About Obama’s “We Don’t Have a Strategy Yet” Statement; Don’t Fall for the Right’s Distortions

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Here we go again, folks; you can see it coming already. During his press conference today, President Obama talked at length about the need to develop a strong, comprehensive regional strategy with US allies and partners to address the threat of ISIL.

So what are the right wing blogs going to be screaming about? At one point, Obama said these words:

We don’t have a strategy yet.

This will be the right wing’s next “You didn’t build that” — a deliberately distorted, out of context deception to enrage their base. It’s starting already:

But here’s the transcript, and for the record, I’ll pull out everything else Obama said about developing a strategy. I don’t expect this to affect the coming right wing freak-out (they’re impervious to facts), but for the record:

ISIL poses an immediate threat to the people of Iraq and to people throughout the region, and that’s why our military action in Iraq has to be part of a broader comprehensive strategy to protect our people and to support our partners who are taking the fight to ISIL, and that starts with Iraq’s leaders building on the progress that they’ve made so far and forming an inclusive government that will unite their country and strengthen their security forces to confront ISIL.

[…]

Any successful strategy, though, also needs strong regional partners. I’m encouraged so far that countries in the region, countries that don’t always agree on many things, increasingly recognize the primacy of the threat that ISIL poses to all of them. And I’ve asked Secretary Kerry to travel to the region to continue to build the coalition that’s needed to meet this threat.

[…]

As I’ve said, rooting out a cancer like ISIL will not be quick or easy, but I’m confident that we can and we will, working closely with our allies and our partners. For our part, I’ve directed Secretary Hagel and our Joint Chiefs of Staff to prepare a range of options. I’ll be meeting with my National Security Council again this evening as we continue to develop that strategy.

[…]

What is true, though, is that the violence that’s been taking place in Syria has obviously given ISIL a safe haven there in ungoverned spaces. And in order for us to degrade ISIL over the long term, we’re going to have to build a regional strategy. Now, we’re not going to do that alone.

[…]

But when we look at a broader strategy that is consistent with what I said at West Point, that’s consistent with what I said at the National Defense College, clearly ISIL has come to represent the very worst elements in the region that we have to deal with collectively. And that’s going to be a long-term project.

[…]

QUESTION: Do you need Congress’s approval to go into Syria?

OBAMA: You know, I have consulted with Congress throughout this process. I am confident that as commander in chief I have the authorities to engage in the acts that we are conducting currently. As our strategy develops, we will continue to consult with Congress, and I do think that it’ll be important for Congress to weigh in and we’re — that our consultations with Congress continue to develop so that the American people are part of the debate.

But I don’t want to put the cart before the horse. We don’t have a strategy yet. I think what I’ve seen in some of the news reports suggests that folks are getting a little further ahead of where we’re at than we currently are. And I think that’s not just my assessment, but the assessment of our military, as well. We need to make sure that we’ve got clear plans, that we’re developing them. At that point, I will consult with Congress and make sure that their voices are heard.

[…]

Now as we go forward, as I’ve described to Chuck, and look at a broader regional strategy with an international coalition and partners to systematically degrade ISIL’s capacity to engage in the terrible violence and disruptions that they’ve been engaging in, not just in Syria, not just in Iraq but potentially elsewhere if we don’t nip this at the bud, then those consultations with Congress for something that is longer term I think become more relevant.

[…]

But, as I said to Chuck, I don’t want to put the cart before the horse. And in some of the media reports, the suggestion seems to have been that, you know, we’re about to go full scale on an elaborate strategy for defeating ISIL.

[…]

We are gonna work politically and diplomatically with folks in the region. And we’re gonna cobble together the kind of coalition that we need for a long-term strategy as soon as we are able to fit together the military, political and economic components of that strategy. There will be a military aspect to that. And it’s gonna be important for Congress to know what that is, in part because it may cost some money.

[…]

If those things are followed through on and we are able to combine it with a sound military strategy, then I think we can be successful. If we can’t, then the idea that the United States or any outside power would perpetually defeat ISIS I think is unrealistic.

There you have it. The right will have their very predictable freak-out session, but maybe some people will refer to this post for the rest of the story.

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347 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 3:01:46pm

Par the course for the people who brought us “You didn’t build that.”

2 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:03:06pm

Hey right-wing nutjobs, do you have a strategy yet for defeating Obama in the elections? LOL!

3 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2014 3:06:29pm

Context…it be very difficult…

4 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2014 3:09:17pm

I wonder if his speech writers realized what that phrasing might do.

Not that they or BO should give a shit what the right wing thinks.

5 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 3:09:17pm

Hang on…he tried using honesty with the press?

6 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 3:09:47pm

John McCain has a strategy. Bomb, bomb, bomb and blame the black guy.

7 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:10:03pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if his speech writers realized what that phrasing might do.

Not that they or BO should give a shit what the right wing thinks.

It wouldn’t matter, honestly. Every single speech he’s given, they’ve found something to derp about. The President opens his mouth, the wingnuts screech and gibber and howl. Without fail.

8 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 3:10:11pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

It wasn’t part of the speech - it was an answer to a reporter’s question.

9 Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2014 3:11:20pm

Quick!
Give me a long term strategy for successfully defeating ISIS.
You have 30 seconds.
GO!
/Totally how it works.

10 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:12:01pm

re: #9 Varek Raith

Quick!
Give me a long term strategy for successfully defeating ISIS.
You have 30 seconds.
GO!
/Totally how it works.

Nuke it all, put oil rigs in the glass crater

I’m sure at least one of them, somewhere, has thought this, too.

11 simoom  Aug 28, 2014 3:12:40pm

Which should have been patently obvious already since it was responding to this question about a Syria AUMF:

“QUESTION: Do you need Congress’s approval to go into Syria?”

12 BeachDem  Aug 28, 2014 3:15:01pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just for you, Sleuth—from a Kentucky Kroger (just received in an email from Moms Demand Action)

Shopping Kroger with both of his “babies”

13 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 3:15:14pm

I am not a racist but I can understand why people are racists.”

14 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 3:15:44pm

re: #6 darthstar

John McCain has a strategy. Bomb, bomb, bomb and blame the black guy.

and appearing on the Sunday talk show circuit so everyone can hear him.

15 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 28, 2014 3:16:46pm

re: #12 BeachDem

Just for you, Sleuth—from a Kentucky Kroger (just received in an email from Moms Demand Action)

Shopping Kroger with both of his “babies”

The batshit is strong with that one…

16 makeitstop  Aug 28, 2014 3:17:45pm

One of my FB wingnuts already posted the link from Drudge.

I countered by posting the link back to here. :)

17 Frenchy  Aug 28, 2014 3:18:05pm

Eh, even in context, I think it’s a bad sound byte. I don’t have a problem with it, he’s answering and speaking honestly, and I respect that. But if he could go back and rephrase I’m guessing he would.

As for all the RWNJ’s who were gonna take something he said and rage over it, no matter what it was, well they can fuck right off regardless.

18 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 3:18:08pm

re: #13 Gus

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I am not a racist but I can understand why people are racists.”

Takes one to understand one. He has to be of that mindset for it to make sense.

19 lawhawk  Aug 28, 2014 3:18:23pm

Media outlet after outlet is leading with “we have no strategy” until you get past the lede, which is that Obama does have a strategy, they’re working on a range of options, working with allies in the region, and that Congress has to be involved when they get back from vacation (though with all of 5 days of work between now and November, I’m sure Congress will come up with a workable strategy).

The GOP strategy is to complain that Obama’s strategy or non-strategy isn’t working so he should do something different.

But they don’t identify what the strategy should be. Because they’re clueless other than the McCain - let’s bomb ‘em.

I’ll repeat what I’ve been saying on twitter for some time now.

If you’re going to call for bombing, you need to:
1) identify who gets bombed;
2) who benefits from said bombing;
3) explain benefits to US from said bombing; and
4) find where you’re intending to bombing on a map.

If you say Assad should be bombed, then you have to recognize that ISIS benefits from Assad’s power being degraded. That would be the genocidal ISIS.

If you say ISIS gets bombed, then you’re going to benefit Assad. That would be the democidal Assad.

If you claim that if only we’d have supported the FSA sooner, we could have avoided the problem now ignore that ISIS not only has swarmed into Iraq where they overran the military there, but have done the same to Assad’s forces. Equipment we gave to FSA would just as easily have fallen into ISIS hands, which would not be what anyone wanted.

And that was the concern all along - that the FSA couldn’t show that it was a coherent force, or that the Islamists like ISIS wouldn’t be able to get their hands on US-provided gear.

So, what are we left with? A GOP whining about Obama’s strategy that they’ll excerpt to be a non-strategy. Or the nitwits in media and right wing complaining about his suit.

Yeah, his suit.

This is the media we have. Where Obama’s suit color is the lead on twitter?

[facepalm]

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2014 3:19:04pm

re: #12 BeachDem

Just for you, Sleuth—from a Kentucky Kroger (just received in an email from Moms Demand Action)

Shopping Kroger with both of his “babies”

yeah…I saw that.
Idiot.

21 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 3:19:55pm
22 Frenchy  Aug 28, 2014 3:20:28pm

re: #12 BeachDem

Oh dear God.

23 Franklin  Aug 28, 2014 3:21:00pm
24 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 3:21:05pm
25 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 3:22:13pm

re: #24 Gus

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Pow!

26 ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2014 3:22:19pm

re: #13 Gus

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I am not a racist but I can understand why people are racists.”

I bet Erick has a Muslim jihadist friend or two.

/

27 sunnygal  Aug 28, 2014 3:22:20pm

Obviously, if he is going to consult with Congress on strategy before implementing it, that’s not possible at this point - Congress is on vacation. So, what’s the hurry?

Oh, I get it. Gotta derp on Obama about something and the low-information RWNJs are gonna swallow it all and then spew it all over.

28 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:23:05pm

re: #24 Gus

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And thus, a meme was spawned. Make it so, Number One.

29 Ace-o-aces  Aug 28, 2014 3:23:41pm

Bush didn’t have a Middle East strategy either. Didn’t stop him from invading Iraq.

30 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 3:23:49pm

The ice bucket challenge was fun, but this promises to be more rewarding:

tacoorbeerchallenge.tumblr.com

Tacos & Beer w/donation to pro-choice organization. Who could hate that?

31 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 3:24:06pm

re: #24 Gus

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You have a winner there.

32 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:24:37pm

re: #30 darthstar

The ice bucket challenge was fun, but this promises to be more rewarding:

tacoorbeerchallenge.tumblr.com

Tacos & Beer w/donation to pro-choice organization. Who could hate that?

Dirty Mexican food? Alcoholic beverages? PRO-CHOICE ORGANIZATION?!?!?

Yeah, the answer to that question was obvious.

33 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 3:27:24pm

re: #29 Ace-o-aces

Bush didn’t have a Middle East strategy either. Didn’t stop him from invading Iraq.

by the time bush went into iraq, the right wing had already forgotten how much they had excoriated clinton for supposedly having “no exit strategy”

but anyway whenever i mention bush to wingnuts these days, they completely disown him

34 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 3:29:23pm
35 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 3:32:18pm

re: #13 Gus

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I am not a racist but I can understand why people are racists.”

Erickson is a racist. And a bigot. And an asshole. And his politics suck.

36 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 3:32:19pm
37 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 3:33:14pm
38 lawhawk  Aug 28, 2014 3:35:45pm

re: #37 ausador

But remember, Paul Ryan says that Obamacare is about to collapse.

The only thing collapsing is the states that refused to expand Medicare as part of the ACA, are realizing that they’ve screwed their residents.

39 Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2014 3:36:28pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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The distinct difference is that, if it were Bush, we’d be asking for him to explain his strategy because he’d be champing at the bit to get us over there to start the bombing. That’s the difference between a warmonger and a peacemaker: The former wants to go to war and worry about strategy later, the latter wants to know the goals and how to achieve them before committing to action.

40 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:36:52pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Aside from the part where Bush was a different President and you were a different person at the time, also.

41 Mike Lamb  Aug 28, 2014 3:37:26pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

The distinct difference is that, if it were Bush, we’d be asking for him to explain his strategy because he’d be champing at the bit to get us over there to start the bombing. That’s the difference between a warmonger and a peacemaker: The former wants to go to war and worry about strategy later, the latter wants to know the goals and how to achieve them before committing to action.

Actually, a statement like that from Bush would have come after the first round of military strikes.

42 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 3:38:03pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

The distinct difference is that, if it were Bush, we’d be asking for him to explain his strategy because he’d be champing at the bit to get us over there to start the bombing. That’s the difference between a warmonger and a peacemaker: The former wants to go to war and worry about strategy later, the latter wants to know the goals and how to achieve them before committing to action.

Which is why Obama > Bush, McCain, and Romney.

43 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 3:40:05pm
44 missliberties  Aug 28, 2014 3:40:47pm

Personally I think it’s a smart thing to say. The wingnuts are going to rave, but what else is new?

I ask you why on earth would you want to telegraph your strategy/tactics/etc. to the enemy? Deliberately letting ISIL think they have befuddled us could work in our favor.

45 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 3:41:10pm

Rick Scott has such bad luck, his name just keeps getting connected to government fraud over and over again, I really feel sorry for him. ///

46 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2014 3:41:20pm

Absolutely EPIC side eye. Pretty much sums up my response to all of these latest outrages.

47 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 3:42:07pm

well we are already bombing, and i tend to think that the most likely plan of action in the long run is another ‘coalition of the willing’ and a ground war => iraq war III in a series of who knows how many

48 missliberties  Aug 28, 2014 3:44:38pm

re: #38 lawhawk

But remember, Paul Ryan says that Obamacare is about to collapse.

The only thing collapsing is the states that refused to expand Medicare as part of the ACA, are realizing that they’ve screwed their residents.

Yet the media is ignoring this story? The pundint class was all to happy to slam Obamacare’s anti-freedom, jack booted, death panels.

But wait….. the Affordable Care Act is working, and “Obama” had nothing to do with it!! roflol

49 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 3:46:41pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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She has marshaled all the forces of convincement!

And you know it. Dude. Come on.

50 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 3:47:11pm

re: #47 dog philosopher

I think not American troops. Too much resistance short of an attack here. My guess is it will shake out to “local” troops, and a ton of american logistical and military support like intel, weapons and air power. By local I mean regional.

51 BongCrodny  Aug 28, 2014 3:47:11pm

So, for whatever reason, Facebook suggested Judge Jeanne Pirro as part of my newsfeed.

What the FUCK did I ever do to deserve THAT?

52 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 3:48:05pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

She has marshaled all the forces of convincement!

And you know it. Dude. Come on.

I know, I almost said, “You’re right, I’m sorry. So sorry. What was I thinking?”

Not really.

53 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 3:48:16pm

re: #51 BongCrodny

So, for whatever, reason, Facebook suggested Judge Jeanne Pirro as part of my newsfeed.

What the FUCK did I ever do to deserve THAT?

The High Lizard Overlord Council sees ALL.

54 lawhawk  Aug 28, 2014 3:49:07pm
55 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 3:49:45pm

Had an interesting exchange with Hunter Walker: @hunterw

Concluded with this:

56 Kid A  Aug 28, 2014 3:50:50pm

Whoops. Wrong reply #.

57 Kid A  Aug 28, 2014 3:51:12pm

re: #51 BongCrodny

So, for whatever reason, Facebook suggested Judge Jeanne Pirro as part of my newsfeed.

What the FUCK did I ever do to deserve THAT?

PLENTY!!!!
/

58 Franklin  Aug 28, 2014 3:52:18pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Had an interesting exchange with Hunter Walker: @hunterw

Concluded with this:

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LFG IS IRREVELENT!!!!

59 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 3:52:29pm

Conservatives don’t really get how analogies are supposed to work. If Bush had done what Obama just did and tried to develop a cogent long term strategy first then Iraq probably wouldn’t have turned into quite such an epic level cluster-fuck. Instead the entire thing was poorly conceived and deliberately based on bullshit deceptions and wishful thinking.

60 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 3:53:27pm

So if I hibernated for 50 or 100 years and the American President were facing military action in Iraq, will Bush still be the common comparison?
//

Can we please let Obama off the hook for whatever sins real or exaggerated GWB committed? By that I mean if he decides it’s truly necessary to send the 101st airborne after ISIS we have some faith that it’s truly necessary?

Silly me of course not. the shitstorm will be epic, left, right and dudebro.

61 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 3:56:26pm
62 ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2014 3:57:14pm

re: #38 lawhawk

But remember, Paul Ryan says that Obamacare is about to collapse.

The only thing collapsing is the states that refused to expand Medicare as part of the ACA, are realizing that they’ve screwed their residents.

Well, they keep adding all these people so yeah it could collapse from the shear weight of all those people.

Or something, or sumptin’!

/

63 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 3:57:34pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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AND YOU KNOW IT! dude

64 b_sharp  Aug 28, 2014 3:57:59pm

Obama does have a strategy to deal with ISIL
That strategy entails involving all of the affected states in developing a consensus on limiting damages to ISIL alone.

Instead of acting unilaterally like a self appointed vigilante he’s looking for a practical and effective permanent solution.

65 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 3:58:23pm

Conservatives don’t really get that “go in and kick ass” isn’t really a comprehensive strategy.

66 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 3:58:35pm

re: #60 Rightwingconspirator

So if I hibernated for 50 or 100 years and the American President were facing military action in Iraq, will Bush still be the common comparison?
//

Can we please let Obama off the hook for whatever sins real or exaggerated GWB committed? By that I mean if he decides it’s truly necessary to send the 101st airborne after ISIS we have some faith that it’s truly necessary?

Silly me of course not. the shitstorm will be epic, left, right and dudebro.

box, pandora’s, should never have been opened

67 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 4:00:53pm
68 klys  Aug 28, 2014 4:01:07pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Conservatives don’t really get that “go in and kick ass” isn’t really a comprehensive strategy.

Or even a marginal one.

69 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 4:01:23pm

Real warning or Powell at the UN all over again?

Buried in a Dell computer captured in Syria are lessons for making bubonic plague bombs and missives on using weapons of mass destruction.

70 Varek Raith  Aug 28, 2014 4:01:55pm
71 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 4:02:12pm

re: #50 Rightwingconspirator

I think not American troops. Too much resistance short of an attack here. My guess is it will shake out to “local” troops, and a ton of american logistical and military support like intel, weapons and air power. By local I mean regional.

im sure this will be the preferred attempt of first resort, but in the long run im afraid we are living the so-called pottery barn rule

72 b.d.  Aug 28, 2014 4:02:13pm

Being willfully dishonest is a trait that I am glad that I don’t covet. I don’t know how these people walk with their heads up.

73 Mentis Fugit  Aug 28, 2014 4:03:46pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

YEEEEEEHAW! is not a foreign policy.

74 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 4:05:01pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Conservatives don’t really get that “go in and kick ass” isn’t really a comprehensive strategy.

This is reflected in the idiot’s statement about the losing team in a football / baseball / basketball game, “they didn’t want it enough.” There’s a very real conflation between desire and competence, between confidence and skill. It’s the Dunning-Kreuger effect externalized.

75 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 28, 2014 4:06:30pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Conservatives don’t really get that “go in and kick ass” isn’t really a comprehensive strategy.

76 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2014 4:06:41pm

It begins:

Missouri police sued for $40 million over actions in Ferguson protests

(Reuters) - A group of people caught up in unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, after a white officer killed a black teenager, sued local officials on Thursday, alleging civil rights violations through arrests and police assaults with rubber bullets and tear gas.

The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, says law enforcement met a broad public outcry over the Aug. 9 killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown with “militaristic displays of force and weaponry,” (and) engaged U.S. citizens “as if they were war combatants.”

The lawsuit seeks a total of $40 million on behalf of six plaintiffs, including a 17-year-old boy who was with his mother in a fast-food restaurant when they were arrested. Each of the plaintiffs was caught up in interactions with police over a period from Aug. 11 to 13, the suit allege.

Named as defendants are the city of Ferguson, St. Louis County, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson, St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Delmar, Ferguson police officer Justin Cosmo, and other unnamed police officers from Ferguson and St. Louis County.

77 blueraven  Aug 28, 2014 4:07:54pm

re: #37 ausador


Yeah because Governor Corbett is getting his ass kicked in the polls.
RCP Average 7/5 - 8/25 - Wolf(D) 50.3 Corbett(R) 33.7 Wolf +16.6

Think this is too little too late for him.

realclearpolitics.com

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2014 4:08:33pm

O/T: MrBWS is on his way home. He’s stopping to pick up a new coffeemaker, so tomorrow morning will be a better day.

Today… Longest. Day. Of. My. Life.

79 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 4:10:44pm

re: #75 Aunty Entity Dragon

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That’s my favorite movie.

80 b.d.  Aug 28, 2014 4:10:59pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

O/T: MrBWS is on his way home. He’s stopping to pick up a new coffeemaker, so tomorrow morning will be a better day.

Today… Longest. Day. Of. My. Life.

It’s only been 2 hrs since you reported a broken coffee pot, it’s not anywhere even lunch time yet, hope you have a good day today.

:P

81 BeachDem  Aug 28, 2014 4:11:05pm

Best Obama/Suit tweet I’ve seen:

82 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 28, 2014 4:11:27pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

That’s my favorite movie.

But…I’m a bomb! I’m supposed to blow up!

83 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 4:12:14pm

re: #82 Aunty Entity Dragon

But…I’m a bomb! I’m supposed to blow up!

Teach it phenomenology.

84 OhNoZombies!  Aug 28, 2014 4:12:45pm

re: #12 BeachDem

Just for you, Sleuth—from a Kentucky Kroger (just received in an email from Moms Demand Action)

Shopping Kroger with both of his “babies”

I’m really starting to think ‘Idiocracy’ was a documentary.
//

85 b.d.  Aug 28, 2014 4:12:48pm

re: #73 Mentis Fugit

YEEEEEEHAW! is not a foreign policy.

LET’S JUST GO AHEAD AND NUKE ALL OF THOSE DIRTY MUSLIMS SO WHEN CAN GET BACK TO TALKING ABOUT HOW OPPRESSED US CHRISTIANS ARE

86 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 4:15:10pm

re: #77 blueraven

Yeah because Governor Corbett is getting his ass kicked in the polls.
RCP Average 7/5 - 8/25 - Wolf(D) 50.3 Corbett(R) 33.7 Wolf +16.6

Think this is too little too late for him.

realclearpolitics.com

The good news is Corbett can actually BLAME Obamacare after he loses.

87 Kragar  Aug 28, 2014 4:15:14pm

re: #75 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Speaking of Dim Jim and his followers

88 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 4:15:37pm

re: #69 Rightwingconspirator

Real warning or Powell at the UN all over again?

Bubonic plague bombs? What, are they full of infected fleas or something?

89 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 4:16:16pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — Tongues are wagging over President Barack Obama’s audacity to wear taupe.

The sight of Obama discussing possible U.S. military action in Syria in a light-colored suit lit up Twitter on Thursday, and the reviews of his unusual fashion choice were less than fashionable.

Many tweets poked fun at slogans that are closely associated with Obama.

“Taupe and change,” says one tweet. “The audacity of taupe,” says another, tweaking the title of one of Obama’s best-selling books.

“Yes, we tan,” says a third.

Gallows humor even came into play, with one tweeter suggesting the death penalty for whoever chose the suit for Obama to wear.

Obama typically wears dark suits.

In 2009, he was panned for wearing “mom jeans” to throw the first pitch at the All-Star Game.

bigstory.ap.org

90 BeachDem  Aug 28, 2014 4:16:55pm

re: #84 OhNoZombies!

I’m really starting to think ‘Idiocracy’ was a documentary.
//

That reads just as accurately without the sarc tag.

91 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:17:41pm
92 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 4:18:24pm

re: #84 OhNoZombies!

I’m really starting to think ‘Idiocracy’ was a documentary.
//

i once thought about it as a movie about the future

93 makeitstop  Aug 28, 2014 4:19:18pm

re: #80 b.d.

It’s only been 2 hrs since you reported a broken coffee pot, it’s not anywhere even lunch time yet, hope you have a good day today.

:P

You’re mean. :)

94 ObserverArt  Aug 28, 2014 4:19:29pm

re: #84 OhNoZombies!

I’m really starting to think ‘Idiocracy’ was a documentary.
//

I really don’t think you needed those sarc tags.

The humor of the movie is based on seeing a future based on current direction.

It’s sort of how Jules Verne and others took man to the moon at the turn of the century.

Also how many times we here at LGF comment on Huxley and Orwell with Brave New World and 1984 and how right they were about some future time.

95 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 4:20:01pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

O/T: MrBWS is on his way home. He’s stopping to pick up a new coffeemaker, so tomorrow morning will be a better day.

Today… Longest. Day. Of. My. Life.

Even if you don’t favor hot tea you should keep some tea bags on hand for caffeine emergencies such as this one. :p

96 OhNoZombies!  Aug 28, 2014 4:22:14pm

Heh, I actually did go back and forth about those sarc tags.

97 BeachDem  Aug 28, 2014 4:22:34pm

Cheeky response from HuffPo UK:

re: #89 dog philosopher

President Obama has been accused of “shaming” an entire nation - by turning up to a televised press conference wearing a light-tan suit.

The content of Obama’s Thursday address, which included the invasion of Ukraine and the threat of ISIS, was lost on those in the briefing, with audible gasps heard as the 44th president entered the room.

The horror… the horror…

Rumours abound that the breezy garb once belonged to Spiro Agnew, but these remain unconfirmed.

As the horror of the President’s wardrobe set in, thousands of Americans took to Twitter to share in the collective grief of being led by a man in beige two-piece.

So far there has been no reaction to Obama’s late summer wear from the Kremlin or the British Foreign Office, nor is the choice of tan likely to impact the forthcoming Nato summit in Britain.

Domestically, however, the president’s clothing could embolden those calling for his impeachment.

huffingtonpost.co.uk

98 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 4:25:46pm

in a “surprise appearance!” (are you shitting me?), John McCain shows up on MSNBC to hand over the production notes for Meet the Press to NBC bootlicker Chuck Todd, eliminating any doubt that Angry Grampy is the brains behind MTP.

Basically the new rules for MTP are to make sure McCain or Lindsey Graham appear every week, and no one who thinks differently from them should ever be allowed on the show.

politico.com

99 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 4:27:27pm

re: #51 BongCrodny

So, for whatever reason, Facebook suggested Judge Jeanne Pirro as part of my newsfeed.

What the FUCK did I ever do to deserve THAT?

You ever post any ducklips selfies?

100 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 28, 2014 4:28:16pm
101 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 4:28:44pm

what’s on my mind today…

1) my monitor shows more than 68 characters per line - all commands on one line please instead of compact clumps of code

2) 11 parameters is a red flag

3) 4000 line subroutines is a red flag

4) no ternary operators passed as parameters please mr fancy pants

5) myCall(true, false, true, 21, true, false); is not self documenting code

102 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 4:30:31pm
103 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 4:31:28pm

Mississippi Mud Pie in the oven.

104 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:32:26pm

Oh boy.

105 klys  Aug 28, 2014 4:33:39pm

re: #101 dog philosopher

what’s on my mind today…

1) my monitor shows more than 68 characters per line - all commands on one line please instead of compact clumps of code

2) 11 parameters is a red flag

3) 4000 line subroutines is a red flag

4) no ternary operators passed as parameters please mr fancy pants

5) myCall(true, false, true, 21, true, false); is not self documenting code

Can it really be called a subroutine if it’s 4000 lines long?

In other news, I got the kittens a new cat toy. One of the ones where you put a little bit of kibble in it and they can bat it around to get the kibble out.

So far we have one smart cat and two very dumb cats.

106 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 4:34:01pm

I love Andy Richter.

107 Shiplord Kirel  Aug 28, 2014 4:34:01pm

re: #87 Kragar

Speaking of Dim Jim and his followers

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The competition is fierce but I think we have a candidate for dumbest wingnut of the week.

To belabor the obvious:
If, as the Dim-fan acknowledges, the sounds were sent at the time of the shooting, then they are either authentic or they were prepared in advance for transmission at that time. Does she really think it’s possible someone had advance knowledge of the shooting?

108 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:34:29pm

Obama’s tan suit: Stop freaking out, Internet, it’s actually stylish - LA Times

“President Obama Shames America by Wearing Wack-Ass Tan Suit” reads the Gawker headline. “No One Heard Anything Obama Just Said Because His Tan Suit Was So Loud” reads another from the Wire.

And the Twitterverse followed, likening his lack of a dark suit to a sign of weakness.

“Pres. Obama wearing a tan suit sends the wrong message to our allies in the region. Once again he fails to understand optics,” tweeted @Gus_802.

109 klys  Aug 28, 2014 4:35:55pm

re: #108 Gus

Obama’s tan suit: Stop freaking out, Internet, it’s actually stylish - LA Times

The problem with sarcasm and text.

Also, you know, fact-checking.

110 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:38:20pm

re: #109 klys

The problem with sarcasm and text.

Also, you know, fact-checking.

111 mishuga  Aug 28, 2014 4:39:02pm

While I agree with his caution, I feel like he talks way too much, unless he’s pulling some hocus pocus to throw off all of the various interests. I haven’t seen anything to suggest though that he’s into disinformation.

112 klys  Aug 28, 2014 4:39:13pm

re: #110 Gus

One of the absolute best things about LGF is sarc tags.

No, seriously, because I wish I could use them on the rest of the Internet and I can’t because nobody else gets it and it makes life so much easier.

113 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:40:18pm
114 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:40:37pm

It’s in a quote so there is also that.

115 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 4:42:42pm

re: #110 Gus

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Try this one: twitter.com

She wrote it.

116 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 4:44:04pm

re: #113 Gus

IT’S FUCKING CAMEL!

117 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 4:44:45pm

re: #112 klys

One of the absolute best things about LGF is sarc tags.

No, seriously, because I wish I could use them on the rest of the Internet and I can’t because nobody else gets it and it makes life so much easier.

Instead you’re left with “/sarcasm”. What an unbearable burden!

/sarcasm
//

(So, is doubled sarc tags as above the equivalent of saying “Everything I tell you is a lie.”? Enquiring lizards want to know!)

118 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:44:59pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

Try this one: twitter.com

She wrote it.

119 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 4:47:51pm

re: #118 Gus

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I am surprised that this black woman called it a ‘skin colored suit’.

Then she had some funny tweets about it being a ‘church suit’.

121 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 4:49:32pm

He’s only wearing a tan suit because he can’t pull off seersucker.

122 Cheechako  Aug 28, 2014 4:49:43pm

Jim Wright at Stonekettle Station has another interesting article:

Stonekettle Station: Ass Backward Into The Unknown

123 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:50:00pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

OH LOL

I too am stylish. //

124 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 4:50:32pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

Try this one: twitter.com

She wrote it.

That egg looks GOOD.

125 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 4:51:40pm

spinning wheel of death going on.

126 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 4:53:34pm

re: #124 Stanley Sea

That egg looks GOOD.

I poached two eggs last night. They’re small, as the egg club we joined has young chickens so we get small, yet tasty, eggs from them. Anyhoo, I poached one to perfection, and then, because they’re small eggs, I poached another to perfection to prove to myself that it wasn’t a fluke.

I love a good poached egg. And now I know I can do make them myself.

127 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 4:54:01pm

re: #126 darthstar

I poached two eggs last night. They’re small, as the egg club we joined has young chickens so we get small, yet tasty, eggs from them. Anyhoo, I poached one to perfection, and then, because they’re small eggs, I poached another to perfection to prove to myself that it wasn’t a fluke.

I love a good poached egg. And now I know I can do make them myself.

I can do make them. WTF? Oh well.

128 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 4:54:26pm

re: #100 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Fundamentalist Christians “love” on display when gay son comes out

Damn, I…well…I really don’t know what to say, Christian dogma FTW? :(

129 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 4:54:44pm

2009

130 lawhawk  Aug 28, 2014 4:55:28pm
131 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 4:56:40pm

re: #127 darthstar

I can do make them. WTF? Oh well.

I’ve tried, but I can’t do make them.

132 makeitstop  Aug 28, 2014 4:57:13pm

re: #108 Gus

Obama’s tan suit: Stop freaking out, Internet, it’s actually stylish - LA Times

HA!

We really gotta teach the internet about the concept of sarc tags. :)

133 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 4:59:01pm

Holy smokes! Solid red all down 101 from South City. Time to take the long way home.

134 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 4:59:29pm

re: #126 darthstar

I poached two eggs last night. They’re small, as the egg club we joined has young chickens so we get small, yet tasty, eggs from them. Anyhoo, I poached one to perfection, and then, because they’re small eggs, I poached another to perfection to prove to myself that it wasn’t a fluke.

I love a good poached egg. And now I know I can do make them myself.

I think that’s for dinner tonight. I have one of those egg poaching trays. Really easy & they come out perfect.

Mine is 4 eggs tho.

135 klys  Aug 28, 2014 4:59:34pm

re: #133 GeneJockey

Holy smokes! Solid red all down 101 from South City. Time to take the long way home.

…in other words, the Thursday before Labor Day?

136 Mike Lamb  Aug 28, 2014 5:00:09pm

Of course the suit thing is ridiculous, but “taupe and change” is kind of funny…

137 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:00:26pm

re: #133 GeneJockey

Because of the surf?

138 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:01:06pm

re: #135 klys

…in other words, the Thursday before Labor Day?

Yeah, but it’s only marginally worse than every other day. It’s why I never, ever take 101 going home.

And note, for SoCal Lizards - 101, not THE 101.
//

139 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 5:01:46pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

I think that’s for dinner tonight. I have one of those egg poaching trays. Really easy & they come out perfect.

Mine is 4 eggs tho.

can it really be called poaching if you are not actually cooking the egg directly in boiling water?

140 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:02:18pm

re: #138 GeneJockey

Yeah, but it’s only marginally worse than every other day. It’s why I never, ever take 101 going home.

And note, for SoCal Lizards - 101, not THE 101.
//

Really, taking 101 is what you do when you want to cause yourself great pain and get nowhere.

I am actually going to the office with the husband tomorrow so that we can leave relatively early for the games because we have to go up the hill on 680.
/shudder

141 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:02:28pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

Because of the surf?

More likely an accident in Morgan Hill, 50 miles away. 101 is always only a slight mishap away from being a parking lot.

142 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 5:02:36pm
143 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:02:46pm

re: #139 dog philosopher

can it really be called poaching if you are not actually cooking the egg directly in boiling water?

Ah whatever!!!!

144 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:03:56pm

re: #143 Stanley Sea

Ah whatever!!!!

If it’s in boiling water, it’s not really poaching, IIRC. Poaching involves water below the boil.

145 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 5:04:39pm

re: #144 GeneJockey

If it’s in boiling water, it’s not really poaching, IIRC. Poaching involves water below the boil.

Or taking them in an unauthorized manner from the hen.

146 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:05:15pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

Or taking them in an unauthorized manner from the hen.

*snork!*

147 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:05:19pm

re: #144 GeneJockey

If it’s in boiling water, it’s not really poaching, IIRC. Poaching involves water below the boil.

So I’m cooking a perfect egg over boiling water. Corrected.

148 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:06:20pm

re: #147 Stanley Sea

So I’m cooking a perfect egg over boiling water. Corrected.

If you like it and it tastes good, that’s what matters.

Although. Really. Eggs are to be eaten over-hard and that’s it. None of this foul (fowl?) soft yolk mess. Ugh.

149 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:07:23pm

re: #148 klys

If you like it and it tastes good, that’s what matters.

Although. Really. Eggs are to be eaten over-hard and that’s it. None of this foul (fowl?) soft yolk mess. Ugh.

If I get an egg hard, it’s trash.

So many people don’t like the yolk. I consider it nectar.

150 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:08:10pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

If I get an egg hard, it’s trash.

So many people don’t like the yolk. I consider it nectar.

Major texture issues for me. Major.

151 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:08:32pm

re: #147 Stanley Sea

So I’m cooking a perfect egg over boiling water. Corrected.

My Mom used to poach eggs the old fashioned way - dropping it into hot, not boiling water with a touch of vinegar. They came out perfect - pillowy white with a runny yolk just waiting to be poked to run out all over the toast.

Whenever I tried, I’d end up with a hardcooked yolk in the middle of flavorless egg drop soup.

152 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 5:09:31pm
153 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:09:42pm

re: #148 klys

If you like it and it tastes good, that’s what matters.

Although. Really. Eggs are to be eaten over-hard and that’s it. None of this foul (fowl?) soft yolk mess. Ugh.

Phillistine!

154 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:10:18pm

re: #153 GeneJockey

Phillistine!

You can have all of mine!

I wouldn’t be able to keep it down.

155 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:11:34pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

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Jesus Christ! No wonder those morons got us bogged down in Iraq for a decade! They don’t know the difference between a GOAL and a PLAN.

156 Lidane  Aug 28, 2014 5:12:49pm

Dear Wingnuts,

If you supported the run up to the Iraq war and the open-ended, half-assed strategery that we had for running two wars during the Bush years, you don’t get an opinion on whether or not we have a strategy about Syria and/or ISIS.

Take your outrage, your faux patriotism, and your sniping at Obama and shove them up your ass.

Fuck you all sideways with a 2x4.

No love,
Me

157 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:12:59pm

re: #154 klys

You can have all of mine!

I wouldn’t be able to keep it down.

It’s a kind offer, but by the time they got to my side of the Bay, they’d be cold and unpalatable.

158 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 5:13:57pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

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You know. I hate ISIS. I think they need to be bombed as much as possible. But these guys, the neocons, and the “classical liberals” are getting really carried away with the danger ISIS poses.

159 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:14:38pm

re: #154 klys

You can have all of mine!

I wouldn’t be able to keep it down.

Old story. My college roommate would not touch mushrooms. I sautéed some w/garlic & butter. Now, she’s pretty gourmet. I take credit.

I grew up with a South African Mom. Hell, we were eating stinky cheese as kids. Love that.

160 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 5:15:04pm

i can’t decide whether to take the big-endian or little-endian position on eggs

161 Floral Giraffe  Aug 28, 2014 5:15:46pm

re: #134 Stanley Sea

One eyed jacks! Poached egg, spinach & toast! Nom nom!

162 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:16:25pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

Old story. My college roommate would not touch mushrooms. I sautéed some w/garlic & butter. Now, she’s pretty gourmet. I take credit.

I grew up with a South African Mom. Hell, we were eating stinky cheese as kids. Love that.

I’m willing to compromise on taste things - try new things, revisit things I didn’t completely hate previously.

Texture is something I have significantly less control over. Unfortunately. The gag reflex there is pretty strong in certain situations.

163 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:16:43pm

re: #161 Floral Giraffe

One eyed jacks! Poached egg, spinach & toast! Nom nom!

Hey Flo!!! You talk to Hoops lately? He is missed.

164 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 5:16:43pm
165 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 5:17:17pm

actually in a former life i was a breakfast cook in a restaurant and rendered forth many hundreds if not thousands of eggs benedict, prepared differently depending on where i was working

166 Floral Giraffe  Aug 28, 2014 5:18:09pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

He is off in a different direction, and happy!

167 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:18:43pm

re: #165 dog philosopher

actually in a former life i was a breakfast cook in a restaurant and rendered forth many hundreds if not thousands of eggs benedict, prepared differently depending on where i was working

The day I learned how to make Hollandaise sauce was the day I started getting fat.

168 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:18:44pm

re: #158 Gus

You know. I hate ISIS. I think they need to be bombed as much as possible. But these guys, the neocons, and the “classical liberals” are getting really carried away with the danger ISIS poses.

It’s incredibly refreshing to not see the intellectual smug self-superior mix of “Obama can’t do anything right” and failure to provide any alternatives that could be discussed that they like to crap all over the place here anymore.

169 Floral Giraffe  Aug 28, 2014 5:18:45pm

re: #165 dog philosopher

Um, eggs benedict, are my sins…

170 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:18:50pm

re: #165 dog philosopher

actually in a former life i was a breakfast cook in a restaurant and rendered forth many hundreds if not thousands of eggs benedict, prepared differently depending on where i was working

Tricks? Please tell.

A fast order breakfast cook is I think the most talented.

171 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 5:19:52pm

re: #168 klys

It’s incredibly refreshing to not see the intellectual smug self-superior mix of “Obama can’t do anything right” and failure to provide any alternatives that could be discussed that they like to crap all over the place here anymore.

172 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:20:10pm

re: #166 Floral Giraffe

He is off in a different direction, and happy!

Glad to hear.

173 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:20:38pm

re: #168 klys

It’s incredibly refreshing to not see the intellectual smug self-superior mix of “Obama can’t do anything right” and failure to provide any alternatives that could be discussed that they like to crap all over the place here anymore.

It took me a bit of time to figure out that sentence. It’s either the sentence, or I’m in serious need of a vacation.

Or both - no need to falsely dichotomize.

174 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:20:41pm

re: #171 Gus

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Obama has no strategy, we are all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED. Obama has no foreign policy, we are all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

/impression off

175 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 5:20:44pm

Abu Du’a is a Specially Designated Global Terrorist under Executive Order 13224, with a $10M bounty on his head.

I dunno—a guy with this kind of ambition—establishing a “world caliphate” with himself as its supreme religious leader, one who approves of the kind of sociopathic behavior we have recently seen from his followers, and who proclaims himself to be a descendant of the Prophet Mohammed—seems to me to be a very dangerous individual indeed.

“Baghdadi’s goals are different. He is interested in global caliphate. You don’t need borders if it’s one state.

“Al-Qaeda does steer away from anti-Shia violence. This sentiment was gaining support, but Baghdadi told them to end the sentiment and to attack them as well. Even Osama bin Laden did not target Shias. When leaders of Al-Qaeda refused to follow the demand to attack Shias, Baghdadi told them he will not take orders from the terrorist organization anymore.

“Baghdadi believes the Shia are apostates and they must be eradicated, provoking a civil war with the Shia. After blowing up the shrine in Samarra, Baghdadi has his sights on Najaf and Karbala, the dens of Shia iniquity.”

america.aljazeera.com

There was a guy in the first half of the 20th century who wanted to rule the entire world, too, taking out those who didn’t quite “measure up” to his manufactured ideal.

176 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:21:03pm

re: #173 GeneJockey

It took me a bit of time to figure out that sentence. It’s either the sentence, or I’m in serious need of a vacation.

Or both - no need to falsely dichotomize.

Yeah, the syntax was kind of lousy. Mea culpa.

177 b.d.  Aug 28, 2014 5:21:30pm

DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE REPEALED OBAMACARE?
DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE DENIED OBAMA A SECOND TERM?
DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT?

NO!

PLANS ARE OVERRATED!

178 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 5:21:36pm

re: #174 klys

Obama has no strategy, we are all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED. Obama has no foreign policy, we are all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

/impression off

IF YOU DON’T THINK ISIS WILL UNLEASH THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE THEN YOU’RE WITH THE TERRORISTS AND HATE ISRAEL!!

179 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 5:21:48pm

re: #155 GeneJockey

Jesus Christ! No wonder those morons got us bogged down in Iraq for a decade! They don’t know the difference between a GOAL and a PLAN.

You see this all the time. It’s why conservatives still pretend to believe in and advocate for trickle down economics in spite of decades of repeated failure. Because lowering taxes is the goal that’s masquerading as a plan. The fact that it doesn’t ever result in increased economic activity or government revenue has absolutely no impact, it’s never factored in. There’s a very deliberate decoupling of any feedback mechanism, in this way conservative hypotheses are effectively never falsifiable, inasmuch as the real world simply cannot penetrate the ideology that spawned them.

180 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:22:17pm

re: #176 klys

Yeah, the syntax was kind of lousy. Mea culpa.

Now go and quietly scourge yourself.

181 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:24:01pm

re: #177 b.d.

DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE REPEALED OBAMACARE?
DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE DENIED OBAMA A SECOND TERM?
DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT?

NO!

PLANS ARE OVERRATED!

“Germans?”

“Forget it, he’s rolling.”

182 klys  Aug 28, 2014 5:24:13pm

re: #180 GeneJockey

Now go and quietly scourge yourself.

I looked into the Twitter cesspool for you and did my impression of the derp I found. That’s scourge enough.

183 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:25:01pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

You see this all the time. It’s why conservatives still pretend to believing and advocate for trickle down economics in spite of decades of repeated failure. Because lowering taxes is the goal that’s masquerading as a plan. The fact that it doesn’t ever result in increased economic activity or government revenue has absolutely no impact, it’s never factored in, there’s a very deliberate decoupling of any feedback mechanism. In this way conservative hypotheses are effectively never falsifiable, inasmuch as the real world simply cannot penetrate the ideology.

When BELIEF is more important than KNOWLEDGE, you don’t test your hypotheses.

184 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 5:25:54pm

Good evening Lizards. Found out today that downtown Memphis is just not that busy a place on weekday mornings. Traffic at 10am looked like what I see in Philly before 7am.

Besides an extended walk down Beale Street the highlights today were:
1) 45 minute walking tour of the Gibson Guitar Factory - (no photos!)

2) The Belz Museum of Asiatic and Judaic Art. Some exquisite stuff there and I will post photos - (some Iphone due to camera battery giving out. My fault for not verifying backup battery was fully charged. :( )

3) Mud Island Water Park. On an island just south of the I-40 bridge and accessed by footbridge (and a monorail tram). Contains a small amplitheater, a small by nice museum on the Mississippi River history around Memphis, and also a extensive area showing the Mississippi River flow from above Cairo all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. With water running in it.

On the food side I got some decent ribs and a cup of a very nice seafood gumbo - thick, smoky, and a bit of heat.

185 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 5:27:12pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea

Tricks? Please tell.

A fast order breakfast cook is I think the most talented.

to be perfectly honest we used double-boiler thingies not unlike the device in your picture to “poach” the eggs, even i hesitate to admit preparing the cups with a shot of ‘pam’

altho once i was called on to prepare eggs benedict for 22 without any devices and managed to get through the whole thing cooking the eggs directly in the water

there are a number of ways to make hollandaise sauce, but i will just comment that it should be clear that using cornstarch is barbarous and sinful, whereas using an electrically powered device to beat large quantities of the ingredients together is fine hey how else can i prepare a whole morning’s worth

186 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 5:27:20pm

Embroidery Detail

Close-up of some detail on a 19th century robe.

187 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 5:28:26pm
188 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:29:20pm

re: #177 b.d.

DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE REPEALED OBAMACARE?
DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE DENIED OBAMA A SECOND TERM?
DID WE NEED A PLAN WHEN WE SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT?

NO!

PLANS ARE OVERRATED!

But on a more serious note, this is why the Bush Administration was such a highly successful fuckup. They not only don’t believe in plans, they think all they have to do is cut taxes and kill terr’rists and everything will be hunky-dory. I once had a Randian tell me that if we only got rid of all government interference in the Free Market, the economy would expand forever.

And he was a Scientist, and pretty good at it.

189 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 5:29:49pm
190 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 5:30:07pm

Sigh.

191 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 5:30:41pm
192 GeneJockey  Aug 28, 2014 5:32:24pm

re: #186 Feline Fearless Leader

Embroidery Detail

Close-up of some detail on a 19th century robe.

The dragon’s face remind me of the male Greyhound when he’s in the middle of jump-spins.

193 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 5:33:51pm
194 b_sharp  Aug 28, 2014 5:35:50pm

re: #146 GeneJockey

*snork!*

We allow snorks here now?

195 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 5:36:57pm

This guy might be the dumbest motherfucker imaginable.

196 abolitionist  Aug 28, 2014 5:37:21pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

spinning wheel of death going on.

Altho Charles has said that NoScript may be more trouble than it’s worth (for a typical user), and recommended against its use, it’s an important layer of browser security for me, and I’m unwilling to abandon it. Still, tweeking it to allow LGF to work right can be frustrating. (Basically, I disallow googleanalytics, but permit most other stuff, for LGF; I also use AdBlockPlus, but still allow some ads on LGF)

To cope, I’ve resorted to using NoScript in it’s permissive mode (Allow Scripts Globally), or sometimes disabled completely. Also, I’ve created a special profile in my Mozilla browser(s), with more relaxed security settings. That special profile is used mainly just for satisfying LGF.

197 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:39:17pm

re: #196 abolitionist

Please come to my house and do all that to my computer.

198 abolitionist  Aug 28, 2014 5:40:15pm

re: #160 dog philosopher

i can’t decide whether to take the big-endian or little-endian position on eggs

I can’t decide if computers need don’t-know bits, and don’t-care bits. /

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 5:41:18pm
200 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 5:42:28pm

Yep, I was right, dumbest motherfucker imaginable.

201 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 28, 2014 5:42:43pm

re: #161 Floral Giraffe

One eyed jacks! Poached egg, spinach & toast! Nom nom!

Where does the spinach go?

202 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 5:42:52pm

re: #171 Gus

Gus @Gus_802

If we don’t stop ISIS NOW, surely they’ll deploy the doomsday machine!

Too late infidel, already our weapon of might devastates the tan suited ranks of your puny star fleet commanders!

ISIS Doomsday Machine!!!

Reliable ISIS sources Inform Us That This Tan Suited Captain Was Driven Mad By His Defeat!!!

203 b_sharp  Aug 28, 2014 5:42:54pm

re: #160 dog philosopher

i can’t decide whether to take the big-endian or little-endian position on eggs

Don’t worry about it, it’s not as big a deal as it’s cracked up to be.

204 abolitionist  Aug 28, 2014 5:43:36pm

re: #197 Stanley Sea

Please come to my house and do all that to my computer.

A simpler alternative may be to install an alternative browser for one’s special needs. Maybe consider SeaMonkey or PaleMoon.

205 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 5:43:41pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

Edited: wrong tweet, reload.

206 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 5:44:17pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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This guy might be the dumbest motherfucker imaginable.

It was hugely successful? Tell me good conservative is that why OBL was the world’s most wanted man for practically Bush’s entire presidency and why the “incompetent” Obama got him or why state terrorism sponsor Qaddafi went down in Obama’s presidency. Seems to me that conservatives can’t handle the fact that Obama’s been more effective on terrorism than Bush ever was.

207 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 5:44:29pm

There are still people who think Saddam really had WMDs.

Just Wow.

208 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 5:44:56pm

Something I thought real interesting from the Belz collection was carved ivory tusks. In some cases carved mammoth tusks.

Carved Mammoth Tusk

Carved Tusk close-up

209 lawhawk  Aug 28, 2014 5:45:13pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

Obama dismantled it? By getting OBL, a whole bunch of #2s, and using UAVs to go after high value targets from Afghanistan to Yemen?

210 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 5:45:30pm

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

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This guy might be the dumbest motherfucker imaginable.

Whoever has a Benghazi twibbon on their Twitter avi, subtract 75 IQ points.

211 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 5:45:39pm

re: #201 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Where does the spinach go?

Cooked with extra garlic and put on top of the eggs benedict!

212 Jenner7  Aug 28, 2014 5:47:58pm

re: #100 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Just heartbreaking to hear. I hope he stays far away from these “people”.

213 The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 28, 2014 5:48:02pm

War strategy? Plans?

We’ve got mullets, denim vests, and lots of matte-black weapons. Charge the enemy base and high-kick them to death as they attack in two and threes.

Make quips.

Don’t look back at explosions.

That’s what’s required to capture and hold territory, right?

Right?

214 Franklin  Aug 28, 2014 5:48:13pm
215 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 5:48:28pm

UN: ISLAMIC STATE GROUP THREATENS SYRIA AID ACCESS

bigstory.ap.org

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The Islamic State group is taking violence against civilians in Syria “to a new level,” threatening the cross-border humanitarian aid operations recently approved by the Security Council, a top U.N. aid official said Thursday.

“The U.N.’s deputy humanitarian chief, Kyung-wha Kang, told the council that both the extremists and the al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front are advancing on border crossings with Turkey “and could hinder additional cross-border operations.”

“The threat comes as U.N. humanitarian officials reported the first bit of improvement on getting aid to hard-to-reach people inside Syria, where more than 190,000 people have been killed in the conflict and almost one in two Syrians is either internally displaced or a refugee.” More

216 Floral Giraffe  Aug 28, 2014 5:49:01pm

re: #201 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Where does the spinach go?

Under the holandaise!

217 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 5:49:10pm

re: #214 Franklin

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Is he going to hit a watermelon with a mallet wearing that?

218 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 5:49:21pm

Evening again, Lizardim.

219 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 5:49:39pm

The Judaic Art side of the collection appears to be more modern and contemporary. But here are a couple of samples. (I probably need to get everything sorted and then put a page together - this is an interesting place worth an hour or so.)

Kiddush Plate and Cup

Sculpture titled “Love of Torah”

220 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:49:48pm

re: #200 goddamnedfrank

upding +2

221 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 5:51:19pm
222 Franklin  Aug 28, 2014 5:51:32pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Is he going to hit a watermelon with a mallet wearing that?

Just missing his beret!

223 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 5:52:09pm

ALL OF THEM. BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIE.

224 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 5:53:06pm

“Jesus H. Christ, you fucking children. You’d think Obama walked into the press room with his fly wide open and a streamer of toilet paper stuck to his shoe. It’s just a goddamn tan suit, people!”

Read more at thedailybanter.com

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 5:53:18pm

And of course a wildlife shot. I’ve seen skinks in Memphis, Shiloh, Chickamauga, and at Fort Donelson. Only the one at Fort Donelson sat still long enough for a picture.

Lizard at Large

226 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 5:53:18pm

They have one plan to deal with the competition:
1. PAY WORKERS LESS
2. MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY IF DON’T GET A TAX BREAK
3. STEAL UNDERPANTS
4. PROFIT!!!!!!

227 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 5:54:09pm

re: #208 Feline Fearless Leader

Something I thought real interesting from the Belz collection was carved ivory tusks. In some cases carved mammoth tusks.

Carved Mammoth Tusk

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beautiful. The hooves!

228 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 5:55:05pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

Like any American I don’t want our troops back in Iraq. But I have decided that for the purpose of my view of this administration and what president Obama decides to do about ISIS, the Iraq invasion never happened. GWB does not now matter. Oh sure for perspective and history I keep all that in mind. But I really think it’s a very bad idea to tie the hands of this President over the strategic mistakes of the last one. Obviously that leaves me at odds with many.

229 Floral Giraffe  Aug 28, 2014 5:56:04pm

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

Beautiful fence lizard!

230 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 5:56:09pm

re: #228 Rightwingconspirator

Like any American I don’t want our troops back in Iraq. But I have decided that for the purpose of my view of this administration and what president Obama decides to do about ISIS, the Iraq invasion never happened. GWB does not now matter. Oh sure for perspective and history I keep all that in mind. But I really think it’s a very bad idea to tie the hands of this President over the strategic mistakes of the last one. Obviously that leaves me at odds with many.

If we go in with a proper plan and not some half-baked, “Oh, we’ll kick Saddam’s ass and then, uhh, well, DERP”, then I think I’d be OK with going back in. We can’t be oblivious to the consequences, and Obama has to be up-front about that.

231 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 6:02:58pm

re: #228 Rightwingconspirator

Like any American I don’t want our troops back in Iraq. But I have decided that for the purpose of my view of this administration and what president Obama decides to do about ISIS, the Iraq invasion never happened. GWB does not now matter. Oh sure for perspective and history I keep all that in mind. But I really think it’s a very bad idea to tie the hands of this President over the strategic mistakes of the last one. Obviously that leaves me at odds with many.

It’s more like Bush proved that pure cocksuredness is no substitute for actually having a plan. Bush also used up whatever popular will there was in this country for an open ended ground involvement in the middle east, or anywhere for that matter. The sheer colossal scale of Bush’s fuck up will continue to shape US foreign policy for probably decades to come. What Bush did very much matters because it has shaped the political reality that determines if troops on the ground are even effectively possible.

232 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:03:28pm

re: #230 thedopefishlives

If we go in with a proper plan and not some half-baked, “Oh, we’ll kick Saddam’s ass and then, uhh, well, DERP”, then I think I’d be OK with going back in. We can’t be oblivious to the consequences, and Obama has to be up-front about that.

And I think he would be. You don’t put a $10M price on Abu Du’a’s head (more popularly known as “Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi”) without giving some serious consideration to what he is accomplishing and the threat he presents.

rewardsforjustice.net

233 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 28, 2014 6:04:00pm

re: #211 Feline Fearless Leader

Cooked with extra garlic and put on top of the eggs benedict!

I’m sorry, I thought “one-eyed jack” referred to something else entirely: An egg fried in hole cut in a slice of bread with a cookie cutter.

234 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 6:05:49pm

re: #233 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I’m sorry, I thought “one-eyed jack” referred to something else entirely: An egg fried in hole cut in a slice of bread with a cookie cutter.

Probably does - but I’ve never eaten spinach with those. Now eggs benedict on the other hand, I have. :)

235 urbanmeemaw  Aug 28, 2014 6:06:32pm

re: #97 BeachDem

Cheeky response from HuffPo UK:

President Obama has been accused of “shaming” an entire nation - by turning up to a televised press conference wearing a light-tan suit.

The content of Obama’s Thursday address, which included the invasion of Ukraine and the threat of ISIS, was lost on those in the briefing, with audible gasps heard as the 44th president entered the room.

All we need now is a picture of Obama playing golf in his tan suit. I can feel Maureen Dowd getting ready to regurgitate another insightful screed.
The horror… the horror…

Rumours abound that the breezy garb once belonged to Spiro Agnew, but these remain unconfirmed.

As the horror of the President’s wardrobe set in, thousands of Americans took to Twitter to share in the collective grief of being led by a man in beige two-piece.

So far there has been no reaction to Obama’s late summer wear from the Kremlin or the British Foreign Office, nor is the choice of tan likely to impact the forthcoming Nato summit in Britain.

Domestically, however, the president’s clothing could embolden those calling for his impeachment.

huffingtonpost.co.uk

236 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 6:08:21pm
237 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:10:03pm

re: #233 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I’m sorry, I thought “one-eyed jack” referred to something else entirely: An egg fried in hole cut in a slice of bread with a cookie cutter.

That’s “egg in a basket” or “toad in the hole”. Never made it myself—prefer my poached egg on real toast, both made separately. I poach the egg in about 1 inch of water in a “one-egg” pan, free-style, spooning water over the top of the egg at intervals, so there’s no “liquid” white remaining; don’t mind if the yellow runs since you have the toast to sop it up. : )

238 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 6:10:04pm
239 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 6:11:46pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

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I fucking get that way too in times like these.

240 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 6:12:07pm

I don’t have pierced ears. I might have to change that.

From here. Has links to original artist.

Later, lizards.

241 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:12:22pm

re: #239 Gus

I fucking get that way too in times like these.

Fuckin’ A.

242 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 6:13:03pm

re: #230 thedopefishlives

We can’t be oblivious to the consequences, and Obama has to be up-front about that.

Or the cost, CBO estimates $717 billion for caring for wounded Iraq/Afghan (mostly Iraq) veterans over the next 40 years.

243 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 6:14:21pm

Oh, and a couple of restaurant signs near Beale St. I’m sure McCain would approve of one, or maybe both?

Is that a Catfish bomber?

Hmm, a little bigotry against north of the border?

244 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:17:33pm

re: #238 Charles Johnson

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Heh. I’ve noticed a whole fucking lot of that from me, too. Damn wingnuts, cranking up the swearometer to fucking 11.

245 b_sharp  Aug 28, 2014 6:17:47pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

I don’t have pierced ears. I might have to change that.

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From here. Has links to original artist.

Later, lizards.

I don’t have pierced ears, but I have one pierced ear. I had to pierce it twice so the earrings would balance out the rocks in my head which are distributed unevenly.

246 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 6:19:24pm

You know who I really miss? This lady:

Youtube Video

I want to buy her a fruit basket.

247 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 28, 2014 6:21:09pm

I’ve been away from most of the internets for quite a while, because I’ve FINALLY become very busy with work. It’s amazing how good it can feel to suddenly be inundated with an unrealistically large amount of exactly the kind of work you’re good at after years of stagnation and boredom (lest this be seen as gloating in the face of others who I know have faced long-term work-related woes, keep in mind that it will be a CERTY-FIED “BOB”-DAMNED MIR’CLE if my company still exists a year from now, so there’s that).

And so, today, the whirlwind lets up enough that I can check in on the Twitter-ma-jig, and the tiny handful of websites that still exist which aren’t 100% dedicated to listicles, cat photos, five-paragraph articles split into 40 pages to appease the ad impression gods, and that one weird trick and WHAT TO MY WONDERING EYES SHOULD APPEAR but entirely too much outrageous outrage about the color of the President’s dad-blanged suit jacket!!!!11

I’ve only been away more than usual for about 2 weeks or so. In that time, I am 99.9999% certain that I didn’t get any smarter, but the interwebs sure seem a lot more stupid. Can the current rate of de-evolution hold? Frank Zappa once commented that hydrogen isn’t actually the most abundant element in the universe; it’s actually stupidity. He’s been dead for over 20 years and there’s still no credible refutation of his assertion.

He also once commented that the world will end not in fire nor ice, but in paperwork. This also seems to comport with the facts as I observe them.

248 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:21:51pm

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

You know who I really miss? This lady:

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Video

I want to buy her a fruit basket.

You miss a sociopath? Haha.

249 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:22:07pm

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

You know who I really miss? This lady:

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I want to buy her a fruit basket.

I heard something about the Birthers the other day and went over to the Fogbow to see what the ol’ Nirther queen was up to. Turns out she just got handed an ass-whipping from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, denying her appeal of a case that was dismissed because of a failure to properly file. The worst lawyer in the history of the universe, indeed.

250 Belafon  Aug 28, 2014 6:24:39pm

re: #122 Cheechako

Liked the article, but I will tell you I am stumped a bit: How are Democrats supposed to beat people who, 60+ years ago, thought nothing of killing a black person? Who, while Obama was doing his presser, saw n***** in a tan suit, some of whom believe that they have the right to remove him by force?

251 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:25:01pm

re: #249 thedopefishlives

I heard something about the Birthers the other day and went over to the Fogbow to see what the ol’ Nirther queen was up to. Turns out she just got handed an ass-whipping from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, denying her appeal of a case that was dismissed because of a failure to properly file. The worst lawyer in the history of the universe, indeed.

“Lawyer”, dentist, real estate queen, RW lunatic attention whore—and the last occupation is the only one she is probably any good at.

252 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 6:26:40pm

re: #248 Justanotherhuman

You miss a sociopath? Haha.

Fuck yeah. That video is an amazing glimpse at the barely focused, rage filled cirrhotic liver of modern conservatism.

253 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:26:56pm

re: #251 Justanotherhuman

“Lawyer”, dentist, real estate queen, RW lunatic attention whore—and the last occupation is the only one she is probably any good at.

For an attention whore, she’s not really getting any - I had to crawl into an obscure corner of the Interwebs to even hear of her continued existence.

254 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 6:27:37pm

Latest Jim Hoft promoted outrage…but posted at Progressives Today. (which looks surprisingly similar to gatewaypundit for some unknowable reason)

255 piratedan  Aug 28, 2014 6:29:02pm

re: #156 Lidane

don’t hold back, let us know how you really feel?

I’m sure it will all become clear when McCain dissects this foreign policy fiasco on MTP with the Chuckster on Sunday… won;t be any discussion of alternative ideas, just a good old fashioned gettin’ your hate on.

256 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:29:06pm

re: #254 ausador

I’m starting to wonder if Dim Jim is realizing that his GatewayPundit brand is soiled by his breathlessly fact-free ways and is resorting to ghostwriting his “journalism”. Son, I am disappoint.

257 Lidane  Aug 28, 2014 6:29:17pm
258 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 6:29:28pm

re: #254 ausador

Latest Jim Hoft promoted outrage…but posted at Progressives Today. (which looks surprisingly similar to gatewaypundit for some unknowable reason)

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So Jim Hoft was just furious about Michelle Malkin organizing harassing of a kid for testifying in favor of SCHIP right? Or wait another Hoft fauxrage.

259 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 6:29:58pm

re: #257 Lidane

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I’m honestly surprised they’re not homeschooled.

260 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:30:37pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I’m honestly surprised they’re not homeschooled.

Heh, good point. But I don’t think anyone is surprised that they’re already growing into little Second Amendment derptards. Daddy must be so proud.

261 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 6:31:27pm

re: #260 thedopefishlives

Heh, good point. But I don’t think anyone is surprised that they’re already growing into little Second Amendment derptards. Daddy must be so proud.

Granddaddy but yeah.

262 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:32:00pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Granddaddy but yeah.

Well, Daddy must be proud too. :P

263 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 6:32:25pm

re: #262 thedopefishlives

Well, Daddy must be proud too. :P

Heh true enough.

264 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 6:37:03pm

Nice little sidebar to the Kent Sorenson / Ron Paul Campaign bribery scandal. The $25K initial check that was given to Sorenson, reportedly in a men’s bathroom, was drawn on the account of a company called Designer Goldsmiths.

Because of course it was.

265 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 6:38:03pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

Nice little sidebar to the Kent Sorenson / Ron Paul Campaign bribery scandal. The $25K initial check that was given to Sorenson, reportedly in a men’s bathroom, was drawn on the account of a company called Designer Goldsmiths.

Because of course it was.

I’m going to point out that story next time I hear from some Paul sycophant that Luap Nor is “incorruptible.”

266 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 28, 2014 6:41:47pm

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

You know who I really miss? This lady:

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Video

I want to buy her a fruit basket.

Can’t watch it unless I disable “safety mode” and I ain’t doing that.

267 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:42:08pm

re: #257 Lidane

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What in hell would they need knives for? You can’t write with ‘em.

It’s not like they’re working in the cafeteria or anything, and the cafeteria has its own kitchen knives.

268 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:43:19pm

re: #267 Justanotherhuman

What in hell would they need knives for? You can’t write with ‘em.

It’s not like they’re working in the cafeteria or anything, and the cafeteria has its own kitchen knives.

Kids gotta defend themselves against The Man, just like their parents do back at Grandpa’s ranch with their guns.

269 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 6:44:11pm

Seems about right…lol. /

Skynet is that you?

270 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 6:44:29pm

re: #251 Justanotherhuman

“Lawyer”, dentist, real estate queen, RW lunatic attention whore—and the last occupation is the only one she is probably any good at.

But she found her “one honest judge” in Texas, who allowed her case against the government for not protecting her from immigrant children with chicken pox and TB to procede, even though she has no standing and she has no case. Part of her evidence was a script for a CPAP machine from a doc who appears to be every bit as sleazy as Taitz.

The judge, however, wants to embarrass the Feds, and is allowing Taitz to proceed as though she actually had a license to practice law in Texas.

thefogbow.com

271 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:44:43pm

This is no joke.

4 killed in accident involving truck, lawn mower in Murray County, Ga. - @11AliveNews
read more on 11alive.com

272 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:45:31pm

re: #270 Skip Intro

But she found her “one honest judge” in Texas, who allowed her case against the government for not protecting her from immigrant children with chicken pox and TB to procede, even though she has no standing and she has no case. Part of her evidence was a script for a CPAP machine from a doc who appears to be every bit as sleazy as Taitz.

The judge, however, wants to embarrass the Feds, and is allowing Taitz to proceed as though she actually had a license to practice law in Texas.

She’s representing herself; technically, she does not need a license to do so. However, the judge did admonish her that she has to demonstrate actual damages to her, so even though he’s clearly sympathetic, he’s playing by the rules.

273 SpaceJesus  Aug 28, 2014 6:46:42pm

what the hell is russia doing

274 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:47:21pm

re: #273 SpaceJesus

what the hell is russia doing

Invading eastern Ukraine? Hacking US banks?

275 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 6:49:31pm

FLIES (well, one fly)

Head on and ready to go!

276 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 6:50:04pm

re: #266 Pie-onist Overlord

Can’t watch it unless I disable “safety mode” and I ain’t doing that.

Just a 25 minute slightly drunken profanity filled rant by a woman upset that Obama was beating Romney. Mainly upset at her conservative friends for not reposting/forwarding the thousands of anti-Obama conspiracies/jokes/birther articles/etc. she had posted to Facebook over the last four years.

She was cussing out her own friends on election night for not spreading her deranged hatred and ridiculous debunked theories as if that alone was what made the difference in the election. If only her friends had become as sick as she is then obviously Romney would have won!

Sigh… :(

277 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 28, 2014 6:50:23pm

Uh I dont remember the 2nd amendment saying anything about knives

278 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 28, 2014 6:50:59pm

re: #273 SpaceJesus

what the hell is russia doing

Putin on the blitz.

279 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 6:51:24pm
280 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 6:51:53pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

Uh I dont remember the 2nd amendment saying anything about knives

It’s right there where it says God intended the US to be a theocracy in the way Bryan Fischer wants it.

281 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 6:52:15pm
282 SpaceJesus  Aug 28, 2014 6:52:36pm

It would be pretty great if the US had any moral credibility on the topic of invading other people’s countries without justification.

283 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 6:53:16pm

re: #281 Gus

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More importantly, to deal with a terrorist group like the Islamic State requires local partners, and those partners will have to be Iraqis. That’s why it is vital that a new government is formed in Baghdad with a renewed effort at inclusiveness among Shia, Sunnis, and Kurds. As the White House recognizes, if that effort fails, and the sectarianism persists, Iraq will disintegrate. And if the United States takes ownership of fighting the Islamic State, Iraq’s common security problem, there’d be little incentive for cooperation. Ultimately, a more fearsome civil war will occur, and the danger to the West will expand exponentially. Terrorists thrive in conflict zones.

Yes, we probably have a confrontation with the Islamic State — a group with a desire to kill Americans in its DNA — in our future. It’s a good bet that within a year or two, there will be extensive American intelligence operations throughout Iraq, and US drones flying its skies. As we head toward that eventuality, however, we should remember the critical advances (despite Edward Snowden) in US intelligence gathering since 9/11. We can’t stop every solo operative who gets his hands on a rifle or even gunpowder and ball bearings — but that reality doesn’t threaten our existence. And hysteria and missteps in the field aren’t going to make us safer.

284 PhillyPretzel  Aug 28, 2014 6:53:17pm

OT Can everyone see this post? I have a new Netgear modem and I am testing it.

285 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:53:48pm

re: #284 PhillyPretzel

OT Can everyone see this post? I have a new Netgear modem and I am testing it.

Nope.

286 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 6:54:03pm

re: #272 thedopefishlives

She’s representing herself; technically, she does not need a license to do so. However, the judge did admonish her that she has to demonstrate actual damages to her, so even though he’s clearly sympathetic, he’s playing by the rules.

Here’s a pretty good story on it: blogs.ocweekly.com

It does not, however mention that she’s arguing the case pro se, although it does allege she “shopped the case” to this particular judge.

“Shopping Taitz v. Johnson—as in Jeh Johnson, the Department of Homeland Security secretary, although Obama, Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell and the U.S. Border Patrol, Rio Grande Valley Sector, are also named as defendants—to Hanen would be unethical at best and illegal at worst.” More

287 PhillyPretzel  Aug 28, 2014 6:54:27pm

re: #285 thedopefishlives

did you forget the sarc tags?

288 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:54:40pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

Uh I dont remember the 2nd amendment saying anything about knives

Pinko communist liberal shill

289 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:54:55pm

re: #287 PhillyPretzel

did you forget the sarc tags?

Nope. I did, however, forget the “I’m being a smartass” tags.

290 Belafon  Aug 28, 2014 6:56:27pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

In Texas, while it is perfectly legal to walk around with a firearm, it is illegal to walk around with martial arts weapons. If they are in a car with you, they must be in the trunk.

291 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 6:56:30pm

re: #286 Justanotherhuman

Here’s a pretty good story on it: blogs.ocweekly.com

It does not, however mention that she’s arguing the case pro se, although it does allege she “shopped the case” to this particular judge.

“Shopping Taitz v. Johnson—as in Jeh Johnson, the Department of Homeland Security secretary, although Obama, Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell and the U.S. Border Patrol, Rio Grande Valley Sector, are also named as defendants—to Hanen would be unethical at best and illegal at worst.” More

Notice that she is the plaintiff in the case, so she is, in fact, representing herself, even if the article does not describe it as such. It’s a nice little technicality that lets her “practice law” in any jurisdiction she desires, by claiming herself as the aggrieved party.

292 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 6:58:09pm

re: #279 Charles Johnson

The thing is, when she said it I was part of it, so naturally I thought she was FOS.

293 PhillyPretzel  Aug 28, 2014 6:58:34pm

Believe it or not I started this at 8 this evening. Verizon would not give me my information. They wanted to give me another one of their reconditioned modems. It took the Netgear people contacting Verizon to get the information. :)

294 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 7:00:15pm
295 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:01:16pm

re: #291 thedopefishlives

You might want to read Tomtech’s BOTG report over at Fogbow.

thefogbow.com

296 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 7:01:52pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I’m honestly surprised they’re not homeschooled.

Moochers gotta mooch.

297 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 7:01:59pm

re: #294 ausador

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I thought it was a sign that winguts are stupider than rocks.

298 Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2014 7:02:29pm

The 4 yr old grandkid is coming to spend the holiday with us. That’s heartwarming, like when Alaric visited his BFFs in Rome. I strike back at his mother by providing projectile weapons. On July 4, it was a pair of catapults. Tomorrow I’m going to check for something from Estes with a ‘D’ motor.

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 7:03:36pm

re: #298 Decatur Deb

The 4 yr old grandkid is coming to spend the holiday with us. That’s heartwarming, like when Alaric visited his BFFs in Rome. I strike back at his mother by providing projectile weapons. On July 4, it was a pair of catapults. Tomorrow I’m going to check for something from Estes with a ‘D’ motor.

Have you considered a drum kit? Or is that an unwarranted escalation?
//

300 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 28, 2014 7:03:48pm

re: #237 Justanotherhuman

That’s “egg in a basket” or “toad in the hole”. Never made it myself—prefer my poached egg on real toast, both made separately. I poach the egg in about 1 inch of water in a “one-egg” pan, free-style, spooning water over the top of the egg at intervals, so there’s no “liquid” white remaining; don’t mind if the yellow runs since you have the toast to sop it up. : )

If you google “one-eyed jack egg” the images that come up are of what I described. The names for it are probably regional. My mother used to make it and just call it “egg in a frame”.

301 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 7:04:18pm

re: #295 Skip Intro

You might want to read Tomtech’s BOTG report over at Fogbow.

thefogbow.com

Hmm. I guess I misread something somewhere along the line. I take it all back.

302 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 7:04:35pm

re: #275 Feline Fearless Leader

FLIES (well, one fly)

[Embedded image]

Head on and ready to go!

ewe

303 Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2014 7:06:03pm

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

Have you considered a drum kit? Or is that an unwarranted escalation?
//

No, I’ll put it on the list. The roaring T-rex was a big hit.

304 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 7:07:43pm

re: #291 thedopefishlives

Notice that she is the plaintiff in the case, so she is, in fact, representing herself, even if the article does not describe it as such. It’s a nice little technicality that lets her “practice law” in any jurisdiction she desires, by claiming herself as the aggrieved party.

Yes. To paraphrase, a plaintiff who represents herself has a fool for a lawyer…

305 TedStriker  Aug 28, 2014 7:08:13pm

re: #38 lawhawk

But remember, Paul Ryan says that Obamacare is about to collapse.

The only thing collapsing is the states that refused to expand Medicare as part of the ACA, are realizing that they’ve screwed their residents.

It’s not so much the the TPGOPers are realizing that they’re screwing their constituents, because, let’s face it, when has that stopped them before when enough money and the hope of more power is dangled in front of them?

What’s starting to get their attention is that many of those constituents, even some otherwise rock-ribbed Republicans, are starting to raise holy hell about getting screwed in a nakedly partisan power play.

306 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 7:10:04pm

re: #304 Justanotherhuman

Yes. To paraphrase, a plaintiff who represents herself has a fool for a lawyer…

And a plaintiff who is the worst lawyer in the history of the universe, well, that’s just asking for an epic fail.

307 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:10:40pm

re: #301 thedopefishlives

Hmm. I guess I misread something somewhere along the line. I take it all back.

There’s also this.

valleymorningstar.com

Love the first - and only - comment. Orly does have her fans.

And another thread at Fogbow.

thefogbow.com

308 thedopefishlives  Aug 28, 2014 7:16:20pm

Goodnight, gentle lizardfolk. May your basking rocks stay warm, even though winter is coming. And don’t bite - regrowing a tail is a long and painful process.

309 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 7:17:58pm

re: #302 Stanley Sea

ewe

Yep. Not my favorite critter. At least this one wasn’t attempting to land on me in order to bite a hole in me.

310 Belafon  Aug 28, 2014 7:18:11pm

re: #303 Decatur Deb

A big box of markers and a ream of white paper.

ETA: Scissor and construction paper are also pretty cool. Teach the four year old how to make snowflakes.

311 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 7:18:22pm

re: #303 Decatur Deb

No, I’ll put it on the list. The roaring T-rex was a big hit.

Drums, cymbals, and even other non-percussion instrument sounds can be had from an electronic drum pad, some at very reasonable prices. ;)

312 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 7:19:57pm

re: #12 BeachDem

Just for you, Sleuth—from a Kentucky Kroger (just received in an email from Moms Demand Action)

Shopping Kroger with both of his “babies”

Well, he’s got good slings for both, so in my book he’s OK. Not good, but OK. There’s a measurable difference in my mind between having a rifle slung in front pointed up such as looks like one is ready for war and a rifle slung across the back pointed down.

313 Belafon  Aug 28, 2014 7:21:01pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

And if he actually needed to get to the gun he’s pretty much have to toss the kid. He just looks like a dumbass.

314 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 28, 2014 7:21:40pm

re: #311 ausador

Drums, cymbals, and even other non-percussion instrument sounds can be had from an electronic drum pad, some at very reasonable prices. ;)

If you want to be more subtle, have you considered something like the game “Trouble” with the built-in Pop-O-Matic?

en.wikipedia.org

My father hated the sound of that with a vengeance after it traveled on a driving vacation. (It came along since the die couldn’t get lost.)

315 Justanotherhuman  Aug 28, 2014 7:21:54pm

Have a great rest of the night, Lizards! Later…

316 Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2014 7:21:57pm

re: #310 Belafon

A big box of markers and a ream of white paper.

ETA: Scissor and construction paper are also pretty cool. Teach the four year old how to make snowflakes.

Snowflakes? I’m going to teach him how to make book.

317 Belafon  Aug 28, 2014 7:23:26pm

re: #316 Decatur Deb

Snowflakes are great because those little pieces of paper get scattered everywhere, and the small ones can be really hard to get up, static electricity causes them to stick to things…

318 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 7:24:33pm

re: #313 Belafon

And if he actually needed to get to the gun he’s pretty much have to toss the kid. He just looks like a dumbass.

and a tool.

319 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:27:49pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

So why does he need to carry a rifle in a grocery store? I really don’t get that at all.

320 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 7:29:02pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

Well, he’s got good slings for both, so in my book he’s OK. Not good, but OK. There’s a measurable difference in my mind between having a rifle slung in front pointed up such as looks like one is ready for war and a rifle slung across the back pointed down.

Yes, but the effectiveness of a new born worn across the chest in place of a protective vest has not been studied in any detail yet. While the child might be capable of stopping .22 or.380 slugs from entering the fathers body I doubt it could prevent penetration by anything larger.

321 PhillyPretzel  Aug 28, 2014 7:29:23pm

Thanks for your help. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

322 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 7:29:37pm

re: #319 Skip Intro

So why does he need to carry a rifle in a grocery store? I really don’t get that at all.

Yeah I don’t get that either. I just don’t.

323 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 7:30:48pm

re: #319 Skip Intro

So why does he need to carry a rifle in a grocery store? I really don’t get that at all.

His kid is just 8 years away from going to a range to shoot an uzi.

324 Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2014 7:32:33pm

re: #320 ausador

Yes, but the effectiveness of a new born worn across the chest in place of a protective vest has not been studied in any detail yet. While the child might be capable of stopping .22 or.380 slugs from entering the fathers body I doubt it could prevent penetration by anything larger.

Could slip a couple Fisher-Price ceramic chicken plates in the kid’s carrier.

325 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 7:34:10pm

re: #319 Skip Intro

So why does he need to carry a rifle in a grocery store? I really don’t get that at all.

imho they aren’t tools meant to be used so much as gestures meant to assert their membership in the fuck-you-liberals society

326 sagehen  Aug 28, 2014 7:36:05pm

Watching “The Honorable Woman” on Sundance channel —

MI6 guy to Mossad guy: “I find that hard to believe. You’re telling me that until just now, until I told you, you’d never heard of it?”

Mossad guy: “No. I’m telling you that even now, after you just told me, I’ve still never heard of it.”

327 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 7:43:13pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get that either. I just don’t.

They say that they are campaigning for the right to open carry sidearms in their states. The theory is that by walking around everywhere with rifles openly carried they will get the public used to the idea of being around people carrying guns. Then they will be able to get the public support they need to overturn the laws preventing them from walking around with handguns on their hips.

In reality though they are not helping their cause at all, they are just freaking people out and making them realize what self-centered douches these people are. When African-American groups start parading around with long guns (and some already have) as a counter-protest this nonsense should stop pretty quickly.

After all that is where the California guns laws got their start, outlawing the Black Panthers open carry marches.

328 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:43:59pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get that either. I just don’t.

I think it’s a wingnut fashion accessory. Tats are out; carrying a weapon while you shop for underpants at Target is in.

329 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:45:49pm

re: #327 ausador

Why would anybody think, in a country not named Somalia, carrying weapons everywhere is a good idea?

330 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 7:45:51pm

re: #328 Skip Intro

I think it’s a wingnut fashion accessory. Tats are out; carrying a weapon while you shop for underpants at Target is in.

What’s out? Aside from showing common sense.

331 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 7:46:16pm

re: #329 Skip Intro

Why would anybody think, in a country not named Somalia, carrying weapons everywhere is a good idea?

TJS- Tiny Junk Syndrome.

332 ausador  Aug 28, 2014 7:56:18pm

re: #329 Skip Intro

Why would anybody think, in a country not named Somalia, carrying weapons everywhere is a good idea?

I don’t know, why would anyone think that open carry was not outlawed for good reason in the first place? If everyone is walking around with a gun on their hip normal arguments can turn into shootings, and did. People are fallible and prone to emotional overreaction in times of high stress.

Even “Good Guys With Guns™”

333 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 7:56:47pm

Hey DF & RWC? Before I run off to work, I brought my latest bit of history home today. Image: _1012483.JPG

Early 1945 Inland produced M1 Carbine. $400 out the door - about half the usual rate these days… ;)

334 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 7:57:37pm

re: #329 Skip Intro

Why would anybody think, in a country not named Somalia, carrying weapons everywhere is a good idea?

Well, if it’s a concealed handgun then a good argument may be made for protection. In the case of that Kroger shopper, though, the rifle is a ‘badge of belonging’ in the pro-gun brotherhood.

re: #331 HappyWarrior

TJS- Tiny Junk Syndrome.

Actually, that might be why he wears the rifle in back: His child is better proof that he has a properly functioning penis.

335 Skip Intro  Aug 28, 2014 7:58:23pm

Aren’t you glad you don’t live here?

Link

336 BongCrodny  Aug 28, 2014 7:58:57pm

re: #313 Belafon

And if he actually needed to get to the gun he’s pretty much have to toss the kid. He just looks like a dumbass.

If there truly was any sort of urgent situation, he — or the kid — would likely be dead before he could get to the gun.

337 klys  Aug 28, 2014 8:00:08pm

re: #336 BongCrodny

If there truly was any sort of urgent situation, he — or the kid — would likely be dead before he could get to the gun.

Not to mention, he certainly increased his priority as a target in case something were to actually happen.

338 Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2014 8:01:35pm

re: #333 William Barnett-Lewis

Hey DF & RWC? Before I run off to work, I brought my latest bit of history home today. Image: _1012483.JPG

Early 1945 Inland produced M1 Carbine. $400 out the door - about half the usual rate these days… ;)

Now you can go to Krogers.

339 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:02:02pm

re: #333 William Barnett-Lewis

Hey DF & RWC? Before I run off to work, I brought my latest bit of history home today. Image: _1012483.JPG

Early 1945 Inland produced M1 Carbine. $400 out the door - about half the usual rate these days… ;)

You’re very naughty with that bayonet lug William. You’ll give the ‘moms demanding action’ The Vapors with your Scary Evil Assault Weapon!

//

340 Decatur Deb  Aug 28, 2014 8:02:49pm

‘Nite, all.

341 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 8:07:29pm

re: #338 Decatur Deb

Now you can go to Krogers.

Heh. Not bleeping likely but I’d rather it than the mattel worn as a fashion statement by that twit.

342 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 28, 2014 8:07:52pm

dammm

343 simoom  Aug 28, 2014 8:08:57pm

ABC News article, initial title from six hours ago, as reflected in this tweet (“Obama: ‘We Don’t Have a Strategy’ to Fight ISIS”):

If you click the link, that original title has been replaced with this, more accurate title:

President Obama Says ‘We Don’t Have a Strategy Yet’ to Bomb ISIS in Syria

I can’t find a cached version of it so I’m not sure when the update occurred.

[edit: based on the contents of RT’s of the story, the headline change occurred just over an hour ago.]

344 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 8:09:12pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

You’re very naughty with that bayonet lug William. You’ll give the ‘moms demanding action’ The Vapors with your Scary Evil Assault Weapon!

//

I only wish I could afford the M2 selective fire version which arguably _is_ an assault rifle even though we didn’t call things that in 1945. Those start at $12,000 for a legally transferable one.

345 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:09:38pm

re: #341 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. Not bleeping likely but I’d rather it than the mattel worn as a fashion statement by that twit.

Now there’s a throwback bit of slang folks, calling an AR-15 a “Mattel Toy”. When the M-16 was first introduced in the 1960’s it suffered under that nickname.

346 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 8:17:06pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

Thought you’d get the reference.

347 socrets  Aug 29, 2014 7:33:00am

I’m starting to think that conservatives are incapable of understanding or expressing anything that can’t be explained in a sentence or a quick sound bite. Also, am I the only one who thinks the President looks pretty dapper in that suit?


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