

re: #165 b_sharp

That’s a misleading headline and interpretation.

It is a bit misleading, he is make a polemic argument.

But his key argument, that a higher minimum wage would only demotivate people to improve their situation is also totally fucked.

If employees cannot pay a living wage, then government get stuck picking up the slack.

171 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:50:32am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a bit misleading, he is make a polemic argument.

But his key argument, that a higher minimum wage would only demotivate people to improve their situation is also totally fucked.

If employees cannot pay a living wage, then government get stuck picking up the slack.

People would still be motivated to look for better jobs elsewhere because miminum wage jobs suck in many ways, not just the meager pay.

172 Kilroy01  Jul 28, 2014 8:51:15am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

re: #160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fixed.. but just doesn’t have the punch.

173 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 8:52:13am

re:
#169

I thought more uninsured was what they were after.

174 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 8:53:10am

re: #167 Pie-onist Overlord

I went back and read the article. Fox news does not think workers have any right to expect to support their families on whatever the “Jrrb Creeyaters” deign to bestow upon them.

That’s accurate, but that isn’t what the headline and tweet were talking about. I dislike dishonest headlines and with the shit Fox News pulls on a daily basis there is no need for us to stoop to their level and put out misleading headlines & ledes.

175 blueraven  Jul 28, 2014 8:53:31am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a bit misleading, he is make a polemic argument.

But his key argument, that a higher minimum wage would only demotivate people to improve their situation is also totally fucked.

If employees cannot pay a living wage, then government get stuck picking up the slack.

Yes, but that doesn’t make for good clickbait.

176 wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2014 8:53:56am

re: #168 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Behold my ridiculously photogenic niece and her dog:

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What a cutie! You can almost see the freckles jumping up from the arm to the little face.

177 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:54:43am

Welp. I just found out that 2 of my sons have bought guns, and my son-in-law is thinking about it (he’s from the UK so has a natural aversion), and my daughter in Israel says that her in-laws are gun owners.

FWIW they all live in Texas, Alabama & Florida.

178 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 8:55:30am

re: #172 Kilroy01

re: #157 Dr. Matt

re: #160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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Fixed.. but just doesn’t have the punch.

The photo of Code Pink whack jobs does not represent “All Liberals” or even a significant proportion of “Liberals”

179 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 28, 2014 8:55:35am

re: #176 wrenchwench

She was born with a full head of red hair.

180 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 8:55:49am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a bit misleading, he is make a polemic argument.

But his key argument, that a higher minimum wage would only demotivate people to improve their situation is also totally fucked.

If employees cannot pay a living wage, then government get stuck picking up the slack.

As I mentioned to our Pie making Overlord Fox is full of shit at the best of times, but putting out bullshit about Fox is putting out bullshit and it annoys me.

181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 8:56:17am

re: #178 Pie-onist Overlord

The photo of Code Pink whack jobs does not represent “All Liberals” or even a significant proportion of “Liberals”

In their mind it epitomizes them.

182 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 8:57:59am

re: #177 Pie-onist Overlord

Welp. I just found out that 2 of my sons have bought guns, and my son-in-law is thinking about it (he’s from the UK so has a natural aversion), and my daughter in Israel says that her in-laws are gun owners.

FWIW they all live in Texas, Alabama & Florida.

Nothing wrong with owning a gun, as long as it’s secured properly when not in use. What is wrong is the attitude that a gun is a solution to any number of real and/or imaginary problems.

183 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 8:59:33am

re: #182 b_sharp

Nothing wrong with owning a gun, as long as it’s secured properly when not in use. What is wrong is the attitude that a gun is a solution to any number of real and/or imaginary problems magic talisman that will help Good conquer over the Forces of Evil.

184 wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2014 9:01:37am

re: #179 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

She was born with a full head of red hair.

When my brother married a redhead, I asked if they were going to have some redheaded babies (he’d always wanted kids). He laughed and told me she dyed it.

They have boy-girl twins who were born on Leap Day, 1996, with mousey brown hair. The girl dyes part of hers blue.

185 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:02:10am
186 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:08:49am

re: #179 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

She was born with a full head of red hair.

My latest grandson was born like that too.

Flaming red hair.

187 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:09:59am

re: #186 b_sharp

My latest grandson was born like that too.

Flaming red hair.

My daughter’s kids are born with thick black hair (like she was) but after about a year it turns blonde.

188 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:10:08am

re: #184 wrenchwench

When my brother married a redhead, I asked if they were going to have some redheaded babies (he’d always wanted kids). He laughed and told me she dyed it.

They have boy-girl twins who were born on Leap Day, 1996, with mousey brown hair. The girl dyes part of hers blue.

Warning: High Ewww factor.

Always have to check to see if the carpet matches the drapes.

189 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:10:17am

I am a redhead by choice.

190 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2014 9:11:32am

re: #173 Bulworth

re:
#169

I thought more uninsured was what they were after.

It is, but constituents are not exactly thrilled when they have a hard time getting or keeping health insurance, so they start complaining to their elected officials about the mess.

Of course, in true political fashion, said representatives will just find someone else to blame it on. Since Bryant is a conservative wingnut, he naturally blames Obama for everything that’s wrong with Mississippi.

I told my wife after I become naturalized I may run for governor someday. I’m still seriously considering it.

191 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:12:03am

re: #187 Pie-onist Overlord

My daughter’s kids are born with thick black hair (like she was) but after about a year it turns blonde.

My kids were born with thick black hair & they still have black hair.

I wonder why?

My brother was born with light blonde hair and blue eyes, an anomaly in my family. His hair is now light brown.

192 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2014 9:12:15am

re: #188 b_sharp

Why exactly is that high eww factor? Since when is body hair icky?

193 Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2014 9:13:00am

re: #177 Pie-onist Overlord

Welp. I just found out that 2 of my sons have bought guns, and my son-in-law is thinking about it (he’s from the UK so has a natural aversion), and my daughter in Israel says that her in-laws are gun owners.

FWIW they all live in Texas, Alabama & Florida.

NBD. Just browbeat them to maintain a positive redundant barrier between the guns and kids. The Army standard for quarters used in child care were locks on both weapons and ammunition, kept in separate locations.

194 wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2014 9:13:31am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

Why exactly is that high eww factor? Since when is body hair icky?

Even when mismatched.

195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 9:14:59am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

NBD. Just browbeat them to maintain a positive redundant barrier between the guns and kids. The Army standard for quarters used in child care were locks on both weapons and ammunition, kept in separate locations.

How are they supposed to load and lock and mow down intruders when they have to open a separate safe to find a clip?

/

196 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 9:15:13am

*sigh*

Mat Staver Warns That God Will Soon Destroy America, Just Like Pompeii And Sodom And Gomorrah

These people are deranged.

197 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 9:16:30am

re:
#196

I wonder if He will wait until we have a teabagger in the WH.

198 Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2014 9:16:35am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How are they supposed to load and lock and mow down intruders when they have to open a separate safe to find a clip?

/

It’s a magazine, not a clip. You have no basis for an opinion !!!1!

199 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 9:16:56am

re: #196 Lidane

*sigh*

Mat Staver Warns That God Will Soon Destroy America, Just Like Pompeii And Sodom And Gomorrah

These people are deranged.

God is the slowest moving worker I’ve ever known. These nutters have been predicting God’s wrath for centuries and yet the guy has yet to strike us all down.

200 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 28, 2014 9:17:11am

re: #196 Lidane

*sigh*

Mat Staver Warns That God Will Soon Destroy America, Just Like Pompeii And Sodom And Gomorrah

These people are deranged.

there is no arguing with these people, we can only try to limit the amount of damage they can do

201 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:18:04am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

It’s a magazine, not a clip. You have no basis for an opinion !!!1!

A clip is what you load into a magazine.
Would I fail the wingnut gun exam?

202 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 9:19:12am

re: #199 Targetpractice

God is the slowest moving worker I’ve ever known. These nutters have been predicting God’s wrath for centuries and yet the guy has yet to strike us all down.

Seriously. The same people predicting hellfire and brimstone over gay marriage, abortion, and more secularism are the ones who’ve been begging The Almighty to smite the blah guy in the White House since 2008. Nothing has happened yet.

Biggest. Slacker. EVAR.

203 Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2014 9:21:47am

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

A clip is what you load into a magazine.
Would I fail the wingnut gun exam?

They might pass you, if you could name the designer and date of manufacture of the few military antiques that work that way.

204 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2014 9:22:09am

re: #196 Lidane

*sigh*

Mat Staver Warns That God Will Soon Destroy America, Just Like Pompeii And Sodom And Gomorrah

These people are deranged.

So…is He just going to burn us all to the ground or will He give the True Christians a chance to get out first?

205 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 9:25:59am

Ready! Fire! Aim!

The Purge: Mississippi Tea Party Edition

The fact that Mississippi Republicans who supported state Sen. Chris McDaniel (R) still won’t concede the June 24 runoff for the U.S. Senate nomination to incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran is only getting more hilarious.

Now they’re uninviting former Mississippi Tea Party board member Bill Marcy (pictured below) from the organization’s annual meeting tomorrow in Vicksburg, Mississippi, apparently because of his critical Facebook posts about McDaniel.

Please proceed.

206 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 9:26:58am

re:
#205

The teabaggers are meeting in Vicksburg? Send in Grant.

207 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 28, 2014 9:28:50am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

NBD. Just browbeat them to maintain a positive redundant barrier between the guns and kids. The Army standard for quarters used in child care were locks on both weapons and ammunition, kept in separate locations.

Gun safe for guns with a separate locked room for ammo works for me.

208 Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2014 9:29:29am

re: #207 William Barnett-Lewis

Gun safe for guns with a separate locked room for ammo works for me.

Must be an Army thang.

209 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 28, 2014 9:29:49am

re: #196 Lidane

*sigh*

Mat Staver Warns That God Will Soon Destroy America, Just Like Pompeii And Sodom And Gomorrah

These people are deranged.

Well, if God does it will because they are duplicating the sins of Sodom with their mistreatment of foreigners & the poor.

210 Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2014 9:31:01am

re: #205 Lidane

Ready! Fire! Aim!

The Purge: Mississippi Tea Party Edition

Please proceed.

It’s a bit like watching a train wreck: You know it’s only going to end in disaster, but you can’t look away.

211 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 9:36:11am

re: #209 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, if God does it will because they are duplicating the sins of Sodom with their mistreatment of foreigners & the poor.

Everyone knows the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah are related to teh ghey!

212 Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2014 9:39:12am

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

SO FULL OF TEH STUPIDS:

[Embedded content]

How is an image of a bunch people doing exactly the same thing supportive of the notion that conservatives just want people to think?

213 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 9:39:29am

re: #210 Targetpractice

It’s a bit like watching a train wreck: You know it’s only going to end in disaster, but you can’t look away.

The good thing is, I just restocked on popcorn. Even got some popcorn seasoning.

Watching the derp parade over the Mississippi Senate race is endlessly entertaining. Who knew that some blah people voting in an open primary would cause so much hilarity?

214 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2014 9:43:04am
215 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 28, 2014 9:43:38am

re: #156 Kilroy01

Fix it
[Embedded image]

Find a more normal liberal for the upper pic.
Have it say “Think for yourself”
Use current lower pic
Have it say “Don’t you dare think”

216 Bulworth  Jul 28, 2014 9:44:22am

re:
#196

Doesn’t this conflict with Matt Barber’s claim that 2014 will be a big setback for Obama even though Obama is trying to replace all godfearing Amercians with robots from ISIS? /

217 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:45:36am

Welp, this morning I Tweeted this meme
Now I am getting Derp from wingnuts saying HURR HURR!!!! W’ VACAYS WAS ALL ON HIS RANCH, WHERE HE WAS CLEARIN AWAY BRUSH & CHOPPIN WOOD!!!! NOT LIKE OBAMA WHO FLIES ALL AROUND IN ARE AIR FORCE ONE AIRPLANE!!!!!!!

218 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:46:12am

re: #194 wrenchwench

Even when mismatched.

Half the fun is in checking to see if it matches.

219 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:49:06am

HURR HURR!!!!!

220 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:49:59am

re: #196 Lidane

*sigh*

Mat Staver Warns That God Will Soon Destroy America, Just Like Pompeii And Sodom And Gomorrah

These people are deranged.

That’s what happens when religious texts are taught as facts instead of metaphorical lessons to live by.

221 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 9:50:52am

I AM A WHOLE LOT BETTER OFF NOW THAN I WAS DURING THE BUSH YEARS.
From 2000-2008 all I could get were short-term contract jobs, if that even. Then came the GM bailout and JRRBS.

222 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 28, 2014 9:51:40am

re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

[Embedded content]

i was too. Obama has me almost back from where Dubya dumped me.

223 Teukka  Jul 28, 2014 9:52:41am

re: #209 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, if God does it will because they are duplicating the sins of Sodom with their mistreatment of foreigners & the poor.

So what you’re saying is Sodom & Gomorrah 2.0 in the Bible Belt?

224 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:53:01am

Just got a call from a client who needs another static IP from a company that no longer supports the external network, has no paperwork, doesn’t know who to contact, never gave me any info or access to the external system & the client needs the stuff this week.

Maybe I should just make a pile of shit up and watch them dog paddle.

225 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 28, 2014 9:53:23am

re: #223 Teukka

So what you’re saying is Sodom & Gomorrah 2.0 in the Bible Belt?

It would make more sense of the text than their abuse of it.

226 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 28, 2014 9:54:18am

re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

[Embedded content]

She should just go out and find another jrrb.
/

227 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 9:54:27am

re: #217 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m not a fan of the presidential vacation memes. Many of the WH occupants hated being there because it was such a controlled environment. They’d rather go to Camp David or their own homes/ranches/compounds, if that was feasible.

They’re still working even when they’re away from the WH. Photo ops are just that. Photo ops - whether it’s clearing brush or playing golf.

The President gets his PDBs regardless of where in the world he is. He’s still apprised of world events.

But if these nitwits think that Obama’s taken too many vacations, where are their complaints about how Congress has only about 20 days scheduled to work between now and November. By my count, there should be about 60 work days. Even if you give off for all the Jewish Holidays and Labor Day and Columbus Day, you’d still have more than twice the number of days Congress scheduled. Who’s slacking off there?

Oh wait, Congress is busy trying to win reelection, so they’re trying to show that they deserve to be reelected by not working.

228 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:55:01am

re: #223 Teukka

So what you’re saying is Sodom & Gomorrah 2.0 in the Bible Belt?

God is too damned busy playing bridge with Satan, Cthulhu & Shiva to worry about what we do down here.

229 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 9:56:13am

re: #227 lawhawk

I’m not a fan of the presidential vacation memes. Many of the WH occupants hated being there because it was such a controlled environment. They’d rather go to Camp David or their own homes/ranches/compounds, if that was feasible.

They’re still working even when they’re away from the WH. Photo ops are just that. Photo ops - whether it’s clearing brush or playing golf.

The President gets his PDBs regardless of where in the world he is. He’s still apprised of world events.

But if these nitwits think that Obama’s taken too many vacations, where are their complaints about how Congress has only about 20 days scheduled to work between now and November. By my count, there should be about 60 work days. Even if you give off for all the Jewish Holidays and Labor Day and Columbus Day, you’d still have more than twice the number of days Congress scheduled. Who’s slacking off there?

Oh wait, Congress is busy trying to win reelection, so they’re trying to show that they deserve to be reelected by not working.

Sarcasm is your main superpower isn’t it?

230 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 9:58:03am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Badges? We ain’t got no badges. We don’t need no badges! I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ badges!

231 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 28, 2014 9:59:31am

re: #224 b_sharp

Just got a call from a client who needs another static IP from a company that no longer supports the external network, has no paperwork, doesn’t know who to contact, never gave me any info or access to the external system & the client needs the stuff this week.

Maybe I should just make a pile of shit up and watch them dog paddle.

192.168.34.87 Don’t make me do ALL your work for you.

RBS
(You never said he needed a rotatable one)

232 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 10:00:23am

re: #228 b_sharp

God is too damned busy playing bridge with Satan, Cthulhu & Shiva to worry about what we do down here.

Is Cthulhu hosting and supplying the snacks?

233 Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2014 10:00:43am

re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!!

[Embedded content]

Tell her to get a different fucking job then.

234 Lidane  Jul 28, 2014 10:01:52am

Oh the joys of working in what amounts to a call center. I just love having my productivity measured by how many phone calls I make in a day and how many potential callbacks I might set up. Blah.

Oh well. Time for lunch. BRB.

235 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 10:02:45am
236 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 28, 2014 10:04:04am

re: #232 Feline Fearless Leader

Is Cthulhu hosting and supplying the snacks?

A big bowl of souls of the damned, and a chipolte-mayo dipping sauce.

RBS

237 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 10:05:22am

re: #236 RealityBasedSteve

A big bowl of souls of the damned, and a chipolte-mayo dipping sauce.

RBS

Ooooo… Atheist sprinkles!

238 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:05:46am
239 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:06:48am

Here’s the meme I was responding to:

240 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:08:24am
241 Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2014 10:08:37am

Today in History (July 28, 1960): The Republican National convention selects Richard Nixon as candidate

242 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:09:08am

TEH NSA IS PREVENTING US FROM PUBLISHING MORE THAN 1 ARTICLE EVERY 3 WEEKS!!!!!!!!

243 palomino  Jul 28, 2014 10:14:57am

re: #239 Pie-onist Overlord

Here’s the meme I was responding to:

[Embedded content]

Except none of those charges against Obama are true. Either they were actually begun by Bush, or they’re just outright fabrications. When you’ve got nothing except blind hatred, it’s very easy to make shit up and convince yourself it’s true.

244 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:15:46am

My son just shared this on Facebook:

So yesterday I downloaded the Red Alert: Israel app.

An alarm sounds every time a rocket warning is issued. It has been very disruptive and annoying, going off at very inconvenient times. Like while I’m bathing my girls, while driving, trying to read, meeting a friend…

But wait, that’s just an app with an alarm.

IMAGINE THIS WAS FOR REAL?!?!

Well for millions of Israelis it is.

The terror of a rocket landing on your home, or in your child’s bedroom is a reality that we - living outside of Israel - cannot fathom.

But the sad reality is, for all Israelis this has become routine.

Alarm just went off as I’m typing this.

ASHDOD (45 Seconds),
ASHKELON (45 Seconds),
ASHDOD (45 Seconds).

Download this app. It might help bring some perspective.
ANDROID: play.google.com
iPHONE: itunes.apple.com

245 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:17:14am

re: #243 palomino

Except none of those charges against Obama are true. Either they were actually begun by Bush, or they’re just outright fabrications. When you’ve got nothing except blind hatred, it’s very easy to make shit up and convince yourself it’s true.

Well he did bailout the auto industry, but all that did was create a bunch of YOONYUN & white-collar professional jobs. JUST LIKE HITLER!

246 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 28, 2014 10:19:00am

WTFITS
WARNING: TCN may be a white supremacist site.

247 Testy Toad T  Jul 28, 2014 10:21:14am
11th Circuit upholds ‘Docs v. Glocks’ law in First Amendment challenge
A federal appeals court is allowing enforcement of a Florida law that prevents physicians from talking with patients about guns in their homes when it is irrelevant to medical care.

The Atlanta-based 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday vacated an injunction that had prevented the law from taking effect and found in a facial challenge that the law does not violate the First Amendment. The Associated Press and the Daily Report (reg. req.) have stories; How Appealing links to additional coverage and the opinion (PDF).

The law says physicians should not ask whether a patient or patient’s family owns guns, unless the physician has a good-faith belief that the “information is relevant to the patient’s medical care or safety, or the safety of others.” The law also bans irrelevant gun information from being entered into medical records. Violation of the law, dubbed “Docs v. Glocks,” constitutes grounds for disciplinary action, and doctors can be fined or lose their licenses, reports the AP.

Professionals legally prohibited from discussing some topics while doing their jobs.

Brought to you by: freedom.

248 b_sharp  Jul 28, 2014 10:23:25am

re: #231 RealityBasedSteve

192.168.34.87 Don’t make me do ALL your work for you.

RBS
(You never said he needed a rotatable one)

I tried to give her this one:

10.161.245.25

She said it was too long.

249 Gus  Jul 28, 2014 10:24:18am

re: #246 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

Ah. The White Citizens’ Council.

250 lawhawk  Jul 28, 2014 10:27:19am

There’s a whole lot of wishful thinking in that piece, considering Hamas’ statements about long term aspirations. Gazans would certainly benefit from loosening the restrictions on movement, trade, and it would reduce the need to operate smuggling tunnels between Gaza and Egypt (though it would likely persist to avoid tariffs imposed on transactions). A wealthier populace could be less tolerant of the use of force that would devastate what could be built if a true ceasefire were operative. It could have a moderating effect on the radicalization that Hamas uses to stay in power.

What would Israel get out of this? Quiet along its most troublesome border, and it would let Israel devote more resources to other enterprises. However, it runs counter to current Israeli govt thinking about the strategic goals of Hamas and the need to contain that threat.

251 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 28, 2014 10:36:59am

re: #247 Testy Toad T

Professionals legally prohibited from discussing some topics while doing their jobs.

Brought to you by: freedom.

I’m sure the doctor’s ability to talk about Jesus with their patients is still massively protected.
///

252 palomino  Jul 28, 2014 10:59:38am

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

Well he did bailout the auto industry, but all that did was create a bunch of YOONYUN & white-collar professional jobs. JUST LIKE HITLER!

Even with the auto bailout he was continuing a policy supported by his predecessor. As well as Ronald Reagan in the 80s, when Chrysler was bailed out. The notion that there’s some connection to Hitler or a fascist ideology is laughably absurd. Especially in light of bipartisan support for most of what’s labeled Hitler-like about Obama. It’s shit people imagine when their hatred of the president rules out anything else.

253 De Kolta Chair  Jul 28, 2014 11:03:37am

re: #252 palomino

Even with the auto bailout he was continuing a policy supported by his predecessor. As well as Ronald Reagan in the 80s, when Chrysler was bailed out. The notion that there’s some connection to Hitler or a fascist ideology is laughably absurd. Especially in light of bipartisan support for most of what’s labeled Hitler-like about Obama. It’s shit people imagine when their hatred of the president rules out anything else.

The Chrysler bail-out happened in 1979 (ehr, just like Hitler). /

254 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 28, 2014 11:28:42am

re: #248 b_sharp

I tried to give her this one:

10.161.245.25

She said it was too long.

give her an IP v6 one.


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