Tuesday Night Songwriter: James Taylor, the Frozen Man

Don’t leave ‘em nothing to work on
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This is from James Taylor’s “One Man Band” tour, even though there was a piano player so it wasn’t technically one man. But it’s a gorgeous version of one of his most moving songs, “The Frozen Man.” (I like this version much better than the original.)

Recorded at a three-night stint at the Colonial Theatre in Pittsfield, MA, during July 2007

Last thing I remember is the freezing cold
Water reaching up just to swallow me whole
Ice in the rigging and howling wind
Shock to my body as we tumbled in
My brothers and the others were lost at sea
I alone am returned to tell thee
Hidden in ice for a century
I walk the world again
Lord have mercy on the frozen man

Next words that were spoken to me
Nurse asked me what my name might be
She was all in white at the foot of my bed
I said angel of mercy, I’m alive! or am I dead…
My name is William James McPhee
I was born in 1823
I was raised in Liverpool by the sea
But that ain’t who I am
Lord have mercy I’m the frozen man

It took a lot of money to start my heart
Just to peg my leg and to buy my eye
The newspapers call me state of the art
And the children, when they see me, cry

I thought it’d be nice just to visit my grave
See what kind of tombstone I might have
There lay the wife and daughter and it seemed so strange, so strange
Both of them dead and gone from extreme old age
I say, when I die make sure I’m gone
Don’t leave ‘em nothing to work on
You can raise your arm, you can wiggle your hand (unlike myself)
So you can wave goodbye to the frozen man, goodbye

I know what it means to freeze to death
To lose a little life with every breath
To say goodbye to life on earth
And come around again
Lord have mercy on the frozen man
God have mercy on the frozen man

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411 comments
1 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:01:12pm

I didn’t realize Taylor was such a picker.
I’ll have to pay more attention to him.

2 Amory Blaine  Aug 5, 2014 9:03:04pm

He also has some non-traditional chord shapes that he uses.

3 Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2014 9:04:57pm

re: #1 b_sharp

I didn’t realize Taylor was such a picker.
I’ll have to pay more attention to him.

He’s a great guitar player. Most people don’t realize how good he is.

4 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:10:57pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

He’s a great guitar player. Most people don’t realize how good he is.

I’m afraid I’ve paid very little attention to him. I spent most of my youth listening to Zep, Sabbath and other acid rock. Since then I’ve been listening to new wave grunge and jazz.

Time to expand my horizons.

5 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:17:32pm

I picked up one of my acoustics today after about a year. My fingertips have really gone soft.

6 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 5, 2014 9:19:01pm

Been on a Bones binge on Netflix, 6 episodes in a row (five from season 1 and 1 from season 2). Fun show.

I haven’t had dinner yet, may skip it completely.

7 SpaceJesus  Aug 5, 2014 9:24:52pm

Neil DeGrasse Tyson made a facebook post today defending GMO, and it went exactly as how you would expect in the comments.

facebook.com

8 teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2014 9:25:14pm
9 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:26:16pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

Neil DeGrasse Tyson made a facebook post today defending GMO, and it went exactly as how you would expect in the comments.

facebook.com

The derp runs deep with the anti-GMO crowd.

10 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:27:56pm

re: #9 Gus

The derp runs deep with the anti-GMO crowd.

they worry about imaginary boogeymen.

11 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:30:54pm

re: #10 b_sharp

they worry about imaginary boogeymen.

2 headed babies. //

12 Kragar  Aug 5, 2014 9:36:28pm

Benedict Cumberbatch impersonates Jar Jar Binks

Youtube Video

13 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:40:13pm

But like I said on Twitter. That doesn’t mean GMOs should be unregulated. If people want labels then fine. We could put labels on people showing all the chemicals they contain. //

14 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:40:23pm

Also… glutenfreesingles.com

15 teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2014 9:42:51pm

OMG WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

(full disclosure: I live in Eagle County)

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2014 9:45:48pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Well we ARE all going to die…

…eventually.

/

17 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:46:15pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Well we ARE all going to die…

…eventually.

/

GLUTEN
M
O

18 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:47:48pm

FUKUSHIMA!

19 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2014 9:47:51pm

As most of you know by now I have a poetry blog. I am pleased to report it’s been going well so far. I’m on track to break 1000 views shortly and I’ve recently expanded my posts to more than just poems. My recent post is the first on a series exploring poetic themes and storytelling in general, this one focused on good vs. evil. Here’s a snippet:

If white represents the ultimate good guy, than there’s a large percentage of “good guys” and indeed humans in general that have never and will never reach this ideal. If black represents ultimate evil the same is true. A “good guy” can have a bad day. A “good guy” can get angry, he can lash out, he can become hurtful depending on circumstances. In the same way a villain can show sympathy or even do ethical things based on a variety of factors.

Of course this all leads to shades of grey where the sides come together and we get a more representative picture of humanity.

But I think we’ve missed something.

While a definite step in the right direction “shades of grey” leaves a lot to desire when considering the entire breadth of the human experience. When you consider all the things that make us who we are, from the physical to the emotional to the spiritual and even the technological you come across multiple layers, multiple worldviews and multiple branches of our existence that cannot be classed as merely black, white or grey.

The ethics and values by which we choose to live our lives are seldom absolutes. There are thousands of different moral codes and philosophical systems out there that span not just black or white but an entire spectrum.

The entire post can be found here.

20 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:48:08pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Well we ARE all going to die…

…eventually.

/

And shit happens.

21 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 9:48:44pm

gfsoap.com

22 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:48:53pm

re: #18 Gus

FUKUSHIMA!

Fuku who?

23 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2014 9:49:24pm

re: #20 b_sharp

And shit happens.

Pretty much. If you spent all your time thinking about all the different things that could possibly kill you you’d probably end up worrying yourself to DEATH.

24 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:49:40pm

re: #21 Gus

gfsoap.com

When did people start eating soap?

25 teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2014 9:49:45pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Well we ARE all going to die…

…eventually.

/

Out of the people that ever were, almost all of them are dead. There are way more dead people, and you’re all gonna die and you’re gonna be dead for way longer than you’re alive. Like that’s mostly what you’re ever gonna be. You’re just dead people that didn’t die yet.

-Louis C.K.

26 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2014 9:49:58pm

re: #22 b_sharp

Fuku who?

Hey! Up yours pal!

27 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:50:18pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Pretty much. If you spent all your time thinking about all the different things that could possibly kill you you’d probably end up worrying yourself to DEATH.

I did that years ago.

28 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2014 9:53:59pm

re: #27 b_sharp

My mother used to be the WORST. She’s come around a little bit but she’s still bad.

29 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:54:30pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

My mother used to be the WORST. She’s come around a little bit but she’s still bad.

I got better.

30 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 10:00:29pm

Thread done died.

31 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 10:05:21pm

re: #30 b_sharp

Thread done died.

Drugs.

32 teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2014 10:08:50pm

re: #30 b_sharp

Thread done died.

Why, just go to where the thread will never die, Twitter!
/

33 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 10:11:02pm

I’m going to try to sleep.

34 Gus  Aug 5, 2014 10:11:54pm

re: #33 b_sharp

I’m going to try to sleep.

Watch out for the Brillo.

35 teleskiguy  Aug 5, 2014 10:39:16pm

How about some subversive shit from last month?

36 Single-handed sailor  Aug 5, 2014 11:07:34pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

How about some subversive shit from last month?

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Once a month I hope.

37 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 12:14:03am

re: #35 teleskiguy

I’m going to say something political. I think the government should give every adult citizen an ounce of cannabis, will solve all drug stuff

Throw in a gram of coke and you got a deal!

38 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 1:03:54am

the thread has obviously fallen into a drug-induced coma.

39 ausador  Aug 6, 2014 1:06:27am

re: #7 SpaceJesus

Neil DeGrasse Tyson made a facebook post today defending GMO, and it went exactly as how you would expect in the comments.

facebook.com

From the comments there, unfortunately also true far too often.

Arguing Science Online

40 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 1:08:45am

And now in an easy to use tweet form:

41 ausador  Aug 6, 2014 1:09:45am

re: #21 Gus

gfsoap.com

I see your gluten free soap and raise you…

Cholesterol-free too!

42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 1:20:10am

re: #41 ausador

I see your gluten free soap and raise you…

Cholesterol-free too!

I raise you a bag of Monkey Nuts withdrawn because they lacked a warning that they might contain peanuts

43 ausador  Aug 6, 2014 1:28:26am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I raise you a bag of Monkey Nuts withdrawn because they lacked a warning that they might contain peanuts

Why would you have to stick a label on a clear bag of peanuts to tell people that they may contain…peanuts? If they are that stupid then I say we should let them go ahead and compete for the Darwin award.

44 Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2014 1:30:14am

Beautiful

Youtube Video

45 goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2014 1:46:27am

If anybody’s interested here’s an article from Aviation Week that gives some background on the Buk anti air missile system, shedding some light on the technical aspects of the Malaysian Air shoot down. It answers the biggest question I had, why the crew didn’t recognize the plane’s civilian transponder.

The designers of the replacement Buk system had anticipated this problem. In addition to a new radar vehicle - the Phazotron 9S18M, Snow Drift to NATO - they fitted each launch vehicle with its own X-band multi-mode radar, under a radome on the front of the rotating launch platform. The vehicle is defined as a transporter/erector/launcher and radar (Telar). Similar to a fighter radar, the Telar radar (known to NATO as Fire Dome) has search, track and illuminator functions and can scan through a 120-deg. arc, independent of the movement of the platform.

This feature may have been a crucial factor in the destruction of MH17. The Fire Dome radar’s main job was to permit simultaneous engagement of more targets - one per Telar - under control of the battery’s 9S18M Snow Drift. But the Soviet military and the designers installed a set of backup modes that would permit the Telars to detect and attack targets autonomously, in the event the Snow Drift was shut down or destroyed by NATO’s rapidly improving anti-radar missiles.

The autonomous modes are intended for last-ditch use by the Telar operators, not the more highly trained crews in the battery command vehicle. According to an experienced analyst of Russian-developed radar, the automatic radar modes display targets within range. The operator can then command the system to lock up the target, illuminate and shoot.

Critically, these backup modes also bypass two safety features built into the 9S18M Snow Drift radar: a full-function identification friend-or-foe (IFF) system and non-cooperative target recognition (NCTR) modes. The IFF system uses a separate interrogator located above the main radar antenna and most likely will have been upgraded to current civilian standards.

Basically the Buks operated by the rebels probably were not being used in their originally intended role, as part of a larger battery of vehicles under the control of the “Snow Drift” radar command vehicle, which has those specialized systems designed to discriminate targets. Instead they were being operated in what amounted to a desperation mode, designed so that launcher vehicle crews could fight on, albeit wildly, in scenarios where their battery’s command and control were no longer available.

The whole thing is kind of a fractal of the larger leadership and professionalism gap on the part of the pro-Russian forces operating in Eastern Ukraine.

46 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 1:48:54am

DKos has a good rec-list article stomping on the anti-GMO cavemen.

47 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 1:50:44am

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

That has already been known though.

48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 1:51:54am

re: #46 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

DKos has a good rec-list article stomping on the anti-GMO cavemen.

Here is the catch: GMO + unregulated free market = ecological disaster

and we know how our government not only leans, but pushes other countries to deregulate their markets

49 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 1:56:54am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

All the food you eat is GMO. The disaster is nowhere to be seen.

50 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 2:00:02am

51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 2:03:22am

re: #49 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

All the food you eat is GMO. The disaster is nowhere to be seen.

I am not anti-GMO, I am just very cautions of letting short-term profit be the sole motivating force in their use.

52 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 2:43:41am

see? GMOs just killed the thread

53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 2:46:57am

It was euthanasia.

54 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 2:51:32am

Morning Lizards.

Being as it’s the first Wednesday of the month, the air raid sirens will be going off 10 minutes from now, at noon.

Always something to look forward to.

55 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 2:53:59am

re: #53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It was euthanasia.

what’s wrong with youth in Asia?

56 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 2:56:49am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

what’s wrong with youth in Asia?

-_-

58 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 3:10:33am

re: #57 Varek Raith

The SPLC notes that The Political Cesspool’s guest roster reads like a “Who’s Who” of radical racists, with guests like “Holocaust denier Mark Weber, Canadian white supremacist Paul Fromm, American Renaissance editor Jared Taylor, neo-Nazi activist April Gaede,” and “anti-Semitic professor Kevin MacDonald.”

…

Cumia responded by saying, “I really want to just hang out with you and drink a few beers and talk for a while. We are on the same page, my friend.”

Those who are on the same page with Cumia are also on the same page with Edwards and all that entails.

59 freetoken  Aug 6, 2014 3:16:29am

MP3 Audio

60 Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2014 3:34:44am

re: #7 SpaceJesus

Neil DeGrasse Tyson made a facebook post today defending GMO, and it went exactly as how you would expect in the comments.

facebook.com

MONSANTO GOT TO HIM!!1!!

61 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 3:38:59am

Here is that DNR kid from a few days ago.

Youtube Video

62 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 3:43:48am

It’s obviously untrue that only the far right are anti-scientific vandals. There are plenty of the far left cooks too.

The diff. is that the former are supported by the GOP, while the far left cooks don’t find much support in the Dem party.

63 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 3:47:23am

The GOP rebranding into a white supremacist party continues apace:

GOP Rep.: Discrimination Against Whites Is All Federal Law Permits

On Tuesday, Brooks told USA Today that “if you look at current federal law, there is only one skin color that you can lawfully discriminate against. That’s Caucasians — whites.”

And in an interview on NewsmaxTV’s “The Steve Malzberg Show” on Tuesday, the congressman made a similar comment.

“Embedded in federal statutes, what is the one race that can be discriminated against? As a matter of law. What is it?” he asked, according to a clip recorded by Mediaite.

“White males?” Steve Malzberg asked in response.

“Not just white males, but all whites,” Brooks then responded.

64 A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2014 4:04:24am

re: #63 Lidane

What a bunch of whining bullshit. Fearmongering, ignorant, manipulative, STUPID bullshit. I would love for this idiot to tell me about all his oppression. Let me guess, he can’t use racial slurs in public without being called a racist douchebag. Boo. Fucking. Hoo. Let me find him a cookie. Oops, I’m fresh out of cookies.

65 Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2014 4:04:28am

re: #63 Lidane

The GOP rebranding into a white supremacist party continues apace:

GOP Rep.: Discrimination Against Whites Is All Federal Law Permits

Not to mention being wrong on the law as it exists.

66 Decatur Deb  Aug 6, 2014 4:08:23am

re: #24 b_sharp

When did people start eating soap?

Went through a laundry’s worth before I was five.

67 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 4:12:49am

re: #66 Decatur Deb

Went through a laundry’s worth before I was five.

I gather, you used to be a foul-mouthed lil’ toddler, but the soap made a gentleman out of you! ;)

68 Decatur Deb  Aug 6, 2014 4:28:12am

re: #67 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I gather, you used to be a foul-mouthed lil’ toddler, but the soap made a gentleman out of you! ;)

Then I ran into LGF.

69 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 4:28:25am

That is a beautiful song I have never heard before.

70 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 4:29:40am

Yesterday while it was still a fast day I baked a bunch of French bread. I ended up with so much that my co-workers are having baguettes for breakfast.

71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 4:30:32am

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

Yesterday while it was still a fast day I baked a bunch of French bread. I ended up with so much that my co-workers are having baguettes for breakfast.

So you’re the Lord of Bread too!

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 4:31:17am

re: #71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So you’re the Lord of Bread too!

Man does not live by pie alone.

73 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 4:33:11am

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

Man does not live by pie alone.

Yes, he can also eat cake.

74 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 4:40:38am
75 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 4:44:23am

Hmm, a day of intrigues. People have accused LGF of a lot but boring it isn’t. Hope a new day finds everyone well.

76 wheat-dogghazi  Aug 6, 2014 4:56:10am

Greetings from Providence, RI, lizards! I’m taking advantage of a lull in activity to say howdy. Next stop is NYC, then Toronto. All goes well. Hope you’re doing fine, too.

77 Romantic Heretic  Aug 6, 2014 4:56:18am

re: #9 Gus

The derp runs deep with the anti-GMO crowd.

I’d contribute myself, but I’ve already been lambasted for trying to say, “We should be careful.” Like Israel there is no middle ground and trying to balance out the various threads to achieve a wise direction will simply make you hated by almost everybody involved.

78 Romantic Heretic  Aug 6, 2014 4:57:40am

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Well we ARE all going to die…

…eventually.

/

I’ve already lived about twenty years longer than I should have. It really was a miracle that I managed to get free of hanging from my own belt and get some help.

79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:04:06am

re: #62 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s obviously untrue that only the far right are anti-scientific vandals. There are plenty of the far left cooks too.

The diff. is that the former are supported by the GOP, while the far left cooks don’t find much support in the Dem party.

And the anti-science types are fine with science if it is there to make money or build weapons. Just not if it is there to protect the environment or to refute their literalist interpretation of Scripture.

80 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 6, 2014 5:04:08am

re: #50 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sprouts are also still alive when you eat them. Gruesome. I sometimes can imagine I hear their tiny little screams as I masticate.

81 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 5:05:12am

re: #80 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Sprouts are also still alive when you eat them. Gruesome. I sometimes can imagine I hear their tiny little screams as I masticate.

Tomatoes are alive! They bleed when you slice them!

Corn screams when you strip it.

82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:05:45am

re: #77 Romantic Heretic

I’d contribute myself, but I’ve already been lambasted for trying to say, “We should be careful.” Like Israel there is no middle ground and trying to balance out the various threads to achieve a wise direction will simply make you hated by almost everybody involved.

Like I said, I am not categorically anti-GMO, but they are definitely not something that can be entrusted to the unregulated free market without risking dire consequences.

83 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 5:06:48am

re: #53 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It was euthanasia.

Some teen in Taiwan acting out again?
//

84 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 5:08:09am

re: #62 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s obviously untrue that only the far right are anti-scientific vandals. There are plenty of the far left cooks too.

The diff. is that the former are supported by the GOP, while the far left cooks don’t find much support in the Dem party.

I guess it depends on whether or not they’re willing to use GMO ingredients in their recipes.
;)

85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:10:30am

re: #80 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

There is a Russian sorta rhyme: “And we in Ryazan have mushrooms with eyes - one eats them, they look.”

86 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:11:29am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

what’s wrong with youth in Asia?

re: #83 Feline Fearless Leader

Some teen in Taiwan acting out again?
//

*whack*

87 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 5:11:32am

Without genetically modified crops, and not to bring up Malthus again, the exponential growth in population would have to try and feed itself with an unaltered source of food, the yield of which grows only geometrically. With a fairly predictable result expressed well enough in the form of horsemen.

88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:15:41am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Like I said, I am not categorically anti-GMO, but they are definitely not something that can be entrusted to the unregulated free market without risking dire consequences.

Sure, just as you wouldn’t entrust anything to an unregulated market. GMO isn’t more special in this respect than, say, “organic” meat.

89 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 5:19:41am

re: #85 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

There is a Russian sorta rhyme: “And we in Ryazan have mushrooms with eyes - one its them, they look.”

I read in a totally respectable publication, Fortean Times that the transformation of Saint Nikolas into Santa has its roots in the tribes of the steppes and forests of Russia whose religious rites included the shaman consuming the mushroom, Fly Agaric, its colours being red and white, and undergoing the hallucinogenic transformation, flies up to the ancestors and returns back into the yurt through the round opening in the top (the chimney) with presents of wisdom from beyond.

Thought it was a cool origin for the story, not so sure of its accuracy. Any parallels in Russian culture?

90 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:21:24am

A bunch of idiots in the comments screams that Israel commits genocide and that they have over 9000 arguments for that thesis. They even quote the official definition - the one that requires intent and thus refutes them. Stupid lemmings.

dailykos.com

91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:22:24am

re: #89 Alyosha

Don’t read Fortean Times.

92 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 5:22:55am

re: #87 Alyosha

Without genetically modified crops, and not to bring up Malthus again, the exponential growth in population would have to try and feed itself with an unaltered source of food, the yield of which grows only geometrically. With a fairly predictable result expressed well enough in the form of horsemen.

Yup. In biology, it is also known as a ‘J’ population curve. It is not loved nor liked, because it always ends in an extinction pulse —regardless of species— when the population exceeds the capacity of the environment to sustain it. I think there also are examples of such extinction pulses being 100% and affecting other species in the animal kingdom. Four horsemen indeed.


A ‘S’ population curve, which tapers off when population reaches environmental capacity is much more sustainable than exponential growth.
Also, as I have a background in electronics and computer programming, and also have some education in math, physics, chemistry and biology, I have learned to dislike anything which grows or behaves exponentially, as it always slams into hard limits sooner than you expect it. Albert A. Bartlett put it wisely:
“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”

93 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 6, 2014 5:22:59am

re: #90 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The misuse of ‘genocide’, ‘pogrom’, and ‘apartheid’ is just stupid and so short-sighted.

94 A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2014 5:23:16am

Would hybridized foods like some tomatoes be considered GMO? Because if they are, that’s going to narrow one’s food choices considerably. When I was a kid, my grandparents (both raised on real family farms with diverse crops) had a greenhouse. They grew food in a one acre garden too. That stuff supplemented their retirement. My grandpa hybridized his own yellow tomato when I was a kid. Sadly the seeds were not ever saved properly and the tomato died with him.

I’m all for home gardens and heirloom everything, from chickens to tomatoes to pigs and cows, cucumbers,apples, etc, etc. But not everyone has the luxury or knowledge to grow/raise those things. As in all things, science can be carried to a destructive extreme, so maybe instead of the purists freaking out about stuff they should look at what actual scientists have to say about it. I get weary of the panic over GMOs, gluten free, carbs, and so on. I have one friend who is actually terrified of eating carbs. Her word, TERRIFIED. Really? I felt like eating a cookie in front of her just for fun. Is that mean? Heh.

95 freetoken  Aug 6, 2014 5:25:56am

re: #90 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Were the Homestead Acts acts of genocide?

96 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 5:26:30am

re: #94 A Mom Anon

Would hybridized foods like some tomatoes be considered GMO? Because if they are, that’s going to narrow one’s food choices considerably. When I was a kid, my grandparents (both raised on real family farms with diverse crops) had a greenhouse. They grew food in a one acre garden too. That stuff supplemented their retirement. My grandpa hybridized his own yellow tomato when I was a kid. Sadly the seeds were not ever saved properly and the tomato died with him.

I’m all for home gardens and heirloom everything, from chickens to tomatoes to pigs and cows, cucumbers,apples, etc, etc. But not everyone has the luxury or knowledge to grow/raise those things. As in all things, science can be carried to a destructive extreme, so maybe instead of the purists freaking out about stuff they should look at what actual scientists have to say about it. I get weary of the panic over GMOs, gluten free, carbs, and so on. I have one friend who is actually terrified of eating carbs. Her word, TERRIFIED. Really? I felt like eating a cookie in front of her just for fun. Is that mean? Heh.

You can’t bake pie without carbs & gluten.

97 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 5:26:44am

re: #91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Don’t read Fortean Times.

I hear ya ;)

I think I enjoy their attempt to find reason in weird phenomena and sometimes approach it. They’ve trashed claims of scientists proving cold fusion. But they’ve also embraced pseudo-scientific cranks as well. The tension between real and unreal is too English for me to resist!

98 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 5:28:42am

My problem with the anti GMO crowd is that a lot of them indulge in pseudo-science and outright conspiracies to make their ‘point’.
If I had a nickel for every time ‘Monsanto’ came up…..

99 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:28:47am

re: #88 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sure, just as you wouldn’t entrust anything to an unregulated market. GMO isn’t more special in this respect than, say, “organic” meat.

There are people ready to entrust EVERYTHING to an unregulated market.

100 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:29:51am

re: #98 Varek Raith

My problem with the anti GMO crowd is that a lot of them indulge in pseudo-science and outright conspiracies to make their ‘point’.
If I had a nickel for every time ‘Monsanto’ came up.

Monsanto gets a nickel every time a tomato plant pops up…

101 The War TARDIS  Aug 6, 2014 5:30:06am

Apparently, the woman who will be the first full time assistant coach in the NBA is a Putin lover.

In 2008, after learning that, once again, she would not be invited to try out for the US national team, Hammon announced she would try to claim a roster slot on the Russian national team in the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Hammon became a Russian citizen in 2008.

102 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 5:30:43am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Monsanto gets a nickel every time a tomato plant pops up…

Then make that point.
Far too often they go off in to Alex Jones territory.

103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:30:57am

re: #98 Varek Raith

And I wouldn’t really know, but from what I could gather, Monsanto aren’t good guys by most measures. But wtf it has to do with the science?

It’s like homeopaths whining about the “Big Pharma”.

104 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 5:32:00am

re: #103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And I wouldn’t really know, but from what I could gather, Monsanto aren’t good guys by most measures. But wtf it has to do with the science?

It’s like homeopaths whining about the “Big Pharma”.

That’s another fun one.
Sigh.

105 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:32:18am

re: #101 The War TARDIS

Apparently, the woman who will be the first full time assistant coach in the NBA is a Putin lover.

So who was the “wise guy” that hired this person?

106 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 5:32:53am

re: #103 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And I wouldn’t really know, but from what I could gather, Monsanto aren’t good guys by most measures. But wtf it has to do with the science?

It’s like homeopaths whining about the “Big Pharma”.

They’ve understood the moral of the three Iron Man movies. The greatest threat to western civilization is industrialists.

107 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:32:55am

My Pharma is way bigger than yours.

108 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 5:33:17am

re: #107 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

My Pharma is way bigger than yours.

That’s not what she said…

109 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 5:33:51am

re: #92 Teukka

Yup. In biology, it is also known as a ‘J’ population curve. It is not loved nor liked, because it always ends in an extinction pulse —regardless of species— when the population exceeds the capacity of the environment to sustain it. I think there also are examples of such extinction pulses being 100% and affecting other species in the animal kingdom. Four horsemen indeed.

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A ‘S’ population curve, which tapers off when population reaches environmental capacity is much more sustainable than exponential growth.
Also, as I have a background in electronics and computer programming, and also have some education in math, physics, chemistry and biology, I have learned to dislike anything which grows or behaves exponentially, as it always slams into hard limits sooner than you expect it. Albert A. Bartlett put it wisely:
“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”

The idea of exponential population growth in human society also only holds up if we ignore how education and economic development can cause declines leading to new problems such as how to adequately provide for an increasingly disproportionate aged demographic. I’m just trying to keep up here, I recognise the trends but haven’t the same intellectual understanding of the minutiae.

BTW, watched your link to the BBC programme, ‘The Day the Earth Almost Died’. Didn’t have nightmares, but it was a good primer.

110 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 5:34:29am

While I’m in a ranting mood…
Dear media, no, we aren’t all going to die from Ebola. Stop it.

111 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 5:35:28am

re: #110 Varek Raith

While I’m in a ranting mood…
Dear media, no, we aren’t all going to die from Ebola. Stop it.

Though sometimes they’re so bad they make our eyes bleed.
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112 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 5:35:51am

re: #110 Varek Raith

While I’m in a ranting mood…
Dear media, no, we aren’t all going to die from Ebola. Stop it.

Or at least not all of you./

113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:36:35am

Point is, food and agricultural land are not just commodities to be left to an unregulated market. I believe that market mechanisms should play a role in developing and exploiting agricultural land, as well as distributing produce, but no modern nation on earth leaves them completely unregulated.

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 5:40:56am

re: #101 The War TARDIS

Apparently, the woman who will be the first full time assistant coach in the NBA is a Putin lover.

Athletes who don’t qualify for the Olympics in their home country will try to get on teams in other countries, it has nothing to do with “loving” that country. The South Korean skater also joined the Russian team.

115 makeitstop  Aug 6, 2014 5:41:21am

re: #105 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So who was the “wise guy” that hired this person?

Despite the Russian connection (and IMO, calling her a ‘Putin lover’ is a bit of a stretch - NBA/WNBA players playing for a foreign team in international competition is pretty commonplace), her signing as an assistant coach by an NBA franchise is a pretty big deal.

She’s the first woman to hold that position on an NBA franchise. And the San Antonio Spurs organization is top-flight, period. They’ve been ahead of the curve in just about every aspect of scouting and coaching, and their success (current NBA champs) illustrates it perfectly.

It’s a class move by a class organization if you ask me. Even my wife, who isn’t much of an NBA fan, was impressed by the audacity of this move.

116 Mike Lamb  Aug 6, 2014 5:41:45am

re: #101 The War TARDIS

Apparently, the woman who will be the first full time assistant coach in the NBA is a Putin lover.

How do you make that conclusion based on the excerpt you provided?

117 Mike Lamb  Aug 6, 2014 5:43:21am

re: #115 makeitstop

Despite the Russian connection (and IMO, calling her a ‘Putin lover’ is a bit of a stretch - NBA/WNBA players playing for a foreign team in international competition is pretty commonplace), her signing as an assistant coach by an NBA franchise is a pretty big deal.

She’s the first woman to hold that position on an NBA franchise. And the San Antonio Spurs organization is top-flight, period. They’ve been ahead of the curve in just about every aspect of scouting and coaching, and their success (current NBA champs) illustrates it perfectly.

It’s a class move by a class organization if you ask me. Even my wife, who isn’t much of an NBA fan, was impressed by the audacity of this move.

In addition, most WNBA players play abroad, particularly in Russia, during the offseason because the European/Asian leagues pay better.

118 Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2014 5:43:30am

re: #116 Mike Lamb

How do you make that conclusion based on the excerpt you provided?

He omits one of the following paragraphs too:

Hammon responded to Donovan’s criticism saying, “You don’t know me. You don’t know what that flag means to me. You don’t know how I grew up. The biggest honor in our classroom was who could put up the (American) flag, roll it up right, not let the corners touch the ground. Obviously we definitely define patriotism differently.” She has also stated. “I love my country. I love our national anthem. It absolutely gives me chills sometimes. I feel honored to be an American, to be from America because of what we stand for.”[8] Hammon said she played for Russia primarily to play on the Olympic stage, and it was not a purely financial decision. Although by obtaining Russian citizenship, her salary with CSKA tripled, and she was eligible to make $250,000 for winning a gold medal for Russia. She would have received a $150,000 bonus for winning a silver medal.[8]

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 5:46:02am

I’m thinking I would rather make a cake this week instead of pie.

What kind of cake?

120 The War TARDIS  Aug 6, 2014 5:47:32am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

I would be fine with just about any other country.

But Russia will get different treatment. The way Russia has behaved for 6+ years means I am suspicious of her loyalties.

121 Jayleia  Aug 6, 2014 5:47:41am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

A cake with pie icing.

122 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 5:48:36am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m thinking I would rather make a cake this week instead of pie.

What kind of cake?

Carrot Cake would be nice.

123 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:49:02am

re: #120 The War TARDIS

I would be fine with just about any other country.

But Russia will get different treatment. The way Russia has behaved for 6+ years means I am suspicious of her loyalties.

I don’t conflate professional sports (and Olympic coaching is professional sports) with anything other than business.

124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:49:57am

re: #122 Bubblehead II

Carrot Cake would be nice.

With cream cheese dressing

125 makeitstop  Aug 6, 2014 5:54:28am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t conflate professional sports (and Olympic coaching is professional sports) with anything other than business.

Exactly. More broad-brush guilt by association crap.

Sports is a business, period. Especially on Becky Hammon’s level.

Her hire is, simply put, historic. These attempts to tarnish it are ludicrous, IMO.

126 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 5:55:02am

re: #109 Alyosha

The idea of exponential population growth in human society also only holds up if we ignore how education and economic development can cause declines leading to new problems such as how to adequately provide for an increasingly disproportionate aged demographic. I’m just trying to keep up here, I recognise the trends but haven’t the same intellectual understanding of the minutiae.

Also, exponential population growth (or any exponential growth when I think about it) also ignores that the real world/universe has hard limits. I mean, for the population growth, energy, environment and economy does have hard limits which will we will hit like a wasp hitting the windscreen of a Lamborghini at speed if we don’t slow the fuck down.
I guess the prospect of being a dead and wet smear of entrails on something which barely noticed it hit us isn’t realistic enough for some. *smh*
re: #109 Alyosha

BTW, watched your link to the BBC programme, ‘The Day the Earth Almost Died’. Didn’t have nightmares, but it was a good primer.

You have nightmares when you know people in the climatology field, more and more of them are privately voicing fears that we might be further along in climate change than expected, and that we are already beyond the point of no return.

127 The War TARDIS  Aug 6, 2014 5:55:02am

re: #120 The War TARDIS

Let me put it another way. Me and every other Muslim in the US have to prove our loyalty to the US every single day in the face of massive public suspicion.

Yet, she can get a Russian Passport, a nation emulating Hitler’s Germany, and no one questions her? I find this insane, and insulting.

128 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 5:57:05am

re: #127 The War TARDIS

Let me put it another way. Me and every other Muslim in the US have to prove our loyalty to the US every single day in the face golf massive public suspicion.

Yet, she can get a Russian Passport, a nation emulating Hitler’s Germany, and no one questions her? I find this insane, and insulting.

I think your tar brush is running dry - you better dip it into the bucket again.
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129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 5:58:55am

re: #127 The War TARDIS

Lots of companies and individuals still do business with Russia, even despite sanctions. All just business.

130 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 6:00:32am

re: #98 Varek Raith

My problem with the anti GMO crowd is that a lot of them indulge in pseudo-science and outright conspiracies to make their ‘point’.

In my experience, a lot of the folks that are rabidly anti-GMO also tend to be the hardcore organic food, farmers market/locavore types. Some of them will rail about the evils of gluten, meat, pasteurized milk, and anything that doesn’t fit into their current fad diet. Some of the more woo-woo types will also rant about vaccines.

If I had a nickel for every time ‘Monsanto’ came up…..

A lot of my friends on both sides of the political aisle are anti-Monsanto, but that has more to do with the Brio Superfund site that had a huge impact on them when we were kids than anything GMO-related. The GMO stuff is just an added bonus to their grievances.

131 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 6:02:49am

re: #127 The War TARDIS

It’s too early for Godwin.

She is the first female NBA coach and the San Antonio Spurs are awesome for hiring her. It’s historic, dude. Anything else is details.

132 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:03:03am

re: #130 Lidane

A natural outcome as long as we have a health care industry that has almost nothing to do with nutrition and a food industry that has almost nothing to do with health.

133 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 6:04:33am

re: #126 Teukka

You have nightmares when you know people in the climatology field, more and more of them are privately voicing fears that we might be further along in climate change than expected, and that we are already beyond the point of no return.

I have nightmares that people don’t understand that history has no objective, that there isn’t some deus ex machina ready to snatch us up when things get hairy, that the world and universe has zero respect for life. Its indifference is the only reason we’re here.
Thanks for the posts on Mother Nature’s ‘Second Amendment’, I’m definitely using the content for my occasional rant against the ignorant. As a point of principle, I let no ignorant statement on climate change stand unopposed.

134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:10:00am

re: #133 Alyosha

The other point is that we live within a very, very narrow band of climatic tolerance…it will not take much of a shift to vastly lower the Earth’s ability to sustain such an enormous population.

135 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 6:11:51am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The other point is that we live in a very, very narrow band of climatic tolerance…it will not take much of a shift to vastly lower the Earth’s ability to sustain such an enormous population.

“Eh, what’s a few degrees?”

136 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:12:41am

re: #135 Alyosha

“Eh, what’s a few degrees?”

nothing over the long run, we will most likely be able to adapt and change.

But over the short run we could face chaos.

137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:15:24am

re: #115 makeitstop

and IMO, calling her a ‘Putin lover’ is a bit of a stretch - NBA/WNBA players playing for a foreign team in international competition is pretty commonplace

Becoming a citizen of the state you’re playing for also?

138 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:16:36am

re: #137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Becoming a citizen of the state you’re playing for also?

Is that not a condition for doing so?

139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:18:07am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Is that not a condition for doing so?

No idea, but smacks of prostitution.

140 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:20:16am

re: #139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No idea, but smacks of prostitution.

My buddy gave up his US citizenship for a German one simply because it made it easier for him to take up jobs in various other EU countries without having to go through an enormous bureaucratic hassle each time he moved shop.

141 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:22:20am
142 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 6:23:20am

re: #130 Lidane

And that’s what drives me nuts. They don’t need to resort to anti-science nonsense and conspiracies. It destroys and good points they may have had.

143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:23:41am

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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I’m outta facepalms.

144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:25:00am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My buddy gave up his US citizenship for a German one simply because it made it easier for him to take up jobs in various other EU countries without having to go through an enormous bureaucratic hassle each time he moved shop.

It’s different. I take it he won’t have it back the moment he’s tired of Europe.

145 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 6:25:09am

re: #141 Charles Johnson

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#YouMightBeAGlennbot if you admire the way Glenn Greenwald relentlessly pursues his opponents for opinions they held years ago, but ignore his own previous contradictory positions.

146 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 6:25:42am

All nationalism is such bullshit. I get that Russia is the bete noir for now, but when did she become a citizen? And if being a citizen, with her range of talents, gave her more perks, who am I to judge. All work is prostitution to some extent. For athletes this is more true. We do, with what we have, for what we can get. If she worked for the NSA however…

147 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 6:26:34am

re: #143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’m outta facepalms.

Take this desk.

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:26:57am

re: #144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It’s different. I take it he won’t have it back the moment he’s tired of Europe.

He plans to retire here. But his reasons for getting EU citizenship mostly had to do with him first working in Ireland and then in Finland while still owning an apartment in Germany.

149 Mattand  Aug 6, 2014 6:28:07am

I’m still marveling that someone managed to work in the word “prostitution” to describe a woman who just broke a major gender barrier in US professional sports.

150 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 6:28:15am

re: #143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’m outta facepalms.

I’m out of give-a-fucks when it comes to Greenwald. He’s a smug and condescending grifter who’s found a sugar daddy willing to spread his noxious views on the world and he’s shown a willingness to use any source as “evidence” no matter how odious it is. Case in point: using Irving as a source.

151 A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2014 6:29:47am

re: #101 The War TARDIS

No she isn’t. She did it to be on an Olympic team and she’s not the first one to do that. Again with the kneejerk assumptions.

152 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:31:06am

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻┻┻┻┻┻(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻┻┻┻┻┻

153 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 6:31:24am

re: #139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No idea, but smacks of prostitution.

Would you care to expound how this is particularly special compared to anyone pursuing specific certification or other qualifications in order to land employment, housing, or some other targeted goal?

154 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 6:32:11am

re: #152 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sorcery!

155 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 6:33:23am

re: #154 Varek Raith

Sorcery!

But whichever way you toss it it lands on its ass!
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156 A Mom Anon  Aug 6, 2014 6:33:53am

re: #149 Mattand

No shit. Sigh. Just. Sigh.

157 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 6:35:02am

re: #110 Varek Raith

While I’m in a ranting mood…
Dear media, no, we aren’t all going to die from Ebola. Stop it.

We’ve got far more to fear from malaria than Ebola. By several magnitudes.

Most of the cases of “suspected Ebola” by those coming into the US are getting special treatment because protocols are in place to deal with tropical diseases that might be infectious. They’ll often turn out to be minor (the actual flu) or slightly more serious, like malaria, or in one particular case, someone had symptoms and made a full recovery and later saw a report on Marburg and sought to get antibody testing and she did in fact have Marburg - but no one else was infected.

What I don’t get is why anyone would trust Donald Trump’s medical opinions, on well, anything, but yet he gins up fear about Ebola on nothing but fear and wishful thinking. I’d have more to fear from that hair of his than anything else.

158 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:36:19am

re: #153 Feline Fearless Leader

Do I care to explain why getting citizenship is more special than some generic “specific certification”? Nope, I don’t. You’re welcome to disagree.

159 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:38:24am

re: #158 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Do I care to explain why getting citizenship is more special that some generic “specific certification”? Nope, I don’t. You’re welcome to disagree.

it’s just sports. and business. I make very little of it, but you are free to.

160 makeitstop  Aug 6, 2014 6:38:34am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Is that not a condition for doing so?

Yes, it is.

Competitors must be citizens of the country whose NOC enters them into competition. A competitor holding dual citizenship may represent either country in which he’s a citizen, but is barred from representing the other country in future Olympic competition until three years have passed since they represented their original country of choice.

161 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 6:38:52am

re: #149 Mattand

I’m still marveling that someone managed to work in the word “prostitution” to describe a woman who just broke a major gender barrier in US professional sports.

Of course the description applied to any such person regardless of gender, but don’t let that stop you from marveling.

162 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 6:43:36am

re: #158 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Do I care to explain why getting citizenship is more special that some generic “specific certification”? Nope, I don’t. You’re welcome to disagree.

When said citizenship arises to ‘prostitution’ though? Sure, it may’ve garnered her a few extra perks but was Russia under sanction at the time? Nationalism, again, is bullshit. But people are practical and maybe even a little selfish.

163 Patricia Kayden  Aug 6, 2014 6:45:26am

re: #63 Lidane

So according to Brooks, which federal law allows discrimination against White people? I’d really like to know.

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 6:45:35am

re: #162 Alyosha

When said citizenship arises to ‘prostitution’ though? Sure, it may’ve garnered her a few extra perks but was Russia under sanction at the time? Nationalism, again, is bullshit. But people are practical and maybe even a little selfish.

Olympic sports is already a weird and perverse mixture of business and nationalism, that is why I do not make much of anyone’s decision to change nationalities to advance their Olympic athletic career.

165 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 6:48:46am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Olympic sports is already a weird and perverse mixture of business and nationalism, that is why I do not make much of anyone’s decision to change nationalities to advance their Olympic athletic career.

Exact reason why I ignore it. If you want to see the true corrupter of sport, look no further than the degree to which the sponsor can dictate how an athlete conducts him or herself. But, it is a necessary evil. Otherwise it wouldn’t be televised haha

166 Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2014 6:48:54am

re: #63 Lidane

The GOP rebranding into a white supremacist party continues apace:

GOP Rep.: Discrimination Against Whites Is All Federal Law Permits

Whites have suffered greatly in this country at the hands of non-Whites. I weep to think what my white ancestors had to endure from the non-Whites. *weeping*

167 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:53:15am

Read the linked article to see what Greenwald considers merely “harsh criticism of Israel,” that shouldn’t have led to any action.

168 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 6:54:26am

re: #133 Alyosha

I have nightmares that people don’t understand that history has no objective, that there isn’t some deus ex machina ready to snatch us up when things get hairy, that the world and universe has zero respect for life. Its indifference is the only reason we’re here.
Thanks for the posts on Mother Nature’s ‘Second Amendment’, I’m definitely using the content for my occasional rant against the ignorant. As a point of principle, I let no ignorant statement on climate change stand unopposed.

Another colorful second amendment parable to use at the skepdicks: “When Ma Nature goes second amendment and whips out her piece, the fight is most likely over with, because the best mankind can whip out is a soft airgun, an ol’ Ma is toting a Phalanx CIWS.”

169 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 6:55:08am

Just got back from a trip to St. Louis, and if you want to get a primer on civil rights and equal protection under the law, look no further than the courthouse downtown. You can walk into the space that was formerly the courtroom where Dred Scott was put on trial. You can travel a bit to see White Haven, where US Grant lived before the Civil War (and find out that he married into a Southern family that owned slaves), or travel into Illinois and visit Abe Lincoln’s home in Springfield. I’ll have some pictures up soon enough, but suffice to say, the courtroom for Dred Scott leaves a lasting impression on those willing to learn - we are still a world away from truly having equal protection under the law, and minorities are still persecuted and not treated equally.

That goes for religious as well as ethnic minorities. So, when I hear about how Christian persecution in the US, I have to wonder what planet these people are talking about, because Christians aren’t being persecuted here - they’re being exposed to the limits of separation of church and state as the Founders wanted. Because no religion shall be established, which means that Christians can’t impose their views on everyone else through state acts (like legislation).

170 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 6:56:14am

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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Read the linked article to see what Greenwald considers merely “harsh criticism of Israel,” that shouldn’t have led to any action.

This is “harsh criticism of Israel”

For instance, there is this tweet: “At this point, if Netanyahu appeared on TV with a necklace made from the teeth of Palestinian children, would anybody be surprised? #Gaza.” Or this one: “By eagerly conflating Jewishness and Israel, Zionists are partly responsible when people say antisemitic shit in response to Israeli terror.” Or this one: “Zionists, take responsibility: if your dream of an ethnocratic Israel is worth the murder of children, just fucking own it already.”

171 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 6:57:38am

re: #167 Charles Johnson

For instance, there is this tweet: “At this point, if Netanyahu appeared on TV with a necklace made from the teeth of Palestinian children, would anybody be surprised? #Gaza.” Or this one: “By eagerly conflating Jewishness and Israel, Zionists are partly responsible when people say antisemitic shit in response to Israeli terror.” Or this one: “Zionists, take responsibility: if your dream of an ethnocratic Israel is worth the murder of children, just fucking own it already.”

In recent weeks, bloggers and others have started to draw attention to Salaita’s comments on Twitter. But as recently as July 22 (before the job offer was revoked), a university spokeswoman defended Salaita’s comments on Twitter and elsewhere. A spokeswoman told The News-Gazette for an article about Salaita that “faculty have a wide range of scholarly and political views, and we recognize the freedom-of-speech rights of all of our employees.”

While Salaita has been until very recently very active on Twitter, he stopped posting several days ago, which is unusual for him. He is an active writer beyond Twitter, with op-eds (which of late have identified him as an Illinois professor) and with campaigns on behalf of the movement to organize an academic boycott of Israel. He has also published scholarly books, including Israel’s Dead Soul (Temple University Press) and Arab American Literary Fictions, Cultures, and Politics (Palgrave Macmillan).

Salaita’s writing last year, while at Virginia Tech, drew fierce attacks (including death threats). In a piece in Salon, he questioned the idea that people should be asked in various ways to “support the troops.”

First his use of Irving, and now this?

172 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 7:01:22am

re: #168 Teukka

“When Ma Nature goes second amendment and whips out her piece, the fight is most likely over with, because the best mankind can whip out is a soft airgun, an ol’ Ma is toting a Phalanx CIWS.”

I have no idea what a Phalanx CIWS is but I’ll be sure to quote it in a learned Finnish accent ;)

173 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 7:03:41am

re: #172 Alyosha

I have no idea what a Phalanx CIWS is but I’ll be sure to quote it in a learned Finnish accent ;)

One bad ass weapons system.

Youtube Video

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 7:03:48am

re: #172 Alyosha

I have no idea what a Phalanx CIWS is but I’ll be sure to quote it in a learned Finnish accent ;)

It’s a naval point-defense system. Basically a 20mm Gatling gun tied into an automated targeting system. Mounted on ships since the 1970s as a sort of last resort defense against missile attack.

en.wikipedia.org

175 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:03:49am

THIS KICKS ASS

176 darthstar  Aug 6, 2014 7:05:55am
177 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 7:06:12am

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Read the linked article to see what Greenwald considers merely “harsh criticism of Israel,” that shouldn’t have led to any action.

From the article it looks like a university opted not to hire someone that was probably going to end up being disruptive. They at least recognized that you get the whole package - personality as well as academic credentials.

The comments there were the typical swamp as well I see.

178 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 7:06:43am

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

Lol, awesome.

179 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 7:08:04am

re: #172 Alyosha

I have no idea what a Phalanx CIWS is but I’ll be sure to quote it in a learned Finnish accent ;)

This be Phalanx CIWS. It be ‘murrikan piece.
Youtube Video

180 freetoken  Aug 6, 2014 7:08:06am

The reality of being a Democrat in a red-neck nation:

The Agony of the Red State Democrat

181 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 7:14:11am

re: #173 Bubblehead II

re: #174 Feline Fearless Leader

re: #179 Teukka

Holy shit.

Is my response.

182 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 7:18:03am

Morning all.

It’s D-Day in Columbus today. The big wigs from the DNC are hitting town today to check out the facilities to see if the city can host the Democratic National Convention in ‘16.

I do hope we make the grade. I think the city is ready but we shall see.

Columbus viewed from southwest of downtown just past the Main Street arched bridge

183 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 7:19:28am

re: #175 Pie-onist Overlord

And yet, there will be people who will not understand the irony/satire.

184 b.d.  Aug 6, 2014 7:20:00am

re: #176 darthstar

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The weather does change every once in a while, we always know what Morning Joe is going to say.

185 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 7:20:27am

re: #181 Alyosha

Holy shit.

Is my response.

Yeah, you wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of a burst from that thing.

186 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:21:19am
187 SteelPH  Aug 6, 2014 7:23:41am

I just looked over KT’s twitter feed. Holy fucking war porn, Batman. Coupled with lots of passive-aggressive whining about Obama’s foreign policy for not including “Complete Destroy Palestine” in it.

188 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 7:25:06am

re: #187 SteelPH

I just looked over KT’s twitter feed. Holy fucking war porn, Batman. Coupled with lots of passive-aggressive whining about Obama’s foreign policy for not including “Complete Destroy Palestine” in it.

That bad, eh?
Figures.

189 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 7:25:28am

re: #185 Bubblehead II

It’s a point defense system for when everything else has failed (like the Sea Sparrow). It isn’t normally an offensive weapon.

But that has nothing on the GAU-8 Avenger (the gun around which the A-10 was designed). The Dutch have a CIWS system based on the Avenger too, and they’ve used it against pirates off Somalia.

190 SteelPH  Aug 6, 2014 7:26:32am

re: #188 Varek Raith

That bad, eh?
Figures.

And some retweeting of Anthony Cumia as well.

191 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 7:27:39am

re: #187 SteelPH

I don’t understand the need or desire to post war porn. What is the point of posting photos of people with limbs blown off or whatever? Nobody needs to see that to understand that people are dying on both sides over there.

It doesn’t do anyone any favors to post that shit. All it does is cause emotional reactions, which is the last thing anyone needs here.

192 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 7:29:01am

re: #187 SteelPH

I just looked over KT’s twitter feed. Holy fucking war porn, Batman. Coupled with lots of passive-aggressive whining about Obama’s foreign policy for not including “Complete Destroy Palestine” in it.

So the occasionally sane KT I’ve seen for the length of time I’ve been lurking is, in fact, as lost to the craziness as others have vouched. Wow. It’s as weird as Anakin turning to the dark side in Revenge of the Sith. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Maybe he’s gone completely Andy Kaufmann.

193 Mattand  Aug 6, 2014 7:29:38am

re: #161 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Of course the description applied to any such person regardless of gender, but don’t let that stop you from marveling.

LOL, I guess “whore” or “money-grabbing slut” would have been just as appropriate, since we’re under the guise of being gender neutral.

194 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 7:29:38am
195 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 7:32:45am

re: #181 Alyosha

Holy shit.

Is my response.

Which is exactly why I made the Phalanx CIWS vs. soft air gun parable :P

196 Mattand  Aug 6, 2014 7:33:00am

re: #169 lawhawk

Since you were in St. Louis, please tell me you found Jim Hoft, snuck up behind him, and said “I’M AN EBOLA-INFECTED MUSLIM BORDER CHILD SNEAKING INTO THE US, BOOGEDY BOOGEDY!!!!”

197 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 7:33:59am

198 Alyosha  Aug 6, 2014 7:36:24am

I gotta sleep, unfortunately. Damnable timezones!!!

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 7:36:45am

re: #197 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

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Awesome. Bathing the Red Horse. Saw the original at an exhibition in Germany a few years back…

200 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 7:37:23am

re: #185 Bubblehead II

Yeah, you wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of a burst from that thing.

And you really don’t want to be on the receiving end of a burst from Ma Nature’s clathrate gun. To quote a Danish climatologist:
“If even a fraction of the methane clathrates on the continental shelves is released, we’re fucked”

Protip to skepdicks: When a scientist begins using profanities, pay attention.

201 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 6, 2014 7:39:14am
202 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 7:40:16am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Awesome. Bathing the Red Horse. Saw the original at an exhibition in Germany a few years back…

I love the “Not for gay” note. Nice touch.

203 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:40:30am
204 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:42:07am

So the Independent removed the article because even they realized it was racist bullshit but GG will link to it wherever he can Google it.

205 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 7:42:38am

re: #176 darthstar

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Because the Weather Channel is more interesting.

206 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 7:42:49am

re: #196 Mattand

Nope. But since I hit Ted Drewes, Imos, and a Cardinals game, I made sure to leave cooties everywhere important. I doubt he’d know what to do with the Courthouse, White Haven, or Springfield.

207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 7:43:11am

re: #204 Pie-onist Overlord

So the Independent removed the article because even they realized it was racist bullshit but GG will link to it wherever he can Google it.

He’s being an obtuse ass too:

208 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:43:50am
209 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:44:15am

But The Independent took the article down.

210 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 7:44:20am

re: #207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He’s being an obtuse ass too:

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He’s such an asshole.

211 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 7:44:23am

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

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Any idea when this happened? I am not seeing anything about this in the Sydney Morning Herald or over at the Beeb. Jpost is also silent on this as well.

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 7:44:29am

re: #207 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He’s being an obtuse ass too:

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Obviously, he is spending too much time in the encrusted jungle with the spiders and barking dogs…

213 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 6, 2014 7:45:49am

re: #208 Pie-onist Overlord

What? You expect me to check my sources?

/GG

214 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:46:26am

re: #211 Bubblehead II

Any idea when this happened? I am not seeing anything about this in the Sydney Morning Herald or over at the Beeb. Jpost is also silent on this as well.

I just saw it breaking on Haaretz.

215 Frenchy  Aug 6, 2014 7:47:06am

re: #208 Pie-onist Overlord

Can this guy answer any tweet without being a total condescending douchebag prick? This is a rhetorical question.

216 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 7:48:04am

re: #215 Frenchy

Can this guy answer any tweet without being a total condescending douchebag prick? This is a rhetorical question.

Seriously. But Glenn’s not allowed to ever be wrong or in errior. Just ask Glenn!

217 BeachDem  Aug 6, 2014 7:48:14am

re: #182 ObserverArt

Great pic. I’m old enough to remember when the only tall building in Columbus was the Lincoln-LeVeque, and pilots called it “the all-American city with a hard on.”

218 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 7:53:05am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Seriously. But Glenn’s not allowed to ever be wrong or in errior. Just ask Glenn!

LEAVE GLENN A-LONE!

219 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 7:53:16am

So, it appears that the ceasefire is holding between Hamas and Israel. Need I remind everyone that the terms of this ceasefire are little different than all the other ceasefires? So, what’s changed?

The parties have realized that they’ve achieved whatever objectives they sought from this round. And now they get to prepare for the next.

Meanwhile, the dead get buried.

And attention on the violence in the Middle East drifts away even though the Syrian Civil War rages on - with a body count more than 10 times as large 170k+ dead, and millions in refugees spread across Jordan (overtaxed by refugees from both Iraq and Syria), Turkey, Lebanon (with a fight against insurgents ongoing over the past week) and Iraq (where Iraq is battling its own mess of an insurgency).

Too many media outlets lose focus on facts about the Middle East - namely that Israel isn’t the start/end of all reporting. There’s a billion people living in the region, and there’s unrest, insurgencies, civil wars, and insurrections across significant portions of the region - from North Africa’s Libya to Egypt to Sudan (with the ongoing issues with South Sudan), Ethiopia’s ongoing issues trying to stop violence crossing over from Somalia, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq.

220 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 7:53:48am

re: #214 Pie-onist Overlord

I just saw it breaking on Haaretz.

Just found it over at The Australian, but it’s behind a paywall.

221 b.d.  Aug 6, 2014 7:56:47am

THEY DELETED THEIR ARTICLE, HOW ELSE WAS I TO REFERENCE IT IF I DIDN’T GO THROUGH THAT HORRIBLE SITE!?!?

222 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:57:32am

re: #221 b.d.

THEY DELETED THEIR ARTICLE, HOW ELSE WAS I TO REFERENCE IT IF I DIDN’T GO THROUGH THAT HORRIBLE SITE!?!?

TROOF IS TROOF NO MATTER WHERE U FIND IT!!!!!!!

223 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 7:57:59am
224 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 8:00:56am

re: #223 lawhawk

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That’s totally where Nigeria is.

225 b.d.  Aug 6, 2014 8:03:25am

re: #223 lawhawk

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I’m more worried about the wandering Nigeria than I am about Ebola.

226 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 8:03:51am

re: #224 Varek Raith

You say Niger. CNN says Nigeria. You say tomato, I say tomatoe.

227 Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2014 8:04:31am

re: #223 lawhawk

Is there any doubt any longer that CNN has decided to morph into Fox News?

228 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:05:42am

re: #227 Skip Intro

Is there any doubt any longer that CNN has decided to morph into Fox News?

Hasn’t been for some time IMO.

229 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 8:06:18am

Hmmmm… 31 cases out of a billion votes cast. That’s 31 allegations - inclusive of prosecutions.

This sort of misdirection is pretty common, actually. Election fraud happens. But ID laws are not aimed at the fraud you’ll actually hear about. Most current ID laws (Wisconsin is a rare exception) aren’t designed to stop fraud with absentee ballots (indeed, laws requiring ID at the polls push more people into the absentee system, where there are plenty of real dangers). Or vote buying. Or coercion. Or fake registration forms. Or voting from the wrong address. Or ballot box stuffing by officials in on the scam. In the 243-page document that Mississippi State Sen. Chris McDaniel filed on Monday with evidence of allegedly illegal votes in the Mississippi Republican primary, there were no allegations of the kind of fraud that ID can stop.

Instead, requirements to show ID at the polls are designed for pretty much one thing: people showing up at the polls pretending to be somebody else in order to each cast one incremental fake ballot. This is a slow, clunky way to steal an election. Which is why it rarely happens.

I’ve been tracking allegations of fraud for years now, including the fraud ID laws are designed to stop. In 2008, when the Supreme Court weighed in on voter ID, I looked at every single allegation put before the Court. And since then, I’ve been following reports wherever they crop up.

To be clear, I’m not just talking about prosecutions. I track any specific, credible allegation that someone may have pretended to be someone else at the polls, in any way that an ID law could fix.

So far, I’ve found about 31 different incidents (some of which involve multiple ballots) since 2000, anywhere in the country. If you want to check my work, you can read a comprehensive list of the incidents below.

It’s not just to prevent illegal voting, but the GOP has made Voter ID a mission to suppress voting patterns they don’t like - namely minorities, elderly, and those who are newly eligible to vote.

230 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 8:07:03am
231 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 8:07:28am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

Obviously, he is spending too much time in the encrusted jungle with the spiders and barking dogs…

His jungle-encrusted brain is full of barking spiders.

232 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 8:07:45am

re: #224 Varek Raith

That’s totally where Nigeria is.

Niger, Nigeria, whatevs man.

234 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 6, 2014 8:09:51am

re: #220 Bubblehead II

Just found it over at The Australian, but it’s behind a paywall.

The Daily Telegraph is covering it too. Horrific. I cant imagine how frightened those families are right now.

…Mother Jacqui Blackburn said her three daughters on the bus, aged eight, 10 and 12, were traumatised. “The bus driver opened the doors for these strange men and allowed them on to torment the kids,” she said.

“They were screaming ‘Heil Hitler’, ‘Kill the Jews’, ‘Palestine must kill you Jews’, ‘We are going to cut your throats and slice your throats open’ — just all very bad, anti-Semitic stuff.

…

235 b.d.  Aug 6, 2014 8:10:40am

If he couldn’t find it anywhere else it kind of begs the question of why he was over at that site in the first place?

236 Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2014 8:10:42am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I only ask because there are still some people who seem to think CNN is a legitimate news source, much like there are still some people who think that Donald Trump’s opinions are worth listening to.

237 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:11:56am

re: #233 Lidane

*headdesk*

Pat Robertson: Obama Was ‘Trained In Indonesia With The Muslim Point Of View’

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And Robertson was raised with a segregationist point of view. I’ll take the guy who had a Muslim stepfather, Pat over your bigoted old ass.

238 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 8:12:17am

re: #219 lawhawk

Also not discussed in media: the fingerprint of climate change on Syria and Egypt notably initiated by skyrocketing wheat prices due to major drought in Russia.

We’re just getting started.

239 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 8:13:04am

re: #227 Skip Intro

Watching CNN at STL Lambert airport, I felt the IQ points drifting away. If I could throw something at the screen, I would have.

They were having a segment involving Erin Burnett yakking about the incident where a US general was killed in Afghanistan. Supposedly hard news, but they were only giving opinions about what happened. They didn’t know motives, who was involved, or anything else, but that didn’t stop the host and her guest from talking about how Taliban could have infiltrated and gotten on base, or that this might spell the end to US training of Afghan soldiers in country.

Another segment caught earlier this week about Ebola was as much about scare mongering (by CNN) as it was about news. Spending time talking about how Trump and others are warning about treating Ebola patients here. Let’s just ignore that we are well aware of how to stop the spread of Ebola and how to treat patients with the disease. Heck, we found a strain of Ebola here in the US - Reston VA in fact, that affects macaques. We’ve also got facilities that can handle infectious diseases in ways that the African countries now overburdened with the disease could only imagine - quarantine facilities, isolation wards for each patient, negative pressure air handling systems, etc.

240 Franklin Brewsevelt  Aug 6, 2014 8:14:54am

Ah the great port city of Lagos, wait, it’s land locked?! WTF Man!

241 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 8:15:22am

re: #238 Ryan King

Also not discussed in media: the fingerprint of climate change on Syria and Egypt notably initiated by skyrocketing wheat prices due to major drought in Russia.

We’re just getting started.

I hadn’t heard about that one. That’s certainly bad news.

242 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 6, 2014 8:16:01am
just all very bad, anti-Semitic stuff.

Obvious pro-Israel bias. The correct term is “anti-Zionist”.

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243 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 8:18:47am

re: #235 b.d.

If he couldn’t find it anywhere else it kind of begs the question of why he was over at that site in the first place?

It .. sort of came up … because it’s in his bookmarks or history?

Nahhhh….

244 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 8:18:57am

The Stupid is strong with this one:

Dinesh D’Souza’s fever dream: Obama invented border crisis to kill America for his lefty pals

In the wide-ranging interview, D’Souza claimed that Obama only went to Chicago in order to work under the tutelage of conservative bogeyman and alleged — though not actual — communist Saul Alinksy. “He’s somebody Obama heard about, and that’s why Obama kept going back to Chicago. Think about it — Obama has no roots in Chicago. He comes from Hawaii. He lived part of his life in Indonesia, but he kept going to Chicago because he heard about this guy, Alinsky,” D’Souza said.

“Who was Alinsky?” he asked. “He was basically a shakedown artist. He used to hang out with the mafia, and he realized what the mafia does-they shake people down for money. Alinsky said, how do I do that politically?”

D’Souza then said that this is exactly what the president has done with the situation at the Mexican border — “taken people of good will and put them into an impossible situation.” According to D’Souza, Obama “simply put out the word on the other side of the border that we are not that serious about enforcing the immigration laws. Moreover, we are trying to get amnesty for lawbreakers already in this country. Pretty soon, half the world shows up, and Obama throws up his hands and pretends, ‘How did they all come here?’”

He was careful not lay blame for the crisis on the people who attempted to enter the United States. “I don’t blame them,” D’Souza said, “I blame the cynicism and manipulation of the Obama Administration which has manufactured, to a large degree, this crisis.”

Yeah, it’s a Raw Story link, but the original source is a RWNJ cesspool, so I’ll take it.

245 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 8:21:37am

re: #241 Dr Lizardo

I hadn’t heard about that one. That’s certainly bad news.

Yes, the Russian drought of 2010 was almost directly tied to Egypt and to a lesser extent added stress to Syria.

They get all their wheat from Russia.

Now, Syria is in significant drought.

246 b.d.  Aug 6, 2014 8:22:02am

Look at this alarming article that I found over at the Hot Naked Grandma website!

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247 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:22:19am

re: #244 Lidane

The Stupid is strong with this one:

Dinesh D’Souza’s fever dream: Obama invented border crisis to kill America for his lefty pals

Yeah, it’s a Raw Story link, but the original source is a RWNJ cesspool, so I’ll take it.

He’s a disgusting asshole who is not surprisingly also a crook. Why he thinks he should have any credibility is beyond me and lol at his Alinsky whining. Really Dinesh just shut up dude and actually try to come up with a solution rather than being just another cheap Glenn Beck ripoff.

248 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 6, 2014 8:23:23am
249 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 8:24:35am

re: #244 Lidane

ALINSKY!!!

250 makeitstop  Aug 6, 2014 8:25:31am

re: #244 Lidane

The Stupid is strong with this one:

Dinesh D’Souza’s fever dream: Obama invented border crisis to kill America for his lefty pals

Yeah, it’s a Raw Story link, but the original source is a RWNJ cesspool, so I’ll take it.

I still don’t - and probably never will - understand how these people can call Obama weak, ineffectual and incompetent, while simultaneously calling him pretty much the reincarnation of Machiavelli. My neck would snap from the freakin’ whiplash.

251 BeachDem  Aug 6, 2014 8:25:44am

re: #244 Lidane

“Obama only went to Chicago in order to work under the tutelage of conservative bogeyman and alleged — though not actual — communist Saul Alinksy”

That Obama was some precocious kid, seeing as Alinksy died in 1972.

252 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 6, 2014 8:25:46am
253 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 8:27:02am

re: #238 Ryan King

Also not discussed in media: the fingerprint of climate change on Syria and Egypt notably initiated by skyrocketing wheat prices due to major drought in Russia.

We’re just getting started.

Ayup. And I have a strong gut feeling that at least half of America, if not the entire Western world, is going to take a spectacular sucker punch to the gut soon with regard to climate change.

254 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 6, 2014 8:27:24am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

I’m sure the inflation in food prices will do wonders for the economy.

255 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:27:28am

re: #250 makeitstop

I still don’t - and probably never will - understand how these people can call Obama weak, ineffectual and incompetent, while simultaneously calling him pretty much the reincarnation of Machiavelli. My neck would snap from the freakin’ whiplash.

Not just weak and ineffectual but also that he only got into Columbia as an undergrad and later Harvard Law because of his race. I think Dinesh is just an unbelievably bitter man who knows that POTUS is much more comfortable with who he is as a man than Dinesh is. Dinesh feels the only way he can be successful is by being a right wing hack. POTUS seems more comfortable with himself.

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 8:28:21am

re: #229 lawhawk

It’s a lovely distraction from the much greater threat from ballot box stuffing and other shenanigans stemming from the other side of the voting booth.

257 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 8:28:23am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

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258 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:28:36am

I mean D’Sousa is the guy who with a straight face accused Obama of harboring anti-colonial sentiments. It’s like dude you’re the son of immigrants from what was the jewel of the British imperial empire and you’re a citizen of a country that got independence from said empire. Anti-colonialism isn’t a bad thing. Well I guess it is if you’re a right wing hack but I digress.

259 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 8:31:08am
260 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 8:31:12am

D’Souza is a money grubbing huckster soaking the rubes. Ideology is a commodity.

261 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:31:30am

What is with their obsession with Saul Alinsky anyhow? I would have no idea who that guy was if not for right wing nutjobs like D’Sousa telling me YOU LEFTIES DO EVERYTHING YOU DO BECAUSE OF RULES FOR RADICALS.

262 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:31:56am

re: #259 lawhawk

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Saw that on FB. hehe.

263 Mattand  Aug 6, 2014 8:32:31am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

I mean D’Sousa is the guy who with a straight face accused Obama of harboring anti-colonial sentiments. It’s like dude you’re the son of immigrants from what was the jewel of the British imperial empire and you’re a citizen of a country that got independence from said empire. Anti-colonialism isn’t a bad thing. Well I guess it is if you’re a right wing hack but I digress.

I had someone here explain to me the anti-colonial thing around the time Gingrich was dropping it every interview. I keep forgetting what the base of the insult is.

I mean, it makes no fucking sense, particularly if you’re an American, to insult someone as being “anti-colonial.” Kinda how the country came into being.

264 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 8:32:31am

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

265 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 8:32:34am

re: #254 Internet Tough Guy

I’m sure the inflation in food prices will do wonders for the economy.

You beat me to it.

266 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 8:33:42am

re: #263 Mattand

I mean, it makes no fucking sense, particularly if you’re an American, to insult someone as being “anti-colonial.” Kinda how the country came into being.

There you go using logic again. RWNJs are immune to logic.

267 makeitstop  Aug 6, 2014 8:33:43am

re: #264 lawhawk

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Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Is Clive gonna mobilize the Wolverines to go bust him out of stir?
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268 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 8:34:13am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

What is with their obsession with Saul Alinsky anyhow? I would have no idea who that guy was if not for right wing nutjobs like D’Sousa telling me YOU LEFTIES DO EVERYTHING YOU DO BECAUSE OF RULES FOR RADICALS.

What’s funny is if you read the Rules and apply them to Beck and the rest of the right wing hucksters it would blow up your Irony Meter.

269 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 8:35:04am
270 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:35:33am

re: #263 Mattand

I had someone here explain to me the anti-colonial thing around the time Gingrich was dropping it every interview. I keep forgetting what the base of the insult is.

I mean, it makes no fucking sense, particularly if you’re an American, to insult someone as being “anti-colonial.” Kinda how the country came into being.

It’s like attacking an American for being anti-monarchy. Why, yes, yes I do have a problem with monarchy and empire. Anyhow I think the point is when Gingrich and D’Sousa do that they’re trying to act like the colonialism that Barack Obama, Sr opposed in Kenya was somehow less evil than the colonialism we fought in America because you know America fuck yeah. But it just boggles my mind that D’Sousa of all people does it knowing his background. But then again he’s a cowardly little weasel.

271 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:36:27am

re: #268 Ryan King

What’s funny is if you read the Rules and apply them to Beck and the rest of the right wing hucksters it would blow up your Irony Meter.

Didn’t we hear that Breitbart and his guys were by their own admission reading it for inspiration?

272 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 8:36:45am

As long as we’re on the subject of right wing hacks, Ted Nugent is being his usual racially tolerant self:

NRA’s Ted Nugent Uses Racial Slur For Japanese While Speaking In Front Of Tea Party Crowd

He also suggests that men who are married to women who don’t support hunting should either “fix” or replace their wives. What a fun guy.

273 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 8:37:26am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is the Google Translate of the story:

Putin banned the import of agricultural raw materials and food from countries who introduced sanctions against Russia for a year. This was reported on the government website.

It is reported that Vladimir Putin in Russia banned the import of agricultural products, raw materials and food from all countries that have imposed sanctions against Russia over Ukraine.

Simultaneously, the President instructed the government to work measures that will prevent the growth of prices for these commodities. Also, the report of the Kremlin noted that one year the ban may be revised.

Sanctions against Russia previously imposed by the U.S., Canada, European Union, Japan and Australia.

Note that part that says, “Simultaneously, the President instructed the government to work measures that will prevent the growth of prices for these commodities.”

Price controls, if I’m reading that correctly. And if I’m not mistaken, price controls tend to have a distorting effect on the economy.

274 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 8:37:34am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now, why would PzNews claim that this ancient photo (maybe but not necessarily made in Russia) represents the effect of any sanctions?

275 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:38:34am

re: #272 Lidane

As long as we’re on the subject of right wing hacks, Ted Nugent is being his usual racially tolerant self:

NRA’s Ted Nugent Uses Racial Slur For Japanese While Speaking In Front Of Tea Party Crowd

He also suggests that men who are married to women who don’t support hunting should either “fix” or replace their wives. What a fun guy.

Can Ted go one day without being a racist asshole? That’s a rhetorical answer. I know that he cannot do that.

276 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 8:39:27am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Can Ted go one day without being a racist asshole? That’s a rhetorical answer. I know that he cannot do that.

That is his essence, just like Glenn Greenwald can not go one day without being a Giant Douchewad

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 8:39:59am

re: #274 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Now, why would PzNews claim that this ancient photo (maybe but not necessarily made in Russia) represents the effect of any sanctions?

The heavy coat was kind of a giveaway.

278 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:41:22am

re: #276 Pie-onist Overlord

That is his essence, just like Glenn Greenwald can not go one day without being a Giant Douchewad

Right it was rhetorical. Just amuses me that he goes around saying slurs and then cries about the “mean” people who won’t invite him to perform for them. Gotta love it though since he jumped on the base the Dixie Chicks bandwagon when they said something much less offensive than he does. So, Ted, shut up and sing and strum.

279 Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2014 8:45:45am
280 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 8:46:45am

oh dear…

281 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 8:48:18am

re: #263 Mattand

I had someone here explain to me the anti-colonial thing around the time Gingrich was dropping it every interview. I keep forgetting what the base of the insult is.

I mean, it makes no fucking sense, particularly if you’re an American, to insult someone as being “anti-colonial.” Kinda how the country came into being.

We never called ourselves an empire so “anti-imperialist” doesn’t fit right. It’s the generic label tossed at anyone from a country that was exploited by the European powers or the US. They automatically assume that any person from there must resent the exploitation and thus also therefore be a socialist or communist since they are *obviously* default enemies of the West. (Despite how we’ve raised them out of tribal barbarism.)

:p

282 bratwurst  Aug 6, 2014 8:48:34am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

The headline should read:

“South Carolina teacher used book ghost written for Limbaugh to teach third graders about slavery”

283 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 8:49:27am

Something for weather geeks:

Just before sunrise on numerous mornings since mid-July, a curious doughnut pattern has appeared over several locations on NWS Wilmington, OH Doppler radar imagery. This feature, known as a “roost ring,” occurs when the radar beam detects thousands of birds simultaneously taking off from their roosting site around dawn to forage for insects.

more at the link.

284 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:53:36am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

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I don’t know what I find more disturbing that she taught his book which by the way had it been a famous lefty author, people like Rush would be screaming INDOCTRINATION or the fact that both her and Rush believe that the “founders passion” for the country is why slavery was eventually abolished. A lot of fail there. If I were a parent, I’d be horrified that a right wing propagandist’s book was being used to teach history. Gotta love how Rush inserted himself in Paul Revere’s place. I mean it’s not like Paul Revere was a real person. Oh wait.

285 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 6, 2014 8:54:09am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t CATO a front for climate change deniers?

286 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 8:54:56am

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t CATO a front for climate change deniers?

yep

287 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 8:55:33am

The religious herpty derp is both predictable and pathetic:

Peter LaBarbera Warns God Will Punish Sears, America For ‘Surpassing Sodom’

Hagee: Pro-Choice, Pro-LGBT ‘Counterfeit Christians’ Are Nation’s ‘Greatest Problem’

The Almighty has been slacking for thousands of years and these yahoos think it’s going to care now? ROFL.

288 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 6, 2014 8:55:35am

re: #282 bratwurst

Yeah and that’s when you know you’re useless as a writer, when you have to have a CHILDRENS BOOK ghostwritten for you.

289 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 8:55:45am

More of that signage:

290 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:58:03am

re: #287 Lidane

The religious herpty derp is both predictable and pathetic:

Peter LaBarbera Warns God Will Punish Sears, America For ‘Surpassing Sodom’

Hagee: Pro-Choice, Pro-LGBT ‘Counterfeit Christians’ Are Nation’s ‘Greatest Problem’

The Almighty has been slacking for thousands of years and these yahoos think it’s going to care now? ROFL.

I wonder when God’s going ot punish Canada and does Hagee know that Israel that he professes to love has gay rights policies for years now.

291 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 6, 2014 8:58:36am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Israel has stricter gun laws too, don’t they?

292 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:58:50am

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah and that’s when you know you’re useless as a writer, when you have to have a CHILDRENS BOOK ghostwritten for you.

Wait the kids book was ghostwritten for him? Excuse me while I hahahhaha at Rush.

293 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 8:59:09am

Libety or Tranny? The only real choice is YES!

294 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 8:59:42am

re: #291 Eclectic Cyborg

Israel has stricter gun laws too, don’t they?

I don’t know. It would not shock me. I just know that Israel has allowed gays to serve openly and women to serve in combat roles. Two things that our so-con nutjobs flip theri shit over. They also have a more liberal health care system too.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 8:59:42am

re: #287 Lidane

The religious herpty derp is both predictable and pathetic:

Peter LaBarbera Warns God Will Punish Sears, America For ‘Surpassing Sodom’

Ayn Rand has already punished Sears.

296 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 9:00:03am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I wonder when God’s going ot punish Canada and does Hagee know that Israel that he professes to love has gay rights policies for years now.

Good question. Not long ago, someone on FR pointed out Israel’s pro-gay rights policies in great detail (per a Wikipedia link) and a lot of the Freepers came across as genuinely shocked, to be honest. I think they probably didn’t really know about it.

They have a mythical version of Israel they support.

297 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:01:42am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

Good question. Not long ago, someone on FR pointed out Israel’s pro-gay rights policies in great detail (per a Wikipedia link) and a lot of the Freepers came across as genuinely shocked, to be honest. I think they probably didn’t really know about it.

They have a mythical version of Israel they support.

That doesn’t surprise me but Hagee’s actually been there a bunch of times hasn’t he? But you are right. There’s Israel and there’s Israel. Hagee is an anti-Semitic and anti-Catholic asshole anyhow. He’s a bigot who uses Israel and Jews as a front for his bigotry.

298 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 9:02:27am
299 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 9:02:29am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

They have a mythical version of Israel they support.

The RWNJ version of Israel is the one that slaughters the Palestinians wholesale, stays together for 1000 years, and ultimately gets destroyed by God so that the Second Coming happens.

300 Timothy Watson  Aug 6, 2014 9:03:49am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. It would not shock me. I just know that Israel has allowed gays to serve openly and women to serve in combat roles. Two things that our so-con nutjobs flip theri shit over. They also have a more liberal health care system too.

The government also pays for abortions for women.

301 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:04:07am

A Koch Brother Tells Us How To Turn The Economy Around.

Here are some turds of wisdom:

Compounding the problem are destructive regulations affecting whether and how business invests and employees work. Federal rules cost America an estimated $1.86 trillion per year, calculated the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

When I was growing up, my father had me spend my free time working at unpleasant jobs. Most Americans understand that taking a job and sticking with it, no matter how unpleasant or low-paying, is a vital step toward the American dream. We are in for more trouble if young people don’t find that all-important first job, which is critical to beginning their climb up the ladder.

Finally, we need greater incentives to work. Costly programs, such as paying able-bodied people not to work, are addictive disincentives. By undermining people’s will to work, our government has created a culture of dependency and hopelessness. This is most unfair to vulnerable citizens who suffer even as we say they are receiving “benefits.”

302 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 9:04:56am

re: #299 Lidane

The RWNJ version of Israel is the one that slaughters the Palestinians wholesale, stays together for 1000 years, and ultimately gets destroyed by God so that the Second Coming happens.

Yeah, exactly.

303 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:04:59am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Such a good Christian he is. Really Hagee, you’re about Jesus like as Ayn Rand was, you fuck.

304 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:05:27am

re: #300 Timothy Watson

The government also pays for abortions for women.

Didn’t know that but I’m not totally surprised either.

305 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:06:46am

re: #299 Lidane

The RWNJ version of Israel is the one that slaughters the Palestinians wholesale, stays together for 1000 years, and ultimately gets destroyed by God so that the Second Coming happens.

Yep and the wingnuts think this is “support” and “love” for Israel. It’s sick. And it’s why Bibi is such a craven asshole for associating himself with end timers like Hagee and Beck who support Israel for no other reason than this end of times bullshit rather than actual support for an a democratic ally.

306 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 9:07:05am

re: #301 Pie-onist Overlord

A Koch Brother Tells Us How To Turn The Economy Around.

Here are some turds of wisdom:

Finally, we need greater incentives to work.

Something like paying a living wage, perhaps?

307 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 9:07:20am

re: #217 BeachDem

Great pic. I’m old enough to remember when the only tall building in Columbus was the Lincoln-LeVeque, and pilots called it “the all-American city with a hard on.”

Yeah, the city done growed up out of the cornfields of central Ohio.

I’ve posted before the city didn’t really start to grow until the 70’s and went from third largest to the largest Ohio city population wise. Still not as big of a metro area as Akron/Canton/Cleveland…but heading that way.

308 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:10:02am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something like paying a living wage, perhaps?

Seriously wingnuts want to talk about work but they don’t want to talk about things like better wages which by the way will result in a much productive work force. If you’re paying me bare minimum, I am not gonna try that hard but if you pay and also treat me well, I’m going to work hard for you and I may even become a customer of your product. The right wing approach to labor and workers is all wrong because they don’t recognize that they’re dealing with human beings. They just see the workers as mindless drones who make the “producer” more wealthy and that’s it.

309 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 9:10:27am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something like paying a living wage, perhaps?

What are you, some kinda pinko commie? REAL Americans work for $0.10 an hour and like it!

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310 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 9:11:47am
311 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:13:13am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lewis I’ve said it many a time here is one of the few men in elected office today that I actually outright admire. He was only 26 when that bill was signed by the way.

312 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 6, 2014 9:13:26am

Heh. Gus should have a field day with this pic…

313 The War TARDIS  Aug 6, 2014 9:14:34am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Paging Dr. Freud…..

314 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:14:58am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. Gus should have a field day with this pic…

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He looks like a child.

315 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 9:15:10am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Something like paying a living wage, perhaps?

Seriously wingnuts want to talk about work but they don’t want to talk about things like better wages which by the way will result in a much productive work force. If you’re paying me bare minimum, I am not gonna try that hard but if you pay and also treat me well, I’m going to work hard for you and I may even become a customer of your product. The right wing approach to labor and workers is all wrong because they don’t recognize that they’re dealing with human beings. They just see the workers as mindless drones who make the “producer” more wealthy and that’s it.

No no no no. That’s not it.

It’s good for the worker to work for shit wages because they’ll be miserable and want to work harder, so they’ll work harder and get raises because Rugged Individualism then they’ll own a company and hire 1,000 people for shit wages, and the process of Libety starts anew.

And the people who don’t devour that shit sandwich with a smile, screw them. They’re lazy laggards and deserve their shit wages.

I got to talk to Stinky about getting a Bootstraps! Font.

316 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 9:15:57am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Everything looks so clean and shiny!1!!

317 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 9:17:53am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

He looks like a child.

Especially next to the skinny worker, who seems to be contemplating the possibilities of putting that stuff on tonight’s slice of bread.

318 b.d.  Aug 6, 2014 9:18:58am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. Gus should have a field day with this pic…

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The fellow next to him does not look as awestruck and grateful as he should be, send him and all of his blood relatives to a camp.

//?

319 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:19:00am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Something like paying a living wage, perhaps?

Seriously wingnuts want to talk about work but they don’t want to talk about things like better wages which by the way will result in a much productive work force. If you’re paying me bare minimum, I am not gonna try that hard but if you pay and also treat me well, I’m going to work hard for you and I may even become a customer of your product. The right wing approach to labor and workers is all wrong because they don’t recognize that they’re dealing with human beings. They just see the workers as mindless drones who make the “producer” more wealthy and that’s it.

HURR HURR U WANT MOAR PAY GET SUM SKILLZ!!!!!

320 Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2014 9:19:08am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

Sounds like a setup call by Limbaugh to try to goose sales of the book with his name on it.

321 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 6, 2014 9:19:40am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

He looks like a child.

What’s with the hair? It looks like the ass end of a beaver.

322 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:20:04am

Oh and, guess who started the current system of accumulating crushing student loan debt.

323 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:21:20am

re: #319 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U WANT MOAR PAY GET SUM SKILLZ!!!!!
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That’s the same moronic mentality that took “non-essential” federal workers to mean that our country would work just fine without them during the shutdown. These people don’t understand how labor and people work.

324 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 6, 2014 9:23:03am

That’s the big reason I have little interesting in pursuing more education. I have exactly $0.00 in student loan debt and would prefer to keep it that way.

325 Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2014 9:23:18am

re: #287 Lidane

The religious herpty derp is both predictable and pathetic:

Peter LaBarbera Warns God Will Punish Sears, America For ‘Surpassing Sodom’

Hagee: Pro-Choice, Pro-LGBT ‘Counterfeit Christians’ Are Nation’s ‘Greatest Problem’

The Almighty has been slacking for thousands of years and these yahoos think it’s going to care now? ROFL.

Not totally. The Almighty appeared in New England in the late 1600s to punish America by releasing a plague of witches across the land. See Mather, Cotton for details.

326 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:23:56am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

That’s the same moronic mentality that took “non-essential” federal workers to mean that our country would work just fine without them during the shutdown. These people don’t understand how labor and people work.

They think “Jrb Creeyaters” just open employment opportunities out of the goodness of their hearts

327 Franklin Brewsevelt  Aug 6, 2014 9:24:10am

328 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 9:24:15am

Buncha librul Democrat plants, part herpty derp:

Mike Huckabee: Obama ‘Acting Like God,’ ‘Worthy Of Impeachment’

Mike Huckabee appeared on Monday’s edition of Iowa-based Steve Deace’s radio talk show, where he said President Obama “absolutely” deserves to be impeached but cautioned that Republicans should not pursue impeachment at this time since the GOP doesn’t have the votes to convict him in the Senate.

“There’s no doubt that he has done plenty of things worthy of impeachment,” Huckabee said.

NAME ONE. Just one thing he’s done that ‘s worth impeaching him. I want an actual law that Obama has broken. I want proof, chapter and verse, and documented examples of how POTUS broke that law. And no, Presidentin’ While Black doesn’t count.

329 Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2014 9:24:53am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. Gus should have a field day with this pic…

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Looks like Kim is set for life with hair gel.

330 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:25:00am

*THROWS A BURNING PIE*

331 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 9:26:18am

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

*THROWS A BURNING PIE*

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Whoa, whoa, whoa!
Not the pie!

332 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:26:24am

re: #328 Lidane

Buncha librul Democrat plants, part herpty derp:

Mike Huckabee: Obama ‘Acting Like God,’ ‘Worthy Of Impeachment’

NAME ONE. Just one thing he’s done that ‘s worth impeaching him. I want an actual law that Obama has broken. I want proof, chapter and verse, and documented examples of how POTUS broke that law. And no, Presidentin’ While Black doesn’t count.

Then Mike maybe you should come up with one rather than this bullshit that you pull out of your ass about him “playing God.” Come on asshole, at least try to give a reason why he should be impeached. Stupid hack.

333 Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2014 9:27:27am

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

*THROWS A BURNING PIE*

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Yet if you say the rich should cut back on how much pie they take so that the poor can get some of their own, those same conservatives screech that there’s not enough pie to go around and some people are entitled to a bigger piece because they’re just “better” than the poor.

334 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 9:28:00am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Not a p-shop, but rather a captioning:

And that, Dear Leader, is how we make Soylent Pale Yellow. We don’t have the food coloring to make it Green.

335 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:28:23am

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

*THROWS A BURNING PIE*

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He gets it all wrong. Liberal: Make a pie, have no problem offering a piece to your friends, family, and neighbors. And leave plenty of ingredients for everyone else.
Conservative: Make a pie: Keep it all for yourself because no one deserves that pie but you and take all the ingredients for yourself even though you don’t need them.

337 Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2014 9:31:43am

Liberal: Make the ingredients affordable to all and more people will make pies.
Conservative: Fuck that, if the poor can’t afford their own ingredients, then they don’t deserve any pie.

338 darthstar  Aug 6, 2014 9:31:51am

re: #223 lawhawk

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You say Nigeria, I say Niger. To-may-to, tom-ah-to. Nobody expects CNN to be accurate.

339 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:33:06am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

He gets it all wrong. Liberal: Make a pie, have no problem offering a piece to your friends, family, and neighbors. And leave plenty of ingredients for everyone else.
Conservative: Make a pie: Keep it all for yourself because no one deserves that pie but you and take all the ingredients for yourself even though you don’t need them.

Conservative pies also have the special ingredient of the tears of poor blah people, women, and teh fetus babbys.

340 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:34:18am

Conservatives eat their pie with a gun between their legs because they think somebody is going to come and steal their pie.

341 Varek Raith  Aug 6, 2014 9:35:16am

342 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 9:35:35am

re: #341 Varek Raith

SCIENCE!

343 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:37:39am

Meanwhile, TEH MOAST BATSHIT CRAZY PERSON ON TEH TWITTERS DOUBLES DOWN ON TEH CRAZIE

344 Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2014 9:38:54am

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

Meanwhile, TEH MOAST BATSHIT CRAZY PERSON ON TEH TWITTERS DOUBLES DOWN ON TEH CRAZIE

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8 hours? The attacks were over and done with within 2 hours. The first attack didn’t even last an hour before all those at the consulate were evacuated.

346 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 9:39:56am

re: #344 Targetpractice

8 hours? The attacks were over and done with within 2 hours. The first attack didn’t even last an hour before all those at the consulate were evacuated.

LIES! BENGHAZI LASTED FOR ELEVENTY BILLION HOURS OF UNIMAGINABLE HELL! OBUMMER LAUGHED AS AMERICANS DIED!

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347 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:40:17am

re: #339 Pie-onist Overlord

Conservative pies also have the special ingredient of the tears of poor blah people, women, and teh fetus babbys.

Heh. I see TP though was thinking the same thing I was.

348 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:40:22am

re: #344 Targetpractice

8 hours? The attacks were over and done with within 2 hours. The first attack didn’t even last an hour before all those at the consulate were evacuated.

“Spreadbutter” does not understand how fucking time zones work.

349 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:41:22am

re: #343 Pie-onist Overlord

Meanwhile, TEH MOAST BATSHIT CRAZY PERSON ON TEH TWITTERS DOUBLES DOWN ON TEH CRAZIE

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Where was Ronnie during the barracks bombing in Beirut? Seriously, it’s like these people think Benghazi is the only time an embassy has ever been attacked(I realize it was a consulate)

350 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:41:59am

Obama caused millions of people to die in Benghazi. It’s a fact, bro.

351 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 9:42:58am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something for weather geeks:

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more at the link.

Should I be scared?

It’s probably thousands of crows. I’ve seen huge groups around Ohio before. It is actually quit scary when you think there are thousands of birds milling about and what they could do if they decided to attack an animal or person.

Right out of Hitchcock!!!

352 Skip Intro  Aug 6, 2014 9:44:10am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Next up: What was Obama doing when that 2 star was killed in Afghanistan the other day, hmmmm?

Coordinating the attack with the Taliban is my guess. Will Glenn Beck or Alex Jones be the first to pick up on this, or will it be the Savage Weiner?

353 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 9:44:36am

Judicial activism! Black robed tyrants! Eleventy!

North Carolina Religious Right Leader Blasts ‘Despotism’ And ‘Tyranny’ Of Pro-Equality Court Rulings

By refusing to resist with every legal means possible, Cooper capitulates to a form of tyranny in our day. He abandons his post on the field of battle, throws up the white flag, stands in the very place of the state (a state that voted by 61% for the marriage amendment) and wimpishly replies to the 4th Circuit that North Carolina accepts their judgment and surrenders. Furthermore, he calls on the judges who will preside over the cases currently challenging the state’s marriage amendment to stand down and yield to the despotism of two judicial totalitarians.

354 iossarian  Aug 6, 2014 9:45:54am

re: #25 teleskiguy

Out of the people that ever were, almost all of them are dead. There are way more dead people, and you’re all gonna die and you’re gonna be dead for way longer than you’re alive.

I have to spoil Louis CK’s joke, but isn’t one of the mind-boggling facts about the 20th century population boom that there are more people alive today than ever lived in the past?

If not strictly more I believe it’s the same order of magnitude.

355 Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2014 9:46:10am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Where was Ronnie during the barracks bombing in Beirut? Seriously, it’s like these people think Benghazi is the only time an embassy has ever been attacked(I realize it was a consulate)

Where was Bush during 9/11? Oh right, reading to a class of elementary students.

Did he immediately jump up and rush off to the White House? Nope, he remained sitting there, reading a book while Americans died. Then he was whisked off and didn’t go anywhere near the White House until almost 12 hours after the first plane smashed into the World Trade Center.

356 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 9:46:21am

re: #351 ObserverArt

Should I be scared?

It’s probably thousands of crows. I’ve seen huge groups around Ohio before. It is actually quit scary when you think there are thousands of birds milling about and what they could do if they decided to attack an animal or person.

Right out of Hitchcock!!!

It says several species can cause this, but right now it’s purple martins. Did you notice the ring around Circleville in the tweet? I thought, ‘But of course!’

357 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 6, 2014 9:48:11am

There are some huge ginormus flocks of starlings that roost on the high-tension power lines not far from the house. They extend for about 3 pylons, every line and the pylons themselves are covered in them. It’s kind of impressive in the evening when they all start coming in…

RBS

358 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:48:46am

re: #353 Lidane

Judicial activism! Black robed tyrants! Eleventy!

North Carolina Religious Right Leader Blasts ‘Despotism’ And ‘Tyranny’ Of Pro-Equality Court Rulings

Yes, asshole, it’s despotism to allow two consenting adults to marry. Really religious right, maybe you wouldn’t be viewed like such assholes if you spent your time actually trying to help people in need rather than whining about gay couples who you’ll never associate with having the same rights as you do. And lol at him using the fact that 61% of the population voted for it. I’m sure a majority voted for Jim Crow laws too dumbass. The RR have no understanding of how law works.

359 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 9:50:14am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hmmm. Looks to me that Hagee needs to get off his own duff and get busy…dude is looking a bit gluttonous. Dude can’t even stand at a pulpit anymore and has to plunk his considerable duff in a chair to sermonize.

And, what has anything he is saying in the linked videos have to do with religion and spirituality? But hey, pass the plate!

360 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 9:50:35am

Starlings: THANKS HEAPS, SHAKESPEARE LOVERS!

361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 9:51:30am

re: #322 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh and, guess who started the current system of accumulating crushing student loan debt.

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I belonged to the last generation that got out of college without being in debt.
Graduated in 1981…

362 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2014 9:52:46am

Arguments start at 1 pm Eastern

363 iossarian  Aug 6, 2014 9:55:25am

re: #360 Pie-onist Overlord

Starlings: THANKS HEAPS, SHAKESPEARE LOVERS!

Prithee relent from starling-adolatry, thou cloth-bearded knave!

364 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:56:35am

You know if the RR spent a fraction of the money they spend fighting marriage equality on things like you know anti-poverty and feeding the hungry. Maybe the world would be a little bit of a better place. But I get it. The RR cares more about who you’re having sex with than if you can have a better life.

365 iossarian  Aug 6, 2014 9:57:59am

re: #364 HappyWarrior

You know if the RR spent a fraction of the money they spend fighting marriage equality on things like you know anti-poverty and feeding the hungry. Maybe the world would be a little bit of a better place. But I get it. The RR cares more about who you’re having sex with than if you can have a better life.

To be fair, I also care more about who I’m having sex with than whether I can have a better life.

366 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 6, 2014 9:59:38am

re: #365 iossarian

To be fair, I also care more about who I’m having sex with than whether I can have a better life.

but who you have sex with can contribute to a better life.

367 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 9:59:55am

re: #357 RealityBasedSteve

There are some huge ginormus flocks of starlings that roost on the high-tension power lines not far from the house. They extend for about 3 pylons, every line and the pylons themselves are covered in them. It’s kind of impressive in the evening when they all start coming in…

RBS

Every once in a while the trees in my neighborhood are filled with some type of bird. It might be starlings, I can’t really tell. They sure can make some noise though. Makes me wonder sometimes how many birds there are.

This might be another plot by Obama. He will turn the birds against us all.

368 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:59:58am

re: #365 iossarian

To be fair, I also care more about who I’m having sex with than whether I can have a better life.

Yeah but that’s your sex life. They’re concerned about the sex life of strangers.

369 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:06:57am
370 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 10:09:24am

re: #369 Kragar

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I guess Ted Nugent was dining with the Russian ambassador last night.

371 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 10:10:24am

re: #325 Skip Intro

Not totally. The Almighty appeared in New England in the late 1600s to punish America by releasing a plague of witches across the land. See Mather, Cotton for details.

“And what do you burn apart from witches?”

372 BeachDem  Aug 6, 2014 10:10:31am

re: #307 ObserverArt

Yeah, the city done growed up out of the cornfields of central Ohio.

I’ve posted before the city didn’t really start to grow until the 70’s and went from third largest to the largest Ohio city population wise. Still not as big of a metro area as Akron/Canton/Cleveland…but heading that way.

I lived there from 1966 till 2003, so I saw it go from Cowtown to city. Always had good music, too! Do you remember Dave Harris (4 Knights and a Dave; the Apocalypse) or Jimmy Harris (Train)? Or a band in the early 90s called The Wanted?

373 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 10:11:20am

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

*THROWS A BURNING PIE*

Obviously you’re just a confused conservative.
;P

374 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:12:45am

In a recent speech before Tea Partiers in California, controversial Maricopa County sheriff Joe Arpaio stated that he’d like to convene a ‘citizens grand jury’ to look into President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, but that it would be “tough” to do so.

… because such a thing doesn’t really exist except in the fever addled mind of lunatics.

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 10:13:03am

re: #338 darthstar

You say Nigeria, I say Niger. To-may-to, tom-ah-to. Nobody expects CNN to be accurate.

While CNN has Nigeria shifting around Africa do they add cute little Pac-Man sound effects?
/

376 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 10:14:58am

re: #356 wrenchwench

It says several species can cause this, but right now it’s purple martins. Did you notice the ring around Circleville in the tweet? I thought, ‘But of course!’

Be glad it’s not flocks of George RR Martins. Imagine the carnage!
;P

377 Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2014 10:15:41am

re: #374 Kragar

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… because such a thing doesn’t really exist except in the fever addled mind of lunatics.

I really do wonder what all these birthers are gonna do with themselves after 2016. It would be too much to hope that they’d sit around, looking at all their screenshots and “indepth analyses” and ask themselves “Did I just waste 8 years of my life?”

378 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 10:16:32am

re: #364 HappyWarrior

You know if the RR spent a fraction of the money they spend fighting marriage equality on things like you know anti-poverty and feeding the hungry. Maybe the world would be a little bit of a better place. But I get it. The RR cares more about who you’re having sex with than if you can have a better life.

My take is that they care more about you obeying their dictates than anything else.

379 iossarian  Aug 6, 2014 10:16:51am

re: #366 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

but who you have sex with can contribute to a better life.

For sure. Just my little joke, as the bishop said to the actress.

380 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 6, 2014 10:17:06am

re: #374 Kragar

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In a recent speech before Tea Partiers in California, controversial Maricopa County sheriff Joe Arpaio stated that he’d like to convene a ‘citizens grand jury’ to look into President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, but that it would be “tough” to do so.
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com
… because such a thing doesn’t really exist except in the fever addled mind of lunatics.

I thought that he and his “cold case posse” was on the very verge of the edge of universe shattering news about Obama’s status back in January February March April. Guess he’s got a boat payment coming up, needs to grift a bit more.

RBS

381 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 10:18:02am

re: #378 Feline Fearless Leader

My take is that they care more about you obeying their dictates than anything else.

They’re fascists which makes their likening themselves to Axis war victims all the more sad.

382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 10:18:23am

re: #377 Targetpractice

I really do wonder what all these birthers are gonna do with themselves after 2016. It would be too much to hope that they’d sit around, looking at all their screenshots and “indepth analyses” and ask themselves “Did I just waste 8 years of my life?”

No, they will see it as an accomplishment that they kept the idea alive

383 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:22:02am

re: #377 Targetpractice

I really do wonder what all these birthers are gonna do with themselves after 2016. It would be too much to hope that they’d sit around, looking at all their screenshots and “indepth analyses” and ask themselves “Did I just waste 8 years of my life?”

At this point, I’m thinking it ends in a mad dash to the sea.

Youtube Video

384 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 10:24:27am

Bryan Fischer: Obama And Holder Are Racists, And Anyone Who Calls Someone A Racist Is A Liar

Within one minute today, American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer slammed President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder as “racists” and then said that anyone who uses terms like “racist” in politics are desperately “calling people names,” engaging in “gutter politics” and “don’t have an argument.”

385 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:25:29am
386 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 6, 2014 10:25:58am

re: #383 Kragar

At this point, I’m thinking it ends in a mad dash to the sea.

[Embedded content]

Video

I remember playing Lemmings on my C-64. Fun Game!!!!

RBS

387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 10:26:28am

re: #385 Kragar

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Common Core Meltdown!!!

388 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 10:27:02am

re: #372 BeachDem

I lived there from 1966 till 2003, so I saw it go from Cowtown to city. Always had good music, too! Do you remember Dave Harris (4 Knights and a Dave; the Apocalypse) or Jimmy Harris (Train)? Or a band in the early 90s called The Wanted?

None of those names immediately hit me. What style of music were they? The Wanted sounds sort of familiar, but never saw them.

I tended to follow a bit more of the punk/alternative bands that played campus/short north areas. ANd of course I used to live at The Newport. Don’t get out to as many concerts these days…but there is still a lot of shows going. Many of them are smaller so some of the smaller clubs/venues get used.

I came to the area to go to CCAD…lived on the east side while attending and found myself staying in the area and buying an old home to rehab and hang out in.

You’d be surprised at how much downtown living there is now. All over. Especially in the corridor north of Spring Street to 1-670 from the river all the way to Columbus State. Seems every building that was at one time some kind of a manufacturing site is now mixed use professional and upper floor apartment or condo. It’s great that the city is strengthening in the core.

Big push on now to rehab the near west/bottoms area and the peninsula area around Vets Memorial area.

389 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 10:27:37am

re: #384 Lidane

Bryan Fischer: Obama And Holder Are Racists, And Anyone Who Calls Someone A Racist Is A Liar

[Embedded image]

Sexually repressed asshole says what? And is he going to scold Mo Brooks oto since Mo Brooks actually said the Dems were waging a war on white people but then again I am asking for logic and consistency for a man whose takeaway from the Holocaust is that we need to persecute gay people.

390 Mike Lamb  Aug 6, 2014 10:28:08am

re: #330 Pie-onist Overlord

*THROWS A BURNING PIE*

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Liberals: It’s a big pie—we can share.

Conservatives: It’s my pie, go fuck yourself.

391 iossarian  Aug 6, 2014 10:29:23am

re: #390 Mike Lamb

Liberals: It’s a big pie—we can share.

Conservatives: It’s my pie, go fuck yourself.

Greens: Was this pie made in a sustainable way?

392 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 10:31:36am

re: #390 Mike Lamb

Liberals: It’s a big pie—we can share.

Conservatives: It’s my pie, go fuck yourself.

if the pie is the country, it’s something like this. The liberal realizes that we all have contributed in our ways to making the pie. Maybe I provided the eggs, maybe you picked the fruits, and maybe some other dude made the crust. Conservative thinks only he made the pie and that sharing it with anyone even a little child is just the worst thing ever and that it’s tyranny that he should have to give a piece of his pie.

393 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 10:33:48am

Oh joy. Local flood warning has been extended to 8:00 P.M. tonight. 3 inches of rain so far today with more on the way.

394 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:33:55am

Charles C Johnson! Come on down!

On Monday evening Hood spokeswoman Jan Schaefer confirmed to the newspaper that Fielder said it was Fritsch who paid him.

Fritsch (pictured, right) denied Fielder’s accusation in an email to TPM and, instead, pointed the blame at Johnson and Saleem Baired, who has served as the Cochran campaign’s minority outreach director.

“Charles Johnson paid for the texts & emails Cochran/Wicker staffer Saleem Baird sent that prove Cochran bought Democrat votes,” Fritsch wrote in the email. He did not respond to additional questions from TPM.

395 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 10:34:32am

It’s a bad sign when my co-worker in the next cubicle is also filling out job applications and updating his resume during lunch.

At least a lot of companies are hiring now. :-P

396 klys  Aug 6, 2014 10:35:35am

re: #395 Lidane

It’s a bad sign when my co-worker in the next cubicle is also filling out job applications and updating his resume during lunch.

At least a lot of companies are hiring now. :-P

And, ironically, it’s easier to get a job when you have a job.

Or so I’ve heard.

397 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 10:37:34am

re: #396 klys

And, ironically, it’s easier to get a job when you have a job.

Or so I’ve heard.

Alas it is. I did like that Charlie Day line from It’s Always Sunny about getting a job. Fucking wingnuts act like it’s so fucking easy to get a job. Of course, they also ignore underemployment too which is another real issue.

398 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:40:22am
399 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 10:47:51am

re: #398 Kragar

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Just seeing an image of Chuckles makes me want to hurl.

I used to be an NBC junkie…they have chased me away. Nightly News, Meet The Press, even Channel 4 local…never missed ‘em, now pffft!

Oh well, more time to read all the great links here at LGF.

And with that…back to work.

400 BeachDem  Aug 6, 2014 10:49:05am

re: #388 ObserverArt

The Wanted was kind of alternative/rock. They played at the Oakland Lounge on Oakland Park, a place in the Short North (can’t remember the name), and some other places. They opened for Cheap Trick at the Newport once.

They were students of mine when I taught at Ohio State, so I was kind of old when I went to their shows, but I had red boots, so their groupies accepted me as ok.

401 Bubblehead II  Aug 6, 2014 10:50:38am

Pics of local flooding. Things could get interesting tonight. And the rain has returned

402 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 10:51:14am

The First Amendment, how the fuck does it work?

GA GOP candidate: 1st Amendment is faith groups’ ‘God-given’ right to take govt money

403 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 10:53:06am

re: #402 Lidane

The First Amendment, how the fuck does it work?

GA GOP candidate: 1st Amendment is faith groups’ ‘God-given’ right to take govt money

So would it be okay with him if a Muslim faith group did that? And I knew that was Jody Hice without even clicking.

404 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 10:54:01am
405 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 11:01:34am
406 Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2014 11:03:50am

The CIA Must Tell the Truth About My Rendition At 12 Years Old

The “Patriots” Liz Cheney told us about kidnapped an entire family from Hong Kong to Libya in a joint CIA-MI6 operation in 2004. Merica!

407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 6, 2014 11:03:54am

The people behind the War on Whites are not stupid: they know that if it gets repeated enough, it will assume a Thruthood of its own and perpetuate itself in the media.

408 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 6, 2014 11:10:28am

re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The people behind the War on Whites are not stupid: they know that if it gets repeated enough, it will assume a Thruthood of its own and perpetuate itself in the media.

Is the next step in the War on Whites widespread sabotage of bleach and cotton production?
//

409 Kragar  Aug 6, 2014 11:11:35am

re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The people behind the War on Whites are not stupid: they know that if it gets repeated enough, it will assume a Thruthood of its own and perpetuate itself in the media.

Most of the activity for that hashtag is people making fun of the morons who think its real, and those morons have been a lost cause for years now.

410 Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2014 11:14:49am

re: #409 Kragar

Most of the activity for that hashtag is people making fun of the morons who think its real, and those morons have been a lost cause for years now.

Case in point :)

411 Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2014 11:25:53am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Heh. Gus should have a field day with this pic…

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I was wondering where this came from.


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