Apple Releases Statement on Celebrity Hacking: iCloud Was Not Breached

“A very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions”
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Here’s the statement just released by Apple on the theft of celebrities’ photos from their iCloud accounts.

Apple Media Advisory

Update to Celebrity Photo Investigation

We wanted to provide an update to our investigation into the theft of photos of certain celebrities. When we learned of the theft, we were outraged and immediately mobilized Apple’s engineers to discover the source. Our customers’ privacy and security are of utmost importance to us. After more than 40 hours of investigation, we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet. None of the cases we have investigated has resulted from any breach in any of Apple’s systems including iCloud(r) or Find my iPhone. We are continuing to work with law enforcement to help identify the criminals involved.

To protect against this type of attack, we advise all users to always use a strong password and enable two-step verification. Both of these are addressed on our website at support.apple.com.

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1 Kragar  Sep 2, 2014 12:37:11pm

What do you bet the creeper behind this shit is another “information wants to be free” and “The NSA is the real villain” dudebro?

2 Danny  Sep 2, 2014 12:38:24pm

Probably wouldn’t hurt to keep photo stream turned off if you keep nude selfies on your devices, too.

3 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 12:40:30pm

“Store all your sensitive data in The Cloud! What could be safer than sending that stuff over the airwaves and the internet to be stored on something you can’t even clearly define?”

4 KiTA  Sep 2, 2014 12:41:09pm

re: #1 Kragar

Given that it’s 4chan and Reddit involved, I imagine the thought process went as far as “Hey, I can guess their passwords and holy shit, nudes, if I upload this maybe someone will think I’m cool.”

Hasty Addendum: Not saying all 4channers or Redditors are like that, but there’s definitely some out there. :P Mostly on /b/ or /r/mensrights or whatever.

5 allegro  Sep 2, 2014 12:42:06pm

I’m not that technically literate but do all of those words come down to “the hackers are good guessers”? They fooled around until they got the actual passwords and security question answers on multiple people all on the same day?

*sniff, sniff* kinda stinky

6 Randall Gross  Sep 2, 2014 12:43:06pm

If it’s not Apple, then that leaves the Carriers or the Cloud Apps the photos were in…

7 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 12:44:22pm

re: #4 KiTA

Given that it’s 4chan and Reddit involved, I imagine the thought process went as far as “Hey, I can guess their passwords and holy shit, nudes, if I upload this maybe someone will think I’m cool.”

Hasty Addendum: Not saying all 4channers or Redditors are like that, but there’s definitely some out there. :P Mostly on /b/ or /r/mensrights or whatever.

OH! ‘MRA’ = ‘Men’s Rights Activists’. Got it. I saw that abbreviation on another thread - related to date rape and the belief that men are ‘owed’ sex, and didn’t know what it meant.

Stealing nude pics and date rape are pretty much the same thing - violating someone because you can, and thinking yourself clever for doing it.

8 Kragar  Sep 2, 2014 12:44:26pm

re: #3 GeneJockey

“Store all your sensitive data in The Cloud! What could be safer than sending that stuff over the airwaves and the internet to be stored on something you can’t even clearly define?”

Google is constantly reminding me that they don’t have all my personal data on file to keep secure for me

9 lawhawk  Sep 2, 2014 12:44:56pm

Super.

Home Depot probing possible hacking breach.

Home Depot Inc said on Tuesday it was working with law enforcement to investigate “some unusual activity” related to customer data but that it could not confirm if it had become the latest retailer to be hit by a large-scale security breach.

Shares of the home improvement chain were down 1.9 percent at $91.25 on Tuesday afternoon on the news.

“At this point, I can confirm that we’re looking into some unusual activity and we are working with our banking partners and law enforcement to investigate,” Home Depot representative Paula Drake wrote in an emailed statement to Reuters.

“If we confirm that a breach has occurred, we will make sure customers are notified immediately.”

The statement came after security website KrebsonSecurity first reported that multiple banks had seen evidence that Home Depot may be the source of stolen credit and debit cards put up for sale on underground markets.

Retail customers faced a massive data breach during last year’s holiday season when hackers stole at least 40 million payment card numbers and 70 million other pieces of customer data from Target Corp .

10 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 12:45:15pm

re: #8 Kragar

Google is constantly reminding me that they don’t have all my personal data on file to keep secure for me

Well, then, you better get right on that, hadn’t you?
//

11 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 12:46:36pm

The more I see this stuff, the more I marvel at those who are shocked that the Digital Age is tearing down the idea of “privacy.”

13 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 12:48:18pm

re: #5 allegro

I’m not that technically literate but do all of those words come down to “the hackers are good guessers”? They fooled around until they got the actual passwords and security question answers on multiple people all on the same day?

*sniff, sniff* kinda stinky

I remember back when I was a kid doing small time hacks we used to use a program called crackerjack that would run random combinations of numbers and letters until it found a match for a password. We’d leave it running for hours and go do stuff then come back to a list of passwords/usernames.

Now to be clear we never used that information for anything nefarious. We just wanted to see if we could get into a network. Never stole anything, never planted viruses, never did any of that crap. We just tried to get in, then got out.

14 Danny  Sep 2, 2014 12:48:55pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Yeah i shop there a lot. Guess cash is the way to go these days.

15 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 12:49:28pm

re: #13 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I remember back when I was a kid doing small time hacks we used to use a program called crackerjack that would run random combinations of numbers and letters until it found a match for a password. We’d leave it running for hours and go do stuff then come back to a list of passwords/usernames.

Now to be clear we never used that information for anything nefarious. We just wanted to see if we could get into a network. Never stole anything, never planted viruses, never did any of that crap. We just tried to get in, then got out.

“Play Global Thermonuclear War…”

16 Franklin  Sep 2, 2014 12:49:42pm

I just started using 1Password on my Mac and iPhone. I like their concept of using a generated password and only keeping it in the 1Password app, not having to remember it.

As long as you have your phone or computer, you can retrieve the password when you need it. And there are browser extensions so anytime you change your password it can be updated in the app.

For too long I’d been using the same password for many of my logins. If one gets cracked, they can all be cracked at the point.

Downside is if someone steals your computer or phone and cracks the password to the app :/

Anyone else using a password app like this?

17 klys  Sep 2, 2014 12:50:14pm

re: #6 Randall Gross

If it’s not Apple, then that leaves the Carriers or the Cloud Apps the photos were in…

The photos were in the iCloud, it sounds like. See:

After more than 40 hours of investigation, we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet.

Apple is just saying that the break-in wasn’t because of a breach in their security.

18 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 12:50:41pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

“Play Global Thermonuclear War…”

I don’t think they had that game on the network of the local community college.

19 Schadenboner  Sep 2, 2014 12:51:08pm

re: #4 KiTA

Given that it’s 4chan and Reddit involved, I imagine the thought process went as far as “Hey, I can guess their passwords and holy shit, nudes, if I upload this maybe someone will think I’m cool.”

Hasty Addendum: Not saying all 4channers or Redditors are like that, but there’s definitely some out there. :P Mostly on /b/ or /r/mensrights or whatever.

NOT ALL 4CHANNERS…

Wait, never mind. Yeah, all of us.

20 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 12:51:10pm

This is pretty much what I thought — the hackers got in by using the password recovery feature. All they’d need is the celebrity’s Apple email address, and information about their lives, and they could guess the answers to the security questions. And once they got into one celebrity account, they had access to their address book, with email addresses for other celebrities. Chain reaction.

The lesson here is: NEVER give correct answers to security questions. Make something up, and use that for your answer instead. That way, hackers can’t guess the answer by researching your history.

And also, use a different very strong random password for each service. If you reuse your passwords, you’re asking for trouble.

21 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 12:52:01pm

re: #18 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I don’t think they had that game on the network of the local community college.

Zork, then?

22 CarolJ  Sep 2, 2014 12:52:10pm

More I see this, more I’m glad we still have external hard drives and DVDs.
Someone would have to physically steal something to get access. Not impossible, but a bit harder, especially if it’s not connected to your computer.

23 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 12:52:19pm

re: #16 Franklin

I’ve been using 1Password for years — I highly recommend it.

24 Franklin  Sep 2, 2014 12:52:55pm

re: #17 klys

The photos were in the iCloud, it sounds like. See:

Apple is just saying that the break-in wasn’t because of a breach in their security.

Exactly. Would have been helpful if they had login limits/locks for repeated wrong attempts. But technically, they weren’t breached.

25 lawhawk  Sep 2, 2014 12:53:11pm

Your personal data is only as secure as the weakest link.

It could be the bank you have your funds in.
It could be the supermarket where you buy your food.
It could be the department store or big box store.

Or it could be your twitter, instagram, facebook, or other social media site.

Stealing selfies (nudes or otherwise) is still theft. Those responsible should be prosecuted, just as anyone hacking in and getting bank account or other personal information should.

Strong password protection will help only so much - but if businesses aren’t going to (or can’t) protect data on their end…

26 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 12:53:29pm

re: #21 GeneJockey

Nah. for us it was all about seeing if we could get in. Once we did we logged out. Total white hat stuff.

27 allegro  Sep 2, 2014 12:54:13pm

re: #13 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I remember back when I was a kid doing small time hacks we used to use a program called crackerjack that would run random combinations of numbers and letters until it found a match for a password. We’d leave it running for hours and go do stuff then come back to a list of passwords/usernames.

Now to be clear we never used that information for anything nefarious. We just wanted to see if we could get into a network. Never stole anything, never planted viruses, never did any of that crap. We just tried to get in, then got out.

I thought one could only try different passwords a very few times before getting locked out. Does Apple not provide this simple protection?

28 Franklin  Sep 2, 2014 12:54:39pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I’ve been using 1Password for years — I highly recommend it.

Awesome! It’s been real easy to get into. I may have to talk my boss into it and use it for all our work resources. Since you can share the password between 1Password users, should be easy.

29 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 12:55:57pm

I write all my passwords on my palm.

30 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 12:56:00pm

according to the bible, people who distribute nude selfies should have their eyes put out

31 allegro  Sep 2, 2014 12:56:26pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

This is pretty much what I thought — the hackers got in by using the password recovery feature. All they’d need is the celebrity’s Apple email address, and information about their lives, and they could guess the answers to the security questions. And once they got into one celebrity account, they had access to their address book, with email addresses for other celebrities. Chain reaction.

The lesson here is: NEVER give correct answers to security questions. Make something up, and use that for your answer instead. That way, hackers can’t guess the answer by researching your history.

And also, use a different very strong random password for each service. If you reuse your passwords, you’re asking for trouble.

Ohhh, I get it now. Thanks.

32 klys  Sep 2, 2014 12:57:46pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Your personal data is only as secure as the weakest link.

It could be the bank you have your funds in.
It could be the supermarket where you buy your food.
It could be the department store or big box store.

Or it could be your twitter, instagram, facebook, or other social media site.

Stealing selfies (nudes or otherwise) is still theft. Those responsible should be prosecuted, just as anyone hacking in and getting bank account or other personal information should.

Strong password protection will help only so much - but if businesses aren’t going to (or can’t) protect data on their end…

And if, for example, one used 1Password for the Apple password, well, that doesn’t help at all if someone is circumnavigating through password reset/recovery.

33 lawhawk  Sep 2, 2014 12:57:52pm

re: #30 dog philosopher

according to the bible, people who distribute nude selfies should have their eyes put out

I think I know the section. Revelations 6:9.

34 lawhawk  Sep 2, 2014 12:59:02pm

re: #32 klys

Getting to strong data protection means strong passwords at each level - from your email, to your bank accounts. The stronger, the tougher it is to get in.

35 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 12:59:09pm

The nice thing about 1Password is that you can also store things like answers to security questions — so you don’t have to remember the fake answers you provided.

You only need to remember one password — the password to unlock 1Password.

36 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:01:21pm

re: #32 klys

And if, for example, one used 1Password for the Apple password, well, that doesn’t help at all if someone is circumnavigating through password reset/recovery.

That’s why you should NEVER EVER give correct answers to security questions. Especially in the case of celebrities, where a lot of their history is probably public knowledge.

37 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 1:01:38pm

re: #22 CarolJ

More I see this, more I’m glad we still have external hard drives and DVDs.
Someone would have to physically steal something to get access. Not impossible, but a bit harder, especially if it’s not connected to your computer.

Same here. I’m terrified of storing any sort of sensitive info in the cloud, no matter how well encrypted. I use an open source password manager and only transfer the file everything’s stored in to different devices via a USB thumb drive or my home wi-fi network.

38 klys  Sep 2, 2014 1:02:20pm

There’s a fair number of risks inherent in cloud storage that people can and should be aware of, but the benefits also matter.

I worked on multiple computers when in graduate school but didn’t start using cloud storage until my second year, when I nearly lost everything I had done up to that point because of an incident with the hard drive in my laptop. Nothing I was doing had any kind of personal information attached, so storing it in the cloud was a reasonable strategy after that - it meant I didn’t panic about hard drive issues, always had an accessible copy of a talk at a conference if needed, and could shift files between computers easily.

Not to say that cloud storage doesn’t have very clear risks - nothing is enabled for cloud backup by default on any of my devices - but it’s worth remembering that it has benefits too.

39 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 1:03:24pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

The nice thing about 1Password is that you can also store things like answers to security questions — so you don’t have to remember the fake answers you provided.

You only need to remember one password — the password to unlock 1Password.

on the other hand, if 1password is hacked, all your other passwords will then be available

40 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 1:05:45pm

re: #27 allegro

I thought one could only try different passwords a very few times before getting locked out. Does Apple not provide this simple protection?

There are ways around that. We used to use a unix shell account (since a lot of servers back then were unix) and you never saw the UI of what you were trying to get into just text on a screen via a telnet program.

Once you had the info you could then go to the site you wanted to access and get said access. Porn sites get hacked in this way a lot (there’s a whole set of IRC channels where you can request a user and pass for X site and within a few minutes have access).

These days security has gotten a lot better, back then (mid to late 90’s) things were a bit easier to access.

41 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 1:05:59pm

Norquist and his wife will be attending the annual Burning Man festival in August 2014 in Black Rock, Nevada. Norquist explained that he wishes to attend because, “There’s no government that organizes this. That’s what happens when nobody tells you what to do. You just figure it out. So Burning Man is a refutation of the argument that the state has a place in nature.”

somebody tell grover that burning man doesn’t just “happen”

42 Dr. Matt  Sep 2, 2014 1:06:07pm

Isn’t this how that kid from Tennessee “hacked” into Palin’s yahoo account?

43 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 1:06:41pm

re: #34 lawhawk

Getting to strong data protection means strong passwords at each level - from your email, to your bank accounts. The stronger, the tougher it is to get in.

I even go so far as to use different email addresses for different accounts. Multi-factor authentication helps too, but it’s a PITA. Besides, that too has it’s limitations. Nothing is 100% secure once it’s out there.

44 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:07:04pm

re: #39 dog philosopher

Yes, but someone would need to have access to your computer to do that. And if that’s the case, you’re pretty screwed already.

45 Dr. Matt  Sep 2, 2014 1:08:21pm

re: #41 dog philosopher

Norquist and his wife will be attending the annual Burning Man festival in August 2014 in Black Rock, Nevada. Norquist explained that he wishes to attend because, “There’s no government that organizes this. That’s what happens when nobody tells you what to do. You just figure it out. So Burning Man is a refutation of the argument that the state has a place in nature.”

somebody tell grover that burning man doesn’t just “happen”

Burning Man also charges a “tax” to attend the festival. And, the Principles of Burning Man include:

*radical inclusion (progressive)
*gifting (socialist)
*decommodification (socialist)
*radical self-reliance (have no idea)
*radical self-expression (have no idea)
*communal effort (socialist)
*civic responsibility (progressive)
*leaving no trace (progressive)
*participation (progressive)
*immediacy (have no idea)

46 Kragar  Sep 2, 2014 1:08:47pm
47 klys  Sep 2, 2014 1:09:58pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

I even go so far as to use different email addresses for different accounts. Multifactor-factor authentication helps too, but it’s a PITA. Besides, that too has it’s limitations. Nothing is 100% secure once it’s out there.

The most dangerous thing, from the point of view of security, is a complacent mindset. There is no perfect solution. Pretending otherwise is asking for issues.

I prefer to balance a reasonable level of paranoia without going overboard, and taking steps that are maintainable on a regular basis without requiring entry into a secure bank vault every time I want to do something.

On the flip side, my husband keeps a separate computer for dealing with financial websites.

48 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 1:10:42pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Yes, but someone would need to have access to your computer to do that. And if that’s the case, you’re pretty screwed already.

So what does it do, require a local key file or something?

49 Randall Gross  Sep 2, 2014 1:13:19pm

re: #28 Franklin

Awesome! It’s been real easy to get into. I may have to talk my boss into it and use it for all our work resources. Since you can share the password between 1Password users, should be easy.

Seriously?! Shared passwords at work is like the first thing on the list of things you definitely shouldn’t do.

50 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 1:14:44pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

That’s why you should NEVER EVER give correct answers to security questions. Especially in the case of celebrities, where a lot of their history is probably public knowledge.

I’ve always given fake answers.
First time I was asked for my mom’s maiden name, many years ago, I typed Sinsinnati.
Next time, I said it was the name of my neighbor’s dog, Lucifer. and so on and so on.
Birthday? Totally not my birthdate.
It’s fun coming up with fake answers.

51 ausador  Sep 2, 2014 1:14:53pm

re: #27 allegro

I thought one could only try different passwords a very few times before getting locked out. Does Apple not provide this simple protection?

Apple did not have lockout protection for multiple failed attempts to log-on to the “Find My iPhone” service until they patched it yesterday. :(

52 Randall Gross  Sep 2, 2014 1:16:18pm

I use two step authentication where it is available.

53 Franklin  Sep 2, 2014 1:16:53pm

re: #49 Randall Gross

Seriously?! Shared passwords at work is like the first thing on the list of things you definitely shouldn’t do.

These are for accounts that my boss and I need to use the same account. Some services we use allow only one admin account, silly, but they exist. Since we both need that access, we share it.

All the employees have their own logins/permissions for their needed roles.

54 Bulworth  Sep 2, 2014 1:17:11pm

re:
#45

“There’s no government that organizes this. That’s what happens when nobody tells you what to do. You just figure it out. So Burning Man is a refutation of the argument that the state has a place in nature.”

Really? No one should tell anyone else what to do? So we shouldn’t let Christian conservatives tell anyone what to do either, right?

55 Randall Gross  Sep 2, 2014 1:18:02pm

re: #53 Franklin

These are for accounts that my boss and I need to use the same account. Some services we use allow only one admin account, silly, but they exist. Since we both need that access, we share it.

All the employees have their own logins/permissions for their needed roles.

Well it’s better I guess if it’s just two of you, and it’s good to be trusted. Don’t hose that up.

56 Bulworth  Sep 2, 2014 1:18:33pm

re:
#50

I’ve been totally blowing it on the fake security questions. Should be making up stuff, more secure, more fun.

57 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:18:49pm

re: #51 ausador

Apple did not have lockout protection for multiple failed attempts to log-on to the “Find My iPhone” service until they patched it yesterday. :(

Yes, that was a flaw in their security, no doubt about that. However, if you use a very strong random password (more than 20 characters, mixed with numbers and symbols), not even a brute force dictionary attack will be able to crack it.

58 Egregious Philbin  Sep 2, 2014 1:19:45pm

Ya know, if you don’t want the world to see your vulva, don’t take pictures of it and store it where it can be hacked. Seems kinda simple.

59 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:19:46pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

Yes, there’s an encrypted local key file.

60 Franklin  Sep 2, 2014 1:19:56pm

re: #55 Randall Gross

Well it’s better I guess if it’s just two of you, and it’s good to be trusted. Don’t hose that up.

I’m the one trusting him with the password :)

But your point is valid and well taken.

61 Randall Gross  Sep 2, 2014 1:22:01pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Yes, that was a flaw in their security, no doubt about that. However, if you use a very strong random password (more than 20 characters, mixed with numbers and symbols), not even a brute force dictionary attack will be able to crack it.

I tested this PM and the lockout works.

62 Interesting Times  Sep 2, 2014 1:23:40pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Yes, that was a flaw in their security, no doubt about that. However, if you use a very strong random password (more than 20 characters, mixed with numbers and symbols), not even a brute force dictionary attack will be able to crack it.

What do you think of the classic method advocated in this xkcd cartoon?

It got me thinking about checking entropy, if nothing else:

cygnius.net
rumkin.com
passwordstrengthcalculator.org

63 blueraven  Sep 2, 2014 1:24:51pm

re: #58 Egregious Philbin

Ya know, if you don’t want the world to see your vulva, don’t take pictures of it and store it where it can be hacked. Seems kinda simple.

Well that could be said for anything that could be hacked, not just nudes.
Let’s not blame the victims.

That said, nothing is ever truly private these days and people should be aware.

64 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:25:21pm

re: #62 Interesting Times

What do you think of the classic method advocated in this xkcd cartoon?

It got me thinking about checking entropy, if nothing else:

cygnius.net
rumkin.com
passwordstrengthcalculator.org

I prefer highly randomized passwords, with an app like 1Password to manage them. No need to remember anything.

65 klys  Sep 2, 2014 1:25:34pm

re: #58 Egregious Philbin

Ya know, if you don’t want the world to see your vulva, don’t take pictures of it and store it where it can be hacked. Seems kinda simple.

Apologies, but this seemed the appropriate one to respond to for this.

66 goddamnedfrank  Sep 2, 2014 1:25:53pm

re: #48 CuriousLurker

So what does it do, require a local key file or something?

It generates unique, strong, random passwords containing upper and lower case, numbers, symbols and punctuation for each site. You can set the parameter for websites that have restrictions and set the number of characters for the password between 5 and 50. It then encrypts and locks all those unique passwords behind a unique passphrase that you create, mine is over 30 characters long. You can then log in to any site either from 1Password directly and it will direct your browser to the appropriate login page, fill out the form and log you in, or you can paste in a password through a contextual right click in the field on a website’s login page.

You can also set it to lock on sleep, not display passwords, backup the password file, sync password file with iCloud, lock after x minutes and to clear the password cache from the paste after x seconds. It also has a free optional “Watchtower” service that when enabled monitors known website vulnerabilities and uses that information to verify the sites you’ve stored passwords for.

67 iossarian  Sep 2, 2014 1:27:11pm

re: #62 Interesting Times

What do you think of the classic method advocated in this xkcd cartoon?

It got me thinking about checking entropy, if nothing else:

cygnius.net
rumkin.com
passwordstrengthcalculator.org

The two most annoying aspects of the password paradigm:

- input methods which force you to “type” long passwords on crap keyboards (e.g., i-devices)
- sites with arbitrary (and subtly different) requirements on special character/number presence and length

68 Jenner7  Sep 2, 2014 1:27:42pm

OT:

69 Kragar  Sep 2, 2014 1:28:42pm
70 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:29:38pm

1Password also has an iPhone/iPad app with a built-in web browser that removes the need to type long random passwords on mobile devices. I use Dropbox to sync passwords between devices — the password file is stored with 256-bit AES encryption, the strongest available.

71 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 1:29:50pm

The most trusted name in news:

72 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 1:31:03pm

re: #47 klys

Working for a networking security company has made me really paranoid (because most of the good engineers are also paranoid), especially since I don’t fully understand how systems can be breached. Sometimes talking to my boss or our engineers is… well, they might as well be speaking Mandarin for all I understand. They set up my home wi-fi network, explained the basics of wireless protocols & encryption, then told me to only set the output to the % needed for stable use, don’t broadcast the SSID, etc.

Speaking of SSIDs, sometimes seeing the names of ones in my neighborhood make me LOL. A month or two ago someone had theirs named “FBI Surveillance Van #3”—yeah, like a surveillance team would broadcast that info. *eyeroll*

73 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 1:31:11pm

re: #69 Kragar

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So, Ted Cruz’s Dad is a crazy hatefilled bag of bile, like Mel Gibson’s Dad. Is Ted Cruz gonna get drunk one night, get stopped by the police, and totally flame out like Mel Gibson?

I can hardly wait.

74 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 1:31:47pm

re: #71 b.d.

The most trusted name in news:

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Shouldn’t that be “$t0p !t”?

75 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 1:32:06pm
76 Jenner7  Sep 2, 2014 1:32:53pm

re: #69 Kragar

Not condescending at all…..

JERK.

77 goddamnedfrank  Sep 2, 2014 1:33:10pm

re: #39 dog philosopher

on the other hand, if 1password is hacked, all your other passwords will then be available

That’s pretty much the case without 1Password too though. 1Password master pass phrases are on your computer in encrypted form, and if someone hacks or gets your computer then you’re dealing with the potential loss of every password stored on the local keychain and/or the installation of a key logger.

78 iossarian  Sep 2, 2014 1:34:14pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

Ah, the power of online anonymity: to be a jerk and ruin other people’s lives on the internet.

79 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 1:34:16pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

It generates unique, strong, random passwords containing upper and lower case, numbers, symbols and punctuation for each site. You can set the parameter for websites that have restrictions and set the number of characters for the password between 5 and 50. It then encrypts and locks all those unique passwords behind a unique passphrase that you create, mine is over 30 characters long. You can then log in to any site either from 1Password directly and it will direct your browser to the appropriate login page, fill out the form and log you in, or you can paste in a password through a contextual right click in the field on this website’s login page.

You can also set it to lock on sleep, not display passwords, backup the password file, sync password file with iCloud, lock after x minutes and to clear the password cache from the paste after x seconds. It also has a free optional “Watchtower” service that when enabled monitors known website vulnerabilities and uses that information to verify the sites you’ve stored passwords for.

Cool, thanks.

80 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 1:34:50pm

re: #78 iossarian

Ah, the power of online anonymity: to be a jerk and ruin other people’s lives on the internet.

But, you know, information wants to be free, and all that.
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81 klys  Sep 2, 2014 1:34:56pm

re: #72 CuriousLurker

Working for a networking security company has made me really paranoid (because most of the good engineers are also paranoid), especially since I don’t fully understand how systems can be breached. Sometimes talking to my boss or our engineers is… well, they might as well be speaking Mandarin for all I understand. They set up my home wi-fi network, explained the basics of wireless protocols & encryption, then told me to only set the output to the % needed for stable use, don’t broadcast the SSID, etc.

Speaking of SSIDs, sometimes seeing the names of ones in my neighborhood make me LOL. A month or two ago someone had theirs named “FBI Surveillance Van #3”—yeah, like a surveillance team would broadcast that info. *eyeroll*

The husband is currently on server security for his product.

For the record? He doesn’t use any password managers.

82 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 1:37:24pm

re: #81 klys

The husband is currently on server security for his product.

For the record? He doesn’t use any password managers.

So, on a completely unrelated topic, what’s the product, and what’s your birthdate, backwards?
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83 klys  Sep 2, 2014 1:39:43pm

re: #82 GeneJockey

So, on a completely unrelated topic, what’s the product, and what’s your birthdate, backwards?
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I’d tell you but then you’d feel old.

84 bratwurst  Sep 2, 2014 1:40:49pm

Wow, Jake Tapper is putting Peter King on the air…what a “get” for this intrepid journalistic powerhouse!

85 klys  Sep 2, 2014 1:44:36pm

Have a volcano webcam that does not require any kind of an account to watch.

86 Bulworth  Sep 2, 2014 1:46:27pm

re:
#84

You never see Republicans like Peter King on liberal network news TV.

Never.

/

87 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 1:46:47pm

re: #83 klys

I’d tell you but then you’d feel old.

Hey, I rode 55 miles two days ago. I already feel old. REAL old.

It seems like when you get older, the peak stiffness and soreness from overdoing it athletically happens on Day 2, not Day 1, as when I was younger.

88 makeitstop  Sep 2, 2014 1:47:06pm

re: #54 Bulworth

re:
#45

Really? No one should tell anyone else what to do? So we shouldn’t let Christian conservatives tell anyone what to do either, right?

Or people like Grover make anyone pledge not to raise taxes!

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 1:50:20pm

I was totally ignoring this idiot, but his derp is showing up in my mentions now, so…

90 ausador  Sep 2, 2014 1:55:03pm

Far right-wing, anti-government Libertarians are hiding behind supposed “advocacy” for police accountability at an increasing number of sites.

How Liberals Are Being Tricked into Supporting and Funding Radical Right-Wing Groups

91 Randall Gross  Sep 2, 2014 1:55:53pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

In my experience the “never forgetter types” are mostly folks who think they are on a mission from GAWWWWWD! and unavailable to reason, truth, or facts.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 1:56:22pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was totally ignoring this idiot, but his derp is showing up in my mentions now, so…

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ahh…he’s trying to play nice now that I told him I’m retired firefighter/EMT:

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 2:01:22pm

oh dear…he’s following me now.
He’s not gonna be happy…

:D

94 ausador  Sep 2, 2014 2:03:40pm

On some mornings…

95 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:04:49pm

Say, I’m going to be at the Denver International Airport for two hours tomorrow. Is that enough time for the special underground tour?

96 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:07:36pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

Say, I’m going to be at the Denver International Airport for two hours tomorrow. Is that enough time for the special underground tour?

I’ll schedule you a tornado, then you can spend lots of time down there.

97 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:07:44pm

re: #95 wrenchwench

Say, I’m going to be at the Denver International Airport for two hours tomorrow. Is that enough time for the special underground tour?

Nope. What goes down must never come up.

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim.

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 2:08:02pm

I shall be retweeting several Sad cat posts for my new follower.
:D

99 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:09:00pm

re: #96 klys

I’ll schedule you a tornado, then you can spend lots of time down there.

Nooooooooooo!

But they do have a lot of art on display. Don’t know whether I’ll venture out of the ‘C’ gate area though.

100 Lidane  Sep 2, 2014 2:09:30pm

The Texas GOP candidate for governor, y’all —

How Catherine Engelbrecht Got Greg Abbott To Shut Down A Houston Voter Registration Drive

This weekend, the Dallas Morning News ran a long investigative piece exposing for the first time an armed raid that state Attorney General Greg Abbott’s office ordered on a Houston voter registration operation, Houston Votes, back in 2010. The aftermath played out like ACORN in miniature: Despite the fact that nobody at Houston Votes was charged with any wrongdoing, the organization folded under the pressure of Abbott’s investigation.

The story provides an interesting look at the mechanics of the GOP’s obsessive search for certain types of extraordinarily rare voter fraud in order to justify extreme measures making it harder to cast a ballot. And it also stars two people who have since become familiar names in the national effort to make it more difficult to vote: Abbott, who is now the GOP nominee for governor of Texas, and Catherine Engelbrecht, who now runs the national group True the Vote, but who got her start running a Texas Tea Party group called King Street Patriots.

101 Egregious Philbin  Sep 2, 2014 2:09:53pm

re: #63 blueraven

I was just looking for an excuse to say “vulva”

102 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 2, 2014 2:12:21pm

re: #87 GeneJockey

It seems like when you get older, the peak stiffness and soreness from overdoing it athletically happens on Day 2, not Day 1, as when I was younger.

Same thing here. I turned 67 on Wednesday and for a couple of years now the typical “next morning” pain is 2+ days later. I found it startling the first few times, not quite remembering what I did “yesterday” to feel the pain.

103 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:13:45pm

re: #102 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Same thing here. I turned 67 on Wednesday and for a couple of years now the typical “next day” pain is 2�� days later. I found it startling the first few times, not quite remembering what I did “yesterday” to feel the pain.

You two are a bit older than I, but i swear it’s creeping up to day three.

104 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 2, 2014 2:15:56pm

Here’s another random wingnut with TEH MOAST DERP TWITTER AVI EVER including a Hebrew “Don’t Tread On Me” graphic that I made in 2006.

105 ausador  Sep 2, 2014 2:16:03pm

Same man sexually assaulted two other women at Columbia, still attends the same school as his victims.

Columbia Student Will Carry a Mattress Everywhere Until Her Rapist Is Expelled

Emma Sulkowicz was raped in her own dorm bed by a classmate on the first day of her sophomore year of college. Since then, a substantial amount of her time at Columbia University has been spent trying to convince college administrators, police, and even friends that what happened to her really happened, that it was rape, and that her rapist deserves to be punished for what he did.

Sulkowicz is one of 23 students who are part of a federal Title IX complaint filed against Columbia in April for mishandling sexual-assault cases. Though she and two other students reported that the same student had assaulted them, all of their claims were swept under the rug, and the male student was not expelled from campus.

Video on her Protest/Thesis…

Youtube Video

106 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:17:00pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

You two are a bit older than I, but i swear it’s creeping up to day three.

All y’all are older than I am, but I’m feeling the whole Day 2 pain every time out. Definitely makes life more interesting when I get up in the morning.

107 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:17:10pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

You two are a bit older than I, but i swear it’s creeping up to day three.

Day 3 is usually still stiff. I do a big ride on Sunday and shorter, faster rides on Wednesday and Friday, I can tell you the first 4-8 miles on Wednesday, my legs are usually pretty stiff.

109 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:17:57pm

I haven’t read it all yet….

Border militia confronts bat researchers

A group of heavily armed militiamen confronted a team of scientists who had been studying bats in a cave near Sonoita last week, apparently mistaking them for illegal border-crossers or drug-smugglers.

No one was hurt during the late-night encounter in the Gardner Canyon area, but the incident highlights the potential for trouble when citizens take up arms in hopes of defending the U.S.-Mexico border.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection “does not endorse or support any private group or organization to take border security matters into their own hands as it could have disastrous personal and public safety consequences” the agency said in a statement.

The confrontation near Sonoita began at approximately 11 p.m. on Aug. 23, according to a report given by one of the scientists to a Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s deputy. The team of three researchers had been counting bats in Onyx Cave, and as they began walking back to their campsite near Gardner Canyon Road, they were flashed with a spotlight by a group of men.

The men reportedly began shouting at the scientists in Spanish, and identified themselves as a militia group protecting the U.S.-Mexico border. The scientists identified themselves and continued to walk to their campsite “while seeking cover,” according to the deputy’s report.

When they arrived at their campsite, they were again approached by the militiamen, who pulled up on an ATV while carrying a shotgun and wearing camouflage clothing. This time the militiamen were apologetic, but the reporting scientist told the deputy he still cursed them out and let them know how they had made him and his colleagues feel.

[…]

Pagers welcome, I’m kinda busy.

110 Bulworth  Sep 2, 2014 2:18:25pm

re:
#104

I love the ones with the Don’t Tread On Me flag with the tread marks over them. Gotta get me one of those….

111 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 2:18:47pm

OT - Ugh, this is really awful:

Are the Beauty Standards for Fruits & Vegetables Unfair?

According to a report from the USDA earlier this year, Americans let 25 billion pounds of produce go to waste in 2010. So, why are supermarkets rejecting all this ugly-but-delicious produce?

Appearances Matter
“The only thing a customer can know about a piece of produce bought from a supermarket is what they can see,” explains Leonard Pallara, a farming consultant with Organic Sage Consulting who used to grow vegetables at Upper Meadows Farm in New Jersey. “If they’re really being thoughtful, they may smell it—but most supermarket produce has been refrigerated, which kills the aroma. So the single greatest determinant factor that a person has for picking a piece is appearance.” […]

bonappetit.com

Effing #FirstWorldProblems

Then again, there’s this:

I wish there was a farmer’s market near my place. :-(

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 2:18:56pm

ummmm….no.
Just. No.

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 2:19:31pm

re: #111 CuriousLurker

OT - Ugh, this is really awful:

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I wish there was a farmer’s market near my place. :-(

Good for making sauce or tomato juice.

114 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:21:08pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmm….no.
Just. No.

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FOUR D? How does that work? Aren’t all rollercoasters 4D, in the sense that you’re on them for a period of time?

“I’m not afraid of heights. I’m afraid of widths.” - Steven Wright.

115 Khal Wimpo  Sep 2, 2014 2:21:18pm

re: #16 Franklin

Yeah, I’ve been using LastPass ever since I started working a lot with journos & human rights organizations in former Soviet Bloc countries. Needed something to keep track of the super-long randomized passwords I was using. Yeah, someone could theoretically point John The Ripper at it, but my password there is hella long and I change it quite frequently. But as all my web security friends say, “There is basically no security on the web. Get used to it.”

116 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 2:22:55pm

re: #114 GeneJockey

FOUR D? How does that work? Aren’t all rollercoasters 4D, in the sense that you’re on them for a period of time?

“I’m not afraid of heights. I’m afraid of widths.” - Steven Wright.

It appears that the coaster cars follow the track even upside down.

Nope. Not me. Ever.

117 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:23:13pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmm….no.
Just. No.

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Honestly …looks fun. Minus the straight-up ascent. (Seriously, what are they going to do if they need to get riders off for some reason?)

But I can’t do a straight up-and-down wooden roller coaster. I require flips.

118 Sionainn  Sep 2, 2014 2:23:54pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

I haven’t read it all yet….

Border militia confronts bat researchers

Pagers welcome, I’m kinda busy.

Thankfully, my dad (a bat specialist) doesn’t do field work anymore. I can only imagine what would have happened between his temper and heavily armed militia assholes.

119 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:24:21pm

re: #114 GeneJockey

FOUR D? How does that work? Aren’t all rollercoasters 4D, in the sense that you’re on them for a period of time?

“I’m not afraid of heights. I’m afraid of widths.” - Steven Wright.

That was my thought too. The article didn’t really clarify. Best guess is what B_S said.

Nice music on the video though.

120 Lidane  Sep 2, 2014 2:24:49pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

I haven’t read it all yet….

Border militia confronts bat researchers

Pagers welcome, I’m kinda busy.

It’s a matter of time before these militia dipshits shoot and kill someone.

There’s a reason why the REAL law enforcement agencies on the border don’t want these fake commandos down there.

121 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:27:34pm

re: #117 klys

Honestly …looks fun. Minus the straight-up ascent. (Seriously, what are they going to do if they need to get riders off for some reason?)

But I can’t do a straight up-and-down wooden roller coaster. I require flips.

Rollercoasters and my inner ear do not play well together. I once went on a ride that clamps you into a small space and spins you, while it moves around a long oval that is itself spinning. Between the motion and my claustrophobia, I was properly fucked up for the night.

Didn’t do much to impress my date, I can tell you.

122 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:28:05pm

re: #121 GeneJockey

Rollercoasters and my inner ear do not play well together. I once went on a ride that clamps you into a small space and spins you, while it moves around a long oval that is itself spinning. Between the motion and my claustrophobia, I was properly fucked up for the night.

Didn’t do much to impress my date, I can tell you.

I know exactly the ride you are talking about …and like it a lot.

The husband got kind of queasy though, so we only did it once that night.

123 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 2, 2014 2:28:25pm

Speaking of the cloud… Sooooo full of butts!!!

124 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:28:54pm

re: #117 klys

Honestly …looks fun. Minus the straight-up ascent. (Seriously, what are they going to do if they need to get riders off for some reason?)

But I can’t do a straight up-and-down wooden roller coaster. I require flips.

Ugh. I have problems with heights. Roller coasters scare the living daylights out of me. I have gone on a couple, and the adrenaline is beyond compare, but I do not know if I have the courage to do an encore.

125 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:29:05pm

The Zipper, I think it was called.

126 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 2, 2014 2:29:34pm

Bat counters encounter bat-shit crazy shooters.

127 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:29:50pm

re: #122 klys

I know exactly the ride you are talking about …and like it a lot.

The husband got kind of queasy though, so we only did it once that night.

Care to rephrase that?
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128 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:30:22pm

re: #127 GeneJockey

Care to rephrase that?
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Oh, did I forget to mention we did it at the county fair?

;)

129 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:32:36pm

re: #128 klys

Oh, did I forget to mention we did it at the county fair?

;)

Reminds me of a joke that’s politically incorrect since it hinges on a speech impediment.

130 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:34:21pm
131 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:37:07pm

re: #130 wrenchwench

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Seeing a disturbingly high number of blame-the-victim shaming going on re the iCloud hack.

I suspect it makes some feel better about looking at the pictures.

132 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:37:53pm

re: #130 wrenchwench

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I have no problems with the taking of nude pics. I do have some amount of … not sure what the word to use is here … annoyance, maybe? People who take nude pictures should keep them off-grid. No system is secure and putting pictures on anything that connects to the Internet is asking for trouble. That being said, it is absolutely 100% the hackers’ fault for the hack and the publication, and blaming the victim is absolutely stupid; they did nothing wrong whatsoever. Slut-shaming is just plain not right.

133 Khal Wimpo  Sep 2, 2014 2:37:53pm

Another possibility is that one of the celebs was using his/her device at a cafe, awards show, press conference, etc., and someone there was using WireShark, Ettercap or any one of dozens of packet sniffers to do a man-in-the-middle attack.

From there, if the celeb was a little less than diligent about their passwords (remember, these aren’t always the most brilliant or tech-savvy people), then the haxx0rz would have been able to get into their email. And once you’re in someone’s email inbox, man, it is all over but the crying.

134 Egregious Philbin  Sep 2, 2014 2:38:19pm

re: #111 CuriousLurker

I grow ugly heirloom tomatoes, they are fantastic. Just started a new batch in my hydroponic unit for the fall. Give me the ugly ones, everyone else can have the same old bland, waxy boring ones that are pretty,

135 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:39:40pm

re: #132 thedopefishlives

I have no problems with the taking of nude pics. I do have some amount of … not sure what the word to use is here … annoyance, maybe? People who take nude pictures should keep them off-grid. No system is secure and putting pictures on anything that connects to the Internet is asking for trouble. That being said, it is absolutely 100% the hackers’ fault for the hack and the publication, and blaming the victim is absolutely stupid; they did nothing wrong whatsoever. Slut-shaming is just plain not right.

I saw a tweet calling this event a sex crime. Don’t know whether I’d go that far, but it provided food for thought.

136 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:40:27pm

re: #135 wrenchwench

I saw a tweet calling this event a sex crime. Don’t know whether I’d go that far, but it provided food for thought.

A cyber crime, certainly. Which I feel is something we have been woefully inadequate in catching up to, both in a legal sense and in an enforcement sense.

137 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 2:41:11pm

re: #136 thedopefishlives

A cyber crime, certainly. Which I feel is something we have been woefully inadequate in catching up to, both in a legal sense and in an enforcement sense.

A misogynistic cyber crime.

138 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:42:39pm

re: #137 wrenchwench

A misogynistic cyber crime.

Very much so. You know the hacker stereotype: Horny young males. They knew what they wanted.

139 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:43:09pm

re: #132 thedopefishlives

I have no problems with the taking of nude pics. I do have some amount of … not sure what the word to use is here … annoyance, maybe? People who take nude pictures should keep them off-grid. No system is secure and putting pictures on anything that connects to the Internet is asking for trouble. That being said, it is absolutely 100% the hackers’ fault for the hack and the publication, and blaming the victim is absolutely stupid; they did nothing wrong whatsoever. Slut-shaming is just plain not right.

Taking the picture means that the possibility of it getting out there exists. For anyone. Full stop. Print? Someone could make copies in the darkroom. On a non-connected hard drive? It could be stolen. The only difference here is ease of access.

If it were a guy who had taken pictures of his dong and had them processed at the local print store, which made extra copies and scanned and uploaded them to the Internet, I guarantee the dudebros would be all outraged “personal privacy” on this.

140 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 2:43:59pm

re: #69 Kragar

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I wonder how seriously Ted Cruz’ denomination takes that “sins of the father” stuff?

141 Jolo5309  Sep 2, 2014 2:44:00pm

re: #29 b_sharp

I write all my passwords on my palm.

I do too, it sucks that I have to drive to Regina every time I forget my password though

142 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 2:45:09pm

re: #130 wrenchwench

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It’s much easier to criticize someone when you can put a face on them, or in this case boobies.

143 ausador  Sep 2, 2014 2:46:20pm

re: #119 klys

That was my thought too. The article didn’t really clarify. Best guess is what B_S said.

Nice music on the video though.

Each seat is on gimbals, the seats actually flip over (free spinning) as the car follows the track. Video claims you will be “flipped” at least six times during the ride.

144 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:46:20pm

re: #142 De Kolta Chair

It’s much easier to criticize someone when you can put a face on them, or in this case boobies.

Actually, I’m pretty sure the face doesn’t matter. Just the boobies.

/ only half, sadly.

145 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 2:48:39pm

re: #141 Jolo5309

I do too, it sucks that I have to drive to Regina every time I forget my password though

Facepalm!

146 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:49:38pm

re: #139 klys

Taking the picture means that the possibility of it getting out there exists. For anyone. Full stop. Print? Someone could make copies in the darkroom. On a non-connected hard drive? It could be stolen. The only difference here is ease of access.

If it were a guy who had taken pictures of his dong and had them processed at the local print store, which made extra copies and scanned and uploaded them to the Internet, I guarantee the dudebros would be all outraged “personal privacy” on this.

All of that is true. I just don’t like being lumped into part of “the problem” when people complain about Internet-connected services getting hacked. Hackers and legit programmers are locked in an eternal war, and sometimes the hackers do win. Don’t instinctively blame us whenever sensitive information is stolen.

147 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 2:49:55pm

re: #144 klys

Actually, I’m pretty sure the face doesn’t matter. Just the boobies.

/ only half, sadly.

Boobies can be had for free in all sizes, shapes, colors, and quantities. It’s putting the boobies together with the faces that makes the difference. And as I said, if you can blame the victim, it makes it ‘okay’ to look. You’re not receiving stolen merchandise, you’re helping keep information free.

wishing I were/

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 2, 2014 2:51:43pm

Why is this an issue other than that there are a lot of people obsessed with seeing naked bodies?

149 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:52:05pm

re: #147 GeneJockey

Boobies can be had for free in all sizes, shapes, colors, and quantities. It’s putting the boobies together with the faces that makes the difference. And as I said, if you can blame the victim, it makes it ‘okay’ to look. You’re not receiving stolen merchandise, you’re helping keep information free.

wishing I were/

True, but I was more commenting on the Internet’s willingness to criticize the victim much more if the victim is female.

150 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 2:54:15pm

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why is this an issue other than that there are a lot of people obsessed with seeing naked bodies?

If people ran around naked or partially naked all the time the strong desire to see naked bodies would dribble away.

151 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:56:21pm

re: #146 thedopefishlives

All of that is true. I just don’t like being lumped into part of “the problem” when people complain about Internet-connected services getting hacked. Hackers and legit programmers are locked in an eternal war, and sometimes the hackers do win. Don’t instinctively blame us whenever sensitive information is stolen.

Blame should be on the hackers. Period. I think we can agree on that.

152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 2, 2014 2:56:47pm

re: #150 b_sharp

If people ran around naked or partially naked all the time the strong desire to see naked bodies would dribble away.

Because God would strike us all down for lewdness and sin…

153 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 2:57:34pm

re: #151 klys

Blame should be on the hackers. Period. I think we can agree on that.

110% agreed. And I absolutely did not/will not look at the leaked photos. If I need boobies, I have a Mrs. Fish.

154 klys  Sep 2, 2014 2:59:20pm

re: #153 thedopefishlives

110% agreed. And I absolutely did not/will not look at the leaked photos. If I need boobies, I have a Mrs. Fish.

I have my own and frankly, think very little of the overall concept of them.

Clearly, not a guy.

155 Mattand  Sep 2, 2014 2:59:31pm

re: #16 Franklin

I just started using 1Password on my Mac and iPhone. I like their concept of using a generated password and only keeping it in the 1Password app, not having to remember it.

As long as you have your phone or computer, you can retrieve the password when you need it. And there are browser extensions so anytime you change your password it can be updated in the app.

For too long I’d been using the same password for many of my logins. If one gets cracked, they can all be cracked at the point.

Downside is if someone steals your computer or phone and cracks the password to the app :/

Anyone else using a password app like this?

Late to the game on this one, but big thumbs up on 1Password. I had bought it years ago, but never used it. After the Heartbleed exploit went down a few months back, I got the upgrade and haven’t looked back. Great program.

Thanks also to Charles and a few others here that recommended it.

156 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:02:27pm

re: #149 klys

True, but I was more commenting on the Internet’s willingness to criticize the victim much more if the victim is female.

Oh, yes. Definitely. If this were about dick pics, nobody’d be shaming the guys.

157 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 2, 2014 3:02:47pm

What is this hysteria thing about Z0MG ELEVENTY MISSING AIRLINERS!!!!!!!11!!! that has seized the wingnuts

158 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:04:11pm

re: #154 klys

I have my own and frankly, think very little of the overall concept of them.

Clearly, not a guy.

I feel the same way about the hairy lumpiness and weird outdoor plumbing we XY types come equipped with.

159 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 3:05:39pm

re: #158 GeneJockey

I feel the same way about the hairy lumpiness and weird outdoor plumbing we XY types come equipped with.

At least we aren’t walruses.

160 Mattand  Sep 2, 2014 3:05:48pm

re: #149 klys

True, but I was more commenting on the Internet’s willingness to criticize the victim much more if the victim is female.

Yeah, the whole “Jennifer Lawerence shouldn’t have done it in the first place” has been grinding my gears. Class A victim blaming.

161 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:06:53pm

re: #142 De Kolta Chair

It’s much easier to criticize someone when you can put a face on them, or in this case boobies.

Boobghazigate.

162 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 3:07:13pm

My take is, if you take nude pics and put them on the internet, anywhere, then you know you are taking the risk of those photos ending up somewhere they were not intended to be.

I won’t get to personal but let’s just say a family member thought they were perfectly fine having their pics appear on a small time adult site and said pics ended up in an adult yahoo group I was a member of. I was not too amused and had to explain the internet to this person.

I have absolutely no issue whatsoever with people taking nude pics or even videos of themselves. The human body, in all of it’s different appearances is not something to be ashamed of. People should just be prepared that if they put them ANYWHERE on the internet or on their phone, their computer, or even a CD there is always a possibility of someone else getting ahold of them.

163 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:07:56pm

re: #159 b_sharp

At least we aren’t walruses.

Except for Wilford Brimley.

164 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:08:44pm

re: #163 GeneJockey

Except for Wilford Brimley.

And the uptight Mythbuster.

165 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 3:09:21pm

re: #160 Mattand

Yeah, the whole “Jennifer Lawerence shouldn’t have done it in the first place” has been grinding my gears. Class A victim blaming.

Sad thing is, she has had a history of body image issues. I can’t even imagine how she has to be taking such criticisms. She is very beautiful and I think she has every right to be confident in that.

166 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:10:20pm

re: #164 Decatur Deb

And the uptight Mythbuster.

I actually met Grant and Torey at the gun shop they go to for expertise. They were filming a the counter while I was looking at the used rifles.

167 Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 2, 2014 3:10:36pm

re: #156 GeneJockey

Unless it’s Anthony Weiner.

//

168 klys  Sep 2, 2014 3:11:47pm

re: #167 Flying Squirrel Girl

Unless it’s Anthony Weiner.

//

Honestly, I think the bigger criticism there was that he accidentally sent it out publicly. And tried to pretend that he hadn’t.

169 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:13:10pm

re: #166 GeneJockey

I actually met Grant and Torey at the gun shop they go to for expertise. They were filming a the counter while I was looking at the used rifles.

Hope that was long before they got pink slips.

170 Jolo5309  Sep 2, 2014 3:13:28pm

re: #58 Egregious Philbin

Ya know, if you don’t want the world to see your vulva, don’t take pictures of it and store it where it can be hacked. Seems kinda simple.

You know, whether someone does or not, it doesn’t give anyone else the right to see them.

171 Sionainn  Sep 2, 2014 3:13:50pm

re: #156 GeneJockey

Oh, yes. Definitely. If this were about dick pics, nobody’d be shaming the guys.

Oh, I don’t know. I can imagine me and my female friends coming up with all sorts of snarky comments.

172 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 3:14:44pm

re: #171 Sionainn

Oh, I don’t know. I can imagine me and my female friends coming up with all sorts of snarky comments.

I’m sure we would, but we wouldn’t be slut-shaming them and saying it was their own darn fault or that they shouldn’t have done it (okay, well, there would probably be some remarks about “Nobody wants to see THAT”).

173 Jenner7  Sep 2, 2014 3:16:33pm

re: #162 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I agree. She had an absolute right to take whatever pictures she wants, but that also comes with responsibility. And what the hackers did was absolutely reprehensible.

174 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:17:37pm

re: #165 thedopefishlives

Sad thing is, she has had a history of body image issues. I can’t even imagine how she has to be taking such criticisms. She is very beautiful and I think she has every right to be confident in that.

The human mind is funny, isn’t it? Weird-funny, not haha-funny. Sometimes the people we see as being so nearly perfect as to be almost unreal are painfully aware of their ‘flaws.’

175 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:18:15pm

re: #171 Sionainn

Oh, I don’t know. I can imagine me and my female friends coming up with all sorts of snarky comments.

Like, “It’s something like a man’s penis, only smaller”?
//

176 klys  Sep 2, 2014 3:18:40pm

re: #171 Sionainn

Oh, I don’t know. I can imagine me and my female friends coming up with all sorts of snarky comments.

Idris Elba and the mic wire comes to mind…

177 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 3:19:11pm

re: #100 Lidane

The Texas GOP candidate for governor, y’all —

How Catherine Engelbrecht Got Greg Abbott To Shut Down A Houston Voter Registration Drive

And it’s all just a hop, skip and jump from creepy Ken Blackwell (who knows a thing or two about voter suppression and fraud from his Ohio shenanigans) and the ever-delightful Ginni Thomas and her band of merry miscreants at Groundswell.

One of the influential conservatives guiding the group is Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, a columnist for the Daily Caller and a tea party consultant and lobbyist. Other Groundswell members include John Bolton, the former UN ambassador; Frank Gaffney, the president of the Center for Security Policy; Ken Blackwell and Jerry Boykin of the Family Research Council; Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch; Gayle Trotter, a fellow at the Independent Women’s Forum; Catherine Engelbrecht and Anita MonCrief of True the Vote; Allen West, the former GOP House member; Sue Myrick, also a former House GOPer; Diana Banister of the influential Shirley and Banister PR firm; and Max Pappas, a top aide to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

motherjones.com

178 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:22:48pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Hope that was long before they got pink slips.

It was YEARS ago.

179 Jolo5309  Sep 2, 2014 3:24:05pm

re: #145 b_sharp

Facepalm!

Great, now it is on your face, backwards but there

180 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:26:30pm

re: #177 BeachDem

And it’s all just a hop, skip and jump from creepy Ken Blackwell (who knows a thing or two about voter suppression and fraud from his Ohio shenanigans) and the ever-delightful Ginni Thomas and her band of merry miscreants at Groundswell.

One of the influential conservatives guiding the group is Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, a columnist for the Daily Caller and a tea party consultant and lobbyist. Other Groundswell members include John Bolton, the former UN ambassador; Frank Gaffney, the president of the Center for Security Policy; Ken Blackwell and Jerry Boykin of the Family Research Council; Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch; Gayle Trotter, a fellow at the Independent Women’s Forum; Catherine Engelbrecht and Anita MonCrief of True the Vote; Allen West, the former GOP House member; Sue Myrick, also a former House GOPer; Diana Banister of the influential Shirley and Banister PR firm; and Max Pappas, a top aide to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

motherjones.com

I always wonder how many of these people are fully aware of what they’re doing, and how many actually believe in the ‘Voter Fraud’ hype. It’s transparently obvious that there’s no fraud to speak of in in-person voting, and some of them must know that, and thus that all they’re doing is making it harder for legitimate voters to cast their ballots. But the belief in Voter Fraud runs DEEP in individual wingnuts. I guess I wonder how far down the Right wing heirarchy the corruption runs before it becomes just ignorance and paranoia. Where do the con artists end and the marks begin?

181 Jolo5309  Sep 2, 2014 3:29:41pm

re: #175 GeneJockey

Like, “It’s something like a man’s penis, only smaller”?
//

Or “Is it that cold out?”

182 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 3:30:09pm

re: #181 Jolo5309

Or “Is it that cold out?”

No, he was in the pool.////

183 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:30:41pm

re: #182 thedopefishlives

No, he was in the pool.////

It could happen to anyone!

184 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:31:10pm

re: #180 GeneJockey

I always wonder how many of these people are fully aware of what they’re doing, and how many actually believe in the ‘Voter Fraud’ hype. It’s transparently obvious that there’s no fraud to speak of in in-person voting, and some of them must know that, and thus that all they’re doing is making it harder for legitimate voters to cast their ballots. But the belief in Voter Fraud runs DEEP in individual wingnuts. I guess I wonder how far down the Right wing heirarchy the corruption runs before it becomes just ignorance and paranoia. Where do the con artists end and the marks begin?

Our Alabama law is less onerous than some of the GOP models—it allows student ID, for instance. Still, there is a lot of room for True the Vote and others to misuse it, for instance an out-of-date driver’s license is not ‘valid’ voter ID. I’m recommending two forms of ID on GOTV efforts.

185 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 3:36:37pm

re: #180 GeneJockey

I always wonder how many of these people are fully aware of what they’re doing, and how many actually believe in the ‘Voter Fraud’ hype. It’s transparently obvious that there’s no fraud to speak of in in-person voting, and some of them must know that, and thus that all they’re doing is making it harder for legitimate voters to cast their ballots. But the belief in Voter Fraud runs DEEP in individual wingnuts. I guess I wonder how far down the Right wing heirarchy the corruption runs before it becomes just ignorance and paranoia. Where do the con artists end and the marks begin?

I don’t know about the “wingnut on the street,” but the Ken Blackwells and Catherine Engelbrechts know exactly what they’re doing—and it has nothing to do with uncovering voter fraud—it is all about voter suppression.

You will remember Ken Blackwell as the person who tried to get voter registrations nixed if they were on the wrong paper weight. That was the least of it. Blackwell also intentionally kept the right number of voting machines out of democrat heavy districts, which resulted in some of the longest lines we’ve ever seen in Ohio elections. This action disenfranchised many black voters and caused one of many lawsuits related to elections to be brought against him. In all, Blackwell was involved in over a dozen election related lawsuits.…

True the Vote is a wingnut tea party backed group led by Catherine Engelbrecht. Catherine has been in the news for drumming up bogus “New Black Panther Party” scare tactics and her other group “King Street Patriots” was sued by the Texas Democratic Party for voter intimidation. Not really the folks you want to take advice from on election protection. As Media Matters notes, True the Vote’s National Summit speakers reads like a who’s who of voter fraud charlatans: J. Christian Adams, Hans von Spokovsky, James O’Keefe, and John Fund.

plunderbund.com

186 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 3:41:10pm
Cenk Uygur is Worried That the iCloud Hacker Might Give “All Other Hackers” a Bad Name
Read more at thedailybanter.com

Dudebros Über Alles

187 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:41:46pm

If I get to choose, Ted Cruz will be the next TPGOP nominee. With a dad like this, how can he lose?

Ted Cruz’s Dad: “The Average Black Does Not” Understand The Minimum Wage Is Bad

“And then I said, ‘Did you know that every member of the Ku Klux Klan were Democrats from the South?’ ‘Oh I didn’t know that.’ You know, they need to be educated.”

buzzfeed.com

from Buzzfeed.

188 Charles Johnson  Sep 2, 2014 3:42:24pm
189 retired cynic  Sep 2, 2014 3:42:54pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

No.

190 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 3:44:23pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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Does Malkin have another book coming out?

191 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 3:44:32pm

re: #186 b.d.

Dudebros Über Alles

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You kids stop hacking my lawn!!!

192 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 3:45:40pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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Tailgunner Joe is rightly reviled by history in the same way I hope Cruz and the rest of the dipshits in there now are in years to come. He was not a Cassandra, not somebody who was telling the truth to people who wouldn’t listen. He was a political opportunist and a self-serving asshole who destroyed the lives of others to advance his own.

193 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:45:42pm

If we’re doing the ’50s again, I’m buying IBM stock this time.

194 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:46:11pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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Funny thing about Joe McCarthy - 10 years ago, if you said anything bad about McCarthy, a bright wingnut would say, “tell me the names of anyone he destroyed”, because the REAL action in the blacklisting/career destruction business was in the HUAC, which he wasn’t on, being a Senator. So, the claim was McCarthy didn’t actually do any of the things he gets blamed for.

Fast forward to today, and suddenly McCarthy - who they told us for years did NOTHING of any real note - is a hero. For doing what, exactly?

195 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 3:46:19pm

SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE IN SALEM PROBABLY WERE WITCHES ANYWAYS

196 GeneJockey  Sep 2, 2014 3:46:28pm

Forget it. Can’t do strikethroughs in Dudebro font, apparently

197 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 3:47:37pm

re: #191 De Kolta Chair

You kids stop hacking my lawn!!!

THOSE CRIMINALS ARE GIVING MY CRIMINALS A BAD NAME

198 klys  Sep 2, 2014 3:50:15pm

Maybe someone else has a different read on this comment but my current response is WHAT THE FUCK.

199 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 3:50:39pm
200 thedopefishlives  Sep 2, 2014 3:50:47pm

re: #198 klys

Maybe someone else has a different read on this comment but my current response is WHAT THE FUCK.

Mmm, nope. I think your response sums it up perfectly.

201 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 3:51:33pm

re: #198 klys

Maybe someone else has a different read on this comment but my current response is WHAT THE FUCK.

He’s just doing what he usually does…

202 KiTA  Sep 2, 2014 3:51:40pm

re: #186 b.d.

To be fair, Hacker has never meant “computer criminal.”

203 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 3:51:55pm

Rick Santorum announced today that his production company will be rebooting “The Fantastic Four” franchise. Pictured below is the cast:

204 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 3:53:00pm

Of course, the entire fight to rehabilitate McCarthy comes at a time when the right is seeing terrorists under their beds and trying to see any connection to Islam as “cause for concern.”

205 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 2, 2014 3:54:19pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

If we’re doing the ’50s again, I’m buying IBM stock this time.

I want to get a job at Ken Olsen’s startup in 1957. So I can keep Carly from destroying it in 1998…

206 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 3:56:42pm

9/11 hysteria is here! I suppose it’s starting later than usual so that’s some good news.

207 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 3:57:03pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

If we’re doing the ’50s again, I’m buying IBM stock this time.

One Word: Plastics

208 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 3:57:57pm

re: #206 Gus

9/11 hysteria is here! I suppose it’s starting later than usual so that’s some good news.

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Free bacon is always good news.

209 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 3:58:56pm

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Free bacon is always good news.

You had me at “free bacon.”

210 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 3:59:02pm

re: #202 KiTA

To be fair, Hacker has never meant “computer criminal.”

That’s one thing that gets me. Hackers do not equal computer criminals. Even the definition of a hacker excludes criminality. We used to call the criminal ones “Crackers” (and not the racist version). They were also known as black hats.

If you’ve ever tweaked windows or another OS and changed the way it functions (using programs or your own knowledge) you are a hacker. If you unlock your cellphone, either on your own or with help, you have hacked your phone. It does NOT make you a criminal. Criminal is when you go in with malicious intent to either hijack a system, steal information, or plant viruses/trojans etc.

211 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:01:59pm

No but seriously. They’re freaking out. Not just the TCOT peeps but the classical liberals. :D

212 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 4:02:57pm

Rand Paul goes from isolationist to hawk in a week

Honestly I think ISIS needs to be destroyed but the compete lack of coherence Paul shows is almost worthy of The Onion, if it wasn’t for the fact he’s serious.

213 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 4:04:40pm

re: #212 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Rand Paul goes from isolationist to hawk in a week

Honestly I think ISIS needs to be destroyed but the compete lack of coherence Paul shows is almost worthy of The Onion, if it wasn’t for the fact he’s serious.

Paul is trying to be everything to everyone, in preparation for next year. His party’s base, despite sometimes dabbling in isolationism, are warmongers at heart. And so, he’s gotta be willing to say “Yeah, I’d go to war,” else they won’t take him seriously.

214 ObserverArt  Sep 2, 2014 4:04:45pm

re: #212 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Rand Paul goes from isolationist to hawk in a week

Honestly I think ISIS needs to be destroyed but the compete lack of coherence Paul shows is almost worthy of The Onion, if it wasn’t for the fact he’s serious.

I’m thinking Rand Paul is a shapeshifter.

215 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 2, 2014 4:05:17pm

re: #198 klys

Maybe someone else has a different read on this comment but my current response is WHAT THE FUCK.

NOPE. JUST NOPE.

216 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:05:37pm
217 klys  Sep 2, 2014 4:05:46pm

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

NOPE. JUST NOPE.
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Thank you for the octopus win. I needed that.

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 2, 2014 4:05:51pm

re: #212 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Rand Paul goes from isolationist to hawk in a week

Honestly I think ISIS needs to be destroyed but the compete lack of coherence Paul shows is almost worthy of The Onion, if it wasn’t for the fact he’s serious.

It really depends on which room he’s talking to.

219 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 2, 2014 4:06:42pm

re: #212 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Rand Paul goes from isolationist to hawk in a week

Honestly I think ISIS needs to be destroyed but the compete lack of coherence Paul shows is almost worthy of The Onion, if it wasn’t for the fact he’s serious.

Must have gotten new poll numbers …

220 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 2, 2014 4:06:52pm

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

Cthulu was kinda cute as a baby.

221 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 4:07:27pm

re: #219 William Barnett-Lewis

Must have gotten new poll numbers …

“Obama doesn’t want to go to war? Hot damn, I found a new talking point!”

222 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:09:20pm

re: #215 Pie-onist Overlord

From _RememberTonyC’s comment:

Ultimately defeating the likes of ISIS, hezbollah, hamas, al qaeda, boko haram, al shabaab, and the rulers of iran is civilization’s only hope to survive and thrive.

We’ll be behind you all the way, _RememberTonyC! ////

Which reminds me, whatever happened to John McCain’s promise to follow bin Laden to the gates of hell?

223 klys  Sep 2, 2014 4:10:38pm

re: #222 De Kolta Chair

We’ll be behind you all the way, _RememberTonyC! ////

Just a note, you might edit the comment to make it clear it’s not VB saying that but _RememberTonyC.

224 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:14:08pm

Free Bacon. Picked up by Drudge. They’re peeing in their pants over this.

225 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:15:03pm

re: #206 Gus

9/11 hysteria is here! I suppose it’s starting later than usual so that’s some good news.

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THE TERRORISTS ARE GOING TO ATTACK US ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF OUR BIGGEST FAILURE, BENGHAZI.

226 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 4:17:16pm
227 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 4:17:34pm

It is still Tuesday, right?

228 klys  Sep 2, 2014 4:17:54pm

re: #227 wrenchwench

It is still Tuesday, right?

Yes.

Not that this really helps much.

229 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:18:11pm

re: #225 b.d.

THE TERRORISTS ARE GOING TO ATTACK US ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF OUR BIGGEST FAILURE, BENGHAZI.

She’s on it!

230 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:18:15pm

re: #223 klys

Just a note, you might edit the comment to make it clear it’s not VB saying that but _RememberTonyC.

Good point, klys, and done.

231 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 4:19:33pm

re: #229 Gus

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She’s on it!

Oh god, not Sharyl…

232 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:20:09pm

re: #229 Gus

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She’s on it!

It’ going to be a long 9 days.

233 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:20:40pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

Oh god, not Sharyl…

Somebody needs to hire her so they can fire her again.

234 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:21:24pm

re: #232 b.d.

It’ going to be a long 9 days.

235 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 4:22:09pm

re: #229 Gus

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She’s on it!

Ah, I see all the loons have come out to play…

Youtube Video

236 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:23:34pm

re: #234 Gus

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I’m gonna need more duct tape.

237 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 4:23:53pm

re: #198 klys

Maybe someone else has a different read on this comment but my current response is WHAT THE FUCK.

Heeeere we go again. *sigh*

238 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:24:08pm

re: #236 b.d.

I’m gonna need more duct tape.

Duct tape and plastic to cover the windows in case of a dirty bomb attack?

239 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:24:56pm

re: #234 Gus

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Will De Blasio be at the 9-11 memorial or will he hanging out with Fidel in Havana??!!1!!

240 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:26:55pm

re: #238 Gus

Duct tape and plastic to cover the windows in case of a dirty bomb attack?

Should I plant some of my heirloom seeds now? Will the roots grow around all of my buried gold coins?

241 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 4:29:35pm

re: #229 Gus

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She’s on it!

Well, this time they’d have to train someone how to take off. Might be a while.

242 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:29:39pm
243 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:29:41pm

re: #234 Gus

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Wake me up when September ends - Green Day

244 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:31:49pm

Note to self: Write novel called “Rand Paul & The Chamber of Secrets.”

245 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:32:22pm

re: #241 Decatur Deb

Well, this time they’d have to train someone how to take off. Might be a while.

Algerian reports of jihadist attack threat using commercial aircraft stolen from Libya unlikely to be credible
IHS Jane’s Intelligence Review
11 August 2014

EVENT

A Moroccan press report indicated on 13 August that Morocco’s air force was on high alert following the theft of several aircraft in Libya that could be used within the region for jihadist attacks in the style of the September 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States.

[…]

FORECAST

All this means that the threat of an 11 September 2001-style attack is probably not credible. However, the reports of Algerian and Moroccan military alerts and air defence battery deployments do signal an increased risk of shootdown of unidentified aircraft that have come from Libyan airspace.

246 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 4:33:44pm

re: #244 De Kolta Chair

Note to self: Write novel called “Rand Paul & The Chamber of Secrets.”

Name one of the characters ‘Aqua Buddha’.

247 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 4:34:33pm

re: #246 wrenchwench

Name one of the characters ‘Aqua Buddha’.

It’ll need a witch: “Ayn”.

248 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 4:35:45pm

re: #247 Decatur Deb

It’ll need a witch: “Ayn”.

And a magical king: Ron.

249 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 4:37:03pm

re: #198 klys

Maybe someone else has a different read on this comment but my current response is WHAT THE FUCK.

have any republican pollyticians called for a ground invasion yet?

250 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 4:37:50pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

And a magical king: Ron.

Some dumb but lovable villager/victims: “TeePees”.

251 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 4:40:53pm

ground invasion: see ground round

252 Kragar  Sep 2, 2014 4:45:04pm

re: #247 Decatur Deb

It’ll need a witch: “Ayn”.

The Magical Talking Fox who serves as the Town Crier and keeps passing bad information

253 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:45:49pm

Yeesh.

254 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 4:46:10pm

re: #234 Gus

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THIS—1000x this. Every. Freaking. Year. Like clockwork.

BOO!

255 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 4:46:31pm

re: #252 Kragar

The Magical Talking Fox who serves as the Town Crier and keeps passing bad information

And an armed sorceress who lays waste to all their plans: The Grimes.

256 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 4:47:04pm

ZOMG!!! IT’S ALMOST 9/11!!! WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!

257 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:47:51pm

re: #254 CuriousLurker

THIS—1000x this. Every. Freaking. Year. Like clockwork.

BOO!

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Wingnut Halloween, without the candy.

258 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:48:05pm

re: #254 CuriousLurker

THIS—1000x this. Every. Freaking. Year. Like clockwork.

BOO!

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ARABS ON A PLANE! DRY RUN!

259 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:48:48pm

Everything was a “dry run” back then. Gah. Even some Sikh in a Turban that the idiots thought were Arabs.

260 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 4:49:29pm

re: #254 CuriousLurker

Try to remember the kind of September
When life was slow and oh, so mellow.
Try to remember the kind of September
When grass was green and grain was yellow…

261 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 4:49:48pm

re: #259 Gus

Everything was a “dry run” back then. Gah. Even some Sikh in a Turban that the idiots thought were Arabs.

“Who let these mutherfukn Sikhs on this mutherfukn plane?”

263 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:50:31pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

“Who let these mutherfukn Sikhs on this mutherfukn plane?”
— Sam Harris

FTFY

//

264 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:51:36pm

re: #256 Targetpractice

ZOMG!!! IT’S ALMOST 9/11!!! WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!

Or as the antisemites say, ZOG!!! IT’S ALMOST 9/11!!! WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE, EXCEPT FOR ZOG!!!!

265 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 4:52:16pm

Saudi Arabian religious police beat man for using ATM meant only for women …

New York Daily News - 𠃢 hours ago‎

A British man was reportedly beaten by Saudi Arabia’s religious police after using a women-only ATM with his wife at a supermarket.

266 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 4:53:19pm

re: #260 BeachDem

Can we go back to 1978, please? Before the Iranian Revolution, AQ, ISIS, etc.? Back to when September meant this:

Youtube Video

267 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:54:21pm

re: #265 dog philosopher

Saudi Arabian religious police beat man for using ATM meant only for women …

New York Daily News - �� hours ago‎

A British man was reportedly beaten by Saudi Arabia’s religious police after using a women-only ATM with his wife at a supermarket.

268 dog philosopher  Sep 2, 2014 4:54:41pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Can we go back to 1978, please? Before the Iranian Revolution, AQ, ISIS, etc.? Back to when September meant this:

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you wouldn’t like it

cell phone reception very bad

269 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 4:56:01pm

re: #268 dog philosopher

you wouldn’t like it

cell phone service very bad

Yet somehow we managed to enjoy life anyway.

270 Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2014 4:57:37pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Can we go back to 1978, please? Before the Iranian Revolution, AQ, ISIS, etc.? Back to when September meant this:

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Video

I do love that song. Ty.

Good evening LGF.

271 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 4:58:05pm

Tony’s going to finally lose it any day now. Trying to avoid those threads. Promised myself about 2 years ago. Not going there again. Tired of that post 9/11 bullshit and I’m not exactly a dove.

272 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 4:58:59pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Can we go back to 1978, please? Before the Iranian Revolution, AQ, ISIS, etc.? Back to when September meant this:

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Bet it all on Alydar!!!

273 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 4:59:23pm

re: #260 BeachDem

Try to remember the kind of September
When life was slow and oh, so mellow.
Try to remember the kind of September
When grass was green and grain was yellow…

One of Lenny Briscoe’s greatest hits.

274 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 4:59:25pm

Don’t try this at home, kids:

1) Open freezer door
2) Fill drinking glass with ice
3) Accidentally drop ice cube
4) Bend over to pick up ice cube
5) Straighten up and hit head on open freezer door
6) Ouch!

275 Mattand  Sep 2, 2014 4:59:57pm

re: #274 De Kolta Chair

Don’t try this at home:

1) Open freezer door
2) Fill drinking glass with ice
3) Accidentally drop ice cube
4) Bend over to pick up ice cube
5) Straighten up and hit head on open freezer door
6) Ouch!

Too late.

276 Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2014 5:00:05pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Can we go back to 1978, please? Before the Iranian Revolution, AQ, ISIS, etc.? Back to when September meant this:

[Embedded content]

Video

Ha, they just used mirrors back then. Now they hire 80 dancers.

277 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 5:01:48pm

Woohoo. 5 minutes before I close for a week and I sold a bike for $300 that I bought for $80!

278 Decatur Deb  Sep 2, 2014 5:02:10pm

Off to phone a bunch of strangers about their civic duty—BBL.

279 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 5:03:43pm
280 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 5:04:52pm

re: #271 Gus

Tony’s going to finally lose it any day now. Trying to avoid those threads. Promised myself about 2 years ago. Not going there again. Tired of that post 9/11 bullshit and I’m not exactly a dove.

I think I’m gonna go leave my Three-Dog-Night-Shambhala-hippies-in-India YouTube video over there because…., well, just because I can…

281 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 5:06:27pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Fine by me!

282 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 5:07:36pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

Woohoo. 5 minutes before I close for a week and I sold a bike for $300 that I bought for $80!

That was also just because I can. //

283 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 5:07:59pm

re: #280 CuriousLurker

I think I’m gonna go leave my Three-Dog-Night-Shambhala-hippies-in-India YouTube video over there because…., well, just because I can…

My Three Dog Night album was stolen.

284 Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2014 5:08:01pm

Well, in my part of this life work was especially brutal today. I guess that’s the result of the grind when you are fast approaching grind saturation.

285 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 5:08:12pm

re: #260 BeachDem

Try to remember the kind of September
When life was slow and oh, so mellow.
Try to remember the kind of September
When grass was green and grain was yellow…

The late Jerry Orbach, who originated the song in “The Fantasticks”

Youtube Video

Damn, I told myself I wouldn’t cry.

286 Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2014 5:08:26pm

Back in the day, we were told that if we allowed our lives to change in response to terrorism, then “the terrorists win.” Yet the same people who used to live by that creed now spend every day until Sept 11th living in absolute fear of another attack.

287 wrenchwench  Sep 2, 2014 5:09:35pm

re: #282 CuriousLurker

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That was also just because I can. //

It captures my feelings about it perfectly!

288 ausador  Sep 2, 2014 5:11:16pm
289 Single-handed sailor  Sep 2, 2014 5:11:32pm

re: #283 b_sharp

My Three Dog Night album was stolen.

Mine was on 8-track.

290 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 5:12:40pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

One of Lenny Briscoe’s greatest hits.

Heh—I’d forgotten that Jerry was the original El Gallo.

Wow—The show’s original off-Broadway production ran a total of 42 years and 17,162 performances (No, Jer was not in all of those //)

291 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 2, 2014 5:12:43pm

WTF
Why, why why are stupid wingnuts promoting this stupid shit? What do they think it gets them? Slave labor?

292 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 5:13:16pm

re: #283 b_sharp

My Three Dog Night album was stolen.

My dog ate mine. /

293 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 5:15:31pm

re: #280 CuriousLurker

I think I’m gonna go leave my Three-Dog-Night-Shambhala-hippies-in-India YouTube video over there because…., well, just because I can…

But Mama told you not to come…

294 Egregious Philbin  Sep 2, 2014 5:16:08pm

re: #289 Single-handed sailor

Quadraphonic reel to reel here. (insert arrogant audiophile sniffing)

295 PhillyPretzel  Sep 2, 2014 5:17:26pm

re: #285 De Kolta Chair

Thanks. That was one of my late mom’s favorites. :)

296 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 2, 2014 5:17:56pm

Somebody stole the my nude selfies off the cloud. They sent them back the next day with a request to NEVER do that that.

RBS

297 Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2014 5:18:51pm

re: #291 Pie-onist Overlord

WTF
Why, why why are stupid wingnuts promoting this stupid shit? What do they think it gets them? Slave labor?

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We are having a fight here in San Diego. City council approved, mayor vetoed. Now attempt to put it on the ballot. If they get enough sigs against raising it any change postponed till summer 2016. 16!

Want to look into the eyes of those against raising the minimum wage.

298 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 5:19:15pm

re: #285 De Kolta Chair

The late Jerry Orbach, who originated the song in “The Fantasticks”

[Embedded content]

Video

Ahhhhhhh—nice.

299 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 5:19:21pm

re: #289 Single-handed sailor

Mine was on 8-track.

I had ~25 albums stolen in 1973.

300 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 5:19:42pm

re: #288 ausador

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301 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 5:21:07pm

re: #287 wrenchwench

It captures my feelings about it perfectly!

Heh, the web is such a bottomless source of awful graphics.

Speaking of, I found a very, very weird one that’s gonna send send y’all running for the brain bleach & give you nightmares (as soon as I find a reason to post it).

302 Stanley Sea  Sep 2, 2014 5:22:08pm

re: #301 CuriousLurker

Heh, the web is such a bottomless source of awful graphics.

Speaking of, I found a very, very weird one that’s gonna send send y’all running for the brain bleach & give you nightmares (as soon as I find a reason to post it).

Excited

303 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 5:22:23pm

re: #293 BeachDem

But Mama told you not to come…

That one is the unofficial LGF hatchling song. LOL

Youtube Video

304 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 5:22:50pm

re: #299 b_sharp

I had ~25 albums stolen in 1973.

Bummer.

305 b.d.  Sep 2, 2014 5:23:24pm

re: #300 Gus

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*Snort*

306 De Kolta Chair  Sep 2, 2014 5:24:44pm

re: #300 Gus

[Embedded content]

From the comments:

What took the Republicans so long? Boehner was stonewalling for the President

307 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 5:25:06pm

re: #305 b.d.

*Snort*

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They’re still going to have more hearings though. Next year he’ll start again.

308 Mentis Fugit  Sep 2, 2014 5:25:06pm

What is it about September?
Youtube Video
Raise your hand if you recognise that synth lead; Kiwis represent!

309 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 5:25:20pm

re: #304 CuriousLurker

Bummer.

If you can’t tell, I’m still annoyed.
I know who did it too. Unfortunately he’s now in a vegetative state.

310 b_sharp  Sep 2, 2014 5:27:31pm

re: #303 CuriousLurker

That one is the unofficial LGF hatchling song. LOL

[Embedded content]

Video

So that’s what they really sounded like.

They sound a bit different when I’m not stoned.

311 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 5:29:35pm

Sources for “missing Libyan airliners.”

• The Blaze
• Washington Free Beacon
• Fox News
• PJ Media
• People’s Pundit Daily
• Newsmax
• World Net Daily
• Western Journalism

I rest my case.

312 Gus  Sep 2, 2014 5:35:20pm
313 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 5:37:37pm

re: #303 CuriousLurker

That one is the unofficial LGF hatchling song. LOL

[Embedded content]

Video

I did not know that. I only knew that Eli was coming and that Jeremiah was a bullfrog. (I could do this ALL day long!)

314 CuriousLurker  Sep 2, 2014 5:40:49pm

re: #313 BeachDem

I did not know that. I only knew that Eli was coming and that Jeremiah was a bullfrog. (I could do this ALL day long!)

Oh gawd, my little brother was crazy for that song. he used to play his little air guitar and belt out the lyrics over & over…

315 BeachDem  Sep 2, 2014 5:41:01pm

re: #309 b_sharp

If you can’t tell, I’m still annoyed.
I know who did it too. Unfortunately he’s now in a vegetative state.

I still remember who stole records from my apartment in 1968. There are some things you never get over.

316 TedStriker  Sep 2, 2014 5:53:03pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I’ve been using 1Password for years — I highly recommend it.

LastPass here.

317 makeitstop  Sep 2, 2014 6:07:24pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s just doing what he usually does…

I have to say, though - never in my life have I seen so many conservative ‘tough guys’ pissing their pants in abject fear of a band of terrorists who are literally half a world away.

Their news sources have got them scared out of their minds, and most of them actually seem to enjoy setting their own hair on fire and freaking out about it.

I really do not get it.

318 Who_is_Jon_Snow?  Sep 3, 2014 1:59:45am

re: #99 wrenchwench

Nooooooooooo!

But they do have a lot of art on display. Don’t know whether I’ll venture out of the ‘C’ gate area though.

ThisDIA concourse C is my favorite art installation. Look up when you get off the train, or look down when you get on the concourse.

319 Swift2991  Sep 3, 2014 2:36:09pm

re: #12 Dr. Matt

In Steve Doocy’s case, there is no reason for a selfie. There is, as far as I can tell, no “self” present.

320 Jay in Oregon  Sep 3, 2014 5:19:46pm

One of my Snowflake friends actually suggested that the NSA, which apparently knows everything on the internet in real time, should know who is behind the leaks. He was stymied as to why they hadn’t been caught yet.

The notion that the NSA doesn’t actually have those capabilities has not occurred to him yet…


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