Breitbart’s Absolutely Disgusting Attack On Gabby Giffords

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Last week Gabby Giffords co-authored an op-ed for CNN on Domestic Abuse and gun violence.

Guns killing women: Time for Congress to act

Basically, she is asking Congress to extend Federal gun laws that protect married women against abusive spouses to include single women who are abused and stalked.

Seems, to me anyway, a reasonable position.

That’s why it is time for Congress to address this lethal mix of domestic violence and guns. Our leaders must pass laws that prevent stalkers and abusers from accessing guns to intimidate, hurt or kill women.

The numbers should shock you: Women in America are 11 times more likely to be murdered with a gun than women in other democratic countries with developed economies. In domestic abuse situations, if the abuser has access to a gun, it increases the chance that a woman will die by 500%.

Most of the time, women are murdered with guns by someone they know, either by a family member or an intimate partner, such as a former or current husband or boyfriend.
Between 2001 and 2012, more women were shot to death by an intimate partner in our country than the total number of American troops killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. That is a national shame.

Fortunately, the momentum is on our side. On Wednesday, the Senate will hold its first-ever hearing on domestic violence homicides and the use of gun violence against America’s women. Many of our elected leaders are calling for new protections for those who are subject to abuse. States are already taking bipartisan action. And Americans support these laws by staggering margins.

Currently, federal law prevents people who are under domestic violence protection orders or have misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from accessing guns. But even though increasing numbers of couples are choosing to marry later in life, the law hasn’t been extended to address dating partner abuse. And convicted stalkers can still get guns.
Common sense says that these dangerous loopholes should be closed now. Congress has the power to do it.

This is a few days ago so maybe it is old news to some, but I couldn’t help being thoroughly disgusted by Breitbart’s reaction to Giffords’ op-ed. First, by the title; it is a complete misrepresentation of the op-ed. She never mentioned “war on women” nor implied it. Then, there are the vile comments about Gabby Giffords.

Gabby Giffords: Guns Are Part of a War on Women

Gabby, I’m sorry you were shot in the head, but you were shot in the head! You’re position on anything is seriously discounted because of that fact. Shut up. Go away and enjoy your congressional pension and let the grown ups mind the store. SHUT UP, GABBY!!!! You didn’t have a gun the day you were shot! I think you should have had one, dumb a**!!!

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This is odd….seeing as how that babes on THE VIEW are calling for all women to become armed in order to protect themselves and their kids.
Stupidity is getting more gender specific as time goes by….\
Ladies…try keeping your arguments on the same page.

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Mark Kelly is a great Dummy operator. I never see his lips move. And he is great at pitching his voice up.

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Being shot in the head helps in being a useful idiot!

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So Gabby… women are too stupid and useless to buy a gun and defend themselves? Not the women I know. Who’s waging the war on women now?

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AS SOON AS HER WORTHLESS HUSBAND GETS A JOB AND QUITS FEEDING OFF THIS POOR WOMAN, THE SOONER SHE CAN RELAX AND QUIT BEING HAULED AROUND LIKE A CART PONY!!

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And another thing… this crap here is the war on women! They want to leave my daughters with no defense against the creeps in this world they have another think coming! In Arizona we the best gun rights, plus conceal/carry. You will never change that, EVER! We are keeping our firearms. Suck on that!

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Sorry Gabs, but you may want to get tested for lead poisoning…. Yup, I just went there. Why? Nice doesn’t work with “these” people.

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I saw a video of her driving by in a car using her right arm. You folks are suckers and believe anything you are told. Shot in the forehead and out the back and no visible scaring or discoloration. Hair doesn’t grow through scar tissue. Boy people sure are gullible. One of the bystanders who was the last one shot , got shot twice in the arm and once in the back. 2 days later she is laughing and waving her arms all around while doing a interview. LOL Get out of here Gabby you PHONY

They don’t seem to have read the Op-Ed at all. Nobody is trying to take away guns from women or anybody else, unless they have a history of domestic abuse/stalking.

I’d like to see Gabby take my wife’s .25 Cal. Colt away from her

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Gabby owns guns, but her and Mark, don’t want you to own any !

These people are ignorant, hateful liars. And that is putting it as mildly as possible.

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96 comments
1 KerFuFFler  Aug 3, 2014 12:56:58pm
Between 2001 and 2012, more women were shot to death by an intimate partner in our country than the total number of American troops killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. That is a national shame.

OK, this statistic needs to be out, front and center! Responsible gun owners surely do not want their sisters and daughters shot by abusive dirtbags. It is time for a revolt within the NRA membership. Most of them support laws making it harder for criminals to buy guns and they need to elect leadership that reflects it.

2 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 3, 2014 12:58:35pm

re: #1 KerFuFFler

We are already gone.

3 Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2014 12:58:56pm

Breitbart clown AWR Hawkins also cites John Lott, the discredited shill for the gun lobby, as a “scholar” and an expert. These people are just vile.

4 blueraven  Aug 3, 2014 1:00:24pm

re: #1 KerFuFFler

OK, this statistic needs to be out, front and center! Responsible gun owners surely do not want their sisters and daughters shot by abusive dirtbags. It is time for a revolt within the NRA membership. Most of them support laws making it harder for criminals to buy guns and they need to elect leadership that reflects it.

Also this:

Women in America are 11 times more likely to be murdered with a gun than women in other democratic countries with developed economies.

5 Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2014 1:11:58pm

And yet the Breitclowns find a new low to sink to…..amazing.

6 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 1:12:21pm

re: #5 Dr. Matt

And yet the Breitclowns find a new low to sink to…..amazing.

When told they’ve hit rock bottom, they reach for the dynamite.

7 aagcobb  Aug 3, 2014 1:13:44pm

re: #4 blueraven

Also this:

You already know their answer to that one. To protect women from guns, we need to get a gun into the hands of every American Woman!

8 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 1:14:48pm

re: #7 aagcobb

You already know their answer to that one. To protect women from guns, we need to get a gun into the hands of every American Woman!

Nailed it. Cue the picture of the chick with the AR-15, Bible, and American flag.

9 Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2014 1:14:57pm

I just can’t even.

10 jaunte  Aug 3, 2014 1:16:07pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

putting out impeachment bait

Like what?

11 blueraven  Aug 3, 2014 1:16:43pm

re: #7 aagcobb

You already know their answer to that one. To protect women from guns, we need to get a gun into the hands of every American Woman!

These people are idiots, pure and simple. Gabby Giffords is a gun owner, so is her husband. How in the world do they interpret her op-ed to say we should keep guns away from women?

If a woman wants to own and carry a gun, fine. Nobody is quibbling with that.

12 Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2014 1:17:02pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I just can’t even.

Huh?

13 A Mom Anon  Aug 3, 2014 1:17:46pm

re: #10 jaunte

Maybe he meant cheese and bourbon. I think they’d like that, and it would be a nice gesture.

/////Need I?? (god this country is getting more idiotic by the hour)

14 jaunte  Aug 3, 2014 1:18:47pm

Looks like “impeachment bait” may be one of those Limbaugh phrases that the right wing is running with:
twitter.com

15 jaunte  Aug 3, 2014 1:19:21pm

Impeachment “bait” , rather.

16 Shazam  Aug 3, 2014 1:20:13pm

I’m pretty sure the impeachment bate is all in the GOP’s hands.

17 Lidane  Aug 3, 2014 1:20:21pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

18 b_sharp  Aug 3, 2014 1:22:25pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Breitbart clown AWR Hawkins also cites John Lott, the discredited shill for the gun lobby, as a “scholar” and an expert. These people are just vile.

The gun debate, if you can call it that, is an area where spurious correlations are taken as causation & revered as biblical fact. Lott’s work is a prime example of that.

19 b_sharp  Aug 3, 2014 1:23:15pm

re: #5 Dr. Matt

And yet the Breitclowns find a new low to sink to…..amazing.

It’s all the same low. They’ve gone beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel, they’re boring into it.

20 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2014 1:23:52pm

Republicans control the House. What exactly is stopping them from impeaching Obama? Like Charles said earlier, all they have to do is come up with some bullshit reason and put it to a vote, which considering the number of RWNJs in congress, should pass easily.

So why don’t they just do it and get it over with?

21 Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2014 1:24:54pm

This pathetic hack AWR Hawkins was also responsible for this: Breitbart Hack’s Howler: Pamela Geller Is the Gay Community’s BFF.

22 ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2014 1:25:02pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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I just can’t even.

Invasion of the GOP Body Snatchers.

And people are worried about Ebola.

I’m worried about the brain rot going on already.

23 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 3, 2014 1:25:03pm

re: #11 blueraven

These people are idiots, pure and simple. Gabby Giffords is a gun owner, so is her husband. How in the world do they interpret her op-ed to say we should keep guns away from women?

If a woman wants to own and carry a gun, fine. Nobody is quibbling with that.

Love the bit where they not only repeatedly insult her, but also go after her astronaut husband as a government teat sucking loser or some such.

For that matter, I saw comments from the “Boston Strong” idiot’s re-tweet list last night suggesting that all “liberals” should be surrendered to terrorists to be shot.

You start to realize that these people are demonstrating actual sociopathic behaviors. Utter lack of empathy and tribal hatred based on fallacious assumptions. They need to hate. They need their two minutes fix of screaming in the dark theatre at “Emmanuel Goldstein” and every other enemy of their perceived state.

And yes…some of them actually want to see us die. They root for it.

24 ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2014 1:27:54pm

re: #11 blueraven

These people are idiots, pure and simple. Gabby Giffords is a gun owner, so is her husband. How in the world do they interpret her op-ed to say we should keep guns away from women?

If a woman wants to own and carry a gun, fine. Nobody is quibbling with that.

This is another case of preheated hate. All ready to go off, just add a little heat and stir in another cocked-up story, no facts needed.

25 ausador  Aug 3, 2014 1:30:23pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

26 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 3, 2014 1:31:52pm

If you want to see the most reasonable and actually caring advocate for a path forward that respects gun risks and gun rights Gabby is your woman. Pretending otherwise just speaks to delusion not debate.

27 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 3, 2014 1:36:32pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

This is another case of preheated hate. All ready to go off, just add a little heat and stir in another cocked-up story, no facts needed.

1000% agreement. They have their screeching screeds all cued up and have their finger on the “play” button. Mention ‘guns’, play “OMG… OBAMA wants to confiscate all the guns”, mention ‘Israel’, it’s “ZOMG…. he want the Jews all forced into the sea”, mention something that they don’t have a ready reply for and it’s “Democrats are the real racists, and BENGHAZI!!!”

The problem is that their base eats this stuff up all day long. I suspect that at SOME point there will be a pushback by the moderate wing of the GOP, but right now the inmates are running the asylum.

RBS

28 blueraven  Aug 3, 2014 1:38:26pm

BTW, Thanks Charles, for punching up the title a bit and adding the image.

Tips for the future!

29 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 3, 2014 1:38:53pm

re: #27 RealityBasedSteve

1000% agreement. They have their screeching screeds all cued up and have their finger on the “play” button. Mention ‘guns’, play “OMG… OBAMA wants to confiscate all the guns”, mention ‘Israel’, it’s “ZOMG…. he want the Jews all forced into the sea”, mention something that they don’t have a ready reply for and it’s “Democrats are the real racists, and BENGHAZI!!!”

The problem is that their base eats this stuff up all day long. I suspect that at SOME point there will be a pushback by the moderate wing of the GOP, but right now the inmates are running the asylum.

RBS

The moderates have fled from the party in large part.

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 1:39:35pm

Just a sample of the Bad Craziness at teh #TCOT

31 jaunte  Aug 3, 2014 1:44:16pm

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

News story about that photo:
Giffords’ gun photo causes a stir

“Both sides of the gun violence debate usually miss the point. We don’t have to choose between owning, using, and enjoying guns, on one hand, and preventing gun violence, on the other. Both sides need to come together to support commonsense solutions to gun violence, like keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people like the young man who shot me. That’s why I’m fighting this fight. That’s why I’m working to bring people together to support gun rights and reduce gun violence. I hope you join me.”

32 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 1:50:04pm

Wingnuts are freaking out over this now:

It must so totally suck to be a wingnut.

33 HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2014 1:50:39pm

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

Just a sample of the Bad Craziness at teh #TCOT

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SympathyPimping? Fuckers. And good for her. Not her fault that gun fuckers don’t want to hear anything that doesn’t praise guns as the most awesome thing in the history of the world.

34 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 1:53:46pm

re: #32 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are freaking out over this now:

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It must so totally suck to be a wingnut.

It does. I can tell you from personal experience.

35 Mike Lamb  Aug 3, 2014 1:59:53pm

re: #10 jaunte

Like what?

Wearing a short skirt and tight blouse.

36 bratwurst  Aug 3, 2014 2:01:30pm

“Worlds collide” picture alert!

37 Romantic Heretic  Aug 3, 2014 2:02:46pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans control the House. What exactly is stopping them from impeaching Obama? Like Charles said earlier, all they have to do is come up with some bullshit reason and put it to a vote, which considering the number of RWNJs in congress, should pass easily.

So why don’t they just do it and get it over with?

Because they remember what happened with Clinton. His numbers went up when they impeached him.

The threat of impeachment is good for the teahadis. It keeps the base frothing. But if they actually carry through they’ll cause a lot of people currently not committed to a side to pick a side, and it won’t be the teahadi’s side.

Worse, it will cause those people to enter a voting booth come November, more than compensating for the committed (and they should be) ‘conservatives’ the teahadis are counting on.

So it’s going to be, ‘a tale of sound and fury, signifying nothing,’ as The Bard put it.

38 Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2014 2:03:01pm

Where’s Chachi?

39 Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2014 2:05:41pm

How dare that uppity blah man make his birthday about himself!!

40 The War TARDIS  Aug 3, 2014 2:07:13pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

See, the way they are talking against denying guns to domestic abusers gives me another line of attack.

Namely implying that those against denying domestic abusers are themselves domestic abusers.

41 jaunte  Aug 3, 2014 2:08:36pm

“GOPUSA” website:
Impeachment rallies in N. Carolina
By Kinston Free Press (NC) August 27, 2013 12:25 pm

gopusa.com

The Democrats sure did plan this bait a long time ago.

43 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2014 2:10:16pm

Even if Gabby Giffords HAD been armed that day, could she have reacted in time and efficiently enough to stop Loughner?

44 bratwurst  Aug 3, 2014 2:10:41pm

re: #38 Amory Blaine

Where’s Chachi?

Picture looks to be prior to season 5, when Scott Baio’s reign of terror began…before that, the Fonz had a different nephew called Spike!

45 Kragar  Aug 3, 2014 2:18:43pm
46 KingKenrod  Aug 3, 2014 2:18:51pm

re: #44 bratwurst

Picture looks to be prior to season 5, when Scott Baio’s reign of terror began…before that, the Fonz had a different nephew called Spike!

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The Fonz isn’t wearing his leather jacket, so I’d put the Lennon picture in 74 or 75. It hurts that I know that.

47 Kragar  Aug 3, 2014 2:19:27pm
48 BeachDem  Aug 3, 2014 2:20:08pm

Yeah. that Mark Kelly—Navy Captain, astronaut, engineer. What a lazy layabout, mooching off his wife’s retirement account.

The Breitbrat freaks are deranged.

49 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 3, 2014 2:24:02pm

re: #48 BeachDem

Yeah. that Mark Kelly—Navy Captain, astronaut, engineer. What a lazy layabout, mooching off his wife’s retirement account.

The Breitbrat freaks are deranged.

Americans of Excellence. ™

50 ausador  Aug 3, 2014 2:24:45pm

Excerpt from Evangelist/Author Michael Pearl’s* latest book “Created to Be His Help Meet.”

*(You may remember him from a previous book “To Train Up A Child” in which he advocating whipping children with pieces of tubing, starving them, and using cold water or outdoor cold exposure to “break their will.” The book was named by prosecutors as a contributing factor in the deaths by abuse of three children, Sean Paddock, Lydia Schatz, and Hana Grace-Rose Williams.)

My immediate goal in marriage was to make up for all those sexually frustrated years—the sooner the better. A friend of mine that married two years before I did had bragged that he was able to ‘know’ his bride five times on their wedding night. He was a puny fellow, so I had no doubt I would beat his brag, but the truth is, three times is all I could muster, and just barely. I quickly realized a single man’s concept of marriage was a bit different than the real thing. After all, it was midnight before we got to our room, and we were up at six headed to the Gulf Coast where we would honeymoon for a few days in a cottage on the beach.

It was a long day’s drive. We arrived at the cottage well after dark. We had brought all the gear for fishing and crabbing, as well as the groceries for her to prepare our meals. That way we could save a lot of money and be able to stay longer in the cabin. We dug all of the gear out of the station wagon and placed it in the cabin. Deb fixed us a big supper, after which I tried to break my record. One time and I was asleep. I woke in the middle of the night and remembered that crabs sometimes run along the beach, so I work Deb and excitedly said, “Let’s go crabbing!”

My new Mrs. complained about me not giving her enough time to find her tennis shoes. They were still packed somewhere and I was raring to go. Anyway I had seen her going barefoot many times. As we scurried along the beach she complained about not having a flashlight. I was using it up ahead to scout the way and chase crabs. I heard her say something about shells hurting her feet. For the next hour or two I ran along the seashore and she dragged along behind carrying my crab sack. I put out some of those little round traps with bait in them and we eventually got about six or eight of the little pinching critters—not enough for a meal.

That was my first time to ever go crabbing and I was having a ball. What more could a fellow ask for?

A cottage on the beach, a hot wife, plenty of crabs…this was living! We made it back to the cottage where we grabbed a couple of hours of sleep before I woke up hungry and had to make love to a woman half asleep. She was willing but not very active.

Afterward she got up and fixed us a fine breakfast. Great cook. Her mother taught her well. She wanted to go back to sleep but I talked her into going out for more crabs. By mid-afternoon we had a sack full of crabs and headed back to the cottage. Wow, was I tired. I told her I would just take a little nap while she prepared supper. I don’t know how long I slept but I awoke to her screeching and jumping about with crabs crawling all over the cabin. The silly girl had left the sack open when she was trying to get the first crab in the huge boiling kettle. I sat up in bed and offered some constructive advice and she had a personality change right there in front of me, and us not yet married 48 hours. Who could have imagined a female could carry on in such a crazy manner? I tried to calm her down but she just stomped off, leaving the French fries turning black in the hot smoking oil and the crabs crawling. I yelled at her retreating form, “I don’t need to hunt crabs; I married one!” Somehow that one remark has hung around our marriage like a ticked-off ghost. It seemed appropriate at the time.

To her credit she did come back and finish cooking. After we ate I was ready for some more sex, but she just wanted to sleep. I had read in a marriage book how women always have excuses, like being sleepy, having a headache, etc. There was a great sense of satisfaction when I was so completely able to change her mind; it wasn’t that difficult. She is wired right. It made me sleepy so I dozed off again. I was just dropping off when I heard the crash. It came from the bathroom. She looked dead lying there all twisted up in a weird position half in half out of the shower. The curtain and the rod lay flung out on the floor around her and water was spraying everywhere. It was one scary moment - my new bride dead on our honeymoon. I quickly turned off the water and bent to cradle her in my arms. I gently shook her while examining her injured forehead, which was quickly swelling and turning blue, “What’s wrong honey? Are you sick?”

After she opened her eyes it took her a minute to focus and then her expression changed. It was a mixture of pity and anger, although her voice was like a deep sigh as she whispered, “You really don’t know do you?” Man, it sounded like she was accusing me or something! Since she was hurt I let her have her say and boy, she laid it on.

She sat up, pulling herself away from me, turning where she could look me square in the face. The gist of what she said was something along these lines: “In the last 48 hours I haven’t slept more than two hours undisturbed. My feet have 20 or more tiny holes in them because you wouldn’t let me take an extra five minutes to unpack my tennis shoes. My shoulder is sore from trying to carry thirty pounds of crabs for hours (they didn’t weight that much.) My hand is burned from trying to stuff a fighting crab into a kettle of boiling water, which seems very much like torturing the poor thing, AND, all the while you lay in a state of repose. Due to lack of sleep and sun, my eyes feel like they are full of sand. I have had little to eat. I am female, for crying out loud. I just want to sleep without you pawing on me. Besides, I have body parts I didn’t even know existed until now and they are killing me….so what is wrong with me??? I’m the weaker vessel, remember? It’s in the Bible, chapter one, verse one….or somewhere.”

Strange creatures, these females. My brother never acted like that when we traveled together holding evangelistic services. “Well, she will get adjusted.” I thought.

Boy…uhh…well…?

Yet he and his wife still give lectures to Christian groups all over the country the theme of which is that a happy marriage requires that the wife submit to her husband in all things.

His wife Debi is famous for responding to a question from a pregnant woman about how she should respond to her husbands recent attempts to stab her. Debi told her that all cases of husbands hitting their wife were due to the women’s failure to submit and stop provoking him.

Sigh… :(

51 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 2:28:31pm

re: #50 ausador

What in the name of God is wrong with this man.

52 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 3, 2014 2:29:26pm

re: #30 Pie-onist Overlord

Notice any problems with the shadow on the target in that picture? The wingers have them some mad Photoshop skills, do they not?

53 A Mom Anon  Aug 3, 2014 2:32:10pm

re: #50 ausador

What an abusive asshole. Holy Shit.

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2014 2:34:25pm

re: #17 Lidane

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And they keep coming!!!!

55 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 2:34:49pm
56 Skip Intro  Aug 3, 2014 2:38:59pm

re: #53 A Mom Anon

What an abusive asshole. Holy Shit.

You haven’t been to an evangelical church recently, I assume. Obedience to hubby in all things or you’ll go straight to hell is a given and a requirement for church membership.

57 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 3, 2014 2:39:07pm

re: #55 Pie-onist Overlord

Nah it’ll just make them go “See? She made it, so could the rest of the blacks if they just tried.”

58 HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2014 2:42:06pm

re: #57 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Nah it’ll just make them go “See? She made it, so could the rest of the blacks if they just tried.”

or get pissy with her for bringing up slavery or Jim Crow because we’re not allowed to talk about that for some reaosn.

59 A Mom Anon  Aug 3, 2014 2:42:39pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

My parents are wingnut evangelicals. If my Dad tried that shit on my Mom, he’d find himself in a world of shit and probably looking for his “manly regions” when she was done with him. They’ve been married 54 years, they respect each other, even if he is the “head” of the household. That bullshit in ausador’s post is sanctioned sadistic, self centered, egotistical abuse cloaked in religion. Period.

60 HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2014 2:42:55pm

re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if Gabby Giffords HAD been armed that day, could she have reacted in time and efficiently enough to stop Loughner?

Someone actually was armed that day. And he nearly got shot by police because they thought he was the shooter.

61 HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2014 2:43:44pm

re: #45 Kragar

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How dare you quote us on what we say we want to do.

62 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 3, 2014 2:44:17pm

re: #59 A Mom Anon

It’s 100% free of the question “How can I make my wife happy?”

63 blueraven  Aug 3, 2014 2:45:20pm

re: #52 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Notice any problems with the shadow on the target in that picture? The wingers have them some mad Photoshop skills, do they not?

Evidently it is a real photo, but has been cropped.
From GG’s facebook page

Here are two photos of me that a conservative blog has dug up. I remember both of these days fondly. The first is at the Tucson Police Department firing range. They invited me to test rifles and tasers that they bought with federal funds, which I helped secure.

facebook.com

64 ausador  Aug 3, 2014 2:49:04pm

re: #62 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’s 100% free of the question “How can I make my wife happy?”

me, me, me, me, me, ME!!! (her? what?)

65 HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2014 2:49:16pm

You know, there’s nothing hypocritical about what Giffords has said and is doing. She wants reasonable gun policies and for people to be able to still own weapons. That’s fine. Wingnuts seem to think that there should be absolutely no background checks and that a private citizen should be able to own a bazooka if they so desired. And they encourage the practice of what can easily be called gun hoarding.

66 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 3, 2014 2:49:56pm

re: #59 A Mom Anon

My parents are wingnut evangelicals. If my Dad tried that shit on my Mom, he’d find himself in a world of shit and probably looking for his “manly regions” when she was done with him. They’ve been married 54 years, they respect each other, even if he is the “head” of the household. That bullshit in ausador’s post is sanctioned sadistic, self centered, egotistical abuse cloaked in religion. Period.

Yep. It’s a very twisted reading of the pseudo-Pauline Pastoral letters too - which are bad enough in their Romanization of Christianity & the basis of much ill - that they base that evil crap on.

I’ll stop before I get all “no true Scotsman” yet again. :(

67 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 2:51:45pm

re: #57 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Nah it’ll just make them go “See? She made it, so could the rest of the blacks if they just tried.”

Nope, they’ll go
HURR HURR MOOCH!!!!!!!
Because they’re like that all the fucking time.

68 OhNoZombies!  Aug 3, 2014 2:52:34pm

re: #57 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Nah it’ll just make them go “See? She made it, so could the rest of the blacks if they just tried.”

Eh, more like Affirmative Action and some other BS.

69 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 2:53:06pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

You haven’t been to an evangelical church recently, I assume. Obedience to hubby in all things or you’ll go straight to hell is a given and a requirement for church membership.

Yeah, it’s not quite as bad as that, though. Despite all the talk about submitting to the husband in all things, even the evangelical community looks down on spousal abuse. For all their emphasis on submission, they do actually at least try to emphasize the next line (“Husbands, love your wives”) so as to avoid the appearance of countenancing complete domination.

70 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 3, 2014 2:54:24pm

re: #68 OhNoZombies!

Eh, more like Affirmative Action and some other BS.

That’s the thing: if the response to nearly every successful black person is that they must have gotten affirmative action to get there, then that implies either:

Affirmative action is needed because there’s a ton of racism keeping black people down, or;

There’s something wrong with black people, who are keeping themselves down. Either genetically or ‘culturally’, black people are to blame.

Any way you take it, it’s racist as hell.

71 ausador  Aug 3, 2014 2:56:45pm

re: #55 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #56 Skip Intro

re: #57 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

re: #58 HappyWarrior

re: #67 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #68 OhNoZombies!

All of the above, at least until Rush tells them what they should think about it tomorrow, then it’ll be like listening to a flock of parrots.

72 OhNoZombies!  Aug 3, 2014 2:58:51pm

re: #70 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That’s the thing: if the response to nearly every successful black person is that they must have gotten affirmative action to get there, then that implies either:

Affirmative action is needed because there’s a ton of racism keeping black people down, or;

There’s something wrong with black people, who are keeping themselves down. Either genetically or ‘culturally’, black people are to blame.

Any way you take it, it’s racist as hell.

Yep, and I’ve noticed they generally lean towards the second option.

73 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2014 2:59:45pm

My wife and I have a good marriage. We’re Christians, but I’ll be the first one to tell you that there are plenty of things that she is better suited to make a decision on than I am for a variety of reasons. If there is a stalemate and we cannot compromise, I usually make the final decision. But not because I HAVE to, because she allows me to. If she wanted to make the decision I would not care.

Marriage is a partnership, a union of TWO EQUAL INDIVIDUALS.

My wife is not my property. She is not expected to do as I say whenever I say it.

That’s not a marriage. That’s slavery.

74 kirkspencer  Aug 3, 2014 3:00:07pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

You know, there’s nothing hypocritical about what Giffords has said and is doing. She wants reasonable gun policies and for people to be able to still own weapons. That’s fine. Wingnuts seem to think that there should be absolutely no background checks and that a private citizen should be able to own a bazooka if they so desired. And they encourage the practice of what can easily be called gun hoarding.

It’s a mindset of absolutism. There is no range of control in the minds of some. If you’re proposing minimal or reasonable restrictions you are just playing an incremental game, taking a small chunk on the way to a total ban. If that’s your mindset, then in that world she is a hypocrite.

And while the color of the sky in your world is usually the same as ours you should probably not listen to the voices. //

75 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2014 3:01:48pm

re: #71 ausador

All of the above, at least until Rush tells them what they should think about it tomorrow, then it’ll be like listening to a flock of parrots.

And I ran, the Ronald Reagan way,
I just ran, to Glenn Beck every day,
So I knew what to say.

76 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 3:12:52pm

re: #70 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That’s the thing: if the response to nearly every successful black person is that they must have gotten affirmative action to get there, then that implies either:

Affirmative action is needed because there’s a ton of racism keeping black people down, or;

There’s something wrong with black people, who are keeping themselves down. Either genetically or ‘culturally’, black people are to blame.

Any way you take it, it’s racist as hell.

Ben Carson has openly admitted that his family took welfare & food stamps, and that he relied on Pell Grants to pay for his education.

But he wants to deny those things to others.

77 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 3:15:24pm

Also too: wingnuts are losing their shit (as usual) that Michelle Obama spoke about the “Blood of Africa” flowing through her veins.

HURR HURR WHY DOESN’T SHE SAY TEH BLOOD OF AMERCIA!!!!!!

Two reasons dipshits:

1. There is no such thing as “American” DNA, although there may be Native tribal DNA.

2. Ever heard of the “One Drop Rule”?

78 A Mom Anon  Aug 3, 2014 3:16:02pm

re: #76 Pie-onist Overlord

The current GOP platform is based on Fuck You, I Got Mine, Oh and Did I Mention Fuck You? It’s all they’ve got at this point. No one’s doing a thing to marginalize TEH CRAZEEE and that platform won’t change until they stop being cowards and boot the assholes to the curb. In other words, it’s not going to stop anytime soon.

79 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 3:21:06pm

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I have a good marriage. We’re Christians, but I’ll be the first one to tell you that there are plenty of things that she is better suited to make a decision on than I am for a variety of reasons. If there is a stalemate and we cannot compromise, I usually make the final decision. But not because I HAVE to, because she allows me to. If she wanted to make the decision I would not care.

Marriage is a partnership, a union of TWO EQUAL INDIVIDUALS.

My wife is not my property. She is not expected to do as I say whenever I say it.

That’s not a marriage. That’s slavery.

I married a strong, independent woman who (at the time) could literally, physically kick my ass. I had no delusions about trying to control her or command her to submit to me. Even though I was raised with the wingnut concept of marriage, it wasn’t what I wanted because, on some fundamental level, I knew that it wasn’t right.

80 Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2014 3:25:05pm

That wingnut marriage screed was incredibly hard to read. An hour later I’m still affected.

81 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 3:26:12pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

That wingnut marriage screed was incredibly hard to read. An hour later I’m still affected.

Yeah, it was. I really wanted to punch something. I wish I could explain to assholes like this just how lucky they really are to have a wife and how they should be treating her.

82 Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2014 3:28:40pm
83 De Kolta Chair  Aug 3, 2014 3:29:01pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Tom Nichols @TheWarRoom_Tom

If the Dems goal is to derail GOP momentum toward November by putting out impeachment bait, looks like some GOPers are eager to cooperate

CUZ THEIRS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO MAJOR PARTIES!!!1!!

84 bratwurst  Aug 3, 2014 3:32:14pm

Glad to know I am not the only person who has been feeling this way over the past several weeks:

85 Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2014 3:32:22pm

Worked on the redesign this weekend, but ran into a few issues that I need to think about - so you’re all spared from having to cope with changes. For now. Moo hahahaha.

86 thedopefishlives  Aug 3, 2014 3:35:27pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Worked on the redesign this weekend, but ran into a few issues that I need to think about - so you’re all spared from having to cope with changes. For now. Moo hahahaha.

Moo hahahaha? Is this a cow-powered redesign? It’s an upgrade from hamsters, I suppose…

87 Timothy Watson  Aug 3, 2014 3:37:20pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Worked on the redesign this weekend, but ran into a few issues that I need to think about - so you’re all spared from having to cope with changes. For now. Moo hahahaha.

Bah, the Doomsday Clock has to be reset.

88 Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2014 3:37:25pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Worked on the redesign this weekend, but ran into a few issues that I need to think about - so you’re all spared from having to cope with changes. For now. Moo hahahaha.

Thanks Obama/Charles.

89 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 3, 2014 3:37:37pm
90 A Mom Anon  Aug 3, 2014 3:37:50pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Yeah, I’m a domestic abuse survivor and it damned near triggered me into anxiety. Fortunately I’ve been married for 21 yrs to a pretty awesome guy, so it’s not fresh or anything, but holy crap that was just horrendously awful. How can you say you love someone and then treat them like that? That’s hatred and contempt not love. It made me sick to my stomach.

91 Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2014 3:38:18pm

re: #89 Pie-onist Overlord

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Beautiful.

92 Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2014 3:39:05pm

re: #90 A Mom Anon

Yeah, I’m a domestic abuse survivor and it damned near triggered me into anxiety. Fortunately I’ve been married for 21 yrs to a pretty awesome guy, so it’s not fresh or anything, but holy crap that was just horrendously awful. How can you say you love someone and then treat them like that? That’s hatred and contempt not love. It made me sick to my stomach.

It was parody, except it wasn’t.

Hopefully they are divorced.

93 goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2014 3:45:00pm
SPIEGEL has learned from reliable sources that Israeli intelligence eavesdropped on US Secretary of State John Kerry during Middle East peace negotiations. In addition to the Israelis, at least one other intelligence service also listened in as Kerry mediated last year between Israel, the Palestinians and the Arab states, several intelligence service sources told SPIEGEL. Revelations of the eavesdropping could further damage already tense relations between the US government and Israel.

During the peak stage of peace talks last year, Kerry spoke regularly with high-ranking negotiating partners in the Middle East. At the time, some of these calls were not made on encrypted equipment, but instead on normal telephones, with the conversations transmitted by satellite. Intelligence agencies intercepted some of those calls. The government in Jerusalem then used the information obtained in international negotiations aiming to reach a diplomatic solution in the Middle East.

I’d like to act all outraged and shit, but these days when a representative of a large nation state talks on open comms then they’ve pretty much abandoned any reasonable expectation of privacy. I get that Angela Merkel’s Germany doesn’t agree, and has a kind of pollyanna view of blue on blue intelligence gathering, but in the real world this shit happens.

94 Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2014 3:47:30pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

I’d like to act all outraged and shit, but these days when a representative of a large nation state talks on open comms then they’ve pretty much abandoned any reasonable expectation of privacy. I get that Angela Merkel’s Germany agree, and has a kind of pollyanna view of blue on blue intelligence gathering, but in the real world this shit happens.

What’s unfortunate is they probably used what he said not to help with peace, but to scuttle it.

95 goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2014 3:51:16pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

What’s unfortunate is they probably used what he said not to help with peace, but to scuttle it.

Yeah well, it’s like tripping Sisyphus, one way or another that stone is destined to roll back down. The Israel-Palestinian situation exists to drive Secretaries of State to drink. Hillary was smart to get out of the job when she did.

96 sagehen  Aug 3, 2014 4:14:23pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

It was parody, except it wasn’t.

Hopefully they are divorced.

I was gonna say, hopefully it was a prologue to a chapter that continued with “and then I learned what I was doing wrong, and what I needed to do to be a better husband to this very patient woman who absolutely deserved better…”

But I realized how unlikely that was.

It probably continues with “this is why we homeschool our kids and don’t let them have friends outside our own little creepy cult, because God forbid they should learn that normal couples don’t live this way.”


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