1 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 1:11:31pm

Wait, I thought he was supposed to be playing golf.
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2 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 1:12:56pm
3 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 1:13:24pm

I CAN’T BELIEVE OBAMA WON’T INTERRUPT HIS VACATION TO ADDRESS THIS!!

OBAMA NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF THIS!!

4 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 1:13:42pm
Live from the Brady Press Briefing Room.

I wonder how fast the next wingnut president will change that name.

5 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:14:25pm

Meanwhile in Russia…

6 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 1:15:00pm
7 makeitstop  Aug 18, 2014 1:15:14pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

I wonder how fast the next wingnut president will change that name.

The Breitbart Briefing Room. (retch)

8 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 1:15:52pm
9 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 1:16:18pm

re: #7 makeitstop

The Breitbart Briefing Room. (retch)

The Rush Limbaugh chapel of Truth (TM).

10 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 1:16:20pm

re: #8 Kragar

Science!

11 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 1:16:44pm

re: #1 Kragar

Wait, I thought he was supposed to be playing golf.
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Now he’s playing cards.

RACE CARDS

12 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:17:03pm

re: #7 makeitstop

The Breitbart Briefing Room. (retch)

Let’s compromise (as Dems are wont to): the Press Briefing Room will remain Brady’s, but there will be the Breitbart Press Bathroom.

13 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 1:17:26pm
14 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 1:17:32pm

re: #8 Kragar

Bryan Fischer is an authentic miracle. He always has his head up his ass and hasn’t suffocated.

15 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 1:18:08pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

Spiracles in the side of his body.

16 lawhawk  Aug 18, 2014 1:18:38pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Bat Puchanan still up to his old tricks?

17 GeneJockey  Aug 18, 2014 1:19:00pm

re: #14 EPR-radar

Bryan Fischer is an authentic miracle. He always has his head up his ass and hasn’t suffocated.

Like a backwards Ouroboros.

18 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 1:19:45pm

One hopes that this upcoming event includes some direct measures aimed at Ferguson PD and other local authorities. Minimally they need to be taken off the murder case for doing more harm than good.

19 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 1:20:00pm

Ferguson? Iraq? How do we tell which is which?

20 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 1:20:13pm
21 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 1:20:39pm

re: #17 GeneJockey

Like a backwards Ouroboros.

Indeed. Coprophagia will prevent Fischer from starving, so no explanation is needed for that part of the story.

22 teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2014 1:21:27pm

Still a constant in this horrible mess: Michael Brown is still the only reported fatality since Michael Brown was murdered by Darren Wilson.

23 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:21:37pm

re: #16 lawhawk

Bat Puchanan still up to his old tricks?

Same racist, different day.

24 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 1:21:39pm

Oops, forgot.

25 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:22:23pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

OK, you just gave me an idea for Human Centipede IV.

26 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 1:22:30pm
27 GeneJockey  Aug 18, 2014 1:23:32pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Yeah, just look at the horrific wave of violent crime now overtaking Washington and Colorado.
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28 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 1:23:59pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Once people are addled enough to sincerely believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, they’ll believe anything.

That’s why pushing young earth creationism has become a core part of movement conservatism.

29 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 1:24:02pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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REEFER MADNESS!!1!!!!

30 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:24:21pm

re: #27 GeneJockey

Yeah, just look at the horrific wave of violent crime now overtaking Washington and Colorado.
//

Well, yeah…but how many of them are blah people?? Hmm? Hmm? Hmm?

31 teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2014 1:24:48pm

re: #27 GeneJockey

Yeah, just look at the horrific wave of violent crime now overtaking Washington and Colorado.
//

There was 547 marijuana pot drugs related stabbings in Denver City and County just this morning!

32 Bulworth  Aug 18, 2014 1:24:52pm

re:
#3

Why is he always campaigning??!?!?!??!!?11

33 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 1:25:02pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Right wing blogs turn to other right wing blogs to achieve that effect.

34 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 1:25:03pm

When the New Black Panthers look less intimidating and scary than the cops, you know there’s something wrong.

35 Targetpractice  Aug 18, 2014 1:25:26pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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They figured that out right around the time that the Sanford PD’s toxicology of Trayvon Martin came back with THC in his blood. Didn’t matter that it wasn’t enough to legally impair him, it gave him superhuman strength and aggression.

36 Kid A  Aug 18, 2014 1:25:26pm
37 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:25:31pm

re: #29 Shvaughn

REEFER MADNESS!!1!!!!

Video

38 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 1:26:14pm

Press conference starting now….

39 allegro  Aug 18, 2014 1:26:30pm

re: #8 Kragar

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It appears that someone did indeed go berserk that day. He’s the one who walked away and then split town.

40 Bulworth  Aug 18, 2014 1:26:32pm

re:
#34

The New Black Panther Party is taking over Missouri!!!!!111

41 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:27:09pm

re: #34 Shvaughn

Frankly, some of these guys look like they need to eat more :D

42 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 1:27:14pm
43 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 1:27:17pm
44 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 1:27:27pm

Since I can’t watch the presser at work, BRB. Imma try to do what they pay me to do for a bit.

45 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 1:28:17pm

Just looking at these bowel blockers infuriates me. I despise the Villager “Press” Corpse.

46 klys  Aug 18, 2014 1:28:56pm

Nice to hear that the Mosul Dam has been retaken, since I haven’t been following too closely.

47 PT Barnum  Aug 18, 2014 1:32:33pm

What’s isil?

48 ipsos  Aug 18, 2014 1:32:57pm

re: #9 EPR-radar

The Rush Limbaugh chapel of Truth (TM).

The Jeff Gannon Palace of Pleasure.

49 Jenner7  Aug 18, 2014 1:33:17pm

re: #47 PT Barnum

Another name for ISIS.

50 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 1:33:26pm

re: #47 PT Barnum

What’s isil?

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

51 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:33:40pm

re: #47 PT Barnum

What’s isil?

AKA ISIS the al Qaeda offshoot that took over a swath of Iraq and Syria

52 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 1:34:57pm
53 PT Barnum  Aug 18, 2014 1:35:12pm

Hadn’t heard them referred to that way before.

54 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 1:35:34pm

General Holder going to Ferguson Wednesday

55 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 1:36:17pm

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

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Sure looks like a busy main street where blocking traffic by walking on it could cause problems.

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56 PT Barnum  Aug 18, 2014 1:36:31pm

re: #52 Kragar

Jesus! That is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard.

57 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:36:38pm

re: #52 Kragar

58 Jenner7  Aug 18, 2014 1:36:41pm

re: #52 Kragar

Priorities.

59 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:37:40pm

re: #53 PT Barnum

Hadn’t heard them referred to that way before.

That’s their first name, basically.

60 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 18, 2014 1:37:47pm

re: #52 Kragar

That’s a rather roundabout way of saying “I got nuthin.”

61 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:37:57pm

re: #58 Jenner7

Priorities.

This goes back to righties bitching about him not wearing a jacket in the oval office. It’s the nitpick, nitpick, nitpicks from the nitwit, nitwit, nitwits.

62 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 1:38:28pm
63 allegro  Aug 18, 2014 1:39:18pm

re: #52 Kragar

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Because every black man needs a noose around his neck. Silk is the classier one.

64 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:39:20pm

I have to say, as a completely law abiding citizen, reading comments over at PoliceOne scares the living shit out of me.

Seriously, this is the place righties should be reading to find the fear they long for in everything else.

65 Schadenboner  Aug 18, 2014 1:40:17pm

re: #56 PT Barnum

Jesus! That is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard.

Risky thing to say. The universe takes it as a challenge.

66 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 1:40:50pm
67 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 1:41:10pm

re: #52 Kragar

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Sure, Emily.

economist.com

In a contrite address to the nation, President George Bush has promised to spend “unprecedented” amounts of federal money on housing, education and job creation for victims of Hurricane Katrina. With the president’s poll ratings lower than ever and his political capital depleted, his second-term priorities are in peril

No tie ERMAHGERD!

68 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 1:42:55pm

re: #52 Kragar

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No tie Reagan was different!!!!

69 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:43:19pm

re: #67 GlutenFreeJesus

Doesn’t matter. Bush was neither a democrat nor was he black. Both matter to these folks.

70 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:43:20pm

re: #67 GlutenFreeJesus

Ermahgerd is about right. We need more whargharbl too.

71 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 1:44:27pm

re: #43 Gus

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Oh, she’s unbiased!

72 PT Barnum  Aug 18, 2014 1:45:46pm

re: #65 Schadenboner

I just got into a Facebook racist (though she didn’t recognize it) who said if those people would just obey the law they wouldn’t be in trouble. I replied that it was one of the most tone deaf posts I’d seen so far. At which point the butt hurt proceeded to Flow.l

73 Varek Raith  Aug 18, 2014 1:45:49pm

re: #8 Kragar

Pretty damn sure pot doesn’t work that way.

74 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 1:46:01pm

Ann Compton is retiring because Obama hugged her grandchild?

75 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:46:52pm

re: #43 Gus

‘Nuff Said

Nice porn lite outfit, too.

76 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 1:46:55pm
77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 1:47:04pm

re: #74 wrenchwench

Ann Compton is retiring because Obama hugged her grandchild?

See the violence inherent in the system!!11!!

:D

78 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 1:47:06pm

President explaining civics basics to the press.

79 Varek Raith  Aug 18, 2014 1:47:16pm

re: #34 Shvaughn

When the New Black Panthers look less intimidating and scary than the cops, you know there’s something wrong.

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Lol, they look goofy.

80 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 1:47:51pm

This isn’t going to help…

81 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 1:48:00pm

re: #43 Gus

Man, that Facebook page is just chock full of extreme right wing links and crazy shit.

82 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 1:48:05pm

When the juvenile is deceased & we want to smear his reputation

83 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:48:09pm

Freaking CNN.

Somebody gets on a radio talk show and CNN treats it like expert testimony. WTF? It’s third hand at best. ‘Cause “Josie” says so. Josie says Michael Brown was all defiant and charged the cop.

84 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 1:48:10pm

re: #75 Joanne

‘Nuff Said

Nice porn lite outfit, too.

Look at this one

facebook.com

85 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 1:48:12pm

re: #43 Gus

Nice profile pic. Jesus, these people are terrible.

86 Jenner7  Aug 18, 2014 1:48:51pm

re: #72 PT Barnum

Reminds me of a FB post on my news feed that said The Civil War erupted over states’s rights, not slavery.

Doh!

87 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 1:49:22pm

OH LOOK HE HAS NO FACTS SO HE’S JUST MAKING SHIT UP
YOU SAID BEFORE IT WAS FOR “2ND DEGREE MURDER”

88 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:49:46pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

Look at this one

facebook.com

I saw that one. I was more moved by her love of Rush, because that is telling to the Nth degree.

89 PT Barnum  Aug 18, 2014 1:50:21pm

re: #86 Jenner7

Worst part when she started imagining Micheal Brown walking down the street all cocky. I almost asked her if he’d been shot because he was uppity.

90 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 1:50:24pm

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

Who cares what his juvie arrest was for? It has no bearing on the fact that he got executed by a cop in broad daylight.

91 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 1:51:07pm

re: #87 Pie-onist Overlord

OH LOOK HE HAS NO FACTS SO HE’S JUST MAKING SHIT UP

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We don’t know but it’s safe to assume murder!

92 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 1:51:35pm

Some “liberals” are being even harder on Obama than the idiots on the right. I don’t know what it is that they expect from him.

93 Kid A  Aug 18, 2014 1:51:47pm

Remember how outraged the wingnuts were when Bush 41 ordered his DoJ to investigate civil rights violations of Rodney King and said the cops “did not deserve to wear the uniform of the LAPD.”?
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94 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 1:51:55pm

re: #90 Lidane

Who cares what his juvie arrest was for? It has no bearing on the fact that he got executed by a cop in broad daylight.

Yeah, pretty sure the cop didn’t know about this supposed record when he shot him.

95 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:52:01pm

re: #83 Rightwingconspirator

Freaking CNN.

Somebody gets on a radio talk show and CNN treats it like expert testimony. WTF? It’s third hand at best. ‘Cause “Josie” says so. Josie says Michael Brown was all defiant and charged the cop.

Yup. That would be when I turned off CNN for good. That the bimbette host was talking this up like it was the word of god when it was nothing but hearsay (and based on what she said in the interview, read-repeat (not hear say, because it was communicated via Facebook, not in real conversation, unless she’s changed her story) made me sick

96 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 1:53:14pm

People need to stop paying attention to Chuck C. Johnson. He’s only doing this to hype himself, and it couldn’t be more obvious. He’s a boring ego-driven clown.

97 PT Barnum  Aug 18, 2014 1:54:28pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

You could have left off boring and ego driven and saved time.

98 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 1:54:28pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

People need to stop paying attention to Chuck C. Johnson. He’s only doing this to hype himself, and it couldn’t be more obvious. He’s a boring ego-driven clown.

THIS.

99 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 1:54:31pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

People need to stop paying attention to Chuck C. Johnson. He’s only doing this to hype himself, and it couldn’t be more obvious. He’s a boring ego-driven clown.

He’s serving the purpose to get that word out. People who were interviewed in St. Louis (in the good hoods) already stated as a FACT that Brown had an arrest history when, in fact, he did not.

The purpose is to get it into the public domain. And he is doing just that.

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 1:54:59pm

re: #82 Pie-onist Overlord

When the juvenile is deceased & we want to smear his reputation

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Have to be an actual “pro” before you start giving out “ProTips”, Chuckles.

101 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 1:56:58pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

People need to stop paying attention to Chuck C. Johnson. He’s only doing this to hype himself, and it couldn’t be more obvious. He’s a boring ego-driven clown.

Can’t we just play with him until they throw him in jail?

102 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 1:57:51pm

re: #92 Minor_L

Some “liberals” are being even harder on Obama than the idiots on the right. I don’t know what it is that they expect from him.

Martin Luther King Jr. got a lot of criticism from the left too. His approach was compared to that of Malcolm X, and found wanting.

103 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 1:57:54pm

re: #82 Pie-onist Overlord

104 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 1:58:47pm

BTW, unless they extended it that NOTAM was to expire today. Will the media be able to fly over?

105 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 1:58:52pm

re: #95 Joanne

Yup. That would be when I turned off CNN for good. That the bimbette host was talking this up like it was the word of god when it was nothing but hearsay (and based on what she said in the interview, read-repeat (not hear say, because it was communicated via Facebook, not in real conversation, unless she’s changed her story) made me sick

I turned them off for good back when they first hired Erick son of Erick and never looked back. My blood pressure thanked me for it.

106 Schadenboner  Aug 18, 2014 1:59:00pm

re: #103 Kragar

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This.

Also, if it were impeachful of character it would have been leaked already.

107 klys  Aug 18, 2014 1:59:10pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

Martin Luther King Jr. got a lot of criticism from the left too. His approach was compared to that of Malcolm X, and found wanting.

Had a friend complain that he mentioned 9/11 in the discussion of how the police militarization buildup happened and that she shut off the feed at that point.

…I’m sorry a review of the historical facts disturbs people? There’s some serious disconnect from reality in what people want him to do and what is realistic.

108 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 2:02:04pm

re: #105 BeachDem

I turned them off for good back when they first hired Erick son of Erick and never looked back. My blood pressure thanked me for it.

I think hubby had it on this morning because it was covering Ferguson while Morning Joke can only be tolerated for so long. I just left it. I can’t deal with the morning crowd (including Todd) whom I find ridiculous for the most part.

109 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:03:26pm

re: #107 klys

Had a friend complain that he mentioned 9/11 in the discussion of how the police militarization buildup happened and that she shut off the feed at that point.

…I’m sorry a review of the historical facts disturbs people? There’s some serious disconnect from reality in what people want him to do and what is realistic.

Also, wasn’t he criticizing that militarization? Was he supposed to do it without any background?

110 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 2:04:07pm

My brother was just inducted as a member of the Online Film Critics Society ofcs.org

111 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 2:04:43pm

re: #72 PT Barnum

I just got into a Facebook racist (though she didn’t recognize it) who said if those people would just obey the law they wouldn’t be in trouble. I replied that it was one of the most tone deaf posts I’d seen so far. At which point the butt hurt proceeded to Flow.l

So speeding… going 1 mph over the speed limit… that’s illegal. And gives full authority to the cops to shoot you in the head. Damn. I better back off my gas pedal then.

112 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:04:46pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

Also, wasn’t he criticizing that militarization? Was he supposed to do it without any background?

Yeah, but she shut it off the moment he mentioned 9/11 because apparently mentioning that was …I don’t even know.

She’s also RTed Anonymous on this issue, so…

113 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:06:27pm

re: #112 klys

Yeah, but she shut it off the moment he mentioned 9/11 because apparently mentioning that was …I don’t even know.

She’s also RTed Anonymous on this issue, so…

Blocked (if on any feed of mine…)

114 lostlakehiker  Aug 18, 2014 2:06:54pm

re: #86 Jenner7

Reminds me of a FB post on my news feed that said The Civil War erupted over states’s rights, not slavery.

Doh!

James McPherson has an excellent history of the civil war. Chapter titles include “the revolution of 1860” and “the counterrevolution of 1861”. Voting on secession, county by county, showed that the correlation between percentage of slaves in the county, and the vote, was sky high. Places such as Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, and Delaware, all with legal slavery in 1860 but very little of it in reality, stayed with the union. Eastern TN and Western VA voted against secession (Appalachia, poor whites and hardly any slaves), and WV seceded from the secession and came back into the union.

The war was about slavery. Period.

115 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 2:06:56pm

re: #111 GlutenFreeJesus

So speeding… going 1 mph over the speed limit… that’s illegal. And gives full authority to the cops to shoot you in the head. Damn. I better back off my gas pedal then.

All the people on the right are ok with it until it happens to someone they know and love. Then, and only then (if even then!), can they feel empathy because it’s personal.

116 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:07:36pm

re: #113 wrenchwench

Blocked (if on any feed of mine…)

It’s someone I know from real life, so… I am just disengaged on this. I pushed back on the Anonymous bit and didn’t really get anywhere, and decided it’s not worth it.

117 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 2:08:13pm

re: #114 lostlakehiker

The war was about slavery. Period.

No, no…it was a war of northern aggression! //

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 2:08:56pm

re: #117 Joanne

No, no…it was a war of northern aggression! //

No, no! It’s “That Recent Unpleasantness”.

119 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:09:08pm

re: #116 klys

It’s someone I know from real life, so… I am just disengaged on this. I pushed back on the Anonymous bit and didn’t really get anywhere, and decided it’s not worth it.

Hell, I block family. Haven’t had to actually block them, because they’re giving me the silent treatment. Works either way. : )

120 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 2:09:34pm
121 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 2:09:52pm

re: #120 Kragar

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Right on cue. Douchecanoe.

122 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:10:08pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

Hell, I block family. Haven’t had to actually block them, because they’re giving me the silent treatment. Works either way. : )

Haha, on Facebook I make extensive use of the lists functionality. Oh man, do I make use of that.

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 2:10:09pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, no! It’s “That Recent Unpleasantness”.

Growing up, I actually heard little old southern belles call it that.

124 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 2:10:12pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

I feel like people think that the mere fact that Obama is black means that he has to single handedly solve all race issues, as well as being politically inexpedient. He probably said what any other sitting president would say, but there are all these expectations of him out there that have nothing to do with who he actually is.

125 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 2:11:05pm

re: #120 Kragar

How do Todd Starnes, Dim Hoft, and Bryan Fischer manage to get through the day without hurting themselves?

126 Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2014 2:11:46pm

C C Johnson wants to be James O’Keeffe when he grows up, but he’ll never pass the integrity test.

127 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 2:11:48pm

Twitter going bonkers bonkers. Again, again.

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 2:12:27pm

re: #125 Lidane

How do Todd Starnes, Dim Hoft, and Bryan Fischer manage to get through the day without hurting themselves?

They’re obviously smoking too much weed and don’t have enough quality munchies on hand to counteract the violence response of the former…

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129 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 2:13:29pm

re: #127 Gus

Twitter going bonkers bonkers. Again, again.

At this point, it’s more a question of when ISN’T Twitter going bonkers.

130 HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2014 2:13:32pm

re: #120 Kragar

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Give that man a tinfoil hat.

131 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:13:35pm

re: #124 Minor_L

I feel like people think that the mere fact that Obama is black means that he has to single handedly solve all race issues, as well as being politically inexpedient. He probably said what any other sitting president would say, but there are all these expectations of him out there that have nothing to do with who he actually is.


Nelly B
(also a lizard) is retweeting criticisms and defenses of Obama. You’re right, the expectations are even higher than the hopes Obama ran on.

132 abolitionist  Aug 18, 2014 2:14:43pm

re: #83 Rightwingconspirator

Freaking CNN.

Somebody gets on a radio talk show and CNN treats it like expert testimony. WTF? It’s third hand at best. ‘Cause “Josie” says so. Josie says Michael Brown was all defiant and charged the cop.

Not so off-topic: The futuristic sci-fi show Defiance was initially cancelled (I believe) at the end of its 1st season, but was later renewed. I’m a little slow to appreciate that it’s mostly about St Louis, law enforcement and governance.

133 Mattand  Aug 18, 2014 2:14:58pm

You know, if I were a reporter on the White House beat and got to ask the President a question, it’d be along the lines of:

“Mr. President, would you care to comment on the documented evidence that reporters are being harassed and in some case threatened with death by armed police in Ferguson? Does it bother you that this clear violation of the 1st Amendment is being tolerated by Gov. Nixon?”

And, yeah, I’ll say it: Obama’s going full MBF every time he talks about Fegurson.

134 Dr. Matt  Aug 18, 2014 2:15:38pm

135 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 2:16:27pm

re: #120 Kragar

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So the President goes from ignoring this whole mess while playing golf, to orchestrating the whole damn thing. That’s so awesome!

136 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 2:16:31pm
137 The War TARDIS  Aug 18, 2014 2:17:10pm

re: #108 Joanne

I would like to remind everyone that Scarborough had a dead intern found in his office.

138 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:18:01pm
139 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:19:21pm

Unfortunate news: an 8 year old fell to her death in Yellowstone yesterday.

140 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:24:04pm

re: #139 klys

That’s very sad. Some of the trails in the park are quite narrow and it’s a long way down.

Son’s foot

141 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:25:26pm

re: #140 jaunte

That’s very sad. Some of the trails in the park are quite narrow and it’s a long way down.

Son’s foot

Yeah, what I’ve heard is that it was on Uncle Tom’s trail, heading down to the brink overlooking the Lower Falls. She also went off-trail.

Since I am fucking terrified of heights, I don’t hike in the park unless I have a pretty good idea of what I am getting myself into. After that one time.

142 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 2:25:45pm
143 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:25:57pm

Oops, wrong canyon.

144 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:26:20pm

re: #143 jaunte

Oops, wrong canyon.

Haha, they are both Grand, it’s true.

145 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 2:27:10pm

re: #131 wrenchwench

Thanks.

I feel bad for the African-Americans who feel let down. I really do. I can understand their expectations.

The white people who are bitching at him for being a coward, on the other hand… I don’t know what to think about them.

146 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:27:11pm

re: #142 Gus

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This would be the tenth of a dozen cities with National Guard in ‘em.

147 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:27:13pm

re: #144 klys

I have pics of my son on the brink of various disasters, but they’re scattered on different computers.

148 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:27:21pm

Friend just RTed this. I just. Really?

Why are so many people just sans critical thinking?

149 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:28:10pm

re: #147 jaunte

I have pics of my son on the brink of various disasters, but they’re scattered on different computers.

I am pretty sure if I ever try to go down into the Grand Canyon, it will be via helicopter or mule. So I can keep my eyes closed the whole damn time.

150 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 2:28:11pm

re: #141 klys

Yeah, what I’ve heard is that it was on Uncle Tom’s trail, heading down to the brink overlooking the Lower Falls. She also went off-trail.

Since I am fucking terrified of heights, I don’t hike in the park unless I have a pretty good idea of what I am getting myself into. After that one time.

The one time I went to the Grand Canyon I had a choice — take the guided tour to the bottom of the canyon on the back of a mule or an aerial view of the canyon from a helicopter. I chose the copter. It was over faster and I could go hit the gift shops and food.

151 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:28:32pm

re: #145 Minor_L

Thanks.

I feel bad for the African-Americans who feel let down. I really do. I can understand their expectations.

The white people who are bitching at him for being a coward, on the other hand… I don’t know what to think about them.

Think of them — the same way.

152 Patricia Kayden  Aug 18, 2014 2:28:56pm

re: #8 Kragar

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Lying for Jesus again, are we Bryan?

153 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 2:29:13pm
154 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 2:29:23pm

re: #139 klys

Unfortunate news: an 8 year old fell to her death in Yellowstone yesterday.

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That’s how I got my old rescue cat-Her loving human took a fall and died there. D_L and I like to hike but we have learned to be darn careful. You can take a bad fall in place much less distant or famous. Eight seems kinda young for a really dangerous trail.,

155 Patricia Kayden  Aug 18, 2014 2:29:34pm

re: #148 klys

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Friend just RTed this. I just. Really?

Why are so many people just sans critical thinking?

Because President Obama is the Ultimate Magical Negro, doncha know?

156 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:29:58pm

re: #154 Rightwingconspirator

That’s how I got my old rescue cat-Her loving human took a fall and died there. D_L and I like to hike but we have learned to be darn careful. You can take a bad fall in place much less distant or famous. Eight seems kinda young for a really dangerous trail.,

The trail itself isn’t bad, from my understanding …but she didn’t stay on it.

157 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 2:30:03pm

For those who were wondering about weird people showing up in their timeline?

Twitter Starts to Change the Central Logic of Its Service
The company is now showing users tweets from accounts they don’t follow. That’s a bigger deal than it seems.

This week, the company tested a change to its core product that could alter the service in a small but important way. According to Mashable, Twitter is altering the timeline of a small number of users, so that they see tweets from accounts they don’t follow.

Right now, users only see tweets for three reasons: They’re from an account that user follows; they were retweeted by an account that user follows; or they’re an ad. Now, a user might see tweets from an account that someone whom they follow follows, or a tweet that someone they follow favorited…

So even if you unfollow someone, some tweets from them are likely to show back up in your feed from what I am getting

158 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 2:30:06pm

re: #29 Shvaughn

REEFER MADNESS!!1!!!!

Freeper Madness!!!

159 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 2:30:21pm

re: #151 wrenchwench

I understand what you mean, but. Well. I’m kind of wishing I hadn’t written that. I’ll leave it, though.

160 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:31:13pm

re: #149 klys

The Bright Angel trail is pretty safe, it just takes a long time to get to the bottom.
That pic I posted is the Grandview (very steep and unmaintained) trail.

161 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 2:31:14pm

re: #108 Joanne

I think hubby had it on this morning because it was covering Ferguson while Morning Joke can only be tolerated for so long. I just left it. I can’t deal with the morning crowd (including Todd) whom I find ridiculous for the most part.

Hah. Finally vindication for staying up till 3 in the morning and sleeping in till 10! (I’m on the East coast and my clients are on the West coast, so it all works out.)

162 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 2:33:34pm

re: #120 Kragar

Todd didn’t want Jim Hoft to steal his thunder, apparently.

163 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 2:33:44pm

re: #161 BeachDem

Hah. Finally vindication for staying up till 3 in the morning and sleeping in till 10! (I’m on the East coast and my clients are on the West coast, so it all works out.)

That’s been my life the last couple of months. Today I am on east coast time again. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

And right now…I am hitting the couch. BB on my iPhone shortly.

164 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:35:01pm

re: #159 Minor_L

I understand what you mean, but. Well. I’m kind of wishing I hadn’t written that. I’ll leave it, though.

No worries. People come to their expectations by different routes, and feel their disappointments differently, but not all that much.

165 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 2:39:05pm

WTF?

166 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:40:18pm
167 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:41:30pm

re: #165 Gus

WTF?

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So his black thumb is on one scale and his white thumb is on another?

Or: he stays in Washington and sends Holder, like an adult.

168 Kragar  Aug 18, 2014 2:41:30pm
169 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 2:42:57pm

re: #149 klys

I am pretty sure if I ever try to go down into the Grand Canyon, it will be via helicopter or mule. So I can keep my eyes closed the whole damn time.

When I was in Ireland (just for you, Klys) we went to the Skellig Islands. I got about 4 steps up and gave up on the whole idea. Sat at the base and watched the puffins.

170 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:43:43pm
171 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:44:49pm

re: #170 wrenchwench

First black president not black enough for white Letterman Show writer.

172 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:45:11pm

re: #160 jaunte

The Bright Angel trail is pretty safe, it just takes a long time to get to the bottom.
That pic I posted is the Grandview (very steep and unmaintained) trail.

It can be nice and safe but it still involves a ton of DOWN so really it would depend on how much there is in the way of walls along switchbacks and whatnot. And even then.

Seriously, I can hyperventilate if I am not careful. And have.

re: #169 BeachDem

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I skipped Uncle Tom’s trail the last trip because it involves lots of stairs made out of that see-through metal grate. HAHAHAHAHA, no.

When we did our most recent road trip, we stopped by one of the fire lookout towers and went up and that was bad enough.

Nice view though.

173 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 2:45:39pm

re: #165 Gus

So because Obama isn’t going down to Ferguson to personally oversee the investigation, he’s rooting for the cop now? WTF.

174 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:46:14pm

re: #171 jaunte

First black president not black enough for white Letterman Show writer.

She’s a writer? I guess that doesn’t take much discernment these days.

175 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 2:46:44pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

Daily Show radical.

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 2:46:59pm

re: #170 wrenchwench

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177 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:48:57pm

re: #175 jaunte

Daily Show radical.

I watched John Oliver’s take on the events in Ferguson here.

It was good.

178 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 2:50:27pm

re: #173 Lidane

Exhibit infinity of why the fuck we need to teach civics in public school again. I swear to god I am SO sick of the complete lack of understanding how the government works, what branch does what, what agencies and departments are responsible for what, etc, etc, et-fucking-cetera. I’m not that damned old (54) and you HAD to know this shit to graduate high school. Hell, I must have been fucking exceptional because I know people my age who have no idea about this, some older too. Either they forgot, slept through class or their schools didn’t teach it. It’s depressing and embarrassing.

Like the President can just go to Missouri, yell at everyone, threaten to fire people and magically it will all be fixed. Seriously? Critical thinking, how does it work? Bah!!!

179 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 2:50:40pm

re: #172 klys

Heights don’t bother me. Falling does.

Ever see Pretty Woman? There’s a scene where Richard Gere can’t even look over his hotel balcony. That’s me. I get weirded out on balconies or ledges, but I don’t mind glass elevators. I’d also go on the London Eye if I ever make it to the UK. Skydiving or bungee or anything like that? HELL NO.

180 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:52:00pm

re: #179 Lidane

Heights don’t bother me. Falling does.

Ever see Pretty Woman? There’s a scene where Richard Gere can’t even look over his hotel balcony. That’s me. I get weirded out on balconies or ledges, but I don’t mind glass elevators. I’d also go on the London Eye if I ever make it to the UK. Skydiving or bungee or anything like that? HELL NO.

Glass I can handle. Skydiving, strangely enough, I think I could handle. Planes don’t bother me.

Any situation where a momentary loss of my balance could have significant consequences, I am so not-there. I stay, in general, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay far away from edges.

It’s gotten worse as I’ve gotten older. :(

181 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 2:52:33pm

re: #165 Gus

He’s getting his ass handed to him in his mentions.

182 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 18, 2014 2:53:06pm

re: #24 jaunte

Perry’s legal team has NO ANSWER for why Perry ignored other drunk driving arrests by GOP DAs
Oops, forgot.

GW Bush had a DWI and got elected governor…

183 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 2:53:13pm

re: #179 Lidane

Heights don’t bother me. Falling does.

Ever see Pretty Woman? There’s a scene where Richard Gere can’t even look over his hotel balcony. That’s me. I get weirded out on balconies or ledges, but I don’t mind glass elevators. I’d also go on the London Eye if I ever make it to the UK. Skydiving or bungee or anything like that? HELL NO.

I used to be worse; I couldn’t even handle a glass elevator. I’ve improved a lot from those days, but roller coasters are still an absolute no-go.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 2:53:31pm

re: #180 klys

Glass I can handle. Skydiving, strangely enough, I think I could handle. Planes don’t bother me.

Any situation where a momentary loss of my balance could have significant consequences, I am so not-there. I stay, in general, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay far away from edges.

It’s gotten worse as I’ve gotten older. :(

I can’t even do more than two steps up on a ladder…

185 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 2:54:05pm
186 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:54:19pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t even do more than two steps up on a ladder…

I stood on the countertop for removing samples from the furnace because the alternative was standing on the stepladder and oh fuck no.

187 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 2:54:49pm
188 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 2:58:14pm

re: #114 lostlakehiker

James McPherson has an excellent history of the civil war. Chapter titles include “the revolution of 1860” and “the counterrevolution of 1861”. Voting on secession, county by county, showed that the correlation between percentage of slaves in the county, and the vote, was sky high. Places such as Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, and Delaware, all with legal slavery in 1860 but very little of it in reality, stayed with the union. Eastern TN and Western VA voted against secession (Appalachia, poor whites and hardly any slaves), and WV seceded from the secession and came back into the union.

The war was about slavery. Period.

Best. One-Volume. Civil. War. History. Ever.

189 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 2:58:38pm

re: #180 klys

It’s gotten worse as I’ve gotten older. :(

Mine would get better and worse, cyclically. No more cycles, and it tends to rest in the lower levels of bother.

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 2:58:45pm

re: #165 Gus

WTF?

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Finder Of Dumb Tweets just found one.

191 klys  Aug 18, 2014 2:59:40pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

Mine would get better and worse, cyclically. No more cycles, and it tends to rest in the lower levels of bother.

I’ll hold out hope, because right now it’s pretty bad. I try not to let it interfere too much (see: I actually went up the damn fire lookout) but it is still really stressful and hard when you have the full blown adrenaline response to stuff that should be trivial.

192 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:00:08pm

re: #180 klys

Glass I can handle. Skydiving, strangely enough, I think I could handle. Planes don’t bother me.

Any situation where a momentary loss of my balance could have significant consequences, I am so not-there. I stay, in general, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay far away from edges.

It’s gotten worse as I’ve gotten older. :(

I was scared of flying originally, because I knew how terrified of heights I was. My first flight was exhilarating. Since then, I’ve wanted to learn to fly and I also would love to try skydiving. Something about being able to be up on the vertical without being deathly afraid that satisfies me.

193 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 3:01:19pm

re: #191 klys

I’ll hold out hope, because right now it’s pretty bad. I try not to let it interfere too much (see: I actually went up the damn fire lookout) but it is still really stressful and hard when you have the full blown adrenaline response to stuff that should be trivial.

Don’t push it, unless you want to, in which case consulting a professional would probably be most successful.

194 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 3:01:36pm
195 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 3:02:07pm

re: #194 Gus

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OK, out of the dumb file and back to the human file.

196 ElaineBenis  Aug 18, 2014 3:03:44pm

Caught a few minutes of my local radio wingnut bellweather today.

He sometimes puts up a tepid attempt at MBF cover - some weak credit towards libs, mild criticism of GOPers. Today he was full-throttle vilifying Mike Brown and the black community. Sharpton, Jackson, lazy moochers, garbled cell recording is PROOF, drug-addled criminal thug, thanks Obama, etc etc. Cops are saints of course. Really digging in.

197 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 3:03:49pm

re: #195 wrenchwench

OK, out of the dumb file and back to the human file.

Side eye! //

198 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 3:04:11pm

re: #194 Gus

Someone in his mentions asks what he wants the President do to. I’d like to know that, too. I don’t know if any of them actually said what they think he should have done.

199 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:04:40pm

No badges, no nameplates.

200 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 3:04:50pm

re: #180 klys

Glass I can handle. Skydiving, strangely enough, I think I could handle. Planes don’t bother me.

Any situation where a momentary loss of my balance could have significant consequences, I am so not-there. I stay, in general, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay far away from edges.

It’s gotten worse as I’ve gotten older. :(

I don’t mind flying, don’t mind glass elevators, don’t even mind lookouts on top of tall buildings—I think that’s because things look miniature from high up.

It’s those situations where one false step and whoops—no thank you. Perhaps it’s partly due to having bad vision and not trusting my depth perception.

I’ve also developed an aversion to suspension bridges.

201 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 3:04:58pm

re: #191 klys

I’m that way when driving on highways over 3 lanes. I can’t. I get physically ill and have horrible panic attacks. I’ve tried everything and I simply can’t figure out how to get past it. I can drive anywhere else on secondary roads with no problem, maybe a bit of anxiety about getting lost, but that’s remedied with a GPS and getting there a couple of times. I can’t drive on 285 around Atlanta or on 75 or 85 in or around the city until the roads are well outside populated areas. It makes life smaller than I’d like, but having a serious panic attack on a 6 or 8 lane highway where people are driving 80mph or more is dangerous, not just for me but for everyone else. It sucks.

202 De Kolta Chair  Aug 18, 2014 3:05:22pm

Obey authority except when it comes to the NSA, UFO’s and 9-11!!

Geez, do I have to tell you sheeple how to do everything???!!1!!

203 Minor_L  Aug 18, 2014 3:05:49pm

Sadly, I think Ezra Klein is, at least sort of, right: vox.com

I think people need to change the climate in this country before a President can give a transformative speech, rather than expect a transformative speech to change the climate. Politics play a role, and it’s naive for people to think otherwise.

204 Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2014 3:06:35pm

re: #199 jaunte

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No badges, no nameplates.

No abdominals.

205 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:07:06pm

re: #204 Decatur Deb

Oh they’re there, deep undercover.

206 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 3:07:29pm

re: #199 jaunte

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No badges, no nameplates.

They seem nice.

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 18, 2014 3:08:15pm

re: #201 A Mom Anon

I nearly had an attack of vertigo on the LA freeways coming off into a mega five-level flyover.

208 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 3:09:31pm

re: #179 Lidane

Heights don’t bother me. Falling does.

Ever see Pretty Woman? There’s a scene where Richard Gere can’t even look over his hotel balcony. That’s me. I get weirded out on balconies or ledges, but I don’t mind glass elevators. I’d also go on the London Eye if I ever make it to the UK. Skydiving or bungee or anything like that? HELL NO.

I’m seriously afraid of heights if I am on a balcony or ledge, or in a tall building or on a cliff or anything similar that is physically attached to the ground. I have been a pilot all my adult life, though, and have never been afraid of height in an aircraft even though the height is enormously greater. How do I square this? I actually talked to an aviation psychologist about it once many years ago. He told me that this paradox is fairly common and it happens because the aircraft is detached from the ground and becomes the ground to my sub-conscious. It may even be part of the appeal of flying for me; to be free to move in the sky, defying my primordial fear of falling.

The glass floor in the CN Tower in Toronto is the scariest high place I have visited in person. They have a glass section in the floor that you (but not I!) can get out and walk on. It is 1122 feet straight to the hard Canadian concrete below. EEEEEEKK! I could not get within 10 feet of it even though there were unconcerned children out playing on it. I wanted to retreat even from there and hug the nearest rail for dear life. My wife thought it was hilarious. “Toddlers go where red hot chopper ace fears to tread!” I pointed out that I was not an ace and would not come back to that frightful place unless they let me bring a parachute.
They have something even more frightening now, the Edge Walk. This is obviously only for un-evolved types whose ancestors never learned to fear falling out of the home tree.

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 3:09:31pm
210 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 3:11:21pm

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I really wish I could overcome this, I’ve been to therapists about it, nothing seems to help. Like I said, I can drive anywhere else, just not in big cities on big roads. I’d love to fix that, but it’s not getting any better with age.

211 abolitionist  Aug 18, 2014 3:11:40pm

re: #199 jaunte

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No badges, no nameplates.

Seems to be the new fashion in governmental transparency —badges and nametags so transparent that they can’t be seen.

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 3:12:18pm
213 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 3:13:05pm

re: #198 Minor_L

Someone in his mentions asks what he wants the President do to. I’d like to know that, too. I don’t know if any of them actually said what they think he should have done.

Rep. Lewis has suggested going in with a federalized national guard. The more time FPD and St. Louis county are given to continue their sabotage of the situation, the better this idea looks.

214 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 3:13:42pm

re: #203 Minor_L

Sadly, I think Ezra Klein is, at least sort of, right: vox.com

I think people need to change the climate in this country before a President can give a transformative speech, rather than expect a transformative speech to change the climate. Politics play a role, and it’s naive for people to think otherwise.

When you have Fox and the likes if Limbaugh, et al, this will never happen. The GOP and their varied mouthpieces create the environment. Transformation is, IMHO, impossible.

215 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 3:13:42pm

re: #199 jaunte

Is that legal? Not that these….(searching for right word)…officers give a shit about legalities but I thought that was mandatory.

216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 3:13:51pm
217 Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2014 3:14:54pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

btw that’s Hedy Epstein, she’s over 90 and a Holocaust survivor.

Probably makes it hard to be impressed by uniforms, then.

218 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 3:16:09pm
219 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 3:16:53pm

re: #210 A Mom Anon

I really wish I could overcome this, I’ve been to therapists about it, nothing seems to help. Like I said, I can drive anywhere else, just not in big cities on big roads. I’d love to fix that, but it’s not getting any better with age.

I don’t think it’s an actual phobia, but I really detest driving in a city. That’s a big part of why I’ve lived in the SF bay area for 20+ years and gone up to SF only a handful of times.

220 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:19:12pm

re: #215 A Mom Anon

Is that legal? Not that these….(searching for right word)…officers give a shit about legalities but I thought that was mandatory.

Looks like they only care about badges when it’s related to impersonation of officers, or selling:
slpl.lib.mo.us

221 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 3:19:26pm

re: #219 EPR-radar

I don’t think it’s an actual phobia, but I really detest driving in a city. That’s a big part of why I’ve live in the SF bay area for 20+ years and gone up to SF only a handful of times.

Dallas does it for me. I will go to Fort Worth when I need to but as far as I’m concerned Dallas is the part of the map that used to be labeled “heare be dragons.”

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 3:20:57pm
223 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 3:22:50pm

Don’t know if someone posted this or not, but this is America, 2014:

Mississippi suspect accused of shooting man over mixed-race grandkids

A Mississippi man charged with shooting and beating his mother’s boyfriend has been accused of carrying out the attack in anger over the victim’s mixed-race grandchildren, police said on Monday.

Jeffery Daniels, of rural Smith County in central Mississippi, has been charged with aggravated assault in connection with a Friday evening incident that left Craig Wilson badly beaten and with a gunshot wound to the stomach, police said.

Daniels’ mother told police that he carried out the attack in anger over a visit from Wilson’s young grandchildren, who are mixed-race, said Smith County Sheriff Charlie Crumpton.

[…]

Roughly two weeks before the incident, a cross was burned in front of Wilson’s house, Crumpton said. Police do not know who burned the cross, the sheriff added.

224 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:24:42pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But the police aren’t doing anything wrong, they’re the victims here!

225 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 3:25:52pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Dallas does it for me. I will go to Fort Worth when I need to but as far as I’m concerned Dallas is the part of the map that used to be labeled “heare be dragons.”

I can see that. I had summer jobs at Texas Instruments for a couple of years, and as I recall US 75 + Texas drivers was an unpleasant combination.

226 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 3:26:12pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Probably makes it hard to be impressed by uniforms, then.

Favorably, at least.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 3:26:40pm

re: #224 thedopefishlives

But the police aren’t doing anything wrong, they’re the victims here!

I’m just pleased with myself that I didn’t tweet a response about Don Lemon being threatened with arrest for gross abuse of factual reporting…

228 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 3:27:39pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

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I don’t know what he might have sued for, but I’m sure if he consulted a lawyer, he soon learned what ‘discovery’ is, and why he wouldn’t like it.

229 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:28:54pm
230 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 3:29:05pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did this make it on CNN TV or are they still rolling with the Josie file?

231 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 18, 2014 3:29:06pm

re: #199 jaunte

Youtube Video

232 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:29:38pm

re: #230 Joanne

Did this make it on CNN TV or are they still rolling with the Josie file?

Better question: Have they tied it to MH370 yet?

233 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 3:29:41pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

I don’t know what he might have sued for, but I’m sure if he consulted a lawyer, he soon learned what ‘discovery’ is, and why he wouldn’t like it.

Another thing that could have been off-putting here is the explanation of how the truth of the allegations is an affirmative defense in a libel or slander case.

234 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 3:29:41pm
235 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 3:30:58pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

They keep this shit up and there will be enough journalists/reporters/newsmodels involved for a class action lawsuit. Sigh.

236 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 3:31:08pm

Yeah, this guy is a real winner…timeline full’o’hate™

237 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 3:31:30pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

I don’t know what he might have sued for, but I’m sure if he consulted a lawyer, he soon learned what ‘discovery’ is, and why he wouldn’t like it.

I wish he had sued me, because I would have owned his ass. Thoroughly.

238 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 3:31:37pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And if you get caught dealing, you get a reality show and run for governor of South Carolina.

thestate.com

(Funny how his Bravo bio doesn’t mention any of the sordid details)

bravotv.com

239 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:31:51pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

I wish he had sued me, because I would have owned his ass. Thoroughly.

The very definition of Legaltainment (tm).

240 Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2014 3:32:17pm

re: #223 freetoken

Don’t know if someone posted this or not, but this is America, 2014:

Mississippi suspect accused of shooting man over mixed-race grandkids

That lacks nothing but crawdads and banjos.

241 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 3:33:05pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jon Swaine @jonswaine

Don Lemon of CNN being threatened with arrest by county cop #Ferguson vine.co
6:15 PM - 18 Aug 2014

Does that mean his CNN special town hall tonight on race will be canceled?

/

242 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:34:24pm
243 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:35:12pm
244 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:36:36pm

re: #243 NJDhockeyfan

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What the hell is going on in Missouri today? Where’s the National Guard?

245 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 3:37:39pm

Don Lemon praying for a black hole to appear for him to jump into.

246 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:37:44pm

Kneeling on head.

247 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 18, 2014 3:38:38pm

re: #246 jaunte

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Kneeling on head.

They just want him to be a bit more polite.
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248 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:38:43pm

Not sure why that deserved a downding; it was a partial followup on events from earlier, when it was reported that the National Guard was being sent to Ferguson…

249 klys  Aug 18, 2014 3:38:48pm

re: #244 thedopefishlives

What the hell is going on in Missouri today? Where’s the National Guard?

Sort of curious why this rated a downding?

250 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 3:38:48pm

re: #243 NJDhockeyfan

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Uh oh, don’t piss off the Getty Images folks.

251 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 3:39:33pm

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

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When you’re too radical for the Klan….

Holy. Shit.

252 simoom  Aug 18, 2014 3:39:40pm
253 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 3:40:33pm

re: #246 jaunte

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Kneeling on head.

Well, he does have some pretty dangerous looking water bottles. Any kidding aside, what the fuck is going on there? It looks like they’re about to hogtie him.

254 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:40:58pm

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

They just want him to be a bit more polite.
///

“Go away or we’ll shove your head into the ground.”

255 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:41:21pm

re: #253 BeachDem

Well, he does have some pretty dangerous looking water bottles. Any kidding aside, what the fuck is going on there? It looks like they’re about to hogtie him.

Well, it is something that’s done to suspects who are resisting when trying to cuff them, and you notice the color of the suspect’s skin, so…

256 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:41:22pm
257 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:41:45pm

He got out of the Press kettle.

258 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 3:42:13pm

St. Louis County cops are completely out of control. They make every cop everywhere look bad. Who could trust any cops like this?

259 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:43:11pm

scottolsonphotography.com
“He served 8 years in the military (4 years in the Marines and 4 years in the National Guard).”

260 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 3:43:11pm

re: #246 jaunte

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Kneeling on head.

McDonald’s is getting more publicity out of this than anyone.

261 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 3:43:36pm

re: #244 thedopefishlives

I think Obama said National Guard would be only manning the central command post to free up the other officers.

262 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:43:55pm
263 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 3:44:01pm

re: #258 Joanne

St. Louis County cops are completely out of control. They make every cop everywhere look bad. Who could trust any cops like this?

Yeah, I seem to keep seeing their brown uniforms every time something excessive happens.

264 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:44:52pm

Some of Scott Olson’s work here:
vox.com

265 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 18, 2014 3:44:54pm

Has anyone seen photos of the National Guard who’s supposed to be coming into this?

266 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 3:45:59pm

re: #244 thedopefishlives

What the hell is going on in Missouri today? Where’s the National Guard?

Guarding the police command post to free up more cops to harass people the last I heard.

267 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 3:46:00pm

re: #261 urbanmeemaw

I think Obama said National Guard would be only manning the central command post to free up the other officers.

Ah, thank you. That explains a lot.

268 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 18, 2014 3:46:06pm

Off the Ferguson topic, but for the crafts people here are some neat sculptures being done for the children’s section of a library in Toledo.

toledoblade.com

269 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:46:28pm
270 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 3:46:45pm

re: #265 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Has anyone seen photos of the National Guard who’s supposed to be coming into this?

80 arrived earlier, assigned to guard the police command post/staging area.

271 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 3:48:54pm

re: #246 jaunte

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Kneeling on head.

I recognize the clothes, that is one of the RCP douches…

272 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 3:51:30pm

re: #271 ausador

I recognize the clothes, that is one of the RCP douches…

RCP? There are so many involved…who is that?

273 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 3:51:31pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hedy Epstein is not a Holocaust survivor, she spent WW2 in the UK. Holocaust refugee, not survivor. Survivor implies someone who lived through the camps or on the run.

But she calls herself a “Holocaust survivor” because it carries more gravitas than “adorbs little old lady”

274 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 3:52:11pm
275 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 3:52:29pm

re: #260 wrenchwench

McDonald’s is getting more publicity out of this than anyone.

It’s the 99 cent get arrested for free burger.

276 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 3:53:17pm
277 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 3:54:47pm

Racists are so fucking dumb:
Statistical tables, how do they fucking work?

278 Danny  Aug 18, 2014 3:54:59pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

Lots of “unless” caveats in that.

279 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 3:55:17pm

re: #272 Joanne

RCP? There are so many involved…who is that?

Revolutionary Communist Party, they have a long history of elbowing in on any protest for any cause and then rabble rousing and making trouble.

I’d link to the wikipedia article on them but it just got propagandized and hasn’t been reverted yet. :(

280 klys  Aug 18, 2014 3:55:18pm

Kitty cuteness break. This is where I found him when I went in to get a glass of water.

It’s a catbed, right?

281 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 3:55:28pm

Looks like things are going to get ugly early tonight in Ferguson.

282 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 3:57:09pm

re: #279 ausador

Revolutionary Communist Party, they have a long history of elbowing in on any protest for any cause and then rabble rousing and making trouble.

I’d link to the wikipedia article on them but it just got propagandized and hasn’t been reverted yet. :(

It’s getting almost impossible to tell the players without a scorecard. What identifies him? (so I’ll know to BOLO going forward)

283 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 3:57:38pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

Looks like things are going to get ugly early tonight in Ferguson.

That’s the feeling I get as well. If all the national guard is going to do is guard the police command post so that more FPD and St. Louis county police trouble-makers can take to the streets, that can’t possibly be a step in the right direction.

284 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 3:58:03pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

‘Unless it physically interferes’ is a giant loophole.

285 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 3:59:28pm

re: #277 Pie-onist Overlord

I tried to type three different things to respond to this and I just can’t find the words. Beyond a loud scream.

286 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 4:00:48pm

re: #274 NJDhockeyfan

re: #262 NJDhockeyfan

re: #259 jaunte

So lets keep this in mind for Ferguson-
Shoot an unarmed man in the head under color of authority and leave town with your identity protected. Take a picture of a protest, go directly to jail. Despite court orders. Anyone Still Not Clear on who is wrong ?

Photography Is Not A Crime.

When is a non-exempt record exempt? When is a record claimed exempt non-exempt? These questions are raised with the inconsistent positions being taken by the St. Louis County Police Department regarding public records requests for the still unreleased “Incident Report” of the shooting of Michael Brown. (Ironically - the “Incident Report” of the alleged robbery prior to the shooting has been widely disseminated by the St. Louis County Police Department).
The ACLU of Missouri filed a public records request for this very Incident Report on August 12th. [See the ACLU request and denial here].

On August 13th they were denied the request in writing. The statement was that it was exempt because “There is an on-going investigation” at this time.

But this is not a valid exemption - and the Police Department and its officials knew it. The only thing exempt under Missouri’s public records law, during an open-investigation, is the “report of the investigation.” The fact that other records, including pre-existing public records, are used in or may be used in an investigation does not render them thus exempt under the law.

287 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 4:01:07pm

re: #279 ausador

Thanks!

288 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 4:01:30pm

ABC Nightly news made a very good point. Brown is 6’4”. To have been shot in the head at that angle, he had to have been on his knees.

289 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 4:02:30pm

This is some bullshit. WTF?

290 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 4:03:11pm

re: #289 CuriousLurker

they can’t stop moving

That’s pretty vague.

291 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 18, 2014 4:03:11pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

Looks like things are going to get ugly early tonight in Ferguson.

gotta beat on them one more night before the Nat. Guard gets in the way.

292 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 4:03:24pm

re: #286 Rightwingconspirator

So lets keep this in mind for Ferguson-
Shoot an unarmed man in the head under color of authority and leave town with your identity protected. Take a picture of a protest, go directly to jail. Despite court orders. Anyone Still Not Clear on who is wrong ?

Photography Is Not A Crime.

They don’t have to go to jail, or be arrested. Just ‘detained’. The photos from detention are much less interesting, and less incriminating.

They don’t want to jail ‘em, just spoil their view for a while, and intimidate the rest.

293 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 4:03:45pm

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

I was thinking about that after the medical examiner’s press conference. What was the angle of the bullet on his head? How tall was Wilson? etc. To me that was a critical question. I sounds as if we are starting to get some answers.

294 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 4:04:13pm

re: #290 jaunte

That’s pretty vague.

It’s jaywalker season.

295 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 4:05:15pm

re: #282 BeachDem

It’s getting almost impossible to tell the players without a scorecard. What identifies him? (so I’ll know to BOLO going forward)

I just recognize the shirt and vest (and bandana around neck) from last night when he was with the others. Their onsite leader is Greg “Joey” Johnson, a 50 year old white guy, but almost all the party members are black.

Youtube Video

296 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 4:05:40pm
297 Danny  Aug 18, 2014 4:05:50pm

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

ABC Nightly news made a very good point. Brown is 6’4”. To have been shot in the head at that angle, he had to have been on his knees.

Another possibility: falling toward Wilson.

298 Dave In Austin  Aug 18, 2014 4:05:51pm

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

“He had his head down and was charging teh police like the mad pot crazed bull that he was…..”

//

299 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 4:05:58pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ms. Backwoods Sleuth - how is your stepson doing today? Did they successfully bring him out of his coma? If you’ve already posted status and I missed it my apologies. I just wanted to know how he (and you and family) are doing.

300 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 4:07:50pm

What’s the opposite of a bucket list? An outhouse list, shit I thought I’d never ever see again.

re: #289 CuriousLurker

Utterly infuriating. I really wish I could drop work and fly out with my small crew. LWC as my wingman and D-L out of harms way uploading to here and cloud storage.

re: #292 wrenchwench

They don’t have to go to jail, or be arrested. Just ‘detained’. The photos from detention are much less interesting, and less incriminating.

They don’t want to jail ‘em, just spoil their view for a while, and intimidate the rest.

Screw the National Guard time for the 101st Airborne. And not to guard the command center. To guard the protesting populace from the city county and state police.

301 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 4:07:52pm

re: #295 ausador

I just recognize the shirt and vest (and bandana around neck) from last night when he was with the others. Their onsite leader is Greg “Joey” Johnson, a 50 year old white guy, but almost all the party members are black.

I thought that guy looked a little ‘out-of-townish.’

302 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 4:08:06pm

re: #289 CuriousLurker

This is some bullshit. WTF?

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They need to start putting up signs on the main drag…

NO NEGRO LOITERING!
By Order of the Ferguson P.D.

303 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:08:23pm

So any time a photographer “stops to take a picture” they can be arrested.

304 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 4:08:33pm

re: #285 A Mom Anon

I tried to type three different things to respond to this and I just can’t find the words. Beyond a loud scream.

DearAMomAnon: I so hear you. It just feels so overwhelming. I can’t help but wonder how Mike Brown’s family and the community can deal with this. Then I go back and wonder how the Civil Rights activists in the South endured the hatred, the threats, the bombings, the beatings. The power of good these people have exhibited gives me hope. But it still overwhelms me.

305 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 18, 2014 4:08:59pm
306 klys  Aug 18, 2014 4:09:36pm
307 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 4:09:39pm

re: #285 A Mom Anon

I tried to type three different things to respond to this and I just can’t find the words. Beyond a loud scream.

If you actually open the PDF and look for the table, it’s about the race of the victim, nothing about the race of the perp. All it means is there were no victims who identified as being of two or more races.

308 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 4:09:43pm

re: #302 ausador

They need to start putting up signs on the main drag…

NO NEGRO LOITERING!
By Order of the Ferguson P.D.

That sums it up nicely.

309 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 4:09:49pm

re: #299 urbanmeemaw

Ms. Backwoods Sleuth - how is your stepson doing today? Did they successfully bring him out of his coma? If you’ve already posted status and I missed it my apologies. I just wanted to know how he (and you and family) are doing.

The doctors were going to try to wake him from the coma today.
I haven’t heard anything since.

310 moderatelyradicalliberal  Aug 18, 2014 4:09:51pm

re: #269 NJDhockeyfan

This lady is my new favorite person!

311 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 4:11:47pm

re: #300 Rightwingconspirator

And paged.

Retweets much appreciated.
:-)

312 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 4:12:08pm

re: #305 NJDhockeyfan

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I guess the locals had to let their inner asshole fly before the Guard got there. Hopefully the Guard will guard the citizenry.

313 klys  Aug 18, 2014 4:12:11pm

re: #306 klys

314 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 4:12:12pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you for the update.

315 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 4:12:17pm
316 moderatelyradicalliberal  Aug 18, 2014 4:12:21pm

re: #277 Pie-onist Overlord

Someone explain to this person where “light-skinned” black people come from.

317 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 4:13:00pm

re: #300 Rightwingconspirator

What’s the opposite of a bucket list? An outhouse list, shit I thought I’d never ever see again.

Utterly infuriating. I really wish I could drop work and fly out with my small crew. LWC as my wingman and D-L out of harms way uploading to here and cloud storage.

Screw the National Guard time for the 101st Airborne. And not to guard the command center. To guard the protesting populace from the city county and state police.

Seriously. someone needs to hand out body cams to all the protestors, ones that will immediately upload to the cloud.

318 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:13:20pm

[Man stops to tie his shoes.]

COP: KEEP MOVING OR YOU WILL BE ARRESTED!

MAN: HEY, I’M TYING MY SHOES!

COP: KEEP MOVING OR YOUR WILL BE ARRESTED!

MAN: I’M TYING MY…

[BAMN!]

319 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 4:13:28pm

re: #304 urbanmeemaw

Yeah, Post Racial America my ass. I’m really feeling it living in the part of metro Atlanta I’m in. God. Mostly white, lots of money (not my family, lol, we’re below the average income in this area), not much sense or empathy. Every year that’s passed since 9/11, the racism has become more and more blatant. It’s sickening. It’s being passed down to the next generation too, which is more disgusting. I have some hope, the kids in their late teens and early 20’s seem to be less assholish than their parents, but it’s still there in that generation too. I wish it would just die already.

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 4:13:52pm
321 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:15:19pm

There will be the borg cops that don’t give a shit.

322 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 4:16:05pm

re: #307 Pie-onist Overlord

If you actually open the PDF and look for the table, it’s about the race of the victim, nothing about the race of the perp. All it means is there were no victims who identified as being of two or more races.

Table 42 relates to perceived race of offender, and has a strange looking 0% for white offender and black victim that is presumably what the wingnut is derping about. That result is flagged with an * for small sample size, so this is hardly “case closed”.

323 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 4:17:28pm

The heedless arrogance of the SL County Police is breathtaking. Literally the entire world is calling them out for their behavior and they STILL will not stop intimidating and harassing journalists.

This is one reason I dabble in “prepperism.” I think there is a finite possibility of a complete social collapse, instigated by a major natural disaster, economic crisis, a massive terrorist event or, more likely a coincidence of two or more of these. The authority structure in this country is riddled with corruption and hubris, from “asset forfeiture,” to the sadistic killing of family pets, to military toys, to plain murder and a massive contempt for the citizenry. Bullies like this cannot handle a real threat, and I think the system could collapse completely and catastrophically given the necessary circumstances.

324 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 4:18:08pm

re: #303 Gus

So any time a photographer “stops to take a picture” they can be arrested.

Just keep running while shooting. Wilson sure did and he got off Scott free.

325 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 4:19:09pm

re: #301 jaunte

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I thought that guy looked a little ‘out-of-townish.’

He is always right up front with a bullhorn egging people on to confront the police lines. People onsite say they are the ones who have been using or trying to use molotov cocktails on the police too.

326 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 4:19:58pm

re: #312 Joanne

I guess the locals had to let their inner asshole fly before the Guard got there. Hopefully the Guard will guard the citizenry.

By most accounts I’ve been hearing, the looters etc. aren’t residents of Ferguson.

327 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 4:20:44pm

re: #295 ausador

Thanks—good eyes, I would not have recognized the shirt (and that guy in the video is super creepy.)

328 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:20:57pm

I can see it now. Some guy stops walking because he’s experiencing chest pains. Heart attack possible. Boom! Taken down by a robo-cop.

329 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:21:39pm
330 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 4:21:47pm

Those are not the Bolsheviks I was looking for…..

331 ninja cat  Aug 18, 2014 4:22:22pm

O/T for this twitter newbie. I just signed up (@exninjacat) and am so far following 29 people. I left my computer up today and came home to find ‘857 new tweets’! Is that normal? Do I have something set up wrong? Also, I am following a couple people here that I have seen on there, if you see me doing something dumb please fill me in. I’m trying to figure this out but am just a little overwhelmed.

332 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2014 4:22:23pm

re: #297 Danny

Another possibility: falling toward Wilson.

Bullet entered the back and exited out near or through the eye (can’t recall e specifics on the location of the exit wound). Not buying that he was falling towards Wilson.

333 WhatEVs  Aug 18, 2014 4:22:32pm

re: #326 GlutenFreeJesus

By most accounts I’ve been hearing, the looters etc. aren’t residents of Ferguson.

The whole situation is no win. Assholes from out of town. Assholes in the various PDs. Ferguson citizens surrounded by both. No Justice for a dead kid. No change for the rest.

Fuck.

334 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 4:23:11pm

Just in case anyone in the world still has any doubt about how the dominant race treats all the others in the United States, I can only say “Any Questions?”.

This is what the Right Wing means by American Exceptionalsm.

335 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 4:23:19pm

re: #328 Gus

I can see it now. Some guy stops walking because he’s experiencing chest pains. Heart attack possible. Boom! Taken down by a robo-cop.

Would this be a problem? Just think of all the taxpayer dollars that could be saved by having the cops show up to blow away anyone making a medical 911 call in Ferguson.

336 Jenner7  Aug 18, 2014 4:23:36pm

I would just walk in circles, because according to police, you have to be constantly moving to avoid arrest.

Yikes, do they know they are being watched?? What they are doing is insane.

337 klys  Aug 18, 2014 4:24:48pm

re: #331 ninja cat

It’s going to depend on who you’re following and how much they tweet, how many tweets you come back to. Some people tweet a lot, some people don’t.

338 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 4:25:19pm

re: #323 Shiplord Kirel

The heedless arrogance of the SL County Police is breathtaking. Literally the entire world is calling them out for their behavior and they STILL will not stop intimidating and harassing journalists.

This is one reason I dabble in “prepperism.” I think there is a finite possibility of a complete social collapse, instigated by a major natural disaster, economic crisis, a massive terrorist event or, more likely a coincidence of two or more of these. The authority structure in this country is riddled with corruption and hubris, from “asset forfeiture,” to the sadistic killing of family pets, to military toys, to plain murder and a massive contempt for the citizenry. Bullies like this cannot handle a real threat, and I think the system could collapse completely and catastrophically given the necessary circumstances.

You just know that people in the police that try to do the right thing would be the first ones shot in the back by their so-called peers if the shit really does hit the fan.

339 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 4:25:44pm

Peaceful protestors and reputable journalists threatened with mayhem and arrest, while that stupid Molotov flinging white agitator is still running around loose. There is something wrong with this picture.

340 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 4:25:50pm
341 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:26:57pm
342 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 4:27:31pm

Classic Fox News.

343 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 4:27:36pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

National guard troops deployed on roofs

Note that their weapons aren’t visible, let alone pointed at anyone.

344 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 4:29:23pm

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Peaceful protestors and reputable journalists threatened with mayhem and arrest, while that stupid Molotov flinging white agitator is still running around loose. There is something wrong with this picture.

It all make perfect sense once you assume that FPD wants a riot to occur.

Arrest/cage the journalists, harass the legitimate protestors, and turn a blind eye to those who are inciting riot. This is what FPD appears to be doing.

345 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 4:30:22pm

re: #343 Shiplord Kirel

Note that their weapons aren’t visible, let alone pointed at anyone.

A tragic lack of body armor is also noted, as is a lack of heavy weaponry.

346 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 4:31:43pm

[ferguson cop] Do I have to shoot at your feet to keep y’all moving? [/ferguson cop]

347 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 4:31:46pm

re: #342 Charles Johnson

Ben Carson must have been busy. I wonder why they never invite Rush Limbaugh’s house N*****Clang, Mr. Snerdly? He’s fully house trained and can be counted on to say the white thing.

348 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 4:33:38pm

re: #331 ninja cat

re: #337 klys

Also if you have followed people who are keeping up with Ferguson you are going to get very high traffic right now what with everything that has been going on.

349 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 4:36:42pm

Just heard from youngest step-son.
Oldest step-son is awake from the coma, responding, gave a thumbs up and peace sign.
He still can’t breathe on his own, but taking it a day at a time.

350 nines09  Aug 18, 2014 4:37:06pm

Completely OT but this is beautiful. Ospreys are marvelous.

351 klys  Aug 18, 2014 4:37:18pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just heard from youngest step-son.
Oldest step-son is awake from the coma, responding, gave a thumbs up and peace sign.
He still can’t breathe on his own, but taking it a day at a time.

Continued thoughts to you and yours, but that is excellent news.

352 ninja cat  Aug 18, 2014 4:39:51pm

re: #348 ausador

Okay, thanks. That’s pretty much why I signed up. Just did not expect the amount to be so bountiful.

353 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 18, 2014 4:40:34pm

re: #280 klys

Kitty cuteness break. This is where I found him when I went in to get a glass of water.

It’s a catbed, right?

I think the cat is looking for the droid.

354 allegro  Aug 18, 2014 4:40:34pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nice to know the Nat Guard troops will be safe up on those roofs.

355 klys  Aug 18, 2014 4:41:13pm

re: #352 ninja cat

Okay, thanks. That’s pretty much why I signed up. Just did not expect the amount to be so bountiful.

My strategy, and your mileage will almost certainly vary, but: I have a few folks who I follow who I trust to winnow out the useful information, and I can supplement by doing searches of my own.

Of course, I do nothing to assist with this because I generally use mine to tweet cat and craft pictures and snarky comments, but.

356 klys  Aug 18, 2014 4:41:36pm

re: #353 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the cat is looking for the droid.

I do like my pepper grinder. :D

357 danarchy  Aug 18, 2014 4:41:42pm

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

ABC Nightly news made a very good point. Brown is 6’4”. To have been shot in the head at that angle, he had to have been on his knees.

I think it is more likely he was falling over when he got hit in the head. The shot that went through his eye came out near his jaw and re-entered at his collar bone. Unless he was standing directly over him and shooting straight down I don’t see how that happens otherwise unless you have a weird ricochet. If he was standing close enough to shoot straight down like that I would assume there would be GSR all over him.

But I am not a forensics expert so I will shut up.

358 Gus  Aug 18, 2014 4:41:59pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just heard from youngest step-son.
Oldest step-son is awake from the coma, responding, gave a thumbs up and peace sign.
He still can’t breathe on his own, but taking it a day at a time.

{{{{Backwoods_Sleuth}}}}

359 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 18, 2014 4:42:32pm

re: #290 jaunte

That’s pretty vague.

It’s their version of The Long Walk. And you know what happens if you stop moving.
O_O

360 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 4:43:10pm

re: #354 allegro

Nice to know the Nat Guard troops will be safe up on those roofs.

They are just spotters, their weapon is a radio.

361 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 4:43:26pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a step in the right direction.

{{{{BackwoodsSleuth}}}}}}

362 A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2014 4:43:38pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

What awesome news. I hope he continues to improve. (((hugs)))

363 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 4:43:55pm

re: #331 ninja cat

O/T for this twitter newbie. I just signed up (@exninjacat) and am so far following 29 people. I left my computer up today and came home to find ‘857 new tweets’! Is that normal? Do I have something set up wrong? Also, I am following a couple people here that I have seen on there, if you see me doing something dumb please fill me in. I’m trying to figure this out but am just a little overwhelmed.

I’ll second what klys said, depends on who you’re following. I’ve unfollowed people who tweet too much (some do it literally every few minutes for hours on end).

An important thing to do is go though your account settings. If you’re accessing Twitter via the web, use the gear icon in the upper right. Once you’re there, the main things to check on are 1.) Security and privacy, 2.) Email notifications, and 3.) Apps. I check #1 and #3 every few months, just to see if anything has changed or if anything suspicious shows up.

Also, have a strong password and use Tweetdeck for your desktop machine (if possible). I use Tweetbot for my iOS devices. What else? Oh, I use totally separate email accounts for different things—some belong to me (or rather my domains, where I can add/edit/delete accounts), and others are GMail or Yahoo accounts (mostly GMail). All of that is totally separate from personal, real life stuff.

I know that may sound kinda cloak & dagger paranoid, but at least if one of my accounts is hacked, then it’s only that account that’s compromised and the others are safe (because they use different emails, passwords, etc.) Obfuscation is the first line of defense/threat mitigation.

364 ninja cat  Aug 18, 2014 4:43:58pm

re: #355 klys

Well there can never be too many cat pics.

365 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 4:44:27pm

re: #344 EPR-radar

It all make perfect sense once you assume that FPD wants a riot to occur.

Arrest/cage the journalists, harass the legitimate protestors, and turn a blind eye to those who are inciting riot. This is what FPD appears to be doing.

I think you might be right. They seem to want to create America’s own Sharpeville, the seminal event in 1960 when South African police fired into a crowd of protesters, killing 69 and wounding many more.

366 BeachDem  Aug 18, 2014 4:47:30pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just heard from youngest step-son.
Oldest step-son is awake from the coma, responding, gave a thumbs up and peace sign.
He still can’t breathe on his own, but taking it a day at a time.

Wonderful news. Still thinking good thoughts for you and yours.

367 allegro  Aug 18, 2014 4:47:41pm

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel

I think you might be right. They seem to want to create America’s own Sharpeville, the seminal event in 1960 when South African police fired into a crowd of protesters, killing 69 and wounding many more.

Does Captain Johnson have ANY authority here? Or is he on the FPD side after all?

368 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 4:48:07pm
369 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 18, 2014 4:48:46pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m glad for you and your family. I think I missed the original post however - what happened to your step-son?

370 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 4:50:06pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just heard from youngest step-son.
Oldest step-son is awake from the coma, responding, gave a thumbs up and peace sign.
He still can’t breathe on his own, but taking it a day at a time.

{{{Backwoods_Sleuth}}}

371 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 4:50:30pm

re: #369 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m glad for you and your family. I think I missed the original post however - what happened to your step-son?

He collapsed while doing yardwork last week on Tuesday and hit his head on the pavement, which resulted in being airlifted to the hospital where they did a six-hour surgery to stop the bleeding in his brain. He’s been in a medically-induced coma since then.

372 gwangung  Aug 18, 2014 4:50:54pm

re: #357 danarchy

I think it is more likely he was falling over when he got hit in the head. The shot that went through his eye came out near his jaw and re-entered at his collar bone. Unless he was standing directly over him and shooting straight down I don’t see how that happens otherwise unless you have a weird ricochet. If he was standing close enough to shoot straight down like that I would assume there would be GSR all over him.

But I am not a forensics expert so I will shut up.

But probably not a bull rush, hm?

373 TedStriker  Aug 18, 2014 4:51:09pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just heard from youngest step-son.
He still can’t breathe on his own, but taking it a day at a time.

Thank goodness for small miracles.

374 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 4:51:27pm

National Guard to Crack Down Streets of Ferguson

i guess we’re back to nxonn and his lawn order

375 GeneJockey  Aug 18, 2014 4:52:56pm

re: #368 Pie-onist Overlord

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Same scenario if Mitt Romney’s President.

376 nines09  Aug 18, 2014 4:53:14pm

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s horrible. I do hope all is well in the long run.

377 ninja cat  Aug 18, 2014 4:53:39pm

re: #363 CuriousLurker

Thank you for all the info. I will go look into my settings and tweetdeck. I haven’t even tried it on my ipad yet. Funny thing about the email account. I am using an email account I never use, only because 2 of my other ones said I was already registered and I was not at that time. I emailed them about that but not really expecting an answer.

378 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 4:53:49pm

btw my 60th birthday has come and gone so i am now thoroughly enjoying being

Officially An Old Person

officially

379 whitebeach  Aug 18, 2014 4:53:51pm

re: #323 Shiplord Kirel

Katrina pretty much proved your point. Something like a third of the NOPD, a group that probably figures prominently in the wet dreams of the St. Louis County crowd, simply bailed out. Many of the rest engaged in outright theft, racist quasi-vigilantism, and lying about the massive threats they faced from the relative handful of citizens remaining in a drowned city.

380 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 4:55:31pm

re: #378 dog philosopher

btw my 60th birthday has come and gone so i am now thoroughly enjoying being

Officially An Old Person

officially

Happy (Belated) Brithday!

381 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 4:56:07pm

re: #367 allegro

Does Captain Johnson have ANY authority here? Or is he on the FPD side after all?

Can’t tell but he is completely ineffectual at this point, unable to stop the agitators or control the local cops either one.

382 danarchy  Aug 18, 2014 4:56:14pm

re: #372 gwangung

But probably not a bull rush, hm?

probably not unless you think all the eyewitnesses are wrong.

383 simoom  Aug 18, 2014 4:57:20pm

Russia Today’s creepy NYC ad campaign:

Catnip for gullible westerners.

384 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 4:58:01pm

re: #378 dog philosopher

btw my 60th birthday has come and gone so i am now thoroughly enjoying being

Officially An Old Person

officially

I would have baked you a pie!

385 allegro  Aug 18, 2014 4:58:11pm

re: #381 Shiplord Kirel

Can’t tell but he is completely ineffectual at this point, unable to stop the agitators or control the local cops either one.

Since I was understanding that he was placed in charge by Gov. Nixon, it doesn’t say much about the gov’s authority neither.

386 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 4:58:21pm

re: #380 CuriousLurker

Happy (Belated) Brithday!

thank you!

i hear that birthdays are good for you since it’s been shown statistically that people with the most birthdays tend to live longer

387 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 4:59:18pm

re: #384 Pie-onist Overlord

I would have baked you a pie!

:-) :-) :-)

thank you!!!

i must try and see how many birthdays it’s possible to have in one year!

388 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 4:59:56pm

re: #383 simoom

Russia Today’s creepy NYC ad campaign:

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What happens when the ‘second opinion’ comes from an outright propaganda crew?

When the word ‘diversity’ means ‘including lies’, it’s being misused.

389 simoom  Aug 18, 2014 5:00:04pm
390 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 5:00:06pm

re: #383 simoom

Russia Today’s creepy NYC ad campaign:

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Like no American media or politicians questioned Bush’s case. They were unsuccessful in making their own case, but I hardly think the Kremlin propaganda rag Russia Today could have done, or did do, any better.

391 Jenner7  Aug 18, 2014 5:01:29pm

re: #383 simoom

It shouldn’t be a matter of opinion in media, it should be a matter of FACT.

392 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 5:05:17pm
393 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 5:07:54pm

re: #378 dog philosopher

btw my 60th birthday has come and gone so i am now thoroughly enjoying being

Officially An Old Person

officially

As an experienced old person (65) I advise you to learn and practice the official rituals: Doddering around the grocery store turning packages over and over looking for something, finding out where the nearest restroom is as soon as you enter a new place, and (most importantly) leaning out the door occasionally and screaming “Get off my lawn, you goddamn punks!”

394 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 5:09:04pm

I get the feeling that Captain Johnson is basically sent out to push the agenda given to him by his superiors, much as Colin Powell (seen above in the RT ad) was sent out to be the face of the Bush administration.

BTW, it’s pretty fucked up (read: appeal to racism) for RT to use a picture of the only black man in a position of authority in the rush to war in Iraq instead of, say, Bush or Cheney, or hundreds of other prominent white people who pushed for the war.

395 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 5:09:19pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great news Backwoods_Sleuth, continued prayers and good vibes being sent your way.

396 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 5:10:24pm

re: #393 Shiplord Kirel

As an experienced old person (65) I advise you to learn and practice the official rituals: Doddering around the grocery store turning packages over and over looking for something, finding out where the nearest restroom is as soon as you enter a new place, and (most importantly) leaning out the door occasionally and screaming “Get off my lawn, you goddamn punks!”

:-)

i have already been getting a lot of work out of the old In My Day We Did It This Way

397 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:10:36pm
398 klys  Aug 18, 2014 5:11:09pm

re: #396 dog philosopher

:-)

i have already been getting a lot of work out of the old In My Day We Did It This Way

What, you mean actually commented code and used whitespace properly?

///

399 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:11:13pm

re: #393 Shiplord Kirel

As an experienced old person (65) I advise you to learn and practice the official rituals: Doddering around the grocery store turning packages over and over looking for something, finding out where the nearest restroom is as soon as you enter a new place, and (most importantly) leaning out the door occasionally and screaming “Get off my lawn, you goddamn punks!”

How about fumbling for exact change at the checkout when there’s a long line of young people? That’s one of my favorites (-:

400 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 5:12:08pm

re: #392 Lidane

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Damn, he deleted it. I liked it.

401 allegro  Aug 18, 2014 5:13:52pm

re: #399 urbanmeemaw

How about fumbling for exact change at the checkout when there’s a long line of young people? That’s one of my favorites (-:

I like to insist on being carded when I buy wine at the grocery store. :D

402 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 5:13:58pm

re: #397 jaunte

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This is the point at which (in the old days) everybody would sit down and all get arrested and the jails would overflow and the courts would get clogged up….

But they’ve spent the last 50 years building a SHITLOAD of jails.

403 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:14:53pm

re: #402 wrenchwench

See, the system is working!

404 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 5:15:33pm

re: #398 klys

What, you mean actually commented code and used whitespace properly?

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seriously, recently i had to give a lesson in the (apparently) archaic practice of debugging by writing to the console!

405 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 5:15:54pm

re: #383 simoom

Russia Today’s creepy NYC ad campaign:

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This dovetails perfectly with the common RWNJ claim that major media in this country are “state controlled.” Rush Limbaugh has popularized this description. He will claim this is facetious but many people in my experience believe it literally.

406 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:16:07pm

re: #399 urbanmeemaw

How about fumbling for exact change at the checkout when there’s a long line of young people? That’s one of my favorites (-:

And questioning some item on the receipt!

407 CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2014 5:17:06pm
408 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 5:17:24pm
409 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 18, 2014 5:17:37pm

re: #394 Shvaughn

BTW, it’s pretty fucked up (read: appeal to racism) for RT to use a picture of the only black man in a position of authority in the rush to war in Iraq instead of, say, Bush or Cheney, or hundreds of other prominent white people who pushed for the war.

Well, there was also Condi Rice, IIRC, but she wasn’t a man.

410 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:18:06pm

re: #402 wrenchwench

But they’ve spent the last 50 years building a SHITLOAD of jails.

And then there’s all those empty FEMA camps, waiting to be filled….

411 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 5:18:54pm

An idiot Time reporter is tweeting a photo of the NG standing on the roof and calling them snipers.
good grief.

412 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 5:19:36pm

Scott Olson…

413 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 5:19:56pm

re: #402 wrenchwench

This is the point at which (in the old days) everybody would sit down and all get arrested and the jails would overflow and the courts would get clogged up….

But they’ve spent the last 50 years building a SHITLOAD of jails.

Ferguson’s messing with their own income stream.

Court fees.

414 lawhawk  Aug 18, 2014 5:20:24pm

re: #392 Lidane

Why kill when you can overkill.

415 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 5:20:54pm

re: #404 dog philosopher

You mean people still do that?

Since I discovered Javascript’s “debugger” command, I never do that any more. Pops you right into the Web Inspector at that point in the code, where you can check variable values, step through functions, etc.

416 klys  Aug 18, 2014 5:22:02pm

re: #415 Charles Johnson

I can think of multiple situations where you don’t have access to the debugger.

Husband works on set-top boxes for TV.

417 Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2014 5:25:48pm

re: #416 klys

The coolest feature in the latest versions of Safari is the remote Web Inspector that lets you debug web pages in the iPhone version of Safari, using the desktop version as the debugger. It’s freaking awesome - was invaluable for creating the responsive mobile version of LGF.

418 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 18, 2014 5:25:54pm

re: #322 EPR-radar

Table 42 relates to perceived race of offender, and has a strange looking 0% for white offender and black victim that is presumably what the wingnut is derping about. That result is flagged with an * for small sample size, so this is hardly “case closed”.

To maintain the 0% figure you also have to assume that none of the offenders in the 25.2% “Perceived race of offender not known or not available” was white.

419 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:25:57pm

Evening again, Lizardim.

420 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:26:09pm
421 klys  Aug 18, 2014 5:27:20pm

re: #404 dog philosopher

seriously, recently i had to give a lesson in the (apparently) archaic practice of debugging by writing to the console!

I shared this anecdote with the husband and he considers that pretty embarrassing.

For whoever you had to teach.

422 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:27:32pm

re: #406 Pie-onist Overlord

Yes!!! Or “forgetting” something and having to run back to aisle 6. Or arguing over an expired coupon….

MY PEOPLE!!!! I HAVE FOUND YOU!!!!!

423 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 5:28:21pm

:P

424 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 5:28:55pm

re: #420 freetoken

Not completely unrelated:

America’s Christian conservatives ponder a ‘Babylonian exile’

They’re moving to Iraq? I volunteer to drive some to the airport if they need a ride.

425 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:29:08pm

re: #421 klys

I shared this anecdote with the husband and he considers that pretty embarrassing.

For whoever you had to teach.

Wait, there are people out there who have never done this before? All of a sudden, I feel … old.

426 Hyped Up On Ganja  Aug 18, 2014 5:29:21pm

WTF? How did the Ferguson situation get out of control again. It was going so well. What happened?
I have been out of the loop a few days.

427 klys  Aug 18, 2014 5:29:56pm

re: #425 thedopefishlives

Wait, there are people out there who have never done this before? All of a sudden, I feel … old.

Shhh, don’t tell dog philosopher, because if we start saying that he may implode.

428 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:30:00pm

re: #426 Hyped Up On Ganja

WTF? How did the Ferguson situation get out of control again. It was going so well. What happened?
I have been out of the loop a few days.

Ferguson PD and StL. Co. PD both fanned the flames by publishing a bunch of bullshit. People responded predictably, and the police used that as an excuse to bring the hammer down again.

429 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:30:23pm

re: #426 Hyped Up On Ganja

The Earth turned and it was another day, but not in Ferguson.

430 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:30:47pm

That would be a good start to a novel, reading back on it.

431 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 5:30:50pm

re: #415 Charles Johnson

You mean people still do that?

Since I discovered Javascript’s “debugger” command, I never do that any more. Pops you right into the Web Inspector at that point in the code, where you can check variable values, step through functions, etc.

this was a situation where a OEM sent us a driver DLL written it seems originally in C#. it malfunctioned in our environment but they were unable to reproduce the problems - a number of problems - locally

they asked to remote in to our machines to debug but of course you can’t step through a debugger under those circumstances. i sat there watching them attempt to use some esoteric .net tools to pin down the crash points, with no success whatsoever

i then asked them ‘why don’t you guys write some debugging output into the code and send me that version to run here?”

they had never heard of such a thing, but they caught on and we got to the bottom of it quickly

432 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 5:31:12pm

re: #426 Hyped Up On Ganja

WTF? How did the Ferguson situation get out of control again. It was going so well. What happened?
I have been out of the loop a few days.

Another fabulous nic!

Tensions rose upon release/ leakage of autopsies. And National Guard being called in. And reporters being arrested. And people who stop walking being arrested. Stuff like that.

433 dog philosopher  Aug 18, 2014 5:31:26pm

re: #421 klys

I shared this anecdote with the husband and he considers that pretty embarrassing.

For whoever you had to teach.

:-) :-)

434 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:31:32pm

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great tourism bumper sticker:

“Ohio! We’re Not Missouri!”

435 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:31:59pm

re: #434 urbanmeemaw

Great tourism bumper sticker:

“Ohio! We’re Not Missouri!”

It’s about all they’ve got to go with.

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436 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:32:47pm

re: #430 freetoken

That would be a good start to a novel, reading back on it.

“It was the best of times, it was the KEEP MOVING, YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT BEING INFRINGED.”

437 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:32:51pm

Also not unrelated:

WILSON: NO ROOM FOR EVOLUTION IN ADVENTIST SCHOOLS

Seventh-day Adventist world church President Ted N. C. Wilson forcefully asserted that life has existed on the Earth for only a few thousand years, not millions of years, as he opened an educators conference in Utah on Friday, and he said teachers who believe otherwise should not call themselves Seventh-day Adventists or work in Church-operated schools.

Wilson spoke to a crowd of mainly teachers at the start of a 10-day international conference on the Bible and science in Las Vegas, Nevada, during the opening session of the conference, prior to traveling to St. George, Utah. The location was chosen for its easy access to three geological sites that the 350 participants will explore between conference sessions on archaeology, geology, paleontology and biology.

[…]

He cautioned against associating with scientists, humanists and “some who claim to be Seventh-day Adventists” who have embraced an evolution-based creation theory.

“Do not believe them nor participate in this manipulation of biblical truth regarding creation and the visible commemoration of creation—the Sabbath,” he told conference participants. “In essence, evolution is not a science.”

[…]

438 Hyped Up On Ganja  Aug 18, 2014 5:34:17pm

re: #430 freetoken

That would be a good start to a novel, reading back on it.

Yes it would!

439 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 5:34:34pm

re: #437 freetoken

Also not unrelated:

WILSON: NO ROOM FOR EVOLUTION IN ADVENTIST SCHOOLS

Someone should tell the old bastard he can go to hell for lying and, especially, for deceiving the young.

440 abolitionist  Aug 18, 2014 5:34:39pm

re: #425 thedopefishlives

Wait, there are people out there who have never done this before? All of a sudden, I feel … old.

I felt old when…
Visting my daughter at college, I mentioned to her roomy, “I was born before the transistor was invented.”
She replied, “What’s a transistor?”

441 Timothy Watson  Aug 18, 2014 5:35:12pm

re: #412 ausador

Scott Olson…

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That’s the Highway Patrol arresting him, right?

442 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:35:17pm

Point is, you have many fellow Americans who feel like they need to circle the wagons, and battle off the “others”.

The world is changing, and those who don’t want to change will lash out and, alternatively, go into retreat.

443 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:35:49pm

If your feeling of victimization causes you to suck up to evil people who hate your guts, you are lower than a turd (which serves a biological purpose)

444 b_sharp  Aug 18, 2014 5:37:07pm

re: #277 Pie-onist Overlord

Racists are so fucking dumb:
Statistical tables, how do they fucking work?

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They took a percentage (0%) from a table that says quite clearly the percentage is based on 10 or fewer sample cases.

445 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:37:10pm

re: #437 freetoken

What is the point of biblical literalists having a 10 day conference on science and the bible? In their view, the bible is everything and science is nothing.

Even for dim-witted creationists, that shouldn’t take 10 days to sink in. After all, creation of the entire universe only took six days. //

446 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:37:30pm

re: #440 abolitionist

I felt old when…
Visting my daughter at college, I mentioned to her roomy, “I was born before the transistor was invented.”
She replied, “What’s a transistor?”

I built a transistor radio when I was a kid. It was an awesome project.

447 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 5:38:23pm

re: #446 thedopefishlives

I built a transistor radio when I was a kid. It was an awesome project.

Got one better: I built a crystal (galena) radio. Major coolness.

448 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2014 5:38:34pm

re: #440 abolitionist

I felt old when…
Visting my daughter at college, I mentioned to her roomy, “I was born before the transistor was invented.”
She replied, “What’s a transistor?”

I was born the year after the transistor was invented which, in turn, happened the year after the Roswell UFO crash. Not that I’m suggesting these events were related in any way.

449 Hyped Up On Ganja  Aug 18, 2014 5:38:34pm

re: #437 freetoken

Geezus. It’s going to get to the point where all you need to get a job as a teacher at a Christian school is a GED from homeschooling and a passion for negligence.

450 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:38:38pm

re: #412 ausador

re: #443 Pie-onist Overlord

If your feeling of victimization causes you to suck up to evil people who hate your guts, you are lower than a turd (which serves a biological purpose)

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Gee, Ben. Why don’t you put that on a refrigerator magnet? That’s so deep.

451 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 5:38:59pm

re: #399 urbanmeemaw

How about fumbling for exact change at the checkout when there’s a long line of young people? That’s one of my favorites (-:

I like being behind someone who makes the checker issue a credit then re-ring their entire shopping cart because they forgot to use a coupon, then argue because they didn’t get the “buy four” price for only buying one.

It’s a great way to start the day.

452 goddamnedfrank  Aug 18, 2014 5:39:37pm

re: #444 b_sharp

They took a percentage (0%) from a table that says quite clearly the percentage is based on 10 or fewer sample cases.

The number of black on white they extrapolated was also from an asterisked percentage based on 10 or fewer sample cases.

453 b_sharp  Aug 18, 2014 5:40:15pm

re: #307 Pie-onist Overlord

If you actually open the PDF and look for the table, it’s about the race of the victim, nothing about the race of the perp. All it means is there were no victims who identified as being of two or more races.

I took a look at the entire 2008 report.

The 0 figure is based on a percentage that is itself based on 10 or fewer sample cases.

454 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 5:40:43pm

re: #440 abolitionist

I felt old when…
Visting my daughter at college, I mentioned to her roomy, “I was born before the transistor was invented.”
She replied, “What’s a transistor?”

Tell her there are millions of them in her computer’s processor, it is just that they are too small to see with the naked eye now instead of being the size of the end of your pinkie.

455 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 5:40:50pm

re: #445 EPR-radar

What is the point of biblical literalists having a 10 day conference on science and the bible? In their view, the bible is everything and science is nothing.

Even for dim-witted creationists, that shouldn’t take 10 days to sink in. After all, creation of the entire universe only took six days. //

They need time to visit the strip clubs.

456 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:40:55pm

re: #451 Skip Intro

I like being behind someone who makes the checker issue a credit then re-ring their entire shopping cart because they forgot to use a coupon, then argue because they didn’t get the “buy four” price for only buying one.

It’s a great way to start the day.

Some people have the talent for making simple commercial transactions take an incredible amount of time. I’m much happier when practitioners of that art do it far away from me.

457 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:41:07pm

re: #453 b_sharp

I took a look at the entire 2008 report.

The 0 figure is based on a percentage that is itself based on 10 or fewer sample cases.

Fucking statistical samples, how do they work?

458 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:41:35pm

re: #437 freetoken

“…He cautioned against associating with scientists, humanists and “some who claim to be Seventh-day Adventists” who have embraced an evolution-based creation theory.”

Sounds very cultish.

459 klys  Aug 18, 2014 5:41:44pm

re: #448 Shiplord Kirel

I was born the year after the transistor was invented which, in turn, happened the year after the Roswell UFO crash. Not that I’m suggesting these events were related in any way.

I grew up not too far from the labs where the transistor was invented. Dad worked there, even.

What happened to Bell Labs is one of those depressing examples of how our appreciation for science and research has disappeared in favor of short term gains. *sigh*

460 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 18, 2014 5:42:09pm

re: #440 abolitionist

I felt old when…
Visting my daughter at college, I mentioned to her roomy, “I was born before the transistor was invented.”
She replied, “What’s a transistor?”

Don’t tell her about tubes!

461 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:42:30pm

re: #451 Skip Intro

I like being behind someone who makes the checker issue a credit then re-ring their entire shopping cart because they forgot to use a coupon, then argue because they didn’t get the “buy four” price for only buying one.

It’s a great way to start the day.

That happened last week, the lady in front of me on line had her entire order rung up, EBT card swiped and THEN handed her coupons.

The cashier had to void the entire order and ring it all up again.

462 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:42:42pm

re: #454 ausador

Tell her there are millions of them in her computer’s processor, it is just that they are too small to see with the naked eye now instead of being the size of the end of your pinkie.

When you look at a single transistor, 99+% of what you see is the package.

463 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 5:43:55pm

re: #461 Pie-onist Overlord

I got stuck behind one of those extreme coupon people.
I just left my entire loaded cart where it was and left the store.

464 Hyped Up On Ganja  Aug 18, 2014 5:44:08pm

re: #461 Pie-onist Overlord

That damn Honey Boo Boo!

465 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:45:27pm

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got stuck behind one of those extreme coupon people.
I just left my entire loaded cart where it was and left the store.

Mrs. Fish asked me to help her do extreme couponing, “just once”. I told her I was absolutely against being that guy at the grocery store, and left it at that.

466 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 5:45:42pm

re: #461 Pie-onist Overlord

That happened last week, the lady in front of me on line had her entire order rung up, EBT card swiped and THEN handed her coupons.

The cashier had to void the entire order and ring it all up again.

Sometimes I’m lucky enough to get a twofer by going to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription, only to be fourth in line behind a person who has decided to tell the clerk what they’ve been doing for the past six months.

467 wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2014 5:45:42pm
468 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:46:32pm

re: #458 jaunte

Sounds very cultish.

You mean, when Wilson says:

[…]

Regarding origins, the powerful, heavenly inspired book Patriarchs and Prophets, pages 111, 112, indicates, […]

A church employee who teaches theistic or pure evolutionary theory should not even exist in a Seventh-day Adventist school or church pulpit.

And the first comment on Wilson’s official transcript is:

Cellophane • 7 hours ago
The church is responsible for maintaining the purity of its message. Dismissing teachers who cannot promote the full Biblical truth is the kind of control God expects by the church. We do not control anyone’s conscience, but we should control the membership to include those who promote the fundamental truths

Is that what you mean by “cult”?

469 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:46:41pm

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got stuck behind one of those extreme coupon people.
I just left my entire loaded cart where it was and left the store.

Coupons are basically irritating. It’s a pretty close to a tax levied on people that don’t spend all their time (and plenty of other people’s time) screwing around with coupons.

470 austin_blue  Aug 18, 2014 5:47:04pm

re: #8 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Back when I got hyped up on marijuana, I went for the Nacho Cheese Doritos and Dr. Pepper. But then, I wasn’t an 18-year old unarmed black kid who took the last round in the top of the head that exited my eye.

So it was completely different, and this kid was an evildoer who deserved to die.

/ (Not enough keystrokes to do that racist meme justice. That child was murdered, dead bang.)

471 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:47:19pm

Gee Ben why is that. You’d think that some offices are designated foreign relations & other offices are designated domestic relations. Did you not take Civics in high school?

472 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:47:23pm

re: #466 Skip Intro

Sometimes I’m lucky enough to get a twofer by going to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription, only to be fourth in line behind a person who has decided to tell the clerk what they’ve been doing for the past six months.

Autobiographical commerce. Particularly annoying at a tollbooth.

473 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 5:47:27pm

re: #451 Skip Intro

I like being behind someone who makes the checker issue a credit then re-ring their entire shopping cart because they forgot to use a coupon, then argue because they didn’t get the “buy four” price for only buying one.

It’s a great way to start the day.

This is why you never get in line with my brother in law, he invariably, always, gets delayed forever in line by some kind of problem ahead of him. It is some kind of curse or something…

I have learned when out buying BBQ supplies or whatever with him to take my stuff to a different line. Not that it matters much because then I end up waiting anyway. I thought my sister was stretching the truth when she joked about it early in their marriage, but nope, it is real.

474 bratwurst  Aug 18, 2014 5:48:33pm

re: #469 EPR-radar

Coupons are basically irritating.

I am not irritated with the $250+ I save every single year in the slightest.

475 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:49:22pm

re: #471 Pie-onist Overlord

Gee Ben why is that. You’d think that some offices are designated foreign relations & other offices are designated domestic relations. Did you not take Civics in high school?

[Embedded content]

Damn, that is truly stupid, even for a wingnut pundit knuckle-dragger oxygen-thief like Ben Shapiro.

476 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 5:49:49pm

Amazing how all the news is giving credence to the only narrative of the cop. A friend of a friend to a radio show.

Really?

NPR even. Gah.

477 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:50:08pm

re: #461 Pie-onist Overlord

Was the lady old? Because if she was young, that would have been annoying, and not funny.

478 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:50:14pm

re: #468 freetoken

Mostly the “don’t talk to or associate with anyone who doesn’t believe as we do” part.

479 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:50:47pm

re: #469 EPR-radar

Coupons are basically irritating. It’s a pretty close to a tax levied on people that don’t spend all their time (and plenty of other people’s time) screwing around with coupons.

My mother-in-law, back in the ‘70’s, belonged to this “coupon club” (scam) that did some shady stuff. Basically she clipped coupons and then turned them in to a “coupon broker” and got cash back even though she didn’t buy anything.

480 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 5:51:00pm

re: #475 EPR-radar

Damn, that is truly stupid, even for a wingnut pundit knuckle-dragger oxygen-thief like Ben Shapiro.

This whole incident is dragging out the deepest levels of stupid from the depths of our favorite Internet idiots.

481 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:51:13pm

re: #477 urbanmeemaw

Was the lady old? Because if she was young, that would have been annoying, and not funny.

It was very annoying, and she was 40’ish.

482 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 5:51:24pm

re: #409 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Well, there was also Condi Rice, IIRC, but she wasn’t a man.

Yeah, that was my point — only black man. And using it at a time when the current president is a black man.

483 Belafon  Aug 18, 2014 5:52:06pm

re: #471 Pie-onist Overlord

I vote that Obama sends Ben to Ukraine.

484 nsmith25  Aug 18, 2014 5:52:27pm

re: #471 Pie-onist Overlord

Gee Ben why is that. You’d think that some offices are designated foreign relations & other offices are designated domestic relations. Did you not take Civics in high school?

[Embedded content]

American Government; how does it work?///

As I prepare my lessons to teach American Government to High Schoolers. Wow what a dumbass.

485 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:52:38pm

re: #474 bratwurst

I am not irritated with the $250+ I save every single year in the slightest.

Fair enough. However, if you spend 24 hours in the year on coupon management, that works out to a bit more than $10 an hour.

486 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 5:52:41pm

How come his crazed nutcase reporter didn’t get in trouble?

487 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 5:52:47pm

re: #478 jaunte

The SDA are one of those fundamentalist off-shoots that other fundamentalists believe are a bit looney. Not because of the creationism thing, but because of the founder and her special books.

It’s all a part of that tapestry which is hyper-religious America, a left over from the 17th century founding of this thing we call “America”.

488 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:52:58pm

re: #472 EPR-radar

Autobiographical commerce. Particularly annoying at a tollbooth.

Especially at a border crossing.

489 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 5:53:52pm

re: #475 EPR-radar

Damn, that is truly stupid, even for a wingnut pundit knuckle-dragger oxygen-thief like Ben Shapiro.

Too bad Ben doesn’t tell us who should be handling these foreign and domestic duties. Damn Twitter and its 140 character limit! I’m sure Ben has it all figured out, but just couldn’t fit it in.

490 Shvaughn  Aug 18, 2014 5:54:01pm

re: #471 Pie-onist Overlord

Gee Ben why is that. You’d think that some offices are designated foreign relations & other offices are designated domestic relations. Did you not take Civics in high school?

[Embedded content]

There literally is nothing that the President could do which this man would not hate.

If he went himself, Ben would complain as well. If he ignored it, Ben would complain.

491 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:54:10pm

re: #471 Pie-onist Overlord

this sucks

With precise criticism like that, watch out Pulitzer.

492 b.d.  Aug 18, 2014 5:54:23pm

re: #486 b.d.

How come his crazed nutcase reporter didn’t get in trouble?

[Embedded content]

Oh, and, btw Ferguson a false flag in case you didn’t know.
//
:P

493 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 18, 2014 5:54:31pm

SHE IS NOT A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR!!!
Adorbs 90-year-old granny, mmkay. Sucks that she lied about the Holocaust.

494 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:55:26pm

re: #473 ausador

Erma Bombeck wrote a piece about her poor line choices. So one week when she went to confession she got in line in back of a priest, thinking that would be an easy-peasey slam dunk. When the priest failed to come out after about 20 minutes, she figured she was behind the one priest who decided to leave the priesthood and get married.

495 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 5:55:27pm

re: #491 jaunte

With precise criticism like that, watch out Pulitzer.

On the other hand “this sucks” is perhaps the politest way one can express the core message of US movement conservatism.

496 bratwurst  Aug 18, 2014 5:55:48pm

re: #485 EPR-radar

Fair enough. However, if you spend 24 hours in the year on coupon management, that works out to a bit more than $10 an hour.

I spend about 5 minutes every Sunday going through whatever is in that weeks paper and another 10 minutes per month online with my store loyalty program. That works out to more like 6 hours per year. $40 an hour? Why, yes please.

497 austin_blue  Aug 18, 2014 5:56:51pm

re: #487 freetoken

The SDA are one of those fundamentalist off-shoots that other fundamentalists believe are a bit looney. Not because of the creationism thing, but because of the founder and her special books.

It’s all a part of that tapestry which is hyper-religious America, a left over from the 17th century founding of this thing we call “America”.

A quibble. America was founded in the 1770’s and 1780’s, a time when religion held little sway over the intellectual community. It didn’t come roaring back as a social force until The Great Enlightenment, which gave us lots of Baptists and Revivals.

Praise the Lord and Little Baby Jesus.

498 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:57:12pm

re: #495 EPR-radar

He’s gripped the zeitgeist.

499 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 5:57:30pm

re: #481 Pie-onist Overlord

A rank amateur.

500 Lidane  Aug 18, 2014 5:58:00pm
501 jaunte  Aug 18, 2014 5:58:08pm
502 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 5:58:31pm

Apparently Captain Johnson is now in command of the National Guard, and the FAA has extended flight restrictions over Ferguson to Aug 25. Nothing below 3000 feet.

503 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2014 5:59:32pm

Every photo I am seeing of police in Ferguson today, not a single officer is wearing a badge, much less a name tag.

504 thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2014 6:00:32pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every photo I am seeing of police in Ferguson today, not a single officer is wearing a badge, much less a name tag.

Nope. When one commits civil and human rights violations, one does not want to be identified.

505 urbanmeemaw  Aug 18, 2014 6:00:53pm

re: #498 jaunte

That’s a polite way of putting it.

506 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 6:00:54pm

re: #497 austin_blue

A quibble. Americas was founded in the 1770’s and 1780’s, a time when religion held little sway over the intellectual community. It didn’t come roaring back as a social force until The Great Enlightenment, which gave us lots of Baptists and Revivals.

Praise the Lord and Little Baby Jesus.

On the other hand, some colonists that fled England supposedly because of religious persecution were actually peeved that the English authorities wouldn’t let them burn their neighbors at the stake because of witchcraft accusations.

The Great Awakening didn’t spring up out of nothing.

507 Kilroy01  Aug 18, 2014 6:00:56pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every photo I am seeing of police in Ferguson today, not a single officer is wearing a badge, much less a name tag.

FREEDOM!!
From accountability.

508 austin_blue  Aug 18, 2014 6:01:18pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every photo I am seeing of police in Ferguson today, not a single officer is wearing a badge, much less a name tag.

Show me your ID, peasant! Yield to my A-thor-itay!

509 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 18, 2014 6:01:44pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course. How more clearly can you evoke the attitude that you are the decider and that the public=criminals are worthless, and unworthy of information.

510 EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2014 6:02:41pm

re: #509 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Of course. How more clearly can you evoke the attitude that you are the decider and that the public=criminals are worthless, and unworthy of information.

Don’t mess with the man with no ID.

511 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 6:02:58pm

2 tweets from earlier in the day that have stuck w me.

512 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 6:04:09pm

re: #509 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Of course. How more clearly can you evoke the attitude that you are the decider and that the public=criminals are worthless, and unworthy of information.

It also makes it all but impossible for a victim to accurately identify a cop who goes over the line. The Council of White Citizens who run Ferguson have it all figured out.

513 abolitionist  Aug 18, 2014 6:05:23pm

re: #508 austin_blue

Show me your ID, peasant! Yield to my A-thor-itay!

This is the Showme state, so show me yours and I’ll show you mine.
.
.
.
Stop shooting meeee!

514 ausador  Aug 18, 2014 6:07:22pm
515 austin_blue  Aug 18, 2014 6:07:33pm

re: #506 EPR-radar

On the other hand, some colonists that fled England supposedly because of religious persecution were actually peeved that the English authorities wouldn’t let them burn their neighbors at the stake because of witchcraft accusations.

The Great Awakening didn’t spring up out of nothing.

Yeah, well a century and a half of not burning witches does have a moderating affect!

516 Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2014 6:09:40pm

Ex-police chief Kessler is outraged over how things are being handled in Ferguson.

The floor is yours, ex-chief.

About time the TRUTH comes out about the piece of shit THUG who comitted STRONG ARM ROBBERY in Missouri !!!! The THUG then charged a police office trying and take his service weapon ! Well well well ! So now the the alleged peaceful protestors LOOTED the very store our Prince Charming THUG robed !!!! Seriously these so called Americans are nothing but THUGS looking for handouts and if they don’t get their FREE HANDOUTS they just take at will , but that’s perfectly ok according to OVOMIT , HOLDER , liberal media & liberal politicians , I wanna know WHY a sitting president of the United States is interfering with a local police matter ? Why OVOMIT ordered ERIC the THUG HOLDER to directly interfear with a LOCAL POLICE MATTER ? Holder does not have any jurisdiction in this case NONE, or any jurisdiction over local police their !!!! NONE ! Local police should tell holder , OVOMIT , to get lost ! Or arrest both for obstruction , interfering with an investigation, abuse of office, intimidation against a victim or witness, This is truly an outrage

517 Snarknado!  Aug 18, 2014 6:10:57pm

re: #378 dog philosopher

btw my 60th birthday has come and gone so i am now thoroughly enjoying being

Officially An Old Person

officially

Happy happy!

I turned 60 last year, and how could I complain, since it made me officially OLD ENOUGH TO RETIRE! (Which I did.)

518 b_sharp  Aug 18, 2014 6:11:30pm

I screwed up.

519 austin_blue  Aug 18, 2014 6:12:36pm

re: #516 Skip Intro

Ex-police chief Kessler is outraged over how things are being handled in Ferguson.

The floor is yours, ex-chief.

Oh for the love of Dog, what a reactionary asshole.

520 freetoken  Aug 18, 2014 6:13:08pm

re: #497 austin_blue

The Elites in the Colonies involved in nation-building may have been not so religious, but the colonists on the whole, having already been through the “awakenings” and settling of European religious fanatics , were religious, to very religious.

Then yes, later, there was an explosion of new sects (Mormonism, JW, SDA, etc.) in the rapidly growing United States, that then carried on the religiosity though with variations of teachings and practices.

The apple really hasn’t fallen far from the tree.

521 Mike Lamb  Aug 18, 2014 6:16:07pm

re: #516 Skip Intro

Yee-ikes.

522 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2014 6:16:24pm

re: #502 Skip Intro

… the FAA has extended flight restrictions over Ferguson to Aug 25. Nothing below 3000 feet.

There needs to be an appeal process for that. Let the media fly.

523 danarchy  Aug 18, 2014 6:20:41pm

Ferguson Police Training video parody:

Youtube Video

524 becominginvisible  Aug 18, 2014 6:20:53pm

re: #522 Rightwingconspirator

Newsy bit on fox2now web site ‘Ferguson Flight restrictions extended for news helicopters’. Seems as if they feel singled out….

525 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 6:29:07pm

re: #518 b_sharp

I screwed up.

eh? what did I miss?

526 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 6:29:51pm

re: #519 austin_blue

Oh for the love of Dog, what a reactionary asshole.

He’s trying to get a job on some RWNJ something or other. But actually, I think that guy is poison to all above options.

527 Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2014 6:30:15pm

dead thread! go me!

528 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 18, 2014 6:46:54pm

re: #430 freetoken

That would be a good start to a novel, reading back on it.

Poem. Possible start on the first and into the second line of a sonnet… Hmm…

529 b_sharp  Aug 18, 2014 6:50:37pm

re: #525 Stanley Sea

eh? what did I miss?

I responded to that racist tweet above but missed a calculation. By the time I redid it, everyone moved on to a different thread.

Rape & attempted rapes in 2008
White on white = 59235
White on black = 0 (estimate based on 10 or fewer sample cases)
Black on white = 12970 (estimate based on 10 or fewer sample cases)
Black on black = 14885 (estimate based on 10 or fewer sample cases)

530 alpuz  Aug 18, 2014 6:53:02pm

Good night, folks. I’m gonna leave this from a band I enjoy:

Youtube Video

531 prairiefire  Aug 18, 2014 6:55:36pm

re: #378 dog philosopher

btw my 60th birthday has come and gone so i am now thoroughly enjoying being

Officially An Old Person

officially

Nahhh, not you!

532 alpuz  Aug 18, 2014 6:57:15pm

dead thread again. scroll down dammit!

533 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 11:40:41pm

re: #482 Shvaughn

Yeah, that was my point — only black man. And using it at a time when the current president is a black man.

This only black man happened to be the “face” of the US in the UN. The one who made the case for the invasion before the whole world. The image has long ago become iconic. Its use is fully legitimate and non-racist as such.

PS: of course, the fact that it was used by RT sucks, and that RT seems to have chosen to distort Powell’s facial features sucks, but those are different issues.


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