Jim Hoft’s Unsourced Claim That Officer Darren Wilson Had an “Orbital Blowout Fracture of the Eye Socket”

A few problems in the dumbest man on the Internet’s narrative
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The entire right wing universe (including Drudge Report) is now screaming about this post by, yes, the Dumbest Man on the Internet again, claiming that anonymous sources told him officer Darren Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket” in a struggle with unarmed teenager Michael Brown: BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack | the Gateway Pundit.

It’s possible that someone did leak this information to Hoft, but I’ll remind my readers that Jim Hoft is probably the single most dishonest right wing blogger on the Internet as well as the dumbest, with a very long history of distorting facts and completely making stuff up to push his far right, often overtly racist agenda.

And there are some things to consider about Hoft’s claims this time as well, before lending them credibility they probably don’t deserve.

Here are the symptoms of an orbital blowout fracture:

The most common symptoms are bruising, tenderness and swelling around the eye; redness of the eye; double vision, ordiplopia (seeing two images at the same time); numbness of the cheek, nose or teeth; nose bleeds (epistaxis) [See figure 1].

Symptoms that typically indicate a more serious injury are pain on eye movement, double vision, air under the skin around the eye, and numbness of the cheek/mouth/nose on the side of the injury. Severe trauma may cause facial bone fractures, injury to the eye itself, and injuries to the skull/brain.

In the video taken by an eyewitness immediately after the shooting, officer Darren Wilson is seen walking calmly around the body with no signs of discomfort or injury, even though by this time he would have been in very serious pain.

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Also, no ambulance was called for Wilson, and no first aid was administered by other officers, which seems odd if he had indeed suffered this type of serious injury — or any injury at all.

And there’s more evidence that Hoft is trying to pull a fast one again; here is the original image posted at the AAPOS site, showing a CT scan of a blowout fracture (on the left), compared to the image posted at Gateway Pundit by Hoft (on the right):

Original example CT scan (L), compared to altered image posted by Jim Hoft (R)

Notice the difference? In the version posted by Jim Hoft, the text at bottom right that says “UNIV OF IOWA” has been crudely erased. Caught you, Jim.

Was Hoft trying to mislead his readers into thinking this was the actual X-ray (or CT scan) of Darren Wilson? His text does not make it clear it wasn’t Wilson’s CT scan — and the words “UNIV OF IOWA” have been blacked out, quite deliberately.

If Hoft’s intent was to mislead, it worked. All over Twitter and right wing blogs, the wingnuts are raving about “Darren Wilson’s X-ray” that shows a fractured eye socket — but this is just a generic example image of an unknown person’s CT scan.

Time will tell if Wilson is going to claim he had this type of injury, but nobody should take Jim Hoft’s word for it.

And one more point while I’m at it; Hoft writes:

This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

If that’s true, it’s highly disturbing that the St. Louis prosecutor’s office and the St. Louis County police department are leaking information to a far right hateblogger known for his unrelenting dishonesty, who uses a white supremacist hate group as a source.

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518 comments

1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2014 5:49:02pm

And he left the “Fig. 2 CT scan” legend at lower left.
Straight from the textbook where the illustration was used.

2 Kragar  Aug 19, 2014 5:49:04pm
3 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 5:49:46pm

Keep up the good fight, Charles. I really hope that in the end, these lying cretins will be exposed once and for all and never heard from again.

4 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 5:50:03pm

This BS is spreading around Teh Twitters faster than last month’s bogus story about the SIX STAR RESORT FOR ILLEGALS!!!!!!!

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 5:51:09pm

UPDATE: Dim Jim has found the real X-Ray!!

6 elizajane  Aug 19, 2014 5:51:38pm

It’s not just this leak — it’s the whole incredibly unprofessional drip, drip, drip from the police department of information that would seem to exonerate the officer or somehow justify shooting an unarmed man. It not only keeps the story going, especially for those on the right, it continually angers those who had supported Brown’s right not to be executed.

An absolutely terrible way for “law enforcement” to act, blatantly building their own case to the court of public opinion in the most manipulative way.

7 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 5:53:27pm
8 alpuz  Aug 19, 2014 5:53:57pm

There was a PR firm hired, correct? Well look at that.

9 wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2014 5:55:34pm

re: #7 jaunte

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I suppose it’s my own problem that I read it as #ISIS.

Although space might be a good place for them.

10 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 5:56:29pm
If that’s true, it’s highly disturbing that the St. Louis prosecutor’s office and the St. Louis County police department are leaking information to a far right right blogger known for his unrelenting dishonesty/blockquote>

Seeing how the alleged prosecutor of Wilson sounds more like his defense attorney in the Shaun King tweets, it’s entirely possible that his office could have leaked this info to DimJim.

11 TedStriker  Aug 19, 2014 5:56:45pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

I suppose it’s my own problem that I read it as #ISIS.

Although space might be a good place for them.

As in, “the near-vacuum of space”.

12 majii  Aug 19, 2014 5:57:21pm

I find it strange that Wilson has broken his silence and is sending texts to his good friend Jake Shepard and none of the texts mention an orbital blowout fracture of the eye socket. In the texts, Wilson seems most concerned with his and his son’s safety. Shepard expressed his support for Wilson in a CNN appearance.

“The first text that Wilson sent to Shepard was on Friday after he spoke to CNN in a brief interview.”

“It read: ”Thanks buddy I wasn’t expecting that”. Shepard replied: ”No problem buddy, you deserve it.”

“Wilson replied: ”It means a lot thank you.”’

“The two then texted over the weekend and Darren explained that he cannot go out in public and that anyone wanting to reach him should leave their messages with the Ferguson police department.”

“On Monday Wilson texted: ‘The support is really keeping me going during this stressful time. Just stay safe. I appreciate all you have done’.”

dailymail.co.uk

13 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 5:58:32pm
14 Stanley Sea  Aug 19, 2014 5:58:39pm

re: #6 elizajane

It’s not just this leak — it’s the whole incredibly unprofessional drip, drip, drip from the police department of information that would seem to exonerate the officer or somehow justify shooting an unarmed man. It not only keeps the story going, especially for those on the right, it continually angers those who had supported Brown’s right not to be executed.

An absolutely terrible way for “law enforcement” to act, blatantly building their own case to the court of public opinion in the most manipulative way.

They are terribly fucking with the rule of law. The only thing that holds us together.

15 wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2014 5:59:45pm

re: #12 majii

I read that earlier. It’s disgusting.

And I’m pretty sure that if Wilson was hurt, he wouldn’t keep it to himself.

16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2014 5:59:50pm

This is why we push back, people need facts to push back on this stuff themselves:

17 Gus  Aug 19, 2014 6:01:37pm
18 bratwurst  Aug 19, 2014 6:01:58pm

Amen to this. I admit that I am not a fan of his in general…but certainly nothing he did last night is worthy of any kind of serious praise:

19 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:02:39pm
20 lawhawk  Aug 19, 2014 6:03:11pm
21 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:03:42pm
22 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:04:16pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Has Fixed ever picked up on a Dim Jim story? Serious question.

23 Interesting Times  Aug 19, 2014 6:05:13pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is why we push back, people need facts to push back on this stuff themselves:

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Couldn’t agree more. “Rising above the fray” instead of counteracting the rightwing lie machine is how it got to be so powerful in the first place (remember John Kerry and the Swiftboaters?? People WILL believe the stupidest, most outlandish and ridiculous lies if they’re repeated often enough without effective pushback)

24 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:05:59pm

Thank god tomorrow is not a family gathering. If so, I would have had to refute all of this bullshit.

25 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 6:06:27pm

re: #22 Kid A

Has Fixed ever picked up on a Dim Jim story? Serious question.

The whole resort for ill eagles was on Fox via Dim Jim.

26 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:06:28pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Sorry pal, but I can’t do it.

I do have the leading list of Fox stories on Ferguson from their web site.

27 alpuz  Aug 19, 2014 6:06:32pm

If a PR firm is in charge of Wilson’s dialogue. This whole thing is going to be scripted from here on out. The script is already making it’s way into the mainstream/right-wing blogs.

Outside agitators(commies) ‘working with the protesters’, a professional PR firm working with the establishment. Wilson playing the victim. Things are going to get uglier.

Hopefully people’s bullshit meters have been calibrated.

28 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:07:23pm

re: #26 Skip Intro

Puke.

29 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:07:32pm

re: #22 Kid A

Has Fixed ever picked up on a Dim Jim story? Serious question.

Yes, more than once. The most recent one was that “$50 million luxury resort hotel for illegal children” story.

30 majii  Aug 19, 2014 6:08:01pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

Yes, but if you ask them if their actions are f*cking with the rule of law, they’ll say no and get angry that you asked them about it. In their minds, they’re just protecting one of their own and anything they can do to take the heat off of him is justified. Imo, if anyone is politicizing and racializing Michael Brown’s death, it’s Hoft and the rest of Mouthbreathers, Inc. A young guy was killed by police in Salt Lake City recently, but he’s of no concern to them, yet, they’re among the first to ask why some of us don’t get upset when a young white male is killed by police. There have been protests in SLC in regard to Dillon Taylor and Michael Brown’s deaths. We are concerned about any police officer gunning anyone down in the streets of America, but they will never admit it. Their primary concern seems to be to politicize these kinds of incidents and inject racism into them if/when anyone expresses an opinion other than the one they support. They’ve been very busy calling President Obama, AG Holder, Sharpton and Jackson, Sr. ‘race hustlers’ because they give a damn about our increasingly militarized police forces.

inquisitr.com

31 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:08:49pm

This is why I keep on Hoft instead of ignoring the dimwitted asshole. His deceptive crap is often picked up by influential right wing sources and often makes it all the way to Fox News.

32 Stanley Sea  Aug 19, 2014 6:09:52pm

re: #23 Interesting Times

Couldn’t agree more. “Rising above the fray” instead of counteracting the rightwing lie machine is how it got to be so powerful in the first place (remember John Kerry and the Swiftboaters?? People WILL believe the stupidest, most outlandish and ridiculous lies if they’re repeated often enough without effective pushback)

mea culpa. I’m just sick of seeing their shit.

33 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 6:09:58pm

Policeone cops pimping the orbital bone injury, along with “Benghazi!!!!”

Posted by Wheaties on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 04:33 PM Pacific Report Abuse

God bless you Officer Wilson, I hope you are able to put this all behind you at some point. I’m glad to see the truth coming out.

Posted by GRPrecon on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 02:44 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Hahahaha…the story just keeps crumbling. The officer sustained a broken orbital bone. This is great, mike brown, the 6’4” 300 lb. bully that the CNN crowd just adores is coming off more and more as a typical urban thug. I said this when this story broke last week, what person believed a police officer just executed a black man for walking in the street? I don’t know if I should keep laughing or start crying for the direction our country has gone.

Posted by Kenstah on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 02:31 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Someone needs to report when Rev Al and his entourage quietly put their tails between their legs and slip out of town if they haven’t already.

Posted by LonewolfLE on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 02:28 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Frankly it’s highly disturbing that such a methodical procedure as an autopsy can be contorted to say that wounds might indicate that what “witnesses” said about Brown’s “hands being up” was correct. …when the 2 autopsies already conducted only indicate that he was shot from the front with his hands down. What does this mean for Officer Wilson come that federal autopsy? God it’s frustrating. ..they’re going to sacrifice our brother for the sake of politics….

Posted by SAPDMAS on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 02:25 PM Pacific Report Abuse

This and the audio in the recently found video , doesn’t look good for the race baiters now does it?


Posted by SAPDMAS on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 02:22 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Wait till officer Wilson’s pictures of his injury and X-rays are shown. When this is over, officer Wilson will be the controlling owner of CNN.


Posted by SAPDMAS on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 02:21 PM Pacific Report Abuse

This just reported,

Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.
Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown. This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.


Posted by kev360 on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 01:34 PM Pacific Report Abuse

Piece nailed it. Johnson was pandering for a spot in political office and sold LE as a whole out. I have no empathy for him, the egg on his face is his own doing.


Posted by piecebwithu on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 01:08 PM Pacific Report Abuse

I don’t think Captain Johnson should be praised for anything. He made inflammatory statements from the begining, made promises that he didn’t keep and should have never made (no armored vehicles, no arrests, no riot police, when things go bad we’re going to talk it out,etc), threw the officer involved in the shooting under the bus, threw cops in general under the bus, gave some ridiculous sermon where he inferred that his black son who dresses like a gang member was somehow in as much danger from the police as every other black youth, and blamed ensuing riots on the Ferguson chief releasing the video of Brown committing a robbery minutes before the shooting. As a police official, he failed by allowing his personal feelings/interests, biases and prejudices to interfere with how he communicated and made decisions. It all bit him in the ass and now he wants to start recognizing the hard work of the police officers who are working under his command. Obviously, everyone has the right to their opinion but please don’t be fooled by this apparent change in demeanor. He knows he needs everyone of those machine gun carrying cops and everyone of those armored vehicles to have his back. He sold out his oath and his loyalty to his cops and cops from surrounding agencies to curry favor with a bunch of thugs and community activist agitators, thinking they’d have his back. Now, he realizes he got sold out and he wants to come back home. Fuck that!

Posted by FLdogcop on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:56 AM Pacific Report Abuse

We should take lessons from England. They deal with this all the time. They use water cannons spraying water like a firehose and rubber bullits with chemical gas. Too much niceness leads to innocent citizens hurt property damage and injuries officers doing their job.


Posted by cqsosheriff26 on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:23 AM Pacific Report Abuse

30+ FBI Special Agents and the U.S. Attorney General investigating 1 police officer in Ferguson, MO. Zero FBI Special Agents investigating Lois Lerner and the IRS for criminal acts against taxpayers. You can’t make this stuff up.

Posted by Kenstah on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:10 AM Pacific Report Abuse

Hmmm…seems to me the soft approach has failed….several nights now in fact! I seem to remember during the Los Angeles riots in the 1990’s we had officers/deputies riding in squad cars 4 deep, with the back doors cracked open so everyone could get out of the car dynamically, and with a curfew in place, NO ONE WAS ALLOWED ON THE STREETS after curfew…NO ONE. So, that alleviates the issues with..
1. gunman
2. looters
3. Molotov cocktail throwers
4.. idiots standing around waiting to be led (stupid idiots are easily led, just need the right angry moron to stand up and say “let’s do XYZ”!)
5. morons standing around whining about getting tear gassed when they could JUST GO HOME FOR THE NIGHT. They’ve had ALL DAY for “peaceful protests”. EVERYONE knows the only protests that happen at night are NEVER peaceful…too many stats to back that one up!
6. any other morons too stupid to go home who insist they should be allowed to stand around and watch.

Let the NG clear the streets at curfew of EVERYONE. Mamby pamby handling of these “citizens” has gotten almost 2 weeks of this crapola with no end in sight. How many more officers need to get hurt? Frickin libiturd pacifist moron leadership has extended this nonsense out of sheer political correctness. Stay safe my brothers and sisters! Don’t get hurt because decisive leadership is lacking.


Posted by Wams3997 on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:57 AM Pacific Report Abuse

There is no doubt these guys are being paid just like George Soros paid the wall street thugs. They are being brought in from all parts of the country. Folks like this don’t have the money to travel across the country to put bandannas and throw -Molotov cocktails. You are fighting either the ACLU or some other high-priced liberal agenda intending on creating a race agenda separation. You’re probably looking at this administration.

Posted by code4wjc on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:48 AM Pacific Report Abuse

Did he pull those agents off of the Benghazi investigation to come to Ferguson?

34 alpuz  Aug 19, 2014 6:10:08pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Thank you for doing the dirty work.

35 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:10:11pm
36 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 6:10:55pm

re: #6 elizajane

It’s not just this leak — it’s the whole incredibly unprofessional drip, drip, drip from the police department of information that would seem to exonerate the officer or somehow justify shooting an unarmed man. It not only keeps the story going, especially for those on the right, it continually angers those who had supported Brown’s right not to be executed.

An absolutely terrible way for “law enforcement” to act, blatantly building their own case to the court of public opinion in the most manipulative way.

This x100.

What is certain in this case is not the details of the shooting —- it is the relentless and consistent effort by Ferguson PD to obstruct justice and make a just trial difficult or impossible.

These efforts by the Ferguson PD to screw things up have extended to taking actions (e.g., overly militarized responses to largely peaceful protests) that amount to inciting riots.

So we have the spectacle of a police department that would rather incite riots than do its job solely because doing its job might jeopardize one of their own.

37 elizajane  Aug 19, 2014 6:11:21pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Fox won’t exactly pick it up — somebody on a discussion will just happen to mention it and then the rest of the group will nod, or look horrified, or whatever. And the message will be loud and clear.

38 GeneJockey  Aug 19, 2014 6:11:35pm

re: #7 jaunte

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39 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:12:12pm

re: #33 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wow. That is some ugly, ugly shit.

40 OhNoZombies!  Aug 19, 2014 6:12:23pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

I suppose it’s my own problem that I read it as #ISIS.

Although space might be a good place for them.

Lol. I have a t-shirt that says “Bazinga !”
One day I took a double-take because I thought it said Benghazi.
Heh.

41 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:13:31pm

re: #33 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wait till officer Wilson’s pictures of his injury and X-rays are shown. When this is over, officer Wilson will be the controlling owner of CNN.

And if there are no injuries? These guys will just shrug and move on.

42 bubba zanetti  Aug 19, 2014 6:13:44pm

Whatever happened to tazers?

43 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 19, 2014 6:13:46pm

re: #14 Stanley Sea

Am I crazy or has Ferguson made the Florida PD where Zimmerman shot Trayvon look really professional by comparison..?

#ThingsIThoughtImpossible

44 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 6:14:24pm

LE and conservatives across America will pick this as a cause celebre’ now. Mike was a homicidal thug who was going to kill Officer Wilson. We have seen the crafting of the lie in plain sight…and it is still going to stick because half of America is culturally invested in it.

45 alpuz  Aug 19, 2014 6:15:14pm

re: #44 Aunty Entity Dragon

They already have.

46 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:15:47pm

re: #44 Aunty Entity Dragon

I notice that now he’s become a felon. Well, whatever works, I guess. Truth be damned.

47 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:17:19pm

Maddow now commenting on the out-of-towners in Ferguson.

48 GeneJockey  Aug 19, 2014 6:17:30pm

Jim Hoft exists to provide grist for the confirmation bias of wingnuts. They want to think Michael Brown was a thug who deserved it, so Hoft makes this up out of whole cloth and serves it up. Immediately it becomes TRUTH! on the Right, never to be dislodged.

49 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 6:17:35pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Wow. That is some ugly, ugly shit.

I know that the readers of Policeone are a self selecting group and are not truly representational of LE.

That being said…I sure as shit don’t want to have any contact with any of these “professionals”. Many of them border on outright fascism.

50 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 19, 2014 6:17:42pm
51 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 19, 2014 6:17:55pm

My wingnut acquaintance has come over to our side. He told me today, “Yep, the cop murdered that boy, no doubt about it, and they are doing everything they can to cover it up.” The evidence and analysis presented here was a big factor in that about-face.

52 wrenchwench  Aug 19, 2014 6:18:15pm

coub.com

eh, you’ll just have to click through for it.

Later, lizards.

53 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 19, 2014 6:19:40pm

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel

My wingnut acquaintance has come over to our side. He told me today, “Yep, the cop murdered that boy, no doubt about it, and they are doing everything they can to cover it up.” The evidence and analysis presented here was a big factor in that about-face.

Wish more of them could find their honesty that way. Good work though.

54 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:21:28pm

I waded over to Fixed, and Megyn Kelly went into a commercial break asking “The full resources of the Justice Dept. will be sent into Ferguson…WHY?” I changed the channel. #fuckit

55 Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2014 6:21:49pm

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel

My wingnut acquaintance has come over to our side. He told me today, “Yep, the cop murdered that boy, no doubt about it, and they are doing everything they can to cover it up.” The evidence and analysis presented here was a big factor in that about-face.

One at a fuckn’ time.

56 stpaulbear  Aug 19, 2014 6:22:50pm

Maybe Josie punched Darren in the face when she heard what he’d done.

57 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 6:24:06pm

Tonight. Wilson bangs his face on the dresser. Comes out from hiding tomorrow.

58 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:24:29pm
59 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:24:40pm

re: #54 Kid A

I waded over to Fixed, and Megyn Kelly went into a commercial break asking “The full resources of the Justice Dept. will be sent into Ferguson…WHY?” I changed the channel. #fuckit

She’s exaggerating again.

DOJ employs more than 100,000 attorneys, special agents, other law enforcement personnel and various staff.
allgov.com

60 Kragar  Aug 19, 2014 6:24:47pm

re: #54 Kid A

I waded over to Fixed, and Megyn Kelly went into a commercial break asking “The full resources of the Justice Dept. will be sent into Ferguson…WHY?” I changed the channel. #fuckit

Yeah, the full DOJ is just 40 guys

61 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 6:25:37pm

re: #49 Aunty Entity Dragon

I know that the readers of Policeone are a self selecting group and are not truly representational of LE.

That being said…I sure as shit don’t want to have any contact with any of these “professionals”. Many of them border on outright fascism.

That’s terrifying that those are the kind of people who hold lives in their hands.

62 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 6:26:28pm
63 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 6:27:31pm

re: #61 Joanne

That’s terrifying that those are the kind of people who hold lives in their hands.

Most commenters there apparently want to be Chief Kessler when they grow up.

64 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 6:29:00pm

If Darren Wilson had sustained an orbital blowout fracture, he would have looked like he’d gone a few rounds with an MMA fighter. His face would have been heavily bruised. He would’ve burst some blood vessels in his eye, making it bright red. His eye would’ve been swollen shut. He would’ve been dazed and disoriented.

He sure as shit wouldn’t have been in any shape to SEE much less shoot Michael Brown. No way in hell. And anyone who says otherwise is lying.

65 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:30:38pm

re: #57 GlutenFreeJesus

Tonight. Wilson bangs his face on the dresser. Comes out from hiding tomorrow.

Or truthfully answers his girlfriend when she asks “do these pants make me look fat?”

Mission accomplished.

66 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 6:32:35pm

re: #65 Skip Intro

Or truthfully answers his girlfriend when she asks “do these pants make me look fat?”

Mission accomplished.

Or better yet. Buddy on the force: Come on buddy. Brace yourself. Take one for the team.

67 Danny  Aug 19, 2014 6:32:53pm

Hoft’s post shows “file image” under the CT image and has a link to the AAPOS site. I saw the file image blurb when I looked earlier today but don’t recall seeing the AAPOS link at the time.

68 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:33:23pm

Reuters ran a story on the 14th that included this:

Police have said that Brown struggled with the officer who shot and killed him. The officer involved in the shooting was injured during the incident and was treated in a hospital for swelling on the side of his face, they said.

reuters.com

69 Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2014 6:33:25pm

It’s dark in Ferguson, described as ‘subdued’.

70 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:33:37pm

re: #67 Danny

Doesn’t matter, the derp has been done.

71 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:33:40pm

Meanwhile…

72 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 6:33:48pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

Most commenters there apparently want to be Chief Kessler when they grow up.

What I found to be gob smacking unbelievable was that there were officers at Policeone willing to defend the disgusting South Carolina deputy who drunkenly assaulted and handcuffed a female soldier near FT Jackson after she rebuffed his advances (all on film) last October.

Others did call out the deputy, but most tried to denigrate the charcter of a female soldier who wanted to have dinner in peace and not be mauled by a drunk asshole.

73 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:34:31pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Wow, he just gets to be more of a shit every day.

75 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:35:18pm
76 TedStriker  Aug 19, 2014 6:35:19pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile…

What a fame-hungry shithead.

77 makeitstop  Aug 19, 2014 6:35:35pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

I read that earlier. It’s disgusting.

And I’m pretty sure that if Wilson was hurt, he wouldn’t keep it to himself.

They would have had photos of the injury up on the web in a quick minute.

If anything would have swung sympathy to his side immediately, that would have been it.

78 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:36:44pm
79 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:37:01pm
80 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:37:46pm

Holy shit, that dude writes for the NY Post and he called a wingnut “filth.”

81 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:37:48pm

Evening Lizardim.

82 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:37:59pm
83 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2014 6:38:20pm

re: #67 Danny

Hoft’s post shows “file image” under the CT image and has a link to the AAPOS site. I saw the file image blurb when I looked earlier today but don’t recall seeing the AAPOS link at the time.

He’s in CYA mode now.

84 Danny  Aug 19, 2014 6:38:57pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

No doubt.

85 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:39:36pm
86 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:39:52pm

Chuckles is from Fresno, the most down and out town in California? Home of the World Headquarters of Free Republic.

I can’t say I’m surprised.

87 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:40:19pm

re: #67 Danny

Hoft’s post shows “file image” under the CT image and has a link to the AAPOS site. I saw the file image blurb when I looked earlier today but don’t recall seeing the AAPOS link at the time.

I’m pretty sure he edited the post to add that, but I didn’t save it at the time.

88 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 6:40:20pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Is everything a zero sum game with these idiots? Do they not respect anything?

BTW, Charles, I forced myself to watch Megyn Kelly for about 2 minutes. She was defending the prosecutor and then had some guy on who wrote a book against Eric Holder woofing away about how there was no way he could be fair.

That was all I could take.

89 abolitionist  Aug 19, 2014 6:40:35pm

re: #42 bubba zanetti

Whatever happened to tazers?

They have limited range (several feet of fine wires) and may need some time to build a charge after being turned on.

90 TedStriker  Aug 19, 2014 6:40:57pm

re: #78 Kid A

@jpodhoretz And you are a type writer coward who lies people into wars that you won’t go and fight. The feeling of disgust is mutual.

— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) August 20, 2014

Oh look, Lil’ Charles is trying to act like his testicles have dropped…

91 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:41:03pm
92 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:42:58pm

re: #88 BeachDem

I can’t read that bastard’s shit any more after that. I’m done.

93 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 6:43:36pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

I’m pretty sure he edited the post to add that, but I didn’t save it at the time.

I’m mobile now so can’t check, but Wayback Machine may have archived it. I think I’ve seen multiple snapshots at Dims site in a day.

94 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 6:44:55pm

re: #80 Kid A

Holy shit, that dude writes for the NY Post and he called a wingnut “filth.”

I believe he’s a hardcore hawk.

95 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:44:55pm
96 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2014 6:46:04pm

re: #78 Kid A

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Chuckles is a combat vet? Where? Kindergarten?

97 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 6:46:12pm
98 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 6:46:19pm

re: #78 Kid A

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It’s like choosing between the plague and smallpox.

99 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:46:24pm

re: #95 Kid A

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We here at LGF have much to teach Mr. Podhoretz. We have extensive experience with the depths of the derp.

100 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 6:46:31pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Victor Frankenstein was unavailable for comments on the latest version of the monster.

101 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 6:48:33pm

re: #99 thedopefishlives

We here at LGF have much to teach Mr. Podhoretz. We have extensive experience with the depths of the derp.

IMO Chuckles J. Johnson, the clown, is about a 7/10 on the RWNJ scale of stupidity+malice.

102 De Kolta Chair  Aug 19, 2014 6:48:55pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuckles is a combat vet? Where? Kindergarten?

Does almost winning that one tetherball game in the fourth grade count as combat experience?

103 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:49:32pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuckles is a combat vet? Where? Kindergarten?

When he got in the argument with the cop that stole his fireworks.

104 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:49:34pm

Podhoretz has gone pretty deep into the derp himself.

105 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:50:12pm

re: #93 Franklin

I’m mobile now so can’t check, but Wayback Machine may have archived it. I think I’ve seen multiple snapshots at Dims site in a day.

Nothing on Wayback since Aug 17. Google Cache shows the page with the link to the AAPOS site.

106 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 6:51:01pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Podhoretz has gone pretty deep into the derp himself.

Advocating for perpetual US global military hegemony is a perfectly respectable position, as long as its advocates can speak and write in complete sentences. //

107 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:51:02pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Podhoretz has gone pretty deep into the derp himself.

There are cracks in the hull of the submarine, but he’s not yet to implosion depth.

108 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 6:52:19pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

Thanks for checking.

109 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:53:12pm
110 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 6:53:16pm

No grass growing under her feet, Dana Loesch ran with this 10 hours ago…

111 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:53:51pm

re: #110 ausador

No grass growing under her feet, Dana Loesch ran with this 10 hours ago…

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If you’re sourcing Dim Jim Hoft, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG.

112 alpuz  Aug 19, 2014 6:54:32pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

This. Good night.

113 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:55:07pm

I wonder how quietly this whole thing is going to get swept under the rug when it’s revealed that The Dim Bulb was incorrect (to use polite terminology) in his statements? Will anyone even notice that they dropped the subject entirely?

114 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:55:47pm

re: #110 ausador

And she’s taking it to Hannity tonight.

115 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:56:09pm

lol

116 Danny  Aug 19, 2014 6:56:30pm
117 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 6:56:31pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

I wonder how quietly this whole thing is going to get swept under the rug when it’s revealed that The Dim Bulb was incorrect (to use polite terminology) in his statements? Will anyone even notice that they dropped the subject entirely?

You already know the answer to that :)

118 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 6:57:09pm

re: #114 Skip Intro

And she’s taking it to Hannity tonight.

I can’t stand either one of them, but I want to watch the derp metastasize.

119 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:57:37pm

re: #117 Franklin

You already know the answer to that :)

I do, but I have to put it out there so I can look like a mind-reader when it happens.

120 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 6:57:40pm
121 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 6:57:50pm

re: #111 thedopefishlives

If you’re sourcing Dim Jim Hoft, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG.

It’s not the source that matters, it’s the message. Once the message is planted, it spreads like wildfire in a billion different directions.

122 dog philosopher  Aug 19, 2014 6:58:16pm

re: #99 thedopefishlives

We here at LGF have much to teach Mr. Podhoretz. We have extensive experience with the depths of the derp.

the derp end of the pool?

123 nsmith25  Aug 19, 2014 6:58:44pm

One of my teammates, my buddy fractured his orbital bone while we played college football. 1st game (1st quarter). He missed the entire season. Wasn’t cleared to play again for nearly 10 MONTHS!

Fuck off Hoft.

124 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 6:59:09pm
125 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 6:59:25pm

re: #121 Skip Intro

It’s not the source that matters, it’s the message. Once the message is planted, it spreads like wildfire in a billion different directions.

And that’s because people don’t actually examine the sources. If they did, this thing would die a swift, painless death.

126 dog philosopher  Aug 19, 2014 6:59:54pm

it’s the duke of smoochie that i want to keep away from

127 Shvaughn  Aug 19, 2014 7:00:02pm

re: #124 jaunte

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What could possibly go wrong?

128 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:00:59pm

Lawhawk, Leon used the info we gave him via Charles via Twitter. Unfortunately he wrote a diary for Redstate, but it’s surprisingly honest and he isn’t buying Dim’s derp.

129 Belafon  Aug 19, 2014 7:01:31pm
130 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 7:01:39pm

re: #119 thedopefishlives

I do, but I have to put it out there so I can look like a mind-reader when it happens.

It’s just crazy though. That people ignore the debunked stories since they are already predisposed to believe it could be true.

131 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:01:44pm
132 Kragar  Aug 19, 2014 7:02:50pm

re: #111 thedopefishlives

If you’re sourcing Dim Jim Hoft, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG.

133 Archangelus  Aug 19, 2014 7:03:16pm

re: #95 Kid A

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“reaches a depth I generally doubt any human being can reach” - Not only has it been reached, they’re setting up industrial-grade gear to dig deeper…

134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 19, 2014 7:04:36pm

Winner!!!

135 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 7:04:56pm

re: #124 jaunte

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and we now have the apotheosis of the school to prison pipeline.

136 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:05:04pm

re: #132 Kragar

The Spiral of Derp has breached the containment vessel.

137 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 7:06:34pm
138 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:06:37pm

re: #135 Aunty Entity Dragon

Schools in Compton already look like prisons. I was wondering if the weapons were for the campus cops to protect themselves from the students.

139 De Kolta Chair  Aug 19, 2014 7:06:51pm

re: #110 ausador

No grass growing under her feet, Dana Loesch ran with this 10 hours ago…

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Take that, One Source Hoft — Dana Loesch has more than one!

140 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 7:07:26pm

Y’all need a break???

141 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 7:09:03pm
142 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 7:09:22pm

re: #136 Skip Intro

The Spiral of Derp has breached the containment vessel.

Molten derpium 137 is fatal to human intellect and should be avoided with industry standard containment practices.

143 Jenner7  Aug 19, 2014 7:09:27pm

Just heard on The Last Word on MSNBC that Gov. Jay Nixon will not ask McCullough to recuse himself.

144 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 7:09:36pm

re: #136 Skip Intro

The Spiral of Derp has breached the containment vessel.

Attention citizens of Pripyat. There has been an accident at Derpnobyl power station.

145 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:11:00pm

re: #143 Jenner7

Just heard on The Last Word on MSNBC that Gov. Jay Nixon will not ask McCullough to recuse himself.

Why should he? The fix has been in since day one. No reason for the prosecutor to recuse himself at this point.

146 Gus  Aug 19, 2014 7:11:01pm

re: #140 Franklin

Y’all need a break???

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147 De Kolta Chair  Aug 19, 2014 7:11:05pm

re: #129 Belafon

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That Soviet monument has been painted over several times. The example used was from June 2011. en.wikipedia.org

This is the latest occurrence with the national colors of Ukraine:
Image: File:Sofia-Monument-to-Soviet-Army—Glory-to-Ukraine-20140224-1.jpg

148 Belafon  Aug 19, 2014 7:11:40pm

re: #143 Jenner7

They setup the perfect circle of “not me”:
McCullough: I will only resign if the governor asks me.
Nixon: I will only make him resign if he requests.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 7:11:57pm

re: #129 Belafon

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That’s from like 2007 2011 (thanks Kolta Chair!) but it still kicks ass.

150 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 7:12:14pm

re: #86 Skip Intro

Chuckles is from Fresno, the most down and out town in California? Home of the World Headquarters of Free Republic.

I can’t say I’m surprised.

Wasn’t he harping on about how crime-ridden Ferguson is? Fresno is no better.

city-data.com

city-data.com

151 Belafon  Aug 19, 2014 7:12:26pm

re: #147 De Kolta Chair

Thanks. It’s still funny.

152 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 19, 2014 7:12:55pm

Saying that Bob McCollough will not be making the presentation to the grand jury.

153 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:13:36pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

And that’s why I have stopped. No more.

154 Stanley Sea  Aug 19, 2014 7:14:04pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

That pissant is one who SHOULD BE IGNORED.

155 danarchy  Aug 19, 2014 7:14:59pm

re: #148 Belafon

They setup the perfect circle of “not me”:
McCullough: I will only resign if the governor asks me.
Nixon: I will only make him resign if he requests.

minor correction, nobody is talking about resignation, just recusal from this one case.

156 Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 19, 2014 7:15:46pm

re: #102 De Kolta Chair

Does almost winning that one tetherball game in the fourth grade count as combat experience?

No. I think it was when he fought the next door neighbor kid over a toy when Chucky was four.

She kicked his ass.

157 nsmith25  Aug 19, 2014 7:15:47pm

I hope shit doesn’t go down crazy in Ferguson tonight.

I really need to get some sleep. 3 AM has been pretty normal.

158 Belafon  Aug 19, 2014 7:16:18pm

re: #155 danarchy

Thanks. O-fer tonight then.

159 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 7:16:21pm

I tweet this every day just to piss off the wingnuts:

160 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:16:57pm

Assuming there are others, such as myself, who really have no idea who Charles C. Johnson is, I’ve collected a sample of his work.

Thanks to Wonkette making it so easy.

161 Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2014 7:19:17pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

That pissant is one who SHOULD BE IGNORED.

He’s a data point. Sniffing around him led to this interesting bit of Mississippi folk-politics:

College Republican faces impeachment after endorsement

clarionledger.com

TheMcDaniel/Cochran cockup has reached into the TPGOP nursery.

162 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 7:20:19pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

What a doofus.

163 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 7:21:57pm
164 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 7:22:10pm
165 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 7:22:14pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

Assuming there are others, such as myself, who really have no idea who Charles C. Johnson is, I’ve collected a sample of his work.

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Thanks to Wonkette making it so easy.

“Ok, Rainman.”

166 Franklin  Aug 19, 2014 7:22:44pm

Perhaps we could Google Bomb Chuckles? “Award Winning Asshole” has a nice ring to it.

167 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:23:41pm


Credit: Wonkette

168 psddluva4evah  Aug 19, 2014 7:24:19pm

re: #155 danarchy

just saw Claire McCaskill on Lawrence, someone described the interview has “Dems sticking together”, ie McCaskill. Nixon, McCullough. think about that and you’ll understand why the interview pissed me off.

I may not be surprised if he gets indicted (though I’d be less surprised if he doesn’t) but I suspect even if he is indicted, the people of Feguson will never know justice. Here hoping the DOJ can make a case.

169 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 7:25:22pm

Cage matches I’d like to see:

Chuck C. Johnson vs Jim Hoft

Ben Carson vs Al Sharpton (Ben has already sent an invitation to Al)

Glenn Greenwald vs Julian Assange

Rick Perry vs Rosemary Lehmberg

Bryan Fischer vs Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

170 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:25:28pm

re: #150 GlutenFreeJesus

Wasn’t he harping on about how crime-ridden Ferguson is? Fresno is no better.

city-data.com

city-data.com

Accolades for Fresno from the media.

The booby prize this year for Dirtiest City in America goes to Fresno, California. This Central Valley city suffers some of the worst air in the nation, and a water supply so degraded that the city used to tell pregnant women not to drink from the tap.

forbes.com

Fresno-area air problem ranks as nation’s worst

fresnobee.com

Health hazard: West Fresno the riskiest place to live in California
fresnobee.com

171 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:26:04pm

Better journalism than Dim Hoft and that Chuck C. Johnson douche:

And yeah, I’m 99% sure this is satire. It’s still more believable than either of those two dipshits.

172 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 7:26:44pm
173 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 7:27:10pm

Dana Loesch vs Megyn Kelly

174 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 19, 2014 7:28:08pm

Dear CNN, he was MURDERED not “executed” you dumbshits

175 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:28:36pm

re: #171 Lidane

Better journalism than Dim Hoft and that Chuck C. Johnson douche:

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And yeah, I’m 99% sure this is satire. It’s still more believable than either of those two dipshits.

It could easily appear on Fox and Friends.

176 Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2014 7:30:03pm

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

Cage matches I’d like to see:

Chuck C. Johnson vs Jim Hoft

Ben Carson vs Al Sharpton (Ben has already sent an invitation to Al)

Glenn Greenwald vs Julian Assange

Rick Perry vs Rosemary Lehmberg

Bryan Fischer vs Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

Well, I guess it is about time Thunderdome got some usage. I mean we’re paying the upkeep, might as well use it.

//

177 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 7:30:37pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Well, I guess it is about time Thunderdome got some usage. I mean we’re paying the upkeep, might as well use it.

//

We own the Thunderdome? WICKED! I need to start hosting my sparring matches in there!

178 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:31:38pm

re: #166 Franklin

Perhaps we could Google Bomb Chuckles? “Award Winning Asshole” has a nice ring to it.

I like “Google me Prick”.

179 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 7:32:16pm

re: #132 Kragar

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Bryan’s probably hyped up on weed. After all,

“we’ve had stories from Colorado, people going berserk on marijuana and killing people, hyped up on marijuana.”

180 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:32:58pm
181 bubba zanetti  Aug 19, 2014 7:33:07pm

This is kind of cool for posting quotes on Twitter:

pixelcite.com

182 Decatur Deb  Aug 19, 2014 7:33:23pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

I like “Google me Prick”.

Something a SpacePirate might say.

183 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 7:35:07pm

re: #171 Lidane

100% satire. Say the name “Hard Dawn” out loud.

184 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:36:25pm

I bet your city doesn’t have one of these.

185 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:36:39pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

100% satire. Say the name “Hard Dawn” out loud.

LOL

186 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 7:37:12pm

re: #155 danarchy

minor correction, nobody is talking about resignation, just recusal from this one case.

Yeah, that’s why McCaskill was bugging me when she was on LOD—kept talking about how it wouldn’t be right to make him resign, when nobody has suggested that. There are plenty of conditions when it would be appropriate for a prosecutor/judge/attorney to recuse from a specific case (too bad Supremes like Thomas and Scalia never do it when they should.)

187 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:37:35pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

100% satire. Say the name “Hard Dawn” out loud.

Yeah I know. But there’s just enough people out there who believe that kind of crazy. That’s why I leave a 1% chance that it’s a legit crazy site.

188 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:37:46pm

re: #185 Kid A

I can see Steve Dufus of Fox and Friends saying it and not getting the joke.

189 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:38:09pm

Someone posted this earlier. I’m still laughing at it.

190 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 7:38:29pm

re: #156 Odie Hugh Manatee

No. I think it was when he fought the next door neighbor kid over a toy when Chucky was four.

She kicked his ass.

Just wait a minute there. ChuckyC was STALKED by rent a cops in Mississippi and lived to tell the tale.

191 Kilroy01  Aug 19, 2014 7:38:48pm

re: #184 Skip Intro

I bet your city doesn’t have one of these.

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Challenge excepted…
ww1.captainhenryspiratestore.com
Portland.. no surprise there.

192 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 7:38:57pm

re: #188 Skip Intro

I can see Steve Dufus of Fox and Friends saying it and not getting the joke.

“Fox News source Hugh G. Rection tells us…”

193 Kid A  Aug 19, 2014 7:39:31pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

“Fox News source Hugh G. Rection tells us…”

Mike Hunt is on the story, Mike?

194 makeitstop  Aug 19, 2014 7:39:54pm

re: #41 jaunte

And if there are no injuries? These guys will just shrug and move on.

No, they’ll continue to rage that the dead blah kid ‘got away with it.’

195 EPR-radar  Aug 19, 2014 7:40:04pm

re: #187 Lidane

Yeah I know. But there’s just enough people out there who believe that kind of crazy. That’s why I leave a 1% chance that it’s a legit crazy site.

There seem to be a fine crop of true believers in the comments over there. That blog must not break character.

196 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:41:45pm

I was surprised that this wasn’t a Fox News Exclusive.

197 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 7:42:53pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

I was surprised that this wasn’t a Fox News Exclusive.

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There it is. We’re done here.

198 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 7:43:36pm

re: #170 Skip Intro

I know correlation does not equal causation, but fetid air…ChuckyC spouting idiocy…you do the math.

199 Mattand  Aug 19, 2014 7:43:41pm

re: #171 Lidane

Better journalism than Dim Hoft and that Chuck C. Johnson douche:

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And yeah, I’m 99% sure this is satire. It’s still more believable than either of those two dipshits.

I told them at the conclave that spray painting “DIE ANGEL SCUM” on the underside of the plane was a bad idea.

200 Skip Intro  Aug 19, 2014 7:47:57pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

Well, I see I spoke too soon. KTVU is a Fox News affiliate.

201 thedopefishlives  Aug 19, 2014 7:48:29pm

Night Lizardim.

202 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 7:48:48pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

I was surprised that this wasn’t a Fox News Exclusive.

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One of the greatest moments in journalism.

I wonder if they’re Award Winning(tm), too.

203 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:50:21pm

ICYMI:

204 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 7:51:04pm

re: #12 majii

I find it strange that Wilson has broken his silence and is sending texts to his good friend Jake Shepard and none of the texts mention an orbital blowout fracture of the eye socket. In the texts, Wilson seems most concerned with his and his son’s safety. Shepard expressed his support for Wilson in a CNN appearance.

“The first text that Wilson sent to Shepard was on Friday after he spoke to CNN in a brief interview.”

“It read: “Thanks buddy I wasn’t expecting that”. Shepard replied: “No problem buddy, you deserve it.”

“Wilson replied: “It means a lot thank you.”’

“The two then texted over the weekend and Darren explained that he cannot go out in public and that anyone wanting to reach him should leave their messages with the Ferguson police department.”

“On Monday Wilson texted: ‘The support is really keeping me going during this stressful time. Just stay safe. I appreciate all you have done’.”

dailymail.co.uk

I don’t think Wilson got hurt but he also likely didn’t start this dumb-ass rumor. I’d not be surprised to see that Dim Jim made it up out of whole cloth.

205 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:51:43pm

Trolling Level: 9000

206 jaunte  Aug 19, 2014 7:52:14pm

No nameplates is the new style.

207 ObserverArt  Aug 19, 2014 7:53:25pm

I’m not really watching any news this evening, but just following along here I realize things must be relatively cool in Ferguson Missouri tonight since there is very little mention of it.

A good thing.

I just hope the people are realizing their real fight is in the political arena and as citizens they need to go out and work to get some control of their elected officials so they can work to get better things for their community. Like a police force that represents them for starters.

208 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 19, 2014 7:53:51pm

Evening lizards. I just heard about the ISIS murder of an American and the woman who they split in half with 2 cars. Sick motherfuckers.

209 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:55:25pm
210 nsmith25  Aug 19, 2014 7:56:50pm
211 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 7:57:01pm
212 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 8:02:00pm

re: #211 Lidane

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I seriously wish we could load that asshole into a bomb rack canister along with several 1000lb bombs, transport them to Iraq via B-52 and then drop them on the ‘Islamic State’ Arc-Light style.

I wouldn’t actually do that though, because dropping Chuckles C. Johnson on an enemy would be considered an act of biological warfare. The man is a bacteria.

213 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 8:04:58pm

Adam Serwer is in Ferguson tonight.

214 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 8:07:12pm

re: #174 Pie-onist Overlord

Dear CNN, he was MURDERED not “executed” you dumbshits

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215 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 19, 2014 8:08:38pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

Seeing how the alleged prosecutor of Wilson sounds more like his defense attorney in the Shaun King tweets, it’s entirely possible that his office could have leaked this info to DimJim.

Nothing complicates your life like a federal indictment.

216 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 8:14:20pm

re: #214 ausador

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Indeed. Whatever the ‘Islamic State’ (ISIL) says it is, it is not a recognized government. Thus its non-combat killings of people are murder, not executions.

Execution is what the Iraqi government is going to do to most of the ISIL leaders or torturers it may capture. Only it’ll use a gallows and a properly measured drop for normally-immediately killing and far less gresome method of death.

217 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 8:16:46pm
218 Stanley Sea  Aug 19, 2014 8:19:35pm

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards. I just heard about the ISIS murder of an American and the woman who they split in half with 2 cars. Sick motherfuckers.

I just deleted what I typed in response.

Chill out, hug your wife and kids and get off the terrorist porn.

219 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 8:22:00pm

re: #217 Lidane

Lol, thanks for the pointer to him…

220 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 8:22:29pm
221 Lidane  Aug 19, 2014 8:23:04pm

re: #219 ausador

Lol, thanks for the pointer to him…

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Thank Gus. He RT’d the first post and I liked it, so I posted it here.

222 Gus  Aug 19, 2014 8:25:12pm

Couple of points.

Local law enforcement agencies do not purchase MRAPs. Those are provided for at no cost through DHS. Secondly, the Lenco BearCat is not an MRAP. I have yet to see an MRAP in Ferguson.

223 jonhendry  Aug 19, 2014 8:33:13pm

I notice that the spelling on the signs in Ferguson is vastly better than signs at Tea Party-type events.

224 dog philosopher  Aug 19, 2014 8:33:26pm

i had a good friend of mine now gone dog rest his spirit that toward the end of his life was posessed by the idea that MRAPs were mind control devices

and in a sense i guess they are

225 dog philosopher  Aug 19, 2014 8:41:20pm

thank you yes i think i will kill the thread

226 Floral Giraffe  Aug 19, 2014 8:42:36pm

re: #225 dog philosopher

BOOM! There, re-opened!

227 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 8:43:56pm

re: #222 Gus

Couple of points.

Local law enforcement agencies do not purchase MRAPs. Those are provided for at no cost through DHS. Secondly, the Lenco BearCat is not an MRAP. I have yet to see an MRAP in Ferguson.

I know, I just like the gist of what he said because I have seen them driving around so much with swat clinging to the outside of the Bearcat. Armor does not do you much good if you are on the wrong side of it now does it?

228 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 8:48:48pm

Damn dude. Matt Oswalt went all zen master just now.

229 bratwurst  Aug 19, 2014 8:49:23pm

A fuckwit checks in:

230 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 8:50:31pm

Nice to see #Ferguson peaceful for once finally, just people walking up and down the street talking.

231 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 19, 2014 8:50:44pm

re: #229 bratwurst

A fuckwit checks in:

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Is that the dude that got his ass handed to him by Tammy Duckworth?

232 Egregious Philbin  Aug 19, 2014 8:52:26pm

Hoft should be arrested for gross fraud.

POS moron

233 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 8:53:16pm
234 Charles Johnson  Aug 19, 2014 8:54:01pm
235 Mattand  Aug 19, 2014 8:55:10pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

By the way, I absolutely stand by my earlier statement that the conservative movement has been breeding sociopaths like @ChuckCJohnson.

Yeah, pretty much this. Still get depressed over the high number of ‘sane’ conservatives who either don’t get this, or pretend it’s not happening.

236 abolitionist  Aug 19, 2014 8:56:47pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

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You may have helped achieve that, in some measure.

237 The War TARDIS  Aug 19, 2014 8:57:48pm

This makes me angry.

I have learned in the past few weeks to never trust the police.

238 bratwurst  Aug 19, 2014 8:58:38pm

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that the dude that got his ass handed to him by Tammy Duckworth?

Well it sure isn’t the Joe Walsh of “Rocky Mountain Way” fame!

239 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 9:00:37pm

re: #227 ausador

I know, I just like the gist of what he said because I have seen them driving around so much with swat clinging to the outside of the Bearcat. Armor does not do you much good if you are on the wrong side of it now does it?

When they are riding around outside like that, they know they aren’t in danger. It’s purely for intimidation purposes.

240 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 9:00:59pm

So far so good anyway…

241 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 9:01:00pm
242 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 9:03:08pm

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that the dude that got his ass handed to him by Tammy Duckworth?

Yes.

243 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:14:54pm

re: #229 bratwurst

A fuckwit checks in:

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Bitter right wing crybaby says wut?

244 Jenner7  Aug 19, 2014 9:15:47pm

Megyn Kelly is outraged at Gov. Jay Nixon’s video where he calls for justice for Mike Brown. She thinks it is inappropriate since they go to the grand jury tomorrow.

Really??? REALLY?? How about releasing irrelevant video of the VICTIM?? Or leaking his toxicology report?? Or reporting on an unconfirmed source of Wilson’s version of events???

I’m not about to defend his remarks, but to ignore what the police have done to taint potential jurors is mind blowing. God, I hate Fox News.

245 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:16:13pm

re: #238 bratwurst

Well it sure isn’t the Joe Walsh of “Rocky Mountain Way” fame!

I think that’s part of why he’s bitter. Guy isn’t even going down in history as the most famous Joe Walsh. A one term Tea Party refusing to pay child support hypocritical right wing dirtbag who was lucky to ride in on a wave of right wing resentment and lies to Congress.

246 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:17:20pm

re: #244 Jenner7

Megyn Kelly is outraged at Gov. Jay Nixon’s video where he calls for justice for Mike Brown. She thinks it is inappropriate since they go to the grand jury tomorrow.

Really??? REALLY?? How about releasing irrelevant video of the VICTIM?? Or leaking his toxicology report?? Or reporting on an unconfirmed source of Wilson’s version of events???

I’m not about to defend his remarks, but to ignore what the police have done to taint potential jurors is mind blowing. God, I hate Fox News.

For someone who is supposed to be trained as a lawyer, she sure does act ignorant as hell in regards to the law. But then again, she knows where the bread is buttered and that is in the hearts and souls of wingnuts who think that Darren Wilson is the victim here and that Michael BRown should be put on trial.

247 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 9:20:55pm

re: #245 HappyWarrior

I think that’s part of why he’s bitter. Guy isn’t even going down in history as the most famous Joe Walsh. A one term Tea Party refusing to pay child support hypocritical right wing dirtbag who was lucky to ride in on a wave of right wing resentment and lies to Congress.

Other Republicans lost in Illinois in 2012 because of gerrymandering (some of those loses will be put right this year, I assure you), but Walsh lost because he’s an asshole. He lost by more than 15%, because his words ands actions are so toxic. I don’t live in his district, but if I had in 2012 I would have voted for Duckworth as an act of political hygiene.

248 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:23:34pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Other Republicans lost in Illinois in 2012 because of gerrymandering (some of those loses will be put right this year, I assure you), but Walsh lost because he’s an asshole. He lost by more than 15%, because his words ands actions are so toxic. I don’t live in his district, but if I had in 2012 I would have voted for Duckworth as an act of political hygiene.

Lost by over 10% I believe didn’t he? The guy is just a huge dick and every time I see one of his tweets, I am just grateful that Duckworth beat him because she’s as admirable as he is detestable.

249 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 9:23:38pm

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Other Republicans lost in Illinois in 2012 because of gerrymandering (some of those loses will be put right this year, I assure you), but Walsh lost because he’s an asshole. He lost by more than 15%, because his words ands actions are so toxic. I don’t live in his district, but if I had in 2012 I would have voted for Duckworth as an act of political hygiene.

When republicans in Illinois (and everywhere else) lose, the whole state (country) wins.

250 Timothy Watson  Aug 19, 2014 9:24:02pm

re: #246 HappyWarrior

For someone who is supposed to be trained as a lawyer, she sure does act ignorant as hell in regards to the law. But then again, she knows where the bread is buttered and that is in the hearts and souls of wingnuts who think that Darren Wilson is the victim here and that Michael BRown should be put on trial.

That’s pretty much standard-operating procedure for any Fox News female anchor, see also the high school valedictorian, Stanford University alumna and Rhodes Scholar Gretchen Carlson.

251 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:24:52pm

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

When republicans in Illinois (and everywhere else) lose, the whole state (country) wins.

Here’s hoping I can get my first Democratic representation in Congress here in Va. Gonna be a tight race. Just glad that Bob Marshall wasn’t nominated. Sure, I’d feel a little better about winning the race but even the chance of having that psycho fuck in Congress would scare the bejesus out of me.

252 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:25:44pm

re: #250 Timothy Watson

That’s pretty standard-operating procedure for any Fox News female anchor, see also the high school valedictorian, Stanford University alumna and Rhodes Scholar Gretchen Carlson.

Yep, Rupe and Rog pay the big bucks for this shit. And of course the rubes buy it all up.

253 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 9:26:19pm
254 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:30:31pm

Did anyone see that Treyvon Martin’s mother wrote a letter to Mike Brown’s? Real touching. As with Treyvon’s family, I just feel for Mike’s. It’s tragic enough to lose a son but then you have right wing bloogers like Jim Hoft who are all too eager to drag their son through the mud for the explicit reason of inciting the bigoted jackasses that read their blogs.

255 Egregious Philbin  Aug 19, 2014 9:31:49pm

re: #241 teleskiguy

Michael Kenyon…The Illinois Enema Bandit…..

Oh the pitiful screams..of all those college educated women…

256 Teukka  Aug 19, 2014 9:32:36pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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Ooh, that’s gotta hurt, when conservatives call you scum.

257 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 9:33:41pm

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

258 KiTA  Aug 19, 2014 9:34:04pm

Man, all this Dim Hoft stuff makes me wish I was less ethical. I would be spamming twitter with all kinds of anti-Hoft (defined as the same thing Hoft is doing, but “counter” to his obvious bias) crap.

I had typed up some examples - supposed anonymous sources claiming Wilson was high on PCP and Steroids at the time, claims that Wilson or the chief are members of Stormfront, that kind of crap - but I can’t even do it in jest.

Still… Christ seeing the RWNJs get away with that kind of shit every. Single. Time. Without ever seeing any consequences, ever, just drains a person.

I know, freedom of the press and all that, but still, if I ever get a chance, I’m kicking Jim Hoft in the jimmies.

259 KiTA  Aug 19, 2014 9:34:39pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

Yeah, because the Republicans are paragons of fiscal responsibility. Hah!

260 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:37:00pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

Your party hasn’t been fiscally conservative in a very long time, hate to break it to you but tax cuts above all else isn’t fiscal conservatism.

261 gwangung  Aug 19, 2014 9:37:12pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

Um, DF….if you haven’t noticed, but the Democrats have been the party of fiscal responsibility for some decades now.

Getting finances under control is a DEMOCRATIC hallmark. See California.

262 Teukka  Aug 19, 2014 9:37:34pm

re: #237 The War TARDIS

This makes me angry.

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I have learned in the past few weeks to never trust the police.

I trust the police. But then again, here in Sweden the police training is 2 years of school at a level equivalent of university studies, followed by 6 months of mandatory internship.

What’s the average length of training in the US for police officers?

263 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 9:37:40pm

re: #249 GlutenFreeJesus

When republicans in Illinois (and everywhere else) lose, the whole state (country) wins.

Not that I want to see one party super-majorities everywhere, I don’t. The Republicans just aren’t going to admit that their theory on governance is broken until they lose enough ground.

264 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:38:22pm

re: #261 gwangung

Um, DF….if you haven’t noticed, but the Democrats have been the party of fiscal responsibility for some decades now.

Getting finances under control is a DEMOCRATIC hallmark. See California.

Same here in Virginia. Mark Warner, Tim Kaine. All quite fiscally conservative guys. Fact of the matter is the Democratic Party is close to what the Republicans were in the 60’s and 70’s. The Republican Party meanwhile resembles George Wallace’s American Independent Party more so than either party of that era.

265 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:40:14pm

re: #263 ausador

Not that I want to see one party super-majorities everywhere, I don’t. The Republicans just aren’t going to admit that their theory on governance is broken until they lose enough ground.

I’ll take some Republicans who actually mean what they say when they say keep the government out of people’s lives and that means none of this anti-abortion with no exceptions crap, none of this decrying the end of DOMA, and none of this resistance to marijuana legalization. You claim you’re for individual liberty? Act like it.

266 Kragar  Aug 19, 2014 9:41:03pm

Wait, when did the GOP give a damn about finances?

Oh, yeah, when they lost the White House.

267 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 9:41:05pm
268 klys  Aug 19, 2014 9:43:24pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

Hahahahahahahahaha, oh man, I needed a fantastic laugh tonight.

269 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 9:43:39pm

Good Night, All.

270 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 9:44:15pm

re: #261 gwangung

Um, DF….if you haven’t noticed, but the Democrats have been the party of fiscal responsibility for some decades now.

Getting finances under control is a DEMOCRATIC hallmark. See California.

Not to mention all the toxic waste they leave behind; abortion rights squashed, corporate tax breaks while rising individual taxes, Christ, just look at GOP governors Walker, McDonnell and Scott. Corrupt as any IL gov (and our prisons have a wing for ex-govs).

271 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:44:46pm

By the way honest question DF, what makes you think that the Illinois GOP isn’t through nominating people like Joe Walsh? Really party label aside. What gives you honest hope that these guys that are running this year aren’t jerks like Walsh? And again I hate to sound patronizing but the Democrats aren’t the only crooks in your state. Your last governor before Blago was a Republican and he’s a convicted felon. You can’t always talk about the crooked Illinois Democratic Machine when your state GOP produced George Ryan. Not a defense of the Illinois Dems but it’s dishonest of you to act like the Illinois GOP is some exemplifier of ethical values and the Illinois Dems are lacking it.Plus as discussed, your party hasn’t proven itself to be fiscal conservative.

272 Dark_Falcon  Aug 19, 2014 9:44:47pm

re: #268 klys

I’m quite serious and please don’t be a jerk and mock me in that fashion.

Now signing off for real.

273 klys  Aug 19, 2014 9:45:13pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

And that this statement didn’t get a bunch of downdings despite its obvious partisan bullshit should be a wakeup call to you, that people actually seem to give a fuck and want to try to make you see what idiocy you’re saying rather than just downding and move on.

I know it won’t be, and you’re totally fine with voting for people who think that because I have a uterus I deserve to be paid less and pregnant all the time, but whatever.

274 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 9:45:43pm

re: #262 Teukka

I trust the police. But then again, here in Sweden the police training is 2 years of school at a level equivalent of university studies, followed by 6 months of mandatory internship.

What’s the average length of training in the US for police officers?

ahem…

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) Census of State and Local Law Enforcement Training Academies, in 2002 there were 626 state and local law enforcement academies operating in the United States offering basic law enforcement training to individuals recruited or seeking to become law enforcement officers. These include

274 county, regional, or state academies;
249 college, university, or technical school academies; and
103 city or municipal academies.

According to BJS, the median duration of basic recruit training - excluding any field training component - was 18 weeks across all academies with a range anywhere from four weeks to six months. The average class size among all academies ranged from 21 to 32 recruits with larger academies generally having larger class sizes.
- See more at: discoverpolicing.org

275 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:45:44pm

re: #270 Joanne

Not to mention all the toxic waste they leave behind; abortion rights squashed, corporate tax breaks while rising individual taxes, Christ, just look at GOP governors Walker, McDonnell and Scott. Corrupt as any IL gov (and our prisons have a wing for ex-govs).

Or his own state’s Governor Ryan. I mean I admit I don’t live in his state and I won’t pretend I know a thing about Illinois politics but it annoys me that he rags on the state Democratic party’s corruption while ignoring that the state GOP there isn’t exactly pure as snow.

276 klys  Aug 19, 2014 9:45:56pm

re: #272 Dark_Falcon

I’m quite serious and please don’t be a jerk and mock me in that fashion.

Now signing off for real.

I gave your statement exactly as much serious thought as you give your party’s policy positions and respect as your party gives the rest of humanity.

277 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:47:57pm

re: #266 Kragar

Wait, when did the GOP give a damn about finances?

Oh, yeah, when they lost the White House.

“Deficits don’t matter.” Let’s play who said it.

A.) Al Gore

B) John Edwards

C) Joe Biden

D) Dick Cheney

278 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:49:32pm

I am sorry but I find the attempt to laud the GOP’s portrayal of itself as the party of fiscal discipline laughable after having lived through Clinton’s two terms and Bush’s two terms and having had Democratic governors for a vast majority of the past ten years. Plus the whole Republican bit about how they’re better for business than Dems. Well? Virginia is constantly listed as a great state to do business in.

279 klys  Aug 19, 2014 9:49:57pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I am sorry but I find the attempt to laud the GOP’s portrayal of itself as the party of fiscal discipline laughable after having lived through Clinton’s two terms and Bush’s two terms and having had Democratic governors for a vast majority of the past ten years. Plus the whole Republican bit about how they’re better for business than Dems. Well? Virginia is constantly listed as a great state to do business in.

In other words, it’s laughable bullshit.

280 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 9:50:14pm
281 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 9:50:53pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Or his own state’s Governor Ryan. I mean I admit I don’t live in his state and I won’t pretend I know a thing about Illinois politics but it annoys me that he rags on the state Democratic party’s corruption while ignoring that the state GOP there isn’t exactly pure as snow.

I believe almost every living ex-gov in IL is in prison. (I’m from IL. Grew up near DF, just left 3 years ago.) I just can’t imagine a GOP Gov now. They’re all completely nukkin futs. Because that’s what the baggers want. And as fucked up as our state politics is, a GOP Gov would be 1000x worse.

282 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:51:41pm

re: #280 teleskiguy

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Leave it to a comic to make more sense than most cable news broadcasters. No disrespect to Andy of course.

283 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 9:51:50pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

“Deficits don’t matter.” Let’s play who said it.

A.) Al Gore

B) John Edwards

C) Joe Biden

D) Dick Cheney

They only matter when a Dem is in charge. (D)

284 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 9:52:17pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Leave it to a comic to make more sense than most cable news broadcasters. No disrespect to Andy of course.

He probably read it at LGF.

:-D

285 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:53:02pm

re: #284 teleskiguy

He probably read it at LGF.

:-D

See, point made. But in all seriousness, he is a smart guy. I saw some of him on Celebrity jeopardy and he just made Wolf Bltizer look dumb.

286 klys  Aug 19, 2014 9:54:28pm

re: #271 HappyWarrior

By the way honest question DF, what makes you think that the Illinois GOP isn’t through nominating people like Joe Walsh? Really party label aside. What gives you honest hope that these guys that are running this year aren’t jerks like Walsh? And again I hate to sound patronizing but the Democrats aren’t the only crooks in your state. Your last governor before Blago was a Republican and he’s a convicted felon. You can’t always talk about the crooked Illinois Democratic Machine when your state GOP produced George Ryan. Not a defense of the Illinois Dems but it’s dishonest of you to act like the Illinois GOP is some exemplifier of ethical values and the Illinois Dems are lacking it.Plus as discussed, your party hasn’t proven itself to be fiscal conservative.

And the reason I gave DF’s post the response he got is in part because I have asked him the questions like these before and never gotten an answer.

Ever.

287 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:54:35pm

re: #281 Joanne

I believe almost every living ex-gov in IL is in prison. (I’m from IL. Grew up near DF, just left 3 years ago.) I just can’t imagine a GOP Gov now. They’re all completely nukkin futs. Because that’s what the baggers want. And as fucked up as our state politics is, a GOP Gov would be 1000x worse.

Gotcha. VA GOP has gone insane too. i used to think people like George Allen were bad but they’re just the tip of the iceberg in a state party that has people like Bob Fitzsimmons, Bob Marshall, Dick Black, E.W Jackson, Ken Cuccinnelli, and others.

288 teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2014 9:54:59pm
289 TedStriker  Aug 19, 2014 9:57:10pm

re: #272 Dark_Falcon

I’m quite serious and please don’t be a jerk and mock me in that fashion.

Now signing off for real.

It sounds like your fee-fees got hurt and you are once again ducking out because people told you (yet again) what today’s TPGOP has become and you don’t like it and can’t logically defend it.

Not to be rude or to “mock” you, but in this case, reality doesn’t give a good goddamn about your feelings; today’s TPGOP is fucking radioactive to anyone who’s not a rich white male and completely toxic to American political discourse.

But, with you, it’s RAH RAH TEAM, RIGHT OR WRONG, right?

290 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 9:58:23pm

re: #286 klys

And the reason I gave DF’s post the response he got is in part because I have asked him the questions like these before and never gotten an answer.

Ever.

I have too. And he was here rooting for a Cuccinneli victory even with the facts that were presented to him. It’s a political party not your favorite sports team that you grew up watching. It’s a party that makes decisions that can impact yours, mine, and his life for better or for worse and that party is filled with the latter.

291 Jenner7  Aug 19, 2014 9:59:33pm

Someone threw a water bottle, so all hell broke lose in Ferguson….

292 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 9:59:46pm

re: #285 HappyWarrior

See, point made. But in all seriousness, he is a smart guy. I saw some of him on Celebrity jeopardy and he just made Wolf Bltizer look dumb.

That’s not exactly a difficult task. Blitzer lives off his Gulf War days, but god that guy is a dope.

293 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 10:01:33pm

Youtube Video
So this is who I saw tonight at the 9:30 Club. Irish kids. Oldest member is not even 19 and the youngest turns 17 in September. Lads got a good future ahead of them. First rock show for my kid brother too who loved it.

294 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 10:02:38pm

re: #292 Joanne

That’s not exactly a difficult task. Blitzer lives off his Gulf War days, but god that guy is a dope.

Heh true but it was impressive seeing Conan’s sidekick make a CNN anchor look like an airhead. Then again as I’ve observed with Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and now John Oliver some of the smartest guys are in comedy and some of the dumbest are on the news.

295 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 10:02:48pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

Bullshit. Assholes like Rauner want to turn this place into a RWNJ utopia by fucking over the poor and minorities (by heritage and sexual/religious beliefs) and you know it. Your problem is that deep down, you agree with them and are ashamed to admit it. Blago may be in prison but he never got anyone killed like Ryan did. Quinn isn’t perfect and I have my issues with him, but Rauner would destroy this state. No fucking thank you.

296 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 19, 2014 10:04:27pm

re: #291 Jenner7

Someone threw a water bottle, so all hell broke lose in Ferguson….

Any fucking excuse the cops can use, they are going to use it. Screw them.

297 TedStriker  Aug 19, 2014 10:06:27pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Heh true but it was impressive seeing Conan’s sidekick make a CNN anchor look like an airhead. Then again as I’ve observed with Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and now John Oliver some of the smartest guys are in comedy and some of the dumbest are on the news.

You know why, right?

Because good (and great) comedians have to stay on top of current events of all sorts in order to stay at the top of their game, from Bruce to Pryor to Carlin and so on.

298 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 10:07:20pm

re: #297 TedStriker

You know why, right?

Because good (and great) comedians have to stay on top of current events of all sorts in order to stay at the top of their game, from Bruce to Pryor to Carlin and so on.

Of course. Just wish some of our “journalists” would do the same due diligence.

299 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 10:11:20pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Heh true but it was impressive seeing Conan’s sidekick make a CNN anchor look like an airhead. Then again as I’ve observed with Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and now John Oliver some of the smartest guys are in comedy and some of the dumbest are on the news.

Also Al Franken, not everyone’s cup of tea but he is extraordinarily smart.

300 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 10:12:40pm

re: #299 ausador

Also Al Franken, not everyone’s cup of tea but he is extraordinarily smart.

Yeah Harvard guy. Lots of brilliant minds in comedy. The late Robin Williams was pretty smart too. Was reading about how he taught himself Russian for a role he played.

301 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 10:12:56pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Heh true but it was impressive seeing Conan’s sidekick make a CNN anchor look like an airhead. Then again as I’ve observed with Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and now John Oliver some of the smartest guys are in comedy and some of the dumbest are on the news.

It takes a lot if smarts to do comedy, especially political comedy. There are layers if subtext that you have to not just get but be able to get across.

302 WhatEVs  Aug 19, 2014 10:22:51pm

Night all.

303 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 10:22:59pm

Looks like police are ordering the media to return to the command post area again. Had all of those media complying smooshed into one parking lot again. Police just went in and arrested several non-media people in the media area and now they are kicking them all out.

304 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 10:25:41pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I’ll take some Republicans who actually mean what they say when they say keep the government out of people’s lives and that means none of this anti-abortion with no exceptions crap, none of this decrying the end of DOMA, and none of this resistance to marijuana legalization. You claim you’re for individual liberty? Act like it.

When you find one of those rarest of gems, let me know.

305 HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2014 10:27:20pm

re: #304 BeachDem

When you find one of those rarest of gems, let me know.

I think I need to talk to some guy named Doc Brown about that. Rufus wouldn’t be a bad person to consult either. And failing that, Mr. Peabody.

306 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 10:29:28pm

So things are pretty tense all of the sudden again…sigh.

There is an awful lot of media not complying the police orders anymore, as far as staying in the media zone and returning to the command post area. But with police pushing everyone down street they are forced into middle of protestors.

307 BeachDem  Aug 19, 2014 10:34:06pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Leave it to a comic to make more sense than most cable news broadcasters. No disrespect to Andy of course.

Couldn’t resist—when you said Andy Richter and cable news broadcasters together, I just HAD to go there.

Youtube Video

308 klys  Aug 19, 2014 10:35:49pm

Well, my two Robin Williams stand-up DVDs arrived. I’m going to go pay tribute to the man the best way I can - by laughing at his brilliance.

309 goddamnedfrank  Aug 19, 2014 10:44:34pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I’ll take some Republicans who actually mean what they say when they say keep the government out of people’s lives and that means none of this anti-abortion with no exceptions crap, none of this decrying the end of DOMA, and none of this resistance to marijuana legalization. You claim you’re for individual liberty? Act like it.

I’d just be happy to find a Republican who understands that when you say you want to run the government like a business that means wanting to raise revenues. Because there isn’t a single businessman on the entire fucking planet who’s goal is to see their revenues shrink or remain stagnant.

Republicans by and large are just profoundly retarded assholes who like to say shit because they think it sounds good, without ever thinking about what shit actually means.

310 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 10:47:09pm

Police have a good sized crowd surrounded at the McDonalds, making arrests, including one of the legal observers from the lawyers guild. Someone injured police say ambulance called, 5 in cuffs, police still making more arrests…

now eight people detained…more to come it seems…

311 Jenner7  Aug 19, 2014 10:50:56pm

They brought out dogs tonight….sigh…

312 palomino  Aug 19, 2014 10:54:31pm

re: #272 Dark_Falcon

I’m quite serious and please don’t be a jerk and mock me in that fashion.

Now signing off for real.

Are you really so delicate? He merely laughed at your comment and said it was silly. And there’s certainly plenty of evidence supporting his view. Like Kansas under Brownback. Or the whole country under every Republican president over the last 35 years.

If you were really as serious as you claim, you’d back up your contention with something substantive. Instead, you just get the vapors and run away.

313 ausador  Aug 19, 2014 11:18:54pm

Looks like things are pretty much over in Ferguson for the night, practically nobody left on the street but media. Calmest night they have had there since last Thursday, hopefully things stay this way for a while.

314 freetoken  Aug 19, 2014 11:57:33pm
315 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 12:08:07am

drip, drip, drip…

316 teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2014 12:17:33am

I’m having a bit of fun with the hashtag #StonerSongs. I should have been to bed an hour ago.

Nite Lizards.

317 KiTA  Aug 20, 2014 12:26:22am

I really wish the button to show comments wouldn’t add # ctop at the end of the URL. It randomly causes the NEw Comments button to launch you up to the top of the page (Latest Google Chrome).

In other news, Twitter has a soul. Or at least, a committee of middle managers were able to find one in a storage unit someplace:

news.yahoo.com

(Reuters) - Twitter Inc said it will remove images or videos of deceased individuals at the request of family members.

This is in reference to Zelda Williams being driven off twitter by RWNJs and other trolls spamming her with pictures of her father’s corpse (most/all faked).

318 freetoken  Aug 20, 2014 1:57:01am

I wonder if anyone will write an obituary for me.

319 freetoken  Aug 20, 2014 1:57:53am

Strange thoughts one gets in the middle of the night when spending too much time on findagrave.com .

320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 2:02:16am

re: #318 freetoken

I wonder if anyone will write an obituary for me.

I will post an mp3 with three minutes of silence in your honor…

321 freetoken  Aug 20, 2014 2:14:41am
322 goddamnedfrank  Aug 20, 2014 2:20:47am

I swear, people who like Entourage are just the absolute fucking worst. Not necessarily because they’re fans of a show that is by, for, and entirely about douchebags, an audio visual turducken of fuckfaced telecinematic cancer, but because somehow, through some kind of metaphysical property of the physical goddamned universe you cannot find a more reliable litmus test for “is this person an asshole?”

323 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 20, 2014 3:04:50am

teamre: #322 goddamnedfrank

I swear, people who like Entourage are just the absolute fucking worst. Not necessarily because they’re fans of a show that is by, for, and entirely about douchebags, an audio visual turducken of fuckfaced telecinematic cancer, but because somehow, through some kind of metaphysical property of the physical goddamned universe you cannot find a more reliable litmus test for “is this person an asshole?”

My brother and I walked ten minutes of it, and he described the scene as “A couple of assholes obsessing about their own shittiness”.

324 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 3:43:56am

re: #322 goddamnedfrank

I swear, people who like Entourage are just the absolute fucking worst. Not necessarily because they’re fans of a show that is by, for, and entirely about douchebags, an audio visual turducken of fuckfaced telecinematic cancer, but because somehow, through some kind of metaphysical property of the physical goddamned universe you cannot find a more reliable litmus test for “is this person an asshole?”

325 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 4:19:16am

re: #178 Skip Intro

I like “Google me Prick”.

I have “safe search” enabled.

326 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 4:48:47am

Wingnuts are seething that Obama “played golf” (or whatever vacationy thing) while Gen. Harold Greene was buried, but George W. Bush made a point of NEVER attending ANY SOLDIER’S FUNERAL

327 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 4:50:02am

re: #322 goddamnedfrank

I swear, people who like Entourage are just the absolute fucking worst. Not necessarily because they’re fans of a show that is by, for, and entirely about douchebags, an audio visual turducken of fuckfaced telecinematic cancer, but because somehow, through some kind of metaphysical property of the physical goddamned universe you cannot find a more reliable litmus test for “is this person an asshole?”

I’ve never seen Entourage but I’ve used other television programs as litmus tests for other attributes.

Not exactly fair, but given someone of the crap on television, it’s hard not to.

I would elaborate more on some of the television shows I use as tests, but I might accidentally insult someone.

328 BongCrodny  Aug 20, 2014 4:55:46am

re: #261 gwangung

Um, DF….if you haven’t noticed, but the Democrats have been the party of fiscal responsibility for some decades now.

Getting finances under control is a DEMOCRATIC hallmark. See California.

Can’t find the source right now, but it bears repeating:

Every Democratic President since Eisenhower has left office with a smaller deficit than he inherited.

Every Republican President has left office with a larger deficit.

Every Democratic President (except Carter) since Eisenhower has left office with a smaller unemployment rate than when he took office.

Every Republican President (except Reagan) since Eisenhower has left office with a higher unemployment rate than when he took office.

Results. They matter.

329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 4:56:23am

re: #326 Pie-onist Overlord

YouMightBeAConservative if you’re enraged about Obama for occupying the White House against your wishes

330 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 4:57:25am

re: #326 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts are seething that Obama “played golf” (or whatever vacationy thing) while Gen. Harold Greene was buried, but George W. Bush made a point of NEVER attending ANY SOLDIER’S FUNERAL

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I was unfamiliar with that controversy of the day, so I google Harold Greene’s name looking for news coverage and WTF the Washington Examiner is calling bullshit on the RWNJs?

I was wrong. It turns out Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel did, in fact, attend the Greene funeral, a fact I should have known. Before sending out the tweet, I made a couple of perfunctory checks to see whether Hagel had attended, didn’t see him in the news coverage I read and passed on the information without further checking. If I had looked into it just a bit more, I would have seen, for example, a Stars & Stripes article that specifically mentioned Hagel’s presence. Once I saw that, I sent out two tweets correcting the mistake. (As for Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, it was true that neither had attended.)

The Davis tweet was another matter altogether. I did not pass it on, but it was included in the Legal Insurrection post to which I had linked. Davis stated definitively that Nixon had attended the Dillard funeral in 1970 and Bush had attended the Maude funeral in 2001, a “tradition” of presidential attendance that Obama “bucked” by ignoring the Greene funeral. As it turned out, none of that was true, and Davis, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel who played an important role in the War on Terror and who today teaches law at Howard University, knew it when he wrote it.

Curious about what Davis had said, I looked for any sign that Nixon had attended the Dillard funeral. I went to the Nixon Library website, which has posted the minute-by-minute White House logs of Nixon’s activities. They’re very detailed; if Nixon had gone to the general’s funeral, it would have been listed. I looked through the month after Dillard’s death and found no evidence Nixon had attended. Likewise, it turned out Bush did not attend the Maude funeral.

washingtonexaminer.com
If Obama or Biden had gone, the RWNJs would be bitching that he was using the family as “shield” or that it interfered with the family’s mourning, etc., etc. ad nauseum.

331 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 4:57:26am

re: #328 BongCrodny

I recall Rush Limbaugh commenting on the budget surplus under Clinton, namely that it was immoral for the government to take more money from us than it needed to operate…

332 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 5:00:47am

George W. Bush waterboards himself, sort of:

333 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 5:04:07am

re: #322 goddamnedfrank

Um… so, I’m getting a feeling you don’t like Entourage?

Reminds me of House of Lies. As much as I like the actors and the show, they’re all f’ed up people. The ‘good guys’ on the show are only moderately f’ed up and the bad ones are really f’ed up.

The only people not f’ed up are Grandpa and the sexually amorphous/flamboyant son.

334 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 5:15:05am
335 KiTA  Aug 20, 2014 5:17:54am

More fun with the cops. This time, LAPD:

cbsnews.com

The deputies on scene apparently were confused when they saw Winkler “lunging at the back of the fleeing victim,” LASD Chief Bill McSweeney told CBS Los Angeles.

Deputies shot Winkler four times and the other man was shot once. Winkler died from his injuries at a hospital. The other man survived.

(snip)

At some point, Winkler and the victim who had been stabbed managed to escape, only to be shot when they exited the building.

5 shots towards two men, one of which they thought was a victim, and the other a melee combattant. Why didn’t these cops deputies have tazers instead of guns?

336 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 5:21:56am

re: #332 Pie-onist Overlord

George W. Bush waterboards himself, sort of:

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Waterboard Challenge: any torture supporting person should do it to prove it’s not torture.

337 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 5:40:30am

re: #105 Skip Intro

Nothing on Wayback since Aug 17. Google Cache shows the page with the link to the AAPOS site.

Looks like there is a lag. If you go to:

web.archive.org

There are 3 snapshots, 2 from yesterday, 1 from today.

Here is a screen cap of the two from yesterday:

The one on the left was the first snapshot taken. And the “UNIV OF IOWA” is in tact. The one on the right was the last snapshot taken yesterday and the “UNIV OF IOWA” has been scrubbed.

Perhaps he put it up clean and got some emails/tweets wondering if that was Officer Wilson’s CAT scan and he doctored it to make it look more so?

338 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 5:47:08am

re: #337 Franklin

Looks like there is a lag. If you go to:

web.archive.org

There are 3 snapshots, 2 from yesterday, 1 from today.

Here is a screen cap of the two from yesterday:

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The one on the left was the first snapshot taken. And the “UNIV OF IOWA” is in tact. The one on the right was the last snapshot taken yesterday and the “UNIV OF IOWA” has been scrubbed.

Perhaps he put it up clean and got some emails/tweets wondering if that was Officer Wilson’s CAT scan and he doctored it to make it look more so?

Looks like he used Microsoft Paint…

339 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 5:48:57am

re: #338 Timothy Watson

Looks like he used Microsoft Paint…

I think he printed it out, used a black crayon then scanned it back in ;)

340 Alyosha  Aug 20, 2014 5:51:40am

re: #318 freetoken

I wonder if anyone will write an obituary for me.

I haven’t seen Chadu in a while…

341 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 5:52:09am

Disingenuity? From a rightist blogger?

The mind boggles.

re: #318 freetoken

I wonder if anyone will write an obituary for me.

I always took it as a goal to end up with an obit in The Economist (not that I’d know about it, obviously). Short of becoming cannibal-king of the post-apocalyptic Midwestern wasteland that’s probably never going to happen.

:’(

342 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 20, 2014 5:52:58am
343 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 5:53:04am

I’ll bet his excuse is that he’s too rich to know better:

Father of ‘Affluenza’ Teen Arrested for Impersonating a Cop

Ethan Couch, who was famously let off from murder charges with a light sentence after pleading “affluenza,” may have gotten more than a debilitating case of privilege from his family: he may have gotten the criminality from them, too.

Couch’s father Fred was arrested in Fort Worth, TX Tuesday for impersonating a police officer. Couch was found at the scene of a disturbance call last month, and told responding officers that he was a reserve officer with the Lakeside Police Department, even showing them his “police stuff,” an ID and badge.

344 A Mom Anon  Aug 20, 2014 5:54:16am

re: #220 Charles Johnson

One could say, ahem, that well, They Built That. I think we should give them ALL the credit they deserve for it too.

345 Alyosha  Aug 20, 2014 5:54:47am

re: #336 Ryan King

Waterboard Challenge: any torture supporting person should do it to prove it’s not torture.

Still waiting on Hannity and he’s at least as brave as Gov. Perry, judging from some photos I’ve seen.

346 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 5:54:56am

re: #337 Franklin

Look. It’s not just the University of Iowa that is a dead giveaway that he’s pushing nonsense. All of the text on that CT scan image relates to who, what, where, and when that image was taken.

And it’d be easy enough to show that Hoft is trying to pass off the image as that belonging to Wilson. Or, in the least malicious version of events, that he’s simply trying to use the image to show what a blowout looks like, and others are interpreting this to be Wilson’s scans.

347 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 5:55:41am

re: #342 NJDhockeyfan

When asked for comment, Xi Jinping fell into gales of laughter, finally replying “Come at me, bro” after catching his breath.

348 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 5:58:12am

re: #342 NJDhockeyfan

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North Korea playing China as a new boogeyman? Good luck with all of that Young-One.

349 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 6:04:05am

Pointing right back to this article. Wait, hope I didn’t open some black whole or tear the space-time-continuum or something!

350 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 6:04:08am

re: #4 Pie-onist Overlord

This BS is spreading around Teh Twitters faster than last month’s bogus story about the SIX STAR RESORT FOR ILLEGALS!!!!!!!

My sister-in-law is (was, at this point, she got a job as a teacher last week) an NCCC volunteer. She happened to visit one of these “resorts”. They’re enormous airplane hangers filled with little kids.

A nine year old got a fruit rollup for her birthday. She was reduced to tears by this unexpected bounty.

Fuck these rightist assholes with a rusty spoon. Hard.

E: Wow, time-machine on that comment. Still, worth saying.

351 BustersView  Aug 20, 2014 6:08:15am

First, the image is clearly labeled as a file photo in Gateway Pundit’s story. Second, your only “evidence” that the officer was not injured as the “sources” claim is a blurry video from the crime scene.

This is a junk story, pure and simple. As with nearly everything else about this shooting, we will have to wait for public confirmation from the investigation(s). Lame LGF, very lame.

352 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 6:11:27am

re: #351 BustersView

First, the image is clearly labeled as a file photo in Gateway Pundit’s story. Second, your only “evidence” that the officer was not injured as the “sources” claim is a blurry video from the crime scene.

This is a junk story, pure and simple. As with nearly everything else about this shooting, we will have to wait for public confirmation from the investigation(s). Lame LGF, very lame.

Why, if he was using this as a file photo, would he scrub the UNIV OF IOWA from the photo?

353 andres  Aug 20, 2014 6:12:37am

re: #352 Franklin

Why, if he was using this as a file photo, would he scrub the UNIV OF IOWA from the photo?

And more importantly, why did he tried to pass it as if it was given by the Prosecuting Attorney?

354 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 6:12:58am

re: #352 Franklin

Why, if he was using this as a file photo, would he scrub the UNIV OF IOWA from the photo?

Because he was originally using it as “Officer Wilson’s X-Ray” until he was outed by LGF.

355 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 6:13:11am

re: #353 andres

And more importantly, why did he tried to pass it as if it was given by the Prosecuting Attorney?

Because he is a lying sack of shit.

356 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 20, 2014 6:14:16am

re: #351 BustersView

Please don’t feed the troll.

357 Alyosha  Aug 20, 2014 6:14:57am

re: #351 BustersView

Bustedview.

358 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 6:16:32am

re: #351 BustersView

The junk is that Gateway has stealth edited the story numerous times as noted by Franklin above. Hoft posted unsubstantiated claims about a blowout fracture that are not corroborated by any other news outlet anywhere.

Those outlets that are reporting this story are only repeating what Hoft posted. They haven’t independently confirmed anything.

That’s newsworthy in its own right.

Hoft’s readers are reflexively reposting and spreading this story across the web, seeing it make its way to Drudge, the Post, and other outlets without any independent confirmation.

That’s a blowout of a different sort.

Hoft is engaging in a malicious smear designed to give Wilson the reason to shoot and kill Brown - that he feared for his life, and that he suffered a serious injury.

It’s all meant to undermine the fact that Brown was unarmed and killed by Wilson and all the other witnesses who have come forward state that Brown was surrendering all while Wilson fired on him, including the fatal shot.

359 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 6:16:54am

re: #351 BustersView

360 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 6:17:15am

re: #354 Pie-onist Overlord

Because he was originally using it as “Officer Wilson’s X-Ray” until he was outed by LGF.

It’s actually the opposite. See my: #337

littlegreenfootballs.com

It was originally put up with the UNIV OF IOWA, then he scrubbed it out to make it look like the Officers X-Ray. And it remains like that today.

361 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 6:19:18am
BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack %P% the Gateway Pundit.

Wonder if Hoft knows what Michael Brown suffered in the attack?

//

362 Alyosha  Aug 20, 2014 6:23:56am

re: #361 Bulworth

Wonder if Hoft knows what Michael Brown suffered in the attack?

//

Apparently he punched Officer Wilson so hard it caused a bullet-like ‘blowout’ injury to his palm. True story.

363 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 6:26:50am

Hoft must be confusing eye wounds as Brown suffered a bullet wound through the eye.

not sure if /

364 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 6:29:26am

re: #360 Franklin

It’s actually the opposite. See my: #337

littlegreenfootballs.com

It was originally put up with the UNIV OF IOWA, then he scrubbed it out to make it look like the Officers X-Ray. And it remains like that today.

What I meant was, Hoft grabbed the U-Iowa image to present as Wilson’s “X-ray” until he was outed.

365 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 6:30:44am

Morning all.

Going to be interesting day in Missouri as Attorney General Holder arrives to talk with the people of Ferguson and to kick off the Federal investigation into the Michael Brown shooting.

That means the RWNJs will be going crazy saying he is interfering, grandstanding, turning it racial…all of their usual crap.

If Dark happens to be around reading, I’d like to ask him if his hope for a Republican to fix the state budget means forcing the small county and city governments to pick up the slack or suffer the consequences of losing state monies?

Seems most states that have a tax-lowering, budget-balancing Republican savior is finding out the hard way that smaller governments are taking a beating to make the Governator’s books look good. Or, you have the Kansas phenom Gov. Sam Brownback’s cut, cut, cut and cut your knees off in the meantime.

Maybe Dark could provide an example of how this budget magic will work?

Okay everyone…get your ‘winger media Eric Holder hating helmets on. There is going to be shrapnel.

366 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 6:30:54am

re: #351 BustersView

First, the image is clearly labeled as a file photo in Gateway Pundit’s story. Second, your only “evidence” that the officer was not injured as the “sources” claim is a blurry video from the crime scene.

This is a junk story, pure and simple. As with nearly everything else about this shooting, we will have to wait for public confirmation from the investigation(s). Lame LGF, very lame.

And the lack of a police report documenting the injury, and the lack of a report of an ambulance getting rolled to the scene. And that the cops don’t seem to be even administering first aid (barring the possibility that Ferguson police officers are particularly skilled in long-range psychic surgery and are, in fact, practicing this on their fellow officer in the photos that show them with their back to their supposedly wounded comrade).

But yes, no evidence. None at all.

Do feel free to continue your calls to ignore the shooting of a citizen in the street by one of that citizen’s sworn protectors. I’m totally sure the department’s rubber “good shoot” stamp internal review process will ensure justice.

367 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 6:34:16am

re: #364 Pie-onist Overlord

Ahh, gotcha. I get it :)

368 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 6:37:47am

This wingnut is confused, has “Eric Holder” mixed up with “Jim Hoft”

369 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 6:41:38am

re: #368 Pie-onist Overlord

This wingnut is confused, has “Eric Holder” mixed up with “Jim Hoft”

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This wingnut, apparently, is advocating physical violence against the AGOTUS. That seems like a smart thing to have done.

370 darthstar  Aug 20, 2014 6:42:05am

re: #365 ObserverArt

Republicans fantasize about having the Brownback situation, where there is no opposition and they can cut without mercy…but when it happens, as it has in Kansas, and they see just how dreadful their policies are, they start crying, “Save us from ourselves!” and are now backing a Democrat to replace Brownback.

They’re much more effective as a minority party getting concessions from a Democratic (and reasonable) majority. They should embrace that reality.

371 Lancelot Link  Aug 20, 2014 6:43:26am

re: #365 ObserverArt

Okay everyone…get your ‘winger media Eric Holder hating helmets on. There is going to be shrapnel.

Hopefully, only verbal shrapnel.

372 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 6:43:42am

I’m shocked. Shocked, that the percentages of people moving out of NY has remained relatively stable since the mid 1970s, when there was a sharp uptick (likely timed with the NYC and NYS fiscal crisis). That’s despite the claims that NY has become a tax burden to everyone and people are moving away in droves that are repeated ad nauseum.

Turns out that the uptick are to places that are a lot warmer, like Florida or Arizona and California, but every state has seen outflows increase over the years as we’ve become more mobile as a society. Even Texas has seen an uptick, as 91% of people stayed in the state in 1900 but it’s down to 82% in the most recent year. NY went from 79% to 61%, so there’s much more movement away. Florida went from 90% to 74%. Louisiana went from 90% to 71%. Oklahoma went from 85% to 65%.

Bucking the move away trend? Nevada. Nevada has seen an increase from 52 to 65%.

nytimes.com

373 Alyosha  Aug 20, 2014 6:44:19am

re: #368 Pie-onist Overlord

Pretty sure, as the nutbar-insane narrative goes, that Holder gets Mexican cartels to do his shooting for him as per Fast and Furious. Good thing, too, since it ties two competing narratives together. I, too, could be an ‘award winning journalist’.

374 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 6:46:53am
375 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 6:54:33am

re:
#351

This is a junk story, pure and simple.

You’re quite right that Hoft’s eye-socket post is a junk story. Quite right.

/

376 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 6:56:06am

HURR HURR LIBTARDS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!!!

377 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 6:57:59am

re: #374 lawhawk

Gawker is crowd-sourcing a list of every police-involved shooting in America because there’s no single official list regressing.deadspin.com

Hey! I mentioned someone on the ‘net needed to create such a list/database just last week in a comment. This is good. It should already have been done, but this is a start.

378 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 7:00:33am

re: #376 Pie-onist Overlord

Bwahahaha!!! Move on. JFC.

379 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 7:02:11am

Unfreaking real:

Those f*ckers have now gone too far, they’re making defend InfoWars people.

//

380 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 7:04:55am

re: #372 lawhawk

I’m shocked. Shocked, that the percentages of people moving out of NY has remained relatively stable since the mid 1970s, when there was a sharp uptick (likely timed with the NYC and NYS fiscal crisis). That’s despite the claims that NY has become a tax burden to everyone and people are moving away in droves that are repeated ad nauseum.

Turns out that the uptick are to places that are a lot warmer, like Florida or Arizona and California, but every state has seen outflows increase over the years as we’ve become more mobile as a society. Even Texas has seen an uptick, as 91% of people stayed in the state in 1900 but it’s down to 82% in the most recent year. NY went from 79% to 61%, so there’s much more movement away. Florida went from 90% to 74%. Louisiana went from 90% to 71%. Oklahoma went from 85% to 65%.

Bucking the move away trend? Nevada. Nevada has seen an increase from 52 to 65%.

nytimes.com

I suspect as the dataset goes on Nevada will drop off. The real estate bubble hit LV hard, and I can’t imagine it was particularly positive for the rest of the state, either.

381 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:05:33am

re: #328 BongCrodny

Can’t find the source right now, but it bears repeating:

Every Democratic President since Eisenhower has left office with a smaller deficit than he inherited.

Every Republican President has left office with a larger deficit.

Every Democratic President (except Carter) since Eisenhower has left office with a smaller unemployment rate than when he took office.

Every Republican President (except Reagan) since Eisenhower has left office with a higher unemployment rate than when he took office.

Results. They matter.

I believe it. The fact of the matter is “fiscal responsibility” in a Republican’s eyes is “cut social programs but don’t consider raising taxes because our wealthy donors will have a sad and don’t touch the defense budget even though we spend much more on defense than the social programs we claim caused the deficit.” Frankly, the tax and spend Democrat is a myth concievied by a party that lost the fiscal conservative debate years ago. Ironically the most fiscally conservative Republicans were ones like Ike and Ford who are now seen as RINOs. They also consequently would have never been beholden to a stupid no taxes pledge because they and their advisers understood economic reality. Today’s Republicans OTOH just think they can cut taxes for the very wealthy and cut social programs and that’s a good model for an economy.

382 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:06:03am
383 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:06:39am

re: #307 BeachDem

Couldn’t resist—when you said Andy Richter and cable news broadcasters together, I just HAD to go there.

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Nah, that’s what I was thinking about it heh and it was glorious.

384 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 7:06:59am

What country do I live in?

385 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:10:32am

This is exactly why white people should stop whining about “racism against whites”

386 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:11:31am

re: #385 Pie-onist Overlord

This is exactly why white people should stop whining about “racism against whites”

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Funny Ben how you never condemn white people who claim that they’re the most discriminated against in Obama’s America but you’re all too eager to accuse minorities of “crying wolf.” Why is that Eddie Muenster?

387 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:12:56am

re:
#385

I see. So whenever racism is claimed you can say it is just crying wolf and you and your tribe don’t have to take it seriously. So you’ll continue being irrelevant and unhelpful then. Thanks.

388 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:14:04am

re: #387 Bulworth

re:
#385

I see. So whenever racism is claimed you can say it is just crying wolf and you and your tribe don’t have to take it seriously. So you’ll continue being irrelevant and unhelpful then. Thanks.

Yes, that’s the conservative approach to racism. Ignore, ignore. and then accuse the person of crying wolf. No thanks, I’ll take the liberal approach which is actually looking at it. Shapiro like most of his fellow conservatives severely lacks empathy.

389 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 20, 2014 7:14:09am
390 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 7:14:12am
391 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:15:53am

LOLWHUT

392 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 7:16:59am

So are we all still waiting on the Murder 2 juvie rap we were promised by this guy?

393 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:18:12am

re:
#391

Let me guess: libertee over tireny wants everyone in Ferguson to shut up and go home. #1A

394 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:19:54am

re:
#392

No, we’re supposed to accept that as Confirmed. FACT. and add it to the rest of the wingnut narrative.

/

395 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 7:20:28am

re: #393 Bulworth

re:
#391

Let me guess: libertee over tireny wants everyone in Ferguson to shut up and go home. #1A

Silly. “Liberty” means “We get to own Ni*CLANG*s, and the Ni*CLANG*s get to be owned by us (and they’re all so shiftless and lazy, we’re really doing them a favor!)”

396 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:21:54am

re: #392 Schadenboner

So are we all still waiting on the Murder 2 juvie rap we were promised by this guy?

MO rejected his FOIA request, much butthurt ensued.

397 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:22:02am

re: #351 BustersView

A dump and run job from a fan of the biggest liar on the web.

398 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 7:24:14am

re: #397 Charles Johnson

A dump and run job from a fan of the biggest liar on the web.

I think this is unfair. We were pretty mean to him, demanding that he do things like “source his statements” and “defend his assertions”.

So he took his little rage balls and went home to the Malkin Flying Monkey House.

I, for one, mourn his departure.

399 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:27:02am
400 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:29:22am

Racist piece of shit.

401 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:30:34am
402 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 7:31:12am
403 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:31:50am
404 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 7:33:02am

Guess it shouldn’t surprise me that I wake up to check my usual boards and find the wingnuts perpetuating the “dozens of witnesses” BS.

405 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 7:33:19am

re: #391 Pie-onist Overlord

LOLWHUT

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Any idea what 1a and 2a are?

406 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 7:33:35am

re: #372 lawhawk

I’m shocked. Shocked, that the percentages of people moving out of NY has remained relatively stable since the mid 1970s, when there was a sharp uptick (likely timed with the NYC and NYS fiscal crisis). That’s despite the claims that NY has become a tax burden to everyone and people are moving away in droves that are repeated ad nauseum.

Turns out that the uptick are to places that are a lot warmer, like Florida or Arizona and California, but every state has seen outflows increase over the years as we’ve become more mobile as a society. Even Texas has seen an uptick, as 91% of people stayed in the state in 1900 but it’s down to 82% in the most recent year. NY went from 79% to 61%, so there’s much more movement away. Florida went from 90% to 74%. Louisiana went from 90% to 71%. Oklahoma went from 85% to 65%.

Bucking the move away trend? Nevada. Nevada has seen an increase from 52 to 65%.

nytimes.com

Run that against an aging population. Take out retirees and you’re probably even more stable.

407 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 7:33:41am

re: #399 Charles Johnson

A mindset that is quite similar to those of the very police that are at the heart of the Brown shooting - both the STL county police and FPD officers have considered the communities they police to be non-human, and dehumanize them at most every opportunity - from the racial disparity in police stops to the use of excessive force to how they responded to peaceful protests with overwhelming force.

Not surprising. Not shocking.

It’s no wonder that his followers/commenters are grasping at every straw(man) and every smear that somehow explains away Wilson’s shooting of an unarmed black man.

You have to wonder if Hoft will next try to claim that Brown tried (and failed) to use the 5 point palm exploding heart technique on Wilson, and that’s why Wilson shot him dead.

Youtube Video

408 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:34:22am

re: #405 Joanne

Any idea what 1a and 2a are?

He think my meme making fun of his meme was a violation of his FIRST AMENDMENT RITES!!!!!!

409 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 20, 2014 7:35:59am
410 Sherlock Hound  Aug 20, 2014 7:37:09am

re: #405 Joanne

Shorthand: 1A = First Amendment, 2A = Second Amendment.
Mind you, the 2nd Amendment is the only one printed on their little pocket copies of the Constitution.

411 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:37:15am

re:
#405

1A=First Amendment, 2A=Second Amendment

412 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:37:36am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Racist piece of shit.

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He can’t help himself, Charles. His Klan robe is in the dry cleaners.

413 aagcobb  Aug 20, 2014 7:37:42am

re: #372 lawhawk

I’m shocked. Shocked, that the percentages of people moving out of NY has remained relatively stable since the mid 1970s, when there was a sharp uptick (likely timed with the NYC and NYS fiscal crisis). That’s despite the claims that NY has become a tax burden to everyone and people are moving away in droves that are repeated ad nauseum.

Turns out that the uptick are to places that are a lot warmer, like Florida or Arizona and California, but every state has seen outflows increase over the years as we’ve become more mobile as a society. Even Texas has seen an uptick, as 91% of people stayed in the state in 1900 but it’s down to 82% in the most recent year. NY went from 79% to 61%, so there’s much more movement away. Florida went from 90% to 74%. Louisiana went from 90% to 71%. Oklahoma went from 85% to 65%.

Bucking the move away trend? Nevada. Nevada has seen an increase from 52 to 65%.

nytimes.com

Everyone is fleeing New York City, as evidenced by the skyrocketing costs of residential real estate and severe housing shortage there./

414 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:37:48am
415 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 7:38:38am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

He think my meme making fun of his meme was a violation of his FIRST AMENDMENT RITES!!!!!!

Thanks. I get it now…but it still doesn’t make sense. Then again, most times they make no sense at all anyway, so I am not sure what I was expecting.

416 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:38:43am

re:
#410

hurr hurr no we also luv 1A because it means Murica a Christian nation!!!11

417 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:39:16am

Honestly, I don’t care if he has a fractured eye socket or not. You seriously think that he had to fire eight rounds at the kid? But as I said, I just don’t believe it for the reasons made here.

418 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:39:48am

re:
#414

And Michael Brown, who was unarmed, is still dead.

419 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 7:40:45am

re: #414 Charles Johnson

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And now they have complete cover to run with this on every right wing talk and tv show. “See! It was in the paper!”

Coz that’s how they roll.

420 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 7:41:00am

re: #418 Bulworth

re:
#414

And Michael Brown, who was unarmed, is still dead.

Yep. That fact still is there wingnuts. Keep on trying to rationalize Officer Wilson committing an act of homicide.

421 aagcobb  Aug 20, 2014 7:41:06am

re: #410 Sherlock Hound

Shorthand: 1A = First Amendment, 2A = Second Amendment.
Mind you, the 2nd Amendment is the only one printed on their little pocket copies of the Constitution.

And only the edited version “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

422 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 7:42:03am

re: #384 b.d.

What country do I live in?

“Get that camera out of my fucking face.” — officer who pointed gun at protestors

The same one you’ve always lived in, but not the one you were told you live in.

423 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:42:21am

re: #415 Joanne

Thanks. I get it now…but it still doesn’t make sense. Then again, most times they make no sense at all anyway, so I am not sure what I was expecting.

He’s all butthurt because I debunked his stupid meme==>

424 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 7:42:29am

I’m sure the cops will come out and set the record straight whether the shooting cop had a broken eyeball or not.

//

425 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:42:45am
426 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 7:44:03am

The RWNJs’ ignorance on display: orbital blowout

Whatever happened to St. Ronny’s: “Trust, but verify”

427 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:44:33am

Well shit, the Derpola virus from Gatewaypundit has now spread into the general population.

People will die from Derpes.

428 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 7:44:44am

re: #414 Charles Johnson

nypost.com

Mission accomplished.

429 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 7:47:27am

The wingnuts’ talking points are always absurd, but the derpiest is “all the golf” Obama plays.

430 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 7:47:35am

re: #428 Decatur Deb

Mission accomplished.

Clickbait editorial at bottom of page:

Hey, ladies — catcalls are flattering! Deal with it

NY Post is a cesspool.

431 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 7:48:19am

re: #428 Decatur Deb

Mission accomplished.

But hey, they want to wait for all the facts.

////

432 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:48:27am

Who is Mychal Massie and why is he tweeting this fake picture

433 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:48:39am

WOW. Opening paragraph:

The black teen killed by a white cop in Ferguson, Mo., viciously attacked the officer as he sat in his patrol car, delivering a bone-crunching punch that shattered the cop’s eye socket, a report claimed Tuesday.

Unreal.

434 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2014 7:48:45am

re: #422 Decatur Deb

I really wish certain advocacy websites were not so damn shrill. Case in point PINAC

They have an article about a guy that was arrested for recording a stop and frisk arrest. The guy won $125,000 from NYC in a settlement. Good to see right? Then they go here…

So it’s no wonder Ferber didn’t care that he knew his actions were unlawful because he knew he would never be held liable.

No, that obligation falls to the people of New York who are forced to live under this lawless regime.

Very disappointing.

435 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:50:26am

Why don’t you use this for an illustration Jim?

(White people in Vancouver burn a cop car when their team lost the Stanley Cup)

436 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 7:52:31am
437 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2014 7:52:42am

re: #433 Charles Johnson

“12 witnesses saw” retracted.
the “JJ” video-Useless.
“X ray of injury”-Debunked
“a report claimed” Srsly?

Did I miss any?

Whack A Mole.

438 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 7:53:40am

re: #433 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft’s blog post = ‘a report.’

As if he’s some intrepid reporter on a fact finding mission.

439 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:04am

“Facts” as determined in the last week:

- “Josie” contradicts several eyewitnesses, citing stuff she heard from Wilson’s wife, and instantly becomes considered a credible “witness.”

- Byers tweets that anonymous source within FPD says “more than a dozen” witnesses corroborate Wilson’s version of events.

- FPD releases “robbery” video, then immediately says it has nothing to do with the shooting despite it fitting “thug” narrative.

- And now, anonymous source within county prosecutor’s office says Wilson suffered an orbital blowout fracture of his eyesocket.

Anyone noticing a trend?

440 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:09am
441 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:18am

re: #419 Joanne

And now they have complete cover to run with this on every right wing talk and tv show. “See! It was in the paper!”

Coz that’s how they roll.

Well, we have Godwins and Gish Gallops, so maybe we need a Cheney Facts convention/tactic.

That would be the way Cheney got the yellow cake Iraq making nukes lie out to a sympathetic journalist who then reported it as an fact from an unnamed source (Cheney) and then published in the N.Y. Times, whereupon Cheney went on Meet The press and said “it has been reported” that Iraq had the stuff to make nukes.

I think some of the authors like Huxley and Orwell would be stunned by how the truth and facts are manipulated out of pure bullshit.

442 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:26am

And who exactly were the 12 witnesses? Do we know who they are, their names, their jobs, etc? 12 witnesses, like it’s some “We Saw the Golden Plates from the Angel Moroni” thing.

443 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:26am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord

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Why don’t you use this for an illustration Jim?
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(White people in Vancouver burn a cop car when their team lost the Stanley Cup)

Why do I think that no one would be able to just wander up to an unattended cop car with a can of spray paint in Ferguson?

444 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:33am

re: #437 Rightwingconspirator

“12 witnesses saw” retracted.
the “JJ” video-Useless.
“X ray of injury”-Debunked
“a report claimed” Srsly?

Did I miss any?

Whack A Mole.

Shots fired!!!! Fireworks
Officer down!!!! Never happened.
Snipers!!!!! National Guard in plain sight.

445 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 7:54:33am
446 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 7:55:36am

re: #351 BustersView

Oh look.

A hatchling.

447 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 7:56:50am

re: #426 Dr. Matt

The RWNJs’ ignorance on display: orbital blowout

Whatever happened to St. Ronny’s: “Trust, but verify”

Small print: Unless it’s a Democrat saying it, then nevermind.

448 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 7:56:51am

re: #432 Pie-onist Overlord

Who is Mychal Massie and why is he tweeting this fake picture

Advanced stage of Derpity Virus.

449 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 7:57:12am

re: #446 wrenchwench

Oh look.

A hatchling.

More like turd.

450 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 7:57:38am

re: #445 Charles Johnson

ZOMG the irony. She had tweeted at @cunyjschool just hours before. Journalism FTW!

451 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 7:58:21am

re: #432 Pie-onist Overlord

Who is Mychal Massie and why is he tweeting this fake picture

452 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 7:58:37am

re: #427 Pie-onist Overlord

Well shit, the Derpola virus from Gatewaypundit has now spread into the general population.

People will die from Derpes.

I think it is like shingles coming from the chickenpox virus. These people are already diseased and all they need is a whiff of Derpola to break out again.

And again.

And again.

453 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2014 7:58:41am

re: #446 wrenchwench

Oh look.

A hatchling.

This one smells fishy. Throw it back.

454 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 7:59:32am

re: #429 Kid A

The wingnuts’ talking points are always absurd, but the derpiest is “all the golf” Obama plays.

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They forget all the Bush 2 brush clearing extravaganzas. He took more vacation time than any sitting president. But that doesn’t matter. It’s a Dem.

I honestly think that racism is secondary (and for a percentage of GOPers). The #1 issue is Democrat. And no matter the Dem, it would be the same thing, only with less racism or sexism. Limbaugh wouldn’t change. Fox wouldn’t change. Levin, Beck, et al, wouldn’t change. They would just have on less thing to bitch about (race or sex). The Democrat part would remain the same as would all the outrage.

455 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 7:59:50am
456 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 8:01:17am

re: #455 Pie-onist Overlord

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Banning The Intercept!?!?!? How will they keep up with their bimonthly blog posts?!?!?

457 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2014 8:02:11am

Recall any of the angst over all the public area cameras in places like London and NYC? I admit to mixed feelings myself depending on how the footage is used etc.

i also can not escape what a different narrative we would have about this shooting if there had been similar cameras there. Maybe body cams is a better answer but still…

458 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 8:02:25am
459 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 8:02:31am

re: #450 Franklin

ZOMG the irony. She had tweeted at @cunyjschool just hours before. Journalism FTW!

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Countdown to the RWNJs using this as evidence of the public school system’s decay… 3… 2…

460 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 8:02:33am

re: #441 ObserverArt

Apparently 1984 was an instruction manual to some.

461 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 8:03:43am

re: #460 Joanne

Apparently 1984 was an instruction manual to some.

With their focus on inborn inferiority surely Huxley is the better comparison?

462 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 8:03:47am

Seriously, let’s think about this for a second. If the Ferguson PD had over a cop with a very obvious injury, an autopsy that corroborated his version of events, and over a dozen witnesses who were willing to testify to having seen the very same events, why would they be hiding all of it?

463 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:05:23am

Shorter Wayne Allyn Root: HURR DURR HERPTY DERP. ELEVENTY!

Wayne Allyn Root: Obama Using Ferguson To Start A Race War, Declare Martial Law

Obama has stirred the pot for six years now. Black against white. Rich against poor. Men against women. Republicans against Democrats. Private sector against public servants. Taxpayers against the tax takers. Obama needs “division.” Race warfare. Class warfare. Anger. Resentment. Civil war. America is bursting at the seams. It’s all part of the agenda. It’s all part of the Cloward-Piven plan we learned as classmates at Columbia University, Class of ‘83. Obama desperately needs to distract the people to carry out his plan to destroy this country. He is following the plan to a T.

464 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2014 8:06:31am

re: #441 ObserverArt

Well, we have Godwins and Gish Gallops, so maybe we need a Cheney Facts convention/tactic.

That would be the way Cheney got the yellow cake Iraq making nukes lie out to a sympathetic journalist who then reported it as an fact from an unnamed source (Cheney) and then published in the N.Y. Times, whereupon Cheney went on Meet The press and said “it has been reported” that Iraq had the stuff to make nukes.

I think some of the authors like Huxley and Orwell would be stunned by how the truth and facts are manipulated out of pure bullshit.

Doubt it. There were some 1930s organizations well-organized and very dedicated to promoting and cycling lies as the truth in order to manipulate the citizenry.

465 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:06:48am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord


(reweeted by Antonio French).

The car was parked in South St. Louis - the opposite end of the greater STL area from Ferguson.

466 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:07:22am

re: #462 Targetpractice

Seriously, let’s think about this for a second. If the Ferguson PD had over a cop with a very obvious injury, an autopsy that corroborated his version of events, and over a dozen witnesses who were willing to testify to having seen the very same events, why would they be hiding all of it?

Are you kidding? If they had all that stuff they’d be blaring it from the goddamn mountaintops. We’d be seeing Wilson’s bruised, broken face plastered all over the news. The autopsy and incident reports would have come out the next day. They wouldn’t be hiding shit if Dim Hoft’s fantasies were true.

467 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2014 8:07:29am

re: #446 wrenchwench

Oh look.

A hatchling.

That was a cuckoo’s egg laid by a troll-bird though.

468 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 8:07:48am

Orbital Blowout Fracture = Stand Down Order = Steel Melts at 2400 degrees but paper burns at 1800!

This one was here to stay the first Tweet.

469 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 8:08:23am

re: #465 lawhawk

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(reweeted by Antonio French).

The car was parked in South St. Louis - the opposite end of the greater STL area from Ferguson.

I’d sooner believe the white communist agitators in the crowd had something to do with this than black protestors traveling all that way just to spray paint a few cars.

470 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 8:08:55am

re:
#463

[wingnut] Obama The GOPteabagger Party has stirred the pot for six years now. Black against white. Rich against poor. Men against women. Republicans against Democrats. Private sector against public servants. Taxpayers against the tax takers. The GOPteabag Party Obama needs “division.” Race warfare. Class warfare. Anger. Resentment. Civil war. America is bursting at the seams. It’s all part of the agenda. [wingnut]

He describes the GOPteabagger Party agenda pretty well.

471 bubba zanetti  Aug 20, 2014 8:09:04am
The car was parked in South St. Louis - the opposite end of the greater STL area from Ferguson.

I must say that is the the most whitebread graffiti I have ever seen. Even dotted the ‘i’.

472 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 8:09:58am

re: #465 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

(reweeted by Antonio French).

The car was parked in South St. Louis - the opposite end of the greater STL area from Ferguson.

“Revolt” sounds like the wandering minstrels of the RCP.

473 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 8:10:36am

re: #471 bubba zanetti

I must say that is the the most whitebread graffiti I have ever seen. Even dotted the ‘i’.

Splinter group of the Modern Language Association.

474 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:11:51am

re: #471 bubba zanetti

I must say that is the the most whitebread graffiti I have ever seen. Even dotted the ‘i’.

ROFL I didn’t even notice that. Yeah, definitely whitebread.

475 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 8:13:26am

re: #385 Pie-onist Overlord

This is exactly why white people should stop whining about “racism against whites”

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Ben wouldn’t take charges of racism seriously at a lynching.

476 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 8:13:29am

re: #435 Pie-onist Overlord

[Embedded content]

Why don’t you use this for an illustration Jim?
[Embedded image]
(White people in Vancouver burn a cop car when their team lost the Stanley Cup)

Hey, at least they didn’t spray “tuna can” on the car (really old local story).

I knew the kid in high school (I was a sophomore in HS when that happened) that was alleged to have done that, not sure if he was ever charged or not.

477 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:14:22am

Wow so journalism very prize

478 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 8:15:36am

re: #461 Schadenboner

With their focus on inborn inferiority surely Huxley is the better comparison?

And that is why I mentioned both Huxley and Orwell. Add them together and this is just about where we are in reality. Sadly.

479 Jenner7  Aug 20, 2014 8:16:06am

re: #440 Franklin

I’m surprised this photo didn’t make it on CNN or Fox….

480 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 8:16:08am
BustersView (-23)

Impressive.

481 Stanley Sea  Aug 20, 2014 8:17:45am

re: #476 Timothy Watson

Hey, at least they didn’t spray “tuna can” on the car (really old local story).

I knew the kid in high school (I was a sophomore in HS when that happened) that was alleged to have done that, not sure if he was ever charged or not.

That is such a folksy written article. Ah, small towns.

482 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 8:17:56am

re: #413 aagcobb

Everyone is fleeing New York City, as evidenced by the skyrocketing costs of residential real estate and severe housing shortage there./

Same with San Francisco, where the exodus is so strong landlords are having to raise the rent on 900 sf apartments to the mid 4 figures just to lure tenants back.

483 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 8:20:28am

Can these people not read or do they just completely lack the ability to reason? Wingnuts busily spreading rumor that her tweet means that the paper suspended her for trying to “tell the truth.”

484 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:21:17am

re: #440 Franklin

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Wait now I’m confused. I thought wingnuts liked people posing with guns.

485 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:21:26am

re: #475 Skip Intro

Ben wouldn’t take charges of racism seriously at a lynching.

The entire RWNJ wing would call a lynching a DEMOCRAT PLANT while the Alex Jones loons would scream FALSE FLAG.

486 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 8:21:38am

re: #473 Decatur Deb

Splinter group of the Modern Language Association.

My 5th grade English teacher was a known tagger.

That was way back in ‘64 too. Way ahead of her time. Say something stupid and boy would you get tagged! WHAP!!!

487 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 8:36:58am

re: #351 BustersView

Two sources within St Louis PD and confirmed by me and my mom state that you have Derpity Virus. GET.HELP.NOW.

488 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 8:58:10am

re: #478 ObserverArt

And that is why I mentioned both Huxley and Orwell. Add them together and this is just about where we are in reality. Sadly.

Derp. Didn’t read the OP in the quote-chain!

489 EPR-radar  Aug 20, 2014 2:26:51pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Baloney. The Dems will be the death of this state if they aren’t reigned in and them losing the governorship will be a good start on getting Illinois’ finances back under control.

Late hit on a dead thread, but I can’t resist.

The threat of losing to Republicans is useful to keep arrogant/corrupt Democrats in line. I have no illusions as to how one-party rule usually works out at the state and local level.

However, Republicans are simply incapable of governance. If a Republican officeholder is not obliged to pander to hateful elements of the GOP base, then he or she will be obliged to engage in big-business friendship exercises that, when legal, are usually just corruption made legal.

490 mid_aged_man  Aug 20, 2014 2:33:25pm

Sidebar on Sub-Orbital Fractures:
My 17 year old had that exact injury on Saturday. Riding in the back of an atv (no helmet), the driver turned sharply and the whole thing rolled over. My son flew through the air and hit a guard rail.

His face was cut a bit, red and a little swollen, but the ER was about to release him, thinking there was no need for a CT. He then blew his nose and the left side of his face literally inflated like a balloon. Then a CT and confirmation of a blown orbital.

Wilson, like my son, could have hung around the scene for quite some time before the fracture fully presented itself. Who knows?

491 Disappointedem  Aug 20, 2014 4:42:10pm

The real liar is charles johnson because the gatewaypundit provides a link to the original AAPOS cite. Hey, but someone on the left wouldn’t lie, would they?

492 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 4:48:29pm

Why bother. Anyone who is a fan of Hoft will not respond to reason.

Hey, mid_aged_man, are you a fan of Hoft too?

493 klys  Aug 20, 2014 4:50:03pm

re: #492 wrenchwench

Why bother. Anyone who is a fan of Hoft will not respond to reason.

Hey, mid_aged_man, are you a fan of Hoft too?

The spelling is better than the average Hoft fan, but…

494 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 4:51:02pm

re: #493 klys

The spelling is better than the average Hoft fan, but…

I wonder what Em is disappointed about. Charles, I guess.

495 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 4:55:24pm

re: #491 Disappointedem

Gateway Pundit knuckle-dragger says what?

496 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 4:56:50pm

That’s how I know I’ve hit the sweet spot — when the idiots can’t stop themselves from registering to spew insults at me.

497 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 4:58:24pm

re: #491 Disappointedem

The info and link were not added until about 10 hours after that post went up, Jim edited the post to add them after people started calling him out about it.

Care to explain why he blacked out “UNIV OF IOWA” on the image if he wasn’t trying to mislead people?

Well?

498 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 5:30:59pm

Looks like another wingnut dump-and-run job.

499 mid_aged_man  Aug 20, 2014 7:10:16pm

re: #492 wrenchwench

I hadn’t heard of this injury until Saturday at the ER. If Wilson suffered from the same condition, I was pointing out that he might be talking on the phone and walking around. My son called me and was describing the accident 10 minutes after it occurred. Within about three hours, though, the left side of his face had swollen and he could barely see out of his eye.

I don’t know who the hell Hoft is. I shouldn’t have inserted myself and comments into this absolutely homogenous circle jerk.

500 klys  Aug 20, 2014 7:13:57pm

re: #499 mid_aged_man

I hadn’t heard of this injury until Saturday at the ER. If Wilson suffered from the same condition, I was pointing out that he might be talking on the phone and walking around. My son called me and was describing the accident 10 minutes after it occurred. Within about three hours, though, the left side of his face had swollen and he could barely see out of his eye.

I don’t know who the hell Hoft is. I shouldn’t have inserted myself and comments into this absolutely homogenous circle jerk.

If you read the article you replied to, you should have some idea of who Hoft is.

We’ve had a lot of trolls show up and post in dead threads recently (which is what this is - the active thread is typically the first post on the main page) and so her question was somewhat valid.

If you’d like to learn some more about the community before you call us a “homogenous circle jerk,” please feel free to join us upstairs.

501 klys  Aug 20, 2014 7:18:19pm

I’ll leave this comment link here as an example for how we hate to have discussions based in facts.

//// <— note for the hatchling, these are sarcasm tags.

502 CuriousLurker  Aug 20, 2014 7:19:22pm

re: #500 klys

Imagine my surprise at your civility being wasted. //

503 klys  Aug 20, 2014 7:20:03pm

re: #502 CuriousLurker

Imagine my surprise at your civility being wasted. //

Ah well. I tried. No one can say that we don’t respond civilly.

Well, ok, they can, but at least there’s some evidence otherwise.

504 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 7:24:40pm

Must be a Son of the South.

505 Shmurphy  Aug 20, 2014 10:09:32pm

For the record, if anyone wants to see what a broken orbital bone is like on someone three times the size of this uniformed thug, see the following video:

Youtube Video

This is Bob Sapp, who happens to be a towering monstrosity of an MMA fighter, getting punched in the face by Mirko CroCop. Take note of the expression on Sapp’s face.

Cops lie.

506 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 8:13:02am

re: #505 Shmurphy

Welcome, hatchling.

507 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 8:29:17am

re: #499 mid_aged_man

I hadn’t heard of this injury until Saturday at the ER. If Wilson suffered from the same condition, I was pointing out that he might be talking on the phone and walking around. My son called me and was describing the accident 10 minutes after it occurred. Within about three hours, though, the left side of his face had swollen and he could barely see out of his eye.

I don’t know who the hell Hoft is. I shouldn’t have inserted myself and comments into this absolutely homogenous circle jerk.

What you DID insert yourself into was a conversation about Jim Hoft. His name is in the title of this article. There is a link to his blog in the article. His name is mentioned several times. Why? Because he made up a bogus story about an eye injury. You show up and defend the story. What are we supposed to think?

What you did NOT insert yourself into was a place so homogeneous that everyone is equipped to participate in a circle jerk, as I understand it.

You can talk about stuff here, but if you say something stupid, or if you are stupid, don’t be surprised if you get called out on it, and don’t expect us to be able to tell the difference. At first. Maybe after we get to know you, if that happens.

508 JAK77  Aug 21, 2014 11:28:49am

Hoft’s story pretty clearly says “file image.”
I never thought it was Wilson’s.

Mostly because of HIPPA - you can’t release someone’s medical files.

509 klys  Aug 21, 2014 11:45:31am

re: #508 JAK77

Hoft’s story pretty clearly says “file image.”
I never thought it was Wilson’s.

Mostly because of HIPPA - you can’t release someone’s medical files.

a) funny thing about pages on the Internet, they can be changed in response to feedback. The initial page didn’t say file image.

b) you may be smart enough to realize it, but pretty clearly, a lot of people haven’t been - see, oh, Ann Coulter’s latest piece (mentioned here) as an example.

And, welcome, feel free to join us upstairs.

510 jfpbookworm  Aug 21, 2014 1:56:54pm

There’s absolutely no reason to include that “file image” in the post, though. It’s not informative or relevant at all.

511 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 3:31:14pm

re: #510 jfpbookworm

There’s absolutely no reason to include that “file image” in the post, though. It’s not informative or relevant at all.

Howdy, hatchling.

Are you talking about Hoft’s post?

512 [deleted]  Aug 21, 2014 6:44:23pm
513 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:38:23pm

re: #508 JAK77

You have no idea what you’re talking about - you’re just parroting a stupid talking point someone fed to you.

If you want to sound like you actually know something, you should get the name of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act correct, for starters. It’s “HIPAA,” not “HIPPA.”

514 mid_aged_man  Aug 22, 2014 7:33:28am

re: #507 wrenchwench

You know what? You’re right. I was rude and a little pissed off when I dropped the “homogeneous circle jerk” term on the thread. Sorry about that. (I’ve been wanting to use it for awhile ;) Anyway, I had spent 5 hours at the Emergency Room Saturday night and had some insight on how the injury sets up. My son, who had been in an ATV that rolled, had called me right afterwards and we had driven him to the ER ourselves. He had a headache and some blurred vision in that eye, but he was functioning. Once he blew his nose, however, and the left side of his face inflated like a balloon, they did a CT and found the fracture.

I have no idea if Wilson had the same fracture (or any fracture). I was just trying to shed more light on what an orbital blowout was like.

So, sorry about the comment.

515 wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2014 9:18:37am

re: #514 mid_aged_man

You know what? You’re right. I was rude and a little pissed off when I dropped the “homogeneous circle jerk” term on the thread. Sorry about that. (I’ve been wanting to use it for awhile ;) Anyway, I had spent 5 hours at the Emergency Room Saturday night and had some insight on how the injury sets up. My son, who had been in an ATV that rolled, had called me right afterwards and we had driven him to the ER ourselves. He had a headache and some blurred vision in that eye, but he was functioning. Once he blew his nose, however, and the left side of his face inflated like a balloon, they did a CT and found the fracture.

I have no idea if Wilson had the same fracture (or any fracture). I was just trying to shed more light on what an orbital blowout was like.

So, sorry about the comment.

I can see how your very recent experience would put your focus more on the elements of the injury than other parts of the thread. Thanks for sharing.

Let’s start over.

Welcome, hatchling. (Some of the best lizards began with a bunch of downdings.)

516 [deleted]  Aug 25, 2014 10:52:29pm
517 [deleted]  Aug 25, 2014 10:54:04pm
518 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 11:06:01pm

re: #516 rick ruskin

re: #517 rick ruskin

We all looked at the page, we discussed (file image) and the meaning of it and also at what time it was added to Jim’s page ad nauseam. The reason the photos don’t show the (file image) here is simply because they are not part of the image file. (you know, right click, “save image”?)

No one lied to us, no one tried to mislead us, unlike Jim playing you for fools, Charles doesn’t do that to us.


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