Twitchy: “Jew-Hating Bitch Pelosi” Says Hamas is a Humanitarian Group (A Lie)

Gus
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Exhibit A

A screenshot:

CNS also reported as Pelosi: Qataris Have Told Me ‘Hamas Is a Humanitarian Organization’ which is more accurate.

What Rep. Nancy Pelosi really said with context:

PELOSI: Well, we all — war is a deadly thing. And I have many Palestinians who live in my district and I am hearing them regularly about how their families are affected who live in the region. It’s a terrible thing. But let me just say that any missile that comes from someplace has a return address. And if Israel is responding to that address, then that’s a shame that the Palestinians are use — are rumored to be using children and families as shields for their missiles.

Should we all try to, first of all, avoid conflict, the Hamas initiated this. So again, this has to be something where we try to have the two-state solution, that we have to support — we have to support Abbas and his role as a leader there. We have to support Iron Dome to protect the Israelis from the missiles. We have to support the Palestinians and what they need. And we have to confer with the Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization, maybe they could use their influence to…

(CROSSTALK)

CROWLEY: The U.S. [thinks they’re a terrorist] organization though, correct, do you?

PELOSI: Mmm-hmm.

CROWLEY: Yes.

PELOSI: We’ve had that discussion.

As you can see Nancy Pelosi did not say Hamas is a “humanitarian organization,” only that the Qataris see them as such. This is also the same perception of Hezbollah being seen as a “humanitarian organization” in many parts of the Middle East. There’s no getting around the reality of such perception whether we agree with them or not. When we negotiate treaties, cease fires, etc, we are given such conditions whether we agree with them or not. The same was true during the Cold War in our negotiations with the Soviets and other communist satellite states.

I happen to not think they are a humanitarian organization and in fact a terrorist group as listed by the State Department. That said, if we are to negotiate with Qatar we can’t get around their own perception regardless of how we think.

It is also important to note that Pelosi states that Hamas is responsible for this latest conflict and relates strong support for Israel.

Factcheck Conclusion

Pants on fire.

Related:

Nancy Pelosi on Israel - Wikipedia

Pelosi reaffirms that “America and Israel share an unbreakable bond: in peace and war; and in prosperity and in hardship”. Pelosi emphasized that “a strong relationship between the United States and Israel has long been supported by both Democrats and Republicans. America’s commitment to the safety and security of the State of Israel is unwavering,…[h]owever, the war in Iraq has made both America and Israel less safe.” Pelosi’s voting record shows consistent support for Israel. Prior to 2006 elections in the Palestinian Authority, she voted for a Congressional initiative disapproving of participation in the elections by Hamas and other organizations defined as terrorist by the legislation. She agrees with the current U.S. stance in support of land-for-peace. She has applauded Israeli “hopeful signs” of offering land, while criticizing Palestinian “threats” of not demonstrating peace in turn. She states, “If the Palestinians agree to coordinate with Israel on the evacuation, establish the rule of law, and demonstrate a capacity to govern, the world may be convinced that finally there is a real partner for peace”.

During the 2006 Lebanon War, Pelosi voted in favor of Resolution 921 on the count that “the seizure of Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah terrorists was an unprovoked attack and Israel has the right, and indeed the obligation, to respond”. She argues that organizations and political bodies in the Mideast like Hamas and Hezbollah “have a greater interest in maintaining a state of hostility with Israel than in improving the lives of the people they claim to represent”. Pelosi asserts that civilians on both sides of the border “have been put at risk by the aggression of Hamas and Hezbollah” in part for their use of “civilians as shields by concealing weapons in civilian areas”.

In September 2008, Pelosi hosted a reception in Washington with Israeli Knesset speaker Dalia Itzik, along with 20 members of Congress, where they toasted the “strong friendship” between Israel and the United States. During the ceremony, Pelosi held up the replica dog tags of the three Israeli soldiers captured by Hezbollah and Hamas in 2006 and stated that she keeps them as a “symbol of the sacrifices made, sacrifices far too great by the people of the state of Israel”.

Pelosi Statement on House Resolution in Support of Israel’s Right to Self-Defense
By: Nancy Pelosi
Date: July 11, 2014
Location: Washington, DC

Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement after the House passed Congressmen Steve Israel and Tom Cole’s bipartisan H.Res. 657 by unanimous consent earlier today:

“With Israel’s citizens once again under assault, our bipartisan resolve to stand by Israel is firm and unwavering. I am pleased the House acted unanimously to reaffirm our support for Israel’s right to defend itself against unprovoked rocket attacks from Hamas.

“No family should be forced to endure constant threats to their lives or the persistent fear of rocket attacks. We call on Hamas to cease their attacks on Israel and stop endangering Palestinian civilians by using them as human shields.

“Congress will continue to monitor this situation closely. Our hearts go out to all the innocent civilians wounded and killed in these latest hostilities on both sides, and we continue to hope and pray for a swift and peaceful conclusion to the conflict.”

Update - Nancy Pelosi: Qataris have told me ‘Hamas is a Human Rights Organization’

Video

UPDATE at 7/29/14 9:36:03 pm by Gus


We now find Twitchy backtracking on their original smear of Nancy Pelosi:

Editors note: The original headline was intended to be a partial quote, partial paraphrase of a tweet from David Horowitz but it was clumsily written and misleading. It has been corrected.

Original Screenshot
Update Screenshot

You’ll note that it still maintains the original title of “‘Jew-hating bitch Pelosi’ says Hamas is a humanitarian group” from the first Twitter posting.

UPDATE at 7/30/14 9:33:41 am by Gus


And from Twitchy:

Note from the managing editors: The original title of this post did not make clear that it was quoting David Horowitz and we apologize. Twitchy does not endorse that kind of language in politics, and in fact, the site has a long record of condemning it on both sides of the aisle.

We regret that this post was published when a managing editor was not available to review and correct it, and again, we apologize.

In addition, the original headline misrepresented what Pelosi said. Here is the relevant portion of the CNN transcript:

PELOSI: Well, we all - war is a deadly thing. And I have many Palestinians who live in my district and I am hearing them regularly about how their families are affected who live in the region. It’s a terrible thing. But let me just say that any missile that comes from someplace has a return address. And if Israel is responding to that address, then that’s a shame that the Palestinians are use - are rumored to be using children and families as shields for their missiles.

Should we all try to, first of all, avoid conflict, the Hamas initiated this. So again, this has to be something where we try to have the two-state solution, that we have to support - we have to support Abbas and his role as a leader there. We have to support Iron Dome to protect the Israelis from the missiles. We have to support the Palestinians and what they need. And we have to confer with the Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization, maybe they could use their influence to -

(CROSSTALK)

CROWLEY: The U.S. (INAUDIBLE) organization though, correct, to you? [Twitchy’s transcript of this portion: “The U.S. thinks they’re a terrorist organization though, correct? Do you?”]

PELOSI: Mmm-hmm.

CROWLEY: Yes.

PELOSI: We’ve had that discussion.

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313 comments
1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2014 8:28:20pm

I get so weary with all of these malicious and miserable people.

2 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 8:35:23pm

They’re not the least bit concerned about truth or credibility - it really is just sheer malice at this point.

3 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 8:45:33pm

Wow.

“Jew-Hating Bitch Pelosi” is ACTUALLY THEIR HEADLINE.

4 klys  Jul 29, 2014 8:46:16pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Wow.

“Jew-Hating Bitch Pelosi” is ACTUALLY THEIR HEADLINE.

That’s how they convince everyone they’re doing actual journalism, right?

/sigh

5 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 8:50:51pm

I added a screenshot to the post, because they may change it. Un-freaking-real.

6 teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2014 8:51:04pm

Conservatives have devolved into hateful, fearful people, with no interest in bridging any divide whatsoever. There are probably thousands of conservatives in the United States that honestly believe the only way to smooth out our political and social differences is through … ANOTHER CIVIL WAR.

I feel sorry for those kinds of people, not enough love in their lives.

7 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 8:53:30pm

Unreal. Especially if you read her statement on the “House Resolution in Support of Israel’s Right to Self-Defense.” Obviously it won’t meet the “kill them all” mentality of RWNJs but that’s clearly not the words of a person that “hates Jews.”

8 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 8:54:52pm

Also edited the headline - this should be front and center. Unbelievable.

9 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 8:55:07pm
10 Lidane  Jul 29, 2014 8:55:51pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

They’re not the least bit concerned about truth or credibility - it really is just sheer malice at this point.

Par for the course on the right these days.

The American right in 2014 has nothing to offer in terms of truth or credibility. They’re all about malice. It’s been that way for years, but it got turned up to eleventy in 2008.

11 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 8:56:08pm

Wow, this really is breaking new ground in hatred.

12 Floral Giraffe  Jul 29, 2014 8:58:42pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

They’re not the least bit concerned about truth or credibility - it really is just sheer malice at this point.

And not looking like a winning strategy!

13 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:06:24pm

Added a video clip.

14 teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2014 9:06:44pm

The right wing in the United States are becoming more and more brazen in their hatred for the “other” by the hour it seems.

15 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:09:23pm

CROWLEY: The U.S. [thinks they’re a terrorist] organization though, correct, do you?

PELOSI: Mmm-hmm.

CROWLEY: Yes.

PELOSI: We’ve had that discussion.

16 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:10:14pm

Prior to 2006 elections in the Palestinian Authority, she voted for a Congressional initiative disapproving of participation in the elections by Hamas and other organizations defined as terrorist by the legislation.

17 Shazam  Jul 29, 2014 9:10:58pm

That part of the headline is in quotes, so where the eff are they quoting from? Each other?

18 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 9:12:13pm

re: #17 Shazam

That part of the headline is in quotes, so where the eff are they quoting from? Each other?

It’s a quote from a tweet by David Horowitz:

19 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 29, 2014 9:12:45pm

#1 rule of internet current events sanity:

Whatever Twitchy says, the exact opposite is true.

20 CuriousLurker  Jul 29, 2014 9:13:51pm

Wow, just when you think they can’t sink any lower…

The concern for Israel also so… so… calculated, cynical. manipulative, opportunistic. I don’t believe for a minute that these bottom feeders give a damn about Israel beyond how they can use it to their political advantage.

Gus, here’s a WebCite cache also: webcitation.org

21 SteelPH  Jul 29, 2014 9:19:00pm

re: #20 CuriousLurker

Wow, just when you think they can’t sink any lower…

The concern for Israel also so… so… calculated, cynical. manipulative, opportunistic. I don’t believe for a minute that these bottom feeders give a damn about Israel beyond how they can use it to their political advantage.

Gus, here’s a WebCite cache also: webcitation.org

That and to fulfill their wacko doomsday prophecies.

22 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:23:29pm

Sure enough. From Twitchy…

Update

Editors note: The original headline was intended to be a partial quote, partial paraphrase of a tweet from David Horowitz but it was clumsily written and misleading. It has been corrected.

So it went from…

‘Jew-hating bitch Pelosi’ says Hamas is a humanitarian group

to…

Horowitz: Qataris tell ‘Jew-hating bitch Pelosi’ Hamas is humanitarian; Update

23 Ogami Itto  Jul 29, 2014 9:24:26pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Horowitz also accuses Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz of being “Hollywood Jew-haters.”

Jesus, that guy’s twitter stream is rancid.

24 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:26:24pm

Meanwhile Pelosi is hated at Mondoweiss and Electronic Intifada. You can’t win with the fringe.

25 Interesting Times  Jul 29, 2014 9:27:19pm

re: #22 Gus

Sure enough. From Twitchy…

Update

Editors note: The original headline was intended to be a partial quote, partial paraphrase of a tweet from David Horowitz but it was clumsily written and misleading made us look so stupid and hateful that even we thought it was a bad idea. It has been corrected turd-polished.

26 CuriousLurker  Jul 29, 2014 9:30:14pm

re: #21 SteelPH

That and to fulfill their wacko doomsday prophecies.

Exactly. Then they can be “perfected” by becoming Christian.

27 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:31:18pm

Right. Misquote.

Original.

“Update”

28 CuriousLurker  Jul 29, 2014 9:34:18pm

re: #27 Gus

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Looks like I did the WebCite cache just in time. They can claim screenshots are photoshopped, but that won’t work with something cached by a third party.

29 Ogami Itto  Jul 29, 2014 9:34:28pm

re: #27 Gus

I love that in their minds a smear or misquote is when you accurately point out what they say.

Jesus.

30 blueraven  Jul 29, 2014 9:35:05pm

The first tweet on that twitchy page

Seriously? Has the Left demonized their opposition so much they have forgotten what true evil is?

o_O

31 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:39:08pm

Twitter also maintains the original title.

32 Interesting Times  Jul 29, 2014 9:40:33pm

re: #27 Gus

Is that someone from the stalker blog?

33 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:42:04pm

re: #32 Interesting Times

Is that someone from the stalker blog?

Doesn’t look like it. Checked his followers. Some new guy.

35 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:50:35pm

Bozo.

36 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 29, 2014 9:52:16pm

I have reluctantly come to believe that the greatest mistake in the history of America was forcing the Confederate states back into the Union. No, we would not be free of the the racism, unreasoning hatred, bigotry and victimhood that characterized them, there’d just be a lot less of it and we could control much of it at the border.

37 Ogami Itto  Jul 29, 2014 9:54:23pm

re: #35 Gus

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Bozo.

That’s probably why she’s a Republican: she wishes she were a white male.

38 TedStriker  Jul 29, 2014 9:54:51pm

re: #36 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I have reluctantly come to believe that the greatest mistake in the history of America was forcing the Confederate states back into the Union. No, we would not be free of the the racism, unreasoning hatred, bigotry and victimhood that characterized them, there’d just be a lot less of it and we could control much of it at the border.

As a Tennessean, I respectfully say, “uhhh, no”.

39 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 9:56:18pm

Blockheads.

40 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 29, 2014 9:57:22pm

“Twitchy” is apt. They sound like meth heads.

41 subterraneanhomesickalien  Jul 29, 2014 9:58:16pm

We make fun of John Boehner for his affection for the tanning bed, and they call Nancy Pelosi a jew hating bitch.

Its totes equal man.

Both sides do it man!!!!!/////

Wheres that fucking grifter Mark McKinnon and his center right horse shit middle position lemmings at, to remind us all of this?

42 Interesting Times  Jul 29, 2014 9:58:27pm

re: #40 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Twitchy” is apt. They sound like meth heads.

Meth heads would be more pleasant company.

43 TedStriker  Jul 29, 2014 9:58:34pm

re: #40 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Twitchy” is apt. They sound like meth heads.

Mainlining on hate.

44 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 29, 2014 10:01:50pm

Gus,

Man, these guys have such, “class.”

Oh and “Obviously” Pelosi has to be “antisemitic” if she thinks that Israel has a right to defend itself. Not to mention that fact that they can’t back up the claim that she doesn’t think Hamas is a humanitarian group, just that someone else told her that.

45 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:03:05pm
46 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 29, 2014 10:05:45pm

re: #31 Gus

Twitter also maintains the original title.

[Embedded image]

They can’t stop lying can they? Facts are such inconvenient things for wingnuts!

47 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 10:07:26pm
48 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 29, 2014 10:08:02pm

re: #45 Gus

49 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 10:08:25pm
50 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 10:08:55pm

Looks like they’re going to try to claim the post is misleading. Good luck with that.

51 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 29, 2014 10:15:24pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

I feel so uninformed. When did “Jew-hating bitch” become a compliment?

52 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:17:23pm
53 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:19:51pm
54 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 10:21:16pm

Hey, everybody! “SooperMexican” is watching our comments. Say hi!

55 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 29, 2014 10:23:38pm

Hi SooperMexican. Hope you get well soon.

56 Charles Johnson  Jul 29, 2014 10:25:44pm

Oh yeah. The hate’s really starting to flow now on Twitter. They really don’t like it when their rocks are turned over.

57 CuriousLurker  Jul 29, 2014 10:26:45pm

re: #53 Gus

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Guess he’s not that busy, huh?

I need to go get some shut-eye, so I’ll leave you guys to deal with the confederacy of dunces.

58 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:27:29pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker

Guess he’s not that busy, huh?

I need to go get some shut-eye, so I’ll leave you guys to deal with the confederacy of dunces.

Wait. I’m supposed to post his Tweet? //

59 Mentis Fugit  Jul 29, 2014 10:28:10pm

Pelosi is too professional to actually roll her eyes when she says,

And we have to confer with the Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization, maybe they could use their influence to…

but “who have told me over and over again” does a pretty good job of conveying a not dissimilar impression.

You have to be mentally defective to parse every word literally and in isolation. Oh, wait…

60 Kilroy01  Jul 29, 2014 10:28:30pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

This is such red meat. Hell, a dream comment to the Pelosi haters.

It isn’t reality, but fact checking could ruin “it”.

61 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:29:54pm

Struck a nerve with this one. Adding to the angst is my firm support of Israel (with reservations on this latest IDF op) and strong opposition to Hamas. They get confused.

62 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 29, 2014 10:31:57pm

re: #60 Kilroy01

Perhaps one of the most distinguishing aspects of conservatism is its adherents passion for making shit up and then getting angry about it.

63 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:32:46pm

Twitchy says, “Jew-Hating Bitch Pelosi,” but hey man we’re just quoting Horowitz and we all pretty much agree and most of us are spreading the lie that Pelosi said “Hamas is a humanitarian group.” Right. //

64 Kilroy01  Jul 29, 2014 10:33:47pm

re: #62 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Then having some kind of vested interest in repeating the lie. Even when it has been debunked over and over and over and….

65 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:34:21pm
66 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:36:18pm

Hey man, we’re just asking questions quoting Horowitz. //

67 Floral Giraffe  Jul 29, 2014 10:41:53pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Hey, everybody! “SooperMexican” is watching our comments. Say hi!

I think there are probably untold masses of trolls foaming at the mouth watching these comments!
*waves to haters*

68 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:42:16pm

Also note…

‘Jew-hating bitch Pelosi’ says Hamas is a humanitarian group

The “Jew-hating bitch” part is the quote from psycho Horowitz and the “says Hamas is a humanitarian group” is a direct quote or big lie.

Carry on.

69 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:44:19pm
70 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:45:40pm

71 Kragar  Jul 29, 2014 10:45:50pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Hey, everybody! “SooperMexican” is watching our comments. Say hi!

Well whoopedy-doo!

Does he want a cookie?

72 sagehen  Jul 29, 2014 10:47:27pm

Colbert quote of the night:

“Remember, she’s at sarahpalinchannel.com, not thesarahpalinchannel.com, because we bought that one today. And it’s free.”

73 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:50:15pm

No trolling on my end. I am disappoint.

74 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 29, 2014 10:51:45pm

Horowitz was a major communist agitator in the 60s. Today he is a major right wing agitator.
Reminds me of an old Russian proverb: “Whether the water is salt or fresh, shit floats.”

75 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 10:52:42pm

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel

Horowitz was a major communist agitator in the 60s. Today he is a major right wing agitator.
Reminds me of an old Russian proverb: “Whether the water is salt or fresh, shit floats.”

Yep. Still a Bolshevik.

76 GeneJockey  Jul 29, 2014 10:54:08pm

re: #67 Floral Giraffe

I think there are probably untold masses of trolls foaming at the mouth watching these comments!
*waves to haters*

Tell ‘em to go fuck themselves for me.

77 klys  Jul 29, 2014 10:57:28pm

Having lived in my happy bubble of *insert your desired description here*, I had no idea who David Horowitz was. So, like anybody does these days, I turned to Wikipedia.

According to Wikipedia, he is considered a political pundit. Even within the somewhat …flexible… standards of reality that esteemed group works with, his initial tweet is …below the bar?

78 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 11:01:51pm

re: #77 klys

Having lived in my happy bubble of *insert your desired description here*, I had no idea who David Horowitz was. So, like anybody does these days, I turned to Wikipedia.

According to Wikipedia, he is considered a political pundit. Even within the somewhat …flexible… standards of reality that esteemed group works with, his initial tweet is …below the bar?

He’s nutz.

79 GeneJockey  Jul 29, 2014 11:03:10pm

I’m struggling to understand how putting it in quotes makes it better.

“Goat-blowing Twitchy Team”

Goat-blowing Twitchy Team.

Seems pretty much the same.

80 klys  Jul 29, 2014 11:03:28pm

re: #78 Gus

He’s nutz.

That was sort of my conclusion. I noticed the whole “academia is evil” bit, and the “Islam is the worstest” and started inching away.

81 klys  Jul 29, 2014 11:04:08pm

re: #79 GeneJockey

I’m struggling to understand how putting it in quotes makes it better.

“Goat-blowing Twitchy Team”

Goat-blowing Twitchy Team.

Seems pretty much the same.

Well, if we dropped the hyphen I could see that mattering…

82 GeneJockey  Jul 29, 2014 11:05:24pm

re: #81 klys

Well, if we dropped the hyphen I could see that mattering…

Replacing the hyphen with a comma would really change it.

83 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 11:15:10pm
84 Kragar  Jul 29, 2014 11:18:03pm
85 Gus  Jul 29, 2014 11:45:38pm
86 teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2014 11:50:18pm

Some piddly rock n roll for this ghastly thread.

Youtube Video

87 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 1:57:17am

re: #69 Gus

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Now, there may be some decent commies out there. Stalinists (like the one Horowitz used to be)? None.

88 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 1:58:48am

Remember, we are in service to Higher Truths, and these Truths include the fact that Obama and all Liberals hate Israel and love Islamist terrorists.

/

89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 1:59:58am

The Bible says there is no God! FACT! Ps. 14:1.

90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 2:03:17am

The Koran does, too, Sura 9:129: THERE IS NO GOD

(but Allah)

91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 2:04:41am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Koran does, too, Sura 9:129: THERE IS NO GOD

(but Allah)

Well, that proves it!

92 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 2:09:50am

Michelle Malkin must have majored in Creative Citation.

93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 2:10:33am

I just went and poked around the LGF stalker site. So Sergey is a Stalinist and I am a racist.

GOOD TO KNOW!!! Since there is no God, our sins will go unpunished.

94 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 2:12:34am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I just went and poked around the LGF stalker site. So Sergey is a Stalinist and I am a racist.

GOOD TO KNOW!!! Since there is no God, our sins will go unpunished.

Yup. Hail Satalin!

95 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 2:16:27am

In my case, it was also an isolated post devoid of context proving that I am a racist and am unfairly accusing Sarah Palin of same.

96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 2:20:06am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In my case, it was also an isolated post devoid of context proving that I am a racist and am unfairly accusing Sarah Palin of same.

Well, there is a plus side to that. If you’d had any inner doubts about that & then they called you a racist, now you know for sure you absolutely aren’t one. Mathematically proven :)

97 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 2:22:51am
98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 2:31:35am

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, there is a plus side to that. If you’d had any inner doubts about that & then they called you a racist, now you know for sure you absolutely aren’t one. Mathematically proven :)

When I was a in the 10th grade, a girl rejected rejected a good friend of mine for someone else. I wrote her a long letter listing objectively why my buddy Bill was the better boyfriend.

That is about the same level of immature obsession I see from the rejectees at the stalker site.

99 SteelPH  Jul 30, 2014 2:36:32am

I’m a furry. I can only imagine the geysers of hatred for me from all sides based on this one little fact alone.
//

100 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 30, 2014 3:07:29am

re: #96 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The amount of mental gymnastics necessary to conclude you’re a Stalinist is pretty amazing.

Actually, it’s probably easy: Ignore everything you actually say, note that you’re from Russia, call you Stalinist because they have no clue what the fuck they’re talking about.

101 freetoken  Jul 30, 2014 3:09:19am

MP3 Audio

102 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 3:15:01am

re: #100 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Nah, they know I’m an anti-Stalinist, they just enjoy lying.

103 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 4:26:27am

re: #100 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The amount of mental gymnastics necessary to conclude you’re a Stalinist is pretty amazing.

Actually, it’s probably easy: Ignore everything you actually say, note that you’re from Russia, call you Stalinist because they have no clue what the fuck they’re talking about.

“Stalinist” “Nazi” “Communist” Socialist” “Democrat” “Racist” “Gay” are just random words that wingnuts use interchangeably.

I was once called a “Lesbian UAW Shop Stewardess” I said “I can’t imagine why you would think I’d be insulted by that”

104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 4:33:03am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

When in doubt, go with “ur gay”. (Wingnut discourse rule #1.)

105 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 4:37:22am
106 makeitstop  Jul 30, 2014 5:00:34am

My Facebook feed is strangely devoid of this story this morning. Since my FB wingnuts never, ever pass up an opportunity to beat up on Pelosi, I can only assume they haven’t seen it yet.

107 Frenchy  Jul 30, 2014 5:02:54am

So according to @SooperDouche up there, the original headline was actually good because they were “just quoting” someone even though they gave no indication who they were quoting?

And the new headline is so much better? Is the story about the Pelosi interview, or is it about the fact that Horowitz tweeted some hateful and dishonest nonsense?

I’m sure they weren’t just looking for the flimsiest of reasons to inflame and incite by putting “Jew-hating Bitch Pelosi” in the headline.

108 A Mom Anon  Jul 30, 2014 5:04:47am

Normal, happy and well adjusted humans don’t do this crap. No need for it. Demonizing some “other” pulls apart communities, families and friendships. I worry about that more than I do most things. That’s the basis of any healthy and functional society, strong families and people forming strong communities. THAT is what will be our undoing, not some faceless “terrorist” or some imaginary threat hiding under the bed. They are scared of a caricature of the President and his family, of Liberals. It’s stuff they made up and the lies, each time they make the rounds, pick up more ridiculous bullshit. A garbage snowball.

I find it sad that no one loves any of these people enough to have intervened before the hatred caused brain rot.

109 Romantic Heretic  Jul 30, 2014 5:18:46am

re: #40 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“Twitchy” is apt. They sound like meth heads.

They are stoned out of their minds on fear, anger and hate, so that’s a good analogy.

110 Romantic Heretic  Jul 30, 2014 5:22:26am

re: #83 Gus

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I am so jealous of the man.

111 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 5:25:59am

Stay classy, TwitchyTeam

112 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 5:27:06am

re:
#107

“Hey we’re just quoting someone else” is the new “Hey we’re just asking questions”.

113 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 5:28:06am

Why is Twitchy “verified” by Twitter?

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 5:36:34am
115 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 5:37:04am
116 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 5:37:32am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

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Hey Glenn, can I borrow that projector you’re using?

117 makeitstop  Jul 30, 2014 5:38:17am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

That endless genre of privileged, self-pitying journalists writing “people are mean to me on the internet” whines

For a supposedly smart guy, he’s completely devoid of any self-awareness whatsoever.

118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 5:39:16am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

“Stalinist” “Nazi” “Communist” Socialist” “Democrat” “Racist” “Gay” are just random words that wingnuts use interchangeably.

I was once called a “Lesbian UAW Shop Stewardess” I said “I can’t imagine why you would think I’d be insulted by that”

This will be the ultimate undoing of the TPGOP: politics is supposed to be about winning people over to your point of view, not just branding everyone who disagrees a loser, moocher, stalinist, fascist, communist, terrorist sympathizer, etc…

119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 5:41:41am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I forgot to add “feminazi” to the list

120 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 5:47:01am

Are there meds available for the “twitchy” condition?

I sure hope so as so many seem to be suffering. That’s no way to go through life.

By the way…good morning!

And oh yeah, I see Glenn Greenwald is full of self reflection about self absorption. He may be in his wheelhouse on that one. No one is more aware about Glenn then Glenn.

121 b.d.  Jul 30, 2014 5:49:27am

re: #115 Pie-onist Overlord

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Glenn Greenwald calling someone else self absorbed. I guess I can beat the rush and go ahead and turn my computer off for the day, the game is already over.

122 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 5:52:16am

Just a heads up for Charles — you might have some idiots ask you about this today:

Charles Johnson Vows To Take Legal Action Against A Mississippi Reporter

Conservative journalist Charles C. Johnson said Tuesday afternoon that he intends to sue a Mississippi reporter for defamation amid the ongoing fallout from the GOP runoff in the U.S. Senate race.

The audacious threat came after Sam R. Hall, a reporter for the Clarion-Ledger newspaper, published an article earlier in the day scrutinizing Johnson, who has offered a $100 bounty to his readers for any instances of plagiarism found on BuzzFeed.

Johnson offered the reward after the former BuzzFeed viral politics editor Benny Johnson was fired over allegations of serial plagiarism late last week.

123 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 30, 2014 5:58:09am

re: #106 makeitstop

My Facebook feed is strangely devoid of this story this morning. Since my FB wingnuts never, ever pass up an opportunity to beat up on Pelosi, I can only assume they haven’t seen it yet.

After I posted a bet for $100 that Bowe Bergdahl would be exonerated of desertion allegations—not yet taken by anyone, btw—my activity stream’s “conservative” crap has slowed down quite a bit. That and I now have a cadre of about a dozen progressive FB friends who are unafraid to jump in and engage :)

124 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 30, 2014 6:00:03am

re: #103 Pie-onist Overlord

A poo-flinging monkey gives more thought to its selection of which poo to fling than these people do in choosing which pejoratives to fling. That many of their rants string together combinations that are ideologically impossible bothers them not - they don’t know what the words mean in the first place.

125 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 6:07:33am

I can’t believe that something as simple and obvious as infrastructure gets the Republicans tied up in knots.

This is a completely dysfunctional party that’s incapable of even the most basic forms of governance.

126 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 6:08:22am

Weeks ago: “The economy contracted last quarter! Just more proof that Obama is holding us back!”

Today:

*crickets*

127 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 6:10:29am

re:
#126

This is obviously a distraction from Benghazi The Border Crisis The Missing IRS Emails Ukraine.

128 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 6:11:03am

re: #125 Lidane

I can’t believe that something as simple and obvious as infrastructure gets the Republicans tied up in knots.

This is a completely dysfunctional party that’s incapable of even the most basic forms of governance.

It shouldn’t be surprising Lidane. All you need to do is keep in mind that the ultimate dream of a conservative is to have the Federal Government fund the military/defense of the country and everything else would be up to the states.

129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 6:12:03am

re: #125 Lidane

I can’t believe that something as simple and obvious as infrastructure gets the Republicans tied up in knots.

This is a completely dysfunctional party that’s incapable of even the most basic forms of governance.

Purely tactical thinking: delaying or killing the bill will cause people to lose their jobs, allowing the GOP to point at how Obama is wrecking the economy.

130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 6:13:04am

re: #128 ObserverArt

It shouldn’t be surprising Lidane. All you need to do is keep in mind that the ultimate dream of a conservative is to have the Federal Government fund the military/defense of the country and everything else would be up to the statesprivatized.

131 makeitstop  Jul 30, 2014 6:15:11am

re: #128 ObserverArt

It shouldn’t be surprising Lidane. All you need to do is keep in mind that the ultimate dream of a conservative is to have the Federal Government fund the military/defense of the country and everything else would be up to the states.

Or better yet - fully privatized and generating revenue for their campaign donors.

132 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 6:18:39am

Good morning Lizards. Remarkably mild morning outside for late July here in Philadelphia. Just hitting 70F right now and the humidity is tolerable.

Construction site across the street is starting to dig a little deeper. They have piles installed and timber shoring around about half the perimeter right now, and are working on the completing the circuit. Some more concrete foundation has turned up and been jack hammered to pieces. One corner turned up a brick foundation as well.

Looking at the dig face it looks like so far they’re mainly digging in compacted earth - with a thin layer of gravel and about 4-6” of asphalt at the top from the former parking lot. It’s probably not that far down to bedrock though I expect.

133 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 6:19:35am

re: #131 makeitstop

Or better yet - fully privatized and generating revenue for their campaign donors.

With an icing of block grants or other corporate welfare from the federal government.

134 GunstarGreen  Jul 30, 2014 6:19:40am

re: #126 Targetpractice

Weeks ago: “The economy contracted last quarter! Just more proof that Obama is holding us back!”

Today:

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*crickets*

See also:

EVERY TIME OBLAMMER OPENS HIS MOUTH, THE DOW TANKS FURTHER!!1!111!!11

*DOW rises to its highest point in recorded history and then keeps right on going*

*crickets*

I have to share air with these parasites.

135 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 6:23:46am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

re: #131 makeitstop

Or better yet - fully privatized and generating revenue for their campaign donors.

Well, yeah there is that!

136 Mattand  Jul 30, 2014 6:31:13am

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

Good morning Lizards. Remarkably mild morning outside for late July here in Philadelphia. Just hitting 70F right now and the humidity is tolerable.

Construction site across the street is starting to dig a little deeper. They have piles installed and timber shoring around about half the perimeter right now, and are working on the completing the circuit. Some more concrete foundation has turned up and been jack hammered to pieces. One corner turned up a brick foundation as well.

Looking at the dig face it looks like so far they’re mainly digging in compacted earth - with a thin layer of gravel and about 4-6” of asphalt at the top from the former parking lot. It’s probably not that far down to bedrock though I expect.

I’m guessing that’s the new Comcast skyscraper?

137 Teukka  Jul 30, 2014 6:36:06am
Aircraft violates Swedish airspace

A foreign flight violated Swedish airspace on July 18, according to a classified report from the Armed Forces, reports the Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet and the radio channel P4 Kalmar.
The plane was a government aircraft, an airplane that is non-civilian. The plane came from the east, straight across Gotland before it veered off to the south. Somewhat later crossed the Swedish airspace outside Oland. Altogether found the aircraft was in Swedish airspace for around 15 min and 210 km into it.
The plane had requested permission to pass over Visby, via Jönköping and then swerve to the south, but was denied passage by the Swedish traffic control, yet ignored the denial.
— Aftonbladet: Kränkte svenskt luftrum över Gotland

My $.02 is that is another Russian Air Force Nuclear bombing training run, and an obvious provocation this soon after the release of the Swedish hostage from pro-russian rebels.
We had a similar airspace violation a year ago, this time the nuke training targets were in Stockholm County.

Can’t anyone tell Putin and his Kremlin Crew that if they keep waving their dicks around, someone might bobbit?

138 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 6:50:49am

If you want proof that people like Twitchy just want to use Israel as a tool to attack those they don’t like domestically rather than sincere support for the Israeli people, this is exhibit A. Nowhere at all does Pelosi condone the actions of Hamas or call them a humanitarian group.

139 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 6:52:50am

The GOP’s base talks incessantly about impeachment, prominent members of their party talk it or suggest aloud that they’d support it if brought up, and their leaders can’t go a press conference without accusing the President of acting against the Constitution and his oath of office.

BUT…they swear up and down that the President is the only one talking impeachment, because he’s got the audacity to use it against the GOP in order to raise funds for Dem candidates.

140 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 6:54:52am

re: #139 Targetpractice

The GOP’s base talks incessantly about impeachment, prominent members of their party talk it or suggest aloud that they’d support it if brought up, and their leaders can’t go a press conference without accusing the President of acting against the Constitution and his oath of office.

BUT…they swear up and down that the President is the only one talking impeachment, because he’s got the audacity to use it against the GOP in order to raise funds for Dem candidates.

How dare Obummer use our political rhetoric as a tool against us!

141 Timothy Watson  Jul 30, 2014 6:55:54am

re: #137 Teukka

Didn’t the Swedes try their damnedest in the ’80s to sink several Soviet submarines? Did Putin not get that message?

142 Teukka  Jul 30, 2014 6:59:20am

re: #141 Timothy Watson

Didn’t the Swedes try their damnedest in the ’80s to sink several Soviet submarines? Did Putin not get that message?

Apparently not.

*smh*

143 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 7:00:21am

re: #120 ObserverArt

Are there meds available for the “twitchy” condition?

Lobotomy is likely the only reasonable course of treatment.

144 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 7:00:41am

re: #139 Targetpractice

The GOP’s base talks incessantly about impeachment, prominent members of their party talk it or suggest aloud that they’d support it if brought up, and their leaders can’t go a press conference without accusing the President of acting against the Constitution and his oath of office.

BUT…they swear up and down that the President is the only one talking impeachment, because he’s got the audacity to use it against the GOP in order to raise funds for Dem candidates.

It’s a tactic the GOP establishment have to use to keep their own people in line…this allows the nutjobs a chance to back off the topic without sounding like they are backing down, which is something they do not like to do.

145 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 7:02:11am

FYI

146 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:02:34am

re: #145 Dr. Matt

FYI

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I thought conservatives didn’t like free stuff.

147 lawhawk  Jul 30, 2014 7:03:05am

I think that’s about right. Of course, how does someone get Hamas to relinquish power in Gaza to anyone, let alone Fatah’s Abbas? Hamas isn’t about to give up power and control in Gaza, nor is it likely to lose elections there that are supposed to be held by the end of the year. We’d likely see a repeat of the last Palestinian elections, with Fatah holding on in the West Bank and Gaza held by Hamas despite the crushing toll Hamas rule has had on the region.

The fight hasn’t gained Gazans anything but an ever higher body count, misery, and the destruction of homes, buildings, schools, and infrastructure, but Hamas still thinks they can outlast Israel. Israeli policy hasn’t been able to dislodge Hamas, and intensifying attacks in Gaza has only worsened Israel’s position in world media. Peres seems to understand this, but still comes up against the billion dollar question of how to dislodge Hamas.

No one else has figured this out either.

148 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:03:10am

ZOMG TEH POPE IZ TOO MUCH LIEK OBUMMER!

/2014 Republican party

The resolution, written by Reps. John Larson (D-Conn.) and Pete King (R-N.Y.), congratulates Francis on his March 2013 election and recognizes “his inspirational statements and actions.”

The seemingly innocuous resolution was referred to the House Foreign Affairs Committee, which hasn’t acted on it. The panel didn’t comment for this article.

The inaction and the lack of a white smoke signal from Boehner have sparked speculation that politics is at play.

Only 19 of the 221 co-sponsors are Republicans. The dearth of GOP members on the measure could be attributable to assertions that the pope is “too liberal,” according to a Republican backer of the legislation.

The source noted that Francis last year denounced “trickle-down economics.”

Some Republicans believe the pope is “sounding like [President] Obama. [The pope] talks about equality — he actually used the term ‘trickle-down economics,’ which is politically charged,” the GOP official said.

149 Timothy Watson  Jul 30, 2014 7:03:40am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I thought conservatives didn’t like free stuff.

Click through to the link, it’s not what you’re expecting. :)

150 makeitstop  Jul 30, 2014 7:03:51am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I thought conservatives didn’t like free stuff.

That’s the one Colbert bought. The link clicks through to Colbert Nation.

151 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 7:03:55am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I thought conservatives didn’t like free stuff.

Did you click on the link? They certainly won’t like THIS free stuff. ;)

152 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:06:10am

re: #149 Timothy Watson

Click through to the link, it’s not what you’re expecting. :)

Hah. I see now. Sorry guys. Long night last night with family.

153 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:06:30am

Oh url buying brilliancy.

154 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 7:06:53am

re: #136 Mattand

I’m guessing that’s the new Comcast skyscraper?

Yep. If I stay here long enough my window herb garden is going to get some shade. More for the Feline Overlords to sneer at though as well.

The development company did a half hour presentation for the residents of the apartment building so we got to ask questions about noise, appearance, and get an idea of what the disruption was going to be like.

So far the construction here has been much more professional and courteous than that building the 14-story apartment building on the next block of Arch. Those were the people doing street jack-hammer work at 1am the one evening. Plus the willingness to block one of the lanes of Arch repeatedly in order to unload trucks - often at 4:30-5:00 pm.

155 Timothy Watson  Jul 30, 2014 7:07:20am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Oh url buying brilliancy.

How long until Palin (or, more probably, her lawyer) files a complaint with ICANN?

156 darthstar  Jul 30, 2014 7:07:32am
157 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:08:00am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s a tactic the GOP establishment have to use to keep their own people in line…this allows the nutjobs a chance to back off the topic without sounding like they are backing down, which is something they do not like to do.

Something they’re not likely to. Keeping the impeachment talk going amongst the base is necessary to get them out to the polls, so the GOP leadership is stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard place: Knowing impeachment is suicidal, but afraid to stamp out such talk for fear the base will jump ship.

It’s only going to get worse if the President goes through with talk about issuing work visas to millions of undocumented workers.

158 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:11:11am

re: #155 Timothy Watson

How long until Palin (or, more probably, her lawyer) files a complaint with ICANN?

I am not sure really what they can do though legally. Judge may say that this is a case of getting beaten to the punch so to speak.

159 darthstar  Jul 30, 2014 7:11:44am
160 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:13:19am

re: #156 darthstar

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Saw that on the front of the Post today, his defense is actually going with a defense that his wife had a crush on the lobbyist that gave them gifts. Have to say, I didn’t like Bob, thought him a sexist dick but I didn’t figure he was a crooked sexist dick since while we’ve had our share of assholes in Va over the years, corruption really hasn’t been a big problem. Bob’s never going to be president now or even veep or AG.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 7:13:44am

Having a nice, civilized conversation with a gun-fucker

162 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:14:07am

re: #157 Targetpractice

It’s only going to get worse if the President goes through with talk about issuing work visas to millions of undocumented workers.

If Obama goes through with that, the racist howling from the RWNJs will be deafening.

163 darthstar  Jul 30, 2014 7:14:38am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Jail might be a preferable option for him after all.

164 Killgore Trout  Jul 30, 2014 7:15:14am

re: #147 lawhawk

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I think that’s about right. Of course, how does someone get Hamas to relinquish power in Gaza to anyone, let alone Fatah’s Abbas? Hamas isn’t about to give up power and control in Gaza, nor is it likely to lose elections there that are supposed to be held by the end of the year. We’d likely see a repeat of the last Palestinian elections, with Fatah holding on in the West Bank and Gaza held by Hamas despite the crushing toll Hamas rule has had on the region.

The fight hasn’t gained Gazans anything but an ever higher body count, misery, and the destruction of homes, buildings, schools, and infrastructure, but Hamas still thinks they can outlast Israel. Israeli policy hasn’t been able to dislodge Hamas, and intensifying attacks in Gaza has only worsened Israel’s position in world media. Peres seems to understand this, but still comes up against the billion dollar question of how to dislodge Hamas.

No one else has figured this out either.

Although it’s encouraging to hear reports that Hamas is losing public opinion I suspect that they might just be replaced by another one of the dozen or so “resistance” movements in Gaza. I’m not optimistic.

165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 7:15:31am

re: #137 Teukka

Can’t anyone tell Putin and his Kremlin Crew that if they keep waving their dicks around, someone might bobbit?

Youtube Video

;)

166 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:16:58am

re: #159 darthstar

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Oh, how very, very true.

“Congressman Ryan, why do you not address how you’re going to pay for all this?”

“Look, do you want the miracle I wish to bestow upon you or not? We’ll leave paying for it all to somebody else.”

167 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 7:17:11am

re: #159 darthstar

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Step 1. Repeal Obamacare.
Step 2. Let the free markets decide.
Step 3. Praise St. Ronny Raygun.

168 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:18:05am

re: #163 darthstar

Jail might be a preferable option for him after all.

Might just be. So glad that pandering dick isn’t my governor anymore and no Crazy Cuccinneli at AG either.

169 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 7:18:23am

re:
#161

He sounds nice….

170 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:19:46am

These morans are completely useless:

A bill to deal with the immigration surge at the border appears headed for procedural defeat in the Senate as lawmakers trade blame over their inaction on the crisis.

Days ahead of Congress’ five-week summer recess, Senate Democrats’ $3.5 billion emergency spending bill designed to help deal with tens of thousands of young migrants crossing the border illegally has yet to draw the necessary support to move forward. A vote in the Senate was expected Wednesday.

The inclusion of hundreds of millions of dollars to fight Western wildfires and provide aid for Israel’s defense hasn’t been enough to win over Republicans, who demand legal changes rejected by Democrats to return the young migrants more quickly to Central America.

SECURE THE BORDER! DEPORT EVERYBODY! SHARKS WITH LASER BEAMS IN THE RIO GRANDE!*

* = but don’t expect us to pay for it or do anything about it

171 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 7:21:02am
172 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:22:58am

re: #170 Lidane

These morans are completely useless:

SECURE THE BORDER! DEPORT EVERYBODY! SHARKS WITH LASER BEAMS IN THE RIO GRANDE!*

* = but don’t expect us to pay for it or do anything about it

The do nothing party strikes again.

173 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:23:27am

re: #170 Lidane

These morans are completely useless:

SECURE THE BORDER! DEPORT EVERYBODY! SHARKS WITH LASER BEAMS IN THE RIO GRANDE!*

* = but don’t expect us to pay for it or do anything about it

This is the GOP’s answer to every crisis: Kick the can down the road. How do we deal with tens of thousands of children coming here as refugees, looking to get away from the drug wars we’ve created? “Throw’em back! We’ll deal with the issue later!”

174 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 30, 2014 7:23:44am
175 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:24:46am

re: #173 Targetpractice

This is the GOP’s answer to every crisis: Kick the can down the road. How do we deal with tens of thousands of children coming here as refugees, looking to get away from the drug wars we’ve created? “Throw’em back! We’ll deal with the issue later!”

And most of them don’t want to do anything about said drug war either. It’s just typical xenophobic bullshit from the GOP.

176 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:28:52am

re: #173 Targetpractice

This is the GOP’s answer to every crisis: Kick the can down the road. How do we deal with tens of thousands of children coming here as refugees, looking to get away from the drug wars we’ve created? “Throw’em back! We’ll deal with the issue later!”

Pretty much. Every issue comes down to them wanting to wait until some mythical condition has been met, and until that happens they’re going to just sit around with their thumbs up their asses and whine.

It’s procrastination writ large.

177 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:32:57am

re: #176 Lidane

Pretty much. Every issue comes down to them wanting to wait until some mythical condition has been met, and until that happens they’re going to just sit around with their thumbs up their asses and whine.

It’s procrastination writ large.

My favorite of late has been listening to wingnuts tell me we need the seal the border, then asking them if they really believe you can stop 100% of illegal immigrants from getting here. The ones who don’t start venting steam out their ears instead go into their own fantasy world where they could institute policies that would give the East Germans pause.

178 sattv4u2  Jul 30, 2014 7:33:07am

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

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Gee. And when I went to summer camp all we did was learn how to make a gimp key chain!
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179 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 7:35:48am

[Gun-fucker Tweets Nazi meme]

VICIOUS BABUSHKA: If Obama is just like Hitler why r u still on Twitter & not in a death camp?

GUN FUCKER: BECAUSE WE CAN STILL HAS ARE GUNZ HURR HURR!!!

VB: A bunch of random citizens with guns could not have prevented the Holocaust.

GF: A BUNCH OF RANDOM CITIZENS WITH GUNS STARTED AMERICA!!!!!

VB: Warsaw Ghetto partisans had guns, how’d that work out for them?

GF: HURR HURR UR A COMMUNIST!!!!!!

Here’s the whole Time Line, I blocked the gun-fucker but others are still playing with the chew toy.

180 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 7:37:17am

re:
#179

So, if Obama is a dictator but all’s good because everyone’s got their guns that Obama was supposed to take, what exactly is the problem for these folks?

181 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:38:04am

re: #180 Bulworth

re:
#179

So, if Obama is a dictator but all’s good because everyone’s got their guns that Obama was supposed to take, what exactly is the problem for these folks?

44, Barack Hussein Obama, Democratic Party, 2009-

182 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:40:14am

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

[Gun-fucker Tweets Nazi meme]

VICIOUS BABUSHKA: If Obama is just like Hitler why r u still on Twitter & not in a death camp?

GUN FUCKER: BECAUSE WE CAN STILL HAS ARE GUNZ HURR HURR!!!

VB: A bunch of random citizens with guns could not have prevented the Holocaust.

GF: A BUNCH OF RANDOM CITIZENS WITH GUNS STARTED AMERICA!!!!!

VB: Warsaw Ghetto partisans had guns, how’d that work out for them?

GF: HURR HURR UR A COMMUNIST!!!!!!

Here’s the whole Time Line, I blocked the gun-fucker but others are still playing with the chew toy.

Most of those “random citizens” were either veterans of the French And Indian War or were frontiersmen who had to live off what they could kill and farm. Not pudknockers who “trained” by plinking at paper targets and subsisted on what they could find for cheap at Wally World. And those that didn’t join the Continental Army were treated with disdain because they were chickenshits who didn’t want to venture past the boundaries of their own towns and would run at the first sign of battle.

183 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:41:45am

re: #180 Bulworth

re:
#179

So, if Obama is a dictator but all’s good because everyone’s got their guns that Obama was supposed to take, what exactly is the problem for these folks?

It’s called The White House for a reason. Illegal, imperial preznit!

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 7:41:47am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Most of those “random citizens” were either veterans of the French And Indian War or were frontiersmen who had to live off what they could kill and farm. Not pudknockers who “trained” by plinking at paper targets and subsisted on what they could find for cheap at Wally World. And those that didn’t join the Continental Army were treated with disdain because they were chickenshits who didn’t want to venture past the boundaries of their own towns and would run at the first sign of battle.

185 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:42:18am

They’re also talking about a different time period. Why some Americans think you need to hoard guns to survive in 21st century America is beyond me. I really do get why people want to own guns. I truly and sincerely do. What I do not get is the culture of gun hoarding cultivated by NRA fear campaigns.

186 JustMark  Jul 30, 2014 7:42:57am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Might just be. So glad that pandering dick isn’t my governor anymore and no Crazy Cuccinneli at AG either.

Amen to that!

187 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 7:43:29am

re:
#177

I’m still chuckling over the thread from last week where the RWNJ didn’t believe in the Constitutional right to an attorney.

Mericans don’t get no attorney illeagles shouldn get attorney.

Sane person: actually, yes, Americans do have a right to an attorney.

Nuh uh!

Sane person: actually, yes, it’s true. Americans are entitled under the Constitution to an attorney if arrested or charged with a crime.

Not in the Constitution!

Sane person: sigh. Been the law for 50 years.

Just because activist judgists approve doesn’t mean Constitutional!

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 7:43:36am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

They’re also talking about a different time period. Why some Americans think you need to hoard guns to survive in 21st century America is beyond me. I really do get why people want to own guns. I truly and sincerely do. What I do not get is the culture of gun hoarding cultivated by NRA fear campaigns.

The idea that a bunch of random citizens can get together and overthrow the government was pretty much blown by 1794.

189 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:44:43am

You know if Obama is this gun-grabber that they fantasize him to be. He would have done something in 2009. Strong majorities in both houses. Of course, you point that out, you get a response and something you can”t totally disprove and it’s WELL OBAMA WOULD DO IT IF HE WANTED TO AND OUR ARMS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT PREVENTED HIM FROM DOING IT. Now, common sense tells you that’s nonsense but you can’t disprove it. You of course can’t prove it either. Really enough of gun hoarding. Maybe if gun nuts cared more about people than guns, we wouldn’t have as much problems with health care or education in this country.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 7:44:49am
191 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:44:50am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

What I do not get is the culture of gun hoarding cultivated by NRA fear campaigns.

Who do you think benefits the most when the NRA starts raising the spectre of gun seizures and ammo shortages?

192 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 7:45:37am

Breaking! Paleontologists have found a living fossil, a Neanderthal male who lives on the Twitter plains.

193 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 7:45:51am

re:
#182

There also weren’t any police forces in those days, people lived on the frontier, had to defend against Indians, use guns to kill animals for food, etc.

194 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:47:03am

re: #190 Pie-onist Overlord

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I’m not sure where to begin. Perhaps with the idea of putting Gandhi and Dr. King, two of the most prominent advocates of non-violent resistance, in the “Loved Guns” category.

195 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:47:19am

re: #188 Pie-onist Overlord

The idea that a bunch of random citizens can get together and overthrow the government was pretty much blown by 1794.

No doubt and that also shows you that the founders that they claim to venerate weren’t so fond of people taking up arms against the government every time something people didn’t like happened. Even people like Patrick Henry and Samuel Adams supported the response to the Whiskey Rebellion by Washington. They like to scream NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION but the fact of the matter is they do have representation. The colonists had no say in the taxes levied on them by the British parliament. These people did and do have a say but they just don’t like the people that are there and I sometimes don’t either but doesn’t mean the current federal government resembles imperial Britain.

196 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 7:48:19am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

They’re also talking about a different time period. Why some Americans think you need to hoard guns to survive in 21st century America is beyond me. I really do get why people want to own guns. I truly and sincerely do. What I do not get is the culture of gun hoarding cultivated by NRA fear campaigns.

They must make greater sacrifices to their gods. All ye faithful to the temple immediately!
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Bow to your god!

197 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:48:36am

re: #191 Lidane

Who do you think benefits the most when the NRA starts raising the spectre of gun seizures and ammo shortages?

Gun companies of course but I’m talking about the regular schmo who buys into that culture. That’s what I don’t get. I get the gun companies loving that they have the gun fuckers by the balls and afraid of imagined tyrants. The same “tyrants” that they enjoy cocktails with after Congressional hearings.

198 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:49:16am

re: #196 Feline Fearless Leader

They must make greater sacrifices to their gods. All ye faithful to the temple immediately!
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Bow to your god!

Never was a big John Wayne guy.

199 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 7:50:47am

In today’s world if you have to rely on guns to save yourself from a tyrannical govt, you’ve already lost.

200 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 7:51:15am

re: #194 Targetpractice

I’m not sure where to begin. Perhaps with the idea of putting Gandhi and Dr. King, two of the most prominent advocates of non-violent resistance, in the “Loved Guns” category.

There’s also the reality that Washington and Lincoln were responsible for putting down armed resistances to federal authority, Washington with the Whiskey Rebellion, Lincoln with the Civil War.

And three of those on the list of “Loved Guns” are famous for (shocker!) being assassinated with guns.

201 Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2014 7:51:40am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Never was a big John Wayne guy.

He was good at what he did, which was ACTING. Same for Ronald Reagan, except that he wasn’t as good at it. Always think of him as more a refrigerator salesman.

202 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:53:02am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

He was good at what he did, which was ACTING. Same for Ronald Reagan, except that he wasn’t as good at it. Always think of him as more a refrigerator salesman.

Ha I do remember my grandfather when he ranted about Reagan saying that Reagan wasn’t even that good an actor.Good enough though I guess to convince people he was presidential worthy I guess.

203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 30, 2014 7:53:48am

And this doesn’t even begin to touch the problem of “wrong guys having the weapons” (see Ukraine).

204 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 30, 2014 7:53:54am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

James Garner on Reagan:

Ronald Reagan wasn’t qualified to be governor, let alone president. I was a vice president of the Screen Actors Guild when he was its president. My duties consisted of attending meetings and voting. The only thing I remember is that Ronnie never had an original thought and that we had to tell him what to say. That’s no way to run a union, let along a state or a country.

And he also said:

Garner writes that he was asked to run for Congress in 1962 as a Republican, and “it didn’t stop them when I told them I was a Democrat. …They just thought I could win.” In 1990, Democratic leaders approached him about running for governor of California, but the discussion got to the issue of abortion and Garner says he answered, “I don’t have an opinion, because that’s up to the woman. It has nothing to do with me.” The conversation pretty much stopped there.

205 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:55:23am

re: #200 Targetpractice

There’s also the reality that Washington and Lincoln were responsible for putting down armed resistances to federal authority, Washington with the Whiskey Rebellion, Lincoln with the Civil War.

And three of those on the list of “Loved Guns” are famous for (shocker!) being assassinated with guns.

The other funny thing is for all their talk about “We the people” is that they side against the people awfully quickly if they deem the cause “unAmerican.” Funny how TPers saying “This time we came unarmed” was more “American” than OWS or the numerous immigrant reform protests that they flip their shit about. Honestly if you need to wave your gun around to make a political point. You’re a coward in my book. It doesn’t make you look badass, tough, or anything. It just makes you look like a pansy who feels the need to intimidate people with a gun to make a political point.

206 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 7:56:38am
207 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 7:57:15am

re: #156 darthstar

Gov. Ultrasound’s (Bob McDonnell-VA) crappy personal life exposed in trial.
How’s THAT deep probe feel, Bob?
#WarOnWomen #libcrib

The Party of Family Values.

I thought I heard a report where he is blaming everything that brought him down politically on his wife. I have a feeling she is going to turn and burn him big time.

208 Frenchy  Jul 30, 2014 7:57:19am

I just keep thinking that if Obama is really a tyrant along the lines of Hitler, Stalin, etc. as these lunatics quite earnestly believe, he has to be the least effective tyrant in the history of the world. I mean the guy has been in office for 5 1/2 years. We’ve seen absolutely no sign of a plot to take over the world in that time.

He only has a couple of years left in office. If he really plans to take over America and murder all of its citizens as I have been told, it seems to me like he had better get that ball rolling.

209 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 7:57:51am
210 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:58:19am

re: #204 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

James Garner on Reagan:

And he also said:

Saw that on FB the other day. I love, love Mr. Garner’s answer on abortion. I think Gregory Peck also refused a run for office too. To me, Reagan is the embodiment of right wing hypocrisy when it comes to entertainers and politics. Anyhow, sad to lose Garner, I did not see him in much but Henley was one of my favorite characters in The Great Escape which is my favorite WWII movie.

211 sattv4u2  Jul 30, 2014 7:58:43am

Older Men With Guns Rob Pharmacy, Make Off With Viagra, Other Drugs
chicago.cbslocal.com

Police ask local doctors to report if any older men make an appointment because their erections lasted over 4 hours days week months
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212 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 7:59:25am

Mr. Freedom Fries says what?

House GOPer Opposes Suing Obama Because He’d Rather Impeach Him

Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC) thinks suing President Obama is a waste of time — he would prefer to head straight to impeachment.

Jones told The Hill that House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) lawsuit against Obama over his use of executive actions is merely “theater” and “a show.”

“Why not impeach instead of wasting $1 million to $2 million of the taxpayers’ money?” Jones asked. “If you’re serious about this, use what the founders of the Constitution gave us.”

The congressman said he will vote against legislation authorizing the lawsuit, which will likely come to a vote on Thursday. The House Rules Committee voted to advance the legislation last week.

While Boehner has said that discussion of impeaching Obama is a “scam,” a few Republicans have expressed support for impeachment.

Jones told The Hill that general lack of enthusiasm for impeaching Obama in the House worries him.

“That’s why the Republican Party is in trouble,” he said.

213 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 7:59:28am

“You never see pictures of Obama crouching in the sand at the Rio Grande.”

214 wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2014 7:59:38am

re: #194 Targetpractice

I’m not sure where to begin. Perhaps with the idea of putting Gandhi and Dr. King, two of the most prominent advocates of non-violent resistance, in the “Loved Guns” category.

Not to mention both assassinated with guns.

215 lawhawk  Jul 30, 2014 7:59:56am

re: #209 jaunte

Who do they think they are recreating the Sands of Iwo Jima? ///////////

216 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 7:59:58am

re:
#204

Ha, Garner actually played a former Dem president in the rather under-rated comedy, My Fellow Americans. The late, great Jack Lemmon played a former GOP president who teams up with Garner’s character when both are plotted against by schemers inside the new WH.

217 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 7:59:58am

re: #208 Frenchy

I just keep thinking that if Obama is really a tyrant along the lines of Hitler, Stalin, etc. as these lunatics quite earnestly believe, he has to be the least effective tyrant in the history of the world. I mean the guy has been in office for 5 1/2 years. We’ve seen absolutely no sign of a plot to take over the world in that time.

He only has a couple of years left in office. If he really plans to take over America and murder all of its citizens as I have been told, it seems to me like he had better get that ball rolling.

He hasn’t even bothered to give himself a term expansion like Chavez in Venezuela did. Nor have we seen the abolishing of a single opposition party. Really, Obama’s slacking if he’s a tyrant or doing a decent enough job if he’s just a regular elected schmo.

218 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:00:43am
219 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:01:04am

re:
#212

Why does Obama keep talking about impeachment? No Repubs are talking about it!!!1

220 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 8:01:20am

re: #212 Lidane

Mr. Freedom Fries says what?

House GOPer Opposes Suing Obama Because He’d Rather Impeach Him

But remember, the only one talking about impeachment is the President.

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221 lawhawk  Jul 30, 2014 8:02:02am

re: #212 Lidane

But remember, the GOP wants you to think that they’re not all about impeachment when the rank and file are pushing for it at every opportunity.

First rule of impeachment club is you don’t talk about it? Heh. They’re talking about it. All the time. The Democrats are only responding to the ongoing talk and concern that if they lose more ground in November, that they will have a real situation on their hands.

The GOP started this nonsense, they’ve poured gasoline on it, and they keep fanning those flames.

And it wont go away any time soon as long as nitwits like this keep pushing for impeachment.

222 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:02:03am

re: #218 jaunte

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It’s German for “The Bart The.”

223 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:02:09am

DERP

224 wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2014 8:02:39am

re: #209 jaunte

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Are they at the same resort as the Freepers?

225 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:02:52am

You know the GOP could avoid being mocked a little if they shut up with the talk of impeaching and suing Obama but I get it their base needs a childish fit so they can feel their representatives are being “sufficiently” conservative.

226 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 8:03:11am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

Having a nice, civilized conversation with a gun-fucker

[@GeeOhPees2 @viciousbabushka The biggest problem we have in #America is commie leftists such as yourself.]

Amazing how many of these twittering twits have a damn blog. Yeah, I checked his bio on his Tweet page. I am always amazed at the self-serving bullshit they put up about themselves.

How many stupid self-important blogs are there now? Sheesh, everyone has nothing to say and they are going to say it…damn it!!!

(Wank…wank…)

227 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:03:32am

re:
#205

It’s “We The People” but only the “3%” or some other small force although they’re also a persecuted majority. Math is hard.

228 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:03:33am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

The other funny thing is for all their talk about “We the people” is that they side against the people awfully quickly if they deem the cause “unAmerican.” Funny how TPers saying “This time we came unarmed” was more “American” than OWS or the numerous immigrant reform protests that they flip their shit about. Honestly if you need to wave your gun around to make a political point. You’re a coward in my book. It doesn’t make you look badass, tough, or anything. It just makes you look like a pansy who feels the need to intimidate people with a gun to make a political point.

It seems to be a mindset in these groups that you need to wave something in order to intimidate that they’re right regardless of the actual facts. Be it a book or a gun.

If you haven’t read Jim Wright’s analogy to religion and a penis over on Stonekettle Station I suggest giving it a look. He pretty much hits home about how this sort of abuse goes on. Though I would caveat that I think he is essentially saying that it’s not a religion problem - it’s an asshole problem where the asshole is using religion as the excuse to claim unchallengeable correctness.

229 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 30, 2014 8:03:48am

re: #213 jaunte

“You never see pictures of Obama crouching in the sand at the Rio Grande and planting Chinese made novelty flags in the sand..”

FTFY

230 Gus  Jul 30, 2014 8:03:56am

GOP photo-ops at the border is a thing. But hey, they don’t do photo-ops.

231 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:04:27am

If all the tea party politicians lined up along the river like posts, maybe they would be more productive.

232 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 30, 2014 8:04:37am
233 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:04:41am

re: #230 Gus

GOP photo-ops at the border is a thing. But hey, they don’t do photo-ops.

They also have never used a teleprompter ever.

234 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:04:59am

Bird perches.

235 Frenchy  Jul 30, 2014 8:05:58am

I feel safer knowing that Michelle is down there keeping things under control.

236 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:06:02am

re: #228 Feline Fearless Leader

It seems to be a mindset in these groups that you need to wave something in order to intimidate that they’re right regardless of the actual facts. Be it a book or a gun.

If you haven’t read Jim Wright’s analogy to religion and a penis over on Stonekettle Station I suggest giving it a look. He pretty much hits home about how this sort of abuse goes on. Though I would caveat that I think he is essentially saying that it’s not a religion problem - it’s an asshole problem where the asshole is using religion as the excuse to claim unchallengeable correctness.

I have not but I would agree with Mr. Wright that it’s not a problem with religion but more a problem with assholes using religion to do just that.

237 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 8:06:33am

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

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I do not envy those men the job they had to do.

238 b.d.  Jul 30, 2014 8:07:34am

re: #209 jaunte

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Put your damn shoes on Bachmann!! We are paying for you to go barefoot on the beach!?!?!

239 Gus  Jul 30, 2014 8:10:01am

I thought there was an “invasion.” I don’t see an invasion. Just some desolate river beach.

240 Timothy Watson  Jul 30, 2014 8:10:57am

re: #238 b.d.

Put your damn shoes on Bachmann!! We are paying for you to go barefoot on the beach!?!?!

Imagine all the viruses and bacteria that must be in that river and on that sand.

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241 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:10:57am

re: #239 Gus

I thought there was an “invasion.” I don’t see an invasion. Just some desolate river beach.

Shows you the efficiency and effectiveness of their repelling of it.
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242 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:11:31am

re: #240 Timothy Watson

Imagine all the viruses and bacteria that must be in that river and on that sand.

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Might have to quarantine her before she brings something dangerous back to Minnesota.
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243 Frenchy  Jul 30, 2014 8:12:09am

re: #240 Timothy Watson

She is so brave to be exposing herself to Ebola, leprosy, AIDS, etc.

244 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 8:13:22am

If this happened at a Jay-Z concert, teabaggers and Bill O’Racist would be claiming this is part of the Black Culture:

Man rapes 17-year-old at Keith Urban concert as country music fans record on video

245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:14:01am

re: #177 Targetpractice

My favorite of late has been listening to wingnuts tell me we need the seal the border, then asking them if they really believe you can stop 100% of illegal immigrants from getting here. The ones who don’t start venting steam out their ears instead go into their own fantasy world where they could institute policies that would give the East Germans pause.

How about a mandatory national ID for all citizens and another one for legal resident aliens?

It would not only end voter ID issues, it would also be a necessary prerequisite for employment, renting a house, opening a bank account, getting a driver’s license, registering a child for school, receiving emergency medical care.

Any takers out there (out there out there out there….?)

246 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2014 8:14:32am

Those Bachmann/King photos look like they were taken at a beach resort, not the U.S./Mexico border.

247 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:15:28am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Those Bachmann/King photos look like they were taken at a beach resort, not the U.S./Mexico border.

That would have been my first guess.

248 Amory Blaine  Jul 30, 2014 8:15:48am

re: #211 sattv4u2

Lemon party.

249 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:16:13am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Those Bachmann/King photos look like they were taken at a beach resort, not the U.S./Mexico border.

THAT TEH RESORT WHERE GATEWAY PUNDIT SAID THEY WAS VACATIONING ALL TEH ILLEGALS!!!!!!!

250 wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2014 8:17:10am

re: #239 Gus

I thought there was an “invasion.” I don’t see an invasion. Just some desolate river beach.

I like how they’re helping the border patrol by planting those little flags to show which side they are on.

Unless we are looking east there and they just claimed Tamaulipas for the US.

251 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 8:18:00am

re: #194 Targetpractice

I’m not sure where to begin. Perhaps with the idea of putting Gandhi and Dr. King, two of the most prominent advocates of non-violent resistance, in the “Loved Guns” category.

I’d like to know where they think Obama ever said he wanted to take away ALL guns? I’d ask the guy asking if there any question that very question.

These idiots are so busy picking fleas off each other they can’t actually follow reality. They hear another nut say something and it becomes fact. And then there are more facts based on an untruth and on and on it goes.

Never have I seen such blatant ignorance in the United States. They should be embarrassed for being like they are but there is a pride in their ignorance and it is shown when a guy complete without facts asks if there any questions.

252 wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2014 8:18:38am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Those Bachmann/King photos look like they were taken at a beach resort, not the U.S./Mexico border.

I wonder what part of the beach they want to put the fence on.

253 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:19:14am

re:
#239

There is an invasion, just not at that spot.

Sane person: Than why don’t you go to that spot?

Why are you persecuting us?!

254 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:19:22am

re: #251 ObserverArt

I’d like to know where they think Obama ever said he wanted to take away ALL guns? I’d ask the guy asking if there any question that very question.

These idiots are so busy picking fleas off each other they can’t actually follow reality. They hear another nut say something and it becomes fact. And then there are more facts based on an untruth and on and on it goes.

Never have I seen such blatant ignorance in the United States. They should be embarrassed for being like they are but there is a pride in their ignorance and it is shown when a guy complete without facts asks if there any questions.

Then when you show them facts they’re all HURR HURR THAT’S A LEFTIST COMMUNIST SITE!!!! unless it’s Breitbart, DailyCaller or Worldnutdaily.

255 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:19:23am

re: #252 wrenchwench

I wonder what part of the beach they want to put the fence on.

That is for the laser sharks

256 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:20:22am

re: #251 ObserverArt

I’d like to know where they think Obama ever said he wanted to take away ALL guns? I’d ask the guy asking if there any question that very question.

These idiots are so busy picking fleas off each other they can’t actually follow reality. They hear another nut say something and it becomes fact. And then there are more facts based on an untruth and on and on it goes.

Never have I seen such blatant ignorance in the United States. They should be embarrassed for being like they are but there is a pride in their ignorance and it is shown when a guy complete without facts asks if there any questions.

I’d like a straight answer to this simple question. “What gun policies specifically has Obama proposed that you find tyrannical and what makes these policies unique from past proposals?” or better yet an actual answer on why the NRA keeps on going back and opposing stuff they once supported. But you can’t get a straight answer from these assholes because they think anyone who doesn’t worship guns at the altar of LaPierre is somehow less of an American.

257 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 8:20:40am

re: #204 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

James Garner on Reagan:

And he also said:

I think I like Jimmy Garner now more than ever. Thanks for those quotes.

258 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:21:10am

re:
#205

They’re planting little US flags? Oh, that will stop the elleagles. No need to send those National Guardsmen, Gov Perry.

259 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:21:19am
260 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:21:44am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How about a mandatory national ID for all citizens and another one for legal resident aliens?

It would not only end voter ID issues, it would also be a necessary prerequisite for employment, renting a house, opening a bank account, getting a driver’s license, registering a child for school, receiving emergency medical care.

Any takers out there (out there out there out there….?)

Isn’t voter qualification still a state-level issue?* I expect any serious push for a national ID under the current administration would face a huge upcry from the state’s rights and drooling “Obama tyranny” crowd.

* - State control and thus all the nice “tests” related to Jim Crow. Another reason the nuts hate the 14th Amendment is that it’s the crowbar used to prevent that sort of thing from continuing as a major tool in the voter disenfranchising movement.

261 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:25:11am

re:
#256

Hurr hurr background checks and closing gun show loophole!!! TYRANNY!!!1

262 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:26:47am

re: #259 jaunte

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Cruz and King are the two biggest shitheads in a party full of them.

263 ObserverArt  Jul 30, 2014 8:26:50am

re: #230 Gus

GOP photo-ops at the border is a thing. But hey, they don’t do photo-ops.

But we do photoshops…and these images are now saved for just that kind of thing. I may have one later…

264 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:29:33am

Nothing on this GOP photo-op at the border at cnn.com. BIAS!

Just moar stuff on Israel-Gaza conflict, which is Obama distraction from Border!!!1

265 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:31:58am

re: #260 Feline Fearless Leader

Isn’t voter qualification still a state-level issue?* I expect any serious push for a national ID under the current administration would face a huge upcry from the state’s rights and drooling “Obama tyranny” crowd.

* - State control and thus all the nice “tests” related to Jim Crow. Another reason the nuts hate the 14th Amendment is that it’s the crowbar used to prevent that sort of thing from continuing as a major tool in the voter disenfranchising movement.

It was only a rhetorical question. Needless to say, neither the Right nor the Left would embrace such an idea, although it would be a simple and effective solution to a lot of issues.

These people do not want solutions, they want outrage.

266 KingKenrod  Jul 30, 2014 8:33:42am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

I’d like a straight answer to this simple question. “What gun policies specifically has Obama proposed that you find tyrannical and what makes these policies unique from past proposals?” or better yet an actual answer on why the NRA keeps on going back and opposing stuff they once supported. But you can’t get a straight answer from these assholes because they think anyone who doesn’t worship guns at the altar of LaPierre is somehow less of an American.

Obama’s proposals have been mild considering some of the gun tragedies that have happened during his term. If anything his actual track record leans pro-gun - he signed a law allowing concealed carry in national parks.

267 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:35:39am

And now another gun fucker is pounding on me for pointing out that the Warsaw Ghetto fighters had guns but they failed.

268 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:35:46am

re: #266 KingKenrod

Obama’s proposals have been mild considering some of the gun tragedies that have happened during his term. If anything his actual track record leans pro-gun - he signed a law allowing concealed carry in national parks.

You are talking about the real Obama, we are talking about the Right Wing Outrage Effigy Obama

269 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:36:09am

The Alamo had guns, how’d that work out for them?

270 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 30, 2014 8:36:22am

Belgium calls for clear labelling of goods from Israeli settlements

Belgium has advised retailers to label clearly the origin of products made in Israeli settlements that are in occupied Palestinian territories.

The non-binding recommendation has nothing to do with the escalating conflict between Israel and Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip, the economics ministry said, noting that Britain and Denmark already had similar labelling guidelines in place.

“It’s a non-binding advice to state on labels that products originating from occupied territories come from there,” a spokeswoman said. “We don’t see this as a sanction against Israel, but EU rules stipulate that consumers have to be informed of the origins of products.”

271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:36:41am

re: #269 Pie-onist Overlord

The Alamo had guns, how’d that work out for them?

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

272 b.d.  Jul 30, 2014 8:37:42am

re: #269 Pie-onist Overlord

The Alamo had guns, how’d that work out for them?

REMEMBER THE ALAMO, JUST NOT HOW IT ENDED!!!

273 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:37:57am

re: #269 Pie-onist Overlord

wow are you seriously dissing the Alamo partisans?

274 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:38:07am

re: #270 NJDhockeyfan

Belgium calls for clear labelling of goods from Israeli settlements

I was working for a company that was providing camera equipment to an Arab country. Seems that the bags for some of the stands were made in Israel, we just cut the tags off them and didn’t mention anything…

275 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:38:27am

re: #266 KingKenrod

Obama’s proposals have been mild considering some of the gun tragedies that have happened during his term. If anything his actual track record leans pro-gun - he signed a law allowing concealed carry in national parks.

Exactly my point. The NRA and gunfucks though will tell you a different story of Obama the Chicago gun grabber though.

276 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 8:38:45am

The Nazis had guns…..shit loads of guns…..how did that work out for them?

//

277 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:39:11am

The Soviets had a lot of guns too……..

278 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:39:23am

British empire. Oh yeah.

279 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 8:39:32am

And the Japanese Empire….

280 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:41:02am

When does a good guy with a gun become a bad guy with a gun?

281 Gus  Jul 30, 2014 8:41:23am

re: #263 ObserverArt

But we do photoshops…and these images are now saved for just that kind of thing. I may have one later…

282 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 30, 2014 8:41:36am

Pretty much every winning vs. losing side has had guns on both side, since there were guns.

The Native Americans had guns. Lots of guns. They were great with them, too.

The Maori had guns.

The Indians had guns.

283 Dr. Matt  Jul 30, 2014 8:41:49am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

When does a good guy with a gun become a bad guy with a gun?

The RWNJs will inform us.

284 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:41:53am
When does a good guy with a gun become a bad guy with a gun?

Does he agree with me, or disagree?!?!

285 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:42:37am

re: #284 jaunte

Does he agree with me, or disagree?!?!

Ding ding.

286 Bubblehead II  Jul 30, 2014 8:43:14am

re: #276 Dr. Matt

re: #277 HappyWarrior

re: #278 HappyWarrior

re: #279 Dr. Matt

HUR HUR HUR THEY LOST BECAUSE WEZ HAD MOR GUNZ

287 NJDhockeyfan  Jul 30, 2014 8:43:16am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I was working for a company that was providing camera equipment to an Arab country. Seems that the bags for some of the stands were made in Israel, we just cut the tags off them and didn’t mention anything…

So sad that we live in an age where that kind of thing is necessary.

288 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:43:21am

re: #281 Gus

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Gonna put a felled triceratops in behind them with the caption - “Two of the dinosaurs survived!”?

289 Romantic Heretic  Jul 30, 2014 8:43:23am

re: #147 lawhawk

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I think that’s about right. Of course, how does someone get Hamas to relinquish power in Gaza to anyone, let alone Fatah’s Abbas? Hamas isn’t about to give up power and control in Gaza, nor is it likely to lose elections there that are supposed to be held by the end of the year. We’d likely see a repeat of the last Palestinian elections, with Fatah holding on in the West Bank and Gaza held by Hamas despite the crushing toll Hamas rule has had on the region.

The fight hasn’t gained Gazans anything but an ever higher body count, misery, and the destruction of homes, buildings, schools, and infrastructure, but Hamas still thinks they can outlast Israel. Israeli policy hasn’t been able to dislodge Hamas, and intensifying attacks in Gaza has only worsened Israel’s position in world media. Peres seems to understand this, but still comes up against the billion dollar question of how to dislodge Hamas.

No one else has figured this out either.

Please stop conflating Gazans with Hamas. Yes, they made a bad mistake electing Hamas but that’s not surprising. Hamas looked to the majority like a good choice at the time. Just as the GOP looks like a good choice to some Americans, although not a majority.

Many of those people who voted for Hamas are undoubtedly regretting it now. But what are they going to do? Hamas won’t stand for a change of power and will do anything to keep that power.

The people in Gaza are not entirely congruent with Hamas. It isn’t just that all of Gaza suffer for what Hamas has done.

290 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:44:01am

re: #282 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Pretty much every winning vs. losing side has had guns on both side, since there were guns.

The Native Americans had guns. Lots of guns. They were great with them, too.

The Maori had guns.

The Indians had guns.

As a general rule, a bunch of random people with guns does not do well against a regular military force.

If they are the home team, the regular military may decide to withdraw for other reasons.

291 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 30, 2014 8:44:46am

re: #287 NJDhockeyfan

So sad that we live in an age where that kind of thing is necessary.

It was even more extreme with another company, we had to produce receipts, invoices and notarized documentation that none of the suppliers and sub-contractors we used were affiliated with Israel.

292 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 8:45:05am

You know what the Warsaw Uprising was admirable but it has shit little to do with a bunch of bitter assholes who can’t handle who is president.

293 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:45:24am

re: #282 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Pretty much every winning vs. losing side has had guns on both side, since there were guns.

The Native Americans had guns. Lots of guns. They were great with them, too.

The Maori had guns.

The Indians had guns.

Though when the Maori initially got guns those with guns went and conquered those who didn’t. Though obviously there were the occasional set-back where those with traditional weapons won a battle.

en.wikipedia.org

294 lawhawk  Jul 30, 2014 8:46:28am

A third of the #AskCostolo tweets were related to the harassment and safety issue, but he didn’t touch the subject with a 100 foot pole.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 30, 2014 8:46:33am

HURR HURR THE SIDE WITH TEH GUNS ALWAYS WINS!!!!!!

Except for that time on the planet of Pandora, in the Unobtainium War.

296 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 8:46:36am

re: #290 Pie-onist Overlord

As a general rule, a bunch of random people with guns does not do well against a regular military force.

If they are the home team, the regular military may decide to withdraw for other reasons.

General rule seems to be that the better supplied military wins. In any scenario where the Brits hadn’t been fighting with overextended supply lines, the Rebellion would have been crushed and we’d still be a part of the Empire.

297 Bulworth  Jul 30, 2014 8:46:59am

re:
#294

#transparency
#accountability
#responsibility

298 lawhawk  Jul 30, 2014 8:47:44am

re: #281 Gus

You need to p-shop in the Navigator and Alien pods from Alien!

299 Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2014 8:52:12am

In so many wars, the side with the better access to an ample supply of replacement soldiers and weapons is the one that won. The Soviets didn’t win against the Third Reich because of better weapons, better tactics, or better leaders. They won because they spent the summer choking the enemy with their dead, then let General Winter finish the job.

300 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2014 8:52:24am

re: #298 lawhawk

You need to p-shop in the Navigator and Alien pods from Alien!

Or tint the sand red and put the Mars Rover or even a Viking in the background.

301 jaunte  Jul 30, 2014 8:56:10am

Sand People!

302 De Kolta Chair  Jul 30, 2014 8:56:40am

re: #196 Feline Fearless Leader

They must make greater sacrifices to their gods. All ye faithful to the temple immediately!
////

Bow to your god!

Looks like the sculptor made Duke’s feet larger than they actually were. For his height he had tiny feet, one reason for his distinctive walk.

303 De Kolta Chair  Jul 30, 2014 9:00:04am

re: #261 Bulworth

re:
#256

Hurr hurr background checks and closing gun show loophole!!! TYRANNY!!!1

During debates in the last GOP prez primaries, all the candidates, including Paul, supported E-Verify. I was a bit surprised nobody on the right seemed to notice that.

304 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 9:05:19am

re: #303 De Kolta Chair

During debates in the last GOP prez primaries, all the candidates, including Paul, supported E-Verify. I was a bit surprised nobody on the right seemed to notice that.

Come on. This is the same party that nominated the guy who implemented Obamacare before it was even Obamacare. Expecting ideological honesty from their partisans is asking a lot of them.

305 De Kolta Chair  Jul 30, 2014 9:06:25am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

True that.

306 Romantic Heretic  Jul 30, 2014 9:07:43am

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

Now have this song in my head.

Youtube Video

307 Lidane  Jul 30, 2014 9:10:41am

*flips a row of cubicles, sets them all on fire*

Louie Gohmert Claims Central American Youth Are Lying About Violence

During a conference call last week hosted by GOP politician E.W. Jackson, Rep. Louie Gohmert dismissed concerns that young migrants are fleeing Central America due to drug violence, claiming that the children aren’t telling the truth.

“Texas and the United States is [sic] being invaded and we’re in danger,” Gohmert said, before alleging that most of the unaccompanied minors are lying when they tell border patrol agents that they are escaping gang violence in Central America and have been coached to make such claims. Gohmert said minors end up telling officers that “we were told to say that we were fleeing gang violence.”

The congressmen went on to say that “the penetration of criminals and terrorists across our southern border” represents a threat to the U.S. comparable to the threat of a nuclear strike from Iran against Israel.

308 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 30, 2014 9:13:27am

re: #299 Targetpractice

In so many wars, the side with the better access to an ample supply of replacement soldiers and weapons is the one that won. The Soviets didn’t win against the Third Reich because of better weapons, better tactics, or better leaders. They won because they spent the summer choking the enemy with their dead, then let General Winter finish the job.

Well, they also were amazingly good at deception. Maskirovka.

309 HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2014 9:19:28am

re: #307 Lidane

*flips a row of cubicles, sets them all on fire*

Louie Gohmert Claims Central American Youth Are Lying About Violence

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And just when I didn’t think Louie could be an even bigger asshole than he already is. Yes, Louie, they’re lying. If the allmighty has a sense of humor, Louie will end up being defeated by one of these teens once they get naturalized and run for office against him one day but I’d rather have Gohmert out of office now of course.

310 JustMark  Jul 30, 2014 9:29:38am

re: #264 Bulworth

Nothing on this GOP photo-op at the border at cnn.com. BIAS!

Just moar stuff on Israel-Gaza conflict, which is Obama distraction from Border!!!1

Some folks are easily distracted, it seems…

311 Eventual Carrion  Jul 30, 2014 9:51:29am

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

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Training your soldiers. Novel concept.

312 makeitstop  Jul 30, 2014 9:58:29am

re: #307 Lidane

“Texas and the United States is [sic] being invaded and we’re in danger,” Gohmert said.

Scared of a buncha kids, are ya, Louie?

Conservatives’ biggest problem is they’re so goddamned scared of everything.

313 darthstar  Jul 30, 2014 10:42:49am

re: #281 Gus

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Put ‘em on Mars!


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