CNN Reports #Ferguson PD Officer Darren Wilson DID NOT Have a Fractured Eye Socket

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For the past couple of days, I’ve been pointing out the numerous problems in Jim Hoft’s anonymously sourced claim that Ferguson PD officer Darren Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in a purported struggle with teenager Michael Brown, and now CNN is reporting that sources close to the investigation have told them this story is completely false:

Jim Hoft’s claims made it all the way to Fox News, I should note. Will this finally wake people up to the fact that Hoft is a serial liar?

UPDATE at 8/21/14 1:52:52 pm by Charles Johnson

Here’s the video clip of the announcement on CNN:

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UPDATE at 8/21/14 1:56:22 pm by Charles Johnson

As I pointed out in this article, Jim Hoft wrote that his source for the claim about the fractured eye socket was the St. Louis County Prosecutor’s office. I’ve emailed the prosecutor’s office asking them for comment on Hoft’s claim, and will post if I receive a reply.

Related
Jim Hoft’s Unsourced Claim That Officer Darren Wilson Had an “Orbital Blowout Fracture of the Eye Socket” If Darren Wilson Was “Savagely Beaten,” Why Did Neighbors See Him Mowing His Lawn Just a Few Days Later? Ann Coulter Takes Jim Hoft’s Misleading Bait, Says “We Saw X-Ray of Wilson’s Fractured Eye Socket”

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1 Bubblehead II  Aug 21, 2014 1:08:53pm

Jim Hoft’s claims made it all the way to Fox News, I should note. Will this finally wake people up to the fact that Hoft is a serial liar?

Not a chance.

2 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 1:09:13pm

“But we saw the X-rays!” coming soon from a conservative near you.

3 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 1:10:00pm

Hoft’s next order of business will be to bitch about DOJ.

4 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 1:10:09pm

If this story is true, Dipshit Dim should be arrested.

5 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 1:10:34pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

He switched right over to complaining about Obama and golf.

6 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 1:12:01pm

re: #5 jaunte

He switched right over to complaining about Obama and golf.

I guess he forgot “Now watch this drive.”

7 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 1:12:17pm
8 CarolJ  Aug 21, 2014 1:12:20pm

re: #2 Kragar

Tell that conservative that it’s no way his X-Rays. For one, if he was that injured, he would be undergoing treatment, and any physician/hospital that releases that info would be sued and charged under HIPPA. And anybody who aids in this would also be liable for lawsuits as well for violation of privacy.

9 KerFuFFler  Aug 21, 2014 1:12:34pm

Eat that, Coulter!

10 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 1:12:59pm
11 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 1:14:03pm

re: #10 jaunte

Supports my Officer Wilson doored himself getting out of his SUV theory

13 Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2014 1:15:26pm

re: #11 Kragar

Supports my Officer Wilson doored himself getting out of his SUV theory

That’s the only theory that fits the facts. Wilson probably brained himself on the door, got pissed and decided he was going to take it out on Brown, and things escalated from there.

14 KerFuFFler  Aug 21, 2014 1:15:27pm

re: #12 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Damn!

15 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 1:15:42pm

I just saw a tweet that said something to the effect of: “doesn’t matter. He had a swollen face. That’s all I need to know.”

Cause a cop swelling = capital offense.

(Not that we even have confirmation that Brown caused the swelling.)

16 klys  Aug 21, 2014 1:16:05pm

I leave this here primarily for FNB but others might enjoy it too.

17 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 1:17:54pm

re: #15 Minor_L

I just saw a tweet that said something to the effect of: “doesn’t matter. He had a swollen face. That’s all I need to know.”

Cause a cop swelling = capital offense.

(Not that we even have confirmation that Brown caused the swelling.)

Well that and we don’t even know how he got the swelling. But yeah if you think a swelling gives a cop the right to fire on you……..then I don’t want you complaining at all about “big government” because you’re accepting excessive force.

18 Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2014 1:18:12pm

Of course, now will begin the attempts to argue that Brown could have beaten Wilson’s face enough to cause swelling without signs of such on his hands. I don’t buy it for a second, but you know it’s coming.

19 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 1:18:59pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Of course, now will begin the attempts to argue that Brown could have beaten Wilson’s face enough to caught swelling without signs of such on his hands. I don’t buy it for a second, but you know it’s coming.

Of course, it’s coming. Just a matter of who and what whacked out shit will be said next.

20 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:19:33pm

Problem: CNN citing an un-named source is not qualitatively more impressive than Fox citing a leprechaun. They are ahead on points, though.

21 Jack Burton  Aug 21, 2014 1:19:47pm

re: #16 klys

The oak trees are fucking, and I keep getting caught in their spooge.

Dr Gonzo says: Don’t tell me these things. Not now man.

22 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 1:19:50pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Of course, now will begin the attempts to argue that Brown could have beaten Wilson’s face enough to cause swelling without signs of such on his hands. I don’t buy it for a second, but you know it’s coming.

Mike Brown beat Wilson… WITH HIS MIND!

23 aagcobb  Aug 21, 2014 1:20:00pm

re: #9 KerFuFFler

Eat that, Coulter!

She doesn’t care. On the Right its now an established fact that Wilson suffered an eye fracture; mere evidence will never change that.

24 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 1:20:07pm

No spoilers since I’m still an episode behind but I’ve been watching Masters of Sex which coincidentally enough takes place in St. Louis. They’ve been tackling race a little as an issue. Great show by the way if you have not seen it. Michael Sheen, Lizzy Kaplan, and the cast are fantastic.

25 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 1:20:57pm

re: #22 Kragar

Brown was a mutant and used telekinesis to pummel Wilson. /it’s the only fact pattern that makes sense.

26 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 1:20:59pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

Problem: CNN citing an un-named source is not qualitatively more impressive than Fox citing a leprechaun. They are ahead on points, though.

Actually, I disagree. CNN citing an unnamed source is VASTLY more credible than Jim Hoft citing an unnamed source.

27 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 1:21:28pm

re: #9 KerFuFFler

Eat that, Coulter!

Coulter’s success doesn’t require her to be accurate. She only needs to be vicious.

28 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 1:21:59pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Actually, I disagree. CNN citing an unnamed source is VASTLY more credible than Jim Hoft citing an unnamed source.

Not to mention that it is consistent with and does NOT contradict the physical evidence.

29 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 1:22:56pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Actually, I disagree. CNN citing an unnamed source is VASTLY more credible than Jim Hoft citing an unnamed source.

CNN has credible journalists citing an anonymous source.
Dim Jim has an anonymous source and then creates fake evidence to back it up

Big difference

30 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:23:21pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Actually, I disagree. CNN citing an unnamed source is VASTLY more credible than Jim Hoft citing an unnamed source.

Talking Fox v. CNN. Hoft citing the recipe for a peanut butter sandwich would come out wrong.

31 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 1:23:30pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Brown was a mutant and used telekinesis to pummel Wilson. /it’s the only fact pattern that makes sense.

So that’s what an MMA super-punch really is. //

32 aagcobb  Aug 21, 2014 1:23:56pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

No spoilers since I’m still an episode behind but I’ve been watching Masters of Sex which coincidentally enough takes place in St. Louis. They’ve been tackling race a little as an issue. Great show by the way if you have not seen it. Michael Sheen, Lizzy Kaplan, and the cast are fantastic.

I’m busy watching all the HBO stuff I never watched before on Amazon Prime. I’ll get around to it in a few years. I’m also watching Manhattan; I just find the atomic bomb project fascinating and I’ve watched or read just about everything I can find on it.

33 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 1:23:58pm

re: #29 Kragar

CNN has credible journalists citing an anonymous source.
Dim Jim has an anonymous source and then creates fake evidence to back it up

Big difference

Dum Jim is an anonymous source.

34 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 1:24:26pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Actually, I disagree. CNN citing an unnamed source is VASTLY more credible than Jim Hoft citing an unnamed source.

We’re going to have to start looking at this case as if it was a John le Carré novel in the George Smiley series. Nothing is ever as it seems, and background players are pulling all the strings for their own tactical reasons.

35 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 1:24:43pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

I don’t buy it for a second, but you know it’s coming.

The RWNJs are trying to argue that Michael Brown was high on weed, or PCP or angel dust or bath salts or whatever because black thug, and of course Wilson was justified in killing him for the public good.

Doesn’t matter that none of the facts support their idiocy. They’ve got a theory and they’re going to stick to it.

36 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 1:24:49pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Talking Fox v. CNN. Hoft citing the recipe for a peanut butter sandwich would come out wrong.

Even for Fox vs. CNN, CNN is basically incompetent and Fox is basically evil, so a differing level of suspicion attached to their output seems reasonable.

37 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 1:24:50pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

Jim Hoft’s claims made it all the way to Fox News, I should note. Will this finally wake people up to the fact that Hoft is a serial liar?

Not a chance.

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a correction from Fox.

Anything the liburl media says is bull pucky. Only conservative media sez the troof!

38 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 1:25:13pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Fox’s source is Jim Hoft.

39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 1:26:06pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Of course, now will begin the attempts to argue that Brown could have beaten Wilson’s face enough to cause swelling without signs of such on his hands. I don’t buy it for a second, but you know it’s coming.

I eagerly await some dumbass to get a friend who he can punch in the face to try and re-create what they are trying to say Brown did to Wilson.

40 Ace-o-aces  Aug 21, 2014 1:26:09pm

re: #2 Kragar

“But we saw the X-rays!” coming soon from a conservative near you.

IZ ALL COVERUP BY OBAMA SECRET UNARMED NEGRO ARMY!!!!!!

41 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:26:20pm

re: #36 EPR-radar

Even for Fox vs. CNN, CNN is basically incompetent and Fox is basically evil, so a differing level of suspicion attached to their output seems reasonable.

Yeah. I gave CNN points, just based on their history and the lack of airliners.

42 Amory Blaine  Aug 21, 2014 1:26:27pm

It would go all the way up to Congress if they weren’t on vacation. You could see Dim Jim’s x-ray on Ted Cruz’s easel on c-span.

43 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 1:26:48pm

Already going back to the fallback - treated for facial swelling

But without a pathology report, no way to know how that happened.

It almost certainly wasn’t the result of Brown punching Wilson, because the Baden autopsy found no evidence of a struggle.

44 Ace-o-aces  Aug 21, 2014 1:26:55pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Fox’s source is Jim Hoft.

Jim’s source is probably the voices in his head.

45 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:27:41pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Fox’s source is Jim Hoft.

Almost certainly, but I’d rather someone came out and put his name behind his statement, even when I like the statement.

46 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 1:28:05pm

Even Sooper Mexican wasn’t buying it.

47 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 1:28:10pm

re: #42 Amory Blaine

It would go all the way up to Congress if they weren’t on vacation. You could see Dim Jim’s x-ray on Ted Cruz’s easel on c-span.

Is it terribly wrong for me to wish for House Republicans to do a clown show reenactment of their version of events and forget to take the bullets out of the gun?

48 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 1:28:35pm

re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I eagerly await some dumbass to get a friend who he can punch in the face to try and re-create what they are trying to say Brown did to Wilson.

Crap, they can’t even reconstruct the shooting scene into a scenario that would allow a “bull rush” that would fit the bullet holes.

49 klys  Aug 21, 2014 1:28:38pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Already going back to the fallback - treated for facial swelling

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But without a pathology report, no way to know how that happened.

It almost certainly wasn’t the result of Brown punching Wilson, because the Baden autopsy found no evidence of a struggle.

In the press conference where Chief Jackson said that the officer’s face was swollen, he didn’t even know which side of the face. Apparently the swelling was not memorable enough to make an impression on the chief.

I know, because I watched the press conference and paid attention.

50 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 1:28:41pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Yeah. I gave CNN points, just based on their history and the lack of airliners.

Still, it’s possible that the same source that leaked to DimJim could be the one leaking to CNN.

Why?

To make them look like shit if the DimJim version is true.

I wouldn’t trust my brother as a source in this case if he was associated with the Ferguson PD/DA.

51 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 1:29:15pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Fox’s source is Jim Hoft.

Yup as you basically documented from the start of this bullshit up to it showing up on FOX. You really should be a paid debunker. Maybe even your own TV show ala Myth Busters, call it Meme Busters or something.

52 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 1:29:42pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Already going back to the fallback - treated for facial swelling

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But without a pathology report, no way to know how that happened.

It almost certainly wasn’t the result of Brown punching Wilson, because the Baden autopsy found no evidence of a struggle.

He’s also missing the Baden autopsy report.

53 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 1:29:54pm

So this is an epic fail from the right. Watch as they soon turn attention to this, regarding Bergdahl. INPEACH!!!

cnn.com

54 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 1:30:08pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

We’re going to have to start looking at this case as if it was a John le Carré novel in the George Smiley series. Nothing is ever as it seems, and background players are pulling all the strings for their own tactical reasons.

And, apropos of nothing, remember Anderson Cooper was the first host on “The Mole.”

55 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 1:30:17pm

re: #46 Gus

Even Sooper Mexican wasn’t buying it.

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Dammit, now I have to wash my laptop.

56 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 1:30:22pm

re: #43 lawhawk

That’s one of the many reasons people weren’t buying the “blowout orbital fracture” thing — because the police had mentioned swelling earlier, but never said anything about a fracture.

I assume he means that the media was trying to cover it up. Right.

57 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 1:30:47pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Dammit, now I have to wash my laptop.

When you’ve lost Sooper Mexican…

58 klys  Aug 21, 2014 1:31:38pm

re: #49 klys

In the press conference where Chief Jackson said that the officer’s face was swollen, he didn’t even know which side of the face. Apparently the swelling was not memorable enough to make an impression on the chief.

I know, because I watched the press conference and paid attention.

Noted here, at the time.

59 Kilroy01  Aug 21, 2014 1:31:47pm

Started in the previous thread

wanted to add this officer has been in the news concerning the VA.
ksdk.com

“I got injured over the course of both deployments. I was injured by three IED’s in 2006 and two in 2007,” Weston said.

Now he serves as a police officer. When his vision didn’t seem right, he called to get a base line eye exam at the VA. They told him it would take 7 months.

“The VA employee I spoke with told me it wasn’t her problem, it wasn’t her fault and there were too many people requesting eye exams,” Weston explained.

I really have to wonder if guys just coming back from oversea rotation are really up to be police.

60 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 1:32:15pm

re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus

So this is an epic fail from the right. Watch as they soon turn attention to this, regarding Bergdahl. INPEACH!!!

cnn.com

What do you mean FAIL? Jim had the actual x-rays of Wilson’s head, and Dana Loesch and Ann Coulter back him up.

You can’t dispute that!

61 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 1:32:16pm

All this back and forth would have been settled days ago, and before days of riots, had the Ferguson PD and St. Louis County PD published the report of the encounter.

Instead, we get nitwits like Hoft poison the conversation with bogus claims about orbital blowout fractures, leaks from the prosecutor’s office (claiming that Wilson was knocked nearly unconscious by Brown), etc., and yet the official statements from the FPD undermine all the leaks.

The best way to deal with these kinds of incidents is to provide open and prompt information. Withholding it only causes more problems - for prosecutors, investigators, and can potentially undermine any prosecutions that might come from cases like this. Maybe that’s what some law enforcement officers want since they want the latitude to be the final word on what happens on a stop, but that’s not justice. That’s a perversion of justice.

62 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:32:20pm

re: #44 Ace-o-aces

Jim’s source is probably the voices in his head.

I’m actually wondering if he didn’t rip it from Dana Loesch—“Radio Personality”. SMOTI lacks the creativity.

63 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 1:32:37pm

re: #43 lawhawk

And just because he missed it doesn’t mean everyone else did. It’s been mentioned here several times—with quotes from the police chief. Maybe Allahpundit (Gateway’s twin brother from another mother) should pay better attention.

64 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 1:33:33pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Withholding it only causes more problems - for prosecutors, investigators, and can potentially undermine any prosecutions that might come from cases like this. Maybe that’s what some law enforcement officers want since they want the latitude to be the final word on what happens on a stop, but that’s not justice. That’s a perversion of justice.

So, “mission accomplished” for the fine police and prosecutors in St. Louis, then…

65 Frenchy  Aug 21, 2014 1:35:50pm

I’m sure that Hoft’s retraction will be forthcoming shortly. But regardless, let’s not lose sight of the fact that Brown charged Wilson “like a bull” so actually that makes his killing ok and in fact good.

66 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 1:36:02pm

re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus

So this is an epic fail from the right. Watch as they soon turn attention to this, regarding Bergdahl. INPEACH!!!

cnn.com

That shit would have leaked the first night and Bergdahl would still be over there (or dead).

Susan Poling, the general counsel for the U.S. Government Accountability Office, wrote in a letter to several Republicans in Congress that the Pentagon should have notified “the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer.”

67 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 1:36:29pm

“Darren Wilson was treated for a swollen face and given a prescription of diuretics and ordered to lay of booze and food with high sodium content.”

//

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 1:36:48pm

Ryan Schuessler writes:

I had been on the ground helping Al Jazeera America cover the protests and unrest in Ferguson, Mo., since this all started last week. After what I saw last night, I will not be returning. The behavior and number of journalists there is so appalling, that I cannot in good conscience continue to be a part of the spectacle.

Things I’ve seen:

more at I will not be returning to Ferguson

69 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 1:37:05pm

re: #66 ausador

That shit would have leaked the first night and Bergdahl would still be over there (or dead).

Bingo.

70 Bulworth  Aug 21, 2014 1:37:15pm

re:
#66

LAWLESSNESS!!!1 Impeach!!!111

71 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 1:37:35pm

re: #59 Kilroy01

Usually that would be called agitprop, no (140 characters of literature)?

72 klys  Aug 21, 2014 1:37:36pm

Today’s update from Iceland (I may have chosen this one for the delightful pun):

73 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 1:38:36pm

‘Support Officer Darren Wilson’ GoFundMe Raises Over $137,000 For Cop Who Shot Michael Brown

huffingtonpost.com

74 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:39:12pm

re: #65 Frenchy

I’m sure that Hoft’s retraction will be forthcoming shortly. But regardless, let’s not lose sight of the fact that Brown charged Wilson “like a bull” so actually that makes his killing ok and in fact good.

Will Wilson be awarded the ears?

75 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 1:41:40pm

re: #66 ausador

That shit would have leaked the first night and Bergdahl would still be over there (or dead).

Of course. It is inconceivable to trust GOPers in Congress with any national security information whose compromise could be regarded as being politically beneficial to Republicans.

What little love they have for the US is greatly exceeded by their hate for a Democratic and black POTUS.

76 aagcobb  Aug 21, 2014 1:41:47pm

re: #65 Frenchy

I’m sure that Hoft’s retraction will be forthcoming shortly. But regardless, let’s not lose sight of the fact that Brown charged Wilson “like a bull” so actually that makes his killing ok and in fact good.

The cops mentality in Missouri was illustrated by the horrifying video from St. L. The guy was shuffling around and he had a steak knife, and as soon as he shuffled toward the cops they pumped bullets into him to make sure he was dead. Seems like it ought to be handled differently.

77 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 1:42:05pm

I keep hearing that Wilson would not have written a report, instead asserting his 5th amendment right to silence. This is an interesting article on this issue: policechiefmagazine.org

Also, this would not have stopped the PD from doing an independent investigation and completing a report, yet they seem to not have done that.

78 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 1:42:37pm

Why I don’t trust CNN any more than I trust DimJim.

CNN Removes Ridiculous Report Claiming Ferguson Captain Is In A Gang

huffingtonpost.com

79 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 1:42:53pm

So folks thank you for joining our program already in progress, if your just tuning in you missed an exciting and eventful first round. But stay tuned because we will be right back for round two of the Battle of the Unnamed Sources right after these commercial messages…

:(

80 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:44:01pm

re: #77 Minor_L

I keep hearing that Wilson would not have written a report, instead asserting his 5th amendment right to silence. This is an interesting article on this issue: policechiefmagazine.org

Also, this would not have stopped the PD from doing an independent investigation and completing a report, yet they seem to not have done that.

Sounds like the FPD is run along the lines of a Kiwanis softball team.

81 Kilroy01  Aug 21, 2014 1:44:02pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ryan Schuessler writes:

more at I will not be returning to Ferguson

Sorry to say but his depth of experience is a bit light. He graduated in May of this year.
ryanschuessler.com
Though he is “award winning”
2012 Religion Newswriters Association Chandler Award Finalist - Top 5

82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 1:44:12pm

re: #76 aagcobb

The cops mentality in Missouri was illustrated by the horrifying video from St. L. The guy was shuffling around and he had a steak knife, and as once as he shuffled toward the cops they pumped bullets into him to make sure he was dead. Seems like it ought to be handled differently.

yeah I haven’t watched the video from the other shooting, but from what I have heard it sounds like there was no reason to use deadly force in that situation either and that the PD involved is playing CYA.

83 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 1:45:10pm
84 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 1:45:28pm

Wayne Allyn Root, writing at The Blaze,
Aug. 21, 2014 2:00pm

Fact: The use of force is justified if you believe your life is in danger or you are facing a person intent on doing you bodily harm.

Brown was a monster of a man, 6 feet 4 inches, 290 pounds. What would you do if a giant thug came charging at you in an attempt to run you over, knock you down and take your gun? Wouldn’t you believe your life was in danger if the man charging you had already punched you in the face and, as x-rays now prove, and broken your eye socket?

Fact: There are now a dozen witnesses who corroborate Officer Darren Wilson’s account of the story.

Timing is everything.

85 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 1:45:45pm

re: #77 Minor_L

I keep hearing that Wilson would not have written a report, instead asserting his 5th amendment right to silence. This is an interesting article on this issue: policechiefmagazine.org

Also, this would not have stopped the PD from doing an independent investigation and completing a report, yet they seem to not have done that.

We don’t know if there is a report or not, they simply said that if one existed they didn’t have to turn it over due to exemptions for certain types of documents in the FOIA.

86 bubba zanetti  Aug 21, 2014 1:46:12pm
87 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:46:40pm

re: #84 jaunte

Wayne Allyn Root, writing at The Blaze,
Aug. 21, 2014 2:00pm

Timing is everything.

Stowing away on the Titanic.

88 klys  Aug 21, 2014 1:47:06pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

Why I don’t trust CNN any more that I trust DimJim.

CNN Removes Ridiculous Report Claiming Ferguson Captain Is In A Gang

huffingtonpost.com

To be accurate, CNN removed that from the iReport section, which is where users can upload anything.

Anything in the iReport section should be taken as questionable until verified, which CNN does actually do before running items from there on air. (They’ll also mark the report as verified by a CNN producer once that has happened.)

I think the iReport section is shit, but CNN isn’t just running anything from there without verification, and did the proper thing once the report was brought to their attention.

89 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 1:47:07pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

X-RAYS NOW PROVE!!!

90 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 1:47:12pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ryan Schuessler writes:

more at I will not be returning to Ferguson

This one below was MSNBC:

-Another major TV network renting out a gated parking lot for their one camera, not letting people in. Safely reporting the news on the other side of a tall fence.

I’m not sure I blame them for this move, I saw the crowd toss rocks at Chris Hayes and Craig Melvin. People were pissed off and the police weren’t exactly exempting journalists either. MSNBC choosing to protect their staff was smart and totally justifiable.

91 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 1:48:53pm

re: #85 ausador

I looked at the MO public records statute. It states that reports from ongoing investigations are not open to the public. I wonder if they’ll release it after any investigation has been concluded.

92 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:50:45pm

I’m loving the reported timing of the grand jury wrap-up, sometime in Oct per the DA. Should make for an exciting end to the election season.

93 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 1:50:49pm

I found the actual x-ray of Officer Wilson:

94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 1:51:09pm

This is what drought looks like.

One of my favorite fishing holes, Irvine Lake, looks a lot like the ones in the pictures. Back in 2010 (or around there) the lake was so full there was no real shoreline to fish, water even went over the dam due to heavy rains.

We used to fish this one area, in a part of the lake called “The Flats” where the water had mostly submerged a lot of scrub and trees (made for awesome catfishing) and there’s a spot called “Trout Island” that we used to drive our boats OVER.

Now all that water is gone. Granted it’s a private lake, they buy and sell water but won’t be buying any for the foreseeable future and are basically counting on rain to fill the lake back up. You can literally see where the waterline was and it looks just like those pics.

95 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 1:51:12pm

re: #91 Minor_L

I looked at the MO public records statute. It states that reports from ongoing investigations are not open to the public. I wonder if they’ll release it after any investigation has been concluded.

This assumes they’re going to investigate anything.

Ferguson PD has made it clear they’re going to help their buddy skate by on murder. There won’t be a real investigation at all, especially if the source of the ZOMG BROKEN EYEBALL malarkey was the prosecutor’s office.

96 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 1:53:43pm

Video from CNN:

Youtube Video

97 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 1:56:39pm

re: #76 aagcobb

The cops mentality in Missouri was illustrated by the horrifying video from St. L. The guy was shuffling around and he had a steak knife, and as soon as he shuffled toward the cops they pumped bullets into him to make sure he was dead. Seems like it ought to be handled differently.

I keep saying it’s almost as if cops in Missouri have never heard the term ‘non-lethal force.’

Someone should call them and tell them about that cool new invention, the Taser.
/

98 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 1:56:41pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Video from CNN:

[Embedded content]

Oh shit, Nancy Grace. Wilson is missing, is he a pretty white girl?

99 Ace-o-aces  Aug 21, 2014 1:56:55pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

So that’s an MMA SUPERPUNCH!

100 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 1:58:56pm

Oh, FFS. This has gotten ridiculous. Might as well just pick a daisy and start pulling the petals off one-by-one: “He had a fracture, he didn’t have a fracture, he had a fracture, he didn’t have a fracture…”

Law enforcement & the media have been beyond useless in this case.

101 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 1:59:12pm
102 Dr. Matt  Aug 21, 2014 2:01:08pm

We really need to make #smoti happen.

103 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:01:55pm

If anyone is interested Ed is taking this very story to task, The opening segment was great!

104 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 2:02:58pm

re: #102 Dr. Matt

We really need to make #smoti happen.

First encountered it in a Wonkette article, one that h/t’d LGF, I think. SMOTI is more pronounceable than our DMOTI.

105 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 2:03:15pm

re: #76 aagcobb

The cops mentality in Missouri was illustrated by the horrifying video from St. L. The guy was shuffling around and he had a steak knife, and as soon as he shuffled toward the cops they pumped bullets into him to make sure he was dead. Seems like it ought to be handled differently.

It was > < close to death porn. I was so affected by it, it not only drove me to tears but put me into a pretty good bout of depression.

The guy who was filming it was laughing at the start, because the guy who was killed was behaving in a really whacky way. Then the cops came and within seconds of their arrival shot this very obviously mentally disturbed guy 12 times from a good 6 feet away. I mean, really, there was nothing else that could have been done? Then, they handcuffed his freaking corpse.

The guy filming it was appalled.

So was I.

106 Bulworth  Aug 21, 2014 2:03:56pm

re:
#84

Brown was a monster of a man.

So if the cop or cops (did he have a partner with him?) can’t handle themselves on the street, what are they doing being cops? Hey I’m just asking questions.

Also, yeah, he’s accepted Hoft’s “file photo” xray pic as being that of Wilson’s. He’ll correct that I’m sure. ////

107 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 2:04:01pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Video from CNN:

[Embedded content]

Video

I’d nearly forgotten just how annoying Nancy Grace is.

108 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 21, 2014 2:04:29pm

re: #94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This is what drought looks like.

One of my favorite fishing holes, Irvine Lake, looks a lot like the ones in the pictures. Back in 2010 (or around there) the lake was so full there was no real shoreline to fish, water even went over the dam due to heavy rains.

We used to fish this one area, in a part of the lake called “The Flats” where the water had mostly submerged a lot of scrub and trees (made for awesome catfishing) and there’s a spot called “Trout Island” that we used to drive our boats OVER.

Now all that water is gone. Granted it’s a private lake, they buy and sell water but won’t be buying any for the foreseeable future and are basically counting on rain to fill the lake back up. You can literally see where the waterline was and it looks just like those pics.

‘

Irvine Lake. I grew up in the OC. (Now in Brooklyn). Took my son there to go fishing, didn’t catch a thing, but had a great time.

109 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:05:19pm

It does not appear Ed has heard the CNN report. He is ripping on it like everyone else here has. It will be fun if/when he hears that report.

110 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 2:06:32pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

It does not appear Ed has heard the CNN report. He is ripping on it like everyone else here has. It will be fun if/when he hears that report.

Who Ed?

111 Ace-o-aces  Aug 21, 2014 2:07:11pm
112 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 2:07:13pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Who Ed?

Ed Schultz.

113 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:07:50pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

It does not appear Ed has heard the CNN report. He is ripping on it like everyone else here has. It will be fun if/when he hears that report.

And now he is reporting the CNN report.

This is getting good. It’s almost like LGF TV.

114 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:08:02pm

115 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 2:08:11pm

Confoimed! Fact!

116 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 2:08:18pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Actually, I disagree. CNN citing an unnamed source is VASTLY more credible than Jim Hoft citing an unnamed source.

i’d not argue the point. However’ I’m getting a divide by zero error on that one. Must be the search for the Malaysian airliner that did it for me RE CNN.

117 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:08:47pm

re: #112 makeitstop

Ed Schultz.

Yes. Sorry Decatur Deb, I thought most everyone here might catch that. I should have been clear.

118 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:10:13pm

This one seems legit:

119 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 21, 2014 2:10:33pm

re: #115 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Confoimed! Fact!

A hospital would never confirm this, unless they wanted to get sued.

120 klys  Aug 21, 2014 2:10:36pm

re: #116 Rightwingconspirator

i’d not argue the point. However’ I’m getting a divide by zero error on that one. Must be the search for the Malaysian airliner that did it for me RE CNN.

If it were Wolf Blitzer with an unnamed source, I’d agree.

121 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 2:10:40pm

re: #116 Rightwingconspirator

i’d not argue the point. However’ I’m getting a divide by zero error on that one. Must be the search for the Malaysian airliner that did it for me RE CNN.

If the Pope starts quoting an Un-named Apostle, he’s not getting much truck.

122 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 2:11:18pm

re: #119 Iwouldprefernotto

A hospital would never confirm this, unless they wanted to get sued.

HIs way of saying he read the word ‘hospital’ in a Reuters report.

123 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 2:11:29pm

Jim Hoft’s source revealed.

124 Kilroy01  Aug 21, 2014 2:11:37pm

Police: Free Military Gear ‘Should Not Unnerve A Law-Abiding Citizen’
talkingpointsmemo.com

..You don’t want a community to be taken over by one or many criminals,”

Think of all the communities that have been taken over before by one guy and required mine proof vehicle to subdue.

125 Bulworth  Aug 21, 2014 2:13:15pm

re:
#124

I’m sure the Bundy teabaggers are outraged by this statement. //

126 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 2:13:22pm
127 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 2:14:59pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

First encountered it in a Wonkette article, one that h/t’d LGF, I think. SMOTI is more pronounceable than our DMOTI.

Tell this neophyte what it means?

128 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 2:15:22pm

re: #124 Kilroy01

Police: Free Military Gear ‘Should Not Unnerve A Law-Abiding Citizen’
talkingpointsmemo.com

Think of all the communities that have been taken over before by one guy and required mine proof vehicle to subdue.

Assuming those receiving said military gear aren’t the criminals. From what we have been seeing in MO the past week+, I’m not so sure about that.

129 Bulworth  Aug 21, 2014 2:15:48pm

re:
#124

Wasn’t this a major RWNJ cause celebre not long ago when it was “reported” that DHS had bought up ALL the AMMO and Tanks to subdue the patriotic faithful?

130 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 2:15:56pm

re: #124 Kilroy01

Police: Free Military Gear ‘Should Not Unnerve A Law-Abiding Citizen’
talkingpointsmemo.com

Think of all the communities that have been taken over before by one guy and required mine proof vehicle to subdue.

Uh huh. So when a speeding MRAP comes flying up the freeway with the bomb squad convoy, I need not worry in my lil Smart car about getting hit by a 15 ton behemoth with four foot tall wheels.

Hey if LAPD/SFPD/County Sheriffs get all the war gear anyway, lets disband the California National Guard as redundant.
// kinda

131 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:16:12pm

Grrrr. Ed’s staff sucks. They are not showing the proper video of the two cops standing and talking just after the shooting. They have one up showing all the cops running around and placing the covering over the body which is after everyone comes to the scene.

Why is it that folks at this site do a better job quicker?

Our media fails us.

132 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 2:16:19pm

Now closing in on 10,000 Twitter followers…

133 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 2:16:52pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

Tell this neophyte what it means?

Stupidest Man on the Internet vs Dumbest Man on the Internet. It’s a meme that seems to have attached itself only to Jim Hoft.

134 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 2:16:54pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

The correct video is from CNN - that’s probably why they aren’t showing it.

135 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 2:17:03pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Stupidest Man on the Internet vs Dumbest Man on the Internet. It’s a meme that seems to have attached itself only to Jim Hoft.

oh hahahahahaha

136 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 2:17:10pm
137 Bulworth  Aug 21, 2014 2:19:08pm

re:
#134

[MSNBC]argle bargle argle bargle CNN argle bargle argle bargle[/MSNBC]

138 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:19:09pm

I’d almost feel sorry for Hoft at this point, if he wasn’t such a recidivist cock-neck.

140 Kilroy01  Aug 21, 2014 2:20:41pm

re: #130 Rightwingconspirator

Uh huh. So when a speeding MRAP comes flying up the freeway with the bomb squad convoy, I need not worry in my lil Smart car about getting hit by a 15 ton behemoth with four foot tall wheels.

Hey if LAPD/SFPD/County Sheriffs get all the war gear anyway, lets disband the California National Guard as redundant.
// kinda

Well if you are driving a smart car on the freeway.. I mean..
//

141 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 2:21:46pm

Jim Hoft saying that the source was from the district attorney’s office just went up in flames!

142 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 2:22:14pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

Grrrr. Ed’s staff sucks. They are not showing the proper video of the two cops standing and talking just after the shooting. They have one up showing all the cops running around and placing the covering over the body which is after everyone comes to the scene.

Why is it that folks at this site do a better job quicker?

Our media fails us.

I think it’s about pressure. Here the peer pressure is to smarten up. Get the best facts, ideas and work them over or kick them to the curb. At media outlets it’s about ratings and clicks which means dumb it down, and stay sensationalized.

143 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:22:21pm

In citing them as his source Hoft has effectively impugned the impartiality and credibility of McCullough’s office. Either he made the orbital fracture claim up out of whole cloth or members of the DA’s office were deliberately leaking misinformation in order to ratfuck their own case.

144 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 2:22:33pm

Steve King has an opinion, y’all:

Well, and that’s something, seems to be I’m constantly in the middle of all of that. But the reason that I do step up and say these things, Jan, is because I think first of all we’re a nation that is partially, at least our culture and civilization was built on a number of things but it was certainly built on reason and our ability to reason. And it emerged through our culture and civilization through the Greeks all across western Europe here to this continent. And if we had not developed a foundational civilization that’s rooted in our faith and in our work ethic, in our morality and in our ability to reason we couldn’t have ever developed science and technology, we couldn’t have had a rational basis to do the things that we do. And so if this society is going to reject reason, and move towards an irrational society — by the way, it’s irrational what’s happening down in Ferguson, Mo. It’s irrational. Even if their allegation is true, and the cop is innocent until proven guilty.

145 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:22:50pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

The correct video is from CNN - that’s probably why they aren’t showing it.

This video is owned by CNN?

You had it two threads back.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Youtube Video

This is the one one of Ed’s guests is talking about. I thought this was shot by the one woman that witnessed it all and stayed quiet while the cops had her phone. At this time, I can’t remember her name.

146 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 2:23:36pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

Either he made the orbital fracture claim up out of whole cloth or members of the DA’s office were deliberately leaking misinformation in order to ratfuck their own case.

Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

147 Bubblehead II  Aug 21, 2014 2:27:03pm
148 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:27:15pm

Antonio French is on The Ed Show and he is saying postponing the investigation and jury into October is going to be real problematic. He fears Ferguson is going to be blowing up the whole time.

Lots of calls for Governor Nixon’s butt too.

149 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 2:27:54pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

This video is owned by CNN?

You had it two threads back.

littlegreenfootballs.com

[Embedded content]

This is the one one of Ed’s guests is talking about. I thought this was shot by the one woman that witnessed it all and stayed quiet while the cops had her phone. At this time, I can’t remember her name.

Piaget.

150 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:29:57pm

re: #146 Lidane

Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

Except if the claim really did come from McCullough’s office it’s official corruption, the kind of thing that could hypothetically get him disbarred if it happened with his approval. Especially if he turned around and tried to submit Hoft’s claim to the grand jury where the rules against hearsay are usually nonexistent.

151 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 2:30:34pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Except if the claim really did come from McCullough’s office it’s official corruption, the kind of thing that could hypothetically get him disbarred if it happened with his approval. Especially if he turned around and tried to submit Hoft’s claim to the grand jury where the rules against hearsay are usually nonexistent.

So “Josie” could be entered as evidence?

152 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 2:33:41pm

I just saw this on Ed (I usually don’t watch but I like Antonio French):

Do you think the right wingers, such as Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity, are born pathological liars and truth benders, or do they choose to be?

153 Bulworth  Aug 21, 2014 2:35:33pm

re:
#151

Well, as Josie is supposedly speaking for Wilson, since Wilson isn’t speaking to the media, it would make sense for the GJ to hear from Wilson himself.

154 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 2:36:16pm
As I pointed out in this article, Jim Hoft wrote that his source for the claim about the fractured eye socket was the St. Louis County Prosecutor’s office. I’ve emailed the prosecutor’s office asking them for comment on Hoft’s claim, and will post if I receive a reply.

I wouldn’t hold my breath, Charles.

Evening Lizardim from the hot, humid, and rainy wild north country. Did the lines hold overnight in the war on derp?

155 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 2:37:20pm
156 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 2:39:33pm

re: #144 Lidane

Just to give him the benefit of the doubt the Greeks were the big civilizing influence before the rise of Rome. They also had colonies scattered all over the known world of the era. Much of what is today thought of as “Roman” was in fact directly copied by them from the Greeks.

Yes generally one thinks of the Romans when speaking in the terms he was using and not the Greeks. Either one is still valid though…

157 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:39:53pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

Piaget.

Yes. Thanks.

I tuned into Ed, as I had a feeling this was going to be covered. I figure all the MSNBC shows will touch on it throughout the evening.

It’s just fun watching all this go ‘round and ‘round. And of course, MSNBC will be the only fairly mainstream outlet to cover it. All the others seemed to have bought SlimJim* Hoft’s chum. Even ABC. So, they will slink back to the story eventually.

*Slim on facts, Real Slim.

158 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 2:41:20pm

If all the high profile police brutality isn’t enough to piss you off.

I Paged this article, but the link is direct. There is video of the news station KTLA’s report there.

If you can stand it, the unedited (as I understand it) version is here:

Youtube Video

A woman is walking, illegally while black, on the highway. Is this reason for a male police officer to repeated punch her while she is on the ground?

Why is there no outrage for this person? She is not dead, not gun involved, she is a black woman?

I’d love to know if this cop has any DV in his history.

159 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 2:41:31pm

re: #154 thedopefishlives

I wouldn’t hold my breath, Charles.

Evening Lizardim from the hot, humid, and rainy wild north country. Did the lines hold overnight in the war on derp?

It isn’t looking good…

Youtube Video

160 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 2:43:36pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

I’d almost feel sorry for Hoft at this point, if he wasn’t such a recidivist cock-neck.

I have absolutely zero sympathetic impulses relating to Hoft. Politically, he is my mortal enemy.

A grudging acknowledgement of his humanity, combined with caustic observations on his evil worthlessness as a pundit is the best he’ll ever get from me.

161 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 2:44:57pm

re: #139 Lidane

Don’t read the comments!

(Though the indignant one who couldn’t understand how there could be evidence of a struggle on Brown’s body if he hit Wilson in the face was funny.)

162 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 2:45:38pm

Happening now in Oklahoma:

163 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 2:46:09pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Hey Chen, don’t they make a cream for that kind of butthurt?

164 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 2:47:31pm

re: #158 FemNaziBitch

If all the high profile police brutality isn’t enough to piss you off.

I Paged this article, but the link is direct. There is video of the news station KTLA’s report there.

If you can stand it, the unedited (as I understand it) version is here:

[Embedded content]

Video

A woman is walking, illegally while black, on the highway. Is this reason for a male police officer to repeated punch her while she is on the ground?

Why is there no outrage for this person? She is not dead, not gun involved, she is a black woman?

I’d love to know if this cop has any DV in his history.

There was HUGE outrage when this happened (well, I saw it…maybe it didn’t quite make all the rounds, but that is sort of par for the course). That cop is now suspended and they are looking at “severe criminal charges” against him (I read this update yesterday).

165 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 2:47:33pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

What phrase will those dipshits use when they’re proven wrong?

I bet they blame Obama. Or Holder. Or they’ll find a way to blame you for their idiocy.

166 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 2:47:36pm

Eyewitness and Video/iPhone recorder of the incident interviewed

Link:

167 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 2:47:43pm

re: #163 thedopefishlives

Hey Chen, don’t they make a cream for that kind of butthurt?

Yes and also Wingnut Wine.

168 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 2:48:04pm

I really don’t miss the utterly depraved lies from the rightwing these days. It does seem they are doing their level “best” to stir up racial animosity, too.

Otherwise, how is everyone? : )

169 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 2:48:08pm

re: #108 Iwouldprefernotto

‘

Irvine Lake. I grew up in the OC. (Now in Brooklyn). Took my son there to go fishing, didn’t catch a thing, but had a great time.

I love going there. Now though it’s really low. The water level has dropped a good 20+ feet.

170 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:48:24pm

re: #151 WhatEVs

So “Josie” could be entered as evidence?

Hypothetically.

Costello v. United States

Brief Fact Summary. After being indicted upon the hearsay testimony of three IRS agents, Petitioner sought to have his trial and conviction overturned because the agents had no personal knowledge of the truth of the information upon which they testified.

Synopsis of Rule of Law. Hearsay evidence is admissible to obtain an indictment when its acceptable counterpart is to be presented at trial.

So yeah, unless Missouri has some rule requiring grand jury evidence to comport with trial evidence rules.

171 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 2:48:30pm

re: #165 Lidane

What phrase will those dipshits use when they’re proven wrong?

I bet they blame Obama. Or Holder. Or they’ll find a way to blame you for their idiocy.

One of those three or Al Sharpton or any African-American community activists. Communist activists are worse than white supremacists to them.

172 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 2:49:13pm

re: #164 WhatEVs

There was HUGE outrage when this happened (well, I saw it…maybe it didn’t quite make all the rounds, but that is sort of par for the course). That cop is now suspended and they are looking at “severe criminal charges” against him (I read this update yesterday).

For some reason, I just picked-it up.

It hasn’t gotten the mileage it should have, IMHO.

She is suing and has family support. I hope she finds justice.

173 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 2:49:33pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Hypothetically.

So yeah, unless Missouri has some rule requiring grand jury evidence to comport with trial evidence rules.

Well, that’s outstanding.

174 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 2:49:58pm

re: #163 thedopefishlives

Hey Chen, don’t they make a cream for that kind of butthurt?

Their whole existence revolves around Charles. But, “we’re not stalkers!”

175 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 2:50:16pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

One wonders what aspect of the “LGF narrative” is susceptible to change.

The main focus here has been on the malfeasance by FPD et al., about which there is no doubt at all.

Not many are making arguments that depend on precise details of the shooting incident itself.

176 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 2:51:06pm

re: #174 Gus

Their whole existence revolves around Charles. But, “we’re not stalkers!”

And he’s still irrelevant.

177 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 2:51:58pm

Here’s PROOF that Jim Hoft did erase “UNIV OF IOWA” from that CT scan — the wayback machine has a copy of his post with the unedited image:

178 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 2:52:50pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

Here’s PROOF hat Jim Hoft did erase “UNIV OF IOWA” from that CT scan — the wayback machine has a copy of his post with the unedited image:

[Embedded content]

He’s not as dumb as he acts. Stil a malicious asshole of course.

179 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 2:54:08pm

re: #169 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I love going there. Now though it’s really low. The water level has dropped a good 20+ feet.

This might interest you, too:

Report @zillow: #LA, #OC residents spend half of income on rent, mortgage « cbsloc.al @KNX1070

180 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 2:54:32pm

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

For some reason, I just picked-it up.

It hasn’t gotten the mileage it should have, IMHO.

She is suing and has family support. I hope she finds justice.

She was in the hospital for something like three or four WEEKS. Hospitals do everything in their power to get you out - so her being there for so long is indicative of the severity of her injuries. She still slurs even now.

I hate to say this, because I really don’t like the whole food chain thing, but women are almost always below men in reporting like this. I think the woman in the Detroit suburbs getting shot by the old guy who shot her as she was knocking for help was big news because it was kind of on the heels of Zimmerman. Had it not been for that, I doubt she would have made the news at all.

White women have it better than minorities. Homeless and the poor are shit on daily. Had it not been for this video, no one would have even known. Which always makes me wonder…just how many do we not know about?

181 EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2014 2:54:44pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

Surprise, surprise, surprise, as Gomer Pyle would say.

182 Jenner7  Aug 21, 2014 2:55:10pm
183 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 2:55:25pm
184 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 2:55:31pm

re: #174 Gus

Their whole existence revolves around Charles. But, “we’re not stalkers!”

I might have sympathy for them if they had a valid reason to be butthurt. But no, they’re all bended because, what, some blogger on the Internet changed his mind on some stuff and then banned them from his comments section for being royal asstarts? Fuck ‘em all.

185 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 2:55:31pm

re: #168 Justanotherhuman

I really don’t miss the utterly depraved lies from the rightwing these days. It does seem they are doing their level “best” to stir up racial animosity, too.

Otherwise, how is everyone? : )

Fine. Getting more work coming in. My personal web site seems to be working as a portfolio for me.

Still miss you though.

And you know who else, I’ve been wondering about? Hoosier Hoops. Anyone hear from him in a while? We are getting closer to winter…again. So, I wonder how he is doing.

186 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 2:56:49pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

And he’s still irrelevant.

YOU MEAN NOTHING TO ME! NOTHING! THAT’S WHY I FOLLOW YOUR EVERY WORD ON TWITTER AND LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE 2007 WHEN YOU BANNED ME FROM LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS! YOU MEAN NOTHING TO ME! NOTHING! THAT’S WHY I BELONG TO A BLOG THAT KEEP TRACK OF YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE ON THAT BLOG EVERY SINGLE DAY 24/7! YOU ARE IRRELEVANT AND MEAN NOTHING TO ME!!!

//

187 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 2:58:29pm

Jim Hoft is now furiously editing his robots.txt file to prevent future wayback archiving.

188 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 2:59:10pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

And he’s still irrelevant.

YOU MEAN NOTHING TO ME!

[Screen shot]

[Screen shot]

[Charles says…]

Yes, they’re insane.

189 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 2:59:17pm

re: #180 WhatEVs

She was in the hospital for something like three or four WEEKS. Hospitals do everything in their power to get you out - so her being there for so long is indicative of the severity of her injuries. She still slurs even now.

I hate to say this, because I really don’t like the whole food chain thing, but women are almost always below men in reporting like this. I think the woman in the Detroit suburbs getting shot by the old guy who shot her as she was knocking for help was big news because it was kind of on the heels of Zimmerman. Had it not been for that, I doubt she would have made the news at all.

White women have it better than minorities. Homeless and the poor are shit on daily. Had it not been for this video, no one would have even known. Which always makes me wonder…just how many do we not know about?

ALOT

Agencies, like the one for which I volunteer, work for justice for these woman. There are resources and the law is on our side, but woman have been beaten down and conditioned for so long — they just don’t believe the can find justice.

ESPECIALLY minority and immigrant women.

The statistics we see are just what is reported. Women don’t talk about it, even to each other often and VERY RARELY to the men they know. It is a common topic of conversation.

As a result, many of the woman you know —even your spouse, sister or co-worker may be survivors.

I’m not kidding.

190 iossarian  Aug 21, 2014 2:59:31pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Jim Hoft is now furiously editing his robots.txt file to prevent future wayback archiving.

Hopefully he screws it up and no innocent people ever find their way to his website again.

191 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 2:59:45pm

I can’t believe that shooting in St. Louis of that guy isn’t getting more attention. They continued to shoot him while he was on the ground, and cuffed him. Sigh.

192 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:00:22pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

I can’t believe that shooting in St. Louis of that guy isn’t getting more attention. They continued to shoot him while he was on the ground, and cuffed him. Sigh.

I think it’s because he had a knife. Not that I disagree with you in the slightest.

193 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:00:30pm

Must get daily screen shots from the people who mean nothing to me.

Yeah, perfectly normal.

//

194 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 3:00:47pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

I can’t believe that shooting in St. Louis of that guy isn’t getting more attention. They continued to shoot him while he was on the ground, and cuffed him. Sigh.

It seems there are too many incidents to properly report … .

Public will get burned-out if they are inundated with the truth.

195 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:01:07pm

re: #193 Gus

Must get daily screen shots from the people who mean nothing to me.

Yeah, perfectly normal.

//

You know how I know you’re irrelevant? I follow a blog that follows your every move.//

196 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:01:22pm

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING ME A STALKER!! ARE YOU WATCHING ME!! YOU’RE THE REAL STALKER!!!

//

197 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 3:01:55pm

The saddest thing about Hoft’s edit might be his apparent use of MS Paint.

198 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:02:15pm

It’s like catching a peeping Tom in your yard and having him call you a stalker.

199 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 3:02:32pm

One of the e-newsletters I get has a section that chronicles Police Brutality. I think it’s only drug-related tho.

I have to dig.

200 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 3:04:42pm

re: #198 Gus

It’s like catching a peeping Tom in your yard and having him call you a stalker.

Stalker!

201 FemNaziBitch  Aug 21, 2014 3:04:43pm

time to feed the animals

bbl

202 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:05:08pm

re: #189 FemNaziBitch

That’s where all my touchy-feely, empathy-feeling, liberal ass panties gets all in a twist. And that the right wingers have no concept of empathy for any other human being depresses me. I try not to hate people, and it’s a weird concept to hate people you don’t even know, but I really hate some of these people - or at least the persona’s the display online.

203 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 3:05:11pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I think it’s because he had a knife. Not that I disagree with you in the slightest.

Add to it some seem to see it as a suicide-by-cop deal in some way.

204 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 3:05:20pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I think it’s because he had a knife. Not that I disagree with you in the slightest.

Can’t tell from the video though. But I’m sitting here behind a keyboard. No excuse to shoot him after he fell to he ground. The guy definitely had some mental/emotional problems. Maybe from what was going on in Ferguson at the time. No doubt the cops were on a hair trigger too. Bah. Do MO cops not have tasers?

205 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 3:05:50pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Jim Hoft is now furiously editing his robots.txt file to prevent future wayback archiving.

You’re assuming he even knows what that is.

206 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:06:08pm

re: #191 GlutenFreeJesus

I can’t believe that shooting in St. Louis of that guy isn’t getting more attention. They continued to shoot him while he was on the ground, and cuffed him his corpse. Sigh.

Sorry. Had to FIFY.

207 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 3:06:25pm

re: #198 Gus

It’s like catching a peeping Tom in your yard and having him call you a stalker.

208 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:06:42pm
209 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 3:06:52pm

re: #198 Gus

It’s like catching a peeping Tom in your yard and having him call you a stalker.

Speaking of your stalker…

@TGUS_807

I blocked.

210 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 3:06:54pm

re: #203 ObserverArt

Add to it some seem to see it as a suicide-by-cop deal in some way.

Absolutely. The guy needed help. Not bullets. And a bunch of other cops were seconds away. The situation could have and should have gone differently. It just saddens me. All for 2 cans of soda or whatever it was.

211 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:07:23pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

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Racists are the same way.

YOU’RE THE REAL RACIST!

212 brennant  Aug 21, 2014 3:07:33pm

Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.

213 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:07:40pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

Fine. Getting more wok coming in. My personal web site seems to be working as a portfolio for me.

Still miss you though?

And you know who else, I’ve been wondering about? Hoosier Hoops. Anyone hear from him in a while? We are getting closer to winter…again. So, I wonder how he is doing.

Oh, I’ll still pop up from time to time (using my grandson’s ‘puter), but I notice my mood has much improved, just not concentrating on all the negative stuff and being present a lot in the meat world with various things.

My g-grandson is starting Pre-K next week, and we’re excited about that. : ) I’ll no doubt be kept a bit busy learning the ropes of having a kid in school these days myself. His dad is working nights, has to be at work by 5 pm and then doesn’t get home until around 6 am, and has to sleep most of the day. It’s tough on him and g-gson both, since they only have a couple of hrs a day to spend w/each other. Even his “off days” are consumed with getting enough rest, since getting up early would knock him off his schedule, so he stays up to keep from being sleep deprived later, since they’re never 2 days in a row, and it’s a driving job with trips to TN, SC, GA and parts of NC. He’s in the middle of working 10 days in a row right now and has no idea if he’ll get a day off at the end of it. {sigh}

214 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:07:59pm

re: #196 Gus

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING ME A STALKER!! ARE YOU WATCHING ME!! YOU’RE THE REAL STALKER!!!

//

YOU BANNED ME 2563 HOURS 34 MINUTES AND 43 SECONDS AGO. BUT I DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR YOUR CRAPPY WEBSITE!!!1!!1

215 dog philosopher  Aug 21, 2014 3:08:47pm

A source close to the investigation tells

FLASH!

Sources Reveal Some Things On The Internet Might Not Be True!!!

further details available from your neighbor’s cousin’s boyfriend…

216 Kilroy01  Aug 21, 2014 3:09:25pm

217 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 3:09:39pm
218 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:09:43pm

re: #214 WhatEVs

YOU BANNED ME 2563 HOURS 34 MINUTES AND 43 SECONDS AGO. BUT I DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU OR YOUR CRAPPY WEBSITE!!!1!!1

Ha! Gus_807 (currently suspended but “replaced” with TGus_807) counts my Tweets. For a while there he was Tweeting about my alleged Tweet rates. You might remember they used to have charts, graphs and statistic about every commentator at LGF.

219 brennant  Aug 21, 2014 3:10:45pm

re: #218 Gus

Ha! Gus_807 (currently suspended but “replaced” with TGus_807) counts my Tweets. For a while there he was Tweeting about my alleged Tweet rates. You might remember they used to have charts, graphs and statistic about every commentator at LGF.

That is bizarre. What is the point of that?

220 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:11:44pm

re: #219 brennant

That is bizarre. What is the point of that?

If I only knew.

221 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 3:11:53pm

re: #218 Gus

Ha! Gus_807 (currently suspended but “replaced” with TGus_807) counts my Tweets. For a while there he was Tweeting about my alleged Tweet rates. You might remember they used to have charts, graphs and statistic about every commentator at LGF.

Yes, indeed I do…then they would use those stats to do their own psychoanalysis of their Lizard targets du jour, IIRC.

222 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:11:55pm

re: #219 brennant

That is bizarre. What is the point of that?

Not just bizarre but enough to point out why people want to stay anonymous online. People like this go out of their way to hurt others.

Scary stuff.

223 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 3:13:25pm

re: #182 Jenner7

224 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:14:11pm

re: #223 lawhawk

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Smears, lies, falsehoods.

225 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 3:16:08pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

He swiped the image from AAPOS, right down to using the Figure 2 in the bottom left corner. He thought he could get away with it.

And he did. For about as long as it took to google search the images, but that was still sufficient for him to spread it to all the like-minded right wing sites, including Fox, and even worked its way into other media outlets that didn’t bother to fact-check his ass.

226 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:16:09pm
227 ObserverArt  Aug 21, 2014 3:17:13pm

re: #223 lawhawk

[@owillis they’re not bad facts. They’re lies. Smears. Call them exactly what they are.]

re: #224 HappyWarrior

Smears, lies, falsehoods.

And if you really want to keep it simple and with one word: BULLSHIT.

228 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 3:18:12pm

I haven’t seen anyone post this follow-up tweet, about 2 minutes after the one Charles posted in the article? Big difference between a swollen face and a fracture.

Also, this CNN video of Ron Johnson walking around the neighborhood talking to people and making references to “a new day”.

I wonder if some of the good cops have decided, “Screw helping cover up the corruption. We’re gonna start leaking the truth.”

229 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:19:52pm

re: #228 CuriousLurker

I haven’t seen anyone post this follow-up tweet, about 2 minutes after the one Charles posted in the article? Big difference between a swollen face and a fracture.

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I wonder if some of the good cops have decided, “Screw helping cover up the corruption. We’re gonna start leaking the truth.”

Let’s hope so. Unfortunately, I think a lot of damage has been done. There’s no way IMO that this case can be tried in STL County.

230 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:19:53pm

Sickos of the World, cont. Just another reason not to have a FB page…

Texas Woman Seeks $123M For False Facebook Profile

dfw.cbslocal.com

231 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:20:45pm

re: #226 Gus

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What could possibly go wrong?

And what were they thinking? If thinking at all, that is.

232 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 3:22:08pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Let’s hope so. Unfortunately, I think a lot of damage has been done. There’s no way IMO that this case can be tried in STL County.

going to be hard to try it anywhere in the U.S. with the amount of coverage it has received along with the amount of BS that’s been spread around. The only ones not exposed to it may be the Amish.

233 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:22:42pm

re: #232 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

going to be hard to try it anywhere in the U.S. with the amount of coverage it has received along with the amount of BS that’s been spread around. The only ones not exposed to it may be the Amish.

That’s for sure. We have his royal derpness, Lord Hoft to thank for that.

234 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 3:24:37pm
236 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:25:32pm

re: #234 Gus

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Disappointing.

237 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 3:26:02pm

re: #234 Gus

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I don’t think I’ve ever had a Watergate flashback before.

Nixon Says He Will Not Appoint a Special Prosecutor to

Maybe I should cut back on the coffee….

238 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 3:26:13pm

re: #234 Gus

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*sigh*

Okay, I’m going back to my code.

239 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:28:03pm

re: #235 CuriousLurker

Holy crap!

Close call: Watch swimmer in Mexico narrowly escapes crocodile.

Uhm. Wow!!

“That’s a big crocodile!”

I’d say so.

240 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:28:09pm

Michael Brown Coalition demands removal of prosecutor

ksdk.com

241 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 3:28:35pm

re: #226 Gus

Still, there are rules in place to prevent the change from becoming problematic. For example, drinking alcohol is prohibited before shooting. Shooting is not allowed in the 24 hours after buying a beer at the range, as well.

“When they are done and they are talking about how the day went, just like at a golf course, they like to sit around and talk about how they shot. Have a bowl of popcorn and have a beer,” Bench said.

Read more: ketv.com

Not a new thing check out this site

oaktreegunclub.com

The weird white area is just where i removed phone and emails etc. D_L worked there for quite some time, and nobody was allowed to shoot after a brew or wine. They have run like that since at least the 1970’s maybe far longer.

242 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:31:21pm

re: #240 Justanotherhuman

Michael Brown Coalition demands removal of prosecutor

ksdk.com

And the prosecutor gives them the big FU.

243 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:32:50pm

re: #241 Rightwingconspirator

Not a new thing check out this site

oaktreegunclub.com

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The weird white area is just where i removed phone and emails etc. D_L worked there for quite some time, and nobody was allowed to shoot after a brew or wine. They have run like that since at least the 1970’s maybe far longer.

Does this mean someone is always monitoring members to see if the “rules” are always followed?

244 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 3:33:25pm

re: #240 Justanotherhuman

Michael Brown Coalition demands removal of prosecutor

ksdk.com

A coalition! They are organizing!

245 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:33:58pm

re: #244 wrenchwench

A coalition! They are organizing!

Yep good to see.

246 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 3:34:17pm
247 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:34:20pm

re: #242 WhatEVs

And the prosecutor gives them the big FU.

That demand was made was after Nixon said he wouldn’t ask McCulloch to recuse himelf from the case.

248 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 3:35:01pm

re: #243 Justanotherhuman

Does this mean someone is always monitoring members to see if the “rules” are always followed?

Full time range officers. And a wary owner operator staff. All the rules.

Worth noting they have a big store too, so quite some non shooting retail folks coming and going.

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 3:35:06pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

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It’s only a “File Photo” if it belongs to Hoft, which it does not.

250 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:35:06pm

re: #246 Kragar

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That’s sad. Can’t say I blame them though after what happened to Brown and the other guy.

251 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:36:24pm

re: #250 HappyWarrior

That’s sad. Can’t say I blame them though after what happened to Brown and the other guy.

Except now the cops know they are under a microscope…

252 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:36:58pm

re: #251 Justanotherhuman

Except now the cops know they are under a microscope…

True that.

253 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:37:42pm

re: #247 Justanotherhuman

That demand was made was after Nixon said he wouldn’t ask McCulloch to recuse himelf from the case.

For optics alone, he should have recused himself. How can the public believe there’s any justice; Justice for Those People?

254 Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2014 3:38:35pm

re: #73 Skip Intro

‘Support Officer Darren Wilson’ GoFundMe Raises Over $137,000 For Cop Who Shot Michael Brown

huffingtonpost.com

With all the racists in this country, I’m surprised it hasn’t reached over one million $$$ by now. I’m sure it will in a few days. An all-White jury will ensure that Wilson will walk so the money is not necessary. At the very least, I hope that Wilson is not allowed to police in Ferguson.

255 Bubblehead II  Aug 21, 2014 3:38:43pm

re: #226 Gus

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Not really that big of a deal. The local Trap/Skeet club here in T.F. serves beer and wine. The minute you buy either, you are prohibited from entering the active shooting area and violating this rule earns you a permanent ban to the facility. Same goes if you show any signs of drinking before showing up.

256 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:39:08pm

re: #254 Patricia Kayden

With all the racists in this country, I’m surprised it hasn’t reached over one million $$$ by now. I’m sure it will in a few days. An all-White jury will ensure that Wilson will walk so the money is not necessary. At the very least, I hope that Wilson is not allowed to police in Ferguson.

or anywhere else.

257 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:39:54pm

re: #251 Justanotherhuman

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Powell was shot 12x while Ferguson burned. I think we’re likely looking at the smallest, weakest microscope available.

258 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 3:40:28pm

In Ferguson, nothing is changing at all.

Ferguson Cop Pulls Gun On Photographer Who Was Asking Directions to the Media Area

259 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 3:41:39pm

re: #226 Gus

Commission OKs liquor license for shooting range on.ketv.com

Slippery slope, next thing you know they’ll have topless cocktail waitresses wearing nothing but a shoulder holster and a g-string.

///

260 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 3:41:44pm

re: #258 Rightwingconspirator

In Ferguson, nothing is changing at all.

Ferguson Cop Pulls Gun On Photographer Who Was Asking Directions to the Media Area

It’s been said before. If these guys act this way with the microscope on them, I wonder how they’ve been acting without it.

261 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 3:45:33pm

re: #253 WhatEVs

For optics alone, he should have recused himself. How can the public believe there’s any justice; Justice for Those People?

McCullough’s base of political support is the police unions and law and order voters. He’s afraid to be seen by the cops as abandoning one of their own and allowing a much more zealous special prosecutor to step in. DA’s are generally vulnerable on their right.

262 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:46:12pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

It’s been said before. If these guys act this way with the microscope on them, I wonder how they’ve been acting without it.

Holy crap…

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 3:46:44pm

First, a possible pipeline explosion in Alabama Oklahoma, now this:

Explosion at Huntsville gas company sends 2 to hospital, debris flying into other buildings

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama — Nearby buildings shook when a hydrogen tank outside Holston Gases at 4912 Moores Mill Rd. exploded Thursday afternoon. Witnesses say it was amazing no one was seriously hurt, even workers who were standing nearby.
Employees with the Huntsville gas company said they were testing liquid nitrogen when the hydrogen tank exploded at approximately 2:30 p.m. Emergency crews found debris flooded the parking lot. In fact, shrapnel landed all over the neighborhood.

264 simoom  Aug 21, 2014 3:47:00pm

On Hannity’s Radio show, from today, he uses the Hoft “eye socket fracture” claim as an explanation for the number of bullets Wilson fired:

mediaite.com

Smith: “I understand your argument, but can you honestly say it would have taken six bullets to stop him if he’s unarmed?”

Hannity: “You asked a question, let me answer it. You know I’ve been a pistol marksman since I was 12 years old, right?”

Smith: “Yeah, I do. And now you’re a martial artist.”

Hannity: “Yeah, that’s right.”

Smith: “Go ahead.”

Hannity: “And you know I have a liscense to carry in New York. I had one in California, Rhode Island, Alabama and Georgia. I’ve carried a weapon more than half my life. You know that, right?”

Smith: “OK. Yup.”

Hannity: “At first I had a hard time understanding the six shots. Now, you — what most people — and I tell you that I don’t think the police officer trained well enough — I would tell you, that if he had an injury. An orbital eye-socket fracture. That, to me, explains hitting him three times in the arm, and once in another spot, before he could ultimately stop Michael Brown, who is a pretty big kid, from coming at him. Because I can tell you that not only does he have the issue of adrenaline running through his system, that could really screw up your shooting. Now he has an eye problem. That could doubly screw up your shooting. So my answer is that.”

265 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:49:02pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

McCullough’s base of political support is the police unions and law and order voters. He’s afraid to be seen by the cops as abandoning one of their own and allowing a much more zealous special prosecutor to step in. DA’s are generally vulnerable on their right.

I believe in law and order.

I’m not seeing either in MO.

266 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 3:50:14pm
267 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 3:51:24pm

re: #264 simoom

I saw that coming a mile away. Not that he was walking and shooting a la Mad Max, but he was so injured he just had to put the entire neighborhood in jeopardy, er I mean, fire his weapon repeatedly to put down that monster thug.

268 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 3:54:06pm

re: #257 WhatEVs

Powell was shot 12x while Ferguson burned. I think we’re likely looking at the smallest, weakest microscope available.

Here’s a video of the murder (NSFW).

Youtube Video

Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. They outright murdered that guy.

269 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 21, 2014 3:54:29pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Jim Hoft is now furiously editing his robots.txt file to prevent future wayback archiving.

Presumes the Dumbest Man on the Internet knows what a robots.txt file is…

270 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 3:55:00pm
271 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 3:55:36pm

For VB:

272 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 3:56:41pm

Well done, lizards.

273 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 3:57:02pm

#SMOTI. Let’s do this.

274 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 3:59:03pm

re: #273 Kid A

I feel dumb asking but whats that acronym?

275 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 4:00:13pm

re: #274 Rightwingconspirator

I feel dumb asking but whats that acronym?

Stupidest Man on the Internet. (Jim Hoft; usually Dumbest, but you say “smoti.”)

276 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 4:00:26pm

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:02:34pm

re: #275 Kid A

Stupidest Man on the Internet. (Jim Hoft; usually Dumbest, but you say “smoti.”)

I always pronounced DMOTI as “de-mo-tee”

278 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 4:03:34pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

I always pronounced DMOTI as “de-mo-tee”

Maybe Dim needs to be demoteed to pre-school.

279 Internet Tough Guy  Aug 21, 2014 4:05:26pm

re: #276 Kid A

Why do you insult Butthead like that?

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:06:09pm

bwahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!
{wipes eyes}
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

281 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 21, 2014 4:07:11pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!
{wipes eyes}
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[Embedded content]

2nd dumbest man on the internet says what?

282 stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2014 4:09:19pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!
{wipes eyes}
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[Embedded content]

That’ll help.

283 Franklin  Aug 21, 2014 4:09:35pm

re: #274 Rightwingconspirator

I feel dumb asking but whats that acronym?

284 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 4:10:31pm

What if it turns out that Officer Wilson was really a ghost the whole time?

285 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:11:41pm

Chuckles is apparently still butthurt over this:

He has scribbled some sort of “open letter” to Podhoretz, but I can’t be bothered to click through to Chuckles’ “news” site.

286 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 4:12:45pm

What if we’re all really dead in Limbo and Don Lemon is a smoke monster?

287 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 4:12:59pm

re: #268 Justanotherhuman

Here’s a video of the murder (NSFW).

[Embedded content]

Video

Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. They outright murdered that guy.

Straight with the guns, no attempt to tase or pepper spray, no attempt to deescalate the situation.

Over 2 sodas.

Fuck no.

288 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 4:14:06pm
289 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 21, 2014 4:16:31pm

re: #268 Justanotherhuman

Here’s a video of the murder (NSFW).

[Embedded content]

Video

Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. They outright murdered that guy.

If I had shot a known terrorist on the streets of Baghdad under similar circumstances, I would be in prison. This is insane, absolutely insane. Too many of our cops are lawless, brutal thugs.

290 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 4:17:35pm

re: #141 ausador

Jim Hoft saying that the source was from the district attorney’s office just went up in flames!

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OK, I understand it now. DimJim was using the facilities at the DA’s office and read about the busted eye socket above the urinal.

291 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 4:17:43pm

re: #288 wrenchwench

He looks like he’s in the middle of a war zone…
I mean, like, overseas…
Smh

292 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 4:20:24pm

re: #290 Skip Intro

OK, I understand it now. DimJim was using the facilities at the DA’s office and read about the busted eye socket above the urinal.

For a good time, call O-R-B-I-T-A-L.

293 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 4:20:46pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!
{wipes eyes}
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[Embedded content]

Oh for the love of God.

And that award winning journalist shouldn’t be referring well fed people as being an outside group.

294 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 4:21:12pm

re: #289 Shiplord Kirel

If I had shot a known terrorist on the streets of Baghdad under similar circumstances, I would be in prison. This is insane, absolutely insane. Too many of our cops are lawless, brutal thugs.

It’s claimed the guy had a knife, but right, no attempt to subdue him in any fashion, not even a question from them apparently. Probably nothing will happen to those guys(other than the usual desk duty w/pay. Truly horrific.

295 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 4:21:21pm

re: #287 Kragar

Straight with the guns, no attempt to tase or pepper spray, no attempt to deescalate the situation.

Over 2 sodas.

Fuck no.

I’m beginning to wonder if this is their training - go straight for the gun and once you start shooting, empty your clip.

That dude was incapacitated after three shots, but that cop just kept shooting. And then they handcuffed him as he was bleeding the fuck out.

I’m never, ever going anywhere near Missouri. Ever.

296 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 4:22:14pm

2 cops, with all their training and equipment, can’t subdue a guy?

297 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 4:22:40pm

re: #295 makeitstop

I’m beginning to wonder if this is their training - go straight for the gun and once you start shooting, empty your clip.

That dude was incapacitated after three shots, but that cop just kept shooting. And then they handcuffed him as he was bleeding the fuck out.

I’m never, ever going anywhere near Missouri. Ever.

The Missouri Division of Tourism should just shut its doors.

298 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 4:22:54pm

I’m still relatively new here but I just want to state again just how great I think this website is.

Great job Charles and all, thank you.

299 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 4:22:55pm

re: #295 makeitstop

I’m beginning to wonder if this is their training - go straight for the gun and once you start shooting, empty your clip.

That dude was incapacitated after three shots, but that cop just kept shooting. And then they handcuffed him as he was bleeding the fuck out.

I’m never, ever going anywhere near Missouri. Ever.

I spent 6 years in North Carolina and resolved never to enter the South again for as long as I live

300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:23:23pm

re: #296 Kragar

2 cops, with all their training and equipment, can’t subdue a guy?

Well, technically speaking, they did “subdue” him.
Just not in a manner that is reasonable by any civilized standards.

301 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 4:23:39pm

re: #165 Lidane

What phrase will those dipshits use when they’re proven wrong?

I bet they blame Obama. Or Holder. Or they’ll find a way to blame you for their idiocy.

DimJim will just move on to his next lie, just like he always does. That’s why he’s going get the Journalist of the Year award at CPAC next year.

302 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 21, 2014 4:23:53pm

re: #297 Minor_L

The Missouri Division of Tourism should just shut its doors.

I wonder if they treat the yahoo tourists in Branson like this? Nah, they’re white.

303 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:24:31pm

re: #302 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder if they treat the yahoo tourists in Branson like this? Nah, they’re white.

heh, I immediately thought of Branson as well!

304 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 21, 2014 4:24:56pm

re: #294 Justanotherhuman

It’s claimed the guy had a knife, but right, no attempt to subdue him in any fashion, not even a question from them apparently. Probably nothing will happen to those guys(other than the usual desk duty w/pay. Truly horrific.

I would have laughed at a terrorist who brandished a knife at me.

305 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 4:25:02pm

Good God, the award winning journalist won’t even pay a notary?

He must have some very patient in-laws.

306 goddamnedfrank  Aug 21, 2014 4:25:36pm

Republicans are such bigoted trash:

Anonymous users operating from the Republican-led House were persistently re-editing the page to slur trans actress Laverne Cox by mis-gendering her mentions on the show’s page. For instance, they changed Cox’s description from “real transgender woman” to “real man pretending to be a woman.”

…

“An obvious transphobe is using this IP to edit the article on transphobia,” the Hill quoted one Wikipedia user as saying.

“I have no problem with Congressional staffers editing Wikipedia,” said another user to the anti-trans editor. “I have a problem only with YOU vandalizing Wikipedia.”

The person using the IP address responded — without revealing their identity — that the malicious edits were in fact “official business” endorsed by a member of the House. Their changes, they said, were intended to bring “fairness” to the discussion.

Laser like focus on jobs.

307 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 4:26:12pm
308 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:26:52pm

re: #305 b.d.

Good God, the award winning journalist won’t even pay a notary?

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He must have some very patient in-laws.

Wondering if this twitter crowd sourced lawyer is working for free, too.

309 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 4:26:57pm

re: #268 Justanotherhuman

Here’s a video of the murder (NSFW).

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Video

Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. They outright murdered that guy.

Yeah. That was plain murder. Full Stop.

310 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 4:27:39pm

re: #307 Kragar

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Hahahaha.

Will send out Twitter shout outs for food.

311 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 21, 2014 4:28:07pm

One cop could have kept him talking while the other broke out his shotgun and loaded some beanbags. Maybe they don’t have bean bags, or shotguns, or the training to use them.

312 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 4:28:19pm

re: #305 b.d.

Good God, the award winning journalist won’t even pay a notary?

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He must have some very patient in-laws.

Last time I needed a notary I found a city employee who charged a dollar. I was so happy to find her two blocks away, I gave her two bucks!

313 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 4:28:36pm

re: #305 b.d.

Good God, the award winning journalist won’t even pay a notary?

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He must have some very patient in-laws.

So he doesn’t even have a bank account? Every bank I’ve had an account with notarizes stuff at no charge as part of the service.

314 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 4:30:01pm

re: #272 Kid A

Yeah, had to give credit where credit is due.

315 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 4:30:03pm

re: #307 Kragar

316 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 21, 2014 4:30:50pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!
{wipes eyes}
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

It’s a disturbing turn of events that the well fed journalist class decides to attack rather than join me. They then usually steal my work.

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Did someone steal Chuckie’s lunch money again?

317 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 4:30:53pm

re: #276 Kid A

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that’s an insult to butthead right there.

318 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 4:31:44pm

re: #316 Shiplord Kirel

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Did someone steal Chuckie’s lunch money again?

Still butthurt that he lost his firecrackers.

319 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 4:32:03pm

Yes. ISIS has rekindled the anti-Muslim derp.

320 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 4:33:41pm

Is Progressives Today one of SMOTI’s side jobs?

321 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 4:34:11pm

re: #255 Bubblehead II

Can you walk in the bar carrying a weapon?

322 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 4:34:14pm

re: #296 Kragar

2 cops, with all their training and equipment, can’t subdue a guy?

Apparently not without two guns and a dozen rounds.

Oh, and handcuffs.

Nothing like two cops go in different directions, one with a gun the other non-lethal…you know, using brains instead of extreme force. It begs the question: are the unable to think on their feet? That bodes poorly for everyone if cops are stupider than my dog who has a skull the size if a walnut.

323 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 4:34:34pm

re: #295 makeitstop

I’m beginning to wonder if this is their training - go straight for the gun and once you start shooting, empty your clip.

That dude was incapacitated after three shots, but that cop just kept shooting. And then they handcuffed him as he was bleeding the fuck out.

I’m never, ever going anywhere near Missouri. Ever.

Different rules of engagement for white vs. all other people. Would not surprise me one single bit.

My friend just outside of St. Louis has told me they are pulling over more white people to issue them tickets in an attempt to not seem racist. Seriously.

324 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 4:35:08pm

re: #311 Shiplord Kirel

Maybe they don’t have bean bags, or shotguns, or the training patience to use them.

FTFY. Those guys seem to have wanted to get straight to the shootin’ part.

325 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 21, 2014 4:36:20pm

Don’t cops have nightsticks anymore? Back in the day (late 70s) that was the standard method for dealing with a knife wielding subject. It was practiced a great deal since the baton automatically has much more reach.

326 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 4:36:43pm

re: #299 Kragar

I spent 6 years in North Carolina and resolved never to enter the South again for as long as I live

The Midwest is giving the South a run for its money…always has. I have to say, since I’ve lived in the South for 60+ years (born here w/a few diversional years outside it), that it’s always been whites and their attitudes that have scared the shit out of me (and committed crimes against me), and I’ve been in some of the poorest minority areas of Charlotte as a DSS worker, legal worker, neighborhood organizer, and newspaper collector. People tend to know when you respect them as human beings and they respond to that.

327 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 4:36:49pm

Lou Dobbs is just making stuff up now.

Dr. Baden doesn’t have anything to do with the criminal investigation and has never seen Wilson. I highly doubt that Dr. Baden said anything remotely like what Dobbs is claiming he said.

329 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 4:40:31pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

Last time I needed a notary I found a city employee who charged a dollar. I was so happy to find her two blocks away, I gave her two bucks!

The bank I use does it free. But you have to be a customer of theirs.

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:41:35pm

re: #327 b.d.

Lou Dobbs is just making stuff up now.

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Dr. Baden doesn’t have anything to do with the criminal investigation and has never seen Wilson. I highly doubt that Dr. Baden said anything remotely like what Dobbs is claiming he said.

In fact, the only eye blown out was Michael Brown’s, and that’s the eye Dr. Baden mentioned.

331 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 4:42:32pm

How times change.

m.dailykos.com

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:43:12pm
333 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 4:43:22pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

In fact, the only eye blown out was Michael Brown’s, and that’s the eye Dr. Baden mentioned.

Close enuf! //

334 The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2014 4:45:15pm

re: #268 Justanotherhuman

Anyone else look at this video and see someone clearly experiencing a mental breakdown, not a criminal?

Multiple murdering white guy….we catch him alive and speculate about his sanity. Maybe take that extra step and talk about how tragic it is.

But if you’re in the wrong racial/economic demographic…nope, you’re just deserving to die, and there’s nothing to wonder about.

335 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 4:46:54pm

re: #322 WhatEVs

Apparently not without two guns and a dozen rounds.

Oh, and handcuffs.

Nothing like two cops go in different directions, one with a gun the other non-lethal…you know, using brains instead of extreme force. It begs the question: are the unable to think on their feet? That bodes poorly for everyone if cops are stupider than my dog who has a skull the size if a walnut.

The 2nd cop car was there in less than a minute. They were scared backup wouldn’t have arrived in time?

Something stinks in St Louis

336 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 4:47:25pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

In fact, the only eye blown out was Michael Brown’s, and that’s the eye Dr. Baden mentioned.

I bet you Dobbs got confused. That makes sense, Dobbs saw the Baden said something about an eyeball and assumed it was about the shooter cop.

What a pompous dumbass.

337 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 4:47:52pm

I’ll bet Missouri native Harry S Truman is turning over in his grave, given how MO has declined in valuing human lives.

338 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 4:48:38pm

re: #329 Justanotherhuman

The bank I use does it free. But you have to be a customer of theirs.

Same here, but not the close branch, and the main branch is almost two miles away, and I was on foot. I coulda grabbed a bike, but I was a buck’s worth of happy not to.

339 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 4:49:42pm

It seems to me Cops need to be trained on how to disarm someone with a knife. It’s standard self-defense. There is absolutely no need to shoot someone wielding a knife. Even if it’s a freaking machete.

340 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 21, 2014 4:50:34pm

re: #334 The Ghost of a Flea

yeah that dude was definitely having issues, none of which justified being shot.

341 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 4:50:58pm

re: #339 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

It seems to me Cops need to be trained on how to disarm someone with a knife. It’s standard self-defense. There is absolutely no need to shoot someone wielding a knife. Even if it’s a freaking machete.

Couple of years ago? San Diego cops shot dead a guy with a tree branch.

342 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 4:51:34pm

re: #334 The Ghost of a Flea

Anyone else look at this video and see someone clearly experiencing a mental breakdown, not a criminal?

Multiple murdering white guy….we catch him alive and speculate about his sanity. Maybe take that extra step and talk about how tragic it is.

But if you’re in the wrong racial/economic demographic…nope, you’re just deserving to die, and there’s nothing to wonder about.

Anybody who asks to be shot by the police should not be, if it is at all avoidable. It sure looked avoidable to me. It could have turned more dangerous, but they were a long way from needing to kill him.

343 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 4:52:03pm

re: #334 The Ghost of a Flea

Anyone else look at this video and see someone clearly experiencing a mental breakdown, not a criminal?

Multiple murdering white guy….we catch him alive and speculate about his sanity. Maybe take that extra step and talk about how tragic it is.

But if you’re in the wrong racial/economic demographic…nope, you’re just deserving to die, and there’s nothing to wonder about.

Yes, it did occur to me, since he was shouting, “Kill me, kill me” and wandering around, rather aimlessly after putting those 2 sodas on the curb.

I thought that was fairly obvious, though, to any rational person. Either mental illness or drugs which mimicked mental illness.

344 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:53:04pm

Yeah! Why didn’t Obama invade Mexico with Navy Seals and whatnot for an alleged gunrunner?
The stupid…it burns brightly with this one.

345 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 4:53:35pm

Haven’t checked to see if anyone else mentioned this, but tonight’s Inside the Actor’s Studio is the Robin Williams episode in case anyone is interested (it was great!)

346 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 4:56:15pm

Buckle up, lizards…

347 Unabogie  Aug 21, 2014 4:57:55pm

Darren Wilson never filed a freaking incident report? And they let him leave town?

nbcnews.com

348 klys  Aug 21, 2014 4:59:31pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took them 30 minutes to call in the SLCPD to investigate an officer-involved shooting?

Just. Really.

349 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 5:00:17pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

Buckle up, lizards…

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Does that mean 10 days after the shooting, the FPD asked the SLCounty PD to investigate it as a homicide?

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 5:01:38pm

re: #349 wrenchwench

Does that mean 10 days after the shooting, the FPD asked the SLCounty PD to investigate it as a homicide?

I think the later dates are in relation to the official report.
Dispatch times are August 9.

351 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 5:02:56pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

But, still…what? If it’s listed as a homicide, then isn’t this just admitting they’ve been obstructing justice?????

352 klys  Aug 21, 2014 5:03:18pm

re: #349 wrenchwench

Does that mean 10 days after the shooting, the FPD asked the SLCounty PD to investigate it as a homicide?

The report date is the 9th at 12:43pm.

The shooting is listed as occurring at 12:02pm.

Now, we can ask why it took them until the 19th to enter it (the 8/19 date). And we can also ask why it took Ferguson 30 minutes to call for an investigator from a separate police department.

353 Swift2991  Aug 21, 2014 5:05:33pm

This makes it ever more clear that the Ferguson police department contains a bunch of very nasty people who despise the people they’re supposed to be protecting. I doubt if this officer will ever be punished, though. And even if he is, that’s not what needs to happen — though it’s a start. What needs to happen that there’s more than 6% turnout in the next municipal elections in Ferguson, and a reform slate has to be elected. The Ferguson police department needs some serious retooling. The truth is hardly ever apocalyptic; it’s hard work.

354 Swift2991  Aug 21, 2014 5:07:26pm

re: #351 gwangung

“Homicide” means “intentional killing,” which is certainly is. That doesn’t mean it’s murder, or manslaughter, or negligent homicide, or a justifiable homicide.

355 Bubblehead II  Aug 21, 2014 5:08:23pm

Night Lizards. Sleep well and may the Deity of your choice smile/sneer down upon you as the case may be.

356 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 5:10:04pm

re: #345 BeachDem

Haven’t checked to see if anyone else mentioned this, but tonight’s Inside the Actor’s Studio is the Robin Williams episode in case anyone is interested (it was great!)

It was epic. Was waiting for the replay. Thanks for the heads up.

357 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 5:10:45pm

re: #336 b.d.

I bet you Dobbs got confused. That makes sense, Dobbs saw the Baden said something about an eyeball and assumed it was about the shooter cop.

What a pompous dumbass.

I believe it is supposed to be two separate stories:

Same old Fox story of Wilson’s eye socket injury they have been pushing since it was first brought up yesterday evening.

Dr. Baden will be discussing the criminal investigation (as in what the autopsy evidence adds/removes from case).

Can’t always be as clear as you would like to be in 140 characters…

358 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 5:14:42pm

re: #353 Swift2991

This makes it ever more clear that the Ferguson police department contains a bunch of very nasty people who despise the people they’re supposed to be protecting. I doubt if this officer will ever be punished, though. And even if he is, that’s not what needs to happen — though it’s a start. What needs to happen that there’s more than 6% turnout in the next municipal elections in Ferguson, and a reform slate has to be elected. The Ferguson police department needs some serious retooling. The truth is hardly ever apocalyptic; it’s hard work.

Antonio French is opening up an office. I have hope for the turnout in the future.

359 Green Alien  Aug 21, 2014 7:16:04pm

Good grief. Two unnamed sources now?? Does anyone have the cojones to go on the record?

360 Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2014 11:47:41am

re: #359 Green Alien

Good grief. Two unnamed sources now?? Does anyone have the cojones to go on the record?

I don’t like unnamed sources either, but there’s a huge difference between an unnamed source on CNN and an unnamed sourced from serial liar Jim Hoft. CNN gets the benefit of the doubt. Jim Hoft should always be assumed to be lying.


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