Exposing Gateway Pundit’s Dishonesty: He Altered a CT Scan Image to Trick His Readers

Scheming fraudster is busted
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Here’s another follow-up to my article about Jim Hoft’s dishonest tactics in promoting his bogus claim that officer Darren Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in a purported struggle with teenager Michael Brown.

As I pointed out in the earlier piece, Hoft posted a stock image of a CT scan of a fractured eye socket, but apparently erased the words “UNIV OF IOWA” from his copy of the image.

Well, thanks to LGF readers @franklinftw and @loveheylola, I can now remove the word “apparently” from that description, because we have proof that Hoft (or someone who works with him) did indeed alter that CT scan, almost certainly to mislead people into believing it was an image of officer Darren Wilson. (And he was successful in fooling many right wingers, including Ann Coulter.)

A cached version of Hoft’s page at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine captured at 18:08:39 (UTC) on August 19th shows that when Hoft first posted the image, it did contain the words “UNIV OF IOWA.” Here’s a screenshot of the Internet Archive’s cached version:

Zooming in on the CT scan, we see the words “UNIV OF IOWA” at bottom right:

But an hour later, at 19:19:19 on August 19th … hey! What happened to the “UNIV OF IOWA?”

That’s right, folks — in that hour between the first capture and the second, Hoft crudely blacked out the words “UNIV OF IOWA” and reposted the image, in a pathetically obvious attempt to hide the true source of the CT scan.

A closeup view of the altered version:

Not only has Jim Hoft’s story been shown to be false by CNN, we now know he deliberately misled his readers into thinking this was a CT scan of officer Darren Wilson by altering the image.

Jim Hoft is busted. Exposed as a fraudster. He should apologize and retract this post, but I know he won’t — because that’s not how the Dumbest (and Most Dishonest) Man on the Internet rolls.

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483 comments

1 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:03:15pm

He was exposed (thanks to you, Charles) as a fraudster long ago.

2 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 5:04:32pm

Obviously this will mean the Right Wing will abandon him in droves and destroy his reputation utterly.

Yeah… not holding my breath on that.

3 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 5:05:44pm

It’s been a big day for Jim:

Stupidest Man On Internet Proves Michael Brown Autopsy Is Complete Fraud

Doktor Zoom:

Most importantly, he [Parcells] is not, and has never claimed to be, the lead investigator in the Brown autopsy. In a follow-up comment, Parcells also insists that he has always worked “under the strict request and guidance of a licensed pathologist.” We wonder if Mr. Hoft is in the habit of screaming at dental hygienists, “You’re not a dentist!”

4 The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2014 5:07:04pm
5 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 5:07:49pm

That Fox News used this information and treated it credibly tells us everything we need to know (and already did know, I guess) about them. Pure right wing propaganda outlet. They have the same level of journalistic integrity as SMOTI. In other words, zero.

6 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:08:26pm

Dim Jim has a new BREAKING story: Michael Brown liked to rap. Holy shit! An 18-year-old kid liked to rap!!!!

7 klys  Aug 21, 2014 5:08:49pm

Hat-tip to Backwoods_Sleuth, a first peek at the incident report for SLCPD relating to the Brown case. Don’t hold your breath, it’s very short. Two pages, barely.

But some very interesting questions in those two pages - the biggest one to catch my eye is why did it take Ferguson Police Department 30 minutes from the shooting (and we know backup was on scene by 12:04pm) to call for investigators from a separate police department?

8 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 5:09:00pm

Purposefully misled readers. Lied. Dishonest.

Take your pick.

Because Hoft maliciously introduced this in order to make people think that Wilson suffered a serious injury from his encounter with Brown, giving him the excuse to blow Brown away.

The reality is quite different. The injury wasn’t anything like what Hoft alleged and then outright claimed as fact.

But instead of retracting or clarifying that the scan wasn’t Wilson’s he went the opposite direction implying that it was. Attempting to remove details about the scan seals it.

Yet, it was such a bad hatchet job on editing that he left so many identifying features that it’s a blatant image grab from the AAPOS site. Right down to the Fig. 2 in the lower left corner, and all the other scan details, including the diamond pointing at the fracture on the scan.

Jim Hoft is a dishonest and malicious little man. Who also owes more than $3,000 for losing his bet to Wonkette. And still hasn’t paid up.

9 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:10:43pm

re: #6 Kid A

Dim Jim has a new BREAKING story: Michael Brown liked to rap. Holy shit! An 18-year-old kid liked to rap!!!!

You can’t be serious. He’s focusing on THAT?

10 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 5:10:49pm

re: #7 klys

Hat-tip to Backwoods_Sleuth, a first peek at the incident report for SLCPD relating to the Brown case. Don’t hold your breath, it’s very short. Two pages, barely.

But some very interesting questions in those two pages - the biggest one to catch my eye is why did it take Ferguson Police Department 30 minutes from the shooting (and we know backup was on scene by 12:04pm) to call for investigators from a separate police department?

My guess is that they were waiting on Chief Jackson to make that call.

11 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:11:16pm

Really though if Hoft is focusing on Brown enjoying to rap, that guy’s even more pathetic and out of touch than I thought he was.

12 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 5:12:12pm

re: #6 Kid A

Dim Jim has a new BREAKING story: Michael Brown liked to rap. Holy shit! An 18-year-old kid liked to rap!!!!

Worse: Michael Brown was not a real rapper; he had no degree.

13 The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2014 5:12:25pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Really though if Hoft is focusing on Brown enjoying to rap, that guy’s every member of his readership who gets a thrill from that dogwhistle is even more pathetic and out of touch than I thought he was.

14 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:13:09pm

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

Heh true enough.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2014 5:13:29pm

Im a 30 something white guy. I rap sometimes. Does that mean I deserve to get shot?

16 klys  Aug 21, 2014 5:13:32pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

My guess is that they were waiting on Chief Jackson to make that call.

I’d really hope there was some kind of established procedure on hand for an officer-involved shooting, but none of what we’ve seen from the FPD inspires confidence.

17 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 5:13:42pm

Hoft is giving his readers what they want, the fact that it is totally manufactured BS is besides the point.

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18 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:14:18pm

I was rapping to Party Up at my cousin’s wedding. According to Jim Hoft, I’m a thug.

19 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 5:14:26pm

And like that, Hoft’s already on to the next “breaking” event:

wow. Brown liked rap. Even had a misogynstic tinge to his lyrics. Ummm…. Robin Thicke’s Blurred Lines anyone?

And what does Brown’s rap have to do with Wilson shooting him six times dead.

The answer…. drumroll: NOTHING.

It’s irrelevant to what Wilson did. Wilson shot and killed Brown in an encounter that should never have gotten to that level.

The focus should be on what Wilson did that day, why he used a firearm, and not on irrelevant items from Brown’s background.

Just as it is irrelevant that Wilson’s parents were divorced and that he was in a foster/guardianship situation when he was younger, the focus must be on what Wilson did, and how the encounter played out.

Hoft is being Hoft - maliciously engaging in smears.

20 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 5:15:10pm

This all comes down to Hoft being a racist piece of shit.

21 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 5:15:33pm

re: #19 lawhawk

And like that, Hoft’s already on to the next “breaking” event:

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wow. Brown liked rap. Even had a misogynstic tinge to his lyrics. Ummm…. Robin Thicke’s Blurred Lines anyone?

And what does Brown’s rap have to do with Wilson shooting him six times dead.

The answer…. drumroll: NOTHING.

It’s irrelevant to what Wilson did. Wilson shot and killed Brown in an encounter that should never have gotten to that level.

The focus should be on what Wilson did that day, why he used a firearm, and not on irrelevant items from Brown’s background.

Just as it is irrelevant that Wilson’s parents were divorced and that he was in a foster/guardianship situation when he was younger, the focus must be on what Wilson did, and how the encounter played out.

Hoft is being Hoft - maliciously engaging in smears.

Biggest audience for rap is 13-24 year old white kids.

Hm. What does that say about Brown?

22 Minor_L  Aug 21, 2014 5:15:52pm

The weird thing is that both of his articles, including the one with the blacked out “Univ of Iowa,” link to AAPOS. If someone clicked on it, they would see that the photo is contained in that link. Did he just know no one (including Ann Coulter) would click on it?

23 Egregious Philbin  Aug 21, 2014 5:16:02pm

And yet the wingnuts are still claiming that he put it there as an example.

Hoft……..OWNED

I’d go post on his page, but the POS banned me…..maybe if I use the VPN…. :)

24 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 5:16:12pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Im a 30 something white guy. I rap sometimes. Does that mean I deserve to get shot?

Willing to bet if you asked Dim Jim, he’d say he loves Johnny Cash

Youtube Video

Well, I saw you with another
It made me lose my mind
Shot you with my .38 and now I’m doin’ time
And you put me here, you put me here

Well there’s no way to doubt
There ain’t no two ways about it
As sure as your name’s Kate
You put me here

I’ve been tryin’ to tell ‘em
That I didn’t do no wrong
Only gave you what you been
Deservin’ all along
And you put me here, you put me here

25 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:16:15pm

re: #19 lawhawk

And like that, Hoft’s already on to the next “breaking” event:

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wow. Brown liked rap. Even had a misogynstic tinge to his lyrics. Ummm…. Robin Thicke’s Blurred Lines anyone?

And what does Brown’s rap have to do with Wilson shooting him six times dead.

The answer…. drumroll: NOTHING.

It’s irrelevant to what Wilson did. Wilson shot and killed Brown in an encounter that should never have gotten to that level.

The focus should be on what Wilson did that day, why he used a firearm, and not on irrelevant items from Brown’s background.

Just as it is irrelevant that Wilson’s parents were divorced and that he was in a foster/guardianship situation when he was younger, the focus must be on what Wilson did, and how the encounter played out.

Hoft is being Hoft - maliciously engaging in smears.

Just shut up Jim. Just shut the fuck up and stop trying to rationalize this kid’s death. And by the way asshole you championed Todd “Legitimate Rape” Akin’s cause so you have no right to talk to anyone about misogyny.

26 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 5:16:19pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

They were probably trying to figure out what the procedure was to deal with an investigation involving an officer-involved shooting. So, they called the county pd (an outside agency). That was actually probably the only correct thing they did in all this. But it has been a mess ever since.

27 stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2014 5:16:25pm

re: #6 Kid A

Dim Jim has a new BREAKING story: Michael Brown liked to rap. Holy shit! An 18-year-old kid liked to rap!!!!

Great way to capitalize on all of the new traffic he got from the eye socket story. Now they all know how lame he is.

28 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 5:16:33pm

More kudos for Charles!

“Further, evidence posted by Jim Hoft to back up his claim was soon blown sky high by Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs when it was discovered that Hoft was using an Xray image that he claimed was the actual image of Officer Wilson’s injury which was supposedly leaked to Hoft, but in fact was an image taken from AAPOS website showing what an orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket looks like. Matt Drudge from Drudge Report heralded this proof as gospel, which then spread like wildfire across the right wing atmosphere like a match to dry hay.

- See more at: breitbartunmasked.com

29 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 5:17:09pm

Wanted to post downstairs, but new thread and all that.

30 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:18:27pm

I mean let’s look at country music shall we. Hardly G rated, Jim, but let me guess it’s different because it’s not that “thug” music that you and and your readership fear.

31 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 5:19:08pm

And you know those rappers love singing about the Mary Jane…

Youtube Video

32 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:19:50pm

re: #31 Kragar

And you know those rappers love singing about the Mary Jane…

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Video

You got any country music songs about outlaw life?

33 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 5:20:13pm

He listened to rap music.

So fucking what?

34 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 5:20:41pm
35 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:21:12pm

re: #33 Kragar

He listened to rap music.

So fucking what?

Because it’s BLACK!
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36 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 5:21:27pm

re: #34 CuriousLurker

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You must have been reading my mind this afternoon. Thought about that.

37 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 5:21:38pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

You can’t be serious. He’s focusing on THAT?

Because RAPPER THUG, that’s why.

38 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 5:21:45pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

You got any country music songs about outlaw life?

I don’t think any such thing exists….

I do have some Bon Jovi though

Youtube Video

39 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 5:21:47pm

Good job, Charles—I see Goldie Taylor gave you a nod on Twitter.

40 stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2014 5:21:51pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

Wanted to post downstairs, but new thread and all that.

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Bad Brakes’ third album is killer.

41 CuriousLurker  Aug 21, 2014 5:22:31pm

re: #36 Gus

You must have been reading my mind this afternoon. Thought about that.

GMTA *grin*

42 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:22:43pm

re: #38 Kragar

I don’t think any such thing exists….

I do have some Bon Jovi though

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Video

Uh oh, Jon Bon Jovi’sa thug.//

43 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 5:26:04pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

You got any country music songs about outlaw life?

“Don’t You Think This Outlaw Bit’s Done Got Out Of Hand”

Youtube Video

44 nines09  Aug 21, 2014 5:26:53pm

This will just get him martyrdom in the Tea Bag Grifters On Parade World. Lies and deceit are just below fear and loathing. Hate is King. He really is damaged goods. Dim Jim. The elevator does not go all the way to the top, and the lights are not on.

45 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:27:04pm

So what does Jim think about Folsom Prison Blues. Shooting a man in Reno just to watch him die? Johnny Cash loves murder!

46 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:27:45pm

re: #44 nines09

This will just get him martyrdom in the Tea Bag Grifters On Parade World. Lies and deceit are just below fear and loathing. Hate is King. He really is damaged goods. Dim Jim. The elevator does not go all the way to the top, and the lights are not on.

Yep just like Breitbart’s smearing of Shirley Sherrod didn’t lose him any credibility- in fact he gained credibility in the wingnut community following that more than lost it.

47 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:28:36pm

48 b.d.  Aug 21, 2014 5:28:53pm

MC Rove
Youtube Video

49 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 5:29:29pm

re: #47 Kid A

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I think that pic should be put behind a spoiler alert. Jeez, that face just creeps me out.

50 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 5:30:54pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

You can’t be serious. He’s focusing on THAT?

Yup.

51 bubba zanetti  Aug 21, 2014 5:30:58pm

re: #12 jaunte

Worse: Michael Brown was not a real rapper; he had no degree.

A PH.D in sexology (at 1:52)?

Youtube Video

52 Boyo  Aug 21, 2014 5:31:19pm

I know SMOTI is using his latest BREAKING scoop to imply Michael was a thug who beat people up.

“beat that pussy up” is slang for sex and in the context of Michael’s song it means exactly that.

just saying.

53 nines09  Aug 21, 2014 5:31:26pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Yep just like Breitbart’s smearing of Shirley Sherrod didn’t lose him any credibility- in fact he gained credibility in the wingnut community following that more than lost it.

The right wing nut sacks are the biggest pack of suckers a con man could hope for.

54 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:31:46pm

re: #50 Skip Intro

Yup.

I guess it’s my Gen-Y bias but that just dumbfounds me even for a hack like Hoft.

55 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:32:36pm

re: #53 nines09

The right wing nut sacks are the biggest pack of suckers a con man could hope for.

Yep all you need is an anti-Obama(or any minority person) story and they buy and run with it.

56 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 5:32:36pm

re: #19 lawhawk

It all goes to prove that Brown wasn’t a choirboy like no one claimed ever.

57 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 5:32:41pm

This was all in fun, doncha know…even with gyrating go-go dancers with pistols.

Youtube Video

58 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 5:35:55pm

Evening again, Lizardim. I see Dim Jim, the current King of Derp (think of it as more of “king of the hill” and not “King of France” type of king), is employing that oldest and noblest of right-wing traditions - lie your ass off and hope your sycophants will cover for you. How go things among the trenches on this muggy Midwest evening?

59 nines09  Aug 21, 2014 5:36:29pm
60 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 5:37:37pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I guess it’s my Gen-Y bias but that just dumbfounds me even for a hack like Hoft.

He’s also got a hard-on over that editorial cartoon showing “the animals” carrying plasma tvs they’ve just looted. Crawl through his cache and you’ll see it on every single page.

BTW, do they still make plasma tvs, and did any store in Ferguson carrying 60 inch screens get looted?

Doesn’t really matter though, does it?

61 Boyo  Aug 21, 2014 5:37:52pm
62 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 5:40:29pm

On final approach to 10,000 Twitter followers, yo.

63 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 5:41:24pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

On final approach to 10,000 Twitter followers, yo.

Does that runway have the distance to accommodate a craft of this size? Inquiring minds just got ta know!

64 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 5:41:45pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

On final approach to 10,000 Twitter followers, yo.

LGF convinced me to get a Twitter account. First person I followed was Charles.

65 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 5:42:01pm

re: #31 Kragar

And you know those rappers love singing about the Mary Jane…

[Embedded content]

Video

Waylon Jennings was actually busted for distribution of cocaine (which he flushed down the toilet), and had a $1500/day coke habit.

That song I linked was written because he was a legend in his own mind at the time, I suppose.

One of the lyrics: ” Was it singing through my nose that got me busted by the man… ”

66 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 5:42:27pm

Jim Hoft’s favorite song is Crazy Bitch by Buckcherry. Jim Hoft. Gangsta THUG!!!!

67 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:43:38pm

Merle Haggard spent time at Alcatraz or San Quentin I want to say.

68 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 5:44:00pm

Jim Wright explains why there’s nothing exceptional about American Exceptionalism.

This is part and parcel of The Big Lie we Americans tell ourselves. That one about our vaunted exceptionalism. Heh, heh, exceptionalism. Riiiiight. Exceptionalism isn’t even a real word, but then that’s par for the course. Tell me, America, what’s so damned exceptional about fearing the police? About living in fear of authority? What’s exceptional about armed troops in the streets? About armored vehicles and automatic weapons on the corners, in the playgrounds, guarding the schools and the store and the police stations? About blockades and showing your papers? What’s exceptional about being shot down without trial or due process? What exactly is exceptional about dead kids in the street? What’s exceptional about tear gas and rubber bullets - or lead ones for that matter? But then what’s so exceptional about an armed population? About citizens who solve their differences with pistols and assault weapons? What’s exceptional about racism and inequality and disparity and naked hate? What’s exceptional about crime and riot? What’s exceptional about the arrest and detainment of journalists and reporters? What’s exceptional about political division that verges on civil war? These things are all too common around the world.

Come now, tell me, America.

Compare the images from Ferguson, Missouri to Gaza, to Moscow, to Tiananmen Square, to Brazil, to any of a hundred supposedly inferior Third World places we see on our TVs every single day and tell me again about our great American exceptionalism.

If you want to be exceptional, America, then you have to be the exception. Q.E.D.

The events of Ferguson, Missouri over the last week are the norm in America.

stonekettle.com

69 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 5:44:51pm

re: #68 Skip Intro

Excellent essay, BTW. All lizards should read it.

70 Jenner7  Aug 21, 2014 5:45:35pm

Anyone want to suffer through Hannity to see if he’ll retract his eye fracture claim???? :)

71 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:46:00pm

re: #68 Skip Intro

Jim Wright explains why there’s nothing exceptional about American Exceptionalism.

stonekettle.com

LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

72 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 5:46:04pm

re: #70 Jenner7

Anyone want to suffer through Hannity to see if he’ll retract his eye fracture claim???? :)

Retract? Oh, I see your mistake. You have Fox News confused with a reputable media outlet.

73 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:46:21pm

re: #70 Jenner7

Anyone want to suffer through Hannity to see if he’ll retract his eye fracture claim???? :)

Sorry, I’m watching paint dry tonight.

74 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 21, 2014 5:46:52pm

re: #19 lawhawk

wow. Brown liked rap. Even had a misogynstic tinge to his lyrics. Ummm…. Robin Thicke’s Blurred Lines anyone?

Early one morning while makin’ the rounds
I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down
I went right home and I went to bed
I put that lovin’ .44 beneath my head

First time I shot her I shot her in the side
Hard to watch her suffer
But with the second shot she died
Delia’s gone, one more round Delia’s gone

And then one night while the sheriff was a-sleepin’
We all gathered round him slowly creepin’
And heaven help me to forget that night in the cold cold rain
When we beat him to death with a thirty-five pounds
Of Blackjack County chain

75 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:47:07pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Excellent essay, BTW. All lizards should read it.

Yes, this is very good work by Mr. Wright.

76 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:48:00pm

re: #70 Jenner7

Anyone want to suffer through Hannity to see if he’ll retract his eye fracture claim???? :)

No thanks, I think there’s a Barney and Friends re-run.

77 Justanotherhuman  Aug 21, 2014 5:48:39pm

Later, Lizards!

Fight the laws that are worth fighting. Like giving police unlimited power. Overturn discriminatory laws that treat people differently depending on who they are. Those we can do without.

78 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:49:04pm

Kid Rock likes to rap. And he’s WHITE.
3rd Bass liked to rap. And they were WHITE.
Eminem likes to rap. And he’s WHITE.
Perry Farrell tries to rap. And he’s WHITE.
Rap music’s largest demographic is WHITE.

79 Jenner7  Aug 21, 2014 5:49:54pm

re: #72 thedopefishlives

Oh dear, how silly of me. I should know better.

80 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 5:50:19pm
81 Kid A  Aug 21, 2014 5:50:38pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

No thanks, I think there’s a Barney and Friends re-run.

For some reason that reminded me of American Beauty when Kevin Spacey said “Can we get home? The James Bond marathon starts tonight on TNT.”

82 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 5:50:44pm
83 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:50:48pm

re: #80 Gus

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? McCarthyism I’m guessing.

84 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 5:50:50pm

re: #74 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Yeah, Johnny Cash. Willie Nelson. Pretty much every musician has written about drugs or alcohol (or both) at one time or another. Beatles. The Who. Zeppelin. They all did. And still do.

Then there’s the misogynistic song lyrics. Pervasive.

And all irrelevant to why Wilson shot and killed Brown.

85 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 5:50:53pm

As a highly decorated freedom fighter, Ten-Star General James Tiberius Hoft would appreciate if in the future you use “redacted” instead of “altered.”

Sincerely,
The George S. Patton Society & Harmonica Quartet
(available for parties and weddings)
Derpville, USA

86 nines09  Aug 21, 2014 5:51:54pm

Here’s two real deal crazy as a bug country western acts. And it ain’t an act.
Johnny Paycheck Just Crazy man, crazy.

87 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 5:51:57pm

re: #80 Gus

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Yeah. It’s kinda too bad that it be like that. But it is what it is. I’m not going to stop criticizing Greenwald or Snowden because some of the other people who do it are assholes too.

88 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 5:52:14pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

? McCarthyism I’m guessing.

No. Just social regressives.

89 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 5:52:16pm

re: #79 Jenner7

Oh dear, how silly of me. I should know better.

It’s okay. We all make mistakes. At least some of us are willing to admit to them. Unlike Mr. Hoft and his ilk.

90 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:52:47pm

re: #88 Gus

No. Just social regressives.

Ahhh gotcha.

91 Floral Giraffe  Aug 21, 2014 5:52:54pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

On final approach to 10,000 Twitter followers, yo.

Do you get a toaster?
Good job on this story!

92 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:53:27pm

re: #89 thedopefishlives

It’s okay. We all make mistakes. At least some of us are willing to admit to them. Unlike Mr. Hoft and his ilk.

Have we ever esen the likes of him, Bryan Fischer, Ann Coulter, ever admit a mistake or wrongdoing without resorting to but but but the left.

93 wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2014 5:53:32pm

Later, lizards.

94 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 5:54:23pm

re: #78 Kid A

Korn. Limp Bizkit. - mixing heavy metal with rap.

Rush (try the middle of Roll the Bones). - prog rock and rap

Blondie (yeah, seriously old school). New wave, funk, punk, and rap.
Beastie Boys. YEAH Boyeeeeeeee. No. Sleep. Til. Brooklyn. Brass Monkey.

95 Floral Giraffe  Aug 21, 2014 5:54:34pm

re: #93 wrenchwench

That owl found a cool burrow!

96 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 5:54:47pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Have we ever esen the likes of him, Bryan Fischer, Ann Coulter, ever admit a mistake or wrongdoing without resorting to but but but the left.

Actually, have we even seen any of them admit to a mistake, period? I’m actually serious; have any of the right-wing icons actually admitted to a factual error of any sort? Even when caught out, I’m pretty sure they just changed the subject and never admitted to it.

97 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:55:41pm

re: #96 thedopefishlives

Actually, have we even seen any of them admit to a mistake, period? I’m actually serious; have any of the right-wing icons actually admitted to a factual error of any sort? Even when caught out, I’m pretty sure they just changed the subject and never admitted to it.

You’re right, to answer your question I can’t say I have ever.

98 WhatEVs  Aug 21, 2014 5:55:47pm

re: #52 Boyo

I know SMOTI is using his latest BREAKING scoop to imply Michael was a thug who beat people up.

“beat that pussy up” is slang for sex and in the context of Michael’s song it means exactly that.

just saying.

I’m thinking Hoft hasn’t seen a pussy let alone beat one up in a very, very, very long time.

This is a recurring problem with conservatives. Broomsticks wedged firmly up their asses and desperately needing to get laid.

99 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 5:57:02pm

I was looking for a clip of Kate Hudson singing “Pop that pussy” but the internet has failed me.

100 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:57:09pm

re: #98 WhatEVs

I’m thinking Hoft hasn’t seen a pussy let alone beat one up in a very, very, very long time.

This is a recurring problem with conservatives. Broomsticks wedged firmly up their asses and desperately needing to get laid.

Explains Bryan Fischer and the religious right. So much talk about gay sex.

101 Franklin  Aug 21, 2014 5:57:34pm
102 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 5:57:41pm

I still find it funny that Todd Akin’s biggest backer on the internet is trying to act like he cares about sexism.

103 urbanmeemaw  Aug 21, 2014 5:58:54pm

re: #78 Kid A

Karl Rove likes to rap and he’s pasty!

104 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 5:59:08pm

♪ Mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be tweeters ♫

105 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 6:00:11pm

re: #98 WhatEVs

I’m thinking Hoft hasn’t seen a pussy let alone beat one up in a very, very, very long time.

This is a recurring problem with conservatives. Broomsticks wedged firmly up their asses and desperately needing to get laid.

He sees one every time he looks in the mirror.

106 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 6:00:15pm

re: #93 wrenchwench

That’s the new and improved Canon HOOT lens. Super Macro, with an f/owl - 3.5, 28-300 IS.

107 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 6:00:52pm

re: #105 GlutenFreeJesus

He sees one every time he looks in the mirror.

I believe that’s a horse’s ass he’s looking at.

108 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:01:22pm

re: #93 wrenchwench

Owlcam.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 6:02:54pm
110 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 6:03:36pm

Frank Zappa rapped! He’s a fucking thug!!!

Youtube Video

111 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 6:07:28pm

re: #86 nines09

Here’s two real deal crazy as a bug country western acts. And it ain’t an act.
Johnny Paycheck Just Crazy man, crazy.

An excellent tribute album to Johnny Paycheck called Touch My Heart was released in 2004, featuring Neko Case, Big Al Anderson, Marshall Crenshaw, George Jones, Dave Alvin and Mavis Staples. That’s quite a line-up.

112 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 6:08:47pm

Waiting for Dim Jim to apologize (for being caught) in..3..2..1..

113 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:11:52pm

I had a feeling this one was going to be a troll. Sometimes I hate to be right.

littlegreenfootballs.com

114 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 6:12:10pm

Not all wingnuts who write word salads are named Palin.

This is from someone named Lt. Col. Field McConnell.

Plum City - (abeldanger.net): United States Marine Field McConnell has linked Serco’s use of NPL cesium slave clocks to switch Boeing passenger aircraft between decoy and drone maneuvers during war games to HSBC’s apparent payment of spot-fixed vigs to the bookie who disappeared MH Flight 370 during the Cope Tiger exercise in Thailand and allegedly forced the Guild of Air Pilots and Air Navigators to change its name to the Honourable Society of Air Pilots thereby dropping any reference to the trade of the hijackers.

boards2go.com

(not a link to this quote, but just an indication of where this loon is coming from.)

115 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 6:12:48pm

The hatchling who posted that strange “testing” LGF Page is back with a page asking Charles to explain his position on the legality of government surveillance.

littlegreenfootballs.com

116 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:12:49pm

Yikes. I just got one of the craziest emails ever through the contact form.

117 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:13:48pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Yikes. I just got one of the craziest emails ever through the contact form.

Ooh! Sharesies! We like trolls!

118 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:13:51pm

re: #115 ausador

The hatchling who posted that strange “testing” LGF Page is back with a page asking Charles to explain his position on the legality of government surveillance.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Somehow I knew this was coming.

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 6:14:05pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

I had a feeling this one was going to be a troll. Sometimes I hate to be right.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Guess he’s done “testing”…

120 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 6:14:07pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

I had a feeling this one was going to be a troll. Sometimes I hate to be right.

littlegreenfootballs.com

You better answer, Charles. Remember, you’re under oath.

121 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 6:14:53pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Yikes. I just got one of the craziest emails ever through the contact form.

I demand answers!!!

///

122 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:15:44pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

I had a feeling this one was going to be a troll. Sometimes I hate to be right.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Oh, so it’s that guy. I wondered. Have his little friends had any activity yet?

123 klys  Aug 21, 2014 6:15:48pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Yikes. I just got one of the craziest emails ever through the contact form.

You can’t tease us like that and not share.

124 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 6:16:32pm

125 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 6:18:09pm

No electrical fees.

126 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 6:18:13pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Somehow I knew this was coming.

That page needs three more downdings to get booted off the Recent Pages list.

127 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:18:22pm
128 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 6:18:23pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

Guess he’s done “testing”…

3 more downdings & it disappears.

129 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:18:51pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

That page needs three more downdings to get booted off the Recent Pages list.

Make it 2.

130 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:18:58pm
131 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 6:19:23pm

Jesus H Christ is following me

132 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 6:19:27pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

New Avakianoid stalkers?

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 6:19:29pm

He must love pie.

134 lawhawk  Aug 21, 2014 6:20:05pm

Congrats to Charles for the 10k twitter followers.

Here’s your toaster.

135 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:20:13pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus H Christ is following me

Shouldn’t that be the other way ‘round?

136 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 6:20:34pm

re: #135 thedopefishlives

Shouldn’t that be the other way ‘round?

No.

137 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:20:49pm

re: #136 Pie-onist Overlord

No.

Sorry. It was supposed to be a joke.

138 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 6:20:57pm

re: #128 Pie-onist Overlord

3 more downdings & it disappears.

I have done my scaly duty. One more?

139 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 6:21:54pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus H Christ is following me

The sandal prints are always a telltale sign.

140 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 6:22:06pm

re: #94 lawhawk

Korn. Limp Bizkit. - mixing heavy metal with rap.

Rush (try the middle of Roll the Bones). - prog rock and rap

Blondie (yeah, seriously old school). New wave, funk, punk, and rap.
Beastie Boys. YEAH Boyeeeeeeee. No. Sleep. Til. Brooklyn. Brass Monkey.

Youtube Video

141 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2014 6:22:33pm

and then there were 10…
and poof…

142 Franklin  Aug 21, 2014 6:24:32pm
143 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 6:25:07pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus H Christ is following me

You’re not walking on the Kinneret, are you?

144 dog philosopher  Aug 21, 2014 6:27:35pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

I had a feeling this one was going to be a troll. Sometimes I hate to be right.

littlegreenfootballs.com

he seems to think he is a reporter questioning a government official at a press conference

145 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 6:28:17pm

Testing.

146 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 21, 2014 6:28:41pm

re: #84 lawhawk

Yeah, Johnny Cash. Willie Nelson. Pretty much every musician has written about drugs or alcohol (or both) at one time or another. Beatles. The Who. Zeppelin. They all did. And still do.

Then there’s the misogynistic song lyrics. Pervasive.

And all irrelevant to why Wilson shot and killed Brown.

Completely irrelevant. I find it particularly infuriating because this specific kind of stupid music-based character assassination requires an enormous amount of ignorance to be effective, and yet it seems to be effective.

If Steven Spielberg makes a movie depicting events that occurred during the Holocaust, nobody [who isn’t insane] thinks that the depiction of it equals advocacy of it. People don’t [usually] think Herman Melville really wanted to be called Ishmael in real life. But as soon as someone sets something to music, a lot of people think any expression uttered under musical circumstances is meant to be taken as a literal reflection of the day-to-day desires of the person uttering them.

147 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:30:29pm

re: #145 Gus

Testing.

IT’S A TROLL!!!

148 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 6:30:58pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus H Christ is following me

Just forgive him for his sins and he’ll go away. Works for me.

149 stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2014 6:32:32pm

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Jesus H Christ is following me

Just so he doesn’t start writing about it after your gone. That’s nothing but trouble.

150 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 6:34:41pm

re: #146 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

…snip. But as soon as someone sets something to music, a lot of people think any expression uttered under musical circumstances is meant to be taken as a literal reflection of the day-to-day desires of the person uttering them.

Cod’ine

Youtube Video

151 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 21, 2014 6:34:49pm

re: #148 De Kolta Chair

Just forgive him for his sins and he’ll go away. Works for me.

Depends on which “Jesus H. Christ” we’re talking about.

Jesus Hedgefundmanager Christ isn’t the same guy as Jesus Humboldtcounty Christ, for example.

152 klys  Aug 21, 2014 6:37:29pm

If you’re sick of the icebucket stuff, skip this.

As a Foxtrot fan I enjoyed this.

See, I’m even nice to folks and put it behind a spoiler tag so you don’t have to see any of it at all.

153 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:37:58pm
154 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 6:39:21pm

Just read Stonekettle. Jim Wright is quite an amazing essayist. I kinda picture him at his computer ping PINGING the keyboard.

155 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 6:39:29pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

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Have they explained why the x-ray used had a 2006 I believe timedate on it?

156 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:40:22pm

HAVEN’T YOU EVER HEARD OF HIPAA, LIBTARD????

157 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 6:41:22pm

i honestly don’t know HIPAA but I don’t see why that has anything to do with Hoft being a dishonest lying pos.

158 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:42:18pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

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I would love for even ONE of them to explain what in the hell HIPAA is and why it should apply here. Just ONE. I’d pay money just to be allowed to laugh at their completely incompetent response.

159 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 6:42:36pm

re: #152 klys

If you’re sick of the icebucket stuff, skip this.

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See, I’m even nice to folks and put it behind a spoiler tag so you don’t have to see any of it at all.

My nephew did “the challenge” thang a couple of hours ago, with my wife pouring the ice while his mom videoed it. I don’t get it, but I suppose it beats swallowing goldfish while stuffed into a phone booth while wearing a raccoon coat and shouting “22 Skidoo!”

160 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 6:42:48pm

re: #151 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Depends on which “Jesus H. Christ” we’re talking about.

Jesus Hedgefundmanager Christ isn’t the same guy as Jesus Humboldtcounty Christ, for example.

VB plays her cards right, she can get a Benz out of this.

Youtube Video

161 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 6:43:02pm

re: #148 De Kolta Chair

Just forgive him for his sins and he’ll go away. Works for me.

In Crust We Trust

162 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 6:43:05pm

re: #152 klys

If you’re sick of the icebucket stuff, skip this.

[Embedded content]

See, I’m even nice to folks and put it behind a spoiler tag so you don’t have to see any of it at all.

This is the best one I’ve seen, done by one of the folks that put on Umphrey’s McGee superfan parties once a month in Denver called Umphreys Mondays.

facebook.com

163 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 6:44:05pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

Just read Stonekettle. Jim Wright is quite an amazing essayist. I kinda picture him at his computer ping PINGING the keyboard.

Got an Ipad or Android tablet? Try Hanx Writer.

It’s an app that mimics a typewriter, sounds and all. I know it sounds like “Wut?” but for some reason it’s a kick to use, and it’s free.

164 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 6:45:26pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Seriously? Conservatives are going to try to claim Jim Hoft blacked out “UNIV OF IOWA” because of HIPAA rules? LOL! t.co
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 22, 2014

You’ve gotta be shitting me…LOL indeed.

165 klys  Aug 21, 2014 6:45:59pm

The trolls just keep flowing in, complete with incoherent posts.

166 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 6:46:49pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

HAVEN’T YOU EVER HEARD OF HIPAA, LIBTARD????

Yes. That’s why we know the hospital wouldn’t have released it to Hoft even if it was Wilson’s.

167 klys  Aug 21, 2014 6:48:21pm

That’s 6 hatchlings on the original “orbital blowout” post, now.

It’s been an interesting mix, but none of them seem inclined to stick around so far.

168 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 6:48:35pm

re: #166 allegro

I really wish I’d screencapped Hoft’s page the first time I saw it. I don’t remember seeing any “file photo” or link to the site he stole it from.

Lesson learned.

169 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 6:48:54pm

re: #165 klys

The trolls just keep flowing in, complete with incoherent posts.

Kristine Conundrum, P.I.

I miss that show.

170 klys  Aug 21, 2014 6:49:03pm

re: #168 Skip Intro

I really wish I’d screencapped Hoft’s page the first time I saw it. I don’t remember seeing any “file photo” or link to the site he stole it from.

Lesson learned.

Yeah, it would have been nice to have that.

Ah well.

171 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 6:49:49pm

re: #169 De Kolta Chair

Connie Conundrum, P.I.

I miss that show.

I hate it when a conundrum fails.

172 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:50:25pm

re: #168 Skip Intro

I really wish I’d screencapped Hoft’s page the first time I saw it. I don’t remember seeing any “file photo” or link to the site he stole it from.

Lesson learned.

Yep. As soon as you see something, screencap it, lest it disappear down the memory hole forever. The Wayback Machine can only archive stuff every so often.

173 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 6:51:41pm

re: #168 Skip Intro

I really wish I’d screencapped Hoft’s page the first time I saw it. I don’t remember seeing any “file photo” or link to the site he stole it from.

Lesson learned.

Yes, I’ve heard from other people that he added that stuff after the fact.

We need to get in the habit of immediately saving screenshots whenever we see Jim Hoft post something vile. Because he may be stupid, but he’s crafty enough to think (slowly) about the consequences of his evil lies and edit his posts accordingly.

174 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 6:53:18pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

HAVEN’T YOU EVER HEARD OF HIPAA, LIBTARD????

So the doctor that posted that originally back in 2007 violated HIPPA, and the other people who have since used it for illustrative purposes on articles all violated HIPPA?

Gee, I didn’t know that HIPPA applied to redacting the name of the facility where a test was performed. I thought it only dealt with the release of data that identified or revealed privileged information about patients. :p

175 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 6:53:28pm

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Yep. As soon as you see something, screencap it, lest it disappear down the memory hole forever. The Wayback Machine can only archive stuff every so often.

And, it doesn’t work at all if they’re smart enough (or have someone working for them that’s smart enough) to set their robots.txt to block spiders/crawlers

176 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:54:12pm

re: #175 TedStriker

We already know that’s not true of Dim Jim Hoft’s website. We’ve recovered some of these copies via the Wayback Machine.

177 Interesting Times  Aug 21, 2014 6:55:07pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

We need to get in the habit of immediately saving screenshots whenever we see Jim Hoft post something vile. Because he may be stupid, but he’s crafty enough to think (slowly) about the consequences of his evil lies and edit his posts accordingly.

How about using WebCite? Seems like a more foolproof, tamper-proof method.* They offer a bookmarklet as well.

*H/T CuriousLurker - I’m pretty sure she’s the one who first mentioned it.

178 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 6:55:51pm

re: #171 Decatur Deb

I hate it when a conundrum fails.

For sure that’s a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside a burnt Pop-Tart.

179 stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2014 6:57:32pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Have they explained why the x-ray used had a 2006 I believe timedate on it?

My theory on that yesterday was that Brown hit the cop so hard they had to go back 8 years to get the catscan.

180 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 6:57:46pm

Stop giving away free tips so a Hoft follower can relay the message to him. :)

181 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 6:58:13pm

re: #179 stpaulbear

My theory on that yesterday was that Brown hit the cop so hard they had to go back 8 years to get the catscan.

Wow. Super-mega-ultra-MMA-superpunch.

182 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 6:59:04pm
183 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 6:59:19pm
184 psddluva4evah  Aug 21, 2014 6:59:26pm
185 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 7:00:00pm

re: #168 Skip Intro

I really wish I’d screencapped Hoft’s page the first time I saw it. I don’t remember seeing any “file photo” or link to the site he stole it from.

Lesson learned.

He didn’t add the link until the page had been up for about 9 hours. The first time I saw it, (link from his own tweet) it did not say (file photo). About an hour later I ended up back there because I wasn’t sure whether a link went to that page or a different one (shortened URL). That time the (file photo) was there.

If you want to nail down the time that the link got added better, it wasn’t there when it first came up in the thread previous to Charles making it a page. It was added right after that.

186 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 7:00:03pm

Um, that’s an Olympic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

187 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:01:00pm

re: #184 psddluva4evah

[Embedded content]

My surprise, etc., etc.

188 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 7:01:01pm

re: #177 Interesting Times

Webcite is good too. But a screenshot is the best way to preserve stuff like this, because they can get their pages removed from both Internet Archive and Webcite.

189 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 7:01:04pm

re: #184 psddluva4evah

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Jeezus. Now O’Donnell is using “Breaking”.

Just give it a rest.

190 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 7:01:31pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

“I drew red lines on a photo, therefore proof.”

191 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:01:45pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, that’s an Olumpic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

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Well, somebody’s gotta sex this tragedy up.

192 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 7:02:10pm

So accord to Carter, Michael Brown punched Wilson hard enough in the eye to bust his eye socket, then walked back so he could charge like an Olympic hurdler?

193 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 7:02:33pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, that’s an Olumpic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

[Embedded content]

So Wilson shot a half dozen shots simultaneously?

Impressive.

194 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 7:02:36pm

re: #190 jaunte

“I drew red lines on a photo, therefore proof.”

FIRE CAN’T MELT STEEL!!!!

195 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 7:04:05pm
196 psddluva4evah  Aug 21, 2014 7:04:51pm

re: #189 Skip Intro

I’m guessing cause they actually got confirmation from PD, rather than just assuming he didn’t, which alot of people said he didn’t

197 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:07:36pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Wow what the hell.

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 7:07:37pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, that’s an Olympic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

[Embedded content]

199 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:07:38pm

Goddammit my evening just went really downhill hard.

200 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 7:07:45pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

From the fucking get-go, when Officer Wilson called in a shooting on his radio, there’s been deliberate cover-up of what actually occurred that terrible 9th of August. Hopefully the FBI report will shed some light on some of this, because the cops in St. Louis County are corrupt.

201 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 7:08:00pm

re: #178 De Kolta Chair

For sure that’s a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside a burnt Pop-Tart.

Or a slow trip to the maternity ward.

202 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 7:08:12pm

re: #190 jaunte

“I drew red lines on a photo, therefore proof.”

BREAKING on DimJim’s site tomorrow.

203 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 7:08:45pm

Olympic, not Oompa Loompic

204 stpaulbear  Aug 21, 2014 7:08:57pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

Didn’t that have something to do with the fifth amendment and not having to incriminate yourself? I know I’ve heard that excuse.

205 psddluva4evah  Aug 21, 2014 7:09:15pm

re: #199 klys

wait, has Mythbusters been cancelled, or are they all just being let go?

206 KiTA  Aug 21, 2014 7:09:29pm

re: #199 klys

? Are they getting their own show?

207 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:09:50pm

re: #205 psddluva4evah

wait, has Mythbusters been cancelled, or are they all just being let go?

Kari, Grant, and Tory are apparently out. I haven’t seen the episode yet because I am on the west coast but so, so, so incredibly bummed.

208 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:09:57pm

re: #205 psddluva4evah

wait, has Mythbusters been cancelled, or are they all just being let go?

Mythbusters is still continuing on, just without the Build Team (Kari, Grant, Tory). If anyone knows why, THEY BETTER FREAKING TELL ME!

209 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 21, 2014 7:10:02pm

I am utterly convinced that “Fairtaxers” are too stupid to chew their own food.

210 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:10:41pm

re: #207 klys

Kari, Grant, and Tory are apparently out. I haven’t seen the episode yet because I am on the west coast but so, so, so incredibly bummed.

We just finished watching. Mrs. Fish and I have spent the last 10 minutes frantically Investigoogling to try to find out why. We can’t find anything (not that I’m really surprised about that, but still, DAMMIT I WANT ANSWERS!)

211 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:10:42pm

re: #206 KiTA

? Are they getting their own show?

is what I’ve got.

I saw this break on twitter.

212 KiTA  Aug 21, 2014 7:10:57pm

re: #208 thedopefishlives

Mythbusters is still continuing on, just without the Build Team (Kari, Grant, Tory). If anyone knows why, THEY BETTER FREAKING TELL ME!

It must be something… odd, since they didn’t even let them speak. I’m guessing it was a last minute decision or something similar? Not sure.

213 bubba zanetti  Aug 21, 2014 7:11:43pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, that’s an Olympic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

I’m sure they’ll find the starting blocks any minute now.

214 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:12:12pm

re: #212 KiTA

It must be something… odd, since they didn’t even let them speak. I’m guessing it was a last minute decision or something similar? Not sure.

Kari was around on Twitter tonight. They’ve apparently been sitting on it.

215 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 7:12:54pm

IT BEGINS…

216 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 7:13:02pm

re: #182 Gus

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So much bettah!

217 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:13:46pm

re: #216 Stanley Sea

So much bettah!

Yes. Brought tears to my eyes.

218 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:14:46pm

re: #209 Pie-onist Overlord

I am utterly convinced that “Fairtaxers” are too stupid to chew their own food.

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Nice to know that the Fair Tax won’t be mandatory. //

219 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 21, 2014 7:14:51pm

re: #199 klys

Goddammit my evening just went really downhill hard.

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What the hell?

220 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 7:15:48pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, that’s an Olumpic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

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Dr. Baden found that the bullet that struck the top of the head was traveling slightly forward and towards the right eye. So to enter the crown of his head on that angle his head would have had to be lowered slightly past 90 degrees angle from the barrel of the gun.

221 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:15:50pm

re: #214 klys

The show is taking a new direction.

Funny… In my industry, that’s a euphemism for, “You’re fired.”

Not cool.

222 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:16:52pm

re: #221 thedopefishlives

Funny… In my industry, that’s a euphemism for, “You’re fired.”

Not cool.

I know, I’m really unsure what’s going on.

Cost? Insurance? I don’t know.

223 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:18:45pm

re: #222 klys

I know, I’m really unsure what’s going on.

Cost? Insurance? I don’t know.

Kari seems pretty broken up about it. Sounds like not an amicable parting. Mrs. Fish wondered if they were getting their own show, but I figured they would be considerably more excited for that.

224 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 21, 2014 7:19:13pm

re: #222 klys

I know, I’m really unsure what’s going on.

Cost? Insurance? I don’t know.

My guess would be declining ratings. I know Kari was a popular part of the show. She spoke on campus here a few years ago and packed the house.

225 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 7:19:40pm

re: #223 thedopefishlives

New direction? MythBusting Pawn Stars, perhaps, or maybe MythBusting Storage Warriors??

226 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 7:19:47pm

re: #210 thedopefishlives

Whenever you see something like this going on, the reason is always money.

227 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 7:20:12pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

228 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:20:54pm
229 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 7:20:57pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

So what does Jim think about Folsom Prison Blues. Shooting a man in Reno just to watch him die? Johnny Cash loves murder!

That’s different because Johnny Cash was a White Christian Heterosexual Male, and those far above the [n-word] Michael Brown in Jim Hoft’s tiny mind.

230 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:21:19pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Whenever you see something like this going on, the reason is always money.

Yep. My guess is a contract dispute that ended in those three getting sent packing. ARGH. I love Jamie and Adam and I really hope this doesn’t kill the show.

231 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:21:30pm

re: #227 Lidane

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Yeah you don’t say. This whole thing is rotten and the work or there lack of by the Ferguson does reeks of cover up- bastards really thought they could get away with this.

232 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:21:54pm

re: #228 Gus

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Same captain that was at OWS right?

233 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:22:00pm

Don’t drink it and only read Marvel, but I can see the attraction.

234 Maddies Mom  Aug 21, 2014 7:22:09pm

re: #159 De Kolta Chair

Missed it by one! It’s ‘23 skiddoo’ ;)

235 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 7:22:30pm

re: #227 Lidane

And now we know, thanks to the graphic above, that it was entirely possible that Wilson fired six rounds simultaneously in a perfect vertical spread.

Game over, man.

236 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:24:10pm
237 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:24:21pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Same captain that was at OWS right?

Guess so.

238 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:25:06pm

re: #237 Gus

Guess so.

Name and city sounded familiar is why I asked. Good on him.

239 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:25:14pm

re: #234 Maddies Mom

Missed it by one! It’s ‘23 skiddoo’ ;)

D-oh! And I walked by the Flatiron Building just the other day. ;-)

240 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2014 7:25:27pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Black kid. Ferguson. Not worth the paper apparently. Sigh.

241 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 7:25:48pm

re: #235 Skip Intro

And now we know, thanks to the graphic above, that it was entirely possible that Wilson fired six rounds simultaneously in a perfect vertical spread.

Game over, man.

If someone says something to that effect, I’m I’m going to just reply: “Eh, I hadn’t heard the Ferguson PD was issuing its officers Beretta 93Rs or Glock 18s.”

Those two guns are full-auto versions of the Beretta 92 and Glock 17, respectively.

242 Unabogie  Aug 21, 2014 7:27:15pm

re: #184 psddluva4evah

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This is pretty amazing. How can they not write contemporaneous statements about what happened? How is that not a violation of some sort of policy?

243 psddluva4evah  Aug 21, 2014 7:29:32pm

re: #230 thedopefishlives

I don’t think it kills the show. Adam and Jamie ARE the show, so as long as they are on, I suspect the show won’t suffer. Not to be mean, but the 3 guys weren’t “essential” to the show, they were comfortable and have been on there the longest though.

244 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:29:35pm

You know watching this preseason game, I really don’t like the new NFL. Too many penalties.

245 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:30:53pm

re: #243 psddluva4evah

I don’t think it kills the show. Adam and Jamie ARE the show, so as long as they are on, I suspect the show won’t suffer. Not to be mean, but the 3 guys weren’t “essential” to the show, they were comfortable and have been on there the longest though.

I know, but it’s just like watching your favorite movie franchise go through a gritty reboot. It may be good, but it’s JUST NOT THE SAME!

246 Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2014 7:31:26pm

So now they’re saying that Wilson was allowed to just disappear without so much as filing a written report?

247 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 7:32:08pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

So now they’re saying that Wilson was allowed to just disappear without so much as filing a written report?

Sure. When the fix is in, who cares about paperwork?

248 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 7:32:16pm

This new eyewitness on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show is telling another very consistent story.

249 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:32:35pm

Ode On An Unseen Rerun

Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard
Are sweeter; therefore, ye soft pipes, play on;
Pipe to the spirit ditties of no tone:
WTF Nobody told me Michael Gambon was once on Doctor Who!

250 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:32:50pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

So now they’re saying that Wilson was allowed to just disappear without so much as filing a written report?

That’s what it seems like. If true, makes all the more wrong that Nixon did not appoint a special prosecutor. I am really hoping that Obama and Holder get DOJ involved. If this is true, I want more than just Wilson punished.

251 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:33:16pm

re: #245 thedopefishlives

I know, but it’s just like watching your favorite movie franchise go through a gritty reboot. It may be good, but it’s JUST NOT THE SAME!

For me, the Build Team was hugely important. I rewatch the episodes with them a lot more than the stuff from Season 1-2 - and keep in mind Kari and Tory occasionally showed up even back then.

I’ll keep tuning in, but I’m incredibly sad. It won’t be the same. Jamie and Adam sometimes need that third party to play off of, or just a break from the tension.

252 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 7:33:22pm

He says Michael Brown was at least 20 feet away from Wilson when Wilson fired several more shots and ended his life.

253 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:33:28pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

This new eyewitness on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show is telling another very consistent story.

What color is their skin though.//

254 Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2014 7:33:31pm

re: #247 Lidane

Sure. When the fix is in, who cares about paperwork?

Good God, so what has the FBI been working with? His recollection as events as conveyed through oral testimony? There’s gotta be more here, like a video tape of him recalling events or something. Otherwise the DOJ would have been reading these dipshits the Riot Act publicly.

255 psddluva4evah  Aug 21, 2014 7:34:24pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

So mad hearing confirmation about the absence of a police report, even though many speculated that it would be the case, the confirmation from Ferguson PD makes it even more raw !

I had to urn off Lawrence O after that. I was just gonna ask if the new witness he talked to seemed credible.

256 Maddies Mom  Aug 21, 2014 7:34:26pm

re: #239 De Kolta Chair

D-oh! And I walked by the Flatiron Building just the other day. ;-)

22 does rhyme better though!

257 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:34:38pm

Honestly, this is feeling less like Treyvon Martin which was terrible mind you but more and more like Mickey Schwermer, James Chaney, and Andrew Goodman.

258 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:35:44pm

re: #251 klys

For me, the Build Team was hugely important. I rewatch the episodes with them a lot more than the stuff from Season 1-2 - and keep in mind Kari and Tory occasionally showed up even back then.

I’ll keep tuning in, but I’m incredibly sad. It won’t be the same. Jamie and Adam sometimes need that third party to play off of, or just a break from the tension.

I’ll still watch. I love Adam and I desperately want to meet Jamie before he dies (which I assume will probably be before I do). I’ll still have a twinge when I think about how they could’ve inserted a Build Team segment right there, though.

259 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:36:55pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

This new eyewitness on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show is telling another very consistent story.

How many eyewitnesses are we up to now, actually? It seems like the police dramatically underestimated how many eyes/cameras were on the scene when this vicious hate crime was committed.

260 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:37:51pm

Mark Fuhrman

“We got females … and dumb n*****s [in the department], and all your Mexicans that can’t even write the name of the car they drive.”

“Cmdr. Hickman … should be shot… . He wanted to be chief. So he wants the City Council and the police commissioner and all these n*****s in L.A. city government—and all of ‘em should be lined up against a wall and f——— shot.”

“When I came on the job, all my training officers were big guys and knowledgeable. Some n*****’d get in their face, they just spin ‘em around, choke ‘em out until they dropped.”

“I used to go to work and practice movements. n*****s. They’re easy. And I used to practice my kicks… “

“Westwood is gone. The n*****s have discovered it. When they start moving into Redondo and Torrance—that’s considered—Torrance is considered the last middle-class white society. When that falls… .”

“It’s pretty clear-cut who the a———- are. You go to Pacoima, you got bikers and n*****s.”

“n***** drivin’ a Porsche that doesn’t look like he’s got a $300 suit on, you always stop him.”

“How do you intellectualize when you punch the hell out of a n*****? He either deserves it or he doesn’t.”

261 danarchy  Aug 21, 2014 7:37:55pm

re: #228 Gus

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Ummm…what is that sign hanging on?

262 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:37:57pm

re: #259 thedopefishlives

How many eyewitnesses are we up to now, actually? It seems like the police dramatically underestimated how many eyes/cameras were on the scene when this vicious hate crime was committed.

I think maybe six including his friend.

263 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 7:38:25pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

Um, that’s an Olympic hurdler, not a rushing bum.

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Entry wounds MIGHT match.

Entry wounds + exits wounds probably don’t.

Entry wounds + exit wounds + height of Brown + height of shooter don’t.

264 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 7:38:32pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

You know watching this preseason game, I really don’t like the new NFL. Too many penalties.

I haven’t vocalized this or really articulated it in any manner, so I’ll do it here: I’m boycotting the NFL. I vow not to watch a single play this season, if I can. I think the NFL conducts its business unethically, with no regard for players’ health and of course the violent girlfriend-beaters get 2 game suspensions while a cannabis user can get banned for an entire season.

I was watching the World Cup this summer, and somewhere along the line I thought to myself This is sport. It is a beautiful game. In that thought, I had another, American Football is just organized violence. Call it an epiphany, whatever, after watching lots of soccer matches this summer I decided that American Football sucks as a sport.

I haven’t even told my parents (die-hard Broncos fans, my mother has an autographed life-sized cardboard cut-out of John Elway, and two Tim Tebow jerseys [she loves those!]).

Haarumph!!! OK, that felt good to get off my chest.

265 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:38:37pm

re: #251 klys

For me, the Build Team was hugely important. I rewatch the episodes with them a lot more than the stuff from Season 1-2 - and keep in mind Kari and Tory occasionally showed up even back then.

I’ll keep tuning in, but I’m incredibly sad. It won’t be the same. Jamie and Adam sometimes need that third party to play off of, or just a break from the tension.

Best comment on it I have seen so far:

why is George R R Martin writing mythbusters now? :(

266 KiTA  Aug 21, 2014 7:38:54pm

re: #259 thedopefishlives

I think they just didn’t (and don’t) care. They have been very blatant in their “we’re the cops and that means we are the law” attitude throughout this. As far as I can tell watching these guys, the fact that the kid ended up dead meant that by definition, the kid was in the wrong (aka he “deserved it”).

267 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:39:17pm

re: #265 klys

Best comment on it I have seen so far:

Okay, that made us both LOL. Well played.

268 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:40:02pm
269 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 7:40:39pm

re: #230 thedopefishlives

Yep. My guess is a contract dispute that ended in those three getting sent packing. ARGH. I love Jamie and Adam and I really hope this doesn’t kill the show.

It’s complete bullshit.

I don’t blame Jamie or Adam for this, because they’re the “talent”, just as the Build Team was; I lay this squarely on the short-sighted heads of those at Beyond Productions and Discovery for this. As soon as the word gets out to the general populace about this, I predict a metric shit-ton of choice comments for the Beyond & Discovery folks about this.

Jamie and Adam are the heart of MythBusters, but it just feels wrong that Tori, Grant, and Kari are gone from the show (technically, IIRC, M5 is Jamie’s sole proprietorship and everyone else, including Adam, are his employees and Beyond & Discovery’s contract is with M5, so the Build Team might not be completely out on their ears, but who knows)

Damnit, Discovery and Beyond, to millions of geeks, nerds, and a lot of other people, the entire MythBusters cast is like family; to me, it feels like what I’m sure the Beatles busting up felt like to those of that generation.

It fucking sucks.

270 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:41:21pm

re: #256 Maddies Mom

22 does rhyme better though!

Perhaps, but it’s wrong, just wrong. Some NYer I am. Sob.

271 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:41:21pm

re: #267 thedopefishlives

Okay, that made us both LOL. Well played.

I have to find something, because I am really, really, really upset.

I know, first world problems and all that.

272 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:41:41pm

re: #266 KiTA

I think they just didn’t (and don’t) care. They have been very blatant in their “we’re the cops and that means we are the law” attitude throughout this. As far as I can tell watching these guys, the fact that the kid ended up dead meant that by definition, the kid was in the wrong (aka he “deserved it”).

Yeah, I think that’s abundantly clear. Somehow I picture the conversation as follows:

“Hey, yeah, I shot some black kid to death out here on the street.”
“Well, did he deserve it?”
“He was in my way, so yeah, he did.”
“Okay, well, no need to file a report. Just lay low for a few days, we might have you leave town so be packed and ready to go. We’ll bring you back on with full pay when it all blows over.”

273 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 7:42:13pm

re: #268 Gus

Mark Fu*****n

274 Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2014 7:42:17pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

So now they’re saying that Wilson was allowed to just disappear without so much as filing a written report?

He’ll write it after the brass and the PR people tell him what his story is.

275 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:42:29pm

re: #271 klys

I have to find something, because I am really, really, really upset.

I know, first world problems and all that.

{{{klys}}}

The show must go on.

276 Belafon  Aug 21, 2014 7:42:36pm

re: #186 Pie-onist Overlord

She’s not 6’4”.

277 Jenner7  Aug 21, 2014 7:42:58pm

re: #268 Gus

He kept calling the protests “riots” a couple nights ago on Fox News.

278 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 21, 2014 7:43:02pm

re: #268 Gus

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Sean Hannity knows no depths of derp.

279 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 7:43:18pm

Judging by the way he was wandering around the crime scene, Wilson, apparently well known bully that he is, crossed the line and he knew it.
His buddies on the force knew it, but they told him it would be okay, and they had his back. This shooting was supposed to be quietly swept under the rug, and disappear. Wilson’s life and career is worth more than the life of some dead kid.
They didn’t expect witnesses, or this kind of attention, which explains the overreaction.

I’m, of course making assumptions, but it’s not like this has never happened before.

280 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:43:43pm

re: #260 Gus

Mark Fuhrman

Sounds like a nice guy.re: #264 teleskiguy

I haven’t vocalized this or really articulated it in any manner, so I’ll do it here: I’m boycotting the NFL. I vow not to watch a single play this season, if I can. I think the NFL conducts its business unethically, with no regard for players’ health and of course the violent girlfriend-beaters get 2 game suspensions while a cannabis user can get banned for an entire season.

I was watching the World Cup this summer, and somewhere along the line I thought to myself This is sport. It is a beautiful game. In that thought, I had another, American Football is just organized violence. Call it an epiphany, whatever, after watching lots of soccer matches this summer I decided that American Football sucks as a sport.

I haven’t even told my parents (die-hard Broncos fans, my mother has an autographed life-sized cardboard cut-out of John Elway, and two Tim Tebow jerseys [she loves those!]).

Haarumph!!! OK, that felt good to get off my chest.

Heh all good. But I need something to watch on fall and winter Sundays when baseball season isn’t going on. I do agree with you about the World Cup. I watched the championship with some Europeans in Lisbon this summer and it was a great experience even if I was dozing a little haha.

281 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 7:43:50pm

re: #276 Belafon

She’s not 6’4”.

Exactly.

282 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:44:21pm

re: #268 Gus

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Really Fox really? Maybe Hannity’s pal Hal Turner can call in too.

283 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:45:38pm

re: #268 Gus

Gus, I’m not going to lie, who the hell is this guy? LAPD sounds like it should be a clue.

284 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 7:45:50pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Sounds like a nice guy.

Heh all good. But I need something to watch on fall and winter Sundays when baseball season isn’t going on. I do agree with you about the World Cup. I watched the championship with some Europeans in Lisbon this summer and it was a great experience even if I was dozing a little haha.

So, you were dozing during some soccer matches but you’re a baseball fan.

okay.

:-P

285 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 7:46:15pm

re: #222 klys

I know, I’m really unsure what’s going on.

Cost? Insurance? I don’t know.

Spinoff.

286 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 7:46:26pm

And don’t even get me started on Golf.

287 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:46:56pm

re: #283 thedopefishlives

Gus, I’m not going to lie, who the hell is this guy? LAPD sounds like it should be a clue.

Mark Fuhrman (born February 5, 1952) is a former detective of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). He is primarily known for his part in the investigation of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Lyle Goldman and his subsequent felony conviction for perjury. He has written true crime books and hosted talk radio.

288 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:47:22pm

re: #284 teleskiguy

So, you were dozing during some soccer matches but your’re a baseball fan.

okay.

:-P

To be fair, Lisbon is a city of many hills and it’s been a hot summer there. As for baseball, having played in my younger days I can really appreciate the strategy behind it. Plus the past three years have been great for the Orioles so I am feeling like a kid again except I can drink beer now too.

289 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:47:30pm

re: #287 Gus

Mark Fuhrman (born February 5, 1952) is a former detective of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). He is primarily known for his part in the investigation of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Lyle Goldman and his subsequent felony conviction for perjury. He has written true crime books and hosted talk radio.

Oh dear God. That explains why the name sounded so familiar.

Right then! *flips desk, lights on fire*

290 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 7:47:39pm

I’m going to post this here so folks can see a story that Jim Hoft and his ilk may use as an “OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!” story tomorrow or over the weekend. This article is a straight piece of journalism, but other versions of the story may well not be:

Huey P. Newton Gun Club stages open carry rally through Dallas (VIDEO)

A group of some 30 African-American gun rights advocates marched in South Dallas Wednesday evening to promote self-defense and protest police shootings.

The newly formed group, calling themselves the Huey P. Newton Gun Club after one of the founders of the 1960s Black Panther party, open-carried rifles and shotguns on their evening walk along Malcom X and Martin Luther King boulevards. The peaceful activists, clad in black, according to the Dallas Morning News, chanted “Black Power” and “Justice for Michael Brown” along their route.

“We think that all black people have the right to self-defense and self-determination,” said Huey Freeman, a march organizer. “We believe that we can police ourselves and bring security to our own communities.”

After announcing plans for the rally earlier this week the group began its march around 8 p.m. at a carwash on Malcom X Boulevard and wound through the neighborhood for about 90 minutes. Walking and talking to local residents throughout its rally, the group stopped at a restaurant and ate alongside a Dallas Police Department deputy chief and shift lieutenant who were already patronizing the establishment.

Image: hpn-gun-club-300x162.jpg

To be fair to Open Carry Texas (OCT) and Open Carry Tarrant County (OCTC), both expressed support for new open carry group.

As for me, I maintain my position that this sort Open Carry activity will long guns is counter-productive and unwise.

291 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:47:49pm

re: #286 teleskiguy

And don’t even get me started on Golf.

Now on that we can agree.

292 klys  Aug 21, 2014 7:47:53pm

re: #285 makeitstop

Spinoff.

I’d like to think that, but given the lack of announcement here (which would have been the perfect time) …I don’t know. :(

293 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 7:49:02pm

re: #228 Gus

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What the heck is holding that sign up? Is it stapled to his pants or something?

(Love that he’s doing this but I wonder about these weird things.)

294 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:49:46pm

Surprised Fox never had David Duke on to discuss how awful Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are. I am dead serious. That network is nothing but Stormfront for people who are too embarrassed to register an account there.

295 Floral Giraffe  Aug 21, 2014 7:49:50pm

re: #222 klys

I know, I’m really unsure what’s going on.

Cost? Insurance? I don’t know.

My bet would be salary issues….

296 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 7:49:59pm

re: #293 allegro

What the heck is holding that sign up? Is it stapled to his pants or something?

(Love that he’s doing this but I wonder about these weird things.)

I don’t know.

297 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 7:49:59pm

re: #269 TedStriker

I As soon as the word gets out to the general populace about this, I predict a metric shit-ton of choice comments for the Beyond & Discovery folks about this.

Go look at the Mythbusters FB page. People are not happy.

298 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 7:50:40pm
299 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:50:58pm

re: #298 Charles Johnson

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Yup. Called it.

300 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 7:51:08pm

Fuck man, my O.J. murder trial memories just flood my brain when Mark Fuhrman’s name comes up. Holy shit. I remember watching him get questioned by F. Lee Bailey and over and over he asserted his 5th amendment privilege.

FLB: Did you say n***** or have ever called African-Americans n***** in conversation with so-and-so?

MF: [cross-talk with lawyers] I assert my fifth amendment privilege.

301 Belafon  Aug 21, 2014 7:51:33pm

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

As for me, I maintain my position that this sort Open Carry activity will long guns is counter-productive and unwise.

It is counter-productive, but, if one group is going to do it, then everyone else should be able to. A BGLT (I alphabetized since I can never remember the correct order) open-carry march through Arlington should be next.

302 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:51:46pm

re: #298 Charles Johnson

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I really wish I could say I’m surprised Charles. I really do but I don’t expect much of anything from Rush Limbaugh’s protege.

303 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 7:51:56pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

Good God, so what has the FBI been working with? His recollection as events as conveyed through oral testimony? There’s gotta be more here, like a video tape of him recalling events or something. Otherwise the DOJ would have been reading these dipshits the Riot Act publicly.

The fifth amendment applies to him too, he cannot be compelled to even make a statement much less put anything in writing if he chooses not to. Any lawyer would tell their client not to make any statements or fill out any reports in a questionable shooting where he might be charged. His lawyer is probably the only one actually talking to the police, prosecutors, or FBI at this point.

304 thedopefishlives  Aug 21, 2014 7:53:15pm

re: #300 teleskiguy

Fuck man, my O.J. murder trial memories just flood my brain when Mark Fuhrman’s name comes up. Holy shit. I remember watching him get questioned by F. Lee Bailey and over and over he asserted his 5th amendment privilege.

FLB: Did you say n***** or have ever called African-Americans n***** in conversation with so-and-so?

MF: [cross-talk with lawyers] I assert my fifth amendment privilege.

I was 11 years old (I remember watching the infamous Bronco chase on the evening news).

305 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:53:23pm

Okay so I’m expecting with this bit about the Ferguson PD not even filing a report that Holder and DOJ are going to get involved somehow. Then I expect the second phase of this which will be to bellyache about the Feds getting involved.

306 TedStriker  Aug 21, 2014 7:53:52pm

re: #297 Lidane

Go look at the Mythbusters FB page. People are not happy.

Can’t right now…I’m at work and FB and Twitter are blocked on ye olde worke internets.

307 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:54:13pm

re: #304 thedopefishlives

I was 11 years old (I remember watching the infamous Bronco chase on the evening news).

True story here (I was only seven at the time) but a longtime friend of my Dad’s actually golfed with O.J not long before the murders happened. Can’t believe it’s been twenty years.

308 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 7:55:45pm

West Coasters - Robin Williams - Inside the Actor’s Studio. 8pm Bravo

309 makeitstop  Aug 21, 2014 7:55:48pm

re: #292 klys

I’d like to think that, but given the lack of announcement here (which would have been the perfect time) …I don’t know. :(

But they injected so much energy into that show, some exec somewhere is reading the tweets and looking up their agent’s number.

They’re too good on TV to not take advantage - unless M5 put a no-compete clause in their contracts.

310 psddluva4evah  Aug 21, 2014 7:55:52pm

Lawrence O going in on NYT again tonight.

311 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:56:17pm

It is nice to know that we do have some decent journalists left.

312 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 7:57:05pm

And let me say how grateful I am that we live in this time of Twitter and social networking. It has its flaws sure but without it arguably, Ferguson is more easily swept under the rug.

313 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 7:57:59pm

re: #303 ausador

The fifth amendment applies to him too, he cannot be compelled to even make a statement much less put anything in writing if he chooses not to. Any lawyer would tell their client not to make any statements or fill out any reports in a questionable shooting where he might be charged. His lawyer is probably the only one actually talking to the police, prosecutors, or FBI at this point.

If the Ferguson PD is unionized, I’m sure his union is giving him the same advice, which wouldn’t be unusual.

Not to knock unions.

314 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 7:58:13pm

Sean Hannity is nothing but an asshole.

315 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 7:58:48pm

re: #306 TedStriker

Can’t right now…I’m at work and FB and Twitter are blocked on ye olde worke internets.

Sounds like my work. They block all the fun.

316 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 21, 2014 7:59:40pm

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to post this here so folks can see a story that Jim Hoft and his ilk may use as an “OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!” story tomorrow or over the weekend. This article is a straight piece of journalism, but other versions of the story may well not be:

Bit more than 24 hours late DF:

littlegreenfootballs.com

;)

317 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 7:59:41pm

re: #301 Belafon

It is counter-productive, but, if one group is going to do it, then everyone else should be able to. A BGLT (I alphabetized since I can never remember the correct order) because open-carry march through Arlington should be next.

With pink, teal, or lavender stocks and plenty of chrome on their AR-15s. Sounds fabulous. ;)

318 Danny  Aug 21, 2014 8:01:24pm

re: #303 ausador

The fifth amendment applies to him too, he cannot be compelled to even make a statement much less put anything in writing if he chooses not to. Any lawyer would tell their client not to make any statements or fill out any reports in a questionable shooting where he might be charged. His lawyer is probably the only one actually talking to the police, prosecutors, or FBI at this point.

I read somewhere that Wilson has been interviewed twice by StLC investigators.

319 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:01:36pm

I just wish I could be surprised. I used to be surprised by FNC’s shit. Now I am just resigned to it because I realize what their whole aim is.

320 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:02:07pm
321 danarchy  Aug 21, 2014 8:02:17pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Okay so I’m expecting with this bit about the Ferguson PD not even filing a report that Holder and DOJ are going to get involved somehow. Then I expect the second phase of this which will be to bellyache about the Feds getting involved.

What is the protocol? Since they handed the investigation over to St Louis county would they both write incident reports or would the St. Louis County investigator be responsible for taking statements and writing the incident report? I honestly have no idea how that would work.

322 Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2014 8:02:51pm

re: #303 ausador

The fifth amendment applies to him too, he cannot be compelled to even make a statement much less put anything in writing if he chooses not to. Any lawyer would tell their client not to make any statements or fill out any reports in a questionable shooting where he might be charged. His lawyer is probably the only one actually talking to the police, prosecutors, or FBI at this point.

I was under the impression that he didn’t even get a lawyer until days after the shooting, when the FOP said they’d be providing him legal representation. Was there a union rep waiting at the station to tell him what to do, what not to do, and how best to avoid leaving incriminating evidence? Somebody, either Wilson or one of his superiors, knew this was going to be a legally questionable incident and didn’t bother to follow procedure before the cover-up began.

323 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:03:18pm

re: #316 William Barnett-Lewis

Bit more than 24 hours late DF:

littlegreenfootballs.com

;)

Sorry, I wasn’t here last night. And in answer to your comment, I take your point, but I think these folks still have the right of it: The Soviet-developed 7.62x39mm round is ballistically superior to the M1 Carbine round. And those folks in my pic have at least one AK and an SKS.

324 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 8:04:36pm

omg beyond. Genius.

325 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:04:54pm

Unreal.

326 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:05:14pm

re: #321 danarchy

What is the protocol? Since they handed the investigation over to St Louis county would they both write incident reports or would the St. Louis County investigator be responsible for taking statements and writing the incident report? I honestly have no idea how that would work.

No idea either myself.

327 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:05:21pm

re: #304 thedopefishlives

I was 11 years old (I remember watching the infamous Bronco chase on the evening news).

We’re about the same age. I was 12.

That was the first summer we had the big screen rear-projection TV (at the unheard of size of 70”) and when the chase was going down I remember my dad calling all his friends from around the neighborhood to come over and watch. It was a big event in our house.

328 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:05:52pm

re: #325 jaunte

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Unreal.

Again we are talking about a man who befriended an open white supremacist.

329 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 8:07:49pm

re: #318 Danny

I read somewhere that Wilson has been interviewed twice by StLC investigators.

He may have, if so he chose to meet with them, doesn’t necessarily mean that he answered all their questions though.

330 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:07:53pm
331 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:08:17pm

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

With pink, teal, or lavender stocks and plenty of chrome on their AR-15s. Sounds fabulous. ;)

I read on Gawker that maybe there should be a law that says if a man wants a pistol it has to be embossed in bright pink. That way, men’s stigma of the color pink would go away and if a madman starts brandishing his pistol in public, everyone can see the gun clearly and can get to safety quicker.

332 Danny  Aug 21, 2014 8:09:53pm

re: #330 Charles Johnson

Brick wall?

333 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:10:09pm

Woman shot at Ferguson protest: Police took the bullet and now claim they don’t have it

“…Doctors didn’t remove the bullet for a few days, worried that they’d injure her worse. After they operated and dislodged the bullet, police officers showed up at the hospital and took the evidence. Her lawyer has since tried to find out where the bullet went. Neither county nor Ferguson police officers have any idea what bullet they’re talking about.”

334 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 21, 2014 8:10:44pm

re: #86 nines09

Here’s two real deal crazy as a bug country western acts. And it ain’t an act.
Johnny Paycheck Just Crazy man, crazy.

If the crazy talent was not successful at what they do, they would be locked up or confined.

The unsuccessful…

335 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:11:10pm

re: #320 Charles Johnson

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Been following SMOTI’s Orbital Re-entry around the ‘tubes. Ace of Spades tried the “let’s get the facts” approach. He lost control of the baboon troop.

336 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 8:11:59pm

re: #322 Targetpractice

I was under the impression that he didn’t even get a lawyer until days after the shooting, when the FOP said they’d be providing him legal representation. Was there a union rep waiting at the station to tell him what to do, what not to do, and how best to avoid leaving incriminating evidence? Somebody, either Wilson or one of his superiors, knew this was going to be a legally questionable incident and didn’t bother to follow procedure before the cover-up began.

Any cop knows better to start with, they don’t need a lawyer to tell them to shut up and not fill out reports. You think they don’t talk about “what if” amongst themselves fairly often?

It isn’t like he has been hiding under a rock his whole career, police often get sued and have complaints filed against them. He already knew not to go on the record, especially if he had any doubts at all about the legality of the shooting.

337 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:12:19pm
338 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 8:12:57pm

re: #333 jaunte

Woman shot at Ferguson protest: Police took the bullet and now claim they don’t have it

I’m having an odd feeling about that site’s credentials.

339 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:14:49pm

re: #338 De Kolta Chair

I have seen the story at other sites, I’ll see if I can find one.

340 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:17:02pm

WUT

341 KiTA  Aug 21, 2014 8:17:27pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

Maybe they thought youw ere Charles C Johnson?

342 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:17:31pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

WUT

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Could have fooled me.

343 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 8:17:33pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

WUT

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It’s a trap!

344 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 8:18:04pm
345 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:18:05pm

re: #341 KiTA

Maybe they thought youw ere Charles C Johnson?

I think this has to be it.

346 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:18:27pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

I think this has to be it.

Upon further inspection that does sound right.

347 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 8:18:56pm

re: #320 Charles Johnson

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We all have our own motivations. I happen to have just gotten home from taking 88 year old Dad to dinner. So… The worst thing is how Fox has hoodwinked our elders, The parents or if you are young your grandparents. Propagandized in the worst way. That fact more than any other thing they do is what really earns my lasting enmity.

Heck, when you tweeted for someone to watch Fox for mention of the orbit injury bull, I actually had to go to the Time Warner web site to look up the channel #. Seeing the natural wisdom of six or seven or eight decades alive on this planet be so undermined is just tear worthy.

“Dad, you used to know better than that”

I’ll always be looking for a chance to catch them out to humiliate Fox News as best I can.

Heh, Pages. That’s a great help.

348 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:19:22pm

re: #338 De Kolta Chair

Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her

The bullet lodged against her skull, near the middle of her forehead. Aaten-White says it took doctors about a day to decide that it was safe to remove it. She says when she woke up from the surgery on Wednesday evening, August 13, the doctors and nurses told her police officers came and confiscated the bullet as evidence. As she recovered, she says, she waited for those officers to return and do a full interview about the incident.

“I would ask every day while I was there,” she says, “‘Did anyone from the police department come? Have they called for me? Are they going to be here today?’ And nobody could give me an answer.”

Media reports have characterized Aaten-White’s shooting as a “drive-by.”
blogs.riverfronttimes.com

NBC:

A woman was shot in the head in an apparent drive-by shooting early Wednesday in the Missouri town wracked by protests following the fatal shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer. St. Louis County Police spokesman Brian Schellman said four to five black males apparently carried out the shooting on Highmont Drive in Ferguson, Mo., and fled in a car.
nbcnews.com

349 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:19:46pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

WUT

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350 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 8:19:51pm

I…
WTF

From TPM:
“She had them get on the internet and look up everything about it. They proceeded to reenact this shooting in class,” Baughn told WSFA. “Paper guns, the paper bullets … they actually shot them out of this made gun. The child falls on the ground like he’s dead. You’ve got a white child playing the white cop and a black student playing the black male that got shot. What are we teaching our children?”

351 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:19:59pm

re: #333 jaunte

Woman shot at Ferguson protest: Police took the bullet and now claim they don’t have it

Well isn’t that just fortutitous. Make sure she has no basis for that use of force lawsuit amirite?

352 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:20:20pm

“…Aaten-White says she didn’t see a car or a weapon, and the only “four or five” young black men she observed were the ones who brought her to safety.”
blogs.riverfronttimes.com

353 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 8:20:32pm

re: #339 jaunte

I have seen the story at other sites, I’ll see if I can find one.

They claim to be “(c) ACLU of Massachusetts | 211 Congress St, Boston, MA 02110 |[no phone numbers allowed]” but I’m wary.

But as always, I don’t mind being proven wrong.

354 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:21:31pm

re: #353 De Kolta Chair

I don’t know who they are; I’ll stick to the local source at Riverfront Times.

355 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:22:27pm
356 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:22:30pm

re: #349 teleskiguy

I have a feeling I’m going to get some mileage out of this image.

357 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:23:04pm

It’s interesting that the NBC affiliate just goes with the police spokesman’s ‘four or five black males’ version of what happened.

358 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:23:28pm

re: #355 Charles Johnson

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You’re one to talk Squealer.

359 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:23:46pm

This next site’s motto is “Firearms, Not Politics”, but they did see fit to report on the guns carried by the Saint Louis County Police. The title and a sample:

The Guns of Ferguson

Image: 76953879_453575526.jpg

This officer has a very well set up AR10, what appears to be a Knight’s Armament 7.62 SR25 with a 3rd party monolithic handguard and barrel, most likely free floated. Looks to be Harris bipods, Badger Ordnance charging handle,leather sling, and a U.S. Optics scope. The tripod is a Montrotto with a rifle rest clamped to the top. The canted Trijicon RMR and Inforce flashlight are rather puzzling on the other hand, devices meant for a close in fight wherein his rifle is a long range precision arm. Image from BBC News -

The BBC story is here. Note that all the officers seen here are county police and not Ferguson police.

Take the time to read the comments on this story. They actually have some useful tidbits. The Firearms Blog polices its comments quite well so there is no racism to be seen in the comments.

360 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:25:10pm

re: #355 Charles Johnson

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BUUULLLLLSHIT!

361 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:26:13pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

I don’t know, man. I scrolled through her TL and it looks like she’s on our side.

It was a cursory examination, but still…

362 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:26:22pm

re: #341 KiTA

Maybe they thought youw ere Charles C Johnson?

Ssshhh. Maybe she’ll send pie.

363 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:26:49pm

re: #362 Decatur Deb

Ssshhh. Maybe she’ll send pie.

What kind of pie?

364 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:27:38pm

re: #359 Dark_Falcon

Jesus, the AR10 was a pre-Vietnam relic from the Eugene Stoner days. I had no idea it was back in production.

365 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:29:06pm

re: #363 HappyWarrior

What kind of pie?

Coconut cream—pale and nutty.

366 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 21, 2014 8:29:12pm

re: #287 Gus

Mark Fuhrman (born February 5, 1952) is a former detective of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). He is primarily known for his part in the investigation of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Lyle Goldman and his subsequent felony conviction for perjury. He has written true crime books and hosted talk radio.

While watching the OJ homicide trial, my father told me that that OJ would be found not guilty, because the LAPD was corrupt to the point of being incompetent.

367 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:29:21pm

My faith was so much stronger then
I believed in my fellow men
I was really so much older then
When I was young
When I was young

368 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:29:39pm

re: #365 Decatur Deb

Coconut cream—pale and nutty.

I’m game.

369 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:29:41pm

re: #364 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jesus, the AR10 was a pre-Vietnam relic from the Eugene Stoner days. I had no idea it was back in production.

IRA wrote songs to it.

370 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 8:30:21pm

re: #354 jaunte

I don’t know who they are; I’ll stick to the local source at Riverfront Times.

“Someone has the bullet. Someone has the bullet, and it was an officer,” says her attorney, Marwan Porter.

I see now. That’s what I get for skimming the last two paragraphs of that article earlier.

371 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:30:56pm

re: #369 Decatur Deb

IRA wrote songs to it.

I believe it. I have the heard the one mentioning a Thompson gun..

372 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:31:06pm

re: #361 teleskiguy

Yes, you’re probably right. But that tweet just doesn’t match up with reality.

373 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:32:15pm

More on Mya Aaten-White from Wonkette:

St. Louis Police Not All That Interested In How People End Up Shot, Apparently

She also retained Marwan Porter, a Florida-based attorney who specializes in cases involving police misconduct and personal injury. He’s in town now, and Daily RFT spoke with him yesterday as he drove to the Ferguson Police Department to try to obtain Aaten-White’s case files.

“We want to find out who and what agency took possession of the bullet,” he said. “We want to identify who was responsible for firing the weapon that ended up with a bullet being lodged in the front of Mya’s head.”

When we spoke with him several hours later, the story just got weirder.

“I’ve talked to both the St. Louis County Police Department and Ferguson…they have no record…no file number, no report,” he said. “They don’t have anything.”

Apparently they just don’t do paperwork in StL.

374 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:32:27pm

re: #371 Aunty Entity Dragon

I believe it. I have the heard the one mentioning a Thompson gun..

That would be “Off to Dublin in the Green”, if not others. The AR-10 is the star of “My Little Armalite”.

corrected.

375 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:32:57pm

re: #369 Decatur Deb

I first produced me pistol
and then procured me rapier
I said “stand and deliver…or the Devil he may take ye!”

376 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:33:22pm

re: #375 Aunty Entity Dragon

I first produced me pistol
and then procured me rapier
I said “stand and deliver…or the Devil he may take ye!”

Whack for me daddy-o, there’s whiskey in the jar?

377 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:33:55pm

re: #375 Aunty Entity Dragon

I first produced me pistol
and then procured me rapier
I said “stand and deliver…or the Devil he may take ye!”

Whisky in the Jar.

378 Kragar  Aug 21, 2014 8:35:16pm
379 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 21, 2014 8:35:50pm

Here’s a little gun porn for those who are interested:
Miniguns In HD At Dusk Look Like Lead Laser Cannons

“Minigun” seems like the wrong name for this fire breather.

380 Ryan King  Aug 21, 2014 8:35:50pm

We’re going to be linking to these pages for some time to come. Haven’t been this proud of LGF in a while and it’s been a cool place to hang out for some time.

It’s the web’s best kept secret bullshit filter.

381 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:35:50pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

re: #377 Decatur Deb

One of my all time favorites :)

The Metallica cover of it is actually pretty good.

I also really love “The Old Dun Cow”. “Somebody shouted McIntyre!”

382 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:36:21pm

re: #364 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jesus, the AR10 was a pre-Vietnam relic from the Eugene Stoner days. I had no idea it was back in production.

The 7.62x51mm chambered AR-10 in various guises has been back in production since the mid-1990s. The SR-25 the article speaks of is an evolved version of the AR-10 built by Knight’s Armament Corporation of Florida. It is the last design Eugene Stoner worked on before he died and is in service with the US Army as the M110. Since the adoption of AR-10 type rifles by the Army, demand for them has skyrocketed.

re: #369 Decatur Deb

IRA wrote songs to it.

Those were to the later AR-18, which was a 5.56mm rifle.

383 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:36:55pm

re: #372 Charles Johnson

Yes, you’re probably right. But that tweet just doesn’t match up with reality.

Interesting point. Our friend @kathysamira has a view of conservatism that is wholly alien to your astute LGF reader. I wonder if she knows who Bryan Fischer is.

384 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:37:27pm

re: #379 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Here’s a little gun porn for those who are interested:
Miniguns In HD At Dusk Look Like Lead Laser Cannons

“Minigun” seems like the wrong name for this fire breather.

Its daddy fires 20mm.

385 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:37:41pm

re: #379 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Here’s a little gun porn for those who are interested:
Miniguns In HD At Dusk Look Like Lead Laser Cannons

“Minigun” seems like the wrong name for this fire breather.

I’ve seen 20MM gatling cannon fire from a Cobra gunship at night. Amazing stuff.

386 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:38:06pm

re: #385 Aunty Entity Dragon

I’ve seen 20MM gatling cannon fire from a Cobra gunship at night. Amazing stuff.

Off the shoulder of Orion?

387 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:38:19pm

Good night all.

388 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:38:29pm

re: #381 Aunty Entity Dragon

One of my all time favorites :)

The Metallica cover of it is actually pretty good.

I also really love “The Old Dun Cow”. “Somebody shouted McIntyre!”

You know, I’ve never actually heard the Metallica cover. I know the Thin Lizzy version. The Foggy Dew and Down by the Glenside are two of my favorites though.

389 Ryan King  Aug 21, 2014 8:38:54pm
390 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 8:39:31pm

re: #374 Decatur Deb

That would be “Off to Dublin in the Green”, if not others. The AR-10 is the star of “My Little Armalite”.

corrected.

By green, might that be a pun on the color and St. Stephen’s Green? Lovely park it is.

391 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 8:39:51pm

re: #370 De Kolta Chair

“Someone has the bullet. Someone has the bullet, and it was an officer,” says her attorney, Marwan Porter.

I see now. That’s what I get for skimming through the last two paragraphs of that article earlier.

Probably the same officer that had the accidental discharge that hit her in the first place, boy I bet he was smiling when he left the hospital.

/sorta

392 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:40:07pm

Meanwhile, we had quite a few new registrations today, but so far it looks like they’re all crazy wingnuts.

393 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 8:40:16pm

re: #370 De Kolta Chair

“Someone has the bullet. Someone has the bullet, and it was an officer,” says her attorney, Marwan Porter.

I see now. That’s what I get for skimming through the last two paragraphs of that article earlier.

Because a car of 5 or 6 young black men is going to shoot a black woman or into a group of black people who are protesting the murder of a young black man by a white cop. Then the bullet mysteriously disappears after an officer picks it up at the hospital and there’s no police report of the shooting anywhere.

Right. How fucking stupid do those cops think people are to keep telling these incredible stories?

394 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 21, 2014 8:40:19pm

re: #386 Decatur Deb

Off the shoulder of Orion?

I’ve seen C beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gates.

All those moments will be lost in time, like teardrops in the rain.

Honestly, one of the best improv moments ever in science fiction, and I still get chills watching the end of Blade Runner. Best hard science fiction movie ever…hands down.

395 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 8:40:36pm

They got me…
Everyone knows I clean the kitchen after everyone is in bed.
So what to my little gremlins do? They tie down the button on the sprayer with my clear ponytail holders.
Now I’m soaked with no one to yell at.
Vengeance I say!!!

396 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:41:08pm

re: #392 Charles Johnson

None of them appear to know where the active thread is.

397 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:41:22pm

re: #396 jaunte

None of them appear to know where the active thread is.

If anyone asks, I’m at Moe’s.

398 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 8:41:24pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

You know, I’ve never actually heard the Metallica cover.

Youtube Video

399 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:41:41pm

re: #398 Lidane

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Video

Thanks.

400 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 21, 2014 8:42:17pm

re: #396 jaunte

None of them appear to know where the active thread is.

Well by FSM, nobody tell them!

401 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 8:42:32pm

re: #395 OhNoZombies!

They got me…
Everyone knows I clean the kitchen after everyone is in bed.
So what to my little gremlins do? They tie down the button on the sprayer with my clear ponytail holders.
Now I’m soaked with no one to yell at.
Vengeance I say!!!

LOL, That’s a pretty good gag.
Vengeance is yours to choose.

402 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 8:42:58pm

re: #392 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, we had quite a few new registrations today, but so far it looks like they’re all crazy wingnuts.

As a fairly recent LGF arrival myself, I’m up for a spot of troll slaying before tucking in.

403 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:43:01pm

re: #392 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, we had quite a few new registrations today, but so far it looks like they’re all crazy wingnuts.

I will never understand what makes people want to go to a website just to spew at its owner and regulars.

404 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:44:10pm

re: #382 Dark_Falcon

snip…

Those were to the later AR-18, which was a 5.56mm rifle.

Wiki says -15, -16, -18, -180. Anything but my -10.

405 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:46:06pm

re: #390 De Kolta Chair

By green, might that be a pun on the color and St. Stephen’s Green? Lovely park it is.

From the song, I gather wearing the green clothing or insigne, which had been once forbidden.

406 Ryan King  Aug 21, 2014 8:47:01pm

re: #392 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, we had quite a few new registrations today, but so far it looks like they’re all crazy wingnuts.

Stinky had to go all Rick Grimes on those walkers.

407 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:48:46pm

lolwut

408 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:49:31pm

Another Jim Hoft fan.

409 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 8:49:39pm

re: #401 Rightwingconspirator

I’m going to tell them not to use their toothbrushes because they fell in the toilet…after they brush their teeth.

410 Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2014 8:50:18pm

re: #366 BeenHereAwhile

While watching the OJ homicide trial, my father told me that that OJ would be found not guilty, because the LAPD was corrupt to the point of being incompetent.

That is the forgotten aspect of the OJ trial. It’s remembered more for the racial divide. Those cops sucked.

411 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:50:39pm

re: #404 Decatur Deb

Wiki says -15, -16, -18, -180. Anything but my -10.

The IRA fought at close quarters, for which 5.56mm rifles are better. The 7.62mm AR-10 does better at longer ranges. So that makes sense.

412 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:51:17pm

re: #407 Charles Johnson

lolwut

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Too bad for them that Jim Hoft is still a lying sack of shit.

413 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:52:07pm

Speaking of the IRA, went on a pretty cool 1916 rebellion tour in Dublin. The guy who ran the tour couldn’t be nicer and he loved my Irish Brigade tattoo.

414 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:53:03pm
Little Green Footballs - the pot = Gateway Pundit- the kettle = the story… black.

The structure - hackneyed… the comparison - bullshit

415 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 8:53:11pm

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Speaking of the IRA, went on a pretty cool 1916 rebellion tour in Dublin. The guy who ran the tour couldn’t be nicer and he loved my Irish Brigade tattoo.

Youtube Video

416 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 8:53:33pm

re: #405 Decatur Deb

From the song, I gather wearing the green clothing or insigne, which had been once forbidden.

Gotcha. My grand da used to tell me about his folks not being allowed to speak Gaelic in public. He remembered a bit of what he learned at home, and being from the slums of Montreal he spoke some Yiddish and Italian as well.

417 klys  Aug 21, 2014 8:53:49pm

re: #414 jaunte

The structure - hackneyed… the comparison - bullshit

I notice our regulars seem to have much better overall levels of literacy.

418 Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:06pm

re: #355 Charles Johnson

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“In the mean time, I’ll will do my best to keep spreading misinformation and complete bullshit so as to ensure that my audience will keep tuning in.”

419 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:06pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

I will never understand what makes people want to go to a website just to spew at its owner and regulars.

Blind hatred? Psychosis? Sheer Boredom?

That’s why I post at LGF!

/∞

420 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:09pm

re: #417 klys

Well, we do love a pun thread.

421 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:10pm

re: #415 Dark_Falcon

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Video

Fucking Black and Tans.

422 Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:21pm

re: #414 jaunte

I couldn’t figure out what that was supposed to mean, so I just stopped trying and started doing something productive instead.

423 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:34pm

re: #407 Charles Johnson

That don’t make a damned bit of sense.
Which kinda makes sense.

424 allegro  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:44pm

re: #410 Stanley Sea

That is the forgotten aspect of the OJ trial. It’s remembered more for the racial divide. Those cops sucked.

And Furman was the poster boy. He was the reason OJ wasn’t convicted because his racism was so virulent and toxic, nothing from his department could be trusted. When I saw his name pop up a few days ago being interviewed wrt Ferguson I about swallowed my tongue. WTF?

425 klys  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:48pm

re: #420 jaunte

Well, we do love a pun thread.

I wasn’t even going to go to that extreme. Most of us are capable of proper punctuation.

426 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:55:58pm

re: #416 De Kolta Chair

Gotcha. My grand da used to tell me about his folks not being allowed to speak Gaelic in public. He remembered a bit of what he learned at home, and being from the slums of Montreal he also spoke some Yiddish and Italian as well.

I actually tried learning some when I studied in Ireland but I’m a terrible linguist and not a student for language at all. I think it’s a beautiful language myself.

427 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:56:03pm

re: #416 De Kolta Chair

Gotcha. My grand da used to tell me about his folks not being allowed to speak Gaelic in public. He remembered a bit of what he learned at home, and being from the slums of Montreal he spoke some Yiddish and Italian as well.

My grandad tried to teach me some, but i was to young to appreciate it. All that sticks is his pet name for me—Omadaun.

428 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 8:57:00pm

re: #422 Charles Johnson

I think it’s fair to stop trying for meaning after the second dash+equals sign pairing.

429 Ryan King  Aug 21, 2014 8:57:05pm

re: #417 klys

I notice our regulars seem to have much better overall levels of literacy.

Our literacy, because of your Founding Fathers and can has literacy, because constitution. But then Benghazi, and well, Big Gulps. Right?

430 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:57:19pm

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Fucking Black and Tans.

Not all Black and Tans are that bad. I’ve a case of Yeunglings in the fridge.

431 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 8:57:49pm

re: #430 Decatur Deb

Not all Black and Tans are that bad. I’ve a case of Yeunglings in the fridge.

Ha, indeed. Though I’m more an IPA guy.

432 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 8:57:52pm

And suddenly I’m in the mood for some Dropkick Murphys.

Youtube Video

433 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 8:58:41pm

re: #432 Lidane

And suddenly I’m in the mood for some Dropkick Murphys.

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(goes to the fridge)

434 dholmes32  Aug 21, 2014 8:59:35pm

re: #327 teleskiguy

We’re about the same age. I was 12.

That was the first summer we had the big screen rear-projection TV (at the unheard of size of 70”) and when the chase was going down I remember my dad calling all his friends from around the neighborhood to come over and watch. It was a big event in our house.

I’m a few (!) years older than that. I remember watching the white Bronco chase at my granddad’s in Tyler, Texas, the week before he died as a picture in picture with the Houston Rockets NBA finals series. (I was annoyed that OJ overshadowed the Rockets winning the finals.) Twenty years later (two months ago), almost to the day, I was watching World Cup soccer and sitting by my father’s bedside as he was dying. And yeah, I was aware of the irony.

435 klys  Aug 21, 2014 8:59:40pm

re: #433 Decatur Deb

(goes to the fridge)

I am mourning the loss of my favorite trio on my favorite show with a G&T.

436 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:00:27pm

re: #432 Lidane

Devil’s Dance Floor!

Punk Celt Trad. Gotta love ‘em.

437 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 9:00:56pm

Flogging Molly is another good Celtic Punk fusion band. In fact, I like them better than DM’s.

438 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:01:55pm

re: #364 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jesus, the AR10 was a pre-Vietnam relic from the Eugene Stoner days. I had no idea it was back in production.

Some designs have a really long life. Military and law enforcement have largely gone with double action or double action only handguns. But, world championship steel and speed shooters mostly use an evolved variant of the 1911 .45 100 plus years old and the very best for high speed competition in major power factor caliber. Not HK, or Glock. The old John Browning design still is a winner and a frequent home defense gun.

439 teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2014 9:02:17pm

re: #434 dholmes32

Damn dude. That’s an adult dose of reality,

Fuckin’ O.J.!

440 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:03:07pm

re: #427 Decatur Deb

My grandad tried to teach me some, but i was to young to appreciate it. All that sticks is his pet name for me—Omadaun.

Jimmy Cagney, the quintessential NY born and bred Irish movie star, speaking Yiddish:

Youtube Video

441 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:04:08pm

re: #436 austin_blue

Devil’s Dance Floor!

Punk Celt Trad. Gotta love ‘em.

Oops. I meant Flogging Molly. My bad.

(pulls forelock)

442 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 9:04:19pm

re: #437 HappyWarrior

Flogging Molly is another good Celtic Punk fusion band. In fact, I like them better than DM’s.

My favorite jig-punk band:

Youtube Video

443 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 9:04:34pm

re: #440 De Kolta Chair

Jimmy Cagney, the quintessential NY born and bred Irish movie star, speaking Yiddish:

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Video

There’s a place in DC that is get this part Jewish deli and part Irish pub. They call it the Star and the Shamrock. Neat little place.

444 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 9:05:33pm

re: #441 austin_blue

Oops. I meant Flogging Molly. My bad.

(pulls forelock)

Those two are easy enough to confuse but I always remember FM has the actual Irishman Dave King and DK’Ms leadsinger is actually of Scottish and German decent .

445 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 9:06:01pm

And some Celtic-infused Springsteen:

Youtube Video

446 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:07:38pm

re: #437 HappyWarrior

Flogging Molly is another good Celtic Punk fusion band. In fact, I like them better than DM’s.

What day is it? The worst day since yesterday.

Video

447 Teukka  Aug 21, 2014 9:07:59pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

WUT

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O.O It’s an omen, I tell ya, an Omen!

448 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:08:38pm

re: #443 HappyWarrior

There’s a place in DC that is get this part Jewish deli and part Irish pub. They call it the Star and the Shamrock. Neat little place.

Heh, I used to hang in Ginsburg’s Dublin Pub near the Embarcadero in SF. Anchor Porter on tap, along side with Guinness stout. The porter was better.

Good times.

449 Ryan King  Aug 21, 2014 9:08:40pm

Block button, I can haz, for wingnut zombie, that types ‘democRATS’

450 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:08:50pm

re: #426 HappyWarrior

I actually tried learning some when I studied in Ireland but I’m a terrible linguist and not a student for language at all. I think it’s a beautiful language myself.

A friend of mine took Gaelic lessons for several years and eventually moved to Belfast during the height of the troubles, which blew away many of her romantic preconceptions about the Old Sod.

451 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:10:12pm

Hey Dark, I bet you can guess what pistol is in my fast safe. Well think really short barrel.

452 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 9:10:36pm

re: #450 De Kolta Chair

A friend of mine took Gaelic lessons for several years and eventually moved to Belfast during the height of the troubles, which blew away many of her romantic preconceptions about the Old Sod.

one of the Irish people I met on my most recent trip remarked that nearly every Irish person spends at least some of their life away from home. It really is sad since it really is a romantic place and the Irish people are some of the most genuinely kind people I have met in my travels but there’s a lot of sad history and a lot that still needs to overcome.

453 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 9:10:37pm

When your alone and you lie in your bed,
This Irish-punk song will be stuck in your head!

454 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 9:11:02pm

This post contains two photos of another old gun: The PTRS-41 Anti-Tank Rifle. It’s odd to see this vintage gun in use in 2014 Ukraine, 70 years after the the Red Army used those rifles and many other weapons to finally expel the German Wehrmacht from the soil of Ukraine, but its 14.5mm rounds is still highly lethal and effective against many APCs.

Image: tumblr_naltcqwomk1r9khx4o2_1280.jpg

455 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 9:11:04pm

A hungry feeling…………

456 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 9:11:58pm

re: #451 Rightwingconspirator

Hey Dark, I bet you can guess what pistol is in my fast safe. Well think really short barrel.

Some sort of derringer? Or perhaps a Colt Defender?

457 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 9:12:18pm

re: #443 HappyWarrior

There’s a place in DC that is get this part Jewish deli and part Irish pub. They call it the Star and the Shamrock. Neat little place.

The embassy logistics guy who helped me move into our quarters near Tel Aviv was Jewish, made aliya from Dublin. Spoke English with a pure brogue.

458 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:12:31pm

re: #443 HappyWarrior

There’s a place in DC that is get this part Jewish deli and part Irish pub. They call it the Star and the Shamrock. Neat little place.

I’ll have to check that out, thanks. When I lived in San Francisco, I spent a lot of time at the The Plough and Stars on Clement Street. One afternoon I was sitting at the bar reading Lady Astor’s memoirs when a rugby team came in and the bartender advised me to “stash the book.”

459 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 9:13:36pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

Honestly, this is feeling less like Treyvon Martin which was terrible mind you but more and more like Mickey Schwermer, James Chaney, and Andrew Goodman.

The pot-bellied copper shook hands all around,
And joked with the rednecks who came into town
And they swore that the murderer soon would be found
And they laughed as they spat their tobacco.

(Tom Paxton—Goodman and Schwerner and Chaney)

460 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:14:00pm

re: #458 De Kolta Chair

I’ll have to check that out, thanks. When I lived in San Francisco, I spent a lot of time at the The Plough and Stars on Clement Street. One afternoon I was sitting at the bar reading Lady Astor’s memoirs when a rugby team came in and the bartender advised me to stash the book.

Well, sure, Rugby teams don’t cotton to “Readers”.

461 HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2014 9:14:31pm

re: #457 Decatur Deb

The embassy logistics guy who helped me move into our quarters near Tel Aviv was Jewish, made aliya from Dublin. Spoke English with a pure brogue.

I was telling hte tour guide I brought up earlier about Yogi Berra being told about Dublin having a Jewish mayor and his response being “Only in America.” He loved that. I don’t know why but the brogue just makes one feel at ease. Everyone talks about the famous Dublin bartenders but their cabbies are just as nice. Always curious to know where you’re from and what you’ve seen in their city.

462 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 9:15:53pm

And while we’re talking about pistols, we have this lovely-looking Desert Eagle:

Image: dsc_0227_1.jpg

It fires the .50 Action Express cartridge or the always popular .44 Magnum. With a ‘Gold Tiger’ finish, its perfect for a fellow who wants to show sophistication in his choice of penis enhancement.

463 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:15:57pm

My nephew, who recently turned 21, is transferring to Emerson College in a couple of weeks. Anyone know of any good dive pubs in Boston? I’m from Worcester originally, but my knowledge of Boston is pretty thin.

464 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:16:13pm

re: #456 Dark_Falcon

Some sort of derringer? Or perhaps a Colt Defender?

Actually the Colt officers model. The defender came out later. I have both the steel and the very limited edition alloy frame models. If you followed early practical pistol sports the name Mike Dalton, Jeff Cooper etc. Anyway I bought the alloy frame one from Mike. He carried that as a reserve police officer in Sylmar for 20 years. He was very good to D_L and I with his tactical and speed shooting lessons.

465 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 9:16:35pm

re: #272 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I think that’s abundantly clear. Somehow I picture the conversation as follows:

“Hey, yeah, I shot some black kid to death out here on the street.”
“Well, did he deserve it?”
“He was in my way, so yeah, he did.”
“Okay, well, no need to file a report. Just lay low for a few days, we might have you leave town so be packed and ready to go. We’ll bring you back on with full pay when it all blows over.”

In the meantime, you should probably mow your lawn.

466 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 9:17:03pm

re: #464 Rightwingconspirator

Actually the Colt officers model. The defender came out later. I have both the steel and the very limited edition alloy frame models. If you followed early practical pistol sports the name Mike Dalton, Jeff Cooper etc. Anyway I bought the alloy frame one from Mike. He carried that as a reserve police officer in Sylmar for 20 years. He was very good to D_L and I with his tactical and speed shooting lessons.

Very cool.

467 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 9:19:26pm

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

And while we’re talking about pistols, we have this lovely-looking Desert Eagle:

Image: dsc_0227_1.jpg

It fires the .50 Action Express cartridge or the always popular .44 Magnum. With a ‘Gold Tiger’ finish, its perfect for a fellow who wants to show sophistication in his choice of penis enhancement.

Test-fired a less pimped DE at the plant where it was made, in Nazareth. It made you glad to fire the 9mm Jericho.

468 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 9:20:37pm

re: #300 teleskiguy

Fuhrman’s been a semi-regular on Fox for years. They schlep him out whenever there’s a controversial murder.

469 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 9:22:16pm

re: #468 BeachDem

Fuhrman’s been a semi-regular on Fox for years. They schlep him out whenever there’s a controversial murder.

Nice work if you can get it and don’t mind being on the same show as Sean Hannity.

470 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:22:59pm

Charles in the Pages is there anyway to track where major retweets are coming from? I see 123 at the mo for that recently featured page, That’s a lot for my humble efforts.

471 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:30:09pm

re: #467 Decatur Deb

Test-fired a less pimped DE at the plant where it was made, in Nazareth. It made you glad to fire the 9mm Jericho.

The .50 DE is just too damned much gun. Hand cannon. One shot and then no control. Hard to concentrate with bleeding eardrums. Stupid combat weapon. Stupid weapon, period.

472 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:30:11pm

re: #427 Decatur Deb

My grandad tried to teach me some, but i was to young to appreciate it. All that sticks is his pet name for me—Omadaun.

Have you ever read Brian O’Nolan, who wrote under the pen names Flann O’Brien and Myles na gCopaleen? Now there’s a writer. “At Swim-Two-Birds” is one of my very favorite books. I like everything he wrote.

And now to bed. Oíche mhaith agus codladh sámh.

473 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 9:33:22pm

re: #472 De Kolta Chair

Have you ever read Brian O’Nolan, who wrote under the pen names Flann O’Brien and Myles na gCopaleen? Now there’s a writer. “At Swim-Two-Birds” is one of my very favorite books. I like everything he wrote.

Nope—will check.

474 BeachDem  Aug 21, 2014 9:34:12pm

re: #367 HappyWarrior

My faith was so much stronger then
I believed in my fellow men
I was really so much older then
When I was young
When I was young

Half-cracked prejudice leaped forth
“Rip down all hate,” I screamed
Lies that life is black and white
Spoke from my skull, I dreamed
Romantic facts of musketeers
Foundationed deep, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I’m younger than that now.

475 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:34:50pm

re: #473 Decatur Deb

Nope—will check.

Please do so. He’s wonderful.

476 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:44:57pm

re: #460 austin_blue

Well, sure, Rugby teams don’t cotton to “Readers”.

He was just warning me that reading a book by a rich Brit aristocrat might not be a good idea around a bunch of Irish blokes getting their drink on. I kept on reading anyway, and the jocks couldn’t have cared less. Funny thing is, Lady Astor, née Nancy Witcher Langhorne, was from Danville, Virginia.

477 Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2014 9:47:24pm

‘Nite, all.

Youtube Video

478 De Kolta Chair  Aug 21, 2014 9:53:12pm

re: #477 Decatur Deb

‘Nite, all.

[Embedded content]

Goodnight Deb and that haunting rendition is now downloaded, converted and ready for the ol’ iPod.

479 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 5:03:24am

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Webcite is good too. But a screenshot is the best way to preserve stuff like this, because they can get their pages removed from both Internet Archive and Webcite.

Can they remove them from peeep.us?
A screenshot is inherently unreliable, because it’s too easy to fake one…

480 makeitstop  Aug 22, 2014 6:36:47am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Those two are easy enough to confuse but I always remember FM has the actual Irishman Dave King and DK’Ms leadsinger is actually of Scottish and German decent .

Dave King used to sing for a hair metal band called Fastway back in the day.

Youtube Video

481 MaeScott  Aug 22, 2014 7:27:17am

Charles got a shout out from Denise over at DKos…..Link

482 wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2014 8:24:12am

re: #481 MaeScott

Welcome, hatchling.

483 MaeScott  Aug 22, 2014 11:55:56am

re: #482 wrenchwench

Thank you very much!


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