Jim Hoft Calls #Ferguson Protesters “Roaches”

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This morning Jim Hoft dropped all pretense and let his inner racist run free, calling the black people protesting in Ferguson “roaches.”

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1 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:13:23am

Hope you saved a screen cap for posterity’s sake.

2 Jay in Oregon  Aug 20, 2014 8:14:14am

“I’m not racist, but…”

3 mikec6666  Aug 20, 2014 8:15:02am

Busted by Charles twice in less than a day…he should really take a day off.

4 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:15:18am

re: #2 Jay in Oregon

“I’m not racist, but…”

You’re the racist who is accurately quoting my comments (completely in context).

5 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:15:31am

NEW BOMBSHELL!!!!!!!

6 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 8:15:43am

re: #1 lawhawk

Hope you saved a screen cap for posterity’s sake.

I did.

7 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:16:42am

Hey remember when Rachel Maddow called Tea Partiers a racial slur. Yeah me neither. Stay class Jim.

8 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 8:17:17am

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

9 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:17:25am

re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord

NEW BOMBSHELL!!!!!!!

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Is he talking about Dr. Baden?

10 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:18:03am

re: #8 Kid A

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

It’s hard work getting scoops in your mother’s basement when it’s guacamole night.

11 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 8:18:10am

re: #2 Jay in Oregon

“I’m not racist, but…”

…some of my best friends are Blah”

12 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 8:18:34am

…some of my best friends are Roaches.

13 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:18:58am
14 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:19:33am

NO BRYAN, IT’S OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FOLEY FAMILY & NOT TO SPREAD ISIS DEATH PORN U DUMBSHIT

15 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 8:20:39am

re:
#14

Bryan Fischer just wants to stay on top of the Worst People in the World ranking.

16 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 8:21:20am

re:
#8

Haha indeed.

17 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 8:22:10am

Had to compare them to roaches. The Jew Suss turned rats into a cliche.

18 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:22:22am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

NO BRYAN, IT’S OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FOLEY FAMILY & NOT TO SPREAD ISIS DEATH PORN U DUMBSHIT

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As I said, he doesn’t know how to be a decent human being.

19 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:22:45am

Bryan is butthurt that YouTube & Twitter removed the beheading video, and it seems he has already watched it several times.

20 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 8:23:25am

re: #19 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan is butthurt that YouTube & Twitter removed the beheading video, and it seems he has already watched it several times.

In the dark, with the shades drawn.

//

21 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:23:34am

I keep on waiting for that moment when Bryan is revealed to be a time traveller from the Dark Ages who somehow ended up in idaho.

22 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:23:42am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

No, he’s talking about Shawn Parcells, who was trying to explain Baden’s results.

A Kansas City man is now front and center in the controversial shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. Shawn Parcells owns a company that provides autopsy services, and some in the forensic community are taking issue with his involvement in this or any other case.

Parcells owns National Forensic Autopsy and Recovery Services. He says lawyers for the family of Michael Brown contacted him because of his expertise in gunshot wounds.

“I am a forensic pathologist assistant and medical investigator,” Parcells told FOX 4’s Shannon O’Brien.

Hoft is picking up local/national news reports that looked into Parcells’ background and questioned his credentials.

Baden’s credentials are above reproach. He’s the one who did the second of three autopsies. The STL county coroner did the first, and a federal expert did the third.

23 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 8:23:49am

re:
#19

For Brian, that video is almost better than the gay male p0rn he watches.

/

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:24:39am

re: #20 Targetpractice

In the dark, with the shades drawn.

//

With his pants off.

25 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 8:25:07am

re:
#22

Baden’s credentials are above reproach. He’s the one who did the second of three autopsies. The STL county coroner did the first, and a federal expert did the third.

But because of this one other guy UR argument=unvalidated!!!11

26 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:25:10am

re: #8 Kid A

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

Much more common is his inventing derp out of whole cloth, like the orbital blowout fracture. Less common is taking other derp out of context, warping it beyond reality, and folding it into a neat package for the right wing to disseminate elsewhere.

27 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:25:33am

re: #22 lawhawk

No, he’s talking about Shawn Parcells, who was trying to explain Baden’s results.

Hoft is picking up local/national news reports that looked into Parcells’ background and questioned his credentials.

Baden’s credentials are above reproach. He’s the one who did the second of three autopsies. The STL county coroner did the first, and a federal expert did the third.

Gotcha, I was wondering why he would be questioning Baden’s credentials because I don’t think even he’s that stupid.

28 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 20, 2014 8:26:39am

re: #24 Pie-onist Overlord

With his pants off.

Brain bleach needed.

29 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 8:26:49am

re: #20 Targetpractice

In the dark, with the shades drawn.

//

The rumors about the Queen CD are not confirmed.

30 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 20, 2014 8:27:02am

re: #8 Kid A

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

Or pull random images off Google and make shit up.

31 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:27:22am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve seen that around. They’re censoring his death to hide the TROOF about Islam! No, you assholes. They’re refusing to show it out of respect for his friends and family, who don’t need the world to see his murder.

32 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 8:28:07am

Lizards are taking a dim view of Buster.

33 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:28:25am

re: #8 Kid A

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

Or pull random images off Google and make shit up.

So he’s Buzzfeed with fewer brain cells and even fewer ethics.

34 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 8:29:09am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Lizards are taking a dim view of Buster.

Poor Buster. Poor poor Buster. I has a sadz.

35 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 8:29:40am

re: #8 Kid A

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

Its all a part of the New Journalism™.

Greenwald can be proud. Not that he isn’t already a huge egotist. But hey…feed that big head.

37 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 8:30:47am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Lizards are taking a dim view of Buster.

He went first.

38 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 8:31:00am

re: #12 Franklin

…some of my best friends are Roaches.

I’ve consumed a few good roaches in my time.

*cough*

39 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 8:31:08am

If I see another ice bucket challenge I’m going to throw my Big Gulp full of white zin at a motherfucker.

40 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 8:32:39am

re: #39 Ryan King

If I see another ice bucket challenge I’m going to throw my Big Gulp full of white zin at a motherfucker.

I’ve managed to avoid every single one, plus I have no idea what it’s about.

So far so good.

41 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 8:32:46am

re: #8 Kid A

I love how all of Dim’s “stories” are BREAKING, like he’s actually a reporter on the ground when in reality all he does is link to other’s derp.

Dim hasn’t figured out how to create his own Drudge siren graphic, so he’s stuck with BREAKING!!!!

42 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:33:48am

re: #36 Lidane

WTFITS:

Every Natural Disaster Since 1991 Has Been God’s Punishment On America For Cursing Israel

I can’t even express how stupid that is not just on a scientific level but from a US-Israel relationship standpoint as well. But stay classy wingnuts.

43 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:34:03am

re: #39 Ryan King

re: #40 wrenchwench

It’s meant as a viral fundraiser for the ALS Foundation to find a cure for ALS.

I did the challenge last night. And donated.

44 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:34:13am

re: #40 wrenchwench

I’ve managed to avoid every single one, plus I have no idea what it’s about.

So far so good.

It’s actually for a good cause, since it raises money for ALS research. I’m getting tired of seeing it all over my FB feed, though. So many videos being shared and people I know doing it.

45 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 8:34:33am

re: #36 Lidane

WTFITS:

Every Natural Disaster Since 1991 Has Been God’s Punishment On America For Cursing Israel

Klingenschmitt is the chaplain busted out of the Navy for excessive derp. He’s trying to start a “God is a Dick” cult, apparently.

46 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 8:35:14am

re: #43 lawhawk

It’s meant as a viral fundraiser for the ALS Foundation to find a cure for ALS.

I did the challenge last night. And donated.

Were you dumper or dumpee?

47 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 8:36:02am

re: #43 lawhawk

It’s meant as a viral fundraiser for the ALS Foundation to find a cure for ALS.

I did the challenge last night. And donated.

Correct. And the viral part of it is key.

But the viral phenomenon known as the “Ice Bucket Challenge” has not only raised awareness but also money for the ALS Association. More than $15.5 million has been raised over the past month, compared to $1.6 million during the same time-span last year.

wfmz.com

48 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:36:17am

re: #36 Lidane

WTFITS:

Every Natural Disaster Since 1991 Has Been God’s Punishment On America For Cursing Israel

So, it’s Bush Senior’s fault? What happened in 1991? 1st Gulf War. UN SCR 687, and the Madrid Conference.

Yeah, that’s reason enough. //////// ID-10-T error.

49 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 8:37:20am

re: #36 Lidane

WTFITS:

Every Natural Disaster Since 1991 Has Been God’s Punishment On America For Cursing Israel

Uh…shouldn’t it had started in 1956 when Ike forced the Israelis, Brits, and French to withdraw from the Suez Peninsula?

50 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:37:31am

re: #46 wrenchwench

Were you dumper or dumpee?

Both. The Mrs. got me, and I then dumped water on myself and the Mrs.

51 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 8:37:48am

It is amazing the amount of contortions these bozos are going through to slime the entire Ferguson shooting incident.

Just think of what they could accomplish if they actually put that effort to good use.

Somehow though, I get the feeling doing good is not as rewarding for them. Sad sacks they are. Soulless Zombies…and a good portion of them call themselves Christians.

Oh wait, maybe they’ve distorted Christianity too.

52 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 8:38:05am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I can’t even express how stupid that is not just on a scientific level but from a US-Israel relationship standpoint as well. But stay classy wingnuts.

Yeah, this is the type of person I want having political power in Washington. I wonder how many TPGOPers agree with him?

53 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:38:06am

re: #49 Timothy Watson

Uh…shouldn’t it had started in 1956 when Ike forced the Israelis, Brits, and French to withdraw from the Suez Peninsula?

You’re implying that he actually has some knowledge of foreign policy.

54 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 8:38:55am

re: #44 Lidane

It’s actually for a good cause, since it raises money for ALS research. I’m getting tired of seeing it all over my FB feed, though. So many videos being shared and people I know doing it.

Has anyone actually raised money when doing this though? All I see everywhere is “I NOMINATE YOUUUUU!!!!” and then soon after, someone drops ice water on themselves.

*** Glad to see $ being raised… but what about cancer? AIDS? Etc. Sorry. I apologize for my snarkiness. :)

Why not just write a check instead of going through all the theatrics? It’s just a thought. And another thought. Jim Hoft is a juicebag.

55 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 8:39:17am

Well Gov. “The Butch” otter just suffered a set back.

9th Circuit rejects Otter’s bid for full hearing of gay marriage appeal

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday denied Gov. Otter’s request for an en banc hearing on the same-sex marriage ruling appeal. A three-judge panel will hear the case Sept. 8.

Edited for additional sarcasm

56 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:39:44am

re: #52 Skip Intro

Yeah, this is the type of person I want having political power in Washington. I wonder how many TPGOPers agree with him?

I am not sure but the fact that this is how many wingnuts view the US-Israel relationship. Not you know valuing Israel as a consistent ally but no talking about curses. Good god these people are stuck in the Dark Ages with how they view the world. Is it any wonder that Obama can’t get shit done when a large amount of his opponents actually believe demons and curses are behind a lot of global problems.

57 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 8:40:27am

re: #54 GlutenFreeJesus

Youtube Video

Yes, Charlie Sheen. $10k, and he challenged his former 2.5 men castmates and show runner.

58 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 8:40:27am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Gotcha, I was wondering why he would be questioning Baden’s credentials because I don’t think even he’s that stupid.

And yet, Baden seems to be fine working with Parcells. Go figure.

And with that…work beckons. Later.

Stay on ‘em Charles and Lizards.

59 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:40:28am

re: #55 Bubblehead II

Well Gov. “Butch” otter just suffered a set back.

9th Circuit rejects Otter’s bid for full hearing of gay marriage appeal

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday denied Gov. Otter’s request for an en banc hearing on the same-sex marriage ruling appeal. A three-judge panel will hear the case Sept. 8.

Butch Otter sounds like a Lesbian porn star. And that’s all I have to say about that.

60 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 8:41:07am

re: #50 lawhawk

Both. The Mrs. got me, and I then dumped water on myself and the Mrs.

Is it like tag, you’re it, and you have to donate? Or you pay for the privilege of being the dumper?

61 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:41:35am

The W Bush ALS challenge video is pretty good honestly.

62 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 8:41:52am

re: #57 lawhawk

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Yes, Charlie Sheen. $10k, and he challenged his former 2.5 men castmates and show runner.

Angus T. Jones can definitely afford it.

63 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 8:43:30am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Butch Otter sounds like a Lesbian porn star. And that’s all I have to say about that.

I was going to throw a “the” in front of the “Butch”, but figured why stoop to something so low. Might just have to reconsider.

64 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:43:40am

I still remember Pat Robertson saying that Ariel Sharon’s stroke was due to his policies. Really, is that what an actual friend and ally of Israel would say? Really Bibi, think about that next time you’re hosting John Hagee and kissing Glenn Beck’s ass.

65 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:43:40am

not sure who pwn3d whom

66 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:44:07am

re: #63 Bubblehead II

I was going to throw a “the” in front of the “Butch”, but figured why stoop to something so low. Might just have to reconsider.

I couldn’t resist.

67 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 8:46:18am

re: #65 Pie-onist Overlord

Larry Elder PWN3D

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That’s the same pic Larry Elder posted.

68 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 8:47:02am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I couldn’t resist.

Neither could I.

69 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 8:47:56am

RWNJs: ZOMG CPT. RON JOHNSON IZ A GANGBANGER!

Truth: He’s a Kappa.

70 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:48:01am

re: #67 Gus

That’s the same pic Larry Elder posted.

I just realized that, at first I thought it was Larry.

71 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:48:05am

re: #68 Bubblehead II

Neither could I.

I also felt like saying in the same spirit that someone named Butch Otter shouldn’t be objecting to gay marriage. Kind of similar to my reaction to Dick Armey calling Barney Frank-Barney Fag- “You’re the last person that should be joking about people’s names.”

72 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:48:53am

Bryan is Derping up a storm about WarOnWhites.

73 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 8:49:53am

Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson

There’s a lot of BS going around. I hope the FBI can sift through it all and get to the truth.

74 A Mom Anon  Aug 20, 2014 8:50:01am

re: #62 GlutenFreeJesus

I have no problem with it, as long as the money is actually going to research hospitals and families with giant medical bills.

What I don’t like is the “look at me!! look at this good thing I’m doing” crap that a lot of facebook friends are doing. 10 dollars if you do it, 100 dollars if you don’t. I’m now an asshole because I literally have no extra money right now, not if I want to pay my bills, put gas in the car, feed the family etc. And cries of “surely you have some extra money, you just don’t want to donate”. NO. I literally have no extra money right now, and we’re still looking to cut more stuff out of the budget so we don’t lose our house and destroy our credit.

None of these people donate to the causes that matter to me; autism research, ending veteran homelessness, literacy, a home for the animals of victims of domestic violence, etc. And I’ve asked. None of them know anyone with ALS either. It’s an attention thing. I just hope the money helps and goes where it’s needed, not to pay some charity CEO a bigger salary.

75 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:50:03am

re: #69 Lidane

RWNJs: ZOMG CPT. RON JOHNSON IZ A GANGBANGER!

Truth: He’s a Kappa.

Wingnuts are so fucking obtuse. Black people making hand signs. My golly they must be gang signs because you know that’s the only hand gestures that those black people can make. It’s like when FNC said that Michelle and President Obama had a “terrorist fist bump” because you know Al Queda, they celebrate with fist bumps. Unbelievable how pathetic the RWers are.

76 piratedan  Aug 20, 2014 8:50:14am

and thus we see the final death spiral of journalism ethics as people continue to post anything and everything that supports their personal narrative, damn the context and full speed ahead sans facts!

77 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:50:40am

re: #72 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan is Derping up a storm about WarOnWhites.

He needs to move into Richard G. Butler’s old house.

78 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 8:52:11am

re: #70 Pie-onist Overlord

I just realized that, at first I thought it was Larry.

Copy.

79 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:52:35am

I thought I blocked RS McCain but every once in a while he gets retweeted to the TCOTs. He seems to have a thing for girl on girl pr0n

80 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 8:53:07am

re: #73 Ryan King

Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson

There’s a lot of BS going around. I hope the FBI can sift through it all and get to the truth.

And I quote:

The accounts of what witnesses have told local and federal law enforcement authorities come from some of those witnesses themselves, law enforcement authorities and others in Ferguson.

Sorry, but law enforcement and “others in Ferguson” do not sound like they were actual witnesses.

81 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 8:53:17am

re: #73 Ryan King

Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson

There’s a lot of BS going around. I hope the FBI can sift through it all and get to the truth.

“Shooting accounts differ,” i.e. “We’re going to give Josie the benefit of the doubt in order to keep the controversy alive!”

82 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2014 8:53:34am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Lizards are taking a dim view of Buster.

The one on Mythbusters provides more insightful commentary.

83 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 8:53:51am

re: #74 A Mom Anon

I have no problem with it, as long as the money is actually going to research hospitals and families with giant medical bills.

What I don’t like is the “look at me!! look at this good thing I’m doing” crap that a lot of facebook friends are doing. 10 dollars if you do it, 100 dollars if you don’t. I’m now an asshole because I literally have no extra money right now, not if I want to pay my bills, put gas in the car, feed the family etc. And cries of “surely you have some extra money, you just don’t want to donate”. NO. I literally have no extra money right now, and we’re still looking to cut more stuff out of the budget so we don’t lose our house and destroy our credit.

None of these people donate to the causes that matter to me; autism research, ending veteran homelessness, literacy, a home for the animals of victims of domestic violence, etc. And I’ve asked. None of them know anyone with ALS either. It’s an attention thing. I just hope the money helps and goes where it’s needed, not to pay some charity CEO a bigger salary.

You pretty much said what I was unable to.

84 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 8:54:20am

re: #69 Lidane

RWNJs: ZOMG CPT. RON JOHNSON IZ A GANGBANGER!

Truth: He’s a Kappa.

I give up.*

*A continuing theme.

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 8:55:22am

HAIL SATAN

86 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 8:56:14am
According to his account to the Ferguson police, Officer Wilson said that Mr. Brown had lowered his arms and moved toward him, law enforcement officials said. Fearing that the teenager was going to attack him, the officer decided to use deadly force. Some witnesses have backed up that account. Others, however — including Mr. [Dorian] Johnson — have said that Mr. Brown did not move toward the officer before the final shots were fired.

Really? Where are these witnesses?

I find it hard to believe that Brown was running away from a gun being shot at him, would stop, then turn around and charge at the man firing a gun at him.

Not impossible, but really not plausible.

87 stpaulbear  Aug 20, 2014 8:56:14am

re: #43 lawhawk

It’s meant as a viral fundraiser for the ALS Foundation to find a cure for ALS.

As someone named Al, I’ve always found the movement to find a cure for ALS a bit disconcerting.

88 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 8:56:16am

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

HAIL SATAN

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He’s obviously a Crip. Look at that tie.

89 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 8:56:19am

re: #69 Lidane

RWNJs: ZOMG CPT. RON JOHNSON IZ A GANGBANGER!

Truth: He’s a Kappa.

RON JOHNSON IS A CAPO FOR THE GANGBANGERS, CONFIRMED VIA LGF!!

90 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 8:57:59am

Well, color me surprised.

The Post’s latest front page, rather than go for one of those angles, shows Foley with a knife to his throat and his mouth covered in the moments before he is beheaded.

huffingtonpost.com

The Murdoch media empire is pure evil, rotten to and through the core.

91 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 8:59:35am

92 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 9:00:56am

Excellent police work in Ferguson once again. Woman shot at a protest last week has yet to be interviewed by FPD.

Aaten-White told the Riverfront Times that while she’s heard that police came and confiscated the bullet that was lodged in her forehead from the shooting. But after that it’s been… radio silence from the Ferguson Police Department. “Radio silence” might even be generous; apparently they haven’t returned to interview her or otherwise investigate the incident.

The police do seem to have told the press, as the Riverfront Times notes, that they consider the shooting a “drive-by” and that they’re looking for “four or five” men. But, Aaten-White told Riverfront Times:

Aaten-White says she didn’t see a car or a weapon, and the only “four or five” young black men she observed were the ones who brought her to safety.

“Those words never came out of my mouth. I didn’t know what people were talking about. I never said it was a drive-by,” she says. “Those young men carried me and saved my life.”

Aaten-White has since been sent home. Her attorney apparently hasn’t been able to find out anything about the incident either. He told the paper there doesn’t even seem to be a file or a report on record with the Ferguson police department. And the Riverfront Times had no better luck at getting answers.

The FBI and DOJ are looking at FPD practices overall, as well as the specific acts in the Brown case.

Would it be surprising that they’re not exactly investigating this shooting as vigorously as they should?

Questions that journalists (including Gawker) should look at: what is the clearance rate on crimes in Ferguson, and whether there’s a disparity based on who was the victim of the crime. And does that differ from MO and national statistics.

93 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 9:01:09am

re: #86 Ryan King

Really? Where are these witnesses?

I find it hard to believe that Brown was running away from a gun being shot at him, would stop, then turn around and charge at the man firing a gun at him.

Not impossible, but really not plausible.

I see the FPD’s story, if the NYT is to be believed, is changing again. Now it’s not that Brown charged, it’s that he turned around and started moving back towards Wilson. And if Brown put his arms down, that would mean he had to have them up. So why, if he was looking to attack Wilson, did he have his arms up?

Quite honestly, it now sounds like they’re moving to argue that Wilson misinterpreted Brown’s surrender as aggression. Perhaps because those “witnesses” that supposedly back up Wilson’s version of events didn’t see him “charging.”

94 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 9:01:49am

A crazed black man hopped up on marijuana dies after charging cop.

Seems legit

No, not legit. Not legit at all.

95 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 9:03:21am

re: #93 Targetpractice

I see the FPD’s story, if the NYT is to be believed, is changing again. Now it’s not that Brown charged, it’s that he turned around and started moving back towards Wilson. And if Brown put his arms down, that would mean he had to have them up. So why, if he was looking to attack Wilson, did he have his arms up?

Quite honestly, it now sounds like they’re moving to argue that Wilson misinterpreted Brown’s surrender as aggression. Perhaps because those “witnesses” that supposedly back up Wilson’s version of events didn’t see him “charging.”

And it’s plausible that Brown was following the officer’s directions and Brown was still shot by Wilson.

96 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:04:24am

I think the only hope now is for DOJ to charge Wilson on a federal level. I think FPD ruined any chance of a fair investigation and trial the minute that they let Wilson skip town.

97 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 9:05:21am

re: #93 Targetpractice

Quite honestly, it now sounds like they’re moving to argue that Wilson misinterpreted Brown’s surrender as aggression. Perhaps because those “witnesses” that supposedly back up Wilson’s version of events didn’t see him “charging.”

They’re trying to parse to help justify the shoot. Now it’s all a mistake.

If we assume the gun discharged in the car once, and 9 shots were fired in sum, then that’s 8 ‘mistakes’ made, of which 6 appear to have hit Brown.

That’s a stretch, to put it mildly.

98 gwangung  Aug 20, 2014 9:06:15am

re: #93 Targetpractice

Quite honestly, it now sounds like they’re moving to argue that Wilson misinterpreted Brown’s surrender as aggression.

Oh, REALLY?

Might buy that.

He should STILL be charged and convicted of murder for being a dumb shit beyond total belief.

99 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 9:06:24am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

I think the only hope now is for DOJ to charge Wilson on a federal level. I think FPD ruined any chance of a fair investigation and trial the minute that they let Wilson skip town.

I’m glad that the FBI was relatively fast on the scene, I do have faith in those guys being able to separate out the BS.

100 urbanmeemaw  Aug 20, 2014 9:07:30am

re: #76 piratedan

I don’t know about you, but I’m starting to think media outlets are being paid to “discover” and disseminate these lies.

101 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 9:07:37am

re: #95 lawhawk

And it’s plausible that Brown was following the officer’s directions and Brown was still shot by Wilson.

I now find myself wondering if the truth is somewhere between Johnson and this. That Wilson tried to get out of his SUV and the door bounced back, smacking Wilson in the face. He overreacted in blind anger and lashed out at Brown, assuming he’d purposefully slammed the door back. The two struggled over Wilson’s gun and when it went off, Brown began hauling ass.

Wilson, finally getting out of his car and pissed off, took a couple shots at Brown. Either one grazing his arm or just one going by was enough to make him realize this cop would shoot him if he didn’t stop, so he turned around to surrender. And when he started to put his arms down, figuring that Wilson would want to cuff him, the dumbass cop instead interpreted that as Brown preparing to attack and started firing in “self-defense.”

102 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 9:07:39am

re: #97 Ryan King

They’re trying to parse to help justify the shoot. Now it’s all a mistake.

If we assume the gun discharged in the car once, and 9 shots were fired in sum, then that’s 8 ‘mistakes’ made, of which 6 appear to have hit Brown.

That’s a stretch, to put it mildly.

All while half blind by a busted eye socket!

103 allegro  Aug 20, 2014 9:09:19am

So I started my morning waking up late (didn’t go to bed ‘til 3:30am - I’m retired, I get to do that) and flipping on the bedroom TV to see what time it was. Only channel that keeps the time on the screen is Fox news. What’s on the screen? The beheading video. Oh fuck no, you assholes! I couldn’t hit the off button fast enough. I have not gone looking for that ghastly video, do not EVER want to see any part of it and I resent the ever-loving hell out of turning my TV on to have that in my face against my will.

WTF is wrong with those people? (rhetorical question) No respect for that poor man or his grieving, horrified family and friends. No respect for the people sitting in waiting rooms with that goulish porn on the TV and no way to escape it.

Grrrrr….

104 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 9:09:34am

re: #39 Ryan King

white zin

You. Monster.

105 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 9:09:41am

Mmm hmm.

106 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:10:10am

re: #99 b.d.

I’m glad that the FBI was relatively fast on the scene, I do have faith in those guys being able to separate out the BS.

Yeah I was glad the FBI and DOJ were on it quickly as well. Hopefully we get some kind of conviction here.

107 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 9:10:26am

re: #97 Ryan King

They’re trying to parse to help justify the shoot. Now it’s all a mistake.

If we assume the gun discharged in the car once, and 9 shots were fired in sum, then that’s 8 ‘mistakes’ made, of which 6 appear to have hit Brown.

That’s a stretch, to put it mildly.

Ayep, would not surprise me if we started hearing a “mistake” narrative.

108 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 9:11:44am

re:
#103

So I started my morning waking up late (didn’t go to bed ‘til 3:30am - I’m retired, I get to do that)

(shakes fist)

109 gwangung  Aug 20, 2014 9:11:48am

re: #107 Targetpractice

Ayep, would not surprise me if we started hearing a “mistake” narrative.

THEN GET THAT MFer OFF THE STREET!!!!!!

Preferably as a guest of the state for 15-20 years, at least….

110 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:12:28am

re: #103 allegro

So I started my morning waking up late (didn’t go to bed ‘til 3:30am - I’m retired, I get to do that) and flipping on the bedroom TV to see what time it was. Only channel that keeps the time on the screen is Fox news. What’s on the screen? The beheading video. Oh fuck no, you assholes! I couldn’t hit the off button fast enough. I have not gone looking for that ghastly video, do not EVER want to see any part of it and I resent the ever-loving hell out of turning my TV on to have that in my face against my will.

WTF is wrong with those people? (rhetorical question) No respect for that poor man or his grieving, horrified family and friends. No respect for the people sitting in waiting rooms with that goulish porn on the TV and no way to escape it.

Grrrrr….

Murdoch and his companies showed how little regard they have for victims when they hijacked their cell phones. Not surprised at all that Fox is leading the shit storm about this. They’re ghouls at that network.

111 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 9:13:34am

re: #102 GlutenFreeJesus

All while half blind by a busted eye socket!

That’s right. He couldn’t see out of one eye, was dazed and confused by the angry black thug all hopped up on the evil devil weed who was running away from him and decided to turn around and ‘charge’ him, and he had drain most of a clip.

BREAKING NEWS!

112 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 9:13:41am

re: #109 gwangung

THEN GET THAT MFer OFF THE STREET!!!!!!

Preferably as a guest of the state for 15-20 years, at least….

As has been noted in prior threads, the law has to meet a higher bar to convict a cop than some dumbass vigilante. Remember, under MO law, a cop is allowed to shoot a suspect if they believe they might be a danger to the community.

113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 20, 2014 9:14:25am

Looks like Brown paid for the cigars he supposedly “stole”

114 gwangung  Aug 20, 2014 9:16:14am

re: #112 Targetpractice

As has been noted in prior threads, the law has to meet a higher bar to convict a cop than some dumbass vigilante. Remember, under MO law, a cop is allowed to shoot a suspect if they believe they might be a danger to the community.

Realized.

But as a matter of simple competence, you do NOT want a person on the street who can’t understand a simple surrender. And the entire department will be in even deeper water if they try.

115 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 9:16:30am

Focused on the REAL Problems, Confederate Bigot edition:

Robert Stacy McCain: Conservatives Must Focus On Fighting Lesbians

The 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision and the 2013 Windsor v. United States decision, however, have legitimized homosexual equality, meaning that gay adulthood is now a socially acceptable and legally protected condition. From this “emerging awareness” (to quote Justice Anthony Kennedy’s decision in Lawrence) it is logical to assume that one purpose of education now is to prepare young people for their lives as gay adults. Post-Windsor, you will be condemned as a homophobic hater if you disapprove of gay advocacy in public schools, and all opposition to such advocacy must be swept away in the name of “social justice.”

116 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:16:39am

re: #113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Looks like Brown paid for the cigars he supposedly “stole”

The well’s already been poisoned unfortunately.

117 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 9:17:00am

re: #113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Looks like Brown paid for the cigars he supposedly “stole”

Johnson admits that Brown stole the Rillos. It appears (my opinion) that they both went to the store and purchased goods, but Brown snatched the Rillos at a point in time and the clerk confronted him.

So it’s a theft, or petty theft. Brown paid for something it appears, but not everything.

118 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 9:17:21am

re: #113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The interpretation of the video may be inconclusive, but the attorneys for the Ferguson Market and Liquor where this occurred stated that he did taken the items in question without paying.

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 9:17:29am

Glenn Greenwald is all butthurt that USG has firewalled his website.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT!!!!!

120 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 9:17:48am

re: #113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

These questions can be answered so easily. Did anyone ask the shopkeeper if Brown paid for the cigars?

There must be a thousand “reporters” in Ferguson. Maybe one of them could find the time to do that.

121 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 9:18:11am

re: #115 Lidane

Focused on the REAL Problems, Confederate Bigot edition:

Robert Stacy McCain: Conservatives Must Focus On Fighting Lesbians

It’s pretty obvious to me that RSMcC likes girl on girl pr0n

122 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 9:18:53am

re: #113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Looks like Brown paid for the cigars he supposedly “stole”

No - this is definitely not true. The store owners confirmed he did NOT pay, and his friend Dorian Johnson also admitted they did steal the cigars.

This false meme is not helpful.

123 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 9:18:59am

re:
#119

They should love this. This will give them news material for weeks. Do you know who blocks us?????!?!

124 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:19:06am

re: #115 Lidane

Focused on the REAL Problems, Confederate Bigot edition:

Robert Stacy McCain: Conservatives Must Focus On Fighting Lesbians

And this is why conservationism sucks in a nutshell. We’ve got problems of racism, poverty, discrimination, etc and Robert Stacy McCain is mad that gays and lesbians enjoy the same rights under the law as he and I, Really conservatives, you’re going nowhere in this century until you accept that gays and lesbians are deserving of the same rights you have. And we liberals will continue to call you bigots until you show otherwise.

125 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 9:20:05am

Fake plumber says what?

Joe the Plumber Has a #HotTake on Those ‘Cockroaches’ in Ferguson

126 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 9:20:07am

re:
#115

Why does RS McCain hate Freedom?

127 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 9:20:09am

Whoops. Wrong. Looks like he stole the cigars.

(See, rightists? This is what a correction looks like.)

128 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:20:25am

Shit US government blocks a lot of sites. But that won’t stop GG’s martyrplex.

129 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:20:52am

re: #125 Lidane

Fake plumber says what?

Joe the Plumber Has a #HotTake on Those ‘Cockroaches’ in Ferguson

Dude your fifteen minutes of fame was over six years ago. No one gives a shit about you anymore Not Joe the Not Plumber.

130 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 9:21:06am

re: #123 Bulworth

re:
#119

They should love this. This will give them news material for weeks. Do you know who blocks us?????!?!

FIRST THEY GET MAD WHEN YOU STEAL THEIR SH*T, THEN THEY GET MAD WHEN YOU PUBLISH THEIR SECRET DOCUMENTS AND NOW THIS!?!?!? OUTRAGE!!

131 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 9:21:19am

re: #127 Schadenboner

I eagerly await the retractions from the RWNJs (since, being Serious And Real Journalists after all, they’re ethically obligated to do so).

This claim is not true. He did steal the cigars.

132 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:22:02am

re: #127 Schadenboner

I eagerly await the retractions from the RWNJs (since, being Serious And Real Journalists after all, they’re ethically obligated to do so).

It appears they did in fact steal them but OTOH shoplifting cigars doesn’t justify what happened to the kid. I think we all know someone or maybe even ourselves who shoplifted at one point. My own brother shoplifted stuff much more valuable than the cigars.

133 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 9:24:13am

It’s not in dispute. Dorian Johnson admitted they stole the cigars. End of story.

134 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:25:58am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

It’s not in dispute. Dorian Johnson admitted they stole the cigars. End of story.

Understood, thanks for the correction.

135 Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2014 9:27:59am

re: #115 Lidane

Focused on the REAL Problems, Confederate Bigot edition:

Robert Stacy McCain: Conservatives Must Focus On Fighting Lesbians

The Civil War was fought to keep gays in the closet?

136 Ryan King  Aug 20, 2014 9:28:05am

Brown stole the cigars.

His friend admitted it.

Store owner said he stole them.

Watche the whole video:
Brown (appears to) pay for stuff
Brown takes rillos and gives to friend
clerk confronts Brown

Brown stole the cigars.

137 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:31:47am

I mean though even the Ferguson PD admits that the incident at the store had no bearings on what happened. If you’re going to use the shoplifting of cigars to justify Wilson’s actions. I don’t even know what to say. That’s not made out to anyone here btw but to people like hoft who want to rationalize Mike Brown’s death anyway possible.

139 Egregious Philbin  Aug 20, 2014 9:37:48am

Roaches? What does that make the Bundy crowd? Maggots?

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 9:38:04am

Um no

141 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 9:39:17am

Heh, I post that NYT story at another board with Wilson’s change in story highlighted, and automatically I get the “I’m skeptical” business. That’s right, they’re ready to swallow up “Josie“‘s story of Brown “bull rushing” him or the bit as “more than a dozen witnesses.” But the NYT reports his story with verification from sources within the FPD, and they want to “wait for the facts.”

142 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 9:40:36am

re: #138 Lidane

Posted without comment:

Missouri official apologizes for racist Facebook posts: ‘I was a very active Republican at the time’

Yep, that pretty well explains it.

144 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:41:06am

re: #138 Lidane

Posted without comment:

Missouri official apologizes for racist Facebook posts: ‘I was a very active Republican at the time’

“Republicans believe everyone should be judged on their qualifications, on their ability.”
Is that why their party opposes equal pay for women and is okay with people being fired because of their sexuality. I actually agree with the party honchos who don’t like him using their party to justify it but albeit for different reasons, your own actions more so than your party are what caused him to tweet this. That said, the crying from the Republican honchos is rich since I believe it was a Republican party member that originally made that Obama witch doctor meme and spread it around.

145 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:42:44am

re: #140 Pie-onist Overlord

Um no

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It makes Carson a hypocrite but we knew that already. Carson is just another Alan Keyes, Herman Cain for wingnuts to point out and “See, I support him and that proves I am not a racist” even though they still accuse liberals of being the real racist ones for supporting the African-American Obama. And then there’s that Carson has his own bigotries.

146 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 9:43:30am

Speculative question: Was Ferguson relatively calm last night because some of the locals got together and strongly encouraged the agitators to get out of town?

147 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 9:44:32am

If you need a resource to determine who’s who in the American wingnutosphere, one of the best places to start is the Encyclopedia of American Loons. It’s updated frequently, and has a quite extensive list.

americanloons.blogspot.com

148 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 9:44:52am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

It was mostly calm, up until someone who apparently was a reporter claimed that their phone was stolen, and it turned into a chase with journalists, protesters, and police getting involved (with each other, and with the police arresting others along the way, though the person who allegedly stole the phone was not apprehended).

149 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 9:45:19am
150 dog philosopher  Aug 20, 2014 9:48:12am

But what do you think the reaction in Ferguson would have been if the kid who got shot had been black and so was the cop? Or if the kid was white and the cop was black — or white? Do you think there would have been demonstrations and riots and an onslaught of national media?

oh, sure, if a white teenager w her hands up was shot to death by a police officer, everybody would just be having sympathy for what a tough job cops have

obviously!

151 EPR-radar  Aug 20, 2014 9:48:17am

re: #92 lawhawk

It isn’t surprising that FPD appears to be incapable of dealing effectively with real crime. Its main function appears to be extorting from the poor via traffic and court fines.

dailykos.com

A few salient points from the white paper linked at the DKos article:

Ferguson is a city located in northern St. Louis County with 21,203 residents living in 8,192 households. The majority (67%) of residents are African-American, while the remainder (29%) are largely white. Ferguson’s unemployment rate is 14.3%, more than double that of both St. Louis County (6.1%) and Missouri (6.6%), and a full 10% of the city’s 9,105 housing units are vacant. 22% of residents live below the poverty level, including 35.3% of children under 18, and 21.7% received food stamps in the last year. Despite Ferguson’s relative poverty, fines and court fees comprise the second largest source of revenue for the city, a total of $2,635,400.72. In 2013, the Ferguson Municipal Court disposed of 24,532 warrants and 12,018 cases, or about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household.

152 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:49:15am

re: #149 Schadenboner

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That unfortunately is true. When Holmes did what he did, we got a lot of focus on him being a medical student. Brown gets killed and the media drags out some photos that are easy to sell to the gullible as “thug photos” and ignore the fact that the kid was a high school graduate with high aspirations. Our media makes me sick.

153 Jayleia  Aug 20, 2014 9:50:38am

Ah, Buster another VERY short but very unmemorable time here…

154 CarolJ  Aug 20, 2014 9:52:39am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

I would think that’s the case. Sensible people don’t want a violent confrontation with troops armed like they just came back from Fallujah. The locals (with the help of Panthers and NOI) were handling their own hotheads pretty well. It was the white dudebros (RCP and possibly anarchists) who were trying to start violent stuff-not to mention opportunists taking advantage of a sad situation.

Makes you wonder about those other riots, doesn’t it? Perhaps some local people did violently lash out, but folks who aren’t from the neighborhood or town wouldn’t worry about the repercussions so much. It’s not like they would be seen days later with the stolen goods, or ever be forced to make a court appearance from another town.

155 EPR-radar  Aug 20, 2014 9:53:01am

re: #115 Lidane

Because fostering suicide among LGBTQ kids by letting anti-gay bullying go unchecked in schools is ever so much better.

Bigots that support such bullying can fuck off and die, preferably of singularly painful and loathsome conditions.

156 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 9:53:41am
157 CarolJ  Aug 20, 2014 9:54:51am

re: #156 lawhawk

He’s hoping it’s cold outside before issuing any decision on an indictment.

158 gwangung  Aug 20, 2014 9:55:36am

re: #154 CarolJ

I would think that’s the case. Sensible people don’t want a violent confrontation with troops armed like they just came back from Fallujah. The locals (with the help of Panthers and NOI) were handling their own hotheads pretty well. It was the white dudebros (RCP and possibly anarchists) who were trying to start violent stuff-not to mention opportunists taking advantage of a sad situation.

Makes you wonder about those other riots, doesn’t it? Not saying some local people did lash out violently, but folks who aren’t from the neighborhood or town wouldn’t worry about the repercussions so much. It’s not like they would be seen days later with the stolen goods, or ever be forced to make a court appearance from another town.

A competent police force would know about this and take this into account, doncha think?

159 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 9:56:27am

re: #155 EPR-radar

Because fostering suicide among LGBTQ kids by letting anti-gay bullying go unchecked in schools is ever so much better.

Bigots that support such bullying can fuck off and die, preferably of singularly painful and loathsome conditions.

I really didn’t realize how vile conservatism was until I saw many conservative pundits and politicians justifying bullying LGBTQ kids in school. As someone on the Autistic spectrum, I faced my share of troubles in school. It wasn’t awful mind you but it did give me a lot of sympathy for what hell many LGBTQ kids go through and it’s why I hope that by time I’m an old man that the religious right will be a relic of the past.

160 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 20, 2014 9:57:12am

Seems to me that Jay Nixon is about a useful as a urinal in a convent.

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 9:58:30am
162 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 9:58:31am

re: #156 lawhawk

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In other words, slow-walking this in the hopes that by the time he comes back without an indictment, nobody will give a shit because they’ll have moved on.

163 EPR-radar  Aug 20, 2014 9:58:46am

re: #160 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Seems to me that Jay Nixon is about a useful as a urinal in a convent.

The only use I can see for Nixon at this point is as a hand puppet for more competent people (e.g., Obama and/or Holder).

164 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 9:58:47am
165 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 9:59:40am

Gov. Nixon can’t get too involved in the grand jury investigation.

166 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:00:43am
167 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:01:37am

re: #166 Pie-onist Overlord

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Oh, that should send wingnuts into a tizzy.

168 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:01:48am

The dronings are already underway.

Glenn Greenwald’s head to explode shortly.

169 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 10:02:36am

IF YOU HAVEN’T YET, please give updings where updings are due.

I think my faith in Humanity might have been restored.

170 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:03:21am

re: #162 Targetpractice

A competent grand jury investigation takes time. Whether they need until October or not is debatable. The question is whether McCullough can be impartial and that evidence gathered can support an indictment. I wonder if he can be impartial given his background, his history, and track record.

The evidence that is publicly known thus far would seem to be sufficient for an indictment on manslaughter, if not 2d degree murder. The question, as it does in most officer-involved shootings, is whether the officer feared for his life or the lives of others when he opened fire - giving him the legitimate right to use deadly force. The prosecutor is likely to lean towards giving Wilson that benefit, which would then ignore the excessive force used thereafter.

171 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:03:42am

Dim Jim Doubles Down On Teh Dumb Derp

172 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 10:03:58am

re: #161 Pie-onist Overlord

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EHMERGERD, WHERE’S THE TIE?!?

173 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 10:04:13am
174 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 10:05:07am

re: #5 Pie-onist Overlord

NEW BOMBSHELL!!!!!!!

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So it seems to me that Dim is trying to make it sound like this guy actually did an autopsy of Brown, when he was actually an assistant of Baden’s and was explaining some of the results, am I correct?

175 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:06:46am

re: #174 Kid A

So it seems to me that Dim is trying to make it sound like this guy actually did an autopsy of Brown, when he was actually an assistant of Baden’s and was explaining some of the results, am I correct?

From what I saw, that does sound right. Leave it to DimJim to distort and outright lie tho.

176 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 10:07:09am

re:
#171

And again, what happened to Mike Brown exactly? What sort of injuries did he sustain? Do Hoft or his readers care about that? Do Hoft or his readers care about what seems to be a troubling pattern of policy targeting of minorities in Ferguson and in other cities?

177 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:07:37am

re: #174 Kid A

So it seems to me that Dim is trying to make it sound like this guy actually did an autopsy of Brown, when he was actually an assistant of Baden’s and was explaining some of the results, am I correct?

Autopsy assistant=Diener
Medical degree not required.

178 CarolJ  Aug 20, 2014 10:07:44am

re: #158 gwangung

A competent police department would, but it would still have a hard time getting outoftowners who have made bail to come back. In a place like Ferguson, I suspect that the cost would be prohibitive for anything less than a major felony. And this is without taking into account court resources and the length of a small town court docket. That could be another reason why the reporters were arrested but not actually booked for anything. If they were actually placed on the books, then the reporters would have a reason to come back with better paid and trained lawyers than the local constabulary are used to.

Better to hope those folks simply never come back.

180 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 10:09:20am

re:
#166

War-monger! Worser than Bush!

He wants to incite a race war! He wants to stay in office illegally coup!!!11

181 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:09:25am

re: #172 Schadenboner

<spanclass=wingnut>EHMERGERD, WHERE’S THE TIE?!?</spanclass>

EHRMAGRRD HE LOOKS LIKE HE JUST CAME OFF TEH GOLF COURSE!!!!!!

182 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:10:07am

re: #176 Bulworth

re:
#171

And again, what happened to Mike Brown exactly? What sort of injuries did he sustain? Do Hoft or his readers care about that? Do Hoft or his readers care about what seems to be a troubling pattern of policy targeting of minorities in Ferguson and in other cities?

They just don’t care. And it’s part of what defines their ideology and worldview. There’s no empathy for a guy like Brown because surely he had it coming.//

183 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:10:07am
184 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 10:10:49am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

From what I saw, that does sound right. Leave it to DimJim to distort and outright lie tho.

Which he already did by the tone of the story. I swear he is so far beyond redemption, hell won’t accept him. He is beyond evil.

185 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:10:56am

re: #171 Pie-onist Overlord

Recycling the same week old news reporting recaps to claim proof that he had a blowout fracture?

Police claimed he had some kind of facial injury (per a presser held last week). No word on the kind of injury, the extent of the injury, or how it happened.

Because the FPD have withheld all information relating to the actual chain of events at the site of the fatal encounter. They instead have offered up video of an incident at a local market that they claimed they released only because of the FOIA requests but which the FPD said didn’t relate to the stop and that Wilson didn’t know of the robbery attempt. It took days before they offered up Wilson’s name at all.

They’re hiding behind MRS 610.100 to claim that the report is privileged and can’t be released, even though there’s good legal arguments to make that the document of the actual incident is not the actual investigation.

Hoft is playing his part well - obfuscating, smearing, and doing all he can to blame Brown for being shot and killed by Wilson. Blame the victim, excuse the shooter. That’s what Hoft is up to.

186 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:12:13am

re: #184 Kid A

Which he already did by the tone of the story. I swear he is so far beyond redemption, hell won’t accept him. He is beyond evil.

Yep. Guy knows what his readers want to hear and he just shit peddles anyhow despite knowing otherwise.

187 Mike Lamb  Aug 20, 2014 10:12:16am

re: #171 Pie-onist Overlord

Dim Jim Doubles Down On Teh Dumb Derp

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Funny how we don’t have a single name attached to any of the purported witnesses whose statements allegedly corroborate Wilson’s apparent version of events.

188 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:13:04am

re: #187 Mike Lamb

Funny how we don’t have a single name attached to any of the purported witnesses whose statements allegedly corroborate Wilson’s apparent version of events.

Which version are we talking about? There’s been so many offered that it’s hard to say who’s right about what.

189 Mike Lamb  Aug 20, 2014 10:15:41am

re: #188 Targetpractice

Which version are we talking about? There’s been so many offered that it’s hard to say who’s right about what.

Well, it appears to be some variant of Brown being the aggressor…I think…maybe…talk to me in an hour.

190 Ace-o-aces  Aug 20, 2014 10:15:54am

re: #174 Kid A

So it seems to me that Dim is trying to make it sound like this guy actually did an autopsy of Brown, when he was actually an assistant of Baden’s and was explaining some of the results, am I correct?

You are correct sir! Notice Dim never mentions the actual Doctor who performed the autopsy.

191 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:16:01am

re: #187 Mike Lamb

Funny how we don’t have a single name attached to any of the purported witnesses whose statements allegedly corroborate Wilson’s apparent version of events.

Yeah that’s one of those how convenient moments. But I guess it’s just a big conspiracy to get poor widdle Officer Wilson.

192 Danny  Aug 20, 2014 10:16:14am

re: #185 lawhawk

Because the FPD have withheld all information relating to the actual chain of events at the site of the fatal encounter. They instead have offered up video of an incident at a local market that they claimed they released only because of the FOIA requests but which the FPD said didn’t relate to the stop and that Wilson didn’t know of the robbery attempt. It took days before they offered up Wilson’s name at all.

They’re hiding behind MRS 610.100 to claim that the report is privileged and can’t be released, even though there’s good legal arguments to make that the document of the actual incident is not the actual investigation.

I read an interesting article at the Columbia Journalism Review site. It’s a bit dated (written before Wilson was named) but gives insight into legalities surrounding why the FPD and StLC investigators withheld (are withholding) info.

193 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 10:16:28am
194 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:16:31am

BOOTSTRAPS U LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!

195 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2014 10:17:12am

So now the right (and some far lefties) are starting to bitch about a return to Iraq.

I think I will call these people by a new nickname.
Mission Creeps.

If ISIS(L) is not hammered back we will all regret it.

196 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:18:46am

The bombing will commence and there will be piles of dead women & children but ISIS will magically disappear like a genie.

197 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 10:18:54am

re:
#194

“And now I’m home receiving my monthly Social Security and have Medicare pay for my doctor visits. Suck on that!!!!”

198 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 10:19:12am

re: #173 Franklin

I can’t see it at work. Did she melt?

199 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 10:19:57am

re: #193 Franklin

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The cops are raiding churches?

200 EPR-radar  Aug 20, 2014 10:20:19am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I really didn’t realize how vile conservatism was until I saw many conservative pundits and politicians justifying bullying LGBTQ kids in school. As someone on the Autistic spectrum, I faced my share of troubles in school. It wasn’t awful mind you but it did give me a lot of sympathy for what hell many LGBTQ kids go through and it’s why I hope that by time I’m an old man that the religious right will be a relic of the past.

Hard right nut jobs want women to be subservient, blacks to be enslaved and gays to be dead. What’s not to like? //

201 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 10:20:23am

re: #193 Franklin

Is there any reason WHY they would raid a safe haven that doesn’t involve the cops being gigantic assholes?

202 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 10:21:28am

Teens create new app to hold police accountable

The kids are alright

203 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 10:21:34am

Preach it Shaun!

204 Franklin  Aug 20, 2014 10:22:01am

re: #198 Lidane

I can’t see it at work. Did she melt?

Bingo :)

It was an image of the Wicked Witch post-melting.

205 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:22:13am

re: #193 Franklin

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206 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:22:39am

Early afternoon funny:

207 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:22:42am

re: #194 Pie-onist Overlord

BOOTSTRAPS U LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!

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Work 24/7 like she did? Yeah somehow I doubt that. And also moving costs money. Quitting a job you may not like has its drawbacks too and dumbfucks like Kathy oppose unemployment benefits also. They also oppose more investment in education so prospective employees can better qualify themselves. So conservatives can STFU when lecturing other people about jobs.

208 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:23:15am

re: #203 ausador

Preach it Shaun!

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Clerical fascists.

209 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 10:23:34am

Adventures in the Free Market:

Microsoft Ditches ALEC In Latest Blow To Conservative Group

Microsoft joins Coca-Cola, General Motors, Bank of America, and Proctor & Gamble as some of the major corporations that have severed their relationship with ALEC, according to CNET. Others — like Google, Facebook, eBay, Yahoo, and Yelp — remain involved with the group.

CNET linked Microsoft’s decision with ALEC’s bid to stop renewable energy projects. As The Guardian reported last year, Microsoft has begun investing in renewable energy, including an announcement that it would run one of its data centers entirely with electricity produced by a wind farm in Texas.

210 klys  Aug 20, 2014 10:23:53am

re: #205 wrenchwench

Public relations: how to fail some more!

Part I-don’t-even-fucking-know-anymore.

211 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:24:43am
212 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 10:24:49am

FNB Caption Contest:

213 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 10:25:28am

re:
#201

They’re looking for that water bottle I guess. //

214 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:25:39am

Local pastors are calling on Malik Shabazz, formerly of the NBP to get out of town, and that he’s doing more to stir up trouble than help.

Pastors are pointing the finger at Malik Shabazz, the former leader of the New Black Panther Party, and many church leaders want him to leave Ferguson.

“I am upset with a certain group of them that are rebel rousers. We know them by name. Last night was the scariest night of my life,” said Pastor Mike Robinson.

Robinson said there is growing concern over Shabazz and what he is doing in Ferguson.

“We want Officer Darren Wilson arrested, we’re here for Mike Brown,” Shabazz said. “We’re here for Mike Brown and we’re not going to let outside infiltrators come and destroy our good movement.”

Robinson said Shabazz is an attorney from Washington D.C. who is causing problems.

“I literally watched him cause chaos within a large group of people and prepare to send them to the front line, then he shifts and says ‘let’s keep the peace.’ We’re calling him out. We want him out of our city, we don’t need his help at all, and he’s doing nothing but cause chaos.”

According to the Anti-Defamation League, Shabazz is trying to recast himself as a serious civil rights leader that inserts himself in high profile, racially charged situations. The Southern Poverty Law Center says Shabazz is skilled at organizing provocative protests.

215 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:25:56am

re: #210 klys

Public relations: how to fail some more!

Part I-don’t-even-fucking-know-anymore.

Or misinformation.

What’s on the opposite side of town from St. Marks?

216 TedStriker  Aug 20, 2014 10:26:14am

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

FNB Caption Contest:

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Heh, canine porn.

217 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 10:27:06am

So have the RWNJs started calling these words by POTUS a smoke screen yet?

ISIS “speaks for no religion… No faith teaches people to massacre innocents,” Obama said. “No just god would stand for what they do every day. (ISIS) has no ideology of value to human beings. Their ideology is bankrupt.

“They may claim out of expediency they are at war with the United States or the West. The fact is they terrorize their neighbors and offer them nothing but endless slavery to their empty vision. The collapse of any definition of civilized behavior,” he continued. ” People like this ultimately fail. They fail because futures are won by those who build, not destroy, shaped by people like Jim Foley and overwhelming majority of humanity are appalled by those who killed him.”

218 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:27:55am
219 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:28:09am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Work 24/7 like she did? Yeah somehow I doubt that. And also moving costs money. Quitting a job you may not like has its drawbacks too and dumbfucks like Kathy oppose unemployment benefits also. They also oppose more investment in education so prospective employees can better qualify themselves. So conservatives can STFU when lecturing other people about jobs.

LEARN SUM SKILLZ 2 GET A BETTER JRRB BUT PAY FOR UR OWN STUDENT LOANS FROM UR MINIMUMWAGE JRRB U WORTHLESS MOOCHER!!!!!!

220 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:28:29am

re: #217 Lidane

So have the RWNJs started calling these words by POTUS a smoke screen yet?

My bet? They’re going to be upset that he said ISIS speaks no religion and claim that he’s saying that to cover for MUSLIMS. Because you know ISIS has never gone after Muslims.

221 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:30:19am

re: #219 Pie-onist Overlord

LEARN SUM SKILLZ 2 GET A BETTER JRRB BUT PAY FOR UR OWN STUDENT LOANS FROM UR MINIMUMWAGE JRRB U WORTHLESS MOOCHER!!!!!!

Would that be the same minimum wage job they want to get rid of? Really conservatives need to stop lecturing about bootstraps when they don’t even want to provide the boots or the straps. But if you ask them how they made it, they made it all by themselves and then you see that they had help from either the Feds, a wealthy benefactor, a mentor, etc. The fact that Paul Ryan is the face of the “bootstrap” element of conservatism should show anyone with a brain what a sham ti is.

222 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 10:31:39am

GOPBlackChick wants to know why Michael Brown was living with his grandmother.

Obviously if it can be proved that Brown was living with his grandmother rather than with his mom or dad it will mean that….something.

These are very serious people.

223 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:31:57am

re: #193 Franklin

I’m calling BS on that.

Here’s a map of Ferguson. No church by that name is within Ferguson. There are seven with St. Mark’s in the name, and the closest two are in Florissant or St. Louis proper.

224 dog philosopher  Aug 20, 2014 10:32:13am

But what do you think the reaction in Ferguson would have been if the kid who got shot had been black and so was the cop? Or if the kid was white and the cop was black — or white? Do you think there would have been demonstrations and riots and an onslaught of national media?

what do i think would happen if a black cop shot to death a white teenager with his hands up??

really??

i think there would be violence against black people all over the country, and possibly some lynchings, that’s what i think

225 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 10:32:44am
226 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:32:55am

Oh look Janie “Never Worked A Day In My Life But Poors Are Lazy” Johnson is telling Jews how to vote==>

227 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:34:02am

re: #222 Bulworth

GOPBlackChick wants to know why Michael Brown was living with his grandmother.

Obviously if it can be proved that Brown was living with his grandmother rather than with his mom or dad it will mean that….something.

These are very serious people.

Shrug. My cousin lived with her grandmother. But I know what this is, it’s your usual right wing shit on the African American family thing. I don’t even think that Brown was living with his grandmother but merely that’s where he was headed when Wilson shot him. It proves nothing about Brown or his family though. Fucking right wing pricks.

228 KerFuFFler  Aug 20, 2014 10:34:25am

re: #113 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Looks like Brown paid for the cigars he supposedly “stole”

Nope, Dorian Johnson admitted to his lawyer and the FBI that they had taken the “rellos”. That grainy footage reveals nothing. This was settled days ago…I thought.

It was still awful that the FPD released that other damning clip, but this one really proves nothing.

229 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 10:35:02am

Unreal. Hoft is lying again.

More➙ FORENSIC ANALYSIS & #FERGUSON WITNESSES Say Officer Darren Wilson Sustained Injury During Mike Brown Attack | the Gateway Pundit

He’s playing this up as if it’s new information, but it’s just a repeat of the police claim they’ve made since the beginning.

But more importantly, here’s the New York Times article he’s linking to: Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson.

Hoft writes this:

Officer Wilson left the state after his hospital visit.

But the Times article makes no mention whatsoever of a “hospital visit.” Hoft simply made this up.

230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 10:35:04am

re: #217 Lidane

So have the RWNJs started calling these words by POTUS a smoke screen yet?

rejecting his own faith…how sinister!

/

231 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:35:33am

Welp, I didn’t block that psycho @SpreadButter because she was always good for some Derp but now she’s spamming ISIS death porn.

Blocked & muted.

232 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:35:37am

re: #224 dog philosopher

But what do you think the reaction in Ferguson would have been if the kid who got shot had been black and so was the cop? Or if the kid was white and the cop was black — or white? Do you think there would have been demonstrations and riots and an onslaught of national media?

what do i think would happen if a black cop shot to death a white teenager with his hands up??

really??

i think there would be violence against black people all over the country, and possibly some lynchings, that’s what i think

What would happen if the races were reversed and Brown was white and Wilson was black? The people who have come to Wilson’s defense would flip and would be demanding that Wilson be strung up for murdering a good white kid for no reason. They’d be pushing for lawsuits against the PD for releasing information unrelated to the investigation (the market video), and they’d demand that the focus be kept on the officer’s actions and not on the victim.

The black community? They’d be like - this happens to us every day - where cops kill black kids for no reason, so why start with media attention now, when a white kid is killed in an excessive force instance.

233 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:36:01am

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Unreal. Hoft is lying again.

More➙ FORENSIC ANALYSIS & #FERGUSON WITNESSES Say Officer Darren Wilson Sustained Injury During Mike Brown Attack | the Gateway Pundit

He’s playing this up as if it’s new information, but it’s just a repeat of the police claim they’ve made since the beginning.

But more importantly, here’s the New York Times article he’s linking to: Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson.

Hoft writes this:

But the Times article makes no mention whatsoever of a “hospital visit.” Hoft simply made this up.

I would think that someone with a serious injury as Hoft claims wouldn’t have left the state. So there you go, Jim, you totally contradicted even yourself this time. Lying sack of crap.

234 calochortus  Aug 20, 2014 10:36:01am

re: #226 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh look Janie “Never Worked A Day In My Life But Poors Are Lazy” Johnson is telling Jews how to vote==>

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I’ll bet I know the answer! Most Jewish folks will vote just like they did last time around. Nice try, Janie.

235 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:36:22am

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Unreal. Hoft is lying again.

More➙ FORENSIC ANALYSIS & #FERGUSON WITNESSES Say Officer Darren Wilson Sustained Injury During Mike Brown Attack | the Gateway Pundit

He’s playing this up as if it’s new information, but it’s just a repeat of the police claim they’ve made since the beginning.

But more importantly, here’s the New York Times article he’s linking to: Shooting Accounts Differ as Holder Schedules Visit to Ferguson.

Hoft writes this:

But the Times article makes no mention whatsoever of a “hospital visit.” Hoft simply made this up.

Jim Hoft fabricating a story? The hell you say!

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236 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:37:56am

re: #234 calochortus

I’ll bet I know the answer! Most Jewish folks will vote just like they did last time around. Nice try, Janie.

I was going to say that it’s the same answer that Bryan Fischer and otehrs got when Obama declared in favor of gay marriage. I’m not Jewish but I’m tired of wingnuts like Janie patronizing Jewish voters and acting like they’re too stupid to know what’s good for them and that’s Janie’s brand of “conservatism.” It’s as pathetic as the outright Anti-Semitism one can hear on the Nixon tapes.

237 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 10:37:57am

re:
#229

But the Times article makes no mention whatsoever of a “hospital visit.” Hoft simply made this up.

Mah many anonymous witnesses confirmed FACT this TRUTH!!!!!111

238 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 10:37:58am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I would think that someone with a serious injury as Hoft claims wouldn’t have left the state.

If he was as injured as Hoft claims he is, he wouldn’t have left St. Louis, much less Missouri. He’d be in the hospital looking like that woman who got beat up by that crazy MMA fighter.

239 OhNoZombies!  Aug 20, 2014 10:38:47am

re: #232 lawhawk

What would happen if the races were reversed and Brown was white and Wilson was black? The people who have come to Wilson’s defense would flip and would be demanding that Wilson be strung up for murdering a good white kid for no reason. They’d be pushing for lawsuits against the PD for releasing information unrelated to the investigation (the market video), and they’d demand that the focus be kept on the officer’s actions and not on the victim.

The black community? They’d be like - this happens to us every day - where cops kill black kids for no reason, so why start with media attention now, when a white kid is killed in an excessive force instance.

You, sir, have nailed it.

240 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 10:38:50am

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Reuters quoted the police on it, Wednesday:

Police Chief Thomas Jackson told a news conference the unidentified officer was treated at a hospital for swelling on the side of his face, one of the few details released about events surrounding the Saturday night shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown.
reuters.com

241 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 10:38:59am

I WON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING ANYMORE UNLESS I HEAR IT FROM JOSIE HERSELF!

242 BadExampleMan  Aug 20, 2014 10:39:17am

re: #55 Bubblehead II

Well Gov. “The Butch” otter just suffered a set back.

I remember Vice President Otter from The West Wing; did he stage a comeback in Idaho?

243 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:39:28am

re: #238 Lidane

If he was as injured as Hoft claims he is, he wouldn’t have left St. Louis, much less Missouri. He’d be in the hospital looking like that woman who got beat up by that crazy MMA fighter.

HE’S AT TEH MAYO CLINIC BEING TREATED FOR TEH EBOLA & TB & TEH CANCERS THAT HE GOT FROM WHEN THAT THUG TOUCHED HIM!!!!!!!!

244 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:39:38am

re: #238 Lidane

If he was as injured as Hoft claims he is, he wouldn’t have left St. Louis, much less Missouri. He’d be in the hospital looking like that woman who got beat up by that crazy MMA fighter.

Yeah but facts never got in the way of a good lie. Really, let’s see actual photos of Wilson’s eye. Let’s have actual witnesses with actual names collaborate his story. Oh wait, they can’t do that.

245 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 10:40:18am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

By the time anyone sees him the ‘swelling and bruising’ will have vanished.

246 Mike Lamb  Aug 20, 2014 10:40:41am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Would that be the same minimum wage job they want to get rid of? Really conservatives need to stop lecturing about bootstraps when they don’t even want to provide the boots or the straps. But if you ask them how they made it, they made it all by themselves and then you see that they had help from either the Feds, a wealthy benefactor, a mentor, etc. The fact that Paul Ryan is the face of the “bootstrap” element of conservatism should show anyone with a brain what a sham ti is.

1. Go to interview barefoot.
2. ????
3. Get hired
4. ????
5. Make boots
6. ?????
7. Profit.

247 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 10:40:47am

I’m so tired of this shit. I’m glad Holder has taken charge. I do think the fact will come out.

248 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:40:50am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Yeah but facts never got in the way of a good lie. Really, let’s see actual photos of Wilson’s eye. Let’s have actual witnesses with actual names collaborate his story. Oh wait, they can’t do that.

Of course not. If they name witnesses, then the angry mob will go around and intimidate them into changing their stories. Gotta keep them, and their stories anonymous even as we continually assert that they “corroborate” whatever version of Wilson’s story we’re trying to sling.

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249 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:41:01am

JIM HOFT HAS NEVER PLAGIARIZED!!!! HE MAKES UP ALL HIS OWN SHIT!!!!!

250 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:41:41am

All the witnesses to the incident say that Wilson shot Brown.

All of the witnesses indicate that Brown was unarmed.

The difference comes in how Wilson initiated contact with Brown and Johnson and what Brown did after Wilson initiated contact.

Some witnesses claim Brown reached into the car. Others indicate that Wilson grabbed Brown into the car.

All witnesses agree that Brown was shot to death by Wilson.

Any reasonable observer would know that the key to a prosecution is the item I highlighted above. Hoft is trying to obfuscate and put the blame for the incident, and the ensuing use of deadly force on Brown. That’s even as multiple witnesses agree that Wilson was with his hands up.

We can’t get a complete forensics picture because the investigators have not released details that would inform on those points (such as where everyone was standing when each shot was fired, how many bullets were fired, where they were fired, etc.)

251 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 10:41:56am

re: #226 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh look Janie “Never Worked A Day In My Life But Poors Are Lazy” Johnson is telling Jews how to vote==>

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Janie, I wish you knew what a “resume” was.

252 CarolJ  Aug 20, 2014 10:42:02am

Eye injuries are very, very painful. I had a scratched cornea and it hurt to even open my eye. No force of any kind, just a light scratch. Another time it was simply an eyball. Something with enough force to acually break bones around the eye, he wouldn’t have been able to see at all, let alone aim at anything. He would have been staggering around with his head in his hands and bleeding profusely.

nFerguson is a poor community and needs some help

253 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:42:35am

re: #251 GlutenFreeJesus

Janie, I wish you knew what a “resume” was.

The only “resume” people like her is when they resume their daily bitching on the Twittersphere.

254 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:43:17am

If he had an eye injury, no way he’s able to shoot him six times. There’s just no way. Dim Jim should have at least tried something believable.

255 dog philosopher  Aug 20, 2014 10:45:05am

re: #232 lawhawk

What would happen if the races were reversed and Brown was white and Wilson was black? The people who have come to Wilson’s defense would flip and would be demanding that Wilson be strung up for murdering a good white kid for no reason. They’d be pushing for lawsuits against the PD for releasing information unrelated to the investigation (the market video), and they’d demand that the focus be kept on the officer’s actions and not on the victim.

The black community? They’d be like - this happens to us every day - where cops kill black kids for no reason, so why start with media attention now, when a white kid is killed in an excessive force instance.

i disagree

it’s only been a few decades since a black kid was brutally lynched for looking at a white lady the wrong way. many of the people involved are still alive

a few years ago a gay kid was dragged behind a car until he was dead

groups of people who historically have been vulnerable to violence continue to be vulnerable to violence, and people who feel they have a right to commit violence against vulnerable people continue to feel they have a right to commit violence against vulnerable people

256 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 10:45:17am

re: #240 jaunte

Reuters quoted the police on it, Wednesday:

Ah, OK - hadn’t seen that. However - if true, this debunks Hoft’s story about the “blowout fracture” if he was treated and released for “swelling” and nothing more.

257 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:45:21am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

If he had an eye injury, no way he’s able to shoot him six times. There’s just no way. Dim Jim should have at least tried something believable.

The adrenaline numbed the pain and gain him 20/20 vision. He’s that hardcore that an injury that would debilitate anyone else was nothing to him. Puts John McClain to shame!

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258 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:45:57am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

He could have shot 6 times, but if his vision was off, there’s no way he’d have gotten six hits against a moving target, including head shots, especially since the symptoms of a orbital blowout fracture includes double vision and blurry vision.

259 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:46:48am

re: #257 Targetpractice

The adrenaline numbed the pain and gain him 20/20 vision. He’s that hardcore that an injury that would debilitate anyone else was nothing to him. Puts John McClain to shame!

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Look! It’s a plane! It’s a bird! No it’s Super Wilson! But my joking aside, the whole thing just reeks of Hoft trying to spread misinformation but again I’ll say it again, even if true it does not justify Wilson killing Brown at all.

260 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 10:46:48am

re: #257 Targetpractice

The adrenaline numbed the pain and gain him 20/20 vision. He’s that hardcore that an injury that would debilitate anyone else was nothing to him. Puts John McClain to shame!

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He puts the T-1000 to shame if he was able to sustain an eye injury and still empty his gun into another person.

261 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:47:19am

re: #258 lawhawk

He could have shot 6 times, but if his vision was off, there’s no way he’d have gotten six hits against a moving target, including head shots, especially since the symptoms of a orbital blowout fracture includes double vision and blurry vision.

Precisely but don’t tell Dr. Hoft that.//

262 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 10:47:20am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

If he had an eye injury, no way he’s able to shoot him six times. There’s just no way. Dim Jim should have at least tried something believable.

Wilson is an exceptional, well-trained supercop! (Channeling Axel Foley)

263 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:47:46am

re: #260 Lidane

He puts the T-1000 to shame if he was able to sustain an eye injury and still empty his gun into another person.

You know come to think of it, he did look a little bit like Robert Patrick in the photo posted.

264 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:47:50am

re: #256 Charles Johnson

Ah, OK - hadn’t seen that. However - if true, this debunks Hoft’s story about the “blowout fracture” if he was treated and released for “swelling” and nothing more.

He was sort of medically certified as NOT having a blowout fracture, because he would not have been released without more involved treatment.

265 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 10:48:11am

re: #262 GlutenFreeJesus

Wilson is an exceptional, well-trained supercop! (Channeling Axel Foley)

I like the T-1000 reference better though.

266 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 10:48:15am

re: #256 Charles Johnson

Ah, OK - hadn’t seen that. However - if true, this debunks Hoft’s story about the “blowout fracture” if he was treated and released for “swelling” and nothing more.

And he never mentioned anything about an eye injury in those texts to friends.

267 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:48:47am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Look! It’s a plane! It’s a bird! No it’s Super Wilson! But my joking aside, the whole thing just reeks of Hoft trying to spread misinformation but again I’ll say it again, even if true it does not justify Wilson killing Brown at all.

It helps to remember that the Hoft crowd was trying to convince people that George Zimmerman had suffered deep lacerations and a skull fracture due to have his head “repeatedly slammed into the concrete,” and was danger in choking on his own blood from his broken nose, despite the medical report saying he had some cuts, a broken nose, and no signs of a concussion besides a mild headache.

268 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 10:49:05am

re: #264 wrenchwench

He was sort of medically certified as NOT having a blowout fracture, because he would not have been released without more involved treatment.

If he had a blowout fracture, he would almost certainly have required surgery. He definitely would not have been simply treated and released.

269 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 10:49:09am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I like the T-1000 reference better though.

“Get the #%&$ outta here!”

270 iossarian  Aug 20, 2014 10:49:53am

I’d like to say that I’m uncomfortable with the way this whole process of figuring out “exactly” what happened looks exactly like the Trayvon Martin “process”. My version:

Zimmerman followed and accosted an unarmed black high school kid, who ended up dead.

This police officer accosted an unarmed black high school graduate, who ended up dead.

Sometimes a simple version of the facts is all you need.

271 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:51:01am

This seems to be the guy who is on top of that ‘church raid’ story.

See his TL for more.

272 Kilroy01  Aug 20, 2014 10:51:03am

re: #257 Targetpractice

No.. Ferguson has new bullets
Youtube Video

//s

273 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 10:51:10am
274 Mike Lamb  Aug 20, 2014 10:52:07am

re: #252 CarolJ

Eye injuries are very, very painful. I had a scratched cornea and it hurt to even open my eye. No force of any kind, just a light scratch. Another time it was simply an eyball. Something with enough force to acually break bones around the eye, he wouldn’t have been able to see at all, let alone aim at anything. He would have been staggering around with his head in his hands and bleeding profusely.

nFerguson is a poor community and needs some help

I posted in a different thread that I’ve broken one of my orbital bones taking a baseball to the face. Blood was streaming out my nose. Complete vision loss in the eye. I imagine that if this was indeed a “bone crunching” punch, as has been asserted, that the impact was at least in the neighborhood of what happened when the baseball hit me.

Was I ambulatory after taking the blow? Sure. But I certainly didn’t forget that I had been hit and I certainly knew that I had a pretty significant injury. There is no way that he would’ve been able to ignore the issue.

And swelling? When my mom came to see me (I was in college at the time), she walked into my room from my “bad side”. She didn’t even recognize me.

Oh, to add, I was ultimately released—after about 4-5 hours, which included a cat scan for a concussion; a visit from an eye specialist; and other assorted treatments. I still went back to the dorm and vomited blood that night. I had to sleep upright to reduce swelling, then had a return visit to the doc to check for a detached retina, double vision, etc.

Point being—this isn’t the type of injury that entails a quickie check up and off you go. It’s an ordeal.

275 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 10:52:18am

TCOT is Derping that OBAMA JUST WENT BACK TO HIS VACATIONS!!!!!

Hey wingnuts Ronald Reagan vacationed in the Oval Office.

276 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:52:29am

re: #264 wrenchwench

That’s not entirely true either. An orbital blowout fracture can be minor, for which treatment includes oral antibiotics and steroids to reduce pain and swelling. More severe instances can require surgery to repair the damage done.

It clearly didn’t require surgery, because we know Wilson was released and left town.

So, the question is whether Wilson’s injuries are consistent with a minor orbital blowout fracture, or no fracture at all. Given that we know the symptoms of this kind of injury are double vision and blurry vision, it undermines the claims that he had this kind of injury because it would have affected his aim (6 shots hit Brown’s torso and head) and he wasn’t immediately sent to the hospital for treatment (because even minor fractures could lead to the loss of vision).

277 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 10:54:28am

Fox reports another police leak:
Missouri cop was badly beaten

278 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:54:48am

re: #276 lawhawk

That’s not entirely true either. An orbital blowout fracture can be minor, for which treatment includes oral antibiotics and steroids to reduce pain and swelling. More severe instances can require surgery to repair the damage done.

It clearly didn’t require surgery, because we know Wilson was released and left town.

So, the question is whether Wilson’s injuries are consistent with a minor orbital blowout fracture, or no fracture at all. Given that we know the symptoms of this kind of injury are double vision and blurry vision, it undermines the claims that he had this kind of injury because it would have affected his aim (6 shots hit Brown’s torso and head) and he wasn’t immediately sent to the hospital for treatment (because even minor fractures could lead to the loss of vision).

If he did have a facial fracture, it certainly was not as severe as shown in the images posted.

279 Mattand  Aug 20, 2014 10:56:05am

re: #277 jaunte

Fox reports another police leak:
Missouri cop was badly beaten

Check out the comments section on that article.

On second thought, don’t.

280 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 10:57:26am

re: #277 jaunte

Fox reports another police leak:
Missouri cop was badly beaten

EXCLUSIVE: Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department’s top brass told foxnews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

But he was well enough to get out of his SUV and put six rounds into a moving target, including the kill shot.

281 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:57:37am

re: #277 jaunte

Yup, and this leak is giving credence to Hoft’s claims.

The source claims that there is “solid proof” that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman’s firearm, resulting in the gun going off - although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, “What, you’re going to shoot me?”

At that point, the source told foxnews.com, the 6 foot, 4 inch, 300-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown’s skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown’s family.

Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in the fracas, and was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now “traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified” that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will “make some kind of example out of him,” the source said.

The source also said the dashboard and body cameras, which might have recorded crucial evidence, had been ordered by Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, but had only recently arrived and had not yet been deployed.

282 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 10:57:54am

Been watching a British TV show called MI-5 on Netflix.

It’s a post 9-11 CIA type show. The British perspective is interesting. It has over 10 “volumes” so it will be interesting to see how the ideology of the show changes over all the “volumes.” I’m on #4.

There was one show in which they had to capitulate to the US Secret Service for Bush’s visit to see Tony Blair. I rather enjoyed that. Not because I think we are superior, but because it showed the British perspective of American arrogance.

283 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 10:58:19am

re: #277 jaunte

Fox reports another police leak:
Missouri cop was badly beaten

The anonymous source is a liar.

However, foxnews.com’s source insisted that there was absolutely no spin agenda behind the tape’s release and that there were a number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) media requests filed by media outlets seeking it. Tom Jackson is said to have waited on publicly releasing it, and did not want it shown until Brown’s grieving mother first had the chance to see it.

“He defied the FOIAs as long as he could,” noted the insider. “A powerful, ugly spin has completely ruined public discourse on this whole situation.”

Is there proof of no FOIA request for the tape that nobody knew existed?

284 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 10:58:45am

Beaten nearly unconscious, and yet Wilson was not only able to exit the vehicle within moments of the alleged assault, but got off six shots that struck and killed Brown within moments.

285 Jenner7  Aug 20, 2014 10:59:44am

re: #277 jaunte

Wow. Ridiculous.

286 KerFuFFler  Aug 20, 2014 10:59:48am

re: #274 Mike Lamb

I posted in a different thread that I’ve broken one of my orbital bones taking a baseball to the face. Blood was streaming out my nose. Complete vision loss in the eye. I imagine that if this was indeed a “bone crunching” punch, as has been asserted, that the impact was at least in the neighborhood of what happened when the baseball hit me.

Was I ambulatory after taking the blow? Sure. But I certainly didn’t forget that I had been hit and I certainly knew that I had a pretty significant injury. There is no way that he would’ve been able to ignore the issue.

And swelling? When my mom came to see me (I was in college at the time), she walked into my room from my “bad side”. She didn’t even recognize me.

Oh, to add, I was ultimately released—after about 4-5 hours, which included a cat scan for a concussion; a visit from an eye specialist; and other assorted treatments. I still went back to the dorm and vomited blood that night. I had to sleep upright to reduce swelling, then had a return visit to the doc to check for a detached retina, double vision, etc.

Point being—this isn’t the type of injury that entails a quickie check up and off you go. It’s an ordeal.

Thanks for your information. It seems important that dealing such a blow with a fist would leave tell tale injuries on the hand as well——-something the autopsy did not find present. It is possible, however that the car door bumped Wilson’s face. Judging from how he looked in the video immediately following the shooting spree, there could have been no significant injury. He was not bleeding and he did not even touch his face or eye area. The other officer was also not acting like, “Hey, let me check out your face——it looks like you have an injury….”

287 KiTA  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:01am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

288 Kilroy01  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:24am

When did officer Wilson become Jack Bauer?

289 iossarian  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:28am

re: #284 lawhawk

Beaten nearly unconscious, and yet Wilson was not only able to exit the vehicle within moments of the alleged assault, but got off six shots that struck and killed Brown within moments.

Kind of obvious. And yet, here we all are discussing the minutiae of orbital fractures.

Anyway, I don’t mean to complain and carp. Bottom line, the system is working as intended to protect Wilson and sweep Michael Brown under the carpet.

290 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:36am

re: #277 jaunte

Fox reports another police leak:
Missouri cop was badly beaten

Unreal. Now the cops are putting out a story that he was beaten nearly unconscious and suffered severe injuries — but somehow jumped out of the car, chased after Brown and fired at least 6 shots at him.

This sounds like the same leaker who contacted Hoft.

And this really, really stinks.

291 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:42am

Oh, and Wilson was injured so badly that he had to be driven to the hospital with major visible swelling, BUT was not in any way hampered from walking around Brown’s body while video was being recorded.

292 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:59am

re: #246 Mike Lamb

1. Go to interview barefoot.
2. ????
3. Get hired
4. ????
5. Make boots
6. ?????
7. Profit.

Step 6 is attaching straps to boots.

293 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 11:00:59am
294 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 11:01:10am

re: #277 jaunte

Fox reports another police leak:
Missouri cop was badly beaten

EXCLUSIVE: Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department’s top brass told foxnews.com.

I’ve smelt pig shit better than this pile of steaming crap.

295 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 11:01:51am

re: #284 lawhawk

Beaten nearly unconscious, and yet Wilson was not only able to exit the vehicle within moments of the alleged assault, but got off six shots that struck and killed Brown within moments.

Anyone who buys this malarkey is either a weapons grade racist who automatically assumes that all blacks are violent or they’re stupid.

296 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 11:02:10am

re: #293 Charles Johnson

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He seems nice.

Dave Smith followed Gavin McInnes, Steve Sailer, John Derbyshire* and 21 others

297 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 11:02:11am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

If he had an eye injury, no way he’s able to shoot him six times. There’s just no way. Dim Jim should have at least tried something believable.

Maybe the cop is a lefty and uses his Left eye to aim? Huh, did you think of that Mr. Smarty pants liberal?

298 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 11:02:42am

It really is becoming a replay of Trayvon Martin. Now the shooter was not only attacked, but beaten half to death. But well enough that he could leave the hospital and then town within a day.

299 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:03:03am

re: #295 Lidane

re: #296 wrenchwench

So for Dave Smith, we can safely say ‘both’

300 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 11:03:17am

re: #296 wrenchwench

He seems nice.

Not the real Derbs, tho.

*Not the real polymath John Derbyshire, but choice cuts of his most cutting commentary. We. Are. Doomed.

301 calochortus  Aug 20, 2014 11:04:27am

I’m trying to figure out how you get beaten nearly unconscious through a car window. A sucker punch as you lean toward the window, perhaps, but how does someone repeatedly strike you through an opening that size without you at least leaning to the side away from them?

Maybe I just haven’t been involved in enough car-related physical confrontations, but it seems really awkward.

302 iossarian  Aug 20, 2014 11:04:39am

re: #298 Targetpractice

It really is becoming a replay of Trayvon Martin. Now the shooter was not only attacked, but beaten half to death. But well enough that he could leave the hospital and then town within a day.

Enough doubt that no jury could ever reach a decision. That’s all they need.

303 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:04:40am

I’m officially not paying attention to the original crime until the investigation is completed and charges, if any, are filed.

I just can’t stand feeding the vulture media.

The aftermath is a story all on it’s own.

304 Kilroy01  Aug 20, 2014 11:06:01am

I wondering if then it comes out that he was hit in the face (the reported swelling) that they will claim his vision was effected.

Thereby justifying the shoot by claiming his vision and depth perception was impaired.

305 Mattand  Aug 20, 2014 11:06:04am

A FB acquaintance liked something called Operation Blue Monday, which appears to be a rally in support of the police. I’m guessing it’s basically a passive/aggressive response to the people who don’t think Darren Wilson acted professionally, but whatever.

So I put “Operation Blue Monday” into Google to find out what it’s about. The first set of results referenced a federal investigation/sting into child porn. I gave up after that.

So, does anyone know what this is about? The whole thing reeks of “You’re not going to Operation Blue Monday??? You must hate the police!!!!”

306 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 11:06:42am

re: #286 KerFuFFler

Ah yes, the autopsy. What does Baden’s autopsy results say about the physical condition of Brown’s body. He notes the bullet wounds.

What does he say about wounds to Brown’s hands (bruising, hemorrhaging, etc.)? That would be dispositive as to whether he hit Wilson with sufficient force to do as Hoft claims.

307 OhNoZombies!  Aug 20, 2014 11:07:36am

I’m waiting for the witnesses to come forward who actually saw Mike Brown lift the SUV over his head, shake Wilson on to the concrete, then jump 50’ into the air in order to Super Punch him in his eye.
/

308 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 11:07:46am

re: #301 calochortus

I’m trying to figure out how you get beaten nearly unconscious through a car window. A sucker punch as you lean toward the window, perhaps, but how does someone repeatedly strike you through an opening that size without you at least leaning to the side away from them?

Maybe I just haven’t been involved in enough car-related physical confrontations, but it seems really awkward.

Don’t know about most people, but I sure as hell could not pull my arm back very far if I’m leaning in the window of an SUV. A sucker punch I might see, but repeated blows? Not likely.

309 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 11:07:48am

re: #100 urbanmeemaw

I don’t know about you, but I’m starting to think media outlets are being paid to “discover” and disseminate these lies.

Anything to keep the “controversy” going. Click bait/sell newspapers. Profit center, pure and simple.

310 Jenner7  Aug 20, 2014 11:07:55am

If Wilson was beaten so badly, wouldn’t there be evidence on Mike Brown’s hands?? I thought Baden said he had no wounds on hands.

311 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 11:09:22am

re: #302 iossarian

Enough doubt that no jury could ever reach a decision. That’s all they need.

And that’s what it’s about. Introducing enough doubt in a jury’s minds.

312 Mike Lamb  Aug 20, 2014 11:09:45am

re: #295 Lidane

Anyone who buys this malarkey is either a weapons grade racist who automatically assumes that all blacks are violent or they’re stupid.

Seriously. He was beaten so badly that he was still able to shoot with accuracy. Beaten so badly that after the shooting he could wander the crime scene for an extended period of time. Beaten so badly that he was released from the hospital and allowed to leave.

And yet we haven’t seen a picture. Just a steady stream of leaks to move the meter against Brown. I don’t think there’s anyone that wouldn’t view the situation a bit differently if there was a picture of Wilson that was consistent with him having received a “severe” beating.

313 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 11:09:57am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

Beaten nearly unconscious, with a facial fracture no less, but able to get out of the car, line up on Brown, and fire multiple rounds, six of which hit Brown at distance (which is still undetermined because Baden’s autopsy could not conclusively determine whether there was GSR due to the fact that he didn’t have the clothes to test).

Beaten nearly unconscious, but not taken away in an ambulance once backup arrived.

That sounds highly implausible. At best.

314 KiTA  Aug 20, 2014 11:10:28am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

It’s not in dispute. Dorian Johnson admitted they stole the cigars. End of story.

Not quite… you forgot “But that’s irrelevant because the cop didn’t know the kid was a suspect at the time of their altercation.”

315 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 11:11:07am
316 BeachDem  Aug 20, 2014 11:11:17am

re: #276 lawhawk

Also don’t think that if it had been an orbital blowout fracture that the police chief, days later, would have described it as “swelling on the side of his face.”

317 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2014 11:11:39am

re: #290 Charles Johnson

One hard impact with the vehicle door window frame and a guy could get a lot of swelling. But they would take pictures for evidence purposes right? You know being *cough* professional law enforcers and all.

Show me the doctors report, it’s gonna be evidence anyway.
Hell I’m mostly done with the media reports. I just want to see the various reports for myself. There seem to be way too many problems with the current crop of English to English translators.

“Severely beaten” my ass. I don’t think human hands can severely beat anything but a pillow without showing signs. Charles ever do any boxing drills? Bag work? Anyway… Everyone wraps with cloth tape and then bag gloves. It still shows.

318 Ace-o-aces  Aug 20, 2014 11:11:44am

re: #307 OhNoZombies!

I’m waiting for the witnesses to come forward who actually saw Mike Brown lift the SUV over his head, shake Wilson on to the concrete, then jump 50’ into the air in order to Super Punch him in his eye.
/

Not just Super Punch, MMA SUPERPUNCH!!!!!!!!!

319 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 11:12:07am

re: #307 OhNoZombies!

I’m waiting for the witnesses to come forward who actually saw Mike Brown lift the SUV over his head, shake Wilson on to the concrete, then jump 50’ into the air in order to Super Punch him in his eye.
/

Wilson obviously went up against Deathlok:

320 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 11:12:27am

re: #125 Lidane

Fake plumber says what?

Joe the Plumber Has a #HotTake on Those ‘Cockroaches’ in Ferguson

Another winner Senator McCain foisted on the American populace.

321 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:12:58am

re: #320 WhatEVs

Another winner Senator McCain foisted on the American populace.

Another one that McCain hasn’t apologized for either.

322 Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2014 11:13:00am

re: #315 Pie-onist Overlord

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Apparently Michael Brown didn’t realize that that day, he was tangling with Super Cop.

323 iossarian  Aug 20, 2014 11:13:01am

re: #313 lawhawk

That sounds highly implausible. At best.

You know, I thought it was implausible that a guy who followed a teenager through a neighborhood and confronted him, when he’d been told not to by the police, and who wound up killing said unarmed teenager, could be considered to not have, in fact, instigated the killing of said teenager.

But the jury didn’t convict.

324 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 11:13:13am

re:
#293

Wow, sounds really serious. //

325 stpaulbear  Aug 20, 2014 11:13:15am

re: #291 Targetpractice

Oh, and Wilson was injured so badly that he had to be driven to the hospital with major visible swelling, BUT was not in any way hampered from walking around Brown’s body while video was being recorded.

I thought that in previous versions Darren Wilson drove away from the scene in his own vehicle.

326 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 11:14:25am

re: #280 Targetpractice

a source close to the department’s top brass told foxnews.com

Do you suppose the name of this source might be…Jim Hoft?

327 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 11:14:37am

Sorry, but if the cop had been beaten this badly there is no way the captain would not have released this information ASAP. It’s utter bullshit and now any jury pool has been so tainted, there is zero chance of a conviction let alone an indictment.

328 OhNoZombies!  Aug 20, 2014 11:14:55am

re: #319 Timothy Watson

Wilson obviously went up against Deathlok:
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I kept picturing Cyborg, but Deathlok is more accurate.

329 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:15:10am

re: #327 Kid A

Sorry, but if the cop had been beaten this badly there is no way the captain would not have released this information ASAP. It’s utter bullshit and now any jury pool has been so tainted, there is zero chance of a conviction let alone an indictment.

I think that’s exactly what Hoft intended to do. Shameless fucker.

330 dog philosopher  Aug 20, 2014 11:15:32am

i expect to hear soon that officer wilson was brutally dismembered and partially eaten

331 iossarian  Aug 20, 2014 11:16:40am

But remember folks, the highest legal authority in the land thinks racism isn’t a problem any more!

So at least we have that.

332 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 20, 2014 11:16:45am

re: #315 Pie-onist Overlord

It’s true.

333 Mattand  Aug 20, 2014 11:16:55am

re: #330 dog philosopher

i expect to hear soon that officer wilson was brutally dismembered and partially eaten

He was, but but he used his mutant Deadpool powers to pull himself back together.

334 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 11:16:56am

re: #327 Kid A

It’s utter bullshit and now any jury pool has been so tainted, there is zero chance of a conviction let alone an indictment.

That was the plan all along, and they’ve succeeded.

335 dog philosopher  Aug 20, 2014 11:17:25am

i hear gov nixon is the best nixon available out of the universe of all possible nixons

336 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:18:14am

re: #335 dog philosopher

That’s a sad universe.

337 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:19:01am

I vote for Marni Nixon’s universe.

338 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:19:39am

The Aftermath:

Missouri GOP Furious Over ‘Disgusting’ Voter Registration Booths In Ferguson

339 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 11:19:47am
340 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 20, 2014 11:20:47am

My question is did Officer Wilson call for backup? And When?

341 Ace-o-aces  Aug 20, 2014 11:20:50am

re: #330 dog philosopher

i expect to hear soon that officer wilson was brutally dismembered and partially eaten

HE WAZ CUZ BROWN WAZ ON TEH MARJAWANA AND HAD TEH MUNCHIES!!!!!!!!

342 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 20, 2014 11:21:40am

re: #335 dog philosopher

Even better than Mojo Nixon?

343 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:21:50am

re: #338 FemNaziBitch

The Aftermath:

Missouri GOP Furious Over ‘Disgusting’ Voter Registration Booths In Ferguson

The GOP should have just been honest and said that they were disgusted that people were registering to vote period. Really though? Are they this tone deaf? You’ve got an obvious incident of police misconduct and a prosecutor’s office that doesn’t give a damn. You can bet damn well the people of Ferguson are going to want a new sheriff and DA.

344 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:22:05am

re: #323 iossarian

You know, I thought it was implausible that a guy who followed stalked a teenager through a neighborhood and confronted him, when he’d been told not to by the police, and who wound up killing murdering said unarmed teenager, could be considered to not have, in fact, instigated pre-meditated the killing murder of said teenager.

But the jury didn’t convict.

FTFY

345 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:23:00am

What’s disgusting is the GOP doing its best to be a more well funded version of the American Independence Party.

346 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 11:23:36am

Note that in the awards photos from a few months ago, Officer Wilson has a mildly receding hairline but still a pretty fair amount of hair cover. In the witness video he appears to have little or no hair.
That’s it, Brown snatched him bald, scalped him with his bare hands. There is no blood because Brown scooped it up and ate it before the heroic but hairless Wilson could get out of the car.

347 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 11:23:38am

*flips desk, nukes it from orbit*

Wayne Allyn Root: Barack Obama ‘Brought Back’ Racism To America

Conservative writer Wayne Allyn Root joined Steve Deace yesterday to talk about the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, which Root concluded are evidence that President Obama “didn’t come in to help us end the specter of racism, he brought it back.”

“It’s like we’re reliving the 1960s with Barack Obama,” he said.

Root claimed that police in Ferguson were intentionally letting looting take place in a “racist overreaction by a police department that is scared of being called racist.”

348 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 11:24:18am

re:
#338

For today’s GOP, voter registration is like giving away free stuff.

349 Kilroy01  Aug 20, 2014 11:24:24am

Officer Wilson in:

350 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 11:24:39am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

What’s disgusting is the GOP doing its best to be a more well funded version of the American Independence Party.

That would almost be a step up, considering they’ve been an unholy combination of the John Birch Society, the Dixiecrats and the Know-Nothings for the last two decades. :-P

351 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:24:48am

re: #347 Lidane

*flips desk, nukes it from orbit*

Wayne Allyn Root: Barack Obama ‘Brought Back’ Racism To America

352 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:24:50am

Police appear to have ‘lost’ the bullet that struck Mya Aaten-White and was removed from her skull.

She also retained Marwan Porter, a Florida-based attorney who specializes in cases involving police misconduct and personal injury. He’s in town now, and Daily RFT spoke with him yesterday as he drove to the Ferguson Police Department to try to obtain Aaten-White’s case files.

“We want to find out who and what agency took possession of the bullet,” he said. “We want to identify who was responsible for firing the weapon that ended up with a bullet being lodged in the front of Mya’s head.”

When we spoke with him several hours later, the story just got weirder.

“I’ve talked to both the St. Louis County Police Department and Ferguson…they have no record…no file number, no report,” he said. “They don’t have anything.”
wonkette.com

353 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:25:24am

DO WE HAVE a death toll for Ferguson?

354 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 20, 2014 11:25:43am

re: #228 KerFuFFler

Yeah, my bad, with all the stuff that has happened and my limited time reading I missed it.

355 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:25:50am

re: #347 Lidane

*flips desk, nukes it from orbit*

Wayne Allyn Root: Barack Obama ‘Brought Back’ Racism To America

Brought back? Okay Wayne……….

356 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 11:26:34am

re: #352 jaunte

Police appear to have ‘lost’ the bullet that struck Mya Aaten-White and was removed from her skull.

Chain of evidence, how the fuck does that work?

357 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:26:40am

re: #350 Lidane

That would almost be a step up, considering they’ve been an unholy combination of the John Birch Society, the Dixiecrats and the Know-Nothings for the last two decades. :-P

Heh true Curtis Lemay was just an ultrahawk and Wallace an opportunist.

358 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 11:26:48am

Bringing up the rear, Glenn Greenwald’s “crack” journalism squad

360 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:27:12am

re: #352 jaunte

Police appear to have ‘lost’ the bullet that struck Mya Aaten-White and was removed from her skull.

What the fuck is wrong with this police department.

361 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 11:27:21am

re: #234 calochortus

I’ll bet I know the answer! Most Jewish folks will vote just like they did last time around. Nice try, Janie.

The “Jews to join GOP” has been a masturbatory fever dream for the Commentary set [obligatory Annie Hall “Commentary and Dissent merged and formed Dysentery” joke] since at least 1992 (when George The First who was a little “Ixnay on the Ewjay” was disposed of).

It’s the hope of the future for the American Jewish Right. And always will be.

362 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:27:39am

re: #359 FemNaziBitch

Let’s Not Let This Get Buried: Deported Children Being Killed After Being Sent Back.

Terrible. Hope you sleep well tonight Steve King.

363 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:27:52am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Chain of evidence, how the fuck does that work?

depends on the individuals involved.

It’s not like on TV.

364 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2014 11:28:12am

re: #356 Timothy Watson

Chain of evidence, how the fuck does that work?

That’s the kind of procedural error that gets murderers off the hook on a technicality. Raises sufficient doubt that the bullet presented as evidence is the actual bullet removed.

365 Ian G.  Aug 20, 2014 11:28:40am

re: #322 Targetpractice

Maybe Wilson is a T-1000. They look like cops, and you can shoot ‘em full of shotgun blasts, and they just regenerate to cover up the damage.

/

366 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 20, 2014 11:28:51am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

Are you implying this wasn’t intentional?

367 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:29:06am

re: #361 Schadenboner

The “Jews to join GOP” has been a masturbatory fever dream for the Commentary set [obligatory Annie Hall “Commentary and Dissent merged and formed Dysentery” joke] since at least 1992 (when George The First who was a little “Ixnay on the Ewjay” was disposed of).

It’s the hope of the future for the American Jewish Right. And always will be.

Hell the right hasn’t even won over Catholics really yet let alone Jews. The only demo group the right has in large numbers are White Protestants. Fortunately for them, there’s a lot of White Protestants but unfortunately for them, the country’s demographics are changing racially and religiously.

368 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:29:44am

re: #366 Internet Tough Guy

Are you implying this wasn’t intentional?

No, not at all. I’m saying there’s something wrong with that police department and their actions.

369 Mattand  Aug 20, 2014 11:29:59am

re: #347 Lidane

*flips desk, nukes it from orbit*

Wayne Allyn Root: Barack Obama ‘Brought Back’ Racism To America

Not so much ‘brought back’ as ‘exposed everyone to how steeped in racism this country actually is by being elected fair-and-square.’

370 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 11:30:46am

As anyone who’s watched L&O, NCIS, Bones, or CSI would know, if you’ve been involved in a fight and were found deceased, the coroner/medical examiner would find bruising on the hands, unless the person didn’t put up a struggle. The reason that we know this is because it’s an accurate reflection of what coroners find when reviewing the remains of someone who fought back and died. It’s a trope of tv shows dating back to Quincy because it’s true.

Baden’s statements regarding the autopsy don’t indicate any bruising to the hands indicative of a fight.

We’d have to wait for the official autopsy, and the DOJ autopsy to confirm that there was/wasn’t any bruising that would indicate that Brown landed a punch on Wilson.

371 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:30:56am

re: #366 Internet Tough Guy

Are you implying this wasn’t intentional?

It doesn’t have to be. I’m amazed at the lack of understanding of empirical science among the more intelligent of our species.

IMHO, most Police Officers have a decent brain. IT seems even they get tired of dull, boring, procedure. Little slip-ups add up.

372 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 11:31:31am

re: #358 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing up the rear, Glenn Greenwald’s “crack” journalism squad

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He’s not there to report stories, he’s there to get arrested, give him a break.

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edit-their, there

373 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 11:31:37am

So, in what world is “Officer Wilson has left the state” *not* interstate flight to avoid prosecution? Especially if it was just the PD that decided to get him out of Dodge.

374 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 11:31:38am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

What the fuck is wrong with this police department.

Virtually everything from what I can tell.

375 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:31:45am

re: #369 Mattand

Not so much ‘brought back’ as ‘exposed everyone to how steeped in racism this country actually is by being elected fair-and-square.’

Yeah that was terrible of him. But yeah I do agree, Obama’s election and then re-election showed while we have come a long way as a country, we’ve got a lot of people like Mr.Root himself that would be all too happy to return to Jim Crow.

376 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 11:32:07am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Terrible. Hope you sleep well tonight Steve King.

Are you kidding? These are masturbatory fantasies for the likes of King.

377 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:32:12am

re: #371 FemNaziBitch

It doesn’t have to be. I’m amazed at the lack of understanding of empirical science among the more intelligent of our species.

IMHO, most Police Officers have a decent brain. IT seems even they get tired of dull, boring, procedure. Little slip-ups add up.

But they had to go to the hospital intentionally to pick up the bullet.

378 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:32:54am

re: #376 WhatEVs

Are you kidding? These are masturbatory fantasies for the likes of King.

Yeah I was guilty of thinking that the fuck had something resembling some decency.

379 BeachDem  Aug 20, 2014 11:33:40am

re: #373 Schadenboner

So, in what world is “Officer Wilson has left the state” *not* interstate flight to avoid prosecution? Especially if it was just the PD that decided to get him out of Dodge.

That article yesterday (I think in the Telegraph? Not all that reliable, but) said he was still in the St. Louis area and had 24 hour police protection—don’t know if it’s true.

380 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 11:34:22am

re: #232 lawhawk

The black community? They’d be like - this happens to us every day - where cops kill black kids for no reason, so why start with media attention now, when a white kid is killed in an excessive force instance.

I saw a similar argument on the Breitebart site…mentioning how over 50 black kids were shot in Chicago last year and then the question “where was the outrage”?

381 Jenner7  Aug 20, 2014 11:34:35am

re: #352 jaunte

But the people are supposed to have faith and trust these clowns?!?!?

382 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 11:35:05am

WTFITS:

Fox Panelist Wishes Obama Would Act As Strongly As He Did After Benghazi (VIDEO)

Isn’t the whole wharglbargl about Benghazi that Obama didn’t do shit about it? Talking points, settle on them.

383 Schadenboner  Aug 20, 2014 11:36:17am

re: #382 Lidane

I’ve never seen better practitioners of Costanzaism (“It’s not a lie if you believe it”) than on FoxNews.

384 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:36:39am

re: #381 Jenner7

But the people are supposed to have faith and trust these clowns?!?!?

I don’t blame them at all if they don’t.

385 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 11:36:39am

Most police officers have had experience, not just with charging psychos, but with reckless types trying to punch them through a car window. Few of the latter end up being shot, though other forms of rough treatment are commonplace. I’ve never tried it myself, but hitting somewhere through a car window is apparently hard to do. During my deputy days, I had a 50 year old truck driver throw a punch at me through my window. Unlike the fat teenager who had charged me a little earlier, this was a tough, scary looking guy. Scary but stupid. I ducked, he knocked my cap off and broke three of his fingers against the door frame. I think I was laughing too hard to shoot him, as he jumped around screaming and holding his bloodied hand (they were bad fractures). He was not handcuffed nor did he go immediately to jail, a visit to the ER came first and jail later.

386 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 11:36:44am

re: #153 Jayleia

Ah, Buster another VERY short but very unmemorable time here…
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Good use of my photoshop! Updinged.

387 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 11:37:41am

re: #358 Pie-onist Overlord

Bringing up the rear, Glenn Greenwald’s “crack” journalism squad

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388 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 11:37:46am

re: #352 jaunte

The FPD has shown a stunning lack of professionalism throughout the entire chain of events in the Brown shooting through the protests. The loss of critical evidence in a shooting that occurred during the protests is yet more proof of the problems with this department and their policies and procedures. It’s inexcusable.

389 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:39:12am

re: #388 lawhawk

The FPD has shown a stunning lack of professionalism throughout the entire chain of events in the Brown shooting through the protests. The loss of critical evidence in a shooting that occurred during the protests is yet more proof of the problems with this department and their policies and procedures. It’s inexcusable.

It’s a great argument for more federal oversight.

390 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 11:40:02am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

And that will probably come in the form of a consent decree because they can’t afford to defend their actions in court.

391 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 11:40:33am

re: #388 lawhawk

The FPD has shown a stunning lack of professionalism throughout the entire chain of events in the Brown shooting through the protests. The loss of critical evidence in a shooting that occurred during the protests is yet more proof of the problems with this department and their policies and procedures. It’s inexcusable.

You’re making it sound as if it wasn’t intentional…

392 Bear  Aug 20, 2014 11:41:17am

Wasn’t there some movies made long ago about the PD? Keystone Cops.
//

393 Timothy Watson  Aug 20, 2014 11:42:33am

re: #363 FemNaziBitch

depends on the individuals involved.

It’s not like on TV.

Oh, I know (my B.S. is in criminal justice). My question was rhetorical.

394 BeachDem  Aug 20, 2014 11:42:40am

Charles P. Pierce’s take on ChuckyC

…Charles C. Johnson, a walking pustule we last saw involving himself in the hilarity surrounding the Mississippi Republican senatorial primary, to unlimber his inner bacterium on the Twitter machine.

esquire.com

395 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 11:42:51am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

Yeah I was guilty of thinking that the fuck had something resembling some decency.

I doubt you could name a handful of Republican’s who do. Sociopathy is the thing that binds them. Lack of empathy, care, or concern for the world’s children, hell, US children. There is none. They are all sociopaths. Whether they realize it or not, they are.

DSM-4-TR

A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:

- failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
- deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
- impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
- irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
- reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
- consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
- lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;

B) The individual is at least age 18 years.
C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or a manic episode.

ASPD falls under the dramatic/erratic cluster of personality disorders

ICD-10

The WHO’s International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, tenth edition (ICD-10), has a diagnosis called dissocial personality disorder (F60.2):[10][11]

It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

- Callous unconcern for the feelings of others;
- Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations;
- Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them;
- Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence;
- Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment;
- Marked readiness to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

The ICD states that this diagnosis includes “amoral, antisocial, asocial, psychopathic, and sociopathic personality”. Although the disorder is not synonymous with conduct disorder, presence of conduct disorder during childhood or adolescence may further support the diagnosis of dissocial personality disorder. There may also be persistent irritability as an associated feature.

It is a requirement of the ICD-10 that a diagnosis of any specific personality disorder also satisfies a set of general personality disorder criteria.

396 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 11:43:01am
BustersView (-31)

What’s the LGF record for downdings?

397 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:43:07am

re: #377 jaunte

But they had to go to the hospital intentionally to pick up the bullet.

I know. Just like they intentially go to pick-up rape kits … .

398 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 11:43:51am

re: #359 FemNaziBitch

Let’s Not Let This Get Buried: Deported Children Being Killed After Being Sent Back.

Daily kos, that links to think progress, that links to the real source finally…
latimes.com

399 FemNaziBitch  Aug 20, 2014 11:44:28am

bbl

400 klys  Aug 20, 2014 11:47:07am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

What’s the LGF record for downdings?

A lot higher than that.

401 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 11:47:42am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

What’s the LGF record for downdings?

IIRC there were folks getting downdings by the hundreds back when the wingnuts were running free around here.

402 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:48:58am

re: #401 Lidane

IIRC there were folks getting downdings by the hundreds back when the wingnuts were running free around here.

I’d be interested heh in what the highest upding was for yesterday and then seeing what it was for the same date ten years ago. Ditto downdings.This place has changed and for the better.

403 klys  Aug 20, 2014 11:49:27am

Interesting graphic. From Twitter, so typical disclaimer of “I haven’t looked at the statistics behind it”, but…

404 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 11:49:54am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

What’s the LGF record for downdings?

This one holds the record I believe.

littlegreenfootballs.com

405 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 11:50:11am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

What’s the LGF record for downdings?

In the modern era?

406 klys  Aug 20, 2014 11:50:41am

On the church thing before, this was the latest I saw (hat-tip to WW for the Twitter link).

407 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:51:17am

re: #404 Bubblehead II

This one holds the record I believe.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Yeah I think that is the record since I saw that brought up when a similar inquiry was made. Wonder what the record for updings was.

408 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 11:52:15am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think that is the record since I saw that brought up when a similar inquiry was made. Wonder what the record for updings was.

Can’t be sure, but I think it was CL when she recovered from her aneurysm.

409 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 11:53:33am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think that is the record since I saw that brought up when a similar inquiry was made. Wonder what the record for updings was.

Funny thing is, that comment would not receive all those downdings if it were posted now. Although saying somebody else should have an abortion is just as bad as saying somebody else should not have one.

410 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 11:53:41am
411 klys  Aug 20, 2014 11:53:47am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

Can’t be sure, but I think it was CL when she recovered from her aneurysm.

Which is an excellent choice for good news to be celebrated.

412 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:54:59am

re: #409 Pie-onist Overlord

Funny thing is, that comment would not receive all those downdings if it were posted now. Although saying somebody else should have an abortion is just as bad as saying somebody else should not have one.

Yeah that’s why I would be interested in seeing what got the most up and down dings ten years ago versus today. I do agree that saying someone should have had an abortion is just as bad. A lot of the other criticism of Palin I thought was pretty fair though.

413 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:56:08am

re: #411 klys

Which is an excellent choice for good news to be celebrated.

Yeah, I was thinking it would be something like that. The great thing about this site is it really is a community in the dictionary sense of the word. People talking music, sports, movies, etc. Charles does a great job posting new music and so do many of our fellow lizards.

414 KiTA  Aug 20, 2014 11:56:27am

re: #410 Charles Johnson

Oh, so the police have that evidence of Wilson freaking out and shooting an unarmed kid 6 times? Yeah, that’s going to ‘go missing’ just like the bullet in that protester.

415 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 11:56:42am

re: #408 Pie-onist Overlord

Can’t be sure, but I think it was CL when she recovered from her aneurysm.

Makes sense that it would be something like that. CL is a tough one and LGF wouldn’t be the same without her.

416 klys  Aug 20, 2014 11:57:38am

re: #409 Pie-onist Overlord

Funny thing is, that comment would not receive all those downdings if it were posted now. Although saying somebody else should have an abortion is just as bad as saying somebody else should not have one.

It was more than just saying she should have had an abortion, it’s implying that she should have because he has Down’s syndrome. That moves far too uncomfortably close to eugenics-type arguments for me.

There were lots of other things to criticize her for without needing to go there.

417 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 11:57:55am

re: #275 Pie-onist Overlord

TCOT is Derping that OBAMA JUST WENT BACK TO HIS VACATIONS!!!!!

Hey wingnuts Ronald Reagan vacationed in the Oval Office.

I’m pretty sure Bush 2 did also. And he still took how many vacations to the Texas “ranch” to get away from it all. Cheney and staff were the actual office holders. GW2 was a face.

418 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 11:58:16am
419 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 11:58:55am

re: #404 Bubblehead II

This one holds the record I believe.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I am absent from that pile-on.
I think what raised the ire of the then-lizards was not so much the poster’s opposition to McCain’s choice of Palin, as the attack on Palin’s children, in particular the decision to bring Trig into the world with Downs syndrome and to hold Bristol out of school during her pregnancy. These are very personal decisions that outsiders should not try to second guess. It also didn’t help that the poster used the expression “trailer trash.” I would have given it about a thousand downdings for that alone if I had them and had been there.

420 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 12:00:47pm

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel

in particular the decision to bring Trig into the world with Downs syndrome and to hold Bristol out of school during her pregnancy

I gave her a downding for that; there was plenty to criticize Palin for without dragging the kids into it.

421 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:02:14pm

re: #416 klys

It was more than just saying she should have had an abortion, it’s implying that she should have because he has Down’s syndrome. That moves far too uncomfortably close to eugenics-type arguments for me.

There were lots of other things to criticize her for without needing to go there.

Right, that part bothers me too. I had no issue with what she chose to do in regards to having her child. I did take issue with Palin using Trigg as a defense mechanism against attacks on her though and then claiming that liberals hate kids with DS. That one hurt personally. My great aunt had Downs Syndrome and my grandfather, her little brother loved her very much and he was liberal. Hell though on the subject of Bristol, Obama as a candidate showed a lot of class there that I know for a fact would have not been offered his way. He talked about being the child of a teen mom himself and wished Bristol well. I can’t imagine any GOP candidate showing any class to Obama’s family if one of his daughter’s at that age were unwed and pregnant. Hell they’d be using it as “proof” of their superior “family values” and the usual suspects would be talking about unwed blacks and pregnancies. I have a lot of problems with Palin but being a 40+ year old mom was far from them. It’s Pro-Choice after all and my own youngest brother was born when our mom was 42.

422 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 12:03:47pm

re: #404 Bubblehead II

This one holds the record I believe.

littlegreenfootballs.com

-482….impressive.

423 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 12:04:37pm

re: #396 Dr. Matt

What’s the LGF record for downdings?

I forget exactly but it was over 300…

424 Charles Johnson  Aug 20, 2014 12:05:01pm

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel

I downdinged it because I thought saying she should have had an abortion because the child had Down syndrome was heartless and cruel.

425 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 12:05:04pm

I was called “trailer trash” a lot when I was young. It hurts because I knew that people less capable than I were using it to try to close doors to me. I hate aristocrats in general and the tin horn pseudo-aristocracy of middle America in particular. They still cannot understand why so many intellectuals hold them in abject contempt or why the occasional self-made millionaire goes out of his or her way to piss on them when the chance arises.

426 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:05:21pm

YEah, it’s one thing to criticize Sarah Palin and I have done my share of that but I stayed away from criticizing her kids until Bristol and Willow showed themselves to be just as nasty as Mom when they posted homophobic slurs at a critic of hers and attacked POTUS for coming out n favor of gay marriage and like Momma Palin claiming that Obama watched too much Glee with Michelle and their girls and that was why he had decided that. I have much more respect for Bush’s twins, and Meaghan McCain than the Palin older daughters and after last election Romney’s sons who are dicks just like their Dad too.

427 klys  Aug 20, 2014 12:06:35pm

Meanwhile, in Iceland…

428 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 12:07:01pm

re: #422 Dr. Matt

-482….impressive.

That’s the net. It’s 484 down and 4 up. Although that should be 480, right? Two abstentions?

429 Kilroy01  Aug 20, 2014 12:07:54pm

re: #427 klys

Wonder what god is mad at Iceland about this this time?
Nerfing the Hurricane I hope

430 calochortus  Aug 20, 2014 12:07:54pm

re: #427 klys

Meanwhile, in Iceland…

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Oh. Dear.

431 Ace-o-aces  Aug 20, 2014 12:08:05pm

re: #410 Charles Johnson

Wow, he looks remarkably good for someone who just suffered major head trauma.

432 Stanley Sea  Aug 20, 2014 12:08:23pm

re: #427 klys

Meanwhile, in Iceland…

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Wow. At least this one is easier to pronounce than Eyjafjallajökull.

433 klys  Aug 20, 2014 12:09:09pm

re: #429 Kilroy01

Wonder what god is mad at Iceland about this this time?
Nerfing the Hurricane I hope

re: #430 calochortus

Oh. Dear.

I dislike the photo because it’s very misleading.

The volcano is …stirring in a way that eruption seems possible if not likely, but we aren’t there yet.

Here’s a webcam! I like the new model of webcams everywhere.

434 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 12:09:52pm

re: #424 Charles Johnson

I downdinged it because I thought saying she should have had an abortion because the child had Down syndrome was heartless and cruel.

I think we all pretty much felt the same way and the comments iirc reflected that view. Some, quite bluntly.

435 klys  Aug 20, 2014 12:11:17pm
436 calochortus  Aug 20, 2014 12:11:31pm

re: #433 klys

Thanks. I heard yesterday that it was acting up and being watched.

437 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 12:12:12pm

I call bullshit. The Almighty has clearly been slacking for the last several thousand years, so why he would care about this?

Renew America: God Will Bless America For Impeaching Obama

Preserving our nation is as much a spiritual as a political undertaking, just as it was at the time of our founding. Like our forbears [sic], we need to humble ourselves before God, repent of our personal and collective sins, and be worthy of His grace, Providence, and miraculous intervention.

That — and do everything in our power, under our system of government, to apply the constitutional remedy of impeachment and removal to the dire situation urgently facing our republic.

438 klys  Aug 20, 2014 12:12:42pm

re: #435 klys

Youtube Video

…nope, still can’t pronounce it.

439 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:13:30pm

re: #437 Lidane

I call bullshit. The Almighty has clearly been slacking for the last several thousand years, so why he would care about this?

Renew America: God Will Bless America For Impeaching Obama

If you seriously think the worst thing done against your idea of God in our nation’s history is electing Barack Obama, you’re a clueless racist asshole with no sense of history or decency.

440 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 12:13:40pm

I thought for a sec I had lost a brother to the derp side. He posted this on FB. (Didn’t write it.)

Why We Didn’t Vaccinate Our Child

But no, it is sane.

We’re not ashamed to say that there are many vaccines we haven’t given our child. Here’s why…

Pertussis, also known as “whooping cough”, is a bacterial disease that can permanently injure or kill a child. Despite the pertussis epidemic currently sweeping California, we didn’t vaccinate our son against pertussis, because he’s only one month old. And you can’t vaccinate a child against pertussis until he is like two months old. Of course we will when he’s old enough. We’re not morons.

Yellow fever is a viral disease that’s common in Africa and parts of South America. It’s pretty much non-existent in the U.S., so it would be kinda silly to vaccinate our son against it now. No one does that. But if we’re ever going to be visiting those parts of the world, of course we’ll vaccinate him against Yellow fever. We’re not drooling idiots with no regard for the welfare of our child.

[…]

[Emphasis added.]

It goes on like that. Actually, it gets better.

441 Kragar  Aug 20, 2014 12:15:14pm
442 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 12:15:56pm

WTFITS:
I’m pretty sure if Michael Brown had a FB it would be taken down by now and also too: how many Michael Browns do you think are on Facebook?

443 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 12:16:06pm

re: #438 klys

Bar-tha-boonk-uh

I think. :-)

444 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:16:10pm

re: #438 klys

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Video

…nope, still can’t pronounce it.

Take heart, it’s not that one Welsh village that my friend visited.Love the Welsh in my limited encounters with them. My cousin’s English husband has a good Welsh friend and he had me ask the guy if it was true that Wales belonged to England. Got a shot out of it.
Youtube Video

445 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 12:16:30pm

re: #428 wrenchwench

That’s the net. It’s 484 down and 4 up. Although that should be 480, right? Two abstentions?

Two that both up and down digned, they canceled themselves out…

446 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 12:16:39pm

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Terrible. Hope you sleep well tonight Steve King.

He’ll sleep just fine. The dude has no soul, conscience, awareness or any redeeming traits. In fact I bet you if you could be in his inner group you’d hear something about how those kids mean nothing to him. Maybe even something along the lines of they got what they deserved.

He’s on the Hellbound Train.

447 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 12:16:49pm

re: #441 Kragar

“Becoming an anatomic pathologist in the United States requires completing a residency in anatomic pathology, which is on-the-job training one must perform upon completing medical school before one may practice unsupervised.”

448 klys  Aug 20, 2014 12:18:50pm

re: #443 WhatEVs

Bar-tha-boonk-uh

I think. :-)

As Icelanders like their geoscientists, I ran into one or two natives in grad school.

They politely listened to me mangle every attempt I ever made, and I politely refrained from trying often.

449 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 20, 2014 12:18:51pm

That’s cold.

450 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 12:19:46pm

re: #448 klys

I’ve now said it to myself so many times I’m going to be dreaming it.

451 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 12:19:58pm

Wow Steve Stockman is having a major butthurt over the Rick Perry indictment. Could he be next?

452 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 12:20:12pm

re: #449 Shiplord Kirel

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That’s cold.

Just the rich ones!

453 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 12:20:21pm

re: #441 Kragar

BREAKING: Mike Brown Autopsy “Expert” NOT A DOCTOR - Has Degree in NON-EXISTENT MEDICAL FIELD

Parcells is a Professor, Michael Baden is a doctor, Jim Hoft is a purveyor of Nothingburger.

454 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:20:42pm

re: #451 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow Steve Stockman is having a major butthurt over the Rick Perry indictment. Could he be next?

We can only hope but I doubt it. I think he’s just upset because he thinks conservatives are above the law.

455 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 12:21:16pm
456 WhatEVs  Aug 20, 2014 12:22:05pm

re: #454 HappyWarrior

We can only hope but I doubt it. I think he’s just upset because he thinks conservatives are above the law.

Most conservatives do. All rich conservatives definitely do.

457 Kragar  Aug 20, 2014 12:22:30pm

HAS EVERYTHING GONE INSANE?

Kos linking to LGF… I

*swoon - thud*

458 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 12:22:46pm

re: #449 Shiplord Kirel

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That’s cold.

TOO SOON!

459 Lidane  Aug 20, 2014 12:22:50pm

*sigh*

Fox Host Suggests All Muslims Are Like ISIS, Says Problem Should Be Solved “With A Bullet To The Head”

ANDREA TANTAROS: If you study the history of Islam. Our ship captains were getting murdered. The French had to tip us off. I mean these were the days of Thomas Jefferson. They’ve been doing the same thing. This isn’t a surprise. You can’t solve it with a dialogue. You can’t solve it with a summit. You solve it with a bullet to the head. Its the only thing these people understand. And all we’ve heard from this president is a case to heap praise on this religion, as if to appease them.

460 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 12:24:20pm

re: #442 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS:
I’m pretty sure if Michael Brown had a FB it would be taken down by now and also too: how many Michael Browns do you think are on Facebook?

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ahem…

Although there is no way to determine whether the page belongs to the Michael Brown Jr. who was recently murdered to St. Louis, it does raise some serious questions.

We are just asking the question, what if it is his page and not some poser or troll or something we put up ourselves five minutes before sitting down to write this drivel?

461 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:24:57pm

re: #459 Lidane

*sigh*

Fox Host Suggests All Muslims Are Like ISIS, Says Problem Should Be Solved “With A Bullet To The Head”

Something tells me Andrea wasn’t saying this after Bush pretty much said the same thing after 9/11 about Muslims. Really evil stuff but par the course from FNC.

462 Kragar  Aug 20, 2014 12:27:08pm
463 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 12:28:06pm

LOL crazy wingnut thinks Alex Jones is a “false flag”

464 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2014 12:28:48pm

re: #437 Lidane

I call bullshit. The Almighty has clearly been slacking for the last several thousand years, so why he would care about this?

Renew America: God Will Bless America For Impeaching Obama

Funny. God blessed us with his election. Twice.

465 Kragar  Aug 20, 2014 12:30:18pm
466 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 12:30:45pm

re: #382 Lidane

WTFITS:

Fox Panelist Wishes Obama Would Act As Strongly As He Did After Benghazi (VIDEO)

Isn’t the whole wharrrglbarrrgl about Benghazi that Obama didn’t do shit about it? Talking points, settle on them.

All conservative wingnut talking points are fungible. Also called “winging it.”

467 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 12:31:37pm

re: #459 Lidane

*sigh*

Fox Host Suggests All Muslims Are Like ISIS, Says Problem Should Be Solved “With A Bullet To The Head”

A Saudi Prince, who is Muslim, owns part of Fox “news”.

468 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:32:15pm

re: #463 Pie-onist Overlord

LOL crazy wingnut thinks Alex Jones is a “false flag”

[Embedded content]

We’ve come full circle heh.

469 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 20, 2014 12:33:16pm

Way to be a racist shitstain in addition to being a fucking tool==>

470 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:33:33pm

re:
#464

Apparently God couldn’t stop the voter fraud. //

471 Dr. Matt  Aug 20, 2014 12:33:37pm

re: #465 Kragar

so ferguson cops are now leaking to right wing blogs + fox news…
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) August 20, 2014

But, remember, it’s President Obama who is stoking the flames.

472 Ace-o-aces  Aug 20, 2014 12:33:43pm

re: #468 HappyWarrior

We’ve come full circle heh.

It’s a mobious strip of derp!

473 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:33:58pm

re: #469 Pie-onist Overlord

Way to be a racist shitstain in addition to being a fucking tool==>

[Embedded content]

It’s what he does. Sad little man.

474 De Kolta Chair  Aug 20, 2014 12:34:13pm

re: #347 Lidane

“It’s like we’re reliving the 1960s with Barack Obama,” he said.

Wayne Allyn Root: Barack Obama ‘Brought Back’ Racism To America

Racism only occurred during the 1960’s? As Johnny Carson used to say, I did not know that.

475 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2014 12:34:21pm

re: #472 Ace-o-aces

It’s a mobious strip of derp!

They certainly do seem to be one-dimensional and prone to repeating themselves.

476 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:34:52pm

re:
#469

Ben’s trying to claim the top ranking on the Worst People in the World list.

477 ObserverArt  Aug 20, 2014 12:35:28pm

re: #388 lawhawk

The FPD has shown a stunning lack of professionalism throughout the entire chain of events in the Brown shooting through the protests. The loss of critical evidence in a shooting that occurred during the protests is yet more proof of the problems with this department and their policies and procedures. It’s inexcusable.

lawhawk…sorry, but the word professionalism shouldn’t even be in the same sentence with the FPD even if correctly used.

This is the largest cop bullshit cover your ass story I think I’ve ever heard. Freaking Andy Griffin in Mayberry was more on the ball. Yes, even Barney Fife would show these clowns up. And that was a fictitious police show on TeeVee. Yet somehow more real.

478 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:36:28pm

re:
#474

So according to Root the 1960’s were bad? Passing the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act?

479 Kragar  Aug 20, 2014 12:36:55pm
480 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:38:50pm

re: #478 Bulworth

re:
#474

So according to Root the 1960’s were bad? Passing the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act?

Do remember that LBJ is many of their most despised president.

481 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 12:39:28pm

re: #479 Kragar

Working to deny Brown, his family, his community, and the African American community at large their civil rights.

482 HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2014 12:39:47pm

re: #481 lawhawk

Working to deny Brown, his family, his community, and the African American community at large their civil rights.

Sad but true.

483 jaunte  Aug 20, 2014 12:40:13pm
484 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:40:15pm

re:
#479

Still claiming Obama is wiping his as$ with it and violating their Constitutional raghts. //

485 b.d.  Aug 20, 2014 12:44:06pm

DEMS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!

486 De Kolta Chair  Aug 20, 2014 12:44:17pm

re: #483 jaunte

Jason Kirell @jaykirell

@owillis when I got a concussion in Afghanistan I stumbled around for a solid two minutes like I was drunk. I couldn’t aim, let alone shoot

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That must’ve put a real damper on his day. ////

487 wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2014 12:47:16pm
488 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 12:47:22pm

I have to hand it to the Right Wing. I’ve never seen a more coordinated and thorough job of obfuscation and character assassination in my life. And they managed to do it right under the eyes of the media, even bringing them in as willing partners.

Hiring that PR firm was pure brilliance, and I’m sure the behind the scenes work by Heritage was equally masterful.

Congrats, wingers. I think you’ve just won the Senate.

489 dog philosopher  Aug 20, 2014 12:53:26pm

re: #478 Bulworth

re:
#474

So according to Root the 1960’s were bad? Passing the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act?

i read an online article where the commenters were “blaming” woodrow wilson for the popular election of senators

not only were they against this heinous degradation of the sacred rights of state legislators, but they they had wilson retroactively promoting an amendment that was pushed by republican senators and passed before he was even nominated

490 De Kolta Chair  Aug 20, 2014 12:55:33pm

Any minute now, Hoft will be tweeting about how malicious Blacks are beating up innocent white Communists in Ferguson.

491 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 12:56:46pm

AP runs story about Wilson’s family background, much of which is irrelevant to Wilson’s actions on the day he shot and killed Brown. That his parents divorced when he was young, that his mother had multiple arrests and a lengthy criminal record of her own are, what’s the word I’m looking for, oh yes, here it is: IRRELEVANT.

Online court records show that Wilson’s mother — Tonya Durso, also known as Tonya Harris — pleaded guilty in 2001 to a dozen felony stealing and forgery counts in Missouri’s St. Charles County just west of St. Louis and was sentenced to five years on probation, with the judge suspending a five-year prison sentence. Durso was 35 when she died in 2002, and Wilson was placed under the guardianship of Tyler Harris until a St. Charles County judge dissolved that in mid-2004.

Wilson, who has Missouri hunting and fishing licenses, did not answer the AP’s knock Tuesday on his door at his brick, ranch-style home in Missouri’s Crestwood, a largely white St. Louis suburb some 18 miles southwest of Ferguson.

Yet another example of the media sucking. Just because there’s a piece of information about Wilson’s family out there doesn’t mean that it’s relevant to what happened. That he had firearms licenses is irrelevant. That his parents got divorced is irrelevant and so too is the fact that his mother passed away and he was placed in guardianship in 2002 is also irrelevant.

It all adds up to an attempt to make Wilson a more sympathetic figure, and has nothing to do with his killing Brown.

492 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 12:57:11pm

For the sake of perspective:

Iceland grieves after police kill a man for the first time in its history

Wonder if he paid for those cigarillos…

493 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:57:59pm

re:
#489

Yes popularly electing US Senators was the end of Freedom.//

494 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 20, 2014 12:58:02pm

re: #392 Bear

Wasn’t there some movies made long ago about the PD? Keystone Cops.
//

that was slapstick, not malicious intent

495 Bubblehead II  Aug 20, 2014 12:58:29pm

More derping by bryan.

496 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:58:47pm

re:
#492

America doesn’t give a sh$t because we’re pro-life. //

497 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 12:59:36pm

re:
#495

Does Bryan know how Michael Brown faired in all this?

///

498 Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2014 1:01:55pm

re: #479 Kragar

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Come on, Steve, they do care about your rights under the Constitution. All 3/5ths of you.

499 lawhawk  Aug 20, 2014 1:02:09pm

Youtube Video

500 ausador  Aug 20, 2014 1:06:36pm

re: #490 De Kolta Chair

Any minute now, Hoft will be tweeting about how malicious Blacks are beating up innocent white Communists in Ferguson.

Someone send him that vine of Antonio French pushing the RCP guy down and tell him it “shows Antonio French a black alderman and community leader assaulting an innocent white protestor.”

He just might go for it and god knows what he would come up with to embellish the story. That would be friggin hilarious, besides Charles could then do a post on how Jim Hoft defends Revolutionary Communist agitators, lmao!

501 Gus  Aug 20, 2014 1:07:01pm

O.O

502 Kid A  Aug 20, 2014 1:10:41pm

Insanity now running with orbital fracture story.

503 Bulworth  Aug 20, 2014 1:12:43pm

re:
#499

They sound nice…

504 BlueSpotinAL  Aug 20, 2014 1:17:12pm

re: #315 Pie-onist Overlord

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Not to mention the superpower of invisibility.

505 Dave In Austin  Aug 20, 2014 1:21:23pm

re: #487 wrenchwench

It’s just sweat…….

506 abolitionist  Aug 20, 2014 2:09:22pm

re: #240 jaunte

re: #256 Charles Johnson

Ah, OK - hadn’t seen that. However - if true, this debunks Hoft’s story about the “blowout fracture” if he was treated and released for “swelling” and nothing more.

Reuters quoted the police on it, Wednesday:

Noticed something odd from the Reuters quote, jaunte #240:
[snip] one of the few details released about events surrounding the Saturday night shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

Thot it was about noon, Ferguson, MO local time. Maybe Reuters routinely goes by GMT?

507 jonhendry  Aug 20, 2014 9:30:02pm

re: #39 Ryan King

If I see another ice bucket challenge I’m going to throw my Big Gulp full of white zin at a motherfucker.

Won’t someone name Sophia Vergara? Please?


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