Wednesday Night Jam: The Family Crest

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Here’s a very unusual band to kick off a Wednesday night open thread. I like these guys.

There’s a decent chance you’re about to discover your favorite new band. Based in San Francisco and led by Liam McCormick, The Family Crest builds its songs from a combination of infectious enthusiasm and powerful talent. The group owes its huge sound not just to its seven members, but to the community that records and plays with them. Eighty people are credited on The Family Crest’s first album, Beneath the Brine. At the Tiny Desk, we heard from seven players with training in classical and jazz, as well as instruments including violin, cello, upright bass, flute, trombone, drums, guitar and McCormick’s voice. And what a voice: Trained as an opera singer but with a hunger for jazz, he’s one of those fortunate souls with plenty to express and the range to deliver. The three songs performed here give you a sense of what The Family Crest can do, though Beneath the Brine is what you’ll want to hear once your jaw has dropped watching this.

Set List:
“Beneath The Brine”
“Howl”
“Make Me A Boat”

Credits:
Producers: Bob Boilen, Denise DeBelius; Audio Engineer: Kevin Wait; Videographers: Denise DeBelius, Colin Marshall; Production Assistant: Sarah Tilotta; photo by Sarah Tilotta/NPR

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359 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 5:49:10pm

Oh, and by the way…

2 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 5:49:49pm
3 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 5:51:04pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Well. That’s interesting.

4 austin_blue  Aug 6, 2014 5:51:10pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Which particular stalker was this?

5 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 5:51:17pm
6 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 5:52:27pm
7 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 5:54:15pm

re: #4 austin_blue

twitter.com

8 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 5:54:35pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Particularly considering, aren’t many of them gun-worshiping fanatics? That could be downright dangerous.

9 Dr Lizardo  Aug 6, 2014 5:55:19pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards and I leave you with this.

A Finnish bluegrass band called Steve’n’Seagulls and their cover of AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck”.

Enjoy!

Youtube Video

10 austin_blue  Aug 6, 2014 5:55:32pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

twitter.com

Oh, that guy

twitter.com

11 dog philosopher  Aug 6, 2014 5:58:48pm

sofa sized art

can’t imagine why this band name isn’t taken…

12 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 5:59:02pm

Guaranteed: these obsessed freaks are eagerly following these comments right now, taking screenshots.

So please allow me to say: fuck you. You lose.

13 dog philosopher  Aug 6, 2014 6:01:15pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Guaranteed: these obsessed freaks are eagerly following these comments right now, taking screenshots.

So please allow me to say: fuck you. You lose.

im kickin pixels and takin screenshots

14 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 6:01:19pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Guaranteed: these obsessed freaks are eagerly following these comments right now, taking screenshots.

So please allow me to say: fuck you. You lose.

I wonder how miserable it must be, being so eaten up with hatred and evil.

15 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:03:37pm

re: #14 thedopefishlives

I wonder how miserable it must be, being so eaten up with hatred and evil.

It’s what they chose, and what they deserve.

16 Floral Giraffe  Aug 6, 2014 6:03:44pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

MIRACLE!
(of course the hater will just make a new one…in 3-2-1)

17 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 6:04:15pm

They’re going to have to get that tiny desk out of there to make more room.

18 Floral Giraffe  Aug 6, 2014 6:04:54pm

re: #17 wrenchwench

Insert Gus’ throwing desk tirade here…

19 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 6:04:58pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

It’s what they chose, and what they deserve.

Oh, I absolutely agree. You might call it a morbid curiosity, if you will. Or maybe schadenfreude?

20 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:05:06pm

21 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 6:05:14pm

Oh great. The FB “constitutional conservative” is whining about ZOMG OBUMMER IZ BANNING BAKE SALES and linking to some RWNJ site with a screaming headline about it. Fun times.

22 ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2014 6:07:12pm

This music is freakin’ fantastic Charles. They can cover so much with their instrumentation. It’s like classic to the left, rock/jazz up the middle with big band to the right. They rock, they big-band, they go classic. And he can sing. Good stuff. Wow.

23 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 6:07:20pm

re: #18 Floral Giraffe

Insert Gus’ throwing desk tirade here…

Of course! Just — flip it!

24 JustMark  Aug 6, 2014 6:07:25pm

I dig the band.

25 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 6:08:31pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Of course! Just — flip it!

Flip it good!

26 lawhawk  Aug 6, 2014 6:09:21pm

re: #25 thedopefishlives

Dig that flip!

27 b_sharp  Aug 6, 2014 6:09:38pm

re: #21 Lidane

Oh great. The FB “constitutional conservative” is whining about ZOMG OBUMMER IZ BANNING BAKE SALES and linking to some RWNJ site with a screaming headline about it. Fun times.

Banning bake sales?

What have they twisted into unrecognizable trash now?

28 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:10:05pm
29 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:11:41pm

re: #22 ObserverArt

This music is freakin’ fantastic Charles. They can cover so much with their instrumentation. It’s like classic to the left, rock/jazz up the middle with big band to the right. They rock, they big-band, they go classic. And he can sing. Good stuff. Wow.

I agree - they’ve got a very unique sound, and great compositional ability too.

30 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 6, 2014 6:12:30pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

That page just says “Account Suspended” now, btw.

Still, good that they kicked the bastard off. Hope he doesn’t get back on.

31 Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2014 6:13:43pm

re: #9 Dr Lizardo

Well, goodnight, Lizards and I leave you with this.

A Finnish bluegrass band called Steve’n’Seagulls and their cover of AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck”.

Enjoy!

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Video

HA! Very good.

32 Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2014 6:14:47pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Is that the photo that was deemed to be owned by the simian who took it????

33 Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2014 6:15:31pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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ABL will be one to confer with.

34 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:16:43pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Is that the photo that was deemed to be owned by the simian who took it????

Yes. And although I feel for the photographer who owned the camera, the macaque monkey really did take that selfie, and it’s a great one.

35 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 6:16:48pm

re: #30 Rev_Arthur_Belling

That page just says “Account Suspended” now, btw.

Still, good that they kicked the bastard off. Hope he doesn’t get back on.

Mouse over the link to see the nic.

36 Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2014 6:17:37pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Is that the photo that was deemed to be owned by the simian who took it????

Why yes, it is!!!

washingtonpost.com

37 Stanley Sea  Aug 6, 2014 6:18:53pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Yes. And although I feel for the photographer who owned the camera, the macaque monkey really did take that selfie, and it’s a great one.

Well, any $$ made should go to the area the macque lives. Simple right?

38 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 6:20:52pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

39 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 6, 2014 6:21:24pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

Mouse over the link to see the nic.

Ah, thanks. That asshole had it coming.

grumpycat-good.jpg

40 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 6, 2014 6:22:06pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Yes. And although I feel for the photographer who owned the camera, the macaque monkey really did take that selfie, and it’s a great one.

I don’t feel for the photog at all. Seems to have been kind of a douche about the whole thing.

41 wrenchwench  Aug 6, 2014 6:22:22pm

Later, lizards.

42 darthstar  Aug 6, 2014 6:29:42pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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These monkey-selfies are the best.

43 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:31:43pm

We were talking about Holocaust deniers earlier, and I mentioned that I believe Holocaust denial is a form of mental illness. Here’s one of the best films I’ve ever seen on the subject, “Mr. Death,” directed by Errol Morris.

Warning, it’s kind of disturbing, because there are no easy answers to why these people do this. And the video was actually posted to YouTube by a denier. So there’s that. But it’s a look into the sick minds of the people who promote these memes.

Youtube Video

44 Lidane  Aug 6, 2014 6:31:49pm

re: #27 b_sharp

Banning bake sales?

What have they twisted into unrecognizable trash now?

Michelle Obama isn’t banning bake sales, birthday cake

45 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 6, 2014 6:32:08pm

Dang it Charles, I’m broke! I can’t be finding out about new bands like this one! Grumble. Need to go see how much a download of their album & ep is going to cost me… ;)

46 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 6:33:55pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

We were talking about Holocaust deniers earlier, and I mentioned that I believe Holocaust denial is a form of mental illness. Here’s one of the best films I’ve ever seen on the subject, “Mr. Death,” directed by Errol Morris.

Warning, it’s kind of disturbing, because there are no easy answers to why these people do this. And the video was actually posted to YouTube by a denier. So there’s that. But it’s a look into the sick minds of the people who promote these memes.

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For the record, Charles, some deniers actually behave in similar fashion to your stalkers. Sergey could probably fill you in on some of that.

47 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 6:35:07pm

re: #46 thedopefishlives

Absolutely. The behavior is very similar.

48 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 6:37:18pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Absolutely. The behavior is very similar.

Which only goes to strengthen the idea that conspiracy theorism (Holocaust denial, et al.), as well as political off-the-rails-nutjobs like your stalker brigade, are possibly linked by some kind of mental illness or illnesses. Not that they all have the same condition, but possibly having a condition predisposes one to this kind of behavior.

49 b_sharp  Aug 6, 2014 6:51:29pm

re: #48 thedopefishlives

Which only goes to strengthen the idea that conspiracy theorism (Holocaust denial, et al.), as well as political off-the-rails-nutjobs like your stalker brigade, are possibly linked by some kind of mental illness or illnesses. Not that they all have the same condition, but possibly having a condition predisposes one to this kind of behavior.

conspiracypsychology.com

50 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 6:57:45pm
51 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 6, 2014 6:58:03pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

We were talking about Holocaust deniers earlier, and I mentioned that I believe Holocaust denial is a form of mental illness. Here’s one of the best films I’ve ever seen on the subject, “Mr. Death,” directed by Errol Morris.

Warning, it’s kind of disturbing, because there are no easy answers to why these people do this. And the video was actually posted to YouTube by a denier. So there’s that. But it’s a look into the sick minds of the people who promote these memes.

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Video

That is one weird dude. Errol Morris, on the other hand, is a genius.

52 thedopefishlives  Aug 6, 2014 6:59:06pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

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*flips desk, lights on fire*

You have GOT to be fucking joking. They’re making an utterly batshit insane slippery-slope argument as a LEGAL BRIEF? If any judges cite this brief favorably, they should be retired. Forcibly.

53 b_sharp  Aug 6, 2014 7:00:12pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

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How incredibly stupid.

That anyone would believe this blows me away.

54 Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2014 7:00:36pm
55 Belafon  Aug 6, 2014 7:02:22pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

Don’t see what they’re worried about: Those lead to more gun owners.

56 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 6, 2014 7:03:36pm

re: #52 thedopefishlives

*flips desk, lights on fire*

You have GOT to be fucking joking. They’re making an utterly batshit insane slippery-slope argument as a LEGAL BRIEF? If any judges cite this brief favorably, they should be retired. Forcibly.

Not surprising, really, given Rick Santorum’s history of man on turtle (?) statements.

Still, I have a burning flipped desk on the deck now as well. SMH

57 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 6, 2014 7:06:00pm

Well, if that’s the case, di kele is fucked.

58 Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2014 7:26:05pm

Dear stalker douches,

Sincerely,
Me.

59 Amory Blaine  Aug 6, 2014 7:37:07pm

Don’t light the tiny desk on fire.

60 Gus  Aug 6, 2014 8:05:44pm
61 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 8:25:25pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

We were talking about Holocaust deniers earlier, and I mentioned that I believe Holocaust denial is a form of mental illness. Here’s one of the best films I’ve ever seen on the subject, “Mr. Death,” directed by Errol Morris.

Warning, it’s kind of disturbing, because there are no easy answers to why these people do this. And the video was actually posted to YouTube by a denier. So there’s that. But it’s a look into the sick minds of the people who promote these memes.

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Just watched this. It is a complete mystery how the mind of a Holocaust Denier ticks. Watching that film just made me more confused. Leuchter is a sad pathetic little man, that’s for sure.

62 freetoken  Aug 6, 2014 8:33:19pm

There’s an entire class of what I’ll call “reality denial” that doesn’t make it into the official books (DSM-IV) but I think exhibit more than enough anti-social behavior or disconnect from reality to be of concern.

Holocaust denial is one of them.

63 Floral Giraffe  Aug 6, 2014 8:55:32pm

Is this thing on? Tap Tap…

64 klys  Aug 6, 2014 8:58:04pm

I have Cherry Garcia ice cream.

65 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 8:59:17pm

re: #64 klys

I have Cherry Garcia ice cream.

My favorite. Haven’t had it in years, I have to be very conservative with the sweets on account of my teeth having a cavity in each one before I turned 18.

66 Teukka  Aug 6, 2014 8:59:27pm

re: #63 Floral Giraffe

Is this thing on? Tap Tap…

*plugs ears as the auditorium is filled with a screeching feedback noise*

67 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 9:00:15pm

re: #66 Teukka

*plugs ears as the auditorium is filled with a screeching feedback noise*

Youtube Video

68 klys  Aug 6, 2014 9:01:37pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

My favorite. Haven’t had it in years, I have to be very conservative with the sweets on account of my teeth having a cavity in each one before I turned 18.

They sold it at the convenience store where you could use dining hall dollars on campus.

It’s a miracle I didn’t gain 20 pounds that first year.

69 Floral Giraffe  Aug 6, 2014 9:04:25pm

re: #64 klys

I have Cherry Garcia ice cream.

Good stuff!

70 klys  Aug 6, 2014 9:07:12pm

re: #69 Floral Giraffe

Good stuff!

The enabler husband bought it the night I had dental work done last month.

I figured it would be a nice treat tonight since I have been working hard on a surprise for him when he gets back home (mostly related to some impressive progress on house-related issues).

72 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 6, 2014 9:12:33pm
73 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:17:34pm

clickhole.com
This is great. The same can be said about those who think libertarianism is needed for the US after hearing Luap Nor speak.

74 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 9:19:57pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

That’s awesome.

75 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:20:24pm

re: #71 Gus

A handmade flag given to Betty Ford that demonstrates her support for the Equal Rights Amendment.

Her husband honestly is the last Republican president or presidential candidate that I could actually see myself supporting. He wasn’t a so-con whacko and he also was actually fiscally conservative as opposed to “fiscally conservative” like Reagan and Bush II.

76 dog philosopher  Aug 6, 2014 9:20:56pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

clickhole.com
This is great. The same can be said about those who think libertarianism is needed for the US after hearing Luap Nor speak.

either this person is powerfully stupid or it’s a parody

77 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:22:14pm

re: #76 dog philosopher

either this person is powerfully stupid or it’s a parody

It’s parody. Clickhole is The Onion’s Buzzfeed parody.

78 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 9:24:29pm

Clickhole put up a three hour YouTube of butter melting on a plate and put it out on the internet as ZOMG You Will Not Believe What Happens In This Video, The 90-Minute Mark Will Shock You!!!

I love The Onion!

79 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:24:45pm

re: #74 Ryan King

That’s awesome.

I really think it shows accurately how many younger people see libertarianism. Ron Paul’s speeches about “liberty” and “ending the drug war” sound great until you look at what the guy actually stands for and how if we did things the libertarian way in regards to the economy, we’d be setting our country generations back. And that’s not even touching on the fact the flirting relationship many libertarians have with white supremacist groups.

80 Gus  Aug 6, 2014 9:26:29pm

Good night.

81 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:27:44pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

Clickhole put up a three hour YouTube of butter melting on a plate and put it out on the internet as ZOMG You Will Not Believe What Happens In This Video, The 90-Minute Mark Will Shock You!!!

I love The Onion!

I love their quizzes especially the choose your adventure types like “Should we ask your neighbor to use your pool” or “If I ordered an appetizer, would you split it?” Really, I don’t mind reading Buzzfeed but ClickHole is such a great parody of it.

82 bratwurst  Aug 6, 2014 9:27:48pm
83 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 9:28:00pm

This Stick Of Butter Is Left Out At Room Temperature; You Won’t Believe What Happens Next!!!

Youtube Video

Seriously though, folks, you do not need to watch this video. It really is just a stick of butter sitting out for three hours.

84 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 9:28:17pm

Though it has almost a million views!!!

85 HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2014 9:33:05pm

Did anyone catch that new HBO documentary on Nixon yet? Apparently only three people knew about his private taping system- H.R Haldeman, Alexander Butterfield, and some aide named Stephen Bull. Some presidents look better with the passage of time but Nixon is one that keeps on looking worse and worse. Sigh if only RFK hadn’t been killed.

86 Ryan King  Aug 6, 2014 9:33:19pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I think it was pretty brilliant satire.

87 Comfortable, Fortunate, Oppressed, White Person  Aug 6, 2014 9:33:39pm

That band was so good. Thank you Mr. Charles!

88 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 9:34:02pm

Man Locks Himself In Hot Car To Prove That Babies And Dogs Are Cowards

courtesy: @ClickHole

Youtube Video

89 Comfortable, Fortunate, Oppressed, White Person  Aug 6, 2014 9:40:11pm

Aaaand fixed it! Hehehe.

90 BeachDem  Aug 6, 2014 10:00:16pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I really think it shows accurately how many younger people see libertarianism. Ron Paul’s speeches about “liberty” and “ending the drug war” sound great until you look at what the guy actually stands for and how if we did things the libertarian way in regards to the economy, we’d be setting our country generations back. And that’s not even touching on the fact the flirting relationship many libertarians have with white supremacist groups.

They really need to follow Charles P. Pierce’s 5-minute rule on the Paul family:

“Regular readers here are familiar with the blog’s Five Minute Rule regarding any member of the Paul family and their most fervent acolytes. If you listen to Crazy Uncle Liberty (!), Senator Aqua Buddha, or their disciples for five minutes, you find yourself nodding in agreement with almost everything they say. At precisely the 5:01 mark, however, the person to whom you’re listening will say something that detaches the entire conversation from the plane of physical reality and sends it sailing off into the ether.”

91 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 10:06:19pm

The Nation has become a disgrace.

92 Floral Giraffe  Aug 6, 2014 10:13:20pm

re: #87 Comfortable, Fortunate, Oppressed, White Person

Nice new nic & avatar!

93 Mentis Fugit  Aug 6, 2014 10:16:09pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

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Spotted!
CRM 114

Confirmed!
I am irrationally pleased with myself.

94 Comfortable, Fortunate, Oppressed, White Person  Aug 6, 2014 10:45:08pm

re: #92 Floral Giraffe

Thank you Floral!

95 goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2014 10:53:53pm

I’m actually starting to wonder if Vladimir Putin might be severely and profoundly retarded.

Today, “with the goal of protecting Russia’s national interests,” Vladimir Putin issued a decree “banning or limiting” the import of food stuffs from countries that imposed sanctions on Russia after pro-Russian separatists shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in Ukraine. That includes the United States, the European Union, Japan, Australia, and Canada. Russia, despite once being the bread basket of Europe, now imports 40 percent of its food. And even if local growers and producers step up to fill the gap left by the ban, it will still take a long time and the transition will be rough.

While the language of the ukase is vague—Putin also directs the government to determine which goods to ban or limit, and how (this, one Russian opposition activist pointed out, will just lead to importers lining up outside bureaucrats’ offices with suitcases of cash)—the Russian blogosphere has lost no time in panicking. (The Twitter account of DozhdTV, the independent Russian channel, tweeted: “American whiskey, Dutch cheeses, German beer, Australian beef, Greek olives. Say bye-bye to all that.”)

You’ll notice that the one thing the Europeans didn’t put sanctions on was Russian natural gas, because they actually need that shit. Well I’m pretty sure that Russians also need to eat, and while the article above tends to focus on the luxury end of things in reality unless Putin can secure adequate alternative supplies the average person in Russia is going to have a very hard time with this.

Among G8 countries, only Russia and Japan are net food importers. Russia imports about 46 percent of the food and agricultural raw materials it consumes each year. At a February 14 press conference, Putin revealed that some of Russia’s largest cities import up to 85 percent of the food they consume. All in all, Russia imports 75 percent of the meat it consumes and half of the vegetable oil.

Still worse, Russian dependence on imported food is on the rise. Food imports increased by a factor of three between 2000 and 2006, and the primary reason for this is the ongoing decline of the country’s agricultural sector. To take just one example, meat and milk production has fallen by half since 1990, and Russia’s total cattle herd has declined to the level of 1918.

Despite all of Moscow’s talk of its “sovereign democracy,” the country has failed to boost its independence in this crucial arena.

According to figures released by the World Bank and the UN last month, global price increases for food are likely to continue, and accelerate, for the next decade. Russia’s dependence on imported food has important domestic and international implications. Not only is it possible that food-related social unrest could disturb Russia’s fragile stability, but it is also likely that the costs of supporting this habit could derail the Kremlin’s ambitious plans to reshape the national economy.

This isn’t the move of a strategic genius, it’s clinical goddamned insanity. The absolute last thing his economy needs as oil prices fall and his economy teeters towards recession is for the average Russian’s disposable income to be swallowed up by a sudden and dramatic spike in food prices due to an artificially generated shortage. I mean, I’m nothing close to an economist but this seems like pretty basic fucking common sense.

96 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 10:54:14pm

re: #93 Mentis Fugit

Spotted!
CRM 114

Confirmed!
I am irrationally pleased with myself.

Holy Shit! There’s a Dr. Strangelove reference in Back To The Future. I did not know that until right now. Dr. Strangelove is one of my very favorite movies.

I am gut-laughing on the floor deep inside right now. :D

97 teleskiguy  Aug 6, 2014 11:00:09pm
98 klys  Aug 6, 2014 11:06:36pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

This isn’t the move of a strategic genius, it’s clinical goddamned insanity. The absolute last thing his economy needs as oil prices fall and his economy teeters towards recession is for the average Russian’s disposable income to be swallowed up by a sudden and dramatic spike in food prices due to an artificially generated shortage. I mean, I’m nothing close to an economist but this seems like pretty basic fucking common sense.

Common sense appears to be in disturbingly short supply, while delusional thinking and black and white ideologies abound.

99 gwangung  Aug 6, 2014 11:18:51pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

This isn’t the move of a strategic genius, it’s clinical goddamned insanity. The absolute last thing his economy needs as oil prices fall and his economy teeters towards recession is for the average Russian’s disposable income to be swallowed up by a sudden and dramatic spike in food prices due to an artificially generated shortage. I mean, I’m nothing close to an economist but this seems like pretty basic fucking common sense.

I dunno; look at the Republican party—-basic common sense is pretty lacking there, too.

100 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 6, 2014 11:19:58pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Great Russian writer Vladimir Sorokin must be a f’n prophet, because in the Day of the Oprichnik and in Telluria he predicted Russia’s slouching towards religious fundamentalism, isolationism (the Great Western Wall), the eventual Chinese influence (many of his Russian personages speak in a mixture of Russian and Chinese). He also predicted that Russia will fall apart and that Putin will be instrumental in this, so much that a weird sect of future Russia-haters somewhere in Russian forests will have Putin as one of their idols (along with Lenin and Gorbachev).

101 klys  Aug 6, 2014 11:40:13pm

I am discovering that there are some topics where this is the best response ever.

Multiple +1s to the Lizards who’ve mentioned him.

102 freetoken  Aug 7, 2014 12:15:21am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Did anyone catch that new HBO documentary on Nixon yet? Apparently only three people knew about his private taping system- H.R Haldeman, Alexander Butterfield, and some aide named Stephen Bull. Some presidents look better with the passage of time but Nixon is one that keeps on looking worse and worse. Sigh if only RFK hadn’t been killed.

But, but… PaleoPat has been spending the past couple of weeks glorifying RMN. Of course, PaleoPat also has a new book out on RMN, so there is correlation with causation.

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 12:23:27am

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

I’m actually starting to wonder if Vladimir Putin might be severely and profoundly retarded.

You’ll notice that the one thing the Europeans didn’t put sanctions on was Russian natural gas, because they actually need that shit. Well I’m pretty sure that Russians also need to eat, and while the article above tends to focus on the luxury end of things in reality unless Putin can secure adequate alternative supplies the average person in Russia is going to have a very hard time with this.

This isn’t the move of a strategic genius, it’s clinical goddamned insanity. The absolute last thing his economy needs as oil prices fall and his economy teeters towards recession is for the average Russian’s disposable income to be swallowed up by a sudden and dramatic spike in food prices due to an artificially generated shortage. I mean, I’m nothing close to an economist but this seems like pretty basic fucking common sense.

There is a perverse genius behind it. As a result of his policies, the poorest people will be the hardest hit and the most filled with resentment for …. you got it … THE WEST for imposing those unjust sanctions, to which the ban on imports was the only proper response.

104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 12:34:32am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is a perverse genius behind it. As a result of his policies, the poorest people will be the hardest hit and the most filled with resentment for …. you got it … THE WEST for imposing those unjust sanctions, to which the ban on imports was the only proper response.

Possible, but not a given. Just as easily it can turn into resentment against Putin. No genius there.

105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 12:54:38am

re: #104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Possible, but not a given. Just as easily it can turn into resentment against Putin. No genius there.

It could lead to resentment in educated circles who are able to put two and two together, but remember, he controls a lot of the media and will certainly
spin it to the masses that the WEST is responsible for anything they have to suffer.

106 goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2014 12:57:18am
America’s exports to Russia amounted to
$11.2 billion or 0.7% of overall US exports

1. Machines, engines, pumps: $2.3 billion
2. Vehicles: $2 billion
3. Aircraft, spacecraft: $2 billion
4. Electronic equipment: $674.2 million
5. Medical, technical equipment: $659.9 million
6. Plastics: $378.7 million
7. Meat: $323.9 million
8. Inorganic chemicals: $237 million
9. Fruits, nuts: $222.6 million
10. Other chemical goods: $199.3 million

Imagine you’re Putin, wanting to hurt the US. Looking at that list and knowing your own domestic food production situation how in the hell do you pick agricultural imports as the category to block?

107 goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2014 1:03:14am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It could lead to resentment in educated circles who are able to put two and two together, but remember, he controls a lot of the media and will certainly
spin it to the masses that the WEST is responsible for anything they have to suffer.

You don’t have to be educated to have a growling stomach. There are still lots of Russians who remember the Soviet era shortages first hand, and I’m certain everyone’s parents has a story about the old days. The last decade has been very good for them, people aren’t going want to give any of the modern improvements up, especially not the first world access to food quality and variety. I think this issue will hit people in a very tender spot and they’re not going to have a go along to get along attitude about it.

108 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 1:05:34am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It could lead to resentment in educated circles who are able to put two and two together, but remember, he controls a lot of the media and will certainly
spin it to the masses that the WEST is responsible for anything they have to suffer.

He can tell whatever he wants, but everybody knows that this particular step is Putin’s responsibility. Again, I don’t exclude that some people are so stupid as to blame the West for this particular thing, but neither can you exclude that Putin will be blamed. For when it becomes a matter of one’s empty belly, people tend to become more, let’s say, practically minded, propaganda or not.

109 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 1:10:52am

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

Imagine you’re Putin, wanting to hurt the US. Looking at that list and knowing your own domestic food production situation how in the hell do you pick agricultural imports as the category to block?

Because you know that 300 million dollars worth of meat will impact the masses and fill them with righteous patriotic Putinesque rage.

It is all very calculated.

110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 1:12:06am

re: #108 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He can tell whatever he wants, but everybody knows that this particular step is Putin’s responsibility. Again, I don’t exclude that some people are so stupid as to blame the West for this particular thing, but neither can you exclude that Putin will be blamed. For when it becomes a matter of one’s empty belly, people tend to become more, let’s say, practically minded, propaganda or not.

Of course Putin will be blamed, but he has the ability to control the media and now the Internet and he will put a major spin on it, deflecting the blame from himself.

Again, Imagine if Fox News was the ONLY source of information out there.

111 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 1:12:46am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Of course Putin will be blamed, but he has the ability to control the media and now the Internet and he will put a major spin on it, deflecting the blame from himself.

In which way?

112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 1:16:30am

re: #111 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

In which way?

By appealing to peoples’ sense of Russian nationalistic price, which he has come to embody.

The message he sells with his bare-chested thumping is that Russia is no longer a hapless, weakened state, at the mercy of of the Imperialists, it has a right to assert itself in any way that Putin sees fit.

I am simply thinking in terms of why Putin is cutting agricultural imports. The people most affected will be the poor classes. Why would he do that unless he thought he could spin it to his advantage? Someone posited the theory that he is retarded, but I do not think that is the case.

113 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 1:27:23am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

By appealing to peoples’ sense of Russian nationalistic price, which he has come to embody.

The message he sells with his bare-chested thumping is that Russia is no longer a hapless, weakened state, at the mercy of of the Imperialists, it has a right to assert itself in any way that Putin sees fit.

Patriotism goes good with a full belly. Putin’s main strength was the promise of stabilnost’ (and his ability to provide, relying on the huge oil prices). If he can’t guarantee that, the basis of his regime becomes shaky. His adventurism may come back to haunt him.

114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 1:32:40am

re: #113 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Patriotism goes good with a full belly. Putin’s main strength was the promise of stabilnost’ (and his ability to provide, relying on the huge oil prices). If he can’t guarantee that, the basis of his regime becomes shaky. His adventurism may come back to haunt him.

I hope that it does, I am just trying to figure out his motivations. And the more the bellies start to rumble, we can expect that he will try to drown out the rumbling with the rumble of tank treads.

115 freetoken  Aug 7, 2014 1:35:45am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I hope that it does, I am just trying to figure out his motivations.

Stay in power? Feed his already enormous ego, as the savior of the Rus?

116 Teukka  Aug 7, 2014 1:36:01am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I hope that it does, I am just trying to figure out his motivations. And the more the bellies start to rumble, we can expect that he will try to drown out the rumbling with the rumble of tank treads.

You mean like pulling a Hamas, support at home waning, so pick a fight with a neighbor known to make you defecate teeth for a while, so that the losses incurred on the battlefield will bolster domestic support?
Plausible.

117 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 7, 2014 1:38:54am

re: #116 Teukka

You mean like pulling a Hamas, support at home waning, so pick a fight with a neighbor known to make you defecate teeth for a while, so that the losses incurred on the battlefield will bolster domestic support?
Plausible.

What does that phrase even mean? (Serious question)

118 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 1:40:56am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Note the other trap he got himself into - he inspired (and sponsored) the war in Ukraine but refused the direct military help to the terrorists (uh, sorry, “rebels”). If he doesn’t invade (unfortunately there’s still a chance of that), any patriotic propaganda will ring hollow, because he basically betrayed these people.

Now, one way to cut this Gordian knot for him is to invade after all, “war will erase everything” (blame the economic failures on war, etc.). If he’s mad enough, he just might try, all the consequences (predictable and not) be damned. Of course, then only the North Korean scenario would be possible.

119 freetoken  Aug 7, 2014 1:41:25am

The population loss in Russia is non-trivial. It followed the economic and social chaos following the collapse of the USSR.

It all strikes me as one last gasp of that old European thuggishness, the heavy handed ruler wearing the cloak of legitimacy provided by the religion (and remember, Putin embraced the Russian Orthodox system rather publicly after the fall of the USSR.)

It’s part of the worldview that the paleo-right so desires, the ethno-centric and racist political parties found in various European countries.

These are people who want to return (depending on where they’re located) to the 16th, 17th, or 18th centuries.

120 freetoken  Aug 7, 2014 1:42:25am

It seems like many people don’t want to live in the 21st century.

121 Teukka  Aug 7, 2014 2:05:38am

re: #115 freetoken

Stay in power? Feed his already enormous ego, as the savior of the Rus?

Same motivation as this guy Adolf Schicklgrubel.
Fascistic nationalism spun to suit place and time.
Checking around with friends around town and local non-extremist media, some Russians behave like they own the place.
Russian diplomats account for 171 of the parking tickets incurred by diplomatic missions in Stockholm county alone last year. For perspective, China has 52 and other European countries in a few each year. And they also have the poorest ticket payment morale.
Behavior of one part of Russians is similar, loud parties until late at night, throwing champagne bottles, champagne and burning cigarette buts from windows and balconies in the posher parts of town, at times police has to be called to deal with them. They seem to be the minority tho, most seem like they don’t want to make waves with Swedes nor their countrymen, while there is a small but growing group who seem disgusted outright at their countrymen’s behavior internationally and in Sweden.

In historical perspective, this kind of behavior is nothing new, it goes hand in hand with the fascist nationalist ideologies which basically are nothing more than rebranded collective narcissism. And if such an ideology does not implode on itself domestically, it always leads to crying and gnashing of teeth for the country’s neighbors as well as the country when the ideological high is over and the hangover begins to set in amid the ruins.

*smh*

Sources:
Dagens Nyheter -
Russian diplomats the worst parking sinners (Swedish)
Unnamed friends and acquaintances around the county.

122 Teukka  Aug 7, 2014 2:06:51am

re: #117 Rev_Arthur_Belling

What does that phrase even mean? (Serious question)

Shitting teeth, what you do when you get kicked or punched in the face so hard you swallow some of your teeth.
The implication was that a country or organizations provokes a response from another party knowing full well they will have their ass handed to them.
Didn’t want to use profanities this early in the day. Ah well.

123 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 7, 2014 2:11:22am

re: #122 Teukka

Ah, thanks. Never heard that phrase before lol.

124 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 2:11:58am

re: #121 Teukka

If criticizing Russians-as-such is OK, then it’s OK towards Muslim immigrants, Roma and so on.

125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 2:14:28am

re: #119 freetoken

The population loss in Russia is non-trivial. It followed the economic and social chaos following the collapse of the USSR.

Russian has an enormous diaspora. And where they were once privileged minorities in the other Soviet republics, enjoying the best jobs, education and chances of advancement, they are now discriminated against, sometimes even denied citizenship.

This is one of the things that feeds their sense of indignation, which Putin has been instrumentalizing to his own ends.

126 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 2:15:36am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Nobody is denied citizenship for being a Russian.

127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 2:24:58am

re: #126 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Nobody is denied citizenship for being a Russian.

Of course not, they are denied citizenship for not learning the language of the country they were born in. Russian used to be the lingua franca of the USSR, now several Baltic states have made learning the language a condition of citizenship, even for Russians who were born there.

I am not arguing or justifying either side, but it certainly is the sort of thing that feeds seething resentment.

128 Teukka  Aug 7, 2014 2:27:33am

re: #124 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If criticizing Russians-as-such is OK, then it’s OK towards Muslim immigrants, Roma and so on.

I didn’t mean it as a categorical accusations against all Russians, hence the part “some russians” in the original text, meaning a subgroup of Russians (which I also clearly pointed out was a minority) here in Sweden.
It is a well-known fact that extreme nationalist sentiments in a country can bring out the worst of behavior of expatriates of that country living abroad, and sometimes does. Russians aren’t the first group to behave like that when high on nationalism, nor will they be the last group.
And they are by no means the champions in the expatriate nationalist douchebaggery world league.

129 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 2:38:41am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And the Russians who learned the language and became citizens (I think it’s the majority now) aren’t discriminated against (except maybe on a personal level, but that happens everywhere). If the sense of entitlement (“Why should I learn the language, I was born here!!1”) breeds resentment, the state isn’t to blame, at least not in the situation with the Baltic countries, where Soviets were recent violent occupiers and where some measure of civic cohesion and loyalty was necessary to establish. (Obviously, the situation with older people is different, but they’re a minority within minority and thus an exception, we’re talking in general.)

Moreover, while some aspects of non-citizenship can be painful (I’ve read smth about some restrictions on privatization), mostly they have to do with not being able to take official posts, and without knowing the language it’s not really possible anyway. Interestingly, the moment the non-citizens were able to travel around the EU with their special non-citizen passports, the flow of new naturalizations weakened considerably.

130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 2:54:18am

re: #129 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I am aware of the modalities and I am not defending either side. It is just that the Russian expatriate minorities lost their status as a privileged minority and became either second-class or simply regular citizens.

That often does not go down well with the less-educated among them, and those are the people Putin is taking advantage of.

131 Teukka  Aug 7, 2014 3:20:10am

Musical Sanity Break: Thunderstruck by Steve’n’Seagulls (LIVE)
Youtube Video

132 Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2014 3:20:39am

Quick everybody, look surprised:

133 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 4:04:23am

“If Hispanic Americans hear that the GOP doesn’t want them in the United States, they won’t pay attention to our next sentence. It doesn’t matter what we say about education, jobs or the economy; if Hispanics think that we do not want them here, they will close their ears to our policies,” Fournier quoted from the report, while appearing on “The Dale Jackson Show” on WAPI.

Brooks responded by saying “Americans shouldn’t be divided by race” and that targeting Hispanic voters would be “race-baiting.”

“That argument, is playing hand in glove with the Democratic race-baiting strategy, and it has to come to a stop,” he said. “I’m one of those who thinks that it doesn’t make any difference if you’re Hispanic, or you’re white, or you’re Asian, or you’re black, people throughout America want to do what’s in the best interest of America.”

134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 4:08:56am

re: #133 Lidane

As long as the GOP refuses to distance itself from “deport ‘em all!” and “build a Berlin Wall at the border” advocates, then it is fighting a losing battle to win over Hispanics.

It is true that a lot of Hispanics are conservatives on a lot of social issues, but they also have a strong sense of community (which also means that they value strong state and community social services) and are acutely aware of the value of a good education (which means public schools and state universities).

They do not necessarily want to privatize everything in sight, disband unions or abolish the minimum wage

135 Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2014 4:32:15am

re: #133 Lidane

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And what’s “in the best interest of America” of course is doing everything possible to ensure the dominance of white male Christian Americans, to the detriment of everybody else. If non-whites can’t accept that, then they’re not “Real ‘Murikans!”

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 4:36:27am

From the front lines of the War on Whites:

137 Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2014 4:40:17am

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Putin is trying for autarky, yet his country’s economy is in no position to pull that off.

I can see the possibility of food riots in the not-too-distant future - not that Putin needs to be concerned; he’ll just send the security forces out into the streets and gun down the rioters, and then claim it’s all “Western orchestrated provocations” and that order must be restored.

138 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 4:45:37am

re: #132 Targetpractice

Quick everybody, look surprised:

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3 more years in Russia? That lucky bastard!

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139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 4:46:57am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

Putin is trying for autarky, yet his country’s economy is in no position to pull that off.

I can see the possibility of food riots in the not-too-distant future - not that Putin needs to be concerned; he’ll just send the security forces out into the streets and gun down the rioters, and then claim it’s all “Western orchestrated provocations” and that order must be restored.

They will not necessarily starve, they will just fall back to the Soviet-era standards of food supply. If Putin can sell the masses on the notion that they are doing it in the name of patriotism, they will not riot.

And the rich and plutocrat classes will still have access.

140 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 4:47:20am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

Putin is trying for autarky, yet his country’s economy is in no position to pull that off.

I can see the possibility of food riots in the not-too-distant future - not that Putin needs to be concerned; he’ll just send the security forces out into the streets and gun down the rioters, and then claim it’s all “Western orchestrated provocations” and that order must be restored.

It takes at least that long to enjoy all the freedomz

141 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 4:54:17am

re: #132 Targetpractice

Quick everybody, look surprised:

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Meanwhile WhiteAsSnowden is kicking himself The Fuck was I thinking, listening to Greenwald?

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 4:56:27am

Woke up the gun-fuckers bright & early

HURR HURR WELL REGULATED HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH MAH UNINFRINGED RITE TO KEEP AS MENNY GUNZ AS I WANT!!!!!!!

143 Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2014 4:56:39am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They will not necessarily starve, they will just fall back to the Soviet-era standards of food supply. If Putin can sell the masses on the notion that they are doing it in the name of patriotism, they will not riot.

And the rich and plutocrat classes will still have access.

Fair enough; after all, those Soviet-era standards are certainly within the living memory of a good many people in Russia, and if you can sweeten the bitter pill with the sugar of patriotism/nationalism, it helps it go down easier.

I can talk to people my age here - mid-40s - and they can certainly quite easily recall how things were back in the days of the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic. Needless to say, the overwhelming majority have no desire to go back to such a sorry state of affairs.

144 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 4:57:28am

[never mind, just a couple of blocked trolls, nothing to see here, keep moving]

145 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 5:15:36am
146 Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2014 5:20:38am

I’m digging that website on the psychology of conspiracy.

Stephen King had an excellent take on the JFK assassination and the conspiracy theories that surround it, and I’m going to have to paraphrase his take from his excellent non-fiction book Danse Macabre.

The reason so many believe in a vast and complex conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy is because it’s easier for people to believe that than it is for people to believe that one nutty loser, who had never accomplished much of anything in his life, could gun down the President of the United States of America with a cheap mail-order rifle and scope while eating greasy, cold fried chicken. If such a person could blow away the most powerful man in the world, for whatever twisted reasons existed in his disturbed mind, then what chance do any of us have? The idea of a lone gunman forever altering the course of history is simply far too terrifying for many people to grasp; therefore, an elaborate conspiracy surely had to have existed, because that’s easier for people to accept than it is to grasp that a singular madman could do so much damage with one extraordinarily lucky shot.

And Mr. King, if you happen to read this, sorry for not having the exact quote to hand - I had to rely on my memory of the book. But that observation and insight ring true, at least for me.

147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 5:30:03am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

There are a number of inconsistencies about how the investigation was conducted, but I do not see these as a basis to go off on wild tangents.

148 wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2014 5:32:11am

Google the headline to avoid paywall.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 5:42:31am

Followup on yesterday’s conversation about automatic burger machines. The Momentum website has not been updated in 2 years. I could not find out how much this machine costs. There are no press releases of rollouts.

My conclusion is that there is a law of diminishing returns for the cost-effectiveness of such a device. It’s probably they do not want to sell it outright, but offer it through a lease plan (no lease plans available at their 2-year-old website)

If this device is rolled out anywhere, it would probably be in Asia.

I do not see this as the future of fast food, just as a meme for FUCK THE POORS.

150 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 5:44:26am

Your morning Virginia brief:

151 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 5:46:13am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

I’m not quite sure it explains most CTs. I think the real reason is the “twilight mentality”, that readily finds patterns where there are none. We all search for patterns, that’s an evolutionary trait, and I think most of us have fallen for one CT or another at some stage, sort of like we’ve all fallen ill at some time. But once this trait becomes exaggerated, pathological - there you go, CT mindset.

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 5:48:13am
153 Tigger2  Aug 7, 2014 5:49:22am

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, if that’s the case, di kele is fucked.

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Those people are fucking idiots,

154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 5:49:38am

re: #151 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’m not quite sure it explains most CTs. I think the real reason is the “twilight mentality”, that readily finds patterns where there are none. We all search for patterns, that’s an evolutionary trait, and I think most of us have fallen for one CT or another at some stage, sort of like we’ve all fallen ill at some time. But once this trait becomes exaggerated, pathological - there you go, CT mindset.

It is simple: when certain official facts do not add up to sufficiently dispel doubts, it would be irresponsible not to speculate wildly about why they don’t.

I am fairly certain that there are flying objects out there that we have not identified. And that’s all that it means. It takes a lot of mental discipline not to get sucked into the vortex of adding selected facts and distortions to wishful and/or paranoid thinking and coming up with a whole raft of idiotic theories.

155 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 5:49:52am

Putin is saving USG money by imprisoning Snowden in Russia.

What, you think he’s free to move around wherever he wants? He can’t even get on Teh Internets.

156 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 5:50:24am
157 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 5:51:42am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is simple: when certain official facts do not add up to sufficiently dispel doubts, it would be irresponsible not to speculate wildly about why they don’t.

I hope it’s dry humor, coz wild speculation is the last thing one needs.

158 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 5:54:56am

re: #152 Pie-onist Overlord

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Snowden isn’t imprisoned. Huh, you learn something new every day.

159 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 5:57:07am
Prevent him from speaking out

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
If you define “speaking out” as requiring him to read from a carefully prepared script every month or so

160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 5:58:24am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

BTW, what would be the main inconsistencies?

161 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 5:59:04am

re: #159 Pie-onist Overlord

Threat of imprisonment = imprisonment.

And for Greenwald, it would probably be expanded to include the mental distress of a potential threat of imprisonment = imprisonment and cruel and unusual punishment.

/looks around, and still doesn’t have a fuck to give about Greenwald.

162 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 6:01:07am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

I’m digging that website on the psychology of conspiracy.

Stephen King had an excellent take on the JFK assassination and the conspiracy theories that surround it, and I’m going to have to paraphrase his take from his excellent non-fiction book Danse Macabre.

The reason so many believe in a vast and complex conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy is because it’s easier for people to believe that then it is for people to believe that one singular loser, who had never accomplished much of anything in his life, could gun down the President of the United States of America with a cheap mail-order rifle and scope while eating greasy, cold fried chicken. If such a person could blow away the most powerful man in the world, for whatever twisted reasons existed in his disturbed mind, then what chance do any of us have? The idea of a lone gunman forever altering the course of history is simply far too terrifying for many people to grasp; therefore, an elaborate conspiracy surely had to have existed, because that’s easier for people to accept than it is for us to accept that a singular madman could do so much damage with one extraordinarily lucky shot.

And Mr. King, if you happen to read this, sorry for not having the exact quote to hand - I had to rely on my memory of the book. But that observation and insight ring true, at least for me.

The ironic (or cognitive dissonance) thing is that some of the same people who believe in inane conspiracy theories like that think they need an AK-47 or M4 clone to go grocery shopping because you never know when some “thug” is going to try to murder you for no reason.

163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:01:55am

Interesting, both Israelis and Palestinians exhibit positive dynamics in their views of Russia:

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 6:04:27am

re: #157 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I hope it’s dry humor, coz wild speculation is the last thing one needs.

left off my sarc tag.

it is irresponsible not to

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165 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 6:04:34am

re: #163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Interesting, both Israelis and Palestinians exhibit positive dynamics in their views of Russia:
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Well, a lot of Israelis ARE from Russia and travel back & forth frequently.

166 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 6:04:51am

re: #161 lawhawk

/looks around, and still doesn’t have a fuck to give about Greenwald.

Re: Greenwald/Snowden/Assange/dudebros

167 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:05:48am

You might be anti-Semitic if you post incessantly about the way Israel is committing “genocide” but ignore the real democide by Assad who’s murdered 170,000+ in quelling a revolt against his regime, or the impending genocide by ISIS of the Yezidi’s in Iraq.

That’s right. There’s a real genocide under way and ISIS is behind it (shocking, I know). But it’s of what’s an obscure religious group that practices and believes in one of the oldest religions on the planet whose beliefs may have shaped the other monotheistic religions you might have heard of (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).

ISIS attacks on Kurds or Christians have gotten the bulk of the press in their rampage through Iraqi territory, but it’s the attacks on the Yezidi that are most troubling.

168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 6:06:02am

re: #160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

BTW, what would be the main inconsistencies?

I have not pondered it deeply enough to even answer that one, either.

mostly involve LHO’s oddly mixed background involving the USSR.

But it is nothing I linger on.

169 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 6:06:59am

Can “travel abroad”?

170 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 6:07:19am

Well, that’s one way to start a new job:

Police say Wagoner teacher found in empty classroom without pants

Wagoner police arrested a woman they said was intoxicated and not wearing any pants at Wagoner High School on Monday.

The woman, Lorie Hill, was a newly hired teacher for Wagoner Public Schools. She was found by two other teachers in the classroom on the first day back at school for teachers.

171 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:07:26am

re: #165 Pie-onist Overlord

Most Israelis who are Russian citizens voted for the opposition parties and candidates in various elections, so I expected either neutral or negative dynamics, since things are getting much worse…

172 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 6:07:57am

To get treatment for the chronic Dudebrofaceitis condition which is getting worse and worse.

173 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 6:08:00am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

Can “travel abroad”?

“Travel abroad” = visit Russian embassies in countries that won’t extradite him to America.

174 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:08:16am

re: #163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Both have a positive view of Russia, but both have a declining view when compared to 2013. And that’s even with many Israelis having ties to Russia.

Interesting that the US view of Russia has grown, even though the US official policy is opposed to the acts by Russia in Ukraine.

175 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:08:54am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I have not pondered it deeply enough to even answer that one, either.

mostly involve LHO’s oddly mixed background involving the USSR.

But it is nothing I linger on.

OK, at least it’s not that “magic bullet nonsense” nonsense [sic]

;)

176 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:09:49am

re: #174 lawhawk

Both have a positive view of Russia, but both have a declining view when compared to 2013. And that’s even with many Israelis having ties to Russia.

Interesting that the US view of Russia has grown, even though the US official policy is opposed to the acts by Russia in Ukraine.

You read it wrong, both think of Russia better than in 2013.

177 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:11:54am

re: #176 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You read it wrong, both think of Russia better than in 2013.

Unlike the rest of the world (except China), with the biggest drop in the US.

178 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:14:37am

re: #176 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You’re right. I read the whole thing backwards.

179 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 6:16:28am

In Russia, opinion poll take you!

180 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 6:17:10am

re: #176 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You read it wrong, both think of Russia better than in 2013.

You’d think the average Israeli would think less of a country that is lobbing rockets into a neighboring country based on some very flimsy provocations and excuses.

But this is just a set of poll numbers, and that’s not something to base a lot of suppositions around without quite a bit of further investigation.

181 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 6:19:32am

re: #173 Lidane

“Travel abroad” = visit Russian embassies in countries that won’t extradite him to America.

I hear North Korea is nice in the springtime. Maybe Snowden can play a game of Horse with Dennis Rodman.

182 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 6:20:40am

re: #181 b.d.

I hear North Korea is nice in the springtime. Maybe Snowden can play a game of Horse with Dennis Rodman.

Snowden seems more a hacky sack type.

183 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 6:21:31am

Stock up on yer popcorn, kids:

Mississippi GOP To McDaniel: Take Your Challenge To The Courts

The Mississippi Republican Party said Wednesday that it would not hear state Sen. Chris McDaniel’s (R-MS) legal challenge to incumbent U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) because state law doesn’t allow sufficient time to consider the evidence, the Jackson Clarion-Ledger reported.

State GOP Chairman Joe Nosef suggested in a letter to McDaniel attorney Mitch Tyner that the candidate move his challenge to the courts. Nosef explained that he would not be able to convene a meeting of the executive committee, citing a law that requires a petition for judicial review to be filed 10 days after a complaint reaches the state party’s executive committee.

Funniest. Shit. EVAR. All this because one raving lunatic asked some blah voters to help him beat another raving lunatic.

184 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 6:23:35am

re: #182 Timothy Watson

Snowden seems more a hacky sack type.

I don’t see Snowie as very sporty at anything, sweating due to physical exercise is probably something he hasn’t done too much of.

I bet he’d suck at Frisbee golf and that is the only sport I can picture him playing, besides croquet.

185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 6:24:42am

But really, where could Snowden go?

186 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 6:28:09am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But really, where could Snowden go?

The ballet!?!?

rt.com

187 darthstar  Aug 7, 2014 6:28:10am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But really, where could Snowden go?

As long as he’s miserable, I don’t care.

188 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:28:27am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But really, where could Snowden go?

The range of choices is pretty wide: DNR, LNR, …

189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 6:29:01am

re: #188 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The range of choices is pretty long: DNR, LNR, …

Myanmar? Somalia?

190 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 7, 2014 6:29:14am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But really, where could Snowden go?

Heh. Some would say straight to hell.

191 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 6:31:38am

re: #167 lawhawk

Yeah. I heard/ read where ISIS basically has the Yezidis rounded up and trapped on a mountain, no way in/out except through ISIS controlled territory, meaning no way to get the Yezidis any food/supplies

192 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:32:43am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He couldn’t go to any country where he faces possible extradition to the US, to that limits his movements some. But it’s interesting how the Russians are suddenly willing to allow his movement outside Russia, even though the US revoked his papers. Guess they are hoping that Snowden takes a magical mystery tour to undermine US policy along the way, and that inures benefits to Putin.

193 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 6:47:04am

Hawaii Hurricane GIF as of 3AM.

Coscto should be fun today.

194 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 6:53:23am

Now I know how people in Florida and the East Coast feel.

Glad I’m not in Hilo.

195 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 6:55:52am

re: #194 Ryan King

Now I know how people in Florida and the East Coast feel.

Glad I’m not in Hilo.

I have friends in Hilo. Hopefully they’re okay.

196 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:56:41am

Coulter is a mean and spiteful woman. These health professionals are putting themselves in harms’ way to treat infected patients, and doctors and nurses are among those hardest hit by the infection. Liberia was reporting another group of people helping treat patients were themselves infected.

We’re not talking about facilities like the pristine CDC/Emory isolation wards where each patient has their own bed and is in isolation (complete with negative pressure air handling systems and other precautions). We’re talking about hospitals that barely resemble ramshackle/makeshift facilities following natural disasters - tents where groups of patients are being treated. We’re also talking about facilities that lack air conditioning so the treating doctors have to wear confining and extremely hot and suffocating gear. Mistakes can and do happen - often with tragic results.

But we shouldn’t be blaming these health professionals. We need to learn better response and get better gear over to those who need it. Better isolation ward equipment, and backstopping the local governments that are over their heads in how to deal with the crisis, with the resulting crisis landing on NGOs to treat a steady flow of patients.

197 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 6:58:28am

re: #196 lawhawk

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Coulter is a mean and spiteful woman. These health professionals are putting themselves in harms’ way to treat infected patients, and doctors and nurses are among those hardest hit by the infection. Liberia was reporting another group of people helping treat patients were themselves infected.

We’re not talking about facilities like the pristine CDC/Emory isolation wards where each patient has their own bed and is in isolation (complete with negative pressure air handling systems and other precautions). We’re talking about hospitals that barely resemble ramshackle/makeshift facilities following natural disasters - tents where groups of patients are being treated. We’re also talking about facilities that lack air conditioning so the treating doctors have to wear confining and extremely hot and suffocating gear. Mistakes can and do happen - often with tragic results.

But we shouldn’t be blaming these health professionals. We need to learn better response and get better gear over to those who need it. Better isolation ward equipment, and backstopping the local governments that are over their heads in how to deal with the crisis, with the resulting crisis landing on NGOs to treat a steady flow of patients.

Was even too much for Twitchy. O.O

198 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 6:58:35am

re: #195 Lidane

I have friends in Hilo. Hopefully they’re okay.

Tonight is when it hits.

199 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:58:47am

re: #193 Ryan King

Local tv here in NY was showing video from Costco, though it’s hard to tell the difference between the regular traffic in/out of Costco from the surge for hurricane prep.

Seeing lines for generators or plywood at HD or Lowes might be a better indicator.

Stay safe though. These storms are no laughing matter, and the biggest threat remains storm surges, flash floods, and possible landslides due to rain soaked hillsides giving way.

200 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 6:59:26am

re: #197 Gus

You know you’ve gone too far when even Twitchy thinks you’ve gone to far.

201 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 7:00:33am

re: #197 Gus

Was even too much for Twitchy. O.O

Wow. She’s ‘lost her way?’ When was she ever not lost?

Shocking she’s even gone too far for that Twitter Cesspool called Twitchy.

202 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:02:55am

re: #199 lawhawk

Seeing lines for generators or plywood at HD or Lowes might be a better indicator

Seen those lines many-a-time around Florida, North and South Carolina especially the outer banks, and I can’t help but to think,,,,,

Why didn’t you keep the plywood you bought LAST year before the storm (or the year before ,, or the year before that , or the ,,,,,,)

203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 7:04:35am

Has anyone supported Annie? Anyone at all?

204 Bubblehead II  Aug 7, 2014 7:06:02am

re: #194 Ryan King

Now I know how people in Florida and the East Coast feel.

Glad I’m not in Hilo.

Couple of web cams for Oahu. H/T to explore.org

Turtle Bay - East and Ehukai Beach, Oahu

Sunrise isn’t for a couple more hours so there isn’t much to see. But should get interesting after daybreak.

205 Varek Raith  Aug 7, 2014 7:06:38am

How to criticize Israel without sounding like a raging anti-Semite or helping Netanyahu

Take a gander at the comments.
No wonder they need this kind of reminder.

206 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 7:07:41am

re: #202 sattv4u2

It’s a good question, but some people don’t have space to store them for the next storm, and they can’t afford storm shutters or hurricane-proof glass. And not all plywood is outdoor rated, so the one exposure is all they’d be able to take before delaminating.

207 ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2014 7:07:49am

re: #200 lawhawk

You know you’ve gone too far when even Twitchy thinks you’ve gone to far.

I keep hoping some of these conservative extremists hit the point where even their most rabid followers grow sick of them and cause them to disappear.

Is Annie now at that point?

I would like to think so, but something tells me her followers will be outraged for 5 minutes and then forget all about it when she barks out another screed they agree with.

There seems to be no bottom at the bottom.

Oh yeah…good morning. Nice cool breeze here in central Ohio…looks like real low humidity 80° day. Fantastic.

And the DNC Convention committee has left Columbus hopefully satiated and pleasantly surprised by the city and its facilities and considering bringing the 2016 Democratic Convention here. We shall see.

208 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 7:08:00am

re: #197 Gus

Was even too much for Twitchy. O.O

Will I get in trouble if I make the following comment: “Yeye conservative catfight!”?

209 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 7:08:47am

Well, El Rushbo says ‘the left will politicize Ebola just like HIV.’
re: #208 Timothy Watson

Will I get in trouble if I make the following comment: “Yeye conservative catfight!”?

Hot Wingnut on Wingnut Action

210 Varek Raith  Aug 7, 2014 7:09:20am

How does one politicize Ebola?

211 Varek Raith  Aug 7, 2014 7:09:44am

Is there some kind of pro-Ebola lobby we need to watch out for?!?

212 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 7:10:31am

re: #210 Varek Raith

How does one politicize Ebola?

Hold my beer and watch this…

213 Romantic Heretic  Aug 7, 2014 7:11:04am

re: #14 thedopefishlives

I wonder how miserable it must be, being so eaten up with hatred and evil.

It’s why I call them crackheads.

214 blueraven  Aug 7, 2014 7:12:19am

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Has anyone supported Annie? Anyone at all?

Don’t know of anyone notable, at least on this issue, but the comments at Twitchy seem to be running slightly in her favor.

215 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 7:13:05am

Rick Joyner: Mules Prove Evolution Is ‘Ridiculous’ And ‘Impossible’

He claimed that there is no evidence of an entire species evolving: “You can mix a donkey and a horse and get a mule, but mules cannot reproduce. They can only reproduce after their own kind. We have no species change.”

“Why would a whole theory, everything taught in our schools, be based on something that is something that is so outrageously not only ridiculous, it’s impossible,” he said.

SCIENCE!

216 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 7:13:47am
217 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 7:13:58am

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Has anyone supported Annie? Anyone at all?

The GOP back during the Clinton years. They loved them some Ann Coulter when she was ranting and railing for Bubba’s impeachment.

218 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:14:30am

re: #206 lawhawk

It’s a good question, but some people don’t have space to store them for the next storm, and they can’t afford storm shutters or hurricane-proof glass. And not all plywood is outdoor rated, so the one exposure is all they’d be able to take before delaminating.

When I had my cottage off the coast of Portland Maine we would board up all the windows every fall (place didn’t have heat nor ‘winter” water) We would paint the plywood every couple of years and store then boards under the front porch during the summer

219 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 7:15:21am

re: #210 Varek Raith

Pandering politicians will say anything they think people want to hear. Low-information voters are especially wanted by this. They hear Ebola and outbreak, and suddenly think it’s the most deadly disease on the planet and that they’re personally at risk.

Yet, while Ebola has a high mortality rate for those infected, the number of people infected by the disease for the entirety of the disease’s known existence - since 1976 is a fraction of the number of people who die every day from malaria.

You’d have a much better chance of getting infected by malaria than Ebola. As with Ebola, you’d have to be in the right place to get infected though. We thankfully don’t have the mosquito that is a carrier in the US. For now. That could change (and global climate change could let that happen as mosquitos carrying the disease could get transported and make permanent residence here), and if it does, we’d have a huge public health crisis on our hands here.

220 Varek Raith  Aug 7, 2014 7:15:59am

re: #216 Gus

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How nice!

I’d settle for just a kick in the shin myself. How terrible of me.
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221 Romantic Heretic  Aug 7, 2014 7:16:16am

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

Well, if that’s the case, di kele is fucked.

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Tried to read that. Too much stupidity and hate for me to stomach.

222 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:16:38am

re: #219 lawhawk

They hear Ebola and outbreak, and suddenly think it’s the most deadly disease on the planet and that they’re personally at risk.

yup

One word

SARS

Weren’t we all supposed to die that year?

iirc,, there were ,, ummm,, ZERO deaths in the USA due to SARS

223 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 7:17:04am

re: #170 Lidane

Well, that’s one way to start a new job:

Police say Wagoner teacher found in empty classroom without pants

That IS SO going in her permanent record, and will follow her for life. (Only in this case it’s actually true).

RBS

224 Varek Raith  Aug 7, 2014 7:17:34am

Ebola is one of the scariest diseases on the planet.
It’s also what keeps it from spreading too far.

225 Franklin Brewsevelt  Aug 7, 2014 7:17:37am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

I’m digging that website on the psychology of conspiracy.

Stephen King had an excellent take on the JFK assassination and the conspiracy theories that surround it, and I’m going to have to paraphrase his take from his excellent non-fiction book Danse Macabre.

The reason so many believe in a vast and complex conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy is because it’s easier for people to believe that than it is for people to believe that one nutty loser, who had never accomplished much of anything in his life, could gun down the President of the United States of America with a cheap mail-order rifle and scope while eating greasy, cold fried chicken. If such a person could blow away the most powerful man in the world, for whatever twisted reasons existed in his disturbed mind, then what chance do any of us have? The idea of a lone gunman forever altering the course of history is simply far too terrifying for many people to grasp; therefore, an elaborate conspiracy surely had to have existed, because that’s easier for people to accept than it is to grasp that a singular madman could do so much damage with one extraordinarily lucky shot.

And Mr. King, if you happen to read this, sorry for not having the exact quote to hand - I had to rely on my memory of the book. But that observation and insight ring true, at least for me.

Have you read 11/22/63 By King? Another interesting take on the JFK assassination. I won’t ruin it if you haven’t read it, but there is a good synopsis on wikipedia.

EDIT: Bonus is that it involves time travel :)

226 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 7:18:01am

re: #217 Lidane

The GOP back during the Clinton years. They loved them some Ann Coulter when she was ranting and railing for Bubba’s impeachment.

Well, I mean on this issue. Obviously she still has a lot of supporters in general.

227 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 7:18:42am

re: #222 sattv4u2


They hear Ebola and outbreak, and suddenly think it’s the most deadly disease on the planet and that they’re personally at risk.

yup

One word

SARS

Weren’t we all supposed to die that year?

iirc,, there were ,, ummm,, ZERO deaths in the USA due to SARS

Had a friend go to Canada for a trip during SARS because, for obvious reasons, everything was so cheap.

He saw a shirt for sale that read. “My friends went to Canada and all they brought me was this lousy cough”

228 makeitstop  Aug 7, 2014 7:19:02am

re: #224 Varek Raith

Ebola is one of the scariest diseases on the planet.
It’s also what keeps it from spreading too far.

Sorry for the inadvertent ding - wayward mouse. Corrected.

229 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 7:19:06am

I’ll pay someone $100 to go help my brother move in my stead.

230 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 7:19:15am

re: #225 Franklin Brewsevelt

Have you read 11/22/63 By King? Another interesting take on the JFK assassination. I won’t ruin it if you haven’t read it, but there is a good synopsis on wikipedia.

I heartily recommend it too.

231 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:20:12am

re: #229 Timothy Watson

I’ll pay someone $100 to go help my brother move in my stead.

Your brother is going to live in your stead???

232 Varek Raith  Aug 7, 2014 7:20:40am

re: #228 makeitstop

Sorry for the inadvertent ding - wayward mouse. Corrected.

That’s what she said?

233 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 7:20:59am

re: #222 sattv4u2


They hear Ebola and outbreak, and suddenly think it’s the most deadly disease on the planet and that they’re personally at risk.

yup

One word

SARS

Weren’t we all supposed to die that year?

iirc,, there were ,, ummm,, ZERO deaths in the USA due to SARS

I remember West Nile virus fearmongering in the D.C. metro region years ago. It was so absurd.

234 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 7:21:13am

re: #231 sattv4u2

Your brother is going to live in your stead???

Wouldn’t that make it his home stead?

//

235 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 7:21:23am

re: #203 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Has anyone supported Annie? Anyone at all?

There have been some postings over at Townhall that take the view that it was wrong to bring the doctors back here, but haven’t seen any even there that are that extreme. (I can only spend limited time there before I want to set myself on fire and then do a flip over a desk)

RBS

236 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 7:22:06am

re: #231 sattv4u2

Your brother is going to live in your stead???

I had a raccoon that lived in my stead for a while…

RBS

237 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 7:22:10am

re: #231 sattv4u2

Your brother is going to live in your stead???

No, the “in my stead” part was referring to helping him move.

I was hoping that I would come down with a stomach bug or something and not have to help him. :)

238 Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2014 7:22:56am

re: #225 Franklin Brewsevelt

Haven’t read it, but I’ve heard it’s quite good. I know Stephen King is definitely of the opinion that Oswald was indeed the lone assassin.

He is in the minority of overall opinion on the matter, but having looked at multiple narratives of the event myself over the years, I’ve arrived at the same conclusion; that it was the singular handiwork of a disturbed, attention-seeking individual.

I suppose Oswald wanted to go down in the history books. He certainly got his wish.

239 Timothy Watson  Aug 7, 2014 7:23:17am

re: #233 Timothy Watson

Oh, and, of course, Saddam Hussein was responsible for the few cases of virus in humans that occurred.

240 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 7:23:57am

re: #237 Timothy Watson

No, the “in my stead” part was referring to helping him move.

I was hoping that I would come down with a stomach bug or something and not have to help him. :)

you have to plan ahead for things like that… leave the egg salad sandwich out on the counter all night, then have it for breakfast.

RBS

241 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:24:16am

re: #233 Timothy Watson

I remember West Nile virus fearmongering in the D.C. metro region years ago. It was so absurd.

Yup

And on a the non medical side ,,,,,killer bees

242 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:25:29am

re: #239 Timothy Watson

Oh, and, of course, Saddam Hussein was responsible for the few cases of virus in humans that occurred.

Lead poisoning mostly!!

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243 Romantic Heretic  Aug 7, 2014 7:26:16am

re: #62 freetoken

There’s an entire class of what I’ll call “reality denial” that doesn’t make it into the official books (DSM-IV) but I think exhibit more than enough anti-social behavior or disconnect from reality to be of concern.

Holocaust denial is one of them.

One of the most important facets, and most unnoticed, facets of human psychology is that of identity. What a person replies when asked the question, “Who are you?”

In order to gain a sense of self, a sense of direction, a sense of power human beings will go to great lengths. They will join themselves to political groups, tribes, clans, nations. They will create enemies, live in constant hate and fear. They will literally give up themselves. Because anything is better than nothing.

I speak from experience as I lost my sense of identity for most of a decade. It’s not a lot of fun. Now my struggle is to keep my identity in the face of a lot of pressure to be something else.

244 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 7:27:14am

Russian Students Project Laser Show of “Obama Fellating a Banana”

But now American fruit is banned so this is non-possible.

245 Bubblehead II  Aug 7, 2014 7:27:38am

re: #233 Timothy Watson

I remember West Nile virus fearmongering in the D.C. metro region years ago. It was so absurd.

Seems like we get one of these a couple of time a year any more.

*shrugs*

Public Health Issues West Nile Virus Alert For Twin Falls County

246 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 7:27:56am

Your job, yer doin’ it wrong:

Cop: We don’t follow Constitution because Obama doesn’t

A borough police officer was caught on camera telling a resident that police don’t have to follow the Constitution because President Barack Obama doesn’t, either.

Special Police Officer Richard Recine now is the subject of an internal affairs investigation after the video was posted online and was seen by Police Director Robert Manney, who called the comments an “embarrassment.”

In the video, taken Monday at the borough municipal building, resident Steve Wronko gets into a verbal confrontation with Recine, who was called to the building because Wronko was seen taking pictures inside.

After Wronko insists he has a constitutional right to record in a public place, Recine responds.

“Obama has decimated the friggin’ constitution, so I don’t give a damn,” says Recine, a retired Franklin cop. “Because if he doesn’t follow the Constitution we don’t have to.”

Wronko then turns to the person recording the camera to make sure that was recorded. Recine repeats himself.

“Our president has decimated the constitution, then we don’t have to.”

247 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 7, 2014 7:28:16am

re: #237 Timothy Watson

No, the “in my stead” part was referring to helping him move.

I was hoping that I would come down with a stomach bug or something and not have to help him. :)

I have a bad back, which gets me out of helping people move. Of course, it didn’t help me get out of my recent move, and I paid for it the week afterward. Moving sucks.

248 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 7, 2014 7:29:56am

re: #246 Lidane

Special Police Officer Richard Recine

Yep, he’s pretty special alright.

249 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 7:37:07am

It’s the logic of 12 year olds. Point out real or perceived behavior that is bad, then do it yourself, then justify your own bad behavior because the other guy does it.

250 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 7:40:13am
251 darthstar  Aug 7, 2014 7:40:55am

re: #249 Ryan King

It’s the logic of 12 year olds. Point out real or perceived behavior that is bad, then do it yourself, then justify your own bad behavior because the other guy does it.

Are you talking about Twitter, Congress, or Israel?

252 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 7:42:17am

HURR HURR LIBRULS MADE TEH CALIFORNIA DROUGHT BY STEALING ALL TEH WATERS!!!!!!

253 darthstar  Aug 7, 2014 7:43:21am
254 A Mom Anon  Aug 7, 2014 7:46:32am

re: #202 sattv4u2

I don’t think this happens that often in Hawaii. There aren’t a lot of really big houses with lots of storage, at least on Oahu, which is where most of the population lives. If you were to keep plywood in say, a shed or garage that’s not climate controlled, it would eventually warp and be useless. I did see some homes with hurricane shutters when I was there, but I don’t think these giant storms have been a thing in Hawaii, which could explain why people don’t have this kind of stuff around the house.

255 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 7:46:48am
256 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 7:47:13am

Raving lunatic is off his meds again:

Erik Rush: If House Impeaches Obama, ‘Senate Would Be Compelled To Remove Him’

Yes, because that worked out so well for the GOP when they impeached Clinton.

257 sattv4u2  Aug 7, 2014 7:48:09am

re: #254 A Mom Anon

I was talking about the run to Lowes/ HD in places like North and South Carolina as well as Florida. ((says it right there in my comment)

258 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 7:48:11am

In a side note…. Tennessee is having a primary today, main point of interest is the Tea Party backed Joe Carr against Lamar Alexander. I suspect great wailing and gnashing of teeth when Alexander wins tonight. It seems like the TP is having a harder and harder time, in part because anybody who would be a good candidate has enough savvy to NOT get associated with TP, a real politician know that that politics is “the art of the deal”.

259 Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2014 7:52:01am

To kill this thread and give you one more thing to worry over that you can’t do anything about

Researchers surveying the Arctic Ocean’s seafloor have discovered something particularly unsettling for many climatologists. Plumes of methane, a particularly potent greenhouse gas, are rising in tiny ominous bubbles from the ocean floor. Why exactly this is happening remains unclear, but initial speculation is tying it to warning temperatures and ice melt.

Researchers from Stokholm University have recently been plowing through the Laptev Sea in the icebreaker ship Oden, closely measuring the air and water around the East Siberian Arctic Ocean.

natureworldnews.com

Game over, man.

260 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 7:52:41am

re: #258 RealityBasedSteve

They may not have gotten their candidates to beat the incumbents in the primaries, but the Tea Party has reset the GOP agenda in their favor by pushing the party to the far right. That’s a victory they’ll be happy to take, because it means even more gridlock and inability to act, which favors the TP/GOP agenda that includes chopping federal spending (and where the sequester, which was intended to get the parties to agree to cuts because it was meant to be painful, was turned into a weapon that meets the GOP agenda without further action).

It also means the GOP gets to complain about federal spending cuts on defense, even though they agreed to them as part of the sequester.

261 GunstarGreen  Aug 7, 2014 7:59:50am

Funny how right-wingers only grow a sense of morals regarding Skeletor’s (a.k.a. Ann Coulter’s) toxic vomitous when she’s directing it at fellow christians as opposed to, say, brown people or non-christian whites.

Contemptable worms, all of them.

262 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 8:00:48am

Rational America: Barack Obama turned 53 on Monday.

World Nut Daily: HOW DO WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE?!

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2014 8:03:17am
264 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2014 8:06:11am

Yesterday was lube, today:

265 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 8:09:21am

re: #262 Lidane

Rational America: Barack Obama turned 53 on Monday.

World Nut Daily: HOW DO WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE?!

LAST YEAR HE SAID HE WAS 52!!!! LIES!!!!

266 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 8:11:05am
267 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 8:11:58am

This story has been making the rounds about how MN has raised the minimum wages on restaurants. So one particular restaurant instituted a minimum wage fee on their receipts. They’re charging a flat fee of $.35 per transaction.

It’s asinine when you think about it. The restaurant claims that the minimum wage increase will cost the owner $10,000 a year. But he thinks that the solution to the issue isn’t paying his workers more, but that the state should institute a wage/tip credit.

Never mind that he could have passed on the costs to customers by raising prices across the board by a few cents. If he thinks that the wage hike will be what sends him into unprofitability, then the issue has more to do with his business practices than any minimum wage hike.

But there’s something else that doesn’t quite make sense here. He claims that he’s already paying his staff above the state’s minimum wage, so he wouldn’t be affected by the hike though that might be because he’s busy counting what his wait staff is getting in salary plus tips (IOW, he wants to count the tips against his minimum wage obligation). Sounds like there’s a whole lot of obfuscation about his methods, intentions, and what he’s really doing here. If he’s already paying them above minimum wage, then the call for the wage/tip credit would mean even more money in his pocket, and it wouldn’t be hurting his bottom line. In fact, he’s already doing well since the state hasn’t allowed a tip credit in the past (and the federal minimum wage was already higher than the state rate until the state hiked its rates beginning August 1).

268 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 8:14:15am

WTFITS:

Cliven Bundy: Divine Inspiration Has Told Me To Disarm The Feds

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy said during a radio interview on Wednesday that God has told him that the federal government needs to be disarmed.

Bundy appeared on Salt Lake City radio station KUER and elaborated on comments he made recently at a meeting of the Independent American Party in St. George, Utah.

The Salt Lake Tribune reported that Bundy said he still feels strongly about the need for sheriffs throughout the nation to take away weapons from federal law enforcement, and he said he believes God has told him as much.

269 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 8:15:54am
270 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 8:16:13am

re: #267 lawhawk

But there’s something else that doesn’t quite make sense here. He claims that he’s already paying his staff above the state’s minimum wage, so he wouldn’t be affected by the hike though that might be because he’s busy counting what his wait staff is getting in salary plus tips (IOW, he wants to count the tips against his minimum wage obligation). Sounds like there’s a whole lot of obfuscation about his methods, intentions, and what he’s really doing here. If he’s already paying them above minimum wage, then the call for the wage/tip credit would mean even more money in his pocket, and it wouldn’t be hurting his bottom line. In fact, he’s already doing well since the state hasn’t allowed a tip credit in the past (and the federal minimum wage was already higher than the state rate until the state hiked its rates beginning August 1).

The rationale is that even though the employees don’t make minimum wage, all employees need to be paid more because the floor raised: employees making more than MW would need a commensurate raise.

Of course, this is a horrible thing. Because business owners may, potentially, inconsequentially or consequentially, make a little less money (which is still a lot more than those making MW).

271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 8:16:49am

re: #267 lawhawk

The point is that is immoral to pay people more than you can get away with paying them. It is like paying more taxes than you have to.

How am I supposed to be motivated to create jobs when I don’t get to keep all the money?

272 Ryan King  Aug 7, 2014 8:18:04am

re: #269 Gus

Wait, I thought ‘the left’ was politicizing ebola? Yet the theocrats continually politicize HIV.

273 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 8:19:27am
274 HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2014 8:23:03am

re: #269 Gus

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Hey asshole, the 80’s called. They want their misinformed back.

275 Gus  Aug 7, 2014 8:24:26am

bbl

276 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 8:27:13am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yesterday was lube, today:

Tomorrow it’s bootstraps.

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2014 8:27:52am

re: #276 Feline Fearless Leader

Tomorrow it’s bootstraps.

with recipes!
bootstrap soup…mmmmmm!

278 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 8:28:27am

re: #268 Lidane

WTFITS:

Cliven Bundy: Divine Inspiration Has Told Me To Disarm The Feds

Dear Cliven,

Those voices in your head… they aren’t God speaking.

RBS

279 Bubblehead II  Aug 7, 2014 8:29:14am
280 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 8:31:01am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

with recipes!
bootstrap soup…mmmmmm!

I saw a joke somewhere that North Korean geologists have a greater ability to identify minerals via taste due to their experience while growing up with eating rock soup.

Aside: Taste is actually a way to help identify some rock/mineral types. Within reason.

281 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 8:32:08am

re: #268 Lidane

WTFITS:

Cliven Bundy: Divine Inspiration Has Told Me To Disarm The Feds

More post-hoc justification for insanity and criminal behavior.

282 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 8:32:57am

Here’s a FUCK YOU POORS meme, showing an ordering kiosk. No automatic burger machine in sight.

283 Bubblehead II  Aug 7, 2014 8:40:06am

…. oops.

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2014 8:41:42am
285 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 8:42:54am

Shorter Brownback: It’s Obama’s fault!

286 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2014 8:54:03am

re: #282 Pie-onist Overlord

What exactly is considered “unskilled” to these people? I’ve worked low wage jobs that definitely required skills to survive in.

287 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2014 8:55:13am

Also, about Glenn Greenwald:

What is with this guy? It seems he spends more time attacking people on Twitter and sharing what other people are writing than actually writing content himself.

I’m no business expert but I would think a man whose primarily role is that of a writer/columnist in a media enterprise would be primarily focused on, you know, WRITING.

288 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 8:55:27am

re: #286 Eclectic Cyborg

What exactly is considered “unskilled” to these people? I’ve worked low wage jobs that definitely required skills to survive in.

Unskilled = jobs that teh poorz have.

289 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 9:00:38am

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, about Glenn Greenwald:

What is with this guy? It seems he spends more time attacking people on Twitter and sharing what other people are writing than actually writing content himself.

I’m no business expert but I would think a man whose primarily role is that of a writer/columnist in a media enterprise would be primarily focused on, you know, WRITING.

Glenn is just a contrarian douchebag, there really is nothing deep to dig into or mysterious about it.

290 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2014 9:01:51am

re: #289 b.d.

I guess as a very passionate writer and journalism graduate myself I just get very deeply bothered and offended by the way he conducts himself.

I know he’ll never stop being a douche.

291 allegro  Aug 7, 2014 9:03:28am

re: #289 b.d.

Glenn is just a contrarian douchebag, there really is nothing deep to dig into or mysterious about it.

Speaking of contrarian douchebags, I notice there are no bottom comments. KT stopped coming around?

292 makeitstop  Aug 7, 2014 9:04:29am

Just seen on Facebook. Pass the spoon so I can gouge out my eyeballs, because now I’ve seen it all.

EDIT: Possibly NSFW, due to a totally misguided use of the ‘N’ word. Be forewarned.

Youtube Video

293 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 9:05:00am

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, about Glenn Greenwald:

What is with this guy? It seems he spends more time attacking people on Twitter and sharing what other people are writing than actually writing content himself.

I’m no business expert but I would think a man whose primarily role is that of a writer/columnist in a media enterprise would be primarily focused on, you know, WRITING.

You don’t understand, the business of Glenn is GLENN…. Everything else is simply a distraction from THE GLENN. Articles exist to draw attention to THE GLENN.

Side note… It is a known fact that the size of the respective egos make it impossible for THE GLENN and THE DONALD to ever appear in the same room together.

RBS

294 wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2014 9:06:08am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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295 Bubblehead II  Aug 7, 2014 9:07:10am
296 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 9:08:09am

re: #286 Eclectic Cyborg

What exactly is considered “unskilled” to these people? I’ve worked low wage jobs that definitely required skills to survive in.

297 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 9:09:30am

re: #286 Eclectic Cyborg

What exactly is considered “unskilled” to these people? I’ve worked low wage jobs that definitely required skills to survive in.

It’s just an excuse to not pay people who perform exhausting, physical, menial labor, what their labor is actually worth.

298 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 9:10:57am
299 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 9:12:31am

re: #298 Lidane

So Staver is a slavery&racism fan, I gather.

300 HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2014 9:13:02am

re: #298 Lidane

Legal reasoning, yer doin’ it wrong —

Staver: Same-Sex Marriage Not A Right Because Homosexuality Used To Be A Crime

So was “race mixing” shit for brains. Talk about desperate.

301 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 9:13:17am

How many laws there used to be against interracial marriage?

302 Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2014 9:14:46am
Kansas Republican 3rd Congressional District Committee vice chairman tweets: “Offending Muslims is the duty of any civilized person. Especially with a .45.”

See: Stochastic terrorism.

303 Bubblehead II  Aug 7, 2014 9:14:56am

Gov. half wit says what?

304 HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2014 9:16:04am

re: #301 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

How many laws there used to be against interracial marriage?

A lot and the ones still im existence when USSC found such bans unconstitutional were in the same places that opposition to ssm is largest today.

305 makeitstop  Aug 7, 2014 9:17:26am

re: #303 Bubblehead II

Gov. half wit says what?

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Wait, wait. Didn’t she once call Africa a country, or was that some other head-injury Republican?

(Hat tip to GoddamnedFrank for the ‘head-injury’ thing)

306 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 9:19:32am

re: #303 Bubblehead II

Well, I despise Sarah, but fair is fair. If we laughed at her because of someone’s claim that she thought Africa was a country, it’s fair if she laughs at a similar slip by Biden.

307 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 9:20:29am

re: #305 makeitstop

Santorum. But wait. There’s more:

But Santorum is in good company.

At a CNN debate in Las Vegas earlier this year, Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann seemed not to know that Libya was in Africa.

“Now with the president, he put us in Libya,” Bachmann declared. “He is now putting us in Africa. We already were stretched too thin, and he put our special operations forces in Africa.”

After the 2008 presidential election campaign, aides revealed to Fox News reporter Carl Cameron that Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin was also unaware that Africa was a continent. [emphasis mine]

She “didn’t understand that Africa was a continent, rather than a series, a country just in itself,” Cameron explained.

308 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 9:24:05am

re: #305 makeitstop

Wait, wait. Didn’t she once call Africa a country, or was that some other head-injury Republican?

(Hat tip to GoddamnedFrank for the ‘head-injury’ thing)

Biden’s gaffe, he is a smart guy, I’m pretty sure this is part of his character personna.

HEY WINGNUTS IF YOU IMPEACH OBAMA THEN YOU GET MEEEE!!!!

309 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 9:24:42am

re: #301 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Quite a few US states had those laws in place. All surviving ones were repealed by US S.Ct. ruling in Loving v. Virginia.

310 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 9:26:04am

re: #307 lawhawk

She may or may not have said that, all we have are second hand sources and information tends to be distorted along the chain of transmission.

311 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 9:26:06am

re: #308 Pie-onist Overlord

HEY WINGNUTS IF YOU IMPEACH OBAMA THEN YOU GET MEEEE!!!!

I think that’s my favorite part of the ZOMG IMPEACH OBUMMER NAO nuts. They seem to think that impeaching and removing POTUS would automatically lead to a Republican president. They don’t seem to get that they’d have to go after Biden separately.

OTOH, maybe they just want Biden in office. Who knows?

312 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 9:26:26am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky State president to share his salary with school’s lowest-paid workers - The Washington Post

How is he supposed to create jobs if he doesn’t get to keep all the moneys?

313 makeitstop  Aug 7, 2014 9:27:14am

re: #311 Lidane

I think that’s my favorite part of the ZOMG IMPEACH OBUMMER NAO nuts. They seem to think that impeaching and removing POTUS would automatically lead to a Republican president. They don’t seem to get that they’d have to go after Biden separately.

OTOH, maybe they just want Biden in office. Who knows?

They’d just swap out the lame ‘blah’ jokes for lame ‘dumb’ jokes.

314 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 9:28:15am

re: #305 makeitstop

Wait, wait. Didn’t she once call Africa a country, or was that some other head-injury Republican?

(Hat tip to GoddamnedFrank for the ‘head-injury’ thing)

One can only assume that to Michelle Bachmann, Libya was part of the Middle East and not Africa.

315 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2014 9:31:56am

The day is not starting well for Hawaii.

316 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 9:32:48am

re: #310 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fair enough. But it’s interesting that she was accused of being just as clueless about geography as she points out about VP Biden.

317 Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2014 9:33:16am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

The day is not starting well for Hawaii.

Just In: 4.2 earthquake in Hawaii. 14km WNW of Waimea t.co

My former is there will her current…..I’m biting my tongue.

318 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 7, 2014 9:33:39am

re: #316 lawhawk

Fair enough. But it’s interesting that she was accused of being just as clueless about geography as she points out about VP Biden.

But she points this out exactly because she was accused of it ;)

319 Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2014 9:34:30am
320 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 9:41:21am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

The day is not starting well for Hawaii.

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Earthquakes, Hurricanes, Volcanoes, Vog. For once I’m glad I’m in Texas.

321 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2014 9:45:06am
322 Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2014 9:47:50am
323 Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2014 9:50:30am

I led #tcot starting in 2000? That would be quite a trick since LGF and Twitter didn’t even exist in 2000.

324 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 9:50:48am

re: #296 Pie-onist Overlord

Related:

Restaurant Charging ‘Minimum Wage Fee’ Due To Minnesota Wage Hike

A restaurant in Stillwater, Minn. has started charging patrons a 35 cent “minimum wage fee” now that the state has raised the minimum wage, according to the Star Tribune.

The wage jumped from $7.25 to $8 an hour on Aug. 1, and Oasis Cafe owner Craig Beemer said he needs the fee to offset the wage increase.

Beemer told the Start Tribune that it will cost him an extra $10,000 per year to pay his six servers a higher wage.

Some customers were upset by the fee, and few started organizing a boycott of the restaurant on Facebook.

325 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 7, 2014 9:50:54am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

I led #tcot starting in 2000? That would be quite a trick since LGF and Twitter didn’t even exist in 2000.

Back to the Future?

326 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 9:51:44am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

I led #tcot starting in 2000? That would be quite a trick since LGF and Twitter didn’t even exist in 2000.

It’s even more hilarious since your public break with the right came in 2009.

327 Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2014 9:53:52am
328 Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2014 9:54:23am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

I led #tcot starting in 2000? That would be quite a trick since LGF and Twitter didn’t even exist in 2000.

Charles Johnson, aka, Marty McFly

329 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 9:55:45am

re: #325 Iwouldprefernotto

Back to the Future?

Hot Tub Time Machine.

330 Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2014 9:56:40am

re: #324 Lidane

Related:

Restaurant Charging ‘Minimum Wage Fee’ Due To Minnesota Wage Hike

I have no problem paying a bit more to offset any possible impact on the business to cover health care and wages of the employees….but, fuck this asshole if he’s going to be a dick about it. Boycott him.

331 Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2014 9:57:43am

re: #329 Lidane

Hot Tub Time Machine.

Nah, Charles is really a Time Lord.

//

332 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 9:58:55am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

I led #tcot starting in 2000? That would be quite a trick since LGF and Twitter didn’t even exist in 2000.

You were ahead of your time.

//

Myself, I have keeping my conversations under 140 characters for many decades now.

333 allegro  Aug 7, 2014 10:01:42am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

I have no problem paying a bit more to offset any possible impact on the business to cover health care and wages of the employes….but, fuck this asshole if he’s going to be a dick about it. Boycott him.

Seriously. You know he’s gotta be an ass to work for, too if this is how little he respects the employees who put that money in his pocket with their labor.

334 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 10:03:19am

I got a shout-out from Pandagon today.

335 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 7, 2014 10:05:41am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

I have no problem paying a bit more to offset any possible impact on the business to cover health care and wages of the employees….but, fuck this asshole if he’s going to be a dick about it. Boycott him.

How is he suppose to be motivated to create the jobs if he does not get to keep all the moneyz?

336 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 10:06:44am

re: #322 Charles Johnson

There’s a crazy amount of anti-Semitism in the world, and every time Israel engages in some kind of military action (or just defends itself from attack) it gets worse. There are constant threats of attacks on Jews in France and Germany, and there are regular reports of anti-Semitism even in the US.

Then again, look at what some people think is valid anti-Israel criticism, and you see rabid anti-Semitism such as cartoons that depict Jews with hook noses or disfigured, or are engaging in blood libels, or both.

337 piratedan  Aug 7, 2014 10:08:52am

I guess what I don’t understand is that while Charles may have been in the other camp for quite some time, he’s changed, he’s been consistent post that change and yet for the reasons unknown, that still isn’t good enough because of reasons. Isn’t it enough that you’ve changed, been public about it, haven’t hidden your past and joined the modestly sane?

I would much rather have an honest convert than a hypocritical ally….

338 Kragar  Aug 7, 2014 10:09:19am
339 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 10:10:19am

re: #337 piratedan

I guess what I don’t understand is that while Charles may have been in the other camp for quite some time, he’s changed, he’s been consistent post that change and yet for the reasons unknown, that still isn’t good enough because of reasons. Isn’t it enough that you’ve changed, been public about it, haven’t hidden your past and joined the modestly sane?

I would much rather have an honest convert than a hypocritical ally….

NOBODY IS EVER ALLOWED TO CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT ANYTHING EVER.
NOBODY IS EVER ALLOWED TO CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT ANYTHING EVER. EXCEPT GLENN.

340 gwangung  Aug 7, 2014 10:11:03am

re: #337 piratedan

I guess what I don’t understand is that while Charles may have been in the other camp for quite some time, he’s changed, he’s been consistent post that change and yet for the reasons unknown, that still isn’t good enough because of reasons. Isn’t it enough that you’ve changed, been public about it, haven’t hidden your past and joined the modestly sane?

I would much rather have an honest convert than a hypocritical ally….

Binary world view—-you are one thing and you are that one thing forever.

That’s what makes them think that once you say you’re a Christian, you get a free pass forever. (No, it doesn’t work that way…)

341 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 10:12:46am

re: #327 Charles Johnson

So, that’s what one hand tweeting looks like…

342 piratedan  Aug 7, 2014 10:14:33am

re: #340 gwangung

I hear ya, just wish that context was more widely accepted these days, everything is broken down to simplistic tweets that becomes more like dogs barking in the neighborhood rather than conversation.

343 Kragar  Aug 7, 2014 10:16:57am
344 Lidane  Aug 7, 2014 10:17:07am

Michele Bachmann Wants To Impeach Obama, Then Calls Impeachment A Democratic Plot

What our president has done is commit impeachable offenses. He has committed them in terms of his lawless acts, he has failed to execute the laws. He said that he would not uphold the Defense of Marriage Act, which is a constitutionally passed law, he said he would not uphold that, as did his attorney general Eric Holder. That, as well as the President changing law like Obamacare, he writes with a press conference or with a Tweet or a Facebook or an announcement of one of his underlings, and then orders the executive branch to carry out his words rather than the law. That rises to the level of an impeachable offense.

But Obama is the one egging the GOP on to impeach him, don’tcha know.

345 Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2014 10:18:53am

re: #344 Lidane

Michele Bachmann Wants To Impeach Obama, Then Calls Impeachment A Democratic Plot

But Obama is the one egging the GOP on to impeach him, don’tcha know.

All I gotta say is, if Obama really is the one baiting them on, then they’ve only go themselves to blame for taking it.

346 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 10:18:57am

My brother was off doing field work sans Internet access for most of a week. Came home and found that his chicken flock has disappeared. (No details on cause yet.)

He also sent a picture.

347 gwangung  Aug 7, 2014 10:20:51am

re: #346 Feline Fearless Leader

My brother was off doing field work sans Internet access for most of a week. Came home and found that his chicken flock has disappeared. (No details on cause yet.)

He also sent a picture.

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What?

No strange, mysterious lights in the sky around his place?

348 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 10:22:39am

Pick a side and defend it til your death, this is the internet.

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349 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 7, 2014 10:24:03am

HURR HURR YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT CONTRADICT A A COMMENT YOU MADE IN 2006, THAT I BOOKMARKED!!!! YOUR A LIAR!!!!!!

350 Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2014 10:24:16am

re: #348 b.d.

Pick a side and defend it til your death, this is the internet.

//

Two men enter, one man leaves!

//

351 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 10:24:32am

re: #347 gwangung

What?

No strange, mysterious lights in the sky around his place?

My bet is going to be the animal sitter not properly locking up the coop on one night, and the nighttime predators having a go at them.

352 De Kolta Chair  Aug 7, 2014 10:27:55am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yesterday was lube, today:

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“Shoes for industry!” — Firesign Theatre

353 wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2014 10:31:59am

re: #346 Feline Fearless Leader

My brother was off doing field work sans Internet access for most of a week. Came home and found that his chicken flock has disappeared. (No details on cause yet.)

He also sent a picture.

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There’s a kitteh going to jump in that horsie’s nose.

354 Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2014 10:34:38am

re: #346 Feline Fearless Leader

He also sent a picture.

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Is your brother really short or is that horse really tall?

355 Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2014 10:34:51am

re: #212 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Hold my beer and watch this…

Ha! The clarion call of drunk uncles everywhere.

356 lawhawk  Aug 7, 2014 10:35:11am

This is a blast from the past:

Investigators came across multiple containers of cremated remains in a Delaware funeral home. They date from the 1970s to 1990s and include 9 victims of the Jonestown suicide/slaughter.

357 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 7, 2014 10:45:46am

re: #344 Lidane

Michele Bachmann Wants To Impeach Obama, Then Calls Impeachment A Democratic Plot

But Obama is the one egging the GOP on to impeach him, don’tcha know.

Maybe Bachmann is actually a deep plant Democratic operative, placed undercover many many years ago, so that at the appropriate time she could be activated to make the GOP look stupid. It’s just a good of an explanation as anything else.

RBS

358 b.d.  Aug 7, 2014 10:46:27am

re: #349 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT CONTRADICT A A COMMENT YOU MADE IN 2006, THAT I BOOKMARKED!!!! YOUR A LIAR!!!!!!

Don’t make me blockquote you man!

359 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 7, 2014 10:52:20am

re: #354 Dr. Matt

Is your brother really short or is that horse really tall?

The latter. My brother is about 5’ 10”. The horse is a Clydesdale named “Sage”.


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