Ted Cruz Spokesperson Derides White House Katy Perry Concert for Special Olympics - Then Deletes Tweets

Bad optics?
Gus
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UPDATE at 7/31/14 7:06:35 pm by Gus


After realizing said performance was for Special Olympics, Amanda Carpenter weasels out of it with a lame apology and deletes said Tweets.

UPDATE at 7/31/14 7:06:57 pm by Gus


Amanda Carpenter Tweet Screenshot A
Amanda Carpenter Tweet Screenshot B

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569 comments
1 darthstar  Jul 31, 2014 6:53:03pm

Well, isn’t she special?

2 darthstar  Jul 31, 2014 6:53:35pm
3 darthstar  Jul 31, 2014 6:55:45pm

Amanda Carpenter is sorry for disrespecting the special needs kids.

4 darthstar  Jul 31, 2014 6:57:59pm
5 scottslemmons  Jul 31, 2014 6:58:29pm

Of course, Cruz has worked on all that stuff by blathering about it to the wingnuts and not actually doing any real work.

Maybe he can sponsor a bill to disband the Special Olympics. That’ll show those whiny babies.

6 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 7:02:28pm

And she deletes said Tweets. Give me a minute here.

7 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:06:03pm

She deleted her tweets! Unreal!

8 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:11:12pm

Great work, Gus, as usual.

Let this be a lesson - always screenshot tweets like these, because when they’re exposed the weasels will try to hide them.

9 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 31, 2014 7:14:15pm
10 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:14:50pm

The internet never forgets, Amanda.

11 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:16:04pm

95% of my deleted tweets are for freaking typos, they end up as tweets anyway.

Someday Twitter will allow us to edit tweets. Someday. Right?

12 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:16:49pm

Note that the LGF software lets you know right away when someone like this deletes their tweets - they show up as plain text blockquotes instead of embedded tweets.

13 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 7:17:00pm

Katy Perry is appropriating Ted Cruz’ cojones.

14 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 31, 2014 7:17:31pm

How in the world does Dim Jim manage to breathe without somebody whispering in his ear “Good air in…. Bad air out…. Good air in….”

15 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 31, 2014 7:17:53pm

the only shame these right wingers feel is the shame of laying out their id in public. It is supposed to be kept behind curtains until the agenda is achieved.

16 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 7:18:09pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Great work, Gus, as usual.

Let this be a lesson - always screenshot tweets like these, because when they’re exposed the weasels will try to hide them.

Thanks. Had a suspicion she might end up deleting these so I saved them in a PSD.

17 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 7:19:15pm

Get these Cons on the short bus and send them to RealityWorld for an infinite vacation.

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18 missliberties  Jul 31, 2014 7:19:19pm

Amanda Carpenter, you ignorant slut.

Oops sorry for the mistake. I didn’t realize you were that Amanda Carpenter. Have a nice night, dearie.

19 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 31, 2014 7:19:57pm
20 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 7:20:31pm
21 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:21:41pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Note that the LGF software lets you know right away when someone like this deletes their tweets - they show up as plain text blockquotes instead of embedded tweets.

Case in point: Matt Drudge.

22 Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2014 7:24:00pm
23 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 7:24:39pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

The internet never forgets, Amanda.

It’s cool, Her boss is a laid-back dude who takes FUBAHR in stride.

24 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 31, 2014 7:25:16pm
25 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 31, 2014 7:28:15pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea
I agree. It is a nice thing RT @WCSmithIV: @amandacarpenter @tedcruz POTUS politics aside hosting the Special Olympics in WH is commendable.

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Translation: I just got a call from Ted and he told me to clean this shit up ASAP or I’m back to being the late-night hostess at the Lubbock Dennys.

RBS

26 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 7:28:20pm

WaPo: July 31 at 8:01 AM
DC Digest: What’s on tap today in DC.

— President Obama meets with members of Congress this morning on foreign policy before lunching with Vice President Biden. This afternoon, Obama signs an executive order requiring federal contractors to disclose labor law violations. Later, Obama delivers remarks at HUD, where new Secretary Julian Castro is still arranging his new desk. This evening, Obama hosts an event recognizing the anniversary of the Special Olympics in the East Room.
washingtonpost.com

27 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 7:28:30pm

So Speaker Boehner gets a little karma kiss at the end of a shitty, shitty, awful shitty day.

28 Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2014 7:28:32pm

re: #9 Pie-onist Overlord

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That’s an old concert photo.

29 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:28:51pm

Hey all! Remember my page from a few days back about a woman in Buffalo, NY running for congress calling migrant children “infected poors” on Twitter?

She deleted the tweet. It survives here at LGF.

littlegreenfootballs.com

30 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:32:16pm
31 Lidane  Jul 31, 2014 7:32:22pm

I’m amused by the idea that Ted Cruz did anything at all this week. ROFL.

32 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 31, 2014 7:32:30pm

re: #24 Franklin Brewsevelt

Amanda Carpenter is a sorry mistake. She’s hitched her wagon to a turd.

33 Joanne  Jul 31, 2014 7:33:05pm

My response to her earlier tonight.

34 missliberties  Jul 31, 2014 7:34:12pm

re: #31 Lidane

I’m amused by the idea that Ted Cruz did anything at all this week. ROFL.

He ate pizza. Then he burped.

35 nines09  Jul 31, 2014 7:35:11pm

Oh! Never mind. Just a silly tweet. Nothing to see. Move along. It’s gone. What do you mean it’s not gone? I deleted it. What? Screenshot who? SHIT.

36 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 31, 2014 7:37:26pm

May have been posted earlier, but I can’t stop lolling about this pic:

37 Stanley Sea  Jul 31, 2014 7:37:31pm

Fuck you haters, i.e. GOP.

38 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 31, 2014 7:38:59pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

PHOTO OP!!!!!!ELEVENTY

39 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 7:39:32pm

Cruz Aide attacks Special Olympics performance

THINK OF THE OPTICS PEOPLE!

40 jamesfirecat  Jul 31, 2014 7:39:36pm

re: #2 darthstar

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Youtube Video

Bring back the porn!

41 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:41:02pm
42 Irving  Jul 31, 2014 7:41:08pm

Let’s give (paltry) credit where credit is due. She didn’t double down. She actually said “I’m sorry”, which I thought were words entirely banished from the Republican lexicon. And honestly, what else can you do but delete the tweets and apologize after that?

Of course, she really should have taken a little time to Google the event, but hey, baby steps.

43 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 7:43:46pm
44 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 7:44:01pm
45 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 7:46:13pm
46 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 7:46:32pm
47 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 7:47:46pm

re: #45 Gus

Dazed and confused
Youtube Video

48 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:48:27pm
49 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 7:48:37pm

These people need to start the Not So Special Olympics for Clueless Wingnuts.

Any suggestions for specific events would be greatly appreciated!

(aka The Kneejerk Tweet Before Research Competition)

50 Joanne  Jul 31, 2014 7:50:13pm

re: #45 Gus

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The Twitterverse is brutal sometimes.

51 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 7:50:42pm

Amanda Carpenter Blames Inhaler Issue On Obama, Lies When Caught

52 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 7:50:42pm

re: #49 austin_blue

These people need to start the Not So Special Olympics for Clueless Wingnuts.

Any suggestions for specific events would be greatly appreciated!

(aka The Kneejerk Tweet Before Research Competition)

The 50 post Gish Gallop

53 TedStriker  Jul 31, 2014 7:51:16pm

re: #24 Franklin Brewsevelt

Doesn’t pull any punches, do they?

54 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:51:54pm

On a lighter note, the Twitter account @KeytarEquality is for real a thing.

55 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 31, 2014 7:51:58pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Exactly. They are spring loaded that anything Obama does has to trigger an immediate and opposite counter action. This is a prime example of simply taking the “Obama did something” and we object to a whole new level where they don’t even have to know what he did.

These people disgust me

56 Joanne  Jul 31, 2014 7:53:18pm

re: #49 austin_blue

These people need to start the Not So Special Olympics for Clueless Wingnuts.

Any suggestions for specific events would be greatly appreciated!

(aka The Kneejerk Tweet Before Research Competition)

Over the Top Outrage Oratory

Points for monosyllabic meanness and drooling hypocrisy.

57 BeachDem  Jul 31, 2014 7:53:25pm

re: #26 jaunte

And according to her tweets, she was even reading the WaPo today, so double fail, Amanda (not the light of my life.)

58 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 7:54:04pm

Amanda Carpenter just followed me on Twitter.

59 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 7:54:55pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

It can only with luck improve her grasp of current events.

60 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 7:55:43pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Amanda Carpenter just followed me on Twitter.

Bonus!

61 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:55:50pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Amanda Carpenter just followed me on Twitter.

I hope she likes random code monkey tweets.

62 TedStriker  Jul 31, 2014 7:55:57pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Amanda Carpenter just followed me on Twitter.

Opposition research or self-abuse?

63 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 7:57:23pm
64 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 7:57:54pm
65 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 7:58:37pm

66 BongCrodny  Jul 31, 2014 7:59:51pm

re: #42 Irving

Let’s give (paltry) credit where credit is due. She didn’t double down. She actually said “I’m sorry”, which I thought were words entirely banished from the Republican lexicon. And honestly, what else can you do but delete the tweets and apologize after that?

Of course, she really should have taken a little time to Google the event, but hey, baby steps.

As far as mea culpas go, it wasn’t the worst I’ve ever heard.

But what does “sorry” really mean when in all likelihood you’re going to do the same damn thing again the very next time the “Obama Is Evil” alarm clock goes off?

67 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 7:59:53pm

re: #63 Kragar

This is the real scandal. $2 billion in funding to beef up border security, hire more agents, deal with the humanitarian crisis occurring on our border fucking torpedoed by this plastic fuck Ted Cruz.

68 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:01:12pm

re: #65 jaunte

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Nuts.

69 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 8:01:47pm

This calls for some “Plastic People.”

Youtube Video

70 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:01:50pm

re: #65 jaunte

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71 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 8:03:25pm

re: #65 jaunte

Hey, remember when Lynne Cheney thought Mike Enzi was a RINO squish and tried to primary him? Good times.

72 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 8:04:49pm

re: #66 BongCrodny

As far as mea culpas go, it wasn’t the worst I’ve ever heard.

But what does “sorry” really mean when in all likelihood you’re going to do the same damn thing again the very next time the “Obama Is Evil” alarm clock goes off?

This will all be forgotten by noon, when Amanda posts her Youtube of Cruz dropping kittens in a Cuisinart.

73 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 8:05:13pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

This will all be forgotten by noon, when Amanda posts her Youtube of Cruz dropping kittens in a Cuisinart.

lol !!!

74 Tigger2  Jul 31, 2014 8:05:50pm

re: #55 RealityBasedSteve

Exactly. They are spring loaded that anything Obama does has to trigger an immediate and opposite counter action. This is a prime example of simply taking the “Obama did something” and we object to a whole new level where they don’t even have to know what he did.

These people disgust me

Could you imagine what they would do if Obama announce he was a Tea Party supporter. hehe

75 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 31, 2014 8:06:21pm

I’m outta here… he’s some Jonathan Coulton / Mike Spiff with
“Eat Your Brains” Enjoy…

Youtube Video

76 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 31, 2014 8:07:11pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

This will all be forgotten by noon, when Amanda posts her Youtube of Cruz dropping kittens in a Cuisinart.

The new GOP…. “Will it Blend?”

RBS

77 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:07:54pm
78 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:08:11pm
79 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 8:08:21pm

re: #64 Gus

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What do you wanna bet Maria Shriver called the White House and asked if they could use the space for the fund raiser? What do you wanna bet that Sasha and Malia were like {squeal}! when they found out that Katy Perry was going to sing?What do you wanna bet that Michelle lifted an ironic eyebrow? What do you wanna bet that Prexy chuckled and said “Sure”.

What a perfect venue for an absolutely wonderful organization, and for its athletes/beneficiaries. So sweet. So nice. So American.

Why is there anything wrong in this?

How can the Loyal Opposition turn it into something evil?

Sick fucking puppies, every one of them. There should be a new circle of hell for these mouth breathers.

80 BeachDem  Jul 31, 2014 8:08:35pm

re: #65 jaunte

And a few more—my, Enzi was certainly agreeable, wasn’t he?

81 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 8:12:00pm
82 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 8:13:59pm

Senator Mike Enzi (Whack-a-Doodle-WY), shows the US of A who’s the boss.

Well played, you obstructionist wad of pecker snot.

83 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 8:15:56pm

Mike Enzi is a Senator because 189,046 people voted for him. In a state smaller than my home county.

84 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 8:16:23pm

Less populous, rather.

85 Interesting Times  Jul 31, 2014 8:17:14pm

re: #82 austin_blue

Updinged for “obstructionist wad of pecker snot.”

86 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 8:19:10pm

re: #83 jaunte

Mike Enzi is a Senator because 189,046 people voted for him. In a state smaller than my home county.

Hey now, I’d be willing to bet not a whole lot of them voted for him in Teton County, what with all those skiers! :-D

87 Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2014 8:21:07pm

re: #77 Gus

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Of all the others, that is the appointment I would be the most worried about right now.

88 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 8:26:01pm

re: #85 Interesting Times

Updinged for “obstructionist wad of pecker snot.”

Sorry for my mood tonight. Money will have to be transferred from other vital programs so that refugee children and women can be fed and sheltered for the next month because of the inaction of the House today. It’s just so very petty and so very stupid.

It chaps my ass. Stupid white men.

89 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 8:27:22pm

I think I’m going to wait and see if Kristinn Taylor updates his evil fucking post before writing something about it.

I want to see if he’ll react to our little exchanges tonight.

90 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 8:30:47pm

The event was not open to the public.

PHOENIX (CBS5) -

CBS 5 Investigates rolled hidden cameras during a membership drive for one of the country’s most secretive and controversial organizations. Lobbyists and state lawmakers mingled over steaks and drinks in a private room at the Valley’s exclusive Donovan’s Steakhouse.

The American Legislative Exchange Council, or ALEC, put on the event. The organization advocates for limited government, federalism and free markets.
kpho.com

“free markets”

91 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 31, 2014 8:30:54pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

You may have a bit of a wait. I think this is when they change his spittle bucket.

92 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 8:33:21pm

re: #90 jaunte

The event was not open to the public.

“free markets”

Oh. Those fucks:

prwatch.org

93 ausador  Jul 31, 2014 8:38:34pm

Wonderful night out…

RWNJ Neighbor:
We need the voter ID laws to make sure things are one man, one vote. That is the way the founders meant it to be, why they modeled it after how it was done clear back in Roman times.

Me:
Romans never had individual votes, they were divided into five economic classes and the classes were divided into “centuries” of anything from 100 to 1000 or more people depending on the class and the population. The century you belonged to only got one vote by…

RWNJ Neighbor:
God, you people! (walks away)

Me:
Sigh…

94 Kilroy01  Jul 31, 2014 8:39:09pm

Totally off topic but may make everyone smile

Deadpool test footage

95 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:39:56pm

You should read some of the dumb responses.

96 austin_blue  Jul 31, 2014 8:41:12pm

re: #93 ausador

Wonderful night out…

RWNJ Neighbor:
We need the voter ID laws to make sure things are one man, one vote. That is the way the founders meant it to be, why they modeled it after how it was done clear back in Roman times.

Me:
Romans never had individual votes, they were divided into five economic classes and the classes were divided into “centuries” of anything from 100 to 1000 or more people depending on the class and the population. The century you belonged to only got one vote by…

RWNJ Neighbor:
God, you people! (walks away)

Me:
Sigh…

Good thing you didn’t mention that the Founding Fathers considered black people as 60% of a person when determining population for Congressional seats..

97 dog philosopher  Jul 31, 2014 8:42:19pm

re: #93 ausador

Wonderful night out…

RWNJ Neighbor:
We need the voter ID laws to make sure things are one man, one vote. That is the way the founders meant it to be, why they modeled it after how it was done clear back in Roman times.

Me:
Romans never had individual votes, they were divided into five economic classes and the classes were divided into “centuries” of anything from 100 to 1000 or more people depending on the class and the population. The century you belonged to only got one vote by…

RWNJ Neighbor:
God, you people! (walks away)

Me:
Sigh…

fellow history nerd upding

98 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 8:42:25pm

re: #93 ausador

Let me guess. They read the Bible. Daily. And it’s pretty much the only book they read.

99 jaunte  Jul 31, 2014 8:44:05pm

re: #93 ausador

God, you people and the way you try to spread history education around!!!

100 dog philosopher  Jul 31, 2014 8:44:08pm

re: #96 austin_blue

Good thing you didn’t mention that the Founding Fathers considered black people as 60% of a person when determining population for Congressional seats..

i want to start campaigning for True Biblical Marriage between One Man and As Many Women As He Can Afford To Marry

101 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 8:45:36pm

re: #93 ausador

Wonderful night out…

RWNJ Neighbor:
We need the voter ID laws to make sure things are one man, one vote. That is the way the founders meant it to be, why they modeled it after how it was done clear back in Roman times.

Me:
Romans never had individual votes, they were divided into five economic classes and the classes were divided into “centuries” of anything from 100 to 1000 or more people depending on the class and the population. The century you belonged to only got one vote by…

RWNJ Neighbor:
God, you people! (walks away)

Me:
Sigh…

If we handled things the way we did back in Roman times, the South would have been broken up and turned into new states managed by the Union soldiers.

102 dog philosopher  Jul 31, 2014 8:46:40pm

re: #96 austin_blue

Good thing you didn’t mention that the Founding Fathers considered black people as 60% of a person when determining population for Congressional seats..

also i should mention that property qualifications for voting were not abolished in the united states until the 1830s-40s, but then the RWNJ neighbor is probably against people without mortgages voting

103 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:48:26pm
104 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:50:32pm

Seriously. That’s a load of crap from Dermer. Fuck him and his wingnut party.

105 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 8:55:11pm

re: #104 Gus

A good lot of these fuckers want Jesus Christ to come back in their lifetimes via all that crazy shit in the Book of Revelation.

106 BeachDem  Jul 31, 2014 8:55:29pm

re: #101 Kragar

If we handled things the way we did back in Roman times, the South would have been broken up and turned into new states managed by the Union soldiers.

I do get some little perverse pleasure staying at the Clarion Hotel whenever I have to visit Columbia.

(sign reads—General George Sherman had his headquarters here during the Occupation of Columbia during the Civil War in February 1865)

107 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 8:57:20pm

re: #101 Kragar

If we handled things the way we did back in Roman times, the South would have been broken up and turned into new states managed by the Union soldiers.

Except Charleston. it would have been salted.

108 ausador  Jul 31, 2014 8:57:30pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

Let me guess. They read the Bible. Daily. And it’s pretty much the only book they read.

Don’t forget 5 or more hours daily of exposure to Fox. :(

109 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 8:59:30pm
110 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 9:01:23pm

re: #106 BeachDem

I do get some little perverse pleasure staying at the Clarion Hotel whenever I have to visit Columbia.

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(sign reads—General George Sherman had his headquarters here during the Occupation of Columbia during the Civil War in February 1865)

Whenever I was sent on Temporary Duty to Ft. Monroe, I would often park in Lt. Robert E. Lee’s quarters parking slot. He never uses it, and it’s right across the street from the artillery casement where Jefferson Davis was imprisoned.

111 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 9:02:36pm

re: #109 Gus

It’s getting pretty ugly.

112 The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 31, 2014 9:04:12pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

Let me guess. They read the Bible. Daily. And it’s pretty much the only book they read.

They just don’t absorb any of the parts about compassion, etc, etc.

113 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:04:14pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

It’s getting pretty ugly.

They’re starting to seriously piss me off. Where did Bibi form his cabinet? Breitbart?

114 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 9:04:27pm

“IF we did things like the Romans….”

Then Obama would have seized the assets of every business leader who stood against him, executed or banished them, then given every US citizen a share of the goods, while retaining a sizable portion to invest in public works and infrastructure.

But please, do tell your neighbor to continue.

115 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 9:05:42pm

re: #114 Kragar

“IF we did things like the Romans….”

Then Obama would have seized the assets of every business leader who stood against him, executed or banished them, then given every US citizen a share of the goods, while retaining a sizable portion to invest in public works and infrastructure.

But please, do tell your neighbor to continue.

Then he’d celebrate at parties with the most popular musicians of the day.

116 ausador  Jul 31, 2014 9:07:49pm

re: #101 Kragar

If we handled things the way we did back in Roman times, the South would have been broken up and turned into new states managed by the Union soldiers.

If we handled it the way the Romans would have almost all southern land would have been taken from its owners as punishment for disloyalty to the State and added to the “ager publicus.”

The land then would have been leased out to whoever could afford to bid the highest for its use. Want to talk about some “carpet bagging” that really would have been worth complaining about. ;)

117 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:08:04pm

I still support the Iron Dome and military aid to Israel. This kind of shit, well, it really tests me.

118 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 9:08:19pm

“IF we did things like the Romans….”

Politicians would need to have performed actual military service of some sort before achieving senior positions, and foreigners would have a guaranteed path to citizenship if they served in our military.

119 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:09:32pm

I now have the top 2 most Tweeted articles. Guess I’m going to Disneyland! //

120 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:10:39pm

But, I’m glad that Pres. Obama doesn’t succumb to that bologna.

121 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:16:37pm
122 Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2014 9:19:48pm

re: #118 Kragar

“IF we did things like the Romans….”

Politicians would need to have performed actual military service of some sort before achieving senior positions, and foreigners would have a guaranteed path to citizenship if they served in our military.

And we would build a big wall between us and the barbarians on the frontier. No.. wait.

123 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:19:50pm

Apparently the stupid wingnuts haven’t been looking at the response from the Western far-left WRT the POTUS’s position on Israel support and aid. Morons.

124 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:20:00pm

re: #121 Gus

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Can you imagine the reaction if Obama did that? It would be the “proof” they’ve wanted that Obama is a secret Hamas sympathizer. Really, Bibi and his government and his American wingnut friends are really not helping the situation at all. Bibi really screwed the pooch big time by making Avigdor Lieberman his foreign minister. It’s honestly the equivalent if our president had made someone like John Bolton SoS which I have no doubt would seriously have been considered had Romney won.

125 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:24:45pm
126 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:25:33pm

What this story tells me is that Cruz and his staff actively look at reasons to get upset at the Obama administration. Katy Perry concert at the WH. Oh I can’t be bothered to look at why that may be happening. I have to channel up the fake outrage because my boss is a pathetic little turd whose only real ideology is that he hates President Obama and wants to ride that all the way to the Republican nomination in 2016 and god forbid the White House himself. Maybe if Cruz actually had a real ideology, this kind of thing wouldn’t happen but nope he and his people have to just focus on anti-Obama hatred that they’re willing to spit on a concert for the Special Olympics and they don’t even have the decency to admit that they fucked up, they just delete the tweets and act like nothing happened.

127 Gus  Jul 31, 2014 9:26:15pm
128 Shiplord Kirel  Jul 31, 2014 9:29:10pm

re: #114 Kragar

“IF we did things like the Romans….”

Then Obama would have seized the assets of every business leader who stood against him, executed or banished them, then given every US citizen a share of the goods, while retaining a sizable portion to invest in public works and infrastructure.

But please, do tell your neighbor to continue.

“CRUCIFY THEM!”

129 bubba zanetti  Jul 31, 2014 9:29:20pm
130 ausador  Jul 31, 2014 9:29:20pm

The Republican meeting in the basement of the House today left telltale evidence of their reasoning process behind….

Life Lesson From Boehner?

///

131 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:32:00pm

re: #129 bubba zanetti

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Wonder how Ben Shapiro is going to explain his book then since the book is literally titled I believe The People Versus Barack Obama, The Case For Impeachment. These guys just can’t help themselves. They think they can stir up anti-Obama hatred to get votes but they don’t have to deal with the political blowback of being complete jackasses.

132 Mike Lamb  Jul 31, 2014 9:32:26pm

At what point is the Senate going to completely overhaul its rules so that one dickhole can’t derail important issues? I understand we are talking about 100 egomaniacs that want all power to be available to them whenever they might need it, but come the fuck on. One guy that got elected with only slightly more votes than the homecoming queen at a big high school is severely handicapping foreign policy…

133 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:34:51pm

re: #132 Mike Lamb

At what point is the Seante going to completely overhaul its rules so that one dickhole can’t derail important issues? I understand we are talking about 100 egomaniacs that want all power to be available to them whenever they might need it, but come the fuck on. One guy that got elected with only slightly more votes than the homecoming queen at a big high school is severely handicapping foreign policy…

I am almost to the point where I wouldn’t complain if he got censured a la McCarthy. That is exactly who he is acting like but even the real McCarthy pretended to be a somewhat reasonable member of the Senate for four years before he decided to go all out nutjob. I really really hope that the Texas Democratic Party has a serious challenge in mind for this guy come 2018. He’s a disgrace. No real principles. He just rides on the hatred that he and his fellow asshole Republicans have for Obama. He has no real solutions. I look forward to him being exposed as a fraud when he runs for president.

134 Mike Lamb  Jul 31, 2014 9:36:12pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

I am almost to the point where I wouldn’t complain if he got censured a la McCarthy. That is exactly who he is acting like but even the real McCarthy pretended to be a somewhat reasonable member of the Senate for four years before he decided to go all out nutjob. I really really hope that the Texas Democratic Party has a serious challenge in mind for this guy come 2018. He’s a disgrace. No real principles. He just rides on the hatred that he and his fellow asshole Republicans have for Obama. He has no real solutions. I look forward to him being exposed as a fraud when he runs for president.

In this instance, I was talking about Enzi from upthread. I can understand the confusion though…

135 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:37:20pm

re: #134 Mike Lamb

In this instance, I was talking about Enzi from upthread. I can understand the confusion though…

Oops sorry. That’s actually my fault not yours since I should have gotten your less votes than the homecoming queen point to mean you were obviously talking about a guy from a small state- in this case the smallest in regards to population.

136 Mike Lamb  Jul 31, 2014 9:39:26pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Oops sorry. That’s actually my fault not yours since I should have gotten your less votes than the homecoming queen point to mean you were obviously talking about a guy from a small state- in this case the smallest in regards to population.

Like I said, it’s easy to get confused…can’t tell an asshole from Texas from a colostomy bag in Wyoming without a program…

137 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:41:38pm

re: #136 Mike Lamb

Like I said, it’s easy to get confused…can’t tell an asshole from Texas from a colostomy bag in Wyoming without a program…

Certainly. I’m getting fed up with this. The Dems and Obama may not be perfect but at least they’re proposing something. What does the GOP want? The same failed policies that got us into the economic mess in 2008 in the fisrst place along with reactionary policies on social issues that would make the Ayatollah Khomeini blush.

138 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 9:42:12pm

What. The. Fuck.

Published on Jul 31, 2014
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu embraces Pastor John Hagee, blood moon conspiracy theorist and End Times activist. Video clipped from Christians United for Israel conference and Christian TV. Uploaded by @LHFANG

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139 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:45:48pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

What. The. Fuck.

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That’s even more messed up than his association with Beck. Even Beck hasn’t said the messed up things about Jews and the Holocaust that Hagee has.

140 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 9:46:23pm

The Nancy Pelosi lie continues to spread.

141 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:47:04pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

The Nancy Pelosi lie continues to spread.

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Thanks Horowitz, you pathetic useless fuck.

142 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 9:49:37pm

No, the full context does not make it worse. Argh. Why are conservatives so fucking dense.

143 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 9:50:00pm

This gets very wearying.

144 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 31, 2014 9:52:17pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

It is my contention that the hallmark of modern day conservatives is their devotion to making shit up and then getting angry about it.

145 Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2014 9:52:47pm
146 HappyWarrior  Jul 31, 2014 9:54:11pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

No, the full context does not make it worse. Argh. Why are conservatives so fucking dense.

Because Charles, conservatives will believe anything as long as it’s making a liberal or someone they despise look bad. It doesn’t have to be true or even close to true, it just has to smear a liberal. So Pelosi who is far from a Hamas apologist as you can find in Congress is smeared because David Horowitz hates her and the conservative morons on Twitter eat it up because they want to believe the worst about her. We saw it when that asshole Breitbart tried to make Shirley Sherrod look like a bigot. We saw it when that bastard O’Keefe made it look like ACORN was okay with prostitution. They’re okay with ruining people simply because they dislike their political beliefs. They don’t care if someone is ruined or worse in this case someone who could be Speaker of the House again someday is seen wrongly as being a Hamas apologist. These are really messed up people.

147 BeachDem  Jul 31, 2014 10:20:39pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Because Charles, conservatives will believe anything as long as it’s making a liberal or someone they despise look bad. It doesn’t have to be true or even close to true, it just has to smear a liberal. So Pelosi who is far from a Hamas apologist as you can find in Congress is smeared because David Horowitz hates her and the conservative morons on Twitter eat it up because they want to believe the worst about her. We saw it when that asshole Breitbart tried to make Shirley Sherrod look like a bigot. We saw it when that bastard O’Keefe made it look like ACORN was okay with prostitution. They’re okay with ruining people simply because they dislike their political beliefs. They don’t care if someone is ruined or worse in this case someone who could be Speaker of the House again someday is seen wrongly as being a Hamas apologist. These are really messed up people.

I’ll go you one further. They don’t even have to dislike someone’s political beliefs. They just have to see any opening to stir up the rage and nastiness of their followers, who are legion.

As in the case with Nancy Pelosi—they don’t have clue fucking one about her beliefs about Israel or Jewish people or Hamas or probably anything else. But they have pigs like Horowitz and Dim Jim and clowns like Todd Kincannon spewing shit about her endlessly, so they just pile on and raise the volume.

They make me ill.

148 teleskiguy  Jul 31, 2014 10:29:54pm
149 The War TARDIS  Jul 31, 2014 10:33:38pm

Oh boy, Twitter is about to go for shitstorm.

150 The War TARDIS  Jul 31, 2014 10:40:36pm

Everybody remember that x-rated picture that an intern put on the airline’s twitter in response to a complaint some months back?

A way worse version happened recently. This guy found it.

151 Kragar  Jul 31, 2014 11:33:08pm

re: #150 The War TARDIS

Everybody remember that x-rated picture that an intern put on the airline’s twitter in response to a complaint some months back?

A way worse version happened recently. This guy found it.

Well now, that was off putting.

Did investigative work on emails back in my USMC days. We would get authorization to open people’s mailboxes to determine if they were being used for official business, UCMJ investigations, etc. Saw a lot of freaky shit and saw a lot of people fuck up their careeers.

This tweet wasn’t the worst thing I ever saw, but it ranked right up there

152 klys  Aug 1, 2014 1:14:40am

re: #151 Kragar

Well now, that was off putting.

Did investigative work on emails back in my USMC days. We would get authorization to open people’s mailboxes to determine if they were being used for official business, UCMJ investigations, etc. Saw a lot of freaky shit and saw a lot of people fuck up their careeers.

This tweet wasn’t the worst thing I ever saw, but it ranked right up there

Thanks for taking one for the team.

I’m not looking.

153 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 1:26:25am

re: #140 Charles Johnson

The Nancy Pelosi lie continues to spread.

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Tom Nichols is a douchecanoe.

154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 1:27:17am

re: #140 Charles Johnson

The Nancy Pelosi lie continues to spread.

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These people are in service to the Higher Truths, and these include the fact that Obama and his minions hate America almost as much as they hate Israel.

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155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 1:35:30am

Mike Enzi is a fifth-columnist scum. /

156 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 1:37:25am

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Mike Enzi is a fifth-columnist scum. /

Jes’ kidding, he’s merely a usual conservative attention whore.

157 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 1:55:01am

re: #156 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Jes’ kidding, he’s merely a usual conservative attention whore.

The GOP has lost control…every politician knows that a bit of obstructionism can be a useful political tactic, as is a bit of outrage, but the TPGOP have simply made those into their trademarks

158 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 2:10:22am

Pageworthy, but I do not page: Russia enacts ‘draconian’ law for bloggers and online media

159 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 3:02:49am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Russia is still proto-fascist, but approaches the full scale neo-fascism rather quickly.

160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 3:04:05am

re: #159 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Russia is still proto-fascist, but approaches the full scale neo-fascism rather quickly.

I stick with my theory that people like Putin simply let chaos reign there throughout the 90’s so that the people would welcome a strong authoritarian, Orthodox leader.

161 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 3:07:54am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I stick with my theory that people like Putin simply let chaos reign there throughout the 90’s so that the people would welcome a strong authoritarian, Orthodox leader.

It’s not a theory, it’s a fantasy not only not based on facts, but simply contrary to them.

162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 3:22:01am

re: #161 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s not a theory, it’s a fantasy not only not based on facts, but simply contrary to them.

I lived in Russia in the early 90’s and saw the everyday chaos that people were subjected to. It was appalling.

I can accept that the political elites at the time were not in a position to do anything about it, but people at the middle echelon like Putin certainly saw their opportunity in it and did nothing to alleviate the chaos.

163 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 3:22:18am

re: #161 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s not a theory, it’s a fantasy not only not based on facts, but simply contrary to them.

Do you know of any good English-language analysis of Russia’s path from the fall of the USSR to where we are now?

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 3:23:22am

aka “The Road to Nowhere”?

165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 3:46:53am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I lived in Russia in the early 90’s and saw the everyday chaos that people were subjected to. It was appalling.

I can accept that the political elites at the time were not in a position to do anything about it, but people at the middle echelon like Putin certainly saw their opportunity in it and did nothing to alleviate the chaos.

Even if one accepts your premises, your conclusion still doesn’t follow. Maybe they did nothing because they were a part of the chaos, money-hungry opportunists? Putin surely was such guy. Look up the corruption scandals in SPb when he was being accused by Marina Salye and others of basically stealing.

Your claim does not make sense because 1. the people who were making decisions back then are not the people who are in power now. Putin would have remained a nobody if not for Sobchak (a democrat), who supported the promising young guy despite his KGB past when he had nowhere else to go.

2. Because the people who are in power now were “determined”/”chosen” by many historical contingencies, not through any plan, much less a long range one. Everything could have been very different. Or even the same, but with entirely different personages.

3. Because the Russian history in the 1990s didn’t work acc. to any plan, nobody even suspected in 1990 what would happen in 1992, much less 10-20 years later. Nobody in his right mind could have had such a plan back then.

This claim might be good for a Chuck Norris joke, but it simply doesn’t work with the people and circumstances as they were in the 90s.

166 Teukka  Aug 1, 2014 3:49:14am

re: #159 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Russia is still proto-fascist, but approaches the full scale neo-fascism rather quickly.

Just my €.02 worth, but I think that Russia (well, at least the people in control there) sadly is past the border of being fascistic proper.

167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 3:50:46am

re: #166 Teukka

I would say that this opinion is within the margin of error ;)

168 Teukka  Aug 1, 2014 3:52:24am

re: #167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I would say that this opinion is within the margin of error ;)

Then again, I come from a country which paid through its nose for siding with the Nazis, and where many of my generation and older were raised to avoid the shit with a wide margin.

169 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 3:55:06am

re: #163 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Do you know of any good English-language analysis of Russia’s path from the fall of the USSR to where we are now?

Nope. Rudolf Pikhoya has written some really valuable books, summarizing the period 1945-2005 (with the 2000-2005 part being very weak, but with a great summary of the fall of USSR and the causes leading to it). But I don’t think any of them have been translated.

170 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 3:57:31am

I mean, I’m sure there are good Eng-lang books on the topic, I just never bothered to look for those.

171 Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2014 4:11:15am

Some good news; Uganda’s anti-homosexuality law - the most recent one - was struck down by the Constitutional Court there on a technicality. Apparently, the law was passed without a quorum.

Human rights activists say they expect politicians like the bill’s sponsor, MP David Bahati, to try to pass it again, but they think the chances he’ll succeed are slim. Re-passing the law would require starting the legislative process from the beginning, including committee hearings and receiving certification of its financial impact from the finance ministry. If the government of President Yoweri Museveni does not want the bill to pass again, the finance ministry could silently kill the bill simply by withholding certification.

“Someone will try,” said Nicholas Opiyo, one of the attorneys who argued against the law before the Constitutional Court. “I don’t think it will come back immediately. It will take some time. But the dynamics here change quite rapidly and it might not come back at all.”

The speed with which the court moved to reach a ruling had many speculating that it was acting on orders from Museveni to dispose of the legislation. The court wasn’t scheduled to take up the challenge to the law until September, but then abruptly announced last week that it would begin hearings this Wednesday. It began hearing arguments despite the objections of the representative of the attorney general, Patricia Mutesi, who may still appeal the order to proceed to the Supreme Court. But if political pressure had been put on the court to strike down the law, the same pressure could likely be used to get the attorney general’s office to quietly drop its efforts to uphold the law.

buzzfeed.com

172 Romantic Heretic  Aug 1, 2014 4:16:38am

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Katy Perry is appropriating Ted Cruz’ cojones.

No need to worry. Ted has Boehner’s balls as a replacement.

173 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 4:21:21am

This movie is a bit surrealistic, as well as pretty entertaining take on what happened in the 1990s :)

Youtube Video

174 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:22:30am

Well shitfire.

Hamas blew the ceasefire by kidnapping an Israeli soldier. Gaza is so fucked now.

I was listening to CNN, they were interviewing Gershon Baskin. GERSHON FUCKING BASKIN an Israeli “journalist” (op-ed writer), a self-promoter like Glenn Greenwald, who has NO AUTHORITY within the Israeli government, who has as much authority as Neturei Karta, but who claims to be BFF’s with Hamas and also takes credit for the return of Gilad Shalit even though—repeat—HE HAS NO AUTHORITY WITHIN THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT TO NEGOTIATE A SHOELACE.

Shit is fucked up. I has a rage.

*SETS DESK ON FIRE*

175 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:28:28am

shit shit shit

176 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:29:58am
177 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:40:21am
178 Romantic Heretic  Aug 1, 2014 4:44:56am

re: #95 Gus

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You should read some of the dumb responses.

It’s too early in the morning to be reminded of George Carlin’s aphorism, “You know how stupid the average person is? Well, by definition half of them are stupider than that.”

179 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 4:50:58am

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

Great job ratfucking the ceasefire, Hamas.

I’ve been very critical of Israel’s conduct during this operation but this is just absolutely fucking mindblowingly stupid on Hamas’s part.

180 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 4:51:41am

The one thin hope is that it wasn’t Hamas who did it and that Hamas condemns it, which is really fucking unlikely.

181 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:52:10am
182 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:54:18am

re: #180 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The one thin hope is that it wasn’t Hamas who did it and that Hamas condemns it, which is really fucking unlikely.

In the CNN interview Gershon Baskin could hardly contain his glee, he said they were cheering and handing out candy in Gaza, and HURR HURR The Gaza people will continue to fight for freedom and dignity!

What an asshole, I don’t why CNN even gives him a bullhorn but he’s a very aggressive self-promoter, like Greenwald.

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 4:57:46am

So, the cease-fire lasted for what, an hour?

I’m not even going to look for how the Hamas-apologists are going to spin this as the IDF’s fault.

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 4:59:49am
185 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 4:59:56am

Good morning Lizards. Given this morning’s news already it might be time to just submerge into work and simply go home and go back to bed.

(Weather is overcast, 70s F, and chance of rain for most of the afternoon.)

Have worked out rough route for end of August vacation. Looks like 2,400 miles of driving.

187 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:00:16am

re: #183 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve checked around, and so far all I’ve seen was a claim that the prisoner was taken before the ceasefire.

Reason why this doesn’t matter: Even if true, Hamas would know this would ratfuck the ceasefire. It was still an event that would nullify the ceasefire, and they knew it.

THe only other excuses are the metaphysical ones, basically that Hamas et al. are no longer rational actors after having been oppressed for so long.

188 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:01:29am

re: #183 Feline Fearless Leader

So, the cease-fire lasted for what, an hour?

I’m not even going to look for how the Hamas-apologists are going to spin this as the IDF’s fault.

189 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 5:02:49am

re: #184 Pie-onist Overlord

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This is bad. Fucking terrorist bastards.

190 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:04:32am

If Hamas wants to claim that it’s capturing POWs, it will need to treat prisoners like POWs, which it doesn’t.

191 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 5:05:31am

re: #187 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I’ve checked around, and so far all I’ve seen was a claim that the prisoner was taken before the ceasefire.

Reason why this doesn’t matter: Even if true, Hamas would know this would ratfuck the ceasefire. It was still an event that would nullify the ceasefire, and they knew it.

THe only other excuses are the metaphysical ones, basically that Hamas et al. are no longer rational actors after having been oppressed for so long.

CNN is running an under picture banner with the IDF saying that there was a suicide bomber attack less than a hour after the seize fire was supposed to have started. Though if there was a kidnapping of a soldier just before the seize fire that pretty much would kibosh it as well.

192 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 5:08:50am

When I made the remark last night that I didn’t expect the ceasefire to last long, I didn’t expect it would under 2 hours before it was shredded. Yegods.

193 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:10:28am

re: #191 Feline Fearless Leader

CNN is running an under picture banner with the IDF saying that there was a suicide bomber attack less than a hour after the seize fire was supposed to have started. Though if there was a kidnapping of a soldier just before the seize fire that pretty much would kibosh it as well.

Those are related events.

The Hamas timeline says this attack happened at 7, before the ceasefire. Which is possible, but still basically irrelevant because they’d know that it would fuck over the ceasefire. There are some events that, if you do them right before a ceasefire, are obviously going to bust it. If Israel had rocketed a bunch of Hamas officials right before the ceasefire, nobody would think Hamas should keep to the ceasefire. Likewise, Hamas kidnapping an Israeli soldier right before the ceasefire.

The Israeli timeline says the attack happened at 9:30. If that’s true, this was after the ceasefire.

But again, it really doesn’t matter: Taking actions right before a ceasefire of this magnitude shows no commitment to actual peace, just a kind of rules-lawyering that’s despicable.

194 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:10:47am

re: #192 Targetpractice

When I made the remark last night that I didn’t expect the ceasefire to last long, I didn’t expect it would under 2 hours before it was shredded. Yegods.

Or, if Hamas did this right before the ceasefire, -1 hours.

195 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:14:00am

I haven’t seen any gloating other than from Glenn Greenwald, but then, I’ve blocked most of the usual suspects.

196 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 5:14:04am
197 b.d.  Aug 1, 2014 5:14:34am

re: #188 Pie-onist Overlord

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Can you capture a soldier during a cease fire? What if they try and resist capture? You can’t shoot him, there’s a cease fire.

198 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:14:53am

re: #197 b.d.

Can you capture a soldier during a cease fire? What if they try and resist capture? You can’t shoot him, there’s a cease fire.

Oh they shot a bunch of soldiers too.

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:16:10am
200 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:19:27am
201 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 5:20:11am

re: #199 Pie-onist Overlord

Typical GG. Doesn’t want to recognize that if the West Bank and the Gaza Strip want to be treated like sovereign nations — they have to start acting like one. Or, and he’ll probably say, they are one that Israel fails to recognize, then they are open to getting invaded since they have been launching rockets and attacking an adjacent nation.

It’s still a mess. But you can’t start making those sorts of claims without applying the full set of intentional conventions to *both* sides.

202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 5:23:12am

re: #165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Your claim does not make sense because 1. the people who were making decisions back then are not the people who are in power now. Putin would have remained a nobody if not for Sobchak (a democrat), who supported the promising young guy despite his KGB past when he had nowhere else to go.

People like Putin were not the ones in power back then, they were the low-level operatives in charge of implementing policy.

They saw their chance: when the leaders declared a putsch against Gorbachev, people like Putin said “Yes sir, we will obey orders!”.
The sclerotic, mummy-brained leaders, not used to anything else, assumed that their orders would be carried out without question.

But the lower-echelon people saw which way the wind was blowing and quietly let the upper-echelon leaders make fools of themselves.

The chaos that followed allowed the lower ranks to consolidate their power.

In 1992, I recall asking a colleague, a low-ranking member of the Communist Party, why he did not give up his party card, as his party was clearly consigned to the scrap-heap of history.

He gave me a steely-eyed stare worthy of Putin and simply said “Myi pobedim”. (We will triumph)

Now I know what he meant.

203 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 5:24:09am

re: #174 Pie-onist Overlord

Well shitfire.

Hamas blew the ceasefire by kidnapping an Israeli soldier. Gaza is so fucked now.

cynics win

204 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 5:31:05am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

People like Putin were not the ones in power back then

Exactly, which is why your fantastic claim doesn’t make sense.

But the lower echelon people saw which way the wind was blowing and quietly let the upper-echelon leaders make fools of themselves.

Except, of course, as we’ve already established, they weren’t in power to decide anything, so saying that they “let” anyone do anything is like saying that you and I “let” Obama do his thing. Yeah, we do. Not that anyone asked us.

205 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:33:02am

re: #204 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Right now I’m letting Rand Paul make a fool of himself so I can seize power later.

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 5:33:54am

re: #199 Pie-onist Overlord

So, GG doesn’t think that Hamas are “terrorists”…

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 5:41:46am

re: #204 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Exactly, which is why your fantastic claim doesn’t make sense.

Except, of course, as we’ve already established, they weren’t in power to decide anything, so saying that they “let” anyone do anything is like saying that you and I “let” Obama do his thing. Yeah, we do. Not that anyone asked us.

Like I said, their job was to implement policy, or to decide when it was time not to. Party leaders were not used to the notion of underlings not obeying orders without question. It was the underlings’ selective inaction that struck me most of all.

The Soviet union was allowed to fall apart, no provision was made for new passports, currency or official documents (I still had a Soviet visa in March 1992) and little effort was made to resolve issues of infrastructure or assets, or the rights of Russians living outside the Russian Republic

Because to do so then would have left Russia at a great disadvantage. Twenty years later, they have a lot more leverage.

208 Mike Lamb  Aug 1, 2014 5:42:24am

Ok Glenn…the soldier was “captured” during an agreed upon cease fire the terms of which were being honored by Israel. Feel better? Now tell ,e how your semantic bullshit changes anything.

209 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 5:42:44am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You do realize you’re talking to a Russian, right?

210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 5:44:23am

re: #209 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You do realize you’re talking to a Russian, right?

Yes, and voicing my opinion on the matter. I was there in the early 90’s and my brains simply could not comprehend the level of chaps that dominated there…I could not help but see some sort of method behind the madness.

211 b.d.  Aug 1, 2014 5:45:38am

re: #208 Mike Lamb

Ok Glenn…the soldier was “captured” during an agreed upon cease fire the terms of which were being honored by Israel. Feel better? Now tell ,e how your semantic bullshit changes anything.

A soldier who if fired upon the people trying to capture him would have broken a cease fire thus inciting another outrage. Pretty sorry.

212 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:46:52am

re: #211 b.d.

A soldier who if fired upon the people trying to capture him would have broken a cease fire thus inciting another outrage. Pretty sorry.

Hamas killed 2 other soldiers in a suicide bombing as a distraction while they kidnapped another.

213 A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2014 5:48:47am

Every couple of years Jon Stewart hosts “A Night of Too Many Stars” to raise money for various programs for autistic people and their families. The last one featured Katy Perry singing with a little autistic girl who is a piano prodigy who idolizes her. They did the song Firework (it’s on You Tube, go watch it and keep a box of Kleenex handy, it’ll make you cry). I’m not a fan of her music, but I like HER. I think she’s genuinely goodhearted. Unlike say, that Beiber thing who has all the talent of a pecan.

So now that this shit has been thrown and the usual suspects have picked it up, how long will it be before Special Olympics gets harassed and pecked apart by these assholes? We know Hoft never retracts anything, so it’s going to make it around the usual cesspool. These people are disgusting.

214 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:49:56am

re: #213 A Mom Anon

Unlike say, that Beiber thing who has all the talent of a pecan.

Pecan pie kicks ass. A Bieber pie would taste like ass.

215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 5:50:41am

re: #213 A Mom Anon

So now that this shit has been thrown and the usual suspects have picked it up, how long will it be before Special Olympics gets harassed and pecked apart by these assholes? We know Hoft never retracts anything, so it’s going to make it around the usual cesspool. These people are disgusting.

I assume that the talking point will be that the liberals are exploiting those poor handicapped kids to promote their own political agenda.

216 A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2014 5:55:21am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, that agenda being actually giving a damn about people with disabilities and not shoving them into corners where no one has to be reminded they exist. Oh the horror.////

Hey assholes, if you aren’t really heartless douchebags, prove it and donate some money to Special Olympics. I won’t be holding my breath, but since you LIVE to prove liberals wrong, prove me wrong and donate. Jerks.

217 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 5:56:03am
218 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 6:03:32am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Like I said, their job was to implement policy, or to decide when it was time not to. Party leaders were not used to the notion of underlings not obeying orders without question. It was the underlings’ selective inaction that struck me most of all.

The Soviet union was allowed to fall apart, no provision was made for new passports, currency or official documents (I still had a Soviet visa in March 1992) and little effort was made to resolve issues of infrastructure or assets, or the rights of Russians living outside the Russian Republic

Because to do so then would have left Russia at a great disadvantage. Twenty years later, they have a lot more leverage.

To me, the breakup of the Soviet Union and its attendant decay appears to have been exactly what you might expect from the collapse of a totalitarian (albeit one making attempts to liberalise) government. Without even the very appearance of a monolithic power structure and with the country now effectively split into bureaus vying for influence, wealth and outright power, the question of the ex-Soviets and the status of Russians living there must’ve taken a back seat. Perhaps the only conscious decision made to not contest the issues you raise is that the state lacked the power to project its designs. Plus the degradation of civil society might more be considered a sign of public exhaustion at living under a dysfunctional apparatus suddenly finding itself being led by officials who no longer had the same prestige and now lacked direction as well.
Maybe Russia now has some kind of leverage within its old sphere of influence due to the unresolved issues of the ’90s but they look rather incidental and Putin, I’d consider more of a product than an engineer.
My ignorance wins out here, I’m afraid but that’s my take.

219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 6:07:59am

re: #218 Alyosha

Maybe Russia now has some kind of leverage within its old sphere of influence due to the unresolved issues of the ’90s but they look rather incidental and Putin, I’d consider more of a product than an engineer.

People who understood how modern media work and who saw their chance.

I also recall talking to a journalist who said he supported the anti-Gorbachev putsch because he thought it would have been better than the complete chaos that followed.

And especially for the old people and pensioners who were not in a position to change and adapt and take advantage of the new opportunities, it was a terrible time.

220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 6:08:09am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Sorry, I’m not disposed to discuss hive-mind theories at any length.

221 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:08:45am

Waiting for someone to call on Israel to show restraint after the kidnapping.

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 6:11:28am

re: #220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sorry, I’m not disposed to discuss hive-mind theories at any length.

I just could not get my mind around the level of chaos that came about with the collapse of the USSR.

Either the society was that truly rotten that the only thing holding it together was fear of reprisal, or there were people (albeit at a low level at the time) taking advantage of the situation and consolidating their positions.

Flip side is that I was living there without a residence permit, renting a furnished two-room apartment near the Tushino metro station (a rather nice neighborhood) for $100 a month.

223 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:12:24am

re: #221 NJDhockeyfan

Waiting for someone to call on Israel to show restraint after the kidnapping.

What do you mean by ‘restraint’?

224 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 6:13:36am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That describes an opportunistic individual with influence and ambition, not a golden-child carried aloft to the Kremlin by the masses and upper echelons to carry out some dormant imperial scheme.

225 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:15:52am

re: #223 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

What do you mean by ‘restraint’?

Good question. Happens alot after Israel is attacked. Someone always calls on Israel to show restraint and many times without showing any outrage of the terrorist attacks.

226 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:16:01am
227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 6:18:41am
228 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:24:01am
229 Roger S  Aug 1, 2014 6:24:30am

At least she admitted the mistake and apologized. Better than most wingnuts.

230 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 6:24:41am

Crazy lady says what?

Ann Coulter: Why can’t we deal with our border the way Netanyahu deals with Hamas?

“We need a Netanyahu here. Can you imagine all these — yes, sometimes Palestinian kids get killed, ” she said as she began to laugh. “That’s because they are, they’re associated with a terrorist organization that is harming Israel, and Netanyahu doesn’t care what the religious leaders say, weeping about Palestinian children. He doesn’t care what the UN says. He doesn’t care what the media says.”

She concludes, “We are a country, we have borders, and Netanyahu enforces them. Why can’t we do that in America?”

Maybe because: 1) Mexico is a sovereign nation and bombing the border would be seen as an act of war, and 2) not everyone who comes here illegally is from Mexico?

Also, STFU Ann.

231 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 6:25:36am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I just could not get my mind around the level of chaos that came about with the collapse of the USSR.

Expected immediate outcome: chaos and corruption.
Unexpected immediate outcome: order and affluence.

You were surprised about an expected outcome?

232 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:26:33am

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Good question. Happens alot after Israel is attacked. Someone always calls on Israel to show restraint and many times without showing any outrage of the terrorist attacks.

If it’s a good question, why aren’t you answering it?

233 darthstar  Aug 1, 2014 6:27:13am

Wow…Uganda’s high court killed the Kill the Gays bill.

234 darthstar  Aug 1, 2014 6:28:23am
235 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 6:28:25am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Weird. Not that JDL shouldn’t be banned, but it’s like not seeing an elephant in the room, chasing a small dog instead. They should put pressure on various antisemitic Islamist and Christianist groups first. The ones that cause pogroms.

236 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 6:28:28am
237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 6:31:30am

re: #231 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Expected immediate outcome: chaos and corruption.
Unexpected immediate outcome: order and affluence.

You were surprised about an expected outcome?

I guess I am not Russian enough to get my head around it, I keep using logic.

238 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 6:31:56am

re: #230 Lidane

Crazy lady says what?

Ann Coulter: Why can’t we deal with our border the way Netanyahu deals with Hamas?

Maybe because: 1) Mexico is a sovereign nation and bombing the border would be seen as an act of war, and 2) not everyone who comes here illegally is from Mexico?

Also, STFU Ann.

She does realize that Netanyahu’s getting away with a lot of this shit because Hamas is firing rockets into Israel and shooting at Israeli soldiers, right? If this were a matter of Palestinians trying to sneak through the Israeli border to attain citizenship, does she really believe the world would agree that blowing the bejesus out of Gaza was a valid response?

239 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 6:32:47am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I guess I am not Russian enough to get my head around it, I keep using logic.

Except logic predicts chaos and corruption.

240 Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2014 6:33:30am

re: #235 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Weird. Not that JDL shouldn’t be banned, but it’s like not seeing an elephant in the room, chasing a small dog instead. They should put pressure on various antisemitic Islamist and Christianist groups first. The ones that cause pogroms.

If I’m not mistaken, the JDL - along with Kach and Kahane Chai - is banned in Israel. It’s considered a terrorist organization in the US, at least, and in the EU as well.

241 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 1, 2014 6:33:55am

re: #212 Pie-onist Overlord

Hamas killed 2 other soldiers in a suicide bombing as a distraction while they kidnapped another.

Hamas, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or one of the other factions within Gaza? While the end result is the same it is worth considering that Hamas isn’t the only group in Gaza with armed fighters. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad has an agenda that includes pushing Hamas into confrontation with Israel as often as possible. I think that it’s also worth considering that Hamas’ leadership would be unlikely to negotiate a cease fire while simultaneously ordering actions that would immediately undo it. I am not in the least an apologist for Hamas. Hamas, like every other organization that has risen to govern the Palestinians, is largely reprehensible.

Both sides in the conflict are acting out the end of long series of very bad decisions stretching all the way back to the Ottoman Empire’s decision to ally itself with the Central Powers in WWI. That series of bad decisions has left neither side with sufficient will to enact a just and equable peace. I reserve my sympathy for those on both sides who are caught up in events beyond their control.

242 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:34:04am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I guess I am not Russian enough to get my head around it, I keep using logic.

Logic says after a state fails, chaos will be the result, not order. You’ve got it backwards.

243 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 6:36:10am

re: #239 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Except logic predicts chaos and corruption.

Especially considering the Communist regime’s autocratic rule was in some ways a continuation of the monarchy. What happens to a society steeped in that much social control when the rulers are deposed and not adequately replaced?

244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 6:37:07am

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

If I’m not mistaken, the JDL - along with Kach and Kahane Chai - is banned in Israel. It’s considered a terrorist organization in the US, at least, and in the EU as well.

Absolutely. Kahanism is a form of neo-fascism. But I doubt that JDL is such a threat in France, of all places. And the only reason it gains following is the pathetic inability of the govt. to protect the French Jews from fanatical lynch mobs. So maybe deal with the mobs first?

245 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:37:56am
246 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:37:57am

re: #244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Absolutely. Kahanism is a form of neo-fascism. But I doubt that JDL is such a threat in France, of all places. And the only reason it gains following is the pathetic inability of the govt. to protect the French Jews from fanatical lynch mobs. So maybe deal with the mobs first?

It also hints at blaming Jews for fomenting trouble, and by selecting them to go after, portrays the JDL as more violent than the others.

247 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:38:31am

re: #245 NJDhockeyfan

Let me put it another way, since you’re apparently committed to not answering the previous question:

Do you think Israel should be completely unrestrained in it’s response to this kidnapping?

248 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 6:40:27am

re: #241 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Hamas, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad

In this instance it doesn’t much matter, as both those groups are/were supposed to be signatories of the truce and attendees at the conference in Egypt today to try to find ways to extend the cease fire

249 Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2014 6:41:02am

re: #244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Absolutely. Kahanism is a form of neo-fascism. But I doubt that JDL is such a threat in France, of all places. And the only reason it gains following is the pathetic inability of the govt. to protect the French Jews from fanatical lynch mobs. So maybe deal with the mobs first?

Of course, the anti-Semitic mobs need to be dealt with as well. To be honest, I was rather surprised to hear that the JDL even existed in France. But then again, I’ve seen PKK demonstrations in Berlin, so perhaps I shouldn’t have been so surprised.

250 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 6:44:43am

Did France apprehend any of the thugs responsible for those riots?

251 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 6:46:02am
252 darthstar  Aug 1, 2014 6:47:10am

Finally, the proof I was looking for.

253 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:48:10am

re: #247 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Let me put it another way, since you’re apparently committed to not answering the previous question:

Do you think Israel should be completely unrestrained in it’s response to this kidnapping?

No I do not. Israel has stopped attacking Hamas during 5 ceasefires and Hamas has broken every one of them. Today after Israel stopped firing Hamas took it upon themselves in an obvious planned attack to pop up from a hole in Israel, kill 2 soldiers and kidnap a third.

What is your opinion? What do you think Israel should do? Do you think Israel should show restraint?

254 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 6:48:24am

Well Glenn when will you insist that the captured POW receive visits from the UN, as stipulated by the Geneva Conventions?

255 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 6:50:06am

re: #253 NJDhockeyfan

No I do not. Israel has stopped attacking Hamas during 5 ceasefires and Hamas has broken every one of them. Today after Israel stopped firing Hamas took it upon themselves in an obvious planned attack to pop up from a hole in Israel, kill 2 soldiers and kidnap a third.

What is your opinion? What do you think Israel should do? Do you think Israel should show restraint?

Was the attack and kidnapping in Gaza, or in Israel?

256 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:50:09am

re: #254 Pie-onist Overlord

Well Glenn when will you insist that the captured POW receive visits from the UN, as stipulated by the Geneva Conventions?

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Bingo! Where can the Red Cross packages be delivered?

257 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 6:50:59am

re: #255 Feline Fearless Leader

Was the attack and kidnapping in Gaza, or in Israel?

Israel. At least that’s what the Israelis said this morning on CNN.

258 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:51:51am

re: #253 NJDhockeyfan

No I do not.

So you think that Israel should, for example, no longer restrain itself and avoid civilian casaulties? That it shouldn’t restrain itself and not use torture? That Israel shouldn’t restrain itself and use indiscriminate bombing tactics?

What is your opinion? What do you think Israel should do? Do you think Israel should show restraint?

Absolutely. Israel should restrain itself because restraint is the moral and ethical thing to do.

259 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 1, 2014 6:52:06am

re: #248 sattv4u2

You’re right; it doesn’t matter. Hamas could, by a stretch of the imagination, negotiate a cease fire in complete good faith and it would be undone before the ink is dry by any number of armed and disgruntled Palestinians whether or not they’re members of a named organization.

260 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 6:52:14am

re: #254 Pie-onist Overlord

I have a slight qualm with the use of the term, myself, but I object even more strenuously to the appellation ‘journalist’ given where ‘hack’ would be more appropriate.

261 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 6:54:06am

OPTICS!!!!111

262 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 6:54:10am

re: #257 NJDhockeyfan

Israel. At least that’s what the Israelis said this morning on CNN.

MSNBC says he was captured in Gaza.

The Israeli military told NBC News that Goldin had been captured in the Gaza Strip, but would not confirm where exactly.

263 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 6:54:10am

re: #254 Pie-onist Overlord

Well Glenn when will you insist that the captured POW receive visits from the UN, as stipulated by the Geneva Conventions?

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Also, it’s a distinction without a difference. If I was reading a WWII history book and it said that American forces kidnapped a German sergeant for interrogation I wouldn’t think it was weird or was implying it was an illegitimate military action. Nor if it said an American sniper set out to assassinate a German colonel. This sort of semantic bickering on Greenwald’s part ignores the obvious central truth: Hamas—or whatever group did this, which from Hamas’s statements looks like it was them—knew that this action would terminate the ceasefire.

264 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 6:55:57am

Thinking back this week on things Cruz has worked on: Israel, border crisis, Internet taxes, NSA, FAA. Iran. Not holding Katy Perry concerts

“Worked on?” Haha, that’s funny. Didn’t his “work” just involve making sure Congress did nothing?

265 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 6:56:11am

re: #262 Feline Fearless Leader

MSNBC says he was captured in Gaza.

The suicide bombing & capture took place at the Rafah crossing, which is between Gaza and Egypt.

266 darthstar  Aug 1, 2014 6:56:52am

If she grows, she’ll have the coolest theme song.

Youtube Video

267 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 6:56:59am

Word is that they’re getting to 218 votes by putting “stronger language” in the bills. You read that right, bills, as in Boehner’s still going to offer the funding bill first and then the anti-DACA bill second.

268 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 6:57:27am

Reports in Israel indicate the abduction occurred in the area of Rafah.

269 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 7:00:08am

re: #263 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Good point, until you mentioned WWII history I might have reserved the term ‘kidnapped’ for civilians. But I would have taken on authority the sentence, ‘Operation Gaff was an Allied attempt to kidnap or kill Field Marshal Rommel…’ without question.

270 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 7:00:52am

re: #265 Pie-onist Overlord

The suicide bombing & capture took place at the Rafah crossing, which is between Gaza and Egypt.

Thank you. The attack is reprehensible regardless of the location, but I think there is a distinction to be made between it happening in Gaza as compared to Israel.

NJDHF, what was the source that referred to the attackers “to pop out of a hole in Israel”?

271 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:02:36am

re: #269 Alyosha

If anything, I might think that ‘kidnap’ implied ‘by stealth’ whereas ‘capture’ might mean by main assault. But really, it’s a moot point. It was an action that they knew would terminate the ceasefire.

272 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:03:37am

Split hair:

It’s a “capture” if the soldier is to be held as a POW in accordance with Geneva Conventions, to be released at the end of hostilities.

It’s a “kidnapping” if the soldier is held incommunicado, with the intention of extorting a ransom.

273 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:04:40am

re: #272 Pie-onist Overlord

I really don’t think the words are consistently used with that difference. Both capturing and kidnapping means you take the other person. Whether or not they’re treated as a POW after that is its own thing. But again, it’s a moot goddamn point on Greenwald’s part, a quibble, a distraction.

274 darthstar  Aug 1, 2014 7:05:49am

re: #271 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

If anything, I might think that ‘kidnap’ implied ‘by stealth’ whereas ‘capture’ might mean by main assault. But really, it’s a moot point. It was an action that they knew would terminate the ceasefire.

The bottom line is we’ll see a lot of people die over this soldier…mostly children.

275 darthstar  Aug 1, 2014 7:06:16am

Okay…I need fresh air. Dog walk.

276 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 7:07:09am

re: #258 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

So you think that Israel should, for example, no longer restrain itself and avoid civilian casaulties? That it shouldn’t restrain itself and not use torture? That Israel shouldn’t restrain itself and use indiscriminate bombing tactics?

Absolutely. Israel should restrain itself because restraint is the moral and ethical thing to do.

Torture? WTF?

After thousands of rockets aimed at civilians they should just take it. Israel is the problem, I get it. Thank you G Obdicutwald

Derp

277 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:07:14am

re: #275 darthstar

Okay…I need fresh air. Dog walk.

Yeah

Get crackin’

It IS Friday, after all!!

278 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 7:08:41am

re: #273 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I really don’t think the words are consistently used with that difference. Both capturing and kidnapping means you take the other person. Whether or not they’re treated as a POW after that is its own thing. But again, it’s a moot goddamn point on Greenwald’s part, a quibble, a distraction.

They’re really not used with any consistency, it just so happens that the Israel-Palestine issue brings the etymologists and definition purists out of the woodwork. I understand that words are weapons in the war of ideas but to parse terms this finely is a way of changing focus and generating superfluous outrage.

279 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:09:33am

re: #276 NJDhockeyfan

Torture? WTF?

After thousands of rockets aimed at civilians they should just take it. Israel is the problem, I get it. Thank you G Obdicutwald

Derp

Look, dude, words have meaning. If someone isn’t showing restraint, then they’re unrestrained. Abiding by, for example, the Geneva convention is ‘showing restraint’. If you say you don’t want Israel to show restraint, you’re saying anything goes, including torture. This is logic, and the English language, and shit like that.

Stop being a goddamn idiot and notice that everyone here is condemning Hamas for this, that I’m specifically doing that, and that all I’m saying by ‘restraint’ is that Israel should try to minimize civilian casualties and abide by the Geneva conventions.

If you think that Israel should minimize civilian casualties, then guess what: you think israel should show restraint.

Calm yourself down, take a deep breath, engage your logic center and stop being an asshole.

280 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 1, 2014 7:10:06am

re: #270 Feline Fearless Leader

Thank you. The attack is reprehensible regardless of the location, but I think there is a distinction to be made between it happening in Gaza as compared to Israel.

NJDHF, what was the source that referred to the attackers “to pop out of a hole in Israel”?

This morning there was an IDF spokesman being interviewed on CNN. He said the terrorists came out of a tunnel in Israel and killed two soldiers and captured another one.

281 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:14:57am

re: #280 NJDhockeyfan

This morning there was an IDF spokesman being interviewed on CNN. He said the terrorists came out of a tunnel in Israel and killed two soldiers and captured another one.

CNN has a bunch of different people on, including one Dudebro who claimed that he engineered the Gilad Shalit trade. Except that he totally didn’t.

282 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:18:27am

re: #281 Pie-onist Overlord

Clueless Nattering Nabobs.

283 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:23:23am

Completely Nutty Numbskulls

284 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 7:25:17am

Teh GG haz a mad:

Greenwald Won’t Help Germany’s NSA Probe Unless It Talks To Snowden, Too

285 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:25:27am

re: #283 Archangelus

Completely Nutty Numbskulls

Cash Not News

286 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 7:27:52am

re: #285 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Cash Not News

Continuous Nonsense Network

287 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:28:40am

re: #279 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yes. Words have meanings, and NJD answered your question correctly

You asked
Do you think Israel should be completely unrestrained in it’s response to this kidnapping?

and he answered

No I do not.

So he does NOT think Israel should be “completely unrestrained”

288 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:29:01am

*LIGHTS SERVER ON FIRE*
*THROWS BURNING SERVER OUT WINDOW*

289 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:30:07am

So according to AJ, “shelling” broke the ceasefire, and they illustrate the story with some babies.

No bias here, move right along.

290 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:30:16am

re: #287 sattv4u2

Yes. Words have meanings, and NJD answered your question correctly

You asked
Do you think Israel should be completely unrestrained in it’s response to this kidnapping?

and he answered

No I do not.

So he does NOT think Israel should be “completely unrestrained”

Then he agrees that Israel should show restraint, and his rantings were even more idiotic.

291 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:30:29am

re: #288 Pie-onist Overlord

*LIGHTS SERVER ON FIRE*
*THROWS BURNING SERVER OUT WINDOW*

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* CATCHES BURNING SERVER, LAUNCHES IT WITH A LOANED MASSIVE CATAPULT TOWARDS QATAR *

292 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:30:48am

re: #289 Pie-onist Overlord

So according to AJ, “shelling” broke the ceasefire, and they illustrate the story with some babies.

No bias here, move right along.

The shelling occurred after the kidnapping, no matter whose timeline you use.

293 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:31:29am

re: #290 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Then he agrees that Israel should show restraint, and his rantings were even more idiotic.

as were yours, especially the name calling after he ANSWERED CORRECTLY

294 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 7:31:59am

re: #288 Pie-onist Overlord

*LIGHTS SERVER ON FIRE*
*THROWS BURNING SERVER OUT WINDOW*

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Whoa whoa, we draw the line at burning furniture.

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295 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:32:20am

and on that note

shower,,,, shave ,,, then the long quiet drive into a meeting!

296 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:33:01am

re: #293 sattv4u2

as were yours, especially the name calling after he ANSWERED CORRECTLY

The rest of his answer contradicts your interpretation.

297 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:34:11am

Jeesh, just heard an interview held a year ago with the abducted officer and his twin brother, both of whom are combat officers in different corps and who graduated together from the same officer’s course (were interviewed after the graduation); when asked about parental concerns over both brothers being in combat service, one of the lines he said was how there are things that are constant, the love of values, the concern and a mother’s love…

298 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 7:37:02am

I-P debates never end well.

299 b.d.  Aug 1, 2014 7:37:56am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I-P debates never end well.

I-P debates never end well.

FTFY

300 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:38:09am

The officer’s twin brother, who is also in active duty, has been ordered to return to his family once the identity of the abducted officer was confirmed…

301 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 7:38:50am

re: #298 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I-P debates never end well.

Usually because they dissolve into shouting matches over who’s worse.

302 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:39:52am

The abducted officer is from my city by the way - you can imagine the flow flood tidal wave of news and rumors going on around here right about now…

303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 7:40:50am

re: #301 Targetpractice

And because it’s a situation where there are no good answers and solutions, only “less horrible” ones.

304 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 7:41:31am

Awww. Doge :)

Suzuki, a small cigarette shop in Tokyo, has the best salesman ever - a cute Shiba Inu who opens the shop’s window for customers.

boredpanda.com

305 Gus  Aug 1, 2014 7:42:39am

Renewed shelling and a kidnapping.

306 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:42:45am

Slightly OT for a second to ask a quick question: how reliable is the Washington Times?

307 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 7:43:11am

re: #304 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Youtube Video

308 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:43:14am

re: #306 Archangelus

Slightly OT for a second to ask a quick question: how reliable is the Washington Times?

Total wingnut rag, owned by the Moonies.

309 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 7:43:55am

re: #306 Archangelus

Slightly OT for a second to ask a quick question: how reliable is the Washington Times?

Absolutely, if you always assume the opposite of what they say.//

310 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:44:17am

re: #303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And because it’s a situation where there are no good answers and solutions, only “less horrible” ones.

The situation remains the same as Lawhawk and I agreed on a few days ago: Both sides have to produce leaders that are capable of reaching compromise with each other and the political and temporal ability to enforce that compromise on their side.

Aside from things the two parties involved can do to make things more difficult, outside parties are doing a shitload to fuck this over, like the Arab states and Iran’s constant outpouring of antisemitic propaganda, the Dominionists support and encouragement for the Israeli far-right who want to see all Palestinian land taken by Israel, etc.

311 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:45:41am

re: #308 Pie-onist Overlord

Total wingnut rag, owned by the Moonies.

Thanks had to ask, and makes sense given what i read that was linked on my FB account…

312 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 7:51:22am

Something going on (though possibly just a traffic accident) in Center City Philadelphia. Two news choppers hovering to the east-northeast of where I currently am.

313 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:51:58am

Washington Times: UN Condemns Israel, US for not sharing Iron Dome with Hamas

The United Nations slammed Israel for possibly committing war crimes in its fight against Hamas — and then backed that accusation by suggesting the Jewish nation ought to be sharing its Iron Dome defensive technology with the very terror group it’s fighting.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said to members of the media at an “emergency” meeting of the U.N. Human Rights Council that Israel was falling short in its duty to protect citizens in the Gaza Strip from getting killed by its rockets.

“There is a strong possibility that international law has been violated, in a manner that could amount to war crimes,” she said, Breitbart reported.

Emphasis mine.

314 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:52:44am

re: #313 Archangelus

UN Condemns Israel, US for not sharing Iron Dome with Hamas

Considering the source I’d say it’s complete bullshit.

315 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:53:12am

re: #296 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The rest of his answer contradicts your interpretation.

No

The rest of his answer deals NOTHING with Israels response, Restrained, unrestrained, or anywhere in the middle

littlegreenfootballs.com

316 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 7:55:15am

Off the international topics — anyone have suggestions for places to visit or things to see in Tennessee?

317 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 7:56:15am

re: #314 Pie-onist Overlord

Considering the source I’d say it’s complete bullshit.

Yeah, didn’t notice that source reference until I decided to share the stuff and saw it.

318 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:56:34am

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Off the international topics — anyone have suggestions for places to visit or things to see in Tennessee?

Chattanooga

The Aquarium,,,, the Chattanooga Choo Choo,,, and there’s a “mountain” there that the name escapes me at the moment

319 sattv4u2  Aug 1, 2014 7:56:50am

and on that note

OUT!!!

320 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 7:57:24am

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Off the international topics — anyone have suggestions for places to visit or things to see in Tennessee?

We drove through Tennessee last year on the way to Alabama. Did not have time to stop at any of the attractions, but there is a lot of stuff you can do:

1. Jack Daniels distillery
2. Memphis (Graceland)
3. Nashville (Music City)
4. Civil War battlefields

321 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 7:57:36am

re: #315 sattv4u2

The rest of his answer deals NOTHING with Israels response,

…

What is your opinion? What do you think Israel should do? Do you think Israel should show restraint?

322 Teukka  Aug 1, 2014 7:58:45am

<rant>
I’ve noticed that some rightwing retrobulbarly evacuated entities have begun fear-mongering about the two US citizens who contracted EBOV, how it is planned to “cause the virus to break out in the US so marital (SIC(!)) law is imposed and christians and conservatives are rounded up and not given care, thus killing them,”, along with some really bad quality disinformation about the disease, including linking it to Obamacare.

Jesus Christ people, the #1 enemy when dealing with a level 4 pathogen is panic, conspiracy theories (organ harvesting one is popular in the outbreak areas), misinformation and mistrust of public health care.
</rant>

*Notes the Lizardim stock of tables is running low, orders 18-wheeler packed to the brim with them, along with two barrels of Napalm*

Now use it responsibly people, only one cup of Napalm per table.

323 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:00:26am
324 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:01:33am

re: #322 Teukka

Now use it responsibly people, only one cup of Napalm per table.

Wow, a table of burning napalm to throw out the window! Awesome!

325 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 8:01:45am

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

We drove through Tennessee last year on the way to Alabama. Did not have time to stop at any of the attractions, but there is a lot of stuff you can do:

1. Jack Daniels distillery
2. Memphis (Graceland)
3. Nashville (Music City)
4. Civil War battlefields

I already have six battlefields on the itinerary list (New Market, Chickamaugua, Stone’s River, Franklin, Fort Donelson, Shiloh). And at least a full day for both Nashville and Memphis. So I’m more looking at this point for the less obvious options, or maybe something particular in Nashville/Memphis/Chattanooga that shouldn’t be missed given the opportunity.

326 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 8:02:16am

re: #322 Teukka

We can always make ersatz napalm with orange juice and gasoline.

327 Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2014 8:02:52am

re: #322 Teukka

MARITAL LAW!!

LOLOLOL

328 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:02:59am

re: #324 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow, a table of burning napalm to throw out the window! Awesome!

Can you juggle burning tables?

329 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:03:27am

re: #327 Dr Lizardo

That one threw me off.

330 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 8:03:56am

re: #322 Teukka

Well give it to the conspiracy nuts, they’re recycling. I saw the exact same shit during the anthrax scare. And H1N1. And SARS. And swine flu. And I’m sure the next big health scare will be the same.

331 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 8:04:13am

re: #312 Feline Fearless Leader

Something going on (though possibly just a traffic accident) in Center City Philadelphia. Two news choppers hovering to the east-northeast of where I currently am.

Maybe this:
Suspicious Package Closes Center City Street

332 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:06:31am

re: #323 Pie-onist Overlord

So, basically, the Earth farts.

333 Teukka  Aug 1, 2014 8:07:25am

re: #327 Dr Lizardo

MARITAL LAW!!

LOLOLOL

My point exactly. Now, where did I put the Tommy Lee Jones implied facepalm pic?

334 Eventual Carrion  Aug 1, 2014 8:07:28am

re: #266 darthstar

If she grows, she’ll have the coolest theme song.

[Embedded content]

Video

Ahhh, I was thinking Bertha Butt. You know, one of the Butt sisters.

//
Gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman.
- Convention ‘72

335 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 8:07:56am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe this:
Suspicious Package Closes Center City Street

That’s probably it. That page turned up in the last 10 minutes since I was on that channel’s site a little while ago.

336 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 8:08:48am

re: #334 Eventual Carrion

Ahhh, I was thinking Bertha Butt. You know, one of the Butt sisters.

//
Gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman.
- Convention ‘72

One of my siblings had that on a 45.

337 Teukka  Aug 1, 2014 8:09:19am

re: #334 Eventual Carrion

Ahhh, I was thinking Bertha Butt. You know, one of the Butt sisters.

//
Gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman.
- Convention ‘72

FTFY:
Youtube Video

338 andres  Aug 1, 2014 8:12:05am

re: #94 Kilroy01

Totally off topic but may make everyone smile

Deadpool test footage

“Hola! Soy la piscina de la muerte!”

Deadpool always cracks me up. If the teaser turns to be accurate of the movie, it’s going to be a fun one.

339 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:17:03am

I haven’t seen any Hamas shills claim this kidnapping was a FALSE FLAG!!!!!!. But I did block a whole bunch of them.

340 Alyosha  Aug 1, 2014 8:17:09am

Teukka! Now might be a good time to bust out one of your warnings of the clathrate deposits and how their release would be detrimental to our relatively comfortable existence. Your posts on the subject are some of the few which can actually frighten me and is salient given Alouette’s post at #323

341 Eventual Carrion  Aug 1, 2014 8:17:43am

re: #336 Feline Fearless Leader

One of my siblings had that on a 45.

So did I. Really cracked me and my sisters up.

342 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 8:19:27am

The Breitbart article is spreading on Israeli social media like wildfire … thing is I’m comparing between what they’re writing and what was originally written and covered by news websites (Ynet, Ha’aretz, etc), and there seems to be a notable difference…
Courtesy of Ha’aretz:
haaretz.com

Pillay said that she was appalled at Washington consistently voting against resolutions on Israel in the Human Rights Council, General Assembly and Security Council.

“They have not only provided the heavy weaponry which is now being used by Israel in Gaza but they’ve also provided almost $1 billion in providing the ‘Iron Domes’ to protect the Israels from rocket attacks,” she said. “But no such protection has been provided to Gazans against the shelling.”

Now, courtesy of BB:
breitbart.com

Among the UN’s long bill of particulars against the beleaguered Jewish state comes the almost unbelievable accusation that Israel’s refusal to share its Iron Dome ballistic missile defense shield with the “governing authority” of Gaza - i.e. Hamas, the terror group created to pursue the extermination of the Jewish state and now waging a terrorist war against it - constitutes a war crime against the civilians of Gaza.

Just because Hamas fires rockets indiscriminately aimed at Israeli civilian population centers without provocation and fires them from within its own population centers does not “absolve” Israel from its own legal violations, Pillay told reporters Thursday.

That last paragraph is one i can’t find a reference to anywhere.

Am I right in assessing that BB basically made crap up to make a bad thing look worse? Would really appreciate it if someone else could take a look and back me up on this (or prove me wrong)…

343 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:21:31am

re: #342 Archangelus

Just because Hamas fires rockets indiscriminately aimed at Israeli civilian population centers without provocation and fires them from within its own population centers does not “absolve” Israel from its own legal violations, Pillay told reporters Thursday.

That last paragraph is one i can’t find a reference to anywhere.

Am i right in assessing that BB basically made crap up to make a bad thing look worse?

I’d say that’s about right.

344 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:22:20am

re: #342 Archangelus

The Breitbart article is spreading on Israeli social media like wildfire … thing is I’m comparing between what they’re writing and what was originally written and covered by news websites (Ynet, Ha’aretz, etc), and there seems to be a notable difference…
Courtesy of Ha’aretz:
haaretz.com

Now, courtesy of BB:
breitbart.com

That last paragraph is one i can’t find a reference to anywhere.

Am i right in assessing that BB basically made crap up to make a bad thing look worse?

Wait until you see it at Gateway Pundit, then you’ll know for sure it’s complete horse shit.

345 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 8:24:07am

re: #344 Pie-onist Overlord

Wait until you see it at Gateway Pundit, then you’ll know for sure it’s complete horse shit.

Basically seems that they’re making up the part about Israel “sharing the Iron Dome system”…

346 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 8:26:03am

re: #303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And because it’s a situation where there are no good answers and solutions, only “less horrible” ones.

Welcome to The Adventures of Humans on Mother Earth.

Morning All. I’m not going to use “good” this day.

347 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:26:42am
348 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 8:27:14am

Stop the presses! A House GOP howler monkey had a lucid moment:

Top House Republican: GOP Can’t Sue Obama, Then Ask Him To Act On Border

A senior House Republican said Friday that his caucus couldn’t simultaneously sue President Barack Obama for perceived abuse of executive authority and expect him to act unilaterally to address the border crisis.

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK), a close ally of House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), was asked to reconcile the last-minute scrapping of border legislation with the House GOP’s lawsuit in an appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“There was a contradiction yesterday that I’m still struggling to understand,” panelist Eugene Robinson said. “The leadership statement when the bill didn’t pass essentially said, ‘Well, but there are plenty of administrative things that President Obama can do and should be doing at the border.’ And that was a day after the house voted to sue President Obama for taking administrative action. So how does that square?”

Cole didn’t disagree.

Tune in later today when Tom Cole gets an earful from his base and declares that POTUS is a tyrant hellbent on unilaterally interpreting the law.

349 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:27:31am
350 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 8:29:36am

re: #332 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So, basically, the Earth farts.

Yes it does. And when it gets sick the gas builds up and the farts can get really nasty.

351 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 8:29:52am

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s actually good news. It is possible that the kidnapping was done by elements of Hamas cut off from command, or by unrelated elements. Even if that’s not the case, that they want to say that’s the case amounts to a repudiation of the event.

However, to re-engage the ceasefire they’ll have to produce the soldier.

352 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:30:32am

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

Did they deny the Shalit kidnapping at first too?

353 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:31:01am
354 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 8:33:05am

Happening in Kentucky right now:

355 Archangelus  Aug 1, 2014 8:33:40am

re: #352 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Did they deny the Shalit kidnapping at first too?

Yup.

356 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 8:34:12am

re:
#348

RINO!!!!1

He didn’t get the memo.

357 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 8:35:23am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

Does he really realize how much of an idiot tweets like that make him look like?

358 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 8:35:52am

Uh oh. Krauthammer is also having the same lucid moment as Tom Cole:

Charles Krauthammer is slamming the GOP for what he called a “ridiculous” contradiction after tabling legislation to tackle the border crisis within 24 hours after moving forward with a lawsuit against the president.

“It is ridiculous to sue the president on a Wednesday because he oversteps the law, as he has done a dozen times illegally and unconstitutionally, and then on a Thursday say that he should overstep the law, contradict the law that passed in 2008 and deal with this [the border] himself,” Krauthammer said Thursday on Fox News’ “Special Report.”

It won’t last. The GOP will find a way to make those Lego bricks fit if they have to pull out the Krazy Glue to do it.

359 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:36:17am

re: #355 Archangelus

Yup.

So right now the denial means nothing.

360 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:36:18am

re: #357 Feline Fearless Leader

Does he really realize how much of an idiot tweets like that make him look like?

He doesn’t care. He is a sociopath.

361 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 8:38:56am

re: #347 Pie-onist Overlord

The entire Amos Oz interview, for whoever’s interested:

362 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:38:57am

...

363 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 8:39:28am

David Horowitz is flapping his pie hole again:

David Horowitz: Obama Said Nothing About US Boy Kidnapped In Israel ‘Because He Was A Jew’

If someone else wants to fisk him, be my guest. For some reason they expect me to get work done around here. :-P

364 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 8:40:14am

re:
#358

Although Krathammer is derping here, me thinks—

“It is ridiculous to sue the president on a Wednesday because he oversteps the law, as he has done a dozen times illegally and unconstitutionally</blockquote?

I mean, seriously? I so long for the grand old days of the Unitary Executive Theory. //

365 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:40:48am

re: #363 Lidane

David Horowitz is flapping his pie hole again:

David Horowitz: Obama Said Nothing About US Boy Kidnapped In Israel ‘Because He Was A Jew’

If someone else wants to fisk him, be my guest. For some reason they expect me to get work done around here. :-P

He doesn’t deserve a fisking, just a frosking*.

*Frosk=Yiddish word for slap.

366 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 8:41:24am

re:
#363

Nurse, please make sure David stays in his room.

367 Eventual Carrion  Aug 1, 2014 8:43:02am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

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Hey Glenn. If I sat outside your house (compound) and hurled hand grenades into your yard, pool, garden, and sometimes almost your house. Would you just sit inside and hope I went away and didn’t, by chance, hit anything important to you like your friends, family, sig other, etc? Or would you call me a terrorist trying to terrify you and yours? That’s what you are asking Israel to do, just hope Hamas goes away and quits lobbing explosives into their backyard.

368 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 8:43:20am

re: #364 Bulworth

Krauthammer is a hack. He’s been one for years.

That said, I’m amused that he was able to see the idiocy in suing POTUS one day then demanding he act unilaterally the next.

369 De Kolta Chair  Aug 1, 2014 8:45:18am

re: #78 Gus

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What happens in Blair House stays in Blair House. What happens outside is a different matter.

370 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 8:47:11am
371 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 8:48:52am
372 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 8:51:45am

re:
#368

Yeah, gotta give credit where credit is due.

373 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 8:53:30am

Dim Jim latest:
Since this is coming from Gateway Pundit can we assume that HRW said nothing of the sort?

374 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 8:53:33am

Sean Hannity: Why didn’t Obama hand over his birth certificate like everybody else?

Is willfully ignorant, brain damaged, or just a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing neanderthal? All of the above?

376 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:55:53am

re: #373 Pie-onist Overlord

No, even broken clocks, etc.

377 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 1, 2014 8:56:48am

re: #239 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Except logic predicts chaos and corruption.

not that much

378 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 8:57:02am

re: #363 Lidane

David Horowitz is flapping his pie hole again:

If someone else wants to fisk him, be my guest. For some reason they expect me to get work done around here. :-P

Of course he is. All of the professional haters are out in force—you should see my Google Alerts since this started. They see it as nothing more than a great opportunity to spread more hate.

Because that’s what the I-P conflict needs, more hate. //

379 Gus  Aug 1, 2014 8:57:09am
380 De Kolta Chair  Aug 1, 2014 8:58:19am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

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Have the teabagging RWNJs blamed the #Ebola crisis on President Obama yet?

Since it’s happening in Africa, I doubt they’ve even noticed it.

381 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 8:58:59am

re: #377 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

not that much

That much. The potential energy of a “spring” was transformed into kinetic energy.

382 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 8:59:32am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Not yet, but the real dipshits are convinced that the Central American kids are going to bring ebola and leprosy here.

383 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 9:01:08am

Headline fail. Big time.

384 Gus  Aug 1, 2014 9:01:11am

Dear Brian Eno. Nope.

385 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 9:01:44am

re: #384 Gus

Dear Brian Eno. Nope.

Dear Brian Eno: You are a music producer.

386 Gus  Aug 1, 2014 9:01:49am

bbl

387 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:01:53am
388 De Kolta Chair  Aug 1, 2014 9:03:21am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

Headline fail. Big time.

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Do we get to vote on which American?

389 b.d.  Aug 1, 2014 9:04:29am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

Headline fail. Big time.

[Embedded content]

Not it.

390 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 9:04:46am

re: #379 Gus

[Embedded content]

Never heard of Brian Eno till I saw that tweet. There’s plenty of hyperbole, Godwinning, etc. swirling around out there. Lots of masks falling off all around.

Everyone seems to have talking points, accusations, and complaints, but precious few are offering any solutions.

391 makeitstop  Aug 1, 2014 9:06:32am

re: #379 Gus

Legendary music producer Brian Eno says funding Israel is like funding the KKK

Stick with what you know, Eno.

392 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 9:06:53am

So two hours ago, word was that the two “stronger worded” House bills would be put to a vote at 11am EST. Well, it’s now almost ten after 12pm EST and the only word is that the vote will happen “today,” though Pete Sessions is saying they may be there until 8pm.

Yegods, what a clusterfuck.

393 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 9:07:05am

Hey Amanda,

The Obamacare was also for kids. The immigration reform? Also for kids. The DREAM Act? Exclusively for kids. The bill that failed yesterday and put Ted in the headlines? For kids.

Have a nice life.

394 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 9:07:58am

Nice Page Article, Gus.

395 Teukka  Aug 1, 2014 9:07:59am

re: #340 Alyosha

Teukka! Now might be a good time to bust out one of your warnings of the clathrate deposits and how their release would be detrimental to our relatively comfortable existence. Your posts on the subject are some of the few which can actually frighten me and is salient given Alouette’s post at #323

Sure.
DISCLAIMER:
Author takes no responsibility for panic attacks and nightmares caused by reading this post.

Basically, clathrates are gasses (such as methane(CH4)) locked into ice. The clathrates’ ability to hold onto gas is very dependent on pressure and on … wait for it … temperature.
The most common gas locked in clathrates on this third rock from Sol is good ol’ CH4, wast deposits existing on the continental shelves as well as in the Arctic tundra (e.g. Siberia (yep, where the Yamal peninsula is)).
As global temperature rise, the clathrates ability to hold on to gas decreases, thus releasing methane into the atmosphere. Which is a problem, because as far as greenhouse gasses go, CH4 makes CO2 its bitch, because it is in round numbers 20 times as potent.
But if you thought all you would have to deal with was runaway global warming, think again. There are clathrate deposits on the continental shelves, which are not exempt from being released if things get a little warm and toasty.
And as fate will have it, the continental shelves have a lot of sediment, which, when stuff under it collapses as the clathrate pops, also will shift. Also, said sediment is not flat, it is mostly on an incline, meaning the shift will be great. Meaning there is a good chance of seeing a megatsunami up close and personal (see Storegga slide for an example).
But that is all of our problems, you say? Nope. Not by a long shot. Remember how I told you that clathrates were pressure as well as temperature sensitive? Simply put, one continental shelf clathrate deposit popping is likely to set off its neighbors closeby, be they under, above to the side of the popping deposit. Yep, you got it, cascading releases of CH4 clathrates.
And I will leave it to the reader to figure out what happens when you try to float a toy boat in a bubble pool set to maximum bubbles. And I also leave it as an exercise to figure out exactly how flammable CH4 is.

TL;DR When a climate scientist is says that “if even a fraction of the clathrate deposits on the continental shelves is released, we’re fucked”, he is making an understatement.

And just so no-one gets the idea I am making this up, and just how bad Ma Nature whipping her clathrate gun out can be:
Youtube Video

P.S.: Did I mention that a megatsunami originating on a continental shelf gives little to no warning time before it hits the coast?

396 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 9:09:11am

A sampling from Brian Eno discography

Solo albums
“Ambient 1: Music for Airports”, Released: March 1978. Label: Polydor (2310 647)
“Ambient 4: On Land”, Released: March 1982, Label: E.G. (EGED 20)

397 sagehen  Aug 1, 2014 9:09:13am

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Off the international topics — anyone have suggestions for places to visit or things to see in Tennessee?

Dollywood!!

dollywood.com

398 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 9:10:06am

re: #373 Pie-onist Overlord

Dim Jim latest:
Since this is coming from Gateway Pundit can we assume that HRW said nothing of the sort?

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Not said by HRW organization, just by its Executive Director Kenneth Roth…(if it makes any difference).

399 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 9:10:57am

re: #392 Targetpractice

Yegods, what a clusterfuck.

Just wait until they get around to trying the fund the government for another year.

400 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:13:40am

re: #398 ausador

Regardless of what Roth meant, he did not say it was acceptable.

401 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 9:13:52am

re: #398 ausador

And he’s only saying it’s not a human rights violation, not that it’s ‘acceptable’. Still totally fucking tone-deaf though.

402 brennant  Aug 1, 2014 9:16:41am

re: #379 Gus

This just makes me sad. I like his music.

403 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 9:17:11am

re: #399 Lidane

Just wait until they get around to trying the fund the government for another year.

No shit. Assuming they just drop this and don’t address it until after they come back from vacation, then they’ll be trying to beat the clock to get it and the federal funding issue addressed before one or both run out of money.

404 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 9:17:16am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh. What the page looks like now:

405 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 9:17:29am

re: #390 CuriousLurker

Never heard of Brian Eno till I saw that tweet. There’s plenty of hyperbole, Godwinning, etc. swirling around out there. Lots of masks falling off all around.

Everyone seems to have talking points, accusations, and complaints, but precious few seem to be offering any solutions.

It shows how frustrated everyone is with the whole Middle East,

And as far as solutions, well, more frustration as the parties involved don’t seem to resolve things either.

So, what is a musician/music producer to do? Like everyone, he says something about it and pisses off someone else. It’s like the whole conflict gets spread across the globe in its own little ways.

406 b.d.  Aug 1, 2014 9:19:04am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh. What the page looks like now:
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I guess they got their guy.

//

407 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 9:19:14am

re: #395 Teukka

I’ll go fix some bicycles. Will that help?

/

408 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:19:26am

DERP

WHERE DO YOU SEE “HALFWAY” MENTIONED HERE==>

409 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 9:20:00am

re: #405 ObserverArt

It’s like the whole conflict gets spread across the globe in its own little ways.

THIS. It’s like a freaking airborne virus or something.

410 sagehen  Aug 1, 2014 9:20:08am

re: #361 CuriousLurker

The entire Amos Oz interview, for whoever’s interested:

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Can you imagine a Palestinian state that is not hostile toward Israel?

Absolutely. I believe the majority of the Palestinians are not in love with Israel, but they do accept with clenched teeth that the Israeli Jews are not going anywhere, just like the majority of Israeli Jews - unhappily and with clenched teeth - accept that the Palestinians are here to stay. This is a basis not for a honeymoon, but perhaps for a fair divorce just like the case of the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

411 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 9:20:12am

re: #403 Targetpractice

No shit. Assuming they just drop this and don’t address it until after they come back from vacation, then they’ll be trying to beat the clock to get it and the federal funding issue addressed before one or both run out of money.

If these idiots cause a government shutdown right before the midterm elections I will be amazed. That said, I won’t put it past any of them.

412 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:21:54am

re: #411 Lidane

If these idiots cause a government shutdown right before the midterm elections I will be amazed. That said, I won’t put it past any of them.

Then they will complain forever about not being able to visit national monuments.

413 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 9:22:03am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

A sampling from Brian Eno discography

Solo albums
“Ambient 1: Music for Airports”, Released: March 1978. Label: Polydor (2310 647)
“Ambient 4: On Land”, Released: March 1982, Label: E.G. (EGED 20)

A list of all the music he produced for others would be very telling too. The guy has had an extensive career. I bet there is something he produced that would be familiar to just about everyone.

414 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 9:23:28am

re: #409 CuriousLurker

THIS. It’s like a freaking airborne virus or something.

I was going to make a comparison to a virus, but decided against it. But yeah.

Historically it is also how world wars get rolling.

415 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:23:33am

More of what he wrote on the topic:

For me the only issue is whether this indeed corresponds to the int. law.
As for political “nuances”, it seems that he is critical of both sides:

416 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 9:24:34am

re: #401 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

And he’s only saying it’s not a human rights violation, not that it’s ‘acceptable’. Still totally fucking tone-deaf though.

He is saying that kidnapping a soldier is not a rights violation, fine, legalistically perhaps it isn’t. But you have to be willfully blind to Hamas’ past record of treatment of its captives to think that it will not lead to rights violations upon that soldier.

417 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:25:14am

re: #416 ausador

He doesn’t say it won’t lead to rights violations.

418 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 9:25:25am

re: #416 ausador

Look at what the rest of what he’s saying, though.

Demanding concession for release is hostage taking.

419 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:27:34am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

DERP

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The “Twitchy” outrage is not even over an Actual Thing that John Kerry even said, it’s about a cartoon by some wingnut imagining what they think he might say.

420 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 9:27:53am

Hmm. Pay special attention to Florida:

See Who The Wealthiest Individual Is In Every State (MAP)

;)

421 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:28:32am

The law doesn’t and cannot take all complexities into account. Look at how GZ went scot-free, all according to the law.

422 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 9:32:36am

re: #410 sagehen

Yep, I read the article. Multiple times. That’s why I like him so much—he’s hopeful, optimistic even, but also a realist. I hear honesty & pragmatism when I read his words.

When I read or hear other (more strident) voices, not so much. Not all, in fact.

423 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 9:33:07am

In case anyone wants to get a bit more familiar with Brian Eno, Wiki has an index page that links to all the music he has produced. it is a big list…102 entries. Some are his own of course.

Pages in category “Albums produced by Brian Eno”

424 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 9:33:14am

re: #411 Lidane

If these idiots cause a government shutdown right before the midterm elections I will be amazed. That said, I won’t put it past any of them.

It may very well happen because Speaker Cruz believes that it will help the Republicans. After all, he still believes that the previous shutdown was the President’s fault and that Republicans are the ones who wanted to avoid it.

425 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:34:20am

Dim Jim using this wingnut cartoon as “truth” even though John Kerry said nothing of the kind.

426 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:34:23am

re: #423 ObserverArt

In case anyone wants to get a bit more familiar with Brian Eno

You jokin, right?//

427 De Kolta Chair  Aug 1, 2014 9:37:57am

re: #420 Lidane

Hmm. Pay special attention to Florida:

See Who The Wealthiest Individual Is In Every State (MAP)

;)

Aloha Pierre Omidyar!

428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 1, 2014 9:38:15am

A bear saves a drowning Crow:

Youtube Video

429 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 1, 2014 9:38:39am

re: #419 Pie-onist Overlord

The “Twitchy” outrage is not even over an Actual Thing that John Kerry even said, it’s about a cartoon by some wingnut imagining what they think he might say.

Because in a matter of moments it will translate into “Kerry ORDERED Israel to meet Hamas half way or else” and spread across the RW Blogosphere like norovirus on a cruise ship.

RBS

430 ObserverArt  Aug 1, 2014 9:39:02am

re: #420 Lidane

Hmm. Pay special attention to Florida:

See Who The Wealthiest Individual Is In Every State (MAP)

;)

Ha. Columbus (Bexley) Ohio’s own Leslie Wexner. Figures.

431 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 9:40:11am

I can not wait for Joe Sonka’s write up about this Kentucky death penalty hearing.
Unbelievable what he’s live tweeting.
twitter.com

432 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:41:19am

Frankly, Israel would have gotten much fewer bad PR if it just assassinated the Hamas leaders one by one instead of the whole-scale operation. I have no idea if that would have broken the int. law, but does that even matter at this point?

433 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:41:30am
434 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 9:43:02am

re: #358 Lidane

Uh oh. Krauthammer is also having the same lucid moment as Tom Cole:

It won’t last. The GOP will find a way to make those Lego bricks fit if they have to pull out the Krazy Glue to do it.

How many Bachmanns would they have to render down to get enough glue to do that?
//

435 De Kolta Chair  Aug 1, 2014 9:45:30am

re: #425 Pie-onist Overlord

Dim Jim using this wingnut cartoon as “truth” even though John Kerry said nothing of the kind.

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AL GORE INVENTED THE INTERNETZ LOL!!!

436 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 9:45:56am

re: #412 Pie-onist Overlord

Then they will complain forever about not being able to visit national monuments.

Some of which they complained about being created, because Obama.

437 Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2014 9:46:52am

re: #420 Lidane

Hmm. Pay special attention to Florida:

See Who The Wealthiest Individual Is In Every State (MAP)

;)

Check out Louisiana (If my memory serves correctly here)

438 b.d.  Aug 1, 2014 9:49:09am

re: #420 Lidane

Hmm. Pay special attention to Florida:

See Who The Wealthiest Individual Is In Every State (MAP)

;)

The Award Winning Journalist or teh other guy?

//

439 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 9:50:34am

re: #428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

A bear saves a drowning Crow:

[Embedded content]

Video

The crow looks like he’s waiting to be eated after he’s saved. Bear eats other stuff to show his disinterest.

440 blueraven  Aug 1, 2014 9:53:29am

This crap is not helpful

When Genocide is Permissible

Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.
I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

441 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 9:54:41am

Sure Ted, I believe you…NOT!

Sen. Ted Cruz denies he worked against House GOP border bill

As House Republicans struggled Thursday to rally behind legislation to address the influx of illegal immigrants at the U.S.-Mexico border, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), a tea party favorite who has close ties to House conservatives, dismissed talk that he was partly responsible for the GOP’s stumble.

Defending his recent meetings with House Republicans, Cruz insisted that he was seeking fellowship with conservatives, rather than whipping against House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio).

“One of the unfortunate things in Washington is how little communication there is between members of House and Senate,”…

442 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 9:55:41am

re: #438 b.d.

The Award Winning Journalist or teh other guy?

//

This guy—> forbes.com

Interesting, he’s the principal owner of the San Francisco Giants yet lives in FL.

443 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:55:45am

re: #428 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The crow was stinking so bad…///

444 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 9:55:47am

re: #440 blueraven

This crap is not helpful

When Genocide is Permissible

That’s why it got deleted from the source almost immediately.

445 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 9:56:52am

re: #440 blueraven

W.T.F.

446 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 9:58:13am

re: #438 b.d.

The Award Winning Journalist or teh other guy?

//

This one…

Charles Johnson.

447 blueraven  Aug 1, 2014 9:59:34am

re: #444 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s why it got deleted from the source almost immediately.

Well that is good, still showing for me but I do see where a post has been removed by this blogger

blogs.timesofisrael.com

448 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:00:39am

re: #447 blueraven

You’re looking at an archived version.

449 blueraven  Aug 1, 2014 10:01:51am

re: #448 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You’re looking at an archived version.

WTF was he thinking? That is just insane.

450 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:02:11am

Then again, ToI allows this.

451 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:02:24am

The thing with blog posts is that they are not approved in advanced. Any maniac can upload any crap they want, then it’s up to the host to remove it if it gets reported as violating their TOS.

452 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 10:03:59am

re: #441 ausador

Laughed at this comment there…

scaffalot
8:02 AM EST
All hail the Lemming King! Now someone show Cruz where the cliff is.

453 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 10:06:43am

re: #450 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Then again, ToI allows this.

Ugh.

454 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:06:48am
455 sagehen  Aug 1, 2014 10:08:28am

re: #432 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Frankly, Israel would have gotten much fewer bad PR if it just assassinated the Hamas leaders one by one instead of the whole-scale operation. I have no idea if that would have broken the int. law, but does that even matter at this point?

They tried that for awhile and… no, the criticism was every bit as vehement. Apparently there’s rules about that, too.

asil.org

456 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 10:08:46am

The new language to the old bill that couldn’t get enough votes yesterday? Dolloping another $35 million into the pot to reimburse states that deploy their NG to the border. In other words, the “tougher language” promised earlier is just another gimme to border state Republicans who were wavering on the bill.

457 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:10:26am

re: #456 Targetpractice

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The new language to the old bill that couldn’t get enough votes yesterday? Dolloping another $35 million into the pot to reimburse states that deploy their NG to the border. In other words, the “tougher language” promised earlier is just another gimme to border state Republicans who were wavering on the bill.

WHY THE HELL SHOULD MY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THEIR STATES DEPLOYING THEIR NATIONAL GUARD UNNECESSARILY?

458 klys  Aug 1, 2014 10:10:59am

re: #457 Kragar

WHY THE HELL SHOULD MY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THEIR STATES DEPLOYING THEIR NATIONAL GUARD UNNECESSARILY?

Because brown people.

///

459 FemNaziBitch  Aug 1, 2014 10:11:50am

So, I’ve figured out how to use the keyboard to control the mouse, but it is a pain in the a$$.

I’ll have to find time this weekend to go to the Apple Store. Same thing happened with my kids. They replaced the touch pad.

How is your day going?

460 Franklin Brewsevelt  Aug 1, 2014 10:14:32am

re: #454 Kragar

From the comments section:

CB • 21 minutes ago
Excuse me chaps, is this the year of Our Lord 2014?

My chronometer seems to be broken. I am receiving news headlines from 2008.

461 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:15:31am

FUCK

462 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 10:15:49am

re: #460 Franklin Brewsevelt

From the comments section:

I’ve always said that Hannity has never had an original thought in his head. Must have taken him 6 years to hear about the Birther nonsense.

463 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 10:19:11am

re:
#462

I wonder who he thinks McCain will choose as his running mate?

464 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:20:52am

Well here’s the thing outraged Greenwalders: bloggers are not held to the same editorial standards as actual “journalists” (maybe to the standards Greenwald sets for himself)
A blogger can upload any old shit and it only gets removed when it’s reported as violating the host TOS.

465 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:21:03am
466 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 10:21:16am

re: #463 Bulworth

re:
#462

I wonder who he thinks McCain will choose as his running mate?

“I’m sure that that Governor of Alaska, what’s her name, Palin, would be a well thought out and intelligent choice.”

467 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 10:23:16am

re: #456 Targetpractice

The new language to the old bill that couldn’t get enough votes yesterday? Dolloping another $35 million into the pot to reimburse states that deploy their NG to the border.

Translation: Rick Perry gets money from the feds for his asshole grandstanding of mobilizing the National Guard.

468 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:23:26am

For that matter has anyone bothered to read the comments to articles at Haaretz, YNet, and Jerusalem Post?

469 Stanley Sea  Aug 1, 2014 10:23:53am

re: #464 Pie-onist Overlord

Well here’s the thing outraged Greenwalders: bloggers are not held to the same editorial standards as actual “journalists” (maybe to the standards Greenwald sets for himself)
A blogger can upload any old shit and it only gets removed when it’s reported as violating the host TOS.

[Embedded content]

Unfortunately it’s being picked up by other pubs.

470 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 10:24:04am

re: #456 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

The new language to the old bill that couldn’t get enough votes yesterday? Dolloping another $35 million into the pot to reimburse states that deploy their NG to the border. In other words, the “tougher language” promised earlier is just another gimme to border state Republicans who were wavering on the bill.

re: #457 Kragar

WHY THE HELL SHOULD MY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THEIR STATES DEPLOYING THEIR NATIONAL GUARD UNNECESSARILY?

To cover Rick Perry’s ass, that’s why.

471 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:24:32am

Apparently, my brother has been spending the week interviewing various cast member of Guardians of the Galaxy.

He said he spent an afternoon this week where he and Micheal Rooker spent an hour talking about strategies for bobbing for apples.

Back during South by Southwest, he talked with Robert Duvall about BBQ rib recipes.

472 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:24:53am

re: #467 Lidane

Translation: Rick Perry gets money from the feds for his asshole grandstanding of mobilizing the National Guard.

Has to pass the Senate and WH first

473 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:25:13am

Busted!
Russian soldier shoots selfies and sends them to Instagram. Just one problem-he was geotagged in Ukraine, in a rebel held area very near where the airliner was shot down with Russian equipment, possibly with the involvement of Russian technicians or advisers.

Paged

474 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:25:28am

re: #469 Stanley Sea

Unfortunately it’s being picked up by other pubs.

[Embedded content]

Just like Gateway Pundit.

*THROWS BURNING TRASH BASKET OUT OF WINDOW*

Ford Land says I can’t have any more desks.

475 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 10:25:46am

re:
#471

How does one go about obtaining this sort of employment?

476 klys  Aug 1, 2014 10:26:18am

re: #472 Kragar

I wonder, does the $35 million have equal cuts elsewhere to be revenue-neutral, or is that just a Republican requirement for natural disaster bills?

////

477 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 10:26:38am

re: #456 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

The new language to the old bill that couldn’t get enough votes yesterday? Dolloping another $35 million into the pot to reimburse states that deploy their NG to the border. In other words, the “tougher language” promised earlier is just another gimme to border state Republicans who were wavering on the bill.

It’s a gift to Rick Perry. Did Susana Martinez ask for NG money? No. She couldn’t get reelected if she had. Did Jerry Brown ask for it? No, of course not. Jan Brewer? Probably.

Any bill (such as this one) that changes the 2008 requirement for a hearing should be known as the ‘Pro-Child Trafficking Bill’.

478 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 10:27:27am

re: #457 Kragar

WHY THE HELL SHOULD MY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THEIR STATES DEPLOYING THEIR NATIONAL GUARD UNNECESSARILY?

I can give you three reasons: Rick Perry, Rick Perry, and uh… what’s the third one there…?

479 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:27:30am

re: #475 Bulworth

re:
#471

How does one go about obtaining this sort of employment?

Go thru UCLA film school, then scrape by on commission in Los Angeles.

Sure, there are perks, but he’s nearly always broke

480 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 10:28:03am

re: #472 Kragar

Has to pass the Senate and WH first

Which it won’t. In other words, it’s another case of the GOP leaving a burning bag of dog shit on the Senate’s doorstep and running. They’re passing the bill for no other reason than to say they passed a bill. It’ll go nowhere, but that’s the point, they tossed the hot potato and now will campaign against the guy they tossed it to.

481 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 10:28:38am

re:
#479

Ah, thought there might be a catch, or two.

482 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 10:29:20am

re: #473 Rightwingconspirator

Busted!
Russian soldier shoots selfies and sends them to Instagram. Just one problem-he was geotagged in Ukraine, in a rebel held area very near where the airliner was shot down with Russian equipment, possibly with the involvement of Russian technicians or advisers.

Paged

Those two towns are right on the border, the soldier could have been on the Russian side and the GPS-to-location output from instragram could have placed him in Ukraine.

483 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 10:32:31am

re: #479 Kragar

Go thru UCLA film school, then scrape by on commission in Los Angeles.

Sure, there are perks, but he’s nearly always broke

And that, in a nutshell, is why I got the hell out of radio years ago.

The hours were long, the pay was barely above minimum wage and the chances of advancement were nil. Yes, the perks were awesome — free concert tickets, free music, meeting celebrities, etc. But the actual living expenses part of the deal? Yeah, that part sucked.

484 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 10:33:46am

re: #473 Rightwingconspirator

Busted!
Russian soldier shoots selfies and sends them to Instagram. Just one problem-he was geotagged in Ukraine, in a rebel held area very near where the airliner was shot down with Russian equipment, possibly with the involvement of Russian technicians or advisers.

Paged

Same guy who was mis-translated as saying he was “working on a Buk,” been discussed here for the last several days already. Pages already exist on him “working on a Buk” and debunking him “working on a Buk.”

485 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:33:50am

re: #482 Timothy Watson

Those two towns are right on the border, the soldier could have been on the Russian side and the GPS-to-location output from instragram could have placed him in Ukraine.

The cell tower might be but the camera has it’s own GPS that should be accurate to a few yards. Right? Not sure here…

486 klys  Aug 1, 2014 10:34:43am

re: #485 Rightwingconspirator

The cell tower might be but the camera has it’s own GPS that should be accurate to a few yards. Right? Not sure here…

Only if he has the GPS turned on all the time, otherwise it’s going to geolocate based off of cell phone towers.

Having the GPS on is a royal battery drain too, I generally keep mine off.

487 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 10:36:48am

re: #469 Stanley Sea

Unfortunately it’s being picked up by other pubs.

[Embedded content]

It even got paged here at LGF.

488 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:37:31am

re: #483 Lidane

And that, in a nutshell, is why I got the hell out of radio years ago.

The hours were long, the pay was barely above minimum wage and the chances of advancement were nil. Yes, the perks were awesome — free concert tickets, free music, meeting celebrities, etc. But the actual living expenses part of the deal? Yeah, that part sucked.

He is starting to make a name for himself. He does some podcasts, and every Friday, one of the biggest radio stations in Los Angeles has him on to discuss what movies were coming out. It started off as a 15 minute gig, but the producers have started booking him for an hour just to talk and be on air.

489 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 10:37:33am

re: #485 Rightwingconspirator

The cell tower might be but the camera has it’s own GPS that should be accurate to a few yards. Right? Not sure here…

Yes, the image on instragram’s side should have the raw GPS coordinates in its EXIF data, but Facebook and other social media might assign a large area, including an area that might be in another country, to a certain town or village.

For example, I live in the northern part of my county here in Virginia, but my weather app on my Android phone will place me miles away in one of two other unincorporated communities in another county when I am at home.

490 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 10:37:43am

re: #484 ausador

Same guy who was mis-translated as saying he was “working on a Buk,” been discussed here for the last several days already. Pages already exist on him “working on a Buk” and debunking him “working on a Buk.”

Here’s that Page.

491 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 10:38:45am

re: #461 Pie-onist Overlord

FUCK

Chemi Shalev
@ChemiShalev

Channel 10 says army reaching conclusion that Hannibal has failed, Goldin’s whereabouts + condition are unknown
1:11 PM - 1 Aug 2014

I had to look that one up: Hannibal Directive Yikes. Seems like it could hardly be classified as a “secret directive” though.

re: #468 Pie-onist Overlord

For that matter has anyone bothered to read the comments to articles at Haaretz, YNet, and Jerusalem Post?

I never, ever read comments except here and a couple of other places. Most places are sewers overflowing with various forms of bigotry, racism and pretty much any other negative -isms you can think of.

No way would I subject myself to ingesting that crap on a regular basis. My daily Google Alerts about the professional anti-Muslim bigot brigades are more than enough to deal with, and even then I don’t read all of it because it’s all frothing hyperbole, lies & hate. I mostly just skim the headlines to see what they’re up to.

492 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:39:31am

re: #486 klys

re: #484 ausador

Found this…

All photos that were sent to Instagram with the green checkmark on will be visible on your map with their exact location, unless you manually remove them from the map.

Looks like either way the thing to do is get the location L&L and put it in Google earth. I don’t instagram not sure how to get that from the guys account, anyone else maybe?

I’m fairly sure he can keep his phone charged off the equipment he is around.

493 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 1, 2014 10:41:27am

re: #455 sagehen

How does Israel simultaneously assassinate Hamas leadership and rebuke Hamas leadership for not stopping the rocket fire? It’s one or the other.

494 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 10:42:54am

I giggled

Yeah, democrats never argue or disagree with each other.

I guess that might seem the case when you’re only comparing them to the Tea Party.

495 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 10:44:18am

good grief…this morning it was reported as an unknown hazmat incident.

496 klys  Aug 1, 2014 10:44:32am

re: #492 Rightwingconspirator

Found this…

Looks like either way the thing to do is get the location L&L and put it in Google earth. I don’t instagram not sure how to get that from the guys account, anyone else maybe?

I’m fairly sure he can keep his phone charged off the equipment he is around.

If the coordinates are based off cell phone tower location, the margin of error is …not small. And I believe that Instagram will use the coarse location (AKA, based off cell towers) if the fine location (from GPS) is unavailable. (I can’t say for sure because I deleted my Instagram account several years ago after one of their derpy moments relating to copyright.)

Is it possible he has GPS turned on, sure. But it’s equally possible he doesn’t.

Do I believe that there are Russian troops over the border? Ones not in uniform, for sure. In uniform, I am less sure. I am just pointing out.

497 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:45:21am

re: #496 klys

Agreed.

498 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 10:45:50am

re: #494 Kragar

I giggled

Yeah, democrats never argue or disagree with each other.

I guess that might seem the case when you’re only comparing them to the Tea Party.

“I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.” - Will Rogers

The idea that the Dems never disagree is laughable. The difference is, they marginalize their kooks instead of pandering to them.

499 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 10:48:40am

The Donald needs to stifle that roadkill on his head.

500 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 10:48:43am

If Democrats never disagreed and always “fell into line like sheep”, the GOP would never hold a majority ever again.

501 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 10:51:01am

re: #494 Kragar

I giggled

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Yeah, democrats never argue or disagree with each other.

Well he has point, the public option being such a vital component of the ACA is proof of it.

///

502 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 10:51:56am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Donald needs to stifle that roadkill on his head.

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Oh, and there’s this one from yesterday:

503 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 10:52:14am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Donald needs to stifle that roadkill on his head.

[Embedded content]

Got dumbshit wingnuts who are now trying to spread fear that immigrants are gonna bring Ebola over the border and start an epidemic.

504 GeneJockey  Aug 1, 2014 10:52:29am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Donald needs to stifle that roadkill on his head.

[Embedded content]

Because con artists are known for their scientific insight.

505 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 10:52:47am

re: #502 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, and there’s this one from yesterday:

Ebola patient will be brought to the U.S. in a few days - now I know for sure that our leaders are incompetent. KEEP THEM OUT OF HERE!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2014

Translation: This is Obama’s fault.

506 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:53:05am

Why can’t people reTweet this constantly as THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL JEW THINKS.

507 GeneJockey  Aug 1, 2014 10:53:09am

re: #503 Targetpractice

Got dumbshit wingnuts who are now trying to spread fear that immigrants are gonna bring Ebola over the border and start an epidemic.

Bringing Ebola from a place where there is no Ebola.

508 klys  Aug 1, 2014 10:54:04am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

Why can’t people reTweet this constantly as THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL JEW THINKS.

[Embedded content]

Probably because that could be misinterpreted as a call for restraint on Israel.

/////////

509 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 10:54:25am

What part of THE EBOLA PATIENT IS A U.S. CITIZEN don’t they understand?

Also, there are containment facilities here that they don’t have in Africa.

510 sagehen  Aug 1, 2014 10:54:50am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

Why can’t people reTweet this constantly as THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL JEW THINKS.

[Embedded content]

A Jewish mother calling her son “typical”?

Now I’ve heard everything.

511 jaunte  Aug 1, 2014 10:56:04am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Donald needs to stifle that roadkill on his head.

[Embedded content]

No surprise that the bullying Donald is also a coward.

512 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 10:57:59am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

Why can’t people reTweet this constantly as THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL JEW THINKS.

[Embedded content]

It depends. I read some blogs of Russian-speaking Israeli Jews from time to time and many of them are pretty radicalized.

513 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 10:59:04am

re:
#509

Hurr hurr dont bring disease illeages or deserters into are country!!!111

514 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 1, 2014 10:59:35am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

If being a problem is grounds for barring them from entering the US why is Trump not elsewhere?

515 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 11:00:11am

re: #507 GeneJockey

Bringing Ebola from a place where there is no Ebola.

Talking to one on another board who’s convinced that an American who died in Africa before he was scheduled to fly could have, had he arrived home, caused an Ebola epidemic.

I’ve spent the last 20 minutes spelling out just how unlikely that is, to which she’s tut-tutting me and declaring that I’m really afraid that she might be right because she read it on some damned blog. She is very exemplar of the “low information voter.”

516 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 11:00:15am
517 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:01:27am

re: #496 klys

If the coordinates are based off cell phone tower location, the margin of error is …not small. And I believe that Instagram will use the coarse location (AKA, based off cell towers) if the fine location (from GPS) is unavailable. (I can’t say for sure because I deleted my Instagram account several years ago after one of their derpy moments relating to copyright.)

Is it possible he has GPS turned on, sure. But it’s equally possible he doesn’t.

Do I believe that there are Russian troops over the border? Ones not in uniform, for sure. In uniform, I am less sure. I am just pointing out.

That’s really good to know I’m going to update the Page to reflect the possibility. Thanks

518 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 11:01:28am

re: #516 Timothy Watson

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519 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:04:33am

Allegedly:

520 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 11:05:05am
521 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 11:06:12am
522 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 11:10:19am

Look, the TimesofIsrael removed that blog post right away, which is more than can be said about some other outlets.

523 jaunte  Aug 1, 2014 11:10:27am

Louie Gohmert: Pro-Immigration Groups Are ‘Questioning Your Manhood’

And what could be more manly than flying into a hate-panic over child and teenage immigrants?

524 Kragar  Aug 1, 2014 11:11:24am
525 klys  Aug 1, 2014 11:11:46am

re: #517 Rightwingconspirator

That’s really good to know I’m going to update the Page to reflect the possibility. Thanks

Glad to help. I run with GPS off all the time and it’s fun to watch the Google Maps estimate of where I am change (they helpfully show the margin of error as a circle around the position where they think you are).

Sometimes they are really, really off. But in general *I* know which road I’m on and am just using it for the map aspect anyway - give me a general location and I’ll do my own navigating, thanks. :)

526 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 11:13:15am
527 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 11:14:14am

re:
#523

“Sometimes it feels like that Sandy, that you’ve got all these forces against you, you’ve got the chamber, tens of millions of dollars coming and trying to influence people against you and get people belittling you, questioning your manhood,” he said.

OMFG. Waaaaaaaaaaaahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

These people, man, with their persecution complexes…..

528 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 1, 2014 11:15:07am

re: #214 Pie-onist Overlord

Pecan pie kicks ass. A Bieber pie would taste like ass.

Yea - pecan pie is the best!!!

Jonesing for one right now.

529 Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2014 11:15:32am

re: #527 Bulworth

re:
#523

OMFG. Waaaaaaaaaaaahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

These people, man, with their persecution complexes…..

And ironically, while they endlessly whine about being ‘persecuted’, they nonetheless crave it. By Odin’s beard, they want their martyr cookies!!

530 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 11:15:58am

re: #523 jaunte

Louie Gohmert: Pro-Immigration Groups Are ‘Questioning Your Manhood’

This bit of whining is amusing:

At the end of an interview with the American Family Association’s Sandy Rios today, Gohmert lamented that immigration reform proponents, such as the Chamber of Commerce, have tried to “get people belittling” him.

Gee, I can’t imagine why the Chamber of Commerce would be pro-immigration. Nope. Can’t think of any reason at all.

531 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:16:39am
It is tales like this that have turned hearts and minds in eastern Ukraine - where the Russian-speaking majority once welcomed a separatist uprising and Moscow’s backing for it - increasingly against Russia. In towns like Slaviansk, rebels have left behind a population disillusioned and angry. They’re still suspicious of the Ukrainian government forces they believed would kill them, but also disappointed by how a once-trusted Russia tried to manipulate their fears.

csmonitor.com

532 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 11:16:49am

WHAT IF THEY WERE MEMBERS OF YOUR CHURCH, ERICK?

533 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 11:17:00am

re: #523 jaunte

Louie Gohmert: Pro-Immigration Groups Are ‘Questioning Your Manhood’

And what could be more manly than flying into a hate-panic over child and teenage immigrants?

First his asparagus, now his manhood. Yeesh.

534 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 11:17:17am

re: #522 Pie-onist Overlord

Look, the TimesofIsrael removed that blog post right away, which is more than can be said about some other outlets.

They issued this statement:

An article that was posted earlier today on our website dealt with the question of genocide in a most irresponsible fashion. We reject any such notion or discussion associated with even entertaining the possibility of such an unacceptable idea.

The piece should have been rejected out of hand by editors but escaped their proper attention. We reject such a suggestion unequivocally and apologize for the error.

535 jaunte  Aug 1, 2014 11:17:19am

re: #533 Targetpractice

Same-same.

536 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 11:17:22am

And whining about MONEY and the influence of groups like THE CHAMBER of FCKING COMMERCE is really, really rich for GOHMERT! and anyone affiliated with his political party.

537 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 11:17:40am

re: #532 Pie-onist Overlord

Modern GOP philosophy is based on fear.

538 Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2014 11:18:01am

re: #532 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT IF THEY WERE MEMBERS OF YOUR CHURCH, ERICK?

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Erick, Outbreak was a movie, a work of fiction.

539 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:18:59am

re: #531 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“People have opened their eyes,” he says. “People used to think that fascism was there [in Kiev], but they found that it was here.”

Marina agrees, saying she is confused by events and the barrage of propaganda that portrays Ukrainian forces as cold-blooded killers. “After awhile we realized we were being manipulated and provoked.”

540 Bulworth  Aug 1, 2014 11:19:01am

re:
#532

He’s just asking questions….

Aren’t a few of the affected folks missionaries associated with Franklin Graham’s “Samaritan’s Purse”?

541 calochortus  Aug 1, 2014 11:19:04am

re: #532 Pie-onist Overlord

WHAT IF THEY WERE MEMBERS OF YOUR CHURCH, ERICK?

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Members of his church wouldn’t have gotten sick. Personal responsibility.
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542 Lidane  Aug 1, 2014 11:19:14am

re: #536 Bulworth

And whining about MONEY and the influence of groups like THE CHAMBER of FCKING COMMERCE is really, really rich for GOHMERT! and anyone affiliated with his political party.

543 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 11:19:46am

There’s a story about Bob McDonnell, when he was in the House of Delegates, that I could so easily link to their marital woes.

544 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 11:19:52am

re: #540 Bulworth

re:
#532

He’s just asking questions….

Aren’t a few of the affected folks missionaries associated with Franklin Graham’s “Samaritan’s Purse”?

Yes, two of them belong to Samaritan’s Purse.

545 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 11:20:00am

re: #539 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Where’s that from?

546 Dr. Matt  Aug 1, 2014 11:21:58am

I really commend the folks at Right Wing Watch. I couldn’t imagine having to listen to that amount RWNJ sewage on a daily basis.

547 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 1, 2014 11:22:33am

re: #534 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

They issued this statement:

Do you have a link for that TOI statement? I can’t find it on their website.

But I did find out that anyone can start a blog and post it.

548 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:24:16am

re: #545 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I gave the link in the 1st comment, CS Monitor.

549 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:24:36am

Category-Really Stupid Gun Video-Is this Ed Snowdens violent doppelganger?

Shooting down little cam drones is not going to work out as well as the video shows. “Hey asshole I was just trying to get some sunset footage!”

Video

550 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 11:25:02am

re: #506 Pie-onist Overlord

Why can’t people reTweet this constantly as THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL JEW THINKS.

[Embedded content]

For the same reason they don’t retweet the kind, thoughtful things the millions of Muslims out there in the Twitterverse say. Twitter isn’t a good gauge of “what a typical _____________ thinks” anyway, at least IMO. From last year:

Twitter Reaction to Events Often at Odds with Overall Public Opinion

The reaction on Twitter to major political events and policy decisions often differs a great deal from public opinion as measured by surveys. This is the conclusion of a year-long Pew Research Center study that compared the results of national polls to the tone of tweets in response to eight major news events, including the outcome of the presidential election, the first presidential debate and major speeches by Barack Obama.

At times the Twitter conversation is more liberal than survey responses, while at other times it is more conservative. Often it is the overall negativity that stands out. Much of the difference may have to do with both the narrow sliver of the public represented on Twitter as well as who among that slice chose to take part in any one conversation. […]

pewresearch.org

Also, Twitter is a pretty small piece of the pie. As of earlier this month there are close to 650 million active Twitter users, while the world population is around 7.2 billion. That means opinions on Twitter represent those of less than 10% of people around the globe.

The world needs more peaceful, rational voices and fewer shit-stirring trolls, shrieky ideologues, demagogues, and fanatics (religious or otherwise).

551 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 1, 2014 11:25:48am

re: #547 Pie-onist Overlord

Do you have a link for that TOI statement? I can’t find it on their website.

But I did find out that anyone can start a blog and post it.

Oh my mistake. That’s not from the original newspaper, but from the Jewish Times here in NY.

5tjt.com

552 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 11:28:30am

re: #516 Timothy Watson

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So much for that much ballyhooed staunch GOP support for Israel, huh? Somehow this will be Obama’s fault, I’m sure of it.

553 Timothy Watson  Aug 1, 2014 11:28:36am

Stupid question: Do colleges and universities intentionally make their websites as poorly designed as possible?

554 wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2014 11:29:06am

re: #551 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Oh my mistake. That’s not from the original newspaper, but from the Jewish Times here in NY.

5tjt.com

555 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 11:29:13am

re: #517 Rightwingconspirator

That’s really good to know I’m going to update the Page to reflect the possibility. Thanks

She’s scary smart, isn’t she? ;)

556 BeachDem  Aug 1, 2014 11:29:54am

Image: Gohmert_Bachmann_King.jpg

If this doesn’t scare you, nothing will.

557 jaunte  Aug 1, 2014 11:33:26am

re: #552 CuriousLurker

So much for that much ballyhooed staunch GOP support for Israel, huh? Somehow this will be Obama’s fault, I’m sure of it.

They’re more afraid of the Tea Party taking their seats away than they are of forest fires, wars or immigration.

558 andres  Aug 1, 2014 11:33:27am

re: #553 Timothy Watson

Stupid question: Do colleges and universities intentionally make their websites as poorly designed as possible?

No. It depends much on the web policy as much as how much arm twisting can the Web Team resist.

559 andres  Aug 1, 2014 11:34:33am

re: #553 Timothy Watson

Stupid question: Do colleges and universities intentionally make their websites as poorly designed as possible?

And it’s not that stupid: most higher ups give no damns to what’s best for everyone and only think what looks better for them, or their office.

560 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2014 11:36:36am

re: #554 wrenchwench

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This is a different website that ToI, though, yes?

561 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2014 11:37:12am

So Charles, is it true? Google + is where bloggers go to be alone?
//

562 CuriousLurker  Aug 1, 2014 11:38:46am

re: #560 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a different website that ToI, though, yes?

I’m getting confused too now… O_o

563 De Kolta Chair  Aug 1, 2014 11:41:01am

re: #543 Timothy Watson

[Embedded content]

Maureen #McDonnell email to Williams on day of 2011 earthquake: ‘I just felt the earth move and I wasn’t having sex!!!!”

Warped twisted inquiring minds want to know — why wasn’t she having sex? /

564 sagehen  Aug 1, 2014 11:42:40am

re: #560 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is a different website that ToI, though, yes?

Yes… it’s a Long Island (NY) paper, that reprinted the ToI post.

565 ausador  Aug 1, 2014 11:45:31am

re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth

go.wh.gov

Obama is on now.

Edit: Oops quoted the wrong post first…

566 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 1, 2014 11:47:53am

re: #318 sattv4u2

re: #316 Feline Fearless Leader

Off the international topics — anyone have suggestions for places to visit or things to see in Tennessee?

Chattanooga

The Aquarium,,,, the Chattanooga Choo Choo,,, and there’s a “mountain” there that the name escapes me at the moment

Chattanooga is a neat city in the shadow of Lookout Mountain. So it would get my vote.

There’s also Nashville and Memphis - depending on your cultural and music taste; they’re also places to go in Tennessee with things to see.

But note that it’s 350 miles from Chattanooga to Memphis, with Nashville kinda in the middle.

567 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 1, 2014 11:50:10am

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

We drove through Tennessee last year on the way to Alabama. Did not have time to stop at any of the attractions, but there is a lot of stuff you can do:

1. Jack Daniels distillery
2. Memphis (Graceland)
3. Nashville (Music City)
4. Civil War battlefields

Jack Daniels distillery is in a dry county - so if you visit - you won’t be able to sample it’s wares.

568 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 1, 2014 12:02:29pm

re: #566 BeenHereAwhile

Chattanooga is a neat city in the shadow of Lookout Mountain. So it would get my vote.

There’s also Nashville and Memphis - depending on your cultural and music taste; they’re also places to go in Tennessee with things to see.

But note that it’s 350 miles from Chattanooga to Memphis, with Nashville kinda in the middle.

My route has me coming into the state from the northeast and zig-zagging through all three in order to take in various Civil War battlefields in addition to the three cities. Will be spending roughly a week in the state.

569 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 1, 2014 12:37:48pm

re: #325 Feline Fearless Leader

I already have six battlefields on the itinerary list (New Market, Chickamaugua, Stone’s River, Franklin, Fort Donelson, Shiloh). And at least a full day for both Nashville and Memphis. So I’m more looking at this point for the less obvious options, or maybe something particular in Nashville/Memphis/Chattanooga that shouldn’t be missed given the opportunity.

Franklin is a neat little city. Downtown is a good place to take a break, walk around and do a meal stop. There’s free parking at the courthouse parking garage. The garage even has electric charging stations.

Nashville has Ft. Negley Park, overlooking downtown Nashville.
nashville.gov But I’ve never been there. Next to Ft Negley is the Nashville Sounds Ball Parks. Good stadium, good baseball.

Not much on Civil War battlefields, so someone on LGF better versed could advise you better.

Good overview of Nashville music - Country & Western Music Museum (well done if you’re into country music). Should be able to find parking at Nashville’s new convention center, which is next door and occupies two city blocks.

Classical music in Nashville, Schermerhorn Symphony Center adjacent to C&W Music Museum

The mother church of C&W music, the Ryman concerts usually sell out quickly, so that’s usually not a option without purchasing a ticket well in advance.

My basic suggestion for Nashville is to take the $30 Studio B bus tour, C&W Music Museum, or start at 5th Ave N and Broadway (Ryman is on 5th), and walk downhill to 2rd Ave N, up to Church St, then down to the river and back on 1st Ave to Broadway. Plenty of places of all food and music flavors along this route.

If you’re inclined (pun intended Nashville is a hilly city), there is a Citibike stand at Broadway and 1st.


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