Texas Gov. Rick Perry Tweets Ugly Image, Deletes It, Then Says It Was “Unauthorized”

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LGF contributor @Gus_802 has a saved copy of the ugly tweet posted by Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s account tonight:

But, uh, Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg had nothing to do with his indictment…

And then…

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394 comments
1 Ryan King  Aug 31, 2014 7:00:50pm

Special Prosecutor Hannity will be on this to prove once and for all this was a liberal plant.

2 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 7:01:34pm

So insane.

3 Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2014 7:03:27pm

Well, looks like some random intern’s about to get a pink slip to save his boss’ ass.

5 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 7:05:28pm
6 b.d.  Aug 31, 2014 7:06:17pm

TWI

7 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 7:08:35pm

As someone who’s worn glasses for over fifty years, Randy Newman’s song “Four Eyes” comes to mind…

Youtube Video

8 Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2014 7:12:20pm

Uhhh, I forgot.

9 PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2014 7:12:37pm

This appears to be a case of shooting one from the hip or in this case the tweeter.

10 Goldenpipewrench  Aug 31, 2014 7:13:01pm

:) Twitchy comments are priceless…….you know you want to peek….

11 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 7:16:27pm
12 Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2014 7:17:50pm

Perry better be careful with crap like that. All it takes is a judge in a bad mood to ruin your day.

13 lawhawk  Aug 31, 2014 7:19:38pm

There were three things that Gov. Perry was supposed to remember to do with his Twitter profile. Three. He couldn’t get past the first.

Thou shalt not drunk tweet.

14 Jay C  Aug 31, 2014 7:20:49pm

And this is the assclown Texans chose over Kinky Friedman??

Tragic.

15 Belafon  Aug 31, 2014 7:22:15pm

re: #14 Jay C

Texas, my state, would choose him over jesus.

16 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 7:22:20pm

re: #13 lawhawk

There were three things that Gov. Perry was supposed to remember to do with his Twitter profile. Three. He couldn’t get past the first.

Thou shalt not drunk tweet.

I thought that was what Rosemary Lehmberg needed to remember to avoid.

17 lawhawk  Aug 31, 2014 7:22:43pm
18 Belafon  Aug 31, 2014 7:23:32pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Nope, that’s just drunk driving. Which seems to be a bigger problem for Texas judges than i would have expected.

19 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 7:24:54pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

20 Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2014 7:30:28pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

Why u kill thread???
:P

21 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 7:30:47pm

re: #17 lawhawk

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The cost of this change being effected was far too high, but it is still good things are being changed. It won’t bring Michael Brown back, but hopefully it will keep what happened to him from recurring in Ferguson.

22 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 7:31:23pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

She wasn’t the one who indicted Rick Perry. A Republican appointee was.

Also, she might be a drunk bitch, but Perry’s hardly a paragon of virtue.

23 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 7:31:36pm

re: #20 Varek Raith

Why u kill thread???
:P

Because I’m waiting for William to show up. I’ve got a story just for him.

24 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 7:32:47pm
25 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 7:33:12pm
26 goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2014 7:34:54pm
27 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 7:38:06pm

I keep my nose on the grindstone, I work hard every day
Might get a little tired on the weekend, after I draw my pay
But I’ll go back workin, come Monday morning I’m right back with the crew
I’ll drink a little beer that evening,
Sing a little bit of these working man blues

— Merle Haggard, Working Man’s Blues

28 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2014 7:39:10pm

This is just like all those folks who stupidly hit “forward” on an office email without thinking of the consequences.

29 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 7:40:20pm
30 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 7:42:49pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

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Governor Rick Perry, IT. Do this thing, AMC!

31 plansbandc  Aug 31, 2014 7:43:44pm

What a completely worthless human being.

32 Kid A  Aug 31, 2014 7:46:21pm

re: #27 De Kolta Chair

That is a great photograph. Any idea who shot it and when?

34 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 31, 2014 7:48:58pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Because I’m waiting for William to show up. I’ve got a story just for him.

What up?

35 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 7:49:03pm
36 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 7:49:27pm
37 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 31, 2014 7:52:11pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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What a miserable worm he is.

RBS

38 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 7:53:29pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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“So dishonest: @gatewaypundit is demonstrating the leftist racial narratives pushed by the national.”

The national what? National Car Rental? National Velvet? National Bohemian?

39 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 7:53:37pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Hey @davdovich, I got this for you!

Can you HEAR it?!?

40 andres  Aug 31, 2014 7:55:24pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

I see, goal post moving by @davdovich . <ding>

I think another question would be, did Joseph Jennings Kansas’ murder resulted in pacific protest of his home town for almost a month? Because that’s one of the main contributors that the Michael Brown’s murder has gotten a lot of media attention.

Edit: Clearing up who was goal post moving.

41 b_sharp  Aug 31, 2014 7:57:55pm

What’s with all the empty comments?

42 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 7:58:04pm

My mother. She tweets. Sometimes.

43 Belafon  Aug 31, 2014 7:58:51pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Brown’s shooting really didn’t get national attention until reporters started getting arrested.

44 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:00:04pm

re: #34 William Barnett-Lewis

What up?

Saw this article and part of it seemed to be something you might be interested in:

Ukraine war pulls in foreign fighters

Spain

For two Spanish leftists, the conflict in east Ukraine represents a chance to repay what they see as a historic favour.
Angel Davilla-Rivas (C) and Rafa Munoz Perez (R) in Donetsk, 7 August Angel Davilla-Rivas (C) and Rafa Munoz Perez (R) in Donetsk

Angel Davilla-Rivas told Reuters news agency he had come with his comrade Rafa Munoz Perez to fight for the rebels in recognition of the Soviet Union’s support for the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War.

Mr Munoz, 27, is a former social worker from Madrid who has been a member of the youth wing of the United Left political movement since 2010, Spain’s El Pais newspaper said in an article. His friend, 22, is from Murcia and belongs to the youth wing of a branch of the Spanish Communist Party, the paper added.

Mr Davilla-Rivas showed off tattoos of Soviet leaders Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin on his torso.

“I am the only son, and it hurts my mother and father and my family a lot that I am putting myself at risk. But… I can’t sleep in my bed knowing what’s going on here,” he told Reuters.

There are also reports of Spaniards fighting on the government side, according to an article in the Kyiv Post.

Image: _77262583_023432766-1.jpg
Rafa Munoz Perez, a Spaniard serving with the rebels in Donetsk, wears a Spanish Republic wristband

The rifle shown is a ‘Century’ series AK, chambered in 5.45mm.

It would seem to me however, that those seeking to remember the Republican side of the Spanish Civil War would fight for the Ukraine.

45 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 31, 2014 8:03:10pm

I watched an hour & a half of The Monuments Men and I’ll watch the rest tomorrow.

WHY WHY WHY do movies made 50 years ago look so much more “real” than movies made today? All the movies made today look like TV shows.

Is it because higher res film or crappy production values?

46 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 8:04:20pm
47 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 8:04:54pm

Heh.

And yes I know it’s a parody account.

48 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 8:05:04pm

Blows my mind. Our local ice hockey squad has this dude playing for them, and I couldn’t be happier!

49 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:05:07pm

re: #46 jaunte

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One that walks on four legs or one that walks on two legs?

50 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 8:06:34pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

My mother. She tweets. Sometimes.

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An article about Justice Blair with the unfortunately porny sounding title “A Man of Firmness”:

history.org

51 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 8:07:41pm

The moon tonight is really beautiful where I’m at.

52 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 8:08:00pm

This x a billion:

I can’t believe Perry has been governor in this state for over a decade. WTF Texas? He’s been completely worthless.

53 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 31, 2014 8:08:58pm
54 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 8:10:08pm

USA Today/Suffolk University survey of Iowa voters released Wednesday:

…if Romney was added to the list of potential 2016 GOP White House contenders, 35% of Iowa Republicans say he’d be their first choice in the Iowa caucuses, which kick off the presidential primary and caucus calendar.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the 2008 Iowa Republican caucuses and is considering another bid in 2016, is a distant second, at 9%. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, who narrowly won the 2012 caucuses, are each at 6%. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Texas Gov. Rick Perry are each at 5%, with the remaining potential candidates tested were all in the lower single digits.
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

5% and sinking.

55 Romantic Heretic  Aug 31, 2014 8:10:12pm

re: #15 Belafon

Texas, my state, would choose him over jesus.

Especially over Jesus.

Ain’t votin’ fer no Mexican, and what’s with this love your neighbour as yourself shit?

Commie!

56 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 31, 2014 8:10:21pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

It would seem to me however, that those seeking to remember the Republican side of the Spanish Civil War would fight for the Ukraine.

Interesting. I agree that the Republican government (before it got tangled up it Stalin’s duplicity) would represent the Ukrainian interests this time. Were I younger & without a child, I’d be tempted to find a TC’s hatch in a Ukrainian T-84. Preferably without having to write a “Homage to Kiev” after dodging my way out of country ;)

57 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:12:35pm

re: #56 William Barnett-Lewis

Interesting. I agree that the Republican government (before it got tangled up it Stalin’s duplicity) would represent the Ukrainian interests this time. Were I younger & without a child, I’d be tempted to find a TC’s hatch in a Ukrainian T-84. Preferably without having to write a “Homage to Kiev” after dodging my way out of country ;)

I’m glad you’re not trying that William. Russia’s got Su-25s, Mi-28s, and Ka-52s in the air. Those can put a serious hurt on an MBT and we’d not like to lose you.

58 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:16:19pm

re: #43 Belafon

Brown’s shooting really didn’t get national attention until reporters started getting arrested.

Correct—

59 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 8:16:48pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

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My nephew, who happens to be black, headed up to Boston today to start his first year there as a junior at Emerson College, His goal is to be a “show runner.” I have absolutely no doubts he’ll achieve his dream. I’m the proudest uncle in the history of history.

Haters gotta hate, and the world spins on.

60 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:17:35pm

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

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“This is exasperating!” The boy reminds me of myself when I was his age.

Keep expanding your vocabulary, young man. Having many ways to say something makes conversation and writing much richer and more enjoyable.

And to the racists hating on that child:

Youtube Video

61 Belafon  Aug 31, 2014 8:17:41pm

re: #58 BeachDem

I can’t get your picture to get any bigger. Do you have a link?

62 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 31, 2014 8:18:36pm

That’s why they should be mounting SA-24 Grinch MANPADS on the sides of the turrets :) Even Frogfeet can get an IR hotfoot…

63 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 8:20:06pm

MANPADS. I hate that acronym. Sounds weird.

64 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:20:51pm

re: #45 Pie-onist Overlord

I watched an hour & a half of The Monuments Men and I’ll watch the rest tomorrow.

WHY WHY WHY do movies made 50 years ago look so much more “real” than movies made today? All the movies made today look like TV shows.

Is it because higher res film or crappy production values?

I liked that movie—now you’ve reminded me that I meant to get the book.

Did you think the movie looked good or bad? They really did shoot in pretty authentic locations.

imdb.com

65 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 8:21:00pm

re: #63 Gus

Dudes need somewhere to crash.

66 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:22:20pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s why they should be mounting SA-24 Grinch MANPADS on the sides of the turrets :) Even Frogfeet can get an IR hotfoot…

The problem is that its only Putin’s guys who have those. They may even have Russia’s newest MANPADS SAM.

67 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:22:50pm

re: #65 jaunte

Dudes need somewhere to crash.

Now that’s a good play on words.

68 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 8:24:07pm

LOLWut?

69 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 31, 2014 8:25:40pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that its only Putin’s guys who have those. They may even have Russia’s newest MANPADS SAM.

Ok, the SA-18 then, put 4 on ever tank and you’ll cause enough trouble to give Frontal Aviation a serious headache.

70 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:25:48pm

re: #52 Lidane

I have to go to Brownsville next month for work. What with the National Guard, the Border Patrol and the militias, I can’t decide whether to take my passport or buy a flak jacket.

71 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 8:26:17pm

re: #50 De Kolta Chair

An article about Justice Blair with the unfortunately porny sounding title “A Man of Firmness”

history.org

Thanks! Good read!

72 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:28:39pm

The sick freak @TGUS_807 who stalks me on Twitter is now harassing New York Magazine art director Jerry Saltz, who paid me a compliment earlier.

73 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 8:28:55pm

re: #32 Kid A

That is a great photograph. Any idea who shot it and when?

I wish I knew. I got it from this blog
rivet-head.com

which posts many great photos.

74 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:29:07pm

re: #54 jaunte

Charles Pierce has offered, once again, to be Romney’s speech writer if he runs in 2016. Here’s his theme:

I’m Mitt Romney, bitches, and I’m still all you got left.

esquire.com

75 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:31:42pm
76 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 31, 2014 8:32:26pm

re: #64 BeachDem

I liked that movie—now you’ve reminded me that I meant to get the book.

Did you think the movie looked good or bad? They really did shoot in pretty authentic locations.

imdb.com

It looked totally fake, like a stage set. It bothered me enough that I had to stop watching.

I think movie producers today are so heaviily invested in CGI that when they make a movie like Monuments Men that doesn’t really need special effects, they have shitty production values. An actual B&W movie shot in the 1940’s would look better than that.

77 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 8:32:35pm

re: #70 BeachDem

I have to go to Brownsville next month for work. What with the National Guard, the Border Patrol and the militias, I can’t decide whether to take my passport or buy a flak jacket.

Both. Just try and buy a lightweight flak jacket that’s made for desert conditions. It’s most likely going to be hot as hell down there.

78 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:33:10pm

re: #61 Belafon

I can’t get your picture to get any bigger. Do you have a link?

I don’t know why it’s so small—here’s the link to the Pew article:

pewresearch.org

79 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:33:48pm
80 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 8:33:50pm

Facts that make me go Whaaat???

81 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 8:34:58pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

Where would the savvy investor put their money?

82 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:36:30pm

GoFundMe has apparently shut down the donation pages for Darren Wilson.

83 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 8:37:22pm

re: #70 BeachDem

I have to go to Brownsville next month for work. What with the National Guard, the Border Patrol and the militias, I can’t decide whether to take my passport or buy a flak jacket.

My advice is spend as much time on the Chicano side of town as you can. You may get your arse kicked once or twice by the cops, but the cuisine will be well worth it. ;-)

84 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:37:39pm

re: #76 Pie-onist Overlord

It looked totally fake, like a stage set. It bothered me enough that I had to stop watching.

That’s funny—when we saw it in the theater, I got all excited about the locations because I had been to some of them. Totally bored my brother-in-law when we got home from the movie, making him look at all my photos of the Neuschwanstein Castle in Bavaria. Did you look at the location list at imdb? A lot of it was shot at authentic sites.

85 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:37:44pm

But…

86 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 8:38:02pm

Interesting.

87 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 8:41:19pm
88 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:43:34pm

re: #86 Gus

A perfect example of how hypocritical and irrational the Snowden cult is. These people are not serious - they’re play-acting.

89 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 8:43:40pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

GoFundMe has apparently shut down the donation pages for Darren Wilson.

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400 grand. That’s a nice haul. I could live off of money like that for the rest of my life.

90 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:44:39pm

re: #77 Lidane

Both. Just try and buy a lightweight flak jacket that’s made for desert conditions. It’s most likely going to be hot as hell down there.

Thanks for the advice—good thing I’m used to a hot (humid) climate! If it’s desert, it will be a relief of sorts.

91 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:44:44pm

re: #86 Gus

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Interesting.

That second Tweet is because this happened today. Some hacker broke into the accounts of a number female celebrities and made off with some risque photos, with Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton heading the list of those hacked.

92 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 8:45:39pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

That second Tweet is because this happened today. Some hacker broke into the accounts of a number female celebrities and made off with some risque photos, with Jennifer Lawrence and Kate Upton heading the list of those hacked.

Yeah, I know.

93 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 8:47:46pm

re: #87 teleskiguy

My head is on fire!

Maybe it’s the beer talking, but that gif is hypnotic.

94 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 8:48:45pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

A perfect example of how hypocritical and irrational the Snowden cult is. These people are not serious - they’re play-acting.

But the actresses and models are different, because they’re women, so its OK for dudebros to hack their devices so the DBs can stare at their nude selfies.

But when the government spies on a dudebro its the Worst. Outrage. EVER.

Have I captured the mindset of the dudebro correctly?

95 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:48:48pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

GoFundMe has apparently shut down the donation pages for Darren Wilson.

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ChuckyC says it’s TYRANNY!!!!

96 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 8:50:30pm

The word tyranny has really gotten an unjustified workout over the past few years.

97 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 8:51:46pm

You know what’s tyranny? No, C. C. Johnson, you don’t.

98 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:53:55pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

My advice is spend as much time on the Chicano side of town as you can. You may get your arse kicked once or twice by the cops, but the cuisine will be well worth it. ;-)

Can’t wait for the food; hope I get to eat a few good meals—will be working out of La Plaza downtown and, if it’s like most of of my projects, will be eating many vending machine meals, working 16+ hour days.

99 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 8:54:05pm
100 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 8:55:07pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

But when the government spies on a dudebro its the Worst. Outrage. EVER.

Have I captured the mindset of the dudebro correctly?

You captured dudebro speak perfectly, but the color green is liberal!!!!1!!!

101 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 8:58:49pm

re: #97 jaunte

You know what’s tyranny? No, C. C. Johnson, you don’t.

Add it to the list of things the little twit doesn’t know. He’s like an annoying gnat.

102 darthstar  Aug 31, 2014 8:59:49pm

Rick Perry drunk-tweets? Wow…maybe he is part human.

103 Chez Ko Pe  Aug 31, 2014 8:59:52pm

(jimcarrey) “It wasn’t me! It was the one-armed man!” (/jimcarrey)

104 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 9:00:29pm

re: #96 jaunte

The word tyranny has really gotten an unjustified workout over the past few years.

No shit.

105 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 9:04:02pm
106 goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2014 9:04:32pm

That fuckin’ progressive liberal machine is at it again!

107 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 9:07:17pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

No shit.

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Whenever I hear a totalitarian state bragging about their 100% literacy rate, I think well that’s nice, but are they allowed to read 100% of everything that’s been printed?

108 darthstar  Aug 31, 2014 9:09:14pm

#A2 will be a hashtag on every Rick Perry tweet I post for the foreseeable future.

109 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 9:09:50pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

That fuckin’ progressive liberal machine is at it again!

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“and why was he indicated?” An English Firster no doubt.

110 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 9:10:14pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

A progressive liberal machine? In Texas?

Youtube Video

111 darthstar  Aug 31, 2014 9:11:56pm
112 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 9:12:23pm
113 Kragar  Aug 31, 2014 9:12:48pm

re: #112 jaunte

Texas progressive liberal machine

COME AT ME BRO!

114 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 9:12:53pm

Sanity Claws!

115 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 9:13:21pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

That fuckin’ progressive liberal machine is at it again!

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“indicated”

HAHAHA!!!

116 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 9:20:32pm

re: #105 Gus

I had to Google her to even figure out who she is.

117 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 9:22:51pm

College Humor nails it:

Youtube Video

118 KiTA  Aug 31, 2014 9:24:21pm

Odd thought… Any chem majors out there? Or maybe a geology buff I what I am thinking of?

I’ve been reading earth history lately and have a question.

If we have all that methane trapped in ice and permafrost… And methane reacts with oxygen to turn onto H2O and CO2… How bad would losing all that methane to the air be for oxygen levels in our atmosphere?

There was some theory about how the Earth might have two stable points for oxygenation - 20% (current), and like 0.02% (pre-photosnthesys / the oxygen catastrophe). Could we all be worrying about global warming in vain when really we’re all going to choke to death from lack of oxygen? Or is there just not near enough methane in that ice/permafrost/etc to harm the O2 levels?

119 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 9:24:42pm

My friend from Steamboat - who introduced me to all kinds of blues music when I was ski bummin’ it there in my early 20s - is at this show. I’m jealous.

120 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 9:26:22pm

re: #70 BeachDem

I have to go to Brownsville next month for work. What with the National Guard, the Border Patrol and the militias, I can’t decide whether to take my passport or buy a flak jacket.

Have fun, but you might wanna watch out for that Brownsville Grrrl
videos.sapo.pt

121 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 9:26:36pm

re: #119 teleskiguy

I’ve played Red Rocks many times - awesome venue.

122 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 9:27:23pm
123 b_sharp  Aug 31, 2014 9:28:00pm

re: #118 KiTA

Odd thought… Any chem majors out there? Or maybe a geology buff I what I am thinking of?

I’ve been reading earth history lately and have a question.

If we have all that methane trapped in ice and permafrost… And methane reacts with oxygen to turn onto H2O and CO2… How bad would losing all that methane to the air be for oxygen levels in our atmosphere?

There was some theory about how the Earth might have two stable points for oxygenation - 20% (current), and like 0.02% (pre-photosnthesys / the oxygen catastrophe). Could we all be worrying about global warming in vain when really we’re all going to choke to death from lack of oxygen? Or is there just not near enough methane in that ice/permafrost/etc to harm the O2 levels?

Not enough to worry about oxy levels. We have a biosphere that produces oxy so the 0.02% will never happen without something more extreme than methane happening.

124 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 9:28:20pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I’ve played Red Rocks many times - awesome venue.

I’ve seen several artists perform there, and the best was John Prine. A man, a guitar, and a million images. Absolutely brilliant.

125 Gus  Aug 31, 2014 9:29:32pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

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Snowdenbots are strange people.

126 sagehen  Aug 31, 2014 9:31:03pm

BOOK REC:

I just finished “Blackout” and “All Clear” by Connie Willis… OMG IT’S WONDERFUL!!

It’s the most recent in her Oxford time travel ouevre, intricately plotted, ties all the previous books into one cohesive timeline, also a detailed look at WWII UK (from the civilian POV, multiple facets thereof), and humor. You don’t have to have read any of the previous books to understand it, but there’s an extra layer of enjoyment if you have.

Also, I now want to buy two parrots, and name them Alf and Binnie.

127 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 9:32:39pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I’ve played Red Rocks many times - awesome venue.

Hell yeah! With who? I’m guessing George Duke and Al Jarreau.

My father saw The Beatles there in 1964. Our family still owns property right there in Morrison. In fact, my grandfather founded the Morrison Volunteer Fire Department in 1946.

I can still recall my grandfather recounting the late 60s and early 70s at Red Rocks. My grandfather is one of the main reasons it’s an arrest-able offense to climb the rocks (with possible $1000 fine) because one summer in those days like 9 kids died.

Charles, I’ve respected you and LGF for a long time now. Now that I know that you’ve played music on the Red Rocks stage, I respect you more!

128 goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2014 9:34:17pm

What is this I don’t even

What the fuck is a fake grand jury? How the hell would it indict somebody?

129 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 9:36:48pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

What the fuck is a fake grand jury? How the hell would it indict somebody?

Fake grand jury = one created by the mythical progressive librul machine that runs everything here in Texas.

130 ausador  Aug 31, 2014 9:39:11pm

Having fun watching the twitter and site page comment slap fight between conservative tree house and got news. Tree House is claiming CCJ plagerized their article from three days ago for his big “bombshell” today.

charlescjohnson • 19 minutes ago

The problem is that we didn’t steal anything. It was a co-discovery. Neither Shannon, nor I have ever been to his site. He has my number. I’m happy to talk to him about but he owes us an apology.


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Mark Miller • 39 minutes ago

Why aren’t you crediting The Last Refuge theconservativetreehous… ? People at that site are the ones who have tirelessly gathered, analyzed, discussed, and posted all of the information on Ferguson that the old media have refused to reporrt. While it’s nice that you wish to spread the news, you are asking for money for work that is not your own. Have you no shame?


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Worc1 • an hour ago

If you are going to use material from another blog, in this case The Last Refuge aka The Conservitive Treehouse, the least you could do is to credit them for the research. Stealing is wrong and you should be ashamed of yourself, Chuck Johnson.

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charlescjohnson • an hour ago

The problem here is that we had before he did….


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Jester charlescjohnson • 22 minutes ago

Orly? You lifted some of those photos from theconservativetreehouse which is obvious because they are superimposed with labels and arrows in Sundance’s style, and of course they were up on his site on 8/28. If you didn’t lift those photos yourself, then whoever sent them to you sure as hell did.

You claim to be about truth? Prove it.

131 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 9:41:03pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

Played there with George Duke, Stanley Clarke, Al Jarreau (more than once) and Hiroshima.

132 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 31, 2014 9:41:37pm

re: #70 BeachDem

I spent some years in Kingsville, about one hundred miles north of Brownsville. Bring mosquito repellent, rain gear, and your least-uncomfortable clothes for hot, humid weather.

133 BongCrodny  Aug 31, 2014 9:46:18pm

re: #130 ausador

Having fun watching the twitter and site page comment slap fight between conservative tree house and got news. Tree House is claiming CCJ plagerized their article from three days ago for his big “bombshell” today.

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He’s an AWARD-WINNING plagiarist!

134 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 9:47:04pm

re: #130 ausador

I was following that bitchslapfest for awhile, until I developed a massive headache. Note—ChuckyC never addresses the photos he used, except to say that somebody else sent them. Now he’s being LIBELED!!!

And when all is said and done, both he and the people he’s arguing with are a bunch of right wing losers, so there’s that. (But thanks for condensing and posting the highlowlights

135 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 9:47:28pm

Why do I get the feeling that this is just stealth advertisement for Charles C. Johnson’s kickass rendition of CC Rider?

Until that fateful day, we’ll just have to settle for Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels

Youtube Video

Eat your heart out Sam Samudio! //

136 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 9:48:52pm

re: #132 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I spent some years in Kingsville, about one hundred miles north of Brownsville. Bring mosquito repellent, rain gear, and your least-uncomfortable clothes for hot, humid weather.

You make it sound so appealing, I can hardly wait! Glad I’ll only be there for about a week.

137 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 9:49:05pm

138 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 9:54:32pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

TYRANNY!

139 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 9:54:40pm

re: #136 BeachDem

You make it sound so appealing, I can hardly wait! Glad I’ll only be there for about a week.

Just a week? That’s hardly enough time to soak in the grand panorama of kitsch that is Brownsville. //

140 Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2014 9:55:34pm
141 jaunte  Aug 31, 2014 9:57:27pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Bald eagle feathers all over the highway!

Sides, hurting.

142 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 10:00:43pm

re: #139 De Kolta Chair

Just a week? That’s hardly enough time to soak in the grand panorama of kitsch that is Brownsville. //

I’ll just have to make do, I guess. //

All the people I’ve talked to so far from down there have been super nice, so I can put up with icky weather if I’m working with good folks.

143 ausador  Aug 31, 2014 10:02:23pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Funny CCJ later tweeted that he had never even been to conservative tree house’s site. But only ten minutes after the article accusing him of plagiarism went up he posted a response in the comments there.

That is pretty fast damn work, so somebody tweeted him or emailed him about the article, and he got there and read it, logged in and commented all in 10 minutes???

Yeah right, tell me another one CCJ…

144 BeachDem  Aug 31, 2014 10:03:23pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

Youtube Video

145 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 10:03:33pm

re: #142 BeachDem

I’ll just have to make do, I guess. //

All the people I’ve talked to so far from down there have been super nice, so I can put up with icky weather if I’m working with good folks.

I kid, but I’m seriously jealous that you’re probably going to be savoring some damn fine tamales and chili peppers.

146 gwangung  Aug 31, 2014 10:05:49pm

re: #134 BeachDem

I was following that bitchslapfest for awhile, until I developed a massive headache. Note—ChuckyC never addresses the photos he used, except to say that somebody else sent them. Now he’s being LIBELED!!!

For an award winning “journalist”, he’s sure unfamiliar with basic journalistic IP law. If he publishes without making sure he has rights, he can, quite legally, be liable for plagiarism or theft.

That’s liable, not libel, Chucky Doofus.

147 Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2014 10:06:37pm

re: #145 De Kolta Chair

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148 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 10:10:33pm

re: #147 Amory Blaine

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The father of Chicano music, “Papa” Lalo Guerrero, one of the finest folks whom I’ve had the pleasure to meet. What a sweet soulful man he was.
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149 Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2014 10:13:05pm

One thing I don’t think got notice here yesterday was that it wasn’t just Republicans who were calling to arm Ukraine. Senator Menendez of New Jersey was saying that as well.

150 teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2014 10:16:16pm

75 YEARS AGO

151 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 31, 2014 10:26:06pm

re: #142 BeachDem

Some nice folks down that way and, as De Kolta Chair mentioned above, some damned good food.

152 wheat-dogghazi  Aug 31, 2014 10:34:34pm

Hello, lizardim! Greetings from the Middle Kingdom once again. I got back to my humble abode in Central China the night before last, and have mostly recovered from jetlag. I had a great month visiting family and friends in the USA and Toronto, and for the most part took a furlough from LGF.

Now I’m back, and already I can see the RWNJ noise machine and “post-racist America” have not changed much since last month.

153 ausador  Aug 31, 2014 10:45:51pm

Oh dear god, why?…

Thanks for the warning, I guess…

154 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 10:54:44pm

re: #151 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Some nice folks down that way and, as De Kolta Chair mentioned above, some damned good food.

Whenever people say “Let Texas secede!” I usually respond “Can we keep the Pecos River?” Awfully pretty country.

155 wheat-dogghazi  Aug 31, 2014 10:57:11pm

re: #153 ausador

That’s something I’d expect from a clueless non-English speaker, not from someone who’s apparently American. (Because who else but an American would tattoo that design on her chest?)

156 De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2014 10:59:27pm

“A tweet just went out from my account that was unauthorized. I do not condone the tweet and I have taken it down.”

Perry doesn’t believe in the “who smelt it dealt it” theory, I assume?

157 zerosumgame0005  Aug 31, 2014 11:12:23pm

re: #17 lawhawk

only effective if the cops have no control over them, and any time they are blocked it should be assumed they were doing something that want to hide.

158 Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2014 11:21:12pm

President Obama is going to be in Milwaukee for Laborfest tomorrow and I unfortunately have to work. Mary Burke will not be appearing with Obama, which has all the local RWNJ in a tizzy of course.

159 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 11:21:14pm
160 Lidane  Aug 31, 2014 11:25:15pm

And on a more serious note:

161 ausador  Aug 31, 2014 11:38:25pm

Well, he seems to be the only polling pundit with a positive forecast for the Democrats at this stage of the race. I guess we will see what the post Labor Day polls show and if that causes any of the other data crunchers to alter their forecast. In the meantime I’m not going to get my hopes up…

Why Democrats will keep the Senate: A contrarian analysis of the 2014 midterms

Sam Wang gives Democrats a 72 percent chance of keeping control of the Senate. It’s not a widely held view, but he did accurately predict every Senate race in 2012. Here’s why the pundits may be underestimating Democrats this year.

162 ausador  Aug 31, 2014 11:48:14pm
163 Amory Blaine  Sep 1, 2014 12:36:58am

How to Buy a Mine in Wisconsin
Did Gov. Scott Walker Violate Campaign Laws?

Last year, Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and the Republican-controlled State Legislature approved the world’s largest open-pit iron ore mine, a gash in the northern part of the state that could be as long as 21 miles, a half-mile wide and 1,000 feet deep.

The mine legislation was bad enough from an environmental point of view: It allows the operator to fill streams with mine waste, eliminates public hearings and reduces the taxes the operator would have to pay.

It turns out to be even more shocking from an ethical viewpoint. Newly released documents show that the mine operator, Gogebic Taconite, secretly gave $700,000 to a political group that was helping the governor win a 2012 recall election. Mr. Walker had urged big corporations to give unlimited amounts, without fear of public disclosure, and many companies that wanted favors from the state happily obliged. Once the recall failed, the favors began to flow, even at the expense of the state’s natural resources.

164 freetoken  Sep 1, 2014 12:46:00am

re: #160 Lidane

PETTICOAT RULE!!

165 freetoken  Sep 1, 2014 12:48:35am
166 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 1:23:00am

Bwahahahahaha…

Gawker: Ayn Rand’s Capitalist Paradise Is Now a Greedy Land-Grabbing Shitstorm

Atlas Shrugged readers remember Galt’s Gulch as the rural refuge where Ayn Rand’s Real Men of Genius spurned American socialism for their own anti-leftist paradise. Some inspired libertarians have set up a real-life Galt’s Gulch in Chile. Unregulated capitalism, though, is presenting some problems!

…But all is not so sweet. Wendy McElroy, a “Canadian individualist anarchist” of some note, bought a 1.25-acre plot in Galt’s Gulch Chile last year, or so she thought. She wrote a blistering post Monday suggesting that the Real Men of Genius behind the settlement are grifters, or incompetents, or both:

You too can buy a 1200 acre “Master Estate” for a mere $500,000, but only if you pony up a $2,000,000 “Founders Club” loan to the developers first. After that you can settle in to enjoy your new freedumbs, however there may still be a small problem.

The land is in arid desert scrub brush country and they don’t own the water rights to almost all of the land they are selling. So I’m not quite sure what you’ll be able to do with your land after you buy it…

Grifters and Glibertarians, a match made in heaven. ;)

167 Frenchy  Sep 1, 2014 1:29:24am

So how is the ramp-up to Gov. Perry’s 2016 presidential bid going? Seems like he’s on fire here lately.

168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 1:29:46am

re: #166 ausador

The land is in arid desert scrub brush country and they don’t own the water rights to almost all of the land they are selling. So I’m not quite sure what you’ll be able to do with your land after you buy it…

Grifters and Glibertarians, a match made in heaven. ;)

Water rights? These people are Masters! They TAKE what they need!!!

169 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 1:30:13am

re: #153 ausador

Oh dear god, why?…

Thanks for the warning, I guess…

Same reason guys kept waking up in the barracks, going “WTF?”. Booze.

170 Frenchy  Sep 1, 2014 1:32:43am

Chuck C. Johnson sure does get libeled a lot. Isn’t this the 3rd time I’ve seen him claim libel when accused of stealing other people’s work?

Hey Chuck, even other conservatives think you’re scum.

171 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 1:44:02am

I missed this one from two weeks ago, sure not going to go looking just to see if the honeypot site is still up. (at least not from my home IP)

172 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 2:00:58am

For any fellow fan of the work of architect Philip Johnson around here, the Glass House is featured but other designs are shown too. (3:22)

Youtube Video

173 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 2:21:17am

Actually 20 gifs and 2 pictures, seriously cool stuff mostly, not your usual disappointingly lame buzzfeed click bait.

22 Pictures That Prove We’re Living In The Damn Future

174 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 2:24:35am

re: #173 ausador

Actually 20 gifs and 2 pictures, seriously cool stuff mostly, not your usual disappointingly lame buzzfeed click bait.

22 Pictures That Prove We’re Living In The Damn Future

Where are the hoverboards?

175 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 2:28:45am

More good news on the economic front…

176 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 2:47:49am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Where are the hoverboards?

Damn you gravity!

I think the drone that follows you and keeps you in the camera shot is pretty slick. No need for an equally skilled sport cameraman outfitted the same as you or in a helicopter to film yourself skiing, surfing, mountain biking, doing motocross, or whatever else.

177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 3:13:43am

re: #176 ausador

Damn you gravity!

I think the drone that follows you and keeps you in the camera shot is pretty slick. No need for an equally skilled sport cameraman outfitted the same as you or in a helicopter to film yourself skiing, surfing, mountain biking, doing motocross, or whatever else.

…except hoverboarding.

178 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 3:21:43am

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Saw this article and part of it seemed to be something you might be interested in:

Ukraine war pulls in foreign fighters

Image: _77262583_023432766-1.jpg
Rafa Munoz Perez, a Spaniard serving with the rebels in Donetsk, wears a Spanish Republic wristband

The rifle shown is a ‘Century’ series AK, chambered in 5.45mm.

It would seem to me however, that those seeking to remember the Republican side of the Spanish Civil War would fight for the Ukraine.

The Republican side of the war wasn’t one side. They hated each other about as much as they hated Franco. That turned out well.

179 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 3:25:02am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

…except hoverboarding.

It’s simple, just build a gravity repulsor strong enough and a power source small enough and then you can go hoverboarding all you want. Show some initiative and do things for yourself for a change! [/motherlecturevoice]

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180 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 3:28:18am

re: #179 ausador

It’s simple, just build a gravity repulsor strong enough and a power source small enough and then you can go hoverboarding all you want. Show some initiative and do things for yourself for a change! [/motherlecturevoice]

///

If we just connect the flux capacitor to this lightning rod and wait for the storm…

181 Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2014 4:44:23am

re: #70 BeachDem

Just stay out on SPI and enjoy the beach and the shrimp at Dirty Al’s. No Problems…

182 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 4:46:31am

Damn trolls…people who only reply because they like hurting people suck, period.

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 1, 2014 5:43:08am

re: #126 sagehen

BOOK REC:

I just finished “Blackout” and “All Clear” by Connie Willis… OMG IT’S WONDERFUL!!

It’s the most recent in her Oxford time travel ouevre, intricately plotted, ties all the previous books into one cohesive timeline, also a detailed look at WWII UK (from the civilian POV, multiple facets thereof), and humor. You don’t have to have read any of the previous books to understand it, but there’s an extra layer of enjoyment if you have.

Also, I now want to buy two parrots, and name them Alf and Binnie.

I read them a while back. Don’t consider them Willis’ best, but the historical work and research was obviously first class.

184 PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2014 5:53:17am

Happy Labor Day to my fellow Lizards. Here is my page on the day. littlegreenfootballs.com

185 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 6:06:03am
186 FemNaziBitch  Sep 1, 2014 6:20:59am

In the next room, Feral Girl just caught the Feline Overlord.

I’m on my first cuppa and just can’t fathom the havoc she has created.

It doesn’t sound good for her, literally.

you?

187 FemNaziBitch  Sep 1, 2014 6:22:22am

re: #185 Lidane

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Unions!! without them, employers wouldn’t have to let their employees leave their post

188 FemNaziBitch  Sep 1, 2014 6:24:57am

re: #126 sagehen

BOOK REC:

I just finished “Blackout” and “All Clear” by Connie Willis… OMG IT’S WONDERFUL!!

It’s the most recent in her Oxford time travel ouevre, intricately plotted, ties all the previous books into one cohesive timeline, also a detailed look at WWII UK (from the civilian POV, multiple facets thereof), and humor. You don’t have to have read any of the previous books to understand it, but there’s an extra layer of enjoyment if you have.

Also, I now want to buy two parrots, and name them Alf and Binnie.

Absolutely on my top 10 list. I learned so much about the Blitz from those books. I loved the way she wove everything together. I still think about some of the characters sometimes.

Been watching the series, Foyle’s War, on Netflix. Brought the books back to me in detail.

189 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 6:35:59am

re: #155 wheat-dogghazi

That’s something I’d expect from a clueless non-English speaker, not from someone who’s apparently American. (Because who else but an American would tattoo that design on her chest?)

An Englishman. The Brits have some ugly tattoos of their own.

190 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 6:39:10am
191 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 6:41:56am

re: #163 Amory Blaine

How to Buy a Mine in Wisconsin
Did Gov. Scott Walker Violate Campaign Laws?

One thing to remember is that contributions to the 2012 recall election in Wisconsin were unlimited per Wisconsin law. That law in fact predated Scott Walker ever having held public office. So ‘unlimited corporate contributions’ to groups aiding his campaign were legal. It’s noteworthy that despite the media sniping, no charges have been filed against the governor, nor has are any likely to be.

192 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 6:44:47am

Happy Quasi-Canadian-Crypto-Communist Day!

193 Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2014 6:45:45am

re: #68 Gus

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LOLWut?

Runny, poached, or hard boiled.

194 Flounder  Sep 1, 2014 6:47:07am

Thank God for Labor Day! When else can I get 20% off already over priced Carhartt pants!!!!

195 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 6:53:30am

re: #192 Gus

I love all the conservative wailing and gnashing of teeth about Labor Day. It shows just how petty and out of touch they are.

196 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 6:57:52am

re: #195 Lidane

I love all the conservative wailing and gnashing of teeth about Labor Day. It shows just how petty and out of touch they are.

Just think of all the millions being spent today by corporate Murica through ‘think tanks’ and freedom loving liberty fetishing right wing blogs spouting anti-union bullshit.

Then think about grilling some asparagus and maybe cracking some Pabst open.

Murica!

197 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 6:58:53am

re: #195 Lidane

I love all the conservative wailing and gnashing of teeth about Labor Day. It shows just how petty and out of touch they are.

National Review is for intellectuals! //

198 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 7:02:35am

re: #196 Ryan King

I really wonder what they expect to accomplish by pissing all over Labor Day.

Do they really think people are going to give up a paid three day weekend because unions?

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 7:08:13am

re: #198 Lidane

I really wonder what they expect to accomplish by pissing all over Labor Day.

Do they really think people are going to give up a paid three day weekend because unions?

It is government overreach for them to tell us when we can have time off. or that we can time off at all, paid or unpaid. because freedomz

200 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 7:16:16am
201 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 7:19:59am

re: #195 Lidane

I love all the conservative wailing and gnashing of teeth about Labor Day. It shows just how petty and out of touch they are.

Williamson wasn’t wailing, he was just smacking organized labor around like a hockey puck.

202 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:21:27am

re: #200 Gus

203 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:23:49am

re: #195 Lidane

I love all the conservative wailing and gnashing of teeth about Labor Day. It shows just how petty and out of touch they are.

Good article about what’s happened as a result of shrinking Unions here

204 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 7:24:14am

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

No, he was being an out of touch, petty little man.

Conservatives should be on their knees thanking unions for all the things they take for granted like paid vacation, weekends, 8-hour work days and sick leave. Instead they use everything labor unions provided for them and act like they were the ones who came up with the idea.

205 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:27:05am

re: #197 Gus

National Review is for intellectuals! //

Williamson is a highly educated and articulate moron:

The Left sees inequality as a cause of economic facts, not an effect of them. As EPI sees things, inequality is an independent actor, a motive force in world affairs: It is not only a “determinant” of economic conditions but “by far the most important determinant”; it has, under its own steam, “blocked living standards growth for the vast majority”; and it is “the key driver behind stagnant wages for workers at the bottom.” This is a deeply weird view of how the world actually works: The Left thinks that inequality is not a mere measure of relative incomes or wealth but something that does things in the world, something that acts — and not only acts but acts decisively, determining Americans’ economic prospects. This sort of flatly preposterous analysis is the unfortunate effect of mistaking the map for the territory and the model for the thing modeled, the kind of magical thinking that causes people to believe that Superman could turn back time by reversing the rotation of the Earth.

Oh, we got it all backwards. Inequality is the result of lack of restrained capitalisms. Because.

Similar magical thinking infects the Left’s ideas about unions. Unions are in decline practically everywhere in the private sector, in no small part because the thuggish, corrupt, rapacious leadership of U.S. industrial unions helped to diminish or outright destroy the industries they once were associated with. Unions live on mainly in government work. But that is good enough for EPI to conclude that a renaissance of unionization is desirable: “This policy choice is clear when one looks at the evidence… . Unionization has held up much better in the public sector, where employers have less ability to fight organizing drives.” What else might distinguish public-sector employers from, say, General Motors? The main thing is a complete lack of competitors and, most important, the ability to command revenue from the public at gunpoint via taxation. This is not true of, say, McDonald’s.

And this is where I stopped reading. Unions destroyed their industries and taxation is always at gunpoint, common populist moron talking points.

What passes for intellectualism isn’t: you make a wordy analysis of something, parse some data sets, then make your contrarian case by dropping some talking points, instead of spending the rhetoric to explain in depth your talking points. This is just new words and paragraphs on new information but saying the same thing over and over.

206 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 7:28:50am

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

Williamson wasn’t wailing, he was just smacking organized labor around like a hockey puck.

He should know. Being that he’s a hockey puck himself.

207 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:29:34am
208 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 7:29:49am

re: #205 Ryan King

Williamson must get paid by the word. That’s the only explanation for using so many words to say nothing of value.

209 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 7:30:10am

When groups of individuals band together to found a corporation = GOOD THING

When groups of individuals band together to form a union to negotiate on equal terms with corporation = RAPACIOUS THUGS

Got it.

210 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:30:11am

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving motherfucker:

Dick Cheney be freaking out and shit.

Powell himself called Cheney’s criticism “cheap shots” during an interview this past Sunday on CBS News’ Face the Nation.

What really sort of got my attention was this way in which he characterized it: it’s going to ‘cause heads to explode,’” Powell said. “That’s quite a visual. And in fact, it’s the kind of headline I would expect to come out of a gossip columnist, or the kind of headline you might see one of the supermarket tabloids write. It’s not the kind of headline I would have expected to come from a former vice president of the United States of America.

Before serving as Powell’s chief of staff while Powell was Secretary of State, Wilkerson worked in the first Bush administration as a special assistant to Powell, who was then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Cheney was serving as Secretary of Defense. He’s known Cheney for decades, but says now, “I simply don’t recognize Mr. Cheney anymore” and calling him a “very vindictive person.”

I think he’s just trying to, one, assert himself so he’s not in some subsequent time period tried for war crimes and, second, so that he somehow vindicates himself because he feels like he needs vindication. That in itself tells you something about him,” Wilkerson told ABC News

Link to article in this tweet:

211 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 7:30:20am

Organized Labor: Bad
Organized Corporations: Good

Guess who’s still winning too?

Yeah, those union laborers are living the high life.

212 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:31:41am

re: #211 Gus

Organized Labor: Bad
Organized Corporations: Good

Guess who’s still winning too?

Yeah, those union laborers are living the high life.

The irony is, corporations wouldn’t be where they are if it hadn’t been for organized labor helping them get there.

213 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:32:56am
214 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:33:40am

re: #212 darthstar

The irony is, corporations wouldn’t be where they are if it hadn’t been for organized labor helping them get there.

If corporations are persons, so are unions. Or at least the crazy uncle.

215 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 7:34:49am

re: #205 Ryan King

Williamson is a highly educated and articulate moron:

Oh, we got it all backwards. Inequality is the result of lack of restrained capitalisms. Because.

And this is where I stopped reading. Unions destroyed their industries and taxation is always at gunpoint, common populist moron talking points.

What passes for intellectualism isn’t: you make a wordy analysis of something, parse some data sets, then make your contrarian case by dropping some talking points, instead of spending the rhetoric to explain in depth your talking points. This is just new words and paragraphs on new information but saying the same thing over and over.

Williamson said “unions helped to diminish or outright destroy the industries they once were associated with”, he did not assign them the full blame or even most of it. I’m sure Williamson, like anyone who honestly examines the matter, would attribute an even larger part of the decline of the US auto industry to piss-poor executive leadership.

216 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 7:35:07am

And on this Labor Day we must also remember to pause and reflect with a moment of silence for the struggling billionaires.

217 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 7:36:21am

re: #214 Ryan King

If corporations are persons, so are unions. Or at least the crazy uncle.

According to the Supreme Court, that is correct. A labor union is legally a person.

218 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:39:40am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Williamson said “unions helped to diminish or outright destroy the industries they once were associated with”, he did not assign them the full blame or even most of it. I’m sure Williamson, like anyone who honestly examines the matter, would attribute an even larger part of the decline of the US auto industry to piss-poor executive leadership.

Dark, he said this:

Unions are in decline practically everywhere in the private sector, in no small part because the thuggish, corrupt, rapacious leadership of U.S. industrial unions helped to diminish or outright destroy the industries they once were associated with.

He posted this on Labor Day, no less. You’re interpretation of his words are much different than mine.

219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 7:40:01am

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

According to the Supreme Court, that is correct. A labor union is legally a person.

The distinction is that neither union nor corporation is an individual, or a member of a family with basic physical needs and requirements to live.

If a corporation or union fails, it is dissolved and its assets sold off to the highest bidder, its debts passed on to its creditors.

Of course, there are many who would like to see that happen to individuals and families…

220 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 7:40:42am

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

One thing to remember is that contributions to the 2012 recall election in Wisconsin were unlimited per Wisconsin law. That law in fact predated Scott Walker ever having held public office. So ‘unlimited corporate contributions’ to groups aiding his campaign were legal. It’s noteworthy that despite the media sniping, no charges have been filed against the governor, nor has are any likely to be.

Legal =/= moral or ethical. The GOP thrives on that and uses it’s gerrymandering to accomplish more of the same, DF. Walker should be roommates with Blagovitch though Blago isn’t as bad a person.

(Aside - I personally know Scott Walker, I do not know Blago. I hope he is not as dumb and immoral a person as I have seen Scott Walker to be.)

221 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:42:07am

Does this mean a scotch distillery is a person?

What about an Extreme Competitive Crocheting league?

This is awesome.

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 7:42:57am

from salon: Why white men hate unions: The South, the new workforce and the GOP war on your self-interest

Labor & white men once stood united. Now they’re across a political divide thanks to decades-long war of confusion

223 Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2014 7:43:26am

re: #17 lawhawk

Good. That’s a step in the right direction.

224 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 7:43:53am

Reminder: Kevin Williamson is the same dipshit who said that men select mates for fertility and women for status.

225 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 7:47:39am

re: #220 William Barnett-Lewis

And down here in Illinois its the Democrats who’ve used gerrymandering shamelessly to ‘lock in’ their office-holders.

Gerrymandering is itself a problem and it corrupts any political party who uses it. It’s the political equivalent of the One Ring of Sauron handed out: Giving power to its user, but ultimately corrupting them beyond recognition. And like the one ring, it cannot be wield for good and must be destroyed.

226 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:47:55am

re: #224 Lidane

Oh, wow.

227 Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2014 7:48:03am

re: #53 Pie-onist Overlord

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Because they are full racists.

228 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 7:48:28am
229 Snarknado!  Sep 1, 2014 7:48:32am

re: #203 darthstar

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t stand for “round table” here, so just what DOES RT stand for?

230 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 7:51:29am
231 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:53:01am

re: #229 Snarknado!

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t stand for “round table” here, so just what DOES RT stand for?

Retweet. People add RT when they’re quoting another.

232 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:53:48am

Today Show’s resident muscle dork is still digging:

233 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:56:08am
234 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 7:58:03am

re: #228 Lidane

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George Pullman: Possibly the biggest impact asshole in the history of American industry.

235 Snarknado!  Sep 1, 2014 7:58:35am

re: #231 darthstar

Retweet. People add RT when they’re quoting another.

Thanks, I saw US RT. (Punctuation is your friend…)

236 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:58:53am

So it turns out Apple’s iCloudFind my iPhone service didn’t limit login attempts, so the actress above and others who had photos leaked by 4chan scum were simply the victims of brute force logins. Apparently someone posted the code illustrating the vulnerability on github a day before all the accounts were hacked.

zdnet.com

237 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 7:59:19am

re: #235 Snarknado!

Thanks, I saw US RT. (Punctuation is you friend…)

Yes, but punctuation isn’t everyone’s friend, apparently.

238 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 8:00:09am

Sorry…find my iphone, not cloud, service.

239 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 1, 2014 8:01:43am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

George Pullman: Possibly the biggest impact asshole in the history of American industry.

6 Most Horrific Bosses Of All Time

240 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 8:09:46am

re: #220 William Barnett-Lewis

Legal =/= moral or ethical. The GOP thrives on that and uses it’s gerrymandering to accomplish more of the same, DF. Walker should be roommates with Blagovitch though Blago isn’t as bad a person.

(Aside - I personally know Scott Walker, I do not know Blago. I hope he is not as dumb and immoral a person as I have seen Scott Walker to be.)

Dark is busy excusing Walker with “but it is legal” that he seems to forget “but is it right.”

Not to mention that good old “impression” it leaves in the minds of Wisconsin citizens.

241 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 8:21:15am

re: #240 ObserverArt

As long as his team scores a ‘W’ it doesn’t matter…policies don’t matter, services don’t matter, it’s just keeping the win average above .500 that matters.

242 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 8:22:37am
243 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 8:23:47am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Auto-downding for defending Williamson in public.

244 CuriousLurker  Sep 1, 2014 8:27:17am

OT Drive-by - Interesting:

245 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 8:27:34am

re: #240 ObserverArt

As for that ‘impression’, if Walker had tried to be open about everything, doing more than the law required, the Dems would have just used the disclosures to go after him: “ZOMG, he got this donation from Koch Transportation!!1” (Which is a part of Koch Industries, though the drivers for that trucking company are Teamsters)..

The Dmeocrats would have attacked Scott Walker no matter what he did, because they want their own person to be governor of Wisconsin. Such is politics, and so shall it be till we all shall fall.

246 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 8:27:57am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

George Pullman: Possibly the biggest impact asshole in the history of American industry.

There were far worse. Carnegie & Frick for an example.

247 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 8:29:56am

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

Problem is that Scooter is one of those who only tells the truth by accident. Sooner that Koch puppet is no longer stealing a salary from the people of Wisconsin, the better.

248 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 8:30:42am

re: #244 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by - Interesting:

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RIP Charles Bowden. I didn’t always like his writing, but not because it wasn’t good.

249 EmmaAnne  Sep 1, 2014 8:31:12am

re: #153 ausador

Oh dear god, why?…

Thanks for the warning, I guess…

Please tell me this is photoshopped. PLEASE!

250 CuriousLurker  Sep 1, 2014 8:35:05am

re: #248 wrenchwench

RIP Charles Bowden. I didn’t always like his writing, but not because it wasn’t good.

Today is the first time I’d heard of him. I wasn’t even aware that he just died.

251 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 8:39:07am

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

As for that ‘impression’, if Walker had tried to be open about everything, doing more than the law required, the Dems would have just used the disclosures to go after him: “ZOMG, he got this donation from Koch Transportation!!1” (Which is a part of Koch Industries, though the drivers for that trucking company are Teamsters)..

The Dmeocrats would have attacked Scott Walker no matter what he did, because they want their own person to be governor of Wisconsin. Such is politics, and so shall it be till we all shall fall.

Sorry Dark. I don’t think disclosure and open are in Scotty’s toolbox. So, the impression that he is shifty comes with who he is. So he does what he does and the reputation grows out of who he is. No Dems needed. Just add up some of the stuff he has done and the impression builds. If he loses this election he can conclude he did it to himself by being Scott Walker.

252 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 8:39:17am

re: #229 Snarknado!

retweet.

253 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 8:42:27am

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Today is the first time I’d heard of him. I wasn’t even aware that he just died.

He’s well-known in this area. He lived in Tucson for a long time, and 5 years ago moved to Las Cruces. He had hooked up with Molly Molloy, who has a great resource tracking violence in Juarez in her Frontera List. He wrote a lot for Mountain Gazette, which keeps going in and out of business.

His writing is very dark. It seems to be pretty much true, though. So disturbing I quit reading. I went to a presentation with him, Molloy, and another guy. He went last, and I left before he started.

254 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 8:43:08am

re: #246 William Barnett-Lewis

There were far worse. Carnegie & Frick for an example.

I had said “biggest impact”, which is different from “committed worst actions”. Though the Homestead strike was far worse in terms of the conduct of the company, in putting up sniper towers and calling in Pinkertons to disperse the strikers with Winchester rifles (and somewhat worse (from the workers, who brutalized the Pinkertons after they had surrendered (The workers were greatly provoked, but beating men unconscious after they have surrendered is a bad thing no matter who does it)), the Pullman strike paralyzed rail commerce in America, as so many rail lines ran (and still do run) through Chicago.

That was why I phrased things as I did.

Note: My post should not be read to suggest moral equivalence between Carnegie Steel and the Amalgamated Association of Iron and Steel Workers. The company provoked the confrontation and it was the company that escalated it. Amalgamated did not have clean hands, but it sincerely wanted peace and only resorted to force to stop the attack by the Pinkertons. The misbehavior of its members after the Pinkerton’s surrendered was due to want is sometimes called “the filth of war” rather than to an organized policy, as was the case with Carnegie Steel.

255 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 8:43:57am
256 sagehen  Sep 1, 2014 8:47:22am

re: #188 FemNaziBitch

Absolutely on my top 10 list. I learned so much about the Blitz from those books. I loved the way she wove everything together. I still think about some of the characters sometimes.

Been watching the series, Foyle’s War, on Netflix. Brought the books back to me in detail.

The subplot about Fortitude South gave me a lot to think about in re: government secrecy and outright lying — the intricacy of that deception, the disaster if they’d had a Snowdon….

257 CuriousLurker  Sep 1, 2014 8:52:02am

re: #253 wrenchwench

Interesting, thanks—I was going to ask why you didn’t like his writing. I was just reading this, over at AZ Central:

Bowden was born July 20, 1945,and moved from Illinois to Tucson with his family as a young child for the health of his sister, Graham said.

His career began in American history, and he frequently joked that “he was the only person to get a Ph.D. to become a redneck,” Graham said. He left a position teaching history at the University of Chicago, worked in manual labor for some time, and eventually became a reporter for the now-defunct Tucson Citizen. There he spent years reporting on gruesome crimes before he moved on to other investigative journalism, Graham said.

“He would actually refer to a book or an article as a song,” Graham said. “He taught me to go to some of the ugliest, darkest places in life but not to write a horror story about it. To go where most of us really don’t want to go but, essentially, to sing a song about it. To capture the music of what happened.” […]

Sounds like a really interesting person. I’ll have to try to make time to read some of what he wrote and see if I can handle it.

258 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 8:58:22am

re: #257 CuriousLurker

Interesting, thanks—I was going to ask why you didn’t like his writing. I was just reading this, over at AZ Central:

Sounds like a really interesting person. I’ll have to try to make time to read some of what he wrote and see if I can handle it.

Has a Cormac McCarthy element, but documentary, not fiction. That’s what makes it hard.

259 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 8:59:12am

re: #257 CuriousLurker

Here’s a bit.

260 CuriousLurker  Sep 1, 2014 9:03:57am

re: #258 wrenchwench

re: #259 wrenchwench

Thanks.

261 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 9:08:04am

re: #260 CuriousLurker

Thanks.

NP. Here’s a note from one of the reader’s of Frontera List:

Gordon Housworth
Aug 31 (10 hours ago)

Charles Bowden is gone at 69. I never met him but came to this list and its manager, Molly Molly, in an early attempt to contact him. I soon became content to talk to Molly and other members of this list.

While I am Texas born and raised, I left the state for overseas venues. Years later when I began to track his work, I was struck by his accuracy, understanding and what I read as a controlled scream at various forms of administrative and legislative silliness that did little to help those most close to the blade.

Charles had a sense for ground truth, for what things are and how things could be moved with less friction to a better place. He was pretty much unerring from what I could see.

​There is no greater praise that an analyst in our patch can get than that. Charles was an uncommon man.

Many voices are missed when they are stilled. Charles Bowden is now well up on that list.

‘Controlled scream’ says it.

262 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 9:09:14am

Good news for unstable people previously too poor to buy an assault rifle. There should be some great bargains just in time for the holidays.

263 CuriousLurker  Sep 1, 2014 9:10:21am

re: #261 wrenchwench

NP. Here’s a note from one of the reader’s of Frontera List:

‘Controlled scream’ says it.

That’s a great description—very evocative.

264 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 9:10:46am

re: #262 darthstar

Good news for unstable people previously too poor to buy an assault rifle. There should be some great bargains just in time for the holidays.

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There was an artificial run on them due to NRA hysteria, now everyone who was gonna own one already has one or more…

265 Skip Intro  Sep 1, 2014 9:12:39am

re: #239 Pie-onist Overlord

6 Most Horrific Bosses Of All Time

Am I the only one who thinks this looks just like Rush Limbaugh?

266 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 9:17:15am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was an artificial run on them due to NRA hysteria, now everyone who was gonna own one already has one or more…

Yep…the market’s saturated. The only people who bought them are the ones so gullible and stupid that they shouldn’t have them. Anyone smart enough to own an assault rifle is smart enough to know they don’t need one, and therefore they don’t have one.

From the linked article:

“Everybody wanted to buy one before Congress passed legislation that might take away the right to have one. Of course, Congress never passed that legislation,” said Andrea James, a Minneapolis-based analyst for Dougherty & Co., who lowered her rating on Smith & Wesson yesterday to neutral. “The best thing for firearms demand is to have the constant threat of legislation without ever actually having the legislation.

267 Goldenpipewrench  Sep 1, 2014 9:22:36am

re: #262 darthstar

Good news for unstable people previously too poor to buy an assault rifle. There should be some great bargains just in time for the holidays.

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people who can shoot straight are disappearing…

268 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:25:48am

re: #262 darthstar

Semi-auto rifles aren’t assault rifles, Darth. Assault rifles are full-automatic capable. Moreover, panic buying over a feared scarcity is a very human reaction, one not limited to gun owners.

269 thedopefishlives  Sep 1, 2014 9:27:05am

Morning gentle lizardfolk. How go things among the Lizardim today?

270 allegro  Sep 1, 2014 9:29:06am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Semi-auto rifles aren’t assault rifles, Darth. Assault rifles are full-automatic capable. Moreover, panic buying over a feared scarcity is a very human reaction, one not limited to gun owners.

Downding for the tedious gun pedantry and attempt to divert the point.

271 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:29:10am

re: #267 Goldenpipewrench

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people who can shoot straight are disappearing…

No, they aren’t. What is happening is that the rise of the Internet has caused a relatively minor firearms accident that once would have only merited a small mention in a local newspaper to be posted in many places and seen by far more people.

This sort of stupid gun mistake happened before the net as well, but back then you didn’t hear about it unless it happened close to you.

272 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:30:53am

re: #270 allegro

No, my point was that the author of that piece is an anti-gun ass and darthstar’s mockery is getting on my nerves.

273 makeitstop  Sep 1, 2014 9:33:50am

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

a relatively minor firearms accident that once would have only merited a small mention in a local newspaper

I really hope you’re not referring to the Arizona killing.

274 thedopefishlives  Sep 1, 2014 9:35:37am

Ah. So this is why people don’t show up in the mornings. Guess I should go for my asbestos scale suit.

275 Lancelot Link  Sep 1, 2014 9:35:46am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

George Pullman: Possibly the biggest impact asshole in the history of American industry.

And if he were around today, Republicans would be making excuses for him.

276 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 9:36:42am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Moreover, panic buying over a feared scarcity is a very human reaction, one not limited to gun owners.

The panic was an artificially created one, although creating panics is not necessarily limited to gun manufacturers.

277 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 9:37:24am

re: #270 allegro

Downding for the tedious gun pedantry and attempt to divert the point.

It’s an accurate and important distinction.

Let’s presume you wave a magic wand and every so-called assault weapon dissapeared. What would change? Almost nothing because they are used in very very very few gun related crimes. What you really have is politicians using people’s lack of knowledge about guns to keep them scared and voting for them.

Now, if you’d like a real Assault Rifle, a fully transferable one of the very first type - the MKb-42(H) - is up for auction at the RIA auction house. It is estimated to sell for $120,000 to $180,000 and is subject to regulation and taxation under the NFA of 1934. More reasons why you should be more concerned about cheap handguns than “assault rifles”.

rockislandauction.com

278 Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2014 9:37:28am

re: #275 Lancelot Link

And if he were around today, Republicans would be making excuses for him.

He’s around today in spirit. And the repubs make excuses and tax breaks in his honor.

279 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 9:39:44am

re: #275 Lancelot Link

And if he were around today, Republicans would be making excuses for him taking enormous campaign contributions from him.

280 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 9:40:10am

re: #273 makeitstop

I really hope you’re not referring to the Arizona killing.

No, he’s referring to the injury sustained in Florida as posted in 267.

281 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 9:41:22am

re: #267 Goldenpipewrench

Next RW screaming point: Liberals are making gun owners shoot gay. We must protect traditional shooting.

282 Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2014 9:42:48am

re: #280 William Barnett-Lewis

No, he’s referring to the injury sustained in Florida as posted in 267.

“One of them tried to unjam the handgun but accidentally pulled the trigger, shooting himself in the finger, police told the paper. The bullet went through his friend’s thigh and ended up in a nearby wall, police said.”

An accidental shooting where a bullet travels through a finger and a thigh doesn’t sound minor to me. But that’s just me.

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 1, 2014 9:43:02am

Happy Labor Day Lizards!

Still out here in southern Illinois. Working on sorting pictures while the host takes a nap before starting on grilling a marinated pork loin.

And some related pictures:
Puck - Senior Feline Overlord

Nibbler - Vice-Feline Overlord

Ollie and Sadie - Security and Small Mammal Chasing

284 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:43:37am

re: #273 makeitstop

I really hope you’re not referring to the Arizona killing.

re: #280 William Barnett-Lewis

No, he’s referring to the injury sustained in Florida as posted in 267.

William is correct. i was referring to the accident in Florida. I called it ‘minor’ because no one died or was seriously or permanently injured.

285 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:44:41am

re: #283 Feline Fearless Leader

Happy Labor Day Lizards!

Still out here in southern Illinois. Working on sorting pictures while the host takes a nap before starting on grilling a marinated pork loin.

And some related pictures:
Puck - Senior Feline Overlord

[Embedded image]Nibbler - Vice-Feline Overlord

[Embedded image]Ollie and Sadie - Security and Small Mammal Chasing

Puck is an American Blue, isn’t he?

286 allegro  Sep 1, 2014 9:44:49am

re: #277 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s an accurate and important distinction.

Let’s presume you wave a magic wand and every so-called assault weapon dissapeared. What would change? Almost nothing because they are used in very very very few gun related crimes. What you really have is politicians using people’s lack of knowledge about guns to keep them scared and voting for them.

Now, if you’d like a real Assault Rifle, a fully transferable one of the very first type - the MKb-42(H) - is up for auction at the RIA auction house. It is estimated to sell for $120,000 to $180,000 and is subject to regulation and taxation under the NFA of 1934. More reasons why you should be more concerned about cheap handguns than “assault rifles”.

rockislandauction.com

And I have not a single shit to give over what kind of gun injures and kills yet another person. If it shoots a fucking bullet, it should be harshly regulated.

287 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 1, 2014 9:47:08am

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

Puck is an American Blue, isn’t he?

Part tabby since he has a bit of orange on him. Not sure where he was acquired - I would have to ask.

288 stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2014 9:48:59am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was an artificial run on them due to NRA hysteria, now everyone who was gonna own one already has one or more…

Well you can always buy bullets for that hard to please ammosexual on your holiday list. They’re still hot.

289 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 9:49:52am

re: #286 allegro

And I have not a single shit to give over what kind of gun injures and kills yet another person. If it shoots a fucking bullet, it should be harshly regulated.

I see. So by being ideologically pure and terrified you will give the NRA the ability to continue to control the debate rather than work for constructive gains?

290 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Sep 1, 2014 9:50:40am

I see we’ve gotten into the weeds on gun measurements again. sigh.

291 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:50:50am

re: #286 allegro

And I disagree, sharply. Mostly because regulation does not need to be “harsh” to be effective.

292 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 9:52:34am

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

William is correct. i was referring to the accident in Florida. I called it ‘minor’ because no one died or was seriously or permanently injured.

Only because they were a lot luckier than they were intelligent…

293 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 9:52:41am

re: #282 Patricia Kayden

“One of them tried to unjam the handgun but accidentally pulled the trigger, shooting himself in the finger, police told the paper. The bullet went through his friend’s thigh and ended up in a nearby wall, police said.”

An accidental shooting where a bullet travels through a finger and a thigh doesn’t sound minor to me. But that’s just me.

Just walk it off.

294 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 9:53:35am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

And I disagree, sharply. Mostly because regulation does not need to be “harsh” to be effective.

right now it is neither.

295 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 9:53:59am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Only because they were a lot luckier than they were intelligent…

That has always been the case whether with guns, cars, power tools, swimming pools, etc. “Hold my beer…” is a cliche with, like most, an origin in reality.

296 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 9:54:59am

re: #293 Decatur Deb

Just walk it off.

Eet’s just ah flesh woond!

297 allegro  Sep 1, 2014 9:55:00am

re: #289 William Barnett-Lewis

I see. So by being ideologically pure and terrified you will give the NRA the ability to continue to control the debate rather than work for constructive gains?

Constructive gains? Really? When gun fetishists prevent even the most basic discourse wrt regulations of any kind? LOL

Oh, and fuck you. I AM a gun owner - it’s part of my basic professional field equipment and necessary under certain conditions.

298 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 9:56:08am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Only because they were a lot luckier than they were intelligent…

“Everyone’s life has a purpose. For some the purpose is to serve as a horrible example.”
—Somebody

299 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:56:33am

re: #290 Rev_Arthur_Belling

I see we’ve gotten into the weeds on gun measurements again. sigh.

No, these weeds are grown out of human emotions regarding firearms.

If you meant ‘gun measurements’ literally, that is. Because I assure you that I do not need a gun as a penis enhancer, thank you very much. This here would actually be my preferred gun to win from the auction William linked to:

U.S. Harrington & Richardson M1 Garand Semi-Automatic Rifle with Bayonet

Image: RWJ25-K-F2-L.jpg

300 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 9:57:18am

re: #297 allegro

Fling an insult, get a downding.

301 allegro  Sep 1, 2014 9:59:17am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Fling an insult, get a downding.

OK, there you go.

302 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 10:00:57am

re: #297 allegro

Constructive gains? Really? When gun fetishists prevent even the most basic discourse wrt regulations of any kind? LOL

Oh, and fuck you. I AM a gun owner - it’s part of my basic professional field equipment and necessary under certain conditions.

You make your own fears and fetishes more obvious with each post. That attitude _will_ prevent change from coming because when you whine about “harsh” restrictions all the NRA has to do is point to the people like you and the cash comes flowing in.

Now, when you want to have a real discussion on the topic let me know. Some of my thoughts on how we can drastically change and increase gun regulation without being “harsh” can be found in my pages if you have any real interest in something other than being holier than thou.

303 Stanley Sea  Sep 1, 2014 10:01:06am

re: #283 Feline Fearless Leader

Happy Labor Day Lizards!

Still out here in southern Illinois. Working on sorting pictures while the host takes a nap before starting on grilling a marinated pork loin.

And some related pictures:
Puck - Senior Feline Overlord

[Embedded image]Nibbler - Vice-Feline Overlord

[Embedded image]Ollie and Sadie - Security and Small Mammal Chasing

Ollie is totally giving you side eye.

304 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 10:01:44am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Fling an insult, get a downding.

Meah. Don’t worry about him, it’s not worth the effort.

305 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 10:02:31am

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

And I disagree, sharply. Mostly because regulation does not need to be “harsh” to be effective.

Anything that anyone comes up with that is considered gun control will be considered harsh by the NRA and the gun nuts.

So, is allegro’s reaction really harsh by comparison? Think of all the shouting down gun nuts have done…even to the faces of people that lost children in Sandy Hook. To Gabby Giffords’ husband, a gun owner, but considered (wrongly) to be a liberal gun taker or something.

I know one thing. You, William and others around here might be realistic and considerate when it comes to talking about guns and their control, but really no one from the extreme gun nut faction is paying any attention to you. I’m thinking they may even consider you guys to be part of the problem as you ‘give in’ to regulations. You would be the ones willing to start the slippery slope.

That is the harsh truth.

306 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 10:04:01am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Pre-War Engraved Box Lock Hammerless German Drilling

Perfect for Wisconsin hunting.

307 Dark_Falcon  Sep 1, 2014 10:06:25am

re: #306 William Barnett-Lewis

Interesting. I figured you’d most want the BAR. ;)

BBL

308 Kragar  Sep 1, 2014 10:07:35am
309 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 10:09:16am

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

It was the best LMG of WWI… time past it by in around 1920 though.

For WWII historical appreciation, I’m content with my 1911A1 & M1 Carbine.

310 Jenner7  Sep 1, 2014 10:09:48am

re: #308 Kragar

And yet:

Voters Are Likely To ‘Keep The Bums In’ Despite Low Congressional Approval

huffingtonpost.com

Depressing.

311 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 10:11:41am

re: #310 Jenner7

And yet:

Voters Are Likely To ‘Keep The Bums In’ Despite Low Congressional Approval

huffingtonpost.com

Depressing.

It’s easier to respond to an opinion poll than to participate in an election…

312 Varek Raith  Sep 1, 2014 10:11:43am

Obama Conspiracy Theories Fuel Gun Owners To Stock Up On Russian AK-47s

The National Rifle Association has done its part to cast the sanctions as part of a broader effort to ban guns in the U.S. The group’s lobbying arm recently sent a message to members, which read:

“We of course recognize the important role that enacting sanctions can have in furthering legitimate U.S. foreign policy interests. However, in this instance the extent to which these actions coincide with the stated domestic policy goals of gun control supporters is more than a little unsettling.”

313 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 10:20:25am

re: #312 Varek Raith

Obama Conspiracy Theories Fuel Gun Owners To Stock Up On Russian AK-47s

Has the NRA ever put out any kind of statement on the 9 year-old with the Uzi? Or, has enough time passed they can act like it never happened? No need to answer as I think everyone knows it already.

Funny how they can twist the crap out of sanctions to Russia to push buying AK-47s, but something real that should have some concern for them as an education organization goes by the wayside.

Reasonable gun people need to do do something with the unreasonable NRA.

314 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 10:24:46am

re: #313 ObserverArt

Reasonable gun people need to do do something with the unreasonable NRA.

Some of us try to: theliberalgunclub.com lgoa.org

315 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2014 10:25:12am

re: #305 ObserverArt

re: #297 allegro

Harsh is such a vague term. But let’s contrast terms, and perhaps not surrender the real meaning of any terms to the NRA. Harsh is beyond well regulated. Same as strongly regulated. Which might be a step past reasonably regulated. Which of course is past lightly regulated. And then we have unregulated.

Most of us would agree at strong or reasonable. But what to do with proposals so far out the spectrum? They do create high friction in among those who would find a balance.

Allegro surely has some specifics in mind, but if this argument is going to get all heated & ruin the thread I’d say I’m gonna just lurk.

316 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 10:28:52am

re: #314 William Barnett-Lewis

Some of us try to: theliberalgunclub.com lgoa.org

I know William. But there is a huge well-funded elephant in the room.

And American generally recognizes the elephant as the spokesman and the power in everything guns.

Until the NRA makes drastic changes not one thing is going to change. They shoot everything down.

317 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2014 10:29:12am

re: #297 allegro

Constructive gains? Really? When gun fetishists prevent even the most basic discourse wrt regulations of any kind? LOL

Oh, and fuck you. I AM a gun owner - it’s part of my basic professional field equipment and necessary under certain conditions.

Well perhaps then you can see how frustrating it is to have our rather sedate by comparison gun culture hijacked & redefined by the outliers, the out of control lobbying groups and our critics all at the same time.

318 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 10:31:49am

re: #304 William Barnett-Lewis

Meah. Don’t worry about him, it’s not worth the effort.

Allegro is a woman. I don’t know what kind of effort you’re talking about, but she’s worth it.

319 KiTA  Sep 1, 2014 10:32:49am

re: #313 ObserverArt

Didn’t they post something really asinine in response. Like, “10 ways your kid can have fun safely at a gun range?” I seem to remember HuffPo or one of the other liberal clickbait sites posting it with a bit of frothy rage.

320 wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2014 10:34:06am

re: #318 wrenchwench

Allegro is a woman. I don’t know what kind of effort you’re talking about, but she’s worth it.

Oh, wait, the effort to fling a downding? I take it back…

321 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 10:36:09am

re: #316 ObserverArt

I know William. But there is a huge well-funded elephant in the room.

And American generally recognizes the elephant as the spokesman and the power in everything guns.

Until the NRA makes drastic changes not one thing is going to change. They shoot everything down.

The NRA is being pushed hard from the right by a couple growing groups that make them look sane.

322 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 10:36:54am

re: #315 Rightwingconspirator

Harsh is such a vague term. But let’s contrast terms, and perhaps not surrender the real meaning of any terms to the NRA. Harsh is beyond well regulated. Same as strongly regulated. Which might be a step past reasonably regulated. Which of course is past lightly regulated. And then we have unregulated.

Most of us would agree at strong or reasonable. But what to do with proposals so far out the spectrum? They do create high friction in among those who would find a balance.

Allegro surely has some specifics in mind, but if this argument is going to get all heated & ruin the thread I’d say I’m gonna just lurk.

The heat is part of the problem in my opinion. This board is very reasonable, but when it comes to guns, reason sometimes goes right out the window.

But it is a great indicator of the problem. Reasonable people can’t discuss it, so surely those on the far ends aren’t even attempting.

By the way, the other missing word. Negotiation. But that takes both sides and everyone in the middle.

How long ago was Sandy Hook? Coming up on two years. Looks like the NRA won that round. How sad.

I agree with you…time to bug out. I may be helping keep the topic going.

Later.

323 OhNoZombies!  Sep 1, 2014 10:41:23am

Happy Labor Day everybody!

324 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2014 10:41:36am

Just saw an AAOC commercial about how we are becoming too sedentary a society.
Very well done, it was.
I am now heading outside (in between rain/thunderstorms) to romp with the canine contingent.

325 ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2014 10:43:24am

re: #321 Decatur Deb

The NRA is being pushed hard from the right by a couple growing groups that make them look sane.

Just saw this as I was getting ready to log out.

Can you let me/us know what groups you are talking about. I’d like to check them out.

I’ll drop back in to see if you respond. Later.

326 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 10:44:10am

re: #275 Lancelot Link

And if he were around today, Republicans would be making excuses for him.

Absolutely. Today’s Republican party would call the Pullman strikers a bunch of lazy moochers who are trying to get wages and benefits they don’t deserve. They’d pull all the usual arguments they use against minimum wage workers and Walmart employees.

Fox News, National Review, and the entire RW media would call the strikers a bunch of terrorist thugs who are looting and harming their own community and who need to be stopped by a militarized police force because that’s all they know and/or understand.

327 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 10:50:07am
328 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 10:50:59am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

Fling an insult, get a downding.

Anyone ever tell you you’re sexy when you’re being the moral police? There’s probably a good reason why not.

But you showed allegro alright…that downding will sting for weeks.

Can a man get a downding here or what?

329 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 10:52:02am

re: #325 ObserverArt

Just saw this as I was getting ready to log out.

Can you let me/us know what groups you are talking about. I’d like to check them out.

I’ll drop back in to see if you respond. Later.

2nd Amendment Foundation - more right wing, mostly into lawsuits.

Gun Owners of America - extreme right wing, hates liberals, considers the NRA to be not pure enough.

330 Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2014 10:54:20am

Interesting… this Riverfront Times writer says they really are trying to get officer Darren Wilson’s juvenile record:

331 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 10:56:08am

re: #325 ObserverArt

Just saw this as I was getting ready to log out.

Can you let me/us know what groups you are talking about. I’d like to check them out.

I’ll drop back in to see if you respond. Later.

Gun Owners of America (GOA) is the most developed, then there are the Texas Open Carry nutcases. The NRA chided them and found it politic to backtrack. There are others, but they blend into the Threeper/militia fantasy world. I’ve seen arguments for community-supported heavy weapon systems and the right to maintain citizen-nukes.

332 Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2014 10:56:22am
333 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 10:56:50am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

Interesting… this Riverfront Times writer says they really are trying to get officer Darren Wilson’s juvenile record:

[Embedded content]

They’ll probably get blocked because it could taint the jury pool…or at least that’s what his lawyers will argue. The case against him will be ruined before charges are ever filed.

334 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2014 11:01:52am

re: #333 darthstar

The state won’t convict him. But the feds just might. Same as Stacy Koon and Laurence Powell. The way I see it the state won’t have the evidence due to malfeasance. The Feds will because of the malfeasance.

335 Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2014 11:02:33am

The most drunk Democrat in Texas is still more sober, compassionate, and sensical than any Republican in that state.

336 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 1, 2014 11:07:47am

Um NO, it’s by making OTHER PEOPLE work hard while paying them less than they need to live on.

337 Stanley Sea  Sep 1, 2014 11:09:20am

re: #327 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Oh my god, reading this.

338 darthstar  Sep 1, 2014 11:10:58am

Boards are in the truck. Time to go surfing with my wife. I’ll leave you with this:

339 Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2014 11:11:17am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s by far one of the most disparaging statements against all Americans. Disgusting.

340 Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2014 11:12:54am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

Um NO, it’s by making OTHER PEOPLE work hard while paying them less than they need to live on.

[Embedded content]

Wonder what percentage of the top 10 richest Americans didn’t inherit their money from mommy and daddy?

341 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 11:13:05am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

Um NO, it’s by making OTHER PEOPLE work hard while paying them less than they need to live on.

Remember, America: Rich people work hard. Often they’re the hardest working among us. That’s “how they go so rich.”

Inherited wealth plays no role, I assume.

Calvinism teaches us that the rich are rich because they are morally superior to the rest of us slobs. And Americans still buy into that ideology.

342 jaunte  Sep 1, 2014 11:13:15am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

Remember, America: Rich people work hard. Often they’re the hardest working among us. That’s “how they go so rich.”

It is incredibly hard to be born a Walton.

343 EmmaAnne  Sep 1, 2014 11:13:31am

re: #315 Rightwingconspirator

Harsh is such a vague term. But let’s contrast terms, and perhaps not surrender the real meaning of any terms to the NRA. Harsh is beyond well regulated. Same as strongly regulated. Which might be a step past reasonably regulated. Which of course is past lightly regulated. And then we have unregulated.

Two Democrats were successfully recalled in Colorado for voting for new gun laws that did two things: required background checks for all gun purchases (we had a gunshot loophole) and making new purchases of large clips illegal (not current ownership). So I would say there isn’t any such thing as lightly- or reasonably- or well- regulated. It is all harsh regulation meriting special elections to remove people from office.

These laws passed in the wake of the mass shooting at the movie theater. Even at the time I was of two minds about the new legislation. Because as far as I can tell, all any sort of gun control does is cause Democrats to lose office before being repealed.

I am a gun owner also, if that matters.

344 thedopefishlives  Sep 1, 2014 11:14:09am

re: #340 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what percentage of the top 10 richest Americans didn’t inherit their money from mommy and daddy?

Absolute(ly) zero.

345 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 1, 2014 11:15:46am

re: #343 EmmaAnne

Gun Control is what Democrats talk about when they are tired of winning elections.

The number of people who were happy to have CCW passed in WI was pretty much the same as the number Walker won his recall by.

346 ausador  Sep 1, 2014 11:17:01am

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

One thing to remember is that contributions to the 2012 recall election in Wisconsin were unlimited per Wisconsin law. That law in fact predated Scott Walker ever having held public office. So ‘unlimited corporate contributions’ to groups aiding his campaign were legal. It’s noteworthy that despite the media sniping, no charges have been filed against the governor, nor has are any likely to be.

Way to completely miss/obfuscate the entire point dark.

This has nothing to do with whether the donations were legally limited or not, they weren’t, and no one says differently.

The violation of the law was that the “Wisconsin Club for Growth” to which the donations were made was not actually an independent entity:

The group that received the money, along with millions of dollars in other donations, was the Wisconsin Club for Growth, an “independent” conservative spending organization that state prosecutors say was actually controlled by R.J. Johnson, one of Mr. Walker’s closest campaign aides. Mr. Walker and his aides brazenly violated state campaign finance regulations barring coordination between independent groups and candidate campaigns, first by rounding up the money and then by telling the groups how to spend it.
Link

You may want to rethink your stance that no laws were broken here, especially since the prosecutors have emails proving their allegations. I am sure that Mr. Johnson will fall on his sword like a good little Republican operative and swear that Walker didn’t know. That doesn’t mean that I have to believe him though… :(

347 jaunte  Sep 1, 2014 11:17:18am

Photo - Dorothea Lange

In the Fields: Near Meloland, Imperial Valley. Large scale agriculture. Gang labor, Mexican and white, from the Southwest. Pull, clean, tie and crate carrots for the eastern market for eleven cents per crate of forty-eight bunches. Many can make barely one dollar a day. Heavy oversupply of labor and competition for jobs is keen.

348 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 11:17:23am

re: #345 William Barnett-Lewis

Gun control is what liberals talk about when they’re tired of people dying needlessly. The fact that they lose votes on the issue is really sad.

349 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 1, 2014 11:18:40am

re: #348 Belafon

Gun control is what liberals talk about when they’re tired of people dying needlessly. The fact that they lose votes on the issue is really sad.

Because the NRA has conflated “gun control” with “total confiscation of all guns” and we also buy into that image big-time

350 jaunte  Sep 1, 2014 11:20:37am

Photo - Lewis W. Hine

Miners: View of the Ewen Breaker of the Pennsylvania Coal Co. The dust was so dense at times as to obscure the view. This dust penetrated the utmost recesses of the boys’ lungs. A kind of slave-driver sometimes stands over the boys, prodding or kicking them into obedience. South Pittston, Pennsylvania.

351 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 11:20:41am

re: #345 William Barnett-Lewis

Gun Control is what Democrats talk about when they are tired of winning elections.

…snip

Which is precisely why I wish they would STFU about it. The path to reasonable controls runs through winning elections, confirming USSC justices, and possibly passing a constitutional amendment. None of that happens if we hand the RW a guaranteed election winner. National OFA has published its 3 goals for the coming seasons. Two of them are suicidal for a Dem running in Alabama.

352 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 11:21:58am

re: #351 Decatur Deb

And how do you propose keeping those gun laws in place if we don’t talk about them? The quickest way to lose an election would be to have a surpose vote on restricting weapons.

353 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 1, 2014 11:23:18am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

That’s by far one of the most disparaging statements against all Americans. Disgusting.

Article of faith for the #tcot masses

354 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 1, 2014 11:23:31am
355 Lancelot Link  Sep 1, 2014 11:28:42am

re: #344 thedopefishlives

Wonder what percentage of the top 10 richest Americans didn’t inherit their money from mommy and daddy?

Absolute(ly) zero.

Well, Larry Ellison, at least, was born poor.

356 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 11:29:22am

re: #352 Belafon

And how do you propose keeping those gun laws in place if we don’t talk about them? The quickest way to lose an election would be to have a surpose vote on restricting weapons.

Surprise vote? Won’t be a surprise. Effective controls will be a by-product of a generational battle to be won on other fronts. The gun-control horse hasn’t left the barn—it was never in the corral.

The nutcase gun dealers around here don’t just sell guns, they sell well-engineered sealing systems so you can take your reserve out in the woods and bury it beneath detector range.

We have decided that the number of dead kids from sloppy gun laws is a tolerable cultural trade-off, just like the rate of deaths from highschool sports.

357 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2014 11:29:49am

They work soooo hard for their money…

Rich Kids of Instagram

358 Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2014 11:31:57am

re: #355 Lancelot Link

Well, Larry Ellison, at least, was born poor.

Yeah, Bill Gates was middle class wasn’t he. So 20% that didn’t inherit so far.

359 Feline Fearless Leader  Sep 1, 2014 11:32:54am

Happy Labor Day!

Hope the Lizards are enjoying their basking rocks today.

360 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 11:34:21am

re: #353 Pie-onist Overlord

Article of faith for the #tcot masses

361 allegro  Sep 1, 2014 11:35:17am

re: #358 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, Bill Gates was middle class wasn’t he. So 20% that didn’t inherit so far.

He was the beneficiary of an excellent education his white upper-middle class status afforded.

362 sagehen  Sep 1, 2014 11:37:43am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

Interesting… this Riverfront Times writer says they really are trying to get officer Darren Wilson’s juvenile record:

[Embedded content]

I’m more interested in his records from that other police department he used to work for…

363 allegro  Sep 1, 2014 11:40:34am

re: #362 sagehen

I’m more interested in his records from that other police department he used to work for…

… and complete records from the Ferguson PD that conveniently fail to include complaints of excessive force from the individual records of officers.

364 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 11:40:50am

re: #361 allegro

But that’s not the same thing as the Waltons, who wouldn’t have to finish school and would still be rich.

365 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 11:40:57am
366 thedopefishlives  Sep 1, 2014 11:42:40am

re: #365 Gus

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that “raw sexual power” you’re feeling? You should probably see a doctor about that.

367 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 11:43:53am

re: #365 Gus

Sounds like a fun guy.

And he’s a Breitbart writer. What a surprise.

368 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 11:44:03am

re: #365 Gus

That would explain 5 out of the last six presidential elections.

369 Snarknado!  Sep 1, 2014 11:44:06am

re: #365 Gus

The physiques of some prominent conservatives leaped into my mind as I read that. Can someone recommend a good brand of brain bleach?

370 sagehen  Sep 1, 2014 11:44:09am

re: #340 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what percentage of the top 10 richest Americans didn’t inherit their money from mommy and daddy?

The top 10 (in order) are:

Bill Gates
Warren Buffett
Larry Ellison
2 Kochs
4 Waltons
Bloomberg

Kochs and Waltons inherited; the rest didn’t.

371 danarchy  Sep 1, 2014 11:44:34am

re: #358 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, Bill Gates was middle class wasn’t he. So 20% that didn’t inherit so far.

I think Bloomberg was born middle class too.

The Kochs and the Waltons probably make up half of the top 10 though.

372 Lidane  Sep 1, 2014 11:44:58am
373 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 1, 2014 11:46:21am

Uccccch
HURR HURR YOONYUN THUGS IS MAKIN THEM WALMART ASSOCIATES THINK THEY DESERVES OVERTIME PAYS!!!!!!!

374 sagehen  Sep 1, 2014 11:46:25am

re: #370 sagehen

11-20 is:

Adelson
Bezos
google Brin
google Page
3 Mars heirs
Icahn
Soros
Zuckerberg

Mars kids inherited, the other 7 amassed their own fortunes.

375 Snarknado!  Sep 1, 2014 11:47:05am

re: #371 danarchy

I think Bloomberg was born middle class too.

The Kochs and the Waltons probably make up half of the top 10 though.

And their families were well off enough to give them a start. Not like the kid who drops out at 16 to support the family.

376 b_sharp  Sep 1, 2014 11:47:25am

It isn’t how hard the 1% works that makes them rich it’s how ruthless they are in exploiting others.

377 gwangung  Sep 1, 2014 11:47:33am

re: #358 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, Bill Gates was middle class wasn’t he. So 20% that didn’t inherit so far.

No, he wasn’t. Father was a big time lawyer, mother was the first female director on the board of Pacific Northwest Bell.

378 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 1, 2014 11:47:47am

The “Americanpowerblog” link triggered a malware warning from McAfree

379 b_sharp  Sep 1, 2014 11:49:22am

Btw my grandmother’s sister and brother in law were millionaires.

380 thedopefishlives  Sep 1, 2014 11:50:36am

re: #379 b_sharp

Btw my grandmother’s sister and brother in law were millionaires.

Fishfolk are self-made millionaires. Nothing wrong with being rich, it’s all in how you managed to get there.

381 Belafon  Sep 1, 2014 11:51:01am

re: #377 gwangung

Yes, he had advantages starting out that a lot of American’s do not have, but, unlike the Waltons or Kochs, his fortune was not inherited.

Please don’t confuse the issues here.

If I remember what his dad said, his son would have gotten no inheritence anyway.

382 BeachDem  Sep 1, 2014 11:53:27am

re: #336 Pie-onist Overlord

When I first looked at that, I thought it said Matt ROMNEY, and I thought, how appropriate!

383 Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2014 11:53:48am

re: #365 Gus

That’s the guy Jake Tapper said would make a great contributor to CNN.

384 gwangung  Sep 1, 2014 11:54:38am

re: #381 Belafon

Yes, he had advantages starting out that a lot of American’s do not have, but, unlike the Waltons or Kochs, his fortune was not inherited.

Please don’t confuse the issues here.

If I remember what his dad said, his son would have gotten no inheritence anyway.

It’s fair to say that he was already part of the 1%, and built on that to make his bigger fortune.

He wouldn’t have that bigger fortune without being part of the 1%.

385 BeachDem  Sep 1, 2014 11:55:53am

re: #342 jaunte

It is incredibly hard to be born a Walton.

Well, the odds are definitely against most of us for that to happen, that’s for sure.

386 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 11:57:14am

re: #365 Gus

[Embedded content]

He’s actually serious, isn’t he?

387 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 11:58:01am

re: #386 Decatur Deb

He’s actually serious, isn’t he?

Yeah, probably.

388 Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2014 11:59:12am

re: #387 Gus

Yeah, probably.

Guy who read Ayn Rand for the erotic value.

389 sagehen  Sep 1, 2014 12:00:03pm

re: #380 thedopefishlives

Fishfolk are self-made millionaires. Nothing wrong with being rich, it’s all in how you managed to get there.

And what do you do with it after you get there.

Gates and Buffet are each giving away 99.5% — and running around the country trying to pressure the other billionaires into giving away at least half (they’ve gotten dozens of signatories already).

390 Gus  Sep 1, 2014 12:00:43pm

re: #383 Charles Johnson

That’s the guy Jake Tapper said would make a great contributor to CNN.

Tapper sure has a lot of wingnut friends.

391 BeachDem  Sep 1, 2014 12:02:09pm

re: #366 thedopefishlives

Yeah, that “raw sexual power” you’re feeling? You should probably see a doctor about that.

Appropriate in so many different situations (only thing missing is GOHMERT!)

392 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 12:04:29pm

re: #347 jaunte

Look at all those Freedom Loving Galtians.

393 Ryan King  Sep 1, 2014 12:06:39pm

re: #383 Charles Johnson

That’s the guy Jake Tapper said would make a great contributor to CNN.

He’s an asshole. A petulant trolling asshole.

394 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2014 12:44:03pm

re: #365 Gus

[Embedded content]

oh, bullshit. Everyone knows that conservatives believe that sex is just icky,

ICKY!!!


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