Alleged New Audio Recording of the Shooting of Michael Brown Surfaces: 11 Shots Audible

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CNN played this audio recording tonight from an unnamed source in Ferguson, Missouri, allegedly an inadvertent recording of the shooting of Michael Brown. The 24 hour rule is in effect, but if this is verified — there are 11 shots clearly audible here. Draw your own conclusions.

UPDATE at 8/25/14 9:12:18 pm by Charles Johnson

Another YouTube version:

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UPDATE at 8/25/14 10:32:23 pm by Charles Johnson

Here’s video of an interview with the lawyer of the man who recorded this; she says the FBI interviewed her client.

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1 Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2014 8:57:51pm

11 shots with a substantial pause in between the first barrage and the second.

2 Dark_Falcon  Aug 25, 2014 9:02:30pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

11 shots with a substantial pause in between the first barrage and the second.

If this recording is admissible as evidence, then Wilson is done behind it. It’s one thing to be firing continuously as a perceived threat. But to have hit Brown more than once and then resumed firing is utterly indefensible.

Jim Hoft will of course ignore this recording and continue his race-baiting.

3 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 9:02:48pm

I’m gonna err on the side of caution and just assume that, until we get verification of the authenticity of this audio, that it’s probably fake. Still 11 shots with a pause before the final few shots? That’s pretty damning evidence if true. And since we know 6 shots hit Brown, that leaves five unaccounted for.

4 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 9:05:42pm
5 Kaessa  Aug 25, 2014 9:06:13pm

If this is true, he was shooting fast enough that he was barely aiming. I can’t hit a target very well if I’m shooting that fast. It would explain why he missed 5 shots.

6 Shazam  Aug 25, 2014 9:07:25pm

The witness statements say Wilson fired two distinct shots and then paused and then several in rapid succession. The pause is where Brown stopped and turned around. This audio has one followed by a very short pause, then five more in succession, then another pause, and then five (?) in very rapid succession. I’m not sure about it.

7 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 9:07:27pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

I’m gonna err on the side of caution and just assume that, until we get verification of the authenticity of this audio, that it’s probably fake. Still 11 shots with a pause before the final few shots? That’s pretty damning evidence if true. And since we know 6 shots hit Brown, that leaves five unaccounted for.

Six shots followed by a three to three and a half second pause followed by five shoots.

8 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 9:08:09pm

re: #7 ausador

Six shots followed by a three to three and a half second pause followed by five shoots.

Yes, that’s what I hear too.

9 WhatEVs  Aug 25, 2014 9:09:26pm

re: #7 ausador

Six shots followed by a three to three and a half second pause followed by five shoots.

What does that mean?

10 palomino  Aug 25, 2014 9:10:01pm

re: #5 Kaessa

If this is true, he was shooting fast enough that he was barely aiming. I can’t hit a target very well if I’m shooting that fast. It would explain why he missed 5 shots.

Still, 6 out of 11 isn’t bad when you’re shooting with an orbital blowout fracture.

That is what happened, right?

11 Goldenpipewrench  Aug 25, 2014 9:10:09pm

re: #1 Stanley Sea

11 shots with a substantial pause in between the first barrage and the second.

Ferguson Police Logic

After your assaulted, thugs always require a couple of warning shots when they attempt to rush you. Eye socket Andy taught me that…… ;)

12 Shazam  Aug 25, 2014 9:10:44pm

re: #6 Shazam

It’s possible that the first two shots, as Wilson was chasing after Brown, occur before this recording, and that all eleven shots are the ones from Brown’s front.

13 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 9:11:48pm

I will say that, if this is authentic, then I’m not sure how Wilson can explain it. “Josie” set up a scenario where only one shot went off before Wilson got out of the SUV, then every shot after that was when Brown turned and “bum rushed” him. The pattern of shots in this audio does not sound like a cop who held off shooting until he had a charging suspect and then fired until the suspect dropped dead.

14 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 9:12:39pm

A slightly clearer recording:

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15 Jenner7  Aug 25, 2014 9:13:48pm

I’m wondering about the claim that a shot went off in the car?

16 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 9:14:52pm

re: #9 WhatEVs

What does that mean?

It means ‘18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law”

They carry .40’s in Ferguson? No way you can aim one of those damn things that fast. But the pause? That’s more than enough time to see he’s trying to surrender and consciously decide to execute him.

17 Weet  Aug 25, 2014 9:15:21pm

You know the whole ‘Josie’ story, covered here too. Here’s someone else’s fiction. Some might think it’s in bad taste, but I think it’s just as real as Josie’s story.

For all we know, Officer Wilson’s account goes something like this:

“Yeah, I saw these two jaywalkers, drove up, told them to get the fuck off the street, then moved on a bit, but they were still strolling along in the street, so I decided to teach them a lesson. Threw it into reverse, backed up right next to them, swung the door open giving them a good whack with it, then grabbed the big guy by the neck. He was a pretty strong kid and pushed me off though, then started to run.
I wasn’t really hurt any, other than my pride, but I was kinda pissed at that point. So now I’m thinking, I’m really gonna get this n***. He’s trying to get away, so I get out of the car and start shooting at him. I miss the first couple of shots, but finally I must have hit him, cause then he stops then, puts his hands up, and turns toward me, like I’m just going to arrest him now.
Ha, so I fire a few more shots into him, and he stumbles forward, then I know he’s disabled at that point, and I’ve really got him. I shoot him right in the head, really finished him off good.”

18 Kaessa  Aug 25, 2014 9:15:40pm

Having had an orbital blowout fracture (and accompanying broken nose), I can pretty much guarantee that I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn after that happened.

19 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2014 9:16:06pm

Gotta say the last few shots sound more deliberate, slowed for better aim. Not a long enough gap for a reload unless the guy is super practiced at it.

20 blueraven  Aug 25, 2014 9:16:32pm

Supposedly, the man who made the recording has been interviewed by the FBI.

Weird convo, was he on a some kind of sex chat call thingie?

21 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 9:16:58pm

Which would mean that one of the original group of shots had to hit him…

If he was running away when the first group were fired (which even the police say he was) then one of the first six had to hit him. It has to be the wound in his lower arm that could have been from the front or back depending on how his arm was positioned.

In which case Michael then turned, so in approximately three seconds Michael turned and started charging?

It also means that all five shots from the second group hit him somewhere after he turned. I’m starting to believe the he turned and stood still version told by witnesses more and more.

A stationary target is a lot easier to hit… :(

22 Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2014 9:17:07pm

re: #20 blueraven

Supposedly, the man who made the recording has been interviewed by the FBI.

Weird convo, was he on a some kind of sex chat call thingie?

Yah, poor dude.

23 Danny  Aug 25, 2014 9:17:34pm

I hear six and four. Dunno.

24 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 9:17:49pm

re: #15 Jenner7

I’m wondering about the claim that a shot went off in the car?

That was always an obvious lie. This should put paid to it but the people that make Dim Jim look smart will still believe it.

25 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 9:18:59pm

re: #19 Rightwingconspirator

Gotta say the last few shots sound more deliberate, slowed for better aim. Not a long enough gap for a reload unless the guy is super practiced at it.

But enough time to check your situation and then, as you say, slow down and concentrate on killing someone.

26 Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2014 9:19:06pm

re: #24 William Barnett-Lewis

That was always an obvious lie. This should put paid to it but the people that make Dim Jim look smart will still believe it.

The SUV cruiser should tell that tale easily.

27 gwangung  Aug 25, 2014 9:20:36pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

The SUV cruiser should tell that tale easily.

Funny how that SUV is missing.

28 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2014 9:20:39pm

re: #19 Rightwingconspirator

Gotta say the last few shots sound more deliberate, slowed for better aim. Not a long enough gap for a reload unless the guy is super practiced at it.

No, I take that back. 3 to 4 seconds is a long gap. Could be many different things but the pace of the last few still sounds more aimed to me. Can’t read too much in though. It’s guesswork.

29 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 9:20:46pm

re: #15 Jenner7

I’m wondering about the claim that a shot went off in the car?

Since it went off inside the car it might not have been loud enough to pick up if the open car door faced away from the recording site house.

30 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 9:20:51pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

The SUV cruiser should tell that tale easily.

Too much time. There was a hole within 24 hours if it didn’t happen as they claimed. No way to tell it didn’t happen on the street… :(

31 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2014 9:21:47pm

re: #25 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s a big gap. Maybe that’s when he ran toward Brown? And that’s if this is real at all.

32 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 9:21:47pm

re: #24 William Barnett-Lewis

That was always an obvious lie. This should put paid to it but the people that make Dim Jim look smart will still believe it.

No there was a shot in the car, police said they found evidence of that shot, could have been an accidental discharge by the officer though.

33 Jenner7  Aug 25, 2014 9:22:46pm

re: #29 ausador

That’s true, and the audio could have come in after the supposed shot in the car. It will be interesting when or IF all the facts come out.

34 Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2014 9:23:08pm

I turned it off thank dog. REALLY?

35 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 9:25:45pm

re: #32 ausador

No there was a shot in the car, police said they found evidence of that shot, could have been an accidental discharge by the officer though.

Police said there was a shot in the car, yes. But at this point claims made by the Ferguson police should be considered just as suspect as anything else, without verification.

36 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 25, 2014 9:27:17pm

Not much gap at all between the first and second shots. If anyone dumps this into Adobe Premiere or similar software the split times can be seen clearly between shots. I’m out for the night, sad with the Brown family in mind and prayers.

37 Lidane  Aug 25, 2014 9:30:01pm

re: #18 Kaessa

Having had an orbital blowout fracture (and accompanying broken nose), I can pretty much guarantee that I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn after that happened.

That’s because you’re just a normal human being. Darren Wilson is clearly a Terminator from the future.

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38 Repleh  Aug 25, 2014 9:35:33pm

I’d like to hear it cleaned up and amplified to see if there are any voices — “stop or I’ll shoot” or “don’t shoot!”. I’d also like to know if FPD recovered the five bullets that missed.

My prediction of Wilson’s defense ( if this real): one shot in car from a struggle over the gun. One set of shots at the “fleeing felon” to protect the public. Last set of shots to protect himself from the rushing Brown.

Given how favorable Mo. law is to him on the fleeing felon shots, the last set will be hardest to justify. It’ll be his word against 3-4 witnesses who say Brown was trying to surrender.

39 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 9:36:51pm

re: #32 ausador

No there was a shot in the car, police said they found evidence of that shot, could have been an accidental discharge by the officer though.

Granted. My reactions have been predicated on the presumption it’s real.

Wierd - this was the message I was replying to…

re: #31 Rightwingconspirator

It’s a big gap. Maybe that’s when he ran toward Brown? And that’s if this is real at all.

40 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 9:40:21pm

re: #23 Danny

I hear six and four. Dunno.

In that clearer recording it does sound more like that, weird how a couple of the shots have more echo/reverb than others. Hard to tell if it is a rapid double-tap shot or a single.

Did the police chief say their service weapons only held 11 rounds total, or was it 11 in the mag and one in the chamber? I can’t remember anymore.

Either way with one shot already fired in the car it sure seems like he just kept firing until he ran dry.

41 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 9:41:36pm

re: #38 Repleh

I’d like to hear it cleaned up and amplified to see if there are any voices — “stop or I’ll shoot” or “don’t shoot!”. I’d also like to know if FPD recovered the five bullets that missed.

My prediction of Wilson’s defense ( if this real): one shot in car from a struggle over the gun. One set of shots at the “fleeing felon” to protect the public. Last set of shots to protect himself from the rushing Brown.

Given how favorable Mo. law is to him on the fleeing felon shots, the last set will be hardest to justify. It’ll be his word against 3-4 witnesses who say Brown was trying to surrender.

The defense so far against the witnesses is gonna come down to pushing reasonable doubt, namely focusing on any “discrepancies” in eyewitness testimony, and then arguing to the jury at the end that the witnesses “can’t be sure” what they saw.

42 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 9:50:03pm

I am going to follow the 24 hour rule but if the FBI has this then I am more willing to believe it is authentic and if so…11 shots? Really?!?

43 fern01  Aug 25, 2014 9:59:51pm

IF the police have properly investigated the crime scene - they will know EXACTLY how many shots were fired and they would have any stray bullets.

With the FPD doubt they will pass on this information.

44 sagehen  Aug 25, 2014 10:02:45pm

re: #43 fern01

IF the police have properly investigated the crime scene - they will know EXACTLY how many shots were fired and they would have any stray bullets.

With the FPD doubt they will pass on this information.

The FBI didn’t get there until several days after the fact, no way do they have proper thorough evidence from the scene.

45 gwangung  Aug 25, 2014 10:03:48pm

re: #44 sagehen

The FBI didn’t get there until several days after the fact, no way do they have proper thorough evidence from the scene.

Might have evidence, though, of obstruction of justice…

46 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:07:41pm

Saw a tweet that reporters confirmed the only reason they waited so long to release the name of the officer was to give him time to scrub social media and get out of town.

47 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 10:11:31pm

re: #46 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Saw a tweet that reporters confirmed the only reason they waited so long to release the name of the officer was to give him time to scrub social media and get out of town.

In other words they sat on the information while wingnuts were digging through the Internet for anything they might use to slander Michael Brown.

48 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:12:11pm

re: #47 Targetpractice

In other words they sat on the information while wingnuts were digging through the Internet for anything they might use to slander Michael Brown.

That also, too.

49 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 10:14:43pm
50 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:16:09pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

That was the tweet. Not sure how to snag/embed from tweetcaster on my phone.

51 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 10:16:28pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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I figured as much, but to see it confirmed is just breathtaking. The victim gets raked over the coals while the shooter gets the benefit of anonymity.

52 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2014 10:17:56pm

Very skeptical of this. For all we know, Dum Jim and company could be behind this as an attempt to muddy threatens even more. If it’s shown to be fake/a hoax - Look! LGF trying to push lies to protect that thug!

This just sounds all too convenient.

53 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:19:53pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

Then they’ve duped the FBI as well.

54 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 10:20:45pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

The guy on the recording was reportedly interviewed by the FBI. In any case, I put a big fat caveat in the post. Nobody can accuse me of rushing to judgment here.

55 Weet  Aug 25, 2014 10:21:24pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

Very skeptical of this.

Watch the lawyer talk about it. Looks real to me.

Link

56 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 10:22:34pm

re: #53 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Then they’ve duped the FBI as well.

That’s the main reason I have hope. Those f*****s have no care for anything but their agency - in a case like this that helps ;)

57 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 10:24:07pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

I figured as much, but to see it confirmed is just breathtaking. The victim gets raked over the coals while the shooter gets the benefit of anonymity.

Yep, akin to destruction of evidence sanctioned by the police, he got to scrub himself clean of anything said online that might even be considered intemperate, much less racist or inflammatory.

So he gets to remain a cypher while everything Michael Brown ever did, said, or wrote (rap lyrics?) gets dissected for public viewing.

58 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 10:25:12pm

Considering the FBI is involved, I’m hopeful we’ll know the answer of its authenticity within the next few days, now that CNN has aired it.

59 gwangung  Aug 25, 2014 10:25:52pm

re: #57 ausador

Yep, akin to destruction of evidence sanctioned by the police, he got to scrub himself clean of anything said online that might even be considered intemperate, much less racist or inflammatory.

So he gets to remain a cypher while everything Michael Brown ever did, said, or wrote (rap lyrics?) gets dissected for public viewing.

Like I said, obstruction of justice.

Ought to be a federal case there….

60 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:26:26pm

Just watched CNN interviewing the lawyer and playing the tape. Sounds pretty damning.

61 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 10:27:09pm

re: #55 Weet

Watch the lawyer talk about it. Looks real to me.

Link

Yes, this is looking like it’s genuine.

62 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:28:08pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Yes, this is looking like it’s genuine.

Kind of hard to fake considering it was audio from a video call where it sounds like the guy was putting the moves on a girl lol.

63 Targetpractice  Aug 25, 2014 10:29:55pm

re: #59 gwangung

Like I said, obstruction of justice.

Ought to be a federal case there….

That or tampering with evidence. No different than an insider giving a murder suspect a heads-up that the cops are on their way to search his house so he has time to hide or destroy any incriminating evidence. I don’t suspect Wilson had anything on his social media posting that would incriminate him, but I imagine there was plenty there that would give the public a good idea of just what sort of man he is.

64 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 25, 2014 10:31:59pm

Called it:

Gunshots are audible over a very large distance. Competent and unbiased investigators would be scouring the neighborhood for any audio devices that might have recorded the shots.

65 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:32:20pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

That or tampering with evidence. No different than an insider giving a murder suspect a heads-up that the cops are on their way to search his house so he has time to hide or destroy any incriminating evidence. I don’t suspect Wilson had anything on his social media posting that would incriminate him, but I imagine there was plenty there that would give the public a good idea of just what sort of man he is.

Yup i bet he had a bunch of shit that would contribute to motive

66 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 10:39:31pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel

Called it:

Clapping. That was a good call - I remember reading it and thinking you were right, I just didn’t expect them to find anything.

67 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 10:45:22pm

The lawyer also says 11 shots. He emptied his gun at Michael Brown.

And there’s no isolated single shot that could have been inside the car.

68 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 25, 2014 10:52:29pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Nope. No inside the car shot nor anything remotely resembling a “struggle for the gun” shot either.

69 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 10:52:51pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

The lawyer also says 11 shots. He emptied his gun at Michael Brown.

And there’s no isolated single shot that could have been inside the car.

Do we know what firearm the officer carried? I know your usual disdain for gun nut things but in this case it may help understand things.

70 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 10:58:13pm

re: #69 William Barnett-Lewis

Do we know what firearm the officer carried? I know your usual disdain for gun nut things but in this case it may help understand things.

The police chief got asked that at the first press conference, as in how many rounds their service weapons held. I just can’t remember if it was 10+1 or 11+1. Went back and looked at some of the youtube videos of the press conferences just now (since my post #40) but I haven’t found that particular Q and A yet.

71 CuriousLurker  Aug 25, 2014 11:00:03pm

Drive-by Alert: Dead thread troll defending Hoft.

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72 Tigger2  Aug 25, 2014 11:02:24pm

re: #71 CuriousLurker

Drive-by Alert: Dead thread troll defending Hoft.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Duly down-dinged.

73 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 11:02:43pm

re: #71 CuriousLurker

>Drive-by Alert: Dead thread troll defending Hoft.

littlegreenfootballs.com

A nasty one, too.

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 11:04:27pm

re: #70 ausador

The police chief got asked that at the first press conference, as in how many rounds their service weapons held. I just can’t remember if it was 10+1 or 11+1. Went back and looked at some of the youtube videos of the press conferences just now (since my post #40) but I haven’t found that particular Q and A yet.

10+1 or even regular 11 would fit here. Problem is that .40 S&W Glocks (my understanding of what they carry) are 9+1, 13+1 or 15+1. I may well be wrong though.

75 teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2014 11:05:07pm

After the horribly shitty day I’ve had I think I’ve had enough to drink tonight to makes some comments.

I don’t know what the Ferguson PD carries as a sidearm on patrol, but if I had to average it out it was most likely a .40 cal, which a standard sized gun and clip would make for a 10 bullet magazine with one in the chamber.

It sounds like Officer Wilson unloaded his weapon on Michael Brown, bullet for bullet. And the whole first shot theory is blown apart if this audio is credible.

76 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 11:05:22pm

re: #71 CuriousLurker

Aw, not fast enough to downding the troll. I haz a sad…

77 Tigger2  Aug 25, 2014 11:05:43pm

re: #71 CuriousLurker

Drive-by Alert: Dead thread troll defending Hoft.

littlegreenfootballs.com

It’s prob Hoft. haha

78 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2014 11:08:43pm

Empty clip, empty incident report. Almost Zen in its simplicity…

79 goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2014 11:12:49pm

re: #74 William Barnett-Lewis

10+1 or even regular 11 would fit here. Problem is that .40 S&W Glocks (my understanding of what they carry) are 9+1, 13+1 or 15+1. I may well be wrong though.

Sig 226 and 229 hold 12 in .40. The +1 won’t come into play unless the officer makes a habit of topping off a magazine after stripping off a round. If one round was fired inside the SUV then it adds up. Might add up anyway, since the second rapid fire group in the recording is difficult to count accurately, at least 4 shots there, could easily be 5 or maybe even 6.

80 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2014 11:15:28pm

God, I love Glock talk

81 goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2014 11:15:29pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

It sounds like Officer Wilson unloaded his weapon on Michael Brown, bullet for bullet. And the whole first shot theory is blown apart if this audio is credible.

That second round of shots is very difficult to justify in my mind, especially considering the officer still had plenty of distance and Brown had to have been hit a couple of times by then. Of course if as reported the first shots occurred as Brown was running away then those shots aren’t justifiable either. The whole thing stinks.

82 goddamnedfrank  Aug 25, 2014 11:17:35pm

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

The difficult thing about counting the rapid fire shots is that there’s an obvious echo as the reports reflect off of nearby structures.

83 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 25, 2014 11:18:46pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

Very skeptical of this. For all we know, Dum Jim and company could be behind this as an attempt to muddy threatens the waters even more. If it’s shown to be fake/a hoax - Look! LGF trying to push lies to protect that thug!

This just sounds all too convenient.

Oops.

84 teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2014 11:19:23pm

I’ve shot 9mm handguns, .40 cal handguns and .45 ACP handguns and all of them had clips that held less than 11 bullets. If this audio recording holds up to scrutiny, Officer Wilson unloaded his gun on August 9th on an unarmed teenager in the middle of the street. It’s murder, through and through.

85 Stanley Sea  Aug 25, 2014 11:22:04pm

Ack must sleep or my brain wb jello tomorrow. I’ll catch the conversation tomorrow.

86 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 11:23:24pm
87 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 11:24:23pm

Well by the morning I am sure some of the internet tech wizards will have it slowed down, enhanced and mapped on a shot by shot sound graph showing shot timing to the millisecond.

I don’t think the police would lie about the shot in the car though, especially since the St. Louis County Chief confirmed that they “found evidence of that shot” inside the SUV.

re: #79 goddamnedfrank

Sig 226 and 229 hold 12 in .40. The +1 won’t come into play unless the officer makes a habit of topping off a magazine after stripping off a round. If one round was fired inside the SUV then it adds up. Might add up anyway, since the second rapid fire group in the recording is difficult to count accurately, at least 4 shots there, could easily be 5.

This would explain it nicely, damn I need to go find a video of that press conference…

88 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 11:24:27pm

That’s possible - the first shot may not have been recorded.

89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2014 11:26:00pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

That’s possible - the first shot may not have been recorded.

That’s the one that killed JFK?

90 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 25, 2014 11:26:51pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

I’ve shot 9mm handguns, .40 cal handguns and .45 ACP handguns and all of them had clips that held less than 11 bullets. If this audio recording holds up to scrutiny, Officer Wilson unloaded his gun on August 9th on an unarmed teenager in the middle of the street. It’s murder, through and through.

I’ve legally shot all three with magazines larger than 11. Don’t mistake your state’s laws for other states laws.

91 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 11:27:00pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

Thanks, didn’t feel like hunting for that video right now. :(

92 teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2014 11:33:32pm

re: #90 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve legally shot all three with magazines larger than 11. Don’t mistake your state’s laws for other states laws.

I’m certainly not mistaking state laws, and I am aware of bigger magazines for cops and those who pass the background check (I’ve also shot a H&K MP5, the owner of the weapon served in Vietnam and has been a cop for over 30 years).

Frankly, I confuse the clip capacity of certain calibers of semi-automatic pistols. You’re probably more correct than I am about the number of bullets a clip for a certain caliber of pistol can handle.

Still, the fusillade of bullets we hear in the recording is suspicious, tragic, and totally unavoidable. What about the police’s numerous non-lethal methods of compliance?

93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2014 11:37:38pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

Fox is selling us the image of the “big, scary black man”, which must cause palpitations and send shivers down the spines of a lot of their viewers.

But is that supposed to be the reaction of a trained, armed policeman, one supposedly trained in use of minimal force?

94 ausador  Aug 25, 2014 11:39:46pm

Just got my first LGF stalker tweet in months, wonder what I said this time that was worthy of DoD attention? The same fake Gus that got mentioned here a couple of days ago @TGUS_807.

95 teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2014 11:44:12pm

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Fox is selling us the image of the “big, scary black man”, which must cause palpitations and send shivers down the spines of a lot of their viewers.

But is that supposed to be the reaction of a trained, armed policeman, one supposedly trained in use of minimal force?

No.

96 Charles Johnson  Aug 25, 2014 11:45:44pm

re: #94 ausador

Block and report. Best not to ever engage.

97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2014 11:45:54pm

re: #95 teleskiguy

No.

Which is why Michael Brown must be blown up into a major threat against society, one who deserved to die in the streets. Sickening.

98 teleskiguy  Aug 25, 2014 11:50:04pm

I own rifles and shotguns. I don’t own any pistols as I’ve always had an aversion to them (they were designed to kill people, simple as that, just look at early Samuel Colt advertisements). Though I’ve shot many pistols, I refuse to own one because of its explicitly intended purpose, killing other humans.

I’m a gun owner with a clear gun bias.

99 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 25, 2014 11:52:12pm

re: #98 teleskiguy

I own rifles and shotguns. I don’t own any pistols as I’ve always had an aversion to them (they were designed to kill home invaders and thugs out on the streets who are assaulting you).

FTFW (fixed that for Wilson)

100 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 25, 2014 11:58:52pm

Doesn’t quite seem to mesh with the witness statements…

101 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 26, 2014 12:03:59am

re: #98 teleskiguy

While I can respect that in theory, I have two things to mention.

First there are too many neo-nazi’s & neo-confederates up here in the northwoods to ignore.

Second, I have an Asian son (adopted from Vietnam in 2002.) I have seen how people up here “relate” to Asians. I will defend him to my dying day.

To do so, I will concealed carry until I am either dead or I do not need to. This being America, alas, I’ll have that 1911 on me when they haul me to the undertakers.

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 12:07:02am

re: #101 William Barnett-Lewis

… there are too many neo-nazi’s & neo-confederates up here in the northwoods to ignore.

All of whom are convinced that they are the Good Guys with Guns…

103 teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2014 12:12:01am

re: #101 William Barnett-Lewis

While I can respect that in theory, I have two things to mention.

First there are too many neo-nazi’s & neo-confederates up here in the northwoods to ignore.

Second, I have an Asian son (adopted from Vietnam in 2002.) I have seen how people up here “relate” to Asians. I will defend him to my dying day.

To do so, I will concealed carry until I am either dead or I do not need to. This being America, alas, I’ll have that 1911 on me when they haul me to the undertakers.

I grew up in a bedroom community of one of the largest (economically and sheer size) ski areas in North America. Crime rates are comically low. So we obviously are in totally different parts of the world. I respect that, and I respect a US citizens’ right to bear arms.

That said, it still disheartens me the sheer amount of needless gun violence in the United States. We’ve got a gun problem.

104 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 12:14:46am

re: #87 ausador

I don’t think the police would lie about the shot in the car though,

If the cops lied, then so did the witnesses. Because the first shot was fired separately (from within the car) acc. to both sides.

105 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 12:20:44am

Clear (12 second) version of the shooting audio posted above by Charles.
(re-posted to save scrolling)

Youtube Video

After some careful listening with headphones I count six shots, an almost 4 second pause, followed by four more shots. Total of 10 altogether.

How does that work with the other known facts? If it is only possible for one of the wounds to come from behind (the forearm wound) according to Dr. Baden something here does not add up.

He could not have been hit five more times after turning (during pause?) if only four more shots were fired.

Did he turn while the first group of shots was still being fired and get hit then?

Did the wound on his hand come earlier, from the shot that was fired in the police car maybe? (what happened to the gunshot residue then?)

Sigh, with only four shots in that second group it seems there is still no easily guessable or straightforward theory to explain what happened. :(

106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 12:24:06am

re: #105 ausador

Sigh, with only four shots in that second group it seems there is still no easily guessable or straightforward theory to explain what happened. :(

Therefore it is all Lies From the Pit of Hell and should be ignored as irrelevant. Now let’s get back to releasing the Facts of Michael Brown’s juvenile records…

107 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 12:25:07am

re: #105 ausador

Been thinking the same thing. The distribution of shots doesn’t seem to match the evidence we have easily. So, better to wait until this is confirmed.

108 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 12:29:21am

re: #105 ausador

I will say tho that I count 5 shots in the second group.

109 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 12:40:00am

re: #108 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I will say tho that I count 5 shots in the second group.

I thought so at first too, I said five upthread, but after listening more with good headphones instead of speakers I’m now fairly sure it was only four.

Later today someone will have it all mapped it to the millisecond and we will be able to see them on a sound wave graph probably.

110 goddamnedfrank  Aug 26, 2014 12:42:18am

re: #109 ausador

I imported the file into Adobe SoundBooth and time stretched it by 200%. I’m pretty sure it’s four shots in the second group, ten total on the file.

111 goddamnedfrank  Aug 26, 2014 12:45:26am

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

I also tried to isolate a bunch of different frequency bands to see if I could separate the shots from the guy’s voice, but the results weren’t spectacular. That shit overlaps like crazy. I’m an imaging geek, I have some forensic audio tools lying around from a past life but it’s not something I really have any expertise in.

112 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 12:46:57am

re: #105 ausador

Acc. to DJ, the first shot did wound him. So the 5 shots in the 2nd group were enough to reach the autopsy’s 6. This assumes that none of the 6 1st group shots hit and none of the 5 2nd group shots missed. Which seems unusual, though of course far from impossible.

The problem is that the witnesses seem to indicate that there were 2-3 shots in the 1st group. That’s not an insurmountable problem, since witness perception is always faulty in some way, but still.

So, seemingly one can make the recording and the witnesses mesh, but it’s still imperative to wait for a confirmation.

113 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 12:48:11am

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

OK, then all we can do is wait.

114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 12:52:17am

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

I imported the file into Adobe SoundBooth and time stretched it by 200%. I’m pretty sure it’s four shots in the second group, ten total on the file.

Have you played it backward and tried to hear “I buried Paul” in there?

115 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 12:56:01am

re: #112 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

We are sitting here listening to the thing multiple times and can’t immediately agree on the number of shots. I’m not a bit surprised that an eyewitness, hearing them only once and “out of the blue,” can’t accurately state the exact count either.

116 Targetpractice  Aug 26, 2014 1:06:24am

re: #115 ausador

We are sitting here listening to the thing multiple times and can’t immediately agree on the number of shots. I’m not a bit surprised that an eyewitness, hearing them only once and “out of the blue,” can’t accurately state the exact count either.

I imagine the witnesses were focused less on the number of shots and more on the results of those shots.

117 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 1:07:30am

re: #116 Targetpractice

I imagine the witnesses were focused less on the number of shots and more on RACE.

FTFF (Fixed that for Fox)

118 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 1:08:18am

re: #115 ausador

Sure, though I would argue that there is a noticeable difference between hearing 2-3 and 6. That said, this is not unusual for eyewitnesses. I’ve seen such contradictions hundreds of times. All I’m saying is, let’s see if this is at all confirmed. If it is, then we can accept it as a case of slightly faulty perception.

BTW, youtube allows slowing down videos, so I slowed it down by half and still can’t say it’s 4 shots in the 2nd group. Could be five IMHO. Unclear.

119 Targetpractice  Aug 26, 2014 1:11:30am

Personally, I would say that if this is confirmed as genuine, the focus should not be on the number of shots but instead the spacing between them. The audible pause and the more focused manner the final shots come in suggest that Wilson was not as panicked as we’ve been told he was when Brown “charged.”

120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 1:15:00am

re: #119 Targetpractice

If genuine, the audio is incriminating either way. Shooting 10-11 bullets into an unarmed person?

121 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 1:18:49am

The audio is getting major blowback on twitter, the wingnuts aren’t anywhere close to believing it’s real.

122 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 1:21:21am

re: #120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If genuine, the audio is incriminating either way. Shooting 10-11 bullets into an “unarmed” person big, scary negro?

FTFF.

/

123 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 1:26:33am

See a lot of people online saying seven shots in the first group now, not what I hear, but whatever.

Where is CSI Miami and all their high tech enhancement gadgets when you need them?

/

124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 1:28:14am

re: #123 ausador

See a lot of people online saying seven shots in the first group now, not what I hear, but whatever.

Where is CSI Miami and all their high tech enhancement gadgets when you need them?

/

Where was the Ferguson PD and a simple, comprehensive incident report when we all needed it?

125 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 1:31:03am

re: #123 ausador

‘Cept the 1st group is very clear, no way it’s 7.

126 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 1:32:21am

We can be sure that Officer Wilson has the best idea and recollection of how many shots he fired, but we have no record of it. Wonder why…

127 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 1:35:54am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We can be sure that Officer Wilson has the best idea and recollection of how many shots he fired, but we have no record of it. Wonder why…

Too true.

128 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 1:42:22am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Where was the Ferguson PD and a simple, comprehensive incident report when we all needed it?

They handed the investigation off to the St. Louis County Police, Ferguson chief said from the morning of day two that all paperwork, reports, investigation work would be from the county, not them. Press filed FOIAs with Ferguson instead of county anyway and then seemed surprised when Ferguson didn’t have any paperwork except routine dispatch logs.

I never expected the officer to file a report or make a formal statement because that could compromise his possible defense options. If he had been stupid enough to put something down on paper he would have done it with the county police and not with Ferguson P.D. anyway.

129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 1:47:59am

re: #128 ausador

All in all, this mishandling of the incident should be the focal point of the investigation, not the details of Michael Brown’s past history, any stray “X-rays” posted on the Internets or tapes of gunshots in the night.

130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 1:51:21am

re: #128 ausador

Isn’t it obligatory to file a report?

131 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 2:03:48am

re: #130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Isn’t it obligatory to file a report?

Police officers are covered by the Garrity ruling…

In 1961, the New Jersey attorney general began investigating allegations that traffic tickets were being “fixed” in the townships of Bellmawr and Barrington. The investigation focused on Bellmawr police chief Edward Garrity and five other employees. When questioned, each was warned that anything they said might be used against them in a criminal proceeding, and that they could refuse to answer questions in order to avoid self-incrimination. However, they were also told that if they refused to answer, they would be terminated. Rather than lose their jobs, they answered the investigators’ questions. Their statements were then used in their prosecutions - over their objections - and they were convicted.

The U.S. Supreme Court then ruled in 1967’s Garrity v. New Jersey that the employees’ statements, made under threat of termination, were compelled by the state in violation of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. The decision asserted that “the option to lose their means of livelihood or pay the penalty of self-incrimination is the antithesis of free choice to speak or to remain silent.” Therefore, because the employees’ statements were compelled, it was unconstitutional to use the statements in a prosecution. Their convictions were overturned.

Before questioning the officer is given a “Garrity Warning” just as a civilian gets a Miranda Warning…

A typical Garrity warning (exact wording varies between State or local investigative agencies) may read as follows:

You are being asked to provide information as part of an internal and/or administrative investigation. This is a voluntary interview and you do not have to answer questions if your answers would tend to implicate you in a crime. No disciplinary action will be taken against you solely for refusing to answer questions. However, the evidentiary value of your silence may be considered in administrative proceedings as part of the facts surrounding your case. Any statement you do choose to provide may be used as evidence in criminal and/or administrative proceedings.

So the answer is no, it would violate the officers fifth and fourteenth amendment rights to compel him to file a report or make a formal statement about an incident for which he may be prosecuted.

132 goddamnedfrank  Aug 26, 2014 2:09:37am

These derp-bags are just precious:

133 goddamnedfrank  Aug 26, 2014 2:15:20am

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Bonus points for twitter pic with Anthony Cumia.

134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 2:17:55am

re: #131 ausador

This pertains to questioning as a part of some investigation.

What I’m talking about is an incident report that I assume cops are obligated to file as a part of their job. Since any shooting may lead to a potential prosecution, that would mean - if you are right - that no shooting reports are ever filed. Which sort of contradicts the whole purpose of the existence of the police, given that absence of such reports is hardly compatible with law & order.

135 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 2:19:20am
136 goddamnedfrank  Aug 26, 2014 2:20:25am

re: #134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This pertains to questioning as a part of some investigation.

What I’m talking about is an incident report that I assume cops are obligated to file as a part of their job. Since any shooting may lead to a potential prosecution, that would mean - if you are right - that no shooting reports are ever filed. Which sort of contradicts the whole purpose of the existence of the police, given that absence of such reports is hardly compatible with law & order.

It doesn’t make any sense. You’d think at the very least that kind of grossly unprofessional behavior would cause an automatic loss of one’s job.

137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 2:25:07am

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

It doesn’t make any sense. You’d think at the very least that kind of grossly unprofessional behavior would cause an automatic loss of one’s job.

And that is up to the Police Department to produce some sort of account of what happened.

138 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 2:26:05am

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

It doesn’t make any sense. You’d think at the very least that kind of grossly unprofessional behavior would cause an automatic loss of one’s job.

It may very well be that if an officer feels that creating such a report would risk prosecution, he won’t write it and cannot be compelled to do so. Just as a brute fact, without respect for “should”.

But the fact that he didn’t do his job (by filing a report) still remains and should lead to an automatic firing. No, it’s not analogous to the Garrity case, since taking a part in an investigation is not a part of the job, so threats of termination for lack of compliance are unconstitutional. Filing a report, however, is a part of the job.

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 2:28:33am

An awful lot of the outrage that led to the demonstrations (and later to the rioting) was the Ferguson Police Department’s information policies. These should be a lot more central to the investigation.

140 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 2:43:30am

re: #134 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This pertains to questioning as a part of some investigation.

What I’m talking about is an incident report that I assume cops are obligated to file as a part of their job. Since any shooting may lead to a potential prosecution, that would mean - if you are right - that no shooting reports are ever filed. Which sort of contradicts the whole purpose of the existence of the police, given that absence of such reports is hardly compatible with law & order.

An officer who has a shooting incident is not ever the one to fill out the investigative/incident report on it. The officer and witnesses are questioned and evidence is reviewed by detectives of his own or another agency and then they file a report on the incident.

Officer statements during an internal investigation are confidential and are often given after the signing of a Garrity Advisement granting them immunity. In other words they can’t be prosecuted based upon anything they reveal during the interview. This is for a “normal” shooting investigation where there is no indication of wrongdoing or intention of filing charges against the officer.

If a DA is seriously contemplating charges against the officer then the police will be told not to offer the officer Garrity advisement immunity. Because if they get a full and complete statement from the officer that implicates him in wrongdoing they may then face accusations by his defense lawyer. He can possibly argue that they obtained certain evidence solely based on his statement thereby making it inadmissible.

141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 2:50:58am

re: #140 ausador

So there is no obligation to file any immediate report of the form “I’m …, on xx.xx.xx while on duty I saw …, … had to shoot because …”? If so, that’s fucked up.

142 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 3:06:16am

re: #141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So there is no obligation to file any immediate report of the form “I’m …, on xx.xx.xx while on duty I saw …, … had to shoot because …”? If so, that’s fucked up.

The department has an obligation to file a report that states the facts of the case as shown by their investigation. The officer has an administrative obligation to assist the incident investigators by giving them a full and accurate accounting of the event.

But due to the Supreme Court Garrity ruling they can’t fire him for refusing to give that accounting. Unless they offer him immunity on the information given in his account first.

143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 3:12:32am

re: #142 ausador

The system is fucked up.

144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 3:13:57am

znak.com

DNR.

A Cossack fighter from the Wolves’ hundred with the call-sign “Buratino”, as he introduced himself, began his story about sweepstakes which had been organized in their unit and consisted of cutting off the heads of Ukrainian POWs. The winner should have received a BMW X6. “…In two weeks I have - one cut-off head, the other not fully sawed off, it was dark. When you cut off the head of an Ukr, at first he says in Russian “mama”, “mamochka”, and only then starts to gurgle and wheeze. Note - not “mamo”, but in Russian - “mamochka…”

145 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 3:16:19am

re: #144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Note: it’s from a Russian journalist, not Ukrainian propaganda.

146 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 3:24:18am

re: #144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

What do expect them to do, after all they are fighting inhuman fascists…

/// :(

147 Teukka  Aug 26, 2014 3:49:56am

re: #144 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Man, sounds like the guys are giving IS a run for their money…

*smh*

148 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 4:08:08am

The Russian paratroopers captured in Ukraine:

censor.net.ua

149 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 4:11:54am
150 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 4:14:25am
151 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 4:16:30am

Putin’s idea of “the Russian world”:

152 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 4:19:59am

153 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 4:28:25am

Who me? Cut medicare? Why don’t be silly…

154 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 4:34:07am
155 Flounder  Aug 26, 2014 4:37:32am

Ford is busy retooling and getting ready for the all new aluminum body F-150 pickup truck.

Carefully choreographed chaos is under way in and around Ford’s historic Dearborn Truck Plant as the automaker races to get it ready to build a very different F-series truck.

On Saturday morning the last steel-bodied 2014 Ford F-150 rolled off the line and workers were ripping up equipment behind it.

Ford has just eight weeks to remove all the equipment and tooling and replace it with new machinery to make the all-new 2015 F-150 with an aluminum body.

I really like the idea of an aluminum body. Since I live in upstate NY, the road salt puts a real beating on vehicle paint systems. I am lucky to get ten years out of a vehicle before they develop “skin cancer”. Now if Ford could drop a small in-line six cylinder diesel in this truck, with a manual transmission, I might buy one. That will never happen.

156 Danny  Aug 26, 2014 4:46:02am

Question. Why do some of the witnesses have a lawyer? I can understand why Dorian Johnson needs one but why others?

157 freetoken  Aug 26, 2014 4:49:10am

re: #155 Flounder

I expect there will be many detractors of the aluminum body. I can already imagine the parallels that will be drawn to the Edsel if sales drop.

158 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 4:55:53am

re: #156 Danny

Question. Why do some of the witnesses have a lawyer? I can understand why Dorian Johnson needs one but why others?

Witnessing can also be legally dangerous, esp. if you’ll be accused of lying to the court.

159 Dark_Falcon  Aug 26, 2014 4:56:21am

re: #156 Danny

Question. Why do some of the witnesses have a lawyer? I can understand why Dorian Johnson needs one but why others?

To make sure that the cops or prosecutor don’t try to twist their stories or threaten them. If its just a witness alone, telling a story the cops don’t want to hear, some dishonest cops have threatened such witnesses with trumped up charges if the witness does not fall into line. Having a lawyer with you greatly reduces the chance of that.

160 Flounder  Aug 26, 2014 4:57:53am

re: #157 freetoken

I was always impressed with Saturn’s body work. They pretty much look great and no rust!

161 Frenchy  Aug 26, 2014 4:59:17am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Surely the honorable men and women of the StLCPD would never engage in such tactics.

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162 KiTA  Aug 26, 2014 5:00:20am

So….

Why isn’t Wilson in custody?

163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 5:01:57am

Svankmajer

164 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 5:10:52am

Lol at Hofts band of uninformed idiots…

Amazon is paying $970 million for Twitch, not Twitchy.
Twitch is a streaming gaming service (Lets plays and walkthroughs) and has nothing to do with MM’s Twitchy which mostly makes fun of people (especially progressives) on twitter.

165 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 5:13:13am

re: #164 ausador

Lol at Hofts band of uninformed idiots…

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Twitch is a streaming gaming service (Lets plays and walkthroughs) and has nothing to do with MM’s Twitchy which mostly makes fun of people (especially progressives) on twitter.

VIDEO GAMES?! DON’T YOU MEAN MURDER SIMULATORS!1!!

166 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 5:14:14am

Wingnuts in a frothing rage today, must be a day ending in “y”

167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 5:16:53am

re: #164 ausador

Lol at Hofts band of uninformed idiots…

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Twitch is a streaming gaming service (Lets plays and walkthroughs) and has nothing to do with MM’s Twitchy which mostly makes fun of people (especially progressives) on twitter.

I’d totally pay 1,000,000,000$ for it. Who wouldn’t?

168 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 5:20:21am

re: #162 KiTA

So….

Why isn’t Wilson in custody?

They are waiting for Josie to call in again and give them another “witness” statement first. She left out the part that explained why officer Wilson had to shoot at his back as he ran…

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169 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 5:21:36am

What, they’re closing down all the BK’s here?

170 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 5:22:15am

Doesn’t Canada have higher taxes than the U.S. I haz a confuse.

171 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 5:24:36am

re: #167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’d totally pay 1,000,000,000$ for it. Who wouldn’t?

With all the content restrictions and copyright infringement B.S. getting worse all the time at YouTube? A lot of the gamers and their fan bases are moving to Twitch instead. Plus you can stream live single player or do multiplayer with groups, hold charity fundraisers, etc, etc…

172 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 5:26:42am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

What, they’re closing down all the BK’s here?

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A threat to the theory that we can run a first-world economy by selling hamburgers to each other.

173 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 5:28:12am

re: #171 ausador

With all the content restrictions and copyright infringement B.S. getting worse all the time at YouTube? A lot of the gamers and their fan bases are moving to Twitch instead. Plus you can stream live single player or do multiplayer with groups, hold charity fundraisers, etc, etc…

Plus you can smear your liberal enemies with this digital analog of the atomic bomb. If an atomic bomb is worth 1 bln, why not Twitchy?

174 Varek Raith  Aug 26, 2014 5:31:08am

re: #164 ausador

Haha, morans.

175 Flounder  Aug 26, 2014 5:35:31am

I missed go topless day in NYC.

176 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 5:36:24am

re: #167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Oops, forgot another important point, you can show all the nudity you want, your audience just has to click a little button that says they are 18 to watch.

Sony, BMG, Nintendo, etc. can’t steal your ad revenue for a video or an entire series of videos by saying it had a snippet of some song they own the rights to in it. Which they do routinely now on YouTube, YouTube even automated searches for them to find to find data signatures matching their copyright holdings.

Impossible to police live streaming on Twitch though.

177 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 5:43:56am
178 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 5:46:23am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

Don’t you know, it’s patriotic to not pay taxes in the country where you started, do most of your business, and for which an inversion means buying a company in Canada and choosing to pay the corporate taxes there, which might actually mean a higher tax rate than after all the credits, deductions, and incentives here in the US.

179 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 5:50:47am

The Ragweed is growing and the Mold Counts are high. I ain’t rising up singing.

you?

180 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 5:53:08am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

What, they’re closing down all the BK’s here?

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eh, can’t we make-it-up in tariffs?

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181 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 5:53:09am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

Every time a conservative whines about high taxes in 2014, an Eisenhower-era IRS agent gets their wings.

182 Schadenboner  Aug 26, 2014 5:54:05am

re: #178 lawhawk

If they’re ending up paying more then it really is pure economic sabotage. They’re cutting off their noses to spite OBUMMERS!

183 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 5:57:16am

For your amusement:

Megyn Kelly Schools Bill O’Reilly On ‘White Privilege’ (VIDEO)

Fox News host Megyn Kelly laid out evidence supporting what a disbelieving Bill O’Reilly called the “white privilege theory” Monday night to explain why the black community in Ferguson, Mo. feels justice won’t be served in the Michael Brown shooting.

Kelly ran down a list of statistics, including the disparity in employment between blacks and whites in Ferguson and that blacks are three times as likely as whites to be subjected to or threatened with force by police.

O’Reilly then challenged those numbers, claiming Attorney General Eric Holder really held the reins in the investigation into the fatal shooting of Brown, an unarmed black teenager, by a white police officer.

184 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 5:57:39am

re: #181 Lidane

Every time a conservative whines about high taxes in 2014, an Eisenhower-era IRS agent gets their wings.

I want to make a little graphic for TCOT

HOW IS JOBBY MADE?

1. Rich people get TAX CUTS
2. Rich people feel generous
3. Workers accept lower pay
4. People create demand for product by buying it

185 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 5:59:18am

re: #182 Schadenboner

I actually don’t buy all the talk of the purchase as leading to an inversion. I think BK has good reason to consider buying Tim Horton’s. You get access to their real estate holdings, their product lines, and you can co-locate products.

Tim Horton’s would do well in the States as a solid competitor to Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbucks, and if you co-locate the BK with TH, you’d have a better breakfast lineup than McDonalds. It works out well for both brands and companies, which is why it makes sense.

It doesn’t make much sense to move the corporate headquarters to Canada.

186 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 6:01:01am

Oh wow, he really struck a nerve with this one, the replies go on forever…

187 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 6:03:31am

Labradors everywhere!
Youtube Video
Before This Public Pool In Idaho Closes For The Year, They Open It To Dogs

188 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 6:03:50am

re: #186 ausador

It’s too bad, really. The cover art was awesome:

189 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 6:13:53am

Stopped clock, blind squirrel, etc. —

Scarborough Tears into GOP: Obama’s Doing What You Want, But All You Do Is Criticize

190 Schadenboner  Aug 26, 2014 6:15:23am

re: #185 lawhawk

I actually don’t buy all the talk of the purchase as leading to an inversion. I think BK has good reason to consider buying Tim Horton’s. You get access to their real estate holdings, their product lines, and you can co-locate products.

Tim Horton’s would do well in the States as a solid competitor to Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbucks, and if you co-locate the BK with TH, you’d have a better breakfast lineup than McDonalds. It works out well for both brands and companies, which is why it makes sense.

It doesn’t make much sense to move the corporate headquarters to Canada.

Something something something, “double-double” taxation joke, something something.

191 ausador  Aug 26, 2014 6:17:26am
192 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 6:23:29am

re: #188 Lidane

It’s too bad, really. The cover art was awesome:

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From xkcd

The hover-over caption is: “I had a hard time with Ayn Rand because I found myself enthusiastically agreeing with the first 90% of every sentence, but getting lost at ‘therefore, be a huge asshole to everyone.’”

From xkcd.com

193 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 6:26:03am

re:
#186

Can’t criticize their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Ayn Rand.

194 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 6:27:30am

re: #193 Bulworth

re:
#186

Can’t criticize their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Ayn Rand.

Yet, they pick-and-choose what they will accept of the dogma, just like every other faith …

195 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 6:29:27am

re:
#181

Lots of Eisenhower-era IRS agents getting their wings, then.

196 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 6:33:48am
197 Ryan King  Aug 26, 2014 6:33:53am

re: #120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If genuine, the audio is incriminating either way. Shooting 10-11 bullets into an unarmed person?

My first thought on hearing it, if it is real:

First barrage = Brown running away
Second Barrage = after Brown throws up hands to surrender

198 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 6:33:55am

It’s National Dog Day?

199 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 6:35:59am
200 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 6:47:12am

If that audio is authentic, then Wilson’s got some explaining to do, which would never happen because of the 5th Amendment right against self incrimination. The pregnant pause between sets of shots would indicate that there was time to take any action other than fire the fatal shots. A call for backup. Something. Anything.

We have no indication that Wilson called for backup. Heck, it’s not like Wilson had to do anything more than reach down on his chest for the transmitter key and say, I need backup.

The FPD report doesn’t indicate any call. Doesn’t indicate that he was in trouble. Nothing.

It’s silent (on that and everything else).

Instead, we have audio that seems to show that Wilson managed to fire off two sets of shots, 11 in total, and 6 hit Brown. That’s more than a few (and debunks the nonsense that the STL county police chief Belmar’s claims that it was a few, but probably not more than that). Wilson essentially unloaded his firearm at Brown.

Since the county police took over the investigation, that means that the firearm should be in their possession. Do they have all 11 casings? Do they have all the bullets recovered from the scene, including those that missed?

Still, if this isn’t authentic, then the person(s) behind the audio has to be held accountable for putting it out there as though it was.

201 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 6:56:19am

Meanwhile, it looks like Hamas and Israel have managed to agree to another ceasefire (which is likely to look like all the other deals that have been proposed, let alone accepted).

202 darthstar  Aug 26, 2014 6:56:22am

Mornin’ everyone. Apparently the Bulgarians know how to get under Russia’s skin.

203 FemNaziBitch  Aug 26, 2014 6:59:17am

Ear Scratches to all!

bbl

204 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 6:59:27am

re: #200 lawhawk

If that audio is authentic, then Wilson’s got some explaining to do, which would never happen because of the 5th Amendment right against self incrimination. The pregnant pause between sets of shots would indicate that there was time to take any action other than fire the fatal shots. A call for backup. Something. Anything.

We have no indication that Wilson called for backup. Heck, it’s not like Wilson had to do anything more than reach down on his chest for the transmitter key and say, I need backup.

The FPD report doesn’t indicate any call. Doesn’t indicate that he was in trouble. Nothing.

It’s silent (on that and everything else).

Instead, we have audio that seems to show that Wilson managed to fire off two sets of shots, 11 in total, and 6 hit Brown. That’s more than a few (and debunks the nonsense that the STL county police chief Belmar’s claims that it was a few, but probably not more than that). Wilson essentially unloaded his firearm at Brown.

Since the county police took over the investigation, that means that the firearm should be in their possession. Do they have all 11 casings? Do they have all the bullets recovered from the scene, including those that missed?

Still, if this isn’t authentic, then the person(s) behind the audio has to be held accountable for putting it out there as though it was.

Most police radios have an “emergency button” which allows the user to hit a single button indicating that they need immediate assistance.

205 b.d.  Aug 26, 2014 7:09:20am

Hope the FBI brings charges against people for what is looking like a grand scale cover up.

206 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 7:10:06am

re: #204 Timothy Watson

Wasn’t aware of that. That he didn’t even press the button makes his actions even more suspect. There’s no indication that he ever called for backup/assistance at any point in the incident.

207 Danny  Aug 26, 2014 7:23:45am

re: #206 lawhawk

The dispatch Event Report indicates that the shooting event was “opened” at 12:02:22. Doesn’t say who called it in, of course, but I’d assume it was Wilson since the next unit to arrive was some minutes later according to the log.

208 sattv4u2  Aug 26, 2014 7:27:23am

re: #200 lawhawk

There are two plausible reasons for the pause in the shots fired

1) 1st volley heard is the cop shooting as Brown is fleeing. Cop pauses when Brown stops and turns. 2nd volley starts when Brown starts coming back towards the cop making it possibly a justifiable shooting

2) 1st volley heard is the cop shooting as Brown is fleeing. Cop pauses when Brown stops and turns. 2nd volley as Brown is either standing or kneeling,,, hands up, making the cop a cold blooded killer

209 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 7:27:49am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

The Ragweed is growing and the Mold Counts are high. I ain’t rising up singing.

you?

Morning all!

The air is thick here in Columbus Oh Hi. Luckily we have only been hovering right around 88° to 90° but I wish we still had that weather we had a few weeks back.

But no complaints. Having some heat right now means that at least we may have a decent fall and are not going to plunge into winter too fast and deep.

But who knows? The weather is all over the place any more.

And yes…those I know with allergy issues are suffering…high ragweed counts. And it has been dry which ramps it up.

210 Kid A  Aug 26, 2014 7:28:44am

Oh, what the fuck is this?

211 Mike Lamb  Aug 26, 2014 7:30:00am

re: #208 sattv4u2

There are two plausible reasons for the pause in the shots fired

1) 1st volley heard is the cop shooting as Brown is fleeing. Cop pauses when Brown stops and turns. 2nd volley starts when Brown starts coming back towards the cop making it possibly a justifiable shooting

2) 1st volley heard is the cop shooting as Brown is fleeing. Cop pauses when Brown stops and turns. 2nd volley as Brown is either standing or kneeling,,, hands up, making the cop a cold blooded killer

I think these are both plausible.

212 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 7:30:24am

re: #198 FemNaziBitch

It’s National Dog Day?

Today the #DoD celebrates the courage of canines and thanks them for serving beside our troops

We use them because they save American lives. Other than that, they don’t have a dog in this fight.

“I tell you it is the vilest baseness to use horses in the war.”
—Detering

213 sattv4u2  Aug 26, 2014 7:30:25am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

re: #209 ObserverArt

Mild morning here. Low 70’s with low humidity

Heading to the high 80’s later so yardwork is in my immediate future before the muggys hit

214 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 7:30:36am

re: #208 sattv4u2

Scenario 1 immediately falls apart since none of the witnesses reported Brown “charging” at Wilson or moving towards him.

Scenario 2 is far more plausible.

215 sattv4u2  Aug 26, 2014 7:32:05am

re: #214 Lidane

Scenario 1 immediately falls apart since none of the witnesses reported Brown “charging” at Wilson.

Scenario 2 is far more plausible.

Why is “charging” in quotes?

I didn’t post “charging”. I stated “starts coming back towards the cop “

???

216 Mike Lamb  Aug 26, 2014 7:33:27am

re: #210 Kid A

Oh, what the fuck is this?

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That is epic stupidity.

217 Danny  Aug 26, 2014 7:35:36am

CNN interviews forensic audio expert Paul Ginsberg (around the 4:00 mark).

Youtube Video

218 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 7:38:51am

re: #202 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. Apparently the Bulgarians know how to get under Russia’s skin.
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That photo is from a few years ago. newsland.com

219 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 7:40:31am

re: #202 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. Apparently the Bulgarians know how to get under Russia’s skin.
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That’s from 2011 but still kicks ass.

220 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 7:44:49am

re:
#210

Why does Chuck C. Johnson choose to be such a d4ckhead?

221 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 7:45:44am

re: #208 sattv4u2

re: #215 sattv4u2

Because the only way it could “possibly” justify the 2nd volley if he was indeed charging. Merely coming back does not raise such a possibility.

222 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 7:47:14am

re: #215 sattv4u2

It’s in quotes because the standard argument that Wilson’s defenders are using to justify his murder of Michael Brown is that Brown was charging at him like a bull, or bumrushing him, or was otherwise moving towards him or attacking him after being shot at multiple times.

223 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 7:49:23am

re: #221 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Because the only way it could “possibly” justify the 2nd volley if he was indeed charging. Merely coming back does not raise such a possibility.

Exactly. Brown turning towards Wilson and just coming back towards him doesn’t justify the second barrage of bullets. The ONLY thing that would is if Brown was charging or otherwise running towards Wilson.

That’s why Scenario 2 is far more plausible. All the witnesses there said that Brown turned towards Wilson but put his hands up in surrender and begged for his life. That makes Wilson’s actions murder.

224 gwangung  Aug 26, 2014 7:49:30am

re: #215 sattv4u2

Why is “charging” in quotes?

I didn’t post “charging”. I stated “starts coming back towards the cop “

???

Though, to be honest, that still raises the question of body placement (did the arms fall naturally after a charge), if he didn’t charge, again, why did he shoot, etc.

225 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 7:51:10am

re: #222 Lidane

At least one witness recalls MN “stumbling” towards Wilson, so there was a movement, which, however, doesn’t justify anything.

226 Franklin  Aug 26, 2014 7:51:10am

re: #211 Mike Lamb

I think these are both plausible.

#1 is plausible if he were suicidal.

227 sattv4u2  Aug 26, 2014 7:51:55am

re: #221 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Because the only way it could “possibly” justify the 2nd volley if he was indeed charging. Merely coming back does not raise such a possibility.

The speed at which Brown came back at Wilson (IF indeed he did) makes no difference
THAT he did (again,, IF he did) is the important part

228 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 7:52:31am

re: #226 Franklin

#1 is plausible if he were suicidal.

Yep. And a guy who begs for his life isn’t suicidal.

229 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 7:53:07am

re: #227 sattv4u2

Nothing justifies Wilson emptying his gun into an unarmed Brown.

230 sattv4u2  Aug 26, 2014 7:54:14am

Ah well

Gotta go weed spray before it gets to humid to think out there!

231 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 7:55:58am
232 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 7:57:05am

re: #227 sattv4u2

The speed at which Brown came back at Wilson (IF indeed he did) makes no difference
THAT he did (again,, IF he did) is the important part

No, as long as Brown didn’t pose immediate physical danger DW’s shots weren’t justified.

233 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 7:57:53am

HURR HURR THOSE SOLAR POWERS ARE KILLIN TEH JRRBS!!!!!!

234 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 7:59:31am

YOU DON’T WANT TO MISS THIS!!!!
HAHA JK of course you want to miss this.

235 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:00:59am

re: #231 lawhawk

Oh sure. Of course he did. That makes total sense.

Now imagine the outcry if the victim had been white.

236 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:01:07am

Wingnuts really believe that BK is going to shut down all their franchises in the U.S.

Time’s a wastin’

237 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:01:44am

re: #236 Pie-onist Overlord

No one has ever accused the RWNJs of being smart.

238 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 8:03:14am

re: #225 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

At least one witness recalls MN “stumbling” towards Wilson, so there was a movement, which, however, doesn’t justify anything.

Just for clarification:

James McKnight
James McKnight said he witnessed the shooting and that Brown held his hands in the air just after he turned to face Wilson. “I saw him stumble toward the officer, but not rush at him. The officer was about six or seven feet away from him,” McKnight said.[5]

…

Michael Brady
[…]
As he was falling, Brown took one or two steps toward Wilson because he was presumably hit and was stumbling forward; Wilson then shot him three or four times.

239 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:03:58am

Do wingnuts know that there are Tim Hortons south of the border?

240 b.d.  Aug 26, 2014 8:07:05am

re: #234 Pie-onist Overlord

YOU DON’T WANT TO MISS THIS!!!!
HAHA JK of course you want to miss this.

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At what point do the dudebros realize that they are just talking amongst themselves?

241 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:07:22am

re: #240 b.d.

At what point do the dudebros realize that they are just talking amongst themselves?

Never.

242 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 8:08:14am

RE:
#234

Yawn.

243 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 8:08:49am

re: #239 Pie-onist Overlord

Tim Horton’s (hears a who) can be found across Western and Northern NY, MA, and New England. They’ve even got outposts here in NYC.

Their coffee is much better than that of Starbucks. Probably about even with Dunkin’ Donuts.

244 Ryan King  Aug 26, 2014 8:09:13am

re: #210 Kid A

That’s called Troll Blogging or Troll Journalism. AKA, Trolling for Page Hits.

Of course with those miscreants blogging and journalism are somewhat conflated into the same thing for the same ultimate result: say crazy shit, get page hits and notoriety, with bonus fawning adoration from intellectual knuckledraggers.

245 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:10:18am

re: #243 lawhawk

Tim Horton’s (hears a who) can be found across Western and Northern NY, MA, and New England. They’ve even got outposts here in NYC.

Their coffee is much better than that of Starbucks. Probably about even with Dunkin’ Donuts.

Yeah that was our conclusion after drinking coffee from Detroit to New York, and from Detroit down to Alabama.

Best coffee: Wawa in Pennsylvania

246 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 8:10:37am

Who’s Glenn Greenwald? //

247 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:10:43am

re: #239 Pie-onist Overlord

Do wingnuts know that there are Tim Hortons south of the border?

Tim Hortons has regional corporate offices here in the States. They also sell their coffee in big chains like Bed Bath & Beyond and Target. They’re hardly confined to Canada.

248 Ryan King  Aug 26, 2014 8:12:17am

re: #246 Gus

Who’s Glenn Greenwald? //

WHERE’s GREENWALDO?

249 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 8:13:43am

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah that was our conclusion after drinking coffee from Detroit to New York, and from Detroit down to Alabama.

Best coffee: Wawa in Pennsylvania

We’ve got Wawa’s here in Northern NJ now, and their coffee is quite good. Their mocha is also great if you need the extra caffeine for long drives.

250 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 8:17:39am
251 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 8:19:15am

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

Yeah that was our conclusion after drinking coffee from Detroit to New York, and from Detroit down to Alabama.

Best coffee: Wawa in Pennsylvania

I like Wawa’s coffee bar setup more than anything, especially the half gallon jugs of half-and-half that are a lot more convenient than the annoying dispensing things Sheetz has that are almost always empty.

252 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 8:19:49am

re: #250 Gus

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He’s the proof God made man out of dirt.
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253 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:20:19am

*SETS DESK ON FIRE*

254 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 8:21:42am

re: #250 Gus

Also: not a thug.
/

255 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:21:47am

There is an unending supply of desks here. My boss is always setting desks on fire & throwing them out the window. Some have users tied to them.

256 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:21:48am

re: #253 Pie-onist Overlord

That level of stupidity should be treated like a disability.

257 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:22:30am

re: #256 Lidane

That level of stupidity should be treated like a disability.

Ben is not stupid, but he makes his living pandering to Teh Big Stupids.

258 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 8:23:01am
260 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 8:25:22am

re: #258 lawhawk

Uh, something the was noted yesterday is “breaking” per the AP?

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:26:05am

IF ONLY TEH BLAHS WORKED FOR NO PAY THEY WOULD HAVE 0 UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!!!

262 sagehen  Aug 26, 2014 8:26:22am

re: #258 lawhawk

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We got them to do it this time? We don’t have to do everything ourselves?

HURRAH!!

263 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 8:28:15am

re: #220 Bulworth

re:
#210

Why does Chuck C. Johnson choose to be such a d4ckhead?

Part of the package to be an official Right Wing Nut Job™ Tea Party® Flack member. They have the highest of low standards. Just check out the membership lists.

264 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 8:29:53am

re:
#258

The UAE can launch stuff?

Not really sure if /

265 Franklin  Aug 26, 2014 8:30:14am

re: #243 lawhawk

Tim Horton’s (hears a who) can be found across Western and Northern NY, MA, and New England. They’ve even got outposts here in NYC.

Their coffee is much better than that of Starbucks. Probably about even with Dunkin’ Donuts.

Don’t tell me that, was looking forward to some Boston area Tim Hortons. I love iced coffee and Dunkin Iced Coffee is the worst.

266 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 8:30:35am

re:
#261

why do you libtards keep bringing up race its not all about Race!!!!1111

267 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 8:31:03am

re: #265 Franklin

I don’t drink iced coffee, so I can’t compare.

268 Mike Lamb  Aug 26, 2014 8:32:47am

re: #226 Franklin

#1 is plausible if he were suicidal.

One thought that went through my mind is whether Brown turned around, saw Wilson, realized “This guy is going to kill me!”, and approached Wilson as a last desperate option.

269 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 26, 2014 8:32:52am

Morning Lizards

270 Franklin  Aug 26, 2014 8:34:18am

re: #267 lawhawk

I don’t drink iced coffee, so I can’t compare.

I don’t mind Dunkin hot coffee, I just think that many of the franchisees have quality control issues.

271 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:38:11am

Just a thought, if Canada has lower corporate taxes than the U.S. how do they afford that sweet single-payer health care?

272 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:38:47am

*headdesk*

Pat Robertson: Possibly Gay Teenager Will Be Straight If He Has A Man In His Life

People seriously need to get over the gay thing. The world isn’t going to end if gay men and lesbians exist. It won’t end because bisexual, transgender, genderqueer people exist either. And if you think you can “fix” your gay kid, be prepared for them to hate and/or resent you later in life.

273 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 8:39:17am

re: #247 Lidane

Tim Hortons has regional corporate offices here in the States. They also sell their coffee in big chains like Bed Bath & Beyond and Target. They’re hardly confined to Canada.

At one time Tim Horton’s was merged with Wendy’s who is here in Columbus. So, there are a gazillion of them here in Oh Hi O. Then they went back to being independent in (I think) 2005.

Now they are back in with a burger giant. I wonder if the Tim Horton head honchos still have all their Wendy’s stock from the merger? Would they have to sell it if they join up with another burger slinger?

274 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 8:39:36am

re: #271 Pie-onist Overlord

Just a thought, if Canada has lower corporate taxes than the U.S. how do they afford that sweet single-payer health care?

Well, for one, they’re not in charge of running the world. //

275 Franklin  Aug 26, 2014 8:40:22am

re: #271 Pie-onist Overlord

Just a thought, if Canada has lower corporate taxes than the U.S. how do they afford that sweet single-payer health care?

BUT YOU HAVE TO WAIT 45 DAYS FOR A BANDAID1!!1111

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2014 8:40:23am

Today’s weird news in Kentucky:
Officials: Inmate Overdosed On Methadone Soaked Underwear

Deputies at the jail found 33-year-old Corey McQueary of Stanford unresponsive in his cell Wednesday night. He was taken to St. Joe Jessamine and later pronounced dead by the coroner.
The investigation revealed that 55-year-old Michael Jones of Lexington had soaked a pair of underwear with methadone while he was out of jail on a court ordered furlough. He brought that back to the jail, allegedly shared it with his cell mates and Corey McQueary died as a result of it.
Jones is now charged with murder and other charges.

277 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 26, 2014 8:40:34am

re: #239 Pie-onist Overlord

Do wingnuts know that there are Tim Hortons south of the border?

Actually I didn’t know that. I’ve never seen one, to my knowledge. I think you have to be in the right place.

278 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:41:30am

re: #277 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Actually I didn’t know that. I’ve never seen one, to my knowledge. I think you have to be in the right place.

They are everywhere here. But we are close to the border. :)

279 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:43:06am

My son lives in Canada and he complains that taxes are higher there. But he just loves him some of that sweet single-payer and MAPLEY SYRUP SWEET CHILD TAX BENEFIT which having 7 Canadian anchor babies he gets a whole bunch of.

280 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 26, 2014 8:43:09am

re: #278 Pie-onist Overlord

They are everywhere here. But we are close to the border. :)

Well, I live in MA and visit OH annually, and I’m told they exist in both places. But you couldn’t prove it by me.

281 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 8:43:18am

re: #272 Lidane

*headdesk*

Pat Robertson: Possibly Gay Teenager Will Be Straight If He Has A Man In His Life

People seriously need to get over the gay thing. The world isn’t going to end if gay men and lesbians exist. It won’t end because bisexual, transgender, genderqueer people exist either. And if you think you can “fix” your gay kid, be prepared for them to hate and/or resent you later in life.

That’s a rather clumsy and odd headline. If you know what I mean.

282 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:44:11am

re: #272 Lidane

*headdesk*

Pat Robertson: Possibly Gay Teenager Will Be Straight If He Has A Man In His Life

People seriously need to get over the gay thing. The world isn’t going to end if gay men and lesbians exist. It won’t end because bisexual, transgender, genderqueer people exist either. And if you think you can “fix” your gay kid, be prepared for them to hate and/or resent you later in life.

If he has the *right* man in his life they will get gay-married.

283 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 8:44:37am

Cease. Fire?

Seeing lots of reports about mortar/rocket fire from Gaza into Israel even though there’s an impending ceasefire. Figures.

284 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 26, 2014 8:44:38am

re: #281 ObserverArt

That’s a rather clumsy and odd headline. If you know what I mean.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

285 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 26, 2014 8:45:32am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

The investigation revealed that 55-year-old Michael Jones of Lexington had soaked a pair of underwear with methadone while he was out of jail on a court ordered furlough. He brought that back to the jail, allegedly shared it with his cell mates and Corey McQueary died as a result of it.

Adds new meaning to “Eat my shorts.”

286 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:45:52am

re: #277 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I’ve never seen one, to my knowledge. I think you have to be in the right place.

They’re not here in Austin as far as I know, but I’ve had their coffee. When I bought my Keurig it had a few sample K-Cups of Tim Hortons. I liked it. That’s as close as I’ve ever gotten though.

287 Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2014 8:49:32am

re: #253 Pie-onist Overlord

*SETS DESK ON FIRE*

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Someone tell little Ben that all these wars he wants do have to be paid for somehow. Sure, I know we still haven’t thrown everyone off of SS and Medicare, and you can still get SNAP benefits if you need them, but when WAR WAR WAR is your only policy, it still has to be paid for and eliminating taxes isn’t the way to do it.

Perhaps Benny thinks we could just loot and plunder the countries we invade and maybe pull out the gold teeth and collect the hair of the people we kill. There is a historical precedent for that, although that country still managed to lose the war and get their country destroyed in the bargain.

288 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:52:20am

re: #287 Skip Intro

Perhaps Benny thinks we could just loot and plunder the countries we invade and maybe pull out the gold teeth and collect the hair of the people we kill.

Don’t you remember? That’s how we paid for the Iraq war. We invaded, overthrew Saddam, and the Iraqis gratefully allowed us to loot and plunder their oil to pay for it all.

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289 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:53:37am

Didn’t Jesus bust up a bunch of chairs & tables in the temple courtyard? He was no angel.

290 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2014 8:53:45am
291 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 8:55:59am

Missing the Goddamn Point, political advertising edition:

GOPer On Ad With Foley Killer: Journalist Not Depicted Out Of Respect

Republican Allen Weh’s U.S. Senate campaign said a campaign video that featured the image of the masked man that beheaded journalist James Foley did not use Foley’s image itself out of respect for Foley’s family.

“Out of respect for the Foley family, no picture of James Foley was used,” Weh campaign manager Diego Espinoza told Politico in an email published in the Morning Score newsletter. “Tom Udall’s feigned outrage over the inclusion of a now familiar image of this Jihadi terrorist, who is clearly the face of the evil that threatens our nation. [sic] Senator Udall’s comments about our diplomacy being ‘good’ reflect his naiveté and inexperience in matters of national security.”

The original ad is here.

292 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:56:28am
293 Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2014 8:57:19am

re: #289 Pie-onist Overlord

Didn’t Jesus bust up a bunch of chairs & tables in the temple courtyard? He was no angel.

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Jesus disrupted a necessary business in the Temple by attacking the people there who were just trying to make a living.

That’s what a Thug does. I bet he made gang signs too.

294 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 8:58:52am

Florida Threesome.

Meth suspects threw toilet, sink at imagined attackers, officers say

dothaneagle.com

295 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 8:59:10am

re: #293 Skip Intro

Jesus disrupted a necessary business in the Temple by attacking the people there who were just trying to make a living.

That’s what a Thug does. I bet he made gang signs too.

Gangsta

296 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 9:00:12am
297 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 9:02:33am

re: #295 Pie-onist Overlord

Gangsta

Common gang tat.

Image: 11bc9a7567f4e397e8be4efe99835af4.jpg

298 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 9:03:18am

re: #293 Skip Intro

Jesus disrupted a necessary business in the Temple by attacking the people there who were just trying to make a living.

That’s what a Thug does. I bet he made gang signs too.

He was a damn leftist commie hippie!!!

299 Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2014 9:03:41am

re: #295 Pie-onist Overlord

I knew it!

And look those gang symbols on his clothing. A cross and crown of thorns.

So Jesus was in on it from the begging. I’m detecting a conspiracy to defraud here. Maybe he really did head off to France with Mary Magdalene after all.

300 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:03:58am
301 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2014 9:05:13am

gangsta women in uniform…

302 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 9:05:33am

re: #300 Gus

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What’s going on in the ME???

Cats and Dogs working together!

That Damn Obama!!!

303 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:05:38am
304 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 9:08:12am

re: #264 Bulworth

re:
#258

The UAE can launch stuff?

Not really sure if /

From the oldies file:
CANADIAN WARSHIP SEIZES TANKER IN… WAIT… CANADA HAS A WARSHIP?

With apologies to the Canadians in the audience.

305 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:08:54am

Hamas still fucking off however.

306 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:09:42am
308 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 9:11:12am

re: #307 Lidane

WTFITS:

Fischer: Valerie Jarrett Ordered Bin Laden Raid Without Even Consulting President Obama

HURR HURR VALERIE JARRETT IS TEH SEEKRIT OVERLORD!!!!!!

309 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:11:39am
310 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:11:49am

[Flips desk.]

311 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 9:12:42am

re: #307 Lidane

WTFITS:

Fischer: Valerie Jarrett Ordered Bin Laden Raid Without Even Consulting President Obama

How can you be that jacked up and stay out of jail/psych ward? Sooner or later the Silver Loon is going to act out.

312 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 9:12:53am

re: #272 Lidane

*headdesk*

Pat Robertson: Possibly Gay Teenager Will Be Straight If He Has A Man In His Life

This on the heels of “naked boobs lead to homosexuality”. Hmm……

313 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 26, 2014 9:14:00am

re: #312 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This on the heels of “naked boobs lead to homosexuality”. Hmm……

That didn’t work for me. Just sayin’.

314 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 9:15:12am

re: #158 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Witnessing can also be legally dangerous, esp. if you’ll be accused of lying to the court.

Which they can just about count on…

315 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 9:15:14am

re: #313 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

That didn’t work for me. Just sayin’.

The effect might be paradoxical in the young.

316 Kaessa  Aug 26, 2014 9:16:29am

re: #75 teleskiguy

I don’t know what the Ferguson PD carries as a sidearm on patrol, but if I had to average it out it was most likely a .40 cal, which a standard sized gun and clip would make for a 10 bullet magazine with one in the chamber.

I know I’m a little late, but I have a 40 S&W (Springfield XD40) that holds 12+1. You can fit a lot more rounds in a 40 than you can in a 45.

317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 9:16:41am

re: #169 Pie-onist Overlord

Burger King just the latest Corporation to Flee to Canada to escape Obama’s Draconian Corporate Taxes! Taking JOBS with them!

They are probably fleeing socialized medicine,,,oops..wait…

318 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:19:09am
319 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:19:25am
320 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 9:20:08am
321 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 26, 2014 9:20:49am

re: #309 Gus

Hamas is not in control of every armed faction within Gaza. While Hamas may honor the ceasefire there are plenty of others who will not. Hamas will get the blame.

322 Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2014 9:23:08am

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

IF ONLY TEH BLAHS WORKED FOR NO PAY THEY WOULD HAVE 0 UNEMPLOYMENT!!!!!!!!

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As if Conservatives really care about Black employment. LOL

323 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 9:23:15am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Burger King just the latest Corporation to Flee to Canada to escape Obama’s Draconian Corporate Taxes! Taking JOBS with them!

They are probably fleeing socialized medicine,,,oops..wait…

And minimum wage laws! Oh wait no…

324 wrenchwench  Aug 26, 2014 9:23:38am

re: #291 Lidane

Missing the Goddamn Point, political advertising edition:

GOPer On Ad With Foley Killer: Journalist Not Depicted Out Of Respect

The original ad is here.

I was gonna say Weh is a special kind of wingnut, but there’s nothing special about his type any more. Thankfully he has no chance against Udall.

A poll by the Albuquerque Journal shows that Tom Udall has a large lead over Allen Weh in the U.S. Senate race.

The poll shows Udall, the incumbent, has a 53 percent to 35 percent lead over Weh. There are 11 percent who are undecided.

A big part of Udall’s lead comes from his popularity among his base — the Democratic Party. Udall has the support of 79 percent of Democrats according to the poll. He also has the support of 70 percent of Hispanic voters — a massive voting bloc in New Mexico.

Weh actually leads among Anglos, but it is a narrow lead — 48 percent to 43 percent, within the margin of error, especially among subgroups.

[…]

325 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:27:37am
326 Kid A  Aug 26, 2014 9:28:03am
327 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:29:12am

re: #326 Kid A

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328 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 9:29:26am

re: #324 wrenchwench

*sigh*

They just can’t help themselves.

Fox pundit: Images from Foley beheading video are ‘perfectly fair’ for GOP campaign ads

Conservative radio host Lars Larson told Fox News on Tuesday that it was “perfectly fair” for Republican candidates to use images from a video of an American journalist being beheaded in campaign ads attacking President Barack Obama.

A campaign video advertisement released on Monday by New Mexican Republican Senate candidate Allen Weh includes a frame from a gruesome video which showed the beheading of American photographer James Foley. The ad crops out Foley so only the disturbing image of the masked killer holding a knife is visible.

The ad goes on to slam President Barack Obama for playing golf, and tries to link Weh’s opponent, Democratic Sen. Mark Udall, to the administration’s foreign policy.

329 Eventual Carrion  Aug 26, 2014 9:29:38am

re: #243 lawhawk

Tim Horton’s (hears a who) can be found across Western and Northern NY, MA, and New England. They’ve even got outposts here in NYC.

Their coffee is much better than that of Starbucks. Probably about even with Dunkin’ Donuts.

A new one was just built down the road from work here in NW PA about a year or so ago. Between McDonald’s and the Chipotle. So you have south of the border, the States, and north of the border all in a line.

330 Timothy Watson  Aug 26, 2014 9:30:00am

re: #316 Kaessa

I know I’m a little late, but I have a 40 S&W (Springfield XD40) that holds 12+1. You can fit a lot more rounds in a 40 than you can in a 45.

I hadn’t seen that comment, but yeah, for example, a Glock 22 (.40 S&W) can hold 17+1.

The only picture of a Ferguson officer’s handgun I can find easily is one of the chief and it looks like a SIG Sauer of some type and their magazine capacity varies a bit.
Image: fergusonchief.jpg

331 Kid A  Aug 26, 2014 9:30:23am

re: #327 Gus

This guy has been in the closet longer than Bryan Fischer.

332 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 9:31:48am

re: #327 Gus

Homo communist islamniac sham govt gay Set up & Admitted: Fluoride in Drinking Water Reduces Intelligence

Yes, too much fluoride reduces IQ. And too much water reduces life. Anything new?

333 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 26, 2014 9:33:39am

re: #332 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yes, too much fluoride reduces IQ. And too much water reduces life. Anything new?

I for one am concerned about the high quantities of water in our drinking water.

334 b.d.  Aug 26, 2014 9:34:26am

I wonder how long it takes Glenn and the other Dudebros to pick up and run with this story from the white supremest, Jewish hating all around hate group American Free Press:

AFP EXCLUSIVE: U.S.-Israeli Plot to Kidnap Edward Snowden Foiled - See more at: americanfreepress.net

A plot by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Israel’s Mossad to kidnap National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower Edward Snowden was foiled by agents of Russia’s intelligence agency, the Federal Security Service (FSB). - See more at: americanfreepress.net

We already know how there is no source too vile for these guys.

335 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 9:35:23am

re: #333 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I for one am concerned about the high quantities of water in our drinking water.

Filtration system a marvel to behold it remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

336 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 26, 2014 9:36:50am

re: #327 Gus

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This guy makes Sarah Palin sound intelligent.

337 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 9:36:51am

Time to do an ‘shop update since Bryan seems to be a stuck record on certain subjects…

Dance to the Hot Hits of the Bryan Fischer & The Clueless Preachers

338 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 9:37:17am

re: #334 b.d.

I wonder how long it takes Glenn and the other Dudebros to pick up and run with this story from the white supremest, Jewish hating all around hate group American Free Press:

We already know how there is no source too vile for these guys.

Glenn will totally link it and then be all like HURR HURR AFP=AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE!!!!!!!

339 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 9:37:52am

re: #335 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Filtration system a marvel to behold it remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

PS.

340 wrenchwench  Aug 26, 2014 9:39:49am

re: #328 Lidane

The ad goes on to slam President Barack Obama for playing golf, and tries to link Weh’s opponent, Democratic Sen. Mark Udall, to the administration’s foreign policy.

Weh’s opponent is Tom Udall, not Mark Udall. They are cousins who are both running for Senate (Mark in CO). Dammit, now I have the Patty Duke theme song in my head.

Youtube Video

341 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 9:40:44am

re: #326 Kid A

[@gatewaypundit Black thugs are blacks thugs the gay negrophilia MSM should stop ass kiss protecting causing such systematic leftist attacks.]

Hmmm. I think this guy must be one of the members of Bryan Fischer & The Clueless Preachers.

See photoshop in #337

342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 9:41:00am

re: #334 b.d.

I wonder how long it takes Glenn and the other Dudebros to pick up and run with this story from the white supremest, Jewish hating all around hate group American Free Press:

We already know how there is no source too vile for these guys.

My FSB source says that that other FSB source is a doodoo-head.

343 Eventual Carrion  Aug 26, 2014 9:41:42am

re: #296 Pie-onist Overlord

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Gravy on my onion rings!

344 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 26, 2014 9:41:43am

re: #327 Gus

A case study in how to do stupid, in 140 characters or less.

345 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 9:42:31am

re: #327 Gus

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Man who enjoys his rainwater and pure-grain alcohol, there.

346 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 9:43:40am

re:
#308

Valerie Jarrett runs the State and Defense Departments, the NSA, and the CIA. She personally orchestrated Fast&Furious, the IRS scandal, and the Benghazi attacks including the cover-up. She’s a board member of the New Black Panther Party and has pledged allegiance to the Muslim Brotherhood. She ordered Eric Holder to go to Ferguson, Missouri to arrest the cop who shot Michael Brown and now Darren Wilson is in Gitmo. She ran the Obama campaign’s extensive voter fraud project through the group ACORN. She’s also the real president with Barack Obama just being her puppet.

//

347 ObserverArt  Aug 26, 2014 9:44:29am

Back to work…later Lizards.

Keep up the good fight against the stupid.

348 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 9:44:44am

re: #346 Bulworth

re:
#308

Valerie Jarrett runs the State and Defense Departments, the NSA, and the CIA. She personally orchestrated Fast&Furious, the IRS scandal, and the Benghazi attacks including the cover-up. She’s a board member of the New Black Panther Party and has pledged allegiance to the Muslim Brotherhood. She ordered Eric Holder to go to Ferguson, Missouri to arrest the cop who shot Michael Brown and now Darren Wilson is in Gitmo. She ran the Obama campaign’s extensive voter fraud project through the group ACORN. She’s also the real president with Barack Obama just being her puppet.

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VALERIE JARRETT IS TEH LIZARD QUEEN FROM OUTER SPACE!!!!!

349 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 9:46:43am

re:
#334

EXCLUSIVE!!!!!!!111

Gotta be troof then.

/

350 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 9:52:08am

re:
#327

The story there about “Ceasar” funding churches to prepare for the illegal immigration invasion sure is mighty thought provoking.

//

351 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 9:56:00am

DRONES!

352 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 9:56:46am

‘You Stupid Jackass!’: Darren Wilson Supporters Clash with Ferguson Business Owner on CNN

Tensions may have eased between protesters and police in Ferguson since the height of the unrest there last week following the fatal shooting of 18-year-old unarmed Michael Brown by officer Darren Wilson. But as a report aired by CNN this morning demonstrated, the increasingly vocal supporters of Wilson are fueling new conflicts in that Missouri suburb.

Jake Tapper was interviewing a Wilson supporter on the street in Ferguson when a local business owner approached him and started saying he did not want the “controversy” they were bringing to the situation given the fact that his store is in a predominately black area.

“It’s my First Amendment right and I am a United States citizen,” one of the pro-Wilson demonstrators told the business owner.

“I am a United States citizen too!” the man shot back. When another protester asked him if he speaks English, he grew even angrier, responding, “I am speaking English, do you understand that?! You stupid jackass!”

353 BeachDem  Aug 26, 2014 10:01:46am

re: #231 lawhawk

And the cops changed their story from “he shot himself in the back while handcuffed” to “he shot himself in the chest while handcuffed.”

The Iberia Parish Coroner’s Office has released only the first page of the autopsy report, which contradicts statements initially made by State Police who said White shot himself in the back while handcuffed in the back of a sheriff’s unit.

According to the autopsy, the bullet entered White’s chest, then perforated his left lung and heart before exiting his armpit area and lacerating his upper arm.

The report rules White’s death a suicide.

katc.com

354 Decatur Deb  Aug 26, 2014 10:02:05am

re: #352 Lidane

‘You Stupid Jackass!’: Darren Wilson Supporters Clash with Ferguson Business Owner on CNN

Going to want to chart the real-estate values in Ferguson for the next few months.

355 Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2014 10:04:45am

re: #328 Lidane

*sigh*

They just can’t help themselves.

Fox pundit: Images from Foley beheading video are ‘perfectly fair’ for GOP campaign ads

Stay Classy, Republicans.

356 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 10:05:30am

re:
#352

Last week: Why don’t all the stupid protesters go home and get a job!??!?!?!??!?! Bring in the tear gas and the tanks!!!!

This week: It’s mah One Amendment raghts to be out hear protestin!!!!!!1

357 Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2014 10:06:23am

re: #352 Lidane

But Wilson supporters are not racist, doncha know?

By the way, how idiotic is it to ask if someone speaks English when they’re speaking English?

358 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 10:07:23am

re: #357 Patricia Kayden

Because they weren’t speaking the appropriate redneck dialect? /

359 gwangung  Aug 26, 2014 10:07:28am

re: #357 Patricia Kayden

But Wilson supporters are not racist, doncha know?

By the way, how idiotic is it to ask if someone speaks English when they’re speaking English?

“You speak English very well. How long have you been in this country?”

(Statement often made to third generation Americans who are not pasty white)

360 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 10:11:28am

Srsly these wingnuts are SO PATRIOTIC!!!!! ELEVENTY!!!!

361 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 26, 2014 10:13:25am

re: #359 gwangung

“You speak English very well. How long have you been in this country?”

(Statement often made to third generation Americans who are not pasty white)

Well, yeah, but actually the guy sounds South Asian. I’ve known people who have trouble understanding English if it’s spoken with just even the slightest accent.

362 thedopefishlives  Aug 26, 2014 10:16:52am

re: #361 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Well, yeah, but actually the guy sounds South Asian. I’ve known people who have trouble understanding English if it’s spoken with just even the slightest accent.

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!?

“Why yes, yes I do, better than you, in fact.”

[Cue wingnut outrage.]

363 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 10:18:18am

re: #359 gwangung

“You speak English very well. How long have you been in this country?”

I can’t even count how many times I heard that growing up, especially when people realized I’m Latina.

“Oh! I thought you were [Italian/Greek/Romanian/etc.]. You don’t have a Mexican accent at ALL!”

*headdesk*

364 retired cynic  Aug 26, 2014 10:18:24am

re: #337 ObserverArt

I love how the yellow in his teeth matches the yellow in the hair. Good color job!

365 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 10:20:22am

re: #362 thedopefishlives

Do they speak English in What? What ain’t no country I’ve ever heard of.

366 lawhawk  Aug 26, 2014 10:20:59am

re: #361 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Well, yeah, but actually the guy sounds South Asian. I’ve known people who have trouble understanding English if it’s spoken with just even the slightest accent.

You have no idea / Queen Elizabeth II

367 CuriousLurker  Aug 26, 2014 10:24:29am

re: #363 Lidane

I can’t even count how many times I heard that growing up, especially when people realized I’m Latina.

“Oh! I thought you were [Italian/Greek/Romanian/etc.]. You don’t have a Mexican accent at ALL!”

*headdesk*

One time, in the taxi, this Hispanic guy (native Texan judging by his accent-) gets into my car at the airport and tells me his address. As we head towars the freeway I ask him, “Would you rather take route a-b-c or route x-y-z?” He turns to me with a totally WTF look on his face and deadpans, “Well I’ll be damned—that’s one HELL of an accent you’ve got there!” Then we both cracked up.

368 Teukka  Aug 26, 2014 10:24:42am

OT I know, but… WTFITS?

Net Neutrality Is ‘Marxist,’ According to This Koch-Backed Astroturf Group

369 BeachDem  Aug 26, 2014 10:25:24am

re: #243 lawhawk

Tim Horton’s (hears a who) can be found across Western and Northern NY, MA, and New England. They’ve even got outposts here in NYC.

Their coffee is much better than that of Starbucks. Probably about even with Dunkin’ Donuts.

They’ve been in Columbus, OH for many years. One of the locations is/was about a block from Wendy’s corporate headquarters.

370 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 26, 2014 10:26:17am

re: #368 Teukka

OT I know, but… WTFITS?

Net Neutrality Is ‘Marxist,’ According to This Koch-Backed Astroturf Group

So are public roads, public education, public utilities & services, etc….

371 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 10:26:35am

Gordon Klingenschmitt is an Asshole, part infinity:

Klingenschmitt ‘Apologizes’ For Accusing Rep. Jared Polis Of Wanting To Join ISIS & Behead Christians’

372 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 10:28:36am

Wow she’s bloodthirsty

373 CuriousLurker  Aug 26, 2014 10:29:34am

re: #361 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Well, yeah, but actually the guy sounds South Asian. I’ve known people who have trouble understanding English if it’s spoken with just even the slightest accent.

Somehow, I suspect that if someone with an accent were describing directions to a buried treasure worth millions, said people would suddenly stop having so much trouble understanding, or at least they’d be very attentive & patient in asking the speaker to please repeat what s/he said.

374 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 10:30:17am
375 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 10:30:25am

re: #367 CuriousLurker

One time, in the taxi, this Hispanic guy—native Texan judging by his accent— gets into my car at the airport and tells me his address. As we head towars the freeway I ask him, “Would you rather take route a-b-c or route x-y-z?” He turns to me with a totally WTF look on his face and deadpans, “Well I’ll be damned—that’s one HELL of an accent you’ve got there!” Then we both cracked up.

Haha that’s awesome.

I think my other favorite bit of stupid I heard growing up was “Really? You don’t look Mexican!”

Yeah, sorry. I don’t look like your gardener or maid, and my mariachi outfit is at the cleaners. Jerks. :-P

376 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 10:30:51am

Mushroom clouds.

377 thedopefishlives  Aug 26, 2014 10:32:22am

re: #376 Gus

Mushroom clouds.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

378 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 10:32:41am

Wow. Poroshenko-Putin meeting has been canceled. Doesn’t bode well…

379 CuriousLurker  Aug 26, 2014 10:32:53am

re: #372 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow she’s bloodthirsty

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Especially since she’s likely talking about non-terrorist innocent people as I seriously doubt there are anywhere near 10K members of ISIS. She has the same mentality as the terrorists.

380 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 10:33:17am

The stupid is strong with this one:

We last checked in with Alabama Republican Chairman Bill Armistead during the 2012 presidential campaign, when he was promoting the bizarre alternate birther theory that President Obama’s real father was labor organizer Frank Marshall Davis. Armistead had picked up the idea from a smear film made by right-wing filmmaker Joel Gilbert, and was very impressed, saying he had “verified that it is factual, all of it.”

Now, Armistead has gotten on board with another fringe right-wing theory about President Obama, this time echoing Wayne Allyn Root’s suggestion that the president might actually be a diagnosable sociopath because of the fact that he was on vacation in Martha’s Vineyard last week.

381 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 10:34:12am

re: #379 CuriousLurker

Especially since she’s likely talking about non-terrorist innocent people as I seriously doubt there are anywhere near 10K members of ISIS. She has the same mentality as the terrorists.

I’m sure that ISIS completely separates themselves from the civilian population and carefully marks out their location, just like Hamas.
//

382 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 10:35:28am

Graham Phillips. For all intents and purposes, a combatant, not a journalist.

383 b.d.  Aug 26, 2014 10:35:32am

re: #376 Gus

Mushroom clouds.

Incubators.

384 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 10:36:21am

re:
#372

I think you mean Pro-Life! //

Wow she’s bloodthirsty

[wingnut]Why haven’t we already bombed and killed 10,000 ISIS terrorist for Foley? [wingnut]

385 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 10:37:21am

No you stupid Fuck. Because BK will have to pay their workers $11/hr and they all get free health care! Also too: Canada has taxes.

386 Bulworth  Aug 26, 2014 10:37:57am

re:
#380

Armistead had picked up the idea from a smear film made by right-wing filmmaker Joel Gilbert, and was very impressed, saying he had “verified that it is factual, all of it.”

“How did you verify that it was all factual, all of it?”

“Uh….I watched the video!”

387 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 10:38:15am

re: #384 Bulworth

re:
#372

I think you mean Pro-Life! //

County Captain 4Romney

388 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 26, 2014 10:39:53am

WE ARE SO FUCKED

389 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 26, 2014 10:39:55am

Hmm?

390 Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 26, 2014 10:42:15am

re: #367 CuriousLurker

Slightly OT, but I take great pride when people say, “You don’t sound like you’re from Texas!”

No I don’t, and I’ve worked hard at it.

391 Lidane  Aug 26, 2014 10:43:12am

re: #388 Pie-onist Overlord

LIES! It’s totally normal to have high levels of methane in the water!

392 danarchy  Aug 26, 2014 10:44:39am

re: #388 Pie-onist Overlord

WE ARE SO FUCKED

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If this is regarding the same article that was posted here the other day, these are leaks that have been around for about a 1000 years. Don’t have time to read at the moment.

393 Gus  Aug 26, 2014 10:44:57am

Same genius.

394 sagehen  Aug 26, 2014 10:45:15am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So are public roads, public education, public utilities & services, etc….

Funny how hardly anyone ever complains about socialized firefighting…

395 CuriousLurker  Aug 26, 2014 10:51:01am

re: #390 Flying Squirrel Girl

Slightly OT, but I take great pride when people say, “You don’t sound like you’re from Texas!”

No I don’t, and I’ve worked hard at it.

I never had much of a Texas accent as neither one of my parents had it, but I’d slip into it when pissed off (it was, and still is, good for cursing in). Nonetheless, I still retain some southernisms that I don’t even notice till someone points them out, like saying “I’m fixin’ to….”

Oh, and talking to someone with a Texas accent, or any southern accent. It doesn’t matter if it’s on the phone or in person, no matter how hard I consciously try not to, I’ll immediately and involuntarily slip into the the twangiest Texas drawl you’ve ever heard.

396 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 26, 2014 1:48:41pm

re: #337 ObserverArt

Time to do an ‘shop update since Bryan seems to be a stuck record on certain subjects…

Dance to the Hot Hits of the Bryan Fischer & The Clueless Preachers

Up-ding for the Wayne Cochran haircut.


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