Video Messaging App Maker Verifies Ferguson Shooting Recording, Including Location

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Here’s the official statement from Glide, the company that makes the video messaging app used by the man who inadvertently recorded audio of the gunshots that ended Michael Brown’s life in Ferguson, Missouri: Glide Verifies Ferguson Shooting Recording.

As you may already have seen on CNN, MSNBC’s “The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell,” the local FOX affiliate in St. Louis and Riverfront Times, the Glide mobile app is being mentioned in the current news cycle surrounding the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, MO, with a video message created using the app having surfaced as potentially critical evidence.

While tragedy is never good news, and our hearts go out to the family of Michael Brown, this incident underscores how technology is changing the landscape of not only journalism, but also criminology.

A Glide user living nearby (whose identity is being protected) was simply using the Glide app on their smartphone exactly as it was designed - to instantly communicate with a friend through our real-time video texting service. Simultaneously, they also captured audio in the background of the gunshots allegedly fired at Michael Brown.

Because Glide is the only messaging application using streaming video technology, each message is simultaneously recorded and transmitted, so the exact time can be verified to the second. In this case, the video in question was created at 12:02:14 PM CDT on Saturday, August 9th.

We commend this Glide user for turning their Glide video message over to FBI investigators as possible evidence in this ongoing investigation.

The important bit of new information in this statement: Glide is also confirming that the man who recorded this audio lives near the street where Michael Brown was gunned down.

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1 klys  Aug 28, 2014 8:07:38pm

They did an excellent job of highlighting their product in this release too. Some PR person worked on that for a bit.

I’d like to think this evidence makes a difference, but there’s an awful lot we don’t know about how the scene on the ground was processed, and a lot of reasons to be very skeptical.

2 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 8:08:00pm

it’s an additional piece of the puzzle. Good to have. The pace of the last shots is kinda creepy to me. A man under immediate attack shoots fast. A man on the move himself or seeking a better sight picture shoots slower. And that several second pause… Wow.

Thing is it’s the tenth piece in a 100 piece puzzle so it’s not terribly illustrative as to what happened…. quite yet. What I fear is missing forever is good photography and documentation of the scene. Blood trails or spatter if any, Location of the gun brass etc.

Would it be helpful to put this to black video with time code? I could do that I think. Just not sure how helpful it is to define the splits between all the shots.

3 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 8:11:18pm

They so wished it was faked. Hard to admit a cop killing . It is so brutally disgusting.

4 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:16:33pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

They so wished it was faked. Hard to admit a cop killing . It is so brutally disgusting.

The death of Michael Brown was a “killing by a cop”. A “cop killing” is when it is the police officer who is killed.

5 klys  Aug 28, 2014 8:17:26pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

The death of Michael Brown was a “killing by a cop”. A “cop killing” is when it is the police officer who is killed.

You read it as a two word noun. I believe it was meant, in this case, as a noun-verb pair, as in a “cop killing someone.”

6 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 8:18:38pm

re: #5 klys

Right, but I admit I did a little double take on it. Context locks it in though.

7 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:18:54pm

re: #5 klys

You read it as a two word noun. I believe it was meant, in this case, as a noun-verb pair, as in a “cop killing someone.”

I can see that, but its still better reworded to remove confusion. At least in my opinion.

8 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 8:20:20pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

The death of Michael Brown was a “killing by a cop”. A “cop killing” is when it is the police officer who is killed.

I’m burnt. Oops.

9 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 8:22:22pm

But actually these days cop killing someone seems to be more prevelant.

10 Stanley Sea  Aug 28, 2014 8:24:19pm

And I’m out. Novel time. Take care lizards.

11 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:24:51pm

And this next one goes out to Jim Hoft:

Hey, Jim, you wanna bitch about Chicago crime? Here’s some Chicago crime for ya!

Chicago police commander accused of sticking firearm in suspect’s mouth

Chicago police commander Glenn Evans has been charged with aggravated battery and official misconduct on a case dating back to January of 2013. Evans chased and arrested 24 year old Rickey J. Williams after he was allegedly spotted with a gun in public. The gun was never found by police and charges against Williams were eventually dropped.

Rickey Williams made an official complaint about the arrest claiming that Evans used his police issued firearm and placed it in Williams mouth. The complaint was followed up on by the Independent Police Review Authority and Williams DNA was found on Evans firearm.

It must also be noted that Williams is current in jail himself for an unrelated matter, nothing Williams was or is accused of doing justified assaulting and threatening him with a gun in that fashion. Evans is a bad cop and Chicago will be better off without him.

12 Jenner7  Aug 28, 2014 8:27:22pm

OT: My State, Utah, refuses to expand medicaid, but our Governor is trying to find a compromise. So, they formed a task force and this is from today’s meeting.

In response to a doctor testifying that his neighbor had a bad reaction to a pain medication, Rep. Mike Kennedy (Republican from Alpine AND a doctor himself) said this:

Sometimes access actually can mean harm,” said Representative Mike Kennedy, a family physician.

The Republican from Alpine repeated the argument more than once: “Sometimes access to health care can be damaging and dangerous. And it’s a perspective for the [Legislative] body to consider is that, I’ve heard from National Institutes of Health and otherwise that we’re killing up to a million, a million and a half people every year in our hospitals. And it’s access to hospitals that’s killing those people.

fox13now.com

This is what I have to deal with. This has got to be the stupidest argument against expanding medicaid. And this man is a fucking doctor.

13 jaunte  Aug 28, 2014 8:29:47pm

So location and exact time can be verified. Sounds like a ‘must have’ app for legal recourse.

14 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:30:50pm
15 Sherlock Hound  Aug 28, 2014 8:31:14pm

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

I’m not hopeful on that score. Wasn’t long ago that Ted Nugent publicly invited Hilary Clinton to “eat” his gun in the same way.

16 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 8:32:29pm

There is a critical change that needs to happen in L.E. gun training. Well two, The second may be impractical. First is the contagious fire. Obviously not relevant in Browns case but in plenty others. One cop shoots and they all unload on the poor guy. It’s dangerous, it’s overkill, and it leads to my next point directly.

One of the worst aspects of these shootings is the number of hits on the victim. It’s possible to train for a particular method that limits fire called (by some) shoot/asses/react. it’s take a shot take a look before shooting again in laymans terms. For police it gives them a chance to stop shooting at a guy that stopped being a threat. Not have so many blue side bullets flying down the neighborhood.For a guy like Michael Brown it’s a fair chance to give up before fatally hit. But it is hard to learn in terms of time and resources. It’s a boatload of shooting. You have to get where you shoot without blinking at the noise or flash among other things.

17 stpaulbear  Aug 28, 2014 8:36:06pm
While tragedy is never good news, and our hearts go out to the family of Michael Brown,

But what about the trajedy for Darren Wilson!! He was just doing his job like he always does and had to go into hiding form all the libs and racist haterz!!

Actually, I like how that quote never even mentions Wilson’s name. It is completely focused on Brown.

18 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 8:38:16pm

re: #16 Rightwingconspirator

There is a critical change that needs to happen in L.E. gun training. Well two, The second may be impractical. First is the contagious fire. Obviously not relevant in Browns case but in plenty others. One cop shoots and they all unload on the poor guy. It’s dangerous, it’s overkill, and it leads to my next point directly.

One of the worst aspects of these shootings is the number of hits on the victim. It’s possible to train for a particular method that limits fire called (by some) shoot/asses/react. it’s take a shot take a look before shooting again in laymans terms. For police it gives them a chance to stop shooting at a guy that stopped being a threat. Not have so many blue side bullets flying down the neighborhood.For a guy like Michael Brown it’s a fair chance to give up before fatally hit. But it is hard to learn in terms of time and resources. It’s a boatload of shooting. You have to get where you shoot without blinking at the noise or flash among other things.

Contagious fire likely is not a solvable problem. It happens even in tightly disciplined military units and is the product of stress and danger reactions that cannot be fully suppressed.

19 klys  Aug 28, 2014 8:47:39pm

This is an actual eruption.

20 klys  Aug 28, 2014 8:48:09pm

re: #19 klys

Hat tip to Gus on that one, since he RTed it.

21 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 8:49:35pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Well I might disagree on two levels. One is in many instances some of the police on scene gun in hand don’t shoot. Those instances are good teaching moments. Plus there are methods where you have four police roll up and a couple go to Taser instead of gun. Or one and one. This is way inside police tactics but perhaps change will now be required. De escalation skills are very uneven out there. That is fixable. it’s about time in training.

22 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 8:52:54pm
23 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 8:54:12pm

re: #21 Rightwingconspirator

Well I might disagree on two levels. One is in many instances some of the police on scene gun in hand don’t shoot. Those instances are good teaching moments. Plus there are methods where you have four police roll up and a couple go to Taser instead of gun. Or one and one. This is way inside police tactics but perhaps change will now be required. De escalation skills are very uneven out there. That is fixable. it’s about time in training.

Two black cops just took a white guy with a knife down using tasers the other day in Michigan (at least I think it was Michigan).

Change is possible. But some people will find any excuse to prevent it.

24 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 8:56:18pm

re: #19 klys

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This is an actual eruption.

Bardabunga is a big fucking volcano. And there are two other volcanoes near it that are apparently sharing the same fissures…or maybe it’s more accurate to say the fissures of the three volcanoes are merging.

25 Targetpractice  Aug 28, 2014 9:02:17pm

Of course, it doesn’t matter how much evidence comes out that shoots holes in the FPD/STLCPD version of events, the wingnuts will insist that it must be the truth, if only because the alternative is to acknowledge that they’ve bet on the wrong horse…again.

26 lostlakehiker  Aug 28, 2014 9:02:25pm

It comes as no surprise to learn that the tape is authentic. I figured that in this day, anything of the sort would somehow or other be associated with a time stamp. And sure enough…

And who, among the population of unheralded civilians, would want to wade into this situation with a fabrication? At this late date? Earlier would have brought more attention and at no greater risk of being exposed.

Of course it’s authentic. But the spadework has to be done, to nail it down. It’s nailed down.

27 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 9:04:53pm

re: #23 darthstar

Two black cops just took a white guy with a knife down using tasers the other day in Michigan (at least I think it was Michigan).

Change is possible. But some people will find any excuse to prevent it.

You know I think that’s the thing right there.

28 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2014 9:05:23pm

Hoft etc: “This proves that Brown bum rushed Wilson!!!!”

29 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 28, 2014 9:06:55pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

Of course, it doesn’t matter how much evidence comes out that shoots holes in the FPD/STLCPD version of events, the wingnuts will insist that it must be the truth, if only because the alternative is to acknowledge that they’ve bet on the wrong horse…again.

It doesn’t even come down to that. It’s all about black vs. white to them.

30 SpaceJesus  Aug 28, 2014 9:09:57pm

who told obama to wear that suit for today’s speech? ugh

31 ibob  Aug 28, 2014 9:12:33pm

re: #12 Jenner7

OT: My State, Utah, refuses to expand medicaid, but our Governor is trying to find a compromise. So, they formed a task force and this is from today’s meeting.

In response to a doctor testifying that his neighbor had a bad reaction to a pain medication, Rep. Mike Kennedy (Republican from Alpine AND a doctor himself) said this:

fox13now.com

This is what I have to deal with. This has got to be the stupidest argument against expanding medicaid. And this man is a fucking doctor.

RWNJ doctors are no different any other RWNJ’s. In fact, they may be worse. The Dunning - Kruger effect is very strong in them. They believe because they can memorize a large amount of material and regurgitate on a test, they are experts in any field.

If you don’t want to hear some world-class derp, stay out of the doctors’ lounge. Fox News is on all the time.

32 klys  Aug 28, 2014 9:13:12pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

who told obama to wear that suit for today’s speech? ugh

He clearly should have delivered the speech in the buff to avoid having his clothing detract from the actual important issues that he talked about.

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33 KingKenrod  Aug 28, 2014 9:16:56pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

who told obama to wear that suit for today’s speech? ugh

Some people just don’t know how to dress for the occasion.
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34 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 9:17:51pm
35 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 9:20:05pm
36 Chez Ko Pe  Aug 28, 2014 9:24:29pm

Whoops, guess it’s time for some more “I reject reality (with its liberal bias) and substitute my own” from Mr. Hoft.

However, I fear Mr. Ben Stein is after his title of Stupidest Man on the Internet.

37 teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2014 9:25:22pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Dude, nice comb-over. You’re making Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken blush.

38 darthstar  Aug 28, 2014 9:26:13pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

who told obama to wear that suit for today’s speech? ugh

I did. Got a problem with that?

39 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 9:26:37pm

re: #16 Rightwingconspirator
Police have always had a tendency to empty their sidearm and only then ask questions. When carrying a model 10 and a dump pouch, this is a smaller problem. With a high capacity Glock, it’s a very different story. Combine this with poor and/or nonexistent marksmanship training? Mess. Big mess.

40 teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2014 9:26:56pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Dude, nice comb-over. You’re making Ernie “Big Ern” McCracken blush.

Didn’t I tell you to call me Ernie, or Big Ern?

41 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 9:31:18pm

re: #39 William Barnett-Lewis

I wonder how hard it would be to hack a good first person shooter game into a shoot/no shoot simulator. A police training version. A CCW version. A woke up at home to noises from the living room.

42 SpaceJesus  Aug 28, 2014 9:33:25pm

re: #32 klys

Thinking about it more, I think Obama’s suit is some way of throwing Putin off. I’m not sure exactly how, but I think that’s what it is.

43 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 9:34:09pm
44 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 9:35:01pm

re: #39 William Barnett-Lewis

Police have always had a tendency to empty their sidearm and only then ask questions. When carrying a model 10 and a dump pouch, this is a smaller problem. With a high capacity Glock, it’s a very different story. Combine this with poor and/or nonexistent marksmanship training? Mess. Big mess.

The problem is that police moved to semi-autos after several cases where revolver armed cops ran out of ammo and then were gunne down by semi-auto armed criminals. The FBI did so after a 1980’s shootout with a pair of bank robbers where two agents were shot dead after having to reload after only six shots left them sitting ducks for one of the robbers’ Mini-14 rifle.

So I am going to have to disagree with you on this one, William. Cops need a semi-auto’s firepower due to the guns carried by some criminals. You can make a decent case against cops carrying M4s, but not against carrying semi-auto pistols.

45 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 9:35:19pm

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

I wonder how hard it would be to hack a good first person shooter game into a shoot/no shoot simulator. A police training version. A CCW version. A woke up at home to noises from the living room.

Id released the Doom sources sometime ago. They’d be relatively easy to do that with. I’d pay good money for it.

46 teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2014 9:35:46pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

who told obama to wear that suit for today’s speech? ugh

47 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 28, 2014 9:38:40pm

re: #45 William Barnett-Lewis

Id released the Doom sources sometime ago. They’d be relatively easy to do that with. I’d pay good money for it.

You get it state certified as a training course or adjunct and the grant monies or training budgets will pay for it. Project your image onto a screen at an indoor range and you can ramp it up for live fire. Police department win.

48 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 9:39:04pm

49 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 9:40:45pm

And he’s off to the races!

50 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 9:41:10pm

re: #48 Gus

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He’s on a hate-following binge, I guess.

51 Gus  Aug 28, 2014 9:41:21pm
52 Dark_Falcon  Aug 28, 2014 9:44:58pm

Good Night, All.

53 Charles Johnson  Aug 28, 2014 9:46:07pm

Another new follower tonight: @christinakb

54 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 9:46:15pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon
I’m on my phone so it’s difficult to link but I’d say that what real need there is can be better addressed with training and single stack pistols like S&W’s classic model 39.

55 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 9:49:53pm

Peter LaBarbera strikes me as one of those anti gay rights activists that watches a lot of gay porno, I mean petabytes of the stuff. He probably dreams about vast acres of turgid, old growth forests stands where proud majestic penises gently slap him in the face.

56 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 9:50:21pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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People like Peter really are. They’ve been losing a battle for years but thanks to the idiots in the Republican party that pander to them, they stay relevant but make no mistake, they’re losing the hearts and minds of the children of this generation and I couldn’t be happier.

57 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 9:51:05pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Peter LaBarbera strikes me as one of those as one of those anti gay rights activists that watches a lot of gay porno, I mean petabytes of the stuff. He probably dreams about vast acres of turgid, old growth forests stands where proud majestic penises gently slap him in the face.

I’ve felt the same way about Bryan Fischer myself Frank. A lot of obsession with what other adults do in the privacy of their own homes just isn’t normal and that’s pretty much the tale about pretty much all these RR bigots.

58 Amory Blaine  Aug 28, 2014 9:51:20pm

Wisconsin revenue for 2013-14 comes in $281 million short of expectations

Oops.

59 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 9:51:46pm

re: #58 Amory Blaine

Wisconsin revenue for 2013-14 comes in $281 million short of expectations

Oops.

Please tell me there’s a serious opponent for Governor Wanker in the fall.

60 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 9:54:02pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Peter LaBarbera strikes me as one of those anti gay rights activists that watches a lot of gay porno, I mean petabytes of the stuff. He probably dreams about vast acres of turgid, old growth forests stands where proud majestic penises gently slap him in the face.

For some reason you reminded me of this.

61 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 9:54:35pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Please tell me there’s a serious opponent for Governor Wanker in the fall.

Yes, Mary Burke. One who’s doing well in the polls.

62 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 9:55:32pm

re: #61 WhatEVs

Yes, Mary Burke. One who’s doing well in the polls.

Good deal. Hope she wins.

63 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 9:56:15pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Please tell me there’s a serious opponent for Governor Wanker in the fall.

Mary Burke (sp?) is in a dead heat at the moment but numbnuts still does better upstate where there are more true believers in the FOX lies.

64 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 9:57:32pm

re: #63 William Barnett-Lewis

Mary Burke (sp?) is in a dead heat at the moment but numbnuts still does better upstate where there are more true believers in the FOX lies.

Have no doubt that it’s going to be close since Wanker seems to have inspired a lot of devoted supporters. Hope you guys beat the guy and then in a couple years remove the nut that beat Feingold. Wisconsin has a fine tradition of progressivism going way back.

65 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 9:58:01pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I’ve felt the same way about Bryan Fischer myself Frank. A lot of obsession with what other adults do in the privacy of their own homes just isn’t normal and that’s pretty much the tale about pretty much all these RR bigots.

I think the same about people focused on sex in general. Women are all sluts…to guys who are so inept or offensive, women won’t give them the time if day.

It’s like “I’m not doing it so you shouldn’t either.”

This applies to a lot if things. Envy/jealousy are ugly emotions.

66 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:01:01pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Good deal. Hope she wins.

It’s ironically funny. Her dad created a bicycle business (Trek) which employs 1000+ people in WI, and Walker is giving her grief for manufacturing in China, trying to sully Trek, which is not going over well with proud Wisconsinites who love tat Trek is from their state. She’s started and sold businesses; exactly what everyone says they want. Except for the D after her name.

67 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:01:28pm

re: #65 WhatEVs

I think the same about people focused on sex in general. Women are all sluts…to guys who are so inept or offensive, women won’t give them the time if day.

It’s like “I’m not doing it so you shouldn’t either.”

This applies to a lot if things. Envy/jealousy are ugly emotions.

You know, I’ve always felt that was Rush’s beef with feminists that some good looking feminists gave him the shaft back tin the day and he’s all in rage about it. Most conservative talk show hosts, pundits, and politicians just don’t seem like happy and well adjusted people.

68 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:02:04pm

re: #66 WhatEVs

It’s ironically funny. Her dad created a bicycle business (Trek) which employs 1000+ people in WI, and Walker is giving her grief for manufacturing in China, trying to sully Trek, which is not going over well with proud Wisconsinites who love tat Trek is from their state. She’s started and sold businesses; exactly what everyone says they want. Except for the D after her name.

I know Trek. Good bikes as I recall.

69 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:02:27pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

Have no doubt that it’s going to be close since Wanker seems to have inspired a lot of devoted supporters. Hope you guys beat the guy and then in a couple years remove the nut that beat Feingold. Wisconsin has a fine tradition of progressivism going way back.

Ron Johnson is an embarrassment. If it weren’t for all the stupid in the GOP these days, he’d be hovering at the top of the pack.

70 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:03:13pm

Pretty boring election year here in Va. Mark Warner going up Ed Gillespie. Forget his exact role with the GOP during the Bush years but Warner is popular here and Gillespie is running away from his association with Bush.

71 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:04:35pm

Every day that Terry McAuliffe doesn’t turn this state into a theocratic nightmare, the more I am glad that Ken Cuccinelli is unemployed. I still don’t like Terry but he had the one thing going for him that Cuccinelli never will and it’s that he’s a resident of the Milky Way Galaxy.

72 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:09:16pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I find it amazing that Mitch Daniels (IN) was able to get elected Gov in Indiana. He was W Bush’s director at OMB. I MEAN…seriously?

I almost wrote McDaniels. Anyone know the status of MS now with teabagger vs undeclared teabagger down there? He was going to file a lawsuit or something.

73 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Aug 28, 2014 10:10:33pm

Just peeking in to say hello to everyone. been busy busy with school, but I’ve been reading LGF a little more lately, just not in the mood to post. But I’m still around, lurking. :D

74 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:11:11pm

re: #73 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

Hiya!

75 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:11:17pm

re: #72 WhatEVs

I find it amazing that Mitch Daniels (IN) was able to get elected Gov in Indiana. He was W Bush’s director at OMB. I MEAN…seriously?

I almost wrote McDaniels. Anyone know the status of MS now with teabagger vs undeclared teabagger down there? He was going to file a lawsuit or something.

I dunno Indiana is pretty Republican to the point that that the Edwin Edwards adage about the live boy and dead girl almost applies. I exagerraet some given that Obama did win it in 2008 but it’s a very Republican state.

76 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:12:14pm

Have to say after looking at my brother’s facebook photos for his b-day party with his wife, daughter, and in-laws, I want Peruvian in-laws too! Always a party.

77 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:12:38pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

I dunno Indiana is pretty Republican to the point that that the Edwin Edwards adage about the live boy and dead girl almost applies. I exagerraet some given that Obama did win it in 2008 but it’s a very Republican state.

Unfortunately that applies in a lot of races no matter the party.

78 dog philosopher  Aug 28, 2014 10:12:39pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

who told obama to wear that suit for today’s speech? ugh

hmm i thought it was a pretty stylish suit

79 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:13:57pm

re: #77 WhatEVs

Unfortunately that applies in a lot of races no matter the party.

Yeah I hate that even when it comes to Democrats.

80 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:14:08pm

re: #78 dog philosopher

hmm i thought it was a pretty stylish suit

Inorite!

81 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:16:40pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Yeah I hate that even when it comes to Democrats.

Agreed. At least we sometimes call our own to the carpet.

82 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:19:54pm

re: #81 WhatEVs

Agreed. At least we sometimes call our own to the carpet.

Yeah, and with that I have to say I really wish we had more parties. I don’t dislike the Dems but I sure as hell wouldn’t mind more choices. Here’s what annoys me about the Libertarians aside from their wacked out views on economics though. They whine about not being taken seriously enough and then they don’t nominate people for all offices. I’ll use VA’s gubertorial election here as an example and I will concede here that I actually liked the guy they nominated for governor since he actually was pro-choice, not xenophobic on immigration, and actually is pro-gay marriage but they did not bother even nominating people for Lt Governor and AG. If you want people to take you seriously as a third party. Just a rant I guess since I know too many pissy Libertarians who bemoan the two party system yet never chastise the LP for not doing anything that an organized party should do.

83 freetoken  Aug 28, 2014 10:22:35pm

Tan is ok for a suit color, but IMO really needs to be paired well with accessories to look classy.

Now, that’s for the standard 2-piece business suit - if all one wants is a sports jacket then a tannish color jacket work fine with blue jeans, etc.

I do fault the President’s choice of tie style, though. White shirt was a good move (definitely not a blue shirt).

It would have been interesting to see a white tie with that combo. Not solid white, but white with either blue or brown highlights. It used to be difficult to find a good nearly-all-but-not-quite-all white tie, almost impossible really.

Perhaps it’s just me, but I’d be quite fine with Presidents having their own fashion mavens. Not on the government dole, but as any other merchant/company from which they buy.

84 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:23:43pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

There are times I’m on board with the parliamentary system. You win, do whatever you’re going to do and then own the results for good or bad. Fuck up too badly and a new election is called.

85 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:24:32pm

re: #84 WhatEVs

There are times I’m on board with the parliamentary system. You win, do whatever you’re going to do and then own the results for good or bad. Fuck up too badly and a new election is called.

It’s tempting for sure with how frequently incumbents get re-elected even wit h Congress at all time historical lows.

86 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:25:55pm

re: #83 freetoken

I guess I’m new-fashioned. I could care less what the POTUS wears. Screaming about a TSN suit is ludicrous to me. (Not directing that to you…just saying.)

87 freetoken  Aug 28, 2014 10:30:58pm

Perhaps more important about Obama’s dress, though, is not as a fashion statement but an indication of what is going on under the hood.

I’m not talking today’s tan suit, but the entire past 6 years.

President Obama has always dressed well but he also dresses very conservatively.

Very, conservatively.

I dislike the standard suit for its very symbolism - a type of conformist uniform. Even in the old days when I used to have to give presentations to wigs of bigness I’d put together a matching coat and pants selection of a slightly more individualistic nature.

But, President Obama has clearly worked hard at fitting in to the very conservative centers-of-power mindset. He does not dress Hollywood. He does not dress Paris or Florence or even Rio.

President Obama dresses Power DC. It’s his choice, It may be conscious or subconscious, but it tells me that he feels a strong need to conform.

What I’ve seen of him as President the past 6 years tells me the same. He has been far from the radical that the hate-right likes to portray him.

Obama has been the most unwilling-to-rock-the-boat “liberal” politician that I can think of off the top of my head.

Other so-called “liberal” political figures in my lifetime have been far more daring and willing to stir things up.

88 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 28, 2014 10:38:07pm

re: #87 freetoken

Best Republican president since Ike…

89 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:39:18pm

re: #87 freetoken

I saw a pic of Reagan in a tan suit walking with Pope Paul (whatever number) earlier today. Tan isn’t horribly trendy.

And I struggle calling Obama a liberal. He’s a Dem, but I wouldn’t call most of his policies for his time in office liberal at all. He’s a moderate. What used to be what we’d call a sane, left leaning republican.

90 wrenchwench  Aug 28, 2014 10:40:47pm

re: #87 freetoken

Perhaps more important about Obama’s dress, though, is not as a fashion statement but an indication of what is going on under the hood.

[…]

Other so-called “liberal” political figures in my lifetime have been far more daring and willing to stir things up.

Youtube Video

91 HappyWarrior  Aug 28, 2014 10:42:08pm

re: #89 WhatEVs

I saw a pic of Reagan in a tan suit walking with Pope Paul (whatever number) earlier today. Tan isn’t horribly trendy.

And I struggle calling Obama a liberal. He’s a Dem, but I wouldn’t call most of his policies for his time in office liberal at all. He’s a moderate. What used to be what we’d call a sane, left leaning republican.

Obama frankly is more closer to Ike/Ford than he is JFK/LBJ but the same can be said of Clinton too. Anyone who sees Obama as this radical out to radically alter America is just an idiot who buys wingnut bs about this president. He’s a pragmatic moderate.

92 goddamnedfrank  Aug 28, 2014 10:42:44pm

Jesus Christ but peeps be stupid.

93 Mattand  Aug 28, 2014 10:42:54pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Another new follower tonight: @christinakb

She seems stupid.

Out of curiosity, what was the magic hashtag that the Tea Baggers thought would protect from ever having their Twitters suspended? Was it “gulag” or “tcot” or something?

94 Kragar  Aug 28, 2014 10:43:38pm

re: #93 Mattand

She seems stupid.

Out of curiosity, what was the magic hashtag that the Tea Baggers thought would protect from ever has their Twitters suspended? Was it “gulag” or “tcot” or something?

tgdn

Twitter
Gulag
Defense
Network

95 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:44:21pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

But, but…ORBITAL FRACTURE! FTW!!

96 Mattand  Aug 28, 2014 10:44:46pm

re: #94 Kragar

tgdn

Twitter
Gulag
Defense
Network

Thanks. Looking at that moron’s account with “tcot” in the description made me think of that.

Funny how you don’t see them use that anymore.

97 WhatEVs  Aug 28, 2014 10:47:00pm

re: #93 Mattand

I think #TwitterGulag which almost always goes with #tcot and #lnyhbt or some shit.

Professionsl conservative victimhood is always in fashion.

98 sagehen  Aug 28, 2014 10:53:15pm

re: #72 WhatEVs

I find it amazing that Mitch Daniels (IN) was able to get elected Gov in Indiana. He was W Bush’s director at OMB. I MEAN…seriously?

I almost wrote McDaniels. Anyone know the status of MS now with teabagger vs undeclared teabagger down there? He was going to file a lawsuit or something.

Speaking of white privilege:

When Mitch Daniels was a junior in college,

Officers found enough marijuana in his room to fill two size 12 shoe boxes, reports of the incident say. He and the other inhabitants of the room were also charged with possession of LSD and prescription drugs without a prescription. Daniels and his two roommates in 111 Cuyler Hall, Marc Stuart ‘71 and Richard Stockton ‘71, were arrested and, after plea bargaining, Daniels eventually escaped with a $350 fine for “maintaining a common nuisance.”

Read more: reason.com

99 BeachDem  Aug 28, 2014 11:01:27pm

re: #93 Mattand

Glad I’m still up to help out here—it was TGDN—which stands for Twitter Gulag Defense Network (no, I am NOT kidding.)

I believe it was Twitchy and Todd Kincannon who got it going, and at one point, Kincannon was trying to raise money to help him “administer” the hashtag. They had a website about all of the indignity they suffered. It was hilarious.

Crap—I see Kragar beat me to it.

100 teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2014 11:04:03pm

It may have been commented on here already, but Crooks And Liars gives LGF some link love in re: Michael Brown’s murder at the hands of Darren Wilson.

101 Kragar  Aug 28, 2014 11:04:23pm

re: #99 BeachDem

Crap—I see Kragar beat me to it.

Youtube Video

102 sagehen  Aug 28, 2014 11:11:49pm

Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt got married.

103 BeachDem  Aug 28, 2014 11:15:47pm

If you want a huge laugh about TGDN, when Todd Kincannon’s efforts to raise funds for administrating the hashtag didn’t work out, he claimed that someone had gone to the Columbia, SC police department to try to have him arrested and that they “swatted” his old office address or something. So he then started begging for donations to his legal defense fund.

(This was the tweet he sent out—I think that account is history now, but the fund-raising site is still up)

Todd Kincannon @ToddKincannon
The Left is trying to have me arrested over#TGDN. I cannot represent myself. Please contribute to #TGDN legal defense: is.gd
11:30 AM - 30 Jan 13

104 teleskiguy  Aug 28, 2014 11:17:56pm

This is the only ALS Ice Bucket Challenge video worth watching.

FunnyOrDie Video

105 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2014 12:20:22am

If I had the time and inclination tonight I would totally make a video with Obama suit clips set to “Sharp Dressed Man”. The RW crowd would just love it. /

106 freetoken  Aug 29, 2014 1:35:44am

MP3 Audio

107 goddamnedfrank  Aug 29, 2014 2:15:36am
He did not have a criminal record as an adult, and his family said he did not have a juvenile record, the Times reports.

Brown’s parents haven’t lied yet as far as we know. CCJ on the other hand has been caught perpetrating several frauds, most recently the Mississippi vote buying hoax he cooked up.

108 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 3:35:24am

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

I wonder how hard it would be to hack a good first person shooter game into a shoot/no shoot simulator. A police training version. A CCW version. A woke up at home to noises from the living room.

There are police trainers out that have light guns, a big screen, etc. that are supposed to make sure that officers undergoing training use the proper procedure before firing. But I would wager that the cost prohibits a lot of departments from implementing it into their training.

109 KiTA  Aug 29, 2014 3:55:14am

Man, this latest Chrome update is pretty awful. It did something to font rendering but as a result it takes up an ungodly amount of CPU when tab changing / closing / opening / etc.

110 freetoken  Aug 29, 2014 3:58:12am

When I came across the following I did a “WTF”, thinking it had to be a spoof site, but, alas, it’s Newsweek:

Israel Has Officially Banned Fluoridation of Its Drinking Water

111 BongCrodny  Aug 29, 2014 4:06:35am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

National Geocentric #RuinAMagazine

Playbro.

112 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 4:07:03am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Obama frankly is more closer to Ike/Ford than he is JFK/LBJ but the same can be said of Clinton too. Anyone who sees Obama as this radical out to radically alter America is just an idiot who buys wingnut bs about this president bumper stickers. He’s a pragmatic moderate.

FTFY.

Good morning!

113 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 4:10:57am

Here’s some Chuck Brown to wake up to:
Youtube Video

114 freetoken  Aug 29, 2014 4:17:47am

Newsweek is doing a real disservice here.

They infer that regular use of fluoride as used for dental purposes has been shown harmful (which it hasn’t). From the Newsweek article:

At high levels, fluoride can cause pitted teeth, bone defects and thyroid problems; a study in the medical journal The Lancet earlier this year labeled fluoride a developmental neurotoxin, due to a link between high levels of exposure and reduced IQ in children, mostly in China. At lows levels, it is thought to help prevent cavities.

Well yes, this Lancet article did include “fluoride” on the list:
thelancet.com

But that paper very clearly footnotes that it was relying on that Chinese study and that is all that was referenced.

Here is the Chinese study in question:
Developmental Fluoride Neurotoxicity: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

They make very clear:

Opportunities for epidemiological studies depend on the existence of comparable population groups exposed to different levels of fluoride from drinking water. Such circumstances are difficult to find in many industrialized countries, because fluoride concentrations in community water are usually no higher than 1 mg/L, even when fluoride is added to water supplies as a public health measure to reduce tooth decay. Multiple epidemiological studies of developmental fluoride neurotoxicity were conducted in China because of the high fluoride concentrations that are substantially above 1 mg/L in well water in many rural communities, although microbiologically safe water has been accessible to many rural households as a result of the recent 5-year plan …

It’s pretty clear that the Chinese study is about local levels of fluoride substantially above what we get in community drinking water here.

Further on down the paper:

…. The exposed groups had access to drinking water with fluoride concentrations up to 11.5 mg/L (Wang SX et al. 2007); thus, in many cases concentrations were above the levels recommended (0.7-1.2 mg/L; DHHS) or allowed in public drinking water (4.0 mg/L; U.S. EPA) in the United States (U.S. EPA 2011). A recent cross-sectional study based on individual-level measure of exposures suggested that low levels of water fluoride (range, 0.24-2.84 mg/L) had significant negative associations with children’s intelligence (Ding et al. 2011). This study was not included in our meta-analysis, which focused only on studies with exposed and reference groups, thereby precluding estimation of dose-related effects.

Again, it’s pretty clear this Chinese study was looking at people exposed to fluoride levels significantly above what we get in drinking water in various Western nations.

This is a classic case of not understanding that the acute and total consumption of a material is what matters, not the mere existence of a substance. Many things we consume would be harmful to us at a high enough dosage. It may very well be the case that high doses of fluoride are neurotoxic, but that does not mean that much smaller doses are harmful.

115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 29, 2014 4:33:55am

Let us raise a generation of children who are susceptible to preventable contagious diseases & dental conditions, unaware of birth control and how science, logic, language, media, elective government and the economy work!!!

116 A Mom Anon  Aug 29, 2014 4:43:57am

The Son and The Husband and I use the Glide app while he’s away at school. If one of us calls the other and there’s no answer, we’ll send a video and chat about whatever. It works really well for us, and I think it helps The Son be less homesick. I even sent him a video of the dog one morning, which he thought was hilarious.

I think I’m well into hatred fatigue right now. Sick of people, sick of their bullshit and REALLY sick of conservatives I know poking at me with a stick, trying to piss me off. Knowing I just lost a good friend and am trying to help his family through their grief as well as practical stuff since he didn’t have a will or life insurance and his teeny estate is about to go into probate. Half a million dollars in hospital bills. For two weeks in ICU, a day in hospice and his bills from the hospital stay before the last one. Half. A. Million. Dollars. His next of kin that would be responsible for this would be his 21 yr old daughter who is in college and working as a waitress to help pay for school. Yeah, that’s a great health care system we have there.

I have no time for hate. I need some snappy comeback to shut these fuckbags up but I’m too worn out to be clever.

117 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 29, 2014 4:50:35am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Of course, then they don’t understand that they’re little more than serfs. Perhaps allowed their small arms to give them the fantasy that they’re freemen but serfs nonetheless.

118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 29, 2014 4:59:28am

re: #117 William Barnett-Lewis

Of course, then they don’t understand that they’re little more than serfs. Perhaps allowed their small arms to give them the fantasy that they’re freemen but serfs nonetheless.

I now understand a bit more about the gun fetish in the USA, it is as much promoted by the apex social predators as it is jealously guarded by the folks on the bottom of foot chain. The best slaves are the ones who put on their chains willingly.

119 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 5:03:13am

Wingnut gun-fucking meme of the day:
HURR HURR LOOK AT THE FINGER PLACEMENT!!!!!
How about “Don’t ever point a gun at something you don’t want to shoot”

120 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 5:05:58am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnut gun-fucking meme of the day:

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SEALs are taught to point their sidearms at friendlies’ heads?

A more accurate demonstration of that family (warning: from Pulp Fiction):
Youtube Video

121 A Mom Anon  Aug 29, 2014 5:07:28am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnut gun-fucking meme of the day:
HURR HURR LOOK AT THE FINGER PLACEMENT!!!!!
How about “Don’t ever point a gun at something you don’t want to shoot”

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Especially YOUR SISTER. If stupid could be converted into clean energy, we could power everything right down to the last Ipod and still have plenty left over right now. It’s fucking creepy, this gun fetish shit. At least be grown up enough to leave your kids out of it.

122 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 5:19:03am

Here’s your DARVO Of The Day courtesy of the Stupidest Woman On Teh Twitters:
“A political agenda that will only benefit the richest of the rich while throwing the poor under the bus”
Does that sound like Obama? Or does it sound like Koch Brothers & their Teaparty tools?

123 A Mom Anon  Aug 29, 2014 5:24:55am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

Oh lordy. Life is so simple when your only job is posting stupid shit on Twitter and Facebook. Shouldn’t she be AT WORK? Since she’s one of the “makers”? You could unpack each one of those statements and show her the actual facts about who she’s defending and she still wouldn’t get it. If she did she’d never admit it. Hate causes brain damage.

124 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 5:27:37am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

Here’s your DARVO Of The Day courtesy of the Stupidest Woman On Teh Twitters:
“A political agenda that will only benefit the richest of the rich while throwing the poor under the bus”
Does that sound like Obama? Or does it sound like Koch Brothers & their Teaparty tools?

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WTF is she even trying to say?

125 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 5:29:00am

Uccccch

126 BadExampleMan  Aug 29, 2014 5:29:03am

re: #72 WhatEVs

I find it amazing that Mitch Daniels (IN) was able to get elected Gov in Indiana. He was W Bush’s director at OMB. I MEAN…seriously?

I almost wrote McDaniels. Anyone know the status of MS now with teabagger vs undeclared teabagger down there? He was going to file a lawsuit or something.

He filed his suit. It’s laughable. The decision on Cochran’s Motion To Dismiss is scheduled for…fuck, for later today - 2 pm Friday.

clarionledger.com

127 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 5:29:56am

Just putting this out there for any of our St. Louis area lizards.

Jim Hoft is the obvious choice and probably the reason that he wanted him to PM him the other night.

128 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 5:30:50am

re: #123 A Mom Anon

Oh lordy. Life is so simple when your only job is posting stupid shit on Twitter and Facebook. Shouldn’t she be AT WORK? Since she’s one of the “makers”? You could unpack each one of those statements and show her the actual facts about who she’s defending and she still wouldn’t get it. If she did she’d never admit it. Hate causes brain damage.

Janie has never had an actual job. I read her profile page. She played tennis at the country club & married a rich guy and stays at home eating bonbons and wiping her ass with Franklins.

Oh and: HE FLIPS HOUSES.

Janie has never created a job except for the maid and the pool boy.

129 Ogami Itto  Aug 29, 2014 5:36:59am

re: #124 Timothy Watson

She’s trying to say, “Ooga Booga! there’s a scary negro in the White House. Ooga Booga!”

130 Varek Raith  Aug 29, 2014 5:40:16am

re: #120 Timothy Watson

Classic.

131 WhatEVs  Aug 29, 2014 5:46:52am

re: #126 BadExampleMan

He filed his suit. It’s laughable. The decision on Cochran’s Motion To Dismiss is scheduled for…fuck, for later today - 2 pm Friday.

clarionledger.com

Awesome sauce! That should be fun!

132 A Mom Anon  Aug 29, 2014 5:47:12am

Alrighty lizards, The Son and I have yard work to tackle before it gets too hot. BBL.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 5:48:01am

Last night I watched that Georgia kid’s “Coming Out” video. Horrific.

In case any of my grandkids come out, I have to be ready with a Rainbow Pie.

134 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 5:50:39am

Random question about twitter. I created a new twitter account since my original account was being followed by friends/family.

When I login to my new account through twitter.com I see friends/family in the right column under “Who to Follow”.

I have “Let others find me by my email address/phone number” disabled, I haven’t imported contacts and I haven’t followed anyone that would be following any of them. I am trying to keep this twitter account as firewalled as possible without locking it down.

Any clues?

135 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 5:54:43am

RuinAMovieWithOneLetter

Just As Racist As The Original
(Not embedded here for a reason)

136 CarolJ  Aug 29, 2014 5:55:09am

re: #125 Pie-onist Overlord
Now thats anti-semitism. Makes you wonder what does violate the Terms of Service.

Could I post something about lynchings? A real murder? A guide to how to rob a bank? What isn’t allowed? Disgusting.

137 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 5:55:17am

Aww, poor widdle wingnut. His feewings got hurt:

TheBlaze’s Buck Sexton Blasts Jon Stewart for ‘Lecturing’ on Racism

The Blaze’s Buck Sexton filled in for Glenn Beck on his radio show today, and he really went after Jon Stewart for his commentary on Ferguson and racial injustice earlier this week. He said Stewart engaged in paternalistic lecturing on behalf of the black community without providing any facts to back him up.

Sexton called Stewart “the most effective mouthpiece of the left” and picked up on one line in particular Stewart used: there are black people in New York City who have a hard time calling a cab. Sexton brought up some statistics to suggest Stewart is vastly overstating this problem.

And beyond that, Sexton said the vast majority of cab drivers aren’t American, so it’s disingenuous for Stewart to say this is an American problem. Sexton also though Stewart was just doing too much talking down to people.

138 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 6:01:34am

LIES! I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN!

/10-year old Lidane

Newsflash: Hello Kitty has never been a cat

Despite 40 years of feline imagery, despite the protestation of thousands of anguished fans, despite her very name — Hello Kitty, it turns out, is not a cat.

She is “a friend.”

A “little girl.”

A “perpetual third-grader” living outside of London with her twin sister and parents, eating apple pie and celebrating a Nov. 1 birthday.

But never — never — an actual cat.

139 Milty  Aug 29, 2014 6:03:00am

Here’s hoping you write about this, too, Charles.

bbc.com

140 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 6:03:03am

re: #138 Lidane

LIES! I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN!

/10-year old Lidane

Newsflash: Hello Kitty has never been a cat

OK I can get that the “cat ears” on top of her head are a hair style.

BUT WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS ON THE SIDES OF HER FACE? RITUAL PIERCINGS?

141 CarolJ  Aug 29, 2014 6:08:14am

re: #139 Milty

Old troll from 2004. Nothing since. Or before.

142 jonhendry  Aug 29, 2014 6:12:57am

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

I wonder how hard it would be to hack a good first person shooter game into a shoot/no shoot simulator. A police training version. A CCW version. A woke up at home to noises from the living room.

It’d be interesting to see how errors correlate to race of the presented individual.

143 Frenchy  Aug 29, 2014 6:16:35am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

I just really have no words for these people. Total lack of self-awareness, hell they are even proud of themselves.

144 CarolJ  Aug 29, 2014 6:18:59am

re: #143 Frenchy

I’d call those people ignorant, but ignorance can be cured. Not so sure about these people.

145 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 6:21:47am

re: #139 Milty

Here’s hoping you write about this, too, Charles.

bbc.com

SATANIC ISLAMIC RITUAL ABUSE!!1!

146 jonhendry  Aug 29, 2014 6:22:08am

re: #84 WhatEVs

There are times I’m on board with the parliamentary system. You win, do whatever you’re going to do and then own the results for good or bad. Fuck up too badly and a new election is called.

Parliamentary systems like England’s that are pretty stable and predictable are okay, but too many of them fall apart at the drop of a hat. Look at how many governments Italy has had.

That level of instability just gives me the willies.

147 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 6:25:50am

This is what passes for intelligent debate on the right these days:

Gutfeld to Colmes: What Does ISIS Have to Do to Get Liberals Outraged?

He asked, “Why is it that lefties like you… have a hard time identifying actual existential evil unless it’s a Republican or a stay-at-home mom?” Gutfeld invoked Obama’s “JV” comment about groups like ISIS to suggest the left by and large just doesn’t take the threat of ISIS seriously.

Colmes argued that ISIS simply isn’t a great, direct threat to the United States yet, and so the threat “is being ginned up” so that the U.S. is forced to get into the middle of another conflict. Gutfeld shot back that just because they’re not meeting the “Colmes level of barbarism” doesn’t mean they’re not a threat.

148 jonhendry  Aug 29, 2014 6:26:22am

BTW, if you want to see a guy who was beaten up and has a fractured eye socket, look here.

149 darthstar  Aug 29, 2014 6:27:14am

re: #143 Frenchy

I just really have no words for these people. Total lack of self-awareness, hell they are even proud of themselves.

In a couple of years those kids will ask, “Why did you let a picture of us be used as an example of fucked-up parenting?”

150 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 6:28:31am

re: #149 darthstar

In a couple of years those kids will ask, “Why did you let a picture of us be used as an example of fucked-up parenting?”

Let’s hope they survive.

151 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 6:31:22am

This article here:

theatlantic.com

Has more details about the St Paul MN man that was tased and arrested while waiting for his kids.

152 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 6:35:10am

re: #146 jonhendry

Israel’s government is also a parliamentary system (Bader Ofer), which means that Israelis have never had a majority party led government. It’s always been a coalition govenrment, which means that a minority party with a couple of seats that joins with a plurality party can control the debate on key issues or else threaten to leave the government.

It’s happened before, and it’s a fate that may befall Netenyahu over his handling of Gaza. Netenyahu and the IDF can claim that they needed to carry on the fight as they did to eliminate the tunnels, but it still exposed that Israel’s policy was essentially to watch Hamas expend their missile inventories to the point where Hamas no longer saw reason to continue. Israel also managed to target and take out key Hamas leaders, which showed that Hamas leadership was not immune to the attacks. But that was at the cost of watching missiles land near Ben Gurion airport (causing some airlines and the FAA to cancel flights - a direct economic harm to Israel that Hamas is sure to repeat), hitting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem neighborhoods and much of Israel’s population resides in that area.

In return for the latest ceasefire, Israel is going to work on loosening the restrictions on fishing and Fatah will be working with the Egyptians on border crossings there.

Mind you, Hamas could have achieved the same result through negotiation, but that simply isn’t the Hamas way. Hamas’ charter calls for Israel’s destruction - a clarion call for genocide, which it has never repealed. Instead, they carried out the latest fruitless conflict with Hamas and Gazans taking the brunt, but because they managed to kill Israeli soldiers, they’ll once again claim victory (combined with the modified control on the borders and port). Gazans have little choice here - Hamas exerts near total control over Gaza with force, and they execute anyone who they suspect of being collaborators with Israel. That includes Fatah. So, what you’re left with is Hamas terrorists, and terrorists who think that Hamas isn’t extreme enough - splinter groups like the PRCs and Islamic Jihad as well as al Qaeda-linked groups. None of those smaller groups have the ability to mount large attacks, but they have just enough capability to fire missiles and mortars into Israel independent of Hamas (and they could easily sweep Hamas into another conflict down the line).

153 Mattand  Aug 29, 2014 6:36:07am

re: #122 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s what cracks me up about the “Obama is a divider” idiots.

Yes, Obama did divide the USA. He had the temerity to be an African-American who got legally elected president twice, and showed how far racial divisions still exist in this country.

154 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 6:37:02am

re: #147 Lidane

This is what passes for intelligent debate on the right these days:

Gutfeld to Colmes: What Does ISIS Have to Do to Get Liberals Outraged?

Do I have to remind Gutfeld that many conservatives were a okay with what the Taliban was doing until 9/11 happened? And his pathetic characterization of liberals finding Republicans and stay at home moms evil is laughable given the constant demonization of liberals that his network does. OTOH, I don’t get why Colmes wastes his time with these morons.

155 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 6:37:21am

re: #153 Mattand

That’s what cracks me up about the “Obama is a divider” idiots.

Yes, Obama did divide the USA. He had the temerity to be an African-American who got legally elected president twice, and showed how far racial divisions still exist in this country.

Yes!

156 darthstar  Aug 29, 2014 6:41:09am

Cliven Bundy’s son pulls his kids from school because they can’t carry weapons. (It’s just over a pocket knife, not a gun) I have carried a knife in my pocket every day since I was 10 years old. So I understand why he’s pissed…but rules are rules.

alan.com

157 darthstar  Aug 29, 2014 6:43:02am
158 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 6:43:17am

Hmm…

(darth get out of my head, you did this to me yesterday too!)

159 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 6:44:59am

Seems legit… ///

160 Frenchy  Aug 29, 2014 6:46:59am

re: #147 Lidane

How does one even attempt to engage someone like this in conversation?

161 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 6:50:43am

re: #147 Lidane

This is what passes for intelligent debate on the right these days:

Gutfeld to Colmes: What Does ISIS Have to Do to Get Liberals Outraged?

They let Gutfeld do a real show?

I used to watch his late-night program, Red Eye via DVR, and it was pretty funny, especially since they had Marc Lamont Hill on there every other day and he was a trip to watch and managed to have fun with pretty much everyone else (even Ann Coulter actually).

But what the frak is he doing on O’Reilly, making O’Reilly look smart?

162 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 6:53:15am

re: #160 Frenchy

How does one even attempt to engage someone like this in conversation?

The Jonah Jameson laugh works.

163 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 6:55:21am
164 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 6:59:16am

STRATEGERY!

Rep. Gohmert Has a ‘Strategy’ for Obama: Declare ‘War Against Radical Islam’

If President Barack Obama is looking for a “strategy” to combat ISIS, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) has one he would like to suggest. Appearing on Fox News’ Your World with Neil Cavuto shortly after the president made his statement from the White House press room, Gohmert said he and many other members of Congress would eagerly approve a “declaration of war against radical Islam.”

165 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 7:00:02am

Geez…and I thought the picture on the right was bad yesterday. Now I’m kinda gobsmacked by the one on the left. I don’t think his CCW permit is supposed to cover behavior like this in public.

166 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:01:46am

re: #165 ausador

Geez…and I thought the picture on the right was bad yesterday. Now I’m kinda gobsmacked by the one on the left. I don’t think his CCW permit is supposed to cover behavior like this in public.

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Idiots just asking for a tragedy to happen. And it’s not cute at all.

167 FemNaziBitch  Aug 29, 2014 7:01:48am

It’s morning.

you?

168 Mike Lamb  Aug 29, 2014 7:03:00am

re: #127 b.d.

Just putting this out there for any of our St. Louis area lizards.

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Jim Hoft is the obvious choice and probably the reason that he wanted him to PM him the other night.

So, I take it his beard isn’t a fashion statement—he’s just waiting for a response to his tweet request for someone to loan him a razor? Does he pay for anything?

169 Frenchy  Aug 29, 2014 7:04:16am

re: #165 ausador

After seeing the pic up there with the three little girls, I almost posted hell why not give a gun to a baby in its crib, but decided I’d rather not give these lunatics any ideas. But of course, somebody’s already done it.

170 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 7:04:59am

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning.

you?

Amused by my job. Working in a call center on the Friday of Labor Day weekend? Yeah, just try getting people on the phone today. Hahahahaha.

At least we have an employee potluck at lunch. My team is paired up with the Microsoft team upstairs. They’re ordering pizza, thank SRV. The rest of us just have to bring sides, desserts, etc. I made two loaves of banana bread last night, but when I went to leave with both this morning, the boyfriend put his foot down. He wanted one for the house. Heh.

171 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 7:05:34am

re: #165 ausador

I wonder just how exactly the guy with the gun on his back and the baby on the front is supposed to get into a proper firing position without hitting the infant.

It’s like a status symbol. Hey look at me, I’ve got a AR-15 or whatever rifle they’re carrying.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn’t mean it’s a smart thing to do.

172 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 7:05:55am

re: #165 ausador

How are you supposed to see something like that and not think that the lunatic is endangering people needlessly?

They say they want people to think “I’m glad these responsible gun owners are around to help keep me safe from crime.” Well guess what guys YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!

173 FemNaziBitch  Aug 29, 2014 7:06:54am

re: #170 Lidane

Amused by my job. Working in a call center on the Friday of Labor Day weekend? Yeah, just try getting people on the phone today. Hahahahaha.

At least we have an employee potluck at lunch. My team is paired up with the Microsoft team upstairs. They’re ordering pizza, thank SRV. The rest of us just have to bring sides, desserts, etc. I made two loaves of banana bread last night, but when I went to leave with both this morning, the boyfriend put his foot down. He wanted one for the house. Heh.

I can’t find my phone.

I can’t think of anything I did to piss-off the FO.

*sigh*

174 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 7:07:21am

re: #153 Mattand

That’s what cracks me up about the “Obama is a divider” idiots.

Yes, Obama did divide the USA. He had the temerity to be an African-American who got legally elected president twice, and showed how far racial divisions still exist in this country.

He didn’t divide anything. He’s scraped off a bit of stucco veneer, showing how badly the stone structure is cracked. Now we can go back to fixing it.

175 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:07:23am

re: #171 lawhawk

I wonder just how exactly the guy with the gun on his back and the baby on the front is supposed to get into a proper firing position without hitting the infant.

It’s like a status symbol. Hey look at me, I’ve got a AR-15 or whatever rifle they’re carrying.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn’t mean it’s a smart thing to do.

Yep, that’s what I was thinking last night. It’s all so very stupid and it’s why they’re called gun fetishists. It’s not even about the gun’s practical use, it’s about how the gun makes them feel. Something I’d be more empathetic to if oh I don’t know it wasn’t a deadly weapon and he didn’t have a child on him.

176 FemNaziBitch  Aug 29, 2014 7:07:24am

Has this made the rounds yet?

Good for a big smile.

177 Romantic Heretic  Aug 29, 2014 7:09:33am

re: #119 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnut gun-fucking meme of the day:
HURR HURR LOOK AT THE FINGER PLACEMENT!!!!!
How about “Don’t ever point a gun at something you don’t want to shoot”

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Is it bad of me that I want to shout, “Boo!” the second I saw that photo?

I’m an awful person.

178 KiTA  Aug 29, 2014 7:10:13am

Oh lordy, I just realized when I get back it’s going to be:

1. Saturday
2. During a huge promotion at work (a Casino)
3. On Labor Day weekend

I think I need a hug.

In other news, apparently the wingnuts are attacking the ALS Ice Bucket challenge, claiming that “only 27% goes to research.” Which is true — but that’s not the only thing that charity does. Only 7% goes to admin and 14% to fundrasing, which is actually really good numbers for a charity.

Infowars is all over it, but reddit’s /r/athiesm traced it back to a bunch of cultists who are upset that the ALS Association supports stem cell research.

Also, holy shit, this chrome update bug is annoying. Basically they broke font rendering so when you open or close a tab with text in it (i.e., all of them) it takes a second or two to update the screen. The beta version of chrome is a bit better but still not great.

179 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 29, 2014 7:11:31am

re: #171 lawhawk

I wonder just how exactly the guy with the gun on his back and the baby on the front is supposed to get into a proper firing position without hitting the infant.

It’s like a status symbol. Hey look at me, I’ve got a AR-15 or whatever rifle they’re carrying.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn’t mean it’s a smart thing to do.

Status: Just because I am effectively enslaved by my job via my debt load and my medical expenses I can still pretend I am freeman by walking around armed like lower class Anglo-Saxons who could carry a seax. They might have technically been free but they were as tied to their manor as the Open Carry Twits are to their jobs.

Combine that with a healthy dose of white privilege and you get a clue about how the .1% keep the Republican voters voting against their self interest.

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 29, 2014 7:13:26am

re: #178 KiTA

Also, holy shit, this chrome update bug is annoying. Basically they broke font rendering so when you open or close a tab with text in it (i.e., all of them) it takes a second or two to update the screen. The beta version of chrome is a bit better but still not great.

Not noticing it on Ubuntu. What build & OS are you seeing this in?

181 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 7:14:27am

re: #179 William Barnett-Lewis

Status: Just because I am effectively enslaved by my job via my debt load and my medical expenses I can still pretend I am freeman by walking around armed like lower class Anglo-Saxons who could carry a seax. They might have technically been free but they were as tied to their manor as the Open Carry Twits are to their jobs.

Combine that with a healthy dose of white privilege and you get a clue about how the .1% keep the Republican voters voting against their self interest.

I hijacked some AFP Twitter memes, fixed them, and released them back into the Twitstream

182 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:14:32am

re: #177 Romantic Heretic

Is it bad of me that I want to shout, “Boo!” the second I saw that photo?

I’m an awful person.

I don’t know but you’re not as awful as those parents are.

183 danarchy  Aug 29, 2014 7:15:01am

re: #150 Pie-onist Overlord

Let’s hope they survive.

Well, that picture is at least 6 years old, I wonder where they are now.

184 sagehen  Aug 29, 2014 7:16:02am

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

Last night I watched that Georgia kid’s “Coming Out” video. Horrific.

In case any of my grandkids come out, I have to be ready with a Rainbow Pie.

But if one of your grandkids were gay he could only get married in a Reform synagogue! The Orthodox rabbi won’t officiate, the cake probably won’t even be kosher…

(on the upside, he’s marrying a nice doctor. A podiatrist.)

185 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 7:18:59am

re: #178 KiTA

Charity Navigator gives ALS Assocation pretty good marks overall. When in doubt with how a charity operates, it’s best to check with CN or other services to see just how much money actually goes to program services and how much is sucked up into operational expenses like administration and fundraising.

And in a broken clock moment, I have to agree with Bill Maher above - for all the focus on ALS and all the money donated, malaria gets a fraction of the attention even though it affects more than 200 million people annually and more than 3 billion people live in areas where malaria is active.

186 FemNaziBitch  Aug 29, 2014 7:19:29am

re: #178 KiTA

Oh lordy, I just realized when I get back it’s going to be:

1. Saturday
2. During a huge promotion at work (a Casino)
3. On Labor Day weekend

I think I need a hug.

In other news, apparently the wingnuts are attacking the ALS Ice Bucket challenge, claiming that “only 27% goes to research.” Which is true — but that’s not the only thing that charity does. Only 7% goes to admin and 14% to fundrasing, which is actually really good numbers for a charity.

Infowars is all over it, but reddit’s /r/athiesm traced it back to a bunch of cultists who are upset that the ALS Association supports stem cell research.

Also, holy shit, this chrome update bug is annoying. Basically they broke font rendering so when you open or close a tab with text in it (i.e., all of them) it takes a second or two to update the screen. The beta version of chrome is a bit better but still not great.

(((((Kita)))))

187 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 7:20:22am

re: #165 ausador

Geez…and I thought the picture on the right was bad yesterday. Now I’m kinda gobsmacked by the one on the left. I don’t think his CCW permit is supposed to cover behavior like this in public.

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The expression on the guy in the background in the left picture is classic.

188 FemNaziBitch  Aug 29, 2014 7:21:36am

There is not enough coffee —I’m going back to bed.

bbl

189 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 7:21:53am

They ARE protesting you dumbshit, you’re just not paying attention TO YOUR OWN FELLOW WINGNUTS OVER AT IJREVIEW

190 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 7:23:43am

Really @Charles_Gaba, retweeting @NolteNC??

191 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 7:23:49am

Stopped clock, blind squirrel, etc. —

Homeschooling Leader Distances Himself From ‘Dangerous’ Christian Patriarchy Movement Promoted By Duggars

In a newsletter article released today, Farris slams Phillips and Gothard’s Christian patriarchy (or “Quiverfull”) ideology, and also faults them for harming the image of the conservative homeschooling movement, writing, “if officials believe that the homeschooling movement promotes teachers and ideas that inherently treat women as second-class citizens or result in physical or sexual abuse of children, then we can expect that homeschooling freedom will be negatively impacted.”

192 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 7:24:07am

re: #178 KiTA

Latest version of Firefox is more of a chrome knock-off in appearance and function, but they screwed something up there too. It utilizes huge amounts of memory when displaying pages with multiple video content now. It didn’t do that before, at least not to this extant… :(

193 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 7:24:19am

Sen. Gillibrand (D-NY) set off a controversy by noting the sexism and sexual harassment she endured in the US Senate by her colleagues. She hasn’t gone and named them, and I get why she wouldn’t - she’s got to work with these people and it might undermine her ability to get things done during the duration of her term, but there needs to be repercussions to those engaging in this misconduct.

If it can happen in the halls of Congress, you can be sure it’s happening everywhere else.

194 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:24:30am

re: #189 Pie-onist Overlord

They ARE protesting you dumbshit, you’re just not paying attention TO YOUR OWN FELLOW WINGNUTS OVER AT IJREVIEW

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Do Christians have to prove that Christian Identity nuts aren’t representative of their religion with massive protests too? Really, this shitty double standard (and good for these people protesting ISIS btw) placed on Muslims by the right is just pathetic.

195 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 7:28:35am

re: #193 lawhawk

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Sen. Gillibrand (D-NY) set off a controversy by noting the sexism and sexual harassment she endured in the US Senate by her colleagues. She hasn’t gone and named them, and I get why she wouldn’t - she’s got to work with these people and it might undermine her ability to get things done during the duration of her term, but there needs to be repercussions to those engaging in this misconduct.

If it can happen in the halls of Congress, you can be sure it’s happening everywhere else.

Hey—It’s the Senate. If he didn’t club her unconscious with a walking stick, we’re making progress.

196 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:28:48am

re: #191 Lidane

Stopped clock, blind squirrel, etc. —

Homeschooling Leader Distances Himself From ‘Dangerous’ Christian Patriarchy Movement Promoted By Duggars

I do wonder what prompted him to say this though. Not like the patriarchy is anything new. But yeah indeed blind squirrel moment for Farris.

197 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:29:27am

re: #193 lawhawk

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Sen. Gillibrand (D-NY) set off a controversy by noting the sexism and sexual harassment she endured in the US Senate by her colleagues. She hasn’t gone and named them, and I get why she wouldn’t - she’s got to work with these people and it might undermine her ability to get things done during the duration of her term, but there needs to be repercussions to those engaging in this misconduct.

If it can happen in the halls of Congress, you can be sure it’s happening everywhere else.

I remember the interestingly named Bob Packwood.

198 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 7:30:04am

re: #190 Franklin

Really @Charles_Gaba, retweeting @NolteNC??

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Nolte humor level down to popsicle stick level.

199 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 7:32:39am

*flips every cubicle in the building, nukes them from orbit*

Gina Miller: We’ll End Rape Culture When Women Stop Dressing Like Strumpets, Prostitutes, And Porn Stars

Pro tip: Rape culture also exists in countries where women are covered from head to toe, too.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

200 Mattand  Aug 29, 2014 7:36:55am

re: #193 lawhawk

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Sen. Gillibrand (D-NY) set off a controversy by noting the sexism and sexual harassment she endured in the US Senate by her colleagues. She hasn’t gone and named them, and I get why she wouldn’t - she’s got to work with these people and it might undermine her ability to get things done during the duration of her term, but there needs to be repercussions to those engaging in this misconduct.

If it can happen in the halls of Congress, you can be sure it’s happening everywhere else.

I get Gillibrand’s stance. I’m in the “Name those effing a-holes and publicly shame them” camp, but I don’t have to live with the career fallout.

In a similar vein, a few tech sites over the last week have run stories on the rampant sexism/chauvinism in video game culture, to depressingly predictable results. The sheer pettiness and defensiveness of these morons in the comment sections is up there with the dopes at Free Republic, Gateway Pundit, et. al.

Which leads me to my last anecdote. One of our friends’ oldest daughter just started college this week, and was looking for advice to pass on. One of the first ones was don’t ever let your cup out of your sight at a party, for fear of have some kind of drug dropped in there (the implication being one of the date rape kind).

When I pointed out how depressing that was, someone else offered the idea we need to train college-age guys not to entertain the idea in the first place.

Let those last two pieces of advice sink in for a minute. “Ladies, college can be a dangerous place for women, so never let your guard down”; and “Guys, you know date rape is wrong, don’t you?”

Oy.

201 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 7:37:22am

re: #199 Lidane

*flips every cubicle in the building, nukes them from orbit*

Gina Miller: We’ll End Rape Culture When Women Stop Dressing Like Strumpets, Prostitutes, And Porn Stars

Pro tip: Rape culture exists in cultures where women are covered from head to toe, too.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

202 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Aug 29, 2014 7:39:08am

re: #199 Lidane

This is reason number 5,462,318 why we can’t have nice things.

203 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 7:42:14am

re: #200 Mattand

Which leads me to my last anecdote. One of our friends’ oldest daughter just started college this week, and was looking for advice to pass on. One of the first ones was don’t ever let your cup out of your sight at a party, for fear of have some kind of drug dropped in there (the implication being one of the date rape kind).

When I pointed out how depressing that was, someone else offered the idea we need to train college-age guys not to entertain the idea in the first place.

Let those last two pieces of advice sink in for a minute. “Ladies, college can be a dangerous place for women, so never let your guard down”; and “Guys, you know date rape is wrong, don’t you?”

I’ve read a few articles this past week about the new “Date Rape Drug Detector Nail Polish” and how the rape awareness activists are not impressed with it, since it puts the onus back on the victim.

But more than that, this touted “miracle nail polish” doesn’t even work! because there are so many different drugs being used, which have chemical signatures that are similar to other liquids (like milk) and also, the MOST COMMON DATE RAPE DRUG is just plain old alcohol, combined with some social engineering.

CARRYING A GUN AROUND WILL NOT PREVENT RAPE no matter how many memes of hot white girls aiming guns the gun-fuckers post on Twitter.

204 nsmith25  Aug 29, 2014 7:43:03am
205 Mattand  Aug 29, 2014 7:46:27am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d heard about the nail polish but hadn’t read any stories. My gut reaction was “This probably doesn’t work the way the headlines present it.” Thanks for confirming that.

And, yeah, spot on about putting the burden of rape prevention on women; aka “Blame the victim. Yet again.”

206 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 7:55:34am

re: #200 Mattand

In a similar vein, a few tech sites over the last week have run stories on the rampant sexism/chauvinism in video game culture, to depressingly predictable results. The sheer pettiness and defensiveness of these morons is up there with the dopes at Free Republic, Gateway Pundit, et. al.

One of my FB friends has worked in the gaming industry for a long time. She’s a hardcore gamer and nerd. Her entire FB feed is filled with her preparing to run an RPG campaign at a con, beer, her latest springerle recipe, or whatever her latest games night obsession is. Right now, she’s setting up to work at PAX and she’s also on the organizing committee for a different con altogether.

As long as I’ve known her she’s been a tireless advocate for inclusive gaming and for women gamers pushing back against the sexist bullshit in gaming. It’s really depressing sometimes to see all the stuff she chronicles.

Which leads me to my last anecdote. One of our friends’ oldest daughter just started college this week, and was looking for advice to pass on. One of the first ones was don’t ever let your cup out of your sight at a party, for fear of have some kind of drug dropped in there (the implication being one of the date rape kind).

When I pointed out how depressing that was, someone else offered the idea we need to train college-age guys not to entertain the idea in the first place.

Let those last two pieces of advice sink in for a minute. “Ladies, college can be a dangerous place for women, so never let your guard down”; and “Guys, you know date rape is wrong, don’t you?”

There’s a nail polish that’s been developed to test drinks for date rape drugs. Talk about depressing as shit. As one of my grad school friends pointed out, a woman shouldn’t have to dip her fingers in her drinks when she goes out at night or automatically assume that all the men around her are out to rape her.

207 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:01:15am

Morning Lizardim. How go things? Have we had any more troll incursions since last we spoke?

208 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:02:19am

re: #206 Lidane

There’s a nail polish that’s been developed to test drinks for date rape drugs. Talk about depressing as shit. As one of my grad school friends pointed out, a woman shouldn’t have to dip her fingers in her drinks when she goes out at night or automatically assume that all the men around her are out to rape her.

I can’t even tell you how many dumbshits on Twitter have tried to “gunsplain” that no rapist will dare to approach a gal who’s packin’ at a party “they will move on to an easier victim.”

Never mind that it’s easy as shit to social engineer a gun packin’ gal into giving up her weapon and use it against her.

209 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:03:51am

re: #199 Lidane

*flips every cubicle in the building, nukes them from orbit*

Gina Miller: We’ll End Rape Culture When Women Stop Dressing Like Strumpets, Prostitutes, And Porn Stars

Pro tip: Rape culture also exists in countries where women are covered from head to toe, too.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Men rape because some men are assholes who are taught to expect sex as a reward. It has nothing whatsoever to do with who is dressing in what clothes.

210 klys  Aug 29, 2014 8:03:56am

Who invented this hour of the morning and where can I file a complaint? Ugh.

211 Frenchy  Aug 29, 2014 8:04:02am

re: #208 Pie-onist Overlord

For an alarming number of people, there is no problem for which “more guns” is not the solution.

212 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 8:04:19am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve read a few articles this past week about the new “Date Rape Drug Detector Nail Polish” and how the rape awareness activists are not impressed with it, since it puts the onus back on the victim.

But more than that, this touted “miracle nail polish” doesn’t even work! because there are so many different drugs being used…

Besides, they already sell drink straws that do the same thing without you having to hold your finger in your drink. (No, they aren’t very reliable either)

213 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 8:05:18am

re: #210 klys

Who invented this hour of the morning and where can I file a complaint? Ugh.

You can send your complaints to The Almighty, but he’s been slacking on the job for the last few thousand years, so you won’t get any feedback.

214 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 8:05:18am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #205 Mattand

I’d heard about the nail polish but hadn’t read any stories. My gut reaction was “This probably doesn’t work the way the headlines present it.” Thanks for confirming that.

And, yeah, spot on about putting the burden of rape prevention on women; aka “Blame the victim. Yet again.”

re: #206 Lidane

OTOH, we need to maintain a distinction between ‘blaming the victim’ and teaching people to survive in existing real-world environments that will not be changed in their generation.

I was sent TDY to NYC in the ‘bad’ years, on tasks that would involve in-city travel at all hours. One of my team had a Mr T-quality gold fetish.
She had every right to wear a pound or so of chains on the IRT platform, and it was very, very, wrong of me to tell her to put that shit in her roll-on bag. We had tasks to perform, and they weren’t going to be advanced by time lost to hospitals or police stations.

When all the lions have been taught to be vegetarians, the antelope parents can send their yearlings to the waterhole at will.

215 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:05:22am

re: #211 Frenchy

For an alarming number of people, there is no problem for which “more guns” is not the solution.

Never enuff dakka.

216 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 8:05:42am

Well, the obvious answer to this is…

Ex-College President: Women Should Drink Less To Stop Men Who ‘Misbehave’

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217 klys  Aug 29, 2014 8:08:43am

re: #213 Lidane

You can send your complaints to The Almighty, but he’s been slacking on the job for the last few thousand years, so you won’t get any feedback.

A dose of caffeine has been applied. A second is prepped. But ugh. Hopefully I can just fall asleep in the comfy chair in his office.

218 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:11:18am

re: #217 klys

A dose of caffeine has been applied. A second is prepped. But ugh. Hopefully I can just fall asleep in the comfy chair in his office.

The weekend is coming! The weekend is coming!

219 KiTA  Aug 29, 2014 8:13:30am

dailykos.com

They’re suing the Ferguson PD. 41.5 million bucks. And they’ll get every single penny.

220 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 8:13:56am

re: #216 Franklin

Well, the obvious answer to this is…

Ex-College President: Women Should Drink Less To Stop Men Who ‘Misbehave’

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On a related note:

Gov. Corbett: Reform Liquor Laws So It’s Easier For Women To Make Dinner

“I think a lot of people want to be able to walk into a grocery store,” Corbett said. “Particularly, a lot of the women, want to be able to go in and buy a bottle of wine for dinner, go down buy a six pack or two six packs, buy dinner, and go home. Rather than what I just described, is at least three stops, in Pennsylvania.”

221 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 8:16:08am

re: #220 Lidane

On a related note:

Gov. Corbett: Reform Liquor Laws So It’s Easier For Women To Make Dinner

I don’t understand what goes through these guys heads. He is making a valid point, that the person who is buying the groceries should be able to buy bottle of wine at the same time. In my house, 50% of the time, that would be me. Why does he fall back on gender roles to make a valid point. (rhetorical question).

222 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 8:16:58am

Donations care of the Franklin County Sheriff’s office.

Well, can’t say I’m surprised. The original GoFundMe and successor effort was run by law enforcement officers, and those who were favorable to the police (including a state rep whose father was killed in line of duty).

223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Aug 29, 2014 8:17:33am

Happy Friday fellow lizards!

224 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 8:17:49am

re: #221 Franklin

I don’t understand what goes through these guys heads. He is making a valid point, that the person who is buying the groceries should be able to buy bottle of wine at the same time. In my house, 50% of the time, that would be me. Why does he fall back on gender roles to make a valid point. (rhetorical question).

Exactly. His point is valid, since nobody should have to make three stops to buy everything they need for a single meal, but he defaults to the little wifey buying everything to make dinner. That’s a problem.

225 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:18:32am

re: #221 Franklin

I don’t understand what goes through these guys heads. He is making a valid point, that the person who is buying the groceries should be able to buy bottle of wine at the same time. In my house, 50% of the time, that would be me. Why does he fall back on gender roles to make a valid point. (rhetorical question).

Because get in the kitchen and make me a sammich, b——

226 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:20:31am

re: #222 lawhawk

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Donations care of the Franklin County Sheriff’s office.

Well, can’t say I’m surprised. The original GoFundMe and successor effort was run by law enforcement officers, and those who were favorable to the police (including a state rep whose father was killed in line of duty).

I get being sympathetic to police (in general, in the aggregate). I DON’T get being sympathetic to a racist shithead who executed a kid for the heinous crime of walking while black.

227 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 8:20:39am
228 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 8:20:41am

Ben Carson: No, I’m Not Sorry I Compared U.S. To Nazi Germany

Conservative Ben Carson isn’t backing down from his previous statements likening progressives and Obama supporters to Nazi sympathizers.

The topic was broached and reported on in a profile of Carson in The Washington Post.

“You can’t dance around it,” Carson told The Washington Post’s Ben Terris. “If people look at what I said and were not political about it, they’d have to agree. Most people in Germany didn’t agree with what Hitler was doing…Exactly the same thing can happen in this country if we are not willing to stand up for what we believe in.”

229 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:21:51am
230 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 8:22:52am

re: #228 Lidane

The “same thing” could happen anywhere (and effectively has, in some other dictatorships that we won’t name because they make Mr. Carson’s case look bad). Why pick the United States? Oh, right, black President, I forgot.

231 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:23:13am

re: #228 Lidane

Ben Carson: No, I’m Not Sorry I Compared U.S. To Nazi Germany

Did Ben Carson’s free eyeglasses come off the face of a dead Jew? No? Then STFU.

232 calochortus  Aug 29, 2014 8:23:33am

re: #220 Lidane

Having lived in PA some years ago, I’d guess he’s trying to make buying “demon rum” into a non-threatening, family friendly activity. Women (not drunken louts or crazed teenagers) buying a bottle of wine or a six-pack of beer while buying wholesome food to take home to the family featured in a Norman Rockwell painting.

PA has state stores and is deeply schizophrenic about alcohol sales.

233 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:26:20am

re: #228 Lidane

Ben Carson: No, I’m Not Sorry I Compared U.S. To Nazi Germany

And I am not sorry here when I call Carson a pathetic right wing hack who is desperate to be loved by RWNJs.

234 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:27:56am

re: #230 thedopefishlives

The “same thing” could happen anywhere (and effectively has, in some other dictatorships that we won’t name because they make Mr. Carson’s case look bad). Why pick the United States? Oh, right, black President, I forgot.

To be fair, Carson is black himself so it’s not black president really with him. It’s more “I’m desperate for wingnut voters to love me so I’m going to say the most outrageous crap” I can. And Dr. Carson, if the U.S was truly like Nazi Germany as you want to claim, you would already be imprisoned so please STFU and go back to neurosurgery and stay the fuck out of politics.

235 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 8:28:41am

re: #232 calochortus

Having lived in PA some years ago, I’d guess he’s trying to make buying “demon rum” into a non-threatening, family friendly activity. Women (not drunken louts or crazed teenagers) buying a bottle of wine or a six-pack of beer while buying wholesome food to take home to the family featured in a Norman Rockwell painting.

PA has state stores and is deeply schizophrenic about alcohol sales.

We even gave up ABC stores here in Alabama over the last ten years or so. I can buy a bottle of wine in my town almost any hour of the week.

I do remember the Pittsburgh neighborhood ‘beer distributors’ fondly.

236 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 29, 2014 8:30:13am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

And I am not sorry here when I call Carson a pathetic right wing hack who is desperate to be loved by RWNJs.

Idiot Savant. He’s a good surgeon from what I hear but an idiot about everything else.

237 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 8:30:26am

@ BeachDem asked yesterday if there was an address for @HealSTL …

238 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 8:31:22am

re: #149 darthstar

In a couple of years those kids will ask, “Why did you let a picture of us be used as an example of fucked-up parenting?”

Or, they will grow up bitter as taught at home and then they too will take to twitter and continue with the gun memes and hate.

/

239 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 8:31:28am

Stopped clock, blind squirrel, House GOP edition —

House GOPer: Obama ‘Commendably Cautious’ On Military Action In Syria

“I think our main goal is ISIL. I don’t know that we have a, quote, ‘responsibility’ in Syria after that. And I think the president is being commendably cautious about being involved in the middle of a Syrian civil war,” Oklahoma Rep. Tom Cole, who has served as a deputy majority whip, said Friday morning on MSNBC.

Cole, an ally of Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), made the comments after Obama faced strong criticism for telling reporters on Thursday, “We don’t have a strategy yet,” to deal with ISIL, the Islamic militant group which brutally executed an American photojournalist recently, in Syria.

Cole warned Obama not to engage in “extensive military action” without the consent of Congress, saying, “Congress has to be absolutely central.”

240 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:32:21am

re: #236 William Barnett-Lewis

Idiot Savant. He’s a good surgeon from what I hear but an idiot about everything else.

241 KiTA  Aug 29, 2014 8:33:07am

re: #236 William Barnett-Lewis

You know, that’s a good point. He very well may have autism of some kind, perhaps Asperger’s syndrome. That would explain a lot.

242 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 8:34:01am

re: #210 klys

Who invented this hour of the morning and where can I file a complaint? Ugh.

Klys,

I caught that bit you posted yesterday about the Chrome “Jittering” flashing LGF Football and other icons that was in response to my earlier posting about the issue with this site.

Thanks for the info. It helped to add to what I had already figured out.

243 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:34:06am

re: #239 Lidane

Stopped clock, blind squirrel, House GOP edition —

House GOPer: Obama ‘Commendably Cautious’ On Military Action In Syria

The usual suspects are going to be pissed at Cole for not spitting in their narrative. Good on him though for not being a hack and using the “We don’t have a strategy” to make a stupid dishonest attack on POTUS like most of them would.

244 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 8:35:54am

re: #236 William Barnett-Lewis

Idiot Savant. He’s a good surgeon from what I hear but an idiot about everything else.

I work with one….he’s a brilliant surgeon that has saved probably thousands of lives over his career, but he’s a shitty scientist and a complete RWNJ loon.

245 calochortus  Aug 29, 2014 8:36:30am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

I remember when the state stores decided to have a sale (a really novel event, ‘cause with no competition you don’t have to worry about prices) for Labor Day weekend. There was outrage! Half because they were encouraging people to buy lots of booze and then hit the roads for the long weekend, and the other half because of the loss of revenue from 15% off.

You could buy beer from “distributors”, but every time the idea of allowing wine sales outside of the state stores came up, or heaven forbid, abolishing the state stores altogether, there was a bunch of hooey about how much everyone loved having to go to a state store for their booze. The clerks union was deeply concerned about old people, in particular, feeling uncomfortable (for some totally unexplained reason) if they couldn’t go to the state store. Funny thing though, the old folks in the liquor stores just over the border in MD didn’t look all that uncomfortable or frightened to me.

246 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 8:37:59am
247 danarchy  Aug 29, 2014 8:39:15am

re: #219 KiTA

dailykos.com

They’re suing the Ferguson PD. 41.5 million bucks. And they’ll get every single penny.

Judging by the City of Ferguson’s budget, it will take them a while to pay that off. I wonder how many extra stops and citations they will have to issue to make up the shortfalls.

Ferguson Budget

248 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:39:36am

re: #241 KiTA

You know, that’s a good point. He very well may have autism of some kind, perhaps Asperger’s syndrome. That would explain a lot.

Asperger’s/HFA isn’t being a savant though. I don’t know what his deal is but I think he’s just a hack really. Herman Cain, apparently a smart enough businessman but like Carson terrible at analyzing politics

249 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 29, 2014 8:42:30am

re: #139 Milty

Here’s hoping you write about this, too, Charles.

bbc.com

Make a page!

250 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 8:43:49am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Asperger’s/HFA isn’t being a savant though. I don’t know what his deal is but I think he’s just a hack really. Herman Cain, apparently a smart enough businessman but like Carson terrible at analyzing politics

I’m thinking both of them (Carson & Cain) have big egos and think they can be big political leaders too.

But really, when you look at what the Republicans have been dredging up as candidates all over, they may just think “hey, I can get into this thing because look who else is running, and they get to make money at it too in books, speaking deals, etc.”

The bar is pretty low. All kind of nuts now think they can clear it.

251 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:45:36am

re: #250 ObserverArt

I’m thinking both of them (Carson & Cain) have big egos and think they can be big political leaders too.

But really, when you look at what the Republicans have been dredging up as candidates all over, they may just think “hey, I can get into this thing because look who else is running, and they get to make money at it too in books, speaking deals, etc.”

The bar is pretty low. All kind of nuts now think they can clear it.

Right, I think it’s more something like that than HFA. or AS. But regarding candidates who have traits of it. I actually think Mitt Romney acted somewhat Aspergerish but it’s hard for me to really say since I have a tough time observing AS in other people.(AS dxed since 2002 myself)

252 Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2014 8:46:18am

re: #247 danarchy

Judging by the City of Ferguson’s budget, it will take them a while to pay that off. I wonder how many extra stops and citations they will have to issue to make up the shortfalls.

Ferguson Budget

Insurance I would think.

253 calochortus  Aug 29, 2014 8:49:24am

re: #252 Stanley Sea

Insurance I would think.

I would hope so. Otherwise they’ll just be suing themselves.

254 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:57:07am

*LIGHTS DESK ON FIRE*
*FLINGS OUT THE WINDOW*

255 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:57:46am

What side of the aisle was Glenn in 2008?

256 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 8:58:20am

NBCNEWS is also “right-wing blogosphere” WTF

257 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 8:58:58am

I remember that and it was stupid but Glenn shouldn’t throw stones.

258 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 9:00:07am

heh…

259 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 9:00:31am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I remember that and it was stupid but Glenn shouldn’t throw stones.

Glenn lives in a splendid glass house overlooking the verdant, throbbing rain forest, where he walks amongst the alpha dogs and ferocious jaguars.

260 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:02:37am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

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Ronnie could be seen wearing a mumu and the wingnuts would still say it was more presidential.

261 Gus  Aug 29, 2014 9:03:06am

Meh. Who cares what Greenwald thinks. He’s a libertarian turd and wants people to vote for Rand Paul.

262 calochortus  Aug 29, 2014 9:04:24am

re: #254 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m glad the derp-o-sphere is focused on the really important things in the world. Anyone who has ever worn a keffiyah is undoubtedly a terrorist. Good thing Lawrence of Arabia didn’t wear one with that print on it.

263 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 9:06:15am

I think the tan suit looks bad (and, worse, it makes the POTUS look old) but on the other hand I would also support an Executive Order authorizing drone strikes on anyone who wears a button-down collar with a tie so I may be “showing my privilege” as the saying goes.

264 Gus  Aug 29, 2014 9:07:32am
265 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 9:09:09am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Ronnie could be seen wearing a mumu and the wingnuts would still say it was more presidential.

Looks like he’s wearing seatcovers from a vintage hotrod.

266 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 9:10:19am

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

Last night I watched that Georgia kid’s “Coming Out” video. Horrific.

In case any of my grandkids come out, I have to be ready with a Rainbow Pie.

I’m just now reading about that video. WTF. It’s heartbreaking and horrible, but I think that kid will be fine. He will be able to move forward with a support system and his head held high. If his family can’t accept it, oh well. It’s their loss.

If you’re a parent and you base your love for your kid on their sexual orientation, you’re doing it wrong. Simple as that.

267 EmmaAnne  Aug 29, 2014 9:11:13am

re: #203 Pie-onist Overlord

I’ve read a few articles this past week about the new “Date Rape Drug Detector Nail Polish” and how the rape awareness activists are not impressed with it, since it puts the onus back on the victim.

But more than that, this touted “miracle nail polish” doesn’t even work! because there are so many different drugs being used, which have chemical signatures that are similar to other liquids (like milk) and also, the MOST COMMON DATE RAPE DRUG is just plain old alcohol, combined with some social engineering.

They are much better off using the buddy system. And yes, I hate that I had to train my daughters in this shit, but it has to be done.

268 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 9:11:30am
269 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 9:12:08am

re: #254 Pie-onist Overlord

Because he’s got nothing to write in his current job, he’s going back into the archives why exactly? Glass houses and all that - as Gus has expertly posted.

Glenn shouldn’t talk about positions previously held.

Charles has shifted his positions well away from the Islamophobes, but Glenn is simply an opportunist who’s looking out for his bottom line.

270 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 9:14:33am

re: #264 Gus

Gus, you’re famous: wonkette.com

271 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 9:14:55am

re: #269 lawhawk

Because he’s got nothing to write in his current job, he’s going back into the archives why exactly? Glass houses and all that - as Gus has expertly posted.

Glenn shouldn’t talk about positions previously held.

Charles has shifted his positions well away from the Islamophobes, but Glenn is simply an opportunist who’s looking out for his bottom line.

You’d think that with millions of Snowden docs at his fingertips he could find something more interesting than some lame Powerpoints.

272 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 9:15:05am

re: #254 Pie-onist Overlord

*LIGHTS DESK ON FIRE*
*FLINGS OUT THE WINDOW*

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Looks like someone is wanting some attention.

273 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 9:15:29am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like he’s wearing seatcovers from a vintage hotrod.

Or some late 70s VW Rabbits and other European cars of the same time.

It was a bad era for some auto interiors.

274 Gus  Aug 29, 2014 9:17:01am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

Gus, you’re famous: wonkette.com

Got one moron from the LA Times derp this morning… thinking I was serious. Apparently LA Times doesn’t give a shit about being, you know, accurate.

275 EmmaAnne  Aug 29, 2014 9:18:15am

re: #255 Pie-onist Overlord

What side of the aisle was Glenn in 2008?

His own, like always.

276 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 9:19:12am

re: #274 Gus

Got one moron from the LA Times derp this morning… thinking I was serious. Apparently LA Times doesn’t give a shit about being, you know, accurate.

Sounds like someone wanted to hit a deadline before going on vacation for Labor Day. What a maroon.

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 9:20:28am
278 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 9:20:57am

ICYMI Colberts bit on ISIS and the wingnut’s wishful thinking strategy…

Video

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 9:21:15am

Interesting tactic, this:

280 Eventual Carrion  Aug 29, 2014 9:21:18am

re: #232 calochortus

Having lived in PA some years ago, I’d guess he’s trying to make buying “demon rum” into a non-threatening, family friendly activity. Women (not drunken louts or crazed teenagers) buying a bottle of wine or a six-pack of beer while buying wholesome food to take home to the family featured in a Norman Rockwell painting.

PA has state stores and is deeply schizophrenic about alcohol sales.

Correct. The state stores sell liquor and wine (but no beer). The beer distributors and bars sell takeout beer (but not allowed to sell takeout wine and liquor). There is a big stink about letting convenience stores and retail grocers sell beer and wine.

** Edited to make clearer.

281 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 9:21:49am

[pierre] GLENN! WE NEED MORE WEBHITS AND PEOPLE AREN’T TALKING ABOUT OUR ONE, OVERPLAYED AND OVERHYPED TOPIC ANYMORE! [/pierre]

[glenn] I’LL GET RIGHT ON IT CHIEF!! [/glenn] (starts digging through archives)

282 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 9:22:45am

Does Obama’s tan suit have its own twitter account yet?

283 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:23:18am

Oh. Oh God. Note to all geeks: Use compressed air on your keyboards more than once every 2-3 years.

284 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:23:40am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting tactic, this:

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Why, do the liberal homesteaders need toilet paper?

285 Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2014 9:24:31am

re: #283 thedopefishlives

Oh. Oh God. Note to all geeks: Use compressed air on your keyboards more than once every 2-3 years.

Something crawl out?

286 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 9:24:54am

I’ve been traveling for the last week and I’m greatly behind on my twitter sarc:

287 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:25:20am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh. That looks like Kokomo.

288 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 9:25:34am

re: #282 b.d.

It wouldn’t be twitter if it didn’t.

twitter.com

289 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:26:01am

re: #285 Stanley Sea

Something crawl out?

Crawled? No. Expelled violently by air cannon? Um, yes.

290 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 9:28:15am

I would like to know who told he looked good in that suit and smack the crap out of them, the damn thing completely clashes with his skin tone.

291 blueraven  Aug 29, 2014 9:33:31am

So now we learn that ISIS has used “enhanced interrogation” methods, AKA waterboarding.

Fucking barbarians!

292 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 9:34:12am

Out of masochist curiosity, has the inevitable Peggy Noonan column been published yet?

293 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 9:35:36am

re: #291 blueraven

So now we learn that ISIS has used “enhanced interrogation” methods, AKA waterboarding.

Fucking barbarians!

As with the Death Penalty, the US is on the right side of history with this!

294 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 9:36:03am

re: #292 Timothy Watson

Out of masochist curiosity, has the inevitable Peggy Nonaan column been published yet?

Check Wonkette. They “review” every Noonan drunk-post.

295 Varek Raith  Aug 29, 2014 9:36:25am

re: #246 Franklin

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296 A Mom Anon  Aug 29, 2014 9:39:10am

re: #193 lawhawk

I want names.

297 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 9:40:18am

re: #296 A Mom Anon

I want names.

Of chubby girls?

298 Stanley Sea  Aug 29, 2014 9:40:34am
299 Snarknado!  Aug 29, 2014 9:40:53am

I think all presidents should be required to wear powdered wigs and frock coats at press conferences. In a distinguished shade of dark green.

300 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:42:10am

re: #298 Stanley Sea

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Mrs. Fish said yesterday, “He should’ve known he would look like a pedophile sitting and watching a kids’ daycare.” Like that excuses the police tasing and arresting him without just cause (if they wanted to book him for being a pedophile, that would’ve been a whole different matter).

301 Snarknado!  Aug 29, 2014 9:44:14am

re: #300 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish said yesterday, “He should’ve known he would look like a pedophile sitting and watching a kids’ daycare.” Like that excuses the police tasing and arresting him without just cause (if they wanted to book him for being a pedophile, that would’ve been a whole different matter).

“Sitting while male?”

302 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:44:43am

re: #300 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish said yesterday, “He should’ve known he would look like a pedophile sitting and watching a kids’ daycare.” Like that excuses the police tasing and arresting him without just cause (if they wanted to book him for being a pedophile, that would’ve been a whole different matter).

So any father who waits for his kids on a bench watching the day care looks like a pedo? No disrespect to the Missus but that’s utter nonsense. Glad they dropped the charges. An apology to him and reprimand of the officers would be better.

303 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:45:21am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

So any father who waits for his kids on a bench watching the day care looks like a pedo? No disrespect to the Missus but that’s utter nonsense. Glad they dropped the charges. An apology to him and reprimand of the officers would be better.

Not going to lie, the discussions over this incident and the whole Ferguson thing have gotten heated to the point where I refuse to talk to her about them. I get why she’s so strongly for the police - her brother is one - but they can be wrong.

304 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 9:46:31am
305 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 29, 2014 9:46:56am

re: #298 Stanley Sea

Interesting that he had in fact broken a law, albeit at the infraction/misdemeanor level. If asked to leave private property you really have no choice.

306 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 9:47:07am

From yesterday: “But, as I said to Chuck, I don’t want to put the cart before the horse. And in some of the media reports, the suggestion seems to have been that, you know, we’re about to go full scale on an elaborate strategy for defeating ISIL.”

Becomes this on Rush Limbaugh today: “I don’t want to put the cart before the horse. We don’t have a strategy.”

See how it works?

307 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 9:47:13am
308 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:47:14am

re: #303 thedopefishlives

Not going to lie, the discussions over this incident and the whole Ferguson thing have gotten heated to the point where I refuse to talk to her about them. I get why she’s so strongly for the police - her brother is one - but they can be wrong.

Right I feel you. My grandmother’s been pretty strongly defending the police in Ferguson too. But unlike your wife she doesn’t have the excuse of having kin on the force. I love her but I really think it’s racially motivated with her.

309 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 9:47:16am

Fuck…and the character assassination train gathers a bit more steam. Cause CCJ says it’s true ya know?

Whole article is noting but CCJ’s tweets on the subject with a few paragraphs of conjecture added for explanation. They did put in a little information to make him sound like something other than the vulture and loon we all know and love however.

Breaking: Michael Brown Allegedly Involved in Second Degree Murder Case
34,454 Shares By Kyle Becker

Charles C. Johnson, the Editor-in-Chief of Got News and the investigator who debunked the Everytown shootings map, is suing the St. Louis County Court to release Ferguson shooting victim Michael Brown’s juvenile arrest records.

310 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:48:32am

re: #307 lawhawk

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Uh uh there’s a photo of me flipping off a classmate at the same age as Michael Brown. Does that mean that an officer deserves to kill me? Oh wait, I’m a white male of average size and not threatening at all.

311 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 9:48:57am

re: #309 ausador

So allegations are breaking news now?

312 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:49:25am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Right I feel you. My grandmother’s been pretty strongly defending the police in Ferguson too. But unlike your wife she doesn’t have the excuse of having kin on the force. I love her but I really think it’s racially motivated with her.

Mrs. Fish’s take on Ferguson was that they went to the tear gas and armored cars because they were afraid they wouldn’t be able to control the protesters otherwise. Subsequent events obviously proved that wrong.

313 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 9:49:52am

Dennis Miller: America 180 (2014) (available September 11)

Because of course.

314 A Mom Anon  Aug 29, 2014 9:50:57am

re: #297 Schadenboner

Smart ass. No. I want names of sexist assholes who think it’s ok to put their hands on colleagues and run their yaps proving what morons they are. If they treat a fellow senator like that, how the hell are they treating interns, secretaries and assistants?

315 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 9:51:34am

re: #313 Schadenboner

Miller hadn’t been funny in at least fifteen years, and he got fired after one season on MNF. Do you know how hard it is to lose that gig?

316 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:51:48am

re: #309 ausador

Fuck…and the character assassination train gathers a bit more steam. Cause CCJ says it’s true ya know?

Whole article is noting but CCJ’s tweets on the subject with a few paragraphs of conjecture added for explanation. They did put in a little information to make him sound like something other than the vulture and loon we all know and love however.

Breaking: Michael Brown Allegedly Involved in Second Degree Murder Case
34,454 Shares By Kyle Becker

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So alleged murderers deserve to die? Is that really the message that Officer Wilson’s defenders want to go with here? Shit is lame man. Fucking lame.

317 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 9:52:13am

re: #314 A Mom Anon

Smart ass. No. I want names of sexist assholes who think it’s ok to put their hands on colleagues and run their yaps proving what morons they are. If they treat a fellow senator like that, how the hell are they treating interns, secretaries and assistants?

Ah, good. Because I’m pretty sure Mrs. Schadenboner threw away my LBB.

318 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 9:52:25am

re: #305 Rightwingconspirator

Interesting that he had in fact broken a law, albeit at the infraction/misdemeanor level. If asked to leave private property you really have no choice.

Which makes sense. I guess I didn’t know that the area where he was sitting wasn’t public. With that said, the police way overreacted to this infraction and to the man’s response.

319 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 9:52:43am

re: #309 ausador

Chuck has been working that angle for weeks now (allowing the claim to ferment in the meantime), and he’s no closer to proving it than he was from the moment he uttered the unsubstantiated claim.

Never mind that they already tried making the claim and their proof turned out to be some other Michael Brown and for events that occurred before the Michael Brown who was killed by Wilson was born. They aren’t interested in the facts. They are just interested in getting this officer to avoid any consequences from his actions.

320 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 9:53:40am

re: #314 A Mom Anon

Smart ass. No. I want names of sexist assholes who think it’s ok to put their hands on colleagues and run their yaps proving what morons they are. If they treat a fellow senator like that, how the hell are they treating interns, secretaries and assistants?

HURR HURR!!!! BILL CLINTON!!!! TED KENNEDY!!!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH WAR ON WOMENS!!!!!

321 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 9:56:07am

Would that be before or after Obama’s third term?

322 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 9:56:11am

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! BILL CLINTON!!!! TED KENNEDY!!!!! TEH DEMOCRATZ IS TEH WAR ON WOMENS!!!!!

I’d say that the answer is, probably (and regrettably) “Anyone with Senator in their name and a dick [ed’s note: including, at least, their own] in their pants”.

323 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 9:58:24am
re: #321 lawhawk

Would that be before or after Obama’s third term?

“Toward the end of her paid remarks at a tech conference in San Francisco….”

How come the liberal media never mentions the “paid remarks” spewing from the seething lips of Palin, Perry, Frothy, Mittens, etc., etc.?

324 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:58:44am

re: #321 lawhawk

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Would that be before or after Obama’s third term?

I understand the point but I do think the writer should realize that any time Obama remotely talks about race, he will be and has been accused of playing the race card. Now the point that it may take a white person to talk seriously about this issue is a fair one as it did take a White Texan to sign much of the signature Civil Rights legislation but that was arguably due to LBJ being a master of understanding how Congress worked.

325 arcosanti  Aug 29, 2014 9:58:55am

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

I wonder how hard it would be to hack a good first person shooter game into a shoot/no shoot simulator.

Kristof covered research on this very subject in his column yesterday done by Joshua Correll at the University of Colorado Boulder. From the column:

In effect, we have a more impulsive trigger finger when confronted by black men and are more cautious with whites. This is true of black players as well, apparently because they absorb the same cultural values as everyone else: Correll has found no statistically significant difference between the play of blacks and that of whites in the shooting game.

Kristof links to it as well, but you can try the game yourself if you like.

Been following LGF on and off for some time and I took this as my sign to de-lurk. Sorry for jumping back so far up thread, but it seemed important to share.

326 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 10:00:26am

re: #319 lawhawk

Chuck has been working that angle for weeks now (allowing the claim to ferment in the meantime), and he’s no closer to proving it than he was from the moment he uttered the unsubstantiated claim.

Never mind that they already tried making the claim and their proof turned out to be some other Michael Brown and for events that occurred before the Michael Brown who was killed by Wilson was born. They aren’t interested in the facts. They are just interested in getting this officer to avoid any consequences from his actions.

Well he will get his day in court on Sept. 3rd apparently, lets see if he can convince a judge that he has both standing and cause for the records to be released to him.

327 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 29, 2014 10:01:10am

re: #318 thedopefishlives

Which makes sense. I guess I didn’t know that the area where he was sitting wasn’t public. With that said, the police way overreacted to this infraction and to the man’s response.

Oh hey absolutely. I think I’m a little focused on the legalities of these matters as it’s a matter of research and fact checking for a project. The police legal obligations are the focus, demeanor will have to be a later nuance.

328 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 10:01:17am

New coffeemaker this morning.

It. Is. Good.

329 wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2014 10:02:06am

re: #325 arcosanti

Welcome, hatchling.

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 10:02:19am

re: #325 arcosanti

welcome, hatchling.

331 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 10:02:32am

re: #325 arcosanti

Welcome hatchling. :)

332 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 29, 2014 10:03:16am

re: #321 lawhawk

I’d like to hear Clinton’s thoughts on avoiding endless quagmires in the ME.

333 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 10:04:16am

re: #325 arcosanti

Kristof covered research on this very subject in his column yesterday done by Joshua Correll at the University of Colorado Boulder. From the column:

Kristof links to it as well, but you can try the game yourself if you like.

Been following LGF on and off for some time and I took this as my sign to de-lurk. Sorry for jumping back so far up thread, but it seemed important to share.

Welcome, hatchling. Will you sign my bell?

334 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 10:07:19am

FYI. Hatchlings are required to bring brownies and good coffee for the group.

335 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 10:07:54am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

FYI. Hatchlings are required to bring brownies and good coffee for the group.

emphasis mine.

Welcome!

336 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 29, 2014 10:08:51am

re: #325 arcosanti

Welcome.
I wonder if one had done a test like that back when the minority was Asian or Irish it worked the same way.

337 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 29, 2014 10:09:46am

re: #325 arcosanti

Welcome! Your first comment is a heck of a good start.

338 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:09:52am

re: #325 arcosanti

You can bring me a soy caramel cappuccino.

339 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 10:10:35am
340 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 29, 2014 10:11:24am

re: #325 arcosanti

BTW that looks like it would make a great Page. Go for it if you know how, there are very helpful hints in the LGF Users Guide

341 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:12:48am

re: #339 Franklin

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Being on the spectrum myself, I can’t like this enough. It’s good to be able to relate to characters.

342 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:15:11am
343 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:17:42am

So this thing about Brown’s arrest records. He was suspected in a murder. Hmmmm I thought these people wanted the facts to come out. Oh wait, he was a black kid so no BOD for you Mike, and your killer deserves not only to walk free but be lionized too.

344 nsmith25  Aug 29, 2014 10:17:53am
345 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 10:19:15am

re: #342 Pie-onist Overlord

I want to know why any of his arrest records are relevant to the fact that he got shot dead by a cop and left in the street for hours.

I want to know how those records are relevant when the Ferguson PD actively helped Brown’s killer scrub his online life and leave town when anyone else would’ve been in jail without any sort of bond or bail.

I especially want to know why they’re relevant in the face of the fascist response by the Ferguson PD and the county police to the protesters.

346 arcosanti  Aug 29, 2014 10:19:26am

re: #340 Rightwingconspirator

BTW that looks like it would make a great Page. Go for it if you know how, there are very helpful hints in the LGF Users Guide

I’ll definitely tackle that after work, finishing up lunch now and have to get back to it. Coffee in the french press is brewing, help yourself. I’ll get that soy cappuccino for Pie-onist in a sec, gotta get the donuts out of the car for everyone. :)

347 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 10:20:06am

So now we learn that ISIS has used “enhanced interrogation” methods, AKA waterboarding.

Fucking barbarians!

Report: Islamic State waterboarded James Foley and other captives in Syria

What’s the big deal? Waterboarding isn’t torture. It’s just an enhanced interrogation® technique. It’s harmless. It’s just like getting splashed with water.

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348 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:20:46am

re: #346 arcosanti

I’ll definitely tackle that after work, finishing up lunch now and have to get back to it. Coffee in the french press is brewing, help yourself. I’ll get that soy cappuccino for Pie-onist in a sec, gotta get the donuts out of the car for everyone. :)

You are a good hatchling, you may have pie when the other lizards have taken their slice.

349 wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2014 10:21:19am

re: #348 Pie-onist Overlord

You are a good hatchling, you may have pie when the other lizards have taken their slice.

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I only see one piece.

350 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:22:34am

re: #345 Lidane

I want to know why any of his arrest records are relevant to the fact that he got shot dead by a cop and left in the street for hours.

I want to know how those records are relevant when the Ferguson PD actively helped Brown’s killer scrub his online life and leave town when anyone else would’ve been in jail without any sort of bond or bail.

I especially want to know why they’re relevant in the face of the fascist response by the Ferguson PD and the county police to the protesters.

This times a billion, thank you! I honestly don’t care if Brown was a serial murderer. The kid was unarmed and Officer Wilson shot him. Even criminals are entitled to justice under the law and this fucking right wing bullshit trying to justify Officer Wilson shooting him and the subsequent cover up by the Ferguson PD is disgusting.

351 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 10:22:44am

re: #346 arcosanti

I’ll definitely tackle that after work, finishing up lunch now and have to get back to it. Coffee in the french press is brewing, help yourself. I’ll get that soy cappuccino for Pie-onist in a sec, gotta get the donuts out of the car for everyone. :)

First-world debris: While walking the dog, saw a fancy version of a Keurig along the way for curb-cycling.

352 nsmith25  Aug 29, 2014 10:22:49am

re: #349 wrenchwench

I only see one piece.

I only see my piece

353 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 10:23:42am

From the article (and it’s a quote from Sarah Palin’s FB post):

There is absolutely nothing important going on in the world right now.

There are no security threats, no worldwide turmoil affecting America’s interests, no civil war in Syria, South Sudan, or Libya. No war on our ally, Israel. No Ebola epidemic devastating West Africa and spreading. No race riots tearing apart a whole community in Missouri.

Yes Sarah, it’s the f*cking “race riots” that are “tearing apart a whole community in Missouri”.

354 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 10:24:19am

Is there some sort of RWNJ requirement that you have to file frivolous lawsuits?

Larry Klayman Sues Obama Again, Says He ‘Views Himself Primarily As A Muslim And Acts Accordingly’

His newest complaint, with himself and a number of John Does as plaintiffs, is a civil action and seeks damages from the defendants “for violating plaintiffs’ and decedents’ rights, for engaging in racketeering and other prohibited activities, for engaging in international terrorism, for harboring and concealing terrorists, for providing material support to terrorists and terrorist groups, for directly and proximately causing the deaths of plaintiffs’ decedents, and for directly and proximately causing mental anguish, severe emotional distress, emotional pain and suffering, and the loss of society, earnings, companionship, comfort, protection, care, attention, advice, counsel or guidance, plaintiffs, on behalf of themselves and their sons, plaintiffs’ decedents, have experienced and will experience in the future.”

It alleges fraud, money-laundering, mail fraud, wire fraud, conversion and corruption.

Oh FFS, Larry. The tan suit washed him out and looked terrible, but it wasn’t that bad.

355 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 10:24:59am

re: #353 Franklin

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From the article (and it’s a quote from Sarah Palin’s FB post):

Yes Sarah, it’s the f*cking “race riots” that are “tearing apart a whole community in Missouri”.

Sarah Palin calling for US intervention in South Sudan?!

Really!?

356 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:25:56am

Welp, the appliance repair guy says it will cost $340 to replace the door on our 10-year-old dishwasher.

I’m going to Best Buy on Sunday to get a new fridge, can probably get a sweet deal on a new dishwasher at the same time.

357 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:26:44am

re: #353 Franklin

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From the article (and it’s a quote from Sarah Palin’s FB post):

Yes Sarah, it’s the f*cking “race riots” that are “tearing apart a whole community in Missouri”.

Can she just go back to Alaska and leave the rest of us alone? Sarah, just run for office already. Oh right? There’s more money and less accountability in just second guessing.

358 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:27:25am

re: #354 Lidane

Is there some sort of RWNJ requirement that you have to file frivolous lawsuits?

Larry Klayman Sues Obama Again, Says He ‘Views Himself Primarily As A Muslim And Acts Accordingly’

Oh FFS, Larry. The tan suit washed him out and looked terrible, but it wasn’t that bad.

I’m surprised Larry hasn’t sued Obama yet for ruining his tenth birthday party where the clown showed up drunk on cheap vodka.

359 makeitstop  Aug 29, 2014 10:28:11am

Afternoon, Lizards!

This thread needs some go-go.

Youtube Video

360 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 10:28:19am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

Welp, the appliance repair guy says it will cost $340 to replace the door on our 10-year-old dishwasher.

I’m going to Best Buy on Sunday to get a new fridge, can probably get a sweet deal on a new dishwasher at the same time.

Give the old one to a handyman. There’s nothing in that door that should cost $50.

361 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:29:21am

re: #360 Decatur Deb

Give the old one to a handyman. There’s nothing in that door that should cost $50.

When they install the new one they will take the old one out to the curb and it will be gone within the hour.

363 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 10:31:14am

re: #362 Lidane

The More You Know:

Why Isn’t The US Mentioned In The Bible? Because So Many Americans Will Be Raptured In The End Times

Dafuq?

364 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:31:57am

re: #362 Lidane

The More You Know:

Why Isn’t The US Mentioned In The Bible? Because So Many Americans Will Be Raptured In The End Times

Why isn’t Rapture mentioned in the Bible?

365 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 10:32:14am

re: #362 Lidane

The More You Know:

Why Isn’t The US Mentioned In The Bible? Because So Many Americans Will Be Raptured In The End Times

Wait…I thought Bryan said we’re all heathens?

366 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 10:33:14am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait…I thought Bryan said we’re all heathens?

Nah, that’s just them gay people. Real Muricans, on the other hand.

367 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 10:33:21am

re: #364 Pie-onist Overlord

Why isn’t Rapture mentioned in the Bible?

Pfft. Details.

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368 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:33:23am

re: #362 Lidane

The More You Know:

Why Isn’t The US Mentioned In The Bible? Because So Many Americans Will Be Raptured In The End Times

I can’t believe I have to share a galaxy with people like this.

369 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:33:48am

You know being a Republican isn’t mentioned in the bible either nor is being a conservative.

370 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 10:34:02am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

So this thing about Brown’s arrest records. He was suspected in a murder. Hmmmm I thought these people wanted the facts to come out. Oh wait, he was a black kid so no BOD for you Mike, and your killer deserves not only to walk free but be lionized too.

They are searching for any shred of evidence, anything thin enough to see through, as a means of getting Wilson off for killing an unarmed black man.

An unarmed black man who was shot by Officer Wilson multiple times with a 3 second pauses between volleys.

They’re pinning their hopes of the potential existence of a sealed record.

371 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 10:34:18am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

You know being a Republican isn’t mentioned in the bible either nor is being a conservative.

STOP IT YOU’RE BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL! YOU’RE RUINING MY RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE!

372 Decatur Deb  Aug 29, 2014 10:34:18am

re: #364 Pie-onist Overlord

Why isn’t Rapture mentioned in the Bible?

It doesn’t do post-60s Rock.

en.wikipedia.org

373 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 10:35:11am

re: #356 Pie-onist Overlord

You’d not only get a new one for that price, but one that is more energy efficient too, so you’d end up saving water and energy costs going forward.

374 Mike Lamb  Aug 29, 2014 10:36:21am

re: #345 Lidane

I want to know why any of his arrest records are relevant to the fact that he got shot dead by a cop and left in the street for hours.

I want to know how those records are relevant when the Ferguson PD actively helped Brown’s killer scrub his online life and leave town when anyone else would’ve been in jail without any sort of bond or bail.

I especially want to know why they’re relevant in the face of the fascist response by the Ferguson PD and the county police to the protesters.

They aren’t relevant. Given the prejudicial nature of such prior criminal acts, it’d be exceedingly unlikely they’d be admissible in any way in a court proceeding. It’s character assassination, pure and simple. I can’t even imagine how the jury pool wouldn’t be completely tainted if he had a juvenile criminal record that included some kind of serious crime and it was made public.

376 Mike Lamb  Aug 29, 2014 10:39:19am

re: #370 lawhawk

They are searching for any shred of evidence, anything thin enough to see through, as a means of getting Wilson off for killing an unarmed black man.

An unarmed black man who was shot by Officer Wilson multiple times with a 3 second pauses between volleys.

They’re pinning their hopes of the potential existence of a sealed record.

It’s the Underpants Gnomes of criminal defense:

1. 10 shots fired at an unarmed kid, killing him while trying to surrender
2. Lawsuit to unseal juvenile criminal records of decedent
3. ????
4. Justified use of lethal force

377 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:40:23am

re: #375 Lidane

The More You Know, gender studies edition:

Sandy Rios: Women ‘Brainwashed’ By Women’s Studies Programs To Ignore That It’s Really Men Who Are ‘Being Degraded’

Poor men. I mean it’s not like when we get raped. We get told “Why did you drink too much?” and We’re called “Masculinazis” by Rush Limbaugh. Oh and we control most of the fortune 500 companies, sit in most legislators, judge’s chairs, and governor’s mansions. Yeah I’m so degraded being a man.

378 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 10:42:24am

Oh and remember that time “Sam Fluke” got called a slut for testifying that contraception coverage was a good idea and all the Republican candidates went along with it.

379 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2014 10:46:24am

“Threat Level” is trending on teh twitterz.
My favorite one so far:

380 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 10:52:14am

re: #315 Kid A

Miller hadn’t been funny in at least fifteen years, and he got fired after one season on MNF. Do you know how hard it is to lose that gig?

Check out the more rude/crude definition of the word dick.

See that photo next to it? Recognize him?

: )

381 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 10:52:18am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Threat Level” is trending on teh twitterz.
My favorite one so far:

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DON’T HANG IN THERE, BABY!

382 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 10:53:05am

WINGNUT MEME FAIL
Rich people would have a grounds crew.
This kid is mowing his parent’s lawn FOR FREE 50 years ago.

383 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 10:54:20am

re: #382 Pie-onist Overlord

WINGNUT MEME FAIL
Rich people would have a grounds crew.
This kid is mowing his parent’s lawn FOR FREE 50 years ago.

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Why is that guy tweeting rather than working? Isn’t that stealing from his rich boss?

384 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 29, 2014 10:54:38am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Threat Level” is trending on teh twitterz.
My favorite one so far:

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Teh kittehz attack the set of Thunderbirds are Go!

385 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 10:56:17am

I see where Sgt. Go F*ck Yourself resigned.

nbcnews.com

386 De Kolta Chair  Aug 29, 2014 10:56:47am

387 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 10:57:31am

That’s something you don’t see every day. The President using a plane other than SAM-28000 or SAM-28001 (747s). They’re using one of the 757s that the Presidential wing has at its disposal and is typically used by the Vice President.

A plane gets AF1 designation when the president is aboard.

388 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 10:57:39am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

So this thing about Brown’s arrest records. He was suspected in a murder. Hmmmm I thought these people wanted the facts to come out. Oh wait, he was a black kid so no BOD for you Mike, and your killer deserves not only to walk free but be lionized too.

CCJ never even said that, he said that his sources had told him that Michael brown was “involved” in a second degree murder. He didn’t say that Brown himself had specifically committed the supposed murder.

A whole lot of people seem to have jumped to that conclusion though…

389 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 10:59:25am

re: #349 wrenchwench

I only see one piece.

Yeah.

Mine!

390 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 11:00:11am

re: #389 ObserverArt

Yeah.

Mine!

You know what it tastes like?

MORE.

391 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 29, 2014 11:00:30am

Untouchable cops are untouchable:

Deputy who killed former Napster COO after drifting into the bike lane while distracted by his laptop will NOT face charges because he was answering a work-related email
Milton Olin Jr, 65, was fatally struck by a Los Angeles county sheriff’s patrol car December 8, 2013, as he rode in the bike lane in Calabasas
Deputy Anthony Wood was returning from a fire call when he took his eyes off the road to type a work-related message on an electronic device
Olin was director of operations for Napster between 2000 and 2002 and was a prominent entertainment lawyer
The victim’s wife and sons have filed a wrongful death lawsuit claiming Wood was negligent

Read more: dailymail.co.uk

392 Jayleia  Aug 29, 2014 11:00:35am

re: #388 ausador

A witness to a murder is “involved” in it too…I seem to recall these sorts of morons making that mistake before.

393 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 11:01:04am

*headdesk*

Rick Perry’s National Guard Hasn’t Been Paid for Patrolling Border, Resorts to Food Banks

A food bank revealed to local TV station KGBT that they’d been inundated with food requests from Guardsmen, who were deployed on August 11 and won’t be paid until September 5. “We were contacted that 50 troops that are in the Valley don’t have any money for food and gas and they need our assistance,” the bank’s director told KGTV.

According to The Wire, it costs about $12 million per month to keep the 1,000 troops at the border “sustained,” and Perry’s refused to use Texas money to pay them, instead calling on the federal government to do so.

Naturally, other state officials disagree. “It’s embarrassing that our troops have to stand in a food pantry line,” Democratic state Rep. Rene Oliveira said. “This is the fault of the state.”

394 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 11:01:11am

SMH…

*facedesk*

395 Mattand  Aug 29, 2014 11:01:49am

re: #345 Lidane

I want to know why any of his arrest records are relevant to the fact that he got shot dead by a cop and left in the street for hours.

I want to know how those records are relevant when the Ferguson PD actively helped Brown’s killer scrub his online life and leave town when anyone else would’ve been in jail without any sort of bond or bail.

I especially want to know why they’re relevant in the face of the fascist response by the Ferguson PD and the county police to the protesters.

Pretty much this. The fact that the St. Louis Dispatch, supposedly a responsible paper of record, is being trolled into the smear campaign by Chucky C is beyond ridiculous.

The only reason people (and let’s not bullshit: they’re overwhelmingly white) want to know about anything about Michael Brown’s past is so they can say “The scary ni-CLANG! had it coming”, and justify a horrendous piece of police brutality.

396 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 11:01:56am

re: #394 ausador

SMH…

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*facedesk*

Wait, what the…

397 ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2014 11:02:01am

re: #354 Lidane

Is there some sort of RWNJ requirement that you have to file frivolous lawsuits?

Larry Klayman Sues Obama Again, Says He ‘Views Himself Primarily As A Muslim And Acts Accordingly’

Oh FFS, Larry. The tan suit washed him out and looked terrible, but it wasn’t that bad.

Can you imagine if Larry Klayman married Orly Taitz and they had a rather large family???

There might not be enough judges and lawyers!

398 Mattand  Aug 29, 2014 11:02:42am

re: #387 lawhawk

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That’s something you don’t see every day. The President using a plane other than SAM-28000 or SAM-28001 (747s). They’re using one of the 757s that the Presidential wing has at its disposal and is typically used by the Vice President.

A plane gets AF1 designation when the president is aboard.

At least it’s not tan.

399 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 11:06:41am
400 Timothy Watson  Aug 29, 2014 11:07:58am

Someone want to tell McChuckleNuts (Charles C. Johnson) that a juvenile charged with murder would have probably been transferred to adult court?

401 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 11:08:08am

re: #394 ausador

SMH…

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*facedesk*

How do you know Jesus was a Catholic? He thought his mother was a virgin.

How do you know Mary was a Jew? She thought her son was G-d.

402 Lidane  Aug 29, 2014 11:08:23am

re: #400 Timothy Watson

Someone want to tell McChuckleNuts (Charles C. Johnson) that a juvenile charged with murder would have probably been transferred to adult court?

Forget it, he’s rolling.

403 Kragar  Aug 29, 2014 11:08:46am

re: #394 ausador

SMH…

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*facedesk*

They could also just look at Christian Militias in Africa and get plenty of examples

404 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 11:08:53am

re: #399 Franklin

Spot the radical…

405 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 11:10:47am

Apropos of yesterday’s nin discussion, David Bowie’s collaboration with Trent:

Youtube Video

406 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 11:11:19am

Lawsuits against the President = ↑ 100%
Government Shutdown Threats = ↑ 100%

407 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 29, 2014 11:11:29am

*LIGHTS ANOTHER DESK ON FIRE*
Cato applauds the policies of the country famous for “gutter oil”

408 jaunte  Aug 29, 2014 11:12:21am

re: #387 lawhawk

Derp commandos on duty.

409 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 11:12:28am

re: #407 Pie-onist Overlord

*LIGHTS ANOTHER DESK ON FIRE*
Cato applauds the policies of the country famous for “gutter oil”

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Oh, come on, people, now you’re just trolling.

410 Varek Raith  Aug 29, 2014 11:14:28am

I’m glad my desk can’t catch fire.

411 jaunte  Aug 29, 2014 11:14:55am

re: #407 Pie-onist Overlord

The policy stipulates that if a brand of milk powder is recalled, customers who bought cans from any Redbaby store or its e-commerce website would be paid up to 2,000 yuan ($325) per can, with payments capped at 100,000 yuan.

“Sorry about the melamine killing your kid. Here’s 16 grand, now go away.”

412 Franklin  Aug 29, 2014 11:15:11am

re: #408 jaunte

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Derp commandos on duty.

To the idiot that said “What an important piece of news!”…why are you following the CBS News White House Correspondent? Many of the tweets are day to day announcements of travel and agenda.

413 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 11:16:48am

re: #410 Varek Raith

I’m glad my desk can’t catch fire.

We have ways. I hear chlorine trifluoride is able to do some very entertaining things to some ordinarily un-entertaining substances.

414 Schadenboner  Aug 29, 2014 11:17:20am

re: #392 Jayleia

A witness to a murder is “involved” in it too…I seem to recall these sorts of morons making that mistake before.

As is the victim.

So the Murder 2 he’s “involved” in may well be his own.

415 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 11:18:56am

Shithead is “reporting” (without any proof, go figure) that the St. Louis Post-Dispatch is also suing for Brown’s juvenile records. I bet it’s bullshit, but I tweeted the Dispatch nonetheless.

416 lawhawk  Aug 29, 2014 11:21:21am

Putin fetishists:

417 Jenner7  Aug 29, 2014 11:22:29am

re: #309 ausador

So, they are just quoting Charles C and slapped on “breaking” and “allegedly”?

Nice.

418 thedopefishlives  Aug 29, 2014 11:22:59am

re: #417 Jenner7

So, they are just quoting Charles C and slapped on “breaking” and “allegedly”?

Nice.

That’s real journalism.

419 Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2014 11:30:46am

re: #397 ObserverArt

Can you imagine if Larry Klayman married Orly Taitz and they had a rather large family???

I think that’s the prequel to Idiocracy and the beginning of the end for intelligent mankind.

420 allegro  Aug 29, 2014 12:38:26pm

re: #411 jaunte

“Sorry about the melamine killing your kid. Here’s 16 grand, now go away.”

The melamine DID kill my kid, my beautiful, precious Sheltie. It cost me almost $1000 in vet bills to lose him anyway. Where’s my money?


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