1 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 9:26:41pm

Powerfully good and non-hackneyed article by Matt Zoller Seitz at rogerebert.com on just what White privilege really means.

Different rules apply

2 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 9:27:15pm

“Profoundly Patronizing.”

This not lost on his audience.

3 simoom  Aug 21, 2014 9:29:59pm

Just like w/ Zimmerman it looks like Officer Wilson will receive crowd-funded donations in excess of $200K (currently at $191K after 4 days):

gofundme.com

The crowd funding site allows donors to leave comments, so some of that cash comes with the donor’s bigoted motives directly attached:

4 Dark_Falcon  Aug 21, 2014 9:32:44pm

Here’s a good piece by Ross Douthat in the New York Times on the conservative response to the Ferguson unrest. Because its not just what Fox News says; other conservative perspectives have been heard and Douthat links to many of them.

Here’s the piece:

The Conservative Divide Over Ferguson

No excerpt because the first 4 paragraphs are very heavy on links. But do give it a read with honest eyes.

5 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:33:07pm
Racial inequality and military toys

And I must add a highly cavalier attitude about deadly force and unarmed people or protesters. And especially the media intimidation and the NOTAM.
Firing tear gas and bean bags accurately enough to hit a news camera lens at some distance, but “accidentally” wind up in back yards of private property. Just a couple nights ago we had the sniper on the MRAP again.

6 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 9:34:48pm

re: #3 simoom


We got no-necked oilmen from Texas
And good ol’ boys from Tennessee
And college men from LSU
Went in dumb - come out dumb too

Randy Newman - Rednecks
Youtube Video

7 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2014 9:41:28pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a good piece by Ross Douthat in the New York Times on the conservative response to the Ferguson unrest. Because its not just what Fox News says; other conservative perspectives have been heard and Douthat links to many of them.

I got the feeling he laments the minority status of the sensible moderates more to himself than he wrote in this piece.

8 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:44:54pm

Last week, a kid up in Burnett County, NW of Austin got together at his dad’s house with a couple of buddies (the dad is a Constable) and dropped acid. Things got a little sideways and the son went out to his dad’s car, opened the trunk, pulled out his dad’s AR, loaded it up up, and shot his two friends because they were “acting weird”.

No shit, Sherlock. You were peaking. Everything is weird.

Question:

Why does a Constable in a rural county in Texas who may see a SWAT situation once in his career have an AR in the trunk of his car? Shouldn’t battle rifles be kept at the Cop Shop in the armory until needed?

Discuss!

9 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 9:48:21pm

re: #8 austin_blue

AR in the trunk of his car

Fashion.

10 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 21, 2014 9:50:37pm

re: #8 austin_blue

Keeping them in the squads is ok so far as it goes. Locked & sealed separate from everything else in the trunk though. Require turning in that key at shift end even if the sqad goes home would be good too.

11 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 9:55:00pm

re: #9 jaunte

Fashion.

Exactly! What could possibly go wrong when the vehicle is routinely out of your direct possession and control?

Oh, wait, your son is up on a capital murder charge! Bygones. Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster you were prepared to go mano a mano against the Symbionese Liberation Army if they attacked Bertram (population 2,500).

12 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 9:56:46pm

re: #11 austin_blue

“What, you don’t have your AR in the trunk? What kind of a man are you?”

13 OhNoZombies!  Aug 21, 2014 9:58:10pm

All guns should be locked up when not in use, especially if you have children, with the keys to the cabinet put away.
Period.

14 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 10:08:49pm

Most of the police cruisers around here carry some kind of rifle now, but they are kept in a locked gun box bolted to the trunk floor. I suppose that doesn’t help much if you leave the keys around where your kid can take them though.

I was told that the police are forbidden to have the gun box key on the same ring with the cruiser’s ignition key at least. Too many police cars have ended up being taken for joyrides/short lived escape attempts by perps.

15 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 10:13:23pm

re: #10 William Barnett-Lewis

Keeping them in the squads is ok so far as it goes. Locked & sealed separate from everything else in the trunk though. Require turning in that key at shift end even if the sqad goes home would be good too.

The problem is that cops used to be protectors and now see themselves as warriors against the very people they were trained (back in the day) to protect and to serve.

Their default attitude is to intimidate and suppress. The entire relationship between the police and the policed has gone topsy turvy. If you have body armor and battle rifles, the temptation is to use them to respond to any situation where any cop, in any possible situation, could be at risk.

Look, you understand ballistics. The kill shot on the kid entered the top of his head and exited his right eye. There is only one position he could have been in to receive that fatal shot, and that was curled up on his knees with his head tucked into his chest. That’s murder.

The Ferguson Police Department didn’t even file a fucking report and the shooter is in the wind.

We need to have a lot of discussions, here. About the relationship between the police and who they serve. About appropriate response. About respect. About power. About dignity. About justice and fairness.

The whole thing sucks.

16 jaunte  Aug 21, 2014 10:17:14pm
17 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 10:19:37pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Douthat wastes an awful lot of words to say that conservatives are divided and that nothing will change anytime soon.

18 Lidane  Aug 21, 2014 10:21:05pm

Also, the reader comment at the NYT raises a great point:

Ross, I am bewildered by your term “gradualist reformers”. Blacks in the US endured hundreds of years of slavery, which itself was outlawed one hundred forty nine years ago. They were then treated, not to equality or freedom, but to decades of Jim Crow. When Lyndon Johnson enacted civil rights legislation fifty years ago, conservatives changed parties to prevent it from becoming law. There still is no equality for people of color in America, be they African-American, Hispanic, Asian, or Native American.

The first slave was brought to American in 1619. That’s 395 years. Just how gradual do you conservatives need to be in your so-called reforms?

19 KiTA  Aug 21, 2014 10:25:34pm

So according to Missouri Law, even if WIlson killed the kid for no reason…

It doesn’t matter.

[W]e expect situations of justified violence and legal killing to be the rare exception, and most people would probably imagine that policemen and citizens raising claims of justifiable homicide must meet a substantive burden of proof. But in Missouri, these justifications barely require any evidence at all. […]
Instead, as long as there is a modicum of evidence and reasonable plausibility in support of a self-defense claim, a court must accept the claim and acquit the accused. The prosecution must not only prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime, but also disprove a defendant’s claim of self-defense to the same high standard. Under Missouri law, all a citizen claiming self-defense or a police officer claiming to have fired while pursuing a dangerous criminal need do is “inject the issue of justification.” In other words, he only needs to produce some evidence (his own testimony counts) supporting the claim. Once he does so, “any reasonable doubt on the issue requires a finding for the defendant.”

Basically, not only does the prosecution have to prove without a doubt that WIlson killed Brown, he has to DISPROVE without a doubt that it could possibly be self defense.

And NOW you know why they’re pushing the “Brown attacked Wilson” crap.

Edit: HT The Kos

20 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 10:35:43pm

re: #19 KiTA

So according to Missouri Law, even if WIlson killed the kid for no reason…

It doesn’t matter.

Basically, not only does the prosecution have to prove without a doubt that WIlson killed Brown, he has to DISPROVE without a doubt that it could possibly be self defense.

And NOW you know why they’re pushing the “Brown attacked Wilson” crap.

Edit: HT The Kos

I’ll repost, from above:

“Look, you understand ballistics. The kill shot on the kid entered the top of his head and exited his right eye. There is only one position he could have been in to receive that fatal shot, and that was curled up on his knees with his head tucked into his chest. That’s murder.”

That’s a QED, folks. Dead bang. An unarmed man on the ground is not a threat.

21 klys  Aug 21, 2014 10:37:59pm

re: #20 austin_blue

I’ll repost, from above:

“Look, you understand ballistics. The kill shot on the kid entered the top of his head and exited his right eye. There is only one position he could have been in to receive that fatal shot, and that was curled up on his knees with his head tucked into his chest. That’s murder.”

That’s a QED, folks. Dead bang. An unarmed man on the ground is not a threat.

I don’t think you’ll find many Lizards who disagree with that.

The problem is the reality of the likely makeup of the jury pool - and there are two of them to get through, including the grand jury where the testimony will be sealed and the prosecutor in question has made statements that could be construed as supporting the police in this case.

22 KiTA  Aug 21, 2014 10:39:09pm

re: #20 austin_blue

I’ll repost, from above:

“Look, you understand ballistics. The kill shot on the kid entered the top of his head and exited his right eye. There is only one position he could have been in to receive that fatal shot, and that was curled up on his knees with his head tucked into his chest. That’s murder.”

That’s a QED, folks. Dead bang. An unarmed man on the ground is not a threat.

“This drug addled thug was not on his knees. Officer Wilson, in fear for his life from a berserk criminal, shot one or two times more than needed. He was scared, after all his eyesocket was crushed in by this monster. And while this monster charged back at him, he fell forward, and the last shot or two hit this criminal in the top of the head as he toppled. If Officer Wilson is guilty of anything, it’s wasting Ammunition.”

Snark, of course. But I’m absolutely certain this is the defense they’re setting up through their PR department and their selective leaking to groups such as Dim Hoft.

23 simoom  Aug 21, 2014 10:41:26pm

re: #3 simoom

GoFundMe hides the donors’ bigoted comments but still allows their donations:

24 gwangung  Aug 21, 2014 10:42:14pm

re: #22 KiTA

“This drug addled thug was not on his knees. Officer Wilson, in fear for his life from a berserk criminal, shot one or two times more than needed. He was scared, after all his eyesocket was crushed in by this monster. And while this monster charged back at him, he fell forward, and the last shot or two hit this criminal in the top of the head as he toppled. If Officer Wilson is guilty of anything, it’s wasting Ammunition.”

Snark, of course. But I’m absolutely certain this is the defense they’re setting up through their PR department and their selective leaking to groups such as Dim Hoft.

If they try THAT approach, with any mention of eye socket damage or a charge, they’ll kill their own case. Too easy to impugn with simple physical evidence.

No, it’ll be more indirect and will rely on subjective judgements.

25 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 10:54:24pm

re: #20 austin_blue

I’ll repost, from above:

“Look, you understand ballistics. The kill shot on the kid entered the top of his head and exited his right eye.

Except that the bullet that hit the top of his head did not exit, Baden said the bullet that struck the crown of Michaels head traveled at slightly forward and rightwards angle somewhat towards the right eye socket. The bullet that hit next to his right eye was a different bullet altogether.

Baden said one bullet, which was likely the fatal shot, entered in the top of Brown’s skull. Another hit just above his right eye, exited near the eye, re-entered his face, exited near his jaw and then ended up in Brown’s upper chest or shoulder. Brown suffered four other gunshot wounds to his right arm and palm.

Still means that Michael’s head had to be tilted down at slightly more than a 90 degree angle (as if you were looking down at your toes) when the bullet struck. I dont think being on his knees is at all necessary for the trajectory as it was described as a “slightly forward angle.”

26 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 10:55:29pm

re: #23 simoom

GoFundMe hides the donors’ bigoted comments but still allows their donations:

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Too late, that stuff has been tweeted and retweeted everywhere already, idiots.

27 simoom  Aug 21, 2014 11:12:00pm

MSNBC reports on and links to Hoft’s disputed claim:

msnbc.com

The decision to not release those medical records, along with the lack of an incident report, has fueled speculation about the nature and extent of Wilson’s injuries. An anonymous source close to the police department told foxnews.com that Wilson’s face was “all swollen on one side” and that “he was beaten very severely,” echoing two other allegedly well-placed sources - also anonymous - quoted by a right-wing blog as saying Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.”

And no, qualifying a blog’s rumor with “allegedly” isn’t good enough. Journalists still have an obligation to do their own verification before spreading inflammatory hearsay.

28 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 11:17:45pm

re: #27 simoom

MSNBC reports on and links to Hoft’s disputed claim:

msnbc.com

And no, qualifying a blog’s rumor with “allegedly” isn’t good enough. Journalists still have an obligation to do their own verification before spreading inflammatory hearsay.

There is another problem with Hoft’s story, he claims to have been tipped by sources from the district attorneys office. Today the district attorneys office said they have not spoken to Wilson and have not been provided with his medical records yet.

29 austin_blue  Aug 21, 2014 11:23:55pm

re: #25 ausador

Except that the bullet that hit the top of his head did not exit, Baden said the bullet that struck the crown of Michaels head traveled at slightly forward and rightwards angle somewhat towards the right eye socket. The bullet that hit next to his right eye was a different bullet altogether.

Still means that Michael’s head had to be tilted down at slightly more than a 90 degree angle (as if you were looking down at your toes) when the bullet struck. I dont think being on his knees is at all necessary for the trajectory as it was described as a “slightly forward angle.”

I’ll make a bet with you. When the Feds get done with their autopsy, they will find that the bullet that entered the top of Brown’s head and exited his eye socket struck the pavement and entered his right jaw. The entrance wound on his head will be circular. The entrance wound on on his jaw will be a “spang” wound with a central core surrounded by fragments.

The bullet that exited his eye blew his eyeball out according to the coroner’s drawing (at least appears so, that dashed line with the dangly bit usually means exactly that). And if he was rushing the cop, where is the first bullet that entered his head? It didn’t exit? Where is it?

Again, the salient factor is that the FPD didn’t file a report and the shooter is in the wind.

30 Gus  Aug 21, 2014 11:42:00pm
31 ausador  Aug 21, 2014 11:43:14pm

re: #29 austin_blue

His head was down for whatever reason, be it that he was charging, bent over, falling over, or simply looking down. The bullet struck his forehead above his eyebrow on an angle almost parallel to the front of his skull. The bullet entered his skin, went under his eyebrow exited the top of the eye socket, entered his cheek, exited his jaw, and then struck and came to rest in the shoulder/chest near the base of his neck.

The line connects the holes to show the path of the bullet, just like the line from the upper arm wound to the side of the chest does the same thing there.

The bullet that hit the top of his head DID NOT exit!
(where is it? In evidence after being removed by the county coroner)

Go watch the video of the press conference again, please?

Why are you making up elaborate theories instead of taking the word of a national recognized pathologist that was hired by the family to find the truth?

32 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 21, 2014 11:47:55pm

re: #8 austin_blue

Why does a Constable in a rural county in Texas who may see a SWAT situation once in his career have an AR in the trunk of his car? Shouldn’t battle rifles be kept at the Cop Shop in the armory until needed?

Discuss!

Because Second Amendment and God Given Right, you dumbf*ck liberal

/

33 Gus  Aug 22, 2014 12:12:44am
34 ausador  Aug 22, 2014 12:26:23am

re: #33 Gus

Gus @Gus_802

No. @latimes

Why not? It worked out so well when St. Reagan did it, remember? ///

Seriously though, the only thing that will do is start a middle-eastern kidnap for ransom cabal. When they know 100% that the U.S. will not negotiate it actually helps to protect our people from being snatched in the first place.

35 KiTA  Aug 22, 2014 1:20:50am

So that was fun. Got trailed around Fred Meyers while I was shopping. Guess showing up at 10:30 PM annoys certain people, heh.

36 freetoken  Aug 22, 2014 3:12:18am
37 S'latch  Aug 22, 2014 3:46:11am

Ferguson itself is a giant civil rights violation. I want to see some federal judges doing some protesting in Ferguson soon.

38 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 4:12:10am

Huh?

39 Dark_Falcon  Aug 22, 2014 4:33:13am

re: #8 austin_blue

Last week, a kid up in Burnett County, NW of Austin got together at his dad’s house with a couple of buddies (the dad is a Constable) and dropped acid. Things got a little sideways and the son went out to his dad’s car, opened the trunk, pulled out his dad’s AR, loaded it up up, and shot his two friends because they were “acting weird”.

No shit, Sherlock. You were peaking. Everything is weird.

Question:

Why does a Constable in a rural county in Texas who may see a SWAT situation once in his career have an AR in the trunk of his car? Shouldn’t battle rifles be kept at the Cop Shop in the armory until needed?

Discuss!

Well, Texas does have feral hogs and big pigs can be dangerous. There can also be coyotes, in this case the animal. The human form of the word ‘coyote’, meaning someone who smuggles in people, can also be a threat near the border.

Lastly, there is the fact that a rural cop who gets caught in a bad situation may have to hold out for a good while before help arrives. For that reason, he may well need a semi-auto rifle to be available.

40 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 22, 2014 4:54:30am

re: #8 austin_blue

Last week, a kid up in Burnett County, NW of Austin got together at his dad’s house with a couple of buddies (the dad is a Constable) and dropped acid. Things got a little sideways and the son went out to his dad’s car, opened the trunk, pulled out his dad’s AR, loaded it up up, and shot his two friends because they were “acting weird”.

No shit, Sherlock. You were peaking. Everything is weird.

Question:

Why does a Constable in a rural county in Texas who may see a SWAT situation once in his career have an AR in the trunk of his car? Shouldn’t battle rifles be kept at the Cop Shop in the armory until needed?

Discuss!

Could have killed them just as easy with a handgun.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 4:57:36am
42 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 4:57:39am

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Well, Texas does have feral hogs and big pigs can be dangerous. There can also be coyotes, in this case the animal. The human form of the word ‘coyote’, meaning someone who smuggles in people, can also be a threat near the border.

Lastly, there is the fact that a rural cop who gets caught in a bad situation may have to hold out for a good while before help arrives. For that reason, he may well need a semi-auto rifle to be available.

They can also act as a deterrence, someone who is barricaded in a house or car and sees a shotgun or assault rifle pointed in their direction might think twice before doing something stupider.

One police officer that I know has made the pointed repeatedly about how intimidating the racking of a shotgun can be and how it can deescalate a situation quickly.

43 A Mom Anon  Aug 22, 2014 5:01:27am

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

1) A cop SHOULD be functioning and held to a higher standard than those they are supposed to be serving and protecting. So, where the hell was this guy when his kid and friends were dropping acid and acting stupid? Anyone who leaves any firearm within such easy reach of anyone else is too much of a fool to own a weapon. Seriously, on acid the kid would have had to have already known how to access that weapon, I’d guess it wasn’t the first time. It’s just that this time two people are dead.

2)My grandfather was a cop in a rural town for 30 years. He was also a hunter. He had no less than a dozen different types of firearms in his home the entire time I was growing up. He had 14 grandkids. NEVER was there a firearm within reach of one of us the entire time I was growing up. NEVER. Unless one of us went hunting with him. And even then, there was a big freaking set of rules to follow. Break the rules, your ass was in trouble and you never went with him again. Period.

3)That small town my grandpa was a cop in also never had one incident where he needed an AR or anything similar. For feral animals he used a shotgun, just like every other farmer around him did. There were coyotes and bears around, and no one ever was hurt by one of them.

This need to arm ourselves to the teeth is based on fear and in some cases fear and anger. When you’re scared and pissed off there’s no way in hell you make good decisions. I don’t care how manly or “together” you think you are.

44 sagehen  Aug 22, 2014 5:01:28am

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Well, Texas does have feral hogs and big pigs can be dangerous. There can also be coyotes, in this case the animal. The human form of the word ‘coyote’, meaning someone who smuggles in people, can also be a threat near the border.

Lastly, there is the fact that a rural cop who gets caught in a bad situation may have to hold out for a good while before help arrives. For that reason, he may well need a semi-auto rifle to be available.

The cop who responded at the Sikh Temple (Minnesota?) had an AR in his trunk; it turned out to be useful.

(Which doesn’t in any way excuse the guy in this Texas story not keeping his car properly locked.)

45 A Mom Anon  Aug 22, 2014 5:04:42am

Crap. I’m off to go get the kid and then to the hospital. Call just came that they’re moving my friend to hospice in the hospital today and he probably won’t make it through the weekend. Sorry to join the conversation and run, but I’ve got a couple hundred miles of driving total to do today.

Be kind to one another, even if you disagree. Seriously, you never know what moment might be your last. Leave a good legacy. Later lizards.

46 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 5:05:46am

I wonder if the jurors are believing any of the bullshit coming out of Bob McDonnell and his defense team.

You’re marriage was so bad that you had no problem going on vacation with wife to a property owned by the guy you claimed you knew your wife had a crush on?

You had no problem asking your wife to ask her paramour to leave his Ferrari at the house so you could drive it back to Richmond?

If your marriage was so bad, why did you have no problems staying in car with her for that long either?

Before you ran for Governor, you didn’t sit down with her and talk about whether she was supportive of you running and being Governor for four years?

47 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 5:12:37am

So, I like listening to Die Antwoord, whose lyrics are both weird and violent.
Youtube Video
I guess I’m a thug and I don’t even know what should be done to those Die Antwoord deviants. ////

48 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 5:14:21am

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Well, Texas does have feral hogs and big pigs can be dangerous. There can also be coyotes, in this case the animal. The human form of the word ‘coyote’, meaning someone who smuggles in people, can also be a threat near the border.

Lastly, there is the fact that a rural cop who gets caught in a bad situation may have to hold out for a good while before help arrives. For that reason, he may well need a semi-auto rifle to be available.

Another reason for the issuing of assault rifles to patrol officers is the switch from containment and the calling of SWAT (or other applicable team) to “active shooter” operations where patrol officers are expected to enter a situation immediately to prevent further lost of life.

49 Fineday  Aug 22, 2014 5:14:30am

{{{A Mom Anon}}}

50 Shvaughn  Aug 22, 2014 5:17:30am

Lovely 4chan people.

51 S'latch  Aug 22, 2014 5:35:18am

It just reeks that two-thirds of the people in Ferguson are black, and yet there are only four or five African Americans on the police force. Civil Rights prosecutors would have to prove that Darren Wilson intentionally targeted Michael Brown because of he was black. But it appears on the face of it that entire police force of Ferguson is intentionally targeting the entire African American population of Ferguson.

52 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 5:38:57am
53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 5:39:36am

re: #51 S’latch

It just reeks that two-thirds of the people in Ferguson are black, and yet there are only four or five African Americans on the police force. Civil Rights prosecutors would have to prove that Darren Wilson intentionally targeted Michael Brown because of he was black. But it appears on the face of it that entire police force of Ferguson is intentionally targeting the entire African American population of Ferguson.

I think the angle to tackle the problem is not to focus on Wilson & Brown, but rather the entire department and its information policies and reporting.

54 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 5:43:19am
Charles Johnson, over at Little Green Footballs has been doggedly following the bs for days. He raised the issue “If Darren Wilson Was “Savagely Beaten,” Why Did Neighbors See Him Mowing His Lawn Just a Few Days Later?” and has followed the altered, falsely presented “CT” Scan, (generic photo from Univ. of Iowa and NOT Darren Wilson’s) touted by “Dumbest Man on the Internet”, Jim Hoft.

dailykos.com

LGF is good at exposing fakes :)

55 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 5:44:32am

There does not have to be proof of racism by Wilson: the key issue is whether it was a justified shoot or non-sanctioned shooting. Motive is supplemental. If there is institutional racism that had a hand in Brown’s death, that does not need to be proven for Wilson to be found guilty of Brown’s death.

The real institutional racism was the repeated and compounding actions of the Ferguson PD in the immediate aftermath, hours, and days after the shoot.

56 S'latch  Aug 22, 2014 5:56:37am

re: #55 Ryan King

You’re right. The racism does not have to be proven for a civil rights violation. Wilson violated Mr. Brown’s civil rights when he shot him dead in a public street for no good reason. I want to see Wilson prosecuted and the claim made.

57 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 22, 2014 6:05:15am

OTOH-Two San Bernardino police officers came under fire this morning, including one officer who was shot in the head, 5 people arrested and at least two guns. One assault rifle with high cap magazines attached.

The officer who was shot is in surgery this moment, “grave condition”.

58 S'latch  Aug 22, 2014 6:05:43am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I don’t think it is wrong to focus on Wilson and Brown. The case is an example of the result of institutional racism. It is important for the result to be prosecuted to effect a change in the cause.

59 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 6:06:29am

I suspect that Wilson may have some anger issues. Maybe there was a touch of racism but two key points:

1. Wilson allegedly said ‘get the fuck on the sideway’ when he drove up on Brown and Johnson.

2. Wilson allegedly fired at Brown as Brown was running away, and continued firing at Brown as he was stopping and allegedly yielding.

This applies to character and a rage based motive. Proving racism as a motive is probably futile but proving rage or anger is very plausible.

This is my current opinion that may change with further information. Hopefully the facts of the case will all come out.

60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 6:06:59am

re: #56 S’latch

You’re right. The racism does not have to be proven for a civil rights violation. Wilson violated Mr. Brown’s civil rights when he shot him dead in a public street for no good reason. I want to see Wilson prosecuted and the claim made.

I also want to see the FPD taken to task for its handling of the case.

61 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 22, 2014 6:07:13am

Good morning lizards!

I saw the sad news this morning about Mythbusters. I wish them best of luck…

62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 6:08:27am

re: #58 S’latch

I don’t think it is wrong to focus on Wilson and Brown. The case is an example of the result of institutional racism. It is important for the result to be prosecuted to effect a change in the cause.

Problem is, the FPD has all but seen to it that there is enough “reasonable doubt” to preclude a conviction should it even come to a trial.

And that in itself is one of the chief causes of the situation in Ferguson: the way the PD handled it.

63 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 6:08:41am

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

I hadn’t heard about that so I Googled and found this story from CBS Los Angeles:

An assault revolver with high-capacity magazines and a revolver were recovered at the scene.

What the fraking frak is an “assault revolver” and how does a revolver have a magazine, high-capacity or not?

64 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 6:08:51am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

The right wing continues trying to play the Hoft lie for all it’s worth. Somehow CNN’s reporting with anonymous sources isn’t as persuasive as Hoft’s invented sources.

In fact, considering that the Washington Post reports that the prosecutors haven’t spoken to Wilson, let alone received his medical records, that should categorically and emphatically expose the lie that Hoft spread. But people who think Wilson was justified in killing Brown will continue spreading this across twitter and filling up comments arguing that Wilson feared for his life, suffered all kinds of injuries, and yet managed to put a tightly bunched set of rounds into Brown, killing him.

65 Dr Lizardo  Aug 22, 2014 6:10:09am

re: #63 Timothy Watson

I hadn’t heard about that so I Googled and found this story from CBS Los Angeles:

What the fraking frak is an “assault revolver” and how does a revolver have a magazine, high-capacity or not?

A typo, most likely.

66 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 22, 2014 6:11:02am

re: #63 Timothy Watson

I hadn’t heard about that so I Googled and found this story from CBS Los Angeles:

What the fraking frak is an “assault revolver” and how does a revolver have a magazine, high-capacity or not?

Bad reporting, I heard a presser. Two guns, one revolver.

67 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 6:13:44am

re: #58 S’latch

I don’t think it is wrong to focus on Wilson and Brown. The case is an example of the result of institutional racism. It is important for the result to be prosecuted to effect a change in the cause.

The act of Brown being shot is probably not institutional racism though it may have contributed. But that doesn’t need to be and probably can’t be proven in a court. Institution racism doesn’t need to be proven for Wilson to be found guilty of Brown’s non-justified death.

However, just about every other thing the Ferguson PD and right wing media has done since the moment Brown died reeks of institutional racism. That case will be held in the court of public opinion. I hope justice is served there.

68 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 6:14:15am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

A typo, most likely.

re: #66 Rightwingconspirator

Bad reporting, I heard a presser. Two guns, one revolver.

If we work at it we can make sense of it.

A really competent waitress should make more money than an incompetent reporter.

69 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 22, 2014 6:15:35am

re: #63 Timothy Watson

I hadn’t heard about that so I Googled and found this story from CBS Los Angeles:

What the fraking frak is an “assault revolver” and how does a revolver have a magazine, high-capacity or not?

That’s why I take any working blogger or journo that wants to go out for an observation or shooting session so they can learn the basics and set aside Hollywood myths. Factual outreach.

One suspect is dead, four more in custody. The whole thing is being described as a fierce gun battle. It is said they came under immediate fire on neighborhood patrol.

71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 6:17:23am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I also want to see the FPD taken to task for its handling of the case.

People should be in prison over this, but if it’s such a high hurdle to even try Wilson, who would lift a finger to pursue a case against the FPD over a “secondary” matter such as this? And if PDs are not punished for mishandling, this only leads to more lawlessness.

72 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 6:17:50am

re: #69 Rightwingconspirator

That’s why I take any working blogger or journo that wants to go out for an observation or shooting session so they can learn the basics and set aside Hollywood myths. Factual outreach.

One suspect is dead, four more in custody. The whole thing is being described as a fierce gun battle. It is said they came under immediate fire on neighborhood patrol.

It doesn’t go that deep. The report works if the first ‘revolver’ is read as ‘rifle’. The reporter/editor aren’t ignorant about guns, they’re ignorant about proofreading.

73 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 6:19:06am

OT: I saw several people last night criticizing the St. Louis police officers for handcuffing the dead suspect whom they had shot, but didn’t get a chance to respond to the multiple comments before going to bed.

Aside from any problems with the shooting, it’s standard police procedure to handcuff any incapacitated (or dead) suspect who is shot by police, simply to eliminate any possibility of the suspect only having been stunned or possibly having been wearing body armor, etc.

74 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 6:21:17am

re: #73 Timothy Watson

OT: I saw several people last night criticizing the St. Louis police officers for handcuffing the dead suspect whom they had shot, but didn’t get a chance to respond to the multiple comments before going to bed.

Aside from any problems with the shooting, it’s standard police procedure to handcuff any incapacitated (or dead) suspect who is shot by police, simply to eliminate any possibility of the suspect only having been stunned or possibly having been wearing body armor, etc.

It’s nice to see Missouri cops have such deep commitment to procedure.

75 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 6:21:34am

re: #71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The federal civil rights actions will likely involve Wilson, the police department, and possibly the elected officials, depending on what the investigators find at each step of the process.

If they find systemic problems with civil rights violations in Ferguson, the options may be a lawsuit (which most jurisdictions simply can’t afford to defend) or they’ll force the town to agree to a consent decree, which gives the federals oversight on reforming the department, rules, practices, etc.

Reform is clearly needed in Ferguson. The question is whether the reform must include essentially removing everyone from the chief on down.

A separate question, and separate investigation, should also be addressing the actions of the STL County Police, whose officers were those in the riot gear and riding the armored vehicles in the early stages of the protests, and some of whose officers have shown a stunning lack of respect for the protesters, and who had no issue aiming their loaded rifles at unarmed protesters - both to intimidate and to threaten.

76 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 6:22:15am

re: #71 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And if PDs are not punished for mishandling, this only leads to more lawlessness.

Which is why the Ferguson PD should see some serious consequences from this affair.

77 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 6:23:33am

I just coined the term ‘Sorbonic’

78 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 6:24:07am

re: #74 Decatur Deb

It’s nice to see Missouri cops have such deep commitment to procedure.

I would say it has more to do with training.

79 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 6:25:05am

re: #78 Timothy Watson

I would say it has more to do with training.

Sarc tags are beneath me.

80 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 6:27:08am

re: #77 Ryan King

This is the most attention Kevin Sorbo has gotten in years.

He needs to STFU and fade back into obscurity.

81 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 6:28:04am

I f*cking love John Oliver. It is true, everything does sound better with a British accent!

82 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 6:29:52am

re: #74 Decatur Deb

It’s nice to see Missouri cops have such deep selective commitment to procedure.

There.

83 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 6:30:28am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Sarc tags are beneath me.

I never said that their training was consistent with federal and state law.

But if you’ve trained for (several) weeks to do y following x in a shooting situation, usually that training does get activated regardless of adrenaline, etc.

Otherwise, what’s the point of training soldiers, Marines, etc. what to do when they’ll being shot at?

84 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 6:31:24am
85 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 22, 2014 6:32:45am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Sarc tags are beneath me.

That spilled a little coffee.
Me too, down on the left.
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Good morning. Sucks for my first comment to be another police shooting tragedy. This one looks at first glimpse like an ambush. Training officer out with a rookie. I think it is the senior officer (6 years) that was shot twice.

86 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 6:32:53am

re: #80 Lidane

This is the most attention Kevin Sorbo has gotten in years.

He needs to STFU and fade back into obscurity.

He is really concerned with looters. With dead black kids shot by cops and institutionalized racism, not so much.

87 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 6:41:53am

This story is a few days old, but Gawker’s headline is funny:

88 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 6:44:35am

Rightwing radio has really lost their shit over Ferguson.

When it’s not that important and ‘media created,’ it’s ‘what about black on black crime’ and liberals are the real racists.

Snake oil salesmen to the ignorati.

89 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 6:46:39am
90 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 6:53:01am

Glenn has a sad that social media removed all the ISIS death porn:

91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 6:55:18am

re: #90 Pie-onist Overlord

Should Twitter, Facebook and Google Executives be the Arbiters of What We See and Read?

Despite their iconic status, Twitter FB and Google are private businesses. The people running them have the right to edit or restrict content and we have the right to use alternative means of communicating.

92 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 6:58:01am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Should Twitter, Facebook and Google Executives be the Arbiters of What We See and Read?

Despite their iconic status, Twitter FB and Google are private businesses. The people running them have the right to edit or restrict content and we have the right to use alternative means of communicating.

And despite what Glenn thinks, the families of the deceased have rights too. They have the right to not have their loved one’s murder being freely shared for everyone to see. Twitter, FB, and Google are right to remove it even if folks don’t like that.

93 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 6:58:33am

re: #90 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

BUT, BUT, BUT, FORST AMMENDMENT!!!!!
BUT, BUT, BUT, FORST AMMENDMENT!!!!!

94 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 6:58:45am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Should Twitter, Facebook and Google Executives be the Arbiters of What We See and Read?

Glenn Greenwald wants to be the final arbiter of everything we see & read. He does not like competition.

95 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 6:59:31am

Dream on, Dim.

96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 7:01:04am

re: #95 Kid A

Dream on, Dim.

People of integrity expect to be believed. And when they’re not, they let time prove them right

People of integrity behave with integrity: they release full and consistent reports and do not rely on leaked information and obfustication to cover their asses.

97 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:01:51am

re: #95 Kid A

Malicious smearmonger says what?

If he had integrity, he’d pay up to Wonkette.

98 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:02:10am

re: #95 Kid A

Dream on, Dim.

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That’s assuming you have integrity, Jim, you have shown time and time again that you lack it.

99 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 7:03:13am

re: #97 lawhawk

Malicious smearmonger says what?

If he had integrity, he’d pay up to Wonkette.

This forever.

100 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:05:42am

re: #92 Lidane

And despite what Glenn thinks, the families of the deceased have rights too. They have the right to not have their loved one’s murder being freely shared for everyone to see. Twitter, FB, and Google are right to remove it even if folks don’t like that.

Precisely.

101 Schadenboner  Aug 22, 2014 7:07:51am

re: #92 Lidane

And despite what Glenn thinks, the families of the deceased have rights too. They have the right to not have their loved one’s murder being freely shared for everyone to see. Twitter, FB, and Google are right to remove it even if folks don’t like that.

Where oh where is the rightist’s concern for “victim rights” (their usual phrase to gut the judicial system of whatever due process rights remains) now?

102 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:08:34am
103 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:09:52am

re: #101 Schadenboner, Inc.

Where oh where is the rightist’s concern for “victim rights” (their usual phrase to gut the judicial system of whatever due process rights remains) now?

Anti-Muslim agitation matters more on this day. But really, why do people need to see the Foley photos? If his family doesn’t want them released to the public, they have every right to object to that. And if some rightist asshole is upset because it won’t let him get his anti-Muslim hard on, tough shit.

104 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:10:50am

I am just still dumbfounded and amazed that Ferguson PD didn’t even file a report about Michael Brown’s death. There’s something deeply wrong with that police department.

105 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 7:11:33am

Who is Hoft quoting in that tweet?

Also, here is a bitly shorturl for fun (bit.ly / smoti)

bit.ly

106 Dr Lizardo  Aug 22, 2014 7:15:03am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

I am just still dumbfounded and amazed that Ferguson PD didn’t even file a report about Michael Brown’s death. There’s something deeply wrong with that police department.

Filing an incident report when a police officer uses deadly force is SOP for cops the world over - from the US, to the UK, to Germany, to Japan, to the Czech Republic, to China. Failure to do so typically results in serious disciplinary action. Which tells me something is very wrong at the Ferguson PD.

107 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:15:27am

re: #105 Franklin

Good question. Not entirely clear. Which is par for the course with Hoft.

108 darthstar  Aug 22, 2014 7:17:23am

Did you write the report?
No, I thought you were writing it.
I’m not writing it. I didn’t shoot the kid.
Story’s big now…out of our jurisdiction.

109 Schadenboner  Aug 22, 2014 7:17:48am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Anti-Muslim agitation matters more on this day. But really, why do people need to see the Foley photos? If his family doesn’t want them released to the public, they have every right to object to that. And if some rightist asshole is upset because it won’t let him get his anti-Muslim hard on, tough shit.

Fuck. I thought this was Michael Brown-related. Apologies. Need coffee.

The Foley shit should be a matter of common fucking decency. But, you know, Fox.

110 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:18:16am

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

Filing an incident report when a police officer uses deadly force is SOP for cops the world over - from the US, to the UK, to Germany, to Japan, to the Czech Republic, to China. Failure to do so typically results in serious disciplinary action. Which tells me something is very wrong at the Ferguson PD.

I really don’t know what DOJ’s investigation is going to turn up but this PD feels like one of those good old boy departments from the age of Jim Crow.

111 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:19:28am

re: #109 Schadenboner, Inc.

Fuck. I thought this was Michael Brown-related. Apologies. Need coffee.

The Foley shit should be a matter of common fucking decency. But, you know, Fox.

Yeah Fox totally lacking any decency and also having their sister affiliates in the UK hack the cell phones of murder victims. I mean it’s one thing to be partisan hacks to stir up shit, it’s another to be outright ghouls as Murdoch and his cohorts are.

112 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 7:20:39am

re: #107 lawhawk

Good question. Not entirely clear. Which is par for the course with Hoft.

Ahh, so he’s using inspirational messages.

How about this one Jim:

Hang in there, Dimmy!

113 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:21:26am

I’d like a Wilson apologist to tell me if Wilson was as seriously hurt as Hoft claims or that Brown “bum-rushed” Wilson to explain why no report was written. Seems to me that they either are incredibly incompetent there- unlikely IMO, I think something far more malicious is at work here unfortunately.

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 7:23:01am

*SETS DESK ON FIRE*
*HURLS IT OUT THE WINDOW*

115 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:23:15am

Even if FPD didn’t assume the investigation, and it was going to be done by the STL County Police, there should be records of the FPD incident report.

You know, indicating the who, what, when, where, why, and how of the incident, and that it was indeed transferred.

That they can’t even produce this basic information is quite telling. It also explains the stonewalling previously - that they didn’t even engage in basic police work.

It also fits in with the investigation into a shooting that occurred during the protests. No one can seem to find any of the evidence that was gathered, let alone the police reports. The police are unconcerned about a shooting that occurred during the protests injuring a protester. Ferguson PD haven’t bothered to interview her, and the local media hasn’t gotten any better response from the police either:

Aaten-White has since been sent home. Her attorney apparently hasn’t been able to find out anything about the incident either. He told the paper there doesn’t even seem to be a file or a report on record with the Ferguson police department. And the Riverfront Times had no better luck at getting answers.

116 Varek Raith  Aug 22, 2014 7:23:59am

I’m going to buy a boat load of desks to sell to a certain LGF member.
;)

117 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:24:15am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

*SETS DESK ON FIRE*
*HURLS IT OUT THE WINDOW*

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He’s not going to stop is he? (rhetorical question)

118 Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2014 7:24:18am
119 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:24:42am

re: #116 Varek Raith

I’m going to buy a boat load of desks to sell to a certain LGF member.
;)

Desk sales and lighter/matches sales are through the roofs. Invest in bic.

120 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:24:57am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

Four sources, each of which is essentially referring back to…. Hoft. There’s no independent confirmation.

The prosecutor’s office categorically stated they have not seen Wilson’s medical records, let alone a CT scan.

121 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 7:25:30am

re: #116 Varek Raith

I’m going to buy a boat load of desks to sell to a certain LGF member.
;)

The desk landed on top of all the other burning desks that my boss has flung out the window since we upgraded the system. There were some users tied to them.

122 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:25:46am

I think they honestly thought they could get away with it. That’s how I feel. Who knows what kind of shit this police department has been doing for years and getting away with it.

123 Varek Raith  Aug 22, 2014 7:26:23am

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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That’s special.
Just. Special.

124 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:26:57am
125 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:29:09am

So where’s Sean Hannity to admonish Jim for not letting both stories come out? Oh right, he’s probably doing a morning cocktail with his racist buddy Mark Fuhrman.

126 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 7:30:04am

re: #118 Charles Johnson

So Dim’s bright idea of a new source is another website quoting him?

127 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:30:36am

re: #126 Lidane

So Dim’s bright idea of a new source is another website quoting him?

He’s not called The Dumbest Man on the Internet for nothing.

128 Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2014 7:30:36am
129 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 7:31:59am

Not important, but still interesting: both images of the CT scan are still online:

Image: xcranial-.jpg.pagespeed.ic.C_KRI12tTb.jpg

Image: xorbital-blowout.jpg.pagespeed.ic._KoJ9d5YxA.jpg

131 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:35:14am

He’s done what he set out to which was ruin any reasonable chance of trying the case in St. Louis County. His next step will be to fuel the anti-fed bullshit once DOJ starts investigating FPD and the case. Can Lawhawk or someone help me out here though? Is what he did criminal or subject perhaps to a civil penalty for spreading something that it seems to me that he knew to be blatantly false.

132 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:36:24am

re: #130 Lidane

Hey Reince — how’s that GOP rebranding workin’ out for ya?

AZ GOP Candidate Suggests Migrant Children Could Spread Ebola

Rand Paul Endorses Bill To End Deportation Relief For Dreamers

GOP Committeewoman Warns Child Migrants ‘Highly Trained As Warriors,’ Could ‘Rise Up Against Us As Americans’

Reince don’t care. But damn that’s some grade A derp right there and Rand Paul again shows why he’s a pathetic fraud.

133 WhatEVs  Aug 22, 2014 7:36:25am

re: #73 Timothy Watson

OT: I saw several people last night criticizing the St. Louis police officers for handcuffing the dead suspect whom they had shot, but didn’t get a chance to respond to the multiple comments before going to bed.

Aside from any problems with the shooting, it’s standard police procedure to handcuff any incapacitated (or dead) suspect who is shot by police, simply to eliminate any possibility of the suspect only having been stunned or possibly having been wearing body armor, etc.

I was one of those people. Thanks for clearing that up.

It doesn’t make me feel any better, though.

134 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:36:55am

Ferguson PD never filed the incident report because it was immediately turned over to the county police to investigate.

Chief Jackson had indicated that the county police would be doing the investigation, but that doesn’t excuse why they were tight lipped on any and all information about the shooting.

And the county police’s response through this all has been as bad or worse than Ferguson’s. They’re the ones who brought in the riot police and armored vehicles. They’re the ones who began pointing loaded sniper rifles at protesters. They’re the ones who were inviting violence and acting more belligerent than the protesters themselves.

135 Varek Raith  Aug 22, 2014 7:37:02am

Highly trained child ebola warriors!

136 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:39:28am

If I’m a prominent Democrat, I’m trolling the GOP by pointing out that their last decent president, Ford welcomed in many fleeing Vietnamese refugees after the fall of Saigon. Really GOP, you’re going to find out with Hispanics the same thing you found out with African-Americans that people will remember how nasty you are. Enjoy eventually being a regional party whose only appeal is to greedy old bigots.

137 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 7:39:54am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Is what he did criminal or subject perhaps to a civil penalty for spreading something that it seems to me that he knew to be blatantly false.

I’m not a lawyer, so take this with a boulder of salt, but I think it depends on the source for all his claims. If Hoft really did get all this stuff from someone inside the prosecutor’s office, then someone in that office is deliberately trying to ratfuck the case, especially now that the ZOMG BROKEN EYEBALL bullshit has been debunked. That sounds like it could be some sort of obstruction of justice, but I don’t know for sure.

138 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 7:41:54am

re: #134 lawhawk

Ferguson PD never filed the incident report because it was immediately turned over to the county police to investigate.

Chief Jackson had indicated that the county police would be doing the investigation, but that doesn’t excuse why they were tight lipped on any and all information about the shooting.

And the county police’s response through this all has been as bad or worse than Ferguson’s. They’re the ones who brought in the riot police and armored vehicles. They’re the ones who began pointing loaded sniper rifles at protesters. They’re the ones who were inviting violence and acting more belligerent than the protesters themselves.

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but shouldn’t the Ferguson PD had started an administrative investigation to see if any policies or procedures were violated even if the shooting was in accordance with statutory law?

139 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 7:42:03am

Bryan has submitted his application already

140 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:42:13am

re: #137 Lidane

I’m not a lawyer, so take this with a boulder of salt, but I think it depends on the source for all his claims. If Hoft really did get all this stuff from someone inside the prosecutor’s office, then someone in that office is deliberately trying to ratfuck the case, especially now that the ZOMG BROKEN EYEBALL bullshit has been debunked. That sounds like it could be some sort of obstruction of justice, but I don’t know for sure.

Gotcha. I too would be interested in knowing where he’s getting this from.

141 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:43:14am

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan has submitted his application already

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Bryan’s just upset that it’s not a leap year and he couldn’t be stranger 366.

142 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 7:43:42am

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan has submitted his application already

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Application? I bet it’s Fischer himself./

143 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 7:45:32am
144 Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2014 7:45:57am
145 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 7:46:07am

I so want somebody to create the Gay Bryan Fischer spoof Twitter account. It would post things about being kind to your neighbor, not judging unless you want to be judged, helping the poor, etc.

146 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:46:38am

re: #144 Charles Johnson

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Frankly, that’s even more disturbing to me than him outright making it up.

147 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 7:47:00am

re: #144 Charles Johnson

If they are, I’d imagine the DOJ would be very interested in knowing his source.

148 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 7:47:11am

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft is repeating his claim that the St. Louis County Prosecutor’s office is leaking info to him

Wake up, Dim. Your wet dream is over…

149 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:47:13am

re: #145 Pie-onist Overlord

I so want somebody to create the Gay Bryan Fischer spoof Twitter account. It would post things about being kind to your neighbor, not judging unless you want to be judged, helping the poor, etc.

It sounds time consuming but it would be hilarious.

150 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:47:56am

If they’re leaking to him. It’s definitely time for McCullouch to remove himself.

151 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 7:50:13am

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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re: #126 Lidane

So Dim’s bright idea of a new source is another website quoting him?

Circle Derp

152 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 7:51:44am
153 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 7:52:35am

Pass me another desk & the lighter fluid. Kthxbai.

154 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:53:14am

re: #152 Franklin

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Somehow I imagine the people who are condemning the Ferguson protesters see the people who were protesting in what became the Boston Massacre as the finest patriots.

155 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 7:53:33am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Hoft would likely try to claim that he’s a journalist and merely repeating what someone inside the prosecutor’s office relayed to him. Investigators would want that person - and Hoft would have to give that person up or likely see obstruction charges on that investigation.

The person inside the prosecutor’s office would potentially face a possible charges relating to hindering an ongoing prosecution (the Brown killing) by leaking bogus details in an attempt to taint a potential jury pool.

But given the way the FPD and STL County police have handled things, don’t expect either of these to happen.

The MO charge manual (starting page 48) lays out the various charges that could be involved.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2014 7:53:50am

re: #153 Pie-onist Overlord

Pass me another desk & the lighter fluid. Kthxbai.

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That’s “award-winning journalist”…and “well fed journalists steal his stuff”.

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157 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 22, 2014 7:53:53am

re: #153 Pie-onist Overlord

Sry, you should recycle your desks from now on /

158 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:54:06am

re: #153 Pie-onist Overlord

Pass me another desk & the lighter fluid. Kthxbai.

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Gee Jim, why not dig Michael’s body up so you can piss on it again. Unbelievable how callous this asshole is.

159 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 7:54:40am

re: #153 Pie-onist Overlord

Pass me another desk & the lighter fluid. Kthxbai.

Reporter Sues St. Louis County Court for Michael Brown’s Juvenile Arrest Record

That’s “Award-wining Reporter”, if you please.

160 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:54:47am

re: #155 lawhawk

Hoft would likely try to claim that he’s a journalist and merely repeating what someone inside the prosecutor’s office relayed to him. Investigators would want that person - and Hoft would have to give that person up or likely see obstruction charges on that investigation.

The person inside the prosecutor’s office would potentially face a possible charges relating to hindering an ongoing prosecution (the Brown killing) by leaking bogus details in an attempt to taint a potential jury pool.

But given the way the FPD and STL County police have handled things, don’t expect either of these to happen.

The MO charge manual (starting page 48) lays out the various charges that could be involved.

Thanks that does make sense.

161 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:55:29am

BREAKING: Jim hoft still a pathetic wingnut asshole who goes out of his way to justify murder.

162 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 7:55:51am

re: #118 Charles Johnson

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I think that is called a Circle Jerk by a Circle of Jerks.

163 Mike Lamb  Aug 22, 2014 7:56:30am

re: #139 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan has submitted his application already

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Because no heteros have a similar goal. When reached for comment, Wilt Chamberlain said, “One per day? Slacker.”

164 Mike Lamb  Aug 22, 2014 7:57:35am

Also: beheading…not offensive. Icky sexy time stuff…offensive.

165 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 7:58:09am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Somehow I imagine the people who are condemning the Ferguson protesters see the people who were protesting in what became the Boston Massacre as the finest patriots.

All except that Attucks thug.

166 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:58:34am

re: #164 Mike Lamb

Also: beheading…not offensive. Icky sexy time stuff…offensive.

Reminds me of a friend’s father who would let them and their siblings see all the violence they could but he drew the line at boobs. Because you know natural human beauty is so much more obscene than violence.

167 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 7:59:09am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

All except that Attucks thug.

Did you know that Cripsus Attucks liked rap?

168 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 7:59:46am

re: #155 lawhawk

Hoft would likely try to claim that he’s a journalist and merely repeating what someone inside the prosecutor’s office relayed to him. Investigators would want that person - and Hoft would have to give that person up or likely see obstruction charges on that investigation.

The person inside the prosecutor’s office would potentially face a possible charges relating to hindering an ongoing prosecution (the Brown killing) by leaking bogus details in an attempt to taint a potential jury pool.

But given the way the FPD and STL County police have handled things, don’t expect either of these to happen.

The MO charge manual (starting page 48) lays out the various charges that could be involved.

lawhawk beat me to it, but I was going to point out that any attorney who leaked something like that could face action from the Bar if the rules in Missouri are anything like Virginia’s. In addition, if one of the attorney’s staff leaked it, the attorney could face action for not supervising their employees adequately, again, if the rules are similar to Virginia’s.

In addition, who in that office would be stupid enough to allow #SMOTI to quote them as being a member of the prosecutor’s office?

In short, my money’s on bullshit or some random e-mail he got from some nutjob claiming to work for the office and which he did no effort to verify.

169 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 8:00:30am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Did you know that Cripsus Attucks liked rap?

His kind looted tea from law-abiding merchants.

170 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:01:30am

re: #168 Timothy Watson

lawhawk beat me to it, but I was going to point out that any attorney who leaked something like that could face action from the Bar if the rules in Missouri are anything like Virginia’s. In addition, if one of the attorney’s staff leaked it, the attorney could face action for not supervising their employees adequately, again, if the rules are similar to Virginia’s.

In addition, who in that office would be stupid enough to allow #SMOTI to quote them as being a member of the prosecutor’s office?

In short, my money’s on bullshit or some random e-mail he got from some nutjob claiming to work for the office and which he did no effort to verify.

Gotcha thanks.

171 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 8:01:42am

re: #168 Timothy Watson

lawhawk beat me to it, but I was going to point out that any attorney who leaked something like that could face action from the Bar if the rules in Missouri are anything like Virginia’s. In addition, if one of the attorney’s staff leaked it, the attorney could face action for not supervising their employees adequately, again, if the rules are similar to Virginia’s.

In addition, who in that office would be stupid enough to allow #SMOTI to quote them as being a member of the prosecutor’s office?

In short, my money’s on bullshit or some random e-mail he got from some nutjob claiming to work for the office and which he did no effort to verify.

Yesterday I placed a small credibility wager on Dana Loesch.

172 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:01:45am

re: #169 Decatur Deb

His kind looted tea from law-abiding merchants.

But but how did he wear his pants?

173 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:01:56am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Did you know that Cripsus Attucks liked rap?

He was wearing saggy breeches on his Facebook profile!

174 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:02:04am

re: #171 Decatur Deb

Yesterday I placed a small credibility wager on Dana Loesch.

Then it truly will have become a Circle of Derp.

175 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 8:03:04am

Wow, SMOTI called ChuckyC a reporter. And he forgot to add “award-winning.”
/

176 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 8:03:35am

re: #173 Pie-onist Overlord

He was wearing saggy breeches on his Facebook profile!

Gang sign:

Image: GAADT-Crispus-Attucks-e1371501033317.jpg

177 urbanmeemaw  Aug 22, 2014 8:05:31am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I also want to see the FPD taken to task for its handling of the case.

I totally agree. A next step would be what they need to be doing going forward. It sounds to be like they are not managed well at all.

178 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 8:05:44am

Can I root against both of them?

Sean Hannity and Stephen A. Smith Battle over Michael Brown Shooting

They kept arguing over whose testimony was right until Smith, who’d kept cautioning that the facts of the case needed to be examined before he could rush to judgement, decided to turn the questions onto Hannity. “You like to talk, so this shouldn’t be a problem. Here’s the deal: I understand your argument, but can you honestly say it would have taken six bullets to stop him if he’s unarmed?”

Hannity admitted that he didn’t understand why Brown was shot six times, but offered up an explanation: “If [Wilson] had an orbital eye socket fracture, that, to me, explains him being hit three times in the arm, and once in another place, to stop a pretty big kid from coming at him.

179 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:07:44am

re: #178 Lidane

Can I root against both of them?

Sean Hannity and Stephen A. Smith Battle over Michael Brown Shooting

I thought Sean wanted to wait for the facts. Oh wait.

180 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:07:55am

We have turned an entire nation in experts on facial bone injuries almost overnight!!!

181 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:08:22am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We have turned an entire nation in experts on facial bone injuries almost overnight!!!

Dr. Hannity Howser, MD.

182 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 8:10:17am

When you know your audience: Horror Ingraham opens segment on Eric Holder with “Jive Talkin’”.

183 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:11:31am

re: #182 Kid A

When you know your audience: Horror Ingraham opens segment on Eric Holder with “Jive Talkin’”.

Little Coulter.

184 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 8:14:12am

Wikifact: The Boston Massacre was derived in part from abusive action by the captain of a British Man o’ War, the HMS Romney.

185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:15:49am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Wikifact: The Boston Massacre was derived in part from abusive action by the captain of a British Man o’ War, the HMS Romney.

“The fortye-seven percente be damned!”

186 Danny  Aug 22, 2014 8:16:05am

re: #138 Timothy Watson

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but shouldn’t the Ferguson PD had started an administrative investigation to see if any policies or procedures were violated even if the shooting was in accordance with statutory law?

From what I’ve read most PD departments have an internal affairs unit conduct an independent administrative investigation.

187 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:17:05am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Wikifact: The Boston Massacre was derived in part from abusive action by the captain of a British Man o’ War, the HMS Romney.

Yeah but our Romney would have paid someone else to do it.

188 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 8:21:08am

re: #186 Danny

From what I’ve read most PD departments have an internal affairs unit conduct an independent administrative investigation.

Part of the problem might be that Ferguson PD is too small, only 53 bodies. Consolidation with an adult PD might be the answer.

189 Danny  Aug 22, 2014 8:24:29am

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Yes, the FPD internal affairs reviews have been criticized in the past. Probably why Jackson turned it over to StLCP.

190 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 8:30:01am

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture together?

191 FemNaziBitch  Aug 22, 2014 8:30:04am

Morning all, here for a few minutes.

It’s damp, drizzly and overcast in my part of the world.

Good news is that the rain dampnened the mold counts. We are registering only Moderate on the mold and weed counts.

you?

192 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:30:27am

When wingnuts eat each other, it’s like Christmas in August!

193 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:31:08am

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture together?

I want to see a death cage match. The winner can face Matt Drudge.

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:31:11am

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture together?

Like a pair of powerful orbital sockets zeroing in like a laser wherever liberals try to convince us that racism and social injustice exist anywhere in America.

195 FemNaziBitch  Aug 22, 2014 8:31:18am
196 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2014 8:31:30am

re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord

When wingnuts eat each other, it’s like Christmas in August!

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Wait, stop.

Dim Jim actually has the gall to complain about INACCURATE REPORTING??

Wow.

197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:32:04am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, stop.

Dim Jim actually has the gall to complain about INACCURATE REPORTING??

Wow.

When it is directed at him, yes.

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:32:31am

The NY Times should know when to shut the fuck up.

199 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 8:32:37am

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture venture in the join together?

sarc maybe////?

200 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:32:47am

re: #192 Pie-onist Overlord

When wingnuts eat each other, it’s like Christmas in August!

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Awww poor baby.

201 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 8:32:51am

Right, and that explains the bogus scan you’re passing off as Wilson’s scans.

And that the WaPo definitively states the prosecutors never saw any of Wilson’s medical records.

So, either you’re lying. Or your sources are lying. Or you’re making stuff up as you go.

It’s a pu-pu platter of perfidy. And the outcome will be to derail a potential prosecution of a police officer who engaged in an unlawful shooting.

202 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 8:34:31am

re: #199 Franklin

dammit, typo killed my punchline.

Should be:

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture venture in the joint together?

203 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:34:39am

re: #201 lawhawk

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Right, and that explains the bogus scan you’re passing off as Wilson’s scans.

And that the WaPo definitively states the prosecutors never saw any of Wilson’s medical records.

So, either you’re lying. Or your sources are lying. Or you’re making stuff up as you go.

It’s a pu-pu platter of perfidy. And the outcome will be to derail a potential prosecution of a police officer who engaged in an unlawful shooting.

Bolded is exactly what he’s wanted from the start.

204 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:35:03am

When you’ve lost Redstate………

205 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 8:35:44am

re: #201 lawhawk

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Right, and that explains the bogus scan you’re passing off as Wilson’s scans.

And that the WaPo definitively states the prosecutors never saw any of Wilson’s medical records.

So, either you’re lying. Or your sources are lying. Or you’re making stuff up as you go.

It’s a pu-pu platter of perfidy. And the outcome will be to derail a potential prosecution of a police officer who engaged in an unlawful shooting.

Looks like the establishment wingnut media is in the process of dumping The Gateway Pundit overboard.

Poor fella.

206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:35:44am

re: #201 lawhawk

It’s a pu-pu platter of perfidy. And the outcome will be to derail a potential prosecution of a police officer who engaged in an unlawful shooting.

upding for the fitting turn of phrase

207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:36:28am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Bolded is exactly what he’s wanted from the start.

and the FPD as well, they knew that people like Jim would be happy to assist them

208 Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2014 8:36:55am

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture together?

Derptards R Us

209 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 8:37:21am

re: #202 Franklin

dammit, typo killed my punchline.

Should be:

Chuck C Johnson will be needing a couch to crash on when his lawsuit to get those juvie records goes to trial.

Sounds like a match made in heaven.

210 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 22, 2014 8:38:35am

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture together?

The Interderp.

211 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:38:51am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and the FPD as well, they knew that people like Jim would be happy to assist them

Yep, that’s for damn sure.

212 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 8:39:35am

re: #210 GlutenFreeJesus

The Interderp.

hahaha

First Derp Media

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2014 8:40:15am

Popcorn time:

Judge warns against Perry grand jury threats

The judge said that Perry might have made a veiled threat when he said: “I am confident we will ultimately prevail, that this farce of a prosecution will be revealed for what it is, and that those responsible will be held to account.”
The only people that Perry could be referring to as being accountable are the grand jurors, judge and prosecutor, (Judge Julie) Kocurek said.

214 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:41:27am

Wow it’s a dogpile

215 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 8:41:42am

Hoft and now Loesch are trying to rattle Redstate’s Leon who ran with exposing Hoft’s nonsense.

Attacking Leon for claiming that he didn’t check sources. When Hoft’s sources are who exactly?

People who claim to be in the prosecutor’s office, when the official office response is that they haven’t spoken to Wilson and haven’t seen any of Wilson’s medical records.

And Hoft still pushes that nonsensical ct scan as though it is Wilson’s.

216 FemNaziBitch  Aug 22, 2014 8:42:14am

217 FemNaziBitch  Aug 22, 2014 8:43:53am
218 Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2014 8:44:21am
Unlike Leon at @Redstate , I called my three sources before I wrote my story. Unless I missed your call???
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 22, 2014

Source 1. Dana Loesch
Source 2. Chucky C Johnson
Source 3. Erick Erickson

219 FemNaziBitch  Aug 22, 2014 8:44:48am

re: #212 b.d.

hahaha

First Derp Media

Multimedia Derp!

220 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 8:45:16am
221 FemNaziBitch  Aug 22, 2014 8:45:35am

bbl

222 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:46:32am

re: #218 Dr. Matt

Source 1. Dana Loesch
Source 2. Chucky C Johnson
Source 3. Erick Erickson

Give Erick some credit, he hasn’t joined the swarm of Derp.

223 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 8:46:58am
224 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 8:47:37am

This is fuckin’ hilarious

225 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:48:25am

I hate it when Mommy and Daddy fight.

226 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 8:49:18am

The GOP sure knows how to pick ‘em —

GOP AG Candidate’s Law Firm Job Evaluation: He’s A ‘Train Wreck’

A Republican candidate for attorney general in Nevada was described in a performance evaulation by his law firm as a “train wreck” who “doesn’t even have the basic skill set.”

Republican Adam Laxalt received the blistering assessment from the Lewis & Roca Associate Evaluation and Compensation Committee, as first published by journalist Jon Ralston.

The assessment said that Laxalt should go to seminars to help “address basic legal principles” as he had “judgement issues and doesn’t seem to understand what to do.” The committee recommended freezing Laxalt’s salary “deferral, and possible termination.”

227 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 8:49:23am

Derp on Derp Crime.

228 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:50:36am

re: #226 Lidane

The GOP sure knows how to pick ‘em —

GOP AG Candidate’s Law Firm Job Evaluation: He’s A ‘Train Wreck’

I wish I could laugh but then I remember there are a lot of people who will vote for a R simply because of the R.

229 Franklin  Aug 22, 2014 8:50:50am

This Loesch/Hoft/Leon spat remind me of this:

Youtube Video

230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:51:12am

re: #226 Lidane

The GOP sure knows how to pick ‘em —

GOP AG Candidate’s Law Firm Job Evaluation: He’s A ‘Train Wreck’

Any relation to Paul Laxalt?

231 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 8:52:17am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Any relation to Paul Laxalt?

His grandson.

232 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 8:52:44am

re: #231 Lidane

His grandson.

explains a lot…

233 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 8:53:33am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

explains a lot…

It gets better. From the article in #231 —

Laxalt is only 34, has never run for office before and is campaigning for attorney general—attorney general!—in Nevada, where he has been a cipher until just recently and whose last name explains … everything. That’s because Laxalt has one of the most unusual pedigrees in American politics: He’s the grandson of Paul Laxalt, the former senator and Ronald Reagan confidant once known as “the first friend”—still, at 91, casting a long if not always visible shadow in Nevada politics. Awkwardly, young Laxalt is also the illegitimate son of Sen. Pete Domenici, his grandfather’s longtime Senate colleague. In fact, it was only last year that Adam Laxalt’s mother Michelle, a 24-year-old Reagan operative at the time of the affair and now a well-known Washington lobbyist, revealed her son’s parentage for the first time, a sensational revelation that almost certainly had the effect of clearing the way for his political career.

234 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:53:49am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

explains a lot…

Not familiar with Grandpa Laxalt. Know the name but please explain.

236 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 8:54:17am

re: #224 Pie-onist Overlord

They’re butthurt over the fact that Leon basically came to the same conclusion that Charles and anyone with a functioning neuron would - that Hoft lied about his claims, and he keeps doubling down on the lie, figuring that he’d bluster his way out of this until the next outrageous outrage lets it fall by the wayside.

237 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:55:00am

re: #233 Lidane

It gets better. From the article in #231 —

So he’s running on grandpa’s name. Time to apply for a brickmason’s job. Maybe not entirely fair since he’s at least a bar member and I’ve never worked with bricks before but damn holy nepotism batman.

238 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:55:37am

I wonder if this interaction with Hoft and Loesch will make Leon realize that this kind of shit is par the course for his right wing friends.

239 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 8:57:03am

re: #190 b.d.

Jim Hoft and Chuck C Johnson totally need to team up, maybe start a joint venture together?

I wished they would smoke a joint together. Maybe they would chill the hell out.

240 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 8:57:52am

re: #239 ObserverArt

I wished they would smoke a joint together. Maybe they would chill the hell out.

Can we send some of that to Bryan Fischer too?

241 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 8:59:44am

WTFITS:

Dinesh D’Souza Explains The ‘Common Thread Between ISIS And What’s Going On In Ferguson’

Declaring that, historically, it was black people who were denied equal justice under the law, D’Souza said that now we are seeing “a complete flip” so that now white people cannot get justice under President Obama and America is just “going from one set of injustices to another.”

That somehow led D’Souza to claim that there is “a common thread between ISIS and what’s going on in Ferguson” because, in both situations, people are seeking to correct a perceived injustice by inflicting a whole host of new injustices “and all of this is then licensed by the Left and licensed, to some degree, by the media”

242 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:01:21am

re: #241 Lidane

WTFITS:

Dinesh D’Souza Explains The ‘Common Thread Between ISIS And What’s Going On In Ferguson’

Oh please just shut the fuck up Dinesh. Seriously just shut up and stop comparing your fellow citizens to a terrorist group that just beheaded an American citizen.

243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 9:01:36am

re: #241 Lidane

WTFITS:

Dinesh D’Souza Explains The ‘Common Thread Between ISIS And What’s Going On In Ferguson’

He needs to fit Benghazi into this somehow…

244 wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2014 9:01:56am
245 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 9:03:04am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

I wonder if this interaction with Hoft and Loesch will make Leon realize that this kind of shit is par the course for his right wing friends.

There’s some hot wingnut-on-wingnut action going on there.

246 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 9:03:14am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

Somone was Thinking again!

Only if they are eating them while parked!

But sadly, we know many will be dipping those fries in the little cup and eating them as they drive. That is NOT smart thinking (on the part of the distracted driver).

247 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 22, 2014 9:04:02am

re: #241 Lidane

I usually stop reading after “Dinesh D’Souza Explains” but damn that’s some convoluted shit.

248 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:04:03am

re: #245 Kid A

There’s some hot wingnut-on-wingnut action going on there.

Ewww.

249 Romantic Heretic  Aug 22, 2014 9:05:27am

Afternoon all.

Sorry I’ve been scarce. Between the Middle East and Ferguson I was starting that horrible downward spiral that depression causes and a quick scan shows I’d better wander some place quiet for a while.

Take care.

250 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:05:31am

So remember folks. Bundy supporters actually threatening federal law enforcement is a okay and those people are fine patriots. The people in Ferguson protesting a cop killing an unarmed kid and what looks to be a complete bastardization of an investigation are like ISIS. Fuck you conservatives who think like this.

251 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 9:05:46am

The Post-Dispatch reported Wednesday that the grand jury had three black people, but the gender information is new. The gender information was supplied by Paul Fox, director of judicial administration for St. Louis County Circuit Court.

252 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:05:49am

re: #249 Romantic Heretic

Afternoon all.

Sorry I’ve been scarce. Between the Middle East and Ferguson I was starting that horrible downward spiral that depression causes and a quick scan shows I’d better wander some place quiet for a while.

Take care.

Hang in there.

253 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:06:35am

re: #251 lawhawk

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Not too surprising since juries are as I read representative as the county more so than the town at large.

254 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 9:06:55am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Can we send some of that to Bryan Fischer too?

I don’t know, some people can’t handle The Weed as it might make them super-paranoid and they would freak out, maybe go off the deep end.

I think Bryan would be a candidate for a real bad reaction.

255 Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2014 9:14:09am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

*SETS DESK ON FIRE*
*HURLS IT OUT THE WINDOW*

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Dim’s third and fourth sources once again seem to be Dim himself.

256 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 9:14:59am

re: #249 Romantic Heretic

Afternoon all.

Sorry I’ve been scarce. Between the Middle East and Ferguson I was starting that horrible downward spiral that depression causes and a quick scan shows I’d better wander some place quiet for a while.

Take care.

Have some pie.

257 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 9:15:29am

re: #256 Pie-onist Overlord

Have some pie.

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That looks sooooo good.

258 Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2014 9:18:08am

A DimJim poster this morning.

I hate liberals • 2 hours ago

Sad That CNN has done nothing but incite the jungle animals that live in Ferguson. For once you think these low life liberals would do the right thing and report the truth?

He goes on to say

I hate liberals zanzibar • 21 minutes ago

I am talking about the entire black community in general. Get over yourself! If you can not stand the truth then I am sorry! Somebody needs to say it!

The Gateway Pundit, a subsidiary of Stormfront Enterprises.

259 wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2014 9:21:37am

re: #249 Romantic Heretic

{{{R H}}}

260 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:22:05am

re: #258 Skip Intro

A DimJim poster this morning.

I hate liberals • 2 hours ago

Sad That CNN has done nothing but incite the jungle animals that live in Ferguson. For once you think these low life liberals would do the right thing and report the truth?

He goes on to say

I hate liberals zanzibar • 21 minutes ago

I am talking about the entire black community in general. Get over yourself! If you can not stand the truth then I am sorry! Somebody needs to say it!

The Gateway Pundit, a subsidiary of Stormfront Enterprises.

And a white power to you too asshole.

261 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 22, 2014 9:22:20am

re: #226 Lidane

If it’s good enough for Justice Antonin Scalia then it’s good enough for Nevada AG.

262 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 9:22:52am

re: #249 Romantic Heretic

Afternoon all.

Sorry I’ve been scarce. Between the Middle East and Ferguson I was starting that horrible downward spiral that depression causes and a quick scan shows I’d better wander some place quiet for a while.

Take care.

I understand where you are coming from. I was lying low over the last week or so myself. Sometimes the real truth of what is going on can be overbearing.

You know what really has me concerned. How do all of these police killings against African Americans, hating on illegal immigrants, messing with gay issues and the like look to the rest of the world?

I think it further erodes our moral standing as the beacon of how to do it all the right way. We lost a lot when we invaded Iraq (a sovereign nation). Now we are seen as terrorizing and killing our own citizens.

Maybe it is time for America to shut-the-fuck-up about everyone else’s human rights issues and fix our own.

Besides, as many have joked, we have our own Taliban here with the crazy Christians and TeaParty folks.

We need to get over ourselves a bit and get back on the correct path.

(And no, I am not a revolutionary…just concerned we are going the wrong way.)

263 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 9:28:30am

re:
#241

Dinesh Dzousa seems to be regressing. If that’s possible.

264 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:29:39am

I just wonder about our country sometimes. Sometimes, we seem to be making a lot of genuine progress. I’m glad to see that SSM is practically a non issue to people my age for instance but OTOH I will read internet comments where people describe African Americans in ways that they were described in the Jim Crow era. So far we’ve come and yet so far to go. It’s strange to say but I am actually more disillusioned under Obama’s presidency than I was under Bush’s. That’s not a slight on Obama himself who has tried to and done a lot of good but the fact is that we still have a long way to go and there’s still a lot of people out there who haven’t even conceded defeat in the Civil Rights movement battles let alone our present ones.

265 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 9:30:34am

re:
#258

I hate liberals • 2 hours ago
Sad That CNN has done nothing but incite the jungle animals that live in Ferguson. For once you think these low life liberals would do the right thing and report the truth?

Charming fellow.
/

266 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:30:36am

re: #263 Bulworth

re:
#241

Dinesh Dzousa seems to be regressing. If that’s possible.

Yeah, I didn’t think it was possible but here Dinesh is actually comparing American protesters to a terrorist group that has beheaded American civilians. He’s a shitty person. Probably still butt hurt that he’s a convicted felon now.

267 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 9:33:31am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I didn’t think it was possible but here Dinesh is actually comparing American protesters to a terrorist group that has beheaded American civilians. He’s a shitty person. Probably still butt hurt that he’s a convicted felon now.

Why isn’t he in prison yet?

268 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 9:33:50am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

I just wonder about our country sometimes. Sometimes, we seem to be making a lot of genuine progress. I’m glad to see that SSM is practically a non issue to people my age for instance but OTOH I will read internet comments where people describe African Americans in ways that they were described in the Jim Crow era (1A). So far we’ve come and yet so far to go. It’s strange to say but I am actually more disillusioned under Obama’s presidency than I was under Bush’s (1B). That’s not a slight on Obama himself who has tried to and done a lot of good but the fact is that we still have a long way to go and there’s still a lot of people out there who haven’t even conceded defeat in the Civil Rights movement battles let alone our present ones.

I’m thinking bolded part 1A resolves the issue in 1B.

269 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 9:33:56am

In looking at the previous thread’s topic, I noticed that Hoft claims his eye-socket story was confirmed! by two sources: the prosecutor’s office, which appears to be his original source; and the STL county police.

That sort of adds a new wrinkle to this whole thing. I know Charles has written to the prosecutor’s office to ask them about their being a source for Hoft. It will be interesting to hear if they respond. Be interesting to hear what the STL county cops have to say as well.

270 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 9:34:39am
271 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 9:34:58am

re: #267 Timothy Watson

Why isn’t he in prison yet?

He gets sentenced next month.

272 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 9:35:53am

re:
#249

Sorry to hear RH, take care of yourself.

273 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:36:14am

re: #268 ObserverArt

I’m thinking bolded part 1A resolves the issue in 1B.

Alas you’re probably right about that.

274 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:37:28am

He’s probably going to cry that Obama is going to send him to a gulag when I bet you he gets a nice comfy prison where he’ll be free to continue to spread his bs.

275 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 22, 2014 9:39:04am
276 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:39:37am

re: #275 Aunty Entity Dragon

Convicted GOP felon says what?

I don’t know. It’s hard to understand him. Maybe he needs his diaper changed.

277 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 9:40:00am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

So he’s running on grandpa’s name. Time to apply for a brickmason’s job. Maybe not entirely fair since he’s at least a bar member and I’ve never worked with bricks before but damn holy nepotism batman.

I’ve had to (try to) lay bricks on a Habitat house. He wouldn’t make it.

278 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 9:41:59am

re: #271 Kid A

He gets sentenced next month.

Dammit, and because the way the Federal Bureau of Prisons works, he might not have to turn himself into their custody until a month or two later. :(

279 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:44:59am

re: #277 Decatur Deb

I’ve had to (try to) lay bricks on a Habitat house. He wouldn’t make it.

Heh well I was actually speaking for myself. Little Laxalt seems to think because Grandpa was a politician, he can be AG, it’s akin to me thinking I can do the brickmason work since my grandfather was one. And yeah it’s tough work. He did it well for years and well into his retirement too.

280 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 9:46:01am

It is obvious what needs to happen now.

The award winning journalist Chuck C Johnson needs to send Jim Hoft a FOIA request demanding to know who his sources are.

I’ll be glad to help out with any notary fees that are incurred.

281 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 9:46:04am

re:
#241

You know, I never would have thought to put Ferguson and ISIS together. I’m sure glad smart, thoughtful people exist to make these connections for us. ///

282 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 9:47:17am

re: #281 Bulworth

re:
#241

You know, I never would have thought to put Ferguson and ISIS together. I’m sure glad smart, thoughtful people exist to make these connections for us. ///

Do we know where Bill Ayers falls into this? Or how about Jeremiah Wright?

283 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 9:48:25am

Don’t know about Ben Carson but Allen West sure tortured a bunch of folks

284 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 9:52:37am

re: #267 Timothy Watson

Why isn’t he in prison yet?

And why isn’t Ted Nugent in prison yet?

285 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 9:56:24am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And why isn’t Ted Nugent in prison yet?

He hasn’t committed a crime, well, not recently at least that I’m familiar with…

286 Dave In Austin  Aug 22, 2014 9:56:48am

re: #130 Lidane

So Christlike……

287 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 9:57:24am

re: #285 Timothy Watson

He hasn’t committed a crime, well, not recently at least that I’m familiar with…

He declared that if Obama was re-elected he would be dead or in jail.

288 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 9:57:38am

re:
#283

So with the demise of the eye-socket busted meme I guess we’re back to the “thuggish thugs strong-arm robbed a store so Brown deserved to die all shot up” phase of the Ferguson unrest.

289 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 10:00:35am

ARGH. I have to try and put together a writing sample for a potential employer and it’s giving me fits. It’s something so basic I don’t know why this is such a problem. I have to go to their site, summarize who they are, the challenges they address and “how you think we can help address these challenges”.

It’s ONE page tops. One. Fucking. Page. And it feels like I’m being asked to write a dissertation. WTF? The position requires writing these things after each call/meeting with a client, so this is obvious stuff. It shouldn’t be this hard.

290 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 22, 2014 10:01:09am

re: #287 Pie-onist Overlord

He declared that if Obama was re-elected he would be dead or in jail.

Within a year, and it’s been nearly two now…

291 wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2014 10:02:23am

re: #289 Lidane

ARGH. I have to try and put together a writing sample for a potential employer and it’s giving me fits. It’s something so basic I don’t know why this is such a problem. I have to go to their site, summarize who they are, the challenges they address and “how you think we can help address these challenges”.

It’s ONE page tops. One. Fucking. Page. And it feels like I’m being asked to write a dissertation. WTF? The position requires writing these things after each call/meeting with a client, so this is obvious stuff. It shouldn’t be this hard.

Pretend you don’t want the job. Pretend you’re doing it for a friend.

292 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 10:02:47am

Wasn’t Assange going to come out of the embassy already?

I guess he didn’t get the press reaction he wanted and decided to stay holed up?

293 Timothy Watson  Aug 22, 2014 10:07:25am

re: #292 b.d.

Wasn’t Assange going to come out of the embassy already?

I guess he didn’t get the press reaction he wanted and decided to stay holed up?

There’s a Groundhog Day joke somewhere in there.

294 Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2014 10:10:51am

re: #289 Lidane

ARGH. I have to try and put together a writing sample for a potential employer and it’s giving me fits. It’s something so basic I don’t know why this is such a problem. I have to go to their site, summarize who they are, the challenges they address and “how you think we can help address these challenges”.

It’s ONE page tops. One. Fucking. Page. And it feels like I’m being asked to write a dissertation. WTF? The position requires writing these things after each call/meeting with a client, so this is obvious stuff. It shouldn’t be this hard.

You get a whole page? Geez, that’s like 20 tweets.

295 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 10:12:44am

re: #289 Lidane

ARGH. I have to try and put together a writing sample for a potential employer and it’s giving me fits. It’s something so basic I don’t know why this is such a problem. I have to go to their site, summarize who they are, the challenges they address and “how you think we can help address these challenges”.

It’s ONE page tops. One. Fucking. Page. And it feels like I’m being asked to write a dissertation. WTF? The position requires writing these things after each call/meeting with a client, so this is obvious stuff. It shouldn’t be this hard.

Look at it this way: they want to make sure that the candidate can write coherently & spell correctly.

296 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:12:49am

re: #283 Pie-onist Overlord

Don’t know about Ben Carson but Allen West sure tortured a bunch of folks

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Yeah……..

297 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 22, 2014 10:16:19am

re: #283 Pie-onist Overlord

Don’t know about Ben Carson but Allen West sure tortured a bunch of folks

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Ben Carson tortures a bunch of folks whenever he’s on TV.

299 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:17:12am

Youmightbeaconservative if you think posting Allan West and Ben Carson’s photo and saying I’d vote for them proves I’m not racist but yet you accuse modern white liberals as being akin to the KKK who have supported Barack Obama. Frankly, CArson, West, and the others suffer from the same disease that nearly all GOP would be candidates. It’s called being a bigoted jackass. West is an Islamaphobe and Carson has been pretty narrow minded to anyone not a fundamentalist zealot like himself.

300 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 10:17:36am

re: #289 Lidane

ARGH. I have to try and put together a writing sample for a potential employer and it’s giving me fits. It’s something so basic I don’t know why this is such a problem. I have to go to their site, summarize who they are, the challenges they address and “how you think we can help address these challenges”.

It’s ONE page tops. One. Fucking. Page. And it feels like I’m being asked to write a dissertation. WTF? The position requires writing these things after each call/meeting with a client, so this is obvious stuff. It shouldn’t be this hard.

You’re stressing too, maybe because you want the job so much. Relax. Deep breaths. Forget why you are doing it and just be assured of yourself. You write well around here, so you should have no problem.

Now, go out there and show ‘em how it is done!

(Coach mode)

301 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:18:09am

re: #298 Lidane

Mark Levin: Obama ‘Hooked on Golf like Drug Addicts Are Hooked on Drugs’

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That’s the first time I’ve ever seen a golf fan equated to a junkie. Levin knows his audience though for sure.

302 Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2014 10:23:46am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

That’s the first time I’ve ever seen a golf fan equated to a junkie. Levin knows his audience though for sure.

He must be thinking of his pal Limbaugh.

303 A Mom Anon  Aug 22, 2014 10:25:14am

re: #249 Romantic Heretic

(((HUGS))) Do what you have to to take care of yourself. Sounds like you know what your triggers are. Come back when you feel you can. We’re here.

304 Amory Blaine  Aug 22, 2014 10:25:19am

re: #45 A Mom Anon

305 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:25:28am

re: #302 Skip Intro

He must be thinking of his pal Limbaugh.

Yeah probably. Now there’s a drug addict.

306 Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2014 10:27:59am
307 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 10:29:34am

re:
#306

Retweet a million times eleventy

308 jaunte  Aug 22, 2014 10:30:19am

re: #298 Lidane

In Levin’s case, it’s “Old Man Squeals At Cloud.”

309 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 10:30:46am

re: #306 Charles Johnson

310 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:31:10am

You know, I remember when Bush was president people like Levin telling us to “respect the office.” And here Mark is likening the POTUS to a drug addict. Stay classy fuckface.

311 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 10:31:53am

re: #308 jaunte

In Levin’s case, it’s “Old Man Squeals At Cloud.”

I’d substitute “squeals” for “shrieks”. He is one insufferable asshole.

312 Gus  Aug 22, 2014 10:32:02am

GOLF

313 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 10:33:12am

Didn’t Clinton break his ankle at Greg Norman’s house after playing golf with him?

314 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:33:20am

re: #311 Kid A

I’d substitute squeals for shrieks. He is one insufferable asshole.

Frankly are there any RW pundits and talk show hosts who aren’t? I swear it’s in the job description.
TO QUALIFY, MUST BE INSUFFERABLE ASSHOLE, EXPERIENCE IN RACE BAITING AND BIGOTRY SUGGESTED BUT NOT REQUIRED.

315 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 10:34:51am

Augusta National named a tree after President Eisenhower because he played there all the time, for fuck’s sake.

316 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 10:35:33am

re: #315 Kid A

Augusta National named a tree after President Eisenhower because he played there all the time, for fuck’s sake.

Eisenhower played 800 rounds of golf as POTUS, an all-time record.

317 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:35:35am

Maybe he should spend his time eating jelly beans like a real president and then forgetting everything.

318 Kragar  Aug 22, 2014 10:35:35am
319 OhNoZombies!  Aug 22, 2014 10:35:40am

I wonder if the president marks his golf balls with little letters…
Like B for Boehner, or M for Mitch, or maybe just C for Congress…
Naw, probably not him, but I would, and I’d be hitting the snot outta those balls with a big ass driver.

320 Lidane  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:00am

re: #315 Kid A

Augusta National named a tree after President Eisenhower because he played there all the time, for fuck’s sake.

Yes, but golf is only an issue when a blah guy plays the game.

321 jaunte  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:14am

Ferguson Feeds Off the Poor: Three Warrants a Year Per Household

A report issued just last week (pdf at link) by the nonprofit lawyer’s group ArchCity Defenders notes that in the court’s 36 three-hour sessions in 2013, it handled 12,108 cases and 24,532 warrants. That is an average of 1.5 cases and three warrants per Ferguson household. Fines and court fees for the year in this city of just 21,000 people totaled $2,635,400.

What a scam.

322 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:16am

re: #318 Kragar

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First world privilege problems.

323 Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:35am

324 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:39am

Obama plays an average of 2.7 rounds a month, or once every other week. So shut the fuck up, wingnuts, you’re killing my buzz.

325 Ryan King  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:51am

re: #320 Lidane

Yes, but golf is only an issue when a blah guy plays the game.

Why do you have to make it all about race?

326 Gus  Aug 22, 2014 10:36:59am
327 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 22, 2014 10:37:50am

re: #318 Kragar

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White girl gets a ticket for doing something a black teenage boy will get shot dead for.

328 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:37:52am

Just admit it wingnuts. You’er unhappy that Obama’s allowed any time to actually enjoy himself and you want his whole existence to be you shouting at him.

329 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 10:38:05am

re: #323 Skip Intro

Which is actually a riff on the Time Magazine cover.

330 Bulworth  Aug 22, 2014 10:38:05am

re:
#318

I’m confused. So if the Feds told the Bundy crowd to get the eff off fed land the Bundy militia should have just obeyed. Is that right?

331 Kid A  Aug 22, 2014 10:38:16am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

Did he really? My god, that’s 100 a year!! That’s 8 times a month!!! That’s 1.4 a week!!!!!!

332 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 10:38:17am

BENGOLFIE!!1!!

333 lawhawk  Aug 22, 2014 10:38:43am

re: #326 Gus

I see Batman. /The Joker

334 b.d.  Aug 22, 2014 10:39:08am

re: #326 Gus

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Please quit posting pr0n here.

335 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:39:14am

re: #331 Kid A

Did he really? My god, that’s 100 a year!! That’s 8 times a month!!! That’s 1.4 a week!!!!!!

Yeah but look at Ike. Don’t you see that white skin. We can’t get mad at him. And what’s that? He was a Republican too. Aww shucks, Ike, you enjoy a little time off.

336 A Mom Anon  Aug 22, 2014 10:39:30am

Sigh. Went to get the kid, got home to find giant puddle of dog pee right in front of the door. Stepped in it. Cleaned up dog pee. Also, I have inlaws coming for the weekend. And they’re bringing their dog, which is going to be an issue because my dog loses her shit for the first 24 hours around a new dog. And they know this and INSIST on bringing the dog anyway. Sigh again. Also, I just found out more inlaws will be here next weekend. When I was planning on having a cookout/gathering for all the people after the memorial service and stuff is done. Somehow we have to also find time for dealing with this whole hospice thing and the impending memorial before that. AND taking the kid back to school Sunday, AND then going back to get him next Friday because I forgot it’s a holiday weekend next weekend and school is closed.

Anyone who says a full time mom doesn’t do anything is getting a kick in the groinocological region. Also, too, I may just say fuck it and start drinking. I’d kill for some weed right now.

337 Gus  Aug 22, 2014 10:40:28am
338 wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2014 10:43:03am

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a good piece by Ross Douthat in the New York Times …

Youtube Video

339 HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2014 10:43:49am

“Think of a traumatic childhood memory.”
“Obama playing golf”
“Tell me about your parents.”
“Obama playing golf.”
“Okay, how about your first sexual experience”
“Obama playing golf”
“Fuck it”

340 Jenner7  Aug 22, 2014 10:47:46am

re: #336 A Mom Anon

Anyone who says a full time mom doesn’t do anything is getting a kick in the groinocological region. Also, too, I may just say fuck it and start drinking. I’d kill for some weed right now.

Word. :)

341 klys  Aug 22, 2014 10:51:11am

re: #249 Romantic Heretic

Afternoon all.

Sorry I’ve been scarce. Between the Middle East and Ferguson I was starting that horrible downward spiral that depression causes and a quick scan shows I’d better wander some place quiet for a while.

Take care.

{{RH}}

We’ll look forward to your return. Take care of yourself.

342 ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2014 11:21:23am

re: #316 Pie-onist Overlord

Eisenhower played 800 rounds of golf as POTUS, an all-time record.

Does not count. Eisenhower was a good REPUBLICAN president. So, he is a RINO.


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